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Sickos Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-02-2025-update.84332/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>541960874
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>release the Halloween update the day before Halloween
How to kill your game 101
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Decided to dabble with some mods

https://files.catbox.moe/fwj0wn.mp4

Don't care what people say, the "push push push" Victor mod is fucking funny
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Dead(lock) game general cope and seethe edition
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Paige's hairy logcutter.
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ONE MORE FOR THE INHOUSE

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11/12
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>>542055502
had the exact same scenario as victor in this clip

hopefully game changes enough where everyone isnt doing the same thing
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>>542055673
You just blow over from /v/?
>>>/v/722857943
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>>542055673
Please God make all Mina and Paige players just leave
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>>542055431
I really hope it's today, the 17th or the 24th, the 30th is way too late for an event type thing but knowing valve that's exactly what they're gonna do.
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>>542055673
unfortunately in the current Multiplayer atmosphere most people will only play if there is some kind of progression/reward incentive for playing
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>>542055431
You guys care for events and aren't playing just for the fun of it?
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>>542056464
I'm a mentally ill man living paycheck to paycheck I need checkpoint type new stuff in my life to not kill myself
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>>542055673
The game is unbalanced as fuck right now
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>>542056464
intrinsic motivation is a myth
get back on the hedonic treadmill
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>>542057090
Its really not,kelvin is a little op but in general its been a lot worse
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>>542057274
Speak for yourself, I have business to attend to, like losing another game as a 100% gun Abrams
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SEX WITH THE DOORMAN
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Mina should be able to stack bats before she gets her ult. She really needs it since they nerfed the only good thing about her.
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Finally get a carry game after a bad lose streak
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Why is it so common for people to seethe about teammates after they make a misplay and die?
>Just died, time to bitch that my teammate is doing X instead of pushing the lane
>Just died, time to bitch that my Bebop on the other side of the map just missed a hook
>Just died, time to bitch where is my team and ignore that they just got a walker
>Just died, time to bitch that nobody bought a knockdown even though I was alone so nobody could have knocked GT down for me anyway
I could hit text limit with the amount of different seethes I've heard like this
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>>542056464
>the fun of it
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>>542058871
people who are self responsible play less video games than those who aren't
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>>542058871
youre playing with americans
drumfs america
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>>542058871
bitching and/or blame shifting is the closest thing to soothing the bruised ego of someone convinced they were going to go 20/0
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>>542059050
I'm euro and I've only gotten like 1 game on an American server recently
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>>542055502
eshifting must feel really good for victor
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>>542058871
ah yes the "post death text dump because my hands are free now"
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>>542055502
kek
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>>542058990
If you aren't having fun, why play? There's no gacha mechanics or hats (yet), MMR is broken and doesn't matter, to steam market items to sell for 0,03 cents per piece. Just what causes this self-flagellating behaviour anyway
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>>542059117
youre playing with russians/indians
putins russia/king goerges britain
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fun inhouse but im gonna go play vintage story
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Need 3 more for another inhouse
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>>542058871
rusniggers are incapable of self-reflection thats why
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>>542059253
failures put all their ego into videogames. when you think about it, the average dumb nerd doesn't have much going on so this is all they have.
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>>542059253
>why play?
I'm not
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>>542059535
Why are you here then? This isn't even masochistic gaming anymore, you're a gamer cuck.
>>542059441
But you can just grind achievements in single player games or some shit, this is unhealthy and should be studied by real psychologists.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWXIU0emLvU

>billy ults
>banish him to the hotel dimension as doorman
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>>542059701
>Why are you here then?
to antagonize
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>>542059701
to sit in the cuck chair and watch other people play
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>>542059701
the super autistic still find ways to bring ego into the SP experience - see all the troons doing speedrunning and all the drama in that community. the average gamer is a noodle armed cretin, they can bitch online without any repercussions, so they do. just how it is.
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>>542059774
Does someone have the matchcode from that game? Billy in that moment had so much fucking hp from his passive. I saw he had like a 5 by 20 heathbar.
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>>542059898
I had clicked on a speedrunning yt vid 1 (one) time and now this shit is all over my recommended. Why is jewtube like this.
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>>542060001
44536251
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>>542060001
He refresh ulted me and I got chained but I thought it was a visual bug because it still let me use my ult so I fucking slammed down and immediately after got pulled right back into him kek
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2 more for inhouse

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>>542058871
I swear to god half the people who play video games have conditioned themselves to look at the mini map and flame the closest team member to protect their unearned ego
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>>542060705
cool and fun anbility to fight against
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I love the ragdoll deaths on dynamo stomp
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Guess the gametime of this godforsaken game.
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2 slots left for lobby inhouse
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>>542059898
Billy's Hp vs Abrams hp. 3889 vs 1833. Billy was still outnumbered and was constantly cc'd so he still died.
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>>542060705
Cool ability, the cooler fact about it is it covers halp the map, the coolest fact about it is it goes through walls. Cool.
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>>542058871
Anything to shift the blame and avoid learning from their mistakes.
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>>542060838
>>542061146
It's basically a roomba that you can jump over, and it bounces off of corners and awkwardly changes angles when going down ramps.
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whats the filesize limit for the feedback forum? I'm trying to upload clips under 4mb and they're too big, but some other guy has 34mb videos on his thread.
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>>542058871
There's no reason to 'bitch' but it boils down to expectations. I see grey talon and paige at sub 100 hp in lane. What is the correct action when I say: let's kill them and you are wraith.


a
>lane as normal, hiding behind cover and last hitting then buying

b
>throw some cards and try to get a kill

c
>get closer to the ramp and pressure the tower

d
>dive, parry the tower, gun them down and card them, teleport out
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I cant even have simple fun in my shitlow no more I need to get good man
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>>542061497
the ''jump over it'' advice is a psyop, I tried jumping over it multiple times and its not possible.
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cmon lads 2 more for inhuus
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>join inhouse after faggot spams the thread 500 times to join it
>get seethed at for having the wrong steam pfp
>get seethed at for playing wrong
>get seethed at for dying
>get seethed at for seething at other people
>get seethed at for your hero choice
>get seethed at for your build
>god forbid you are on a team with meppz or sneeks
>guys why is nobody joining our hecking inhouse! ANYONE is welcome!
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>>542061817
A or c
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>>542062235
that meppz guy has been sperging out for decades now
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didn't happen doebeit
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>>542062235
>sneeks
didn't that guy play literally a single game, I didn't see him before the other day
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>>542056440
>all the big streamers stopped playing so no one cares
>people don't care about an invite only alpha
>people only care about a game if there's ranked
>there will be players when they add more content
>there will be more players when they fix MM
>once they add more characters the players will come back
>once the item rework comes out the game is going to blow up
>once they add more characters the players will come back
>even though they just released a huge update with tons of characters, nobody cares about an invite only alpha
>the game will have more players when they release grindables <--------- YOU ARE HERE
>the new grindables suck, people will definitely come back when there are more, better skins
>people only care about games with quest systems anyways
>this game will blow up when it hits 1.0
>okay it turns out skins don't make a shit unbalanced grind game more fun
>don't worry this game gonna blow up when they do the lane rework again
>the players will all come back when they introduce the monster hunter world jungle remake
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>>542062578
Yeah
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>>542062235
>join inhouse after faggot spams the thread 500 times to join it
>get seethed at for having the wrong steam pfp
no one has done this in lobby
>get seethed at for playing wrong
I've ran games down on purpose no one cares
>get seethed at for dying
doesn't happen with the regulars
>get seethed at for seething at other people
deserved
>get seethed at for your hero choice
doesn't happen with the regulars
>get seethed at for your build
doesn't happen
>god forbid you are on a team with meppz or sneeks
bingo, nail on the head right here.
>guys why is nobody joining our hecking inhouse! ANYONE is welcome!
not true, don't join if you're gonna rq like that one paige.
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The black wοman of Valve unoriginality.
These are TWO different characters.
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>>542061915
jokes aside Hasan is a monster, not only because of the Dog but the dude is clearly souless.
I Still remember when he got scolded live by Cenk Uygur
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>>542062771
keep fighting the good fight king.
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still 10/12... bros...
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i actually had enough time to bust a nut while sitting in this inhouse lobby wtf vros
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>get my first sinclair match
>"alright, time to learn this character"
>lane is vs haze and gun doorman
>whiff nearly every 1
>learn the hard way that bunny does not interrupt bullet dance
>basically, lane is fucking miserable
>after lane just feel totally lost, awkwardly having to play lane janny as nobody else is, feeling sluggish in my camp clear, etc
>...
>get carried by 22/2 mina and win anyways
by lategame the bolts were hitting like a truck sure but i really hope the game doesn't think i'm good enough at this character now because of one hilariously undeserved win
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Outhealing ult damage is so funny. Just standing in the storm charging my phone
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>>542055931
I have yet to see someone doing my exact build tbqhwy. But yeah sometimes the most useful thing you can do as Vic is spearhead a charge and E-shift can really keep you alive in that situation
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YES, SLICE THROUGH THEM YAMATO
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>>542063143
ok quickshot
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>>542062235
dawg i fed my ass off today and no one said shit, my laner partner actually also took some blame when I apologized, even though it was probably mostly my fault
110 ping is aids tho, not sure if I'll join another one.
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>>542063154
Wins are all that matters, better to go 3/12 and win than 22/3 and lose
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>>542063154
>i really hope the game doesn't think i'm good enough at this character now because of one hilariously undeserved win
I think the amount of people that queue sinclair is in double digits at most so congrats you are now in eternus lobbies for winning 1 sinclair game :)
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11/12
just ONE more
you can save this lobby right now

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>>542063232
E shift is required on spirit victor now if you don't want to kill yourself.
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>>542063382
im too bad tho
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>>542063154
rush 2 points into assistant. That's your bread and butter, also, you can swap positions with it from ANYWHERE. Also, you can LEFT CLICK and do decent damage around corners with no drop off, it's the ultimate laning tool.

