Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #8700 - Evan Stanley cannot draw Human Man Edition==NEWS==>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Accolades Trailerhttps://youtu.be/C6BSu_x0gcE >Sonic Dash - McLaren Event Trailerhttps://youtu.be/elw3Ktdu8Hc >SAGExpo 2025https://www.sagexpo.org/>Mobile card game Sonic Blitzhttps://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayedhttps://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary - 22 October 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 19 November 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 17 DecemberSonic the Hedgehog #84 - 14 January 2026Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 28 January 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 4 March 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>/sthg/ OP template:https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://grabber.zonehttps://tails.kicks-ass.net/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ OCs:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixels:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone:>>541586694
>Hark! I come from the bad future!>"Oh, no! A bad future? I guess that means you're here to change it from happening?">Yep! Although, I don't remember if I did or what I'm supposed to do, so maybe it's a good future now? Guess I'll just have to hang around and find out lol
>>541628865Oh you fucking dick that op suuuuuucks lol. Sage!
>>541628865If I didn't hate Silver I'd almost feel bad about that op picture of him lmao
>>541628865Why would I want human men in my Sonic game?
>>541628865That's SILVER?!
>>541629175Apparently to vicariously project onto if 4chan is anything to go by
>>541629274I don't care if Evan Stanley can't draw humans, because I don't want the focus to be on humans in a Sonic story. Background people sure, but I don't want them front and center.
Posted on last thread. But is IDW Sonic worth reading again? I stopped after the Metal Virus arch and lost interest for awhile.
>>541628865No wonder IDW doesn't include humans...
You guys are still wondering why Gold wouldn't fuck THIS guy? This is what Uwuver looks like in Evan's head? Yugh. Sonic and Shadow are FAR more fuckable men. Even Knuckles. Hell Eggman can get it without a condom, but SILVER?
Big woman
>>541629380and like I replied with in the last thread, no, IDW is nothing but empty promises and disappointment.
>>541628865
Tails!
>>541629492But can you please elaborate further I am genuinely interested.
BLADE OF COURAGE FANS! YOUR COMIC SUCKS TO EVERYONE!
>>541629638YOU GUYS DON'T LIKE WANDA WHIPPLE? WHY NOT? SHE IS BASICALLY STHG.
>>541629619Are they mute tho?
>>541628865Sonic too
>>541629638Sally's at 62 though so it can't be all bleak for Blade of Courage fans.
>>541629534IDW will constantly tease and advertise big new stories that end up going unresolved or meandering around until they don't matter anymore.Take Surge and Kit for example. They were advertised as new enemies for Sonic and Tails to deal with, sold on the idea they were brainwished into becoming something specifically made for that, and when the're finally introduced, they end up discovering their lives are a lie before they've even MET Sonic and Tails, or even did anything. Then they plot to off Starline and take revenge on the world that "wronged" them, only for Starline to die from completely unrelated means and their "plans" never end up going anywhere.IDW can't be counted on to actually make good on any kind of story.
Evan Stanley cannot draw human women.
>>541629779This is her reaction to looking at >>541628865
>>541629779damn right gold is nonbinary
>>541629719What the fuck? She is in the manga?
>>541629779Why does that matter for a Sonic comic?
Literally who gives a fuck if a Sonic artist can draw humans?
>>541629861It's an edit.It's Tails instead actually.
>>541629779Oh boy Silverbros. Look at what our boy gets to fuck!
Gold the Tenrec>Won't fuck Silver because he's a gay little faggot Surge the Tenrec>Hates Sonic because he protects evil people from punishmentShadow needs a third female tenrec
>>541629861no, someone has been trying to force a meme for weeks now
>>541629882Pictured: a Sonic character.
>>541629857Gold isn't nonbinary, she's a lesbian, just like Clove.
>>541629638Yuuta would be lucky to get to Chris-tier but jpfags will never admit this objective fact
>>541629889Everyone who does not want IDW to be a furry world which has pissed people off heavily with the Chaotix manga.
crazy how literally all of the best sonic games have human npcs and the worst sonic games have anthro npcs
>>541629973Againwhy should I care?
>>541630020My nigga in Jesus, it’s a Sonic comic. If you can’t handle furries why are you even here
>>541629345Yeah to be honest I'm apathetic to the idea of humans in Sonic. Having any as main characters doesn't appeal remotely to me since Sonic's appeal is colourful animal people, robotic characters or crazy supernatural monsters and aliens instead of just being ass people. Dr Eggman gets leeway since he's such a great design and personality plus human characters can exist but they aren't a priority for me.
>>541629963>someoneViolet
>>54163005206 has humans
>>541630248Yeah, and it's Sonic 2006.
>>541629380It's funny to me that of all the things IDW does well, it's the Deadly Six and specifically Zavok.
>>541630248Just as he said, yes
>>541630248And 06 is good
>>541630209nta but humans would definitely make the comic more authentic to the games that people actually like in this fandom? SA1, SA2, Unleashed, Black Knight to a minor extent. This "mobians only" rule only makes the comic feel authentic to 90s Archie, Forces, and nothing else. Sure the games haven't had many human NPCs recently (Shadow Generations being an exception) but they also don't heavily feature background characters in general so it's negligible in comparison. Also not to shill blade of courage but the fact that that manga exists at all flies in the face of the idea that this is somehow sega's vision. It seems like Sega is enforcing an outdated rule onto IDW for no reason other than "it's a forces comic"
>>541630306I don't know what comic you read but putting the Deadly Six at the tail end of the Metal Virus arc just made people like them even less. Even their creators were upset about it saying it killed any chance for people to warm up to them.
>>541629973Better hide Victoria before Sonic's human woman lust goes into maximum overdrive. Jokes aside this is more so how human characters should look and be designed in Sonic if they're around.
>>541630278>>541630328>>541630363>06 is goodYou guys are even more delusional than the people crying about humans in Sonic
>>541630382>no humans>authentic to 90s ArchieTell me you didn't read Archie without telling me you didn't read Archie.Archie had infinitely more human than IDW. Even in the 90s.
>>541630492Honestly I'll just take the loss here.
>>541630412It's good. More and more people are slowly realizing the truth, and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
The IDW Sonic movie comics unironically look more like they take place in the world of Sonic than the fucking canon IDW mainline comic. They even have on-model levels from the games.
>>541628865>see Sonic Origins in store, randomly remember there's an expanded version of Mega Collection for PC along with ports of Heroes and Riders that all came bundled together without DRM>go home and try to find them>scrubbed from everywhere, only ones with securom shoved into them remain>wait...the basket weaving forum! of course!>oh boy there's a link to it>all the folders are empty except for SADX
>>541630394I more so mean just giving them actual characterisation or presentation as an actual threat. I'll agree they do add to the bloat of the Metal Virus arc though and that it would've been better to foreshadow or hint to them being in the storyline instead of added last minute to drag thing outs. I'll also say their usage is better then in Worlds Collide despite my overall preference to Archie against IDW.
>>541630492Even as a kid I didn't know why anybody thought Nate Morgan was a good idea.
>>541630594Get these shitverfags outta here man I’m sick of this shit
>>541628865fuck is that thing lmao
>>541630659I'm not a Silverfag. My favorite of the three stories is Sonic's.
>Go to Spagonia in IDW>It's entirely populated by "mobians">Go to Spagonia in the Blade of Courage>It's entirely populated by humans>IDW>Furries are everywhere and the only humans are Eggman and Witchcart>Blade of Courage>Humans are everywhere, the only furries are Sonic and TailsI don't really care which side you're on but this level of inconsistency is pathetic and retarded. Pick one. One of these has to be objectively incorrect.
>>541630382This human talk is actually reminding me how it's used in the Bad Guys to make a distinction from important characters and just the background characters plus to add emphasis to the overall narrative and themes of the films. Though Luggins is an exception being a prominent human character with a lot of personality and a striking design, sorta like Dr Eggman but in a Zenigata role.
MIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>541630760You forgot about Sally.
>>541630760I think we've had enough monkey pawing at this point to realize that a unified Sonic setting is actually a bad idea.
Gerald created a furry for his granddaughter
people hate idw so fucking much now they'll praise sonic 06 for being in character
>>541630826We've all forgotten about Sally and it's time you did too, diaperfag
>>541630615I liked that they used Rava briefly and also gave him a nifty design.
This pic is from 2012 maybe. Is it too early to judge?
What are the major differences between Cream and Amy?
>>541630813The Bad Guys feels more like a Soni to me than the Sonic movies and IDW
>>541630840That'd be a fun idea for a villain, Paw the Monkey who's a wish granting dickhead.
>>541630869Sally is one of the most popular characters, more popular than Amy, according to the data.Data Collection, Round Robin Style character rankinghttps://allourideas.org/soniccharacters
>>541630968Amy doesn't have to "try" to be brave like Cream does. Also Amy can fight on her own, Cream needs Cheese to fight.
>>541630813Except that cop lady is an important character.
>>541629861Yeah, >>541629719 is an edit
Violeti is really forcing this "Sally in Blade of Courage" meme and it was funny for one minute, not five fucking weeks oh my god.
>>541630980Honestly yeah now that you've got me thinking, that sorta art style and overall direction would be perfect for an animated Sonic film. I don't hate the paramount films but to be honest I do think it'd been better if they were fully animated, could've even had Longclaw look more game esque that way then.
>>541631001Why is Yuuta so low?
>>541630968Amy is girl Tails.Cream is girl Sonic.Amy is needy and emotionally dependent on the approval of others.Cream is confident and self-assured.Amy's desire is for Sonic's love.Cream's desire is for fun and adventure to excite her civilian life.Amy is feisty and passionate.Cream is a cold calculated perfectionist.Amy has a temper.Cream is kind.Amy is like the tagalong.Cream is like the female wind.
>Tfw I was in kindergarten when Richard Kuta uploaded his seething rant and grew up to learn who he is through some 30 year old darkagefag calling me "diaperfag" for posting Sally AcornHaha you are old.
>>541631169>Amy's desire is for Sonic's love.Not anymore.
>>541631046Yeah that's what I said in the last half, Misty Luggins is an exception being the only major human character who's plot important like Dr Eggman usually being the only plot important human consistently.
>>541631225He was right about Sonic 4 btw.
>>541631136
>>541631169Truke. Imagine if Cream had met sonic in the classic era
This must be a bad translation because when has Sonic ever described Amy this way?
>>541631151I like the paramount films more than the bad guys honestly, but the visual vibe and the way that the bad guys doesn't really feel the need to dwell on the talking animals is just good
>>541630760I don't think Spagonia in IDW fully showed any of the background characters.Anyway, this issue comes from the fact that Forces was designed to take place on a different planet, and IDW is a continuation of Forces made by people who don't like (and have since managed to retcon) the Forces worldbuilding. Forces was designed to be incompatible, and now they're trying to make it compatible
>>541631316I just now realized cream has "spikes" for some reason.>That's just hairI know, that's what spikes are treated as I just think it's weird that the soft bunny girl has such a sharp design element.
>>541631419>Anyway, this issue comes from the fact that Forces was designed to take place on a different planet,This has to be emphasized, how wrong the fandom was about this. Iizuka LITERALLY meant TWO PLANETS. He wasn't talking about two realms, he wasn't talking about two locations on one planet, he meant Sonic is a fucking space creature from another world. Pat Casey confirmed this is the reason Sonic is an alien in the movies. Originally Paramount wanted him to be from A FUCKING ISLAND. Then Sega told them no, Sonic is an alien, he cannot be from earth. A space alien. That was Sega's fucking decision. Holy fuck I hate Sega.
>>541631136>>541631294CUTE CUTE CUTE!!
Generations if it was good:
Behold the most hated IDW Sonic character.https://allourideas.org/soniccharacters
>>541631385I'm not sure which films I like more of the two but I think their respective strengths and weaknesses do make them enjoyable to me regardless. The Bad Guys does remind me how much I wish Sonic had more non mammal characters.
>>541631564Yeah no shit. Tangle literally only exists out of spite for Amy. People who like Tangle aren't to be trusted.
