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MIDNIGHT EDITION

>Midnight Deep dive w/ Ion and Metzen on the 1st
https://www.wowhead.com/news/midnight-alpha-begins-october-2nd-deep-dive-and-dev-q-a-october-1st-378587
>Midnight blog posts (Zones, housing, pvp, raids, dungeons, delves, transmog etc)
https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-finally-releases-gamescom-midnight-blog-posts-new-systems-player-378407
>Midnight features
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24228402

/wowg/ guilds are dead, please wait Midnight.

Last thread >>541151638
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love worlo
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I am happy about TOTAL ADDON DEATH because I don't want to play wow anymore and killing addons does a lot to help break the addiction
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*downloads lua unlocker*
heh
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>>541177547
*gets reported by me because I run a lua unlocker checker*
nothing personal kiddo
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Fellowship won
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How we feeling about Fellowship?
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>>541177424
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Happy Locktober to all warlock mains!!!
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>>541177683
Two more weeks.
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the new vorer dh looks good
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cinema
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>>541177683
mplussy is my favorite mode but I can't imagine playing a game which ONLY has m+
it'll be dead within the year
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MY DIVINE PURPOSE IS TO HEAL THE WORLD
AND IM STILL LOOKIN
FOR THE PERFECT GIRL
ACKNOWLEDGE ME
AS THE HEAL GOD
CAUSE THIS THE REAL ME
NO FACADE
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>>541177856
looks like shit
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>TWW add a really fun spell for evoker called Engulf
>The following talents have been removed:
>Engulf
What the fuck Blizzard
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGcvWICMXWw
>they killed wa
it's over
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suffer drACKthyr, your race is an abomination and joke, such a joke that even reddit laughed at it
you are a failure
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>>541177856
>dimensius, seething about his defeat, decided to goatse in the sky above elflands
bit weird
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I'm new ish to wow lore, but I still want to try my hand at RP (RP guilds + neighborhoods looks really nice).

Any tips on how I could build my character to fit into the fact that I don't have a massive understanding of the warcraft universe? something like a tauren hunter who has just lived out in the plains of mulgore or smt, just less gay and also alliance ( probably gnomo)
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>>541177401
I know not all addons pulling secret data but they do things that are virtually impossible for a player to do manually themselves. In your stopwatch example it's basically impossible for a human to see an ability in combat then cursor over to a stop watch and click the start button. Literally just human reaction time alone would mean your timing is off.
So yes, while it is TECHNICALLY possible to do this in game yourself, in reality and practice it's simply not doable. Yet an addon can do it for you and display it right in your face while blaring noises to alert you.
A player with this advantage compared to a player without it is astronomical. One could even compare it to cheating.

Yes I agree actually that macros are comparable and so I would also have an issue with macros... If they weren't a thing in the game itself that anyone can use. Unlike addons, which are a 3rd party resource you must download and install outside of the game to then use inside.
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>>541178010
the cosmetic addons are still fair game. they're also updating the raid frames with midnight to show more info. but addons that access apis and play sounds for you to move out of the bad stuff and solve mechanics, will be gone, yeah
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your worgens
post them
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>>541178010
TOTAL
ADDON
DEATH
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Yeah I'm thinking wow won
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>>541178010
>nooooo they killed my only meaning of life which is a freakirino addonerino like players could NEVER EVER KILL A BOSS WITHOUT MY ADDON AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>541178010
>can no longer have the game yell "DON'T YELL. GET BETTER." on my screen when I die in-game
:/
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>>541178505
Brother filter these stupid hats

||s.4cdn.org/image/partyhat.gif
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midnight won
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>>541178010
good
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POWER
OVERWHELMING
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Im fine with them taking away the addons
But did they really have to remove half of the buttons at the same time
I liked pressing those
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>>541178094
>A player with this advantage compared to a player without it is astronomical
for healsluts doing 18s, maybe
for everybody else, not really. it helps but it isn't really a big deal.
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>>541178505
What? You just now find out classic general is dead? MoP Classic sucks until they get to ToT or SoO, Anniversary Realms are a TBC waiting room, and most classicandies are playing classic+ private servers right now.
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>>541178537
why don't people just.. read?
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>>541177547
basado
https://truesight.wtf/
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>>541178782
i cant read, sorry.
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>>541178094
Man, why re you such a contrarian? Addons are free, anyone can download addons, making an addon yourself is just slightly more difficulty than making a macro. Why the fuck are you making it into some arcane knowledge only available to select few? Every fucking wow player uses addons, they're widespread, easy to get, easy to install, easy to use.
>but muh macros are available in the game itself
You didn't write any of your macros either, you copied them from the 3rd party websites.
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>>541178775
MoP is doing just fine, its the general itself who's full of three(3) retarded faggots pushing everyone else away trying to talk about mop and vanilla
there's the end result now
wowcg needs to get Starcraft'd
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>>541178707
I'm a ww main and in shambles from what they've done to my spec
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>>541178845
kind of a you problem then, innit
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>>541178782
he is basically saying you can still use WA to show you out-of-combat stuff like, uhmmm, number of Valorstones you have, or something like that.
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JAVELS GYM BRAPPER
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>>541178826
honestly i wish i could make WoW look like that without resorting to unlockers
my eyes are jack shit and looking for visual clues is a pain in the ass
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Midnight will have to be the greatest expansion EVER for people to put up with the transition
>zero news regarding raid/party/unit frames aka you will have to use the default wow ui LOL
>worse nameplates
>worse details
>worse cooldown manager
>worse dbm
>no autopass lootcuck and loot council addons and 3 raids in one tier Ion said fuck your splits fuck your RWF aka the only event that brings in views
This game is about to transform into second life
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>>541178713
I mean in the specific example being used of tracking enemy kicks I was thinking of a pvp advantage, duh?

>>541178859
You call me contrarian but my opinion is the majority. You are the contrarian.
More people are celebrating the death of combat addons than lamenting their loss.
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>>541179191
>I mean in the specific example being used of tracking enemy kicks I was thinking of a pvp advantage, duh?
nobody plays pvp, dummy
it's a pve game
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>>541175664
>Right now, there's no exceptions for the addons in terms of the type of gameplay mode that you're in, so that does include PVP. However, we are taking the opportunity to improve the nameplates as well to make those more effective. So things like being able to see your team's status on their cooldowns, that will be a part of the HUD itself, as well as nameplates that will now show things like crowd control effects during PVP matches. So right on your nameplate, you'll be able to see which person has crowd control effects on them much more clearly. And even in PVE situations, you'll be able to see who needs to be interrupted. It should have a stronger callout for someone that needs to be interrupted if they're casting something important. So all of this is really just to try to make things easier for you to see at a glance.
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>>541178826
>we're in the timeline where both wow and ffxiv have a burgeoning addon community but they're outlawed and will get you banned if caught
>except the cheaty wow addons are paid while the cheaty xiv addons are free
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>>541178826
>classic clip is just walking simulator

lmao
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>>541179241
I agree completely. The tracking pvp kicks was just the initial post to set off the argument so i'm staying on topic.
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>>541179427
classic had the perfect mix of difficulty in terms of rotations and encounters
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>>541179504
Yeah, none of either
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>>541179241
>enter pvp
>don't have addons that track literally everything
>get shat on
>don't pvp
Yeah I wonder.
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>>541179427
>>541179504
Because the dev doesnt play classic.
Try this instead, retoilet:
https://youtu.be/pHYDiEo24OI
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>>541179504
>frostbolt frostbolt frostbolt
>shadowbolt shadowbolt shadowbolt
>90% of the encounters had 1 mechanic, if even that
>many specs were borderline unviable
lol. like i get the nostalgia, and classic is good for what it is, very simple gameplay and leveling, but come on now
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>>541179597
>classic
>elite pvp
>rogue
lol
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>>541179418
>streamers have to choose to either out themselves as cheaters openly broadcasting the crime or just play fair
Yeah I think we're in for some kino.
Midnight wonning long before even being live!
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>>541179597
I can do all of that on retail
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>blizzard killed wa, dbm and custom nameplates
>their drones come in
>"erhm, actually they didn't"
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>>541179687
best part is seeing streamerfags lose their shit because they can't sell their weakaura packs anymore to retards for a profit
it's fucking great
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im glad they're finally owning up to this. if an addon is needed to mechanically play the game (not talking like rp stuff or cosmetic), then it means on some level the game designers have failed, and wow has been using the addon community to cover for their failures for a loooooooong time
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>>541178826
now this is proper cheating
might as well just run a bot now
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>>541179687
ahkshually those are overlays
you just choose to stream from ffxiv / wow window and nothing shows up
t. 3.5k cheater
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>actually midnight is le winning
Crazy cope.
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>nillers raiding wowg again
what happened lil bro, general got archived again for the 5th time in a week?
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>>541179708
not without the extra disney slop
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>>541179843
they had to. they admitted that they design fights with addons in mind, and so as a result of that we get very convoluted fights a lot of times
you have to be genuinely retarded to see how every guild raiding mythic has 2-3 weakaura monkeys shitting out weakauras on a conveyor belt every time there's a new tier and think that this is fine
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>can still make some things look round
>can still make some other things look square
don't know what everyone is mad about
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>all the raid bosses and dungeons bosses are re-used models
its over
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>>541179843
>wow has been using the addon community to cover for their failures for a loooooooong time
exactly, and everyone was happy - players got better experience and blizzard got free labor
literally thousands of codemonkeys working for free to improve the default shitty ui
the only reason they are scrapping that is because microsoft is forcing them to push wow to xbox, and they can't have addon distribution on consoles without implementing it in-game, which they won't do because that's too much work
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you could solve those mechanics by just looking at them, retard
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>>541180040
>literally thousands of codemonkeys working for free to improve the default shitty ui
but that will still be possible
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>>541180096
more than half of top addons are combat addons that will be nuked
only stuff like auctionator, baganator and handynotes will be left
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>>541180251
learn to read basic english first ya fucking monkey
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>>541179843
The thing is, they never were NEEDED.
But they were allowed.
And if you have a tool that allows you to be more effective, then it's pretty much mandatory.
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>>541180402
some bosses are borderline impossible without weakauras, and you know it
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>Sneedolands was last expansion that had their meta achievement be an actual feat of strength and awarded at title
>meta achievements became babymode after dragonflight so they're on longer considered epic feats
jej
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>>541180480
>Legion meta achievement would be so easy they removed it entirely
Kekaroo
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>>541180402
>And if you have a tool that allows you to be more effective, then it's pretty much mandatory.
I played with nothing but a dps meter and a WA pack to track my own cooldowns (which I could easily replace by just moving bars to the middle, I just used WA since they're easy to turn off when not in dungeons) and I have resilient 16 on pwarr
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>>541180040
>because microsoft is forcing them to push wow to xbox

good.

some of my favorite RPGs were on xbox or playstation. devil may cry, fable, ninja gaiden black, otogi 2, there's no reason you cant have good action combat on a controller, wow is FINALLY starting to remember this ancient video game technique, long forgotten since the early 00s, called a C-O-M-B-O. its where you push a button, and then when you push it a second time in short succession, a different thing happens. MMOS fucking completely forgot you can put 2 actions on the same button by having them fire off in sequence, and so you have 40+ keybinds because everything needed to be its own button for....reasons?

