Rank Lock Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-02-2025-update.84332/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>542141805
Paige's hairy logcutter.
Yeah, I guess I'm a bit of an Eternus-tier player now. You're all shitters and beneath me.
>archon 1>rank update>ascendant 1>games are exactly the samewow!at least there aren't a million initiate 1 players now
i only play vindicta and can't play anyone else so when i don't get her i get put on mina and i think i do okay
>>542204896uh huh that's why nightshift only picks infernus and not haze
I have never played this game and will not play it until it actually releasesI'm an only here to shitpost and be bored
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
>>542205227haze is played as support there
>>542204896>haze is active way earlierhave you ever played infernus yourself? he becomes a rapist by minute 10. his powerspike is huge and if he's fighting a Haze she has to play on the defensive 100% of the time because she doesn't have spirit damage, a peel ability nor a damage amp with lifesteal.
Will we EVER get to Skellingtown?
>>542205403because she isn't as strong as infernusdumbass
>>542205443if we never get a skeleton hero because of china i'm actually i'm i'm gonna cry i can't really do anything about it besides that
Femdom
>spend over an hour researching and designing build for hero>don't get them in matchmakingGonna kill myself
>>542204065This makes nowhere near any sense since soldier is fun to play + infinite skill ceiling + nowhere near the strongest that's pic related
>>542205467this is your average dlg retard btw>different roles >hur dur that means haze WEAK because she not that other role???
>make smurf>majority of games have a leaver on my team>cant rank up lol
>Get send to arcanist 6>The match is exactly same>Bunch of retards vs bunch of retards, whoever have the worse retards lose the gameThanks for "fixing" matchmaking
will /dlg/ ever get over their haze derangement
>>542205668>i read none of the post im replying to: the postlol
>>542206167no pub is playing support hazethey only play support haze to get vision and use dagger in nightshift, she's dogshit otherwise
> New RanksOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHCan I make youtube videos for deadlock now with titles like "Archon Pro Plays #992"
>>542206228Did they say it was anything involving matchmaking and not just how ranks were distributed?
>>542205668>nowhere near the strongest>soldier player down playing soldierSoldier has no counter, has greatdamage, good mobility, doesn't need to aim much, still has good range compared to 70% of the cast, and the second most health. But worst of all he unlocks that basically solve any issue he might have.>yeh but muh 1v1 on a place with a bunch of props scout wins!!!Soldier is the "I want to win with the least amount of effort" class. Classes like Pyro, heavy and engi are easy too but that's only at the skill floor. If you want to be really effective as pyro or scout the game demands a lot more. Characters like Haze and Infernus are basically the soldier of deadlock. Good AND easy.
>>542206478it was only rank distribution
>>542206232Haze has an annoying voice and plays the Cello (stupid instrument) and therefore they should be removed from the game
>>542206232The community has never gotten over the 2024 gun meta. Perhaps Haze will always terrorize the lower ranks, no matter how many times she is raped.
>>542206469the tube market is flooded with Eternus this and Eternus that there's no room for Archons
>>542206469Already seeing people who were oracle/phantom putting "eternus" in their video/stream titles
>>542206574>Soldier has no counterI fucking love /vg/
>>542206652gun is still the easiest to carry with in pubs, just hold m1 on someone and win
>Play Dynamo>Use my blackhole>Somehow Mo & Krill grabs me through it and cancels it outWhat?!?!
>>542206815I've done it before if you jump dynamo from above
>Struggling to get out of Initiate for a long ass while now>Everytime I get close I always get quitters or unbelievable feeders>Log in today>Arcanist 3Huh? What happened?
>>542206764pyro loses the match up unless the pyro is 3x as good as the soldier. And even then the soldier can just equip the direct hit or use his shotgun. The former is also true for scout. Soldier can lose of course and there are situations disadvantagous but he's such an easy mode character that anyone fighting him is always punching up
>went from arcanist 6 to oracle 2at least i dont have to do this shit anymore
got put with quitters who stand afk and let me get ganked 20ft away
>>542206914I LITERALLY put it in the OP as to make it easy for you third worlders to come to terms with the news
Who's the most popular deadlock content creator out there?And who's like semi-popular?I want to make contents for deadlock, but I need to know there's money in it.
>>542207004fym retardoracle 2 is the new arcanist 6if you weren't happy at arcanist before, nothing should have changed for you
>>542207090Sorry am tarded I didn't read the OP.
>>542207004>>542207117I was in Emissary and now I'm Oracle 6 so it's not a complete 1 to 1 I guess if it means I'm gonna queue in the new arcanist
>>542206914>influx of new players with character and map update>rank system breaks, basically everyone below the 50th percentile is thrown into Initiate I, low-med MMR is broken and match quality is extremely low>Valve makes a fix>a lot of people jump ranks as a result>high MMR players are seething since they capitalized on having too few players to properly matchmaking, throwing them in lower ranked lobbies giving them an easy curb stomp>everyone's happy except top players
>>542206232>duhhh i walked up to the wave and ursa auto'd me to death that's so op!!!never.
>>542207109its the year 2025 and somehow people still dont realise that streaming and youtube videos are only making real money for the top 10%
How does anyone take the names in this game seriously?>reads booksPaige>is a tankAbrams>freezy cold manKelvin>whips niggersLash
>>542207506Its what you call good design
>haze who can suck up farm, sleep dagger and turn invis when pressured, can lazer beam people with a billion damage and win 99% of 1v1s even at the same soul count all while being pretty simple to play is actually bad because uhhhhh because sometimes I lose with her Genuinely explain why haze isn't good and name 3 characters who are objectively more easy mode than her (not including infernus and wraith who are basically the same as her anyway and have the same problem)
>>542207117oh i didnt realize it was just rank distribution and not actual mmr, no wonder the match i played earlier felt just as fucked up as usual
>>542207506paige is quite a stupid one I agree, but what's wrong with the rest? Lash maybe also a bit goofy, but we don't know for sure yet if it's his real family name or just his fighter nickname
>>542207506would it be better if the book character was called johanne or something retarded like that which didn't have anything to do with what the character doesthe one name i can't take seriously is calico, because she's a fucking sphynx cat and is called calico, it's so stupid
I like how people in low MMR are used to being matchmaking guinea pigs being forced to 1v1 a top player on 'rank decay' or smurf account, but the moment Valve touches Oracle to Eternus people go nuclear.>wah wah my rank>you're only supposed to worsen match quality for new players!!!I saw someone argue they should've left Oracle to Eternus alone this update. The conceit and self importance is out of this world.
>called drifter>doesn't drift, he sucks???
>>542207109You have to actually be talented, be already extremely wealthy, be lucky, and/or grind a lot if you wanna make money off of content creationI'm an actual content creator. I like to think I'm talented but more importantly I've been lucky enough to be blessed with a small following, but without a lot more luck, I'm not making real money off of this until I've been grinding for a couple more years.
>>542207506>is from not-hell and has fire and stuffInfernus>killed 7 dudes onceSeven>has ivies growing around her armsIvy>is a doormanDoormanWho the fuck writes this shit
>>542207803hope you stub your toe later
So did all the already high ranked players get shoved into Eternus 6? Lmao it must be hell there right now.
>>542207506It's standard MOBA writing, really do not expect anything deep, although it will offer you something resembling a story at times. The goal is probably something stupid like 100 characters.
>Is viscous>
>>542207506Valve is just too clever.
>>542207475>>542207803No, I don't plan to be a famous person and make millions per month.And I'm not expecting to quit my job and make this a full time job.I just want to make a few hundreds pocket money as a side gig.
>>542207475To be fair, that's basically anything.
>>542207642Haze has low starting hp and low starting clip.People pick her up after getting stomped but they don't know about certain things like her clip scaling with spirit and get stomped in lane instead.She also lacks the generic nuke/spirit damage skills that most people fall onto when they can't aim.
>>542207642>sleep dagger when pressuredWorks on one person, is a skillshot.>can invis awayStill visible within a certain range, and it won't save her from being chased by multiple people because it has no inherent anti-slow (unlike Infernus flame dash with an inherent 50% resistance) and she needs to build sprint speed.>lazer(sic) beam people with a billion damageHer M1 being her main source of damage also means she lacks versatility in her damage. This means disarming hex and firerate slows are especially damaging to her. Her ultimate drops off in damage very sharply if more than one person is in it, she has to pay a 6.4k Ricochet tax to get it to do work on multiple. Nothing is stopping them from using an ability to stop her ultimate as she has no inherent silence or protection. She is also the squishiest of the M1s.
>>542207891I'll do it just for you
>>542207890>has ivies growing around her armsactually it's a bit more clever than that because she has the number 4 in romans (IV) carved on her body as well
>>542208076do a "stepped on a lego" tiktok
>>542200418>>542200292>>542200282Alright gonna give him another try. In general I just want items to keep them inside my ult and generic counters purple/gun boosters?
>>542207920i think they're trying to go for TF2 style lore this time instead of typical dota padding and with the visual novels in the works i cant imagine the game not having a somewhat deep story
How do I even close out a game like this without feeding my ass off trying to take walkers by myself after getting a lead
>>542208034>they don't know about certain things like her clip scaling with spirit and get stomped in lane instead.I don't care about spirit in lane, and I stomp the enemies instead.There's no point to get more bullets in lane since people are mostly hiding behind walls & pillars.And the spirit certainly doesn't help with the lane. What are you gonna do? Knife the enemy to death?
>>542207779>>542207915people in high rank are super gate keep-y and up themselves about rank. Was watching an eternus match a few days ago and a shiv wasn't doing so good and his teammate was having the worst tantrum about it>wow they just give e6 to anyone these daysThen he just started to AFK in base and tell the enemy team where his own teammates were. Like, the high ranks of Deadlock are so mentally ill for some reason that sportsmanship is unironically better in the middle ranks. I bet the people in Eternus before the change are having a meltie right now >IT'S NOT FAIR THEY DIDNT EARN IT LIKE I DID (stacking with my homos)>THIS IS GONNA RUIN MY LOBBIES (even though most of my Eternus matches were against archon to ascendant players anyways)
>>542207642>name 3 characters who are objectively more easy mode than herMo and KrillGray Talon (either gun or spirit build work)Ivy>>542200210Anon for the love of God DO NOT BUILD WARDEN GUN. Warden has one of the best ultimates in the game, that character wins any teamfight he gets to use it in.
>>542208021It's gonna be a real shit side gig that gets you 100 dollars every 3-4 months if you're lucky and only if you're willing to commit to uploading consistently, but it's doableIdk what the numbers for streaming is like but that's been my experience with YouTube
>>542207749honestly it was just a joke I thought the image of Lash whipping niggers was enough of a giveaway
Played against a sincalir that knew how to play and I had to keep tabs on that guy the whole match
>>542208195Ima be real with you, people are coping when they say it will be more like TF2. There's already too many characters to keep track of, it's already entered LoL Arcane territory of "pick your favorites to force a main cast".This is more DOTA adjacent, down to how lazy the character writing is and how on the nose the archetypes were (they *just* changed Frank's name to Victor because it was so bad taste)Their writing is kind of abysmal dogshit because they don't care for it (that) much to begin with, it's not mandatory to the game's success and could actually impede the content conveyor belt.
>>542208165IM A NICE GUY!!!!!!
>>542208195even for just basic in-game stuff, i think this game has the best explanation/setting for the battle of any ASSFAGGOT/hero shooter the whole wish thing is pretty cool and it explains why heroes that would hate each other are willing to cooperate anyways instead of having that OW problem where it makes 0 sense or the TF2 thing where there's a bunch of unexplained "clones" when you play pubs (i know it's a retarded thing to complain about but i'm just nitpicking it to show how effective deadlock's is)
>>542207642Tracking is still harder and less consistent than every spirit carry.
>>542207506Paige is a double entendre
>play muscle wizard sinclair>get talked shit>turn 3 people into rabbits, steal infernus ult and get 3 heavies >just turning people into small animals and beating them>3 of them buy rebuttal as I start to 2 shot punch with max dmg ampnew favorite build unlocked. also instant transmissioning with assistant is priceless.
>>542208394easy way to keep track of everyone narrative wise is the neon prime gang warfare idea. you already have the baxter society, infernus bar goers, wraith card game, vampire society, street vigilantes, boxers etc
>>542208050wrong! dagger haze is now amazing because of the inability to miss point blank, .5s invuln from invis bomb, spell parry and going mercurial magnum/tesla diversifies the damage.
>the narrative elements aren't up to snuff in a multiplayer focused game that isn't out yetHoly shit it's so over
i give it 2 weeks before everyone with high rank will go back to alchemist.
>>542208165permaroot warden is funnierespecially with paige
I legitimately cannot play Shiv, I feel like I'm trying to punch someone in a dream every time I try fighting anyone with him, it's like everything I do just phases through them.
>>542207506>Ivy>connects to you and gives you healthTook me a while >>542208307>>542208749Alright dont worry Im getting monster rounds tho>>542208406IM A MELTING POT OF FRIENDSHIP, IM A NICE GUUUUUUYY!!!! SOME OF MY FRIENDS ARE IXIANS, SOME GARGOYLE AND EVEN WIGHTS!
>>542207642>Genuinely explain why haze isn't goodI can't aim for shit and everyone else in my eternus bracket is gods at aim, so I lose every 1v1 if I play her.
