I waited an hour for someone else to do it you get an aislop op you lazy faggots edition>Midnight Deep divehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmG98apVwKw [Embed]>Midnight Q&Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSN5HtFkvIg [Embed]>Midnight blog posts (Zones, housing, pvp, raids, dungeons, delves, transmog etc)https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-finally-releases-gamescom-midnight-blog-posts-new-systems-player-378407>Midnight featureshttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24228402>/wowg/ guilds>EU<Nerub Silkweaving Forum>>NA<GLOBOFOMO>Old >>541593106
love worlo
MIDNIGHT IS THE REBIRTH OF WOWWOW 2.0ALL THE FAGGOTS ALREADY GETTING PRE FILTEREDAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAMIDNIGHT HYPE
hello what should I consider when picking what class I'll main in lemix? I'm tired of playing clownspecs and sitting in lfgor will lemix also be a nothing really matters meme like mopmix? I haven't played that one either so idk
Orc men are so lucky
https://www.wowhead.com/news/mrgm-midnight-alpha-interview-with-ion-hazzikostas-professions-pre-patch-and-378753>There's no answer right now, but it is an issue that's being actively discussed.Delvecucks btfo
>>541655301.
>>541655380Just pick a class that can do all three roles
>>541655343Update 9: Ended with a total of 14541. A little lower than what I wanted to do this week. Well...Time to get ready for Cata TWing...Update 10: I know some of you have been wondering if I have it. Sad to tell you I still do not. While I'm not farming it as much as I use to do since I do a lot more raiding now. I normally bearly do 700~ kills an event. I've seen countless mount drops and even discovered some more bugged items that affect TW to make runs trivial. I'm honestly probably gonna quit farming this mount just because of how much time I've invested in this. While I wont fully quit farming this mount I prob will only do around 100-200 kills a week. Doing 700+ in a event takes a lot of time and that's something I don't have right now. As for kill count. Yes its gonna be unbelievable......24179......Please send help....... I haven't tried this hard for a mount since I was going for the stratholme mount back in BC soloing that place as a hunter : /Update 11: 24674 kills. Was only able to do around 500~ this event. I even had 3 friends running with me for the majority of the event and we didn't see a single one drop. I hate Cata TW week. So much time for so little kills, BC week is my fav to do. But yeah... still nothing. I'll post another update after the next TW event. Trying to do around 500-700 kills a event but it takes a lot out of me.Kinda funny I got kicked during one this event because I was pulling to fast and "noob tank", made me laugh.Update 12: 24891 kills and drum rolls please ... NO MOUNT! Funny thing is doing +/- 217 kills this event. Sadly because of the 7.2.5 stuff being released during TW didn't have much time to do the event. All 217 kills was with 4 friends and not one dropped for anyone in all the groups I was in during this event. I HATE MOP TWing. BC is next and thats my favorite week.
>>541655301she looks like me wtf
>>541655380dk dh paladin
>>541655343>>541655481Update 13: !@#$ !@#$ !@#$ !@#$ my life............... Well did the TW BT on my main and guess what a guildie not even knowing about the mount that doesn't even do TW got the mount. Yeah! No but seriously this !@#$ is getting annoying as heck. Almost everyone that I have seen get the mount has gotten it without even knowing about the mount or got it on their first attempt. Also 25k recorded kills still not mount! I hate Blizzard.Update 14: FUN DETECTED! MUST NERF! -Blizzard. They fixed the netherlight traits : / ^ ThisUpdate 15: 29k kills roflmao nothing for 3 monthsUpdate 16: 29803 kills. 1 Timereaver drop this week, Gave away 4 toys and 2 mounts from MGT. + 900~ kills this event. FUN FUN FUN I hate Blizzard.Update 17: 30000 kills. . . . . Anyone wanna jump off a cliff with me? Also why is this Wrath event so bugged?Update 18: So long story short I quit after that wrath event back in November. Sorta got really mad with the event on how it was so bugged and I hit well over 30k kills in that event. It was very depressing hitting 30k kills and don't even get me started on how buggy that wrath week was. Couldn't do some bonus bosses and some runs were just bugged and had to reque and leave instance. After I hit it I didn't do the normal amount of 700-1000+ kills. I really just got sick and done with WoW. Writing this as a March of the next year. So soonish TM I'll be back and like always I'll update after every event or every other event of TWing. Time to get back sucked into TWing . . .Last edited by Magma92 on 2018/03/15 (Patch 7.3.5)https://www.wowhead.com/item=133543/reins-of-the-infinite-timereaver#comments:id=2429496
as a blood elf i want to join alliance
>>541655610Imagine not having a mount that almost 1/3 of the player base owns
Can I still make enough gold to buy WoW tokens with just Mining and Herbalism?t. third world monkey
Is it cheating if I play this game at a higher resolution than 768p? Wouldn't want to accidentally get world first Alleria Windrunner in Midnight and have it not be valid thanks.
Here’s a high‑IQ / almost “Einsteinian” pass at how to revamp every class in World of Warcraft’s Midnight expansion (or patch) for both PvP and PvE, trying to preserve class identity, minimize overpowered homogenization, but maximize fairness, mechanical depth, and fun. I’ll lay out general principles, then suggestions per class/spec type.General Principles (The Math & Design Framework)To revamp properly, you need a solid mathematical framework:Normalized Performance MetricsFor each spec/class, track in PvE: DPS/healing/tanking in raids, Mythic+, etc. For PvP: 2v2, 3v3, Rated BGs, Solo Shuffle.Use statistical percentiles (e.g. 10th, 50th, 90th) not just averages, because skew from extremes matter.Separation of Tools vs OutputDamage output (“numbers”) should be separable from utility (CC, mobility, interrupts, heals etc.).In PvP especially, utility + timing often matter more than raw numbers.Scaling & Diminishing ReturnsTo prevent runaway “stacked power” or overdominance, implement diminishing returns for stacking similar buffs/stats, but transparent to players.Also scaling of stats with gear should have well‑defined breakpoints (e.g., crit / haste thresholds) so player decisions matter.Symmetric Trade‑OffsIf you give a spec huge burst, it should generally lose sustained damage or mobility. If high utility, somewhat lower output unless it’s a support role.Different Balancing for PvE vs PvPSome abilities that are fine in PvE become oppressive in PvP (crowd control, stuns, mobility).Consider separate tuning (cooldowns, effect duration, maybe even separate talent trees or PvP‑talents) so the class isn’t overpowered in one mode just because it’s tuned for the other.Feedback Loops & IterationCollect data rapidly after patches, especially in PvP where meta shifts fast.Make micro‑adjustments rather than sweeping changes when possible.
>There's a chance that in Midnight new players from XIV will outperform long-standing WoW players in their own game, where addons are no longer permitted, in significant ways, since they have been trained to use their eyes and situational awareness for years, whereas WoW players have used addons with sounds and warnings for over 20 years.How embarrassing would that be?
>>541655849I think it's more embarrassing to even make a post like that
>>541655798Now ask AI what class should i main
>>541655886It would be even more embarrassing to reply to it.
>>541655782make an army of alts and abuse profs and weeklies
>>541655849Why do xivtroons keep putting up the front that they don't use addons? Every single one of you faggots is loaded up on plugins with way more cheating power than wow addons ever could.
Ziv players are all cheaters too, they just pretend to be against it to feel superior.
>>541655898If Anon from 4chan is playing World of Warcraft: Midnight, and we’re factoring in that he's suffering from advanced brainrot (in the most affectionate, internet-poisoned sense)—we want a class that:Performs well in both PvE and PvP, even with a half-fried attention spanHas low barrier to entry but still high potential if played wellHas visceral dopamine hits (big crits, burst moments, zooming around, flashy effects)Is not reliant on micromanaging 30 cooldowns, mouseovers, or being a spreadsheet nerdMinimal guilt if he ragequits or tabs out to browse frog memes mid-fight Best Class for a Brainrotted Anon (PvP & PvE Ready): Retribution PaladinWhy it's Anon-proof:Huge burst with low effort: Pop wings, slap people with hammers, win trades.In PvE: Your rotation is tight but forgiving—judgment, blade, strike, hammer... repeat.In PvP: Bubble when you're dying, horse when you're getting chased, stun when you're annoyed.Dopamine: Golden wings + crit numbers make you feel like the wrath of God.Simplicity: You can half-watch YouTube and still top meters or delete someone in arena.Other 4chan Brainrot Picks: Demon Hunter (Havoc)Only two buttons matter but you feel like you're in an anime.Zoom across the screen with chaos strikes and eye beams.Always relevant in PvP due to mobility, passive healing, and meta uptime.Great in PvE, too. You just spin and win. Feral Druid (if Anon thinks he’s a “skill issue” god)Pick this if he thinks he’s smart but is actually a copium enjoyer.Meme potential: "No one plays feral = I'm unique."PvP viability: Surprisingly slippery and nasty in 1v1s / arenas.PvE: Can still pump, though you’ll need some keybinds and macro cope. Fury WarriorIf Anon just wants to charge in and hit things until something dies.Big numbers, fast pace, simple rotation.PvP: Decent damage, lots of uptime with correct talents.
>>541654840Worgs just flock to her, idk whyhttps://files.catbox.moe/w1bpm7.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/pkcxnk.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/js7gzg.png
>>541656037Modding your character to have a dick != DBM, Weak Auraslmao
male worgens hnghhh
>>541656038You sound raped.
>>541656070Alright i like it, i will try to follow your advice mr chat gpt
Big
>>541655750I guess he doesn't know the mount is free during tbc/wotlk/cata tw
>>541656089sloppa jeet trains in
>>541655301WoW is coming to mobile phones, mark my words
i wish we had dark paladins, like not morally grey paladins or dks, but just paladins abusing both light and voidjust imagine
>>541656456Doomjeets on their way to shit up the thread every time there's good news
>>541656471*phone explodes*
>>541656471Imagine if WoW misses this chance when XIV is already on mobile phones.
>>541656509Use case?
>>541656509Well we have the scarlet crusade since vanilla, the lightbound during wod and the evil arathi this expansion in priory.
>>541655301VGH....... Bvvty Bvy..... Hvme.....
>>541656117femnelf moment
12.1>Army of Light turns on us once the Void is defeated. Yrel is here. Alliance are kind of the baddies here and won't leave Silvermoon.>Lordaeron zone (Tirisfal through Scarlet Enclave)>Raid in Lordaeron against Turalyon and Lothraxion.12.2>Turalyon called the Arathi Empire to help. War starts against the Arathi.>Western Avaloren zone.>Raid against the God-Emperor of the Arathi, where we install his daughter on the throne. >She ends up becoming an Avatar of Elune, merging with her and tempering the Light so it won't attack us again.>The shit the Arathi do on our side of Azeroth pisses off the Titans.13.0>Titans invade Azeroth. They're turning people into stone. Turns out the Curse of Flesh was a lie (Earthen are Titancorrupted Dwarves).>Illidan was turned to stone and is an enslaved enemy. Sargeras is also on the side of the Titans now.>Eastern Avaloren, Ulduar, Storm Peaks, and The White Lady zones.>There's Forest Trolls on the Arathi island (having followed their enemies- the high elves and Arathi there).>Forest Troll neutral allied race.>Gunner mage spec.13.1>We need Iridikron's help against the Titans.>Harrowsdeep zone.>Raid against Illidan's forces invading Harrowsdeep.>We learn that like the Legion, and the Light, and the Jailer, the Titans were being manipulated by the Nathrezim.13.2>Nathreza zone.>Denathrius raid 2.0.>Dreadlords and the cosmic forces are all dealt with, since Blizzard wants all loose ends tied up before 14.0.
>Yrel is hereaaaaaand i stopped reading, stop being so deludu holy fuck, she is never coming back
>>541656968>he thinks there'll be a 14.0
>game is so dead that the wowpedia doesn't even update events that happened in TWW
>>541657058And you'll forget you ever said that once 12.1 happens. Convenient.
