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Hero Babs Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-02-2025-update.84332/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>541597223
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FIRST!
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I want a deadlock gf(true female)
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Valve should add a white evropean vampire to deadlock.
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It's that easy
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>>541676009
No you don't. Playing games like these with women is always bound to be a disaster because they're usually terrible. If you play on your main, you'll always get stomped, and if you smurf, you'll stomp every game and at that point you may as well not play.
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Us ultrawideCHADGODWARRIORPOETKINGs just can't stop winning.
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>>541676023
I agree and I support another jailbait vampire so we may have quality yuri.
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>>541675815
To continue the topic of Hero Labs heroes, Fathom, formerly Slork, is definitely coming back since all the new heroes have the "keep on slorking" line.
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>>541676023
Do we really need 3 vampires?
I'd rather get like, a werewolf or something.
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>>541676280
yurifags are pathetic
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I had an exceptionally awful day of wagecucking today
I have a feeling that if I play Deadlock I will legitimately kill myself
>>541676023
what sort of vamp would s(he) be
we got the goth gf Toreador
we got the hobomaxxing Gangrel
>>541676416
silence, furry
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>>541676416
we don't need more furshit. we need a gnome.
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>>541676113
Sounds like a good opportunity to learn some real life skills like communication, prioritisation and social interactions in general.
>they're usually terrible
So no different than average soloQ team, but at least won't screech at you in thick accent after any minor inconvenience.
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>>541676765
I prioritize playing games my girlfriend actually likes with her, like stardew valley and animal crossing and shit
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>>541676673
NTA but maybe a necromancer lasombra type chick would fit the bill. obviously the touhou poster just wants pedo maid shit
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I'm at the barely keeping up with the pack in souls and not egregiously feeding stage. A few times a game I get a play like disabling somebody important but I still mostly feel like I'm getting carried most of the time.
Whats the next step of getting good?
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>>541676023
>>541676280
Valve should ip track every animenigger and furry and hire assassins for them
>>541676709
Shut the fuck up, manletfags and their reddit humor dont apply
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We need separate que for girls like chess has
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>>541676929
>reddit humor

it's a valve game
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>>541676673
>>541676709
"but da furries" is a retarded reason to avoid wanting a werewolf when the entire game is filled with monsters.
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>>541676875
Does she play something you like?
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>>541676528
I just like seeing girls having sex, I could careless about 'ships.
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>>541677059
werewolf is such a token pick it's not really worth asking for. any hero with a transformation ult is gonna be a werewolf
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>>541677010
Thats genius, real women will still play normal queue (no mic) but at least we'll have a troon containment zone.
>>541677029
Its not tf2
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>>541677059
The real monsters in this game are humans
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>>541677067
we've played through nearly every single monster hunter game
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>>541676071
>accidentally trying to zip = death
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>>541677174
It'll probably happen eventually, sure, but it's kinda weird that there isn't one yet.
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>>541677272
Even old ones? Yeah I think she's ready for a marriage.
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>>541677337
Shiv was supposed to be one but thankfully he wasn't a wolf but some kind of gorilla instead
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>>541677272
if that's true then you should pump some babies in her, unless you're a pussy
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Billy was added for parry enjoyers to torment
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>>541676071
Why are victor players always so based?
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>>541676416
We can have as many vampires in this games as possible.
>>541676929
Valve would die if they murked their most loyal customers.
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The ultimate power move would be dropping a skeleton hero to get banned in china
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>>541677847
Why are all animeshits so ugly and disfigured, anime artstyle can be done well but I've never seen a good example in this general. Do only shit taste animeniggers lurk here or what
>>541677752
Because much like Voctor they had to go through suffering of the previous nerfs and pain builds character
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What are good green items for Grey Talon?
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>>541678189
ring of repick
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>>541678189
endururingu speedu
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>>541678189
>he needs green as GT
just sit back at 800m and fire your AWP and FPV drones
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>>541677980
That shit is so fucking funny because literally no young chinese cares about it but the ancient people in their censer bureau.
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>>541677980
Valve have removed skeletons from item art already, its over
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>>541678360
Huh?
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>>541678189
Reactive barrier to counter the knockdown buyers
Rescue beam to yoink your teammates
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>>541677702
>seven doesn't even say thank you for getting his ass saved
>seven losing while at 43k against a 27k Billy
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>>541678189
battle vest like everyone else this patch
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>>541678647
"I ALMOST HAD HIM" "GET OUT MY WAY, I HAVE CAMPS TO FARM"
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I have a job interview today and last night I guess I had a stress dream because I dreamt they released crossplay with consoles and gutted movement even more.
I remember there being a giant beetle hero that had an interesting passive. A small passively regenerating barrier that gave you the spellbreaker buff when it was up, so the idea was you had to peel the small barrier off before you nuked him.
There was also a McGinnis reskin that made a mob of illusions so you weren't sure which one was the real one to shoot.
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>>541678360
What?
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now that Mina has a unique alt-fire ability, what would you add to the other heroes?

>holding M2 on Abrams causes him to hunch down and cover his face with the book, granting a 30% chance to negate damage but slowing his movement speed by 30%, also disabling his gun
>Ivy does a high jump with her wings but it costs 1 stamina
>Lash flexes his biceps for a moment to slightly boost his next attack but is locked in the animation, the buff lasts 5 seconds
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When should we start inhousing fellows?
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>>541678869
Last night I had a stress dream that Kelvin now had Mina's abilities in addition to his own so he was hitting me with Rake inside his dome for like 800 damage and I was down 1/23.
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>>541679019
>Abrams
20m blink to wherever you're aiming, no cooldown and instant
>Mo & Krill
40m blink to whatever hero you're aiming at, instant and no cooldown
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>>541678869
>more interesting passive than you do le spirit dmg when you m1!!
Yoshi mogged by literal wagie dreams
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>>541679019
>ivy
new M2 kicks the ivy player in the balls irl
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Post hero ideas
>Oil magnate who used magic to give himself dual gold/oil midas touch promptly before magic permanently cratered the value of gold/oil, participates in the ritual not to remove the midas curse but change it into soul touch
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>>541679019
yoshi, hire this man
he's just as bad at it as you are
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>ideas guy
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where is my delicious brown female occultist
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>>541678647
if seven goes spirit meme build he's pretty hopeless in a 1v1 without resorting to ult
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>>541679568
wraith is right there
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inhouse when????
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>>541679435
I'm sorry, anon. I didn't mean to interrupt your tier list gooning sesh
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>>541678151
>Why are all animeshits so ugly and disfigured
anonchama, this IS the 3DCG anime artstyle and has been so for decades
>anime artstyle can be done well
yes, and all paintings look the same, all statues look the same, and all books are written in the same style
tasteless nigger
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>>541679019
>Abrams holds the book projecting a barrier that scales with his health and protects those who stand behind it
boom, OVERAIDS barrier cancer added to deadlocc. No need to thank me.
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>>541679307
Doughboy that's just a skeleton
bone puns in every 2nd voiceline are mandatory
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>>541679813
We already have cancer barrier with Paradox.
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>>541678869
>giant beetle hero
>small passively regenerating barrier that gave you the spellbreaker buff when it was up
damn that's pretty cool
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>>541676673
>what sort of vamp would s(he) be
>we got the goth gf Toreador
>we got the hobomaxxing Gangrel
can we get a schizo malkavian
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>>541679779
>touhou player berating people for taste

LMAOOOOOOO
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>>541679779
Animenigger has no reading comprehension, thats what watching too much soulless waifufaggotry does to your brain, SAD
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>>541679882
so, more furries
gotcha
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>>541679989
too based - even if we are missing a hero that is properly batshit insane
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>>541679989
yea, other archetypes are schizo malk, nosferatu...idk, detective maybe? and finally maybe a necromancer clan type.
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>>541678510
>>541678969
My bad I should have specified ''from SOME art'', like Cheat Death or Toxic Bullets. Don't let Valve see these, we must protect mr. Skelton.
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>>541679989
>malkavian's schizo ramblings
by modern standards that's reddit humor
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>>541680050
>skelly man
>furry
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>>541679989
Blood mage Termere vampire.
Would play.
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>>541679019
>Lash flexes his biceps for a moment to slightly boost his next attack but is locked in the animation, the buff lasts 5 seconds
Based idea.
>parry
>strike a pose
>kill a guy
>write ''?'' in all chat
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>>541680237
I'd rather have reddit humor (gnomes, fish malk) over more furry stuff desu
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>>541680347
I feel like this game could benefit from TF2 style death cams
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>>541680347
just the amount of butthurt it would generate alone makes it worth it
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>>541680337
Geist. Go play her now.
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ah, fuck
we still don't have taunts in this game
no wonder I felt something was missing
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>>541680576
your hats bro?
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>>541680460
>I feel like this game could benefit from TF2 style death cams
That would be so sick. I hope they add emotes and shit, hopefully that would casualise some things. Hard to be a sweat when you can press your dedicated "flip off" button on Billy
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>>541679435
Unironically the new meta in ai sloppa land

Ideas guys will vibe code the future
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>>541680631
there's a fair bit of material datamined about skins, so they are 100% coming (probably in the full release which will happen in roughly 5 years)
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>>541680460
We need a proximity chat too, and open post game all chat
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I like colossus on Viktor idk why more people dont build it
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>>541680758
>(probably in the full release which will happen in roughly 5 years)
Dota only just left beta
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>quick goon session
>posts
>a fucking naked DRIFTER appears

