Hero Babs Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-02-2025-update.84332/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>541597223
FIRST!
I want a deadlock gf(true female)
Valve should add a white evropean vampire to deadlock.
It's that easy
>>541676009No you don't. Playing games like these with women is always bound to be a disaster because they're usually terrible. If you play on your main, you'll always get stomped, and if you smurf, you'll stomp every game and at that point you may as well not play.
Us ultrawideCHADGODWARRIORPOETKINGs just can't stop winning.
>>541676023I agree and I support another jailbait vampire so we may have quality yuri.
>>541675815To continue the topic of Hero Labs heroes, Fathom, formerly Slork, is definitely coming back since all the new heroes have the "keep on slorking" line.
>>541676023Do we really need 3 vampires?I'd rather get like, a werewolf or something.
>>541676280yurifags are pathetic
I had an exceptionally awful day of wagecucking todayI have a feeling that if I play Deadlock I will legitimately kill myself>>541676023what sort of vamp would s(he) bewe got the goth gf Toreadorwe got the hobomaxxing Gangrel>>541676416silence, furry
>>541676416we don't need more furshit. we need a gnome.
>>541676113Sounds like a good opportunity to learn some real life skills like communication, prioritisation and social interactions in general. >they're usually terribleSo no different than average soloQ team, but at least won't screech at you in thick accent after any minor inconvenience.
>>541676765I prioritize playing games my girlfriend actually likes with her, like stardew valley and animal crossing and shit
>>541676673NTA but maybe a necromancer lasombra type chick would fit the bill. obviously the touhou poster just wants pedo maid shit
I'm at the barely keeping up with the pack in souls and not egregiously feeding stage. A few times a game I get a play like disabling somebody important but I still mostly feel like I'm getting carried most of the time.Whats the next step of getting good?
>>541676023>>541676280Valve should ip track every animenigger and furry and hire assassins for them>>541676709Shut the fuck up, manletfags and their reddit humor dont apply
We need separate que for girls like chess has
>>541676929>reddit humorit's a valve game
>>541676673>>541676709"but da furries" is a retarded reason to avoid wanting a werewolf when the entire game is filled with monsters.
>>541676875Does she play something you like?
>>541676528I just like seeing girls having sex, I could careless about 'ships.
>>541677059werewolf is such a token pick it's not really worth asking for. any hero with a transformation ult is gonna be a werewolf
>>541677010Thats genius, real women will still play normal queue (no mic) but at least we'll have a troon containment zone.>>541677029Its not tf2
>>541677059The real monsters in this game are humans
>>541677067we've played through nearly every single monster hunter game
>>541676071>accidentally trying to zip = death
>>541677174It'll probably happen eventually, sure, but it's kinda weird that there isn't one yet.
>>541677272Even old ones? Yeah I think she's ready for a marriage.
>>541677337Shiv was supposed to be one but thankfully he wasn't a wolf but some kind of gorilla instead
>>541677272if that's true then you should pump some babies in her, unless you're a pussy
Billy was added for parry enjoyers to torment
>>541676071Why are victor players always so based?
>>541676416We can have as many vampires in this games as possible.>>541676929Valve would die if they murked their most loyal customers.
The ultimate power move would be dropping a skeleton hero to get banned in china
>>541677847Why are all animeshits so ugly and disfigured, anime artstyle can be done well but I've never seen a good example in this general. Do only shit taste animeniggers lurk here or what>>541677752Because much like Voctor they had to go through suffering of the previous nerfs and pain builds character
What are good green items for Grey Talon?
>>541678189ring of repick
>>541678189endururingu speedu
>>541678189>he needs green as GTjust sit back at 800m and fire your AWP and FPV drones
>>541677980That shit is so fucking funny because literally no young chinese cares about it but the ancient people in their censer bureau.
>>541677980Valve have removed skeletons from item art already, its over
>>541678360Huh?
>>541678189Reactive barrier to counter the knockdown buyersRescue beam to yoink your teammates
>>541677702>seven doesn't even say thank you for getting his ass saved>seven losing while at 43k against a 27k Billy
>>541678189battle vest like everyone else this patch
>>541678647"I ALMOST HAD HIM" "GET OUT MY WAY, I HAVE CAMPS TO FARM"
I have a job interview today and last night I guess I had a stress dream because I dreamt they released crossplay with consoles and gutted movement even more.I remember there being a giant beetle hero that had an interesting passive. A small passively regenerating barrier that gave you the spellbreaker buff when it was up, so the idea was you had to peel the small barrier off before you nuked him.There was also a McGinnis reskin that made a mob of illusions so you weren't sure which one was the real one to shoot.
>>541678360What?
now that Mina has a unique alt-fire ability, what would you add to the other heroes?>holding M2 on Abrams causes him to hunch down and cover his face with the book, granting a 30% chance to negate damage but slowing his movement speed by 30%, also disabling his gun>Ivy does a high jump with her wings but it costs 1 stamina>Lash flexes his biceps for a moment to slightly boost his next attack but is locked in the animation, the buff lasts 5 seconds
When should we start inhousing fellows?
>>541678869Last night I had a stress dream that Kelvin now had Mina's abilities in addition to his own so he was hitting me with Rake inside his dome for like 800 damage and I was down 1/23.
>>541679019>Abrams20m blink to wherever you're aiming, no cooldown and instant>Mo & Krill40m blink to whatever hero you're aiming at, instant and no cooldown
>>541678869>more interesting passive than you do le spirit dmg when you m1!!Yoshi mogged by literal wagie dreams
>>541679019>ivynew M2 kicks the ivy player in the balls irl
Post hero ideas>Oil magnate who used magic to give himself dual gold/oil midas touch promptly before magic permanently cratered the value of gold/oil, participates in the ritual not to remove the midas curse but change it into soul touch
>>541679019yoshi, hire this manhe's just as bad at it as you are
>ideas guy
where is my delicious brown female occultist
>>541678647if seven goes spirit meme build he's pretty hopeless in a 1v1 without resorting to ult
>>541679568wraith is right there
inhouse when????
>>541679435I'm sorry, anon. I didn't mean to interrupt your tier list gooning sesh
>>541678151>Why are all animeshits so ugly and disfiguredanonchama, this IS the 3DCG anime artstyle and has been so for decades>anime artstyle can be done wellyes, and all paintings look the same, all statues look the same, and all books are written in the same styletasteless nigger
>>541679019>Abrams holds the book projecting a barrier that scales with his health and protects those who stand behind itboom, OVERAIDS barrier cancer added to deadlocc. No need to thank me.
>>541679307Doughboy that's just a skeletonbone puns in every 2nd voiceline are mandatory
>>541679813We already have cancer barrier with Paradox.
>>541678869>giant beetle hero>small passively regenerating barrier that gave you the spellbreaker buff when it was updamn that's pretty cool
>>541676673>what sort of vamp would s(he) be>we got the goth gf Toreador>we got the hobomaxxing Gangrelcan we get a schizo malkavian
>>541679779>touhou player berating people for tasteLMAOOOOOOO
>>541679779Animenigger has no reading comprehension, thats what watching too much soulless waifufaggotry does to your brain, SAD
>>541679882so, more furriesgotcha
>>541679989too based - even if we are missing a hero that is properly batshit insane
>>541679989yea, other archetypes are schizo malk, nosferatu...idk, detective maybe? and finally maybe a necromancer clan type.
>>541678510>>541678969My bad I should have specified ''from SOME art'', like Cheat Death or Toxic Bullets. Don't let Valve see these, we must protect mr. Skelton.
>>541679989>malkavian's schizo ramblingsby modern standards that's reddit humor
>>541680050>skelly man>furry
>>541679989Blood mage Termere vampire.Would play.
>>541679019>Lash flexes his biceps for a moment to slightly boost his next attack but is locked in the animation, the buff lasts 5 secondsBased idea.>parry>strike a pose>kill a guy>write ''?'' in all chat
>>541680237I'd rather have reddit humor (gnomes, fish malk) over more furry stuff desu
>>541680347I feel like this game could benefit from TF2 style death cams
>>541680347just the amount of butthurt it would generate alone makes it worth it
>>541680337Geist. Go play her now.
ah, fuckwe still don't have taunts in this gameno wonder I felt something was missing
>>541680576your hats bro?
>>541680460>I feel like this game could benefit from TF2 style death camsThat would be so sick. I hope they add emotes and shit, hopefully that would casualise some things. Hard to be a sweat when you can press your dedicated "flip off" button on Billy
>>541679435Unironically the new meta in ai sloppa landIdeas guys will vibe code the future
>>541680631there's a fair bit of material datamined about skins, so they are 100% coming (probably in the full release which will happen in roughly 5 years)
>>541680460We need a proximity chat too, and open post game all chat
I like colossus on Viktor idk why more people dont build it
>>541680758>(probably in the full release which will happen in roughly 5 years)Dota only just left beta
>quick goon session>posts>a fucking naked DRIFTER appearsend yourselves bara fags
>>541680446Gnomes aren't reddit humor they're horrifying fae folk that can twist your head off or curse you for 1000 years because you were rude enough to call them mister instead of sir or ate your porridge with your left hand
>>541680186Cheat Death still has a skull on it.
>>541680717>saar we the future
>>541680852I agree, and they are more or less a unique rep for deadlock. you'll still get people screeching about reddit though.
>>541680824>Drifter ganked Anon in the r34 jungleabsurdly based
>>541679779YWNBAW
>>541680576Lash should have 80 different taunt animations and voice lines
>>541680446Fish folk could work if thats a straight up ugly Innsmouth fishman and thats it.>>541680852Reality:>haha guys did I hear A ROCK AND STONE
>>541677980>>541678308>>541678510>>541678969>>541680186>>541680870It's about qauntity and type. A jawless skull doesn't seem to be an issue but depictions of skeletons (like the Grim Reaper) is a big no no. Too many skulls is also bad. So that might be why they reduced it
>add taunts and death cams>pros start complaining about "tilt" mechanicsyou know it's coming
we definitely need kill count items so I can count how many ivy players I kill
>>541679670I literally asked in this very thread what time you want it to be and you didn't respond!!!!!1
>>541680965kekd
How is this for a Grey Talon build?
