Rank Lock Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-02-2025-update.84332/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>542141805
Paige's hairy logcutter.
Yeah, I guess I'm a bit of an Eternus-tier player now. You're all shitters and beneath me.
>archon 1>rank update>ascendant 1>games are exactly the samewow!at least there aren't a million initiate 1 players now
i only play vindicta and can't play anyone else so when i don't get her i get put on mina and i think i do okay
>>542204896uh huh that's why nightshift only picks infernus and not haze
I have never played this game and will not play it until it actually releasesI'm an only here to shitpost and be bored
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
>>542205227haze is played as support there
>>542204896>haze is active way earlierhave you ever played infernus yourself? he becomes a rapist by minute 10. his powerspike is huge and if he's fighting a Haze she has to play on the defensive 100% of the time because she doesn't have spirit damage, a peel ability nor a damage amp with lifesteal.
Will we EVER get to Skellingtown?
>>542205403because she isn't as strong as infernusdumbass
>>542205443if we never get a skeleton hero because of china i'm actually i'm i'm gonna cry i can't really do anything about it besides that
Femdom
>spend over an hour researching and designing build for hero>don't get them in matchmakingGonna kill myself
>>542204065This makes nowhere near any sense since soldier is fun to play + infinite skill ceiling + nowhere near the strongest that's pic related
>>542205467this is your average dlg retard btw>different roles >hur dur that means haze WEAK because she not that other role???
>make smurf>majority of games have a leaver on my team>cant rank up lol
>Get send to arcanist 6>The match is exactly same>Bunch of retards vs bunch of retards, whoever have the worse retards lose the gameThanks for "fixing" matchmaking
will /dlg/ ever get over their haze derangement
>>542205668>i read none of the post im replying to: the postlol
>>542206167no pub is playing support hazethey only play support haze to get vision and use dagger in nightshift, she's dogshit otherwise
> New RanksOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHCan I make youtube videos for deadlock now with titles like "Archon Pro Plays #992"
>>542206228Did they say it was anything involving matchmaking and not just how ranks were distributed?
>>542205668>nowhere near the strongest>soldier player down playing soldierSoldier has no counter, has greatdamage, good mobility, doesn't need to aim much, still has good range compared to 70% of the cast, and the second most health. But worst of all he unlocks that basically solve any issue he might have.>yeh but muh 1v1 on a place with a bunch of props scout wins!!!Soldier is the "I want to win with the least amount of effort" class. Classes like Pyro, heavy and engi are easy too but that's only at the skill floor. If you want to be really effective as pyro or scout the game demands a lot more. Characters like Haze and Infernus are basically the soldier of deadlock. Good AND easy.
>>542206478it was only rank distribution
>>542206232Haze has an annoying voice and plays the Cello (stupid instrument) and therefore they should be removed from the game
>>542206232The community has never gotten over the 2024 gun meta. Perhaps Haze will always terrorize the lower ranks, no matter how many times she is raped.
>>542206469the tube market is flooded with Eternus this and Eternus that there's no room for Archons
>>542206469Already seeing people who were oracle/phantom putting "eternus" in their video/stream titles
>>542206574>Soldier has no counterI fucking love /vg/
>>542206652gun is still the easiest to carry with in pubs, just hold m1 on someone and win
>Play Dynamo>Use my blackhole>Somehow Mo & Krill grabs me through it and cancels it outWhat?!?!
>>542206815I've done it before if you jump dynamo from above
>Struggling to get out of Initiate for a long ass while now>Everytime I get close I always get quitters or unbelievable feeders>Log in today>Arcanist 3Huh? What happened?
>>542206764pyro loses the match up unless the pyro is 3x as good as the soldier. And even then the soldier can just equip the direct hit or use his shotgun. The former is also true for scout. Soldier can lose of course and there are situations disadvantagous but he's such an easy mode character that anyone fighting him is always punching up
>went from arcanist 6 to oracle 2at least i dont have to do this shit anymore
got put with quitters who stand afk and let me get ganked 20ft away
>>542206914I LITERALLY put it in the OP as to make it easy for you third worlders to come to terms with the news
Who's the most popular deadlock content creator out there?And who's like semi-popular?I want to make contents for deadlock, but I need to know there's money in it.
>>542207004fym retardoracle 2 is the new arcanist 6if you weren't happy at arcanist before, nothing should have changed for you
>>542207090Sorry am tarded I didn't read the OP.
>>542207004>>542207117I was in Emissary and now I'm Oracle 6 so it's not a complete 1 to 1 I guess if it means I'm gonna queue in the new arcanist
>>542206914>influx of new players with character and map update>rank system breaks, basically everyone below the 50th percentile is thrown into Initiate I, low-med MMR is broken and match quality is extremely low>Valve makes a fix>a lot of people jump ranks as a result>high MMR players are seething since they capitalized on having too few players to properly matchmaking, throwing them in lower ranked lobbies giving them an easy curb stomp>everyone's happy except top players
>>542206232>duhhh i walked up to the wave and ursa auto'd me to death that's so op!!!never.
>>542207109its the year 2025 and somehow people still dont realise that streaming and youtube videos are only making real money for the top 10%
How does anyone take the names in this game seriously?>reads booksPaige>is a tankAbrams>freezy cold manKelvin>whips niggersLash
>>542207506Its what you call good design
>haze who can suck up farm, sleep dagger and turn invis when pressured, can lazer beam people with a billion damage and win 99% of 1v1s even at the same soul count all while being pretty simple to play is actually bad because uhhhhh because sometimes I lose with her Genuinely explain why haze isn't good and name 3 characters who are objectively more easy mode than her (not including infernus and wraith who are basically the same as her anyway and have the same problem)
>>542207117oh i didnt realize it was just rank distribution and not actual mmr, no wonder the match i played earlier felt just as fucked up as usual
>>542207506paige is quite a stupid one I agree, but what's wrong with the rest? Lash maybe also a bit goofy, but we don't know for sure yet if it's his real family name or just his fighter nickname
>>542207506would it be better if the book character was called johanne or something retarded like that which didn't have anything to do with what the character doesthe one name i can't take seriously is calico, because she's a fucking sphynx cat and is called calico, it's so stupid
I like how people in low MMR are used to being matchmaking guinea pigs being forced to 1v1 a top player on 'rank decay' or smurf account, but the moment Valve touches Oracle to Eternus people go nuclear.>wah wah my rank>you're only supposed to worsen match quality for new players!!!I saw someone argue they should've left Oracle to Eternus alone this update. The conceit and self importance is out of this world.
>called drifter>doesn't drift, he sucks???
>>542207109You have to actually be talented, be already extremely wealthy, be lucky, and/or grind a lot if you wanna make money off of content creationI'm an actual content creator. I like to think I'm talented but more importantly I've been lucky enough to be blessed with a small following, but without a lot more luck, I'm not making real money off of this until I've been grinding for a couple more years.
>>542207506>is from not-hell and has fire and stuffInfernus>killed 7 dudes onceSeven>has ivies growing around her armsIvy>is a doormanDoormanWho the fuck writes this shit
>>542207803hope you stub your toe later
So did all the already high ranked players get shoved into Eternus 6? Lmao it must be hell there right now.
>>542207506It's standard MOBA writing, really do not expect anything deep, although it will offer you something resembling a story at times. The goal is probably something stupid like 100 characters.
>Is viscous>
>>542207506Valve is just too clever.
>>542207475>>542207803No, I don't plan to be a famous person and make millions per month.And I'm not expecting to quit my job and make this a full time job.I just want to make a few hundreds pocket money as a side gig.
>>542207475To be fair, that's basically anything.
>>542207642Haze has low starting hp and low starting clip.People pick her up after getting stomped but they don't know about certain things like her clip scaling with spirit and get stomped in lane instead.She also lacks the generic nuke/spirit damage skills that most people fall onto when they can't aim.
