Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith./ffg/ spam filter: https://pastebin.com/SJ1sb9r0>General Info on Final Fantasyhttps://finalfantasy.fandom.com>What version should I play?http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E>Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicleshttps://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c?si=d0hEChixTBdlYy_w>Final Fantasy XVI Infohttps://na.finalfantasyxvi.com>Launch Trailer "Salvation"https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs>DLChttps://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfchttps://youtu.be/aveDvd66xlk>PC Trailerhttps://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4s>Final Fantasy VII Rebirthhttps://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFwhttps://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTG>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisishttps://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omniahttps://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visionshttps://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8>Final Fantasy Brave Exviushttps://pastebin.com/mwANP4fD>Final Fantasy XIhttp://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtmlPrevious thread: >>541671279
>>541907974You forgot to include the Sopranos info
Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.
XVI? Still a bad game.
>The Hateful Eight
>>541908071FPBP
>>541908146>33%K I N O
Before you make negative remarks about Yoshida, XIV, or XVI, I want you to remember that Naoki Yoshida is a human being.
https://strawpoll.com/6QnMQoAVlne/results
>>541908146>33.33%He can't keep getting away with it.
As long as no one makes any negative or neutral remarks about Nomura, Kitase, Hamaguchi, Toriyama, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning, Remake, Tactics, or E33 we will be fine.As long as no one makes any positive or neutral remarks about XIV, XVI, Yoshida, CS3, Spirits Within, Sakaguchi or Tactics we will be fine.
>>541908516How did you find my exes game wtf
>only ever met two girls irl who were into FF>one of them was just in passing in a train station>one of them is my friends wifeI just want to find someone who loves FF but hates Rebirth :(
Buy Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles
>>541909416I did and I regret it
>>541909416I am not the demographics to pay for games (nor do have the time to play it).
>>541909416Best 10/10 Final Fantasy desu
>>541909640maybe on planet retard
>>541909640Better than XVI for sure.
>>541909929Not a high bar to clear.
Going to have an early night tonight I think lads
>>541909416Who knew this would make the shitposters upset?
Does anyone have a zip of all the artbooks?Preferably the ones for ffxiv and expansions.
>>541908204>>541908375I just hope that those totally unique, not a manipulation, 8 individual posters who voted no within minutes of each other on both polls all know that they are NOT my niggas
>>541910751>Since we are now adopting E33'fraid not.
>>541910913samefag votes aren't being counted, thankfully. E33 chads won 4 to 1!
>>541911009If you're going to disregard the results of the poll you made and off-topic shitpost anyway, why even make the poll?
>>541911119I didn't make the poll. I daren't in case I get banned again and can't talk to my frens at /ffg/.
>>541911009The cultist did NOT like this one, I'm afraid.
He's doing "the thing" again
>>541911235Right, no one made any poll, ever. Yet the poll exists, and the results have never been the shitposter's favor, and yet he continues making polls as an excuse to justify off-topic shitposting.
>>541911495Don't be so gay
>>541909416I will soon
>>541911495I made the polls
One true love & kissu hug! Canon & cute couple!
>>541911871How dare you...
>>541912164I did it for Lune
>>541908146>>541910913Why are you ban evading? You got banned last thread for spamming strapolls. Again.>>541907692https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/541671279/
To succeed, Final Fantasy must move away from traditional high fantasy.
>>541912721Very interesting
>have been accused of being banned three times in the last daySource?
To succeed, Final Fantasy must return to traditional high fantasy and leave Nomuraslop behind.
>>541912721>Why are you ban evading?Nope, not me. I did have a post deleted last thread, but I was not banned, just warned, and it had nothing to do with a poll.
I would kill to have Aerith wife.
>>541913359I would kill...Aerith
>>541912958kek
To succeed, Final Fantasy must return to turn-based.
>>541913493based
>>541913934Many people say this.
Dragon Age The Veilguard sold more copies on Steam than XVI.
>>541914189Grim. Macabre, even.
>>541914456And some still wonder why people are seriously unhappy with Yoshi
>>541903050Hello yojimbo obsessor. Pot calling the kettle black. Also see >>541897941. And you're likely the guy who melted down when I talked about Metaphor here last year because I praised it over Rebirth.>>541907129Nah, see above.
>>541914758He's currently in his self-soothing phase where he shitposts about Yoshida to make himself feel better.
>>541908304>>541908105>>541910362>>541909929>>541914735>>541914456>>541914189
>>541914980What an ugly game. Do gachakeks really?
>>541913276Serve your ban
>>541915469 here, meant for >>541914758, sorry!
>>541915469Are you gonna do that thing again where you spam "serve your ban" at people who haven't been banned? I serve all of my bans, no matter how retarded they are. I've been banned in this thread for saying "samefag" and I still served that ban. I just take a break from 4chan and/or /vg/ when I am unjustly banned.(or, occasionally, justly banned, yet more egregious posts than mine get to stay up)
>>541916425And that makes you a better person than the Fatherless.
>>541912902>>541913016The truth is in the middle
>>541907974Are there lolis in FF tactics?
>>541913016I just want him to stop acting as a director and go back to being a character designer only. I believe he's responsible for a lot of bad things within Final Fantasy. I enjoyed Advent Children, and I even liked Kingdom Hearts when it originally came out, but somewhere along the way Nomura allowed these other whispers of Cloud within his mind to become conflated with OG Cloud and especially with how OG Cloud acted prior to the schizo Zack reveal, and the Remake suffers because of this. There's also the whole Versus XIII thing, and any schizos related to vXIII or XV are things that he is directly responsible for.
>>541919159lol no
>>541913934Peak gameplay right here
>>541913934>still reposting the same fake webmcringe
E33 has sold 5m.Yoshida told his fans that turn based doesn't sell.Was he wrong?
>>541913934It's weird that unaltered gameplay of a game that (I think) /ffg/ actually likes always seems to trigger someone.
>>541919405Then it's a bad game. We will never use it for the OP image again
>>541915980You are platinum mad.
>Page 10It's so over. E33 being too popular killed FF for good.
>>541931763If only someone and their phone wasn't so damn stubborn, we could all be discussing the masterpiece GOTY Clair Obscur in here instead of sulkposting.https://youtu.be/ajcSjnooBpA
>>541931763>>541932146Reminder that E33's /vg/ thread died. This thread should be dead too, but there are 1-3 schizos (including (You)) who keep it alive solely to shitpost. Regardless, after the literal shill money dried up, people stopped talking about E33.
Reminder that a thread on /vg/ existing is not a measure of success nor quality of a video game. Especially a brand new IP
>>541933113>Reminder that a thread on /vg/ existingNo no no no no. No. It existed. There just wasn't enough interest in E33 to keep it alive. If it had never existed, that'd be one thing, but it did exist, and now it doesn't, because no one wants to talk about E33 anymore. Personally, I spent maybe a week in the E33 thread near release, I talked about the game, and then that was that. Nothing more to talk about. Just a small handful of questions which there are no answers to and wonderings about assets inside of the game that are either indicative of planned DLC or cut content (or both; perhaps they are the same thing)
>nooooo nobody wants to talk about the best game of the year and one of the highest rated video games of all time that's helping push the overton window away from an industry crashThere's rolling E33 threads on the front page of /v/ for like 6 months straight, nonstop discussion
rrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaawr
>>541934875>nonstop discussionAfter the first week or two, 90% of all """discussion""" in E33 thread became shitposting about Square Enix and/or Final Fantasy, with the usual sales shitposting being added to the mix ever since they announced 3.3 million. Not a single person talks about E33. No one here talks about E33 either, even in this thread people only mention E33 as a means to shitpost about Square Enix and Final Fantasy.
>>541935096>After the first week or two, 90% of all """discussion""" in E33 thread became shitposting about Square Enix and/or Final FantasyI should mention, that's why I stopped going into E33 threads. About two weeks after 4chan came back up, E33 threads became unusable. Truly, about one week afterwards they became unusable because the shills were astroturfing all the conversation and telling people what you're allowed to think, but about two weeks is when it truly turned into nothing but shitposts. I guess the same exact 1-3 people who spend 18 hours per day shitposting about Final Fantasy in /ffg/ use their energy to shitposting about Final Fantasy in E33 threads when they're not spending it by shitposting in /ffg/. I wonder what it is about Final Fantasy that attracts such schizos like that. Because all they do is shitpost even in non-FF threads, like E33. I never went to a Metaphor thread, but I hear that the same 1-3 people spent hours melting down in Metaphor threads as well.
So true
>>541907974Square Enix should make a Star Wars game.
>>541937359
>>541937359Honestly? It's been really, really good.
>>541937767Dialogue in FFXVI is better.
>>541915254Better than rebirth. Which admittedly isn't a high bar, but still.
>>541937869Better than Final Fantasy Tactics Remaster?? Lol. Lmao, even. Delita >>>>>>> everyone in XVI
Is he setting himself up for a shitpost, or is he just false flagging? Tune in to find out!
>>541938086Clive is a bastard child.
>>541938002Yes, because FFXVI was done in English first. EN script > JP script
/ffg/ having 5 off topic schizos baiting each other in an endless bitter loop proves final fantasy is thriving. Where's E33s general? Exactly, what a failure.
>>541938760If the schizos had any integrity whatsoever, they'd let the thread die instead of necro bumping it from page 10 with a shitpost, so that they can keep shitposting.
>>541939083Even though nobody here actually talks about ff here, the general existing means we win and E33 loses
>>541939261I do. I talked about SoP last thread.
>>541939336*I samefagged about SoP last thread
People who liked E33 must be so jealous that they're missing out on... all this...
>>541939492Calm down Jimbo. You'll get your turn later.
>>541939960Off topic AND ban evasion?
I am playing 12main gauche existing is a disaster because these cool ninja swords are never, ever getting used, man
>>541940291If you think the swords are cool you should use them. No need to minmax unless you're having trouble.
>>541940474maybe in the future, as it is i was just fighting antlion and that almost went south even with me blocking every other smack, if I give up this evasion right now it probably won't go well
>>541940092 here, meant to quote >>541939492
>>541942163SoP is final fantasy. Unlike the 200 petty no u posts you inevitably contribute to this thread.
>>541942163We accept your surrender, child.
My wife Eiko is cute!
If Rebirth hadn't sold so few copies that Square Enix still has never said anything about its sales other than that it and Foamstars were disappointing, maybe this wouldn't have happened.
>>541949041VIIR failed.
>>541949168It succeeded in some areas and failed in others. However, sales was not one of the areas it succeeded in.
Aerisu :3
>>541949041Maybe what wouldn't have happened?
>>541938760>Where's E33s general?here
They just don’t want to embarrass XVI by revealing Rebirth’s sales.
>>541947908The bestest
>>541908146Plebbit 33 doesnt belong here >>541909416I don't like the artstyle nor Fire Emblem gameplay >>541913934When FF17 releases even if it's turn based fags in here Will compalin about something >>541933113Reminder that a games sales are not a measure of quality and plebbit 33 proves this >>541934875Paid shills
In some cases, sales matter a lot. In others, they don't matter at all. A lot of you would be wise to realize this.
>>541953480The only way for XVII to get shit harder than XVI is that if it had a nigger as the main character. The gameplay can't possibly be worse than XVI's, especially now that SE said they're using the 7R combat as a foundation for future projects. At least we don't have to worry about that.
>>541951976All I know is that XVI was a bad game and SE doesn't want to make the same mistake with the gameplay going forward.
>>541954416If people like a turn based FF, it means my years of defending Remake were based on lies, and that I cannot allow.
>>541951803This entire current arc that /ffg/ is experiencing, which only began once Square Enix failed to announce any sort of sales numbers for Rebirth.
>>541956662Finally time to have anal with "Sephiroth".
Rebirth is the best FF since X.
>>54195702510 is overrated.
>>541955747I would rather like to believe it would be much the same.The idea that a bunch of people are only miserable because a couple of video games undersold is too sad a thought to bear.But given that the games underselling has given rise to those who decided to make shitting on them their entire personality, I suppose I must accept the truth.
>>541957419Still better than XVI.
>>541954416Rebirth has the best combat system ever created in the history of vidya
>>541959676Is that you, Yoshi-P?
>>541960784He's right about everything but the FF16 comat
Aerith is the Final Fantasy.
Floperith killed Final Fantasy with Flopbirth.
>>541908146>Total votes: 12I TOLD you NIGGERS this general only has 10 or so posters anymore. I fucking TOLD YOU!/ffg/ and 4chan is fucking DEAD! DEAD!
