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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8715 - jpfags are retarded and Sonic needs to be handled by the West Edition

==NEWS==
>Shadow Racing: CrossWorlds - Accolades Trailer
https://youtu.be/C6BSu_x0gcE

>Shadow Dash - McLaren Event Trailer
https://youtu.be/elw3Ktdu8Hc

>SAGExpo 2025
https://www.sagexpo.org/

>Mobile card game Sonic Blitz
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk

>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary - 22 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 19 November 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 17 December
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 14 January 2026
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 28 January 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 4 March 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone
https://tails.kicks-ass.net/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OCs:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixels:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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>>542148360
>mindbroken
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>>542148360
Gigabased OP.
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Another westchad victory
Too easy
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krack!
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>Sonic handled by the west
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>>542148360
i will accept the west if we get a SatAM reboot. i shant accept any uwu hellokitty with lgtv dogshit pandering
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Blade of Courage flopped, that's undeniable.
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I like Tails...
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>>542148481
The MOST successful, HIGHEST rated media portrayal of Sonic is western. JP Purists have never stopped seething about it.
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Yes, let's let the West handle Sonic so we can have more kino like this.
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>>542148297
It's like Bubsy somehow gained some of Sonic's immortality powers. No clue how that happened. It's not like there's a giant R34 scene for him either.
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That's nice sweetie, but you know that 4chan isn't so much anonymous as you think, right?
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>>542148360
This very fundamental reason is why the sonic franchise has been floundering for the past 30 years. The majority of the franchise is being carried by the west and the west only produces shit and so this is the result. If you can get a foothold with the japanese playerbase it will motivate them to make good sonic games.

>ERM BUT DEVS ARE JAPANESE

no shit, only a handful of them are putting in the bare minimum soulless shit. they have no drive or motivation to put out anything more
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Douge
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x characters so quite well on the poll.

Not as good as SATAM.

http://allourideas.org/soniccharacters
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>>542148557
Team Sea3on is doing God's work.
>>542148675
This, but unironically.
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>>542148721
That's probably the samechad avatarfagging with Sonic X pics
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Fuck bubsy, this is the sonic killer
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>>542148675
Archie Sonic was a small comic that never thwarted anything Sonic as much as '06 or Shadow shit did though.
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>>542148727
>U NO RIKE BOOSTO HARRWAYS?!?
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>>542148540
FUCKING GROSS WHO DREW THAT!?
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FYI there are Japanese people who like MMPR more than Zyuranger.

There are japanese people who prefer Boom and Prime to X
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>>542148540
>posts the Japanese character who was the other biggest joke about 06, a Japanese game
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>>542148360
Sonic is hard carried by autistic western gay furries that doesn't make it any better c'mon.
What's worse is those same western gay furries are turning into a Puritan, they get uncomfortable seeing Amy's cute white Panties! This is horrible!
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>>542148540
>>542148959
Dont even try to push this stupid joke
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>>542148727
Only way to get a foothold with the japanese playerbase is to make all the Sonic character into anime waifus with lots of fanservice and pantyshots
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god i need a wife like her, fuuuuuuuuck
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"Fixing" Silver is an interesting topic but it won't actually change him. It's time to stop making excuses
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>>542148540
>you hate waffles, well then you must like pancakes!
I like the true western Sonic, the movies.
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>>542148926
06 wasn't anyone's fault but the retards at the top of Sammy. Sonic Team was a casualty.

The SEGA merger was the worst thing that could have happened.
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Of course our resident tranny is pushing the lame Evan joke.
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>>542148959
The west. Evan Stanley. Who the IDWfags want to control the franchise.
SoA cannot be trusted with Sonic until the slobs are cleansed from the series (Bumbleking clique and IDW writers).
Sonic needs old American ideas revisited from a Japanese lens. Not Americans failing to understand and interpret Japanese ideas.
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>>542149068
What? Isn't that Evans art? It is not a joke
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>>542149151
For supposedly the worst part of Sonic, they sure can't stop talking about it.
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>>542148643
JP Purists have cope with IDW being more popular than the manga.

JP Purists have to cope with the Flynn games being more successful than the Maekawa games

JP Purists have to cope with Prime being canon over Sonic X

JP Purists have to cope with Movienic being the most popular depiction of Sonic and MUH WIND being an autistic characterfag cope
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>>542149108
Silver doesn't need to be "fixed" he just need more focus and attention from Sega itself and that's what he is not getting
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>>542149214
The movies are still the highest rated and most well received piece of Sonic media regardless of how pathetically you melt down over that fact.
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>>542148626
I don't get where his legs are supposed o be.
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What's wrong with this dyke?
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>>542148540
Evan can draw humans. They just look like potatoes like her.
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>blade of courage flopped and was btfo’d by IDW
>Crossworlds flopped (inb4 Switch 2 cope)
>not a single Sonic game has crossed 50K units sold on release week in Japan
It’s over. Sonic doesn’t fucking sell in the east. He fucking doesn’t you useless retards.
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only goon slop can save this franchise
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Sonic X literally shits all over the modern games.
It's THAT good.
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>>542149415
What you're trying to say is that Sonic games were never any good.
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>>542149151
Violet? I thought he was Windpilled?
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>>542149325
There are no jp purists though. No one in japan gives a shit about sonic. Everything is happening in the west. Sonic's presence in the japanese playerbase is nonexistent.
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>>542149427
Why do the human have man faces?
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>>542149325
Sonic has never been more popular and the west has never been so involved as they are now. The writing is on the fucking wall for anyone with eyes.
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>>542149416
The ai fucked up
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>>542149415
I don't meltdown over this fact. I like the movies.
The issue is SoA isn't related to the movie's creative staff or their success.
If we had Fowler and actual movie talent at SoA ready to make a game, I'd say sure, let them cook.
The issue is that SoA is a shell of its former 90s peak and it is now primarily a vehicle for the slobs and Iizuka to push their version of Sonic.
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>>542149427
Why do the women have man faces?
>>542149559

Sorry I needed to fix that.
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SoA should sponsor Team Sea3on
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>>542149384
He's gotten plenty of that. When he gets more, I doubt those who don't accept him will change anyway
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>>542149427
>That Wonder Woman
This can't be real, is it a cosplay story? Is someone else dressed as her?
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No one in Japan gives a fuck about Sonic.
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>>542149082
Well that worked for Bomberman.
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>>542149606
I'm pretty sure it's one of those yume, but she just attached the feet. lol
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>>542149116
>SEGASammy rebranded as Sammy's Entertainment and Games Association.
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Would you let him taste you?
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>>542148540
It's an improvement from brown Dominican Sonic, she have much to learn
>>542149427
Oh man it looks like she's too Tumblr poisoned for this
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>>542149745
They had a pretty good point there with that last one, but it's the merit, yeah.
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>>542149817
sauce?
are they selling sega to saudi arabia?
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Paps defended Evan's humans saying it is just a style.
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>>542149923
A tumblrina style, sure.
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>>542149446
>>not a single Sonic game has crossed 50K units sold on release week in Japan
SA1 sold 170K+ in Japan on release week. SA2 did almost 90K in Japan on release week.

Why the fuck are we just lying now? For what benefit?
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>>542149082
This so much this, and make the cute little boys crossdress for my sick entertainment
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>>542149427
>least vulgar rennaisance clothing
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>>542149108
Silver is actually fine as intended he just needs to be conveyed/explained better. The problem is ST makes him out as "Mysterious" which just makes him come off as vague and needing to be filled in rather than there being answers they haven't revealed yet.
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Japan doesn’t like Sonic. Stop discussing japshit
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>>542149841
Only if i taste him.
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>>542150108
but my second coming of maekawa.....
but my flynn ooc is deleting my sonamy.....
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>>542149863
That is only an improvement because she was trying to copy UNO's style.
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>>542149923
Paps is fucking obnoxious and unironically stalks a lot of Sonic fans on Twitter just to start shit and be buttbuddies with other retarded old guard classicshitters. I remember seeing a pic of his face and he looks like a pedophile.
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>>542150181
This is what japniggertards don’t get. ANYTHING Sega tries won’t stop Japan from hating Sonic at its core
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>>542150058
Sonic Team also wants Shadow to be "Mysterious" but he actually got backstory lore
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>>542149920
Not real, but funny if it happens.
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>>542150201
Quit making shit up, you projecting ugly faggot.
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>>542150201
>he looks like a pedophile.
He had drawn loli before and unironically thinks dubbing shows and animes is equivalent to murdering babies, so that's not really far off.
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>>542150008
Congratulations. You have a game that's almost 25 years old.
A quarter century has passed since Japan cared about Sonic.
That's a fucking problem.
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>>542150201
This was his defence https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/148688791/#148692830
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>WOAH WHISPER SO COOL PLEASE JOIN MY LOSER BAND PLEASE!!
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>>542149427
Why does Evan look so unhappy in every picture of her?
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06 was CHADow's game btw.
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>>542150058
That's why Uwuver is the best silver. Sega isn't competent enough to buy mysterious characters
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>>542150301
For as much as these braindead retards glaze Blade of Courage, it not selling well should have been the smoking gun to get them to shut the fuck up.
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>>542150352
Hi Evan.
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>the pure, tard rage seethe from anti-JPfags ITT
Spamming and making a seethe OP won't make you look like any less of an upset shitter.
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>>542150008
Anon, that was a long time ago when the image of sonic in japan still held some kind of meaning. Fast forward to now with all the games that has come out and how the culture and times have shifted since then, no japanese cares anymore. Sonic has lost its presence in japan.
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>>542150478
You don't even know what Uwuver is.
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>>542150201
Who the hell is paps?
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>>542150428
You wanna know what's EXTRA funny about that? They said this.