>>542207642>sleep dagger when pressuredWorks on one person, is a skillshot.>can invis awayStill visible within a certain range, and it won't save her from being chased by multiple people because it has no inherent anti-slow (unlike Infernus flame dash with an inherent 50% resistance) and she needs to build sprint speed.>lazer(sic) beam people with a billion damageHer M1 being her main source of damage also means she lacks versatility in her damage. This means disarming hex and firerate slows are especially damaging to her. Her ultimate drops off in damage very sharply if more than one person is in it, she has to pay a 6.4k Ricochet tax to get it to do work on multiple. Nothing is stopping them from using an ability to stop her ultimate as she has no inherent silence or protection. She is also the squishiest of the M1s.
>>542207891I'll do it just for you
>>542207890>has ivies growing around her armsactually it's a bit more clever than that because she has the number 4 in romans (IV) carved on her body as well
>>542208076do a "stepped on a lego" tiktok
>>542200418>>542200292>>542200282Alright gonna give him another try. In general I just want items to keep them inside my ult and generic counters purple/gun boosters?
>>542207920i think they're trying to go for TF2 style lore this time instead of typical dota padding and with the visual novels in the works i cant imagine the game not having a somewhat deep story
How do I even close out a game like this without feeding my ass off trying to take walkers by myself after getting a lead
>>542208034>they don't know about certain things like her clip scaling with spirit and get stomped in lane instead.I don't care about spirit in lane, and I stomp the enemies instead.There's no point to get more bullets in lane since people are mostly hiding behind walls & pillars.And the spirit certainly doesn't help with the lane. What are you gonna do? Knife the enemy to death?
>>542207779>>542207915people in high rank are super gate keep-y and up themselves about rank. Was watching an eternus match a few days ago and a shiv wasn't doing so good and his teammate was having the worst tantrum about it>wow they just give e6 to anyone these daysThen he just started to AFK in base and tell the enemy team where his own teammates were. Like, the high ranks of Deadlock are so mentally ill for some reason that sportsmanship is unironically better in the middle ranks. I bet the people in Eternus before the change are having a meltie right now >IT'S NOT FAIR THEY DIDNT EARN IT LIKE I DID (stacking with my homos)>THIS IS GONNA RUIN MY LOBBIES (even though most of my Eternus matches were against archon to ascendant players anyways)
>>542207642>name 3 characters who are objectively more easy mode than herMo and KrillGray Talon (either gun or spirit build work)Ivy>>542200210Anon for the love of God DO NOT BUILD WARDEN GUN. Warden has one of the best ultimates in the game, that character wins any teamfight he gets to use it in.
>>542208021It's gonna be a real shit side gig that gets you 100 dollars every 3-4 months if you're lucky and only if you're willing to commit to uploading consistently, but it's doableIdk what the numbers for streaming is like but that's been my experience with YouTube
>>542207749honestly it was just a joke I thought the image of Lash whipping niggers was enough of a giveaway
Played against a sincalir that knew how to play and I had to keep tabs on that guy the whole match
>>542208195Ima be real with you, people are coping when they say it will be more like TF2. There's already too many characters to keep track of, it's already entered LoL Arcane territory of "pick your favorites to force a main cast".This is more DOTA adjacent, down to how lazy the character writing is and how on the nose the archetypes were (they *just* changed Frank's name to Victor because it was so bad taste)Their writing is kind of abysmal dogshit because they don't care for it (that) much to begin with, it's not mandatory to the game's success and could actually impede the content conveyor belt.
>>542208165IM A NICE GUY!!!!!!
>>542208195even for just basic in-game stuff, i think this game has the best explanation/setting for the battle of any ASSFAGGOT/hero shooter the whole wish thing is pretty cool and it explains why heroes that would hate each other are willing to cooperate anyways instead of having that OW problem where it makes 0 sense or the TF2 thing where there's a bunch of unexplained "clones" when you play pubs (i know it's a retarded thing to complain about but i'm just nitpicking it to show how effective deadlock's is)
>>542207642Tracking is still harder and less consistent than every spirit carry.
>>542207506Paige is a double entendre
>play muscle wizard sinclair>get talked shit>turn 3 people into rabbits, steal infernus ult and get 3 heavies >just turning people into small animals and beating them>3 of them buy rebuttal as I start to 2 shot punch with max dmg ampnew favorite build unlocked. also instant transmissioning with assistant is priceless.
>>542208394easy way to keep track of everyone narrative wise is the neon prime gang warfare idea. you already have the baxter society, infernus bar goers, wraith card game, vampire society, street vigilantes, boxers etc
>>542208050wrong! dagger haze is now amazing because of the inability to miss point blank, .5s invuln from invis bomb, spell parry and going mercurial magnum/tesla diversifies the damage.
>the narrative elements aren't up to snuff in a multiplayer focused game that isn't out yetHoly shit it's so over
i give it 2 weeks before everyone with high rank will go back to alchemist.
>>542208165permaroot warden is funnierespecially with paige
I legitimately cannot play Shiv, I feel like I'm trying to punch someone in a dream every time I try fighting anyone with him, it's like everything I do just phases through them.
>>542207506>Ivy>connects to you and gives you healthTook me a while >>542208307>>542208749Alright dont worry Im getting monster rounds tho>>542208406IM A MELTING POT OF FRIENDSHIP, IM A NICE GUUUUUUYY!!!! SOME OF MY FRIENDS ARE IXIANS, SOME GARGOYLE AND EVEN WIGHTS!
>>542207642>Genuinely explain why haze isn't goodI can't aim for shit and everyone else in my eternus bracket is gods at aim, so I lose every 1v1 if I play her.
>>542208305Oh, they 100% are having a meltdown. Have a peek in #deadlock-comeptitive on the official server.And it's like, if you want to be high MMR it's easy. Exploit the obvious patch meta (last patch it was Seven + Lightning Scroll for example), go in as a stack, and run an alt account. The best part is a lot of them stumbled into high MMR a long time ago and because the game has no rank reset, they're basically glued in that rank.Their ego is insane, honestly fuck them. The devs are probably scared of properly fixing the matchmaking and resetting everything because they'd hurt the feelings of their ecelebs who made it their whole personality.
>>542208574Neon Prime unironically was the better PvP story. Didn't pretend to tell a story it doesn't have the balls to actually write.After Overwatch, I have zero patience for this blue balling "something will happen" style of writing.
>got the most shitty games post character drop and earlier ranked adjustment, so I eventually got down to Seeker>They put me in Anarchist 6 today>win one, get Ritualist 3Almost back to Emissary, bros
Why doesn't citadel_region_override 1 put me in US servers anymore? I'm tired of playing with stoned eastern european rats
>>542207920>>542208195>>542208394>>542208416Personally I think the writing is pretty good compared to other hero shooters/MOBAsThere's a reason why the character interactions are really popular meanwhile you can't even find half of the overwatch character interactions online but they're put-you-to-sleep boring. I like that the "heroes" aren't too over the top mary sue-ish type important choosen ones (although some of the recent additions are leaning that way) because what's important is the setting as a frame for all kinda of different people to be in one place. And if they're all too amazing, pure of heart, and special but there's also 75 of them it just gets stupid and it's hard to view them as people, and it also detracts from character's who are notable because of their celebrity. A Mole and his buddy being there because they owed money to a mobster really colours the world in but its also down to Earth in its own wayToo many of this genre make each character the "last of their kind", "a one and only entity", "a hero with an ability only they posess". Take McGinnis for example, she's a genuis who builds their own stuff and that stands out in Deadlock but in Overwatch there are like 8+ genuis scientist heroes. And EVERY character is an epic legend leader (like McCree or even Junk Rat), in Deadlock Holliday is just a sheriff with a famous grandfather, and other character shit on the irrelevancy of her celebrity Sometimes less is more
>>542206574>Taking casual pubshit into consideration6s is the premier way to play tf2, and soldier's easily the weakest generalist in it.
I know a guy rn whose actively isolating himself from the group because his newly emissary ass is convinced he's too good to play with everyone else (statlocker says so)
>>542208305>>542208974We're gonna see an uptick of "Eternus" vids too. High rank is gonna be incredibly fucked until everything stabilizes.
>>542208974>the game has no rank resetThere's MMR decay.I didn't play for five weeks and went from eternus to phantom. It took me two months of irregular play to climb back.
