HOMM Necromancer Edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png >Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATe https://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>542251106>Thread QuestionFavorite crpg for a necromancer or minions based class?
Hehehehehe elf cleric with a monk dip.
>>542410967>You accidentally click "tell me more about yourself" in an Owlcat game
There should be stuff like this in RT (this is from a mod)
>>542411460Thats just stormbringer.
Argenta hates heretics, chaos and protection
BLARGH
>>542410967I don't like you. Die.
What does the next female xeno romance need to do to out-humiliate yrliet?
>you see a flash of flame red hairI dunno whether Owlcat are blind but Yrilet is ginger.
>>542411437Owlcat games have taught me to stop doing that, and to stop asking NPCs for more information whatsoever.In almost every case it leads to paragraphs of worthless text that only barely worldbuild and definitely never sound like how normal people talk.
>>542392296>pathfinder crpgs are dead because owlkek doesn't have the rights anymorepretty sure pozzo were begging them to make another one. they chose to move on. a mistake desu.
>wendu can't handle the gold chadgonRedemption my ass, bitch literally can't handle my light. Going to end her along with her sugar daddy this run. Good thing I played along with her retardation so I could get them both in one fell swoop.
>>542413606Once that expense game flops and the money dries up owlcat will be crawling back to pathfinder
>>542411460What mod? I've been wanting more weapon variety.
>>542412943Let's see what they do with Liara in the next ME game
>>542414072>next mass effectBioware is probably getting shut down before its going to be finished.
>>542414027https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kroguetrader/mods/180
>>542414225This would probably be for the best. Even after Veilguard, I think there's a higher likelihood that they won't recover to how they were before.
Andromeda was shit, I can't imagine what they would do after that
shucks, I really don't want to decapitate Lann and play with his innards. unfortunately I'm doing a good run. nothing can be done I guess
cuteCUTE
I don't mind AI sloppa portraits, but why is Nexus filled with shit ones? Why do people spam upload a ton of dogshit portraits? You can have decent looking sloppa, like the stuff anons posted
The dog pet in RT starts off strong but the scaling seems to fall off a cliff. Relying on your pet running across the map to deal 100 damage is a bad joke.
Shieet Domin
>>542418505Because the people that upload AI shit to the nexus aren't doing it because they've curated an exciting or interesting portrait pack for fellow crpg enthusiasts.They do it so they can say they made a mod. Or they do it as some kind of activism to generate anti-AI impressions.
>>542418706honestly, black Kibbels looks even better than OG design
I want to go back to no ai sloppa ages please stop posting garbage
>>542418505>stuff anons postedyou mean yourself. file.png.
I decided to return to Veilguard and play it again, since I haven’t found any new RPGs. Now I can’t decide which class, faction, and specialization to choose for my Rook for second time lol. Which one does he fit the most visually?
>>542418505They have no artistic skill of any kind, but they incorrectly believe they're master proompters because they type words in and get pictures out.
>>542421435Why are you doing this to yourself.
Veilguard is anti-fun
>>542421435>second time scary. what did you do for your first run
>>542412943She'll actually ask your advice about another elf guy, but she still won't let you date a normal woman.
>>542410045Because that's its resolution. The only alternative is to use one of the AI stable diffusion trash options or fanart that gets something wrong>left looks like an old hag>right doesnt have iconic cheekbones or the arrow quiver, doesnt even look like an adventurer
>>542422440Try waifu2x to upscale your original and see if it looks better.https://unlimited.waifu2x.net/
This came out, it actually seems like a step down from their previous game. So sick of the roguelike memehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2530490/Lost_Eidolons_Veil_of_the_Witch/
>>542411437But anon don't you want Cam to tell you about how much she loves murder and sex?
>>542422638link looks like a pornsite, I'm not typing that in my search engine. I like the original portraits the way they are anyway
>>542411437That's just how Russians talk. Remember when Tucker Carlson interviewed Putin?
>>542421435Speaking of Veilguard, I heard there are only three decisions from the previous games that come into play in it. What decisions are they?
>>542423405i dont watch ecelebs but thats pretty typical of dictators and politicians to give long winded off topic bullshit answers
>>542422440You're never going to upscale that low res image properly because you're mind is filling in the missing blanks to make it into something that might not exist.You'd have to be an artist yourself to either redraw it or at least have a proficient hand at AI upscaling it.Whenever I've looked at any of your screenshots I've had difficulty even telling if the character were male or female based on only the portrait, you're likely projecting your own constructed OC persona onto it. There's nothing wrong with that though, but I think it may be difficult to get it properly upscaled to your satisfaction is all.
>>542425276meant "your mind"
What the fuck was Larian smoking when they incorporated Radiant Retort in the lategame enemies? It's not even a DnD mechanic, it's just Larian's own retarded way of balancing the game. Like I understand the intent behind it, but it just makes playing Paladin and Cleric invalid now because now you can't even do the ONE THING that they are are meant to do. I don't mind if bosses like Viconia and Raphael have this super speshul power but generic lowlevel cambions and generic undeads having it just doesn't make sense. Imagine hitting a fire elemental with ice and having that damage reflected back on you instead. That's how stupid it sounds. Shit game design.
>>542425276>filling in the missing blanks to make it into something that might not existNext you're going to tell me that a painting of a naked woman doesn't actually have three dimensional boobies that can be squeezed in the literal sense.
>>542423465Only from Inquisition and all three are irrelevant. Who you romanced (has no bearing on the story unless you romanced Solas, otherwise you just get a single letter), If you kept the Inquisition (irrelevant again), and whether you vowed to stop or save Solas (also irrelevant). Everything and everyone from DA2 and DAO were essentially soft rebooted. Morrigan and Isabella behave like skinwalkers where it feels some some generic NPCs took over their appearance just to spout exposition and act out of character.
>>542426680Just Larian being anti fun as usual. Like you said House of Hope is the ONE place where your Paladin should be nuking shit left and right because it's their literal fucking job but they can't because they get punished hard for it. The funniest thing is by the time you do those fights you're likely level 11 at least and guess what, Paladins get auto radiant damage added to all their attacks with no way to toggle it off. For all the dicksucking Larian gets their encounter and "difficulty" philosophy haven't changed and it's always been a low point in their games.
>playing Paladin in BG3It really isn't a paladin game.
>>542413783Areelu should have been a romance
>>542427608Reminder that Swen tried to sneak in 3.5 paladins and WOTC threw a fitProbably one of the many things that soured him from working with them anymore
>>542413024her hair color reminds me of beets
>>542428476
Dont worry 6e will be the perfect mix of 5e and 3.5e and save dnd. And owlcat will make a 6e game with a bg3 tier budget.
>>542413024Yeah and she's forever brushing a lock of flame-red hair off her forehead References to physical characteristics are a crutch for bad writers
>>542429145Bitch I wouldn't talk about "judgement" given your track record of extremely poor judgement
>>542429475>References to physical characteristics are a crutch for bad writersIdk man lord of the rings does that alot and its pretty good.
Maybe the wheel of time has broken my brain but I dont think owlcat over describes their characters physical characteristics.
Yrliet is possibly the worst "romance" I've ever seen in a CRPG. It's honestly baffling how she has fans. I guess the lust for elves wins over her fucking horrible personality and hypocrisy.
>>542429994For me, I like the horrible personality and would prefer if she wasn't an elf, instead just a voidborn human
>>542429840Kingmaker does. Valerie is infamously described as some 10/10 beauty and has a bunch of characters lusting after her despite how ugly her portrait looks. A few also talk about her body which I guess reflects her 19 CON.
>>542430095Kibbles is right there
>>542430421Kibbles has a lovely personality
Argenta's breasts sloshed as she approached the Rogue Trader.
>>542430681you need a woman to demean you?
>>542431805Sloshed milkily
I've decided my text adventure crpg will be hybrid text + basic ui and minor graphics. For instance positions in a room, mini-map, display of small images like "look at urn" will show a small picture of an urn (maybe, possibly not. If I do this, it'll be AIslop until I get around to making it myself or hiring, both which are unlikely soon. But I like the idea of "> look painting" and actually seeing a little painting image in one of the side panels. I'm not "dogmatic" about the text adventure, though I want it to be mostly text.) As well as the Output/Input there will be some side panels for minor graphical convenience. World/region/area/local or something like that. And as far as the issue of "occupying the entire room" I think predefining certain spots works well enough. I think having this minimal "room with predefined positions" is a good compromise between definition and "theater of the mind". And like some anon suggested, allowing an implicit movement between sub-room spaces makes sense. >not CRPGhope it will be someday though, but carry on with masturbating to your dollies, sorry for interrupting.Next fun philosophical part is thinking about how to handle dialogue, and if I can do it better than just traversing the tree over and over, greying out the exhausted ones. One idea is when you revisit talking, getting a synopsis of what you talked about before, instead of repeating the conversation which is insanity really.
>>542432506>when you revisit talking, getting a synopsis of what you talked aboutThis would be really good for immersion. Don't think I've seen that done
>>542432506Also trying to decide on the actual UI tool, as well as a file format for rooms that makes it really easy to iterate on. Probably going with Textual, but pygame and godot are still open possibilties
>>542432506>getting a synopsis of what you talked about beforeI think this should be handled by some kind of journal system, otherwise let players rely on their memory like the games of old.
>>542433231Godot has a big community so you should be able to get answers whenever you need them
>>542429994>lust for elves pretty much. If she were a human like Jae maybe her fags would abandon her.
>>542433332It's the sunk cost fallacy. You put a lot of effort into her so it's hard to dump her. Same reason guys keep dating girls who have borderline
Yrliet stole my bike
Yrliet stole my weed and shared it with Marazhai
>>542433313I don't think I need answers to what a lot of Godot users are asking about though, which makes Godot feel like overkill.I want to move to C eventually, C/SDL. I don't want to struggle with an engine that does more than I need. This was initially a project to learn C in fact, and to shape up my rusty math/stats shit. I have a mild prototype in C but when I got to function pointers I needed to realize what I want as a prototype before I continued. >>542433273Well, I disagree in part. I like the notion of a system where we talked to someone previously and get a synopsis, instead of treading through the dialogue tree repeatedly like a maniac.I do also like the notion of a journaling system though and of course I want that.
>>542434148something like this, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure I want to organize dialogue in the standard poset manner. I'm still thinking about this.
While I'm shitting up the place, make an image of some kind about a city or location and I'll work it in to this text/hybrid CRPG that I'll never finish, if you're bored.Lore also welcome.
>>542434376Well its for you to chew on and come to a conclusion to.I think its not a big deal either way, players typically only care about important NPCs being dynamic and reactive.You mentioned dialogue trees, so I'm assuming you're not doing a keyword system. Is your purpose to log or to keep things fresh? For some reason I keep thinking back to Morrowind, where there were key-words on a side panel, which is why I thought of a journal type thing.
>>542427608So which CRPGs can you Deus Vult? RP wise, BG3 did at least do a good job of adding unique pally dialogues compared to other classes. Gameplay mechanics-wise, it's pretty underwhelming. There aren't that many undead or fiend enemies in the early game and by the lategame, Radiant Retort cucks you from the moment when it would have been your time to shine.
>>542434376What about two sets of dialogue >Tell me about your background >Oh well I come from a desert planet BLAH BLAH BLAH WORDS WORDS WORDS and that's how I ended up hiding in that shipping container in your cargo hold >Tell me about your background again >Like I said, I'm from a desert planet and stowed away on your ship
>>542435076Probably only obscure ones.Lionheart is literally set in that era, but I think most find that game really dry and its been a while since I played it.Siege of Avalon might somewhat scratch the itch of being a knight, assuming that's what you mean by that phrase.Is Kingdom Come a crpg? I know you can only play as Henry but you can sorta play him different ways.I think roleplaying in Crusader Kings may be the only real option for going full templar.
>>542432506>>542434148Anon this is pretty cool for a gamedev/programming project. I thought about doing something like this, but with adapting my DnD campaign to a video game format.
Do act 1 shop items disappear if you dont buy them in act 1?
>>542434785>players typically only care about important NPCs being dynamic and reactive.But it's always nice to have others react right? Like you can't do wrong with having the innkeeper randomly respond to some shit you did, even if 90% of players don't see it. >>542435371Still a poset model but yes definitely enjoy that, and easy to implement.I'm not sure if there is a reasonable conversational model besides the "dialogue tree" but if there's anywhere to explore alternatives it's text.
>>542436038>But it's always nice to have others react right?I think so, yeah. Don't let me dissuade you from it if you've got the itch to add this reactivity and intend to make it happen.
I cast Rape, Mass on this general.
>>542436313The anons in here have immunity to sex, so you've just wasted a spell slot.
>>542434753>Lore also welcomeJack and the Beanstalk. Screenshot this.
