Fresh Changes Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-02-2025-update.84332/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>541151819
slutty poppins
PRIESTBROS....BOHOSISTERS....
what does this mean
mina got buffed btw because she has more mobility, her actual damage to players is pretty much the same, and you can no longer CC stun her to death as easily
someone post match id RN i swear on the djinn...
>huge Victor buffsactually exciting
>>541236876No tower cheese= nerf
Why are they buffing the new heroes that are already strong, makes me think the old heroes might get rework since they already feel outdated anyway
>>541236876BRAVO YOSHIDEADLOCK IS SAVEDNIGHT SHIFT FINNA BE LIT AS FUUUCK
>Vyper: Slither now leaves a green trailThis bitch is leaking pussy juice all over the map
>Mina kicks you with her heels as her heavy meleeSEXSEXSEXSEEEEEEEX
>>541236843before, after the first mid boss kill you would get an extra rejuv, now everytime you kill mid boss there should only be 3 rejuvs
>>541236876>more mobilityher blink cooldown was nerfed by 3 seconds
>>541237126oh I thought the entire team got one
>Mina float can be chained from jump pads or zip to maintain movement speedholy fuck can her still ceiling get any higher? i love it
shiv got nerffed, as he should
>>541237063How will whitebois survive locktober?
Waiting until you retards realize Mina is now much easier to knockdown. It's going to be hilarious.
>>541236939>retarded shipping picture>reddit filenamekys
eat shit nigger, HIIYAHH
>he still hasn't realized the spirit mirage meta with cdr on mark and duration
>>541237250>Posts made from a better timeline
Viel walker at lvl 12 with heal booster still heals for quite a decent bit.
>>54123714230 seconds instead of 27 isn't changing how often she does it to escape a fight and now she can fly around with her new float and actively save the blink for when she needs it
why do they keep fucking with vindicta's flight duration?being in the air longer just makes them focus you, whilst you tickle them
Wake me up when the next Round of Inhouse is ready
>Shooting while jumping now applies a -10% accuracy penalty for 0.15s after landing.>Consecutive wall jumps now require 0.5 stamina (the first jump in the sequence is still free).SCHMOVEMENT BROS HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT THIS???
>>541237592yeah but when she gets the upgrade it's what, from 18 to 21?
Vyper changes are mostly good but pic related i'm particularly mixed on:1: gives the vibe that they REALLY want you to build some spirit on her2: basically punishes you for sliding when you go t3, since you'll end up putting the ability on CD by accident just be sliding around the mapdagger changes are nice, and t3 venom applying on objectives may be something they come to regret
This kinda scared me
>>541237638In theory she should be flying so high that their damage fall off negates a lot of fire. In oractice, niggers are too lazy too fly high
>>541238024WARNING, THE INFERNUS ISNT BEING LANE CAMPED, WARNING EEEEWUOOOP EEEWUOOP
>>541237932>2: basically punishes you for sliding when you go t3, since you'll end up putting the ability on CD by accident just be sliding around the maponly the shield is on cooldown, the rest remains the same
>Nigfernus gets away completely untouchedYoshi needs to be drawn and quartered
>>541237751it's over...I'm going back to apex and I'm going to reach pred this time...it's not fair bros...there goes my gaming career...
i dont like it when u guys say the n word
>no miku buff
Im jumping and holding right click but im not getting any kind of "float" ?
>>541237751It's not enough inaccuracy so its probably be a gay bunnyhop meta
>>541238237She got indirectly buffed from the blank gun buffsShe will probably be even more aids to play against now
This is pretty neat.>>541238361I don't know what to tell you.
>>541238106I know, what i'm saying is instead of walking around like other characters, on Vyper you just tend to slide constantly. But if you do that you'll put the shield on cooldown which doesn't feel good.
>>541238146just wait until the friends of humanity hero is introduced and he'll light a cross with infernus m1 and hang him in an infernoose
>>541238237asking for miku buffs is a form of suicide, shes playable right now, that should be the best you hope for from her and you keep your head down and go unnoticed as long as you can
schmoovement and ivy nuclears BTFO
>>541238520haha she's literally slutty poppins now
>>541238537I agree
Rat Ivy got datamined in the patchWe dodged a bullet
>gun damage from items buffed overall>all good spirit items nerfed into the groundso uh... i take it that this is a gun patch?
>>541238643anything else datamined?
>>541238675every patch is a gun patch
>>541238159>he still plays tranny apexkysthat game has insane accuracy loss while jumping what you smoking trannoidalso yeah go fucking back
The patch is overall good but the only meaningful it does right now is heavily nerf mina as an ult bot, pretty much kills veil walker as must pick meta item, and maybe makes vyper good enough to work it's way into the meta idk it's hard to tell. That's not to downplay the good stuff, just that they don't have huge affects on either the meta or the majority of gameplay. Also no halloween stuff!!
>>541238643wtf ivy is hot now
>>541238643Who's hamster is this?
Are they really fucking saving Priest for Halloween?
>Lash: Ground Strike range reduced from 11m to 10m>Lash: Ground Strike cooldown increased from 19s to 21s>Lash: Ground Strike damage reduced from 70 to 60goddamn, the devs could've at least made one of Grapple's upgrades give an extra charge or something.
>>541238875yeah what we got was way better
>>541238643>>541238875errm..cheesed to meet you?
funny how fast gun ivy got nerfed relative to how long it took for people to figure out it was broken
>>541238024
>>541239068ivy being strong takes a while because non ivy players need to play it to figure it out
>>541239068Gun ivy has been stupid meta like 4 times throughout this games life. It'll happen again.
>>541239068ivy players have been gaslighting dlg for the past year that she was weak
>>541238675>Gun damage buff only starts at 9.6k investment>Only sees a major different at sixteen fucking k spentWhat are you on about retard. Cultist got nerfed and the buffs to any gun items didn't buff gun DPS or anything.
Doesn't look like there are any new match start conversations, sadly.
YOUR KINGDOM COMEYOUR WILL BE DONEON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN
>broken>shit>broken>shit>broken >shit
>>541238464that just means all the other gun carries are still better than her
>>541236841no new hero's this month :(
>>541238675I hope you enjoyed the 1 out of 12 spirit patches
mina cbt...
>>541238024When does this damage warning appear?
>>541239649God imagine how fucling hot this would be if we can see under he skirt.
>>541239649>your remind me of my daughter in law...
>>541239649if you heavy melee viscous in his ultimate there appears an x ray shot of him popping like a grape and dying instantly
So is Vyper better now? She has the hottest voice in the game so I wanna use her
>>541239649Gotta hand it to Valve, they really made her the biggest cunt bitch.
>>541239848try her out and see, pussy
vyperbros...we are not bottom of the food chain trash anymore...
Herald
>>541239848but she sounds like my mom...
>>541239942PROTECT ME AT ALL COST
>>541239993Your mom sounds hot as shit anon
>>541239848She was pretty good before 2bh, the playerbase waits until something is overbuffed to play it and idk if we are their yet
>>541239649No
>>541239664when you shoot the dummy, does not prevent you from buying items
>>541239848We just need snake tits...
>>541240073mina vs green abrams
>CC stacking nerfedOH NO NO NO NO MOBABROS WE LOST
cooldown items seem to break the cooldown refund on vyper's max level knifewithout them you can sort of machine gun knives, but with them there's a second delay between throws.rapid charge does it the worst
>>541240069
Maxed out Screwjab Dagger with Extra Charge on Vyper is kinda nifty. But it reminds me too much of Shiv's knives. At least it gives Vyper a little more mechanical depth, I guess.
hurry up and snowball already i wanna play
>>541240354Stacking slow is unironically what I wanted them to give shiv's knives as a rage bonus.....
Hi I'm new how to do I stop fire negro from naruto running at me and burning everything
fortitude got slightly nerfed because now it gives you less health compared to extra health. lionheart bros...
>>541239540Animgraph2 is the animation system right
So is spirit mirage back? CDR affecting his marks is actually pretty huge
>>541240490slowing hex when he - wait no he just pressed the button before the hex connected and he's gone, sorry
>>541238875They avoided reddit riots.
>>541240490slowing hex turns the ability off. he cant parry while running at you so you can also just punch him in the face if he's trying to driveby you. any character with a move that pops the enemy upwards also really cucks it
>>541240354they feel sufficiently different in effect considering she namedrops shiv while throwing themVyper has burst damage knives while Shiv has sustained damage
veilwalker tryhard bros.......... what now??
>>541240490Didn't you play the floor is lava as a kid? Should be self explanatory man
>>541236637Why buff her? She seems overpowered now...
>>541240627yes the new one they have slowly be convernting old hero's to, pirest already be here means priest soon I'm thinking
>>541240883wh*te boi summer is over. bow to your new queen.