Japan doesn't even want their "best" games.
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Last thread was mostly collapse and this thread started with a culture war (again)
what happened last thread? who got trolled?
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My two cents on the US vs JP debate is that a blended canon like what happened in SA1 is the best way to approach everything.

The movies cherrypick hard and they're all the better for it. Sonic has some great highlights and the key is to focus on those.
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>>542150860
What the fuck is Virgin eating?
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>>542150860
One anon said he didn't like Roger, another said to play in Japanese, to which they rightly asked why? And then uh... all this.
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>>542148727
cope
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>>542150667
Mauro Fonseca
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>>542150912
cnc
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Hmmmmm.
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>>542150667
This is why SEGA doesn't listen to fans. Sonic fans would kill the franchise if they directed it.
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>>542150462
they won't let her save Silver
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>>542150931
It's almost like we need a union of Sonic continuities... A Sonic Union. A reimagining of the series' status quo that can appeal to both western and eastern fans.
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>>542150998
>another said to play in Japanese, to which they rightly asked why?
So you can play the game without hearing the voice you don't want to hear?
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>>542151128
Why is Amy called an ape instead of a human you dork?
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>>542151128
We already have that with the Movies. It takes the best of both sides of Sonic.
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>>542151036
Jeez, he's a movie blob type
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>>542151192
Because all 'human' mobians are called apes.
Humans don't exist in Sonic Union but they do exist in Shadow Cross.
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>>542151139
I dont claim to get it, I'm just telling you what I know.
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>>542151128
I understand now why boom gave sonic all those bandages and a scarf. a tall blue arms sonic looks like felix the cat. like looks too cutesy for what he is supposed to be
should have kept his tan arms and kept everyone shorter. specially knuckles. boom knuckles is a felony

>0WWSH
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Stop trying to "own" people around here, nobody is mad and nobody is seething.

*snort*
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'ge
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>>542150201
Paps gave us Stiletto so I can't be mad.
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>>542150860
Out of touch jpfag asked nonjpfag to learn Japanese to interact with the only one Sonic fan that exists in Japan
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>>542150709
>looks it up
>taking shit out of context from a FUCKING HEADLINE
SEGA/Iizuka doesn't want to make an Adventure remake, retard. That's what they're saying.
>Not only does Iizuka claim Adventure remakes/remasters are not something currently in development at Sega, but his answer suggests they never will be. "Instead of using all that time and energy to remake a game that people have already experienced, we could make a brand new game instead," Iizuka explained.
Iizuka has said MULTIPLE TIMES NOW that he'd rather make new games than remake old ones. You're a lying, disingenuous faggot trying to push made-up narratives on the fly with each retarded, easily debunked post you shit out from your retarded monkey ass.
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>>542151509
>i'm a braindead coomer
Didn't ask.
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>>542151406
>>542151494
Sexmunks!
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Has Evan improved human art?
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>>542151406
Elias is getting sloppy top from his male human subject
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>>542150667
>image
Do you want this franchise to be healthy, or do you want it to keep a low budget title series that barely works, at best?
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I find it weird that Paps defends Evan's humans when he can draw humans decently.
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>>542151645
This looks better than the potato league. When was this?
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>>542151645
Evidently not but why should I care, It's not like they're ever bringing humans back
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>>542151550
I like how you're still seething about that. Just learn Japanese, bro.

Until you can read this image, you're a failure that your whore mother should have aborted.
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>>542151794
2022
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I do find it funny how Hope and Shadows relationship was a complete coincidence writing wise.
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>>542151580
>Iizuka has said MULTIPLE TIMES NOW that he'd rather make new games than remake old ones.
Yet they remade Colors and Generations for profit with no issue.
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>>542151834
Obvious bait or you're just retarded
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>>542151902
A happy accident.
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>>542151790
All the comics alumni vehemently defend each other even when they're blatantly wrong because they know each other irl.
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>>542148786
Shadow loves Maria
Rouge loves Knuckles
Stop spamming your shitty headcanon
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>>542151686
Always with the scenarios this fuckin guy
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>>542151908
Those are remasters, not remakes
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>>542151580
>Instead of using all that time and energy to remake a game that people have already experienced, we could make a brand new game instead,"
Not that anon but these motherfuckers have been recycling and splashing paint on things for a long time now. Give me my Adventure remakes slash remasters for modern hardware
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boys with tits
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REAL!
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>>542151926
Are you too dumb to learn a new language? Just admit it, anon.
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>>542151846
He is cute cute <3
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>>542151580
>You don't understand, SEGA and Izuka arent interested in making money
I'm starting to understand why this has been a budget series for so long.
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>>542151686
So what's sperging on 4chan gonna contribute to the series. DO you buy all the games? Watch all the movies in cinemas? Buy all the comics? If not then stfu
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Jpfags need to fuck off for good
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>>542152021
those are remakes because the games were remade from ground up. they still look the same because they use the same assets.... and probably same settings. those games never needed to be remade. colors needed to be ported from the wii and that's it
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>>542151827
LITERALLY WRONG YOU DORK!
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The truth no one wants to hear is that there's no significant demand for Adventure remakes. People may like the stories or some other aspects of these games but they're still seen as significantly flawed games
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>>542151790
Paps looks like this >>542151036 so he probably has MovieBob orbiter situation going on with her. Though he's not as socially retarded as Bob.
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I've never seen someone quite explain why Sonic is too "western" for the Japanese audience but Mario isn't
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>>542151902
Better than IDW.
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>>542152249
(You)
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>>542152303
Exactly. No one wants Windnic because Widnic never sells.
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>>542152296
What game or comic is she in bro?
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>>542148360
I miss Riders.
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>>542152423
>u no rike kartsrop?!
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>>542152351
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Why do posts keep getting deleted?
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>>542152303
I feel this way about SA2. I love SA1 and I go back to it regularly, but SA2 I don't go back to nearly as much

>>542152346
Japan hates furries and Sonic isn't cutesy enough for Japan either, and consumer trust is pretty important in Japan which is something Sega is horrendous at. That's the basic gist of it, Sonic just doesn't really suit japan all that much and Sega has long screwed up any chance of makiong him work there. Also the mega drive flopped hard there back then
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>>542152346
Mario is more Western than Sonic is. Nintendo is popular in Japan, and SEGA was never popular outside of their Arcade facilities. Yuji Naka also said that Sonic was never advertised well in Japan outside of SA1. It's as simple as that.
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Remember. It took crossing over with western properties for Japan to even kind of care about Crossworlds. Thanks, Spongebob.
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>>542152346
It's not clear why the Japanese are so averse towards Sonic. There's just something about him that's fundamentally unappealing to them. It's weird because a lot of other "western" media is way more successful than Sonic in Japan so it can't be just that
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There would be really amazing official sonic mangas with ongoing sagas by now...just saying...
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>>542151036
I honestly thought Paps was a woman before I saw this.
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>>542152613
>Japan hates furries
no they don’t, and Mario wears fursuits almost every game
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>>542152686
>It's not clear why the Japanese are so averse towards Sonic
When was the last good, non-boost game again?
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SatAM Renaissance when?
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>Team Sonic
>Team Rose
>Team Dark
>Team Chaotix
>Eggman Empire
>Team Dimensions
>Deadly Six
>Babylon Rogues