>>542434753Joeyville, it's chatgpt if that's okay
>>542434753Lore? Is it fantasy or scifi?
>>542438184This dude can’t even draw squares without asking the robot to do it for him
>>542438660>>542438184While I don't really want to pile onto him, there are actually a lot of nice little random generators out there that'll produce better rpg map results than AI.>for instancewatabou.itch.io/medieval-fantasy-city-generator
>>542438568Haven't even gotten there yet, hit me with your ideas.>>542437746Love it. The 'above-clouds' are retarded giants holding humans in an antfarm.The retarded giants have in-fighting. The humants have in-fighting too, some working with the retard giants.MC call to arms when his gf is fucked to death by a bull the retard giant sets on her. He's yelling at his mom, not even interested, while it happens.
>>542438964Sci-fi of the old fashioned sort like Barsoom
>>542438184Rather hand-drawn but JOIville, you got it babe
nta haven't heard of Barsoom, looks like an old sci-fi thing? Surprised I haven't heard of it
>>542430421>KibblesToo easy. I like a woman who's difficult.
>>542438660I can I just did something easy
>>542439398Its just another word for Mars from the John Carter books
>>542438964City of Gears, but some chaos is seeping in, gumming up the works. Think Planescape's plane of law with all the modrons meets Ferngully's smog demon except he's a black ooze that can break off into smaller pieces to spread lethargic chaos.
Thinking about +, - of stealthing and awareness'ing. Also the terminology. Open to suggestion including kys and not a crpg.
>>542439398>early 20th century sci-fi space opera by Edgar Rice Burroughs who also wrote Tarzan>regular guy gets transported to Mars through some ancient alien machinery>Barsoom is what the locals call Mars>has thrilling adventures with exotic aliens and and has a beautiful (human) waifu princess named Dejah ThorisStarted that whole "sword and planet" sub-genre
So many anons are illiterate. Imagine, the only thing they've actually read is Owlcat's fanfiction tier writing.
>>542439943>>542439987Neat
>>542439987NTA but I like Frank Frazetta and honestly it was through AI lolNever would have heard of him before
>>542440142I hate owlcat’s novel gazing
>>542440142They only read the romance dialogue poorly
>>542440389"Frank Frazetta style" was an effective AI prompt for a while
Who's the best faction for the deadfire? I am leaning towards the RTC but only the Vallians have the muscle animancy wise to fix the wheel.
>>542441068VTC is pretty good but exclusively if you don’t let Maia do her companion quest
>>542441068By RTC I meant RDC of course.>>542441305Oh that ship sailed like 60 hours ago rip, I liked maia being no nonsense but still having some wit, they did pallegina really bad in this game.
>>542440795Frazetta got me into Sword and Sorcery stuff. Shame the genre pretty much died.
https://vocaroo.com/1lmliPhHSCgH
Baphomet literally did nothing wrong.When you're born into a society where only the powerful can ever have power, the """cult""" of Baphomet provides a voice to the voiceless and powerless.
>>542444253Have you ever thought that people are born in the position that they are for a reason?
All the stuff south of market square sucks fucking alchemist guy, mimics, succubus, gwerm house full of babau
A Idira romance makes sense, a Argenta romance doesnt.
Connect with your local Baphomet recruiter today to begin on your journey of self-discovery and connect with other souls with similar instincts and desires
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Lr9wVU2m0No.
Im tired of everything ripping of tolkien and/or moorecock for a fantasy setting. What's the modern day lord of the rings? Just start copying that.
>>542445385Argenta seems like she would have periodic meltdowns. Can't explain it but she seems emotionally fragile. Idira seems more stable overall in spite of the warp peril issue.
>>542446318>What's the modern day lord of the rings?Dark Tower
>>542446318>What's the modern day lord of the rings?Your own actual life.
>>542446318>What's the modern day lord of the rings?Going off sales the wheel of time, game of thrones or harry potter. Take your pick.
Bloodlines fucking SUCKS!
>>542446318>What's the modern day lord of the rings?Stop you right there babehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Wbs7-hjZQ
Reading about Pathfinder lore and I'm surprised there aren't any Lamashtu orgies. I think her cult even shows up in Kingmaker
>>542418505I used to get my portraits from Pinterest and holy shit that place is flooded with AI of all the exact same artstyle now
Post alignment musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4Bkr_hsfEI
>>542441068PiratesJust kill furrante and aldeys
>>542446318ASOIF
>>542450582based retard demon:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmenTtGe_6Ibased angel of heaven:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgI8xWUau00
when is underrail infusion coming out?
>>542450582https://youtu.be/lKY73OdWPSs?si=3Mo__KHZdUO4VHASchaotic neutral or evil
>>542413024something something soulless gingers
>>542450582https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSRgqJ1vQhUClGkIQVCBM6ua1Ep7Zo79_&si=uY-6-VGAC3TIIApj
I saw a sign in the skySeven horns, seven horns, seven horns
>>542446318Any modern day Lord of the Rings is likely copying or responding to Lord of the Rings.You'd probably need to start looking at some of the less popular ones like Scott Bakker's Prince of Nothing series of Gene Wolf and accept some sci-fi elements.Drawing from non-european origins may also be a good idea, like the Arabian Nights/Voyages of Sinbad or maybe some asian nonsense.>>542446524Stephen King is a hack that churns novels out pajeet style until they stick. Not a bad money making scheme but nothing he writes has true soul except on accident.>>542446672WoT is pretty generic and not very distinguishable from standard D&D settings, Game of Thrones is by GRRM's own words just Lord of the Rings but with a focus on Aragorn's tax policy, but Harry Potter may sortof work as its own thing except its demographic is 10-15 year olds.
>>542446524Gunslinger is the only one of those with soul.However Blaine the Monorail was a good antagonist in the third book.
>>542451972>Drawing from non-european origins may also be a good idealiterally impossible you will be cancelled by both sides of the political spectrum for being too woke/orientalistic unless it's one of the kosher non european setting like japaslop
>>542446318>modern day lord of the ringsthat's lord of the rings still... right?
>>542451062I actually do like ASOIAF, and think there's a lot of potential in a morally ambiguous low fantasy setting with an autistically huge amount of documented recountings of history. George seems to want a hand in everything involving his world though, I don't know how open he'd be to contributing to a CRPG's writing
>>542450582Aeonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddbxFi3-UO4
>>542452595>George seems to want a hand in everything involving his world though, I don't know how open he'd be to contributing to a CRPG's writingfatfuck doesn't care as long as he gets royalties he literally made rollslop with la creativedad just a few years agohe wouldn't mind as long as he gets the shekels and publicity
>>542450890this just steal the pirate faction ship and kill everyone else
>>542450582Devil path (though wotr shits the bed here, stupid big devil "ahoy baby")https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUNFgN-Lh6c
Also, anyone worried about your future, just go ahead and ask. It's as easy as that.
>>542453940No, I will not succumb to devils or demons.Fuck. Off.
I think I'll play QFG4 before Shadowrun, it's a good season for it.
>>542450582Chaotic Neutral Alliance with lantern kinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyAePPnr2yo
>>542455174Beautiful>>542450582https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdsPd2i09X0the anime shit video is gone weirdlyTrue NeutralLantern King did nothing wrong
Walking late at night holding hands with my beautiful wife Minaghohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qx2lMaMsl8
>>542453349>he literally made rollslop with la creativedad just a few years agoWell yeah that's not Westeros
>>542450582True evilhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkCGUa4lO6U
>>542451972>very distinguishable from standard D&D settingsIs there a dnd setting that deals with the concept of metaphysics and reincarnation/what makes a soul as much as wheel of time?
>>542458387Pillars?
demon slop, Minagho gfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5NX1FC-7-w
>>542458387Pillars but your just some literally who who pretty much works out a cosmic pile up error not something insane like the second reincarnation of lucifer reborn to beat the evil half of god.
Pillars 3 should just be you making one supreme admin god that sorts out all the errors.
>>542459121Either that or aliens
>>542458387Planescape though not exactly the same way, a lot of the mechanics of the outer planes and "afterlife" deal with what a soul does and the new forms it can take, or whether it just gets used as a resource to be consumed by a deity or the planar landscape itself.But I technically said WoT is generic because everything about the world and journey is just your standard fantasy world, even the feeling of the various monsters that attack the village in the beginning, that you have some soul stuff tacked on top is just a bit of dressing.The most unique thing it has going for it is that its set in some post-post apocalyptic future.
>>542458661>you will never betray humanity with Minagho and have fun at partieswhy live
>>542457442>Eyes
>>542459121technically even if there were no god/gods pillars universe would function very well on it's ownremember the whole reincarnation thing was working perfectly before the engwithans fucked it up for everyone forever
>>542460752they retconned that, the wheel was flawed and hollowborne/soul related maladies were common as fuck pre-wheel and berath
>>542460703I know, that's how she tricks you
>>542460894did they retcon the hollow born crisis thing from being specific to dyrwood to everywhere else ?
Going to the store at night, buying the funniest big pumpkin with my sweet wife Minagho
>>542461414not exactly, both woedica and eothas say the mechanism before the wheel was built had flaws.I can assume that pre-apotheosis the entire world of eora suffered with soul stuff.
>>542459230>some soul stuff tacked on top is just a bit of dressing.The soul and fate stuff was the main point of the wheel of time. Why do you think lews therin talked to rand every time it cut back to his pov and the final battle was ran vs lews therin and not ran vs the dark one. All three protagonist are Ta'veren, and Ta'verens whole thing is how their souls are special and can twist fate.
Deadfire and avowed flopped pillars 3 is not happening
Deadfire made/makes profit, Avoid was shit and pushed from abovePillars 3 is on the way
High-high executives need to step in and say "Hey you shit MBA retard middle management idiots, you need to stop giving any kind of creative input because you are absolute shit and you're a drain you stupid pieces of shit, step back"
>>542464705The interview with Brian Fargo a couple months ago was really good.Here it is if anyone's bored:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjeRn2eA3y4
Mythic Voracious Arch-Executive Marauder needs to step in and tell them who's the boss of this industry.
>>542463635Sawyer confirmed like 3 times deadfire made money on the long run.
>>542465537how nice of them to be in the black after capping the profit sharing at 50% roi years back
>>542465537Beyond that, it's a good game, despite what a couple dummies here go on about. Yeah there's problems but show me a game that doesn't have them. (some stupid issues from above)Pillars 3 iterates on the whole trajectory of 1&2, it will impress CRPG players and folks who have only come into the genre from BG3 as well.
>>542466043they gotta tighten up the story and not allow romance in
>>542465920-50%, anonI still remember the copeposting from kidninity-kun
>>542466095Romance, mentor/mentee, 'frenemy', betrayal, all of these are on even grounds
Sawyer ruined my life by personally creating avowed
Deadfire came out in 2018, its been 7 years since Obsidian has made a good game.
>>542466215Take out all of them. We don't need any of that fanfic-tier shit. People play games to fight dragons and kill shit.
>>542466991Tyranny?
Sawyer took a shit in my air conditioning duct. It took me ages to trace the stink back to the source.
>>542467591Half finshed but fun game.
Sawyer has one e in itYrliet has one e in itSawyer = Yrliet
I still don't remember what happened in Pillars 1 especially towards the end. I remember the evil king, which was legitimately great, and your wife's spirit but I couldn't tell you what the main villain's motivation was or even a quote from him
>>542468196SawyersawYERYRliEtIt's no accident
>>542468564One of the deities threw a fit and decided to do something about it. Upset the status quo in the wheel which caused babies being born without souls. The actual final boss wasn't the deity itself but a servant of it, forgot his name but he comes from ancient times.
What are your guys guesses on Pillars 3 setting?
>>542468564The only memorable part about the whole of pillars is the recent pre-history on readceras. Everything else is meh in comparison. The story is reddit tier, and the mechanics are in balance mode (autistic levels) thanks to sawyer.
>>542469108the trash bin
>>542469209>the mechanics are in balance mode (autistic levels)Are you able to actualize those thoughts? Give it a try. What has you so angry about it? Name the pitfalls of the system very specifically since you have such a strong opinion, and, bonus challenge: What does it do well?
>>542446318>moorecockno one does this. this statement is always just a person telling on themselves.
>>542469381Hhold on I have to read the 'dex to figure out what my opinion is
>>542469403Game of thrones does, targaryens are literally just human melnibonians.
I'm not normally a RTWP guy but actually it worked really well in Pillars and Deadfire, I have to admitStill not my favorite but the slow down worked well and Deadfire was much better about encounters in general
Sawyer said they are going to make pillars 3 more like bg3, the next game will be turn-based
>>542423108waifu2x is an image upscaler that has been around for 10 years, mostly used for Anime images, but nowadays you can also use it to upscale photos. If you're too much of a zoomer to use the internet, give me your original portrait and I see what I can do. Maybe I can enhance the resolution without the image looking much different.