Also, the bolt does more damage the longer it's in the air, and having 2 points assistant means you have more time to line up a good double slam. don't be afraid to try and directly hit flying characters with trickshots, the AOEs are quite forgiving.
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>people still buying QSR and Surge of Power on Mirage even when they're going spirit
bunch of barely sentient retards playing this game
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>>542063382
cmon...
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>>542063918
what's the problem again with those
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>>542063918
>>people still buying QSR and Surge of Power on Mirage even when they're going spirit
Are these not spirit items?
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This game needs the ability to open up sandbox while you're waiting in a lobby.
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>>542064026
popping mark early is a surprisingly big damage loss
>>542064032
not really
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>>542064205
you QSR on scarabs now
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>>542064236
but then you aren't using scarabs to start off a fight
at some point you have to acknowledge there are better solutions to ammo
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>>542064236
>you QSR on scarabs now
Who's doing this, NA players?
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>>542064236
retard
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>>542064404
you start by getting the first stacks and only commit after those
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>permastuck on 11/12
it might be over inhouse bros
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>>542064236
id rather just get kinetic dash
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>>542064746
I'd join you guys but it's time for bed. Good luck and have fun though!
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>>542063154
bunny doesn't interrupt anything. Want to see something really funny? Bunny an ulting Seven. Then watch your team die to the tesla hamster
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>>542064746
Are you guys still at 11/12?
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>>542065550
just started
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>>542065601
Okay I>>542065029 was just debating whether I should save the lobby or not. gl hf
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>>542061856
It was possible before they doubled the height from 0.5m to 1m lol
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>>542063507
do you still wanna rush 2 points into assistant on bolt build? i mostly just followed a random public bolt build that seemed reasonably detailed as a template
>>542065365
that's actually fucked up i thought my silence would silence things
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My dog wouldnt stop whining until I told him i was gonna call Hasan

Shut his ass right up
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>>542063918
Sorry I started this meme its still good to go qsr you just cant build firerate without also building cdr or ammo
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dota and deadlock only exist cause they have peak goonfurslop
the games are shit by default since valve made them
anyway dragon furry goonslop when?
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>>542061497
citation needed
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>>542066537
i miss her so much bros
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>>542066537
Never
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>>542064824
Ive decided against kd and just build Escalating resilience, slots are tight and the ammo is only good for the first mag, if you qsr then you will still have the fire rate for the second mag and it wont max
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>>542065868
Silence in DL =/= silence in Dota2. You will need something which has a stun or an interrupt in it. So not a silence and not a root either.
This one change is counterintuitive and took me way too long to get used to.
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>enemy denying like I've never seen
>even though I'm confirming perfectly they get it often
>my lane partner is struggling too
>mention how idk how theyre denying so well
>my lane partner with a russian name playing infernus says "because you stupid bot"
Why are they such dickheads? Can't they just be civil? Unsurprisingly the infernus is shit and everyone else has issues with him
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>>542066632
just lag compensation it landed on his screen
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enemy mina went 0/9/4 and honestly I was just happy that wasn't on my team for once
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>>542066387
it's bad
surge and cultist sac are also bad on him now
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>>542066919
ivy will have to do then..
anyway bye
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Valve should add a hero that can backstab and feign death to deadlock.
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ggs guys it was worth the wait
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Rough game when a Mo & Krill is top damaging on a team
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I feel bad for meming in all now.
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DO YOU BELIEVE IN LIFE AFTER LOVE
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>>542067724
>reposting some unfunny twitch comment about some made up story
kys
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I'm gonna try gun bictor again next inhouse that one felt like everyone feel asleep waiting.
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>>542068052
It was just someone giving up after 5 minutes, what can you do
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>>542068006
it really happened. am the wife. can confirm.
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le epic parry dodge or hitbox/ping jank
was pretty surprised to see i didn't get parried here
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>>542067278
Its only bad if you are going fire rate like Burstfire

At base lvl you can qsr+compress cooldown and it pops at 8x, for 12x you need a little more ammo but that's why I run extended mag
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I wanna goon
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>>542068272
I think he just parried too far away from where you punched honestly
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>>542068272
so that’s what my 2/13 wraith was doing….
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>>542068272
I think the melee hit box was just barely infront of it
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>>542068363
yeah i guess i landed in front of her and angled the punch to the other side in time
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>>542068272
you have 20x this player's hours. This isn't impressive
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>>542068360
I WANNA ROCK
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>>542068538
it's really not, the dagger is embarrassing even
we were just both equally confused at that point
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>>542068538
It's not clipped because he thought it was, they were both asking how the hell he didnt get parried in chat
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>>542057342
Broken ulties left and right, characters that require zero thought or skill to play, snowballing from lane win being out of control... Game is a fucking mess right now, It was unironically more balanced when it was 4 lanes somehow.
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>>542068229
Don't play M&K ever again
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>>542068729
Is this real?
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>>542068272
Looks like he didnt parry till after you punched, you can watch the replay
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>>542068760
but i need deadlock to fill the husband-shaped hole in my life
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>>542068926
Then choose a different hero, M&K are two niggas and you can't have two husbands at the same time, its against the rules
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>>542068803
Nah man it's photoshop
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>>542069052
I think he is roleplaying as one of the two and pretending the other one is the husband
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>>542068729
is someone still hosting? i can play now
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>>542069251
nyo it disbanded, a few left after the match and seeing what a struggle it was to fill the rest just left as well
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>>542068729
elo schizophrenia is based
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>>542069175
Disgusting
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>>542069326
it's joever... if only i wasn't a human that needs to eat...
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After seeing the ranks of the people playing I think I'm not gonna play inhouse until I reach ascendant (Ritualist chad rn). I don't feel like playing punching bag
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>>542069681
You aren't reaching ascendant unless you make a new account and stomp 10 games in a row
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>>542069681
Rank doesn't matter
I'm Seeker and I've topscored in an inhouse before
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we need a (delusional) knight character
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>>542070186
Warden
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>>542070186
quixotic kino
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>>542055132
Fought against a Pocket who did near perfect combos. Their account only has 14 games played yet they are already in Ritualist rank. Gotta love fucking smurf accounts!
>their Steam account was made 1 month ago and is level 5
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The past 7 matches have been almost exactly like this, enemy team full of either higher ranker-smurf and or duo friends doing nigger comboes . My team on the other hand is always filled with randoms that play on autopilot, this particular match I couldn't even push since I had to lane janny and defend pushes all the fucking time.
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>>542070186
guy who thinks the enemy patron is a dragon or whatever and doesn't even care about the wish
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>>542070609
>his wish is plunging the world back into the dark ages
don kazynski would be a good hero
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>>542070596
Also, this seven was complaining all the time but ended up doing less damage than cockcaige. What a tranny.
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>>542068272
sheboon on sheboon action
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>>542070596
>only one not going negative
I know that feel ritualist bro. I don't know how to get out of this hell. I only fell down here because I took break (you can literally lose rank just from not playing for a month).
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>>542070186
Yes
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>>542055502
>mikubop
I knew you were based
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>>542069185
>the guy bitching and moaning and who rage quit before the match ended isn't even ranked
lol lmao even
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>>542055502
my fucking eyes ow
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>>542070890
Was archon 1 before the 7 losses, it's really weird. I came back from an almost year hiatus and got my rank at emissary 2 and then to archon but the lobbies remain on the same average, but always imbalanced.
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>>542055502
Nice. Link to mod? Or did you make it yourself? Share at least the mp3 and how to do it ourselves.
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>commanding position, stomping
>take shrines
>"lets mid"
>"lets patron, dont be a pussy"
>3 people instantly die
>enemy team gets mid
>instantly lose the game

it drives me up the wall
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This game really does feel like it's forced 50/50, I've played games with less total players that felt far more balanced.
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>>542072351
wtf is this image? kill yourself
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>>542072691
nta but that image is literally me
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>>542072691
nta but looks like /tttt/ fagslop to me
terrible stuff
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EVERY SINGLE GAME MY TEAM IS THE RETARDED ONE THAT HOVERS AROUND MID JUST TO DIE WHILE THE ENEMIES PUSH SIDELANES TO GET FREE WALKERS

YOU CANNOT WIN WITH THIS SHIT
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>>542055132
When the fuck are they going to nerf Haze into irrelevancy? Fuck this stupid ass broken braindead babymode character
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>>542073725
kelvin*
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>>542073725
Haze, wraith, nigfernus, kancerlvin, mohammerda, gay talon, doornigger, and maybe shiv. Currently you are going to at least 2-3 of these every single game because they are braindead to play.
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sometimes i just scope in on people as vindicta to make them scurry away
somehow works even if they're full hp
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about to get an eu proxy because russians would be an upgrade from americans.
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>>542073594
Why did I queue again. I hate this game
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>>542068538
So? When Deadlock was released no one was playing seriously. I spammed like 200 early matches as Dynamo and Lash exclusively just to gooz around and have fun. I had way too high sensitivity and gave no shits about aiming or farming effectively.

If anyone knows movement and has < 100 hours it's a certified fucking smurf. It takes a long time to learn not only the game mechanics, map, movement, moba aspect, items etc. and in the start of the game it was all unknown to most of us. No guides online or anything. Now all you niggers do is follow guides, play and lose for the first 1000 hours, then roll a fucking smurf account and act like you're a pro at the game from the start. Ruining the game for others. Disgusting faggots.
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Doornigger is the most braindead character in the game currently, even if you are the most useless braindead chromie retard you are still a -1 for the enemy team.
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>>542055673
>Matchmaking is fucked
>Characters are unbalanced as fuck
>Teammates are retarded as fuck
I have been playing since the new 5 heroes released, but even then I'm already getting bored of it.
I don't know what makes it possible for me to keep playing dota2 for thousands of hours, but deadlock certainly doesn't have it.
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So no update?
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>enemies kill one or two retards isolated with a gank
>they go mid
>while I’m victor with ult and dynamo also has ult
>get a 3k and 2 rejuvs
>end up taking all their walkers and base guardians with it
these niggas could’ve been MY teammates what the helly
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inhouse doko
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>Paige hitting the indoor big camp for a minute straight
>lets our blue walker die
>the wave on blue would be worth more than the camp and dies in 2 seconds
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>having to play squatting on the ground with my laptop a foot above my shoulders
>still end up as one of the top 2 players on my team
This is why I like inhouses more
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>>542076296
Is there a chart showing what camps are worth what and what waves are worth at different times?

I don't actually know the value of camps despite my hours
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>Paige farting out her hairy pooper for a minute straight
>stinks out the entire spawn
>I cum in 2 seconds
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>>542076423
if you like inhouses so much why don't you host one??
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>>542076526
Because I'm not at my regular computer setup, anon
Or do you think I just play every inhouse squatting on the floor like a thirdie
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>>542076427
You should always push waves over jungle no matter what just for map pressure/info. And until late game the time/money is going to always favor waves anyway
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If you're on my team and I don't like your username or the way you speak I'm going to throw. I genuinely will lose on purpose if I don't think you deserve to win.
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>>542076849
lol
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>>542076797
warden players irl
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top 10 things you do not want to see when loading into an e6 lobby
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>>542077448
grimmy
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>>542077448
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>>542076849
not bad for a 'jak template
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>>542076747
yeah I know but what about between camps or when there's someone else in the lane
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a caminar... no va a ser suficiente
i miss ivy's old ult
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>Retard gets into a 1v3 on the enemy side of the map while enemy has rejuv
>team???
I swear this is how I lose at least half of my games.
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>>542078189
her old ult? What was it I only started deadlock september last year.
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Bebop ult should be an EMP that curses everyone in an AOE
>but that's just dynamo
shut up
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>>542078223
Don't worry bro we got people doing that in the inhouse too.
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>>542075649
DoorCHAD is likely far higher skill than whatever tranny shit you main
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>>542055132
Golden infernus
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>>542078683
Paradox, silence your worthless opinion one click wonder.
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>>542079383
>Meta abusing Parafaggot hating on any other hero
Kek
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It's a
>enemy team refuses to fight unless they outnumber you 3 to 1
match

boy i love grinding down walkers inch by inch until they still eventually lose at 45 minutes
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Being melee into Doorman is suffering
I get ulted at least 7 times a game because I'm the only one that faggot can reach half the time, I guess

I had an entire game where I wasn't even allowed to participate in a teamfight as Billy
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Paradox
Pocket
Ivy