end yourselves bara fags
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>>541680446
Gnomes aren't reddit humor they're horrifying fae folk that can twist your head off or curse you for 1000 years because you were rude enough to call them mister instead of sir or ate your porridge with your left hand
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>>541680186
Cheat Death still has a skull on it.
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>>541680717
>saar we the future
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>>541680852
I agree, and they are more or less a unique rep for deadlock. you'll still get people screeching about reddit though.
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>>541680824
>Drifter ganked Anon in the r34 jungle
absurdly based
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>>541679779
YWNBAW
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>>541680576
Lash should have 80 different taunt animations and voice lines
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>>541680446
Fish folk could work if thats a straight up ugly Innsmouth fishman and thats it.
>>541680852
Reality:
>haha guys did I hear A ROCK AND STONE
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>>541677980
>>541678308
>>541678510
>>541678969
>>541680186
>>541680870
It's about qauntity and type. A jawless skull doesn't seem to be an issue but depictions of skeletons (like the Grim Reaper) is a big no no. Too many skulls is also bad. So that might be why they reduced it
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>add taunts and death cams
>pros start complaining about "tilt" mechanics
you know it's coming
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we definitely need kill count items so I can count how many ivy players I kill
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>>541679670
I literally asked in this very thread what time you want it to be and you didn't respond!!!!!1
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>>541680965
kekd
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How is this for a Grey Talon build?
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>>541681064
>professional at a game that's not even out yet
>professional in a super complex game where your entire skillset can get invalided by a single number adjustment (see removal of infinite walljump abuse)
shiggy diggy
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>>541680576
>no taunts
>no hats
>no unusuals
>no "dominated" and "revenge" voice lines
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>>541681169
infernus players killed
calico players killed
haze players killed
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>>541681064
They put a 2 minute cooldown on Dota 2 taunts because of this shit man
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>>541681064
They better add tips and sprays too. What other salt inducing mechanics are there?
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>>541681064
>suicide dive walker to finish someone off
>hit my "flex" taunt as the entire enemy team decend upon me
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>>541681489
Lash grindset
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>>541679435
Yoshi literally is an idea guy.
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>>541681437
Having 3 pauses per player per game instead of 3 per team per game
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>>541681418
Fuck unusuals, its a bait for botnetting subhumans
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>>541681429
wow that's dogshit
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>>541681179
how about now tardGOD
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>>541681536
Yoshi is Icefrog
he's a bit more than an 'ideas guy'
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>>541680050
>skeleton man
>spawns skull lasers around him that target enemies
>warp stone but an ability
>bones that damage you if you move through them, but not if you stand still
>mass gravity warp that deals extra damage if there's a ceiling
sounds great put him in icefrog
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SK should still be a skeleton.
Victor should have been a Skeleton.
Prove me wrong.
ProTip: you can't.
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>>541681536
He was literally the main map developer and programmer for the Dota WC3 mod after he managed to get control of the map off of that one cunt
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>>541681429
There are still tips and all chat wheels. Also taunt spam was annoying af and taunts which change the direction you're facing should lock the hero in one spot anyway.
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>>541681673
That just proves my point even more.

Icefraud is the penultimate idea guy.
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>>541681834
then who's the ultimate idea guy?
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>>541681990
(You)
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Okay post taunt ideas

Geist doing the ojou-sama laugh
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>"MONSTER KILL"
>*PAUSE TICKDOWN*
>*INVOKER LAUGH X3*
>*UNPAUSE TICKDOWN*
>"UNSTOPPABLE"
LolBabs have no idea what they are missing.
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>>541681712
Frankenstein's monster is cooler.
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>>541682083
Abrams better get an ''Oldest trick in the book'' chatwheel
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>>541682083
bebop doing an air wank and calling you a wanker and then shooting a laster out of the air wank that does 2k dps if you get near him
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>>541681990
me...and I do it for free
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>>541681712
>SK should still be a skeleton.
...when his ult is on cooldown after a revive...
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>>541681990
I am. My ideas are superior and have even got added to the game.
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>>541682083
Billy looking up and telling (You) to uninstall the game
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>>541682083
Infernus should get TF2 Heavy's finger gun taunt
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>>541682153
>why am I surrounded by such peons
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>>541682083
someone telling Vindicta to "hang in there" after a kill
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>>541682083
geist stomping on my penis and laughing about how pathetic i am
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>>541682358
you're in charge of the game yoshi it doesn't count
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>>541682083
Mina spitting.
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>>541682083
Mina acting like a mesugaki
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There will never be a faster match.
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>>541681318
I dont play him but I imagine you dont actually want the flat spirit items because he gets free spirit. Boundless is fine super late game for the %modifier
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>>541682737
now post lobby rank
>inb4 seeker 1
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>>541682083
I wish Holliday would have a different 3 because a gun spinning taunt would fit her much better if she had a more gun slinger like ability. A build in headshot booster is Zzzzzzzzzzz
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>>541682879
It's seeker 1
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>>541682890
people have been asking for that for a year, it's probably not happening. if we're still getting a new gunslinger hero then they would likely have it
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>>541682890
they better add a taunt she she goes full Revolver Ocelot
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>>541682957
that's personal skill rating
you can enable match skill rating in options
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>>541681609
No need to be rude fella damn

Inhouse code
7ZFM1
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>>541682890
holiday is just such a collossal failure of a gunslinger hero; jump pads are cool I geuss.
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>>541682737
>Bebop at 3k
was he AFK the entire game or something?
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>>541683132
well in that case it's initiate *

>>541683217
he quit after we took 2 walkers really early on
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>>541683217
i imagine he left
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IT'S TIME TO BE USELESS.
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is uninstalling the play here
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>>541682317
That would be great too. Would give a clear visual indicator on his damage buff being active too now that it's a thing.
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>>541683483
play more Doorman
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>>541683483
Take a 3-4 days break and play a new hero afterwards.
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what is to be done about the win lane > win game hypercarry menace, anons? I have a gut feeling that the problem is in great part exarcerbated by the bonus investment from gun/spirit/survival items and how long it takes to kill people with more boons than you (since with how small the map is, it makes it easy to rotate to save your teammate as they retreat unless they really overextended), but i'm not sure if making kills faster and items do less would be good for the game overall (since the team that is ahead would also benefit from that). I also feel having important objectives like urn and sinners sacrifice be so exposed makes it difficult to respond to enemy attempts to take them, and the juiciest jungle creeps being more near base (as well as kind of weak, overalll) makes it way too easy for m1 carries with innate damage steroids to take them without any risk. Dota's best camps tend to be in dangerous spots for a reason. Maybe they should bring in jungle stacks? Make cutting the lane easier?
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>>541683597
his flesh could also slowly grow back as the ult comes online.
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>>541683736
That would be very cool, actually.
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>>541682870
He gets five spirit per lasthit on his ultimate dude, it's fucking nothing
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marge i'm gonna play my first game of drifter when i get home what build do i use to rape
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>gun is so broken this patch the best ivy build is stil gun despite losing a third of its power

jej
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will the 3i atlas aliens let us play deadlock after they arrive?
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>>541683640
give people more time to figure out the game and not let the carry freefarm
more heroes like Drifter to punish greedy T3 farming
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>>541683908
"local vampire bullies children" is a good one
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>>541679151
kek
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Do you grab cdr and expansion as gun ivy?
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>Buff OBJ health
>Slow Wave advancement
>Put high Soul Camps in dangerous spots
>Wards/camp stacking
>Allow wave manipulation such as pulling and blocking
>Allow friendly fire from m1 on low hp allies to deny as well as friendly fire on own creeps for wave management
What else?
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>>541684378
is this a list of shit to not put in the game?
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>>541684378
I could see wards being cool, but they wont see pub use unless they are free.
They are free in dota and still some people wont buy them.
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>>541684378
>>Allow friendly fire from m1 on low hp allies to deny as well as friendly fire on own creeps for wave management
imagine having your kill bodyblocked by your own creeps
are you fucking retarded?
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>>541684378
some of those are good ideas but collision with creeps and friendly fire sound absolutely retarded
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>>541684507
>Pubs won't buy them
That's fine, they are for high ranks or LANs not the plebs.
>>541684534
overpen for this specific instance. it would also only apply when the creep hp is way less than half.
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>>541684378
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3/12 for inhouse so far

7ZFM1
7ZFM1
7ZFM1
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>>541684378
None of those are good ideas, dotashitter.
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>>541684724
>That's fine, they are for high ranks or LANs not the plebs.
Nah it just means that even though you will buy them, more people on the other team will than on yours and you have to play at a disadvantage.
Buying wards is perceived as a support job, even in a game without hard supports.
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>>541684686
fair it likely would not work well in deadlocc but it is worth a try for a patch.
>>541685006
Just buy them yourself then?
>Buying wards is perceived as a support job
They can stay alchemist while you catch people alone or doing objectives. Hell it could be like LoL and just be an 800 soul item you buy once and put vision around the map. Though I'd prefer it to just be a consumable like dota.
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Getting parried should disable your ability to melee for 3 minutes so my retarded teammates stop feeding.
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>>541684883
is vyper unbanned yet
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>>541685267
It wasn't banned to my knowledge...?
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>>541685236
T R V E
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>>541685201
you can hear people a mile away unless they have backstabber, I don't see the point in wards and it would be better off rolled into a unique hero ability imo
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>>541685201
I think wards would end up being better as part of a specific heroes kit built around that.
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>>541685317
the current banned heroes from the inhouses are: vyper, kevin, mina, mo & krill, and gray talon
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>some dotashitter already asked if we are getting a Meepo in Deadlock
¿qué? Have these 'people' ever opened the game or even seen the gameplay???
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>>541685432
Since when??
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>>541685441
>meepo in deadlock
holy aids
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>>541685441
>cntrl + F Meepo
>0 results found
Are you ok?
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>>541683416
At least bebop can press more than 1 skill in a teamfight
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Meepo in deadlock when
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>>541685432
None of those heros are broken thobeit

Mina was rightfully banned when she could ult cheese but now everything is fair game
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>>541685441
discord is that way niggerfella
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>>541685564
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>>541685750
No Meepo ever I'm afraid
But we will get Arc Warden
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I don't think a real micro hero is possible. all of the meepo or meepo adjacent designs in the custom hero forum all sound nonsensical
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>>541685968
>arc warden
sinclair
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>>541685854
>micro hero
>tps
are they retarded? You could *maybe* do invoker but anything with units more complicated than Migu turret would be unplayable. Maybe SK skeletons.
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4/12 Inhouse please wake up americanski

7ZFM1
7ZFM1
7ZFM1
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>>541686165
americans are working
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>>541686165
i just got fired so i have nothing better to do.
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>>541686276
I assumed they were NEETs to be honest
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>>541686076
Nah he's more Rubick.
Arc Warden I think could actually translate over though, but the ult is tricky. His other 3 abilities could easily fit in Deadlock though.
Maybe for the ult duration you could swap limitlessly between you and your clone, and the one you arent controlling shoots and uses abilities when the main one does without putting it on cooldown for the clone
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>>541686165
sorry I am just a Seeker who plays a single game on evenings I don't want to get a prolapse from people with 9k hours
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When are we getting Invoker and Hoodwink heros?
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>>541686119
>You could *maybe* do invoker
personally I see nothing wrong with invoker hero if it's just a piano spell cast
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>>541686359
euros have better welfare/unemployment programs
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>>541686434
>I don't want to get a prolapse from people with 9k hours
There is no such person in the inhouse
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>>541686359
I'm the only NEET and that is because I live in the VSSR.
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I play drifter because he is me IRL.
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>>541686475
they should just port him over 100%
don't change the model or voicelines
"gun" is just slow moving fireballs with infinite mag
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>>541686652
homeless drunk and french?
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>>541686681
Infinite magazine is fucking useless in this game because everybody can slide for it
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>>541686508
It just might be too hard to play with how fast the game is but what do I know I play like a grandpa anyway.
>>541686652
Everytime I see his vantablack hair I think it's a missing texture.
>>541686681
Invoker throws rocks :^)
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>>541686652
the only thing you resemble about Drifter is the smell
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>>541686165
>Victor already taken
Nooooo i wanted to FEED!
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>>541681712
>pugna, lich, and clinkz still exist
Why did they change SK again!?
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>>541685750
Soon, the clones will just have basic agro tether mechanics like they are wow npcs when not being controlled. If one dies they all die, they have a combo stun that puts the target in a button mash QTE(scales with more clones assisting), they have an ability that's basically just counter spell, and a grenade ability. Ultimate draws a line between all clones that does knockup and damage(stacks if you have multiple lines overlap)

