#6601 - Literally the first RDA fanart image I found editionPrevious: >>540888439>SimulatorsAutomated:●EDOPro (PC/Android): https://projectignis.github.io/download.html●Master Duel (Multi-plat): https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449850Manual:●Duelingbook (online): https://www.duelingbook.comTag: “/dng/” Password: “vidya”; on EDOPro, specify server.Genesys Duels: MR5, TCG, Custom Rules: No Links/Pend/EMZ/Pend Zones>LinksRulebook: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/Wiki: https://yugipedia.comProbability Calculator: https://yugioh.fyiStock Market: https://yugiohprices.comDatabase: https://www.db.yugioh-card.comMisc Info: https://www.formatlibrary.comBlog:https://yugiohblog.konami.com/Alt Format:https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/genesys/>BanlistsTCG: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/list_2025-09-15/ (Sep 15/Next List: TBA)OCG: https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=2341 (Oct 1/Next List: Jan 1)>DecklistsOCG: https://roadoftheking.com https://tonamel.com/competitions?game=yugioh_ocgTCG: https://ygoprodeck.com/category/decks/tournament-meta-decks>NewsJP: https://yugioh-starlight.comEN: https://ygorganization.com>Upcoming SetsOCG:●Burst Protocol (Oct 25)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 25)●Terminal World 3 (Nov 22)●DUELIST BOX -Prismatic Summon- (Dec 20)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - Charmer (Jan 24)●Blazing Dominion (Jan 24)TCG:●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 24)●Legendary 5Ds Deck (Nov 7)●Phantom Revenge (Dec 4)●Burst Protocol (Jan 23)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - Spirit Charmers (Jan 23)>Events●/dng/ Friday Night Tourney 3 (No Side) (Oct 4, 1900 UTC): https://challonge.com/dngfnt3● /dng/ Genesys Tourney 1 (Oct 5, 1900 UTC):https://challonge.com/dnggenesys1●/dng/ League S1 (Week 5, Sep 29-Oct 6):https://challonge.com/dngleagueseason1
MtG player reacts to Pendulumshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvrUYAIw61cMtG player reacts to Linkshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9oZDn5cadgHearthstone player reacts to Pendulumshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od2ly60WIncHearthstone player reacts to Linkshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp--O9S2zRo
>>540944332>using two people whose income is dependent on pretending to be retarded as an example
>>540944332CIMOOOOOOO
>>540944249Make next thread a myutant one
So how long till Diapercord starts falseflagging as Son again?
>>540944624
is necroquip princess required for wave high king now that lacrima is back to 1?
>>540944723When that card resolveson the chain, not on activation.
>>540944842*resolves on
Wacip macchia is the hottest girl
Hosting Genesys EU Casual
Does /dng/ not understand negating on resolution? After Ryzeal format of all things? You negate after the chain has resolved and before priority passes back.
>>540945079I first heard about it years ago when people were talking about The Fabled Unicore negating Super Poly, and first experienced it firsthand when I was playing the Mermail loaner in a Master Duel event relatively recently.
Can anyone post a really fun deck for the YuGiOh game “Legacy of the Duelist: Link Evolution” that I can learn there and would be good in genesys? I can figure out what packs and such it all comes from in game, so just a list is fine. I think it cuts off at Duel Overload, which was a 2020 set.
Seeing the one mentally ill autist cry about genesys in every thread talking about "genesyssies" and whatever fills me with infinite sadistic glee, because it's so blatantly obvious that he's legitimately scared and anxious about his linktranny format being replaced after he invested his entire youth and pathetic life into it
>>540943549I don’t think of Dogmatika and Branded in that way.Branded is a weird mess and it seems like Dogmatika is fusing up with it.
>>540945063Still hosting.
/dng/ LEAGUE ROUND 5JOIN:https://challonge.com/dngleagueseason1Here's how this works:>4 month long tournament, spanning from the 7th of September to the 18th of January (20 rounds), with the Top 4 Finals taking place on the 25th of January>new participants can join the tournament at any point in time, just sign up on the tournament page>a single round will be held each week>BO3 matches and we're using a very basic leaderboard system, match wins and byes net you 2 points, match losses net you 1 point and no shows give you nothing>2 no shows in a row will result in a disqualification>matchups will be randomized each week, as allowing new players to join all the time messes with any automated round systems>The randomized matchups will be announced in the thread each Monday and the matchups can agree on the time and date of the duel during that week>you are allowed to change decks between rounds>we will be using the most recent TCG banlist and the PRERELEASE card pool>300 second turn timers, no reason for a time limit on rounds as it's only 1 round per week>report scores via DMsCHALLONGE DMs ARE BACK ONLINEThis means we no longer need to rely on the Discord server, but I'm still keeping it around just in case. Here's the link if anyone new joins:https://discord.gg/CM8tYGxS3ARULE CHANGE REMINDER:You can do Genesys (or any other format of dueling) instead of Advanced TCG if both players can agree on the terms. The Top 4 finals in January will still be Advanced TCG only, however.ROUND 5 MATCHUPS:>Unplayer vs Getter [COMPLETED]>Da vs Velleity>Rem vs Porker>SGoblin vs Lacooda>Maelstrom vs Commonwheat [COMPLETED]>Nyx vs Lynex
>>540947005Vellkeks care to explain?
>>540947005Weren't Vell and common our strongest duelists?
>>540947290They joined late (last week)
GG, Louay.
gg platypus, classic yugioh™ game, all engine goind second and no starters going first.Onomat is kinda busted in genesys
>>540947578Consistenly getting a 10-card endboard is ridiculous.Yeah, I think a whole bunch of decks are gonna get hits in the next list.
I'm more looking forward to unhits than hits.Alot of decks are nerfed enough by killing links, slapping them with point costs on top just makes them not worth playing at all
>>540948128Best DMG clone
free my nigga
>the first few days of wild west bullshit while everyone was playing random shit is over>now any deck I make I have to ask myself "can this beat onomat"fun while it lasted
>>540948430Alternatively: "can my deck run Droll/Nib/Fuwalos and still have cap left"
It looks like the deck that'll always win is whichever can combo while dodging gy rape handtraps since they're all cheap/free.
>>540948735if droll, nib and fuwa are that much of a problem, just play a deck that ignores them (raughs)
>>540948430in /dng/ tournaments people usually not run the top meta pick because they'll get shit on if they lose
>>540948206Is Nightmare apprentice
>>540946965BEES are completely unhit in Genesys, btw.
>>540948951>if they losewhen they lose*
/dng/ Genesys (no meta) No Meta Cup when
>>540947910A lot of 40 point cards should at least just be 34 point cards if they didn't want players running 3 of them.
>>540949042Half your extra is links your deck can't function without.
What are some good handtraps for use for Shark decks in genesys format? I currently have fuwa and veiler in my main deck. Any suggestions?
Genesys literally makes no sense.>we will balance cards by changing points frequently!They could literally do the same thing with the Forbidden/Limited lists already, but they don't.Block Dragon? Banned. Genesys? 33 points.Instant Fusion? A limited. 100 points.One for one? Another limited? A generic consistency searcher/extender? 81 points?Um... why aren't they just fucking updating the normal list?
>>540948430There's a chance they'll hit decks after the next official tournaments.
>>540949245Dunno specifically for Sharks, but D.D. Crow and Skull Meister are both 0 points.
>>540949245Purulia, WATER level 4.
>>540949270One for one is only hit because of scientist.
>>540949245Hinestly better off using the blowout handtraps like Fuwalos and Nibiru for now and filling the remaining slots with board breakers, which are a lot better than shit like Crow
>>540949270Because the normal Advanced format is meant for selling new packs and decks. Can't hit something that's still new so soon.
>>540949417scientist is at 95 points
>>540949389>>540949412>>540949464Ok thanks bros. I’ll take these into consideration.
>>540949270I was typing it but then it got posted but yeah this is the answer: >>540949517From now on advanced is the paypig consoomer format and genesys is the actual game
>>540949270Because with points system you can hit combos instead of individual cards. These 2 cards are doing something toxic together? Make it so they add up to more than 100 pts together, but you can still run each individually if you want them for something else.Ignoring the obvious reason like making events with different points totals 0-50-100-500 etc where each would have their own "meta"
so, do i pretty much have to dedicate my entire extra deck to simultaneous equation cannon if i want to run it? i've got like, 4 monsters in my extra deck that aren't fusions/xyz that i have no intention of summoning and are only there for the cannon, but it almost feels like even that's too much.
>>540949752>Ygo players transitioned into genesissies.
>>540949752Genesys is the attendance padding format, so expect them to prioritize whatever brings in more players. That won't necessarily be better or worse for the format's balance, but we'll just have to see how KoA handles it.
>>540949902Equation cannon is a card you run if the meta is right for it and then you prepare fodder for the exact board states you plan to activate it for, it's not really a card you just run for fun.
>>540949924You tried pushing "genesissie" shit all week and it didn't work. Genesys keeps getting traction.Give up.
>>540949517and unhits? Why is Konami TCG so deathly afraid of Wind-Up 2 card combo handloops and 3 card Infernity Launcher setups in 2025? Both of which kneel to a single low impact handtrap
>>540950028I like genesys and genesissy just sounds funny.
>>540950041Because they personally hate them.
>>540949042Bugs are totally unplayable without links looping resonance
>TCG originals will from now on be stealth genesys support
>>540950374>Contact fusion archetype where the fusions are literally links but purple
Broken
>>540949782name a 2-card 100 point combo you faglordyou can already hit consistency in forbidden list by just semi-limiting multiple cardsyou can make decks have worse recursion by limiting cardsyou can make decks weaker and having worse end-boards by banning cards, or banning key combo cards if necessary if all else fails>500don't kid yourselfno one will make decks for anything besides 100 points
>>540950374not counting the last two (Mitsu, one of the best decks ever made; and R.B. a total trash deck but its all Link based) you could say most TCG decks from the two-archetypes a year system are made for it. It helps that the last 5 mainsets besides some of DUAD have been trash.
Genesyssies don't deserve my spit.
>>540950023i needed something to fill out my extra deck for a genesys deck since almost everything i was running in the advanced version of my deck was either too expensive, only in there to go along with a card that was too expensive, or a link monster. i can't afford super poly, so do i just run ultimate slayer? i'm not sure what else i really could. the rank 1 pool makes for a pretty lousy toolbox for the most part.
>another ygo general on the wayLol lmao
Genestacies deserve my love.
>>540950725lol no.
>>540950725You wouldn't make a general for HAT or Edison or the custom list tourneys here, retard.
>>540949270because it stops certain combinations in deck building which banned, limited and semi limited do not
>>540950928None of those are official
there isn't going to be a genesys general because the only person who wants a genesys general is the fag whining about genesyssies.
Greetings, /dng/. I am the eternal dragon, Shenron and I can grant you any wish for Blazing Dominion. State your wish.
>>540951246Raidraptor cheat Xyz can be summoned by overlaying any Raidraptor Xyz
>>540951246RDA synchro that summons all tuners from and gy
>>540951246More Arcana Force support to offset the 100 point ZA WARUDO
>>540951246is this the Shenron modified to grant 3 wishes?!RDA as the coverLabrynth supportA Zexal-era game original getting support (Prophecy, Geargia, Wind-Up)
Should I bother trying out witchcrafter magistus now or wait until more manga cards release
>>540950725BASED
>>540951398*From hand and gy*
>>540951246Make myutants a t0 deck
>>540950997ban the wincon>????????????????woah!or are you going to cry over royal magical library at 3, but it's 100 points in genesys?
