[PoE2 News]>Patch Notes3.1 hotfix: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/38629993.1: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/38622133.0: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3826682>FAQhttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3827171[PoE1 News]>Patch 3.26 - Secrets of the Atlashttps://www.pathofexile.com/secrets>Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3787013>Patch 3.27 Release Datelol, lmaoPrevious thread: >>541275283
Why didn't they fix 0.3.1 before the weekend?
FAT CRAP 2
BFR's ARPG will be a real-time deckbuilderThen-adult gen Alphas will instantly perish under the friction
>>541370907they've been cooking SO hard god why can't you let them spend some time with THEIR FAMILIES AND LVODE ONESYOU FRICKIN FRICK THEY HAVE A HOLIDAY SOON THEY CAN'T PATCH IT NOW OH MY SCIENCE
>>541371012
>>541370907poe2 is staying in this shitty poop state until 0.4 which will be january 15 2026no refunds no flushing
I was excited to play this weekend, but after an hour on the new patch I think I'll go outside or something
why did they have to ruin the game? i liked 0.3
>>541371114>until 0.4 which will be january 15 2026Oh god oh fuck that's hilarious
>>541371170poe1 players cried too hard
how long until Jonathan Rogers makes a video about how they had to pull all their develops off of PoE1 to get 0.3.2 out the door and as a result 3.27 is being delayed until December?
[SAD NEWS] Jonathan Woodful Roger's had to mortgage his roomwide tub to fund 0.3.1.1
>>541371307>Further building animosity on both sidesWould he do that? Is he dumb enough or malicious enough to do that?
How did GGG blunder this badly?
>0.1>undercooked>phrecia>undercooked>0.2>undercooked>2.36>undercooked>0.3>undercookedI'm noticing a pattern here.
>>541371582This is the man that said in a prerecorded video that he didn't realize taking all the devs off PoE1 would result in no work being done on PoE1.
>>541370817I unironically look like that
Okay but when is that Grim Dawn expansion dropping? Need an excuse to do a full campaign run again.
What does my lilygf have to say about the patch
What went wrong with .3.1 that has you sperging? Wasn't it just tower removal which everyone wanted anyway?
>>541371205another victory for poe1GODS
we're skipping the poo1 league btw
>>541372113
>>541372113tower removal was supposed to result in a better endgame but somehow we got something worse
>raw mapping is borderline worthless for making currency>ground drops are usually worthless because they can't come with specific meme modifiers from certain mechanics>only reliable option is to sink all your resources into one league mechanic and ignore the rest>otherwise you just have to flip on trade like a chinkFinally the TRVE Path of Exile 1 sequel I've always hoped for. Thank you, fatfuck.
>>541372043>full campaign runyou'll stop needing that when you remember how much walking through big empty areas of nothing is in the game
>>541372197TRVKE
>>541372136You can't skip something you never even played in the first place, 2rist.
>>541372239but enough about poe2
>>541372239I like big maps, I like exploring them.
>>541372239Anon assumedly has played PoE2, he's fine. Plus if you really just ignore everything else, you can just run from waypoint to waypoint with no real issue. Maps are generally "static" so you can memorise them. Malmouth can be a pain to navigate though.
holy fuck i didn't even know this was a thing
I must say. I (and I thought many others) were having an overall positive & fun time with the updated 0.3.1 endgame. However, I might be a tad off-base here. So I ask you all: are you enjoying PoE2's new endgame system? Remember, it's receiving MORE CONTENT in 0.4. If you're not, I'd love to read the reason why, I think many of us are in agreement there's too much punishment for dying (in Softcore), is there anything else that stands out to you? Stay sane, exiles!
>>541372502>you can just runno you can just walk. well you have a movement skill with a 2-4s cd iirc. but really, just fucking walk. how many times i've played that game up to old arkovia, then I come out the other side and remember how much fucking walking to get through this stupid fucking valley designed specifically to just take fucking forever and I uninstall
>he is a jingakh
>>541372502I actually fucking love how much of a slog Malmouth is with all the verticality and areas crossing back and forth over each other. What a fucking shithole.
>>541372671Only time I did endgame was in 0.1It needs time to cookPost more cropped porn to unlock the rest of the review
>>541372734>Was about to say "Your movement skills">Remember that some classes don't have one and the equip versions are stuck in the DLCThey should make those easier to get.
>>541372671>too much punishment for dyinghow about not dying?
>>541372671This nails it: >>541372197
>>541372671Why does this post come off as so HARD
>>541371656phrecia was undercooked but it was kinoit had soul
>Last Sleepoch is still -$20 million in the hole despite being a massive hit>Poop 2 has made $400 million in 10 months despite being a steaming pile of tub doo dooMake it make sense.
>>541373595playing last epoch makes me wish it was monday tomorrow
>>541373595One of them spent more money on streamers.
hold me poch bros...
>>541373943You make a good point actuallyRemember in the big "hype" lead-up to Sleepoch's last patch where they were straight up paying big name PoE streamers just to interview the devs? fuckin lol
>>541374646>The interviewee's trying their best not to laugh at Holly's voice changerYe, I 'member.
I am about to say some of the blacklisted words:n-wordt-wordr-wordf-wordj-wordk-word
>>541374995bro your l-word?
am I retarted if I don't know what a jingakh is
>>541374738somebody post this to the poo2 reddit
>can't say the s-word because its not in the game yet
Lily's getting chunkyIt's like the gother she gets the fatter she gets
>>541375610retard
>>541375348Israel?
>>541375765SWIT
honest blizzard should just patent the concept of killing enemies that give loot
>>541376516>she
>>541372671Honestly, I've never liked the atlas tree setup where each league mechanic has its own tree and I think it makes even less sense now that they don't naturally spawn on the atlas 'deterministically'. In PoE 1, it felt like you customized the tree to whatever you wanted, in PoE 2, it feels like you get everything buffed with an illusion of choice.I have to say, I do like the removal of towers and I hope they actually do have meaningful end game content.
>Last Epoch announcement>We know the burning question is “Will the expansion have any cost associated with it?” To set expectations, the answer is “maybe.”They don't even have the full 12 chapters, ffs.
>>541378020you will pay for each chapter too nigger
>>541378020I thought Ancient Era was considered Chapter 10?
>>541378020nigger they need ebitda
>redditard dev team>instant sellout>backstab usersThe game was dead in the water being unity slop to anyway.
>>541378869ebitda dn
>>541378897rofl
How did Chris predict the future, the worst outcome, while at the same time creating that future outcome unknowingly after leaving? crazy timeline.https://youtu.be/mcd9BfVw7hQ?si=kVVwG6GflnKtZKVX&t=3245:24>it's also hard for a sequel to compete with the amount of content and features that the original game has.>so imagine if we released path of exile 2, and it was just a bare campaign with none of that extra content.
>>541379092Because despite being a Bald Fat Retard he actually understands game development.
>>541379092im glad they split the two games path of exile 2 deserves it, its better than poe1 mechanically it just needs the content thats it
>>541379092
>>541379318lol
>>541379318So do you just reply to everything with the contrarian opinion?
>>541379263kek
Has anyone tried the +40-50% kurgal quiver bonus prefix? Is it better than the companion damage one with a good quiver?
>>541379494if poe2 had all the skill gems poe1 had and they reworked them all in the way the rest of the skill gems are in poe2 the game would be beyond fucking god tier and you know it, that means its lacking content thats it, its better than poe1 it just needs content
Do you guys ever think transformations will be put into poe 1 or will it forever only be in poe 2?
>If PoE 2 was just PoE 1 it'd be good I'm glad we're all able to finally come to this conclusion
heist is coming back in act 5
>>541381225sorry tullina, viper napuatzi is my waifu now
>>541381225nice find>Act 5Reward: [DNT-UNUSED] Blighted Core Bomb[DNT-UNUSED] Search for a Blighted Blockage.Blight too?
Metamorph my beloved... come home to me.
>>541378883where's the penis
>>541382021In your ass faggot.
>>541382456h-hot...
>>541381772>nice find>>Act 5>Reward: [DNT-UNUSED] Blighted Core Bomb>[DNT-UNUSED] Search for a Blighted Blockage.>Blight too?
>>541384484i look like this
>>541379746The fundamentals of the game are worseCope, seethe, dilate
>>541370817Imagine if Ephemeral Edge made it in POE2
its got one more mod left on it, whats worth doing on it? whats it worth?
>>541385401I don't like that ES doesn't overlap your health orb anymore. I hate that stupid little fucking gauge for it, it was COOL seeing it slowly subsume more and more of the orb.
>>541385753agreed. they will probably jew it up and sell that as mtx desu
>>541384975we are in 0.3 of a unreleased game its not even 50% complete 1.0 this game is going to be god tier
>>541385575>no +3I'll give you 2c for it
>>541385575It's not a good amulet. Just slam it.
I don't understand why you people are complaining. You constantly tell me that the game is only supposed to be played for a week once every 3 or 4 months. You already got your week of playtime, why should it matter what state the game is in now before the next league?
>>541384484I do this in my free time
>>541387172because this general has actual players for about one week prior to each league start and the rest of the time it's just doomfags screeching at doomfags
>>541387548I doom and I play. GOML
>>541381505my queen
>>541387638No one has ever played poe2, it's all just pretend.
