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Life Drain Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-02-2025-update.84332/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>541536421
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MINA HAAAAA
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Paige's hairy logcutter.
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>>541596910
I do no damage even when people don't build gun res shit
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>>541597342
God I wish she kicked me
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This made me cackle IRL
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drifter's ult should hit one target, not two
it's ridiculously busted
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>>541597841
it’s not that strong
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>>541597702
https://youtu.be/MK6TXMsvgQg?si=dXqWlpCIONJBeWw6
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>>541597897
>completely incapacitate two(three) enemy heroes from a teamfight for almost 10 seconds
i'm sure it's not yeah
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>>541597702
Looping him like it's DBD.
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>>541597702
drifter baby killer kek
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>lay deadlock
>lose and get angry
>ask myself why i don't read or go workout or play at least games that won't make me mad
>take 30 minute break to shitpost here about how much i hate this trash
>repeat
this is my life how do i escape
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>>541598246
Stop losing?
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>>541598246
If 1 loss gets you that bad then take a break for like a day or something you're taking this shit too seriously.
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>>541598246
everytime you lose a game, you do your other things until you finally let go of deadlock
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SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!!
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>>541598246
wow are you me?
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>>541597702
Why didn't he just jump on the boxes?
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what is it about victor that makes mina AND paige wet their panties
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>>541599131
Rigamortis
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>>541597702
.webms that physically hurt to watch jesus christ how horrifying
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>>541599131
he looks like a rock star (living)
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Is there any character that hard counters mina? If I have to watch this bitch press 2 twice into 4 one more goddamn time when I have her dead to rights I'm going to fucking kill myself.
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>>541599527
any character when you buy silence wave
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>>541599527
focus lens
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>>541599643
never buy this piece of shit item, just buy curse instead
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The black woman οf Valve unοriginality.
These are TWO different characters.
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>>541598137
he has to max it for it. and you don't know what you're asking for anyway, if it only hit 1-2 at most the cooldown would be incredibly low to compensate and make him awful to play against
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>>541599854
i don't give a fuck that nigger doesn't deserve teamfight utility of this level
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>>541599585
Ok but if you were any character in the game laning against a mina what character would you prefer to be?
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>>541600002
vindicta or something
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>>541600002
Warden
>decent health pool without being a fridge
>drain half of her stamina with flask
>can follow up on slowing hex with a cage
>willpower as you're going in to nullify love bites
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>Hows that loss streak treat'n ya son?
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>>541600362
bad.
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>>541600002
Mirage
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>>541600362
I went on an 8 win streak and got to Ritualist 1 and then got beat down by two people on my team going 0/8/2 after 30 mins
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>>541599131
He's ripped and they think they can fix him and they know they can't
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>>541599928

This. It should be either a constant AOE centered on him like Nightstalker silence, or a one-unit targeted spell. There's no reason you should be able to completely shut down 2-3 people by running in and mashing a button.
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>>541600724
>they think they can fix him and they know they can't
Isn't Victor a super chill guy? What's there to fix? He isn't Drifter or Seven.
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Nothing like some Mo and Skill gaming to get me motivated.
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>>541599131
he is tall and smells
more characters will show interest in him
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>>541601045
Think about the fact he's a walking corpse that's made of people he's never known, he can't even tell what's his and what's other people, except for his left arm. Add to that the fact that he doesn't know why or by who he was made for. He's handsome and undying, chicks love that.
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>>541601487
>woke up on a mortuary table
how often does he update his journal?
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>>541601942
holy shit how did I not think of that sooner

Anyways Inhouse anyone?
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>>541597223
Golden Infernus
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>>541598198
>>541599196
He actually did die because of this goose chase lol
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>>541602240
five nights at the cursed apple
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>>541597342
But Does she play her role to perfection?
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>played a LOT of deadlock today
>it's late and just won two games in a row
>debate whether I risk a third
>go for it and have one of the worst most irratating stomps I've ever been subjected to
>mood ruined and head in pain
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There is literally nothing worse than playing with pussies?
You split push? What do they do? Nothing, they farm the friendly camp.
You get pressured? What do they do? Nothing, they farm the friendly camp.
You get a pick and manage to get an advantage? Nothing, they farm the friendly camp.

There is no scenario where you can win, you can play around retards who brawl too much or overextend, you can't play around someone so terribly afraid to die they refuse to leave the Walker stomp area or go down the stair in lane.
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>>541602519
One of my longest winstreaks ever was from quiting after 2 wins, I would play 2 games a day win both and it was like a month of straight wins
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This game BADLY needs a surrender vote.
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>>541602240
Ultra Instinct Viscous.
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>>541603039
anon's shaders have evolved
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>>541597702
we should all remember this video when someone is crying about victor
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cmon guys we can't end the week without a proper inhouse match
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>>541603559
i'm not hosting it because if i do everyone else will have 300 ping
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>>541603559
hai
it’ssu time
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>>541597342
Is she going to rise up and take what she deseeeeeeeeeeeeeeerves?
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>>541599527
>Is there any character that hard counters mina?
All the ults that movement lock you, Mo&Krill in particular. If the Mina isn't retarded you won't be able to get her with any normal stuff
t. Mina player
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>>541597702
holy kek
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>>541598246
watch some sajam vids. his mindset eventually got to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHckk5jPqT4
overcoming the ego and the tilt will make you a far better player and a far happier human bean, but it is a lot of work to always choose the high road when you get annoyed at something.
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New mark mirage, draft 2

First 3 for investment stat powerspike
>Extra spirit
Efficient stats, mystic burst does not work with mark
>extended mag
Builds into Escalating resilience, need an ammo increase to get max mark w/o reload
>Healing rite
For regen purposes, is better than mystic regen by a hair but we get both


First Core
>compress cooldown
Enables the mark, total x8 stack time 6s, the ammo+ let's our mag last 7.5s compared to 5.8s base
>mystic regen
Too good with mark spam, since the mark is enabled we go for more sustain
>enchanters emblem
Decent flat spirit which is preferred for mark, also gives cdr

> Escalating resilience
It fits into marks gameplan from every angle, the additional ammo prevents us from reload cucking ourselves, the resistance stacks very well with evasion and general sustainability enables mirage to drag fights and win through mark attrition

>spirit lifesteal
Enables more mark Healing, builds into infuser which is a great source of flat spirit power but its lower priority than the other late game items

At this point we are at 3.2k thresholds for our stat bonuses

Late game
>Divine kevlar
Duration is very good for mirage kit, flat spirit power is great, shield on ult is great
>boundless
Largest source of flat spirit power we can get, will be hitting massive after this
>ricochet
Spread the mark, essential before the late game mid/patron fights

At this point we are at our 9.6k stat bonuses

The rest is left open for flexibility
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meow :3
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>>541604713
>winning a game
>suddenly someone in our team dies for whatever stupid reason
>blames someone in our team aka "plz stop farming and do something"
>shouting match ensues
>match lost
It's so fucking common in these kinds of games it's insane.
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I genuinely don't remember the last time I won more than two games in a row
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>>541604959
Where's the typical Mirage extra fire rate so he can chase you and spam gun while yelling "FOR THE DJINN! RAAAAAAAAH!"
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>>541604176
it's joever
until next friday
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>>541604993
so many people just act like theyve never dropped a stinker, like get over yourself man
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>>541604976
I feel like I'd kinda like Calico if she wasn't THE ugliest character in the game.
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>about to get a 3 man charge on abrams
>paige ult comes in and knocks all of them up
>charge straight under all of them and instantly die
i hate seeing this bitch on my team so god damn much
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>>541604993
you have to be the mediator and avoid the bickering. also try to word your comms positively. instead of "stop farming!" say "come help us, X" and instead of "why are you feeding" say "play defensive, X, you got this"
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>>541604993
Most people who play videogames are either children, or man children, and most children/manchildren who spend all day on the computer are both entitled and lacking emotional control.
On top of that the type of people who play competitive games don't play them for fun, they play them to win. And if they don't win, their false sense of accomplishment isn't met. If they do win, they keep queue'ing because winning at videogames isn't real accomplishment.

that'll be $800 for the psychology lesson
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How do i push a lane without dying at the first encounter?
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>>541606132
Her retarded head shape and hairstyle are made up for by her cute interactions with Ava and the kitty noises every time you use abilities
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>>541606132
don't worry, she has the most boring and one-note playstyle in the entire game as well
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>have battle vest and gun res
>gun doorman still plinking me for 700 damage a bullet
how did this nigger dodge nerfs
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>>541606612
The game has just been updated
A support hero has the best gun in the game
The game has just been updated
A support hero has the best gun in the game
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>>541606391
look at your map and count the enemies.
if you can see all 6 of them and they aren't near you, it's free
if you can see 5 and the 1 you can't see can beat you in a 1v1, don't push your luck; push to near the walker and leave if they appear to defend it
if you can beat them, then play more aggressively at the walker and get as much damage as you can or beat them and then take the walker.
always be wary of how much time you are spending exposed on the map because (sometimes) people will rotate to gank you unless your teammates are equally applying map pressure on all the other lanes.
if there are two enemies not accounted for on the map, just push the troopers ahead and then farm jungle.
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Did icefraud fuck around with last hitting again? it feels awful, often I will shoot at the moment the green orb glows and it won't register, or I will shoot at the same time as the opponent the moment it glows and he will deny it somehow. Does higher ping still give an advantage?
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>>541599527
Infernus is really good against her if you can proc afterburn because of her naturally low hp.
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>>541606849
>>541606391
how does the vision you get for fighting the enemy creeps work? if I nuke the incoming wave from behind am I still revealed or do I have to be near their creeps to be seen?
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>>541606869
You're just bad at the game, it's heavily favored to your side
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>>541607003
i don't know exactly how it works, but i assume doing any kind of damage to troopers reveals you and they have a sight radius around them.
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>>541607064
I know timings, thank you very much for the useless input niggerman.
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>>541606869
I gave up on trying to understand it, there is clearly something wrong with the system
Just shoot the orbs and hope for the best
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alright, here's the new meta. you guys ready
>pick dynamo
>rush refresher as first item
>win
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How long do we realistically have to the halloween update? A week? Two weeks? Three weeks? More which would mean the content update is not a halloween one :( ?
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I want to create a troll build where you are so slippery, nobody can ever catch you.
Which hero should I pick & what items should I buy?
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>>541608113
magic carpet sinclair
you probably won't win but you can be annoying as fuck.
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>warden still not nerfed
>billy still not nerfed
how long do heroes have to be a problem before they get off their asses
jesus fuck
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>>541608235
>warden
one of the devs favorite character, will never receive strong nerfs
>billy
but decay and parry him
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>>541608224
What's the plan?
Just put assistant somewhere safe in the back, then swap & magic carpet the fuck away if anybody jump you?
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>>541608113
Just Mo&Krill with a regular meta build.
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>>541608541
CDR maxx to steal good ults and bunny people repeatedly, you don't even have to pre-plan your assistant, just use it as a teleport to create a gap while magic carpet casts.
you can also just build him as a tank instead of magic carpet, be slippery AND hard to kill. get increased AoE too to make your bunny zone big and to scale any ults you steal.
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>>541608224
the fact that they didn't make magic carpet meta on the magician character is proof enough we should all quit
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I am now convinced the worst playerbase is billy, every single one of these inbreds gets parried on the first wave EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME HOW
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>>541608850
oh also get duration on bunny, if your team can't win with them constantly being useless bunnies then your team deserved to lose.
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>have game of your life on drifter
>lose anyway
this hero is so bad that getting all the kills takes the money away from good heroes so you lose it's sad
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>Game says I am a Seeker
>Regularly get Arcanist and Alchemist games
Why
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>>541608785
>>541608850
>>541609341
I just want to be slippery and impossible to kill.
Being useful/helpful is secondary. It should be absolutely risk free for me if I try to help.
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>>541608235
billy is manageable
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>>541609528
>I just want to be slippery and impossible to kill.
Yeah, like i told you, any Mo&Krill build
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>>541609412
why the fuck do you have so many spirit items
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i have literally never had a good mina on my team, and every enemy mina wins their lane by themself and feeds off my team for 30 minutes straight
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>>541609418
Nigga what the fuck, I haven't even SEEN this rank
What the fuck man, I AM A SEEKER
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>>541609412
post build and 3 stacks
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>>541609418
>>541609791
it's the weekends so people are stacking.
you were likely the anchor low rank on a team to "balance" out a stack or something.
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>>541609796
>>541609690
hybrid is good and they helped gun build anyway
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>>541610235
need more green items and less purple items if you want to 1v6 on drifter
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playing a hero that can't delete walkers by themself is so miserable, not only are you at the mercy of matchmaking to give you heroes on your team that can (because sometimes it will just give you 6 heroes that can't do objective damage for shit as a treat) but that the ones on your team that do have them will actually split and not run at the enemy 24/7
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only miserable fucks play wraith
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>enemy team has warden and mina
>lane against them
guess i'll fuck myself or something
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>>541610575
what one versus that team though?

