Dragon Age Inquisition Edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>541324710>Thread QuestionThoughts on Dragon Age Inquisition?
>>541508410>Thoughts on Dragon Age Inquisition?I don't think about it at all
>>541508410>Thoughts on Dragon Age Inquisition?https://youtu.be/MRiqx2TuiNc
What’s ur discords?
>>541509108Never understood why this scene was so mocked
>>541509228non-shit versionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgYxMVRtJr4
>>541509108I know Veilguard as a whole was cringe, but did they have everyone breaking into song too?
>>541508410Just beat RT, looking to play Wotr next. How does combat compare in turn based?
>fight a ton of 50 AC Demons>they can't die because they have regeneration that can only be negated by lightning but as demons they're immune to lighting>have to sit there coup de gracing them until they fail their save>get to the final boss>spend 10 minutes meticulously buffing expecting an absolute ball buster of a fight>the fight is over in 20 seconds>uber machine wizard's loot? A fucking Heavy Crossbow, not even enchantedThis was the worst fucking dungeon I've ever played, holy shit.
If underrail is so good why is their no underrail likes?
>>541510057It’s easier to appeal to the retard waifu-fags than to make something unique
DA:I was actually a fine game. It was the last bioware game to make use of the Dragon Age Keep system, the orlais mission was a nice break from the usual "go here and kill stuff" missions in every videogame, and the cast of characters was overall pretty solid. People complain about Sera but you weren't necessarily supposed to like her on a personal level, she was well written despite being unlikable which is just something that goes over a lot of player's heads. The only party member that was legitimately bad was Bull, but even with his writing flaws it was at least novel to have a companion that was straight up a spy and everyone knew it, which was funny, so even the worst of the group still had something funny. Meanwhile Cullen, Leliana, Josephine, Cole, Blackwall, Cass, Viv, and and Solas were all legitimately interesting characters, which has always been the strength of bioware games.If I had to leverage a complaint, it would be that the gameplay did feel samey after a while. You spent some time leveling up and gaining skills, and then the game tells you to kill thousands of demons. The gameplay is still the pseudo-turnbased we liked from the previous games and previous bioware games, and I do believe the tactical interface mode was well done and I mode lots of use of it on the hardest difficulty, but there was just so much of it and it started to feel samey.I also believe that the Trespasser dlc was genuinely good. The story with Solas, why the rift happened, what the Inquisitor has to do, the relationship with Solas vs what he's doing, all of that was excellent.Overall I'd say it was a solid B videogame. Not good enough to be among the best of the genre, but certainly not bad. I may even play it again next year or so since I plan on doing a full DA franchise replay of all 3 games. Only 3 DA games exist, aside from that phone game spinoff.
>>541509425That's pretty vague anon.You should play on Normal but can always change it later if you want. RT has very easy combat so be aware that it will be a step up, but you can always customize to your liking. TB is fine and the only way I play, and I say that as an RTWPchad. But you can flip between the two. Just read what does what. Hover over lines in the status to see what the outcome was and what played into it, this will teach you a lot.One of the buttons on the lower left is Inspect, keep that on. You can hover/right-click on enemies to get their information. If their AC is enormous but their Touch AC sucks, consider targetting Touch AC. If their Reflex is garbage, consider targetting that etc. Pretty basic stuff after you get used to it.One thing that might not be obvious at first is that while you get a Dex bonus added to AC, it's limited by the kind of armor. Heavy armor might not let you take any Dex bonus at all for instance. In case you're new in general to DnD/Pathfinder, Str is used to determine if you hit in melee, unless you specifically have Weapon Finesse and a finesse weapon, then you could use Dex. Str is also used for damage, again there's feats and ways to have your Dex give the damage.I don't know, there's a lot, I guess just read and pay attention to why something worked or didn't work. Normal is pretty forgiving but will likely still be a challenge here and there while you learn how things work.
>>541510128Wtf studios do that?
>>541509721I'll be honest man it sounds like you didn't read their description correctly or you failed a lore check and got only partial info on them. There was probably a counter to them that you just weren't seein.In any event the reward is the xp.
>>541509721>fight a ton of 50 AC DemonsBut that isn't the case? Most of Blackwater is humanoid with very awful Will saves, so not immune to lightning. Not saying it's a good dungeon, just that you're wrong about that.
>>541510332More importantly, thoughts on the Dawn will Come scene?
guess I might as well play a role
>>541510620>That's pretty vague anon.I was thinking in terms of the tactics involved. I know Wotr has much more extensive character building mechanics, but I was wondering if tactics play a big role in combat, or is it mostly determined by having the right stats/spells. I started on core but got one shotted by a fight in the shield maze so I set it on daring and so far it seems pretty balanced.
>>541513360There is a little, I mean, not as much as I'd like. If you charge in face-first every time you will have a bad time on Core and higher. On Daring you might get away with it sometimes, but it's better to use CC and try to engage smartly so they don't bust through and target anyone in the backlines (they still will). Take advantage of stuff like, ranged attacks proc an attack of opportunity. So charging up to archers is a good thing to do and often they'll waste a turn just readying a melee weapon.One tip too, if you hold Shift? Control? I forget... But you get a free 5ft of movement that doesn't proc Attack of Opportunity. This is really vital, like if you have a caster that ends up in melee range, use that to just move away and cast. It will be considered your entire movement though, so you won't be able to move further away after.
>>541509721If only the dungeon gave you a whole bunch of lightning damage weapons
>>541508774+1 Increment TooMonKeigh
>>541514462>5ft of movement that doesn't proc Attack of OpportunityGood tip, thanks anon.
>>541510057It takes effort to create quality.
Obsidian should make a ultima like, they would be good at it.
I need to fuck her
>>541510332kys Mintharatranny
>>541508410>Thoughts on Dragon Age Inquisition?Awful combat and giant barren levels, good everything else. I even like Sera!
I wanna smooch her.
>>541518523>giant earrinsNo. Out the airlock she goes.Have some fucking standards man.
>>541519243Sorry about your autism
if you don't obsessively weight her jewelry and search her bodies for tattoos or inappropriate hair lengths, is she really your waifu?
>>541519525What can I say? I like damaged goods.
Why does winterscale get a ton of different xenos mercs and we don't? We only get 2 eldar.
>>541520802Writing xeno characters requires creativity and talents, something owlcat lacks
>>541519243What?
>>541521048See >>541519332 and >>541519684
>>541520802Winterscale is cooler than you in every wayEven Captain Sargona has a deldar gfYou are probably the most pathetic ship commander in a 100 ly radius
Why is there so much freemason imagery in owlcat games?
>Owlcat has a license for 4 gw gamesOne of them better let us be space marines.
>>5415217251) Rogue Trader 2) Dark Heresy3) Atelier game in a hive city 4) Footfall Tycoon
>>541521725>Owlcat has a license for 4 gw gamesFantasy is basically confirmed
We deserve a fantasy game and a game where you can be a space marine.
Muhreens don't deserve anything. They already have too much.
I want to be a Custodian myself. Fuck Marines
Dark heresys combat looks like wasteland 3 but with magic.
Do you think that Owlcat could write a good Vampire the Masquerade game?
>>541518990
>>541508410>Thoughts on Dragon Age Inquisition?the series' second death and one of the first marks of Bioware becoming unsalvagable.>>541509323it's impossible to make a non-cringe version of that shitshow
>>541510332>It was the last bioware game to make use of the Dragon Age Keep systemIt was the only game to make use of the keep system and didn't even work for that. The keep system was actually Bioware failing to modernize their usual save carryover shtick and was promptly abandoned, along with the shtick.
What's a game about roleplaying as a computer?
>>541510057Fallout
>>541523542Pre-RT I would have said no, but that game showed they can substantially change their writing style to fit the setting, so I reckon they could.
>>541524831>but that game showed they can substantially change their writing style to fit the settingdoes it tho. feels like the same edgy they used in wrath.
>>541524913There weren't any super silly moments and none of the characters felt like just a current day person dropped in a fantasy world. And I mean if it seems particularly edgy to you that fits VTM too
>>541525141>There weren't any super silly moments Jae broadcasting your sex?>and none of the characters felt like just a current day person dropped in a fantasy world.I don't think applies to wrath's characters any more than RTs. Argenta and Jimmy are downright mild for their professions.
Haven't played wotr since season pass 1 days.I heard they were improving some of the lackluster mythic paths, how are aeon, devil, gold dragon, and swarm that walks now? Did they actually improve them?Or does demon and angel still have the most content?
>>541525141Wading through the shit is pretty silly
>>541521725Source?
>>541525141I'd say RT is by far the funniest game
>heavy bolter deals less damage than a normal bolterOwlcat are fucking retarded.
Your mother is a heavy bolter lmao
>>541510332Good post as always. What game is next on your list?
>>541521725They referenced black crusade and I think Only War with discord filenames iirc
>>541521725Where did you gwt this info from?
Vistenza Vyatt? More like Vistenza Gyatt!
What is the best Mythic Path fitting for an evil, all strength and muscles, no intelligence, no charisma half orc barbarian?
>>541531172angel obv
>>541509323Just realized how rare and cool it is to hear the characters SING
Is there a way to improve initiative or whatever it's called in RT? It's annoying to have to sit through 15 enemies at the start of each combat.
>>541531172Aeon
>>541531172demon probably
>>541532172One important thing to do is to turn up combat speed and choose "always". Also turn off "centre camera on active player"
Is there a greater curse than your crpg being so small that all discussion about it online is dominated by ineffect?
>>541533701what the fuck is ineffect
Which CRPG has the best story and hardest choices?
>>541534265Neoseeker froggy.
>>541534787QRD?
>>541525597That has to be edited. Owlcat's writing is shit but its not this particular smell.
>>541525597How the FUCK do you defend this writing
>>541535514I can assure you it is absolute fact. In the sewers after going incognito to the funeral on footfall
>>541535514no it was always like that
>>541535617I mean that's more of a meme moment devs added, the rest of the writing is fine
>>541535660Is this new? I usually have dropped Idira by then so maybe its because I don't take her? I can't imagine Argenta saying "Hardy Har Har"
>>541534956Guide writer build autist who thinks only his excruciatingly minmaxed builds are viable despite them being usually either wrong or only marginally better than playing like a sane person when they finally come online at the end of the game
>>541533358That's not what I asked at all. Is that a tacit way of saying you can't improve your odds of attacking first?
>>541536021This is probably why I have an impression that to have a survivable build in WoTR you need to multiclass several times and take very specific sequences of obscure feats.
>>541532172Yeah, agility and perception are both calculated in who goes first. All combatants are grouped into several groups based on initiative rolled, and groups go together.There are also a few items that affect initiative, and there's a class that always goes first as a class feature.>>541529361Well the new Bloodlines is out in just a couple weeks, so probably that. In the meantime a friend wants to co-op Rogue Trader for his first playthrough since he got it in the sale so that will be fun. There are 17 games on my steam wishlist at the moment though not every one is a crpg. So there are lots of upcoming games. Solasta 2, Afterlight, Clockwork Revolution, New Arc Line, Archquest, and Osiris Reborn are a few off the top of my head.
>>541536631I just thought I'd mention it because I always mention it whenever the length of combat in RT comes up I know that you can make some of your guys always go first eg Cassia by making her a grand strategist, and I think there's an item for this too
>>541537545>Well the new Bloodlines is out in just a couple weeks, so probably thatWhy do you keep supporting bad games from mercenary companies?
>>541535984Imagine it. It might be new with Void Shadows but it's been there at least a year. I was so startled when I saw it I took a screenshot. I got the pic back by searching for my original thread on the /v/ archive
>>541534787Froggy's builds at least don't take a billion multiclasses and he doesn't rely on mercenaries nearly as much, so I think his are better.