>>542208974how do I even look at the official server without a pisscord account?I hope we do get a rank reset.
https://youtu.be/I9hCYoY1uTs?si=T7fBzGzEmJphN4xB&t=4560>doesn't waste a single opportunity to virtue signal about minorities or trannies like in 32:06, 33:16, 45:51, 56:13 or 1:11:16>can't stop gushing for even 2 picoseconds about how cool he thinks psychopaths and serial killers are like in 1:12:41 or 1:16:00the world desperately needs less disgusting filth like him
>>542209585how am I expected to use this youtube thing if I don't have a dookle account-tier
>>542209447>There's a reason why the character interactions are really popular meanwhile you can't even find half of the overwatch character interactions online but they're put-you-to-sleep boring.It really is the same thing between Deadlock and Overwatch. Similar writing style, even. I don't see the difference.>Too many of this genre make each character the "last of their kind", "a one and only entity", "a hero with an ability only they posess". I do agree, this is something I like about Deadlock, but it doesn't magically put it into "good writing" territory. It's basically all just PvP banter and like, 1-3 paragraphs of backstory that doesn't say all that much. There's nothing to work with outside of character design, it's gacha tier.
>>542209662>go 25-4 as shiv>rank up from alchemist 3 to ritualist 3they are fixing the mmr system for sure
>>542209467>emissaryThat's literally the rank I was before I was ranked up into Phantom. And even then I consider Phantom quite low. Did your friend just start playing 2 weeks ago? Current emissary is sewer rank right now, tell him that. He may a well just have fun is super duper poopoo rank with you and your group then solo sewer 5 hoping to get into Toilet 1
>>542208906official backstory is that she's called Ivy because she was covered in ivy when the Arroyos found her, and their youngest named her that.
>>542209547Rank decay is cancer because I unironically was getting Phantom players in Ritualist. Even as a playtest we need something resembling seasons as they're constantly changing the algorithm.
>two games with cheaters in a rowthey need harsher punishment for these subhumansVAC bans are not enough
>>542209467emissary is literal shitlow
>>542208305>open that channel>some foid genuinely complaining about not having e6 teammateswhat’s funny is that ALL of these “competitive” retards will be forgotten and demoted when this game releases with real rewards and playerbase
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>>542209420reply
>>542209952wtf I didn't know the doorman was based?
>>542209491So now the top 1% percentile rank may become the top 3% percentile? Why is this a problem?
>stomp enemy team one game>team is playing perfectly>next game>I get the team full of tards>the type that run after a spirit Infernus in flame dash>he even types "?" as he got three kills that wayepic
>>542210197Flaring egos.
>>542207272where are you retards getting these ideas from? they didnt do any mm changes. yoshi said they changed the rank badges to better represent your mmr by making them percentile based instead of fixed value based.
the only reason you complain about haze is because you stand out in the open, get to max stacks, don't wait for them to expire, and then have a shitfit when you die because your positioning is ASS
@542209619Buy an ad, tranny.
>>542210345How do you know badges aren't considered in matchmaking? I don't know about you but matches have been playing quite differently already.
here comes the lash
>>542210481Actually I complain about Haze because she's black
>>542210702What if she's actually white underneath the smoke?
>only time the game is fun is when someone on the other team is feeding so hard you can power yourself up enough to solo the enemy team>half the time the enemies do the same to you>close games are just boring as fucki'm thinking this game isn't for me
>>542210657
>>542210657Because your hidden MMR value is a far better and easier way to determine your skill level.
>>542209619Went to the first time stamp. I mean, Friends of Humanity in lore are dictionary bigots. That is the right word to use.I think you may be retarded, correct me if I'm wrong. Not even going to bother to see the other timestamps.
>>542209743>I don't see the difference.Surely you're being facetious>but it doesn't magically put it into "good writing" territoryWhy do you think the writing is bad? I think the setting is pretty great. It's a cool world with many fun ideas. OSIC, Ixia, prophet arms race. As for the zipline dialogue, it's fine, good only in comparison to its contemporaries. But pregame dialogue can only be so much anyways. Actually, a lot of it is quite amusing and really bring the characters to life: stuff like Geist recognising Pocket's jacket make but not Arin or Grey Talon's revenge speech. They're punchy and get a good bit across in the tiny window they have. Some lines stink, especially a lot of Paige's and Billy's ones, and some are flawed but they're pretty good overall especially if you compare it to overwatch. Saying they're indistinguishable is either a complete fib or complete ignorance>it's gacha tierNow you're just being a hater for the sake of it. I don't play gacha but surely that's dogshit tierI mean, take the Geist VN, even as an incomplete WIP leak, there's little bad to say about it as an accoutrement to the character
>>542209420please respond
why the fuck do games even have hidden mmr
>>542211019so "unranked" games aren't decided as soon as the match startsdeadlock doesn't have proper casual or ranked modes right now though
>>542209952Yeah I just had a Haze cheater in a game. Looked at Statlocker and noticed another game in my history with Haze in Ascendant rank. Both times they were on my team at least but it really makes the game pointless if it happens.
>>542211019The number exists for a variety of technical reasons but they don't show it because casuals are intimidated by number going up or down
>>542210856sure, but that's not the point, the guy goes out of his way every 5 seconds to talk about how much he loves minorities, or community or whatever, then raves on and on about how cool he thinks serial killers and psychopaths are. You know, people who hurt, use, abuse or kill innocents. I was just hoping to see anyone else who thought he's an idiot. But I guess all I'll get is even bigger losers like: >>542210643
no one caresgo and blog somewhere else
>>542209447>I like that the "heroes" aren't too over the top mary sue-ish type important choosen ones (although some of the recent additions are leaning that way)one thing in particular that i like is for example when they released billy i was kind of annoyed at an r/anarchism fag type character existing but they make it apparent that a lot of the cast also hate him for his soapbox habits and find him annoying. usually these types of characters are written clearly with the attention of being self absorbed and mighty but it just makes the player hate the character more when theres nothing in the game acknowledging their ignorance and pompousness
>>542210926>Why do you think the writing is bad?It takes place in the past but is not period accurate, even with a vague date of 1940-1980. Half the characters don't have a motive. Those that do will remain thoroughly unexplored because it's a PvP game. What these people actually do in specific is left undefined, how the Patron achieves their wishes is left undefined, what the Patrons want is undefined, character relations are hovering on simultaneously canon and noncanon. So I have to ask why the fuck get invested in this?>I don't play gacha but surely that's dogshit tierIt's actually better because there tends to be a main story and canon main cast. Deadlock is literally all banter.The Geist VN is kind of shit but the effort was appreciated. Read literally any other visual novel.
>>542211120Nevermind it's the same game, he just has a different name on Statlocker. I just don't understand the point of cheating. It's not like you're doing it to gain YouTube/Twitch subs/ money nor win a tournament, again for money. He wasn't even wiping the floor with the lobby, it's just embarrassing
>>542211326>then raves on and on about how cool he thinks serial killers and psychopaths areIsn't that a good portion of the TF2 player base? It's fiction, no one needs you to police what is or isn't cool. People like antiheroes and villains in media, more news at 11.
>>542211019Because there's literally zero reason for them to show you MMR.
>>542210657because the badges are only visual representations of a number expressing your skill level (mmr). why would they use the visual instead of the actual number? are you really this fucking retarded
>>542211383this is the place to do that btwi care
>Shoot foot lady in the feet and kill her>Apologize in the chat
>>542211616sure, but fictional or not, they are still representations of something, and because of it, I'm not talking about the pixels on screen, I'm talking about the people raving about them. Sometimes I just get tired of people and modern society, and seek validation to feel some sort of hope about humanity, sorry dude. You can go back to watch squid games death compilations or whatever.
>>542211383Plenty of places like r*ddit and the cord for you to shut out meanie chuds making fun of your video. Maybe go there instead?
>>542209952
>8 game losing streakI'm facing nothing but tanky teams with kelvin and mo and it's so difficult to score any kills.
>>542211019realistically, it's multiple number weights. There isn't a 'score' other than your badge bracket, which isn't a factor other than being generally grouped.
>>542211019Hidden MMR is very "sticky" and is supposed to not swing whenever someone has a lucky win streak or an unlucky loss streak. The shown rank is more easily influenced by wins and losses.
