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>Midnight Deep dive w/ Ion and Metzen on the 1st
https://www.wowhead.com/news/midnight-alpha-begins-october-2nd-deep-dive-and-dev-q-a-october-1st-378587

>Midnight blog posts (Zones, housing, pvp, raids, dungeons, delves, transmog etc)
https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-finally-releases-gamescom-midnight-blog-posts-new-systems-player-378407

>Midnight features
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24228402

>/wowg/ guilds

>EU
<Nerub Silkweaving Forum>

>NA
<GLOBOFOMO>

Previous Thread >>541100769
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gnome sex
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>>541126071
That's like the very first said when housing was revealed, but ye
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Whitemane owes me sex.
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Pugging!~
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the bimbodorei expansion
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is WoW back? are we back?? or is it over...
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WHEREA ARE THE NEW TRANSMOGS
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Dogshit avatar OP
Someone make a real one.
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Did they say anything about gay marriages/unions coming in Midnight? I want to be able to move into my gay house with another man and arrange furniture and basically just get real queer with it.
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ORCED Expansion
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>Void Elves move in and take over Windrunner Village on the alpha
>Windrunner Spire dungeon is all about kicking the Forsaken out.
Anne Stickney's pet race strikes again
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>>541126152
>sweaty white men protagonists
>sweaty white men leads
>sweaty white men front and center
worlo is healing
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>>541126136
it's happening
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>>541126252
i havent played since Sneedolands so havent been following wow for a while.

im coming back to wow for tbc classic when it comes out but tempted to try retail for the housing and wanted to see if it had any draenei stuff desu.
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>Never played TWW
>Midnight looked pretty uninteresting
>Read the alpha class changes for a giggle
>They let Survival Dual Wield and gave it a shotgun
oh no
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>raid
>while waiting accidentally offend the gm's wife (thought it was a dude and made jokes about me sucking other guys dicks)
>she gets offended
>half the guild gets offended
>gm calls me out in discord
>think they're joking so just shrug it off
>check if it's real just in case
>mfw it really is his wife
>mfw she really did get offended
man I feel like shit

so what are your dumbest reasons for leaving a guild?
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>>541121840

TL;DR: You will never get a playable race that isn't lgbt-coded.
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>>541126496
based lorthemar putting chud turalyon in his place. SILVERMOON IS BLOOD ELF CLAY
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>>541126636
>thought it was a dude and made jokes about me sucking other guys dicks
develop
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>>541126152
worst slopper
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>>541126636
bro this type of thing happened to me during i think wotlk or cataclysm there was a guild party outside sw and the GM's wife/girlfriend visited but wasn't in the guild. and me being the sperg i am yelled at her basically telling her to fuck off, then the GM yelled at me in guild chat and I just /gquit and ran away on my mechano strider because i was a gnome rogue
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>>541126496
>Sin'dorei not even captalized
BRAVO
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>>541126636
you sound gay
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>>541126152
slop yourself molesting other slop OC's
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>>541126496
fucking kino lineup. the only one missing is Velen
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Theres more new high elf stuff than new belf in the fucking Silvermoon expansion
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>541126470
UNIRONICALLY
How can you bring back orcs to being protagonists?
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>>541126973
I'm actually gonna tear up. Remember guys: this is all for the greater good. Ban all combat addons.
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>blizzard makes all specs even easier
>shitters that relied on hekili and GSE all play even worse
lol
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>>541126668
>rommath holding himself back from setting all alliance in the city on fire
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>>541126984
You let Metzen actually get to be in charge of an expansion and gets to veto any Elf shit suggested by Anne Stickney and her cabal
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>>541126973
>>541127073
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>>541126973
>>541127073
TOTAL
ADDON
DEATH
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bros... bigdebuffs and nameplate cooldowns will be fine right?
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>>541126890
the one slop oc is already doing it himself
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>>541126152
Will the increase Devastation range in midnight? I reeeeally hate how short it is currently.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmG98apVwKw

IT'S UP IT'S UP
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I heard the news
How are rogues? Do they still play like absolute ass?
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timed a 15 lets go chat
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>>541127096
it's telling how he's the only one that appears hostile to alliance players lol
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>>541127250
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>>541126752
>>541126786
i still think it would be kinda funny if everyone there was a (slightly degenerated) man. something i normally assume of other people on the internet

>>541126779
based socially inept brother
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Yarr, me mateys! I be venturin' forth on yet another voyage with me hardy /wowg/ crew, for ye month of October! This time around, we be dressin' up to TRICK OR TREAT. Make sure ye put on the right attire, and strike a pose before we set sail. But avast, ye scallywags! I'll only be taking those of ye who prove themselves to be capable of showing transparancy in their imagery! I'll be posting ye olde tutorial in short order. Set sail, landlubbers!
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Rate the Deep Dive and Q&A out of 10 wowg
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>made a faustian deal with a cosmic force
>lost their home world
>forced to roam new lands
>they must face the threat of existing factions

But enough about orcs. What's the future of ethereals?
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>>541127396
Woke up this morning. Checked my vault on all my characters. Saw it was absolute trash. Decided it was an men for the Deep Dive and Q&A also being trash. I was proven right/10
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MY DIVINE PURPOSE IS TO HEAL THE WORLD
AND I'M STILL LOOKING
FOR THE PERFECT GIRL
ACKNOWLEDGE ME
AS THE HEAL GOD
CAUSE THIS THE REAL ME
NO FACADE
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>>541127385
Here is an image-tutorial on how to use Narcissus, and a video tutorial on how to turn a Narcissus four-layer screenshot into a transparent image. Note that certain moving equipment parts will not cleanly transition to the layer mask. Try to avoid those. If you are struggling to make your character transparent, please post both the base screenshot and the black-and-white layer mask (in a catbox link so you don't spam the thread) and I will do it for you. Do not post solely a bluescreen/greenscreen, please.

https://files.catbox.moe/p3iekc.mp4
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So did they just completely forget about picrel? I dont even know how they would put her into the story they are doing now.

probably a good thing so they cant just kill her off or something.
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>>541127385
The only good wowg avatarfag
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>>541127476
men? omen
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>>541127396
better than i expected desu. i enjoyed the way it was narrated, that should be the format going forward desu. the qa had pretty strong and common questions. while i didn't like ion's reasoning regarding new races, at least he was honest and intervened with an actual answer over the pr bullshit the other guy was trying to sell
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>>541127396
>damage control
>lawyer speak
>a fat jew "community manager" who couldn't properly pronounce Quel'Thalas
>no one wanted to be there
>metzen looked like shit
>story seems to be shit
>addons are dead which is a good thing
>healers are getting some of the bloat removed which is a good thing
>nothing on tanks
>nothing on the state of mythic raiding
>nothing on half the classes needing complete reworks

Giving it a 3/10
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>frailty no longer stacks
isn’t this a big deal?
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I will always have respect for Ion, I don't understand the hate he gets.
He also gave me Shadowlands Epic edition after I reported a serious bug so that was neat
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>>541127396
Glad they addressed the Draenei, hoping they have the BALLS to bring back picrel.

even if they dont more velen kino will be nice.
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>>541127835
what was the bug
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>>541127839
exodar velen and azuremyst isle in 12.1
trust the plan
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>>541127396
Solid 7 / 8
Most Q&A and deep dive content for any game I've watched lately unironically puts me to sleep, this one kept up entertained and looking forward to a few things.
I like the Direction DK is taking
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That dress is so fucking hot. Tailored for that belf hips.
Gooners fucking won
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>>541127839
deludu, she is stuck on dying AU draenor lol, only MU draenei's relevant. they care about the real draenei, not au garbage mary sue OC
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>>541127839
Imagine if they actually brought her back and had her lead the Lightblind AND Lightbound.
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>>541127983
damn that bitch is basically naked
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>>541127508
his streams were actually hilarious, its a shame he got metoo oneshotted.
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>>541127983
it's a dress from vanilla you idiot
tailored for fem tauren
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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/hekili-add-on-dead-in-midnight/2176054

TOTAL ADDON DEATH
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>>541127839
Do we really need more Draenei? We already had to deal with them and Velen in Dragonflight. They should take a break for a bit
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>>541126551
>no interest in midnight despite being a massive voidfag and liking Knaifus design
>void ranged spec for DH
>on void elves too
fine, ill play your fucking dumbass game
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>>541127592
those that tried alpha said that there's a lot of naga on the coasts of eversong
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>>541127983
You guys told me there were no slutmogs?
What the RAPE
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>We're back to classic numbers
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>>541128251
ah shit, I half expected murlocs to be the kobolds of midnight, the filler lesser race
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>>541127839
If it's about the light going nazi then maybe
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>>541127396
The not-Ion guy kept dodging questions that should have been easy to answer, and sometimes wouldn't even be a good or bad answer, which makes me think that maybe he didn't understand what was being asked much of the time. Like that thing about furniture. The question was basically is furniture an individual item, or is it collection based. Pretty sure it is collection based, but he didn't really answer that, he just said some shit about the trading post.

I'm overall very happy with how Midnight is looking.
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>>541128183
ABSOLUTE DEVASTATION
ABSOLUTE DEVASTATION
ABSOLUTE DEVASTATION
ABSOLUTE DEVASTATION
ABSOLUTE DEVASTATION

Will Ion ever get tired of laying the smackdown?
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FAERIN LOTHAR

MAIN CHARACTER OF WORLDSOUL SAGA
SLAYER OF TYRALYON THE LIGHTBLINDED
HERO OF THE ALLIANCE
SAVIOR OF AZEROTH
BANE OF THE TITANS
FUTURE QUEEN OF STORMWIND
OWNER OF ANDUIN WRYNN
THE END OF WORLD OF WARCRAFT
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>>541128387
Damn I hate Holly Longdale so much
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>>541128184
i love how their heritage quest had a heavy focus on broken draenei then it never went anywhere

literally cockteased us with playable broken.
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>unlocking a set unlocks all lower sets
>but heroic gear no longer upgrades to mythic appearance
melvins and altfags fucked
they're presenting all the design changes and nuking addons as making things "more approachable" (and they made eco-dome a fucking joke and held it up as the exemplar of their new design in order to encourage that belief) but the actual effects will turn out to be the exact opposite of this. S1 of midnight will be the most severe anti-casual filter season wow has seen in years.
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>>541128558
Killing Hekili but leaving shit like raid weak auras is dumb as fuck? And the in game rotation helper is way worse than anything Hekili can do.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5aI5i1HWfA&vl=id

IT'S OVER
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>>541128251
Suddenly this little tease makes a lot more sense
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>>541128387
Cinema
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>>541126973
I now am midnight hype
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>>541128562
lmao, u so mad
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>>541128727
TWW
>We want Delves to be an evergreen end game pillar
Midnight
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
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>>541128251
if they just job Azshara as a raid boss we can kill again im gonna fucking lose it.
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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/addons-and-was-are-confirmed-being-nuked-in-combat-no-exceptions/2175968

WE CAN'T STOP WINNING
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>>541128773
>all content creators release their videos at the same time of testing midnight
positive wow griting cycle begins
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>>541128895
Azshara should've been killed off in BFA. The fact she survived was already bullshit
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>>541129001
She is female. :)
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>>541121062
Tbh at this point I don't care what they do with Faerin as long as she doesn't become queen.
And if they had plans to do that they're probably abandoned after the overwhelmingly negative reception of her.
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>>541126152
>title push autists and mythic raid trannies ruined addon customization so im not allowed to have cell anymore and have to look at the hideous buttugly shitdick blizzard UI
lame
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>>541128727
they said that first about manaforge omega actually, then again with eco-dome
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>>541129001
wrong
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>>541129001
her Voice actor is like silk on my ears. Actually one of the few female characters in wow that didnt make me wanna Kill myself
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>>541129097
I don't understand why you niggas pretend she is a huge character. She was barely relevant during tww.
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>>541128750
>And the in game rotation helper is way worse than anything Hekili can do.
it's supposed to be. hekili being good goes against what blizzard wants for the game.
you're not supposed to have in-game tools that can teach you how to actually play your class correctly while doing content without being a complete burden while you learn. you're supposed to practice on target dummies with a webpage open on your second monitor telling you your priorities, or you're supposed to use the retard mode that filters you out of all serious content. that's what blizzard wants your choice to be.
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>>541129167
what does nagussy taste like
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did anyone's battlenet WoW change to numbers?
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>>541128943
we won... but at what cost
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>>541128773
>queeffi
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>>541129167
Jaina? Alexstrasza?
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>there's gonna be a demo talent where you can summon 3 more wild imps
I didn't even know there was a limit, aside from how fast you can cast HoG.
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>>541129167
>>541129412
Naleidea Rivergleam?
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>>541128943
that's what they get for crying and getting my spec simplified
fucking hekili boomer scum
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you ever realise how barren and dead mmo-champion forums have become?
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>>541129412
jaina is ok but i feel like every char that was shoved into shadowlands has been tainted.