>poo2>diablo 4>last epoch>titan quest 2>whatever the chinks and gooks got or are working on>countless smaller indie gamesI don't want to sound ungrateful but I would really like to maybe take a short trip out of isometric hell at some point... Why does killing hordes of monsters, lots of randomized loot, and deep RPG mechanics have to always be in isometric view. and what ever happened to MMO'sidk maybe I'm just talkin to myself here
>>541387817If you want a non-isometric ARPG just play Borderlands or Destiny. Maybe the mobile game for Destiny I heard it's actually mogging Destiny 2.
>>541387817We're just in a deep creative rut in general. Humanity doesn't have much to aspire to these days. New generations aren't experiencing life the same way we did. All they know how to do is copy what came before. It leads to an endless rehashing of the same ideas with very little new inspiration. I think we're stuck with this for a while.
>>541381225can't wait to see how jonathan somehow manages to make heist more annoying
>>541388020we have sprint now, this was always planned from the start you are in his domain faggot you think they made sprint as a reaction? they made you react to no sprint to add the sprint ggg is 10 moves ahead
>>541388740what the FUCK... jonathan, I kneel...
>>541389045>sprint >get hit by a guard>heist failed lmfao
>>541387817Here are a couple of non isometric loot based ARPG's>Borderlands 2 with BL2Fix to skip cringe cutscenes and dialogue along with fairer loot drop rates + farming features.>Nioh 2 if you want more of an action based combat (though loot and autistic build minmaxxing only matters after NG++++)
Melee is so fucking ass in this game at T15+
>>541387817sis your megabonk?
What do we think of Dwarven Realms? Just saw it in my steam recs.
>>541389751going fast with calcium feels almost as good as playing flicker strike
>>541389705*mace
>>541389996no, mace is actually good (its not actual melee)
>>541389896played it on launchmindless fun for a while but depth is whatever, basic asset flip arpg in the end
>>541387817>Why does killing hordes of monsters, lots of randomized loot, and deep RPG mechanics have to always be in isometric viewidk maybe ask the guy who cries about an arpg with no swords why there have to be swords in an arpg? people are generally very shallow and just want the comfort of the same thing over and over again, so that's what companies sell.
>>541390119I guess for 6 dollarydoos it could be fun for a few days.
>>541390510yeah it was cheap and is probably on sale right now, gameplay was more akin to vampire survivor stuff so its a very serene number go up game
Breaches got hit really hard by the pack nerf in a lot of maps. In those maps they're back to how they were at 0.2 launch before they upped the density because they were so bad.
Hey, guys! Look at my [shit build] using the underrated [shit skill no one even knew existed]!as you can see HH is doing the clear I could fart on the monsters and they would still die the same, and for single target you say? *whips out Last Lament* here you go, build of the year! please like and subscribe to my patreon.
>>541392124>no constricting commandoffmeta
>>541392124>HH is doing the clearthis nigga has never owned hh in his life
>poch going the paid expansion route after guaranteeing to early backers no such thing would happenhow does ggg keep winning?and they do it for free?
>>541392346tencent accepted losses in order to gain market dominance before slowly raising the temperature and greediness
They never said it would be paid thoughbeit
>>541392265he owned the based poo1 version
>>541392346>>poch going the paid expansion routethat's a hard fucking pass holy shittheir gook overlords must be a lot dumber than ggg's chink overlords
>>541393378retard
headhunter gives me the ick
We got async trade after years of thinking it would never happen, when are we going to get campaign skip?
>>541395236in the same amount of time it took for GGG to cave in for async trade, so another 12 years.
>>541395236probably not before 1.0 but they are probably thinking about ways to implement it
so i get everyone's crying about crafting, my question is, since crafting in its current state BECAUSE of abyss, and abyss is only temp, what are they going to do going forward? remove half the crafting shit we got right now for the rib/jaw/desecration etc?
>>541395926you're a retard if you think Abyss is temp. it'll be added like any other mechanic to the shit tree, you just won't have as easy access to the mats so it'll be tougher to farm. only crafters will care about abyss investment. the rest of us? heh...we'll be blasting the new league mechanic chump. just wait till they scrap tablets for scarabs. ground loot will be FUN AGAIN. WE WILL BE JUICING LIKE NEVER BEFORE!
>>541396164>you're a retard if you think Abyss is temp. it'll be added like any other mechanic to the shit tree, you just won't have as easy access to the mats so it'll be tougher to farm.fair. this sentence alone just slapped me in the face like oh yeah this same shit happened with poe1, league mechanics stayed it'll just have to get target farmed like with harvest
>>541396273now im wondering how the fuck are they going to do it, add abyss tablet since we dont have an atlas to spec into? holy fuck thats gay
>>541396617think of the most tubbed "solution" possible and prepare yourself for it to be magnitudes worse than that
>campaign skipthey're invested enough in the campaign that they're willing to animate new cutscenes and record dialogue for obvious placeholder shit like the interludespoe1 still does not have acts skip after a decade despite the back half being 95% reused assets with barely anything resembling a plotplease explain to me the retarded niggerlogic that makes you think they're going to add a campaign skip to poe2
What is the most heterosexual build this league?
damn... megabonk kinda is more fun than mapping.........
>>541385753another change for the sake of change
>>541397475very low bar
Is it too late to get 36/40 challenges in poe1? Haven't even started.
>>541397947nawstill got an entire month
>>541397978How long would you say it normally takes?
>>541398574a month or less
>>541370817DOG SHIT OF EXILE 2NO CONTENT OF EXILE 2NO DRUID OF EXILE 2
is it even worth picking up rare equipment anymore?they feel pointless
part of me wants to reinstall 1 for challengesbut am i really going to sink 50+ hours into a game for cosmetics in a different game that nobody will see and i probably won't use
>>541400198what else you gonna do with your time
POOP OF EXCREMENT TWO
I miss Spiral Knights.
poowunners vs poo2ers
>>541400634i need a poe2 gf who looks like that.
>can't attach rage gem to my lightning spear skillgay as fuck game
>>541395236>campaign skipimagine doing maps from lvl1 for shit loot, why would you want this?
>>541395825>imagei hate normgroids so fucking muchdie die die
>>541400198dont the cosmetics work in poe2?
>>541401571why can't it be like this instead?
kys troon
>fully juiced maps>3 well modded tablets>160% item rarity on gear>only 20-30 ex in loot each mapThey killed the fucking atlas. As soon as you run out of your old overlapped areas there's no point in playing it unless you want to look for hideout unlocks or throw your currency away.
>>541400616many things i could do with that time>>541403420yes but that's what i'm saying
>>541387817>and what ever happened to MMO'sdepends on what you grew up with. theme park mmos like wow? good news, every single mmo out there is a theme park mmo you retard."actual" mmos where the player form the world? a lot of the more popular ones are still playable on fan servers.imitations of "actual" mmos? survival crafting games like conan exiles on private servers, or some of the more retarded shit like gmod rp or gta fivem rp
>>541403451baggots
i will do dis da kadoowee way
>>541403853>every single mmo out there is a theme park mmoWoW and XIV are the only ones still alive and I'm not even sure if you can call WoW alive. There's GW2 too but it's barely more of an MMO than Warframe.
LOLLMAO EVENPOOP OF EXCREMENT TWO
>>541397947If you focus you can probably get 40/40 especially since the endgame grind this league is pretty easy.Iirc, the ones you should lookout for are the infamous exiles, mercenary exclusive mods and you should do the new end game bosses since you need a few of the new orbs.
>>541405707wow isn't alive? I thought it is, but it's just dogshit (as it always was). if you just want to run around with a big group of people (or occasionally small group instances) doing tab combat all day, you can also try the warhammer RoR private server.
Seems like all they did was make rarity even more of an issue now that quant was nerfed. Since you have less chances to roll for better drops you just need the best rolls possible every single time to get the most out of your maps. The soft cap of 150% on gear is probably more important than ever
>>541409627retard
>>541409627rarity and quantity are memes, if you want to make money you craft and trade, not farm
>>541406839I unironically cannot make myself play an alt on this league. I never player Poo1 but most of my buddies are now playing it for some reason.
>>541411095unironically? on god? for real?
Poo2 is a tranny game made for trannies by trannies.
>>541403451post the rest
Stupidest thing you did in your playthrough?
>>541412847what a faggot poo2rist
Graphics and overall mobility are the only good things about Poo2
>>541412886>mobility in a game without mobility skillsnigga what?
Am I doomed to play SSF to enjoy this game?
>>541412886>GraphicsThey look good until shit hits the fan and your fps drops to 10
>>541412847paying 30 israeli dollars for poo2 was my biggest mistake
>>541412886>mobilityme when i frostblink -> leap slam/shield charge/whirling blades through levels at mach 10 instead of holding the button to sprint for slightly faster ms at the cost of getting kneecapped if a mob sneezes at me
>>541412963Dodging boss attacks using the space-bar to roll and the sprinting functionality are good. But I will admit that sprinting is poorly designed now.
>frostblink -> leap slam/shield charge/whirling blades through levels at mach 10slop.