>>540951246Metalfoes broken starter, searcher, and broken boss monster
>>540951660It's not banworthy
>>540950587Morphotronic Telephone, Ronintoadin and Substitoad, Barrage and Ratpier and basically Zoodiac in general, Bahamut Shark and Toadally Awesome being exactly 101 points lol. Probably a lot of other examples but it's also for future proofing, so when something happens they can quickly make a combination of cards illegal without banning them individually.
>>540951828Ronin and Substi are both 60 points you retardToad is 20Swapfrog is 33kill yourself retard, this is WORSE than the ban list and does nothing>Bahamut and Toadnone of these even deserve to be hit in a proper banlistthe real criminals are spright niggersbanning Bahamut hurts sharks, Toad hurts Paleofrogbut people who don't play the game don't give a fuck
>>540951496we run this shit
>the gimmick of the format is you can use all cards>but no one can use the cards effectively because lmao point-totalswhy?
>>540946119Please bros
>>540952175They want all the casuals to pog at pog.
>>540949270Because despise what everyone say, KoJ is total control of TCGThat also mean banlist too
>>540952176Idk just play an xyz deck. Surely LoD has onomat or satellars
>>540952175Unlimited exists already
>>540952043Yes that's why you can't play the toads together in a 100 pts format but you can run the individual cards in other decks, retard.>-S-Shark and Toadally d-doesn't count kys. That's exactly why the poibts system is better. You can't play both together but Sharks can still run Bahamut Shark and stuff like Paleo can still run Toadally. That's the whole point of not just banning one and keeping the other legal. They did that in advanced to hit Mermail and guess what Sharks were killed in the crossfire.
>>540950725>>540950928>>540951496Just change it into /ygoalt/ -alternative format yugioh
>>540952390>sharks waste 81 fucking points to...to do what?
>>540952043>frog subhuman seethingbased konami shitting on that deck
genesys belongs here
>>540951246The last Goblin Biker still doesn't have a card. Make it good please.
genesyssies belong in the dirt
>>540952043lmao get fucked frognigger
frogs entire legacy is being a shitty ftk deckthey deserved to be hit harder
>>540953184it's that and having the most cancerous omninegate ever printed
>>540952721to make LeVirtue Dragon that they otherwise can't make, search the trap, their best interruption, and then go into XYZ Armor package, which is basically half their endboard? Have you played the deck before?
>>540951408It amazes me they still haven't finished printing the anime Arcana Force cards
>>540950374Inb4 KoA's incompetent ass designs a card for Genesys and it flops and fails there, but that card accidentally ends up breaking Advanced format.
>>540952307but are they simple and fun
>>540951246Save the dragon hunter dragon girl, please.
>>540951246Roid support that makes them meta
>>540951246Make the genesys devs lower necrovalley to 20 points each at most please
>>540952175Balance, you idiot.
>>540953498Wart-Eyes Dark Toadoon?
>>540954065The Dragonmaids will recruit and teach her how to transform back. Trust the plan.
>>540954240I'd still argue Toadally is stronger. Not OPT and you can make 2 or 3 of it, easier to make, built-in recursion, doesn't need a discard.
>>540954240My sides
Has anyone tried to make Heralds with Mirage of Nightmare in Genesys yet.
>>540954240toad is more cancerous, dragoon is just a negate (one that needs a discard too) + protection
>>540954240Dragoon is OPT unlike Toad
>>540954395>Not OPTboth toad and dragoon are sopt.
>>540954395>>540954719Behold, the single shared brain cell of froghaters at work. >>540954646Having protection is exactly what makes it more cancerous.
>>540951246ACTUAL Gandora support. None of that Shining Sarc shit.
>>540953982Yes. Especially satellar.
realistically, the most cancerous negate in a vaccum is definitely gameciel. nopc omni that banishes what it negates and is fueled by a resource that gets generated just by the game being played.
I wonder what they would have done with extremely splashable and searchable megabadonken generics like CED, Sangan etc. if they hadn't received an errata. Pretty sure there's like 10 different cards that can search CED easily.
>>540955173You vill play ze marshmellon and liek it.
>>540954743the soft OPT is irrelevant on Dragoon because you either used the fusion spell to make it which locks you, or you used Anaconda when it was legal which also locks you, or you cheated it out by using a fusion substitute which you rarely get to do more than once. Also discarding 2 cards for the 2 negates is hard when you also want to keep handtraps in hand.
>>540954065She just needs a bath to get rid of all of those sweat dragons.
>>540955209ease of access is a major consideration, getting the gamerseal running is not so easy
>>540951246Dinowrestler support and not that meme Gouki shit last set
>>540955390That can't solve the problem because it's the grudge of dead dragons which curse herShe must hire an exorcist
>>540951246Continue his story
>>540955214I really wanted to try some kind of chaos brew but so many of their cards have massive point taxes I hope one day they get some support that isn't just generic splashable light/dark stuff
>>540955214you can make them all cost 1 and him 100
>>540955850It already endedHe is separated from Captain by the Dimensional BarrierThe end
>>540955825Excuses, excuses... Take a bath, stinky.
RDA bros how we feeling
our zera the mant flopggoten, rush duel won
>>540951246"Ojama" support.
>>540956589This look like it exclusively makes submissive and super polyable boards
Chakra in rush duel when,
>>540956780RDA recovers just fine post super poly.sometimes phalanx and red reign to banish whole field is all you need.
>>540956589probably our best format but a lot of shit that counters us is very free/cheap
>>540951246A Virtual World field spell and a level 12 VW synchro and a new monster that's just a better toutou
>>540950617R.B is Really Bompetent now. Not top tier but it already has tops
>>540956589shifter is an abhorrent card and is too cheap that's all i'm gonna say.
>>540951246toon support doko
>>540957414lol cope
list is outhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=_lfPx7PIZl8
>>540957502Did striker top again or was there an anon tripping about them being in the top?
>>540953982Tellarknights can use continuous traps to negate the opponent's monsters, then their boss can clear the whole field while returning those traps to your hand to use again.
are you allowed to call pendulum with d barrier in genesys?
>>540956589>Wasting points on called byLolololololololol
>>540956589Why void apocalypse instead of jut playing stone sweeper
>>540958164probably.like how you can call banned cards with prohib
>>540954191A thing which still doesn't exist?
>>540956983>recoversDude, you'd be dead before your next turn.
>>540958281i have more than enough ways to get my tuners and not enough ways to get bone archfiend.if you play RDA at all you know this.>>540958180i'm considering cutting more cards to fit in the third cbtg akshually.
>>540957270I read that as touhou.
>>540958384recovers as in in the same turn>vore scarred>spawns an RDA>red zone and red reign are live.>RDA is unaffected now so you have to kill it by battle>continuous spell respawns him when he dies
>>540958383It exists in Genesys. The banlists are frequent and unhindered by having to keep new products unhit since those cards already have a place in Advanced.
>>540958458Cut the centurion trash
>>540958646>It exists in Genesys.It doesn't, it never will, because this game is a product first and foremost, you're literally coping because it's the first time in years you've felt like KoA might get something right.
>>540958638Why would I vore a vanilla
>>540958723Advanced is the format meant to sell products and make profit.Genesys is the format meant to inflate the player count and keep Yugioh within the top card game rankings.
>>540958826No, the format that has the most public appeal is the one meant to move product, and if Genesys is that it will have cards printed for it.
>>540958758Uhh...because vanilla is food?
If Genesys actually success, and still popular after at least 6 month, can we all agree the reason why the game gone to shit was because KoJ?
>>540958758ok don't vore it?red zone and red reign and (if you didn't handtrap) phalanx.2 spot removals and a field wipe and 2 loops of RDA as a wall. not the worst shape post super poly.
>>540958458>to fit in the third cbtg akshually.Lil bro is that afraid of crow, lmao! Just banish yourself lil bro you will never be King like Jack Atlas.
DuelingBook still has only 1 player in the Genesys rankings with 1k+ rating, but there are now 4 players with a 900+ rating.
>The main heroines of Yu-Gi-Oh would be better if they weren't Duelists at all.Is this true?https://youtu.be/oHqSQBW1VVs?si=7BA6DtFI0WvhYF9Q
>>540959036afraid of shifter akshually
>>540958589god i love women
>>540958458Is more ways to access you tuners not also more ways to access Bone Archfiend? An Ash on Soul Resonator is the same as an Ash on Void if you didn't open 2 card combos, and this plays way too hard into Crow
>>540957414is it nowwhat decks can afford to play shifter in genesys
>>540959212Ghoti and Sexosisters are some of the more common decks that can play it.
>>540959103Not at all.>kotori's seiyuu played the game irl and was excited to voice a character in the anime>kotori asks rio to teach her how to play and rio agrees>rio never teaches her and kotori's only duels after that is during the sports duels girag set up
>>540959186it mostly has to do with options.if you're not handtrapped void let's you send shit like uvualoop while sweeper can't for example.and if you get hand trapped on soul resonator + sweeper (or any tuner) you're fucked. if you get handtrapped on soul resonator + void spell you can still play.
>>540958043>>540955186Post the decks senpai
>>540958908The majority of people who buy Yugioh products from Konami, and also the majority of the entire active Yugioh playerbase that still go to physical events for a while now, are Competitive Players.Yugioh Advanced has just been a sweaty tryhard format with players constantly selling their old decks just to buy the meta.Casual players who are likely to play Genesys will either already own most of their deck, or just buy cards from second-hand resellers, since a lot of the products those cards are from are already old and out of stock. They won't be giving any money to Konami by buying those cards.
>>540959309damn imagine the seethe is exosisters wins a dng tournament haha....
Deck for this?
>>540959103Kotori dueled, doen't count as "at all".
>>540959645more likely than you'd think.unhit xyz deck that can use all its points on staples that fuck everyone else
>>540959140I wonder if you could Lancea that.
>>540950617R.B. is a decent deckstop talking so much shit about it
>>540959309The way Ghoti plays just looks so fucking annoying.
>>540959868Show me the end board.
>>540959868I doubt it can even beat Tistina
>>540959943fun*
>>540959943It's thematic and not super oppressive. It's great.
>>540958908you are exactly the kind of retarded, evil, incredibly short sighted small brained third worlder that has driven ygo to the state that its in because you cant grasp anything except short term profit spikes
All Kashtira should be 100 pointsAnnoying faggot deck
>>540959562I don't have one, but the boss that bounces is Stellarknight Triverr.The continuous negate traps are Fiendish Chain and Phantom Knights' Fog Blade.They also have an archetypal negation counter trap in Stellarnova Alpha.
>>540959868>>540960036Duel, faggots.
>>540959943ghoti manages to be one of the most unique decks in the game while being synchro, a mechanic known for being same-y spam.it's an amazingly designed deck. and its powerlevel is perfect, game would be much better if meta decks were at that level
>>540960395No, I just understand that this is exactly what will happen because I assume correctly that the people in charge of this game are greedy retards who would sacrifice their firstborn at the altar of money if they could.
>>540951246Just take all my balls and double my extra deck limit number!!!!!!!!!!!
>>540957502Can't believe all it took to make trap monsters good was give them 15000 omninegates per turn
>>540960734I only remember this card because the tennis guy in GX used it
>>540951246More boobarchetypes.
>>540960980I remember it from Edo using a structure deck.