How will Sonic Team/IDW pander to each group?
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>>542152340
Dude is really a stereotypical looking neckbeard, lol.
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>>542152346
>>542152686
The series didn't have a strong initial marketing push in Japan
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>>542152834
Probably never
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>>542152303
>there's no significant demand for Adventure remakes
There's significant demand for Shadow. There's no reason as to why they should not remake SA2
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>>542152627
>Yuji Naka also said that Sonic was never advertised well in Japan outside of SA1
That doesn't really explain why it still hasn't gotten an audience in Japan, the series is 35 years old. Series that have had bad starts have managed to gain an audience over time in Japan. Sonic has failed to do so because the games are not good.
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>>542152834
Team Sea3on is working on it right now. Go support them.
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>>542152767
Ok maybe not hate, but most of the Otaku and Weeb spaces there don't really like furry stuff too much. Occasionally you'll have a hit like Beastars but most of the time nips and weebs prefer humans over actual furries
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>>542152303
Sonic has the best gameplay in those two games, and most Sonic fans currently want alternate playable characters. People have been asking for Adventure remakes since the 2010s and for SA3 since even longer. It's why it gets brought up to Iizuka in interviews every few months.
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>>542152950
Why remake SA2 when everyone and their mother already has heard Shadow's backstory a million times?
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>>542152346
Mario is consistent and generally high quality
Sonic is inconsistent and esoteric
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>>542152950
>There's no reason as to why they should not remake SA2
Yes there is. Do you really believe the current team has what it takes to even do it half well? That's the real reason. They wouldn't be able to come back from fucking those up and they know they would.
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>>542152834
oh my god thats disgusting
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>>542152834
So handsome...
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>unintentional ragebait
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>>542152883
>Eggman Empire
Eggdad slop.
>Team Dimensions
Shipping slop. Add Marine for more shipping slop.
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>>542153062
As soon as it stops making an absurd amount of money each time they do it, Im sure they'll stop. Ope. But they did just file another trademark, so it doesn't look like the well is drying up anytime soon.
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>>542153045
Frontiers already brought back the playable characters. Also no one really wants a return to the Sonic Adventure approach of every character having it's own gameplay gimmick come on now

>People have been asking for Adventure remakes since the 2010s and for SA3 since even longer. It's why it gets brought up to Iizuka in interviews every few months.
Yeah people who are nostalgic for these games. General audiences don't care.
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>>542153339
>General audiences don't care.
Is that why Movie 3 is sitting at a 95% user score? Because they don't care?

I'm pretty sure it's this:>>542153129
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>>542153385
Shadow and Sally
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>>542153339
>Also no one really wants a return to the Sonic Adventure approach of every character having it's own gameplay gimmick come on now
I do, Adventure handles them better than Frontiers.
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>>542153304
Then just make more Shadow games with original stories. There's no need to revisit his backstory for the bazillionth time
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>>542152686
You're making things up in your head. Sonic and SEGA's console division as a whole wasn't marketed well, as the push to make them popular was almost nonexistent, so Sonic never became well-known. It has nothing to do with Japan having an imaginary "innate aversion" to it, which doesn't even make sense. SA1 and 2 sold well on release week, and Sonic did decently in the arcades in the 90s, so that right there already debunks your weird "aversion" claims you're trying so hard to push.

The long and short of it is that SEGA never knew what the hell it was doing. It's not complicated. Stop trying to craft superstitious narratives and just see it for what it is.
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>>542152767
>>542152990
Sonic is demographically confused. It's generally written like shonen but marketed towards very young children(especially in Japan) and maintain E ratings for all but like two games. Every popular anthro centric thing in Japan is way more violent than Sonic. I think even Happy Tree Friends has a larger following over there.
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I personally don't care if Japan likes Sonic or not
It is Sega who cares way too much to "win Japan over" when it does not work. At this point they should already know their actual audience by now
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>>542153434
I already said in my original post that people like aspects of these games like the story and OST but not the games as a whole. Movie 3 being based around SA2's story doesn't change what I'm saying
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Remake Adventure 2 and Heroes but purely from Shadow's POV.
Ending is the opening to ShTH, which is the next game remade.
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Who the fuck are those robotic hybrid versions of tails, amy, and knuckles in crossworlds? Someone's OC?
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>>542153339
This feels similar to what journalists were saying about Sonic 4 Episode 1 in 2010. It's just the nostalgic nerds who wanted actual classic gameplay, no one wants the games to actually be good.
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>>542153496
>they didn't show us why the hell would tails turn his body into a tin can
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So can we start petitioning for the replacement of the current voice cast? They're all retirement aged fossils voicing teens and that's really weird. I'm not asking that teenagers play these roles, just that we get VAs that can sound like that range.
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>>542153658
SA2 has the best gameplay in the series to this day.
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>me after 2 days of rails + shadouge porn spamming
So you decided to kill me?
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>>542153657
That's the thing though, the west has been carrying the franchise this whole time so far and the sonic games that have come out since then have been spotty at best with no consistency or polish to them. You have a small amount of japanese devs with no passion of sonic playing telephone with an audience that is foreign to them. It's just bad all around.
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>>542153657
>At this point they should already know their actual audience by now
Their target demo is 6-12, which like Sonic.exe. we'd have a vastly different Sonic from what EVERYONE wants if they catered to their main demo.
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>>542153835
Ok. You believe that. Very few share your opinion however
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>>542153991
Oh, so you're baiting, then.
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>>542153967
The simple truth is the series is run by out of touch old men.
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this was the second best crossover this franchise had
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If heritage was the only way to gain a following then nothing new would ever be able to enter tough markets, which Sonic himself was created and born into
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>>542154128
Yes. And that's why its not selling in Japan. Japan loves trendchasing. If you have these fucking mummies keep running things, youll never win Japan over.
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>>542153910
Have american devs instead and SoJ just overlooking the project
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>>542154171
The hard truth everyone is ignoring is that new IPs have been consistently out performing Sonic for years now in Japan.

Splatoon anyone?
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>>542154151
It was alright but not much of a plot. ended too fast. Shadow met the Joker
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>>542154109
I'm not baiting. No one is asking for a return of emerald hunting and mech stages in a mainline game. The common opinion about SA2's gameplay I hear is that the Chao garden is great and it's the best part of the game. That's it
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>>542154343
and the plethora of indie games clearing him too
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>>542153991
There's no way you're being serious. It is one of the most common opinions around. Usually it's either SA2, 3&K, or Generations, that people consider to have the best gameplay.
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>>542154151
Is this your reward for getting a vasectomy, anon? Be honest.

>>542154343
I'd imagine telling your audience that indie games are even going better doesn't put a lot of faith in the brand either.
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The modern fandom actually just wants emotional porn, interconnected lore, shipping, melodrama, alternate universes, edgy slop, emotional vulnerability, etc. They basically just want Archie.
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>>542153910
>That's the thing though, the west has been carrying the franchise this whole time so far
However, Sonic Boom was a failed western rebrand, and everyone was shitting on Paramount before Tyson Hesse fixed Sonic's look.
The truth is, Sonic is lucky to even be around, East or West.
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>>542154417
You haven't been listening much then. I only ever heard that opinion from some guy on YouTube, and everyone shat on him for being retarded and fundamentally misunderstanding how the Chao Garden even works. What is usually praised the most about SA2 are the speed stages, with greatly varying opinions on the two other styles. The Chao Garden is just a bonus to encourage you to replay the stages.
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>>542154479
I'm seeing more and more people say that SA2 was a downgrade from SA1 and that it's overrated. Also even those who like SA2 often don't consider it "the" best in the series
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sonic's greatest legacy will always be the mainstream acceptance of furry porn
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>>542154496
>Is this your reward for getting a vasectomy
lol
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>>542154631
The real elephant in the room is that no one knows what makes a sonic game good. Probably ever. Sonic exists in this weird nebulous state where it is never quite fully one thing or another and it just does not do enough to stick well.
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>>542154425
>>542154496
I was gonna say, "yeah but indie sonic games are never finished" but really. When was the last time a mainline game felt like it was truly finished?
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>>542153716
I'm gonna say it again, Since Sonic can't be two characters, Tails should have been Superman and Knuckles should have been Martian Manhunter
Also the DC crossover feels more like an excuse to sell DC themed Merch rather than a fun crossover
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>>542154747
When normies remember SA2 they're usually like "wow I remember raising the little Chao thingies it was so fun" that's the extent of their memories of the gameplay
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>>542153657
You're a retard that doesn't get it. SEGA is a Japanese company based in Japan; the only thing they're ever going to care about is how well their franchises are doing in their home country. If Sonic takes off in Japan, that means more devs will be attracted to it and want to work on Sonic games, which maximises employee counts and boosts the company. If that never happens, Sonic will always stay a budget franchise. If you want this to change, either become a SEGA shareholder and advise them on ways to MAKE it popular in its home country (putting more money into ad campaigns), or get hired at SoA and try to worm your way up the ladder and somehow convince your Japanese overlords to let the West have a larger stake in the Sonic franchise.

