#6625 - the original overframe CHAD editionPrevious: >>542613751>SimulatorsAutomated:●EDOPro (PC/Android): https://projectignis.github.io/download.html●Master Duel (Multi-plat): https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449850Manual:●Duelingbook (online): https://www.duelingbook.comTag: “/dng/” Password: “vidya”; on EDOPro, specify server.Genesys Duels: MR5, TCG, Custom Rules: No Links/Pend/EMZ/Pend Zones>LinksRulebook: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/Wiki: https://yugipedia.comProbability Calculator: https://yugioh.fyiStock Market: https://yugiohprices.comDatabase: https://www.db.yugioh-card.comMisc Info: https://www.formatlibrary.comBlog:https://yugiohblog.konami.com/Alt Format:https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/genesys/>BanlistsTCG: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/list_2025-09-15/ (Sep 15/Next List: TBA)OCG: https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=2341 (Oct 1/Next List: Jan 1)>DecklistsOCG: https://roadoftheking.com https://tonamel.com/competitions?game=yugioh_ocgTCG: https://ygoprodeck.com/category/decks/tournament-meta-decks>NewsJP: https://yugioh-starlight.comEN: https://ygorganization.com>Upcoming SetsOCG:●Burst Protocol (Oct 25)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 25)●Terminal World 3 (Nov 22)●DUELIST BOX -Prismatic Summon- (Dec 20)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - Charmer (Jan 24)●Blazing Dominion (Jan 24)●LIMIT OVER COLLECTION -THE PROTAGONISTS- (Feb 28)●LIMIT OVER COLLECTION -THE RIVALS- (Mar 20)TCG:●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 24)●Legendary 5Ds Deck (Nov 7)●Phantom Revenge (Dec 4)●Burst Protocol (Jan 23)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - Spirit Charmers (Jan 23)>Events●/dng/ Friday Night Tourney 4 (TBA)●/dng/ League S1 (Week 6, Oct 12-Oct 19):https://challonge.com/dngleagueseason1
Pendulums are the funniest cards ever.Them being designed before the power creep gotten this bad was a miracle since they would be the most annoying thing ever.
>new anime >pandering collectors >genesys
I just want to see Yugimanz.
>>542700615>since they wouldSo you weren't around for PePe.Why do you praise a format you didn't experiment?
>>542700829I would argue that yummy is way better of a deck then Pepe ever was.
I hope i do not make this a threadly reminder because i truly cannot be arsed with caring for the well being of this general's userbase, but i still cling to the stupid hope that at the bare fucking miniscular diminutive minimum, people here learn to not misplace their retard faith and hold high expectations for the overframes.I seriously mean it, i am sure you tards got real YGO cards and as such, you do read the big white KONAMI logo in the top right corner. And if you haven't, go ahead and fucking read it, read the name of KONAMI and remind yourself of the company your dumb ass will give money to if you are going to be a millenial sóyfacing scumfuck about overframes having an inch of artwork peeking out of the box.
In 2014, Konami introduced MR3, where the player going first could no longer draw a card during the first turn in order to balance out the advantage of going first.It was still more advantageous to go first at the time, but not by a landslide. The rule change even sparked some discussion about how decks good at board breaking could prefer to go second.Now, more than 10 years later, and a decade of poor card design choices, even with a card disadvantage the player going first can have an absurd win rate close to 80% during some formats.How do we fix this disparity again via a master rule update?>player going second starts with 6 cards>player going second can mulligan>you get one individual normal summon at each main phase, so player going second can use an extra summon
I don't care about full art cards or half done full art cards in either direction. Actually new alternate artworks, however...
>>542700450Wouldn't that just be using the Rush layout? Would be neat if they actually work the art around the stats on the top of the card.
>expectations>covers the text box ohhh you are a fucking subhuman i get it
>>542701101more turn 0 cardsalternatively stop playing advanced and play a format that isn't powercrept to the point of being unplayable
>>542701023Are you fucking retarded with this design?>>542701228Youre asking for too much retard
>>542701101They will bring in skill cards (the 1st turn doesn't get any) and handle them very irresponsibly
>>542701101>How do we fix this disparity again via a master rule update?we don'tBring back 1st turn drawBring back single-field spells (AG's and Kozmo won't become meta if you let them pop their field spells with another field spell)Bring back priority so shit like Rescue Rabbit dodges Imperm and VeilerAnd remove shuffling from the game completely, now all players start with 5 cards of their choice and the 1st turn drawFuck you good night thank you much for your service.
you will seethe at pendulums foreverpendulum won
>>542701340>Are you fucking retarded with this design?It's what the pokeshill thinks its good card design that'll save YGO, blame him.
>>542701449Damn bratty American...!
The second funniest thing about pendulums is how hard they’ve abandoned actually pendulum summoning as a mechanic in favour of just using the scales as a way to give cards another set of effects and cheat them onto the field easier. The number one funniest thing is, of course, genesys telling the mechanic to rope itself.
Again Pic related is the best solution and still YGO at core
>>542701381>now all players start with 5 cards of their choicet. exodia player
>>542701431You, yes you, go use your ai shit to generate Mystic Elf and Dark Elf having a boob-off breast pressing competition. 2000 ATK vs 2000 DEF
>>542700645>new animeReally sure on a new TV anime that isn't Rush revealed on Jump Festa?
>>542701101>too much disruption/handtraps>you need to run them or risk getting locked out of playing the game>the goal of the 1st player is setting up an unbreakable board or a board that can withstand removalyou can't fix card design with a master ruletrue yugioh died with CyDra
Are people still parroting the "yugioh cant do full art" meme?
>>542701101It tends to be from the current freedom of the boards themselves. That one or two monsters/cards can pretty much fill up the board by a single effect (Synchro Yummy monsters and that stupid SCHOOL e-tele spell. Snake Eyes fat dragon butt)
>>542701449>non canon filler garbo perfectp*nds lost l*nks lost Ritual WON>>542701736yes, specially after the flush retard at shueisha its gone and a leaker said long time ago a new anime was greenlight.
>>542701693I don't hate this, but it does show how pointless and absurd fullarts are because riddle me this shit, what purpose does a fullart do for card artwork where 90% of the monster's body is shown? Nothing new would be added and it'd be a wholly unnecessary artwork expansion.
>>542701736I'm honestly expecting it to be just the Charmers Youtube vids and not much else.
>>542701431Need.
>>542701693Quite literally just look at Rush's Overframe designs retard.
>>542701697Yes, best outcome, two players rolling the dice, open exodia and then discard said exodia pieces by playing a tie-breaker normal game of YGO with 35 card decks now.
>>542701970Man, Pokemon card layouts are pretty bad.
Aleister and Petingcessoeur.
>>542701736It's better to not expect anything this year before something actually happens
>>542701927Yugioh its still gameplay focus at the core so full arts its fucking retarded , specially when destroys the coloring layeout of cards. Confusing people even more.
>>5427014312000 defense booty
>>542701970>>542702094
>>542701381>Bring back 1st turn draw>Bring back single-field spells >Bring back priority holy fucking retard, kys
>>542701970unionically DOGSHIT and problematic for tournaments
>>542702348That's not fa
>>542702219Yugioh oddly has the best art and layout of the card games.
Time to print Subspace Battle for the Heroes and Rivals products.
>>542702368wat
>>542702368outfuckingskilled
>>542702368go the fuck back to trannycord you faggot nigger
>>542702368kottonbros...
>«Why is that dragon coming to life? What is that guy's other half, Aluber, doing to my other half, the Assassin? How many centuries have I spent building up that world since entering this land? This is but a prelude to my scenario. From now on, thousands of corpses shall form mountains, the blood of billions shall flow as rivers, and I shall welcome the god that guides me to his throne created with the arts of death.» >>Maximus' very last spoken words were him seething at Sanctifire (Albaz & Ecclesia), Aluber and Ad Libitum (his other half who betrayed him)Did he deserve it?
>>542702489Fa?
>>542702504But who should take the GX rival spot?
Post your Genesys deck right now or else I'll summon Man-Eater Bug in attack position!
>she fushed with her dolphin The support its Gishki LMAO
>>542702368Bozocord is wild, huh?
>>542702621yes, he killed his entire country
>>542702621Looking at his hands, I don’t think he’s dead.
>>542702671your Genesys deck right now or else I'll summon Man-Eater Bug in attack position!
>>542702646Full Art.
>>542702650Would be some shit if they pulled a Legendary Gold Box and gave the spot to Johan.
>>542702680How does sex work for these bottomless people?
>>542702368YGO and Pokemon comp players are competing to see who can be the most disgusting playerbase.You never hear about that kind of shit from Duema players.
>>542702368Can you call yourself a YGO player if you don't use your humongous bellyflaps and love handles as a duel disk?
>>542702894Oh. You’re a Magic player.
I summon lizard soldier in attack position.Your turn, duelist.
>>542702934Because it's dead in the West
>>542702671Why did he do it?
>>542702909Dolphin pussy
>>542702621Is that official writing?
Rush wonNew anime soonYou are going seething forever
>>542702621so what was maximus plan in the first place anyway? get 666 saints, open up the hole then what
>>542702650Chazz so they'll print Beetrons and make them part of the Ojama/Armed Dragon/VWXYZ pile.
>>542701023You meant this, right?
>>542702574kotton wishes he was half as good as mr. heart from philly
>tranny avatarfag posting againDiapercord needs to be banned
What's a good World Championship to play? Just looking for a fun single player campaign, I've played the hell out of 2008.
>>542703180Unofficial translation of official writing.
the trannoid who greenlight flush and daipa its gone so no , you lost. YGO anime returns to MR this year
>>542702493 Best art and layout of the card gamesThat's digimon
>>542703180It's from the valuable book's translation, yes>>542703242Becoming a god
>>542703362It's the best we can get unless you want to wait forever for Branded to get added to MD solo mode
>>542703294
The jobber.
>>542703376generic bandai sloppa so no
>>542703272All shit
>>542703734naizuri and paizuri
>>542703734>gets a hand reveal effect>still dogshitlmao
>>542703734the queen of trickstars.
>>542703598I remember having a lot of fun with this one
>>542703294This one is amazing with the Battle city arc
>>542667530Couldn't they make the duels multi-parter episodes like how Duel Monsters or the other YGO shows handled their duels?
>>542702909they're (usually) able to unfuse afterwards so you probably aren't fucking a fish unless you are wild like that
>>542703734>WAAAAAHA WHY SHE DIDN'T BEAT SPECTRE!!>WHO CARES IF THEMATICALLY IT MAKES NO SENSE!!Her fanboys are the worst
>>542703242>>542703413It was about establishing the kingdom of Heaven. Maximus and Ad are the Divinity and Humanity of God (the Son of Man).Albaz and Aluber are probably the Judas and Satan (betrayer).The 666 saints are the churches meant to be combined together into the bride.In other words… Ad might curb stomp Aluber unexpectedly after finding Ecclesia’s replacement. Take the fusion powers for himself, resurrect Maximus as a complete entity, and take Quem for himself.
>>542704312Spectre was a better character than her anyways.
>>542701431Make one for Dark Elf.
>>542704441Crow was better than Aki
>>542704312>Her fanboys are the worstDamn and I thought Aki fans were bad enough on blaming Crow for forming the 5D's trio.