the sooner they make the game console and controller ready, the better, it will breathe some fresh life back into the realms and bring the world back to the world of warcraft.
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>>541180480
BFA one is way more time consuming than DF.
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>>541180562
>I did dungeons without WAs where every boss has 3 mechanics max that are easy to track
okay now try Fractillus
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>>541180562
Tanking isnt a real role though
Playing on baby mode doesnt count
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>>541180636
the REAL OG meta achievement
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>>541180651
nah mythic raiding is for trannies
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>>541180724
Notice how I didn't even mention Mythic raiding
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>>541180639
>covid mask
>chatgpt generated 'heritage' set
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>>541180742
I hope you're not implying fractillus is impossible to kill without addons on fucking heroic
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>>541180808
Try it
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I'm not currently subbed, just here to laugh at addontroons. Midnigs might end up being decent.
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>>541180834
I got aotc in a random pug on week 2
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is this the most reddit thing ever released by blizz?
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Holy shit feral won so hard already, lost a ton a bloatslop and gained cool shit
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>>541180562
That's cool, and maybe you would do more if you used those tryhard WAs.
I've only ever done some 15s this time and checked out because I don't find it fun - my only "combat WAs" is personal important buff/debuff tracking and certain ability CD reset audio cues.
I know I could install shit like that reflect reminder and diminishing return tracker to be hyper effective, but I simply cba.
Same with pvp - it turns into forcing defensives and then blowing people up - obviously while tracking their CDs, making sure they don't have any atm. etc.
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if you summon army of the dead while apocalypse ghouls are out does it still dismiss them?
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How am I supposed to be an elitist in wow without addons?
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>>541180907
>I dont actually play the game but I agree with gutting it
Of course shitters think this is okay
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>>541180937
I skipped the entirety of DF.
Someone give me a rundown on this thing and why is it called the reddit dog?
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>>541180937
not even in the top 100
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Oh cool :)
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>>541180907
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>>541180937
Taivan belongs to China
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>>541180937
it's a big dog
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>>541181024
>currently
You need an addon to read too?
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>>541180937
looks pretty cute
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I won
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>reddit sticking with the pedo spiral as God intended
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>>541181137
>the pedo spiral
the what now
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>>541180937
>an unoffensive questline and dogs are reddit
What are you even doing man.
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>>541181052
I do care tho, this is going to be a good change.
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>>541181041
Reddit calls him the goodest boy cuz he's a heck in doggerino.(In a quest he's kinda an outcast cuz everyone thinks he's useless at every job but ends up saving a bunch of people from a ransacked village with your help)
You need a lot of achievement hunting in DF to collect him as a mount (he can also fly)
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>>541178974
Bro, Valorstones are gone in Midnight.
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>>541181179
It looks like the official pedophile logo, which is why they changed it (but reddit sticks with the pedo one)
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>>541181050
That means you're done with Brewfest, right? You've gotten everything?
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>>541181223
hecking pupperinos are reddit yes
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>>541181050
damn, grats!
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>>541181307
Actually brainrotted.
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>>541181304
i have everything, including the old steins :)
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can you move neighborhoods? I don't want furry/tranny freaks in my hood
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>>541181239
post logs
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>>541181298
>the official pedophile logo
????????
this is one of those "you only know it if you're it" things, huh
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>>541181269
Man those faggots have such ability to make anything cringe and obnoxious.
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>>541181269
>(he can also fly)
Can't. The SL maw dragon is the only meta mount that can fly.
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>>541181375
yes. you can pack your entire house including the design you made for it and move somewhere else and just plop it there
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The anti-addon crowd went quiet when it turns out you can make your ui with sirens but BLIZZARD APPROVED
>Ding
>honk honk
>runaway little girl runaway
>Burrrp
>ding
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>>541181432
Shadowlands... WON!
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>>541181298
How do you even know this?
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I hope they cook and cut down on the complexity that is actually shitty.
Overlaps, target swapping in your prior spec, shitty adds that you need to burst without being a burst spec, etc.
They need to increase HP and Time to kill on a lot of raid adds, otherwise it's feast or famine if you actually do any damage on a kit or encounters. Having adds die in 2-3 globals is fucking pointless and incentivizes ungabunga retard specs. Pissed me off they continue this shit through multiple expansion.
Burst is so retarded in this game lately, what's the point of not playing a burst spec
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>>541181468
it doesnt matter because classes are completely gutted so there is nothing to track and you cant track anything from enemies
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>>541181468
No cause that's exactly what we want you fucking retard. Now I never have to update details ever again because it's just built into the game naturally.
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>>541181468
ellesmeere bros we wonned
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so why exactly were PROTO DRAGONS the BFA gladiator mount anyway? doesnt even make much sense
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>>541181414
No.
But you seem like you were betting all on it being some schizo conspiracy, only to be surprised it's out in the open like that, and now you try to come up with some counter since your previously prepared reply can no longer apply.
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>>541181540
brown player and gray parser post
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>>541181615
Why do we have bats as gladiator mounts in TWW?
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>>541181468
honks are useful for enemy actions, like a frontal to avoid if you're a dumb cocksleeve healer who is too busy staring at the bars to pay any attention to positioning
honks for when your cooldown is available is pointless
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>>541181532
The logo has been thrown around a lot during the pizzagate.
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>>541181629
>since your previously prepared reply can no longer apply
what was my previously prepared reply, totally not sus anon?
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>>541181298
>>541181137
welcome back jesuschristisking
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>>541181041
nta but what made you skip all of DF?
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>>541181643
Actually fucking kino
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>>541181589
>30 seconds once every 6 months is worth gutting the game over
ok retard
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>>541180480
Nothing will ever beat BfA "Phenomenal Cosmic Power" in terms of being actual feat of strength proto-meta achievement. And it only awarded shitty title nobody cares about - "Azeroth's Champion".
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OH NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DEAD GAME
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>>541181904
shadowlands one was pretty good too honestly, very grindy and awarded a title (eventually a mount as well).
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>>541181904
I only missed rank 4 blood of the enemy. I just flat out was not having a fun time honor grinding in BFA because of how shit the prestige to honor transfer was.
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>>541181867
The fact that I was already unsubbed from SL and seeing the teaser cinematics with the faggot dragon, and finally coming to wowg during beta, reading all the shitposts about the gay shit, the streams with the Hamlet agp faggot really made me certain I don't want to have anything to do with the game.
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>>541182019
based
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>>541182019
DF was pretty decent tho
certainly better than sneedlands and midnight
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>>541181875
You depend on addons and think the game is ruined and gutted without them and i'm the retard? Ironic.
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>>541182003
That was the one I dreaded the most, and when I started doing it it was a breeze and tons of fun because I was SP with stacked haste corruptions so I was literally soling epic BGs by having 100% uptime of voidform and ending up with 100+ killing blows each game.
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>>541180480
>absolutely dogshit meta mount

Could have been bubbles but no...
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>>541181643
Only took 15 years
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>>541182019
df had great gameplay and made some much needed changes to core wow features, like ui or professions
but if you're also someone interested in the story and setting, yeah, it was DOGSHIT. blue dragonflight questline was nice, the lone dwarf story was nice, the tuskarr quests were nice, but apart from that, the main story, was ASS
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>>541182128
>think the game is ruined and gutted without them and i'm the retard?
nta but yes
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>>541181589
Blizzard's version is also going to be A LOT more accurate than Details will ever be
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>>541178826
>macos
is it true that mac players are not actually checked by warden?
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>>541182185
>nta but i just decided to jump in and let you know that i am also an ironic retard
Cool? Thanks for letting me know i guess.
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>>541182219
yeah cause it will run server side
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>>541182128
all the classes look like dogshit in midnight so yeah it is gutted you fucking retard
No changes were needed and everything looks worse
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>>541182350
Probably also won't be such a resource hog
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WAAH BLIZZARD RE-RELEASE THESE PROMO ITEMS BECAUSE I WASN'T AROUND FOR
2
>2
2
>2
MONTHS TO COLLECT IT :(((((((((((
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>>541182360
My class is looking way better. Sounds like a you problem.
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>>541182267
didn't play worlo on mac but I'm 100% certain that fapple would never let a fucking video game access to security internals that practically nobody outside of apple itself has access to. it's by far the most siloed (locked down?) OS as far as design goes, and while in theory you could add functionality that does a fair amount of snooping without access to the guts it would blare 10 different popups (terrible optics for blizz) and would break with every OS update, even on minor versions
tldr theoreticall possible, practically impossible
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>>541182183
>great gameplay and made some much needed changes to core wow features
Yeah I don't doubt that.
I like TWW and get why people bitch it's same as DF - which I skipped, so it's been all fresh experience for me.
Truth be told, I didn't even mind the covenants in SL that much. Everything else just felt so miserable, the anima farming, the shitty world quests, how you would spend so much time waiting while npcs around you yap or just riding that stupid worm from zone to zone, the fucking Maw, how absolutely unbalanced Torghast was (some specs had an absolute blast while some were pure humiliation ritual) etc. And also the gay shit on top of Sylvanas fatigue.
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>>541182494
I have 800 days /played :)
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>>541182447
>I paid for the game so I should be able to just get anything
What's this logic those people have?
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>>541181904
God i fucking tried to get that but the Mythic essence and glad eluded me.
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Midnight is kino and worlo is back

the sneed within was filler and the real kino is Midkino
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>>541182569
If I logged all toons its about 1000
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>>541182627
Why shouldn't they be able to get everything the game has to offer? Are you less likely to use those cosmetics if it's no longer unobtainable?
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>>541181468
>honks from addons BAD AND CHEATING
>honks from blizzard ui GOOD AND WHOLESOME
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delves with valeera
yes...
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What will players who created addons and weakauras gonna do with their lives now?
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>>541182665
>Midkino
There's symbology in the fact that you can easily add "kino" to the titles of DF and TWW but not MIDnight
>Kinoflight
>The Kino Within
>Midkino??
>Kinonight???
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>>541181956
afaik only maldraxxus part was really grindy, other than that it wasn't too terrible
good meta tho, TWW is a joke that I'll get the moment they introduce it without any extra effort
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I've been out of the loop on raiding for a while. What are people using to sim their characters now?
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>>541182872
traveco
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>>541181532
>Nooo you should let your enemies dangle their symbols and dogwhistles in front of your face laughing at your ignorance! You can't learn them to discern them, that's illegal!
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>>541182903
raidbots
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>>541182903
Raidbots website and simc addon
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>>541182547
there was never a reason to farm anima, you didnt play shadowlands
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>>541182854
Make non-combat addons and weakauras I guess?
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WoWchads won. We're going home.
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>>541182645
I was really close to missing it because fucking mechagon paragon essence was not dropping for me at all, got it 2 weeks before deadline after like 30 paragon crates.
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>>541182854
if you're someone that makes cell, baganator, bartender or trp, you're fine
if you're someone that codes computational weakauras and the like, it's GG
no more weakaura packs being sold to plebs, you have to learn the game ;)
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>>541182854
make even more degenerate overlays that run outside the game entirely
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>>541181589
>complaining about updating
>not a skada or recount CHAD
ngmi
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>>541182943
What's the point of this blatant retardpost?
Yes, you had to farm anima to unlock shit, are you actually stupid?
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>>541182943
you had to though, for the anima container which you used to unlock shit
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>>541182854
I'll probably finally work on my other programming projects that I neglected because of coding wow addons all the time. Might be a good change after all.
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>>541182872
Kinonight, yes.
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How will your white only housing and neighbourns in Midnight gonna be?
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>>541182854
>What will players who created addons and weakauras gonna do with their lives now?
they will move from providing free addons to the masses and making a few bucks from ad money to providing paid addons to the minority for 1000x the price
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>>541183141
>>541183178
retarded troons
no you didnt, none of that was relevant
if you want to have gay venthyr tea parties the issue was youre a faggot
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Did Midnight fix rogue?
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>>541183326
you think that was the only thing behind anima unlocks? LOL
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>wowcg is officially dead
now that the dust has settled, can we agree that classic was hella corny?
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>>541183505
hobo phase (first ~2 months) of classic was fun as fuck
the rest, well you didn't miss out on much
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>>541183456
There was 0 power tied to anima.
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>>541183505
Classic died the second the gdkp started
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>>541183583
Then why did the jlor want it HMMM??
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>>541183456
Teleports arent relevant
Gay venthyr erp or furry farmville arent relevant
shitty transmog isnt relevant
thats what was behind anima