>>541240489>leaping slash cylinder height increasedFUCKING FINALLY
>>541240789back to fortitude, duh
>>541240641Yea its big, also brings back ricochet cause you can actually stack it in 5s instead of 10
Repeat after me>I will not do damage as Abrams>I will not use my ult for anything besides awkwardly running away>I will stand near my team soaking up hits while shooting people for chip damage and sometimes stun people so someone else can kill them>I will swap to Billy or Victor if I don't find this playstyle fun
>>541240883>49% win rate>drops to 47% at high ranks>over powered
>>541240883Same reason Infernus and Mina's Love Bites didn't get touchedSame reason Kelvin got his Spirit buffedSame reason Mo, Grey Talon, Abrams, and Billy got slaps on the wristYoshi is retarded
>>541241109Abrams is still S tier. If you think he was only good because le melee combo then you're a noob
>>541240883calico is 100% a dev pet, the new hideout you spawn into is literally hers
>>541241224>Same reason Kelvin got his Spirit buffedthey really don't want you running gun kelvin lmao
Last time I play an Inhouse this earlyEuropoors are fucking horrendous
>>541241343I had fun
>>541241343mad cuz u lost
good job shuffling retard now we have to wait for the AFK spectator to leave so we can fill the spot
>>541241293>they really don't want you running gun kelvinThey barely touched that and then buffed weapon
Seems like this is a prep patchDataminers are finding stuff valve is readying for whatever
>>541241251i'm very aware that he's S tier because he has tons of healing and can phantom strike + charge to be bootleg mo/krill that you can use several times a teamfight instead of just once.it's still fucking boring, nobody wants to play the big hellboy guy just to be as much of a puppydog supportbitch as paige who just sits and enables everyone else to have fun. he actively gets weaker by using his ult now because you're cucking your teams CC chain ability for the literal wost stun in the game so you just never press this button now if you want to be le minmaxed S tier abrams player. fuck off
>>541241293doesnt matter i'll always play gun kelvin. Never touched spirit once in nearly 200 kelvin games
>>541236939my issue with this is that it uses vyper's current model
The best part about playing games with /vg/ is that 90% of them suck ass so you can fuck around with silly builds
>someone pauses every game without failWhy
>doorman's door just works nowHOLY SHITYESSSSSSS
I want to try playing Vyper now. Are there any spirit items that are good for her?>>541241275>the new hideout you spawn into is literally hersIs it, though? Sure, Ava is there, but so it Grey Talon's owl. And both are smaller than the real deals.
>seven/warden and mo are objecrively overturned heroes? lets nerf wall jumpswhat the fuck is yoshi's problem?
Ok but in all seriousness who had a problem with wall jump spamming? I think everyone is in agreement that it's fun and shouldn't be nerfed.
InHouse results?
>>541240286tested more.even with the added cooldown between knives, with rapid recharge or superior cooldown you can have a constant stream of knives.I used superior since it's the same cost.without items you can rapidly throw 4 knives, with a short delay to a 5th.superior lets you throw about 6 knives, with a 1.3 second cooldown, before you have to wait for more charges.rapid recharge lets you throw 12, but has a 3 second cooldown between throws.both items together lets you throw 15 knives but you have to deal with rapid recharge's longer cooldown.plain ol' extra charge doesn't break the refund, or the increase is so small I can't notice.you can throw 6 knives with extra charge.
!!!UPDATE!!!
>>541236637>* Rescue Beam: Cast range increased from 28m to 32mSupport bros, we are so back.
>>541241745It's actually Sinclair's according to the rabbit easter egg which means you're always playing as him imitating someone else DEEPEST LORE
>>541238643Tbh I’m surprised there’s no rat hero. It’s New York.
>>541239649Can someone try doing a downward dash into an aerial Mina heavy melee? I want to see if it's similar to a Rider kick. I'm at work right now and can't do it myself.
>>541241740Wait really? You can just place it no problem now?
>>541241849t. The Lash
>>541241740Eggsplain yourself
Reply to this post when the inhouse match ends. I want to join the next one
>>541242040yeah I ran around for a few minutes with it on quickcast no cooldown and it only failed when I was aiming out of bounds, test it out
>>541242084No I just always enjoy seeing someone panic spam in a corner as they slowly get lower and lower to their deatha
victor seems a bit strong no?
>>541238643looks betterput her in the game NOW
>>541241890aaaaand immediately fixed
Started playing gun kelvin 2 days ago and it was so fucking fun, best time ive had with this game in forever and now its useless a day later.
Anyone got a nice spirit kelvin build>>541241293Which is weird because between the dome, point blank, and hunters aura there’s a strong argument to be made for 1v1 cage match gun kelvin.
>>541241849seethe schmoovement nuclear
>>541241849a lot of competitive games suffer from the tyranny of the midwits. the idea that there's advanced tech they could be doing but aren't really bothers them. rather then just admit they're suboptimal and not giving a shit or getting good they would rather it be removed entirely.the common statement is some variant "I could do X, I just don't find it fun" or "if this was (game where X doesn't exist) I would smoke you".
>Lady Geist: Essence Bomb spirit scaling increased from 1.07 to 1.22Bomb bros we won
>>541242614and then there's retards like you who think stalling in the air forever is high skill or good gameplay
>>541242438Karry Kelvin is the only way to play deadlock
>>541237932My dreams of spirit viper being a real build are coming to reality
>>541242614it was just given a slight stam cost, calm down retard
>placing doors isnt jank anymoreDOORCHADS ARE BACK
>Kudzu nerfed againWhat is Icefrog's problem, her spirit build was already bad
>>541243073now that doors aren't dogshit, what's the best use for them
>>541242360well shit.now, only rapid cooldown affects the time between knives. from 5 seconds down to 3
>>541243134>spirit ivynoob, it was nerfed because when you build gun ivy it does insane damage without a single purple item
>>541240883Mo&Krill still has 3600 HP from boons alone.Their test team is stoo small to have any real good changes happening.
>>541243134kudzu weas doing a ton of damage without a single point of spirit added to it.
Items to buy:>Rebuttal (comically overstatted, get against anyone who even looks like they're going to punch you)>Blood Tribute (was already OP, they buffed it even more because nobody buys it, will be the next veilwalker/cultsac)>Rusted Barrel (extremely cheap for what it does, lets you trade against heroes that shoot a lot in lane for free, and shreds resist even more now)
>>541237438I think the retarded one is you if you think the joke of the comic is about shipping.
>>541236637>no infernus nerfs>no haze herfs>no significant gay talon nerfs>no significant mina nerfs (the gay building shit should have been hotfixed weeks ago)>no significant seven nerfs>no dynamo nerfs>no holiday nerfs>nerfs to the movement againthis better not be the only patch this month
>>541242614>>541242818see what I mean? "I don't think it's good gameplay", aka I don't find it fun so it's a bad game if it stays this way and only "retards like you" think its high skill aka I could easily do it if I wanted to, honest.the problem with this is that these people never have an end goal, there will always be a new thing they're complaining about as the reason why they're losing. it leads to games like league of legends where they removed literally everything that anyone complained about and the game is boring grey slop that appeals to nobody besides dopamine addicts
>>541241745Anyone? I want to snek.
>>541243134It’s spirit scaling was increased it’s even stronger on spirit builds now.
>>541243481the problem is that air stalling your way out of encounters or just even wasting time on fat heros like abrams or mo is lame and not even high skill.
>>541243134It's like an overall nerf of like 11 dps base. She now gains more spirit overall, so it doesn't matter. Her stone form was massively improved, spirit scaling is now 50% stronger. Overall a buff for spirit ivy.
>Vyper is literally Shadow Demon nowI swear someone in this general has called it
>vyper's 1 gets reworkedOh nice, it was her most boring spell>it's now even more similar to Shiv's daggershopoo...
>>541240073Why did I find this scene so hot
>>541243617the problem is that you are allowed to live among humans you gay baby
>>541243383Yeah blood tribute was already good last patch. It's not universally useful like veil walker though, you have to be both a left click build and be a hero that is in the fight enough that the debuff resist pays dividends.
>>541243134these last 2 weeks have shown me ivynuclears deserve nothing except disappointment
>>541243798look. I won. you lost. kneel.
>>541243383The winrate on Rusted is abysmal, I think people only buy it after feeding
>>541243896you're supposed to upgrade it
>Mina nerfsI'll take my apology now.>Kelvin gun nerfsWhere's that nigger who tried to argue with me that it wasn't played let alone OP, I'll take an apology from you too.>Gay Talon nerfsYea that's another one. Real tired of you niggers trying to tell me I'm wrong on anything. It's hard being the only person here above Oracle. >Calico and Paige buffsI already had a 55%+ winrate on both this is gonna be nasty. >ItemsVeilwalker and Cultist had it coming. Still a bit strong imo. Counterspell nerfed again if it goes any lower you won't be able to parry 2 bombs. Item still strong as fuck though. I genuinely can't believe splitshot and Eshift did not get fixed with their retarded interactions on specific heros. This better not devolve into a "feature" because I'm tired of seeing all 3 of these builds already.
>>541237468they couldn't make it any more obvious that mina is some dev's favorite, huh?she even randomly got a new mechanic this patch when she was supposed to get nerfed.
Glad they buffed spot radius for shadow weave, was pretty stupid being a worse invis than veilwalker
>>541243641Speaking of Dota 2, do you think something like facets or Aghanim's Scepter upgrades will be a thing?
Either remove urn and give a better comeback mechanic, or make it so enemies can't take a comeback urn for a bigger lead.
>Abrams nerfs>Lash nerfs>Vindicta buffs>Infernus untouchedAre you serious with this shit
>>541243617Does this cause you to lose? if not, who gives a shit? if it does, you will eventually end up in the rank where nobody is bothering to do this stuff and be happy>b-but I DESERVE to have a bigger video game rank your value is not tied into what deadlock rank you have, get over yourself and stop demanding the skill ceiling of the game get reduced because of your feelings
>>541242438>ONE, ONE FUCKING DAMAGE A LEVEL REMOVED>ONE, ONE FUCKING BULLET FROM HIS 15 SIZED GUN CLIP>USELESS! USELESS!!! REEEE!Shut the fuck up man. I dont get people like you, people that will look at a dota update and see that someone lost like 0.01% of one skill and think that kills him
>>541244091Vindicta was the worst character in the game by far
>>541236637>we heard your criticisms of how victor is a trollpick. >So we've made him unbeatable heinously broken to remedy this error.Thanks you fucking retards.
why does seven get an innate 15% spirit resistance anyway?
>>541244032maybe when we get a broodmother hero, but since this is a third person game and not topdown, it'll be more like Calico's old turrets where they are stationary with long range.
>>541244118lower your tone when your lame mechanic gets nerfed
Is gun victor viable now?
>>541244182He was killed with spirit damage and came back.
>>541243520Isn't the scaling unchanged but she has like 2 more spirit from boons by endgame
>the devs buffed Derrickjfc these people are not real
Any Cadence/Succubus news?
>Mina's ult CD untouched>Mina's ult mobility untouched
i'm gonna go i'm gonna splat!
