Lipstick Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-02-2025-update.84332/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>542570451
How do I get good at Seven?
>>542651746Go back in time
Female werewolf heal tank WHEN!?
>FOR THE DJINN!!!
Why is ethereal shift allowed to exist
>>542651923Because certain characters would be ass without it.
>>542651882>why does mirage have a low wr?
>>542651882What was his plan?
>>542651882>completely misses tornadohow is that even possible
Humina humina! I love shoulders.
i hate eu so much high eternus lobbies are filled with subhuman russians with edgy anime pfps niggas are playing this game 7/24 my rank hasn't decayed and i can't keep up with the 15 year old dimitris who hasn't stopped playing this game since 2024
>>542651746press 3 then left click, if you're about to die press 4
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!plus tip.
>>542651923it wouldn't be a moba without ridiculous get out of jail free items
>>542651746build spirit + diviner's kevlar + leech and hit 4 when brooling. whatever happens afterwards is up to the other 11 people.
>>542651923dont worry the streamer borg has it in their sights, its the next thing on the chopping block
>>542651494>pros play drifter as support>but his kit is for ganking!?His kit rewards ganking but it's kind of shit at it. He gets a bunch of sprint speed effects which only let him get places faster not run people down because he loses that speed when he actually engages combat, he doesn't have any hard CC built in, so you have to itemize hard into softer CCs like slow effects on damage, but then he's also not terribly tanky either which means he's very vulnerable to being CC'd and deleted back. Most of the time if people know what they're doing and Drifter shows up mid game to try and gank them they just fucking walk away because he really can't stop them and his main tool for staying on a target also can completely fuck his positioning and get him killed so he has to let them. Which means he doesn't get stacks so his shitty gun damage never scales enough to be useful late game, and then he just doesn't have anything he brings to the table...Except a unique status effect that can hit half the enemy team and also provide important macro info at near-global ranges. So yea, people build for the only relevant thing he can bring to the table at high level.
*eshifts your post*
The black wοman οf Valve unοriginality.These are TWO different characters.
When will valve add a unique support to the deadlock?
>>542651923Because easy as fuck CC needs some sort of counter.
>>542653969we already have mirage
>>542653969SEX WITH THE SUPPLY CABINET
>>542654484That's a carry althoughbeit
>>542653147>mfw time for inhousu rookin near
>>542654718ya you could say he carries the djinn
if you destroy 2 base guardians, but from different lanes, do you still get the flex slot?
>>542653969How is viscous not unique
>>542655491he doesnt count because hes too hard for support players
Host inhouse NOW
troonhouse
>>542655632>>542655726im ready
>>542653191just post your bussy already
>caffeine wore offYes, I think it's time to feed on Geist.
>>542653191Fag misery.
>>542654630that's a man.
>>542653191
>>542651418
TOP 5 WORST PLAYERBASES(SKILL LEVEL)>Infernus>Kelvin>Mo and Krill>Paige>Billy
Holy shit brehs it's so fucking fun to be BALLING with Yamato. I'm doing pretty good at tracing/flicking Powar Slashuh and it feels so sick. I see a lot of melee items in the builds I've looked at but I really do not understand when is an opportune moment to melee. Is she immune to parry stun under her ultimate? Wouldn't my enemy be able to chain parries since it'd still succeed if he's mindful of that happening?
>>542656616>Is she immune to parry stun under her ultimateyes>Wouldn't my enemy be able to chain parries since it'd still succeed if he's mindful of that happening?no one does that
>>542656616Ive been getting back into yamato and I was super skeptical about lifestrike, but following one of my latest matches melee was in my top 3 damage sources with just spirit snatch, yes ult makes you immune to parry stun but the thing about yamato is that after a grapple you are playing a game of chicken with the target while alt firing their feet, you need to punch occasionally to keep the threat open and apply spirit snatch anyway and its a great source of damage because when you are spirit yam your damage comes from torment puls/mystic shot/cold front after you open up with your slash
>>542656616I never thought about that but why don't Yamato's ever just spam the absolute fuck out of light melees when they ult.
I'm only here because I think Paige is pretty
>>542656616
>can't farm because I'm dead>die because I'm low on farmA viscous cycle
>>542651418today I am a winner
>>542657664you didn't beat it
>Geist on my team>ignores every single comm>she's RIGHT next to a buff "hey geist get buff">doesn't do it and no one even takes it for like a full two minutes>"we're pushing an objective but have no creeps">geist is behind us, ask them to get the wave>they just run past it>they also ignore some call outs from our seven>paige mumbles something in a different language>Geist finally says "play talk less" in a heavy accent>less than 5 minutes later I say "don't chase that mirage to their base" he does and wastes a rejuv and dies alone>when we carry him to victory he SPAMS "ez" in all chat over and over and "sit pigs" I love EU servers so much
>>542656513what's the top five best
>>542657028for the love of god dont spread gun yamato, I cant take it do not build this shit I am begging you its so cancer
>>542657664>ivy>dynamodishonest
>>542656337shaking my damn head
>>542656742>>542656907Thanks for the info anons. I'm not used to play melee heavy characters and I'll work on my punching with Yam. >>542656916Maybe you're in shitlow like me lol. Nobody uses his brain or read there. >>542657028I bet that shit is viable but I'm not interested. Deleting health bars with Powar Slashuh is triggering dopamine receptors I didn't even know I had.
>>542655559>>542655491i dont play viscous as a support i just shut my brain off and glorp on people with 1
>>542657847You don't know how good you guys have it.t. Usahian
Inhouse looking for 11 feisty ranchersR6ZP7R6ZP7R6ZP7
>>542657847Try playing american servers>hey drifter help me gank paige>"vete al diablo, estoy ocupado"
>>542657664the spirits are proud, chief shitting bull
>>542656337finally a mod so gay bros will play mina.
why would you be a coomer if you aren't gonna make a bunch of children
>>542656337>no pubic hair optionworthless
JOIN THE INHOUSER6ZP7R6ZP7R6ZP7R6ZP73/12
>>542658979HOLD ON GOT TO GET THE MINA MOD WORKING
>>542658979I've got to do some homework but I should get it done before the lobby fills
>>542658953>vampire>pubesDoes he know?
>>542659104oh the great vampire lore sageenlighten us
>>542659104Motherfucker it's Vampirism not Alexandria's Genesis
>>542656337>all default>gloves off>futa onyup. mina time
>>542659104They can't use a mirror so they don't shave
>>542658172AIBY
>>542655314no
>>542659302>>542659321>>542659343he doesn't know
>>542658298>>542658360There's no way US has it worse even with your spics
>>542659302in the Twilight lore vampires can't grow hair
>>542659506It's not the spics it's all the dysgenic unemployed whites.
>>542659601>twilight vampires have bald pussyMaybe we judged twilight too harshly...
>>542659506uma delicia sopa de macaco
>>542658360>>542659649just get out of initiate
Inhouse bros I'm gonna take a shit k
>>542659415>Twilight loreanon, I would understand young adult slop like Supernatural having some weight, but softcore porn for housewives isn't exactly part of occult lore
>>542659839they are ritualist now.
>>542659850vampires are dead bro they don't age or change
>>542659992>set immortal vampire's head on fire>he's now bald forevergottem
>>542660101true
>>542659992Vampires are Undead. They exist in a state between life and death, which does not necessarily preclude the possibility of pubic hair growth
>the Twilight author made multiple millions of dollars while being to stupid to remember that hair still grows after dying, and had "vampires hair never grows actually" as a character trait in their shitty books despite it being wronglife is such a big joke
shrines are fucking useless
>>542660293afaik undead in most cases just means they're animated dead, not partially livingif vampires don't age and don't have other requirements to maintain homeostasis then they probably wouldn't grow hair>>542660669>Hair and fingernails may appear longer after death, but not because they are still growing. Instead, a person's fingernails and hair may appear longer because the skin around them has retracted, according to the Dermatology Clinic at UAMS.
Need 2 more deadlock enjoyers to do the sneedfulR6ZP7
>>542660793They just exist so you have to go inside base before shooting Patron
>>542652051I would have one that on mirage ez
>>542660830oh nevermind she's a genious and deserves everything she has
>>542659649why did you say this then >>542658360
>>542660951She was a geniusDon't forget the legendary "wtf I get it now" screenshot
>>542660793i feel like shrines should have that small fast regenerating HP bar that the midboss has.obviously not as strong but it would at least slow down one person ratting it.the double guardians are fucking worthless too.
>Want to learn more about a character>Look up videos of people playing that character>The video is specifically from a match where their opponents are completely retarded and they shitstomp themEvery fucking time. I mean watch the first two minutes of this video. What the fuck are these opponents doing? How is this an eternus lobby? I understand that if you're a youtuber you're going to post your best games, but this shit is just embarrassing. I guess you have to actually watch streams to learn somethinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITHg5imbzn8
>>542660793Remnant of old flex slot system
CONSOOOOM THEM
>>542657664GET OUT OF MY LANE
What's with the extreme precedence of smurfing lately?Or do you really expect me to believe the ~40/0/20 Calico/Billy/Doorman/Sinclair on the enemy team is a normal Alchemist player?
kevin still cant cancel his ult without canceling beam first because canceling the ult is a sub ability and you can only use ice path with beam active
>>542661172I wouldn't disgrace Mac's beautiful coming out scene in Always Sunny by associating it with common slop
what did valve mean by making all the black characters good at running away and stealing your shit?
>>542662315im not a smurf and I had one game go 21/0. sometimes people just have good games.
>>542662841Viscous is a real nigga and I don't really associate him with that
>>542662841because those are overpowered mechanics and the black characters sneed to be OP, Israel demands it
>>542663009It's happened literally every game for my last 15, and all of them have been one of the listed heroes.Furthermore all have less than 30 games played.
>>542663162It could be susBest bet is to git gud and rank out of the smurf bracket
Any heroes that are for (You)?
>>542663282I thought the smurf bracket was initiate/seeker?
>Stopped playing for a week>Climbed to arcanist from Seeker 3Why
>>542663502yoshi noticed there were 5-10 accounts that were ranked way lower than they should be, you must have been one of the guys he was talking about and he fixed your account
Who do I play if I want to be a spirit heavy DoT applier? I'm an aimlet.
>>542663669you could pla->aimletnobody
I want to headshot people. Best character/damage/fun
>>542663889doorman
>>542662841>use capacitor to purge infernus run>taze the fast blackman
da hooont begins
>having fun in lane>doing well>somewhere between 5-10 stop tunnel visioning and look at map & teams in case of ganks>oh thats [other lane] dying 8+ times and getting pushed back to walker>and [enemy carry] getting an early boostwhat am I even supposed to do about this. Can't dip from my lane without losing it. Like half of my matches.>>542663889If you actually can regularly hit headshots, Holiday is pretty fun.
>PaigeRemoved horse girl ultimateAdded knights of the roundPaige summons twelve knights that each attack once and do a cleaving melee attack that procs melee and headshot damage triggers
>>542664283>melee paige buildswhich is funny because I actually see Paige players heavy melee pretty often.
>>542664283This but they gangbang her
>>542664510About that...
>>542664283Saber skin for Paige when
>>542663009>had a guy say I was the best Holliday he’s ever played with>just last game I fed my ass offHehehe
>No invoker heroI want a mvc3 dormamu invoker.
>>542664283>shit suggestion timeOk, each time may now nominate a retard king - someone with stats far below average. Shows a montage of their deaths and a graph of how much money they gave the enemy team compared to the other players.
>>542664895>invoker hero>except he has 3 guns and has to hit an exact amount of shots from each to cast a spell
>>542665539>invoker hero>3 weapons>skill 1 moves weapons left skill 2 moves weapons right>landing a hit activates an orb>skill 3 locks in one spell>skill 4 locks another
>>542656513Except I'm playing Abrams, can you add him to the list?
>>542664673Oh.>>542664857>some guys ask if I want to queue with them because I'm the best kelvin they’ve ever seen>this was because of one miracle match between a load of bad loses where I went 0 deaths 50 assists 60k healing and was present in basically every single fight>dropping the most perfect kelvin domes I’ve ever managed, one after the other after the otherdidn’t know how to break it to them so I just played one okay match with them and dipped while I still had a good impression in their heads.
This is sounding like the Asian guy with the dead sister from LoL
>>542666096sorry, at higher elos he is one of the higher skilled playerbases, I cannot oblige
>>542656513can you add mina to this so I feel better about playing her
>>542658360I have 700 hours and I have had maybe 1 singular person speak spanish.maybe get out of retardlow and you won't run into subhumans?
>>542664185>what am I even supposed to do about this. Can't dip from my lane without losing it. Like half of my matches.You just need to suck it up and realize not every match is winnable. This is the dark side of a multiplayer PvP experience. Best you can do is not be the weakest part of a chain every match and your winrate will follow.
Did Mina and Pocket do the nasty?
>>542656513What about every other Mina eating shit all day every day?>>542656616I see people pull a light melee following the 2. But honestly one of her skills should county as a melee directly imo. If bebop & billy 1, calico 2, and viscous 3 can count as melee why can’t the character that is 3 different sword slashes have one of them count?