>>542208305Oh, they 100% are having a meltdown. Have a peek in #deadlock-comeptitive on the official server.And it's like, if you want to be high MMR it's easy. Exploit the obvious patch meta (last patch it was Seven + Lightning Scroll for example), go in as a stack, and run an alt account. The best part is a lot of them stumbled into high MMR a long time ago and because the game has no rank reset, they're basically glued in that rank.Their ego is insane, honestly fuck them. The devs are probably scared of properly fixing the matchmaking and resetting everything because they'd hurt the feelings of their ecelebs who made it their whole personality.
>>542208574Neon Prime unironically was the better PvP story. Didn't pretend to tell a story it doesn't have the balls to actually write.After Overwatch, I have zero patience for this blue balling "something will happen" style of writing.
>got the most shitty games post character drop and earlier ranked adjustment, so I eventually got down to Seeker>They put me in Anarchist 6 today>win one, get Ritualist 3Almost back to Emissary, bros
Why doesn't citadel_region_override 1 put me in US servers anymore? I'm tired of playing with stoned eastern european rats
>>542207920>>542208195>>542208394>>542208416Personally I think the writing is pretty good compared to other hero shooters/MOBAsThere's a reason why the character interactions are really popular meanwhile you can't even find half of the overwatch character interactions online but they're put-you-to-sleep boring. I like that the "heroes" aren't too over the top mary sue-ish type important choosen ones (although some of the recent additions are leaning that way) because what's important is the setting as a frame for all kinda of different people to be in one place. And if they're all too amazing, pure of heart, and special but there's also 75 of them it just gets stupid and it's hard to view them as people, and it also detracts from character's who are notable because of their celebrity. A Mole and his buddy being there because they owed money to a mobster really colours the world in but its also down to Earth in its own wayToo many of this genre make each character the "last of their kind", "a one and only entity", "a hero with an ability only they posess". Take McGinnis for example, she's a genuis who builds their own stuff and that stands out in Deadlock but in Overwatch there are like 8+ genuis scientist heroes. And EVERY character is an epic legend leader (like McCree or even Junk Rat), in Deadlock Holliday is just a sheriff with a famous grandfather, and other character shit on the irrelevancy of her celebrity Sometimes less is more
>>542206574>Taking casual pubshit into consideration6s is the premier way to play tf2, and soldier's easily the weakest generalist in it.
I know a guy rn whose actively isolating himself from the group because his newly emissary ass is convinced he's too good to play with everyone else (statlocker says so)
>>542208305>>542208974We're gonna see an uptick of "Eternus" vids too. High rank is gonna be incredibly fucked until everything stabilizes.
>>542208974>the game has no rank resetThere's MMR decay.I didn't play for five weeks and went from eternus to phantom. It took me two months of irregular play to climb back.
>>542208974how do I even look at the official server without a pisscord account?I hope we do get a rank reset.
https://youtu.be/I9hCYoY1uTs?si=T7fBzGzEmJphN4xB&t=4560>doesn't waste a single opportunity to virtue signal about minorities or trannies like in 32:06, 33:16, 45:51, 56:13 or 1:11:16>can't stop gushing for even 2 picoseconds about how cool he thinks psychopaths and serial killers are like in 1:12:41 or 1:16:00the world desperately needs less disgusting filth like him
>>542209585how am I expected to use this youtube thing if I don't have a dookle account-tier
>>542209447>There's a reason why the character interactions are really popular meanwhile you can't even find half of the overwatch character interactions online but they're put-you-to-sleep boring.It really is the same thing between Deadlock and Overwatch. Similar writing style, even. I don't see the difference.>Too many of this genre make each character the "last of their kind", "a one and only entity", "a hero with an ability only they posess". I do agree, this is something I like about Deadlock, but it doesn't magically put it into "good writing" territory. It's basically all just PvP banter and like, 1-3 paragraphs of backstory that doesn't say all that much. There's nothing to work with outside of character design, it's gacha tier.
>>542209662>go 25-4 as shiv>rank up from alchemist 3 to ritualist 3they are fixing the mmr system for sure
>>542209467>emissaryThat's literally the rank I was before I was ranked up into Phantom. And even then I consider Phantom quite low. Did your friend just start playing 2 weeks ago? Current emissary is sewer rank right now, tell him that. He may a well just have fun is super duper poopoo rank with you and your group then solo sewer 5 hoping to get into Toilet 1
>>542208906official backstory is that she's called Ivy because she was covered in ivy when the Arroyos found her, and their youngest named her that.
>>542209547Rank decay is cancer because I unironically was getting Phantom players in Ritualist. Even as a playtest we need something resembling seasons as they're constantly changing the algorithm.
>two games with cheaters in a rowthey need harsher punishment for these subhumansVAC bans are not enough
>>542209467emissary is literal shitlow
>>542208305>open that channel>some foid genuinely complaining about not having e6 teammateswhat’s funny is that ALL of these “competitive” retards will be forgotten and demoted when this game releases with real rewards and playerbase
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>>542209420reply
>>542209952wtf I didn't know the doorman was based?
>>542209491So now the top 1% percentile rank may become the top 3% percentile? Why is this a problem?
>stomp enemy team one game>team is playing perfectly>next game>I get the team full of tards>the type that run after a spirit Infernus in flame dash>he even types "?" as he got three kills that wayepic
>>542210197Flaring egos.
>>542207272where are you retards getting these ideas from? they didnt do any mm changes. yoshi said they changed the rank badges to better represent your mmr by making them percentile based instead of fixed value based.
the only reason you complain about haze is because you stand out in the open, get to max stacks, don't wait for them to expire, and then have a shitfit when you die because your positioning is ASS
@542209619Buy an ad, tranny.
>>542210345How do you know badges aren't considered in matchmaking? I don't know about you but matches have been playing quite differently already.
here comes the lash
>>542210481Actually I complain about Haze because she's black
>>542210702What if she's actually white underneath the smoke?
>only time the game is fun is when someone on the other team is feeding so hard you can power yourself up enough to solo the enemy team>half the time the enemies do the same to you>close games are just boring as fucki'm thinking this game isn't for me
>>542210657
>>542210657Because your hidden MMR value is a far better and easier way to determine your skill level.
>>542209619Went to the first time stamp. I mean, Friends of Humanity in lore are dictionary bigots. That is the right word to use.I think you may be retarded, correct me if I'm wrong. Not even going to bother to see the other timestamps.
>>542209743>I don't see the difference.Surely you're being facetious>but it doesn't magically put it into "good writing" territoryWhy do you think the writing is bad? I think the setting is pretty great. It's a cool world with many fun ideas. OSIC, Ixia, prophet arms race. As for the zipline dialogue, it's fine, good only in comparison to its contemporaries. But pregame dialogue can only be so much anyways. Actually, a lot of it is quite amusing and really bring the characters to life: stuff like Geist recognising Pocket's jacket make but not Arin or Grey Talon's revenge speech. They're punchy and get a good bit across in the tiny window they have. Some lines stink, especially a lot of Paige's and Billy's ones, and some are flawed but they're pretty good overall especially if you compare it to overwatch. Saying they're indistinguishable is either a complete fib or complete ignorance>it's gacha tierNow you're just being a hater for the sake of it. I don't play gacha but surely that's dogshit tierI mean, take the Geist VN, even as an incomplete WIP leak, there's little bad to say about it as an accoutrement to the character
>>542209420please respond
why the fuck do games even have hidden mmr
>>542211019so "unranked" games aren't decided as soon as the match startsdeadlock doesn't have proper casual or ranked modes right now though
>>542209952Yeah I just had a Haze cheater in a game. Looked at Statlocker and noticed another game in my history with Haze in Ascendant rank. Both times they were on my team at least but it really makes the game pointless if it happens.
>>542211019The number exists for a variety of technical reasons but they don't show it because casuals are intimidated by number going up or down
>>542210856sure, but that's not the point, the guy goes out of his way every 5 seconds to talk about how much he loves minorities, or community or whatever, then raves on and on about how cool he thinks serial killers and psychopaths are. You know, people who hurt, use, abuse or kill innocents. I was just hoping to see anyone else who thought he's an idiot. But I guess all I'll get is even bigger losers like: >>542210643
no one caresgo and blog somewhere else
>>542209447>I like that the "heroes" aren't too over the top mary sue-ish type important choosen ones (although some of the recent additions are leaning that way)one thing in particular that i like is for example when they released billy i was kind of annoyed at an r/anarchism fag type character existing but they make it apparent that a lot of the cast also hate him for his soapbox habits and find him annoying. usually these types of characters are written clearly with the attention of being self absorbed and mighty but it just makes the player hate the character more when theres nothing in the game acknowledging their ignorance and pompousness
>>542210926>Why do you think the writing is bad?It takes place in the past but is not period accurate, even with a vague date of 1940-1980. Half the characters don't have a motive. Those that do will remain thoroughly unexplored because it's a PvP game. What these people actually do in specific is left undefined, how the Patron achieves their wishes is left undefined, what the Patrons want is undefined, character relations are hovering on simultaneously canon and noncanon. So I have to ask why the fuck get invested in this?>I don't play gacha but surely that's dogshit tierIt's actually better because there tends to be a main story and canon main cast. Deadlock is literally all banter.The Geist VN is kind of shit but the effort was appreciated. Read literally any other visual novel.
>>542211120Nevermind it's the same game, he just has a different name on Statlocker. I just don't understand the point of cheating. It's not like you're doing it to gain YouTube/Twitch subs/ money nor win a tournament, again for money. He wasn't even wiping the floor with the lobby, it's just embarrassing
>>542211326>then raves on and on about how cool he thinks serial killers and psychopaths areIsn't that a good portion of the TF2 player base? It's fiction, no one needs you to police what is or isn't cool. People like antiheroes and villains in media, more news at 11.
>>542211019Because there's literally zero reason for them to show you MMR.
>>542210657because the badges are only visual representations of a number expressing your skill level (mmr). why would they use the visual instead of the actual number? are you really this fucking retarded
>>542211383this is the place to do that btwi care
>Shoot foot lady in the feet and kill her>Apologize in the chat
>>542211616sure, but fictional or not, they are still representations of something, and because of it, I'm not talking about the pixels on screen, I'm talking about the people raving about them. Sometimes I just get tired of people and modern society, and seek validation to feel some sort of hope about humanity, sorry dude. You can go back to watch squid games death compilations or whatever.
>>542211383Plenty of places like r*ddit and the cord for you to shut out meanie chuds making fun of your video. Maybe go there instead?
>>542209952
>8 game losing streakI'm facing nothing but tanky teams with kelvin and mo and it's so difficult to score any kills.
>>542211019realistically, it's multiple number weights. There isn't a 'score' other than your badge bracket, which isn't a factor other than being generally grouped.
>>542211019Hidden MMR is very "sticky" and is supposed to not swing whenever someone has a lucky win streak or an unlucky loss streak. The shown rank is more easily influenced by wins and losses.
>>542212109I went up against a team that had Viscous, Paige, and Ivy. 2 of them bought Rescue Beams. I wanted to stab my eyes out during every teamfight.
>>542211980>seek validation to feel some sort of hope about humanity>i do this by watching shitty ragebait tierlists and then crying on 4chanwaow
>>542208305The top 1% of any game is always full of manchildren that nolife the game constantly because they have literally nothing else going on, it's not surprising they're mostly a bunch of spergsMidrank is dads who play deadlock during their limited gaming hours, people with other hobbies, and so on
>>542206815>>542207642>>542208034>>542209965The black wοman οf Valve unοriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>542212109this game lowkey needs a tankbuster hero that has an ability based on max hp % damageIt can even just be an ult
>>542211448>It takes place in the past but is not period accurate, even with a vague date of 1940-1980I don't see why this is bad. Alternate history settings are, by nature not gonna be period accurate which are fine and I'm pretty sure there is a canon date (it's like 1940 something, it's on a box somewhere), as for Billy looking like that? Not really a writing issue. >Half the characters don't have a motive.I'm sure that's gonna be fleshed out more as stuff gets revealed+added but when the setting is "A wish Granting God shows up" it doesn't require a great imagination to think of why criminals, the desperate, and government soldiers would be there. And in my opinion, it's more fun when it's more vague as the reality is, that's how it is for "wishes". Similar to Geist's VN where the wish can be different depending on small factors. Intrigue is an important part of writing. >how the Patron achieves their wishes is left undefinedThat's not bad writing. It's a juvenile mistake to think magic and science needs a full detailed explanation in a story to be acceptable. This isn't a logics doctrine; the function of the patrons is not mechanical, only really conceptual at least in the "story" of the game. >gacha playerConsidering you respond to me mentioning Geist's VN (which isn't even a VN, just a youtube video of some VN scenes) with "read literally any other visual novel" makes me think you might just be a moron. Maybe read real books instead of looking at chinese gamble apps. Half your "points" have just been autistic nitpicks at things that aren't even bad writing, just frustrations you're personally have. Why don't you name a gacha with good writing then so we can all have a good laugh about it. It's very clear you're not gonna be convinced because you think it's bad writing because... you don't like it. Whereas I'm not gonna be convinced becuase I think it's NOT bad because I'm being comparative.
>>542212368that's alright, anon. I'm not angry, plus you got all the media in the world to consume until nothing matters and nothing means anything anymore, congrats
Just a simple reminder to all of our reddit/discord friends!1. You will always be a mentally ill man.2. If they were real people, every single deadlock character would either be confused by your mental illness (viscous, ivy), act polite but want nothing to do with you (abrams, infernus), or outright mock your ghoulish appearance (seven, billy).3. Once you finally gain some self-recognition about your dreaded state, you will immediately consider suck-starting a shotgun.4. The only thing you'll leave behind will be a skeleton (unmistakably male), and a steam account (unmistakably boosted).
