Ant editionStore links:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksonghttps://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_KnightInteractive Map:https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloomGame Save Analyzer / Tacker:https://silksong-completion.info/Previous Thread >>541353687
another franchise lost to fromdronessad
Getting there slowly but surely with LL. Inroads are being made, small victories won.
>>541544031>void enemies give no soul>ventrica costs rosaries per travel>all your spells can be parried>boomerang/cogwork wheel/voltvessels/conchcutter can hit you>towns can die if you don't do deliveries
I spent like 10 minutes just dancing her around in Phase 1 to learn on my first timeTo my disappointment that was literally all the ability she did through all the fightI expected more
>>541544031>every enemy and boss does the keep-away strategy all the time
>>541546170>ventrica feeThis is pretty funny and on brand for the Citadel. I actually like this more than the paid benches. You could even have the player find a 'Ventrica pass' late-game below the Terminus or on a well-hidden Underworks worker corpse that permits free Ventrica travel.
>>541547193ARI ARI, WAKE UP
>>541547193But first you must pay a repair crew to get the entire system back in working order.
last thread someone asked is hornet a psychopath.After seeing karmelita's heart on display in bellhome I have no doubt about that, nice decoration hornet.
FUCK WATCHER KNIGHTSFUCK WATCHER KNIGHTSFUCK WATCHER KNIGHTS
Average hunter gameplay.
>>541546170>towns can die if you don't do deliveriesRead Dead had that with the zombie DLC if you didnt stop whatever you were doing to go defend a town at the other side of the map that was under attack.
>>541551147>rng manip to spawn a clawmaiden to bounce onthat was cool as fuck
>>541551147...float like a butterfly, sting like a bee?
>>541551147If this is average post footage of yourself doing it or better
>>541551147>no contact damageNice cheats.
>>541552169Clawline has i-frames
>>541551147bruh there's like 20 instances of contact damage here wtf
>>541546170>bosses heal over time>bosses have poison infused counter attacks>equipped blue & yellow tools break upon death (can be restored at a bench for 100 rosaries a piece)
>>541545637Okay I guess Silksong actually did make me better mechanically. I went back to finish off what I missed in Hollow Knight and Trial of the Fool felt trivial. I was waiting for the next wave at then end and got confused when there wasn't one.
SS godmaster will feature an abyss pantheon where every boss is voided up right
I have this old HK screenshotI don't remember 20 blue masks being a thing, how did I do this?
>>541553469Lifeblood Heart Charm
>>541553469joni's, lifeblood core, lifeblood heartshould be 14 + 4 + 2
>>541553469>>541553673there is also a lifeblood cocoon in that room
>>541551757Its how Hornet would canonically fight.
does coral tower imply that pharloom used to be underwater
So guys the deliveries for Pill and Tipp are just something to gain rosaries out of or is there more to them? Like if you do enough of them something special happens?
>>541555330I think the only one that matters is the rasher.
>>541555330There are 2 that have special effects Queen's egg and courier's rasher, the others can be farmed for rosaries and progress towards act 3.
>>541555326No there's some pre-release map leak that showed it just being a completely out of place water area.
>>541555326>>541556913 (me)I forgot the trailer showing the underwater area at 26 seconds, 34 seconds, 54 seconds, and the shore at 1 minute 16 seconds,https://youtu.be/yQxwbZsL14Y?t=26The barnacles on the ceiling of Bone Bottom do kind of imply it though
Broodmother's room is way too fucking small
>after a week of bullshit and failure I beat last judge>get stuck on cogwork dancers.I'm better than this...
Queen's Egg is completely unobtainable in Steel Soul leading to the Materium always being incomplete. The exclusive Bellhome paint looks good at least.
Now that i got double jump after playing so long without it it feels like a huge nerf. Gotta get used to it i guess
>>541557449Just play slower. They really fuck with people who try to "grug smash thinky machines" their way through.
Why did people bitch about the double jump float override making platforming harderThe only parts where it could be an issue are those short tunnels with spikes on floor and ceiling but you just clawline through those
>>541558296Muscle memory. For most of my first few hours in silksong I kept trying to dash through enemies.
>>541558296i cant speak for everyone but i just got double jump and its messing up my regular jump diagonal slice gameplay. I ll get used to it though
>>541557332>all areas that made it to the game release appeared in a 6 years old trailerreally, wtf were they doing these past 7 years? Did they have a philfish moment and redesigned the entire game from scratch on a whim?
>>541558296there's a section in far fields leading to the rhinogrund and flea where it feels like it's built around only having float without double jump
>>541558859thats where i was lmao after i just got double jump too. Not being able to go straight into float kept tripping me up. Took me 5 tries for a very easy gauntlet
>>541558834>really, wtf were they doing these past 7 years?Em, creating the most polished game in existence packed with over 300 hours of content?
>>541558834I strongly suspect that they spent the remaining time gooning and creating fetish-focused quests/enemies.
>>541559264>packed with over 300 hours of contentthat's 100 Lines
>>541544031>Enemies only launch attacks when they're off-screen>NPCs cause contact damage
I really don't see what the point of runbacks is from a game design perspective other than wasting the player's time for the sake of itNone of them are particularly difficult, they're just...unnecessary and boring. It's just adding an extra 30 secs to a minute of playtime every time you die to the boss, for no reason
>>541544031>karakThe worms need to jump like that one area in bilewater
>>541559658its to make you contemplate the machinations of loss
>>541550202Bugs in general seem a lot less squeamish about stuff
>>541555326I think Karak was a river>Coral sways,>Clear water flows,>Upon our river free of time.
>>541559987That's stupid as fuck
crust king is such a lame boss>literally, LITERALLY all he does is grow spikes out of the floor and ceilingthis is the kind of lazy design you expect from some optional rando boss, not a main storyline boss required to progress in the final act
>>541559658Runbacks are a way of beating the ability to platform into the player.
>>541558834I just assume they spent years adding extra layers to backgrounds. Plus they probably had stuff in that they pulled out for repackage with dlc.
>>541560647i definitely preferred the raging conchfly fight to khannall that gauntlet buildup is wasted on him
>>541560647I'm convinced there was more to him, like summoning adds or something or at least a second phase that all got ripped out. >>541560808Why did Sherma doodle on Hornet?
>>541560948Summoning adds in that tiny room with all the spikes restricting your movement would have made it bar none the most cancerous fight in the entire game
>>541560948he'll probably get new moves like traitor lord
>>541558296It messes up the controls at the mob pogo section during the nameless village climb up.
>>541560647the challenge being the gauntlet instead is fine, it was nice having a victory lap boss for once. though I agree it's a bit of an odd choice to give such an important plot encounter that flavor
>>541559319An awful lot of sexual stuff does happen to hornet. Her floating is basically an upskirt.
>>541560808>years adding extra layers to backgroundsOnly to take them out again at release? Seriously, look at the earlier trailers compared to real gameplay. It's like they sucked all the detail out.>>541559658To punish you and to make the game more cohesive. Putting benches right before every encounter would make the game feel like it's switching genres, and it's too nice besides. The punishment of a runback adds tension to a fight and the frustration is memorable.There are only 2 serious runbacks in the whole game, Last Judge and Bilehaven. Both are deliberate and both are well chosen. Notice, by contrast, that High Halls has a bench right beside it.
>>541561673Yeah, that's why I started thinking along those lines initially. His role in the story, what little there is of it, portrays him as leader of an army fanatically devoted to him. Implementing that as manipulating the terrain against his enemies to aid the adds just makes sense. Some sort of trial of the fool turned up to 11 is what I imagine.
>tyrantWas he a bad guy? There's next to no lore on him
>>541560948>Why did Sherma doodle on Hornet?He kissed the marker first. [Indirect kiss]
>trying 5 hour speedrun>beat widow>nearly 2 hours ini can't find any guide that gives me milestones. i have NO idea if i'm on pace or not. i'm not a god gamer for any% etc. trying a comfy one where i get masks, some tools. just some kind of milestones of how people are doing would help me to know if i can do this on time
>>541562298>the frustration is memorableYeah, I will forever SS as the shitiest game I've ever played
>>541562883Skip through any speed run youtuber's and adjust his timestamps tracker on the side proportionally to your goal https://youtu.be/dmnUZHJ2jHo?t=2002
>>541562594environmental storytelling, he was so bad his kingdom disappeared
>>541562594>For his stern stewardship his legions seemed utterly loyal. >For less combative bugs his would have been a hard rule.It sounds like he valued just bugs who could fight above all else.
>>541563249Doesn't make him any worse than anyone else in pharloom then
>>541552169Clawline has i-frames. FWIW>your dash attack and clawline has i-frames, though it's a fairly small window>Cross Stitch has i-frames>Every crest has i-frames on their pogo except for Reaper and Wanderer, with Beast having the most i-frames on their pogo
>>541563101It is exceedingly mild frustration by any fair standard, anon.The tendency of modern games to overly flatter the player's ego and eliminate all stakes is a direct result of chasing the normie market. You've been manipulated and conditioned into weakness.