>>542657847>>doesn't do it and no one even takes it for like a full two minutesholy markyetter low.can I borrow your account, I want actually fun games again
>>542666241>>542666458mina was a consideration but she didnt make the cut as bottom 5 is very competitive
Why yes I buy split shot because I can't aim
>>542666158I'm in pisslow and picked Abrams because he looked cool and had a ''new player friendly'' tag to him, how is he high skilled exactly? Baiting parries is fun, but its not that big of a deal and his gun build is objectively worse compared to the unga bunga one.
TOP 5 MOST SKILLED PLAYERBASES (skill level)>Geist>Holliday>Doorman>Warden>Viscous
>>542656513There are much more hit or miss characters out there. Garbo list. Actual top 5 worst playerbases:>Lash/SevenHigh win rate by ability kit, does not require high macro knowledge to capitalize on.>Infernus/Haze/VyperSome of the highest low mmr carry potential, but low mmr players that main these characters don't know how to play the game as a MOBA.
So if I'm reading this right Pocket's dad tried to have him assassinated because his son was queer?
>>542667015Because he's a useless limp dick cuck who couldn't get it up for MinaImagine that
>>542666835its about the skill level of the playerbase, not the difficulty of playing the character properly
>>542667105He prefers being pegged but couldnt get it up to give them a childHence the nickname Pocket
>>542666862But I'm playing Doorman, remove him from the list
>>542666862>Geist>DoorminIf you don't have to aim your ult, that's a no skill character.
>>542667189Imagine not wanting to get pegged by MinaYou can still have a kid like that just take your cum and let her shove it in her pussy
>>542666862>geist>big ass bomb>sweeping fan knives>literal lock on LoS>lock on health swapThe only thing hard about her is her gun and how hard she makes me.>doormanI'll admit he has a mildly high skill ceiling with the door and cart, but he has a pretty low skill floor desu. Easy to hit gun, easy to hit bells, bullshit ult.
>>542667287Doorman's ult stops extracting value at the end game where people have enough mobility, health, and anti cc to render it moot.Also with Improved Reach you have to get into melee range, so skill issue desu.
>>542666454vampires don’t fuck
>>542667587ermm the value it gives lategame is that it forces out enemy stamina / mobility and locks them in place for a few seconds so your team can group up around them
>shit matchmaking>trapped in the game (lol no leaving!!!)>just rage inducing, unbalanced teamsshit game, developers should probably neck themselves
>>542667976Losing games will eventually put you in poophead elo so you’ll start having better matches that you can carry
>Valve dissatisfied with mid-late gameWhat a predicament for them. Most of Reddit are bitching about any game that goes past 30 minutes but right now 90% of games are >25+ minute mark>Lose teamfight>Enemy gets mid>Lose gameHow would YOU fix this without extending games past 30 minutes?Honestly I wish the playerbase was big enough to just split the players into 'TURBO' and 'NORMAL' mode. Make the current mode a tiny bit faster and call it turbo and then slow down the rate at which soul drop rate increases and fix up the late game and call it normal.
>>5426677451: Lmao2: Mina wasn't a vampire until her parents forced her into being one after the marriage with Pocket fell through
>>542668110>DynamoDumb Doorman you ain't carting shit
>>542668106shut the fuck up, I'm getting people who go 0-15 in phantom
>>542666523Are you higher than phantom? And I don't get why no one took.
Are shivs 1 larger/have a bigger hitbox the closer you are?
>>542663660>My 9-4-14 performances weren't in vainThank you Yoshi...
>>542668126I don’t believe you
>>542668110I actually want long games but only if they felt more even instead of vain struggles against a snowball.
To the nigger playing Ivy shard shift: Respectfully, kill yourself
building flame dash infernus really shouldn't work as well as it does
>>542668110well it sounds like they're doing a lot of testing for the ARAM mode so that will cannibalize all the players who don't want 35+ minute games
>>542668110this reminds me a lot of mtg commander which has become a shitshow walking corpse of itself I have been barely able to stomach the past 5 years
How big is Billy's penis
Teamwork
Last inhouse game stats. I think Mina might need some more buffs
>>542668437Imagine if his 3 proc'd on it.
>>542668635post the first one
>>542668792That game was bit one sided I didn't record the ID
>>542668635wtf don't report me
>>542668635I didn't vype hard enough...
I fucking hate the moba aspect of this stupid ass game. You might as well just DC if you lose 2 lanes. If you down more than like 5k youll never come back unless your gun carry or victor just flips a switch and goes 20-1 to bring it back. This game is so ass.
>>542668973It got really close at the end there we only just barely managed to kill the patron
I can't tell if spirit snatch is an extremely good or an extremely horrible item on pocket but I can't help but smash my briefcase into peoples face
>>542668110Would actually kill for a 1/2 soul value gamemode. 1/2 soul value, double or triple HP guardians. Just make initial lane phase last longer, it’s where I have the most fun.
>>542669048back to rivals lil nigga
>>542668604>>542668635I enjoyed this match, it pushed my Victor skills pretty hard
>>542669071spirit snatch is broken good
>>542663416They got bumped up too.
this one goes out to all the torment pulse doubters out there
>>542669071spirit snatch is really fucking good on pocket but I never buy it because theres always something I prioritize more, he weaves light melees really easily in combos and hes pretty safe doing it because people almost never parry against pocket
i am summoning the worst players you've ever seenand then putting them on your team HAHAHA
>>542668604kino play
>>542669123rivals is ass
>>542669254I feel bad for those guys having to play against this Ivy build and a Mina in the same team.Two curses still isn't enough
>Sinclair steals my ult as Vindicta and snipes the shit out of meThe whole bloodline felt the shame in that one
Why doesn't shiv rage build off NPCs? Like not even reduced rate it just flat out doesn't.
>>542669604he used to and got nerfed
>>542669604because it used to and it was insanely broken, his T3 clear speed was laughably fast and he was able to join any fight with full rage
>check https://gamebanana.com/mods/618178>huge honkers>dark nipples>retarded face editsALL I'M ASKING FOR IS A PAIR OF MODEST TITS WITH NIPPLES HIDDEN BEHIND STRAPSJUST SOME TASTEFUL MOUNDS WITH BARELY ANY JIGGLESHE'S A GARGOYLE FOR FUCK'S SAKE
>team full of russians who just brool>abrams went 0/11 in lane>our haze has less souls than I do with zero farming>our lash dies 5 times in a row and ragequitsI surely deserved that loss, yes?
>>542668635>didnt go greenaPlebian taste
>>542669048You just need to catch some picks and play smart
This was funny too>>542669457Trying being the bebop on that team.
I hate haze so much. Like I genuinely hate seeing haze in a game more than m&k, victor, kelvin, infernus, doorman etc
>>542670019I bet Wraith could have lived if he stayed in that closet
Do higher ranks actually get real games? Like even games where its not a fucking dick stomp every other game? At this point id rather just flip coins than play this stupid fucking game.
>>542670148how, she is strong but so straightforward.
>>542670219Only very rarely unfortunately. Most games are decided by who decided to lane swap or which team got the biggest feeders
Is the game down for anyone else?
>>542670363Tuesday maintenance
>>542670363was for a second NA EC
>>542670340All haze players are just the most insufferable bastards ever. Cloak-sleep-burst initiate or sleep-cloak-run when you get within a quarter mile of them. Farm like crazy while never engaging anything until they’re 30k up monsters. I hate them so so so much if I'm not playing someone with hard good hard CC.
>>542670019Clip how the game ended then
Shiv seems coolHow do I play him
>be lane janny>push lane while everybody brawls>enemy team splits and jumps me every time>own team sees enemy team peeling off and decide to go back to doing anything but pushing lanes>loseSo what's the right call in these sorts of games? Just keep split-pushing in the hopes that the team eventually gets the hint? Stick with the team and brawl until the sheer momentum forces them into the enemy base?
>>542670356I was hoping the matchmaking update would fix it, but it just gave people new badges, I dont even give a fuck about my rank. I just want even games. Even if its with low rank cum brain.
>>542671393knives if high or punch if low elo
>>542656337you got a link for that one buddyi just have to see this
>>542671393Idk I do well with him early and mid game and fall off hard late so I shouldn't be giving advice.
>>542669254Lots of free damage that will scale really well with all the free spirit from Sinners and gold idols even if you don't invest in more spiritYeah, I think it's the Powerspike item for nuvictor that makes him SO uber cancer even post-nerf.Ethereal shift, barriers, and Torment pulse are making up the difference. Getting Torment Pulse is way more money efficient than getting escalating, and you get transcedent cooldown for it and eth shift later on, max 1 first and put cooldown on that so it charges quicker and you're an unstoppable MONSTER.
>>542668110Make lane phase much shorter 10 minutes is too much.Add more goals around the map other than mid and soul jar. Make mid more of a fight rather than a damage sponge. Bring back 4 lanes and have 2 roamers/junglers with 1 person per lane.Everything about base pushing is boring. Two damage sponges, followed by two damage sponges, followed by two damage sponges with a delay between them. WOW
>>542673030>make lane shorterEat shit and die.
>>542673102wah shoot boring enemies while taking pot shots at retards without having access to items or kitsfuck off go play sniper only tf2 maps
>>542673183This sounds like a you issue where you’re not good enough to actually play lane. Deadlock lane phase is already shorter and more dynamic than any other moba I've played.
>>542652210I bet his mousepad ran out of space and he panic clicked
>>542673325>more dynamic than any other moba I've played.this nigga out here being disingenuous
>>542666862>GeistI don't see it as a Geist player.
>>542673435Sure there’s no <5m gank or whatever but playing around the bridges and their supports, veils, side lane elevation, under mid, and the movement gives you way more to work around than any other moba in the early game. You just want to spend all game every game in the jungle is what this is all about. Yeah man your 1 gank kill in the first 3m changed the whole game.
why is eshift 4 seconds?
>>542668110>How would you fix this problemA few possible ideas- Rejuv before 20 minutes gives only 2 rebirths- Rejuv doesn't give buffs anymore (to help offset the power difference)- Make it so Walkers and Base Guardians actually exist- Soul urn disabled after midboss so winners can't freely snowball with the only other objective on the map- Most likely, a base rework so that it is ACTUALLY defensible instead of featuring 10 million sightline blockages for the defenders
>>542673830Bigger question is why it has only 20 second cooldown
>>542664659That's her patron wish.
>>5426730302 junglers every game will just make lane even longer as everyone will refuse to leave tower without a rotation because it’s a coin flip if they get jumped or not. You dumbasses already whine about 24/7 brawling and that will just make most of lane a constant brawl too. It also leaves no room to play for characters with no early contest/kill confirm like kelvin, paige etc.>>542668110All towers need to be more dangerous. They're just not right now.>>542673931Apparently the current base rework has spawn surround like 2/3rds of the patron so anyone attacking it risks getting flanked and more easily trapped.
>>542673830because cc in this game is everywhere and massively overtuned
>>542674057Make an Eminem edit of shiv the one where he's like"A veteran asked Eminem for his autographed and he said only if I could have yours first"And it's Shivinem executing an Infernus who has max dots stacked onto him while he's at 10% hp
The amount of people that don't look at the map is astonishing. I watched my Haze run away from our blue walker (on full health mind you) while there was clearly a double wave about to crash it. She was a 8 second walk away from it and could've gone there and collected a million souls + saved the walker but she was running back to base to buy some shit first anyway. I did not think I would have to fucking zipline boost to save our walker when I literally had a teammate there the whole time. Shit's tiring
>>542673030Make lane not a 2v2 man fight the whole fucking time and let people shoot creeps. Lane wouldnt be as bad if it wasnt just hyper agro picks the entire fucking phase
>nigga leaves edishepic
>>542674671Yeah one of the steepest curves I've noticed when people play MOBAs is getting used to looking at the map. Too many times I've seen a teammate completely out of position and though "huh well I'm sure he knows he's in danger, no need to tell him" then 30 seconds later he's still there and gets murdered by the entire enemy team.
>>542674834Use cover dipshit. Or pullback to tower. Though I wouldn't complain if the actual meeting point of the map was extended a little. Make th actual lanes a bit longer, maybe lower minion value but increase the amount of them.>>542674671Pain in the ass when I'm playing like, a heavy team/brawl character like Paige, M&K etc, like supportive or disruptive, and have to not head to the team fight just because our characters that actually want farm just aren't stopping the pushes into our side.
>>542653191Oooooooo whos the cute boy with the red jacket and the thick accent
I know it's dumb but I really like the Deadlock lore. If valve expands on it it could be kino.