Also only has single jump(short legs) but can bounce on each other's heads for more air, each stam bar is unique
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>>541686945
Probably blizzshitware
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>>541686578
I don't know, every time I joined I promptly regretted it because it was just me getting chokeslammed over and over again
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>>541686475
theoretically, what would happen if he fired this
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>>541686945
i always thought it was because of either the chinese or some fuckery with actblizz
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>>541686652
the hottest thing about drifter is his voice
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>>541686945
prob specifcally because it was the one hero the ancient bureaucrat in china's censership bureau knew about because his grandnephew liked playing dota.
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>>541687035
Just unlucky that time
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>>541686962
>if one dies they all die

sounds unplayable and if doorman portals took them months to get trouble shoot, clone npc scripting would be far worse.
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>>541687062
>some fuckery with actblizz
This would make sense since they are still mad about letting dota through their fingers to this day.
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>>541687035
same but i try again once in a while to see if I can at least improve somehow
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>>541687052
It would blow up in his hands
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>>541686701
Louisianian
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>>541687052
I think shotguns are smoothbore, so the accuracy and range would be reduced.
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>>541687236
blizzard turning down icefrog is one of the biggest fuck ups in gaming lol. completely nonsensical. although a blizzard dota 2 would have shit the bed eventually
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>>541686701
I forgot Cajuns speak French.
>>541686839
I had a dream about drifter
He was chasing Paige into a sewer and she vanished. There were 10 or so other drifters in there with alternate colors. They all smelled like shit cause they were in the sewer. Also, they all grabbed the main drifter and took turns raping him. Then the main drifter left the sewers smelling like shit and he had stink lines coming off him.
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>>541687335
>a blizzard dota 2 would have shit the bed eventually
yeah look at the state of all their beloved franchises. I still can't believe they managed to salvage their failed MMO and then promptly ruin it through patches.
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>>541686962
if the clones are autonomous and can shoot it will be the most overpowered piece of shit ever made in a video game
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>>541687178
>sounds unplayable

Just like meepo, sticking to tradition here
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>Drunk Alchemist hero
>Mixes colored potions for utility skills and punches people
>Works like Lash with a Jarate dispenser
Here's your "invoker"
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4 slots left for inhouse
7ZFM1
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>>541687536
They would have like 300xhp honestly thought it would be too weak, they could just scale the dmg down and have them plink for 5 dmg
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>>541687335
>blizzard turning down icefrog is one of the biggest fuck ups
The biggest miracle in gaming.
The biggest bullet dodge in gaming.
Valve isn't perfect but imagining that other reality causes me physical pain
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>>541687793
>300hp
you'd literally die within the 1st minute if you approached the bridge with them just poking
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>>541687623
>voiced by the demoman
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>>541684378
>Wards
I'm not sure why people are asking for these, isn't everything in this game loud as fuck already? If you have headphones on you can hear people doing jungle camps from a couple blocks away. Plus, with how strong movement is and how small the map is i feel like you'd both get your important shit infested with vision ASAP and have a hard ass time contesting it if you are playing from behind. Scan would fit this game better if you want an universal vision mechanic.
>friendly fire on own creeps for wave management
I don't hate the idea of having friendly fire on creeps if they're low HP, but i think the biggest problem with creep waves right now is that it's hard as fuck to contest soul orbs if they have a laser pointer m1 hero and you don't. Meleeing them means you have to tank damage and while you can harass them it's not exactly difficult to just hold position near your tower and plink any heads and soul orbs that poke out. I'd rather have some sort of pulling to help with that desu
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>>541687905
>is actually a black Scottish cyclops
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>>541687803
>pros
>warcraft skins
>cons
>(post would exceed character limit)
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>>541687901
Thats what the micro is for, one gets low and you move him into cover and use another
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>>541688009
because you can place a deep ward on a camp see where the fed haze is and take a fight on the otherside of the map instead of waiting for them to show (if they do at all)
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>>541688084
do they stand still? oops you didn't pay attention for 1 second, you are dead because Mina magdumped it
they follow? Geist in a lane (any AoE spammer really) is now literally, mathematically unwinnable
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Can we get salt as a "gun"?
Just a hero throwing around magical salt or powder?
Surely you can have some garlic spray to kill drifter with aswell.
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7ZFM1
3 slots left for inhouse
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>>541688217
we have these things called ziplines that allow us unprecedented horizontal movement to cover the map as well as 6 players
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>>541688243
Have the meepos burrow underground when they arent being used where they are invulnerable.
Give an ability to call 1 meepo to the one you are controlling so you can setup burrowed meepos as you go
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>>541688243

>stop paying attention and you die
Yes that is how meepo works
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>>541675815
>try hardest to make gun victor work
>lose a lot and it's stressful af to play
>try spirit finally
>win almost every game
the ultimate passive is good but not as good as frontline Victor
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>>541688471
another flaw in this game
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>>541679640
I'm talking about a latina not a black.
>inb4 Ivy
She's a monster girl I want a human.
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>>541688562
Fucking told you
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>>541688562
i always combo vampiric burts with leech
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>>541684378
Fuck wards and fuck you
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>>541679640
wraith is choc, we need caramel.
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>>541688604
>>541688685
one of the arroyos perhaps
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>>541688685
Fuck yeah more brown girls please Valve
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>>541688562
>ultimate passive

Ask me how I know you were playing gun vic wrong
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>>541688685
I like choc and caramel

I need a big tit mod for wraith
and paige
and mina
and geist (bigger)
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>>541688604
wish granted
she is trans and the lore is explicit how it was a dude who changed his gender
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>>541688009
Dota turdies won't be happy unless EVERYTHING from dota is ported over, even the things that don't make sense.
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>>541676071
whats the point of this clip
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>>541688905
pre or post op
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>>541688851
I was building a hybrid, but the slot it requires is too much and had almost no good spikes early because his gun accuracy is too fucking shit. If he had the same accuracy as Infernus he'd be a solid gun character.
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>>541688905
Nothing wrong with breaking in a few bucks mister
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>>541689025
it's magic, dude.
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>>541689098
based i love gock
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at the rate this lobby fills dinner will be ready.
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3 slots left

7ZFM1
7ZFM1
7ZFM1
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>>541688423
damn I won a whole ass pub match and ts still did not fill up
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SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THE DOORMAN!!!!
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>>541685441
>>541685854
>unironically browsing reddit
>and posting some redditor's retarded post here as if anyone gives a shit
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why would I buy slowing hex to stop people teleporting away from me when I can just get silence wave and shut down their entire kit, weaken them to make it easier to kill them, and get better stats
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>>541687623
>Warden throws flask
>catches it midair and drinks it
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>>541689350
Because vortex is more fun for wombo combo
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2 more spots left for inhouse
7ZFM1
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>>541689350
take it one step further and buy focus lens
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need 2 for the inhouse
7ZFM1
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>>541689350
>3200 cost item is better than 1600 cost item

Woah....
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>>541689517
focus lens is a bait item
>6400 get debuff removed
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>>541685854
Did you seriously get btfod on r*ddit of all places and then arrived to cry about it here? Pathetic fucking retard
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Lets get /dlg/'s opinions on some of the current mechanics
>Laning
https://strawpoll.com/BDyNzo2MeyR
>Item Slots
https://strawpoll.com/eJnvVLjeEnv
>Headshots
https://strawpoll.com/jVyG2odMQZ7
>Confirms/Denies
https://strawpoll.com/NPgxebwpKZ2
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>>541689879
But people here don't actually play the game
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is spirit res worth it on victor anymore or should you instead just get whatever the most relevant defense is
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2 more please

7ZFM1
7ZFM1
7ZFM1
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>>541689879
>no option to make headshots/deny MORE impactful

You polls are lolbab coded and functional useless beyond propaganda
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>>541690018
unless you're truly getting bummed by spirit vomit, I don't bother. Sometimes I get items like greater expansion because it has 10% spirit resist.
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>>541690018
Nope, just get whatever res is most relevant or better yet: stack more spirit steal.
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what if they introduced mana but it did literally nothing you just had a mana bar at 100% all the time
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Why would you even play paradox? Want to carbine? Gay talon does it better, harder and faster. Want to swap? (cuck) go play bebop with 60m range hook after an upgrade and 30m base on a low cooldown compared to swap. And don't even mention the shitty wall that you have to waste points you could have used on the grenade to farm, just buy curse on bebop and parashit is literally redundant.
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>>541689879
ip grabber nice try
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>>541690221
because you can do all that at once on a fun hero with tons of utility and damage
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1 slot left for inhouse roughousing

7ZFM1
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>>541690279
Truth is we only play her because she's hot and sounds hot, make heyahoya into a cute girl and paradox will be forgoten, same for beepnigger.
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>>541690221
shes fun.
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Inhouse themesong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbMccIg9sLk
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>>541690392
Speak for yourself then
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choose your heroes already jesus
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>>541688217
Yes, and the winning team would be stupid as fuck not to plant wards on your camps to jump your ass ASAP whenever you start taking your own t3 jungle to try and catch up on farm. Observer wards alone don't make much sense without the full suite of dota vision tools and i can't think of something more annoying than having to deal with shit like billy smoke ganks
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>>541690392
>heyahoya genderbent into Land O'lakes girl (deceased)
make it happen
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>>541690221
she's cute
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>>541690398>>541690279
>>541690458
I agree though, she is fun. Her kit is fun but why does it have no scaling? Her spirit scaling is dogshit and her gun which you would build for carbine does not scale well at all due to being the worst burst fire type in the game, it's down there with the worst guns in the game.
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>about to cum
>inhouse starts
FUCK
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>>541690221
>shitty wall
>ability so broken its been nerfed 15 times and is still strong
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Anyone else in the inhouse wearing a chastity cage?
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I feel like I win way more games when people aren't using their microphones
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How do they make invading more risky? I think a big source of the win lane win game and snowballing comes from stealing the enemy jungle