I would have gone spirit resist if grey talon didnt go gun build. He had glass cannon cause none of our dps could hit him at range. Debuff reducer not slot efficient just for mo and krill
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Inhouse NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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alright guys, wish me luck, I am solo queuing right now.
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>>541612129
dont do that. give me your friend code
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i'll host inhouse after i finish compiling shaders for borderlands 4, in like 10 minutes or some shit.
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>>541610235
of all T4s you could get, you chose arctic blast?
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>>541606216
This but Lash/Mina/Bebop and "friendly" Kelvin.
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>15 games in a row of evenly fought matches
>since friday night, bunch of fucking retards in a row, primarily people who have no idea what sustain is vs poke comp lanes

weekend dota....weekend dota never dies
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I'm a top 800 Victor btw
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>>541612571
that was a panic buy upgrade with no slots to defend base
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INHOUSE

4VKMR
4VKMR
4VKMR

Lets attempt to have some fun.
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>>541613105
I'm a top 15,000 player (less than 15,000 people play deadlock)
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No, Mina. The drooling blood does not make you look cute. It makes you look like a retard.
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>>541613105
I started playing Billy a week ago, I have 25 games as him total and apparently i'm in the top 800 lol....

Top 500 for Seven and i've played maybe 15 matches total since coming back to the game after a few months.
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>>541613927
it symbolizes her playerbase.
they are all drooling retards.
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>>541613927
it's a lot like having cum drizzling out of her mouth after she just finished sucking someone off. it's exactly like that actually
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NEED 6 FOR INHOUSE
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>roll away from enemy melee
>it hits despite being visually 5+ meters away
>enemy rolls away from my melee
>it misses despite my fist going up their asshole
game is shit
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So if we disregard the VN as no longer canon, how old is Lady Geist? From her new interaction with Victor we learn that the Doctor Johan is Geist's son (or so she says) and he's young enough for Infernus to refer to him as a "good kid" (so he's no older than 40). She must be older than Kelvin for her comment about age to make sense.
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>>541612129
>>541612509
it is over
everyone one the team is a new player but me
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>>541614326
solo queue claims yet another...
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>>541614326
Why are 60% of my games like this?
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damn the high velocity buff actually makes it a great pick up on haze now
make yourself hitscan for 800 souls
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>>541614326
>queueing on the weekend
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>>541609412
More like the Amber Heard the way your team shit the bed
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>>541614326
>shitter carried by a stack eats shit on solo que
many such cases
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4VKMR
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4VKMR

NEED 4 FOR INHOUSE
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>>541614667
kek
my paige was actually good at least she got my huge stacks the rest were pretty retarded
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NEED 2 FOR INHOUSE
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>>541614326
this match had the most cowardly drifter I ever seen. he maybe ulted twice the entire match
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>>541614236
Around 80.
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>>541613927
wrong. she looks cute AND retarded.
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meppz ready up NOW!
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meppz u tard wake up
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meppz you brown gorilla nigger ready up
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Cultist Sacrifice is such an OP item.
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>>541615438
>buys a real t3 item
>crushes your balls
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how do i win games
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>>541615736
Uninstall the mod
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Is Pocket banned from inhouse or can I shit all over everyone?
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>play a bunch of games as the honest support m1 genieman
>rank down
>play a bunch of games as an ez spirit nuker
>rank up
is this pseudosmurfing? it feels like smurfing.
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>>541615982
yamato not being a freaky ayy is integral to my enjoyment of the game
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>>541600362
Was on a 6 loss streak after the patch. Stopped playing for 3 days and came back and played another match, losing again. Pain.
I'm still really looking forward to that new gamemode though, I honestly just play deadlock to shmoove with shiv, so that will probably become my main gamemode if it's good.
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>>541615438
it used to be
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can't find a single good deadlock streamer
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Fast as fuck victor doesn't work if your team doesn't have another carry and every other lane fucking dies. I've started pivoting towards the early lifesteal build in more of my games to farm camps. Even if I win my lane and can roam at 12m/s what good does it do if the rest of my team can't secure the farm?
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to the nigger shiv who left a 14-5 game while we were winning just because he went 0-2 fuck you
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NOOOOOO I WAS WAITING ALL DAY TO JOIN THE INHOUSE AND I MISSED IT?
THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT
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Barney goo goo

with the goo goo googly eyes
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>>541616997
another one soon (if anyone leaves)
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idk who that holliday was but holy shit every time she left base she went to the wrong lane it was killing me
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Who is the best anti-rat?
It should be Mirage, right? But when I play him his teleport is so slow and he has no CC to really stop them from melting objectives. If you teleport before they reach the objective, you're a sitting duck and they can prepare to nuke you (sort of like doorman ult) but if you do it when they reach the objective the damage will already be done. Am I just anti-ratting wrong? idk.
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UH AMBER BROS? MIND EXPLAINING THAT LOSS?
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>>541617431
that was me
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>>541617462
the best anti-rat is another rat
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I fucking did it bros.
however my farming skills are terrible, which is a little hard to improve when i have to babysit lanes so much
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>>541617462
The cat, obviously.
>Sprint around map at mach speed with 20 second cooldown and win every 1v1
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>>541617618
babysitting lanes gets you tons of souls
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>>541617681
but not when you have to go from one lane to the other because your team is brooling at all times.
going from one walker to another takes a ton of time
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>>541617763
shrimply just get movespeed, the best stat in the game.
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>make spirit resist not work on victor
>give his 3 built in spirit resist that can't be lowered.

i actually don't understand anymore.
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>gun is overpowered!!
>can't even exist near geist/grey talon/wraith/bebop/kelvin
>have witchmail, spellbreaker and 60% spirit resist
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>>541617763
teleporters my nigga
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>>541618265
how the fuck is grey talon chunking you when you have spellbreaker.
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>mina walks into walker stun range
>gets grabbed by mo and krill
>blames me for not being a "frontliner"
>3 other people ask him what the fuck he's talking about
lel
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>>541615736
>how do i win games
Pick Haze, 1v11, play alone and ignore the whole retarded team
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>>541614236
isn't it just more likely that johann is both her father and son (johan jr) but because her husband is dead she just refers to a singular johann
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>>541618384
sir, the second arrow has hit the tower
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>>541618854
>father
husband
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>>541618265
why spend money on witchmail when you can just counterspell it for half the money and take 0 damage instead of lesser damage
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>>541618854
She literally says "Go see my son Johan, he's a doctor". The real question is whether he is her son or actually her grandson (which is how it was in the VN)
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4VKMR
4VKMR
4VKMR

need 1 for inhouse
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>>541609528
Mina w/ Majestic Leap
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>>541619324
witchmail has half the cd of counter spell
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>>541615736
shoot buildings
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>>541616273
the only hero banned from the inhouse is Mo and Krill
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This is gonna sound autistic but I really do not like the design of these drop aoe and fuck off heroes
Geist
Ivy
All intent on wasting game time and forcing you to buy stamina mastery to dodge these cringy as fuck skills. It doesn't help that you can't hear it really until it's right on top of you, I think this game in general just has an issue with sound cues most of the time. Like if I hear a Grey Talon charging at lane width realistically I should be able to hear it, or some soaring noise as the Geist bomb flies at me. It's the balancing knobs I wish they'd just fuck with so they can actually balance them to not be shit/broken more easily because the cringy laning phase is literally all they have most of the time
Like tell me Mcginnis is possible to interact with. And I'm also gonna kvetch a bit because some heroes are definitely not designed around mid and I kept getting put mid it's so depressing
And everyone wants to be with their duos so nobody swaps
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>>541621008
mid lane being weird has been an issue for a while now
>stamina mastery
lolwhat
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why does the filter not work on the black woman of originality ritualposter even when I put his comment in, it shows up in threads after

am I retarded
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>>541621008
>Like if I hear a Grey Talon charging at lane width realistically I should be able to hear it, or some soaring noise as the Geist bomb flies at me.
both of these have pretty loud sound cues
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>>541621008
every time someone complains about lane i only assume they play a character with shit laning, or they cant aim
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>>541621206
>am I retarded
well I mean you are that, but I don't know why your filter isn't working
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>>541621301
i play a character with (an allegedly) shit lane and can't aim but i do fine
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>>541621262
I have absolutely been mid distance and only been able to react on the bow flash and not the sound
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>>541621362
Spread your knowledge kind individual
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This game needs more porn.
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>>541622089
i look up ivy on e621 and get 200 pictures of her butthole
seems fine to me
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Ok where's the fucking update, the REAL TESTERS have been getting 3 updates a fucking day on the private branch while we SUFFER YOSHI you HACK
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>3 people talking in mic
>someone called to not rush back to defend walker but just traded for two
>paige called for a midboss steal with his ult to win the game
is this what life is like in non-pisslow?
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YUP YUP YUP another CLASSIC WARDEN VICTORY!
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Why do people keep calling their build "1 shot", but then it's actually them chasing the enemy down for 10 seconds, using various skills, and then using the gun in between?
Did I misunderstand what "one shot" mean?
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wow he pressed R and he won woowwww
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>>541623165
he won because he reloaded?
intersting
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>>541621206
you will simply have to scroll passed that one post. may god grant you the strength to endure this task
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The cheating has been fucking wild this week
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>>541623239
NTA but maybe he's a gigglechad like me and bound his ultimate to R
I have my reload bound to scrollwheel
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>look up the highest rank drifters to see if any go spirit
>rank 1 drifter in world playing at the same shitter mmr matches as me in ritualist
LMAO what the fuck
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>>541623472
no I think he was bitching about active reload
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>>541623498
there are so few people higher than ritualist that everyone gets squished together
the rank system is just bad
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>>541623498
https://statlocker.gg/match/44162945/summary