>>542212757>willingly watch almost 2 hours of literal dogshit>instant anyone says anything negative about you start sperging out about them just being mindless consoomersok
>>542212556>decent at video games>not a dad but still employed>trapped in ascendant with the people convinced they would be the best rank in the world if it wasn't for their team
mina ha findom sounds hot tbdesu
>>542213009I will ai generate art of her being fixed instead
>>542213053Indian hours already, huh?
>>542209952This is funny because aimbotter is always either doorman or holliday
https://statlocker.gg/profile/1287992646/matches>mentally ill furry is smurfing so hard he wins a 4v6 gamethis game is fucking dead how is this allowed
>>542213009Maybe if she was an older woman and her hair was white and she wore a more sleek dress and one of her arms was green
>>542213234true true true and true
>>542209796he's /newly/ emissary, previously alchemist, 600 hours
>>542213098Doorman doesn't need to aimbot because of his fuckhuge projectileHolliday only vaguely benefits from aimbot because crackshot has a cooldown, cheaters don't have the patience for maxing out an ability to be effectiveAimbotters are Haze or Infernus 90% of the time because their passives become disgusting when you're at max firerate and always hitting the head.
>>542213174>this game is fucking dead
>>542212965I don't wanna side with the troons anon, but holy fuck.If you projected any harder I could stick a lens up your ass and use you to watch pirated moves on my walls.
>>542213386>alchemist, 600 hours
>>542213174>this game is fucking deadlock
>>542213518
>>542213518I'm a similar rank after a similar number of hours, I just never played a moba before Deadlock
>>542213386i'm former archon turned ascendant with 700 hours and i'm ass, that dude is giga ass
>>542213553>"If I don't lock in now, I'm dead!">John Deadlock
what if mina instead of sucking blood sucked piss
>>542206652I want to rape Haze
>>542211798>why would they use the visual instead of the actual numberBecause badges represent clean divisions of skill level, and many multiplayer matchmaking systems further accommodate divisions between ranks in various ways (eg rank decay, promotion). Truth is neither of us know the full internals of Deadlock's matchmaking, it's all just a vibe check on our side.>>542212742> Alternate history settings are, by nature not gonna be period accurate It's pushing past suspension of disbelief. Magic hit New York and in the span of a few years they can build talking robots, small turrets, and modern weaponry? There is a reason Fallout went for an "alternate future" as opposed to an "alternate past". Gave them more freedom and let the art steer the worldbuilding a bit more.>I'm sure that's gonna be fleshed out moreI'd give them the benefit of the doubt, but go read DOTA 2's lore and come back. A large portion of the core Deadlock team comes from that game. They care more about pumping out characters than telling a story. It's not that kind of game.> It's a juvenile mistake to think magic and science needs a full detailed explanation in a story to be acceptableIt's not about magic needing to be explained. The Patron is a key plot point, how the Patron carries out the "Heroes'" wishes is very important. Would Ivy be happy if the Patron had to kill a bunch of innocent people to keep Harlem safe? No. This is not an extraneous sideplot.>Considering you respond to me mentioning Geist's VN (which isn't even a VN, just a youtube video of some VN scenes)I mean it literally by definition is a visual novel. Even looking at it on it's own merits, ignoring the bar set in the genre, it doesn't do anything for the characters the 3 paragraph bios didn't already do.Deadlock has decent banter, great voice delivery, but a story as shallow as the games people compare it to.
>>542212968I just wanted to play some games and keep some video playing on the background, and even then, I stopped listening to that guy right as he started jerking it to the mere concept of drifter as a character. I don't plan to watch him in the future either. I don't plan on wasting more of my time here, you can go ahead and call me names or whatever, here's your carpet roll:
its funny, I saw a lot of familiar names today but the match quality vastly improved because people were taking the game more seriously due to their ranks, comming more, and not raging at each otherthe simple shift in mentality increased how good the games were even though it was basically only cosmetic
>542213510Blud really bringing up buttsex while accusing other people of projecting
>>542213985For me players became 20x more shitheads because they realized they were in the top 5% instead of being average.
I FUCKING HATE MOVEMENT TRANNIESI hate what Apex and Valorant have fucking done to zoomer brains and how thats impacting this game. Mobility riddled cancer
Ok its clear that most people agree Gray Talon is bustedIs it a numbers thing? Or is it his kit? It feels like his kit needs a rework, though I suppose his intention is to be a lane oppressor
>>542214213Apex and Valorant are low in mobility outside of interactables and abilities though.Also movement is much more interesting a mechanic than Aimlabs and aimbotting. Just because something is high skill ceiling doesn't mean it's a net positive for the game or should be valued above any adjacent mechanic.
>>542214313disagree, he's in a pretty good place right now
>>542214213Me when I play the hybrid Movement Shooter / MOBA and find that there are Movment Shooter elements
>>542213174epic champ pool
>>542214313A bit of both + spirit items being bonkers broken for a long time.His standard build gives him both strong arrows and an uber retarded broken ult. They really need to change how his bird or arrows scale.
>>542214406>Movement shooterVerbal diarrhea, fucking zoomies
That's cool and everything but where's the priest
>was ritualist>now oracle I dont belong here gang and i feel bad
>>542210926>Why do you think the writing is bad?NTA but honestly while the game's writing while for the most part perfectly enjoyable (Viscous still makes me cringe, and some of Billy's lines don't really stick the landing for me), i hesitate to call it anything special in the context of games as a whole. Definitely above average for PvP stuff, much like Dota is, but ultimately it still suffers from being shackled to an esports format where noone is allowed to be truly uncomfortable or even cuss (this greatly limits the impact of the banter) and everyone must move within a sponsor-dictated exclusion zone. That on top of the fact that everyone will, due to the limitations of the format, be reduced to being a toy with a chatterbox that must be able to be understood without context and never have stories of their own of any real consequence. It's fine because ultimately i'm not looking for a PvP game to wow me with text, and the performances do a lot to sell the characters, but if we're talking in those terms then i feel like pretty much everything that isn't the characters or the lookout fails to convey much of anything about the world thus far. It's fine for the time being since from what i understand a lot of shit about the map and the items is fairly work in progress, but i'd appreciate the bare minimum of personality here and there. At least a couple shoddily painted chinese restaurant billboards, rats skittering about in the sewers, idk. Make the lucky shot gun upgrade a horseshoe possessed by a dead sheriff that made a deal with the devil to never miss a shot or some shit. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
>>542213770>Magic hit New York and in the span of a few years they can build talking robots, small turrets, and modern weaponryIn Deadlock magic has always existed. The malestrom (of which has occurred before) in 1899 just caused it to bleed out everywhere that it became so unlike our world in so many ways. >The Patron is a key plot point, how the Patron carries out the "Heroes'" wishes is very importantIn Roadside Picnic do you think the HOW the wish-making functions is instrumental to the story? No. If you need a class on how such a concept can be done read that book because you wouldn't be saying this stuff otherwise. Many stories have done wishmaking plots and almost none of them give an explantion to how it works and you're being beyond autistic to assert that Deadlock's writing is bad because it doesn't do this pointless and poor thing. Geist's VN does not function as a VN and we only call it that because it's shorthand for whatever you can call a WIP half VN that you would see inbetween matches of a different game YouTube video. It think you've entirely misunderstood my point but I feel like I can only be so exhaustive. I think you view writing too linearly and definitely too selectively. Frankly I think you're not much of an authority on writing or its critique and I think you should remedy this before asserting things beyond your own feelings.
>>542214213dont worry buddy, there's a game out there just for you
>>542209420help
>>542214213this nigga is mad he can't aim lol!
>>542214892I'm pretty sure we're in agreement. I don't think it's AMAZING or anything, but calling it bad or saying it's gacha or overwatch tier is just pure nonsense. It's unfinished and a competitive multiplayer game. That already having a cool setting and neat yet not overwrought characters is an achievement in itself.
>>542214213>zoomersWait until this retard finds out people have been bunnyhopping and zooming across maps in deathmatches ever since shooters were played in dial-up. You're the tourist here nigger
>>542214213go play rivals you inbred
This is what Calico would look like if valve developers could visualize the apple in their head.
>>542213094Oh I see, you're a dalit american pig who enjoys women who are whores and disobedient. Yes go fuck your vampire slut in your mind Krisha cut your dick off bastard
>>542215158I went to comicon in London like this year and there was an indie dev area and one booth was some shitty unity engine arena shooter and I sat down and started b hopping and airstrafing so I was going around the tiny monochrome map at mache 3 and since we were all on controller no one could shoot me.
>>542214665You're a millennial
>all oracles are now ascendants>therefore majority of ascendants now have zero macrothey'll get filtered and drop to phantom within a week
>>542215415ascendant 2 to eternus 6 was a whopping 500 players in NA before, this was good to more evenly spread out the ranks
>https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/played-as-mina-in-this-match-and-after-i-quit-normaly-game-placed-2-low-p-matches-after-1-lose-on-low-prioprity-game-added-more-4-matches-in-low-p.85359/Is he right?
>>542215560don't quit > don't get put into low prioit's that easy
>>542215539it was, i was asc for a while and rarely ever got asc matches at all. i dont mind the skill range being wider as long as the system correctly funnels down the overranked shitters and stays able to populate asc+ matches
>>542215560>slav subhuman sperging out on forumLiterally showing us he has no self control and the maturity of a 4 year old. No surprise he gets reported and leaves games
>>542215560this dude posted like 15 games in one day what the fuck
>>542215752they're all short games though it looks like he trolls and people give up lol
>>542214213This retard can't circle jump from bridge to rail
Valve should've made demons in this universe more like pic related.
I can't wait for them to add Cadence and she's a big demoness babe
>>542214213valorant is not a movement shooter you retard its slow as balls. kill yourself if you don't want to get good at the game
You could post clips from Valorant and Apex Legend and I couldn't tell you which is which
>>542214892>writing can't be good unless everyone's saying fuck and vagina all the time
how the fuck is gun doorman still not nerfed
>>542214909>Many stories have done wishmaking plots and almost none of them give an explantion to how it works and you're being beyond autistic to assert that Deadlock's writing is bad because it doesn't do this pointless and poor thing. I would not believe Ivy would just walk up to a Patron, form some kind of contract involving shooting up largely uninvolved New Yorkers. And it can't be something else, otherwise she would not even be in the story. It's just not believable unless I'm willing to be incredibly, astronomically generous.And lets be generous and call the Patron's wishes an "ambiguous plot device". Okay, so what do the characters do actually in New York? Oh right, it's not written in, it's completely just not there.The banter's fun, the story is basically not there. We really really do not have much to work with here. Off the top of my head:>Infernus wants to save Jezebels!Why the fuck does he need a Patron for this.>Ivy wants to save HarlemShe literally already did and wouldn't be irresponsible enough to summon a Patron.>Kelvin wants to find out who he wasIn a world full of mystics, why bother with a Patron?>Haze wants to... uhm...Literally unwritten, to the point where it's been canonized that her not knowing what she wants to do is the point (omg so deep)It's so ass the moment you start asking anything about the characters.
>>542217086Uh oh new boogeyman found
>>542214868Start running pal
>>542217086It's not that good, the hitbox is just big. Even Viscous is a more viable gun pick.
I've almost hit 400 games on viscous, and I think im starting to understand puddle punchIts a free melee hit, and the most powerful movement ability, and a bebop hook, and sometime even just a smoke bomb
>>542214868>give up on rank and try new characters, losing a bunch of games in the process>everyone gets a rank up>im just put back to my original rankmood
>>542217086Literally just disarming hex himYou DO buy counter items right Anon?
>>542217315this happened to me.
wasn't aware of just how shit i was at the game until i got leapfrogged into fucking eternus for some reason
>>542217468NOTHING CHANGED RETARDYOU ARE PLAYING THE EXACT SAME GAMES ARE BEFORE
>>542217086it genuinely isn't that viable or good compared to any other M1
>>542217086half of doorman's power is in his 2, everything else about him is medicore
>>542217503>ARE BEFOREhaha you're brown
>>542217468Game claims I am somewhere between seeker and alchemistI have been the designated losing element of several archon and emissary games beforeIt's ok bro, just play focus on your enjoying the game
Considering some people jumped more badges than others their games should not "be the same"
>>542217503Except I'm playing against high elo streamers that I never saw before so evidently something changed under the hood>b-but Yoshi--is a fucking liar
>>542217503anon's source: idk how matchmaking works internally i just like yelling ;)
>>542217503no ur the retard dumbass the game literally ranks you with similar ranks so if you get higher you will be higher rank games
I'm getting gaped in Phantom man it's direI've lost 4 games in a row and I haven't even gone down one tier
>>542217706that might just be a regional thing though
Who is a decent deadlock streamer I can watch. Not looking to be a better player just want something on the second monitor when I'm working
>>542217997The phantom games really don't seem any different to me from the ritualist games I was in yesterday. I'm still winning them just as easily.
>>542218012Northernlion is funny but I don't know if he'll stream it again.
i think they overcorrected too hardmy games are exactly the same but now everyone has an ego
>>542218012when sneakylol (old league player) plays it i find it enjoyable background noise
>new to the game just 40 hours in>was Initiate 1>now Im Seeker 1This is a mistake right? Everybody is way smarter and clearly not a new player like me because they know the movement tech well enough to leave in the dirt.