It was literally a completely irrelevant system and an obvious litmus test for what retards didnt actually play shadowlands
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>>541183505
They should have started working on classic+ years ago instead of trying to pull off shit like cata and mop
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>7800x3d is cheaper than 5700x3d
is it time to move to am5? I wanna play sum fakkin worlo but the raid performance is shit
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>>541183505
>nobody wants to play cataclysm or mists of pandaria
>these expansions literally lost the bulk of the playerbase originally years ago
>every one tells blizzard this
>they ignore every one and push forward making cata and mop classic, repeating the mistakes of the past
>classic literally dies, history repeating itself again
Like poetry, it rhymes.
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>>541183505
WoW > Turtle WoW> X*V > GW2 > ESO > "Classic" WoW
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>>541183505
there's nothing in classic until tbc maybe and throne of thunder/siege of orgrimmar/timeless isle in mop or some classic+ news
>>541183583
>>541183650
there was gear and upgrades to mission tables
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>>541183687
They self sabotaged MoP though by doing MoP remix right before it came out killing all nostalgia
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How do alts work on lemix?
Suppose you grind whatever extra player powa there is on druid, then you make a paladin alt. Do you start from zero?
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>>541183505
Should have stopped at Wrath. But some some reason they pushed into Cata and now we are here with WoD looming over them and Blizzard have no fucking idea how to escape now.
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>>541183704
XIV > GW2 > ESO > Turtle WoW > Classic WoW >>>>>>>>>>>> WoW
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>>541183704
This but turtle and ESO at the very bottom
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>>541183778
>Do you start from zero?
If the PTR is any indication, yes. Only Infinite Knowledge (this is what determines how much infinite power you get) is account wide.
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>>541183820
this nigga is still stuck in 2021 lmao. you can drop the larp and shitposting attitude, anon. you're like 37
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>>541183583
You had to do shit that awarded anima to progress the renown, which unlocked soulbind conduits, so while you didn't "have to farm anima" directly, you had to do shit that awarded it on the side.
Also I'm pretty sure there was that one "fill the reservoir" quest, which had you do exactly one thing - farm anima.
On top of soul ash and whatever was that they added later.
But I guess you will now hang on the anima like "no no no you said anima so now we talk about anima only" while I meant it more as a general name for currency that had to be farmed.
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>>541183931
>he still gets mad about XIV
This is why I come here.
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>>541183760
True but cataclysm is literally the expansion that ruined the entire game in the first place and making a classic version of it was the ultimate no no. We never should have even had a mop classic.
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>>541182934
>>541182940
thanks
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>>541183985
i didn't? just gave you friendly advice. unless you enjoy getting shit on?
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>>541184057
>I didn't
:DDD
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>>541183873
man, blizz really hates people just enjoying themselves without dragging their balls through a mile of broken glass first
thanks
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>>541182627
>I should NOT be able to get what I pay for
aggressively gen z opinion
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The current version of the Midnight fury warrior tree has some real jank to it. Fresh Meat and Focus in Chaos need to swap places, as do Scent of Blood and Deep Wounds.
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>>541183820
ESO had such amazing pvp in the past, before they made all the auto-trigger item sets
you could fight and win against like 5 people at once if you were truly good
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>>541184129
>i was merely pretending to be retarded
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>>541184194
I forgot to mention the XP bonus % is account wide too.
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>>541184267
It was fun time.
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>>541184196
Who are you shitting, retard, zoomers are the entitled ones here.
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>>541183749
mission tables gave no relevant gear
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>>541184304
Yeah XIV won
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absolute kino
https://youtu.be/cRbVTm-VDdc&t=210
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>>541184414
aren't xivvies in open revolt due to some cat tranny being the main character and the story falling off a cliff?
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>>541184376
conduits?
>>541184414
good trolling has some basis in reality. nufaggots like you are garbage at it
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>>541184495
>>541184513
Cool phoneposting
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>housing exp
>housing leveling
>housing progression
>neighborhood must do it as joint effort
LFM MYTHIC GARDEN WATERING EXP ONLY 2/10M GARDENER LEAD NOTE HOUSEIO
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>>541184484
the new blizz ui for midnight is looking crazy
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>ywn be be bullied by biofems into mowing their lawns every weekend
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>>541184484
This is what classic players have to go through to make their game hard
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I'll do the mandatory housing intro quest and then leave it to collect dust, maybe I'll find a neighbourhood to shit up with my default house
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>>541181414
>>541181532
NTA but I know what it is and various others because of pizzagate
we spent a while digging up all their codes, symbols and signage that they use to signal each other about locations, preferences, things "for sale" and various other evil shit.
We (/pol/lacks mostly) then of course passed all this information along to a variety of law enforcement agencies hoping to see it pursued and a network of high level child traffickers taken down. However, we instead found out that law enforcement, particularly federal law enforcement is in on it. They knew all along, they run security for the operations, and are both customers and traffickers themselves. Its one of the major reasons that actual center-right pollacks have a such a dismal opinion of cops these days and why we mock anyone who defends them. They are paid goons for the Fedofiles.

>>541181736
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>>541184684
i just want a bimbodorei maid
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>battlegrounds against NPCs
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO
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>>541184958
DEAD GAME
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Can I be the only human male and have neighbourns only female elves in Midnight Housing????
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>>541184762
wow you guys sound so cool where can I join your club?
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is this game fun? asked my friend who played awhile ago and he went on a racist sexist rant.
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the WAsissy drama is insane
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>>541184958
Alliance has been a thing for 20 years
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>>541184958
>battlegrounds against NPCs
>that gives no honor
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
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>>541184958
basically proving grounds for pvp, what's wrong with it?
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>>541184513
conduits were drops from dungeons and raids
did you EVER play shadowlands anon?
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>>541185131
The conduits that boosted the nodes were, but you had to unlock them first, retard.
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>>541184236
Is prot still butchered? The last rework was garbage.
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>>541185196
...with renown
>b-but weekly collect anima
was completed on its own if you did pretty much any content on it
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>>541184236
I just took a look at the fury tree because of your post and noticed that rampage no longer enrages you. I also noticed that it looks like Bloodthirst has a bas 65% chance to enrage which you can increase to 100% by taking Fresh Meat and 2 points in Deft Experience. Interesting change.
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>>541185237
How about the soul ash?
Never mind, let me skip ahead and claim it was not an issue either, it farmed itself, you just had to play.
In fact the whole Shadowlands was such non-issue, yet people quit it in droves despite everyone else amassing huge audience on the account of the coof that was a thing during that time.
Sure, buddy...
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>>541177424
love wowg anons so much!!!
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>>541185101
literally nothing, especially if you would be able to complete bg cheevos in those modes. but is another nail in the coffin to actual pvp.
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>>541185429
>how about something completely unrelated to my post? huh? huh?!
>yeah thought so, faggot
>ahhh, another flawless victory
retarded gorilla nigger
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>>541183505
Classicucks ruined Classic by playing it like they do retail
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>>541185429
>How about the soul ash?
the discussion was about anima why are you pivoting?
>In fact the whole Shadowlands was such non-issue
if it was such an issue you wouldnt have flailed around like a retard for multiple posts trying to find a need for anima
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>>541185448
>if you would be able to complete bg cheevos in those modes
you aren't
it's basically Wargames with bots
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>>541185636
>the discussion was about anima why are you pivoting?
refer to >>541183970
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>>541181926
enough about xiv
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>>541185448
most likely you will have to pvp against actual players for the cheevos. proving grounds didn't do shit either in that regard
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>>541184236
I have not looked at warrior but apparently they are pushing power further down the tree to make room for apex talents essentially. Which really isn't unsurprising tbqh
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>>541185607
>by playing it like they do retail
hah, if only. retail is pretty chill at almost every skill level with the sole exception of rat keys (not a real issue past s1, everybody can do 10s) and >=16 (some sweaties get real fucking mad)
in classic you have absolutely brainless content designed to be finished by 13 year old children playing on 800x600 displays and 56kbps modems and the playerbase turned it into a sweatier affair than non-HoF mythic raiding on retail
it's honestly amazing. classic playerbase truly hates themselves
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>>541184236
How do I play Midnight now?
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>>541185393
It's looking way better, that guy is being retarded. So is the other guy complaining about prot, prot was made awesome last patch and it looks to be improved even more in midnight.
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>>541183970
>You had to do shit that awarded anima to progress the renown
The catchup was so generous that I never did the quests past like week 3 and was always behind by just 3 that could be had on a given week. It was completely ignore-able if you were fine being like one conduit behind.
most of my guild did that and we were like world 300 in SL s1
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>>541183970
>Also I'm pretty sure there was that one "fill the reservoir" quest
weekly iirc
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RETOILETS LOST
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can't wait for ageplay erp neighborhood on argent dawn. We will have so much fun in private instance of it and there is nothing people will be able to do about it.
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>>541185956
You have to suck Ions tiny jewish cock
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>>541186017
prot is always cool even when it's dogshit, no idea what bro was screeching about
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>>541183970
>>541185783
>but the stuff that gave power also gave anima so that means you needed anima
dumbest nigger post ever. You were farming m+ for gear and vault slots, not anima. it gave free anima for cosmeticfags that you had absolutely no need for
>replenishing the reservoir
which you didnt have to do, because renown catchup was automatic, and was also finished passively.
>I meant it more as a general name for currency that had to be farmed.
oh of course, when I say farm honor I clearly mean farm things like honor and crests and valorstones right?
Stop trying to backpeddle you subhuman retard
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>Ion says like 10 times that only real-time combat data processing is going to be removed
>all other visual customization and all other capabilities other than real-time combat processing are going to remain
>all dungeons and raids in this expansion and onwards will be built with an idea that players cannot calculate real time mechanics with addons - it will be giving more time to mechanics or there will be less mechanics (he explicitly mentions potential interrupts reduction and running into/from something giving more time to react)
so why are people assblasted about it?
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AYO WOW Gz
TS ALWAYS FIRE ME UP!!100!!!100!!
CMON THEN WAGWAN WIW Gz
https://youtu.be/7V8s7Cl3zO0?t=2m59s
FIRE IN THE BOOTH!!
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>>541186356
>prot is always cool even when it's dogshit
you clearly never played pwarr in sl s1
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>>541186518
Because this is coming from Blizzard who has a track record of fucking up.
>all dungeons and raids in this expansion and onwards will be built with an idea that players cannot calculate real time mechanics with addons
^This shit will NOT go down the way they say it will. We WILL continue getting fights that would require addons to keep track of all the bullshit happening.
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>>541186516
>You were farming m+ for gear and vault slots, not anima
you were doing pvp for gear and vault slots*
>>541186518
because every single addon that is even slightly related to combat processes combat data in real time
all that's left is garbage like questie and 20 flavors of how your bags look like
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>>541186518
>>all other visual customization and all other capabilities other than real-time combat processing are going to remain
>so why are people assblasted about it?
Because this means when it comes to combat related UI addons will only be able to take existing blizzard UI, like their cooldown manager, and more/resize/change border. Addons won't be able to add any new combat-relted UI elements, even as small ones as showing a new bar with your HPs.
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>>541186017
I haven't played it but the talents kind of concern me. A lot of them stack buffs for another ability and kind of conflict. Like yeah you can stack Bloodcraze to 5 for 75% crit damage to BT but when are you going to hit that many RBs inside of enrage? Not to mention the buff that rampage gives, with reck nerfed to 50% rage gen you probably wont ever get 2 rampages before you have to hit BT again. It all looks exciting on paper but in reality you'll never get the full value those talents present and you'll just be hitting the same 3 abilities without those talents making any impact on you rotation beyond making the numbers slightly higher.
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>>541186518
>so why are people assblasted about it?
ESLs that can't process basic english or can't read
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>>541186518
>all dungeons and raids in this expansion and onwards will be built with an idea that players cannot calculate real time mechanics with addons
I'm sceptical about the addon purge but I hope it does stop all these over designed encounters and trash with the same number of mechanics as bosses.
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>>541186693
>track record
When was the last time they fucked up something gameplay related in the game tho?
Shadowlands with a lot of things, DF went fine and TWW went fine, none of them had any gameplay system that made the game worse such as Artifact power, Azerite power or Torghast
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>pros of deleting addons
all the streamerinos blatantly profiteering off of selling presets for addons that should be banned but weren't can't continue doing so
no more half an hour of syncing shit up before neltharion because guild retard #2 is too stupid to raid mythic
>cons
healers will go extinct
everything else, really
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Now that all the non allied races have gotten heritage armor (with pandaren coming in midnight)
Which race had the worst one and which race had the best one in (you)r opinion?
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>>541186931
>When was the last time they fucked up something gameplay related in the game tho?
Mythic raiding in general since like BFA
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>>541185393
The talents shown on the wowhead post include all buffs applied by other talents, so Bloodthirst does not have a base 65% chance to enrage, it has a 30% base chance.
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>>541186949
>>cons
>healers will go extinct
?
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>>541187009
some weird cope that assumes 99% of healers use cell when it's more like 5% and stretching it a lot
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>>541186516
Fuck off nigger, I was asked why I quit SL, I said I didn't like farming anima, cba elaborating on the gorillion of different currencies they added, suck my ass, faggot, nobody cares.
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>>541186962
worgen lost
dwarves won
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>>541186962
>good
worgen's top hat
dorf
>decent
belf
tauren
>bad
everything else
>what the fuck is this even
draenei
panda
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>>541187082
but cell will still be available and they're also updating raid frames
don't get it
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I only use weakauras to auto accept role selection and keep track of specific spec buffs
Is that going to be gone?
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>>541186518
Anon, these "people", these complainers, are now coming up with scenarios that "dad gamers" are going to quit because they are the ones who use these addons the most.
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>>541186962
i like tauren, gnome and worgen. i think draenei, trolls and pandaren got shafted
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>>541187137
Pretty sure the draenei one is based on old concept art of the draenei, although censored/more covered up.
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>>541178261
What about if I post worgens that aren't mine
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>>541187147
cell isn't confirmed to be available but I mean it's much more likely it will stay than it will be pruned as it's more of a cosmetic addon than a combat addon, at most it won't highlight debuffs in lines anymore and you are gonna have to watch the icons instead.
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>>541187007
Okay, my mistake, thank you.
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>>541186962
goblin is pretty bad
human nelf orc undead belf slap
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>>541187009
healing in m+ pugs is already kind of a shit deal, but you can offload a lot of effort onto addons. removing them doesn't change things a lot for tanks/dps (who don't stare at bars anyway) but does for healers
if you can't do that I'd expect a lot of the above-weekly-but-below-sweaty healers to just switch to another role
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>>541181904
>Rank 4 FOMO
>no one actually will see the Rank 4 visuals effects since the hoa is obsolete and too low ilvl to use these days