>>542704190wait no its this one Loved the game as a kid
>>542704506Crow was better than Rua and Ruka.
>>542703598That's the one I said I played... but yes very good game.>>542704564Played this too, I miss it, but not enough to get the early gays collection.Are any of the WC2009-2011s good? I feel an itch to synchro summon.
>>542704517I kinda get Aki fanboys at least Blue angel faggots are a different beast
>>542704887Nah, it’s the same cringe, don’t make excuses for one because you like it
Any ritual archetypes that don't tribute to ritual summon?
I feel like ghost hag simps and go stans (if there are any lol) have more reason to be mad that pre rokket revolt revolver beat them than blue jobber losing to spectre
>>542704957Ritual archtype btw
>>542704517>blaming Crowbruv we have PROOF that garbo was a villain at first and his dogshit """""dragon"""""" got shoehorned
>>542705170This is just a glorified ROTA
>>542704224No because DM duel pacing applied to modern times with having to watch combos and link climbing like Vrains would be suicidal. Sometimes something simply hits a practical wall in how far it can go before it starts to slide down to being unwatchable. Something like Shun vs Dennis in rhe FC is about as good as it gets in dueling for 44 minutes but not feeling like the seams are heaving during the duel combos
Ruka's main deck monsters pre-Legacy Support.
>>542701701THE SHOWDOWN
>>542705449There is still a lot to retrain huh
>>542705449>Sunny Pixie>Spellcaster instead of Fairy???????
>>542705449The face of someone that committed war crimes.
>>542704957rokketborrel>not a ritualcan be pre preppedhas multiple ways of ritual (heavy interlock, double triggerritual monster recycles itselfit's a ritual archetype
>>542705461Nice but also damn, i don't think butts work like that, that ai model looks like its trained on bimbofied proportions.
>>54270267193 points
>>542705461If Mystical Elf having a big butt is for defenses, what's Dark Elf's 2K attack represent?
>>542705976Boobs
>Maximus has the holes in his hands as the Son of Man does from his crucification. He comes from another land.>Ecclesia is pretty much 100% rejected as a saint. There needs to be a replacement.>Quem wonders about in a black dress and a solemn expression. As if she is in a funeral.>Ad Libitum serves a master he hates, Aluber. Notably… Longyuan was a secret Dogmatika and eventually turns on his own mortal masters. >Icejade Aegirine is also in a kingdom of ruins. Standing too comfortably by Longyuan’s gazing and opened eyes. Being the only one left.What if Ad Libutum woes Aegirine into Ecclesia’s spot while Albaz and Ecclesia are distracted by 317’s games.
>>542705170>literally tributes to summonBros?
>>542705303Eat a dick drgreen
>>542701693Honestly this feels too boring after knowing what Over Rush cards are like.>>542705449What ever happened to the one guy who wanted Luna to get a full deck?
>>542706031>What if Ad Libutum woes Aegirine into Ecclesia’s spotAh yes, bring the crazy little girl who's currently spending every second turning Longyuan's foreskin into a fucking sea urchin to the guy who suffered a Joker moment from another crazed little girl that's half cat half Nuclear warhead manufactorer, what could possibly go wrong?
>>542706031proofves that ad lib hates aluber?
>>542706360>Over Rush cards are like.garbage that is closer to duema than YGO you goddam trannoid?
>>542705170Does Mistva benefit from any ritual support?It feels like an utterly fraudulent ritual monster, if it was just a regular semi-nomi monster its function wouldn't be any different.
>>542706591None whatsoever, the Maximus simp just wants there to be some universe where he wasn't a complete jobber.
>>542701943correct she is necessary
>>542706591Anon is headcanoning because he can’t accept Ad Lib throwing Maximus under the bus
>>542706762Are you the Fleur fanboy?
>>542706792Need to plap her with my beatstick.
>Blocking the effect text Why are you people absolute SUBHUMAN?
>>542707048Pokemon.
>>542706360>tranny that shits himself wants kodomo trashWhy am I not surprised?
Deep fried.
>reading lots of japanese post >crying because Konami caved in they are a bunch of purityfags...just like us....
>>542706031>distracted by 317’s games317th Saint is Mina who betrayed Maximus. Maximus literally complaint about her as one of his failures in his side episode. She was never evil in the first place.
>>542706792Jesus christ
>>542702254>crash into her repeatedly>gift of the mystical elf>crash into her some morewhat more could a man want
>>542707196*retarded blindfags who don't know a good card frame when they see one
abyss sequel>shuraig + fleur offsprings>pregnant fleur>pregnant kitt>cartesia came back seperate from ecclesia>also pregnant with albaz offspring>cuckqueen ecclesia>aluber still in his chair posing and smiling (bro do something already)
>>542706813No
Mystical Elf is far more beautiful than Yugi's other female monster, Dark Magician Girl.
>>542706031>Longyuan was a secret DogmatikaHe wasn't. He was just an evil dickhead who wanted to be head honcho of the Swordsouls and opportunistically sided with the Despias.
>japs tell me the game is fantastic >they cut 80% of the content for the western release>translation never fuck me i guess and fuck KOA fucking incomptecence
>>542704464you got it
>>542707497>they cut 80% of the content for the western releaseWhy did they cut the content to this extent?
>>542707497It's a watered down Tagforce. Just play Tagforce or the WCS games instead.
>>542707921https://ygorganization.com/tcg-world-duel-carnival-news/Each character from the show is playable and has their own role and story within the game in the Japanese version.Outside Japan, the game has had a lot of content removed. There are no Duelist Profiles, no Ending Pictures, no Photos, all Sleeves and Mats are unlocked from the start and there is no Device or Database modes. The only playable characters are Yuma, Astral, ZEXAL, Tori, Reginald, Kite, Dr. Faker, Vetrix, Trey, Quattro, Alito & Konami-kun (aka Tag Force's Hat Guy).Just fucking kill me for being a zexal fan outside japan
>>542706360Can we ban this fag already?
>>542707871Nice. She was my go to beater in Tag Force 1's early game.
>>542706762>>542706796Look at the theming of Dogmatika/Branded>Longyuan is separated from his own people by being a believer. >Fallen is the title given to Albaz. He is a Fallen creation. And Aluber is themed from Satan, the red dragon.>Ecclesia and the saints are supposed to be nuns.>Maximus and Ad Libutum are the same man/God. Divided by their unique natures. As Christ is. Fully God. Fully Man. >“Render therefore unto Caesar (Aluber, Swordsoul) the things which are Caesar's (the world); and unto God (Maximus/Ad) the things that are God's (666 saints, Dogmatika, Longyuan).”> “And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God (Ad Lib), why hast thou forsaken me (Maximus)?”>Jesus (Ad Lib) surrendered himself (Maximus) to the unbelievers to die by their hand.There is material to study from to understand what Branded is inspired by and why the creators of it are telling the story this way.
Kino...
>>542707497I remember someone made a fan translate English patch for the JP version
>>542709278Our heroes!
>>542709390Thats arc v force special i think
>>542707494No he isn’t.Him and snake were always working with the Dogmatikas. It’s just one of them became a crazy monster longer before the story begins.
>>542706391He got the crystal from her and given it to Aluber.
>>542710470>jobber who lost to Chengying*yawns*
Icarus AttackTime PendulumgraphDestroy Phoenix EnforcerRitual Beast SteedsMurakumo
>>542707272Mystical Elf has the 2000 defense ass.Dark Elf has the 2000 attack tits. The 1000 life point cost of her attack is actually you being smothered by her fat tits.
>the duelists with the most duels in Arc-V>Yuya 46>Shun 14>Gongenzaka 12>Sora = Sawatari 10Say something nice about themReiji is such a disgrace of a rival
Based shit v rewatch gave us something good
>>542712360Cute and funny!
broken
>>542712802>so yeah i summon this card an activate effect i win the duel >can i read the effect? >sure bro
What if you nibiru elves and summon the token in the middle zone
>>542713173They remove it by using Link Spider
>>542713251Erm the deck has a Synchrolock on the Continuous Spell>>542713173Early Baronne
>>542713356why did solfachord succeed while this failed hard?
>>542713438>solfachord >sucks dragon's cock (Zarc's, to be specific)>vaalmonica>sucks Bagooska & Engraver's cockgo figure
>>542713438>why did solfachord succeedMaking a very loaded statement here
>>542711514swordsoul xioaliang when? can't just namedrop him like that
>>542713773You want this snake’s past form?
>>542713879Sure, it would be neat to get his non-jobber piece of shit form
>>542713919they could do another cosmic blazar situation, who knows
>>542713879Remember that because this guy shows up, Dogmatika would have to be Despia’d in the 25th October Episode in order for Fleurdelis and Dogmatika survivors to spank him in the November episode.
>>542713879>the anime ends with them killing the snake >the post credit scene is the CLOWNi wanted the icejade arc so bad...
>>542714475He doesn’t die, anon.He is too OP.
>>542714547Can't wait for the reactions to this.
>>542714547>>542714951Arc v is hilarious
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/122863720/#122871055reading this thread makes the laught every single time lmao
>>542715817>It's been 10 years since thenTime takes no prisoners.
Crow is the best ArcV character.
>shun has THREE towers bosslmao
I do appreciate that the KoA rep stating that KoJ has some influence over the TCG advanced banlist basically also affirms my theory that KoA gets some say over modern TCG exclusives such as the concept, general gameplay themes, and the first draft, but the OCG gets final say on artist and balancing, and that they have more control over them than when archetypes like BA were designed. Which is why TCG exclusives typically lean onto more western inspirations like Jurrasic Park or the American Silent Hill movies or some guy played Dark Souls and have generally similar TCG anachronisms such as their lack of standard monster negation that would let them dodge Nibiru, their flashy nuke-based finishers like Deep Beyond, Veidos, Tistina, etc, and their general gameplay style trying to be like a Fire King-esque grindy advantage-accumulating deck, and also why so many TCG exclusives get a card you literally cannot explain, because whatever original synergy was drafted got shotdown and packfiller is what was left
>>542717116Also yes I know Dark Souls is a Japanese game, I mean like Denial Deity Dotan and Ashened come across as an American playing a Soulsborne game than a Japanese playing them, which is why the latter has Pompeii as the secondary theme
The moment Genesys gains good traction is the moment KOA gains more powers on KONAMI decissionsLike there is no reason why KOA is fucked with KOJ vision of a broken game. Master duel being controlled by KOJ is fair game i guess.
>unironically sucking Jewart's and Jerome's cock nowEmbarrassing
>the gaijin getting uppity and thinking they will ever have any sayIf you don't want to be beholden to some Japanese exec in another country then make your own game :).
>>542717497>>542717843It's odd when you imply KoJ is capable of any wrongdoing some fags will get really angry about itIf Konami of Japan told them to get sodomized they'd graciously do it just to spite Jewart or something
>>542717342KoJ has the final say on what KoA suggests, but that's the thing. KoA still has to suggest what to put on / remove from the banlist. You can clearly see how there are still useless stuff hit in the TCG that have been freed in the OCG already. That do nothing btw.
>>542717994Do you think if KoA suggested moving 20 cards from Forbidden to Limited KoJ wouldn't throw a shitfit regardless if most of them are decisions KoJ themselves made for the OCG?