>>540959997any way of summoning the link-2 without RBs (ie terrortop and hornet drones) ends with 1 monster negate and 2 of these options>a monster pop>a monster steal >an s/t negateplus you handrip 1 monster from your opponent's hand and have x1-2 destruction protectionsalso drawing any of the 3 monster interruptions let you have all 3 of them insteadall without NS btw
UDF is way too fucking cheap
>>540962157UDF?
>>540961652seconding anon, rb endboards are nothing to scoff at
>>540959667time thief?
Holy shit, so that's the out to Liger Dancer! It even protects you from two of them on the same turn, too.
>>540962986Ignister sisters, our card gets whored out again...
Couldn't find the artwork using any of the reverse image search sites, so I'll just post the screenshot.
>>540962986How does it it liger dancer if it is unaffected by card effects except lunalight cards?
>>540963591The first effect. It isn't once per turn.
>>540963591*out*
Will Worlds have a Genesys division?
>>540963797Probably. Hasn't been announced yet if they will, though.
>>540956589Trying out some dumb shit that I'll probably cut later but Shining Star Dragon is really funYou can Calamity with it (just have to leave a lvl2 tuner on field and red rising in grave) or summon Executor Dragon
>>540962986CHADBERSE
>>540956589resonators have better shit now than red rising bone archfiend also sucks ass
its really only them being complete shit in advance that has made me not notice how cancerous mimighoul isfor a "FLIP" deck approximately 0% of their interactions even come from flipping things, its almost entirely the field spell floodgate that beats me every time
>>540964153What?
>>540964364Sounds like your skill issueYou know people have no problem getting rid of that field spell, right?You know that's why Mimighoul keep fumbling, right?
>>540964565soul resonator only has a dark synchro lock so it and flame crime can get you into the new rose dragon stuffbramble can also banish itself to summon any lvl4 or lower plant that you dumped with the lvl6
>>540964781>draw the out bro
>>540951246Make Gameciel a Sea-Serpent like he is supposed to be.
>Veiler and the other 1 for 1s are so terrible that I gotta play DeltaWhat has this game come to?
>>540966171uhhhh bro theres no links in genesys and youre way over 100 points
>>540966171>WarningNo.
Someone share a black rose list I’m trying to learn it
Should Genesys making Circular and its offshoot 30 point or more?
>>540966171Why Angel Trumpeterr specifically?>invest on Cherries>use it only to shit on Lunalight and not the rest of the meta when his ED clearly has room for itI don't get it
>>540964153>>540964938I don't see what this mix is solving?>You still eat shit if Hate gets negated by Ash/Imperm>The Plant toolbox doesn't have anything that obviously pushes forward the gameplan >You'd be losing access to both Crimson Resonator and BoneThis just seems like extra complexity for a weaker outcome.
>>540967530>It has the most attack>It tunesThat's literally it
>>540967530>Leo Dancer, Snatchy, Little KnightThose are the only relevant cards for him to hit though
>>540967798Wew lad
>>540956589>going 2nd cards in main decklmao
>>540969178fuwabros....
How much difficult would be to create a version of Genesys with Pendulums and Links? The alredy existing list wouldn't limit alredy the use of generic links?
>>540969652The link section would take some effort, the pend section would not.
>>540965017YesWhen there are so many outs, it’s entirely your problem that you lost to that jobber tcg deck
>>540969652Make every broken link a 100
>>540969302fuwa is worthdark hole and drnm are fucking not
>>540959103THE VA WAS A YUGIOH FANWHY THE FUCK THEY DIDNT MAKE HER A DULELIST GODDAMIT Wish Rio or Anna were the FeMC instead.
>>540963540https://x.com/yappa_neruwa/status/1875838277498081591
5Ds is still king
Triff gaming is gonna enter the goat debate if he wins another YCSHe doesn't have the 2 byes that Jesse has in every tournament
>>540969803it wouldn't at allonly the most degenerate shit like union carrier, knightmare gob, mermaid, halqi would need to get slapped a point fineapo can have like a 20 point fine, but shit like knightmare phoenix? please
>>540969652Pendulums would need barely any hits.Links being as generic as they are, most Links would likely need hit. The entire reason Links are gone is that they provide an easy backup plan for shit to go into and they are generic as fuck.I'd say out of JUST Link Monsters, you could easily point 70+ different Links and still have a problem with Links fucking the format. 28 of those are already banned/Limited Links.This also isn't counting additional hits required for shit like Halqifibrax where some of the more dangerous interactions get with with a 100 Halqi 1 target. Same goes for Verte, Isolde, Union Carrier etc.You'd have to hit Link-1s too, so stuff like Moon and Requiem being 51 each for example.It would actually be such a fucking hassle to add Links so I understand Konami's side, as much as MOST of my decks dying immediately fucking hurts (I just want to play Gouki for fucks sake)
Konami needs to ban Iblee already so they can unban Mermaid and we can play some cool deck for once
https://yugiohblog.konami.com/2025/genesys/different-point-caps-what-to-expect/
>>540969652Not that hardYou only need to throw 100 on the permabanned assholes (Halq etc)Give the generic endboard pieces (Apo/IP/etc) and going 2nd toolbox options (Phoenix/Accesscode/etc) somewhere in like the 20-50 rangeSlap some points on Circular, Maliss and a few of the Cyberse extenders just enough that they have to sacrifice all non-engine if they want to play the pileAfter that you can just do it case by case. Yummy will obviously need major hits, as will Fiendsmith. Kagari probably warrants some points. Orcust might need some. Hit Savage like they did all the other omnis.Pends are even easier because there's only a handful of good cards. Knowing TCG they'd probably make Electrumite a 100 point card. Majesty Pegasus (the generic Field Spell searcher) needs to be murdered. D/D/D could do with a few minor hits I think post DOOD.
>>540972462>In addition to that, the overall power cap on everyone’s Decks goes down. Your first thought might be “everyone’s Deck is half as powerful” but it can be more complicated than that.God they really don't understand their own format at all...The top decks consistently seem to be free/incredibly cheap engines with all points spent on handtraps. The lower point formats are going to be functionally identical.
>>540972462>Marafuji Shou gets cucked, even in Genesys
>>540964097i feel like alot of the cards in your side should be in main.
>>540967638Maybe because opponents get confused and don't negate it.
>>540969178>going 2nd cards in main deckYes.
I think I've reached a happy place with this list for Genesys. Strong and resilient combo lines going first and decent ability to crack boards going second.Ultimate Slayer in main is unironically really good just trust me.
>>540970787Because Yoshida is a faggot.Kaz even designed Anna as the main heroine.
>>540972462>thread has an argument about Genesys points pricing out specific card combinations>scheduled article on that same day specifically brings up this exact pointThey used to be a lot more subtle about the interns posting here
>>540970846Thanks, anon.
>>540973663Just imagine Anna actually having 7 or 8 duelsWould probably have gotten a few more support cards by now, too
>>540973875There was a rumor going around during that period where OCG was getting their own core set exclusives that the Japanese exclusives were leftovers from some parts of Zexal's story that got scrapped. Considering characters like Anna and Robin came back during the Barian invasion, it makes some sense
>>540973556Do you play on DB ranked?
>Draw 2 cards, then discard 1 card.How would you balance Angel Baton if it were to be printed? Would a Once Per Duel be enough to not make it an auto-include or would everyone just put it at 1 at minimum by default because if you draw it its good?
I wonder if playing Pot of Avarice is a legit strategy in Fusion and Synchro Decks for recovery now that Genesys has a tax on hantdtraps
>>540975007wouldnt this be an instant 3-of in everything?you'd need some huge drawback like no more adding to hand for the rest of the turn or something
>>540975070>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>d.d. crow at 0Perish the thought.
>>540971154it's GOOD they are generic as fucksome decks can do nothing besides shit monsters outthey have shit fucking bosses or pitiful amounts of interaction by themselves
>>540975070>>540975249Also Skull Meister.
>>540975493meister doesnt hit avarice
>>540972462Dumb faggots need to keep their mouths shut
>>540975429The issue is that Links aren't available to JUST those shit decks that can do nothing but shit stuff out. Giving Links to the good decks too just elevates those good decks to be better
>>540975429It's BAD that they're generic as fuck, retard. Every deck shouldn't be able to clean up their board so easily while also going into the same exact broken endboard bosses.
>>540975619name a single GOOD meta spam-shit deck that makes a full board of their archetype interaction + genericsoh wait, that's what POINTS are supposed to inhibit by adding a cost to generics???, but they just fucking banned links instead???they could make Baronne 30 fucking points and it'd be fair
>>540975539I thought you guys were just talking about alternative cards and handtraps for 0 point Genesys.
>>540975674AIIEEE IS THAT KNIGHTMARE PHOENIX??? OH DEAR GOD THE S/T REMOVAL ED OPTION THAT 90% OF ARCHETYPES DON'T EVEN HAVE?!! OH THE HORROR
>>540975007HOPT and can only activate on turn 3 or later to mimic speed counters
>>540975949>giving every single deck the ability to out Spells/Traps instead of actually incentivizing proper deckbuilding by adding S/T removal into your deck insteadYou are retarded and I'm glad Konami doesn't listen to you. If the Knightmares were legal for Genesys they would each cost like 30 points
>>540976086>NOOOOOOOO NOT MY FLOODGATESkys
>>540976086>giving everywhat happened to the point system you retard?and yes, it's retarded when losing is "draw the out" 3MSTs in your deck (which your opponent can set up to negate with their archetype/ED)
>>540976086no ib locks for you
>>540976353>what happened to the point system you retard?If you have to point Knightmare Phoenix so high that the point system actually comes up, then you are stumbling into the same problem with adding Links in general. Knightmare Phoenix in the grand scheme of things isn't even a good Link anymore
>first ever genesys game>cbtg resolves>win>>540958180cope
>>540976353>I ran a low amount of S/T removal in my deck and got punished for it>this is Konami's fault for not giving me the ability to out anything my opponent does for the low-low cost of putting literally anything on the field (super difficult because I lost my frontal lobe at birth!)fuck off
>>540976731lmao that was meI'm on the same deck I know not to stick around when Crimson resolves
what about a format that just straight up bans all handtraps instead
>>540958458>>540976731So did you add the 3rd Called By?
>>540976795kek i don't blame you. i'd be groaning too.
>>540976872It's called AMC, and it was ruined by FTKs.
>>540976872Then the game turns into a true coinflip format.
>>540976889no i decided i want belle since everyone is on crow.i'm also testing this guy's idea cuz i like it. >>540964097gotta say genesys is worth it just because it let's you revisit decks you thought were solved with a fresh lens
>>540977171forgor image
I want Yang Zing support that's just generic wyrm good stuff.I want a field spell that's worth searching with Mula Adhara, because being able to search any field spell and yet having only one descent-ish target feels wasted.I want a monster that has inherent value in the graveyard, so Vessel for the Dragon Cycle has good value even when you can't resolve the second effect.I want the ultimate Yang Tenyi Soul soup slop.
>>540977052maybe you should've banned all those ftks instead of banning random cute girls out of spite.
>>540977580But I have to be a spiteful asshole!
>>540977580That was one guy. Blame everyone else who didn't ban FTKs even though they weren't doing that.
>>540977580iirc towards the tail end of the format most ftks were actually dead.format didn't die because it was particularly broken people just lost interest.