KEK, RETARDED DESIGN EVERY FUCKING TIME
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>>541186962
Goblin is inoffensive but very lazy, Undermine gives better Goblin mogs now.
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>>541186962
worgen one screams humilation ritual
gnome one is kino
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>>541187091
>farming anima
which obviously wasnt a thing, but you didnt actually play shadowlands
> cba elaborating on the gorillion of different currencies they added
because you didnt actually play shadowlands so you dont know what they are
Next time dont get your opinions from streamers
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>>541186962
How fucking long this shit took since they first time did this? Like over 7-8 years?
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>>541186962
>Draenei heritage armor
>armor specifically designed for Draenei and nobody else
>hides horns
>uses the shitty duped stretched out texture on the lower leg
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>>541186962
Bimbodoreis, belf and nelf best obviously
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>>541186962
That panda mog is easily the new worst
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>>541187147
>but cell will still be available
90% of what cell does depends on real time combat data analysis
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>>541187341
you forgot the part where baseline healing will be stronger across the board and tracking dps defensives didn't matter because none used them to begin with.
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>>541187396
iirc it started in bfa, i dont remember which race was first, though
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>>541187381
Okay, stay delusional, retard.
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>>541187341
but it goes hand in hand with a change in encounter design. so, we have to see?
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>>541187271
cell is 100% percent gone
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>>541187468
>baseline healing will be stronger across the board
so?
>and tracking dps defensives didn't matter because none used them to begin with
your +10 shitgroups are irrelevant to my point in that any halfway decent healer is loaded to the gills with addons because they're much more reliant on them than other roles due to needing to split their attention, which other roles don't really do
>>541187587
blizz always talks up the muh design changes to compensate and it never happens
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>>541186836
You definitely haven't played warrior much cause you make it sound way more complicated than it is. Bloodcraze already exists it works the same way right now they're just swapping crit chance to crit damage, it has like a 20 second duration on the buff you don't need to stack them all at once it's just a passive increase you use as it comes.
>any impact on you rotation beyond making the numbers slightly higher.
That's all any of this is. Just passive small increases you barely notice as you continue to press your buttons same as usual.
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>>541187448
Any armor looks bad on them, not because the armor is bad, but because they are literally ugly stupid pandas.
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>cell/cuf is gone
>custom weakaura resource bars are gone
>nameplate coloring is gone
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>>541187009
healing is only bearable if you can clickcast (not via fucking macros) on a proper raid frames
it won't matter in low end content tho
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>is a better pandaren heritage armor in youre path
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They're dumbing the game down for a console and mobile port
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If nothing else the removal of addons simplifies things. Instead of choosing a good dps/heal or dps/tank combo I will be able to focus only on dps/tank classes
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>>541187572
I don't understand why blizzard couldn't release all the heritage armors at the same time? I mean I was excited back in bfa but now i*m like whatever I don't care anymore.
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>wowo wawa on xbox go home
>no addons allowed
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>>541187454
>>541187602
>The new system that our UI engineers have come up with is what we're calling secret values, where basically the UI still works as before, except that when there is a buff on you or a damage event that has happened in combat, those items are inside a black box. The UI and add-ons can know that that box exists, they can display information about it in a larger way, smaller way. They can make it pink if they want, whatever you prefer, but what they can't do is know definitively what's inside that box and run any kind of logic based on it. Again, the goal specifically is to just restrict that problem solving real-time computation that's used to aid moment to moment combat and do the least possible damage to every other add-on that millions of people use and enjoy.

I can bet 100 greens that cell will stay. It won't highlight combat status on the frames anymore but the frames as is are still gonna be available.
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>>541187707
>never used any of that shit
>still got curve/3k/elite
Heh, sucks to be an addon addict.
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>>541187870
I don't entirely understand how, but blizz managed to make some of the dogshit, low quality, low poly armors work almost like a status symbols amongst mountsmogs. Just look at the mental illness of people who don't have original mage tower skins absolutely losing their minds they can't get them in other ways.
In a similar vein, heritage armor is valuable content for mountsmogs that helps sell expansions so you don't dole them all out at the same time. How, I have no fucking idea, but it is what it is.
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>>541187970
>but what they can't do is know definitively what's inside that box and run any kind of logic based on it
so it's worthless because Cell is essentially a huge if-else tree
>the goal specifically is to just restrict that problem solving real-time computation that's used to aid moment to moment combat
what the fuck do you think cell does?
>I can bet 100 greens that cell will stay
easy money
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>>541187970
back to kino
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>>541188024
post logs
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https://www.wowhead.com/transmog-set=2896/sindorei-blood-elf-heritage-armor

Bimbodorei sis, you have this for MIDWOKE right?
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>>541187970
this only means that if default UI is displaying a box that shows a buff on another player in raid, midnight addons can move that box, reskin that box to be pink, make it smaller or larger, and that's it.
addons won't be able to create a new box with same value because they will not have access to combat data that would enable it
maybe someone can re-create cell using default raid frames, but that will be completely new addon
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>m+ run is going well
>beating the timer
>random maniac starts flaming the tank "next time please don't blah blah blah"
>tank decides to take the bait rather than finishing the key
>"xD xD excuse me?"
>healer goes in on the circus and adds his own input
>the run is over
>mfw
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>>541188130
jesus christ bro what is this insane cope in your post, just say you want cell removed (for whatever reason) 10 times over, it won't happen.
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>>541186962
wtf is that garbage on pandaren? there is no way this can be a real set. right? r-right guys?..
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>>541187750
and no longer obtainable
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>>541186962
>troll set could been good if the mask didnt have a sock attached to it
either remove the sock or put it under the nose, if you look at the troll set from the side, it looks even worse
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>>541188330
You can buy it off the little dragon vendor during panda timewalking though?
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>>541188314
it is real, that goes hard on a fempanda
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>>541188314
It was datamined from MIDWOKE alpha, so yeah pandaren got fucked
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>>541186962
Only good ones are belf and gnome everything else sucks dick even if the idea was good
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>>541187970
Based on this mega private aura system, what other addons could be safe besides Cell?
it could very well be the only addon that COULD be safe now that i think about it
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>>541188373
You can not
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>>541188373
nta but kinda? only legs and chest as robe variant if i recall, the shoulderpad and rest was mop remix exclusive
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>>541186962
Drens got robbed what a shitty h-armor
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>>541188314
>>541188383
Things that get datamined in alpha will usually stay that way until the end.
It won't change so sorry pandafags - you are fucked
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>>541188532
funniest part is that its supposed to resemble this but they tacked on crystals and other garbage
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>>541188262
>do m+ as tank
>going perfectly well, will be in time
>some faggot warlock keeps saying "pull more", "pull more", "pull more" all the time
>ignore it but he starts pulling himself
>gets 4 extra trash packs
>everyone dies of splash damage
>I survive and kite until they come back
>faggot continues saying "pull more" and pulling extra packs and causing others to die few more times
>we miss the timer by 2 minutes because of all the deaths
>would literally be 0 deaths +2 if not that fucking warlock
>mfw
why are people retarded like that
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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/no-more-myth-transmog-appearances-for-solo-delvers-in-midnight/2176044