>>541681064>professional at a game that's not even out yet>professional in a super complex game where your entire skillset can get invalided by a single number adjustment (see removal of infinite walljump abuse)shiggy diggy
>>541680576>no taunts>no hats>no unusuals>no "dominated" and "revenge" voice lines
>>541681169infernus players killedcalico players killedhaze players killed
>>541681064They put a 2 minute cooldown on Dota 2 taunts because of this shit man
>>541681064They better add tips and sprays too. What other salt inducing mechanics are there?
>>541681064>suicide dive walker to finish someone off>hit my "flex" taunt as the entire enemy team decend upon me
>>541681489Lash grindset
>>541679435Yoshi literally is an idea guy.
>>541681437Having 3 pauses per player per game instead of 3 per team per game
>>541681418Fuck unusuals, its a bait for botnetting subhumans
>>541681429wow that's dogshit
>>541681179how about now tardGOD
>>541681536Yoshi is Icefroghe's a bit more than an 'ideas guy'
>>541680050>skeleton man>spawns skull lasers around him that target enemies >warp stone but an ability>bones that damage you if you move through them, but not if you stand still>mass gravity warp that deals extra damage if there's a ceilingsounds great put him in icefrog
SK should still be a skeleton.Victor should have been a Skeleton.Prove me wrong.ProTip: you can't.
>>541681536He was literally the main map developer and programmer for the Dota WC3 mod after he managed to get control of the map off of that one cunt
>>541681429There are still tips and all chat wheels. Also taunt spam was annoying af and taunts which change the direction you're facing should lock the hero in one spot anyway.
>>541681673That just proves my point even more.Icefraud is the penultimate idea guy.
>>541681834then who's the ultimate idea guy?
>>541681990(You)
Okay post taunt ideasGeist doing the ojou-sama laugh
>"MONSTER KILL">*PAUSE TICKDOWN*>*INVOKER LAUGH X3*>*UNPAUSE TICKDOWN*>"UNSTOPPABLE"LolBabs have no idea what they are missing.
>>541681712Frankenstein's monster is cooler.
>>541682083Abrams better get an ''Oldest trick in the book'' chatwheel
>>541682083bebop doing an air wank and calling you a wanker and then shooting a laster out of the air wank that does 2k dps if you get near him
>>541681990me...and I do it for free
>>541681712>SK should still be a skeleton....when his ult is on cooldown after a revive...
>>541681990I am. My ideas are superior and have even got added to the game.
>>541682083Billy looking up and telling (You) to uninstall the game
>>541682083Infernus should get TF2 Heavy's finger gun taunt
>>541682153>why am I surrounded by such peons
>>541682083someone telling Vindicta to "hang in there" after a kill
>>541682083geist stomping on my penis and laughing about how pathetic i am
>>541682358you're in charge of the game yoshi it doesn't count
>>541682083Mina spitting.
>>541682083Mina acting like a mesugaki
There will never be a faster match.
>>541681318I dont play him but I imagine you dont actually want the flat spirit items because he gets free spirit. Boundless is fine super late game for the %modifier
>>541682737now post lobby rank>inb4 seeker 1
>>541682083I wish Holliday would have a different 3 because a gun spinning taunt would fit her much better if she had a more gun slinger like ability. A build in headshot booster is Zzzzzzzzzzz
>>541682879It's seeker 1
>>541682890people have been asking for that for a year, it's probably not happening. if we're still getting a new gunslinger hero then they would likely have it
>>541682890they better add a taunt she she goes full Revolver Ocelot
>>541682957that's personal skill ratingyou can enable match skill rating in options
>>541681609No need to be rude fella damnInhouse code7ZFM1
>>541682890holiday is just such a collossal failure of a gunslinger hero; jump pads are cool I geuss.
>>541682737>Bebop at 3kwas he AFK the entire game or something?
>>541683132well in that case it's initiate *>>541683217he quit after we took 2 walkers really early on
>>541683217i imagine he left
IT'S TIME TO BE USELESS.
is uninstalling the play here
>>541682317That would be great too. Would give a clear visual indicator on his damage buff being active too now that it's a thing.
>>541683483play more Doorman
>>541683483Take a 3-4 days break and play a new hero afterwards.
what is to be done about the win lane > win game hypercarry menace, anons? I have a gut feeling that the problem is in great part exarcerbated by the bonus investment from gun/spirit/survival items and how long it takes to kill people with more boons than you (since with how small the map is, it makes it easy to rotate to save your teammate as they retreat unless they really overextended), but i'm not sure if making kills faster and items do less would be good for the game overall (since the team that is ahead would also benefit from that). I also feel having important objectives like urn and sinners sacrifice be so exposed makes it difficult to respond to enemy attempts to take them, and the juiciest jungle creeps being more near base (as well as kind of weak, overalll) makes it way too easy for m1 carries with innate damage steroids to take them without any risk. Dota's best camps tend to be in dangerous spots for a reason. Maybe they should bring in jungle stacks? Make cutting the lane easier?
>>541683597his flesh could also slowly grow back as the ult comes online.
>>541683736That would be very cool, actually.
>>541682870He gets five spirit per lasthit on his ultimate dude, it's fucking nothing
marge i'm gonna play my first game of drifter when i get home what build do i use to rape
>gun is so broken this patch the best ivy build is stil gun despite losing a third of its powerjej
will the 3i atlas aliens let us play deadlock after they arrive?
>>541683640give people more time to figure out the game and not let the carry freefarmmore heroes like Drifter to punish greedy T3 farming
>>541683908"local vampire bullies children" is a good one
>>541679151kek
Do you grab cdr and expansion as gun ivy?
>Buff OBJ health>Slow Wave advancement>Put high Soul Camps in dangerous spots>Wards/camp stacking>Allow wave manipulation such as pulling and blocking>Allow friendly fire from m1 on low hp allies to deny as well as friendly fire on own creeps for wave managementWhat else?
>>541684378is this a list of shit to not put in the game?
>>541684378I could see wards being cool, but they wont see pub use unless they are free.They are free in dota and still some people wont buy them.
>>541684378>>Allow friendly fire from m1 on low hp allies to deny as well as friendly fire on own creeps for wave managementimagine having your kill bodyblocked by your own creepsare you fucking retarded?
>>541684378some of those are good ideas but collision with creeps and friendly fire sound absolutely retarded
>>541684507>Pubs won't buy themThat's fine, they are for high ranks or LANs not the plebs.>>541684534overpen for this specific instance. it would also only apply when the creep hp is way less than half.
>>541684378
3/12 for inhouse so far7ZFM17ZFM17ZFM1
>>541684378None of those are good ideas, dotashitter.
>>541684724>That's fine, they are for high ranks or LANs not the plebs.Nah it just means that even though you will buy them, more people on the other team will than on yours and you have to play at a disadvantage.Buying wards is perceived as a support job, even in a game without hard supports.
>>541684686fair it likely would not work well in deadlocc but it is worth a try for a patch.>>541685006Just buy them yourself then?>Buying wards is perceived as a support jobThey can stay alchemist while you catch people alone or doing objectives. Hell it could be like LoL and just be an 800 soul item you buy once and put vision around the map. Though I'd prefer it to just be a consumable like dota.
Getting parried should disable your ability to melee for 3 minutes so my retarded teammates stop feeding.
>>541684883is vyper unbanned yet
>>541685267It wasn't banned to my knowledge...?
>>541685236T R V E
>>541685201you can hear people a mile away unless they have backstabber, I don't see the point in wards and it would be better off rolled into a unique hero ability imo
>>541685201I think wards would end up being better as part of a specific heroes kit built around that.
>>541685317the current banned heroes from the inhouses are: vyper, kevin, mina, mo & krill, and gray talon
>some dotashitter already asked if we are getting a Meepo in Deadlock¿qué? Have these 'people' ever opened the game or even seen the gameplay???
>>541685432Since when??
>>541685441>meepo in deadlockholy aids
>>541685441>cntrl + F Meepo>0 results foundAre you ok?
>>541683416At least bebop can press more than 1 skill in a teamfight
Meepo in deadlock when
>>541685432None of those heros are broken thobeitMina was rightfully banned when she could ult cheese but now everything is fair game
>>541685441discord is that way niggerfella
>>541685564
>>541685750No Meepo ever I'm afraidBut we will get Arc Warden
I don't think a real micro hero is possible. all of the meepo or meepo adjacent designs in the custom hero forum all sound nonsensical
>>541685968>arc wardensinclair
>>541685854>micro hero>tpsare they retarded? You could *maybe* do invoker but anything with units more complicated than Migu turret would be unplayable. Maybe SK skeletons.
4/12 Inhouse please wake up americanski 7ZFM17ZFM17ZFM1
>>541686165americans are working
>>541686165i just got fired so i have nothing better to do.
>>541686276I assumed they were NEETs to be honest
>>541686076Nah he's more Rubick.Arc Warden I think could actually translate over though, but the ult is tricky. His other 3 abilities could easily fit in Deadlock though.Maybe for the ult duration you could swap limitlessly between you and your clone, and the one you arent controlling shoots and uses abilities when the main one does without putting it on cooldown for the clone
>>541686165sorry I am just a Seeker who plays a single game on evenings I don't want to get a prolapse from people with 9k hours
When are we getting Invoker and Hoodwink heros?
>>541686119>You could *maybe* do invokerpersonally I see nothing wrong with invoker hero if it's just a piano spell cast
>>541686359euros have better welfare/unemployment programs
>>541686434>I don't want to get a prolapse from people with 9k hoursThere is no such person in the inhouse
>>541686359I'm the only NEET and that is because I live in the VSSR.
I play drifter because he is me IRL.
>>541686475they should just port him over 100%don't change the model or voicelines"gun" is just slow moving fireballs with infinite mag
>>541686652homeless drunk and french?
>>541686681Infinite magazine is fucking useless in this game because everybody can slide for it
>>541686508It just might be too hard to play with how fast the game is but what do I know I play like a grandpa anyway.>>541686652Everytime I see his vantablack hair I think it's a missing texture.>>541686681Invoker throws rocks :^)
>>541686652the only thing you resemble about Drifter is the smell
>>541686165>Victor already takenNooooo i wanted to FEED!