>>541413419what if you had a skill called frostblink that you could use to dodge boss attacks>>541413457cope!
is Ahn's Citadel support a world drop? I can't seem to find reliable info about this.
is this the most useless socketable in the game?you can't even go above 3 charms and you get one for free in the campaign then just buy a belt that has 2
>>541413985STOP THINKING! START CONSOOMING
>>541413985its worth even less than 1 exalt kek
>>541413985hundreds of build enabling socketables
>>541413457NOOOOO YOU CANT HAVE FUN IN YOUR VIDEOGAME
>>541414225artificial fun isnt fun
perma rhoa mount exploit still unpatched. deadeye la chads cant stop winning
>>541412847in every single playthrough, I run straight in monke's first slam with unfathomable precision
>>541414509let them cook
>>541414408using movement skills to zoom around is the purest form of fun there is
>>541413985the sockets really need an unified system, I fucking hate that shitthe worst part is making a stash tab with socketable affinity, only for the game to slam tablets into it too
What's the average DPS one should have in PoE 1 by the end of Act 10 and up to tier 6 maps? My character is nigh invincible and able to facetank the vast majority of things, but I feel like my damage has suffered for it and I can't kill regenerative monsters or any mercenaries that have health regen.
we need more movement mechanics possibly even movement support gems. something like double jump support, super jump, airdash, double airdash, circle/strafe jumps, dashes like in ut.
>>541415081just give every class 1-2 dodge roll gems with some that can phase through enemies and some that are damaging or jumps
>>541414509I dont know, I literally just died 3 times in a row to being stunned off it
>>541414651wrong.
>>541415190I mean they promised ways to change dodge roll mechanics. The 0.5m dodge roll distance makes such a big difference with the way dodge roll pathing currently works. The roll autopaths around corners and shit. We need more stuff like that.
new kino just dropped poe 1 is saved we are so back
>>541412968No, you can play normal as well with how little people play trade makes almost no difference
>>541414541>see monke and rolling fags>keep walking
>>541379318>>541379746>>541386074PoE2 is an irredeemable piece of shit.
>>541416497fact bomb
>>541412847played PoE 2
>>541416497cope
>>541416497just 2 more updates and it will be good
Noob hereHow much % armor mitigation should I aim for? Right now I'm at 73% at lvl 90I've heard you get dimishing returns so maybe I should stop at 70% and instead try to add more flat HP and perhaps some evasion? (I have none at the moment)Playing lightning spear ritualist btw
>>541416729There'll be a lot of raging here once they finally add RF and cyclone and they both suck, just you wait.
>>541416927You should be playing an armour stacker and get at least 4M armour.
>>541416927the % value is misleading, refer to this chart, most endgame high physical damage hits top out at 2k at most, xesht slams are ~4k
>>541417052neato, thanks
remember when poe2 ea started in december and the entire gear acquisition process was picking up an item and transmute aug regal exalt exalt exalt slamming it
imagine accepting rollslop
rollslop is good albeito algo
how do you get higher tier maps now that every map has a boss?they only drop tier 1 maps
poo 2 is rancid goy slop
>>541416927>I've heard you get dimishing returnsYou heard wrong, it works the opposite way, it gets better the more you have.
BIG SHIT 2HUGE STINK
>>541413419The dodge roll doesn't really help you dodge anything, it only adds a very short burst of speed to your character, followed by a slowdown for a net 0 difference if you would have walked.
it just feels good to click dodge roll.
So they even did completely unnecessary changes to maps like Augury which already flowed well and in turn also gutted the amount of monsters but left trash maps like Hidden Grotto still being a pile of shit that you either have to do 2 laps around running along the outer and inner ring or zig zag the entire time like a rat labyrinth. Absolutely baffling patch
>>541417052Does PoE1 work the same way?
>>541379092weird how that one turned out.poo2 is dogshit and will stay dogshit.
>>541420356did they change sun temple
TWO GAMESBOTH SHIT
Prior to this patch, I was averaging 1 div per map. Now, no matter what I do, stack quant, stack rare monsters, stack rarity, hell stack all 3, it feels awful. I've found 1 raw div in the last 14 maps that are juiced to the gills.
>>541379092>imagine if we did this shit, that'd be so retarded of us lol>proceed to do exactly the shit they said they wouldn't dothanks jonathan tubshitter
We all get fooled by the big streamers and how easy it is to craft/farm/ but in real life, the game is like hardcore on its own. I hope one day the game is easier to play so we can eventually get to the so-called "END GAME" ever...
>>541421681it's kinda easy for both poe1 and poo2: just stop being a shitter and start doing what's good
>>541421494Welcome to the tub.
Serious question: If you aren't destroying everything on the screen = build broken?
>>541421842yeah your build should be able to scale to that point
>>541415243>equip minion mastery with rhoa>mount rhoa>open your support gem window and unequip minion mastery>game unmounts you>put back minion masterynow you can sprint, roll, attack while moving all while keeping the 15%ms buff without being able to get staggered out of the mount. I dont understand why they keep this as a feature since people reported it weeks ago.
>>541421842>he doesn't destroy things offscreenshit build
>>541421329I just ran one and its still the same
>>541417703I rememberNow I don't even pick up gear
>>541421842i destroy things outside the screen (not offscreen, on the other side)
>>541421842I broke my screen because the game is so shit I'd rather touch grass
>Kulemak's Invitation gone up in price again
>>541422826its still 1 kulemak invitation for 1 kulemak invitation on my machinet. SSFgod
JONATHAN ROGERSHIRETHISMAN!!!!!!!!!
>>541379092Still think the hate was deserved. We had no way of knowing that Jonatroon would be significantly worse.
>>541422471thats genuinely hilarious. i checked the patch notes pre release and thought that surely they just forgot to mention that sun temple got removed or somethingwhat an absolute shit map
>>541423150>poe 1 still generates revenue>people put in 15 years of work into it>just shut it downsmart move ngl
HEY
>>541423541poe1 can barely crack 100k players on league starts lil guptayour "game" is a waste of dev resources
TROONATHAN ROGERS
YOUR GAME
BIG SUCCESS
>>541423742game is in maintenance mode for years now. they have like 3-4 people maintining the game nowadays. some of the recent leagues were done by a single person. ggg currently has 150+ employees. what resources are you talking about lil bro.
REAL TUB SHIT
IS A BIG SHIT
>>541423926actual unironic retard
>>541420356Augury was never a problem. The issue was the 5 second lever animation that was already addressed months ago. But fucking hidden grotto has always been the most fucking dogshit map and it will never change
Why does he shit in a tub?
PATHOFEOS
2
>>541424087not an argument + you are brown
worst general
0.3.1 killed the game
nerf ES
>>541425538see >>541424087
TUBBED GAMETUBBED GENERAL
>>541425428works on my HCSSF machine
>>541425428what was the reason for them removing the rare monster markers on the minimap?
>>541424513years of living under BFR's shadow made unable to use normal toilets
My rituals feel worse post patch
>>541425759retard
I love chasing cleansed zones instead of towers except now I don't get the benefits of towers
thread is so much better after filtering out all of the faggots and trannies gotta say. You zoomers are so bitch made its insane. How did you become so estrogen laced?
Cant wait for my lily gf to stream later
[[VERITY TSVNAMI INBOUND]]/poeg/ should be moved to /vm/ to make room for a better general (like megabonk)
>>541426297I'd call you a retard before 0.3.1 but now I can only say TRVKE
>>541426060social media + mobile phones
>>541425953>>541426137its additional content on boss mapsall other additonal content markers are still on the minimap
see like i can tell someone just posted something either homosexual or trans related, but since i have all relevant words and images filtered i am completely immune to their retardation. It's incredibly refreshing. poeg is actually readable now
>>541423742good morning sir
>>541426491Thanks for reminding me they giga stealth-nerfed the rate at which extra content can appear on maps
>>541426060this thread has never had anything to offer 1 month in to a league you fucking retard
Do ritual tablets drop anymore?
>announcing filtersgrimdire even
jonathan made 0.3.1 dogshit on purpose so less people complain when poe2 gets cancelledthats right, its poe2 that will get cancelled they will port the poe2 models back to poe1 and give it an optional high quality mode and then they will simply delete poe2 from existencepoof
>towers provide increased vision and drop a tabletuh ok can they do something more fun or useful
brosi dont think they are working on 0.3.2
>>541426917you need the atlas point that spawns 2 additional packs on the ritual
My loot seems worse now
>>541427154What would I even despec to take that.
>make new character>reach endgame>stop playingI didnt even bother with 3rd and 4th ascendency
>>541427309>reach endgamewhat endgame? lol
>>541427309me but 5 times this league
poo2 stink bad
Is it a requirement that every poe 1 league mechanic be made worse in poe 2?
>>541427270the setup i was using was>50% cheaper defer (required)>more omens obviously>+2 packs for more tablets and a bit more tribute when they get revived maybe>+1 reroll get some cheaper defer cost from tablets, i guess either 1 good one or 2 bad ones depending on how much shit you already have deferred and a tablet with more omen chance maybe
>>541427505its probably a requirement that they make it different and when you differ from perfection the only outcome is getting worse
>>541370817What killed the hype?
>>541427713
>>5414277133.27 and not 4.0
on the edge of EOS, my league races... i am ALIVE (for a weekend, at most)
>>541427539Running without the guaranteed 4th ritual was awful. It felt like over half the maps only had 3 rituals
>>5414277130.3.1. somehow missed the mark
>>541388020the stealth mechanics that were in on launch are coming back. bestiary is coming back too, with player nets, where you have to carefully manage beast HP or you kill it before you can catch it
>>541427713game bad. no content. no fun skills. no end game chase. no speed.How they expected a game to survive when you can't enter into a flow state while mapping is beyond me. Gameplay is far too fucking jarring and slow. I'd rather play fucking ESO than this shit
>>5414277130.3.1. I was actually enjoying myself in 0.3
>>541428359>no fun skills>no speedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeDEY1vm44s
>>541428568yeah that shits fucking jank have you actually played it?
