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If you use>Pugilism>Technique>Poison Skin>Pyromancy>Newtform>Master Repulsion>Roil>Grave ChantIn Achra your win doesn't count
>>542942008Please, let's keep the "you didn't beat the game" memes out of /rlg/
You guys don't like the rougelikes I like... maybe its coz they're likely roguelites
>>542930469>tried digging the trenches for log walls because thats all the material i had on hand to contain the tear >get one half built before the monsters coming through got annoying and i was beat to shit>decide to use the remaining planks to board up the windows>a flaming eye sees me as im boarding up the last one>book it out the back door as they smash windows and walls >spend the night in the gas station down the roadwould have 100% died if it wasnt getting dark out as i ranshit is beyond fubar but i got guns and ammo on me
>>542944647That's not your city anymore, that's their city. Time to go hunt down an augmentation clinic or whatever kids do for fun
if you use the long ponty stick or the quarterstaff in cataclysm, you didn't beat the game
>>542930469>yeah you need to leave the reality bubble, it can't spawn shit if it's not on screen>>congrats you got an eternal monster spawner now that you cant get rid ofis there really no way to close portals? i remember hearing you can use an artifact to do that, but i never did that.
if ya'll ain't playin a transgenderedfolx in cataclysm you didn't beat the game
>>542949517The Blob says ... trans lives matter, black lives matter, free Palestine/Kaya and if you don't agree I'll send my fursuit zombies after you.
>>542947561>scouted around in the dawn light>like three star vampires and two eldritch hunters near the portali think youre rightshit is past the point of no return>>542948975>i remember hearing you can use an artifact to do thati would kill to know if it exists
>dda>car now auto-drives faster than 12mph (up to 40 it seems)finally. i was told this was impossible by devs>you can now trade from your car. all the stuff in your vehicle storage shows up in the trade screen. it shows up twice if you're standing on top of the storage when you open a trade
I literally cant stop tabbing
https://youtu.be/-13LUfagQhY?si=7IJA2eUmFAesOR7B
found a small engine block on the road, dissassembled it for the steel chunks for my anvil and put the leftovers into an ironshod quarterstaffI need to find more steel to finish assembling the rest of the easily accessible toolsitems I need: either survival 4 for bog iron -> steel or just more steel lying around, maybe I can bait some zombies into smashing this hippy van...I should make a smoking rack so I can cure these pelts easierthere's a grinning coyote near the closest source of water/salt waterat least I have a large clay jug (150 units) worth of both so I won't die of thirst but damn that's annoying
>>542949517you can just... change gender [sic] with 'y' from the character screen. why would you want estrogen pills when you can just do that?
>>542944493I like crimson. It's very rouge-like.
neat, dda has highways now
>>542958828because their fetish isnt to be a woman, its to be a woman as a man
>>542961539woah cool
and here we go, three bone flutes later and I have four survival, which is enough to autolearn thisshould be enough to build enough of a toolkit to disassemble the nearby hippie van enough to replace the broken pieces of this RV I found and move my bed and kitchen closer to my work area lol
>>542964613God, that looks awful.Here's some dead guy's basement, I just disassembled everything in it because I'm waiting for the sun to go down so I can haul his eight solar panels (and all the scrap from all his electronics, I guess) four city blocks over....I'm fucked as far as installing them till I remember where I saw those Hi-Voltage Proof quality gloves though, I think, that's kind of a bitch.Maybe I'll try a poverty woods run next- It feels like I'm not powergaming by any means, but still. Honestly, I'm lucky to have my head above water. I should probably just move to a better house instead of installing these solar panels at the first base I established.
>>542965970electronics are great but yeah the poverty woods run is comfythere's very little you actually need from civilization to go from zero to hero, although you can certainly speed things up with some choice finds, and I could never give up vehiclesespecially tailoring, you can completely skip tailoring in the early game if you raid cities which is too convenient
>>542961539it's pretty cool how you can just take the highway and travel hundreds of overmap tiles. it autodrives through the highway weaving through the cars, autodrives over the bridges (overpasses), takes ramps on and off. >>542966153what are you doing for food?
>>542970471wolves killed like fifteen dogs and then I killed the wolves and I found a butcher knife and a potI could have crafted both a butcher knife and a pot before running out of protein bars if I wanted to but scavenging them out of the city was easier and I found a backpack and food that gave me a morale bonus doing that so it was worth it
>>542966153can you really skip it? if you don't get any tailoring, you won't be able to repair your gear. And the kind of stuff you get in cities isn't useful for much more than staying warm... you won't find a kevlar vest or leather-padded pants.>>542970593isn't butcher knife a pretty advanced recipe? in any case, i think there's a poverty woods mod called innawoods. i haven't tried it before, so maybe i should.
>>542971509>isn't butcher knife a pretty advanced recipe?it is currently day 4I will have the leather patches by tomorrow if I rush for them (I won't)>can you really skip ituntil you have fabrication 7 to make a sewing kit, yeah
>dda got rid of lardfuck. that was such a good food.>>542971676that's crazy you have an anvil, flatjaw tongs, swage & die, metalworking chisel, and it's only day 4. >sewing kiti think you can make most recipes with a bone needle
>>542972219many things are possible when the game isn't trying to be completely unfun
>>542972219>i think you can make most recipes with a bone needlethe better tools give better results and make the early tailoring levels a lot less painful
>>542973960better results how? aside from repairs
>>542974340yeah, repairs
>>542972219I'm rapidly realizing I don't want to go back from BN.What's the point of butchering a giant freak creature if I can't render his fat into lard and cracklins and pemmican and all kinds of breads and cookies and cakes?Just how long do they think a full grown adult human's worth of meat should last?