>>541655798>>541656070if chat gpt played wow he'd be a shitter that keyboard turns in the middle of massive battles and gets confused constantly.
>>541656664>>541656732Just make it vfx for retri or prot (you)'re a paladin believing the light etc then you have midlife crisis after shadowlands events and anduin questline *insert something edgy from dh quests* now you don't believe in light now and find a way to abuse both cosmic powers like these niggas from hallowfall(steal mechanic from balance druid). You can even make it the same way green fire lock quest wasNext revamp dk quest line, maybe do same for dk but with sanlaynhope you like my retarded fanfic
>>541656968Wrong. Sargeras makes a reappearance with Illidan as allies in the last titan. The bad guy is always going to be Xalatath, you can’t introduce another bad guy without Xalatath
>>541656923healers when they have to do anything
>>541657303except she is not returning, imagine being so delusional that you think they'll somehow bring yrel to MU azeroth. the bfa mag'har was a giga asspull with help from bronze dragons, AU got ................
>>541657387Dude you could have left it at the first post and I wouldn't have known you were ESL. Sometimes less is more.
>>541657368nigga all dps have to do is execute a simple rotation while 1 healer mistake bricks the key from 4 back to back sacred tolls
>>541656456
>>541656968incredible schizoslop. 10/10 no notes
>has to resort to E-E-ESL!!!pathethic
>>541657286NOW that's bad.
>>541657442I play healer and yes, playing the game and healing is fun.
>Acquiring Mythic sets also unlock the appearances of lower difficulty versions may or may not also be present in Legion Remix. Ion will have to check with the team to see how things were setup.
>>541657496>pathethicKEK
>>541657286>events that happened in TWWSuch as uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......... something to do with spiders? And Xalmommy was there too i think? I know Dalaran crashed, but that's about it.
>>541657606Dimensius came back so the foot elf could eat him
Can i have xiv story with wowo gameplay thanks
>>541656968>all doomdalits have now is creating fake shitpost leaks about how "woke" the game is to attempt to make people mad
>>541657667Oh did she? Nice. I've skipped every cinematic after BFA and haven't read a quest since Cata.
>>541656968>Blizzard just revamps the old world one chunk at a time through patches. I honestly don't even hate the idea
Chuds won.
>>541657518it WOULD be fun if i could play more than 1 dungeon every 2 hours
>cant catalyst last seasons welfare item for last seasons lfr/normal mog anymorewhen did this happen?
When did blizz add so wands show up if sheathed?
>>541658084WHITE POWER!
>>541658084HEIL HITLER
>>541658257iirc WoD
>>541658084BUILT BACK BETTER
Going to be fun watching people on here who regularly got 3k this expansion struggle to get 2k in Midnight now that they will no longer have their cheats lol
>>541658084HUMANITY FIRST!
>>541658084Chuds stay wonning bigly!
>YOU WILL NOT TIME A HIGH KEYSTONE DUNGEON AS WORST META IN SEASON 1>ITS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE
>>541658084DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH
WHAT THE NIGGER I RRESUIBBED TO WOW TODAY BUT THERES ON FUCKING REMIX
>>541658234Because in Midnight pre patch collecting a full set will give you the lower tier colours automatically.
Cell has only been out for 5 years give the dev team a break
>>541658436i will cry and whine like a total bitch on forums to make sure they include raider io in addon purge and not let something like this exist ever again, it promotes toxic exclusivity by exposing your rank to others
>>541640954>https://catbox.moe/c/84g6yhhngggit's missing the gnolls <3 and the orc set from some weeks ago~
>even the room temp IQ fanboys on wowhead are absolutely trashing the mount in the commentswhat the fuck were they thinking
>>541658607it really does but i doubt they have the balls to remove it. not unless they're desperate for new players.
>>541658485it is, because people refuse to play with you
>>541658674it's ugly lil bro
I already have every class at max level, what do I do for lemix?
>>541658607based. being a key assassin has never been harder now that everyone has 13 different snitch addons telling them everything.Sometimes a guy just needs to log on and brick some poor shitters keys. Can't a little guy just have some fun?
My fem nelf DH loves worrgs!https://files.catbox.moe/l0vpzd.png
>>541658485mathematically it's possible, socially it's impossible, why would 4 other people waste their time with you just so you can play a meme spec. if you've got a 5 man team or play for a carry it's 100% doable.
>>541658607but even the default blizzard ui includes that now?
>>541658674>inside u there are 2 wolves>one is void and hates his mom>the other is light and loves his momi can be ur angle or ur devlil
>>541658786based
>>541658674>oops i spilled some void on my phoenix oh well i'm sure that'll wash right off
Darkspear Chads won so hard it's not even funny Hide your Alliance women come Midnight
>>541658850if it does then it's time to get rid of it
https://files.catbox.moe/b9pi6b.png
>>541659041You do realize that the allied race customization we're getting is literally a recolor option for the Darkspear trolls. Like how Nelves/Belves for Dark Ranger option in SL.
>>541659041Those are not darkspear thoughbeit
>>541659090I just wish they finally added a fucking queue, maybe make it only go up to +10 or whatever, but having to queue forever because you're not vastly outgearing content you wanna do is annoying
>>541659041i'd offer them shelter in my house, but it doesn't look like we'll be allowed to have basements
What exactly are these goons doing there? 6 people sitting in one spot. Not a coincidence.
>>541659140>source: my diseased asshole
>>541659041Can't wait to play an Alliance Amani Troll PaladinLight be with you mon and vengeance for Zul'jin!
>>541659278
>>541659327grim desu
>>541659292>vengeance for Zul'jin!it would make more sense for the amani to go alliance than horde over zuljin honestly.
>>541659278>>541659327https://www.wowhead.com/news/amani-troll-appearances-in-midnight-allied-race-speculations-378683
>>541659327Heh...that's just the skin colors...the new models will be in a later alpha build haha
Is anyone else just completely unimpressed with Housing?>no basements>indoor and outdoor layouts are completely separate, treated like a portal to a different dimension when entering the house>no way to have balconies or rooftop towers you can exit the house onto because of this>just a bunch of 4x4 rooms you can randomly stack and place hundreds of doodads in>can't even choose your own location out in the world, have to use their 2 curated little housing zones that don't even have much zone diversity (no barrens biome for horde, no westfall biome for alliance)>tons of other races get left in the dust in terms of architecture probably for the next few years minimumand this apparently was being built since before Shadowlands?
HOW DO I GET GLADIATOR AND 3K I.O WITHOUT ADDONS IN MIDNIGHT???????
>>541659521Why... why do you need a basement?
I still don't know what race/class I want to play in Legion Remix bros
>>541659626dh dk or pala. elf, worgen or lightforged
>>541659626I was legit going to play an Evoker just to try them out in a meme format and they aren't allowed because NIGGZARD are Niggers
>>541659327>still no beards
>>541659438trueit would piss of a lot of the usual suspects like baal etc as well, I hope blizzard does it kek
>>541659476NIGGGER NIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGER
>>541658927https://files.catbox.moe/40q1tu.png
>>541659626I'm remaking my neutral race Horde characters on MG-WRA.
>>541659041oh they fixed their noses. nice
>>541659626Nightborne rogue
>>541659696good finally an event where we won't have to see your ugly ass model every 10 seconds, go back to crying and begging for dracthyr to be added to classic on the forums
People are speculating that one of the main reasons that Blizzard is simplifying rotations and removing addons is to put the game on consoles. How is someone supposed to heal on a PS5 controller 20 people?
>>541659327>source is some random twittard troon meme postwhy do you fags even bother shitposting? are the scant few (you)'s really that important to you?
>>541659736You're fucking retarded if you think they are going to do faction races again.
>>541658786uhm you told me she was loyal to her shota bf...
>>541659876>>541659476Cope
>>541659853I've never played one and I never will, I hate them, just figured a meme low effort game mode would be the only time I'd ever try one.
>>541659874You don't they'll cut raids down to 10 man only
>>541659892even if they were neutral it would still cause endless seethe thoughever
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/goodbye-healers/2177425no wonder the game is dying the core playerbase is so used to playing with crutches and cheats that it twisted the game into a diseased state with crippled tards relying on proverbial wheelchairs to playif they chicken out on these changes I'm going to laugh so hard, will just cement this game's death to anyone who isn't a total addict clown
>>541659874make healing spells automatically target the lowest health ally in rangemake dispels automatically target the nearest ally who needs a dispel
>>541659132>Clicked expecting DH slop>Smug lizard instead
>>541659917>she was loyal to her shota bf...Which one? She has tons nowhttps://litter.catbox.moe/4dn3io.png
>>541660006>>541660096These are some pretty major changes and I feel like they would have announced that by now if they planned on going in this direction.
>>541659874As long as blizzard marks consolekiddies with a badge of shame so i never take one into my group
>>541660158death by 1000 cuts
>>541659874people are fucking retardedthis console meme is older than most of the playerbase
Do you enjoy my 500$ (pets,mounts,transmog store)+ expanion all only at beta of Midnight anon?
back to your cuck corner of Silvermoon, hordelets
>RTB odds are looking like 50% / 40% / 9% / 1% or similar (~140 trials)
>6 hours of downtime todayThinking about a big pump sesh, and then drain before servers go back up
>>541659041
>>541660062just make healing easier.
>>541660156And you told me you'd never do cuck stuff
>>541660062whoever's idea this was.. it was a woman's. not even a tranny this time. some chick that works at blizzard said "uhh the game is too hard" then another chick was like "yahhhh this is... problematic" and then they decided to ruin the one thing that was always good about the game even during the worst patches, the actual gameplay.
>>541660547post your character
>>541660485Blizzard's entire point has been that alongside the sweeping combat addon restriction, they are making strides to make both the class design and the endgame encounters a lot easier in Midnight, but that's past over the heads of every aggrieved retard online for some reason.
>worse than wod and slimpressive
>>541660413every time they change it, it gets worse. just remove it at this point. eventually it'll be a button that just does nothing if they keep making it shittier every other patch.
>>541660128DH Slop? DH Sloppa!!https://files.catbox.moe/fc8kig.png
>>541660648dragonflight was a unique time.
>>541660631>the game is hard because here at blizzard, we know you have addons so we won’t make the fights doable without em ;)>we had to get rid of the addons, our balance team was having a hard time balancing the content because you guys chug ave addons :(Anyone believing this shit is tarded. Blizzard isn’t balancing anything with addons in mind and they never have
>>541660683That's a lie, the current retail version is way better than the original but this change is weird because people thought it was going to work like empowered dragthyr spells but yeah it should be removed.
>>541660631The way AI slops wet shiny skin will always be based. It's a fetish that not enough real artists cater to
>>541660627not doxxing my character but he looks like this. and he despises women.
>>541660516
Guys wtf, I thought FF14 was the transgirl game??
>>541660547Its going to make the game harder for your average normalfag though, they're now going to be expected to actually watch cast bars and call things out manually
>>541660831i seriously doubt that you play the game
>>541660547might be the first positive change a woman has made in the world of warcraft.
does one button rotation work for tanking and healing? or is it deepeesissy only?
>>541660835post her bf watching her with a worgen...
>>541660786What is blizzard obsessed with giving rogue random modifiers and coin flip mechanics? How is a gambling class a rogue fantasy? When did this happen?
>>541660969>When did this happen?Legion.
>don't log onto a character for a month>GEAR UPDATE GEAR UPDATE LET US FUCK UP YOUR BAGS AND UI PLEASEGenuinely wish there was a [Don't ask me again] tickbox
i don't even have addons beyond elvui, cc numbers and battle text for damage/heal numbersand i fucking hate using WA shits wack
>>541660890>>541660897>>541660909honestly i half read his post and thought it was the bluepost about making the game more approachable, not about addons. i don't care about addons
>>541658084>scarlet crusade are crazy and think everyone is undead!Don't care, let me join them. We must purge the unclean from Azeroth.
>>541661026>i don't even have addons beyond elvui,that's like 50 addons in one.