>>542718162>KoJ unbanned these cards already>if we unban them, they'll get mad at usYou're just making excuses for Jewart now.
>>542718515>actually mr. limit vfd/scythe/beatrice/sp is a very normal well adjusted person and would never sideeye seeing 15 cards moving from the forbidden list to limited
>>542717986Newfags like you know nothing of Tewart's wrong-doing and evil
What the fuck is this girl's problem?
>>542718743>Mr. Slant-eyed Nipkike wants to sell cards as long as possible before hitting them>this means he wants to have cards rot forever in the banlist
It brings me immense joy to get confirmation that KoJ tells Tewart and co. to shut the fuck up and sit in the cuck chair on a regular basis.
>>542718818Actually, Tewart is only just a greedy cheapskate with a vendetta of clown gas. You can blame most game design faults on the OCG thoughever.
>>542718915vaalmonica elvennote? could it work?
>>542718937So why would Mr. Slant-eyed Nipkike approve of unlimiting Partyboat, or Auroradon, or Sovereignity or whatever if they're currently not being supported by current product?
Jewart made dumb handtraps during the 5Ds era and the OCG refuses to ban them, because its why they can make cool combo decks
>>542718962Do not speak if you don't have any idea about the dark era of upper deck when Tewart and his criminal friends got the freedom to run the game however they please
>>542719264Most of those decisions were greedy and shady business practices thoughbeit
>>542719148To make the shilling less obvious when they do print support. Jerome literally admitted that KoA has their own reasoning of banning Electrumite. The japs are retarded with designing shit that breaks the game further and further, but you are trying to give too much leeway to KoA as if they aren't full of shit (e.g. Speed Duel).
KoA shill really working overtime, huh?How much?
>>542719453Bro literally was selling fake ygo cards in the past but refuses to bring over official imitation ones
>>542719603meant for >>542719113
>Konami of America is actually just greedy, engages in shady business practices, and constantly cuts corners to save money. The quality of gameplay and how cards are designed is mostly KoJ's fault>s-shill!
NeosCHADS
>>542719872It's mostly to the guy who thinks that KoJ would not approve of KoA unbanning cards in the TCG even though said cards are already unbanned in the OCG.
>Rayesis shotguns purulia in draw phase, super giddy abd excited, thinks Xe won >Takes a looong while waiting for me to normal summon>Realizes i made Xer go secondKekkypoopy
>>542719603"we banned electrumite because every pend deck would be electrumite"is he wrong tho?
>>542719453Those atrocities were enough to invite a direct intervention from KoJ side. Do you think they want to add more jobs to their plate? Waito piggu are always too self-important. KoJ simply stepped in because they couldn't afford to let the criminals do whatever they want. Adding even more work to yourself just to spite the western pigs? Know your place. Know that your existence means little
>>542720154*Go first
>>542720129>let us unban 15 cards>no>but they're unbanned in your format>no, you have to unban them one at a time really slowlyKoA probably only cares about exactly Electrumite staying banned
The one thing I’m wondering about is Konami’s direction with Branded.Like>Besides Dogmatika, will Konami actually make support for Springans and Tri-Brigade to use “Fallen of Albaz” ED monsters appropriately, like a “Beast” typed Fallen of Albaz retrain or something?
>>542720265So why hasn't KoJ intervened with KoA's continual rarity bumping of staples, the poor staying value of boxes, or the cornercutting of cardstock quality? It sounds to me like KoJ is completely fine with KoA's greedy practices and only found it concerning when KoJ was getting stiffed on the bill
>>542720392>one at a time really slowly>fishborg is still rottingkeep saying it I guess, maybe it will come true eventually
>>542720531Japan are more Jewish lol
>>542720531You are the one who assumes KoJ bothers. Just as stated above, for the most part, KoA is free to do whatever as long as they don't break the law. Only a fool like you would get hurt by KoA's decisions and blame it on KoJ
>>542720392Bruh, they've unbanned cards that are younger than cards that are still banned. What you're saying is really an unbelievable scenario with what has happened to the game.
>>542720531Because that doesn't break the law unlike what KoA had done before they stepped in?
>>542717248Dotan is an exceptionally japanese card though, in concept and naming
>>542720531Konami is an enormous multinational multi-lingual conglomerate. I highly doubt that the different branches interact much or have any idea what goes on in their respective regions.
I live under a rock was enneacraft too "honest" to be good in terms of meta?
>>542727860It’s a counter based pendulum flip deck, why the fuck would you expect it to be remotely good?
>>542728489Because it can easily play second with the amount of board breakers it can slot and is resilient to handtraps in general
>>542727860The Level 1s being mandatory and thus not really being able to disrupt is really annoying since it means you only really have the Level 9sThe fact that Dracotail and Mitsurugi can both easily chainblock around Enneacraft effectsThe lack of answers to Evenly or DrollThe lack of pressure it puts on your turn so your opponent can just wait until next turn comes around to start chewing through the boardThe general fact it feels like a Turn 3/4 deck to get the ball rolling
>>542727860>>542728848Also the fact the combo really needs 2 searchers or something in hand to do what you really want
25 players:1st. Yummy2nd. Apophis K9Top4. Orcust MalissTop4. K9Top8. Primite Apophis - https://i.imgur.com/ivbJ2Ro.png
>>542730324>Apophis K9B-BroW-Why did Odion betray us like this....
Medius the Slut
Enjoying burst protocol desu
>Konami consneeded and bent the knee so now the game is getting full artsHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
>>542731749Slop deckSlop fieldSlop game
Where is my new ruin queen
>>542732309Kill yourself Soratranny
>Synchro that end on multiple negateWoooah....
>>542733647Xyz that end on multiple pops though
>>542732920>YAAAASS RUIN ME, QUEENkys simp
Can we ban Sora and his Discord already? He's been doing this shit for 2 weeks.
>>542732309>>542582846
the ritual that cheatsthe fusion that cheatsthe synchro that negatesthe xyz that floodgatesthe pendulum that is a card of all timethe link that slops
>unsummonable in its own full spellcaster deckwhat did konami mean by this
I want to see Medius cheat on Finmel...
>>542735370They're planning on retraining Pegasus' deck as Illusions as they were always meant to be.
>>542735370PEGASUS SUPPORT SOONTRUST THE PLANThat, or we will get actually Nightmare deck being standalone
>>542735370Its deck is Chimera
>>542735563nah, i dont think soThis shit name is literally Nightmare-Eyes, instead of Millenium-Eyes
toon support doko
>>542719264tbf being a greedy criminal can still be consistent with thinking the approachability of the game to any newbies or curious randoms has grown walls that are too tall, making him imagine an image of future potential money that slips from his grasp
Ygo could use a new summoning mechanic.
>>542735697Why would that matter when the Pegasus support names "Eyes Restrict" and not Millennium?
>>542735370This is obviously a prelude to an illusion relinsuished support wave so the deck becomes both types.Inb4 the support is so good you don't even want to make this piece of shit and make other fusions instead
>>542736107Maximum summon would work just fine in ygo.It's like pendulum but instead of monster x spell it's monster2
Would be kino if they do>DSF (first banned Synchro)>Zenmaity (first limited and banned Xyz lol)>Scout (first hit Pendulum)And they gave the retrained cards new archetype support, so Relinquished.dek, Demise.dek, Reactors, Wind-Ups and Qlis all got support.The hit links (Firewall is the first limited, Summon Sorc is the first banned) are all cringe linkslop so who cares
>>542736417Maximum should be like an additional ability on monsters where if you have all the pieces on board they combine into the one Maximum monster rather than "You have to somehow summon all of these at the same time"Kinda like how Duel Master's God Link does it IIRC
>>542736618That's just link/contact fusion.
>>542732309>bent the knee to rush duels>a card game they also produceyou can even make a good story.
>>542736417>maximum exodia>going to be weaker than just having each part in the hand
>>542736789Not really, if you have one guy out, he only has his normal monster effect, but if you have his associated pieces out, he combines and gets the Maximum stats and additional effectYou might argue it's like colinking but colinking isn't as flashy and also no one really cares about colinkingIt'd be like asking for every mechanic to be erratad into different flavors of contact fusion
>>542736417Maximum would be better in TCG since you can just make the pieces search each other and ygo loves redundant effs anyway. A blueprint would be>Piece 1 if summoned, return to hand then summon piece 2 from declk>Piece 2 if summoned, return to hand then summon piece 3 from deck>Piece 3 if summoned, return to hand then summon piece 1>Any piece gets you all 3 piecesBoom 1 card maximum
Just make so that if you Maximum Summon, all the monster zone was used, and you cannot used any of them for summoning material
Maximum should be summoned in a new center monster zone. Make it lock you of ED.
>>542737348Out of *EMZ is what i meant to say.You either use the Maximum Zone or Extra monster zone never both
Surprised RUSH don't have gate guardian maximum yet
Most of my locals have started to offer genesys. Let's see how long advanced will last.
Ngl I love playing Runick the intended wayHaving to deck out your opponent is so fun
Maximum is literally just pendulum
Hanguang & Xiaolian swordsoul cards soon
>>542712332Tou already had lots of pendulum performapal packfiller, do you want even more of that? Reiji is certainly not lacking in Maindeck and extra deck and his anime record isn't that bad.
>>542738283Not really, the intention is different 9/10 mats you shit out with a pend summon are fodder for combo slopMaximum summon is you just summon one big guy and play tower defense.
Rush duel x ygo crossover.
>>542738712I'd love this guy for yugioh
9 minutes...
...until pack filler
SOPHIA AND IRENE BROKEN R8NK SOON
>>542738843This thing reminds me of the time when there were more gloomy sci-fi or post-apocalypse themed anime many years ago
IT'S UP
IT'S DOWN
It's Genesys support
ITS GO AROUND
Jp doesn't care about genesys
Hopefully no waifucoal this time. Dragons or robots please.
If it isn't a cute girl, I don't see why I should care.
>>542738843what the fuck is that thing. why is it so damn unnerving?
BADONKEN
#blacked support
wtf it's insane>Captcha: NVJP0
You can only use one of this card name's effects and per turn, and only once per turn.: Send up to 2 Equip Spell Cards from your Deck to the Graveyard (up to 1 with the same name). : You can banish this card from your Graveyard, then target 1 face-up monster you control. Equip that monster with up to 2 Equip Spell Cards from your hand or Graveyard that it can equip (up to 1 with the same name). While that monster is equipped with an Equip Spell Card by this effect, all battle damage it inflicts on your opponent is single-damaged
It's him
>>542739329I miss the EVA clone era of anime, where everything was a pseudo-philosophic mess with neat imagery.
>>542739865>inflicts on your opponent is single-damaged... the what?
Confiscation GAWDS
>>542739946Halved
Armory SortingNormal Trap CardSend up to 2 Equip Spells with different names from your Deck to the GY. You can banish this card from your GY, then target 1 face-up monster you control; equip up to 2 Equip Spells with different names from your hand and/or GY that can be equipped to that monster. While those Equip Spells are equipped to that monster, battle damage inflicted to your opponent by that monster is halved. You can only use 1 "Armory Sorting" effect per turn, and only once that turn.