Since I know you won't do either, I suggest you shut up, sit down, and go back to crankin' it to your Rouge the Bat porn and stop whining on this Vietnamise Paper Folding Forum all day.
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>>542154547
why use some oc when you have scourge
right there
take it
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sonic's greatest legacy will be all the foot porn ive smacked off to
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>>542154847
I know what causes this by being here. Sonic keeps selling because he has enough of all of us.

>JPfags.
Guaranteed to buy ANY Japanese game, regardless of quality

>Windfags
Will buy anything if its "windy" enough

>Westfags
Have the movies, and some retards and trannies have the comics.

Sega is doing the best they ever have because theyre actually appealing to us all, bust just barely.
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>>542155017
>Ashura
>some OC
Get out and never return
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>>542152883
>Sonic
They listen and respect lesbians
>Rose
NPCs
>Dark
The only good group they will pander to
>Chaotix
NPCs
>Eggman
Eggdad family drama
>Dimensions
Shipping slop
>Deadly Six
Will randomly get zeti lore for two issues and then get vaulted
>Babylon Rogues
Will randomly get babylon lore for two issues until they get turned into fodder to glaze IDW ocs
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>>542155017
Scourge came from Ashura
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i liek sonic mania :3
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>>542148360
The only good American Sonic content was AOSTH and Mania.
>ackshully Sonic 2 and 3&K were made by Ameri-
Made by majority Japanese employees who told the American staff to fuck off.
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>>542155171
>bust just barely
That typo reminded me, that only appeal theyre taking away is the sexual appeal to try ward off gooners. They lopped off Rooj's tits just for that.
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>>542155362
based
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>>542154932
If you had ever tried to play the Chao Garden you would know that you can't play it without playing the main game. And no, it is the speed stages that are always praised. Not everyone cares for the Chao Garden.
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>>542155195
>>542155346
ashura wasn't that black
also it was a glitch not a completely different character
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>>542155376
Which Japanese game has above a 95% user score, anon?
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>Roboticizing all japan purists
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Isn't it sad how most games in the series are just severely downgraded versions of Final Rush from Sonic Adventure 2? They completely ruined the rail grinding mechanics and made entire games based around them.
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>>542155567
>I-i didn't know
Then don't speak unless you do
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>>542155668
didn't i?
not my problem the colours were reverted
and surge is green because of?
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>>542155578
>this moviecuck again
Why are you riding Pedowood slop so hard, anon?
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>>542155376
Disingenous post
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>>542155805
Because none of you gay little games come even close, nigger. You can die mad arguing the wall.
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>>542155665
Sonic Team as it exists now are fucking awful at game design, but no one wants to have that conversation. Shad Gens is only decent because Sonic Team didn't make it.
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>>542153665
Sonic Prime characters
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>>542155934
>Sonic Team didn't make it.
I might actually buy that one then. I didn know that. How annoying is the boost?
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>>542155774
Are you a child or a fool?

>But I did
You didn't know and you were corrected
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>>542155934
Shadow Generations was developed by Sonic Team.
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>>542155934
>Shad Gens is only decent because Sonic Team didn't make it.
But they did?
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>>542156110
>>542156128
Thanks fir clarifying. I almost made a mistake getting it
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>>542156110
>>542156012
I think he meant that Kishimoto's team wasn't involved. Shadow Generations was developed by another team of devs within the Sonic Team studio led by Shigihara
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>>542156012
>How annoying is the boost?
That depends on what you mean by annoying, the game is still a boost game by foundation, but the Doom Powers are what the game is designed around and they are often used to create fun platforming sections.
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It's kinda funny when you can tell someone hasn't played a game from the things they say about it
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>>542156279
I mean is it basically free to get boost?
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>>542156128
>>542156110
Look at the credits and read the actual names of the devs. No it wasn't.
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>>542152303
I don’t need remakes of those games I just want those characterizations back
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I love everyone, sthg are my frens
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>>542153991
If Sonic Adventure 2 is so hated, how come it's consistently the most played game on Steam?
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>>542156436
Explain
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>>542156692
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MAKE
HER
CANNON
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<3
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Tails?
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>>542156819
one day you'll be me friend
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>>542156254
Apparently Kishimoto is considered the entirety of Sonic Team to that anon. If he doesn't make a game, then it's not Sonic Team-made.
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Remember to ignore and report them.
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this >>542156445 is what I mean when I said >>542154582
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>>542157452
>ignore
>report them
what then
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>>542157193
>>542157204
No, lemon the fox.
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>>542157204
Yes, I want three Tailses' please. Make it quick I'm outta time
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>>542154582
>They basically just want Archie
They want archie if instead of being written by an american sperg, it was written by a Japanese sperg instead.
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>>542157537
I'll elaborate. Don't reply to them, just report.
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jpfags might not be buying sonic games but at least they make better art than us and eufags
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>>542157193
Hi Tailsbro!
How are you doing today fellow TailsCHAD?

>>542157550
Here are the Tailses you ordered, enjoy!
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>>542157801
Thank you for the extra Tails, my fellow TailsPROFESSIONAL
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you guys just repeat the same shit every day huh
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>>542157672
Agreed.
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>>542157969
>What Japan wants
Vs
>What the West wants

GEE I WONDER WHY IT'S SELLING BETTER HERE.
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>>542158001
Is this homo or hetero?
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Foxes overdose...
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The Sonic series needs Kojima style writing. It's not like the fans aren't autistic enough to like that stuff.
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>>542157796
>uwuver
>uwuver
>uwuver again
noooooooooooo
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>>542157921
I was thinking of the extra Tails as bringing the others, but you can keep him too, he's a good bonus
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>>542158126
lol at first glance I thought it's a bulge, not feet.
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>>542158087
lunar is whatever you want him to be
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>>542157969
I AM TIRED OF HELLOKITTY
I HATE UWU CUTESY SLOP
I HATE LGTV SLOP
I AM TIRED OF SHIPPING
IIII HAAAAAAAAAATTTE HELLLOOOOO KIITTYYYYYYY
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>>542158347
Dead?
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>>542158087
its tails so its automagically gay
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>>542158382
Gigabased Chadbotnik.
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>>542157618
Yep, they basically just want Kingdom Hearts.
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>>542158382
they want that pediatric clinic money so they can put wallpaper in the play areas lmao
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>>542158196
Just being happy isn't Uwuver. His eyes are right in all of those.
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>>542158396
no i mean what is in his pants
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>>542158690
Why is that important in a children's comic?
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>>542158673
>His eyes are right in all of those.
So he can be as faggy as can be as long sd his eye shape is right?
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Technically Tails has received the most content of any other character so far this decade, particularly thanks to Murder and TailsTube, which makes up multiple hours. Shadow has received less content overall, but more budget and more attention grabbing media
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>>542151509
OCs aren’t cool Woefag stop bringing them up
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>>542158852
He's not faggy just because he smiles
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Silver can swallow my seed and its not gay if his eyes are pointed.
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>>542158852
No.
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>>542159005
>>542159073
You guys are disingenuous losers
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>>542158031
Yes
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Since Sonic Superstars was a failure, do you think they'll start releasing Shadow games in place of the Classic series?
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>Crossworlds videos get recommended to me
>all have less than 5k views
>check player numbers
>like 8k max at a given time.
>13.5k peak that still hasn't been passed.
What happened to Crossworlds? Why didnt people like it?
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>>542159242
Yes.
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>>542158826
Auraver has so much potential
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>>542159242
Since when has failure stopped Sega? You're gonna get a new Classic game and you will rike it.
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>>542159110
And you are obsessed with wanting Silver to be gay
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>>542158396
This nigga cool
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>>542158031
yeah it is pretty sad. Feels like most of the anons in this general are all just stuck in a endless loop unable to leave or post anything other than the same stale ragebait arguments.
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>>542159571
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>>542159438
why do you think we had a whole meta era? when's the next boom game coming out?
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where can i obtain miku's airhorn
i saw a couple of characters and vehicles that weren't miku's and they could use that distinct airhorn
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>>542159370
People find beefing online over the game more engaging than the actual game, this has been the case for ages
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>>542159370
>Relying on Steam Charts for kart racers
Anon...
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>>542159716
By what metric should I measure its success then?
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>>542159662
this is weird

you're weird
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>>542159110
Show us what a "non faggy" but happy Silver would look like
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>>542159935
Probably smirkshit aura farm
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>>542159716
Why did SEGA make a game if they didn't want people to play it? If Kart racers never do well, why did they make it?
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>>542159657
Boom didn't die from failure. Boom died caused Japan won and Archie poisoning.
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>>542159935
I don't save pictures of Silver on principle.
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Auraver fucking sucks and isn't Silver at all
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>>542160015
what kind of bait is this? whatever fish you are attempting to hunt does not exist
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>>542159809
liking tomboy titties is not weird
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>>542148489
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>>542160038
Silver sucks.
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Boom dies because SoJ fucked them over by making them port a game they made for PC and stronger consoles to fit on the Wii U in 5 months and then blamed for it.
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>>542159805
Numbers from across all platforms, dummy. It's crossplay.
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>>542159110
There's a difference between having a good time and being uwu.