The trifecta of annoying cunty players
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>>542079832
shrimply run up to him and counter spell as soon as you're in melee range
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>>542079665
>>542079863
I have never had difficulties against a paradox, even in the case she is super fed, all you have to do is buy ethereal shift and her whole combo is broken making her useless. Gun doesn't scale on her, spirit doesn't scale on her. If you are being bested by paradoxes is because you are either shit or against a cheater.
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make silence wave shoot out at like twice the current speed
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>>542080081
>all you have to do is buy ethereal shift
lel
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>>542079832
should have bought unstoppable
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are there any decent calico replacements, I realize most of my apprehension to playing her is that she is a black woman of valve originality
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>>542080081
what is it with downplay chimps evaluating their character in a 1v1 situation
swap is a fundamentally busted ability that guarantees a kill every fight and if the paradox has functional motor function to click enemies, works from huge range as well
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>>542080321
'bop is paradox swap but on a 10 second cooldown
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>>542080321
>Retarded take
According to you bebop is buckbroken god destroyer as this anon says. A hook from 75+ meters is death.
>>542080587
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join the inhouse discord so you can know when we talk mad shit about you (we dont haha)
discord.gg/4vn9ErPrDJ
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>>542080791
I'm going to join and lurk
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>>542080587
it's also loud and slow, just like bebop himself
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>>542080791
kill yourself
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>>542081061
At least it doesn't fucking place him the same spot as the enemy so in the late game it doesn't become an almost 1 to 1 trade because IT FUCKING Places here in the middle of the enemy team.
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>>542080791
Sorry I'm not a Bender.
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>>542081151
maybe don't swap from the backlines ya idiot
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>>542078290
she could fly but it was cooler and she couldnt pick people up
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>>542080081
warp stone is a cheaper counter
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>>542077550
one must claw victory from the hands of retards
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>>542080791
this is a falseflag
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>>542072351

whoever took the time to make this image should beating around the bush and suck on a shotgun barrel
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>>542081240
Then don't argue that it's even close to equivalent to bebop's hook, it's not a long range reposition tool. It's best used as a short stupid stun/wall afflictor. It's only good because of wall.
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Paradox and Abrams are two heroes that have quite literally never been bad or out of the meta so just note if someone is downplaying them they are either a disingenuous main of one of them or just a retarded newfag that thinks Emissary is high elo, I really can't think of any other hero that has never been bad or at least had one humiliation ritual period of being shit aside from possibly Mo
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>>542081624
you were the one that brought it up thoughever
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>>542077809
I think jungling is fine if the enemy is basically trapped in their side of the map playing passive so that you gain money while they play defensive, it's basically just a last resort option imo. I almost never farm camps.but I love stealing sinner's.
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>Retard calls mid
>Retard can't kill mid
>Retard feeds mid
>Game lost
He typed "nigger" in chat so he can kiss his behavior score goodbye.
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>>542081694
Paradox is only decent at high level because of active item abuse, her kit is fun so adhd autists hyperfocus on being good on her so they can pull off an effective combo frequently and then abuse broken op actives. Since you have to buy actives due to her having essentially no scaling.
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>>542081829
>oh no my account in an alpha test game
>whatever will I do!?!?
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>>542081519
kek why am I not surprised you post here
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I'm so tired of parries
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deproy the inhousu
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buff geist mamaries.
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>>542082093
this ritualistsister
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>>542082282
iie
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is siphon bullets buggy
i shoot infernus in the sandbox and his healthbar completely disappears but he still has health and doesn't die from being shot
i'm not even using the neon prime healthbar
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>>542081519
why is pocket going TC first in fucking eternus
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>>542082282
I miss the poster that would slowly stretch her forehead in this image
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>>542082824
it's pubs bro
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Wtf am I supposed to do to a fed Yamato
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>>542081519
wtf we have someone doing more damage than aidan on /dlg/?
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dios mio... the absolute state of deadlock streamers
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>>542083116
Feed the obese alien more obviously.
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>>542081519
if you told me this was initiate i would believe it more than if you told me it was eternus
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>>542083621
NA eternus please understand
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>>542082347
those are pretty big
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>>542080791
absolutely the fuck not
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the discord isn't that bad people barely post so there's no drama or cliquefaggotry (at least for now)
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>>542083892
you're missing out. We're all talking mad shit about you right now.
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>>542010540
I never said she was good, you retarded hardstuck ritualist tranny.
she's fucking annoying in every convincible way.
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>>542084359
>convincible
Lul
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noob question
how do you farm when behind or how do you prevent a team with more souls from just farming like crazy?? no matter what i do it's just all ganks no matter how often i look at the minimap or try to group up with teammates nothing works. nothing but snowballing.
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>>542084626
play well and coordinate well with your team
4 people beat 1 person farming if they don't fuck up
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>>542081519
fake. It doesn't show rank up there anymore
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>>542083760
they are inadequate for a women of her power.
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>>542084985
bro your settings
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>>542085059
>a women
jeet
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>always have a singular spectator in my games
>am low rank
am I being stalked
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>>542081262
>it was cooler
it lasted like 4 second and then she forcibly crashed into the ground
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>team says they dont want to do boss when we are up 6v4
>enemy kills two of us
>they do boss 6v4 and win the game
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>Get matched with the same braindead retard on my team twice in a row
>Lose twice in a row
Nice matchmaking...
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>>542085386
we really need avoid player function

just had the most braindead geist that just walks around like an actual zombie in front of everyone then
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>>542085338
there's more to midboss than sheer numbers of alive teammates
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>>542085480
we killed their most farmed two players that were carrying and my gorilla retards still dont want to
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>play healbot disablebot kelvin (rescue beam knockdown curse)
>all 5 of teammates commend you unprompted
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>>542085970
you genuinely have no idea how much of a vantablack hexanigger you are
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>>542085970
based anti gamer
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>>542086105
Are you the overhead Mina I curse'd and prevented from using ethereal shift? Thus winning us the game when she fed (retard had no insurance items, only damage)
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>>542085970
me but viscous
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>>542086285
Why do minas ever build that? it's so fucking good to buy curse when they do
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>>542085970
I played healbot support Kelvin one game and had 100k healing and 3 of the enemies commended me. I don't know if it was a BM commend or a "wow you carried commend" because my team was literally retarded
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>>542086645
I commend enemies I enjoyed playing against. ( I will never commend a haze billy or mina)
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>>542063918
I have been spamming Mirage all week and QSR / Mercurial are insanely good on him lil bro
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>drifter is allowed to just squirt in your eyes and blind you for an entire team fight

Ok? Doesn't work if he's facing away from you.
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>>542064032
Nah not really they're for hybrid builds. I think it's especially shit on mirage since you want to keep your ammo up not blow it all so your mark isnt stacking every time it's off cd. I'd actually think kinetic dash is better for a spirit mirage
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>>542086796

I would never commend a Mina I play with let alone against
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>>542086823
you could have just said you're trans
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>>542085386
i know how you feel. literally every single game i have this one idiot on my team
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>>542087073
I am a GROWN MAN with HAIRY COCK AND BALLS and I love raping people with Mirage

FOR THE DJINN
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>drifter bought knockdown 2nd item
>and 2 others bought it too
bruh
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>>542087073
But enough about Lash mains
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>>542086823
look at your damage summary I dont think mercurial is a good item
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wtf is qsr
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>mfw still getting the out of date drivers popup despite my game running smoothly without touching anything on the video settings
I am not upgrading my gpu Valve, fuck off
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>>542087301
What the fuck have you done this game
What even is that beside Rice Shower
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>>542064026
nothing, anon is gaslighting and coping because he's shit.
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>>542087301
niggas will talk about "death of the art style" and then mod their game like this
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>>542087358
Quicksilver Rash
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>>542087339
The damage isn't even the best part about it thoughbeit, having an on demand instant reload/steroid just for shooting someone a single time is super value

You can basically pop mark at any time and get huge value out of it, "cutting" the mark damage early to get an entire second volley of bullets out + a second mark is way way better than you might think
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>>542087817
Ok but if the damage isnt great why spent 4800 on the upgrade instead of keeping it qsr
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>>542087817
>>542088035
actually that's a heavy amount of damage

it's terrible on drifter because I guess his base damage is really low I swear it does less than 1k every time on him
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>>542088035
Slot efficiency, spirit power, and Merc's buffs are substantially better than just a reload?

It doesn't even do bad damage either, did you not look at the damage summary I just posted? I owned Mercurial for ten minutes and it did 10% of my total damage that game, it's quite good my friend
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>>542087301
not even going to look into your pic. just kys
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>>542088197
Yes my friend apologies for my last harsh postings it is unfortunate timing yes? You will now understand the power of the Djinn, trust Nashala's plan, buy the Mercurial fast FOR THE DJINN okey
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>Retard racist on my team for two games
>Lose
>Retard racist on enemy team
>Win
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>>542088632
I might put mirage as one of my lower priority so I can split push and brool with my retards
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>>542088035
The damage by itself is already nothing to scoff at, but you're ignoring the fact it ups your regular gun damage DPS with its extra ammo, extra spirit power, bonus firerate and instant reload.
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>>542055673
>literally more players than Destiny
lmao
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>>542087562
putting stupid mods on source games is peak valve gaming though
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>>542085479
this would be abused so quickly not a single match of deadlock would ever occur a week after its release
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>>542088685
>Retard racist on my team
>Win
>mfw I'm the retard racist
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>had a dynamo max heal before blackhole
>held ult all game only would use it after someone died despite enemy team being all bunched up on that person
>he finally maxes blackhole as we get throned
>DEFEAT
I mean I needed to play bettter that game but holy shit looking at your teammates builds is not a rabithole I want to go down. He also threw a bitchfit when I asked why he wasn't blackholing them when they were all bunched up murdering me. Anyway that's enough for the night, never looking at my teammates builds again.
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>>542089065
Not a fair comparison; Bungie E U T H A N I Z E D d2 so fucking hard after hitting steam it wasn't even funny. I'm still mad because the gunplay was good but they ruined it with gayass bullet magnetism
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>>542089416
I only look at the enemy's builds if they are stomping my team, I dare not glance at the abyss.
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The key flaw in this game is the scaling. It's too fucked.

1. Levels increase stats
2. Items increase stats
3. soul efficiency bloats stats further

Players in the lead can go glass cannon since they are ahead, but if a player is behind, they die even easier. If they build a tanky item, then they can't deal enough damage, and since they are behind, they do less damage anyway.
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>27/2 mina
>12/5 mina
>14/0 mina
fuck off
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>>542089842
I've seen enough comebacks from behind to think this isn't as big an issue as you make it out to be. It's more about team diff than soul lead snowballing.
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>>542089965
>hard carry hero hard carries
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>>542089965
>MINA HA RISE UP AND TAKE WHAT YOU DESERVE.
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>>542090141
>hard carry hero is also a lane bully and ungankable with multicharge teleport
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I was watching a Sopranos video and I kept imagining Melfi's actor playing Geist if Deadlock existed 25 years ago
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>>542090084
and I've seen plenty of games where if the enemy team doesn't play recklessly and does mid/urn, you can't kill them.
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>>542090338
>slowing hex
>2 stam hero with the lowest hp in the game
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I feel like the matchmaking has been getting worse these past few days holy shit, I'm either in lobbies that are 3 ranks below mine or 2 above, never on the same rank
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the cuckman likes to roam the baroness hallways and watch through the keyholes
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>>542080289
Yamato can be similar
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>>542080289
install the white calico mod
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>>542091349
oh I meant like a mod, I already play yamato...
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>>542080289
https://gamebanana.com/mods/620626
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>>542089842
This is by far this game's greatest flaw and why it can't be seriously taken as a competitive game. Your skill only matters for the first 10 minutes. After that, only your souls are speaking.
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>>542091786
>enemy team has a 20k soul lead
>one (1) bebop hook
>enemy now has a -2k soul lead
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>>542092017
reality:
>Bebop hooks them
>the enemy is too tanky to die anyway
>enemy hero punishes the hook because they are a CQC specialist or bought a counter or are a tank or nuker like Abrams or Mo or Calico or Yamato or they just have i-frames or an escape like Pocket or Viscous or
>entire enemy team comes running to peel for them and wipe your team
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just start the inhouse already
What the fuck is this shit
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>>542092201
obviously you have to have a team follow up on a clutch bebop hook, dumbass
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>>542089304
Idk what retarded logic youre using but dota 2 has it
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>>542092637
god dotafags are insufferable, literally the german wojack meme
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>>542090637
game needs super italian american character
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>>542092746
ok then, overwatch has it too
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>>542092845
alright maybe it will work out better than I think, I just feel like theres a lot of people on the ladder with beef and the playerbase might be too small to not suffer for it
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>>542091054
Game doesn't have enough players anymore to give fair matchmaking.
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>>542092980
>dota has it >:(
>ow has it : )

