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Girlfriends Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-02-2025-update.84332/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>541272206
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yuri fags please die
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*runs down the inhouse*
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I'm coming, baby.
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inhouse doko
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i'm laaaaaaaaaash
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Yuriniggas deserve the stake
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The more of them the better
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please upload more mina to danbooru so the next novelai training lets me generate art of her
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need more patches. monthly patches ain't enough. two weeks a patch ain't enough. no, we need a patch every single day...
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wen will valve add a hero that fits my brand of mental illness!
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>>541333684
the lash is right there
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I would like a followup patch to deal with the melee soul bag thing, it should only be for large bags
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yuriQUEENS please live!
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>>541333684
bipolar fags with anger management issues are out of style, anon...i'm sorry...
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>>541333684
Hopefully soon
Lash is my favorite character in 10+ years. Feels good to be represented.
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I will main priest and only priest and in-between each match I will pray the rosary.
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There's nothing more satisfying than launching a Gheist bomb high above line of sight and killing a low HP enemy.
Its better than building the same boring gun items you could slap on every hero and winning by pressuring objectives
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>>541334060
Haha that's so quirky fellow red- I mean 4channer!
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>>541334001
lady geist your spine is broken
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Alright.
how do I
1:git gud
2:deal with teammates

I'm trying to improve, recently picked characters that can "carry" better than my usual, but the games i play usually go two ways.
Either the team does fine and i bring my stone to the final pile, not making the game winning play but making sure shit doesnt fall apart because of me.
Or the team cannot refrain from killing itself/endlessly brawling/never covering objectives and i'm not good/fed enough to save it.

It infuriates me that i cannot make a difference and even if some games are unwinnable, how the fuck do i save those horrible games with dumb as bricks teammates. Also playing past midnight really brings out the most brain dead players i've seen.
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>>541334506
t. Discord demon tranny
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>>541334534
oathbreaker will fix it
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Were these vyper changes a nerf overall? Sure seems like it to me, especially the barrier shit
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>>541334853
Only her T3 slide was a nerf. Everything else was a massive buff.
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>>541334469
>Its better than building the same boring gun items you could slap on every hero and winning by pressuring objectives
This is a legit issue for me because as someone with more moba background than shooters I feel I have bad mechanics and a much better macro than people at my elo, so I know how to read the map and when to push, but I cant trust my team mates to do it even when I try to coms, so I have to do it myself, which funnels my build into being able to splitpush, meaning most of my games look the same unless I happen to play a support, and even then sometimes I have to stop my enjoyment of playing the game with my teammates to get some gun and pushing
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>>541334001
What is with french girls and fucked spines?
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>>541334001
This skin is sexy
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>>541334001
Is there a Geist skin where she has the proper mammeries she deserves?
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>>541333872
>>541334016
t. Bebop
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How do you make an alt do you have to spend 5 bucks just to play deadlock?
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I just don't get how to get giga fed lots of souls.
Even by farming every camps, I can't reach the soul counts of some of the Hazes I've seen in my games.
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>read Dracula
>Mina Harker is first character's fiance
just a reference or the story actually happened in-universe?
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>>541334765
>git gud
look at the map and always be doing something.
don't just wait for lanes to crash, kill one of the little jungle camp enemies, even if you don't finish before you have to clear the wave.
is the enemy team fighting yours on the other side of the map?
if you can pressure walker or something do it, wasting time zipping or running to the fight will help less than getting a slot.
or at least you'll pull one or two enemies to come drive you away.

>deal with teammates
stop caring.
you aren't playing an rts, you can't control the 5 retards paired with you.

that you're thinking "could I have done better?" means you are better than the majority of players.

>tfw sometimes I get carried
>tfw sometimes only win because I stubbornly push lanes
>tfw sometimes it's my turn to get stomped
there are too many coinflips out of your control to care about.
for me, personally, it's more important to have fun.
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>>541336802
Just a reference like Victor
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snussy won this is for you anon bruddah. got carried by our shiv thoughbeit anyway
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krausersan647
pls invite
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>>541337710
nigga did you set your profile to private
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been afk spinning more and more in spawn lately
these lobbies have been getting worse and worse lately
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why isn't this game out-out yet
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>>541336436
all the sexy mods i've seen have been ass focused for whatever reason
confirmed for third worlder game
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>>541337815
oh whoops hold on shit lol
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>>541337815
>>541338056
no I'm public
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Okay, I need some genuine advice. I feel like my teammates are constantly afraid of fighting, always backing off even when we outnumber the opposite and it's a slam dunk.
Am I playing the game wrong? Am I too bloodthirsty? I feel like those fights are always safe but due to my team backing off for no reason I end up dying and it's getting me pretty frustrated.
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why does kudzu sound like buzzing flys?
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>>541336665
pl0x respond
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>>541336665
>>541338536
You dont, just get added.
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>>541338401
people care way too much about their k/d and will play like turbo pussies, it's not you
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>>541338401
the games i have where my lane partner is aggressive early and plays forward early are the games i win
the games i have where my lane partner sits under their guardian or on their stairs are the games i either lose or win on a fluke the enemy team fucking up a 6v6
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>>541338241
oh fuck, it's

76561198048740055

never begged before. PLS INVITE
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I'm a paradox enjoy but in the shit ranks so she doesn't work so well. I need two characters that I can 1v11. What's my best bet after this most recent patch?
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>>541336757
Solo kills.
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>>541339173
Haze if you can aim
Seven
Drifter
Victor if you're in really low shitlow
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>>541338010
it might be because it's a TPS so you are constantly looking at her ass
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how the fuck do i lose last hits as mcgin fully blasting the orb
what
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>>541339173
victor but the game needs to be 40+ min
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What if she's not a gargoyle, but a fairy...
A cement fairy...
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Victor airdrop
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post memes i want to save some
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>>541339750
Not sure if it's still a thing, but full autoing into orbs used to put you in a lower priority claiming orbs if you fired at the same time.
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>>541340151
Good to see my boy back in his element
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>>541340151
>spirit burn

that cant be right
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>>541340151
>open webm
>see swallow rod
>close webm
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just how fucking much do I need to escape emissary jesus fucking christ elo hell is real.
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>>541340208
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>>541340661
what?
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OP is a nigger, get a real thread pic instead
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>>541340208
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where’s the inhouse
I have a game to run it down
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>>541341029
old Dynamo's head looks so weird now
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any sinclair players
why does raigeki force his carpet build, theres no way its good, fleet and sop spikes are just so much better
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>>541341280
I dont play sinclair but its almost certainly because he plays for util and magic carpet makes bunny more cancer
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>>541340208
>>541340743
>>541341029
None of ts is funny
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>>541341828
no one asked
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>>541341828
Are you really so dumb you have to shorten "this"
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>>541341248
wong that is my job!
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>Wraith the gambler enjoyer
>nothing about gambling

release him from his prison icetoad
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So,whats the best way to play as a Doorman? Should you focus on spamming bells or CC the enemy team?
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>>541341932
If memes arent funny they are missing the point
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>>541342131
gunman
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>>541342131
you play like every other brain dead door man and just cart people for 700 damage and belling their ass on the wall
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>>541341973
>I can understand you just fine but its hecking dumb!! >:O
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>>541340589
Experimenting on Victor while I can. Wanted to see if spirit snatch+aura/battery would make fast and easy proc. Spirit snatch already does 250+ spirit damage on a light melee.

I'm trying to replace EE from my build. Soon I bet all Victors will be running spirit snatch, you'll see
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>>541342131
either anti carry maj leap echo shard or gunman if your iq is double digits
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>>541342157
no one asked
no one cares
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>>541340589
>>541342405
That was the wrong webm
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>>541342131
echo shart cart duration cc doorchad or gunman with max range doors
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>>541342405
I saw vegas build with spirit snatch and was definitely intrigued, like part of victor means you will always threaten melees and I see the value, I just dont know how feasible it is to not invest in the tankiness early but I only have about 30 games on him so I havent experimented much
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>>541342393
It's a clear sign you're an immature retard if you type like you're on a phone. We're not your school friends. You can kindly fuck right off back to whatever shit hole you crawled from.
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I didn't know crackshot fully upgraded reduces it's cooldown. Holliday is literally a monster.
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>like tears in the rain
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/dlg/ studs only play Abrams, Mo'n'Krill, Lash and Warden
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>>541342672
too bad her gun feels shit and shes a gay spirit cheese hero.
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So what’s priests kit? Also I feel like adding only one new pick is a recipe for disaster where everyone fights for it and quits.
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>>541342734
forgot how ugly the game was
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>>541342670
Cry me a river cunt, Im staying and you're gonna like it.
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>>541342775
skill issue
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>>541342851
early footage
https://youtu.be/bwP2TPnzg2Y
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>>541342925
Because of how stupid every post you make it's actually better for yourself to fuck right off. No one wants to read a juvenile faggots posts who shortens basic words like he's some phone addicted ADHD ridden tranoid zoomer. Here you will only get ridicule. Go back to Roblox or whatever your shit eating generation socializes in. You're trying too hard to fit in retard.
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>>541342925
>yeah i'm an immature retard so what?? i'll stay here lmao get owned
what an odd thing to say
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I kinda prefer how the item system was before the shop update. being able to go all in on one type of item instead of being forced to buy other types makes people just focus on one role instead of being more open to variety.
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>>541342641
>I just dont know how feasible it is to not invest in the tankiness
Spirit armour is genuinely my first t3 purchase almost every game still—usually in lane or fresh out of it. But spirit snatch is meant to replace that early escalating exposure a lot of people opt for which allows you to invest in other items like tankiness to get online earlier
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i didn't read the patch and spent like 10 seconds on top of a ball wondering why i wasn't picking it up
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>>541343113
not reading that
>>541343117
I didnt say that
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>>541343427
You actually read it and know it to be true.
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>>541342242
Gunman sucks, your spells deal no damage and you get outdamaged by every clown in the lobby past min 30
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>>541343134
Its still better to invest evenly but brainrot players will brainrot
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>>541343726
that is what I mean.
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>>541342758
>only play Abrams
Yeah thats me
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>>541342851
He looked very basic really
>another ranged push, which stunned if enemy hits the wall
>grenade
>stad still, gain regen + damage reduction
>shoot a crossbow for extra dmg, kind of like Vind ult
Hope this kit gets reworked
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>>541342758
>Lash
as a 4k hour dotard i gotta agree with this
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I keep trying to play Warden and I keep losing. I love how he looks and plays but I seriously can't figure out how to actually do anything with him. I know I'm an idiot.
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>>541339519
I can do Haze or Seven. Cool, thank you.
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>>541342758
and the /dlg/sissies only play mina, paige and ivy
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Lost a 50+ min game because someone called "go mid" when they had a dynamo with refresher
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>>541343134
I kinda disliked how the meta back then was typically to buy just as many tier 1 items as possibly to fill up slots and pad stats and then just a couple of expensive build defining items. You have to think a lot more when making builds now.
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>>541344640
I bet you spoke up into your mic and told everyone that was a bad idea as well
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>>541344640
Its a shame you had no hands to type a better call and no mouth to cry suffering.
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>>541336812
what do i do when i can't push when im kept in check by my lane opponent?
Just try to push into them anyways?
cause sometimes it just feels like the enemy can endlessly push while my team rolls over or doesn't react.
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>>541344640
Of course you opened mic and told them not to, because no one has a silence, right? You didn't just follow in all quiet like a sheep and lose?
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>>541344640
How you in a game that long against a Dynamo and didn't build the BKB item
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>50+ minute