>>542159935
Mario and Sonic games, Sonic Channel art. Really any of the side game content he shows up in.
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>>542159651
gonna snag that reaction image
>filename
I'll be sure to check it out
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>>542159846
You got any Jet stickers? He's my Crossworlds Main
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>>542160181
True.
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>>542147728
Honestly, rather than have Silver tell us why his future is bad for the people, they should have showed us. Sure it would have been somewhat Cliché, but take Attack on Titan for instant, If Silver had a opening like that show/ manga did, it would justify why silver is such a emotional bitch all the time. Plus it would make good world building.
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>>542160283
Just a fair warning, it can be downright miserable, so be sure you are in the mood to be depressed.
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>>542160231
Okay. Let's be generous and times that 13.5k player count Peak from Steam and multiply it by 6, the number of consoles, we get 81k. And let's be extra generous and double that, because one consoles might sell better. 162k. How fucking embarrassing.
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answer me or i'll post paws
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>>542159571
Picrel

>>542160286
They haven't made Jet stickers yet. I'll vote for him if he shows up in an art poll.
https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/special/staffcolumn/20250121_008851/
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>>542160548
Who the fuck screencaps youtube comments
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>>542160540
What was your question?
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>>542160480
Noted, I'll still check it out but I'll probably do so when I'm in a somber mood.
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People who post auraver crap don't even play the games
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>>542160153
Was Rise of Lyric NOT sabotaged by Sega of Japan with its Wii U exclusivity deal? It ain't bait, its history.
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>>542160727
miku's airhorn
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>>542159242
No, Superstars sold well on it's own and Classic is still getting a lot of merch
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>>542160231
If we stop being generous with those numbers we get a max of about 4-8k players with its dwindling player base. A 48k regular player base is utterly disappointing, which is likely why they haven't paraded around the sales numbers.
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>>542160920
what about the 3ds games? don't try to gaslight me about the 3ds
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>>542160846
It is not an exaggeration to say the popular perception of Silver comes exclusively from misconceptions about 06.
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>>542160920
It wasn't going to be a success.

>>542161081
They're shit like you would expect. They're completely boring to play. Not just the Boom ones, the 3DS Sonic games are awful in general.
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>>542160995
>No, Superstars sold well on it's own
3k peak on Steam says otherwise.
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>>542160846
Seethe.
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>>542160995
In SEGA's OWN WORDS, they called it a disappointment. Actually think before you post.
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>>542160548
The thing about /sthg/ is that I've rarely seen any of the conversation here change someone's opinion on anything. Granted I'm not in these threads 24/7 so I probably just miss the times they do but it feels like no one is willing to admit when they or wrong or see something in a different light, it's just anons shouting their opinions over each other. Is there anyone currently here that has had their opinion on something about sonic changed based on a conservation they have had with another anon?
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Sonic & Tails
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>>542160995
>it was a "disappointment"
>Not from Iizuka
>Not from Kishimoto
>Not from some rando
>From SEGA'S PRESIDENT
You are never seeing santiago ever again once the pipeline is exhausted
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>>542160490
>>542161046
Numbers this, numbers that, when was the last time you got a girl's number?
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>>542161352
>no one is willing to admit when they or wrong or see something in a different light, it's just anons shouting their opinions over each other
We are in a deeply neurotic fanbase on a deeply neurotic anime forum. This is not just bound to happen, it's guaranteed.
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>>542161340
I said the game sold well, which it did. Sega just had weirdly high expectations for that game. 1.8 million units in it's first fiscal year is far from bad
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>>542161453
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>>542161352
I've seen people changed their minds on certain characters but it's very rare.
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>>542161445
If you want to use user scores, I can tell you how they fucked up there too. No matter how you measure Superstars, it's a fuckin flop, dude.
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>>542161439
They're still releasing classic merch and Sonic Channel material so no. The Sonic Channel update even included the separate Classic bios with the Superstars models
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*beep*
*beep*
*beep*
*beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...
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Are they just trying to make Eggman harmless like Bowser? Is that it? They do know that Mario is all just a play, right?
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>>542161598
>which it did
Do you have ANY proof on that?
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>>542161661
Wait, I'm not the dude talking about Superstars, I'm talking about Crossworlds.
I don't give a fuck about Superstars. Sorry for the insult.
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>>542161816
https://nintendoeverything.com/sega-sales-data-sonic-superstars-frontiers-racing-persona-5-royal-shin-megami-tensei-5/

Sega just had super high expectations for Superstars for whatever reason
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If they want the Classic branch to continue they need to make a 3D game, everyone is tired of 2D at this point
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>>542161782
>Edgy, yet safe.
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Do you remember this?
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>>542161751
>... Maria...
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>>542161352
That's mostly because of picrel
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>>542161751
bro gorged himself on attention
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Being a Sonamy fan in 2025.
>Their dynamic is bland
>other ships with Sonic and Amy are more interesting
main writer wants to end the ship
>Amy is a girlboss that doesn't care about Sonic
Am I missing anything?
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>>542161938
I agree but Sega feels the need to systemize everything so Classic = 2D and Modern = 3D with no place for intersections
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>>542161748
>>542161439
>You are never seeing santiago ever again once the pipeline is exhausted
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>>542161995
Yeah you forgot
>Fans will defend it no matter what anyway
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>>542161081
Shattered Crystal got a sequel didn't it? Had Rise of Lyric not been sabotaged, safe to say it would've gotten one as well. Reminder: Sonic Team was busy with the (failed) Sonic Runners game and Sakura Wars at the time.

What actually did kill things for good was the TV show getting cancelled. Keep in mind, this is after Sega (of America) got hit with a shit ton of layoffs and "early retirements" after the Lyric fiasco.

All according to SoJ's plan.
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>>542161962
booru discord trannies got btfo
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Sonic Boom Fire and Ice is where the writers got movie Sonic's characterization from and I'm not joking
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>>542161751
Diabetes
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Hug
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Good afternoon ladies, what are we seething our little blood-soaked clitties to today? I saw some Evan bitching earlier
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>>542161352
Sthg made me change my mind a lot.

Now i see this franchise is garbage and the reason why everyone shouts at each others (me included) is because we're all suicidal, the moment we have little hopes of "we are back" we become super arrogant and invasive until reality crashes again.
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>>542162208
>Shattered Crystal
No one played it

>a sequel
No one played it

They simply hadn't given up on the brand yet and tried to make another game because people liked the humor in the cartoon. It didn't work, because the games were awful.
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Silver
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>>542162521
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>>542162084
>Modern = 3D with no place for intersections
I wish, even Shadow Generations makes half the acts 2D

>>542162514
Tails is cool!
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>>542162336
me and the other bros spited each others this morning with 'dougefags. It was all a plan to post more soft porn.
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>>542162641
I meant like we'll probably never have a Modern game that is fully 2D after the Sonic 4 fiasco
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>>542162743
Oh, good point. That's sad too

>never
I don't know about this, things can change a lot over the years. Right now it's like this though
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>>542162845
Yeah you're right. We'll see
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>>542162798
I don't know how to get Miku's Air horn
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>>542161938
>3D classic
Superstars gameplay is based on the Retro Engine. Sonic Team is incapable of creating classic 3D gameplay.
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>>542151128
>we need a union of Sonic continuities
HOLY REAL
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>>542161995
You forgot the copium that the ship will be canon soon since Sonic is shown to be way more comfortable around her and calling her his "favorite"
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>>542163057
We backed the right fucking horse.
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>almost 8000 pics in my hard drive
>70% of them is nothing but foxes
>tails mainly, followed by fiona and kit
An entire year in this place and i'm already mentally crippled.