>this triggers the worm girl>>542974428you don't understand. that sounds awesome. someone might feel threatened. that's problematic. have some estrogen pills and birth control instead
>>542971676>"hot gripping" instead of "tongs"What's next, are they going to rename the "anvil" quality to "surface"?
>>542980482there's already a surface, anon.nta but i prefer "hot gripping 2" and "grinding 4" to "flatjaw tongs" and "angle grinder"
>>542982032Couldn't it just be "tongs 2" though?
>>542949517"Caution: Do not take if male."
>>542974428Realistically it'd last around a month if the guy weighs an avg. of like 50kg
Is there any reason NOT to swap out my SUV for a humvee?
>>542972219>Lard is a copy-from of tallow which does nothing. This is both good because indeed lard is "pig tallow" and bad because it introduces a looooot of redundancy, duplicate items, duplicate recipes, confusion across the entire codebase etc.noooo not my free shit!!!! im going back to baby nights for all my free mutations and cbms and food and shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>542989224once more the broken crafting system strikes.It doesn't even make any sense, they've already moved from direct references to the tools with shit like "hot-gripping 2", they could easily do the same with the ingredients and solve the whole problem.Just make the recipe use "untainted fat" and have lard/tallow/etc... just be tagged with it.Or do the opposite and pare down items to generics and have then just use different names based on origin, so for example all types of fat are just "fat chunks" but if you get them from a pig they're called lard.
I know a guy who's contrarian like that on the interneteven his friends don' know if that's just his level of brainrot or if he gets his rocks off with it but they're both horrible outcomes with no redeeming qualities whatsoever
>>542991701>if you make fun of my idiocy then you are a contrarian (le bad)>only type characters with a circle above themI am coming for you, janny.
>>542948975afaik there's a single use artifact to do that in CDDA but Kevin is a fag who hates being able to identify artifacts so its just pure RNG if you get rid of a tear or smite yourself with fire and lightning
Did bright nights die off or what
>>542988024There's no reason not to remove those seats in either one, as far as I can tell.Captcha: Ork Hp(I saw a guy was working on adding some 40k to BN using the old psionics stuff for psykers)
>>542994402I'm wondering about 5 width vs 4 width and if the diesel consumption will be too much. I already think that the SUV uses too much gasoline.
>>542999236I was thinking that the width might be a concern too desu, but... Yeah, probably. There's plenty of atomic cars around, why not salvage some plutonium and reactors?I don't figure you need all that space anyways.
When I play the CDDA and the game tells me my survivor tamagotchi is doin good it helps me focus on eating well and going to sleep at a good time in my own life.Any roguelikes for that feel?
>>543002293i always remember to take my multivitamins when i play cataclysm
Sometimes I wonder if there really is a roguelike for that feel, like for each feel there must be a roguelike for it. Like rule34
>>543002293>Any roguelikes for that feel?C:BN
>>542936231Oh it's really nice to see one of my wins on the OP!Thank youI'd like to reaffirm the effectiveness of Tengu Peltast of Apohis.It's my third win on a row using prestiges that I had never tried before.And this time I did get to BTFO the astral dungeon boss!
i feel the inside of yo momma's pussy. with my dick.roguelike for that?
>>542944493There are four conditions to roguelikes>Grid based>Turn based>Combat takes place in the same map in which you move, without a separate screen>RNG content (items, enemy placement, terrain, etc.)If all four are true then the game is a roguelike. If one or more are false then the game is not a roguelike.simple as
It needs atomic turns. Sub-atomic/Molecular turns will make it not a roguelike.ONLY TYPE CHARACTERS WITH A CIRCLE (kaykl) ABOVE THEM
>>543001298nearly all the cars are totally wrecked with my loot settings. just getting this one was a rare find. i've seen some atomic cars but they're all trashed.>all that spacehonestly, i wouldn't mind moving all my loot onto my vehicle and living like a nomad. I've never really done that before while having an NPC follower.
Is Ninja Gaiden a roguelike?
>>543005205>Difficult as fuck>Turn based (game runs on frames, 1 frame = 1 turn)>die a few times and have to restart the level (basically the same as restarting the game on level 6)rogue liku nearly confirmed
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>>543005403>turn based>but no atomic turnsnot a roguelike
>MDFw^Elv at the bottom of Lair, just found the autumn katana(+8 anuto manifold assault)Should I train longblades and swap to this thing?(I've got 14 maces and a +1 venom flail and a +1 heavy war axe)I've been trying out detonation catalyst and it apparent;y combines with MA so I thought that might be interesting, but I dunno about spending that many skill points when I already have something usable.
>>543013096It's a bit hard to switch into Long Blades as a Dwarf since they have -1 to it, but your current weapons are pretty bad and that one is pretty good. Consider keeping it in case you find a Long Blades manual so you can switch without wasting a lot of exp, since Forgewrigth has to use exp on a lot of skills already.
