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Why Me Edition
Last Thread: >>542467803
>Read First: https://i.imgur.com/lwWTTp9.png
>PSA: https://rentry.org/AntiwhineMkIII

▶Cloud Services
https://featherless.ai
https://novelai.net
https://openrouter.ai

▶Frontends
https://koboldai.org/cpp
https://sillytavern.com
https://gitgud.io/mir/storypad-qt
https://github.com/lmg-anon/mikupad

▶Additional Information
>Chat Models — e.g. AetherRoom, Claude: >>>/vg/aicg
>Local Models — e.g. Command R, Mistral, Qwen: >>>/g/lmg

▶Game(s)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620

▶Tools & Resources
Wiki: https://aids.miraheze.org
Prompts: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/
NAI Guide Collection: https://rentry.org/guide-collection
Other/Historical: https://rentry.org/aids-miscellany
>AID: https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you

▶/aids/ Events
Themed Prompts: https://aids.miraheze.org/wiki/Theme_Fridays
>Theme Fridays have transformed into Theme Months!
>Write prompts for this month's event, Monster Month! It's not actually Horror Month, please ignore the last OP that claimed it was Horror Month, the baker responsible has been sacked. >>541595997

▶Model News
>(10/01) Z.AI releases GLM-4.6: https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6 ; NovelAI updates untuned preview to GLM-4.6: https://novelai.net/updates
>(09/29) Deepseek releases Deepseek-V3.2-Exp: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929 ; Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5
>(09/26) NovelAI releases GLM-4.5 (Untuned Preview) for Opus: https://blog.novelai.net/text-model-release-introducing-glm-4-5-untuned-preview-for-novelai-opus-4aa866c8a0d5
>(09/11) NovelAI releases Character Reference: https://files.catbox.moe/08fdu6.png
>(08/21) DeepSeek releases DeepSeek-V3.1: https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/1958417062008918312

▶Thread News
>(10/17) Emacs Update: >>543061369 – https://files.catbox.moe/fkzq51.el
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What's new in the hood my niggas?
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Have they fixed GLM slop yet?
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>>543078105
Just use Sage's
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>>543078141
Sage's pretty much is the default now, but there are edits
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>>543078668
I tried both extensively, and I think Sage's still better than the new default one.
Which is weird, because they're kinda similar
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>>543078810
>>543078141
Sage? Why are you talking to yourself in 3rd person?
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>>543078810
speaking of the prompt/prefill
I've found that putting the list of "do nots" in the prefill and not the system prompt has helped tremendously
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>tell the ai to not use triplets
>get this output while testing
What a bratty little AI
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>>543082042
>tell the ai
Chatshit doesn't belong here.
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>>543077646
Avoid NovelAI.
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poor little gay for pay
his proxy hopping days are numbered since they doxxed the proxy site owner
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>>543084718
>for pay
He's like a cock janny.
He does it for free.
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I sure hope nobody fucks me while I'm looking for my glasses
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>>543082042
>GLM is a dragon
How did I not notice this until now
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I need to peel myself away from generating four quintillion pictures of catgirls getting dicked and try the new textgen model.