>>541631564Yeah you keep saying that but I don't see any kind of "results" there
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>541631543It was such a stupid retcon. I wanted to cope with the "two societies" thing too, but it's clear that wasn't the case. This is also why Forces looks so different, why Green Hill isn't South Island, why GUN isn't present, etc.More controversial, but now I also think that Unleashed was ALSO designed to be another, separate planet. They decided to completely ignore the original planet from Sonic 1 through Shadow 2005 in favor of this new "two worlds" lore, and they were two NEW worlds, the human world of Unleashed and the blobian world of Forces, and the rest of the games in that era take place in some generic empty field location or space
I was genuinely surprised how much people hated the Knuckles show. Not because I thought it was good, but I was surprised so many people think Sonic X and Satam are good shows. I'm sorry guys but they are pretty fucking lame. Sonic is annoying as fuck in Satam and you have to be insane if you think demigod windnic understander of world rotation is a cool character
>>541631749"view results" button.>>541631751Chris has better writing than any IDW OC.He's not great but he's a lot less terrible.
Penders PLEASE I don't care about your shitty attempts at making Sally spread her legs for every male she meets, I just wanna see Sonic do wacky stuff to beat up Robotnik and make some quips...
>>541631730Didn't the person who drew this get cancelled for it?
>>541631751It's a good thing that this specific voting system can't be botted without inflating the numbers of every character. People are going to have to sit, seethe, and accept that some of their faves are not popular
>>541629380I wouldn't say worth reading. In fact the Metal Virus arc was probably the best of the comic and even that arc had a ton of problems with it.In the best way to describe IDW Sonic is "safe." Never feels like there's any stakes or real danger, the characters pretend to change or "grow" but never really do, status quo and empty promises
>>541631857No, Quaver got canceled for a similar, much more tame drawing because it gave "Rapey" vibes and Tikal is 14. Quaver actually apologized and claimed he had no sexual intent at all (he did) which was pathetic. Just draw the porn and own it. He went on to draw Amy porn after so either he doesn't believe this is pedophilic or he's a pedophile himself.Either way, never listen to twitterfags, draw busty sonic girls getting their backs blown out
>>541631872Thankfully the characters I like generally ranked well and also I prioritise my opinions over others.
>>541631791Surge, Kit, and Starline are better, but it is insane that I would honestly say he is an entire tier above half the IDW cast.
>>541631820Then you're reading the wrong comic.
>>541631730I've been saying this the whole TIME! But no one listened to me...
>>541631968Does Quaver do comms or have forms for it at all?
>>541629520is shit
SatAM females are universally beloved.There is no reason they can't be canonized as mascots of the game cast.Nicole and Bunnie are just below Blaze as far as 'best female character' is concerned.Sally is comfortably ahead of Amy.
Professor Victoria went from the most hyped character to the least hype.
>>541631820>He's already getting tired of Sally being a slut>Sonic's eyes aren't even green yet.Lmao good luck
>>541632116A lot of people have a stubborn grudge against them. I'm not saying they should not be put in new stuff because of this, but there will be lots of shitflinging.
>>541631968For some reason I thought Quaver was female.
>>541632006>First 20 issues are some of the most fun I've had reading Sonic in years >Story starts to get more dramatic but it's still an entertaining ride >By issue 40 Penders is all in on his bullshit and it's all downhill from here Well it was fun while it lasted I suppose
>>541632226Me too, he isn't?>>541631968He still posts though
>>541632116>Sally is comfortably ahead of Amy.She really isn't.
>>541632231Don't worry, it picks up again at 160 lmao
>>541632226>>541632305Quaver is a mtf trans person. Quaver still draws hentai of Sonic characters. Quaver just stopped posting busty sfw content on Quaver's sfw account because then zoomers would see it and freak out.
>>541632231Archie Sonic SHOULD have ended at issue 50. After that you can really tell they were struggling to figure out where to take the comic, and then Sonic Adventure happened and made things even more difficult for them.
>>541632204Some of them literally can't be added without breaking something or being radically changed. Sally is the biggest example of this her character is so deeply ingrained into the world she comes from that to bring her into the main canon would require some bullshit. She would either need to be stripped of her title and backstory almost completely revamped (she would be a very shallow version of Sally), or she would need to come from an alternative dimension in which case she's just a worse blaze and suffers from the same problem of "why are you here? Go home dude". Not to mention she wouldn't know anyone here all that stuff in Archie straight up never happened in IDW. Its a completely trashed universe
>>541632324In design she certainly is
>Mogs 1/3rd of the non game characters including Tangle and Belle>Mogs The Conductor and BarryHow does he do it?
>>541632387Oh ok cool.>>541632435It's happened before, with other old characters. Perhaps her diehard fans wouldn't mind.
So Sally and Shadow are not only both supposed to be dead but they got used for messiah imagery after being revived?I'm not going to say it.
>>541632435The Sally you just described is Tiara Boobowski, or whatever her stupid name was.
>>541632590The same yet different
>>541632530Who's this little nerd emoji?
>>541632435I disagree heavily. Not that I want those characters in but I don't think the mainline Sonic lore is actually rigid enough for this to be an issue. Theyh have dropped "Here is a secret ancient extremely influential civilization" like 8 times already. There being some nation ruled by squirrels that we haven't seen before doesn't sound like a stretch. Also, Sally is not an Archie character, she's a satam character. In Satam her backstory is insanely simple.
>>541632435You can just have Sally be the heir apparent of some Island's local monarchy. It isn't hard to make her game canon as long as you ignore Spinball.Just have her be the heir of some island's monarchy. Why does she assist the protagonist? Because Eggman's trying to take over her island because it has a valuable precious resource. The Power Gems. Which are like Chaos Emeralds in that they're sources of Chaos Energy but they're weaker than the emeralds are individually and one needs to amass numerous Power Gems to equal the power of a Chaos Emerald.You can easily use this set up for a Sally or Tails game.If you don't want to establish that, just have Sally be the ruler of some island who Sonic helped in the past. Who offers him support with reconnaissance or intel on something. Soft-canonizing SatAM in the 'broadstrokes' even if not the specifics of characterization or childhood friendship.It is not hard to make Sally work in the games.
>>541632676The hint kid from Station Square. Probably died when Perfect Chaos attacked.
>>541632737Why not have her be from another planet? That is the game canon approach now
>>541632792Bros I am tired of ayyyys in Sonic
>>541632737Meant Sonic, not Sally, my bad. Sonic or Tails games both work with this premise. Hell, you could even do an ensemble cast.>>541632792Because it'd firmly establish that she's an islander and make the islander-continental divide clearer in the actual, existing, Sonic the Hedgehog games.
>>541632747Everyone evacuated during the attack>But EVERYONE
>>541632737Again, that's just Tiara Boobowski.
>>541632792That is not the game canon approach, that's the japanese localized manual text for Sonic spinball. Sally Acorn doesn't exist in the games and there is no way to judge what she'd be like if she did.We can say what she wouldn't be though. Sonic's girlfriend lol.
I WAS RIGHT YOU.LOSERS! THESE ARE SOME OF THE BEST ADDITIONS TO CROSSWORLDS.
>>541632916Sorry best potential additions!
>>541632916I agree with you
>>541632851Nta but I'm not, fucking love aliens being so involved in Sonic and nearly every continuity. AOSTH has them, Chaos in Fleetway was an alien, they are vital to Archie's backstory, Sonic X has a whole alien season and the games have two lore important alien races, unironically love it.
>>541632916But these two aren't in Crossworlds.
>>541632887Which man would she glue herself to then
>>541628865HUMANS
THE POLL IS FAKE!TANGLE AND WHISPER ARE TOO LOW. LOOK AT ALL THE DEMAND FOR THESE FAN FAVOURITE CHARACTERS!
>>541633045Female characters don't need to be bound to male characters. Blaze's popularity in spite of Silver and Silvaze leeching proves this.If you want to give Sally to any male character from the games, though, Tails is right there and lacks any love interest in the game verse.
>>541633045Infinite if you want heroine on villain antics suppose.
>>541633016The anatomy here doesn't feel right, the foreshortening feels a bit flat.
You guys actually take polls seriously?
>>541633031>>541633003
>>541633030Well that's good for you anon. (slips a pill in your drink)>>541633105I think everyone who likes/buys IDW is active on Twatter. So that would be like, 10 thousands people at best
Nice fan art >Click on next issue>Sonic vs St Geoffrey on the coverExtremely tempted to skip......but I won't..
>>541632182She's become a living symbol of Ian's hubris and attempts to have more influence on the franchise that ultimately lets everyone down.
Sally trying to fuck infinite would be funny, especially if she's actually stronger than he is.
>>541633121Blaze is at the top of the poll whereas Silver is near the bottom
>>541633121>Advocating pairing Sally with TailsI politely hope you choke on your own bile
>>541633121What, would this sally be 9 years old?>>541633124Infinite cannot handle allat; in fact he has a realistic panic attack whenever he thinks about Chadow's cock
I think good character development for Sally would be learning that she is a slut who likes sex and giving up on trying to find a husband because one dick is not enough for her. She wants to feel all of the world's men.
>>541633139Yes because it has been around for a while and it clearly is aligning with the thoughts in the thread.
>>541633149Yes, it is good having the series often appeal to my specific narrative fondness(Drinks pill which is defeated by my awful diet)
Violet is a windfag so everything she says about characterization is correct. It's a shame though. I like Shadally more than Tailsally.
Maybe I speed read past it but why is there a giant dragon hanging out with them?She just kinda popped up one issue and was never explained.
>>541633263Tails has no canon age anymore.He's not coded as a kid like Cream, Charmy, and Sage are in Crossworlds.Blaze talks about how much he's matured. Charmy mentions him not being much older but this is absentee in the JP release.Having Tails and Sally both be around 14 would work really well. But blobian mascots don't need ages in this day and age.
>>541633423I miss Shadally.
>>541628865>>541629706>>541629779
>>541632541There's also the issue of redundancy and comic specifically there's the issue of character bloat. Let's go over some!Rotor the walrus, would be annoying to work into sonic art style but I'm sure it's been done well enough before. His purpose is to be "tech guy", made redundant not only by tails but by that fucking orangutan who feels like a spiritual replacement for him.Antoine De'coolette. Style wise it's easy to do a fox, we have one already. Depending on who you ask he's meant to be a knee knocking coward relief character and the buttmonkey of the group. Nobody wants to deal with that. Okey so what about cool Antoine, guy who goes from being happy-go-lucky relief guy to super edge because of some tragedy? Well then he's redundant, because we have whisper. She even talks funny too.Bunnie Rabbot. Again, shouldn't be too hard to make it work, we have mobian robo hybrids in canon, but what do they do with her? Archie didn't even seem to know what to do with her. She's a tough country gal who makes do and kicks ass, but we have plenty of kickass characters as is. She's just "the cyborg". I guess she be worked in without taking up much space I just don't know what you'd do with her or what she would do in the world.Mina Mongoose. Strip her super speed and keep her a singer and you can just throw her in the background as a popular idol. Literally don't give her any screen time, aside from maybe a special short where Amy or cream or whatever goes to one of her concerts and just have her take up occasional background billboard space and you're golden. Who else?The entire acorn line is just fucked. They don't work at all.
>>541633159GOD DAMN IT
>>541633446That is Dulcy that came from the cartoon
>>541633423>Shadally>WindfagsYou're not going to believe this
Do we still mask irl drama with bad taste character shipping ITT or can we slowly build up to making a good sonic game again?Or is the thread just going to be riddled with sneak disses and alludes to porno ai like it always gets? Real question amigos and amigettes
>>541633496Mina didn't exist for any reason other than to spark drama. She's best left forgotten.
>>541633263>>541633180>Infinite expecting to initiate phantom ruby induced Hypno defeat sex but just ends up like a flustered school boy when in Sally's presence
>>541633524That explains it. I should watch the cartoon someday
>>541633410>defeated by my awful dietOh, I see. This must be why Sonic is so healthy.>>541633496My faves are the Ken characters so, no comment...
>>541633446She was introduced in the jokey era of Archie and stuck around
>>541633580I wouldn't recommend it.Bunnie and Rotor are barely background characters in the show, Antoine is unbearably annoying and Sally's the actual main character who carries the plots while Sonic is just there for action.If you have to watch the cartoon then just don't watch season 2, because it gets so much worse.