>>541681712>pugna, lich, and clinkz still existWhy did they change SK again!?
>>541685750Soon, the clones will just have basic agro tether mechanics like they are wow npcs when not being controlled. If one dies they all die, they have a combo stun that puts the target in a button mash QTE(scales with more clones assisting), they have an ability that's basically just counter spell, and a grenade ability. Ultimate draws a line between all clones that does knockup and damage(stacks if you have multiple lines overlap)Also only has single jump(short legs) but can bounce on each other's heads for more air, each stam bar is unique
>>541686945Probably blizzshitware
>>541686578I don't know, every time I joined I promptly regretted it because it was just me getting chokeslammed over and over again
>>541686475theoretically, what would happen if he fired this
>>541686945i always thought it was because of either the chinese or some fuckery with actblizz
>>541686652the hottest thing about drifter is his voice
>>541686945prob specifcally because it was the one hero the ancient bureaucrat in china's censership bureau knew about because his grandnephew liked playing dota.
>>541687035Just unlucky that time
>>541686962>if one dies they all diesounds unplayable and if doorman portals took them months to get trouble shoot, clone npc scripting would be far worse.
>>541687062>some fuckery with actblizzThis would make sense since they are still mad about letting dota through their fingers to this day.
>>541687035same but i try again once in a while to see if I can at least improve somehow
>>541687052It would blow up in his hands
>>541686701Louisianian
>>541687052I think shotguns are smoothbore, so the accuracy and range would be reduced.
>>541687236blizzard turning down icefrog is one of the biggest fuck ups in gaming lol. completely nonsensical. although a blizzard dota 2 would have shit the bed eventually
>>541686701I forgot Cajuns speak French.>>541686839I had a dream about drifter He was chasing Paige into a sewer and she vanished. There were 10 or so other drifters in there with alternate colors. They all smelled like shit cause they were in the sewer. Also, they all grabbed the main drifter and took turns raping him. Then the main drifter left the sewers smelling like shit and he had stink lines coming off him.
>>541687335>a blizzard dota 2 would have shit the bed eventuallyyeah look at the state of all their beloved franchises. I still can't believe they managed to salvage their failed MMO and then promptly ruin it through patches.
>>541686962if the clones are autonomous and can shoot it will be the most overpowered piece of shit ever made in a video game
>>541687178>sounds unplayableJust like meepo, sticking to tradition here
>Drunk Alchemist hero>Mixes colored potions for utility skills and punches people>Works like Lash with a Jarate dispenserHere's your "invoker"
4 slots left for inhouse7ZFM1
>>541687536They would have like 300xhp honestly thought it would be too weak, they could just scale the dmg down and have them plink for 5 dmg
>>541687335>blizzard turning down icefrog is one of the biggest fuck upsThe biggest miracle in gaming.The biggest bullet dodge in gaming. Valve isn't perfect but imagining that other reality causes me physical pain
>>541687793>300hpyou'd literally die within the 1st minute if you approached the bridge with them just poking
>>541687623>voiced by the demoman
>>541684378>WardsI'm not sure why people are asking for these, isn't everything in this game loud as fuck already? If you have headphones on you can hear people doing jungle camps from a couple blocks away. Plus, with how strong movement is and how small the map is i feel like you'd both get your important shit infested with vision ASAP and have a hard ass time contesting it if you are playing from behind. Scan would fit this game better if you want an universal vision mechanic.>friendly fire on own creeps for wave managementI don't hate the idea of having friendly fire on creeps if they're low HP, but i think the biggest problem with creep waves right now is that it's hard as fuck to contest soul orbs if they have a laser pointer m1 hero and you don't. Meleeing them means you have to tank damage and while you can harass them it's not exactly difficult to just hold position near your tower and plink any heads and soul orbs that poke out. I'd rather have some sort of pulling to help with that desu
>>541687905>is actually a black Scottish cyclops
>>541687803>pros>warcraft skins>cons>(post would exceed character limit)
>>541687901Thats what the micro is for, one gets low and you move him into cover and use another
>>541688009because you can place a deep ward on a camp see where the fed haze is and take a fight on the otherside of the map instead of waiting for them to show (if they do at all)
>>541688084do they stand still? oops you didn't pay attention for 1 second, you are dead because Mina magdumped itthey follow? Geist in a lane (any AoE spammer really) is now literally, mathematically unwinnable
Can we get salt as a "gun"?Just a hero throwing around magical salt or powder?Surely you can have some garlic spray to kill drifter with aswell.
7ZFM13 slots left for inhouse
>>541688217we have these things called ziplines that allow us unprecedented horizontal movement to cover the map as well as 6 players
>>541688243Have the meepos burrow underground when they arent being used where they are invulnerable.Give an ability to call 1 meepo to the one you are controlling so you can setup burrowed meepos as you go
>>541688243>stop paying attention and you dieYes that is how meepo works
>>541675815>try hardest to make gun victor work>lose a lot and it's stressful af to play>try spirit finally>win almost every gamethe ultimate passive is good but not as good as frontline Victor
>>541688471another flaw in this game
>>541679640I'm talking about a latina not a black.>inb4 IvyShe's a monster girl I want a human.
>>541688562Fucking told you
>>541688562i always combo vampiric burts with leech
>>541684378Fuck wards and fuck you
>>541679640wraith is choc, we need caramel.
>>541688604>>541688685one of the arroyos perhaps
>>541688685Fuck yeah more brown girls please Valve
>>541688562>ultimate passiveAsk me how I know you were playing gun vic wrong
>>541688685I like choc and caramelI need a big tit mod for wraithand paigeand minaand geist (bigger)
>>541688604wish grantedshe is trans and the lore is explicit how it was a dude who changed his gender
>>541688009Dota turdies won't be happy unless EVERYTHING from dota is ported over, even the things that don't make sense.
>>541676071whats the point of this clip
>>541688905pre or post op
>>541688851I was building a hybrid, but the slot it requires is too much and had almost no good spikes early because his gun accuracy is too fucking shit. If he had the same accuracy as Infernus he'd be a solid gun character.
>>541688905Nothing wrong with breaking in a few bucks mister
>>541689025it's magic, dude.
>>541689098based i love gock
at the rate this lobby fills dinner will be ready.
3 slots left7ZFM17ZFM17ZFM1
>>541688423damn I won a whole ass pub match and ts still did not fill up
SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THE DOORMAN!!!!
>>541685441>>541685854>unironically browsing reddit>and posting some redditor's retarded post here as if anyone gives a shit
why would I buy slowing hex to stop people teleporting away from me when I can just get silence wave and shut down their entire kit, weaken them to make it easier to kill them, and get better stats
>>541687623>Warden throws flask>catches it midair and drinks it
>>541689350Because vortex is more fun for wombo combo
2 more spots left for inhouse7ZFM1
>>541689350take it one step further and buy focus lens
need 2 for the inhouse7ZFM1
>>541689350>3200 cost item is better than 1600 cost item Woah....
>>541689517focus lens is a bait item>6400 get debuff removed
>>541685854Did you seriously get btfod on r*ddit of all places and then arrived to cry about it here? Pathetic fucking retard
Lets get /dlg/'s opinions on some of the current mechanics>Laninghttps://strawpoll.com/BDyNzo2MeyR>Item Slotshttps://strawpoll.com/eJnvVLjeEnv>Headshotshttps://strawpoll.com/jVyG2odMQZ7>Confirms/Denieshttps://strawpoll.com/NPgxebwpKZ2
>>541689879But people here don't actually play the game
is spirit res worth it on victor anymore or should you instead just get whatever the most relevant defense is
2 more please7ZFM17ZFM17ZFM1
>>541689879>no option to make headshots/deny MORE impactfulYou polls are lolbab coded and functional useless beyond propaganda
>>541690018unless you're truly getting bummed by spirit vomit, I don't bother. Sometimes I get items like greater expansion because it has 10% spirit resist.
>>541690018Nope, just get whatever res is most relevant or better yet: stack more spirit steal.
what if they introduced mana but it did literally nothing you just had a mana bar at 100% all the time
Why would you even play paradox? Want to carbine? Gay talon does it better, harder and faster. Want to swap? (cuck) go play bebop with 60m range hook after an upgrade and 30m base on a low cooldown compared to swap. And don't even mention the shitty wall that you have to waste points you could have used on the grenade to farm, just buy curse on bebop and parashit is literally redundant.
>>541689879ip grabber nice try
>>541690221because you can do all that at once on a fun hero with tons of utility and damage
1 slot left for inhouse roughousing 7ZFM1
>>541690279Truth is we only play her because she's hot and sounds hot, make heyahoya into a cute girl and paradox will be forgoten, same for beepnigger.
>>541690221shes fun.
Inhouse themesonghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbMccIg9sLk
>>541690392Speak for yourself then
choose your heroes already jesus
>>541688217Yes, and the winning team would be stupid as fuck not to plant wards on your camps to jump your ass ASAP whenever you start taking your own t3 jungle to try and catch up on farm. Observer wards alone don't make much sense without the full suite of dota vision tools and i can't think of something more annoying than having to deal with shit like billy smoke ganks
>>541690392>heyahoya genderbent into Land O'lakes girl (deceased)make it happen
>>541690221she's cute
>>541690398>>541690279>>541690458I agree though, she is fun. Her kit is fun but why does it have no scaling? Her spirit scaling is dogshit and her gun which you would build for carbine does not scale well at all due to being the worst burst fire type in the game, it's down there with the worst guns in the game.
>about to cum>inhouse startsFUCK
>>541690221>shitty wall>ability so broken its been nerfed 15 times and is still strong
Anyone else in the inhouse wearing a chastity cage?
I feel like I win way more games when people aren't using their microphones
How do they make invading more risky? I think a big source of the win lane win game and snowballing comes from stealing the enemy jungleMaybe they could use elevation? Put the camps up high with ez access from friendly and the enemy has to do some bs parkour
>>541690678It's her best ability true, but it's a wall that relies on 2 other skills to make work. Tell me though, why is her swap 20m? while bebop's hook is base 30 with an upgrade to 60?