I liek foxes.
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>>542163263
A year?
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>>542163263
8000 is a lot. I have like ~1200. Though I'll delete some of them because they're just boring concept art. Pic unrelated
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>>542162907
To my knowledge no one has ever made an actually accurate recreation of the classic physics in 3D, and going by the love Sonic Utopia got I'm not sure anyone actually wants that. They should make a fun 3D game with the classic moveset, enemies that are defeated by spinning into them or jumping into them, nice feeling controls, and good level design that has a focus on multiple routes with shortcuts
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I wish our jannies would do their job
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>>542160540
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>>542163397
Utopia is that, it's just that it's less of a game and more a physics showcase.
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I wish Shadow stripped me naked and touched my balls
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>>542163538
I really wish the dev didn't fucking give up after one fucking level. Many such cases.
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Honestly dude I don't know if you want us to just stop posting here altogether or not because literally any time a single image of Tails is posted you seethe about spam and jannies. I'm sorry but Tails is a Sonic character and a famous one at that. You are going to see him if you keep coming back. If it bothers you so much maybe you should leave
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Reported.
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>>542151128
Yeah try making that work after years of shitting on IDW readers
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>>542163845
What, all 4 of them?
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>>542163640
I don't think it was ever meant to be anything more than a tech demo
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>>542164041
4 years ago, he said we was still working on it and that the project wasn't dead.
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>>542161962
it's always so fucking funny to me how some random janitor from Arthur became a stand in for reddit mods
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The people calling for all the Sonic continuities to come together are lying. They're just mad that Japan won and Archie/Boom lost the war.

No new American Sonic ever again. Only Nippon Sonic arrowed.
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>>542164175
Oh well, sucks that it will never become anything
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>>542164302
>Japan won
Won what?
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>>542148360
Uh oh, the nuSonic weebzooms are gonna HATE posting under an OP this based. You’re cruisin’ for another Bestie Box Breakdown, OP, do you want that?!
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>>542157796
>sonic
>shadow
>silver
>shadow
>knuckles
>silver
>sonic
>amy
>shadow
>metal
>knuckles
>silver
>shadow
>sonic
>amy
>sonic
>silver
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>>542163538
Utopia is either running on a plane field or jumping off of slopes to get a ton of height. I don't see it working with actual classic-style level design, and Utopia itself is doing nothing to show how that would work. In general the classics don't usually make you jump that high that easily, and when they do it's a minor mechanic overall, not the core of the experience. Utopia seems to be built around 3 seconds of gameplay in Green Hill/Hill Top, rather than the classic gameplay experience as a whole
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What we actually need is Sonic Breeze from that Dreams PS4/PS5 engine.
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>>542163397
I basically agree with you but even that is beyond modern developers.
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>>542148360
Sega trying to keep Sonic alive in Japan:
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>>542164629
Kek
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>>542154582
So real! God, I miss Archie.

Sonic should be more like one piece or naruto too.
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>>542163759
He can't handle the fox boy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTtJuGVwpXY
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Very rich of the jpfags accuse me of being mindbroken when they’ve made similar OPs in the past. You don’t like when people fight back, which is a fatal flaw in your character
You can’t handle retaliation
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>>542164302
sonic doom was directed and overseen by SoJ
It should have been a reboot archie tie in
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>>542164302
We still have the movies

>>542164412
You don't know that though. The physics themselves are closer to classic physics than anything else. It shows how unnecessary the homing attack is for platforming. Proper level design built around that is very much possible
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>>542164302
the movies saved this franchise, japcuck
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>yay my favorite franchise is dying
What mental illness is this
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>>542163387
>boring concept art
Like what?
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>>542164802
Amusing they accuse others of being mind broken when they can't handle being told Japan fucking hates Sonic.
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>>542164629
it's actually kind of amazing how Japan is completely allergic to anything relating to Sonic, not even collaborating with Miku helped. Very strange.
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>>542164302
>No new American Sonic ever again.
You seem to be forgetting that the movies are the only reason Sonic is alive right now
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>>542164885
freedom from despair
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>>542164897
Like this
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>>542164885
Sonic died in 2010 with boost, or with the Dreamcast if you're really hardcore about it. It's only right we lay this corpse to rest
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>>542158603
06 is this franchise's Kingdom Hearts
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God you joyless millennial faggots are so weird
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>>542164996
The narrative that Japan simply don't know about Sonic was killed hard by adding Miku to Crossworlds. It's not that they don't know about him, they straight up DO NOT like Sonic. Sonic Crossworlds sold worse than the latest Miku game in Japan. Sonic ACTIVELY devalues other brands.
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>>542165260
How weird, how strange, to demand quality from a franchise. Unheard of to Zoomer slop enjoyers.
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>>542165243
Kingdom Hearts was good until BBS went full retard.
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>>542165374
You aren't demanding quality because you get a bigger hit of dopamine by harping on failures
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>>542165260
>just accept kiddie slop, crossover garbage and other shit no one asked for bro! Come on! SEGA needs that third yacht!
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>>542165243
Yes and that's what the contemporary fandom wants. See the fixation on Venice, Terios, prototype Blaze, prototype Sonic, etc. They are begging for self-indulgent slop like Nobodies.
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>>542164302
sex with Sticks
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>>542164861
The thing, I'm not sure building a stage around what people like of Utopia would actually lead to a 3D game that feels like the classics

What do you think of Sonic Robo Blast 2?
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>>542165529
Whatever you say, hey, at least you get quality stuff like Skibidi Fortnite Sonic! Thats cool, right?
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>>542165270
>It's not that they don't know about him, they straight up DO NOT like Sonic.
does anyone know why specifically? I think some anons have mentioned before it's partially due to Sega not putting in the effort to advertise the series or their consoles very well in Japan back in the day but can't be the only reason.
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sonic bombed
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why ae westtrannies like this? you will never GET CHADNIC
Even the dogshit movies get carried by Jim Carrey
When they do originals without Carrey you get putrid slop like the Knuckles series
Every time the west try to do sonic stuff its always SLOP of the highest order.
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>>542165857
Not in the movies made by the West, he didn't.
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>>542148454
Truly.
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>>542165753
It's cool to the people who like those things and it'll open an opportunity for them to try out Sonic, but I guess the better option would be to just cancel any future game or multimedia project and submit to all the critics huh
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I don't mind all continuities coming together as long as Satam and preboot Archie are specifically disregarded.

I wonder if westfags accept those terms.
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>>542165692 (Me)
*The thing is

>>542165753
Frontiers was fun
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>>542165807
>it's partially due to Sega not putting in the effort to advertise the series or their consoles very well in Japan back in the day
It can't be just that, the series has been around for 35 years, it should have cultivated an audience at this point. The sales data shows that Sonic isn't retaining interest in that market.
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>>542165865
>Even the dogshit movies get carried by Jim Carrey
And has a single game's user score even come close to these "dosghist movies?" No? How strange!
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>>542165857
Twin Towers
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>>542165945
aaa fuck my alteroeg wait wait
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>>542153435
>The manga confirms Shadally
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Why haven't you abandoned the series yet if you hate it so much?
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>>542166018
>Frontiers was fun
See, you zoomers NEVER demand quality. No wonder Sonic is stagnant. Why would they try when you eat up whatever trash they hand you.
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>>542166052
>muh scores cope
DOGSHIT MOVIES CARRIED BY CARREY
learn to read you fucking subhuman
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Good evening, /sthg/
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Perci is the only woman Sonic has been attracted to in a product that was under Sonic Team supervision.