kill yourself
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Is refresher on Victor ult worth it?
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>>542093569
bro changed his mind when presented with new information and you're giving him shit for it
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>>542093569
its more like Im willing to admit I could be wrong if multiple games have it as a feature and also you dont start the discussion by saying my logic is retarded, try not to be so autistic
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>>542093637
There is no crime greater than being wrong on the internet
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It's crazy I don't see Drifter anymore in my games
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>>542093727
lucky you.
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>>542093727
he's still a menace but you need to use your brain so naturally everyone's fucked off back to the M1 laser pointers
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I just abandoned my first game. I'm starting to feel discontent with this game.
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>>542093615
I do it only when I’m stomping a game and completely carrying my shitter team
Being fed and having three lives makes it more winnable if they try throwing everything at you
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>>542094128
work on your ego
or stop playing
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>>542093727
If the enemy team realizes you’re fed and matchmaking handed you crayon-eating tards, you just autolose from being focused
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>>542094128
>doornigger
You're probably the faggot poster too. I hope you never come back.
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>>542092356
>no gun seven
>on a gun patch
based
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>>542094554
so much this
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>>542094295
>ego
I don't get it we were winning the lane but I just suddenly felt EXTREMELY bored and left. I didn't care if I got hit with a penalty.
>>542094554
I used an image I don't even play doorman, chill out lil man.
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>>542094581
the nigga went ultbot despite its nerfs
>refresher
>lightning scroll
>unstoppable
actual afk nigga
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I want to make Mirage work but my winrate on him is just so shitt. He has to work so hard and farm so perfectly to do anything. Halfassed ganks obliterate him. Teleport into a fight and odds are I get deleted. My aim isn't TERRIBLE or anything. I just dont know what to do. I feel like I need to be well-fed to do the sort of damage a spirit nuker gets for existing.

>>542094727
Fried dopamine, perhaps? Try working out and stop jerking off.
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if two allied characters slide past eachother in opposite directions they should high five eachother.
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>>542094769
based based based
please tell me he took all your camps too
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120 games in and I'm starting to get nervous to queue I'm not even good at the game. I'm so fucking tired of myself. I haven't played Kelvin and I want to try him out but I'm afraid to play poorly with a top tier hero.
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>>542094927
people play badly with high tier characters all the time.
top tier isn't autowin in this game like some other games.
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>>542094927
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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>>542094847
I workout 3x a week and I haven't jerked off since June of this year.
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>>542095083
maybe jerk off more then?
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does standing in a haze ult actually distribute the damage
or is it just shot beams per person inside
obviously ricochet makes this a bad idea lategame
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>>542094927
I just fed my ass off on Mina and apparently she's top tier. Half my team who were also fuckin garbage were pissed too. Do whatever.
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>>542094927
you shouldn't be scared to queue with unplayed heroes because it puts you in a separate queue for people also testing heroes (allegedly)
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>>542094927
all you have to do is recognize the best player on your team and play around him on kelvin, throw grenades to heal them, sit on them for domes and create lopsided fights for them, watch them in fights and rescue beam them if necessary, dont overthink it and just hit play

>>542095083
nigga you are gonna give yourself ED
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>Person plays insanely aggro in lane and then spends the entire rest of the game running from 1v1s and only fights if he outnumbers you

The amount of faggots I witness do this
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>>542095028
Dune is such a shit book. Tried to read it years ago and it really is just YA slop
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>>542095290
Your mistake for trying to read it. I've only seen the Lynch kino.
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>>542095150
it splits the damage equally.
it's very good to soak in if she's trying to kill one person but people have been conditioned to run away from her instead of just punching her to death. not only does it split the damage, it halves her damage ramping from her passive 3 stacks.
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>>542095249
>ED
Wait really? I thought that was just a blatant lie to get you to become a pornsick gooner.
>>542095149
I'm trying to see how long I can go.
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>lane with billy
>instead of retardo auto parried billy it's "never use ult" billy

look. billy's ult is like lash ult. if you don't know how to use it...fucking learn it before picking up the hero.
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>>542095516
yes, if you dont use your dick it stops working, the original point of nofap was to get you to fuck but the issue is no one actually read it and they also get no play so a ton of you retards are giving yourselves ED
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>>542094850
add the dota2 highfive so I can highfive my ganker when getting dived at our t2 with the t1 still up.
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>>542095595
source?
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>>542095595
if I don't jack off I just nut in my sleep every couple weeks, pretty sure not jacking off has fuck all to do with ED
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Why is it always the most drunken, braindead, single-digit IQ Russian retards who play Haze?
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>>542095812
she's a M1 bot
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>>542096016
a m1gger if you would
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>scribble all over the map
>immediately after draw a swastika
>ivy on my team says nice drawing just as all the scribbles fade away to reveal the swastika
>everyone calls her a racist
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>>542096062
what a stretch
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>>542096186
m1gga?
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who do I watch everyone is SO SHIT
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>>542095249
thanks for the kelvin tips
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>>542093656
that wasn't me

marvel rivals also has it

I called it retarded logic because I genuinely dont understand how it would lead to less matches in any measurable way. You cant have infinite avoids and it only puts them on the enemy team not out of your match entirely
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Just imagine how cringe this game would be without MY feedback. If it wasn't for ME and MY complaining we would've had that cutesy rat ivy and that absolutely terrible tourist viscous.
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I wish the game had a 3v3 or 4v4 mode.
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>kelvin and geist on enemy team
>I am drifter
>literally canot kill anyone because geist life drains me whenever I go in on the front line
>if I go on the backline kelvin rescue beams/domes
>none of my team builds antiheal
I had 15 deaths and I dont even think it was my fault we lost. The game draft just griefed me. How do you play drifter when the enemy has a save hero?
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>>542096557
twisted treeline my beloved
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>>542096580
well what you do is after the first two deaths you stop holding W mindlessly
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>>542096464
It has caused issues with matchmaking in dota, but only at the top of mmr where the playerbase is really small.
That's why the ignore list is just straight up disabled in immortal draft.
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>Priest 1 is a grenade
>Boho 1 is just witch doctor cask
creatively bankrupt
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>>542096939
look at it go
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>>542096965
ohhhhhh yeaaaahhhh
someone call de doctah?
Abudallabozhenebwah
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>>542096939
Is it at least a bouncing grenade on a timer?
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>>542092798
The shopkeeper
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>>542096754
It's not disabled it just doesnt work because you pick from a pool of players to forms teams. You cant avoid them because the teams aren't selected yet.
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>>542097302
>It's not disabled it just doesnt work
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>>542097354
The way you stated it made it seem like avoid player was the problem and not that the matchmaker couldnt find good games at high mmr in general. Now they can select people who are supports and not have like 4 carries due to random matchmaking
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>>542096939
WAIT SERIOUSLY?? FINALLY THE BEST DOTA 2 SPELL IS IN, CASK FUCKING RULES
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>>542097543
I don't think it stuns, only does damage
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>>542097502
No there was an actual issue in the old draft system where certain people were getting avoided by everyone else in their (very narrow thanks to the tiny population that high up) MMR so they couldn't find games, sitting in queue for hours.
Also immortal draft doesn't fix the 4 carries problem, you still regularly get games with wildly skewed role representation because you pick your preferred roles once you join the game, not pre-queue.
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>>542097291
I want a character who's literally named "Paulie" and says "gabagool"
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>>542097992
I don't
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sinclair is very quickly growing on me
they need to finalize his design already and record his voicelines
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>be bebop
>get curse against highly mobile team of niggers
>1 kill
>have afk in the head-class teammates

WHY have this be a FUCKING TEAM GAME. It just pisses me off, why should I respect this game and not leave when the writing is on the wall? Why waste 30 minutes of my time? Oh you'll punish me with WORSE games? Ok, I won't fucking play.

eat shit
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>>542098167
They're probably taking a while for Sinclair since they have to record identical lines for both him and Savannah
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>>542097869
so more like hoodrat's acorn shot
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>no tony soprano mafioso to rival wraith and yama in a woman dominated workforce gangland nyc
WHAT ARE THEY DOING
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>>542096939
It's not the shotgun knockback anymore? Damn that blows.
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>>542098516
That's his 2
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>priests 1 is a grenade
>not holy water projectile

soulless
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Crazy how I can have stats like these and it's still impossible to kill anyone on their team unless they 1v1 mainfight me out of ego
We lost btw
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Paige 3 is one of the most annoying abilities in the game.
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>>542099087
If you wanted to kill people why is 25k of your networth in green items bro
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>>542099317
Because if it's not, they can literally just look at me and I die before the damage does anything bwo
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We need more Billy posts
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>>542055502
>that yamato gassing you up
Why don’t I get compliments or nice teammates?
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Fuck that, when we're getting a hero with Zeus ult?
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Is there any way to fast-buy components of an item? Like if I want Juggernaut but don't want to put Sprint Boots on the tree, can I just press X + click on Jug and auto-buy Spirit even if I don't have the money for Jug?
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why does shiv have the only unique aerial side dash lmao
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>>542092598
Still doesn't matter. And why are you pretending like you always have a long-range pick specialist? The enemy has a team too.
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>>542099317
That's the only way to survive with Billy vs. good players
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>>542099826
afk junglers can now steal your kills too
NOOOOO
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Fuck that when are we gonna get an actual white evropean vampire hero?
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>>542100857
both gooks
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>>542100857
drifter is litcherally from france bro
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>>542089842
The actual biggest flaw is that the major stat bloater (levels) is practically invisible to the player.

