Lusty Gargoyle Maid Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-02-2025-update.84332/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>541333013
>stomping the game as drifter>12-3 with a huge lead>team starts doing nothing while the enemy is active>try to run urn to force a fight>forced to drop it but survive and kill people>team still does nothing>lose our walkers despite the team just farming all gamehate these games
>first post is some nigger complaining about his teami curse you with 500 russians
>>541398623Two of my losses today were to fed Drifters. How the fuck this hero can run a game, I don't know. I keep telling my teammates to uphold a buddy system and to not get caught alone, but they never listen.
Pawgie's soggy loggies plooping into the bowl... oh how I deign to devour it!
affliction
>>541398908>daddy issuesYeah he'd definitely be a frogposter
I think calico should be a ranged hero
I think Calico should be deleted
>>541398908*solo afflictions you**5 of his teammates show up from the shadows*
>>541399094I like the cat though
>Calico Page laneENOUGH ALREADY IM SICK OF THIS TWO BITCHES
>I let Ivy get close for 1 whole second>-216 health>I am on Seven, with 25% crit resistancegenuinely how. I don't feel like I do this much damage when I play her
>>541376162https://youtu.be/gezNJPUtFYM?t=371
>>541399835Mina and Paige lane is even more obnoxious
Paradox handjobs
I heard shit that didn't need nerfs and retouching got retouched and nerfed.What are some of the main changes I should be aware of? And please for the love of GOD tell me they've nerfed mo or kelvin.
>>541399835just laned against billy/paige as yamatoactually wanted to blow my brains out. Doing no damage because of shield and then a single paige bullets hits me for 55
So this matchmaking fix has really uh...really been something, huh?
i like when a enemy team starts bitching in all chat when you're stomping, then I download the replay and watch them bitch at each other about whose fault it is kek
>>541398829Once he gets a lead he gets pretty crazy, you cant get away from him with the stalker mark + passive movespeed bonus. He has a lot of great items he can build versus everyone too so you cant even itemize against his damage since it's usually hybrid.
>>541400720You sure youre not just playing badly?
>>541400837I genuinely don't know how to counter him, in one game I built disarming hex but I couldn't even fucking see him in the first place. In fact he kind of ignored me and his team would just 5v1 me whenever he ulted. His ult might be the single most broken aspect of his kit, no wonder they were using Refresher on him in the DNS.
>>541400720This matchmaking still thinks putting haze, wraith, lash, and dynamo on the same team is the perfect idea.
Is there any way to make Haze work if you're not part of the "aiming community"?
I'm starting to believe the /pol/ schizo. The brown characters never get any nerfs what so ever
>>541401248What? This is just untrue. Infernus was nerfed a month ago. Calico was just buffed today after having been nerfed a considerable amount before. Wraith also has a long history of nerfs, going as far as having her ult reworked into an inferior version.
>>541401234Do you people unironically believe that everyone with decent aim grind away at aimlabs? Because the FPS genre sort of predates that shit by a few decades
>>541401424No. I think they all use aimbots.
>>541400997maybe ethereal shift? he kind of sucks if he wastes his first jump without accomplishing anything he does enough damage with mark/rend that disarming seems bad i'd rather go silence from curse/focus lens/or the spirit sap upgradepossibly warp stone too so you can disengage or chase him
>>541398541My matches are so shit I'm starting to think low prio might be better
Guys... Victor is still good, right...?
>>541401449Damn you're even stupider than I thought.
>>541400959I don't think I'm playing significantly worse than I normally do
>it’s another episode of being in NA, but some russian nigger vpns to your region to feed his ass off (4/8 MINA) and sperg out in vcsubhuman race genuinely
It's interesting that Drifter's ult is considered valuable enough in COORDINATED PLAY to justify buying refresher on him, should tell you how strong it is in pubs
I HATE GUN PATCHI HATE GUN PATCHFUCK THE AIM TRANNIES
Ain't no way you niggers are playing this unholy mess on the weekends
>>541401932>should tell you how strong it is in pubsnot really. people don't use their mic in pubs.
>>541402115you know there's dozens of mobas that don't require fine mechanical skill to play, right? try them instead of beggint he devs to ruin this one
>>541401932I've been saying this from the start, the ult is fucking retarded tier broken.
Okay question. Why don't people play defensive when the enemy has rejuv? I keep seeing people lose games because one jackass decided to run off to the other side of the map to chase one guy, only to get jumped by the whole team.
>>541401932support Drifter with refresher is unironically the only strategy, along with abusing pre-nerf Mina, that Hydranation could figure out to defeat The Baroness Hotel. Depriving the entire enemy team of vision for a whole 16 seconds is absurdly busted; basically a guaranteed teamfight win, and devs probably didn't take Refresher into account when designing it.
>>541402296protip press the push to talk key and say things you want your team to do and the odds they do it dramatically shoots up
>>541402115i don't think the recent buffs put us into "gun patch".they just realized it was stupid for like 5 people every game to be playing a spirit build, they even put the 5% spirit res back on spirit armor.
>Play mina>Lose all my games to subhuman retardsHow the fuck do I keep getting Sevens and Infernus that can't deal fucking damage and just repeatedly die like niggers in a ghetto shoot-out?
>>541402460hey you racist retard, if you don't want to deal with randoms why are you soloqueuing?
>>541402387refresher should just be removed, it does nothing good by existing
>finally get to play Billy after 5 games>do fucking nothing as our 16/0 Doorman proceeds to assrape the whole enemy team and win in 30 minutesokay I guess
>>541402234>Mechanical skill>press M1lmao
>>541403312If it's so simple then why are you struggling?
>>541403374gun cucks are getting uppity again, people dont play gun because its boring as shit
>>541403374Are you retarded or just an ESL? I hate it because its shit, boring and unfun. Tranny shit
>>541403312more than spirit cucks throwing giant AOE nukes from 40+ meters away or standing near you.
>>541403312True spamming forgiving hitbox nukes with Talon and pressing 4 with Mo is far harder
I am beginning to understand now. Finally got to green rank 2 after the big win streak. Still have to hard carry most games.
Top 200 Wardens ama
So when are they gutting Kevin, Infernus, Lash, Mo and Dynamo?
>>541404025>Oracle 1>W*rden shitterlmao, you'd be Ritualist on something like Pocket or Yamato
Hi
>>541404032at this point never, if kelvin and mo didnt get their legs broken on this patch its never gonna happen, they just want low skill retard proof characters to dominate their game
>>541404025What hero is that second from the left
>>541404103Mad cause bad. Warden is goated.
>>541403681>Character issues somehow equate to meta issueMerely pretending to be retarded too I bet
>>541403686>Still have to hard carry most games.The game is so dead if it's relying on hard carry too much.No game can sustain itself when 11 people are unhappy and only 1 person is barely enjoying the game.
>>541404220Yamyam
>>541404387Why does her portrait look different.
>>541404454https://gamebanana.com/mods/599927
>>541404454hes on the secret client
>>541404483Cool. I look forward to the battlepasses and hats once Valve gets around to it.
>>541404025thoughts on black people?
>>541404579https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ
>>541401932I genuinely think they're going to rework his ult, it's so stupidly strong. It doesn't feel strong when you're using it, but when you're playing something like Doorman where his ult just entirely removes your from the fight for its duration it feels insane. Especially in competitive play like you mentioned.
The black woman of Valve unοriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>541403501I play gun, it's fun
>>541405285sure, and theres people that have fun on mo, anythings possible when youre brown
Doorman is broken. That is all.
>>541405434Why are you seething about shooter aspects in a game where every character is a shooter?
>>541405580why are you seething that I called you brown, did that offend you rajesh
I refuse to play him now, but Victor is completely fucking dead after the latest patch, right?If the enemy buys spirit resilience, then they literally take less damage from aura of suffering than victor does now, meaning if they shoot him at the same time then they will win that fight EVERY SINGLE TIMEWhat the actual fuck were Valve thinking? They gave him a "Do not ever press this ability" button, he is a character with 3/4 abilities, and the 3 that he has aren't even good: ultimate takes too long to activate and has such a small AoE that enemies need to be LITERALLY RETARDED to get hit by ithis 2 heals you.....at the cost of self-damage, and this heal is only *ok*, it takes too much spirit investement to not be mediocre as fuckhis 1 does OK damage with spirit investment, but you have to damage yourself to even make it available for use, meaning you are spending HP and cooldowns to even make one of your abilities ABLE TO BE USED AT ALLThe character might as well be removed at this point, they trashed him so fucking hard that picking him is trolling your own team
>>541404945yea bro they'll rework the ult right after they rework shiv and mo ult
Is scourge even good
>team is dead fucking silent>condecendingly shotcall obvious things that nobody is doing>guy speaks for the first time in 19 minutes>"i'm muting you"oh fuck please dont nooo we cant have the noncommunicational retard becoming more noncommunicational this will affect the teams dynamic greatly
>>541402978Completely agree. Who enjoys being gayed by two dynamo ults in a row. It only exists to make cancerous spells even more cancerous
>>541400720I won a game, and then I lost againI have no idea what I've done to anger the matchmaking gods soI'm going to play until I win two in a row
>new patch>bomb Bebop still sucks>Split Shot still isn't fixed to actually work on Bebop for gun builds>mfw
>seven doesn’t have any voice lines about eating nineValve?
>Infernus can't use a real gun because stereotype wtf? This is worse than China censorship
>>541406621but the finger guns are the best part of his design
>>541406454Hyacine would never type that!
>want to play gun builds that aren't vyper because I want to shoot fast>all the other character gun builds that arent drifter need you to hit headshots 100% of the timewhyyy
Midboss needs to be hard nerfed. Just one rejuv and some buffs to the whole team. The urn is a nice objective, but I think often people are too lazy to deliver it. You have to walk all the way across the map at least once.What do you guys think about introducing mega-creeps once the shrines are destroyed? To make up for the weaker midboss, destroying both shrines should be more rewarding.
>Hard buff weapons for no reason>Also hard buff spirit resilience>While nerfing like 5 spirit items>While hard nerfing VictorAnother amazing balancing patch by icefraud the hack with 20 years of experience
Ever since the "matchmaking updates to include more considerations for a balanced roster beyond only frontliners", I've lost almost every single game I've played and the enemy almost always had an Infernus and Grey Talon. I dropped out of Ritualist to Alchemist. Good update, I'm enjoying.
>>541405840i think it sucks
>>541407519Damn, I've won almost every single game since the update.
>>541407398its ok I head M1 was skillful and fun :)
>>541407398I think gun builds were fine I dunno why it needed the buff.
>>541407602What's your secret? Who are you playing? It doesn't matter in my case because half the games had leavers and the other had irredeemable feeders.
>Chat discusses whenever twinkettes exist or Lash is just making shit upKino, I hope there is a more casual mode that doubles as chat room
>>541407712Only heroes I've played so far since the update have been Mirage, Doorman, and Infernus.
>>541407714Kinda hate how the game being as hardcore as it is means people almost never do any casual chatting because they're too focused on trying to win and either staying silent or making calls only. I miss the chat room vibe from tf2.