>>540969652Incredibly easy because we all which Links are the problem because they're the only ones worth using(Charmers, generic link-1s, Knightmares)Pendulums are also easy to box out because the trauma casuals have for Pendulums mainly come from the Magicians.
>>540970784dark hole is worth it, mimighoul is tier 1 in genesys
>>540971154>so stuff like Moon and Requiem being 51 each for example.I don't get it if a person wanted to spend 100 points on making sure they can do full Fiendsmith combo off 2 monsters I say let themIt would be complete shit
>>540977780people lost interest because people banned every single usable handtrap and boardbroaker so you could go first and even if your FTK was dogshit you could do it or you could just make a big enough board unimpeded to essentially FTK your opponent
>>540977171>gotta say genesys is worth it just because it let's you revisit decks you thought were solved with a fresh lensBut RDA literally plays exactly the same.
>people discussing RDA, Blackwings, even red rose synchro>Synchrons: crickets...
>>540949270you're a retard if you run more than 1 block dragon.
>>540975949knightmare phoenix is gigacancer, same with unicornand accesscodeand well, obviously S:P but S:P is just the evolution of that cancer designa bunch of random monsters being able to wipe fields, OTK, trigger GY effects for free, etc. is just inherently gigacancer
>>540978453you're a retard and yes, 33 points for 1 block dragon is worth itbut the post is about contrasting a BANNED TCG CARD vs a LIMITED and their point valuewould one for one being 33 points kill the fucking game?
>>540978434do synchrons actually do anything without speeder?what did they do before speeder?
>>540978238Hit to other Fiendsmith card ;^)
>>540978621You're literally only bitching about them being usable by your opponent.
>>540978642they can do stuff but it somehow feels like worse psychics of all things.
>>540978621>all going 2nd cardsI could understand bitching about IP/Apo but all those cards are a good thing
banning links and pends is fine just because it forces people to play synchro and xyz, my favorite summoning methods.
Any new players here? If so, have any of you gotten interested in deckbuilding, or are you still mostly copying decklists and just trying to figure out how the deck works?
>>540979013fuck you im playing fusion and ritual
>>540978434>no Speeder, No Level Eater, No Crimson Dragonwhat do you expect them to do
>>540979013So true, my fellow black & white card enjoyer
>>540978642You'd go back to pre-speeder Synchrons, which feels bad in comparison. Most of your plays are heavily dependent on what your hands look like.
>>540978621Yeah.
>>540979030yeah
>>540979082Wait until the other 5D's decks get hit ;^)
>>540963836>>540962986So basically it summons something to stop the nuke effect, cool. But what about the Nagasaki when Lunalight shoves a second nuke?
>>540977580Not my fault people kept banning handtraps against FTKs and boardbreakers against stun
>>540978843no i hate them in general>>540979003IP/Apo are also cancer, and they are going second cards that just help body vomit combo slop way more than actual going second strategies since they get to pivot into board nukes and otks for almost zero investment
>>540979407Do you see a once per turn on that first effect anywhere?
>>540969652>PendsYou'd need to make a handful of cards un-fucking-mixable like anything involving FTK's (i.e. Supreme king dragon starving venom or SHS's shit) and the Lunalight pends existing with current Lunalight would mandate Lunalight to get slapped, clapped and plapped. Then the rest is playtesting if Pends without Links can do shit. However>LinksThis one is beyond complicated because even if you account for the banned links of today with equally bonkers shit like the IS:P lesbians, you'd need to do a MAJOR rehauling of non-link cards because shit like Cross Sheep can do some major nonsense, to say less that anaconda is bullshit that shouldn't exist (then again Dragoon is practically bootybanned)
hosting EU casual
>>540979908verte+DPE/Dragoon is absolute dogshit compared to what other decks are doing in genesys right now dude
>>540973767YesIt was me, KoA Interni hate KoJ so much
>>540979963is it genesissy
>>540963836>>540962986why would lunalight just allow you to make this?they make 2 nukes + i:p into s:p they don't have to play conservatively.
>>540979792I see the hard opt clause next to the effect but you wouldn't know that's a continuous condition upon first glance. Still,it sounds like a silly waste of resources just to fight Lunalight who loses to droll and other common handtraps
>>540972462200 point cap sounds fun as fuck
ngl main thing making this format more attractive than advanced for me is just the frequent banlists.i like my cope links, but i always like not having to deal with the designated shill deck of the format for 6 months
>>540980112Oh i'm aware, but there's also anaconda + heavy poly for free nukes for lunalight and i do not want to fight that gay shit.
>>540980461200 point cap is FTK hell even konami admits it
Even at 200 points you can't run full power tears or full power kashtira
>200 point formatMy Arcana Force deck will have a field day.ZA WARUDO! TOKI O TOMARE!
200 point is perfect, i get to play lightsworn :)
The problem with this game is literally quick effects (especially good ones) on monsters and monsters that are too oppressive in generalIgnition and trigger effects are king and inherently leads to way less oppressive endboards and gamestates
>>540980397>You can only use each of the FOLLOWING effects of "Light Dragon @Ignister" once per turn.The first effect comes BEFORE that part.
>>540981138>>540980990no one will play 200 points>>540980523they could've just made the forbidden updated more frequently, they're hacks
>>540981178100% agree. Quick Effects just invalidate Traps as a whole as a form of interaction.In an ideal world, Monsters could only have Continuous, Trigger and Ignition Effects and Quick-Play Spells would be gone. The only interaction you can have on the opponent's turn is with Traps
>>540980703This.
>/dng/ recreates Rush Duel for the Nth time
>>540981178>>540981639People will say this and refuse to look at Rush Duel.
>>540981787I say this and absolutely stare at Rush Duel from across the seas waiting for it to fucking show up
red eyes sisters...why do we keep loosening
>>540981787rush duel is even more unfun and cancer than the main game by now lmoa
>>540980523Yup, this. Advanced gets less frequent banlists since they have to finish selling the newest products.A lot of the decks that'll be used in Genesys aren't being sold by Konami anymore, so mostly only second hand sellers are gonna make money off of that.
>oh no no no
>>540981787>Rush Duel.nygo
>>540981492No they can't make them faster, because they still have to sell the latest sets.
>>540981858>waitingIt isn't already too late? How would they even introduce Rush in the west now that we are years behind product?
>>540981178Lots of retro formats are kinda like that, even ones that were already quite far off from original Yugioh.
>flush art its trash switch game floppedanime flopped dl world floppedanime so bad it got killed after the second one The only saving grace is that is still top 10 montly on japan
>>540982231The same way they introduced Asian-English, play catchup>release new sets as they come out>release big sets containing a bunch of popular themes sprinkled with less popular shit>keep doing the above until you import basically everything>continue the new set releases now you are caught up
>>540982615>play catchupAsian English is never gonna catch up at the rate they are releasing sets
ACK!
>>540982993I wish card games were that cheap.
They are never going to import Rush after how dreadful it has been doing in JapanKoA specially, with the sales of the TCG falling out below retail, is never gonna bring it to the West because the last thing they want is to alienate the playerbase and force stores to host both games, it would be extremely risky for everyone involvedIf One Piece, Commander and Lorcana didn't exist maybe KoA would have considered localising it but alas that's not the case is it?
>>540982525>floppedDidn't seem like it did. It went on for five years.>anime so bad it got killed after second one. Misattribution. Between animation studio demand and Kazuki takahashi passing away it wasn't surprising. Studio Bridge isn't Toei and can't support year round animation production forever.
i really hope that armed dragon is not a one off.it's a good card but on its own its a nothing burger.
>>540983429There's also the fact that Go Rush was actually extended multiple times despite being intended to end much earlier
>>540983369Konami of America has no real plans to revitalize anything.
they want a shake up to yugioh without eating away at their own game with a different product like rush.genesys was the answer.it's working.sorry rushbabs.
>>540983369>the last thing they want is to alienate the playerbase and force stores to host both games, it would be extremely risky for everyone involvedSo they made an alternate format and proceeded to shill it immensely, therefore dividing the playerbase between Advanced and Genesys?
>>540977407What does Wandering King do and when are you ever searching it over Bone Archfiend or Red Lotus King?
no one is ready for this conversation but 101 is actually the sweetspot.
>>540984190>t. S0 player
>>540983894>pov all the linksissy whoring themself for GeneCHAD
>>540984069Genesys and Advanced use the same cards, so it's not the exact same situation to be fair. If anything, Genesys could make shitty boxes sell better and thus help stores a bit.
>>540983894Why are her tits so huge?
>>540984069Retard, with Genesys NOBODY is forcing you to buy cardsThe point of Genesys is to play with the cards you already ownThat is VERY FAR from asking distributors, their printing cardboard partners, and stores to get ready for a brand new game entirely
Free my nigger Crimson Dragon.
>>540985040>If anything, Genesys could make shitty boxes sell better and thus help stores a bit.as long as tewart insists on banning half the cardpool thats not gonna happenwho the fuck is gonna buy phantom revengers when the only deck anyone cares about in it is unplayable?
genesys is based
>>540985119Primera sex
Genesyssies > Rush trannoids
>>540985071>The point of Genesys is to play with the cards you already ownand also with the packfiller shit they print (unless it's pend/link lmao)
>>540985040It's the same situation from the standpoint of wanting to avoid alienating the playerbase. Now people who want to play Genesys skip Advanced shit, and vice-versa.>Genesys could make shitty boxes sell better and thus help stores a bitI'd argue Genesys would make boxes sell worse, considering the sheer amount of "blanks" you could pull from. Want to open DOOD? Can't play D/D, can't play Gouki, can't play Solfachord. Want to open BPRO? Can't play Rokket, can't play Archfiends, can't play Fur Hire.Even the good shit will only survive a short period of time in Genesys before dying. Imagine buying Kewl Tune then Konami next point list makes the deck unplayable dogshit?
>>540985071>The point of Genesys is to play with the cards you already ownTHIS.Reminder that dumbass metafaggot investortards are just gonna keep selling their cards to buy meta decks for the format and seethe when the banlists come so fast and they waste their money.Genesys format is for petdeckCHADs that just play their decks because they like them.
Duel Links GODs > all
>>540985425Only the Single Player experience. PvP is always the worst part of Yugioh games.
>I'd argue Genesys would make boxes sell worseNah Meta trannies will buy the bonken stuff and Genegroids will buy the pack fillerIt's unironically very healthy for the game
>>540984182you're right i should cut him for maybe a second red lotus. i just made this deck over an old build.
>play with my cards I already own>fucking lose because my opponents are all playing the top tier metashit in Genesysand also>play with packfiller cards>fucking lose because my opponents are all playing the top tier metashit in Genesys
>>540984027Konami of America doesn't run anything. The Konami of Japan has its own plans.
>even with mitsu being good, reptiliannes safe for echidna and maybe coatl are still unplayableFree the snunny
>>540985584Haha yeah like Gouki... DDD... Solfa... Tri-brigade...
>>540985689>fucking lose because my opponents are all playing the top tier metashitI own Onomats thoughTherefore yes I will play with my old cards I already own and I will also win with themThank you Konami
>>540983894Camellia deserves better
>>540985119if you were a real centur-ion fan you'd be begging for auxilla and the other centur-ion cards to cost 0 instead
>>540985584And what if the boxes don't contain good cards and the pack filler is shitty links/penudlums decks...?