>>541633524I liked her reboot design and that is the most I've thought of regarding Dulcy
>>541633513Cucknic bros...
does anyone have that sonic underground webm here sonia's boobs are huge
>>541633637Remember when she was used as the focus for a domestic abuse story? And it ended with her abusive boyfriend getting killed?Seriously, not making that up.
>>541633570Assume they're being reintroduced. They literally carry nothing over from Archie but signals and concepts of themselves
>>541633627Why is she pumping so much steam>>541633571This makes me fondly remember the fic where Metal falls in love with his human female mechanic and Infinite tries to flirt with her in front of him to make him seethe.
>>541633513Thank you Naugus for destroying his life, that is but one of many reasons you are one of my fave non game villains.
Realistically will Infinite ever come back?
>>541633851Not likely, Sonic Team seems aware of how badly he didn't work.
>>541633470
>>541633794Figures Metal Sonic would also have Sonic's human woman lust to lmao. I wish Infinite was allowed to be a recurring villain since I genuinely like him despite his flaws and the DLC fucking his backstory up.
You are still debating canon in a world where Prime and IDW are stated to be canon
>>541633851Possibly, he wasn't nessesarily killed, just absorbed, tho not sure if sega wants him back, and if he does, he will be a victim to Sonic mary suism again
>>541633992Welcome to this General
>>541633895That's no excuse since they are willing to give Silver, Big and the Deadly Six chances over the years to get fan followings and reappraisal due to recurring use.
Post Bunnie
>>541634060Mimic nooooo!
How did you guys feel about Mephiles in Shadow Gens?Thought it was cool at first but thinking back I don't like it. Just felt like a whiny brat to me.
>>541633989You say that, but he usually acts nothing like 'nic. Does he really have his memories and personality in him? Is Metal the Wind?>>541633937Cute piggy. I would eat h->human feet
>>541634073
>>541634073Built for French Coyote COCK
>>541633121>Tails is right there and lacks any love interest in the game verse.I already fill that role, actually
What do you think of Sonic 4 Episode 2?
>>541634159I suppose Metal is the wind that has metal shards or iron particles in it
>>541634274Didn't play it.
Do you guys ever wonder what life would've been like for you if you didn't get sucked into the curse of the Sonic franchise?
Such a pity that Sonouge hype has died out
>>541634274It looks fun and I like the music, but I still haven't played it.
Would Sally fuck Mephiles?
>>541634274Mediocre. Game would've been better if it didn't stop every time you combined with Tails.And didn't have 40 second Boss intros.
>>541634301Sonic is a recent thing in my life so no, life would not be much better. In fact I'd have a lot less boys to daydream about while coping at work.
>>541634073I love her so much.
>>541634348A princess's duties are eternal
>>541634274Which zone's subtitle is Drogune has virtually no audience?
>>541634312I don't mind. Rails is better anyway.
>>541634312Jhett made a skit last week of Sonic and Rouge a week ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_-Otu9FpbgThe fandom has already accepted that Sonic and Rouge are a fuckbuddy pairing
>>541634348Is he male (chromosomes) and does he have a meat stick?
>>541634312Yeah, was annoying seeing Sonamy fans latch onto the few scraps. At least had some solid Sonic X Rouge stuff come out of that intro at least suppose.
>>541634274first i saw that sonic 4 was on iOS store. and it costed money. so I thought it must have been some obscure mobile slop because no one was talking about it. it also played terrible
Do you guys like Outcome Memories?
The poll shows that /sthg/ hates all current side media.The films, Prime, and IDW are far more hated than Boom, X, and SATAM
>>541634464Yes!I hope they add Sally soon.Super excited to play as Blaze when the next update comes out.
>>541634401>eternalclever
>>541634435>I can handle the curves>Of which she shows none hereHmmm>>541634464I'd love to know what that is but I feel like a complete outsider, I can't make ends of how to get into that fandom
>>541634214How does one man win so fucking hard?
>>541634435>My enjoyment and smile being lost when got to the extreme gear part of the video's dialogue
>>541634520Roblox game inspired by Sonic.exe's with a Dead by daylight inspired style of gameplay. Don't get into the fanodm it's full of literal children. I'd just play the game and listen to the OST.
>Most shipperfags happy to hear their pairing say something vaguely nice>Sonic and Rouge making sexually toned comments at each other>Amy fags had years and Sonic wanting to stand next to her with an umbrella is the most they got>Meanwhile he makes a sex joke at Rouge (He meant the road duh)I can see why Sonamyfags get so prickly honestly
>>541634520>I can't make ends of how to get into that fandomPlay the game.It's free to play. No microtransactions.One of the most active Sonic multiplayer games right now.
>>541634570>This is what Vector wakes up to
>>541634631Would you say it's more popular than CrossWorlds?
>>541634619>>541634631Low key my point; I can't understand today's kids and I feel like this game would go over my head since I don't know the lore. But I do have a roblox acc, I'll check it out.
>>541634412Rails is shit though.
>>541634593That is a natural consequence of a hetero ship being popular with twitterfags.
>>541634627They got Boom and X at least for their ship even if the brutal mogging of Archie having Sonic snog multiple girls except Amy probably lingers.
>>541634776No more shit than Sonouge.
>>541634743The game has arcade style gameplay. There isn't really 'lore'. There's some character info you can find on Discords and Wikis but you can safely ignore that.>>541634730Hard to quantify. it's been out longer, though.
>>541633496Some moreGeoffrey St.John. This guy being Penders self insert already kneecaps his chances getting in, but his point was being secret service to the acorn royal family and being an adult dick to sonic. We already have shadow for that, replace Acorns with GUN and being a dick to sonic with being a dick to sonic and boom he's now redundant.Dr. Quack. Get that FUCKING duck away from me. You know what's really annoying? Out of all the Archie casts he probably has the least issue getting into the IDW as a character. He's just the dedicated medic knockoff TV personality doctor, we don't have one of those. I'm just sick of seeing him.Scourge the hedgehog. Evil sonic. We already have evil sonic. We already have WAY too many evil sonics. No more evil sonic please. Also he's a rapist. None of that thank you. Prime added another evil sonic STOP DOING THAT. Sonics "family". No. Just no. In fact any Sega game character "family" is just nuked forever.
GOD DAMN IT WHY COULDNT SHE HAVE A HAPPY ENDING
>>541634593I am a massive sonougefag and I genuinely hate how the fandom tries to corkscrew it into somehow being a queer airing
>>541634743No lore in game or anything. Unless you care about where the exes come from and don't know who certain Sonic characters are.
>>541634627
>>541634779I blame Vivian Medrano for me being unable to escape that wretched word and concept that holds a special hate in my soul....also my friend who is fixated on it but he's still my friend that aside.
>>541634778Wouldn't it be exactly the opposite? Shadow is the gay emo here with his stupid eyeliner
>>541634806I can't tell if you just hate the idea of multiple similar characters in one canon or if you simply believe Sega has no writers capable of fleshing out a massive cast and correctly applying foils whenever two characters are very similar.
I never got the hate for Evan. She wrote some of the better IDW comics and was a fine artist on Archie. If anything she's keeping the book from delving into complete Flynn nonsense
>>541629638Glad Lunar is an utter failure.
>>541634790They don't want Boom or X, they want the main series, instead they can't even get Prime, where Sonic gives her 'the ick' and called Rebel alluring.
>>541635047Was he though?
CRACKPOT THEORY! Egg Pawn was chosen over Marine in Crossworlds to save costs on casting.
>>541634982Hell Inn?
>>541634898Yeah it sucks, it wouldn't be so annoying if didn't have to wait every full moon for any fanart or material on the ship to exist. Oddly IDW despite its fault has provided some fun interactions and panels.
>>541629719>girlfriend They really can't see her as anything but.
>>541635039ngl wouldn't y'all want Ian Flynn to go full autismo ken penders level of writing lore and throwing shit at the wall to keep the comic at least interesting and unique?
>>541635039She pushed the Restoration garbage, crested Belle, essentially created Lanolin, about to create another disaster with Lunar.
>>541635079Yes.
>>541635085Egg Pawn is more popular than Marine dawg. MARIA had a better shot at showing up to Crossworlds and she's fucking dead lmao.
>>541634790Anon Sonamyfags don't want Sonic to go "uh oh" when she chases himSonamyfags don't want them to hug once in a whileSonamyfags don't want her leaning on his shoulder while he doesn't run awaySonamyfags don't want him entertaining the idea of a date but never doing it onscreenSonamyfags don't want him looking away while she looks at himSonamyfags don't WANT the fucking wind.They want him to say "I love you" in words to her. They want him to go on dates and call them dates with the explicit purpose of beginning a romantic relationship and not just going on an adventure. They want them tonguefucking onscreen. They want Sonic making comments about curves to her. They don't want Sonic having flirtatious banter with characters not named Amy. They don't want Ash and Misty hint bullshit, they want Bible Black onscreen cum blasts.
>>541635039>delving into complete Flynn nonsenseYeah. instead its now Evan tumblr nonsensealso wasn't reboot archie praised?
>>541634570Artist?
I love him so much.
>>541635039I don't hate her, but her female sensibilities are very obvious. Maybe not the best choice for writing a shounen story.
>>541635092It's that thing that makes red Zim a total loser, also since since on the topic only 4 character designs Vizie made were good in her hell is essentially California cartoons.
>>541631001It's only because her name has a more spawn rate than Amy, I did that shit multiple times and names like Erazor pop up more than Amy. Use a real poll and find out.
>>541635250Snkprprsti
>>541634961>>541634778Artist?!
>>541635248Reboot Archie was 10 years ago, I judge by CURRENT shitAnd CURRENTLY, Flynn is trash
Sonouge has some insanely hot content despite being a rare pair
>>541630968Cream needs to be vaulted. That's what she and Blaze have in common.
>>541635245When you put it like that I guess the envy Is quantifiable despite having the most fanworks to sate on.
>the best defense Ian Flynn fags have is "T-That one comic he wrote almost 15 years ago was well praised!"
Is Ian Flynn trash because he has too much control or not enough? I see people complaining about the comic being safe but hating the shit that does happen.
>>541635245>Bible Black out of nowhere>>541634961Imagine being goldilocks entering the cottage to see them sleeping like this. They must be such good brothers!
>>541635443Too much controlHe's like Penders, he needs a tard wrangler to tell him when to cut the bullshit
>>541635220>she's fucking dead lmaoAnd?The Werehog is a racer, even if Sonic still had Dark Gaia inside of him, the Werehog can't come out during the day time, so anyone can show up, if Steve and Megaman didn't already make that clear.
Rebel really likes to grab and touch Sonic in Prime. Always pulling him and poking him. I wonder if Rouge's flirty side is buried within her.
>>541631169>Cream's desire is for fun and adventure to excite her civilian life.Like SA1 Amy comments on about her mundane life? Cream is fucking redundant and better off rid of.
>>541635493I feel like Maria being in Crossworlds would kinda sully her sacrifice her dark and tragic story if she's doing kickflips in extreme gear while racing Miku and Joker. But that's just me.
What plots would there be in Sonic involving Hexaeco as either supporting characters or antagonists?
>>541635605...but enough about Shadow after SA2
>>541635395It's cause their personalities work well and also their designs nicely compliment. Though Sonouge but with AOSTH Sonic would be really entertaining.
>>541634627Sonic does no such thing to Rouge. People are just fucked in the head. >>541634975Autism.
>>541635642I feel like Shadow redeemed his appearances narratively speaking after Heroes and Shadow 05. NGL. Those stories were pretty alright.
>>541635619I have no words (but the artist absolutely does)
>>541635395I do say if Sonic has to be shipped. Amy is not the type of girl to go with. it has to be rough tomboy with punk energy. Rouge got some of that, Sally got some of that. that purple chick from Boom got some of that. Surge got some of that. She hates Sonic. but if she dropped the hate, I could unironically see it. Amy got none of that. Blaze doesn't neither. man sonic team sucks at shipping lol
>>541635639HEXAeco accidentally creates anthro supervillains in several of their clean energy experiments with the head CEO either trying to cover it up, discreetly have one of the cast try to handle it or some insidious evil company stuff.