>>541407871Yeah I think its about time to hop back, maybe when Halloween comes around
>>541407936TF2 is just too boring for me now, especially after experiencing Deadlock, I wouldn't be able to go back to it.
>>541407192>What do you guys think about introducing mega-creeps once the shrines are destroyed? To make up for the weaker midboss, destroying both shrines should be more rewarding.While it would be nice to have a reward other than the zipline being faster, i feel like mega creeps would contribute heavily towards making games feel snowbally. It already feels somewhat viable to rat the shrines and due to how small the map is it's very suffocating to play from behind when you no longer have walkers, since the enemy team is easily able to rotate to 6v1 your shit if you attempt to fight back their splitpushing.I'm hoping for jungle buffs myself, to be honest
>>541407871i want proximity chat so bad.>>541407936play tf2classic, it's on steam october 13th.
>>541407871A lash killed a paradox chasing me when i had 20 hp remaining and said "Sorry was that lady bothering you" Mighty keks
>>541407871but don’t you like having a rank attached to your name so you can have your ego agitated just enough to keep you logging in and playing?
>>541408162I have a job so the rank doesn't really mean anything to me.
>>541407871Thats why Valve lets us pause
>>541407779Maybe I should pick up Infernus then. Seems like he's in every game and he always owns.
hey so how do i play the doorman?
>>541407871don't worry little furry the casual mod will allow you to chat to your little heart content. Hell they could also add dances and a sandvich so you can play as the hoovie :)
>>541408301that's one of them there False dichotomies aint it?
>>541408267I mean I actually just recently picked him up just to try him out to see if he was really as easy and good as he looks on paper and he is, I've won every game with him with way less effort than I usually have to use to win.
Mina players the type of niggas to participate in Locktober
>>541408791What's that?
Drifterchads, what build are you rocking? I'm finding a lot of success in shitlow with something heavily gun focused. Usually going headshot booster > backstabber > active reload > fortitude, then either burst focused items so i can brool right away (cold burst, spirit siphon, headhunter, burst fire) or a 6.4ker if it's gonna be a long one (glass cannon, most of the time) followed by fire rate, vampiric burst > survival stuff. Sometimes followed by lucky shot but i usually go curse or artic blast to make sure i can kill the fucking mina on the other team. It feels great.
>>541408791am i not supposed to play deadlock during october or something
What is the command to show the hitboxes of moves? I can only find the command to show player hurtboxes.
Mina is going to have like a 43% WR this patch lol
>>541408036I think it's snowbally largely in part because getting midboss and winning the game are almost synonymous.
>>541409617And she'll still be OP.
>>541409014I'm still working on trying to find them. Here's two commands I use frequently, and which I used to post stuff here.>cl_ent_hitbox *Shows hitboxes of NPC's and Players. You can replace the "*" with anything you want tracked. The * is just a wildcard so you can do citadel_* or ability_*>cl_bullet_travel_debug_trace 1Shows the hitbox for bullets and some abilities which use the "bullet" flag
>>541408885I think its something like "I lock my dick in a cage for all october "
So when are they nerfing kelvin, lash, mo and drifter?
How do I turn on this setting to see the healthbar of objectives when they're being attacked?
>>541411516so when are they nerfing abrams, bebop, billy, calico, doorman, drifter, dynamo, grey talon, haze, holliday, infernus, ivy, kelvin, geist, lash, mina, mirage, mo, paige, pocket, seven, shiv, sinclair, victor, vindicta, viscous, vyper, warden, wraith, and yamato?
>>541411628cope every single character that I mentioned is busted and aids to play against
>>541407192They definitely need to add some kind of fortification. Too easy to just tunnel the patrons once you've cracked the base and there's nothing the defenders can do about it.
>>541408283>lock someone in the cuck shed>wait for him to (fail to) exit>cart>bell>deadIt's that simple.
Opinions on this https://gamebanana.com/mods/623571?I think she looks less gremlin and more goth/whore with the mod.
what went so wrong with deadlock balancing?
>>541411750you have not played drifter if you think he is overpowered, you just suck
>>541412027It's inherently an unbalanceable game and has never ever been balanced. The fact that there's only one hero with a higher than 60% winrate is surprising.
>>541411981>old ivyhideous>cat ivydisgusting>new ivyperfection
>>541412027Turned out your teammate is the one dragging you down all the time.So when Paige is there to help cover those retarded ass, the team is now slightly better than the enemy's team, and you can finally win games.
>big fight on green>infernus on my team is farming camps instead of pushing the unattended yellow>happens two matches in a rowuseless fuckers, don't they know lane troopers are worth more?
>>541407714>star the game>enemy Seven pauses>"you think Haze glows in the dark when she jumps you in your dreams?">everybody laughsSometimes you get fun shit
>>541412258But if he pushes the wave then someone might come and fight him and that's scary :(
I like how there's no fog of war beyond the veils so you can just see fuckers looking for ganks on the rooftops
>>541408085tf2c is awful and nothing about it is classic now
>>541412258>don't they know lane troopers are worth more?I don't think they know at all.Fuckers rather farm jungles than go into the lane.
>>541412487>tf2c is awfulone word - VIP
>>541412626all /dlg/ does is blame teammates, they would never vibe with the civilian
>>541408085Why would valve cannibalize their new game with their old game
>>541412668What are you, some sort of fucking alien that thinks their teammates are never retarded?
>>541412668to be absolutely fair when your team manages to have this scoreline at 7 minutes and all abandon it's a bit hard not to point the finger
>I'm.... I'm JOOOOOOOOOONGLING
>>541412818Spoiler alert: he is the retard and doesn't realise
Met new hires at work and there was some Serbian chick named Mina I didn't even know that was a real name
>>541413119burger na education
>>541407871>Kinda hate how the game being as hardcore as it is means people almost never do any casual chattingWeirdly enough I see casual chat and dumb memes in every single Deadlock match I play, it's jarring after thousands of hours of Dota where most people are completely silent.You can't even blame it on slavs because it's EU East in both games, they're majority Russians in both, yet Deadlock feels more lively despite being harder to type in.
>>541413119Read some books, nigger.
>>541412462you look at people manually for ganks?i use the minimap or just listen for some retard farming neutrals like i wouldn't find out.
Abrams type of nigga to open bag of chips with scissors
Mid needs a revamp pronto, the midboss arena is shit and too tedious to chase in and the boxes serve no purpose. Say anything you want about the dome before but it made for great teamfights.
IVY JUST WON ANOTHER SCRIM BETWEEN TIER TWO TEAMS NERF THIS CUNT ALREADY
>>541413465>the midboss ... is shitftfymidboss and urn need a redesign, they're both shit side-objectives
>>541413558Gun Ivy should never be viable when that's Vyper's niche.
>>541413648what I don't understand is them nerfing fucking kudzu/air drop for the millionth time
>>541412818no i just think getting worked up over losses does nobody any favors, and i have empathy for my fellow teammates when they have a bad time and make mistakes, and as a result i am quite resistant to tilting.>>541413031are you... are you trying to imply that no noob gets mad at losing? and that all competitive players get mad at losing? that's ridiculous. and by trying to assert this, you are absolving yourself of the responsibility you have when you get mad at losing. mental toughness is a skill one must work on, no one is born with it.
>player says they're playing [hero] for the first time>buys a bunch of stupid shit and throws I understand if you're new to the hero, but you're not new to the game. You've definitely played with and against [hero] multiple times, how can you be so fucking stupid and not know what items to buy on them?????????
>>541413119It's a Sinosphere name, why would a slav have it?
>>541413812In their defense the build browser does a shit job of not promoting bad builds
>>541413812Why do we still blame the players for this when this is Valve's fault? They should have never combined queues or even added ranks to a "playtest"
>bro just have empathy for the guy going 0-8 in lane HARD inting your entire game>he could totally just stop walking into the enemy's side of lane but he won't haha!!>you should empathise with griefersthis is why people get banned for chatting instead of ruining games btw. good job being part of the shift in priorities. FAGGOT.
In Arcanist now bros
>>541413838weebs
>ivy's gun damage and growth gutted>ivy's spirit damage gutted>she's now a permanent heal/debuff botvalve, fuck offif you're going that way at least rework her 2 into a passive>always tether to nearest heroes>all healing and firerate buffs are replicated>T1 is melee damage>T2 is +2 tether>T3 gives you stackable slow/immobilize on gun
>>541413957how do i build mina
>>541413898the issue with a casual/ranked split is that once you've established that, you've set people against one another in attitude. there's like hardline casual people that get boosted and then more competitive types. once you segregate them you can't go back. the casuals feel reassured that "it's just a game bro" and don't care about ruining games. whereas the competitive types want people to actually try. when you give people a choice, it at least allows culture and etiquette to develop in an unranked and ranked setting. when there was no choice to begin with, nobody could say any different. but now that you've merged the two into a regular queue, it doesn't matter that you have a rank attached, you're now playing with people who don't care about the etiquette and commitment. so it's a point of frustration to be forced to play with those types of players. did you know rainbow six siege literally had to change their 'casual' queue to 'unranked' because it was driving a mentality that it was okay to grief? people are that malleable.
>>541414264>rainbow six siege literally had to change their 'casual' queue to 'unranked'iirc unranked has the same pick/ban stuff that doesn't exactly scream casual to an average player
>>541414197reminder that valve are so easily manipulated into nerfs like this that all it takes is for ivy to explore a new playstyle, win a couple games on some stream, have some retard like metro cry about it and play it up for content by putting out fake outrage to 'excite' his audience. and then bam she's just nerfed that week guaranteed. I hate streaming niggers so much they're all fucking trash at the game and constantly crying about balance and what's disgusting is they're listened to more over the guy who actually lays out the 'why' in a forum post.
>>541414254This is my build
>>541414254>>541414425
>>541414371to be fair, unranked in dota has pick ban too. it's more of a standard in these types of games now than anything.
>>541413905no matter how you spin it, you are getting mad at video games. all i'm doing is reminding you that tantrums are optional. feeling bad is optional. healthy, coherent, and mature responses to losing at a video game are a thing you can work on. and this will make you less agitated, less tilted, and less curmudgeonly.
why are there gun builds for doorman?
>>541414719Big gun-projectile hitbox for some reason
>>541414719Because now its viable more than ever, esp late game.
>>541414719Gun builds are for brainlets that want to enjoy the characters voice lines and aesthetics but not their kit because it's too complicated
>>541414719Because it's funny to like 2 shot people late game. It's just a meme build.
>>541414664>you are getting mad at video gamesit's a 40 minute "video game" social gathering where one retard is being a dick, why am I punished for this guy's ineptitude and not him?
>>541414742
>>541414881Boy, if only holiday had that.
>enemy shiv rotates to my lane>friendly kelvin rotates to my lane>my lane partner and kelvin are fighting shiv>shiv is killing my lane partner, kelvin doesn't dome>lane partner dies, kelvin is dying>kelvin finally domes once he reaches low hp only to immediate die to shiv's executeidk why I play this game.