>Paige in lane that builds nothing but support items and funnels all the resources into meGet the FUCK off of me I can't carry games you fucking sicko. You aren't pinning this loss on me I won't let you
>>542218363>she does this>I do carry the game>everyone says how good she is at the gamethis dude spoke in voice so everyone knew it was a man, why the fuck do supports get so much praise for throwing a shield on me while I do the work FUCK
>play with friends>feel bad because they're all higher rank than me and thus I anchor the team by losing lane>play alone>feel bad because I'm playing this game alone even if I do well
>>542215560Losing low prio games now adds more required wins to the counter? What the fuck? I was put in low prio a year ago and I only needed to win 1, but I lost 5 times before that happened. I can't imagine how torturous that must be now. I'd just make a new account and never look back
>>542218361The difference between initiate 1 and seeker 1 is like a penny to a nickel. Back in 2024 there were only a triple digit amount of players in Initiate in its entirety. Only two people in Initiate 1.
Golden infernus
>>542218585I dont think so I think he just got reported or abandoned again and he's too retarded/drunk to realize afking also abandons not just leaving
Just did 98000 damage as vyper. Started spirit then went full gun build. Not sure if ricochet is splitshot is better on her late game
>>542218647I feel there's a sharp contrast between the rank because everybody knows how to move efficiently and before everybody was sluggish.
>>542218647I remember when initiate was so novel it was quaint to see a replay posted here of that rank.
>>542218497Oh boo fucking hoo Fuck off you attention whore
>>542218891>start spirit, gun lateras i thought that seems like the way to go because her spirit damage is absurdly overtuned during laning
>>542218891>Not sure if ricochet is splitshot is better on her late gameget both for laughs
>>542219453those two items are such weird choices. there have to be better 6ks for her.
>been playing a lot victor because he’s fun and fits my playstyle>however struggle to take objectives because I HAVE to rely on my team >no map pressure, I cannot even push up in case of a gank because no escape tools>walker also get a fucking STUN so one has to waste eshift to even try get main source of dmg from aura to hurt the walker>also have to tailor my build perfectly to not melt>try infernus>sit on side lane with a free escape>easily end games 10k+ doing most objective damageHonestly just remove the walker stomp. This shit is ruining the game, and I’m glad Yoshi is considering getting rid of it
>>542219536Why? If you are hitting two people that's a +100% damage buff. Not to mention applying neurotoxin which is not only big damage but also 40% antiheal that doesnt require a slot.
>>542219651dude just bait the walker stomp and then dash outalso victor is known for being good at melting objectives
>>542219651Walker stomp should movement lock like billy knockup but not full stun
>>542219651>>542220093Literally just bait like that anon said, run out using 2 if you're bad at timing it.
We need to give Paradox charges on her Kinetic Carbine, and entirely remove the wind-up feature and make it instant, while increasing the size of the projectile. We also need to lower the cooldown on Paradox's Time Wall and give it an inherent curse. We should also increase Paradoxical Swap's range by an infinite amount, and give it a % execute.Lastly, we need to make Paradox fly, while tripling her weapon damage.
somehow my games have gotten worse after the update
>>542220446what a fascinating dive into how retarded the average paradox player is, even comparing the character to GT means you dont fundamentally understand your own character
>>542220554I don't play Paradox, but you should tell about how Gay Talon is actually fair and balanced because uh he has low HP o algo (his only weakness)
>>542220554he didn't even try and you fell for itmaybe i'm falling for you pretending to fall for it
is playing abrams keyed or no
>>542220761abrams players are my top 3 favorite playerbases, theyre almost always chill as fuck or entertaining so yeah I guess
>>542220093>>542220332I mean that’s true and thanks for trying to give tipsI can usually manage that, but I guess my main point is how gay it is that gun/m1 heroes have a massive advantage in taking objectives >>542220190years it also feels awful when it does nothing to help youThis mechanic just sucks in general all to serve homosexual lash players who ult you into it
After today's update i'm now Ascendant 3, is the highest rank i have ever been in any game. Which is funny because all things considered i play this very casually
>>542221035Yeah but those M1 heroes that can melt objectives don't tend to have immense tankiness and a revive. Still I can't agree with nerfing Walkers at this point, they are already so pathetic.
>>542221105time to take it seriously and go pro then
>>542221105Mobas have always been an IQ+emotion test if you have basic mechanical skill and make good decisions you can be really good
Do I play a game before bed or just go to bed
>walker>doesn't walk
>>542220761abrams is the most keyed egged based pepe sneed hero in deadlock i am afraid https://files.catbox.moe/3wc9ld.mp4
>>542221158Nah, i'm not actually good. Still get stomped horribly when matched against Eternus players, it's like they're playing another game entirely. Plus i'm 30, can't keep up with them whippersnappers
>>542221204I clapped seeing thisso much soul
>>542221204you're down 9k on an abrams. literally inted
>team mindlessly groups as 5 and pushes mid>literally>all>game>but they don't actually have the balls to hit the walker, so they get held off by 3 people all game, sometimes even getting shitrolled by Seven clicking his ult and some guy in the mic going "FUCKING HATE SEVEN">meanwhile I'm basically the only one stopping two different lanes from getting pushed in>the only teamfight we won is because I 5 man ulted>we get midboss>we push mid>the entire team dies to Seven (again)>we barely manage to hold the base, kill 2 people>we could push all lanes out and then go for a pick>no we should group as 5 and push mid again because they lost 2 people>whole team dies to Seven>loseWhat the actual fuck was that
>>542221385nvm sorry webm compression hit when i looked
>>542221385
>>542221204that fake out into 180 degree turn into actually punching you anyways at 10 seconds made me laugh.absolutely no shame.
Please for the love of God let me surrender.... if the enemy team is up 30k it is impossible to win..
>>542217086takes a shit ton of yellow/gun investment and relies heavily on the cart stun for guaranteed burst damage. I won't downplay, but it's just a viable semi-carry build rather than a true hyper gun carry like ivy. if you start treating his cart like an abram's shoulder charge, you immediately win the confrontation without cart
any guides on playing shiv? was bumped up to ascendant 3 from archon 5 today and despite everyone sperging out about how matchmaking wasn't changed my lobbies have been measurably more difficult and it's made me realize i have no idea how to properly play him. i feel like i have no hp in fights, no movement to get to fights, or no damage in fights - it just ends up turning into ultbot shiv waiting to have people low and press button to win most of the time outside of lategame.i try to build trophy collector and movement items like fleetfoot and enduring speed so i can get to fights faster and snowball, but even when buying improved spirit and tankbuster i feel like i have 0 agency in most teamfights and it's disappointing to myself and teammates
>>542221791well start by not buying fucking trophy collector what the fuck you are a god at skirmishes and the mid game and you are throwing that away for trophy collector
>>542221791>i try to build trophy collectorholy fucking shit
>>542221791you're a tank meant to soak up damage and press 4. the snatch melee hit -> arctic blast -> dash combo also kills everything, so just go pure green/purple
>>542221935>>542221949i regularly hit the cap on trophy and figured it made an impact but i wasn't sure ;_; im sorry
>>542221791all the damage you need is spirit snatch, cold front and decay for building and keeping rage updon't bother with speed items, you gain a +2m buff on max rageif you're having trouble finding yourself in fights, you need to rotate better and get better at predicting when fights will spark (what we young call gamesense)
>>542221791>any guides on playing shiv?Just do the standard spirit snatch, tankbuster, cold front, mystic shot build that everyone does.Unless there's a Victor on the enemy team. If that happens you need to build gun items instead or he'll just run at you and kill you.
if you try to buy trophy collector the game should just force you to buy cultist instead
>>542222050i'm unsure if it's just an archon and below thing but most of the time i find lanes are just constantly being pressured by troopers and we have 0 waves defending so despite calling to people to fix lanes i've always felt forced to fix waves or just lose walkers for free, so i figured having some form of movement would be nice since you don't get rage from npcs anymore. i've kept decay but i will keep spirit snatch in mind :)
>want to buy a green to stop instantly dying>it doesn't help at all>I have now also fucked up my build progression and wasted my moneyHow do I live longer?
>>542222264if you dont even post who youre playing how do you expect advice you donut
>>542222186trophy collector seriously needs to be 1600 or buffed with an actually good stat (+ movespeed or resists)
>>542222264position betteryou have 100% damage reduction when you're behind a wall.
>>542222240spirit snatch is absurd, just go for light melees; your dash usually gives you a good window for a surprise light melee.enduring speed is still fine, I guess there's not much issue with it, I love the speed myself.what's likely happening with the minions is that you and/or your teammates are only clearing a single enemy minion wave. You need to clear two waves to make sure that your minions will have enough health to keep pushing forward rather than getting pushed back by the healthy enemy minions.
>>542222264Buy things that help with CC instead of just resistance because that's usually what gets you killed. Like get e-shift, reactive barrier, or counterspell.Instead if it's someone just mag dumping into you, get disarming hex. If it's a calico jumping on you and oneshotting you, get better positioning, and maybe get silence wave to try to shut her down in team fights.
>>542222264playing in the archon matches i had before today i was able to always be top3 and fight most fights without issue so i've sort of pavlov'd myself into thinking it's useful on shiv but it's clear now it's not - never was a fan of trophy on any hero but tried it in more than 30 matches prior to today and never was punished for having it. good to know now it's clearly not a good option :) thanks folks, will take your suggestions and apply them
>>542222264post a match ID
>>542222343i've always been against melee in general since it's easily punishable but to be honest i was unaware it proc'd on light melees too (despite a 2x cd). i'm aware of how to clear lanes but most teammates i see clear the single wave and ignore the Very Obvious wave coming in to destroy the low hp friendly wave, and most times i find telling teammates to clear both waves goes through one ear out the other :(
>play haze>spend the whole match getting run down by paradox and calico>win anyways because our vyper was untouched and farmed up to 50kobnoxious game even though i won
>>542222330KINETIC PULSE!
>brool is breaking out>but a wave (maybe even two) is pushing up to our walker on the opposite side of the map>playing damage hero, feel like i should be at the fight as a result, but nobody else wants to clear the lanesis it bad of me to not be in fights in favor of making sure our shit doesn't get pushed or is it unironically something someone else should be doingi don't mind being the one to clean up the creep waves i just wanna make sure i know how to tell if it's the right call
>>542222994have money? fightno have money? clean wavemany niggas at the fight? push walker
>>542207890>SevenHe got the name (and kit) from Sven
i hate stomp dynamo so much
>>542223040t. stompee
>>542223040double jump
>>542222724It sure is great how some AOEs like Kinetic Pulse are allowed to completely ignore walls and line of sight, while others got explicitly targeted and neutered into simple flat planes that can be easily invalidated.Yoshi doesn't have favorites though, no way.
>>542222994if people choose a stupid fight that accomplishes nothing over macro, that's on them.every time i have decided to lose farm to join a stupid fight i have regretted it.
>>542223095Doesn't double jump not work anymore? I thought they buffed stomp's vertical height so when he gets range upgrades you're shit out of luck
>>542223040>range scales off of spiritwtf now I want to play dynamo
didn't take long to derankthis matchmaking still sucks ass
>Trying to play Doorman>Can't aim so every time I do gun build I do horribly>Try spirit build>No idea what to buy after three items and it's boring as hell throwing out two bells, maybe a cart, and then having to run for the hills because Doorman is so fucking squishy he'll die if more than one of the enemy team looks at him funny>Nobody I normally group up with wants to play with me until I have an improvement in rank, and now that it's all fixed that seems impossible unless I buckle down and play the character "correctly"Is Spirit Doorman SUPPOSED to be boring?
>>542224101all spirit characters are bring except lash and pocket
>>542223415Not going to fix itself in one day retard bro
>>542224101You dont need aim to play gun doorman. You use your cart to stun them and hit for free.You also probably fail to understand how to play spirit in a fun and engaging way.
>>542224101>I'm badcool post
>suffering game>god game>misery game>enemy team is a fleshlight gameCan't remember the last time a match was even
>>542223415I ranked up after a few games
>>542224294>shit before>still shit now (but it will totally get better)damn that makes me feel better as a new player getting stomped every game in arcanist
>>542224378Cart also requires aiming, even better aiming as it is slower than a bullet.>>542224701I never said I wasn't shit at this game, I just feel like something has gone horribly wrong if the trying to learn how to play it the proper way makes it LESS fun
>>542224909>(but it will totally get better)deadlockers are addicted to copium
Honestly, Haze would be so much better if Fixation wasn't as fucked as it was
Guys, I think I just fucking hate this game. Why can't I stay away when it's nothing but faggotry and frustration?
>>542225097just arcane dash into them so it's bigger and longer (no homo)
how do I itemize as wraith against a fed haze?
>>542204872>>542204872>>542204872THIS LITERALLY MEANS THAT PEOPLE IN EU WERE MUCH MORE SKILLED THAN NA PLAYERS LMFAOARCHON IN EU = ASCENDANT IN NAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAAAHAHAHAHA HAHAAAHAAHAAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAAAHAAHAAHAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAAHAAAHAHHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHHAAAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I HOPE I NEVER HAVE TO SEE ANOTHER RUSSIAN NIGGER EITHER!!!!!HOW WILL NA EVER RECOVER FROM THIS
>moved to emissary 3 from alch 3>people in my games somehow become worse
>>542227229moron
>>542227229how does it mean that in the slightest
>>542227229>HOW WILL NA EVER RECOVER FROM THISOnly the subhuman wiggers care, any being of intellect already is aware of the state of us.