Rank wowg sloppers
>>541661051why you posting some dead whore that serves bolvar? :^)
>>541661051i love sally
>>541660690dragonflight had Alexstrasza body which made 90% of players buy the game
>>541660223people are fucking retardedthis housing meme is older than most of the playerbase
>>541661047The problem with addons is blizzard think if they make the game more approachable addon users would get bored and give them feedback about it being too easy while non addon users get btfo.
>>541661149>deadwe got a multiverse to solve that problem
>>541661171false equivalencegg ez kid
>>541661168True
>>541661154
>>541661242wife
damn
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/item=254862/runeblade-of-the-maldraxxus-paragonthe legion tw is bussin
>>541661334god they're so fucking ugly
>>541661285why does she look so tired?
what are the 21st birthday mounts?
>>541661373>Maldraxxus>legion Timewalking>introduced in patch 12.0.0I think the bot is broken you guys.
>>541661373looks cool, how do i get it wowhead employee?
>>541661447wow players keep sneaking in to sniff her belongings.
Will Jaina play a role in Midnight?
>>541660831we must be better men, hordelets...
>>541661574I think the SHADOWLANDS cosmetics might be related to the SHADOWLANDS timewalking we are getting next patch.
midnight looks like it's going to be the new classic+
>>541658084this will never ever be available in retail
Cool
>>541661334Straight outta toilet.
>>541661825>filtered by tbc dungeons
>>541656968Only thing I want from this is revamped Lordaeron
Auntie Jaina is exclusively built for being soft-plapped in the prone bone position by Anduin.
>>541661825You stood in the fire
>>541662049And it's supposed to hit for 200 million at level 20?
>>541661825>Blazebased Fyrakk dabbing on shitters in TBC dungeons
>>541661640Oh she's gonna destroy them alright, destroy their cocks with her throat
Sally
is dead xd
Now that the dust has settled, what are we thinking about Midnight?Good? Bad? Mid? My thoughts on the Haranir changed a bit and I have more positive thoughts on them now than during the reveal, but the confirm that they still use male nelf combat animations is a huge L on Blizzard's part, so hoping they change that.Housing is pretty gay all things considered, but otherwise the expansion should be solid and probably better than TWW because of no addon bloat and simplified class design. So many pointless CDs got removed and the talent trees are starting to make sense so I'm liking that.
>>541660683Imagine if there was a rogue buff that increases with potency over time before peaking and resetting. Maybe you could align this buff with killing spree and do huge burst AOE/ST...
YO I RESUBED TODAY WHERE IS REMIX?>
Do those sloppers really need to add 50lbs of chubbines on those pretty girls?
>>541662376doa
>>541662376with all the changes to classes, dumbing them down immensely, this will be worse than shadowlands, mark my words.
>>541662424Its americans so they have to make everything fat and repugnant
>>541659041good
>>541662475they are attempting to attract new players, they can't coast off the same mazed enthusiasts for another 20 years.the game as it is right now is too intimidating for the average player, hell even the changes they are advocating for are still too intimidating for normalfags.
>>541661983wrongby me_____
>>541662424It's what I like.
I have shit to do this month and i do horde quests in bfa instead
>>541662376it's gonna be good. i'll enjoy it
>>541662885Yes. They need to go even on simplification because the complexity isn't what's creating the skill. The game needs way more updates to it and this frankly isn't enough for them to garner new swathes of players.Should have never done a retarded Worldsoul Trilogy and took their time in making a soft-WoW 2.0 launch to actually attract peopleWhoever decided on the trilogy thing has done more damage to WoW than it would have incurred with regular expansions lol
>>541660940Sorry bro, been trying. Doesn't work
>>541663153POV: A human male entering Silvermoon in Midnight
>>541659626Eredar (Draenei) Survivalist Hunter. I wanna have a boy ready for dat shotgun when MIDnight drops
>>541663227survival hunters are back to using guns now instead of retarded reddit spears?
>>541663321no they are still melee but you can dual wield
>>541662424People have their tastes anon.I agree with you I don't like fatties.Virtually everything I slop ranged from petite to svelte to musclergirl
>>541663321They can dual wield 1h now and for some reason they gave them some shotgun talent
>>541663321>we want survival to be the rexxar spec>...but here's a giant shotgun you now use lol>we want survival to be about surviving>...but here's yet another volatile bomb you throw at people even while in melee rangeschizophrenic spec identity
>>541662424What the fuck are you talking about?! We have like 3 aifags here and one of them is a fucking normalfag and the other 2 are faggot furfags
>>541662376how the fuck would anyone know? its not out yet.
Furious pistoning action.
>>541663196>human males entering the capital city of female blood elvesthose boys will be devoured before the day is over..
>>541663650I wonder what it feels like to have the mana sucked out of your cock
just tried both tanking and healing a +5 without addons and didn't make the timer on eithermidnight is gonna suck
>>541663632How do I get hips like this?
>>541663764omg playabable high elvels scofirmer!!!!!!!
>>541663858you're going to have 3 buttons in midnight if you cant time a +30 in midnight its a (You) problem
>>541663858I've healed 12's without add-ons as a non meta healer and it was fineMouseover is all we need
>>541663764... But /v/ and reddit told me high elves and blood elves are exactly the same...!!!
>>541664024they are exactly the same
>>541664024that's because the people posting that look like this guy
>>541662376Mid.
>>541663862play as a female only character through all Midnight expansionYour hips will grow as you see, they grow faster if you play as female healer
>>541664024>people always forget about the void elves...
>>541664126where did you find this pic of me
>>541663764h-hot
>>541662475The pruning isn't necessarily the worst thing but it feels like they are too overambitious and it's going to end up being either like shadowlands or wod where both suffered a staggering loss of players due to under delivering and making the game boring/unfun and lacking. They are simultaneously reworking/pruning 39 specs, adding a 40th spec, making hero+ talents, scorched earth nuking addons while trying to supplement with their own in-house addons and UI overhaul, reworking healing for the 3rd or 4th time (mind you every time they've done this they fucked up to the point where many healers quit until things got rolled back in a future patch), reworking tanking again, changing pve encounter philosophy and also doing the housing thing. And this shit launches in 4 months. I guarantee they've spread themselves too thin with these projects and everything will be kinda shitty and half-assed and probably take until the last titan to smoothen out and polish and it's going to be a shit show.
>>541663153Doing it this way allows them to charge users for 3 expansions that could easily have been one, MAYBE two at most. Makes the shareholders happy
>>541664161Whoa. Thanks doctor.
>>541664126that's a cool apron. I wish I could find one for barbecues like that.
I can't wait to have snacks and naps with nostwin bros
I've tanked/healed and dps 15+ keys in Legion with 0 addons and weakaurasIdk how retarded people are nowadays
>>541655301it would be so easy to pick literally any wow-related picture instead of AI slop fuck you
>>541664263bro trust the vision it's week 1 of alpha
>>541664313I'm not sure it's even an apron, it almost looks like a fucking dress kek
>>541664314You are a fucking transvestite.
>>541663858I assume this is bait because no role needs to sweat hard to time a +5But I also really don't get what addons going missing people are freaking out about, making more intuitive rotations and boss fights but removing addons sounds like a net positive to me
>>541664436wtf you're right
>>541664331Google images suck now. I don't know why, I don't know when but i wouldn't be caught dead using that slop so you get this slop.
>>541664314we need nesingwary to clear out these dragon buggers, they are an infestation at this point.
>>541660229Holy ESL
>>541664314fleshlight
>>541664331>doesn't do it himself>complains about how someone else did it.Brown.
>>541664450
>mom threw away all my piss jugsrude
>>541663956I don't even know what mouseover is and I heal better than most people I come across
>>541664314>I want to talk about something elseI've got a snack for this creature.
>>541664314I didn't really like the overly cutesy dumb dragon stuff I saw but I do really miss doing my whelp dailies...
>>541662376Liking the pruning, loving the total addon death, interested to see a return to a classic location with Eversong, but I'm very concerned housing will be expected to carry most of the content of this expansion and that it's using up too much of the resources for what it will actually deliver. They've gotta do something about the story too, it's total caca.
>>541664647>tfw she always only cleans the room when she sends me to store to buy something
>>541664407I forgot the 'it's just alpha' > 'it's just beta' > 'it's just the first patch' > etc. copium pipeline. Wonder how things will look like by the time paid beta rolls around.
>>541664126this is an alliance false flag operation to make it look like horde is trannies, when in fact it's alliance that are the trannies.
>>541662376It's good to see Quel'thalas updated.The addon purge is good.Everything else is just post-Legion typical slop. Fun for a month or two every few months.
>chuds still want to join the scarlet crusadeseems like you guys forgot who owns the dev team.
>>541664436>>541664490>>541664613https://www.reddit.com/r/BusinessFashion/comments/lguykb/i_feel_like_this_would_work_for_business_casual/https://www.reddit.com/r/NonBinary/comments/hs9q18/not_the_most_flattering_style_dress_but_insanely/https://www.reddit.com/r/NonBinary/comments/irhclb/for_the_alliance/
>>541664931i hate you
>>541664831get triggered silly niggerbetter go find a campfire and do some niggly wiggly "dancing" so you feel better
>>541662376housing is cool, addon purge cool, zones cool but i don't think it adds enough to the game to keep me subbed past 2 months per patch maybe 1 per patch
how do i join paladin club
>>541664931Alliance players explain yourselves.
>>541664931king, based detective
>>541664742same at least we got them as a pet to take with us which is cool
>>541665094goddamn it Mud Mud, lay off the rice buns before you explode
>>541665094My man's got that hourglass physique but in the wrong direction
>>541665070huh, preach lost some weight? good on him
>>541662376I don’t get why they don’t just simplify the core rotation and keep all the utility spells in the game..?
>>541665290Please be a gold dye...
>>541659626If you want to be invited to raid groups:•Prot War•Fury War•Holy Priest•Resto Druid•Mage•Destro LockEverything else is dogshit.
*shares a controversial opinion about the game that is slightly uncorrect*
Choose your fighter.
>>541665246simplifying a core rotation too much makes it braindead - see FDKwhat they did was remove CD and talent bloat, both offensive and defense (cc removed as well for some classes)pvp was getting beyond retarded as well, Rets are basically Gods right now and can do it all
>>541664331It's on topic slop you dumb gay whiny shitbird
>>541665476*makes joke at your expense without talking about your point*
>>541665476shut the fuck up you dumb nigger and post genslop
>>541665545this needs to be the next OP image fucking kek
>>541665628>so can I really say he's doing anything wrong?is this not obvious?
>>541664331I'm going on the cord: non-WoW related AI slop is still better than on-topic WoW furry pictures.Fuck you lol.
>>541665628What are the chances his """wife""" is a fat ugly tranny like him?
>>541665545stuff like this nearly breaks the maze haze.
>>541665545Incredible
god i wish i were my vulpera
>>541665750>pogstraszaheh
I hate that I used to make fun of wowrefugees in xiv to only end up a refugee myself. It's pretty shit when your game isn't doing too hot ngl
so when is lemix dropping? after weekly reset?
>>541665628Married men are often times the worst role models. If you think about, all the greatest men were unmarried until they finished all their bad ass and important work. Getting married is retiring from life, period, any old man will tell you “don’t get married anon teehee” but he’s fucking serious
>>541665549ahemdorito thinks you're a retardsp is the god specnow fuck off with this ret op propaganda https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/sp-won-awc/2178598/45
I RESUBBED TODAY AND REMIX ISNT ACTIVE WHAT THE FUCK
>>541665930>1 bad expansion chased you herepathetic, we eat bad expansions for breakfast here.
>>541665958but how will i split the rent
>>541665958>all the greatest men were unmarried until they finished all their bad ass and important work.huh, never thought about that before, interesting
His main?
>>541665352>dye only usable once>if you fuck up and use it on accident you have to craft the dye againlol
>>541666006we got another one boys
>>541666098gay aids retard class?yep its warrior
>>541665545The drums of war thunder once again....