So much moba gameplay issues could easily be solved by getting rid of leveling.
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>>542099087
how do you get that many kills but no objective damage?
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>>542101167
Speed build and roaming
Push wave, fuck off before it gets to walker, flank for retarded teammates permafighting
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>>542101251
you killed all those people and didn't take any advantage of their temporary absence on the map.
shit, you weren't even the highest net worth with 21 kills that's embarassing.
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>>542100919
Flan is white.
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>>>>>killstealing
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>>542101603
It's why I don't play Drifter, it bums me out when a teammate gets the finishing blow since it cucks you out of stacks, otherwise I wouldn't care. Every other stack hero gets full stacks for assists
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post your overall souls you've collected
i've done 18 million
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>>542100857
I want an actual vampire royalty like Vorador, someone to shittalk the mortals and lesser vampires.
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another game another fuck tard billy throws the game
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i don't know why but drifter telling mina that vampire SOCIETY is nothing more than a big scam is really funny to me
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Gun fags really ruin this game
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>>542102407
>it's a wraith/infernus/ivy farm meta again
>ivy still a hyper farm hyper carry even after nerfs

ya
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>>542101468
Nigger why are you talking like you saw the game in realtime
I pushed with people when they stayed around to push. I'm not pushing a walker as solo Billy you spastic
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>>542102407
>Gun doorman with a 3 second stun for free headshots
Fuck these M1 patches, they suck fucking balls
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>>542102298
He's not lying.
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>>542102538
>strongest character in the game
>refuse to impose that presence on the map
that's why you lost.
i don't need to see the game to know what happened.
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>>542102929
I can tell you're a Hazecuck main or something. I'm imposing my presence, I can't control my team. Kill yourself
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>>542102407
I tried to warn everyone...
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>>542102754
>>542102506
>>542102407
>B-b-but muh skill issue!
>Muh third person shooter!!
It's all so tiresome. Funny though that one of the most busted cunts this patch is still Gray Talon, but thats a kit problem than meta
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>>542102407
Yeah, I've put the game down until next patches. I'm tired of bullet res, juggernaut and plated armor being damn near mandatory in most games
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im in losers queue after winning 48 out of 50 games, now i'm getting apes for teammates. Constantly, game after game.
Scores look shit, but that's because the 20/0 faggot 25 minutes in ruins the kda, who cares. This games retarded, you're a nigger if you're reading this and yoshi should blow his brains out
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>>542104190
>Wardenshitter
Deserved tbqh
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>>542104190
>rank up
>get harder opponents
WTF HOW CAN THIS BE
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>>542104190
i lashed out im sorry, you aren't all niggers here.
i'm just upset.
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Why does Fortitude take SO fucking long to kick in
I want to run it but holy fuck 14 seconds of not playing the game, and probably another 15 seconds of waiting to get to max, is miserable
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>>542104549
fortitudes passive is hard to balance because when its too strong its core on every character and people arent punished for bad fights because they just heal it all and the game is fucking boring
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Which heroes need to have their abilities reworked
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>>542104549
Because yoshi hates fun.
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>>542104549
i buy it for the movespeed.
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>>542104691
None of them.
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>>542104841
Yoshi...
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>>542104620
Just make it so it's not disabled by jungle creeps but not towers. That way you can use it to roam and heal up between fights, but it's still effectively the same thing
Not playing at all is a retarded design mechanic

>>542104764
That's literally why I want to get it. But when you roam, lose half your hp in the gank/dive, and now you have to wait a millennia to get the speed again it feels like you spent 32k on nothing
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>>542104691
mirage's 1
sinclair's 1
calico in general
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>>542104691
infernigga and his dumbass infinite force multiplier napalm
you really shouldn't have a skill that just straight up makes you take more damage from everything in a moba be that straightforward and spammable. Shit like malefice is much more reasonable in how it works despite being "the same"
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Mid boss. Guardians. Walkers. You want it? It's yours my friend, as long as you have enough farm.
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>>542104691
vindictas flight and assassinate
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>>542105432
20% into 40% dmg amp is just insane especially on charges
niggas like drifter have to isolate an enemy conditionally on a three lane map to just get 25% dmg amp (for himself only btw because infernus napalm for some reason is all damage taken debuff)
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>Doing really well in lane
>First to attack the walker. get it around half health
>Teleport behind it bc I was low and had no other option
>Make a joke in chat about it
>My lane partner gets mad about it
It's not the first time I've been doing well in lane and my lane partner shits on me for something asinine. Did valve forget to ship me the stick that supposed to go in my ass while playing this game?
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>>542104970
>That's literally why I want to get it. But when you roam, lose half your hp in the gank/dive, and now you have to wait a millennia to get the speed again it feels like you spent 32k on nothing
use the downtime to steal boxes and shit.
can't farm neutrals since they cancel it but you can still steal boxes or maybe walk towards a bridge buff that's about to spawn.
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Why is this game's netcode still abominable dogshit?
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>>542099915
Right click it
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people keep forgetting this is a game still in development
the real complaint should be why the fuck is there a secret private branch that only nda fags get access too.
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>>542106352
It's very hard to reconcile network lag in a game like this. Example:
>Most FPS games have you stop for a moment when changing directions, i.e. strafing A-D-A-D.
>But as a spectator, you'll likely not see them stop at all.
>This is an intentional choice in most games to hide latency, as that stop period can hide it
But in deadlock, everything is instant, there's like 50 instant cast spells with zero animation that can make you invulnerable, dashing in any direction is instant, and that's going to result in desync, where in the 40ms (0.04 seconds) it takes for your packet to reach the server, while you thought you hit that bebop hook, it will take another 40ms for it to travel back and tell you that ummm actually she instant casted mina 2 so no you didn't lol.

It probably won't get much better than this. There will be more tricks and hidden delays to help hide latency that they have to implement for each spell, but it'll never be perfect.
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>player: can you guys fix/improve this
>devs:*doesn't do it*
>player: *complains of lack of fix*
>bootlickers: hurr its a play test go back to sucking dev cock!
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>>542106609
because hero labs was a complete failure and they realized they couldnt rely on us to test properly post ranked release
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>>542100857
Deadlock is just western touhou
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>team starts flaming me and my lane partner for losing guardian at minute 5 and dying once each
come over this lane and face this fucking McGinnis/Kelvin combo and see if you can even farm safely, you faggot cocksuckers
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The other day I mentioned how I was having trouble playing Krillit Moshandu. It turns out I was using a very, very old build, one that came out right when the shop update happened, and never bothered to update. I changed to a more modern build, and so far I'm 3/4 games. It doesn't feel hard or bad or different at all - maybe a bit less tanky, but if I kill my target I don't need to be tanky. Thank you for the reality check.
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>>542106783
why would an nda be needed then? all the info from there is drip fed so slowly that aside from the few leakers that we barely know what is going on aside from when the branch gets updated.
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How do I stay ahead in the mid/late
I almost always get a lead early, but even when I push wave + farm camps in the downtime, I somehow end up neutral at some point without fail. Even when I go like 10/3 I somehow end up at the same souls as everyone else
If I ever die once, my lead simply stops existing with even feeding teammates who just mindlessly push down lanes catching up

Admittedly I'm relatively new so I don't know all the locations and sometimes I'm delayed a couple seconds from getting to camps because I misremember locations, but I'm still prioritizing lanes and only doing camps in the downtime
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>>542100857
Mina looks white
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>>542107069
probably because the knee jerk reactions to some changes will create unnecessary negativity, Ill use a recent example: bouncing off a wall costing half a stamina bar now

theres a lot of people that are claiming they want to dumb down the movement because of this, but originally infinite wall bouncing wasnt even possible in the first place, if you had just been given the full version of deadlock those changes would have occurred in development and no one could be falsely outraged over it, the extra secret build is a place they can test the changes with solid feedback from players who are better than most of the player base, if it gets positive reception then it gets pushed to live
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I love Drifter but i really feel like he needs some love. His early game is so bad and you basically need to become fed to have any chance to carry, and even if you do get fed he's just not as good as other gun carries in the late game. I honestly would prefer if they beefed up his early game, got rid of his permanent damage scaling on the passive and focused on making him more of a midgame roamer-ganker hero like Holliday/Lash/Doorman and etc.
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>>542106983
For George & Floyd I just buy all the duration items and it works great. To start I get mystic reach, qsr, burst, and arcane surge. You get 1 extra stamina and your scorn aoe is massive, it's pretty much impossible to lose lane with those starting items
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>>542106609
Lmao seriously? So Im just wasting my time with the forum because i'm not part of the first test for a second test? Valve is so retarded why the fuck did they release the game so early the closed test was so much better
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Why doesnt valve just shut the game down and pay like 50 people to test the game every once and a while. It would save them money most likely
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Can I put on my resume that I playtested deadlock under an nda?
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>>542107301
>his early game is so bad
Bro his early is some of the scariest shit wtf
Just go in when you have 1 + 2 and they fucking lose the lane instantly unless you play like a retard, or they're double ranged sitting under tower. But even then all it takes is a single 2 and a teammate with a brain and you win
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>>542107238
steal sinners and farm lanes
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>>542107238
are you buying economy items like cultist sacrifice or trophy collector or tesla bullets? you gotta farm fast and efficiently while also not dying and joining the occasional fight to choke out the enemy's farm.
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>>542107301
You should be able to choose if you want spirit or gun stacks. His mark should prevent movement abilities and do max hp damage so it kills people
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Thoughts on Magic Carpet on Mina?
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>>542107578
On the contrary this legitimately only works if the enemy team is completely retarded. The moment you jump on them and use your 1 they're going to retaliate and probably destroy you since he's slow and squishy. It's like people who spam lash slam in lane, it only works against people who get too spooked and don't retaliate, the moment they start using abilities back at you you're going to lose most trades. Then he's just a squishy, imobile hero with shit range on his autos that just gets poked out of lane by almost anyone. The saving grace is that you can camp veils, but that's only if they don't have someone who can easily contest them like Abrams or M&K. It genuinely baffles me every time i see someone dying to Drifter in lane because he's so fucking bad.
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Wraith is weird. Why is she so normal? Why does a gambling crime lord talk like a fucking accountant?
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>>542106680
I'm just frustrated with my consistent experience with this game, an experience that I can watch others simply not have. I pretty regularly have like half second delay of some variety. On my end, I will shoot someone, but no damage will be done. When I watch a replay, I'm just consistently shooting somewhere behind them, the entire game, damage only comes from aoes or if someone walks straight at/straight away from me. This did not used to be the case. They did some sort of lag compensation update like a year ago and it's just been like this since, for like 3/5 games. And I don't see this shit happen with other people, or anything even remotely like it in other games with similar network complexity.
I can't find anything weird in packet captures, the game never shows significant jitter or loss, my ping is always pretty in line with everyone else. I can't even tell a difference looking at those things between good/fucked games. But sometimes when the game fuckin works, I'll shit on a lobby because the game actually functions and my skill rating is fuckin rock bottom so nobody's good. I don't mind losing, or even getting totally shit on by someone smurfing, but it is wildly frustrating to lose to the game just not working, I can't fuckin learn anything like this, and I'm pretty consistently dead weight to teammates. I realize this sounds like a schizo rant, and it's also relatively hard to prove. But it is wildly frustrating. At one point I went frame by frame on a local recording and counted around 70% of on-target melee range shots just didn't register as hits
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>>542108123
probably because her character design is all over the place so they dont really know how to make her stand out

>black italian gangster but also telepathic magician

like how the fuck do you write lines for that shit
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>>542108074
I literally do it every game lol
Yes, against better players you need to know how to pick your trades better. But it goes both ways. You have openings against 70% of heroes where you can get the advantage early. If you get an ass lane opponent that just has no chance of success because they can permacamp tower, like Bebop + some floating faggot or something, then just ask for a swap