>>541967612*Yoshida killed Final Fantasy with XVI and Dawntrail
>>541949168We got a lot of extra character stuff, which was nice. Seeing the world reimagined in a visual sense was also nice. Everything else was terrible.
>>541967969and 6 of those were the same guy lmao
>>541967969There are only 1-3 rotten apples here, too. If they decided to leave, the thread would probably die, but before it died there would be no shitposting. Imagine that.
>>541968284Sad but true.
I truly believe that I could turn things around for the company within 3 years if given creative control
>>541969243Who the fuck are you?
>>541970663Me? Square Enixs worst nightmare. A series vet.
>>541970707Oh, so just another armchair expert.
I think an armchair expert would be an improvementI think letting chris-chan run the show would be an improvement at this point
>>541971229An expert is better than a hack. At least I know what makes the series great. Or what did, at least.
I miss Tabata.
>>541972283I miss the early 2000s
>>541909416Max is playing it.Why hasn't Audrey and Genki picked up The Kinovalice Chronicles yet?
Going to go workout, which ost should I listen to? (not XIII)
>>541978021XVI of course.
>>541978158Will do x
General would be popping if we allowed E33 discussion like was previously agreed upon
>>541990110the only reason we're posting at all is to keep the general bumped and prove to the world final fantasy is still a cultural phenomenon. it doesn't matter that we don't discuss the games despite there being over 100 games to talk about. these threads and the posts in them definitely prove final fantasy is a cultural powerhouse and nobody cares about E33.
>we>we>weThat boy ain't right
Seems like a no-brainer to me
>>541991173Well (you) certainly aren't posting about final fantasy.>>541991343Pic related
>>541991585Once I'm done taking a shit, you're gonna start to get really upset about Final Fangasy posts. I hope you are mentally prepared.
>>541990110People are itching for another new game after XVI failed to move the needle. E33 is that game right now. Part 3 is all that's on the horizon, and many people are disillusioned by FFVII. It's going to be another 5 goddamn years of wait minimum for the next big game. No surprise that there's very little engagement here
>>541971814Well then, where's your pitch? I've pitched concepts here a dozen times. How would you do it?
>>541992081I post on 4chan every day to send SE a message that the people want FFXVII to have VIIR style combat. I think my efforts will really pay off five years from now when we're playing FFXVII and it has VIIR style combat. And you'll have me to thank.
>>541992353>Instantaneous false flagging....right. I think if you directly wanted to send SE a message, you would do it through more a official channel no? This is a basket weaving forum
The thread would be improved by leaps and bounds if people would post about their waifus instead of other posters
>>541992597I do it here to ensure everyone agrees with me. I am steering the ship of public opinion. To contact SE directly would make me only one voice. The work I do here lets me control the future of the series.
Yeah good luck with thatWe post heroines here sir
>>541992324Firstly, I would get rid of the deadwood, and fire all but one existing employee (I would keep one Jap working, so people don't claim we lost our soul).Secondly, I would hire all the expedition 33 devs and ask them to make some true ff kino like the good old days.
>>541932146But you threw a hissy when I was talking about Metaphor last year and saying how much better it was than Rebirth. Funny enough Rebirth PC also got dunked on by 33.>>541932716No shills, its a legit good game. It's just the usual Yoshida obsessor getting uppity again.
>>541968473Sadly true. Music was good too. But gameplay and story? Yuck!
>>541960784>KH team biggest contribution to FFXVIThen why is it missing vital pieces that KH has?
Surprised this wasn't posted here.https://youtu.be/SsCYOP07x14
>>541994709Very silly. The basis of Sandfall contributing to a new mainline FF title is not a bad idea, although it's not unique. Me and many others have all expressed the same sentiment. You could lend them the FF IP and they could make something interesting. CS1 and Sandfall team members coming together for a new dream project could be fantastic. I think the only drawback here is that the devs are so new and inexperienced. Wouldn't it be even better for video games if that team can grow naturally and turn their series into something with real lasting power, long before you come together and put eggs into baskets? Let's see how Clair Obscur 2 turns out
>>541995082>But you threw a hissy when I was talking about MetaphorDon't recall this ever happening. You must be confused. Metaphor was a great game, I loved the music and voice acting. I had problems with it though and I don't think it's a better game than Rebirth, but I understand why someone would think that. It had a fun and elegant class system.
Which modern games are similar to classic FF entries? I don't give a shit about graphics
>>541998939Expedition 33
>>541999018I've already finished it 3 times and want to give it a break until the new content drops.
>>541998939Visions of Mana and Trials of Mana are both classic, colorful and fantastical with fun Jobs systems.
>>541999702I'll give visions ago, I found trials p fun
>>541999882Visions is really good. It's not FF tier but I really enjoyed the artwork and music. PS2 game soul food
>>541998939>Which modern games are similar to classic FF entries?Classic FF entries? difficult to say, i havent been able to find games like it. Some people say exp33 but i completely disagree. The vibe is different. Its not laidback enough, its not fantasy on the same degree. It doesnt even give the same idea of an adventure. FF is more than just another turn based combat franchise.People were saying meetaphor as well back in the day but i disagree except in ONE specific cutscene that felt pure final fantasy.
Chrono Trigger Remake? Yes or no?
>>542007836Fuck no.
>>541990110Better than the 7 remake project that's for sure.
>>541993830>t. 100 deleted post spammer
WTF
>>542008035Hey now, don't call out the fatherless like that...
>>541918201Beyond based.
>>542007836It's still completely fine to play all these years later though, balance aside. I'd get it as long as it wasn't in the same vein as the 7 remake, though.
Been takin GLP-1s for the last 6 months and been coming out in hives recently, turns out I'm allergic to an active ingredient in them :( I will never look like Cloud now
>>541995082>No shills, its a legit good game./v/ went from over 20 concurrent threads 24/7 to only 1 or 2 threads that couldn't even hit bump limit, over night, as soon as June began. It is a good game, not as good as people are claiming, but there were absolutely paid shills as well.
Aerisu!
>>542011226Naturally you have a proof, right?
>>542011771You can go through the archives if you need proof that there were literally more than 20 concurrent threads for E33 24/7 and that all of these threads disappeared overnight beginning in June. (June 1st they were still up because they were already created, June 2nd they were completely gone)
>>542011423Cute! Still mogged by Tifa and Yuffie.
>>542011958So you have no proof, okay.
>>542012052yep
>>542012115The proof is there if you want to go look. I commented on it when it happened. I have never in my entire life seen a more obvious case of a game being literally shilled than E33. Good game. Not as good as the "this game is literally the best game ever" retards say, but still a good game, yet clearly and obviously hugely had a paid shill campaign on /v/
Playing a little indie horror called House of Necrosis and the spells are taken straight out of older FF games. I love it
>>542012360>proof>/pruːf/>noun>noun: proof; plural noun: proofs>evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.i.e.: having a lot of threads is not a proof.
>>542012470I can tell that the truth is upsetting for you, for some reason. It's okay, sweetie. Lots of games get shilled on /v/, and E33 was one of them. No need to get your panties in a bunch over it. If you truly desire proof, you can go through the /v/ archives and check the amount of E33 threads in May, view the last post in each of them in order to find out which ones were up concurrently, and then do this same thing for threads that were created from June 2nd onward, and see that there were significantly fewer (~18) concurrent E33 threads beginning June 2nd, because all the E33 shill money dried up. This is going to be difficult for you to track, however, because not all E33 threads say "E33" or "Clair Obscur" or "Expedition 33". They might say nothing, or they might have a picture of Maelle or Verso, or they might say Maelle of Verso, or they might have a Twitter image, etc etc. Your work is cut out for you, but the proof is there. I'm sorry that your favorite game was the target of a literal paid shill campaign, but it happened, and if you truly desire proof, you will find this out for yourself.
>>542013051Since you seem daft, I'll explain it again.Lot of threads =/= proof.Meaning this is literally just you seeing a lot of threads, and deciding by yourself that since you hate a good game, it has to be shills, without any real proof.Do you understand, or do I need to explain it even slower?
>>542013229>Lot of threads =/= proof.Well, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that there were literally more than 20 constant concurrent threads for E33 during May, and that they vanished literally overnight so that by June 2nd (after the threads created at the end of May were gone) there were only 1 or 2 threads for E33, and they had trouble hitting bump limit. A lot of threads in and of itself is not necessarily indicative of paid shill activity, you are correct, however when all of the threads disappear overnight at the beginning of a new month and they never come back, it's clearly paid shill activity. Other shill campaigns are less obvious and taper off organically. E33 discussion on /v/ fell off a cliff beginning in June, which is not how the flow of natural conversation occurs. >deciding by yourself that since you hate a good gameI don't hate E33. I said this already. It's not as good as the shills (paid and unpaid) want you to believe that it is, it's about a 7/10, but it is a pretty good game. It just had a lot of literal paid shill activity on /v/.
>>542013648>A lot of threads in and of itself is not necessarily indicative of paid shill activity, you are correct, however when all of the threads disappear overnight at the beginning of a new month and they never come back, it's clearly paid shill activity."Clearly", right. Or it could be mods FINALLY doing their job and getting rid of spam, or people playing something else. You seem to believe 4chan is worth advertising on when our reputation on the internet is of a bunch of internet raider fapping to gay porn of twinks getting their asses demolished by a massive giant cock. All I see when I look at your posts is a mix of a conspiracy theorist mixed with self-importance. 4chan isn't well-regarded enough to be warrant shill, and it's too small to have any influence anyway. Our days of making memes and having reddit eat from our ass are gone, now we are the four guys living in a gay hippie commune and throwing empty cans at passersby and calling them unvirgin losers.
LE Claire...
>>542014035>Or it could be mods FINALLY doing their job and getting rid of spamWell, it is certainly possible that E33's contract ran out at the beginning of June so that mods began pruning threads because Sandfall (or whoever) was no longer paying them, yes. That is definitely a possibility.
>>542014193Remember the part of my post about conspiracy theorists? Yeah.
>>542012052But she is the main character.
>>542014416Just telling it how it is. Literally 20+ constant concurrent threads don't magically disappear overnight and turn into only 1-2 threads beginning in June naturally. It doesn't work like that. It cannot be that literally everyone on /v/ all decided together, without planning it before hand, that no one is going to talk about E33 anymore beginning in June.
The proof that E33 is a shit game and a failure and nobody cares about it is nobody on /v/ talks about it anymore.The proof that 7R is a huge cultural phenomenon and beloved by all is we have Scarlet futa threads on /v/ Every. Single. Day.
>>542014842I don't think anyone has ever said either one of those things.
>>542014842Why are you so obsessed with E33?
>>542015116You could have said that about any of the 40 posts above mine that mentioned it. What makes you think I'm the one obsessed with it? I wouldn't even mention it if you weren't all talking about it on /ffg/ of all places.
>>542014149Final Fantasy: Vanille On The Beach...
FFT did 77.8k physical in JP. So probably over 100k in JP alone without counting steam even. Not bad, wonder if it'll lead to a sequel of sorts
>>542015812>I wouldn't even mention it if you weren't all talking about it on /ffg/ of all places.Unfortunately, someone has decided that E33 discussion is allowed in /ffg/.
>>542015029I'm saying it, because it's true.The only true measure of a game's worth is how much people talk about it. This is especially comforting when you see awards go to games other than 7R which people talk about less than the female characters in 7R.
>>542016219Interestingly enough, E33 threads are pretty much just like /ffg/ where people use it as an excuse to shitpost about Final Fantasy and Square Enix.
>>542015116Because people can't accept the fact that square enix is an out touch garbage company and e33 is proof that they could easily make games just as good as they used to in the late 90s but they clearly refuse to do so out of sheer stubborness and stupidity.
>>542014756
>>542016479It's tough out there.
I thought E33 failed the poll, so why is every thread nothing but E33 discussion? Curious.
>>542016567cont.e33 is no masterpiece, but the fact that some random french studio can make a better final fantasy game that square enix is just baffling.And no, you won't convince me that XVI is a true final fantasy mainline game just because of references. Not even CoD fans have these wack ass standards: if the new cod black ops warfare whatever was a racing game, not even they would eat it up, they would be fucking pissed.
>>542016838Seems like this anon might have an opinion on the matter: >>542016567
>>542016912>the fact that some random french studio can make a better final fantasy game that square enix is just bafflingI mean, a little indie studio made a better Pokémon than Nintendo, sooooo...