I know this might sound cringe but the fleas is the only form of positive representation I've seen of gypsies in any game, like I'm usually ashamed to have that kinda heritage but god damn the sheer joy I got when I realised what team cherry where going for with them was a lot, it's like the hunchback of notre dame again for me
>>541563867I don't play modern games so this theory of counterbalance lies flat on me, and I only perceive SS as unnecessary mean
>>541563701>Clawline has i-frameswhy did they never work in my game? they added them later on some patch?
>>541563931Have you considered behaving in a lawful manner and not stealing?Aussies don't have to live with the criminality like the Euros do, so they tend to have a positive disposition toward Gypsies. Their folk music scene especially loves you.
>>541564489It's very tight
Bro this game i swear to god. I take one little mission to find Jubilana thats lost and i somehow end up in a new area Putrified ducts i swim across a giant ass lake and now i cant get out of the other side not even with double jump.
>>541564325Then you're an exceptionally weak faggot or a liar. Anonymous posting means you will never truly be found out, but elsewhere it would eventually come to light.
>>541563931Mass Effect has a decent space-gypsy sideplot going on over its trilogy for whatever that's worth. You might enjoy it if you somehow haven't played it already
>>541564497I have and even though I am in higher education, I would be lying if I said the culture wasn't all about stealing and being free, there's a whole history and culture that even though it is filled with commiting crime, it's justified to a lot of us, though of course I'll never admit to this irl or even acknowledge I am one, I white pass too well to let it put me down nowI just love seeing a piece of media that doesn't completely hate me for this
>>541564679double jump, clawline, and hover should suffice, or just quit and reload into the last bench
>>541564679CLAWLINE. Why do people not use clawline
>>541564325Then what non-modern game do you consider to be fair?
>>541565390kirby
Now that the dust has settled, what was every druid wrong about?
>>541565486>a game literally for childrenYeah, that makes sense.
>>541565206It's a piece of media that is conveniently pretending to itself that you aren't this.Thanks for being honest, but holy shit you are fucking scum.
https://youtu.be/h6jzNZRLOK8?t=81Why does nobody talk about how unfair the lava brothers in the Deep Docks are? They're the hardest boss in the game.
>>541565649i beat them with only 1/4 needle upgrades. they were tanky af, and took me only 10 tries.
>>541565649They are? I beat them on like my fifth try, and I'm not good at the game at all.
>>541565486https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhI0k7eTWCIKirby is basically Dark Souls these days. Not a good example.
>>541565649They are?
>>541565649I first tried them, I rather keep complaining about the runbacks
>>541565501huh?
>>541565649This was the first fight where I said "Fuck it, Do or Die" and put on the Barbed BraceletAfter like 20 minutes of tryig I did it with no hit no traps used
>>541565328>>541565245I did. I was not able to get up there. At least i found a craftmetal i needed
>>541565649do them in the third act for extra spice
>>541566179That's one of the devs twitter for Mr Mushroom posting
>>541565046Cheers pal, I'm definitely putting this on the backlog>>541565632Eh, I'm not going to lie about how the culture work, you're encouraged to steal because it's how you survive, you get hated on so much that you tend to lose any hope in society, like how do you think a group of people is going to behave when racism is normalise, my own dad wasn't even allowed to go to school, there's whole terms for the government taking kids to "reeducate" them, etc, it's a whole culture hellbent on being free and surviving, though saying this on a hollow knight general is kinda funny I guess, I just love the fleas for showing the more positive parts of it
>>541565649It's a shit fight like any boss that has adds (adds are a sign of poor and lazy boss design, no exceptions), but it's not the hardest in the game
>>541567151>adds are a sign of poor and lazy boss design, no exceptionsI though court of craws was funny and fit the themeat the very least i didn't hate that fight
>>541565649I fought them in Act 2 but you can literally dodge all their attacks by jumping in place.
TEAM CHERRYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>541565649Forebrothers aren't that hard.
>>541568486They're not hard but they're sure as hell annoying
>>541568632I found them fun, like a kinda mantis lords vibe
I am entitled to see all the content in a game I paid for, despite my gaming skills
2 threads ago ppl were discussing about HK3, but I think a fair amount of you missed the setting of the games.Hallownest --> Early Medieval, PK as a unifying figure, rule of authority by monarchy , city statePharloom --> Late Medieval-early modern , Religion used as a unifying force , religion-monarch conflict (pope-emperor conflict), gms (the monarch) literally laid asleep by the religious/ruling class (weavers&conductors) , the start of industrializatoon and steam power. Sooo HK3 - the start of ... bug nationalism? Electricity? More technological advancement? Instead of city states there's like bug nations? With one higher being domineering multiple nests? The bug revolution? Bug Bonaparte? Many such questions, time to take my schizo pills
>>541569212Silksong isn't that hard, just incredibly frustrating.
>>541569396TC needs to embrace their Aussie roots and make the third HK like Mad Max
Post bugs as humans.
>>541569396Bugs on space ships with a legally distinct from xenomorph enemy
>>541571337
>>541569396Am I the only one bothered by how Lace cuts off GMS's left arm but in the void, GMS is missing her right arm instead?
>>541571337That may be easy, but can someone post a NON sexualised version?
>>541571337>>541571626
>>541571754Thank you so much anon, I swear this is the first actual fan art that I've seen of Hornet that is just cool without any ulterior motives, just... thanks.
>>541572093It's not as common, unfortunately. But they do existYou just have to search harder than usual I'm afraid
>>541572062I like the rosary earings.
>>541572261That's just the gay robot from ZZZ
Can someone Justify this ludicrous runback? Especially since it even has new unexplored enemies the players knows nothing about.Was there a way to save that bench that fell in the water?
>>541572692>Was there a way to save that bench that fell in the water?Yes
>>541572692go here real quick
>>541572650Still better than another big tittie bug post
>>541571337Was there this much human art when HK released? Is it just the YurifagsGetting tired of it
>>541571337Post humans as bugs.
>>541573125Fact: Yurifags are the the most powerful fanbase in the worldI swear I've seen more art for Silksong than I have for Hollow Knight because of lacenet
>>541572692You played yourself by being too scared and/or impatient to explore properly.
>>541573430Barely feels like SS art when they're humans
>>541572692there is a secret bench half way, but yes, it's turbo aids cancer design but fromdrones defend it because muh difficulty
how do I get past the bad ending in HK1? I discovered everything I can see. Point me in a direction.
>>541573037this is the baitest bench ive ever seen. >>541572942>>541573457how? i even searched the room because it looks sus
>>541573663Meet QueenMeet King???Profit
>>541573630People like bugs i dunno what to tell you
>>541573712>I discovered everything I can see
>>541573702>this is the baitest bench ive ever seenAnd if you can believe it, it's not
>>541573663Did you get the void heart?
>>541573430One thing I don't like about yurifags is despite the fact they have quantity, they don't have quality as let say the yaoifags, take >>541573758 for example, decent art style but that personality is not Lace, if the yurifags had a better grasp on character then I wouldn't find it as annoying as I do
>>541574067doesn't ring a bell, so probably no
>>541574227Well there you go
>>541574358>Point me in a directiongoogle is not a direction
>>541574727Have you been to White Palace?Have you been to the Abyss?
LOL. After that devious runback and the gaunlet i gotta fight a boss? Dear LORD IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE
>>541574053fluffy lace
>>541575104At least you unlocked the closer bench this time
holy hell, Lost lace fight is nothing but misery, from second phase onward it's just voidspam and teleporting, all the worst parts of act 3 rolled into one black goo of a boss.
>>541575226its not really the gaunlet thats annoying or the boss or even the runback in this maggot infested hellhole. Its that i dont know what this boss does at all which means ill probably die to it until i do which means TONS OF MORE RUNBACKS
>>541574727Find White Lady in Queen GardensMax out Dream Nail and go to Palace GroundsGo to AbyssBeat the boss
>>541575350But at least you're closer this time. The runback from that bench isn't nearly as bad
>>541575350You could play more conservatively, you know.Juice up on plasmium and "spend" your first death on just dodging boss attacks for as long as possible.
I am this close to beating Karmelita, I can feel it in my bones!
>>541575526is this something that you actually do or just giving bullshit advice?
I'll never not find it funny how much people complains about bilewater when blightown exists, ya'll don't know the pain of finding the great hollow, getting cursed and being stuck at ash lake, at least silksong doesn't have anyways have softlocking your game just by sheer difficulty, especially pre-patched dark souls when curse stacked
>>541575785NOOOOO I have to climb inside the enemy hitbox and mash attack.AAAAAAAAAaa now I have to RUNBACK why did I die bros? WTF????