Maybe they could use elevation? Put the camps up high with ez access from friendly and the enemy has to do some bs parkour
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>>541690678
It's her best ability true, but it's a wall that relies on 2 other skills to make work. Tell me though, why is her swap 20m? while bebop's hook is base 30 with an upgrade to 60?
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>>541690117
>>541690146
thanks gamers. build looking okay y/n? ive been having some pretty good success with it since the patch
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>>541690838
actually yeah they should make it enemy target like vengeful's ult
retarded that you can miss a long CD ultimate that might put you in dangerg when hook exists
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>>541690909
Berserker is bait, go point blank for the slow, metro showed me the light believe it or not
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>>541690838
because paradox swap is much faster, doesn't get caught on allies, and gives her a large heal. paradox also has both a wall and a grenade she can swap you into and a near hitscan laser beam that literally stops you from moving in order to set up swap instead of having to just rawdog it like bebop does outside of point blank uppercut -> hook shit nobody does
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>>541678151
Why are you on fucking 4chan loser
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>>541690838
because her swap is better
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>>541688009
based ryoshuposter
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>>541689350
>why would someone buy a targeted item that cant miss, has a massive distance, slows the target and reduces their dash distance while making themselves faster for half the price
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>>541691050
thats pretty good, i like it. yeah i guess even with an item basically designed for him, point blank still beats out berserker on average most times AND it has the extra movement slow
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>>541691310
does anyone actually buy slowing hex to stop people who are already far away from them? hell no, they buy it when they're fighting someone up close and then whoops my teleport is off cooldown gg almost had me as they lmao 2 city blocks away from you

you're not missing silence wave point blank, and silence wave being a t3 means that even if its more expensive then t2 slowing hex it hits better stat breakpoints and isn't actually that expensive. people splash knockdown or debuff remover all the fucking time for the same price
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>>541689350
FACE ME AND DIE
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Invoker in Deadlock when?
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>>541691564
youre wrong and Im sure youre doing that thing bad players do where youre only thinking about how the items work on the character you play in their ideal scenarios
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>>541688562
How do you get 0 obj damage as haze lmaooooo
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Is it just me or has Ritualist been flooded by cheaters or massive amounts of smurfs?
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>>541691826
Invoker is a pudge tier iconic design
It's criminal that every moba clone has a hook function and none have an invoker function
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>be abrams
>smacking niggas in the enemy base, kill 2
>wraith shoots me and takes like half my life bar
>turn and chud stare at her
>about to shoulder her when she uses ult
>uno reverse and throw curse at her before her ult hits
>pummel her to death with my bare hands because i bait out the parry and you cant silence these fists
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>>541691902
He was literally a dagger build vs Victor. You can guess how it went.
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>>541692034
you just fell off desu
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>>541691864
ok but you've still failed to actually explain what situation slowing hex would be better in outside of preventing infernus from dashing away when hes already 30m away from you aka the only range where missing silence waves bigger then some characters hitbox is reasonable
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>>541692060
Chudface Abrams had more soul honestly
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>>541692170
Even then its HAZE. The invis character that is good at split pushing as Wraith is..like what the actual fuck it makes no sense to me.
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>>541692202
I already told you its advantages over silence wave, Im not interested in crafting imaginary scenarios to convince someone on 4chan which item is better, they are both good depending on who is building them, what the team comps are, etc. keep building silence wave if you want
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>>541681318
Alright, Grey Talon is very different from how I'm used to play. I don't hate him, though, he'll just take getting used to. DEFINITELY needs green items since he is a floating slow-moving target.
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For my victor build I like to combine Infuser, colossus and Phantom strike by about 30k souls
They all have a 30s cooldown so they overlap really well. Makes you unkillable and really hard to kite for 6 seconds
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>another match where the obvious smurf goes 25/0
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>>541692941
>another match where you're still stuck in the monolith of initiate 1.
I feel sorry for those still stuck in that rank.
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How do I stop 'smurfing'? I borrowed my buddies account a year ago and picked up the games basics (also 10 years of dota 2) and I'm on my main account and I'm starting to stomp - is there a way to elect to be higher skilled?
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seven can't kill anything with his ult
they killed him
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Stats for inhouse match?
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>pic vindicta
>do literally nothing all game
>still draw all the agro
>vik carries the game
Easy Game All Me.
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>>541692941
the hunt begins……
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>>541693197
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>>541692936
>colossus
Do not buy +hp items on this hero, you're making your heal less effective and killing yourself faster
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>>541693197
you are not stomping; you are being carried.
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ugh nobody cares you stupid negro
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Need 2 more fellows for inhouse

7ZFM1
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>>541693601
k
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REMOVE DRIFTER ULT FROM THE VIDEO GAME
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who is the most chud coded hero

is it something between warden and grey talon
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>>541693769
its definitely seven or mcginnis
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>>541693752
>DA HUNT BEGINS
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>>541693769
it's gaytalon imo
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>>541693742
LMAO
the truth is that the more you win, the less skilled your teammates actually become. It’s a retarded rank system, so even if you keep winning you will still be stuck with pisslows. Even at the highest MMR, they still put them with people a few ranks below them
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>do nothing but eat shit the entire match
>our Haze who has done nothing but freefarm for 25 minutes has the same amount of souls as I do
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>>541693742
>4/6 counter bomb bebop
>bomb bebop does 100k damage
jesus christ
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I think playing Victor has made me more passive. When I play other heroes I just sit on lane and farm now. I can't tell if this is costing me games or not

I don't even have the most souls most of the time even though I catch waves, do nearby camps and smash boxes. I just don't get it
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1 more
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>>541693742
This was a bot match, wasn't it
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>>541694076
double bombing yourself and landing a hook or rolling in is better than bombing and waiting if they buy shit like spell parry or debuff remover. I also ran focusing lens and went gun after they bought a bunch of spirit resist since I had like 20k souls at one point
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>>541692941
Welcome to the eternal initiate pit, fellow returning player.
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I'm Archon and sometimes i lane against some Eternus/Ascendant dude playing Mina/Mirage/Infernus/Haze and it's just impossible because the guy just has absurd aim. I feel like it's fundamentally impossible for me to have a chance in the lane because if i poke my head out for a microsecond they stack their passive instantly and i lose the trade. It's just a hopeless different in sheer aiming skill
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TAslut pick ALREADY
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TA pick a hero
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>>541694221
the otherside
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JUST GOTTA PUT THE KETTLE ON.
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>>541687052
boom
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READY UP TA ASSASSIN
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>>541694380
its simple
just
>quit your job and become a parasite
>play the game for 14 hours a day
>always be on some sort of stimulant
also if you are older than 25 don't even bother
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>>541694380
If they are instantly shooting your head the moment you peak, you either must have shit movement or they are cheating.
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What kind of gun would an insect hero use
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>>541694910
ovipositor ball plasma gun
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>>541692171
wierder things have happened
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>>541694910
Acid spray from abdomen.
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>>541681418
I was thinking how awesome domination lines would be in this
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>>541692034
Initiate is the smurfland
you probably just got put into a game with someone 4 ranks higher because the MM algorithm is stupid
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>>541695117
how do I see peoples individual rankings? I only see the average.
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>>541694910
An m2 stinger of course
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>>541693446
His 1 heal is %missing hp, so it gets more effective
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Has anyone submitted a mothman hero concept
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Sapphire Flame (Good, Heroic Characters)
Ivy
Infernus
Dynamo
Paige
Kelvin
etc.

Amber Hand (Scheming, Evil Characters)
Drifter
Lady Geist
Mina
Vyper
Seven
etc.

game needs this distinction like dota radiant / dire
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>>541695586
if valve weren't a bunch of faggots it'd be a mothwoman
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headshots are too important even if you don't build headshot boosting items you're basically forced to hit >50% headshots to do meaningful damage which is an absurd barrier in a game with such spastic movement
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Why do people smurf in a game that's not even open to the public?
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Is any hero a hitman? Haze is more like a glowie so idk if she counts.
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Phantom-Eternus update
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>>541691052
I'll keep saying this as I did way back in the release of the game, carbine DOES NOT STUN YOU, you are free to use skills or items such as ethereal shift to completely cuck parashit.
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>>541694910
Another insect (which is also a gun)
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Man the matchmaking system still sucks ass. My last ten games had one whole close match while majority were stomps on either side.
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>>541695838
because they want to win? what a retarded question
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>>541694910
Insects are SMG coded
However a sniper arachnid that could climb up walls would be cool
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>>541695887
I main kelvin and even I thought kelvin didn't need buffs.
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>>541695703
Nah, that will ruin the design
>>541695838
Low T and a fear of failure
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>Muh game was a blowout so the matchmaking is bad
or maybe the game is just fundamentally incapable of producing close games because it's poorly designed, have you considered that?
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>>541695858
calico and vyper
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>>541695887
pocket up players in absolute shambles
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>>541695887
wraith as second highest wr sure is the sign of a healthy meta :)
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>>541695897
Don't think it's matchmaking, people are just terrible at the game so if they start losing they start playing passive which is the opposite of what you're supposed to do. The passive players let the winning team continue outfarming and ganking the people pushing lanes as they sit in the jungle doing nothing.