>>541243489>>541241745The 4th or 5th public build is a decent spirit one for nuking single enemies. Idk if itll work with new knives, you probably want something more traditional since you can shiv stack knives now
reset lobby for udpate ?
Update on Steam, do we leave the inhouse for it?
>>541244359she no longer shreds objectives as fast so its still a massive win.
>>541244091I keep telling you, the team behind Deadlock are minority hires who want to buff the nigger characters and nerfs whites!
>>541244091Abrams and Lash were strong and Vindicta was weak though?
>>541244413You have to06G9X06G9X06G9Xheres the new one
>>541244470Lash was close to perfect, now he does no damage. Abrams too strong. Vindicta buffs were ok.
talk about fucking nothing update
>>541244320>Bingle untouchedgonna blow a fucking gasket
>>541244502you can just rejoin the previous one, stupid
>>541244413just update and then rejoincode: ZZTR6
>>541244278its 1 am so I can't test tonight but it was already viable and now with the gun velocity item buffed he's better early and his ultimate got nice changes. spirit victor scaling got nerfed but self damage tuned down.
>>541244254You post like a histrionic woman. you will continue to cry when the new thing people are doing to get an edge beats you instead of just accepting you're bad at a video game and that's okay.
>>541244032>Speaking of Dota 2, do you think something like facets or Aghanim's Scepter upgrades will be a thing?No, Dota 2 is so fucking overly bloated the new gimmick of the year making the new player experience hell.
>>541243383The buff to blood tribute is near meaningless because it's a toggle.
>>541244091>>Abrams nerfs>>Lash nerfsthese two are insanely broken characters tho whats the issue
>>541244508Give the patch some time before you make claims like this Lash has been "dead" according to retards here so many times before
I dislike the abrams shoulder charge nerf because it primarily effects his laning which was already mid as shit, I think he'd be fine with just the lifesteal changes.
>>541244645>>541244470they didn't nerf the parts of abrams and lash that are actually bullshit (the CC/sustain) and instead just made them dedicated CC robots that can't do damage. do people really like the idea of every character having 1 set way to build them? why even have items at that point vs set kits and upgrades as you level up
>>541244502you're a retard, but still join this code since others are joining it.
>>541244645Lash is perfect, just buff other heroes instead.
>>541244585can you?that used to bug out a lot and completely fuck up the lobby
>Victor: Pain Battery fixed the bolts hitting world geometry more often than intendedApologize!
>>541244508>10 damage>the amount of damage from one bullet>scaling untouchedHE CAN'T PROC MYSTIC BURST FROM GROUND LEVEL AT 3 MINUTESHE'S FUCKING WORTHLESSTHE LASH CAN NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS
>>541244624you're gonna keep posting excuses every time your crutch gets taken away. sad!
>>541244508>now he does no damageYou forget the part where he has one of the most impactful ults and is a slippery dickhead all the way? Him also getting insane burst is just too much
>>541244732Nigga it's true, not only did they nerf his ground strike by a huge amount, spirit armor was buffed.
>>541244032Oh without a doubt, IceFrog in on the case after all. That's an interesting trend in it, since the game became more extensive and more complicated with time, I'm pretty sure Deadlock develop in the same fashion.But just like with Vodka2 some time might pass before it happens. Aghs is definitely coming once we have a full-ish roster.
>>541244824consequences of over the shoulder pov
>>541244768This entire game is plagued with leaguebabbies, deadlock is DOA if these retards aren't disenfranchised and spat at
>>541244824It still gets cucked by people casually pressing ctrl or shift.
we split the inhouse into 2 lobbies you stupid monkeys
>>541244802Yes, quit that lobby and rejoin the old one. Stupid to split the lobby. Half of us are in hereZZTR6ZZTR6ZZTR6ZZTR6
>>541244824https://youtu.be/CYYbejNI_Cw?list=RDCYYbejNI_Cw&t=35
>>541244965No it's because there was a steam update and you can't start a new lobby if someone isn't on the new update
>>541244965this one's 9/1206G9X06G9X06G9X
>>541245017>>541245041>>541245074>>541245082NIGGERS
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
>>541245082you lost
>>541245041>>541245082you stupid cunt
>>541245149It was the first lobby posted you retarded nigga.
>>541244853>crutchwalljump spamming does literally nothing, it's just flailing and this change will mean players deplete their staminga for no reward, and if you actually can use advanced movement this is crippling skillful play for no reason. But I'm sure the game will be really fun when you can't do anything other than decide which jungle camp to go to and aim your truck-size hitbox abilities and gun.
NIGGER STOP KICKING PEOPLE YOU FUCKS BROKE THE LOBBY AND YOU CAN'T PICK HEROS NOW
>idiot main character haze running around calling strategies and getting killed when everyone ignores his nigger assmattew if you are here, you are a cocksucking failure
>>541244824the only ones that couldn't see the issue were subhumans >huur duuur pain battery hitting the world 90% of the time is not an issue >huur duuur mina's ult shredding objectives is not an issue
>>541245234i'm enjoying your cope keep going
>>541245234The problem is when you combine that mobility with already broken bullshit like Lash that and Ivy.In classic icefraud fashion instead of nerfing those he nerfs everything
>shuffling all players shuffles spectators too>putting people who were ready in the lobby first into spectatorOops
>no sinclair buffsthis trick sucks :[
>>541244625Cry about it
>global movement nerfs in line with leak that they're crunching on a non moba casual gamemode for TF2 players>same leaker had inside information on the 6 heroes, hideout and it's layout a week before the updatereal?
>>541245529was this the same guy that had the gnome hero "leak"? we need a goofy hero like that
>>541245342It's literally not a problem, just get good at movement and you can do it too.
>>541238024Golden infernus soon
why did they nerf the lash bros, is coldtoad just jealous?
>mina objective shredding nerfed>give vyper objective shredding on her poisoncool, be ready to see vyper doing the exact same thing mina was doing with T3 rush on her venom
>>541245723im more surprised they didn't nerf flog instead.
>* Victor: Shocking Reanimation T3 changed from "+200 damage and +3m radius" to "+10 spirit damage per bullet and 20% fire rate while the ability is on cooldown"Damn. Not gonna lie that's nice
Victor is a fucking monster now. His ult spirit bullet increase almost doubles his damage in the early game and basically falls off yo around 50% damage increase in the game game but it is still pretty good.
>friend got butthurt because I said that it's counterproductive to insult pub players while trying to be a shot caller and now he only wants to play solo queuewell it was fun while it lasted got 500 hours off him
>>541245898Yoshi giving the most obvious signal he is a gun carry because people just didnt get it
>paige buffsbut why?
>>541244793This but unironically>>541244470>>541244768How about nerfing the regen if its such a big deal but give more fun stuff to play with? And make his useless ult more than 1 in 100 years occurence while we are at it? Shoulder bashing people and beating the crap out of them is FUN, being 5% stronger in lane because of 2% regen increase is NOT FUN. How hard can this be?I'll see how the gun changes play out but why are the nerfs so one-dimensional and heavy handed, this is a brand new ip, just go nuts ffs.
>>541245342Why would they only nerf stalling on lash and ivy when it would still be a problem on any high mobility heroes going forward?
>>541245975>in the early gameyou have to max out his ult, which means skipping out on the other ability upgrades, including the free debuff remover
The black woman οf Valve unοriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>541245843flog was nerfed by the qsr nerf
>>541246008>he's a gun carry bro thats why he has a ton of spirit scaling and is built to be in melee range with his 3 and all of his survivability is based on getting loads of spirit bro!you're a fucking retard.
>>541245656Oh to hell with goofy and cute heroes, how about something which enhances the setting instead. Give us the Priest dammit.>>541246010She got nerfed pal
>>541246159fuck that is true, disregard my retardation
>>541246197Gun carry have high spirit scaling yes, to make up for lower spirit investments. Its why doorman had insane gun scaling, because he is not meant to invest into gun
>>541246008>he is a gun carry because people just didnt get itDogshit lol-tier balancing ethos, let people build for what they want instad for a corporate mandated buzzword role
>>541245656elaborate on the gnomepersonally I'm looking forward to the druid
>>541246008no sentient victor is leveling their ult, you guys have the most retarded takes jesus christ
>>541246197>when a hero gets their spirit nerfed, they get a gun buff to compensate>when a hero gets gun nerfs, spirit buffs to compensateit's almost like... you're supposed to do both?
>>541245529tf2 players like movement though, that's why nobody plays heavy and they gave pyro (most popular casual class) a bunch of bootleg rocket jumpsonly mobapigs hate movement because they're used to traversing the map being "I right click the spot and then look at what the rest of my team is doing"
>>541246420why is lolbabbery brought up ITT so often? This isn't league. Leaguetrannies do not need to be here or voice their nonce opinions on the game's design. It's like commenting on the engineering quality of a bridge with your masters in sociology as if it fucking matters. You dont know what good or bad MOBA design is. You wouldn't be able to tell if it WAS good.
>>541245824the difference is you can actually stop vyper from doing it and she has to use her ult to get away and only from one target instead of turning invincible and flying 3 miles away on an 18 second cooldown.
>>541241060Gladly.But that's not where i'm going to stop
>>541246570the movement nerf was specifically for air stalling which would have been 5x more annoying in a gamemode without knockdownstop pretending that they're ruining the game with every single change to movement, it's embarrassing
>>541245692What's Super Saiyan Infernus's power level?
>>541246159victor is probably the only character in the game where all of his T3 upgrades are tempting.almost every other character has at least one T3 upgrade that's just "why would i want this?" tier.