thats like 3 deadlock games come the fuck on people! this is a good example of unnecessary game length, its a people problem not a game or mechanic issue. learn to push and end, PUSH PUSH PUSH
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Not really sure what they meant by the Vyper dagger changes. She lost her lane powerspike with the damage upgrade and is now basically a shittier Shiv dagger.
Spirit Vyper basically died since you can't reliably proc Tankbuster with the dagger anymore.
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inhouse. DOKO.
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>>541345271
Isn't it too early? Nobody's gonna join if I host it now
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>>541342851
>adding only one new pick
Isn't Raven almost ready as well?
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>lethal venom is a point and click
no fucking wonder
every viper player sucks massive cock but gets kills for free with it since it does infinite damage for the first 20 minutes of the game
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>>541345237
>Spirit Vyper basically died since you can't reliably proc Tankbuster with the dagger anymore.
You just need to land two daggers to proc tankbuster which isn't that bad.
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>>541345217
no, I'll be the first one to kill guardians
then I'll spend half of the match in the jungle
then I'll brool and not push the lane
then I'll get the rejuv but not push into the base, why should I?
then Ill wait for the first rejuv to run out and keep farming the jungle
THEN< and only THEN, I'll think of pushing the lane.
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>>541342758
Replace Warden with Bebop and that's literally me.
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>>541345271
host one in an hour
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>>541342758
replace lash with shiv
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>>541345271
I don't think I can join i throw matches today. Got a ton of shit to do today and the chance of my parents interrupting me multiple times is huge.
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>>541344821
I did tell them it was a bad idea but they all went in anyways
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>>541345387
idk man I started paying last week priest is literally the only one mentioned as nearly done.
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>>541342758
I cant wait for the capture point jungle objective to generate even more tears with mo
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Don't expect it to fill up fast cause it's very early for it. Deadlock inhouse

0CCDP
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>>541345923
kek
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Why would monster hunters and some other shit be trying to summon notchtulhu? The lore of this game is retarded
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>>541346198
what if they dont actually want to summon it but prevent the other side from summoning it
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>>541338906
Its not about k/d, its the perspective of catastrophic consequence when dying, how back it sets you and your team
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>>541346198
Rathalos to be released as a hero here since he was only made a boss in story mode of Smash
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>>541345487
It's pretty bad.
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>>541346296
>why don't we stop the summoning...by SUMMONING IT OUTSELVES?!?!?!
The most retarded plan. If they wanted to stop the summoning and didn't have shit for brains, they would be a third party fucking with the ritual.
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>>541346441
makes sense to me
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https://strawpoll.com/XOgOVvxDrn3
VOTE NOW
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>>541346565
*votes*
*doesn't actually vote*
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>>541345923
Ivy should have looked like this
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>>541346441
>>541346198
Literally every single hero fighting in this is mentally deranged, has some deep seated issues and/or an actual psychopath.
The patron pulls their strings and manipulates them into thinking it's a good idea, that's the whole point.
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>>541346198
Shiv's backstory was likely he used to be haunted/cursed/infected/werewolf?. MANY of his voicelines reference this, and there exists model where he looked like Mo but with his pompadour.
Warden wants to summon them to make them fuck off
Grey Talon want to find out who killed his family.
Calico wants.. who fucking knows maybe shes just being paid or something shes lame.
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>>541345237
that's what happens when you try to buff an ability that doesn't belong on a kit and was obviously just filling space into relevancy rather than scrapping it and making a new one that DOES fit and is fun to use
if you wanna see what a kit comprised of nothing but filler abilities looks like just check out Mirage
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>>541346695
Mirage has literally zero issues or problems.
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>>541346786
he's mentally ill
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>>541346786
his problem is he wants the djinn pussy but he has no land and his bitch is stuck in a bottle
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>>541344879
sometimes it be like that.
it may be that your lane partner doesn't use their health as a resource, or that your opponents are just more skilled.
you just have to play safe and hope for the best.

monster rounds can help; people can't really tank towers early game so if you clear the wave then they have to wait for the next one.
hoping the other lanes are doing better is obviously out of your control but I've had matches like that.
as long as your opponent isn't actively attacking objectives, you have time to do stuff: hit boxes, check camps, etc.

ask how you're being kept in check.
gun opponent shredding you? try the battle vest or suppressor to nerf their fire rate.
enemy spirit got you down? try enchanter's emblem, or even something like reactive shield (i.e. bully bebomb even more).

it feels bad having to buy items to counter what's killing you, but sometimes disarming hex or silence wave is all you need to kneecap the problem.
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SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!!
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>>541346927
So i need to develop my brain more.
I guess its a process. I just wish team wouldn't chase a mina/doorman/insert character here in the enemy jungle and get collapsed on 2v4, 5 times in a row.
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>>541346786
Mirage: One doesn't send out a CV to work for the Djinn, they... approach you, with an offer.
Mirage: Some days are safer than others, but... on the whole, no. I am grateful to be of service.


The entire shtick with Djinns is that they're tricksters, Mirage seems like he got kinda coerced and stockholm syndrom'd himself into thinking this is a civic honorable duty but will also get a reward, hence the term "offer".
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>>541342405
pathetic display by kelvin, very shameful
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>>541347423
I think he's just simping over nashala to be desu
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>>541342758
I play all but Warden, I suck at Warden.
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The black woman οf Valve unοriginality.
These are TWO different characters.
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>>541347221
like I said, you can't control your team.
instead, while they're on a goose chase, look at the lanes and identify which one is probably going to get pushed (or if you can push the enemy instead).
it can feel bad being lane janny but you'll vacuum souls that way and end up stronger than the people chasing kills.
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>can't git gud at aiming
Fuck my gay nigger faggot slave life
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>>541347791
aimlabs
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>>541346695
drifter has zero issues or problems
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>>541346565
>all the chuds tricked into voting yes just because you have to DRAG your choice to the top
devilish
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>>541347012
Is doorman the only hero that can fuck his own ass? Penis in butt sex only, no weird appendages.
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I will 1-trick Victor now, thanks Yoshi.
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>>541347791
Something is wrong with this game and mouse sensitivity. I'm conviced of it. Every other game works fine but in deadlock, even with the same settings, sometimes my aim is completely off.
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>>541346695
Name one problem with the Lash. I'll wait.
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>>541345923
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>>541347975
pocket can suck his own dick inside the briefcase
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>>541348040
He's not a She.
Women with Whips are the best.
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>>541347791
Just use cheats like 50% of the player base seems to be doing.
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>>541348040
bebop derangement syndrome
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>>541347975
don't matter, he doesn't have to because i will fuck him
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>>541348040
Blatant homosexual
Canonical tranny chaser
Self obsessed and thus easily manipulated
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Does this mean that the first dagger will apply -50% move speed?
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>>541348443
no.
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>>541348428
>Blatant homosexual
>Canonical tranny chaser
is this real or are those wacky election tourists at it again
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>>541347791
I'll just give the same general tips I always give. Lower the sense, change your posture to aim with your arm, and have more space for your mousepad. Alternatively, use a PS5 controller and embrace gyro aim.
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>>541348550
So it's -35% on the first hit and -15% per both other hits that stack?
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>>541348672
yes.
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>beat Oracle smurf
>shit talk him at win screen
Any better feeling?
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anyone with a high iq feel the differences in the CC diminishing returns?
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>>541348837
Why aren't you at Oracle then, anon?
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>>541348837
Beating a streamer into submission
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>>541348951
My teams are holding me back
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literally everygame I'm in is free today wtf?
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3/12 inhouse
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I actually do miss laning how it was on the old map: ganks and solo lane brought a lot more spice. Current laning feels so insular and repetitive

Most crosslane play you'll get is talon ICBM
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>>541349259
wdym the #1 thing to do after you get a guardian or lose your guardian is to rotate onto a diff lane
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>>541349107
join the inhouse for a change of pace
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Honestly this should be a reportable offense.
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>>541349407
already here and locked the hag ready to be demoralised into locking yamato and throwing.
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>>541349259
>wdym the #1 thing to do after you get a guardian
That's what I'm saying. Used to be even more involved where people would rotate inbetween waves to gank
>>541349489
>geist and
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>>541349475
pre-nerf stats screen of the average shitter that thinks Mina wasn't op
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>>541342758
>Dlg plays all the braindead shitter heroes
Yeah sounds about right.
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>>541349556
uh meant for >>541349383
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>>541348443
Ah, yes, bullet resist.
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>>541347720
They look completely different, what's your point here schizo?
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>>541349602
Squishy heros are objectively lower iq
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>>541349475
>still no white colour swap on the blood
I admire this generals integrity
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Mo and Krill are hard to play because everyone kills you first since Maurice is a big fat rat
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>>541348443
Honestly I think the play is never level dagger, what shit scaling and you have to waste time stacking instead of quick m1 ganks
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what's a victor build that actually lets me have fun and play the game instead of farting on creeps for 30 minutes
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>>541347897
why do trannies speak like this
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Anyone got a good Geist build?
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>>541350260
he's legit hard if people can aim but are too dumb to collect their free kill when you ult someone who is isolated.
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>>541350352
the entire purpose of the hero is to fart on creeps for 30 minutes and emerge as a giganigga
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>>541350352
ring of repick
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>>541350352
>>541350378
I like my builds...
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>>541334001
>bipolar fags with anger management issues are out of style
isn't this just pocket
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>>541346671
but instead of clothes she is covered with Ivy.
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>>541350504
i dont think he has anger management issues, his dad tried to kill him
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>>541350352
This is like asking for a Pocket build where he crawls on the ground like a slug instead of flying around the map.
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>>541346927
>it feels bad having to buy items to counter what's killing you
do people really think this? for me this is the only thing justifying the item/level up mechanics at all. the ability to uno reverse someone and gank them after they were giving me trouble earlier like a scene straight out of a shounen anime
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>>541346565
you guys actually enjoy lane?
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>>541350260
>mo takes all the damage because of his fat ass
>krill dies
???
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>>541350720
when i'm not laning against holliday or infernus lane phase is incredibly fun
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>>541350378
I'll share when the lobby starts I don't want to lose my hag.
>>541350803
Imagine if they worked like D.va Mech with their souls split between the two.
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>>541350720
i can aim, so yeah
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>>541350439
>>541350493
>>541350614
idk man I was seeing some vaugeposting about how victor is op because he has a midgame now so I wasn't sure what they meant by it
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>>541350720
laning phase is an important aspect to the variety of gameplay that makes deadlock so addictive, wanting exclusively 6v6 brools is like only wanting to eat cake for every meal, an adult eats and appreciates all types of food because they enhance the experience of each other.
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>>541350720
it's a troll post. the website doesn't let you click no, you have to drag it, which nobody does because it's completely unintuitive
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>>541350803
Krill is an elf, a christmas elf probly if the size is any indication, so like any elves he dies if some gay shit like broken heart or negative energy resulting from Mo's death or whatever
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>it’s another gun dps spam hero on the enemy team (vyper, haze, drifter)
>have to pay the plated armor, juggernaut, bullet resilience tax
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>>541351023
I mean I think you can come out of the jungle or side line at like 15 minutes instead of 30 but effectively you play the same way by farming until your power spike and then you just walk at the enemy team and stat check them. He is always going to play that way.
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>>541351172
disarming hex or suppressor
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>>541351081
Very true for dota2 but unfortunately this isn't dota2 and everylane is one sided and boring.
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>>541350570
hell no, normal clothes on the otherwise inanimate objects (like robots or statues) tend to immensely sexualise them for some reason, even if the object itself was depicting a naked human to begin with.
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>>541351248
>wow it takes a few more seconds to die
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>>541351274
maybe every lane is one sided and boring because you suck and always lose it LOL
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>>541351172
>it's another spirit dps spam hero on the enemy team (lash, gray talon, mina)
>have to pay the spellbreaker, curse, spirit res tax
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>>541351136
>Krill is an elf
I choose to believe that he's a monkey that escaped from the zoo with Maurice like in Madagascar
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You know, gun-spirit Vyper might be a good way to play.
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>>541351274
unlike dota you can literally dodge all of the enemies attacks instead of dealing with heat seeking arrows/fireballs
>b-but the few moves that lock on
counterspell
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>>541351357
the idea is that you kill them while they are doing literally 0 damage to you
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>>541351023
Headshot booster
Mystic burst
Mystic shot
Coldfront