Random equip related packfiller fatigue
Konami hitting you with that one-two punch of the shittiest flip support you've ever seen, and also the shittiest equip support you've ever seen
>>542739865So how would this interact with Angelica's Angelic Ring?
>>542739815Shut up, common
Konami hitting you with that Flipshit, and that Equipshit, emphasis on the shit and all I wanna know is, where's the Qlips?
>>542740178Not legal.Angelica needs that monster already equipped. Both at the same time does not count.
>>542740178Same as anything else. Unless you are already equipped, you can't equip it. Assuming no equips, at the time its not a legal selection so you can't try it
>>542740330>>542740348Right okay then
>The meme trap is not even meme'ed enough
>>542740174Genesys support, trust
>>542740439So this is NK support?
>cyberdarknessdragon.jpg
>>542740434this is not jp080, this is a normal trap
XYZ Martha...R-ACE Fusion...
Actually what would you even send with it?Metalsilver and Raptimus?Mayowashidori and Arabesque?
>>542740538Those are for the stream along with the last anime deck
>>542739804>>542739865Shit card but only because its purple. All the cool memeshit you could do is too slow because you have to wait 2 turns before you can Equip what you sent on TOP of the initial wait because its a Trap, and by the time turn 3 rolls around you either already died or you've already won
>>542740487Copycat hero & his equip is better NK support than this.
>>542740556Axe of Despair, equip onto Summoned Skull
Okay but imagine an equipflip archetype to make use of all the dogshit equip/flip support they've been printing
>>542740684I guess you could do and send Cursed Bamboo Sword as well
>>542740719>Okay but imagine [abysmal dogshit]
>not even jp080 trapbruh how shit can bpro get?
Doom Z is for Genesys...
>>542740556
Dark lords and assault mode already make bpro a decent set for me.If you just wanna be a metatroon about it they threw mitsu support in there to shut you up
>>542705727So, generally speaking, NovelAI v4.5 has a better range of recognizable characters, while v4.0 tends to have less errors in my experience. 4.0 doesn't quite know Dark Elf (even though she's literally a palette swap of Mystical Elf, but...) so I had to use 4.5 for gens involving her. (Or maybe I'm just not very good at this and my excuses are invalid, who knows.)
>>542741193>Noble ArmsI wonder what creative names the random Noble Arms cards would've gotten had Noble Knights not made it an archetype
>only 1 potential support spell slotpurrelybros it's looking grim
Card is broken when Guardians get their support
>>542741024>imagine [abysmal dogshit]The problem is that I'm not imagining it because they're actively printing that shit
>>542741293>mitsu support?
>>542739893They also added some general variety to the kinds of atmospheres that anime attempted to create and show, like the concepts at the foundation gave the staff a more pushy reason to try harder
>>542741774the new RitualStill, jap seem to hoping on Odion train right nowhttps://yugioh-starlight.com/archives/59472458.html
>>542742056New Ritual is from Prismatic Summon box, not BPRO
>>542742056Nigger that's part of Prismatic Summon
>>542742056Just noticed they gave him dreads
>Burst Protocol
>>542701927Why is there no art of Vennominaga giving Judai paizuri rape?
Post your first impressions on this card.
>Even bbs delusing themself into Nightmare Magician is actually secret MC's aceWoahI didn't know that thing is infestedhttps://bbs.animanch.com/board/5731262/https://bbs.animanch.com/board/1840220/
>>542742335Manko support
>>542742056lmao what an idiot
>>542742335Too slow
>LIMIT OVER COLLECTIONWhat's next? OVER TOP ARCHIVE?
Burst Protocol is gonna close so many stores...Full Arts can't come soon enough
>>542742335It'd be too slow even if you could use both effects at the same time but reading it now it's even slower for some godforsaken reason.
>>542742339Why is it "delusion", yugioh cards do what if fanfiction scenarios all the time.Exodia cards are just what if yugi never lost emNu-Zarc cards are what if Zarc was redeemed/goodNightmare magician and his apprentice are just what if we had a protag that plays an illusion deck
>>542742308Akane is a whore
>>542742731Akane is the best OnK
This will make Mikanko meta trust me
>>542739802The first thing seen is the head and face, the brain in half a millisecond puts in its generalized prediction for what the body is supposed to look like from seeing a lot of dragon creatures from many things. But then you see something from a completely different category that also looks malnourished and not a healthy humanoid shape
>>542742339People have been talking about monsters with protagonist stats as hidden aces for ages. Do you not remember people talking this guy up as an anime ace? And Nightmare Magician is a flat out expy of Dark Magician
>armades is now a 1000 yen card thank to the elvennotes hype trainEngraver-sama...
>>542742339Illusions are cool but its a damn shame they are all nothingburgers or are just Chimera piles.
>>542743021>LIGHT Fiend... right, forgot about thatTewart wont dodge the issue again now
>>542743021Engraver must die
>>542743021Just overlay two fours like a normal person.
>>542743021The savior of YGO
>first we ban every single light fiend extra deck monster with generic mats and then we have to balance this attribute/type combination around the existence of fiendsmith for the rest of timePlease ban Requiem I am so fucking tired of this shit, it wouldn't be nearly as obnoxious if there was any reason to run him besides his retarded generic conditions and solely to buff out an endboard and recursion, let him only be used as 6 copies to ROTA for any of the LIGHT Fiend monsters
>>542701013Any combo deck in modern history is better than PePe. PePe didn't even have 1 card combos.
>>542743021>Moon is the problem, /dng/ said...
>>542743021From ¥100 to ¥1000. That a x10 in price
>>542743136tewart would first ban this, exciton, melomelody and underworld goddess than ban requiem
>>542743021Who is the gay guy at Konami that doesn't want to ban Requiem?
>>542742339Aren't they Yugi cards unironically? I remember a VA duel having Yugi play them
>>542742308>>542700328Apologize to the previous main set.
>>542743684>The only chase card is a fucking Yummysure thing, palsure thing
>>542743021Time to ban every LIGHT fiend besides requiem
>there is an alternative universe where we have a main game anime with a protag that plays a gigabased illusion deck with all the generic packfillers like heretical phobos, silhouhatte, master tao, tao tao, mokomoko, wax emissary, vouiburial and jongleur-ghoul illusionist and we don't live in itit's NOT FAIR bros
>>542744083In that same alternative universe, people hate the Illusion shilling the same as Cyberse
>>542743021AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEE
>Rokkets - Darklock (already a thing with Tracer)>Assault Mode - Synchrolock (already a thing with Sentinel)>Darklords - Fairy summonlock (in conjunction with their previous Fairy effectlock)>Fur Hire - Fur Hirelock>Archfiends - Archfiend EDlockIt's funny that all the substantial BPRO legacy support has a lock on it, and 3 of the 5 introduce new locks to decks that didn't have it. Core boosters that aren't necessarily meta-warping sets but instead give legacy support to a bunch of ailing archetypes are cool and all, but BPRO isn't even really that because almost all of it comes with "and also here's a lock because fuck you too nigger"
Link was/is/will be nigger of summoning typeshould never make them as generic as possible
i summon jinzo in attack position
>>542744356>Fur Hire - Fur Hirelockthe support is really good and i get that a restriction is kinda necessary but was it really necessary for it to be a full lock? like at least just make it an ED fur hire lock
>BPRO has the next tier 0 archetype>Rest of the set is shitEvery time.
>>542744547I activate TRANSaction rollbACK targeting elemental burst.
>>542743136i dont get it why is this card broken
you were telling me elevennotes were shit 3 days ago
>>542744356The only one that actually matters in any way is the archfiend one.
snakegirl stream soon>adamcipator>BES>vic viper>n.13one of these is getting fusion support
>>542745176>Fiend LIGHTNeed i said more
>>542745265Well, you see it turns out Elvennote can pretty easily bridge into engines like Fiendsmith and Mitsurugi along with being able to insulate its plays with an early Baronne which grants it a level of power not first realized upon initial evaluation>>542745473Fur Hire + other deck means you'd have to sequence effects in a weird way since the e-tele not only locks you but needs no monsters, so especially when you're going second and trying to break through a board you have to do annoying evaluations and have to navigate it in really frustrating ways or alternatively shave it from lists entirely.
*reveals habakiri*
Is dueling book the best if I want to play genysis online
>>542745950No DB is ass.
>>542745562Aren't Lamia and Number 13 just for Mitsurugi and Mimighoul>>542745871Grats on Habakiri if he finally achieves the legendary position of the first banned Ritual monster ever, who knew all you had to do was give a Ritual deck Chaliceslime searchable off Pre-Prep, HRA+ARA, Drytron Meteonids searchable off Pre-Prep, a raigeki every turn that's also a handrip/omni, and also every monster is basically Benten on steroids to finally get a banned Ritual card
>>542745871>immediately get on my knees and suck your gock;3
>>542745265>>542745715Apparently only being able to summon to the center zone is not a real restriction with link summon. Who would have guesses?
>>542743021I bought an Armades the other day. Still waiting on it to arrive. I'm watching the price steadily spike so if for some reason or another it doesn't show up I'll be so mad.
KILL ALL LINKBEHEAD ALL LINKKICK LINK INTO THE DICK
Armades raped Catastor
>>542746027So edpro?
>>542746094Well I mean both the 1 card starters naturally get rid of themselves from the MMZ, with the monster searcher getting the Power Patron to Sync her off and the spell placer getting the Serpent Strike that summons from Deck to send her off for the monster searcher
>but what if we gave a ritual deck all the broken ritual effects we printed over the years at once?It turns out that was all you needed.Wonder if you'd get a similar result if you tried this with Flip?
>>542746094you don't even need links since the archetype has built in ways to make the center mz free
>>542742628It would be cool if konami just invented a "what-if" MC without ever producing an anime or manga for them.
the elvennote killer
Elvennotes will be the next tier 1 meta threat. Elf sluts ft. Engraver from the Devil May Cry series won.Konami will take too long to ban Requiem, it's the new Halq getting all the tuners or in this case Light Fiends banned first.
>>542743506The fact people on here seriously argued that moon deserved to be banned is fucking grim.
Why not just ask Shueisha to allowed them to make OG story in Duel Link
It would be very funny if we hit Mitsu to shit and exchange Moon for Requiem here before Elvennote comes out and it just kinda, uh, doesn't have any engine to pivot into or Baronne here>>542746647Why make random fanfic deviantart OCs when you still have some characters you can milk before you'd have to ask such a thing?
>>542746618Watt card btw
with how often i saw normalfags asking for a closed heaven ban instead of a requiem ban, i wonder if they would also cheer for an armades/melomelody/exciton ban.
Imagine how retardedly funny it'll be if Armades gets banned in 2025
>>542746882>implying we're gonna get another list this year
>>542746828this is halq all over again
>>542743506>the ocg, the format that famously has closed moon legalLel
Arguing for a Moon ban over Requiem was always an retarded argument when one of the best Fiendsmith decks in RYZEAL could just as easily use Exciton, and another Fiendsmith deck that won a YCS used Goblins, and could just, make Melomelody. Who could have guessed that trying to ban all the generic ED cards with a specific type/attribute combination is an entirely fruitless effort and maybe you should just fucking ban the problem in the first place
only trannies care about standard format
>>542747179>you have to ban good cards because it hurts my feelings because I play bad decks>caesar fucked my wifeFiendsmith Engine does nothing more unfair than any of the current meta decks or any of the future meta decks. The Moon ban is to curb its splashability while allowing some decks the choice to play the engine in a slightly more restricted manner.