Sonamyfags are NOT windfags. Know the difference.Sonamyfags tolerate the wind because it means all other pairings are OOC. Sonamyfags only like the wind because it means that in an argument, no ship can actually claim Sonic without breaking his character. If Satam was about Amy and Sonic, they would love it, they wouldn't care that it changes his character in 1000 ways. If Archie was about Sonamy, they would love it. Most Sonamyfags do not actually like "in-character" Sonic. He is nothing more than a way to shut down other ships.
>>541634435Who's the "fandom"?
Bros I need to know, are Metal Sonic and Neo Metal Sonic the same person? Because they don't act the same. Is the implication Neo was possessed or something? Or was he always like this, just mute?
are there truly no other Sonamy fans here besides me?
If you hate Cream you hate sonic. FAX
>>541628865My God Evan listen, Silver is straight confident and assertive. I fucking despise Uwuwuver but come on even I know human Silver more of a young pretty androgynous bishounen type (Sonic probably fits too) not… whatever this thing is
>>541635920If you hate Cream, you hate the wind.
>>541635771The issue with Sally is that while she does have that energy she explicitly does not like the free spirit part of him at all. I'm not even talking about the slap. If Sally had to deal with Sonic's canon personality she would lose her mind, that's why Ian tossed away Sonally after getting notes on Sonic's character. He said it just isn't fair to Sally.
>>541635842True. and imagine being filtered by shipping
>>541635938THAT'S HUMAN SILVER??? WHY IS HE BLACK
>>541634312Give it time. It's already buried knuxouge in terms of popularity/canon potential (though that's not difficult, lmao) and could overtake shadouge easily.
>>541635771YOU KNOW WHO ELSE DOES?
>>541635840Would be fun to see team dark for example fighting through their HQ one floor for one member with banging soundtrack in the background
Knowing how absolutely deranged Sallyfags are known to be I wouldn't be surprised if one has been spamming her name since the poll's conception, and most characters that aren't higher than spin-off slop is obviously because fans of these characters have better shit to do than to waste time needing some vindication from something that isn't even official. I clicked on Amy's name only several times then got bored at all these non-game characters generating more than actual canon characters I closed that shit.
>>541635870I see it as essentially Neo Metal Sonic is an attempted evolution of Metal that caused his personality to go completely ape shit with free will but his innate drive to become the real Sonic by surpassing him also causes him to take control of the Eggman Empire and copy more data to become stronger which has a feedback loop of making his personality go more apeshit. Before and after that stint Metal Sonic stays loyal and reserved to Dr Eggman, being pretty much factory reset.
Case in point. The average Sonamyfag hates windshit. It is nothing more than a weapon to remind other shipperfags "Hey, your pairing is OOC" It's easy to find examples of it, just by quote searching "Amy" and "Wind" anywhere on the internet. They don't fucking like it.
>>541636063
>>541636170Man this is the "slowest burn" of all burns. It's still raw, still mooing.
>>541636115Anon that poll cannot be gamed without inadvertently boosting the numbers to an accurate value because you are forced to pick one option. It would take days for a person to actually bot it, that is the entire reason for the format. I'm not even trying to go "Whoa Sally is so popular" but at a point you're going to have to accept some of these characters are more/less liked than you thought
>>541635889This place constantly vocally shitting on it made gravitate away from posting about it, but I do see some fun reactions whenever someone other than Ian doesn't struggle with writing their interactions.
>>541635889According to a recent sthg poll, a lot of people do. They might just be silent
>>541628865>>541629706>>541629779AAAAIIIEEEEEE WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE BROWN TUMBLR DEMON?!! !?? KILL IT KILL IT WITH FIREEEE!!! Do you think Evan comes here and gets sad because we hate her work? lol
>>541636285It's just bullshit, her name pops up more than others. No one ever talks about her other than gooning circles or vile propaganda to get her back on Xitter. Hell, her group has the lowest number of members fucking Taikream has more.
>>541636063Cream is a hard core dude and that's just a fact of life
I feel like it's worth noting that Sally has more content than Rouge on the Booru even if you filter out both Hyoumaru and Scribbleanon. Sthg has always had a massive Archie bias.
>>541636414She's definitely heard all these insults a hundred times over. Being a tumblrina will get you used to it>>541636447Cheese steals the show here.>$2.99La inflacion...
>>541636397>According to a recent sthg pollthat one got botted
>>541636447Cream is just fucking trash and that's just a fact. All we needed was Vanilla.
>>541636094Honestly if go full it's a team dark spinoff they could be attempts to create beings like Shadow but instead of artificial lifeforms it's mutated people. Plus be a lot of fun to have Omega be absolutely ruthless while fighting non robotic beings while still keeping it PG or having Rouge do espionage on HEXAeco. This does remind me I once had an idea for a Sonic villain who was a horseshoe crab named Trojan who was a big bad CEO type like Obadiah Stane or Darrio Agger.
>>541636004Yes look at the hand, that's how she sees Silver and the rest of the cast. It's very grim I know
>>541636397You mean the one that both momthrowers and sonamyfags botted to save their dying ships?
>>541636516What the hell, is everyone ITT metal sonic?
What do I even say kek
>Blaze, my spaghetti is cold. What should I do?
>>541636474Hyoumaru sucks.
>>541636679>turns into the most ridiculous shape"This is the meaning of WAR"
>>541636431I'm gonna be honest anon, I think the only reasonable explanation that could serve your point is the rng spitting up Sally frequently. Even if it did that, her name would appear as multiple options, diluting her overall count.
Will they ever shill Silver?And make him shy and cute?And make him easily flustered for any minimum skin contact interaction?
>>541636692My mom used to make this really good cold pasta with some delicious seasoning on it I should call her tomorrow and ask her how to make it
>>541636602Keep saying it, I'm sure it'll come true.
>>541636554Damn i should draw Hexaeco representatives
>evil groupsTeam Eggman/Eggman EmpireDeadly Six>neutral groupsGUNTeam DarkTeam Babylon Rogues>good groupsThe restsonicbros... we have no fucking villains...
>>541629706Looks like a romanian guy lmaoo
>>541636714Why?>>541636580Impossible. She's clearly horny for sonic boys, I doubt she'd fuck the thing she just dres up there.
>>541636723It's spawning rate is really high, I encountered it numerous times than I did Shadow.
>>541636784>blatantly bot a pol>continue to deny itDo you think everyone is stupid?
>>541636535Can vanilla do THIS?!
>>541636849Isn't that where blaze lives?>>541636846Their attempts to make more keep falling flat.
>>541636714I like Hyoumaru more than Scribbles because even though they both draw Shadally Hyoumaru actually makes them a cute happy couple
How would (YOU) fix IDW?
>>541636965By making the adventures fun, rotating the cast around, and keeping humans out
>>541636731they didthey didthey did>>541636749no, blaze wouldn't say that
>>541636965Remove clothing from all the women. Make them anatomically correct with nipples and pussies. Change nothing else they're just explicitly nude the whole time.
>>541636786That'd be rad, you should try going for a linking theme animal wise and perhaps sprinkle in a sexy office lady. Having a human or two isn't a bad idea as long as they have striking designs. Though really inspiring anyone to draw stuff just makes me feel good so I hope you have fun if you do design the HEXAeco CEO's however you want to approach it.
>>541636957Blaze is supposed to be a middle-eastern princess, so no.
>>541636938No I'm talking about your cope of ships dying. O could care less about a niche poll when the public opinion matters more like this current one being shilled.
>>541636965add humans, remove lesbians, add drama, remove ian, add crackships, remove filler, hire penders
>>541636962>Hyoumaru actually makes them a cute happy coupleThat's one of MANY reasons why he fucking sucks.
>>541636906So you're telling me that the digital service is biased towards Sally? I wonder if AI is involved...
>>541636846Say what you want about Archie, that knew how to build a varied and massive rogues gallery for Sonic that would also be recurring and not just a bunch of one shot villains with a few lucky guys that get to make returns.
Why the fuck are you guys defending Penders? Ian is a bad writer but Ken is a whole other can of worms.
>>541637094>Hire PendersYou're a madman anon! A loose cannon! You should have been off the board years ago! But got dammit that idea just might be crazy enough to work
>>541636965Removing Sonic ever having western comics. Archie was a fucking mistake and IDW is no different. Only Sonic the Comic manages to be passable because no autists latch onto it.
>>541629779Nigga
>>541637072Someone said something about the architecture of her castle.
>>541637186We've lived long enough to see Ken Penders historic revisionism. Love to see it.
>>541636965I'd simply make it self indulgent to me specifically in what I want more of from Sonic in terms of writing, setting, characterisation and spotlighting of the cast.
>>541637117Why don't you want them to be happy?
>>541637072She's Himalayan :D
>>541637050They did but I want more
>>541637194>the only good sonic media is the one no one cares about
>>541637208>>541637295I might be pulling this out of my ass, but I remember an interview saying she is supposed to be an arabian like princess
>>541637292Because Shadow being happy is the most OOC thing you can do to him.
>>541637194>Fleetway passableThat reminds me of when RandomFox said Underground is the only passable Sonic cartoon because Underground fans don't try to change Sonic's character or whatever the fuck
>>541637118I'm only saying I encounter her option and a load of other spin-off characters more than I did Sonic, Knux, Shadow, and Amy. I shit you not I only got Tails once. I frequently got Sally, Lanolin, Danny, Coconuts?, Wade, Rachel, Lah, Starline, etc I got so fucking bored I left after I finally spotted Amy, clicked hers, then closed the window.
>>541637186He's hilarious and cray cray. Ian is Anti-Penders; he's too socially aware and boring. His enchilada stuff was pretty interesting, albeit not executed great. Also, some see Ken as the righteous person in the trial all those years ago.
>>541637118It has been showing more "Danny" to me than any other character. I had to look "Danny from Sonic" on google to discover that he was one of chris' npc friends
>>541637381Don't you want Shadow to find happiness?
>>541637372Why isn't her belly out>>541637381Anon, you think he WANTS to be sad? You think sadness is a personality trait?
>>541633571>infinite initiating phantom Ruby induced gay sissy hypno In the presence of Dow Big Black Cok
>>541637208
>>541637450Didn't encounter a single Metal btw.
Who the fuck is Metal? I'm here for Wanda
>>541637553This would clash with the arabian claims quite a bit. >>541637549Infinite is basically an IDW NPC, I don't know if he really deserves the shadick.
https://all-our-ideas.citizens.is/group/2581You wanted it.
>>541637684>This would clash with the arabian claims quite a bitNot really, arabs in middle east borrowed a lot of Byzantine aesthetics
Chroniclesfag didn't post Sally so now I have to bite my own dick. I warned you
>>541637692>https://all-our-ideas.citizens.is/group/2581>"Chrelen" is an option.Who?
>>541635771>It has to be rough tomboy with punk energy.Says who?Naoto Ohshima already spoke and his input has actual value than some stupid fuck on /sthg/
Ok dulcy whatever you say
>>541637692Can you explain Silvold. Also is Scourrosy Scourge x Rosy (the crazy one)?>>541637801We got Mr Flexible over here. Send pic or it didn't happen
>>541637862Oh man, this statement makes Zan an even more awkward character.
>>541637848Chris x Helen.>>541637909Silver x Gold.Yes.
>>541636945Wow, only good on her debut game then became a mainstay for no reason and never peaked again. Where have I seen this?
I finally get it it why Chaos, Infinite and Mephiles are paired together. They are all genies locked up in an object (Master Emerald, Phantom Ruby and Scepter of Darkness)
Take notes IDW writers, this is how you write Silvaze!
>>541637553So the human counterpart of Blaze would be a Roman princess? Neat.
>>541635842Just don't be crying Sally when movie Sonamy happens, you fucks already had your universe, this one's Amy's.
>>541638147That's a picture not words
I can't believe you would rather let me bite my own dick off than post Sally
Man, some of these shipping rounds are actually hard decisions. I care too much about this...
>>541638165Movienic wasn't the wind anyway, eh.