>>542675186>our characters that actually want farm just aren't stopping the pushes into our side.it's fucking crazy watching carries not want farm
>team is fighting over midboss>me, Seven and enemy Warden just duel above the pitkino
You ever just have one of those really shit games where you just turn your brain off right away and zone out
>>542675225Doorman doesn’t talk like this
>>542675542Yes>buy carpet>turn into an ICBM>farm and wave cut while running away all the time
as an Abrams player I understand now how it looks from your perspective
>>542675247No one chases validation or thinks they’re invincible more than dedicated carry/snowball players. Farm? They have farmed (a bit) and thus they can kill everything and feel good and not farm and instead look for every possible fight. Drifters in particular are bad about this>I'm playing THE 1v1 gank guy obviously I should drop everything whenever I see that red line so I can build passive stacks and become god
>>542676016what is your build negro
>>542676016learn to press F
>>542676418that's not my clip nor my game but this is what he was runningthe superior duration seems redundant as from what I checked no one built enough debuff resistance at all to counter his charge
>>542676016>Abrams charge should count as a partially parryable melee>you can parry it to have it pass through you instead of carry you but not stun Abrams>leaves room for skill to not get fucked like this>otoh it now benefits from the melee items Abrams was already building (especially adds another easy hit to crushing fists passive) and people will whiff more parries trying to anticipate this leaving you free to punch more
>>542676610you can already do this with counterspell but good luck predicting a phantom strike
>>542676591I was talking about yamato, EE and infuser is a waste of your money
>>542667587Actual retard take. Imagine thinking removing someone from a teamfight for potentially 4+ seconds is actually bad. Bet you're a nigger that spams heroes that carry you like infernigger.
>>542667923Late game positioning where everyone's often crowded together? Eeeh, it takes away some pressure, but the time it takes for someone to parkour out given a full build and how vulnerable you are to execute just makes it a spicy knockdown. Kinda overblown.Gonna be real, he's a side character late game, main character early-mid game.
>enemy team works together, all 6 of them are threats that chain their CC >my infernus just keeps dying, and no one talks>no innate teammate work>>542676016>spend all game dying like this to instagib bullshit from the 2 most fed players who have 20k leadHow do you not RAGE? There's nothing to do in the game, it's over. You are just waiting for the enemy team to do mid and end it. 35 minute match of just pointless predetermined bullshit. What can I possible do against mina/mo/dynamo?
>>542668110Nerf backdoor protection.But I'd imagine the top 1% of players would find it cringe that there's so much solo potential :v
>>542675225the way this stupid vidya twink makes me diamonds... thank god i'm not a NEET at least, it could be worse
The lash clutches yet another game
>>542677053You mean make it even more of a stomp so that the ultra uberfed carry on the winning team can run behind the losing team right as they start to gain ground and push back and back door the patron? Like I know you meant this as in "losing side has a chance to back door" but this would just make it even worse.
I think they just wanted to copy paste Roshan into deadlock and didnt realize how difficult it was to balance. Maybe just get rid of it.
>>542677282I think they forgot that the vast majority of people that play video games cry like a bitch when their mistakes are punished and simultaneously dont want to take any risks
>>542675726Theyre song lyrics from the original video smile
>>542675186tfw I go to cover from bullets and get hit by alchemical flask and doorbell for half my hp
magic changes people
>>542677173>53k souls>0 kills, 16k damage>as fucking InfernusI'd be more surprised if you lost that game.
>activates love bites on a minion>more bats for my collection!Immersion broken
>>542677173this was a state mandated loss for someone in the amber hand
>>542677548sure does! watch as your team goes from perfectly fine to incapable of aiming downwards once the enemy is hexed!
I've never seen a drifter buy more charges
>>542678014he doesn’t have a charge he has a teleport
>>542677870They probably changed it at some point
>every lane loses>haze actually hits buildings and exerts pressure on lanes>amber dives our blue walker through veil a little too hard and gets eaten alive by 5 man infernus ult + flame dash>get rejuv and in five minutes we swung from down 20k to up 20kfeels fucking good man
>>542677194It's not like there are Walker teleporters anymore, and the side with the wave pushed still has a Hyperline advantage. But yeah, it would risk making matches extremely one sided, albeit shorter.Personally I think there's other steamroll mechanics, like flex slots and Hyperline distance correlated with wave push, so we're kind of already in that territory in a sense. I don't really get the vision behind those mechanics, if I'm to go on a tangent.
>Drifter pops ult from a high vantage point>See him jump down like he's some badass>Cart bell baroness nuke him in 2 secondsThis game really can be funny when it wants to be
>>542678238nerfed even before she was even in alphaminabros… our champ is dogshit…
>>542677668We were actually cutting it real close, refresher couldn't have been a better choice for The Lash to save the gameAlso bebop was running spirit and no one but me and mina bought remover so the bombs were being a bitch
>>542676882>Imagine thinking removing someone from a teamfight for potentially 4+ seconds is actually bad.Late game, you're coming out of the Baroness at full health, probably full resources, probably less than 4 seconds. And if it's a carry and you couldn't capitalize, the full health carry is right in front of you :DAll the enemy has to do is not die in 4 seconds, that is to say slightly pull back.
Abrams has never been bad and he is as dishonest as possible
>>542679063explain how he’s dishonest chuddy
>>542678364fucking sucks to get caught that way but it is funny
Most dishonest champ? dynamomost unskilled champ? idk
>He - He's FAST!
>>542679885most unskilled champs are the highest winrate onessee whatever they're rolling on eternus lobbies
>>542680000mina and haze
>>542676016I've been playing Abrams only for the last few months, finally decided to try a different hero. He really is extremely scary when charging in your general direction, Drifter got nothing on him
>>542679885Most spoiled champ? Billy
>>542680182ret your rage frow freery birry
>>542675848waiting for the inevitable jonathan ferguson video on deadlock's guns when the game releases in 10 years
>>542679885>most dishonest: Dynamo>not Geist or Mina
Which character is the most Chinese?
>>542680459dynamo is the king hyper mega dishonestgodyou know it to be true
>>542680501Unironically mina
>>542680748True!
>>542680501dynamo
>>542680501The game doesn't have a "Do nothing; win" character yet.>>542680886translation: You ruined my life!
Is Pocket fun to play?
>>542678014He doesn't get charges on his 2 until the last upgrade. It's a lot of investment
I only play dishonest low skill characters
>>542681290victorbro btw
>>542681257Depends if you love active items and juking or if you get overwhelmed by all that
>>542681257extremely so
>>542680598He needs to be close and personal to wreck your shit with his ult, his stomp can be dodged or counterspelled because how easily telegraphed it is. Compare to Geist/Mina ults and their additional features like a ''free lane'' Geist bomb and ''free escape from anything'' + ''free damage'' on Mina
>>542681290SevenGOD...
>>542681384he will never buy warp stone and teleport into your entire team and stun them all >>542681290dynabro btw forgot to mention
>>542681290paigelet detected
Do Seven players build extra charges on his lightning ball or no? If no, is it because 8s charge time or is it because Seven players can't aim the balls?
>>542681476Seven has the lowest pickrate in Eternushe is confirmed bushido now, it isn't 2024 anymore
>>542681910it's because his power surge does more damage and 2 charges from the basekit is enough
>>542681910the ball is kind of a supplementary not primary damage source, and you run out of slots quickcan be good if you are going giga greed max and use the balls for farming
>>542681547>teleport into your entire team and stun them allGrouped up in a very small tight formation against Dynamo with his ult available? Loss status: deserved.
>>542677485tfw my lane poke requires aiming and does half the damage of those while having 2x the cd
>>542681910It's because the devs are bad at balancing the game so sevens balls are a useless dump ability as a result of the rest of his kit being so strong
>>542682423hitting more than 1 person is already gghopefully maurice and krilliam get buffed to be on his level
>Going against turret McGinnis as BillyMan I like Billy but some matchups just hard counter him and there's no way to really build around it because he has no ranged potential at all
>>542682854ask your lanemate to kill the turrets. you aren't playing 1v1 like back in the 4 lane
>>542682945It wasn't a lane thing, it was a game-long issue. I actually did decent against her until she got the turret build up, but then I was basically useless because I got zoned out of every fight hard
>>542683056turret ginnis is a meme builddid you have nobody in your team to AoE them?
>>542683184>did you have nobody in your team to AoE them?Yes, and we did end up winning, I was just personally useless. Our Victor had to do double time as the tank because I can't really initiate if I need Paige to clear up the turrets first so I'm not insta-melted
Most of these posts are people just pissed off playing the game, even inhouses being unbalanced. Is the game just made to piss people off?
>>542683727>moba>hero shooter>extremely reliant on teammatesyes
>>542683727first time playing ASSFAGGOTS?
>>542674465I mean this with my entire being, no meme.I want you to get cancer and die slow.fuck off, overwatch tranny tourist.
>>542683854What does that stand for?
>>542683915Stuns and healing are out of control, sorry if you are autistic and like playing mo and kelvin.
>>542684032Aeon of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides
I buy ethereal shift as mina because I’m bad at positioning
>>542683915>eshifts over your spirit vomit and cc spam with a ten second cdget gud lol
Why is literally every game like this? Everyone is either - in kd or like +1 while one person is like 16-x. Sometimes Im on that guys team other time I loose. Why is this match making so absolutely turbo fucked?
>>542683727i'm doing fine and having fun
>>542684061>Stuns and healing are out of controlyou are a shitlow freak that's still probably fucking emissary after the rank changes.put a shotgun in your mouth.
>>542684174Oh I wasn't expecting an actual answerNow I get to tell people Deadlock was my first ASSFAGGOTS and how I really didn't connect with ASSFAGGOTS previously, I guess
is abrams good rn yay ney as a competent shitter haven't played him since before the shop rework
>>542664510Paige has the strongest heavy melee in lane by far, her heavy melee scales with spirit.
>>542684358They are, and no amount of impotent spewing of vile garbage will change it. feel free to keep raging, it's the reason no one likes you.
>>542684467yes, one of the best tanks in the game people say. but he feels like fucking dogshit to play (note, FEELS, not is. there is a difference)>le 37 second charge and 40 second 1 early game
>>542683056Just buy Spirit Res and ignore the turretsI don't think I remember the last time where I couldn't just walk at the McGinnisI run Weighted Shot + Spirit Resilience every game though
>>542683915>>542684358t. GT OTP
>>542684061>healing is out of controlNigga. Healing in and of itself is so absolutly utter dogshit in this game. The best it does is give you a gnats dick hair worth of sustain in a team fight, or healing right to just kinda fuck off for a second just to stay in lane.
If spell parry was baseline, no healing and such, how would that change the game?
>>542684613if you uniroincally think stuns and post item rework healing is a problem, you're a clinically retarded shitter and the only cure is quitting the game and going back to whatever shithole slop game you came from, probably Overwatch.
>>542684763several heroes are now useless and never played
>>542684774>>542684675oh goodie, the raging retards who tell people to kill themselves are actual bottom skill morons that were just projecting. How unexpected!
>>542683915>look at game online>90% of clips are of people being repeatedly stunned as they're gradually beaten to deathYeah that's not a great look
>>542684230As the person who's always got that soul lead, the answer is probably that they bought Cultist/another farm item and just farmed their ass off. It's really that simple. The person who got ahead built and played to stay ahead. If your first item doesn't clear camps faster, you will fall behind unless the enemy is genuinely throwing themselves at you for freeWin lane > steal enemy Sinners > farm while looking for picks in the enemy jungleIf the enemy has no camps to farm, they can't get gold. If I took all their camps, I'm stronger, I kill them, they respawn, they have less time to farm and I get a stimmy
how does one practice counterspell timings
>>542684879name 2
>>542684887some schizoid went on an unhinged rant spamming about trannies because of overwatch a few days ago jej
>>542685003lash and yamato
>>542684965>bought Cultist/another farm itemI HATE FARM META I HATE FARM META I HATE FARM METAI just wanna hang back and play support :(
>>542684763Any spirit champs that don’t have gun scaling would be much worse at laning and a ton of champs with telegraphed skills would be much worse>>542685003doorman and paige I guess
I no lie don't know how to improve. It seems like no matter how hard I try, I never win. No matter the character, build, whatever. And I mean, I do pretty well most of the time I say. I keep up with souls, I buy good items, I counter buy when I should, I switch shit up instead of just letting them counter me, I don't die very often. I get kills and ALWAYS help my teammates secure kills, help in fights, etc. But nothing ever seems to follow through. I am at a point where I just don't think it's me anymore. I lowered my aim sensitivity to get better control and more headshots, I do great movement in game with dashes, wall jumps, I parry all kinds of shit, I save my teammates asses all game long and make great call outs.But my fucking god the teammates... They are just so unbelievably fucking stupid there is no way to teach them or even force them to play well. They never listen to calls, they don't ask for help if they need it. You play perfectly in lane and get both enemies to low HP but all your shit if off cooldown, or you're reloading, or have low HP, or whatever the fuck, and where are they? No where to be found. It's fucking crazy, what the fuck are you supposed to do?Sorry for the blog, I'm faggot
>>542685023I miss overwatch so fucking much bros. Just before they added brig was a fucking golden age. We didn't know how good we had it.
>>542685182Realistically, someone should always been in each of the lanes. Lanes give the most souls by far. So at minimum, three people should be playing to farm since constantly fighting is just fucking retarded, especially early when it doesn't even turn into objectives oftenIf you're gonna be stuck in a lane anyway, you might as well buy a farm item so you can clear some camps fast enough to get back to the lane by the time it returnsThere's really no point in buying an item for killing players if no one's coming near you to kill. With shit like Cultist, you get the money for the item to kill players by the time you actually encounter one
>>542685307tldr but you should just main one champ if possible and eventually you’ll become the best player ever
>>542684965>>542684230the correct answer is shit matchmaking. What can we derive from this statboard? The players in this game that were higher skill supposedly, did not have snowball characters to feed off of. Drifter and wraith stomped their lanes, and the enemy team worked together. Dynamo, drifter and wraith farmed constantly and ganked constantly with the amber hand stuck in their base by minute 15 probably as their jungle is farmed. Shiv, pocket and mcginnis were the designated retards of the match, which wraith and drifter exploited.