>>541665446Are healers required in legion remix?I remember in mop remix they were not needed since everyone had 50% leech or whatever
No negativity in the dojo
>>541666253https://youtu.be/rhmwT6m2dBs?si=SxMrQBJhGQnhv_3z
>>541665758Wife is either one foot out the door seeing another dude or is another nonbinary tranny
>>541666635I never understood why the shitposters hyperfixated so hard on this meme. Hell /v/ even use it for all kind of games.
is 50% of paladin gameplay sitting in divine shield?
>>541666635No Dojo in the negativity, ever think about that?
why paladins get all the bitches SAAAR
>>541665559for me it's assumi, but yours is close
>>541663632I need to thruuuuuust I NEED TO THRUUUUUUUUSTMY HIPS ARE BUCKING ON THEIR OWN OH GOD
>>541666457Sylvanas>called a bitch by garrosh>killed by arthas and turned into an ugly ghost whore>cucked by anduin for a black paladin niggressHow much worse can she get in Midnight?
>>541666253the one on the right turns into a fat ion lol
>>541666768its an 8 second buffdid you get dommed by a ret in bubble and so now you're taking to your favorite internet rag to complain?is that it?
>>541666863I know the idea (even if its factually wrong because of bunch of devs loved ff) but still doesn't really explain why people here are so obsessed with it, is not even funny.
>>541665628>but he's married so can I really say he's doing anything wrong?if she's even 1% like him then yes, he did it wrong. if she's nothing like him at all then he's winning.
>>541665290Oh man, should I be farming old reagents or will it all be saturated by launch anyway?
>>541666968she will come back and marry anduin in midnight don't worryevery windrunner whore needs a human
>>541666941DAMN
a +15 legion is not even a +2 in tww too be honest
>>541667124Because Legion was dogshit and had dogshit dungeons
>>541667062>Oh man, should I be farming old reagents or will it all be saturated by launch anyway?this could be a good money making opportunity boys. pay for your accounts by buying old mats and selling them to the unwashed masses.
>>541667124becasue legion was shit
why do we ***need*** 8 hours of maint for fucking lemixwho caresjust another tuesday for gameplay chads
>>541666128crafterchads stay winning. it's the same with furniture. if you want to place 4 chairs, you have to buy/craft/have 4 chairs in your inventory. it's healthy this way, there can be an entire economy around housing. supply and demand and all that
>>541667259the last time they announced a 8 hour maintenance it only lasted like 2 or 3 hours
>>541666985You're just a gross person that you want to see shit like this.Either fix yourself or end yourself.
>>541666747I know it's saying "Shitheads on the internet don't matter", but some interpreted it as our story is 100% perfect and even thinking otherwise disrupts the feng shui.
>>541666003I don't know who any of these people are nor do I care
Orc chuds gonna eat good once we get more orc content
>>541667376heres to hopingit better not be one of those situtations where they have to give out sub time for fucking up so badim pretty fucking sure that was the 10.2.7 patch thooh nvm it was the tww prepatch
i resubbed today for legion remix where is it? why is blizzrd stealing 24 hours of my sub time to turn on a separate server?
https://youtu.be/uDMI4Ih9SFUshadow priest bros, we're back (maybe)
>>541667585blizz cancelled itsorry anon
>>541667632its over
>>541667604>insanity still a thingShadow priest remains dead
>>541667604sneed priest will never comeback until they remove mind link
>>541667479thats ok lil gupthe professional worlo arena player says you're wrongnow fuck off
>>541667604When was it first added? I can't remember. How many times it has been redesigned of fixed?
>>541667570theres at least 4 more elf expansions before they even think about the orcs
DAMN
>>541667632how did they assume visage forms of races that didn't even exist when that scene took place>hurr durr time travel lolok so why didnt they either use forms from alternate future timelines and why didnt they take action if they knew neltharion was going to get turned into dragon hitler and rape the planet
just tried doing a +3 on Midnight Alpha and couldn't do it without weakauras and DBMthis is fucking disgusting actuallythis expansion is going to be insanely shit if they don't revert these changes, like 70% of the playerbase will quit and that's lowballing it lol
>>541667570this you?https://youtu.be/UwybMb7VXAI?si=58_DFbevb_Dw4SZi
>>541667632They had his humanoid form and used it for one gag quest.
any change that hurts maze rats is a good change
>>541655301is that... a human female?
>>541667791
they should update the darkmoon faire to make it better than the ff14 casino. we have the technology.
>>541667825Only Nozdormu would have known, being the Aspect of Time, but it still begs the question why he didn't bother mentioning to everyone what was going to happen to Neltharion and try to fucking stop it.
>>541667983it doesnt actually, keys are going to be easier nowyou lost tranny
>>541667880>people complain that the Lich King showed up too much in Wrath>blizzard "corrects" this by having Deathwing barely show up at all in CataSad.
>>541667731that same forum of "professional arena players" whines about Rets more than anything else stop replying, retard
>>541668057Seems kinda wasteful.
>>541668107its actually the trannys that like maze, newfag
>>541667798KINO
>>541668050I look like this in real life
>>541668102>Only Nozdormu would have knownthen we circle back to my first question, which is how they got visage forms of races that didn't even exist at that point of time
>>541668158isle of queldanas seems connected now via that bridge
i can't find wowo mods on arctium discord
>>541667835looks like blizz will actually have to design classes and encounters fairly and achievably instead of leaning on automated addons to track your class features and encounter mechanics for youthere will be growing pains but this is the chemo needed to treat the cancer that grew from addons over 20 years
>>541667798
>>541668082its already better because you don't have to play FFXIV to do darkmoon faire stuff
>>541668057>make your island fortress less defensible by wasting resource on a kilometer long bridge when you can just easily port over forces by boats literal retard-tier design lol100% designed by women
>>541668151He also showed up in the MoP legendary cape quest if you did it as a tank.
>>541668201no, you're the tranny erping seething at gameplayfags
>>541668153the op doesnt wine about rets nor do any of the actual 3s r1 players on there replied, whatchu gon' do about it fagboy?
>>541668151Ah well.
>Decide to do a cheeky 10 because surprise day off>Hunter decides to just max range at the last HoA boss and almost wipes us, did the same for gargoyle boss when he had the shatterI hate hunters!!!
Pruning is good actually because I'm tired of having 3 actions bars at the bottom of my screen
>>541668363>iqd>fortressunc, old queldanas had like 3 huts
>>541668216I don't think Blizzard ever explained it, or even tried to desu
LEGION REMIX IS SO CLOSEI CAN ALMOST TASTE IT
Uhh... Melvinbros? Our response?AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>541662376It will be great.
>>541668663>join arator for a new journey in midnightIs Arator the main character of Midnight?
>>541668548the sunwell plateau raid itself was the fortress (now controlled by the good guys) you giga retard and you can make a beachhead to fuck over oncoming invadersconnecting the city to the sunwell and making it more vulnerable is idiotic no matter how you spin it, lil bro
>>541668050sexo extremo
>>541668661>have to constantly join and leave the torghast run to get a good starting anima power>get good anima power but only dogshit after>torghast run takes just as long as a t11 delveKeep them as they are right now or give them levels above 11 for more/better loot and crests
>>541668791a landbridge doesnt make anything more vulnerable. it speeds up the transfer of resources and soldiers. you're not susceptible to surprise attacks or weather either. retard
>>541662376It will be DoA for gamers if they don't bring back hekili. Otherwise it will just be some virtual collection game for boomers.
>>541668785>Using crypt lord's impale on sorceress.Those are going up your skirt like in an ultraviolet Japanese cartoon.
>>541668893>gamers>using hekilipick one (1)
>>541668661i like the torghast idea but make it like for a couple of delves not all of them. like a couple of meme delves that are just insane, but most of them just being your regular character because sometimes its fun to just play your character. or like how they have the delves that light up on the map that give you extra loot, make it a rotating torghast like "these 3 delves are empowered today" that you opt into with a key but since you get crazy ass abilities the mobs inside are much stronger and there's giant waves of crazy shit and mini bosses to kill because they're empowered. -t. 300 iq game designer
Every expansion should have a wave based dungeon like Black Morass/Violet Hold
>>541669048those are the worst kind of dungeons
>>541669048So you can afk mid dungeon?
>>541669048Violet Hold was ass. Those dungeons are terrible.
>>541662376I can't wait to see all the seething when combat addons are banned.
>>541668890>it speeds up the transfer of resources and soldiersthey have literal magic teleportation for that, you have no excuse in a fantasy setting lmaoyou are so dumb it hurts>you're not susceptible to surprise attacks or weather either. retarddo you know why people build moats around castles? because water works in repelling ground forcesif you can make a beachhead you force them to use naval resources to assault you that's why the germans chose the beaches of normandy to repel the allied invasionyou are a knuckle-dragging gorilla retard ape lmao
>>541668985>going crypt lord >everyou'll be dead by my swarm of manlet rifleman before you ever touch my sorceress waifu
>>541669104>>541669115>>541669131They just need to be faster paced
>>541669172you are a gigaretard, there's literally naga all over the coasts and presumably underwater too. ships are not safe in that kind of environmentSHITBAG. this is about connecting 2 zones under blood elf control via a landbridge, not defense/ofense
>>541669227>They just need to be faster pacedfor me its gauntlets. simple as
>>541669227they need to make mob health a bit less spongy
>>541669443cant wait until you 41%
>>541669385>y-yeah but they have naga so obviously building a km-long bridge will somehow helpliterally less intelligence than an ogre >SHITBAG. this is about connecting 2 zones under blood elf control via a landbridge, not defense/ofensenot remotely an argument considering flying is so easy now lol
>>541669567>just transport the giant ballistas with dragonhawks, CHUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!retard
>shadow priest can activate almost 3 idols of OLD GODS in Midnight>still declined from M+HAVING 2+ OLD GOD POWERS 24/7 AND STILL DECLINED IS ACCEPTABLE??????
>>541669626jaina can teleport entire armies at oncesurely belfs can find somebody capable of teleporting a ballista or two?
>8 hour maint tomorrow to flip some switchesi guess since i dont work in game dev i cant truly understand the reason but the maintenance times for WoW seems a bit ridiculous yes?
I need help finding better boots or perhaps leggings (Gold)
>>541668663>there will be quests >there will be more quests>there will be a daily quest hub >there will be another tab in the quest tracker >there will also be some new talents >and can buy stuff for your house at a vendor This expansion is going to be dead as fuck after a month or two
>>541669723we're getting into the territory of 'magic can do everything, so just use magic lmao' which means that nothing has a purpose because magic exists
https://www.wowhead.com/item=248761/brewfest-barrel-bomberTHERE IT IS DOOD
>>541669829something something spaghetti code from the 90's
>>541667632he fucks all 4 of them btw. in a single session.
>>541668661Delves are only damage sponges if youre trying to do high tiers with bad gearI play fucking assassin and breeze through tier 11s and have done the whole expac
The more i play dh the more i like it
>>541669834bare feet
LET'S FUCKING GO
>>541669829Someone will still figure out how to get a 1000ilvl arcanocrystal and port their character out of remix to go one shot the current raid anyway
>>541669846and they will all grant various badly designed cosmeticsANOTHER tabard and shoulder set? WOOOAAAAHHHHHHHHH
>>541667798and then they fucked
>>541669887>>541670073THERE IT IS DOOD
I want sylvanas, jaina, tyrande, alexstrasza to live with me in my room in real lifehow do I do this?
>>541667632>ENTER
We need WoW 2.
>>541670151tuplas >>>/x/
>>541670151when you work it out, let me know
>>541668057>>541668363It hurts defenses, but it also bifurcates your port with a giant impassable bridge making docking a much more tedious task.
>>541670134Oh yeah the shoulder+belt+tabard "ensembles" have been so bad. I suppose they'll toss some more 100pc transmog bundles in the cash shop themed after the trolls, haranir, elves and so on
>https://www.wowhead.com/news/take-a-sneak-peek-at-what-might-be-midnights-first-mythic-mount-378763?page=2#commentsOH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
so what barrowed powers are we getting in midnight this time? is it a chastity cage??