>>541690117>>541690146thanks gamers. build looking okay y/n? ive been having some pretty good success with it since the patch
>>541690838actually yeah they should make it enemy target like vengeful's ultretarded that you can miss a long CD ultimate that might put you in dangerg when hook exists
>>541690909Berserker is bait, go point blank for the slow, metro showed me the light believe it or not
>>541690838because paradox swap is much faster, doesn't get caught on allies, and gives her a large heal. paradox also has both a wall and a grenade she can swap you into and a near hitscan laser beam that literally stops you from moving in order to set up swap instead of having to just rawdog it like bebop does outside of point blank uppercut -> hook shit nobody does
>>541678151Why are you on fucking 4chan loser
>>541690838because her swap is better
>>541688009based ryoshuposter
>>541689350>why would someone buy a targeted item that cant miss, has a massive distance, slows the target and reduces their dash distance while making themselves faster for half the price
>>541691050thats pretty good, i like it. yeah i guess even with an item basically designed for him, point blank still beats out berserker on average most times AND it has the extra movement slow
>>541691310does anyone actually buy slowing hex to stop people who are already far away from them? hell no, they buy it when they're fighting someone up close and then whoops my teleport is off cooldown gg almost had me as they lmao 2 city blocks away from youyou're not missing silence wave point blank, and silence wave being a t3 means that even if its more expensive then t2 slowing hex it hits better stat breakpoints and isn't actually that expensive. people splash knockdown or debuff remover all the fucking time for the same price
>>541689350FACE ME AND DIE
Invoker in Deadlock when?
>>541691564youre wrong and Im sure youre doing that thing bad players do where youre only thinking about how the items work on the character you play in their ideal scenarios
>>541688562How do you get 0 obj damage as haze lmaooooo
Is it just me or has Ritualist been flooded by cheaters or massive amounts of smurfs?
>>541691826Invoker is a pudge tier iconic designIt's criminal that every moba clone has a hook function and none have an invoker function
>be abrams>smacking niggas in the enemy base, kill 2>wraith shoots me and takes like half my life bar>turn and chud stare at her>about to shoulder her when she uses ult>uno reverse and throw curse at her before her ult hits>pummel her to death with my bare hands because i bait out the parry and you cant silence these fists
>>541691902He was literally a dagger build vs Victor. You can guess how it went.
>>541692034you just fell off desu
>>541691864ok but you've still failed to actually explain what situation slowing hex would be better in outside of preventing infernus from dashing away when hes already 30m away from you aka the only range where missing silence waves bigger then some characters hitbox is reasonable
>>541692060Chudface Abrams had more soul honestly
>>541692170Even then its HAZE. The invis character that is good at split pushing as Wraith is..like what the actual fuck it makes no sense to me.
>>541692202I already told you its advantages over silence wave, Im not interested in crafting imaginary scenarios to convince someone on 4chan which item is better, they are both good depending on who is building them, what the team comps are, etc. keep building silence wave if you want
>>541681318Alright, Grey Talon is very different from how I'm used to play. I don't hate him, though, he'll just take getting used to. DEFINITELY needs green items since he is a floating slow-moving target.
For my victor build I like to combine Infuser, colossus and Phantom strike by about 30k soulsThey all have a 30s cooldown so they overlap really well. Makes you unkillable and really hard to kite for 6 seconds
>another match where the obvious smurf goes 25/0
>>541692941>another match where you're still stuck in the monolith of initiate 1.I feel sorry for those still stuck in that rank.
How do I stop 'smurfing'? I borrowed my buddies account a year ago and picked up the games basics (also 10 years of dota 2) and I'm on my main account and I'm starting to stomp - is there a way to elect to be higher skilled?
seven can't kill anything with his ultthey killed him
Stats for inhouse match?
>pic vindicta>do literally nothing all game>still draw all the agro>vik carries the gameEasy Game All Me.
>>541692941the hunt begins……
>>541693197
>>541692936>colossus Do not buy +hp items on this hero, you're making your heal less effective and killing yourself faster
>>541693197you are not stomping; you are being carried.
ugh nobody cares you stupid negro
Need 2 more fellows for inhouse7ZFM1
>>541693601k
REMOVE DRIFTER ULT FROM THE VIDEO GAME
who is the most chud coded herois it something between warden and grey talon
>>541693769its definitely seven or mcginnis
>>541693752>DA HUNT BEGINS
>>541693769it's gaytalon imo
>>541693742LMAOthe truth is that the more you win, the less skilled your teammates actually become. It’s a retarded rank system, so even if you keep winning you will still be stuck with pisslows. Even at the highest MMR, they still put them with people a few ranks below them
>do nothing but eat shit the entire match>our Haze who has done nothing but freefarm for 25 minutes has the same amount of souls as I do
>>541693742>4/6 counter bomb bebop>bomb bebop does 100k damagejesus christ
I think playing Victor has made me more passive. When I play other heroes I just sit on lane and farm now. I can't tell if this is costing me games or notI don't even have the most souls most of the time even though I catch waves, do nearby camps and smash boxes. I just don't get it
1 more 7ZFM1
>>541693742This was a bot match, wasn't it
>>541694076double bombing yourself and landing a hook or rolling in is better than bombing and waiting if they buy shit like spell parry or debuff remover. I also ran focusing lens and went gun after they bought a bunch of spirit resist since I had like 20k souls at one point
>>541692941Welcome to the eternal initiate pit, fellow returning player.
I'm Archon and sometimes i lane against some Eternus/Ascendant dude playing Mina/Mirage/Infernus/Haze and it's just impossible because the guy just has absurd aim. I feel like it's fundamentally impossible for me to have a chance in the lane because if i poke my head out for a microsecond they stack their passive instantly and i lose the trade. It's just a hopeless different in sheer aiming skill
TAslut pick ALREADY
TA pick a hero
>>541694221the otherside
JUST GOTTA PUT THE KETTLE ON.
>>541687052boom
READY UP TA ASSASSIN
>>541694380its simplejust>quit your job and become a parasite>play the game for 14 hours a day>always be on some sort of stimulantalso if you are older than 25 don't even bother
>>541694380If they are instantly shooting your head the moment you peak, you either must have shit movement or they are cheating.
What kind of gun would an insect hero use
>>541694910ovipositor ball plasma gun
>>541692171wierder things have happened
>>541694910Acid spray from abdomen.
>>541681418I was thinking how awesome domination lines would be in this
>>541692034Initiate is the smurflandyou probably just got put into a game with someone 4 ranks higher because the MM algorithm is stupid
>>541695117how do I see peoples individual rankings? I only see the average.
>>541694910An m2 stinger of course
>>541693446His 1 heal is %missing hp, so it gets more effective
Has anyone submitted a mothman hero concept
Sapphire Flame (Good, Heroic Characters)Ivy InfernusDynamo PaigeKelvinetc.Amber Hand (Scheming, Evil Characters)DrifterLady GeistMinaVyperSevenetc.game needs this distinction like dota radiant / dire
>>541695586if valve weren't a bunch of faggots it'd be a mothwoman
headshots are too important even if you don't build headshot boosting items you're basically forced to hit >50% headshots to do meaningful damage which is an absurd barrier in a game with such spastic movement
Why do people smurf in a game that's not even open to the public?
Is any hero a hitman? Haze is more like a glowie so idk if she counts.
Phantom-Eternus update
>>541691052I'll keep saying this as I did way back in the release of the game, carbine DOES NOT STUN YOU, you are free to use skills or items such as ethereal shift to completely cuck parashit.
>>541694910Another insect (which is also a gun)
Man the matchmaking system still sucks ass. My last ten games had one whole close match while majority were stomps on either side.
>>541695838because they want to win? what a retarded question
>>541694910Insects are SMG codedHowever a sniper arachnid that could climb up walls would be cool
>>541695887I main kelvin and even I thought kelvin didn't need buffs.
>>541695703Nah, that will ruin the design >>541695838Low T and a fear of failure
>Muh game was a blowout so the matchmaking is bador maybe the game is just fundamentally incapable of producing close games because it's poorly designed, have you considered that?
>>541695858calico and vyper
>>541695887pocket up players in absolute shambles
>>541695887wraith as second highest wr sure is the sign of a healthy meta :)
>>541695897Don't think it's matchmaking, people are just terrible at the game so if they start losing they start playing passive which is the opposite of what you're supposed to do. The passive players let the winning team continue outfarming and ganking the people pushing lanes as they sit in the jungle doing nothing.So basically they need to have a big warning message that says JUNGLING WILL MAKE YOU LOSE IF YOU ARE BEHIND every single game the deficit goes >10k
>Whenever I get a Ritualist lobby it's fun>Win or lose>Some reason get thrown in Alchemist lobby>It's literal hell on earth
>>541692941just got carried smoothly by a wraith player, feels good man.
>>541696516Alchemist is the rank that a brand new account is calibrated at bro
>>541695951Smurfing is for niggers who want an ego tripIt's the same as doing playing a quiz game for children and acting like you're great for doing well in it
>>541696639Nope, I think you literally can't leave initiate any more for the first 50 maybe 100 games>>541696516Probably cause youre getting into an average alchemist lobby not just alchemists or seekers. So there might be 2-3 ritualists in the game 2-3 initiates and then a mix of whatever else in the middle. I've seen games with a phantom and alchemist for example they will just average mmrs the higher you go the weirder it gets
You are reincarnated into the body of Hoopoo, give me your three to five step process to fix Sinclair.
>>541685441reddittor nigger I wish you painful death
>Gun keeps getting buffed>Except for on Ivy>She's never allowed to have a good gunWhy?
>>541694496I think there's a finnish jew playing vyper
>>541694910Make it spit and wipe its mouth-dibles to reload
>>541696874>fix sinclairbut he's already pretty good?