Forgot the link to the match
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I fucking got dabbed on and the inhouse was hard to play, but I learned a lot by actually playing nigfernus for the first time lol
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>multishot ricochet Yamato m2
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I am learning to love the hook again with hybrid bebop
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ngl I thought people were memeing about most of the in-house being initiates, but some of you are actually so god awful it makes laning and then the rest of the match actually unfun
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>>541623589
but then their ranks basically arent real it's just whoever farms the worse players and abuses lack of coordination
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>>541623865
Build?
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>>541622436
that rank is still shitlow
everything below oracle is shitlow
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>>541623946
yet if anyone tries to win you cry hard about it too
can't win with you losers
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>>541624214
Gee I wonder who’s behind this post
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>>541624214
that’s literally not me, unc
:skull:
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>>541624035
I'm doing a slight variant on a weird build I found. Hook level 2 is important to get early (though I might level bomb to 1 before idk). Late game I usually buy Plated Armor or Spellbreaker. It lets me focus on hooks without getting fucked by bomb counters or just not really doing enough with Gun.
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>>541622436
once you get out of initiate there are actually people who are playing to win yeah
>>541624101
scroll up, no difference from being higher rank youre all placed in the same games half the time
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>>541620107
>>541619324
>>541618265
It's not just grey talon, it's a bombardment of fucking collateral AOE.
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>>541624443
I put Melee Lifesteal in because there's no anchor 3k green item btw, it's probably putting in work on the cheap
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>>541597223
I am not having any more fun with this game holy shit I can't find any builds that work all my matches are stomps still. This shit sucks man.
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>>541624592
And I should prolly put in Spirit Strike, idk how the slots work out
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>landed my very first (and only ever) 5 man Deathslam
Lash is finally clicking bros.
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>>541624214
bad players cry about people playing to win
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Why am I hooked on playing Victor?
His buff/nerf status looks like his healthbar in a big fight.
Up and down like crazy.
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Do different movement speed malus sources stack? Like Slowing Bullets, Mystic Slow, Slowing Hex, and Point Blank? I'm assuming they either only apply the highest malus or stack multiplicative instead of additive.
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I love pocket so much bros...
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>>541625307
he’s gone from tank to lategame carry category with seven, haze, wraith, infernus
You just have to hope you outdps your underfed enemies and lifesteal off that
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How can someone be so fucking stupid as to die 15 times in a game? How is that realistically possible?
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https://streamable.com/kv4u2y

nice fucking game dotards
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>viscous can hit you behind cover with goo ball
>viscous can hit you behind and knock you out of cover with puddle punch
>for some reason also has an alt-fire that also renders cover useless
man what the fuck
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>>541625576
Being focused.
I've had games with 10+ deaths.
Literally all of them were the enemy deathballing me specifically for half the match.
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>>541625678
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>>541625576
Unlucky start + getting focused all game
Or just pure hubris
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Trying to play haze but I literally can't find a build that isn't retarded or filled with an essay length descriptions. What other heros are there for a retard like me?
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>>541625943
just use parzelion's build
otherwise play infernus or warden or something
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>enemy team is very obviously going mid
>need to stop them or we lose
>three motherfuckers don't drop the jungle camps they're fighting to go mid
>enemy team gets mid
>we lose
every day I hate the jungle more and more
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>>541625856
report them trough the in game report button. when shit like this happens I go the extra mile and also report it trough steam's report system and I also post it on the daedlock forums. with some luck they will get banned (again)
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>>541626074
nothing ever fucking happens because the devs are completely afk, I did manual cheating reports on discord with streamable links back when the game first went public and they asked for them and those links literally have 1 view on them (me)

also, the average russian retard is so fucking mentally ill they literally do shit like pic related (all of these accounts are the same person and they all have game bans)
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>>541624682
you need to min-max your builds. more than one-two green is jeopardizing your damage output no matter who you're playing.
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>>541625943
As a fellow retard, I get my best results on Warden and Abrams. The former you build Mercurial on flask (CDR if you're feeling cute), Fleetfoot and M1 things to death. Add Radiant Regen for sustain off Flask, Titanic Mag and maybe Intensifying Magazine if you want to M1 even harder. Abrams you just shoulder slam into free headshots, keep building gun stuff like Weighted Shots and Point Blank/Hunter's Aura to chunk off like 30-40% HP per meatshot.
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>>541626347
damn
that russian has a sad life
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>>541626439
They all do.
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When will Valve add a hero with a fox motif to this game?
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>>541626347
Please valve please make this game not free to play. Make the retarded third worlders at least have to pay a month’s worth of their salary to make a second account
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>>541626000
Who is parzelion
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>>541626439
This guy either has legit mental fucking illness or I have found an entire botnet dedicated to shitting up EU multiplayer games. Literally every account has a game ban.
https://steamcommunity.com/search/users/#text=%40%40%40%40%40333322221111
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>>541626827
some streamer, i dont watch but his build is good
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>>541626870
After seeing the bullshit people did with TF2 I wouldn't be surprised if it was just 1 guy making a billion bots to ruin people's fun for no reason beyond spite.
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>>541625678
the funniest part about this is that he has extra regen, monster rounds, healing rite and a paige shield lmao
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>>541626882
Also what fucking build are you talking about there's like fifty of them and they all have a bunch of bullshit in it and are for "advanced players" and im clearly retarded.
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>>541627086
Should be one of the top 10, parzelion's fast fire rate haze or something along those lines
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>>541627135
Why is there so much for early game?
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>>541627281
that's just what the game automatically labels builds as, you just buy everything left to right, dipping for heal rite if you get bursted in lane, or resto shot if you can hit it consistently
i also like picking up high velocity to make hitting shots easier
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>>541627430
I'm literally braindead when it comes to jugglingf what to do with some builds in this game so thanks for the info. I swear to god I'll see a "noob build" and it's just a bunch of fucking essay length annotations that don't help at all with too many fucking options. Like how the fuck do you expect me A RETARD to follow any of this shit in an actual fucking match.
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>>541597223
is deadlock still fill with aimbot and cheater?
i want to go back in but the lobby is full of cheater and its unplayable
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>>541627973
worse than ever because valve lost all interest in the public alpha (there is a closed one for streamers now)
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>>541627973
if you're on EU, yes
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>>541627973
Ritualist has the most blatant cheaters most likely since that is probably the highest you can get with just aimbotting and no actual skill at the game. Vid related.
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>>541620078
>4VKMR
>inhouse
what does this mean
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>>541628292
always a wratihtranny
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>>541628292
I am emmisary 5 on EU and I literally get a cheater every single match, I am starting to believe some retard valve algo flagged me as suspicious and threw me into the russian gulags or some shit.

W/L is just determined by which team has the most blatant cheater. It's completely impossible for me to rank up at this point, I am just staring at a solid wall of flesh consisting entirely of thousands of slavic draft dodgers.
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am I shit if I can't win every game as mina
pic unrelated
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>>541628893
what pic?
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>>541626014
It sucks getting to mid now. BRING BACK OLD TEMPLE
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>>541628960
unrelated
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>>541628893
yes pick someone unrelated to mina to win
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>>541629229
I only want to play mina THOUGH
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Here's Yoshi's current vision for the next few months (Archon to Eternus)
Do you rike it?
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>>541626382
Do you have a build I can just use man making a build in this game sucks ass
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Hi hydration. I was looking at the new item shop rework and was wondering what items to buy. Should I buy backstabber like you backstabbed lefaa? Or should I get cultist sacrifice like how you sacrificed lomein?
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>>541629289
idk how any of this game works so idk man
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>>541629289
hero design in this game is pretty ass desu, they code like 6 abilites and then just reskin them over and over.
so many grenade abilities. so many invuls. so many daggers.
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Games today are fucking awful. I need to make the game-winning plays every game or else I just lose. Nobody else does anything, and when they do they just die instantly and do it on repeat.
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>>541629289
>Haze has a 75.9% pickrate
This is making me not want to play.
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I saw a video with a mod that makes viscous into a hot slimegirl. Where do I get that one
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>>541628893
the answer is kind of, she is a very difficult character to play despite how frustrating she is to play against but if you get good at her you have extreme carry potential, youre going to need like 300 games to get the same results you would get in 10 on wraith and you must determine if thats worth it to you
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ran into a spirit ivy main today. this hero is still busted, but all ivy players are just too stupid to really abuse it. literally takes them months of rubbing brain cells together to find the OP build
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>>541629840
there was a time where her pick rate was above 95%
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>>541629946
as long as there's still hope for me
I've played like 8 matches total on the game so far
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>vegas on team one game
>katkooten on team next
>then oracle lobby where i lose as 15-5-15
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>>541629969
Imagine complaining about a B-tier character when half of the cast is way more broken
Actual skill issue at this point
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>>541630548
you're that guy who was skewing her winrate disingenuously for months aren't you. she will be nerfed again, yoshi is a man of balance and justice. inshallah.
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>>541597223
Would sex with Lady Geist actually be a threesome since Oathkeeper is in her arm?
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>>541630643
only if she fists you
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>>541630703
And then use her 1?
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>>541630630
>>yoshi is a man of balance and justice
>buffs Kelvin for the 500th time
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>Consistently lower rank than the lobby
>But also the only person who wins their lane and has positive k/d and highest income
>still lose 5 games in a row