>>542685307As the other person said, one-trick something with the potential to carryI run Billy/Drifter whom just annihilate people 1v1 and then take over their junglePlay Haze or something. If you're not the problem like you believe, then you literally take over the game at the 10 minute mark
>>542685439the problem is when your team of russkies insists on BROOLING 24/7this happens regardless of rank, there is something hardwired into their brains that the only way to win by BROOLING
>>542684665I did buy those, the whole enemy comp was just: Turret McGinnis, Drifter, Vyper, Kudzu Ivy, Bomb Geist, Spirit Mo & KrillIt was a full team of either AOE spirit damage (McGinnis, Ivy, Geist) or melting anyone who gets too close (Drifter, Vyper, Mo&Krill)I think I would've had to have bought every spirit resist item to not get zoned out, so I just went gun and did the best I could and used my ult to help my team get a few picks
>>542685335>we didn't know how good we had it with the full price multiplayer only game with additional micro transactions and harmful gambling mechanics owned by BLIZZARD
>>542685003Off the top of my head it would entirely nullify several heroes' strong and strongest attacks. Drifter's very telegraphed ultimate; Wraith's very telegraphed ultimate; Lash's very telegraphed ultimate and stomp; Yamato's single high damage and very telegraphed ability; Paige's very telegraphed ultimate and root; Holliday's very telegraphed ultimate; Geist's slightly telegraphed ultimate; Shiv's very telegraphed ultimate; Paradox's very telegraphed ultimate; Infernus' very telegraphed ultimate
>>542685742You could ignore lootboxes and lose nothing.
>>542685631Ignore them. It's that simple. No matter how fed someone gets, unless an enemy is genuinely 14/0 by minute 12, then you'll always have more items than them and be able to carry just by hitting your waves and stealing sinners. Kills - especially split - do not match the souls from waves and sinnersUnironically ignore the brawling retards. If you're antsy, then just go join one of the fights once you get your first item after Cultist (or apt farm item) since now you've got 2 items that do damage to their 1
>>542684887>>542685335LMFAOOO
>0/10/2 infernus
>>542685335ow was dogshit balancewise as soon as ana was added and it only got worse as time passed
>>542684965>>542685439I know it's a MOBA so some farming is to be expected but the fact that the meta is to just play someone who scales well into the late game and farm as aggressively as possible, then get some picks and go mid isn't very fun
>>542686102>"dude you should be more careful, don't push stuff if you don't know where the enemies are.">"cyka blyat fuck your mother"
>>542684887>not denying in the slightest that he's shitlowl m a omaothese are the retards that are going 0/14 on haze in your games and crying about shit like Mo and Kelvin btw
>>542685335When they removed same pick heroes, and the devs just don’t know how to balance, changing random shit like icefrog and yoshi
>>542686149Supports are suched overtuned garbage in that game because they need to be easy mode because everyone with mechanical skill plays DPS instead. So you can be a DPS and lose a 1v1 against a Kiri because the kiri has projectiles the size of logs that can two tap you, the best cleanse in the game, and a teleport.
>>542686285>>542686102>rotate lane>he's getting jumped>rescue beam him>pause>"get out"But Im saving your ass
>>542686279Don't correlate 'buying a farming item' with 'playing for late game'. I play Billy and Drifter. They're the midgame rape BROOOOL characters but I still go CultistThe simple fact is that Cultist just gets you a lot more money + its stats are genuinely good for fighting. Same goes for Tesla Bullets despite the nerf a while backWithout Cultist, you don't really have time to get camps between roaming. With Cultist, you can clear the entire enemy jungle before the next fight even starts + you're always at an item lead so you just kill them anyway
>>542686361Oh look, we found assad shitposting guys
>>542686149Yeah this, as fun as Ana was it was all downhill from her due to the numbers.
>>542686607I accept your concession, shitlow.maybe figure out how to build healbane or toxic bullets to counter the piss poor healing numbers in this game and you won't be hard stuck ritualist (post rank change)
>>542684887buy healbane nigga.
>>542686741>he doesnt know about infuserAnyway, enjoy your schizo posting, if you think you were having a debate of any kind, I genuinely think you should seek mental help.
I’ve never once had issues with healing outside of fighting someone whose kit is specifically designed to require heal cuckage to beat in a 1v1 like victor or warden
I think im just gonna uninstall this game. 120ish hours in and at best my games have been 'this is neat i guess' and most other times 'I could have stapled my cock to the wall for 20 minutes and enjoyed that more'. I know why people fucking hate mobas now.
>shitlows unironically crying about fucking infuserLMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>542687149You'd enjoy it more if you carried games
>>542687149>120 hours in a game that isn't out yetPlease tell me y'all don't actually do this
>>542687338nta but carrying isn't fun and it only gets worse the more you win.
>rightfully call out cc being obnoxious >even confirmed by devs who tried to reduce chain cc duration unsuccessfully >thread still derails due to cc trannies
>>542687149Yeah, I uninstalled 2 weeks back and this general is infested with retards with no friends, coupled with bad matchmaking, game is doa
>your lane mate is a bebop who buys spirit snatch, does 1/3rd of your damage and melees one(1) timeyoshi give me strength...
>vyper is a snake lady>this is perfectly normal, most reservations about her are due to her wanton criminal status>billy has a goat head>this is treated as some strange oddity worth him being overly defensive aboutis there a lore reason for this that i'm missing
>>542687571I'm always have fun shitrolling people like a gorilla throwing children
>>542687609you will never be above seeker, lil bro. that's okay.
>>542687149feels like the only time i'm ever having fun in when i'm winninglosing in this game is absolutely miserable
>>542687736>uninstall 2 weeks ago>still hereWhy tho
>finally give trophy collector a chancebros... it might be worth it considering you get stacks just for existing within the vicinity of a kill. i'm going so fucking fast
>>542687736I have friends, speak for yourself.
>>542687808>you will never get out of emissary>you will never be above seekertoo scared to use actually high ranks? lol
>>542687860vg is full of mazed freaks like that 2 weeks is on the shorter end lol
>>542687860I come in once awhile to see if anything improves but I’ll probably just stop reading if the threads become infested with low skill schizos
>>542687609umm actually the game is perfect and you're just in pisslow having a skill issue moment.
>>542687984no need to because you cannot possibly be anywhere above emissary at the max with your retardedly low skill takes.
>>542687965but bro dont you get it? its NOT GOLD EFFICIENT. some twitch pro with 6 viewers on twitch told me so
>>542688020>don’t enjoy the game>cares about the general to see if 4chan shitposters and complainers will renew his interest in the gamevro…
>>542687965I'll build it next inhouse and join every BROOOL but I'm not risking it with the retards I get in matchamking.
when are they going to let us turn the character voices off
>>542687786snake people are normal. Goat people are not. Simple as
>>542688285>muh prosi don't get people sucking off literal whos in a skill bracket far beyond most peoples' reach. it's peaceful down here where pro advice rarely means anything at all
>>542688136this but completely unironically.notice how nobody in high elo ever goes "SIGH CC SO CANCER!!!"it's always shitlows like you crying because you're too fucking terrible to know how a MOBA functions.back to >>>/vg/owg troon.
>>542687736based. I uninstalled 3 weeks ago.
>>542687786Well Billy boy acts like a cunt for no reason.
Hot take. People should be able to have fun/notputtingaguninyourmouthfrustrating games in low ranks.
this is how it is going, gonna bench dynamo for a while until i am high ranked, just gonna paly the carries from now on. every single time a haze or infernus is on my team they are the most useless motehrfuckers
>>542688267>projectionkek, post profile rn>>542688136what genuine downplayers in this general sound like
thinking about paiges fat fuckingf sweater puppies
>>542688545desu just play a different genre at that pointthere is no moba that isn't frustrating
>>542688615also i fucking hate mina. there is not a single scenario where she is not fucking strong. wish she would get nerffed to the ground like seven, maybe make her stupid ass ult stationary
>>542688531This, William is insufferable.
>>542687786Maybe because he's still mostly human. He clearly wasn't born a goat based on some of the dialogue.
>>542688495>deadlocker>calling others troonskek
>>542688495Why should literally anybody care about what a bunch of nolife autists think in a game that hasn't been released to the general public yet? If you've played a game in this state that much then your perspective is so warped as to be completely worthless.
>>542688545You have fun if you're not shit at gamesLike unironically, how do you expect to have fun if you're shit enough that you can't win at the lowest rank + you're buying shit items "4fun" and throwing even the games you could've wonYou get to start having fun once you have fundamentals. When playing like a retard is a choice rather than ignorance
>>542688640now put a shotgun in your mouth, you disgusting low elo pig.
>>542688481>it's peaceful down here where pro advice rarely means anything at allthat's what i like about ladder, even mid-high rankswhatever's "meta" doesn't really matter, your knowledge of the game and own ability will do more for you and you can make anything work with enough skill. it's like when people get pissed off in OW for having an off-meta comp in bronze or some shit, where people barely even know WHY a given comp is meta
>>542687786Vyper is all snake lady. She moves and is postured like a snake person.Billy has a goat head but a human everything else. He moves and stands like a human but has a big goat head that sticks out. The juxtaposition is what's strange.
reminder that valve nerfed all healing in the item shop rework because of subhuman cancerlows like >>542684061 are literally too stupid to build healbane.UNIRONICALLY the reason btw, not even kidding.
I never buy HealbaneI never buy CounterspellI never buy Ethereal ShiftI still carry
why does grey talon's massive snare interrupt ultimates? why does he need that?
>>542689009>ascendant>aka nu-archonlol
>>542689478>no counterspell you're missing out on cucking people for fun
>>542689576LMFAO, I accept your concession.you are NEVER EVER escaping ritualist (new), shitter. no go on the forums and cry about fucking Mo healing some more, LMFAOOOOOOOO
i think i might actually be addictedi dont even like playing this game anymore i just want the rush of winning
>>542688531>>542688823>>542688832>>542689297this all is truei find in interesting how it's such a sensitive topic to him too, like obviously billy is meant to be an all-bark no-bite poser of a punk, and considering the intent of a lot of early punk fashion/appearance (to my knowledge anyways) was to be as upsetting to polite society as possible by being radically different, making a statement and all that, you would think billy would be more unapologetic/confident about the goat head. again though, he's meant to be a poser so it still lines up
>>542688997if the match making worked and people were actually put with equally shit people you wouldnt have every game being a lopsided shitshow.
>>542689597That 3200 could be spent on something that makes people die in .2 seconds or makes me run very fast
>>542689363This is why when I soloQ I am unkillable on Geist but as soon as I try to play her in the inhouse I get raped. Most players are complete retards that don't counterbuild at all.
>>542688823go fuck yourself, Geist.
>deranged archon player confusing me with another poster’s pointsuh oh melty
>>542689363never played before the rework. Was there a point where healing was actually good and not a waste of an item slot?
>>542689771Matchmaking would only give you those 'equally shit people' at helos where you can be hardstuckThe lowest ranks are where everyone - good or bad - players have to run through without having enough time to get hard stuck. It's also a low enough elo where a single 'do this to win more games' tip can be the difference between a person getting average results or hard carrying their games because no one else knows how to deal with itMatchmaking can't give you fair games at such a volatile elo
>>542689910uh oh, rape victim melty!
>>542689910>t. Emissary 2 peaking freak>>542690015yes, it was actually pretty solid.you'd see people healing like 600 health from one ability.Abrams with JUST infuser (500 souls at the time btw) would be more than enough to make his 1 extremely good.
>>542690065>It's also a low enough elo where a single 'do this to win more games' tip can be the difference between a person getting average results or hard carrying their games because no one else knows how to deal with it. Matchmaking can't give you fair games at such a volatile elohonestly thisit's entirely possible that the "smurf" that just stomped someone was just a genuine seeker player who was told "soak lanes" or something like that and they haven't played enough games yet with their new "do this to win" tip in mind to get to a higher elo
Nearly 600 hours in and I finally got a match where we were down and could never recover because two guys just kept arguing the whole time
>ur bad>no uwhat are we doing here
>>542690015nope, literally neverback then healing wasn't much better than it is right now, but healbane reduced healing by fucking 45% AND since you had 4 must-use green slots you basically never sacrificed space for ittoxic bullet was -65% too, and decay was a T2 that reduced it by 70 fucking %so even when a hero could heal decently, healbane + decay/toxic bullets combo practically negated all healing
>>542690510Shitter spotted
>>542690510this is peak moba communication
>>542690510just like my pubs.
How long until people stop being schizo about "new rank old rank" wank?
>>542690895not until release
>>542689363>>542690234Well nobody was going to start building more anti-heal after they removed 4 item slots, so that was clearly a big reason too.
>>542690895It's probably just random chance but I feel like my matches have been significantly worse since rank update. I've had some good matches but also a lot of really shit ones
>>542691330im gonna be honest it feels like the matches havent changed a bit
>>542687965It works really well on the three heroes I play, Shiv Geist and Page. The range boost helps with Shiv's ult and dash a LOT as well as Page's root and dragon, as well as Geist's grenade. The health boost is really useful on Page as well. Sure, yeah, not a great item, but if you strategise when you buy it in relation to other items it can really allow you to snowball. Geist nade especially gets nasty if you're going full nade, EE and transcendent cooldown on top of the t3 range item makes it fucking RAPE.