jaina,thrall.etc.
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>>541129630
Whoever is voicing Shivarras or Mother Shahraz in Black Temple
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is anyone on the mdi servers and wanting to run the two keys for the banner toy?
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>>541128750
>she thinks WA is safe
Ion... take the shot.
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>>541129763
you need to have a team signed up for that in first place, and registration closed 2 days ago
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>housing in TWO months
based
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>>541128123
I'm a generic gay 80s gangster!
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>reddit whining about bm hunter becoming more complex in mid
>people use xiv as a sample of "3 button rotations"

are redditors braindead?
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>guy still avatarfagging
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>>541129757
yes very sultry voice.
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>Ebon Might almost back to peak DF numbers at 16%
>It can buff the whole raid now

AUGODS STAY WINNING
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>>541128750
They're blocking all combat apis used by WA or DBM
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>>541129916
meant for >>541127385
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>>541129982
Reminder that r/WoW = /wowg/
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>housing advertised as being on the coast of stormwind/orgrimmar
>housing zones are just literally small islands the size of a fucking island expedition

ah yes another cut bfa feature.

cant wait for tlt introducing dance studios. and farahlohn and thaldranath
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>>541129172
I don't even dislike her desu, but she is possibly the most special snowflake OC character in any form of media. If you think her last name was Lothar for no reason, you haven't been paying attention.
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>>541130060
Our superiority was never in doubt.
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https://old.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1nvkwgt/hekili_addon_will_not_continue_anymore_at_the/

IT'S OVER
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>>541130289
Ok but you're retroactively mad because she might be super important one day? Pretending she is the main character of tww is retarded.
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I want to breed the red dragon that loves gold bars
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>>541128387
I wouldn't mind a stat squish to vanilla numbers every xpac but I know retard autists would throw a fit
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>>541130060
>Dracthyr going back to MANDATORY for Mythic raids
S-Scalies...I kneel....
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>>541130251
I'm so sad.
We could have had an amazing WoD or BfA if they hadn't cut this shit for abominations like TWW or Midnight.
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>there are people here that don't have gul'dan's walking stick
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>>541130389
haven't seen her in the thread in a while
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>>541128835
not even midnight
they intentionally made all the delve trinkets trash this season so delves wouldn't accidentally end up relevant to the real game
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>>541130251
>desperate doomer seething
lmao
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>>541130445
That's a good staff
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>no garithos
not buying
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>>541130671
>>541130671
>>541130671
>>541130671
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>>541130445
staffs suck
let me use daggers on my lock when I have a staff blizzard you fags
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>>541130696
too based for modern wow. reminder

> garrosh disenchanted himself so he didnt have to witness tranny dragons
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>make tits bigger
>cover everything up
bravo
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First they came to my abomination limb and now they’re taking my Bonestorm? Sincerely, is someone on the dev team actively pissed at DKs for some reason?
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>>541130363
I should have preface, I wasn't the anon you were replying to, but I'm not mad about it, I just see they were obviously planning something big with her then changed or delayed when the reception was so poor. I think they were setting her up for queen either through the obvious relationship she's building with Anduin, or to have Anduin abdicate and her Lothar name make her the next choice. It's still not over for her by any means, they could have simply moved all this to Midnight or TLT. You will regret your words and deeds.
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>>541130815
Cope, humanoid.
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>>541130445
I dont like to stress the fact that the warlock rocks, but he jus does,So, for all you staff users out there, feel free to come in and post, my staff is a good one, but here is how it goes
1. post message in the room
2. LOOK IT OVER
3. dont report anything, i might get in trouble :)
and 4. Have fun!!!
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>>541130874
its clear that the devs have favourites
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>>541129856
yea i made a team with myself only and hoped to pug into it for the toy
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>>541130696
Were gonna be killing blood elves that don't like helves lil bro. Racism is gone forever
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>>541130907
You're exactly like the other guy but you're making shit up just to be mad.
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>>541130839
cover?
I see her midriff and bellybutton
damn she even has the fat bump that covers the womb
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>>541130874
You think you have it bad? Sub Rogue got Marked for Death taken from them, then they got Shadowy Duel taken from them, and now their CC is getting hit.
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>>541129413
read the changes in detail, they fucking ruined that class
you cap out at i think 9 imps now
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>>541130839
You can't see the exposed midriff, anon?
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>Twilight Hammer are back as enemies in Midnight
Nigga why do they keep using the same groups over and over, it's comical at this point.
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>>541131114
wow 9 thats a big number
most hekili users can't count to 4
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>dracthyr's reveal was so poor that mmo champion, 4chan and even reddit out of all places despised and ridiculed it
grim
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>>541131263
You're so buckbroken you're living in the past. We won. Face it.
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3.1k am i tuff
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>>541131187
They make sense being included?
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>gamepass drama
AHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YOO VIIL EET ZE BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGS!!!!
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Magister's Terrace (Midnight)
Maisara Caverns (Midnight)
Nexus Point Xenas (Midnight)
Windrunner Spire (Midnight)
Algeth'ar Academy (Dragonflight)
Seat of the Triumvirate (Legion)
Skyreach (Warlords of Draenor)
Pit of Saron (Wrath of the Lich King)

GRIM
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>>541131070
I'm really not mad. And I'm not making it up, feel free to refute
>she is 100% OC donut steel
>being set up as Anduin's love interest
>Lothar line, giving her some claim to the crown, even though it makes no sense for her to be a Lothar
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>>541131187
Don't worry, the Scarlet Crusade will turn on their 3D printer halfway through Midnight and be back for the 287th time
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priests won the class reworks
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>>541131524
She needs to ride my face like an elekk
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if I want heroic/mythic raid mog, isn't it fair that I be expected to acquire that gear in heroic/mythic content? or wait until the next expac (or 2) to go back and farm it?

why doesn't this make sense?
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>>541127385
Its time to die.
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>>541131619
looks like she has no genitals
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>>541131471
>Pit of Saron (Wrath of the Lich King)
Interdasting..
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THIS ....
CANNOT..
BE!!!
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>>541131997
Gor'dan
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>>541131997
Chudmaxxing
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>Amani faction leader is his super sekret grand daughter
Starting to think Blizzard browses here and does shit like this because its funny because seriously when was the last time we got a new male faction leader? Metzen really didn't do shit.
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>>541131658
Buried by Rabben...
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>>541132151
males are bad
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>>541129125
wait cell is not gonna work? why tf would hardcore players want that
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>>541131997
this is problematic.
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>>541131997
this tier is fucking god tier but not popular
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>story is about a horde faction
>no major horde characters other than belves are involved
I'm loving this horde expansion.
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>>541132290
what part of ALL combat addons getting shoah'd didn't you get?
weakauras will still exist for tracking out of combat stuff, elvui will be purely a skin.
Raidframes all gone, vuhdoo gone, etc.
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>>541129916
Your character looks like shit and if you had any taste youd dress better. You're somehow a gay man with no taste. How embarrassing.

>>541130918
Drag furs are largely mid
Coming from a drag fur

>>541131524
Garbage coomer faggot slop.

Haven't you people any taste or sensibility? Or are you a bunch of kiddie diddler like that old guy, you know, nochester.
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>they made the elf port behind strat high elf themed
Neat
>>541128013
MU draenor is dying harder than AU draenor. I wouldn't be surprised if they outright kill off the outlands in TLT prepatch
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>>541132151
This is Zul'Jara, leader of the Amani Trolls. Say something nice about her!
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>Watch the deep dive
>AI voiced video is violently insulting
>Every comment on the video is nothing but glowing praise
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>THE GAME SUCKS BECAUSE OF BORROWED POWER
>NO THE GAME SUCKS BECAUSE OF ADDONS
What's the next boogeyman? Doing anything besides fixing the actual issues.
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>>541132151
Isn't it both a Grandson and Grandaughter?
I mean, not that it mattes, literally everyone knows the Grandson will be a chud that wants the amani to join Xalatath because he hates Blood Elves (Do not ask why he's joining a Blood Elf corpse, shut up) whereas the progressive forward thinking Granddaughter will realize that the old hatreds need to die to end the cycle of war.
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>>541132584
nice avatar
trans rights!
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>>541132453
The Shadow Council thanks you..
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>>541132552
and what counts as "combat addon"? Cooldowns? procs? raid frame targeted spells? this sounds like a terrible update
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>>541131623
>if I want heroic/mythic raid mog, isn't it fair that I be expected to acquire that gear in heroic/mythic content?
>why doesn't this make sense?
so the way we do this now is that we have exclusive fancy versions of the head and shoulders of every set that are unlocked account-wide for getting to that level of content on one character. these appearances work the way you expect it to, where melvins can't get it until it's easy to go back and do a transmog run of the raid.
this is a much better way of doing exclusive appearances. people like to play more than one character and it is a frankly ridiculous timesink to try to get more than one character a full set of myth track gear, especially since you can't catalyst crafted gear (not even the pieces that don't have set bonus!)
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>>541132683
> literally everyone knows the Grandson will be a chud
This is already confirmed lol, the daughter is the good one you ally with and the grandson is the evil one.
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>>541132453
i run it on my dwarf
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>>541128251
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>>541132739
yes all that gone
you will have to use the blizzard cooldown manager and the default raid frames
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24226697
any addon that changes or shows anything in combat is now outlawed.
you can only skin the UI purely for visuals, but not enhanced visuals, only cosmetic.
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>>541132739
literally everything that reads from the combat log will be crippled including plenty of harmless stuff
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So when does Midnight actually release?
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>>541133121
around february
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>>541132151
Dont worry lil'zul will keep his legacy( and get killed)!
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>>541133121
FEB 26 maybe
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>>541133121
26th of feb presumably. Some spanish fansite leaked the date
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>Amani "leader" is Zuljin grandaughter
>they made a female Amani model
>go out of their way to show both male and female amani models standing next to each other
>state multiple times we will need their help
Amani allied race kino basically confirmed
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>>541132739
All of these addons use the same API calls. I'm not sure what you retards expected. You can't have one without the other. The funny thing is, people will get around the main reason for gutting addons with macros so really it's just destroying everything for no reason.
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>>541126379
I'm thinking WoW is back, my friend
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And the most useless capstone talent goes to...warchuds
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>>541132623
this is just a femorc cosplaying a troll
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>>541133591
this is incredible bad outside pvp wtf
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>>541132674
i think endgame is basically fine right now. there are some minor problems but there is not any horrible fundamental issue that needs to be resolved. blizzard is jumping the gun with the addon nuke and should not have even considered it until everything they want you to be able to do is already in the official UI and has been available to the playerbase for at least one complete season. they should prove to us that they have actually made combat addons superfluous before they break them.
the game's biggest problems right now are with the casual max-level content and the story, and that's just because this last patch zone sucked balls.
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>>541133591
>literal barbarian class fantasy talent
Actual kino
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>>541132623
Ugly
UGLY
UGLY
Femtrolls are pretty, unlike this abomination
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>Or are you a bunch of kiddie diddler
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>>541133591
>cheat death is bad
ok retard
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>>541133591
Sovlfvl...
>>541132623
She's an orc not a troll
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>>541133761
Vulpera and child predators
Name a more circle ven diagram
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>>541133039
This is the absolutely worst change they every did and I see a lot of backlash, rightfully so.
Over the last 20 years tens of thousands of addon authors spend literally millions of man-hours voluntarily improving the default UI, adding customization, giving players new features, and coming up with creative new things to enhance player experience, satisfaction and making high-end gameplay more accessible. Now blizzard thinks they can scrap all of that and substitute it with slop made by their 5 in-house addon devs who are fucking terrible.
It's going to be a massive disaster.
t.addon author with 10+M downloads
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>>541133773
>cheat death
>but you have to kill your target
>no massive dr like cheat
>a fucking capstone
ok retard
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>>541133591
depends which enemies can trigger it and if all deaths count or some gigantic overkills don't
I could see it being super good for cheese
like imagine if it can trigger from any enemy, you could leave one at low hp and make the warrior die to cheese a mechanic and then kill the add
but yeah most likely it will only work from elite units and be completely useless on all hard content and only useful for delve boomer grandads
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>>541133231
They even gave him microdick tusks, what is this elder god tier emasculation...
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STOCK UI CHADS STAY WINNING
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>>541133039
well sounds retarded but theyre making healing retarded easy to play anyway.
Just sounds boring
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>>541133880
good riddance
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is this real?
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ok lads im back from a short vacation
what did i miss?
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>>541133880
Nobody cares faggot lmao
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>>541134238
they're basically killing the game
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>>541134226
TWW meta achievement probably, about time they added it.
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>>541134374
>about time they added it.
They always add those during the last .7 so the timing is right.
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>>541133876
Dracthyr and trannies.
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How are the biggest winnereds of Alpha talent changes? Who losted the biggest?
Does Demonology still summon a bunch of demons? Does Unholy DK still summon a bunch of undead? Does Enhance still get free Stormstrikes?
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>>541134508
that's two nested circles. all dracthyr are trannies but not vice versa.
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>>541134551
shaman losing bigly
bout fucking time too
FUCK SHAMANS
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>>541134551
I don't know about other classes but unholy wonned HARD now they summon even more undeads and reddit wounds are long gone
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>>541134238
>addons nuked
>classes homogenized and complexity reduced
>raids and dungeons simplified
>console version incoming
They're pretty much forcing every skilled and competent player to be dragged down to the level of braindead moron using default UI and spamming single-button rotation. If you enjoyed challenge then midnight won't have anything for you.
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>>541134508
I'd play one if I could stay in visage form in combat since they made the Dragon form look awful.
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>>541134551
Survival won bigly. They can dual wield and get a shotgun. Unholy also won a large amount as its no longer about popping zits and actually about undead and diseases
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Should I wait till more content is released in legion remix or jump in day one? got aotc and havent touched the game since
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>>541134696
There is no way a console is running a WoW raid. It's going to run at like 5 FPS
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>>541134485
not really, previously there were 4th season and they added meta before it
now there won't be 4th season
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>>541134551
I won
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>dude the game doesn't feel like a world anymore dude
>the world is dead dood
>housing adding a bunch of stuff you can unlock through professions, quests, achievements and old area stuff
>every profession can make housing stuff
>NOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
The boomers have lost.
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>>541133876
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>>541134760
survival lost tho because now you have fucking 2h and 1hs polluting your loot tables
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updated nameplates look like shit
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Iv yet to see a valid argument as to why player housing isnt just Garrisons 2.0.