>>541575785If you want to learn a boss' mechanics, spend your first few tries literally learning their mechanics
>>541576145that sounds good in theory but you are telling anon to waste his shards dying
Lace is a shit design and an annoying character with a horrible VAPandering to anime troons should be a punishable crime
>>541576474Then don't use your tools
>>541576593really weird choice for a recurrent villain and final boss too. wtf were they thinking
>>541573758>shortswhy are bloomers forgotten tech?
>>541576908Everyone forgets bloomers are a thing...
>>541576856I'm fine with her being recurring but the final one should've been something grander, maybe her + mommy
>>541574204yeah, obviously lace keeps it in the family
>>541575936first time blighttown 3 fps on original ps3 release with twinks invading by the minute is peak souls
>>541575415don't think I can get to any of those places because of void lazers blocking my way
>>541575936They weren't there, they don't know anything about that hell.
>3 wikiswhich one do i use bros
>>541577365https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Hollow_Knight_Wiki
>>541569396There's many ways you can view it. Economically, Hallownest is a failed state, in free-fall, subject to scavenging. Pharloom is a pyramid scheme, mafia project type deal. A third installment could either explore more benevolent settings, like a society in expansion, or more dark stuff like colonization or resettlement of a society in flux (see tribal movements during the hun invasion).You can have a mix of these settings. Nation-building, colonization and expansion all at the same time. Numerous tribes banding together.
>noo don't read fextralife they suck>every other wiki has no info when I need it Shit sucks
>>541573480>>541577606lol which one of you is this?
>>541573654Shit, anon, do you need to gitgud? The runback is character building.
>>541577337How the fuck did you get to Monomoonomon without the shadow dash?
coral tower ain't so bad, what were people bitching about? the gauntlets are overall easier than many in the rest of the map and the boss is a meme
>>541577337>He doesn't have the shadow dashAnon your story isn't making any sense
>>541579648>Monomoonomona what
>>541579653People not realizing there's a shortcut after the gauntlet, dying to Khann, and then getting upset they have to do the gauntlet again
>>541579982yea I don't, no clue where it is I did get shadow drop down recently
>>541580356If you don't have the shadow dash, then you haven't fought the final boss. Which means you haven't even seen the bad ending in the first place
>>541577729That one makes my CPU usage jump up for some reason.
>>541580664bad ending as in killing hollow knight and taking his place
He needs a home.
>>541580968Literally the most cancerous "quesline" I've seen in a metroidvania. FUCK THAT THING AND FUCK THAT ROOTUSSY THAT TRIED TO RAPE ME!
>>541580817You need the shadow dash to even get to Monomonomon
>>541581127
>>541580968>>541581127I read about that and I decided nope I won't botherI accidentally found the twisted bud thing when looking for other stuff and I didn't even pick it up
>>541581384SHUT UPSHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
>>541581127she didn't try, she literally raped hornet and put her futa seed inside her
>>541581197who the fuck is monom if you mean HK, no, you don't
>>541581624>TC: creates multiple interactions with NPCs that hornet will have when cursed and even a secret ending>Literally every player after spending 1 second with that damn thing in their inventory:
I wish there was a secret interaction you can get with Lace if you return to the Organ
>>541581127What do you mean "tried"?Cry all you want. It's not going to unrape you. LMAO
>>541581127>triedGo ahead. Call the CitadelThey can't un-rape you
>>541572062I think this is a continuation of something. Hornet gets sent to Elden Ring as a human or something like that.
>>541580968>>541581127>>541581812>>541583353>>541583613
>>541584110based CCP coomer
Which character would you main? Which boss would slap you the hardest?
>>541584507And here are the other characters.
>more fanart in a month than the entirety of 7 yearsyurige runs this fandom
I'm surprised there hasn't been some on-off reptilian/amphibian/mammalian/avian enemy. I guess they have a strict bug-only with some shrooms policy.
actually a really fun fight if you get used to it, this reward is shit though
>>541580968>homeHornet's womb will do.
>>541584728
>>541584881It's honestly impressive the sheer amount of art being madei love it
>>541585274>that Miquella
She is just too iconic, artists really like drawing her; easily the best new character design in the whole game. No doubt she is setup as the next MC. They can do so much cool stuff with her.
Damn I've been sleeping on the architect's charged attack, it has insane range
>>541585743Her and Hornet are just so perfect for art. Both easy to draw and fun to draw no less
>>541585791they nerfed it
>>541585627>miquellaimagine the SUCC
>>541585274>Malenia being a Hornet clone
>>541585791If you can believe it, the charge attack used to be stronger tooIIRC it was like 3x a single needle hit before
>>541585627Dude I would cum all over a 2D Elden Ring/Souls with HK artstyle
After like 10 runbacks and A LOT of tools used i took a break ate something and got him down. He wasnt as bad when i realised you can pogo off of him with hunter effectively and something interesting Pimpilo bombs can get shallowed by him during the sucking. Mastering the runback and the gauntlet was the most difficult part.
Something else also. What is the usefulness of these stones? Is it just lore or they become relevant at some point
Do I do Nyleth or Karmelita firstOr do I go to Verdania first
>>541588357forgot pic
>>541588581Lore
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/clJt3E50CPs
Yeah, chinese fans really want Lace as the next MC lol reading reactions atmI knew this would happen, as more of the common folk finally get to the true ending, more people will be completely moved by Lace's story. This is another reason why we are being bombarded by more and more art each day. They all are reaching the climax at their pace.
Lace NTR...why is Hornet like this?
>>541588581>>541588357Just lore of Bilewater
korean "humor"https://x.com/jisangeodi/status/1971488758030815470help me understand
>>541588482Leave Karmelita for lastTrust me
>>541589667From what i've gathered>Chinese and korean fans LOVE lace and her story>Standouts for both eastern and western fans are Hornet, Lace, Phantom, and Shakra>Eastern fans do like Phantom a lot though>Lacenet is the most popular ship by far. No other ship even gets close to the amount of art Lace and Hornet have together>Eastern fans want the next protag to be Lace without question. Meanwhile western fans seem torn between Lace being the next protag or THK
Its kind of on the nose when you put it like that.
>just beat phantom>clock is at 2.5 hoursi feel like i'm always poor though :( i see now that i've been wasting rosaries on maps
>find First Sinner>enjoying the fight despite dying repeatedlyI didn't expect to find a fight I would enjoy this much again after Dancing Cogworkers. That being said I have yet to muster the willingness to attempt Groal again. And the mob fight with the giant mallet swinging bug-centaur things, so I know for a fact this is going to be peak fun for the time being.
>>541590874I wish Hornet and Second Sentinel had more interactions.
trying wanderer for the first time on my 2nd playthrough... this crest is easy mode. just face tank all the bosses. jesus christ. >t. beat the game 100% with hunter's crest
>>541584728>>541585274>>541585627understood the assignment
>>541591324youre me in the future. Im also doing hunter 100% first. Then im thinking of making a Beast run with some tanky trinkets and longclaw which i just got on my run and seems really good BUT i cant get rid of Weaverlight cause i like exploring and silk and warding bell is just kinda too good.
>>541590109
When you hear a flea trapped just know that's how asian women sound like.
>>541589667>>541590562I can understand Lace getting a DLC like Jetstream Sam and Bladewolf did in MGR, but hoping for an entire fucking game is retarded and delusional, especially when THE GUY THE SERIES IS NAMED AFTER still isn't even playable.
>>541592136fyi i'm completely without tools and i'm already in the citadel. died a few times (from speedrunning platforming). widow killed me a few times (interestingly the first boss i spammed tools against in phase 3). every other boss i beat 1st try so far. mastering hunter makes you a god
>>541584507>>541584728>>541585274>>541585627But which one of these is THE HATED POOPOO GORGER?THE DETESTABLE DOOKIE DIGESTER?THE VILLAINOUS FLOATER THROATER?
>>541592690He's not really a boss, so he's wouldn't be on there.
it's bonkers how much good art of these two is now out there. We could bump the entire thread never repeating pictures and get a whole new set just the next day (or hours holy) and this is just SFW kek
>>541593492People really like the yuri bugs.
>>541593492Yuri sells (unironically)
>>541583058Phantom deserved to have some dialog
Lace is just too popular to not be the next MC. Cherry cooked too well. From design, to personality, she is so impactful.
love the variety of styles
>>541593960I really wish she did. Considering how she's Lace's sister, she really doesn't have any dialogue (you could say her losing speech could be because she's losing her form or GMS literally just didn't give her speech) And Lace doesn't mention her much, if at all. It would've been nice if she brought up how you made it up the Organ or if you use Cross Stitch against her
>>541594479I'm loving all the different styles
>crawfather>another adds-ridden cancerfightoh yaaaaay I'm having sooo much fun
>>541588715QUE
>>541594834The father of justice doesn't answer to your sensibilities.