>>542212109I went up against a team that had Viscous, Paige, and Ivy. 2 of them bought Rescue Beams. I wanted to stab my eyes out during every teamfight.
>>542211980>seek validation to feel some sort of hope about humanity>i do this by watching shitty ragebait tierlists and then crying on 4chanwaow
>>542208305The top 1% of any game is always full of manchildren that nolife the game constantly because they have literally nothing else going on, it's not surprising they're mostly a bunch of spergsMidrank is dads who play deadlock during their limited gaming hours, people with other hobbies, and so on
>>542206815>>542207642>>542208034>>542209965The black wοman οf Valve unοriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>542212109this game lowkey needs a tankbuster hero that has an ability based on max hp % damageIt can even just be an ult
>>542211448>It takes place in the past but is not period accurate, even with a vague date of 1940-1980I don't see why this is bad. Alternate history settings are, by nature not gonna be period accurate which are fine and I'm pretty sure there is a canon date (it's like 1940 something, it's on a box somewhere), as for Billy looking like that? Not really a writing issue. >Half the characters don't have a motive.I'm sure that's gonna be fleshed out more as stuff gets revealed+added but when the setting is "A wish Granting God shows up" it doesn't require a great imagination to think of why criminals, the desperate, and government soldiers would be there. And in my opinion, it's more fun when it's more vague as the reality is, that's how it is for "wishes". Similar to Geist's VN where the wish can be different depending on small factors. Intrigue is an important part of writing. >how the Patron achieves their wishes is left undefinedThat's not bad writing. It's a juvenile mistake to think magic and science needs a full detailed explanation in a story to be acceptable. This isn't a logics doctrine; the function of the patrons is not mechanical, only really conceptual at least in the "story" of the game. >gacha playerConsidering you respond to me mentioning Geist's VN (which isn't even a VN, just a youtube video of some VN scenes) with "read literally any other visual novel" makes me think you might just be a moron. Maybe read real books instead of looking at chinese gamble apps. Half your "points" have just been autistic nitpicks at things that aren't even bad writing, just frustrations you're personally have. Why don't you name a gacha with good writing then so we can all have a good laugh about it. It's very clear you're not gonna be convinced because you think it's bad writing because... you don't like it. Whereas I'm not gonna be convinced becuase I think it's NOT bad because I'm being comparative.
>>542212368that's alright, anon. I'm not angry, plus you got all the media in the world to consume until nothing matters and nothing means anything anymore, congrats
Just a simple reminder to all of our reddit/discord friends!1. You will always be a mentally ill man.2. If they were real people, every single deadlock character would either be confused by your mental illness (viscous, ivy), act polite but want nothing to do with you (abrams, infernus), or outright mock your ghoulish appearance (seven, billy).3. Once you finally gain some self-recognition about your dreaded state, you will immediately consider suck-starting a shotgun.4. The only thing you'll leave behind will be a skeleton (unmistakably male), and a steam account (unmistakably boosted).
>>542212757>willingly watch almost 2 hours of literal dogshit>instant anyone says anything negative about you start sperging out about them just being mindless consoomersok
>>542212556>decent at video games>not a dad but still employed>trapped in ascendant with the people convinced they would be the best rank in the world if it wasn't for their team
mina ha findom sounds hot tbdesu
>>542213009I will ai generate art of her being fixed instead
>>542213053Indian hours already, huh?
>>542209952This is funny because aimbotter is always either doorman or holliday
https://statlocker.gg/profile/1287992646/matches>mentally ill furry is smurfing so hard he wins a 4v6 gamethis game is fucking dead how is this allowed
>>542213009Maybe if she was an older woman and her hair was white and she wore a more sleek dress and one of her arms was green
>>542213234true true true and true
>>542209796he's /newly/ emissary, previously alchemist, 600 hours
>>542213098Doorman doesn't need to aimbot because of his fuckhuge projectileHolliday only vaguely benefits from aimbot because crackshot has a cooldown, cheaters don't have the patience for maxing out an ability to be effectiveAimbotters are Haze or Infernus 90% of the time because their passives become disgusting when you're at max firerate and always hitting the head.
>>542213174>this game is fucking dead
>>542212965I don't wanna side with the troons anon, but holy fuck.If you projected any harder I could stick a lens up your ass and use you to watch pirated moves on my walls.
>>542213386>alchemist, 600 hours
>>542213174>this game is fucking deadlock
>>542213518
>>542213518I'm a similar rank after a similar number of hours, I just never played a moba before Deadlock
>>542213386i'm former archon turned ascendant with 700 hours and i'm ass, that dude is giga ass
>>542213553>"If I don't lock in now, I'm dead!">John Deadlock
what if mina instead of sucking blood sucked piss
>>542206652I want to rape Haze
>>542211798>why would they use the visual instead of the actual numberBecause badges represent clean divisions of skill level, and many multiplayer matchmaking systems further accommodate divisions between ranks in various ways (eg rank decay, promotion). Truth is neither of us know the full internals of Deadlock's matchmaking, it's all just a vibe check on our side.>>542212742> Alternate history settings are, by nature not gonna be period accurate It's pushing past suspension of disbelief. Magic hit New York and in the span of a few years they can build talking robots, small turrets, and modern weaponry? There is a reason Fallout went for an "alternate future" as opposed to an "alternate past". Gave them more freedom and let the art steer the worldbuilding a bit more.>I'm sure that's gonna be fleshed out moreI'd give them the benefit of the doubt, but go read DOTA 2's lore and come back. A large portion of the core Deadlock team comes from that game. They care more about pumping out characters than telling a story. It's not that kind of game.> It's a juvenile mistake to think magic and science needs a full detailed explanation in a story to be acceptableIt's not about magic needing to be explained. The Patron is a key plot point, how the Patron carries out the "Heroes'" wishes is very important. Would Ivy be happy if the Patron had to kill a bunch of innocent people to keep Harlem safe? No. This is not an extraneous sideplot.>Considering you respond to me mentioning Geist's VN (which isn't even a VN, just a youtube video of some VN scenes)I mean it literally by definition is a visual novel. Even looking at it on it's own merits, ignoring the bar set in the genre, it doesn't do anything for the characters the 3 paragraph bios didn't already do.Deadlock has decent banter, great voice delivery, but a story as shallow as the games people compare it to.
>>542212968I just wanted to play some games and keep some video playing on the background, and even then, I stopped listening to that guy right as he started jerking it to the mere concept of drifter as a character. I don't plan to watch him in the future either. I don't plan on wasting more of my time here, you can go ahead and call me names or whatever, here's your carpet roll:
its funny, I saw a lot of familiar names today but the match quality vastly improved because people were taking the game more seriously due to their ranks, comming more, and not raging at each otherthe simple shift in mentality increased how good the games were even though it was basically only cosmetic
>542213510Blud really bringing up buttsex while accusing other people of projecting
>>542213985For me players became 20x more shitheads because they realized they were in the top 5% instead of being average.
I FUCKING HATE MOVEMENT TRANNIESI hate what Apex and Valorant have fucking done to zoomer brains and how thats impacting this game. Mobility riddled cancer
Ok its clear that most people agree Gray Talon is bustedIs it a numbers thing? Or is it his kit? It feels like his kit needs a rework, though I suppose his intention is to be a lane oppressor
>>542214213Apex and Valorant are low in mobility outside of interactables and abilities though.Also movement is much more interesting a mechanic than Aimlabs and aimbotting. Just because something is high skill ceiling doesn't mean it's a net positive for the game or should be valued above any adjacent mechanic.
>>542214313disagree, he's in a pretty good place right now
>>542214213Me when I play the hybrid Movement Shooter / MOBA and find that there are Movment Shooter elements
>>542213174epic champ pool
>>542214313A bit of both + spirit items being bonkers broken for a long time.His standard build gives him both strong arrows and an uber retarded broken ult. They really need to change how his bird or arrows scale.