Holy KINO
>>541637980Dunno who you're referring to but I hope it's not someone vaulted cause cream just came out in dream team and shes one of the most popular characters in Crossworlds. The cream comeback is here
>>541637987I wish they included Marine in the team with Blaze and Silver.
>>541638191I have to pick the lesser of two evils quite often
Sonougefag got uppity this thread, but his ship was nothing but a fad in less than a month before the mob moved onto something else.
I can't wait for Fowler to mischaracterize Amy so bad that the fans stop glazing his movies
>>541638236I was 9 when this comic came out, and I didn't understand what actually happened until many years later.
>>541638236I guess this is how the older fandoms speculated a Sonic vs Robotnik finale
>>541638312>those teethI knew he was british
>>541638260Say that again when most of the fandom ignores her when movie 4 and Frontiers sequel comes out and there's no sign of her in anything Sonic media relevant other than IDW slop.
>>541638191Where are the ship polls?
>>541638236I'm not big on Archie, but the pencil still of Sonic and Robotnik getting blown to hell is pretty cool.
>>541638295Can't wait for you to eat your words unless you won't just cower and pretend you were never in doubt or move onto another agenda.
>>541637692>Shadally not includedlame
>>541638460I added user responses. Go wild.
>>541638374Cream has always had presence in the sonic games though. Sure usually cameos but she's always been shown to be around. She's just coming back and people like her no need to be upset friend. It's okay to like Cream "Wind" Rabbit
>>541638409https://all-our-ideas.citizens.is/group/2581here
>>541638236>>541638297True I was 8 when I read this comic. Sonic comics were cool and very boy brand back then, I also pop my first Boner to Sally. Sad to see the youngins will never experience the Sonic Comic I know, all they have is thinly veiled homosexual propaganda in their comics
>>541638165>He thinks I'm a SonallyfagMAGNUM KEKKUS
>>541638573So you understood what happened to Robotnik at the end of the comic? I sure didn't as a kid.
>>541637692Can Sallyfags not be turbo fucking no-life autists getting vindication from polls? I'm never engaging with these again because you fucks are so fucking sad and pathetic I just laugh at the sheer desperation to still be relevant in the big 25. She's dead, your non-canon spin-offs were all canned, your ship was the worst example in the franchise and good fucking riddance.Dialte.
>>541638169Ian was somehow credited for "writing" animations and comics that have ZERO dialogue, so they should still find that helpful
>>541638726dude what are you mad about I don't even understand
>>541638205Just like Archienic.
>>541638726Tanglebro...
uh oh sonamybesties are having a melty again that nobody likes their stupid ship
>>541638693Not really my little boy brain just think Sonic fighting bad guy is cool and Sally is hot! I used to hate Amy though
>>541638893OOC slop ship.
>>541638236I never read the comics, I just played the games and don't want to understand why people love these nothing comics. If anything I'm glad I didn't wind up like this sad millennials that will die off.
>>541638930Unlike us gamefags, who are immortal.
>>541638930You're trying too hard
If you're an IDWfag you're free to continue insulting archiefags but do not pretend that you are one of us please.
>>541638297>>541638573You fags are almost 40!? Why are you still obsessed with this blue anthropomorphic hedgehog?
>out of nowhere Obsessed. No one was talking about shipping fodder nothingburgers like Surge. You want to know the truth? Only Amy, Honey, and Tikal are the only worthwhile girls to come out of this franchise. Everyone else can either be a non-factor, or overrated shipping garbage like Sally, Surge, lesbian bait IDW slop, and Blaze.
>>541639104No mom, I'm not a 40 year old unmarried, unemployed virgin, I'm windpilled!
>>541639104>why are you enjoying things instead of succumbing to entropy and indifference
Some of these results I might be ruining because the 2 options are a coin flip that I have no feelings for either way.
>>541639138>Overrated shipping garbsge>SurgeAre you retarded? Amy has nothing to her character outside of shipping
>>541638854Ian's failed Amy filter?
Amy finds Sonic's premature ejactulation cute
>>541639215Was he going to push Sonangle?
Can I confess my biggest sin here?I don't actually like Studiopolis. The boss is awesome, but I don't like the Zone, it feels like Spring Yard but without the alternative routes.
>>541639215Tangle is an annoying older Cream (before being ruined by forced lesbianism). Not an Amy replacement.
I just added Shadally to the poll five times just to check what would happen, it ends up appearing multiple times on the poll instead of aggregating the number, so you cannot bot the results by adding a name repeatedly.
>>541639104Wow God forbid men have hobbies
>>541639104Newsflash kid, you'll still like Sonic even when you're 50
>>541639251Same here. Well I do like the visuals for most part.
I got shadally vs shadally, what do i do?
And there she is...
>>541639209Surge literally went from rival to shipping fodder, she'd unironically have more respect as an Amy foil. Amy actually has value, fans that use her for more than shipping, advocate for her to be put in games, movies, etc,. dozens of mods for her. Not even the same fucking ballpark. Don't you ever shit on game characters to prop up some garbage character Sonic Team doesn't even want to use in titles.
>>541639321Looks like I ruined the poll. I don't even like Shadally, I'm a Shadikal fag, I just didn't want to cheat.
>>541639302I was just shocked to find out I am shitposting with people almost twice as old as me.
>>541639251I don't really care to ever replay ManiaLove going back to the classics but with Mania I always get bored after the fourth zone. Good game tho
>>541639321No...the universe will collapse
>>541639319I love Sonic Mania as a while, it's just this zone. Dunno why.
>>541639236oh fuck.. this is so friggin hot bro..
>>541639367Online polls are a total joke.I will NEVER let Mephiles live it down, botting in an attempt to beat Sonicman and then losing anyway.
>>541639351Uhh Bunnie...your clothes? Not that I mind.
>>541639270And Cream's a failed redundant type that got vaulted for a while.
>>541639359Do you even read the words you're saying? Surge is a shonen character. Amy literally only exists for shipping. When you take it away from her she has no personality, just look at Crossworlds. Amy is hardly even a "Character" since part of being a "CHARACTER" is having an actual personality. She doesn't even have that. Your little rapist pink whore is useless without her tired trope. Surge actually has multiple applications, and she hasn't done anything romantic in IDW so you can't call her a shipping character. You are being openly illogical. You sound old too, I bet you're like 29
>>541639505
>>541639480>female wind>"failed redundant type"Tell me you don't understand Cream and didn't play the games without telling me you don't understand Cream and didn't play the games.Filtered by OOC Cream depictions in spin-off material that don't matter like Archie Comics.
>>541639457They are, and that's why I don't waste time with them. Meanwhile I tell someone on the street who anyone other than Sonic, Tails, Shadow, Knuckles, Metal, Amy, Eggman, and Silver are they'd go who?
>>541639236I wish I had a big breasted girlfriend who thinks my premature ejaculation is cute..
Shadally proved this poll is difficult to bot but easy to skew the results. You can't pick which ship wins but you c an make it so that the numbers are always busted
>>541639505God I can't for the life of me take you any kind of serious with all that nonsense spewing even you don't believe in. And yeah, Ian writes a fucking boring Amy, the whole fandom agrees.
>>541639398
>>541638169I think every idw writers should consult to miijiu regarding the Silvaze Characterization
>>541639676I'm not stupid enough to think Sonurge will ever be canon. Maybe a crush, that is all. I'm not fucking around though, Sonamy is forced and I'm glad it got toned down. Boring shit.She loves him, that's the whole ship. No dynamic or anything.
>>541639559Cream doesn't matter or isn't any relevant for me to even want to care about her. She just tries hard to be cute when Amy's far more prominent in that department so much so Sega will step in and demand you make her cuter. If it's not Amy, Honey, or Tikal. Then get the fuck outta here with your bullshit.
>>541639764why?
>>541639786Just watch Dimitri's video if you really want an in-depth look into their dynamic because I'm not bothering with someone disingenuous like you.
>>541639849Miijiu is an Expert
Yeah, really proving Surge has any worth outside being a wish-fulfillment trophy wife.
>>541640015Is that problem?
Is this IC for sonic?
>>541639764Ok, asking the wrong guy since I won't give any opinions or responses you'd wanna hear to be honest
>>541640015Unlike Sonamy retards I already know it won't happen in canon. Surge will maybe get a crush or acceptance at best. In real canon Surge hates Sonic and will need character development. That is WHY the ship is compellng, because Surge stands as a character on her own. If Sonic didn't exist I would still be interested in her. Amy is boring without her obsession with Sonic
>>541639764>>541639964Miiju is a hack who hates Blaze
>>541639838Type that again but this time without the crying.
>anyone ever vouches for a sonic girl >all ship them with sonic It's just this bleak, at least Amyfags have the fact that it's a core trait of hers to love him. Anything else just reeks of I want my favorite girl to be with him instead.
Ranking shenanigans aside, I'm kinda glad Silvadow is currently in last place
>>541640132Why can't frontiers just be this? >>541640195Why?
I can't decide...shadally or corpo shadally?
We love Silver here right?
>>541640249What rankingWhere
>Sonally first>Sonaze secondDamn, what's it with Sonic and princesses that makes them so compatible.
>>541640164>ship is compellng, because Surge stands as a character on her own. That's why her arc totally wasn't fumbled and is now completely directionless carried entirely by shipping.
>>541629973
plain shadally vs jazz shadally
>>541640015*punching bag that doubles as a fleshlight
>>541640290HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I really didn't mean to fuck up the poll with Shadally
>>541640386Sonic's lust is reserved solely for princesses or human woman
>>541640273Because she makes Blaze cry in every Silvaze porn she draws
>>541640164>because Surge stands as a character on her own....she really doesn't.
>>541640451fprgpt [ic
Mephilver vs Shadilver
>>541640132Yes. Sonic loves human women. And, much like Anon, he has a hard time distinguishing their age before lusting after another species.
>>541640337Under the 'Results' tab on the poll site
>>541640484You are not funny
>>541640290why do people hate him exactly?
>>541640582 (Me)forgot pic** and forgot to look at keyboardcorpo shadally vs fancy shadallypoll anon, you broke the poll so bad there's like 3 shadallys in here
>>541640649Appeared in the worst fucking game in the entire franchise and attacked the protagonist for terrible reasons because of the poor writing.
I don't hate Surge, but shit on a character of magnitude like Amy who actually has a legacy to prop up your niche non-canon waifu and I'll come after you. In fact I care more about Surge to not want her to wind up some lame as fuck trophy wife when she should've stayed an antagonist and bounce off better as am Amy rival rather than having some brainwa Sonic hateboner because Ian can't help but not write something actually interesting but just diet Scourge. Regurgitating yet more Sonic rivals when Shadow, Knux, and Metal already existed perfectly.
>>541640682I'm not the poll guy, I just added Shadally 5 times to see if 5 would show up or if it would show up more frequently
>>541640682Don't blame me, blame this site for being retarded.They enshittified it compared to the old site and don't let me approve or deny choices. All moderation is AI and the AI is too retarded to filter repeat options.I do admit my fuck up was not just including a more exhaustive shiplist (including Shadally) from the beginning and not allowing user answers. That was an accident on my part.
>582 votesMein gott, seek employment
>>541640649He is misunderstood
>>541640715that's it?
>>541640715Has a lame design being just another hedgehog but with a repetitive storyline regarding bad futures plus tends to black hole character focus when he appears in comics and games
I'm vaguely curious how this poll would fare sampling other communities
>>541640729>character of magnitudeI don't hate Amy but I hate how Amyfags "in the games" on a pedestal as if the games have perfect writing when they don't
>>541640805You have had to been around for the games release. The 15th anniversary of your favorite franchise just dropped a shitty generational fumble of a game and this new character is the face of it. It's going to get alot of hate.>>541640824I mean...If you're IDW Silver sure.
>>541640886i guess that's fairbut like, he looks cool man, and he has a cool ability, shame
I didn't see Shadally on the poll, so I'm going to add Shadally to it myself thank you very much!
>>541640863IDW writing really doesn't have a place to talk any shit. And yeah, people know Amy more, love her, will argue her character portrayals, make fun mods with her, she's objectively better.
>>541640920I agree I like Silver. It's just sad he really only shines in Archie Sonic solo stories/secret Freedom Fighters stories.