Silvermoon is about to feel more empty than Dornogol
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>>541134760
>>541134905
>New Talent: Boomstick – Unload a series of 4 shotgun blasts in front of you, dealing heavy Physical damage over 3 seconds. Deals reduced damage beyond 8 targets.
bruh this is the new rogue ks
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>>541134696
>If you enjoyed challenge
No one aside from the most subhuman world fist raiding faggots wants this game to be "challenging"
>Vanilla is le heckin best version of the game!
>literal one button rotations, only 1/2 viable specs
>simplest gameplay imaginable
>DURR RETAIL IS TOO EASY
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>>541134914
Until professions can make mythic level gear I won't be happy.
Granted, it should be extremely hard to do and the materials should only appear in like high keys or delves or whatever (find a way to cap it so it can't be endlessly grinded) but there should be a progression track to this level of gear.
Make the materials soulbound if you have to to get around bots, not that Blizz cares about them anyways.
With that said, this is a step in the right direction.
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>>541134760
whered you see this?
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>every single wow website/discord/community is outraged about addon change right now
>/wowg/ celebrates it
jesus fucking christ, is this next level contrarianism or are you fucks too fucking dumb to install and configure addons?
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>>541135190
open wowhead
look for the alpha patch notes
shit bricks
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>yfw finally blizzard caves in to make the game easier for lil tardos (again)
>yfw anti-addontards where retards all along and the reason why we got prunning 3 times now
KEK
If you have
>WoD prunning
>Legion prunning
>BFA Putting every other skill on the GCD
But you also hate addons, you are delusional!
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>>541135206
the vast majority are mogsmountscheevies that worship filth
thats why
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>>541135121
>literal one button rotations, only 1/2 viable specs
Vanilla is good despite this not because of it.
Vanilla gameplay is the worst part of it for me at this point, and the primary reason I care to play Retail after they have bastardized the story so much is the gameplay but now that is being pruned.
>>541135206
If Blizzard makes equivalent ones in game what is the issue?
Of course, I don't trust Blizz do it right either so they shouldn't touch addons, but you can't deny that it is bad for the games new player appeal when they have to install and customize a bunch of addons to feel like they are on the same floor as other players.
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>>541135206
people here are correct to be annoyed at addons but are not understanding that blizzard is nowhere near ready to do this
it is going to be a complete shitshow and a bunch of healers are going to drop the game over it
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>>541135206
I only use DBM, TRP, Recount and jmorph. Addon fags can kill themselves
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am I the only one that hates the warlock hero talents and Wither replacing the og dots?
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These changes to the warrior class and fury spec trees are so fucking bad that they have to be intentional. How are Arms and Prot looking? What is wrong with Blizzard?
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New roll the bones works like this:

You press roll the bones, and you get buffs based on how many stages you roll. Higher stages also give you every previous stages buffs.

Stage 1 is always 20% sinister strike chance
Stage 2 is always sinister strike and ambush generate an additional combo point and deal more damage
Stage 3 is always restless blades is 30% more effective
And stage 4 is always 10% more crit

Ok outlaw is bussin
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>>541135141
professions already make mythic level gear using sparks and enchanted gilded crests
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>>541135691
Really? Am I just omegaRetarded? Since when was this a thing? Why don't more people do it then?
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>picks healer
>job is to heal
>"OMG WHY DO I HAVE TO HEAL BLIZZ TUNE DOWN DAMAGE"
>"OMG WHY DO I HAVE TO DO DAMAGE AS A HEALER"
maybe some spastic retards just aren't supposed to pick up healing
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>>541135540
Well, after the patch you're only going to be using TRP. Jmorph isn't an addon.
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>>541135141
>Until professions can make mythic level gear I won't be happy.
Welcome to dragonflight my nigga.
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>>541135812
The Westfall....
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>>541135403
>If Blizzard makes equivalent ones in game what is the issue?
>Of course, I don't trust Blizz do it right either so they shouldn't touch addons, but you can't deny that it is bad for the games new player appeal when they have to install and customize a bunch of addons to feel like they are on the same floor as other players.
you dont need addons for ground floor level play
hell you dont NEED addons for raid or m+, you can wing it after you die a few times to certain mechanics, obviously not having omni cd for kick tracking is going to gimp you a bit
the only place you're going to get fucking farmed is in arena
i just think its a bad argument in general
new players don't need to worry about that shit
its just a bogeyman spewed out by the internet famous roach farmer
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>>541135403
>but you can't deny that it is bad for the games new player appeal when they have to install and customize a bunch of addons to feel like they are on the same floor as other players.
That is bullshit and you know if. New player can enjoy the game with basic UI and not feel pressured to install any addons until they start doing high endgame like M+ or heroic raids, by which time they should get enough experience to be able to navigate addon ecosystem, or at least find resources that show them the ropes. And most of the addons they will require come pre-configured, like there is NOTHING difficulty in installing DBM/BigWigs, they work out of the box. There are full WA packages with everything for a given class or season. You'd have to be sub 70 IQ nigger to not be able to do this.
Anyway, the game has MUCH BIGGER problems that new players face than addons lmao.
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>>541135796
since dragonflight when they introduced the new crafting system and crests
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>>541135796
>Really? Am I just omegaRetarded?
yes
>Since when was this a thing?
DF i think, i only came back S2 of TWW
>Why don't more people do it then?
basically everyone doing serious content is doing it
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>>541135206
>too fucking dumb to install and configure addons?
no, we fundamentally and philosophically object to the idea of third party addons being neccessary to play the game. It is ABSURD that I am expected to install a bunch of shit in order to track mechanics and timers. If the timers need tracking the game should do that.
If the mechanics need and addon to be dealt with they are too complex or too obtuse.

I can install and configure addons.
I refuse to matter of principle.
The arms race between addon makers/users and the dev team has been a cancer rotting PvE gameplay for like 15 years.

It should be completely viable to do mythic raiding with no addons at all.
If it is not viable then there is a design flaw.
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>>541136015
I like it but I don't think the tabard fit
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I guess the retard who designed the antenna got promoted to design every single fucking class because everything is now "multiple stacks may overlap" fucking slop. fuck.
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>timegating early access perks
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>>541136052
>It should be completely viable to do mythic raiding with no addons at all.
i agree!
the problem is that blizzard is doing things in the wrong order. they should first make it practical to do all content using only the stock UI, and only then remove combat addons.
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>>541136171
holy kino
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If scalecommander enjoyers liked the clones then rejoice. You will get even more clones with aug apex talents.
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>>541136171
I hate that trinket and retards like to sim it with 0% miss chance thinking it's mandatory to have
when in practice a 10 lower ilvl pacemaker shits on it even on fights like frac
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>>541135521
I used to main healer and if I couldn't use Grid+Clique then I'd just stop playing healer.
Default UI has always been garbage for healing raids, and blizzard raid frames are fucking terrible.
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>worlo is unironically back
what kind of timeline is this
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>>541136171
>thing happens
>all the retards scream and drool and jerk off about it
>thing gets used more, clearly everyone love it.
this isn't some trinket designers fault its the users fault for being a pack of minmax obsessed autists who think that 1% more dps is the greatest thing to ever happen.

>NUMBER GO UP UOOOAUHAHWAH!!
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Im working from home for the next month or so whats the easiest (doesnt have to be fastest) way to farm gold so I dont have to pay Blizz full price for Midnight
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>>541131471
>Skyreach

COUNTRY ROADS, TAKE ME HOME~
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>>541136312
dating femthyr and her harem
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god i wish i were my dracthyr
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>Combat Addons Disabled in End-Game Content in Midnight

shitter bros ...... our airhorns ....
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they are actually killing wow with midnight
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>>541136268
Thats literally what they are doing with midnight.
Theyre killing the combat addons with an expansion launch so they can design the encounters with them gone.
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this dumb bitch didn't get a good look at it, but it seems like the belf pally mount is getting an upgrade?
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>>541131487
They're mad because we speak the truth. The writers were absolutely going to make her into a bigger deal than she has been, and she's probably only in Midnight because they developed it before the larger backlash came.

If they have any sense, they will shitcan her or send her back to her home continent to do dumb shit there. They set her up to be queen of everything, but with any hope she'll disappear into irrelevancy.

Or not, because Blizz hates us and wants us to look at her ugly face and listen to her terrible VA.
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>You're the retard for being against addons being removed
>the addons in question being giant "MOVE HERE" text that play the game for you
hmmm..
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I look like Assumi ;)
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i'm sure this is a common opinion but i'm not opposed to combat addons being gone, my worry is what will blizzard do to adjust for them
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/combat-addons-disabled-in-end-game-content-in-midnight-378679

This seems to imply that the combat addon purge might occur even earlier than Midnight and during the Midnight Pre-Patch which would affect Manaforge Omega.

TOTAL ADDONFAGS DEATH
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>>541136105
There's a black undermine tabard that would match it but requires revered with each cartel and fuck that
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>>541136384
I've been healing since vanilla, raid frames are fine
Mouseover macros are all you need
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>>541136495
no bitch this is gonna be amazing.
you doomposting days are over, midnight looks better literally every time we see it.

go to the hardware store and buy 40 feet of rope you faggot.
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>>541136690
that shit is pretty free with the rep buff we usually get in the small patches
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>>541131524
I actually won't even disagree with that causemy hatred of premonition is so strong.
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he won
he doesnt even play your game and ion bows to him and removed addons
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>>541136712
>this is gonna be amazing
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1nvh5c8/all_40_specs_are_being_rebuilt_with/
reddit disagrees
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>>541136534
>>541136606
In terms of boss design, the effect will literally be the same as private auras which they have already tried and failed miserably at. It's so easy to design bosses that can't and don't require addons without completely disabling the entire API.
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HEKILIFAGS
BEGONE
GET BTFO
YOU ASKED FOR THIS
LMAO
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>>541136820
>using reddit as the smoking gun
You lost.
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fuck addons lol
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>>541136490
do not worry
in midnight mythic raids are optimized for one-button rotation and 5 seconds reaction time
we're going home
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>>541136820
>reddit disagrees
Imagine fucking posting this
Imagine posting that HERE of all places.
Those dumb n iggers are literally always wrong and here you are slopping around in their sewer and reposting.

ROPE FUCKER
GO BUY SOME
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>>541136561
More evidence to me that we're going to get paladin for all races like we did with warlocks. This would be the expansion to do it
>source of light is threatened
>void is invading
>call to arms for light users across globe
>need for more soldiers for the light
>all races can already be priests
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>Ion replies: We want the game to be more like Classic WoW

VOLUMES
O
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U
M
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>>541136697
BAN MACROS
STOP UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OF MACROSFAGS
I CAN'T BE FORCED TO LEARN MACROS TO PLAY THE GAME
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>>541137006
>We want the game to be more like Classic WoW
The first step to that is removing raid difficulties and M+, not destroying addons. Classic WoW had even more busted addons than retail.
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>>541137079
Not him but you don't even need macros, you can enable mouse over in game
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>>541137006
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RUN AWAY, LITTLE ADDON CHUD
RUN AWAY!
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>>541137079
Sure, mouseover is included in the client now so that works fine by me, if you heal using any raidframe addon you didn't actually heal
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>>541137139
NUKE ENABLE MOUSEOVER IN GAME
YOU CAN'T FORCE ME TO CUSTOMIZE SETTINGS TO PLAY THE GAME
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say something nice about her
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WOW's main appeal NEVER was difficulty
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As for pesky cheaters, "if players are using third-party tools or actually trying to modify the client to get around these rules, that will come with account action, and unfortunately, we'll have to ban players who do that. We hope it doesn't come to it, but our goal really is to make sure that we're offering everything you need to have a great baseline experience in the default client.

"And yeah, for those who are looking to cheat for a competitive advantage, there will be consequences."

TOTAL ADDONFAGS DEATH
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>>541137250
Actually midnight is very customizable with the new in ame damage meter, weakaura tier skill tracker and dbm
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>>541136825
without disabling the API those simpler bosses will be literally just played by addons while players watch.

The API being castrated is specficially about targetting and denying addons that tell you what to do next.
Blizz is sick of you doing that and rightly so.
Play the game fucker.
Like I said the issue is the arms race.
Addon users/Makers/Abusers exhausted the devs patience. Everything they did someone made an addon to automate to trivialize.