>>542214406>Movement shooterVerbal diarrhea, fucking zoomies
That's cool and everything but where's the priest
>was ritualist>now oracle I dont belong here gang and i feel bad
>>542210926>Why do you think the writing is bad?NTA but honestly while the game's writing while for the most part perfectly enjoyable (Viscous still makes me cringe, and some of Billy's lines don't really stick the landing for me), i hesitate to call it anything special in the context of games as a whole. Definitely above average for PvP stuff, much like Dota is, but ultimately it still suffers from being shackled to an esports format where noone is allowed to be truly uncomfortable or even cuss (this greatly limits the impact of the banter) and everyone must move within a sponsor-dictated exclusion zone. That on top of the fact that everyone will, due to the limitations of the format, be reduced to being a toy with a chatterbox that must be able to be understood without context and never have stories of their own of any real consequence. It's fine because ultimately i'm not looking for a PvP game to wow me with text, and the performances do a lot to sell the characters, but if we're talking in those terms then i feel like pretty much everything that isn't the characters or the lookout fails to convey much of anything about the world thus far. It's fine for the time being since from what i understand a lot of shit about the map and the items is fairly work in progress, but i'd appreciate the bare minimum of personality here and there. At least a couple shoddily painted chinese restaurant billboards, rats skittering about in the sewers, idk. Make the lucky shot gun upgrade a horseshoe possessed by a dead sheriff that made a deal with the devil to never miss a shot or some shit. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
>>542213770>Magic hit New York and in the span of a few years they can build talking robots, small turrets, and modern weaponryIn Deadlock magic has always existed. The malestrom (of which has occurred before) in 1899 just caused it to bleed out everywhere that it became so unlike our world in so many ways. >The Patron is a key plot point, how the Patron carries out the "Heroes'" wishes is very importantIn Roadside Picnic do you think the HOW the wish-making functions is instrumental to the story? No. If you need a class on how such a concept can be done read that book because you wouldn't be saying this stuff otherwise. Many stories have done wishmaking plots and almost none of them give an explantion to how it works and you're being beyond autistic to assert that Deadlock's writing is bad because it doesn't do this pointless and poor thing. Geist's VN does not function as a VN and we only call it that because it's shorthand for whatever you can call a WIP half VN that you would see inbetween matches of a different game YouTube video. It think you've entirely misunderstood my point but I feel like I can only be so exhaustive. I think you view writing too linearly and definitely too selectively. Frankly I think you're not much of an authority on writing or its critique and I think you should remedy this before asserting things beyond your own feelings.
>>542214213dont worry buddy, there's a game out there just for you
>>542209420help
>>542214213this nigga is mad he can't aim lol!
>>542214892I'm pretty sure we're in agreement. I don't think it's AMAZING or anything, but calling it bad or saying it's gacha or overwatch tier is just pure nonsense. It's unfinished and a competitive multiplayer game. That already having a cool setting and neat yet not overwrought characters is an achievement in itself.
>>542214213>zoomersWait until this retard finds out people have been bunnyhopping and zooming across maps in deathmatches ever since shooters were played in dial-up. You're the tourist here nigger
>>542214213go play rivals you inbred
This is what Calico would look like if valve developers could visualize the apple in their head.
>>542213094Oh I see, you're a dalit american pig who enjoys women who are whores and disobedient. Yes go fuck your vampire slut in your mind Krisha cut your dick off bastard
>>542215158I went to comicon in London like this year and there was an indie dev area and one booth was some shitty unity engine arena shooter and I sat down and started b hopping and airstrafing so I was going around the tiny monochrome map at mache 3 and since we were all on controller no one could shoot me.
>>542214665You're a millennial
>all oracles are now ascendants>therefore majority of ascendants now have zero macrothey'll get filtered and drop to phantom within a week
>>542215415ascendant 2 to eternus 6 was a whopping 500 players in NA before, this was good to more evenly spread out the ranks
>https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/played-as-mina-in-this-match-and-after-i-quit-normaly-game-placed-2-low-p-matches-after-1-lose-on-low-prioprity-game-added-more-4-matches-in-low-p.85359/Is he right?
>>542215560don't quit > don't get put into low prioit's that easy
>>542215539it was, i was asc for a while and rarely ever got asc matches at all. i dont mind the skill range being wider as long as the system correctly funnels down the overranked shitters and stays able to populate asc+ matches
>>542215560>slav subhuman sperging out on forumLiterally showing us he has no self control and the maturity of a 4 year old. No surprise he gets reported and leaves games
>>542215560this dude posted like 15 games in one day what the fuck
>>542215752they're all short games though it looks like he trolls and people give up lol
>>542214213This retard can't circle jump from bridge to rail
Valve should've made demons in this universe more like pic related.
I can't wait for them to add Cadence and she's a big demoness babe
>>542214213valorant is not a movement shooter you retard its slow as balls. kill yourself if you don't want to get good at the game
You could post clips from Valorant and Apex Legend and I couldn't tell you which is which
>>542214892>writing can't be good unless everyone's saying fuck and vagina all the time
how the fuck is gun doorman still not nerfed
>>542214909>Many stories have done wishmaking plots and almost none of them give an explantion to how it works and you're being beyond autistic to assert that Deadlock's writing is bad because it doesn't do this pointless and poor thing. I would not believe Ivy would just walk up to a Patron, form some kind of contract involving shooting up largely uninvolved New Yorkers. And it can't be something else, otherwise she would not even be in the story. It's just not believable unless I'm willing to be incredibly, astronomically generous.And lets be generous and call the Patron's wishes an "ambiguous plot device". Okay, so what do the characters do actually in New York? Oh right, it's not written in, it's completely just not there.The banter's fun, the story is basically not there. We really really do not have much to work with here. Off the top of my head:>Infernus wants to save Jezebels!Why the fuck does he need a Patron for this.>Ivy wants to save HarlemShe literally already did and wouldn't be irresponsible enough to summon a Patron.>Kelvin wants to find out who he wasIn a world full of mystics, why bother with a Patron?>Haze wants to... uhm...Literally unwritten, to the point where it's been canonized that her not knowing what she wants to do is the point (omg so deep)It's so ass the moment you start asking anything about the characters.
>>542217086Uh oh new boogeyman found
>>542214868Start running pal
>>542217086It's not that good, the hitbox is just big. Even Viscous is a more viable gun pick.
I've almost hit 400 games on viscous, and I think im starting to understand puddle punchIts a free melee hit, and the most powerful movement ability, and a bebop hook, and sometime even just a smoke bomb
>>542214868>give up on rank and try new characters, losing a bunch of games in the process>everyone gets a rank up>im just put back to my original rankmood
>>542217086Literally just disarming hex himYou DO buy counter items right Anon?
>>542217315this happened to me.
wasn't aware of just how shit i was at the game until i got leapfrogged into fucking eternus for some reason
>>542217468NOTHING CHANGED RETARDYOU ARE PLAYING THE EXACT SAME GAMES ARE BEFORE
>>542217086it genuinely isn't that viable or good compared to any other M1
>>542217086half of doorman's power is in his 2, everything else about him is medicore
>>542217503>ARE BEFOREhaha you're brown
>>542217468Game claims I am somewhere between seeker and alchemistI have been the designated losing element of several archon and emissary games beforeIt's ok bro, just play focus on your enjoying the game
Considering some people jumped more badges than others their games should not "be the same"
>>542217503Except I'm playing against high elo streamers that I never saw before so evidently something changed under the hood>b-but Yoshi--is a fucking liar
>>542217503anon's source: idk how matchmaking works internally i just like yelling ;)
>>542217503no ur the retard dumbass the game literally ranks you with similar ranks so if you get higher you will be higher rank games
I'm getting gaped in Phantom man it's direI've lost 4 games in a row and I haven't even gone down one tier
>>542217706that might just be a regional thing though
Who is a decent deadlock streamer I can watch. Not looking to be a better player just want something on the second monitor when I'm working
>>542217997The phantom games really don't seem any different to me from the ritualist games I was in yesterday. I'm still winning them just as easily.
>>542218012Northernlion is funny but I don't know if he'll stream it again.
i think they overcorrected too hardmy games are exactly the same but now everyone has an ego
>>542218012when sneakylol (old league player) plays it i find it enjoyable background noise
>new to the game just 40 hours in>was Initiate 1>now Im Seeker 1This is a mistake right? Everybody is way smarter and clearly not a new player like me because they know the movement tech well enough to leave in the dirt.