>>541631820Ken is keeping her in-character.
>>541640886Archie Silver was also bad for it, he took up so much attention and had so many dedicated arcs while being a dumbass that caused problems trying to find a traitor in the past as his main storyline.
>>541640795Shippers aren't suitable for having civilian interaction.
Sonic 06 was good>>541640824He is Sonic's grandson so he looks like sonic
>>541640290Yes we do
cute and canon
>>541640206Cream sucks. Cry about that I don't like her.
>>541641172i honestly don't get art like this
>>541641039>Archie Silver was also bad for itWRONG.>>541641104WRONG again. People have had history rewritten by that one project 06 mod lmao. The game is ass. Blaze is the only fun character to play as and she isn't even plot relevant at all.
>>541640649Misunderstood hero>>541640715Shut up shhh just shut up
>>541641172fuck Shadria holy fuck. Stop forcing this shit.
>Lanolin hanging around Sonic and his friends>cringes and hates them all>Lanolin hanging around Knuckles or Team Dark>drops her spaghetti and gets psycho-analyzed by Knuckles or Shadow
Requesting this for the next OP
>>541641236I refuse to let anyone say Sonic 06 was good. You are fucking delulu if you think for a minute that objective disaster of a game is good.
>>541641367Some of its music was good.
>>541641367SEETHING
>>541641403Now post her getting blasted by Slifer the Sky Dragon
>>541641218I give you props for defending Silver while also pointing out his messy debut, admittedly I fully dislike him so would struggle to compliment the character besides his gloves, having some cool action scenes/use of his powers and that they could give him probably a cool Kang esque villain if they tried.
>>541641410Anon, great music is a staple for Sonic. That doesn't save the game from being spaghetti coded and the plot being so dogshit it removed itself from canon within it's own story.>>541641474AGAIN I like Silver. I don't like historical revisionism. >>541641541I love Silver but I fucking hate people defending an objectively bad game. Like Sonic 06 sucks because it's a broken piece of shit game with a dogshit story. It's only saving graces are the music, and silver. But I would literally trade away SIlvers existence if it meant this game never saw the light of day
>>541641410I liked the creature and robot design even if it's very jarring compared to every other Sonic game.
>>541641306SHADOW WOULDNT CARE FOR BABY SILVEROOOOCCCC
I'm actually really annoyed it took IDW THIS long to include Sage in the comics. She's been around for 2 years now I wonder why they hadn't bothered till now.
>>541641614>Anon, great music is a staple for Sonic.Then explain Crossworlds.
>>541641682Because they're just going to fuck her up.
I wonder how many Sonic fans especially artists care about the games and how many just like the characters and love drawing them
>>541641306>The fandom consensus accepts the headcanon of Silver descending from Shadow. but will ship Shadow with whomever they feel like
I hate Sonamy
>>541641717>A game with remixes of already good songs>A spin-off gameAnonymous...please.
>>541641756Nobody asked
How is she so iconic?
>>541641638Says who?
>>541641818BasedI added her to the poll just nowhttp://allourideas.org/soniccharacters
>>541641818Literally who???
>>541635938>Silver is straight confident and assertivelmao
Sonic has to change for Sonamy to work. Sonurge has logically no issues for that problem
>>541641735In the future two dads can have a biological son
>>541641614I feel like the 06 defending is a symptom of the aggressive vitriol Sonic got for a while but even then Sonic fans still need to be objective and know that it was a disaster of a game that though commendably ambitious is also a narrative mess, a buggy disaster and damaged the franchise massively. You can like elements of it or try to find praise but ultimately it is a bad game as a whole regardless. Also I'll say that Silver managing to survive that game as his debut despite my thoughts on him is admirable, plus I do think Sonic characters if they can be used well or bring something shouldn't be discarded needlessly.
>>541641682She's just a bootleg of an Archie character given a shitty pedobait redesign. There's nothing original about her, like everything the nips have come up with since Knuckles. Why bother including her when there are no interesting stories to tell?
>>541641958except for the fact Surge feels nothing for Sonic beyond genuine hate.
>>541641958Sonurge requires Surge be ridiculously OOC.Her love interest is Kit.
>>541642105>>541642136Character. Development.
>>541642087Imblying the nips give a fuck about Archie kuso manga enough to know, let alone copy, anything from it www.
Is Wade actually a better character than Silver?
Drippy's 10 incher > Sonic micropenis
>>541642194OOC is not "character development" no matter how much you shills try to push it as such.
>>541637692>Critics claim the relationship dynamics can become repetitive, with plotlines revolving around common themes without much evolution.There is a perception that the pairing doesn't allow Sonic to fully explore his adventurous and freedom-loving nature.Some fans feel that Sally's character can sometimes appear too controlling or overbearing in the relationship, which may stifle Sonic's individuality.>The long-distance aspect of their relationship could be seen as a barrier, making it impractical and less feasible in the story.Both characters have strong individual storylines that might be diluted when focused on a romantic angle.Sonic's laid-back nature could clash with Blaze's more serious demeanor, leading to a lack of harmony in their interactions.All correct btw
>>541642265I hope you're not baiting, because I can actually debate you about this. Sonurge works because Amy wants Sonic to change, for her. Surge is the one who would develop, not Sonic. Sonic stays the same.
Metal Sonic
>>541642002Sonamy is a conservative trad ship.
>>541642351Making Surge OOC or changing Surge is just as bad as making Sonic OOC.As an actual Surge fan, I oppose Surge being OOC.It doesn't matter if Sonic having a one night stand with a punk girl or wanting to redeem a rival is 'in character' if said rival being 'redeemed' (I.e. becoming a Sonic Simp) is intrinsically against their character pitch. Sonurge requires the destruction of everything interesting about Surge (her being a rival character who compares and contrasts with Sonic, her angst over her creation, and her frustration with the wind). "Sonurge" requires lobotomizing Surge of everything that makes her Surge. Being an attention whore wannabe hero who gets off on thrills and fame. This is not compatible with the wind.
>>541642240nips like Scourge and Sallyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ_1Osj8Lyw
>>541642351>because Amy wants Sonic to changeYou're confusing Amy with Sally.
>>541641735Exactly
>>541641926Every sonic character is straight, gayboy, and yes silver is assertive assuming you played the games and ignore IDW
>>541642569No, he's right about Amy. The issue is he acts like because Sonic isn't OOC in Sonurge that somehow Sonurge is "good". It isn't because it requires Surge to be OOC. Surge hates Sonic. This is intrinsic to her character. This goes beyond Starline's programming since she rents how reckless he is, views him as a hypocrite, and does not like the wind.
Chroniclesfag?
IC Sonic doesn't fuck with romance, at all.At best, you can be one of his FWBs.
>poll is nothing but cope validation >two of sonic's biggest ships are at the bottom because obvious reasons and actual fans don't need to waste their time on some poll when they're already at the top of the fandom
>>541642702Resents, not rents. My bad.
>>541642702>No, he's right about Amy.Amy doesn't want to change Sonic. Even Ian can get this right, you know you have a problem if he's getting that over you.
>>541642907Sonic does live in Surges head rent free.
>>541642976Amy wants to anchor the wind. Amy wants Sonic to no longer have the heart of a boy. What Amy wants (marriage) is impossible without Sonic changing.
>>541642569No I am not, it's just that Sallyfags at least admit that what they want for Sonic is different from the games' personality of Sonic. Sally wants Sonic to be changed and become serious, everyone knows this. Amy wants Sonic to stop running from her and marry her. She tried to use the magic river to do this forcibly in Sonic X which was written by Sonic Team members. Amy WANTS Sonic to change, that is part of her character.This is a tangent but I believe Ian was right and Sonamy is a game of cat and mouse that goes on too long with no real character developments, they just stay the same and Amy could just move on and do something more interesting. >>541642498Surge is still a freshly cooked new character right out of the oven, she has room to change. You say it's OOC, I say you are wrong. Surge wants to be a hero. Surge wants to help people. Surge wants to "replace" Sonic but she can't do that. You know that it is impossible for Surge to replace Sonic or to kill Sonic or change Sonic's mind. This means Sonic is going to be the one who probably changes Surge. At some point she will have to do something else. Right now she is trying to be a hero. She is pretending to be one of Amy's team but she genuinely smiled of happiness when she saved people. That is not "her original pitch" That is genuine joy that she made the world better for once. Surge is moving past her villain mindset and becoming more.Plus, Surge is already brainwashed, Clutch has the secrets of her past. She could learn more about who she was and how different she used to be. She might have cared a lot about Sonic in the past. Imagine if in the past she imagines herself in a meadow and she encountered Sonic when she looked different.
>>541642815According to CrossWorlds Amy's his favorite, so she has that glory.
>>541642561>SallyLol, no. Scourge was the one who was full on glazed in that video.
>>541643059
>>541641208Some people like boys crossdressing
>>541643059You don't believe in anything you say. >>541643086You're using fucking SonicX in your argument. Discarded. You're either the same faggot stirring up drama, or you want to bait Sparky out. Stop spreading bullshit about Amy, she literally hates boredom and yearns for adventure. Read a fucking game manual and fuck right off with your non-canon sources.
>>541643095I don't remember that.
>>541643086Stop writing fanfiction and actually read the comic if you want to speak as an authority on the character.Surge doesn't want to be a genuine hero, she wants to BE BELOVED. She craves the fans and the attention, everything Sonic is indifferent to. She is the antithesis of the wind. Sonic isn't going to "change" her.She's selfish and cares about nothing but her own ego and her partner Kitsunami's wellbeing and happiness.This is the exact kind of OOC shipping that rots the franchise. Keep your headcanons to yourself.
How's it feel to know you're so far in your headcanon fucking Ian Flynn can get Amy better than you shippertards.
>>541643384>Stop writing fanfictionDon't you know where you are?
>>541643448>Ian>Getting anything betterLmao.
>>541643305You're ignoring my argument to double down on your point about a strawman you made up. I know Amy wants Adventure. I know she isn't the same as Sally, she doesn't want Sonic to become a mission focused king, but Amy wants Sonic to be with her. Why are you discarding Sonic X? Sonic X is the most legitimate characterizations of Sonic characters. It is as close to the games as you can get. The reason it is different with Surge is because Amy is already established. She is done, she will never make progress with Sonic. Surge is making progress right now. She won't kiss Sonic or something like that but she will admit that Sonic matters to her in some way.
>>541643384But the comic is just so terrible...
>>541643514Who knows, Ian? Maybe this is my next movie.
>>541643359>can't play favorites, Amy>>541643514Hard to believe but that's how retard your guy's takes on Amy be making him look better.
>>541643587>making him look betterIn another dimension, maybe.
>>541643515Yeah, I remember SA1 and SA2 Amy being as flanderized as X made her. Fuck outta here with your stupid-ass statement.
>>541643234ok and the other half?
>>541643515>"Sonic X is the most legitimate characterizations of Sonic characters. It is as close to the games as you can get."You lost the argument the second you typed this. Sonic X is fanfiction where the writers force Sonic into a domestic drama with a human kid. It's the absolute antithesis of Sonic's character. He's not a someone who needs to be tied down to a person or a place, he's the wind.Even SatAM understood Sonic's core better. He came and went as he pleased and only helped on occasion. He wasn't an emotional support animal for a bratty tween.X isn't "close to the games". It's a garbage adaptation that filtered the Adventure era through a lens that fundamentally misunderstands why people like Sonic. Your entire point is built on one of the worst depictions of the character.
>>541643384Yes, I know that's why she wants to be a hero, but she genuinely wants to be a hero. She stops to help people on her free time. Surge said "we don't deserve this" when a kid greeted her. Surge knows right and wrong and she wants to be right, but she has to do this one thing. She wants to be beloved, she can seek that warmth. Tell me, who is the ultimate source of warmth in Sonic? Sonic. Surge was nervous and awkward, why? Because of a child. She saw a child looking up to her and realized she needs to be better if she wants to get more interactions like this. Surge wants to change. Surge IS changing. They're not going to just shut the door on everything she's built. If Surge is reaching out her hand for help Sonic is the kind of guy who will grab it, she will just see that. If she sees that she might finally get her chance. She might be embarassed about it, shy about accepting help from the man she hates, but when she allows herself to be open and vulnerable she can accept help from him to better herself. And Sonic WILL live up to any promises he keeps.