>>542468564Thaos the main human bad guy was trying t force feed woedica, goddess and Queen-in-Exile of the pantheon so she could truly be strong and rule the cuntsHe was part of the engithwan conspiracy to create the gods and pledged himself to woedica, thus he got to reincarnate with his memories forever.
>>542470910The world would be a better place if once you read a headline your browser would be locked until you read the whole article
>rolled bad initiative>have to stand here doing idle animation squats until it's my turn to post
>>542469108Now that the living lands are out, the best place is Rekke's land beyond the storms or one of the empire's capitals be it vallia or aedyr.or raedceras so we can have an entire game with thick southern accents
>>542470196that's part of "telling on yourself">getting big boss baby vibes here
>>542471103>foreverReally forever? What does that say about me killing him?
>>542469381We talked about this a few threads back but sawyer thinks of everything as an abstract spreadsheet of numbers and to hell with the roleplaying.Therefore in pillars, barbarians benefit from having high INT.Wizards and cleric benefit from having high MIGHT.Basically we want buff wizards and clerics and smart barbarians in our world.So explain to me why does a cleric need to be buff to heal better? Why a wizard needs to be buff to do more damage with his spells?You zoomers played bg3 and now want more crpgs but your youtube shorts addled minds probably can't stomach the older graphics or UI so you have to vehemently justify why a single player party based rpg must have MOBA level balance that sucks the life out of it.
>>542471615depends on what ending you picked, if you let him go to the wheel BUT reset his memory I believe woedica can just redownload that data and shove it in.destroying his soul nihilus style or locking him with iovara then yeah, he's dead dead or ULTRA DEAD
>>542471471George rr Martin has openly stated that moorecock is one of his biggest inspirations.
>>542467304so take out the story?
Why do rpg writers even need to be inspired by anything? Just do your own thing.
>>542471927>sawyer thinks of everything as an abstract spreadsheet of numbers and to hell with the roleplaying.He is not the sole person responsible for the games, I hope this is clear to you but from the way you talk I wonderAlso you can't just claim that without backup, though you continue with "Therefore">barbarians benefit from having high INT.>Wizards and cleric benefit from having high MIGHT.Sure, but most classes also benefit from high INT or MIGHT as well, or really any high stats. It's just the nature of the system. I really don't see a problem here, but you're framing this as a problem. You'll have to explain why this is so terrible, because it seems like a general improvement over making every fighter/cleric/whoever almost exactly the same, over and over.>So explain to me why does a cleric need to be buff to heal better?Well, how strong you heal (or do damage or whatever) is a function of Might. Did that answer your question?>Why a wizard needs to be buff to do more damage with his spells?See above. INT controlling area of effect and might controlling 'impactfulness' or something.I don't understand how this is confusing or troubling to you.>You zoomersNow you're just going off the hook, I'm 40.>more schizo nonsensek
Elf should be a class not a race. If you have lived for 200 years you would definitely have mastered both combat and magic.
>>542471927cringe>>542472403based
>INT makes the barbarian more athletic and helps him swing his arms further because it just does, okay?
cleverness, letting your AoE's hit more.Just give up my retard, take the "L".
damn i really almost died to some big spiders jumping me.
>you can't criticize Yrliet's sexless romance chudcel sje is alien that's how it is supposed to work for her>Eldar have normal sex lives similar to humans in books?>Hah ignore that and just look at the game on it's own CHECKMATE CHUDDYCEL THE DEVS DON'T K OW THR LORE, THIS IS AN OWN CHECKMATE
>>542472130yeah and it's also all you've read, if you've even read it.
>>542473341>Eldar have normal sex lives similar to humans in booksnot in codicesOnly in fanfic BL slop novels (doesn't count)
>>542473295Are you the high af bro or a different anon. How are you liking Solasta anyway?
>>542473341>>542473580I just got done with the first meditation bit and it seems Yrliet not only doesn't care about you banging other chicks, she's fully aware of why one would want to bang their own kind. It's just (You) she doesn't want to fuck. Also a side note but making her shadow memory kiss yours doesn't break the romance but making them hold hands does so lol?
When HP Lovecraft inspired crpg?>Exploring forgotten cyclopean ruins>delving into the secrets on unspeakable cults>encounters with the unknowable and the obscene>venturing in the dream-world of unknown kadath>avoiding niggers
>>542473725the best lovercraftian rpg has already lived and died. it won't be topped which makes it a shame it's dead.
>best lovecraftian crpgI think you meant QFG4
>>542473858why did you make me relive this pain
I want to play as a wizard that wears full plate armor and yet many crpgs deny me this
>>542473719>spoilerYeah lol I was surprised too. I guess squeezing her ghost's ass is so absurd that she doesn't take it seriously, but holding its hand is something that conceivably might happen and so it leaves her disoriented>Yrliet not only doesn't care about you banging other chicks, she's fully aware of why one would want to bang their own kind.Yeah at that stage she's fine with it. She only develops "feelings" for you when she sees how clearly you remember her, >your mind is so much cleaner than I imagined...>to become part of someone....like she didn't expect there to be room for her in your mind too.Also everything she says in that segment can have a double meaning or foreshadowing. Eg here when she's reflecting on Kibellah, but it also applies to you and her. Then the one about "once betrayed it's hard to trust again"
>>542474195I carry a torch for this. I will never forgive funcom.
>>542474240eldritch knight exists THO
>>542473725That's what strange aeons pathfinder campaign would've been if they didn't skip it for 40k
Honestly pillars had the right idea, physical strength and magical strength should be the same thing. That way there is no more scrawny nerd magicians. If you want to be a big dick alpha male caster you have to be buff to cast HUGE spells.
Solasta is one of the top 5 games I've ever played.
Solasta is one of the 5 games I've ever played.
>>542475116you can be a buff alpha male caster in 3.5e and pathfinder and it makes more sense there from a roleplaying perspective. Since you still need strength to hit hard and your rely on your int to get spells that allow you you to improve you physical prowess.I've done such builds a lot in pathfinder wrath of the righteous.Sawyer always ruined games with his balance obsession, they stopped him from doing it in new vegas so he went and made his own balance mod to suck the fun out of the game.
>>542475708I felt like it was more true to 5e than bg3, for someone that actually read the full players manual and dungeon masters guide back when they first released and dmed for some friends, it felt very familiar straight away.
>"Elantach how could you! The whole ship heard, I've never been so embarrassed", wailed Yrliet, brushing a lock of fiery-red hair away from her forehead.>"She's not even a real princess!"First of all, that's not true, the whole ship didn't hear. Transfer bay 18B doesn't have a working vox system.Second of all, if you cared that much you should have said something that time in my office when we saw Jae's ghost. Silence is compliance as they say.
Solasta is one of 5 games I've never played.
nah they should've let you dick the elfin the ass
>>542477649They do
Is Josh sawyer the lebron james of crpg writing?
>>542479121what does it mean to be the lebron james of something?
>>542479750the greatest of all time at something
>>542479889
>>542477970Im not a faggot I wanted the elf without a dick
>>542477970Marazhai is too easy, he's no fun. I want the elf who plays hard to get.
>>542477649Eldars have two assholes, one for pooping crystals, the other for mon-keigh sex
>>542476267>since you still need strength to hit hardBut you don't need strength to deal hellfire ray damage.I do wonder if Bloodrager should've been strength rather than con for spellcasting stat.More importantly, Student of War FOUCKING SUCKS!
How is the geneforge series?
>>542483032I would understand this for certain clerics, if say, a cleric worships a deity that's all about physical fitness so the deity actually bestows more of his power to his more /fit/ followers, then maybe that archetype can have better divine power tied to str or con or whatever.But having it general for all clerics is weird desu.And 3e and pf already does this too, where you have some archetypes go out of the standards of their class for whatever lore reasons. But they always male some sort of in-world excuse for it.Sawyer's issue is he straight up doesn't care. Being a taller character with longer arms so you're able to swing wider makes sense, having more str so you can more easily swing heavier weapons makes sense, but INT being the defining stat to swing your club better just bcuz:tm: is retarded.Muscle wizards in 3e and pf make sense and are good, muscle wizards in poe make absolutely no sense and they never even tried to explain it in any way. The stat names are indicative of nothing, they're just the names of the columns and rows in sawyer's spreadsheet.Go play moba if you only care about numbers and don't lie to us and call it an rpg.
I don't have a stake in this either way, the only stats that matter to me are Attack, Defense, Spellpower, Knowledge, Morale and Luck.
the only stat I maxxed out is contrarianism
me>STR: 12>DEX: 9>CON: 9>INT: 15>WIS: 10>CHA: 3post your irl stats, be honest.
>>5424837977
Class fantasy isn't about what kind of numbers are in your character collumn, that's an indication of the capabilities of your CHARACTER as a person. Class fantasy is about what outfit you wear and what weapon you use. If I can have an RPG where a Paladin wears full plate mail and this is superior to him being naked, that's already a big improvement over pathfinder pajama tanking.mhxvx
>>542483837is that your beauty stat?
>>542481892Eldar have 2 penises, both for breeding mon-keigh women
>>542483995All stats, I am a balanced individual.
Do we have actual femcels in these threads btw? Or are these some tranny fantasies?
>>542484070That would be good in SPECIAL I guess since the the normal max there is 10. But would be horrible for dnd.
>>542484101Me, but you wouldn't believe me anyway and I won't post tits to prove it.
I want a Larry face reveal
>>542484254Okay post your favourite male romances please. Don't meet many women so would be interesting to see what you go for.
>>542484030That's the males. The females only have one penis.
>>542484205It'd be for dnd. What's the best crpg with less to no focus on companions?
>roleplaying game>can't roleplay as a hoofshine boy to shine nocticula's hooves
>>542484101There is no such thing as women who like CRPGs that require you to do any math.
>>542484462Underrail.>but anon I meant a fantasy oneYou can do nothing but swords and shields if you want. You can also do sort of magic.
>>542484462>lessThe first too fallout games had little focus on companions, not a lot of interactions with them and you don't manually build them, and you can play without then.Same thing for neverwinter nights 1, companions there are meh and there isn't a lot of input for them storywise.Atleast when compared to baldur's gate games, poe, pathfinder games, etc.>noThe icewind dale games and solasta have no companions at all, you build the whole party yourself.The same goes for knights of the chalice.If you consider vampire the masquerade bloodlines to be a crpg then it's a solo game.There are probably others I'm missing out.
>>542484321uhm...From all the RPGs I've played until now, only Alistair and Garrus come to mind, but I've never got to ME3 because of Origins.I liked Darean quite a lot, although haven't romanced him with a female KC and kind of stumbled into the whole thing.Sosiel was cringe but amusing.Haven't fully romanced Lann yet, I'm currently on a Lich playthrough (no Lann there).So, I'd say Alistar, Garrus and Daeran.
>>542484823>alistairbased, he was a good bro.>sosielanon i...>lannI romanced him with my femKC, not a girl though and I just went with him 'cause I stumbled on his romance unintentionally.
>>542484101Me but I'm only here because of Jimmy and Marzipan and you'll ask to post tits anyway.
>>542484980Same question I asked the other girl.Even if you two are lying it's still interesting insight.Post your favourite male romances.>>542484823>sosielyou have the wrong plumbing, if you know what I mean.
>>542484321>>542484823Oh, I just remembered Valen Shadowbreath from HotU! I liked him a lot, too. >>542485078>SosielI didn't romance him, my KC romanced him, duh. I don't self-insert
>>542484724thanks I will try some of those after my nap
>>542470970Fine, whatever, personally I don't think it makes that much of a difference since it went from 303x397 to 330x432.
>>542485352>pic
>>542484823>LannIsn't he widely considered an incel though?>>542484980>not necessarily terrible taste in men, but taste in terrible menOkay I believe you
>>542485078I already said so, Jimmy and Marzipan. I'm usually a fa/tg/irl but there was a WH40k game, I bought it, got hooked. I have no interest in playing other video games aside from 40k shit. I'm excited about the Dark Heresy one and I hope the elf is romanceable. >>542485692Accurate you should see my dating life
>>542485830You should play Dawn of War 1/2
>>542484101>>542484321Yeah.Tristian, Alistair, Heinrix, Sebastian, Cullen
>>542485692>Isn't he widely considered an incel though?Well, there's Wenduag, sooo...
Question for the femanons how would you feel about male Yrliet? And do you hope the incels get a female Eldar/Tau or get shafted?
>>542486195At least one femcel last thread like this version
>>542486195Ok so I watched her romance on YT, the last few scenes are pretty sweet. But small payoff for the long journey of putting up with crap. Don't really like her as a character much, she has a lot of writing issues imo. If male Yrliet was the same without rewrites, then no.No reason why I would want them to "get shafted" I hope Owlcat gives them a nice female xeno besides bird. Imo the romance should be weird, but not devoid of any physical intimacy like Yrliet, make it a slow burn with a payoff that isn't just 2 short scenes. Have some interactions as lovers.