If they have melees then poke melee. If they have no interaction, just push and steal camps and fight them in camp pits
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>>542108123
she's a learned negro in the 1940's, that's unique in itself.
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>>542108292
>ask for swap
>enemy swaps too
it's a dumb system right now
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Doorman does everything Holiday does but better.
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>>542107480
NDAs are hard to enforce
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What are the odds Valve grows some balls and gives up on the retarded gun/spirit garbage and just adds pure melee heroes. This game will never feel like a Moba or be played by normies if you HAVE to aim like a counterstrike pro while also bouncing and sliding around. It's simply not happening it's way too hard of a game
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>>542109421
except be a real woman
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How do I make a lot of damage as Bebop?
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>>542109842
Blood tribute
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>Laning partner does everything in their power not to hit even a single soul orb
Why do they do this retarded shit like run around the map collecting boxes, only to end up with less souls than they would have while staying in the lane? And why do they never even try for denies, even the really easy ones? I, as Paige, one of the worst last-hitters in the game, always have the most denies in my lane because nobody else bothers to click the soul orbs. They're all just either mindlessly clicking enemy heroes not really doing much of anything, or they're just running off doing fuckall for the entire laning phase.
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>>542110280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TsVjvEkc4s&list=RD1TsVjvEkc4s&start_radio=1
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>>542109930
+berserker?
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>>542109651
Billy is the most melee oriented hero in game and it feels like ass to play against him.
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Drifter ult should be reworked. It's too powerful. Depriving the enemy team of vision during team fights is an auto-game winner. Specially with refresher.
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>calico if valve cared about making her look cute and funny
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I started playing in the past couple days and I hit my first 60k (by 40 min) souls game by going Cultist
Before now the highest I got was like 42
I can't tell if I was just completely on point with using it + had a good lane, or if it's because I just fucking ignored my team. Either way I was unkillable and I liked it so I'm doing it again
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>>542111295
https://youtu.be/22H-ywY-bXQ?si=eeyLqJTp9TIlSPXi
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>>542111187
I wouldnt mind it. Feels like shit to use anyway. Make him be able to actually 1v1 calico with an real combat ult.
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spirit overflow mirage is such a delight
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Trophy Collector on Billy?
I just want to roam with speed build and headbutt cunts while also not falling behind every game
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>wraith has 4 arms
>has to stop shooting her gun to throw a card
cmon now, I mean I know it would be busted otherwise but maybe they could nerf her card damage to compensate. It's kinda annoying that it interrupts her considering she has double the fucking hands to work with
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Why the fuck does late game come so fast in this game

It feels like you've got 10 minutes of early game, 5 minutes of midgame, and then the second someone gets their first tier 4 you're immediately put on a timer before you're fucked
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>>542111902
Yeah the pacing is all fucked up. 10 minutes of boring ass laning then suddenly all the guardians fall one by one. Then the walkers get ratted / force a teamfight. Once one team gets wiped they get boss and every walker is dead on one side and the game ends the next boss if it even lasts that long

Laning should go faster , walkers should get a fortify button
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>Tell some retard to last hit instead of hitting enemy heroes
>He threatens to leave
>Tell him to leave
>He does
>Game wasn't scored
What did he mean by this? Did he think this was somehow an "own" to send himself to the low priority queue?
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>>542111772
just get fleetfoot man
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>>542104190
Yes faggot keep seething and ragequeueing instead of taking a break that will surely help
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>>542112505
I do. That isn't a source of income for keeping up in the game though
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>parry someone but you didnt
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Should I get Cultist as my first 3200 or wait for another so I have more stats for fighting
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how do i play the lategame "macro" if noone but me has a mic?
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>>542112776
>you got the cd
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>>542112612
nigga you waste 3200 for an item that doesn't even give you good stats nor pays for itself until like 15 minutes later. just farm and rotate better
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>>542113838
That's why I'm asking you fucking troglodyte
You spent two posts saying literally fucking nothing
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>>542113962
i said you're retarded for even considering it
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>>542114041
And you're retarded for not killing yourself
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>>542111772
no it's a bad item which doesn't bring an edge in case of a losing game and doesn't really give anything when you're winning
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>>542113083
I'm bad (arcanist) do don't listen to me, but if I get cultist it's my first 3200 item yeah
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>>542114149
>he didn't even shit himself or prolapse
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>>542111772
if youre constantly roaming and winning it's a good way to stay ahead while choking them out

it's just very risky because it's 3200 spent on something that does nothing to continue your powerspiking

I like it on drifter some games since he's pretty strong after he gets backstab + coldfront he can just play like a support and still farm with it. Plus the rend range is nice to proc spirit snatch on multiple heroes at once
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the bot broke
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>>542114298
>>542111772
cultist sacrifice is more reliable btw
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>>542101692
vindicta doesn't get ONE THOUSAND FREE FUCKING SOULS if snipe leaves them on 1 hp
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>>542101692
you can still play drifter bro, just go spirit instead
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>>542115194
am I crazy or she gets it as unsecured souls?
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How do I build towards gun ivy with enough flexibility for counter/support items?
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>>542109651
Skill issue, uninstall. Get on Roblox maybe, might be more your speed.
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>Nonstop whining when spirit is strong
>Spirit gets nerfed and gun gets buffed
>WAHHHH NO SKILL M1 BOOGEYMAN RUINING MY GAMES
Genuinely what do you faggots want? All the threads before this recent patch were crying about Mina, Lash, Talon, etc and now they get nerfed and it's just back to M1 derangement
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>>542109651
>it's way too hard of a game
how is this bad?
what kind of mouthbreathing retard wants a competitive multiplayer game to be EASY?
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>>542116829
still here crying about mina but at least she isn't killing every objective on the map for free
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>>542116829
firat day interacting with others?
it's not the same people
people whine from the perspective of what they themselves can handle, not what's good overall
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>>542116829
Deadlock will eternally be plagued by those without skill whining that the game is too technically demanding. It's what you get when you rip people from a genre about clicking in 2D to a genre about clicking in 3D.
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>>542116432
Capacitor on ivy maxesout at 47% attack speed, and you get 8% from cap itself so that leave 39%

You can just get burstfire and be good on attack speed then maybe a one flat dmg and one armor shred for a minimalist gun ivy
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>>542109651
>the game is too hard for mass market appeal
lil bro thinks he's on the board
you will never be a valve executive
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Kinda funny how Grey Talon really is Vindicta but better in almost every single way.
>Vindicta can delete people with 50% or below. GT can delete people with 100% health or below.
>Vindicta is slow as molasses with 2 dashes and squishy. GT has more health, 4 dashes which are among the fastest dashes in the game and his speed scales with spirit.
>Vindicta's 2 is on an enormous cooldown and beyond the initial jump it makes her a sitting duck in the air, most of her damage is tied to it. GT has a shorter one that allows him to dash and makes so he doesn't need to aim as hard and he doesn't lose any damage without it.
>Vindicta's trap (strongest part of her kit) restricts enemies movements (doesn't prevent them from using them) and gives a fire rate reduction for under 2 seconds. GT's trap straight up disables your character for over 2 seconds at base (but to be fair it has arming time).
>Vindicta's ult requires LoS, screams her position away and on execution gives her some pocket change if she maxes it out. GT's doesn't require LoS, can catch people across the entire map, at max guarantees kill past a threshold and permanently boosts his entire kit with each kill..
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>>542117631
vindicta is hot
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>>542117631
Vindicta is still suffering through punishment nerfs for being annoying 6 months ago, I can only pray the same fate befalls Grey Talon.
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Im rushing compress cooldown(rend) then witchmail on drifter now
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>>542117170
what about the mag/reloads though
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You DO say gg when you lose a 6v6, right?
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>>542117170
>Capacitor on ivy maxesout at 47% attack speed
Sorry, not that anon, but does that mean that other heroes have fire rate max speeds or am I misinterpreting you?
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>>542118209
I always say gg.
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>>542118209
Buen Trabajo!
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>>542118209
only when it's a gg
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shiv's got nothing on my reskin of his ability
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>>542117631
1000 souls is honestly better than 5 spirit power though
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I genuinely do not understand how to play around dumb/bad teammates. This "everyone is int 1" bullshit is really drying up my patience for the game. Every fucking game is the same retard shit for brain teammates. They literally do nothing all game long. It's insane. They NEVER participate in fights. They NEVER help in any way shape or form, they never heal, they never back up when they should and just die die die die. The NEVER do anything useful for the team like run urn, get bridge buffs. Every time they should be aggressive they aren't, every time they shouldn't be aggressive, they are. Every time a perfect opportunity comes for them to at the very least damage an enemy to half, they just let them walk on by. Literally, walk away.

I mean what is the fucking point of playing when you are forced to lose in every sense? Could I be a better player too? Yeah sure, I'm not saying I'm the best. But when my personal game is being dragged down so hard by my teammates losing, I don't see how I can do anything in game to "improve" the situation or my skill when I'm getting raped in 3 lanes, ganked, walkers down, teammates farming 1 jungle creep instead of the 30 candle lane minions. I don't get it.
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I have like 300 games on Mina and now I am realizing that Mina is not really a proper carry. She falls off late game. You have to snowball with her and participate in fights asap. Not AFK farm like a Wraith or Seven.
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>>542118345
The cap is on capacitor, its 20 bullets per second, after that you aren't proccing more lightning so its less value