I don't even know what the meta for textgen is these days.
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>>543087375
If it makes you feel better, we don't know the meta either
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>>543084595
Nobody cares.
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>>543087375
>>543089125
The meta is devs know better than you. Unless you use meme setting, it's next to impossible that you will run into any slop that the schizos are crying about.
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>still pretending like nobody can criticize NovelAI and also acknowledge certain criticism is unfounded
Boy, you love poisoning the damn well on everything, don't you?
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Attacking a company you hatw with groundless truth isn't "criticism."
Feel free to post your setting (you won't) if you really need help.
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>>543090785
Criticism isn't hate. Which you know, this is just your "NAIfanboy" mask. Get a life, you monumental faggot.
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Then let's see your "criticism".
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>>543090927
GLM has slop, as it's an untuned instruct model. The default doesn't eliminate it. You know this, of course, you just want to claim everyone is a schizo, despite the fact that you've not once used the model yourself.
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Nobody here is buying your act, troll. Let's go back and forth the rest of the day, since you're so intent on being a fake fanboy.
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>>543091265
he didn't even delete the post with the esl shit in it lmao
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I will say it's funny Sora 2 came out and CF didn't try to generate a golden retriever getting punched that didn't look like hot dogshit like the last time he did it with one of the first local video gen models.
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>>543092817
I still can't believe they thought a sora sloptok was a good idea
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My favorite oddly specific Kayra trope is when he decides to put references to non-existent game mechanics in his text adventures.
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I took a training course with mostly normal people in their early twenties and two out of seven would take every opportunity to chat with AI anime girls on their phones
crazy
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Is there a way to JB the extended thinking version of Opus? I've been able to run Sonnet no problem, but Opus seems to need prefill to get past the filter, which the thinking version doesn't seem to allow. I wanna see if the thinking Opus 4.1 works any better (it's already pretty alright if not for the isms), plus this will probably be especially important whenever Opus 4.5 happens.
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>>543105894
Not really? To prefill is somewhat antithetical to reasoning models since they're trained to start with a thinking start token. You're replacing that with whatever your prefill is, and if your prefill is anything more than said token, the thinking is tainted. That's not unique to Claude.
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>>543111512
>I have no clue how SEO works so I will post this screencap again
You're just showing how retarded you are every time you repost this
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>>543124013
>SEO
Retard.
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>>543111512
Reposting the same non problematic image and arguing there's an issue (especially when the sites you shill present the same non-issues) is pretty retarded. Don't you have better things to do today?
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>She took a step toward him, her posture挑衅的, her smile a razor's edge.
I love Chinese models! Erato doesn't have this problem btw.
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>>543132075
There is no issue.
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>>543130948
You're not helping your case
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>>543132207
Nice meme. Legit have not had that happen even once.
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>>543132525
no u
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>>543133078
I have had that happen a small handful of times, unfortunately, but not too often for a story that's 200k words in. One of them actually explained itself as the character slipping into Sinnohian or something in his excitement, which was neat enough to almost keep.
From what I can tell, since sometimes it'll try translating afterwards, they make sense in context, they just, well, aren't in English. I am slightly surprised that there isn't something in the system prompt and prefill or something about trying to keep responses in the same language as prompted unless prompted otherwise, but things likely don't quite work that way.
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>>543134506
I really should make a multi ended Pokémon prompt with lore. We have the context for it now.
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>>543104262
Cute!
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>>543103361
What a weird world where waifuism has become almost normal.
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>>543135041
It's always been normal to embrace sex, up until the first monarchs started getting queasy and greedy, and demanded their subjects have no fun. Look it up. There's a noticeable pattern throughout history where greater serial rights leads to puritanical crackdowns in the make-believe name of decency, which inevitably leads to further crackdowns on rights. If a man can't waifu, all other rights are in jeopardy.
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>my phone auto corrected sexual to serial
Next paycheck, I'm chucking you into the fireplace.
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>>543135909
Sure, but I mean more in the Pygmalion style of being in a "relationship" with fictional characters. I wonder what'll happen if simulated romance becomes good enough that the majority of people choose it over partnerships with another human.
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>>543136730
either procreation will be utterly commodified, or relationships will be become even more performative in order to compete
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>>543134689
It's been fun just watching a group of kids do kid stuff but also get into the emotions and bond of having a Pokemon. Like, yeah, they were involved with stopping the Devon Corporation from demoing a product that would block all emotions from Pokemon, but they're also manning a booth for people to ask questions, such as why an Eevee might not want to evolve (maybe it just wants to be the best Eevee, not something else) or why a Riolu won't learn Force Palm (it'd rather search and explore things rather than fight and doesn't want to use its power that way). Eventually they'll probably do a bit more traditional battling, and I do have to contrive some scenarios for two of them to get Pokemon, but that's for sometime in the future. I figure something Water type, and maybe a Grass type, but something neither super rare (or a conventional starter) nor common as a Rattata.
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Anons using this for long-term stories, are you tracking what happens in the story with summarizations of scenes or something in that sense? (Like how Sillytavern auto-summarizes the story or how Novelcrafter summarizes each scene for you). If so, which method are you using?
I wanted to do a 'CYOA for a bit but I'm afraid of it losing track of the story after a while.
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>>543136730
NTA. Weirdly, my experience has been like this.
>almost 30, introverted, autistic, don't like going outside or socializing with people I don't already know really well
>no IRL friends except the best friend I'm married to who's just like me, which is great but that's our entire social life
>do AI scenarios of romance and lovey dovey stuff
>realize that I feel isolated and want more real world connection. AI definitely isn't going to cut it.
>this is actually a real problem for me now because it's scary and I've never tried to make friends before, but it won't go away