Is there an easy way to browse the game dialogues for Owlcat games? Like a modding tool?And the game events and how they activate.
>>541537029A lot of WotR builds in general are heavily outdated now too. Shatter defences was always massively overrated and it's still considered mandatory on most guides despite it being nerfed ages ago.
>>541538636>Shatter defences was always massively overratedThis, I don't know why it was mandatory on every single build I saw. You have to spend 3 feats and then if enemies are immune to fear, mind-affecting or have something like Foresight or Uncanny Dodge them Shatter Defenses does absolutely nothing, most late game enemies have 1 or several of these on them.
If you could delete one companion from each Owlcat game (as in they were never in it from the start, not kill) who would your pick for each game be?>Reg>Nenio>Ulfar
>>541540154>Didn't play>Sosiel>Ulfar (waste of dev time)
>>541540154Octavia or ValerieCamMarazhai or Yrilet
>>541540154This is obvious.>Linzi>Nenio>Idira>Ra'akhti
>>541540154>you’re waifu>you’re waifu>you’re waifu
>>541540784That anon is not your waifu.
>>541540154Sister Argenta Pointless bait and switch character
>>541540741This is some platinum shit taste
>>541540784haha, nice one ESL-kun
Lann once again proving that he's the ideal mann. His hobbies include eating. What more could any woman want?
I traded Alistair just to be able to fuck Loghain's daughter and it was worth it. Never liked the guy anyway.
>>541541796>Cheating on Morrigan>Betraying your bro AlistairDo people seriously play the non-canon route in DA:O? Like, what's the point. You're just playing make-believe.
>>541540154>Jubilost>Seelah>Idira
>>541542261Morrigan literally doesn't give a fuck. She sees your marriage to Anora as smart political power move and approves. And Alistair isn't my bro, dude has been an annoying faggot since Ostagar. For what it's worth though I did tell Anora to spare him.
>>541542261>Do people seriously play the non-canon route in DA:OIn a general sense its worth to see content once but I agree, it doesn't feel right not going for the clear choice, but I'm glad the choice is there.
>crying about "canon" route>in a game literally all about choicesyou sound like some redditor
Morrigan’s friendship route is better than her romance
Imagine being filtered by Alistair.
What makes Morrigan work as a bog witch where Idira doesn't?
>>541542963Not really. Her romance route has kino resolution in Witch Hunt and then a satisfying sort of epilogue in Inquisition. This is cope that I see trannies use because they only play as female Wardens and Morrigan has zero interest in carpet munching so they pretend that her friendship route is somehow better.
For me it's MorriganMerrilCassandraDidn't play Veilguard and never will but going by surface level knowledge if I had to choose I'd go with Harding.
>>541543147The crpg drought was long. I’ve played it every way.
>>541543447There's still a crpg drought, just because there's a half-inch of sludge water at the bottom of the well named owlcat and larian doesn't mean we're back to normal.
>>541542261There was a time when you could play the game, when there wasn't a canon route.
>>541543106White
>>541543576The canon route in a game is usually (sub?)consciously informed by the designers. Even if they design multiple paths its somewhat obvious you're meant to empower your friends and impregnate your goth sorceress.
The incel route is always the canon route
I romance Leliana and make Alistair breed Morrigan for the lulz
>crit into opportunity crit no outflank no trickster no cheatsIt is because this happens so rarely that makes it so special.
>>541544194In 99 % of cases, the developers have no idea what will become the canon route
Does anyone else think WOTR's companion cast is a massive downgrade on average?
>>541544638>I'm a cuck for the lulzGood for you anon
>>541545148You're telling me Liara was never intended to be the canon maleshep romance option even if Tali and Garrus are more popular?
I ship them.
>>541542261>You're just playing make-believe.You mean roleplaying?
>>541546125Compared to what? Kingmaker's? I think RT has the best roster out of any Owlcat game, but Wotr companions are leagues better than Kingmaker's, with a few exceptions.
>>541546274>dating Leliana>not dating Morrigan>don't wanna sleep with another woman, especially swamp killjoy, so just get your underling to do it How is this cuckoldry?
>>541546125Yes, even Camellia is actually just Jaethal but romanceable, except Jaethal is the better character.
>>541546610>romanceable evil undead elf who ropes you into some pretty sick shitShe would have been too powerful.
>>541546286No Liara was very obviously pushed as the "main girl" even up until ME3. But Mass Effect isn't Dragon Age.
>>541546274Do you ever wonder what went wrong in your life?
>>541546125At first I thought the same, but after after the first playthrough I like most of them. Even Greybor got a bit more likeable at the end, hadn't have him with me during the first playthrough because I killed him). Never cared much for Cam, though, but will romance her during my current run.
The canon protag autism is funny because the actual default protag is a dalish elf who didn’t romance anyone and fucking died because she didn’t do the ritual.
I fucking hate the idea of "canon" in video games. Defeats the whole purpose.
>>541540154>Regongar>Nenio>JaeThe only one I actively hate and think was a mistake would be Nenio, Regongar and Jae are just lame
canon Anakin definitely tapped Ahsoka I mean think about it
>>541546893She does actually come across like a villainess for some other story. If Owlcat's games had better companion narratives I could see her being more involved with the kingdom for an evil or morally flexible neutral path.
>>541543106WhiteHotCool romanceCute tsundere
Is archmilitant the best choice for a heavy gunner build?
Most crpgs would be improved if you removed every male companion
>>541550750*female
I wanna have a twink shepeard in Mass Effect and have a milf harem
Morrigan is garbage
Sera is a carpet muncher
>Owlcat actually implemented the chunni speech featWhen did this happen?
>>541553780You are gargbage
More like morrigay
I don't like Morrigan desu, only thing she has is looks and the occasional funny squabble with Alistair. Apart from that she is a bitchy killjoy.
>>541554876Her being a bitchy cunt because she's never been treated well in her life just for her to melt the moment you gift her a mirror is part of the appeal
Flemeth gets sexier the older I get
>>541538202Don't know about RT but wrath and kingmaker have the dialogue in a plain text file in the localization folders. RT probably does too.
>>541554998You can't say the Mishima style of parenting doesn't work though.
>>541542261I'll use this post to remind everyone the actual canon DAO warden was a dalish chick who sacrifices herself. This combo was chosen entirely because bioware were salty no one played it this way.
>>541556002how can that be the canon when Morrigan has a kid that looks nothing like Alistair
>>541546286>even if Tali and Garrus are more popular?lollmao even
>>541556183The ritual isn't part of the canon ending, thus the sacrifice.
>>541548397Yes, because it gets to spam attacks.
>>541556484do you have a single source to back that up
>>541546125Regongar x Octavia was very annoying with how they flirt with you and insert themselves into every dialogue. It's like having 2x Jae in your party.Doesn't help that Octavia was the only wizard you get.
>>541557512Octavia's dialogue was fine for meI liked her banter with Jubilost and Valerie. Her being a slut makes sense considering her life and I didn't find her overly offensive however....I think Regongar simply has too many flaws>polyculeAlright they were both in a very peculiar situation so I can understand this>A drunkardAlright, I mean, he had a hard life>An assholeOk ok, as I said he had a hard life>violent outburstsYeah gotta remember he's an orc....>RetardedYeah, he's an orc, yeah....>Is overly flirty even with a male playerLike on top of everything else?There comes a point where I have to wonder what exactly I am supposed to like about a characterHe's not even evil in a good or funny way, him being an ass isn't fun like Camellia or Daeran being cunts to everyone, he isn't witty, he isn't hot, he isn't anything but annoying and pathetic really.
>>541556002That's not canon, that's the default world state that exists as a baseline for extended media like comics and shit. That fat faggot Gaider even made it a point to go out of this way to emphasize this. The "x is canon!" retards are some of the most annoying faggots to exist in any RPG community.
I hope Dark Heresy has a lot of cults. RT did not have enough cults. Each character you meet should be part of a different cult.
>>541556958See >>541559785 pointlessly coping.
>>541554876Frozen hearted goth with resting bitch face is actually really appealing as a basic fantasy at the opposite end of the spectrum from the manic pixie dreamgirl. It doesn't necessarily equate to a realistically good long term partner, but there's a reason that "evil women" and "crazy pussy" are popular tropes.
>>541557512>was the only wizard you get.I have a full party of mercenaries by the time I encounter these two, I always leave them in their cages.
Which Mass Effect romance was the best (either overall or per game), not about which chick or dude is the hottest, but quality of romance and amount of content?Also which 2 companions are the biggest chuds each game?
>>541562818For amount of content and way it ties into the overall narrative then Liara probably with Ashley running second.
>>541540741>linzithe game wouldn't exist if linzi didn't exist sadly.
>>541562818Liara> which 2 companions are the biggest chudsashley and wrex
>>541546289always wished games allowed you to ship companions together, they always focus on player romance but you end up romancing one character anyway so why not let me ship the rest together?Technically some do, I think you could do it with a specific ending of dragon age origin and in pillars of eternity 2.
>>541563085Yeah it would, the devs would just write it differently so she wouldn't be a part of it at all.
>>541553780morrigan was written for edgy teenage boys. If you played the game as a teenager you'd love her, if you played it as an adult you'd realize she's shit.
>>541563492Because the game is supposed to be about you. There shouldn't be long relationship arcs among your teammates.
>>541563649>morrigan was written for edgy teenage boys.How so?
>>541540154>Valerie>Gaybor>Jae or Yrl*et
>>541563936That anon is just trying to pretend that tsundere goths aren't still hot just because you eventually mature enough to realize you should marry a dependable and responsible woman instead of the crystals and tarots witchy girl who has something bad to say about everyone.
>>541525395Aeon's always been good, gold dragon and swarm are still act 5 minimal shit from what I've seen. Yes demon and angel definitely have the most, but after them I think it's a tie between aeon/azata/trickster/lich. Then you have gold dragon/swarm/legend which you can switch to towards the end.
>sh*ppersThe lowest form of human life. Even worse than romancefags, the moment a studio or series gives these subhumans any leeway is the moment it goes to shit.
>>541540154valerie neniothe spess marine doesn't really add much
Martial bros...
>>541565078yes?
>>541564446NTA but I've been having trouble picking a mythic path in my current playthrough.>Gold Dragon is too good aligned and I think being a dragon is boring in general.>Trickster just feels too silly.>Lich is tempting but I'd rather be some kind of vampire lord than a decrepit decaying undead.>Azata isn't exciting at all, its all faerie wings and sparkles>Devil is tempting but I don't necessarily want to go that evil either, and I think its short-sighted since your character basically sells his soul right?>Demon is also tempting but again, also too evil and I wanted to lean more into being some crusader champion>Angel with leaning into retribution may be what I go but I'd prefer something less outright goodie>Aeon I did last time I played and I liked it but my character isn't lawful enough this time around to justify going that autisticI guess that leaves Legend and Swarm, and Legend feels lackluster, does it have many options? I never did it before but I get the feeling its just the consolation prize of the paths. And swarm is too CE for what I'm going for this time.
>>541563936>>541564329>le edgy dark haired cynical woman is good
>>541565259>Trickster just feels too sillyThat's the point. Demons are innately retarded, and shitposting beats retards every time. You tell a joke, drop some intentional logical fallacies, then do a silly jig while demons work themselves into a frothing rage and end up effectively killing themselves. It's the ultimate counter. Demons can't drag you down to their level and beat you with experience as long as you keep trolling them.
>>541565836>conflates arousing with good
>>541565889I think it'd be more appealing if it came across more like those 40k clown elves instead of "le troll face u mad"
>>541565836I hate to be the "media literacy" guy but come the fuck on nowAre you baiting?