Basically stack all the flat dmg items
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>>541351394
Valve better make him a magical circus monkey with a funny hat after the model update
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>>541351461
Oh and qsr on 3 which you never level and only toggle for qsr
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>>541351359
one or the other wins, it's always boring
>>541351414
Sometimes, depends who they are, what they build.
>>541351414
>rush 3200 soul item in lane
they'll just build 1600s and shove
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8/12
Hurry the fuck up

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is there some trick to aiming victors gun or what, it feels like when I use it literally half my shots go around the enemy but I see people be real dead on with it vs me. do I just play fatter characters or what
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Sinclair's magic bolt is so weird to me. I have a lot of trouble landing it
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>>541351725
>laning in dota is better cause i have 5000 hours
retard take
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>>541351829
His gun is literally inaccurate so on top of horrible damage fall-off it also will just ignore your cursor.
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>fuck nerf ivy quick
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>>541351920
I think a lot of dota players think they are god gamers simply for playing it, and they come to deadlock expecting to win for free and get shit stomped
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Just played Owl Talon.
I need to go pray for what I have done to the other team.
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>>541351920
Are you American perchance? You seem incredibly stupid and unable to understand nuance...
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>>541350686
it's my own projection.
it's how I think my teammates must feel, because I'm the only one buying such items.
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>>541352125
you're the one saying the game where you have to physically aim and lead your non hitscan projectiles to hit someone in a 3D space is easier to autowin lane then a wc3 mod that literally autoaims your attacks for you
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>lane with good player who's doing their best to do good comms and calls and keep the team from falling apart
>end up feeding and losing anyways
is there a worse feeling
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>>541352257
>feeding retard makes the worst most retarded boss call which you call stupid and tell team not to do
>team does it anyways
>costs us the game
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>every other streamer using fov and hud cheats
kinda pathetic how thirsty these niggas are to win
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>>541352428
Show me proof of 2 streamers doing this
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>>541352257
>can't contribute to the teamfights enough and miss your shots
>lose
>start another game thinking things will get better
>lose for the same reason reinforcing the fact that you're shit at the hero and at the game
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>>541352654
I'll just believe him, otherwise I'd need to actually watch a streamer to find out.
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>>541352075
did you forget how to fly?
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I honestly don't like how lizard like they've made ivy.
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>>541353126
shut the fuck up you retard
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>>541348951
because im queing with friends and theres a 70% chance we lose
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>>541344915
not him but
>Start screaming in Mic that Dynamo is sliding down the tunnel to rape us
>Our doorman ults him
>We grab the rejuve with no problems
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Holy fucking shit bros Holliday is so fun once you figure out how to aim with kegs and bounce around the map. It's a shame I can already foresee her being given the Batrider treatment whenever le e-sport is actually established. Some people are going to pull absurd plays by piloting her.
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from now on whenever i get a teammate who goes into the jungle the second we finish a wave in the first 8 minutes of the game im just going to follow them into the jungle
i just had an ivy who left me alone more than he was with me in lane
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1 slot remaining
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ONLY ONE SLOT LEFT FOR THE INHOUSE BE THERE OR BE SQUARE

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I'm making tea this is taking too long.
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>>541353283
Yoshifag already nerfs characters based on what ‘pro’s and streamers do because people are like sheep and copy their builds all the time
>gun ivy starts being used in DNS and by streamniggers
>gun ivy epidemic blows out and she gets nerfed
>support drifter ult was used last DNS
>you are now seeing drifters maxx their ult
it’s just so pathetic
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>>541353126
her face was more cave bat-like before redesign. glassy eyes, pale skin and all that
with 2 vampires and a snake it's a bit of an overlap
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Do we shuffle before we start?
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>>541353676
Looks fine without shuffle to me
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How are you supposed to use Vyper's ultimate? Apply, apply Lethal Venom, take a breather, maybe reload, and then continue fighting?
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>enemy haze kills 3 for in teamfight and takes walker
>abrams says the game is over
>we literally have only 10% less souls than them
>they couldn't even take mid
>abrams bitches all game asking why are we fighting when "the game is literally over"
>we proceed to lose every next fight because he just dives in and dies
How do we keep people like this out of this game? No mental 0 endurance flacid fucking cucks
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>>541351081
you're retarded if you think removing lanephase would devolve the game into 40 minute 6 v 6 brools
if that were how it worked then we would see that happen for 30 minutes already as soon as the lane phase ends yet it's not until ultra lategame that you start to see that. once again laneniggers keep using shitty tactics to try and make us 4 lane truthers seem insane amongst the general population
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>>541353595
>someone uses a strat on a public event
>suddenly it is everywhere
W0W
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>>541353771
I enjoy the RNG.
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>>541353803
press 4 when you are ratting and someone comes your way
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>>541353803
the same as doorman's, set up a free kill
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cmon 1 more niggers
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playercount has gone down 50% since last month btw
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>>541353803
I either use it when I'm taking an objective and people chase me so I can stun them and run away, or I use it when I'm invading the enemy jungle so I can do the combo where I ult someone, slap them with a light melee with spirit snatch, then apply venom and kill them once the stun wears off with daggers and cold front.

Also use it to steal midboss.
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icefrog will never add sex will he...
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>four on keyboard
>produce frogs
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>>541354180
with whom exactly?
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>>541354223
sex with ivy and mina players
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>>541353215
That's it mang. That's the secret sauce right there.
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>>541354223
with icefrog?
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im gonna play vyper tonight
I have a 20% winrate with her
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Post:
>Rank
>Average length of your past 10 games

Just trying to get an idea.
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>>541354529
>mid ascendant
>30.2 over last 15
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>>541354529
looping Alchemist/Arcanist
30-50 minutes(20-30 even if some people dc)
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>>541354403
Gay
>>541354365
Even more gay
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>>541340743
warden needs to be on the right too
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>5 games as of this patch
>all fucking the worst games imaginable
>ragers, cheaters, afkers
what happened with mm
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>>541354959
you were moved down to the rape dungeon q
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I tried melee Lady Geist out and it was pretty fun.
>Run at them like an ape
>Suck them off with my 2
>They try to anticipate the melee
>Early parry
>Hit them with my green hand
>BOOM HEADSHOT!
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>>541354529
archon 3
30 or below
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>Eleven (11) losses today
>Went from Arcanist to Seeker
>Every game had a leaver
>But it's ok because I get to stomp noobs now, so my fun has increased somewhat
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I mean at some point matchmaking HAS to give me a win, right?
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>>541354365
i volunteer!
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>>541355935
No, I got 5 wins in a row today so that's how equilibrium is maintained, thanks bro
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guO88IamgGM
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>enter match
>vindicta buys fucking close quarters
>bebop always ults in the middle of the enemy team
>half of the team is always jungling
>buy magic carpet to push lanes, but i cant do that so i have to babysit the lanes almost all times
>had to buy counters for haze, mina and victor because no one else would
>by a miracle we defend agains their rejuv and get our own later
>our yamato decided to push yellow lane instead of going in with the team
>lose rejuv and then lose the game

also, i fucking hate mina, that retard bitch is literally too broken. she should not have a stacking buff at all.
>>541356158
big fucking deal.
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>>541356158
>spirit res doesn't work on victor's stink area
>no buffs to compensate for the dogshit slow start it has
uh i guess you're just forced to run gun victor now? thanks yoshi very cool
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>>541356158
>aura of suffering self damage can no longer be reduced by spirit resistance
Does this not just kill him again?
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>>541356158
Man this guy just refuses to let Victor be strong for more than a day, only seven is entitled to that luxury.
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>>541356158
>Aura of Suffering self damage no longer reduced by spirit resist
Bro leave him alone Yoshi he's already dead
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>>541355939
hey...
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>>541356158
just remove him at this point kek
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another inhouse where TA successfully stacks the teams so he goes against the two known hardcore feeders, insane
whats even the point of playing these
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>>541356158
>people itt actually bitching about this
same people bitched about mina not being able to nuke buildings
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>>541356675
TA is fucking awful, just talks all game and gets carried. I'm never joining an Inhouse early enough for europoors again
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>>541340692
I had to win 27 games in a row.
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>>541356962
>>541356962
And he fucking picked victor too lmao.
Absolutely shameless, literally just stacking the teams so he gets to bully the retards.
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>>541356806
Retard
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* Victor: Pain Battery T3 heal reduced from 20% to 18%
* Victor: Jumpstart cooldown increased from 22s to 23s
* Victor: Aura of Suffering self damage can no longer be reduced by spirit resistance (same as Jumpstart)
* Victor: Aura of Suffering self damage reduced from 85% to 80%

* Fixed Wall Jumps not refunding stamina if a mantle or zipline occurs within the refund window (similar to how we treat other stamina refunds)

Bye bye Victor players ?
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>>541356158
Victor is literally just a gun character now holy shit lmao.
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>>541356806
Do you not understand that a character needs to be good at something to be playable?
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>>541356158
>Aura of suffering can no longer be reduced by spirit resist
Well that was a fun 24 hours, back into the dumpster he goes I guess
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>>541356675
>>541356962
he was already doing this last inhouse and thats unironically how they died
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>>541356550
yes, nonny?
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>>541356675
it's 50/50 kind of thing. some times it works because most of the team is shit and some times it doesnt because the enemy team isn't shit
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>>541357334
Be the ivy to my haze and help me get off before, during, and after the match
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Paige bros, we're so back.
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Don't be mean guys
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>>541356962
>>541356675
There was no shuffling in that lobby, the lanes were decided by the players themselves after I started hosting
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>>541354479
Post build
>>541357180
Just build hp, I mean you were already building forty, right anon?
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synclair is getting a rework right? he feels so incomplete
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inhouse dead already?
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>>541357408
i like this image
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inhouse end-game stats doko
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>>541357180
They should just remove Victor. He's just such a boring design.
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Update your games and rejoin
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>>541357553
yeah wtf
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>>541357408
TPR
total paige rape
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>>541357553
Patch

New code:
6SD9J
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can we shuffle
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i see you have an arcueid icon. you wouldn't just put that on without playing melty, would you?
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>>541357651
YOU DONT NEED TO MAKE A NEW LOBBY DUMBASS

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Spirit or gun shiv? What's good in the current meta?
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>>541357493
The very top one in the public builds
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>>541357731
Maybe he just really likes tsukihime.
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>>541357634
>>541357651
Not this shit again
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>>541357651
Nevermind
>>541357634
Join this one