>>541428568>didnt immediately beeline to the divnice rmt build fag
>>541428692no but it looks cool
>be white>brownoids call you pigskinthey are seething
>>541428764try it. It's not smooth at all. You need like 6 6links. You need top end gear or you won't generate enough energy for your skills to go off. If you whiff with pietys mercy you stand around with your dick in your hand. It requires you to numlock a spellslinger ball lightning at all times so you cant be comfy and use a controller. The game is just incredibly fucking jank. More jank than poe1 and thats a feat let me fucking tell you.
>>541428568Literal clickbait I love how there is absolute retards posting in the bugs forum about they dying with those shit fucking regen builds that get you down to 1hp and you have no fucking resists just because their streamer told them they are immortal
>>541428568poo2rist
Hello does this game have loot?
>>541428858tr/a/nny
>>541429408i got a rakiata's that was about it
>>541429408it did have loot, but that was a bug that has recently be fixed so i am happy to tell you that we are now loot-free
I have gone 20 maps without a single ritual tablet drop
>>541428130trvke
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS WHERE IS THE SHIT IN MY TUUUUUUUUUUB?
I'm pretty new to the game, recently tried to farm maps to no avail, seriously it's way too expensive and too much hassle to go through all those steps yet the results is still unrewarding. Switched to trial of chaos and out of my 5 runs, it dropped me 2 soul cores of Jiquani which I traded for 12 divines. Maybe I was lucky but honestly I found this method much more reliable and much cheaper than doing maps. it's also fast and you can always control the mods. This is all the loot I get in one run with the cost of 1 vaal orb, the downside to it is it could be pretty boring repeating the same stuffs.
They are too arogant to admit their mistakes and revert the patch untill they fix/rework it! 65 pages with negative comments and not a single statement! Thats speak more than enough! Clearly they dont give a shit about player but only for their money!1. No ballance between HP/ Evasion and ES ... last update new record 225k ES2. Bosses are one shoted or you are one shoted ... no ballacnce3. No combat log ...when you die ... you cannot recieve any info what should you improove to stop dying in future..... so many things are bad but GGG dont wanna listen their players! They listean few PoE streamers and they conver PoE2 into PoE1 in a slow way!Just dont waste more time and just put a new engine and graph on poe1 and call it PoE2.
>>541430125i did ritual for 30 maps yesterday. it jsut hit me, i didnt get one either what the fuck?
>>541429408Going from my pre-juiced tower maps to untouched ones and I immediately could tell a difference
>>541430415>No combat log ...when you die ... you cannot recieve any info what should you improove to stop dying in futureThere is also no visual cue as to what even hits me.Most of the time when I see my life go down I don't even know why.
>>541430125>>541430445>stealth nerfs omen appearance rates>indirectly nerfs tribute gained by reducing pack size>lowers tablet drop rates to laughable levels I get it Jonathan you don't like ritual
>>541430861He hates you having an (((EASY))) time progressing in his SLOG SIMULATOR
This trade season is unironically already over, isn't it?
I miss having multiple shrines and strongboxes in my maps bros
>>541431207bro it's been over a month, if you haven't done everything by now you're a dadgamer and should swap over to singleplayer games
>>541430861>stealth nerfs omen appearance ratei was doing the double reduction cost so it wasnt super gay to get what i wanted, switched to +65% omens after not seeing any, still didnt see any>indirectly nerfs tribute gained by reducing pack sizei didnt feel this one so much as i was getting 4-5k with how much i was juicing, but thats still lower than normal but reduction cost made it fine to roll with>lowers tablet drop rates to laughable levels i didnt see a single one. pre patch i was getting like one a map
>>541431281I just want to play an alt. The Market prices are so high that I feel like I have to get orbs with real money now.
>>541415464Its so odd Chris pivoted to making Youtube videos. I assume he's rich, atleast 30ish million i'd guess. Does he want to become some ARPG consultant or is he just in it for the love of the game / fame
>>541431406>>541430861I was seeing at least one to two juicy omens a day pre-patch. Now the best I've seen is the homo regal omen. The lack of tablet drops is kicking my ass hard on SSF. I'm on track to have zero ritual tablets within the next hour and I haven't seen one for two days
>>541429408I ran a ton of 400% rarity + rare monster annointed maps last night that didn't break even on the juicing cost. Even running the new quant tablets is just as bad so farming is just fucked. Buying expedition tablets and running them unironically will make you more money per hour than mapping right now. It's so late into the league too that the profit point on crafting gear is low. It's unironically over until next the next league.
>>541428568this genuinely looks like shit
>>541431207yeah i bought a relatively ok wand at the start of the league and i ran it through the trade website today there is no better wand available for me lol
>>541430125>>541430445did they nerf the drop rates in 0.3.1? that doesnt even make sense
>>541431442retard
>>541432138It's not in the notes but playing the last three days the difference is obvious
Still puzzled at them catering to these reddit dad gamers that want to run through half empty maps with no loot drops. Why are they even playing an ARPG? I cringe when I see these motherfuckers saying that they're "having a blast" with this patch
>>541432138yeah they did, it may have been to balance agaisnt the tablet """""buffs"""""" but i dont see omens or tablets anymore. you used to see omen of corruption like it was a joke, i didnt even see one of those yesterday
>>541432383>go on steam forums>some jeetbot is defending the lack of a death logthis is the audience they chose
ambiguous deaths are poe culture, deal with it 2rist
ahah
The pooe2 gem system is a complete failure.
>>541432383they could bring back meatsacks or something and make some mob packs take a while to kill if they want to add le meaningful combat back to mapping
>be 0.3 enjoyer>still playing when 0.3.1 drops>play 0.3.1>not enjoying game anymore>quit playing gamesimple as
>>541433495UNANIMOUS ANIME CORRECTQUAKE
I've played for almost 300h and only noticed that I lose XP when I die. Why do that? Who is the target audience? Hardcore exists for masochists. Let the softcore players just enjoy the game, I play this to relax from real life job, not to prove a point that I'm some kind of cybersport athlete. Uninstalled just because of this
>>541433693Go back to D4, chump.
>>541433241>Not capping whichever you happen to have available to match your character's levelThere are so many wrong things with this game I don't even know where to begin.>>541433495My biggest issue with the game is this retarded gem system. They pretty much admitted defeat the moment they allowed multiple repeated support gems.
Trvke.
megabonk won
>>541433241>>541433495Why is there no ingame vendor that sells you uncut gems
>>541433928This but with jeweler orbs
>>541433495spirit too>lol you can get the poe equivalent of +125% rmr with a chest prefix + amulet prefix + amulet implicit >not missing out on arrogance flat reservations and low life reservation + pain attunement is yet another advantage for ci builds, instead you get this retarded lich slop where the game just puts you on low life and turns es bypass into dr>auras are boring shit because spirit is so easy to come by
>>541433984jonnytubby wants gem drops to feel impactful
>>541433693There would be basically no penalty to dying otherwise
>>541433928100? it should be a vendor recipe with 3
0.3.1 was a mistake
>>541434120But only for those who have 40/40 in the last poe1 league.
How did we went from the best patch to this doomposting?What led us here?Please tell you your biggest issues with the game right now.
>remove the two most unanimously despised endgame systems in poe2 in one patch (rare hunting and towers)>game becomes even worsewhat does this say about path of exile 2?
>>541434313>Please tell you your biggest issues with the game right now.It's not PoE1. I just wanted an identical carbon copy with better graphics.
>>541434530
>>541434313they dont know if they should commit to the vision or half assedly port mechanics from poe1we end up with worst of both worldseither stay in the tub or give up and go full 1 game 2 campaigns mode
>>541434530>just let me play the same game with a bigger burden on my rigare you the reason that remasters are so successful? AMD may be grateful for your existence but I, for one, am grateful that you will never ever reproduce
>>541434313there's no loot and I'm dying twice as often
>>541434313Endgame is in the worst state it has ever been
>>541395825Is there a way to search my item in the market ? It is the same modifiers as my item, without manually typing them...
>>541434313Nothing meaningful to do in endgame.I want some goal to work towards that keeps me motivated.
>>541434769>AMDLol. Lmao!
>>541434641anyone has the kanade version?
>>541433495why is she looking at me like that
>>541434313This was the coolest thing about PoE1 and I hate that Poo2 doesn't have it.
I always thought I hated poe1's whole gem socketing system but poe2 feels so fucking lifeless and barren without it
add neggablood and 50 other chase uniquesadd useful corrupt implicits for uniques and a way to double corrupt so you can get the range exceeding divine + an implicitadd content 100x as difficult as the current endgame make crafting less sloppy and op but still goodadd endgame crafting aspirations like synth items and double influenced items in poe1 (dont just copy those systems it wont work but do something in the same vein)add movement skillsdelete all omens and change them to crafting bench recipes that use a common currency that currency can be divines, doesnt have to be, but it needs to be a world dropritual can stay but dont force me to run ritual to craft items its dogshit make damage passives tree 2-3x as strong so a pure damage point is ~4-5% more dps instead of ~1-2% and add life to the treeremove all the shit that is annoying and dumblike just let us right click a deli orb onto a map instead of opening a menu and clicking the orbs in for one map at a time. like are you retarded what is that abyss well, jump animation, extra walking distance to some bosses and boss spawn rp animation, delete it, its not good and its retardedadd quicksilver flask alsoremove ultimatum add an option to remove deli fog its cancer and the game looks really nice so its a shame to not see itdelete the entire atlas tree and start over, its not goodremove tablets and add scarabs thanks
didn't read
>>541435574https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw870QM1V5kthe poe2 skills used to have fixed colors as well
>>541435893still wouldn't be the same if they aren't getting socketed directly into your gear
>>541434313world map is boring without towers, having to always use 6mod maps sucks, micromanaging tablets sucksgutting towers was the worst decision they've done
>2 hand weapon>Reloading times / Switching rounds >Grenade trigger delay and cooldownsWho the fuck thought that this would be a good idea when dead-eye completely nullifies all of the issues above? Am I missing something?