>>540985813>old cardsDUAD was just about 3 months ago
>>540985379Are you actually retarded? How would that make it sell *worse*? At most it will sell the same as it would have without Genesys being a thing. If they weren't going to buy it for advanced format, it being bad in Genesys will not make it sell worse than it already is. And if they were going to buy it for advanced then the filler not being googld in Genesys will nit make them change their mind.God, some of you are unbelievably dumb
>>540983369>If One Piece, Commander and Lorcana didn't exist do people really play these games? i thought it was like pokemon where they are just treated as collection items not games
>>540986006every time i see lorcana packs with modern disney shit on the cover i wanna throw up i don't know how people stomache it.
>>540985863I can live with 1 Auxilla. The deck is already hyper consistent and asking decks to pay in points for a Centur-ion engine is somewhat understandable. Centur-ions real problem is the low ceiling. Your endboard sans Crimson Dragon is laughable.
>>540985824She’s non-canon. She never had a chance.
>>540985997>How would that make it sell *worse*? Easy>forced to be an Advanced player>new set comes out with stuff I'm interested in>buy boxesThen>pivot to Genesys because I enjoy that more>new set comes out with stuff I'm interested in>whoops, some of these decks are actually legit unplayable in the format I play>whoops, some of these decks also are already hit on the point list in the format I play, this shit is ass>buy singles instead because of the much more narrow targets for my wants
>>540985379>I'd argue Genesys would make boxes sell worse, considering the sheer amount of "blanks" you could pull from.i mean, the shit you named would not fucking sell whether genesys existed or not, but now thanks to genesys magnifistorm actually sells, megalith stuff sells, gogogaga shit sells past being a ryzealslop piggyback, artmage and doomz sell, darklords sell, six sams sell, eldlich sells, well you get the ideaa lot of support that is not good enough IS good enough for genesys, as long as it's not link or pend shit it'll do way betterboth heca and kill tune are literally built for genesys, shame about enneacraft tho
>>540985379But is that really that much different from what we already have? DOOD has Typhoon, DoomZ, Megalith, Psychic and Rose support. All of those decks are more playable in a format like Genesys than Advanced.
>>540985874>>540985874>And what if the boxes don't contain good cardsThose are perfect for Genesys Also DOOD and the previous set have been complete ass so heh maybe things won't be that different if a stinker of a set comes out
>>540986253People aren't buying boxes to acquire those archetypes though, so buying singles means nothing for store sales and only helps move vendor singles.People who were advanced players becoming genesys players means the scope for wanting a deck becomes narrower as more Link or Pendulum decks get added. Opening boxes to have actually unplayable cards is ass
>>540986253really makes you wonder why konami thinks that makin 2 archetypes viable would make more money than having 10 be playable competitively.maybe artificial scarcity?
>>54098623680% of cards in a given set are unplayable in advanced and are far more likely to see play in Genesys either way. This has been the case for over a decade and it isn't going to change. Packs will have 1 or 2 archetypes/chase cards and pack filler that isn't worth the cardboard it's printed on in advanced, but now has a home in a new format.No matter how you spin it it cannot make the sales *worse* than they're already doing
>>540986236>whoops, some of these decks also are already hit on the point list in the format I playEasily countered by the monthly point updates that Konami said they will doYou argument is flawed af because Genesys is always gonna keep on changing formats very fast
>>540986440those archetypes and support cards are generally easier to pull, and you cana slo still pull the advancedslop card of the format and sell it for 40 dollarydoos and buy whatever dogshit core is 40 dollarydoos that is actually decent in genesystangentially related, if genesys succeeds and KoA actually influences KoJ to make less links and pends it would be the funniest shit ever
Does anyone know a good place to play Edison format duels? I'm giving up on EDO since that simulator has way too many blatant cheaters and idiots that don't know jack shit about Edison format.
>>540986641They didn't unhit True Draco for the new support in DOOD, what makes you think they'll do anything different when a different deck comes up?
>>540986410You did not answer the part involving pends and links, retard.
>>540986708you can cheat in edo? how is that even allowed
>>540986518If everything is viable then most people can get away with playing something that doesn't require the expensive Secrets. Less packs opened to chase after a $100 card, you can just play something that is almost as good as is full of commons and supers instead.
>>540986701>and KoA actually influences KoJ to make less links and pends it would be the funniest shit everI don't think that would ever happen. At most I could see a world where they take less Link/Pendulum World Premieres (it was fucking retarded to release R.B. at the same time as a format that bans the use of R.B.).Plus, if KoA had any level of influence with KoJ, it would've been for censorship than anything else. Arguing that its cheaper to just released censored artwork that would be released in the TCG instead of paying an artist to make both an uncensored AND censored version for example
>>540986708idk probably an edison discord.Edison isn't popular here either btw.
>>540986871edo doesn't have an edison banlist
>>540986708I mean obviously you'll want to use Duelingbook since the format is most active there. Also YGO Omega has as Edison mode last I heard.
>>540986871It's happening because the EDO devs are fags that don't want to properly implement the Edison banlist. They bend over backwards to please the GOAT fuckers, and even gave the three total Speed Duel players their proper game mode and banlist, but they don't do the same for us Edison duelists. It's fucking bullshit.
>>540985689Just wait a month and they'll get their asses hit in the banlist. You'll still get to play with the deck you like while the tryhards seethe and complain.
>>540986789I don't need to answer dumb AF hypotheticalsBut if we are going to assume retarded "What if..." scenarios then let's say what if maybe KoA and KoJ both came out with the Genesys idea?And who knows maybe what if the OCG is gonna be Genesys friendly from now on :)
>>540985813>>540985909The newer cards are more likely to get hit, so players with older builds of the decks are gonna end up having less hits to worry about.
>>540987323they apparently also refuse to add genesys, i think of one of the lead dev trannies is a control freak retard that refuses to let others add shit he doesn't likes
#Genesys4Edo#RapeanEdoDev
>>540987053>>540987323oh okay, well i'm not familiar with edison but i hope you guys can find a solution
>>540986742Because they said they would change the points going forwardWhy they didn't do it for True Draco?EasyThey hate that archetype's guts just like Kashtira
>>540986006Idk if they're keeping it up but Disney put in a lot of prize support to draw people to play Lorcana. But apparently the problem is that it's just an even simpler version of Pokemon tcg
>>540986742true draco was an extremely powerful meta deck back in the day and one of its cards was still banned up until recently, they are just treading carefully
>>540986253Wonder if they're gonna do prehits for newly released cards like they do in Duel Links and Master Duel.
rushflop stay flop
>>540987545>one of the lead dev trannies is a control freak retard that refuses to let others add shit he doesn't likesI'd believe it. You could implement the Edison banlist into EDO in a single afternoon, so there's no excuse to not do it.
>>540987741Draco sucks dick though. It's best quality is floodgates and you cannot play those.
>>540969652With Dragoon and Fusion Destiny alredy in the list, what other use those Verte would have to deserve any Score higher than 80?
>>540986742Because it's a different format, retard, so different banlist philosophies.
>>540987471It honestly seems likely too. Konami said that the Japanese branch was involved in the testing of the format, Japanese players seem super interested in it, and we have at least one confirmed Genesys local in Japan already. Given card design is done months to a year in advance we probably won't see any changes in the near future, but by the time the Genesys YCSes in the TCG start happening, design might have already started moving towards a more Genesys friendly model
>>540985684>a bunch of jews are no match for THE KINGHoly fuark it's just like in my history books
>>540987993A deck can suck in Genesys but if someone at Konami hates the archetype because of its crimes there is no helping it
>>540986708DuelingBook if you're willing to play on a manual simulator.
>>540988113Made by the same peopleWhy on earth do you think they would change banlist philosophy now?
>>540987914they actually did that already, but they did say that they wouldn't pre-hit brand-new decks like magnifistormmost likely they'll only pre-hit decks if they are already good and get good support on top of that (i.e. K9)
post a genesissie blackwings deck list and teach me how to play it while you're at it.
>>540987914They've literally already done that, though it seems that at the moment, they're mostly in the camp of "only pre-hit things if they're part of a theme that has already been proven to need points".
>>540988238I don't normally care for manual sims, but I just might make an exception for it if it means I can actually play some proper Edison duels.
>>540986789lmao retardJewart can literally make Genesyssie decks out of TCG exclusive decks if he wantsEven if sets like DOOD that are hot garbage come out Jewart is gonna make sure the Genesys cards are good.
who new that the best yugioh shakeup was just less yugioh.
>>540988382This is gonna happen huh?
>>540988260Because the formats have different purposes and playerbases.
I just want less murder of petdecks.alot of already mediocre stuff gets assraped with point cost for no reason.
>>540985379MTG went through having several different ways to play over the years and it was fine. Everyone knows their endgoal is still to get more money but since Yugioh isn't easily convertible towards attracting a gajillion picture collectors, they still need players playing the game. That means having to find a way to retain them instead of players slowly wandering away, and maybe grabbing a few curious new ones off the periphery
>>540988260did they ever make blogposts for the normal banlists where they explain their thought process and straight up say>you won't play ftk, i don't care if it sucks 99% of the time, if i see you making a new ftk deck i will ban hit itor straight up encourage peopel to use a specific hashtag so they can gather feedback more easily?
Give me one reason why I shouldnt use a Circular engine in my genesys deck. It's 0 points.
>>540988912Cyberse are fake and gay.
>>540988912What is a Circular "engine"? You can't activate Sigma
>>540988326Neat. Hope they also go ahead with prehitting archetypes if it becomes meta in the OCG beforehand.
>>540988912what is circular engine?
>>540988912bro on to nothing.dis nigga ain't cooking shit.
>>540988912You need 3 MMZs to Superfactorial into Laplacian
>>540988382>out of TCG exclusive decksAnd you truly expect shit to compete? Look at RB,lol.
>>540982525this,rush original card are so fucking ugly, the only good looking cards are old monster from the main tcg lol they are use them for sell this shit
>>540988912
>>540988912All that effort for a r4nk.
https://ygorganization.com/ocg-september-2025-rulings-update/RULING REVERSALSRuling changes that have occurred this month:September 11: Crystal SeerOld Ruling: If you have exactly 1 card left in your Deck when the effect of Crystal Seer resolves, the effect is not applied.New Ruling: If you have exactly 1 card left in your Deck when the effect of Crystal Seer resolves, that card is excavated and added to your hand.September 11: CockadoodledooOld Ruling: If the effect of Evilswarm Ophion is applying, you can Special Summon Cockadoodledoo from your hand as a Level 4 monster using its second effect. Also, if it is a turn you activated Worm Bait, you cannot Special Summon Cockadoodledoo from your hand as a Level 3 or 4 monster using its effects.New Ruling: If the effect of Evilswarm Ophion is applying, you cannot Special Summon Cockadoodledoo from your hand as a Level 4 monster using its second effect. Also, if it is a turn you activated Worm Bait, you can Special Summon Cockadoodledoo from your hand as a Level 3 or 4 monster using its effects.September 11: Grandpa DemettoOld Ruling: If the effect of Barrier Statue of the Abyss is applying, you can Special Summon monsters with an original Attribute other than DARK with the first effect of Grandpa Demetto.New Ruling: If the effect of Barrier Statue of the Abyss is applying, you cannot Special Summon monsters with an original Attribute other than DARK with the first effect of Grandpa Demetto.
>>540989157>cooking shit.How is Number 59 deck in Genesys?
>The Nigga with the Mask deck is 0 points
>>540989382big day for cockadoodledoo players
>>540989012>>540988982Circular + any level 4 gives you set superfactorial with 3 mathmechs on grave and you're still left with a level 4 on field so you're not losing any resources.You just have to run 3 garnets.