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>>541357731
nigga read tsukihime
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>>541357765
green shiv
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yoshi should pay raito to do some deadlock tracks imo
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>>541357838
Tsukihime sucks. Not one good girl in that entire VN.
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why did they buff calico
nobody enjoys playing as or against calico
the game is just worse when she is meta
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>>541357180
>victor has ONE (1) unique playstyle which is health management and unique DoT death AoE stink area surrounding him
>requires both him and the enemy to play around this

>kit design is so fucking retarded that it is straight up impossible to balance without it being either broken or garbage because it is at it's core a stat check
>nerf the only thing making this playstyle viable

GREAT JOB HOTPOO!!!! KEEP IT UP BUD PLEASE KEEP COPYIN- I MEAN "IMPLEMENTING" MORE DOGSHIT DOTA AND LEEG DESIGNS SURELY IT'LL WORK THE THIRD TIME YOU DO IT!!
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>>541357334
Raping Mina senseless while she's stuck in the cube!
Encouraging Viscous to buy echo shard so he can cube her again!
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>>541358008
just don't engage with her when she has ult up (she usually has ult up), duuuuuh
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>>541358008
pretty sure there is one callico enjoyer in the inhouse.
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>>541357917
>not one
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One more needed for inhouse
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>>541358076
yes the unmistakable stench of cocoa butter follows him everywhere
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>>541358125
AYO DAS RAYCIS
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>>541356158
Sweet! Now when are they going to fix match making!
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>>541356158
>can't use spirit resist to reduce aura damage anymore
so what the fuck do we even build on him now?
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>>541358090
>>541357937
misclick xp
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>>541358057
Her ult has like a 30 second cooldown man she always has it.
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>>541355935
This is now 11 losses in a row.
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>>541358230
come do an inhouse (loss)
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>>541357731
I play Melty and read both Tsukihimes. Despite the icon, Hisui is the best.
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>>541354479
19% now
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>>541358195
Another squishy assassin, just with a second life
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* Victor: Pain Battery T3 heal reduced from 20% to 18%
* Victor: Jumpstart cooldown increased from 22s to 23s
* Victor: Aura of Suffering self damage can no longer be reduced by spirit resistance (same as Jumpstart)
* Victor: Aura of Suffering self damage reduced from 85% to 80%
well victor just got his head chopped off
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>>541358195
pure unga bunga gun with berserker and leech/vampiric burst
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>>541358439
holy shit the self damage is HUGE
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>>541356158
AT LEAST INCREASE HIS FUCKING BASE HEALTH AND BOON PER HEALTH THEN YOU STUPID GREEN CUNT
HE HAS AS MUCH HEALTH AS FUCKING MINA NOW
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>>541358439
good
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>>541358008
They didn't really buff her.
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When are they adding a kaiju sized hero that can punch walkers?
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>>541356158
Soon it will be:
>Jumpstart is no longer affected by healing % items aka 100% healing reduction while in use, why not
>t. Yoshi
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>>541358572
they directly buffed all 4 of her abilities and her gun
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>>541358572
don't downplaying the gloom bomb buff. that shit is retarded.
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>>541358008
This. No one actually wants Calico to be strong
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I cant help but feel like this is my fault for not playing for a week and logging in to win 5 in a row on victor and logging out last night
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>>541358701
the gun buff is worthless, the only actual buff is the ult CD
the rest are just QoL. if you've ever played her you'd know how utterly retarded hitting the bombs or the slash can be. or even the ult.
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>>541358195
Aura of suffering does flat damage! ITS OUR TIME
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>>541358846
veil walker is unironically still better on victor, you will never proc the fortitude passive on him
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>>541358824
>increasing the range of abilities and making them easier to hit isn't a buff
so you'd be fine with them reverting all the range/hitbox changes to puddle punch and hook right?
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>actual hp-maxxing victor build is the only viable build now
Gonna make you fold in half to enemy damage now though since you're not build 99.99999% spirit res anymore.
>>541358946
Both.
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>>541358439
So does this mean building spirit damage on Victor only serves to kill yourself faster now?
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>>541358946
Im just saying if spirit resist does nothing then the pivot is Max HP stacking
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>nerf victor's one trick into the ground
>see how much people suck on him
>rework his skills
valve just does what they have to, you suffer for science
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>>541359042
both seems like some crack smoking shit but anythings possible I guess

>>541359137
yeah but if youre only buying one veil walker is still better, a single veil traversal is effectively the same health and you get free spirit power as well
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>>541359137
healstacking
radiant regeneration + vampiric burst + healing tempo
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Mina is a throw pick now stop playing her. Her only redeeming quality was she was able to obliterate objectives now she can't.
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>pocket creates frogs for his ultimate attack
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>>541359298
this is a good thing
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>>541359148
>>rework his skills
not gonna happen
look how long it took for them to give vyper an actual Q and then realize they just fucking copy pasted shiv's knives for her
look at the state of mirage ffs
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>>541354529
>Seeker III
>35:41
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High likelihood we’ll see another frog hero, they seem to be magically significant.
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>>541357408
I hate Paige so much bros
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>frogs everywhere
>cats everywhere
>owls everywhere
>no dogs

so valve is just full of goths huh
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>>541358195
You play Abrams or MnK like a real person
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Paige's hairy, sweaty asshole, with those little ginger curlies.
https://files.catbox.moe/vxr5f1.png
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>>541355935
How the fuck do you lose as Warden? Reach 30k souls, click enemy, then click enemy objective, win
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>>541356158
there is 0 point to level his aura now lmao. just max stim and ult and go full gun
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they probably should have waited to buff victor for when there were actual good antiheal items in the game but what do i know
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>>541359662
>no dogs
They're playing Mina
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>>541357779
The troll build?
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>>541359792
>ai
Why even bother posting
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>>541357401
i have no idea if this is ironic but i'd be down for that desu
>>541358045
catching mina with her 2 on cooldown and hatefucking her till her vampire thighs are bruised purple..
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>>541359662
there are pictures of werewolves in the hideout
>full of goths
VTM has werewolf societies, no excuse
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>>541359776
no real people play mo and krill
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>>541358946
Nah veilwalker is crap now
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>>541360141
my dick is hard, but i know we're both men so i could not actually go through with it, im sorry anon
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>>541360362
top jej, people really see a 5% nerf and think things are gutted
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>>541359662
The player is the dog
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How the fuck do I play Bebop now that veil walker got omega nerfed?
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>servers down
Dead game.
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>>541360476
>my dick is hard, but
pretty sure that makes you gay
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>>541359776
this. spirit abrams was/is still just better victor even post nerfs
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>>541358195
you don't
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>>541360795
So is spirit Abby the best build he has right now? Its so braindead, even more so than any other build he has
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>>541360639
You don't.
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>>541361035
yup, slam into wall, heavy melee and watch them melt like an ice cub from aura.
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I have 100 hours into this game already and I never noticed there's a building with an antenna that releases electric discharges that damage you if you get close to it, rooftops are giga barren, I hope they add another strong jungle monster up there or something.
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>>541361315
it's to stop roof camping
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How do I Mirage? Stack cdr?
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>>541361256
I still need to test how his gun behaves after the changes since his charge no longer benefits melee
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>>541358439
it's getting reverted anyways it's a terrible change
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>>541361424
Yeah cdr, ricochet, tankbuster, boundless and you'll be doing a gorillion damage
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god this game is fucking ass
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>>541361315
they used to have a purpose back when the sky ceiling wasn't as low as it is now and you could climb on top of almost every building

i still don't understand why it's so low now. why even have buildings that SHOULD be able to be climbed but aren't just add those spikes there if you don't want people to stay there for long jeez
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>>541361443
it does but not that much. maybe 3 more damage with no items from ive seen. the patch notes has different wording than what is in the game
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>>541359967
Bro your crippling?
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Metro is easily the most entertaining streamer. It's too fun to watch him crash out every single game
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>>541360639
Veil Walker is still insanely good.
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>>541361553
I think it reverted to what it used to be some time ago with + fixed amount of dmg per pellet instead of % to gun
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I was Victor first fuck off
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post inhouse stats NOW
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>>541361035
>So is spirit Abby the best build he has right now
not even close, the regular gun/melee build is going to always be better
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This is your lane partner for the day. You won't win this game.
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>>541361898
It's tragic you don't want to see
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>>541361976
POST THEM NIGGER
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>>541361898
Don't do it, I did really bad. I should bought reactive barrier sooner. Playing Geist against a million stuns makes me want to
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>>541358846
Just tried this and you don't survive much in fights without resists because his base health pool is so fucking small. Even with this you're squishy as fuck.
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>>541362110
yea these victor changes might have worked if he had a hp pool like MnK that just goes so high
But now it makes him reliant on lifesteal with a shit ass small aoe
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>>541361976
i want to see how badly i did
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bros i can't stop playing haze
everyone is so used to them being shit they don't expect me to actually be able to aim duel them so i win a lot of engagements for free...
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>>541358427
18%
>>541360070
I mean every build is a troll build if the hero is just a troll pick
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ratting should not be possible in this game. It isn't dota you can't tp in response to it. You can lose the game just because an ivy or mirage wants to hide in the sewers after 30 minutes and never show their face
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>>541362110
Its over
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>>541361676
annoying voice/face
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>>541362474
I love ratting. Interacting with enemy gamers is not fun. I just want to kill buildings when no one is there to stop me.
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so victor was playable (not even broken) for less than 24 hours and got killed again? sick
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>>541362913
yes but thats not all, they removed a fundamental aspect of kit necessary for it to function, so hes deader than ever
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>>541362913
I played a bunch yesterday then watched streams when I got off and I'm not sure I saw one victor lol, was he that broken?
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>>541362913
>Mina rapes the game for a month straight and nothing happened until patch (actually gets buffs too to "make up" for the nerf)
>Seven has destroyed the game for a year and half, nothing but shitty slap on the wrist nerfs while they completely redid his ultimate to make it good

>Victor is good for 15 hours
>DEPLOY THE HOTFIX

This games gonna die (again) with these devs
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>>541362913
I played 2 victor games earlier before the latest patch where I all-in'd ult early and it was a really fun and unique playstyle but it didn't feel op. You did have to lose your ult for it to work. Dunno why they nerfed his spirit instead of his gun desu.
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>>541363026
he was playable before 38 minutes but far from broken. hell victor wasnt even broken the last time they nerfed him and these buffs didnt even recover him to that power level
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>>541360476
weird. that just makes me throb harder personally
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>>541361676
>"these are your final moments"
>throws 100 damage bomb at you

what did calico mean by this
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>>541361676
calico if she wasn't ugly as shit
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>>541354529
low phantom
28 mins
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>>541362335
Yea but the top 1 builds are literal troll builds with the worst possible items botted up to trick people