>>542016838The poll was largely infected by a 4chan hate contingent so we can ignore the results.
I miss the late 2000s
>>542017285That's a big Vanille
>>542017353U U U U
>>542016912>the fact that some random french studio can make a better final fantasy game that square enix is just baffling.E33 is more like a JRPG version of a Nier game, which is good but overall worse than Nier is. If you want "[X] niggaz in a row" made by specifically by Square Enix, you can play any one of the turn-based games they are still producing, like Dragon Quest. Or you can even play Fantasian, made by Sakaguchi with music by Uematsu. E33 is by no means any sort of Final Fantasy game. A JRPG with a world map is not something that belongs to Final Fantasy.
>it's escapism, it's not healthyE33 literally reproduces the meaning of one of the stories in the series
>>542014149This image evokes strong feelings in me.
>>542017989On another side, Metaphor message is that while escapism isnt healthy, you can still use it as strength for your daily life and decisions. Fantasy has the power to make you a better person depending on how you use, and, in not a subtle way, says that your ANXIETY and fears can be used as strength.
>>542017732The issue here is that, from what I see, when people say they want a final fantasy game "like in the good old days", they don't just mean 4 guys in a row, they specifically want something resembling VII to X (and I guess, by extention, Lost Odyssey), but with modern, top of the line graphics. I don't remember seeing as many people gushing about sea of stars or any of the other countless retro, pixelated rpgs that came out in the last years, so it seems e33 is closer to what everyone wants. For me, while yes, the resemblance to FF is kind of surface level, it definitely reminded me of that era of RPGs, in a way that only DQXI really managed to do lately.
Which char has the most lickable pits?
FF7r will always be relevant
>>542018602I need to argument to be framed entirely around "niggaz in a row" and nothing else for two reasons. Please don't stray from the strict lens which I've decided this debate must be seen through.
My beloved Angel.
>>542017732>>542018602And, to be completely honest, while the team asano games are good they are also rather generic, almost like a knock off of ff, and people only really praise them for the gameplay. At least in the case of octopath 1 and bravely 1, the story and characters aren't as engaging or memoriable as the ones in FF from VI to X, or hell, even the later ones with all of their faults.
>>542018738This means so much to me
>>542019113>memoriable
>>542018690Lightning, Tifa, Yuna.
>>542018602>they specifically want something resembling VII to X (and I guess, by extention, Lost Odyssey), but with modern, top of the line graphics.This is a very nebulous and ambiguous qualifier which I'm not sure can truly be quantified or explained in any meaningful way. Apparently you are correct though, because E33 threads are just (very likely the same people from this thread) bitching about Final Fantasy and Square Enix. >For me, while yes, the resemblance to FF is kind of surface level, it definitely reminded me of that era of RPGs, in a way that only DQXI really managed to do lately.It didn't remind me of Final Fantasy at all. It reminded me of Persona and Nier much more than Final Fantasy. Nier more so than anything else, from the music to the world to the characters, it all felt very Nier to me. Though it did also feel like a JRPG with a world map, because that's what it is, but this is once again not something unique to Final Fantasy. Then again, I have played many different games and many different kinds of games, so as a video game player, perhaps I have a broader horizon than just "this is or isn't Final Fantasy [i.e. [X] niggaz in a row JRPG with a world map]"
>>542019578purest muses...
>>542019152As a FF fan, not so much for me. Its just a franchise i like.
>>542019101giwtwm
Final Fantasy should completely eliminate RPG elements.
>>542019668>very likely the same people from this threadThere are only like 10 people here and very few of them actually do bitch about ff. There's a lot of crying about roving hoards of haters making life torture for ff enjoyers but to me it looks like some persecution complexes have spun out of control. Everyone here just assumes an evil hater is hiding behind every post, with dozens more lurking in silence. But very few actually say "ff is bad!"And even if every one of us went to /v/ to bully ff, what kind of impact would we make? /ffg/ barely moves at all but apparently these E33 threads (which don't exist anymore since the shill money ran dry?) are also populated with /ffg/ posters saying final fantasy sucks.You must realise how paranoid, miserable, insane, and frankly, pathetic, you sound. But I guess now that I've been mean to you personally, that means you'll consider me one of those SE bashers who hate FF.
>>542019857Didn't ask
>>542019668Well, just like I said, the resemblance to FF is surface level. And besides, if it really is ONLY because of the world map, then how come no one else tried to do that lately? that sounds incredibly easy. Those other elements you are talking about are not exclusive to nier either, so I don't see why you keep bringing that up, but whatever.I guess the correct choice then is to keep paying square enix for trend chasing AAA slop, decent at most retro nostalgia baits (which are actually totally just like old FF and I HAVE to love them for it) and rereleases of their actual good games.
>>542020893Non SE games must be undermined, SE games must be praised
>>542020338>There are only like 10 people here and very few of them actually do bitch about ff. There's a lot of crying about roving hoards of haters making life torture for ff enjoyers but to me it looks like some persecution complexes have spun out of control.There are 1-3 people who do nothing but shitpost about Final Fantasy. It's definitely not very many posters doing it, but the few that shitpost do so quite frequently. If we cannot agree on this objective fact, then we cannot continue a conversation, because you're being disingenuous. >And even if every one of us went to /v/ to bully ff, what kind of impact would we make?Well, (You) [i.e. one of the 1-3 shitposters who do nothing but shitpost about FF] single handed keep this thread alive so that you can continue to shitpost in it. This thread goes from (You) page 10 necro bumping it with shitposts to hundreds of posts in a couple hours depending on how lively you are choosing to be with your shitposting. I can only assume that you are exactly the same people who use E33 threads to shitpost about Final Fantasy and Square Enix. >(which don't exist anymore since the shill money ran dry?)See? You're being incredibly disingenuous. This is who you are, someone incapable of being honest. There are no longer 20 concurrent E33 threads on /v/ because, beginning exactly in June, the shill money disappeared, so 20 concurrent threads turned into 1 or 2 threads. We've already been over this, but you're too dishonest to just have a conversation. The 1 or 2 E33 threads that exist on /v/ now seem to mostly be (very likely the same people form here) just bitching about FF and SE. This is your last reply until you can start being sincere and honest. I think I'm just going to stop replying to any of your posts, since you're always lying, insincere, disingenuous, or dishonest. Those are your personality traits. You have zero honor and zero integrity.
>>542019578Yunas pits are NOT for licking.
>>542020304The already have for the last few releases
>>542019578Tifa needs spankings.
>>542021053>(You) [i.e. one of the 1-3 shitposters who do nothing but shitpost about FF]There it is. Stopped reading here because you jumped to the conclusion that I am a sworn enemy and FF hater just because you don't like my post. How ironic that you should accuse others of insincerity and being disingenuous. What's your proof anyway?Face it, I described you perfectly. You think there's only 1, 2, or 3 anti FF posters here but you also pull the "fact" that I'm one of them out of your ass and claim this 1 (me) shitposter is such an omnipresent menace that I am single handily flooding /ffg/ and every E33 thread with anti SE rhetoric 24 hours a day.You're just a schizo loser who really needs to find something to do other than sit here all day jumping at shadows.
Lune...
>>542021260Which ones?
>>542021053>if you don't like XIII, XV or XVI you are not allowed to post anything besides fanart here, don't you ever dare to complain, we want a nice little hugbox here, otherwise I'll call HR (aka that one ban happy mexican janny)this is what your bitching about "shitposting" really sounds like
>>542021053>>(which don't exist anymore since the shill money ran dry?)>See? You're being incredibly disingenuousHe's referring to your own conspiracy theory you crackpot
>>542020893I'm pretty sure you're samefagging, but I'll give you a reply just in case. >And besides, if it really is ONLY because of the world map, then how come no one else tried to do that lately? Why would I know the answer to that? I don't. My speculation is that the world map originally exists as a limitation. They couldn't model the entire world, so they modeled an approximation of a world, while actually modeling the dungeons and towns. However, as technology advanced, there was no longer a need to separate the world map from the dungeons and towns, you could just model all of it. See Final Fantasy XV. The last time a world map exists in FF was Type-0, a PSP game, and it existed likely as a limitation. As we progressed passed limitations, we progress passed the world map in JRPGs and switched to "open world">Those other elements you are talking about are not exclusive to nier either, so I don't see why you keep bringing that up, but whatever.This is why I think you might just be samefagging while pretending to be two different people. E33 "feels" more like a Nier game than like a Final Fantasy game. I'm not talking about the surface level comparisons to old FF by virtue of it being a JRPG with a world map, I'm talking about the actual substance of the game feels more Nier than FF. >I guess the correct choice then is to keep paying square enix for trend chasing AAA slop, decent at most retro nostalgia baits (which are actually totally just like old FF and I HAVE to love them for it) and rereleases of their actual good games.More reason for me to think you're samefagging, but maybe you really are a different person. Who knows. I didn't say any of this. The last FF game I bought was XV, which I purchased 5 times, but I'm still disappointed that it wasn't Versus XIII. I'm largely not a video game purchaser anymore at all, unless I pirate some indie game and really like it or buy on sale at a deep discount.
>>542021645You don't even have to say anything bad about SE or FF for him to decide you are the enemy. Like I said, the persecution complex has reached critical with some of these schizos.>>542021707I was questioning his theory, which made him mad and then he just repeated it. I think he might actually be a moron as well as schizo.
>>542021809>I'm still disappointed that it wasn't Versus XIIIthe source of the mental illness reveals itself
Since the 1-3 shitposters seem to be incapable of being anything other than disingenuous, dishonest, insincere, and untruthful, they will not be getting any replies. If they attempted to have a conversation, they could get (You)s, but they are not attempting to have a conversation. They are just bitching, as usual. I guess it really is the same people from this thread who do nothing but bitch about FF and EE in the E33 threads. Small world. I guess we'll have to add "E33 threads" to the list of the places the shitposters could be while /ffg/ is falling to page 10.
>>542022365>theyOkay so you're dropping the theory that it's 1 then. Now it's 2 or 3 shitposters. And one of them hasn't said anything bad about SE or FF but they're also using E33 threads to do exactly that, and you KNOW this is a FACT because you're very smart, not because you're a paranoid schizo with a persecution complex.
I seriously wonder if any other fandom would be fine with the way Square handles this franchise. LIke, if Civilization suddenly became a fighting game series, Street Fighter became a visual novel series and Battlefield became a platformer series, and then their respective companies started releasing watered down "spiritual succesors" of the previous games just so people don't complain about it, would their fans be happy?
>>542022831Oh wait, I forgot, I can't sa-"[THIS USER HAS BEEN BANNED FOR SHITPOSTING, NO NEGATIVE POSTS ALLOWED]
No one here hates Final Fantasy, but we'll keep shitposting about it anyway.
>>542023026I haven't said one bad thing about FF or SE but I want to thank you for proving >>542020338 >>542021529 100% right.
I love Final Fantasy (I-X)!
>>542011226This post really struck a nerve. Wow.
>>542023438>the "honest" anti-shitposter begins his "you struck a nerve" routineHow depressingly predictable.
>>542023438Yup.
I can tell you guys are handling the recent sales milestone about as well as I expected.
>>542026767Sometimes sales are very important. Other times they don't matter at all.
>>542026767>>542026876They never matter when it comes to quality. I'll say it for the millionth time: just because call of duty sells well, that doesn't make it a good game.
>>542026767Hit the nail on the head on this one, I'm afraid.
>>542027167Exactly. Sometimes they are very important, but other times they don't matter at all.
Let’s talk about FINAL FUCKING FANTASY, shall we?
>>542027547I got it for free on PC lol.
>>542027547This feels short-sighted. Why not wait until Part 3 is released to bank on a complete package? I don't think anyone who wasn't already interested in 7R would care about this.
>>542027547I think we'd all rather talk about anything else other than Final Fantasy. Ideally something that we can use to shitpost about Final Fantasy with.
>>542027662They need more instances of being able to double dip sales numbers for the "Remake Trilogy"
>>542027547Ok, sure, what are the best dressphere combinations for the endgame in x-2? I heard the postgame in this is really really hard, but most of the posts I see about it use this strat with catnip and gunner which was seemingly removed in the remaster, so what do I do?
>>542027623Why aren't you supporting Square Enix?!
>>542028873Supporting them to carry on making garbage? Just pirate every product they put out until they make a good one.