>>542227313>We're updating rank badges globally. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHANIGGER IN NA DOESN'T KNOW
>>542227561so you're delusional, got it.
>hit yamato with shock>she just heals it right backI don't play Yamato, but she seems to have far more self healing than Victor. I know her slash has lifesteal but what the hell keeps healing her this much with her longer slash? I don't get it. She would heal like 1/3rd of her health bar with each strike it felt
>I am farmed, fed and doing serious damage in fights>lose anyway cause my team is full of brown FPStards that just want to DIVEDIVEDIVEDIVEDIVE OOGA BOOGAAAAAAAAA ME HIT FAAAAAACE constantly against a literally undiveable comp (either cause they have multiple methods to deny you the kill like Ivy Stone Form, Pocket being Pocket>or they just kill you for trying to play anything other than front-to-back against them-- ie. Warden, Haze, Shiv + a Paige plugging 500+ HP shields into all 3 of them at onceGet these fucking FPStard gorilla niggers out of this fucking gaaaaaaaaame
>third person shooters
new vindicta face sucks, she looks like a kpop singer. i miss the creepy colonial girl
>>542223415>matchmaking is bad when I loseLol
>>542229108it's bad when i'm new and getting into unbalanced games and stomped every game, correct.
Every game is the same>enemy mina gets gigafed by two retards>10 trillion souls behind>midboss roar
>>542210112more like Barage
i simply started playing mo and krill to survive these ascendant lobbys.
bunnymaxxing echo shard sinclair: hot or not?
>>542229580And so another top1000 tank main was born.
I'm Archon 3 now for some reason.
>>542226858Just use your ultimate. If she's smart enough to counterspell or i-frame it, consider curse or silence wave.
>>542229779yes , get melee items too. Lifestrike also slows them in bunny form so they cant get away
Now that ranks have been updated, anyone below ascendant 3 is terrible at deadlock. Phantom and low ascendant join the poop ranks
>>542230278So like how everything below immortal is terrible in dota....
>>542229108NTA, but Yes. Cause normally every loss feels like a state-mandated STOMP where you get 4-5 of the absolute dumbest, blackest retards fucking possible instead of a remotely close game where one team genuinely outplayed the other. 1 in every 100 games feels like it's remotely close at all. The other 99 games are all fucking one team of actual human beings stomping a team of 4-6 brown subhuman inbred retards and it's not fun at all. Nor is it remotely fucking fair.
>>542230278Raise that to eternus 1 at least. Asc 3 is like high archon before. Frankly I thought that anyone below phantom 3 was terrible before the change.
>Emissary 5-archon 3 hover>Ascendant 2 with rank changes>the rank right below eternus, the highest rank?is this game retarded?did they just stuff everyone above Oracle into assorted eternus divisions?
Can't wait to log into my acc and see no rank changes whatsoever
aaaaah fellow Ascendant chads how are we feeling today?
>ritualist 3 to oracle 5 yayyyyyyyyyyy dopamine acquired
Thoughts on gun Paige?
>>542230757Everyone was complaining about matchmaking so they ranked everyone up so they all jerk themselves off and praise Yoshi despite nothing changing, not realizing they've been made fools of like this guy >>542231130
>>542205413This is literally the coolest shit I have seen in all of these shit threads
>>542231224it was pretty good before, got a little nerfed. still alright. Maybe do split shot and the increased velocity meme item but other than that not too great any more
Thematically, Doorman's ult would fit better on Haze.Actually, almost nothing about Haze's spells fits her lore.
I was Initiate 1 for fucks sake why am I arcanist now? PUT ME BACK
>>542230467See nigger, the problem with this mental gymnastic olympic gold medal attempt you're pulling out of your ass here is (you) are not including yourself in the darkies polluting your games. As if you were good, played well, and deserved fair wins so you could feel good about yourself, flatter your deranged ego and stroke your small cock without starting to cry. But you're shit the same as those who blame. You smell bad, you play bad, you suck at carrying your team, you can't communicate, you can't move fast, you can't duel, you can't push, you can't make the right calls and you can't improve. The only thing you're good at is shifting the blame onto everyone else as if you were going 1v11 every fucking game. And you won't even get a medal for that, cause the eternus streamers are already hogging the podium.
>>542231306Express Shot + Split Shot + Hollow Point absolutely fucks if you're an aimlet like me.You can 100-0 everyone in a flash but you can also be bursted down immediately, it's fun.
>>542207749>>542207506paige is a bookworm obsessed with arthurian fantasy (a knights assistant is a page)
>>542231398Yeah, I'm not including myself, cause I'm not the one doing stupid shit, going 1-10 every game cause these apes are treating this like it's CoD or something.
>>542207506>is a sniperSniper>is an alchemistAlchemist>is a witch doctorWitch Doctor
>>542210926>>542212742>Why do you think the writing is bad?Valve stopped caring for the time period they set the game in. Also Billy and Paige are beyond cringe.>I don't see why this is badBecause we have few too many generic games with undetermined time periods/style choices. Once Valve started dilluting the setting they've set the game in instead of doubling down on it it started losing its amtosphere and appeal.Compare Geist to Mina and see for yourself
>>542207956Drow Vindicta was cute but then they remodeled her to actually look like a dark elf for some reason
>>542207506Downsides?
>>542231930Are you on molly? Old Vind had a horse face and was beyond ugly. What you said isn't even revisionism, this is a delusion.
>>542231754plap lyney
>two prio heroes>dont get either of them>forced to watch the biggest pussy shiv ever never ult the enemies i get low
>jeets complaining about their teammates not realizing they suck ass too>cry and blame matchmaking>valve gives everyone ascendant and phantom medals>all the jeets are still grouped together but they all think they're pro now and the struggle in their games is only because of their newfound rank>they're all pacified>literally nothing changed but an iconValve are genuinely brilliant for this.
>>542232617>jeets brown brownoid jeet brownwhy is every thread like this now?and why can you never bring this up without being accused of being a heckin jeet as well? it feels so forced
>>542232089No shit her model was unfinished and low quality, but the plumper face fit her better. Now she just looks like an emaciated elf.
This game needs little girl characters(Mina is too old)
>>542232727ok replace jeets with retards and then you'll be happy
I just picked the game up right before the rank distribution change and now that matchmaking exists, new player = put in the eternally hardstuck shitter bracket, tips for improving in the face of ggs and rageafk 3 minutes in?
>>542232727A significant demographic of this website (asocial failed white men) have nothing to take pride in about their life except the fact they were born in a white country, hence they project their imaginary adversaries as being of an "inferior" race.
>>542232727I'll take jeet spam over the tranny spam I wish we could go back to nigger or faggot spam but you can't stop the flow of time.
>>542232867>I just picked the game up right before the rank distribution change...twelve hours ago?
>>542232895trvthnvke
>>542232895Kek whities btfo!
>>542232986like 3 days ago but its close enough
>>542232895this, wiggers are no better than nogs.
>>542233047Well, since you start in REAL Initiate, not the one that lumped in every decayed player with higher skill levels, just spam Abrams, they won't know how to parry you.
Is there any interest in hosting a European inhouse since it's a weekend?
>someone takes offense to being called brown>everyone starts circlejerking about how much whites suckheh
>>542232902I just wish people were a little more effortful with their insults. Or better yet they weren't so highstrung and pissy by default
>>542233263But I am white too? I'm just tired of low effort incel edgelords. They need to be more refined, like my nigga Seven.
>>542233350>But I am white too>my nigga SevenYou cannot use that word
>>542233142isn't matchmaking badges on a by character basis? I'd like to build up to decent matches on my vindictur...
>>542233381>isn't matchmaking badges on a by character basis?No, but the game keeps track on if your skill level of a specific hero is above or below average for your badge. It doesn't show a badge, but hero specific MMR exists.
>>542212692it's pocket
>>542212692Pocket, Shiv, Billy, Mina, etc.?
>from arcanist to archon 6What the fuckOCE Is a shitshow anyway, but what the fuck
picture says 1,000 words
My beloved Mina
>>542204872>Alchemist to Oracle
Valve should add a vampire hero to this game that's fvll evropean instead of some gold digging gook hapa retard.
>>542233879This ritualpost is boring, can we get some better material?
>>542233350>But I am white tooI never said otherwise you stupid fuck
>>542233263wiggers are not white of mind throughverbeitum
>>542233631Mina? A tankbuster? She does nothing to tanks.
>>542234123Her ultimate does HP based damage and she can follow up with a HP based execute, retard-kun
>>542232895You are currently typing on a European language, probably living in a European country (as in racially European), using European technology which was developed on the back of European science and math (and Jewish too to be fair).
Wait there has been a rank change? Is that why I've suddenly been thrown into archon matches for some fucking reason? I used to get alchemist and sometimes arcanist games
>>542234305They're based on fluctuating percentiles now instead of fixed values
>>542234305THEY PUT ME IN EMISSARY WHAT THE FUCK NO WONDER GAMES HAVE BEEN SO ANTI FUN
I have vyper as my third playable hero so I know it's a dedicated loss game from valve and I shouldnt bother.
>>542234503https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy
>>542234205I suppose that's true. But isolating someone with the ult is not easy. Outside of that she does nothing to ranks. Yes I know her rake deals percentage based damage at max level, but after that little burst to their 5k HP pool, she does nothing
>>542234596>ranksTanks*
>>542227229it doesn't take a fucking genius to tell, NA players are retarded loudmouths who keep talking about "femboys"honestly I'd rather have russians than burgerclaps
>>542234554If the game gives me a low prio hero I know the algo want to fuck me with absolute gorilla retards.
>>542234850RUgods are literally better than most of you faggy euros.
>>542234850>ctrl+f Femboy>1 resultHmm
>>542234305RTFOP
>>542235231For some reason Putin-slaves always have to bring up gay stuff in every thread
>>542233964There is not a single good ritual post for this general
I've heard gay shit like "oh that was such a good save, imma suck your dick right now" in about every language in this gameASSFAGGOTS really turns you into one
>>542235460there is no such thing as a good ritual post it's a fucking spam tier forced meme
>>542235564>tell dude who is bitching in mic about being constantly denied to just get high velocity rounds>"thank you so much bro I'd suck you off"why are unitedstatesians like this?
>new rank means you will most likely get faced with tougher opponents>but also better team mates>you will lose rank>mfw every game since rank update has been a win
>>542235745>"there is no draft">already 1 million rusnigs grinded into minceshit by drones & missles>rusnigs getting desperate for energy>brink of wintersoon anon, soon
Valve should add hero that can go fast to DEIlock.
>get bebop>it's oce so everyone is the sweatiest fucker under the literal sun and I'm put the fuck down constantly after hooking someone
>>542235460I like the black women one. It makes retards seethe because it's true
>>542236057Are you from the game just then where we had a Grey Talon wondering why Victor won't die
>>542208195>>542208416>>542209447Deadlock also greatly benefits from it's reduced scope, it adheres strongly to a specific sense of aesthetics and a singular place in the setting, everyone is from or has travelled to NYC to participate in a very specific event, so they mostly know each other or have some lateral participation in each other's story (Dynamo being Pocket's godfather, everyone knowing Gray Talon are examples). You can kinda piece an entire narrative in your head from the characters interactionsCompare that to most hero shooters/mobas where the scope is immense - every character effectivelly comes from a world of their completely isolated from the grander narrative save for a connection with one or two members of the cast and they have their own standoutish aesthetic as well.
>>542236182NopeThat doesn't surprise me thoughI am surprised a GT would let a Viktor get close enough to be that kind of problem though
>>542236203At the same time the writing has like 0 consequences. Nothing has happened at all. The patrons grant wishes but nobody here has theirs granted so it's like just beginning. Who cares
>>542236203>it adheres strongly to a specific sense of aesthetics and a singular place in the settingwait until cosmetics ruin everything e.g. dota 2, tf2
>>542236303As you said, it's OCE. Everyone's fucking retardedHis lane omega fed on repeat and no amount of me shitting on everyone as Billy could salvage it
>>542236393True, but I find that we have incredibly sweaty players compared to the NA games I watch, and also>I could run into /dlg/ on oce queues
>promoted from Arcanist IV to Oracle I>game is hard nowwell...
>>542236475I'd say it's a mix of sweats and retards like everyone elseThough as a rule of thumb, OCE always skills up faster than other regions, game irrelevant. Smaller region means more concentrated skill brackets (or else games literally wouldn't match) and the ones that survive playing for a few months are basically force-fed how to play better or they quit. Literally a jar of poisonous insects devouring each other until the most toxic survive
just had a game where a paradox got banned at like 20 minutes into the gamewe had the option to frog her and ban or kick now and ban, but they left before i could even vote. i wanted to see the frog.their ign was rew, game id picrel
>go like 15/4 every game>still lose more than I win>skill bracket keeps going down>kills keep going upGaben's using me as a fucking gatekeeper
>>542236759https://statlocker.gg/profile/139772546/matches of course theyre an animefag lol is this one of you guys? Be honest
>>542236782My guess is you have a bad death late game and it all crumbles down. And aren't calling for mid boss enough
>Gravel Wars>2 moneybags on life support being rused by a third party to lead an unending war >Dota>Minor deity shitfling with a forced timeloopSo we're copying the latter, I see
>>542204872>Big ass vampire with even bigger claws>Doesn't use any sort of gun>Has an ability that scales with melee>Most meta way to play him is like every other m1gger on the sidelanesOut of all the new hero designs this one is by far the most dissapointing, I don't know what either Yoshi or the hidden playtesters were smoking, but this is trash.