>>543013096If a +1 venom flail is your best mace right now then it might be worth swapping. Hard to say for sure because I don't know if you have a good spell to train instead. Going into lair branches with just a +1 venom flail is kinda shitty so if the autumn katana is the best thing to put your XP into then it's not a terrible idea.
>accidentally leave my safehouse door open>stay inside reading a book>grab my cellphone for a second>eyebot wanders in>game does not pause or go into safe mode because they're not aggressive I guess>eyebot orders me to drop my weapons a bunch of times>finally realize what's happening >stop reading and kill it>start hearing noises outside>eyebot spawned some 15 riot control and police bots outside my safehouseThat was fucking intense. I managed to John Wick my way out and wreck them but holy fuck. What's something useful to do with 15 broken robots just outside my crafting spot?
>>542988024the humvee is really really wide
>>542994169I'm playing it right now and blogging about my new character in this thread?????
>>543014373Alright I'm down to spider 2 and I'm getting assraped here. I've spammed Elvy down to the point I can't heal myself anymore, like two dozen selfheals from fucking ord spamming motherfuckers and pharoah ants.I don't know if I can keep this up I'm getting killed here.I found acq and read it and got fucking 600 gold.I have all the level 9 spells but not a single forgecraft one, barely got ogrebs online but no ignitte poison, also not a single fucking shield in the entire game so far. What should I do about this?Try Elf? I've got will++ and if I swap a ring I can have rF+++, though I'd have to go down to 3 Dex for it(does that matter?)
>>543016257take them apart, you can strip the frames for superalloy if you're playing a good fork
>>543017378Focus all of your training exp to Alchemy and get Olgreb's to castable range. That shit will clear Spider easily alone.
>>543017378just pacify the spiders?????
4th win on a rowThis build is getting me all the lightning prestiges
>>543018512I got it working but the masses aren't really an issue, it's just the big guys.>go down stairs>cast olgreb>4 OODs >go up stairs>1/4 health remaining>get followed up stairs and am now surrounded>can't summon anything, can't run>spam heal self and OTR untilk space is made>run away spamming golems until everything chasing me is dead>repeat five times>I have now cleared one downstair into spider 2
>>543021090Always try to alternate the stairs you're going down if one set of them are clogged, that will give you enough space to fight one on one if you get one of the OoDs upstairs with you.
And I'm dead. I simply could not kill fast enough to stay alive.I blame having no shield, nothing better than chainmail, nothing better than a fucking +1 flail, and no offensive spells besides OTR.Really I should have just gone to Elf I don't see how it possibly could have ended up worse and I might have actually gotten some fucking equipment! >>543021818Yeah bad move on my part but they were all in the middle of a giant room with a billion enemies. It would have been amazing OTR fodder if I had enough defense to last even a single turn before having to run away, I could have killed the entire level at once.But even the 9 who came up were enough to trap and finish me off.
it's coming along
>>543019219You can probably do almost any prestige if you're just blasting them with 8 Herja attacks per action from max range. Herja working on ranged weapons is one of the more broken things in Achra since it always does damage even if your attack misses, and you stack up a ridiculous number of attacks with more levels.
>>543003970You sound like you're enjoying laying with women, big guy.Surely you don't sell crack to middleschoolers just to be a faggot?
>>543018351>you can strip the frames for superalloy if you're playing a good forkAw fuck, that reminds me, I took a dead robot and scrapped him halfway across town in the middle of a zombie horde without realizing that I was turning one wieldable corpse into 900 pieces of metal....Still, shit ton of metal. I should go check that out. Or just break into the firehouse near me and go on a murder spree. Firefighting Robots just hose you down, right, that's not dangerous is it? :^)
>>543017378You should've had Olgreb's up by Lair desu, damn boi. Gish is one thing but don't multiclass too damn hard.You're spamming +Inv in Lair, right? Training Evo/Invo feels bad but still
>>543029409I haven't ran into any of those before, I assume you can just hose em down with a coilgun or smash em with a quarterstaff
>>543030043I'm more of a Point Flare em or Archery Fag em kind of guy- It's remarkably freeing just wearing a fencing suit and a 60 encumberance retard backpack that I never have to take off.Never seen a coilgun, but I assume it mulches robits
>>543030295you can craft itit shoots nails, which have 12 damage, 9 pen, and 3 rangeall told that's three rounds of 27 stab damage and 29 armor pen at range 15 per trigger squeeze as long as you can keep feeding it UPS power, which will mulch most things but is especially effective against anything with armor
>>543029409>Firefighting Robots just hose you down, right, that's not dangerous is it? :^)I think it does torso damage like how the riot control bots do
Is it me or has DDA been very choppy recently? Even from day 1 the game has some strange slowdown when moving across the map. TLG and BN never get like this, even far into a run.
>>543029553I got it castable fine, I preskilled 8 alch hoping to pick it up. I just barely found it in Orc:2. I also got to 8 inv too, never failed a single heal, only finally died when I got trapped and raped to death unable to do anything but spam heal wounds every turn until I ran out of piety and couldn't cast it anymore. My verdict on Elv: really unimaginably strong and useful, but only to sustain, it can keep you going so long as you're making steady progress(like using OTR to poison everything to death) but it can't save you if you get cornered.I think next time I'll go with Zin, not as spammable but for example I would have EASILY walked away from that gangbang with a single sanctuary whereas not even 20 heals could save me. I'm also considering switching to axes instead of maces next time, single target is nice but the real sticking points are when I get stuck surrounded and can't summon anything anymore.