>>542028873Too greedy.
>>542029007why are you pirating stuff you dont like? thats like getting a free burger that you didnt want to eat anyway
No one hates Final Fantasy or Square Enix, and no one is shitposting about it.
>>542029182
>>542027167Wish I'd known this when I was using Remakes sales figures as proof it was a great game back then. What a fool I've been.
>>542029180I pirate things so that I can shitpost about them.
>>542031117I did that all the way up to Rebirths release. After that, for some reason, I stopped thinking sales figures were a good way to prove a game was good.
>>542031117Same, but XIV instead of Remake.
>>542029182throw a few more tantrums about e33, maybe that'll cheer you up
>>542031439For me it was SoP. Man, the speed at which I stopped using sales as a measure of a games quality when THAT game came out, phew! It would make your head spin.
>>542031234I pirate things I'm interested in but not necessarily willing to fork up money for, although I try to support any new games I really like and SE as much as I can
>>542031768>i am poor but i refuse to admit itWe get it.
>>542032084I've bought Rebirth twice, XVI twice, Remake twice, SoP, have the entire catalogue of mainline games on Steam....I think I have the right to pirate a spin off or emulate whatever I want
>>542032267My apologies. As long as you do what you can to protect SE shareholders and don't help their competitors.
>>542031532Someone decided that E33 was on-topic for the Final Fantasy General, so E33 posts are allowed here. If you are looking for positive conversations about video games, you are in the wrong thread.
>>542032267:^)
>>542032816>I want to stay mad at you so I've decided you're lyingYou will be miserable your whole life
>>542032949>I want to stay mad at you so I've decided to put words in your mouth
>>542032726Wait...Why shouldn't I buy any other companies games? Try to answer without sounding schizophrenic or false flagging about Final Fantasy VII
>>542032987Is >>542032267 lying?
If pirating a game will allow me to shitpost about that game, I will gladly go out of my way do it. I'll document (screenshot) it as well. Especially if it happens to be a Final Fantasy game, doubly so if the developer I hate is attached to it.
>>542033383god damn just find something else to do already you massive fucking faglordyou MUST be aware of what a whiney bitch you are
>>542033119No I'm not lying and I don't have anything to do with whatever you guys are scuffling about, I'm just stating that If I want to pirate a spin off portable game remaster like Crisis Core or Tactics, I'll do it. I still support the mainline and SE as much as I can. >>542033383If I pirated Tactics for a PS1 emulator, would that piss you off too? Would it make a difference in your world? How about the PSP version? I have that too. How about pirating FFV Pixel Remaster on a handheld whenever I was on a vacation one time? Lol. You've never pirated an FF game?
>>542033641>>542033895I only do what I must to ensure that the correct opinions about Final Fantasy and other games are maintained within /ffg/
>>542034325What's a correct opinion?
>>542034325Finally you're being honest
>>542034532I'll let you know. Stay tuned to the /ffg/ to find out. >>542034645This is very difficult for me to do and perhaps this might be the only moment of lucidity I ever have.
The soul of FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX and FFX is clearly present in Clair Obscur and the entire gaming world knows it
>>542034532see >>542036136
>>542036365Both me.
>>542036136>freelancer writerSo NOT an actual journalist. Why should his voice weights more than anyone else?
E33's success is proof of how much people used to like Final Fantasy
Truer words have never been spoken.
I regret buying XVI even once.
>>542036760and it's working, ff is very jealous
>>542036910>ff is very jealous***Former FF fans (current FF shitposters) are very jealous.
Are there any Final Fantasy games where I can cast Thundaga on a dog?
>>542036910I'm actually extremely calm right now.
>>542037024jealous of what? nobody even likes e33, all the shilling was paid for
>>542027547I know they're going to release 7R bundle eventually but Part 3 isn't even out yet. This is just greedy and desperate, lol. But at least it still sells more than XVI they never found an excuse to re-release that trash.
>>542037270>jealous of what? You'll have to ask them. One of them is right here: >>542036910
>>542037395I would have said E33s success, but we know it wasn't successful at all. Just look at how many anons on /v/ prefer to talk about Scarlet futa than E33. FF is an unstoppable cultural juggernaut. Just look at the MtG sales. I'd like to see E33 match those. But it never will.
>>542038034It is strange how many posts in E33 thread on /v/ are dedicated to shitposting about Square Enix and Final Fantasy.
>>542039031I agree. Personally, as someone who stalks the catalog 24/7 for E33 threads to make sure no one praises the game too much, I really wish its fans would be less insecure.
>>542039031Good thing there are practically no E33 then. They all disappeared when the shill money dried up. Nobody talks about it or likes it.
>>542039157It's weird that you stalk the catalogue 24/7, but I respect it. You must ensure that the correct opinion about Final Fantasy (and other games) are maintained both within /ffg/ and without. We wouldn't want anyone to post the wrong opinion and get away with it, now would we?
>>542039558So, just like XVI?
>>542039615As long as Square's stocks stay healthy, everything's fine by me, really.
Why is everyone so mean to VIIR and other SE products
What the fuck is wrong with you people
>>542039982I keep telling them not to be but here we are.
>>542040000Final Fantasy has the most insecure fanbase in gaming.
>>542039982Nostalgiafaggotry is one hell of a drug, really.
>>542011226This post caused a 5 hour meltdown. Incredible. I wonder how much longer this one is going to last.
>>542040000We'd rather talk about final fantasys reputation and standing in gaming culture than about the games themselves. This is how you KNOW we're still at the top with nothing to prove.Sometimes it might look like a bunch of elderly guys who are delusional about still being number 1 and all the whippersnappers being clueless and everything else being a passing fad... but no, we really are the biggest dicks on campus. Look at our general, everyone else WISHES they had this!
>>542040000The only thing I hate more than people badmouthing SE games are FF fans who like the old FF games. I hate people who hate old FF games more than anything.
>>542040206>>542040469no need to post twice, we heard you the first time
>>542040206You struck a nerve.
>>542039982It ruined FFVII.
>>542040601I know, that's why I doubled down and made the point clearer here >>542040469
None of this would have happened if Luke didn't blindly trust Van Grants and triggered the destruction of Akzeriuth.
I hate nostalgiafaggots who love "the way final fantasy used to be" and XIV and the XVI fanboy. They're the ones stopping /ffg/ from being good. And by good I mean a non stop flow of people agreeing VIIR is kino and that VIIR combat should be the basis of all future FF games. Everything other than this is shitposting.
>>542041589This is unironically my exact position
>>542034532see >>542041589
>>542040875>VIIRfags are tranniesI see, I see, that makes sense...
>Transphobia in our hallsGentlemen...
>>542041589It really is this shrimple
>>542040875Final Fantasy has always been trans.
VIIR’s combat should be the basis for all future Final Fantasy games.
>>542041996>supposedly>potentiallyMan, trannies are so desperate to belong in the natural world that they try to claim straight women. How miserable and pathetic.But it does explain the fatherless' obsession with that cheap slut.
>>542042125When he's right, he's right.
>>542042125I'm here to provide a non stop flow of agreement.
>>542042159Lightning is trans. It's 2025 now, the Remaster will prove it.
>>542042662>it does explain the fatherless' obsession with that cheap slut.
>>542036136What roots?
>>542042125You won't hear otherwise from me. This is what we're here for.
>>542042125Irrefutable, I'm afraid.
>>542042125>>542041589Now this is what /ffg/ is all about!
>>542042125This will make some people angry, but it has to be said.
>>542040000Real answer: of the 10 people who post here, aboit 2 of them seem to genuinely believe /ffg/ is the front lines in the PR war for FFs honour. Nobody gives a fuck what anyone here says. Not even most the people here do. But the way "wrongthink" is shot down and narratives MUST be maintained and the seriousness with which posts here are taken, it's clear someone really believes what is said here matters. Opinions MUST be crushed by "facts"* (*his opinions) and shitposters* (*anyone with a different opinion) MUST be weeded out!The irony is it's just the same 10 people every day and nobody is having their eyes opened. Meanwhile jimbo can do a poll on his socials and get a few thousand people to see it. And even that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things but it does make it funnier to see 10 schizos fighting over nothing at the bottom of a barrel at the bottom of a black hole that literally nobody cares about. And yet the war rages on.
>>542044095and even if they don't say they're angry, we'll know they are
>>542044404
>>542044404>Real answerDid not read. We do not come to /ffg/ for "real answers", we come here to ensure that the correct opinion about Final Fantasy (and other games) is maintained within /ffg/ and without. You can see this action at work on a daily basis here. If you don't like it, you can leave.
>>542044404Well said, damn
>>542044404Prepare for dismissive responses but no actual refuted points
>>542044973Don't worry, I know how it works. This guy >>542044678 wouldn't know how to articulate his thoughts even if offered a million dollars for them. Maybe, just maybe, he could express it in a passive aggressive falseflag, but not with his own opinion.
>>542045127>Nobody gives a fuck what anyone here saysYou've already said my thoughts exactly, champ.
>>542045127>but not with his own opinion.There is no one with "their own" opinion here, dumbass. You either have the correct opinion or you have the incorrect opinion, and too many people have incorrect opinions here. That's why I spend hours every day working to correct this problem. If Square Enix wont make Final Fantasy great again, then I will.
>>542045232Hey, if you're agreeing with me, great. Odd gif choice to express it but thanks!
>>542045405Oh, when you posted >>542041589 you weren't kidding. You actually do hate anyone who likes old ff games.
Something something persecution complexSomething something paranoid schizophrenic
>>542045514If you have the wrong opinion, then you can leave. This thread isn't for you.
>>542040000All those schizophrenic answers to my question pretending that they aren't the problem...not an ounce of Final Fantasy to be seen.
>>542046603The important thing to a harmonious /ffg/ is that we all agree and that no one has the wrong opinion. People with wrong opinions don't belong here, or anywhere for that matter. Maybe they can go back to plebbit.
I can tell someone is definitely very calm right now.
Post your wrong FF opinions
>>542047252FFXIII is definitely above average and not a miserable failure.
>>542044404The real the front lines is reddit sub where they refuse to listen to the public's honest opinion on FF.
>>542047367This is part of the /ffg/ narrative of correct opinions. Are you shitposting right now? Are you trying to say that an officially approved /ffg/ correct opinion is a wrong one?
>>542047367You made someone very, very angry.
Claire's Remaster will save the franchise.
/ffg/ narrative of correct opinionsFinal Fantasy XVI is the best one, it successfully reached new audiences. The definitive modern entry and fastest selling PS5 exclusiveFinal Fantasy XV was a flop, killed the series.Final Fantasy XIV is worth the endless time and money. Dawntrail is underrated; Wuk Lamat did nothing wrongFinal Fantasy XIII is pure shit, the worst RPG games ever made, no I never played themFinal Fantasy VII Remake is woke and Nomura shot me in the back, Kingdom Hearts slop. They killed FFVII.The only FF games outside CS3 that anyone here should care about are spinoffs and gacha games on your phone, playing those is what makes you a true fan
>>542049096Lightning ("Claire" is her dead name)'s Remaster will save Final Fantasy and she will become a fragrant muse and icon for trans rights both at home (Japan) and abroad.
>>542047252see >>542049214
>>542049448Both me!
>>542049214>Wuk Lamat did nothing wrongUnironically yes.
>>542049518Then thank you for samefagging and providing the guidelines for wrong opinions on the /ffg/ that we must combat. However, next time you should reply to your own post if you are going to answer your own post.
>>542049286>>542049592
>>542049927Rentfree.
>>542049927Sorry, I don't have wrong opinions.
>>542049927kek
>>542049927EXTREMELY funny.
>>542047252FFIV is good.
Do you believe Nintendo can revive the series?
>>542049096The Light of her return will burn and smolder this thread to ashes, and the sinning non-believers will be cast out into the Chaos. In her name, we must pray....
>>542050798It's important to remember that sometimes sales matter a lot, and sometimes they don't matter at all.
>>542050798Bing bing wahoo toy box game design can and will save Final Fantasy
>>542051109thats a dude.
>>542051109Lightning owes me sex
>>542050798Final Fantasy was born from Nintendo. It's only natural for children to come home after they reach adulthood. The fake Final Fantasy can stay with Playstation, nobody cares
Final Fantasy VII was always Kingdom Hearts.
>>542052841>It's only natural for children to come home after they reach adulthood. The fake Final Fantasy can stay with Playstation, nobody cares>"Final Fantasy VII isn't Final Fantasy"Get out of this thread with your wrong opinion, right now.