>people crying about .5 stamina for a second walljump and corner boost nerfsnone of you regularly used corner boosts and a vast majority of the time you are not going to be walljumping more than twice in a row
>>541246065infernal regen is such an obvious "help we just made this game and don't know how to make heroes" ability. It's literally just like 11% damage resist except you have to survive for 20 seconds to get the full extra value. One of the skillpoints for it is LITERALLY just +150 base health. at the very least it should charge his book or something when he takes damage instead and then the next melee hit heals him based on the damage he absorbed
>>541246954most heroes have at least some level of choice involvedI think that all the max upgrades being good is an ideal to strive for
>>541246863deadlock is literally the only video game released in a long time with good movement that is set in a large elaborate map and also isn't a fucking battle royale but is a proper objective based game with lots of room for 1v1'severy change to make the movement worse genuinely makes the only part of the game thats unique worse. if I want a moba I can just play dota. if I want a third person hero shooter I can play marvel rivals. only in this game can I soar around a big ass city getting into fights so until that gunz the duel remaster comes out and I get letdown by it still having dogshit netcode I'm a part of the movement movement in deadlock.
>* Reduced shooting lock-out period when jumping from 0.15s to 0.0s>* Shooting while jumping now applies a -10% inaccuracy period for 0.15s after jumpingimplications of this? i did notice high ranked players always jump-dashed instead of just dashing so they could shoot while chasing people and getting the infinite ammo slide.does 10% inaccuracy even do anything? doorman bell has like 100% and i have never noticed it but i only play shotgun characters.
>>541247125The .5 stamina basically just exists to punish early game schmovement
>>541247352>every change to make the movement worse genuinely makes the only part of the game thats unique worseok so why not just uninstall and save us the bitching?
>>541246529Yea im not the one farming for30 minutes to die to a silence
>>541247407give me one example of double walljumping for "schmovement" early game
>>541247125if nobody used it, why bother to nerf it? because of the theoretical high level player boogieman?
>>541247125>more than twice in a rowso if I want to gain an extra millimeter of value by jumping a second time in a row I'm going to pay out the ass with an entire half stamina? And if I want to maintain air movement for 2 more seconds I'm going to drain 3 entire bars for no value? it's just a retarded fucking nerf for one of the most fun mechanics in the game, just remove walljump if you want to be like that, remove walljump and momentum and sliding and dash jumping and just have the game be walking around and putting abilities on cooldown.
>>541247362It does nothing and you should spam jump 24_7 to avoid headshots
>>541247413>why not uninstallI unironically did for over a year after they nerfed the shit out of movement last time but then the recent update + seeing they unerfed movement made me play it again
>>541237126incorrectit's now 3 -> 3 -> 4 instead of 3 -> 4 -> 4
>>541247352retarda few months ago you couldn't even walljump twice without buying stamina mastery, and if you were playing back then you probably called the walljump rework a nerf too because you're dumb as fuck
I do not know what they did to Vyper but she went from being a pushover even with soul advantage to an actual threat. That's good! I hope her mains have some fun with her!
>>541239649should be pocket in the webm desu
Movement players are insufferable. They fucking added multiple walljumps recently this is just a fix to that overbuff.
>>541247798unfortunately only talon is short enough to get kicked in the balls, everyone else gets hit in the shin or thigh at best
NOOOOOOOOO ICEFROG LET ME JUST IGNORE ALL POSITIONING AND ROTATION LIMITS AND LET ME MOVE AROUND UNKILLABLE ICEFROOOOOOOOOOOG
go try my build :D
Drifter is now unplayable. You cant instakill on teleport. You cant react to spells and dodge with teleport. Mark can actually run out even if you press teleport. Yikes!
>>541247989>positioning and rotation limitswow the elements of a fun video game love being tethered to the floor like some shitty wc3 mod
>>541240883Calico, like Mo&Krill is ugly so no one plays her if she isn't overpowered, and even then people are more likely to pick some other characters who look lot cooler.
>>541248141calico isnt ugly
God damn Victor feels giga strong now.
>>541248121>0.35s precastjust press 0.35s earlier duh
>>541248141fuck you the tunnel rats are cool
>>541247352The movement in Deadlock (in my opinion) is not there for the flashy plays, it can be used for that, but it's there to counter highground advantage. If the movement was slower, gunplay and mobility abilities would reign supreme. It helps keep snipers in check, and it's so effective, that the snipers in this game are considered the weakest characters.
>>541248181catfucker
>>541248212this person has a fetish for... something...im not exactly sure what but i can tell
>if you hit all calico bombs with maxed 1 it deals like 255 damage with 2.5 spirit scalingisn't that really really good
>>541248465erm....no?
>>541240883It's because she sucks. She's crazy good at ganking, but she's a shittier drifter. Drifter has more utility in team fights and is nastier ganking character.
>Neutral Shop no longer gets disabled if an enemy is nearbythank u jesus
>>541247902i was there when they added the first walljump and thought it was pretty dumb.they probably uncapped it because it was sort of underwhelming to begin with and now they have to rein it in because people discovered it was useful. movement players should just be glad you have the option to even do it. i still can't wrap my head around using it because all of my habits were developed when it didn't exist.
I'm a counter item type of player. With the new Calico, Vyper and other buffs, what are items I can run when I have those in the enemy team?
>>541248584drifter has almost no disengage (and what little disengage just got nerfed), calico has two movement abilities and stronger counter-gank in ult. drifter also relies very hard on stacks to be relevant
>>541248573erm...excuse me?
>>541248706>drifter has almost no disengageFits him good, why would you disengage when there is people that need a good killing. You can just leave after everyone is dead.
>>541241991I need to live out the New York Rat power fantasy and he need's to have a Thick Boston accent too like the shop keeper and he's got to wear timberland's and a puffer sweater.
>>541248676slowing hex disables all of calico's abilities except bombknockdown sends vyper to gay baby jail
>>541248910yea I'm not complaining about it, I think drifter is well-balanced. but calico does have her own strengths over drifter.
I don't understand how the spirit per bullet works. I see no spirit damage when firing. I don't see spirit go up. I don't see any increase in my 1 when I have this maxed. What is it even doing?
>>541248934The rats were in fact not winning this time. I dare say the rats are actually losing in this timeline.
>>541240883>only viable build was a roam rat torment pulse build that was always inconsistent>could easily be shutdown w/ counterspell because all of her kill potential is wrapped in a 4-step combo that all need to hit to work>"she was in a good spot before"
>>541249012did you turn off instant cds
>>541247664yeah thats why I said should, patch notes werent really clear about it
>>541249012have you tried dying after unlocking it?
>>541249012i thought it made your bullets deal 10 spirit damage
>>541249012>>541249114>>541249147Nevermind, I misunderstood "on cooldown". I thought it meant it's still up.
Still the best. Still the handsomest.
>>541241109an abrams that can mindgame the lane melee trades and shmove properly will still run your lobbygit gud
>>541249257you have to really be fucked in the head to enjoy playing mo n krill
>>541248948Noted! I have those on my regular loadouts for Mina and Sevens, thank you!
>>541249331there are exactly two types of mo players and they honestly both disgust me>want to be ranked highly without actually being good>want their gameplay to be focused on someone else not having fun
>>541249331erm...is it even worse if i play gun mo or is it better?
>"Hey guys first time on this hero outside of bots.">Lose>"You are such utter trash kys fucklord"I don't know this annoys the shit out me. Yes. I am bad with this character Ive barely played. Its why I warned you ahead of time. You offered no advice so I don't know why you're cryin.Same for when enemy team tries to shit talk like it means anything against a first timer./blog
Loving these victor changes to be frankAll they needed to do was make his 3 a bit weaker in the self damage department and boom, no longer useless in lane.Might be a bit too much tho. Or rather, too little. I can see them nerfing it to 90 soon.
>>541249331Its like griefing, don't you enjoy being raidboss and ruining other people's fun?
why don't people push the final guardian?fuck this game
>>541249480>when the mo overfocuses on you and throws the game because their peanut brain has decided to ult a single person no matter the game stateyea mo players are kinda dumb
>>541249193Seems good. 10 spirit damage and it does scale but very poorly, but it does trigger EE and all other effects like every other heroes cheap spirit damage passives.
>>541249547>to be frankoh, you
>>541249568For this whole week, I've been getting teams that after the guardian, they never take objectives and spend the rest of the game fighting and not even managing to take kills.
>>541249791thank you, thank you. ill be here all week
god i can't figure out mcginnis
>>541249193I made that mistake too. Seems useless to me since you want to be playing with your ult up most of the time anyways.
>>541248934someone posted a fan render called rat king and it looked amazing.
nice inhouse locktards it was fun being carried
>>541250210no furshit plz
ZZTR6ZZTR6ZZTR6Need three more for inhouse
>>541250261it was an actual big ratman, just like moe
how do you get hella kills per game? even my best hero i only average 7.5 kills
>>541250261they already have ivy and vyper, its a matter of time at this point
>>541249974build tesla bulletsshoot buildings
>>541250359make krill a rat man
>>541250170It's not if you play like me. I tend to always use the ultimate to push an objective or win a fight, then it's back to more passive mode. This will benefit that passive mode more since I run a gun build.
>>541250408kinda hard with nigfernus
>>541250468max heal, put it down, shoot the blackie
4th match in a row with a abandon (billy went 0-6 to paige and ragequit in lane) then got called a retard for playing to the end for the extra 2 minutes it took to push my base. I love modern gaming nobody just fucking wants to have fun these days.
>>541250437>then it's back to more passive modewell yeah me too. But it's not something you can build around
victor has not won a single inhousevictor tards?
>>541250704The pain will be worth it
>I hurt myself today, to see if I still feel...
>>541250704I FORGOT HOW MUCH THIS STINKS
>>541250553Don't worry, they fixed matchmaking. :)
This is how I build Vyper nowMaybe I add toxic boolets, overflow or spellslinger
ZZTR6ZZTR6NEED 1 FOR IH
>>541250681Might. I mean still gotta try. It doubles a non-gun Victors gun output with some extra spirit so it's definitely a nice bonus. Many don't seem to level ultimate at all though right now.
>>541250868opening rounds?