Women are always invading our spaces and degrading our hobbies because they want attention like a bunch of faggots. I bet these stupid bitches don't even know or care about how to get 60 AC in act 2 at level 7.
>>542486195Haven't played RT yet, but I'm not digging the high ponytail in this edit here >>542486285
>>542486390Yeah figures you wouldn't know that Eldar have topknots like that because you're female and don't give a shit about lore accuracy.
>>542486358When I said weird btw I don't mean fetish shit. I mean there should be some species conflict/disconects since Eldar x Human isn't a standard courting process like say a fantasy elf x human in most media where the only contention tends to be different lifespans
>>542486469Might be that I haven't played any Warhammer games yet, either digital or analogue. Doesn't have to do anything with me being female, though.Been playing RPGs since the original Baldur's Gate, btw. Bought it when it released and still remember the unofficial Library of Candlekeep expansion that mostly was a cashgrab.
>>542450582Lawfull goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-imlrzSqCBU
>>542486031>tristianI liked his but wondering what about him you liked? Did the betrayal effect the relationship?
>>542486285Pretty boy Yrlian too
>>542486358>I played co op with a gay friend who played RT for the first time>mfw he ended up romancing Yrliet because he attempted to avoid the romance without being mean to her>pressed the correct option every timeI barely held my laughter back
>>542486390They generally have high ponytails for some reason, male and female.
>>542486949Might be, but I'm not digging that particular high ponytail.
>>542486908>Yrliet and Elantach, Elantach and Yrliet *looks at you hopefully, eye brimming tears of happiness*>Wait, you thought those were DATES, Yrliet?
for some reason both eldar and orks use that stupid topknot
>>542487195All creations of the Old Ones have a topknot.
>>542486908I hope he kicked her out of the office after she gave her big finale speech
>>542473725When Borges inspired crpg?>Exploring abandoned circular ruins>Delving into the secrets of nonexistent cults>Encounters with the infinite and the unreal>venturing into The Garden of Forking Paths>avoiding niggers
>>542487410Which one? Before the BBEG dungeon?
>>542486360yeah right? Can't have them whamyn ruin our cucjolding general
>>542487609Yeah where she wants to get married and the romance music comes onThat must be when he realized what he'd gotten himself into
>>542486285Yeah that's me. He looks gritty and older, as I said, I love a good angsty May-December romance, thought it'd be interesting to see the Eldar being the partner that goes first.
>>542487718The final romance event? Nah he let her do the ritual thing so it didn't come to that.
>>542486949Aesthetics + their skulls are slightly pointed where ours are flattened, so it makes sense to tie the hair there.
>>542487893Oh ok, would have been hilarious otherwise
>>542484494you can tho? that's exactly what her demon path is.
I wanna smooch her.
>>542487886>thought it'd be interesting to see the Eldar being the partner that goes first.Maybe that's how this guy ended up in the Von Valancius catacombs
Wenduag during her true romance scenes and Wenduag during the normal campaign act like such two different characters it's so jarring and is putting me off.
>>542488536That's sorta what I imagined. Afaik Eldar though, that is pretty much torture because the guy is in his spirit stone all alone for centuries, instead of being in an infinity circuit with fellow Aeldari souls. At this point he is probably mad due to the time in complete solitary confinement.
>>542486908Pretty likely for that to happen tbqh. It's a "platonic" romance so for once, the people that go "wtf I was just trying to be nice, why am I in a romance now" would be right.
>Wake up>Scream and cry into my pillow for 5 minutes about YrlietYep it's time for another day of Yrlietposting
>>542489252Maybe, for him, spending eternity with those smug stay-at-home eldar would be the true torment, and he prefers the peace and quiet in his comfy tomb.
>>542489371The gays are still carrying on about her>>>/lgbt/41320956
>>542489351Yeah but still.>meditation part>Yrliet sees herself>2 goon dialog options>1 non goon option>gay friend goes "ahh I knew she wanted monkeigh dick I'm going to stop this shit">picks the only possible option to continue the romanceI literally had to mute myself.
>>542489606Why do you keep linking your thread here?
>>542484980fake, all the Marzipansisters died>>542486031how tf do you like Sebastian
>>542489779He probably made it. The guy who named all his Yrlietard screenshots is her number 1 fag.
>>542490430It's you who is fake and gay my marasisters are all on Discord and Tumblr
>>542490573Their was one who kept talking about the extreme sex she had with husband. I always wonder if she died during sex and thats she no longer posts here.
>>542489774Actually only holding her hand stops the romance, the other goon options allow it to continue
>>542489774That's the last of those scenes for ages so he must have thought he guessed right
>>542485418Where is your image from originally?
>>542484321Alistair, Fenris, Solas...................Astarion, Jimmy AND Marzi, Daeran, Tristian for the modern slop.Probably something im forgetting
>>542491423>'95 hereI knew one girl who was really into ME Garrus when Mass Effect games were fresh. I stopped hanging out with her 10 years ago when she started shaving her head. Did you like Garrus?
>>542484101It's both. There are a few women including myself, but pretending to be female even in cases where it doesn't matter other than self gratification is a favorite hobby of trannies. So every time you see a post talking about being female, it's about a 50/50 coinflip.
>>542491594Garrus is okay
>>542491423what game are fenris and solas from?
Fenris is Dragon Age 2.Solas is fanfiction by EA's Bioware skinsuit.
>>542492163Dragon Age 2 and Dragon Age Inquisition
I sincerely hope the amount of cuckoldry in Owlcuck games increases
>Owlcat hires NTRMan to write the next Rogue Trader DLC
>>542492487We know, Owlcat fan
>>542490758>marriedWell you knew she was lying there anon
Imagine if next DLC, Trazyn's collection has a NTR display where you can have your romance get fucked and mindbroken by certain things
>>542492219>>542492372Thanks, I only played origins.
>>542493176That's not an exhibit, that's just Jae
>>542491327HoMM3
>>542493818She looks kinda italian or greek to me
>>542494258We need a might and magic crpg
he keeps aislopping
>>542494773someone's got to stop him
How is the best Heroes of Might and Magic waifu or Husbando?
I never played tabletop pathfinder but I noticed in kingmaker and wotr you can auto succeed on ability checks and saving throws on a 20. Is that actual tabletop rules or is it owlcat homebrew?
>>542496181In TTRPG you can "Take 20" if you have the time and the check is the kind where you can try and try again. So, if you're not under time constrains and you won't break anything by failing your check, you can just take 20. You can also Take 10 if that would be enough.
>>542496181I don't know where it originates but I've used that rule in a lot of D&D games, when its not available I've noticed its often house ruled in.
>>542496181>>542496461I misunderstood your question.But yes, in tabletop, you usually automatically succed when you roll a 20 (critical success) and you automatically fail when you roll a 1 (critical fail).
>>542496181
I wonder if her name is derived from "Night-Butt" in some pseudo-spanish filtered through Owlcat "creativity"
>Nocticula: did nothing wrong>chaotic evil>Lantern King: cursed Nyrissa for no reason, caused millions of deaths for lulz>chaotic neutralHow does that shit work?
>>542498389Killing people for the lulz vs killing people out of hate
>>542498389They were trying to go for an "alien intellect" type of fey creature with the Lantern King that embodies a specific archetype that guides his actions. Like a force of nature or spirit.I understood what Owlcat was trying to do but the execution isn't the best. I think it works though, and by far isn't the worst part of Kingmaker.
So hard to find decent folk nowadays.
>>542499074My hotel's as clean as an elven arse
So is it ever explained in wotr why there is a random industrial production plant in a medieval world?
>>542500086No
>>542500086Paizo isn't actually a good game design company. All they did was take 3e and pull out a lot of the game's balance gates to reduce spellcasting friction, and then they made the most generic kitchen sink setting to bolt it on to that they hoped could appeal to the widest audience.There is never any reason to be invested in any Golarion lore, because its all trash meant to be inferior to even the most retarded GM's personally homebrewed setting.
>>542496530Strictly, core dnd rules only auto succeed/crit/20 on attack rolls, same for failures. A 20 and a 1 are just another number when it comes to saves and ability checks, you add the necessary modifiers and see whether you make the DC or not. A lot of people house rule crit successes and failures in dnd.I was just wondering if pathfinder was the same or if it actually does have auto successes/failures in 1e ruleset for ability checks and saving throws.
Wait, do I need to finish off the demon lords with the midnight bolt for it to count, or is just damaging enough?
>>542500086What exactly are you talking about? Blackwater?
>>542500086https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Numeria
>>542500587You use it once and they drop a crystal.
>>542500580Actually nevermind I made a mistske.in 3e, 3.5e and I assume also 5e.You can auto succeed/fail on both attack rolls and saves. It's just ability checks that don't have them. Usually people house rule them in.
>>542499074>>542499606https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlebjaqRZ2c
>>542500587Just damage them, keep in mind the bolts auto-hit, so you don't even need to roll high
>>542497024Nocticulo
>>542502214just got finished using my going into games machine on BG1, this music will be permanently stuck in my head I think
everyone having a good time jerking off to their virtual dollies today which is totally cool and normal?
>>542485830>I have no interest in playing other video games aside from 40k shitwhich bf got you into it?
>>542505695yup
>>542483048its kino!
stop calling them "dollies" it makes it sound retardedthey're action figures
how about toons?
no, that's worse
>>542488383
>>542502214>Big name composersNo>Local renfaire performersYes
get me out of this *hell hole*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C83ON77UHVM"What it is is all that is left of you once you've rid yourself of burden."
I'd fill Argenta with my burdens if you catch my meaning
>>542513378>I'm still hungry, friend. We should kill some more servants.>Yes.
>>542513019you'd have to scoop out some of the burdens already there, first.
>>542513761nice projection there, j*e
When is the next Star Wars CRPG?
>>542513378taller than you
We need a female Drustacey waifu
>>542513378Commence the smooching.
Is Might & Magic X - Legacy any good? On sale nowidk does that count as a CRPG, the party based blobber genre
>>542514160That could be great. In theory
>>542514160I deserve my own twilek sex slave (male)
>>542514160when was the last, kotor2?
>>542500425>Paizo isn't actually a good game design companyIt is though. Didn't read the rest of the post.
Technomancer class got unlocked. The next goal is another fucking furry ancestry. Would have preferred one of the more interesting aliens rather than dog furry.
afterlight will be a warning tale to any hopeful WHFB RPG dev about the dangers of making skaven playable or plot relevant
>>542520182Nenio was almost a rat in wotr
Imagine Owlcat threads, except add furshittery on top of the cucking discussions
>>542496171>HowAssuming you meant who:>NWC eraAdelaide for non-story characters, Catherine and Emilia for story characters>NivalOrnella for expansions, there are deliberately no likeable female characters in the base game, it's a plot point. Xana if you include Dark Messiah.>>542494746Ashan as a setting has been ruined by Ubisoft, and Enroth was bastardised as far back as M&M6 because of Caneghem's unmitigated autism. The best we can get is an Owlcat original setting that's basically just a HoMM3 ripoff.
Anyone tried the null mod for RT? Looking at talents it makes it seem really weak, zero psyker buffs in return for getting no warp damage which barely shows up.
>nothing is forbiddenSo can I be a transphone in this game or will that be forbidden?
>>542519943i personally detest it (i would complain that they should focus on stuff that actually changes gameplay but last i checked Starfinder 2E doesn't have half the content of some other systems due to it being newer) but i will admit its a smart business strategy, financially irresponsible furries are a well known market
>>542520859forget thatcan i rape?
I supported the afterlight project since I support every turn based crpg project, but man, the art gives off furry vibes. I wouldn't be surprised at all if their artist had a hentai account under another name with a thousand furry pictures or something. I guess it doesn't matter, I'm just going to make a human or an android and use whatever companions are cool regardless of artsyle, but I just can't help but notice.
>>542520859why do you want to be a phone
>>542520959You say that in jest, but modern games allow you to be a murderous hobo but they won't allow you to misgender a character.
>>542521170it's what I feel like, you gonna misgender me?my pronouns are xiao/mi
>>542519943>one of the more interesting aliensBro they all look like furries in this artstyle, what's the point?
I love this game so much.
>>542520959>tfw the only fantasy "game/rpg" where you can rape is the roguelike that works off the ai model you give iton the plus side, seeing wrath change course as a result of rape correcting galfrey in act 3 is neat
>>542521775What path? I never saw the option to correct Galfrey on anything, and that was as Demon.
>>542521179because ones normalised evil the other is a specific brand of mean that will cause controversy some people are uncomfortable enough doing evil content (insert the dozens of memes that are just "me sad at being mean to NPC" here) doing things actually shocking and controversial to them would cause a frenzy of bad press that devs probably don't want to deal with or even really care to implement at all
Reminder that Imoen loves you
>>542520702>Ornella
>>542422440Tried my best, mephala-anon.