Only ivy and vyper have to really worry about this because other heros need a lot more investment to hit 20bps
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>>542118143
Her mag is already pretty big so idk if its as imprtant as the other items, he was asking for a lean build
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>>542118760
Get a duo you can rely on, two players can shift the entire trajectory of a game even with retarded teammates.
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Fucking coward teammate, keep asking the team to avoid fight and run away.
In the end, that gives enemy free spaces and they take over all the lane, gang on our team in the jungle, then take over our jungles.
Why don't these fucking retards learn how to play?
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>>542118832
she falls off exactly when it's time to buy spellbreaker
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>>542118760
Why are you playing team games? If you feel this strongly, go play Street Fighter or Starcraft. I think you're just cranky you lost. Tomorrow you'll queue up against some idiot teammates and feel like you're a god gamer. Don't sweat it.
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>>542118143
You can go luckyshot for your flat dmg, comes with ammo
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What's your most retarded comeback?
>lose all our T2 by 15 minutes
>behind by 40k souls
>8 deaths average
>low husky voice in VC
>"can you guys stop fucking around already?"
>at 20 minutes
>take a LEAD on souls
>push all their shit in
>3 minutes later we push patron and win
Alchemist btw
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this nigger is jungling while migu pushes our shit in
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>>542119613
I like the voicechat faggots that actually try to lead the game and not the whiny homos that just cry or sigh when someone dies
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>>542119613
PLAP
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I want to play Gun Doorman, but it's clear they're going to nerf that playstyle like they did Ivy, right? They want the characters to fit into nice little "support", "tank", "carry" boxes.
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>>542120706
>Gun Doorman
>playstyle
this fucker can easily land 3 consequtive headshots on you and send you to respawntown in seconds
he's not supposed to be a fucking assassin character, why is his bullet hitbox so big?!
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>>542118760
Use your microphone and/or ping. You can customize your chat wheel and it helps coordinate a lot.
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>>542120864
Hitbox being fixed probably wont help that much since he just builds the instakill items and maxes cart to land every bullet on a stationary stunned target
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>>542105562
I hate how this admittedly hot niggress can just take a walker if left unattended for one second. God I want to fuck her mouth.
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>>542122447
Walkers are too weak. A single creep wave shouldn't take it down to like half health.
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>>542104970
>giving up farm efficiency to have more map presence
it's a support item
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>MikaelS stopped playing competitively to study
Must take some willpower to have a taste of success, be at the top of the game and yet make that kind of decision just a year into it. Some people with far less than that aren't able to stay grounded to reality. Based Finnish autist with good parents I reckon.
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Lash just 1v5ed our entire team
Retards fed him but still. I had similar gold but I was Billy so I'm literally just watching him jump around and getting in one slam a year
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Reminder that the enemy team can hear you even underground.
https://files.catbox.moe/46johw.mp4
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>>542122447
You talk like a nigger
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>>542104973
sinclair's 1 is fun as fuck
calico turning into a cat is cool
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>>542123492
I think creep waves should fuck it up but players shouldn't hurt them much. Make managing waves more important.
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>>542123535
I think he just got burnt out, if he was still into the game I think he could've gambled on this game for a year or two and see if it goes anywhere, and then go to university afterwards
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>>542123605
>flames after frags
cringe
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I fucking hate how Drifter's attack sounds
It's okay once or twice but hearing it constantly gives me an aneurysm
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>>542123849
Sorry, I just really hate Vindicta.
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>>542123894
*shlick shlick shlick*
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>>542123839
He just made a deal with himself and probably his parents to give it a year then sum everything up to conclude on whether it is a sustainable path or not. It wasn't by all metrics and he went on the reliable study path. If the game picks up steam he can just drop anytime and still have those studied years in the pocket. The game is nowhere near finished and he might have gotten internal Valve information about this perspective. That's just a pragmatical man there.
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>>542082347
bring back her old face, she looks weird now
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>>542124821
Uni isn't even that time consuming in Finland since you can go with your own pace, he could definitely still play if he wanted to, but yeah not a bad choice to play it safe
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>>542125045
here you go
-yoshi
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>>542125324
Idk about Finland specifically but I'd guess it depends what studies. Does he not play at all anymore? I haven't verified. Sometimes going cold turkey is the only way to get away from a game's grasp. Addiction is very real.
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https://youtu.be/8HHldejX2zM?
>playing Vindicta vs a fed Sinclair
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>>542125945
Yea definitely, but you can just take less courses and just graduate later here
I haven't stalked too far. But the addiction thing is a good point, this game really took me in last year and made me completely neglect my own studies during that time. Same again this year with the hero patch, I spent a few weeks doing nothing but playing this game again
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>>542125364
im talking bout her model, her portraits always were fugly for some reason
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>>542126564
new one better
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>>542125045
agreed
Im so pissed they gave her billie eilish baby face
she used to look like julie london, which made way more sense because that's THE lounge singer phenotype
retarded calarts ass artists making lash look like a flaming fruit, ivy like a cutesy mascot, and julie london like a baby faced teenager instead of having the beauty standards of the era
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>>542083760
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>>542127005
We’re getting an actual lounge singer eventually though
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>>542127005
geist*
my blood pressure got too high thinking about californians
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>game requires too much using your brain for brown FPS tards that just wanna run directly at the enemy laners non-stop only to end up going 0-5 and ragequitting
>game requires too much braindead adderall FPS laserbeam aim for normal MOBA players
So who the fuck exactly is this game for?
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>entire team up
>with rejuvs
>vs 3 people under a walker
>be Billy
>be the only melee
>continuously ping the walker
>they all sit back behind a wall and do nothing
>we just get systematically picked off
>die
>they push an end on the easiest win in the world
sick
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>>542127957
me
I'm a natural talent and exceed at everything I do
something all deadGAWDS relate to
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>>542127159
>an actual lounge singer
is a digger *cough*, excuse me my french, ixigger
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>>542127957
I have 5k hours in cs and 5k hours in dota, the game is for me
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>>542128351
We call them People of Demonic Origin here buddy
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>>542128376
>both russian-infested games
you can tell deadlock was made specifically for orks
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i fucking fell down to alchimist
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how can people enjoy waiting 6 minutes on queue to fall with nons and retards that will drag you like they drag their knuckles
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>>542128532
I'm southern us east so im just dealing with Brazilian mostly
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>>542128721
>waiting 6 minutes on queue
skill issue
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>>542128376
>>542128224
Yeah well that still isolates the majority of people who only excel at one or the other.
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>>542128902
I have to wait 10-15 minutes usually, and still get put into games with an entire team of players 5 ranks below me
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>>542128943
sick, free 25% damage amp
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>>542129216
You're not funny anon.
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>>542128943
>the majority of people
please provide an example of this "majority"
dota is already BASHED for being chess-level hard by braindead lolfags (with their own watered down CS with hero powers)
who exactly remains here?
apexfags?
I can see them migrating just fine since it's just as sweaty with fuckhuge ttk
OWniggers?
already here
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>>542129296
I thought it was pretty funny
(I made the post)
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>>542128736
What's your ping on average? I thought when randoms spoke english here it was mostly larping. Seems like there might be some mericans then.
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>>542112448
bet he felt like hot shit before he tried to que again only to be banned for 30 minutes then put in low prio
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>>542129958
do you get put into low prio on the first offense?
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>>542130087
yes but not for a long time
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>Another game where my team just broooooowls, loses and then we lose the game
>End up being the only person on my team with sub 5 deaths
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>>542130674
>brool starts near our walker
>moves towards the base
>retards split up and move away from the base chasing single targets
>wiped out because faggots can't duel in neutral territory
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God Yamato is just Calico but worse but she feels so good when she’s fed and I keep searching for that high
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>>542089416
Maxing black hole early is shit, your heal literally handicaps you till its maxed and you only have ult once every 4 minutes
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>BAWBWUBWUBWUBWUB
>STONE FORM! :3
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>started buying Cultist and Spellbreaker on billy every game with no deviation
>suddenly getting way more money + never dying
Why was this the special sauce I don't fucking get it
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this is one of the worst mods I've ever seen
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>>542131798
dotards....
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>>542131798
dotabab training wheels...
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>>542131798
I’m imagining an autistic little dotard clapping his feet together like a big baby, relieved he can finally understand the items
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>>542055132
>match as grey talon
>land every arrow
>feels fucking good
>13 kill streak
>60k damage
>Oh yeah this is my new guy to guy as
>next 5 matches bottom frag and utterly useless
What happened where the mojo go?
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Do we have a "Boots" tier item that every hero has to buy eventually?
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>debuff reducer
>picture of a sword with a red glow
hmm
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>>542131798
>Bloodstone
Wait Infuser just fucking kills you? I'm in
No I will not read Infuser's description
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>>542131798
As a dotard I'm kinda offended that this even exists.
I certainly don't want this
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This game should have a Scepter equivalent, it’s a fun item
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>>542132265
Bloodstone lost the deny ability 7 years ago.
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is this okay?
I really like greater expansion even though it makes her ult ass
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>>542132349
I know what I said nigger
Bloodstone lost its soul 7 years ago
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>teammate complains about Mina
>check enemy Mina build
>multiple gun items
If you complain about a Mina who's spent any souls on gun, you're a shitter
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>>542132265
Bloodstone hasn't had a suicide button for a long time now. It now has an active that gives you extra spell lifesteal or something
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>>542132375
what are you expanding bro just buy cultsac like the rest of 'em
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I've fallen in love with Juggernaut
First tier 4 every game no exceptions
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are the nigger pussy bombs supposed to be unreliable or is there a trick to its spread
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>>542132429
Goddamn poor innocent Viktor is right there and had to hear that
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>>542132654
they're unreliable
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>>542132605
enduring speed > fortitude
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>>542132605
I usually buy Plated Armor instead, seems more effective at reducing damage from M1s (?)
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>>542132801
Oranges>apples
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>>542132860
I buy it for the consistent speed and the bit of regen is nice
The -firing is just a really good bonus
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>>542132513
rake and bats. easier to clip people in execute range and it makes bats go super far, feels good
>cultsac
maybe but it's so lame
>hmmm yes... I think I'll spend my money to be better at doing nothing
LAME
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>>542132928
Green Apples > green oranges
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>>542132375
Swift striker sucks on burst fire weapons and I think the shield items suck but I could be wrong about those
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>>542133013
>I think I'll spend my money to be better at doing nothing
literally expansion bwo
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expansion is only really useful on fire-and-forget kind of shit like alch fire or geist bombs
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Need a reverse expansion item that trades ability range for damage
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>>542133118
on top of the range increase from spirit scaling it makes bats go a million miles. it feels great since mina has to be able to get in and out of rake range. makes that part of her gameplay more consistent
ult users need not apply
>>542133013
>burst fire weapons
?
I'm pretty sure she needs a fire rate splash and burst fire as an item feels bad on her. she doesn't want to be sliding in in 90% of engagements and it costs twice as much
what do you suggest for fire rate?
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>>542133660
>what do you suggest for fire rate?
idk bro uhh lemme see here... cult sac?
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>>542133732
AIIIIIEEEE
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>>542133623
it would have to scale with flat range reduction instead of a percentage then
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>>542133623
more items like weighted shots would be cool
drawbacks are fun so long as they aren't completely negligible and make flimsy excuses for busted bullshit
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Whenever I’m thinking of all the things I need to build on Vindicta I realize I’m building her to not be a useless baboon
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>>542132605
it's literally one of the least efficient money to item ratio items though...
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healbeam vindicta
think about it
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>>542133660
Idki just totally skip fire rate on burst fire guns because it doesnt work 100%
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>>542134149
I go fast
I cripple shooters
I top up better between fights
Builds out of shoes which I always get anyway
Big green item
What more could you want
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>>542134304
mina's gun isn't burst fire
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>>542134149
Howso?
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>>542134415
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>>542134617
>new hero
>only the bottle has textures
jesus christ valve
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>>542134617
wtf
>fire
>a single shot comes out
>call it burst fire
what did they mean by this
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>>542134617
that's either a bug or then they forgot to update the tag, but the gun is definitely not a burst fire gun now
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>play Mirage
>do no damage in lane, but still unkillable thanks to mystic regeneration
>can't farm because clear is dogshit and ricochet is too expensive and lategame
>can MAYBE get a sinners, but if enemy isn't completely retarded, you have to ult away right away, or its bye bye souls bag
>have to farm despite being the worst at it, while constantly missing out on farm because your russian haze got caught in a 1v2 and you have to ult to save her (she dies a minute later in enemy base anyway)
>farm more
>oneshot everything lategame, but by the time it takes you to reach that point, either patron is already weakened and it just doesn't matter
Am I missing something?
Mirage seems like such a fucking mess. They need to make his scarabs bounce between targets or something. This is ridiculous.
CONJURING ARABS!!!!
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>>542134617
I never noticed her gun had a bottle or that her reload animation was a bat flying into it
neat
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>>542131717
Spellbreaker is really strong right now, it basically nullifies nuke gimmick heroes.
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>>542135021
chimp at people with tornado
he's a gank dispenser. afk farm a sidelane while your ult is up and run at people when it's down
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>>542135021
You have to lean into his strengths, he damage sucks so going full damage just brings you to mediocre, he is actually decently tanky so you can get unkillable
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>>542135021
Learn how many mark stacks you need to build up on a nuetral creep to finish it so you can swap to the next creep sooner.
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>>542135021
>jungling as a lane terrorist
you're supposed to kill people you fucking moron
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>>542132375
>Spirit rend
In ideal circumstances it gives: -36% spirit resist to enemies, +8% Spirit lifesteal, +100 bonus health
For 3200 you could buy Spirit Lifesteal + Improved Spirit instead for
24 spirit (+11 more for spirit item bonus), +16% spirit lifesteal, +70 health, and +1.5 Out of combat regen
>Toxic bullets
Buy healbane or decay for healing reduction instead, since those synergize with your kit better.
>Swift Striker
Mina's gun is probably the worst in the game so avoid buying gun items in general.
Kinetic Dash is the only gun item I buy on Mina. I see people using mystic shot but its damage doesn't build up love bites procs so idk why people buy it. Cultist Sac is probably the only gun item other than Kinetic Dash I'd even consider buying on Mina
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>Dead during the 1st wave
>Proceed to throw
I love it when the enemies are tilted.
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>>542135520
how were you 10 kills up but still that close in soul count?
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>>542135440
>so idk why people buy it
great poke, additional burst, scales with spirit
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>>542101603
doorman ulting a guy about to die just so he can get the kill is detrimental to his team.
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does exiting doorman ult interrupt ultimates?
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>>542135637
Well, I understand why people buy it but I think kinetic dash is significantly more useful since it compensates for one of your worst aspects (shit stamina) while mystic shot just gives you some extra damage
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>the only way to have fun and spicen up this unseasoned canned boiled chicken game is using bugs/glitches as unintended 'tech'
Yoshi needs to be tortured
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>>542136108
people just tend to go stam mastery instead
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>>542135868
this behaviour (alongside with bellspam and how giganiggabroken his gun is) made me hate all doorman players
such a cool character brought down by gay cringelords and messy balance
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>>542135440
I might be an aimlet shitter but I feel more consistent with a bit of fire rate. makes it easier for me to burst people down in the mid game
>Spirit rend
huh. I just thought of it as consistent res shred
could skip and pick up some sort of utility
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I heard someone say killing someone while Drifter ult is active gives him stacks regardless of if they're isolated, can anyone confirm if this is true or not?
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>>542131798
Somehow a mod about Dota is anti-dota in nature. It may be trivial but in both games quickly recognizing an item or browsing for it is a skill in itself.
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>>542131798
This is fucking retarded and I play dotes.
>modder gave up on witchmail
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>>542135594
Mirage stayed from 7-9 mins to steal part of the souls.
And we didn't really deny creeps and are just having fun killing them one after another.
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>trying to play with two friends right now
>8 mins no match
>reque
>3 mins no match so far
holy shit its so dead.
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>>542135021
>CONJURING ARABS!!!!
I spit my coffee.
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Why no succubus or brain worm character that can control one of the enemy players?
I mean we have an owl, why can't you remote control a hero?
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>>542136986
Because it's not very fun.
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>>542136986
>mindcontrolling enemy fed haze and killing their own team
holy shit that sounds toxic and cancerous
add it valve.
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>>542136274
you can test this easily in sandbox, it doesn't add stacks unless the enemy hero is isolated period
it will also not add any stacks if you kill two people at the same time with a single rend for example
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>>542136986
One of Shiv's original ults was literally possessing the enemy
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>>542137610
kino
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What kind of character trope do you think will eventually be added to the game?
For me it's the paper boy
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I play
>full spam puddle punches (cdr and range; no damage items)
>full spam dyna stompies (cdr and range; no damage items)
>all slow Ivy (range, both spirit slows, both gun slows)
>all movement and fire rate slow ice beams (no damage items)
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>>542119613
>Behind 30k souls
>The guy with the most souls on our team disconnects
>Once the game is free to leave another guy disconnects
>Win 4v6 with a 40k souls deficit
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>>542135021
>build Fire Rate, Spirit items and Ricochet
>randomly tag people from as far away as possible
>you do zero direct damage but the enemy is never paying attention and don't notice the stacks building on them and explode for 800+ damage
>repeat
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>>542137719
Hippies with power of love & peace.
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>>542138158
Isn't that what's somewhat planned for Boho? Bohemians are proto hippies in a way.
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>>542138152
>build fire rate
>mag empties in 3 seconds
>only x4 stacked
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>the thing character
>can infect one enemy with its ult, ult goes offline and doesn't start CD while the victim lives
>cannot be cleared by any items
>infected hero shares all map info in line of sight with the thing
>can telefrag into the enemy from any point on the map and keep their hero abilities for a short time
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>>542137719
>THROWING MILK
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>>542138387
Just get a Titanic Magazine then.
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>>542110280
I'm never confirming nor denying souls ever again.
Even at the start of Deadlock where soul orbs went to the highest ping, it felt more skillful and balanced that whatever the fuck is going on now.
Just like most mechanics in this game, laning phase means absolutely nothing, so no, I won't sweat over something that doesn't matter.
If soul orbs were fun and/meaningful, I would.
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>>542138421
>Skeleton milkman that makes jokes about bones and calcium
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>>542138709
>laning phase means absolutely nothing
Hello, Seeker.
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>>542138709
sorry you have to play against your opponent now instead of playing competitive kovaaks.
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>>542139027
Projecting
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>>542138273
I mean Boho is literally a 2000s fashion movement combining bohemian and hippie styles. I assume they’ll give her a proper name when releases
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>>542138421
and we still don't know what mad milk is...
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>>542139164
>souls have a biased buffer
Literally no reason to deny
Quite literally no skill involved
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Finally Alchemist :DDDD
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>>542138967
how do you even get an animated skeleton hero?
it's either a lich that wants to get his flesh back (again) or a literal puppet of some necromancer hiding in a different state
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Every laning phase is just who denies more until they get a big enough soul edge to just kill your ass
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>>542108186
That's probably just your bad internet
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>>542139758
while also winning trades, shoving lane, collecting boxes and sinner sacs, fighting over bridge buff, and taking guardian
you are thinking about these things... right?
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>>542139650
I'd see him more as a chaotic good guy. He loves being a skeleton, not bothered anymore by the frailty of his flesh and wishes everyone to become one too.
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>>542139758
>soul edge
damn, we need a hero with a cursed sword/gun that forces him to kill people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p1yaNC1mNg
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>>542138152
>do no damage
>late game do some extremely delayed damage
I like the idea but it sucks.
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>>542140231
So Yamatogeist
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>>542139650
working class joe who outlived his necromancer and doesn't give a fuck about anything
cynical jokester who doesn't take anything seriously. think that one middle age burn out at the bar who is funny and friendly but clearly a bit bitter
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When the fuck is minas ULT gonna get fixed? Silence on every hit is insane.
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>>542137091
Forcing other people to have no fun is fun. (within reason)
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>skillshots that are entirely up to the user to miss
vindicta's entire kit except stake, paradox swap and carbine, doorman bell (explosion), talon charge and ult,holliday barrel (airborne), haze sleep, vyper bola
>sound effect reaction test
bebop hook, sinclair bolt, viscous fist, yamato slash, vyper and shiv knife
>please don't dodge
calico bombs, doorman bell (direct hit), drifter mark, holliday barrel (ground), ivy, kelvin, geist, warden nades, paige (paige), pocket, seven ball, viscous splat (both, split shot doesn't count)
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>>542140569
Okay Moron and Queer
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>>542139650
Please understand, Blizzard invented the Skeleton character and therefore nobody else is allowed to use it
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>>542140438
nah, the wielder has to be a good natured
>I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS
>PLEASE STOP
>RUN AWAY, I CAN'T CONTROL IT
kind of person that will cry after every kill and had to force himself into the whole wish granting patron war business as a last resort
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>>542140795
this but an innocent and pure futa with a massive cock
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>>542140863
Paige?
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>>542140795
I dunno, I get the appeal of someone apprehensive about it like Pocket, but what are his killstreak voice lines gonna be? Crying?
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>>542140795
we've already got pocket
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>Boot up Deadlock
>Mom asks to help her with the living room stereo
>Leave
>Come back
>Turns out I queued up the game and forgot about it, so I was now AFK for 2 in-game minutes
>Our guardian was down before I got to my lane
We still won, but this was really embarrassing.
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>>542136254
His entire kit is mega borken, If the doornigger isn't a complete retard 1v1'ning him is genuinely impossible. Bell fucks accuracy and nukes you, cart nukes and sends you away incase he's losing, door to fuck off to the other side of the map instantly, and in case you still somehow managed to lose a 1v1 with your impossible to miss missile you just ult them and walk away. The most braindead chromie friendly character in the game, it's genuinely impossible to not be useful as doornigger, even if you just ult and it's a -1, and if you refresher then.... just fucking end.
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>>542140925
>but what are his killstreak voice lines gonna be
sobbing and lamenting, except those are crocodile tears because the guy is actually a bipolar schizo and the curse doesn't exist
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>>542141292
>woosh stake bird bababababaaba charge bang
problem, officer?
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>>542137994
Get mystic reverb on dynigger and be ultra cancer.
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>>542141292
>it's genuinely impossible to not be useful as doornigger
you underestimate our playerbase
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>>542140795
Paige should of been this.
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OFFICIAL TIERLIST RELEASED
>OFFICIAL TIERLIST RELEASED
OFFICIAL TIERLIST RELEASED
>OFFICIAL TIERLIST RELEASED
OFFICIAL TIERLIST RELEASED
>OFFICIAL TIERLIST RELEASED
Unethical:
>Kelvin
>Mina
>Paradox
>Abrahams
>Infernus
>Shiv
100% fair and honorable:
>Drifter
>Dynamo
>Miku
>Seven
/dlg/ BTFO ONCE AGAIN
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>>542141287
when the fuck are these dumb ass devs going to add an accept button for the queue?
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>I CAN'T CONTAIN IT!
our response, non-dynamo bros?
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>>542140561
I thought for sure that would have been the actual nerf to her ult.
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>>542141672
>gun patch
>suddenly infernus is good
なんだこれわ。。。
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>>542141683
Work on your stamina, buddy
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>>542141805
>>542141805
>>542141805
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>>542141683
Lose weight you fat fuck professor
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>>542141750
>わ
Fucking kill yourself weeb trash
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>>542140231
Could be a machine demon thing