IT'S OVER
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>>541177424
We are so fucking BACK
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>>541188713
only good change they announced
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>>541188701
it's always a lock or a hunter too
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>>541188863
"Good" change for mythic raiders and no one else
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>>541188713
I fucking kneel.
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>>541188701
>>541188262
>tanksissy gets a little constructive criticism
>has a complete meltdown
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>>541186962
this should had been the night elf heritage armor
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>>541188907
so you mean 0.1% of the playerbase
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>>541188956
yes
a dime a dozen bitch like a dpsissy doesn't get to talk shit
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>>541188774
>windows central
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>>541188907
>good for people who actually play and socialize and make the game better
>bad for the type of retards that got 1 button and class pruning added, hopefully making them fuck off
this is all good
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>>541188956
Not a meltdown, it wasn't my key that got bricked, it's just disappointing to tank a good run and have some faggot ruin it because he knew better.
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>>541189010
sex
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>>541188701
>>faggot continues saying "pull more" and pulling extra packs and causing others to die few more times
>>541188701
>why are people retarded like that
I don't really care about the key bro, I just wanna have fun
sheep circle, sap cross isn't fun
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>>541189035
no more speaking until your role isnt boosted 800 rating tanksissy
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wtf we have a light-version Xally in the Alliance...
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apparently this is the midnight gladiator mount
how we feeling?
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I will NOT use 3rd party combat add-ons
I will NOT use official combat add-ons
I will NOT spoil myself by watching a guide
I WILL wipe the raid until I learn the mechanic or get kicked
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>brewmaster looks like its relatively fixed
>UHDK is fixed
>all healers get their complexity ripped out
>Myth track from delves is fixed
>professions are fixed
>UI are fixed
>Preaches hair is coming back
Midkino it seems. Only thing left is the return of the jailor.
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>>541189194
zamn
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why are we getting housing if it was the one thing wowg and reddit agreed they did not want?
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>>541188713
>mythicGODS no longer need to do lower levels for trannymog
>mountsmogs will have to purchase several full clears with loot transfer to get mythic tints
what blessed day to be a sweat
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>>541189115
he was probably right and tank/heal sissies needed to play better
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>>541189271
I look forward to housing :)
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>>541189073
The people that are making the game "better" barely exist
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>WHITE MEN BAD

>DINDU NUFFIN TROLLS GOOD
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>>541189194
2300
Maybe it's obtainable as a normal person...
I just look at the ratings when thinking about glad mounts, how impossible it is.
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>>541189271
i want housing though
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>>541189314
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>541189259
>professions are fixed
it's still shit
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>>541189194
>another FOMO mount

I SLEEP
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>>541189194
>another protodrake
I sleep
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>>541189331
DAS RITE CRACKKKA
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>>541189331
How can he /spit on Turalyon?
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>>541189331
Damn I read white men were going to be protagonists but What teh fuck is Turalyon and Arator doing in zul'aman?
vgh... white human superiority
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>>541189331
You'd think they got their memo with how people received the retarded Red Dawn story, but they seem to only double down, because ofc they do.
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>>541189331
>spits on Turalyon
bannable offense & no longer possible in modern wow
>arator leaps in the way, taking the hit
this cannot be real
I mean this is blizz but—this just cannot be real
"omg I'm gonna risk fucking dying for a guy who is my enemy because uhhh..."
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>>541189259
>professions are fixed
how?
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>>541189321
which is why midflop is looking like a trainwreck unfortunately
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>>541189331
Are there any good fathers in WoW lore?
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>>541189478
trollbane was being a pussy faggot in that quest dough, he should have killed some orcs.
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>>541189331
Based. I knew we were going to get Kino and they are delivering.
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>>541189345
2200-3000 is literally same skill level
if you could get 2200 it won't make a difference if you need 2300 or 2400 for glad mount
if you couldn't get 2400 now you won't get 2300 either
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>>541189331
>hapa son hates his white father
this is the most realistic writing yet
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>>541189331
Fellas is it racist to not shield an economically disadvantaged home invader with your own body and, after getting fucking shot by your own father, refusing medical care?
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>>541189331
Man, even in intro quests Turalyon is portrayed as super retarded.
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>>541189331
>butcher arator's look with a disgusting gay cringe new haircut every one is memeing on
>proceed to also write him to be an extremely cringe and annoying character that is very hateable
Bravo, character destroyed from the inside out.
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>>541189720
literally who
before midnight announcement nobody even knew who he was
nothing of value was lost
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>>541189331
>leaps in front of his father to potentially die for a several millennium old enemy
?????????????????????????????????????
Man am I glad I checked out of this fucking dogshit 'writing' years ago
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>>541189331
>what we expected: basic bitch Lux Vult, but at least the aesthetic will be cool
>what we got:
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>>541189331
WE MUST BE BETTER MEN
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>>541189331
... and this fucking retard is the main story character with whom you quest throughout all zones of the expansion?
I guess blizz got jealous of all the hate Wuk Lamat from ffxiv got. I'm surprised Arator isn't trans.
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>>541189331
This would be like Legolas leaping in front of Aragorn to prevent him from killing Lurtz at Amon Hen. Why are they so incapable of writing actual characters? Why is everything just a thinly veiled disguise for a millennial activist?
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Why do modern gamers love spoiling themselves
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>This entire Zul'Aman must be purged!
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>>541189331
im tired bros
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>>541188713
It was a dumb system to begin with. If you don't have Myth gear - you should not have Myth appearance. If you don't do activity which awards Myth gear explicitly - you should not be having any of it even visually.
On the side note:
>Fully collecting a class set’s appearances now unlocks all lower difficulty variants. For example, collecting all Mythic appearances will automatically unlock the Heroic, Normal, and Raid Finder variants while unlocking Heroic would only unlock Normal and Raid Finder, etc.
Now this one is GIGAULTRAWIN. No more LFR runs or wasting catalysts on shit-tier items just for the mog.
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>blizzard is making healing easier by remove all skill expression and flavour from the classes
Kinda weird but I'll wait until harder content is in the game before I call blizzard completely retarded
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>>541189331
>>541189987
ngl i am starting to like turalyon
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>>541189656
this
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>>541189987
It's pinging ponging between kino and usual meh.
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>>541189758
Understandable newfags like you have no idea and wouldn't care, but chads remember him from TBC outland donning full judgment armor with his long ponytail, on a quest to find his legendary parents that have been lost to the nether since the dark portal closed. We finally reunited them in legion and he hasn't done anything until now where trannies at blizz decided to make him a main character with a fag-coded haircut, cringe dragon tattoos, and a hapa self insert that seems to hate his dad.
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>>541186962
Night elves won
Draenei won
Dwarves won
Tauren won
Orcs won
Blood elves won
Trolls won
Goblins won
Gnomes won

Undead lost
Humans lost
Worgen lost bigly
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>>541190142
dude he was just an npc afk in the honor hold inn lmao
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>>541190142
>a hapa self insert that seems to hate his dad.
He does not follow Turalyon's orders and constantly disobeys him. Turalyon is irritated by this.
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>>541189987
>>541189331
why the fuck is the kid even defending literal fucking invaders? was he an activist for letting nzoth settle in peace? maybe let the primalists turn the entire planet into cinder because idk, they had valid grievances?
am I just too much of a chud to get it?
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>>541189331
>chud parent needs to be taught to be tolerant by his son/daughter by forgiving his enemies who just want to murder them
They've done this shit THREE times already. Varian, Genn and now Turalyon
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*Sucks your cock*
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>>541186962
best: trolls, dwarves
worst: draenei, undead
also some of the sets lack recolors, like the dwarf one only has 1, but the trolls have 3 color variations
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>>541189331
FFXIV WON
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>>541189331
It seems one of the writers has serious daddy issues. Because we've seen this plot several times before. The kid is good and progressive, but the father is stubborn and mean.
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>273 ensembles to buy in Legion remix
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>>541190245
And he was awesome.

>>541190492
Aura deleted.
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>character assassinate Arator and Turalyon

Yeah, Legion was the last good expansion
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>>541190492
>Father, meet my cute troll bf
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>>541189331
FUCK YOU DAD! THESE BUGS JUST NEED A HU-ACK!
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>>541190460
Liam Greymane is more a story of a prince who never had to deal with much hardship stepping into his role as a leader, he's a natural born leader but they just ended his story by making Sylvanas kill him
Genn should've been the one to die with Liam taking his place, he was already the de facto leader during the invasion
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>>541190460
>varian (son)
kinosovl
>genn (daughter)
poop
>turalyon (son)
kinosovl
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>>541189331
>no father you cannot kill our enemies that have invaded and tried to kill us!
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>>541190601
>And he was awesome.
kill yourself. he literally had no role whatsoever in tbc
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>>541189987
Is Turalyon going to be treated like Hitler in the story? cause it's gonna be funny if he manages to do a genocide and they end up forgiving him
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>>541189576
Unironically, I think varian can be seen as a good father, albiet absent in the early years. I do like the whole he learns temperance from anduin and anduin learns that there are things you must fight to defend. Its really a shame they wrote anduin into being a collosal faggot
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>>541190725
its Amani land
azeroth is native troll land
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>>541190540
I'm getting flashbacks to the "FUCK YOU DAD YOU ARE SO SELFISH SENDING ME AWAY FROM WAR" scene Talia did to Bolvar in SL.
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>>541189331
>risking death for a hated enemy actively invading your lands and killing your people
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>>541190791
he won't survive the expansion
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>>541190492
Holy fuck that's cringe
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>>541190769
>Is Turalyon going to be treated like Hitler in the story?
Yes, he leads all the paladins and priests of Azeroth and is portrayed as a ruthless battlefield commander who puts killing void creatures above saving civilians.
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Turalyon is what Anduin should've been
Not making Anduin become a paladin and be some weird priest with a 2h sword is one of the biggest blunders in WoW writing, and that's saying a lot.
Having a passive pacifist as a faction leader is fucking retarded
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>>541190875
>he won't survive the expansion
this
he will sacrifice himself for the troll leader, and the troll leader will realize he's been in the wrong all the time - racism was always the true enemy, not other people
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>>541190939
>and is portrayed as a ruthless battlefield commander who puts killing void creatures above saving civilians.
Genuinely based. Civilians can't be hurt more by your enemies if you just fucking kill them.
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>>541190690
I was referring to Genn's daughter who likes working with the Forsaken and becomes queen after Genn Chudmayne steps down because he's too mean to the people who murdered his son and countrymen.
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>>541191093
void has pretty much infinite numbers while your own doods are (at least theoretically) much more valuable
it makes sense to sacrifice some lives to win some important battle, but not necessarily to treat them as disposable trash just so you can bonk some irrelevant mooks
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>>541190939
>he leads all the paladins and priests of Azeroth
Tbh I'm shocked. Even girlboss Liadrin is acting as his second-in-command and follows HIS orders.
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>>541189516
>Crafting housing items with existing professions will give skill ups

Not him but maybe that
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>>541191236
infinite numbers means nothing because wow writing is bad
the infinite flight and legion also both had infinite numbers and we just...ignored it and fought their leader
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>addons are kill
I really hope this is true
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>>541189576
me
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>>541191248
this is based btw
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>>541191260
that's nothingburger
professions would be fixed if they changed knowledge catch-up system
it's retarded that you can max enchanting and skinning in few hours, but it takes a year to max out blacksmithing
also DF professions still don't have ANY catch-up other than weekly +10 from dirt piles and quests
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>>541191248
they
are
setting
him
up
to
die

so liadrin can be the big girlboss and save the day
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>>541191236
I mean sure, but "oh no this army has infinite numbers" has never meant anything in wow.
J'lor's army was effectively infinite, same with the Legion. But you just killed the guys, then killed the important commander guy and they went away.
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>>541191236
Turalyon argues with Lor'themar, saying that if they don't counterattack, they will suffer even more losses. Lor'themar disagrees and asks Arator to disobey his father and help the civilians instead. Arator agrees as he doesn't like his father all that much.
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>>541190939
Of course his heroism will be portrayed as a bad thing. Can't possibly let anyone think that making sacrifices in a planetary war could ever be necessary. NOOO DON'T PORTRAY GRIM REALISM OF WAR NOOO AHH IT'S TOO SCARY.
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Addons don't work in Classic either, since Classic runs on Retoilet aka MIDWOKE