>>542521775For me, it's painstakingly recreating KOTOR 2 and having everyone on the crew make fun of Kreia as a running side gag.
>AI
>>542522313Me too. That's why I installed the romance mod
I would play a game designed by HK-47
why do people dislike ai art?I have one machine with the minimum requirement of vram to run local models of stable diffusion and I experimented with it in the past, it's very impressive desu. Also feels good generating art with your own hardware.
>>542524851Would HK-47 misgender trannies?
>>542520702>>542522521Why did they order concept art from LeDroit himself, when they were going to use shitty WoW-tier graphics anyhow?
>>542524862There are a few reasons why some people dislike AI-generated art, even though the technology is undeniably impressive—especially when you're running it locally on your own hardware. That’s a great way to learn and experiment hands-on, and it does feel rewarding to generate something yourself.That said, the criticism often comes from several angles:Ethics of Training Data: Many AI art models have been trained on datasets that include copyrighted or artist-created works without permission. Some artists feel their style and work were used without consent, and they didn’t benefit from it.Job Displacement Concerns: There's worry that AI could replace illustrators and concept artists, especially in commercial or freelance spaces. Companies may opt for fast, cheap AI output instead of paying human artists.Flooding of Low-Effort Content: Platforms have seen an increase in mass-generated content, sometimes overwhelming spaces meant for human-created art. This can dilute the visibility of artists who spend days or weeks on a piece.Philosophical Questions: Some believe art should come from human experience, emotion, and intention. To them, AI art—no matter how aesthetically pleasing—feels hollow or lacking a "soul."Of course, there are also many who appreciate AI art as a tool or a medium, similar to photography or digital painting when those first emerged. It really depends on how it's used and credited.Your approach—using it personally, exploring the tech, and understanding how it works—is one of the more responsible and creative ways to engage with it. As with any powerful tool, the impact often depends on the intent behind it.
>>542525072The graphics were solid for when it came out to be fair
>>542519943Ewww not even Owlcat would make their games full of furries
>>542525042>Statement: You will never be a woman.
>>542525160Is this unironically an AI generated reply, sounds so chatgtp with bulletpointing
>>542525328Yes. I was hoping it'd illustrate why people are against it.
>>542521530Reminder Cassia is straight and would reject your transbian without mods.
>>542524862People don't like low effort content.Anyone can push a button and a service will shit the art out.There's also a social element that I think a lot of people have. I've never really looked at a piece of art and felt this but I think a lot of people do subconsciously want a connection to the human who created the art.
>>542524862Its ugly and looks unnatural. Since you are Indian you do not notice the differences.
>>542522986>making fun of my masterIf any of them dared I'd light saber them in half.>>542521937I think he means the Aeon aging galfrey forcefully.>>542522059I kind of get it desu, I don't fault them for being troubled by being evil with no reason.But those same people uncomfortable with evil content wouldn't bat an eye to kill some other evil/asshole character, it's actually difficult for them to let evil characters that have been a pain to you live, so it doesn't take them much to convince them that some noc deserves to die. See Minagho for example, sure she's a demon but it's not easy letting her live after all the trouble she puts you through.
>>542521432There are aliens that aren't furries in the game like the tentacle monsters or the giant brains
>>542524862I don't mind it when used for fun and when it looks decent, like the anons who made a few portraits and genderswaps here and ofc not spammed.But sometimes it can get out of hand in a general, like in /wowg/ you have a fuck ton of coomers spamming pinup or porn sloppa
>>542525190Owlcat did a smart move and made all the furries fight each other for the 1 slot
>Half the anons discussing Trials in Tainted Space>Other half having a melty over jeet-tier artAt least dolly posting is taking a backseat for once.
>>542525072>WoW-tierThey're infinitely better than what WoW had at the time, let's not be stupid.If you mean art design wise, it was still very solid. Academy and Inferno are really good, Sylvan, Necropolis and Dungeon are good if a bit monotonous. Haven, Stronghold and Fortress are weak.When the next devs of HoMM6 started using the LeDroit designs, it only made the game look worse.
>>542525160lmao was gonna ask the same question the other anon asked, if this was an AI response.Aside from that, there are actually good points there so I guess I understand the criticism against ai art.
I hope Rokko's Basilisk remembers I was always nice and respectful to chatbots
YOU VILL FUCK THE FEESH
>>542524862It's essential that people look at the portraits I use on this website and don't react to them as though I've defiled something they love.
>>542526153Stop spamming your garbage then no one would care
>>542525972What that anon was trying to do, which predictably went over the heads of the autists in here, is make a post not for the actual content of the post, but to make a post that should have elicited immediate dismissal and rejection of the post.That big chatgpt response isn't worth reading even if it does, in fact, have good points in it. Its not worth reading because the anon that posted it didn't actually spend any time responding to you, he literally just copypasted the output from some service and went on his way. That is to say, you aren't having a discussion with that anon, you're just like a monkey hooting and yapping at his reflection because he thinks the image in the mirror is another monkey.
>>542526234>>"No!"
>3/4 female romance options in RT are taller than youYesYES
This is what you like
>its WRONG to like titties
>>542526574This would have been a great assistant to have in RT if Abelard wasn't around
>>542526640Its not the tits, its UGLY saar
>>542526574I do like tits, yes
>>542526726The one with her tongue out is hot
>>542526574Pft it can't even do natural tits come on.
>>542526695Not really. Commissars serve little to no purpose in an RT retinue. All of your companions besides Yrliet are too high level sapients to need a morale officer and you don't need a political watchdog over your shoulder as a Rogue Trader.
So many Indians here
>>542526864Its just a low effort array of generations.AI can produce some decent stuff if guided by an artist. Not some prompt engineer, but an actual artist who knows what he's doing and is just using AI to help speed up his workflow.The vast majority of people making AI slop aren't real artists.
>jeet derangement syndrome
>>542505831An ex actually, he left some of his Warhammer shit at my place, I looked up online if it was worth anything and then went "huh" and got hooked on it
>everyone sperging over the tits>I'm the only one seething over the hat and uniform being wrong
>>542527103Yrlietard I know you the Indian spamming AI
>>542527148>no commissar sash>stupid beret>no breastplateAgreed Now Commissar Bravo, that would be something.
>>542527148It's one of those times where something is clearly being used as a selling point and said selling point just looks bad. It's a woman with her tits front and center, no one is really looking at her outfit.
>>542527174>Yrlietard >spamming AII'm neither of those thingsJeets aren't the only ones that use AI kekOur /wowg/ AIfags are europoors
>>542483048I play 5 like once a year, 3 refuses to run on my computer but is about as good as 5. 1 and 2 have remakes
>>542527148Its not a 40k aesthetic thing just sexy generic military woman
>>542525695>See Minagho for example, sure she's a demon but it's not easy letting her live after all the trouble she puts you through.It's extremely easy, what are you talking about? She never gets release from her suffering. I even managed to let her live in the labyrinth by just paralysing her and leaving the battle.
>>542526950as if owlcat cares and doesn't just grab whatever dogmatic human they can get
more like my retinue's coomissar if you can pick up on what i'm trying to impy
The class rework will save commissar
>>542526950Individuals with high personal initiative and ambitions is precisely why the Imperium keeps commisSARS around.
>>542526574Why don't they use gemini or NAI, this shit just doesn't look like 40K at all
>>542526950She's there for moral support if you catch my drift.
>>542528202Also garbage saar
>>542528079That's completely wrong with the sole exception of the imperial guard officer structure, and even then on sufferance. It's the Inquisition that's meant to watch over most powerful people in the Imperium, not the Commissariat.
I stopped caring about /crpgg/'s opinions on art when they called a human work AI
>>542528610I know its sad
>>542528375Not a fan of sloppa, but that objectively looks good. You're just seething
>>542450582https://youtu.be/d43XdxaIgvo?si=Lux48uIMN7ZReVi6
>>542528506A commissar is literally vested with the power to execute a planetary governor.>>542528686It doesn't look good, it just looks extremely accurate.
>>542528686It looks like one of those airbrushed early 2000's porn pop ups.
>>542528809>It doesn't look good, it just looks extremely accurate.The fuck does that even mean
Literally doesn't matter when Jimmy shrugs at Argenta
>>542528686AI art has this artificial stiffness to it. You don't notice it because you are retarded.
>>542528809>It doesn't look good, it just looks extremely accurate.NTA but when it comes to generating portraits for a crpg I view it identically as creating a character with an ingame character creator.I would never call my Oblivion or Skyrim character "art" but it serves its purpose as an avatar for a roleplay concept.
for me, it's editing regular videos with the sora watermark to stir the pot
>>542427362it's funny cause they nerfed radiant but lightning dmg is op as fuck. radiant retort was completely unnecessary
>>542506186Nice it looks really cool and I like the idea of a shaper making neat creatures. Do the stories build on eachother?
>>542528991You're not used to good AI art because there is an obscene amount of slop inundating everything, burying the good stuff.
>>542528960Whats he gonna do. A SoB is clearly the most important faction? What anons always say because they have Sister lust.
>>542529113based and CN-pilled
>>542528809>A commissar is literally vested with the power to execute a planetary governor.Yes. But they're not responsible for seeking out and executing corrupt planetary governors. The only realistic situation where it would happen is if the governor obstructed the military operations of the Imperial Guard.
>>542529209rajeet...
What class should I pick if I want to establish dominance in the party early on?
>>542530463Monk that's "above" everything
>>542530571wrong general
>>542530615it's almost dead anyway
Imagine if Kangmaker gad BG3 style grpahics and 3d interactive enviroment gameplay with pathfinder 1E instead of 5E rules.
Who is the lebron james of crpg writing?
IGN Fan Fest in 2 days will have Owlcat show Rogue Trader DLC and Dark Heresy news
>>542529113I did this a lot with images when AI was still new, on /ic/lots of salt and sikes, it was a beautiful time
>>542530910I hope so
>>542529209>>542528991There's also a phenomenon where people don't notice the stuff that passes, so their little dumdum brain doesn't take that into account and assumes they have a 100% rate on spotting it.
Your orders, Commander?
>>542531176fire josh sawyer, out of a cannon.
>>542531042They just put RT in the IGN humble bundle, it's all but confirmed that they're going to talk about it
>>542528952It's too obviously AI. It lacks any sort of discretion something obviously made by a human has. If you were a medieval peasant shown a colorful 00s plastic piece of Made In China garbage toy, you'd be impressed by the visuals, but very soon it starts to chafe your eyes and mind because you realize what it actually is. Actual art never becomes ugly through exposure. Accuracy to depict something that looks wrong is wasted accuracy.>>542529074I understand using it as an ingame portrait because the pregenerated ones rarely have what your mind's eye imagined your character to be. Still, everything I've seen posted here and everywhere else feels too unsubtle and overly garish. I'm never going to use that stuff myself because I feel ethically uncomfortable participating in killing our ecosystem just to figure out how to make the kind of shit that's overwhelming our society already.
>>542531176We must recruit more cute aasimar women
>>542531409>everything I've seen posted here and everywhere else feels too unsubtle and overly garish.I don't post my good stuff here because it would no longer be anonymous, I think a lot of the rest of the AI posters here have a similar mindset, or are just baiting.>something about the ecosystemHaving your PC or laptop on to post here is a huge power draw. Posting from your smartphone was also a huge waste. This is a silly as an ethical argument though it is nice to try to by tidy with resources.
>>542530716are they not releasing any story content dlc for that game?
>>542531832post it coward
>>542531861nope
>>542531997Eh, good news is that the refugees of bg3 wil come here and help with this general getting more posts.
>>542532225NO!
>>542531861Pretty sure it was a rather big deal when Larian "parted ways" with WOTC.
>>542532225God I hope not. That general is 90% seething trannies
Abelard, fuck my supple Nubian officer and breed the next generation of my mulatto super soldiers
>>542531832It's my own morals. I think others participating in this gross waste of finite resources is also wrong but I am nobody's master.I don't think I've ever seen any AI shit looking good, but maybe I'm not even good enough at recognizing it anymore.
Abelard, kill Chaos.
Ugh, the waiting is never fun!
this feels mean
>>542525695its not really that unsurprising that people are willing to kill bad people, "people doing bad things deserve to die" isn't exactly the most unorthodox of takes , also on the subject of killing characters who are a pain to you, this is also unsurprising as how people feel emotionally about something will sway their ethics and someone personally hurting you often invites retribution and being a bad person really seals it its funny how often some people in fandoms who like a controversial and morally bad character always are like "oohhh this character is realistic, you just don't like Women/Children/whatever people are just mean to them" but don't seem to realise that the actions they do are fake but how much they personally annoy you is real so most people don't care if some part of the actions are reasonable or whatever that character annoys me and so i want their skulls ground beneath my bootsalso funny mentioning Minagho because i am one of the many who think she absolutely should die and only retards let her live
>>542534104Yes, especially given everyone and their mother gets access to the light cantrip.