>>541594834Shut the fuck up and pay for your crimes you little shit
>>541594598Should young Phantom really have a mask?I think Phantom's mask might be to compensate for damage that has occurred to her face with age.It's notable that Lace does not wear a mask and Phantom only puts hers on to face Hornet.
>>541594834time to use "that"
>>541595084Maybe Phantom was just born chuuni
>Show me strength, spider...>Forgotten...>Discarded...>Silk stretched thin...>Shell stiffened...>Claws quivering...>Free me from this fading fate...>Free me!
>>541595085I didspammed poison tacks all over the arena and then lasered him
should tc even be allowed to design characters this attractive?
>>541595620Fellow Silkshot appreciatorI fucking love the railgun
>>541595689No. They shouldn'tbut I'm glad they did
This place is so pretty, I wish more of the game had this mystical wild forest atmosphere
After letting it rest for a few years I recently restarted playing the standard HK and I am having the weirdest sound issue.My headphones start crackling just a little, but after a while, it's almost always, constantly as if my wire was loose. This ends when I exit the game but starts building back up when I start it again. One time it even started to crackle while on windows. When it does that, restarting fixes it. This issue does not always occur. Sometimes I play for hours without it occurring.I tried:>using different audio port (normally I use a USB interface). >using different headphones>updating all sound and Motherboard drivers>adjusting sampling rate in the device managerIt always persists, no matter what.
What's more fun and effective for Hollow Knight: nail or spell builds?
>>541551147Wtf. Go easy on them. TC is gonna make an even harder one next time.Love the "buzz off" at 1:12>>541571549That does bother me, but I think people just didn't notice.>>541582395>Literally every player after spending 1 second with that damn thing in their inventoryI honestly didn't mind it and thought it was kinda funny.
>>541595689>>541596341>tfw the most attractive characters in the bug game aren't bugsI am conflicted.
>>541597149I dunno, the bugs have some pretty high contenders too
>>541597013I’ve played my first run with a “Nail Build” and in the second one I’ve used a “Magic Build”. The Nail Build is way better, you can kill every boss in the game very easily and fast, especially in Godhome. But, I think Nail Tecniques learned from the Nailmasters are pretty useless, I’ve never used them.
Would be cool if the game had more of these going into the past to see ancient lands and people in their prime areasMaybe in the DLC
>>541596767I had a similar issue and then my audio output died completely.
HOLY WHAT A FIGHT FIRST SINNER. I FEEL SO ALIVE I WAS SO LOCKED IN. GOT HIM ON THE 5TH TRY FUCK IT WAS SO INTENSE
>>541597557Considering how they seem to have cut multiple areas, I can see them becoming dream realms
>>541597568like forever or just until the restart?
>sethI do not enjoy bosses who just teleport all over the place all the time
>>541598504Its a reaction game more than anything
>>541598623Making you react to attacks from off screen is bad design
>>541598504First Sinner doing it was fine because at least she mostly stayed on the ground while doing it. Teleporting into the air is bullshit.
Fellas? Lace and Hollow Knight? Consider it. Ponder it, if you will.
>>541596341i was tragically overlevelled by the time i got through the mist. barely got to hear their voice
>>541598504I feel like I was the only one that didn't have such a difficult time on Seth. He's easy to readnow his Fleatopia records meanwhile...
>>541598674what do you mean offscreen. i just fought him hes always on screen. Lava Beastfly was the only one that launched off screen from what ive encountered so far. And you can pretty much guess its path based on your location so no biggy.
>>541599275I honestly feel like they wanted to do more with Phantom but cut it
>>541598504lmao I just dropped poison tacks all over the arena and let him slowly kill himself by running away from himGet cheesed dumbass
I played all game on the Wanderer. After Huntress quest I started to use tools. Cogflies for third phase. And I stuck on Lost Lace. I was tired. I wanted use cheats or drop game. But then I installed health bar mod. Tried various tools. And then I realized I could replenish tools on the Architect. I used 8 waves of cogflies, tacks and 24 plasmium. I restored some silk with 4 strikes and knocked out on 5th. Used 799 shards.Now I'm not interested in doing 100% because I might cheese everyone. The sinner, the pinstress, the unraveled.It was special tactic for main boss.
>>541600219this nigga really played the entire game and never realized what the whole point of architect was until the very end
>>541600219Anon has learned the true power of the way of the machineAnd it frightens him
Yep, I'm gonna google how to get the true ending. I did my best to try and play it blindly, but I'm fucking tired already. I beat the "final boss" of act 2, explored every nook and cranny of the map, fought and defeated every optional boss, and completed every available side quest for me by myself. I have no idea what to do next.I fucking hate when devs do bullshit like this. This game doesn't respect my time.
>>541600698Try actually talking to bugs.
>>541600698You must find all fleas and make all desk quests. Then wil be new one Silk and Soul.Its much better then HK or simphony of night.
>>541600698have you tried talking to bugs instead of being antisocial
>>541600901You don't have to find all the fleas. Just enough to get the caravan to move to its final spot
Is it worrying if I've died 4 times to Nyleth so far
>>541601406A little bit, yes.
>>541601406Just a bit
>>541600532It's so imba. What are they thinked?>>541600382Yeah, it was dumb. I also didn't understend what is crest before found wanderer.
>>541601406anon...
>>541601720Honestly the fun of all the different crests is playing them all. They all have their different niche's and some are better in different situations than others. Plus they all function different from one another so you develop different playstyles with each crestArchitect is seen as the "in case of emergencies" / "the equalizer" crest next to Wanderer, because both are ridiculously powerful for different reasons and can trivialize multiple fights and bossesPlay around with the different crests and have fun
>>541600219i'm wondering how you got past karmelita when she's similar in difficulty to lost lace
>>541597923Forever.
>>541545637
I enjoyed the Watcher at the Edge fight. He didn't do keep-away bullshit, but got right up in my face, forcing me to learn how to deal with him.
>>541602638I agree with this list
>>541602124Maybe you are right. But I think Witch and Beast are more for the early game.I will finish game and try Shaman.>>541602524She fucked me 2 days. I used two cogflies on second phase and six on therd. Then she died after few strikes. I wanted to drop game too.
>>541602976i can't really fault it for this but the fight felt a bit barren. it feels like he chooses to do the massive anti air 90% of the time so for me it just came down to baiting that out and getting hits in while he recovered
>>541602638Why everybody hate prison fly mama? Its cool hard fight.
>>541600783>>541600901>>541600997Too late, already google it and left a negative review of the game on Steam. Fuck tem cherry and fuck Silksong.
>>541603585Fat fuck flopping around a tiny room shooting projectiles and adds, pure cancer of a combination.
>>541603395With Witch and Beast, those two imo work better on a second/third playthrough. Beast is definitely not for every fight, but Witch has its uses. it's just that both crests require a MUCH more aggressive fighting style and approach, which is harder to do when it's your first foray into PharloomShaman is kind of hard to say because you honestly get it so late into the game you can't really get a feel for it vs the other crests where you can play around with through Acts 1 and 2But regardless, remember that you don't have to stick to one crest for the whole game. Feel free to switch
>>541603628
>>541603585tiny ass roomsummons flies that have a large explosion radius relative to the room on deathimmobilizes you using coomit gets easier when shd starts bouncing all over the room instead of ramming her fat dumpy into you
>>541603585I personally liked it. It was like Gruz Mother but actually fun.
I never realized until now that you can hear the False Knight making panicked noises as his health gets lowerKWABOAT
>>541599085I'm more of a Hollow Knight x Shakra person.
>>541603585I thought it was fun. But it's definitely not my top 5 fights
>if you die in a memory boss fight you lose all the shit you spent>if you just pause and quit when death is imminent you don'tnicecoulda told me earlier tho
>>541599085>>541604194We love THK x Shakra in this household
>>541604363>>if you die in a memory boss fight you lose all the shit you spentThis is actually a bug from the last patch. you lost nothing before
I think Shakra is bug Xena.
>>541601406Nah. I died at least 4 times to her. Actually, I think I died more to her than to Khann, thought I still think she's probably the easiest.
Is it possible to save Garmond if I rush the shit out of Act 3 or does he automatically get lost if I get three hearts?
>>541603883Ok, thx, bro.You did second and third run??? I am so tired after first, 100 hours. Steel soul?
>>541602638I agree with your S tier, though I think Lace 1 is still a good fight for someone new to the HK genre. She's easy, but still a good learning experience for the start of the game.>>541603585I thought the fight was fine. She was easy to read and pretty easy to dodge, even with the small room. Wouldn't say it one of my favorite fights though. Fairly forgettable.
>>541581624The noise is why I just can't use the Sawtooth Circlet no matter how many times I hear how good it supposedly is.