It's gonna be a glorious time
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>>541189576
lots of them, their children are worthless faggots who are all basically steven from steven universe tho.
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>>541191302
WoW writers are bad at math. Remember that Turalyon and lightforged draenei spent 10 THOUSAND YEARS fighting Burning Legion before we meet them on Argus in last patch of Legion. This is official lore. Turalyon is over 10k years old. And he still can't get his son's respect lmao.
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>>541178173
that top might be hot on fempandas
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the main campaign start is pretty kino ngl
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>>541186962
BONUS FOLLOW UP QUESTION
Were Allied Race heritage armor any better?
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>>541191525
>And he still can't get his son's respect lmao.
HE IS NOT HIS REAL DAD!!!!!!!!!!
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>>541191525
The current writers clearly never played Legion and just want to push their Commiefornia woke garbage
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>>541191571
Those are mostly good, much better than other heritage armors. With the exception of earthen, it looks like some quest zone random rewards.
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>>541190460
Varian wasnt that though it in essence is similar. They literally set up a trial to execute garrosh and killed pretty much all the old guard of the horde (true horde). The choice was either to continue the war and try and claim all the horde territories which I don't think the alliance benefits from and causes more loses, or agree to a ceasefire. The issue was blizzard writing is actually super retarded and the alliance should have been able to steamroll the horde after the damage they received during SoO so the timespan only makes sense if orcs reproduce and grow like fucking LOTR orcs, it was like 3 years after MoP chronologically, which when you think about it ww1 and WW2 was 20 years apart and it didn't end with their leader/capital in as much dysfunction as what would have happened in SoO
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Father... there is someone I want you to meet.
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>>541191597
>The current writers clearly never played Legion
are you illiterate
the legion writing was just as bad you retard
Infinite army that we ignore
10,000 years together but still having teenage melodrama
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>>541191597
the fuck is woke about this, jeetnigger? in tbc everyone was shitting and pissing that the amani were unfairly treated and that zuljin was justified in what he was doing
if anything this shows that the kid is retarded and/or naive
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>>541191679
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>>541191679
Right playable when?
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>>541191679
Did they give the Amani their noses back?
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>veng's rework looks kino as fuck and seemingly synergizes well with annihilator
>havoc gets sigilslop removed and will work similar to bfa havoc
holy shit demon hunters won
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>>541191424
>i-if i keep telling it to myself it will be true!!
sorry cuck but High Exarch Turalyon is here to stay
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>>541191679
>this is my partner zul'gay they are gender fluid and identifies as a darkspear troll
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>>541191571
yes because funnily enough the allied race heritage felt more appropriate for their race compared to the core races
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>>541189194
Looks way better than Dimmy mount but I'll never do pvp so too bad
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gonna be a bit awkward if it turns out that arator is an unlikable dick and most people would rather side with le autocratic old white male hitlerino turalyon
and given that blizz can't help themselves and make arator look like zoomer trash while turalyon has the cool Light aesthetic it's quite likely it will happen
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>>541188701
I've never seen that in my entire life
Was that a really low level key?
DPS always wait for the tank to pull because they know they are a millisecond away from getting 1 shot by even a tiny critter once you get past 12s
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>>541191879
you're literally the guy in that one meme where he places cardboard cutouts of trannies around him
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Arator questline is about him rejecting his father's toxic ret ways and embracing Liadrin's prot ways. He is later seen with a shield.
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>>541191441
must be a bit awkward being a legion / j'lor mook that is perfectly aware you outnumber the enemy thousands to one and you just sort of... don't do anything while you get reverse invaded and eventually your leader gets fucking killed while you stood by
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>>541191679
>I have nightmares about this happening to my son


I think the most reasonable thing to do in this situation is to clear your head by going out and buying some milk/cigarettes.
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>>541191918
I think most people will side with Turalyon if the posts and shit here are true.
>yes please just let me do some proper fucking violence against the enemy and not be a therapist
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>Hekili Priority Helper
>60,965,262 downloads
Lmfao do WoWlets even play their game? Holy shit, if you can't progress content without using an AddOn to tell you what the fuck to do, have you considered that maybe your skill doesn't align with the difficulty of the content you are on? Either get better or stagnate there.
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Liadrin will be the Horde warchief by the end of the expac
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>>541192128
this fag's pattern recognition is really kicking in.
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>>541192128
>warchief
Woah this is not 2019 anymore. We are all about councils now.
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>>541190939
'lyon is guaranteed cinema
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>>541190540
Maria Hamilton. Single, rainbow kid
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i refuse to play niggerman rf
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>>541186931
>Target capping
>Cooldowns on gcd
>Choosing between damage and a kick because it's wholesome and meaningful choice (still a thing for spriest in tww)
>Multiple mythic raid fights being literally unplayable for priests without external intervention
>Stuns not putting important kicks on cd
Is this good enough for you?
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>>541190492
Imagine going through a teenage crisis past 35.
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>chuds are still playing wow

why?
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>>541190540
Even when the kid is being a shit (like the dwarf woman in tww) and the father is fairly blameless he's still made to be the loser bitch
it's honestly mystifying
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wow they somehow made guardian even worse after ignoring it all of tww
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>>541192461
depends on how you look at it. you could also look at it like the retarded kid deserved it
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>>541192456
I need an occasional break from irl racism
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>>541192090
4chan =/= most people
Reddit, MMOchamp and Twitter have already condemned Turalyon's actions.
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>>541191127
Oh, yea I've checked out of the horrible story since somewhere mid BfA, I don't bother with sidestories
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>>541192456
monogamers who will never leave
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>>541191962
Idk have you met some dh players? I just did a 13 eco-dome where I'm trying to group mobs for a 8mob pull and I'm having to solo control the casters in, and my dh decides to felblade and DPS the sentinel and rips threat from me and then blames me for not having aggro on the mob 40yards away from me.
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The nu writers don't understand that the old characters were likeable because we didn't see them that often and so what screen time they did have was made to be more impactful, now everyone grows to hate the characters that tag along with us everywhere and are clearly designed as the center of the universe for the expansion until the next one comes around and they drop off the face of the earth
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>>541192573
Reddit actually leans heavily towards the "god can we stop with the fucking feelings and emotional crap".
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>>541192098
>change specs
>don't know the rotation
>can watch videos, streams or read guides
>or install hekili
>learn the rotations and priorities via practice and exposure
Hekili does not guarantee you blue or even green parses, it's most useful as a learning tool
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>>541192772
The ceaseless push to remove faction barriers have been a disaster for this game.
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>>541192729
Those are just 4chan chuds masquerading as redditors and AI bots
Real human beings condemn the use of violence to achieve their goals, like not being invaded
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>>541192831
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
Even casuals are tired of the same old peace and feelings bullshit narrative we've been forcefed since shadowlands
People want men of action in the story, Varian, Garrosh and Turalyon, Turalyon is the only one who can actually do that
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>>541191525
>Turalyon is older than real life human civilization
>controls a fucking spaceship orbiting Azeroth and has an army of hot space warrior babes with powerful holy light magic at their disposal
>been fighting the most deadly demon force known to the universe lead by an evil god himself for so long that he should be unstoppable killing machine and most experienced general in the entire setting
>should have gathered endless riches and insane artifacts from all those thousand years of fighting on different planets
>would probably make sense if he became emperor of mankind and led humanity to conquer stars a'la WH40K
>but instead he is written as an angry chud that can't get along with his gay son and beta cυck pussywhipped under Alleria's boot without any real influence
SAD!
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>>541192825
well, his wife IS from silvermoon, so
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>>541192772
okay, so let's get uncucked turalyon as the regent of belfs (somehow)
and arator the pussy zoomer can officially join alliance and.. idk be gay with anduin or something
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>>541186931
>>541192418
>Private auras
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>>541192729
reddit has some of the most boot licking slaves that have ever existed, those drones will never turn on blizzard.

Their king Bellular sucks off blizzard daily.
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>>541192802
Lol nice one
hekilifags don't turn it off, it's not to learn, it's to always have on and never improve on their own
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>>541192965
he's an old, white male chuddy
calm down
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>>541192965
Miss me yet?
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>>541192418
none of these were as detrimental as Artifact Power, Torghast and Azerite power. Not even close. Those sound like extremely priest specific complains which I get but it's not what i'm asking for.
Imagine if Delves were dogshit like island expeditions and everyone hated them, THEN one could say "heh, track record bros!" but saying it now is just dishonesty from sneedlands ptsd
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The same turboshitters who cry about the removal of addons cry about the pruning of the game -- it's genuine doublethink. Being so shit you require addons to tell you what to do at any given point in an encounter, yet pretending you aren't the target demographic of one-button-rotations and the rest of the lobotomite handholding.
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>>541193016
The mantra for the wow reddit is
>No negativity in the dojo
You would think the subreddit is blizzard run like some other games subreddit but fucking hell it's bad. Somehow it makes the 50% porn posts 30% Avatarfag drama here seem informative and useful
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>>541192965
lmfao
if anything, he's more bad ass now than he was back then
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>>541193129
no
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>>541189331
This is fake. No way.

I refuse to believe they're going to make yet another story about a toxic father and his progressive kid.
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>>541193294
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>>541193142
>Spending multiple hours playing weakaura boss because blizzard private auras is less impactful than having to spend 30minutes 3 weeks in a row doing torghast
Yeah idk maybe your retarded.
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>>541193294
>a toxic father
signs of a toxic father: he wants to kill the invaders actively killing his people
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>>541193181
Why can't we go back to garrosh genociding people
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Nu-Silvermoon is YUGE
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>>541193359
why do you keep posting this fake shit
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>>541193490
fr, it's like 4 times the size of dornogal
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>>541193359
I need a citation for this.