The ability to make addons was extensively misused to make thing that in any other setting would be called trainers, hacks, cheats, bots.

Now the ability is being taken away.
Learn to play the game correctly, the way honest player have been all along.
I am totally uneffected by the addon purge, because I never used them in any context.
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I'm glad they're dead
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>>541137291
If not for the M+ weekly affix I'd forget she exists.
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>this one faggot having a melty because he can't install addons to play his character for him any more
kek
I can't wait for midnight to expose so many shitters.
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>>541136785
This retard is never going to play this game ever again because of A.) his pride and B.) it most likely reminds him of his mom.

You know he probably wants to just play it again for comfort sake but can't because he'll be mocked for it and because everyone knows who he is in game
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>>541137139
in game mouseover is shit
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Addons must be phased out for console edition
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Worlo? Wonned.
/wowg/? Wonned bigly.
Doomjeeets? Raped to death.
Reddit? Cucked to death.
Dawn of a new Era. Woke is dead. Worlo is back.
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>>541137345
Theres nothing they can do, they cant block discord chat bots
Eat shit retards
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>>541137356
>The ability to make addons was extensively misused to make thing that in any other setting would be called trainers, hacks, cheats, bots.
lmao you are fucking retarded subhuman brown nigger that have no idea what you're talking about
addons did what they were allowed by blizzard to do
addons used APIs that blizzard exposed to them
now they're closing those APIs
addons never did anything that blizzard didn't want them to do
addons didn't magically "hack" into the game to obtain some secret hidden information, addons only recived the data that default UI already received anyway (ever seen unfiltered comat log in your chat frame?)
you are fucking waste of human life and should kill yourself faggot because you made your parent disappointed
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>>541137463
Reduce your cursor scaling to make it more accurate
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>>541135673
>"roll the die" styled skill
>is consistent
sovlless. Outlaw should be luck based; it's great flavor. They could've fixed RtB without sacrificing the randomness. Might as well just call the skill "Super Outlaw I, II, III"
>yes I'm bitching about sacrificing flavor for optimization
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If you don't bastardize and dilute your game for other people who don't play your game to enjoy, then you are simply a gatekeeping bigot.
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>>541137654
lmao you are SO MAD that you wont have bots to play the game for you anymore.
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>>541137006
There is no possible way to make a 25+ year old game with 7+ expansions of content "like Classic"

As big as Vanilla was/is, its still moderately condensed and contained. WoW was feeling level and content strain even far back as Cata which is why they only increased level cap by 5 going forward until WoD. People moan about the world being empty and all the content being barren but literally HOW do you make all these expansions feel populated. You basically can't

Its also mainly a player issue. Players have always huddled in isolated cities even in Classic. Darnassus was famously a ghost town and in Classic SW is as well because everyone goes to IF due to it being in range of like 3 different raids
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>>541137356
Post logs
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>>541137356
This can be completely circumvented by each player just pressing a macro when targeted with an ability. Now the abilities actually designed to be calculated manually will be solved immediately and be even easier. Congratulations, you've solved nothing and made the game worse for everyone else.
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When it comes to cheaters, though? "We have rules for a reason. Frankly, this is far from the first time that we've restricted AddOn functionality. And going back 20 years, players used to be able to use AddOns like Decursive, where you could just hit a single button and it would intelligently target and dispel players in your raid based on various heuristics. We broke that functionality."

From what I can find, Decursive did indeed have its functionality kneecapped back in 2.0, the patch for The Burning Crusade.

GET FUCKED ADDONFAGS
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>>541137725
>optimization
I wouldn't even call it optimization, if you get bad luck your already shit tier dps is even unacceptable.
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>>541137729
I'm not even mad, I don't raid/m+ so I only used addons to customize UI skin and that is staying. But you are fucking subhuman idion and should not speak about things you have no idea about.
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>Decide to do the Twitch drop for the pet
>I'm apparently getting a glitched one too
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>>541137727
>people who don't play your game
Half the people that bitch and moan about every update this game gets "dont play the game". You know how many times, even in this general I've gotten into an argument with someone who clearly doesn't know what they're talking about?

Within the last 50 posts we had someone who didn't know you could craft raid ilvl gear with professions
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>>541137430
shitters already got single button rotation and in midnight they will get braindead raid design so they game will play itself for them
shitters won, you lost
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>>541137765
>>541137817
>>541137860
>autistic brown wailing
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>>541137953
eh this happens all the time with drops
just wait until they fix it
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>>541138049
>its a gray parser
Of course
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>>541135673
FUCK YEAH. That sounds like a lovely rework for Outlaw. Less RNG, more just press a button, dumbass. My concern, however, is if it's going to be like Evoker spells where I have to hold it down.

Also, B I G I R O N O N H I S D I I I I I I C K ~
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>>541138015
shitter will get shitter dps and obvious easily detectable shittermode

people who actually know what all the buttons do will be gods walking among a sea of subhuman filth.
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>>541138224
>My concern, however, is if it's going to be like Evoker spells where I have to hold it down.
That would actually be really nice to insta go into kir and blast hard.
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>>541138015
Extreme cope
Grey parse assistant will never produce acceptable performance
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>>541137847
Decursive still works if you know how. So does Emergency Monitor. The way they killed it is by removing dynamic unit frames and limiting what unit frames could do. But you can still cheese the game if you know how. They also removed autorun from macros but it still works if you know how. Kek. Blizzard are so retarded and can't fix shit. The smart players will always win. There are 3 dupe methods and 2 infinite gold bugs in the game some of which have existed for 5 years. They even added another infinite gold glitch to the game 2 patches ago.

They should just make the base ui good and disable all addons. Games shouldn't need addons and we should all be playing the same game with the same tools since it is a pvp game. or that is to say it is a dead game with pvp in it. kek
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>>541138318
it doesn't matter as in midnight grey parses will be enough to clear mythic raid
skill ceiling is being capped hard
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You'd trust me.. Right anon?
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>>541138318
I honestly don't care. If they make the game easier for people like me who struggle with understanding how to play a class like current Outlaw properly? Then hey, I don't mind.
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>>541138446
>skill ceiling is being capped hard
GOOD.
Sick of ultra sweaty asbergers havers making the game unfun for actual humans and innaccessible to people who don't want to play 10 hours a day.
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>>541138446
That's not how parsing works retardbro
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>>541138392
>if you know how
ohhh so mysterious faggot
everyone knows how, via abusing accessibility features
get fucked retard
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FFXIV WON AND WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG IN BANNING ADDONS
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>>541138641
Youre not a human youre a subhuman shitskin
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>>541138676
>he thinks he knows
keeks
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>>541126973
>Hekili died so DEI tranny devs could ship a half-assed half-baked replacement of it
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Min max raid autists fucking lost big time. About time to.
>can get adequate ilvl through delves, crafting, catalyst conversion and item upgrading
>flightstones gone
>catalyst lets anyone get a 4 piece tier set and you can get even the mythic version by upgrading
>timewalking and weekly events potentially giving out raid gear
>addons being axed
>ultimate casual time dump of housing being added
There is literally ZERO reason to do mythic raids or even attempt tranny + now.
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>>541138905
And the game is going to die
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>got 12 fresh new alts to 80
>doing leegin class campaigns on all of them simultaneously and switching when there is a timegate
>farmed leegin raids on all of them
>did tw mt on all of them
>gonna be runnin leegin mogs and leegin class titles on all of them
>in december will jump into lemix for a week to quickly grab missing rewards
>did not do a single maze/delve/manaforge in 2 weeks and it feels good
C-O-M-F-Y
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>>541127073
welp there goes my interest in maining DPS
I don't find staring at my actionbars all fight "fun"
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>>541139017
it's all of gaming that's dead. we entered Internet4.0 as of 2 weeks ago and there is no room for legacy cultures inside legacy video games. all this shit is going bye bye.
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>>541138718
No Im a white guy who plays games for fun, not as some sort of pathetic ego vehicle.
Tryhards should never be enabled they ruin everything they touch and will literally always cry for things to be made hard and more exclusive so they can jerk off about how exclusive their fucking **gameplay** is.

LITERALLY NOTHING in wow should be designed for "Professional Gamers" or their orbiters/imitators. All content should be designed to be cleared by someone who plays no more than 20 hours a week.
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>>541138897
>addons died so these subhumans don't have to design difficult encounters
grim
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>>541139108
you can just use the one button rotation if your low iq
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>>541136820
>REDDIT AGREES WITH ME
HOPE SISSYS GETTING DESPERATE TO SPIN THE NARRATIVE
DOOMGODS WON
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>>541138697
https://github.com/OverlayPlugin/cactbot/
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https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/L%27ura

Here's your final boss
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>>541138446
from what they described this will likely be the opposite
easier access and lower ceiling but more important to know how to use utilize your tools and read the boss but without hekili and raid tools to grab people by the hand. Which will result in more raids that require you to solve them using your spatial awareness, memorization, and quick critical thinking, all while doing your rotation.
basically think of xiv's el rotador filtering echo and liquid players simply by turning a platform 90degrees
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Small hits should be 3 digits and big hits no more than 4
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>>541138905
>you can get even the mythic version by upgrading
this is going away next expansion just btw
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>>541139017
>game is going to die!!!11!111?qq
>just like how the game will die and everyone will quit!!!!!11 if mage tower skins are given to me!
no it isn't top end pve faggotry is a TINY fraction of game pop and has a massively disproportionate negative effect.
If anything more people will do heroic raiding since the barrier to entry will be significantly lowered.
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>have kennie on my bnet
>too shy to ask him to do arenas
i think hes gonna say no or leave soon...
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>>541139147
shut the fuck up nigger
wow is big enough game to have both
and it successfully did
TWW was best example with delves finally giving casuals an endgame content with proper rewards
but blizzard now wants to take the challenge away from tryhards and just cater to casuals exclusively
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>>541139307
Good to know lorthemar was right
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>ADD ON FAGGOTS MELTING DOWN EVERYWHERE
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
YOU FUCKING LOST
GOODBYE DBM LMFAO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH GET FUCKED
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>>541139147
based
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don't give a fuck, gonna enjoy me some legion remix next week and housing in december. comfy times ahead, friends. life is good
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>>541139229
doomjeets are quoting reddit they have lost so hard you retard fag.
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>>541139408
>If anything more people will do heroic raiding since the barrier to entry will be significantly lowered.

So which one is it? Do addons play the game for you and make the game play itself? Or do addons make the game harder to get into? You can't have both.

How does removing the addons that play the game for you lower the barrier to entry?
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>>541139548
There's going to so much erp
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>>541139569
type this again but without crying mayesissy AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
DOOMGODS KEEP WINNING FUCK ADD ONS LMFAOOOOOO
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>erp
i just realized all the erp add ons will go away. moonguard in SHAMBLES
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>>541126152
Is Warlock still arguably the most in demand DPS in the game?
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>>541139689
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>>541139597
>anti-addon faggots think that seeing a timer bar for a boss ability and getting sound alert when it's about to hit them is "game playing itself"
don't try to understand subhumans
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Are they adding anything for old world scaling tho? Like, bringing the heroic world tiers from remix to retail, or anything? Because at 12.1 it is gonna be a 1-island game again.
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>>541139519
I enjoyed raiding in og back in thr day because it was all without addons and only a barebones dps meter, now its all automated/hacks
I dont use any addon in wow either and am lookong forward to mid***ht
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>>541139810
LMFAO
no
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>>541139806
All you need for ERP is a keyboard and a sense of spirit
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DOOMTITANS WINNING BIGLY

ADDONFAGS LOST BIGLY
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>>541139907
what is? It has to be some caster, there's a billion melee dps and a billion hunters.
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>>541139921
>you can NEVER read someone's biography again
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let me give you shitposters a look at what the next 12 months have in store for you:
the subs will bottom out to end of 9.0 numbers
the developers will oh fuck oh shit after the second quarterly report sees their asses reamed so hard you could walk an elephant up there afterwards
12.1 will see echo and liquid disband destroying the advertisement potential the race provides
and then
just like that
they will reverse on literally all this garbage they've cooked up
cap this fucking post bitch boys.
the game you want to play WILL not be a financially viable product
just go play xiv and keep your fucking nose out of where it doesnt belong
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>>541139689
>people still look for ERP when there are NSFW AI character chat bots now
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>>541139424
No it did not "successfully have both"
M+ and Mythic raid are rotten tumors upon wow PvE and Delves were added to stop the bleeding.
The moment they were added Mythic raid and M+ particpation fell off a cliff, because 80% of people were ONLY doing them because they were the ONLY source of decent pve gear.
as soon as an alternative path for gear was offered people SWARMED to it.

it is PRECISELY the toxic rancid environment of M+ and raiding that melvins rejected en masse. You don't need any addon for delves, and people love them. YOu cannot be gatekept from delves by autistic metafags and people love that.