>>541250868>spellslingerit is actually really good on her now, her weapon reloads real quick
>lash calls drifter a murder hobo>drifter: they call me the drifter>lash: whatever, mobokek, lashbros you're alright. don't go to the camps between blue + green lane tomorrow
A deadlock custom game in the form of a 3d survivor-like would be kino
>people already whining about Victor
>>541250868Shadowweave
>>541250397I'm not a furry, but I'm waiting for Vyper to get a model that matches her voice, if you know what I mean, wink wink nudge nudge. Though there is an undeniable charm to the sexiest voice in the game having the most unfitting NPC model possible.
>>541251480victor was already a pub stomper and now he is even stronger.
>>541251480yeah victor buffs are gonna cause some seeker seething for sure
>>541251347that was what i was thinking too when i played megabonk lmao
>>541250389please helpi need hella kills so that my group will think I'm good enough and I'll be someone they really look up to and look forward to playing with
I'm fucking Victoring all over myself right now.His buffs might not seem big but they're substantial. He's still weak as shit early but comes online way faster. Around 15-20m I'm just sitting in a lane and can 1v1 anyone and by 25-30 minutes he just fucking runs through enemy teams
>>541251480I hate balance talkers. Just play the fucking game or don't.
I'm going to celebrate the day Icefrog dies. That thing ruins every game he touches and is responsible for every bad mechanic in Deadlock.
>>541249331t. plays black characters
>another round of viscous nerfsman
RELEASEPRIESTRIGHTNOW
i just died to a magic carpet krill diving into my base
>>541248206>just have 0.35s of precognition that your enemy will cast their spell to dodge it in advance
>>541251013Spirit power and the conditional weapon damage it makes it easier for her to execute with venom.
>>541252213express shot was buffed
>tfw you live in a video game and punching someone hurts them more than shooting them with a gun
What do you do with Calico after laning? I'm not really sure how to build her. I tend to do really well in lane and then with some spirit+melee items and then fall off a cliff for the rest of the game.
I want a spirit breaker kind of character
>>541253013She gets an absurd power spike when she gets ult, and can kill almost anyone by then. She's also really strong up until like 10k souls, and then she falls off like you said. Basically you need to abuse your powerspike to snowball and buy space to win the early-midgame for your team, make them be afraid to enter their jungle, steal their boxes and creeps. You will eventually fall off and become an active item/squishy killbot though
>>541252854yeah would you rather goku punched you or get shot by minas gun?
>>541252656Go mystic shot instead
>start a game>our random team has much less cc than the other team/less fast m1 hero>loseGreat. Why is draft not the defaut playing mode
>>541253013Play for picks. >>541253418>She's also really strong up until like 10k soulsI highly disagree, I think she's fairly weak in lane against actually strong laners.Her power spikes come with torment pulse, maxxed ult and spirit snatch.
Give me gun Doorman advice. I was thinking maybe Express Shot instead of Weakining Headshot for post cart stuns and just buying Crippling Later. I like to split push hard cause I'm in shitlo and just escape via portals.
>be kelvin>long ass game, nearly an hour, everyone is full or nearly full build>had 50% spirit res, refresher, and curse>my job was to dome x2 and curse the hyper fed yamato that's been a monster since about 30m and try and survive while my team wipes theirs>it works, we take patronlmao
>>541247687I dropped this game when they removed HMC
>>541254175why are you still here retard lmao
>>541249547RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I LOVE VIKTOOOR
How do I counter build victor the best? Qualifier: without going gun.
>>541248212What a badass art
how well will playing an all healing kelvin work in low elo
>>541251480Why not just buy antiheal?
>>541254436I play support, a lot, any heal focus build has had no positive effect in low elo because their struggle is to push. My go to is to buy AOE support items or active items that counter the enemy team's hyper carry.
>>541252551>raises skill ceiling >NOOOOOOOO IT'S UNPLAYABLE NOW
>>541249547>>541254278what builds r u guys running?
why did they nerf gay talon, he sucks ass lmao
>>541254359literally just buy curse/silence and cc chain himwith curse he can't use battery so he also cant cleanse it like other cc, and he cant use it if he's already stunned toobonus if you land it while his aura is active because it will keep damaging him and he cant turn it offthis way you can at least take his ult, and then find him while its still down and repeator alternatively, don't let him get strong enough to the point where you'd need to counterbuild hima couple kills in jungle or lane when he's the weakest will put him so far behind he'll never recover (unless you let him freefarm side lanes, but you would never do that right)?
Balance patch this, balance patch that. When will Valve introduce a change which will make me good at this game
>>541254239cuz they added a vampire character and removed lasthitting being mandatory
so whats the new victor build given the changes?
>>541254436>all healingDon't, but heavy healing is what I'm doing and it’s going fine. 60k heals is pretty regular. Your healing scales off spirit, and then throw in rescue beam or healing nova and you're solid. Just remember to throw your 1 at low health allies/your own feet to top up in lulls. But playing support is making sure you have good actives bought. Grab curse and/or knockdown, rescue beam and/or healing nova, maybe divine barrier or heroic aura (the latter gets crazy useful when the entire match is fun build heavy in both sides). But you want a supportive kelvin to have a good mix of both green and spirit, not like mostly green.
>>541254971>fun buildgun*
>>541254662It's just me.I picked a random build from the public ones, works as a core, and then I tailor it depending on the game.Fleetfoot is actually unfair.It let me escape so many situations, works well with your gun, and it also doubles down as a chasing tool once youre ahead and don't need to run. Also works great for pushing, roaming, jungling. It's honestly just perfect.
last game's stats?
Inhouse over or are we just updating our games?
I'm fine with continuing D38MXD38MXD38MX
>>541254662>>541255149This was from the 70k souls gameI sold fleetfoot for refresher just for the meme, and because my pockets were heavy.If your aim sucks, you can switch berserker for spirit burn, but although it's shit early, victors gun does some substantial damage lategame with berserker, since its constantly on max stacks.
merk you need to get your head checked
>>541255193
>>541255149seems simple n good, will use
>>541255429fuck my bad
>>541255519>1/16
>>541254971>>541254596So go actives to counter enemy, 1-2 good heal items, and do you guys play him? Stay in the back and throw grenades and ice beams? Do you get in there and ice dome people?
>>541254631They didnt raise shit they just removed that part of the ability
>>541255193>>541255483>>541255629Gee I wonder who is behind these posts. Certainly not the most autistic guy in the inhouse
D38MXD38MXD38MXD38MXIH BACK UP GET IN HERE
why are the goat and lizard having nasty sex in an alley?
Hard stuck alchemist NA east shitter can I join the inhouse?
>only person on the team doing well>barely holding the dogshit team together as it is>Bebop dies to Infernus predictable for the 10th time>I chase Infernus down, miss my ult but kill him>Bebop decides the best course of action is to now flame me for missing my ultSometimes you just can't carry shitters no matter how hard you try
>>541255740I was asking asking because I was the Ivy and wanted to see my damage. I think I needed more anti-heal to counter kelvin's domain expansion.
>>541255519this nigga victors USELESSnigga cant do SHIT>>541255863that's like 2 ranks higher than most of these players
Am I crazy for finding Victor HARDER after the update? Do I need to reconfigure my build or something?
>>541255883I didn't even build for heals I was beam-maxxing that game.
>>541255970well you also had rescue beam. Having spiritburn+healbane would've been nice for the entire enemy team because near the end everyone just sat in my kudzu.
>>541250868just spanked a vic and a haze so hard they left with this build ty
>>541255639Of course you want to dome people. In fact cooldown and duration on the dome are some of your best early-mid purchases. Things to keep in mind>your 2 makes you great at chasing, and map presence in general>your 1&3 slow>2 into 3 basically makes it impossible to run from you>your dome traps and healsYou're there to basically confirm kills and isolate. Make sure enemies that are caught out can't run. Or to throw some enemies into time out. Hell, once or twice I've even used the dome on a low health ally to heal them up and stop them getting sniped by a dive. Just play and you'll get a feel for him. People also fucking hate slows and the dome, so they treat your 1&3 as much more scary than they are damage wise until late game.
>>541255639I don't play Kelvin, but I do play McGinnis. Due to high survivability but low mobility I act like "a wall" of sorts. If they want to get past me they need to invest a lot of resources in a fight, even if I don't win it. I usually push enemy objectives until I have enough sustain to drag out fights, my abilities apply enough debuffs and my gun does enough group damage. Once atleast 2 walkers are down, I commit to team fights I can guarantee I can win or sustain my allies to prevent them from feeding. Supports are very cerebral and context dependant. But once you get rolling you can even take out the midboss on your own if your enemy team is distracted.
D38MXD38MXD38MX7/12
>>541255970Kelvin heals scale off spirit so even going 3 focus leaves you with pretty good heal.>>541256413Kelvin is pretty mobile honestly. His 2 has some of the best cross map mobility in the game, and he can out run or chase a lot of people just because half his kit applies slow.
>>541255970>beam-maxxingPost build?
Just buy all the stamina items on McGinnis and win, since you can keep shooting without interruption when you jump now.Worked on you retards earlier lol
>>541256225hell yeaaaI wish I could spank a haze in real life
how do i use holliday's 3?
>>541256839
>>541257037You aim at their heads and press m1
>>541257037shoot them in the head
>Mo & Krill: Bullet damage growth per boon increased from 0.063 to 0.07whoah...how much DPS is this?
Ivy 2 but it’s passive.
When are we getting another OSI spook
>>541257335I want a colonial british guy sent by Queen Victoria there to loot magical shit, including the patrons.
>>541257064ty
>>541257460So paradox but British
>>541257165for every seven boons, he gains 1 more DPS than he would have beforescary
>>541257332Luigi house but it mansion
>>541256667dead thread truly...
I am new here. is it true that before the shop update you could only have 4 of each colored item?
>>541257037shoot their head
>>541257335we need an OSI rog
D38MXD38MXD38MXNEED 5 FOR INHOUSE
>>541257574i think it's pellet damage and he shoots like 5 or 6 pellets? so it's a little bit impactful but practically nothing.