I love Paige with splitshot and ritualists on!!!!
>>542691376Depends on your rank, maybe someone should do a poll.I've went form low mmr to low mmr, and been completely steam rolling matches. It's free winrate, makes my account look prettier, but demonstrably I feel an overnight difference in match history.
>>542692391yeah I def win now a lot more despite the games feeling about the same skill level. It's really weird.
>>542687965>>542691481I build it on Bebop, MoKrill, and Mirage, but I think any hero that can start running around out of lane and help out is probably a good choice to buy it on
state mandated winwraith also soloed the mid boss
>>542694028forgot pic
>>542687965it's way too expensive considering it gives you nothing for the investment when you buy italso the stacks aren't great because sprint speed is only so relevant
>>542694196>unironicly being that low since the rank changerippen
>>542694384according to deadlock itself I am on the green rank, or whatever the fuck it is called
>>542694384some people have jobs
>>542694524Might as well work overtime instead of grief your team on deadlock
>>542694479They should put another number on the rank icons because I still do not know what the order is. And there's no mnemonic to help out since four of them start with A
>>542694384Anon id be willing to bet the majority of the player base will be alchemist once the new ranks settle in a week.
Enough is enough!I have enough of these motherfucking asshole motherfucking pausing the motherfucking game.
>>542694524I have a job and i'm ascendant 4 thoughbeit
>>542691481>2400 souls>800 souls will give you the same amount of range, but right away>1600 souls worth of HP, but only if you manage to reach max stacks>speed provided is sprint speed>only way it pays for itself is if you start getting kills right away, but buying the item puts you at an effective 2400 soul disadvantage
>>542694293it works great if you're not an m1 carry and need the passive soul regen ;-;the ability range feels p nice as well, specially on doorman. it + greater expansion and you become a hard to kill menace
>>542694884>nu-ascendantyou didnt climb the ranks
>>542687965>>542691481>>542694950even if it DOES "pay for itself", it does not fucking matter since 3200 souls early game is the biggest nuke to yourself you can possibly do.3200 souls early game is NOT 3200 souls late game because farming 3200 souls early game is a fucking chore while lategame you can easily nuke waves AND souls are worth more.so you're setting yourself behind for NOTHINGalso if you don't have ANY stacks (you won't when you purchase it) you are paying 3200 souls for SPRINT SPEED ALONE.it's the WORST item in the game and you are actively trolling by building it.
>>542694884>ascendant 4mouthbreathing retard
>>542694950brother you don't even need to get the kills, you can simply exist within the vicinity and still get a stack. if it isn't a horrendous one-sided shitstomp and you aren't an afk farming brainlet who refuses to see the other team past laning, you'll hit the 16 pretty fast
>>542694524one of the higher ranked people in this general has a job lol
>>542695223Cope shitter
>>542695216>you are actively trolling by building it.Understood building it next inhouse.
>>542695413unironically a good way to even out the odds against the bot tier players you get in the inhouses.
>>542695216¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's not my first pick but i do enjoy the games where i can get it. the other bonuses you get outside of sprint speed are also nice but wtf do i know>t. trenchlord
>>542695248You're this close to getting itIf it isn't a horrendous one-sided shitstomp for your team, then you're betting on your side winning with an arm tied behind your backIt's an item that turns even matchups into disadvantageous ones, and most of the scenarios you might buy it, Cultist does the same thing but starts working right away.
idk ive never built trophy collector
>>542695248>if it isn't a horrendous one-sided shitstompSo one in every 20 games its a good item?
>>542695553what the fuck are you building it for because until it's FULLY FUCKING STACKEDit's worse than cultist in every single way.>ability range?greater expansion mogs it, the 800 gold item ALSO mogs it if you are building it for one ability.>health?extra health (800 souls) gives you more until 7 stacks.>sprint speedplease god just buy juggernaut, the item is disgusting.>incomecultist mogs it by not only speeding up your clear but also giving you a good boost for clearing objectives.there is not a singular use case for trophy collector, it's fucking terrible.
I've been Going Goo in my recent matches. Any tips for the Vindicta matchup? I feel the moment I peek my health gets deleted and my cube can't save me.
>>542696158bro it's no use trying to convince people an items is bad they will keep building it.>t. argued with teammates about witchmail being dogshit.
TC should be split off into an independent tier 2 item instead of being a boots upgrade; swap the sprint stacks with stamina recovery.
>>542696217work on movement and use cover, you have a big 'ead.
Can we just fucking remove cultist from the game?
This whole Trophy Collector argument is basically this image again.
>>542696513I'd being okay with that.t. midas hater
>>542696217>I feel the moment I peek my health gets deleted and my cube can't save me.Welcome to gun carries anon. The only winning move is to not get shot. If they are a good gun carry and you dont also have one on your team to match them going 15-x then your fucked and probably lost the match. Srry :(
you ARE aim training, right, anon?
>>542696540i just prefer the unconditional immediate benefit personally but im sure people can make TC work
The whole argument can be summed up asIf you get stacks really early, good.If you don't, bad.Simple asEnd of discussion
>>542696734im aim training im voice training im sit training
>>542696734no, i'm not a fat faggot loser. imagine unironically training for a fucking video game. how about you train your real life skills and get a job, you retarded tranime loser?
>>542696513it's not even good on most heroes anymore>>542696540retard contrarian, youtubers breath air too
>>542696838>moba player>jobdoes not compute lol
>>542696734i aim train by playing the game>>542696814based
>>542688832100% has something to do with this, hell wrath thought it was a fucking bet he lost
>>542696986that's not efficient though
>>542696660We actually won! We had a Haze, they had Vinny. I was feeding really hard in the early game just getting destroyed by snipe shots. So I started building for team fights and ganging up and the weaker enemies. I had the most deaths and least amount of souls in my team but had like 30 assists. I was trying real hard not to feed that match.
i buy both tc and CS
>>542696814you gonna be a brickhon and there's nothing you can do to prevent it
is there a spoonfeeding vid on how to counter build theres like a million items in this game
>>542697361>you gonna bemade me read this in drifter's voice
>>542697415if spirit damage, spirit resilence.if BIG spirit damage, spellbreaker.if cancer debuffs, debuff remover.if spirit early hurt big, enchanters emblem.if taking sustained spirit damage early, spirit shielding.counterspell for lash/doorman ult/cancer abilities like Seven stun, Yamato slash or Lash ult.wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow.
>>542697536>ping pocket voiceline
So why are people calling anything that isn't Eternus 999 shitlow? Is this all some kind of cope?
>>542697781because anything that isn't eternus 999 is shitlow?
How do I land my ultimate as Lash? The range just seems too short.
>>542697781because they're not in eternus 1000
>>542697910you get range
>>542697910hit 2hope this helps!
>>542697865Then that means no one, except for 1 person is good at the game in it's entirety. Anyone else that isn't that 1 person is shitlow. What is this zoomer retarded ass fucking logic here?
>>542697910it's a cylinderso go as high as possible so your fov is the entire rangegetting 2-3 people is already big so don't fret for OH MY GOD MOM GET THE CAMERA plays with 6 grabs
>>542698028you won't be happy unless i say [your rank] is where shitlow ends and real good player rank starts anyways
if im playing a glass cannon character what type of greens should i be picking up to survive better because it feels like if im putting too many slots into survival then it's hard to actually be a threat as a result and im unsure if a resistance item is really a make or break
My games have been ass today. I'm the only one on my team using a mic and everyone is fucking silent. They don't even type a response when I ask them something. Shit is so ass
>>542698138What if I'm number 1? Is some ethereal entity going to be a quantum version of the number 1 player? Am I going to be shitlow until I become a literal God in all sense of the word????
>>542698353We are in desperate need of a new major patch.
>>542694196>alchemist vs seeker>wraith smurfkek being in that rank where new players are shuffled in to pass must feel so weird
>>542698381i think you took the "anything that isn't eternus 999 is shitlow" thing too literallyor do you actually think that people unironically think that and are not exaggerating? because most people say anything from (current) archon to ascendant is where shitlow ends depending on who you ask
>>542697781Anything below eternus is bad since all the archons got moved up to ascendant. I'd even be willing to say anything below eternus 4 but I'm sure that'll rile up the shitters.
So how do you Counterspell Doorman ult. Didn't it used to end if you jump off the side? But it doesn't now
>>542698951there's a status bar that lets you know when it ends and the damage appliesalternatively if you're fast you can get to the end and parry mid-air when you hit the elevator
>>542699083So it's nothingI'd rather just buy an item that lets me kill them when I get out. You're still fucked for like 6 seconds and gonna get omegaraped by their team when you leave. At least before you could end the ult instantly
>>542698951>Didn't it used to end if you jump off the sideYes when they gave some counterplay, but now Yoshi decided no fun and you vill do le gay parkour because doorman is a popular support meaning>nerfs will be avoided to appease doorcucks>support kit will make him have negative winrate
>>542698615>>542698518That whole “if you’re not rank 1 you’re trash” mindset is just toxic ego mixed with black-and-white thinking. Some people can’t handle the idea of being average, so they cope by acting like anyone below them is garbage.It’s not even logical either. Rank 2 or 3 could still mean you’re in the top 10 percent, but they act like it’s worthless because they need that superiority boost. A lot of this crap spreads through the community too. Streamers and sweaty players hype up being top rank so hard that everyone else starts believing lower ranks don’t matter.At the end of the day it’s just insecurity and tribal bullshit. People tie their self-worth to a number on a screen, and when they aren’t at the top, they tear everyone else down to feel better.
>>542698353What region? It’s like that on EU tooYou don’t even know if you’re being understood
>>542699770everyone above me is boostedeveryone below me is dogshitsimple as
>>542700284This.
>>542687965this community is doomed
>>542699770I get what you mean, but honestly i'm Ascendant 3 and i feel like i'm pretty mediocre at the game. And i don't say this as a humble brag, it's just that i play against Eternus players often and they just dumpster me. Everything they do is better, they're much better at farming, much better at shooting, movement. It's like they're playing another game. And i think this can be explained by the game being really early in its life-cycle. Couple of years from now all the pros won't even be cracking top 100. Everyone who is in Eternus will be downshifted to Ascendant/Phantom, as the playerbase increases and evolves. Right now the overall skill level of the playerbase is pretty low.
I love this lil nigga pocket like you wouldnt believe
>>542699770look if you want an estimate, ascendant I+ is almost exactly the top 10% of players so anything below that is shitlow
Vindicta gets to exist as an actual character for 10 mins and then gets deleted from the game
Your cat? Is uglyYour cat? Is dumbYour dress is ridiculousSniping is some coward shitI hate your stupid hotelStupid-ass vampireHey Professor.. you're stupid!Your bar sucksMagic is dumb
Last game of the night, guess who lost. How is this matchmaking even real, this is supposed to be mid archon
>>542701396just fly behind your team and shoot people man she's not that hard to pilot
recommend me a good lash build please
>>542701735>william lost a gameI will sleep happy tonight
>>542701735>this is supposed to be mid archonso shitlow
how the fuckdo i lane vs abrams:(
>>542700064NA>>542698415Surely we'll get one next month...surely..
>>542658360are you sure you didn't accidentally launch Dota 2?
>>542699770I'm ascendant 3. I don't try at all in my matches I just mindlessly spam kudzu and don't care to win, but I do maintain a winrate above 50%. This is not the top, if it was id be getting my ass handed to me for not paying attention, but I don't. So it's gotta be a rank a good measure above mine that's actually good, because I shouldn't be in it.
>>542701735Build less spirit and hit more towersThat much Spirit (~9k soulsish) looks like you're not only going Spirit Snatch, but also like Rapid Recharge and maybe even a third itemBilly's got the 4th highest gun scaling in the game. Your spells are just a method of applying Wrecked and getting health back. Your stats should just be a 50/50 split between yellow and green come endgame and you should just be running at towers to force people to split away from your feeding-ass team, and probably killing them if they chase
>win every single one of my lanes with ease because of my superior aiming and positioning>piss and shit myself mid game because I don't know what to doSucks being retarded bros.
>>542702690>superior aiming and positioningYou probably play Geist or some shit and don't interact with anyone
>>542702167Prostrate yourself.
NERF CULTIST NERF CULTIST NERF CULTIST NERF CULTIST NERF CULTIST NERF CULTIST
>>542702741No, I rape people with Kelvin/Viscous in lane, I also play lots of bullet spewers like Ivy and Vyper.I don't even have a single game with Geist.My problem is that I don't know where to play mid game, I don't know where to push, I don't understand why my teammates never group up, I don't even have the muscle memory to check a heroes souls before diving into them.The amount of times my tower falls and I rotate to help my other lanes and only then see as I am being raped myself that they're 4k souls ahead and my teammates have died 6 times each.The only times I have actual good games I when somebody leads the game and I mostly follow in their footstep, I'm very good at following people.