>>543032472I heard it was the LITERAL FUCKING DUST SIMULATION that causes that.
Arsonist finished. Phoenix can just put Scorch on everything for free and I stack dexterity purely for defense and Albaz heal on prayer. Would love to have more willpower but I would burn myself to death with Phoenix passive.
"God this guy is having terrible luck, I'll just do an MDFw run and see what happens">First run gets unlucked by a hob and salamander as the first pack, whiff all three shots and literally get two shot with no room to kite for mana>No worries, happens to best>Second run ends in D:8 with Maurice, Amemenon and Joseph all waking up around the same blind corner when Blazeheart explodes against a bear>Couldn't make it to the stairs without getting slung to death, TP took too longFuck, if anything half the trouble with it is that I have to wait 4 turns + the summons deciding to walk over and actually fightI mean, sure, theoretically the Blazeheart can walk up and fold Sigmund's laundry with him still in it (one tapped, ay yo) but... Ah, hell. Almost had Plasma Beam castable too, that'd've been fun.
>>543033091If you kill things in less swings that also stops you from getting surrounded. I think your real problem was just killing things too slowly, which would be the same if you had a trash axe. The big tanky scorpions and such in Spider have like 20 AC and will screw you if you try to hit them with a bad weapon. A +1 flail is REALLY bad at that point in the game.
>>543030684Fuck this gay earth
>>543034212yeah it does require a book and some serious multidisciplinary skills
>>542977976>this triggers the worm girlwhat does xhe have against foodperson anyway?>>543005062>moving all my loot onto my vehicle and living like a nomad.i tried doing that with an armored van a while back and found i ran out of space fast, even with cargo spaces in every slot that wasnt the driver seatgranted im a hoarder but still lel
>>543034929yeah I gave up and just drove home and unloaded the largest and heaviest piles of shit and the guns and ammo I didn't needturns out you don't need 300 plastic chunks, or 150 amplifier circuits
>>543033892The golem trapped and betrayed me several times. The most tragic moment is when I was on death's door and desperately needed a bodyblocker and he fucking ran away after a jumping spider like a child chasing a butterfly and then took a nap in a corner while I got raped. Bonus points for this same thing happening the next THREE TIMES I summon it in the same situation!
>>543034209I probably should have gone full two handed battleaxe since I couldn't find any shields.
>>543036064big axe is correct
>>543036064I usually use a 2h in the early/mid game. Bucklers suck ass anyway. You need a kite shield to really justify putting points in shield skill.
>>543034445I feel like I'm ok on that front, so far.Just a week into Summer now, though, so I may be falling behind in gearing myself. Just wasted a night to find out that A: Brutes are spawning now, B: Brutes will yeet me ten tiles and scrape my entire body and C: You can't (take down) an Exercise Machine and BN doesn't have the recipe to construct it
>>543018351Did Kevin remove superalloy because the prefix super sounded fake to him?
>>543034929Food person is an allegorical slur for trans-worms....Or they think it's too goofy and not serious, which tracks with them taking all the cool shit out of BN while still not keeping feature parity with DDA (lmao)
>>543038773yeah Brutes are brutal and you do not have the melee skills to fight one right now>>543038931>KevinKevin has no power here
I hate that it's technically correct for me to put this thing on. Talismans are the worst fucking system they ever added to nu DCSS.
Another one.This one had a lot of issues with healing so a bunch of divine interventions. Still won first try and defeated the Elf bitch. Poison skin didn't help me nearly as much as I hoped, I think I murdered most enemies with the physical and lightning damage before the poison damage was dealt, so I just wouldn't heal from weak minions.Now the only lightning prestige left is samsi and I like the psychic tree way more than the poison one (probably my least favourite together with life).>>543025687Yeah. Aim + Herja is a brutal combo.>>543033480Good job anon.But isn't killing yourself part of the point of phoenix?
>>543035891The fucking GALL to make you have to stand next to the fucker but he ALSO doesn't have a strict AI like Scarab/Beetle. I really think it ought to be a little more predictable or a little less demanding- Either or. It's bad enough allies need you to blow an entire turn to get them to stop hitting the quokka instead of the +6 Distortion Gnoll (hasted)(throwing nets)(hasn't showered in weeks) with T.Spell slot allocation feels rough. I spend 2 on Bee, 4 on Golem and I've got 4-5 left by the time I get to Lair and I wonder what I'm sposed to take. I guess it's SUPPOSED to be Lightning Spire, I think if I do anything else I have too many gaps or... or something? Mephitic seems like a good use. I don't know if I really want to be training Necromancy because it's got those long chants and FW spells want you to sit around and dance, not keep Fugue of the Fallen rolling and rush in to maximize Animate Dead uptime, so I think you're sposed to look elsewhere for support.I think in DCSS most builds you're putting something together for regular fights and you're putting answers together for as many overlapping situations as possible- Big crowd, tough melee fighter, dangerous caster/ranger, bad status effect, etc.And it feels like FW wants you to train melee and mix it up with your boys and it ALSO feels like you're training two generic "regular fight" skillsets and zero "Big Solutions" so like... If I'm just going to be reaching for a wand or scroll/pot when shit hits the fan...