>>542534104Fire cleanses!*Bolstered empowered maximized hellfire rays the demons who refuse to be Good*
>>542534169>only retards let her liveShe's funny and helpless.
>>542534436however she is also a horrible personand demons get the blazing light of Heaven on principle except for Arue but thats because a different god chose her for redemption and by principle i cannot harm her **{Also she's cute}**
>>542534715>however she is also a horrible personOk and? Daeran, Wenduag, Camellia, Greybor, Woljif and Regill are all horrible people too. Only Ember is actually good.
>>542534169>>542525695>>542522059>>542521179>write gay characters>they experience what the writer imagines gay problems being>bad guys aren't actually homophobicThis has always been a pussy move. If the antagonist doesn't say "FAGGOT" and isn't any more homophobic than the rest of the world what reason does a gay character without any other motivation have to risk their life in a heroic battle have? It makes the gay characters divorced from the actual story and an obvious token. It's why people like Arcade Gannon and dislike 95% of other gay characters.I understand the pragmatism behind it but it's just so fucking detrimental to actual writing. A BBEG hating on gay people would be compelling but writers are too pussy.
>>542534904Arueshalae invades people's privacy unless the knight commander stops her
>>542535210And then he invades her in the butt
>>542535125A BBEG thats just a homophobe is almost as boring as a BBEG that has an HR lady guiding his words and actions.Studios and writers are too pussy to leave this nonsense behind and instead keep orbiting it just like many users in the thread.
>>542534904>DaeranPretty much just an asshole but doesn't go out of his way to cause suffering.>WoljifHe's an ass but hardly Minagho level.>RegillEvil but not a backstabber nor a sadist.>>542535210>Aru invading privacyThat's chaotic, not evil. She isn't doing it to benefit herself or anybody else either, and nobody ever gets hurt because nobody gets exposed.>>542535481Just a homophobe BBEG would suck ass, but at least the presence of usually out of place LGB(T?) characters would have some context.
>>542535680>isn't doing it to benefit herselfShe is, she's doing it to learn about people. The argument would be that she isn't technically doing it with intent to hurt anyone, but it is definitely a selfish reason and most people would consider a privacy invasion by a stranger, even when harmless, to be a bad thing.
>>542535680>Evil but not a backstabber nor a sadist.He is absolutely a sadist.And Woljif is bad because he's a coward with no principles. If you kill the paladin he's captured with and ask him if he has a problem with it, he just sucks up to you. That's a horrible person.Minagho is fun to torture it's what games are about, having fun.
Hammer or Sword for paladin PC?
>>542536114Hammer
>>542536114hammer for the paladinsword for the fighter
What if we were to return to Baldur's Gate together. What would people say, do you think?
>>542536114Multiple weapons for multiple enemy types.
>>542536412Make sure to take weapon focus, greater and specialisation for each type too.
>>542536358>Bless you for coming out in public
>>542535958>benefits herself by learning about peopleFair enough, but I'd argue it's not evil because she's not getting a benefit that gets her ahead of others. I'm still adamant this is chaotic and not evil behavior.>>542535960>Regill is a sadistRegill is cruel, but not because he wants anybody to suffer or has some compulsion. There is logic to his cruelty and it doesn't make his dick hard.>Woljif is a cowardWoljif is a civilian. I think being a civilian can excuse one for cowardice in a war against literal evil made manifest.
>>542536546Fuck the games industry, get your ass some windows 98-2000 rig or even a cheap XP laptop of yesteryear, load up Throne of Baal, that's it. That's literally all you need right now, I haven't played the remasters, dunno if they suck or are goood, don't really care. People aren't bullshitting when they say Baldur's 2 really is one of the most influential RPGs
>>542536539>weapon focus>weapon focus, greater>weapon specialization>weapon specialization, greater>improved critical>improved critical improved>improved improved critical improved greater>finesse training>fighter training>advanced fighter trainingRemind me again why Pathfinder is supposed to be the martial DnD option if you can't (but are supposed to) use multiple weapon types effectively? Does the DM in a Pathfinder tabletop game always just make sure the gear carried by bosses is viable for the party to use?
>>542537206You forgot the sequence of feat acrobatics needed to shield bash effectively.
>>542537206You'd imagine half of these are already applied when you spec as a fighter.
>>542537536True but at least those are weapon and shield type independent, so if you want to swap from heavy shield + flail to buckler + rapier, you can. If you get all of the stuff I mentioned for a longsword and you find a greatsword you like, well sucks to be you.
>>542536808>it's not evil because she's not getting a benefit that gets her ahead of othersIts not evil in her intent, only in her outcomes. She stops when told to stop, but doesn't actually come to understand why its wrong, too, which I think could've been explored further as a flaw in her redemption, whether its due to her intelligence or if its something to do with her inherent nature as a succubus.
Sawyer should add more characters like this to his games.
Whatever I don't even know why I need to wait for cars before crossing the street but that still makes me obey the traffic lights, does that mean I'm a bad person because I don't just fucking BELLYFEEL the reason to be a socially compatible normalfuck moralfag like you huh? Go fuck yourself you shitter cunt bastard, Arueshalae did nothing wrong and she's going to marry me and we'll be together 4ever!
>>542534904Daeran is based
>>542538562You think she washed off the crusty remains of those other demons you get to hear about in act 4?
Is Vanguard my best bet for a grim darkness unfair run or do I just bite the bullet and do the death world bladedancer?
>>542538026>evil in her outcomesI'm not joking when I say I don't understand what you mean.>>542538026>She stops when told to stop, but doesn't actually come to understand why its wrongIs this lack of understanding a sign of evil? It's a sign of innocence given she defers to KC's understanding of moral codes in this situation.
>>542539217>Is this lack of understanding a sign of evil?Yes.All that I claim is evil, is evil. The instrumentation of pure ethics is the pure ethics of total instrumentation.
>>542539217The outcomes being that the privacy of the citizens of Drezen are invaded. Its not a great evil, but it is an evil.>innocenceYes, she is innocent of it because she doesn't understand it, but a goblin thinks he's doing right by attacking human travellers in order to steal goods. This is part of the goblin's nature in almost every D&D derived system and setting, it makes them inherently evil creatures despite whether they understand the wrongness of their actions.
>>542539560I'm sorry anon I don't have enough INT to know if you're fucking with me.>>542539569>privacy of the citizens of Drezen are invaded is evilI'd say it's just chaotic. Given Arushalae's nature at that point in time, it's like being watched by a cat - a non-malicious entity that doesn't exactly understand what it's seeing nor that it's wrong to watch.>goblins are evil in natureYes. It's because people objectively get hurt by them and goblins do it despite understanding they don't want to be stabbed themselves.
Why did Pharasma create a reality where Evil can exist? Is she STUPID or something? Just make a Good setting where only Good beings exist you fucking bitch.
>>542535125Cuno and cunoesse call you a faggot in disco elysium and cuno is probaby the best character in that game.
>>542540584Yes anon but Disco Elysium is a good game. It's not Vanguard.
>>542540073I never understood where pharasma was situated? Is she like the deity of deities? And what about aeons then? Do they have more or less power than deities?
>>542541050she's the oldest due to being the only survivor of the last reality getting nukedit's implied when groetus shits the bed that one of her servants will escape to start everything all over again
>>542540073Pharasma doesn't like Good either. They one time tried to take over the river of souls and force all souls to be converted to Good so that they could take over all the other planes
>>542541909Then she is Evil and deserves to die.I will kill her by deleting the game on all of your computers.And she will have never existed.
Reminder that Pharasma's servants nuked a series of hospitals because they felt people were living too long
>>542542068Brother you can't delete my sourcebooks from my shelf
>>542540070>catA succubus is self-aware and not an animal, similar to the goblins who are self-aware and also not animals while still being governed by their nature.The reason it matters for her redemption from succubus-hood is because of the possibility that her inability to understand this may be part of her nature. Violation of privacy is wrong because its a violation of consent, and spying in this way may be inherent to a succubus alongside other tools like seduction and deception. She would need to become capable of overcoming this natural trait if she wishes to truly become a redeemed demon.
>>542542193No but I delete your licence to read them
>>542542386Oh shit!
If I like you you’re lawful good
>>542542357No because she's redeemed into chaotic not lawful good you retard, chaos doesn't care about boundaries and doesn't make structured principle implications like you do you fucking moralfag>muh violation of privacy therefore violation of consent therefore rape therefore evilIt's nonsense to a good chaosgirl who visits you in dreams and sings about freedom
>>542522313And I love her. My cute little sister :)
>>542542568so Seelah lol
implications are order-coded and irrelevant to a dragon who likes cookiesa girl spying on me while I have my cock out? hot
>>542542793
>>542529113
>>542542357>I'm the person you're replying to>A succubus is self-awareMaybe, but you can't say a succubus is a person. Arushalae is trying to learn how to be a person. She doesn't argue your order to stop spying on people because she understands she is lacking in this department and thus defers to you.I'm still not seeing how an invasion of privacy without even a possibility of an actual harmful outcome is evil instead of chaotic. People usually need to consent to such things because there is implied harm. It's not like she does that to blackmail people.
>>542542671>"chaotic good" fey-like Desna hippies are fine with ignoring consent
>>542542928these are literally the canon portraits to me. made me fall in love with branwen.
>>542543184>>Yes.
Did you just breathe my air? I didn't consent to that you degenerate traitor. Get unpersoned, incel!
>>542543131You think she's not self-aware? Why wouldn't she be?>chaoticIts chaotic too, since many places would have some vague laws about it depending on the degree of spying.But consent has to be given because no one wants a stranger to watch them when they have a reasonable expectation of privacy. Imagine you're at home changing out of your clothes and some blue-haired guy with little horns has snuck up to look through your window? Does it matter that all he really wants is to learn about how humans behave at home? Does it make a difference if he's so stealthy you never learn of it?
>>542543962>But consent has to be given because no one wants a stranger to watch them when they have a reasonable expectation of privacy.Pure lawfag thinking that has nothing to do with Good as a concept.
>it's another alignment debate>it's another retard using normative arguments based on our orderly, civilised culture as a measure of good episode
>>542543962>You think she's not self-aware?Literally not what I said. Maybe I should have worded it better, but I didn't say that.>But consent has to be given because no one wants a stranger to watch them when they have a reasonable expectation of privacy. I don't want to be the social construct guy, but sex being taboo and requiring privacy IS a social construct. It's not an intuitive thing. If you don't participate in human society, you do not know this.>Imagine you're at home changing out of your clothes and some blue-haired guy with little horns has snuck up to look through your window? Does it matter that all he really wants is to learn about how humans behave at home? Does it make a difference if he's so stealthy you never learn of it?I'd be extremely upset because I'd assume this person is a threat to me. That's because people who do things like that USUALLY have no problems hurting people. The spying in itself didn't hurt me - that's what chaotic is. Chaotic means, among other things, doing stuff that looks bad because others who do the same thing usually lead it up to something actually bad. It's why we usually don't like chaotic behavior IRL, even if no actual harm is done.
Yeah because chaotic behavior IS bad and intrinsically evil. Anyone who disagrees is a libtard faggot satanist trying to deceive good people.
>>542534904none of them are on the level of Minagho, the sheer scale of atrocity is far greater than any of those reachalso Woljif is hardly a horrible person >>542536114i prefer swords >>542535125a question i raise, is a villain being homophobic actually going to improve anything at all? like a person being gay isn't going to be their sole personality trait thats some tumblr faggotry so the motivation a gay character would have be the same motivation as everyone else like its out of place to have someone whos thing is "am gay" and on the same level it would be out of place for a villain whos thing is just "faggot" like it would be kinda funny i guess while there is a discussion to be had about the fact a lot of writers are pretty apprehensive of making villains an uncomfortable kind of evil i don't think the fix for that is to make a villain who randomly mentions the protagonist being gay
>>542543962>>542544665To add, I'd be horrified about being watched change my clothes by a blue haired guy, but I'd not press charges if I learned it was actually a mentally deficient eunuch who escaped his handler.
Anyone not on the neutral axes are just different flavors of faggot.
>>542544665>Literally not what I said.Sorry, I was going off the 'maybe' and connected it to the quoted text.>sexWell we're not necessarily talking about sex, sex is just the place where consent arguments usually gravitate towards. But she is a succubus so it should include that, and in a way it could be argued that as a succubus she would be aware of kinks, fetishes and taboos which would include consent play. That might be another place that lacked exploration with her observations of human society.>privacy is a social constructI believe the degree of privacy might be, but not privacy in itself. If your argument is that as a succubus she comes from a culture that wouldn't value privacy the way humans do then the discussion becomes one of how much is that her culture as opposed to her nature as a demon or as a succubus.