>>541643669Then stop having retarded takes on Amy, then.She doesn't want to change who he is, she may have wanted to be with him but marriage was always a callback to her banter with him in Prison Island. You faggots just got filtered like a lot of people did to this day we're still arguing of Amy's motives with game manuals are all there and nothing mentions her fundamentally wanting to change or anchor him.
Sonic is the wind is the worst part of canon sonic's character ngl. It's just an excuse for SEGA to not develop Sonic's character anymore.
>>541643880ok what's with the wind stuff?
>>541643201hot
And see I can't take anything of what you chucklefucks say at any value because you're IDW fans first talking about your Surge ships at this hour.
>>541643912Basically Sonic is free as the wind. He go where he wants and isn't tied down by anything. A fine idea on paper but in practice it means Sonic doesn't have a set home, character motivations (aside from adventuring ig),or core cast.
>>541643787Your entire argument is based on a piece of fanart and your own fanfiction.Surge doesn't want to be a hero, she wants to be a celebrity. She wants the adoration Sonic gets without any of the selflessness. It's a performance. She's not changing, she's just trying a new tactic to placate her massive fucking ego.>"The ultimate source of warmth"?Sonic isn't a therapist for every villain with a sob story. He's the wind. He's free from the need for public adoration that Surge is a slave to. He is not going to waste his time placating the huge ego of someone he considers a terrible selfish person. They are fundamentally incompatible.You're so desperate for another "Shadow redemption" arc that you're misreading every single panel. She's not reaching out for help, she's manipulating people for fame. Sonic would see her as just another person trying to tie him down with her insecurities and nonsense, like Tails and Amy have before, the antithesis of his entire philosophy. Stop projecting your shipping fantasies onto the comic. Surge, unlike Tails and Amy, fucking hates Sonic and loathes the wind.Your entire post is built off headcanon and misinterpretations of the character. Sonic is not "warm", he is the wind, and the wind is cold. Like Cream, the female wind. Polite, perhaps. Kind, at times. But certainly not "warm". At least, not in a traditionally anchored sense.
Why are Evan and Ian so at war regarding Surge's direction, anyway?
>>541643729You're ignoring my point. Sonic X is created by Sonic Team, Sonic X represents what it means for Sonic Team characters. How is Amy out of character in Sonic X? You're talking about Sonic, I'm talking about Amy. >>541643840She is right though, Amy wants Sonic to be with her and be tied down to her. Amy also wants Sonic to stop talking to other women so that they can be purely together. Amy wants to RESTRICT Sonic. She is not as extreme as Sally desire but Amy is more to Sally's side of things than Surge is. Surge hates Sonic and doesn't understand Sonic. Surge is confused of Sonic and upset by him and is programmed for hating him. Surge needs to learn and grow past these and who knows what she will be like once she is free?
>>541643729>that fundamentally misunderstands why people like Sonic.It was liked enough to force Sega into making a third season. You guys rag on x for making sonic more domestic and grounded and then Sega did it again with the movies maybe they just got sick of windnic the homeless psycho and want to move him in a different direction?
>>541644005oh I thought it was meant literally, like he's the personification of freedom and the windI don't know i think i heard it once from somewhere that it was literal wouldn't be the weirdest bullshit from this world
>>541644103No, Sonic is literally the wind. The movement of oxygen in the atmosphere? Sonic becomes that when he dies. That happens in 06, remember? Sonic literally turned into the wind.
>>541644059Stop quoting me, you fucktarded shipper.
>>541640240
>>541644059Your entire idea of Surge "developing" is based on a throwaway character detail (her being a cyborg) that was mandated by SEGA purely because Flynn wasn't allowed to have Starline make a robot as powerful as Eggman's. So he had to come up with another lifeform for them to classify as. This isn't some 'deep secret hidden motivation for Surge' or a chance at an amazing backstory to explore. This is filler. A mandate quota. What you see is what you get, and Surge will always be a self-centered attention whore who loves herself and Drippy.Your changes require CHANGING SURGE to be FUNDAMENTALLY OUT OF CHARACTER to fit your HEADCANON BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SURGE TO BE A CHARACTER YOU CONSIDER "BETTER"If you want Sonic to be shipped with a BRATTY PUNK GIRL then MAKE A NEW CHARACTER don't RUIN AN EXISTING CHARACTER WITH OOC HEADCANONS
>>541644028Ian wanted a Great Value Scourge and Evan is someone who can't keep villains evil (she redeemed Scourge in her fancomic).
Surge will never have her own identity again, just a fucking shipping tool for the pleasure of her troon audience or sad fucks that got hard to a girl calling them a faggot.
>>541643918Now you know why Cream is so well-behaved.
>>541644457even hotter
>>541644418>Surge will never have her own identity again,She barely had one to begin with. She was constantly coming up with new reasons for doing everything she did, or otherwise failed to do.
>>541644483Cream appreciates Vanillas spankings and even thanks her mother for them afterwards
>>541644059>How is Amy out of character in Sonic X? You're talking about Sonic, I'm talking about Amy.Watch her in the Adventure games first before even spouting retarded disingenuous shit like this like you didn't already get rightfully called out here: >>541643729Hell, Amy couldn't even do her SA2 speech with Shadow because she's so far removed from her game counterpart she doesn't even have an under of value for humanity. Kill yourself.
>>541644152well that's a bit goofywould explain his powers though and his instant friendship with chip, though Sonic is easy to befriend and easy in making them
>>541644023>You're so desperate for another "Shadow redemption" arc that you're misreading every single panel.People told me I was wrong when I said Surge wants to be a hero after issue 56, then the Riders series happened and we saw "We're heroes". I don't think I'm misinterpreting panels, I believe I'm reading into it and theorycrafting. What makes Surge unique is that she doesn't understand what she wants. That is of the core of her character, because what she wants is ruined by the brainwashing done on her by Dr. Starline. Surge is not thinking with logic, she is acting on instinct. Here is my interpretation. When she sad "We're heroes" that was not an act, she said that without thinking about it. She is even blushing. Why? Because that is how she feels, she is speaking freely and suddenly. Why would she pretend to say that? Nobody is a round to fool.Yes her PLAN is to pretend to be on Amy's team so that she can kill Sonic, but you know that plan is going to fail and they already dropped hints about the direction. Surge was surprised that Amy was being genuine, Surge was stopping to help people in the crashed vehicle even though she gains nothing from this. She doesn't understand what it means to be a hero so she treats it as an issue of fame. Where did you get that Surge is a slave to this adoration? She enjoys it, but she is not a slave to it. She still attacked Sonic that day. >>541644320You don't think what Sega wants with Surge matters to her character? It's Sega. Sega owns Surge what Sega says is important. Surge wants to know who she was before she became a cyborg, Clutch held that over her head.You think Sonic is cold?>CHANGING SURGESurge can still be the tough bratty but respectable loud rude girl. What I want for Surge is to be able to let go of the hatred for Sonic. She doesn't have to be his girlfriend but it would be more interesting if she is insecure about loving him. She can behave angrily and try to pretend she still hates.
>>541644850>it would be more interesting if she is insecure about loving himWay to destroy your post.
>>541642837The only one you actually see a decent amount of is sonaze. The other top five are either dead, irrelevant, or both. Contrarian shipfags hound this place.
>>541644646Indeed. She has to stay in the corner with her skirt up, and once five minutes have passed, she has to bow while saying "thank you for spanking me!"And yes, even if there are guests around.
This stupid thread is such garbage.How'd it get so bad in here Moltar?
>>541645023Wasn't like that when I was vocal about Sonamy, maybe it's because as I said we don't need any vindication, we're already big, we'll talk about new nods to the pairing when it's shown.
Shadow's personality "Changed" when they fixed the "problem" in his life. When Shadow mistook what Maria wanted to destroy the earth. He changed and became a better guy. Look how he is in 06. Surge still has the "problem" in her life. Her desire to understand herself and her past isn't solved. We know she will never kill Sonic. We know she won't change Sonic's mind. We know she won't hurt and betray Amy. Most of problems here are gone. What matters now is what Surge CAN do. She can stay a villain but do you think that is compelling? Really? With all of the work they have set up for her?I like the idea of Surge being the same but when it comes to Sonic, she is shy about her real feelings. She is embarrassed to admit that she likes it when he hugs her and is kind to her. She is shy to admit that she loves talking to him because he is easy to talk to. After character development! Surge doesn't act like this now because she has not reached a point of self acceptance yet. She must reach that before we can get carried away, that is just my personal desires of Surge. I think what is realistic to happen is that she will learn to accept Sonic is not so bad and try to be a hero for the right reasons. She already wants to do this but she's doing it for the wrong reasons. She might have a look in her face looking at Sonic. A smile and maybe she puts her arms behind her back. Nothing too much more than that, that would not be what Sonic is about.
>>541644974I'm talking about what would be interesting, not exactly what will happen
>>541645210Trifecta ships are obviously safe. Doesn't stop people from shilling crackpairings.
>>541642907You said you are a fan of Surge, but you want Surge to suffer. I want Surge to be happy. That's that. She will never be happy if she lives forever hating Sonic.
Thread in a nutshellhttps://voca.ro/1fbCQ9g3egWn
>>541645218>When Shadow mistook what Maria wantedShadow didn't think Maria had a last wish, he tried to kill everyone because that's what he thought humanity deserved for killing Maria, he did not think that Maria asked him to kill them.
I would like if the final panel of IDW is something sweet between Sonic and Surge. No kissing. Maybe just a look. She gives him a high five and giggles, then right back to normal.
>>541645663
Douge
>>541635039Did you completely miss the disastrous controversy that happened with the Misadventures and Phantom Riders arc?
>>541645117>Amy when she sees Cream is going to get a spanking
So in Crossworlds I got Super Sonic and also got his golden car (which stat-wise is actually worse than Sonic's normal car.)Barring the fact I don't have all the vehicle parts unlocked, it feels like there's nothing worthwhile left to do in the game now. Those AI skins sure don't feel worth grinding for.
>>541645297NTA but I think they’re referring to how you’re just openly saying you just want things a certain way because you think it’s more interesting rather than if it’s something the character would actually do. You want her OOC because you’re not satisfied with the character she is. You don’t like the actual character
>>541646078>"Finally, a good show! I was so bored of just drinking tea and waiting! Where's the popcorn?">"You go, Cream! Harder!"
>>541646071>the disastrous controversy that happened with the Misadventures and Phantom Riders arcWhat "controversy"?
>>541646090You're supposed to go online and race other players though aren't you? That's the whole point isn't it, to be better than your fellow racer, to reach the top and show everyone that you're the best.
>>541646010Cute N Canon!
>>541646139Watching cream is very easy if she ever gets fussy just give her a few sharp spanks and she settles down and gets very demure
>>541646181The fact that all the problems with Mimic and Clutch could have been completely avoided if the good guys practiced basic communication, on top of half the plot being taken hostage by Diamond Cutter crying nonsense that ultimately went nowhere by the time both arcs ended.
>>541646195But I'm not the best.I win like maybe 1 in every 10 or 20 races I run. Come perfectly close to winning a lot, but then I get hit by a ghost or weight or spinning blade just as I reach the final stretch of the goal, and I've already lost.Not much tickets to be gained from online either, I get just as much from running the race park.I don't feel satisfaction, just frustration being tripped up by game mechanics I can't do nothing against. No point.
>>541646328Or take your belt off, fold it, and clack it.
>>541646337Gee, an IDW-Sonic plot not going anywhere, who could have seen that coming.
6am on a sonic thread has some crazy vibes. SonicxSurge fags arguing, Karl posting, and spanking fetishists. It's time for bed.
That's the longest I've seen a Sonurge argument go without someone bringing up rape
>>541646561I'd rape you, if that's enough to make you happy.
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Sonurge is a ship I’ve only seen exist here, I’ve never seen anyone talk about the ship on any other platform. Yeah there’s a few nobody amateurs artists on twitter with pencil sketches, but it gets 0 discussion or anything really. It’s just autists here. It’s even more niche than the dogfucker ship
>>541646890It's huge on twitter.