>>541257815yes, but flex slots used to be special and let you put any item in themyou had 16 item slots total
>"pro" consensus is that Mina is actually even more OP with this updateWhat the FUCK is Yoshi doing?
>>541257930damn, which system is better, the current one or the old one?
>>541243768It just straight-up looked like rape porn. That's why there's a bunch of people who don't have a problem reading Berserk but think Goblin Slayer is cringey.
>>541258007is the pro consensus just one streamer
>>541257864it is my belief that Metro is the LTG of Deadlock
>>541257918the 1 dps per 7 levels calculation assumes you're hitting all of his pellets
how the fuck do i select a hero in the custom match?
>>541258007>What the FUCK is Yoshi doingnot playing the game aparently, otherwise he would know how to nerf her kit (rework dashes and remove the silence)
Has Lash ever received anything other than nerfs? He even got nerfed by association when they nerfed Rapid Recharge.
>>541258007Let me guess, Metro lost in lane and saht his pants
>>541258135metro doesnt have the charisma but I guess hes as close as we have right now
>>541257815Flex slots allowed 4 of any type of item. Plus items gave way more stats, a lot of bullet items just gave spirit power too.
D38MXD38MXD38MXNEED 1 FOR INHOUSE
>>541258245charisma? what the fuck? are you implying LTG has that???
Yet another patch where mo and krill/infernus remain untouched and op
>>541258289mods crush this dusty ass rogs gem
>>541258208>Lash is giga fucking broken and is tearing the game a new asshole>Gets rightfully nerfed>Lash abusers cry and moan>1 month later Lash is giga fucking broken abusing some new item, build, geometry, etc and is tearing the game a new asshole>repeat endlesslyHe got several buffs when the game leaked over a year and half ago but the hero is just disgusting and the kit is so retarded that he can squeeze the smallest possible thing and break it.
>>541258424Mo lost 0.1s off his ult lil bro he's super balanced now
who's ready for some support drifter
>>541258260Still need 1 player.
>>541249547>>541251480I wish they would buff him more but remove his purge in returnit's so cancerous to have any attempt at countering him be deleted
>started playing recently>youtube recommendations infected>listening to a compilation of hero conversations/interactionsIs there any time when heroes will talk to each other aside from spawn? Vyper is a damn treat and I feel like even if a pair of matched heroes spawn together, the patron gets priority
>>541258010The old system had investment bonuses tied to individual items, so the ideal strategy was to load up on as many cheap items as possible early. Theoretically it was better at forcing people to hybridize, but in practice gun heroes would fill all 4 of their flex slots with gun items and spirit heroes would fill them with spirit items.
>>541258724For a very long time there was no conversations period. They only existed in the game files, and 2 characters still don't even have conversations at all being Warden and Sinclair.
Inhouse finally starting btw
>vindicta will never be allowed to be good because they just wont bite the bullet and remove the bonus souls on snipewhy are they so married to this part of her kit, it doesnt even fit her character at all
>plays Doorman>gets put into midlane with Holiday>enemy heroes are Wraith and Vindicta>nobody wants to switchHow do you do not to concede guardian in 5 minutes? We cant outpush them
>>541258204if you remove the silence from her ult, it becomes completely uselessit has dogshit scaling if its used on more than 1 target because of how bats target at random, and if love bites doesn't proc off it, its damage is low even at full buildremoving silence will allow heroes to just retaliate against her in multiple ways to stun her out of it or abuse ability i-frames instead of doing the intended thing, which is dashing away and finding coverit's supposed to be a single target fuck-you button OR a teamwide silence you have to aim, but never both at the same time. the damage against a single target was always reasonable for an ult, just not against objectives, which is largely fixed now. the way spirit burn could infinite proc off it against midboss/obj and especially patron was never intended, and i'm genuinely surprised they allowed it as a cheese to fester as long as it did. it wasn't overpowered, but it was bullshit.
>>541259041doorman holliday wins that matchup easily btw play veils to shove them in and harass with your abilities
I miss gun lash. Felt like call of duty. 3 round bursts for like 400 damage
>>541259252no one is stopping you from playing a terrible gimmick build that was never good, anon
>>541259348Im 40 and dont have the patience to deal with my 20 year old ADHD teammates flaming me for not copy pasting some yourubers meta build
>enemy drifter gets fed on one of our lane>buys curse So now if you dont play a gun hero you cant even try to get back into the game because the jungle is a no go zone
some games you just cant winelo hell is real and the game isnt even out yetbtw, they were both carries, haze and yamatoyet useless beyond measure
>>541259495just play with comms off or igl via telling them that you're playing gun lash and they can lick your unc nuts if they object
>>541248121i hope they roll that back so bad, what was the problem if hitting the fucking mark required a skillshot + gave you enough time to try and fuck off to tower
>>541259523>disarming hex>always rotate with a teammate>watch for camps disappearing in your jungle where your teammates aren't at and call out that it's probably drifter and set up for a gankyou don't even need curse unless he's gotten that out of hand, he has no built in escapes and most builds have bullet lifesteal for sustaintreat him like a fed haze
>>541258687nothis would completely kill the characterliterally anyone with any cc, even just a single item, could completely fuck him over if his cc cleanse wasnt a thingthe whole way to play victor is to know when to heal and when to disable your 3crowd controlling him too easily would make it impossible for him to heal at the right time, he'd continue taking damage from his 3champs that have cc he cant counter (like abrams, mina, dynamo etc) already fuck him hardplus, it introduces a way of skill expression into the gameholding your 2 for one of the enemies abilities but they're also holding so on and so forthusing it at the wrong time means you eat a shit tonne of cc and subsequently get melted by your own auraif youre struggling that hard, you can alway just get curse
>>541248121good, fuck drifter niggers
>just kite victor lol>jumpstart removes all slows and makes him the fastest character in the gamenice
>>541236637are there any good streamers to watch in this game
>>541260191no one is telling you to kite victorhe's a hero you have to fightyou just need to know how
>>541260213yeah
>>541260191>buys inhibitor
GT snare needs a way to play around it that isnt just unstoppable or debuff removerit's so op for midboss
Apparently there are undocumented changes to how certain gun items interact so some gun characters like Paradox or gun Bebop are giga broken now.
>Victor buffed>right back to being braindead cancer that autowins half the timelove it, thank you icefrog
>>541260964elaborate
>character is allowed to exist instead of being a throw picknooooooooo victor is literally hitler now
>icefraud straight up deleted the inhouse
ggs everyone.guess the lobby died
>>541261457i thought he was pretty good before but the fact that jumpstart still has purge is crazy to me.
anyone else get network issues? I got booted from IH
With her changes is she good now?
icefrog made the calldump eet yoshi
>>541261548everyone didthankfully it happened right after a match ended for me.
>Update disabledthe fuck happened
>>541261548same and same
>>541261565she was mega broken before this patch.
>>541261161Turns out it WAS documented but the formatting of the post made it easy to glance over.>Fixed ordering issues with various items with Bullet based Procs. Debuffs (ie. negative Bullet Resist) from all procs are now applied before any bonus damage from the procs. Items include Weakening Headshot, Crippling Headshot, Headshot Booster, Headhunter, Hollow Point and Mystic Shot.Still not hearing many people talk about it.
>>5412616294channers have been banned from the gamesaid nigger one too many times
>>541261565she's now stronger in lane and now has a reason to get her other T3 upgrades besides ult first thingso yes
>>541261565She's just not broken anymore and can't solo melt any objective.She's as "good" as previous.
>>541261528maxing out his 2 means you cant max out his other moves that are also really fucking good but only when maxxed sooner. its the same reason why mina having to heavily delay turning love bites into a nuke to actually get rake healing is a huge laning nerf
Rejoin IHD38MXD38MXD38MX
>try out Paige>enemy in our lane diving my Billy>just got ult>hit them both and kill them>wasnt thinking, angled it where it hits both lanes perfectly>wiped out yellow lane tooHOLYI hate playing support heroes but that was fucking GREAT
>>541260153That's fair, but it's still annoying as fuck if you play debuff-damage heroes like shiv.In pisslow you are basically at the mercy of your dumbass teammates to coordinate and not feed him lifesteal, which right now is pretty grim.I do get curse sometimes, it's a nice counter, but it's really expensive and needs your teammates to actually follow up.Maybe he should have something like a CC purge instead of general purge? Like unstoppable.
>>541261786if it refills quickly I'll join
>>541258962she wants to brool not farm
>>541261789gun paige is mega broken. No better way to support your teammates then killing everyone.
>>541261528>>541261765I played a lot of victor and honestly it's always a tough choice between maxing one or two first. three's obviously the carry ability but I usually save it for later due to his design.
>>541261789cross-map ults are always kino except onefuck you sgt hammer you nigger
>still can't wall-jump and shoot on the same frameWhy does Yoshi hate Shiv?
>>5412617867/12
>>541261789i thought it was kind of a lame ult before but the meme patch note of the ult being twice as effective if you hit someone on the other side of the map with it was a great change
>>541259120>the damage against a single target was always reasonable fucking lmao
>>541261927Yoshi needs to spend a few years in GunZ pservers desu
>>541261704Dunno how this makes Paradox specifically that good. I mean sure the grenade amp works but those are usually very fringe cases and a small amount of amp
>No haze changesGreat, I can continue bullying noobs in initiate
>>541261927does throwing knife still randomly waste express shot too?
>>541261704so how does that affect gun paradox and bebop in particular?that seems like it would be good for everyone equally.
Did they seriously delete walljumps?
>>541261565The only thing nerfed was her ult objective damage.Her Rake got buffed.Her movement got massively buffed cause her new float ability can apparently be chained with other movement tech to get Majestic Leap levels of momentumPeople are also using her float to get downright unfair peaks in lane phase.
>>541262127no retard
>>541261991it was like if bebop beam wasn't dogshit garbageaka what bebop beam would be if he wasn't the hook character
>>5412617869/12
>>541262139she can shoot while floating?why is this allowed?