So basically they need to have a big warning message that says JUNGLING WILL MAKE YOU LOSE IF YOU ARE BEHIND every single game the deficit goes >10k
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>Whenever I get a Ritualist lobby it's fun
>Win or lose
>Some reason get thrown in Alchemist lobby
>It's literal hell on earth
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>>541692941
just got carried smoothly by a wraith player, feels good man.
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>>541696516
Alchemist is the rank that a brand new account is calibrated at bro
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>>541695951
Smurfing is for niggers who want an ego trip
It's the same as doing playing a quiz game for children and acting like you're great for doing well in it
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>>541696639
Nope, I think you literally can't leave initiate any more for the first 50 maybe 100 games
>>541696516
Probably cause youre getting into an average alchemist lobby not just alchemists or seekers. So there might be 2-3 ritualists in the game 2-3 initiates and then a mix of whatever else in the middle. I've seen games with a phantom and alchemist for example they will just average mmrs the higher you go the weirder it gets
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You are reincarnated into the body of Hoopoo, give me your three to five step process to fix Sinclair.
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>>541685441
reddittor nigger I wish you painful death
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>Gun keeps getting buffed
>Except for on Ivy
>She's never allowed to have a good gun
Why?
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>>541694496
I think there's a finnish jew playing vyper
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>>541694910
Make it spit and wipe its mouth-dibles to reload
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>>541696874
>fix sinclair
but he's already pretty good?
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>>541695887
Surprised mirage is still in the trenches, probably because you have dinguses running qsr and 4 fire rate items
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>>541696171
we will overcome this
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>>541697026
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>>541696924
>buffed Wraith and ended up making her just as if not more oppressive than gunivy
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>>541696693
and? they want to win
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>>541696874
Remove his clothes (except the hat)
Widen his hips
Give him tits
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>>541695838
I'm not smurfing. I'm really good at Paige but I keep getting matched with 0/10/1 players on my team that abandon at the ten minute mark, keeping me in alchemist perpetually. Have you considered the other "smurfs" are just people who are good at one hero, but matchmaking keeps raping them into dirt-rank MMR?
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>>541696240
It is unironically, she is peak rat and rat meta is the most balanced moba meta
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>>541684378
I thought the game needed wards but after a few hundred hours I would never want them. The map is so fucking small as is and you can tell where most of the enemy are at any given time based on sound or creep locations.
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You are a huge faggot, do not show up to an inhouse if you're gonna bitch then ragequit.
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permaban that paige ragequitter NOW
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>>541696516
paige's shithole is probably surrounded by cute ginger curls and the thought of that makes my dick twitch
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Gun on mystic characters feels so fucking wrong to play.
I don't care how powerful you get, making your skill buttons do far less damage just sucks.
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I spend many nights thinking about how Infernus should have looked like Ignitia from the dead and forgotten game, Hyper Universe.
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man calico is fun
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Why are support players mentally ill.
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>>541697361
>>541697378
>Paige player is a faggot
Shocked honestly
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>>541697378
if only yoshi added that function in custom matches
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>>541697496
Spoke and sounded just like a redditor to be desu
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>>541697180
thank you for your seeker opinion
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>>541697492
What makes them mental? If they play well they can carry a match.
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6/12 in the lobby still, could hang around and see if we get more going
7ZFM1
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>>541696819
I made an alt and my very first match was alchemist 3.
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>>541695887
>Kelvin gun is too strong! We need to nerf it!
>Takes away a single bullet
>Oh my, that was too much, we should buff his spirit
holy FUCK they're so retarded it hurts
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>>541697496
>>541697361
Wait for the Geist to post a clip of what made him rage quit by the way it's quite funny
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>>541696874
Assistant is a proper illusion unit that mirrors your movement and benefits from heroic aura instead of copying your attacks
casting assistant hides your health bar, and swapping places is hidden from the enemy team
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>>541697631
I have things to do sorry guys, treat sexless nice he's a cool guy
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>>541696924
>keep building gun anyway since they gutted all her abilities
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Here's the impetus of the Paige's rage quit.
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>>541697720
I wasn't gonna play but now I'm joining just to grief that person
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>>541697692
hes also inherently stronger because now he can stick to his gun carry and make sure they never die, even if he wasnt touched his wr would spike on this patch because he could just trap anyone who tries to interact with the M1 player in the retard chamber
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>>541696819
>Probably cause youre getting into an average alchemist lobby
its this. many games ive lost where ive come out of lane with a lead against slightly worse people but still know how to play only to be met by Mr. emisary with 13 kills and 17k souls at 10 mins who ate 2 brand new players with no hands in lane. and its always some shit like drifter or infernus so they just steamroll any fight from that point on
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>>541697765
>solo ults a lone geist
>rage quits when the same happens back
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>>541697765
>Geist has ulti don't follow him
>Noooo we gonna heckin kill him!!!
>Dies
>Has a sook and rage quits
kek
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>>541697765
you didn't have to include parry on mina
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>>541697604
Its objectively true, rats play the objective. When its brool meta its just a shitty hero shooter with lane mechanics that dont matter. When its afk jungle meta its a shitty rpg where only soul optimizing matters. Splitpush meta is actually engaging with the moba mechanisms in a meaningful way
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>>541697935
>picks a support
>doesn't want to play around teammates.
JUST
LIKE
MY
PUBS
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Geist would 100 be sugar mommy for Pocket
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>>541697952
He likes to show off his emissary gameplay to ride the high of when he used to be "good" (abused overpowered bebop)
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>>541697765
>mina and paige the hot normalfag troon characters getting dumpstered on by gilf gal
lmaofao you love to see coomers getting owned
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>>541697765
>retarded unfunny name
>follows geist with ult by herself into small enclosure

this is the caliber of player that ragequits video games

>>541697953
please dont respond to me your opinion is worthless
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>>541698004
It's not even that he just didn't want to listen to my call and had a bitch fit when I was proven right
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>laning
>no one visible on screen but still getting shot
>look up
>sinclair assistant is floating in the air auto shooting me like a turret
what the fuck, it can do both those things?
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>>541697952
It's part of the story.
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>>541698068
I accept your arguementless concession
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but have you considered... Calico?
"nyaa!" *jumps in your face and kills you despite being a total retard*
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>>541698103
yes and the based sinclairs go majestic leap to keep the clone in ac130 angles
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>>541697952
I'm sorry you got CLIPPED but that is just the nature of the game Mina.
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For how long have you played this game?
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>>541698103
Don't you get a little bored of your confused cat image spam schtick
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>>541690221
Literally just wall. That's what's keeping her from being dead everywhere. Just one more holliday buff and even the proplayers will stop picking her.
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>>541698230
355 hours started summer of last year after seeing the umpteenth /v/ thread about it made by the Ivy spammers. I think I have less then 1k games maybe even less then 500.
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>>541698252
you are not built for this website my retarded little nigger, maybe try r*ddit
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7ZFM1
still at just 6/12, if people don't start dripping in soon I'll queue pubs
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Newb question I see people confirming creep drops even with no enemies around, do they not auto count as yours if you ignore them? Have I been missing a shit ton of souls? Also what are the notable spawn timers?
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>>541698252
He doesn't matter, only I do and I am not yet sick of his catspam.
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>>541698252
dont you get bored of being schizophrenic on an anonymous image board
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>Lane with a friend often
>He always eats both hitboxes of the doorman bell
>Complains that i don't do enough as Doorman in lane when i'm playing him because my bells aren't dealing that much damage
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>>541698483
habit probably
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>>541698483
>Newb question I see people confirming creep drops even with no enemies around, do they not auto count as yours if you ignore them? Have I been missing a shit ton of souls? Also what are the notable spawn timers?
It's just to make sure that nobody snipes the souls. The notable spawn timers are 2 minutes for small jungle camps and boxes/statues, 5 minutes for the bridge runes, 8 minutes for the large camps and sinner's machines and 10 minutes for the midboss
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>>541698483
habit/practice or being noided about someone camping for your orbs. but I've also seen souls drop on my screen despite being in range so it's also a bit of assurance in a shit buggy game
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>>541698483
It's like clicking mineral patches in sc. It keeps you mentally in the game and constantly doing mechanics so that when it matters you do it right. Also some cheeky fuck could not be showing and deny them.
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>>541697765
We know he's in this thread. Defend yourself
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Does anyone think that the new map is too dark? It's just fine for me, but I remember hearing someone complain in the voice chat that he can barely see and that it's too dark compared to the old map.
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>>541698876
I play lowest graphics because 'EARLY ALPHA' and the map seems bright as fuck to me.
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>>541697765
there was a moment in this game where I (wraith) ulted you and I was screaming at my abrams to help me kill you while you were silenced and you couldn't swap. You have no idea how fucking mad I was that my abrams that was next to me a second ago had disappeared just when I had you on the ropes
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>>541697616
because if you go full "support" then you're retarded
characters are supposed to damage and not suck a carry's cock the whole game
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Can you pick your lane or is it always random at first?
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>>541699065
You can ask to swap lanes when you've loaded into a game, use the arrows underneath the friendly hero icons
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>>541698876
Nigga I don't give a fuck nigga I'm not yo daddy nigga turn yo brightness up
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>>541698868
he won't players like that unironicly think they are not the issue while being very much the issue. if he had any humility he would just admit he was wrong and keep playing but instead he rq a zero stakes game. KWAB
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>>541699065
it's always random at first, but there is an official feature to request swapping lanes if you hold tab and click on the swap icon under your teammates. they'll have to accept it.
before that, the old fashioned way was just to ask in VC and jump from your line to the other. I still think this way is better because it catches the enemy by surprise and doesn't give them an opportunity to counterswap lanes in response.
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>>541698434
do we has a match ID to the last game?
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7/12 inhouse

7ZFM1
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>>541699305
44284554
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>>541697935
>>541697941
>>541697952
>>541698052
>>541698068
>>541698868
>>541698991
You people are stupid niggers unfortunately, if abrahms stayed in the teleporter, geist would have been shoulder charged, rooted, and killed. Plus, I have a shield. It's an easy kill. 1600 life with no bullet or spirit resist.
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holy cope
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>>541697765
HOLY KEK
Should have tbagged him too
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>>541699332
Is there any requirement to join?
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>>541699474
he already used his should charge you double digit iq nigger
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>>541699650
Don't rq.
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>>541699650
Nope

8/12 atm
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>>541699674
it still wouldn't have mattered
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>>541699474
It is true but if you had listened to my previous callouts and warnings you'd have realized the Abrams is unreliable and scared.
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>>541698004
Paige isnt a support, theres no true support in this game you doublenigger
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>>541699650
oracle and up, must have prior comp experience and know the callouts, no picking mo & krill or shiv
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>>541699474
And then what? it's not like the game was decided then and there it's a meaningless kill
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>>541699650
No M&K
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>>541699857
then why didn't you solo frag the Geist then huh?
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>>541676765
>at least won't screech at you in thick accent after any minor inconvenience.
unless you got a latina gf then gg
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please god don't shuffle me in with the drifter
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>>541699791
>if the ideal imaginary scenario happened it would have worked
>w-whats that scenario wasnt possible
>w-well it doesnt matter

can you just admit you are awful at the video game and have brain damage, its apparent for all to see, this is a chance for you to grow as a person
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>>541699650
Don't pick Paige
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>>541699754
>>541699758
So I could join as a newfag?
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matchmaking sucks today
nothing but stomps
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Do people complain about the matchmaking in Dota 2 as much as they do with this game?
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>>541699945
Cus I wasn't even in this game lmao I don't play inhouses
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>>541699474
Even if Geist dies there, a 1 for 1 trade there is not worth the time and lost souls it's better to leave Geist to waste time going to heal and farm yourself instead of going for a kill that's gonna only result in 1000 souls IF the Geist is retarded (hint, she isn't) and ults Paige instead of the Abrams that's at risk of killing her in a 1v1. You're a total whiny faggot by the way
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>>541699992
>latina
the angry sex makes it a win.
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>>541699993
Drifter refresher ult duration build coming up.
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>>541700043
Yes but if you are brand new expect to struggle against certain players
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>>541700043
yeah just don't expect to do great.
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10/12