Is she anatomically correct during her non-stone form or is it just smooth as Barbie down there?
>>542227229I queue with my yuro friend a few times a week, he was em 5 and I was em 6after the redistribution, he was phantom 5 and I was phantom 6
>>542236981why do you think she wears pants instead of a loincloth
>>542236883I call midboss the second we're at an advantage constantlyThe bad deaths rarely start with me. I just don't play hypercarries that take the advantage and just 1vX. I play initiators and pick characters. Problem is even when I comm it, no one follows on my engages even when I can survive for 20 seconds and their team can't play. So I have to hover the resident retards on on team to counterinitiate, but by then those faggots have already melted my retardRinse repeat
>>542237123Yeah initiators have it rough cause without proper follow up they just get molested. Then in my case my only recommendation is maybe getting ethereal shift to not insta die if your team fucks you.
>Promoted from Alc 3 to Emissary 3>Queues are 3 times as long and 1/3 as funT-thanks for the update
>>542237365you are in the exact same elo as before. nothing has changed. god you whiney faggots annoy me, at least i know now every mm complaint is just retards
I wish there was an easier way to see exactly how many people are in an areaBetween 6 people in matches vs the usual 5 in mobas, and the way the icons just fucking SPIN around each other on the minimap, it's fucking impossible to go "oh there's 4 people there, I'll push walker"
Did matchmaking actually change to consider percentiles instead of skill brackets or not?
>>542237674no, rank badges changed to be based on percentilesthe matchmaking didn't change, just the part that you see
>>542237463There's a hud mod that darkens the hero portraits at the top when the enemy is missing from the map. Very crutch for me.
Why are people so fucking passive? Are they scared to play the game? Every fucking teammate is the biggest, dumbest, most fucking useless retard I've ever seen. Wraith players who literally don't shoot people. Teammates who abandon lane at any chance and just let the enemy have it. Teammates who rarely if ever use their abilities or ultimate. Teammates who farm all game long and have souls but suck so much dick at the game they still lose and die constantly.I just don't get it? How are you supposed to do anything except lose? There is no amount of asking, questioning, pleading, call outs, or anything of the sort that gets these fucking retards to not be retards. If I'm in a game I'm forced to lose, I'd rather just the game end out of sheer pity at 10min than make me play.
>>542238359rank?
>>542236665Yeah I got the retard every game so farFirst game it was meI looked at my team and went "Oh okay we have a haze infernus I'll go spirit because we've already got fire-rate"I shouldn't have
>>542238359you're from NA aren't you
>>542238359Agreed. It is the most infuriating part of the game. Nobody understands that jungling is bad and a last resort if you have NOTHING better to do. They treat it like it's the goal of the game.
Valve should add a female frontliner to deadlock.
>>542238682this is just factually incorrect, there's a point where you become efficient enough at clearing camps that it becomes the most optimal thing to do when moving between lanes, and punch boxes are always good when you can fit them into your current movement
>>542238794jungle doesn't matter that much but stealing enemy sinners and doing your own sinners is huge. stacking like 10 or 15 sinners in a game and you have way more stats 15x3 = 45 mini buffs
Right now sensitivity on the X and Y axis are different. So moving left and right is normal, but up and down is reduced by a percentage. You can fix this by setting "sensitivity_y_scale 1". This will make your aim even on both axis and should help when looking up/down.What is volvo thinking doing this?
>>542238794Not really. Maybe if youre stealing the enemy jungle. It's still better to stick with your team and just be ready to brawl constantly. If youre ever in a position where you cant connect with your team or push a walker you are fucking useless to your team and throwing. The game is so fast paced there's almost no good time to just jungle afk
>>542238870t. low eloevery game i play the jungle is practically empty by min 15, which is when people get strong enough to clear it. then later it becomes more stocked as people prioritize fights
>both sides jungle empty>no boxes no sinners>mid boxes respawn every 10 minutes>free 8 urns>no one takes them
>>542238976was phantom in last year around this time and i'm oracle now, it's low shitlo but it doesn't make me wrong. if you aren't focusong on sinners over everything you're just shit at the game
>>542239013fighting is scary unless it's a meaningless fight near one of the camps around the blue walker
>>542239080Omg this I love just sitting around near their blue walker it's such a good idea
>>542239045over everything? its high priority but hardly over everything, the buffs have an effective soul value of their own that make the boxes lucrative but it's not the end all be all
>>542237365Idk what to tell you man, anecdotally, my game has been shittier since
>>542235165russians can be god gamers that go 15/0 in the first 15 minutes as they rotate through lanes with bunnyhopping skill but their degenerate psychology eventually betrays them and they throw the game while screaming expletitives in cryllic at the team>>542235231i swear to god whenever I am queued with NA players they inevitably bring up femboys or other gay shit umprompted
>autistically chase SS for buffs on enemy side>get raped by their jungle farmer and feed their early T4spisslowbros...
>>542239247>whenever I am queued with NA players they inevitably bring up femboys or other gay shitthis is what "politically correct" culture does to peopleinstead of discussing how fun this or that girl hero would be to date/fuck, they have been primed from early childhood to add dicks to everything to avoid being sexist or offensive
>>542228613They made her too young looking, interactions such as with Billy and Mina imply that she is more of an adult woman.
I want to play a cute character but Dynamo is my calling.
>>542239721>she is more of an adult womanshe was killed during the witch trials, it's a generational gap
>>542239737dynamo is cute
>>542239887He's cool but not a waifu
>new rank>archon 4>win game>archon 3>lose game>archon 1ok
>>542239814Wasn't she killed as a literal child? she grew up as a ghost, for some reason.
Is there an updated chart for the new ranks yet?
Are they going to add young female midgets and gremlins besides ivy to this game?We have to attract league players somehow.
I feel like I've mastered the game I have a 55% winrate but there's really no reason to keep grinding, it just comes down to how retarded my team is and if they do mid boss or decide to feed mid walker
how do i get good at pocket
>>542240258play the hero.
>>542240187yes in this or last thread somewhere
>be Billy>pull their entire fucking team>live for 15 seconds in the middle of them>get 2 people low>entire team was nearby when I fucking started>maybe 1 person joined in>see Haze sitting behind a fucking wall as if waiting for her big moment >still waiting>still waiting>still waiting>she walks away after it's done to go kill some random guy who ran far away>they end before she even returns to baseI am so fucking tired of these retard niggersInitiators are fucking worthless in this game when you can't mind control your team into playingAn extra player over other mobas and yet somehow the playerbase is so fucking terrified that even fewer people show up to fights than other games
>>542240170>killed as a literal childnot sure where you're getting that fromthe ACCUSED witches(male or female) in general could be kids, but nothing states vindicta was one
>>542240258Learn how to play around your cooldowns to dodge spells and shit. Get good ults on multiple enemies. Put pressure on lanes by pushing along with your mobility + leap. That's about it. He's actually pretty simple strategy wise but hard mechanically
>>542240431>but hard mechanicallyhard disagree, he is very easy but he has a very high skill ceiling.
>>542240289>>542240431laning with him is really easy, teamfights are easy, but i guess midgame im just lost because he pushes poorly and farms poorlyi guess i just need to skirmish or look for fights a lot, when i try this im a bit too greedy and get caught with my cloak/satchel on cd, i guess thats just the hero tho
>>542233743the world needs more hapas
How do you make someone as based as vindicta so fucking weak.Fuck this meta.
>>542241171
>>542233743Insane how hapas literally inherit the best traits of both races>t. hapa gf with 9/10 body
>>542238754female minotaur tank.
>>542241171Hapas are the one white race-mixing example that's not a clear downgrade.
>>542236759Everyday I'm more certain paradox's winrate is just skewed by cheaters.
>>542241171the sad(?) thing is that hapas only come out pretty with asian mothersyou get ugly manlets otherwise
>>542241415it's still a downgrade since they don't get our recessive hair/eye colour genes afaik.
>>542241598
>>542241234>anime foot fetish Widowmaker XDDDKill yourself rangedcuck
>>542241487the cool thing is that 99% of white/asian couples are female asians. i speak from experience
>>542241694>picture has no feet>starts talking about his fetishloud and clear, degenerate
>>542241797well obviously, since all the white women are in relationships with black guys
>>542241923blacked isn't real, Cohen.
>>542241797lash x mina confirmed?
>>542241923anyone who finds nogs even remotely aesthetically appealing is a genetic dead end
>>542240207>We have to attract league players somehow.No, keep league players the fuck away from here.
I shouldn't be forced to scream into the mic 10 times a minute, every single fucking game, to get people to pay attention to the most basic shitWIth 5 other people on the team, you'd think someone would know to play
>>542240412IIRC she has a quote mentioning this, but it may have been hyperbolic.>"I was a child when they unjustly condemned me. Powerless in every sense of the word. But now, in death, I've become all that they feared and more."
I miss the old map. It looked like shit but the layout was so much better.>mid>those weird tunnels you could fight in>neutral creeps behind walkers you could safely farm if you were behind
>>542242215She probably means she wasn't a mature adult yet (so like teenager) not like 9 years old
>Jump from Alchemist to Emissary>Games suddenly become worse, every game has a leaver on either teamVery interesting.
>>542242138iirc, valve had a decent influx of ex-league devssome of them might be working on deadlock right now...
Seven rework when?>spirit bruiser initiator like M&K >1 is turned into a dash w/damage & slow>3 is turned into a stronger torment pulse
>>542239887>cookie floating in the goohehe, cute
I like how this update exposed all the retard slaves to bias and anecdotes
>>542241171Its high variance, girls are cute but the boys are Elliot Rodger
I don't really get the point of increasing FOVMaybe if you're a tank main but not at all on the gun/spirit burst characters, you're just hurting your aim
>>542242763seven just needs either>the aoe removed on his stun(preferred) or>keep the aoe but it's now a skillshotand then he's fine
>>542241234See I really like the stake and crows but I'm an aimlet so I can't play her.
>>542243223Playing Abrams on default FOV and having half your screen covered with his big blue body
Stomping my way to Eternus
>>542243715hot
>>542243749But but dynamo is.... le bad! Muh pro draft!
Cultist on Drifter? I don't see anyone building it or recommending it but I hate being behind in gold
>>542243749whomp
>>542244153Delays your witchmail rush, not worth
>>542243223this game doesn't demand crazy precise aim
>get omega fed on Billy every game>lose every game>after like 15 games finally get put on someone else (Drifter)>play like shit>enemy Billy does well>winBait ass character
>>542240340"Muh KDA"/"I don't wanna fight until I'm so farmed I don't have to shoot someone for longer than 5 seconds to kill anyone-- just like in muh CallaDuty or CS" FPS players basically.
>>542244448Most Billy seem to turn into mini raidbosses and then try and constantly 1v4 after early/mid and get dumpstered on.
>>542242430that would explain the near-identical character designs/playstyles between some characters (mina/mirage, haze/wraith)
>billy ults>literally standing behind a truck for the full duration>it grabs me OVER the fucking thingthis shit is so retarded.
Need more characters with skills that count as heavy melee. We have what, 4 melee skills, only 2 of which count as heavy?
>>542245325Meanwhile Yamato for some reason has none.
>Enemies been oppressive & destroying us from lane to mid game>They fall off hard and we comeback eventually>huh, what the fuck? See this in result screenAlright, I learnt that the whole team all in spirit is bad.Glad it's the enemy that made the mistake and not my team.
>>542245373Yeah that’s always been weird to me. Then again I think it would make her absurdly strong if one of her skills could proc lifestrike or spirit snatch, let alone cursing fists.
>>542245429Geist would be getting a report if he was on my team
>>542204872wow so I went from alchemist to emissary cause of this? unreal.
>>542244943you'll also know who to thank when they add epic Kung-Fu fighting, hypermobile supercarry character Wang-Chén who has voicelines in Mandarin Chinese also when the cringe western Halloween event gets cancelled in favor of based two-month long Chinese new year event
>get jumped up from Emissary 6 to Ascendant 1>Paired with Eternus 6 player in lane>He quickly judges me for buying Debuff reducer against Mina / Infernus>I ask whatsittooya>"I'm Eternus 6 I know what I'm talking about"Are all of them so smug like this? I appreciate that you're trying to help and all but the lack of humility disgusts me a lot.
>>542243223deadlock is ultrawide claylook how much room everything has to breathe
>>542246190zayum zaddy what monitor and specs?
>>542246190Basically walls, you can stand 10ft from the corner and peek
>>542245875I was Immortal in Dota way back before ranks got inflated and player numbers was at an all time high,so I do understand their mindset, I will treat you like a subhuman if you bought a wrong item or leveled the wrong skill, but only because the game was already out for a while and the meta was stable so builds were already been figured out, but deadlock is literally in development with patches happening every week or two so he's just being a fuckwit.
>>542243749ICAN'TCONTAINIT!
>>542245875You really should just get enchanters or spirit shielding (depending on your hero's health pool) in that situation instead of debuff reducer though, remover is an item you want to get later in the game when you've got the HP to justify needing it
>>542245852dotka has much more chinaman golden wangwong dragon shit in it tho
Did they change anything to make matches shorter? I used get 45minute games on average with a couple of hour long games few months ago, nowadays most of my games lasts around 25-35 minutes after one or two midboss pushes.
if they don't make calico an egyptian qveen this halloween the game is dead
did valve even playtest this before releasing billy?