>>54126178611/12Just 1 player needed.
What the fuck is up with low volume mumbling faggots in this game? Have you never used a microphone in your life? Been on a call? No one can fucking hear you.
>>541262570I comeAlso how do you set up notifications in 4chanx(t)?
>>541262127no, the first wall jump costs 0 stamina the next ones cost half, or a quarter, of the stamina bari don't even get the point of it, movement enjoyers will not like it but find ways to move around and people that can't into movement gain nothing from this nerf
>>541261134>retard who cant play against the worst character in the game says what?
ok, what's the point of mina now?
>>541262564They hotfixed it back out but yesYou only get to use it once per airtime though, and it automatically stops after a few seconds
>>541262795i get to see my cute waifu move around on the screen
>>541262139yeah it's pretty nuts, as if pocket wasn't bad enough now we have both these faggot nepo babies doing it.
>>541262795asshole laner + mass silence or nuking someone that's alonealso still the slipperiest character in the game
the new floating thing for mina could have been a funny item that they could have let everyone have if they just made it a passive effect on a new item.but the devs just gave it to their waifu oc donut steel instead.
the new spammy dagger vyper feels like shit, the scaling got worse and the modifiers dont do shit for spirit vyper and you cant shoot while throwing a dagger. how did they somehow make an already mediocre character worse
>>541262931THANK YOU YOSHITHE GAME IS SAVED
>>541262139>Her Rake got buffed.Not really, early rake before T2 doesn't heal as much and the 1% damage increase on T3 is quite literally nothing since it's from missing health, not maximum health. I'd say the early lane sustain loss is a big big nerf compared to what she got.
>>541258435lash isnt even broken right now though and there is multiple items that straight counter him
>>541262997I think hybrid is the way now. The dagger changes actually made the spirit nuker build worse.
>people are already back to ivy meme builds my ugly wife can't catch a break
>>541262795perfect AGP bait
>>541259523curse makes it so you cant shoot either. hes eating anyone he finds solo in there
>>541262716bind it to right click and build spellslinger
>>541262931>Ok, so this character is fucking gay as fuck with her 2 letting her relocate vertically, and she's invulnerable during the relocation>Let's make her more slippery and impossible to be caught at allThey must have injured their head to come up with all these retarded ideas.
>>541262795she's still quite good anon
>>541263229>character does one thing and they lean into it>wooow how can she do that?
>>541263117The fact they nerfed literally everything about her kit is quite grim. They didn't bother to fine tune or anything.
>dream every night how that stupid cunt mina should hover/glide with her umbrella like inprogress(probablyfinished) raven>it's in
>>541263229>buys knockdown
>eats two ults >livesSpirit lifesteal pays for itself
>>541263275At this point, just let her 2 to immediately teleport her back to base, usable even when she's CCed
>>541263428>+270 with healing boosterbattle vest or any of the shield items would've done more.
>>541262931GAYYYYYY
>Ivy: Air Drop no longer grants allied bullet resistanceWhat the fuck is the point of this character? She's not allowed to do any damage because she's supposed to be a support, but you're not allowed to support your team in any way
Wow...*I* was the 0-5-0. I really couldn't pull it together.
woah
>>541263864pleaseI have a need for the froggiday
>>541263864holliday's sweaty gunpowder-laden pits...
>fourth patch in a rowENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>541263838REPORTED FOR TRASH JAJAJAJA
>>541263924https://gamebanana.com/mods/624372
>>541263428
>>541263986>jump lillypadsfan-fucking-tasticNow I won't care as much about feeding
>>541263864get back in the mf briefcase
>>541263661Shields don't seem to interact with aura of suffering>>541264149Honestly I was so waiting for that to happen. Whenever I see a haze who goes for heavies I try to stick to my lane partner
>>541263338It's exactly what I expected from the devs that continue to let Mo and Kelvin run rampant for over a year.They legit have no idea what they're doing.
>he casts his ult>its frogs
>>541264398>Shields don't seem to interact with aura of sufferingyeah but you took a bunch of gun damage from haze and spirit/stun from dynamo, any of them would've procced and been spent.
how do you make doorman not suck lategame
>>541264525he's fucking victor man he's gonna buy leech or infuser
>press 4 on my keyboard>produce frogs that harm my foes
i'm gonna be so mad when people realize how fucking good blood tribute is and it gets nerfed.
>>541264518they*
>>541264756same, I love deliberately baiting out Combo or Lasso and watching them wonder why the timers are already up before anyone else realizes they were even cast.
BROS, I'M SICK OF THESE FUCKING FROGS THAT ARE MY ULT, I'M GOING TO UNINSTALL IF I PRESS 4 ONE MORE TIME AND FROGS APPEAR AAAAUUUUUUGGGHHH
>>541264596the gun man
>>541264398>cheating in the inhouse N
>getting shit on by billy>he goes for the melee>have rebuttal >parry it>heal to full>he's stunned for 10s>takes 800 damage>+1000% vulnerability debuff>gets vaporized immediatelylmao
ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING PATCHES
>>541262795i'm afraid... you will have to learn how to shoot your gun and actually hit things
>>541262139mina has to pick between fat rake healing and doing 50% with love bites in lane instead of being able to just dump all her points into love bites while not being squishy
buffed victor is such a bully, I'm consistently 10k - 20k ahead of everyone else.
frogs to coming from my four button?? REALLY valvé?? WHAT A HELL??
>>541262931How do you do this it doesnt work for me
>>541265071what else would it be
>>541265109right click?
frogattacked fight enemmy with frog from my keyboard's fourth button
>>541265109he's using majestic leap, not jumping to the zip if that's what you thought was happening.
>>541264756>>541264873>heh, you didn't stun me for nearly as long as you thought, did you?>it only cost me 100s of my own health + lost regen equivalent to what I would've taken anywayI don't see the appeal outside of a winmore on an already game winning level victor
>>541241275Source? Are you just saying that because of the cat?
new update dropped
>Vindicta buffs>+0.4 damage, and with 200 spirit she gets +6 damage on flight and +60 damage on ult (only if fully charged)is this a joke?
>>541265169oh you cant press it as many times as you want is the problem
>>541262074>this shit is STILL buggedFIX YOUR SHIT YOSHI or don't I'm not a shiv player
>>541264398Nice autoparry
>>541265259>100s of my own healthoh no! anyways, this item rules.
walking down 4th street the other other night weirdest thing happened to me. some kinda fuckin new age homo bumps into me, throws his fucking coat at window disappears into his suitcase and BOOM fuckin gone. next thing you know, im crossing the street, and a swarm of fuckin frogs races past me and I'm like, hey Im walking here
>>541258435>Lash is giga fucking brokenIs it 2024?
>>541265259enjoy getting mauled by the sloth for 4 seconds.
>wish lane opponents to low hp, about to wreck their tower for free>lane friend DIVES AND IMMEDIATELY DIES>does it AGAIN immediately after coming back>lane state flips and lane mate never recoversSTOP YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>541265259>blood tribute on Victor I was literally gonna make a joke saying “I tried this item on Victor, it sucked ass” because on him it would comically bad because of the healing reduction. But you’re like an idiot for realz
>>541264149>dat rusted barrel castmy fucking sides
>>541265736that was me, i was billy lol
Vyperbros how we feeling right now?
>>541266142i rike it i rike it
so is victor usable now with all the buffs
why the fuck are you playing inhouses if you're just gonna pick an m1 and afk in lane for 20 minutes instead of fighting
>never won a fucking inhouse match that's is enough of inhouse matches for me for a long while.
>>541266318I don't blame you, I've won the majority of the ones I've played but I feel like it was pure luck most of the time. They're one-sided stomps usually and it's almost never fun.
>>541264149Wow, Wraith sure did press 4 to insta kill that guy then parry the most obvious melee ever.
>>541266314who were you in the game?
Yoshi murdered the inhouse again
>>541266403>They're one-sided stompeven the pro games are like this lmaothe game is horribly broken right now
>>541263117spirit ivy is le good can confirm
>>541266314i'm initiate i'm not smart at this game
no seriously why the fuck does ivy have a billy chain
>>541266403that last match was pretty much decided when you guys failed to force a midboss.
>>541263117Ivy is good with almost any spirit or gun build because she shits out damage with her gun and kudzu
>>541266314need to get the build online
>>541266413it's to raise awareness that you can indeed parry a melee directed towards your lanemate when they are slept
>>541266524it wasn't a chain it was the ult's bomb pulling you upit has like 20 meters range
>>541266559We didn't fail it we were doing it then Paige was solo pushing mid walker and died and then we tried to back off but 1-2 people kept trying to kill itretards single-handedly ruin the game right now which is why inhouses are not fun anymore, valve has managed to ruin the game before it even came out, a new record
>>541266524I still don't know what your talking about
>>541266314were you the yamato?
>>541266318>play Mina>win inhouse>play Mirage>lose inhouse
>>541266612I know a lot of people probably don't know that, but it's really not that big of a deal for the people that do know it
>>541266697no>>541266521there's nothing wrong with being new or bad I just find it so boring
anyone got the end-game stats?
tfw want to inhouse but also shit at the game and everyone will make fun of how bad i am
>>541266724I played every character i regularly play. i am clearly not good enough to keep up with you guys>>541266771you are the lash>>541266836I forgot to screenshot it
>>541266689>Ivy presses a combination of something and stone form>Run to avoid stone form stun>Get pulled back into stun>Die
>>541266836
>can't join match>can't reconnect even after starting game>abandon penaltyyeah alright very funny yoshi you shithead
>>541266916Someone will post the match code.. maybeI'll look for when that happened but I want to post how retarded gunman is.
>>541259120maybe, just maybe, if the silence is the only thing preventing the ult from being garbage then it's not a good ult in the first place
>>541267117I'm not inting i swear it's a real strat i just need to make it work
Just played against this person and their movement and macro was absolute dogshit, but they were able to perfectly track me in every single fight. Does this look like a cheater or are they just good?https://statlocker.gg/profile/15487936/performance
>>541267432stats look very normal at least
well I see haze is still OP cancer shitstomping pubs
>>541267117oh hey i got most assists at least.probably the best I ever did in these.