>Paige in lane that builds nothing but support items and funnels all the resources into meGet the FUCK off of me I can't carry games you fucking sicko. You aren't pinning this loss on me I won't let you
>>542218363>she does this>I do carry the game>everyone says how good she is at the gamethis dude spoke in voice so everyone knew it was a man, why the fuck do supports get so much praise for throwing a shield on me while I do the work FUCK
>play with friends>feel bad because they're all higher rank than me and thus I anchor the team by losing lane>play alone>feel bad because I'm playing this game alone even if I do well
>>542215560Losing low prio games now adds more required wins to the counter? What the fuck? I was put in low prio a year ago and I only needed to win 1, but I lost 5 times before that happened. I can't imagine how torturous that must be now. I'd just make a new account and never look back
>>542218361The difference between initiate 1 and seeker 1 is like a penny to a nickel. Back in 2024 there were only a triple digit amount of players in Initiate in its entirety. Only two people in Initiate 1.
Golden infernus
>>542218585I dont think so I think he just got reported or abandoned again and he's too retarded/drunk to realize afking also abandons not just leaving
Just did 98000 damage as vyper. Started spirit then went full gun build. Not sure if ricochet is splitshot is better on her late game
>>542218647I feel there's a sharp contrast between the rank because everybody knows how to move efficiently and before everybody was sluggish.
>>542218647I remember when initiate was so novel it was quaint to see a replay posted here of that rank.
>>542218497Oh boo fucking hoo Fuck off you attention whore
>>542218891>start spirit, gun lateras i thought that seems like the way to go because her spirit damage is absurdly overtuned during laning
>>542218891>Not sure if ricochet is splitshot is better on her late gameget both for laughs
>>542219453those two items are such weird choices. there have to be better 6ks for her.
>been playing a lot victor because he’s fun and fits my playstyle>however struggle to take objectives because I HAVE to rely on my team >no map pressure, I cannot even push up in case of a gank because no escape tools>walker also get a fucking STUN so one has to waste eshift to even try get main source of dmg from aura to hurt the walker>also have to tailor my build perfectly to not melt>try infernus>sit on side lane with a free escape>easily end games 10k+ doing most objective damageHonestly just remove the walker stomp. This shit is ruining the game, and I’m glad Yoshi is considering getting rid of it
>>542219536Why? If you are hitting two people that's a +100% damage buff. Not to mention applying neurotoxin which is not only big damage but also 40% antiheal that doesnt require a slot.
>>542219651dude just bait the walker stomp and then dash outalso victor is known for being good at melting objectives
>>542219651Walker stomp should movement lock like billy knockup but not full stun
>>542219651>>542220093Literally just bait like that anon said, run out using 2 if you're bad at timing it.
We need to give Paradox charges on her Kinetic Carbine, and entirely remove the wind-up feature and make it instant, while increasing the size of the projectile. We also need to lower the cooldown on Paradox's Time Wall and give it an inherent curse. We should also increase Paradoxical Swap's range by an infinite amount, and give it a % execute.Lastly, we need to make Paradox fly, while tripling her weapon damage.
somehow my games have gotten worse after the update
>>542220446what a fascinating dive into how retarded the average paradox player is, even comparing the character to GT means you dont fundamentally understand your own character
>>542220554I don't play Paradox, but you should tell about how Gay Talon is actually fair and balanced because uh he has low HP o algo (his only weakness)
>>542220554he didn't even try and you fell for itmaybe i'm falling for you pretending to fall for it
is playing abrams keyed or no
>>542220761abrams players are my top 3 favorite playerbases, theyre almost always chill as fuck or entertaining so yeah I guess
>>542220093>>542220332I mean that’s true and thanks for trying to give tipsI can usually manage that, but I guess my main point is how gay it is that gun/m1 heroes have a massive advantage in taking objectives >>542220190years it also feels awful when it does nothing to help youThis mechanic just sucks in general all to serve homosexual lash players who ult you into it
After today's update i'm now Ascendant 3, is the highest rank i have ever been in any game. Which is funny because all things considered i play this very casually
>>542221035Yeah but those M1 heroes that can melt objectives don't tend to have immense tankiness and a revive. Still I can't agree with nerfing Walkers at this point, they are already so pathetic.
>>542221105time to take it seriously and go pro then
>>542221105Mobas have always been an IQ+emotion test if you have basic mechanical skill and make good decisions you can be really good
Do I play a game before bed or just go to bed
>walker>doesn't walk
>>542220761abrams is the most keyed egged based pepe sneed hero in deadlock i am afraid https://files.catbox.moe/3wc9ld.mp4
>>542221158Nah, i'm not actually good. Still get stomped horribly when matched against Eternus players, it's like they're playing another game entirely. Plus i'm 30, can't keep up with them whippersnappers
>>542221204I clapped seeing thisso much soul
>>542221204you're down 9k on an abrams. literally inted
>team mindlessly groups as 5 and pushes mid>literally>all>game>but they don't actually have the balls to hit the walker, so they get held off by 3 people all game, sometimes even getting shitrolled by Seven clicking his ult and some guy in the mic going "FUCKING HATE SEVEN">meanwhile I'm basically the only one stopping two different lanes from getting pushed in>the only teamfight we won is because I 5 man ulted>we get midboss>we push mid>the entire team dies to Seven (again)>we barely manage to hold the base, kill 2 people>we could push all lanes out and then go for a pick>no we should group as 5 and push mid again because they lost 2 people>whole team dies to Seven>loseWhat the actual fuck was that
>>542221385nvm sorry webm compression hit when i looked
>>542221385
>>542221204that fake out into 180 degree turn into actually punching you anyways at 10 seconds made me laugh.absolutely no shame.
Please for the love of God let me surrender.... if the enemy team is up 30k it is impossible to win..
>>542217086takes a shit ton of yellow/gun investment and relies heavily on the cart stun for guaranteed burst damage. I won't downplay, but it's just a viable semi-carry build rather than a true hyper gun carry like ivy. if you start treating his cart like an abram's shoulder charge, you immediately win the confrontation without cart
any guides on playing shiv? was bumped up to ascendant 3 from archon 5 today and despite everyone sperging out about how matchmaking wasn't changed my lobbies have been measurably more difficult and it's made me realize i have no idea how to properly play him. i feel like i have no hp in fights, no movement to get to fights, or no damage in fights - it just ends up turning into ultbot shiv waiting to have people low and press button to win most of the time outside of lategame.i try to build trophy collector and movement items like fleetfoot and enduring speed so i can get to fights faster and snowball, but even when buying improved spirit and tankbuster i feel like i have 0 agency in most teamfights and it's disappointing to myself and teammates
>>542221791well start by not buying fucking trophy collector what the fuck you are a god at skirmishes and the mid game and you are throwing that away for trophy collector
>>542221791>i try to build trophy collectorholy fucking shit
>>542221791you're a tank meant to soak up damage and press 4. the snatch melee hit -> arctic blast -> dash combo also kills everything, so just go pure green/purple
>>542221935>>542221949i regularly hit the cap on trophy and figured it made an impact but i wasn't sure ;_; im sorry
>>542221791all the damage you need is spirit snatch, cold front and decay for building and keeping rage updon't bother with speed items, you gain a +2m buff on max rageif you're having trouble finding yourself in fights, you need to rotate better and get better at predicting when fights will spark (what we young call gamesense)
>>542221791>any guides on playing shiv?Just do the standard spirit snatch, tankbuster, cold front, mystic shot build that everyone does.Unless there's a Victor on the enemy team. If that happens you need to build gun items instead or he'll just run at you and kill you.
if you try to buy trophy collector the game should just force you to buy cultist instead
>>542222050i'm unsure if it's just an archon and below thing but most of the time i find lanes are just constantly being pressured by troopers and we have 0 waves defending so despite calling to people to fix lanes i've always felt forced to fix waves or just lose walkers for free, so i figured having some form of movement would be nice since you don't get rage from npcs anymore. i've kept decay but i will keep spirit snatch in mind :)
>want to buy a green to stop instantly dying>it doesn't help at all>I have now also fucked up my build progression and wasted my moneyHow do I live longer?