7ZFM1
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>>541700043
we will check profiles and kick anyone with less than 500 hours or a private profile or fails to join their teams voice channel in the discord
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10/12 inhouse
7ZFM1
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>>541692941
No smurfs up here in Archon, just boosted niggers and cheating aim faggots. Two in a row tonight in fact. The Russian Cartel is ruining the EU servers yet again.
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>>541698387
Ironic coming from a toxotard
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playing doorman for the first time what do I do
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>>541700557
not ult me
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>>541700557
ult him
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>>541700557
click the bell
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>>541700148
>projecting

I don't care? I called for vindicta to hold root when calico jumps me 5 times, not once did she do it. it was a pointless game
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>>541700557
START PANICKING
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holy deadhouse
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cmon 2 more
7ZFM1
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if we don't get 2 more we WILL have a 5v5 solo mid lane
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1 (one)
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11/12
one more
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give me draft give me draft give me draft GIVE ME DRAFT AAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>541680576
It's been like 13 years and there are still heroes in Dota that don't have taunts.
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giving it another 5 minutes
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cmon niggers surely we can find one (1) more
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>>541701446
There are still heroes who have models from the beta. Imagine if Yamato stays like she is forever, because thats what it is.
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Damn why do niggas here prefer to queue pub and get pubstomped and go next, than to join the inhouse and get stomped by regular users and then get posted as webms on 4chan?
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>>541701623
>There are still heroes who have models from the beta.
Who other than Morphling? I can't think of anyone else that's in need of a re-skin than him
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>>541686945
>Still retards saying it was China
Pugna is untouched.
Clinkz is untouched.
There is a specific Chinese version that removes all the spooky shit because China is weak.
It was 100% Blizzard that made them change SK. SK was changed to Wraith King at the exact time that Necrolyte became Necrophos and Windrunner became Windranger.
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>let djinn's mark get cdr
>suddenly mirage is god tier
what the fuck lol
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>>541701754
WR, Axe, Sven, DK, Sniper
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>>541692035
Was fucking hilarious when Riot made that faggot twink painter and the entire League fanbase was like "FINALLY WE HAVE INVOKER IN LEAGUE".

Then you play him and you can only use 3 spells at a time.
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i really do hate pudge 2.0. A piece of shit honorless hero that can spend all game smashing his dick with a hammer and still have a decent shot at winning because of 2 skills
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>>541702531
I remember there was another fag with like multiple guns or some shit with shills making vids on how this is riots try at Invoker-like hero. And it was just another 3 spells + ult hero, but sometimes one gun changes for another and gets slightly different particles or effect or whatever. Will they ever learn.
I'm waiting for Deadcock's attempt at Voker or at least something cool and original, so far only Doorman is somewhat new.
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>>541676891
Be aggressive, always be farming waves , prioritise taking enemy jungle over yours. Always take waves and hit towers
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>>541692035
or techies
techies is iconic
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>>541676891
Just buy cultist if you want to guarantee being ahead on some carry like wraith
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>struggling lane but have to go afk for like 10 seconds
>guardian was at more than half health
>come back and the enemy team from the OTHER lane is pushing in our walker
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>>541702983
>Techies
>iconic
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>>541703389
Do you think girls like Ivy and Vyper went to school? Do you think they got bullied for being different? Do you think Ivy ate her lunch alone in the toilets and then went home to pretended she was very popular
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>>541681429
Thank god. Absolute unbearable faggotry
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>>541696874
I honestly don't know what the issue is with him, I don't know why his play rate is so low
Sometimes I think maybe he isn't fun, but I have 22 games on him with 16 wins, and I do have fun, sometimes...
I guess maybe vexing bolt is annoying to a lot of people, it is annoying to me too sometimes... but I don't know how I would change it without making it way less interesting
The more I think about his design the more I think nothing needs to be changed, but nobody seems to like him for some reason. Copying ults is cool
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>>541682358
I feel smug predicting the removal of solo lanes. Didnt expect them to remove last hitting though, that was very welcome too
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>>541704169
I just dont think he has any identity. He steals ults yeah that's pretty cool I guess but beyond that wtf. Weird clone shit that barely does damage and he cant exactly max gun damage to split push with it and still do well with stolen ults. A stun that doesnt really stun they go fast af and are hard to hit due to smaller hitbox, and then a damage spell I dont know how it even works. It's just like a bunch of random bullshit. What exactly are you mastering when you play him?
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>>541693343

>surge of power on 2
>long range

or no balls
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>>541699056
>Noooo you can't just curse, knockdown, slowing hex and then refresher and do it all again to stop the entire enemy team from winning the teamfight!!!
>You have to left click the enemy in the head like it's Counter-Strike!!!
Cope, carry-cuck. You are a ranged creep.
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>>541702267
For some reason his winrate is still shit, sharing my build from a previous thread

New mark mirage, draft 2

First 3 for investment stat powerspike
>Extra spirit
Efficient stats, mystic burst does not work with mark
>extended mag
Builds into Escalating resilience, need an ammo increase to get max mark w/o reload
>Healing rite
For regen purposes, is better than mystic regen by a hair but we get both


First Core
>compress cooldown
Enables the mark, total x8 stack time 6s, the ammo+ let's our mag last 7.5s compared to 5.8s base
>mystic regen
Too good with mark spam, since the mark is enabled we go for more sustain
>enchanters emblem
Decent flat spirit which is preferred for mark, also gives cdr

> Escalating resilience
It fits into marks gameplan from every angle, the additional ammo prevents us from reload cucking ourselves, the resistance stacks very well with evasion and general sustainability enables mirage to drag fights and win through mark attrition

>spirit lifesteal
Enables more mark Healing, builds into infuser which is a great source of flat spirit power but its lower priority than the other late game items

At this point we are at 3.2k thresholds for our stat bonuses

Late game
>Divine kevlar
Duration is very good for mirage kit, flat spirit power is great, shield on ult is great
>boundless
Largest source of flat spirit power we can get, will be hitting massive after this
>ricochet
Spread the mark, essential before the late game mid/patron fights

At this point we are at our 9.6k stat bonuses

The rest is left open for flexibility but would reccomend Inhibitor, Duration, Magic carpet

I dont run qsr because it is not good to pop it early. Firerate is generally passed over because even just +40% make our magdump go faster than the mark stack, adding a 2.6s reload before our max stack. I do think Kinetic dash is good because its both fire rate and ammo but slots are tight
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>>541678189
enchanter's emblem
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>>541696874
give him a proper model
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>>541700586
>>541700621
>>541700626
I played gunman and it was really fun. His gun is pretty crazy. Think I'll keep doing that
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>>541702983
I had no idea who techies were until I played dota. I knew who pudge was before I knew what dota was.
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boutta blow up
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>>541699056
Paige having a 60% winrate with full support items says otherwise you stupid farmbrained nigger. How about next time you get a shield, heal or see a knock down on that Mina or lash that's about tk tear your asshole open wider than your uncle did 12 years ago, you say thank you instead of seething like a little pussy faggot.
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>>541696874
+1 to unfucking his dogshit model and garbage animations

also gib extra couple of seconds when you copy an ult
>tfw held onto one for just a little too long and it expired when i'd gotten into a place to use it
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why do my 10 seconds of shooting enemy do 500 damage but his 1 second of shooting does 4000
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>>541704985
imagine paige's butthole and how cute it looks, ringed by ginger twirls, hairy pussy close by
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good night and have a good week in Deadlock, I'm going to uninstall so I don't accidently play this since I got an exam next week and a bibles worth of pages to read
go get 'em champs
I believe in you
except ragebaiters, ragebaiters can suck dick
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>>541705218
I don't have to imagine she's my gf irl
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>>541704169
>The more I think about his design the more I think nothing needs to be changed, but nobody seems to like him for some reason
His visual design is boring and his entire personality is that you have to listen to a bitchy divorced couple bickering as you play. No thanks. No idea why they couldn't just make him a stereotypical egomaniac magician chad or some kind of moustache twirling waluigi fucker.
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>>541705218
>had ginger gf
>dumped her because she spent all her freetime on instagram
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>>541705198
I feel this way every time I lane against mcree, tornado man, doorboy, or hzel
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>>541705356
Gl with the grades then, unless you're a Paige player, then fuck you
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ok the mina changes are actually kinda wild, the mary poppins float is fun as fuck. is it supposed to not activate off zipline though? i notice every time i drop from zipline holding ADS doesn't let me float
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>>541696874
How to make polymorph more fun:

I was thinking maybe you could turn them into a ball or any object that rolls/slides based on their current momentum + direction. Could be interesting mind games. I got the idea from how viscous cube makes you slide down ramps. The momentum rework might make someone chasing your team slide all the way into your walker, or makes it so a retreating enemy goes much further back than they wanted. Maybe they slide into a dynamo ult.


Reason I want it reworked is that this spell isn't very satisfying to use for anyone but a punching sinclair since it reduces the model size and increases their speed it's hard to get value off of it for yourself and teammates. If you just want it for an interrupt literally any character can buy knockdown so I just dont think it's great, plus unsatisfying to use. They are turned into rabbits and that's all it ever does.
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>>541705514
give me this + sexy rabbit
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>>541705218
Paige isn't my type physically. Model swap her with Mina or a cute asian girl then we're talking. I only play her because I prefer enchater supports over playmakers. Though in Dota I am divine like 5700 peak mmr as a Crystal Maiden/ Earth Spirit main with Invoker/ Ench/Chen pocket whenever they're good pos 4/5
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>>541696874
>two entities sharing one body
sinclair should work like picrel
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>>541705703
seems like there's some weird input reading issue or something and I can only do drop -> M2 sometimes, but if you just hold m2 before dropping off it works 100% of the time
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How is Drifter right now? I want to get good at a new hero.

Can he carry games?
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>>541706531
yeah.
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>>541697478
Cute but I can't imagine Valve making a loli ever
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>>541706531
20% of your games you will be an unstoppable juggernaut
20% of your games you will be a very stoppable juggernaut
60% of your games you brool and do average and coinflip your wins
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>>541696874
keep the blue mage ult because its the only interesting part of the character but make the rest of his kit shit like "increased active item slots" or adding riders to any debuff you do so to encourage an actual bag of tricks playstyle instead of "hope this janky as fuck seeking bolt detection lets you one shot someone" wizard or pocket 2 as he is currently played.