So now we're both making an effort to go to social events. It's hard and involves a lot of anxiety and hard emotions but maybe something good will come of it.
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>>543141675
I ask for it to write a story bible, which gives you a logline, a digest of the characters, their motivations and story themes.
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>>543142478
Do you have any example?
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>>543142378
Wait, if you're married then shouldn't you do lovey-dovey stuff with your spouse? Sounds like you more just need regular friends, no?
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>>543142535
You mean the prompt for it, or the result?
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>>543143469
The result
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We need more action. More content. More love.
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>>543143132
Yes, basically. But somehow the AI stuff made me want more real world connection instead of less.
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>>543143558
This should give you a general idea.
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>>543144634
And with what intervals do you generate this? Doesn't it end up losing details of the story? Because I tried to generate it as soon as I finished each scene and realized that GLM often only summarizes from the middle of the scene onwards.
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Where are the presets? How do I make GLM do better?
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>>543144881
This one was requested while I was in the overflow. You need to prompt it to give you specific details about the plot.
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>>543144881
you can fix that by manually leading its response to the beginning
I don't know why it does that either
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>>543145365
A dude dumped like eight a few threads ago.
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>>543145365
Once catbox comes back, I'll post my scenario that may help (but is not guaranteed)
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>>543144346
That is interesting. Personally I'm in the opposite boat: I have a good amount of friends, never had a romantic partner, and I've started to wonder if I'm okay with just simulated romance. Maybe I'm just bitching out, but sometimes it does feel like sharing a life with a whole other person would be trouble than it's worth
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>>543136730
I want an actual flesh and blood girlfriend soooo bad, it actually hurts.
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I tried GLM and it's pretty mid. Sonnet 4.5 on the other hand mogs, but is expensive. Sigh...
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>>543146639
Care to share proof that the model you don't use mogs the other model you don't use?
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>>543146521
But why though? Not saying you're wrong for wanting it, but I'm curious what your reasons are. It's kinda strange innit, that there's this abstract notion of "wanting a girlfriend" even without any specific idea of who the person who'll be your girlfriend is. Like when I make a new friend, it's not because I want to "have a friend", it's because I met someone specific that I like to hang out with and want to hang out with them more. I'm probably not making any sense, and I'm not saying you specifically feel this way, but sometimes it feels like there are weirdly commidified views of romantic relationships where it's something you need to "have" or "win".
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>>543145906
I used to be like this, until I started seeing my peers from the elementary school getting married, including one girl that I had a crash on but never made a move.
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>>543146923
The proof is obvious if you've used both.
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>>543148781
Sometimes I'm glad I moved 2+ hours away from my hometown
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>>543148905
All you do is every now and then type Sonnet is the best. Yet, not once have you ever posted anything you supposedly generated with it. Ergo, you don't use it.
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>>543148461
I want to start a family. I want yo raise children. I want to share a home with another. Hard to do that without another person to form a household with. Does not even have to be a girl. Would be fine with adopting.
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The blood of the rich shall feed my progeny.
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>>543148781
Yeah, seeing friends in good relationships is often when I get the strongest pangs. That's when I become more interested in trying it out. But also those friends often seem more emotionally stable than I am, or just have their shit together more. Maintaining a good relationship seems to require an amount of maturity and investment I'm not sure I have.
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>>543148781
>including one girl that I had a crash on
Well at least she didn't sue you
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>>543151392
Maybe don't be a creep? It's not that hard.
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>>543152108
anon...
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New mini update.
>I've now made it so system prompt, memory, and always on lorebook entries (things always placed in a fixed order at the start of context) will take from the tokens reserved for the story first. I've also changed the search range for lorebook entry keys to be `contextLimit (in tokens) * 3` characters. If you notice any problems let me know.
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>>543150402
I think I want this too but I don't know if I'm emotionally stable enough to take care of a child
kind of a shame really, I'm financially stable and could give children a good life otherwise
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>>543154915
I guarantee you you're more well-adjusted than certain saps who skulk the web. I believe in you.
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Any good guides out there/tips and tricks for NAI's imagegen?
I found out recently that it's actually not terrible.
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>>543154915
>>543151006
For both of you, questioning whether you're stable/mature enough already means you're doing much better than a lot of people. Honestly for something like having a kid it'd be more concerning if you had absolutely no worries.
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>>543157309
Negative weights and UC both work differently, so if you're not getting the results you want with the tag in the UC, try giving it a negative weight
Using both e621 and danbooru tags will work and can improve results
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The status page says everything's green, but it sure looks like there's some disconnect from the backend at present for NAI. Either that or it dislikes me right now.
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I love this cute little son of a bitch.
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>GLM, I need a name for a girl that uses light magic
Ummm... Lumina Everbright
>GLM, I need a name for a ice mage
How about Joe Frost?
>GLM, I need
Kaelon. Its Kaelon

God damn if this thing can't generate a normal name to save my sanity I'll just name everyone myself.
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>>543165415
I wonder if Elara, Ozone, and Kaelen are Chinese memes we don't get.
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>>543165415
>I need a name for a VRMMO
> here is your Aethelgard Online, sir.
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Do you smell it? That smell. The kind of smelly smell. The kind of smelly smell that smells... smelly. OZONE!
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Anyone having timeout errors?
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>>543132207
I have that sometimes with deepseek, especially in the *thinking* part.

>>543141675
I devide my stories into chapters as I go on. After finishing a chapter I ask DS to write a summary of the plot and an overview of the named characters in it.