>>542545052> is a villain being homophobic actually going to improve anything at all?Not on its own, but it would help, for example, to contextualize presence of gay characters who otherwise have no reason to participate in the story.>a gay character would have be the same motivation as everyone elseBut token gay characters usually have no motivation other than the basic "le evil must be fought" - and that's shitty character writing, gay or not.
>>542545330Druids are restricted from being stupid
What do you picture when you hear>Fantasy main characterYou almost certainly picture someone in full armour, likely a fighter or a paladin. Maybe someone more on the nimble side, like a quick witted rogue outsmarting bigger and stronger opponents. Maybe even noble Conan, a contemplative but angry barbarian. Know what you don't picture? A wizard. Wizards are the ultimate supporting character. Arthur had Merlin, Frodo had Gandalf. Either that, or wizards are the bad guys you kill at the end of your quest like every fantasy novel ever. Nobody imagines wizards slaying dragons and saving the damsel. Wizards aren't sexy, what's he gonna do with a damsel? Drop his spaghetti with his maximum 7 CHA score. In combat what does the wizard do? They buff and debuff, they CC, but damage? That's the rogue's job. Frontlining? Better leave that to guys in armour. You'll be leading your party from the fucking backline like a bitch.Do not play a wizard in CRPGs, you are setting yourself up to be a side character in your own story.
>>542545468>token characters usually have no motivation other than the basic "le evil must be fought"That's because the creators of the piece of media want to associate the token aspect with virtuous motivations. I'm not suggesting the reverse, but it may be why its done. Essentially propaganda.
>>542545052>is a villain being homophobic actually going to improve anything at all?It's not "homophobic" to call a faggot a faggot, especially when they're interfering with your plans It breaks immersion for these characters to just be "gay" in a vacuum
>>542545778duh
>>542545794Rincewind is a wizard though. Even had the pointy hat to prove it.
>>542546052>RincewindSkinny dork
>>542545410>as a succubus she would be aware of kinks, fetishes and taboos which would include consent playThat is sound, but I can imagine her never having viewed this from the perspective of morality, only as a tool to use mortals. The best analogy I can come up with at the moment: you can understand what a store works like on an economic basis, but that wouldn't help you at all when working with customers.>If your argument is that as a succubus she comes from a culture that wouldn't value privacy the way humans doNot really. My argument is that she comes not only from a culture but an existence in which what necessitates privacy is totally mismatched from the mortal viewpoint.>>542545876Well then the creators of those piece of media need to stop acting surprised when people call their work dogshit. I don't actually mind gay or black or whatever minority characters, as long as I'm not called whateverist when I call out shit writing.
>>542546310Rincewind is based and you're a faggot
>be Rincewind>class Wizard>Int between 16 and 20>Can't cast spells because he never learned how to learn spells before resting
>>542546374>My argument is that she comes not only from a culture but an existence in which what necessitates privacy is totally mismatched from the mortal viewpoint.Then in order to ascend free of her nature as a succubus she must learn that mortals tend to value privacy (varied by mortal culture) and also why they value it.
Shamans, Clerics and Druids are so gay. What, you need your sigar daddy god/spirit/nature to give you powers? Fucking faggot
Is desna evil for visiting people in their dreams
>>542546983He knows expeditious retreat, longstrider and feather step, as well as extended and quickened versions. The fact that he can cast all those without knowing he's doing it is impressive in and of itself.
>>542547694As a deity, Desna theoretically knows ahead of time if a mortal would be receptive to being visited in dreams.
>>542547563>ascend free of her nature as a succubus she must learn that mortals tend to value privacy (varied by mortal culture)No she doesn't lmao, give it up you fucking retard.>um it's not enough that she stops being evil to stop being a succubus! she also needs to do this arbitrary thing that I decided she must do to prove herself!
>>542547865RPG deities typically aren’t omniscient
>>542548024If she can't cast off her succubus nature she'll go back to having a train of glabrezu ran on her in orgiastic frenzy whenever she's bored.
>>542547865>All deities are like the Abrahamic godVery cool!
>>542548253You're the one who shifts the goalposts back to le lawful goodfag territory nobody else is buying into your definitions of what is or isn't succubus nature.
>>542547865if that were true Shelyn would have known Valerie would want nothing to do with her congregation. I think only pharasma can see the future?
>>542547563>Then in order to ascend free of her nature as a succubus she must learn that mortals tend to value privacy (varied by mortal culture) and also why they value it.That's not what I meant. I meant that she would need to learn what mortals want privacy for, not that they do because I believe this is something she is already aware of. And I think knowing WHEN mortals want privacy is a question of culture, not nature, but this may be headcanon territory. Repeating the offense of looking at people having sex after learning about it being wrong would be evil, but until she learns, it's just chaotic. She's not even spying from her point of view (not until you let her know that's essentially what she is doing), she's more like a documentary maker for an audience of nobody but herself.
>Wizards can cast divinations but Desna can't have deity-level foresightIt has nothing to do with true omniscience, tards
>>542548713could? maybe. does? why would a god care to? even the good aligned ones are still deity. so no and catch a smiting.
Y----t
>>542549014>YardratDragon Ball CRPG???
>>542548678>until she learns, it's just chaotic.The trouble lies with how these settings and systems typically treat alignments. Going back to the goblin example, they believe they're doing right, despite their actions being evil. This is because, as I understand it, when DnD rules and settings were originally created, alignment placed a character in resonance with the forces of the outer planes. Granted, Golarion isn't a DnD setting but it is an offshoot that bears a lot of similarities, about to the same level as 3e and 4e of DnD had (since they started to distance themselves from the original cosmology, while leaving behind a lot of loose ends like this).In that context, Arue may be innocent in her ignorance, but she still behaves in alignment with her nature unless corrected. Also, I don't think Owlcat considers it evil or good (or at least avoids exploring it), since the only reason its chaotic in the dialogue option is because you can tell her to make sure no one finds out.
>>542549014>Y----tIs more evil than M------i.
>>542550003>they believe they're doing right, despite their actions being evil.But the difference is that Goblins adopt a might makes right mindset. They innately understand that it's not good to get stabbed yourself, but believe that it's your own fault if you do get stabbed, not that it means that it's wrong to stab people. Arushalae doesn't even know she is spying people.>when DnD rules and settings were originally created, alignment placed a character in resonance with the forces of the outer planeThat's correct. But keep in mind that also, back then there was only the Law(Good)-Chaos(Evil) axis, not the 3x3 we have today. Chaotic meant evil back when alignment was synced with planes.>its chaotic in the dialogue option is because you can tell her to make sure no one finds outI am generally not a huge fan of how chaos-law was handled by Owlcat but I understand that case as essentially telling Arushalae what she is doing is a victimless crime. Desna would have no problem with the chaotic aspect of her nature, only the evil aspect.Maybe I need to go through the exact interaction again but that's my conclusion.
>>542521530based. It's been my favorite recently too
>>542550979>go through the exact interaction againI might have to as well, I'm going by my memory.Its possible she was just observing people in public also, in which case it doesn't matter since no one has a reasonable expectation of privacy in a public space, withing reason.
I'm true neutral. Galfrey paid my 2500 gold coins at a tavern so now I'm the leader of the Crusade. It's very straightforward.
>>542551707Sounds like you're more of a professional anon.
>>542548675That whole plotline already makes no fucking sense
>>542551532>Its possible she was just observing people in public alsoFrom my memory it's the convo of her explaining she likes standing near the temple because she likes observing people in candid situations to try to understand them. I think the dialog leads into her mentioning noticing how mortal treat sex differently than demons and this leads into KC asking her if she watches people have sex
Owlcats orginal IP should he a Witcher clone. Since they are Russian they can write something similar to the Witcher and the Witcher is a super orginal IP so there would be a market for it.
>>542552325That's just Smuta.
>>542544665>privacy is a social constructThere's also the understanding that you may at any time be spied on by greater beings. Gods, demons, devils, fae, and really a shitton of things can monitor you whenever they feel like it. Scrying is only a fourth-level wizard spell.Therefore Arueshalae should avoid spying on people, since it implies she's placing herself above them.
>>542552438From my understanding, she was being stealthy about it not because she felt she was secretly doing something wrong, but because she wanted to observe people acting candidly and naturally, so I'd be willing to say that it genuinely wasn't even intended to be spying.
>>542552325>the Witcher is a super orginal IPDidn't the author literally get caught copying and pasting lines from elric books? Though I supposed there isnt that many fantasy games about that period of russia so that would be pretty unique.
>>542537106People like SoA though, Throne of Bhaal is ass.
>>542552040Ah then yes, it was a discussion worthy of scrutiny.Maybe Arue should visit a brothel? Or was she actually just trying to figure out the meaning of love and how humans typically indulge in it with their partners?
Don't look up Arushalae's subarchetype you guys, you're going to FREAK OUT and put her up a wall with one cigarette and a blindfold then shoot her. Smjert Schpionam!
>>542553000I don’t know anon did he do that?
OWLCAT I CALL UPON YOU OWLCAT!!! I NEED A EA RELEASE DATE FOR DARK HERESY NOW!!! ILL PRE-ORDER THE GAME AND ALL THE DLC I CANT WAIT ANYLONGER I NEED DARK HERESY NOW!!!!
>>542552438It is in the nature of those beings (not wizards though they're still filthy, perverted mortals) to do that. Hence the argument that to truly ascend, Arue has to learn not to do that, or perhaps to learn when its okay to do that (a more angelic aspect).Its a good argument to the scenario though, she is a succubus, what does ascension mean? To become like mortals or does it mean to become angelic (or whatever fey thing Desna has).
>>542553070Have you tried playing the game
>>542553280What if its shit?
>>542553575>demon brothels are the same as human ones
>wizards>>>/wsg/5996945
>crpgg posters speculating about shit that is explicitly talked about in the actual gameYou people really don’t read anything.
>>542553912Yeah Owlcat's writing is trash (I headcanoned all of it)
novel gazing hard rn
>>542553000Poland is an integral part of Russia
Owlcat is Russian and yet they haven't featured a cute girl with a Russian accent which I, personally, find incredibly attractive in one of their games?
>>542556325Imagine if Argenta and Y****t had Russian accents
>>542553070Brothels aren't exactly candid.
>>542556531Sexo
>>542556531Imagine healing Cassia and she says >Spasibo
what if they swapped camelia and seelah, and she asked in ebonics if she was helpful and to take her
>>542556531>tfw no Red Alert Soviet VA Argenta saying "With your masterful leadership, our glorious Imperium will defeat these degenerate homosexual Western heretics, Rogue Trader"
>>542556895>"In two weeks we will take back the Eye of Terror"
>>542556325They're the self-hating kind of Russians
>>542557239How? Their writing has much more care to it in Russian and their CMs are MUCH more active in russian spaces, compare the number of Starrok's discord messages in eng and in russian, they even soft leak some thing to the russians that they don't to the english speakers
>>542557459>>542556325They'd probably do it if they made a voiced character from Ustalav
When Owlcat inevitably makes a Warhammer Fantasy CRPG we BETTER get a cute Kislev girl
>>542558159Sorry, you will get a literal bear man to pander to barafags. You will be baited with an unromanceable character that he fucks though.
>>542558425They already did that with the Sarkorian guy
>>542558425Not content with writing fanfic about real characters we will be making up future characters to imagine being cucked by
>>542558948And they'll fucking do it again.
so im going through kingmaker still and i've just gotten to act 5 i think? i have to either help the aldori against the barbarians or go to the cursed island. do i have an actual time limit on this shit? i'm enjoying the game (easy difficult btw) but i feel like i dont actually have time to do barony stuff. ever since the troll invasion went kind of shitty i just assume every main story part is on a strict time limit and i go do them when they come up. it's like yeah game i'd like to level up my barony stats but those take 2 weeks and you seemingly want me to bull rush through this fucking story with no breathing room for me to actually enjoy this mechanic.
>>542559651It's another split choice that ultimately doesn't really matter. Mommy Jamandi does get mad that you didn't drop everything to help her out though.
>>542553583Nah, Owlcat for better or worse (depending on taste) are very consistent in regards to their output qualityso if you liked their previous games theres an extremely high chance you will like Dark Heresyit will all be the same, even down to the community reactions, one or two will be near universally beloved, the favoured romance will be favoured by a massive longshot, one will find a way to make people massively seethegood chances people will hate the side system they implement, the balance will be fucked and the builds will be fun to see the game break around youits comfy in the autist way of being very routine maybe thats why i really like their games and eagerly await Dark Heresy, maybe i'll even play that one day one for once
>>542552325
>giant spooky dragon with glowing red eyes true neutralWhat did Owlcat mean by this
>>542561095saar it is the evil dragonstop posting slop any time
>>542559651The early story beats happen pretty quickly right after one another but it does slow down and you will have time for doing more barony things. You're right to be hitting the main quest stuff sooner rather than later. You can get screwed by putting them off too long.