>>542052841The funniest part of all of it is how FFVIIR is the AAA mainline "return to Nintendo" title. It's pottery.
>>542053378Nobody said anything about VII, why do you sound so mad, bro?
>>542053753Final Fantasy VII is not a fake Playstation Final Fantasy. That is a wrong opinion for the /ffg/, and you need to take it back where it belongs.
>>542054074You might want to go back to grade school and learn how to read. I don't see any mention of VII in the original post.
>>542054546>The fake Final Fantasy can stay with Playstation, nobody caresFinal Fantasy VII was the first Playstation Final Fantasy. Happy to educate you, now please adjust your opinion to the correct opinion or leave this thread.
>>542050798Considering Nintendo's newest console can barely run PS4 titles, no.
>>542054725Whatever you say, bro. No need to sound so triggered.
>>542021638XVI technically has them but they don't really do anything besides make it so bosses require slightly fewer cooldown flowchart rotations
The fake 'final fantasy' is the one that doesn't have cactuars in it, FF1-3 don't countGet a hint?
>>542055986As long as you have allowed yourself to be educated on what the correct opinion here is, we shouldn't have a problem.
>>542050798If they play their cards right I believe we might see a turnaround.Otherwise I'm afraid we will lose to Dragon Quest.
>Top 10 Best PS5 Physical Launch Week Sales in Japan!once again FFXVI winning bigly
>>542055986I know the correct opinion is that everything related to XVI is bad, but I'm unsure of what the correct opinion regarding Tactics is. Before the Ivalice Chronicles came out, I believe the correct opinion was that it was good, but now that Ivalice Chronicles is out, /ffg/'s narrative on it seems to be split.
>>542057630FFT never felt like a FF game. It's Tactics Ogre with a FF skin. That doesn't mean it's a bad game by any means, and no one here shit on the game itself.
>>542058210I'll have to monitor our opinion in the next few weeks. A very important key player in the /ffg/ should finish his playthrough soon, and then we'll have a better idea of where /ffg/ stands on Tactics in a post-IC world.
Play Lightning Returns. There are cactuars.
>>542058367>A very important key player in the /ffg/Anon-senpai.....y-you don't really mean that do you?
I'm trying to use AI to educate myself on the correct opinions to have on the /ffg/, but it seems to be doing a meta shitpost as an answer to my question. I guess AI is not yet advanced enough to correctly participate in /ffg/ discussion.
Naruhodo
Correct opinion: Final Fantasy is going to be just fine
>>542059862>but it seems to be doing a meta shitpost as an answer to my question.Damn, he might as well already be a regular here.
>>542059216Based
>>542060806He seems to be harboring some opinions which are very dangerous to the fabric of /ffg/. AI was a mistake.
>>542061635Every argument in this thread, and every single instance of namefaggotry or other such behavior, is derived from the eternal of those who have correct opinions and belong here vs those who have incorrect opinions and should go back to Twitter or Reddit or Discord or Bluesky.
>>542063062>those who have incorrect opinions and should go back to Twitter or Reddit or Discord or BlueskyIndeed, but enough about the fatherless loser.
The world is not black and white
What set off the sane and unbiased Yoshitroon this time?
>>542041589weird to see someone here being this honest
>>542063172Correct, but /ffg/ is. There is no Red magic here, only Black (wrong) and White (right).
>>542021529Personally, I think it's this post that set him off
>>542011226It's crazy to think that 9 hours later, we are still melting down about this one post.
>at the point in ch 4 where it's just endless grinding for job and skill unlocks>enemy summoner, nice>crystallizes, nice>ready to save some sweet JP on ramza>fucking last enemy nigger i debuffed down to 1 speed wakes up, flies to the crystal>even turns ramza to stone just to spite me>walk over and kill it with nearly 500 damage from someone who had used focus dozens of timesfuck you piece of shit
>>542063956Everything I love most about FFVIII is in Galbadia. GOATed continent.
>>542064273he still thinks everyone is mad at him for his schizo conspiracy theory about E33. like his truthbomb made us all mad because of how true it is. when the reality is he's just been having a tantrum all day about imagined enemies and threw in some shit about E33 in the middle. he won't try make it make sense. are we all the paid E33 shills? and if not, why would his post make us mad?no, it doesn't make sense, and no he won't explain, but he will continue to insist his delusion is true.
>>542064430>>542011226This has the potential to become a multi-day melt. We are still going strong.
>>5420652279 hours of different anons agreeing that post is making people mad even though nobody is talking about it, and none of these anons can explain why they think anyone is mad at that post. Just keep repeating it bro
>>542066130If you disagree with us, then you're the mad one!
9 hours ago I said E33 had paid shills and everyone is angry about me saying that. They're going to be angry about me saying it for days because they're paid E33 shills and I called them out.None of the responses to my expose made me mad by the way, I just want to remind everyone as many times as possible that my E33 shills expose made everyone mad. I'll remind you all many many many more times.
>>542064897>muh paid E33 shillsTruly bizarre...The weirdest part of that cope is that it blatantly denies everyone who discussed the game passionately their own agency. It's not just conspiratorial thinking, it's downright insidious schizophrenia. We were all PAID to say positive things about the game on /v/...kekPeople played the game for themselves because they were deeply interested in the premise and genre (me/you) or were recommended the game by a friend or from a YT video. People were blown away by all the little things that the game does right, and everyone all came together to talk about the game naturally and instinctively. Grassroot support for a mid tier indie title that has some solid English VA names attached but very little marketing outside of announcement trailers that every single game gets. It's sold millions far quicker than anyone expected, and there's no looking back. It represents a singular and potentially massive shift in the industry away from bloated production, that everyone can get behind. Bitter, old, balding freaks for some reason are obsessed with the idea that the game is astro turfed. Maybe because then they can dismiss the game, studio and everyone who talks about it outright. All in order to feign superiority?
>>542066414>everyone is angry about me saying thatLiterally wrong. Only I cared enough to answer you, and it was only to call you a conspiracy theorist because you had no proof.You still don't have any by the way, all you did was seething and malding in a most embarrassing way.
>>542066478By the same "logic" we can declare anyone who spoke positively about Rebirth in the first two weeks was a paid shill. Why not? Makes just as much sense.
>>542066808Everyone who ever posted anything positively on /v/ about FFXVI and FFXIV was a paid shill. I've as much proof to back up this statement as anyone else has regarding Clair Obscur
>>542066478You have to admit lots of people suddenly talking about a game that is selling millions of copies just doesn't make sense
E33 shills are melting down and saying my post doesn't make any sense again...
>>542067184You would think that a JRPG flavored grimdark and melancholy game with busted character building and cute girls would be popular on /v/But I swear, it's viral marketing. It's the Indians, it's the Chinese. It's SEA. It's anyone, anything except for White males/Final Fantasy enjoyers.
>>542067113Wow, you made everyone mad for 51465146541651 hours.
>>542067113Either that or they're underage, that would explain why they enjoy playing trash games.
>>542067386I have been known to cause someone to copy paste something innocuous that I said months ago word for word because it stuck with them that badly. So that's not that far from the truth
>>542067689Stop calling out the Lightningfag, or you'll make xim mad.
>>542067743Probably a paid E33 shill. Actually it definitely was, no doubt at all.
>>542067689For some reason, someone thought this post had something to do with their boogie man. Sad!>>542068202Strange things are happening around these parts....gotta be Yoshills
>>542067863Too late, it's angry!
Paid E33 shills are not taking my expose of their crimes very well. The irrefutable nature of the evidence is making them melt down.
>>542068814Yeah, it's seething! How cringe!
>>542069073Wow, you made everyone mad for over 9000 days and nights.
>>542032084The post that angered the fatherless Lightningfag for the eternity.
>>541908516>As long as no one makes any negative or neutral remarks about Nomura, Kitase, Hamaguchi, Toriyama, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning, Remake, Tactics, or E33 we will be fine....in the end, we weren't fine.
Let's all settle down and get back to talking about the 10/10 FINAL FANTASY TACTICS
>>542070956The verdict is still out on whether or not Tactics is an approved and appreciated /ffg/ talking point or what the correct opinion is to have about it.
>>542070956argath is a cunt
>muh paid E33 shills!!1!!Someone is really insecure
>>542071409Yes, but enough about the fatherless Lightningfag.
>>542071409No one has been mad for 10 hours about this post.
you people are friendless loser weirdos man
>>542073305That is the true essence of Final Fantasy
>>542070956>>542071107Call him a cunt all you like, milksop.Whilst you seethe and sup on broth of bean,Argath is perfecting his sick burns for baseborn whelps like Delita and (you)
>>542063956I hope VIII Remake gives us more Centra lore. I really enjoyed the expanded Gi Tribe lore in VII Rebirth.
Tips for fft?Never played before
>>542078712Save often on several slots. Depending from zodiac signs, people can take a lot of damage from different elements.Grind a lot.Don't feel obligated to keep party members that have average bravery/faith.
>>542078945What is average brave and faith? 50?
>>542079295Yeah. If it goes under 20 or over 80, you risk the guy leaving, but extreme values have interesting effects. You'd have to ask someone who played the game a lot more than I did, though.
>>542078712Equip your skillsGet Auto-Potion from Chemist asapSwitch Jobs every so often to grind for JP but don't bother JP farming through story missions you can always stop to grind
I played WotV. I don't need any tips for Tactics.
>>542078712Drop Matsuno slop and play Yoshida kino instead.
>>542078945>>542079415Didnt know this game had necessary grindingShould I grab the jp boost skill on everybody first then I guess?
how many party members can you recruit in Tactics? I know Ramza plus four other characters can be on the field at a time.
>>542080524I would keep JP boost on everyone for a while.Swap it out when you have something better like Dual Wield. You don't technically have to grind at all but mastering the Jobs is the fun of Tactics because you can mix and match so many different abilities.
how many party members can you recruit in FFXVI?
>>542081226Just like the quintessential FFV
>>542080698disregard that, I found the answer. anyways should i look at tier lists?
>>542080284This is a wrong opinion.
>>542080524>Didnt know this game had necessary grindingIt does. Some fight can be really hard.Also, I'm not 100% sure, but I think random encounter scale with you. Story fights don't, so if Gaffgarion or Agrias are wrecking your ass, grind.
>>542082185You know what? I have to agree.
>>542078712Auto Potion + X-Potion x99 = easy game
Dead franchise.
>Am I still a Final Fantasy fan if I played both 7Remake and 7Rebirth for the first time last year, absolutely adored them, but have no interest in ever playing the rest of the games?The only game I'm kinda interested in is FF16 but every single person I've spoken to says it was a Shenmue 3 level disappointment
FF17 is never coming out, and if it does it will be worse than FF16. Square will experience what it's like to have a delayed flop.
>>542087773Play the original Final Fantasy VII
>>542087773>Remake/Rebirth interesting ideas but mediocre. feels like playing a budget DMC>XVhorrible but retarded people like it>Tactics if you like the job system 20% of the game is fun and 80% is extremely boring>XIIIthe worst game design decisions ive ever seen. its honestly incredible how bad it is>XIVgameplay is the only reason to play it. story is somehow worse than all the others
>>542088232>horrible but retarded people like itThis, but for every game. Not a single good one in the entire bunch. People only think they were good because they played them as children
>>542088504I never played FFVII as a kid. It's 10/10.
>>542088232Are we still playing the wrong opinions game?
>SE finally announced the FFVII and FFVIII twinpack and FFIX for physical releases in North America>when they could have done this since 2018 or later.
Real FF fans are eating good
this appears to be the shitposting thread, but has anyone tried the struggle for freedom modshould have looked around at mods before I started replaying 12, looks kinda neat but I'm way too far in by now to start over on a whim
>>542087773>>Am I still a Final Fantasy fan if I played both 7Remake and 7Rebirth for the first time last year, absolutely adored them, but have no interest in ever playing the rest of the games?You might be the biggest Final Fantasy fan of all. As long as you have already decided that Part 3 is GotY all years and that anyone who says otherwise is a shitposting doomer, you'll fit right in here.
>>542092058Didn't release these already?
>>542095830for asian countries
>>542092058>buy digitally half a decade ago for switch)>could have imported, but nah >this happensI swear Square doesn't have a brain soemtimes. we had physicals for FFXII and FFX (well X-2 is download only unlike JP).