I don't have a final solution yet for how to integrate these chapter summaries in ST. But I think going foward I'll put them in as author's notes, so they are saved while the context flows through the limit I set for it.
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>>543146521
I'm a 31yo khhv incel. I often wonder about the logistics of how it would actually work hour-to-hour to have a gf living with you. Like when I'm sitting on the computer in my bedroom, studying for my upcoming test, would she then sit in the kitchen next door and scroll on her phone?
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Kuru apparently plans to make the imagegen accessible for the colorblind. So desperate for funding he's catering to filth that deserves extermination now.
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>>543174012
yeah probably. it's like living with other people normally, except there's the romantic stuff involved. sometimes you do your own thing and they do their own thing, sometimes you guys do stuff together either on purpose or just because you happen to be in the same space and decide to interact, sometimes you annoy them or they annoy you
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>>543175623
This was a joke by the way. I just don't see how catering to a population that likely won't even use the product is profitable.
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>>543141675
I usually masturbate a few hundred words in so no
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>>543146639
Use sonnet on spicywriter.com, it's still expensive but it's better run there.
>>543174012
The blackpilled bastard in me wants to say you'll just get cucked but yeah I'm sure she'd be in the next room texting chad
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>the spicywriter shill is also a cuck
Why can't any of the trolls who harass the thread have normal fetishes?
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>>543175623
Tags: black and white image
You're welcome btw
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>>543176262
>still pretending what the CEO said won't happen
Fuck off.
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apparently it costs openai around $5 per sora video
lmao
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>>543187148
With those numbers, I find it hard to believe any company that doesn't rely on investors can afford video gen.
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>>543187148
Wait until a random Chinese startup does it for $0.5
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What's the lore behind Old Man Hemlock?
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I dunno why but Gemini gives me more than 50 2.5 pro uses. Must be 100 per day or something.
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what the fuck is the api endpoint for that new NAI text model?
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>>543188664
looking this up brings up just fucking pages of AI-generated stuff where the google snippet is something about old man hemlock telling elara some story or another. wow
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>>543189327
kek
that was me trying to find the origins of Elara
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>>543189327
>google it myself
>the clockwork heart of old man hemlock
>lighthouse keeper old man hemlock
>silas surprises old man hemlock
>an actual amazon listing for old man hemlock's trout fishing guide (surely written by some sort of llm)
https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Trout-Fishing-Guide-Hemlock/dp/B0DWYRNFZD
this is hilarious but genuinely disheartening
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>>543189327
>>543190004
lmao
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>>543190284
what makes it even worse is there are literally zero (0) relevant google results for "old man hemlock" if you do the "before:2019" trick
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Man_of_the_Lake
>Old Man
>most likely a hemlock
hmmm
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>>543191694
tree ghost in the machine....
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>>543191694
That was my first thought, but I can't find anybody actually using that as its mame prior to AI
Still, that's an impressive leap from "floating stump in crater lake" to "generic old man name of llm's choice"
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>>543191907
and by "that" I mean "old man hemlock"
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>>543187148
AI bubble doesn't exist btw
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>>543193642
Unlike the housing bubble, which is documented.
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>>543145906
never in my life have i wanted to have a relationship for anything beyond sex or what could be achieved with a normal friendship. ai text gooning is like the perfect middle ground between detachment and romantic shit for me. though, it does make me feel a little pathetic at times
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>>543199656
You should be more ashamed of not using upper case letters. Fucking disgusting.
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instruct models may be sloppy, but I love how I can do this
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>>543165415
What I do is switch to a less slopped up model like Kayra and reroll a couple of times to see what names I get.
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>>543207984
Might not be a bad idea
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Do you like this prompt? I thought it was funny
https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/6298
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>>543216417
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How do I make NovelAi switch back to Kayra in settings? I like Kayra and the choice doesn't seem to be sticking when I select it from the model menu.
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>>543217665
For good reasons, too. Kayra is ancient and bad and not good and not hold the current writing standard well and it isn't that good now.
You should put something in AN or memory to make GLM writes like Kayra instead.
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>>543217665
try refreshing and then trying again
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>>543217943
The ESL is lecturing me now on writing.
Kayra has a sort of finetune special sauce.
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someone who uses discord should tell NAI to allow people to edit their default system prompt
this matters fo stuff like AI roguelite and should be trivial to implement
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>>543218415
Hey anon, great news!
You can!
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>>543218670
Oh, wait
You want to set a new "default" system prompt, not edit the default system prompt
My mistake
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>>543218728
wording could've been better on my part
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>>543189327
>>543190004
This is purely anecdotal, but there is this guy that I've known for close to 15 years, he's basically a friend of a friend that I see once or twice per year whenever we both end up at the same grill party or some similar event
For as long as I can remember he's been talking about how he wanted to be a crime novel author, but whenever I asked him how the book was coming along during the annual catch-up session he'd usually say the progress was rather slow and that he wasn't writing a lot. That was up until last summer where he said he'd basically finished and was looking for a publisher to print it.
He'd talk about how he had 'used AI to find plot holes' and based on his general level of digital literacy I just KNOW that all he did was copypaste the entire thing into something like chatGPT with a 'does this have plot holes' or 'finish the chapter' query

As much as I like to just write one one-shot after the other solely for personal enjoyment I really can't even begin to imagine the kind of slop you'd have to navigate through if you were someone who previously liked reading stuff made by new or self-published indie authors
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>>543188664
>>543190004
new Count Gray?
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>>543218415
I would like a way to bulk edit across every story.
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>>543218415
Explain why yours is better than the devs' system prompt.
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>>543218824
Before AI writing was a big thing, one of my favorite little hobbies was going through libgen for "trash" romance books
Now it's fucking pointless because it's all fucking aislop. I might as well just generate my own slop; at least there's a ghost of a chance that it will be better than whatever chatgpt shit out
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>>543219036
Explain why you think acting like this is clever.
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>>543219252
>no argument
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>>543219426
Says the coward who did this yesterday with somebody else. Why are you so obsessed with pretending like NAI is perfect, and that nobody can edit the system prompts?
>>543090927
This is you.
>>543090427
This is you.