>>541604778I've only done 2 runs. Second was because i missed the cursed ending in my first run (and also just for fun)I am nowhere near good enough for Steel Soul
>>541604951SHINKSHINKSHINKSHINK
you just know godmaster cogwork dancers will have the 4th phase go turbosperg angry and fast on you instead of sad and slow
>>541605116>Godhome Dancers>it's the Cogwork Dancers and the Clover Dancers at the same time
>>541605116Just seat in the corner and do blow.
>>541605116If you wanna really screw some people up, make their speeds asymmetrical. Have one move at like twice the speed of the other one, or just increase one by half a speed and lower the other one by half a speed.
>>541605116>>541605245>4th phase starts>cogwork dancer goes on slow>does the pair attack and falls to the floor>suddenly enveloped by light>arena transforms into verdania and dancer turns intangible>green prince enters and begins clover dancersdo it tc
>>541604932Lace 1 is fun but after you get stronger its gets overshadowed by her second and quicker fight, but its a pretty fun "first impressions" boss yes.
>>541563323The act 3 trio weren't fans either> CM :Up top of those caves lost to wind and sand rests a crusted old ruler, a once great warrior king.>CM : In their prime, they and their order held half of Pharloom under hardened claw. Some bugs relished that strength. Most lived in fear of it.
Would TC do something as crazy as making you fight 2 old-heart bosses at the same time?I can see a Green Prince + Nyleth battle with Nyleth at the center top doing her usual moves, while the prince duo does their usual thing. Maybe Nyleth juggles from top to bottom in one of the next phases.With Karmelita and Khann, Khann's coral will be support for Karmelita. It'll either narrow the room pressuring you towards her or it'll cover the entire floor momentarily forcing you to pogo off it, but it'll be really cool 'cause Karmelita is gonna dance off of it too.
So continuing my theory from last thread, the original idea of the skull guys being the original species seems to be wrong. I now believe it was the crust crawler. The crust crawler has more basis for diversifying into all the other guys (Skull gnats, fertids, shellwood gnats and furms) due to the place it lived in suffering from severe drought from the citadel. It also shares a few characteristics with some other future bugs, in that it has 5 legs like the skull and shellwood gnats, which it loses upon growing like the skull gnat (though it's weird they couldn't get that big from the start). It, like all other members, practices mimicry by concealing itself in coral, much like the shellwood gnat with wood, so I suppose I shouldn't have shot down that one anon from last thread who suggested that one was also included, though the gnat does seem able to leave it's protective shell, unlike the crust crawler. One more thing: there are no coral furms in the coral tower, implying they just didn't exist yet. Another thing showing just how recent the coral furm is, is that it doesn't actually integrate into the coral like the conchflies or the drill shooters, instead having to scavenge a nutshell to hide in. Also I think the coral furm's appendages near it's mouth may be mandibles, possibly like the skull brute ones. The coral furm seems to have resettled near the place where it's ancestors originate, and may be actually younger than the bell furms, which is surprising. This will probably be my last post about this topic since from what I've seen, there is nothing more to talk about. This was actually kind of fun. If any of the DLCs build up into this group, then I'll come here again.
Did this catch anyone else by surpriseIt was such a brutal execution all of a sudden in an otherwise not that violent game lol
>>541606450The whole prison sequence was pure kino, and made me glad I had avoided spoilers as well as I did.
>>541606450I loved the whole prison sequence. Reminded me of the zero suit segment in Zero Mission
>>541606652>>541606720It was a bit too short imo
Did you notice that the white butterfly broke the cage's magic? When we first met, Lace was in charge of the butterflies, and they're also in the Mist.
>>541606109>Fighting Seth and Nyleth at the same timeWhat the fuck man
>>541606450Nah. Someone spoiled it for me.
>>541606831I thought it was just long enough to be interesting, but not overstay its welcome.
Why did the Mother of Silk hunt the descendants of the Weavers? Just to make them slaves, like the Widow?
>>541606959Yes, we've already discussed the possibility that Lace freed Hornet many times. It seems very plausible, though we don't have any truly concrete proof. Lace generally runs counter to her mother's goals and so freeing Hornet in an attempt to dispatch her is well within the bounds of her character.
>>541607425Widow seemed more of a fanatic than a slave. It was more like taking out anyone that had any chance of opposing her.
>>541592498Lace is also small enough that they can reuse Pharloom assets instead of her breaking absolutely everything like Hornet apparently did to Hallownest.
>>541607676I dont think some half dead 1/8 weaver was real danger. Maybe its crazy revenge.
>>541601720>It's so imba. What are they thinked?That Pharloom science is the finest in the world!
>>541592498Lace describes herself as a husk (hollow) and she is a knight. This makes her a sort of hollow knight. Just thought I would point that out. It probably doesn't mean much, but it is funny.
>>541608131I think it was just her being very overcautious, but yeah also revenge. Remember that that half dead 1/8 weaver still managed to kill 7 choristors and 9 envoys.
>>541606959YesIt's also implied that lumaflies are souls
Betrayal
Forgiveness
>>541608991But it in lamps.
>>541609478Yeah
>>541609551I dont get it.
>>541569396>>541577738A City of Steel is mentioned in the Cradle.
>>541592201Awoooo!
Why did Team Cherry make the movement so fuckign shit in this game? It was tolerable until the Karmelita fight. The whole "you press one direction but it actually goes into another since you are still facing it" is so retarded.
>>541612282How are you that far into the game and you still don't understand how hunter pogo works?
>>541612492It's not Hunter pogo. The pogo is actually fine. This is regardless of crest.
>>541612702Then I have no idea what you're even trying to say.
>>541608625I'm going to assume that Hornet slaughtered them like dogs if only like 6 out of a "Full Chamber" survivedShe does say "I cut down many before my capture."
Can I do the 100% after finishing Act 3?
>>541613492Yes, like og
>>541609989They're using people's souls for lamps, at least initially Silksong
>>541613492Yes
>>541613805Where proofs?
I think I'm just too retarded for Flea JuggleDodge and Bounce weren't too much trouble
i just spent 1.5 hours searching the map to find i got double jump and theres 2 freaking areas next right next to fucking Shellwood i totally ignored having played for 50 hours already. I feel fucking stupid it took me this long.
>>541614209Juggle was the easiest for me. Got it my first try. Don't jump. Stand in center. Dash to the flea, strike up. It's that easy.
>>541614016The silk butterflies in lamps are the same things they put in the cogwork constructs, who Hornet notices shouldn't function like they shouldThere's some lore somewhere about serving Pharloom eternal in eternal form of metal or something
>>541614503It's okay man, I wasted five minutes on my speedrun in sinners road. Gate was blocking me and I panicked. Tried the skip which I couldn't figure out. Went back. Noticed a switch right under the door to open it.
WHY WON'T THESE FUCKING SLAVES JUST LEAVE ME ALONE?
>>541614641Oh, I forget about robot one. Good theory.
yeah i don't think i care to finish the game anymore. the radiance fight is actually just fucking cancer
>>541614796i was gonna make a post where i used the word snigger as a portmanteau of snail and nigger but then i realized that snigger is an actual word so... fuck you
>>541615598Get SUN'd idiot
>>541615787Here comes the sun.
>>541615787i abyss shrieked her away. fuck that fight. i like how i got to bitch slap her in the end
>>541562298Last judge runback is one of my favorites in the game. God forbid a platformer makes you platform
>>541606109No, that sounds terrible wtf.
>>541559987>>541560791>>541562298>>541618047
Hornet mod for Hollow Knight. It's just a skin. Do you like?
>>541596767Still having this issue, btw. Grateful for any help.
>>541619003cute
>>541619003Now show mini Hornet fighting Hornet.
>>541620364>>541619003
Have you guys ever thought of doing a "X crest only" run? I love this game so much I want to replay it and I was thinking of just doing a "Hunter's Only" run. No using the other crests
>>541621442im doing hunter for my first run and since i noticed i got quite good at the game im doing beast as my second. I just want to get this 100% outta the way then play how i like to play
>>541600698oi!! OOI!!!
>>541621556I was thinking of doing a Beasts only run too. The more I foll around with it, the more I want to actually play it more through the game entirelyIf they ever add a NG+, it'd be neat if you can choose which crest to start with
>>541602638too many F tiers
>>541603628Sorry Nate.
>>541603585It combines everything that is wrong with bosses in this game. The only thing that is missing are stage hazards and a long runback.There is no way this fight is even close to First Sinner, Phantom or Lace.
i'm so rusty i can't beat soul tyrant
>>541614570I saw a lot of advice saying to hit to the side, but hitting up like you said really helped
tentacles
>>541602638Not trying to flex, but for whatever reason I locked the fuck in for Second Sentinel and first tried her (it?). Was a fun fight though.
>>541614016Back in Hollow Knight when Seer ascends.
desu I would expect more activity from this thread but I guess most skongers are in v
bros...what the fuck. I was not prepared for these feels. Goddamnit, why do I have to be on a boat right now.I need a drink after this.RIP, Garmond Quixote.