>>541565836this but unironically (if she's hot)
>>541565259The only thing with Legend is that it lets you reach level 40. If you've ever wanted to be a Bard 20 Duelist 10 Aldori Swordlord 10, Legend path is your chance. If you don't already have a gimmick build in mind, there's obviously no point.There's nothing actually forcing you to be an evil demon, or a good angel. It's obviously recommended, and you'll have to give up some opportunities if you want to struggle against your nature, but you can.
it's time once again to push deeper into the jungles of Grand Chien. Today we take Landsbach and the Drachenberg mine.
Justice has arrived!
>>541537029crpg bro on youtube kind of showed how subpar builds and pure builds can still be viable on unfair. He has lots of non multiclassed builds that destroy any and all combat encounters on unfair.
>>541565932>>541566457>>541566482you have to be 18 to post here
morrigan is one thing and can be written off as a product of her time with bioware too scared to make the cover girl of their new fantasy IP gay but you're telling me this bitch isn't a lesbian? calling bullshit.
>>541568771Isn't she your ideal tomboy fetish? What are you whining about?
>>541565078This item makes summoners a lot better imo. The concealment they get can't be bypassed by true seeing or even echolocation, so enemies always have a 50% miss chance against them no matter what, and it also makes it so they always catch the enemy flat-footed, on top of all the other benefits it provides.
>>541565259>I guess that leaves Legend and SwarmThe thing with the late paths is that it's not just "Swarm", it's Demon (or Azata or whatever) until Act 5, and then Swarm.In other words, with Legend/GD/Swarm, 80-90% of the game you're actually playing Aeon/Angel/whatever. It's better imo to come up with a character you really connect with, and then just do what they would do, without your player meta shit trying to steer.What this paralysis is doing is just fatiguing you, introducing spoilers so cucking yourself out of the story experience, and ultimately setting you up for disappointment as you put so much thought into it that it won't be able to live up to the effort you've put in.tldr1. Make a cool character that resonates with you2. Play the role
>>541568771Speaking of shipping companions together it would have been so fucking hot if you could convince her to fuck Iron Bull.
If Morrigan was released today so there would be cuck talk
>>541568715I probably have ball hairs older than you, boi.
>>541570871ObviouslyThere is cuck talk about literally every single female characterThe only /crpg/ approved non cucked way to live is to jack off in your basement while complaining about videogame romances 24/7
>>541570871Isn't there already? Its just less emphasised because writers back then were more into bdsm instead.
why was grandma such a heretic
>>541571226>jack off in your basement while complaining about videogame romances 24/7/crpgg/...
>>541570871The generation that didn't care are currently the most engaged in cuckoldry and open marriagesZoomers are just abstaining altogether
>>541570871Her banter with Sten is pretty damning. She was legit trying to get that BQC inside her and when Sten mentions her relationship with the Warden she goes "lmao he doesn't own me I do what I want". She ONLY backed down because he scared her off by implying he would literally break her in two. If harmless flirting between Shadowheart and Halsin in BG3 caused such a shitstorm imagine the reaction that dialogue would get today.
>>541573927>If harmless flirting between Shadowheart and HalsinThey literally fuck
>>541573927Trvthnuke
Which ME and Dragon Age companion is the most chud-codded?
Obsidian should make a new original flagship IP, avowed kind of ruined pillars.
>>541575126I don't think any of them are fish
>>541574775Only if YOU the player actively go to a brothel and use their services. I'm talking characters acting independently. Shadowheart flirts with Halsin (and Wyll too) in act 3 during banter even if you're in a relationship with her. However none of those come close to the Morrigan/Sten banter.
>>541573927>because he scared her off by implying he would literally break herNot reallyShe is just being annoyingShe backs off because she enjoys teasing him knowing he will say no, the moment he says yes she's lost at her own game, you can hear her surprised even before he starts with the helmet thinghttps://youtu.be/pX9J6sv_mRI?t=260
>>541575126ME1 Ashley "I can't tell the aliens apart from animals " Williams. Morrigan for DAO. Solas for the rest. He wants to kill billions to revtrn to elven hyberborea. Though chuds tend to hate elves in fantasy series.
>>541575542in denial
>>541575542I mean whether she meant it or not the player's love interest actively teasing another dude to try to fuck her is still every cuck coded. Looking at you Wenduag.
>>541575441Again, the Sten thing is just banter, not only Morrigan makes clear to the player that she sees serious relationship as exclusive (a character trait shadowheart does not have, canonically), but you can see her react >>541575542 to Sten's "yes" surprised and scared before the whole "it will be painful thing"They should have added a way to confront morrigan about it, sure, but it's obvious it would have stayed banter, meanwhile the Shadowheart thing is clearly her writer who is also Halsin's writer making his two dollies get together>>541575845Obviously, she's a retard, that mcuh we can agree on>>541575830I posted the literal clipYou can see that "she ONLY backs down because..." is directly contraddicted by the dialogue
BG3 and its consequences have been a disaster for the crpg genre.
>>541576095In denial. Not my waifu!!! Is that you mintharatranny
>>541575845>wenduag just wants to fuck you cuz your strong>says she likes to fuck strong fags and doesn't want any of that feeling bullshit>surprised she flirts with other strongfagsdo people just not pay attention to the game? wenduag's normal modues operandi is being the bottom bitch of the strongest person in the room, she was fucking the cultist bitch from the maze before the KC showed up and she only starts to think of getting serious with the KC during act 4 when she gets drunk as fuck with the KC. before then its just causal fucking
>>541576435No, however I will add that the Shadowheart situation is indeed made even worse by Minthara explicitly saying she will not share or be sahred while Shadowheart just goes with it
>>541576095I think she does enjoy harmlessly teasing him but if the player had an option to confront her about it she might become a contrarian and go through with it, based on her personality and not wanting to feel controlled.But I think the reason it gets accepted and would still be is actually because she backs down eventually (as shown in the provided clip), like I wonder if there were some notes in the writers' room reminding the writers that they're making male empowerment fiction and not emasculation fantasies.
>>541570871When did Morrigan cuck you?
>swamp slut witch acts like a slutshocker
>>541577047Morrigan is definitely not a virgin they don't realize this
>>541577160> they don't realize thisI think its obvious she doesn't act like one, most people who romanced her are aware of this
>>541576565>do people just not pay attention to the game?A lot of waifufags genuinely do not care about a character's, well, character. They just superimpose their preferences ontop of them and get upset whenever it doesn't line up.
>>541577362I don't know you people are denying her being a slut whore
>>541577525Sounds like another win for mercenaryfags
I look forward to Swen's space game where your PC gets a blowie from the designated space elf gf
>>541577596I am denying that "She only backs down because of" because the game literally contraddicts you. She is immediately taken aback the moment Sten says "Yes".I didn't say she is a pure virgin with a nice housewife personality
remember when bioware had catfighting in their romances
Bioware games have the best cuckino
>>541565259>Demon is also tempting but again, also too evil and I wanted to lean more into being some crusader championWhen I played demon, my character chose that path because he was ready to do what it takes to close the Worldwound (and he had some anger issues, that's why he became a demon and not an angel). He got a bit corrupted towards the end, but always stood true to his original path.He also had a soft spot for Ember and killed Camellia when she wanted to kill her father, because he believed in family first and all that stuff.There's always a bit of space to do some roleplaying, if you're so inclined.
>>541578534Jaheira deserved it. She knows Aerie is older than her, but still tried to treat her like a child to get a leg up in the Bhaalspawn bowl.
>>541578534Morrigan and Leliana are actual gold>YOU DON'T THINK HE WOULD ACTUALLY CHOOSE YOU, RIGHT?!
Making all the companions player sexual is bad game design. The og baldurs gate games had the right idea, good and evil companions should eventually try to kill eachother and even you depending on the situation.
>>541578534>catfighting in their romancesMore games need this desu. I think WoTR had some party banter lines depending on who you picked when you get confronted.
>>541579353>Make argenta and amiri not playersexual>everyone loses their mind
Bg3 is the best selling crpg of all time and they have provenPlayersexual=good
>>541577795Im hoping shes into poly and dreaming like Shadowheart
>>541579993Waifus sell, faggots here stil deny it and seetheDH will flop unless they add some good waifus
>400 hp locust swarms that lag the game so much it's impossible to even fight themnice game design
Arcanum didn't need any waifus.
>>541580398>Veilguard had waifus and still flopped>Lex sold more than Void. >Ulbrig DLC best selling wotr dlcDeath to waifufags
>>541579993Why would I alter my opinion just because sales, especially when the vast majority of those sales came from people that never played a CRPG in their life and continued to not do so after finishing BG3?
Speaking of Origins banter, if any anon playing Origins wants to see it all, the Orzammar bridge seems to trigger it very easily, so just put the party members you usually avoid in, and run over the bridge repeatedly
Age of decadence didn't need any waifus.
>>541580506cap your fps at around 45-60 for all owlcat games. Hell, do it for all Unity games, the engine is horrible.
>>541580738you played the waifu
Fallout didn't need any waifus.
Why are Holy Smite and Order's Wrath spells so fucking BAAAAD!!!!!!!! Why is alignment based damage dealing WORSE!!!
>>541580541>>Veilguard had waifus and still floppedThey were all ugly and crine stop lying>>Lex sold more than Void. Worse reviews, most people bought pass, >>Ulbrig DLC best selling wotr dlcBecause all of the other ones were meh besides masksBull shit cope
Colony ship didn't need any waifus
>>541580889Tandi?
>>541580889ehm
Pillars didn't need any waifus.
>>541581018Ugly waifus still count.
>>541581263>>541581296Not romancable
>>541581187>Faythe was the most used companionUh huh.>>541581328Pillars was a husbando game.
>>541581328Pellegrina? Maia? Sad mom? that vaguely ethnic schizo?
>>541581520>PalleginaSawyer would rather die than let player dick/cunt anywhere near the cloaca of his chocolate waifu
>crpg fags literally have to headcanon in romances in games without romancesWhat causes this mental illness?
>>541581697You don't need a written romance to enjoy the female form.
>>541581328Aloth is mine>>541581697Rather they do that than cry about no dolly sex
owlcat are putting all the waifus in their not-mass effect. I don't think they are gonna have a big focus in dark heresy because dark heresy looks like its focused on investigations and supposedly whatever judgements you make effecting the game world (but its owlkek so it'll be broken/a dissapointment)
>>541582384>IP nobody knows over 40chudSure
All of you fags talking about waifus this romance that meanwhile all I want is for Owlcat to stop making HP bloated enemies. Can't believe I miss blobber RPG design where you would typically hit enemies 4 times and they would die.
>>541582384but I don't want to do detective puzzles
>>541582630But how else can people flex how they killed the bloated enemy in 1 shot
>>541582949Nobody does this anymore.
>>541583125I see it all the time
A little late to the morrigan discussion but since I have a playtrough and I am autistic I decided to test itSo, two thingsFirst of all the banter between her and sten happens in a very determinate order>He basically tells her she's not a real woman>He then compares her to a poisonous flowerThis is what triggers her eventual banter with him, when you see it in this light, it's obvious why she it took it personally to tease himSecondly>We already decided to have a serious thing and she already told me to leave Leliana>No matter how many times I go on the bridge her banter about sex simply will not start>If the banter is exhausted no dialogue will trigger>If I bring a new character (wynne) the banter will resumeI don't know if it was like this at release, but clearly if you are already in a relationship with her she will NOT start teasing Sten. This explains the "he doesn't own me" comment, because when you have her confrontation about Leliana she makes it pretty clear its monogamy or nothing. The banter only triggers before you have decided on being a serious thing.
Morriganfags still trying
>>541582630I wouldn't mind the hp bloat if they'd just have shorter dungeons in general. From the end of Kingmaker all through WotR and the later parts of RT its all a tedious slog.
>>541584519Thanks for doing the deep dive, anon, few would on the game at this point, with how old its getting.I might have to give it another play through soon, myself.