>>541695887Surprised mirage is still in the trenches, probably because you have dinguses running qsr and 4 fire rate items
>>541696171we will overcome this
>>541697026
>>541696924>buffed Wraith and ended up making her just as if not more oppressive than gunivy
>>541696693and? they want to win
>>541696874Remove his clothes (except the hat)Widen his hipsGive him tits
>>541695838I'm not smurfing. I'm really good at Paige but I keep getting matched with 0/10/1 players on my team that abandon at the ten minute mark, keeping me in alchemist perpetually. Have you considered the other "smurfs" are just people who are good at one hero, but matchmaking keeps raping them into dirt-rank MMR?
>>541696240It is unironically, she is peak rat and rat meta is the most balanced moba meta
>>541684378I thought the game needed wards but after a few hundred hours I would never want them. The map is so fucking small as is and you can tell where most of the enemy are at any given time based on sound or creep locations.
You are a huge faggot, do not show up to an inhouse if you're gonna bitch then ragequit.
permaban that paige ragequitter NOW
>>541696516paige's shithole is probably surrounded by cute ginger curls and the thought of that makes my dick twitch
Gun on mystic characters feels so fucking wrong to play.I don't care how powerful you get, making your skill buttons do far less damage just sucks.
I spend many nights thinking about how Infernus should have looked like Ignitia from the dead and forgotten game, Hyper Universe.
man calico is fun
Why are support players mentally ill.
>>541697361>>541697378>Paige player is a faggotShocked honestly
>>541697378if only yoshi added that function in custom matches
>>541697496Spoke and sounded just like a redditor to be desu
>>541697180thank you for your seeker opinion
>>541697492What makes them mental? If they play well they can carry a match.
6/12 in the lobby still, could hang around and see if we get more going7ZFM1
>>541696819I made an alt and my very first match was alchemist 3.
>>541695887>Kelvin gun is too strong! We need to nerf it!>Takes away a single bullet>Oh my, that was too much, we should buff his spiritholy FUCK they're so retarded it hurts
>>541697496>>541697361Wait for the Geist to post a clip of what made him rage quit by the way it's quite funny
>>541696874Assistant is a proper illusion unit that mirrors your movement and benefits from heroic aura instead of copying your attackscasting assistant hides your health bar, and swapping places is hidden from the enemy team
>>541697631I have things to do sorry guys, treat sexless nice he's a cool guy
>>541696924>keep building gun anyway since they gutted all her abilities
Here's the impetus of the Paige's rage quit.
>>541697720I wasn't gonna play but now I'm joining just to grief that person
>>541697692hes also inherently stronger because now he can stick to his gun carry and make sure they never die, even if he wasnt touched his wr would spike on this patch because he could just trap anyone who tries to interact with the M1 player in the retard chamber
>>541696819>Probably cause youre getting into an average alchemist lobbyits this. many games ive lost where ive come out of lane with a lead against slightly worse people but still know how to play only to be met by Mr. emisary with 13 kills and 17k souls at 10 mins who ate 2 brand new players with no hands in lane. and its always some shit like drifter or infernus so they just steamroll any fight from that point on
>>541697765>solo ults a lone geist>rage quits when the same happens back
>>541697765>Geist has ulti don't follow him>Noooo we gonna heckin kill him!!!>Dies>Has a sook and rage quitskek
>>541697765you didn't have to include parry on mina
>>541697604Its objectively true, rats play the objective. When its brool meta its just a shitty hero shooter with lane mechanics that dont matter. When its afk jungle meta its a shitty rpg where only soul optimizing matters. Splitpush meta is actually engaging with the moba mechanisms in a meaningful way
>>541697935>picks a support>doesn't want to play around teammates.JUSTLIKEMYPUBS
Geist would 100 be sugar mommy for Pocket
>>541697952He likes to show off his emissary gameplay to ride the high of when he used to be "good" (abused overpowered bebop)
>>541697765>mina and paige the hot normalfag troon characters getting dumpstered on by gilf gallmaofao you love to see coomers getting owned
>>541697765>retarded unfunny name>follows geist with ult by herself into small enclosurethis is the caliber of player that ragequits video games>>541697953please dont respond to me your opinion is worthless
>>541698004It's not even that he just didn't want to listen to my call and had a bitch fit when I was proven right
>laning>no one visible on screen but still getting shot>look up>sinclair assistant is floating in the air auto shooting me like a turretwhat the fuck, it can do both those things?
>>541697952It's part of the story.
>>541698068I accept your arguementless concession
but have you considered... Calico?"nyaa!" *jumps in your face and kills you despite being a total retard*
>>541698103yes and the based sinclairs go majestic leap to keep the clone in ac130 angles
>>541697952I'm sorry you got CLIPPED but that is just the nature of the game Mina.
For how long have you played this game?
>>541698103Don't you get a little bored of your confused cat image spam schtick
>>541690221Literally just wall. That's what's keeping her from being dead everywhere. Just one more holliday buff and even the proplayers will stop picking her.
>>541698230355 hours started summer of last year after seeing the umpteenth /v/ thread about it made by the Ivy spammers. I think I have less then 1k games maybe even less then 500.
>>541698252you are not built for this website my retarded little nigger, maybe try r*ddit
7ZFM1still at just 6/12, if people don't start dripping in soon I'll queue pubs
Newb question I see people confirming creep drops even with no enemies around, do they not auto count as yours if you ignore them? Have I been missing a shit ton of souls? Also what are the notable spawn timers?
>>541698252He doesn't matter, only I do and I am not yet sick of his catspam.
>>541698252dont you get bored of being schizophrenic on an anonymous image board
>Lane with a friend often>He always eats both hitboxes of the doorman bell>Complains that i don't do enough as Doorman in lane when i'm playing him because my bells aren't dealing that much damage
>>541698483habit probably
>>541698483>Newb question I see people confirming creep drops even with no enemies around, do they not auto count as yours if you ignore them? Have I been missing a shit ton of souls? Also what are the notable spawn timers?It's just to make sure that nobody snipes the souls. The notable spawn timers are 2 minutes for small jungle camps and boxes/statues, 5 minutes for the bridge runes, 8 minutes for the large camps and sinner's machines and 10 minutes for the midboss
>>541698483habit/practice or being noided about someone camping for your orbs. but I've also seen souls drop on my screen despite being in range so it's also a bit of assurance in a shit buggy game
>>541698483It's like clicking mineral patches in sc. It keeps you mentally in the game and constantly doing mechanics so that when it matters you do it right. Also some cheeky fuck could not be showing and deny them.
>>541697765We know he's in this thread. Defend yourself
Does anyone think that the new map is too dark? It's just fine for me, but I remember hearing someone complain in the voice chat that he can barely see and that it's too dark compared to the old map.
>>541698876I play lowest graphics because 'EARLY ALPHA' and the map seems bright as fuck to me.
>>541697765there was a moment in this game where I (wraith) ulted you and I was screaming at my abrams to help me kill you while you were silenced and you couldn't swap. You have no idea how fucking mad I was that my abrams that was next to me a second ago had disappeared just when I had you on the ropes
>>541697616because if you go full "support" then you're retardedcharacters are supposed to damage and not suck a carry's cock the whole game
Can you pick your lane or is it always random at first?
>>541699065You can ask to swap lanes when you've loaded into a game, use the arrows underneath the friendly hero icons
>>541698876Nigga I don't give a fuck nigga I'm not yo daddy nigga turn yo brightness up
>>541698868he won't players like that unironicly think they are not the issue while being very much the issue. if he had any humility he would just admit he was wrong and keep playing but instead he rq a zero stakes game. KWAB
>>541699065it's always random at first, but there is an official feature to request swapping lanes if you hold tab and click on the swap icon under your teammates. they'll have to accept it.before that, the old fashioned way was just to ask in VC and jump from your line to the other. I still think this way is better because it catches the enemy by surprise and doesn't give them an opportunity to counterswap lanes in response.
>>541698434do we has a match ID to the last game?
7/12 inhouse7ZFM1
>>54169930544284554
>>541697935>>541697941>>541697952>>541698052>>541698068>>541698868>>541698991You people are stupid niggers unfortunately, if abrahms stayed in the teleporter, geist would have been shoulder charged, rooted, and killed. Plus, I have a shield. It's an easy kill. 1600 life with no bullet or spirit resist.
holy cope
>>541697765HOLY KEKShould have tbagged him too
>>541699332Is there any requirement to join?
>>541699474he already used his should charge you double digit iq nigger
>>541699650Don't rq.
>>541699650Nope8/12 atm
>>541699674it still wouldn't have mattered
>>541699474It is true but if you had listened to my previous callouts and warnings you'd have realized the Abrams is unreliable and scared.
>>541698004Paige isnt a support, theres no true support in this game you doublenigger
>>541699650oracle and up, must have prior comp experience and know the callouts, no picking mo & krill or shiv
>>541699474And then what? it's not like the game was decided then and there it's a meaningless kill
>>541699650No M&K
>>541699857then why didn't you solo frag the Geist then huh?
>>541676765>at least won't screech at you in thick accent after any minor inconvenience.unless you got a latina gf then gg
please god don't shuffle me in with the drifter
>>541699791>if the ideal imaginary scenario happened it would have worked>w-whats that scenario wasnt possible>w-well it doesnt mattercan you just admit you are awful at the video game and have brain damage, its apparent for all to see, this is a chance for you to grow as a person
>>541699650Don't pick Paige
>>541699754>>541699758So I could join as a newfag?
matchmaking sucks todaynothing but stomps
Do people complain about the matchmaking in Dota 2 as much as they do with this game?
>>541699945Cus I wasn't even in this game lmao I don't play inhouses
>>541699474Even if Geist dies there, a 1 for 1 trade there is not worth the time and lost souls it's better to leave Geist to waste time going to heal and farm yourself instead of going for a kill that's gonna only result in 1000 souls IF the Geist is retarded (hint, she isn't) and ults Paige instead of the Abrams that's at risk of killing her in a 1v1. You're a total whiny faggot by the way
>>541699992>latinathe angry sex makes it a win.
>>541699993Drifter refresher ult duration build coming up.
>>541700043Yes but if you are brand new expect to struggle against certain players
>>541700043yeah just don't expect to do great.
10/127ZFM1
>>541700043we will check profiles and kick anyone with less than 500 hours or a private profile or fails to join their teams voice channel in the discord
10/12 inhouse7ZFM1
>>541692941No smurfs up here in Archon, just boosted niggers and cheating aim faggots. Two in a row tonight in fact. The Russian Cartel is ruining the EU servers yet again.