Also, why the fuck would she even care about Second War shit? Her side of the family has been gone for thousands of years.
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>>541193142
delves ARE shit and are worse to play than island expeditions but the rewards were massively overbuffed so shitters defend them
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>>541193471
I'm not sure how we got the "FUCK YOU I'D DO IT AGAIN FUCK OFF *deletes himself*" scene in SL.
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>>541193129
This fucking retard helped create the environment where such terrible storytelling comes from
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Human expansion when?
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>>541193142
Delves are worse than island expeditions especially the kino pvp islands.
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>>541193149
Family Battler is misery thanks to all those overlong animations.
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>>541192802
Delusional
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>>541193359
Ah, yes, the black-skinned, turbodyke, half-blind, half-elf amputee looks so much like the white-skinned human.
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>>541193570
>>541193669
retarded fag getting dabbed on by based delvin melvins lol
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>>541192695
I've been saying this since forever, faction leaders showing up was a cool thing before because they rarely did, like when Thrall shows up to talk with Garrosh in BC or the battle for undercity. Now we just have the Azeroth Avengers show up everywhere and do everything which in turn makes all other NPCs be irrelevant too.
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>>541193563
>why the fuck would she even care about Second War shit?
'memberberries
modern wow is a slop written by unskilled transfolx who can't write, which is a problem when 80% of their playerbase consists of deplorable chuds what would cheer if turalyon genocided all the troll savages. so alluding to nostalgic events and names is a sleight of hand to make them hate the nuWrites a little less
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>>541193268
You realize they won't let Turalyon do anything cool, right? You can't sympathize with a problematic character.
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>>541192729
they do, right up until they see that 4chuds and Asmongold are criticising the story, and then they do a 180 and start defending it

blizzard sees this, believes everyone loves the story, and doubles down on it
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>>541193359
If you wanted it to be believable you shouldn't have had her say "my ancestor..." to someone that died 30 something years earlier.
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>>541193702
that's because the retard actually made it up using inspect element, some of these boomers are unhinged when it comes to obsession for a game they clearly hate, this edit fag takes the prize tho
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>>541193016
it is an illusion of boot licking - they are simply banning and deleting anything critical to the game or developers. it is the most heavily censored shithole there is. even class discords are not as bad as r/wow
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>>541193268
>here's the 10k years old legendary paladin hero I've been telling you about
>oh man cool he must be really powerful and awesome what does he do?
>he swings his sword and uses basic paladin skills like level 1 player
>oh....
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>>541193705
I have all the island expeditions achievements and 500 delves achievement and I can definitively say that island expeditions were more fun
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>>541193923
even leddit shits on how liadrin looks in the trailer
things are just that dire when it comes to nuWow
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Turalyon is the only cool character left and they're going to keep destroying him piece by piece
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>>541193938
>island expeditions le good
bait this bad should be a b& offense
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>>541189331
>THEY ARE LITERALLY DOING AN ISRAEL VS PALESTINE METAPHOR
LMFAOOOOOOOOO
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>>541193927
>He is also a proponent of domestic violence and often beats his gay son.
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>>541194054
I never said it was
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>>541193927
Illidan is 10k+ years old too though
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>>541193359
>universe where half of the player characters have some kind of resurrection ability
>characters still die for good and are remembered and honored
IDK if shadowlands filled this plot hole with some kind of Mega Death cause I missed it, but i always thought this was retarded
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>>541186312
where do i sign up
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>>541194054
cope delvenigger
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>>541194087
Deserved
His dad spent a lot of effort and seed to make him and the fag won't even keep his bloodline alive.
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>>541178261
My own clone....
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>>541194054
Delves fucking suck cock bro
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>>541194006
>they're going to kill him!
>they're going to ruin him!
>he's just a chud white guy killing trolls while leading the Alliance crusade, paladins and priests
bigger question is, why do you want him dead? he's pretty cool
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>>541193927
Turalyon is only 1k old
Illidan is the one who is 10k old
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>>541193359
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>>541194229
>>541194275
willing to bet hard cash that none of you play the game
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>>541194147
Player character is canonically like 35 and mogs them all in power level.
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So, Alleria is the final boss of the Void Spire raid. Xally is gonna keep running the entire expansion and Alleria won't die, but they're setting up a father son conflict so when Tyralion dies people will sympathize with his cuck son. I already hate Arator more than fucking Alleria. Oh, and Sylvanus will probably help us fight Xally because she took her spot as foot queen.
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>>541194339
I have 4 characters at 3k Io and mythic raid so you need me to screenshot my characters or something
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>>541194283
>he's pretty cool
Not for long. It's obvious he'll be replaced by Liadrin. There are already hints in the questline that she is a more wiser and levelheaded leader.
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>>541194283
>thinking they're going to ruin him is the same as WANTing them to ruin him
Here's your pity (You)
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>the classic thread died
>again
Heh sound like ian won
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>>541194470
There are no hints of that, why are you making stuff up now weirdo.
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>they're still bringing back this dead meme
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>>541194535
it's common for shitposters to fabricate something and then circlejerk around their made up shit
it's very weird and i guess the point is to kill actual discussion of what's actually real
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>>541194339
there is LITERALLY no way you can defend delves as fun
if blizzard took away the rewards they would be more dead than +18 keys
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>Grand Marshal... what must I do now?
>What a chud must do.
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>>541194339
>You hate delves therefore you don't play the game
Lol
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>>541194586
>if blizzard took away the rewards they would be more dead than +18 keys
People keep saying this but like, no shit?
Take the rewards out of m+ and how many people would do it for fun?
Same with raiding.
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>>541194292
was this retconned? army of the light quests on argus were all about "fighting demons for millenia" not "a millenium"
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>>541194535
Turalyon acts like a field commander and not like a proper leader. Both Arator and Lor'themar say this.
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>>541194586
take rewards out of anything you fucking mong and it's the same. yeah no shit rewards incentivize people to do said content. are you retarded?
i like delves for what they are. a form of progression that is not on a timer or groups. something chill and also moderately challenging you can do on your own time, whenever. ky'veza is a very nice encounter, and i'm all for more 1v1 bosses
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>>541194715
The army of light spent centuries fighting the legion but turalyon wasnt on Argus when they fled
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>>541194789
Could it be because they're at war with 2 different factions?
God the writing is so fucking shit
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>>541194673
People who are doing keys above 13 are doing it for no reward though, how many people do delves for no reward?
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>>541194632
Purging this city with no survivors
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>>541194805
>delves
>moderately challenging
lol what
in s3 fresh lvl 80's can do delve 11 right away
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>>541194789
>equating this to thinking Liadrin should replace him when no one mentions her at all
Liadrin is not even alliance you dumbass retard
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>>541194805
T11 delves are doable in a fresh character there really isn't a progression.
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>>541194908
doubt
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>>541194882
I'd do delves for no rewards if they scaled forever like M+
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>>541194952
>Liadrin is not even alliance you dumbass retard
Turalyon leads the ENTIRE VANGUARD OF ALL KNOWN PALADINS AND PRIESTS OF AZEROTH you fucking moron!
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>>541195023
I don't really see the point in lying
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why do people use gooner tmogs?
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>>541195012
only S1 delves offered challenge and progression, S2 and S3 are a fucking joke that you mindlessly farm to get your weekly gildeds and vault slots
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>>541194576
don't they know it's fucking racist...
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>>541195080
he's also the commander of alliance forces, a role which cannot be taken by someone like Liadrin, a horde character
retard
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>>541194882
>People who are doing keys above 13 are doing it for no reward though
Uh yes they are. Rating? 1% title?
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>>541195080
>doesn't reply to the retarded reach of "bro muh liadrin will le heckin replace 200%!!" after she is ignored
>instead just ad hom
Bro you're beyond pathetic, also you sound 40, not one (You) more unc
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>>541195012
If I use my 80 boost and do a t11 delves will you concede or cope?
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I will be making a red draenei monk for legion remix please do not copy my glam
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>>541195328
Ok
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>>541195328
i will make a lightforged :3
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>>541195127
why not?
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>>541195245
do all of them
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>>541195182
>Score
Cosmetic as cosmetic can get
>Hero title
If your doing a 14 right now you are not getting hero title you are playing for fun
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>we were all making memes and laughing about "Silvermoon expansion, Lor'themar is gonna die!" that we missed it's actually a Turalyon expansion and he's gonna kill Rokhan and Talanji
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>>541195209
Liadrin is better than Turalyon.
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>>541195367
>ME! ME! ME! ME! ME!
>WE MUST MAKE WOW GAY!!!!
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>>541195483
Hey man put those goalposts back where you found them.
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>>541195469
Why all? That's like 11 delves
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>>541195367
Honestly the story might improve if Anduin and Baine were race traitors because they had hard gay sex instead of "muh feelings, muh peace"
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>>541195491
>it's actually a Turalyon expansion
No, it's an Arator expansion. Turalyon is the bad guy that Arator must deal with.
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anduin poopdick
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>>541195491
Lorthemar is one of the most soulless husks of a character but they won't kill him.
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>>541194673
raiding has fuck all rewards nor does M+ past like 12s
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>>541195491
hordelets, kneel
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>>541195367
Today I shall remind them
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>>541195691
twitter trannies love him for some reason
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>>541195758
>Chiddix
>shit dicks
LMAO NO FUCKING WAY
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>>541195587
Idk I gave a pretty reasonable response. Most people who play keys just do it to hit man and have fun, people were doing m+ keys for fun before score was even a thing
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>>541195384
gooning is bad
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GO DADDY TURALYON! GO! GO! GO!
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>>541195547
it was funny to see this guy ratio the fag gnome. the fag has consistently bad takes. he was recently saying that the reduction in game's complexity is actually bad and that the one button rotation helper fixed the problem. imagine being that retarded and not realize that it's a bandaid "solution" to a big issue the game has, which is the arms race between devs and addons
unironically this fag needs to be bullied out of wow, he's a piece of shit with nothing valuable to say
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>>541195707
This guy is trying so hard to be the next asmongold.
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>>541189010
Fucks shotas
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>>541195182
Score is literally not a reward. Its just a group finding reference
Title doesnt exist for almost anyone. Some specs if you arent literally #1 or #2 for your spec in the world you arent getting title
Literally every key between 12s for 3k and actual title keys is worthless and gives you nothing, but is still more popular than Delves would be if blizzard reigned in their reward spoonfeeding
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>>541195758
Looks like a 45 year old sex pest that gets arrested for hanging around outside public bathrooms.
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OUTLAW
>vanish no longer used offensively
oh great
>roll the bones only gives one buff at a time
what the fuck
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he is right you know
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>>541196101
New roll the bones works like this:

You press roll the bones, and you get buffs based on how many stages you roll. Higher stages also give you every previous stages buffs.

Stage 1 is always 20% sinister strike chance
Stage 2 is always sinister strike and ambush generate an additional combo point and deal more damage
Stage 3 is always restless blades is 30% more effective
And stage 4 is always 10% more crit
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What is the average IQ of /wowg/ player?
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>>541196482
130ish
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>>541196482
38
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>>541195954
1button was never ever ever intended to be a solution and only the most intellectually retarded people would think that. Reduction in complexity can be bad but it can also be good, for example cloudburst vs healing stream, one rewards considered usage the other rewards hitting in on cd like a retard, dragging the good player down to the retards level by removing CBT is kinda dumb
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>>541188262
The last time this shit happened I insulted the tank AFTER the run.
It was in DF, nigger tank brought his shitty friend into someone else key, said friend died too many times to simple mechanic and healer was mad at the friend, faggot tank immediately stopped and wrote "if you are not happy you better tank then".
I got a "warning you have been reported" like 1 hour later on a relog.
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>>541196601
>>541196563
So on average it’s 82?
Sounds about right
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>>541196482
People specifically in my HC pugs? prolly sub 50
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>got right instead of left
lol
lmao
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>>541195919
see how I got INSTANTLY proven right? -> >>541195927
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>>541196626
me too! I lvoe your fem nelf dh! now post your sloppa folder
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>>541196753
the left one is problematic
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>>541196398
So it's basically red insight 2.0? Combat bros we are coming home
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>>541196307
>WHY ARENT YOU CRYING ABOUT NORMAL SEX!?!?!?!?