MORE LOVERS THAN TREES IN A FOREST
>>541584519>>541585016I was wrong!The game was bugged out!Another line triggered, where stens shits on her for being a mageAnd then finally the first line, where he tells her that she looks covered in eels or something like that and that's when she starts provoking himSo only my first point stands, she will banter either way, but onyl after Sten insults her in 4 different conversations
>>541585651None bog Cassia this time
>>541585391Still good to do the deep dive. I think those trying to equate Bioware's older work to contemporary products might have a better argument if they focused on her attire. Morrigan in general likes to manipulate others, usually men, for her own gain. She might be interested in sexual fidelity once in a relationship (likely due to dev pressure to keep the story a male empowerment fantasy) but she'll manipulate others using every tool she has available for her own gain, amusement and likely pleasure if she feels the impulse.
>>541585776
>>541586075Thats cute
>>541586075Also this Cassia sings in Russian
>>541585651Kibbles could lose some weight
>>541585651remember the dudes who say women don't play crpgs
>>541586053If I remember correctly she tells you that the first time she escaped the swamp she only stayed alive because she did the pretty face at a guard so that he would rescue her from some barbarians
>>541585651>weird jaw on yrlietkino
>>541586445you can cosplay things you haven't played
>>541582603compare the cover art and you'll see that everyone in not mass effect are glossy and attractive, then look at the dark hersy one where everyone has dirt and grime on them
>>541587212>One is a Kroot>The other is black edward scissorhandsI don't think them being dirty and grimy is the problem
>>541587212No you are just looking at the blonde woman. Stop being a braindead gooner.
Would romance options work better if they were exclusively non-party members? It would be less banter in missions but in most Owlcat games there's barely any good banter to begin with and most of the dialogues happen in town or in specific events anyway.
>>541587751yeahthey could give people a generic virginal farmgirl in every rpg that you return to for milk while she swoons about your adventures or whateverthen autists will never complain again
>>541587956They would make up how she bangs people when you aren't around
>>541587751>exclusivelyI think you can just have both
>>541585391Also interestingly, if you go to the Pearl (brothel) you can fuck every whore and she won't bat an eye, whoever she will get mad if you try with isabelaThis is a subtle reference to the fact that she can see the future, and knows about DA2. Thus she realizes its more likely for the player to catch an STD with isabela than with literal prostitutes.
>>541580528>>541580738>>541581187>>541581328who?
when does dark heresy release, did the devs hint at anything?really the only game together with slay the spire 2 im looking forward to atm
>>541589126No release date yet
>>541587956Don't they do this with Link? Not an rpg though, some might consider it one.
>>541589126>wanting another 40k game
>>541588876No she just wanted to spare the main character from having to be bullied into doing push ups for mentally ill qunari.
Threadly reminder he was right about literally everything.
>>541589709space marine is boring, cant stand mindless shooters
>>541589951then why did his last several games suck?
>>541589734Uhhh I was only talking about canon events anonWe don't talk about Veilguard here
>>541589951Hes talking about Shitbbles
>>541589951>"how Neeshka's author felt"I know this is ancient but this is the first time I actually took the time to read his stupid post.Who the fuck cares what the author feels about the character? They're being paid to write dialogue for a product to be sold.
>>541590023His games not selling well does not lessen his argument in any way
>not romancing the future popeIt's over for you anons
>>541590281I didn't say anything about sales. they were trash quality games. poorly made gameplay and lore and even more poorly put together. hell even new vegas is a straight up technical dumpster fire (more of the bad background stuff there is on Avelone tho.)
>>541590321I know it was 1998 or whatever but these models are gross
>>541590272>Who the fuck cares what the author feels about the character? They're being paid to write dialogue for a product to be sold.that's soulless but feeling that deeply for a character you made is delusional. same with the elizabeth faggot.
>>541589951seems reasonable to mein witcher 3 geralt just killed himself when youve chased more than one interest at the time cause at the end he had noone
>>541590471Those graphics were considered dated even in 2009 when it released.
>>541590909Good thing I'm a Trisschad
>>541591217
>>541590762Which one's the elizabeth one?
>>541540154>Ekundayo>Greybor>Ulfar
>>541591217Why don't we talk about the Witcher in here more? It seems like it never comes up despite Witcher 2 being one of the best crpgs ever made and Witcher 1 pushing the Infinity Engine far beyond its limits.
>>541591630
>>541591953I don't get it, did the writer for this have some kind of keyboard melty about her?
>>541591875>It seems like it never comes up despite Witcher 2 being one of the best crpgs ever madelol? 2 is easily the worst in the series. 1 has novelty and 3 has the climax. what the fuck would put 2 above them?
>>541591875>Why don't we talk about the Witcher in here more?It's not a crpg
>>5415923801 is categorically and spiritually. 2 and 3 are debatable (not really, they're not, but whatever.)
>>5415921232 has a succinct story with two main branching paths, the art style was also pretty decent for the time before it went full open world next-gen with the third installment.I feel more attention is put into the scenes and characters in 2 compared to 3 even though 3 is a very cinematic and even cozy experience. More importantly, 2 doesn't overstay its welcome where the third game feels like there's too much time spent meandering in the wilderness so its hard to feel like completing the actual thing in its entirety.The first one was good but it has a lot of rough edges so it comes in a close second behind the second installment.If we allow for standalone DLCs apart from the main I think I might rate Hearts of Stone and Blood and Wine above 2 though, but not if connected to the whole of 3.
>>541591746Why Ekun
>>541592037That's Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite. She came at a time when Source Filmmaker porn videos of her were flooding the internet. Ken Levine, the writer for Bioshock, came forward asking people to stop making so much porn of her because she felt like a daughter to him. She has a ton of very degenerate porn out there.
>>541587446compare and contrast, they are pretty obviously going for different things here
>>541594347
>>541594338Maybe he should stop looking up Elizabeth porn if he feels like the character is his daughter. its not like it was showing up in his inbox, or were people spamming it at him?
WTF THE QUEEN JUST PULLED A YRLIET ON METhankfully my resourceful goth swamp wife is very resourceful and has a made a ring to come pick up her bf
>>541594686>or were people spamming it at him?they were after that. thinking on it this way maybe it was just 4d chess.
>>541595086I still go back and watch the group intros to this quest for each companion pairing sometimes. This game is great. Need to go through it again sometime soon.
>>541595357The situation gets worse by the second
>>541595612you're supposed to let the companions handle it bro
>>541595690My character would try itBesides putting only one guard in the room with a mage was a poor choice, even without seduction I would have blasted down the door
>>541595086I actually never got to this part of the quest because I'm too autistic to lose to that one bitch who comes to arrest you. I have to abuse CC spells and doorways but I always win. But yeah Anora definitely set you up.
why is this fag spamming low res screenshots of his homosexual dolls
>>541595876I'm in too deep now
>>541596337walking around fully naked in WRPGS is SOVL
>>541596413And now, I reloaded for the girl POV
>>541598389send Sten and the Dog or you're gay
Yrliwhoretard
>>541598389Morrigan's breasts inflate two cup sizes in those robes, they must be padded.
Has Obsidian hinted at the next game they are going to release? Was the Arcanum 2 leaker right?
Why can't you guilt trip Yrliet into having sex with you?
Has owlcat hinted at the next game they are going to release after dark heresy and the expanse? Was the age of sigmar leaker right?
>>541595086what you get for betraying Alistair
>>541600234?He's there with me >>541595612
>>541599625The closest to that are some unnecessarily sadistic dialogue options after Comorragh around her spirit stone, if I recall.They stood out to me since they were unreasonably evil out of nowhere.But more to your question, its probably because of some marketing or HR reason in the writing that might bring a bad reputation to Owlcat.
>>541599625Cut content. You can make her be your pet when you find her in Cumrag but nothing comes of it.The original "evil clone Yrliet is the one who tricked you into going to Cumrag" plot was better
"Morrigan doesn't get better!" I was toldYet for the past 20 hours she hasn't bat an eye at me being good and now she's straight up going to negotiate to free some slaves
>>541605356NevermindMorrigan what the fuckOh well at least she doesn't get mad at me for being good anymore
>>541605786Morrigan what the fuckI thought we were past this bullshit
>6140+ DAO screenshots
>>541606313No, those are all my screenshots
Morrigan is just Kreia but hot
>>541606313that's just the total count he probably took 6000 screens of gay porn before
>Daoblog
>>541606718Do you want more waifu complaining
I’m excited to get a kroot companion
>>541609127Hope Owlcat doesn't make her insufferable
>>541606662>Fundamental misunderstanding of Kreia's motivations
>>541609127We already got a mandible alien waifu in Mass Effect Andromeda. Its really not appealing.
>>541606718Its kindof nice getting the playthrough updates and commentary. Feels more honest than some fucking youtuber or twitch thot doing it on a stream.
Kreia was retarded and had a fundamental misunderstanding of how the force works. She was pretty much the star wars version of a reddit atheist.
>still no info on owlcats orginal ipIm losing faith.
>>541610258Let me guess, you understand the force better than a highly qualified Jedi master
>>541610258the Force is literally sentient and puppeting everyoneKreia is 100% right
>>541610882>highly qualified All of her students ended up schizo failures.
Who is better Owlcat or Obsidian?
>>541610016>blind and shit tasteImpressive
>temple of elemental evil got delayed againSeriously wtf is going on?
When's the next cprg coming out?
>>541612192Old Obsidian is better but owlcat is better then new obsidian.
>>541611164So did Obi-Wan's
>>541612192>>537615609>>537617020
Why doesn't Owlcat add Kino to their soundtracks?https://youtube.com/watch?v=86lHZMGWWiQ
>but owlcat is better then new obsidian.Owlcat hasn't made a game as good as pillars yet. Every game they have made turns into a auto battler halfway through act 2. Not to mention how buggy they are.
>>541613432based text
Wrath of the Righteous combat seems kinda boring compared to Rogue Trader. Does it get better?
Discworld crpg when
>>541615170if Sir Terry Pratchett were still with us I have no doubt he'd be heading a team working on a Discworld CRPGThe story of him contacting and working with an Oblivion modder is great
>>541615978Just like the heckin cool Witcher creator was heading a team to make the Witcher rpg
shitty derivative garbage "writer" nowhere near Pratchett, apples and oranges
>>541510057>UnderrailI just finished going through the game again (last time was around 2017) and this time with a burstAR-metal armor build.I still think the game can have some pretty stupid design decisions (needlessly tedious, merchants don't sell enough ammo, don't have enough coins, high strength doesn't actually increase your carry weight because high strength gear weight negates the increased limit, etc.) and also how the DLCs don't have endgame loot with most of them being around quality 100-150 at most, which is nowhere as good as Deep Caves' q150-180 component drops, which is ridiculous for how much more difficult they are.
>>541617061Oh also Heavy Duty is pretty mediocre, big guns are just annoying to use with how overkill they are for most encounters and how they're only marginally more effective for how much dedication your build has to be to use them with their high strength requirement.Also the expansion quest/story is really more like a playtest area with super tough encounters. You can still get the special ending with zero stealth characters with stealth gear+cloak device though, so people saying you need stealth character for that are wrong, though I won't say it's worth going for since it's just a puzzle/minigame with a lot of RNG.
>>541616915>thinks writing comedy fiction makes you a good writer
>>541594347no shit, the tone of 40k and the expanse couldn't be any different, not really sure what point you thought you were making
>>541616915Take out the pastiche and references to original works, and there's nothing left of discworld
try getting your attention fix by making interesting discussion topics instead of 0/10 bait
>>541618737Because no sexy women on the cover = game bad. Anons are coombrained.
>>541612192Who the fuck in the entire Star Wars universe didn't raise failures, Both the Jedi Order and the Sith collapsed to the virge of extinction multiple times.