>>541414881What the actual fuck
>>541414425>>541414469qsr still?
>>541415024it's not weird, the projectile is slow as shit as the trade-off.
>>541415014It's the weekend, all the retarded burger flipping wagecucks are on.
>>541414197I think my favourite bit is how they pancaked her AOE so it doesn't apply damage vertically and didn't apply this to anyone else. how they gave ivy an exclusive 50% objective damage reduction on her kudzu and left everyone else without this rulke for nearly a year. how they raped the scaling by like 40% already. and they're still finding excuses to pick apart 5 dps here 5 dps there while building extra stam/enchanter's barrier is enough to completely rape her damage. gee golly I can't wait to build 30k of spirit items to get good damage and watch as it gets countered by a 3k resistance item!!
>>541413957That profile pic is a Hitler painting
>>541415024
>>541415148Damn Hitler really did suck with perspective
>>541411981I like it.
>>541415191Sloppy job Mossad
>>541415149now consider all of these niggers run split shot
>Everyone goes>I HATE LASH, FUCK THIS GUY>but Valve doesn't care>Valve fears no man>...>only statues
>>541415281>looks like a plastic model under interior lightingnow post a portrait
I kind of messed up here. I could've used PB more often. Noticing the AoE doesn't extend up much. I wanted to die to try out new ultimate passive.
>>541413782Thing is I dont care about mistakes I care about people refusing to play the game. They play for KDA as we slowly lose. That's not a mistake they're just pussies or intentionally waiting for the game to end instead of taking risks and playing to win. The haze that never joins any fights to flame his team when he has pretty numbers at the end but he only got worthless kills after they get urn/boss/walkers all gameFeeding in lane is whatever, taking bad fights is whatever.
>>541414762Someone having a bad match =/= Deliberate griefingAnd losing is not a punishment. The whole idea is that you aren't taking losses as an affront, you're not sulking because you lost, and you don't assign such emotion to losing. You just roll with what you get and go again.>>541415639If they were "playing for KDA" wouldn't they stop going for risky fights and play passive?
the fact that the dash portion of calicos slash doesn't deal damage feels so wrong...
Early points in ultimate give it a nice kick. Still super easy to avoid sadly. Most damage I've done with it in a match is 500. Once. Total. Russian Haze players are the best btw.
>>541415580victor the moth and seven the flame>>541415148>neonazis have to put gay little dogwhistles (like shitty paintings) as their avatars>meanwhile commiechads put in hammer and sickle stalin without shamelol
>>541414881reminder 100s if not 1000s of people unironically think that gun builds take more skill then spirit builds because "you have to aim" even though every gun build is either shooting something like this or just spraying with an infinite ammo machine gun that has a bunch of on hit effects
>>541415907I had a match a few days ago where I was trying to melee the regenerating victor. I had been avoiding the stun every time by accident that I forgot it even has one.>>541415971If you think that hitbox is egregious, wait until you see literally any spirit ability (other than Victor's lightning bolt).
>so-so game>losing lanes to miku split push>infernus on mic starts screaming we've lost already>push them back>he's in full on panic saying they're full stack and will rush patron as soon as we go outside>win brool on their side and push into base>he keeps saying they're only baiting and already planned it out in their team discord>win because enemy team couldn't even leave spawn
>>541415915Yeah cause no one cares about Stalin. >>541415971I hate how people coming from non-MOBAS basically think skill = aim/movement. In MOBAs decision making is the most important skill.
>first game of the day>mirage on my team starts feeding the moment he lands on the lane>like 0/8 against enemy drifter minute 5>lose>second game of the day>matched with haze on my lane>we get first blood>we're doing okay>she gets killed eventually, doesn't come back to the lane, goes to another one>then abandons the game entirelywhat the fuck is happening
If we eventually get a console release, are they going to add cross-platform gamepad autoaim?
>>541416316they can't release on console becasue there's not enough buttons on a gamepad
>>541416103Where a player moves and where they aim their crosshair is decision making>>541416316>Valve>Console releaselmao
>>541416393what about steam deck though?
>>541416290Only retards play Dead-lock
>>541412027>Not having broken heroes is a BAD thing actually!Kill yourself
>>541412027Ivy too high, needs more nerfs
>>541415191Show your work. Let's see it.
>>541416840
>spirit resist no longer useful for Victor>guess I'll just not get it now>get to feel the full frontal bullshit of Talon and Paradox spirit burstspirit burst skills really needs to be toned the fuck down already imo
>>541415318Having large projectiles makes Split Shot better. You know that right? Of course you don't, shitter.
>>541415706That's what I'm saying. They do play passive and avoid all our fights they could have helped at any point. We let them farm, no problem. But eventually you need to put that farm to use but they dont they just ult the person clearing waves a few times and think they contributed.
Would having 1 more flying character hurt the game?I just want an Ivy ult alternative if she gets picked.
I have yet to see refresher or even cheat death on victor despite everyone prerelease saying they would run it.
>>541417634Does Refreshed refresh Cheat Death?
>>541417631
>>541417902that's just walking with extra steps
>>541417808Read!
>>541417986it's better than ivy ult because you can use fleetfoot and you get a real ult too
>>541417808>>541417997I just tested it and Refreshed doesn't refresh Cheat Death.
I love laning. I love bullying people in lane. I love making them hate queuing up.
>>541417986People underestimate kelvin 2 so bad. That + a movement item makes you omnipresent on the map. Even worse mid-late game when it’s low CD. I end every Kelvin game with dozens of assists just because I be at every lane or every fight in 3 seconds. Defending lanes, assisting, ganking, all of it. I'm a Kelvin 2 truther.
>>541417634Victors ultimate is dogshit anyway. Having refresher as an ultimate isn't even that great. Anyone who has had rejuv knows this, but people don't want him to actually be a good hero so everyone just whines. Having cheat death on him isn't great either because it's a shit item. It's a shit item on anyone.
>>541418584>RefreshedIt's RefresheR you fucking monkey
>>541418779same cuz its the part of the match that feels like an actual game and not cat and mouse waiting for one person to get caught out so you can have a 5v6 teamfight
>>541417097are you retarded nowhere did I say it wasn't good
>>541415093I always get it
>>541418779You: Man I bet this guy is soooo mad I killed him 8 times in laneHim: *rips bong and queues up the next netflix episode on his tv he's watching*
>>541417092got it, nerfing ivy kudzu again.
>>541419071>netflix
How do I play Shiv better I want to play Shiv.
>4 people on the enemy team dead for 20-40 seconds with no ults available>Tell our team to finish the game>Retarded german cuck tells everyone no it's a bad idea and we should all go back to base because we will wipe>Veil walker mo on the enemy team>Tell our wraith to back up repeatedly because there's an invis combo on the way 1000%>Ignores me so he can farm another wave>Gets caught>The same german retard makes a call that we should engage on our wraith who is 10% HP dying>People actually listen>Team wipes with 0 kills>Lose gameI have yet to meet a german with a pair of balls. I'm sincerely convinced they put estrogen in their water. I had to deal with this exact same shit when I played tourneys with this one team mate.
>Mina + HazeHow the fuck do you even play that lane as Ivy + Holliday?
>SpoilerPaige losing her "brother" is a trans allegory of her finally letting go of her masculinity and dysmorphia and being bewildered by the inner peace.
>>541418974
>>541419304monster rounds on ivy and minimise face time with either of them. mina only really applies her passive well up close so treat her like a shotgun character. haze on the other hand can stack very easily from afar. basically your ults are better and can very easily lead to kills so you need to play safe until then. if you *really* struggle you could take a weapon shielding which would give you a barrier to counter out the bursts on her passive. but you're honestly probably better off just building guardian wards and using them on eachother every wave.
>>541419462You stink and not in the good way like Paige.
>>541419304just spam kudzu and bombayou should actually win that cause of trading, just make sure to shoot the creeps so they dont have time to stack shots on you
>>541419687>>541419821Sounds like it's just "brace yourself for the bullshit" and play defensively.
>>541419304Focus haze because less healing. Should be pretty ez ngl because they have like 1200hp combined
what the fuck doorman is broken as shit, the only thing that can stop a doorman is if his teammates feed
>click upon the fourth key to make frogs appear >it's his ult
>>541413119Why are people so stupid nowadays?
Matchmaking......good?
Laning against Gay talon is pure aids holy fuck, no cooldown on those retard arrows.
>>541420568In their defense, Bram Stoker is a hack.t. read Lair of the White Worm
I'm trying to figure out a way to say to my friendgroup, "hey let's not pick Infernus because none of us have a positive winrate on him." But that makes me sound like an autistic cunt.
>>541421147>Lair of the White WormShould I read that?
>>541420568>women that recently read twilight>caring about eastern europe and cookingthose aren't stupid, they don't even count as people
>>541421251A better way to phrase it would be "hey retards if you can't aim then don't play infernus because you're throwing our games"
>>541420861>Good matchmaking is when I winWhat actually matters is whether the fights were fair.
>>541421349I don't even think it's aim, just a lack of macro and piss-poor farm patterns.Plus none of us are clearing jungle camps fast enough by Flame Dashing midway through 1 camp to get to another. Either that, or too much fighting midgame instead of farming to get ahead.
>>541421361Almost all of those games were stomps lol.
>>541421251gaslight them into believing infernus is a dogshit throw pickit seems like, in your case, he kinda is or just go like>don't pick infernus every time we pick him we lose
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
>>541421478Infernus is a much better side laner, he shouldn't be ARAMing.
>>541421558give him tits and long hair and I'll think about it
>>541421481Matchmaking fundamentally is a sorting algorithm for player skill so its efficacy is determined by the share of close matches. Its a little more nuanced then that because you can brute force close mat hes with comeback mechanics which is not ideal because it reduces the game to a coinflip but that's the gist
>>541421647absolutely not, he is peak cute and breedable as is
>>541421518I was doing that with Victor before the recent patches; one of them would pick him, then whatever lane he was in would fail and he wouldn't farm enough to actually be a threat late game.
>>541421819>breedable as iswith no womb?
Ramp victor?Intensifying magEscalating resilience Siphon boolets
When are they adding invoker?
>>541422025That's like my build up Mirage build with spiritual overflow, toxic bullets, inhibitor, and slowing bullets.
>>541422025Max greens, return fire. Add some active items like knock down too. Lifestrike. Be annoying retard man that wont die
>>541421305No. It's a very straightforward mystery about a demon worm, but most of the book is full of asinine diatribes about old forts and big kites that scare birds. Something half-interesting will happen then there will be back-to-back chapters of richfags politely visiting eachother. If you want something that is incompetent-but-entertaining, a better pick is something like https://ansible.uk/misc/eyeargon.html
>cheat death rework>now cuts down respawn time in halfworth?
>>541422303>games now last 60 minutesbehead this man for trying to ruin the game
Throw me numbers for a Mark Mirage build please.
>>541421708Is that measure of 'player skill' just your rank as it appears, or is there a hidden MMR mechanic?