The glaghar paired with 9 extra attacks absolutely melted the king
>>543039108kekthe classic -1 armor gambit, you love to see it. 1.5 damage retaliation is too stronk, nerf plsScarab Form Wu Tang clan is pretty fuckin ebin tho, so I'll forgive em. Just this once. Still could use some work.>>543039542Good job anon.But isn't killing yourself part of the point of Apophis?
>>543039542>isn't killing yourself part of the point of phoenix?It doesn't have to be. You can either farm for willpower or cast your prayers repeatedly, but you can't have both advantages from Phoenix at the same time. Phoenix has some of the best prayers in the game and they will kill you if you farmed willpower. If you stay low on willpower then you can put 500 stacks of scorch and blind on the entire level WITHOUT killing yourself.
>>543040028Apophis is about dying but bringing every fucker down with me>>543040141True
>>543039687Yeah so far my impression is that Fw is a free ticket through Lair with zero effort, and then a punch in the face afterwards as all your spells become completely useless.If I'm reduced to soloing spider with a battleaxe in plate armor why the fuck did I bother training FORTY FUCKING LEVELS of spell skills?
>>543040291You can literally just not cast spells as Mountain Dwarf and still be a top tier species. No one forced you to train that shit.
>>543038935>taking all the cool shit out of BN??? Wormgirl is working on TLG, which is forked off of DDA, BN was forked off years earlier and Wormgirl has nothing to do with it>>543038986Then who removed superalloy?
>>543041131seems fine to me
>>543041330Then what the heck was >>543018351 on about?
>>543041660are you retarded? I said you can disassemble riot control robots and the other police and military robots for a secubot chassis, which can be further disassembled into superalloy plateshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcQjiej9xko
>>543041131I can't keep this incestuous indie development scene straight anymore, sweet jesus.So if DDA is "all realism, no fun allowed" and BN is "Lots of fun stuff, 40% less (pointless) autism simming" then what's TLG's niche?
>>543042406realistic autism by somebody who isn't Kevin
>>543038773Honestly what really has me cooked is that I go to bed every night with 2 or more limbs bandaged and antiseptic'd and this is as high as my First Aid is and I STILL can't read Guide to Advanced Emergency Care
>>543042248>IF YOU'RE PLAYING A GOOD FORKWhich implies there's a fork where you can't do that, so I asked "what, did Kevin remove superalloy?" which seems like a reasonable assumption for what you meant by that. (And I actually recall a bit of discussion from DDA's github about whether "superalloy" was proper realistic, but it didn't result in removal back then) If that's not what you meant, then what is the bad fork where you can't get superalloy from those things?
>>543043110oh, sorry I try not to think about DDA at all any more and didn't even realize that you could be trying to talk about that dead fork, my badno, I have no idea and was just bullshitting
>>543043267>I have no idea and was just bullshittingoh, well alrighty then. thanks for wasting my time and calling me retarded, I guess?
>>543033892The class is tricky to play. The best I did with it was reaching Zot and then get blown up by Tiamat. Shit's wacky yo.
>>543043524you're welcome, broI went and checked nornagons and it doesn't seem like any of the superalloy stuff is left in DDA except for the vehicle parts (armor and ram)
>>543044001Ah, so I guess that discussion did result in some Kevinning, but not the full Kevin. I haven't played DDA in ages, it's been BN for me since getting pissed off about my bug report being angrily dismissed by that jackass with the baby avatar
>>543044478>I haven't played DDA in agesyou should stop thinking about it
>>543041131I'm not interesting the race, I was just trying out the spells. And gradually I've been forced into Md, and then more and more melee, and at this point I realize I'm basically just playing a worse MiFi.
That's all she wrote.Changing the javelin for the jade pilum wasn't really worth it. A few more extra attacks aren't nearly as important as extra range and I got into a really bad spot against the yellow queen because I spawned into an open area with no cover and there was she plus a bunch of yellow demons, all which outranged me.I'm starting to think that the king is genuinely easier than the astral dungeons, with the exception of the blood themed one which is piss easy.
>>543044769meant to quote >>543040586
>>543044645I don't, but hey, people are talking about it in the thread
>>543042475Not really it’s more like harder near-future DDA, with focus on consistent and cohesive lore/content
>>543044864>I'm starting to think that the king is genuinely easier than the astral dungeonsDepends which version of the king spawns. The freeze/entangle version of the king is the dangerous one for most builds because he will put you down to your minimum speed, kite you, and take 5 turns per turn you get. The dungeons tend to have a shitload of HP and you have less levels to fight them with, but they're not going to hit you with huge stacks of status effects so they are much easier to heal through their damage.
>Do lab start>after days of surviving, finally reach the exit which is in a house basement>3 zombie horses were camping the metal door to the exit and ran in the second I opened them>diezombie animals seem to be extremely common nowkeep seeing antlered horrors, woodland wights and decayed pouncers everywhere
What do I do for food, longterm? Just keep raiding more homes for beans and rice? Hunt down a Foodperson warehouse? Start my own farm? Kill and preserve a hundred wasteland sausages?What's the quick tierlist there? BN, so I think I don't have to worry about vitamins, just mutagens (not that I've ever, or that I'd know) (do I have to take these multivitamins? Does it do anything?)
>>543044769DE supremacy, only train casting, only worship Magic Godsâ„¢
Guys I need help, how dafuq am I supposed to go down from this hotel rooftop? The doors are electronic and closed and there is no other way
>>543047187>The dungeons tend to have a shitload of HP and you have less levels to fight them with, but they're not going to hit you with huge stacks of status effectsThe green and blue dungeons do hit you with a ton of sickness, scorch and freezing.