>>542702167he's zero threat in lane so long as you don't get close
>>542703304*nerfs ivy*
>>542703352>Kelvin/ViscousOkay let me rephrase>You probably play Kelvin/Viscous or some shit and don't interact with anyoneShitposting aside, you're playing gank heavy characters that transition after being lane-bullies. It's not up to your team to group on you, it's up to you to group on your team. Ivy and Vyper can, but the main two you listed don't do shit to towers alone, don't kill people alone, and can only barely counterjungle alone. So you're the dependent variable who should be emphasizing your team's choices, even if they're shit ones, because you're not playing characters that just take the game and focus it around themselves
>>542703352>superior aiming and positioning>kelvin and viscous, the most free lane winshuh
>>542702614The second spirit item was torment pulse, that Paige was going meele so I thought it would be nice since I was always surrounded by everyone, I got a ton of value from rebuttal on some fights. I also got counter spell for the Shiv and Spirit Resilience which is why I have so much more green than yellow, it was my sad attempt at trying to survive since I felt I had to compensate for the Drifter and the Vindicta. I'll try going more yellow next time, it's my second Billy game so I haven't figured out a bunch of things.
>>542696734>aim training just to left click npcs in the jungle as wraithgrim
I hate that I'm literally only good on Lash.
>>542703738More green is totally fine since Billy beats ass even when built mostly tank. Both those greens are fine. I just don't like that much purpleTorment Pulse is shit on him. It'll still do decent damage 'overall', but it doesn't actually supplement his playstyle. He's not meant to be in the thick of 4 people constantly like Mo/Krill (the iconic Torment Pulse users). He's meant to fight a couple people at once, and in those scenarios your gun will kill them way better and the Spirit isn't doing much for youIf you're dying a lot, after Spirit Resil, rush either Spellbreaker/Juggernaut depending on spirit vs gun damage wrecking you. But honestly with just Lifestrike alone and some basic resists, you should be able to 1v1 anyone in the game
>>542696734How come being good at video games is now associated with trannies? 15 years ago /v/ would make fun of anyone who wouldn't top scoreboards, now most anons cry about aimtrannies or movementtrannies
How do you carry on bebop?
Whenever I get fed as Vinbigdick I don't feel like I'm actually tearing people up I just feel like a support who steals kills
>>542704341everyone worse than me is a noobeveryone better than me has no lifeit's always been this way
>>542702167Pay attention to the veils and other close angles. Abrams can't do shit in lane other than try to push you into a wall. It's like playing against Bebop, you have to be hyper-aware of him like you would be with the hook. Keep him away and he's not much of a threat. Taking the bridge is also important because he can't slam you into a wall if you're on top of the bridge. Alternatively if you're feeling confident you can bait the charge and jump over it. The charge has a 40 second cooldown, after he uses it you can just bully him for free until it comes out of cooldown since he can't do shit
>>542702167Literally just don't get close
>playing maurice and krilliam against vindicta in lane>shitting all over her until she gets her flying ability and suddenly the lane is impossible>still barely claw out a win because my team carried my assI should have just bought knockdown first item man
>>542704429Hell it's been like this since grade school, do well on tests and you're a tryhard nerd, do bad and you're a bum going nowhere in life
>>542702167Click parry when he goes for a heavy because those niggers always think heavy melee after dash is guaranteed, when it's only guaranteed after 2 points invested
>>542704708so like 3 minutes into the lane
when people say counterspell lash ult, do they mean the pull or the landing? if it's the pull, how do you time it properly? if it's the landing, you're still getting repositioned which is pretty bad
>>542704791If he's still a thread by then, skill issueBuy rebuttal. Not even for the parry cd, but just the melee resist alone makes even his perfect engages hurt way less
>>542704638I love being shitlow no one buys knockdown besides Paige's because their support build probably told them to
>>542704919The pull. Just press F when you hear the bell, the timing is very forgiving. The Lash can delay it a bit but it's very rare, and in that case you can press it after the second bell, but the timing gets a bit harder
>>542705003I am shitlow but I still bought it just to spite her lategame even after she scaled into being a giant problem
>>542671393Buy reactive barrier and later on spirit snatch and dashmaxx. Knives are hard to use for solo games because it's easily countered by debuff remover (and victor) so your carry potential drops like a stone.In the early game it's your job to run to every single lane and take the guardians, after that steal the enemy sinners.Focus on farming enemy camps and making space for your hyper-carry while fighting with your team.You are a lot like Calico as a melee-ish bruiser, except you traded some damage for uninterrupted mobility and a killing blow.
why do i remember knockdown being a gun itemhelp me escape my schizo parallel domain
>>542706204schizo
>>542704341Because of a certain trannies group that's constantly trying to min max and reduce a few seconds in their playthrough.So people now relates min maxing autism to trannies.
>>542696734Yes, unfortunately I now only find joy in m1 characters.
>>542668110Put a bullet in the brain of all the youtubers who talk about crates and jungling as important
When is the fucking halloween update coming I'm tired of this wanky meta
>The bad player on the enemy team who's 0/6 starts shit-talking>His team carries him to victory anywayHate it when this happens.
>>542687965>>542688285>>542688427>>542691481>>542694950>>542694293>>542695216>>542700635You faggots are too stupid for game design. Trophy Collector is simply dogshit, and it should give you extra souls per kill to pay for itself. A big extra bonus to start, then gradually smaller. That way it doesn't become a huge waste of space early on, and even if things are going shit, you only need a couple of things and can sell the stupid thing to break even.
>>542708383Shit talking when you're down is the winning move I always go "GET FUCKED LMAO" when we 3v1 some asshole when i'm 0/2.
>>542708676Mad and gay lol
>>542653969Idk what it is but the supply cabinet with the eyes and lil hat and lil feet and how the eyes look around as they waddle around makes me SO FUCKING happy so incredible
why does pocket like mo and krill so much
>>542696891>breath
I love how much shitters cope in this game, they will find any excuse but their own dogshit play for why they lose games. Something about this game just makes shitters seethe and shit themselves and it's always funny to watch
>>542696540my friend used to run TC on Lash and I taught him to get majestic leap or stamina mastery first instead and he started actually winning
What's the best Abrams build that's not 100% melee focused since I now have entered the tiers where literally everyone knows how to parry?
>>542710360bad players really have a hard time understanding opportunity cost and play overly passive because they are terrified of making mistakes, these 2 combine to create a really strong connection to bad items like TC
>>542710448it's my build which is a copy of the top build "bubble boy abrams" slightly reformatted for my liking
>>542709395kinship with another they/them
>>542711067made me lol in real life
is there any way to change servers? i can't take another game with russians
>>542712885cs2serverpicker on github. yes it works with deadlock
just fuck my shit up
Fed Spirit builds never fuck me quite like fed gun builds. It feels like if you can, go gun.
>>542713551well yeah the point of gun is that it gets stronger than spirit in the late to endgame
>two updates back to backThe fuck they're adding?
when did they add the "interrupted by" thing
>>542708676retard
>>542715546eons ago
>>542710448Point blank works for close range gun and melee I believe, maybe something like hunters aura if you want to pick off. Warp stone is always good for setting up shoulder charge for free heavy melee. Could try torment pulse and spirit snatch, just need a light melee to get activate it
Can the matchmaking please stop giving me teams with six spirit heroes vs teams with 3 gun 3 spiirit? Its just so difficult to win when it happens
>>542687551I have close to 700, lmao.
>>542662317Has it been posted on the forum?
>>542687551haha, y-yeah...i-i totally didn't play 700 hours since January...who would do that...
state mandated loss, they give them to me at night now ever since the rank change for some reason
Maybe I just suck at Geist man. Every single time I play her I just kinda don't do much. Like, never bad, just not good. Sometimes my team feeds and I am outright useless, but I never feel like I make much of an impact. Are there any good builds I can try?
>>542718332Vindictia trannies be like >ermm state mandated losswhen they have ZERO fucking green items, crop off damage dealt and objective damage.kill yourself, shitter.
>>542718407Bwo she's literally the worst hero in the game.
>>542718332the hurt you feel when you imagine people searching your username and thinking you're bad for not being in the top .05% of players isn't real. it's ok. you can post usernames.
>>542718468>Said Anonymous
This game has a snowballing issue. I've had games where I got 10/0 and games where I go 0/10It really feels like that once you fall behind it's actually damn hard to catch up. Urn just doesn't move the needle enough because when you are behind the other team is easily capable of dominating the map.How would (You) change catch up mechanics?
>>542718454first of allLMFAOOOsecond of all, hero strength does not matter in your cancer low.you only get to go "SIGH MY CHARACTER FUCKING SUCKS" if you're in Eternus. which you aren't. given the shit image, shit build and damage cropping.
How do I do dashfernus? Looks funny as fuck and is less boring than classic afterburn buildsDash to engage or engage then dash? Feels like it never lasts long enough either
>>542718407look at my team bro THEY needed green items, i was fine. also how do i even touch objectives as vindicta when the entire team is feeding im squishy no matter what>>542718468it was an oracle 4 lobby
>>542687551That's nothing considering that i have stopped playing dota years ago and still have 3.7k hours on it.If i've been continue playing, it's probably close to 10k hours now.
>>542718904not giving a fuck about what you have to say when your faggot ass crops damage and objective damage numbers.go fuck yourself, shitlow. you were on that team because you're also shit, you did no better than any of them.
>>542718592>How would (You) change catch up mechanics?By not having themIf you fall behind, get shit on unless you play better. Playing well for the first 10 - 15 minutes shouldn't be invalidated by a random ass catch-up mechanic that immediately swings the game in like 1 fight, like every other moba
>>542719354i know im shitlow but i dont know why you're expecting a vindicta to carry a team with a 1-13 calico and a 0-8 shiv but if it makes you feel any better i did twice as much as haze's damage
>Shitter twostack does the relentless pushing strat>They're down 2k souls by 9 minutes>They pretend like they win when they finally get the guardian down at 14 minutes
Excessive Losing Streak detected.You have been removed from public matchmaking. To re-enter, win 3 matches against bots. (0/3)
why did i only start winning after last weeks update
they did the impossible and made match making even shitter with the rank changes, holy shit
>started last month>80 games played>games often still feel impossible to win even when i'm 11-1 and the self-admitted smurf on the enemy team calls me a smurfwhy am I as a new player expected to carry retards going 0-12 or afking at secret shop for half a minute while the enemy wraith rats a walker?
>>542720341>Ritualist 2 post rank changeI need your entire match history, I NEED these replays
>>542720425i don't know what this means i only started playing last week
>>542720425brother thats initiate
>>542720471it'd be too long to explain. tldr: ranks were stupid and got redistrubuted so the bell curve is more even. meaning people who were low elo are now in a "higher" rank to smooth out the curve, they're still essentially the same rank tho. so someone being Initiate 2 is rare if you played for a while.no offense, but low elo/new player games are actually the best content any multiplayer game has to offer.pro tip, your match ID can be looked up and people can find your username via that. you also gotta block that out. top right.
There needs to be better M1 counter items. I feel like I need to invest way more into anti M1 compared to anti-spirit
>>542720662ah, you're right.every rank below emissary is the same, bro. I can't keep track of that shit.>>542720828juggernaut, return fire, plated armor rapes every M1 character everyone that isn't Vyper or Mirage, bullet resistance, disarming hex. etc etc.
>>542720790i started playing a couple days before the update and i think i was whatever the lowest rank was either 1 or 2, i had like a 20% win rate but either i got better at the game or the skill redistribution helped me out cause now i feel most games i do a lot better and the game has become more fun
>>542720912>Requires that much investment vs spell breaker or spirit res, at worst maybe bothYeah, thats the problem
>>542720425nta but I'm green rank
>>542720986Yeah, i assume it'd be a lot better so new players are actually against new players now.good to hear!
>Faggots STILL insist Mina is shit>When she has some of the best sustain>Best mobility>Great gun>Great scalingWhat the fuck DOESN'T she have? >HPSkill issue, faggots, not a character issue
>>542721090i imagine the update came with a lot of seething that long time players can no longer farm new players
if im playing a carry is it on me to buy shit like knockdown/silence wave/slowing hex or is that something someone doing a more support build should be doingthis is a genuine question btw im not trolling im just fairly new to itemizing and wondering abt opportunity cost
>>542722330There are no fixed roles in the game. If your team needs an item and you can afford it then you should buy it
>>542722330depends on how much you gank, and how much control you personally want over a fight as you pick your targets
>>542722330It depends but if you can spare a slot for slowing hex or knockdown and it is a hard counter for key targets why not, even if there was a support role in deadlock I would rather rely on myself rather than gamble that my team mate has a brain.
>>542721958>Great gunHer gun is shit though.