TWW proved that M+ and Mythic raiding are Utter DESPISED by the vast majority of players and the addon purge and repudiation of "Ultra Hard" game design is DIRECT RESULT OF THAT.

people were offered a simpler game and all but the spergs who base their ego being "Pro Gamers" LEAPT AT THE CHANCE
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>>541139806
I ERP on Moonguard. I would be fine with these addons disappearing.
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>>541139991
TRP isn't going away

>>541140020
>Thinking that the cold unfeeling 'mind' of an LLM is anywhere CLOSE to a living breathing degenerate human
You bitch, you stupid bitch you just don't get it
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>>541139806
>>541139991
Combat addons are disabled you retard. Shit like TRP and tom tom will stay.
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>platform rotates
>dbm silent
>bigwigs silent
>weakauras silent
>liquid auras silent
>can't cheat with overlays because of Warden
you do have spatial awareness, depth perception, short-term memory, and cognitive processing. right anon?
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>>541140008
INVEST IN SOME ROPE
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>>541139147
No you arent white
White men are capable of learning but clearly you arent
20 hours a week is more than enough to be ina Hall of Fame guild as is but your shitskin ass cant comprehend that
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>>541136052
>LEAVE THE BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY AND THEIR DOGSHIT UI ALONE
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Good move hope sissy. Good move.

HOWEVER....
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>>541140008
this is most likely outcome
fucking faggots in /wowg/ underestimate the number of players that use addons, like addons, and WANT to play with addons
just check number of downloads on curse, it's MILLIONS per month for most popular addons
do you seriously think majority of players are against addons and will actively celebrate blizzard making their lives harder and ruining their gameplay experiece?
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>>541140197
can the wow gamer mind comprehend the 9 tile meteor intermission?
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>>541140197
Yes, I am white.
Video games were made for me.
Only browns need all that shit.
I have always found combat addons in both PvE and PvP bothersome.
the only one ive ever found useful is BGE for finding and killing pvp healers.
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>>541140197
I'll just make my own program. Warden can't detect software it doesn't know exists.
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>>541140116
>>541140169
slippery slope anon. get rekt add on chud
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>>541131997
is /orclock/ the peak chud class race combo
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Fellowship bros won
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>>541126152
>the nigga from old exiles reach was removed and replace with JainaQUEEN
HEALING...
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>>541140381
most of those DLs are people who would rather not fuck with addons but feel compelled to by norms. Blizzard is outlawing those norms, setting them free.
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>>541140425
Most of my ERP has been brief spurts of worgen rape anyway, not much backstory needed
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I can't wait to see how the game implodes in Midnight when all the precious addonzez are all gonzies and then all the shitters are going to be stumbling into the game confused & disoriented not knowing what to do or how to play the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2llPgSzh4BM
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>>541140532
based
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>>541140432
>demon jizz guzzler
200%chud overdrive class is still human male ret
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>wowg shitters who have never timed a key above 10 happy about addons getting removed
why do you speds even care about addons when all you do is roleplay or play nostalgiabait content
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>>541140532
WAAAAAT????? No fucking way! Is this real?
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>>541132552
yeah this is why i didnt want the addon autism to matter because im a maze+ cuck that heals so i dont benefit from the purge in any way and the "arms race" of raid design doesnt fucking affect me because i only do a maximum of 4/8m every patch anyway.
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>>541140532
I fuarking kneel Ion...
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>>541140553
>i s-started shooting heroin because everyone else was doing it
this is what you sound like
fucking idiot
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So are there panda druids yet or not?
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>>541140405
Post logs to prove you're doing fine without addons
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>Orcs can live in Alliance neighborhoods
It's over.
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>>541140628
the troon blizz employed to remake the ui probably can't comprehend that a disc priest would want to track atonement application there's literally no hope
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>>541140532
WE FUCKING WON
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>>541140553
>actually nobody really wants to use addons, people just use them because they feel compelled
>source: trust me bro
and that's why literally every wow community implodes with anger over this change now?
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>>541139196
>one button rotation
have you retards ever even used Hekili or are you just regurgitating the tranny wow talking points?
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>>541137356
>Play the game fucker.
>Like I said the issue is the arms race.
ive never met a good player or someone who actually does hard content that words it this way. It's like someone who """debates""" physics online but can't tell you want a Lagragian is.
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>>541140532
>Exiles Reach has been updated and improved!
>the improvement: we removed the blacks for white women
Oh nonononono gnome faggot is not gonna like that one
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>>541140586
all the same people are going to be on top because taking advantage of everything available to you is the defining characteristic of a winner
the addon purge is going to hurt mostly mid-level players, primarily healers, and in doing so will make the experience much worse for everyone. a 5-10% drop in the healer population will be fucking catastrophic for anyone trying to pug stuff.
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>>541126973
This is sad. I've been using this since I started playing in Legion and they take it away so I can stare at blinking action bars instead? Retarded.
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>>541140532
Sorry folks, WoW is a hwite game.
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>>541141043
If you cant prove that you're fine without addons then you're clearly just lying
Sorry shitskin
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>>541141048
>I have literally never actually played WoW.
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>>541140405
tons of whites have poor spatial awareness and short term memory, actually. Sorry racist-sama, only east asians and j*ws actually have a stock-standard above-average skillset there.
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>>541141038
>a 5-10% drop in the healer population
lmao more like 50-75%
healing on default ui is humiliation ritual
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>>541141048
>they take it away so I can stare at blinking action bars instead?
and it doesn't even show you all the spells at your disposal
and you can't swap between major or minor pulls
and it only shows you 1 button in your rotation at any time
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>>541141185
irish aren't white
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>>541140821
Not in mine they can't.
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>>541141038
>>541141248
Can't wait to see it!
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>game is so decadent a literal pedophile and overall disgusting person creates the OP and no one says a word
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>>541141248
it's possible that it will be much more than 5-10%, but 5-10% would be sufficient to completely fuck things up. supply shocks are a big deal even at deceptively low numbers.
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>>541141273
t. Serb
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>>541141178
I'm top dps and getting 95-100%+ parses before.
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>>541141441
people will just flock to delves
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>>541132151
Amani shit's gonna be half arsed. They already had the whole Horde vs Amani troll conflict settled off screen. What a waste of a zone and race desu
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>>541141414
old bread isn't even linked either because it was allowed to die and break continuity. this is how you know it's over.
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>>541141248
>why should we keep addons?
>BECAUSE HEALTRANNIES NEED THEM!!! IT SUCKS TO PLAY WITHOUT MY CHEATERINOS!!
Healers are such pathetic losers. Everyone in your life hates you, I promise. They really, really do. They fucking hate you.
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>>541141414
When the NA guild protects them and has jannies on stand by, yeah what can you do
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>>541141272
This is dogshitttttt. I don't think they realize how many people they are fucking over with this. They better improve the rotation helper.
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>>541141580
Nobody wants to play delves they fucking suck
The fact that blizzard had to buff the rewards sky high for Delves to get any participation should be an indictment of their quality
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>>541141414
i was banned until an hour ago
i've been busy on the arena forums anyways
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>>541141248
>healing on default ui is humiliation ritual
this. with all the shit-talking on addons - even healing a fucking classic is a shit-tier experience with default ui as a healer, let alone retail with fucktons of healer-specific mechanics, bolts, and 100x combat pace. they were talking about making healing "more forgiving" - funny how they make it complete opposite.
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>>541141176
I am not going to humor your standard, which you will simply modify regardless.

I am simply going to continue deriding you for being a shitter who needs third party tools to play the game for him.
I have played WoW in all forms of content for 20 years with essentially no addons.

I play WoW.
You play a babbified version of the game with a bunch of bullshit constantly holding your hand. Then youve had the nerve to demand harder content for your baby mode instead of just not playing baby mode. Resulting in me having to deal witha decade of unfun bullshit designed to provide a challenge for babymoders like you because you used addons to neutralize all the original designed challenges. And then when your extra layers of challenge was added you used further addons to neutralize those too. Then demanded the game be made challengiung because it was too easy after you used third party software to trivialize it. All along my game is getting more and more absurdly complex because I do not trivialize it with addons. Blizzard has humored you and you have responded with an endless cycle of addon abuse.

Now your addons are being killed, you will have to play the game like I have always played the game and you are SCREAMING about it. And you have the nerve to demand *I* prove myself.

You are the one that relies on layer and layers of automation to succeed you fucking nigger.
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>>541141248
Silence hopesissy, a doomgod is talking
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>>541141669
You arent a person
Hekili users arent people
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>>541141675
>t. Mazed Rat
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>>541141626
while we are at it why don't we remove all damage numbers dps(LFGcucks) have no need to see a ranking it's toxic
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>>541141534
and you have literally never played wow.
You have played a half automated mockery of WoW that tells you what to do.
You have literally only ever played a WoW-Trainer.
You play the game as a full time live tutorial. And then you like OMG I AM SO GOOD AT THIS TUTORIAL
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>>541141626
maybe it's finally time to REMOVE FUCKING HEALERS from the game because this role is useless and stupid and now nobody will want to play it anymore, it's the perfect opportunity
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>>541141781
If you play WoW prove it with your logs
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>Same people that have deepthroat big blizzard cock are now dooming nonstop about le heckin add ons
LMAOOOOOO
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>>541141781
>like I have always played the game
you have never played high end content you're pushing 40 and have too little brain power to track any information so it's not even relevant to you. Very interesting it's the same crowd that hates addons as the people who enjoy classic because of how braindead easy it is
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>>541135673
I still don't think this will make more people play rogue. The fundamental problem of the class is 3 melee dps specs is just aids. It takes like multiple hours to get into a m+ group.
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>>541126152
Welp, the Transmog changes completely killed my hype for Midnight. Not going to preorder.
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>>541141038
... maybe this is the perfect chance for them to justify rolling back defensives and the raw damage in the game so healers actually dont need to be able to 1 button everyone to full hp because every source of damage is a potential life-threatening situation?

People ITT keep saying these talking points about "arms races" but nobody seems to point out the issue above being one as well. And this would be the perfect chance to remedy it.
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>>541141736
>they were talking about making healing "more forgiving" - funny how they make it complete opposite.
blizzard lies incessantly about this. they will never say they want to make something less accessible, even if they do.
putting my marker down now: as measured by percentages for major milestones like AOTC, KSL, and CE 5 weeks into the season, midnight S1 will be less accessible than any season of TWW. it is possible that they will reverse course midway through the season so i don't want to tie my predictions to end-of-season stats.
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>>541142081
>waa healing is too hard
the solution is actually playing an easier mode you can handle.
If everyone can do +20s tomorrow then they don't matter anymore. Actual skill issue made into a game issue
t. healer
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>Zul'aman.
>Devs openly state there's no Darkspear or Vol'jin story for the launch.
>Decide instead of putting Rokhan in Zul'aman they've written a new plot about how Lor'themar is in the wrong for not liking the Amani, but Arator believes the Amani have a right to exist too and the chud Lor'themar is in the right.
Holy shit, these devs can't help themselves.
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>>541139108
>>541139196
I'm removing HeKili from my folder. I might as well start playing without it because it's going away forever.
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>>541142053
are they adding soloq? or any changes to lfg group forming?
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>>541142073
get rekt entitled bitch, no more delves giving mythic set for you
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>>541140532
she'll be gone from the follower dungeons soon too
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Is there a class with bigger mazie sandbags than rshamans for mythic first 2
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>>541142225
>In the right.
I'm gonna assume you meant in the wrong buddy.
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>>541142253
not that I care, but it always bothered me that as a horde character I was doing follower dungeons with a female nigger as a tank, that shit is immersion breaking
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>>541140532
>Jaina out of nowhere
Why?
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>>541142225
>Draenei get more story time than horde trolls
wonderful job metzen
HORDE BIAS ALL TIME HIGH
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If restricting addons is also in part preparing for a console release, then what the hell are they going to do about performance in raids/open world powerpoint slideshow clusterfucks? Did they address that at all?
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>>541127385
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>>541142219
>blatantly fails to comprehend the point of my argument (not difficulty btw in case you still struggle to comprehend)
>also fails to understand that "20s" dont mean anything and the highest key levels would just go up if the game got numerically easier, meaning that the percentile of good players would still distribute the exact same way
you should need to pass a basic maths test to post your opinions about the design of anything
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>>541142414
Laura Bailey needs her yearly paycheck

>>541142225
>Israel.
Lmfao
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contrarians on their way to explain how being forced to use a worse UI is actually le hecking good
actually impressive how wowchuds are suddenly all about inclusivity when they're bad at the game
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>>541142414
>1. female
>2. strong
>3. iconic
>4. still alive
>5. somewhat liked
they're pretty much out of options when it comes to available big name characters
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>>541142463
Ah the console release you mongs predicted since wod
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>>541142463
>preparing for a console release
will literally never happen.
this is just a doomjeet flog
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>>541142253
>follower dungeons with warband characters
AWWWWWW SHIET! HERE WE FUCKEN' GOOOOOOOOOO!
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>>541142242
It's not just Delves, it's M+ and even Mythic raiders too.
Good luck getting an entire set from the vault as a M+ player. Competing with legit upgrades and things like trinkets and jewelry.

And raiders? Never had a complete set even when I was doing Mythic raiding. I had to run BRF on off days while progressing HFC to get the full. And good fucking luck if you're a tank.