You truly can't carry shitters in deadlock, this game is the refined essence of a team game.
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>>541630218
oh yeah dont get discouraged then, watch someone like eido or zerggy play her if you want an idea on what you should be doing
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>>541629840
sorry babe, i like tracking people for 8 million damage a second
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lmao people actually get sad over losing streaks
getting mad over losses, even several in a row, is for children with fragile ego
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What's their endgame?
>>541631469
>people
>redditor
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>>541631469
yeah but if you're not having fun when you lose and you keep losing then why play
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>>541631596
points farm
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>>541631608
>not having fun when you lose
this is an ego issue. honestly if challenge upsets these people, they shouldn't be playing PvP games at all. they should be playing baby games like zelda.
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>>541629840
Haze is the most oppressive laner which is the only reason I occasionally pick her. Unlike mirage who has to reset his stacks to do damage, you can just keep going forever or they have to hide behind cover for like 20 seconds at a time. I feel so powerful
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>>541631850
>because it’s fun when Yoshi nigger’s matchingmaking algorithm puts you as the highest rated human on a team of troglodytes and you have to face fed rapists after laning
losses aren’t fun without a proper mmr system. Rank doesn’t mean anything, smurfs are rampant, shitters don’t get dropped to depths of pisslow (they appear in high elo games randomly). It’s actually the most unfinished part of the game
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I refuse to believe this is a real person.
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>>541632272
i got really fucking drunk one night and queued up
managed to get 2k damage on abrams
im in phantom
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>>541625678
?????
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They're called scrims, pugs or custom games
Not inhouse lmao
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>>541631850
it isn't fun to lose and you can take it in stride but imagine you have 20 dogshit stomp losses in a row
it is an ego thing to seethe at losing for more than a few minutes but still
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Are we doing any brouhahas tonight?
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>>541632483
retard
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>>541631946
most oppressive is a stretch with heroes like paradox, doorman and kelvin in the game, but she is quite aids
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>>541629969
just walk out of her kudzu? lmao
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>shit game with retards that do nothing but jungle and feed
>queue again
>shit game with retards that do nothing but jungle and feed
what is wrong with the player base? I had a mo and krill that went full gun with 0 kill participation at 20 minutes
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>>541629969
it costs one stamina point to stop standing in bad
stop standing in bad
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>>541632542
>it isn't fun to lose
A good game is fun to play regardless of victory or not.
>seethe at losing for more than a few minutes but still
"Seething" at all (the actual meaning, not the watered-down buzzword sense of the word) for even a second is a sign of a mentally unhealthy individual.
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>>541632806
>>541632661
I bought cultist, trophy, and greater expansion, you will use two stamina, ha!
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>>541632841
holy cope
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>>541632841
>good game is fun to play regardless of victor
a rigged game is not a good game
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>>541632841
in pvp games, especially team pvp games, it's very easy to have unfun games through no real fault of your own
I'd argue it's a normal human reaction to be annoyed by a teammate going 5 deaths in laning phase and losing the game off of it, but being mad about it all day probably isn't healthy
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>>541632483
a pug is when you put together a game out of unassociated randos (like /dlg/)
a scrim is when two clans play practice games against each other
an inhouse is like a pug but within a group of already associated people
a custom game is the mechanism by which these games can occur
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>>541632841
when rats wrestle and one is obviously bigger and stronger than the other, it will still let the smaller rat win 20-30% of the time, otherwise the small rat won't wrestle with it anymore
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>>541629289
Legitimately you should either include lower ranks or just include phantom+. Archon is still shitter ranks, i would know since i'm permastuck archon
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What happened to the previous thread?
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>>541629289
hate kelvin (braindead)
hate dynamo (braindead)
hate paige (the ones on my team suck ass)
hate yamato
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>>541633656
I don't answer questions.
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>>541633509
you've been wrestling with big rats?
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What the fuck are you even supposed to be doing as Sinclar in the midgame? He can't jungle, has no real crowd control to gank (bunny is not really good for catching people in most cases since it also makes them really fast). The default answer is "push walker" but this doesn't work if their team is not braindead.
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>>541621206
Lookalike character trick. O and Ο. These are TWO different characters.
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>>541629467
did they implode or something?
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So I'm gonna be assuming TGAs is when they'll finally release the actual trailer of the game? And I'm assuming each character is gonna get a trailer reminiscent of the Meet the TF2 Team trailers as seen with that leaked animation with McGinnis.
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>Sinclair holds a rabbit now
So I'm assuming he'll be getting a new model soon? I just want Grey Talon to get his new design already.
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>>541634174
This game aint comin out lil bro. I dont see them investing 3+ years into this to fix all the problems just to have sub 100k concurrent players
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>>541634174
personally I believe that I'll see it in due time while I enjoy the rest of my life doing other things than obsess over deadlock
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>>541634174
meet the team shit is pretty much guaranteed, idk about a mainstream trailer reveal though
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>>541629467
please tell me hydranation (finally) imploded lmaoooooooo
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can they actually revert the rejuv buff or just remove this shit already I despise this shit that forces wins because you can just take weakened patron guaranteed
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>>541634706
Thats the entire point of the rejuv because otherwise you have to deal with massive dangerous threats like lash or dynamo ult or doorman in general when you're trying to win the game.


The point of the objective IS that push, it's a "fucking end the game now" objective
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>Reddit gets absolutely livid if you dare call Pocket a he
Why are they like this?
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>>541634812
I hate how much this sucks for people with hearing issues. can't we get some bight ass ping when we get the audio clue. i can't hear shit. i'd complain harder but midboss gets deleted so fast that the audio clue doesn't matter half the time and you need to anticipate it. still though. still.
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>>541634706
>I want 80 minute games
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>>541634921
keep saying it.
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>>541634921
What?
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>>541635115
Arin Fairfax is a They/Them
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Met a bunch of smurfs stack in Initiate.
It's the worst experience ever.
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I love Lash so much, why yes, please allow me to Majestic Leap > 1 > 3 into death.
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>>541625819
>Does no damage outside of laning stage unless you are a god with gooball
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>>541633386
Most places would simply call it "custom game" or "lobby"
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>>541632272
no, that's just a typical vyper player.
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>>541625819
a good viscous is so hard to lane against, but Ive only played against a handful thankfully, at the very least you have to be really good to be a menace on that character
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>>541632483
Pug is a pickup group.
A bunch of randos you got together to play as a team/
Inhouse is specifically a private game hosted for and by a particular community such as 4chins
Scrims are private practice matches between established, usually pro level, teams meant to test meta and new strategies.
Custom games are minigames created using a games custom editor to create something new, like how dota started
You dumb
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>>541636198
just looked at his profile
>1.5 hours in deadlock
>not a smurf because it's years old and has other games on it
>>>>afghanistan
what is this sand nigger doing in my games
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>>541635231
>character canonically was in a heterosexual relationship
>still shoehorned into LGBT framework
what hacks
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>>541636326
Mate thats icefrog, show some respect
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>>541635468
We had a cheating vindicta 4 games in a row. Got to lane with him once and he would dive towers just to finish off lows, giving him ridiculous scorelines like 22-19.
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elevator operator woman when?
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>>541636837
>a baroness worker who stumbled upon the truth of the doorman and was granted strange abilities for amusing him with her deductions


kino potential is high
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>friend tries infernus
>picks some shit build
>buys a bunch of retarded items
>gets 0 regen
>he feeds constantly by running up and trying to heavy melee people, obviously they parry him
>didn't even buy any melee items
>does his usual whining shit where he actually sounds like he's on the verge of crying
>I finally get tired of his shit and get pretty miffed
>I tell him I don't understand his build, you never see anyone else running those items on infernus, and you keep trying to heavy melee people, you should probably stop trying to do that since it doesn't work out for you
>didn't realize until after the game that he was quiet the entire time after I gave him some criticism
>today he didn't invite me to play
I have other friends to play with so it's not that big of a deal to me, but what does annoy me is that someone could be so sensitive. God forbid I don't want you to throw our like tenth fucking game in a row
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>>541637319
you should have known he was such a baby and offered an alternative. tell him to pick abrams if he wants to heavy melee people all day and show him the melee items
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>>541637319
did you try giving advice on what to build, how to play, or what vids to watch to learn? or did u just yell at him?
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>want to go mid
>team won't go mid
>ask if we should go mid every time we're up a player or two
>"I don't think that's a good idea because [X]"
>enemy goes mid once we're down two
>they push in and we lose the game
How do I stop this, man
How do I get my team to go mid
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YOSHI I DON'T WANT TO PLAY M1 HEROES PLEASE STOP BUFFING GUNS!
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>>541637570
play haze and solo it
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>>541623317
If it is that easy to put a filter on a bad ritual spam from some autist and cull the stub why shouldn't I
It doesn't even bother me it's just bad and unfunny
You're the one taking it too seriously
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>>541637527
No he's played this game for like 600 hours, he wants to heavy melee as anyone except the melee tard heroes. I tell him it's not a good idea to try and heavy melee unless their cc'd or at the very least you're in their blind spot.
>>541637537
He asked me what to build, I told him he should get more ammo and maybe fire rate since he sucks ass and can't seem to proc afterburn. Meanwhile he instead just goes superior duration, followed by toxic bullets and does like a combined total of 700 damage with afterburn and toxic proc. The very first item in the game he bought was headshot booster. At minute 8 he only did 239 damage with it. That's what, only 8-10~ headshots? The other 3 heroes in the game that bought it did more than double that in the same timeframe.
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>>541637932
rough. yeah not a lot of hope if u give him suggestions that he obviously ignores then gets mad that he's performing badly. he doesn't rly have room to bitch then. sux
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This place sucks
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I only play cute girl characters
When are they fixing Yamato?
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>>541634174
It took valve years to release all of the meet the team videos, and those were just nine characters. Somehow i doubt we're getting one for each deadlock character
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>enemy team constantly collapses on any enemy on their side of the map
>my team actively avoids every single engagement
we were up 6v4 then their whole team shows up to avenge them making it a 4v4 but the rest of my team is splitting walkers so they just die one by one and give up mid boss. What the fuck man
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whenever I lane against veilwalker bebop i genuinly just stop playing im not dealing with that homosexual shit
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>playing a bot game
>after a while get a spectator
which one of you weirdos is spying on me wtf
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Is a requirement to play paige to waste your ult? I swear every single fucking paige uses it as some weird engage instead of its intended mid fight use
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>echo shard seven stun
>knockdown
is it as funny as it seems?
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>>541639082
Echo shard seven stun was extremely good back when you could cast it on yourself
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>>541597223
if only she was this cute in game
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>>541639069
I get Paiges that use it just as I'm about to smack somebody following a shoulder charge so they fly above my head and avoid taking my 1000 damage heavy melee
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>>541639082
You can theoretically do a support seven build where you level ult and stun. Get knockdown, some other utility actives, superior duration, superior range and echo shard, just spam stuns and ult. It's honestly probably a bit of a waste since Seven is so good at farming and dealing damage with his 3, but if you're not super high rank it should work. Just make sure you're targetting someone who doesn't have debuff remover with the stun
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>>541639005
>party of shitters waiting for our fresh install bro to get out of his match
>3 people spectating him
>snowballs into 70 spectators watching some of the worst deadlock I've ever seen
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>>541639082
It was REALLY fun to shit up inhouses with the build but the recent patch made it unplayable.