>Silverglade Refuge, a High Elven settlement on the border of Quel'Thalas (interestingly located where the "Quel'Thalas" subzone with its elven tower once was before TBC), is apparently a new home for the Silver Covenant forces, once located in Dalaran. Vereesa Windrunner, Captain Elleane Wavecrest, Scout Captain Daelin, and various Silver Convenant-tagged NPCs can be found in the area.
>>541669984yeah idk what this guy is on about, brann does what he's supposed to do in combat, as a healer he basically makes me immortal unless I stand in telegraphed aoesIt can be annoying when he pulls shit, but that's partially on me wanting to skip packs and not being careful enough
>>541670043I don't know, it all seems a little much
>>541668661Id make it more of a roguelike, and instead of +1-11 I would have infinite scaling (or close to it) with increasing rewards per floor. After certain floors you could get checkpoints that let you start there next time. I'd also like to see the warband characters actually used as companions. It would be cool to make your own party using your characters. Basically it needs a lot more variation than what it has currently.
>>541670716source?
>>541670689the game still relies on a seasonal model so every piece of gear you pick up is borrowed power.Though I expect in the last patch of Midnight we'll get some sort of cloak or bracers to upgrade. As usual.
>>541670689>barrowed
>4 dps are meta>BM is utterly brainless>FDK is fairly brainless>Arcane is kind of brainless>havoc is mid-difficulty I suppose>both pwarr and rsham are also pretty easythe easier the spec the better it performs? wtf lol
>>541670862Must breed
>>541670773The only issue I have is going through as a healer (disc) takes forever even with max Brann because his damage is pretty shit.
>>541671025>wtf lolseems pretty obviousit's not as complicated allowing better performance and ease of use.
>>541671146switch to shadman priest
>>541671025maybe I'm retarded but I find Havoc much easier than ArcaneMight also be because I'm not playing with a ton of addons and I think the default UI for arcane is dogshit and functional for Havoc
>brannyou bug the fuck out of him on rogue
>Muh streamline! Gotta streamline. Streamline the streamline!
>>541671192I have a BM hunter and ret paladin I can crush delves with if I want to dps. When I play priest, I want to heal.
>>541671330only if you vanish mid rotation which you shouldn't really be doing on trash packs anyway
>>541669851nigger they have brooms magically cleaning shit for them so yeah the blood elves really are the "magic do everything" race it's lore-friendly the entire reason for the existence of the blood elves is because they left kalimdor due to seething about restrictions on the use of magic, lorelet
>>541671427i still press vanish on reflex sometimes..
>>541660229Yeah I get it for free thanks to wow tokens. ESL doomsissy.
Why are they completely ruining the aesthetics of the Eastern Kingdoms??? Why couldn't the revamped places just be its own instance/'continent'?
>>541671350
>>541671606we had the shitty post cata azeroth for longer than classic, might as well give it a new paintjob again
>no more metro m+ streamssad....
>>541670151get really into creating high quality cosplay costumes and then pay prostitutes to larp around with youpeople really underutilize prosties these days, and mot just see them as icky or use them to get "practice" with normal girls, meanwhile if you're creative you can literally use them in any way you wantI once paid a prostie to just stand in the corner of my room, masturbate while I played WoW and she sang Sylvanas' song the entire hour
>>541671025>DK, Hunter, Warrior > everything else>3 simplest (in a good way - straightforward and intuitive) and most-enjoyable classes to play since ever>all 3 are historically 3-4 button classes performing either on solid mid of the pack or very good level>UH OH HUH WHY IS BLIZZARD MAKING ALL CLASSES BE 4-BUTTON IN MIDNIGHT????? W-H-O PLAYS THAT?????this fucking community
>start playing rogue to kill time while waiting for legion remix>use hekili as training wheels>they announce the addon purge>switch to blizzard's official toolholy fuck it's bad According to blizzard the damage rotation for sin rogue is just garrote and spamming mutilate. what a terrible tool
>>541668245same please help
>>541671887>>541671350my favorite Ion images, god bless that man.
>>541671930i found it you need to press on 18+ discord link on arctium site
>>541671919Consider the followingStop being an absolute nigger and just play the game.
>>541671606just like metzen intended EK restored.
>>541672067what do you think im doing retard? I'm playing the game and trying to learn a new class without looking up guides, as blizzard intends. waste of breath.
>>541671919>use hekili as training wheelshave you considered just using your brain instead?
>>541670862built for being dragonmaw'd
>>5416716061/10 bait
What kind of lady can blood elf DH impress
>>541670916Alpha
>>541672165>switch to blizzard official toolstill training wheels shitter mode you absolute mongoloidPut your buttons on your bar, press them individually.Read and observe how they interact with each other.Jesus fucking christ you "people" are not human.
>>541672310rich and getting into her 60s
>>541672231the people who shit on hekili im convinced have never actually used it. it's extremely helpful when trying to learn a new spec.but youre right i should have wowhead.comTM open on my second monitor at all times.
>>541671919The fact that hekili teaches you more about your class than blizzard could is sad. Honestly blizzard needs to introduce a full tutorial for each class and spec but they literally can’t cause they don’t want to tune it over and over every time they prune or purge their classes, and you can not take the talents they wanna train you on.Realistically blizzard is just extremely lazy and they want people to just know how to play a class right off the bat without giving them any possible way to learn it. Character boosts for example have damaged all the players skill levels. Yo don’t spend any time learning the class as you get abilities added to your spell book, it’s all there and your just expected to “have fun” lmao. The fact you don’t get to train or figure out your shit has ruined most player experiences and this is why addons and YouTube has become the only way to learn how to play. Absolutely atrocious If they want to draw more players they need to invest money into onboarding them otherwise nothing will ever change and blizzard will constantly chase this sweet spot they think exists (it doesn’t)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXKMHMQNo8IRemember when the game's story was ruled by "rule of cool"?
>she doesn't have garona as a legendary follower
>>541672417I don't use anything, just reading the abilities and talents and thinking about the obvious interactions should net you a rough idea of what the rotation iswhy is the average wow player so braindead kek?
>>541671865in keys above 13 the "likes to play" is almost a non-factor though, people play what's good whether it's a 3 button spec or a 30 button spec
https://www.wowhead.com/item=247721/the-headless-horsemans-ghoulish-charger>have to grind this shit on October 18 - Nov 1 during Legion Remix
>>541672403Back to sucking fel energy
>>541672389Try that with enh or arcane without looking at a guidethen go try to parse with itYOU people don't even play the fucking game you get so mad at. i guarantee you aren't white.
>don't know what hekili is>won't have to worry about it nowfeels good.
>>541672529Your lying man, you watched YouTube videos and if you tell me you didn’t you can just dilate
>>541668050worgen chewtoy
>>541672434hekili is based on a fuckton of simulation autism which blizzard flatly does not dothey couldn't do hekili's equivalent even if they wanted to
>>541672529people raised on smart phonestoo stupid to read more than a tweet at any given time
>>541672389>t. denied from keys, bottom of the damage meter, doesn't understand why
>>541672539>Remix this week>Comp Stomp and timewalking next week>10 weeks of timewalking starting with December 2nd
>>541672716>>541672434I don't get it though blizzard make the class, how is it they don't know to play the class optimally or refuse to run their owns sims and then just give the rotation helper than string?
>>541672417nta, you should not have either. a good class design and a good game design is when you intuitively understand how to play. the designed gameplay (made by class designed) should be also spoonfed to you in-game via interactive tutorial.they need not ability and addon purging - they need to do QA and user acceptance tests of their shit design. only then it would actually have a bare minimal chance to attract those "new players".
>>541655301love wowg anons so much!!!
>>541672539>have toanon i have some news for you
Addonfags seething this morning I see.
>>541672836It’s compartmentalized too much. The people balancing classes and combat don’t even know what the dungeons and raids look like
>>541672836do you have the slightest idea how many permutations exist when you have 25 different talents you might or might not take, and when skills give you short term buffs and status effects and you have procs and ...it's not impossible to do it but why would blizz do it? they don't care about muh optimal play, they just balance so that retards can get 3k / late season CE and that's it
>>541672529This is the best way to play but it takes time and critical thinking, which most players don't have these days. I never used Hekili but I did use Icy Veins and others, and I'll give you an example of how wrong they can be. This was years ago, but they were recommending feral take one talent over a talent that let ferocious bite refresh rip. It didn't sit right with me and it turned out to be like a 20% loss in dps to take their advice. If you always follow a guide or one of these addons that plays the game for you, you are actually handicapping yourself and will never understand your class.
>dude just read the tooltips and figure it out you don't need guides WoW doesn't even explain enchanting gear or what flasks are they just expect you to know. The in-game tools are NOT enough to perform well.
>>541672669jfc you zoomers are fucking hopeless.non of that shit existed when we learned to play the game.We played and learned as we went via trial an error, cus thats a how humans learn shit.This fucking brainrot where you little nigger buy boosts for level then buy boosts for gear then buy boosts for cheevs then install tools so you can pretend you know how to playLike fucks sake why are you even here you absolute trash.you are literally not even a gamer you area gaming culture consumer.LEARNING TO PLAY THE GAME WELL is like EIGHTY PERCENT of why you play games.Doing it all yourself, is the payoff is the satisfaction is the victory.You literally have not at any point done anything for yourself, you have paid to have progress credited to you by other people.Progress you are ENTIRELY incapable of yourself and entirely illegitimately claiming.You are literally a retarded inhuman drone.
Why do mfers not use the ready lever in arenas
>frost mage looks interesting>warlock on some specs looks good>demon hunter is giga fun>paladin changes are good>fdk changes are good>might check warrior >rogue looks like i'm not sureI can manage maybe two classes at best and it's really hurts when you can't choose once again
>>541673009that's probably it.>>541673062but some random addon dev could do it in hekili?
>>541673132hey boomer this isn't classic anymore where you rotation was just spamming frostbolt. Now you have to memorize a 30 step if/then tree and keep track of a million cooldowns and buffs.Old man yelling at a cloud. Post your parses grandpa.
>>541670257BLIZARD HIRE THIS MAN
>>541673197Need to talk to my stream chat
>>541665545Why do WoW players like to wear dresses?
>>541673197most of arena cucks have anxiety and lots of estrogen
>>541673079just fucking read mannot my fault the public school system didnt teach you to recognize patterns and kicked you out with a third grade reading level
>>541673197cus Ive gotta reapply both my weapons imbues and my earth shield and my lightning shield and my earth shield on the other guy and my skyfury EVERY GODDAMNED ROUND REEEEEEEEE
>>541673132i can smell you from here, bitchtits. Nigga hopped on ventrillo to leech a rag kill 20 years ago and thinks he can mythic raid with no outside tools LOL
>>541672484>panda>cool
creating a Haranir and spamming this /dance in Alliance neighborhoods to reduce property value
>>541673075>uhmmm ahkshually my homebrew build let me easily outperform the unthinking masses by 20%>this is why it takes me 6 weeks to get ksm and aotcretarded post made by know-nothing shitterin reality you just look up one of those statistics websites to see what the top 100 io players of your spec are using and copy it 1:1 because not only have they spent way more time autistically crunching numbers but also it's battle tested at the highest levels by the entire playerbase
>>541672627The concept of Arcane is cool, but the spec design is a fucking messSome important procs don't have any visual indicator on the normal UI, getting multiple stacks on some others is extremely subtle, buttons lighting up doesn't necessarily help the playerDefinitely one I hope they redesign a lot for Midnight
>>541673197im typing a shitpost on 4chizget over it
>>541673468>he doesn't apply them while in middle of fightBet you apply condom before sex lol
>>541673501
>>541673429>just fucking read manRead what? Something that doesn't exist in the game? Please stop being a retard and put yourself in the shoes of a brand new player. How in God's name would they learn about flasks, enchantments, optimal damage rotation, etc without being told by someone more experienced or looking up guides/using third party tools. I know you're lead poisoned but please try to think for a moment.