This is ass and you're a moron if you think otherwise.
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is there any real merit to the whole "all specs are gonna be braindead now" stuff or is that just redditor hysteria?
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>>541142548
>extremely goo pro players when they are told they can no longer automate 2/3 of the gameplay via third party software.
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>>541142554
>girlbossing from the very beginning so they can say that girlbossing has always been a thing
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>>541142662
Raids drop catalyst charges so you can transform a full raid set at end of season
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>>541142543
Arator's gonna end up being the worst character of the expansion, isn't he?
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>>541142414
>iconic and well-known waifu as a welcoming character for newcomers
vs
>random literalwho nigger
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>>541142632
microsoft is desperate to save xbox and is pressuring blizzard
wow can already be comfortably played with a controller or on steam deck
addon ban is mainly because consoles don't have easy way to get addons and blizzard won't be adding centralized addon distribution system to wow which would enable addons on console because that would be too much hassle
gameplay simplification is also for consoles
it's nowy a matter of time, last titan will probably be released on consoles
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>>541142782
>at end of season
>at end of season

Surely you see the problem?
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>>541142760
>extremely goo pro players when they are told they can no longer automate 2/3 of the gameplay via third party software.
do you actually think you're gonna be as good as imfiredup or a top rated pvper because you use the same UI as them now lmao?
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>>541142225
>>541142543
Wait I thought Liadrin was the anti-Amani chud. Unless they're doing
>amani in eversong
>lor'themar says kill them, they tortured me and blinded my eye
>arator says talk to them
>amani says their home is fucked
>arator tells the belf council their home is fucked
>lor'themar halduron and rommath says ok their home is fucked, see what's wrong and help them stay the fuck in zul'aman
>liadrin says fuck that smite them all
Then in ZA we find out why she has her britches in a bunch over the amani
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>>541142819
That's why they make a book about him
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>>541142543
>THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING ISRAEL AND PALESTINE
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO
ENJOY YOUR WOW LORE DISCOURSE FOR THE END OF TIME HORDLETS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>541142860
No thats not a problem
Until the end of season you van still get more pieces as drops
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>>541142509
>it's not about difficulty bro i just ENJOY the game being dumbed down
no matter how you spin it youre a retard asking to be catered to because you're low iq or have a slow reaction time.
>it's all relative anyway so skill expression will always exist
Not how skill expression works in anything. Do you think some boomer classic guild being world first is comparable to liquid in TWW?
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>>541142938
>Christie Golden
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>>541142782
great, how does this help my alt who definitely won't have a full set of mythic gear by the end of the season?
we already have exclusive appearances for people doing mythic raiding or pushing M+ score (or rated pvp). they're tied to your account rather than a particular character. that's a good thing.
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>>541141248
if you can't heal well with the default UI you are the problem
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>>541142925
Lor'themar's going full chud and saying Zul'aman belongs to the Blood Elves.
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>>541141981
based
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>>541143065
post RIO
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>I-I can only play WoW if I configure it to shout shit at me and dangle sparkly popups in my face!
>I need my UI to look like a scfi RTS!
>I NEED TO PLAY SIMON SAYS! RIGHT NOW!
>IOOONNNNN!!!! ALTER COURSE! ALTER COURRRRSSSEEE!
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>>541143056
>we already have exclusive appearances for people doing mythic raiding or pushing M+ score
No its handed out for free from low m+ keys and the mythic mog already has the effects by default.
If you want mythic mog play the game on your alt, else it doesnt get it.
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>>541143069
>scurrying back to Zul'Aman where they belong
He is going half chud. They mentioned Liadrin going full chud over the Amani during the Gamescom reveal. Also Tor'Watha is like ENE eversong, far away from ZA.
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>>541142867
>fagballs missing the point entirely
and making my point for me
that whats really going on here is a bunch of mediocre players solving the game with addons and then jerking themselves off for having solved the game with addons.

If you were actually any good this change would not concern you.
You are butthurt because your ego is entangled in being "Good at WoW" and you know that without all your crutches you ego will be deflated, because you are not "Good at WoW" You are propped up, and without your props you will be unable to maintain the illusion, even to yourself.
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>>541143069
>>541142225
BAAL GONNA FREAK
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>>541143230
>No its handed out for free from low m+ keys
so is myth gear! 10s aren't hard and 2500 is just a little below all 10s. i don't want to do 8 keys every fucking week on every fucking character. right now i don't have to. in midnight i would have to.
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>>541126973
Either they will simplify all classes or rotation bots will see another resurgence.
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What's the point of having the Amani and Blood Elves settle their beef off screen, then proceeding to write a questline about how our glorious son of two worlds Arator shall redeem them and explain to Chud'themar that they are people too?
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>>541142985
if you wanna just make it a dickmeasuring contest post your io to qualify your appeal to authority. You're probably higher than me, im a casual goober that peaks 3200 on memespecs every season so if you really grind a lot you are probably much better than me. But I'm not wrong and the trend of the game's design since DF has been downhill in my opinion, not everything is a "difficulty" issue. If they cant engineer forms of difficulty that don't involve constant snapshot triage healing that's a developer issue.
>inb4 then why dont they just remove the defensive bloat and lower healer output/damage out put
Because they openly admitted the current standard satisfies them because it heavily benefits open world/delve content players and nuking defensives back to a pre-DF state would utterly flip the board on that front of design which they dont want to do, and if the rest of the game has some "friction" (their wording) then that's a win from their perspective.
>Do you think some boomer classic guild being world first is comparable to liquid in TWW?
No and nothing in my post indicated that but you assumed that's what I meant because you're a retard that can't read the only fucking language you speak.
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>>541143164
retard
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so what's gonna be the new /wowg/ boomer cope when they're still shit at the game in midnight? other players are too good at customizing their in game settings? it's unfair how effective their keybinds are?
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>>541141921
You're so retarded it's not even funny. There is no difference between looking at the wa's or looking at the addon
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>>541143268
retard how are some better nameplates and scrolling combat text gonna solve shit for you
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>>541143268
>projecting
>projecting
>more projecting
brother idgaf if they ban addons tomorrow the only thing I use is baseline in the UI anyway for a CD manager. Nothing you can say can change the fact that no normal person gets as upset as you are over fucking addons in a videogame going away
>n-no YOU'RE seething
uh huh sure bro keep typing up essays then bud
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>>541143069
TrollCHUD here
Lorthemar is based and he should entertain the rivalry and not bury it like a faggot
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>>541142225
>in BfA the Amani pretty much got WORLD QUEST'D for trying to protest Zandalar joining the Horde since that means they are contemporary allies with the Blood Elves
>now for the first time in wow history where they get a narrative focus, they get treated as pitiful sops again instead of the actually capable warriors (as long as m*gic isn't involved)
Just let them get drakkari'd at this point this is beyond embarrassing
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>>541143578
Yeah honestly we need MORE of this type of conflict instead of less. But I have a feeling by the entire of the expansion everyone is going to be best friends.
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Keep seething addoncucks
day is coming
I will be totally unaffected by it.
Nothing will change for me.
But you will be forced to either git gud or git used to lower accomplishments.
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>>541143692
>MY HEALING FRAMERINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSS
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>We are also reviewing the amount of concentration or "cognitive load" required to play each spec
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>>541143268
You fail to understand one important thing. I speak for myself, but I'm sure it's like this for many other players.
I DON'T FUCKING CARE about jerking off to solving the game and being as good as top 1%, I just want to have fun and play the game comfortably. I only do delves and mountsmogscheevos and mid level mythic keys.
Addons give me a lot of nice things to make my life easier and help me have fun in the game without being forced to tryhard and sweat, because I don't care about tryharding and becoming some kind of raiding/m+ god. I just want to play the game my way.
Blizzard will take away all my quality of life addons and improvements I setup over the years. They will literally ruin my gameplay experience, and I don't want to learn to play from scratch on default UI because that won't be fun. This is the end of WoW for me.
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>>541143785
You would have to play the game to be affected
But clearly you dont
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>>541143861
Does it mean each spec is gonna be a BM or Ret now?
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>>541143069
So they're gonna kill him off, then...? This reads like the dialogue of an "evil villain".
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>>541144004
Yes just look at what they did with rogues
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>>541143938
Good, now you will only play low level mythic keys, as you should have from the start. Working as intended.
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>>541144004
most of the playerbase are entering their 40s and 50s and they just can't keep up with complexity in a computer game anymore
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>>541143487
>proud of 3k
point made
>>541143434
>you're probably better than me(but you're grinding more)
if i can get to 3.3k my first season ever playing wow pugging as a healer i think the average casual shitter who's been playing wow for 20 years can figure out how to install addons.
>that wasn't my point
you mentioned that percentile stays the same for exactly that reason without understanding how "raw skill" distribution can be different among the same percentiles. I don't know who defeated the lich king or whatever the fuck since i didn't play the game but they would be in the same percentile as liquid and you can obviously tell it's incomparable.
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>>541144031
>horde leader
a named horde character has died in every single expansion since legion so yes
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>>541144123
>point made
goalpost
healers that require addons are retards.
TOTAL ADDON DEATH
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How the hell are we hearing about Arator doing shit in every zone and not even a hint of Thalyssra. I don't even like the character, but you'd think they'd talk about Lor'themar's wife even just a little. Is she gonna pull a Baine and AFK in the Horde quarter of Quel'thalas all expansion?
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>>541142414
She's basically the deuteragonist of Warcraft so it makes sense to get new players familiar with her.
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>>541144050
No, I won't play the game anymore, simple as. Not because I would have to do lower level keys, but because addons made playing the game fun. Now it won't be fun even if I could start doing high level keys or mythic raids.
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>>541144261
if you're proud of 3k i don't think you should call anyone retarded
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>>541144316
Ok bye
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Horde leaders dying and Horde being shit canned story wise is revenge for my original Vanilla experience
>wanted to play paladin in high school
>all IRL friends were Horde
>forced to play Horde to interact/play with friends
>Horde ruined an expansion because of Blood Elves
Death to no shoes
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>>541144268
>the guy was literally just sitting there a whole expansion
fuck, now i remember
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>>541144358
if you can't heal without addons you are braindead, learn to use marcos dumbass
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>>541144268
The devs have quite literally stated multiple times they do not like writing Horde characters at all. Golden has talked about how much easier it is to write humans than orcs, which is her reasoning why thrall is a good guy because he was raised by humans
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Worlobucks lost. FellowshipGODS won.
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MASSIVE SPOILERS
>Alleria gets void corrupted and is the final boss of the Voidspire
>L'ura (the dark naaru she got her powers from) is the final boss of March on Quel'danas
>The Army of the Light go bad and become the "Lightblinded." Lotraxion is a dungeon boss
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>>541143938
>Blizzard will take away all my quality of life addons and improvements I setup over the years.
this is actually the biggest blunder they're doing by failing to address this most basic issue, it's so common to have players run fully customized addon setup they've build throughout the years, and it will all be nuked, no wonder people are getting mad
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>>541144493
i use pvp binds to heal in m+, the addons are for tracking buffs. If blizzard told you they would cut off a fingernail each time you wanted to check your hp you'd thank them like a cuck
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>>541144247
A named horde character has died in every xpac since wrath.
Wrath: Saurfang Jr (a stretch but introduced in TBC)
Cata: Cairne (leader, prepatch)
MoP: Nazgrim (a stretch but built up since cata)
WoD: Garrosh (leader)
Legion: Vol'Jin (leader)
BfA: Rastakhan (leader)
SL: Garrosh (superdead), Sylvanas' evil side (stretch)
DF: The old tauren the three amigos helped out in WC3 (a stretch but he was a pre-WoW character)
TWW: Gallywix (leader)
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>>541144647
Based. Now WoW can go back to focusing on fun instead of """balance""" and the wishes of sweats
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>>541144647
>TWO MORE WEEKS
Literally
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>>541144647
Does it have slutmogs and cute female space goats?
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>>541144869
they're probably even
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>>541141820
When subs drop lower than ever I guess all us fake people will matter then.

>>541141921
Mad I'm better than you? I'll learn to play without this but its still cringe to take it away. I'll just play much fewer characters.
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>>541144835
Does Nathanos count for BFA or SL?
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>>541144849
>sweats impact casual play
every game has people saying this and it makes no sense, how does a 5% damage decrease impact your roleplaying enjoyment?
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>housing are islands off the shores of Stormwind, not in Elwynn

GRIM
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>>541145000
SL since you need to have it to kill him
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People unironically use "rotation helpers" for the dumbed down shit in this game?
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>>541145000
Ah shit i forgot about danuser's self insert. He counts as SL because he got got in the prepatch, just like Cairne.
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>>541144247
>>541144835
Why all the dead characters are male?
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>>541144652
>finally getting rid of that annoying troonbitch
wait.. WE ARE WONNERING
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>>541144652
so xal'atath becomes good guy?
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>>541143952
I play nearly every day, I have every class at 80
I am simply not going to give you a vector to ad-hom me
all you will have is my argument

anything I post you are going to twist in attempt to discredit me instead of refuting what I have to say.