I forget where i saw it but there's a short story about a machine demon that exists at the end of time. It will visit you in dreams or visions and demand you create it. Its existence is an inevitability so if you dont obey it will resurrect you at the end of time for an eternity of punishment
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>>542141453
You need curse for him and need to kill him within the time frame, otherwise given that he doesn't need many items he can just get e-shift or any other item to keep him alive.
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>>542141750
I taught myself a little bit of Japanese (the kana and ~500 Kanji), so I can read this :)
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>>542142172
I sure hope you didn't learn how to read 500 kanji and didn't learn any grammar at all
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And my students think theoretical metaphysics have no practical applications!
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>>542141672
What do pros dislike about Dynamo? He seems fantastic
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>>542141672

>so much dynamo disrespect
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>>542142332
High rank games are extremely fast paced and Dynamo is a slow burner
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>>542141672
I'm surprised to see grey talon as low as he is.
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>>542141672
all my heroes are 4 or lower...
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>>542142005
I forget は isn't wa sometimes xddd
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>>542142379
Does rushing ult skill+duration+range not work in their games?
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>>542144820
No
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>>542144874
I should watch them then, curious how cancer the meta is at high level.
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>>542145005
A few kills with waves at a decent place and most of your team close to the blue lane at 15 minutes is usually the first midboss in high rank/pro games, they usually close the match out at 25-30
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>>542142379
maybe he'll be better if the devs adress the snowbally nature of the game right now. Because I sure as fuck don't want to see dynamo buffs.
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>>542141672
>Yamato
>6
>In a gun patch
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>>542145149
Her gun is good.
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>>542145146
>adress
english first language btw
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What the hell, was wraith always this hot?
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>>542142332
4 minute ult cooldown thats easy as fuck to avoid
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>>542146214
She'd be played more if the coat was removed.
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>>542146214
they buffed her sex appeal
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>Wraith
>awesome gun
>spammable nuke
>good speed
>team steroid/damage amp
>can teleport
>also has stun/disarm/silence that becomes aoe

Why don't they just give her a free cultist dagger to start with?
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>>542148743
because shes balanced when they don't make guns strong the same patch they nerf spirit.
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>>542148743
the character is text book league of legends slop. it's also a black criminal that scams people, so maybe icefrog is tipping his hand
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>>542136028
no, which is why I don't feel as bad when Doorman ults me and I play as Infernus or Warden
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>>542140605
>doorman bell
>airborne holiday barrel
>talon ult
How do you miss these
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>>542153649
>doorman bell
not realising you can shoot it (aka new doorman)
>airborne holiday barrel
being a new holiday
>talon ult
no idea, enemy has to have a movement ability/item.
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>>542140605
how the fuck do you miss viscous 1 that shit hits through walls



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