>>542097905huh
>>542101119why didn't they release physicals beforehand if southeast asian countries had them?
>>542101753Shut up retard
>>541999702SD3 is goated, Trials remake does a good job.Visions is a solid 7/10. Shame bout the whole situation with its release.
>>541999702>>542109141Not final fantasy
>>542109214See >>541998939
>>541998939>>542002438True. E33 doesn't feel like Final Fantasy at all. Though it is a turn-based RPG with a world map, so people who think that Final Fantasy owns those things (because they haven't played very many games or JRPGs other than Final Fantasy) might think that it feels like Final Fantasy even though it doesn't.
As Final Fantasy fan I still think of it as the best JRPG series.
Friend asked me which FF games were the best. I told him XII is amongst the worst and he couldn't believe it and thought it was one of the most well recieved. Cringe.When did this zoomer whitewashing of XII happen? It was also detested around launch and the few years following it.
>>542101753Can't you just be happy that shareholders will see increased share value once the physical editions of FFVII, VIII and IX come to switch in more regions? You don't have to shitpost all final fantasy news all the time.
>>542110482Atlus games are pure slop, and most other series die out. I can see why people would prefer the Trails series, but FF is also my favourite.
>>542110496I don't remember it ever being "detested", but it was the first real departure from what people traditionally knew to be Final Fantasy. I thought it was meh on release, but I like it more than I used to now. This has happened with a few games for me, including VIII, which I also thought was meh on release but I appreciate more now.
Years from now, when FFXVII isn't turn based, all this will have been worth it
>>542110590XII and VIII are both shit
>>542110482Of still-standing JRPG series, Final Fantasy is still the king. Unless you want to count Pokemon, I guess. Though if Persona 6 is as much of a cultural phenomenon and inspiration to the gaming medium that Persona 5 was, then Persona could perhaps begin giving FF a run for its money. I wish Capcom would make another Breath of Fire game.
>>542110567Tranime art = not buying
>>542110643If it isn't turn based it will be the last entry into the series
>>542110874>he genuinely believes this
>E33 is turn based>sells 17x more than XVI and Reshitetelling
>>542110782Not like you buy anything to begin with, poorfag.
>>542111437Personally I find it very funny that even a digimon game of all things is making a mockery of final fantasy. Methinks the claims of turn based being sales poison were premature.
>>542111437>>542111864These are both the types of correct opinions that /ffg/ is all about. Keep em coming, boys.
>>542110770What does P5 do beside being animeshit? All Fatlus games look and play the same.
XVII will be as revolutionizing to the series as VII was.
>>542112336I wont engage with disingenuous posters, sorry. All you need to know is that it revolutionized the gaming medium via its menu and UI. You can see this evidence even in the current hot topic if /ffg/, Expedition 33.
>>542113096You call this a UI?I call this schizophrenia.
>>542114947>I wont engage with disingenuous posters, sorry.
>>542114947If you think that's bad, wait until you see Metaphors. What an absolute eyesore that entire game is.
>>542079725I would love a FFT remake with 3D models like WotV's
I would love a FF with turn based combat kino
XVII will be the true merging of X and VII
>>542111437Someone saw this and somehow felt attacked. Why?
Never played Tactics. Remaster or original?
>>542121241Someone did? Can you link me to the /v/ thread where that happened?>>542121428Remaster, duh.
Is Tifa's game safe?
>>542049096>>542051109>>542053623>>542060765Jesus fucking Christ she's built like a truck SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXSEX!
>>542123905She's sturdy.
>mfw an autist makes a 7 hour full game Ivalice Chronicles guide video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR41rRE1baw
>>542128304>2025>big, fit, solidly and healthy built girls with hips wider than the diameter of planet Earth cosplay as LightningYes, it's all decided. She will return. It's inevitable.
>>542121241Where?
>>542121241It appears you struck a nerve. Be careful.
Posts don't need to actually exist in order to feel threatened by them.
Never ask me to make sense of my accusations. They are simply true. Just ask the guy who always shows up at the perfect time to agree my accusation is accurate and who also doesn't explain.
>>542135306So did you. Unfortunately, it means he's going to be talking to himself for the next 7-8 hours now.
Goddess.And her very intelligent sister.
>>542136273In fact, merely questioning my accusations only causes them to become more true. That's what makes baseless and evidenceless accusations so powerful.
accusations shmaccusationsthreatened shmeatenedstruck a nerve shmruck shma shmerveattacked shmattackedWhere's Vanille, goblins?
>>542137508>Where's VanilleNow this is a question all of us (should) be capable of getting behind
I did not care for Vanille.
>>542140909Hey now, you can't say that, you'll trigger the fatherless.
>>542111437Reminder that turn based games don't sell anymore. Nobody buys them.
>>542146094Obsessed...
>>542146094I feel sorry for the people who made that new turn based digimon game. I'm going to check the steam numbers right now to confirm that it has sold 0 copies like every other turn based game.
Another day, the same rehashed shitposts to keep the thread alive.
>>542147962The Yoshidahater has nothing left in his life, please understand.
>>542148041Maybe he wouldn't get so much hate if XVI wasn't so trash.
>>542148041You made him upset. If he wasn't still upset from yesterday (he is) then this alone would make him continue to melt down all day (again)
XVI was life changing for me. It made my life better. But I also forgot about it once BG3 came along.
>>542147962All the paid E33 shills ITT should make a /e33/ general instead of bumping our general. Why do they do it?>>542151380Billions felt similarly.
>>542152075>All the paid E33 shills ITT should make a /e33/ general instead of bumping our general.They definitely should. That way they can finally move on.
Square Enix decided to let (You) decide what third party develops the next Dissidia game, who do you choose?
If you don't like /ffg/, why do you come here?
>>542154093Can you imagine what would happen if I wasn't here to complain about others shitposting final fantasy? I hate it here, and everyone here, but what I do is important. My dream is for /ffg/ to never be bumped again so it can just die and I could finally stop worrying about final fantasy being shitposted
>>542153471Arc System Works for Dissidia fighting gameKoei Tecmo/Team Ninja for Dissidia action RPG
>>542152075>All the paid E33 shills ITT should make a /e33/ general instead of bumping our general.We have a XIV general yet people here refuse to use it.
Final Fantasy is in the same category as The Simpsons, where by this point it’s been bad for far longer than it was ever good.
My biggest gripe with XVI was actually the combat itself. I hate how the cooldowns even existed. I wanted to just style and combo on enemies freely, but anytime I felt the urge I had to basically slow myself down thanks to the ability cooldowns. Abilities and your moveset should have been two separate things.
>>542161774The major reason I dislike FFXVI is because I believe it's a cheap slap in the face. After reading ASOIAF, it's a gutless, no balls narrative which thinks sex and swearing means mature while they don't have the balls to make Joshua die by Clive's hand and fumbles world building so bad the setting is more like Medieval Naruto than Westeros. The gameplay is a shoddy derivative of Devil May Cry missing many basic features that have been there since DMC1 and many of thrse features have been in past FF titles. This is where it goes from meh to insulting.The Yohipiss cultists will just ignore my post as usual because everything I said is legitimate criticism. Therefore, they won't have any counter argument to defend their garbage game.
You guys are still crying about the 10/10 FFXVI? I've been too busy playing the 10/10 FF Tactics to check in.
>>542177704The 10/10 FFXVI made me gay.
>>542154093>>542154489Some people insist upon having wrong opinions. What can you do? That's why we're here for 18 hours per day, to set the record straight. No wrong opinions shall be permitted about Final Fantasy or other video games, within or without /ffg/ as long as still draw breath.
>>542177704>>542177790Many such cases, I'm afraid.
>>542110482But of course.
>>542148041You struck a nerve.
>>542177790>The 10/10 FFXVI made me gay.These are the only posts saying that FFXVI is 10/10 which have never been attacked on /ffg/. I can only assume that the normally incorrect opinion (that XVI is 10/10) which will cause hours long meltdowns under normal circumstances is somehow the correct opinion to have as long as you also state that you are homosexual. It's strange to think that there are incorrect opinions on /ffg/ which then become correct opinions under certain conditions, but /ffg/ is a very complex and multi-layered thread, and Final Fantasy is a very complex and multi-layered series, so it was bound to happen at some point. I'll have to keep a close eye out for other incorrect opinions which become correct only under certain conditions.
>>542161774>>542167640As someone who has made a lot of complaints about XVI, I will once again reiterate that I still think the basis of the combat design was objectively good quality. But it's been handicapped very badly through the MMO design sludge, lack of RPG elements and absolutely zero unique use-cases almost anywhere in the game. You can just use any moves to defeat any enemy. Clive doesn't have enough kit variety all by himself to keep this mash fest fun, wailing on monsters endlessly with one character. No practical magic that works on some enemies and doesn't work on others, no party commands, no team up attacks, no sequences. XVI also had a really good, precise control scheme. The base kit technically allows you to execute 75% of anything you'd really want to in a traditional hack and slash game, barring some damn combos. When you have your abilities decked out and you are in the flow, the game can be very good fun.The problem is and always will be the lack of variety. MMO cooldown spam on health sponge boss enemies that you can't juggle or interact with. Total lack of enemy variety, lack of encounter variety, and lack of mechanical variety. You have one weapon. You have one combo. There are no other controllable characters. You've likely had enough of playing this Clive experiment by hour 20, but you can easily spend around 70 hours to do everything in the game. This compounds every little gameplay problem to become worse than they really are in isolation. Bad design like a shell over the top of a good design.If they had just designed multiple characters based on FF Jobs, like Samurai for Cid, Dragoon for Dion, Red Mage for Joshua, etc, and used ATB, the game could have easily become a 10/10 classic. Even with story flaws and general blandness intact. It would have been a Final Fantasy game. Experimenting with the characters and outfitting them with unique Commands and equipment is the true meat of Final Fantasy gameplay, not the "combat".
>>54212124112 hours later, someone is still melting down about this.
>>542185950Big if true
>>542065227>This has the potential to become a multi-day melt.It did, in fact, become a multi-day melt. Powerful. The only question now is how many days it's going to last. It might become permanent.
>>542185950You riled him up. Hopefully he doesn't spend his entire night trying to prove how unaffected he is by this, I fear it's taking a toll on his mental health.
Where's the Final Fantasy?
>>542186712E33 is the real Final Fantasy.
>>542186810Many people felt similarly, hence its long term commercial success.
>>542186712Needs rape
E33 is The True Final Fantasy XVI.
>>542186810>>542186929When was the last time there was a Blue Mage in the mainline outside the MMO's? X-2?
>>542186810>>542186929>>542187305I love these objectively correct opinions about Final Fantasy that we espouse for hours on a daily basis. I'm glad that everyone here can agree on what is objectively true and what is objectively false. We don't dedicate our lives to this for nothing.
>>542187338XIV.
>>542187338>X-2The Quintessential Final Fantasy, also known as FFV, but better.
>>542185950It's impressive, really. I'm not even sure what makes him so upset.
>>542187615If having some banter on the internet about Final Fantasy is what they dedicate their lives to, and that's a bad thing, then what are you dedicating your life to by "calling them out"
>>542187870>and that's a bad thingYou somehow misunderstand. I am agreeing and being supportive.
>>542187870Unfortunately, it seems we won't get an answer anytime soon.
>>542187762Needs a very violent anal rape that leaves her gasping and panting, but happy.
>>542187762>The Quintessential Final Fantasy, also known as FFVCorrect.
>>542187305This
>>542187736>outside the MMO'sThanks for trying>>542187762Yuna....my first vidya waifu. I couldn't take my eyes off this cutscene. I must have been maybe 8 years old. I think she activated my love for short hair women>>542188082But anon, you're being disingenuous right now. That's called false flagging. I think you must do it as a paper thin cover for your unstable emotional state, because every single day you are here crying about 1-3 shitposters who are ruining your thread. But you never seem to post any Final Fantasy like a normal human beingWhat's going on, buddy? Who was your first FF crush? Post her>>542188151I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he just doesn't know yet that it's not supposed to be super serious business online 24/7. Maybe he needs to "go back" as it were
Yoshida has never made a good game.
>>542189905Sad but true
Yoshida has never made a game.Yoshida has never drawn a piece of art either.
>>542190083Not a genius
>>542189905So much this
What have Yoshida's ideas actually been so far? I don't really know that much about his contributions directly except>cloned World of Warcraft to court their audience and fill it with FF memberberries to keep the lifelong fans on a financial leash>cloned DMC, nu God of War, GoT and Naruto but removed the RPG>"The combination of realism with the very unreal sense of turn-based commands doesn't really fit together">"I mean, if you have a character holding a gun, why can't you just press the button to have the gunfire — why do you need a command in there?"