>>541609356Brat tamed
>>541633394I can't even experience the feels because he's kicking my ass
>>541633394whatever emotional impact that fight could have has been ruined by how shit it was
>>541614641>There's some lore somewhere about serving Pharloom eternal in eternal form of metal or somethingIt's the act 3 choral commandment you find in Whiteward with silksoar.>"Bug of voice grown hoarse or shell fallen frail, you have been selected for duty most sacred.>Become our light, our guide in darkness, that others worthy may climb to join the holy song."
if they force lace as a player character, i simply won't play
>>541634716>Whiteward with silksoar.Where ? Up the elevator shaft ?
>>541637392Here
>>541634716when twelfth architect dies you can see one of the butterflies flying away
>>541638574You also see a bunch coming out of the Fourth Chorus when it dies IIRC.
>>541633394bromond...
A new way to not beat the game.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UyyjAbl51wM
>>541643284Meanwhile I want to know if that same trick works for the surface shortcut above the bench in the act 3 climb.
>>541643284>double jump is requiredFairly certain you could at least get up to the breakable wall entrance of Putrified Ducts without double jump by pogoing the moth enemies that spawn on the bridge. Between the 2 groups that spawn, and how easily baited they are, I feel confident that can be done.In the room after with the thorns though, I dunno how you'd get up without double jump. I don't know what's possible with cocoon shenanigans.
Just found this faggot. I've only fought him twice but holy shit it's like they were trying to make the worst boss possible on purpose. It's like every aspect of this shit is designed to waste as much of your fucking time as possible. I'm fucking baffled that anyone short of an absolute retard could think this was a good experience.
Some dude from /tesg/ ported Hornet's needle to skyrim
>>541644891They managed to put some of their very best boss design AND some of their very worst. I suppose their thought quantity beats qualityAnyway as with any boss whose main move is sliding across the arena, poison tacks help a lot
Just started act 2 and I can't figure out where to head next. Faffing about in the underworks just leads to a fast travel tube thing which leads nowhere, and choral chambers which leads to grand gate. Just going in circles. Don't know where to go
>>541645064
>>541645064Your goal is to reach the Citadel's peak.
>>541645187Oh you could go up there huh
>>541645659The whole game is about going up, you need to look for walls you can cling to to climb higher
>Rune Rage nerfed>Threadstorm nerfedWhat the fuck are you doing, just fix the Silver Bells quest and fuck off. How about you take away the stupid start up delay to Sharp Dart if you're so into tweaking spells.
>downloads all the knowledge of the architects>does the same to the shamans a while later>both of these are only crestsIs this stuff being locked to a crest a gameplay mechanic or do all the secrets of the shamans and architects actually dribble out of her head when she stops acting like one for a bit?
>>541643284Its already getting patched out
>>541644891My favorite part of that fight is when he'd run across the room and into the wall with a BONK sound. Cracked me up.
>>541646226Proof?Also apparently the new patch is making Verdania go green again after you kill the Clover Dancers.
>>541646464beta test on steam.
>>541644979Literally just got back from dropping into the retarded pointless one-way shortcut into the architect's chamber from white ward and having to run all the fucking way back just to discover that all I had left to do was this dogshit. The completely pointless elevator leading to the empty hallway leading to a boss that takes a fucking minute to start the fight alone should be reason enough to earn whoever thought this timewasting shit was cool a slap across the back of the head. Fucking unbelievable their commitment to making you spend as long as possible at absolute zero enjoyment at some points in this game.
>Search "Silksong" in GoogleWhen did they do this?
>>541646557Again, I want a clip or something to tell me that it doesn't work in the new patch, Not just you saying it got patched.
>>541646670They got infected hard by the Fromsoft virus. Only even Fromsoft realized runbacks are a pointless waste of time and improved them in ER.
>>541646171This isn't a personal attack on you but it always amuses me when loremasters get bogged down on obvious gameplay mechanics. To your point, no Hornet does not have the combined knowledge of the Snail Shamans since she bound their crest. Nor does she have the knowledge of long-deceased architects. Crests are a way for players to experiment with different playstyles, for fun. Any in-game stuff around them is boilerplate flavourtext.I was watching a video the other day where a guy was angry and upset that there weren't clear explanations for what Charms were in Hollow Knight. At some point you just have to accept that some things are purely for gameplay.
>>541646774>To your point, no Hornet does not have the combined knowledge of the Snail Shamans since she bound their crest. Nor does she have the knowledge of long-deceased architects. Crests are a way for players to experiment with different playstyles, for fun. Any in-game stuff around them is boilerplate flavourtext.Even if there is one or two lines of the shamans getting a bit salty about her downloading the knowledge so easily while they had to actually do their shaman reps.
In the high halls after you push a cart in one room theres a door that leads to a room with clawmadens and eventually to a room with a lot of silk to hit. Anyone remember what it gives? I think all it showed me was the clawmaden journal entry but im not sure
>>541647104That room permanently disables clawmaiden enemies from spawning if you break the silk. That's why you get the journal entry.
>>541647207interesting
>>541646741The proof is the public beta on steam. Or you could go to reddit and see people talking about it being patched out. Or you could wait a few days for the actual update and test it for yourself if you aren't going to bother with the public beta.
>witch's charged attack works like a diet cyclone slash without anything that made cyclone slash goodThese devs spent 7 years nerfing the player moveset
People complain about all sorts of things but literally nothing in this game is more cancerous than input reading flying enemies
Zaza refuses to leave Lost Garmond. Hornet calls in a favour from Fleamaster and a small contingent of fleas are sent to the Blasted Steps to pick up both Garmond and Zaza, and take them to Fleatopia. Meanwhile, Hornet has commissioned Bone Bottom's menderbug to create a lifesize likeness of Garmond out of shards. Kratt and Vog have been sent to collect this statue and transport it to Fleatopia in one piece.Hornet herself convenes with the Bellhart shopkeep about green paint but when the shopkeep learns of the purpose, she instead advises Hornet to see the Moss Druid, who agrees to brew a special paint that never fades if [magic berries] can be found.In Fleatopia, a viking funeral is held for Garmond on the Pale Lake. At the edge of the lake, a small home for Zaza has been erected beside the now painted statue of Garmond, painted green and adorned with his armour. The solitary flea Varga takes a liking to Zaza and tends to her, ensuring she is looked after.
>>541648127I wonder how many people even realize that some people in Bone Bottom survived and fled to the first flea encampment. Shame that Pebb dies no matter what, and Pilby just disappears from the game entirely regardless of what you do.
>>541648467I saw the survivor camp supplies courier mission but never did it because I couldn't be arsed. I'd have done it if they'd given it a unique icon rather than the generic one.
on a journey to find every place in Pharloom that Hornet can wind up face-first in the floorthere's a lot. I actually missed this one on my run but speedran a bit to get it
Do you think TC will listen to all the complaints and make the next game less punishing and unfair, or double down and make it absolute hell
>>541652931>Will they listen to the casuals who got filtered or the fanboys who made them famous millionairesWho's to say. Anything is possible
>>541653202The casuals who bought the game by the millions won't bother with the next one if it's too hard for them again
>>541652931>Will they listen to fromdrones who like having their time wasted or the fanboys who made them famous millionairesWho's to say. Anything is possible
>>541652931Double downEvery boss will have a mandatory pre-boss gauntletWhen they get to half health they summon more enemies and if you take long (more than 3 seconds) they start to healThey will all summon randomly addsThey will all have two masks of contact damageThey will all randomly block attacksThey will all be fat fucks who throw themselves across the arena
>>541653985Don't forget every boss runback will be at least 4 minutes long and no shortcuts
>>541621442My first run was a reaper only because I didnt like any other pogo
>>541654637I use reaper for platforming sections and architect for most fights
the hunter pogo is so fucking annoying>slow ass start up frames>limited range leading to stopping right in the middle of enemy hurtbox>backward flip after hit>no iframes at all making even successful hits a punishment
>>541621442I would if there was an NG+ that allowed keeping your currently equipped crest + tools, plus rosaries, and nail, tool pouch, and crafting kit upgrades. NG+ should also set your save to Steel Soul for extra challenge, because Steel Soul is sorely lacking in content despite them promising a "Silk Soul" mode that changes the game drastically.
>>541654847Thats fair, I use pogo a lot in combat too so I took one look at architects and then put it away for good, didnt hear about how busted it was otherwise until I had already beaten act 3
>>541653985>if we kept only the interesting well choreographed fights, those where theme and combat are tightly attuned, we would be just a mere metroidvania>what do you mean our game doesn't have to waste at least a working week of time out of people's lives in pointless and uninteresting roadblocking filler?