>>541646406Too dangerous. The second you pull your belt off she pulls her undies down, it's like rabbit instincts.
>>541646926Gotta leave Cream belt her herself.
>>541646890>Dogfucker shipThe fucking what?
>>541647106Shadria
"Windnic the Homeless Psycho" is the funniest thing on this thread
>>541646921>hugeIt gets about 1-2 decent non ai art a month. Compare that to any other known ship, it’s got basically nothing
I swear some of you people have the comprehension skills of a rock.
>>541647140Oh lmao. Why is Shadria called dogfucker though? Shadow is a hedgehog alien thing. Is this because Maria is a white woman?
>>541647280It's mostly just to piss off Krack since she keeps spamming it.
>>541647280Yeah, I don’t actually hate shadria though. But white woman fucking animals is too easy of a joke to pass up kek
>>541647168What is funny about Sonic's actual character?Sonic isn't a psycho. He just isn't overly emotional or bogged down with worldly concerns. OOC pushers need to learn to respect his actual character.>>541647349Other people like Shadria. I like Shadria. Shadow and Maria are incredibly likeable characters. Maria is cute, kind, and sympathetic. Shadow is boyish, sweet, and charming.
I don't like Shadria because the age gap is too uncomfortable maria is like 12 and shadow is 0 years old.
>>541647501Sonic and Pic related are literally the same and I think that's a problem
Real!
>>541647640Sonic isn't sadistic. Sonic's character isn't going to change. If you don't like it, leave. What you see is what you get. Just a kind hearted hedgehog who loves adventure.
>>541647983No, he isn't, he's just a sociopath. He does what he wants, when he wants, regardless of what others think. He just HAPPENS to be positively aligned, morally. Same as yujiro, just replace adventure with strong opponents and make him morally compromised and boom, exactly the same character
>>541648175Sonic is nice to people tho
>>541647640Shadow is more like Yujiro, and not just because they're both voiced by Kirk.
>>541648398Because he wants to be. Same as yujiro. Yujiro is a free roamer who runs around looking for things to fight like giant mammoth elephants or cavemen, he doesn't even have a proper house he occupied a penthouse suite because people are too scared to kick him out of it. Because he wants to, and because he wants to, he can. He doesn't get tied down or takes orders or can be controlled in any way other than giving him what he already wants. >>541648407Shadow works for the government dude. He's literally tied down by Maria's last wish for him.
>>541648767>Shadow works for the government dudesometimes. when he feels like it. or when rouge convinces him that it's important. he is not a formal gov agent. more like a mercenary. just like how Yujiro is
>>541648869>>541648767>>541648407>>541648175>>541647640What's a Yujirou?
>>541648869>when rouge convinces him that it's importantSee this already makes him less Yujiro. You don't convince Yujiro of anything, you give him what he wants, a physical challenge and if it's not what he wants he kills you for getting in the way of doing what he wants. Shadow compromises all the time. He wanted to destroy the world for taking Maria away from him, but it was Marias desire for him to protect the world that supercedes his own desire. Shadow starts off compromising, Yujiro does not, because it's it's the antitheses of what it means to be strong. Being strong means that nobody can tell you what to do, and to know you're stronger than anyone all you have to do is make people do what you want, which he does. That's why he calls baki "the strongest" because baki "made" him cook for him. It was imaginary tofu, but baki still made him do it and it's the only time Yujiro ever compromised, but even then he won, because he got what he wanted, a fight that could push him to that point.
>>541649167He's from an action manga about extremely muscular men beating the shit out of each other and pissing all the time. Sometimes on each other.
>>541649192Yujiro is Scourge?
>>541649316I haven't read that far into archie
>>541648767>Sonic being a free spirit is bad because another character who's a free spirit is evulSpoken like a true secondary trying to talk about stuff that isn't Sonic the Hedgehog and slander the wind baselessly. You have no argument for why the wind is bad besides 'the wind is le joker'. The wind isn't the joker. The wind is a force of good.Play the fucking games.>Well, I don't show off. Don't criticize.>I'm just livin' by my own feelings.>And I won't give in, won't compromise.>I just only have a steadfast heart of gold.>I don't know why. I can leave though it might be tough.>But I ain't outta control. Just living by my world.>Don't ask me why. I don't need a reason.>I got my way, my own way.You don't understand Sonic the Hedgehog if you think he's some self-centered jerk. He rejects traditional societal morality in favor of his own moral compass. But he still has a moral compass. When Sonic says 'it doesn't matter', he isn't talking about nihilism. He's talking about societal pressure to fit the mold. He's a rebel. But he's a good rebel. Against the oppressive forces that seek to keep the world bound and the people down. You just don't like the wind. You don't like Sonic the Hedgehog. Get the fuck out of this board.
>>541649389>The wind is goodIt's a force of nature you tard. It can be either depending on who it helps or fucks over. Tornados. Sonic just happens to be a good guy. Force of nature characters are still shit as protagonist because you can't do anything with them besides the same thing you always do
>>541649597>Force of nature protagonists are shit because they're episodic adventure protagonists.Just admit that you don't like Sonic the Hedgehog and find a different franchise to obsess with.The wind is good because all characters demonstrated to embody the wind are good-hearted.Sonic. Cream. Both morally upstanding individuals.
>>541649316dude likes to own stuff, be in charge, hot women and proving that he is the strongest.
>>541649597>Force of nature characters are still shit as protagonist because you can't do anything with them besides the same thing you always doSega is aware of that, and that's exactly why ideally the story is not about him specifically. There's a reason they gave Paramount the ultimatum of "make Sonic a kid or have a secondary lead for him to influence".
>>541649715You can be an episodic adventure protagonist without being a sociopath.
>>541649884Yeah sonic is at his best when the story is less about him and more about his friends.
>>541649895Sonic isn't a fucking sociopath. Sonic saves civilians for fun. Sonic's a fun-loving, kind hearted, adventurer.Play.The.Fucking.Games.Watch.SatAM.Read.Blade.Of.Courage.Watch.The.Adventures.Of.Sonic.The.Hedgehog.Engage with Actual, Existing, Sonic the Hedgehog material.Play the fucking games.
>>541649526Why are blobian boys so gay?
I think I understand it now. The far and few Tikalfags were on to something with this one.
>>541650023Why would I watch American westoid garbage for characterization of a Japanese video game mascot? Also I do read blade of courage, sonic comes off as psychotic in that one too.
>>541650240Sonic is not a psychopath in blade of courage. He helps Yuuta save the planet.SatAM and AoSTH are not 'garbage'. They are remarkably in-character for WINDnic.You don't have to watch them as long as you PLAY THE GAMES. Both are still better than the failing IDW comics, though.
>>541650240>sonic comes off as psychotic in that one too."Just" Sonic?
>>541650334He breaks into a child's bedroom, eats their food and steals their bed just because he feels like it. He's a creepy psycho.
>>541650665>He breaks into a child's bedroom, eats their food and steals their bed just because he feels like it. He's a creepy psycho.Sonic is based off Michael JacksonIn character behavior
>>541628865Holy hell that Silver
>>541650750>GET READY FOR MY TRIPLE S SPINNING COCK ATTACK YUUTA>HYAA HYAA HYAA>HEY ILL RAPE YOU AGAIN SOME OTHER TIMEDu-du du-du DUH DUH DUH*Pling*
>>541628865Fuck is up with everything on him?
>Sonic is YujiroHe fits these types of people more
>>541629619>yeonwu08Hey i know this person, this the guy who draws Silver cucking fanart. She tried to deny it at first but eventually stopped including Silver in her Sonaze AUs. She got me blocked by the way. Why are sonaze sisters like this?
>>541651156Shes thought of you exactly one time, when she blocked you. You think of her every time she's brought up. Who's the bigger loser you think?
>>541651156>SheI don't know about that faggots problem but i took a look and he's saying that they hate him because he doesn't ship Silvaze, it was never fucking mentioned once nor anyone cared in the first place, loser thinks he's clever, even right now he's trying to sexualize Blaze less due to the back clash that their fans are gooners.
they're going to ruin nick and judy's relationshipthey're going to ruin nick and judy's relationshipthey're going to ruin nick and judy's relationshipthey're going to ruin nick and judy's relationshipuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
>>541651272NTA but her since she couldn't handle it.
>>541629706>>541629779
>>541651156>she>guy
>>541651156>including Silver in her Sonaze AUsHe has nothing to do with her world even while Amy is much more reasonable to include then him, it's an immediate cuck loving redflag.
>>541651558>>541651156Why are you pretending not to be yourself. You're obviously the loser. >Shes a loser because she didn't want to deal with my autistic ass blowing up her DMs or commenting under every one of her posts.Lmao get fucked loser stay blocked.
>>541651156That bitch blocked every person who likes Silver and says she's a silverfan while using him for cuck content, i love the double standards of Blazefags saying Silvaze is mischaracterizing Blaze while they themselves use Silver as a tool and can't take any accountability
>>541651272It's her. They advised this fellow artist(not harass) not to include silver in her thinly veiled sonaze silver cucking au, she denied such thing, but then she took the advice anyway and still blocked them
>>541651953Retard that's not medidn't fucking know she even existed let alone to comment or like anything, having such a meltdown and a drama show for something she did and cannot take any responsibility for it and keeping it under wraps is just losing every battle and trying to run away, aka, a loser.
>>541652042You're the only person who thinks that, stop trying to samefag you're bad at it.
>>541651156StfuShe draws Silver with her OC instead of pushing OOC Silver, this artist is great
>>541652259Uhh no?
>>541652249You could prove that's not you by screen calling that post I made to both posts. It should only have one (you). If you'd kindly?
>>541652302From a closer look, that art is shit wow, again with Blazefags and bots huh?
>>541652302*instead of pushing ooc Silvaze
>>541652351*Screen capping
>>541652302>instead of pushing OOC Silver>a cucked fag
>>541652439>Silvaze out of thin airYeonwu, this, again, has nothing to do with your retarded behavior what so ever.
Bought some cheap chips, and now i can't stop having explosive rock hard shits every 30 minsHow everyones Monday?
Cream the rabbit more like cream her fucking tight little slut hole the rabbit
>>541652302>draws Sonaze with silver as the cuck>ships silver with her gay faggot clown OC insteadSonaze shippers are truly one of a kind holy shit what makes them so devious??
>>541652957Men who like characters like Blaze who is a female who denies you but you take advantage of her
>>541652957I'm going to call you Silcuck because you never shut up about silver getting cucked and you being blocked (digital cucking)
Blaze can keep up with SonicIn Silvaze she has to wait for Silver
>>541653273>one guy hates cuck pornOk Yeanwu you can seek therapy for that one girl who cucked you in highschool now, seems about time
>>541653364Blaze can't keep up with anyone, she follows both of them like the leech she is
>>541652957You still on this?
>>541653463Is there any evidence that your autism rival posts on 4chan, like at all? Take your meds silcuck
>>541651508I like the blue snake
Team Eggman
>>541653595Liking cuckslop is a massive issue that only tells everyone how insecure you really are, it's not helping your case at all, go get some help this place is not for you.
Yeonwu is Krack but for Blaze
>>541653716If you are looking for a hugbox to validate your hurt feelings on being blocked, you would have better luck with discord
>>541653821In what sense
>>541653863I didn't get blocked retard, wtf are you on?
>>541653682okay
>>541653941>>541653941>>541653941
>Blazecuck still thinks it's one guy
>>541646703This makes it aeem like he can control his time travel and its a stable time loop. Stupid character.
>>541631369Newer media forgets this, but Amy's supposed to be a stunning bombshell.
>>541633580Funny, I think they retconned Lupe's Archie origin because they realized embarrassingly later on than they should have that the cartoons and games don't cleanly fit into the Archie world.Dulcy iirc was also added to SatAM season 2 with no explanation, coincidentally replacing Cluck from season 1. That was when they wanted to bring in more magical elements they had to cut from season 1 like Naugus.Oldschool SatAMfags are totally obsessed with her for some reason.
>>541628865Holy ew, what the fuck is that
>>541629973built for mobian cock
>>541628865Yeah.... I don't think I want humans in the comic anymore.