>>542222264if you dont even post who youre playing how do you expect advice you donut
>>542222186trophy collector seriously needs to be 1600 or buffed with an actually good stat (+ movespeed or resists)
>>542222264position betteryou have 100% damage reduction when you're behind a wall.
>>542222240spirit snatch is absurd, just go for light melees; your dash usually gives you a good window for a surprise light melee.enduring speed is still fine, I guess there's not much issue with it, I love the speed myself.what's likely happening with the minions is that you and/or your teammates are only clearing a single enemy minion wave. You need to clear two waves to make sure that your minions will have enough health to keep pushing forward rather than getting pushed back by the healthy enemy minions.
>>542222264Buy things that help with CC instead of just resistance because that's usually what gets you killed. Like get e-shift, reactive barrier, or counterspell.Instead if it's someone just mag dumping into you, get disarming hex. If it's a calico jumping on you and oneshotting you, get better positioning, and maybe get silence wave to try to shut her down in team fights.
>>542222264playing in the archon matches i had before today i was able to always be top3 and fight most fights without issue so i've sort of pavlov'd myself into thinking it's useful on shiv but it's clear now it's not - never was a fan of trophy on any hero but tried it in more than 30 matches prior to today and never was punished for having it. good to know now it's clearly not a good option :) thanks folks, will take your suggestions and apply them
>>542222264post a match ID
>>542222343i've always been against melee in general since it's easily punishable but to be honest i was unaware it proc'd on light melees too (despite a 2x cd). i'm aware of how to clear lanes but most teammates i see clear the single wave and ignore the Very Obvious wave coming in to destroy the low hp friendly wave, and most times i find telling teammates to clear both waves goes through one ear out the other :(
>play haze>spend the whole match getting run down by paradox and calico>win anyways because our vyper was untouched and farmed up to 50kobnoxious game even though i won
>>542222330KINETIC PULSE!
>brool is breaking out>but a wave (maybe even two) is pushing up to our walker on the opposite side of the map>playing damage hero, feel like i should be at the fight as a result, but nobody else wants to clear the lanesis it bad of me to not be in fights in favor of making sure our shit doesn't get pushed or is it unironically something someone else should be doingi don't mind being the one to clean up the creep waves i just wanna make sure i know how to tell if it's the right call
>>542222994have money? fightno have money? clean wavemany niggas at the fight? push walker
>>542207890>SevenHe got the name (and kit) from Sven
i hate stomp dynamo so much
>>542223040t. stompee
>>542223040double jump
>>542222724It sure is great how some AOEs like Kinetic Pulse are allowed to completely ignore walls and line of sight, while others got explicitly targeted and neutered into simple flat planes that can be easily invalidated.Yoshi doesn't have favorites though, no way.
>>542222994if people choose a stupid fight that accomplishes nothing over macro, that's on them.every time i have decided to lose farm to join a stupid fight i have regretted it.
>>542223095Doesn't double jump not work anymore? I thought they buffed stomp's vertical height so when he gets range upgrades you're shit out of luck
>>542223040>range scales off of spiritwtf now I want to play dynamo
didn't take long to derankthis matchmaking still sucks ass
>Trying to play Doorman>Can't aim so every time I do gun build I do horribly>Try spirit build>No idea what to buy after three items and it's boring as hell throwing out two bells, maybe a cart, and then having to run for the hills because Doorman is so fucking squishy he'll die if more than one of the enemy team looks at him funny>Nobody I normally group up with wants to play with me until I have an improvement in rank, and now that it's all fixed that seems impossible unless I buckle down and play the character "correctly"Is Spirit Doorman SUPPOSED to be boring?
>>542224101all spirit characters are bring except lash and pocket
>>542223415Not going to fix itself in one day retard bro
>>542224101You dont need aim to play gun doorman. You use your cart to stun them and hit for free.You also probably fail to understand how to play spirit in a fun and engaging way.
>>542224101>I'm badcool post
>suffering game>god game>misery game>enemy team is a fleshlight gameCan't remember the last time a match was even
>>542223415I ranked up after a few games
>>542224294>shit before>still shit now (but it will totally get better)damn that makes me feel better as a new player getting stomped every game in arcanist
>>542224378Cart also requires aiming, even better aiming as it is slower than a bullet.>>542224701I never said I wasn't shit at this game, I just feel like something has gone horribly wrong if the trying to learn how to play it the proper way makes it LESS fun
>>542224909>(but it will totally get better)deadlockers are addicted to copium
Honestly, Haze would be so much better if Fixation wasn't as fucked as it was
Guys, I think I just fucking hate this game. Why can't I stay away when it's nothing but faggotry and frustration?
>>542225097just arcane dash into them so it's bigger and longer (no homo)
how do I itemize as wraith against a fed haze?
>>542204872>>542204872>>542204872THIS LITERALLY MEANS THAT PEOPLE IN EU WERE MUCH MORE SKILLED THAN NA PLAYERS LMFAOARCHON IN EU = ASCENDANT IN NAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAAAHAHAHAHA HAHAAAHAAHAAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAAAHAAHAAHAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAAHAAAHAHHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHHAAAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I HOPE I NEVER HAVE TO SEE ANOTHER RUSSIAN NIGGER EITHER!!!!!HOW WILL NA EVER RECOVER FROM THIS
>moved to emissary 3 from alch 3>people in my games somehow become worse
>>542227229moron
>>542227229how does it mean that in the slightest
>>542227229>HOW WILL NA EVER RECOVER FROM THISOnly the subhuman wiggers care, any being of intellect already is aware of the state of us.
>>542227313>We're updating rank badges globally. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHANIGGER IN NA DOESN'T KNOW
>>542227561so you're delusional, got it.
>hit yamato with shock>she just heals it right backI don't play Yamato, but she seems to have far more self healing than Victor. I know her slash has lifesteal but what the hell keeps healing her this much with her longer slash? I don't get it. She would heal like 1/3rd of her health bar with each strike it felt
>I am farmed, fed and doing serious damage in fights>lose anyway cause my team is full of brown FPStards that just want to DIVEDIVEDIVEDIVEDIVE OOGA BOOGAAAAAAAAA ME HIT FAAAAAACE constantly against a literally undiveable comp (either cause they have multiple methods to deny you the kill like Ivy Stone Form, Pocket being Pocket>or they just kill you for trying to play anything other than front-to-back against them-- ie. Warden, Haze, Shiv + a Paige plugging 500+ HP shields into all 3 of them at onceGet these fucking FPStard gorilla niggers out of this fucking gaaaaaaaaame
>third person shooters
new vindicta face sucks, she looks like a kpop singer. i miss the creepy colonial girl
>>542223415>matchmaking is bad when I loseLol
>>542229108it's bad when i'm new and getting into unbalanced games and stomped every game, correct.
Every game is the same>enemy mina gets gigafed by two retards>10 trillion souls behind>midboss roar
>>542210112more like Barage
i simply started playing mo and krill to survive these ascendant lobbys.
bunnymaxxing echo shard sinclair: hot or not?
>>542229580And so another top1000 tank main was born.
I'm Archon 3 now for some reason.
>>542226858Just use your ultimate. If she's smart enough to counterspell or i-frame it, consider curse or silence wave.
>>542229779yes , get melee items too. Lifestrike also slows them in bunny form so they cant get away
Now that ranks have been updated, anyone below ascendant 3 is terrible at deadlock. Phantom and low ascendant join the poop ranks
>>542230278So like how everything below immortal is terrible in dota....
>>542229108NTA, but Yes. Cause normally every loss feels like a state-mandated STOMP where you get 4-5 of the absolute dumbest, blackest retards fucking possible instead of a remotely close game where one team genuinely outplayed the other. 1 in every 100 games feels like it's remotely close at all. The other 99 games are all fucking one team of actual human beings stomping a team of 4-6 brown subhuman inbred retards and it's not fun at all. Nor is it remotely fucking fair.