>>540989382>Old Ruling: If the effect of Evilswarm Ophion is applying, you can Special Summon Cockadoodledoo from your hand as a Level 4 monster using its second effect.Konami said so ruling.
>>540988852Never gonna happen because most of them are gay unbreakable board shit
>>540988382Do you think fucking has any say on whatthe TCG exclusives are like? Lol.Every single TCG exclusive, was designed, drawn and approved by Konami JP.
>>540989638Well he used to, at least.
>>540988982Considering Sigma got points added to it in the first update, it's pretty clear that you can
why didn't they post new cards like the new armed dragon?i thought it was 1 per day
>>540989939>he thinks konami wouldn't hit a useless card for no reasonlol, lmao
>>540989939starving venom has points and its basically unsummonable lol
>>540990149That's only during the last few days before a set drop
>>540989382>Q: When I activate an effect that targets a card my opponent controls, and my opponent activates the second effect of Enneacraft – Asta.PIXEA as Chain Link 2, can I then activate an effect that targets a card on the field or in the GY as Chain Link 3?>A: No, you cannot. Since Enneacraft – Asta.PIXEA is changed to face-up Defense Position as part of the procedure for activating its second effect, its third effect that states “After this card was flipped face-up, while it is in the Monster Zone, your opponent cannot target cards in the field or GY with card effects” is also immediately applied.FUCKI COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS ON EDO BEFORE AND LOST SO MANY GAMES TO IT AND I THOUGHT I WAS WRONG FOR THINKING IT BUT I WAS RIGHT FUUUUUUUCK
>>540990282so the new set dropped already?
>>540990532WPP has been released, but BUPR comes out next month.
hosten EU casual genesys
>>540965679Sea Turtle = Aqua
i feel like you can do something broken with this in genesys but i'm too brainlet to think of it.
>>540965679"Sea Serpent" is Sea Dragon, anon.
>>540991848Btw, the japanese name is Gem Beast Emerald Turtle. Tortoises are land-only.
>>540991857Smoke Grenade, maybe? It's 87 points.
>>540969652all link 1s are 100 points
>>540991857twin swords of flashing light + 2 copies of mage power
>>540951246Kaiju, Neo-Spacian and Neo Space support.
>0 points>so are all the Amazoness cards, and some of those are just search spells>so is the Seventh packageI wonder if any Genesys decks could abuse her.
>>540972618>halq is a "permabanned asshole" but apo is worth 30 points
>>540988316>3 Simoon>3 Sudri>3 Shamal >3 Vata>3 Bora The Spear>2 Harmattan>1-2 Gale>0-1 Chris the Crackhead>1-2 Chinook>1-2 Sharnga>1 Zephyros (13)>2-3 Whirlwind>2-3 Assault whirlwind>3 Black Sonic>0-1 Twin Shadow>Whatever else you think you need. Im on Heavy storm and Druler right nowED>3 Towers>2 Black Winged Dragons>1-2 Nothung>1 Silverwind if you do play twin shadow>1-2 Obsidian Hawk Joe>1 Boreastrom (20)>Whatever else you think you need. I play 2 Beelze and 1 Leo>Total: 33GameplanJust make towers. They got rid of it? Make another one. Cant make it? Spam the level 4's and Gale to make Joe and bring a towers back from GY. Set Black Sonic to protect towers. Its a banishing Mirror force that can activate from hand if you have EXACTLY 3 Blackwings. Pretty memey but no one's running a lot of backrow hate and the people who did run it did not have the gas to get over the towers. Shamal is a level 4 tuner with no restrictions so throwing Beelze in there with Void Ogre for good measure helps flexibility. I rarely summon Borealstorm unless I have Bora or Kris in hand for a level 10. I usually pitch him with Chinook's effect.
Should the extra deck limit be changed or is 15 always the best compromise?
>>540992530>with different namesshit, uh make one of those mage powers axe of despair
>>540951246>>540992701when will they start showing cards for this thing?i need more neo spacians support please
>>54099316815 is just an arbitrary number konmai came up with when they printed Stardust Dragon.
>>540992859If you wanna blow half your points on Apo you're not winning many games lmao
>>540991857do you still have to banish 2 machines to equip this with power tools effect?
GG anon but you got schooledI am the one true king of Fish
>>540973767>he doesn't know our namefags are getting cards referencing them soon enoughSoundwave is getting a suicide card and Sora is getting a baby card while Honk is getting a win con spell that never actually activates
>>540991857Archfiend Staff, Solitary Sword of Poison, and Megamorph can one shot through most monsters**that are not immune to spell effects*that are in attack position or not immune to targeting*that do not have any jewish battle tricks
The Ghoti mirror is truly cursed, I realized none of the non-engine I play and in the side does anything in the mirror lolGGs I like the Harpooner idea
>>540993475what happens if they lowered it to 12
>>540994276I'd cry
>>540993475It's 15 because the Side Deck was 15, and 15 was likely chosen so that even if you swapped all of the cards, it meant that your deck was still more than half the initial starting cardsThere's also physical space to consider, 70 cards (40 card main 15 side 15 extra) is about the max those shitty cheap ultra pro deck boxes shops push to kids can hold
>>540985584*laughs in bpro rokkets, archfiend, fur hire*
>>540993961Don't think so. Armory Call skips activation costs when equipping using its effect, so it probably works the same.
>>540993168It should be less if they change it at all.
>>540949270Because metafags are a loud minority of the game that will kick and scream if the banlist gets updated too quickly.
>>540951246RE, flameswordsman, gate guardian, vendread support
>>54099347560 (maindeck max) + 15 side + 15 extra = 90sleeves typically come in packs of 50, so stopping at 90 is a safe point since you'll have a few extra sleeves in case one of the sleeves split or if you want to sleeve your tokensAt most they could push the Extra (or side) up to 20 slots to use up 95 sleeves, and you'd have 5 extra in case a sleeve gets damaged.
>>540959309Honestly ghoti doesn't even like shifter that muchSure, they can play it but there are a lot of times you'd like to have a few fish in the GY.Shifter can muck with your recovery game and put you in awkward situations.
>>540995661This.
>>540991857This with Archfiend Staff is a recyclable negate, with Metalsilver Armor is a very annoying floodgate
>>540995395nice
>>540996136Shifter is just one of those cards where if it fucks you 50% but it fucks your opponent 90% then its still worth itIt's like how Maliss doesn't like Shifter either, it fucks with tons of cyberse lines. But if it is a turnskip for your opponent then its still worth it anyway.
>>540993259They're a can konami's been kicking down the road. They have to confront Neo-Spacians eventually but they can always look the other way and make winged Kuriboh level 7 or some nonsense like that.
when I play tenpai and my opponent shifters me I just have to scoop when my opponent plays tenpai they shifter just fine and somehow still otk
>>540997323But the problem is ghoti is a delayed deck. It plays on the opponents turn.Even if they go first and hit shifter, its distinctively possible they cannot OTK on an empty board because they play on their opponents turn and by that turn 3, shifter has passed and your opponent can fully play again.
>>540997914Sounds like a skill issue.
>>540991857This card is such a potential man: They made it very generic so that everyone can use it, but to balance it out they made it so weak that, in combination with requiring equips to be useful, not even its intended archetype uses it.
>every vrains/arc v main cover pack set will now be forever completely doalmao
>>540991857>>540998858Anyway, in Genesys you can use Butterfly Dagger - Elma instead of Archfiend's Staff of Despair as the recyclable fodder equip spell for the Supermagic Sword of Raptinus and Metalsilver Armor combo, since it only costs 1 point and... that's it really. In;b4 Smoke Grenade, that's 87 points. You tell me if it's worth it.
>>540991857A shame they hit the easier level 9 synchro engines.
even in this format going 2nd with RDA feels like ass
Love all the deckbuilding discussion the new format has brought into /dng/ in the recent threads. Nice to actually be talking about the cards again.
>>540998862>arc flopnothing value was lost
>>540999717dw bro, the BLDO support will save it.
>>540998862Links/Pends coming back is an inevitability honestlyIf the format gets big enough to compete with advanced, its gonna become the primary vehicle for selling packs.And if it ever is going to spread to Japan there will be riots in the streets if they try to ban Sky Striker/Live TwinsAnd when they get added they're gonna have to redo the entire point system from scratch again. Better to just do it now and get it over with
why is link not allowed, people only hate pendulum trash
>>540999717I've been winning games off just fuwalos and droll sometimes that's all you need going second.I also main drnm which helps.Depending on how BLDO goes RDA can be the formats potentialman
>>541000065Rei's gameRei's franchise Rei's worldNow and forever.
>>541000496She pleases old men
>>541000310It gave it's life to get rid of Pends
>>541000065The way you talk about it removes all the benefits of there being 2 options now though. There being 2 formats lets someone wander between them like a ping pong ball as they please instead of leaving forever as konami fears
>>541000496Not content with their delusions about Striker replacing the mainline anime they're now coming up with "Here's how Striker can still be played in Genesys format"
>>541000689I don't know why you fags pretend the lack of links/pends is the only thing unique about genesys and not the entire points system that makes genesys what it isAnd there's currently 0 options for people who want to play a low power pend/link deck
I don't see links and pends happening.Balance will eventually reach a sort of equilibrium after a few months where people are comfortable with the game mode and become averse to change, after it cultivates a fanbase i see intense backlash if they make a big change to the mechanics.That and you're daydreaming if you think a KoA baby will ever do anything nice for pends lol.
>all this seething over Pends not being in the formatLmao when will this dude understand the fact that pends are gone without risking a lot of modern main deck cards is one of the reasons why the format is gaining traction?
>bootlicking localizerssame as it ever was
Genesys Pack that prints contact fusion versions of links.
>>541000496>sample
>>541000310You'd have to hit way too many linksJust get rid of the whole mechanic instead
>>541000917I don't think it really matters if they make a way later change to allow in pends but links by inherently being so easily generic and adding the emz, even when assigned points, seems like it'd move to being too identical to how advanced already plays
>>541001437This website sucks. I can't upload shit before reaching the limit.
>>541001659And watching Onomats combo isn't? We're a week in you can't keep pretending Genesys is some GOAT powerlevel format
>>541001863Who are you quoting?
>>541002003>seems like it'd move to being too identical to how advanced already playsGenesys already plays identically to how advanced plays
>>541002091blatantly untrue
>Pend players are bitter and seething over Genesys format>Raye/Live Twin/Malissisters are just wholly delusional in their belief that they'll be imported in Genesys format really soon just 2 more monthsNoticing some Yugioh psychology
>>541002091Not at all now that the generic links aren't always an option, and no one expects decks like onomats to keep to the same level either after further updates
>>541002229And they wouldn't always be an option with some points allocated eitherWhy are you pretending to be retarded? Every argument against Links in Genesys seems predicated on the idea that they'll all be 0 points
>>541002210>pend players are used to being shit on and expect nothing >link players are used to being pandered to and expect something
>quaking in fear of onomats like they're t0 after all the wins of stun odionlmao
I just wish all link and pend crybabies weren't so disingenuous.you could've just said it sucks your troon mechanic isn't in then stick to advanced.but no, you have to try and poison this well too by downplaying how aids your slop mechanic is.you're not invited for a reason.