>>541362474
You dont need tp when the movement system enables 2 second rotates
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>>541363372
He's dead forever. Mirage tornado is still only 1s because people were rushing echoshard( objectively trash)
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lash bros
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>>541364520
I think paige is probably higher now post buffs
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>>541364520
>paradox s
>vyper a
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>People here only hold opinions on balance based off pick/bans in pro play and Eternus tier lists
/dlg/ really kneeled to streamers huh
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>>541364520
mina trannyxisters what do we do? how do we downplay now?
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>>541364719
No i still have my own system for teirlists
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>>541364719
I only trust my eyes.
Mina is still strong as fuck.
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i played a game at 3am this morning and the players were all worse on average than when playing in the evenings.
i thought unemployeds were supposed to be better at the game?
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>>541364520
uhhhh guys i thought abrams was bad and that you "just parry bro" to completely counter him
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>>541364520
I seriously hope you guys dont take this faggots opinion seriously
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>>541364872
The best players are in the morning because of coffee, low player pools lead to high rank variance but a morning alchemist is 300% better than a 3am alchemist
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the only damage items you need as shiv are toxic bullets and decay
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>>541365246
True. Shiv was doing 1k damage to me with Decay alone and I had armors. How busted is that item
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>>541364520
this dude is so fucking retarded its insane. he has grey talon in c tier last time he did one btw and now after 3 nerfs hes A.
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>>541364520
>seven unironicly put in D
????????
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>>541362208
I had some moderate success but we're back to being Potential Man again.
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>>541364520
if you guys listen to Metro I sincerely hope you never join my lobbies
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>>541364520
I love German DSP
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inhouse stats?
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inhouse stats doko
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>>541365246
Basically but id also add ee late
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I'm already quite tired of playing against Victor every game. Those nerfs really didn't do much did they.
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''People'' advertising streamers here are disgustingly pathetic. Get your own opinion clowns.
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>>541365497
>>541365519
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>>541365579
he's dead what do you mean
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>Victor is ok
>buff him a bit
>Victor is now strong
>nerf him really hard
>now he's weaker than when they felt he needed a buff


???????
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>>541365579
>words uttered on bizarro /dlg/
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matchmaking is really fucking bad today
its like these terminally braindead individuals are allergic to anything that isnt afk farm, cant even be bothered to show up to urn on their side when im holding it for 20s mid already pinging like a madman
shit like this kills my motivation to play, theres absolutely nothing i can do to win games like this
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>>541365669
>mina is not S tier niggas in shambles right now
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>Shiv throws a few knives, decays someone, maybe hits his dash once or twice
>Lingers on the sidelines until someone is low enough to autoaim execute
>If you debuff remove he can just reapply a knife since he has a billion charged
>People consider this character fine
Rework fucking when? Nauseating to play against weak or strong
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>>541365645
Zoomers grew up believing everything streamers say. There is a reason so many private organizations fund them because it's easy to control zoomers if you tell them how to think. I blame public schools removing critical thinking because of "racism."
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>>541365784
play shiv then, hes not particularly strong atm
if youre not ahead and fed youre tickling people with your knives while also not being able to tank
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>>541340151
>50k souls up
>35 minutes
>haven't broken base guardians or taken mid boss
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>>541365784
So you're saying if I have debuff remover all I need to worry about is the reduced duration and dps from one knife? Don't see how this is a problem, that's like 75 damage
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Frag ruined
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Do you just go hybrid gun Victor now? Put only one point into the aura for the slow, level ult for free attack speed and spirit extra damage on attacks, his gun is really good
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>>541365947
Not strong yet ranked high by pros and picked fairly often in tourneys sure bud
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>>541366183
vyper troll
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0CCDP
0CCDP
0CCDP
0CCDP

Inhouse, join for free win and free skins
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inhouse lobby code?
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>/dlg/ posters are mad that buying debuff remover, a single 3200 soul item isn't enough to hard counter shiv with all the items he's bought and remove him from the game
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>>541348027
it's not hitscan.
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>>541366224
hes like a-b tier, what else are you gonna pick
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>>541366712
Counterspell.
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>Tier lists only matter when they fit my narrative
>Pro play only matters when it fits my narrative
This is your reminder (you) are not Eternus, you are likely not even Ritualist and you should form your own opinions rather than parroting others like an NPC subhuman
>Buh buh Mina OP and Victor bad and and
Learn to explain why instead of parroting the opinions of streamerniggers
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>Mina ult nerf doesn't apply to Mid boss
BRAVO YOSHI
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This game is blackpilling.
People are really dumb. Gamers are really fucking dumb.
The decision making and psychology behind the way these dogs on my team play is something to be studied. I wonder what else they play.
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elephant rounds seems like such a stupidly designed item, the downside of it is largely ignored by all of the people that buy it.
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>>541366932
nah, the velocity nerf genuinely sucks
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>>541366886
they nerfed midboss resists
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>>541366932
Actually thats good design when you can play around the negatives.
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I impressed a 4 man queue enough they added me and keep inviting me and every match has been a breeze since.
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>>541366932
i love how people call it "elephant rounds" despite the actual name not being anywhere near lel
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>>541367137
That's nice but I play with actual friends I've known for years which will always be infinitely superior to a random stack
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>>541364520
>Youtube^BR
huehuehue
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>>541364920
He's infinitely better at the game than you are. Far more qualified to put together a tier list.
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>>541367064
Skill issue

Just lead your shots and its the best item in the game. The pros honestly have no excuse and should be buying it everygame
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>>541367221
kill yourself metro you worthless faggot
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>>541367213
i play with your mom
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>>541367213
All of my irl friends are CoDfags unfortunately, I basically never actually play games with them.
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>>541367267
velocity nerf makes tracking at max range shittier, there's no reason to pick it up on a M1 if it forces you to get closer
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So how should one be building Victor now? People say gun but it's not like his gun has been buffed in any way. Before it was simply maxing out your spirit resist to make aura not reverse rape you.
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>>541333013
>no holiday hero announcements
probably only getting a single new character launch (Priest) which is sad cuz i'm not a super completifag and i'm starting to get burnt out on the roster
i feel like a moba that did limited formats like mtg (but without actively ruining them) and released new heroes constantly would be more my speed
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>>541367372
There is already falloff max range doesnt matter for 95% of the cast
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>>541367267
i dont really care about bullet res, the -stam gen is really fucking bad since you cant chase at all
why would you want this on tanks that are already slow, who is this item for?
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>>541367537
Its for rats shooting stationary obj I think
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Me when I have a shotgun so there is little to no downside to grabbing elephant rounds.
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>>541366183
this vyper's build is purely about stealing kills and finishing off people so while they rack up a lot of kills they actually have no impact and lose
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>>541367537
Or maybe for heros already getting stam mastery so the modifiers cancel out
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>>541367476
Ring of repick
Welcome to icefraud balancing, I'm not the icefrog schizo but there's a reason so many people hate him and stopped playing dota.
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I've been playing Mina while padded and it feels really good to frag noobs while sitting in my own fresh, hot shit. Thank capitalism for designing bif, poofy soft adult diapers for me to wear and poop in while I play my games and just littlespace the fuck out.
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>>541367819
not really, trying out a hybrid version since the spirit nuker vyper got gutted
ngl might be a solid deranking build
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Ah yes, today I will play some deadlock!

>1-16 infernus
>teammate that stands under guardian during the entire laning phase
>leavers
>no split pushes

yeah idk why I bother
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>>541367537
>why would you want this on tanks that are already slow
What fucking tank is slow on this game exactly?
Abrams has 3 base stamina, a charge and a fucking up and down dash.
MnK I'm not even gonna entertain that.
Victor gets MS up the ass and always goes fleetfoot.
Billy maybe if we consider him a tank? and he has a fucking charge forward, 3 stamina and chains to bring them to you.
And any of them can buy a myriad of cheap mobility items that would make any attempt at making them slow completely moot.

People keep trying to force and speak of shit like it's dota when half of the hard earned Dota design that went through decades of trial and error doesn't even apply here and things are broken as fuck.
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>>541367476
the only “buff” he got in these last two patches is the ultmaxx with spirit proc on gun
So yes gun into midgame is a bit better now with having that budget mm off dying. He’s still just a shit hero that you have to force lifesteal and eshift to use 3 though
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You can still Victor but you gotta Victor the Victor.
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>>541368250
just try it ingame its really really bad
big chars got their dash and walk speed nerfed already
someone climbs on a rooftop and you can just say goodbye, its not going to happen
with -bullet speed on mnk your bullets might as well not exist and victor, idk isnt he a shit tank anyway?
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>>541368584
Here's the item build. Patent pending. Experimental tab hidden because it's experimental

Skills: Don't level aura. That's it. Just get the other shit. Ult-max it.
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Can you guys stop ruining inhouses? Thanks
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how dumb is this:

what if vyper's slide automatically spent stamina every x seconds and progressively boosted her speed for each stamina spent
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Who is the big single hit character?
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>>541369102
what happened now xister
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>>541369212
gay talon
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>>541369212
Gray Talon most of all, Vindicta, Yamato, Shiv melees in full rage, Lash (his best attack and his best items were nerfed so I don't know if he's still a good pick beyond his ultimate), Paradox carbine
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>We're up mid game bigly
>Team decides to farm the jungle
>Run around doing absolute fuck all
>Enemy teams M1 carries get farmed up
>We lose
This game man I swear the lows are fucking demoralizing. Yes, I did communicate with the team but they still fucking ran around like headless chickens and to no surprise it was a arcanist game despite me being ritualist like fuck man these people are fucking retarded it's just not fun.
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Is spirit Miggu good? I know she shreds everything with gun but I like Engineer more than Heavy and I heard spirit was kinda bad on her.
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>>541369212
talon and sinclair
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sex with mina and ivy players. steam erp sessions after stressful games with mina and ivy players.
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>when your heal slut gets on mic and it's a male voice
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>>541369610
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>>541366508
Does anyone know how to set up notifications on 4chanx? I'd really like to get notified when these are happening but I can't find any info on setting them up (asked chatgpt and it made some shit up)
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>>541367134
it would be but desu it's outperformed by basically every other 3.2k item
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>>541366932
-20% stamina regeneration is fucking huge in my eyes.
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>>541367979
>tfw you've been to a grippy sock location enough times to know this isn't ironic
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>>541366932
it's op
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>>541367169
>big fat overweighted obese bullet magazine

theyre elephant rounds, dont care.
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>victor in the toilet
>same with mina
> billy drifter and infernous still turbo cancer
>vyoer is unstoppable with even slight farm

what in the absolute fuck is valve doing???
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I wish some items that provide spirit/gun resist reduction would show their final amped damage at the end somewhere
hard to gauge their value
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>>541369453
>>541369212
vindicta, even with every spirit item you can imagine, and execute threshold cannot sniff a single gay talon arrow, and he gets more off them, and they come off cd faster, and its his basic ability
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>>541370486
bro infernus is bad streamers said so what do you mean
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>>541370564
Valve can't into sniper characters. Gray Talon is just better Vindicta and it's embarrassing that it took people this long to notice
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>>541370572
Basically all of the good steamers are saying that Infernus is great though.
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how the fuck do you counter this piece of shit i swear every game i play against him he just pops out of nowhere taking no damage and pressing 4 to kill the whole team
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>>541368439
>the only “buff” he got in these last two patches is the ultmaxx with spirit proc on gun
Which sucks fucking asshole because it's a T3 and only when it's on cool down (the only time you DON'T want to be making plays as Victor)

If its condition was having your ult up it might actually be useful
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let's see, what are my options for sniper characters...
>sniper who can fly and has a cc ability
>sniper who can fly and has a cc ability but worse
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IN A FEW SECONDS IT WILL ALL BE OVER
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>>541370786
Antiheal.
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Victor was a stat check hero and a few weeks ago I said they would never ever balance him, they've already given up and reached the same conclusion as me