Explain.
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>>542166329
So you have nothing, then, interesting.
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>>542166141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOudIoCjiC4
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>>542166250
I completely ignored Lost World because it didn't look appealing to me and I only played Forces after Frontiers, when it became very cheap, and still think it was a lame game overall. I enjoyed Frontiers and I'll get to Shadow Generations at some point
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Find a more wholesome pic than this.
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>>542166318
I have never seen this before, that's actually funny
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>THE WEST GET SONIC BRO TRUT ME!!
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>>542166546
Well, good on you anon. At least someone enjoyed it. If you loved Frontiers, you'll be happy to know they're making Frontiers 2, and will very likely not change a fucking thing, so you'll get more of the same thing
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>>542166191
I'm waiting for the next non-Kishimoto game.
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>>542166708
This, same thing happened with Adventure to Adventure 2
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>>542166392
Sonamy is a western fanbase grift
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>>542165915
Sonic bombed
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>>542166672
Unless one of the games gets above a 95% user score, yes, the movies did it better, and you can die mad about it.
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>>542166672
You just don't get it bro. Sonic is my boy, we go way from back way back in the day man. He's my bro man boy you gotta be real an up front come on man that's my boy. For real man straight up.
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>>542166708
The Final Horizon has a different style and structure compared to the base game, and Kishimoto said they will have original environments for the next game which is my biggest problem with Frontiers. If they make something like The Final Horizon but more polished and with arcade modes like the first update I'll be satisfied
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>>542166708
>>542166772
Adventure 1 is nothing like Adventure 2 and I am willing to bet Frontiers 2 will somehow be nothing like Frontiers 1
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>>542166816
Half a billion is not a fucking bomb, you retard.
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The movies are liked because they're diet marvel not because they're good
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Tails is the best
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>>542167112
Diet marvel is literally SA2, the most celebrated story in the series. Get some self awareness.
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Why is it so cool?
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>Non white crying over the west again.
Your kind never created anything of value in history, parasite.
The japs don't like you either.
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>>542167157
at being a girl
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I am one of only a handful of Sonic fans in this general
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>>542167112
>>542167112
UHN UUUUH. Them movies got big black beautiful ebony queens in em and that's why you think they're bad. You'll keep saying this too until they give Tails his own ebony queen then all of a sudden your mom's basement walls will be plastered with the blur armed blur.
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"his world" is sonic's definitive theme and should be used wayyy more than "it doesnt matter" imo
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>>542167303
No.
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>shitdow movie didn't even pass 500M
lol lmao even
The west tried with Prime , it was dogshit
movies? everyone only talks about carrey
archie?idw? lol LMAO EVEN
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>>542167247
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>>542167067
canon dynamic btw
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>>542167247
They need to be canon already FFS

I even had a dream of this just last night
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>>542167349
yeah we're fighting to the death
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>>542167284
Maddie is one of the least annoying non canon OCs in the Sonic franchise. That doesn't change the fact that the movies aren't good. Nice try.
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>>542166250
But forces was the slop???
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>>542167067
if thats all she has to offer just vault her already
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Just because Sonia is hot DOES NOT mean Sonic Underground is good.
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If Penders dies can we get the cool vaulted characters back? I want Uncle Chuck and Shade back
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>>542167352
>shitdow movie didn't even pass 500M
And that's still on top, so what does that tell you about the rest of the franchise, retard?
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>>542167303
His World is too high-energy and says nothing about Sonic's character. Also using it as the main riff for 06 was a horrible design decision. Live and Learn is about Sonic and Shadow, they should have made better song for all 3 hogs.
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Stop drawing Sonia flat, she's busty in her classic age. Imagine her in her modern age
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Man what the fuck do you Debbie downer drooling downies even think is good
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Just because you grew up with the dark age games doesn't mean they are good.
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>>542167489
Forces AT LEAST looked like it was finished and not a fucking tech demo.
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>>542167470
>Maddie is one of the least annoying non canon OCs in the Sonic franchise.

Wooow what a trophy. If Tika(L) Sumpter were reading this right now.
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>>542167564
Sonic Underground would be good if it was good okay. Everything about it is good except for the bad parts.
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>>542167564
Yes it does
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>>542167564
I don't want underground to be cannon, Just it's characters
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>>542167827
These are the same people that tell you Blade of Slpp is good BTW. And that Yuuta is actually a good character, funny stuff.
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>>542167923
You want them shot with a cannon?
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>>542167763
>Forces AT LEAST looked like it was finished
LOL???
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Sonic Underground is the first Sonic cartoon to ever say free like the wind. Therefore it is good.
Id you want to fight about it fight Randomfox.
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Jpfags are delusional and belong in a mental asylum.
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>>542167730
The movies. Keep up, nigga.
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>>542160158
hey anon, chance you can update that? cant repost image cuz 4chan restrictions
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It Doesn't Matter is Sonic's POV
His World is everyone else's POV of Sonic
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>westerntrannies
lol lmao even
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>>542167874
This is the most quintessential Sonic fan statement ever made. It really does capture the very essence of being a Sonic fan.
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I bet this general doesn't know that Sonic Underground started airing in Japan 10 years ago and the Japanese subbed version of the series (English audio) can be found on Wild brain's YouTube channel.
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>>542168184
That's racist, anon.
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>>542168081
Are you gonna tell me with a straight face and tell me Frontiers looks good or finished in any capacity? Be honest, nigga.
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>>542167874
Thank you for the tautology.
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>>542168286
No but to say Forces looks finished is equally as retarded
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>>542167625
>too high-energy
i expect sonic's theme to match his energy, man. i think its perfect. unless you're talking about the zebrahead version, which is a bit much yeah
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>>542168268
What???
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>>542168286
Pretty sure even Kishimoto admitted it wasn't finished, that's why it was buggy as fuck and needed a DLC to put the actual ending into the game.
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>>542168356
It looks more finished than Frontiers, that is still objectively true.
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AOSTH is more beloved than Sonic X
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>>542168448
Yeah, so many people tell me Final Horizons "fixed" all this shit, but why are we excusing it in the fucking first place? That shit should have been handled ON RELEASE.
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>>542168515
AOSTH is objectively better than Sonic X.
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Forces levels are unironically more finished than Frontiers
Frontiers cyberslop look like a level editor and the map the most generic PSO2 assets
i prefer frrontiers to forces but its the objective truth
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Scourge the Hedgehog
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>>542168664
kino
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>>542168656
Additionally, all the base game frontiers levels are literally jusy older levels haphazardly slapped in there and these niggers have the audacity to say its more complete than Forces.
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>all this westrannoid cope
lmao
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>>542168604
It's because people define their entire being by being a Sonic fan. To criticize the series is to criticize themselves. They laugh at religion without realizing that they are treating a children's brand exactly like one.
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>>542168862
Sex
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>>542168745
who's the one on the top???
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>>542168745
I miss this guy, I love his art style.
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West won
Krack lost
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>>542168448
Frontiers was not "buggy as fuck".
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>>542169162
Come on, at least try with your bait.
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>>542169125
Krack won. Because you can't see him anymore. Lole
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>>542169162
>Frontiers was not "buggy as fuck".
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>>542168998
what is this from
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>>542167757
I didn't and I think they're good.
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>>542169162
Thanks anon, I really needed some comedy today
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>>542169213
and Krack is very happy about it :)
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>>542168853
Could you take all ten inches of Chris /sthg/?
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>>542168981
Tania >>542156849
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>>542169208
>>542169227
>>542169359
What are you even thinking of? Speedrunning tricks? Come on anons.
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>>542169257
https://anonpaste.com/share/sonic-chronicles-fangame-clips-v2-9f10c521ed

Here you go bud
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>>542169162
BRO even as a shitpost thats too far
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roboticize idwfags
roboticize jpfags too
roboticize the reason and the outcome
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>>542166854
Nobody’s falling for your shill bait
You can try this shtick again on /tv/ with your pedophile kin, however
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Sonic Underground is easily the best Sonic show.
First of all, Sonic has no love interests. That is an immediate boost. Almost every other Sonic cartoon fails this basic test.
Second of all, Sonic is a traveler, the only other Sonic cartoons to get this right are AOSTH and Sonic X, and Sonic X makes the mistake of having him live at the Thorndyke mansion.
Third of all, it contains the lyrics "Free, like the wind" in the song "We want to be free". While they are singing about the desert, this immediately puts underground above every other Sonic show except Sonic X in terms of naming things from Sonic's character.


Minus points
>Royalty
Sonic is not royalty
>Fear of water
Sonic is NOT afraid of water, Sonic X makes this mistake too
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Why aren’t japfags fighting back? Did you run out of steam when windshit lost to IDW?
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>>542169586
much obliged
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>>542170083
AAAAAAAAAAAAUGGGH PLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAP
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SEX WITH MY SISTER!!!
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>>542169976
>Sonic is not royalty
He is LITERALLY King Arthur
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because japGODS already won
meanwhile the DOGSHIT
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>you could obtain a free miku horn during her festival
>not interested in festivals so i missed that
FUCK MEEEEE
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>>542170259
Seethe japsperg
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>>542169947
95. Stay mad
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>>542170385
I wonder what Tails' neighbor thinks about Tails' stupid ass head house
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The biggest problem with Sonic Frontiers was it's complete lack of enthusiasm in the story outside of the boss fights, a surprising lack of Sonic attitude and on top of that the open zone music, environment and art style was completely off for what I'd expect any Sonic game to look and sound like. It gave me Sonic 06 levels of dissonance yet I feel like somehow 06's graphics still felt more natural around the characters than in Frontiers.