>>543047661I got bored of DEFE, every run was basically the same.
>>543044864The Yellow Queen is a genuine bitch to be desu
>>543047774how did you get up there?are there any ledges to jump down onto?
>>543048561"Large Building" StartI found a ledge and savescummed myself to victory
>>543047507Multivitamins can improve your hidden health stat, which can help fend off illnesses. If you eat healthy it's not super important, but if you're cramming junk food and lard you might want to take one now and then. A farm is the best long term food source, but I've survived by nomadic scavenging before. I think the latter is more fun, but apocalypse stardew valley has its own charm.
>>543048730I was going to suggest smashing some fences and trying to make some improvised lockpicks
>>543048812I don't think I've ever gone farming, I mostly just hunt and scavengeenough boars and bears and moose will try to pick fights with me that I can always keep myself fed, and you can just throw it in either the smoker or the freezer and be fine for monthsI like to roleplay by attempting to keep a balanced diet and find some grains and corn and stuff like that by scavenging
>>543047824You might be right. I guess I just have selective memory because you can choose not to fight them if you get fucked by their abilities. Whereas the King is always going to fuck you if he rolls a bad skillset for your character.
>>543048884That probably would be a better option, as now I'm surrounded by zombos
>>543047507It took me so long to dissect everything that my mayonaisse only lasts like 4 or 5 days now- I guess the perishability meter transfers over, so the half rotten wasp eggs mean I get half rotten mayo?Not how it works. Mayo shouldn't have the same shelf life inside a refrigerator as it does outside, either. Ah well. Live and learn.I'm definitely starting to regret putting this smoker right next to my big cool chair. Oh well, too fuckin bad I guess- I can just plan on (dying of carbon monoxide) smoking while I sleep, since my mattress is off in the corner.So. Killer Kebab. That means it's really good, r-right? Not that it KILLS me, right?
>>543047774is the building on fire?when i did that start i was in the same situation and the floor below was on fire i waited for a safe spot in the floor to burn out so i could drop down
>>543052223time moves a lot slower in a refrigerator than it does at room temperature
>>543054478I can't argue with that logic.If it were me, I'd whip the contributors till they added a second value to toggle between, depending on if the item is cold or not.Oh well. Runnin out of books to read, I think I might have to actually start exploring some again- At least find a fuckin torch somewhere, it's really cramping my basement hovel workshop's full potential.
>>543056962>torchdo you mean a welding torch or the British term for flashlight, because it's better to use lamps and solar panels for static installations
>>543056962>a second value to toggle between, depending on if the item is cold or not.It's not a binary either/or, the change depends on how cold it is, so root cellars will extend shelf life a bit, and refrigerators more, and freezers the most.
Oh cool thanks I really understand that. Very cool, tileset! Neato! Thanks! Kill yourself, now!
Ah, fuck.>>543057775Ah. Fuck. I knew I shoulda just looted the gunstore and left.
>>543062829Other answers we would have accepted would have been "That's why I've got all those grenades and C4 from the soldiers and supply crates" and "I wonder if the bow's constant overpenning is actually viable in combat- No way, right?"
This is where roguelikes peaked.
>>543062829>>543057775Wait, I got these backwards.I see.So make uh... Four display values and update it based on that. Whatever, I'm not a project manager. Sheesh.
which cataclysm should i play
>No lands of achra newsIt? Over.>>542942008I've won without any of those :)How?Very simple my friend, first I fill the screen with summons. This creates a self feeding loop in which the screen is cleared.There is no second step.
>>543063885whalesmake sure you try saving the game inside a vehicle
>>543063265It's a gradient, actually, not four "preservation" slots. Just think of the remaining time as "how long this will last if the power goes out." And if you're really concerned about it, get it to frozen, which stops the timer and displays a frozen tag
>This will haunt you in your dreams.>Would you dare desecrate the mortal remains of a fellow human being?>Your imprecise surgery destroyed something.>Your imprecise surgery destroyed something.>Your imprecise surgery destroyed something.
>>543065625(mushy)(frozen)(old)
>>543066220did you use the bionic detector? what did you lose out on that was worth the horrendous morale penalties?
>>543066220This definitely wasn't worth the prozac- I should've just gone to the radio tower, but I had to see what 40 fucking signatures on the inf goggles looked like when I turned the lights on and firebombed 'em. Not the worst haul but I've already got heap big archery going on. Maybe early carbon fiber is ok? It's a decent gun collection, I should go pick up that FN-P90 in a couple nights I guess, too.>>543066910....No clue! I just saw a handful of nurses and survivalist zombies and lumped em with mister feral survivor here and figured I'd bite the bullet and go fishing. I dunno if you can take trash bionics and turn em into burnt-out ones to craft good ones with, but I've got a few recipes.Maybe if I let them rise as a zombie and then kill them again I'm not so bummed out? Whatever, I'm gonna hang out in the goon cave, get high and read some books for a day or two with a vibrator shoved up my ass, I guess.
>>543067881yeah, if you let the ferals revive as zombies and then put them back down it will preserve the bionics and you won't get the morale penalty from cutting them up
Just got back from a 3 day vacation, can't believe the mods are Njerpez sympathizers
>>543063126>remake versionnah
>>543067881You made 8 servings of an 800 calorie dish fatso, you better not fucking cry about it>>543069578It's so obvious, why didn't I think of that.
why is it an AR "pistol" now?