>>541422394I dont got em but everyone I've seen waits way to long to build compress, it should be like 3rd item
Remember when soul rebirth was in the game and at 30 minutes every one would buy it and then games would take another 30 minutes because of it.
>>541422443Ranks just obscufate the number, there is always a mmr number
>>541422394Just get spiritual overflow and enchanter's emblem man, I don't think compress/transcendent cooldown is worth it.
>>541422593if it was added now pros would scoff at it as something useless
>>541422748Transcendent might not be worth it but compress comes online so early it definitely is
GIVE ME THE BEST BEBOP BUILD NOW
>>541422896I just don't think it's worth it in lane because people stand behind cover too much to ever max out your marks outside of like really low elo where people stupidly tank your bullets. I think it's better to just get quicksilver reload for damage and then focus on building items that get you more networth so you can then just grab spiritual overflow and run at people and kill them.
>>541423007uninstall
>>541423007Buy only blood tribute and then just sit in spawn with it turned on.
>>541423037Forcing them behind cover is good for tempo, losing lane on mirage is so brutal idk why you wouldnt go for this early powerspike to garuntee it
>>541423279Because I think forcing them to back off because you whittled them down to 1hp by spamming quicksilver is just better for winning lane. But I dunno you might be right.
Skills should be clearly labeled as Vitality Gun or Mystic and scale with same color items only regardless of skill effects.
When are they gonna make reactive barrier scale with boons instead of spirit?
>>541422303halves respawn, but if you die while it's on cooldown it doubles it.it's ghetto buyback but it costs an item slot and you practically instantly lose the game if you dieback.
>rejuv model stays hanging in the middle>all already taken>waste time hitting itThanks Yoshi
are patrons just staying like this?they already did an artpass for the base but the boss is still just a semi-futuristic floating orb
>>541423890Yamato is still a big headed purple alien, do you really think stuff like that is final?
>>541412215>old ivyI think her VA carried this character into being cute>cat ivyit's rat
>>541423397I think qsr was partially enabled by the old gun build stacking firerate, its a different gameplan now and you dont need to build around firerate as hard but build around the mark pop. There is a scenario where you get too much fire rate and you mag dump faster than you stack. At base mag size and base firerate it takes 5.8s to mag dump, it might actually be worth to go titanic
>has the best spirit burst in the game>can fly into the air>can remotely kill people across the map with precision>gets free spirit on kills>free spirit damage on gun>best end game disable for freeis Talon the most broken end game hero in the game?
so assuming both people are right up next to eachother so there's no added travel time, if you parry someone do you actually have enough time to double heavy melee?or are people just being retards and not mashing parry on the second hit?
>>541423971they can change chars whenever, map has to comply with the boss/shrine models
>>541423890there was a pretty cool throne with a guy on it in the files for the amber hand basewhether they'll change the model to match or if it's just decoration is anyone's guessbut they have started working on different trooper models for each team
>>541400720they are now more character base, which is why the enemy haze is always from higher ranks and the allied Haze is always shit.i guess the only way to counter it is to play the cancer characters yourself.
>>541424031I kind of build anti-meta on Mirage so that all doesn't really apply to me, I get stuff like hunter's aura, point blank, weighted shots, heroic aura or whatever depending on the matchup instead of building all damage and fire rate, though I do always get toxic bullets like most mirage builds do. I usually only have kinetic dash and qsr as my fire rate items, at least until I grab spiritual overflow which I've been doing now since the update.
>>541424139>different trooper modelsWhat's wrong with candle midgets?
>>541424230If you want to farm wins and you're actually good at the game, you have to play a carry, there's no way around it. Otherwise you're gonna get 50/50'd every game.
>>541424312it's kind of hard to tell whether you're on amber or sapphire because the troopers are always red; part of a larger effort to differentiate the sides of the map.
>>541422593Maybe it was just a reference to when you could buy an aegis in dota 1
>>541419994yeah that's most of ivy's laning matchups. her gun sucks. her growth just got nerfed heavily. you literally have to play defensively unless you've got a god tier laner with you. then you can support that.
Thanks Yoshi
>>541424827>the push-to-talk iconlel
>>541424827hahaha look at this retard
>>541421970anything and everything is possible with a cute cosmic being larping as a person!
>>541424925how is that the players fault?
>>541424457>part of a larger effortI dunno about thisknowing valve mappers, we'll have giant glowing signs with "ENEMY BASE THAT WAY" and 10 different arrowsimagine if parts of the map unlocked like in cp_steel
Why is it that doorman's ult is glitchy for me recently?The trapped person will teleport a bit and is off position when they come back from the Hotel.
>>541423890>they already did an artpass on the baseNo they didn't? What are you talking about?
>>541425320is it the same in the sandbox/abrams bot in hideout? might be ping if not
>>541425436Probably not. Never try that.But it doesn't happen every time.Only 1-3 times at most each games.
>>541425626>>541425320Welcome brother, to the world of a Kelvin main, where your ult has a 1/10 chance of throwing the enemy under the man until it ends, thereby saving their life.
>>541425704i love when that happens>get thrown under ground>still within range to scorn the people above me>heal for a ton of HP while they wonder where the fuck i wentand i got away with it too.
>>541413957Im stuck here for months
dynamo gawds... i kneel...
>>541426175midboss fights are such garbage
>>541426175THE LASH did the hard work to facilitate that
>>541426175>>541426462Normally I wouldnt agree but imagine having so much rejuv advantage between a well timed lash ult and dome only for your dipshit teammates to be locked in a double jump instead of parrying on top of the rejuv
>>541426175I cant believe people were rating him low for a while
>>541426175>he's green for an amazing reasonfrogs
>>541426175>infernus sitting on the sidelines at full hp plinking away while his ult's up
>>541426462they should change it to a capture point type mechanic so at least a teamfight has to fully resolve and the last people standing get it.maybe the people that kill it get extra progress per body on the point or something.make the point big as fuck so people can't just put ass cancer on the ground to deny it.
>>541419105Please no
>>541424031Scratch that I didnt know titanic was so bad now, I thought it still gave resistance>>541424283Weighted shots is a bild choice on someone regularly going for long range shots
>>541426919I mean I build tank/front liner mirage, hence the point blank and hunter's aura buys as well. I like things that give me flat max hp or armor.
>>541426919>badfor a 1600 item it's great
>see teammate getting chased on map>show up to try and cover their escape>make space for them to escape>they see me and turn around to fight>they instantly die after dashing back in>now i die too because i stayed longer than i should have
>>541427339Put up with this for 10 years of playing support in dota and it still drives me fucking insane.Even worse is when you get solo picked off, and then the rest of your team walks in 1 at a time to die until its a full teamwipe.Then the team blames you for all their deaths. I'm playing support for fucks sake just let me die alone. Nobody made your stupid asses lemming into the meatgrinder with a numbers disadvantage
>>541427339can't stay in the fight if I cube and abduct them in a drive byjust kidding these dumbasses love mashing jump to cancel everything
>>541419132>>netflixpeak of entertainment
>>541427565i forgot to mention that said teammate was at literally 1 bar of HP.i was fed in laning phase so they just assumed i would magically make all their problems go away.
>>541407871you dont play the game
>>541427308I mistyped, I meant bold, unless you meant titanic which i also thought was still 3k. Ill definitely experiment with it then, could easily get 2 max marks in one clip>>541427004Ahh ok, I like tankymirage too
>40+ minute game>tell team I'm going to pressure mid to bait>lower midboss until the scream>"don't join, I'm baiting">starting to leave >2-3 of my team suddenly slide in anyway>they start to try and finish midboss all the way>wtf>enemies now right ontop of us >mfw I have no idea wtf to do now>a shitty team fight ensues >favors enemy team due to draft>our team loses and we lose game>realize my mistake
>>541427806only if you're 12, jewish, and gay
>>541411981ew
>>541428149Was it worth it?
>>541428149how's unemployment treating you?
>>541420568imagine, it was this bad 15 fucking years ago. not only have we had 15 more years of staring at screens and being brain-melted by ever-enshittifying social media, but this was BEFORE the massive extreme alt-left revolution of the late 10s and early 20s that has left most of society a barely-functioning husk of troglodytes the likes of which even cavemen would scoff at.Also you should have to pass a fucking test and get a certificate or something (and be 21+) to review a product online, dammit. Between this and "review bombing" being a constant practice because some 13-year-old 'non-binary' got mad that an awesome product had a character breathe the wrong way that gave them "bad vibes" at one point causing a mass wave of 1/10th "to stand on principle" from a million braindamaged subhumans is not something that should be able to happen, much less to every fucking product these days
>>541428349>i had funThat's good then.
>>541428149Mains?
>>541428349>pretty goodAs long as you're good.
>>541416290>>she gets killed eventually, doesn't come back to the lane, goes to another onewhy do haze players do this?I've had this happen to me multiple times, haze leaving the lane to fuck off to do whatever
i think i would have won if mo and krill didn't get nerfed.
https://files.catbox.moe/y2fgpg.flac
>>541428351Usually ill read one 5 star review and one 1 star review and whoever is more retarded let's me know wherethe product actually lies inversely
>Lane partner immediately dives and gets parried>Blames me for not helping
>>541429082WHO'S THAT POKEMON?(also to be clear i was the mo and krill player, just thought it was funnier from the ivy pov).
Just go in a seeker match.These retards are actually worse than Initiators and play like a bot.Matchmaking is truly fucked, and Valve doesn't want to do anything about it.
vyper feels like a real hero nowthank you icefraud
remind me why Haze fixiation lingers for 11 seconds
>try billy for the first time>his gun kicks up and makes you have to compensate slightlywhy? nobody else with a rapid fire gun has this.
>first match of the day>someone already quits and invalidates the matchthis game is unplayable
>>541430523everyone should have cs style recoil patterns desu
>>541430523holliday and vyper do i believe.
why are these creatures building transcendent cooldown with basically no item cooldowns
>mina>only farms>all farm all game>"hey can you take part in team fights and obj">"farm is better than pointless fights">fastforward, we lose the game after 57m>Mina has 1900 obj damage>les splayed damage than me playing paigekill meneed longer post match lobbies to talk shit with stats shown
>>541430161Ive been running kinetic dash and shadoweave to stay in character as a snake when ganking, leaping from the shadows
>>541428149>>541428349>>541428810???
>>541431007have you seen how long it fucking takes for lash to be able to use his skills again?without that shit you are a sitting duck
why is it so common for people who are losing lane to seethe and start nitpicking the other two lanesi had a 1-6 mina flame my lane partner over mic because he missed a swap on paradox 9 mins in but the only reason he even saw the swap miss is because he had six fucking deaths and was constantly in the spectator cam watching the other lanes kek
>>541431452He did the right choice. /vg/ is a bad place to get identified in. Lots of psychopathic autistical troons.
>queued against split shot paige Euthanize.
I cant think of a character that wouldnt want cdr, no mana means its always good
>>541431007Paige wants to have her shield up as often as possible, that's why.