It's a step in the right direction and if they polish and sharpen up the open zone gameplay and actually put in the effort to make those open zones feel natural for Sonic to run around in then I could see a sequel actually being good. I do not have much hope for Sonic storytelling anymore though so all I can do is just hope that it's not horrible.
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>>542169976
>Sonic is not royalty
Don't be too sure about that. He is King Arthur and SEGA loves giving him a crown for his birthdays.
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>>542170229
Sparky...
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>>542170259
Nicole just wasn't the same after installing Protogent...
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>>542170593
>
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>>542170718
Leave it to the Tails avatarfag to actually critique the game and not be a shitflinging sub 70 IQ ape
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>>542170718
>d if they polish and sharpen up the open zone gameplay and actually put in the effort to make those open zones feel natural for Sonic to run around in then I could see a sequel actually being good
You know damn well that's not going to happen
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did anyone do anything creative today?
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>>542170926
I made something in blender >>542163858
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>>542170860
Espio's body is all fucked up in this pic, what the hell happened
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Japs lost so hard that Underground fags are taking the general lol
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Sonic characters for this feel?
https://youtu.be/aOZ5uXfPe88
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>>542170593
They should make an Ace Attorney x Sonic crossover game like what Capcom did with Professor Layton x AA. Would actually be kino seeing Miles and Miles bantering with each other over pedantry.
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>>542170926
i don't know, is fetish art creative?
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>>542166736
>Rouge next to Knuckles
They're giving them false hope
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>>542170860
>>542171015
I think it is a HxH reference. He is holding Shadows head
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>>542167181
Nice
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>>542171132
Nah, that thumbnail and title is already too much concentrated autism. I ain't clicking that shit.
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>>542169903
MODS GET THE SMELLY FAGGOT ADULTS THE FUCK OUT OF HERE. THEY SMELL BAD AND DO NOT DESERVE A THIRD FIFTH AND TENTH CHANCE TO GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH THEIR INNER CHILDREN. THEY LOST IT FOR A REASON!

HAVE SOME SENSE!!!
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>>542171356
Come on anon, do it for the bit.
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I uwu
You uwu
We uwu
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>>542171193
she can have both
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>>542171365
Starting with (you)
SWATBOTS....
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>>542171225
No. I mean his torso is misaligned with the rest of his body
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>>542169903
Classic Eggman with black void eyes should return
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>>542171508
huh? I'm kind of a big deal. Already been roboticized bud
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question
what tilted the westtrannies to have a melty this big?
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>>542169586
>Megan
where's Sally
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>>542171574
Those were glasses. the black eyes were American Sonic thing.
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>>542171670
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I pooped in my chair
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>>542171616
She's in, but he's holding off on showing her to avoid melties.

The developer is Scribbles
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>>542171709
He has black glasses in Sonic 2 and 3&K (fuck Origins for changing it)
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>>542171007
cool!
>>542171189
...yes? although it isn't something I like it is something you made so it counts
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>>542171439
>guy who calls you a good for nothing thief and has the intellect of a rock
>guy you've practically said vows to who's the literal perfect being
Wonder who she'd rather be with
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>>542164631
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>>542171794
>Scribbles
Wait seriously? I guess the Elise model looks familiar.
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If Eggman could do it, why can't Rouge.
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>>542172150
All the models are in his style
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>>542172150
it becomes really obvious when you look at Honey and Fiona
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I love this mod though Kat could lose the gold eyeliner, but the big boobies and the tum are on point
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>>542172389
she looks like jessie
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>>542171339
Danke, I also drew Shadow
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>>542171670
canon dynamic btw
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>>542172121
>hapy ending
based artist
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>>542172697
So... she becomes a cat?
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>>542172603
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>>542172697
>>542172121
this is ooc
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>>542172450
No bad thing

>>542167181
>>542172492
These are top tier drawings, thanks.
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>Are you my mother?
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>>542172016
The guy who is actually her friend.
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Welp, New Shadow Game or Shadow content incoming.
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In 200 years, shadow becomes more edgy
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Sage grinding on my lap while insulting me
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>>542172809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pxQZ05ALgc
its just this
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>>542172389
>That flick
https://files.catbox.moe/64e8xs.mp4
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>>542172919
>dinner
Not friends. They don't even like each other.
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>see first scene of Rouge in SA2
>doesn't even attempt to flirt with knuckles for the emerald
>JUST LET IT GO
>surprised face when she gets btfo
Is she retarded?
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>>542173038
Which Sage?
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>>542173110
Why does this specifically use adult Chris?
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>>542173113
They look pretty happy together in that pic anon, cope.
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>>542172938
https://sonic-city.net/2025/10/08/sega-files-new-trademark-for-shadow-the-hedgehog/

https://x.com/soniccitynet/status/1975840662047379925

It's legit, and fans are seething lmao
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>>542172929
I'm so used to seeing this being the OP image of the fanfic thread on fast.
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>>542172938
Based
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>>542173039
>>542172809
Actually the origin was this pic
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>>542173290
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Sonic should have writing with this feel
https://youtu.be/szTmFI3dmDU
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>>542173290
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>>542173329
the mina mecha sonics of Silver's time
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>>542173449
it started like that but the comic as a whole is a reference to monsters inc
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Was jack sinclair ment to be a reference to fang?
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>>542173473
>>542172938
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>>542173290
Lmao
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>>542173578
>Metal Sonic
Jobber
>Jet the Hawk
Super Jobber
>Knuckles
Only one who deserves his own new game
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>>542172938
>>542173473
>>542173578
Shadow franchise, please understand
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>>542173679
Who?
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>>542173679
No.
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Thougths on Silver Sonic?
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>>542172938
I KNEEL AND SQUEAL
ABOUT MY SHALLOW SHONENSHIT APPEAL
I CANNOT ACCEPT MY HEADCANON ISNT REAL

I LIE TO MYSELF TO COPE
MY IDOL NEEDS HEADCANON TO BE INTERESTING AND I MOPE
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE HAND ME A ROPE

I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I SEE
MAEKAWA PREFERS THE BEE
HE HAS BETRAYED ME

MY TASTE IS WORSE THAN A TRASH BAG
MY SELF INSERT IS A GAG
I AM, A TAILSFAG

IT'S DONE
YOU WON
SHADOW
YOU ARE NUMBER ONE
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>>542173767
Maria in heaven enjoying all of the fans seething lmao
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>>542173891
He's racist
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>Crops Maria out of shots
>Crops Sally out of shots
I wonder
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>>542173891
Cute cinnamon roll
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I LOVE BLOBIAN KIDS CHARLIE I LOVE BLOBIAN KIDS
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>>542173290
Hoes Mad
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>>542174243
Its October you FUCK
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>>542173891
A clanker
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Shadow is a bum without Maria and Silver is a bum without Blaze.
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>>542173891
he is smug
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>>542169586
>windnic eyes
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How to save Sonic: make every game a gay soap opera
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>>542173901
kek
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>>542174241
Silver...
https://files.catbox.moe/74j7fo.jpg
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>>542172938
Bitches be hatin
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>>542173290
>Core 4
>Movies and TV shows
>Frontiers
>Origins
>Dream Team
Nobody at that table is starving
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>>542172938
The most unintentional ragebait of all times
/sthg/ and twitter have been divided since then
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>>542174470
This is not the face of a hero...
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>>542174441
Unironically works for VivziePop
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>>542174595
Yeah I don't get why they're trying to force this Shadow meme
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>>542174441
>shadow holding his son as he passes away
actually pretty sad
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>>542173290
>>542174595
>>542174514
>>542173738
>>542173473
>>542174749
You want MORE already?
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SILVER IS STARVING
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>>542174656
Good idea. We need a musical with a lot of sexual innuendos
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>>542172919
>both insult each other in dream team
>insult each other in murder
>don't even want the other there in crossworlds
>can't stand each other in idw
Wow, what good friends!
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>Shitdowtrannoids mad that people rrightfully hate their trans squid fave
cry more
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>>542174996
>>542174996
>>542174996
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>>542174935
ITS CALLED SEXUAL TENSION
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>>542174241
Blaze...
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>>542174795
Silver is well fed. All he's missing is being playable in a mainline game
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>>542172938
It's only a matter of time
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>>542173789
>Knuxtard delusion
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>>542176767
Facts > headcanon you SonLOSERic
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>>542177326
huh? go shit somewhere else weirdo
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i hate zavok's new voice, this guy is in every anime nowadays
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>>542179349
Shut up faggot



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