>Applying a CC to an enemy is reduced in duration when affected by other CCs in a short interval. Each previously applied CC reduces the duration by 7% up to a max of 21% over the past 7 seconds. CC is defined as the same set of debuffs that affect Reactive Barrier (stun, sleep, immobilize, tether, etc). Note that abilities that apply multiple things only count as one CC (aka Abrams shoulder charge CC on the grab and the stun, Lash ult grab and stun, etc).
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Get in the gay baby jail
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>>541639931
that's not unplayable, just very slightly less good.
seven fucking percent reduced debuff duration per recent stun is NOTHING.
this is to stop knockdown/lightning scroll shenanigans but double stun seven still works if you just want to play a worse version of seven for no reason.
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>>541640872
Slightly less good on an already shitty build means really fucking bad.
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>Haze on our team
>We win by a landsline
>Haze on the enemy team
>We get shit on
Reminds of the olden days when me and the boys on Dota 6.27 seething about Sandking because none of those knew how to fight him.
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>>541640440
https://streamable.com/oxcb33
"Nightmarish"
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>>541640963
Fury trance has made haze such unfun cancer to deal with. Why the fuck does that item exist?
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I finally understand how to play Seven.
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>>541641249
fury trance? oh no!
>disarming hex/phantom strike
anyway
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>>541633913
You know i'd almost believe this except I filtered it like 4 times
unless there are others
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>>541641329
This what I made.
/black.*w(o|ο)man.*Valve.*un(o|ο)riginality/i;
Worked every time so far.
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>>541641329
>>541641420
Why does that post make you mad? is it because he is right?
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>>541641420
What do the asterisks indicate? Checks purely on the specific word?
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>>541639781
That reminds me to watch some new herald dota games on youtube
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>>541641504
ritualposting is cringe
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>enemy gets mid
>tell team we should bunker down and stay toward base
>someone pokes and gets caught
>two teammates immediately chase him and die
I swear when I ask the team to do something they do the opposite out of spite
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>>541641278
Featuring one of my finest moments.

>>541641594
Every time I do regex, I basically have to learn it all over again. But if I recall correctly, it's checks for those words in a string no matter how far apart they are.
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>>541641504
right =/= bad ritual
bleating like a third worlder doesn't change reality
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Yoshi here
Due to many people referring to Bebop as Blitzcrank we are redesigning this hero
He will be called The Grand Wizard and he will ride a horse. The grab will be replaced with a noose throw.
This also makes more sense for the time period the game takes place in.
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>>541598246
Happened to me yesterday after I ragequit
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Demons are niggies with black pipo, Abrams is black
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>>541642452
Abrams is like a white South African.
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>>541642452
Abrams is maui except his book gave him the blue skin
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>teammate scrawling all over the minimap because he's upset that we didn't go in and die with him into a stupid fight
always makes me smile.
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>>541633913
Holy shit this is so pathetic. Imagine being this dedicated to a dumbshit ritualpost kek, that anon definitely has some kind of a mental illness
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>>541605306
Firerate cucks your mark because you shoot faster than you stack, you got to run ammo with it but then you run out of slots
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remove calico
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>>541633656
Seven ate it
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>it's a paige complaining about his team episode
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>>541641594
.* is any text or symbol(.) with 0 or more characters of length(*)
basically any string content in-between other words
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>>541642452
Wrong. I only fuck white men, which means Abrams is white.
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I'm a newfag
I like playing gun characters like Overwatch's McCree
What characters should I play in this?
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>>541644390
Mirage maybe
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>>541644390
He's called Cassidy now CHUD
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>>541644390
His name is Black Lives Matter Boulevard
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>>541634953
>for people with hearing issues
you mean the whole team has them?
you mean no one noticed half the enemy team just evaporating somewhere?
if you hear the audio cue it's too late anyways
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>>541639069

I play a lot of Paige and I don't understand the way most people use her ult. It's such a powerful teamfight spell and most Paige players randomly chuck it at shit.

Granted, most Paige players are lobotomites. The trend I'm seeing now is Paiges going knockdown every game solely so they can combo it into their 3.
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>>541644390
here's your cowgirl
https://deadlock.wiki/Holliday
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I will only play 1 hero
They will balance the game around me
You can't stop me
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>>541644812
knockdown is the best item in the game
i love fucking with people randomly throwing it out in lane for no reason
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>>541644094
New niggas just lie for no reason man
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>>541644961

>dumbass rushes knockdown because you're the one flying hero on your team
>buy debuff remover/counterspell
>watch the hamster wheel in their head fall apart when you purge that shit
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>>541645321
>because you're the one flying hero on your team
flying how?
any ult that gets air-time is worth buying knockdown for
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>>541645321
still 5 other ppl to kd also it wont always be up
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>ppl
fgt
rtd
ngr
jw
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>>541645449
does knockdown even pop in time if lash is already DING DING DINGing above you?
at least it prevents the follow up slam i guess
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>>541642902
Dialogue with Grey Talon implies he is an Ixian
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>>541645857
Go back little chuddie
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Why are Calico players all gay niggers? Why is she such a shit character to play against even when I win
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>>541645865
you can prevent the slam and throw, picked up allies will just fall down where they were during the animation
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Mina's objective shredding was a bit overblown. It was basically equivalent to an M1 carry shooting it e.g. Infernus, Wraith etc.
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>>541646439
It was absolutely stupid on midboss buddy
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>>541646056
sck m dck ngrmnk
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>>541600362
i went on a 16 one last week went from orange 4 to green 3. but then again im brazilian and have to deal with sub human spanish speakers, even more terrifying i heard what sounded like an indian or a pakistani once and that made me shudder
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>>541646524
Because of the spirit burn procs. That was fixed. She still deals the same damage to Midboss minus the spirit burn procs
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>>541646439
a 30k mina can do the dps of a 60k wraith, that's the problem dumbass.
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>>541646564
>i heard what sounded like an indian or a pakistani once
how do you get matched with subhumans in the middle of a different continent?
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>>541646679
im asian and get sent to NA lobbies occasionally
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>>541646762
my condolences
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Which is the superior "I lost 2nd wave trade badly and now I have to buy a healing item" item, restorative shot or healing rite?
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>>541646832
Healing rite probably
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>>541646679
the most likely answer is they were invited by someone else on the team and met them through a discord or a different game, the horror version is they immigrated to some place like argentina to destabilize that place again, or you know the queue just sucks ass at 3 to 6 am. but i really i swear to God the cadence and pronunciation on the "fak you bastard bitch you are not fight" i heard was uncanny
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>dodge
>get heavy melee'd
why is this a thing if i parried it would probably have missed
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>>541646832
>restorative shot
shit item unless they make it a part of a recipe, might aswell save souls and just buy bullet lifesteal
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>>541646832
extra regen is the best lane sustain item and it's not even close.
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>>541646832
If you have a melee ability melee lifesteal can be pretty good. Otherwise I'd have to agree with the other guy: extra regen is the overall best just due to reliability
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how mad do you think they were when this happened? we were losing all game and they just got rejuv but nobody was cleaning the lanes.
literally my last light melee before the infernus stun went off, the slap of the century.
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Having paige as your lane partner = loss
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>>541646063
Lets see
>Bombs that are pretty cool
>Big range melee slash with free dash attached
>Movement tool that lasts forever and makes you invisible on minimap
>Untargetable with speed boost that lasts 5 seconds and explodes twice
This shit is busted
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>>541647358
>wraith is is in jungle the whole time this shit is going down
useless fucking nigger
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>>541647570
I cannot stand those types of "people" who compulsively jungle
By far the worst part of deadlock is getting one of them on your team
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>>541647192
Really? +3 hp/s doesn't feel like much at all. I guess it depends on the hero. I only play Mina, Vindicta, McGinnis, and Geist.
I usually just pop the rite and either either play corners, or just go box hunting.
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>>541647570
she was ditching us all game to slowly break their base, so we were losing a ton of fights because of her but she was the one that dropped patron to begin with so it's hard to say who deserves the credit.
the fucking abrams was playing the default build or some horrid spirit abrams build from public builds, just noticed he was trying to get urn at the end too.
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>>541647779
>buying any lane sustain item on mina
oh shit nigger what are you doing
2 raked creeps and the 3 t1 camp at 2 mins is all you need even with the nerfed scaling
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>mina hates canadians
based
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>>541648034
I disagree. Not always but often I'm forced to get healing rite. She has so little hp. Rake sustain often was not enough pre-nerf for me, nevermind now.
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>>541647779
+3 HP/s is like 180 health per minute
rite still has less healing per minute (base 200) but regen doesn't forces you to sit back and be useless for 20 secs, you can be as aggressive as you want
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>>541628657
You're pretty close. They basically implemented a "behavior score system" that is mostly based off of reports from users, commends and data they gather from your gameplay (afk, tabbed out, etc...).

So basically it's the same shit as CS2, cheaters / griefers can queue together, spam report you, and every match you get will be griefers and cheaters.

I've tested it like 10 times with new account, first 1-2 matches are always great then it's only cheaters from shitholes like ukraine, russia, turkey. As soon as you get matches like this your account is basically dead and the game will be unplayable.

Nothing you can do, Valve encourages this behavior and I doubt it will ever change. CS has been completely dead to me ever since they added these automatic cooldowns (not that it was playable with the average player cheating).
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I wish we have an item equivalent to Wand, no Healing Rite doesnt count.
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>>541644390
There's no-one with a gun that feels similar since fire rate is the main scaling mechanism for gun damage.
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Why the fuck did they remove walker teleports?
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>>541648315
Retard bro.... https://deadlock.coach/en/items/restorative-locket
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>>541648315
retard
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>>541648401
>>541648387
Too expensive, needs to be an 800 price range item to be like a Wand.
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Anyone else too lazy to deliver the urn?
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>>541648479
Then everyone would be forced to buy it and everyone would have 400 more hp all the time. No thanks
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>>541647192
It heals the most on the scoreboard but its shit tempo. If you lose a trade sometimes its better to get the burst heal so you can get back to laning instead of tower hugging with 3hps
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>>541648743
well yeah if you are 100 hp you should buy rite but ideally you buy extra regen before you drop to that critical level
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>>541648521
My team would rather brool over urn than push the walkers
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>>541648521
You would think someone would be interested in collecting souls.
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>>541648856
>>541648829
Wait a minute I'm being used as bait aren't I?
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This is why I love initiate game.
Even retarded build like this can work.
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>>541648990
This used to be meta if you can believe it
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>>541648521
I'd think about it more often if patron didn't scream at me about it.
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>>541649028
How is perma invi & double sleeping a meta?
Wtf?
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>>541618265
it's only overpowered on Haze, Infernus and Wraith. Maybe Mina too. Gun is only good on gun-only heroes. Rest can suck a dick.
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>>541649162
>Gun Mina
Is this a thing? She has a little bb gun.
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If someone would be willing to invite an european I'll leave this here, https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198039410078/
Pic rel is giving me conniptions
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>>541649338
Pick gun items that boost spirit damage. Not rocket science.
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>>541649505
Why on earth is the playtest ""invite only"" if there's plenty of people giving away invites to total strangers?
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>>541649697
it's enough of a stopgap for 90% of retards to ignore the game even if it's essentially free to download
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>Victor 3 has Spirit Resilience self-damage hotfixed in
They really don't know what to do with this guy
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>>541649786
Okay wait you can't blame those 90% of people not wanting to e-beg for an invite for a game that, from the outside, looks pretty bad
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>>541649810
>They really don't know what to do with this game
Ftfy
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>>541650179
>you can't blame those 90% of people
no one's blaming them (for being retarded), the point here is to keep them out
it IS a test
there's no rewards or any kind of progression system yet, those 90% will play 2 games, get no dopamine from lootbox unlocks, and leave
if you let people in normally they'll simply inflate statistics like this and fuck over the already silly rank distribution with literally dead player accounts
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do you think this game will get a techies/teemo/APshaco aka a mine laying asshole? mcginnis turrets don't last long enough for funny shenanagins
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>>541650710
I hope not.
I remembered the shitshow that was techies on release.
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Barrage should have charges
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>>541650785
imagine lining one of the long stairs to midboss with mines and chasing someone down there
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I'd take it up the ass if it was Doorman.
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>>541650868
now imagine trying to steal midboss and be deleted by simply going down the stairs
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I'd take it up the ass if it was Yamato.
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>>541650710
>a mine laying asshole
wouldn't mines simply get countered by movement?
Calico's turrets already got cut, so I doubt they'll even try to have any more hidden sources of damage on the map
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>>541651161
they'd be invisible and you'd have to touch the ground some time.
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ok that one Mirage buff is kinda crazy, he feels really fucking strong
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>>541650710
Trapper could set up trip mines of sorts. not sure how likely he is to make the final cut of the game though
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>>541651712
it's nice to feel strong as Mirage again and not just be that one split push guy
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>>541651895
I feel like he'll probably get nerfed, maybe they keep the CDR on Djinn mark but just tweak his numbers to compensate for being able to pop high stacks so frequently now
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>>541651894
Arachnophobes hate him, he will singlehandedly ruin this game
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>>541651161
>>541651393
I think the easy solution would be to put traps in boxes
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>>541651894
i dont know what his abilities are like but i will play him for his voice alone
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Is there any out of game place you can see public builds? Tracklock and mobalytics is just a few featured builds