Game with centaur companion when
So is this general finally ready to stop being the biggest contrarians ever and admit baldurs gate three is a good game?
>>541624489Knights of the chalice 2.
>>541624678>5e>goodIf anything, it's a statement on how terrible 5e is that automating most of its gameplay turns it "decent" and people with no taste eats it up because it's the "most popular TTRPG system"
>>541624678Why do you post this every day? Are you a bot?
>>541624678No because its popular
>>541624804Why do the screencaps and trailers on steam look like they come from two different games?
>>541625152lol, the same can be said for pathfinder
*Is the only challenging encounter in your path.*The tutorial spawn, this guy, and Cinder on footfall are usually three toughest three in my runs.
Which mythic path is the strongest? Not in terms of gameplay, but in terms of lore?My ranking would be Aeon > Swarm > Angel / Lich > everything else
>>541624678>>541625152>>5416260215e is good for actual tabletop gameplay where you don't want to keep track of dozens of different things just to make an attack roll or save.3e+ is generally better due to the level of customizations involved and the level of detail to different environmental, character state, buffs, and all the other sources that can effect the modifiers. The issue is, it gets annoying in actual tabletop gaming.The thing is, once you're writing a computer game that automates all the calculations for you, the one strength of 5e (being the weakness of 3e+) is solved, and now you've sacrificed the level of customizations 3e+ offers and settled for a plainer experience with 5e even though both games take care of everything for you in the background.The only reason 5e is used in videogames is because wotc is pushing for it, it's the product they're selling. Pathfinder was more fun from a combat point of view than bg3, the amount of viable builds is endless. And all the calculations happen in a second in the background.
>>541626557kys as usual
>>541627167>aeon can revert the queen's age because she used magic to keep herself unnaturally young>no option to revert the tranny to a male even though he used magic to change his natural genderwoke game0/10
Dark Heresy waiting room.Although the other RT dlc are exciting too.Osiris is probably the furthest away.
>>541627493are the rt dlc stand alone stories like those pathfinder wotr dlc?
>>541627392>no option to revert the tranny to a male even though he used magic to change his natural genderAeon reverted Galfrey's age because she was failing at her job at the elixirs were granted specifically because of her worth as a queen. Following your full retard logic, the aeon should run around killing people who were resurrected, lopping off restored limbs, reinfecting people who cured diseases, blowing up structures that were made with the help magic, et cetera.
>>541627545So far they've been integrated into the main character story, but they're sort of their own little adventures. So they're not like Through The Ashes if that's what you're asking. You're the Rogue Trader for all of them. If you don't activate the dlc, then your character just never meets the Arbites or the death cult.
>>541627167Aeon is weird because they're severely limited to just time shit. It doesn't actually make them powerful. After all, your original Aeon self got obliterated by fucking Deskari. Angel and Demon are both demigod tier and Lich can even bring back dead demon lords, which arguably puts it above even them.
yikes can you all get back to cuckposting if this is the alternative?
>>541627784Aeon commander can't really be compared to a regular aeon. Plemoras are pretty strong, but they aren't shit to a demigod.
>>541627167They're all equally powerful because your real strength is your mythic juice. Everyone's always just going to say whatever their favourite is.
>>541628093*cease to exist*
>>541627274The "it's all automated by the computer" argument to justify bloat and having 40 redundant modifiers is so bizarre. I struggle to see the logic beyond "5E is too streamlined so it's bad" - to which the counterpart is simply "3.x/PF is too bloated so it's bad." More is not always better. 5E is both limiting and more elegant in some ways. Being able to concentrate on only one spell sucks, but it prevents the idiotic buff stacking that plagues 3.x/PF.3.x/PF having more customization (build diversity) is the only legit argument here, though how much more it has compared to 5E tends to be overstated. And in the context of video games - where everything is automated - this can ironically backfire and lead to a decrease in build diversity, as players eventually figure out it's better to chase modifier stacking. Your super special snowflake build is not allowed to play if it can't beat 40 AC or whatever the target is. 5E being so noob-friendly has the benefit of allowing player expression - arguably one of the main reasons you would care about gameplay in the first place.
I need solasta 2 NOW!
>>541521725If they grabbed specifically the TTRPG, likely the FFG one considering they're doing dark heresy the other 2 option could be>black crusadechaos fuck around game parties tend to be a mix of cultists and CSM>Only warall guardsmen all the way down so altho my favorite of the systems knowing owl cat least likely>Death watchyou are all death watch space marines so everyone is usually a different chapter and has alot of focus on a mechanic called squad cohesionso yeah the other 2 games most likely to have been picked up by them will be very SM centric
>>541508410So how good are shields in Rogue trader?
Started Rogue Trader, I like it somewhat, but I think the intro is really railroaded, which other CRPGs did better at giving you more freedom even during the very first part. I mostly just want to have an adventure in a 40K setting, so I'll keep on with it. Does it open up later?
>>541627742>>541627493nobody cares
>>541630896Yeah the first star system has three locations that can be tackled in any order. After that you end up in a gateway station called Footfall where you can wander around and explore, but you have to complete a couple of quests before your ship is repaired and you can leave Then the map completely opens up and you can explore star systems as you please. Some are major locations, others are more like little away missions, others are just little dialogue locations
>>541630460I found them very useful, especially for Abelard
>>541627493>>541627742everybody cares
>>541630896Oh btw ship-to-ship combat is surprisingly tough early on. You might think you can repair at Footfall but you can't. You can only repair using scrap you acquire from winning space battles. So play it safe until you level up the ship a bit.
>>541627726Yes.Total Imbalance Death
Have the waifufags tried going outside and smiling at asian girls? it would improve their lives
Solasta 2 will be crpg of the year.
Solasta 2 will not release this year
What is an owlcat?
>>541636948every day through their windows
>>541637861a owl with cat like abilities
>>541627274You could've just summed it up with 5e being the Skyrim of DnD.
>>541637861Relative of owlbear
What is a bioware?
>>541641101organs
Question for lore fags, what makes elminster the greatest chosen of mystra? Almost all of the other chosen of mystra seem better than him on paper.
who else is high af right now?
>>541642436DUDE WEED LMAO
>>541594338>Ken Levine, the writer for Bioshock, came forward asking people to stop making so much porn of her because she felt like a daughter to himThat kinda turned me on even more
>celestial and dragon favored enemies Why?
rogue tranny V. Solasta superior gameplay: Solasta superior C&C: Solastasuperior class design: Solasta superior cuckolding romance(s): rogue trannyOwlslopper: n-no my slop and japanese pedo vns are the best rpgs because they have romance...
>>541643498Ok
If sawyer wasn't lazy pillars 3 would be out by now
Does ATOM ever become anything other than a collection of russian memes
>>541643969thank the lord for small favors I guess
You shouldn't be complaining that there is a ton of russian memes in the game, russian memes are the funniest thing on earth.
>>541643498filtered by superior combat mechanics?
>>541644354this, sawyer is a blight on the crpg community, he should stop making games
>>541644471more just annoying than anything else. worked on some good dungeon crawlers 20 years ago and a few decent games a decade ago yet faggots treat him like some holy figure.
>owldrones hating on sawyerOwlcat games aren't even games they all stop being hard halfway through act 2. They are all just slav jank power fantasy simulators.
>>541644612I'm pretty sure dark heresy will be their first game with absolutely no redeeming qualities so they might be joining sawyer in the "peaked at the start of their career" club sooner rather than later.
Both sawyer and owlcat admit they got mogged by bg3 and now they both want to make a bg3 clone btw.
BG3 trannies inferiority complexes will never not be funny.
>annoying faggots desperately trying to bait console wars autism arguing with other annoying faggots desperately trying to bait console wars autismamazing
>>541641101
>>541594338
5e is a better system than 3e, concentration keeps wizards from buff spamming and other game breaking combos.
>>541644612I've hated sawyer and his stupid balance obsession that sucks the fun out of any system since before owlcat even existed you stupid fucking zoomer.Just look at the system in pillars of eternity where he treated everything like a spreadsheet of numbers and didn't bother with what each stat represents from a roleplaying perspective. Priests benefit from high might and barbarians benefit from high INT. He's an utter retard that shouldn't design crpgs.
owldrone bg3: game quality toilets after 20 minutes, remainder of the game is unvoiced fetch quests and romancing a single mother very vocal about her past
>>541644990>noooooooo different is scary noooooo
>5e is a better system than 3e, concentration keeps wizards from buff spamming and other game breaking combos.
>>541644990>barbarians cant be smart
finding out where sawyer lives so you can stuff essays on why poe is bad in his mailbox and dumpsterfire sales figures under his door
>>541645162clever =/= intelligenta fine distinction and one that doesn't really fall on a stat sheet, which is the essence of anons complaint.
>>541641889Being the author's pet OC.
>>541645231Conan spoke like 12 languages and knows tons of ancient lore from his adventures. He was very intelligent and clever.
theatre kids: DND is mine now white boy, no spells for you
>>541645342>Conan spoke like 12 languagesthat he learned on the fly, not studied. again fine distinctions.>and knows tons of ancient lore from his adventures.see above.I'm not saying he's retarded. I rank craftiness and a clever mind higher than a studied one since it moves quicker in the moment. his int is 11 at best tho.
>>541645231Are you suggesting that RPGs should have separate Cleverness and Intelligence stats?
>>541645435> his int is 11 at best tho
>>541645652No I'm suggesting you can't put that to stats since it's on the player. You can't bullshit your way through cleverness like you can wizard tech talk.
>>541645435>being able to learn a language in a week isnt high INT
>>541645162why does a priest need to be buff to improve the effectiveness of his healing?
>>541645656>David Cooklolno
>>541645790muscle strength should also correspond to magic strength.
>>541645656>Fighter 13 Thief 7>not Barbarian
>>541645751your average dishwasher spic or african """migrant""" speaks multiple languages. it's really not that hard. his speed is what shows him more acute than most.
>>541645790Why would an adventurer not be in good shape?
>>541645920Wizards are book smart. They train their mind not body.
>>541645790Muscles act as part of the immune system. How could you expect to heal others, if your body can't even heal itself?
>>541645896>it's really not that hardThe hard part is the whole im a week thing thats something only someone with an extremely high iq can do.
>>541645991intelligent people are in good shape. they should add a separate chud attribute that corresponds with imaginary intellect (helps you cast higher level racial slurs and be an incel)
>>541646017This might be the crux of our disagreement. What do you think IQ is? It's not "how smart you are" aka INT it's "how quickly you understand" which I classify as cleverness. Have you ever taken an IQ test? It's not testing if you know the answer it's testing if you can figure them out quickly.
>>541645991That's why you should always do a fighter -> wizard dual class.
>>541646119How quickly you understand things is directly correlated with how smart you are.
Why is it so fucking hard for some devs to just make characters attractive instead of making them ugly on purpose, no one wants to look at ugly mugs.
>>541646191Int is a very specific stat. It is not IQ or general "smartness" or whatever you mean throwing that word around, it's how much you know. Wisdom is the understanding stat.
>>541645991The party is leaving this dude behind the first time they have to run from something
>>541646309>*casts grease*not today fucko
>>541646268INT and WIS shouldn't even be separate stats that is a retarded hold over from dnd.
>>541646395lmao clearly your int and wis are both in the negative since we're trying to stat him based of dnd
>>541646367What are you going to do when he gets up after one turn of being knocked down and still chases you down
heh and thus the superior and intellectual wizard deleted the jock - i mean orc with a single fireball while all the dumb 8 int martials just stood around5E: *blocks your path* this ends now, chud
>>541646268>. It is not IQ or general "smartness"Literally is in dnd
>>541646509>implying I didn't cast grease in front of the partythis is a practical example of int and wis in tandem you see
>does the barbarian benefit from INT? AAAIIIIEEEE THATS TO DIFFERENT IM GOING INSANEno wonder crpgs are a stagnant and dead genre
>>541646567>5E>>541646648>class focus on mindless rage>but what if they thought :^)
>sawyer in this thread trying really hard to justify why in his game a priest has to be stronger than a barbarian in order to heal better and how the barbarian has to be more intelligent than a wizard to be an effective cruncherlmao
>>5416466872e is barley any different
I'm just saying no one complains about how in jrpgs your healing is often tied to your power stat.
deadfire turned a profit chud.