I don't think they're ever going to make invoker in this game so making a character who really wants to buy active items is the next best thing
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>>541706531
drifter's main problem is that if you snowball the enemy is just going to focus fire you, a character without great sustain or escape who is entirely melee range, he can be very squishy unless you either always gank with a friend (slows your scaling on kills) or you buy a lot of survival items and then you have a hard time getting those kills at all. there's a reason you see more and more people ultmaxxing and just making it really annoying for the enemy team to play
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>>541706849
vindicta was apparently burned at the stake as a child so if they were to have one it would be her.
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>>541696874
replace/rework his 1 to not be so janky
increase the time he can hold ults
make it more obvious when he's holding an ult
his 3 is fine
I don't know what to do about his 2, it's part of the jank that is his 1 so probably also replace
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>>541697032
Oh yeah?! Well how do YOU build him wise guy?
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Can someone recreate this funny as fuck ivy "dobson inflation" video but with the new model I lose it everytime it's so fucking funny.
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>>541706531
>Can he carry games?
He doesn't clear jungles fast enough to truly hypercarry and he's better at going neutral on lane than actually winning it, but he's good at making the days of people who jungle 24/7 and/or have ez mode escapes miserable.
Agree with >>541707109, you can't really 1v11 (pick wraith or haze for this) but your ult is fucking amazing during teamfights. I really hope they change how his stacks work at some point, it's really annoying to get denied the extra weapon damage because some rooftop hopping jungle nigger happened to walk nearby right as you were finishing them off.
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>>541696874
Delete it entirely. Sinclairs kit was ripped from eternal return with a classic "copycat" ult slapped in. No one liked playing vs Emma for the same reasons. Get turned into a bunny then fucking deleted.
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>>541707607
drifter's problem is that haze just sorta already does everything he already does, but can just hyperfarm instead of needing to be active and building stacks. also has a better disengage/engage on sleep, can teamwipe, etc
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>>541707594
>funny
dont lie to us you want to jerk offf to it
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Does buying meele charge/crushing fists really not make sense on calico?
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Is this true about Vindicta? https://litter.catbox.moe/tk7ngk.png
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>>541704169
his play rate is low because his ult is not fun to use, basically most people want to use certain ults, thats a defining reason to choose a character, but on top of that you need to deal with the fact that you need to know how to use every ult at every skill point level, which ones work without the rest of their kit, against certain heroes, etc. like playing sinclair and stealing pocket ult before youve maxed it, or stealing a haze ult only to find out it needs fixation to work

the rest of the kit is not very exciting either, spectral assistant is extremely boring, bunny is obnoxious, and magical bolt is kind of fun but awkward to use, he doesnt appeal to most of the playerbase
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>>541707963
>implying
So what if I wanted to? I'm just asking haha, if Ivy got all big and round that'd be crazy haha.
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>>541708045
I played with a woman on vindicta last night that kept solo pushing up to walkers for this to happen despite me pinging retreat so yeah probably true
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>>541708186
>or stealing a haze ult only to find out it needs fixation to work
i love getting sinclair on the enemy team when im haze for exactly this reason
9/10 times it's a free kill because they think it will do anything
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>>541707607
>>541707918
>pick wraith or haze
I don't like these two heroes. Who else can carry me out of Ritualist?
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>>541708303
I played with a woman on punch paige like a week ago who definitely had ADHD and autism. First time I've ever actually laughed at a womans joke. More girls should be ND they're less annoying and serious.
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>>541708958
>paige has melee spirit scaling
>get cold clocked for 1k midair after an ult
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>>541708719
infernigger
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>>541709064
it's such an abysmal amount that there is actually no reason to build punch paige, it's the biggest bait in the game
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>>541708719
Abrams. Just never melee with how common parry cheats are at that rank.
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>>541709294
I've been playing a lot of gun Abrams and it is inferior to melee one purely because how long it takes to become online and useless you are anyway
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I only play Kelvin.
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90% of my games are on Ivy.
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>>541709079
>>541709294
You have any heroes that AREN'T negroes?
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>>541709708
die
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>>541709831
Kelvin.
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>>541709708
>>541709794
for your safety please keep this information to yourselves...
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>>541709831
He literally just suggested Abrams are you stupid
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>>541709831
Abrams is white coded but I geuss you could play mina or viktor.
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>>541709831
Warden
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>>541710020
How can I carry with Victor on current patch?
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>>541710020
>Abrams is white coded
he's voiced by a polynesian
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>>541710117
spirit lifesteal
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>>541710239
Polynesians are not black, learn your racism retard
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>>541710510
they're not white either...
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>>541709876
t. haze player
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There is nothing wrong with cool nigger characters like Infernus.
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>>541710117
this current patch actually makes him better earlier and midgame, so you can snowball with victor because comeback mechanics are nonexistent
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>>541709294
>Charge into wall
>get guaranteed hit (half health with crusher)
>surge of power on 1
>gun/spirit power till they are dead baiting parry
ezpz
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>>541710881
yeah that's the only time you melee, when they are stunned or if they whiff parry.
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>>541710546
Yeah and Abrams is literally blue, can you recognise color blue?
>>541710759
Nah fuck nigfernus and fuck his dogshit onhit effect bs
>hey guys lets design a hero for a brand new game
>oh I know, how about something original
>like deal more damage while you're dealing damage
So DEI prime was in the oven for about 7 years and thats what they came out with? Clowns
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>>541711064
Even if you fake and get a parry hold, with the amount of healing you get from 1 it's still insane. Combined with cooldown you'll get another shoulder charge if they aren't dead yet.
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>>541711132
There is nothing DEI in cool nigger characters.
Blade was cool before all this culture wars bullshit. I can name a few other cool niggers like Demoman and others. Just fuck off with your DEI seething and let me enjoy my cool niggers in peace.
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victor’s 3 should restrict movement-based abilities and dashes
total movementnigger death
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>>541711705
that's the only counterplay to him though?
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>>541711705
your slowing hex? your spirit slow?
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>>541711756
the counterplay is positioning, antiheal, and spirit resist thougheverbeit
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>>541707918
drifter is the only character that wants to get close to people and also gets literally no benefits from it besides "your 1 now does real damage now" so yeah figures
still fun as fuck though
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>>541711892
>antiheal
read what his 2 does, the only real counter to a fed victor is curse.
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>>541711705
Kelvin's beam should disarm again
total gunnigger death
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>>541704169
>>541705514
>>541705752
I think it would be better if Sinclair was more of a puppet looking doll and had Savannah & Henry as spirits bickering in the back.
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>>541711886
I buy mystic slow, but I want to make the game unplayable for mina and lash players
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>>541712076
your curse???!
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>>541711705
Haze's 4 should instantly stun anyone that takes damage for it
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>>541712004
>also gets literally no benefits from it
aside from being able to hit them, i mean
feels like a design that is making up for the ult being mega busted in coordinated play
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>>541712010
>beam use to disarm
>dome use to disarm
holy shit what the FUCK were they thinking with this guys kit?
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>>541712008
crippling headshot, healbane, toxic bullets are reapplied in a second THO
>>541712141
if you’re buying that on victor gg kek
he’s like the most slotlocked hero
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ffs nerf rejuv. It's an auto-game winner.
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>>541711573
this post is so embarrassing lmao gas all racists now
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>>541712647
good, there should be a good way to finish the game
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i hope when i wake up tomorrow they replace every "m1 deals more damage" passive with something that's at least a little more interesting
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>play miku gunnis
>fight a Mirage with comparable souls
>I unload an entire mag into his face
>not even 1/3rd of his hp is gone
>he slowly turns around while I am reloading and instagibs me
I have a feeling the build I am using is not very good
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>>541712647
They should just change the pit to be shaped more like the old one. I remember it use to be constantly stolen and now it feels nearly guaranteed.
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I got to play Drifter a few times yesterday. I grabbed some builds and all of them had me juggling like 3 active items I had to press at key times for each engagement. Why? I ended up just going with the default gun build in my following games and winning.
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>>541712815
mcginnis gun damage is a meme. mirage also has lots of temporary bullet resist debuff, easily getting to -45%, so he can fuck you up
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>>541712815
sounds like an awful build
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>>541712926
so, turrets are a meme, her gun is a meme
is she literally bottom tier?
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I buy tormentor pulse on every character because I can't aim.
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>>541713048
king
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>>541713042
her wall is good, she's just not going to do damage like haze or infernus, so you have to build tanky and try to 'control' an area with clever turret placement instead of out in the open. You'll kill supports with your gun damage, and if you heroic aura in the middle of a fight with 3-4 turrets, you'll probably win
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Just watched Lief's vid on wallboosting and I have no fucking idea what's going on. How the fuck do you wall jump but continue to go straight? Just tried it for 10 minutes straight I don't understand
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>>541713048
I think drifter with tormentor pulse and CDR is kinda scary
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>doorman abrahms wraith seven dynamo mo
>get stunlocked the entire game

how the fuck do you even counter this? I couldn't play the game even with unstoppable because it runs out. characters without stuns should just do 20% more damage baseline on every ability.
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>>541713176
the turret damage is good in theory, but the turret farm gets deleted by literally any single AoE cast lategame
>>541713305
macro exploits
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>>541713368
debuff resist bruh
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>>541713176
heroic aura with drums is kind of funny though
you literally go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT like a GAU-30
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>>541713368
get debuff remover instead and vampiric burst if gun

if spirit go ethereal shift OR you could also try cheat death. But really there's nothing you as a solo player can stop that. It's up to your team to punish them for stunlocking you the whole time (as long as you have some defensive items so it isnt easy to burst you). You could ask for shield items or rescue beams too.
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>>541712647
I think rejuv buff should stay the same but the actual boss himself should do more damage, it's annoying trying to punish the enemy for doing it while they are all full HP because it doesn't do any damage to them
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How do you feel about moves that lock you in/guarantee you to be hit afterwards? Think of something like Bebop hook. Once you're hit, you are fucked. There is no way to skillfully do anything about the fact you got hooked, you just have to eat shit and die most of the time. Yeah you can dodge the hook overall, but not always, no one is perfect.

Or Abrams 2, the charge which guarantees you will be hit by a melee after. There is straight up no items, souls, parry, anything you can do about once you're hit. It sucks IMO. Yeah you can argue the winning move is to not get hit, but things just don't work that way all the time. Yeah I'm being punished enough as it is being out positioned, damaged, stunned, and forced into CQC with him; he really needs a free heavy melee too (which will proc all melee items he's guaranteed to have, etc).