3.27 delayed by a monthcope poo1shitties
>>541436045Now we get to chase cleaned zones but without the benefit of towers
>>541436308>>541436045retard
>>541436350jeet
>>541436098you do 3 times as much damage per hit to make up for it
>>541436045trvke
4 hours and 30 mins until 3.27 teaser
>>541436545>replace towers with an alternative that manages to be worseBravo GGG
>>541436045turns out poe2's whole dumbass infinite atlas is just fundamentally flawed
>>541436462No trying to be a wise-ass, but isn't that completely irrelevant? I feel like there's a useful damage cieling cap is there not? All builds have the capability do delete screens and bosses so how is that "good"?
>>541436568great i will finally be able to play shadow again
>>5414365453 of those posts are mine and i regret them. bring towers back
>PoE 1 made interesting currency items that double as crafting material>Poo 2 creates gold and now you either have way too much gold or way too littleI've never liked gold in ARPG's and I thought it was cool how PoE 1 solved the problem of gold, why did they have to introduce it in PoE 2?
>>541436545>ACK
>>541433984you couldn't buy skill gems in poo1 beta, only obtainable by quests and random drops, thusly, poo2 beta must not let you buy skill gems
>>541436446you retarded jeets were crying about towers nonstop and saying poo2 was doomed because of themnow theyre gone and poo2 is doomed because theyre goneyou're a dalit nigger
>>541436875I wasn't, was arguing with people here horny for towers to get removed....
>>541436743retard alertpoe2 crafting currency is infinitely more interesting than poo1s
>>541436098The shoot, ammunition mechanic is so lame. It feels real game devvie, like bro we need to differentiate xbows, make some annoying shit
>>541436875>dalitusing "low class indian" as an insult implies that a high class indian is any betterwhite people dont give a fuck, they just see a smelly brown niggerboy
>>541436875The alternative was implied to be an upgrade.
>>541437053seethe dalit nigger
>>541436872>Uncarved Gemstone is a currency item that, in Ruthless mode, can be traded to Siosa in the Library for a skill gem. they really tested this shit in ruthless, saw peoples reception to ruthless and were like yeah this looks good
>>541437002My point is that gold is not an interesting mechanic retard.
>>541437226SAAAAAAAAAAAR WHERE IS THE DESIGNATED SHITTING STREET SAAAAAAAAR I NEED TO DO THE NEEDFUL SAAAAAAAR
>>541437351yeahyou're maximally fucking braindead retarded
>>541436098>>541437042https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU7mLtj7nxUIt used to be even more different. There were 3 types of crossbows that you had to weapon swap. And only one grenade slot that you put where the quiver is.
At his point they might as well just get rid of the atlas entirely and upon opening up a map at the map device just give a choice of 3 maps 1 of which you will choose run while also supporting the 3 spaces for the tablets to further that they can add 4 or maybe 5 spaces. The whole map atlas and node interface is just eye candy and huge waste of space on the servers now, a past refection of stupidity. Might as well have a whole new interface upon opening the mapping device that deals with whats left of the mapping system. The interface can also have tabs for waystones, tablets splinters etc... so there is no need to run back and forth to stash.
>>541437491B-but your citadels
>>541437421I'll accept your concession.Retard.
>>541436626troonathan is fundamentally flawed
>>541437609Easy, sometimes one of the 3 choices of map is just a citadel
Stop retarding please
>>541437770tr/a/nny
>>541437451When i was trying to theorycraft a solution to xbows i came up with this idea, not knowing how it used to be. I think the mutiple crossbows is better.
>>541435717retard
This is the type of retard that plays poo2. He wants everyone else to suck as much as he does.
>>541438102people have been saying that about poe1 for a very very long time.
>>541438102i wouldnt mind this change one less stat to worry about
>>541438305You're equating "people" to "gigashitters that want everyone else to also be a gigashitter to not feel so bad about themselves"
>>541438102poo2 having iir affect currency drops is insanely fucking retarded especially considering how they finally got rid of iiq in poe1
>you can put 3 greater exalted orbs into the reforging bench to make perfect exalted orbsWhy are perfect exalted orbs so much more expensive?
>>541438462Nice try anon, but you cannot.
>>541438347>>541438405the redditor is advocating for players being totally unable to affect loot drops. this includes map mods, more rare monster mods, scarabs, tablets, map mods, you have it. he is a fucking retard.
magic find is chris's idea btw
0.3.1 is just a way to see how people react to the changes now that the league is basically over0.4 will fix everything
>>541438734chris's new arpg is going to have diablo 2 stamina potions and it's going to be kino
>>541438734Magic find was the idea of the D2 team you fucking tourist. MF on gear is divisive, but MF on maps and map modificators is a good and important component. Why else would you run harder maps if they weren't more rewarding?
>>541438305its in a perfect state in poe1 right now with iir being a niche stat that only benefits unique farming which is the highest difficulty content in the gameplayer iiq is trash and so is player iir affecting currency
Honestly I feel like PoE needs more actual utility skills. Something like Flashbang grenade or actual crowd control. When 99% of your abilities and "utility" serves to deal more damage, then not only do you have less room for utility skills, but theres literally no point in utility when you one shot the whole screen. You can't have "meaningful gameplay" when you blow up whole screens. Ironically enough, the most fun I had with combo abilities was the patch was 3.11 when they first introduced the Slam tag and the warcry reworks, it was the most fun I ever had playing in PoE with my build.
>>541438962retard
poo2rists are getting mad
>>541438678hes kinda retarded but hes right that quant + rarity being so op on waystones and tablets is stupidit should really just be like poe1 where theres separate mods for currency, scarabs, maps and rarity. notice how in the current state of poe1 theres not a single scarab that just gives more generic quant for free, the closest thing are map fragments which are way too expensive for how little they add and risk scarabs which make the game way more difficult (but they are also pretty op)
>>541437770>stop retarding>posts a fucking tranny-adjacent gooner picfucking kill yourself you silly faggot
>>541439250how much does ggg pay you to moderate the forums?
>>541439390what gives you the idea that i am affiliated with grindr gear games?
>>541439250He's right though
>>541439715poo2 was never perfect, and ggg is just boiling the tourist frogs to accept the atrocious game that was 0.3 as the "good" version.
>>541439250i've played poe1 for long enough to know to instantly disregard most of these posts. >i ran one map and i didn't get mirror! before patch i get 7 mirror a map!!!!
>>541439861This is every map post update
>>541439342>gooner picwhat did he mean by this
I have run out of ritual tablets
>>541440030just run the maps with ritual icons on the atlaswait...
>>541440003find a rope and use it, tr/a/nny
replace tablets with scarabs, make it so towers and individual map nodes can slot scarabs, randomly give tabletish buffs to random sections of the map which will be like delve biomes, integrate the mini-atlases into the main atlas and add in 100x more atlas nodes
>>541438962nonono understand u need ONE button not TWO button
>>541440104why are you so mad anon
>>541437770pic stolen for future reposting
quin ai slop is so funny
>>541439931i'm run 6mod corrupted with breach/deli/irradiated. just rushing citadels and get a div every few maps, i'm not even sub 50 /remaining, just clearing to breach and then the boss.
>>541434313>poor optimization, especially abyss despite multiple patches that were supposed to improve it>atlas sucks, let me put my points wherever the fuck I want to>skill tree is way too punishing for trying to go outside of your designated areaMany complaints are simple number changes that will happen eventually, and will be reverted, then changed again, like a million times in poo1. Other complaints about content, content will come sooner or later. I'm more concerned about things that if they don't change them now they probably never will.
>>541434313>best patch on a shit game
>>541440104okay, now what?
>>541440714she needs a bigger hat
>>541440714based
Been away for a couple of leaguesIs betrayal shit now? What happened?
Why did they make ignite scale off hit damage, that's how it works right? That seems like a dumb idea.
>>541441048so its different from poe1.
>>541441048retard>>541441152retard
>>541441346brahmin post
>>541441048yes big hit plus ignite magnitude
>>541441346Johnathan please go to bed, its like 5 in the morning
>>541440714Use it on your neck and show me how you stay upright with no hands
>>541441750I was thinking, don't those metal nipple covers get really hot in the desert?
>>541372197Can someone elaborate on why this is an issue? Arent rewards/juice relative? if everyone is now getting less juiced maps and a lower net reward for mapping then what difference does it make since wealth in this game is relative?I'm a ssf player so if anything I should be the one complaining.
>>541441152precisely why. They made it shit on purpose so jonathan could feel like he "innovated" on Chris' original design. Too bad it's shit>>541441346retard
poo2 is doomed
>>541442084>if everyone is now getting less juiced maps and a lower net reward for mapping then what difference does it make since wealth in this game is relative?who the fuck cares about relative wealth people just want to kill monsters and get loot anyway the post isnt even complaining about how much loot you get, its complaining about the game being more tedious (more setup time relative to farming time)
>>541441048because it's MY GAME and it needs to be DIFFERENT
I have never played crossbowsShould I give it a try?