>>542722462makes sense. i was thinking "if i get an active for crowd control i'm passing up damage potential, is that a worthwhile trade" but i realize that's kind of a stupid ass question when if it gets the kill it gets the kill. what about survival items, i generally default to two green items over the course of a build, maybe a third if really struggling to survive, but im not sure how much is too much>>542722512i want to gank more often but i always feel like i'm leaving my lane unattended and giving up soak for a not-even-guaranteed kill, not to mention spreading the souls in the lane thinner by being a third person in lane>>542722889yeah, that's fair. especially in lower elo you probably aren't going to get far hoping your teammates make the right call
>>542723082How many defence items and what they are really comes down to what her you are and what you are playing against. Typically resistance items are less valuable on squishy heroes and more valuable on fat ones, mobility is also a valid form of defence so don't skip on stamina or warp stone if you find yourself needing to dodge shit
>>542723405i mostly play squishier heroes that seem to survive on mobility (mina, pocket) and i find myself getting bent by fed gun carries sometimes, like a vyper or gun ivy just sneezes on me with their bullet hose and i just fall over. i don't know how much of the solution is "buy items that help you survive" and how much is "just dodge/position/cooldown manage better lol" though>warp stonehonestly ive slept on warp stone for so long i really should give it a chance
>>542721958no hp
how long until the autistic furries and trannies get to this game like tf2
>>542724124day -1
>>542724124we already have
>>542724124when the devs give up on updating it like they did with tf2
This game has too many activated items.
>>542724539t. leaguebab
>>542724623If you say so.
>>542724539I don't have an issue with all the activated stuffI have an issue with the activated stuff in a WASD game. 1234 for items has always been fine, but now that's the skills. And I don't want to have to do wacky keybinds for activated items on top of that, and still have keybinds for meleeing and other utility stuffAnd I say that as an MMO player used to 30 buttons. But at least those games my keybinds are based on stunlocking people so it doesn't matter if it takes more effort to press
>>542696273Witchmail is not dogshit thobeit
>>542724539This game doesn't have enough active item slots. Make it at least 6.
>>542724623nta but AS a leaguebab I want MORE active item slots, actually.4 is not enough.
>>542724539a lot of item cooldowns are weirdly low in deadlock for the amount of value they providelike ethereal shift is an invuln effect that you can move around during and cancel whenever you want that also gives you damage mitigation and movement speed and bonus damage for 5 seconds once your invuln expires (also apparently you can be rescue beamed during it?)its cooldown? 20 seconds
>>542725123I think their justification might be that the ttk is pretty fast?
>>542724803qexz for abiliities1234 for activesf for melee, I use mouse scroll up for parry.But in reality if you were a "real" mmo player, you would already have a mouse with side buttons that make binding shit way easier which is what I do
>>542724124Unfortunately, they are already there. >>542724539>activated
>>542725434it's just weird comparing ability cooldowns to item cooldownsif I hate a seven on the enemy team I can just buy knockdown and it'll be available for every single one of his ultimates if he dares cast them near me
>Team is behind>Team keeps holding W until they dieWhy?
>>542725607I do have side buttons. But I only have a couple.Also what the fuck kind of 'real' anything uses QEXZ for core abilities lmao. Actual fucking brainrotted take
Tonight I had either the best billy players with comms or the worst feeding faggots. No inbetweens.
>>542726654Billy is a coinflip character. Either they can control their urges to go in 1v5 despite the entire kit seemingly designed for it, or they're dead on repeatEven experienced Billy players fall to the urge
>>542726776Billy falls victim to CC harder than most I feel like, getting a CC heavy enemy team makes me want to take Billy off the roster.I also fucking hate playing Billy against Bombop because he either gets ez free stacks or you play a boring as fuck safety lane
>>542727092Don't try and run!
>>542651418Anyone else noticed that the game has some weird audio issues? Endgame fights for me audio is all weird, there is a massive drop in fps and sound is super loud. Today i noticed that unplugging my headphones dropped fps to 9 LOL. Replugging them improved performance, wtf is going on with this game??
>>542726184would
>>542727790Would hold W and die?
>>542728762uh huh, yea sure
Can Dynamo yoink people out of Frozen Shelter?
>>542729521Yes, and through walls and from underground and through buildings.
>>542662317kelvin's clunky inability to cancel his skills one by one is by far the thing holding him back the mosttoo bad he's still at the top of most rankings so he's hever getting that patched out>>542665539isn't that exactly what aphelios from league is?
>>542729557God damn it then I've just been doing it from too far away. My teammates DEAD from my INCOMPETENCE.
Just in case you didn't know, Artic Blast's frozen effect disables most movement abilities including items like warpstone.It's not quite like a slowing hex effect since mina is actually able to dash out of frozen for some raeson but most other characters movement abilities seem to work.
>>542729865When you select to cast where you are going to go there is a glowing golden ring that shows how far away your allies can be when you grab them, just use that. Also tell your teammates to run towards the wall so you can pull them out
>>542729865I just tested if Arcane Surge increases the entanglement grab range. It does not. But it will consume the charge despite it not doing anything.
>Crush lane>Doing great>Notice Mina on team has already fed 8 kills>Mina disconnectsSurely there must be some way to filter these people out of matchmaking, right? Whatever Valve is doing right now isn't enough. There's leavers so frequently, I'm starting to think they're not being punished at all.
>feed my ass off in lane>buy Cultist>farm>carry my team's ass off laterDuality of me
>>542730193I don't like Arctic Blast, and Cold Front for that matter. I don't care how le op it is, I just hate using it.>>542730978Judging by crying quitters in thi very general, they are but definitely not enough
>>542731287whyeven if you don't desperately need the slow / immobilize it's just convenient additional aoe damage for clearing minion waves and all that
>>542731685>minion
>>542730978>not banning mina during draft phasengmi
>>542731257imagine how powerful you'd be if you learned to lane
>>542731870yeah the troopers remind me of the little dudes from "despicable me" so i calls them minions
>>542731870outside of late game I don't really one shot creep waves with one ability so having CF on a relatively low cooldown to weaken the minion wave before I blow it up with my aoe ability is nice
>>5427318826% more powerful because laning doesn't matter worth shit
>>542731882I know how to lane. The problem is that I play melees. So the only thing I need to learn how to do is 'not' lane because trying to interact just means two people focus-firing meGive me someone who knows how to follow up on me basically 2v1ing people all lane and I'd be a monster. Instead I try to do everything myself and end up inting
>>542732061Laning absolutely does matter, it's just not like League where the entire game is decided in lane phase
is there any world where I apply compress cooldown on love bites rather than batsplosion as mina
>>542732253NTA but laning really doesn't mean fucking anything unless you're also good at maintaining your advantage, invading, and all the other macro shitLaning is like 300% effort for maybe a few kills if you play it well. Versus buying a farming item and getting twice the gold in half the time, without risks
>>542732373won't you go superior cd right away anyway?
>>542732430I usually get it after I go imbuement of power on rake which takes a decent amount of time to get unless I'm allowed to hyper farm
>>542732529i don't think buying compress cooldown alone on mina is worth it because you really want everything reduced
>>542732601I’m going to buy the cd item at some point and I’d argue it’s a pretty useful way to spend the money early game if it improves my ability to kill people or stack bats
You know how when you're trying to take a shit, but it refuses to play nice, so you assume Buddhist handsigns and ask the Enlightened one for help as your only salvation? That's laning as a melee into cuck characters that don't need to leave their tower except out of ego
>>542733135>BROOLers when they have to clear waves and get boxes instead of fighting
>>542733135I sentence you to 5 matches of doorman geist lane
>>542733360So my average lane>>542733321>I enjoy not actually playing the game until 20 minutes where it ends in a single teamfightAmitabha, nigger
>>542733573Keep that attitude up and it’ll stay average buddy
>>542733135>characters that don't need to leave their towerThese literally do not exist. If the enemy doesn't leave their tower, you get free farm, free denies (you can't deny melee creep from tower) and all of the boxes.
>>542733629The other poster literally said characters that did do itGeist, Doorman, Paradox, snipers. None of them actually need to leave their tower. They can clear waves from the guardian ramp anywhere in the lane, and siege your guardian with nades/bells/more naes from behind the bridge>free deniesUnless you're playing against a character with dogshit bullet velocity + ping, you sure as hell aren't denying anyone that just wants to farm from safetyAlso for all intents and purpose, being able to roll backwards up the ramp is still being at your guardian. If the enemy doesn't want to interact and has long range, it's the same shit regardless
Patch doko?
>>542731685It looks ugly and feels clunky, I keep forgetting to press it, not raysis just don't like 'em. Would rather get a tankbuster instead.
I did it! I won my first goat-rank game!
They should add cover on top of the bridgeHighground should be an advantage but instead you are a sitting duck getting leanpeeked from behind the 12 pieces of ground cover
>>542733823>They stay at their tower but actually they don't stay at their towerGoalpost moved, concession accepted.
>>542734616They experimented with that with the bridge on blue. It was a horrible idea
>>542734696It was an extra bonus that supplemented the argument, not the main argument you strawmaning spasticCherrypicking, concession accepted
Someone said a while back that there's a way to set it so specific items get bound to specific keys/slots. Were they shitposting or am I just blind to the option
I started heavy punching the walker like someone here said and I do feels its faster (though my character is prob not the best for doing at as I will certainly die)
>>542735523Yeah that was meHonestly punching the walker is more mentality than anything. I'm just willing to commit to the towerMelee basically always does more damage than guns for the same time period, though, with the exception of very specific builds. Since weapon damage applies to both it's generally in melee favor
>>542735523If you're punching the blue walker on a hero without warpstone/movement spell you can use wall bounces (the wall next to the walker in the direction of the veil/rope building) to get above the stomp radius for the second stomp, you should go into the test map and practice it
Shitlow is the bottom third of the player distribution curve (disregarding players under 100 hours)
>>542736859Shitlow is everyone below me
>>542737036The bottom 1%?
>>542733135pro-tip: swap lanes
I'm getting bored of the game already.Why can I play dota2 for thousand of hours but get bored of this?
>>542734717That wasn't cover, it was a 50 meter tall springboard for lash to 500 damage swan dive you 4 times a minute
>>542720425he forgot to censor the match ID so you can knock yourself out with that info
>>542732390How does laning not matter if the enemy has free realm to steal all your shit if they win it
>have a good lane partner>suddenly getting asked to swap>don't accept because they want me to go in a double melee lane>please we're together>pauses the gameFUCK OFF NIGGERUSE THE SETTING TO BE WITH FRIENDS DON'T FUCK TWO OF YOUR TEAMMATES BECAUSE YOU'RE NIGGERS
Is grenade geist still shit?
>>542738898Winning lane and stealing jungle aren't the same thingFor example, lane is fucking suffering for melees, usually, but if you meet a melee in the jungle 1v1 it's street rules now. No guardians, no walls, no minions, just fucking brooling
>>542679983he's golden
>>542738907The setting resets every game>Muh lane compJust get good
>>542739012No, winning lane means you probably have more souls and items, and having a guardian up means you can backtrack to safer place easier.
>>542739598Kill yourself. Setting sticks on my machine
>>542738426Every match playing out the exact same way with 'do whatever > midgame hits > whoever wins a single teamfight gets rejuv and wins' doesn't help
>>542740202How do other MOBAs avoid this problem?
anybody got a good support viscous build? the top one blows
>>542740491the maps are much bigger
Which characters remain great no matter how behind in souls you are?
Why is Paradox a lightbulb?Why is Haze smoky?Why does Yamato have a forehead like that?Why does no one comment on those but do comments on Billy's heads?Questions, questions
>>542741339Dynamo and Bebop, just due to insane teamfight utility with stom/ult for dyna and hook for bebop.
>>542741343because they already know the answer to all of those. Haze is a sandman, which is a race, and Paradox is wearing the same mask that all of Paradox wear. Yamato supposedly looks like a regular human, this is not her finished model
>>542741605>Haze is a sandman, which is a raceI thought that's just what they called assassins from the OSIC
>>542741343>Why is Paradox a lightbulb?it's a weird mask-thing>Why is Haze smoky?magical CIA fuckery i'd assume>Why does Yamato have a forehead like that?neon prime reject model, she was supposed to be a weeb alien back then>Why does no one comment on those but do comments on Billy's heads?i assume paradox's helmet and haze's smokey cianiggery are relatively well known things (paradox is a well known org. same with OSIC), but getting a goat head is like some manner of monumentally retarded behaviour or a massive freak accident
>>542741343>Why does Yamato have a forehead like that?She's Japanese if any of the cast are racist they keep it to themselves bro what the fuck
>>542741731the OSIC seeks out Sandmen to be part of a special Sandman division
>>542741339The only real answer is viscous, no other character has the sheer utility his kit provides without any investment, ball for ratting and cube for saves alone would be enough.
>>542741339All of the support heroes provide inherent utility
>>542740491I'm not an expert game designer.But I feel like I'm doing the same shit every game in deadlock regardless of which hero I play.The only difference is how much I can min max and improve the efficiency more.And that's not fun.
bebop!!! don't invite that homeless blood soaked guy over to miss shelley's!!! bebop noooo!!!!
>>542741339mo&krill, dynamo, ivy, bepop, doorman and viscous i'd say can be terrorists even when behind
>>542742307factual listno matter how retarded you are, you can press 1 button with doorman or m&k and disable the most fed enemy for your team to beam down
Dynamo stomp being on 2.5 sec cd and having charges is criminal. I love getting bounced around by the map wide AOE.
After the rank update I was winning and ranking up (got up to arcanist 3, not inoressive but it was progress). Then I queued for 2 games with my friend who is ascendant. Obviously matchmaking didnt know what to do with us so we had two really bad matches. Thats fine, I was prepared for that. However I have queued up for 6 solo matches since and they have all been abysmal, i maybe won only one or two. Did I fuck up my matchmaking by playing with my friend?