>>541431629stat blobs who don't buy activesi.e retards
>>541431664>3200 gold for 5% cooldown
>>541431007>why would the character with two actives that's heavily reliant upon her cooldowns want cdr
I know Fury Trance is busted on Haze but the worm in my brain insists on holding on to Bullet Lifesteal until Vampiric BurstIf only you could "disassemble" and downgrade items for a partial refund
>>541431584True!
>>541431007how does transcendent and enchanter's stack?
>>541431007>split shot>no other gun itemsthis is retarded right? this has to be a gun tranny psy op and not a real way to build
>>541432143Cdr is mutiplicative, it doesnt matter a huge amount but if you have 3 small sources instead of 1 big one you can get an extra ~3%
Mn Yoshi said um say they be taking off lil Cali and Mishi Viper and redesigning them bitches ROUGH!!!
>>541432235? Split shot early is very good in lane on paige.
>from concentrate>meatshuh?
>guy on my team goes gun sinclair>it fucking suckswho could've predicted this???? i'm sure a meme build might not be a fucking waste if you're in a stack but it was less than worthless in solo queue
>>541432328concentrated astral meat energy, obviosulynot gnome children
>>541432328>doesn't know about making garloid concentratengmi
>Play Calico>Get top obj dmgNo matter the outcome of the match, everyone should derank because of that
>>541432328>summoning meat concentrate from the meat dimension to undercut local butchersthis guy's got a head for business
>>541432328uma delicia
>>541432550spirit calico's obj damage is respectable with how low bomb cd is.if you went melee however then yes.
>>541432235>split shot on attack with huge hitbox, high damage and innate punchthrough that can melt waves with no need for other gun upgradesyeah bro it's bad trust, guntranny shit frfr
>>541432376Did he go Sharpshooter express shot opening rounds tho?sniper Sinclair slaps seekers silly
>>541432814woah... 90 damage with no firerate...holy shit, in a minute paige will be able to do the damage that an actual gun carry could do in .5 seconds >buying items to wave clear on a character with a charge skill that instantly kills the wavesugoi
>>541433014>not using your 1 to instaclear neutral camps on cooldown
>>541433013he tried but he was laning vs a haze, got his ass handed to him, swapped to lane vs an infernus instead and the same thing happened
>>541433014it's actually a psychological weapon.you're throwing books across the battlefield and gamers hate reading.they will get out of the way.
>>541433370>Kinetic dashWhat an idiot
>>541431007paige has 2 items with cooldowns THOUGH
>>541416469Looked at gameplay on youtube and it runs like shit on steamdeck.
Who should I play if I want to be a green item chad?
>>541433891Mohammed & KareemViscousVictor or Drifter if you're a faggot
Gun Victor seems like an odd case. I like clicking people but even with high firerate and his ult maxed you really don't do that much extra damage. Spell slinger may have been a mistake, probably just get QSR on battery. And with his 3 changes, even at point blank in group fights you often DON'T want it on because of how much it rapes your own health. If you're taking a lot of fire you need all the health your 2 gives you even without the extra self damage
>>541434075Maybe hunter's aura/point blank since you're running right in their face anyway.
Oh they turn cheaters into frogs? We just got stomped by a haze when it asked me to vote on them lmao.
>get dragged into a 5 stack that includes an Initiate 1 as Archon IV
>>541423890The current patrons are designed for Deadlock. Neon Prime has "titans", pic related. I actually like the current patrons. They are like magic-mechanical automata designed to be a vessel for an extradimensional being.
AND THE RASH ON MY DICK KEEPS BUUUUURNIIIIIINNNNNNWHEN I PEE IT KEEPS ON BURRRRNINNNN
Haven't played since there was 4 lanes. How's Viscous atm? That's who I had played the most.I was mostly just putting everything into the puddle punch like mystic slow and extra charges and aoe and just goo fisting all game. Any new tech I should check out with the newer shop?
>>541424139>but they have started working on different trooper models for each teamThey better not fuck this up. Little candle guys are great. They should only make them better little candle guys. Same with what I said in >>541434498.
>>541434075something about his gun just sucks dick.on paper it seems fine, even the projectile speed should be playable but something ain't right.
>>541434759fist maxing is a mixed bag since it can be parried now but there's more melee items to lean into.As a whole though he's still fun
>>541434075You need to slide bro, you move so fast on victor that you don't need to worry about ammo management at all. Also spellslinger is for more drawn out fights so I can see why it would feel anemic in a short brawl. I prefer buying spiritual overflow first.
I can't play beam kelvin without early spirit lifesteal it's a life saver
I'm starting to think Victor should be a pure hybrid.IE: every bar even or close to even.He only seems to work when I build that way.Also his 3 seemed fine if you stack spirit lifesteal now instead of just spirit res.
I was around top 500 when I last played a year ago, is there a way to recalibrate because I was getting fisted my first game back and suspect that will be the case for at least the next 100 games or so.
>>541436373oh you'll get fisted no matter what, but your rank probably decayed way downjust too many smurfs
I wish Paige was fat.
>>541436373I was in a similar position.The game has changed a LOT since we played.I used to be High Ascendant to low Eternus.I've been playing again for about a month (though only ~5 matches a day on average) and I'll say this: I watched some of my old replays and I'm better than I was back then.I'm now firmly in Alchemist 5-6, and having fun matches.The general skill in this game has skyrocketed in the last year.My advise: ignore rank for now and just have fun.It's all getting reset before the game opens up anyway, and there will be a FLOOD of newbs when they do.
I wish Calico was a fat black nigress with comically enlarged boobs and butt
what if instead of fortitude it was forthejude and gave you more stats the more unspent souls you had
>>541434075>spellslingerwhat are you doing nigger lol
>>541437640I know Icefrog is a towlhead, but that's too on-point even for him.
>>541435596watch Yoshi nerf this somehow for no reason
>>541435596ammo can come in handy against heroes that stop your movement like lash, dynamo and cowboy lady Holiday, since they stop sliding completely
>>541436908Mock up Haze has more soul than the original
troopers are great. I love the little candle creepsgive us a candle commander hero
>>541439231imagine a communist hero being about the little minions rising up
>finally won after 11 loses in a rowwent all the way back to initiate 3 even though most of those were inhouse.
This might be the worst-feeling state the game has been in a long while.>Infernus, Bebop, Paradox, and others have essentially gotten stronger just by dodging nerfs or barely getting slaps on the wrist in relation to the rest of the cast>Icefrog's pet character, Kelvin, still dictating every match with impunity cause he got BUFFED>outcomes feeling dependent on if the team has a 0/15 or a 15/0 Mina>matchmaking feels even WORSE>Mirage with the cooldown change is now so insanely strong that I thought he would get an overkill emergency nerf like Victor within 24 hours but so far nothing, so I guess he gets to run rampant for a while, as a treat>problem items like Veil Walker and Cultist still widely being used, in fact the whole item meta from before is largely unchanged>crystal clear now that the devs straight up don't know what to do with characters like Victor, Ivy, and Vyper or just melee in generalKilling almost all my motivation to play right now
Is gun paige good, fun?
>>541439945not sure about high ranks but in lower ranks she shreds with split shot
whats in the update that just went up?
>>541440206no one knows, it is not listed on the changelogs.they do that some tims probably bugfixing. saw some streamer have a bug where all shops were closed besides the base shop
>>541439306>communist heroa purebred marxist? because russia is still an empire here
>>541431462>5% faster cooldown for 3200The genius of Lash players
>>541440523isn't it some kind of mix between cocos and tsars? Either way a purebreed communist indeed or something frightenly close like he's laser focused on the minions and not the human workers for some reason
>>541417986Unrelated, but can we discuss how underwhelming crow is as a spell?>oh goody, a shiv knife I can cast every 30 seconds
>>541440206making creeps ignore towers again
>>541417097peak schizo post
>>541440735>crow debuff now provides the same kind of outline vision as Backstabber doesWould help her land assassinates on fleeing/juking enemies.
>>541440672at max level:>ground strike goes from 11s to 7.7s>grapple goes from 23s to 16.1s>flog goes from 12s to 8.4s>death slam goes from 130s to 91sit also works on items so something like Majestic leap goes from 28s to 16.6s. Lash also gets more spirit which helps with his ground strike damage
>>541440735this post reminded me most of vindicta spells have longer cds than mina ult with spirtiual and trans cd
>>541441385Superior cooldown already reduces by 25% you're paying double the price for 1 off second at most, and the whole original point was that he had no active items
>>541441385it's great as a mid-late/late item but getting it before you have a single active is retarded. 3200 for barely a second more cd reduction.
>>541441046Didn’t it literally used to? Or am I going insane
>>541408036Jungle deserves buffing only if they delete seven from the game. I'm sick of shitting on him in lane only for the seven to get a 10k lead on me 20 minutes later just couse he can hit tier 3 camps while also having the ability to rotate and clear waves with mega move speed that he gets by just buying items that also give him spirit damage.
holy shit why is vyper such an unrepentant whoreliterally every 2 minutes playing this bitch she says she wants to fuck someone or something
>>541442769make more alternative income sources like the punch machines and boxesthe snowball effect that comes from farming carries buying farm items to farm faster warps mobas
>>541408858On lane I go melee lifesteal, close quarters, Backstabber, melee charge, fleetfoot. Afterwards I go fortitude, burstfire and upgrades for the lane items. I run around, slap squishy backliners for 1k damage when they aren't looking at me and finish them with rend and gun.
>>541442769I wonder why seven always gets shit for this but nor infernus, wraith and haze
>>541439945Nothing quite like deleting an overconfident Drifter that didn't bother to see what you're building.
>>541443069That's usually balanced in dota by having carries being really dogshit early, the items being expensive, being really immobile or squishy or a combination of all these that was obtained from decades of knowledge and testing.For some reason carries here have either good or amazing early games here with mobility and tankiness so there's absolutely no trade of, they're literally always good, you don't lose or risk anything by picking them and they have very little downsides besides whos the best one of the current patch.
>>541443037>oh look at me i'm anon, i'm too good for snussykys my man
>>541440735Meh, it can ricochet (usually gets eaten up by creeps) and it's useful to apply debuffs like Mystic Slow, Supressor, Healbane etc. It used to be much better.
>>541441046would make more sense than it does now>"Marking them!">shitty DoT and nothing else happens
I want to try new items but i also dont want to fucking lose
>>541443037>he doesnt want to shag with an impulsive trailer trash sociopathetic murder
>>541443665I didn't say that, but if she's gonna be a sex crazed turbo whore that will vacuum your cum 0.2 seconds after meeting you she better start looking like it.
>>541443832your sandbox mode sir?
just saw metro with a 3k soul bag jump into a 1v5 as haze and ult and die
DOES THIS GAME HAVE A CHARACTER FOR AUTISTS LIKE NASUS OR YORICK?
>>541444365biscus
>>541440735It's gone through so many nerfs. It used to last forever and a single crow would take out ~60% of your health.