>>542230278Raise that to eternus 1 at least. Asc 3 is like high archon before. Frankly I thought that anyone below phantom 3 was terrible before the change.
>Emissary 5-archon 3 hover>Ascendant 2 with rank changes>the rank right below eternus, the highest rank?is this game retarded?did they just stuff everyone above Oracle into assorted eternus divisions?
Can't wait to log into my acc and see no rank changes whatsoever
aaaaah fellow Ascendant chads how are we feeling today?
>ritualist 3 to oracle 5 yayyyyyyyyyyy dopamine acquired
Thoughts on gun Paige?
>>542230757Everyone was complaining about matchmaking so they ranked everyone up so they all jerk themselves off and praise Yoshi despite nothing changing, not realizing they've been made fools of like this guy >>542231130
>>542205413This is literally the coolest shit I have seen in all of these shit threads
>>542231224it was pretty good before, got a little nerfed. still alright. Maybe do split shot and the increased velocity meme item but other than that not too great any more
Thematically, Doorman's ult would fit better on Haze.Actually, almost nothing about Haze's spells fits her lore.
I was Initiate 1 for fucks sake why am I arcanist now? PUT ME BACK
>>542230467See nigger, the problem with this mental gymnastic olympic gold medal attempt you're pulling out of your ass here is (you) are not including yourself in the darkies polluting your games. As if you were good, played well, and deserved fair wins so you could feel good about yourself, flatter your deranged ego and stroke your small cock without starting to cry. But you're shit the same as those who blame. You smell bad, you play bad, you suck at carrying your team, you can't communicate, you can't move fast, you can't duel, you can't push, you can't make the right calls and you can't improve. The only thing you're good at is shifting the blame onto everyone else as if you were going 1v11 every fucking game. And you won't even get a medal for that, cause the eternus streamers are already hogging the podium.
>>542231306Express Shot + Split Shot + Hollow Point absolutely fucks if you're an aimlet like me.You can 100-0 everyone in a flash but you can also be bursted down immediately, it's fun.
>>542207749>>542207506paige is a bookworm obsessed with arthurian fantasy (a knights assistant is a page)
>>542231398Yeah, I'm not including myself, cause I'm not the one doing stupid shit, going 1-10 every game cause these apes are treating this like it's CoD or something.
>>542207506>is a sniperSniper>is an alchemistAlchemist>is a witch doctorWitch Doctor
>>542210926>>542212742>Why do you think the writing is bad?Valve stopped caring for the time period they set the game in. Also Billy and Paige are beyond cringe.>I don't see why this is badBecause we have few too many generic games with undetermined time periods/style choices. Once Valve started dilluting the setting they've set the game in instead of doubling down on it it started losing its amtosphere and appeal.Compare Geist to Mina and see for yourself
>>542207956Drow Vindicta was cute but then they remodeled her to actually look like a dark elf for some reason
>>542207506Downsides?
>>542231930Are you on molly? Old Vind had a horse face and was beyond ugly. What you said isn't even revisionism, this is a delusion.
>>542231754plap lyney
>two prio heroes>dont get either of them>forced to watch the biggest pussy shiv ever never ult the enemies i get low
>jeets complaining about their teammates not realizing they suck ass too>cry and blame matchmaking>valve gives everyone ascendant and phantom medals>all the jeets are still grouped together but they all think they're pro now and the struggle in their games is only because of their newfound rank>they're all pacified>literally nothing changed but an iconValve are genuinely brilliant for this.
>>542232617>jeets brown brownoid jeet brownwhy is every thread like this now?and why can you never bring this up without being accused of being a heckin jeet as well? it feels so forced
>>542232089No shit her model was unfinished and low quality, but the plumper face fit her better. Now she just looks like an emaciated elf.
This game needs little girl characters(Mina is too old)
>>542232727ok replace jeets with retards and then you'll be happy
I just picked the game up right before the rank distribution change and now that matchmaking exists, new player = put in the eternally hardstuck shitter bracket, tips for improving in the face of ggs and rageafk 3 minutes in?
>>542232727A significant demographic of this website (asocial failed white men) have nothing to take pride in about their life except the fact they were born in a white country, hence they project their imaginary adversaries as being of an "inferior" race.
>>542232727I'll take jeet spam over the tranny spam I wish we could go back to nigger or faggot spam but you can't stop the flow of time.
>>542232867>I just picked the game up right before the rank distribution change...twelve hours ago?
>>542232895trvthnvke
>>542232895Kek whities btfo!
>>542232986like 3 days ago but its close enough
>>542232895this, wiggers are no better than nogs.
>>542233047Well, since you start in REAL Initiate, not the one that lumped in every decayed player with higher skill levels, just spam Abrams, they won't know how to parry you.
Is there any interest in hosting a European inhouse since it's a weekend?
>someone takes offense to being called brown>everyone starts circlejerking about how much whites suckheh
>>542232902I just wish people were a little more effortful with their insults. Or better yet they weren't so highstrung and pissy by default
>>542233263But I am white too? I'm just tired of low effort incel edgelords. They need to be more refined, like my nigga Seven.
>>542233350>But I am white too>my nigga SevenYou cannot use that word
>>542233142isn't matchmaking badges on a by character basis? I'd like to build up to decent matches on my vindictur...
>>542233381>isn't matchmaking badges on a by character basis?No, but the game keeps track on if your skill level of a specific hero is above or below average for your badge. It doesn't show a badge, but hero specific MMR exists.
>>542212692it's pocket
>>542212692Pocket, Shiv, Billy, Mina, etc.?
>from arcanist to archon 6What the fuckOCE Is a shitshow anyway, but what the fuck
picture says 1,000 words
My beloved Mina
>>542204872>Alchemist to Oracle
Valve should add a vampire hero to this game that's fvll evropean instead of some gold digging gook hapa retard.
>>542233879This ritualpost is boring, can we get some better material?
>>542233350>But I am white tooI never said otherwise you stupid fuck
>>542233263wiggers are not white of mind throughverbeitum
>>542233631Mina? A tankbuster? She does nothing to tanks.
>>542234123Her ultimate does HP based damage and she can follow up with a HP based execute, retard-kun
>>542232895You are currently typing on a European language, probably living in a European country (as in racially European), using European technology which was developed on the back of European science and math (and Jewish too to be fair).
Wait there has been a rank change? Is that why I've suddenly been thrown into archon matches for some fucking reason? I used to get alchemist and sometimes arcanist games
>>542234305They're based on fluctuating percentiles now instead of fixed values
>>542234305THEY PUT ME IN EMISSARY WHAT THE FUCK NO WONDER GAMES HAVE BEEN SO ANTI FUN
I have vyper as my third playable hero so I know it's a dedicated loss game from valve and I shouldnt bother.
>>542234503https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy
>>542234205I suppose that's true. But isolating someone with the ult is not easy. Outside of that she does nothing to ranks. Yes I know her rake deals percentage based damage at max level, but after that little burst to their 5k HP pool, she does nothing
>>542234596>ranksTanks*
>>542227229it doesn't take a fucking genius to tell, NA players are retarded loudmouths who keep talking about "femboys"honestly I'd rather have russians than burgerclaps
>>542234554If the game gives me a low prio hero I know the algo want to fuck me with absolute gorilla retards.
>>542234850RUgods are literally better than most of you faggy euros.
>>542234850>ctrl+f Femboy>1 resultHmm
>>542234305RTFOP
>>542235231For some reason Putin-slaves always have to bring up gay stuff in every thread
>>542233964There is not a single good ritual post for this general
I've heard gay shit like "oh that was such a good save, imma suck your dick right now" in about every language in this gameASSFAGGOTS really turns you into one
>>542235460there is no such thing as a good ritual post it's a fucking spam tier forced meme
>>542235165WHATEVER YOU SAY DRAFTDODGER GO GET GRINDED ALREADY LMFAO
>>542235564>tell dude who is bitching in mic about being constantly denied to just get high velocity rounds>"thank you so much bro I'd suck you off"why are unitedstatesians like this?
>>542235578There is no draft unless you're ukrainian retard.
>new rank means you will most likely get faced with tougher opponents>but also better team mates>you will lose rank>mfw every game since rank update has been a win