>he's pretending to be jonathan now
>pretending
>>541442761Please use a picture of woodful next time, thanks
>>541442436how is there more setup time? you stick 3 tablets in the map device and then run 8-15 maps in a row.
How much rarity do I need to undo the stealth nerfs to loot this patch
>>541443294>schizo tin foil hat retard>stealth nerfsstfu retard
>>541443136it says it right in the screenshot>8-15 maps in a rowso you havent even played the patch? thats not the number
>>541442436There isn't anymore setup time? unless by 'setup time' you just mean playing in less juiced maps? so his issue still boils down to his maps being less juiced on average.What the fuck do you mean kill monsters and get loot? you still get loot just less but because you get less what you do get is more valuable, do you not understand that all loot is relative?
>>541443346brown
>>541442865they suck until you've gotten the un-janking out of the way, for bolts that's reload and for grenades that's cooldown and detonation time. they're pretty painful to use until you hit those crossbow nodes in the merc area and/or get the right supports, they're great after that though.
>>541443362there is no 'number', they have charge variance. how does that change the fact that you put 3 tablets into the map device and run x number of maps in a row?
This patch is fucking dogshit
>>541443393>because you get less what you do get is more valuablelet me get this straightif they nerf the amount of loot, the game automatically adjustst to make the loot stronger? like theres a system that scans how many perfect exalts are dropping, it detects that its way fewer than in 0.3.0 and then it changes greater exalts to add mods with a higher minimum ilvl?way less omens in ritual? thats fine, you can just use a double exalt omen and it automatically acts as a homogeneous exalt omenless expedition currency drops? the vendor prices get cheaper less bases drop? mod weights are automatically adjusted so you get the same amount of 50 spirit gold amulets as beforei see now. thanks
>>541442865doesnt really work with nova support so its by default bad. it could literally have infinite dps it would still be inferior. there are only 3 stats in this game that matter:#1 movement speed. by far the most important stat#2 aoe clear#3 how much es can you stack
>>541443783get back in the tub faggot
>>541443790the whole game of poo2 is and will always be fucking dogshit
>>541443749so you havent played the patch and you are incapable of reading the screenshot of someone explaining why the patch is more tedious. got it
>>541444000cope
What would cause my xp omen not to trigger in a map. I didn't die yet this instance and it still didn't go off
>>541444175what exactly am i coping with? i am accepting the fact that poo2 is dogshit and ggg is falling apart before our eyes
>>541444243>ggg is falling apart before our eyeswhy are you so invested
>>541443817Do you think if you got 1000 divines per map the game would be improved?
>>541443945>movement speed. by far the most important stati have slowed all enemies to a curb on my chronomancer it feels so bad playing another character nowbut i was thinking pathfinder with the 50% reduced movement speed penalty ascendency and crossbows could work
Ok so I'm just skipping cenotes since the boss here is cancer
>>541444345dunno i played poe1 almost religiously, and it got yanked away slowly at first and then rugpulled last year, i am enjoying the shitshow
>>541444351yes this would unironically and literally solve all problems. no I don't care about inflation and other things being cheap because of it. I just dont.
>>541444351do you think if a single white item and a single transmute dropped per map the game would be just as fun?
>>541444480not how it works, laddehif you get 1000 divines per map, and nothing else, things will get prohibitevely expensive to the point where you can't fit it all into 1 trade window.
>>541444635I literally told you:>no I don't care about inflation and other things being cheap because of it. I just dont.
My 5-6 mod abyss rares are dropping augs and transmutes now more than ever
>>541444540for him, nothing changes. but anyone non-braindead will get brought down to his level, so yes he'd enjoy it more because he'd suddenly be in the top percentage of players (in his mind at least)
>>541444047slotting 3 tablets and then running a bunch of maps isn't more tedious than the shitshow the atlas used to be. anyone who actually juiced the old atlas had the same complaints. >you needed to hunt for overlapping towers>you needed to clear out all the dead layouts around all the towers>you needed to run the towers and then pray all the tablets hit the maps you wanted>best case scenario you had 5 or 6 maps that were in radius of all the towers you juicedand thats just the baseline, ignoring corruption/cleanse and the extra hassle of setting them up.
I'm just not having fun anymore
>>541444635poe2 divines are a bad example because they dont do anything but if you got 1000 perfect exalts / chaos / whittling omens / homogeneous omens / whatever per map then nothing would be "expensive" because you can just make perfect gear after mapping for a bitwould that be fun? idk probably yeah, more fun than poe2 in its current state anyway>BUT THEN EVERYONE ELSE WOULD ALSO HAVE PERFECT GEAR!!!!!!! ok and
People just wanna be the top dog without anyone else having a chance at being top dog
>poe2 divines dont do anythingretard
>>541444930Same. Got 4 characters to maps I think the only fun I have is trying out new build ideas and I don't actually like anything about the game itself
>>541445059btw this isnt just a thought experiment, phrecia was basically "you get 1000 divines per map" and it was fun and good and everyone who got over the initial weirdness of idols played it a shittonyou got 10x more loot so you went for items that required 10x as many crafting materials. not that crazy
Alright bros wake me up when they fix ritual. I'm out of here
>>541445410>btw this isnt just a thought experiment, phrecia was basically "you get 1000 divines per map" and it was fun and good and everyone who got over the initial weirdness of idols played it a shitton>you got 10x more loot so you went for items that required 10x as many crafting materials. not that crazy
>>541445608you already posted this one
>>541445608this is literally what playing phrecia was like and thats a good thing
0.4 hopes and predictions?
>>541446024rope, tr/a/nny
>>541446101Anime websiteGo back to whatever subreddit you come from, tourist
>>541446024I hope druid has fun skills I can use in my witch/sorceress build
>>541445294i mean they are good they dont let you create an item out of thin air like in poe1
>>541446186former anime website, now has its own anime section, go there to spam your pedo images
>>541446024Ease up on the restrictions for skillsDruidHollow palm not be forced into evasion/energy shield
animegawds run this website, are not transgender and will log into torchlight infinite season 10: overrealm in 6 days
>>541446293>now has its own anime section/a/ is one of the og boards retarded niggergo back
>>541446434LOLLMAO EVENthey will never drop the weapon-skill link
>go there to spam your pedo images>as he spams literal tranny porn from his personal collection
>>541446024total transpornposter ACKeningtotal antianimeposter ACKeningdruidduelisttowers back and improvedunderwhelming skills and ascendancies buffed
>>541446293fuck off, 4ch has been and always will be an anime website
>3.27 releases in around 20 days>still no announcement
>>541446454>will log into torchlight infiniteThe launcher installs a fucking rootkit on your machine and is not even show in the steam page, otherwise I would give it a try
>>541446687you're not complaining about the tranny porn though. i wonder why
>>541446593please point to the part of the rules or any other official info that states this.you can't, tr/a/nny
>>541446508>they will never drop the weapon-skill linkI hate shoved into a box. PoE 1 had it right with much looser restrictions on skills. I can understand shit like bow/crossbow vs melee weapons, but there's no reason I shouldn't be able to unga bunga with an axe vs a swordmade up arbitrary rules that don't make the game good
yesterday was a good day ladstime to get some actual gear
>>5414467353.27 teaser in two and half hours, sis
>>541446889BUT ANON, ALL THE ANIMATION WORK! YOU CAN'T EXPECT OUR DEVELOPERS TO MAKE 4 DIFFERENT ANIMATIONS FOR ONE SINGLE SKILL!
trannyposts and their replies are all invisible to me. I do not care about the musings of fucking retards.
Just filter any frogposter md5 and tr/a/nnyThe general quality improves a 500%
>>541446024I just want to have fun
>>541444540Yes, then the game might be challenging and drops would be exciting.
>>541447036so you made 4chan look like reddit, why not just go back there so you can downdoot.
>this absolute newfag doesn't know how to make filtered post not showReddit wants you back
>>541446735>releases
>>541447036all me
>>541446889its literally perfect in poe1loose hard restrictions combined with each weapon class having different stats, passive wheels including clusters and some special basesbut of course it has to be different and sloppified in poe2
>>541446883point to the rule that says you can't post anime here. why don't you sign up to be a janny isn't of sperging out
>>541443783would
>>541447223no i dont think i will but thanks for the suggestion you fucking faggot apologist
looks like a zoomer libtard. they love their comfy safe space.
>>541447327>literally perfect in poe1You never played poe1, did you
>>541447354there is no rule, else i'd call jannies. i can still spew some bile your way, pedo.
>>541447036post like this will only further the resident's mental illness and he will change md5 of every single one of his imagesthis is a losing battle, anonjust learn to not be bothered by retards, will improve your life even outside of internetz
>>541447405libtards love trannies and faggots. I'm militant right wing and i will bash your faggot face in if i ever meet you in wraeclast you bitch
>>541447471You can project all you want at 2D posters but the FBI will find your CP stash all the same
>>541447458it is perfect when compared to the dogshit that is poop 2. niGGGers don't know what they wanna do with that dogshit game and are flip flopping every patch
So while the shitskins are busy yelling at each other:>what's your current build?>what's your progress looking like? still farming for gear, going for level 100, dropped entirely, what?>are you having fun?
>>541447606lil bro larping as a tough guy. cute
>>541447636i stopped playing one week after the releaseendgame is kind of dogshit des
>>541447620So you never played POE2, thenAre you too poor to afford the EA 30 bucks or your computer is just too shit, third worlder?