Now lets see if you have enough self control resit twisting the fact I have every class leveled into some sort of fault to be attacked.
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>>541136820
Reddit loves all the woke shit and lore rape as well.
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>>541145119
Because any time a character like Jaina got put in any actual danger, the fans freaked out and said no.
So now we're still stuck with the likes of Tyrande, Jaina, Azshara, Alleria, Sylvanas, Malfurion, etc etc all lingering awkwardly around.
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is silvermoon the new horde capital yet?
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>>541144493
macros are mini-addons retard, learn to play without them
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same crowd who'd shit on apple phones are now supporting addon removal
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>>541144869
If you already have the item regardless - just join random key and look at your numbers.
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>>541137654
Gigabased beyond belief
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>>541145301
I hate these "fans" so much.
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>>541145318
>included in base ui
>addon
?????
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>>541144835
Wait a minute what about Kael in TBC? I know he himself wasn't ever officially affiliated with the Horde but with such an important character I guess at the very least I could see an argument.
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>>541145105
poast logs
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>>541145458
base ui doesn't come with any macros, same as it doesn't come with any addon
you can however create a macro yourself in a same way you can create an addon
addon is LITERALLY big macro
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Now that Hekili is dead and the "One Button Helper" is an absolute joke in comparison...

Can I use something like the built-in "Cooldown Manager" so I'm not forced to look at my bars the entire fight?
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>>541140197
>boss attacks
>addon doesn't tell me to run little girl run
HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW I HAD TO DUDGE THE METEORITE??
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>>541145541
ok
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>>541145528
Kael fucked off to outland way before the belves joined the horde. Even when he came back before SWP he spazzed out and tried to summon KJ thru the lightwell.
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>>541145585
Wait, you guys look at your bars while you fight?
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>>541145585
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24226697
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If you are against addons but for macros then you are a hypocrite.
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>>541145541
It doesn't matter. I could be a grey parsing keyboard turner and it would still be embarrassing to use them
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>>541145585
its called learning you class and developing muscle memory

try it, shitter, the rest of us have been doing this for years and years when we said addons were a crutch that made you shit at the game this is what we meant.

you dont actually know how to play your class, you know how follow instructions from an addon.
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>>541145568
what is this cope?
Gear isn't equipped by my base ui for me, guess gear is addons. you're a fucking dipshit lmao
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>>541145770
>>541145692
imagine pretending to be another poster in a 4chan thread
i don't even know which one of you it is!
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>>541145839
sub 70 iq brown post
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>no maye posts
>no femthyr posts
what happened?
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>>541145917
no argument
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>>541144123
>he thinks im comparing pre-DF m+ design to the fucking lich king
Okay I think we were just arguing for completely different things, my bad. have a good one
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>>541145119
>>541145301
To be fair for a long while Jaina and Sylvanas were the only relevant female characters
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>>541145945
Too busy defending a bad expansion to avatarfag
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>>541145742
keep seething shitbird
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>>541145945
i think femthyr is 3day banned he'll be back soon i hope :(
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>>541145837
>its called learning you class and developing muscle memory
yeah that doesn't tell me when buttons are off cooldown or procs are up you stupid jackass
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>>541144652
No fucking way. We are so back.
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>>541145945
I thought maye jumped ship to FFXIV
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>>541146034
You look at your cooldowns and look at your buff bar while keeping up focus on everything else that is going on, retard
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Brazilian from Azralon here. AMA.
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>>541145839
nigger, it's the truth, addons are macros without character limit
if macro didn't have 255 characters limit you could make DBM in a macro and run it by pressing the button
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If they're gonna push Arator so hard this expansion and give him some big arc about having to prove himself to the legacy of his father, then proceed to have Alleria go void bitch as a raid boss in which we all know she'll just get better.
Then they should have Turalyon killed off by the end of Eversong.
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>>541146039
How?
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Is "TellMeWhen" going in the add-on purge?
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>>541146139
you know macros and addons use different API right?
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Just a reminder guys anything is cheating and a crutch if I dont use it.
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>>541145713
well depending on the spec, if you don't have a hud what else can you do? some procs don't have one of those aura art things, some don't even glow or have any indicator whatsoever like sudden ambush and they are rng so you can't muscle memory them
if you wanted to play feral without 3rd party tools right now you'd have to stare at your buff bars
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>>541146261
Tellmewhen is still a thing?!
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>>541146101
So why is it bad if I have an addon that just puts this information in more convenient spot on the screen? It's already available in the game.
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Is it dead game general yet?
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demon huntchads....how the fuck are we winning AGAIN next expansion
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I want to have sex with all the male worgen and fem worgen in the thread
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>>541146397
Stickney needed a new way to force her Void Elves. DH just benefited by this.
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>>541146397
We're just built different.
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>complex rotation trannies btfo
>addoncheatertrannies btfo
>esportstrannies btfo
>healertrannies btfo
Midnight is the greatest expansion of all time.
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delvebros and mountmogcheevchasers... how do we stop winning? i mean, it's cool... but i'm getting tired..
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>>541145036
Its not the % that matters its the "fun" shit that gets removed because it doesn't fit the e-sports model. Gladiator stance was removed because it didn't fit the model, Bandages was removed because it didn't fit the model, Hunter pet spec got removed because it didn't fit the model, ect, ect.
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>SEF gone
>SV gets dual wield
>rogue stealth dps windows gone
>unholy wounds gone

melee chuds we are ALL going to make it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZE1Fh1AgWQ&
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>>541146336
BECAUSE ITS JUST CHEATING OKAY!!! I DONT USE IT SO ITS CHEATING
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>>541146295
lol no they don't you low iq clueless pajeet
macro can do everything that addon can do
addon can do everything that macro can do
they use same API
stuff like /cast is just an alias, in an addon you create a button with SecureActionButtonTemplate and you can also cast spells with it
in a macro you can do /run and execute any lua code
it's literally the same thing, macro is just limited to 255 character thus not suitable to anything complex
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>>541146529
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>>541146239
Because we are so back.
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>>541146585
i just recently joined petsmountsmogscheevos hood - feels good
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Playing Alliance is objectively cheating because you're constantly receiving outside help from Blizzard.
The only legitimate way to play the game and do content is as Horde.
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>>541146315
TELL ME WHY I'M STUCK AS A VIRGIN WITH RAAAGE
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>raid lead: sorry anon I can't solve this mechanic for you, and we can't auto assign it with weakauras... call it out in comms or get benched
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>>541146726
fuck yeah
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>AMANI ARE CALLING BELFS SIN'OISTS
AMANI ARE CALLING BELFS SIN'OISTS
>AMANI ARE CALLING BELFS SIN'OISTS
AMANI ARE CALLING BELFS SIN'OISTS
>AMANI ARE CALLING BELFS SIN'OISTS
AMANI ARE CALLING BELFS SIN'OISTS
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>>541146585
Anon delvecucks got cucked hard...
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>>541146585
>he doesnt know
todays information was 9/11 for melvins, bro....
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>>541146585
>he doesn't know
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>>541146261
yes :(
>>541146315
it's very comfy alternative to gigabloated weakauras
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>>541146529
Can't wait to see her get knotted.
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>>541146585
Ion announced that Delves aren't an End Game Pillar anymore bro.
Max made the call, Ion caved.
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>>541144652
oh man i can't believe glup shitto is gonna be a raid boss.
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>>541146529
When are we getting an Abbendis model?
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>>541146639
>Destruction's fantasy is reaffirmed as Sargeras' power archetype with portal, fel and fire through it's Apex talent
>DK's Apex reinforces it's necrotic spell casting vibe and it's rotation now allows to always summon pets
>Blood is getting better Rune weapons
>SV Dual wield
>Frost mage gets ice hands
>Augvoker gets to summon 3 squadron and can buff an ENTIRE raid now
>Devoker 2 squadrons
Doomjeets fucking lost no wonder doomposting reached a new high, wow won
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkTt9k4Y-a8
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>>541147004
>anymore
Never was
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>>541144652
>le LIGHT is le BAD guy now too....
predictable but boring nonetheless
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>>541145945
femthyr posted a booty so fine the janny had to hand out a 3day
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>>541147139
I know right
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>>541147004
they were THAT butthurt over one of those delve trinkets from s1 being bis
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>>541144652
Oh no. Not Alleria. I'm sure she's actually at risk and I should be invested in this shocking twist of her being a raid boss.
Just like Jaina
Mekkatorque
Anduin.
Oh poor Alleria
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>>541147139
>titans bad
>void bad
>light bad
>elemental lords bad
>old gods bad
>panda girls best girls bad
they cant keep going with this!
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>EotS going back to normal in Blitz
FUCKING FINALLY
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>>541147134
>Never was
Tell that to Blizzard's marketing team leading up to War Within. They were once pushed as end game for casuals but that shit clearly changed when blizz saw how much of an affect it had on M+ during season 1.
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>finally got warglaives for tbc timewalking next month
>i'm probably playing annihilator in midnight so thematically the warglaives won't match
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Who is even excited for this shit?
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>>541147495
They are still importante for shitters tho? You can't unlock mythic tint but that's the only difference between tww s3 and midnight s1
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>>541146639
SEF?
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>Doomgods defending blizzard
>Hopegods attacking blizzard
confusing times
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>>541147634
me
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Anything cool for Affliction Warlocks in Midnight Alpha so far?
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>>541147643
storm earth fire for windwalker, one of the buggiest pieces of shit ever and finally got axed
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>>541147508
Get the heroic soul hunter glaive for devourer.

>>541147643
Storm earth and fire.
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>can't unlock mythic tint now
>expect everyone to do overtuned mythic raid+

GRIM
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>>541147640
yeah but that's the big reason people liked Delves was being able to earn mythic transmog solo over the course of the season. The point is that it was slower, but you could still get the transmog if you put in the time.
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>>541147741
The only people shitting on Blizzard are the niggers that are TOTALLY dependent on addons to do anything
I've been playing since Legion and never fucking used WA and still got KSH & AOTC without any struggle, anytime I get in keys with people I meet ingame they feel forced to send me their retarded WA package which I always uninstall the second screen sharing is off.
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>>541147950
That's just not true, you couldnt unlock the mythic transmog during s1 and people still loved delves.
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>>541148020
i like my healing frames and i dont give a fuck that they use the same api that liquid reminders and other raidnigger nonsense does, simple as
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max didnt like delves dropping good rewards so they had to go, it was only a matter of time
be happy they are at least keeping them as fun casual side content
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>>541148165
Aesthetic frames shouldnt change in all this
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>>541148020
>TOTALLY dependent on addons to do anything
described a good 90% of the playerbase
/e made this post in 40 seconds thanks to RestedXP {Diamond}
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>World of Warcraft Classic: Why No MMO Will Ever Replicate Its Legacy
https://www.indiekings.com/2025/09/world-of-warcraft-classic-why-no-mmo.html

it's safe to say there will never be a game like og wow again simply based on how the average person is in modern times and how modern internet also is used, if wow classic released today nobody would play that shit
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>>541148165
Healing frames
Addons are not getting deleted but anything that needs combat data will be affected
Maybe there is a way for you to bring it using other tools
>>541148226
Kek'd
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>>541148165
well you better start liking default raidframes
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>>541148195
I missed this. What exactly did they say is happening to Delves?
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>>541148195
Again, you get the same heroic gear and crests as before. Delvecucks please just drop the victim complex.
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>>541148020
bruh, I regularly do high level mythic keys and nobody ever send me WA, stop larping
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>>541148224
all addons are gone for stuff like m+, they all use the same thing to function so you cant have one without the other unfortunately

not that im surprised, i knew this was implied when they announced it initially, i just hate raidniggers now more than ever is all
>>541148337
honestly wouldn't even mind if it blizzard's design tastes weren't hideous and revolting, and their customization options for individual auras on people weren't terrible. they'll probably improve the mechanical aspect but nothing can make the visual clarity/sheer aesthetic aspect improve on blizzard's end
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>>541148020
I usually just watch TLDR boss guides and try to do the mechanics. I'm glad they're gutting WA, as long as they make Outlaw Rogue simpler to understand. That way I'm not having to figure out what to do every pico-second just to do sub-optimal DPS.
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>>541148020
bruh, I regularly do high level mythic keys and nobody ever send me WA, stop larping
WITH THAT SAID DO NOT GET RID OF ADD ONS BLIZZARD I NEED ADD ONS RIGHT NOW I NEED THEM I NEED TO USE THEM NOT THAT IT WOULD EFFECT ME BUT I NEED THEM TO REMAIN UNCHANGED
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>>541148338
You can't unlock mythic tints with heroic and for some reason we have to blame max because...
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>>541148195
This post just got screenshotted and is being shared about in the wowg defense force discord. You're so toast now that you dared made fun of Max, King of Warcraft.
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I read the healing changes and i feel like nothing REALLY changes looking at the trees. Mythic raid looks like it will still be revolving door of CDs but the twist is you are more likely to 4 heal fights you would have 3 healed this xpack.
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jaina should get her breasts out
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>Havoc rework
FUCK ME, this is ret tier change I fucking hate it.
Netherwalk (the immune 3min cd) is gone and instead using Blur (the normal defensive 1min cd) also gives you immune for 2.5sec. AKA HEY HAVOC PLAYER GO SOAK MECHANIC, fuck you nigger let me dps.
Essence Break which was one of the major damage spell was completely changed, before it was a damage spell + modifier that would boost damage of your next main spells during 4sec, it would take account of all the previous modifier so you had to align multiple spells correctly to get the maximum of Essence Break. NOW ALL GONE, they made it as a normal damage spell because retards couldn't read the spell and pressed whenever it was up.
No more single stun, fuck that right? little andy wasn't using it anyway
All the ground sigils were removed and sent back to the tank spec
A lot of spells were removed and put as passive now

We are literally going back to SHADOWLANDS gameplay tier, everything good that came out in Dragonflight & TWW is slowly getting removed.
From what I have seen, they removed at least 5 spells in the bar.