>>541002424>stick to advanced.electrumite is banned in advanced too though because 1 guy at koa doesnt like itwhich coincidentally is why theyre banned from genesys too
>>541002326No one trusts konami to play reasonable with links in the 2nd option format after all these years, so when they wall themselves off at the first step it's welcome
Just faced Lab in genesis and wow that deck is nerfed to shit, it's actually fun to play against now
>every future code talker, firewall, rokket, trickstar, marincess, salamangreat, altergeist, gouki, tindangle, @ignister and appliancer support is completely doa and will rot on shelveslmao
i want to play odion but coombo instead of stun.i see all those bodies you can spam off just the Nigga with the mark and my almonds activate.if i only i could throw a tuner in there consistently
Let me summon Brute Blues in genesissy....
The only pendulums to care about in the meta, genesys or normal play.
No one really cares much about the later yes or no on pends because of how the company has dealt with them over time, and giving them mostly flatly middling power. But the company's track record of self control with links is just horrible, awful, worse than when Xyz were getting to their most powerful cards
Genesys saved the game it is undeniable
>>541002531>muh KoA>admitting the mechanic relies on one cardI love how the 2nd point conveniently ignores that KoJ hasn't bothered to make up for this shortcoming and still gives them shit. Or the fact that most of the OCG ignores Pends alongside the TCG showing a clear disregard for the mechanic even at the petdeck level.
>all the videos on yugioh fans reacting to Links or even Pends for the first time are gone mmmmm....notiiicing
>cheatsion and cheatyz still get to run rampant in genesys along with advancedkek
Sexoo
>>541003581What are you even talking about? There have been tons of good Pend cards coming out lately
>>541003804>There have been tons of good Pend cards coming out latelyname oneno, enneacraft is not good
>>540990313Damn, this is big news for Krawlers.
>>541003851>name one>NO NOT THAT ONE
>>541003804???
>>541003995>he was unironically about to say enneacraft is goodfucking lmao
I wish KoJ ignore Link/give them shit support like PendBut no, they keep them best support/best deck back-to-back
>>541004061>its bad>so it should be banned?
>>541004148anon what the fuck are you talking about?
>>541002210Do pend players realize that even if they did free pends you literally cannot pend summon from the extra because there's no extra zone and 90% of pend decks are unplayable anyway without the link bandaidslike I don't think they'd even be good if they were allowed besides lone monster support like the latest ritual CaC
>>541004095Why do Links get blamed for Maliss in a way that Synchro never got blamed for Tenpai or Fusion for Tearlaments?Objectively speaking XYZ has easily the most notorious set of permabanned bullshit cards. But it never gets brought up by genwar faggots.
>>541004480>Fusion for Tearlaments?people were calling them cheatsion for years, are you new?
>>541004480Links are more evil than xyz
So much for master duel.
cheatualcheatsioncheatchrocheatyzchink
>>541004556Not one person claimed Dual Avatar needs to be permabanned because of Tearlaments.
>>541004556Tearlaments became virtually unstoppable when they had the ability to use XYZs and links.
>>541004381In a scenario they feel like introducing pends way later, they'd have to give Genesys one unique master rule update of its own to place pend zones at the left and right s/t while allowing them to work like it's mr3. It would't be hard to assign pends their appropriate points but then Genesys has to have a unique rule attached to it away from mr5
>>541004701It's still got another 5 years left in it at the minimum
Must stop spamming Crystal Wings going second...Gotta summon boardbreakers...Can't stop spaming Crystal Wings...Gotta turn off coombobrain...
>>541004701>straight up refuse to kill decks even if they're a problem to the games balance>still only 1 real gamemode after 3 years>only keep adding worthless cosmetics for whales100% deserved
objectively, CHEATxyz has the fraudest cards, and HONESTdulum dindu (all the bs is in the rulings)
>>541004701The 2nd wind…
>>541000310Link was a way biggger exodus from Yugioh than Pendulums.
>>541004701They need to implement genesys ASAP
>>541004701What are the current reasons for those 6-7k players to still be playing MD
>>541004480>TenpaiPeople shitting on their gay uninterractive field spell, unrelated to synchro summon>>>541005518Bot
>>541005291The firewall drama by itself is equivalent to the drama of 30 overpowered xyz
>>541005174Are windwitch very good in genesys format?
>>541000310because links are a game breaking mechanic and ruin the basic card economy glow up bulb for example>with links>full combo into halq or fiendsmith or orcust>while you still have 4 cards in hand>without links>is completely useless on its own>requires a second card in hand to send it to the gy>hand is 3 cards now
>>541005701they're useable
>>541001863The next banlist is soon, just wait after the first offical event in a few days.
>>541005813Spamming crystal wing is fun
>>541005701They're ok.The problem is your opponent can just chain fuwalos or ash to ice bell and either way its a turn skip.The deck desperately needs more starters.
>>541002210Technically, you can just play all of their main deck cards.
>>541005998WW isn't a deck it's an engine
>>541004480>Why do Links get blamed for MalissNobody complaining about Links does this unless they started playing yesterday.
>>541006142An engine that locks you very specifically to wind monsters for the turn and only level 5 or higher wind monsters from the extra meaning its really not that splashableJust play a better engine at that point. I don't even know if speedroids want to play these girls, I dunno if they use their level 3 synchro in genesys
>>540959103TrueIf the heroine was a Duelist, they would get a less important role than the other Duelists, especially compared to the Trio Hero, Best Friend and Rival, Heroine Duelist would get less screen time and Duel and the writer would make them jobbers to wank Villain and Rival.Aki looks better compared to other Duelist Heroines because at the beginning of her debut she was a Villain, but after joining the MC group and Crow appeared, her role was always under Crow, who was a Best Friend.
>AIEEEEEEE>cheatsion are at it again!!
>>541006990cry harder xyzigger
>>541004480I just give an example to the latest link getting shilled>Fine, we will banned Maliss, just like you want>here is Yusaku card that work function exactly like card we banned :^)
The Fusion question
>>541007196what
>>541007196>we will banned>that work functionLinks are truly the White Man's mechanic.
what decks can go 2nd in genesyssies format?assume opponent has 3 interactions, 2 engine 1 non
>>541007615machina
>>541007196Oh, so it's the ching chongs that don't like Maliss.
>>541007615>assume opponent has 3 interactions, 2 engine 1 nonSimply win the game before they put any interactions up
>>541007615depends on the interactions
>>541005518sunk cost
>>540919639First they came for the Speed Duel playersAnd I did not speak outBecause I was not a Speed Duel playerThen they came for the Remote Duel playersAnd I did not speak outBecause I was not a Remote Duel playerThen they came for the Duel Links playersAnd I did not speak outBecause I was not a Duel Links playerThen they came for the Master Duel playersAnd I did not speak outBecause I was not a Master Duel playerThen they came for meAnd there was no one leftTo speak out for me
>>541007896What does China actually like given the the OCG tries to pander to them sometimes?
>>541008638beast-warriors and china
>>541005518They may be too stupid to know about unofficial sims.I tried explaining edopro to a MD player one time and he legitimately looked at me like I had two heads.
predict the next genesys balance hits
>>541005518logging in for dailies so you have capped gems if/when a good format arrives
>>541008982shifter to 11
>>541008982Shifter and fuwalos both need to go up to like 33.I don't understand how a playset of fuwalos is 29 points LESS then 1 maxx C.
>>541009362>buff going 1st even morejesus christ anon
If they made Genesys starter decks similar to the TTT decks, what themes should they do?
>>541008378what was even that remote play app? i don't remember using it
>>541009646Hard to do if the banlist is actually going to change as much as they sayRight now it would probably be Onomat/Odion/Megalith or something
>>541009505Your opponent going 2nd and turnskipping you with those cards functionally means they're playing first so shifter/fuwalos is also making going 1st stronger but changing going 2nd into going first.If you're honestly whining about gonig first, they can lower the cost of some of the more fair hand traps, not sure why veiler is a 7 and imperm is a fucking 13
>>5410096461 Combo deck, 1 Control deck, 1 Nostalgia deck but it can overlap with either the combo or control slots, or 1 deck that is centered around using one of the cards that is normally banned in Advanced like the MST deck with triple Mirage of Nightmare.Something like MAN with the Mark can be either the Control deck or the Nostalgia deck.
>>541009887what deck are you playing that fuwa is a turnskip?
>>541009993You're right anon, its NOT a turnskip, its merely giving my opponent double PoG if I play into it!¯\_(ツ)_/¯Totally different!
>>541009732Don't think Megalith is beginner friendly enough for a Structure deck since they work differently than every other ritual deck does, and since Megaliths use every single Megalith card other than the traps so there isn't that much room for generic cards.
>>540951246I would like an Ogdoadic Support wave that >makes it a functioning engine>haa no locks>turns Nunu and Nauya into 1 card combo>actually allows the deck to fulfill its reborn gimmick by allowing it to swarm the field with reborn Ogdoadics>recurs any Ogdoadic card from GY/banishment or archetypal Pot of Avarice>a way for Ogdoadics to in-archetype pop, banish and discard your cards>Xyzs, primarily a Rank 4 combination of Zohah and Pholis as both an ED starter and also a quick effect removal disruption in the GY, but also maybe a powerful Rank 10 finisher>A way to leverage Ogdoabyss as either a Turn 0 interruption, or to threaten him at any point as a Turn 2 boardbreaker ala Murakumo>some sort of stronger gimmick to disincentivize Snake Rain like giving the main deck monsters discard effects ala Nunu/Nauya, or maybe some of them only trigger when sent to activate a Reptile/Ogdoadic effect or by a Reptile/Ogdoadic effect, or maybe they reborn themselves if certain GY interactions are performed involving Reptiles>idk an archetypal Sea Serpent
>>541009646They would be on the same level as this and you know it.
>>541010224>oh no my opponent might get to play yugioh
>>541010228just read the megalith traps and god they are awful
Hosting Genesys on EU casual.
>>541008378MD will die before DL dies, or they'll die together
>>541010494A opt revival doesn't seem that awful.
>>541009993>>541010431>defending maxx tier faggotrynigger
>>541009732You could do Fire Kings instead of Megaliths but that would kinda conflict with Onomats since you probably don't want 2 of the same mechanics for three sets, uh maybe>Onomat/Blackwing/OdionAlthough I guess that depends on how much you value the idea of a lack of game original archetype representation
>>541002776Was it a balanced match?
>>541010494Megaliths are a funny deck because prior to the quickplay and the later continuous spell all the S/Ts on release were abhorrent dogshit, kinda like the PUNK Spells prior to the field>>541010774None of the Megaliths trigger on special summon
>>541011069But a few of them have quickies?
>>541003594What videos?
>>541007615Tistina
why do megaliths have 2 dudes kissin?
>>541003792
>>541010769This. DL whales are a completely different breed
Sora Perse.
>>541011307Shhhh, don't let people notice they're the shota yaoi deck.
>>541011307sora and son
How do reveals work.Too many packs and covers and TTP LVP IJK LMNOP Whatevers for me to keep up with
>>541011307Gotta balance it out with 2 girls kissin.
>>541011565tranny chaser wishes he was that skinny LMAO
>>541011307We need more decks like this
>>541011307>>541011790Solemn, strike them down immediately!
>>540959049The number of 900+ rating players dropped down to 3.
>>541005208>only keep adding worthless cosmetics for whalesAnd that's how they keep making money. That, and them shiny rarities.
>>541012091he can't hear youhe's too busy with his gay orgies
>>541011790Tewart you have to censor this. How am I going to play this with a straight face at my locals?