>>541646907no one takes japs seriously
>>541646821I'll revise my earlier point and put conan at a solid 12 by these descriptions. that's flavor levels and fine.
>conan le snowflake character is a superduper barbarian genius so all barbarians need to be the same
>>541646975>able to learn a language in a week That puts him at a solid 16. Irl only people with IQs in the 140 range are able to accomplish that.
>>541646812>dumping ability duration and aoe on a wizardYou should be low int
>>541647069a language isn't a task. hard 12, take it or leave it.
>>541647069No they can't, high iq doesn't make you competent in a language in a week, what conan did is straight up fantasy.You're a dumb linguisticslet.
>>541647058Conan is THE barbarian, all barbarians should he like him.
>>541647149Okay I take my comment back but still conan is some sort of legendary standard. Nvm barbarians, which character can have enough skill points and attribute points to achieve the levels conan has? Maybe 3e epic levels would allow you something like that, but it isn't normal.
Realistically conan should have 18 int.
>>541647225nah don't concede anything to this brainlet. you have a point about him being a super barbarian but he's still not pumping int. he's just super crafty and clever which all barbs should be anyway but doesn't really have an analogous stat.
The conan country in pathfinder is the one with all the sci-fi tech.
>>541647285give me his full stats and lets see if it's feasible in any system to build a character like him without relying on super rare lucky 2e rolls that give you 18 across the board.>>541647314wouldn't something like wisdom do? So in 5e atleast survivability is tied to wisdom.
Conan is the God-Emperor in his early days so his int is high but his wisdom is low
>>541647335barbarians vs mech monsters is pretty kino juxtaposition ngl
Name a crpg with better combat design then pillars.
Which crpg had the highest number of amazing waifus
>>541647389*since (you), sawyer, are a brainlet, I'll explain that the * is a wildcard meaning anything can be placed there.
>>541647379>wouldn't something like wisdom do? So in 5e atleast survivability is tied to wisdom.it's close but really craftiness in a character will only come from behind the character ie (You) or the DM.>>541647382that's backwards but an understandable mix-up. big E was definitely high int low wis tho.
>>541647379Garry statted conan at every age so here you go.
>>541647443BG2 probably has the highest ratio since all 3 are good. Morrigan and Leliana also have pretty much no downsides.
>>541647503everything except wisdom is 18-19, so my point stands, this isn't something feasible for your average barbarian.
>>541647443Io Mass Effect series has no bad waifus, with the exception of Jack if you dislike her full tats, adittude and shaved head, though some anons are into that
>>541647672some anons are into anything that moves and a few things that don't
INT barbarian in pillars is fun what is this autist even mad about?
>>541647723it's gay and you're gay for liking it
>>541647723Stop changing your stupid arguments, sawyer. And while you're at it, stop making games please.
>its bad because....>ITS JUST BAD OKAY
>anon posts conan stats>suddenly its clear these aren't feasible for a character>suddenly the whole int barbarian argument fails>b-but it's fun so it's okay!sawyer you're embarrassing yourself, mate.
>INT barbarian is bad because I dont like itWow.
>>541648195
>>541648195Explain why a barbarian needs high INT and why a priest needs high STR.And I don't mean in poe mechanics I mean from a sensical point of view since sawyer could have easily tied the same outcomes to different attributes.If all you care about are numbers then you're a brainlet.
>>541647978What the fuck are any of you talking aboutHow do conan's stats in a different system have anything to do with pillarsThere's no reason to dump/max any stat in pillars in the first place
>>541648297>Explain why a barbarian needs high INT To use his skill more efficiently >priest needs high STR.Physical and magical strength should be the same stat.
>>541647443BG3, all are pretty good looking and have nice romance
>>541648586>a femdom frog>a whore>muh bittersweetlol
Just found out that int isn't good for casters and wis and cha are casting stats for everyone in kotor. Shaking and crying.
>>541645882Conan confirmed as human male fighter
>>541647672What about Jacob?
Honestly underrail had the right idea INT determines how many spells you can learn and willpower determines how strong they are. Having your magical strength tied to your INT has always been dumb.
>>541648818because that makes sense for jedi. make it make sense for priests and mages and barbs as they exist in pillars.
>>541648883Thought he meant women
This movie is fucking shit.
Jedi should be CON casters since their powers come from their midichlorians activating in their cardiovascular system.
>>541648913It really just depends on the world. You can make most stats work for casting if you make the backdrop right. In DnD int does help wizards because they have to study and understand spells, and more understanding leads to more clarity in action. Wisdom helps clerics because they have to divine what pleases their god. Sorcs use cha because it just comes natural to them. Conversely in anons kotor example force powers scale on cha and wis because the Force is a more spiritual function of their reality.Int barbs will never work this way tho fwiw.
>>541649084No it's not
>>541648974You're the only retard here insisting that priests and mages should have low int.
>>541649219You must be mixed up anon. Wasn't me.
>>541649010Everyone's a woman to commander Shephard.
>>541649264What's even the problem here then? Is everyone sperging out because someone misunderstood how you're supposed to build pillars characters?
>>541649371No everyone is shitting on pillars' retarded class stats and one guy is seething about it.
>priests and mages should have low int.Low INT mages and priest suck ass in pillars your spell duration is so low you do like zero damage as mage and barley anything at all since you buffs go away so fast as priest.
You can just admit pillars combat system is to high iq for you
>>541649428But you retards fundamentally don't understand how the stats work. It's like arguing that pathfinder is shit because you think not dumping dex on a sorcerer means that it should be their main stat.
>>541649453My pillars mage is BIG and STRONGINTsissies can cry about it
Dex is a main stat for casters because they need fast hands to cast spells quickly.
>>541649635>But you retards fundamentally don't understand how the stats workyou keep saying this but you haven't tried once to explain why they're so retarded this whole time
>>541649371every once in awhile someone spergs out about pillars, probably the same person every timeThey are either just looking for attention, or somehow have no idea that systems other than DnD/PF exist, and are upset about the one used in Pillars. They cite "balance" as a bad thing, but what they mean is they're upset that every stat has an impact with every character. I don't know, I guess they prefer every cleric being almost identical, or wizard, or fighter... Just copy-paste the stat distribution and play the template.I had a lot of fun with my fast but weak high-int barb. Double hatchets for high interrupt, and terrifying everyone with shouting. Stunlocking groups of enemies with flailing around and screeching.
Underrail has the best system everyone should just copy them.
>>541649453Low int Muscle Wizard is very effective in Pillars, what are you talking about? I really wonder if some of you retards even play the games you sperg out about
>>541650060>Low int Muscle Wizard is very effective in Pillars, what are you talking aboutHave you tried playing the game on the highest difficulty?
>>541650190I consider Path of the Damned to be the intended experience, so yes of course.
fuck evil women
>>541649635I thought the only reason to go sorcerer was arcane trickster to focus on ranged touch attacks+sneak attack damage gimmicks?Which would mean throwing it all into DEX after CHA.
>the only reason to go sorcererretard
>>541650287>fuck cam>immediately tell anevia to arrest herheh nothin personnel
Sawyer optimized the fun out of his own system.
>>541649854Multiple people have explained it now, anon. Int isn't the barb's main stat. Mages and priests need duration/aoe and shouldn't have lower int unless you're going for a pure nuker build with some specific spells. There's high int builds you can do for martials but Sawyer's autism always tries to push you towards balancing your stats. In Deadfire it's even more punishing since pretty much every stat is worthwhile to have at least a bit of on a barb.
>>541650437So you want to play the same exact Fighter as everyone else, pumped Str, decent Dex/Con, and dump the rest, like billions before you.That's fine. But what I don't get is seeing how a system that allows for more flexibility is less fun in your opinion.
The only fun class in pillars is monk if you dump resolve.
>>541650561>but Sawyer's autism always tries to push you towards balancing your stats.this is why it's retarded. cope how you like.
>>541650573>So you want to play the same exact Fighter as everyone else, pumped Str, decent Dex/Con, and dump the rest, like billions before you.>we're not like other systems :)))lollmao even>But what I don't get is seeing how a system that allows for more flexibility is less fun in your opinion.having to pump more stats doesn't add flexibility retard it just makes you less efficient overall. you seem to forget about the "R" in "RPG".
>>541650706>moving the goalposts
>>541650854I'll allow you to save some face here and just accept that as a concession. I hope you got the attention you were looking for!
I cant think of a game with a better stat system than underrail.
Character attributes with a lot of granularity are a leftover from an earlier, simpler time where games were more emergent and sandboxy and meant to be played around a table.After 3e as more tables moved towards point buy over random rolling it stopped actually mattering what your stats were. As though anyone wasn't going to roll a wizard without max int, or a fighter without max strength.Attempts to hammer this stuff towards some kind of even spread like Pillars does are silly, because the flaw is in how the system is approached fundamentally and how the games are primarily played.
>>541650940Alright concession accept. ggez
Euthanasia for minmax autists.
>>541651015This isnt min/max autism. This is just pointing out how its retarded for a barbarian to have a high INT stat
After playing Pillars I found the DnD and PF approach really limiting. You really do have to just play into the archetype for every class and your specific rogue or cleric or whatever will generally be almost identical to everyone else's.
Conan is THE barbarian and he has high INT.
Is there a crpg with a summoning class that's actually good and fun to play?
>>5416516915e druid
>>541651691druid in ToEE
Quick question about Planescape Torment.Is asking for payment before doing a quest an evil thing to do?My character alignment is evil and I can't see anything else from my actions that would have led to this.
Conan, like Aragorn, is a human male fighter.
When's the next crpg coming out so this general stops arguing over nothing.
>gives the enemy -10 accuracy for 7.2 seconds>activates my +7 accuracy for 5.4 seconds>takes a quest to get abortion drugs to the whores without alerting the red hats>salutations stranger, welcome to the fifth boughs, i come from the nation of zenhald, between oksos and kalik. In my native lands men work the hearth and the favored dish is quiche pastavery cool failed bg clone saywer
>>541508410Josh status?
>>541509108>DAI was the time in my life I tried to roleplay as a religious person>Game goes out of its way to shove in your face that nothing that happened was holy, that the maker is probably not real and that the shitty elves religion was the real one.I will never forgive that game.
>>541652651https://kotaku.com/unity-exploit-update-obsidian-pillars-eternity-2-removed-steam-2000631633
>>541652534you're mixing up games now bro
>>541648785>a femdom frogAm I missing something? Which character is this? Is it a dlc thing?
>>541650437exactly this, he's so obsessed with it he never things of what would be fun.Why do we need autistic levels of optimizations in a single player party based rpg?
my little death cultist can't possibly be this cute
my game system was perfect, it just flopped i mean under preformed expectations because it didnt have bg3 funding for full voice acting and cinematics
>>541653176This is all in your head though. Pillars is fun, and it isn't "autistic levels of optimization", what the fuck does that even mean?Give some examples of this optimization and how it ruins fun. Or is this some kind of "I'm going to pretend to be retarded ha i trold u" thing?
boring spells, boring feats, boring abilities, thus boring combatfallout you can shoot a man in half or light one on fire. poe you get + accuracy for 3 seconds
Ahh, I see, you're a moron just talking to get some kind of engagement. Good luck I guess.