>>541447036>i will interact with you to have you know i have you filtered, so i don't have to interact with youmeds, retard
>>541447620they do the same thing in poe1. poe1 is actually much worse for it considering the game is like 15 years old and they still rework base mechanics every other league.
>>541447636i played ssf for 1 week (irl time), crafted extremely op gear, cleared all content except for arbiter because i didnt find a single citadel and quitit was kinda fun but i didnt really feel like playing any more than that
>>541447405he said he was 40 last time
This game needs to be turned into an anime
>>541447636Flicker ritualist and botched spear bloodmageDropped till 0.40.3 was very good and fun but 0 new content
>>541447774i didnt interact with them though, i simply made a post declaring the tactic every sane individual should use. I'm sharing a successful strategy to drown out the faggots. If we had unique IDs back it would be ideal but alas
>>541447774he needs you to know that he downvoted your post.
>>541447458how would i know about heist bases without being a poe1 player
>>541447960Posting for someone to see is interacting with them you fucking retard. That's like getting a restraining order on someone, then going there to show them constantly.
>0.3.1 so shit the general cant stay active without replying to baitgrimmight just buy tq2
>>541448158posting for who to see? I have no knowledge of any specific post or poster, as I said, it's all blocked. If a particular retarded tranny happened to see my post which was general in nature, I had no power over that.
>do nothing >earn divinesTHANK YOU GODATHAN AND GODARK
Save yourselves some seconds reading subhuman's posts
>>541447636bleed spear witch hunterwas supreme agony until I got a cloak of flamenow it's just agony
>>541447772>pooranon, you are projecting. the game is dogshit, and i wouldn't touch it if they made it better by 10 times, because it would still be like spooning shit directly from woodful's asshole.
>>541447960>this anonymous site would be better if it wasn't anonymouspretty based take
>>541446024all I want is tota. unless they completely change it from what it was in poo1, I have the perfect build for it and i've been getting tired of waiting
>>541448470cope
>>541448391So you are saying you posted your filtered view not for the guy(s) you filtered to see?Actual mental gymnast.
>>541448395You didn't "earn" shitIts a game not a job and you are wasting your lifetime not playing it to "earn" imaginary video game currency that have a lifetime of 4 months and a realistic lifetime of less than 2
>>541448470this is clearrly photoshopped or copied from the internetif you really are not poor, prove it by buying a 200 dollar google play store card and posting the code here
>>541448641cope
>>541448417you dropped this, king
>>541448748ok i did it and i redeemed it, what do i do now?
>>541448641well yeah
>>541448793I have a dozen more, you are missing al the pajeetposting and poe1 poorfag terms too
>>541448637how do i know who got filtered if they are filtered you fucking retard? I have enough self-control not to look at the filtered posts you dumb nigger faggot. That's the whole point
kwab
>>541448567>unless they completely change it from what it was in poo1i'd be surprised if they didn't
>filterfags are even more fragile than redditors because those actually have to see a post to downvote it
Odds buy the 90€ supporter packEvens install torchlight
me? I just go on /a/ and filter every image in the catalog
>>541447636>buildhollow palm cyclone. It's been pretty fun but I'm at a wall where I need like 100div to upgrade anything. Middle finger is starting to hurt>progresslevel 95. Farming for upgrades, though I'm beginning to feel the tedium. Swapped Alva for Jun on the atlas just to help get a few achievements done.>funIt's my highest level character so I'm certainly sticking with it. First time getting mageblood too, even if its just a corrupted 2 flask version.
retard
>>541449104saved
>>541449104Keep us updated anon, I'm curious about the game
>>541448641OH NO HES MALDING OH NO NO NO HE DIDNT LOG INTO DIVINES OH NO NO NO NO NO
>>541447636>buildflash grenade witch hunter>progressfinished everything except hardmode arbiter and quit two weeks ago, couldn't be arsed looking for more citadels>funI play on a potato and abyss kind of ruined this league for me. I guess I was having fun whenever I wasn't in the abyss part of the map
>>541449180fixed thanks for correcting my spelling for me. wouldnt want to accidentally not filter a faggot
>>541448941You are showing the filtered people they got filtered, this interacting with people you don't wanna interact with. Very psychotic behavior, retard. It's like ignoring someone, then whispering them that you ignored them afterwards.
>>541449610your mistake is existing
>i filter bad words because they trigger melmao soft retards
Do poo1 monkeys seriously sit in these threads all day seething at the superior game?
>>541449946>>541448793LOL GET FILTERED FAGGOT
>>541448793>he doesn't enjoy poop posting
STINKY DOODY POO 2
>>541448793>the filters of an obsessed 1trannypoop1 eos sis
>>541448793What's the difference between filtering something on general vs comment?
>he can't keep up with the filters on his trigger words
I don't use filters
i only use item filters
>>541449104the new tli league (its called a season but it should be called a league because its a poe1 clone unlike poe2 where its called a league but it should be called a season because its a diablo clone) starts in a week, you should wait until then
what kind of FREAK lists items for 1 aug and then actually responds and trades the item
>>541450504a based chad
i am still not playing poo2
>>541450713based, i support your choice to flush the poo two
i am still playing poo2
>>541450713As if you could. How many goats would you have to sell to get a rig that can actually run it?
>>541450713thanks for financing tho
Is there a way to see the currency rates that the Trade site is using? Not ingame Currency Exchange, this one updates really slowly apparently
>>541450857brownanon obsessed over having a good pchow jealous does this make you?
>>541449724yes and look at the massive amount of coping and seething replies it got? I just carried like 30 posts in this thread all with one simple trick. They can post "lmao triggered" all they want, but we all know the truth. Trannies are fucking malding in this thread right now. The cure is being applied
transcoded browncoded genny
>>541450219not sure I'm just starting my filtering journey after this thread became infested with brainrotted retards.
stinky
>filtering because they can't downvote like they can on redditdumbasses
sly motherfucker
>>541451967you cant downvote trannyposters on reddit either, faggot. Trannies are a protected class, but not here, not now. I will kill all trannies with a cleansing filter fire. I will incinerate them in the ovens of wraeclast
The only people who seethe over filtering are the people who know they're getting filteredIf you want to stop getting filtered maybe stop acting so swarthy
I only post high quality anime reaction images
>>541452270a filtered tranny is an alive tranny. you need to see them to throw them into the oven.
>>541451104>no hddvery baseded4k monitor too i ssume based on screenshot resolution?
>>541452541no, odyssey g9 neo. 4k is a waste of resolution for gaming.
poopwum goob
>>541452482thanks for your contribution.cute aggression faggots need to go.
get gatekept lil gup
Is there any way to trigger Temper Weapon outside of manually casting it? I picked it up at my third ascendancy for shits and giggles and this skill more than triples my dps so I'd like to experiment with it further
>>541452860really makes you think
>>541453021NopeYou use it to delete bosses from existence as soon as they spawn
>>541453052honestly the image in that post alone pissed me off to an unreasonable degree
>shipment with 1mil dust on it and a ton of value simply lost with no counterplayI hate this place
>>541453436looks at this niggas little amygdala
>>541453052anime isn't cute thoughever, it's simplistic and degenerate
>>541453439how
>>541453052probably one of the most retarded trannycoded things i've ever read.
>>541453834>he read the whole trannyfesto
>>541453657>load up ship with everything I got>send it off>game informs me after 2 hours that pirates took it and the shipment was lostabsolute scam
I hope lily streams later
>>541453984bro rescue it
>>541453904know your enemythen filter them
ggg should make a paid expansion to filter the europoors
>>541454167filtering is for weak-minded individuals. you're not a weak-minded fool, are you?
I filter every post but my own
>>541454167>i'm so manly and angry! punch a baby, be a real man! omg w-why did you downvote me? fuck this i'm going to 4channel where they respect free speech.
>nu-anons getting triggered over some hardass larpnever change
>>541454420
>>541454242>>541454420>two homosexuals cope replieslmao, love it, keep em coming faggots.
>>541454637what romhack is this?
0.3.1 was that bad huh
>>541454637based megachud pwned that tranny
>>541454818jonathan mindbroke this general with a single patchggg employees in this thread are laughing their lmaos off I bet
>>541454063There wasn't an option. Literally the only thing I got
im having fun (in HCSSF)
>>541454818I dusted off my old MTG collection and began looking through it instead of playing this garbage
>>541455023bro....
>>541455023>HE SENT WITH LIKE 80% RISKholy retard
>>541454818you say that about every patch doomtroon
>>541455023Based risk assessment retard
>>541455096are you bald perchance
>>541455139Maybe they should make a good patch huh
im having fun (in megabonk)
>>541455310I was but I got a hair transplant
>>541455139and whose fault is that
>now he's pretending to be chris
>BRO I LOVE HAVING HAIR ON MY HEAD
i wish chris was here, with a timestamped picture
>>541455313>>541455461doomtroon
>>541455581I say this
i miss this guy
poepoepoepoepoepoe
THIS GENNY IS DOOMED!!!
>>541455853good post
>>541455853based
im having fun playing a hardcore action ARPG (Minecraft)
>>541456320he was so dreamy, please chris come back
poo2 sucks so much
Poe 2 is kinda stinky innit
>>541456376>>541456473do you really have no life to just keep repeating yourself about something you dislike?
>every poster not praising poe 2 is one person
>>541456719If the game was good I'd be playing instead of shitposting here
poe2? its not good
>>541456789>>541456897>>541456923seem mad for being called out
>>541456923TRVKE
>>541456789it's over a month into the league, there is a very good chance that most of the doomposts are the same few people. especially when they are basically the same posts over and over.