>>541698387Ironic coming from a toxotard
playing doorman for the first time what do I do
>>541700557not ult me
>>541700557ult him
>>541700557click the bell
>>541700148>projectingI don't care? I called for vindicta to hold root when calico jumps me 5 times, not once did she do it. it was a pointless game
>>541700557START PANICKING
holy deadhouse
cmon 2 more7ZFM1
if we don't get 2 more we WILL have a 5v5 solo mid lane
1 (one)
11/12one more
give me draft give me draft give me draft GIVE ME DRAFT AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>541680576It's been like 13 years and there are still heroes in Dota that don't have taunts.
giving it another 5 minutes
cmon niggers surely we can find one (1) more
>>541701446There are still heroes who have models from the beta. Imagine if Yamato stays like she is forever, because thats what it is.
Damn why do niggas here prefer to queue pub and get pubstomped and go next, than to join the inhouse and get stomped by regular users and then get posted as webms on 4chan?
>>541701623>There are still heroes who have models from the beta.Who other than Morphling? I can't think of anyone else that's in need of a re-skin than him
>>541686945>Still retards saying it was ChinaPugna is untouched.Clinkz is untouched.There is a specific Chinese version that removes all the spooky shit because China is weak.It was 100% Blizzard that made them change SK. SK was changed to Wraith King at the exact time that Necrolyte became Necrophos and Windrunner became Windranger.
>let djinn's mark get cdr>suddenly mirage is god tierwhat the fuck lol
>>541701754WR, Axe, Sven, DK, Sniper
>>541692035Was fucking hilarious when Riot made that faggot twink painter and the entire League fanbase was like "FINALLY WE HAVE INVOKER IN LEAGUE".Then you play him and you can only use 3 spells at a time.
i really do hate pudge 2.0. A piece of shit honorless hero that can spend all game smashing his dick with a hammer and still have a decent shot at winning because of 2 skills
>>541702531I remember there was another fag with like multiple guns or some shit with shills making vids on how this is riots try at Invoker-like hero. And it was just another 3 spells + ult hero, but sometimes one gun changes for another and gets slightly different particles or effect or whatever. Will they ever learn.I'm waiting for Deadcock's attempt at Voker or at least something cool and original, so far only Doorman is somewhat new.
>>541676891Be aggressive, always be farming waves , prioritise taking enemy jungle over yours. Always take waves and hit towers
>>541692035or techiestechies is iconic
>>541676891Just buy cultist if you want to guarantee being ahead on some carry like wraith
>struggling lane but have to go afk for like 10 seconds>guardian was at more than half health>come back and the enemy team from the OTHER lane is pushing in our walker
>>541702983>Techies>iconic
>>541703389Do you think girls like Ivy and Vyper went to school? Do you think they got bullied for being different? Do you think Ivy ate her lunch alone in the toilets and then went home to pretended she was very popular
>>541681429Thank god. Absolute unbearable faggotry
>>541696874I honestly don't know what the issue is with him, I don't know why his play rate is so lowSometimes I think maybe he isn't fun, but I have 22 games on him with 16 wins, and I do have fun, sometimes... I guess maybe vexing bolt is annoying to a lot of people, it is annoying to me too sometimes... but I don't know how I would change it without making it way less interestingThe more I think about his design the more I think nothing needs to be changed, but nobody seems to like him for some reason. Copying ults is cool
>>541682358I feel smug predicting the removal of solo lanes. Didnt expect them to remove last hitting though, that was very welcome too
>>541704169I just dont think he has any identity. He steals ults yeah that's pretty cool I guess but beyond that wtf. Weird clone shit that barely does damage and he cant exactly max gun damage to split push with it and still do well with stolen ults. A stun that doesnt really stun they go fast af and are hard to hit due to smaller hitbox, and then a damage spell I dont know how it even works. It's just like a bunch of random bullshit. What exactly are you mastering when you play him?
>>541693343>surge of power on 2>long rangeor no balls
>>541699056>Noooo you can't just curse, knockdown, slowing hex and then refresher and do it all again to stop the entire enemy team from winning the teamfight!!!>You have to left click the enemy in the head like it's Counter-Strike!!!Cope, carry-cuck. You are a ranged creep.
>>541702267For some reason his winrate is still shit, sharing my build from a previous threadNew mark mirage, draft 2First 3 for investment stat powerspike>Extra spiritEfficient stats, mystic burst does not work with mark>extended magBuilds into Escalating resilience, need an ammo increase to get max mark w/o reload>Healing riteFor regen purposes, is better than mystic regen by a hair but we get bothFirst Core>compress cooldownEnables the mark, total x8 stack time 6s, the ammo+ let's our mag last 7.5s compared to 5.8s base>mystic regenToo good with mark spam, since the mark is enabled we go for more sustain >enchanters emblemDecent flat spirit which is preferred for mark, also gives cdr> Escalating resilienceIt fits into marks gameplan from every angle, the additional ammo prevents us from reload cucking ourselves, the resistance stacks very well with evasion and general sustainability enables mirage to drag fights and win through mark attrition >spirit lifestealEnables more mark Healing, builds into infuser which is a great source of flat spirit power but its lower priority than the other late game itemsAt this point we are at 3.2k thresholds for our stat bonusesLate game>Divine kevlarDuration is very good for mirage kit, flat spirit power is great, shield on ult is great>boundlessLargest source of flat spirit power we can get, will be hitting massive after this>ricochetSpread the mark, essential before the late game mid/patron fightsAt this point we are at our 9.6k stat bonuses The rest is left open for flexibility but would reccomend Inhibitor, Duration, Magic carpet I dont run qsr because it is not good to pop it early. Firerate is generally passed over because even just +40% make our magdump go faster than the mark stack, adding a 2.6s reload before our max stack. I do think Kinetic dash is good because its both fire rate and ammo but slots are tight
>>541678189enchanter's emblem
>>541696874give him a proper model
>>541700586>>541700621>>541700626I played gunman and it was really fun. His gun is pretty crazy. Think I'll keep doing that
>>541702983I had no idea who techies were until I played dota. I knew who pudge was before I knew what dota was.
boutta blow up
>>541699056Paige having a 60% winrate with full support items says otherwise you stupid farmbrained nigger. How about next time you get a shield, heal or see a knock down on that Mina or lash that's about tk tear your asshole open wider than your uncle did 12 years ago, you say thank you instead of seething like a little pussy faggot.
>>541696874+1 to unfucking his dogshit model and garbage animationsalso gib extra couple of seconds when you copy an ult>tfw held onto one for just a little too long and it expired when i'd gotten into a place to use it
why do my 10 seconds of shooting enemy do 500 damage but his 1 second of shooting does 4000
>>541704985imagine paige's butthole and how cute it looks, ringed by ginger twirls, hairy pussy close by
good night and have a good week in Deadlock, I'm going to uninstall so I don't accidently play this since I got an exam next week and a bibles worth of pages to readgo get 'em champsI believe in youexcept ragebaiters, ragebaiters can suck dick
>>541705218I don't have to imagine she's my gf irl
>>541704169>The more I think about his design the more I think nothing needs to be changed, but nobody seems to like him for some reasonHis visual design is boring and his entire personality is that you have to listen to a bitchy divorced couple bickering as you play. No thanks. No idea why they couldn't just make him a stereotypical egomaniac magician chad or some kind of moustache twirling waluigi fucker.
>>541705218>had ginger gf>dumped her because she spent all her freetime on instagram
>>541705198I feel this way every time I lane against mcree, tornado man, doorboy, or hzel
>>541705356Gl with the grades then, unless you're a Paige player, then fuck you
ok the mina changes are actually kinda wild, the mary poppins float is fun as fuck. is it supposed to not activate off zipline though? i notice every time i drop from zipline holding ADS doesn't let me float
>>541696874How to make polymorph more fun:I was thinking maybe you could turn them into a ball or any object that rolls/slides based on their current momentum + direction. Could be interesting mind games. I got the idea from how viscous cube makes you slide down ramps. The momentum rework might make someone chasing your team slide all the way into your walker, or makes it so a retreating enemy goes much further back than they wanted. Maybe they slide into a dynamo ult.Reason I want it reworked is that this spell isn't very satisfying to use for anyone but a punching sinclair since it reduces the model size and increases their speed it's hard to get value off of it for yourself and teammates. If you just want it for an interrupt literally any character can buy knockdown so I just dont think it's great, plus unsatisfying to use. They are turned into rabbits and that's all it ever does.
>>541705514give me this + sexy rabbit
>>541705218Paige isn't my type physically. Model swap her with Mina or a cute asian girl then we're talking. I only play her because I prefer enchater supports over playmakers. Though in Dota I am divine like 5700 peak mmr as a Crystal Maiden/ Earth Spirit main with Invoker/ Ench/Chen pocket whenever they're good pos 4/5
>>541696874>two entities sharing one bodysinclair should work like picrel
>>541705703seems like there's some weird input reading issue or something and I can only do drop -> M2 sometimes, but if you just hold m2 before dropping off it works 100% of the time
How is Drifter right now? I want to get good at a new hero. Can he carry games?
>>541706531yeah.
>>541697478Cute but I can't imagine Valve making a loli ever
>>54170653120% of your games you will be an unstoppable juggernaut 20% of your games you will be a very stoppable juggernaut60% of your games you brool and do average and coinflip your wins
>>541696874keep the blue mage ult because its the only interesting part of the character but make the rest of his kit shit like "increased active item slots" or adding riders to any debuff you do so to encourage an actual bag of tricks playstyle instead of "hope this janky as fuck seeking bolt detection lets you one shot someone" wizard or pocket 2 as he is currently played.I don't think they're ever going to make invoker in this game so making a character who really wants to buy active items is the next best thing
>>541706531drifter's main problem is that if you snowball the enemy is just going to focus fire you, a character without great sustain or escape who is entirely melee range, he can be very squishy unless you either always gank with a friend (slows your scaling on kills) or you buy a lot of survival items and then you have a hard time getting those kills at all. there's a reason you see more and more people ultmaxxing and just making it really annoying for the enemy team to play
>>541706849vindicta was apparently burned at the stake as a child so if they were to have one it would be her.