>>541673501What the fuck kind of dance is this? This is actually an affront.
>you now remember the allied race dances some allied races got
>>541673225>but some random addon dev could do it in hekili?hekili is just a facade for simulatoncraft/raidbots apl, which is created and maintained by hundreds of autistic poopsockers
>>541673132Fuck off you imbecile. You watched YouTube videos and do research on your class outside of wow to get better. Don’t try to gaslight anons lmao. You fucking clown.>dude I’m an elite mythic raider and I NEVER EVER look things up to make me better, i fact back in 2006 when YouTube didn’t exist, we just had to push fire ball and fire blast. Kids these days are so bad they need resources to tell themYeah im sure you figured this rotation out all by yourself with your big boy pantsAlign Shadow Blades + FlagellationUse Symbols of Death in sync with Shadow Dance + Secret TechniqueUse Vanish when not in Shadow Dance at low combo pointsUse Thistle Tea during Shadow Dance for mastery gainUse Shadow Dance twice per major cooldown windowHold your 2nd Symbols of Death until Secret Technique cooldown is < 10s to supercharge itOpener (example): Stealth Shadowstrike Flagellation Rupture Shadow Dance + Symbols of Death Backstab Secret Technique (+ Cold Blood) + Shadow Blades Shadowstrike Eviscerate Shadowstrike Coup de Grace Shuriken Storm Coup de GraceAfter opener, follow priority and adjust for combo point refunds (if using Shadowcraft talent)Stay in Stealth if possibleIn Shadow Dance: use Shadowstrike, use Shuriken Storm when ≥ 4 targets (if not Trickster)Outside Shadow Dance: on 1 target use Backstab, if >1 target use Shuriken StormFinishers:• In shadow dance: at ≥6 combo points use Black Powder (if ≥4 targets) or Eviscerate• Outside dance: keep Rupture on durable targets, otherwise dump with Black Powder or EviscerateUse Shuriken Tornado on cooldown (or delay if big pack / upcoming Shadow Dance)Align cooldowns similarly (Shadow Blades + Flagellation, etc.)
>>541673241>>541672793PARSESKEYSMUH METAMUHMUhMMUUUHH MEETAAAAKEYSNUMBERSTREAMERSAIDM+ GO UPMUH RIOYour rating can't go down niggerYour pares don't mean SHIT when you're just following onscreen prompts you dumb faggot.You're literally a retard in adult daycare putting the block in the square hole and you think you're elite for managing it.Uninstall EVERY SINGLE ADDONthen post parses you fucking fag.
>>541673679Of course I do, I learned them all IRL
>you now still wait for dance studio and new dances
>>541673542You outed yourself as one of those dummies that looks at his favorite streamer doing +20s and questions other players in a +2 about why they aren't using the same talents.
I like it for a druid race, but did they axe the skinnier body type?
>>541673730thanks for addressing all of my arguments and not sperging. You really proved me wrong.Look, old man, I'm sorry Blizzard is shutting down Turtle but don't come in here and take it out on us.
WHICH GAMEPLAY/ANNOUNCEMENT (NOT CGI) TRAILER WAS THE BEST IN YOUR OPINION?
>>541673730Did you think this was the classic wow thread?
>>541673974https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtpakgIWsJQ
>>541673650>Read what?your talents and spells moron>optimal damage rotationit is literally intuitive on 90% of specs if you have the most basic level of reading comprehension>consumesgrasping for straws>new playernah, fuck em
>>541674040what the fuck why are all the comments russian
>>541673652The Floyd Fent Shuffle
>do this ONE WEIRD TRICK to do 20% more dps than everybody else!>>541673839my bad I'm sure you know better than literally every poopsocker playing this game>b-but my low keys buildnobody fucking cares what build you have in a +2, are you for real? and it's only even remotely relevant to dot specs of which there are fewtldr post title / top20 ce or fuck off with your stupid nonsense
>>541673717nigger you understand that gods you worship are just millenial gamers who figured all that shit out on their own right?Those guides are written by people who rawdog the game and then have turned their ability to do so into a service they sell you because you are unableYou dumb fuck who is so dumb you cannot even comprehend that people who are not retarded exist.LIKE NIGGER DO YOU THINK THE DEVS DESIGNED THAT ROTATION?DO YOU THIN K THEY ARE COMPETENT ENOUGH TO OPTIMIZE THAT SHIT?NOTHEY FART OUT SOME HALF BAKED CHANGES AND THEN SOME 34 YEAR OLD NERD WHO HAS BEEN PLAYING WOW SINCE HE WAS 16 MAKES SENSE OF IT.DO YOU THINK THOSE GUIDES YOU READ JUST POP OUT OF THE FUCKING ETHER YOU ABSOLUTE TROG.
>>541673717this nigga must be a time traveler when all rogues needed to do was keep their bleeds up and spam eviscerate at 3 combo points
Anyone else removed all their combat addons early? I don't want to be dependent by Midnight.
>>541674015you do not need third party tools to play modern wow you absolute brown fucking monkey.White guys manage it every day.
>>541662376Haranir are okay, but the point stands that no one asked for them and they don't make the game better in any way
>>541674107You are braindead and you will be dead of a heart attack very soon. No one will mourn you.
>>541674145those guide are written with simulations ran over and over again with the best output of damage and then the log is reviewed and turned into a rotation helper retard.
>Lords of Warfucking KINOnu-devs could never make such savage and warcraft content, now it's all gay and muh feelings
>>541667767An elf expansion is always an ORCED expansion too tho
>>541674220gonna use remix to ease into playing without them
>>541674145>he thinks guides are written by some fat dummy who works for IcyVeins plugging away at training dummies all dayHoly cow WoW players are some of the dumbest in the world.
>>541674290You don't need two hands to play wow, but you still grey parse if you do. Nobody cares that you can intuitively make sense of what to push and still get outdone by a worse player just using a WA to track his shit.
>>541674141All I can tell you is what Icy veins was recommending was far worse than the alternative and Im sure it's not the only example. They're guides made by one person and they can be wrong. No one in this thread is competing for world firsts, I can promise you that, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't understand your class, have an addon play the game for you, or just copy a streamer. That's very gay.
>>541672434at this point i'm convinced that most people being shit at their class is part of blizzard's intended plan for the game. maybe the simplified classes won't have this issue but i'm almost certain at least some of them still will.>>541672716they could make their version customizable and give it import codes.
>>541674347and who programs the sim?a 34 year old millennial nerd who fundamentally understands the class and so knows which spells to put where and when.Maybe he uses the sim to iterate and tweak for the last 5%, but its not like its random typewriter monkeys.You fucking modern retards think computers are fucking magic.Like you are a cargo cult of the civilization I actually grew up in.
>>541674653Going to throat so many Haranir gocks
Will the next thread be better?
>>541674335at least i can pass minimum competency on literacy, and i dont need hekili or toobers to parse 95+hahahahahahaha
>>541674689You just straight up have no clue what you are talking about.
>>541674782Even if mine's a flared one?
>>541674220i did a few dungeons today with all addons disabled. i was already hearing airhorn and MOVE BOSS and CHARGING YOU and INTERRUPT ONE in my head - felt so fucking weird lol
>>541674689So you are implying anyone could do that then? Cause this entire argument is a majority of players cant play their class or rotation without help. jesus christ.
Im changing my stance about addons being removedI used to just think you fags were bads crutching, But Ive come to realize youre not even badsyoure not even gamersYour addons should be removed and you should have all your progress and collections wiped and be banned.If you used weakauras or heleiki you niggers never even played WoW.
EHHAAAAAAAYAHHHEYYYYYYYYYAHDEYYYYYYYAHHAAAAAAAAAAAYAH
I resubbed today and expexted remix but it's just not up yet? why?
>>541674825I'm not even the same person you were arguing with. You are autistic and disagreeable and have few friends in your life.
>>541674912Based
>>541674804if there are more new xala'tath slops yesolder xally pics give ppl old memories that means they remember older posts and just shitposts the same thing like you have read 2 days ago1 new Xally means 1 new fresh post to feel different
>>541674947retard shut the fuck up already jesus fucking christstop acting like a literal child
>>541674804/wowg/ is at its best when there is no moderation whatsoever and its just constant shitflinging
Is no one doing dungeons anymore? I haven't seen a call to arms bonus in three days. Addon news unironically killing the game.
>>541674947i dont man i guess just spend two minutes googlingOH SORRY according the boomers you should be able to find out everything in the game within the game because it has all the info
>just trust the tooltips bro
>>541675126what kind of retarded faggot run heroic dungeons at this point of the expansion lmao
Will I need to download another client to play Lemix?
>>541674610good thing I didn't say you should give a shit about icyveins guides but to go look up what the top rated / highest parsing people are actually using>, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't understand your class, have an addon play the game for youfunny thing: hekili helps you with that a lot, because instead of your fallible monkey brain it's essentially a rotation bot. The way I do it is I rip off the objectively best build from archon.gg or whatever statistics site you like, then read the tooltips I have, then go to dummies and record my gameplay - which then gets compared to what hekili recommends (you are NOT better than a rotation bot) to figure out what I'm misunderstanding about how the skills workhekili is hugely helpful to the 98% of the playerbase that aren't theorycrafters but also care about your performance. It's not really required by any means, nor is using the One Annointed Build that people use, but it's the easiest, most reliable way to get excellent performance in m+ / raids rather than do your own theorycrafting based on feels
>>541674992didn't ask
I have literally never installed an addon in my life but to pretend that you can play optimally and clear high end retail content without ever looking at some type of external guide is laughable.
What class/race do people with mental illness play??I need to know for M+
>>541673854>>541674653
>>541674910>Cause this entire argument is a majority of players cant play their class or rotation without helpyes and thats a problem CAUSED BY ADDON ABUSEthey NEVER LEARNED HOW TO PLAY WOW CUS THEY INSTALLED CHEATS AT LEVEL 80 AFTER BUYING A LEVEL BOOSTand the REASON that culture has taken hold is that endgame PVE has been entirely captured by the arms race between encounter design/class design devs and addon/cheat makers which has been going on since ~MoPFights and classes have 57 different obscure interactions PRECISELY BECAUSE of the existence of these fucking adds trivializing all the baseline designTHE WHOLE FUCKING POINT of disabling and banning these addons is to beable to go back to encounter and class design where the average player can play the class at 90% effectiveness completely unaided because the idea that you should need a bunch of third party shit to operate your game avatar is OFFENSIVELY ABSURD.
>>541675317Night elf
>>541675317dragthyr and female nelf
>>541675171that bug with pets and the dwarf/tauren racial is a thing for all classes as wellmakes them the best dps race for hunter and warlock by far
>>541675317its not so much race or class but server. Avoid all LatAm serversAlso in my personal experience >any vupera>any MALE pandaren>any FEMALE worgen>any demon hunter>most pres evokers
>>541675257no its part of retail, its just a ruleset and instance
>>541675317mentally ill people play meme races that noone cares about so that they can feel special.shit like goblins and worgenmentally well people play normalfag races like human and elf.
>>541674874Especially if it's a flared one.
>>541674689>a 34 year old millennial nerd who fundamentally understands the class and so knows which spells to put where and when.anon you seem kinda lostit's math niggas simulating millions of combat encounters, not some autist that -really- knows their spec who is handcrafting what's optimal rotation. how would that even work when it changes with secondary stats, as an example?
>>541675317blood elf anything
>>541675257no it works on the retail clientmake sure you properly select what realm your chars are on so they transfer properly later
>>541675337>blizzard balances the game around external resources that all players aren't guaranteed to have. I think you need to put down the blizzard cocks cause thats a flat out lie, they dont do that shit, they never did that shit, and they never will do it.
>>541675521We should do something about it once they're out then...
>>541675337I agree with you that this game has become so complicated and bloated because of addonsI agree that they should be removedHowever, to pretend that WoW gives players all the information they need to perform at a high level with is just wrong. I hope this changes in Midnight.