>>541456719yea>>541456923trvke
>>541457047Wouldn't the same logic apply to hopesissies
>>541457128there are no more hopesissies0.3.1 destroyed them
Did they fix the game yet?
>>541457342Yes they buffed some chaos powers and the rogue unique
>>541457339Good, fuck them all.
I was transitioning into a hopesissy but 0.3.1 snapped me back to reality
>>541457128the difference there would be people playing/enjoying the game. doomers are mazed and don't know what is going on so it's all just a variation of>game poopoodoodoo
>>541457757im having a hard time understanding this post
>>541457757>game poopoodoodooCan't argue with that
*grabs you by the shirt collar and hoists you off the floor*
>>541457886doomers are retarded and don't know anything about the game.
>>541457757>>game poopoodoodootrvke thougheverbeit
>>541457993dayumn he is roleplaying as a school shooter
>>541458274i know everything about the game
>>541457993He looks like he plays Diablo 2.
>>541457757but enough about dota2
>>541458274yes, because mindlessly praising a dogshit game that tries really hard to spite its players is so smart.
>>541457993i look like this and do this
>>541455853homura would never say that
>>541458274I have over 500 hours in this steaming pile of dogshit
>>541458501we live in an era where developers are openly antagonistic towards their core playerbase, i don't really get that vibe from ggg. you not liking the a patch or the general balance of the game isn't the devs spiting you personally.
>>541459238>developers are openly antagonistic towards their core playerbase, i don't really get that vibe from ggglmao what
>>541459238>i don't really get that vibe from gggyou haven't watched a single woodful rogers interview in the past 1.5 years, have you?
>>541458831She just did though desu
>>541459238you must be new
>i don't like this patch, that must mean that jonathan rogers is watching me personally, why doesn't he want me to have fun? why is he doing this to me??????legit mental illness.
>>541459930he obviously is not spiting me personally, but the whole playerbase as a whole.
i'm playing po01 on one monitor and watching a movie about dinosaurs on the other
>>541459989you mean a vocal minority of players?
>>541460061based filter circumventer
>>541460171people who hate the game moved on, you can clearly see it in the steamchartsthe steam ratings for poo2 are still abysmal, if you compare it to other games
im playing the second installment while taking care of my blue archive wives on the other monitor
Poe3 when?
>>541460354>people who hate the game moved onthat really doesn't seem to be the case.
ETA on the 3.27 teaser?
i want to start blue archive but i'm broke
>>541460764looks pretty dead to me for a game-changing patch just having dropped
>waking up to another stinker of a patch
>>541461157HOLY SHIT 0.3.1 WAS MASSIVE
STINKY POO 2
>>541461157so everyone liked the patch, or everyone hates it but can't move on? the player count is virtually unchanged from 0.3.0 to 0.3.1. which is it...
>>541461646Let me translate it to brown:The patch was SUPPOSED to be game-changing, but reception of it was bad.
>>541461646everyone currently online is either in campaign or a bot so they dont care about 0.3.1it was supposed to bring the real players back to blasting the endgame but it failed miserably
how much this worth? what catalyst should I use? I assume caster?
>>541461646Looking forward to when people run out of prejuiced tower areas
>>541448793what does eee ohh ess stand for?
>>541461732>>541461881it was a mid-league patch lmao
>>541461908>no +3>cant force +3 spells on itits shit
>>541462024It's an acronym, stands for End Of Service (happens to live service games on the regular)
>>541460974it's free though...
>>541462062It was a patch that implemented a feature the community has cried for since the release of 0.1 (removal of towers), and it did nothing except nerf everyone and make reddit mad - it's basically the endgame changes for 0.4 frontloaded, as jonathan said in the video. 0.4 is for content only.LMAO timestampedhttps://youtu.be/50ykp-2-_iw?t=14
>>541462134fuck this game
>>541462134when the fuck are they going to delete/nerf +skills? hate that shit
>>541462364poe is free and i've spent hundreds on it
>>541460974>spending money is an in-game mechanici will never understand players who p(l)ay this shit
>>541462474a mid-league balance patch with no content. doomers thought people were going to flood back to the 5 week old league, why?
As someone waiting for the official launch to play poe2 it's going to be wild how much the game changes. I'll never even see these "towers" and other things people complain about. I wonder how many more systems will come and go before then.
>>541462756seeing as this was a change that removed the most hated feature of poo2 endgame (towers), yes, i would have expected some players to come back to give it a shot.
>running around 3 infused deli map>never have trouble with bosses>see boss spawn>ok time to use gernades>it points at me>i fall over dead even with 4 layers of anti 1 shot from full hp>literally nothing else to show i could have avoided anything and nothing came at me>lost my map and my expensive tabletsmy fucking GOD
>>541462683they arnt poor like you
>>541462945the end game is just unfortunately very boring. there's no progression like in poe1, the atlas tree is barebones, mechanics are barebones, and builds fail to scale to the point where you feel good playing them beyond a few hrs at a time. no one is going to grind this game, ever. It's not enjoyable for that long
>>541463103>assuming i am poor just because i don't wanna spend money as a gameplay mechanicyou must be retarded
>>541462945>replace (bad thing) with (worse thing)Why would I want to come back for that?
>>541463173thank you for being honest, poo2 is bad and will stay bad because ggg refuses to make it good because good would be too similar to poe1>>541463202this is how GGG "buffs every class (map)". get used to it, poo2rist
>>541463018I just removed all my boss atlas points. Bosses don't drop anything worthwhile and they fucked up the spawn rate of extra content
>>541462945>removed the most hated feature of poo2 endgame (towers)doomers spent the last week seething about towers being the sovl of the endgame.people don't come back in droves to play a mid-league patch, thats why ggg don't add a bunch of content mid-league.
>>541463202>jonathan gives you an endgame>you hate it and demand a change>jonathan gives you a worse endgame, out of pure spite just so you will eat up the first version of his endgameyou will lose anon, poo2 bad
POO! uhhh... 2!
Towers as implemented were bad but were the only thing holding this abysmal atlas together. Without them the endgame is the worst it has ever been
>>541463018was it that new boss with the scythes from act 1 interlude?i think it does a one shot move right at the beginning
>>541463492people don't way towers were good, they just despise the obvious loot nerfs
>>541463186poor people are really mad about how others spend their money. sad
>>541463872too bad i ain't poor anon, i don't care how you spend your money. all i am saying is, i don't understand how people play a game where spending money is the main gameplay loop, like this or like diablo immortal.
>>541463103yea they are lol
>>541463785despise>loot nerfs>tablet nerfs>literal mechanic nerfs (ritual was omega nerfed in every single way and is required for crafting)
instead of spending money on a gacha game, why dont you just work less
>>541463785it's more loot on average thoughbeit. 95% of players weren't minmaxing 3 tower overlaps, even if they were they were very rare and took a long time to set up.one of the most common complaint is needing to run 6 mod maps for 3 towers, so none of those people were properly juicing maps anyway.
>>541463872>poorfag feeling called out on his bad spending habits
am I blind? where is it?
>>541464106it's how ggg gives you what you want.give way on 1 issue, fuck your ass on 3 other issues. get used to it poo2rist.
>>541464375lol middle right, it's hidden in the dark. i had the same problem
>>541464252>no uKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK hit a sore spot
>>541464496jesus thanks
>>541464375i think if you completed a map but not the atlas objective, it still shows as a circle on the atlas?it definitely makes it so kirac doesnt give it to you on scouting reports which is kinda fucked
how can i hide games in my steam library? i don't want people knowing i play this shit
Hello any loot here?
>>541464587rightclick > manage > mark as private
>>541464615Hello exile, thank you for posting. I am happy ot inform you that we have recently fixed a bug where players were getting loot. You can now enjoy your loot-free experience of playing PoO2!t. Woodful J. Rogers
>>541464130its less loot than 2 towers, not just 3one could even argue that its less loot than 1 tower because you burn through both tablets (cause its per map instead of all in the radius) and maps (due to lower density) way faster
>>541464375I can see it. No i won't tell you. Go use your map tab to find the missing map, faggot.
jonathan released this shitpatch just to test it out because he knew it was probably going to be bad r-right? surely 0.4 won't be this bad............
>>541464130I was not a tower minmaxer but I did overlap if feasible and always made sure each tower had 3 tablets. The loot difference I had pre-patch and now is night and day
>open abyssal trove in deli t15>1 regal shard
>>541464860it's more loot on average now and it makes target farming mechanics faster. it's also way faster to navigate the atlas, so more cleansed zones, more citadels, more unique maps and much less time spent forcing yourself to clear shit maps.
>>541465294>>541465294>>541465294>>541465294>>541465294>>541465254>it makes target farming mechanics faster.technically true but with how limited the atlas tree is compared to 1 it isn't quite as nice
>>541465254Poo2 apologist
>>541464130>one of the most common complaint is needing to run 6 mod maps for 3 towers, so none of those people were properly juicing maps anyway.how do you think this is an argument in favor of the patchyou also need 6 mod maps for 3 tablets on maps so those people are getting at least equally fucked and probably more because its way easier to run a tower with a 6 mod waystone once than it is to run every map with 6 mod waystones you could even retry tower maps if you fail them once so nothing was stopping you from getting 3 tablet slots on towers but its way harder to get 3 tablet slots on mapsbasically you are extremely retarded and most likely indian and do not play the game which makes it even funnier that you are defending it