Grow the fuck up.
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Now go ahead and delete your comments and run away to another burner IP. I'm sick and tired of your shill act.
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t-thanks
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>>543218415
AIRL isn't using the web interface so their system prompt shouldn't matter. It can just send whatever system prompt it wants.
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>>543222995
I see
in that case, someone should really tell max loh to make it work
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Guy from here >>542531285 & >>542533563

>>542532940
I was supposed to link the story but I got busy the past few days. I also thought that I had to manually scrub out my name from the story. But it turns out, the shared version of the link also removes the name

So, here it is:
https://gemini.google.com/share/7d96b307bb13

Shindol's Metamorphosis but as a kid-friendly story.

~
Bonus: https://gemini.google.com/share/ccb20798a236
ShindoL's metamorphosis but with the supposedly "canon" ending
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>>543223494
/aids/?
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This is probably a really obvious thing to point out but with GLM-4.6 I've found you can reliably make the story throw wild curveballs at you just by typing "then something weird happened" or "then something totally unexpected happened".
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>>543224114
Its an ai-made story with ai-generated visuals. Yes its based off an existent story, but its still AI storytelling (albeit with something unusual this time: the Google gemini storybook gem: https://gemini.google/overview/storybook/
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>evil foxwoman
>gentle femdom
>ai makes my character act like turbo virgin
>calls me little twinkle
>bullied for acting like virgin
I do not care if it's ultra cringe it's so back..
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a custom system prompt
it's not perfect, but it might be worth a try
https://files.catbox.moe/5xbtw5.scenario
It does a pretty good job of reducing triplets and the gpt "layered sentences" cancer
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>>543230516
I'll give it a try next time I write something new
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>>543230516
what's a triplet?
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I've been using Gemini 2.5 Pro for the past 2 weeks to run a narrative adventure in the setting of Blue Archive. I don't know anything about this shit, so it was a week of trial and error before that to figure out how to avoid narrative drift. But now it's more or less flawless after I figured out what a Context Window is and how to work around it.

The current end result is, this; A song composed by the main protagonist of the story based on the events up to that point. I used Suno to generate this.
https://files.catbox.moe/r6ofpg.mp3

I am really impressed on both accounts. Currently more entertained than any video game could serve me.
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I had a dream that there was a charity installing UV flashlights inside babies with some form of blindness to help them see things. Not sure where they were installing them, just inside "human skin".
And there were a bunch of cute girls there who didn't mind being cuddled. (I'm gay??)
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>>543235849
This is the future of fanfiction content, but also eeew gachafag
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>>543174012
I remember reading somewhere that it's like living with a sister that you can fuck.
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It's funny how posts here come in bursts
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>>543247117
My semen in your mother's face comes in bursts btw
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>>543247615
how wude
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>>543247117
that's just how the universe works, no big deal
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So NAI's GLM works with AIRL or not now?
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>>543251710
I don't think so
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>>543246796
I am sorry. We all have our vices. If it helps I haven't spent(yet?) and already played 260 hours.
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>>543251710
the answer is that, no, the dev has yet to implement it on his end
I recommend pestering him on Steam - I'd do it myself but I'm shy
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>Check the Discord
>Here is WRITING STYLE for GLM
>From this, you should see a dramatic improvement in GLM's descriptions, word choice, metaphor, imagery

Looks good, let's check the example posted:
>The little brass bell above the door announced my arrival with a note of cheerful, utterly unearned optimism. "Ting-a-ling!" it sang, as if I were bringing light and life rather than just the scent of rain and a mild case of existential dread. Inside, the shop exuded that particular fragrance of slowly decomposing paper that bibliophiles, in their infinite sentimentality, mistake for ambrosia. To me, it smelled precisely like decay—just the slightly more pretentious cousin of the mushroom farm I'd passed on the way here.