>>542247153midboss buff change was the biggest single thing
>>542247213Calico is ethnically Egyptian
>>542247068Yeah I'll start doing that instead. In what situation would Debuff Reducer be useful for then?
>>542247312Pocket ult, Mo grab
>>542247312Immediately before buying debuff remover or unstoppable. It's not really a stand-alone item. Even if I'd want to consider it for a Mo & Krill ultimate in lane? Reactive Barrier exists. It's hard to justify 1600 souls on just the debuff resistance.
>>542247393bait
>>542244598Yeah which is retarded. Billy's literally made to go in and chain everyone, but even a fed Billy melts like fucking butter the second he tries. Doesn't even matter whether his team's there, unless the enemy is just braindead she should be dead pretty much as soon as his pull goes off
>>542247124oh okay sorryyou'll know when pocket gets a pride month skin that puts the enbie flag pattern on his scarf
>>542247580Makes it sound like DR is just a bait item then.
>>542247725Mina is a league design, I know because valve could not make a cute character even if their lives depended on it.
>>542247752Debuff Remover is an incredibly good item, Reducer's only value is that it builds into it in my opinion. It used to counter Abrams and force him into at least buying Duration Extender but since that's no longer the case I pretty much never buy Debuff Reducer unless I'm going to upgrade it straight after
>>542220554What the fuck is this gif from. I don't even play this game. i got here on accident and this gif is haunting me.
I’m getting more quitters and base sitters since going up in ranks with the adjustment. Why are people like this.
>>542247840>I know because valve could not make a cute character even if their lives depended on it.Did they not design the head crabs or was that somebody else?
>>542247840calico and wraith are League designs too, I can tell because they're sheboons
I went from Ritualist IV to Oracle VI wtf
>>542247231that shit confuses me a lot, does it mean the chain break as in you dont get pulled at all or you get pulled but stop if you hit a wall? because in the game both cases are possible when out of los
>>542248231everyone got moved up 3 ranks, same people, different badge
>>542247068you buy debuff remover 3rd item as vindictal
>>542249203Haven't played Vindicta since my very first game of Deadlock over a year ago now
>>542249270only half kidding by the waypeople seriously buy knockdown second item in fucking lane
>>5422479833 matches in a row. At least this last cunt left 4m in so we could all quit out fast. Was having a good lane too, and HIS lane partner was doing fine despite him dying 3 times.
>>542245325>>542245373>viscous 3 counts as full heavy melee >billy 1 only counts as 60% of one>why don’t calico 2, drifter 1, and bebop 1 get the same upgrade to heavy melee as those two?>why doesn’t a single one of yamatos skills count as melee?>should hitting a wall with abrams charge count as a heavy melee or would that be too strong?
>>542247696team game>Doesn't even matter whether his team's thereif the enemy is wasting all their cooldowns and ammo shooting billy and getting CCd by his shit, and your team can't capitalize on that, your team is garbagehes a brooler that can't close games or even guarantee fights on his own. if you're not queueing with a friend who can play a carry then don't pick billy
>>542249734>>billy 1 only counts as 60% of oneI guarantee you this wasn't always the case. It would've been nerfed from 100% after being tried out in the private playtest before these heroes went live
>>542247696>she should be dead pretty much as soon as his pull goes off
>>542249734what's the point of these heavy melee upgrades anyhow? crushing fists is pretty weak
>can't rescue beam people through doorman doorsman...
Trancendent Cooldown, Boundless Spirit, Escalating Exposure, and Spirit Burn are the four horsemen of generic spirit builds
>secret playtest of an invite-only alphais there a super secret playtest where they test things before testing them?
>>542250397they probably have an in office playtest environment yeah
>>542250397This used to be the only one but at some point they made another one and only invited the most gay and faggiest of North American players to it
>>542250397Understand that the way Valve is handling Deadlock is fucking stupid and makes no sense and they're only getting away with it because they're Valve
>>542250291>more damage>triggers melee charge's 25% damage amp>half cooldown on lifestrike and spirit snatch>more healing from lifestrike
>>542250568That's because those most gay and faggiest NA players have the highest individual skill by a lot, regardless of what Europeans may tell themselves.
>>542250812>That's because those most gay and faggiest NA players have the highest individual skill by a lot, regardless of what Europeans may tell themselves.Which is why all of the new heroes released in an insanely broken state because NA retards are totally incapable of meeting peak potential on the characters, right?
>invite retarded NAggers>make pikachu face when said retards can't navigate a simple maze
How does ANYONE use heavy melee above Ritualist without being instaparried?Not only does every single one of them have the timing to catch Billy's light-melee weaves and Calico's combo, but they no longer fall for any feint trick that I know...
>Most successful assfaggot teams are from asia and europe>Most successful fps teams are from europe>most successful fighting game players are from asia>NA faggot thinks it's gonna be different this time
>>542251027You only heavy melee when they're stunned, distracted or have parry on CD
>>542250895Every single new release hero has been rebuffed after those initial knee-jerk nerfs except the 50% objective damage on Mina's ult.Just because EUtards take 4 weeks to figure out how to counter new stuff does NOT mean it's broken.Victor, for example, is stronger now than he was on launch.
>>542249932Yeah. And it's retarded.Most other broolers and initiators can 1vX to some degree when they're 15/3 or some retarded statline. Billy's the only one that I can think of that might struggle to even take out one person in a 1v4He's an initiator whose best partner is another fucking initiator. It's dumb>>542250020HeIt's one letter off boss
>>542251141>build all your items for a thing that can only be done every 20 seconds of soSo why do melee items exist?
>>542251245>Victor, for example, is stronger now than he was on launch.He was being played in EU pubs for only a couple of hours before the devs realised they needed to panic nerf him 50 times. You cannot seriously believe he's stronger now than he was on launch, if you did you either didn't play it/with it or you're a retard (probably that one)
>>542251027melee/parry system needs a redesignremove stuns/interrupts and make it purely about damage negation with a small window and no lockups when parrying
>>542251331If you're building all of your items around heavy meleeing with the current state of parrying, that's entirely on you. Even on Abrams the furthest most builds go before the game ends is spirit snatch and melee charge with a melee lifesteal (this is the 800 soul one) from lane. All of the spirit snatch heroes are using light melee to trigger it/ability to trigger it.
>>542251027As a Billy player, the tech is to just not melee. It's fucking gay. You use your slam to get wrecked on them and just shoot until they waste their parry. But if they don't instaparry, you can usually get in 1 or 2 lights - which is the equivalent of a heavy and he swings better than other characters - and if they then start paying attention you wait for the parries>>542251331To buff melee spells like his slamBut yes once again parry is a shit fucking mechanic
>>542251347His Aura still working through Eth Shift is disgusting
>>542251320You can 1v1 just fine as Billy, you just build him as a gun carry instead of a melee bruiser.
If you ever played dota you'd know that they always release untested broken pieces of shit heroes every single time.
>>542251412This. Parry should work like in most fighting games where it's spammable, but stops other actions (besides moving) and only reduces the damage taken.
>>542251412that would be extremely lameany design idea that comes from the place of "I hate high risk actions because it hurts my feelings when I get punished" should be discarded
>>542251534>If you ever played dota you'd know that they always release untested broken pieces of shit heroes every single time.Not the case with this game, they literally have separate build to test the heroes before they get released to the wider public to avoid another Shiv/Mirage incident
i love pentrificationthere is no ult more satisfying to kill someone with
>>542251528I didn't say anything about 1v1. I said 1vX, as in any number. Yes he wins 99% of 1v1s when he's fed, but that's retarded because his kit is clearly designed for group fights. Plus literally anyone wins 1v1s when ahead. The problem is that his playstyle remains the exact same regardless of whether he's ahead of behind, and his ult ends up counterintuitive/basically only used to grab a couple like the world's shittiest initiator, praying they don't melt you
>>542251669Yes there is.Victor's.Watching someone actually die to Victor's pop is EXTREMELY satisfying.
>>542251669It's funnier when someone dies to Doorman's ult because it launches them into the skybox when they leave the hotel.
>>542251650No amount of testing from 10 or 20 people will be enough.
>>542251758>10 or 20 people will be enough.It's probably in the hundreds or thousands. The issue is none of them are actually good at the game, but Valve is using a legally binding NDA this time so they don't really have a choice.
>>542251640I hope your gay Vindicta or whatever you play gets a 'high risk' in being knocked out of the sky by a random bullet to make it fair. It's one thing if the parry system punishes any character using melees since they generally do much damage, it's another if characters literally designed around melees have to just not play the game during the few chances they actually get to get in melee in the first placeEspecially when nigger items like Rebuttal exist for 800g and turn off an entire archetype
>>542249734viscous 3 is a light melee until you fully upgrade it
>>542251698>The problem is that his playstyle remains the exact same regardless of whether he's ahead of behindthis isn't a problem. it's your personal seethehang all armchair devs
>>542251527>a single advantageous interaction with a 6400 item is disgusting Have you PLAYED this game?There's far, FAR more egregious interactions on other characters.
>>542251834You're delusional, there's barely enough players queing right now.
>>542251650you know dota also has a test server, right? they just don't leak like a sieve
>>542251640heavy melee should have intrinsic drawbacks not dependent on other actionsit's already used mostly for movement due to obvious telegraphing
>>542251901The private playtest only plays on a very specific timeframe each week, if Deadlock can manage ~40k now a few hundred or a thousand people all playing at the same time each week is not delusional at all
>>542251867getting parried shouldn't be less punishing, whiffing parries should be more punishing
>>542252039Yeah so about 10-50 tops, sounds about right.
>was perma ritualist 1 for 70 hours>update put me at seeker 1 yesterday>now at seeker 5Feels good actually being able to see improvement.
>>542251874It's absolutely a problem because most characters get to swap up their playstyle hard when they're ahead>>durr people ahead shouldn't be allowed to do anything with itKill yourself faggot. He can't even push fucking towers solo when giga ahead
>>542251881I hate Eth Shift and I think Victor is a horrible design. He should at least be doomed to death after he resurrects.
>>542252164Billy can dodge walker stomps and his 3 makes him hard to punish if he just sits there punching it actually
>>542252135Perma initiate 1 I meant. New player.
Gun metas are so unfun
>>542252164literally just buy gun items you dumb sperganyone who seethes about their character is a manchild retard. shut up bro
>>542252187>his ult should do nothingif it doomed him to death it would have to be gigabuffed, it's a passive ultimate
>>542252187Why?Because a TANK is hard to kill?Victor is EXTREMELY easy to counter.Literally just buy antiheal.
Had the worst lane in recent memory a few matches ago. Victor + Geist. We literally could not fight because we had to kill both of them 2x over after getting bled out ourselves beforehand. Fucking cancer.
>>542252164Yea he can, you're just bad and coping.
>>542252349
>>542252502Yeah pick pocket>b-but I don't wanna play pocketthen lose
>>542252229I don't mean he can't actually kill it if he hits it unmitigated. I mean he can't push it solo and actually be enough of a threat that others have to bring 2+ people to punish himAll 1v1s characters when fed just walk at Walkers and if you step in front of it solo to defend, you fucking die. That's how they push their advantage. Billy's a 1v1 character that can't even do that>>542252328>XD just buy damageIntentionally missing the point you retarded nigger. A Paige with no items sitting there clicking a walker untouched for 2 minutes will kill it tooIt's not about whether you can literally hold left click, it's about what you can do when ahead and someone comes to defend it. If you just have to walk away from a single person when they zip in, you might as well jungle instead of pushing which means your advantage doesn't convert
>>542252502silence
>>542252557I hate slippery characters. Mina is starting to feel like Pocket 2.0 for this reason
I miss the tall building back when the game had 4 lanes, it added a bit more verticality.
>>542252502oh no!>spends .2 seconds shooting himanyways
>>542252113either you make parries less powerful(narrow frame window, longer recovery), or you make heavy melee cancelable at any pointin the first case everyone will stop parrying, in the second case top 1% will stop parryingit needs a rework
>>542252502Okay, just deal damage and reapply it again?If you're using Decay on a character than can purge you're an imbecile.Healbane, Toxic Bullets, Inhibitor, and Spirit Burn all FUCK Victor.t. Victor player
Halve all soul gain and add an extra guardian. I want lane and early game to last longer, it’s the most fun part of the game.
>>542252751The old museum was peak, the new map is lacking something similar, the whole map just feels the same wherever you're standing
>>542252947I like the garden
Parrying reminds me of For Honor's release. People feinting 90 fucking times because playing defensively was more rewarding than playing offensively. One successfully parry turned into winning the match most of the time, whereas the aggressor had to throw 10 attacks successfully to win otherwise. It was the most sleeping period I've ever played in a game, and that was as a Berserker whose entire thing was feint spamming
>>542252945>add an extra guardianincrease guardian player damage and remove the shit tower parryyou can waltz under someone's T1 like it's a big useless trooper
Why is T3 Guardians so much weaker than walkers?
>>542252860>spirit burnGets cleansed and recover while it’s on cooldown. If you’re throwing antiheal at him you want stuff that can be immediately reapplied.>>542253043Yeah towers need to do more than tickle people.