Given how Snake Eyes turns from combo threat to literally unplayable off the back of a single OSS ban, I wonder how many decks could slug off a ban to any of its cards and still be playable as long as nothing else is hit alongside itLike Fiendsmith fucking dies if you ban Requiem, Mitsu probably eats a lot of shit if you ban Ritual, maybe Ryzeal can cope if you ban Detonator? There's probably no individual card you can ban that kills Maliss unless you include incidental Cyberse bans alongside them
The Firewall Dragon and Halq of Light Fiends.
>>542747432> single OSS ban,Half of the good links and Moon being banned plus bonfire being limited is kind of a big deal too
Come on /dng/, are you still upset over Fiendsmith? It's not even played in any good deck.
>>542747392It's an annoying cringe engine that forces an entire fucking type/attribute combination to have to balance around it, has no other purpose besides letting decks pivot into more interruptions and recursion and any time I talk about how bad harsh locks are I always get some fucking retard going "UH YOU JUST WANT EVERY DECK TO GO INTO FIENDSMITH" so yes I want that fucking shit goneI'd take an infinite amount of Level 5 decks splashing K9 before I see even a single fucking nigger make Armades, Closed Moon, Melomelody, or Exciton and then go full Fiendsmith combo because at least the former implies some form of native synergy
>>542747678>Younger vtuber formsKisikil > Lilla>Older regular formsLilla > Kisikil
I Negate
>>542747179If I was in a high position at KoJ I would purposefully develop cards like new tuners during halq and new Light Fiends now to fuck with KoA and their clown hits.
>>542747975If you were at a high position at KoJ you could just tell them to ban it and they would
>>542747975AnonEven in OCG, it still roam free
>>542747898It really feels wrong for ygo cards to have the art extend outside the border.
>>542747008but will it be halq halq, or halq but for some reason people are cheering at jet synchron and o-lion getting banned?
>native synergy between fiendsmith and 99% of decksi make 2 monsters :)At least Mitsu shits out infinity material so you can conceivably pivot into the other half of the deck
Ban HabakiriBan Requiem
Konami made Fiendsmith too compressed
>firewall>halq>requiemi'm noticing!
>>542748112It's supposed to be the monster hovering over the card like they do in the anime during summoning
But I just bought 2 Requiem, fuck you guys, no, you can't hit it now.
i summon 2 monsters so i get to make 3 interruptions nowIt was aids when Apo was a free payoff for generic linkvomit deck and it's just as aids when Fiendsmith does it
>>542743684dood is assbpro has 20 slots to save its assiness (hint, it won't)koj are only interested in dbp now it seems, no more pote, no more agov
>>542748353Links have the most banned cards out of the extra deck types at 22 cards on the list. Oh and in case anyone was wondering, Cheatyz is second with 18.
>Ban Link>Format improvedAPOLOGIZE
>>542747432Combo decks are the most vulnerable. Decks that are built to out resource the opponent tend to be the most resilient.
>>542748462He fell for the wait for meta card to drop in price memeForgot the part where they ban it.Next you'll tell me you're waiting on mitsu to be "affordable"
>>542748623no
>dood is ass they sayI wanted and bought every single archetype that was supported in Dood. The only card I didn't want was the Yummy shit. Dood is an amazing set.
Lmaoing @ smithseethers getting BTFO again and again and again
>>542748714Don't worry they put 20 points on the ninja fusions to keep the power level down
>>542748714Here's the thing, VS k9 is infinitely more manageable to deal with than whatever is meta in advanced at any given moment.
>>542747432>I wonder how many decks could slug off a ban to any of its cards and still be playable as long as nothing else is hit alongside ittears are the most obvious example, you could ban any of their cards and they won't care (implying that's the only hit)
As long as Link-1 is just>Just summon LIGHT Fiend Lmao>Just summon LIGHT Beast Lmao>Just summon Spellcaster Or Dragon Lmao>Just summon Dragon lmaoThe game will always be shit
>yfw armades and exciton knight get bannedlmao is there a fusion/ritual light fiend?
As long as Link-1s exist the game will always be shit
Zero (0) Honestdulums on the banned list btw.>b-but Electru-That's a link monster :)
first we ban all the link and pendulum monsters
god Lucina is thicc
>>542748793are you stupid or what
>>542748973
Creampieing Lucina then making her put her tights back on and walk around while cum leaks out into her tights
>>542749053based
>LinksBanned from genesys cuz they're broken>PendsBanned cuz they're ugly
Every single pendulum and link is banned from the main format
>>542748661Fiendsmith is cheaper now than ever bro.
>>542749406Exactly. I'm saying that's why it's getting banned.
I was wondering, would ishizu tear still be unstoppable in no cap genesys (essentially unbanned format but no pends and links)?
>>542749539You need a brain transplant.
even if armades gets banned can't elvennotes go into levilazebul from accel synchron send jet?
>>542749539Yes. Are you stupid?
>>542749620Waste too much resource
>>542749101>>542749231Wrong thread bro
>>542749539They played Cross Sheep and that's it.
>>542749539Yes? No bans would mean they also get access to shit like 3 painful choice.
>>542749684you just use 1 elvennote, that you searched with their power patron, which also searches another elbennote anyways
Shining Sarcophagus support please
>>542749698Right thread bro
i love fiendz!! fiendz are cute, fiends are best design , kuriboh won
>>542748056I'd rather just fuck with them and would avoid having to ever directly interact with them.>>542748076Yes but even the OCG didn't start banning extra deck monsters for the sole sin of being light fiends. I'd commission pack filler cards that happen to be link-2 light fiends with generic material (at least one with no effect whatsoever). It would make zero difference in the OCG but would fuck with the TCG.
>>542748793What’s the opening board for it? I have been trying to find a video for it.
>>542748932It wouldn't be an issue if they didn't also have crazy effects. Would a link-1 that's completely generic with the only effect being "As long as this card remains face-up on the field, the field is treated as "Toon World" really be BONKEN!!?
>>542751276>would a "send anything from field to GY for free" really be broken?Yes. You would need to put a lock or something at least
The Link-1 that searches the Field Spell*, but also has some other synergistic effect* The Field Spell searches everything else or acts as an extender
>>542749539What pends and links did you think were so instrumental to ishizu tear to even ask this question?They would be even stronger with all the busted xyz, synchros and spells cards they'd have access to.
>>542747046With moon I don't think it is even possible stop elvennotes without maxx C or fuwa in OCG since>normal summon Medius effectNegate>SS Lucina/Dyina effextNegate>Moon -> requiem -> lacrima send engraver -> ss engraver -> sequence -> aerial eater sends patron -> medius GY effect ss himself back -> medius + sequence for promethean ss patron back -> synchro patron + aerial eater for full comboOr if you manage to somehow negate lacrima then they can still make bagooska or caesar. That is assume they didn't hard draw the elvennotes spell or theorealize or any of the other 2 color elvennotes girls
>>542751395I suppose so. Easier to just make it an xyz with no detach effect and call it a day.
>>542751718Nib and 2 Veilers doeBut no seriously ban Baronne and Caesar
>>542751921>>542751718>Forgetting Gnomaterial
>>542751921>CaesarChrist, I meant Requiem, ban Requiem
>>542751718Just open Shifter bro
>>542751024someone explain me this one
>>542752328If you squeeze your eyes hard enought, look like ghost face
>>542752328some retarded no-life schizo's ritual post that he will post in every single thread for months #77388439
>>542751395for toons that would not be a broken effect lolyou could make a link 1 for toon that lets you ss one from hand and it'd still be balanced solely through the fact that toons don't do shit Put a toon lock on it sure, but toon chaos was a garbage set and did nothing to actually help the archetype beyond giving you more searchers and a boss monster that was already powercrept by the time it came out
>>542752328Low effort ritual post. Begging you to notice him like a lil fag basically
Elvennotes won't have access to Fiendsmith by the time it gets here.
>>542752985>for toonsExcept it is a "completely generic" Link-1. It wouldn't just be a Toon card, it would be an everyone card.People play Salamangreat Almiraj for letting you send a Normal Summoned monster with 1000 or less ATK to GY, imagine if ANYTHING could be sent.There would need to be a restriction of some sort to prevent generic usage otherwise its absolutely on the chopping block. In the rare change its not now, it WILL be later.
>>542752985The issue with Toon BLS is his awful summoning condition more than anything. Toons should have stuck with their original summoning method and been given some way to generate tokens as tribute material (with obvious locks on the tokens to prevent them being used as link material).
>>542753545Its an issue with toons in general that having to sac two monsters to summon any of the useful ones is also dogshit. They should've just been free summons over requiring any sort of cost with how weak and slow they are.
>toon bls doesn't just banish 2 toon monsters from your GYlmao
I stopped caring about toons ever since their playstyle stopped being silly abd became a bad otk deck.Mimighouls are the better silly deck with whacky effects
>>542753814Sure, but the original condition was workable with some support. Toons as a concept would have worked much better as extra deck monsters or even pendulums, but there's no way to pivot to that without completely abandoning everything that exists for them.
>>542753902It could have sent two toons from your deck to the GY and it would have still been just "ok".>>542754324They should be a control-grind deck. That's exactly how Pegasus played them and with enough good traps and ways to set them up it still could be
Shining Sarc was basically Yugi's version of Toon
>>542743125hecahand jobbed the other 2 dbpr deck
>still no genesys point updateit's over... another koa format dead
>>542756285Not even a month yet, bitch
How about we ban that lacrima whore instead?
>>542756351I can't believe how quickly it died either...
>OCG creates weaker version of Maxx "C" so they can finally phase-out this shit>except they still keep Maxx "C" around>now TCG have to deal with Mulcharmy tooHow the hell did the campaign to get rid of this cancer only made it even worse for everyone involved?
>>542757558Roach to 2 was a Tenpai hit.
>>542756285wait for the dogmatika cards to release first
>>542757558They are still trying to use the Tactical-Try-Decks to get new players into the game and all of them have 2 Maxx C. Each deck is "built to play right out of the box" so they've dug themselves a new hole.
>>542757558Fuwa wasn't designed to replace the bug, it was designed to make the bug minigame more entertaining for our Japanese friends.They are NEVER banning the bug. The WILL continue to make the bug subgame more elaborate instead.
>>542756454kek
>>542757558Because the data shows that charmies are not enough to close the gap between going first and second to acceptable level. In a tournament, 80% of the participants are just fodder so winning or losing the dice might not make much of a different, but in the top cut, if you lose the dice then you should mentally prepare to lose the whole match unless your opponent has shit luck that match
>>542757558going 2nd has such a low winrate that KoJ are wracking their brains on what to give it to balance the odds
>>542758630The solution is to make more extra deck cards like TY-PHON except make them actually good.
Both generic.One sees play, the other does not.The one who sees play costs 0 points on genesys, the other one costs 100 points.Explain.
Just make more decks like tiaraments strongest
>>542759653The genesys list is kinda a mess. You can tell the decks and strategies that got hit where whatever the devs happen to playtest with.