>>541675301think you're talking to a woman
i met fem draenei paladin in the tavern and I CAN FEEL LIGHT INSIDE OF ME AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
>>541675673probably, the thought had crossed my mind as well
>>541675279You're obviously putting in the work so none of my comments apply to you and in fact support what you are saying. My first comment was directed at people who rely on guides and rotation bots 100% and never think critically about their class. There's a big difference between complete reliance on guides and addons and actually being a theory theorycrafter oneself.
>>541675618They literally said they did that because they were in an arms race with WA devs for raid encounters which is why everything was crazy hard in SL
>>541672539>have toyou have the power known as "free will" nigga
>>541675337anon have you considered that USING ALL CAPS won't stop you from knowing literally nothing about the topic you're talking about?you don't know how any of that shit works, just calm down and go for a walk
>>541675019what the fuck is your issue?>>541675135yea seems like it jesus.
>>541675849>s-stop YELLING at me
>>541675826I dont believe them. They just made shit to autstic and didnt wanna get any more flak for making the worst expansion in the games timeline.
It's so over.
>>541675932You pugged black temple once in and the end of 2.5.3 and have been riding the high ever since pretending you're good at this game. let it go grandpa
>>541675337Based post
>"bro just read your tooltips lmao">huh everybody's playing this other talent but the one I like is clearly better numbers-wise?>lmao what retards Imma show them upreality: the other skill has been bugged for the last 4 months, enjoy your 3% dps loss
>>541675337>because the idea that you should need a bunch of third party shit to operate your game avatar is OFFENSIVELY ABSURD.blizzard is not even attempting to address the issue of third party resources being required. you will still be using sim results to figure out gear choices, talent builds, and likely details of your rotation.the only thing they're changing is not letting you put those third party resources in game where they are easier to use.
Does not having addons in Midnight mean that I must start taking testosterone pills????
>>541676137>the other skill has been bugged for the last 4 months,pfttt how am i supposed to know that? ITS NOT IN THE ADVENTURE GUIDE ZOOMER!!!!!!!!!!
>>541676137No one cares and I'll have fun anyway. Your achievements in this game are worthless.
Hey kids!you want to know how you won an argument?when some retard is so assblasted they indirectly seethe post over 10 timesbtfoyou lost retard
I really couldn't care less about all this addon autism desu
>>541676265if you're not with us you're against us
>>541676265you would not get it man if you were doing HIGH END content (+10s) like I do you LITERALLY can NOT play this game without them
>>541675826>They literally said they did that because they were in an arms race with WA devs for raid encounters which is why everything was crazy hard in SLso they make the entire game worse so that liquit / echo / method have more fun during the race or something?
>>541676265stupid sexy dragon
>>541675659>WoW givesit doesnt and it should READ NIGGA READLEARN BY OBSERVATION AND EXPERIMENTATIONBE A REAL HUMAN.EVOLVE OUT OF THIS GOYCATTLE STATE YOU HAVE DECLINED INTO.WoW HAS NEVER GIVEN every detail, has never held your hand, AND THAT IS HOW GAMES WORK, ITS NOT A FUCKING COLOR BY NUMBER ITS NOT A FUCKING NOVEL ITS A GAME YOU HAVE TO LEARN THINGS TO PLAY IT. YOU HAVE TO SOLVE CHALLENGES TO BEAT IT.Like HOLY FUCKthis saga of addons getting removed and the WAILING in response has exposed what a bunch of hopeless skill-less mindless shitter you all have allowed yourselves to be.There are WHOLE SWATHES of wow players this will not effect AT ALL, at every level of play from the shitters to the very top, who juse never used that shit and are fully capable of play without it.According to the addon crutchers we cannot possibly exist because playing that game without their crutches is "IMPOSSIBLE" Like fucks sake what a self report"I am an incompetent retard who is incapable of unaided learning" "The school system shat me out without me having learned the most fundafuckingmental core skill youre supposed to learn in school. HOW TO LEARN SHIT FOR YOURSELF WITHOUT INSTRUCTIONS.I have Original fucking WoW stratedgy guides from fucking 2004.I have fucking read them. Why the fuck would I need to do that? I'm a white kid who grew up in the 1990s, I can learn anything by picking it up and fucking with it for 30 minutes.
>>541676172This is the fundamental issue. It is a complete farce to go around telling people you personally experimented with every permutation and figured out which gems to socket into your gear and what enchant to put on your bracers. Which trinket is best for you, etc.If people are actually claiming this, it is a lie. Or perhaps WoW is literally all they do and they spend hours and hours a day sitting at training dummies running tests, which would be an immense waste of time.
>>541676059
>>541676251You're right that old man should lay down for his nap and stop pretending he never once opened wowhead.com once in his entire 80 years on this earth.
>>541676414>"I am very smart">proceeds to post absolute nonsenseyou might have white skin but you're brown in spirit
>>541676395>so they make the entire game worse so that liquit / echo / method have more fun during the race or something?yes and those of us who love WoW have been rioting about it for a fucking decade now.I keep saying it and I'll say it againNOTHING IN WOW LITERALLY NOT ONE SINGLE THING ONE SPEC ONE ENCOUNTER ONE SCRAP OF CONTENTShould be designed for "Professional Gamers"
>>541676265there's 3 types of wow playerspeople who play the gamepeople who think they play the gameand people who cheat
>>541676243>No one cares and I'll have fun anywayI mean I'm going to kick out of my raids because you're at the bottom of the damage meter so how much fun are you really going to have?Inb4 youre in some dadguild that just carries your retarded ass
>>541675337>cheatsAh yes the age old, "Anyone better than me is a sweaty hacker" lmao imagine people who are 30+ years old still huffing this much much cope All this talk about blizz "finally" making good encourner design is fucking hilarious when they already have been to some extent, there's mythic bosses even like kyveza, cauldron, loomithar, soulbinder, etc that don't need a single weakaura to do and shitters will still never be able to beat it anywaya because moving their character from spot A to spot B when an arrow gets pointed at them is too much of a cognitive overload.
>>541676414>I can learn anything by picking it up and fucking with it for 30 minutes.Post your parses then idiot. Show me a mythic dimsensius kill or shut the fuck up.
>>541676724Raiding is cringe, sorry. I only PvP and M+. Hope you raid shitters all quit the game now that your addons are gone.
>>541676615Us hekili chads do all three.
WoW should be a 18+ game since the game requires a subcription and an amount of gaming knowledge that that WoW player could understand when they see an Ion broadcast about class changes or new expansion features.
I am kinda interested in playing Survival now that their main ability is a fucking shotgun blast. Idk which race to pick for my hunter though.... Which race would use a shotgun?
>>541676414>I have Original fucking WoW stratedgy guides from fucking 2004.you mean the strategy guides that gave a bunch of objectively incorrect information and advice? Man you're stupid.
>>541676584I am fucking tilted by how entitled the shitters are.acting like it is some kind of unreasonable burden that they be expected to learn how to play the game.And the fact they have the nerve to try to talk down to ANYONE while being held up entirely by skill-substitutes. "BRO YOURE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO HAVE CHEATED LIKE I DID IM SUCH A PRO CHEATER LOOK AT HOW MANY CHEATS I USE I BEAT ALL THE THINGS WITH MY CHEATS IM THE BEST"like the fucking LUNACY of it.
>>541676432trinkets are particularly bad because let's say you open up your vault and you have two trinket options.you cannot, except in extreme cases where one just gives you a stat you already know isn't that useful to you, know which one is better just from looking at them. the item descriptions do not contain important details of how they work like proc chance or ICD. you have to either test them or sim them, and you can't test them because you don't have them yet.
>>541676884lol
>>541676414Their seething has given me insight into how the mind of a zoomer operates (it doesn't) and it seems to be either by choice or by birth that they just want someone to tell them what they should be doing.
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24239491/legion-remix-goes-live-october-7
Is it Oct 7th for both NA and EU?
Stupid fuckin idiot retard question, is there a decent amount of content in TWW for someone who never played it (or since BFA for that matter)? Like can you still do all the old story stuff or is it a waste of time and you get catapuled to the final patch and encouraged to ignore everything before?
>>541676960>Which race would use a shotgun?panda, dwarf, draenei, orc, humanany race that uses guns over bows i think would work
>>541676414with your retard logic a strategy guide is basically going to wowhead or installing an addon so I guess you fucking lose the argument shithead.
>>541676187Expose your balls to sunlight
>>541676395>so they make the entire game worse so that liquit / echo / method have more fun during the race or something?they've been doing it since long time lol. to be absolutely precise - it has all started with Ulduar Hard Modes, then transitioned into Heroic ICC, and then Cata became the first big fuck-you to casuals (absolute vast majority of players) because even 5-man dungeons were fucking gigabrutal at the start compared to wrath. game is tuned around rwf/mdi/at. they don't give a fuck about average andy.but the problem is - average andies over time have dropped this game in masses and ain't coming back. and these rfw/mdi/at cucks ain't generating any money either - as a matter of fact, they are also leaving this sinking ship off to better cash sources.so this whole MIDnight shitshow is panic-mode last resort to try to reverse the decay process, because microsoft is not gonna tolerate these incompetent dumb fucks aka 'game directors' from Elitist Jerks for long with falling sub numbers. somebody gonna repay those billions.
lemix more like gaymix
>>541676843The things Hekili and WA do would be called cheats in any other gameIts like in a shooter having an lead indicator on every enemy telling you exactly where to shoot to headshot them, you still have to put your sights on the indicator, but thats all youre doing, you're not estimating the lead and drop. you're not firing and adjusting.You're clicking to win-solution formulated by the tool for you. If thats how the game is designed fine, but if its a thing you have installed over top of the game you are cheating.
>>541677018>I refuse to use the tools available but at least I'm shit on my own terms!cool, but you should at least stop trying to explain shit you clearly know nothing about if you want anybody to take you seriously you retarded triggered snowflake
>>541677018>learn how to play the game.People who look up guides know infinitely more about this game and how it works than you.
>>541677403>comparing pve mmorpg to a game where all you do is aim
>>541677381ulduar hard modes were kino actually
Xisters...they are turning Lor'themar into a chud (based) and I don't want to be the villain! I want him to be a sissy wifeguy!
>>541675619Just post her when they're out assuming you are also EU
>>541677215once you hit level 80 they want yout to play manaforge but you arent going to really find groups pushing the raids like undermine or the spider raid. If they are forming a group for that its for transmog and they expect you to be so overgeared the mechanics barely matter. Youll get a full leveling experience as long as you dont use the midnight boost token. I think theres plenty for a new player to get into and the game play is pretty good atm.
>>541677085um ok zoomer? back in molten core you could look at the OFFICIAL wow strategy guide lol you cant even think for yourself
>>541677085I rely solely on esoteric knowledge I call gamefeel. I simply intuit which trinket is superior for me and I choose it with no regrets or second guessing.
So am I supposed to just do content for bronze with 1 char in legion remix or will I be able to spam chars in dungeons to get ez bronze like in mop remix?
>>541677323>>541677012I meant to say I have never read themI started and got to a page where it said using /spit or /rude at people was mean and unacceptable and then I closed that gayass faggot book.
>>541677553you should let your enemies win...
>>541677381>it has all started with Ulduar Hard ModesIf the existence of ulduar HM is proof that shit's bad... maybe you should reconsider your argumentsmaybe those were shit for the classic turdmonglers with their frostbolt rotations but anyone with half a brain enjoyed them, just as they enjoy retail (warts and all) more than the boring, repetitive schlock of wotlk aoe dungeon spam
>>541677168maybe you should try and see it through the perspective of someone whos never played the class ever in their life instead of assuming its some toddler with a bib on.
>>541677553>Liadrin advocates for the AmaniBruh what the fuck is this? At least Arator has been away in Outland and crap so you can MAYBE forgive him for being braindead about allegiances. But why in the everliving fuck would Liadrin defend the Amani. She has been taking an active part in Quel'thalas defence against them throughout the entire game (and lore).