Whoever made that hero design needs to be fired frfr
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>this or that is too blah blah blah
I play mo & krill balance in all its forms is irrelevant 1+2+ice+you can’t shoot+sit here and die with me. Come back with a team.
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>>541370904
there is not a single person who would take a mo players opinion seriously, goo goo gah gah nigga
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>>541370786
Disengaging and kiting his ult duration (nobody in low ranks will ever stop brooling though)
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WOW Victor is even more miserable to play than before the buffs.
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>>541371071
He feels even easier to kill than before lol. When I'm playing Mirage he dies if I even look at him funny.
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>>541370823
sniper characters are objectively dogshit for the health of any shooter
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>>541370819
If they hadn't just nerfed him victor would actually be in a good spot because the t3 ult buff was actually very effective for a gun style victor(or even a spirit victor). It was a good tradeoff for playing a bit more risky.
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>Victor: Aura of Suffering self damage can no longer be reduced by spirit resistance

good, never bought resistances anyways. it's for pussies
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>>541371256
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>>541370823
widowmaker from overwatch is literally solely responsible for the trend of hypermobile snipers in video games and it's fucking cancer, fuck blizzard
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>>541371312
>talon and vindicta
>hypermobile
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>>541371160
kek shitter
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>>541371474
Compared to games before Widowmaker where snipers were generally stationary and you needed a plan if you got jumped instead of a single button that let you run away easily, yes.
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>there are currently no snipers in the game that cannot fly
>there are currently no snipers in the game with hair that isn't white
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what's the best hero to play if i want to make tanktards like mo or abrams miserable
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>>541371806
mina
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I can't do this anymore you guys
>match is going really well despite the haze being really fucking good.
>team communicates with each other, so does the other team
>I am finally able to be THE LASH
>drifter out of nowhere stays AFK in base for like 10 minutes
>never comes back
>the match is cancelled
>if it wasn't for that we would have fucking won because we got to their patron before the other team

I fucking hate the lower ranks. More than half of my matches are ruined because of quitters.

Last match I had a fucking vindicta with close quarters
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>>541370030
you can just counteract the penalty mostly/entirely by buying a stamina item and then you still have free weapon damage + debuff resist + spirit resist aka some of the best stats in the game
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>>541371854
Valve is just a shit company that doesn't do anything about leavers. In any normal game these faggots would get banned.
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>>541371806
Characters with a lot of shred like Mirage or Seven.
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>>541371867
>free
>costs 3200 souls
>4000 with the 800 souls on extra stamina
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>>541370819
the T3 ult thing on victor can be pretty cool because it makes him much better at ratting, even if you don't have a second life you're still able to spam batteries and run away at the first sign of trouble a lot of the time and then when ult is back up you start being unga

even if its not the best way to play victor, its a lot more interesting then just farting on creeps. now they just need to give his 1 a stun and I can full on larp as leoric
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>>541371474
>Grey Talon
>not hypermobile
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>>541372074
read the patch notes you donut
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>>541371474
retard
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>>541372019
it's "free" weapon damage because it doesn't have a conditional to it, like literally every other t3 gun item
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>>541371474
Gray Talon's MOVEMENT speed scales with spirit
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>>541371474
Vindicta can literally fly and GT has FOUR FUCKING BASE STAMINA and runs fast as fuck
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>Wtf these glass cannons shouldn't be able to move at all so I can instagib them this game is bullshit!!
Multiple items in the game to bridge the gap btw and Vindicta's mobility isn't even good she has 2 stamina and a stiff flight with a long CD
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>>541372487
dont bother they literally gutted these characters to cater to these seekers mass replying, victor as well btw
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Every match today had a leaver either for my benefit or detriment. They need to start increasing the ban penalties for this sort of thing.
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The real problem is that snipers are just not fun. They should never be good because if they're good then only 1 person is having fun instead of the other 11.
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>>541372487
it's not about whether it's good or not, it's about how there are two characters that are very similar in execution
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why is it always like this...............
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>>541372660
this has always been a shit argument, you arent having fun when you get bebop hooked, or mo ulted, or one shot by pocket off leap, it doesnt mean anything
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>>541372660
This, even if they're not specifically OP or even good, they're simply not fun to fight.
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inhouses over?
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Why is a shitty old man so mobile anyway?
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>>541372720
I'm having more fun than with a sniper because at least they need to interact with me to do that instead of pointing at me and clicking on me from across the map.
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>>541372803
true, way more skill and counterplay to mo ulting you than to dodging a vin snipe
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>>541372868
How do you dodge a hit scan bullet lil bro.
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>>541372660
Yeah man Mo zooming around the map warp stone ulting me for the 50th time a game or Abrams phantom striking me into a stun is way more fun. And don't even get me started on Infernus he's SUPER fun to play against whether he's building around dash or M1 it's a barrel full of laughs!
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>>541372667
What is Grey Talons kit? I haven't played either him or Vindicta. Would making on focused on raw damage and one on AoE or support utility be good? However given that their personalities are full of hatred I don't believe a rework towards utility would benefit either.
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>>541372797
fueled by rage
I now wanna see a comic of grey talon at the gym being that weird old man who's at every gym ever.
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>>541372868
I mean...yes? Mo's ult has fuck all range and he's standing still the entire time.
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>>541372667
They're not even close nowadays after all the vindicta nerfs.
GT is a mobile, quick and limber extremely long range burst character that scales overtime.
Vindicta is long range aerial gun character with an execute.

They're not even snipers, vindicta has a heavily crippled sniping tool that will never one shot you and after all the adjustments I'd say Vindicta is finally close to actually being balanced.
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>>541373034
>Mo ult is more skillful than Vindicta ult
Congrats you may have made the most retarded post on /dlg/ ever
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>>541373047
grey talon also has an execute
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>>541371474
Redman character when?
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>>541373113
Clicking heads isn't very skillful at all, it's just aiming. You at least have to position yourself with Mo's ult.
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>>541373163
You could reskin Magician into Redman and it would kinda make sense.
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>>541373047
>Vindicta is long range aerial gun character with an execute.
Grey Talon is long range aerial spirit character with an execute.
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Grey Talon should be reworked into a femboy native American with a big butt and loin cloth
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>>541373206
Mo players really are boosted morons huh
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>>541373047
so there are two very similar (in concept) characters but one of them is worse than the other and therefore useless
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>>541373274
i am a fucking faggot and love femboys with big asses but you are insane for even conjuring that thought
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>>541373163
>>541373256
Actually wait a minute, Doorman has a reality marble.
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>>541373274
They'd have to replace his VA, which is unlikely, unless you really want that femboy to sound like a grizzled old man.
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>>541373387
I'm you but stronger
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>>541372797
He spent his entire life fighting, literally forty fucking years hunting the worst monsters known to mankind after founding a society dedicated to those hunts and since he was the founder those must've been some REALLY fucked up monsters compared to the current shit that the society hunts down, GT must've been an absolute fucking beast back in the day.
If Valve wanted to make up a kino excuse for a happy incident they could play it off as GT remembering the old days and the way he used to move and shoot when he was not retired so he gets quicker and stronger over time as he fights more and more.
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>>541373274
>>541373387
Now I feel compelled to draw that...
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>>541373274
How are you gonna have a 70 year old femboy bro he hit twink death 40 years ago.
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>>541373486
They've swapped voice actors for multiple heroes at this point, don't know how that's "unlikely"
>>541373556
Eternal youth from his spirit animal magic
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>>541373267
Not even close to the same application.
>>541373369
Both being long range doesn't make them the same, you guys should really actually try to play the fucking heroes so you can see how different they actually play.
>one of them is worse than the other and therefore useless
Vindicta has been OP as fuck many many times in the past, GT is absolutely destroying pro and eternus right now.
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>>541373524
do it
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>>541373650
>They've swapped voice actors for multiple heroes at this point
Ah, I didn't know.
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>>541373707
Vindicta has been mostly shit for a long time the only thing that kept her relevant was echo shard stake cancer but once that got nerfed she was revealed to be utter dogshit cause her kit is pretty lackluster
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>>541373802
Yamato used to have a completely different voice actor.
Miku Guinness
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>>541373869
Her kit is lackluster right now BECAUSE she terrorized the fucking game for a long ass time.
Hell she literally just got a ton of buffs, this is an alpha you retards treat it as one.
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i love griefers
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Did neon prime dynamo have voice acting? Or sweet baby inc infernus?
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>>541374000
The game has been out for a year her her reign of terror was around when it went public
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>>541373998
I kinda just assumed it'd be difficult because VA shit usually is but if they haven't had issues before they probably won't now.
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>>541364520
>dis karaktuh ees buroowken
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>>541374083
>Grieferchad still has comparable damage to most of the team
Grim
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>>541374276
Having more damage than the Billy is kinda just embarrassing on the Billy's end.
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>>541373802
Yamato was a special case tho, a fringe case where the entire character used to be something way too disconnected from the current game; she was a weeb alien larping as a samurai.
Yamato used to have a non native speaker so it sounded like what it was; an outsider speaking japanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ULhmBkWjE

This didn't work with the deadlock lore of being the deposed big boss of the yakuza seeking revenge, she needs an actual japanese speaker now.
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>>541374162
VA work is not difficult for Valve.
They've had voice actors for now deleted characters like trapper and fathom.
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>I WANT to have someone plinking me from 3x the range of anyone else in the game
you niggers don't know what you're asking for
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They're gonna be alone and they're gonna feel scared hehehe
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>>541374510
Also forgot this, this old broken japanese was the birth of mikuginnis:

https://youtu.be/S1ULhmBkWjE?si=yHXxXW3WCQgd2RhB&t=916
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>>541333013
Hot Vampire Yuri just like my AO3 stories.
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>>541374465
I think Billy was giving Paradox shit early on. Both shitters.
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56 kills in 23 minutes in my alchemist match

BROOL BROS WE ARE SO BACK
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>>541374637
>>541374510
Miss this voice. The way she shouted her abilities was 100% more fierce and cooler than the current VA. Don't care if she had shitty Japanese or whatever can't understand her anyway.
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whats the worst 6400 item?
cheat death? colossus?
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>>541373734
Very well
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>>541375358
cheat death and its not even close
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>>541375439
>my shitpost inspired some fanart
wow, based king, I kneel
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i didn't know statslock had this cool little feature
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>>541375468
>>541375358
Even if it didn't rape your healing and damage it would still be not that useful.
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Make Talon look like John Redcorn and literally all problems will be solved
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>>541375439
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I was complaining yesterday about going from Seeker to Initiate and how I genuinely don't feel like I'm a bad player so I compared the stats of a friend of mine who is in Alchemist

>Same amount of average deaths
>Same amount of headshot accuracy
>HIGHER average kills
>Pretty much same kill participation
>Same souls per minute
>Lower winrate
>More MVPs
>More last hits
>Better K/D

This literally solidifies it, I am the same and in more cases better in stats but have a lower winrate, I am held down by elo hell. My skill is that of an alchemist or better. Thank you for witnessing my journey on this discovery /dlg/
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>>541375513
My pleasure! I love doodling for the threads I partake in. Feels fun to let loose and just draw something silly.
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>>541372868
>yeah durrr snipers may be bad but durrr WHAT ABOUT mo and krill durrr
Even with your whataboutism, M&K is the most hated hero in the game retard.
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>>541375439
>when twink talon's 2 duration runs out and you see his crack as he falls
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>>541375810
The point is snipers aren't bad and getting hit by a skillshot that isn't even always a confirm kill feels way better than having someone autolock hard CC you
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>>541375439
Mrs. Gay was so lucky...
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>>541375807
You post like a woman, die.
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>>541375810
see
>>541370990
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>>541372797
model wise GT is the grandma from coco, but lorewise he's somewhere between john wick and every greybeard whos somehow still has a huge power level from anime
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>>541375439
Not NEARLY feminine enough
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>>541376020
Old dudes that spend their whole lives doing hard work still stay pretty strong late into their lives.
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>>541376020
I hope they change his model soon so he's not easily mistaken for a dementia addled granny.
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>>541376020
Grey Talon's lore and voicelines hard carry him despite his model being shit
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>>541372797
He was a big dick in his prime and now he's (likely) destroying his grandpa body for revenge
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>>541375807
Do you ever colour these in?
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>>541375439
always love art, even if super fucking gay. when will gen z grow up from their gay phase meme shit, I wonder
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YOU'LL NEVER KILL ME
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>>541348574=
>Blatant homosexual
i mean just look at him
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Which hero is as good Haze?
Where you can own everybody from lane phase to the game end?
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>>541377253
McGinnis
Mo and Krill
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>>541377253
There's like a dozen heroes better than Haze
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>>541377313
>McGinnis
I assume it's gun mcGinnis?
Because I tried playing her with turrets build before, and it falls off like crazy after mid game.