>>542759653You can do the dumb turnskip on Ptolemaeus
>>542759834Explain GB hits then
>>542759885Thats what the devs where playing with. Same with shit like ninja. Any shit archetype that got hit was because it was one of the devs petdecks that they kept beating other devs with.
>>542758885extra deck kaijus
>>542759703This, but unironically.
SUPER QUANT BLACK MEGAZORD AS ONE OF THE THREE XYZ IN BPROPLEASE, I BEG YOU KONAMI
>>542760908It was never ironic, anon.Strong decks aren't the problem, non-game decks are.
>>542759703It was honestly the direction modern yugioh needed to go. If the game is going to be decided in the first turn, then the only way to have meaningful interaction that isn't just throwing handtraps at each other is to give decks a way to play on their opponents turn.
>>542761056>Turn 0 playNo fuck off nigger
what genesys decks are you playing other than maliss, qliphorts and link/pend decks?
>>542762695abyss actor
>>542762751i hate this general
>>542762695I will make Branded work.
>>542762910You actually canJust have to cut fusion Lubellion
Why does the tcg refuse to adopt the numbered effects that the ocg has?
Deck for this feel?
>>542763339I'll give you a hint: The blog posts detailing and describing PSCT was posted under Kevin Tewart's name.
>>542763339KoJ won't let them.
>>542762695Fire Kings and Onomats. I'd like to pick up Megaliths and Super Quants, maybe even try Ogdo brews like Evol Ogdos or DoomZ Ogdos if it gets functioning support that turns it into an actual deck
>>542762695i just have radiant typhoon (with a good amount of speedroid cards) and drytron right now. drytron is way more expensive than it needs to be right now by the way. i'm hoping for unhits next point list.
You know it's funny how astrononically worse the Superfactorial engine gets in Genesys when you realize no EMZ means you can only end on 2 monsters to make it live
>>542763515Red eyes black dragon
where will this guy shine the most? Shining sarcophagus deck? My all time favourite card is Dark Magician of Chaos so I want to play this guy somewhere.
>>542767087Some deck with Diabellstar in it
>>542767087Sarc probably for easy rank 8s
>>542767087Unironically, Tearlaments.
>>542767087Good god when will they update this guy's engineIt's still doing the same Normal Summon Rod shit except sometimes you Normal Summon Ether Beryl instead
>>542768689That is the updated engine. He’s a link-1 monster that brings in the “Dark magician” name and searches for any “Dark Magician” related card.
With Quem becoming more relevant to the Branded stotyline, I wonder if she will have a boss monster retrain soon.
>>542700328>got a video of pokemon new megas recommendedYikes, i sometimes bitch about ygo designs becoming generic so it's nice to get a reminder it could always be worse
>>542763515grub monsters/primal fit in ygo
>>542768689Never, konami has a mega hateboner for dm
>>542773451>Konami loves Kaiba and Blue-Eyes>Konami hates Yugi and Dark MagicianEvery time.
>>542773886They hate Joey and Red Eyes the most tho
2.5 card comboMechaba summon on opponents turnCould've gone worse i guess award>>542767087>>542768689Hello fellow DM stacies, i recommend magistus.
>>542773886>>542774016>>542773451They hate everything in dual monsters except blue-eyes.>b-but ishizuThat was an accident on their part and they sent her deck to the shadow realm asap.
>Duel Links is giving 3 soccer rescue rabbits for free.If anyone is interested, you can put my code 00206hxndx9z to get a Free HERO deck.
>>542774046I don't play DM, I'm just exasperated at how the engine has basically barely moved a needle since the days of Arc-V and even then that shit looked like it fit more in the GX era
>>542774046Does the Link-2 do anything or is he just chilling?
>>542775339bounces Aleister to hand who summons himself then makes Zoroa or mechaba on opps turn depending on what i feel like.
>>542775339>>542775615Also i can chain him in response to anything, meaning the thing i responded to can be negated by Zaren the CL3 negate dragon
>>542775849That's a really good synergy.
>>542775987Yeah.>>542774996Just give this a whirl, it plays nothing like old DM. your normal summon isn't rod it's berry magician girl LMAO.>>542775987Yeah i read "synchro .... Negate" and thought "I'm making this"
>>542776674very cool i'll take a look at it
decks for this feel?
>>542774046You know it's fucked up how much Zaren looks like Yazi
>>542777110If he's invincible why can i see him
Look KoJ I get it. You hate chudgoon, you can have him. Just print the second good DM spell or trap please...
>>542777110Tearlament
>>542777218They did.
>we have to make DM shit because of Dragoon>imagine if you could make an indestructible untargetable omninegate that burns
>>542767087When is he coming out in the TCG?
>>542777194because you're invincible too, anon
You know it is weird that Red Eyes is slowly accumulating his various forms of omninegate like he was Stardust Dragon or some shit
>>542777960THE POTENTIAL
REF into set 5 is like the highest test deck we've had ever. Japs simply couldn't handle the vrill.
>>542778052>ref into set 5uh, retardbro...?
>>542778175Extrav or some shit chuddy
>>542778052Uh sis your Guru?
>>542774363Ishizu was so extreme that I’m not even sure why they never errated those cards when they made a boss monster to modernize Branded that only reserves mills TWO cards. And notably, none of these bosses Branded, K9, and Maliss have are quick effect interruptions. Ishizu is so bad for the game, I wonder why they don’t remove the quick effects and enormous targets from those reverse mill fairies, so people can be able to counter Ishizu and Tearlaments far more effectively. And ensure neither of those decks get to floodgate the GY for free despite abusing it the most. Also, Tearlaments should be once per chain in their GY effects, because, I can’t stand the absurd floats those cards have. Maliss is more far than it.>>542773886>>542774016No, Konami has a better idea on what to do with Blue-Eyes while red eyes and magician are stuck in this weird issue of receiving entirely new decks altogether to represent Joey and Yugi.
when will we get a good wave of supports for cyber dragons and not random cards every now and then?
>>542777960Primite Metal is fun, if toothless, every time a game ends with burn or someone forgetting Flame Swordsman is a taxman your suffering feels worth it.
>>542777569Anyone at all?
>>542779203Maze of the Motherfucker in March.
>>542779459You've got to be kidding me, 5 more months???
>>542779823At the very earliest it could be imported in Burst Protocol in Januari but most likely it will come in a Maze set.
I wonder if they’re changing the TCG strategies to make a meta deck here and a meta deck for the OCG. Since the OCG had a lot of interest in the TCG archetypes before they were ported over and were always given a disappointment most of the time.
I have Yu-Gi-Oh fatigue bros ...
Aura Sentia.
>>542781627R.B.
post VRAINS eternal winter era of yugioh do be boring doe
But imagine if the TCG did their own version of Genesys Try Packs complete with TCG exclusive support
>>542782740Magic Player, what does R.B. even mean?
>>542783709R.B. is the name of an archetype, means Revol Bots
>give support to an old fan favorite>it's so shit that it does nothing for the nostalgia wankWhat is the yugioh equivalent of this?
>>542783000vrainsflop killed the anime
>>542783709Really Bad.
>>542784139The archetype looks more like a gimmicky mess as Killer Toon is.
>>542749204I still can't believe how this was a boss monster for an entire game...
Making new inroads in the 'Dogshit handloop' department
Was it really necessary to give Really Bad a 1500 ATK Machine ED lock instead of just a 1500 ATK ED lock?
>>542785476I've seen alot of seething over this today (against my will i don't care about Pokémon at all) and it's fucking hilarious to me because i just like this goofy design + seeing nintendo at all shit their pants over it nets it extra points
>>542785476The shitty posthumous deck retroactively made for an anime character they never support afterwards
>>542786757Try three characters at once (Nordics)
>>542785476This can describe basically all anime legacy support but Dark Magician support is the epitome of this>new support wave every one or two years>doesn't give the deck anything new to do just gives it bells and whistles>not even uniquely strong cards just stuff that underpar for even contemporary legacy support>none of the support actually reinforces the deck's strengths to allow it to do something>blue eyes gets meta level support in the mean time lel
>>542785476Oh I totally forgot about the Pokemon leakPokemon designers are really master class, it's kind of amazing how they can have the job of making simplistic "cute" designs and can somehow make Odd Eyes-tier uggos inspite of that restriction, it's truly impressive
>Demise support>Relinquished support>Reactor support>Wind Up support>Qli supportI want to believe
>>542787285Megas in particular are supposed to look 'weird' or 'unnatural' or 'exaggerated' which leads to the designers taking very strange directions. It's a /vp/ meme at this point but the old megas are also kinda patchy in quality though not nearly to Z/A's extentYugioh kind of suffers from a similar issue when designing shit like alt forms or support for old ass archetypes but not as bad.
>>542787285I prefer older yugioh card art compared to the modern style, but difference between them is nothing compared to how far pokemon design has fallen.>Odd Eyes-tier uggosEven the worst odd-eyes isn't anywhere near pokemon levels of bad.
wait a minutei hate nugioh and genesys
how do I get into playing yugioh irl?
>>542785476>>542787204DM still gets better support than most of the OG anime archetypes.>Toons>Reliquished>Harpies>Barrel Dragon>Red-eyes>baby dragon & time wizard>Final Destiny>Every Egyptian God deck>Rex' Dino King Rex and serpent night dragon>Weevels insect queen and perfect moth>Esperoba.dek/jinzo>Gaia>Celtic Guardian>MagnetsHell isnt Dark magician still much more playable than BLS.dek or even Chaos. Dark Magician has some actually decent cards come out soon for the TCG, that can't be said about any other the archetypes above.
>>542789118Find your local game store, check to see if they have a tournament scheduled and go. Probably the easiest way to get playing with people without worrying about feeling imposing on others for a duel or if you're confident enough just to any other day and talk to people who you see with yugioh cards.
>>542787285Mega Starmie is so fucking out there I kinda respect it.>>542788135Feels too much like they went into Raging Bolt levels of weird because every Japanese artist was drawing it.>>542788275Odd-Eyes Lancer Dragon is kinda worse than Mega Skarmory.
>>542786564You can also do Fiendsmith which puts lethal on board through Dugares. Just hope they don't have literally anything to body block
>>542735370The problem is that its "full" spellcaster deck is like max 15 cardsAnd two of them you'd rather have as 1-ofs. And one of them is a meme 3-of, regular 0-of.So eyes restrict deck is like...10 maindeck. Its no where close to a "full" functional deck.
>>542788275this, the only bad recent is yummyslop
>>542789517Most of these suck balls and never got support past their initial releaseAlso>Red Eyeslolno, the existence of Black Metal Dragon alone >>>> anything DM has ever gotten
>>542789118I got in with 3 bewd structures.Absolutely reccomend it. Deck is comptent and consistent and most importantly you get a playset of >Ash>Imperm>Nib>Called by>TWO playsets of veilerJust amazing value for an SD no other product comes close
>>542789517Most of these decks haven't gotten a modern wave since before Magical Hero (which is what I consider the last big jump in DM's strength). Decks that have been shilled a similar amount (Sharks, Onomat, Blue Eyes, Fur Hire of all things, DDD) all eclipse DM without even really trying. All that considered DM still gets mogged by fucking Flame Swordsman, a TCG exclusive I may add, and Metalmorph.dekA thing to note is that DM having 'good cards' on paper doesn't actual translate to the deck doing that well. This is because it has a schizophrenic gameplan that has not been updated since 2016. You're earnestly better off playing Guru control with 3x REF 3x Insight than playing DM.