>>541651712
Its always the one line changes that hit the hardest
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>>541652198
>stack all bombs on one box
>enemy team's economy tanks as they start ignoring breakables
devilish
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>>541652323

Mining the sinners or urn would be even worse
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>>541652198
But then you'd only do non-lethal damages to enemies that are far from any combat, unless it's very big damage (50+ of life bar so they'd haveto go back to base), or it also steals souls
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>succubus hero
>has a grab attack that drains souls and boons
>optional sex minigame
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>>541651161
Spammable invisible traps that do dots + slow would be very strong, there are path and corridors that are taken all the times
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>>541652069
We need to find a phobia which filters out the most insufferable people and make a hero themed around it
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blood tribute warden is really fun
idk if it's good but it is fun
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>>541652753
that would be trypophobia
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I just pushed off a 2v6 twice after four of my teammates disconnected five minutes into the match
I would rather die standing than live kneeling
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>>541652909
so you want a living beehive as a hero?
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>>541653000
why don't they give us bots or a handicap or something
something so i can pretend like the 2v6 is winnable
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>>541653092
hell. yes.
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>>541652615
>has a grab attack that drains souls and boons
Fuck you and fuck your shit ideas
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>>541653105
you saw bots in other valve games?
they're either bordeline retarded and/or let you control them if there's no respawning
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>Already bored of the game and is playing with troll build
Maybe a few weeks more before I quit the game.
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>>541652909
>>541653092
Sounds good, he better be a summoning type hero then to enable advanced butthurt
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>Played since launch
>I never pause a single time
>Every match, there must be a fucker that pause for whatever reason
What the fuck is wrong with people?
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>>541653657
I always ask why the pause, if there's no answer within 3 seconds I unpause. Didn't wait in queue to wait after it too.
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>>541652817
Blood Tribute is good on every hero, you just need to know how to toggle it right
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>bee hero
>has a charged ability passively releasing a swarm of bees that damages enemies in a radius
>swarm acts like a barrier and goes on cooldown after enough damage
>every active charge adds to damage and max barrier
>charges can be used to send bees to a single enemy player, slowly damaging them and draining stamina
>afflicted player can't damage anything with his gun or melee other than the swarm, effectively disarming them for a while
>swarm is affected by the same resists as the player
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>>541653743
If they paused for a legitimate reason then they're probably afk.
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>>541653657
I just imagine someone on pause as that kid from "GO TO THE TOILET"
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>>541652069
They should get over it. I had a ballooning spider land on me today while I was waiting at a crosswalk today and I wasn't even phased, I just looked at up close and then tossed it.
>but it's le irrational fear!
I know. Get over it.
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>>541654601
Didnt care to state why the pause? Well I dont care for waiting then.
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>>541654662
>and then tossed it
so you didn't even consider taking it out for a date?
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Where's the town rapist character?
>Dress completely normal & casual
>Deal extra damage to female characters
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>Think Paige and Mina are insanely oppressive and need to be nerfed.
>Know that if I say this people will just say I'm bad.

I am bad but I still think the support character shouldn't have this many options to harass you.
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What are you supposed to do in these situations when you're playing a support character
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>>541655243
>thinks ''AOE spam, half map wide CC, split shot'' Paige is a support
Damn you really are bad
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>>541652217
Couldn't find a good no commentary video on him, so have this: https://youtu.be/YGlFktxcA9s
Basically:
1 - Alchemical Fire, but longer lasting and it takes a while to reach max size.
2 - Booby-trap thread you place between 2 surfaces that is invisible to the enemy and deals damage on contact. Has charges.
3 - Warden's Willpower + Scourge
Ultimate - Homing explosive spiders that apply Spirit Sap.
Obviously, this his Hero Labs state, so none of this is final.
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>>541655248
Take the L but not the blame
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I think Drifter is fun but idk which build is the best for him
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>>541655243
Love Bites is absolutely lane terrorism and justifiably hateable
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>>541655248
There is no such thing as support character in this game

>>541655673
Splitpush with magic carpet
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>>541655673
Are we going to end up with a roster of like 10 vampires at some point?
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>>541655348
before killing him they changed it so the puddle didn't deal any damage but silenced everyone in the aoe
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>>541651894
I hope that he does it for free
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>>541655348
I think this is a good summary of Trapper.
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Hero labs was a mistake
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>>541656801
so trapper is just this game's techies
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>>541657295
he can't suicide bomb though
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>>541657360
Techies haven't had a suicide ability for almost 9 years now
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are soul balls really supposed to disappear show me a hit marker but still be denied/secured?
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>>541657623
if you don't hear a pop and see soul numbers, then it's lag compensation cucking you
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I want a deadlock gf
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>>541655348
>>541656801
>more grenades spells instead of mines with status effects.
Lame
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>>541657851
Women don't play MOBAs. Lots of girls in OW and Marvel Rivals, but ~0 play Dota.
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>>541658027
I've had plenty of females (not troons) on my teams recently.
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who do i play to make the game fun
actually i feel like for almost every hero the fun parts are entirely dogshit and the optimal playstyle is the least fun one
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>>541658186
Viscous. As long as fun to you isn't pumping up your kda but instead just being fucking annoying and going where you please
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>>541658027
League was THE e-dater game prior to Valorant and introduced a lot of women to the genre.
Women don’t play Dota because it has had zero cultural relevance relative to its competitors since a Swedish guy made a song about it
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>>541629689
*goes on the zipline to make you think I'm joining the fight but then actually just watches you die from it*
nothin' personnell
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>>541656801
the rework to his traps was so fucking gay, they should keep them like they used to be
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whats the least bad splitpush hero i just wanna do 25k obj dmg per game
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>>541644812
What Paige build do you use?
The top two builds have knockdown but personally I never felt like it was that hard to hit her 3, with a built in slow and all... but I could see it helping
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>>541658587
Got good results doing that with Vyper and Ivy. Gun Doorman maybe too if you are good with the doors
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>>541658609
NTA but knockdown is fairly useful in pisslow for ruining ults in team fights because nobody else on your team is going to do that. The cooldown on it is so fast with the top rated build that you can just give out anvils like candy.
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>>541658587
Its wraith because she has both escape+ gun stimulation. You can do it with anyone with an escape tho
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>>541658337
>since a Swedish guy made a song about it
?
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>>541658921
>?
toddler detected
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>>541659040
I played dota in 2014, I literally don't know what you're talking about
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>>541658921
Cmon man, Basshunter? I’m saying that’s the only thing that reminds people Dota even exists.
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Is deadlock an ASSFAGGOTS?
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>>541659040
When deadlock remix?
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>>541659143
dog, the song came out in 2006, YOU ARE A CHILD
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>>541659143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTsaS1Tm-Ic
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>>541659279
it has to be considering how mad it makes me
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>>541659583
wait wait wait wait THIS SONG WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT DOTA?
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>>541659583
ah, yeah I heard this one
never really put 2 and 2 together since it's in some weird flavor of german
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>>541659715
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>>541659715
He's quite literally saying DotA in it.
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>>541659715
the chorus translates roughly to "we are sitting in ventrillo playing DotA"
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>>541659782
>>541659830
I know but I just assumed it was just a foreign word. Heard this song many times years ago usually in video game montages or YTP crap like that.
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I don't get how to win more on Frank
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>>541659920
>ventrillo
weird how I know more about irc than vent being a fucking zoomer
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z*omeroids gtfo this is an oldfag general
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>>541660124
Lose less?
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Game ceases to be fun when there is a kelvin present, you can be stomping him and it still won't be fun. It's probably the most obnoxious hero to play against in the game.
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>>541660260
zoomers own this general, go start a family if your wilted seed will even allow it
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btw when did they change abrams 1 from a based circular aura to new warden ult diet.
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>>541660535
you sound vaxxinated
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>>541660717
it was a long time ago
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>>541660727
I'm autistic
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>>541660727
anon you dont understand i really wanted to go to malta. i know my blood has satans semen in it but i had a really nice time in malta
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>>541660753
change it back.
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>>541606132
She could do with a better hairstyle and a more lively/feral style/personality. Like give her flowing hair, claws on the robo arm and a smile with fangs or some shit. "Stoic black woman" is an absolutely shit gay tumblr archetype and sucks every time, but she's not actually ugly, she's slim with barbie facial proportions. And they should make the glasses do the anime shine thing depending on angle instead of just being always white.
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>>541661196
She’s meant to be bitchy and haughty like a cat
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Victor is so incredibly satisfying to play when you're actually allowed to side-lane, but holy shit every fucking match turns into a 24/7 12-man-brawl from minute 8 until minute 25 where it's over...
Can I have ONE MATCH where I'm allowed to actually farm for more than 5 minutes total?
Quit fucking 11 man rotating to my exact location every fucking 30 fucking seconds!
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>>541661303
that sounds like most femoids
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>>541661303
you know I'd be behind a niggercat character if it was a big lovecraft reference, but as it stands she's just repulsive
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>>541661303
Yeah well nobody actually likes that shit, and geist and mina are already gigabitches who can actually pull it off. Calico is just a regular bitch which makes it seem real and unlikeable.
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>Rank up to seeker
>The game immediately goes back to playing with 11 retards again
At least I can just do whatever and still win easily without efforts. So there's that I guess.
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>>541661196
i think the biggest problems are really just her hairstyle and outfit
her outfit is just ridiculous, proportions are super off, makes her look dumb, gaudy and very ugly, her glasses are also a bit stupid but you can make them work, maybe, probably
hairstyle is self-explanatory, horrible bald head with a shitty sphere bun, lools ugly as shit
and well her kit is also dogshit but that's besides the point
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>>541661674
What's wrong with her kit?
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>>541661674
>horrible bald head with a shitty sphere bun
something tells me she was supposed to be an asian
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>>541661842
Her design since she was Nano in Neon Prime has been a ebony goddess, there's no way she was meant to be Asian
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>>541661950
>a ebony goddess
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Parasexo
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>>541661674
also it really annoys me that she's called calico but is actually themed as a purple sphynx cat instead of... well, a calico cat
it does fit her personality better i guess
>>541661771
ever since she was released from hero labs, she only had a single viable build with essentially no variation to it ever
there's only a single way to play her, and it gets really boring very fast because it's not even that fun
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>>541661582
Geist has the maturity and vibe that shows that she can carry herself, her bitchiness is backed by experience.
Mina is a bratty little cunt.