I can't believe this lame cunt took me this many attempts
>>541655097i liked savage beastfly
>>541653985>They will all have two masks of contact damageFuck it, make them all Radiant
>>541644891i hate how his run across the screen after fingering guys at you attack isn't telegraphed at all
Are all the act 2 bosses gone when you go into act 3? Did I lock myself out of beating first sinner?
>>541655671no
>tormented trobbioWhat the fuck is this banger of a theme song my dick is so erect right now
i just beat 4th chorous, the only upgrades i have so far are the dash and the floating cloak. There's a hidden area at the bottom left of far fields that leads to deep docks, theres an enemy who throws giant bombs and a chest with a craftmetal. There's also a kinda crumbly ceiling and i can hear a guy working up there, as well as a gate (locked on this side) and a lever behind it.am i supposed to bait the explosive guy to blowing up the ceiling or is this just a 'come back later' kinda deal
>>541658509anon please come back later, that explosive guy is pure cancer that you're not prepared to deal with,and you can't do anything there without the harpoon
>>541644979>They managed to put some of their very best boss design AND some of their very worstfunnily enough I find the worst bosses in silksong significantly more tolerable than the worst bosses in HK, I'd rather nohit groal than fight markoth normally. Although maybe I'm just insane in some way since I also found savage beastfly (especially the refight) and unraveled fun after enough time learning them
>>541652931they just need to cut down runbacks a little, the difficulty is perfectly tuned speaking as someone who consistently got himself floored at new bosses
>>541658954i killed them fine, i just spent ages trying to hit the ceiling to no availi also have like 10 fucking markers on my map that only seem to be reachable by doublejump/wall cling which is triggering my tismi am enjoying how open ended this one is thoughi haven't fully explored far fields yet and i went with the mites to their new camp, there was an area to the left of the haunted place, and also i now ended up in some grey rainy place and found an inn, feels so open
>>541659481>i also have like 10 fucking markers on my map that only seem to be reachable by doublejump/wall cling which is triggering my tismI wish they made Hookshot available sooner, it feels like an essential part of the combat kit for fighting aerial enemies. And you can just not have it for a lot of Act 2 if you're stupid like me.
>>541659481you'll get wall cling very soon if you continue exploring the area left of haunted bellhart
I want hk 3 to be twice as big as ss
why do people bitch about this guy's difficulty he's easy as fuck once you learn to read the telegraphs fast
>>541659987GrantedIt's because you play as the Hollow Knight and the game has to literally be twice as big to accomodate his size.
>>541659897ah ok i kinda did the flea quest then was like 'i haven't finished with far fields yet' so i ran back and cleared all that, now im in the rainy place with the inn and the monster log girl, but it looks like exploring to the left takes me back to the flea place? But i didn't unlock the fucking gate when i was there. really enjoying the game so far though. the hunters place was tricky but i really liked fighting those big guys with the like bone sword thing
>>541660049I've seen literally absolutely not a single complain on that guy's difficulty
this game does an even worse job of explaining what's going on and why you're killing all these people than fromsoft shit
did anyone ever find this secret area in high halls?
>>541660495Are you stupid? Hornet says it multiple times
>>541653296HK was good enough to make a sequel off of. Team Cherry doesn't need the casuals.
crazy how the overton window shifted so much nowadays casuals seem reasonable and hardcore gamers turned into a cult of retards
>>541621442I'm still on my first playthough and I've been on Reaper the whole time. Been on LL for 3 (three) days now, no tools.When I do another playthough I think I will do Hunter only, as god intended. I didn't mind the diagonal pogo too much, navigated Hunter's March with it. But when I got Reaper the QOL improvements were just too comfy.
my only complaint about the game so far is how long you have to explore certain zones before you find the mapi dont care if it sounds casual, exploring without a map is just a tedious task in autism checking every single wall to see if its breakable, remembering every single door you went through etc.
>>541660320i complained about him because his void projectile attack is virtually undodgeable because in hk you were taught to dodge those attacks using shade cloak, not distancethe fight is boring as fuck too because it's the same attacks other voided enemies use and his only original attack is the triple lance poke
>>541661448Some bosses might be a little overtuned, but it's nothing insurmountable
>>541661448Crazy how somebody can lack self-awareness this badly.
>>541662145Can tell you I would literally never have found the Whispering Vaults map without looking it up online. I mean never. Also somewhat annoying, when I was doing Lost Verdania I chose not to do real-world Verdania because I thought OK I'll save that for later as a treat. Ended up doing all of Verdania mapless then got the map right after. That's my fault though.
>>541662145you'll find the map guy close by if you see golden rings scattered about, and she'll be summonable to bone bottom or bellhart if you hit a golden ring on a pole somewhere in the area
>>541662145this is also my complain, I swear they did it on purpose, multiple times I found the map as the last thing, the game is full of instances of "path A or B, you pick B and it's a gauntlet, and you end up exploring everything, while path A lead to a comfy room with the map that you completely end up missing"
>>541662813Your own fault for being retarded then.
>>541655420Mob summon is awful game design and all bosses that employ it are just bad, and pre-boss gauntlets are close second, especially if enemies are fucking flying around. To me peak boss fight has been Dancing Cogworkers so far, not out of difficulty or challenge, but because of the esthetics of the dance and the sense it makes in terms of the world itself.
>>541663154I don't mind fights when the boss summons minions, but also fucks off to let you fight themThat's what made Unravelled slightly bearable, for all of its other flaws in boss design
...Child... Weaver... ...Child... Spider... ...Arrived... At last... ...Our Silk... ...Our strength... ...Our nature... ...We feel it... ...Rise... Rise... …Come, child… Witness our waking…well this sounds oddly motherly when you replace our with my....Better a child spun mad... than none... (Lace?) ...Better a child spun frail... than none(Phantom?)... ...Better a child spun pure... than them (them- Lace&Phantom or weavers? , pure-?) ... ...One to wish our waking... …From our Silk… A child born loyal…ok so many people thought that the 3rd heart is about Lace. but methinks it's also about Hornet. Our silk > mentioned in the first heart.I don't see how Pure would be anyone but hornet. One to wish our waking > hornet wakes her up, not Lace.
>>541663996that's the royal we in use, gms is using that to refer to herselfi think the child spun x lines refer not to any specific character but to gms's wish of having a child of her own that won't fuck her over like the weavers did
>>541663996>Better a child spun pure... than themBetter Lace or Phantom than the Weavers who betrayed her>One to wish our wakingI think this means "one who wishes for us to wake up" >pure SilkA child spun pure couldn't be Hornet, she's literally a half-breed. She's talking about a child spun from pure Silk.
Any knowers here? I just talked to the fleamaster and he said he had a lot of fleas and they are departing for drier caves. I am still in act 2 is that supposed to happen?
>>541665640they want me to travel with them. Should i have not talked to him at all? If i accept do i move to act 3 or something?
>>541665785Always accept to move with the fleas.It doesn't move you to act 3.
>>541662647oh im sure i'll find them eventually, its not a 'difficulty' to much as just tedious imo
>>541662145cornifer was worse in some areas imo
Any hope for a chritsmas DLC ?
trobbio and tormented trobbio are literally style over substance>bro what if fireworks and tornados and AoE covering literally the entire arena at all times lol!absolutely terrible boss designlooks cool tho guess it's all they wanted
>>541666912They’re so fucking easy. I’ve never played any other metroidvania games and I beat Trobbio in one try both times.
I'm kidnapping a bell puppy
>>541667437You monster
Ok Shakra fight is the first BADLY designed fight in the game. I refuse to cheese her with tools i just want to make it fair but its literally rng of me spamming clawline OVER and over and OVER
If the games keep moving up the tech tree, the next with a Victorian/Grand Siècle aesthetic I think would be really cool.
next game will have 3 currencies, it will charge for everything, including saving the game, the basic needle attack will be shorter that wanderer crest and pogo will be diagonal only and will have to be a counter attack for it to connect, otherwise you will fall and contact damage
what do they talk about
>>541669260she has only one punishable attack and it's the dash on the ground, everything else you just have to dodge, it's a longwinded fight and i didn't enjoy it either.
>>541669260it's the best fight in the game and it should be the benchmark for hk3 bosses
>>541670029>Watching Mottled Skarr writhe in pain when we stabbed him sure was funny.>Heh heh, you got that right.
>>541669935>needle attacks cost currency
I insta alt f4ed because i dont wanna win like this but what other option even is there. Sure you can react to some stuff but the teleporting is ridiculous and to add 15 ring throws per minute on top of it leaves you no alternative than just spamming clawline until you stun then unload and pray you get hit enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixfIKwqZ3TM>1:10so apparently cross stitch gives you about 8 months worth of iframes?
>>541666645no what the fuckwhy would they do that
>>541671683It's a terrible bossfight. Don't feel bad for using the tools the game gives you.