>>542789517Harpies, magnets and arguably red eyes had their time in the sun. I cant say much for the rest.
>>542789748I'll give you that one. I completely forgot about Lancer because he's so bad. Also if odd-eyes can be considered an "old fan favourite", then it perfectly matches >>542785476. It gets a new dragon every year and its always shit. You read Solblaze at a glace and think "awesome", then look closer and see the lock...
>>542787787Qli support, yesalso an errata to all the qli pendulum effectsI BELIEVE
>>542790389They've all received support or retrains past their initial release. It's just so bad you hadn't noticed.>Black Metal DragonAnd dark magician got illusion of chaos + souls which were played in a bunch of decks. But lets me real, Dragoon dwarfs either BMD or illusion/souls and that counts toward both archetypes.
>>542787787bro I'd cream my pants if Relinquished got actual meta support
>>542789517>Hell isnt Dark magician still much more playable than BLS.dek or even ChaosThey should bite the bullet and make a Chaos xyz synchro ritual archetype. give it to summoned skull and lock xyz, synchro and rituals to s.skull stats
>>542787787whats the appeal of qli again? wasnt it just a stun deck?
Does anyone have a fun Chazz decklist?
>>542791506Red Eyes has Fullmetal Dragon, which doesn't discard and isn't seriously the entire gameplan like that's even remotely sufficient.You are insane if you seriously think Ritual Mulligan >>>>>>> SoulpiercerAlso almost none of those got substantial support waves past their initial wave that turned them into the deck
>>542791612Tribute mechanic but aggrotribute summoning gives you protection against monster effectspendulum gives... gave enough fodder than you could actually pull a egyptian god monster in the deckRAD machinesTowers and Scout were just that gamechanging
>>542791592>make a Chaos xyz synchro ritual archetypeSo a Spellcaster version of P.U.N.K but ritual instead of Fusion?
so light fiends huh
The PHHY Chaos Synchro shit gets a lot more pathetic when you realize it's basically a shittier RDA except you can make uh Chaos Angel or something I guess
>>542791592>xyzStop trying to make ebon a thing; it's a waste. Focus on 2 Summoning mechanics (the Level-adding ones)
>>542792131>Red Eyes has Fullmetal DragonAnd DM is about to get some really solid cards soon and had the entire shining sarc archetype giving you an entirely new way to play a "dark magician" deck.>You are insane if you...No, I don't think Red-Eyes is in a better position that DM. Black metal being used in dragon link doesn't somehow put Red-Eyes as a whole on the map, the same way meta decks using illusion/soul doesn't put DM on the map. >didn't get "substantial support"Ah so now we are moving the goal posts...
>>542791612Qli are a major part of /dng/ lore
>>542793069>>542793531it was more about chaos numbers, i don't care for spellcasters
>>542793665>And DM is about to get some really solid cards soonYou mean Diabellstar and Horus are about to get really solid cards soon, Dark Magician is about to stay as ass as ever.>uhhh dragon link abusing black metal dragon doesn't mean red eyes is in a better position than dark magicianNo I think having a gameplan better than not even being able to natively 1 card Dragoon puts it in a better spot than DM. Also not remotely close to what I said, I said that Black Metal Dragon is inherently a better card than every single DM card, which is true. Because it's literally just Soulpiercer.Also lmao if you are seriously bragging about beating fucking Thousand Dragon as a deck with modern DM and using the fucking DM vanilla era as your baseline for DM decks
>yfw armades and fabled synchro gets banned before lacrima
>>542793956Magic Conchshell needs to come back.
I am NOT going to lie I wouldn't mind a collaboration with another franchise here or thereI think our game would be better off being exposed to a more casual crowd
>>542794815>I am NOT going to lievery trustworthy words
Dark Magician doesn't have a native 1 card combo into it's Fusion-1 and has to do shit like cope on Shining Sarc of all things, which pretty much says everything about the current state of that deck
>>542786721Starmie's mega is like the least offensive one of the batch, it being goofy doesn't really seem worth getting upset over.
>>542794815Only if they are crossovers that I personally approve of.
>>542794276>You mean Diabellstar and Horus are about to get really solid cards soon, Dark Magician is about to stay as ass as ever.More goal post moving>Black metal dragon being used in dragon link total counts for Red-eyes!!!>Noooo these new DM cards being used in diabellstar or whatever totally don't count for DM!!!Just stfu already.>I think having a gameplan...Why don't you try playing some of the decks I mentioned to get some perspective on how bad things really are for other duel monster decks. I just can't take your bitching about DM seriously when you're trying to make out DM has somehow been worse off.>braggingWhat the fuck are you smoking? Bragging? All I'm saying is even after getting support/retrains, those archetypes are all in a much more dire place than DM. Is that such a difficult point to concede?
want to try to build a chimera deck in genesys since I love the artworks, any good blend where it can work that's not branded? Maybe azamina with Fiendsmith?
>>542794815I’d rather not. I’m not the fence with the new border breaking artwork as it is.
>>542794815Fuck no. This crossover bullshit is killing MTG. I do NOT want this cancer to plunge Yugioh too.
>>542795440>More goal post moving>uh actually decks splashing Illusion of Chaos or Souls doesn't constitute a DM deck>BUT DIABELLSTAR AND HORUS RUNNING THE FUSION-1 DOESlmaoAlso again, you seem exceptionally illiterate, so let me explain it to you really slowly.The 1 card combo in Pure Red Eyes off the back of Black Metal Dragon >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire Dark Magician archetypeLike I don't know how Red Eyes has Soulpiercer and Dark Magician does not is such a difficult concept for you to grasp, yeah man, DLink abuses it because even with the middling cards Red Eyes get BMD is batshit insane and every middling extender Red Eyes gets is entirely recontextualized with the existence of an archetypal Soulpiercer.Nigga is seriously comparing the 7+ waves or whatever of support DM got to FUCKING CELTIC GUARDIAN, WHICH GOT 1 CARD
>>542795285What stuff would you like to see?
Time is a flat circle.https://x.com/denfaminicogame/status/1978070726952522164
>>542795502>cornfield coatl 33>nightmare apprentice 33>guardian chimera 33Its dead jim.
>>542762695tempest.dek
>>542796348would chimera even be that oppresive at full power? Or would it just end up as a branded engine? Oh.
>>542796348fml i guess
>>542796452>would chimera even be that oppresive at full power?it's tier 0 in duel links... oh wait, i dreamed that
Out of pure curiosity does Dark Magician even have a 1 card combo to output 2 bodies on board without relying on an outside engine like Shining Sarc or Primite or somethingI guess Rod for Dark Magical Circle and pray you get Apprentice Illusion or Souls or an extender?
>>542796452Its 1 card hand rip+chimera pop/draws+2 negates (even if they're not omni's, they just get set up for free during your combo)Its really powerful in context of the card economy game.
Neo-Spacian retrains would be cool but something tells me Konami will only give them rarity bumps in the Limited Pack -Ra Yellow pack or whatever its going to be called like they did with Judai's original line of Elemental HERO cards in the recent Slifer Red pack. Shame too. Konami missed the window to do something new with the original HEROs but chose to just give them all rarities that some have never gotten or haven't gotten in a while so I think they'll do the same with Neo-Spacian.
>>542796936Shining Sarc was built to be a dark magician archetype.
>old cover card archetypes still getting support months/years after release>zarc gets nothing when there are some very noticeable gaps since the last wavethx kojima very cool
Dark Magician — The Dark MagicianThis card name becomes Dark Magician. You can reveal this card from your hand (Quick Effect): Special Summon 1 level 5 or higher spellcaster from your hand, it cannot be destroyed by battle this turn. While this card is on the field, level 7 and lower spellcaster monsters cannot be targeted by your opponent's card effects. During the Standby Phase: You can banish 1 s/t from the GY; special summon this card and 1 level 7 or lower spellcaster monster from the GY. You can only use each effect of this card's name once per turn.
>>542797879Gonna take that as a no then
where is new genesissy ban list?
>>542796056>uh actually decks splashing Illusion of Chaos or Souls doesn't constitute a DM deck>BUT DIABELLSTAR AND HORUS RUNNING THE FUSION-1 DOESGod you are fucking retarded, I was pointing out your hypocrisy you cretin. Having a one card combo doesn't mean anything if the rest of the deck is ass, its only as good as the archetype it's in. One card doesn't make an archetype, THAT is the point I was making. Toons have a card that can search anything in archetype, including itself and isn't once per turn... The archetype is still mega ass.>seriously comparing the 7+ wavesYes you stupid fuck. The ENTIRE point was that these decks have received less support than DM, and what little support they have gotten has been worse than what DM has received over the years, so much so that people don't even realise they got support/retrains. The original post was just>give support to an old fan favorite>it's so shit that it does nothing for the nostalgia wankAnd somehow you couldn't just accept these archetypes are even worse off than DM and move the goal posts with stupid shit like "uhhh thats not 'substantial' so it doesn't count!" and fixating on the one archetype out of 15 I listed thats arguable to avoid the actual point I made.>>542790497>A thing to note is that DM having 'good cards' on paper doesn't actual translate to the deck doing that well.That goes for all of them though. millennium eyes restrict is still an ok fusion, but I doubt anyone is going to argue that relinquished is a good deck overall.>You're earnestly better off playing Guru control with 3x REF 3x Insight than playing DM.Many of them have little engines worth playing in other decks. illusion/souls for rituals and black metal have already been mentioned, but there's also Chaos with Chaos Angel, chaos space, chaos emperor. It really depends on where you draw the line between the "archetype" being played, and one or two cards that happen to slot into something completely unrelated.
>>542798470not enough people playing to warrant one
>>542798639>>542792131>You are insane if you seriously think Ritual Mulligan >>>>>>> Soulpiercer>>542794276>No I think having a gameplan better than not even being able to natively 1 card Dragoon puts it in a better spot than DM. Also not remotely close to what I said, I said that Black Metal Dragon is inherently a better card than every single DM card, which is true. Because it's literally just SoulpiercerI like how this retard got buttblasted at me for saying Soulpiercer > the entire DM archetype and had to go "UMM ACTUALLY DLINK ABUSED BLACK METAL DRAGON" yeah, because BMD is fucking crazy retard. Lol if you think Toon Table of Contents is even remotely comparable to SoulpiercerGood god this retard is really trying to go "WELL ACTUALLY DM IS BETTER THAN THESE VANILLAS, DM IS BETTER THAN THIS 2 CARD ARCHETYPE" because that's how low the bar is for DMAlso you replied to this >>542787204 dipshit
this guy seems overatted unless i'm missing something, completely locking you out of summoning for the rest of the turn for a card that's supposed to help you break boards going second just doesn't seem very good to me.it feels like the opponent will just rebuild their board and all you have to survive is 1 (not so big) boss monster.if the bounce was a quick effect or instead a monster steal it would have been decent and could actually help you come back, but looking at it like this it almost seems like a win more card.