>>541008982Allure of darkness, gold sarcophagus and solar recharge gain points
>>541009017This. I play it just for the daily missions, duel pass and events.>>541005518>>541008934Official games give you the satisfaction of collecting cards unlike unofficial simulators where you just have everything unlocked from the start, and you don't have to spend any money like the real life physical card game.
GGs Player. In true Despia fashion I played that game like a total clown. Hosting genesys again on EU casual.
>>541011790>fingers interlacedextra gay
Gradius...
>>541005984I remember pulling off 3 Crystal Wings with Speedroids on Dueling Network when it was released, before the later waves of support, only to get all of them wiped by the 1-of Raigeki that was recently unbanned to a single legal copy.
>>541009646>Paleozoic finally gets its SD, holo OlenoidesLong journey's end
>>541007615Isn't just 3 interactions pretty shit since so many cards plus now?
>>541004381>you literally cannot pend summon from the extra because there's no extra zonejust use mr3. emz is gay shit>>541004061it's better than killed tune
>>541008982FUCK YOU LUNALIGHTSPERFUME AND LIGER HIT
>>541013391silence, unplayer latinxid
>>541006990If the suits were generous about fanservice for once in their lives they'd give me a 24 episode anime series of "what if?" or re-dos of duels that didn't get to happen before. And for their reward they'd probably get to sell a bigger wave of character merch shortly after
>>541009646Anime protagonist and other character decks.
>>541005291This desu.
>>541011405Really? I'd assume MD whales were the bigger ones, considering all the animated cosmetics in the game.
>>541011790Lesbians should be dicked.
>>541003493 Genesys is jist konambre begging "don't stop playing ygo"
>>541003493Yeah.
>>541011307Wait a minute, the light and dark angels and the crystal platform actually looks very similar to an important plot scene with the 2 angels in Kid Icarus Uprising the 3ds game
>>541014003go back spic
>>541014221?
>>541013772>Really? I'd assume MD whales were the bigger oneslol no. DL guarantees you getting the shit you want by clearing the boxes, it's a safe bet than MD Gacha's shit. whales used to farm structure decks to get prismatics, it doesn't help that those decks are meta upon release. we have better mats toowe have better foils now and they are boxed too. it's guarantee after guarantee.
>>541014374Then go the fuck back nigger
Koa legit just made better pend support than KoJ all i can do its laught to not cry lmao
>>541014267When Dark Pit (a dark angel who isn't actually evil just an asshole) saves Pit's (the normal angel) life it's on a blue-ish crystal platform that has the water or whatever plot device it was that heals him
>>541014447Which card?
>there are anons right here that haven't played Sakurai's masterpiecehomos
>>541008982The world will be a 33 point card
>>541014760who?
>>541014760I miss villains like Hades. They don't make 'em like they used to...
GGs Common. Tistina going second is pretty underrated. You would've had that game 1 if you played perfectly.
>>541015309bg, fuck you
>>541015436>fuck younot cool, commonapologize
>>541014752the new lord and savior
>>541014760>>541015031fuck that game it rapidly accelerated my carpal tunnel status
>>541016136That's not even Pend support. The deck never Pendulum Summons.
>>541016684its a scale 0 that can summon itself its better pend support than anything OCG printed in years
>>541017236It's just a Ritual card. It doesn't do any supporting to Pends at all.
>>541017236>better pend support than anything OCG printed in years>SHS>MelodiousWhy are pendniggers so fucking retarded?
>>541017385>can't figure out what to do with an additional pend monster on boardskill issue
>>541017236>card not even used for pend summoning is better than DDD
>>541018002>i need konami to design 1 card combos for me how fucking bad are you at ygo that you need this much handholding?
Wait, I just noticed star seraphs are hit in genesys.
>>541018284rhongo and shock master
>>541017236is that a monster that specials itself for free?! oh lord im going insane!!
>>541015309gg yeah i fucked up big time, tistina is surprisingly good at going second
>>541018262>that you need this much handholding?>he says this as if he isn't posting this just because a kiketuber played it and it wasn't even the wincon of said deckOmegalul
>>541018441It doesn't even summon for free, you still need a tribute for the ritual summon.
>>541018284Support soon.
>>540944332>Bunch of text and summon shit for freeI always see that complain, but they never explain why other decks getting far more free shit is more fair.
>>541018002>pendniggersAmericanspendfriends did nothing
>>541017236'Good Scales' were never a real quality that could singlehandedly make a card playable. It was a schizophrenic concern from the card design team because they didn't understand pendulum conceptually. It's worse at summoning itself than shit like curtain raiser too so even if Mite was legal you wouldn't play it.It's a very good ritual card but not a very good pend card.You can try to bridge the gap but all the pend ritual decks suck ass.
how long until we have enough data to establish genesys tiers?Punk gotta be t1
>>541018498>diviner send herlad>grab raven>raven tribute herlad>summon a lvl2 or lower fairy pend monster>make electrumitethis is basic shithow are you this bad?
>>541018579silence groida noose is the pendulum and your neck is tied at the bottom of it
>>541018546We hit them for rank 4!*ignores onamat maindeck monsters*Classic konami.
>>541018805>make electrumite in tcg>calls others badlol lmao kek>>541018805>herladyour tears won't even let you type correctly LMAO
>>541018921they hit the searcher
>>541018082It might as well be a different kind of card if that's all it's gonna do.It has absolutely nothing to do with Pendulum Summoning or Pendulum decks at all.
Hosting Genesys, EU casual
>>541018785The top's always gonna be shaved down the way they explained their banlist frequency.
Is Evenly bad right now?
>>541018921>>541019414Onomatopaira 33Draco Future 20Titanic Galaxy 20Numeron Dragon 1Every single RUM 1
>pendulum rituals can literally just be a ritual monster with a pend effect that acts as the ritual spell to tribute to ritual summonkek, watch as every ritual from now on is pend ritual
>>541020293Don't forget>draglubion 100Maybe the most non-sensical hit on the list. Why not just kill manipulator of souls if they're that scared of the master duel ftk. It's not really a better rank 8 kill button than other options either.
>>541020673They should have an effect to let you Pendulum Summon Ritual Monsters from the hand.
>>541020714Manipulator is at 100. That's why Numeron Dragon is at 1.
>it's a "to make X good, we just cheated the summoning mechanic" archetype
>pend ritual with pend effect to ritual itself>pend tuner with effect to synchro using scales (that speedroid wing synchron comes to mind but not as shitty)what's next?
>>541020673After the Nekroz and Archfiend support it’s basically a given.
>>541020967>pend xyz that overlays from scales>tribute scales to tribute summon>link using scaleswe have pend fusions already
So are Pendulum Rituals popped in the scales subject to the same "not properly summoned" restrictions as Rituals discarded from the hand and can't be Pend Summoned from the ED unless they were properly summoned to the field first? Same if they were also improperly cheated out from the hand to the main monster zone then popped?
>>541020673NahThey still need Ritual Spell for Pre-Pre searcher
Yeah yeah the archetypal counter trap omni nega-... I-I'm sorry, it does what? Really, that's all?
>>541021146>pend that sets a same level or scale from deck>2nd pend that xyz using scales>3rd pend that can xyz but instead of using lvl = rank it uses scale = rankman what the fuck is konami doing
>>541021146>xyz that overlays from scalesNah, that card summons them from the scales first. I'm assuming this also doesn't work for Pendulum Rituals scaled from hand, but I guess it works if it put itself into the scales using its own effect? What it was cheated out from the hand then placed itself in the scale with its own effect? Then would this card not work in that case?
Remember Amazement?
>>541021335Should've just been blanket protection for your board for the rest of the turn if they didn't wanna go the negate route for that archetype.
>>541021619Ah yes, the Amagi Brilliant Park archetype.
>>541021890But no fanservice cards
>>541021619I always found it interesting how Labyrinth was so thematically similar to Amazement>Slightly sped up trap-based deck>Has 2 level 4 twins that function as play starters which are also implied to be artificial constructs>Main deck boss monster that has a different alternate version of itself that can summon itself from the hand
>>541022141But Labrynth doesn't have those sweet references to other cards, though.
>>541021568if the enneacraft cards can pretend they have an attack value even as scales i figure that a card that says "you can, after this effect resolves, immediately xyz summon using this card and another scale with the same level" would probably work without too many ruling nightmaresdoom-z can fucking xyz summon with equips so anything is possible
>fusing using spells (azamina)>xyz using equips (DOOMZ)what's next?
>>541022297>doom-z can fucking xyz summon with equipsThat's just a ripoff of the Zexal manga.
>>541011307>>541011565More like Mieru and Sora given theyre probably the shortest and lightest fuckers in this general. Mieru is like 4'11 and 120lbs while Sora is like 5'2 and 100lbs.
>>541022141>what if we took Amazement, didn't abandon it immediately, and made the boss a sex goddessLab being an eternal deck by virtue of any Normal Trap being potential support is one of the best ideas Konami ever had.
>>541022726Link using Traps, but their link rating is equal to their spell speed
>>541006943A big problem with the female duelist is oftenly from their own cards.Stardust, archfiend, and black wings had a completely different power gap from black rose dragon, who always keeps exploding everything as the big wow factor. And the massive problem is; her wow factor gimmick is way too self-destructive to include her in the line-up (which they’ve originally intended until Crow naturally was better for the plot they were left with and more popular as a whole). Almost everything they’ve wanted to do with Aki was scrapped.Alexis was far too privileged to be around Judai the poor man, and underwritten from the presence of new characters taking away her attention, since her own cards were never as iconic or unique as Judai’s heroes, Chaz’s monsters (even the manga’s), Yubel’s cards, Rainbow Dragon. And even when she appears again in arc-v, Yuri had far better moments and hilariously beat her with the soldier cards.Zexal had this issue of having too many characters that the fat skate board guy felt like someone who should’ve been more involved by how he was the MC’s implied undefeated obstacle early on. So any confident female character and male character wouldn’t be reoccurring except Shark.Arc-v had a female character with cards Konami likes to shill, but she was shoved into this weird four dudes and four girls plotline with Zarc becoming a female baby that couldn’t smile. And she was a late game character for the fusion plotline.
>>541022726>>541022771
>>541022874Holy off-model art Batman
>>541022923link4bros...
genesyssies format simply isn't fundon't matter if it's slower and everyone is weakerif you aren't a top deck, you have absolutely piss for a boss monster and interactionmeanwhile meta decks can still play boss, interaction, and recovery in their better/meta designed archetypes
>>541023190>if you aren't a top deckThe top decks are always going to be slaughtered in the monthly lists. It's gonna be a race to the bottom.
>>541023190ah yes famous meta decks like>BUY>generaider>onomatsnotable for their strengths both in and out of genesys format and totally wont be crippled with 33, 50+, 10 and 15 costs after a few tops
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>>540951246I NEED (good) ENDY SUPPORT SHENRON
>>541023072She looks like that. You could use glasses.
>>540989329Wrong
>>541022273Yeah, it has cards that don’t suck instead.
>>541023886wow generic girl number 29332302909390
>>541022946Asuka in GX wasn't treated that much worse than the other s1-s2 friend characters, she just got lumped in automatically in the "we're really bored to tears by these characters" group by the writers once s3 started with new characters to use
>>541011307They are not kissing, but that handholding style is still gay
>>541019414>>541020293Notice how I specified "main deck monsters" and you guys listed a bunch of non-maindeck monsters.
>>541023072She is equipped with megamorph