>>541672370I did it with no tools basically dodge fest until she slams down hook unload repeat. Still i expected more from this boss fight. At this point id rather they made her a minigame where you have to beat her at ring throws
>>541662539you saw the beginning of a drab cave with spikes and thought to yourself this will be a treat?
>Hornet is stuck with a make a wish kid
So. Seven years of waiting. What did I recieve? A game that locks multiple essential upgrades behind minigames, while every boss and its mother move at unreasonable speeds, dealing double damage all the while. Silksong doesnt know restraint.
>>541671683It’s doable without clawlinr. I know this because on my 100% playthrough I treated clawline as a pure mobility tool and never used it to do damage.
>>541546170>>towns can die if you don't do deliveriesNPCs already die if you don't exhaust all their interactions: mini-games, shop items, etc.Except one case where exhausting it kills instead.
>>541551147Pretty sure it's sped up. Misleading as fuck.
>>541670029>I'd still tap Karmelita's ass>same
runbacks farming and backtracking are not meaningful interactions
>>541675874this guy gets crushed by rocks during the act 3 citadel collapse though
>>541662145I really didn't like how the citadel didn't have shakra in it, instead of her rings and singing it's just "get lucky and find whatever random item stores the map"
>>541684039you can tell from her ventrica pins dialogue that she hates being in unnatural environments
>>541652931>>541653985every boss and enemy needs to do 3 masks of damage, you have to go through a 40 wave gauntlet to get the final boss who you proceed to play minigames against
>>541684039there are signs that mark rooms with the map
>parasite>lifeblood>voidwhat else did hornet injest that's the equivalent of injecting yourself with heroin after zapping yourself with radiation?
>>541655671only npc interactions get affected, anything that's part of completion perfentage isn't
Seth was easier than people said he would beNyleth was a bit of painFirst gauntlet Coral Tower beat first try, second gauntlet the big red guy beat my ass
If they had a fully designed coral area that they scrapped, why couldn't they just have made that a dream area that's explorable, like how lost verdania is?
any boss whose main gimmick is that they just teleport all over the arena relentlessly is a garbage boss
>>541686043For the big fuckers just pogo their head they don't have much health they'll probably hit you atleast once but you'll have plenty of Silk from it anyway
>silksong combat
so what's the deal with mr mushroom anywaywho and what is heis he bador is he just mad
>>541688215my take is he's a joke character/self insert of the devs
Whats the deal with this? Best bounce falls a few frames short tried searching for a secret tunnel near bench nothin. Halp
>>541688946what? where?
>>541688946I recognize that spot, I don't think you can bounce through there
>>541689113Sands of Karak left the bench with the simple key just before the elevator>>541689167aight gonna try look for another way up
>>541688946>>541689292Post map location
>GMS is never part of these
>>541689113>>541689167>>541689489im stupid theres an orb at the bottom and you can pogo red flowers all the way to the top
Lmao to top it all off i ended up in a voltcave with 3 hp and theres a boss inside. Jesus it was very well hidden too thank god im paranoid
>>541691629Lucky for you that boss is piss easy, its only challenge is making you panic a bit the first time when you don't know what's going on
Repairing the Fractured Mask should cost shards.
>>541690449Styx just wants to be amazon femdommed by Hornet’s “queen’s eggs”. He’s real subtle about it.
>>541691914yea it wasnt so bad got it 3rd try. I guess its challenge is that the lightning effect lingers a bit so you cant dodge on the spot you came from
>>541692604every bench usage should cost shardconsulting the map should cost shardsilk skills should cost shard
game should have hunger and sleep mechanics for better immersionalso the sleep mechanic should be unskippable 7 hrs cutscene of hornet sleeping for realism
>>541686795Didn't they? Where Krusty Kang and his gauntlets are.
Whats the lore here?
>>541695808crust is kang
>>541695808WE WUZ KANGZ
>>541695808He sleeps under the mountain until his kingdom needs him
Anons any other unique things in act 2 i need to do on my first run? I fought Garmond and Zaza and Shakra.
Someone with architect try drinking too much flea brew and see what happens
>>541697241find every flea if you care about that, I think you can find them all on act 2? idk, explore the whole map and do every quest on the quest boards
>>541699132quests are all done. As for the fleas is there a way to check how many you saved? cause i saved a lot of them but definately not all.
>>541697241Get the first ending.
Why do adds spawn in ornstein and smough's boss fight in the deep docks
>>541699349>As for the fleas is there a way to check how many you saved?not that I know of, but once the fleas settle on their last location, there's an npc that sells you the location on the map of any flea you may be missing, though I don't remember if that interaction is available in act 2 or is it act 3 only
>>541700069definately not act 2 since ive talked to everyone at the cave
>>541700069You can get flea locations in Act 2>>541700162You talked to Vog?
>>541700382not yet the fleamaster told me to look for an npc to protect the camp i was about to go do it now. Maybe thats the guy that sells the map
>>541700021because TC didnt know how to make every bossfight good so instead they went for annoying
>>541699349>As for the fleas is there a way to check how many you saved?Tracker in the OP
>>541700021Because they only have two moves each and would've been a bit too easy otherwise.
>>541702878They can just add more moveset then
Alright starting karmelitalets see if I can beat her before 2AM
>>541704536>cancer gauntlet before the actual bossOf courseThey clearly ran out of ideas by this point huh
>>541704536hurry up you've only got 8 hours left>>541704986it's 2 waves
>>541705117>hurry up you've only got 8 hours leftThere's an entire planet outside of america
>>541704986The ant gauntlet is more of an annoyance compared to Karm, if you get sloppy the Last Claws might get you though
>>541705431You're not gonna believe this, but there's actually way more than just one planet outside of America.
>>541706773I don't think there's anyone on Uranus playing Silksong
>>541655042I really wish there was a NG+. I feel like more people would enjoy a NG+ over just Steel Soul. Not everyone likes permadeath
Getting the flea maps is hilarious on your first playthrough. How on earth did i miss those spots they seem so obvious now.
>ehehehe lets make a boss that punishes aggressive fighting so you'll have to be slow and methodic>ohohoho lets also give her 80 quadrillion HP>ahahaha we're such cunts lmaoGetting tired of this shit ngl
>>541708171Shitter complaints are so amusing.
>>541671683It's 100% doable without tools
>>541695808Don't diss /our/boy Crust King Shao Khann
>>541621442I'm on my hands and knees praying they add a NG+ that at least lets you carry over your crests. I want to play the whole game as Witch and Shaman. Yes I know there are mods, thats not the same.
>>541545905I opted for Shaman crest with Longclaw and just chipped her down with the occasional cross-stitch for when I placed myself into a bad spot.Brought nails and dart as well but only used nails once or twice, rest was spent on healing.
>>541708754I actually wish i got Witch earlier because you can really play aggressive with itAnd it sucks how you get Shaman at like the dead end of the game. You don't really get much time to really use it
>>541708171And she can block hits as well!
>>541708443yea i mean i did it but it wasnt fun was it. I maintain they should have made us compete in a minigame with her with rings.
>>541708974I wish you could have a NG+ mode
>>541709097Yeah, literally more than half my attacks are either parried or she just dodges. Input reading makes fights truly fun.
>>541709247Haviung a NG+ mode and a Steel Soul mode would've been greatAdd an option to do a NG+ Steel Soul mode for the people that like permadeath. I feel like a lot of people would love a NG+ mode
>>541686823First Sinner was fun. Bosses being as large as the arena and throwing themselves across are the real cancer. How the fuck do I deal with Liguli?
>>541569396>bug globalism>bug UN>long proboscis bugs suspiciously prevalent in positions of power across otherwise-culturally-distinct bug nations>any attempt at discussion regarding this fact is met with the bugs involved mysteriously disappearing
>>541709573>Beast Crest has no blues so you cant even be Skarr accurate and equip the Mask unless you use a vesticrestBOOOOOOOOOOO
>>541709779People struggle with Ass Jim? He has like 3 attacks. Just hit him during the gaps between his attacks and pogo his butt lunges. And its not like you dont have ranged options like skills or tools to zone him out.
>>541709779>How the fuck do I deal with Liguli?Cogflies and sting shard
>>541709953if it had ONE (1) blue that wasn't from the vesticrest, that'd be GREATWhy does the game not want me to be an unhinged insect
Yeah okay fuck this garbage. I literally can't do it. Needle, tools, aggressive, slow, hunter, reaper, wanderer, architect, fucking nothing works. I can't.Call me a shitter and a faggot and filtered and whatever the fuck you want. It's true. I'm not good enough for this shit and I don't want to keep banging my head against this wall, especially when every attempt requires the fucking 3 hour long needolin cutscene and a tedious gauntlet against flying shits.Just fuck off.I'm gonna dick around in Verdania for a while.
>>541710851lmaohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw4pHkHqaVc
Wait a minute beast crest has no blues? Like at all? Brooo i wanted my second run to be beast crest with long claw what is this