because its normal and required for humanity to exist.
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>>541196629
Fun fact: as a high io tank I occasionally boosted people in other people’s keys
just grab the boostie, apply to a bunch and go for it. most assume you carry a buddy, not that you’re being paid
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>>541196626
how does she get captured so often
also panty check, if I were to be behind her what would I see?
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I'm so devastated. They turned Turalyon into a crazy villain. How could Metzen allow this to happen?
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>>541196753
I remember all the cope about that when the skins came to the PTR
>they won't actually be the menari they'll be cleansed of their fel corruption!
But then it turned out, nope they are just the manari. Even the NPC you do quests for about it that also turns up in the Draenei heritage is fel cracked. We just don't get them because ????
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>>541196937
>How could Metzen allow this to happen?
You do realize he's behind all this in the first place?
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>>541196813
I'm hoping it works like an evoker spell so you can roll 4 before pull then use kir to extend and rape the boss forn minute also combo points are going to flow now that you have 65% chances to proc oppo.
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>>541189331
ITS OVER FOR WOW AND MIDNIGHT
THIS SHIT IS ENOUGH
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>>541197007
People think Metzen is in 2003 for some reason.
And not a mellowed out family man who is allergic to excitement.
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wow needs a gay class where you dps by using your poz cum and you can also tank by letting the enemies hit your gaped asshole this would be very conducive to the story as well
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>>541196937
metzen has been corrupted by nucali
now he has to atone for being white male adjacent
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>>541197268
>a gay class
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>trolls invade silvermoon, murderig a bunch of dudes
>turalyon fucks them up in response
>his kid almost commits suicide by cop by defending the troll leader with his own body
>just… completely out of nowhere
>because he’s angry that his father uses violence against trolls (who are in the middle of invading elflands)
wow truly is one of the written games of all time
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>>541197189
He also agrees with 99% of what you would call "woke" stuff in WoW from the little that we've seen. His real concern is just the general direction of the story, not so much the characters or the content.
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>>541197268
that's literally dracthyr
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>>541197396
elves stole magic from trolls
so they deserve it
trolls are the righteous owners of the elf clay
they were simply there before and that's all that matters
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HUMILIATION RITUAL
WHITE MEN BAD
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>>541196937
>How could Metzen allow this to happen?
This isn't late 90s early 00s Metzen anymore
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>>541197268
Have you heard of augmentation evoker?
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>>541197416
I'm somewhat convinced having a daughter saps you of all testosterone.
I know a guy that used to be the edgiest metal head and he had a daughter and is now the most bland white bread ass person I know.
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>>541197268
yeah thats called warrior
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>>541197416
He was the one behind covering up Sylvanas because her navel was too problematic back in Legion, he's been like that for a while. I also doubt he actually has much input in the writing, he just shows up to hype up retarded boomers.
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>>541197631
it's your body preparing you for the fact that you made a daughter just so another men can fuck her, very rough stuff.
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>>541197631
Well yeah you have to grow up when you have kids unless you're some kind of n word.
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bdk has slappy hands back
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>>541195954
the fag does get bullied all the time but he is immune or something
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>>541197878
Yeah but it's sharing node with the new op grasp.
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>>541189331
Can someone explain to me exactly why this is bad? Honestly and without sarcastic remarks.

Turalyon is finally getting character development that, after reconciling with his son, will allow him to become a much better leader and a better person.
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>>541197878
cool but we’re not buying midnight
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trolls...
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>>541198024
and it also doesnt do damage anymore. just pulls
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>>541198080
doombrowns trying to paint anything negatively, but because there's barely anything negative at all about Midnight then they just make stuff up such as >>541193359
Severe mental illness
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>>541189331
Oh look it's the setup for Zul'jan being an evil reactionary chud that will stoop to anything to defeat the blood elves at all costs and we must ally with his progressive vaguely stern white bread personality sister to stop him
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>>541198080
It's bad because turalyon is actually doing something cool for once and he has nagging bitches around him complaining about him doing something cool.
That's the problem.
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>>541196937
Did you play SC2?
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>>541198080
Because I am sick of "oh I have learnt that violence bad and emotions good please forgive me" stories in a video game where the primary gameplay is killing things.
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>>541189010
consider the following:
It is the Night elf Heritage armor.
You just have to hide the pants and legs.
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>>541197035
The issue I have with outlaw is basically exactly that. It results in basically a cooldownless fury warrior (which is like the worst possible niche). It's also kinda why outlaw has basically never been good in raid unless it's the certified AOE padfest and even then sometimes loses to sub and assa. If it has an eb and flow with control (like what deep insight had) you can line your powerful moments up with mechanics and do some useful shit (red insight killing spree adds on thogar was kino). It's weirdly like reverse sub where sub can play so many different ways to work with any mechanic lineup.
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>>541197878
Only bdk?
unreal if true
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>>541198080
>>541198260
This. Why must everyone get along? Why must there always be a savior? Why is slaying your enemies bad? Why is vengeance or retribution bad? Sometimes it feels like we're playing a Disney game. It's always hope, peace, love, and family recently.
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>>541198363
Yeah I'm pretty sure assa will be the broken spec next season because it went full retarded mode like bm
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>>541198080
>ja’mal who dindu nuffin for millenia comes to murder your people
>killing ja’mal is an unthinkable evil for some reason, so your gay son almost fucking dies shielding him with his own body
>ja’mal escapes as you son is bleeding to death, presumably to raise more troops for another attack
this makes as much sense as random dudes joining the primalists in dragonflight, because seeking justice by destroying the entire planet makes perfect sense in response to the titans being dicks to some elemental dragons 10000 years ago
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>>541198080
yeah I agree jump in front of your dead whos about to shoot a home invader that is raping your family
totally normal and good stuff
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>>541198080
>Turalyon is finally getting character development that, after reconciling with his son, will allow him to become a much better leader and a better person.
They're clearly making Turalyon out to be the villain in the next patch. His only redemption is death.
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Modern WoW writing for questing be like
>we must not be violent and learn to be tolerant of others!
>quest objective: kill 15 guys and burn their food stockpiles
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Draenor..
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https://www.youtube.com/live/jSN5HtFkvIg?si=l0noqusfhOOUVahF&t=1450
>addons still be able to customize look and feel of raid frames
Cellbros we're so back
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>>541198080
>a better person
WE MUST BE BETTER MEN
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>>541198080
There is nothing wrong with that. It’s just sad that turalyon doesn’t know the value of mercy for hostile invaders (in the middle of them invading) after spending ten millenia in an endless war. I’m glad better men like Arator are here to show him what’s right.
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>>541196920
>how does she get captured so often
She can't help herself from helping lowbies
https://files.catbox.moe/0sdloh.png
https://files.catbox.moe/mwmdsm.png

The model struggles with the back view for the stocks but I tried
>>541196784
I'm too busy gooning all the time to figure out the catbox album thing
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who even cares about wow story in the year of our lord 2025
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>>541198910
This. You shouldn't even capture your enemies, just let them go so they can think about what a bad thing they did so they can become better people.
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>>541198710
It's more schizo than even that because the quest prior to that will be like
>champion, due to the megafreeze caused by the void eating the sun, we desperately need new blankets for the people. take these shears and gather wool from the sheep outside, but be certain that they are comfortable during the process!
>5 minute sheep shearing minigame where you give them hoof manicures and get factoids about the emotional states of sheep because the quest writer's roommate's cousin's husband told them about their sheep farm once
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>>541198337
megasex
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>>541199057
I cared for Turalyon story cause he is my favourite but now i dont care anymore
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>>541199232
0/10 falseflag
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>>541198080
newfags
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>>541198824
If this was said a day ago why retards were crying about cell everywhre?
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>>541199057
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>>541189331
you think you're self righteous dad? watch THIS!
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>>541199172
>it's a 25 quests long questline about bees because a dev is a hyperfixated autist
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BE BETTER
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>>541199420
Cell will 100% not exist. It ticks almost every single thing blizz is seething about. Being able to customize the color of your bars is not why healies use cell.
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>>541199403
Oh please, Turalyon went to multiple different planes and realms chasing down enemies he wanted to murder. Why? For retribution. That ship sailed ages ago.
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>>541189331
>devs watched transformers one
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>>541189331
WOKEnight is going to be a DISASTER
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>>541199574
>this is MC of midnight btw
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>>541199575
>https://www.youtube.com/live/jSN5HtFkvIg?si=l0noqusfhOOUVahF&t=1450
>>addons still be able to customize look and feel of raid frames
>still coping about cell being removed
For what?
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>>541189331
HOLY METZEN KINO!!!
DEFINITLY BETTER THAN WC3 BEST SCENES LIKE ARTHAS KILLING HIS FATHER!!!
WOW IS SO MUCH BETTER!!!!
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>>541199574
>Anduin finally gets over his shit
>devs immediately write a new Conflicted Lightwielder That Is Loved By and Sympathized With By Every Character In The Setting
lol.
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>>541199737
dude, no one uses cell just for the look and feel, people use it to be able to see specific debuffs/externals/tank CDs and also color code debuffs that the healer can deal with. At the time stamp he LITERALLY says that they cannot do logic that is related to current debuffs, which is the whole boon of something like cell.
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>>541199574
Did they have to give him such a faggoty haircut
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>>541199835
That's added crutch, the main reason is that it feels way better than default raid frames, and all crutches such as that are being removed so Cell is gonna be just Cell, not cell + weakauras
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>>541199813
>Anduin finally gets over his shit
It happened fucking off screen too. I don't understand it.
Why did they just eject Anduins "I am so fucked up and have father issues" plotline and immediately do it again for Arator?
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>>541199813
They've been doing this for 20 years now, just recycling the same story beats and characterizations over and over.
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>>541199813
>>541199953
Don't worry Anduin is present in Silvermoon
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>>541199953
ADHD writers constantly get bored halfway through their stories and just want to start on something new. WoW dev culture is "the designer is always right" so there's no leadership or vision to whip them into shape which is why the actual main story is like 30 minutes long and then we get 4 hours of silly animal facts questlines that the autistic woman writer is obsessed with IRL
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>Dragonflight
FAMILY
>TWW
FAMILY
>Midnight
FAMILY
>TLT?
Hmmm
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>>541199010
im utilize this free use dh nelf
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>>541199918
>so Cell is gonna be just Cell, not cell + weakauras
just cell is fucking useless and you’re either baiting or are an actual retard
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>>541200102
>worlds of talk about my feelings craft
>dragonshite ending ridiculed and compared to my little pony
grim
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>>541200102
And they will never change course because they can just characterize the criticism as coming from chuds and therefore invalid
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>>541200231
I still think the infinity war "everyone arriving from portals" scene is the most embarrassing thing wow has ever done.
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>>541189010
>>541198337
made for orcs
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>>541200395
got a link to this?
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>>541200346
Looks good
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NU
>>541200465
>>541200465
>>541200465
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>>541200346
Turalyon looks great tho
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>>541199737
my man he explicitly says that addons would be able to customize look of things in general, but addons would not be able to apply customizations based on combat events:
>color/marks based on debuffs
>dynamic health/resource frame coloring
>highlight player use of defensives and cooldowns of those spec-specific filtered defensives
>highlight players affected by aoe heals
>highlight players targeted by enemy cast and which exact casts those are
>display visual indicator when player has used potion/healthstone/self-healing
>filter-out very specific healer buffs and buff stacks that you ACTUALLY care about and not some random shit like fortitude buff
>position and size of all those buffs and debuffs
>etc etc etc
there is a lot more shit to healing than just mouse click casts or mouseover casts. people who think that [@mouseover,exists,help,nodead] replaces an addon like cell or healbot or vuhdo or whatever - are just delusional
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>>541200102
>taelia and bolvar
>tessa and genn
>anduin and varian
>jaina and her mom
>talanji and rastakahn
>dagran and magni
>arator and turalyon
Holy fuck daddy/mommy issues never end
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>>541200929
Clearly the sign of a well adjusted dev team.
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>>541200929
What happens when libtard parents don't beat the shit out of their daughters, you get shit writers
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>>541200929
Mostly daddy issues tho
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>>541200929
This is why you need to beat your kids every now and then



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