They’re essentially old money and new money, then you have Wraith who’s crime money. And that leaves Calico to be uh, um, uhh…
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>>541662147
Correct
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>>541661303
I think they absolutely knocked it out the park with her. Her fit is great and her character comes through super strong.
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>>541662196
warcrime money?
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Lash with no speed items running around like he’s on ice is the funniest shit in the world
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>>541661842
She's clearly based on unapologetic hot black art weirdos like Janelle Monae.
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>>541662147
POV: you and redesigned calico are going to mid lane
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>>541607283
Why are you obsessed with Germans?
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>>541662196
wraith is surprisingly pretty chill, she has a fun personality when you actually pay attention to it, i used to think she's lame and retarded but she's okay really
calico is what my shitty first impression of wraith was
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stop it with the niggerposting
you are being disgusting
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>>541662419
They should give her a short cut like Janelle instead of the bun desu
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>>541662657
Flapper calico NOOOOOWWW
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>>541662612
i will discuss the characters of the bideogame
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Give Wraith a gambling mechanic to reflect her character while not being ridiculous or bullshit
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>>541662443
Goddamn you just KNOW that she's a bedwench
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>>541662871
>a gambling mechanic to reflect her character
there's no gambling if you cheat
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>>541662871
Wraith is the house she's never the one actually gambling
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>>541662871
New tier 3 passive instead of the cooldown reduction:
>Stacked deck: every 4th card now deals double damage and stuns for .5 seconds
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deadlock gf that's a bratty vampire
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>>541662612
>My name is Paradox. I work for Paradox.
I know it's Haze in the picture but Paradox literally fits the meme
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>>541663076
Multiple characters imply she’s absolutely a gambler herself
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>>541663292
She isn't actually gambling because she's cheating
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>>541663163
No it doesn't
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Which characters icefraud masturbates to?
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>>541663335
Cheating is gambling because you can get caught
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>wraith genkidama build where you throw 20 cards into the air and float them there until you can nuke a hapless bystander never became viable
Feels bad man
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>>541663543
I suppose
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when's the inhouse
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Does she ever take her hands out of her pockets?
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>>541663658
When the yankies wake up
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I enjoy playing Kelvin after the buffs.
Nerf his gun even more but make the beam stronger, please.
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>>541644390
Gun doorman, he has a slow as fuck firing revolver, a grenade type skill that's bad with gun build, motherfucking portals, a knockback into stun and an ultimate which sends the enemy into another dimension.
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>>541664259
beam should be THE kevin skill, there is absolutely no reason it should feel like youre pissing on the enemy
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this is infuriating to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcZfnAkvmLc
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>>541664373
you mean underground right?
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>>541647779
Extra regen is at a midpoint between healing rite (heal outside of combat) and resto shot/mystic regen/melee lifesteal (heal in combat), extra regen allows you to always heal which is both useful when applying pressure and when needing to recover/roam. It also can't be prevented or punished, it's pretty damn good.
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>>541664259
beam should honestly be his m1
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>>541664479
even the thumbnail is just straight up wrong, incredible
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>>541664259
He shouldn't have been buffed at all, icefrog thinking taking a single bullet from his magazine warranted an even more powerful spirit build when he was already incredibly strong is some of the most retarded shit ive seen in awhile.
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>>541664446
>beam should be THE kevin skill
It deals okayish damage with escalating exposure and more spirit scaling but still not enough. I liked when you could melt gun carries with proper beam build, bring it back.

>>541664961
Fuck you, nigger.
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>>541665053
>my incredibly easy to use retard proof skill should not only counter gun carries but actively kill them while they can't do anything
no, fuck you nigger
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>>541656801
Hope this hero never makes it into the game
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>>541665160
*domes you*
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>>541665195
He'll probably get the Calico treatment, maybe a lesser form of it. The tripwires could probably be balanced by making them visible to the enemy right after placement. Maybe have them make a sound on creation, and give a short immunity to the person hit for triggering them again.
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>Puddle Punching a lone retreating hero three times in a row while my team catches up to kill him
Must be really fucking annoying. Like being forced into a Three Stooges Skit
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>>541651894
Paige and trapper share a lot of abilities. It could be that valve just trooned him out
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>>541662871
replace her fire rate buff with a random suite of buffs and debuffs applied to both allies and enemies, landing cards/doing sinners/killing the highest netwoth enemy/etc gives her stacks that stack the odds in her favour for these buffs
she can hold the card button to charge up multiple cards into a house of cards with better scalling and aoe damage but it can also just fall apart
give her telekinesis charges and more control, baseline it still works the same on a single enemy, using all charges but she can use it also use it on objects or allies to throw them for less charges
instead of teleporting she can lift and throw herself so replace that with a new ability, maybe just a passive that tracks and builds gambler stacks for her other abilities.
having a lot of stacks could give her the usual fire rate/ on-hit gun buffs so you can choose between carry wraith where you build stacks and keep them, and mage wraith where you build stacks and use them to empower your spells
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How good is Pocket in the late game?
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>>541658186
Abrams melee/gun build and go bash some heads into the pavement. Don't go spirit/tank, that one is more sleep inducing than echo shard Haze
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>>541665557
Could do a Valorant thing where it makes a noise when you're near it, but if you're in a rush it's easy to miss
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>>541665965
How late? He falls off as do all spirit
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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Seven supports trans rights because he admires people who self improve.
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>>541665557
Traps should always be remote detonated rather than triggered, it's just lame to die with zero player involvement. Trapper should just be demoman.
>Nade launcher weapon
>Explosive jump
>Stickies
>Some other skill with utility
>A big bomb with a long and loud fuse, see the keg from pirates vikings and knights
>Everything deals self damage
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>>541666179
How do you make the nade launcher weapon actually able to last hit orbs?
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>>541666032
Early late. Basically how does he scale compared to Mina?
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>>541666251
Just don't do it, like how some weapons can't headshot.
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>>541662180
SAUCE NAO
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>>541666281
Depends on specific build but in general his gun is better because its not a burst fire so he will do better
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>>541666251
If he last hits with a nade just auto collect the orb.
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>>541666385
It's AI.
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>>541662180
fuck me I'll draw paradox myself then
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>>541666251
Nades just automatically secure the hit if it kills but to compensate you have to directly hit already floating souls with the pill which is more difficult than with a regular gun. Denying is already so irrelevant that it's basically impossible to do to someone paying attention, so I don't think this would break laning. Worst case scenario just test if it works and if it doesn't you give the nade launcher an underslung shotgun.
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>>541597396
I played against you last night and all you did was farm and hit objectived you never participated in any fights and finished with like 2 kp. Ivytroons are retarded.
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I don't get it, why is the last thread purged?
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game has too many sub minute cd ults that just guarantee a kill on you if they land
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>>541665557
I think every unreleased lab hero is now dead. Something has definitely changed in the dev process, just look at the model quality of the newcomers.
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>>541639180
She kinda is tho
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>>541667019
She is though
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>>541666998
spider bros...
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>>541666998
There is no reason to believe that. If they kept Calico by almost completely reworking her, they'll keep Wrecker and others.
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>>541666998
Hotpoo was flushed from the dev team
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>>541666661
Why would I get involved in fights that aren't even over objectives?
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>>541667183
Calico had a decent model, wrecker is a megaalpha rattletrap placeholder with a horrible kit, same with trapper. Raven has a decent model and concept though and slorks concept is okay.
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>>541667250
Ideally so your match history isn't a giant red blob
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>>541667552
Yeah, and? I don't think Valve are scared of making a model. Maybe it's cope on my part because I like the idea behind Wrecker, but I don't think they would just scrap the whole idea of the hero because the initial implementation was rough.
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>>541667552
>Raven has a decent model and concept though
since Mina has umbrella floating, Raven is kill
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>>541667701
>Brooooowl more when behind that will fix everything
doubtful
If my team takes 5v4s and still loses when I'm drawing 2 and getting free farm/objective pressure then the game is already over
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>>541667970
Possibly but you could just not give him an umbrella and give him a cane instead. I like the idea of a backstab spy hero with medusa ulti. He should be made less 60's spytech though, at least try and fit characters to the era before they characters start wearing LED strips, even if billy is already out of place
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>POV: what your teammates are doing while you're suffering getting 1v5'd
https://litter.catbox.moe/si6hxg.webm
how do i get good at vindicta?
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>>541667886
Wrecker always had a horrible kit and there's no model to salvage, so the """hero""" is gone. Calico was salvaged even though the kit was awful. At best you'll get a hero vaguely based on the wrecker demon concept with a different model, name and skillset.
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I will abandon you alone in lane if you are bad.
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>>541667971
There's a reason why you started eating shit. Your retarded splitpush troon strat stops working the higher you go.
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>>541668284
why is vindicta a horse
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>>541668284
something tells me this horse is retarded
time to put her down
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>>541668284
>that mod
first become my gf then I'll show you the horrors of eternus
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>>541668381
Fucking over another lane that is probably doing well because you're retarded to own your lane partner. Brave.
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>>541668383
There is splitpushers all the way to the top
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>>541668383
? Split pushing exists at every rank and arguably gets better as you climb because people start to get the awareness to not randomly start fighting until they see multiple people go to stop the split pusher
If anything it's worse at low ranks because your team is more likely to just get caught and die and then the entire team collapses on you/does mid boss etc.
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>>541667183
She was in the same hero labs as Raven, Wrecker etc, but got released and theres no plans for the release of any other. Wrecker probably has a chance evidenced to the Doorman's voicelines with him.
>>541667231
Source?
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How do any of you assfaggots actually enjoy gun heroes or gun-meta patches?
Is holding left click really fun for you?
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>4/6 heroes on enemy team counter mine
>rest of the team can't do anything
game needs a draft so that i stop getting matches that are just unplayable
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>>541667250
Thanks for 5vs6 game McGinnis, that soul count will look good on your losing screen
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>>541668964
it is a shooter. if you dont find shooting fun than dont play a shooter.
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if you can't aim for shit, don't take gun chars
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>>541668964
Yes because my character's abilities are not interesting (Mirage)
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>>541668696
>>541668886
If you say so
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Do you guys think the game is way too farm-focused right now? Feels like it doesn't matter if you win lane hard the opponent can just rush Cultist and farm jungle for 20 minutes and be on the same level or even ahead of you
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>win twice in a row with kevin
>doesnt get promoted
>pocket quits next game
>state mandated loss but aight
>win 2 in a row with kevin
>still doesnt get promoted
i hate this faggot shit so much i lost 6god damn tiers because of a 16 game loss streak but i cant go up a single one on a 4-1 score
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>when you're on Victor and the enemy team lets you sidelane from minute 8 to minute 25 and your team leaves you all the sinners
OH FUCK YEAH, THAT'S THE STUFF!
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>>541669078
Fight around an objective instead of in the cleared section of the jungle and maybe I'll show up.
I'm not walking across the entire map and losing 3 waves + a chance to damage Walker for nothing but (potential) kills.