>Mo and Krill
dishonest hero
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>>541376001
I'll take that as a compliment!

>>541376084
I was gonna go a bit more fem, but femboys are a hard balancing act. I tend to lean on having a bit of sharpness to them.

>>541376376
Really depends! I have a lot of work in my hands so I try to give each doodle just enough to stand on its own but leave potential to expand on them.

>>541376452
The new generation is really afraid of posting anything due to backlash culture and "the algorythm" scare. The gen zers I train have this deafeatest mentality which I call "being in your 20s" so I have to tip toe around their sensibilities when mentoring them.
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>>541375805
u need to start picking heros that are more impactful
gun mcginnis, haze, abrams
low elo players find it very harassing if u play very aggressive early and punish early,
if u can snipe their guardian pre-10 minutes and force walker then u can just win
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is holliday better or worse in a big head lane?
obviously easier to proc
but less damage?
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>>541377782
the damage from crackshot isn't reduced by seven/mo's headshot resist
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>guy named DEATH TO ISRAEL
>goes 0-12-0
i am joining the IDF
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I want this game back to pre shop update, this game is fucking terrible rn
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>>541377927
hes a disinfo agent
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>>541377927
>edgy troll faggot feeds
wow what a shock
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>>541377541
wait does that paige have a smile or a stubby nose?
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>retardo billy feeds the fuck out of victor
>but victor didn't build lifesteal so he's just a tank that does nothing

so optimal victor build is what...gun/infuser?
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>>541378976
Nah get berserker and leech.
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>>541378976
>infuser

it's bait on him and absolute garbage for lifesteal
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>>541378976
lifestealer is a must on victor, now more than ever.
I would assume vampiric burst is also good on him since it gives more megazine and life steal.
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>>541378976
if you're going gun, why the fuck wouldn't you get leech?
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I want to kill myself, what the fuck man. I couldn't do shit in lane, as soon as I tried to ground pound on dynamo wave, I just got my health annihilated
24 minute loss and I hated every single second because I could not do shit. Even tried to ult Victor into walker with Dynamo and he shrugged it off and ate the fucking walker
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>>541379445
post your build
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wooow mo and krill walked up and pressed 4
wooow
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What build are you guys using on doorman? Eido's feels really fun and agressive but i think its only worth using if you're playing with a stack. Piggy's is the one i'm using for soloq
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>>541379530
erm they pressed focus lens before hand too
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>>541379537
long range gunman
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>>541379537
I use Piggy's build but after I get rapid recharge and tankbuster I either rush echo shard or buy gun items to even myself out, brings me decent success started out with like a 34% winrate on him now at 57%
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>>541379537
Mine is kind of standard spirit I think but unlike some other people the main active item I grab every single game is phantom strike. I think it's very good on him. Lets you very reliably hit carts on people and it fucks over fliers who normally shit on doorman.
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>>541379537
I get greater expansion for my door after maxing it, I also max it pretty early too
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Essence bomb doesnt stick to people anymore? im fucking late to the sad news...
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ok, here's how we re-work mo n krill. combo is now a skillshot. mo launches himself at someone and combos the first person. combo becomes a mo-missile. HIRE ME YOSHI
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>>541379850
the fucking apes I get matched with played against this strat earlier and managed to go 2-11 because they kept getting carted into the walker
nonstop complaining in voice about how portals need to be removed from the game
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>>541380048
>mo launches himself at someone
that should have been what drifter's teleport was
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fuck this shit man
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>>541380219
Peak driftdoor content.
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mina is no longer my friend
i am now djinnpilled
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>>541380219
Feels good to be a doorCHAD
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do you guys think the game was better or worse when it was 4 lanes
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>seven and haze on team
>absorb all farm on the map
>don't carry
yeah ok
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>>541380657
Why is there a horse on the enemy team?
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How does this look like for a nu-victor build?
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>>541380725
wetter
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>rumors of a gnome hero in the works
PLEASE let this be true
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>>541380725
Far better because you weren't attached at the hip to a potential retard for 10ish minutes of the game. EVERY issue people had with solo lanes is still present with duo lanes. I could stomach 3 lanes if the map was like 20% bigger though.
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remove the jungle
remove the jungle
remove the jungle!!!
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>>541380725
worse, just became who got ganked first
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>>541380759
https://gamebanana.com/mods/610279
honse
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>>541380835
>EVERY issue people had with solo lanes is still present with duo lanes.
I see people freeze waves maybe 1% of the time they used to on solo lanes. Before it was like 80% of games some nerd would just freeze and not let you farm on the solo lane.
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>>541380923
you still get ganked now in 3 lanes lmao
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>Close game
>Two teammates randomly go into the enemy jungle
>They predictably get killed by six enemies
>Lose
Why is this so common?
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>>541381026
every get better at deadlock vid tells you to steal the enemy jungle
what they dont tell you is that going into the enemy jungle when everyone is alive is the worst idea ever
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>>541380983
It still happens when you're unlucky enough to be against duos or you queue into genuinely good players
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>>541380835
Hell no. People never freeze lanes anymore.
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>>541381083
It's fine if you're a character that can do it and survive like Wraith or Mirage or something like that but a bunch of fucking retards do it on Billy when he is like 100% engage with no escape so he just dies to 4 people jumping him when he's alone.
Also you shouldn't invade the jungle alone 30 minutes into the game anyways, that's something you do from like minute 10 to 15.
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what's the trannycord invite?
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they should make a term for jungle that is deadlock themed
lane creeps are troopers
towers are guardians and walkers
jungle should be called alleys or something
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>>541381026
>be retard pussy that never crosses the side of the map
>let team die
>wtf why do I lose
hate playing with people like you on drifter that just afk while any time i try to make shit happen 3 enemies are on my dick
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yeah i'm so fucking sit of rat shit. If the base only has 1 enemy in it structures should take 25%-50% less damage. There's nothing fucking worse than winning a fight and mounting a comeback but surprise the ivy or vyper that's been jerking off in a corner for 10 minutes ends the game in 10 seconds out of nowhere
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>>541381367
>Surely we would have won if there were three of us there!
No, then three of us would have died. How about you stop roleplaying like a retarded rampaging bull and actually play the game for once? This isn't Overwatch.
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>>541381531
Keep your lanes pushed up, retard.
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>>541381531
if you have a creep wave pushed up to your base then it isn't out of nowhere
if you don't then yeah, they get a shit ton of resist and regeneration already
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>>541381531
>lane janny didn't clean it up
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>>541381587
>>541381623
in the time it takes the average teamfight to happen then the rat can easily push 2-3 waves and be in your base. Time to kill in this game is high which leads to long fights. Pushing doesn't take much time at all if you're uncontested. The only actual solution is to have someone not fight and stay on lane watch
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Gun meta is so fucking gay
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>game loads you into a vyper victor lane against billy mina

absolutely incredible, very playable thank you
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>lane janny matches the rat
>there is no longer a rat chewing on your buildings
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>>541381885
All you faggots did was cry when spirit heroes were capable of doing damage
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Infernus is pretty cool. Lost the game and was like 27k while the entire enemy team was at least 28k to 33k (and a fed 52k drifter) and I still did a lot of damage, enough to be feared and kill people.
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>>541381948
just do your best shiv impression and keep that mina low with knives
if she's constantly scrambling for a rake it'll be harder for her to shoot your ass
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>>541382003
fuck off fag, spirit is fun because its varied, bullet is faggotry because it's only M1
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launching whining faggots into the enemy team as doorman is the only joy I get from this game anymore
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I'm 6-23 in the past 2 days
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>>541382389
i forgot you can alt-fire it to send allies forward
record your griefs and post webms
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>every game
>EVERY FUCKING GAME
>0-10-1
>completely ruins the game
>completely wastes my fucking time

why? why can't I just have a fucking game that is somewhat balanced? Why do I ALWAYS get a FUCKING RETARD. that's 10 losses in a row with the same fucking story. Oh look infernus or haze has 5 kills at 5 minutes, so fucking rad.
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>>541382537
absolutely BASED initiatebro
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>>541380725
4 lanes would've been ok if it was 8v8 but so many solo lanes were just genuinely fucking unwinnable

like imagine drifter in a solo lane
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>>541382436
I was on Ritualist 1 and went down to Arcanist 4. These stomp games are just not fun
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>>541383003
>hitler and mussolini in your midlane
damn
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real talk why does no one complains about paige when this bitch is a fucking menace
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>>541383246
She's nauseating to play against but kind of falls off after early game
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>>541383246
we all have the big ass big titty paige cheat enabled lil bro
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>>541383246
Any cooldown reduction on her shield needs to be moved to her T3. Feels aids getting this shit spammed.
Don't really care about anything else on her kit, her ult is funny.
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>>541371854
unbelievable

another fucking drifter joins the match, dies a little, remains afk for 10 fucking minutes and we lose. worst of all is that Mina was an absolute beginner as well. me and warden were able to take most of the defenses by ourselves by there is no way to win a fucking 2 v 5

this matchmaking is so fucking trash, holly shit.
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>>541356158
>They added yet another unbalancable hero that will alternate between broken and dogshit
The balancing in this game will never be good, just like how spirit and gun will never be balanced, it will always be one or the other.
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>>541383583
mayhaps you need a duo to carry you out of initiate
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>>541383583
funny because my last game there was a server admin drifter that was fed by a geist and mcginnis
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>>541382436
I don't know what the fuck the deal is, I'm phantom