>>541677704you're just really stupidstill waiting on that CE dimensius proof
>>541677553Lor'themar and Turalyon fought against the Amani during the Second War and know first hand how evil they can be, why is it a bad thing to kill your enemies now... ?
fucking jeets
>>541677553ZASED Lor'themar holy shit (they are 100% going to kill him off RIP my nigga).
>>541677518I am making an analogy.Any other game where a third party tool solves 80% of the game for you and you just press the button to complete the prepared solution youd be banned for cheating.I have no idea whay it has taken blizz so long to come to this realization but happilly they have and now all you fags will either get gud, get left behind or keep cheating and git banned.
>>541677745>pair of players who decided to create their own build rather than use a guide.webm
>>541676724>I mean I'm going to kick out of my raids because you're at the bottom of the damage meterThis is why blizzards anti add-on campaign will ultimately fail, XIV got it because they ban all add-ons and take steps to prevent this type of toxic behaviour that add-ons cultivate.Blizzard somehow thinks removing all add-ons will make wow a more welcoming or friendly place for newcomers or somehow stop older players from shitting on noobs for lacking the same level of dedication, research or game sense as them. It's all going to blow up in their face when people use the inbuilt DPS meter to bully weaker players, only this time they don't have tools like Hekili or DBM to bring them up to speed without having to do research, watch videos on YouTube or read wowhead guides.
>>541677745>>541677832>>541677859Because it's just, bad okay?! Who cares if he was gutted by Zul'jin or set on fire? We have to forgive them! Horde are NOT villains. Liadrin simply has continued brain damage and forgot about when she advocated for letting Zul'jin go.
>>541677553its an excuse to kill another male leader, install lliadrin as the belf leader, and have a woman lead the amani
https://x.com/BigWigsWoW/status/1974525402396971428Should this be allowed in Midnight?
>>541677674pls respond I need to know
>>541677859NOOO BUT THIS IS SUPPOSED THE WORLD OF TALK ABOUT OUR FEELINGS..............................
Nobody good at the game actually cares that people use crap like hekili btw. It's almost exclusively shitters who feel threatened by other shitters using rotational guides to pull 500k more DPS in their normal raids and think that addons are what's holding them back from being a half of fame raider with 5999io and 27 discord kitten gfs (male).
>>541677557I play both regions now... I plan on having one on either anyway...Here's what I came up with in the dressing room so far
Legion remix starts tomorrow?
>>541678083Yup at 3pm
>>541677839>>541677018>"BRO YOURE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO HAVE CHEATED LIKE I DID IM SUCH A PRO CHEATER LOOK AT HOW MANY CHEATS I USE I BEAT ALL THE THINGS WITH MY CHEATS IM THE BEST"
>>541677553...is Liadrin legitimately retarded?
>>541677820There's something to be said for picking up a game or even a new class, sucking for awhile, and then figuring it out. That applies to most things in life actually, and it's specifically what I don't see a big desire to do in the younger generations.
>>541677018>>541676414there's no point talking sense to these defeatist retards they already think they can't play the game without addons and are just coping hard making every excuse they can think of to try to spin the narrative and make blizzard backpedal (they're hoping really hard for it, that blizzard will revert changes on addons) THEY WON'T REVERT THE ADDON CHANGE RETARDS IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE CLASS CHANGES AND THEIR GAME PHILOSOPHY THIS EXPANSION IT MAKES PERFECT SENSEYOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING ADDON SHITTERSTHERE IS NO ARGUMENTGET FUCKED AND CRY MORE
>>541678000>without having to do research, watch videos on YouTube or read wowhead guides.um you need to do ZERO research ever and you can orange parse on arcane by just ummm reading the spellbook NOOB ZOOMER
>>541678072Good good. Would let her plap my elf daily
>>541678031you know they are just mirroring the new blizzard in game dbm right?
>>541677553BASED LORTHEMAR
>>541678063>calls others shitters>is scared shitless of not being able to play with 3000 addons telling you what to docurious
Portergauge status?
https://us.support.blizzard.com/en/article/364991Timewalking Demon Hunter character cannot obtain Felsaber. If you wish to earn this mount, please create a new Demon Hunter character, and complete the Demon Hunter introduction campaign.OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>541678158Yes. This is her revenge for the Thalyssra garbage. I also hope she remains absent for the expac and she is totally retconned from Lor'themar so he can be a chad one last time.
>>541678230I didn't know that.
>>541678182post HoF / title
>>541678043I don't think anyone knows the most efficient method yet, or if they know they're keeping it secret. But yeah, you can farm it through instanced content or open world through hard mode.
>>541677832I can't wait for Danath Trollbane to acknowledge his past prejudices and make restitution. The healing process has begun and we will finally have peace.
>>541677403bad argument, It’s not like using an aimbot, it’s more like installing a custom HUD in a racing game that tells you exactly when to brake, when to turn, and how much throttle to give on every corner. You’re still the one pressing the buttons, but the decisions that separates skill from automation are being made for you. I can see the negative outlook on something liek that but I understand why players want a way to get back into rotation without juggling mechanics that force you to stop playing and trying to remember exactly where you left off when you can start dps again. Personally I think addons liek that help you build a solid muscle memory foundation for your key bindings and those reps make you play flat out better on that spec. Even if you remove the addon, you muscle memory will have been installed and you can call in those moves or cool downs without thinking. Its a good tool overall, sorry to see it go.
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>>541678120I don't use addons. So, what now? I can assume you're shitposting while in line for a dole renewal or something but I'd really like to see some proof of your skill since you know more about this game than mathematical simulations run thousands of times over
>>541678298yeah they are adding dmb and details to the base game because thats important unless they make vanilla tier encounters again
>>541678063
>>541678251Nooo my ugly ass class mount!!! Only good one was shamans from what I remember which they have reused like 5 times at this point.
>>541678246Dilating with Zul'jarra
>>541678015I hope we genocide the Amani and Baal finally ropes himself
>>541678182stop replying to yourself Alzheimer's is setting inwake up old man! you're not spamming frostbolt anymore!!!!!
>>541677553I mean imagine a troll player (me) going there and Lorthemar is like >KILL THOSE LONG NOSES UGLY GREEN SKIN BASTARDS
>>541678246Gromnak status? Still crashing out after spilling his spaghetti-os?
>>541678031timeline is ultimately superior. timeline is also not blizzard's invention, but community invention. it is players who created it and decided that it is a better way of showing data, and it is hard to argue. it will be also just a reskin of blizzard data but more bloated and less reliable. soz. boss mods are dead and finished, they should just pack-up.
>gruesome amounts of blood in old wow cinematicswe became too fucking gay, bros...
>>541677553Chud'themar and Chudralyon bros rise the fuck up
>>541678238I personally don't care what they do with addons. If the expansion is fun I'll play it, get CE in my dad guild and push keys with friends. If it's shit I'll unsub, simple as. Just find it amusing that people are acting smug like good players are suddenly going to stop being good players or that weakauras are the ONLY thing separating the guy who can't time a +10 today and the guy doing a +20.
kek
>>541678520he says while he repeatedly clicks the single "next ability" button the addon lights up for him.
>>541678473Shadowlands resto was kinda fun
>>541678043>>541655404ORCED RAW
>>541678213kek my bad gang.
>>541678542It's like when he said to genocide the Zandalari in Throne of Thunder. It's so funny. Maybe Blizz is forcing your troll to be self-hating baka
>>541678261Yeah, Thalyssra being pushed onto Lor'themar is fucking awful and all due to that one man hating cunt that doesn't even work at Blizzard anymore
>>541678542>be dark spear / Zandi troll>by the light! KILL THOSE FILTHY FOREST TROLLS>Dark spear and Zandi agreeCurious.
>>541678626The gob squad are the by the most powerful npc group in the world>btfo a massive naga army>btfo the alliance during the highland campaign>btfo the twilight hammer during the same campaign >btfo the dark shamans>btfo the naga, the blood trolls and their massive corrupted titan keeper during bfa
>>541677553Stormwind is Silvermoon's greatest ally
>>541678795ok i laughed fuck you
>in 10 years AI will be so powerful it will be able to effortlessly create private servers of WoW with better graphics than current, professional-tier cinematics and voice acting, and voiced quest lines and characters alongside modern combat from a single prompt it's only a matter of time before Blizzard becomes completely irrelevant
>>541678581I have to admit. They're a pretty based duo and I think they should bring back Genn to make the chud trio.
>>541678221Good, she might need that at the very least
>>541679007But that's not funny. Why did you laugh?
>>541678359>when the guy with the gay bara PFP thinks you're too gay kek that gnome guy is a freak though,.
>>541678814The darkspear marked the followers of zul for destruction since cata.>>541678949Both tribes despise most of the other tribes for eating their loas.
>liadrin, first of the blood knight, somehow became a retarded peacenikbruv literally her entire life was spent hating and fighting Scourge and Amani trolls, whom she hated from childhood as they slaughtered her parents
>>541679018three boomers from the second war, it fits desu
>>541678837It really made me hate him and her when it happened. They destroyed both characters and it makes no sense because he and Liadrin were so into each other. It does make me wonder if Metzen course corrected seeing as how the shitborne are nowhere to be found and it's just him, liadrin, and the army of light. Just forced and stupid self-insert shipping.
>>541679018why does the playerbase hate them so much
is the boomer sperg in here? last i saw he was not addressing any actual arguments and just capslocking for cruise control. can we have a good thread now?
>>541678213hahahaha, but that guy actually believes this
>for some reason I have all the 1500 rated bg titlesI know someone hacked my account just to play rated bgs
What's Blizzard's plan for when 90% of their playerbase can barely clear LFR without their addons?
this.... is problematic
>>541679238Women love them. No shoes hate them for being right as do current devs like Maria Hamilton who legit may have dementia since she can't remember the lore.
>>541679013If you can get the authentic AI players that navigate the game in complete RP it would be the most fun thing to ever happen. Give them 100 personality types ranging from sweet and polite to out right racists (in game lore), grouping up with a disgruntled orc who hates you cause you’re forsaken but appreciated you helping him kill some alliance gankers. This niggah now from time to time whisper you looking to group up for dungeons (all in RP btw)) would be the sickest thing ever desu
>>541679370These two thinks are completely unrelated actually and if you played the game you'd understand that.
>>541679158women write this game nowyou should be actively expecting every element of the story to be retarded and become pleasantly surprised in the rare moments it isn't
>>541679381it wasn't 25 years ago!
>>541679013SAARRS THE AI SAARRS
>>541679018>happily married>old>white>racistthey will all be raid bosses to make way for God-Kween Faerin of all the Light-worshipping nations
>>541679506People would unironically rather play with role playing bots than real people desu
>>541679416the only reason im not killing myself is to see how far AI can progress in my lifetime.if what you've described cannot be achieved in the next decade I'm peacing out.
>>541679506people can meme about AI all they want but it's growing at a staggering pace if you're actually keeping up with it10 years is a realistic timeframe for AI being able to do some insane shit
>>541679506would you rather play with a tranny/third world brown or your own personal elf bimbo pocket-healer
>>541679195I noticed that too, the nightbore have been barely mentioned or shownhopefully metzen shelved them
>>541679578when "real people" includes ragnaros browns it's not surprisingi'd rather play with deepseek and claude than those guys
>>541679370>90% lfr without addonsstop having schizo dreams in your sleep anonstop lyingaccept the realitylfr is made for one button assistant players, not for people that need addonslearn to fucking lie and to speak like a true schizomaybe take some estrogen pills
>>541678031yes, its just a new look for the blizzard boss timers.
belf or nelf starter gooners i cant pick
>Amani playable through Darkspear just in time for the 12.1 Arms rework based beyond belief desu
>tfw the AI can play perfectly (NO ADDONS) and i'm at the bottom of the meters because i'm 65 years old and they all start flaming me but they can't ever kick me because I'm the master of their reality
>>541679921Nelf sexo
>>541679921Why not both