>>541443180Couse 10 months later and he still has 55% winrate at all ranks and needs 0 items to clear camps with his balls.
>>541444587Try a year and half lmao
I play this as a pve game. I stay in my lane and push objectives. Maybe I go to another lane and push objectives. If I can't, I jungle. If an enemy jumps me, I leave.If my team is teamfighting, I leave.Objectives only.
>>541403014post his build m8
>>541444365Bebop, Viscous and Abrams
objectively it's good that audio cues are so important in this gamesubjectively it makes me mad because sometimes i just want to damage my hearing with really fucking loud music
>>541444708Not him but I had a game where I went 10/0/10 and top dmg as The Doorman. I build for general spirit nuking early game then build for gun/support with door.That game I went full spirit because the enemy team were Emissary glue eaters and I bullied the Infern+Billy in lane AND the butthurt Shiv from blue.
boy I really enjoy doorman doing 1.3k gun damage with 2 gun items with guaranteed headshots 15 minutes in and there's literally nothing I can do to prevent it what a well crafted game
Abrams maniacal laugh seems a little improper for a stoic detective
>>541445135Nigga he falls off late game, just don't lose so fast lmao
>>541445282>just get raped by an 8 feet tall 450 lbs mandingo for 35 minutes straight bro, at minute 36 onward he gets a little bit tired so you have a 1% higher chance of kicking him off
>>541444701sounds perfectly fine if you're playing mc g
Is Turret McGinnis viable as a carry build?
Why the fuck did Valve queue me into an EU lobby? I mean it was an easy game but I dont like playing with high ping
>>541446298you can treat the game as pve and carry your team on objective damage
>>541446392were you playing with a friend
Why are so many ults and abilities in this game designed around the enemy just not being allowed to play the game?
>>541446573Solo. Steam was downloading in the background without me knowing when I queued. Stopped it and my ping was manageable but still high. Check recent players after the game and over half the lobby was Russian/Ukraine
>>541443686Shiv knife does all these things on half the CD and chargesalso it's on Shiv and not shitty foot sniper
>>541446780conceptualize 20 unique ultimates without crowd control
Who do you need to have the bigger brain for?Sinclair or Doorman?Or somebody else?
how do i build viktor now is surge of power good
>>541447370Sinclair
>>541447896paradoxbros be like>after i spend 30k i can deal 1.5k damage every 25 secondsand think it's some impressive shit
Why are there no items that remove ultimate effects? I'm tired of getting hit by Pocket's ult and he just fucks off only to fly back in with majestic leap.
>>541448317Divine Barrier does do that however thoughbeit
>>541448317eth shift, divine barrier and i think at least for the active timeframe unstoppable
>>541447370Doorman at the theoretical highest level of play and it's not even close.I haven't even seen the big GOATs fully harness him yet.
>>541448243well their wall alone and swap makes them already superior to most heroes
>been playing Victor gun since big nerfs>lets check hero ranking>not even top 500I quit playing this hero.
>>541445367yes, and he can do it to me too
what do you think happens to dead outdated clickbait content from videogames? do they die and get to go to shit heaven?
>>541449420WHAT ARE THOSE ICONS BRUUUHUNC USING CLIPART
>figured out the retard proof way to climb to ritualistI'm not telling.
Who do I watch to learn The Doorman?
>>541450067the only two streamers I know of that play him are eido and fredthefinch
>>541450067piggy has decent guides
>>541449971>climb>to ritualistis it having over 50 iq?
>>541448317Just outheal it bro
>>541450067Eido probably plays him the best right now but his execution is really sloppy.
>>541449294Victor's gun is wonky and not performing like it should based on the numbers.
>>541450269even at 70% winrate I'm still stuck in alchemistit simply doesn't let me rank up
>>541446780There are so many combinations of visual effects paired with projectile speeds, patterns, delays, size etc, that you could make unlimited ultimates without any of them having CC. All the need to make is stuff that deals damage and looks and sounds cool, it's not that hard.
>>541450649You've played too many games, and the "stability" code has kicked in.The number of games required to rank up is relative to your total number played.Ranking down, however, is not below Ritualist. It's easy to test: just make an alt (it's only a smurf if you're Oracle+) and play. I guarantee you'll shoot up in rank FAST.
>>541451000what kind of retarded fucking system is this?
>take a long break from the game>fell from phantom to ritualist (simply from decay)>ranking up is god awful hard no matter how well you play >rank up to archon>stop playing for a month to go on vacation>check my rank when I get back>ritualist>half my matches I'm the only one not going negative so I guess I'm just stuck hereRanks are literally bogus
>>541444209is not the same as in an actual match
>>541451073A kind of retarded system developed by Icefrog.
>>541451000>You've played too many games, and the "stability" code has kicked in.Why is this even a thing. Does Valve think you improve at a slower rate if you've played more or something? It doesn't make any sense.
Anyone want to play together?
>>541451163it's made to artificially keep the top ranks there and all the middle ranks down to the bottom ranks because the original system had most of the population near the middle.
>>541451252Region?
>>541451000>>541451140schizoposting
I think I know why the climb is so uneven.
>>541451330US west.
Sometimes i really regret knowing russian (unfortunately was born there before we moved to the states). 95% of the time I get real native english speakers, even if the game isn't going well they joke around and play on. russians on the other hand go full vitriol from second one of the round, and then scream about having exclusive rights to lane/camp or they throw. I swear to god we need a god damn range ban of russains from USE/USW.
>>541451434rank doesnt matter, even games matterif you play to improve and not to gain rank youre ranking up anyway
>>541451354It's not, I can confirm the shit he's saying and multiple people have said the same, for some reason the higher you go the more games in a row you have to win to rank up, yet if you lose a fraction of that number you instantly rank down.
>>541451434how is the rank even calculated? I am often one if the most assist, objective damage or even the one with less deaths but since my team often has absolute beginners I almost never win.
>>541451434I also have a sneaking suspicion that the only people left above archon never took a break from the game to decay below these ranks, its a struggle clawing my way back to phantom
>>541451461>DotardEw yeah no thanks
>>541451554Personally I play to have fun.
>>541451163Valve is literally retarded.Why do you think over 50% of the active playerbase is Initiate, with a huge % being Initiate 1?Smurfs play a factor, yes, but the stability system is 90% of the issue. Lots of players quit for extended periods which delays them below Ritualist at which point it's an inevitable spiral down to Initiate 1.The irony here is that Initiate level matches are actually closer to Eternus in style and execution than everything from Seeker to Ritualist because of it.t. Eternal-Ascendant who regularly makes alts.
Is it true that Victor is just subpar until 40k souls and then becomes the GOAT or what??
>>541451606>Ew yeah no thanksHe says as he plays the dotard clone made by dotards
>>541451610improving my game is fun to me
>>541451606Alright...
>>541451554>even games matterNot even the fucking pro games are even, most of them are a stomp.Anything to avoid admitting that the "rank" and matchmaking is completely fucking broken.
>>541451680No he's just garbage all the time now.
>>541450269I can't even climb to Alchemist.
>>541451554>rank doesnt matter, even games matterah yes they're really pushing for even games
>>541451554>if you play to improve and not to gain rank youre ranking up anywayyou can't improve when playing against the same level of opponents and sliding down due to disorganized playsthe only thing I can do at this point is get on comms full time and shout like an army sarge praying they won't mute me
is victor good now
>>541451554i do wish i had slightly higher rank because even if i find it fun to try to carry 1v11, there's too many games where i'm just allowed to fastfarm the entire enemy jungle and run around getting every sinner's sac with no repercussions and i can tell from inhouses it's giving me bad fucking habits>>541451786elegg tummy
>>541452247No.
>>541451461rank?
How do smurfers deal with the pressure of knowing they're the only reason their team us winning and that a single mistake or bad play on their part will cost the match instantly?
>>541451527>US doesn't have screaming manchildren, it's all russians I swear
>>541452498They do but not at the rate of actual russians.
>>541452498It's rare for a septic to speak Russian to be fair
>>541452476>How do smurfers deal with the pressure of knowing they're the only reason their team us winning and that a single mistake or bad play on their part will cost the match instantly?by buying TRVE 1v11 items like curse unstoppable e-shift etc.
>>541452443I just came back to the game so Seeker IV
I also think stacks shouldve been restriced a long time ago, I know people want to play with their friends and maybe they are scared they will lose players, but I think ultimately they have lost more players overall due to the impact of wide skill discrepancies in stacks and then trying to find an even match for solo queuers, it has sabotaged what ranks mean when shroud can disappear for a year and stack with eternus players that want clout, its time to disable anything more than 2, restrict stacks to playing against each other, or restrict the range of ranks allowed to queue together, something must change
>>541452639i am in oracle so im afraid you might just get skullfucked to death if we queue, ganbatte anon
>>541452476Honestly i don't think about it all, i'm just doing it to play with my friends. More often than not the other enemy team will have the exact level of smurf (we do 4-6 person stacks). If i play on my main (ascended) rank, it will be even worse for my low elo friends.
Inhouse tonight?
>>541452917I ranked Oracle when I last played but then again the meta was pretty different.
>>541452934Do your friends even have fun in a lobby like that? You just run around doing everything while they sit on their ass.
>>541453035sorry, it's cloggedtry an outhouse
>>541453174In English?
>>541453214bix nood
>>541450269Ritualist is the top 20%. Even if you assume the deadlock population has a distribution that follows the IQ scale, that puts you at 115 IQ.However this is a dedicated niche playerbase that has been playing the game a long time so the IQ required for ritualist is likely higher. Probably 120+
Why do some people so blatantly aimbot and yet pretend they don't?They really expect me to believe a human has the reaction time to confirm 3 souls, deny 2 more, and land a number of headshots during a single diagonal dash-jump?
>>541453154I try to do funny builds (sometimes punch sinclair and whatnot). My friends are getting better at the game, and they play without me a lot too (but they call me from time to time when they wanna win, or get 5 losses in a row and feel tilted, so i come help).
>>541453376I have a mensa confirmed IQ of 154 and I'm an eternal initiate because my aim is trash and this is ultimately a gun game past 30 minutes which happens in nearly every initiate game.
>>541453598>I have a mensa confirmed IQ of 154what's that good for?
>>541453376I'm a 60 iq monkey brained retard and I'm ritualist 5 right now.
Whenever you see someone aiming a little too well in a shooter mainly populated with Russians assume cheating before anything else.
>>541425141>Runs 1v6 with null resistances >Starts hitting the already claimed revuj , starts shooting the rejuv (retardation), 40 bullets in magazine decides to melee hit a haze>T-thanks yoshiI am glad I will not see shit victor players anymore (Because i will be playing him)
>>541453704Well, it got me a CompSci degree which has landed me a solid job, but otherwise it's really only good for crippling anxiety because I instantly recognize all the things that will likely go wrong with every decision I make.