>>542742614it takes gorillion seconds to get another charge and it takes a ton of investment for it to actually hit niggas. you can also just double jump to avoid it completely
>>542742693*impressiveI tried so hard to fix all my typos but clearly im fucking braindead
>>542718305New around here?
>>542687551i have 700+ hours
>>542740202Allegedly, this is something they're trying to solve
Love this dumb heroJust fucking run a train through cunts at mach 20
>>542742209>saves the day by making him jumbalaya
text chat is saved in every single replayhow come we don't have a slur leaderboard yet?
>>542742209Its a ploy to lead Drifter into a calm, empty corner and double bomb him there
>>542741343Bro you can't ask Ixians why are they made of smoke just like that fr>>542741339Anyone who's utility option foesn't scale off items. Doorman, Dynamo, MnK, Kelvin
>>542742209Well awen’t you a totful little scrap golèm
>>542740491A few things>Dota has highground (attacking from lowground can miss + you need a ward to even see into their base). Rosh (its rejuv) only works on one person and you know who, so you can play around it>League doesn't get revives from the big boss, just stronger waves, and there's some minor mechanics spread around to try and slow the final push>Smite's objectives will actually fucking kill you (sometimes) and the revive mechanic has to be timed properly, and if fucked up, it drops and the enemy gets it insteadAs a side note, this game has 6 players instead of 5, but it feels like each player does more damage to towers in this than other games. So you can just fucking obliterate all the objectives at the end with the only thing stopping the instant win being the invulnerability of the Patron going into phase 2. You can basically clear out the entire base - ie. all 3 guardians, both objectives, and the first phase of the guardian - in the time it takes to take out a tower in other games. Give or takeHonestly I don't mind the speed the games ends at the end because long base sieges are cringe. I just don't like how midgame might as well be a small 5 minute period until everyone suddenly has t4s out the ass. Towers probably need some kind of decreasing resistance thing based on overall objectives taken
>>542742707>you can also just double jump to avoid it completelyLies or its hitbnox is broken>>542740491Idk about ''other mobas'', but Dota2 has comeback mechanics through comeback gold, fortify and buyback
>>542744227who's more nerfed, driftoid or bepoop
>>542744502Paradox
>>542744438offer's rescinded m8, back to lane
>>542744502Seven.
>>542744502Vindonkeydick
>got the first lane partner in like 7 matches that's actually willing to trade health with the enemyMelee's back on the menu boys (they got omega shit on)
Anti-carry this, anti-carry that. What hero is anti-support? I need to tech paigecucks and kevliniggers a lesson they'll never forget
>>542745608Drifting, Hazing, Abraming, etc.
>>542745608Drifter. Mark her, click ult, shit on her before ult ends
>in a “meatheaded Billy and cowardly Vindicta” lane (I’m the Vin)>ping shop and step away to go buy>notice them fighting in the minimap>Noooooo Billy stop I’m not th->double killMy apologies
>>542745608any gank god rapes support cucks
Being behind in Souls feels so dogshit, you can make the correct play and still lose purely because you were behind in stats
>>542745918billy either is the most retarded brooler you've ever seen or the most retarded brooler you've ever seen but he somehow keeps getting away with 1v2-4s
Why is Billy allowed to be a better Abrams outside of literally Inituate 1 and eternus 6?
>Enemies killed all 6 of us in late game>During the 50 seconds respawn, instead of rushing to midboss & get the urn to get a huge comeback souls, they just slowly push out all 3 lanesNoobs really deserve to lose.
>>542746308Abrams survives longer 1v6 and initiates more consistently without instantly dyingBilly kills people better in 1v2sAbrams' CC is better overallBilly has a better wombo combo with aoe ultsThey have different roles
>>542746308I tend to dominate games as Abrams but can't do shit as Billy so I dunno.
>>542746424Okay, cool, but that only matters in Eternus 6.For every other rank Billy is better.
>>542746308billy plays nothing like abrams besides the fact they both are close quarters, both have a different functionality from their kitwhere does this "billy is better/worse abrams" even come from
>>542746723Stop being retarded. Abrams is actually allowed to initiate on a whole team. Billy fucking dies if he goes in on more than 3 people. If a Billy is running over your team, grab the urn and force a real fight rather than letting him just do 6 back to back 1v1s. When a Billy seeds 6 people stacked his instincts scream to ult when his brain should be telling him to fuck off. It's why Billy is such a coinflip heroAbrams on the other hand is always allowed to do his job unconditionally. Just less flashy
My shorthand for meme buildmaking is taking a stat page from the wiki, using the sources list, then plugging it into the calculator For example, flat hp is pretty good on Mina because her base hp is lowest, so I open >https://deadlock.wiki/HealthPlug the items that look the best for her into here >https://mutex.gg/calculator/hero/63/minaBingo bango, I have a Mina build where every item is providing a targeted stat and I didnt go crazy reading the shop a hundred times
>>542746743he's probably the same anon from a thread or two ago that believes Abrams is bad in the middle ranks "because teammates don't follow his initiatives" but God-like in initiate and eternus
Whatever, I'm going to go have more 23/1 Billy games instead of talking to you dumbfucks then.
>>542747282Beat you to it (with some drifting too)I'd still prefer Abram's survivability come endgame. All the 23/1 games come from brooling in the enemy jungle rather than actual big fights
>>542747282Actual Billy typed this
>>542747282*William
>>542746308>Billy: ugly furfag>Abrams: sexy barachadYour comparison is objectively wrong
>>542745660>>542745694Going to run counter to this advice, the only support Drifter is any good at killing is McGinnis since his item of choice (Hunter's Aura) is very useful against her especially, and her escape tool is actually kind of bad for avoiding him since if he's marked her he just TPs over the wall.Meanwhile Paige and Kelvin don't really give a shit about their fire rate being nuked and both can be tanky enough (Paige via barrier) to just walk away from him if he jumps them if they don't think they can kill. Ivy does care about the fire rate and isn't very tanky but she does have the most "Nah, I'd live" ult in the entire game so she too can just decide to leave at her whim.Drifter's actual targets are squishy carries who want solo lane farm for 10 minutes.
When Yamato gets a visual update I kinda want to see her become a yakuza Youkai of some sort
>>542747873Typed all that when you forgot the reason he counters them is because he blinds them and makes them unable to cast their fucking shit on their teammates that are being raped nigga
Why isn't calico like THIS instead?Does Valve not know what gamers want?
>>542748346Why hasn't Vyper graphically SA'd Paige yet?Does Valve not know what gamers want?
>>542747873>the only support Drifter is any good at killing is McGinnisShe's actually the one that'll survive the best if she just buys fucking Ethereal like every other high level player, since her turrets will kill you and she can block you off when you back away>since his item of choice (Hunter's Aura) is very useful against herI don't run Hunter's. Gun Drifter is old. Hybrid's where it's at and Enduring is better for speed while being half the cost>and her escape tool is actually kind of bad for avoiding him since if he's marked her he just TPs over the wallEveryone's escape tool is shit against Drifter. He's always faster than you and can just hold his 2 until you actually press it>Meanwhile Paige and Kelvin don't really give a shit about their fire rate being nukedThe former's health gets nuked in 2 seconds, barrier or no, and the latter just gets blasted 3 times while not being able to do anything back. Please put me in the fucking bubble alone with you bro I'm begging you>Ivy does care about the fire rate and isn't very tanky Ivy is a DPS boss. Support Ivy isn't real>Drifter's actual targets are squishy carries who want solo lane farm for 10 minutesDrifter camps enemy jungle to 1v1 literally anyone except maybe Billy and, if you just don't want a long fight, AbramsSkill issue. Just build hybrid so you can blast the squishies and sustain-trade the tanks. Hunter's is a meme just fucking people in 1 claw little bro
>>542748480This but Geist to Mina
>>542748346why haven't you swallowed a gun yet?
>>542748480SA'd?Sorry, I'm not up on yurifag lingo.
>>542748956That sounds kinda painful...Guns are kinda big and oddly sharp in places...Sorry, but pass.
>>542748972Sexually AssaultedI know I can say rape on here, I don't like saying rape
>>542749172Ah, well then: yes, please!
>>542749172say the word lil bro
>>542748346Yeah uhh cool whatever kill yourself
It just hit my birthday and I'm 30 nowGoodbye my skill and reflexes, I can feel it draining in real-time
>>542749545I'm 40, and still have a 130ms reaction time.Git Gud.
>>542749545I fear becoming 30 because I don't want to exclusively play Euro Truck Simulator and Civilization 5
>>542749775I'll rape you in 130ms
>>542746424>>542746308Billy's more of bruiser, and Abrams is more of a mitigation tank.Like other anon said, Billy strives better in 1v2 or 3 bc he doesn't have the mitigation to take on the whole team beyond an initiation, but what he lacks in tank he makes up for in OOMF. He can also heal a shitload and take on whole teams with his blasted active and lifestrike ready, or vamp burst for emergencies, but Abrams has an ability designed to make him harder to kill, so they're just different.
THE HUNT BEGINS
>>542749545just have a coffee
>>542750737Coffee makes me tired and has genuinely zero impact on my energy. I drink it exclusively for the metabolism boostI've heard it's a symptom of ADHD, but also from what my psych(s) have said, I don't have ADHD either
new thread?
>>542749775You're either 40 and too retarded to properly test your reaction or 40 and pathologically lying on an anonymous image board
>>542747971He didn't specify in team fights.>>542748503I hybrid Drifter too, Hunter's aura is not just about gun build, it makes them worse at fighting back and claws back some of our shitty m1 dps before we get more stacks. Also don't forget rend is melee damage based, guess what -bullet resist still affects?
>>542750257*carts you into a wall and my team blows you up* nothin personnel, drifter
>>542751042can't imagine being this much of a defeatist cuck that you have to attempt to drag down other people to your level like this
>>542749545time to hang up the shooters and play age of empires and emulate old jrpgs with the rest of us
>>542751319Confirmed retarded
>>542738426I found it a lot more fun once I hit high ascendant (now: e4). Real strategy, itemization, people I see in lobbies frequently and make friends with.
>>542751104I'm aware of why people go Hunter's, but it's still mostly a gun thing. Spirit, Surge of Power, Tankbuster, and Arctic all do more than Hunter's in the same scenarios. 'Maybe' it matches Tankbuster but that's the closest you'll get. And if you want speed, both Enduring and Fortitude actually work in the middle of fightsIt's an overall good item, but it doesn't contribute as much to blasting cunts. It's a roaming item with a little bit of resists, but realistically, the resists won't matter if they die instantly
Gundoorman nerfs... WHEN?Why is this faggot allowed to deal 700 damage per headshot with a MASSIVE projectile hitbox at minute 10?
>>542752257Pretty privilege
>>542752257slow fire rate
>>542752257don't get hit by his stupid carttry strafing
>>542752257Weird how the gay bellhop can do this and the actual revolver wielding sheriff needs a headshot passive
Bread doko?
>>542752593>minor eldritch deity >vs...>sad woman with gunMakes sense to me
>>542752257...why do dumb niggers complain about the most gimmicky meme builds imaginable?
>>542752981Gundoor is genuinely less gimmicky than bell spam
>>542752981>Being able to blow niggas heads smoove off is a gimmickHuh?
>>542745608the carry characters
>>542752898le quirky eldritch deity is the most cringe shit in this game by a fucking mile
>>542752593Better luck (at picking a decent hero) next time!
>>542752257he fires once every six years
>>542753878I think the most cringe shit is people who don't know how to have fun
why is victor allowed to have his aura during etheral shift
>>542753909No. I will simply overcome.
>>542753878e...easy there tough guy I don't want any problem
>>542754113>no only my hero cheese is fair*stinks up your personal space while taking no damage*
>>542754113because it slows him to a crawl and you can just walk out of it?not even sure why they changed e shift to let people move during it to be honest.
>>542754103I have plenty of fun just not with this. It's the one thing about the setting that isn't fun.
>>542730408It increases the teleport range
Is Mirage any good in low ranks? I played dota for ever so I know the basics of how to use a teleport at least from a macro standpoint.
Explain this. Why does the outcome of the game depend solely on whether or not I win my lane?
>>542730408arcane surge doesn't works half the timeit does nothing for ivy's stone form and ult (test it yourself, same damage in both after surging the ability, also stone form's range indicator is super buggy with arcane surge)i reported it like 3 months ago and they haven't fixed it yet
>>542755190Yes I think hes good in all ranks, ladder or organized but low ranks tend to have no idea how to play him and he gets underestimated For example im pretty sure he can win any lane so stuff like this>>542755307Is in your favor
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>542757424>>542757424>>542757424
>>542755307counter example. I just had a 35 minute game where I stomped my lane, and my team allowed infernus to farm our side of the jungle uncontested for 20 minutes, including slots, and push up to yellow base towers without a response. I wasn't playing an overpowered character, so it's impossible to kill him 1v1 unless he's low, since he can just walk away or chase and stun me. Game completely ruined because 5 members of my team completely ignored half the map and kept losing a 5v6 and dying to random picks offs. I guess I'm going to join the others in this thread in uninstalling, because it isn't enjoyable trying to carry as characters that aren't bullshit tier.
>>542755307This is very weird because how does this work for the 3 other lanes? Are they lesser than 25% importance? Am I dumb and missing something here