Holy shit, it's over for this slop model.
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>>543261963
Yes. I'm subscribed to both spicywriter.com and nai right now, I plan on cooming on one and then going to the other with consecutive cooms
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This post was sponsored by spics writer
>"Yo no onions bad writing o algo"
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>>543235054
the ai will tend to use three words to describe something
once you notice it, it will drive you crazy
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>>543261963
I never trust anything that comes out of that discord. It's always the same three or four “AI writing experts” who like to create the most convoluted things so that AI can create the literary equivalent of a wet fart.
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>>543262214
Based emer prevost poster
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>>543235054
These articles explains it better than I can
https://medium.com/@lombardiph/gpt-guaranteed-three-times-or-your-query-back-why-ai-always-lists-things-in-threes-e9dd39d54b84
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/halejacob_people-have-become-convinced-that-the-em-activity-7325619526304157696-TMw6
https://gptzero.me/news/the-rule-of-three/
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>>543217665
No model other than GLM has even been showing for me since my sub ran out. And then every time I swap to an older story where I used a different model, it just updates and re-saves with GLM selected.
Fucked up the order and brought 2 year old shit back to the top simply because I opened it.
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dumb kitsune, always trying to sound mysterious with their cryptic comments
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I want to switch to Kayra...
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>>543266683
Go to the account settings and try to change Kayra to the default that way
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Can't think of any ideas for the theme prompt, most of them are already done to death
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>>543262214
this but nai and chub
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>>543272759
Just because an idea has been done before, doesn't mean the idea's been done by you before. There may be very little new under the sun, and a non-infinite number of ways to put words, but it'd still be you putting the words down, and odds are good that it'll still be novel in some way.
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Alright here's my submission for the month
https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/7767
Just a kitchen sink halloween town, and you're the new stud. Have fun.
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>>543278471
come back on the 31st
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>>543279056
I will not be here on the 31st
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>>543278471
I'll try to remember to link it to the anchor for you
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>>543263434
I like to have dialogue in Spanish and narration in English to fit the setting but the machine will keep trying to make everything either English or Spanish.
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>>543261963
Care to post your settings and preset, or do you just want to bitch and moan? For my purposes, GLM is better than Deepseek, Kimi, and Gemini.
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I bet the schizoanon who jumps at your neck at the slight issue someone has with NAI is also the porn obsessed one. Autistic people shouldn't have unrestricted access to the internet
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>>543286518
You just fucking know it.
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>>543286518
the trouble is, cf is doing a piss-poor impersonation of him, and he (schizo anon) is the main one telling him to fuck off
which is pretty funny, in a cosmic sort of way
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>>543286954
Because I like the thrwad and want it to forever, whereas he wants to stifle any and all discussion
Helping people is good. Acting like nobody deserves help, and that they should shut the funk up and accept mediocre gibs is legitimately retarded.
NAI isn't perfect. No company is. No service is. What works for someone may not work for the other. There is no shoe size that fits all.
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But instead of acknowledging that, people like >>543286518
Want to pretend like I'm a fan boy who attacks others. I don't. I want to help people who have issues. I share presets that work for me, hoping they will work for others.
Not once have I ever shat on somebody who had an issue with the default preset. Editing is good. I encourage editing. That is good civilization.
The shit head pretending like the defaults are the best thing since sliced bread deserves to have his balls chopped off and fed to a pitbull.
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>>543286518
As an autistic person I wholeheartedly agree.
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>>543286518
This is discriminatory toward high functioning autistics, which comprise most of the thread.
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>>543292263
You have to admit, the internet is a different landscape than the one we grew up with. These days it's virtually guaranteed they'll fall into some tranny groomer discord server. Cognitohazards everywhere.
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>>543292740
Have you tried not obsessing about conspiracy theories? It's far healthier than what you're doing.
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I trying to brainstorm names/personalities for these buns, any ideas?
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>>543292870
The one on the end looks like a Vanille to me
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>>543292870
Depends on what culture you want to use to develop names for them, what specific rabbit person cultural influences might influence it, and such. Starting from scratch seldom lends to quality names. Having a basic font of which to adapt typically results in it being better.
For instance, how are rabbit people in your world?
Are they distinct from humans, genetically modified humans, do they have their own nations, do they live alongside humans, are they treated equally, and more. All of that influences what names they may have.
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>>543293271
For instance, a second class citizen would have simpler names, whereas an equal citizen would have names of roughly the same complexity. Depending on the cultural context, the rabbit people may not have surnames, in which case that would impact how inheritance works. If they are a communal people who regard their home village their warren, that could, depending on legal requirements, result in every rabbit of the same warren having that name. Much as in real life for some groups. Just some things to consider.
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>>543293271
Well, I want them to be moon rabbits from the moon. But I don't want them to necessarily all be Japanese/East-Asian in culture/mannerisms.