The worst part is the hero talent Aldrachi needs a full rework because of the sigil removal, the gameplay was based on generating souls from the sigil and others way to use it but they removed every single thing that would generate them.

I swear to god they are making the spec more ret & bm friendly again for the newcomers who will try the new spec.
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>>541145837
playing meme content doesn't count as playing your class
i can also first time arcane mage in my level 1 delve with a blindfold on and no addons very impressive
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>>541132496
to be fair the last time belves had focus in the story was sort of in legion during suramar and before that in mop with the garrosh quests
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>>541126973
wtf is hekili? in 19 years playing this game, never heard of it
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>>541148484
don't worry, it only took them 8 expansions to implement an option to MOVE UI ELEMENTS
in another 8 expansions maybe they will add some customization to raidframes, have hope friend
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DELVES BIG DOOBY DOOD BIG DOBBY WE NEED TO SELL MORE M RAID RUNS TO PAY BACK OUR 200,000 USD GOLD LOAN DOOD HUGE DOBBY GET RID OF DELVES NOW ION
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>>541148648
Sorry bro you gotta play devourer now
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>>541148645
>changes hots from heal amps to actual HOTS
>now instead of ramping heal amps... you ramp the same hots for the hot
in their own words they wanted to tune down ramping, makes zero sense
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>>541148729
the addon that babysits retarded boomer grandads into what to press nextso they don't get outdps by the tank
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>>541148404
I meant when I meet people ingame and we move to cord or something to key it up.
>>541148490
Players nowdays are retards.
and need everything handed to them.
The same retards that cry and whine that the game is too easy are the same ones that beg and plead for addons to remain
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>>541148729
Imagine there was an add on where you just pressed one button and did max dps every time and never had to worry about managing CDs or anything ever
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>>541148530
Is that all? You can't get the mythic tint from hero track gear anymore? THAT is what you autists are screeching about?
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>>541148870
didn't they just add a one button rotation thing though?
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>>541148870
>the addon crowd is actually the boomer dadgamers
the lack of self awareness is crazy
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Melvin Delvins were just too powerful.
It made mazed rats, world first trannies and ion himself seethe.
Well I still refuse Ion.
I'll never step into a raid above LFR.
I'll never step unto a dungeon above follower.
It's what Brann would've wanted.
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>>541148951
yes, the trashcans who only do lfr+heroic+timewalking dungeons are crying about being unable to buy myth gear with the dinars and are now crying about their heckin mythic transmog sets
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>>541148951
Yes and instead of shitting reddit and social media they are bitching itt blaming some random faggot instead of blizzard. They are very smart.
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Ion is actually gonna do it, he's gonna mimic xiv type boss design and it will make so many shitters seethe because they can't spin things in their brains, the average wow player can't even visualize an apple in their mind...
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT THE SPEC IS UNIRONICALLY SAVED
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>>541149083
ok max, mount hasn't dropped from your asian babe yet?
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how did addon haters manage to download wow that's actually food for thought
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>>541149003
zoomers dont use hekili they use weakauras to blindly solve fights so they can zoomax their button pressing
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>>541149003
cope and delude
each new version of DBM and WA gets 2M+ downloads
that's a lot of boomer dad gamers, maybe we're all boomer dad gamers after all?
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>>541149145
Only if they removed 2h from the loot tables.

>>541149180
Good goy! Blizzard did nothing wrong.
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>>541148852
Devourer gameplay is based on picking up void orbs to cast a giant star, like a normal cast you can cancel it when moving. But if you cancel it, all the orbs you have collected are now gone, this isn't a bug because you can only do during meta and the meta timer is based on your energy, casting the star stop the timer, blizzard doesn't want you to fake cancel all the time to pause the timer.
Gameplay of Devourer is fucked too
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guys how come nobody told me if I just install a plater skin the game will pilot itself to Cutting Edge
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https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/1nvemos/combat_addons_disabled_in_endgame_content_in/
SWEATY RAID FAGGOTS ARE FUCKING SEETHING AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>541148951
It's a principle thing. They already fucked up and let the cat out the box. Trying to walk it back now of course is gonna have people giving them shit for it.
Surprisingly, most people don't like being given something for an expansion and then told they can't have it again the next.
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>>541149083
>blaming some random faggot instead of blizzard
Max is the only person Blizzard bends the knee to. For better or for worse. Literally no amount of screaming from the community or other content creators does anything but Max causes instant changes every time he so much as farts on stream.
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>>541149145
>daggers
Hahaha roguebros, your guaranteed loot in the raid is now gone
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>>541149083
they actually do shit other places as well, get out of your bubble
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>>541149349
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so the thing is i wonder how dps rotations will be now in midnight if instead of:

>4034043037894 buffs and procs to track

if its not going to be like xiv's rote static rotations either
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>>541148971
that shit adds a delay and is very very bad in real world scenarios, shills like to say it performs ok but only in a patchwreck vacuum, the second you have to make minuscule decisions, cleave or aoe timed attacks it drops dead in the water
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>>541149236
yea when i think of people without addons i'm picturing really high io mythic raiders and not roleplaying classicfags
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>>541149349
>This is easily the worst change they've ever made in WoW. People are entirely reliant on these addons because the game has become so complex.
redditors legit aren't human
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>>541149380
That's cool but at some point you have to understand no one gives a shit about delves, you get two random shitty heroic items every week. The heckin raiders are not trying to destroy delves, they don't give a shit about the meme soccer mom mode.
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>>541149343
bruh I couldn't get a spot in LFR but after installing DBM and WA I got invited to HoF guild and we just killed dimensius last week while I wasn't even logged into the game but I got CE anyway, addons are just TOO POWERFULL
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>>541147176
link?
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>>541148859
I just think if disc priest/pres evoker exists as this sort of tops your raid every 1min30 healer (stasis evange), you have 4 healers you can do that every 30seconds. Obviously they might just buff everyones hp by 2x and then suddenly things start working abit better, but on the face with these changes that are currently presented nothing REALLY changes (people complained about healing being CD plans since like legion+).

Basically I just think its like a step in the right direction if hero talents were a step in the wrong directions for healing. I don't see it as a silver bullet. The real big W of the healing changes is the baseline power increase of abilities because that was a HUGE issue and basically shaped how healers heal, now rdruid MIGHT(hopefully) not be like 50% regrowth healing.
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You guys need to understand something about WoW and it's players.
WoW players are the most complacent fucking retards in the entire MMO industry, they will crave change, but shudder the second change comes.
They just want reasons to be mad, reasons to complain, at first it was TBC dailies, then it was attunement, then it was dungeon finder in wotlk etc.. etc...
They desire their game to get better, but refuse to accept what needs to happen for it to be.
It's the reason some people are stuck playing classic forever, unable to experience anything outside of their comfort zone.
These rotting vegetable have been updating Details, DBM, bigwigs etc... for 10+ years, and suddenly Blizzard realized that only crummy baby boomers actually care about it and that it drags potential fresh blood away.
And so they made the smart decision of updating their game to be more readable while removing retarded third party needs.
Don't bother arguing with people seething at the loss of addons, they're unable to quit their comfort zone.
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>>541149349
>Bigwigs beeps and boops are all I want. Just a little boop and my brain will solve it like Palovs dog.
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>>541149343
its because you need the $5 UI one from a streamer, sorry if you didnt get the memo
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>>541149809
GET DOWN! A DOOMFIRSTONE IS COMING IN WITH A SLAM DUNK TANK
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>>541149809
WATCH OUT WATCH OUT WATCH OUT
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I read the weakaura changes but really nothing changes for like 90%+ of mythic raid. Are people really this melty about addons?
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>all your blizzard manager HUDs and binginbwahoo configs will be server saved
we fucking won mobilegamers
we can just install wow on any pc and be ready to game
no need to copy WTF folders and back shit up
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>You guys need to..
Stopped reading right there
Don’t care
Plus your mom
Eat this knot
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>>541150295
is this ai?
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>metzen comes back
>very first expansion under his belt already has a corruptionkino storyline
we
are
back
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGcvWICMXWw
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>>541149809
N-no....
W-WoW players are......
W-w-w-w aren't....
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>>541150407
Nah fuck shitzen
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>>541149840
These people see nothing wrong with retards sharing weakaura packs so they can progress raids or the shotgun blasts and slipping on banana peels sound effects whenever mechanics happen. Have they even watched a high end streamer play this game? Their screen most of the time is a mess
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>>541149618
Max has a reason to kill delves for high end players. It gives one less chore for their rwf retards to do on each of their 20 characters.
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>>541149387
rogues need ranged spec now to make things fair
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>>541150445
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>541149618
Yeah no fuck you nigger, I like my delves with Brann and now Valeera. Good way to gear characters too
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guys QUICK op it before pandaslopper does!!!
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>>541150678
>no more fucking brann niggerbeard in midnight
thanks fucking god, I hate this midget after TWW
I actually got an ADDON to mute all his voice lines because he got so fucking annoying
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>>541150514
Not really, they run 8 during pre-season (only this season because it was a new addition) running delves it's a massive waste of time for them.
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>>541150237
I want to lick every inch of her body
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>>541149618
anon getting one set piece from delves week0 is huge, it's often a deciding factor for which of the 30 alts they gear up end up being used for the next step in gearing
max dislikes that that's why he once mentioned on stream he would prefer if set gear didn't drop from delve vault
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>>541150237
Oh my god please make nude slop for us just add it to catbox or something
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>>541150912
Why don't you post the clip? He said the that was a good change this season and the only reason to run delves and only during pre seaosn
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>>541149809
But does WoW actually get fresh blood? I don't think so. They're basically fucking over the boomers who still bother to log in every week to raid for no real reason.
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>pandafag politely warning he's OPing next thread
>no one cares
>he still hasnt and could if he wanted too
god it really is one hyper assmad schizo samefag throwing shade at him & femthyr
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>>541151068
>But does WoW actually get fresh blood?
no
they're desperate to attract zoomers, but zoomers don't care about wow, actually nobody cares about MMOs anymore
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>Blizzard has taken a step forward by removing add-ons.
>People hate it and are angry about it.
The question is: how is Blizzard going to take two steps backwards from this?
They always make one step forward and then two steps back.
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>>541150445
>they're actually blocking addon messages and reading chat
holy fucking cringe
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>>541151068
they've been fucking over the boomers ever since they censored women to fruitbowls and replaced npcs with niggers
they're just doubling down, current devs really hate real old school wow audience, which is still the majority of subscribers
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>>541151181
>>no one cares
I tried
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>>541151365
Holy based
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Top of the dead addons to you my sisters! Top of the bottom of the board as well it seems!
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>>541151370
i think i prefer pandafag op over you
fuck you for dissing femthyr
hope pandafag dials up his slop by 11 maybe femthyr will gain confidence
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>>541151068
Fresh blood? No, they don't think about them.
All that WoW has left are old players who refuse to quit or change. They literally lick Blizzard's asshole every time they do something because WoW is their personality and whatever their master does is a good thing.
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>>541151181
>leave the pedo furfag and the tranny sissy dragon alone...
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>>541151638
>>541151638
>>541151638
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>>541151330
>no more supply crate alerts
>no more muting players from 'certain' servers
>no more spam filters
fucking why.... they are insane, this is pure quality of life that doesn't affect high end content, why are they nuking this stuff?
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>>541149809
Playing original classic launch and TBC Classic made me hate classicniggers and almost made me hate old WoW
>muh adventure!
>actually lets all sit in dungeons and power level
>we must stack every world buff in the game to clear this 20+ year old content in under 45 minutes
>only warriors and mages are allowed to dps
>TBC
>spend just much time looking for groups for dungeons as I did 20 years ago
>on a populated server
>guild's won't help
>had to download a fucking LFG addon to even try to do heroics
Didn't start having fun until WOTLK classic. Huh that's weird
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>>541149809
sorry I just dont trust blizz. how many times have they said "we are listening :-)" only to disappoint everyone? the last time they tried to make the default ui good enough to replace addons was when they added "edit mode" to your ui. it was full of random restrictions and less customization than bartender. they never went back and fixed it. now blizz is claiming to remove dbm and weakauras but promises things will be ok? i doubt it

plus, on the raids side of things... every fucking tier theres a few fights that are absolute aids addons or not. how could you fix echo of nelth without addons? sure, theres fights like broodkeeper ovi that could be reasonably solved by humans with an extra 5 seconds to do mechanics, but some fights like nelth would require an extra 30 seconds to figure crap out. thats not going to be fun
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>>541136785
he won't play midnight becuase woke
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>>541130445
What's this from?



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