Damn, Yoshida is so strong that he lives rentfree in a lot of shitposters' heads.
>>542191384>"I mean, if you have a character holding a gun, why can't you just press the button to have the gunfire — why do you need a command in there?"Its amazing how much E33 repeatedly makes him look like a fool.
>>542188887>But anon, you're being disingenuous right now. That's called false flagging.I am doing no such thing. I am simply commenting on the correct opinions I have come to know and love on the /ffg/. I'm sorry that seeing opinions you agree with seemingly angers you. I assure you this is not the intention. >>542189905>>542190083>>542190434>>542190460>>542191384>>542191595Like this. This is what /ffg/ is all about. These correct opinions are my own as well. This is why we all come here. To agree with each other about correct opinions regarding Final Fantasy as well as certain other video games. Sometimes our work might even take us outside of /ffg/, which is understandable to a cause as noble as ours. Keep the correct opinions flowing.
I like Yoshida's games.
>>542188151Oddly prophetic post.
>>542191768>I'm sorry that seeing opinions you agree with seemingly angers youWhat opinion did I express that aligns with you? Point it out and let's discuss it. I asked you about your first FF crush, and instead, you went on yet another off topic tangent....
>>542191902If only Yoshitroon would post FF girls he likes and take that XIV branded buttplug out of his ass, this thread would be a much better place
>>542191768Uh oh yoshimeltt
>>542191547Not seeing a lot of ideas from Yoshida being posted by you despite you leaping reflexively.Did he write a story or a character's story? Did he write song lyrics or did he direct the cinematography of iconic scenes? I'm legitimately asking if you have any information that I don't have.
>>542192620>reddit spacing
>>542191862Unfortunately, this is an unauthorized opinion. You must either reveal that you are homosexual, or you must change your opinion. Or you can leave /ffg/. These are your options. >>542191908>What opinion did I express that aligns with you?Presumably one of the posts linked in this post: >>542187615 but you seem upset about it. >I asked you about your first FF crush, and instead, you went on yet another off topic tangent....How is talking about Final Fantasy opinions off-topic? Why does it anger you that I agree with the correct opinions of /ffg/? Are you false flagging for some reason? Do you actually harbor some wrong opinions yourself? It doesn't seem like that's the case to me. Once again, I am sorry for whatever misunderstanding you are having. >>542192551Why are so many people all misunderstanding at the same time? It seems strange to me that this would be the case.
>>542191862I'm gay btw
>>542192620Interestingly, I have a feeling we're not going to get an answer to this one either.
>>542191862>>542192924Thank you. This is now a correct opinion. We may not agree with or understand you, but we support you.
Hmmm quite particular yes. Yoshida is being made fun of and I see that happening.This is happening and it's quite peculiar indeed. Yoshida is making people upset unfortunately.I am very smart.
>>542192715>Presumably>I didn't write a single post he linked to>STILL won't even post an image of an FF girlToo bad, so sad. How unsightly. I asked for one FF opinion, and I can't even get one.>>542193005What does Yoshida produce?
>>542193010>but we support youThis. XVI fans, you are valid!
>>542193159>>Presumably>>I didn't write a single post he linked toI'm still trying to figure out why you're upset. You replied to my with an upset sounding post, and your upset post was in response to my post here >>542187615 so I assumed that one of these posts would have been yours. Apparently not. I'm just having a really difficult time understand the miscommunication here. Could you help me understand?>>STILL won't even post an image of an FF girlYou are being exceedingly hostile, which I can only assume is because you disagree with the correct opinions of /ffg/. I have only seen one incorrect opinion recently, and he corrected himself and turned it into a correct opinion. Things seem like they are proceeding smoothly to me. If you disagree, perhaps you can point out where the wrong opinions are happening and we can all work together to stamp them out as we usually do. Here is an image of Tifa. Please stop being upset or please explain why you are upset. Maybe we can work this out.
>>542192924>>542193214The only person in the entire world I've ever seen wearing FFXVI merchandise was a fat gay dude
>>542193710Me on the right.
XVI is the most hetero FF
FF16 feels like bad fanfiction
The most discussed Final Fantasy on /ffg/just keeps winning it seems
>>542193710The odor in that room represents the quality of xvi
>>542193550>y-you're upsetI asked the thread "where's the Final Fantasy?", I asked you to share your FF opinion regarding who was the first girl you liked, I asked you "what opinion do we agree on?", and at every step of the way you have been doing a gymnastics routine typing up a storm. Just post Final Fantasy dude. Take your own correct opinions, and type that out instead>>542194129Remember the XVI Logos book podcast thing I shared here? >>541997305Yeah during that video the VA for Dion was being extremely gay and the writer Koji Fox was playing up Dion's queer factor and some other gay guy started shipping Joshua with Dion live in front of the camera. The character who is a little boy on the cover art.XVI is the gayest FF of all time
>>542194307Thank you for sharing this, I feel much safer now.
>>542194498If there is anyone here who is dedicating their lives to policing correct opinions....you know it's gotta be a Yoshitroon
>>542194498You angered the fatherless.
>>542194307>crowds of people laugh at you>for years>heh, "the most discussed"
Could Ivalice's map have east at the top? The Order of the Northern Sky was led by House Beoulve in the far left side of the map, while the Order of the Southern Sky is later under Duke Goltanna who is from Zeltennia, which is in Ivalice's far right side. Has anyone else ever noticed this? People used to make speculative composite maps of Tactics Ivalice, XII Ivalice and Tactics A2 Ivalice based on them all having an Ordalia, but they never made much sense imo. I think reorienting Tactics Ivalice to be in the north (or northwest, more accurately) of XII's and Tactics A2's Ivalices might work.Does anyone playing Tactics TIC know if there are any other mentions of cardinal directions in the game?I drew a map of Tactics Ivalice recently and I might try out making a composite of all three settings if this makes sense to anyone else.
>>542195963Many medieval and ancient maps in the real world did put east at the top. You might be onto something.
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Tactic Ogre or FFT?
>>542196734Both are the same.
>>542196734FE:GotHW
>>542196841No, tactic ogre has crossbows that are direct fire while bows are indirect. FFT has Argath and I can't stand him.
>>542194307XVI is the most discussed FF on /ffg/ in the same way Mass Effect 3's ending provoked the biggest fan reaction in the medium's history. It was NOT for any positive reasons.
>>542194461>I asked the thread "where's the Final Fantasy?", I asked you to share your FF opinion regarding who was the first girl you liked, I asked you "what opinion do we agree on?"You seem to still be having some sort of misunderstanding. You replied to me seemingly upset about the correct opinions shared within the /ffg/. I assumed that you were one of the people I replied to praising their opinion. Apparently you were not. If you were not any of the people I replied to, how can I know what opinions we agree on? I am attempting to answer your questions, but you keep being upset. Please just post correct Final Fantasy opinions and continue to squash incorrect ones. That is why we come here, and that is what /ffg/ is all about.
>>542197523When it's all said and done, Mass Effect 3 is still better than XVI.
>>542197764How about....post what you think, and keep the character limit low when it's off topic
>>542197794Yet another correct opinion which I agree with. I'm glad we have cultivated a safe space within the /ffg/ where we can all agree with each other about the correct opinions people are able to have about Final Fantasy and other games. Hopefully we can continue to agree with each other for many more hours today, and many more years in the future. It is refreshing to be surrounded by like minded individuals. >>542197906I am posting my opinion about Final Fantasy. If you are upset because you have wrong opinions, then you can leave and find somewhere else. Maybe Reddit is more your speed.
>>542197794At least ME3 had SOME RPG elements, even if they were dumbed down from its predecessors.
>>542196734>>542196734>>542196734>>542196734>>542196734So?
>>542198436I think the verdict is still out on what the correct opinion is. We might know within the next week or two. Maybe check back then while the minds of /ffg/ evaluate FFT under the new Ivalice Chronicles lens. We should know soon enough.
>>542198253Lots of people still enjoyed Mass Effect 3 up until that ending. It was the ending that got people so worked up, not the comic book writing or MacGuffin + MacGuffin = Reaper Button or red choice vs blue choice>>542198436This is /ffg/. If you want to buy Tactics, buy Final Fantasy Tactics. The new version is good
>>542198613Isn't Tactic Ogre Final Fantasy too? I was under the impression it took place in Ivalice.
>>542198837It's not Final Fantasy, but it's spiritually the same as FFT is a fork of Tactics Ogre anyways. Same with Bravely Default, Chrono, Octopath, and Expedition 33
>>542198837Tactics Ogre is its own IP. There are some similarities to Tactics because it inspired Tacrics in many ways, but its not actually Final Fantasy-related,
>>542198935>>542198963Weird. How come one of TO's baddies made it to FFXIV? I thought FFXIV only referred to FF games.Does that mean I can eventually hope to get a Vagrant Story reference in XIV? I fucking love that game but I heard it was only later in developped retconned to be in Ivalice.
>>542199414I think if you want to talk about XIV you should go to /xivg/. We don't do that here, unless you want to start saying something negative about it. Your comment seems either neutral or positive, and it's related to XIV, and that's a wrong opinion. You can take it to /xivg/ or you can take it to Reddit. You cannot have that here.
>>542202128>nuuu dont talk about final fantasy in the final fantasy thread, it offends mmeeeeeeeThis is how you sound.
VIIR and XVII both will feature multiple endings.
>>542202481Take your positive or neutral comments about XIV to /xivg/ or to Reddit. They are wrong opinions.
>>542198613ME3 and ME2 were pure slop
>>542203442They're also not final fantasy games
>>542206401In this context, it does not matter. Non-FF games are being used as examples to uphold and enforce a correct opinion about Final Fantasy. The /ffg/ is all about voicing correct opinions while silencing incorrect opinions, about Final Fantasy as well as other games, and non-FF games are permissible topics of conversation as long as they are being used in a way that is congruent with the correct opinion regarding Final Fantasy.
>>542206787The schizos don't care about context
>>542206787Just fuck off already
>>542206787you upset the cult lmao
Literally the worst general in all /vg/
>>542214021t. never visited /dfg/, /kspg/ or /sthg/
Just beat Tactics Ivalice ChroniclesExcellent game, 10/10
>>542214021Once we accept E33 discussion, the general will thrive.
>>542215396We'll have to hold off on such strong opinions for probably another week or two. Stating such extreme opinions on /ffg/ before we have established what the correct opinion is could have dire consequences for the future of our discussions. >>542215442Positive posts about E33 are permitted on /ffg/ as they are correct opinions to have. Neutral or negative opinions will not be tolerated under any circumstances except maybe if the poster declares that they are homosexual.
>>542215396ALREADY?! I only beat the first act.
>>542216165Yeah, was quite a fun journey, great story.It was my first time ever playing Tactics and I was really impressed.
>>542216441Is it that good? My boyfriend absolutely love this game, but he fails to make them appear fun, since whenever he starts talking about it, it's all numbers, bravery, minmaxing, Ramza, Gafgarion, and what else.
still think FF should get a hero shooterwhat better characters to play roles than role-playing characters
>>542216882Really good. With the remaster too you can set it to a lower difficulty and just experience the story.The numbers and strategy aspects are there if you're the type of person that it enjoys it.It has something for everyone.
>>542217253...I see. Now I kinda want to see challenge runs, like for BG3.Maybe I should play it myself instead of watching bf play it.
>>542216882Very smart, peppering in your boyfriend like that. Excellent groundwork, if these positive opinions of Ivalice Chronicles are later proven to be wrong.
>>542217614Take your meds.
>>542218387I don't take any medications. Thank you for your concern though.
>>542218528Then maybe it's time to start, you show worrisome syndroms: paranoia, patter recognition...
>>542215396>>542217614I'm gay btw
>>542218627No, I'm not.
>>542218612Thank you for your concern, but you are wrong. It's okay. There are a few people on /ffg/ who have wrong opinions, and yours is just another one of those. Unfortunately, this opinion of your is not related to a video game. >>542218627Understandable. We may not agree with or understand you, but we support you, even if your opinion turns out to be wrong in the future.
Tactics should have been a mainline numbered FF imo
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>>542220021>evading his ban againThis is why nobody like you, fatherless.