>>541696874replace/rework his 1 to not be so janky increase the time he can hold ultsmake it more obvious when he's holding an ulthis 3 is fineI don't know what to do about his 2, it's part of the jank that is his 1 so probably also replace
>>541697032Oh yeah?! Well how do YOU build him wise guy?
Can someone recreate this funny as fuck ivy "dobson inflation" video but with the new model I lose it everytime it's so fucking funny.
>>541706531>Can he carry games?He doesn't clear jungles fast enough to truly hypercarry and he's better at going neutral on lane than actually winning it, but he's good at making the days of people who jungle 24/7 and/or have ez mode escapes miserable.Agree with >>541707109, you can't really 1v11 (pick wraith or haze for this) but your ult is fucking amazing during teamfights. I really hope they change how his stacks work at some point, it's really annoying to get denied the extra weapon damage because some rooftop hopping jungle nigger happened to walk nearby right as you were finishing them off.
>>541696874Delete it entirely. Sinclairs kit was ripped from eternal return with a classic "copycat" ult slapped in. No one liked playing vs Emma for the same reasons. Get turned into a bunny then fucking deleted.
>>541707607drifter's problem is that haze just sorta already does everything he already does, but can just hyperfarm instead of needing to be active and building stacks. also has a better disengage/engage on sleep, can teamwipe, etc
>>541707594>funnydont lie to us you want to jerk offf to it
Does buying meele charge/crushing fists really not make sense on calico?
Is this true about Vindicta? https://litter.catbox.moe/tk7ngk.png
>>541704169his play rate is low because his ult is not fun to use, basically most people want to use certain ults, thats a defining reason to choose a character, but on top of that you need to deal with the fact that you need to know how to use every ult at every skill point level, which ones work without the rest of their kit, against certain heroes, etc. like playing sinclair and stealing pocket ult before youve maxed it, or stealing a haze ult only to find out it needs fixation to workthe rest of the kit is not very exciting either, spectral assistant is extremely boring, bunny is obnoxious, and magical bolt is kind of fun but awkward to use, he doesnt appeal to most of the playerbase
>>541707963>implyingSo what if I wanted to? I'm just asking haha, if Ivy got all big and round that'd be crazy haha.
>>541708045I played with a woman on vindicta last night that kept solo pushing up to walkers for this to happen despite me pinging retreat so yeah probably true
>>541708186>or stealing a haze ult only to find out it needs fixation to worki love getting sinclair on the enemy team when im haze for exactly this reason9/10 times it's a free kill because they think it will do anything
>>541707607>>541707918>pick wraith or haze I don't like these two heroes. Who else can carry me out of Ritualist?
>>541708303I played with a woman on punch paige like a week ago who definitely had ADHD and autism. First time I've ever actually laughed at a womans joke. More girls should be ND they're less annoying and serious.
>>541708958>paige has melee spirit scaling>get cold clocked for 1k midair after an ult
>>541708719infernigger
>>541709064it's such an abysmal amount that there is actually no reason to build punch paige, it's the biggest bait in the game
>>541708719Abrams. Just never melee with how common parry cheats are at that rank.
>>541709294I've been playing a lot of gun Abrams and it is inferior to melee one purely because how long it takes to become online and useless you are anyway
I only play Kelvin.
90% of my games are on Ivy.
>>541709079>>541709294You have any heroes that AREN'T negroes?
>>541709708die
>>541709831Kelvin.
>>541709708>>541709794for your safety please keep this information to yourselves...
>>541709831He literally just suggested Abrams are you stupid
>>541709831Abrams is white coded but I geuss you could play mina or viktor.
>>541709831Warden
>>541710020How can I carry with Victor on current patch?
>>541710020>Abrams is white codedhe's voiced by a polynesian
>>541710117spirit lifesteal
>>541710239Polynesians are not black, learn your racism retard
>>541710510they're not white either...
>>541709876t. haze player
There is nothing wrong with cool nigger characters like Infernus.
>>541710117this current patch actually makes him better earlier and midgame, so you can snowball with victor because comeback mechanics are nonexistent
>>541709294>Charge into wall>get guaranteed hit (half health with crusher)>surge of power on 1>gun/spirit power till they are dead baiting parryezpz
>>541710881yeah that's the only time you melee, when they are stunned or if they whiff parry.
>>541710546Yeah and Abrams is literally blue, can you recognise color blue?>>541710759Nah fuck nigfernus and fuck his dogshit onhit effect bs>hey guys lets design a hero for a brand new game>oh I know, how about something original>like deal more damage while you're dealing damageSo DEI prime was in the oven for about 7 years and thats what they came out with? Clowns
>>541711064Even if you fake and get a parry hold, with the amount of healing you get from 1 it's still insane. Combined with cooldown you'll get another shoulder charge if they aren't dead yet.
>>541711132There is nothing DEI in cool nigger characters.Blade was cool before all this culture wars bullshit. I can name a few other cool niggers like Demoman and others. Just fuck off with your DEI seething and let me enjoy my cool niggers in peace.
victor’s 3 should restrict movement-based abilities and dashestotal movementnigger death
>>541711705that's the only counterplay to him though?
>>541711705your slowing hex? your spirit slow?
>>541711756the counterplay is positioning, antiheal, and spirit resist thougheverbeit
>>541707918drifter is the only character that wants to get close to people and also gets literally no benefits from it besides "your 1 now does real damage now" so yeah figuresstill fun as fuck though
>>541711892>antihealread what his 2 does, the only real counter to a fed victor is curse.
>>541711705Kelvin's beam should disarm againtotal gunnigger death
>>541704169>>541705514>>541705752I think it would be better if Sinclair was more of a puppet looking doll and had Savannah & Henry as spirits bickering in the back.
>>541711886I buy mystic slow, but I want to make the game unplayable for mina and lash players
>>541712076your curse???!
>>541711705Haze's 4 should instantly stun anyone that takes damage for it
>>541712004>also gets literally no benefits from itaside from being able to hit them, i meanfeels like a design that is making up for the ult being mega busted in coordinated play
>>541712010>beam use to disarm>dome use to disarmholy shit what the FUCK were they thinking with this guys kit?
>>541712008crippling headshot, healbane, toxic bullets are reapplied in a second THO>>541712141if you’re buying that on victor gg kekhe’s like the most slotlocked hero
ffs nerf rejuv. It's an auto-game winner.
>>541711573this post is so embarrassing lmao gas all racists now
>>541712647good, there should be a good way to finish the game
i hope when i wake up tomorrow they replace every "m1 deals more damage" passive with something that's at least a little more interesting
>play miku gunnis>fight a Mirage with comparable souls>I unload an entire mag into his face >not even 1/3rd of his hp is gone>he slowly turns around while I am reloading and instagibs meI have a feeling the build I am using is not very good
>>541712647They should just change the pit to be shaped more like the old one. I remember it use to be constantly stolen and now it feels nearly guaranteed.
I got to play Drifter a few times yesterday. I grabbed some builds and all of them had me juggling like 3 active items I had to press at key times for each engagement. Why? I ended up just going with the default gun build in my following games and winning.
>>541712815mcginnis gun damage is a meme. mirage also has lots of temporary bullet resist debuff, easily getting to -45%, so he can fuck you up
>>541712815sounds like an awful build
>>541712926so, turrets are a meme, her gun is a memeis she literally bottom tier?
I buy tormentor pulse on every character because I can't aim.
>>541713048king
>>541713042her wall is good, she's just not going to do damage like haze or infernus, so you have to build tanky and try to 'control' an area with clever turret placement instead of out in the open. You'll kill supports with your gun damage, and if you heroic aura in the middle of a fight with 3-4 turrets, you'll probably win
Just watched Lief's vid on wallboosting and I have no fucking idea what's going on. How the fuck do you wall jump but continue to go straight? Just tried it for 10 minutes straight I don't understand
>>541713048I think drifter with tormentor pulse and CDR is kinda scary
>doorman abrahms wraith seven dynamo mo>get stunlocked the entire gamehow the fuck do you even counter this? I couldn't play the game even with unstoppable because it runs out. characters without stuns should just do 20% more damage baseline on every ability.
>>541713176the turret damage is good in theory, but the turret farm gets deleted by literally any single AoE cast lategame>>541713305macro exploits
>>541713368debuff resist bruh
>>541713176heroic aura with drums is kind of funny thoughyou literally go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT like a GAU-30
>>541713368get debuff remover instead and vampiric burst if gunif spirit go ethereal shift OR you could also try cheat death. But really there's nothing you as a solo player can stop that. It's up to your team to punish them for stunlocking you the whole time (as long as you have some defensive items so it isnt easy to burst you). You could ask for shield items or rescue beams too.
>>541712647I think rejuv buff should stay the same but the actual boss himself should do more damage, it's annoying trying to punish the enemy for doing it while they are all full HP because it doesn't do any damage to them
How do you feel about moves that lock you in/guarantee you to be hit afterwards? Think of something like Bebop hook. Once you're hit, you are fucked. There is no way to skillfully do anything about the fact you got hooked, you just have to eat shit and die most of the time. Yeah you can dodge the hook overall, but not always, no one is perfect.Or Abrams 2, the charge which guarantees you will be hit by a melee after. There is straight up no items, souls, parry, anything you can do about once you're hit. It sucks IMO. Yeah you can argue the winning move is to not get hit, but things just don't work that way all the time. Yeah I'm being punished enough as it is being out positioned, damaged, stunned, and forced into CQC with him; he really needs a free heavy melee too (which will proc all melee items he's guaranteed to have, etc).It sucks so much because there's other characters that don't have these kinds of "gotcha" moves at all and you CAN dodge them by skill/gameplay and not just be to forced to eat 2 bombs, an uppercut (which also locks your movement), and probably getting shit on by the lazer too.