>>543293264
The one on the right? I could see that, maybe she'd have a French accent too. I was also thinking maybe a russian/slavic vibe for her. Something where the women are stereotypically serious.
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>>543294438
Moon rabbits are also included in the mythologies of various Native American peoples and Mesoamericans, therefore, via colonial influences, Spanish, French, English, and Dutch names could also be regarded as potential influences.
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>>543294840
Seems like a bit of a stretch to include colonial powers, but the Native American thing is interesting, I didnt know that. In any case, I'm not too fussed with it making cultural sense. I'm more trying to come up with personality traits that I think will play off well with each other. Glasses bun can be a nerd... cause of her glasses. Maybe orange bun is more tomboyish and outdoorsy? Dunno about pink-hair bun
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>>543297038
She looks like either the shy one or the Luna Lovegood of the group
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>>543297220
>Luna Lovegood of the group
Yeah I was maybe getting a kind of spaced out vibe
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>>543297038
Depends on when the moon rabbits ceased contact with the people who worshipped them. For instance, the French had a lot of contact with the Cree, one of the people who venerated Moon Rabbits, while the Spanish conquered the Aztec and Maya, who also venerated Moon Rabbits. Also depends on how much divergence you want from OTL.
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>>543299362
lesbian sex
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>>543299550
Should be outlawed.
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>>543235849
I had more fun rping as an healer (like a support class) than playing an actual RPG
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>>543301068
You would have more fun with Sonnet 4.5
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>>543301068
I was having a lot of fun doing twists on the 'healer' class for a while. Like having a death knight who modified their dark magics into makeshift medical techniques, or a combat-focused character weaponizing her heal spells.
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>>543302114
Have you tried it with an actually good model?
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I hate slow, predatory smiles
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I was thinking on updating the soloai guide, but reading it again, I really don't think it needs any improvement, I literally have been using it like it says there since 2023.
Now, my question is... Have any of you actually used it for anything?
Here's the guide if you guys want to know what I'm talking about: https://rentry.co/soloai3
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>>543305636
Sonnet doesn't have this problem.
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>>543305636
Use Sage's prompt.
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>>543305636
This post is looking awfully preylike
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>>543306926
Use Sonnet instead. It is the best.
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>>543305636
slop in slop out
write better
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>>543307586
Sonnet has no slop.
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>>543307948
I don't even have to say it, you'll do it eventually.
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For everyone else, this is a reminder that you may want to start thinking and brainstorming about what you might want to write about before the end of the month. Your fellow anons no doubt have ways to add to your ideas, so feel free to play around with them in the thread—you might just inspire someone or become inspired yourself.