>>541669187
Every moba is farm focused because farm is guaranteed. There's no way to change that unless you're going to give some form of elastic or passive income.
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I forgot I had a on phone allergist appointment so I had to talk to him with my phone in one hand, the other doign laning with keyboard only
I was walking around as calico not shooting or aiming just gloom bombing vaguely in their direction off cooldown
We won the game and I was only down by like 2k souls by end of laning stage, not bad
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>>541669187
>and farm jungle for 20 minutes
jungle of a competent team is usually gone under 5 minutes from spawning
if you have any farmers like seven, wraith, ivy etc. it's supposed to be empty by cd so you start stealing enemy camps
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>>541668964
Yes
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>>541669353
Oh Im sorry but the enemy doesnt respect your list of ideal fighting conditions. What now?
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>>541669271
It's weird because I keep getting placed in higher and higher ranked lobbies, but my actual rank hasn't moved in days despite positive winrate across them. There's like a 6 rank deficit between my "actual" rank and my lobbies right now. I think the system is broken
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>>541669658
The rank system is, indeed, broken.
Literally just ignore it and stop trying to rationalize the functionality of an actually, actually, broken system.
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>>541669620
Run back to an objective and defend it while the split push happens? If they're wasting their time invading the cleared out side of the map then as long as you stay alive they literally just wasted their time.

>>541669658
On the first day of the new patch I randomly got matched up into an Archon lobby for one game before shit went back to normal, it was weird.
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>splitpush troons out in full today
This is a brawling board. Conform or fuck off pisslow niggers
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>>541669187
I think early game kills are too inconsequential, they give like one creep's worth of souls so it's not that hard to be 0/2 and still winning lane if you're ping-check denying people on Nigfernus
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>>541668964
is spamming 1 fun for you? huh faggot doorman player?
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>>541669867
>THE PERFECT POST DOESN'T EXI-
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>>541669958
I enjoy pressing 1, 2, 3, and 4 as well as pressing left-click, thanks.
I one-trick Dynamo if you MUST know.
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>>541670065
why would dynamo ever have to press left click

ooooooooh wow the enemy player models are <15% closer
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>>541670065
big gyatt...
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>>541670214
I'm sorry for this post, I got my right and my left confused pls everyone does it no booli :(
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>>541667019
Pure Sex, just needs buffed teets.
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>>541670214
retarded piece of shit kill yourself
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>>541670214
>he's left handed
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Honestly I need more high quality screenshots of Geist. They don't look good when I take them
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IT'S TIME, TO FEED.
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>>541668284
Why is there a goddamn Rice Shower Vindicta mod
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>statlocker still busted on mobile

This is racism
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>>541670582
kill me yourself
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>paige buys 3 gun items
>out damages every carry in the game and doesnt even have to aim cause splitshot exists
can icefrog stop making supports have the best fucking guns please, holy fuck
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>>541671320
>bullets so slow she can't last hit in lane even with velocity mag
Best gun btw. I've never lost to a gun Paige. Anyone who plays that build is legit retarded.
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>>541671320
This but Viscous being a better spirit nuker than Geist
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>>541671608
They just buffed the velocity on it, AND buffed the velocity on express shot
She has regular bullets now + splitshot again, makes it so you dont have to aim or care
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When is mm going to take into account the characters? This is genuinely unwinnable if the enemy has the 2 braincels needed to play these crutches.
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>>541671608
A resident retard hit eternus for the first time playing gun paige

Basically your wrong and hardstuck
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>even ivy wants to fuck victor
is this a valve employee self insert?
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>>541671772
it really should based on ult potential or something
>left side
0 teamfight ults, maybe drifter
>right side
press every ult to instantly win every fight
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>>541672009
I think he's just a tall, handsome, and slightly pitiable man.
Women go crazy for that.
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>>541671772
Which side are you talking about? Im betting left all

Seems pretty balanced to me role wise

Frontliner vic/abrams
Attackspeed aids dot haze/infernus
Spirit mobile mina/pocket
Ganker lash/drifter
Utility paradox/doorman
??? Ivy/billy
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>>541672009
he's ripped
it's not that complicated
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>>541668369
>At best you'll get a hero vaguely based on the wrecker demon concept with a different model, name and skillset.
Why? Why not just put a new kit and model under the same name? There is a lot one can do with "The Butcher of Ixia".
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>>541671820
>thinking anyone cares how some random hit eternus
Youtubers doing retarded challenge builds to hit eternus too. You can play anything and win that doesn't make it good.
>>541671686
Yes and in return they nerfed the damage, even with velocity items her bullets are still projectiles with slow speed. Any type of movement lets go dodge her hits especially vertically.
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just put me in fucking Seeker already
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>>541672676
that's the game intentionally feeding you losses
won too much there buddy boy
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>>541638645
turn her into 2B
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>>541670995
All of the tracking sites haven't updated for me since Saturday. I don't know why Valve is so hesitant to allow decent API usage when fucking Dotabuff has almost never skipped a beat with match results.
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>>541670952
https://gamebanana.com/mods/610279
why not have honse
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>Get archon/emissary average game
>sweatiest tryhards i've ever seen, always someone trying to IGL
>Get oracle/phantom average game
>literal braindead retards running at me as i repeatedly kill them over and over
I don't understand this game in the slightest
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>>541669271
Playing on the weekends is almost never worth it.

>Warden spergs at his lane teammate, rage quits, lose game
>next game pocket goes afk at start of the match, match isn't scored
>next game Bebop ragequits
>next game infernus rage quits

all in a single Saturday night. I was almost archon and wanted out of emissary, too.
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>>541673358
Stat tracking sites are unironically for faggots. I want my stats private I don't want niggers stalking me, and I don't care what hero winrates are. Spreadsheet sbit is not playing the game. In game stats are good enough
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>>541673392
oracle/phantom average games are actually 2 eternus/ascendants and 4 alchemist/arcanist/ritualist retards dragging them down EVERY single time
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>>541673639
Im just trying to make a build without booting up the game, I've been using notepad instead
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>>541673639
I just want to see which players in pre-made. I had a fucking SEVEN come help out a lane we were crushing 6 minutes and they pushed as 3.
There's no fucking way a solo-queue Seven roams to gank 6 minutes from a random saying "hey we need help yellow."
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>>541672375
he's RIPped
I can't believe none of you tards called out the most obvious joke of the year
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>zerggy playing with fov cranked out so far that zooming in is still farther out than regular fov
they should just permaban anyone that has a fov config above normal values in a shadow patch
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>>541673915
WHY DOESN'T VALVE EITHER PUT THAT SETTING INGAME OR DISABLE IT???
LITERALLY DO ANYTHING
CHOOSE
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>>541672009
>LIDDERALLY made of serial killers body parts mashed to gether into a hunk
He was LAB BUILT to pound pussy and make femoids SOAKING WET. How do you not understand this?
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>>541673915
Guy is cheating and you still keep calling him goat lol
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>>541674071
pro players in shooters always cheat
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New bread doko?
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>pro shooters ALWAYS cheat
>GOOD CLICK
What else am I missing from the mantra of the skillless?
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>play melee
>get called a tard, abused daily
>most common hacks are auto parry and FOV just to fuck you over

it's hard...it's hard being so honest and decent...
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>>541673915
>Changing a single console command is too difficult ese valvo need to ban everyone else who do
You're brown and lazy
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>>541673915
yeah just ban like all the high ranked players that'll be smart.
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>>541674625
cheating is brown behavior
>>541674640
who gives a shit, they're cheating, they should be banned
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>>541674640
this but unironically. ban even the ones not cheating.
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>>541674695
Raw input is cheating. So is hz about 60 and changing to low settings for more/stable fps
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>>541674625
>browns so desperate for an advantage they spend time combing console commands, start up commands, and config files rather than playing the game
Imagine my shock.
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>>541674830
>Changing values on your computer that everyone has access to in every game is the same as changing 1 value that is only accessible in the config and not anywhere in game
Keep justifying your cheating, brown, subhuman bugman.
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>>541673915
Game looks much nicer this way
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>>541672513
If (you) are enchanted with the fantasy of that specific name/lore sure but there will be nothing actually remaining from the hero labs
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>>541674695
If it was cheating, Valve would've prevented it, made a statement on it, or patched it.
It's obvious you guys have never played a fucking Valve game before holy shit
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>>541675091
Every other valve game has had console commands to change literally every value in the config. You can't change the fov through console commands in Deadlock.
You are cheating. You are a subhuman.
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>>541675091
VAC hasn't been updated to deal with the latest shit for the past 5 years or even more, since kernel anti cheat was introduced to the public. So yeah, valve fucking SUCKS at killing cheaters and their accounts.
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it's THIS discussion again, huh?
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>>541674945
>>541675191
Not unless you're an ultrawideCHADGODWARRIORPOETKING
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>>541675314
we will keep having it until people admit they're cheating lol
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>>541675000
That's fine, his abilities sucked, except maybe for Astral Walk. I'm in it mostly for his voice lines.
https://youtu.be/R0DTJW0bMZA
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>>541674049
Do we really need shit taste women in this game? We already have Paige for the low quality ''support'' cucks.
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I must be autistic but I can't understand the point of cheating. what's the point of playing and getting gud?
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>Well nobody stops me from running red lights unless there is a cop literally at the light! Obviously they would have a cop at every light if they didn't want you to run red lights!
Congratulations, you are mentally equivalent to an Indian.
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Valve should add a witch hero with an fov changing effect to one of her CC abilities.
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>>541675567
That would be cancer but is a neat idea.
>Fish-eye or super zoomed in as a disable.
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>>541675559
They already block this command from running in tf2. The reason why deadlock doesn't is because it's a modern game that ultrawideCHADGODWARRIORPOETKINGs actually want to play.
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This is a PSA

STOP BUYING QSR ON MARK MIRAGE. ITS NOT GOOD

that is alp
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>>541675715
spirit shredder bullets thats a different sort of choice
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>>541675815
>>541675815
>>541675815
>>541675815
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>>541675742
drifter ult already does that
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>>541672015
Drifter was an initiate that didn't even realize his gun had max range.



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