>>542253043tower parry should knock you back to the lowground
Just won a 5v6Fuck you Pocket and Victor
>>542252803everyone wouldn't stop parrying if the recovery got increasedif it's still a guaranteed kill in 80% of situations to land parry, people will go for it. the issue right now is that attempting a parry is low risk and high reward. just balance it out so that defenders have to think and melee players don't lose out on raw risk/reward>people WILL stop parrying if the risk/reward doesn't massively favor themI disagree because if they didn't represent parry at all they'll just get punched in the head, exactly how it is now. melee builds are practically free games in brackets where nobody parriesit doesn't need a hard rework. melee players are just noisy toddlers that screech and cry
>>542253141creative bankruptcy due to narrow base entrancethey should probably respawn if the shrines are still up
>>542252757That buildup value is different for each hero
>>542253167Spirit Burn has a shorter cooldown than his 2, but either way: you should be buying at least 2 of those to fit your damage type WHENEVER you're fighting a healing-heavy character like Victor, Abrams, Kelvin, ect.
>Deranked from Archon to Ritualist >Quit for a week>Come back and play a game>Im Phantom 5 nowThere's rank ascending now?
>>542253141Probably to enable steamrolling. Deadlock kinda prides itself on being faster than other moba. Once you sweep towers you either win fast or fumble at the last second and get pushed back to your base. If they were actually a threat way more games would hit 50m
>>542251669holy fucking SEX
>>542253036you used to be able to constantly feint in deadlock too and it was retardedthe big difference is that for honor had actual RPS. if the aggressor spammed feint they'd get grabbed because they'd be throw vulnerable during their heavy start up. in deadlock it's 50/50 parry or whiff, and either the system favors the aggressor or the defender. not much in the way of interplaydeadlock's fighting game rock/paper/scissors needs a scissors
>>542253340Everything about the bases seems awkward and weird. The game really falls apart after laning.
>>542253607Part of that is that the bases are literally unfinished.
>>542253371it about evens out because low fire rate guns have high build up and vice versasevens is the big outlier because of his burst fire
>>542253586>the big difference is that for honor had actual RPS. if the aggressor spammed feint they'd get grabbedYou could guardbreak on reaction with zero issues. Grabbing didn't exist except as a random hail-mary. I don't know if they changed it later, but grabbing wasn't scissors early
>>542253586>deadlock's fighting game rock/paper/scissors needs a scissorsadd a parry-punch with a different animation that will pierce a parry if it's up and do more damage than normal, like an uppercut or something
>>542251669I wish spirit vyper was more than a meme.
>your games>your deniesbe honest anons, postem
>>542253881it's called shooting themwith your gun
>>542253845only if you were in neutral or had already cancelled into the feint. during the actual start up it was vulnerable and you couldn't counter GBt. ex for honor 1v1 tournament player during the whole 6 months there was a 1v1 scene
>>542253881If they parry you’re meant to shoot them or use skills, and optionally heavy melee them while it’s on cooldown. That’s your third option.
>>542253939Gee anon we're just playing a game hereI don't wanna kill nobody
>spamming heavy melee on Abrams in shitlow where only 1 in 12 people even know there's an F key>still does less damage than spirit or gun AbramsHeavy Melee is only actually good in the first 10 minutes of a match.
Bases should have mountable turrets and cannons and death traps
>>542253909It won night shift
>>542254051people don't parry unless you melee, there's no back and forth hereif you had a telegraphed punch that did light melee-tier damage initially, that can force someone to reflex parry and get fucked they'd think twice about using a parry in the first placeit's about hedging reaction times since there's more than 1 outcome
>>542254106Idk why but Valve HATES melee
>>542254235Oh shit was my nigga fartshnizzy going off with spirit vyper during last night's chungusfest?!
>>542254375kys schizo
Does anyone else remember shadow weave having a cool little song that played like smoke of deceit? I miss it
>>542254005Yes I understand how it worked. It didn't work that way in reality. It wasn't RPS. It was rock and scissors with a hailmary third in 99% of casesGrabbing was a meme no matter how you swing it, reserved pretty much exclusively for the 2 50/50 classes, or as the shittier mind-game praying the enemy doesn't have hands
>parry in DMC and dark sauce>cool move that needs practice but lets you do a lot of damage>parry in deadcock>get fucked lol
>>542254650at top level play it definitely existed. feint spam was never a real playstyle in 1v1s because only shitters would fall for the layer one bait. the only reason to feint at all was to bait out that window of vulnerability, which stronger players would then use to light attack to OS both a feint and a GB, which would then open them up to feint parries. standard RPS interactions you get in fighting gamesit's a big part of why the game devolved into peacekeeper zone attack spam. it was unreactable AND throw invuln so it OS'd every option other than a preemptive parry attempt (which then could be reactively punished with a zone)for honor was divekick but not for the reasons you think
What if Divine Kevlar on Billy for ult. Makes sense right?
>>542255576I only buy Donkey Kong on Mo and dynamo
>>542255576I saw someone build it on Calicoother barrier items last 8 seconds, but kevlar gives 1000 barrier for 20 secondsfucking disgusting item
>>542255236You keep appealing to authority but I have 20 wall of text guides from the early days that I don't mind dropping on you and actually won money in tourneysFeint spam was quite literally Berserker's entire character and it had a positive matchup against PK in most tourneys, only getting cucked by Conq and Lawmaker, the former being the iconic 50/50 defensive machine and the latter being the defensive PK. Grabbing didn't exist in realityPK had the lowest frame zone attack at 7 frames but there were multiple others at 9 frames that matched it. It was meta because it had a bleed punish, which did more damage than an actual attack and thus it worked better in the defensive meta where literally no one wanted to attack. It got more damage in the same conditions as othersAll you did was prove why feint attack spam was the meta at the time and why grabs didn't matter. Zone attacks beat both feints and lights, which were all anyone threw unless they got a successful parry, which is when heavies came out. Don't misconstrue what happened
>Faced against Abrams/Bebop lane>Rush reactive barrier>WinOne(1) whole item is all it takes to make their stupid CC chain irrelevant.
>>542256672if you're playing against retards, sure
>>542256913I mean to be fair we were Doorman/Pocahontas, they were going to get buttfucked either way.
abrams players or MK players who drools on themselves harder
>>542255576I might try it but it also feels really shitty since you don't really use the Ability Duration, so it genuinely only has value during ult. Versus any other 6400 defensive item which has value alwaysIt'd be good after another defensive 6400 though, I guess. But 1k hp isn't exactly difficult to get through at the point where people have 2 T4s
>>542257073mouse and keyboard, they're more braindead
>>542257073bebop hooking tanks that want to be in your face
>maurice>big mole>no voicelines>krill>midget>deep voice like he has lungs twice his sizewot
>>542257648its because krill tops
>>542207506Paige is unironically a genius name for her.
>>542207506>simple and catchy names are le badWhat's wrong with you?
>>542256507>don't appeal to authority>appeals to authorityI also won money in tournaments you chimp>grabbing didn't exist in realityit did but not at the tournament level because at that level the game was defined by PK/warden pressing zone attack. any situation where you'd GB, you'd rather zone, though GB would serve a similar function in the RPS>Feint spam was quite literally Berserker's entire character and it had a positive matchup against PK in most tourneysthey didn't add his fast cancel light until later, by which point the game wasn't as defensively focused anyways, though PK zone was still definitive. pretty sure sophie was winning some tournaments with shugo around here, while that fag that popularized that one emblem was winning all the rest with PK. the game was in a much better state by this point>It was meta because it had a bleed punishno, PK was meta because she had a 300ms attack with an unreadable start up and no recovery because you'd cancel before the second hit>7f>not MSdid you even play the game>All you did was prove why feint attack spam was the metano? im telling you why feints weren't meta at all, namely that they get beat by GB and light/zone, and GB got beat by light/zone so everyone used zone attacksheavies would beat lights because the heavy would tank through the light and win the trade (zone attacks would recover too fast for this interaction to play out).heavies > lights > GB > heavies was the basic RPS. and zone attack beat all of themyou claimed the game was defined by feint spam. I said no, because any half decent player would punish heavy start ups with GB, then clarified that yeah, most people would rather zone because it was objectively better. feint spam was never a thingI think they upped the frame data on everything to be way faster around year 3 or 4, which if that's what you're talking about would make sense, but I played during year 1/2 and the game was not based on feints
Does Cultist/Monster Rounds work on structures
It's weird seeing people say the writing in this game isn't anything special. It blows the hell out of every other hero shooter dialogue wise. Like there's really no other modern PVP game that has better writing.Is it anything amazing compared to singleplayer story focused games? Of course not, it'd be almost impossible given how the games work. You just can't make a solid narrative. But compared to its peers Deadlock blows the rest out of the water when it comes to writing.
>>542258058yes
>>542258058
>>542258239the setting and character designs are really goodthe between character dialogue is cringe as hell. constant marvel tier quips that feel completely unnatural
>>542214213>Valorant>Movement shooter?????????????
Would farming out jungle in full or leaving just one weakest creep per camp hurt the enemy more?
>>542258493he brought up trannies do you really think he is a thinking individual?
>>542258538i leave weakest (unless it gets me a item)its more annoying for them
why doesn't monster rounds work on abrams,drifter,infernus,ivy,mina,mo,victor, doorman if you pass an insight check,vindicta,viscous, and vyper?
>>542258493You have uhh Jett and the one with the rocket jump ult.
Why do people think movement shooters are a zoomer thing, did everyone forget about quake and games like it?
>>542258493base movement speed is actually slower than in CSI have no idea how gooks play that shit
>>542258790it's 100% a boomer genreit's probably counterculture zoomers who think everything they don't like exists in the context of their generation
>>542258790romero (the original ADHD DM addict) and co are in their late 50s by nowthe only people calling movement/twitch shooters a zoomer thing are zoomers themselves
>>542256913reactive barrier is super fucking good since like 80% of the cast triggers it in some way
>>542258815https://youtu.be/wON2ORP-N0Q?it's coolno memorizing pixels in the sky to throw smoke grenades unless you specifically play the memorize pixels in the sky to throw smoke grenades characters
>>542258815I liked a lot of things about Valorant but I could never get over the slow move speed or the static upright models.
>>542258056>also appeals to authorityYes that's the fucking point. Your posts both used "no you're wrong because I played in tourneys so believe me bro" as its crutch. So I matched it.>actually it didn't exist at tourney level because low frame attacks were spammed>right before said grabbing existed at tourney level as the counter to feint/light spamPick a lane bro. Fast zone attacks were meta because they beat light/feint spam, and feint spam were all anyone ever did because you could counter grabs on reaction unless you got grabbed during a heavy-feint, not a light. People spammed light-feints>they didn't add his fast cancel light until laterWhat the actual fuck are you talking about. Right from the very beginning Zerk's entire playstyle was heavy > cancel > light. You either let the heavy go randomly once you conditioned people or you immediately dropped a light on someone to punish or parry. Zerk was always the iconic feint spammer above anyone else, and should've been countered hardest by the grab spam by your logic, and yet it still ran over everyone at the highest level other than 'defensive' characters with attacks at the same speed as PK's zone, ie. Law and Conq. Grabbing was unironically only a factor at the lowest level of play where people couldn't react.>no, PK was meta because... fast attackNigger are you retarded? Yes, it was 7 frames. That's what I said. But there were 3 other classes with 9 frame attacks, whereas basically anything below 12 was unreactable for parries. They all did the same fucking shit, PK was just was more obnoxious because no only did she have the fast attack, she had another attack that did chip damage in a meta where fights took 30 seconds because you sat there looking at each other and parrying. If all she had was her 7 frame, she would have been completely shit on by Law/Conq in all circumstances>the rest>um actually it was RPS please believeFuck off. Grabs were memes.
>>542259098Reactive barrier usually gives me like 3-4k barrier every game when I buy it early, it's crazy high value.
>>542258240>>542258292God damnit I hate this fucking itemI was already getting it became it made my money go up on some characters but now I don't see a reason to not grab it on characters like Drifter too
>>542258815>I have no idea how gooks play that shittencent pays good money to make sure they do
>>542251112Uhh yt boi?
All NAfags are good for is funding gachaslop.
>>542259202fuck off, you're wrong>explains the RPS involving GB>but GB didn't existwhat the fuck are you saying>Fast zone attacks were meta because they beat light/feint spamfast zones were meta because at that point in the game the average light was 400-600ms and were super high risk to use preemptively. feinting was retarded because you'd eat a zone attackwhy do you think people would feint at all in the first place? you cancel an attack to bait a parry attempt then parry their heavy, but that was completely fake past super low level gameplay because of reasons listed, that you even pointed out. you defender could just cancel their heavy attempt on reaction to seeing a parry didn't go throughzerk was dogshit and unplayable until his fast cancel buff and had literally no presence in tournaments until they buffed his feints to have a fast cancel property that made his lights after feint to be 200ms. before that they were the default 400ms that the majority of the cast had. 400ms was generally considered to be unusable parry bait>>no, PK was meta because... fast attackyes, that is what you said. but then you said she was good because of the bleed punish, which is flat out wrong. she was good because raw frame data. you realize they added the bleed cancel post launch right? the game was totally different before they buffed everyone to a standardized 300ms light speed and added all the cancel optionsthe RPS included GB and it had a place, but the whole system broke because zone attacks trumped everythingI'm pretty sure you and I are talking about different states of the game
>>542260190>meme games that only NA tards playlmao
holy shit shut the fuck up about for honor
>>542251112NA just won the biggest valorant tournament of the year 3-2 against FNATICfucking F N Cand asia came in third place with korea
>get raised to a higher rank so think maybe I should turn chat and vc on>immediately flamedAnd back off it goes. There's no comms that can't be communicated by pings and in-game voicelines
WTF Calico is actually very fun
>>542260509I hate coms too. Toxic gay and unhelpful.