>>541382537
and this is every game this week
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yeah im thinking it's time to hold m1
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You guys ever have a sick play that makes the enemy player leave?
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>>541380725
People hate this trvke, but it's worse.
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I'm 100 games in and still feel like I'm kind of lost when it comes to itemizing my heroes and understanding power spikes and utilizing the map for farm. Should I be better by now? I'm so worried I'm not good enough.
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>>541385183
if you just watch people play you'll improve faster
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>>541385183
entire playerbase is full of shitters do not ever worry you're not good enough
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>>541384967
It's honestly so much easier. I was in Lash game earlier and I have to hit my combo to do damage and then they might just dodge it with an ability or get away after the combo, and I'm vulnerable after it. Compare it with Haze or Drifter where I can just kinda run at them holding M1 and there's no single burst or CC to dodge.
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>>541385183
Not really. Itemization and power spikes are the hardest part of the game cause it relies on so much variability
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>>541377541
kawaii
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>>541384967
I'm starting to get smarter enemies that buy metal skin to counter me.
What should I do?
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>>541385562
if you're trying to 1v11 you should be buying shit like curse and e-shift
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>>541380725
It was better in the sense that being forced with a potential retard that will decide your entire game for the next 20 minutes feels like dogshit, but otherwise 3 lanes is better.
They NEED to make laning less reliant on your other retard, ALL THE STRATEGIES AND LITTLE THINGS YOU CAN DO TO BUILD A LEAD EVEN WITHOUT FIGHTING ARE MOSTLY RELIANT ON YOUR LANE PARTNER.
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You'd think Vindicta would sound more like a vengeful ghost that's perpetually seething at all times and not a cutesy girl but it is what it is I suppose
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>>541380219
i can't stand laning as drifter, it's so fucking miserable
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haze is so fucking cringe remove this hero from the game
>3 second CC
>ability that lets her be invisible and zoom around the map
>loool i shoot you i do more damage!!! passive
>press 4 to win any 1v1 ult
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>>541383583
>>541383776
>>541383625
it happened again.
I am sorry but I will abstin froim playing deadlock on weekends.
Only yamato knew what they were doing, infernus paige, mina and abrams were ltierally new. haze was beyond good and was even cancelling hjer ult with items, which personally i think it is a beyond annoying thing to be able to do.
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new thread doko
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>>541386504
>press 4 to win any 1v1 ult
she wins almost any encounter when she gets stoppable.
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why is drifters shooting animation so dumb
i shoot from my hands xD
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>>541386504
>>press 4 to win any 1v1 ult
>mirage tornado
>stand next to her and shoot her in the head
>win trade every time
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>>541386996
he's a mobo
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>>541385562
shoot someone else
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>>541387046
he's a motherboard?
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you should not be allowed to pause in the first 3 minutes of the game
every single match some nigger pauses in the first 30 fucking seconds
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>>541386123
i suggest taking the first two talents in 1 ASAP, it's good to be able to secure creeps at range since it counts as light melee
also getting the first talent in 2 next because the DoT is pretty nice early
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>>541387390
they can tell if you're at the computer or not
being AFK at the start of the game should flag your account, tell you to cut it out, and then throw you into low priority
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>>541387390
They should remove pauses. If you can't play for 30 minutes uninterrupted don't queue you subhuman animals.
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>>541387390
they should really give like a 15 second period for lane swappage though
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I thought it would be better to relax after a 5 defeat streak as a carry, turns out I still get the 1-10 midlaner and a team that is 50k souls behind at the 25 minute mark.
0-2 as a support, it's 5 am, have not won a game in 5 hours
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>>541385301
>he doesnt play spirit drifter
ngmi!
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What's a character for new players to play after the patch?
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>>541388118
dynamo
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>>541386504
What I hate about her is fury trance. That item makes her so bullshit
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>>541388118
victor
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>>541386842
you're brazilian? me too, we should duo
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i really dont know how to put together a build and im throwing games because i just die over and over and over but then one game ill go like 15/1/12 wtf
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>>541388118
kelvin, abrams, mcgaynis
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>all the loses on inhouse + ranked makes it 11 loses in a row
I am tired boss. I cannot win at this game, gabe doesn't want me out of Initiate.
>>541388235
better not.
What is going to happen is that they will see your high rank and add 4 morons on the team to compensate
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>>541388152
eh? dynamo is all about knowing what every other characters stuns are so you can dodge em with teleport or use black hole when you know their stuns are used up

surely there's someone better
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>>541388281
Abrams sucks, McGinnis is support and kelvin doesn't look fun at all
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>tired of losing to Victor
>decide to become the change I want to see in the world
>start playing Infernus
>max afterburn, then napalm
>napalm now 33% antiheal, massive movement slowing and damage amp, afterburn debuffs 25% of all spirit damage
>can light anyone on fire in 1 second flat
>lategame I double down with spirit rend and crippling headshot
>even with all the jumpstart purges a Victor way more fed than I simply cannot heal through the damage
feelsgoodman
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so scared of being bad
it really affects how i see myself as a person
this is all i have and if im bad then im lost and ruined
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>>541388452
>Abrams sucks
wrong
>McGinnis is support
her gun has naturally good stats, you can build for it or build hybrid no problem
but really you can play anyone as a beginner, i would only advise against playing wombo combo spirit shit (so holliday, paradox, calico, viscous, shiv, pocket) or the niggas with weird kits (mirage and vyper)
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I've yet to play with Mina player that does decent since the nerf to her. Her whole gimmick was to obliterate objectives but now she just sucks ass. I'm about to start dodging if I get a Mina on my team.
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>>541388597
no one losing to victor after the hotfix lil bro
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>>541388924
my shitters are losing because they don't build antiheal and my usual heroes suck at applying significant antiheal
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Did they get rid of the required 3 "new" characters to q
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>>541389057
no, probably will happen later this month.
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>>541380865
I want this so fucking bad. Especially after this week with all the BROOL brained AND afk farmers I have had.
>Seven and Paige on yellow wins lane in 4 mins
>Enemy Kelvin spawns and goes to my lane now
>Seven thinks to himself
>PAIGE YOU STAY HERE IM GOING TO GO JUNGLE FOR THE NEXT 20 MINS!!
>My lane gets fucking rolled
>No one rotates
>I just leave and let them take our walker
Nigger wasnt even fed, Paige was. He was at our wealth all fucking game
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>>541342089
wraith cheats rather than leaving things to chance, that's why she always has an ace up her sleeve.
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>>541380865
Jungle should be roaming enemies that are challenging to kill
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>>541389027
i just buy focus lens
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>>541381578
I average 11 deaths a game, you WILL follow me in and clean up or lose.
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i am now up to archon 4
i WILL get to phantom/eternus so i can int retard streamer's games
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>>541383246
Nobody notices shields, not even her own teammates. She's pretty good though IMO even if her other spells aren't as flashy she is great at controlling space
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>feed like a retard
>queue another game
>feed like trash garbage
>keep playing
i just want to be good enough so that when i play with my group that i can win and carry and im so fucking trash i just want to disappear and stop talking to everyone and fucking die
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>>541391214
Work on your self esteem first, that's how you'll win games.
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>>541391214
t. pocket
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>>541391279
if I lose again I am going to kill myself
Vyper main btw
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I put on my cutest skirt when playing Mina
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>>541391464
hm
gay
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>>541391464
mokrill player hands typed this post
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>>541391617
not enough fatfinger typos in it though
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How it feels to see some dumbass nigga all in you while you got your ult up as Geist
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>>541391883
>getting chased
>run behind a veil
>wait
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>Mina on my team: 0-10
>Mina on the enemy team fed 9 kills within 10 mins
Every time
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>>541391883
>mfw see my teammate dive into low hp geist only to het ulted and die instantly
no matter what mmr this never stopped happening
how hard can it be the check her CD
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>>541391883
>CAW
heh, nothin personnel kid
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>>541392228
damn this post is dogshit i'm too tired to be typing
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What happen to Seven? I use to see him in a lot of my games but he virtually disappeared from my lobbies.
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>>541392364
Power surge got a 10% nerf so now patch nooters are pretending like he's not still a very strong pick
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>>541392364
As ive been escaping lower ranks (about to hit archon) wraith has taken his place.
I think I would rather fight sevens though.
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>>541392364
Gun ivy is just a better seven
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Did Vindickdork get buffed? I keep seeing her get fed in lane in my games
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>watch a streamer
>complaining about how the players on his team are shit
>look at his account
>he's smurfing
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>>541392754
...her?
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every. fucking. game. there's no enjoyment to be had in this. Do I just uninstall? Is there really no way to be free of this?
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>>541392754
Veinydickta got some microchanges.
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>>541356439
>>541356348
i hope a witch curses the devs with the most itchy of asses. just holy shit, you do more damage to yourself then the enemy. It's so fucking stupid. i legit hate icefrog so fucking much.
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>play hyper aggressive
>enemy lane is around 30% hp
>my lane partner is a passive trooper cuck
holy fuck man do people really just shoot troopers for the first 10 minutes of the game and think it's fun???
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just rework victor and turn him into a 1:1 copy of skeleton king who gives a fuck anymore
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>>541391302
pocket main here can confirm
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>>541392364
>>541392690
Him and ivy got nerfed
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i don't know what the fuck changed this patch, but movement feels fucking weird and slow now
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>>541393406
This and unironically.
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>bebop and seven ulting freely
>finally just buy knockdown since team won't focus them or just walk away
>the all chat tilt starts pouring in
fuck you cunts
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>>541393334
Well, if you get the enemy to 30% hp it's often better to leave them at that while occasionally harassing them to keep it at that level; You get way more space to farm and deny more easily, don't even bother with shooting the guardian too much.
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Gun victor is okay
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https://streamable.com/zt1195
FEED ME NIGGAS
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new bread?
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>>541393406
i wonder if they could get away with calling him Skeleton King since its not in the same genre/based off of a Blizzard game mod.
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>>541394335
did turning him into wraith king really have something to do with blizzard? I thought it was just because china forced them to make him not a fucking skeleton anymore
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I'm quitting until full release and joining the aim community
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>>541393927
damn that music is gay
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>people are starting to buy stuff like Knockdown, Disarming Hex and so on
Time to de-rank back down to Initiate. Teamfights resolve way too fucking fast in this game to wait out the debuffs and I don't wanna fucking buy Debuff Remover as a Gun character since unless my build is like 11 offensive items and like 1 SOFT-defensive item it feels like I can't fucking kill anyone before they escape or get helped by one of their fucking teammates.
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so why's the doorman even participating in the ritual anyway? decided he didn't give enough of a shit about larping as a human to eat and found something else to do over his lunch break or what?
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>>541394960
He likes to watch.
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>>541394989
i hope my atrocious laning is worth watching then
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>>541394478
yeah it was very likely the direct result of a court case brought by blizz that was settled before trial
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>>541394960
He's a bored psychopathic demon. He gets to kill people for fun.
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the sinclair bnuuy damage amp is actually a damage reduction because my teammates cannot fucking aim
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>>541394868
nuh uh
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>>541394895
just buy curse and invis so they cant cast anything on you
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>>541395906
kek
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is spirit vyper real
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>ugliest slavic nigger accent possible
>"WE END GAISE"
>people listen to him
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>>541396316
yass queen
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>>541396316
no
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Who are your candidates for the most annoying and obnoxious heroes to make your opponent's day miserable?
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>>541396623
holliday 150%, all other answers are incorrect
honorable mention to doorman
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>>541396497
>All of the enemies are up
>Everyone dies
>Lose game
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I cannot fucking stand playing Mo and Krill holy shit
This fat nigger takes up half of my screen
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>>541396623
Grey talon drone build
Door man with refresher
Mo and krilliam
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>>541396623
I can never lose on Mo and Krill as long as I have a teammate running with me.
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>>541396623
warden ult build (full mystic with refresher and lightning scroll)
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>>541396623
Doorman with phantom strike and knockdown.
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>>541397195
>mystic
fuck my ass i meant spirit
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IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD
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IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE THREAD
>>541398541
>>541398541
>>541398541
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>>541360126
attentionwhoring



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