>>541453808mo players are the exception that proves the rule
>>541453598That's what my retardproof (read: aimlet) build is made for. It barely requires aiming and allows you to build steady pressure on the enemy team. All it requires is some positioning and map awareness.The lack of bullet damage on the build makes it harder for you to carry but you aren't high skill enough to carry anyway. What it does is tip the scales in your favor and improve your winrate with a consistent strat that works into ritualist.No I'm not telling.
>>541453704He gets to brag about it on imageboards.>>541453924I'm a mirage player actually.
>>541453971t. dynamo stomper
why does this general always try to rage bait people posting webms?
>>541453971the LASH has always been climbing
how does one filter a word so it auto removes posts with it
>>541454135>>541454247These aren't my heros but they're probably fine options for retard climbing too. My hero is a lot better at long range sustained damage, allowing your retarded team to followup when they deign to, while Dynamo and Lash seem more all in and a bit more reliant on your teammates timing things correctly.
>>541454204it's just that guy because he is particularly retarded
I gottu an inhourse to run it down
Why do I have to beg my team to come mid everytime we knock out 3 of the enemy and there isn't a walker on the table or something?Literally every time I ping mid a few times, then start spamming it when I see them doing jungle or something retarded, before I turn on voice chat and grovel to them to come to mid for free safe rejuv
>>541451680after the latest nerff you will need 50k now since spirit resists don't longer work on his abilities
calico should sound like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hcg6kGQH3VU
>>541455001what is it about this hero that makes inhousers just die a dozen times for nothing
>>541455761Too much of the blood supply being taken from the brain at the thought of a Japanese lady
>>541455761yamato has some of the best skirmish spirit burst abilities in the game but most yamatos just run in and die
Just abandoned a game for the first time because I dont feel like being my teammate's outlet for whatever problems they're having irl. Feels freeing to finally just leave.
shoutout to Appenom
>>541452347ok thank u i will play him anyway
>>541456112holy shit
>we're getting stomped>I'm victor with 0 kills and 2 deaths>our haze has 2 kills and 10 deaths>according to her I'm the problem>obviously catch up on her kills before we die>she ends the game with 12 deaths>0/12 paige as wellGuess it was my fault we lost
>>541455983Just mute them, throw the game, afk, feed, berate them back. If you leave your enemies win you get put in low prio. queue
>>541456258yea, i've noticed retards on mic/comms will zero one on a single person on a team even if the other 3 are sucking. strange anti-social behavior, probably unemployed players
>>541456258>playing victor>post-quadruple nerfsyea it pretty much is though
Today's lane partner, sir
5 wins 2 losses as doorman, I don't understand the majestic leap meme when superior stamina is so nice on him, you get that with arcane surge and you can do so much
>>541456346>your enemies winThey win if I throw too, no?
>>541456420Does he know he can shoot his gun at the enemy gamers too?
>>541456112wow she's literally me
>>541456420kek, one stomp alone is easily 300 damage during lane, how the fuck does he achieve this?
I want to play Holliday but I can't aim for shit fuck my life
>>541456420>I CAN'T CONTAIN IT!
>>541456650I was trying to meme this into it.If your teammates insulting you then fuck him, he deserves to lose and so do the other 4 people letting it happen.
>>541455875I haven't played her much, are you supposed to mainly use her 1? Bad dives with the 2/3 combo seems to be what gets her killed
>>541456420
Yamato's ult should temporarily increase all her stats by 30x for 5 minutes but it takes 25 minutes to channel
>>541456112posts like this are why inhouses will die fast againanyways Ill remember this the next time someone in here is arguing about how weak paradox is
>>541457191i dont think thats from an inhouse, is it? there was no inhouse hosted in this thread.
>>541455396calico shouldn't look like a nigger
Some nigga is just reposting shit here on the discord
>>541457191what the fuck are you talking about you schizo
okay I fucking hate gun victor, I'm playing him spirit again as if he never got nerfed in the first place
Wanted to play Vyper, but rolled Doorman instead. I had a lot of fun and preformed well in lane. We even won 5v6.
why does bola have an area effectranged aoe doorman ultso fun
>>541457191>inhouses will die fast againThey were a thing a year ago, retard.
>>541457768this was the Talon's state mandated loss
>>541457915Not that anon but is English your second language?
>>541458126I would prefer you did not use discriminatory language, sir
>>541458126Yes, I just realized that I missed "again". I could have easily done the same in my native language, though.
>>541458281KEK
>get to oracle>every single match is everyone only playing the most op heroes with the fotm op buildjesus this is awful
is pocket a femboy or a tomboy?
>>541458579he's a real nigga
>>541458579hes just a twink
>enemy billy in our jungle>1k+ soulbag>brooling against him>kill him>faggot mirage who showed up last minute and shot him twice charges his heavy right before billy dies>steals the soulbagHoly fuck that is infuriating. I threw the game after that if someone doesn't do a certain percentage of damage to an enemy they shouldn't be allowed to steal the soulbag.
>>541458579he's a man at the very least
>>541458720finders keepers lil nuclear
>>541458720so they're not allowed to pick up your 2k soulbag and just give it to the enemy team as a tribute?
>>541458579bitches call me homosexual the way i be chasing the sack
What's a good Billy build but unironically
>>541458918If I died I would want the soulbag to go to someone on my team. But the fact that the Mirage was 1/8 and wasn't doing fuck all while I was trying my hardest to put the team on my back is what set me off. He literally was doing nothing he would be the first to run from a team fight full hp didn't even backstrafe, and shoot while running away. He was the biggest waste of space on the team.
>>541402115You're a retard. Gun was only buffed very slightly in the mid-late game.
>>541459204jerking off to goat porn until you win
What time do you lads want to start inhouse?
I was watching an OneyPlays compilation and realized that Ivy's voice actress also voiced Neenah in the Saints Row game.https://youtu.be/uffoKTb0GVg
>>541454639what guy?
i WILL play victori WILL build healing resources onlyi WILL take every camp and wave of troopersi WILL do less damage than paigei WILL win the game but antagonize my own team more than the entire enemy teami WILL make you wish this character didnt existi WILL blame you for not carrying the early mid and mid-late game for me to get EVERY 6k i wantand you WILL commend me for the pleasure
>>541460014>t. 20k objective damage 30k healing 5k player damage
>>541460014>i WILL play victor>i WILL win the game pick one
Remove all non skillshots from the game
We can't keep calling this shit jungle. No I don't care if it came from Dota or League, this is a goddamn city, please call it something else
>>541460371ok but you need to come up with the name, it needs to work as a location and a verb, get on it
>>541460371Concrete jungle faggotron, try again
>>541460371Whole bunch of stuff needs Deadlock specific names"jungle""midboss""heroes"
>>541457191that was a random match
>>541458579Pocket is actually a genderless homunculus made by Maximillien's cloning experiments at Fairfax
>>541460489alley?
>>541460371bungle
>>541459204gunrebuttal got overbuffed and it kind of kills melee builds
After finally playing her for a few games i can confidently say Haze is a retard character that plays herself
>>541460371ghetto
>>541460636you want people to say they are alleying?
>>541460972Hey team there's an Infernus at our ghetto
>>541460371minorities
>>541460972>Let's gank the infernus at the ghetto says warden
>>541460831welcome to M1
>>541412272>you think Haze glows in the darkOfc she does shes a goddamn fed
>>541460636that's where you mom works, don't insult the cyclop freaks comparing them to that whore and her domains
>>541461219Ok Billy chill
>>541421647Victor was made for you then
>get put against a stack with a full team of solo queues>get stomped>wait literally 10 minutes to queue>get put against the same stacksolo queue only fucking when
>>541456973Yes. 2 is ignored unless you can 100% secure a kill or need to escape by hooking to a creep or something. You just whittle them down with 1 slashes and then when they're low enough engage with 2+3+4+1+2+3+items
>>541460819I mean an actual build you fucking numbnutsAnd melee items will always be important on billy since his 1 is melee and has charges, max upgrade giving him heavy melee effects
What is the Doorman?
>>541461919wow, I was going to link my billy build but now I wont.
Inhouse upUS East30JZF30JZF30JZF
>>541414664no matter how you spin it, you're a faggot.
>>541462004A sex symbol.
>>541455234>spirit resists don't longer work on his abilitiesWHAT?!!!!!!?!??!?!??!?!
>>541462287as in you cant buy spirit resists to mitigate the damage you do yo to yourself. enemies can do it just fine.* Victor: Pain Battery T3 heal reduced from 20% to 18%* Victor: Jumpstart cooldown increased from 22s to 23s* Victor: Aura of Suffering self damage can no longer be reduced by spirit resistance (same as Jumpstart)* Victor: Aura of Suffering self damage reduced from 85% to 80%
>get ulted by 3 people>team still cant win fight after i was the CC magnetfuck this game man
>>541462287* Victor: Pain Battery T3 heal reduced from 20% to 18%* Victor: Jumpstart cooldown increased from 22s to 23s* Victor: Aura of Suffering self damage can no longer be reduced by spirit resistance (same as Jumpstart)* Victor: Aura of Suffering self damage reduced from 85% to 80%They also buffed spirit resilience which was already strong as fuck* Spirit Resilience: Spirit Resistance increased from 25% to 30%While also hard buffing weapon damage/items but also nerfing other spirit items.Spirit in general got destroyed and Victor was beaten up and left to die on an alley.
>>541462287>>541462472here's a webm
>>541462636its ok M1cucks have such a poor grasp of the game they dont think they were buffed much this patch :)
>>541462560Dynamo isn't even affected by the global cc nerf because you can't resist his CC whatsoever. Works on Mo though.
There's no way that the airdash parry shit stays in the game rightJust watched someone fly through rejuv parrying doing it and parried everybody trying to hit it despite being no where near the crystal
* Paige: Anal hair density increased from 75% to 80%*Paige: Pussy hair density reduced from 70% to 68%I'm okay with this change but kind of feels like it won't make much difference at higher ranks.
>>541462772wait whatgive me the bogdanoff quick rundown
>>541462004A miserable pile of portals
>>541462914because they removed the delay on actions after jumping, you can immediately jump, airdash, and parry, whilst carrying all of the momentum from the airdashit's incredibly broken
>>541398541im so dogshit at this game why won't they send me back to shitlow please god
there are actually people who boot up this game and say "I wanna play as Aunt Jemima"
unstoppable needs a half price version that builds into itthere's a reason why BkB is so cheap in dota
>>541463378the half cost BKB is debuff remover
A.I stop trying to lane with your butt buddy John the teams are not balanced
>>541463378blood tribute/debuff remover
>Paige is on your team>you're 100% guaranteed to losewhy does this happen?
>dynamo plays like shit for 30 minutes straight>gets a singular good blackhole>wins the game for his teamwhy does it have to be icefrog making this game, why couldn't it be literally anyone else
>>541463986my favorite variation of this is when they also have a lash and then the entire enemy starts typing like they made greats plays and a great comeback, makes me want to throw up
>12 straight losses>still won’t derank Get me the fuck outta here I am not meant to be here
>>541460109>victor players>doing obj dmg
>>541463671>the only 2 archon/phantom faggots want to lane togetherwhy are these niggers allowed
>>541462702Does this also mean that spirit resist SHRED doesn't affect his self-damage?