>>542220021You struck a nerve. The Venezuelan Vfag can barely contain his butthurt.
Just had a bad dream that the next FF wasn’t turn based and was just more action slop. Yikes !
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>>542240184>Aerith lives ending>Depressed mailman ending that leads to AC and extinction of civilization 500 years later
>>542027547ScumEnix...
>>542063956That's a lot of projection anon.
>>542053623>forgetting pocket XV or the PS1/PS2 portsClassic 13 retardation.
>>542081424Based.>>5420813412 playable, multiple guests like in III and XII. Oddly, both are more than what XV had at launch.
>>542246781>pocket XV>AAApowerful post
>>542148041Yup. Normally if a game is bad you just move on. But that game and the devs utterly btfo his troon ass.For me it was bad games like pokemon sword and shield but I was fine. Regarding FF both remakes and XVI and XV were all mid, but I have SMT, Xenoblade, 33, and Metaphor to fall back on.
>>542167640>setting is more like Medieval NarutoSounds kino. And it was outright teased to be so on the official website.
>>542187762>"newfag" still melting down over VSad!
>>542081341There are no party members in the game. There are NPCs who run around empty fields with you, pretending to make a difference, and there's a dog—an inferior version of Kratos's son from new God of War, but without any customisation of abilities. Dog can be used for follow-up attacks, which is cool for the first two times. Otherwise it's useless.
>>542189905>542189967>542190083>542190434>542190460>>542192141
>>542192620>>542193005>why isn't a producer doing the writing?
>>542194894>same old pic, same old maldingA shitpost as old as time. Why is the Rebirth fanboy so unhinged?
>>542217104Didn't quite work out for First Soldier.
I believe that if someone doesn't like Yoshi-P and his games, they should whine and constantly voice it on social media and forums. If you don't speak up and sit in a corner like a cuck, then nothing will change for the better for you. However, if enough people express their opinions, some changes are possible. Possible, but not guaranteed to happen. If someone believes that person X is making the series worse, there's always a point in speaking up. This is especially true for a series like FF, where there is a 6-7 year wait between mainline games.
I will be purchasing Pokémon Legends Z-A next week.I will not be purchasing FF Tactics remastered, at least not until it goes on sale.
>>542248912Millions, potentially even billions, will be doing the same.
>>542059216Lighting Returns is one of the most experimental games in gaming.
>>542248876I don't think making passive aggressive posts day in and day out on a single general on a board or two on 4chan will get anyone's attention. Especially when most complaints are quite shallow.
>>542249339>majora's mask but with less soul and a m*rysue
>>542121241Day 2 and unfortunately the meltdown has still no end in sight. It is unknown if it'll last through Day 3, but we know someone has energy to spare at the very least.
Aerisu!The prettiest
>>542249390One voice in a vast chorus. A few years ago, YouTube videos titled "The problem with Yoshi-P" or something like that were practically unheard of, but now they're a reality and racking up hundreds of thousands of views. Little strokes fell great oaks.
Today the truth will be revealed.1) The Beautiful Muse is not Mary Sue.2) LR's combat system is not present in MM.3) LR's leveling and customization systems do not exist in MM.The very conjunction of parameters, such as limited real-time to beat the game, the combat system, the customization system, the inventory system, progression and equipment development system, make LR what it is — an experimental, unique game with a fragrant aroma. Vanillereality.
Horrible thread
What a shame that Lightning, FF's biggest Mary-Sue, doesn't get the video essay she deserves for her ableist, grooming ways.
>ableistSo the Yoshitroons are disabled?
>>542254790fucking lmao
>>542248425that was a battle royale for phones, not a hero shooter
>>542249834She is very pretty! Still the worst girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iokWRq8pkF0FFT Cloud is a clone of 2 guys?
>>542248912>buying Pokemon yet shunning Ivalice kinoyou don't belong here
>>542240184>"I believe this conclusion will please all the FF7 fan community that loved the original, as well as all of those who became part [of] this FF7 fan community through the FF7 Remake series."How can he say this when the FF7 Remake series itself has already alienated a sizeable portion of the original FF7 fan community via the inclusion of things like Whispers? Why is he lying like this? No one liked the ending of Part 1, no one liked the ending of Part 2. Aside from just necessary PR which is obviously what this is, how could he possibly say that Part 3 (the ending specifically) is what is magically going to bring back the fans of the original FF7 that he has purposely alienated with the first 2 entries into the series? He's lying through his teeth. Has he ever said anything about his video game that he is making which is true?
Which char has the best bussy? I'd go with Cloud
>>542256320Correct opinion.
>>542256359He's coping. They are rushing to push it out asap since the fans didn't buy Debirth.All he's got left is a few Tifa twitter coomers that don't buy games.Hamaguchi is finished.
Before you make negative remarks about Purest Rose Eclair, I want you to remember that Eclair is Fragrant Heroine and our Mother.
Before you make negative remarks about Vanille, I want you to remember that Vanille is the most Heroic Heroine.
>>542256645I wonder how many other lies he has told. I wonder if he's ever told the truth about anything. Probably not. Unfortunately, I'm not mindbroken enough to have a catalogue of every lie he's ever told, and I don't spend my entire life searching for and scrutinizing everything that video game devs say, but if I did I bet I'd find that the FF7 Remake series devs are all dirty, rotten liars like Hamaguchi is.
>>542250436>>542251681>>542256676>>542257040I'm afraid these opinions are all correct.
E33 is more FF than XIII & XVI, yet we cannot discuss that, but are allowed to spam the general with the latter? What logic is that?
>>542257068In fact, any one of the devs who has ever said something along the lines of >"I believe the original fans of FF7 will love this game"like Hamaguchi just did would be flat out wrong. For example, Nomura included the Whispers specifically to fuck with people who wanted a 1:1 Remake and for no other purpose, but the Whispers existing combined with how very little the story has actually changed actually also alienated the people who DID want changes but didn't actually get any. The developers for FF7 Remake are sorely out of touch with the audience they are targeting with their cash grab nostalgiabait product. And then there's also the people who want Final Fantasy to return to its roots by becoming a turn-based game again, and the FF7 Remake series once again alienated those people as well. I think the FF7 Remake series was actually specifically engineered to alienate as many of the original fans as possible since it's nowhere near the same at all, so to say that they think fans of the original would love any aspect of the FF7 Remake is a bold faced lie which they know quite intimately is absolutely not true because Rebirth's sales were so poor. To be able to sit there and keep peddling the same lie is such a dishonest and malicious business practice and shows that they are only creating a product they want everyone to buy and nothing more than that.
>>542257926The sentiment depicted in this image perfectly encapsulates the soul and essence of the FF7 Remake series.
The video games, Final Fantasy XIII trilogy, capture the essence of the classic titles and continue the thematic legacy of Sakaguchi's stories.
>>542258490More people would have liked XIII if that were true.
>>542258490Fang, the OST and the visuals are literally the only thing XIII has going for it. Stop shitposting.
>>542256359>alienatedI'm glad I'm not one of them.
>>542258821see >>542258347As long as the only thing you care about is buying FF7 product and getting excited for next FF7 product, then the FF7 Remake series was custom tailored and designed specifically for (You) as a nostalgiabait cash grab product.
>>542258949Not everyone is as cynical as you are.
slop33 will never be Final Fantasy.
>>542259090If that's how you must frame your cope in order to live with the fact that you fell hook line and sinker for an unnecessary 3 game Remake that has practically nothing to do with the original besides using the name hoping to bait retards into purchasing their product multiple times, then so be it. If there is any one of SE's products that people should be boycotting, it is the FF7 Remake. By purchasing any part of that Remake you are telling Square Enix that you want to be sold 1 game as 3 separate fully priced parts which completely misunderstand and lose the soul of the original.
>>542256359>How can he say this when the FF7 Remake series itself has already alienated a sizeable portion of the original FF7 fan community Huge if factual
>>542259960Unfortunately, it is deathly true. Many people purchased Remake, thinking "hey I liked Final Fantasy VII!"However, upon seeing that Remake is not actually Final Fantasy VII and is instead some bastardized shell product using Final Fantasy VII's name only, about 70% of the 7 million of people who purchased Remake all collectively decided to not purchase Rebirth.
>>542260269Big if proven.
>>542258704>>542258642One of the secondary themes related to the dynamics of the XIII trilogy's world is theme of balance of the universe. The imbalance of chaos and crystal is literally linked to many of the problems of the XIII world. Differing perspectives on solving this problem caused most of the conflicts in the game between parties.>Etro arrived at the side of Muin as she was about to disappear.>Muin told Etro to maintain the balance of the world as she was swallowed up by the chaos.In this aspect, Trilogy is in absolute solidarity with Sakaguchi and his conclusions bout the problem of balance, and supports his intuitions on this matter. Here are Sakaguchi's words in an interview prior to Fantasian's release:>With Fantasian I took this idea of order and chaos, and the idea of finding a balance between the two of them, which also comes from my interest in metaphysics>Similarly if there's too much order or too much chaos in our Universe I think...if you go to one extreme or the other, the Universe will just cease to exist, but somehow the Universe found this perfect balance betweeen chaos and order that it's able to sustain this system...which to me is quite mysterious and also very attractive. Sakaguchi's last game, Fantasian, was dedicated to this very theme. Classic Final Fantasies are too very closely connected to the problem of restoring the balance of natural forces. A friendly reminder that the world at the end of Lightning Returns created by Bhunivelze has not been destroyed. The way this world works has not been affected in any bad way either. In fact the balance of the cycle of rebirths has been restored. This is the reason why Yeuls with Chad Ballad decided to stay in the domain of the dead. Etro's main task - to maintain balance in the FNC's metempsychotic system - has been fulfilled.Purest Muse's games are certified Final Fantasy classic. They continued to develop the themes laid down by the founding father of the series.
>>542260369Jesus Christ, did not read. Why would you ever think that anyone would want to read that much garbage you wrote about XIII?
>>542259960>>542260338You really want us to start posting evidence of Rebirth's meagre sales again?
>>542260369Sakaguchi is right about FFXIII.
It still boggles my mind that anyone at Square Enix thought any of the decisions made with the FF7 Remake series were good ideas. From the Whispers to the fact that it's 3 separate games, who could ever possibly love such a nostalgiabait cash grab product besides the completely mazed retards who were always going to purchase everything with the Final Fantasy 7 name on it no matter what?
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>>542260369>>542260720I'm sorry but Sakaguchi does indeed know better than you.
>>542260462I would also add that the theme of balance, so important to the series' founder, was realized in the XIII trilogy not only through the dynamics of the world but also through the character dynamics of our beautiful Claire. The conflict between the roles of mother and abandoned daughter, the conflict between a repressed, chaotic, sensual part (Lumina) and a rational, cold, and powerful crystalline part, constitutes Claire's story.In this sense, the heroine, Claire, embodies the essence of one of the most important themes for the creator of Final Fantasy.Claire herself is...She is...She is the Final Fantasy.
As a fan of Final Fantasy since I was maybe 6 or 7, I've always wanted to see a system like FFVIIR. Final Fantasy that's a fighting game. Something that combines the cinematic summon animations and fantastical nature of FF turn based combat with a living breathing gameplay system that you will control in real time. It's the game that I dreamed of playing as a 13 year old when I was renting hack and slash games from the video store. I'm so glad the world has VIIR as the potential base for new major Final Fantasy games, and that the kids today are enjoying these new FF games that have such a great fucking combat system. Elite combat system.It's not perfect though. There's bloat and on rails game design sludge all over the place before you get to the good combat instead of just giving you the good combat all the time inbetween story. I'd still personally prefer to see something closer to the concept of Versus XIII and FFXV. Huge open fields with a minimalist design, classic monsters, lots of systemic interactions like day/night, weather, realistic physics, cooking and camping, cinematic setpieces in the city areas and various story dungeons. Dark and romantic, sci fi and fantasy. Weighty and bloody, platforming action. Kingdom Hearts 2 but with a full Commands menu, complete with character switching, Jobs/weapons and all of your typical FF RPG elements.I dream for what FFXV could and should have been. With the original concepts intact, proper controls and inputs, full itemization, full enemy mechanics, etc, and a map that actually felt chaotic and apocalyptic as well as retro Americana, like Fallout.
>>542253487You angered the fatherless, xe had to project as xis mary sue again.
>>542260785Stabbed in the back, eh?
>>542261448Me? No. Final Fantasy 7? Yes.
>>542260487No one stopped you