It sucks so much because there's other characters that don't have these kinds of "gotcha" moves at all and you CAN dodge them by skill/gameplay and not just be to forced to eat 2 bombs, an uppercut (which also locks your movement), and probably getting shit on by the lazer too.
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>>541713851
The boss should be whapping them out of pit with a shaking attack. Roshan throws people in dota 2 now
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>>541713943
they balanced his charge by making him fuck huge with loud as hell footsteps
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>>541713943
They're required to be in the game otherwise it's boring and movespeed/mobility spells are the only thing that matters. Nobody would die. You can scroll up and read what I read to the other guy complaining about stuns how to itemize against it
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>>541713954
Midboss arena needs another redesign
the one back when we had 4 lanes was better
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>>541714110
I really miss the big mausoleum in the center
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My Seven does no damage, any build advice?
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Four, Seven's younger brother

Lightning ghost kamikaze surprise attack
Summons a ghost on an enemy that blows up and does area damage every few seconds for a while, like a dot

Ghost Arena
After a delay, creates an impassable circle for enemies only - with a roof

Get back here cuck
Targets an enemy, with LONG range, and teleports them back to where they were 6 seconds ago.

Haunt Smoke Grenade
Instantly explodes an area with ghosts silencing and dealing increasing damage in an aoe over time, leaving the haunt zone stops the silence.
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guess the hero
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>>541707859
I don't think the dogshit gook br with triple digit playercounts was a major inspiration when designing sinclair
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>>541714323
Disruptor
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>>541714225
same, though a sewer is more fitting location.
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>>541714337
I used pretty much this exact build as Infernus like 2 games ago, so yeah Infernus.
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>entire team of single target ults vs entire team of teamfight ults
i keep getting matches like this and it literally always ends up that the teamfight ults win, without fail
fucking hell give us draft
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>>541714337
there is no way a human being bought these items for any hero
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>>541714337
se7en
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>>541713943
It's already insanely hard to catch people in this game. The way some of you talk you just never want to die after misplaying.
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>>541714110

I think the problem is it takes too long to get to, but the pit itself is too open. It takes too long to respond to taking midboss and even if you do, the team taking midboss can easily keep 1-2 heroes out of the pit to cover.
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Give me a Seven build recommendation please
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>>541714337
perma ult warden
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>>541714603
>>541714640
exactly
>>541714704
>>541714767
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>>541714323
Faceless Man

Faceless punch - faceless man's attacks have a 50% chance to reflect parries, and can power up his next melee attack to stun and bypass parries.

Faceless feet - Faceless man walks through the time, undoing the damage he took and fast forwarding

Faceless idea - Faceless man spreads a mental virus that adds 4 seconds to all cooldowns, and increases cooldowns when they use an ability. slows.

Faceless time stop - faceless man stops time in a cube shaped area, even allies. Bullets cannot enter or be fired inside faceless time. Faceless man's faceless punch and faceless feet are always active in faceless stopped time.
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>>541714813
Isn't this the build they use for night shift? support haze is good af
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Viscous should have an ability to summons a bunch of little good niggas who spit at you
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>>541714930
no retard nigga
that one has silence wave and veilwalker but no echo shart to line up ganks
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>>541714930
yeah its good af
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>>541710604
ok and what do indians look like? yeah thats what I thought.
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>>541714930
>support Haze
I know the "pros" are always coked out of their minds but what the fuck is the theory behind it
please explain to my Initiate brain
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>>541715087
haze has the only ranged instant stun in the game
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>>541714342
>nuke
>bunnymorph
>throw out an object you can switch places with
Yea surely not. ERBS was unironically populated by league/dota pros it only maintained a small community but very much was a popular niche game among moba players.
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>>541712857
>I remember it use to be constantly stolen
Yeah, because one heavy melee set your team up. Whereas now you don't get shit and it's suicidal just to sac for one steal which you'll immediately lose afterwards anyway. In its current state rejuv has no business reviving more than two people.
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>>541715201
>buy a 3200 soul item
now what?
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my vyper is standing still to shoot towers
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bebop is such a retarded fucking braindead hero, im so tired of seeing him
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>>541715542
retard
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>>541715542
agreed
I had like only 40% at the end of the game and still somehow ended up top player damage
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>>541715398
counterspell? the sleep knife isn't something that easy to time and parry, especially since she can use it while invisible with veilwalker/smokebomb
debuff remover/reducer will work though, but you'll still be stunned for some duration.
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I was the first person to ever do the echo shard seven stun build a year ago btw. I was only archon or some shitter rank but everyone else started copying it 1-2 weeks later.

>>541714110
>>541714730
yeah it does need the extra one way tunnels from spawn like they had before
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I love this game but rank decay is somewhat frustrating and not fun to engage with. It was sort of fun at first being able to stomp my way up the ladder but the higher you get it starts switching from "who has the better smurf" to "which team is less retarded," which in turn forces me to pick a hyper-carry most of the time like Infernus or Haze. My teams are so clueless it's incredible, I had a game thrown a couple days ago where everyone listened to a 3-10 Billy calling to defend urn while they had rejuv and I kept trying to tell them that this was retarded but they wouldn't listen. I just lost another game due to a similar team play and I don't get it, I can't carry this level of retardation, I've lost multiple games recently maxing out my stats doing the best in the game and I'm sick of playing these nigger brained heroes just to lose due to paid Mossad agents on my team. I hope they fix matchmaking.

>inb4 durr caring about W/L
I hope you enjoy eating your wife's bull's cum out of her pussy, but that's not for me.
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>>541715582
yeah yeah just buy debuff remover, it doesnt make hook less op, or his ult less powerful early
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>>541715087
>>541714930
remember when people would play Support Riki for literally the exact same reason (sleep dart)
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>>541715915
you can parry hook on reaction at any range where hook is actually OP and not just any other stun move
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Priest when?
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>>541715876
>first person to ever do the echo shard seven stun build
>ranks were a thing
implying
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uh oh melty in an alpha
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>>541715915
You really are a retard, what you need is a counterspell
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>>541716226
On the birthday of Yeshua ben Nazereth.
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>max range bebop
>shoot hook at seven
>miss
>goes through building
>GOTTEM
>oh shit
>its dynamo
>game losing singularity
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they just won't stop queueing up as heroes they're not good at
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I have learned a valuable lesson when it comes to hp management in lane. I'd rather let my retarded teammate die than risk going to double digit life trying to save him and throwing the lane.
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>>541716659
one death means nothing in the lane, two deaths means everything. meditate on this
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>push a lane
>4 on me
>farm jungle
>4 on me
>gank someone
>4 on me
>team is jungling/doing literally nothing every time
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>541716791
>tfw you find a retard thats basically a slot machine on the enemy team snd you have to race against your team for it
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>>541716385
An alpha with 10k prize pool tournaments, sure thing xister!
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>it's a yamato does nothing but dive and if you try to back her up you die episode

stop you fucking retard, SPAM YOUR FUCKING SWORD HOLY SHIT
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>>541717231
いいえ
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Do you guys actively wallboost?
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i fucking hate everything about Victor. his voice, his animations, his lore, everything. It's so retarded
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>>541716790
What are some other Deadlock trvth nvkes I need to know?
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>>541716359
I wasnt implying anything I directly stated it you buzzword nig
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>>541717863
thermotrvklear bomb: lady geist rapes shotas
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>>541717863
if you're losing your lane but your team is winning every other one then just let it fall. two out of three isn't bad
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Alright guys, what do you think of my idea???

Gravity Man

1. Graviton -> Target is forced to the ground, immune to displacement effects(singularity, grab, lash), and cannot be lifted no matter what. This can be cast on enemies and allies. short duration, but doubles when reapplied. stacks.

2. The hand -> Parabolic arc in front of him, removes all static AOEs, buffs and debuffs, and any projectiles between the area and gravity man. Deals damage with chaining explosions along the arc's edge, getting hit by multiple explosions deals exponential damage.

3. Anti-grav aray -> multi charge ability that creates large cylinders where jump height is quadrupled for anyone, and has no stamina cost for jumping or dashing mid air. If a target with graviton is affected by this, it turns the cylinder into a massive explosion.

4. Mass Drive -> Aimed. Charges briefly before melee striking across space time(global), applying a melee strike and graviton to any enemies hit, even through walls.
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HELP HOW DO I DO DAMAGE AS SEVEN WHAT'S A BUILD I CAN DO
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haven't played this game in about a year, is gun pocket a thing or do I have to still just spirit nuke and hope nobody buys resists
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>>541719024
random shit slapped together/10
it's perfect
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>be paradox
>TIME hero
>has one (1) time related ability
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>>541719336
time bomb (get it)
time wall (it stops bullets)
carbine (it stores a bunch of bullets into one big bullet, through time magic)
swap (who the fuck knows)
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>>541719336
two
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>>541719205
I should spam this guy and flubber some day.
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>>541717863
Warden is best built around his root
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>>541717863
Most top builds are dogshit that are upvoted by discord groups
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>>541719205
are you a fellow beam maxxer?
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>>541717863
balance is difficult because it would assume each character/play style attracts similar skill levels but broken things stay undiscovered because low skill players gravitate to certain characters
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>>541719336
>>541719431
I thought the joke with her grenade is that she's replaying the explosion over and over

the swap is just a spacial power instead of a time power but in physics the two are related so fuck it
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>>541719029
Can I get any help with this?
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>>541719751
ring of repick
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>>541719029
sevens bad now
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>>541719205
How? I spam kelvin but im not very good and wanna know how to get better
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>>541719664
Yes.
I also buy tormentors pulse.
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>>541719801
>>541719781
Why?
Should I go support Seven then?
I thought I just went from doing well to playing bad
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>>541719801
So I may finally play him.
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>>541719881
outclassed by wraith and infernus
anyways just buy boundless spirit and infuser, then push infuser and ult
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>>541719858
kelvin is more of a supportive role. you harass enemies in the early to mid game and help your carries in the late game

I found him to be very weak in my low ranks because allies never capitalize on weakened enemies.
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what's in the update
so sick of them not posting changelogs so fucking sick of this
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The game is so fucking easy when you warden root holy fuck. Nobody gets away. People can actually do damage with their shit aim. Clear target priority for monkeys
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>>541720045
>kelvin is more of a supportive role.
Fuck anyone who thinks that lmao
Kelvin is basically Leshrack with heals, I don't know how to explain it better.
You beam max and Chad Thudrercock into enemies with dome and spirit lifesteal.
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>>541720045
>I found him to be very weak in my low ranks because allies never capitalize on weakened enemies.
Did you build gun Kelvin until you got more human teammates?
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any victor gamers have any advice on how to build him? I wanna pick him up now with his new changes
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>get ally sinclair three times in a row
>immediately lose, he does absolutely nothing beyond laning

stop playing this hero
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>>541717863
most of the original heros are OP because they're based around landing their full combo for a kill (pocket, paradox). you can pubstomp when you just base your gameplan around their cooldowns
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>>541721095
>>541721095
>>541721095
>>541721095
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>>541719881
gets turbofucked by capacitor unironically
anyone who cries about him is genuinely ass at the game



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