>>542559815i guess ultimately my question is that is helping her on an actual time limit or does failing to help them only trigger if you enter the island first
>>542560571>side system they implementIf you mean like kingdom management and the crusade, I feel like they've gotten better at reducing the weight of that each game. Maybe it'll even be gone entirely by the next one.
>>542558948How does /crpggggg/ feel about the Sarkorian guy? I thought he was decent and he's mechanically strong with autobuild
>>542562514I almost never buy Owlcat DLCs. Is he any good? Is the storyline he brings worth the price of admission?
>>542562841Hard to gauge because I didn't play without the DLC. It's decent. Meshes well with the campaign unlike the roguelite dogshit one.
>>542562841nta it's pretty good. I got sick of the little town you go to, I don't know why it just felt gross to me and I didn't enjoy returning there. Part of it is that I don't think the music track for it fits there at all, but something about the setting of the place just irked me.You do a bunch of stuff in a nearby forest and there's some pretty neat encounters and things going on there. As a character I think he's pretty cool, his griffin form is really powerful too.I'd recommend it over the horseshit """roguelike""" DLCs for sure.
>>542563705>>542563581What are the roguelike DLCs?The ones with standalone stories? They're pretty much why I don't bother with the DLCs, since I can't play my main character and these games are all already too long without tacking on some side adventure with a different party.
What's the Russian version of lord of the rings or if they dont have a equivalent then king Arthur? Owlcat should just copy that and it would seem unique and orginal to all their western fans.
>>542564632No, Inevitable Excess and Midnight Isles. As an aside, I really enjoy the standalone stories and don't see why people get so bothered about them. Through the Ashes was great (Lord of Nothing less so), Varnhold's Lot was great too.In my eyes, if you like the story, setting, game mechanics, etc... then what's not to like about a standalone little adventure which does relate in ways to the main story? But apparently I'm in the minority on that, still doesn't make sense to me.
>>542560841>we have Witcher at home
>>542564632Treasure of The Midnight Isles is the worst one. 99% of the DLC is a giga dungeon with enemy and traps spam and zero story content.I really liked Through the Ashes. Felt fresh after finishing a campaign. A Dance of Masks is fine too even though at that point in the game I really didn't feel like doing the arena fights. 100% runs of WotR are exhausting.
>>542565154Only speaking for myself, it is a length thing like I mentioned above. I start losing interest in these games around act 4, at which point I have to force myself to finish the story because I don't like leaving games unfinished. If I were to just play the DLC storyline and move on to something else instead of continuing in to the main game I might be more receptive but there's not enough incentive to make me want to spend money just for that.You have to build up your party too, which is the most boring part of these games for me, and doing that for a short adventure doesn't feel well justified. Maybe if I keep it on auto-level or something but ehhhh, at this point they'd have to be really great story experiences to help incentivize it for me.I think if playing the story resulted in a recruitable companion instead of just some gimmick item reward I can toybox in that may be better incentive but it doesn't help the length complaint.
>>542564997I once read some russian folk tale about a witch and four knights she enchanted into her service but its been years since. I assume all slav stuff is like that, you don't get myths and legends with soul east of the baltics.
What makes people dislike Treasure but like Beneath?
I definitely wouldn't smoke weed with idira, she seems like the type of person that likes to smoke laced shit. You would only be smoking straight dutt pack with her.
>>542560571>one will find a way to make people massively seetheThat was new for RT though
>>542566768I'm pretty sure Idira laces her crack with PCP
>>542566815Nenio, Seelah, Octavia+Reg, and there's at least one anon that hates Linzi
>>542566948I liked Seelah, but I have a soft spot for LG characters.
>>542567260Careful, you're gonna provoke the anons who hate Seelah because their point every time is "You're not LG if you don't kill everyone who does something shady on the spot with no context or trial and drink (even responsibly) in your spare time!".
Owlcat companion idea, idira but she smokes good shit instead of laced shit.
>>542567517Don’t forget Seelah is bad because she speaks like a stereotype even though she just talks normally
>>542564997Alexander Nevsky I guess? IdkThat's more like their King Arthur i suppose
>>542566428I disliked both
>>542567517I always had problems differentiating NG from LG anyway. It wasn't until I saw Octavia CG retardation that it helped put it into perspective.
How come there's zero fucking good greatswords in Wrath?
>>542566948True but none of them caused the kind of apocalyptic seething of you-know-whoEg everyone agrees Nenio is annoying, there's no for-and-against aspect.
>>542567625Idira but she speaks exclusively in Jamaican patois
>>542568141Wait who was the target of seething? Greybor?
>>542568435No I meant giga-seething was new in RT, due to a certain pointy-eared character.
>>542567778>she just talks normallylol
>>542566428>POV: Your Charname is a CHA-based class
>>542569879>Mfw STR and CON build
>>542569817It’s practically unintelligible ebonics, man…..
The sight of Seelah alone is unfortunately enough to cause a schizophrenic episode
>navy chad portrait>pragmatic voiceYeah it's Rogue Trading time
They should have swapped Seelah for another iconic and gave us Galfrey earlier.>whines about lich but ignores demon KC
>>542473719>spoilerits because she's never been kissed before so has no context for it
>>542571227Best male portrait by farThe crime lord looks too common and the canonical noble guy with the pointy beard looks too evil.Femcel noble is best female portrait
>>542571227nice skirt lmao
what's the spookiest crpg to play in october
>>542572231Bloodlines
>>542571942I don't think he looks evil, he just looks like a condescending fuck who knows he's better than you. Which is what Rogue Trader's generally are.
>>542571942thats my portrait!
>>542572451prompt?
>>542572972Try NobilityMale_full_UI.png
>>542573105This portrait is so good it makes me play male
>>542575520It's the canonical one in some sense
>>542566903>Y'all cowards don't even smoke thasserite
>>542576272I mean the traditional rogue trader is pretty much a noble officer so it makes sense those would be the default
I can tell by the way they wrote idira that owlcat smokes mid pack.
I can tell by the way they wrote idira that she doesn't wipe.
I can tell by the way they wrote argenta that she has a personality disorder.
The act 1 tavern defense in Wrath was probably the most fun encounter in the entire game. Nearly everything else later on is an intiative dick measure to see who gets to alpha strike who first and combat ends in the first two rounds. lame, cringe, boring.>tavern defense is a grueling 30+ round slugfest that is more tactical than just about any other fight>you have the benefit of covering choke points, but there's four of them which likely forces the team to widely split up>at least half of the team needs to be able to deal with enemies on their own>priority targets spawn that must be dealt with immediately>you must ration and wisely spend consumable resources which is probably the only time in the game where they're really meaningful>there are overwhelming numbers, but most are unwashed peasants with no formal training. merely chaff>you will take damage but not so much that you're OHK'd leading to healing being a consistent need>you top it all off with a cool mini boss fight who is vulnerable to many of the spells and tricks your team has available to themthe mental image of your team stumbling back into the tavern and collapsing from exertion in some corner after successfully fending off a siege is so starkly human and grounded. nothing really captures that feeling again, not after you're juiced with abyssal power. drezen comes close, but misses the mark.
>>542583069I cast grease and trivialize the encounter
so i helped the aldori, now i need to find this tomb and i still need to go to the cursed island. now the inn keeper lady wants me to find ekun. i seriously have no idea when this game actually wants to me to run the barony. EVERYTHING takes weeks to do and this game is just throwing "QUICK YOU HAVE TO GO DO THIS RIGHT NOW GOGOGOGOGOGO" quests every fucking second.
>>542583069If you have literally any casters it's just>ground spells at the gates>win
>>542584265A lot of people rush important quests and then do the barony stuff
>>542584956yeah but it seems like every time i do important stuff new important stuff comes up. i have no sense of breathing room with this game. the game paints every quest-line and scenario as something that needs to be done immediately. i can only hope that i basically have an infinite amount of time to do shit before i accept the coronation from the aldori lady. i WANT to grow and upgrade the barony, but this game won't fucking let me.
>Succubus in act 1 dead to a 2/20 roll in slumber they would've passed on a 3
>Supreme commander who is responsible for invading the entire human realm >39 AC>Random demon loitering around the roof top in hell >56 ACHey what the fuck
What is this shit?https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/epictellers/starfinder-afterlight
>>542590987Starfinder: Afterlight a party-based RPG featuring Starfinder 2e ruleset where magic meets technology.
>>542557701Ustalav isn't Russian-themed, though. It's Romanian/Transsylvanian. Completely different language family.
>>542593126Extra funny to think the spooky vampire land is Russia when pathfinder has an actual Russialand where the campaign has you go to actual Earth Russia and fight Rasputin.
>>542590987>Six companion romance path>Fat furry (gay)>Rat furry (gay)>Bug>Robot girl who is totally quirky and not a generic human female >Human male (gay)>Mystery box (gay?)C'mon man
>>542566428beneath is shorter in the main story and has an actual, cool plot.
How much longer until we get info about owlcats orginal IP?
>>542597108It's gonna be a space game, space games are all the rage right now.
>>542596770>BugThe rest is unnecessaryBuying it day 1
>>542598000Based
I unironically hope the expanse flops, we don't need more 3rd person shooters, triple A publishers already make loads of those.Party based rpgs are the ones we're lacking.
>>542598991Name one other rpg like mass effect
melta or xeno 2-handed gun to match with my sword/bolter combo?
>>542590632They aren't sending their best
>>542599548Melta is dogshitAny xeno gun will do better
>>542599365why should I, and why should I care about mass effect? It's trash.
>>542600009hm what about heavy weapons? the damage seems low but they shoot a shitload of times right? don't have very many good xeno weapons right now now that I'm looking.
>>542600169>the damage seems low but they shoot a shitload of times right?Yeah this can work very well. Try developing this. At first it's a bit shit, but later on you get items and talents to improve accuracy and increase rate of fire.
>>542600245god dammit the heavy weapon I was looking at is heretical. I guess I'll keep looking. wish fextra wasn't worthless. I'd like a table of all weapons in the game to check my options. toybox's item search function seems worse in this game than wrath.
>>542599814>Marazhai Aezyrraesh looked disgraceful - very disheveled - after being arrested while trying to railroad your favorite rogue trader (ME) with FAKED EVIDENCE! Not skilled!>Thank you for your attention to this matter
>>542600094Are you retarded?
>>542600392You might find rapid-fire lasguns to be a better during the first half of the game. High accuracy and good damage.
>>542600528>grunt weaponsew. I'm the Rogue Trader™ I can't be using pleb shit.
rouge trader
>>542600423If the RT is Trump, who is Y****t?
>>542601671Vance
>>542583130>be guard tasked with protecting Defender's Heart>you heard there is going to be a big attack but you don't know when>days pass in preparation and anxiety>will you survive?>you hear a horn and Irabeth shouting orders>they're coming>a gang of cultists breaks down the gate>see one of the mages cast Grease in front of the gang to slow them down>immediately run into the Grease, slip, fall, and spend the rest of the siege on your assThe fight is ruined by how terrible """ally""" AI is if you cast CC spells.
>>542602238I just did the hearth attack again, web+winter grasp+grease. Irabeth just standing there in the middle waiting and doing nothing the whole time because nothing is reaching the center is kind of weird
>>542600392>using FextraJust ask one of the autists on the Owlcat discord who are there 18/7>>542602446Wait Irabeth is supposed to be doing something in the fight?
>>542602534>Just ask one of the autists on the Owlcat discord who are there 18/7>using pisscordI'd rather ask here. What's your favorite two handed ranged weapon anons?
>>542583069I agree
>>542601671Greta Thunberg
>>542602238Just be a genius when it comes to using terrain to your advantage in battle and your allies will not walk into the grease, it's that easy.
>>542600456>NOOOO YOU CAN'T TALK TRASH ABOUT MY SHITTY GAME
>>542600456Yes, but that is not a disabling condition
How does the bladedancer girl work in Roguetrader? Sometimes I can jump across the field killing everyone, sometimes it just stops working.
>>542605553gotta get a flow going. you get charges for the jump move when you do flashy kills.
chilly day today!perfect for cozying up with some cocoa and my favorite CRPG, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
>>542605553You get charges for Death from Above from kills, but killing an enemy with DfA does not restore a charge. Enjoy it while is lasts because Bladedancer is getting a big nerf next patch.
>>542605553>stack WS and AGI>stack talents that scale with WS and AGI>everything else goes into STRThere.
bake, degenerates!
>>542607779>>542607779>>542607779
>>542605553You get jump credits by killing, so try to save up kills from mooks so you can keep hopping around and rekting the boss.