Why is Sawyer so lacking in imagination, bros
>>541652826And just before the end of the sale too. How unfortunate.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RogueTraderCRPG/comments/1nzh77v/in_dlc_iii_for_warhammer_40000_rogue_trader_youll/Owlkek dropped a teaser for RT DLC 3
>>541653442Not that anon but I get mild choice paralysis picking attributes in character creation. Since Pillars evens the attributes out somewhat I start wanting to pick attributes based on RP decisions and then start to think about how hamstrung my character will end up being simply because I value certain attributes conceptually more than the devs may have.Usually I just end up picking what I think might make me more effective instead and find its relatively fine but by midgame I always wish I had some speedier build and most of the RP concept has gone out the window by then.I tend to want to build high resolve, high dex characters but I also don't want them to be frail, and want them to be effective in combat, but I dislike playing bard types (chanters) which may take advantage of the resolve attribute more than what I typically play (rogue concepts or dex-fighter concepts).
the obsdiot cycle>my shit game isnt shit<it flopped>explain why its shit<explains>pffft yeah whatever, still eating shit chud
>>541654217Here the non reddit link so you don't have to visit that websitehttps://x.com/OwlcatGames/status/1975169785898860877
>>541654502>Dive deeper into Necron conflicts Sounds like a snoozefest
wow something happened on reddit again owlslopper? cool stay there
>>541654502Necrons were the worst part of Rogue Trader. Just boring long slog fights.
Why don't they do a DLC with just a ton of cool planets for act 4. Just loads of errands and short quests
>>541654224You can do a rogue riposte build in deadfire. It's kinda what I ended up with for my cipher/trickster.
>>541654875To get sales you need a hook, something the DLC is about, something you can market
Do we have a single crpg dev without some schizo who'll shit his pants in rage the second anyone posts about them?
>>541641889He has a huge dick
>>541655025>Mysteries of the Halo Stars>Within these uncharted reaches lie great wonders and greater terrors. Dare you step boldly first into this deadly realm?Just a high level section of the map with a bit of story to it
>>541655136Warren Spector
Why is Irabeth a half-orc? What did the writers want to explore by making her one?
>>541654875People lost their shit about space cop's DLC being 'too late' to the point where they had to patch him in earlier
>>541655538Probably something like "half-orcs exist in the setting"Does every choice to be something other than human require the writers to intend something specifically?
>>541655764Yeah, like Regill sometimes brings up his bleaching.Irabeth being a half-orc should make her more assertive and aggressive, less cool-headed. Instead the story depicts her as easily broken and demoralized. Nothing about her says "half-orc" except her portrait being kindof green and Shrek-like.
>being a half-orc should make her more assertive and aggressive, less cool-headedyawn
>Orcs should be the same as humans in every way, except green colored.yawn
Half-orcs should be mexican
Every member of every race should be the same person
Khalid is the most memorable fighter in any CRPG and that's because he's a huge coward
Half-Orcs should get bonuses for more extreme dialogue checks, both good and evil
My setting? A grim, dark fantasy.All the sex in it? Consensual.
>>541654502Can 1 join me
Camellia is such a beautiful name, but now it's forever tainted for me.
>>541658828No clankers allowed on the flagship
>>541659294But
>>541651839I think so, yeah. I don't remember if Planescape lets you know when an action is evil.
>>541659425No buts, elantach it's actually Yrliet who won't allow it, same as Argenta wouldn't allow the helbrute or whatever
>>541651839Yes that usually gets evil points>>541659456It does not. Nor does it identify chaos or order choices
>>541659547I would gladly kill Yrliet for a robot
>Got to ACT 4>Suddenly "Have you ever considered that the demons who rape and kill and kill and rape and boil a dude in healing water until his meat become all tender and force his team mates to eat it might have feeling too" out of fucking nowhere????? I am larping as a good guy here but what the fuck man?
>>541660389It’s a pretty consistent theme of the game that all the demons are pathetic miserable losers though
>>541655538>you arrive to see a muscular green she-orc swinging a sword and shouting orders in a suit of chainmail that doesnt appear to protect her breasts, stomach, or thighs. 'you there, human boi. i am a barbarian of imodea here to help the pathetic hummies, even though their small cocks could never please a green woman.'
>>541660389Yes, being a demon is suffering.>Die>Get booted to the abyss>Coalesce with other soul fragments into a fucking maggot>Spend years eating shit and grime until you evolve into a normal demon living in the shittiest place in the cosmos>You have now lost the ability to make good decisions. Your demonic nature now forces you to choose the most retarded options possible, even if it's downright counter intuitive to what you want to doLike the other anon says, all demons are pathetic, miserable losers, and the demon lords are the biggest losers of all because even nearing godhood doesn't stop them from being slaves to their nature. There's a reason why Nocticula so desperately wants to no longer be a demon.
I can't believe you fags spent like 100 posts shit talking pillars, even when you're on topic you can't help but be boring
>>541661728>>541660889Is it even worth it trying to sympathy with them? If it is their nature to be evil then do they even feel bad about what they do? Do they even want to be "saved"? Desna had to give Arue a deep dicking to make her stop being a slut and even then not really
*spits out blood*i didnt hear no bell owlsloppers, POE is game of the decade. your words and logic cant change that
Pillars of Eternity, a game that inspired nothing and nobody.
>>541660389Anon, Ember is a crazy prophet type of girl.
back our kickstarter so we can make the epic rpg the publishers are always holding us back from making!!*makes shitty BG knockoff*w-we didnt have enough money like larian...
>>541662114Nocticula didn’t need any help to realize being a demon sucks.
remember when obsidian was hot shit off their fallout 3 mod beating their chest about the publishers always sabotaging them? then failed independently publishing and became game pass devs
>>541647443Divinity Dragon Commander
obsidian derangement syndrome
>>541660389Ember wants to redeem everyone
remember when you thought anonymity on 4chan would allow the free exchange of honest opinions, independent of any pretense? then it turns out we're just a bunch of monkeys who can't read and can only communicate with memes
One thing I've felt about Obsidian for as long as I've known them as a studio is that they're decidedly mediocre, and from the general reception of their games among both the press and gamers at the time, their games were widely regarded to be such, too. At best they're flawed gems, at worst they're derivative slop the devs phoned in to get a paycheck.The only reason I can think of why people hold Obsidian in such high regard is that they kept making RPGs when the market was drier than the Sahara desert. RPG was a dead genre according to big publishers, yet Obsidian kept trying. Kudos for that, I guess. Doesn't change the fact that their games were always mediocre. Flat, muddy water may be better than no water at all when you're in the desert, but when you get back home and take a fresh bottle of sparkling water from your fridge, you realize how colossal the difference is.Early in Obsidian's career, they were essentially the little brother of Bioware, doing sequels and spinoffs of Bioware games.KotoR 2 was their first, and while Avellone's take on Star Wars lore is interesting and the writing is great, but many Star Wars fans were disappointed by how un-Star Wars it feels because of that. Also the level and encounter design is significantly worse than the original KotoR's, many locations feel rushed, and parts of it were unfinished, to the point that modders took years to create a proper restoration project.Excepting New Vegas, they had nothing but mediocrities under their belt. The reception of their games among both gamers and press has always been lukewarm. Not great, not terrible, just serviceable. Certainly not best RPG ever material. Usually lacking compared to the original game it was a sequel to. Fans of KotoR, NWN, Dungeon Siege were all disappointed with Obsidian's sequels. Not the worst thing ever, but not as good as the original.
>>541647545Leliana does drop your ass to go suck some old priestess's cunt the second her game ends.That is a pretty big downside.
>>541663787you really typed all that when you could have said obsidian is mid
>>541663673beats the bad opinion novellas tbqh
>>541663787You don’t need to pad and repeat yourself to reach the word count on 4chan bro
>>541663952He always does that
>>541660389>Ember: we should try to decrease the suffering in all aspects of life>Lawtistfags: ...and I took that personally.
>>541664519not everyone who types more than a paragraph is your bogeyman calm down
>>541662114>Is it even worth it trying to sympathy with them?For the average person? Probably not. It's like seeing a guy who wants to fuck kids or became a serial killer after having a traumatic brain injury. It's easy to sympathize with his plight, but he still needs to go to jail at the end of the day.
>>541664639he always does that
>>541659691>It does not. Nor does it identify chaos or order choicesWhen did CRPGs become a genre for brainlets who need everything spelled out for them?
>>541664864stop being a little bitch ass crybaby
>>541664625She really said this
After their first two games, SW:KotOR and NN2, Obsidian was given considerable resources and freedom on two games by Sega as a publisher, but Obsidian's ineptitude eventually resulted in one game (with the Aliens IP) being cancelled and the other requiring Chris Avellone to jump into project leadership in order to save it from development hell. The company was extraordinarily fortunate that Bethesda Softworks selected it in 2009 to develop another Fallout game with Bethesda's FO3 engine and assets. The popular credit that Obsidian accrued from Fallout: New Vegas combined with Kickstarter and the company's roots in Black Isle to enable an attempt at developing its own original games with minimal publisher input (though still relying on Paradox Interactive as a publisher), but the results were the mediocrities of PoE in 2015, Tyranny in 2016, and PoE II in 2018, necessitating a sale to Microsoft. Obsidian's supposed potential never existed due to poor corporate leadership, and any illusions to that effect should have been dispelled a decade ago if not earlier.
evil and good and law and chaos are merely labels what really matters is being yourself
>>541665293I am Neutral Evil irl
I recently started playing Rogue Trader after the new Lex Imperialis DLCI'm halway thru the 2nd Chapterman this game feels like a complete slog sometimespast a certain point combat feels like a chore and its so ass and boringI just obliterated a Word Bearer on Kiava Gamma, should this be a big deal in the 40k universe? It's the third time it happenedAlso, it's super weird how characters like Kibellah can mop the floor with enemies, while Idira is just a buff/debuff spammer with no real gameplaymeh, at least the setting is cool as fuck
>>541665479just be yourself bro you were someone before you learned about alignments
>>541662114Well, you never know if you don't try, and I don't see any harm in Ember doing a bit of preaching if she wants to. Maybe it helps her atone for all the Hellfire Beams she's cast.
>>541664879Law and chaos are pretty obvious.Asking fair payment for services being something evil is stupid, that is the most neutral move possible.
>>541665293t. DnD 5 edition designer.
>>541665527>Idira is just a buff/debuff spammerHe starting staff shoots lightning bolts.
Whats my alignment if I want destabilization with the intention to improve lives but don't care about the means used
>>541666169yeah but then she dies to Chaos I prefer to use her as a buffer and have Abelard hack and slashCassia is my psyker murder waifu
>>541665527get psychic scream and that cone attack on Idira and she will wipe everything
>another complaining about Kibellah yet still uses herYou guys know you can bench her
>>541666294>wants disorder>ends justify meansCongrats, you are chaotic evil. Don't forget to grow a moustache and twirl it periodically.
>>541666601guys stop trying to redpill me about Idira, she ain't HER>>541666641I'm not complaining? I'm saying its weird how the game let you build characters, because its obvious how some like Kibbels are designed to become unstoppable killing machines with 200 attacks per turn while others like Y'rliet are>buff>buff>another buff>prey>shoot a single sniper shot>c ya next round, mon-keigh
Whats my alignment if I don't care about most people and wouldn't mind if they died but my heart still bleeds for the homeless
>>541667171Well, Kibbles is a dlc class.Idira gets some item that allows her to spam psychic attacks and kill everything in 1 turn.
>>541662960Does it matter if she likes being a demon or not. She fucked over like a fuckzillion of people, does she deserve a salvation after all that?
>>541667679Salvation is meaningless anyway if you have no higher power like Christian God that can punish your wrongdoing.
Can't believe owlkek games have hundreds of people working on them.
>>541669336>450 employeeWhat the fuck?
>>541665527>past a certain point combat feels like a chore and its so ass and boringWelcome to owlkek games.