>>541464557Yes
>>541464292>/dlg/ are so dogshit archon is too good for them to winreal?
>>541464767pretty sure most people here are initiates
>>541463913This but Mina, she attracts the worst players with the lowest mental resilience.
>>541458579pocket is an AFAB enbie t cycling with a femboy aesthetic
>>541464847New players?
How much does Ivy weigh?
>>541464847Didn't we have ascendant players last year, wtf happened?
Need 2 more for inhouse30JZF
2 more slots30JZF30JZF30JZF>>541464847We're a rainbow of ranks. A couple of the matches are up on statlocker
>>541464951Idk what does any of that mean but you should kill yourself
>>541464963no? just bad or unable to rise up the ranks due to shit matchmaking.>>541465057there are obviously people from higher ranks, it is just that most are on lower ranks
>>541464767there is like 7 people here below ritualist
>rank 6 heroes up to above my core skill rating>core skill rating stays exactly the same>lose twice as a low rating hero>core skill rating drops truly cannot fathom the math on this
>>541465154Transphobia is not acceptable in this general.
Need 1 more30JZFSpectators ready up
>>541451434I started playing a month ago and have never made it out of Initiate 1 despite going on multiple win streaks.
we don't need more heroes, just polish the ones we havei hate seeing sinclair and vyper, i somewhat tolerate yamato but they looks like shit
>>541451593i was in archon and decayed to emissary and was doing fine. played with some bad friends and went on a loss streak. shit brought me down to alchemist and no matter how much i win and never get above alchemist 5
>>541465282>no? just bad or unable to rise up the ranks due to shit matchmaking.Initiate is for people who just installed the game though, people here can't be THAT bad surely...???
ca we please start this?
https://www.twitch.tv/vegas/clip/UnsightlyFlaccidPuffinWholeWheat-zb3OxcdLnQzyAVsTthank god we hotfixed victor bros... gun is too fair and honest to deal with it...
>team of clueless inactionable retards>say in chat "nobody talks, must be archon">our doorman responds "im not even archon"
>>541465524yamato is a nigger character for niggersher existence makes contesting midboss impossible because her ult is broken as fuck
Drifter is such a stupid gimmick hero, you either get fed in the first 10 mins or are a net negative to the team. Not even pisslow retards are walking around on their own and get out of jail cards are abundant. How is he even supposed to function anymore.Same with Victor, dps check the hero.
>>541465605Archon is like top 10% now bucko get with the times.
>>541465570some are just new and /or bad but the truth is that the ranks are absolutely fucking broken right now.I have 150 hours and most of my matches have leavers or people that are completely new.
>>541465643Nigger whatJust parry lmao
>>541465660Drifter is easy to build if you're not getting stacks early game, you just transition to an ult bot and grab duration + arcane surge + refresher.
>>541465643She does nothing past min 20. Cant wait for her remodel to bring in brainless retards to go 0/15 every game just like Mina did
>>541465660your ult bro?
>>541465748the problem isnt her meleeing, it's her sitting on the crystal for 9 seconds being able to parry anything while you can't do anything to her
Where's the EU inhouse?
>>541465643????How is she impossible to contest exactly?In a game with midboss defining characters like infernus, abrams, dynamo and kelvin how's a bkb somehow more dangerous that all this?>>541466017Parry has a cooldown, she literally cannot perma parry it.You can also just kill her or silence her before she uses ult.It also does nothing but delay it if she's just parrying.That scenario is literally just a worse kelvin ult and the exact same result can be achieved by any hero purchasing unstoppable, it's actually baffling that this one thing is what's tickling you so much.
>>541458905I don't know why you keep saying nuclear but it's not catching on
>>541466223the cooldown refreshes on a successful parry
>>541465595rejuv + 50% more farm than the enemyalso what the fuck is that skin
>>541466374www.youtube.com/shorts/eGbrCg8PZCg
>>541466564>yt sharts
>>541466378It's still not permanently active, the yamato has to basically play it absolutely perfectly and you have to fuck up and not kill her.And again this can be achieved by any hero with unstoppable.Kelvin can achieve the same result but better with ult while not needing any parry shenanigans
>>541466719the funny thing is now that rejuv is split into 3 yamato is even less of an issue compared to those alternatives
>>541466719>And again this can be achieved by any hero with unstoppable.No it can't, because unstoppable doesn't give you enough bullet and spirit resist to ignore anyone shooting youKelvin is also a nigger character so it's irrelevant.
>>541466374jesus fuck he's old>it's been 9 years since 2016>it's been 33 years since home alone 2
>we're losing pretty hard>enemy team has a clear advantage>they have a lash that's 0-6-3 though>lash gets mad and rage quits>everyone on the other team leaveshuh
>>541461598then the name jungle stays
>>541466819in non boy lobbies people have shred so a yamato standing in the middle of 6 people will explode
>>541466960and she'd have her team backing her up
did they find a way to make matchmaking even worse?
>>541407192They need to not port over random shit from doturd.
>>541466819If a yamato literally standing still and spamming parry is tanking 4-6 people shooting at her then you have bigger fucking issues.>>541467056All you have to do is delay ONE melee and her parry whiffs and she dies, wasted ult and is now a 6v5 with you having rejuvs.I don't know why initiates talk about game balance you guys are genuinely retarded.
>>541466864Damn I was 20 when he was elected and now I'm almost 30 but it feels like time never moved
>>541467176you're literally ignoring how much pressure a single ulted yamato puts on the ENTIRE enemy team during a mid fightthere is a reason why she got picked constantly and had this exact situation happen in pretty much every night shift so far
>>541465660lol what? even when getting beat in lane, it doesn't take much to farm up and get a few picks to come online and beat ass. just use discretion about when you commitunless it's a complete shitstomp across the board in which case you never had a chance regardless
>>541467281>but she was picked in tard shartsPeople watch those? lel
>>541409617And /dlg/ faggots will still complain.
>>541467281Ok, then link the examples.
yamatofag downplayers out in force
>>541467446https://youtu.be/cVLZKwJZrA4
The worst performing player on each team should just have every support cuck item bought for them automatically.Why should I have to waste my money on anti-heal and curse when some dogshitter is 2/8 at 25
why didn't they nerf Veil Walkerthis item is fucking retarded
>>541467597Every 10 minutes the two worst performing players get teleported to a small duelist arena and the other players are teleported into a spectator box and watch them fight, whoever wins gives their team an urn buff.And the current urn system is removed
>>541467597>tfw forced to buy knockdown as m1 carry because 0/11 kelvin prefers getting killed by gay talon apparently
I went back 4 ranks in 2 days, I just keep losing despite doing ok to good.
Midboss needs a complete rework.Growth over-time doesn't make people focus midboss as much as urn deliveries.Make it so it grows stronger after every kill with a fixed respawn timer, giving bigger buffs and more rejuv charges every time up to 6.It also sucks that he doesn't even have any voicelines.
>>541415191>>541415569Hitler artistically mogs every emporium submission added into tf2 past 2018
>>541467876they did but retards think it got gutted unironically, in about 2 weeks they will complain about it again
>>541467876Like everything else in this patch, they "nerfed" things just enough to make it look like they're doing something, but in reality the entire meta is largely the exact fucking same
>>541468089Am I supposed to know what that is
>>541467876* Veil Walker: Heal reduced from 150 to 85* Veil Walker: Heal scale per boon increased from 4 to 6* Veil Walker: Cooldown increased from 12s to 15s* Veil Walker: Reveal on damage duration increased from 0.25s to 0.5s* Veil Walker: Initial invis fade duration increased from 0s to 0.25s* Veil Walker: Reveal on spotted duration increased from 0.25s to 1.25sHow is this not a fucking nerf?
>>541467453I dont play yams but I think she's ass fr, only one trick nerds with double the lobby average playtime can manage to do anything
>>541468134It already had a shit winrate and now its going sub 50Stop listening to "experts"
yamato is op, i can enjoy killing everyoneyamato is underpowered, that means i have obstacles to overcomeGLORY TO SEVENTH MOON
>>541468089Hitler does fanart now ?
>>541465057I think pretty much all of us playing so we decayed to the shadow realm. I played a couple matches every now and then but since there was a month or two in between the rank kept getting lower and lower so the match quality was atrocious every single time and gave me plenty of reasons to not want to play again.Ranking up takes forever and you have to do it from fucking initiate given enough time so any returning player has little incentive to take the game seriously again, it has taken me ages to rank up just to emissary as for some reason I need a ton of wins to rank up but 1-2 losses are an instant derank, the ranked system is genuine garbage.
>>541468570>born too late to be hailed as a genius>born too early to draw furry porn>born just in time to paint walls with his brain
can you guys stop letting these threads go to like 800 or 900 posts all the time?thank you
>>541468725stopped playing*>>541468943Then make a new thread instead of complaining you retarded monkey
>>541468943what's wrong with that? makes sense to let it reach page 10 before making a new thread, no reason not to
We don't really have anything to talk about anymore, do we really need another thread?
>>541443574That's because carries have to actually aim in this game.
>win lane>rest of team are actual chimps that fed everyone>enemy team has dynamo mo&krill and doorman
ggs everyone, didn't yamato was unstopable during her ult
Another rigged inhouse game FUN
>>541469476i hookai bomba
>>541469256sure we dowhat the hell is krill supposed to be exactly
every single game i pick victor i feel like im doing super well but by the end im barely above most of my teammates. my damage is never bad but comparatively i just run around lazily farming on haze and infernus and end the game with 50k+ minimum despite not really trying.
>>541469596>>541469596>>541469596>>541469596
>>541469639Mo's friend
>>541469639Jewish sewer monkey
>>541443574Wraith, Seven, Victor are lane creeps in the early and early mid game.
>>541463913her supportive kit does nothing to compensate for her lack of damage. you need damage in this game. the hero requires a lot of communication to make use of the shields. she just attracts low impact passive players with bad aim.
>4 pauses before rollout
>>541452701That small period when we had ranked queue with zero stackfaggotry was some of the best Deadlock I've ever played.
>>541457883You have to max it for AoE. It only petrifies on direct hit.
>>541468943whats stopping you from making a new thread you annoying faggotthis game attracts people that whine but dont do anything like moths to a flame I do not understand
>glitched through the roof of the training roomThis game fucking needs custom maps so bad. When you're above the training room the wood beams in the ceilings are entirely visible so it looks like you're up in the rafters, and when I saw it I just knew that you can spend 2000 hours just playing stupid custom maps just like in all other source games. Imagine a map that's just a huge bell tower or something and you take fall damage from falling too far, the movement in this game is so good and the ability/item gameplay can be turned into anything like a wc3 custom map. On top of that the universe is just amazing and we DESERVE to see more of it.
>>541473835You can make custom maps already, go ahead
>djinn's mark has a 45m range limit>except this is only for the initial application, and once he has 1 on you he can just plink from across the map to stack itnigger character for 3rd worlders