>>542799562He's great for any set 5 deck. Outside of that he's not great.
>>542799562TY-PHON is basically copium for most decks and is very match-up dependant. I swear the MOMENT they released typhon a bunch of bosses were started at sub 3k attack to conveniently ignore himYour deck needs to be very particular to make him shine.
>>542799562It's one of those things that you include just because you have room. Nothing does what Typhon does and while if you're going into it you're probably losing it does put in a lot of work for winning otherwise lost games and complicated game states. It applies pressure with its removal and floodgate that can buy you another turn to turn things around.
Here's my 1 card Red Eyes combo>NS Black Metal Dragon>make Striker Dragon>search REDMD>banish Striker to summon REDMD>reborn Black Metal Dragon>uhhh fuck the world is your oyster you could do dumb Romulus shit and Agarpain shit for linkclimbing or just the stereotypical Seals+Fullmetal which is at a baseline level more than what DM can doHere's my 1 card Dark Magician combo into Dragoon>uh fuck>uh i don't know? play the shining sarc engine>actually fuck it why even play dm at that point? it does NOTHING for shining sarc since shining sarc dmg already does itHere's my 1 card Dark Magician combo into full Fiendsmith combo with Closed Moon legal>this deck literally can't even put 2 bodies on board as a 1 card combo without having to gamble with RNG or utilizing other engines jesus christ how is this deck this bad
bpro is one of the sets of all time huh
Feels like my chains kept getting bigger and bigger ever since i started going out of my way to make him, very fun card
>>542800509Sorry Pisty, not Agarpain
>>542785476archfiends
>>542801000dude....
Why does this deck not have a ROTA
>>542800509See I don't have this issue because in my mind all shining sarc and DM cards are part of the same cauldron.If some version of DM cards can shit out a dragoon, then my DM deck can shit out a dragoon. Simple as.
>>542786320it's surprisingly workable and coherent, excluding mitsurugi it's the best recent TCG archetype by far
>>542801000>Introduces new gimmick of a Ritual Pendulum that needs the Extra Monster Zone>New support doesn't work with the majority of the existing cardsIt's kind of impressive in that way.
>>542799264God you are such a disingenuous fuck. You are still avoiding the point I made.>DM IS BETTER THAN THIS 2 CARD ARCHETYPE" because that's how low the bar is for DMAnd why is it so hard for you to just agree that DM is bad, but others are worse without acting like a massive cunt? Some of them only have a couple of cards because, shockingly, getting shit nostalgia support that does absolutely nothing to revive interest was the point of the original post. Many of them are proper decks and are still shitter than DM but of course those don't count because you insist on being a bitch about it.>dipshitLook at what you were replying to, fuckwit.
>>542801296Why does this deck not have a ROTA
>>542801504The archetype in question and then it's 3 cards
i still can't believe that spright elf and ronin toadin are banned in the tcgthey are completely legal in master duel (i play 2 elf in my deck) and the deck still can't really compete well with things like ryzeal or maliss, hell even weaker decks like blue eyes are better than spright, their endboards are better and they play through more disruptions.how is spright in the tcg? is toadaly awesome really strong enough to compensate for ronin and elf being banned?
>>542800509>Romulus shit and Agarpain shitSo not red-eyes shit.
>>542801531It is 2025 this archetype got support this year how is this even remotely acceptable
>>542801798>how is spright in the tcgIts dead mostlyIts probably another "konami forgot" situation like most of the powercrept cards on the banlist.
>>542802036Konami probably hates Tearlaments too much to allow for that link-2 to exist.
>>542801746>final destiny>egyptian gods>toons>relinquished>esperoba/jinzo>Harpies>Gaia>magnets>BLSAll full archetypes in question if you're going to insist on moving the goalposts instead of just saying "sure, DM isn't the worst off". Shall we start going through all the godawful GX archetypes that aren't HERO, Cyber Dragons and Monarchs too and compare them to DM, or do all those also not count because... because you said so?
>>542801531Soul Servant is so funny because on paper it reads as the craziest card ever but then in practice it's a complicated search.>>542801296This one is funny because it demonstrates their focus on the Eternal Soul playstyle and the Dark Magician Girl angle. Eternal Soul isn't even that good of a card in big 2023 or whenever this card was printed, they could have committed to letting you do the shitty Dragon Master Knight lock and it'd be worse than Genesys Lunalight and Super Quant. The Dark Magician Girl shit is annoying too because you don't even get any big out of running the brick like say, how running Exchange of the Soul in a Ishizu deck does. They just really want you to play this shitty card.>>542801984Good in Duel Links
>>542801880>Spheres+Fullmetal off Black Metal DragonStill significantly better than Dark Magician's 1 card combo, which is playing another deck>inb4 you can't use spheres or striker dragon or even spirit of blue eyes or any link 1 dragonYou can tell Dark Magician is exceptional ass given the sort of inane caveats you have to apply to Red Eyes to prevent it from linkclimbing with its own cards
>>542803113All Konami has to do is print a decent fusion for DMG. That's it.
>>542801984>searches (kinda)>conditional removal when you do the thing that half the cards in the deck are designed to do (summon dm)behold, perlereino
Are there any sims with built in genysis support?
>>542804234Most of them not named edoEdo dev is a fucking bitch.
>>542803301>the sort of inane caveats you have to apply to Red Eyes to prevent it from linkclimbing with its own cardsThe point is if red-eyes can end its combo with a bunch of non-red-eyes shit and still be "red-eyes" in your view, why can't decks that can use DM cards in their combos or deck in some way not count as "Dark Magician" in your view?
>>542804234literally all of them but edo. and master duel (as if it even counts)
>>542803303I mean when DM was guven a fusion card where all you have to do is play 1 spell card to summon it what else is there to do?
>>542786721It reminds me of the Starmen from Earthbound and how they were standing proudly
>>542804413>a single Red Eyes monster can go into full Dragon Link combo>Diabellstar can do the entire DM line by herself and then actually do something because all that does is make Dragoon>DM can't do the entire DM line off 1 card though>or even make Fiendsmith back when he was legalOne uses Red Eyes cards as starters and a link climb tool, no one is using Dark Magician cards to start shit
show me your strongest duelers
>>542800509The one card combo for DM is prep into illusion into souls summoning DM into destruction
>>542804413>end's on red-eyes black fullmetal>not a red-eyes
you're going to have to do better than this.
For me it's dark magician girl
>>542804387>>542804448edo support when
>>542805665Never.
I'm sad I can't play MayoSenJew and Nemleria in Genesys... Some pendulum decks deserved to be in! Sob
Black Metal Dragon is equivalent to cards like Terrortop or Orphys Scorpio as outside engines you use to kickstart plays.Dark Magician of Destruction is equivalent to Halq or Verte, you are not touching a Dark Magician main deck monster besides the soft brick spell, you are not considering using a Dark Magician card as a starter, you summon him from the ED, grab the quickplay for the boss, and leave.
>>542805858no
>>542805665The dev will literally ban you on discord if you try to bring it up lmao.He mad.
>>542806032mad or big mad?
>all this complaining about DMit's not THAT bad. DMG on her own gets you pic rel and cieling goes way higher when you open any other searcher of which you have many.>rod suckshe's not your starter anymore so who cares. you use him halfway for an extra body for artemis. your new normal summon is Berry magician girl>it's brickymakes up for it by having a metric fuck ton of searchers and no real hard garnets>it's slowonly if you build it to play slow i build it to play fast>it's worse than bewdBewd is 2 strucures ahead of DM. let me remind you that bewd was borderline unplayable and waaay worse than this before he got the SD. Dark magician has a much better foundation and alot of random good cards like dark magical amulet, it if it ever gets and SD that glues all the cards together into one combo it'll be very easy to make it outshine bewd.>No, not THOSE dark magician cardsriiiight, whatever.
>>542806112Biiiiig mad.
>still no genesys points updatecan't believe speed duel lasted longer than this...
>>542806203got any examples, sounds hilarious
>>542805948Do you have a license to play that card?
>>542806197I find negate monsters so boring and low-ceiling most of the time, that monsters with starter or extender effects tend to be far more dynamic and more complex for the opponent to deal with.
>>542806250it's over for us
Izuna the exhibitionist, she sees you jaywalking and that'll give her an excuse to go Ripper Millenium on your ass and drag your unconcious arrested body while wearing nothing.
>>542796234Shun had a great "what does he even want and also what is wrong with him???" effect at introduction with how he just barrels into people around a city
>>542806527The idea that Izuna is full on beast and Lupis isn’t makes too much sense.
>>542701693It is a cool style.
>this is the dark magician starterMan.
>>542806867The power of diapers.
you were too fucking slow.
>>542806867Dark magician girl support soon! When dsod gets nostalgia wave
But imagine if Red Eyes got a cover card booster or SD that just gave it more starters and extenders that actually gives half of his shit targets and another boss or something
>>542806867Niña chiquita en......
>>542806742Lupus being the good cop and Izuna being the bad cop is funny in my head. Lupus would second guess striking a warehouse that's manufacturing stupidly illegal drugs and would rather take the safer route by calling backup. Izuna is just vid related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcPElnvb6bI
>>542806504for me, i like negates but especially i like stardust style negates and effects in general that EXIT.like tributing/banishing yourself to resolve the effect so your resolution is safe.Omega and Zeta especially come to mind
>>542805080Why is starting the combo the only thing that counts in your mind? Why doesn't Diabellstar ending on DM count? Why doesn't illusion + souls count? You talk about inane caveats, but here we are...>>542805334...Because he made the arbitrary caveat of "1-card combo" when there's plenty of decks better than either Red-Eyes or DM that don't/didn't have one card combos. Like this guy >>542806197 said it has a fuckton of searchers to make up for it. It's just abitrary condition after arbitrary condition to act like DM is the worst thing in the world. There's a reason he completely ignored the shit here >>542802787 and dismissing archetypes as too small to count (only proving the point that DM isn't that bad all things considered).
You could probably just give Red Eyes 4-5 free extenders that summon Black Metal Dragon from somewhere and nothing else and it would accomplish something from all that material
>>542807203One day all our pet DM archetypes will get a SD with a bunch of starter and cool shit. w-we're all gunna make it...
>>542804234dueling nexus has ranked ladder for it now
>>542807546What does DM offer Diabellstar past Destruction into Timaeus quickplay into Dragoon? What is further investment into Dark Magician adding to that endboard. What is Dark Magician doing to start Diabellstar plays.If you can't tell the difference between Terrortop, Orphys Scorpio or Mitsu vs Halq or Verte there's really no fucking hope for you
>>542807906Just put the answer to the question in the bag.
not only has your favourite DM deck already been fixed, it's also been expanded upon and evolved and does tons of cool and unique shit. in rush duel
>>542808037I accept your concession and clear lack of understanding on Habakiri vs Predaplant Verte
>>542808228But my fav DM deck is Ra... Rush duels don't have any of gods
>>542808302New
>>542808228>SpoilerThat's legit where most of the Red-Eyes support goes, and it's kinda annoying seeing why RE cards only to get hit with the "Rush deals" logo for them.
>>542808231>Still doesn't just answer the actual question.
Would souping lunalight with branded make the deck too congested? Maybe ratios would at most be 2 of everything? For genysis.