>>541713851The boss should be whapping them out of pit with a shaking attack. Roshan throws people in dota 2 now
>>541713943they balanced his charge by making him fuck huge with loud as hell footsteps
>>541713943They're required to be in the game otherwise it's boring and movespeed/mobility spells are the only thing that matters. Nobody would die. You can scroll up and read what I read to the other guy complaining about stuns how to itemize against it
>>541713954Midboss arena needs another redesignthe one back when we had 4 lanes was better
>>541714110I really miss the big mausoleum in the center
My Seven does no damage, any build advice?
Four, Seven's younger brotherLightning ghost kamikaze surprise attackSummons a ghost on an enemy that blows up and does area damage every few seconds for a while, like a dotGhost ArenaAfter a delay, creates an impassable circle for enemies only - with a roofGet back here cuckTargets an enemy, with LONG range, and teleports them back to where they were 6 seconds ago. Haunt Smoke GrenadeInstantly explodes an area with ghosts silencing and dealing increasing damage in an aoe over time, leaving the haunt zone stops the silence.
guess the hero
>>541707859I don't think the dogshit gook br with triple digit playercounts was a major inspiration when designing sinclair
>>541714323Disruptor
>>541714225same, though a sewer is more fitting location.
>>541714337I used pretty much this exact build as Infernus like 2 games ago, so yeah Infernus.
>entire team of single target ults vs entire team of teamfight ultsi keep getting matches like this and it literally always ends up that the teamfight ults win, without failfucking hell give us draft
>>541714337there is no way a human being bought these items for any hero
>>541714337se7en
>>541713943It's already insanely hard to catch people in this game. The way some of you talk you just never want to die after misplaying.
>>541714110I think the problem is it takes too long to get to, but the pit itself is too open. It takes too long to respond to taking midboss and even if you do, the team taking midboss can easily keep 1-2 heroes out of the pit to cover.
Give me a Seven build recommendation please
>>541714337perma ult warden
>>541714603>>541714640exactly>>541714704>>541714767
>>541714323Faceless ManFaceless punch - faceless man's attacks have a 50% chance to reflect parries, and can power up his next melee attack to stun and bypass parries. Faceless feet - Faceless man walks through the time, undoing the damage he took and fast forwarding Faceless idea - Faceless man spreads a mental virus that adds 4 seconds to all cooldowns, and increases cooldowns when they use an ability. slows. Faceless time stop - faceless man stops time in a cube shaped area, even allies. Bullets cannot enter or be fired inside faceless time. Faceless man's faceless punch and faceless feet are always active in faceless stopped time.
>>541714813Isn't this the build they use for night shift? support haze is good af
Viscous should have an ability to summons a bunch of little good niggas who spit at you
>>541714930no retard niggathat one has silence wave and veilwalker but no echo shart to line up ganks
>>541714930yeah its good af
>>541710604ok and what do indians look like? yeah thats what I thought.
>>541714930>support Haze I know the "pros" are always coked out of their minds but what the fuck is the theory behind itplease explain to my Initiate brain
>>541715087haze has the only ranged instant stun in the game
>>541714342>nuke>bunnymorph >throw out an object you can switch places withYea surely not. ERBS was unironically populated by league/dota pros it only maintained a small community but very much was a popular niche game among moba players.
>>541712857>I remember it use to be constantly stolenYeah, because one heavy melee set your team up. Whereas now you don't get shit and it's suicidal just to sac for one steal which you'll immediately lose afterwards anyway. In its current state rejuv has no business reviving more than two people.
>>541715201>buy a 3200 soul itemnow what?
my vyper is standing still to shoot towers
bebop is such a retarded fucking braindead hero, im so tired of seeing him
>>541715542retard
>>541715542agreedI had like only 40% at the end of the game and still somehow ended up top player damage
>>541715398counterspell? the sleep knife isn't something that easy to time and parry, especially since she can use it while invisible with veilwalker/smokebombdebuff remover/reducer will work though, but you'll still be stunned for some duration.
I was the first person to ever do the echo shard seven stun build a year ago btw. I was only archon or some shitter rank but everyone else started copying it 1-2 weeks later.>>541714110>>541714730yeah it does need the extra one way tunnels from spawn like they had before
I love this game but rank decay is somewhat frustrating and not fun to engage with. It was sort of fun at first being able to stomp my way up the ladder but the higher you get it starts switching from "who has the better smurf" to "which team is less retarded," which in turn forces me to pick a hyper-carry most of the time like Infernus or Haze. My teams are so clueless it's incredible, I had a game thrown a couple days ago where everyone listened to a 3-10 Billy calling to defend urn while they had rejuv and I kept trying to tell them that this was retarded but they wouldn't listen. I just lost another game due to a similar team play and I don't get it, I can't carry this level of retardation, I've lost multiple games recently maxing out my stats doing the best in the game and I'm sick of playing these nigger brained heroes just to lose due to paid Mossad agents on my team. I hope they fix matchmaking.>inb4 durr caring about W/LI hope you enjoy eating your wife's bull's cum out of her pussy, but that's not for me.
>>541715582yeah yeah just buy debuff remover, it doesnt make hook less op, or his ult less powerful early
>>541715087>>541714930remember when people would play Support Riki for literally the exact same reason (sleep dart)
>>541715915you can parry hook on reaction at any range where hook is actually OP and not just any other stun move
Priest when?
>>541715876>first person to ever do the echo shard seven stun build>ranks were a thingimplying
uh oh melty in an alpha
>>541715915You really are a retard, what you need is a counterspell
>>541716226On the birthday of Yeshua ben Nazereth.
>max range bebop>shoot hook at seven>miss>goes through building>GOTTEM>oh shit>its dynamo>game losing singularity
they just won't stop queueing up as heroes they're not good at
I have learned a valuable lesson when it comes to hp management in lane. I'd rather let my retarded teammate die than risk going to double digit life trying to save him and throwing the lane.
>>541716659one death means nothing in the lane, two deaths means everything. meditate on this
>push a lane>4 on me>farm jungle>4 on me>gank someone>4 on me>team is jungling/doing literally nothing every timeAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>541716791>tfw you find a retard thats basically a slot machine on the enemy team snd you have to race against your team for it
>>541716385An alpha with 10k prize pool tournaments, sure thing xister!
>it's a yamato does nothing but dive and if you try to back her up you die episodestop you fucking retard, SPAM YOUR FUCKING SWORD HOLY SHIT
>>541717231いいえ
Do you guys actively wallboost?
i fucking hate everything about Victor. his voice, his animations, his lore, everything. It's so retarded
>>541716790What are some other Deadlock trvth nvkes I need to know?
>>541716359I wasnt implying anything I directly stated it you buzzword nig
>>541717863thermotrvklear bomb: lady geist rapes shotas
>>541717863if you're losing your lane but your team is winning every other one then just let it fall. two out of three isn't bad
Alright guys, what do you think of my idea??? Gravity Man1. Graviton -> Target is forced to the ground, immune to displacement effects(singularity, grab, lash), and cannot be lifted no matter what. This can be cast on enemies and allies. short duration, but doubles when reapplied. stacks.2. The hand -> Parabolic arc in front of him, removes all static AOEs, buffs and debuffs, and any projectiles between the area and gravity man. Deals damage with chaining explosions along the arc's edge, getting hit by multiple explosions deals exponential damage. 3. Anti-grav aray -> multi charge ability that creates large cylinders where jump height is quadrupled for anyone, and has no stamina cost for jumping or dashing mid air. If a target with graviton is affected by this, it turns the cylinder into a massive explosion. 4. Mass Drive -> Aimed. Charges briefly before melee striking across space time(global), applying a melee strike and graviton to any enemies hit, even through walls.
HELP HOW DO I DO DAMAGE AS SEVEN WHAT'S A BUILD I CAN DO
haven't played this game in about a year, is gun pocket a thing or do I have to still just spirit nuke and hope nobody buys resists
>>541719024random shit slapped together/10it's perfect
>be paradox>TIME hero>has one (1) time related ability
>>541719336time bomb (get it)time wall (it stops bullets)carbine (it stores a bunch of bullets into one big bullet, through time magic)swap (who the fuck knows)
>>541719336two
>>541719205I should spam this guy and flubber some day.
>>541717863Warden is best built around his root
>>541717863Most top builds are dogshit that are upvoted by discord groups
>>541719205are you a fellow beam maxxer?
>>541717863balance is difficult because it would assume each character/play style attracts similar skill levels but broken things stay undiscovered because low skill players gravitate to certain characters
>>541719336>>541719431I thought the joke with her grenade is that she's replaying the explosion over and overthe swap is just a spacial power instead of a time power but in physics the two are related so fuck it
>>541719029Can I get any help with this?
>>541719751ring of repick
>>541719029sevens bad now
>>541719205How? I spam kelvin but im not very good and wanna know how to get better
>>541719664Yes.I also buy tormentors pulse.
>>541719801>>541719781Why?Should I go support Seven then?I thought I just went from doing well to playing bad
>>541719801So I may finally play him.
>>541719881outclassed by wraith and infernusanyways just buy boundless spirit and infuser, then push infuser and ult
>>541719858kelvin is more of a supportive role. you harass enemies in the early to mid game and help your carries in the late gameI found him to be very weak in my low ranks because allies never capitalize on weakened enemies.
what's in the updateso sick of them not posting changelogs so fucking sick of this
The game is so fucking easy when you warden root holy fuck. Nobody gets away. People can actually do damage with their shit aim. Clear target priority for monkeys
>>541720045>kelvin is more of a supportive role.Fuck anyone who thinks that lmaoKelvin is basically Leshrack with heals, I don't know how to explain it better.You beam max and Chad Thudrercock into enemies with dome and spirit lifesteal.
>>541720045>I found him to be very weak in my low ranks because allies never capitalize on weakened enemies.Did you build gun Kelvin until you got more human teammates?
any victor gamers have any advice on how to build him? I wanna pick him up now with his new changes
>get ally sinclair three times in a row>immediately lose, he does absolutely nothing beyond laningstop playing this hero
>>541717863most of the original heros are OP because they're based around landing their full combo for a kill (pocket, paradox). you can pubstomp when you just base your gameplan around their cooldowns
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>>541719881gets turbofucked by capacitor unironically anyone who cries about him is genuinely ass at the game