>>543072701Thats just a variant, the AR-15 is still in the game.
>>543072805I'm asking about the AR pistol. It used to be a pistol, and it's been in the game for years.Looking up the tag, this is the modular_ar_pistol and the ar_pistol item is now a bullpup rifle. what?
>>543072701anon do you know what the National Firearms Act is
>>543077165nta, but noWhy? pls :)
>>543078458https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsE0naVApPU
crowd crush is such bullshit.very nearly died fighting a handful of generic zombies that can't even hurt me. barely even realized on time what was happening
>>543080479it teaches you not to get surrounded and get your shit rocked, anon
>>542994402Is there any way to reload an ammo belt?There's an M249 that I fixed up but I don't have any ammo linkage for it. Just a belt with 28 rounds of 5.56. I added three cargo carriers and a steel ram, then fixed the damaged parts as well as I could. >>543077165I'm asking about why the AR pistol was renamed from AR pistol to AR "pistol". Essentially, I was hoping an anon had read that drama, so that we could have a laugh.
>>543085197>Is there any way to reload an ammo belt?>There's an M249 that I fixed up but I don't have any ammo linkage for it. Just a belt with 28 rounds of 5.56.Unload the beltThen activate the linkages to relink them with ammo
>>543085197>reload an ammo beltyou can unload it and remake it with as many ammo linkages and rounds you haveI forget if you can add more to one if it's been started but I would imagine not
>>543086898>I forget if you can add more to one if it's been startedYou can, just reload it.You need to have belt links obviously.
>>543090195can you craft those?
>>543090537You can in BN. I suspect you can in DDA, but I haven't checked.
How much do you think people "cheat" with savescumming in ToME? Mainly by force closing the game with task manager when in danger. Someone I know revealed they savescum like that, then I looked through the discord (yeah I'm gay + suck cocks) and saw constant arguing about savescumming with there being like drama over players "revealed" to be savescummers etc. It got me thinking because ToME4 really is such a long game that I think most people will be severely tempted to trivially back up their save / savescum after 30+ hours. It seems like a case where 90% of people will end up cheating and then just avoiding talking about it. What do you think?
>>543093476The discord is full of trannies who are stuck on Nightmare mode because they suck at the game.There are many small ways to exploit the game. Playing in ASCII mode will reveal invisible enemies. Saving the game will reset enemy AI on other floors (and most people will do this unknowingly because the game defaults to saving on entering a new floor). Don't try too hard to compare with other people as long as you are comfortable with the game itself. I personally can't give less of a shit about discord trannies who give the shittiest opinions while they can't win a game on nightmare/adventure.
>>543093476I really don't give a fuck if people savescum because it's a fucking video game
>>543095081One day of eating like a fat fuck wont make up for a month of 10 kcal diet
>>543095081Soldiers in training sometimes eat 8 or 9 thousand a day and still lose weight.
>>543097425>Soldiers in training sometimes eat 8 or 9 thousand a day and still lose weight.Fucking KEKSure thing
>>543095081Calorie intake is fucking ridiculous in this gameApparently smiths ate enough for 5 people when they had to spend a day at work
>>543097425>>543097762Those were american soldiers
I found some guns. They don't look much better than what I already have, so I mostly grabbed some LR and 9mm guns and ammo to train.>>543098012>>543097425i've been eating around 8000 every day for a week at least.I have Fast Metabolism if that makes a difference
>>543097762The regular level is 3-4 thousand, but that's insufficient during intense training.
>>543098965>Fast MetabolismOH NONONONONOnever get that shit it bricks runs
>>543100819I don't give a fuck about what you read to pull those numbers out of your asshole but I've spent 6 years in and the military is NEVER giving you that much food to eat in a day and NO ONE trains that "intense"The only people I've seen lose weight during "training" are those that go for SAS selection and that's because they don't fucking feed them for days on end.No one from infantry to artillery to armoured needs 8000 calories a day for whatever super rambo schwarzenegger training you think they're doing
>>543042248>are you retardedsays the vocaloid shit random youtube link reposter
Is it better to active hunt or passive hunt in URW?
>>543110362Is it better to be a waggie, or live off passive income?
>>543110362Both works But large scale passive hunting, aka trap fences, basically means you are settling down Personally I'd rather wander around the map looking for quests and treasures
>>543110362From my own personal experience, passive hunting for small game is simply not worth it. I only build small traps around my settlement specifically to scare away rabbits from eating my crops.Once you understand how to active hunt properly, tiring out the animal, you can get reindeer and elk pretty easily. Hunting an elk or a few deer in the winter and drying out the meat can set you up for months.When you build a settlement making a huge trap fence with pits (no spikes so the animal lives longer for you to find it before it rots) is a great longterm project. You don't have to add bait to it and it will passively get you reindeer, elk, wolves and bear.