>be me, neutral good>take an action>become chaotic goodWhat difference is there between the me from 10 seconds ago and the me now?
>>541670397Fuck the establishment
>>541670397End the fed
>>541670397You broke the law anon (you stepped on the grass).
Do not, the Necron lady, elantach
>rape a child-1 good boy point>complimented a women's chest+1 good boy point
What is Kreia's alignment? Lawful Evil?
>>541671570What is Kreia's alignment?Are we talking about the Kreia who started her sentence or finished it?
Why did Valerie tell me about some nigga she fucked when she was still pretty before letting me hit? Are the writers cucks?
>>541672291get a new bait
>>541672504This is my first playthrough. I’m a tourist here. Not even baiting, just bewildered that her and Octavia are both cuck bait.
>>541672816Sure
>>541672816Welcome to western RPGs. Made for women and fags.
>>541672874idk why you’d think I was lying
Why did Jaheira tell me about some guy she fucked when she wasn't a widow yet before letting me hit? Are the writers cucks? Why did Viconia tell me about some guys she fucked when she was in survival mode? Are the writers cucks? Why did Jack tell me about some guy she fucked when she was in love? Are the writers cucks? Why did Cass tell me about some guy she fucked when she was in love? Are the writers cucks?
How is that comparable to me trying to wife up Valerie just to find her in a bar drunk af reminiscing about some nigga that she pump and dumped? Then she wasn’t to fuck with this nigga on her mind?
Fictional women cannot have past relationships or else they hurt my feelings :(
>>541673552You aight white boi, but no need to talk like one of the brothas, you feel me?
>>541673634mb lil nigga, just tryna catch a vibe
>>541661434I'm not really into orcish musclegirls but that's still better than the milquetoast Irabeth we got
>>541673621NTA, I don't care either way about the Valerie stuff (I didn't know she was romanceable) but there is an argument to be made surrounding writers that are fixated on generating tension and drama through jealousy. It has less to do with the character itself and more a question of writing talent.Though maybe that other anon really did feel bad his fictional waifu was a slut, which is also a little cringe.
God whitoids are such pathetic cucks.
So is the azata fight where you clean out the fleshmarkets usually laggy that fight turned my game into a powerpoint presentation
>>541674346>jealousyYou just made that up
Be better men
I don’t care if she’s a slur but why does your first physical encounter have to come right after she gets drunk and hot and bothered telling you that you remind her of some dude she fucked. Who wants that experience?
this is a bad thread, I'm going back to Grand Chien
There should be an Anevia romance where you cuck Irabeth.
DEI? checkCuckolding romance? checkgeneric power fantasy? checkits owlslopping time
The bait is bad because most of the anons here agree with it or want to join in on cracking jokes at the expense of Owlcat instead of getting big buttmad
owlcat demoralized another straight white man
"I don't even care if she a freak, but why the fuck your first time gotta be right after she drunk, talking 'bout you remind her of some homie she already fucked? Who wanna start like that?" Anon said calmly.
Genuinely not baiting, I was just complaining. But I am glad to see my complaint has been brought up by so many others that you all think it’s bait.
>I'm glad to be an unoriginal NPC indistinguishable from all the rest
Valerie won
I’m glad that a general I am posting in agrees that the cuck shit is weird. Only a complete retard would find a way to look at that in a negative way. Honestly you should kill yourself for being such a sad faggot.
>>541670397Alignment is your role in the story, not your psychotype.You do chaotic actions you are considered a chaotic person.
>>541676273The last three threads were full of anons posting about running mercenaries instead. I think this is a problem with owlcat games, not even your complaint specifically, just their characters in general range from boring to annoying with only a small handful being really good.You want romantic fiction for men, and crpgs used to be the genre that provided for this niche, where women could browse an entire aisle at any bookstore chock full of the most obscene erotic literature known to humanity. But crpg writers don't want to create that anymore, or something. I'm sure someone more brainrotted can deliriously explain it.
>>541676684Why you be changing your tone and posting style, homie? Thought you were "tryna catch a vibe"? Ain't no way you no baiting motherfucker.
You complain about Valerie every thread sybau
>>541676857Why are you so weird and angry that I complained about this Valerie encounter negatively? Why are you switching to complain about my writing style suddenly?
Its crazy to think how even Valerie is better than Yrilet.
>>541676760>and crpgs used to be the genre that provided for this nichet. someone who started playing rpgs released after 2016Everyone knows there's plenty of stuff in BG2 or DAO that would trigger you
>>541677135Valerie doesn't get you killed and knits you a sweater.
>>541677152Nah, I loved those two games, the thread was covering the Morrigan stuff earlier if you scroll up.
>>541677108Ain't nobody switching stuff here but you, homie. You tripping? Wasn't me who started the bait with "nigga" my guy. You wanna come in here and call Valerie a hoe, I ain't even mad, but keep it 100 instead of putting a front, dawg.>>541677461So how do you reconcile that with your statement? either crpgs used to be different or they were always that way
>>541677152Imagine the meltdown if the cucking of Keldorn released today.
>>541677135She doesn't see you as a animal so yes
>>541671570True Neutral
>>541677152Genuinely funny how you can just ruin the romance between two elves for no good reason whatsoever.
>>541677641u sounds like a miserable little faggot. no wonder you like listening to Valerie thirst for some other dude before deciding to let you have her.
>>541677641Reconcile what? Morrigan teases Sten but its established she just liked to mess with his head and when she saw it might lead somewhere she backs off.You literally cuck Khalid with Jaheira but admittedly I always went with Aerie in my playthroughs, so I don't know if there's some nuance in there I'm missing or forgetting.
>>541677152Absolutely. They would also invent new ways of being "cucked"
>>541677827Its for the love of the game, you wouldn't understand.
>>541677828Viconia rubs in your face how many men she had before, you'll have a love triangle with Aerie if Haer'Dalis is with you and Jaheira only jumps on you after her husband dies.
>>541677828I ain't got no time for your bitch ass mind games, homie. Here in crpgg we keep it real you feel me. We see a ho we call it a ho, but we ain't running to the crib to cry about it like it's the official reddit complaint general, talking 'bout some shorty fooled with another homie before you.
Valerie made one stupid comment at the wrong time but she's a perfectly fine romanceYou people are just autistic
>>541676760>women could browse an entire aisle at any bookstore chock full of the most obscene erotic literature known to humanityIs this really significantly different from all the ecchi/harem/whatever anime aimed at men?
>>541678454You’re embarrassing yourself
>>541678680>How is that comparable to me trying to wife up Valerie just to find her in a bar drunk af reminiscing about some nigga that she pump and dumped? Then she wasn’t to fuck with this nigga on her mind?
>>541678660I've yet to see much of that in any bookstore. There's usually a manga aisle but its always been empty.Maybe in Japan? Is all manga ecchi?
>>541678507>but she's a perfectly fine romanceNot really, even if you removed that comment she's still a hypocrite through and through.
imagine being this assblasted that I said nigga and criticised your fav romance in the game
>>541678896Shes a ass character regardless of romance. I don't understand the fixation with her.
>>541676760>You want romantic fiction for men, and crpgs used to be the genre that provided for this nicheFinally you admit it to yourself, but actually this is not how the genre is widely seen up until recently. Really, go read some romance novels instead of shitting up my genre. Allow yourself.
>>541678998What's the matter dawg, you embarrassed? This anon a gangster? His real name's Clarence.
I understand why Yrlietards exists. They are obsessed with fucking a 40k elf. But Valerie is just a shitty Joan of Arc archetype, not even sexy like how SoBs are drawn.
>>541679376>Joan of Arc archetype>not even sexy
>>541678896That's what her character development is about
>>541679376>fucking a 40k elfBut you don't fuck. Even Maraz gets more than you despite being responsible for sending her so called "elantach" and crew to gay rape island.
Is this all crpg fags care about? Whose romance is better?
Can Anevia get pregnant or was her magic potion not that thorough?
>>541679695Sometimes we like to cry about Sawyer denying us the romances we deserved
thanks for the (you)s lil bro. you have defended Valerie’s honour. gj
>>541679603They still hold onto hope that they will fuck Yrliet
>>541679861There's a mod for that
>>541679695it's grown men gathering anonymously online to discuss how they play with their virtual dollies, so yes many of them are fixated on how their dollies kiss
>>541678871If large genres of media aimed at men with a focus on romance don't count because you can't get them at the bookstore then CRPGs haven't counted as romantic fiction for men for a long time because you can't get them at the bookstore either
>>541679695Whenever I discuss my favourite companions from RPGs everyone ignores me. The truth is that people only care about romances.
>>541679824Homie, how many times I gotta tell you, Valerie ain't even my girl. I know you think she a hoe, but don't be so quick to dump her on me. I'm just clowning on you for talking like a brotha when you went to a private school, motherfucker. If you new here, I gotta at least teach you the rules in this hood.
>>541679791Which romances did he deny? Which game?
>>541680162Probably Ydwin again I guess. Deadfire had more things missing in it really.
Garrus or Alistair? Who is a realer nigga? I’m thinking Garrus but both are bros fr
>>541680135Whos your favorite
>>541680497>Alistair>RealHe's willing to let Anora take on the reigns even though he's fully aware of what a shitheel she is all because he's too much of a pussy to take the throne.
>>541680479I think ydwin wasn't a fully flefged companion 'cause the kickstarter amount for her wasn't met. She was one of a few half assed named mercenaries you can use with some lackluster story.
>>541680809Yes she wasn't because the kickstarter stretch goals didn't reach her. This also goes for sea monster battles btw. A fucking "pirate" themed RPG with a sea monster fight being clearly showcased and it never happens.
>>541680695Good point. That does kind of suck. He’s still my boy though.
>>541680497Garrus, he sticks with you in all 3 games
Is Mass Effect 1 worth a play? I never played it, I only played 2 and 3 years ago. Wasn't motivated then since I spoiled the story of 1, but was thinking of doing a trilogy playthrough
>>541680126The flaw here is you're suggesting pornographic mangas have widespread appeal amongst men outside of japan, as opposed to video games.
Is Garrus the realest nigga in all of gaming? I can’t think of a better nigga
Ydwin was garbage tier weeb bait. Only Konstantin was worse of the sidekicks.
>>541680809"We didn't write a romance because you didn't give us enough money" is a pretty soulless way to put it
>>541681373Yes its worth playing
>>541681373Yes but if you're used to how 2 and 3 play, you'll find the controls for the first game a little clunky and inventory management annoying. Its a great story though.
>>541681394Consider playing a role that isn't that of a disenfranchised youth growing in a rough neighborhood of Chicago, dawg
>>541681376Do you seriously think CRPGs are more popular than romance anime in 2025?
>>541681373story is good but the gunplay is noticeably worse than it is in 2 or 3. It also has really horrible driving sections
>>541680539>KoTOR 1Canderous, HK and Jolee though I like keeping Bastila around just to bully.>KoTOR 2Canderous and HK again suprise suprise. >SWTORThey all kind of suck desu.>DAOShale or Wynn though these choices are weird I will admit.>ME1Wrex>ME2Thane, Legion and Grunt>ME3Garrus, Javik and Wrex>Kingmaker Jubilost or Nok-Nok>WoTRRegill and Greybor.>RTThey are all really bland but I guess I'd go with Kibbles since she has the most depth. >DOS2I quite like Sebille but I'm also partial to Fane.>BG3They all suck.That's off the top of my head.
>>541681849I'd rather talk about Valerie and Octavia again than go through this list of shit taste
blud can’t stop replying to me
>>541681849Javik is a real nigga. Thane is a fraud.
>>541682303>>541682303>>541682303
>>541681849>Gaybor>KibblesThis is why no one responds
>>541681802Outside of Japan? Yes.
>>541666121t. evildoer