>>541267432stats don't look particularly damning the fact he has dogshit denies kinda makes me think he's not cheating, just a massive CSfag or whatever aim game that brools constantly
>>541267432did you even look at their steam? this is what a cheater's profile looks like
>>541267703no wonder you think everyone's cheating
>viper on the way back to base starts jungling for no reason as the creeps hit our second form patron>the 10% hp we lost on it ends up being the difference maker as they suicide into our base to try and rush itonly pocket was left alive and he got his final shot gun shot off before we wiped them all and would have woncan't stand these jungle brained retards that HAVE to farm even at 40 minutes
is inhouse still up
>>541267703NTA, I've played this guy in archon lobbies before. unless this anon is one of my teammates, this isn't the first time I've heard of this guy aim botting on holliday.
>>541258204>>541267242Maybe I'm the one singlehandedly making everyone hate Mina ult in inhouses or something, because I've never been on the other side of a Mina ult that I felt was bullshitIt'd put it in the class or CC ults like Dynamo, Mo, Holliday, etc. The difference is it's actually easier to get out of than any of those, it just punishes you if you use your stamina to dive rather than saving it to escape with
>>541268026the fabled sub 20% hs rate aimbot
>patchnoteswhat do i play now
>>541268048I don't remember the last time I was afraid of a Mina ult, shit's so easy to avoid.
>>541268114I didn't lane against this guy, but I've had teammates screeching he was aim botting on holliday before. he also a VAC ban on profile, so get real.
>>541268026I seriously can not tell if they are cheating or just autistic. They are all over the place then snap to me off a jump pad and nail every shot. I'm just going to report.
>>541268193YeahIf you're really having trouble with it just buy kinetic dash
>>541268247>but I've had teammates screeching he was aim botting on holliday beforethat's very damning indeed, considering his HS rate is bottom 16% of all players.>he also a VAC ban on profilethat's not a vac ban.
>>541268283probably toggle aim bot>>541268431look, do you think I'm lying? how often do you hear teammates screeching about someone aim botting in-game and then hear about them again on /dlg/?
>>541268517>look, do you think I'm lyingno, I think you and your archon screechers are just shitters
>>541267208>>541266916It's fucking vortex web holy shit why is /dlg/ SO FUCKING RETARDED
>>541268048mina's ult melt people and silences them, if you use mid team fight it is basically guaranteed kills.
>>541268596ok alter, rape you next time
>>541268627he was talking about it way before anyone bought vortex web
>>541268805what kind of world do you live in
>>541268873the world where I see people die to her ult often, exactly in the conditions I described.
>>541268596way to out yourself, cheater
>>541269376the classic cope. even when faced with the stats showing that you're losing to someone with dogshit accuracy you'd rather call him a cheater than face it that yes, you are probably bad at this game and yes, he beat you
>>541268627It literally wasn't. Nobody had vortex web at this time in the match recording and I still have no clue what they were talking about.
>>541269648>>541266916
>>54126581030% less healing out of 2 billion healing is still a lot
>going trough profiles from inhouse players>shit varies from one team having initiates and other low ranks and the other having phantoms and above.
>>541266189forget useable, can he actually do anything besides eat camps for 30 minutes
>>541269918WHO FUCKING CARES THEYRE JUST FOR LAUGHS. You fucking weirdo
>>541270094but it is funny and I am laughing
Abrams ult rework when?should be unstoppable on t2 or have it charge up more damage and stun the longer you're in the sky
>>541270243His ult does kinda suck, and it doesnt even make sense for a kit that wants to rape people in a tunnel or house
Is this bad? Don't know why my draw stat is so bad, I think my lose lane stat is better due to me trying to figure out what to do to win a game after I lose a lane.
>>541269523you will feel foolish when yoshi lays down the hammer, inshallah
oh boy oh boy the calico player is 30/0 again!!!!
>>541270410It would just take you losing the next 2 games you lose lane for the number to be smaller, so it's probably just sampling error
join the deadlock general 'corddiscord.gg/4vn9ErPrDJ
>>541270243the new CC diminishing returns means that often the one time you actually want to use abrams ult (to catch someone after another ult) is now often not even worth it because you spend several seconds doing nothing but hovering in the air to stun someone for a fraction of a second instead of just shooting them in the first placebetween this and book being no longer a tool for damage abrams is just a football player that charges people the whole game and doesn't press any buttons
>>541269918Most of the players here are stuck emissary. John is the only phantom player I know of.
>>541270373could just become another generic steroid ultmaybe a free unstoppable from the book just like how calicos ult is just eshiftso you can punch people without worrying about parry
>>541270646damn, victor is delivering ANOTHER deadlock update
>>541269648>>541266916...you guys know that Ivy ult bounces you back up right?>>541270646shut up retard this is solely for inhouse filling, the circlejerk is dying as soon as we get lobby chat
>>541270646kill yourself
>>541270646kys
>>541270712I've been stuck at Seeker since the new heroes released
>>541270857>>541270882Dont cry to me about getting owned in the inhouse sweetie
crazy how lash gets nerfed but infernus is ignoredalso it took them this long to nerf power surge lmao if they had just paid a little tiny bit of attention they would have done that 6 months ago
Everything in this patch is either a direct or indirect nerf to Lash for some reason
>8-2 so far this patch
How do we feel about the cc nerf?
>>541271035which is shit because I literally just started playing lash.
>>541270936well then your not apart of the average of players
>>541270648you are massively overblowing the anti-CC chaining.>-7% per cc, capping at 21%
i think rebuttal is too OP. I don't know how you could play Billy or Abrams with the item in this state.
>>541271009They didn't just nerf Lash, they nerfed every single one of his best items. QSR, mystic burst, cold front again, cultist sacrifice, majestic leap again. So his early damage and items are totally fucked and his late-game is inherently weaker. Yet another hero turned into an ult-bot.
>>541271341Easily because no one other than me buys it
>>541271341>Abramsyou should not be punching outside of the guaranteed shoulder charge punch. also they just buffed his gun a lot, so just shoot more>Billyget fucked I guess
>>541271141Didn't notice it in the inhouse.
>Mina goes from S tier to C tier in one patchGrim. At least she is good gooner bait.
Everyone just walks out of my Calico ult. Wtf are you supposed to do to land this?
>>541270410I think it's kinda bad, my win lane win rate is 70.1% and my draw lane win rate is 48%.My lose lane stat is worse than yours though at 35.1%, I'm bad at recovering from a lost lane.
>>541239579her kit is so good that she just becomes accidently broken some times. I wish every character were designed like her (good gun and a lot of utility)
>>541271473>C tierkek, she's easily still A tier, she just doesn't get to win lane and eat walkers for free anymore. Stop crutching on broken heroes and get good.
>new to the game>getting the feeling of playing Lash even if I keep gettng crumped>lmao Lash nerfFine, give me another noob hero then
>>541271413>>541271434bro even late a fucking 12/4 Billy gets parried once and just gets melted by an 800 soul item
>>541271141Almost impossible to notice, the big strong CC is already one single ability like MNK ult
>>541271519pop fleetfoot and heroic aura
>>541271519enduring speed + fleetfoot and hope they used up their stamina
>>541271519cold front helps, as does enduring speedit's fairly easy to run out of or just get vertical height but the T2 upgrade helps
>>541271558mina
>ult>frogs
>>541271558Lash is the opposite of a noob hero but at least you were rewarded for playing well and having to deal with the now-existing 50 different counters to your abilities. Unfortunately, you are not rewarded anymore.
>>541271940lash is braindead broken bullshit
>>541271585you should not be heavy meleeing on billyyou max blasted and play mindgames with light melees
>>541272206>>541272206>>541272206
>>541271558Lash is still one of the best heroes in the game.
Give me the timers. Boxes when? Neutral camps when? Sinners when? What else is important?
>>541272302He never has been
>lost every single game since the patch except the one where i went spirit vyper and did fuckallI keep on getting 5 minute queues into games two whole ranks below mine and then am expected to somehow carry my drooling teammates on a non-hypercarry herofree me bros
>>541271341It's not op at all it's just a way to not get raped if you ever dare to try and predict a light melee
>>5412723042 minutes for first boxes/statues. Post a sexy paige image instead and I will help you with more.
>* Drifter: Stalker's Mark ambush cast delay increased from 0.0s to 0.35si didn't expect a fraction of a second to matter but it feels bad
>>541272730It helps for pre-casting heavy melees or rends BUT it also prevents you from instantly coldfronting/light meleeing or dodging spells or immediately grabbing them at the perfect momentIt's actually kind of a sidegrade I've been enjoying the buffer on rend especially
>>541272712I was going to say I already did in the next thread but I forgot to hit submit.
>>541269648someone had it, it happened to me during the urn deposit on the losers side by the winning side near the big veil by the walker. Pretty sure. Tried checking but replay gets to 90something% then fails
I fucking hate billy playersThey're all so goddamn awfulGetting carried by the most braindead hero since abramsyet they still find a way to deflect the loss onto someone elsethe game would be better off without this shitstain of a hero and all the troglodytes that play himit kind of figures; to be able to tolerate his personality enough to play him, you have to be a proper fucking cockroach freak yourselfthere should be a button in the report window for "playing billy" because that encompasses basically all the three other options in one
I always thought drifter was unique but so many people have melee skills
I'm glad I can take the fall for my team and abandon when we have to go against a smurfing bebop. Why are all smurfs bebop players, why does bebop even exist in this game, he should have died with Neon Prime.
>>541244625It's literally so absurd. Game was complete pure kino 2014 - 2018 and last time I played randomly like 3 years ago it was already outrageously bloated
>>541244032I hope so>muh bloatNiggas never played the game anyway
>>541270646fuck off troon