>>543093476>>543093637To expand on what anon said, I think it's important to at least be honest about what difficulty/cheats you're playing with if you want to discuss the game difficulty.If you alt+F4 because clicked the wrong button in a level-up screen on accident or something stupid, I wouldn't worry about telling anyone (unless you're talking about UI).Conversely, if you "beat the Master pretty easily with a simple build" and it only took you 11 tries? Shut the fuck up or admit you're a poser, you're literally only sabotaging other people's gameplay growth because you want to be seen talking about the game and don't mind giving bad advice to do it.Personally, I do kind of wish I had Roleplay mode on for all the Qud saves I ripped by "walking downstairs" (dead to 11 Dawnstrider ray's from a unique's pack) or "whiffing three times in a row on the Chaingun" (it overpenned me like Bubba at the State Penitentiary For Criminally Insane Rapists).But that doesn't stop me from telling you that you can clone draught Sixshrew a dozen times and scum him for polygels to get infinite cloning draught neetbuxs.
is this for real,how can i burn 11000+ calories and it's still not enough. I'm going to run out of food at this rate.>>543098965at first i thought, "this varmint rifle is awful. the range is less than my pistol". but it's pretty decent now that i've fired about 500 rounds out of it and got to marksman/rifles 3.>>543102272how does it brick the run?
>suicide drones deployed>tear gas>"oh that's no problem, i'll trigger it, then just dash away while i wait for the gas effect to pass">suddenly stamina gets locked at 0>die to... ???
>>543119081It doesn't tell you that you need to eat more because of how much you've recently eaten. It tells you you need to eat more because your overall calorie bank is low.At least, I think that's what messages like "you feel like you haven't eaten in days, despite the fact that you have" are supposed to mean. (not an exact quote)
>>543093476I actually do it if one of my escorts die because they're insanely retarded and march to their fucking death all of the time. I actually stopped doing it for all of them because it's just a chore to keep up with how much they want to die, I only save them if they're really valuable for a build, like tinkers and maybe sun paladins.
>>543119490Your last move used 12 standard turns of energy, anon. What the fuck did you do?Pulling out a foldable weapon takes 4 or 5 seconds at worst, I think
Oneshotting my caloric needs with the mutagenic wasp egg korean foodI can't fucking stand it desu, I'm "hungry" and it's asking me if I want to waste calories by overeating.Guess I go to bed hungry
>>543122668like I said, i was moving. my last move was to move NE.probably something about the gas
>>543119490>>543122668Crossbows take 1200 energy to reload by default. I think that's supposed to be affected by your strength though
>>543124485Oh, like you actually breathed it in.Yeah, that shit fuckin sucks. No clue what the current values are- Probably something like this, but they really wreck your shit (never mind that you'll spend 1 in 3 turns coughing for the next half hour)
>>543125074yeah there were four or five of them that exploded right next to me. I didn't bring a gas mask. In the past, these things just made you cough a lot and lose turns, it wasn't an instant kill.i thought at first i got crowd crushed but i probably aspyxiated
>Meanwhile, a hazel grouse enters your view...>Abort task?>Meanwhile, a raven enters your view...>Abort task?>Meanwhile, a mallard enters your view...>Abort task?Fucking URW, let me do handcrafts in peace.
>>543126401Same shit in CataYou'll ignore a zed wandering in and out of the far edge of your sight a dozen times and then the next time you get prompted "Warning, the nurse attacked you!"And you get stabbed in the face three times in a row with a scalpelNo easy way to swap between safe mode loadouts either, as far as I'm aware, which sucks because sometimes I want "any zombie in vision at all" and the other 90% of the time I want something like 10/6 spaces away.
Since we're experiencing a Cataclysm renaissance, what's the long and short on farming in Bright Nights? Can I just build planters indoors? Or use surface greenhouses/rooftop gardens/underground marijuana grow ops year round, or anything like that? Do I have to water them all the time or what?
>>543127035yeah it's fucked. from what i know, the easiest way is to use the safe mode manager and have a duplicate set of alerts, these with a max radius. you can just disable the top couple and enable the bottom couple, leaving the middle ones as customs.it's not great, but like you said there's no easy way to swap.>>543125074yeah it was basically instant death. stunned inside a tear gas cloud and taking damage
>>543102272>never get that shit it bricks runsskill issue, just eat more, it's not that hard>>543110141https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrRBOJMifCc>>543127275they're extremely hands off but I don't do it muchI have not tried any of the indoor planting options
Is this a roguelike?
>>543128614No, that's a handtrap.We weren't even in need of a bump, man...
>>543119081>>543128440it doesent really brick runs but its goddamn annoying and you'll have to eat like a pig. Thankfully a single animal kill gives plenty of meat and lard to keep you fat and healthy.
Am i a roguelike?
>>543129531is there a way to set up loadouts? e.g. pick up 20 pemmican automatically before leaving
>>543129780afaik no but you might be able to set up zones that work to similar effect
>>543129780God I fuckin wish. I've been fantasizing about it for days now.I just try and hork down food whenever I'm not full (in BN, which I suspect has the "get fat and take massive health penalties if you don't know about it" mechanic removed) in the morning and night, but fucking... 11,000 calories. You can pop open the debug menu and check your health/calorie stores to get an idea of how badly you're getting shafted.But like anon said, look into butchering (or dissection, bizarrely much easier to set up and you can just loot a scalpel off the nurses for max tool quality) a couple critters and you'll have more meat than you know what to do with- Don't use the charcoal/electric smoker recipes though, * build a smoking rack instead.
>>543131512yeah that's what i did, found a cow and some boars and made pemmican,i've never done farming in cdda
>>543126401Do your crafting inside a house with no windows