>>543278471
You're a bit early with this one, Anon. But I'll also try to remember to link it when the anchor comes around.
(1/2)
At 'male—" She' and 'ago. "—have', the emdashes should be outside the quotation marks and surrounding the action, showing the action as interrupting rather than the dialogue being interrupted. (This is different from the rule for a line of dialogue being interrupted by another speaker, yes.) In so doing, the period after 'ago' would be removed. You could alternately get away with ellipses instead of emdashes to show a trailing off to squint and read small text.
Though I'm not sure why she'd need to check again. Do they need to summon human males for many other reasons? I suppose they'd have to be summoning a reasonable amount of people and materials to have an official municipal summoning department.
In 'Frankenstein's & Daughter's:', I think I'd remove the first apostrophe and S to let the second one be the possessive for the shop. Alternately, you could have a throwaway line about how the '& Daughter's' was clearly painted onto the sign in a newer, different paint or something, thus making the original apostrophe and S still make sense since they were there from when the sign was initially made.
The hyphens in 'from--"' should be an emdash.
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>>543278471
>>543310236
(2/2)
I can't help but feel like there was originally a line or two after 'quite proactive"' and before the next line that got cut before this version. I would consider beefing up that next line by implying some moment of silence of you not saying anything. That way her sigh of impatience feels more merited. Something like 'After watching you try and fail to say anything for a few moments, the little'.
I'd remove the line break in 'duty." She'.
There's not much consensus on where, but a comma (or perhaps two) should go somewhere in 'Oh goodness no.'. Feel out how she would say it and where she might pause while saying it.
While in academic writing, using four periods to have a period with the ellipsis like in 'it....' is right in some situations, it always feels weird to me. From what I know, it's not used anywhere near as often in fiction, and when the point is to have speech trailing off, having a period involved seems a bit contradictory, personally.
I'd insert 'that' in 'knows what'.
You seem to be missing the rest of your sentence after 'types of monster'.
I'd consider rewording 'where, as the map says' to something like 'to which an arrow is pointed, along with the words'. As it is, it's a bit awkward to read.
I'd consider trimming down or reframing the chunk of story you have as a Description to make it a bit punchier, if not writing a new one altogether.
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>>543310236
>You're a bit early with this one, Anon
https://youtu.be/heLBlQgMfo8
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>>543310236
I refuse to contribute to this fake event. Theme Friday is our idea. Some faggot changed it to theme month because he's lazy to do the work.
We don't like that.
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>>543311305
Then I expect to see a prompt from you every two weeks, Anon. After all, you're not too lazy to not write and fill the space in between yourself on the old schedule, are you?
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>>543311305
>our
Implying you ever contributed a single thing to this thread
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>>543311847
I made offline NC.
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>>543312474
Pretty shitty contribution, given you didn't do anything to make it tailored for this thread. Cargo curling a front end and shilling it across multiple generals does not a contribution make.
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>>543313382
based
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>>543313382
>what have you done?
>here
>NOOOO Don't count!!!
Schizo
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>>543312474
You contributed once almost a year ago?
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>>543313974
>here
"Here", he quotes, as if CF didn't go out of his way to NOT make any changes or improvements this thread gave him regarding offline nc. It became something of a thread meme to respond to his shilling of it with a question/reminder on if he was going to do that. Which he never did.
Just because CF says it's a thread contribution, or hijacks the OP news with links to it saying so (remember that?), doesn't actually make it a contribution. Which kinda sums up CF's impact to AI threads in general.
CF is a net negative to all AI threads. Anything he does that isn't bad isn't unique to him, and anything he does that's unique is bad.
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>>543311305
starting a theme friday yourself is free :)
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/aids/ doesn't deserve my prompts.
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Make a comprehensive, step by step guide on how to participate in the event and I might.
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>>543319984
Post a prompt about monsters
That's it
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>>543320502
>Post a prompt
Nah.
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>>543320502
You're gonna have to break it down a bit more
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>>543322658
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>A LOW GROWL
KILL
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>>543325418
https://youtu.be/dyIilW_eBjc
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>>543325418
Have you tried >>543261963
As far as I see, there's no slop from his prompt.
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>>543325889
>existential dread
There's the slop
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Do you guys just call "slop" every time the AI outputs a somewhat common phrase?
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I don't feel existential dread, deep terror, blood chilling or any strong emotions when faced with everything in life
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>>543328389
I'm fucking sick of seeing 'a', 'is', 'and', 'the', 'I', and '.' in all my outputs.
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"[dialogue]," he said, his voice [something], his eyes [something].
She smiled, [predator or shit like that]. She laughed, [throaty or some shit], purring, "[dialogue]"
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>>543312474
Yet you can't crack the DRM and your program gets more embarrassing to shill the longer that goes on.
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We should boycott themes until he surrenders the position to me. I could run it so much better.
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>>543331297
Christmas in August oppression must not go unopposed.
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Any news on novelai's director mode?
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midnight lycanroc gijinka set
the punk ass girl takes (you) for a ride
https://files.catbox.moe/sf6yzu.png
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>>543247117
It's funny how my coconut gun can fire in spurts
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>>543337051
But what if you shot someone?
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I it is likely some retarded doomer will respond to me but I'm genuinely curious why novel tossed in GLM instead of making their own sort of model or I guess finetune for a newer model.
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>>543346176
>making their own sort of model
Not financially or technologically viable for the model size that has become normal and for the size of company NAI is. The resources just aren't there to create a Kayra in the weight class that is expected these days.
>finetune for a newer model
What newer model? GLM 4.6 released just a couple weeks ago, it's about as new as it gets.
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>>543346374
I meant them picking a newer model that Erato to finetune. Basically this new model is pretty detailed and cool but it fucking suuuucks for text based adventure mode. Blending character actions together in a single post instead of separating them between posts like I've had the other models do to fairly consistent results. Now I've got to cull things a bit by writing the character name as a header for the current paragraph and trim parts of the post off where it switches to other characters.
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>>543346176
You can save much more money by using/tuning models people made. Think of how much cociane and hookers devs could buy.
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>>543346969
>I meant them picking a newer model that Erato to finetune
I don't understand. What newer model? GLM is a new model. Do you mean a new Llama model, like how Erato was finetuned from a Llama model? Because the new Llama models are terrible and nobody should use them. Do you mean Deepseek or Kimi and are saying GLM is just bad and the others are better?
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>>543347157
Shit I don't even know what I mean anymore don't worry about it anon.
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I'm going to kill myself one day, I just know it.
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>>543347774
Tributing for effect is pretty shit since modern negates don't need to target you to stop it.
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>>543346969
Sounds like you're suffering from the default adventure mode system prompt
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>>543346969
>a single post
Chatshit belongs in /aicg/.
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>>543336406
Uoogh turning tomboy punks preggo...
Has there been any up to date guide on NAI image gen? The only trick I know to generating nsfw has been inpainting.
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>>543354490
It's a lot different than that now, and frankly I'm not sure where to start
I hadn't been image genning as much because I've been doing a lot of writing lately
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>>543353982
There isn't any trick, just put nsfw tags into the prompt, and it will generate nsfw.
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>>543328389
I call it slop when it repeats the same themes over and over again.
It has a thing with bureaucracy, existential dread and tech-speak that is particularly infuriating.
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>>543357573
...have you ever read books? Sentence constructions have only s few patterns.
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>We’re experiencing technical issues with our payments provider — this may cause disruptions when purchasing Anlas or managing subscriptions.
you have at least two weeks of sub left, right anons?
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>>543358815
I have enough Anlas to gen with GLM for a week.
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>>543132207
>>543133078
It happens with non Chinese models too lmao, Gemini has a lot of fuckups
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>>543358815
sub ends in 5 hours
at last, freedom
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>>543358815
could be due to aws being down
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>>543328389
it does get kinda boring when I'm going through a scene and I know with 100% certainty "choked sob" is going to come up
I can use the toolbox to make it less repetitive and watch it come up with "ragged inhale" or whatever, but it'd be nice if it did it on its own
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...what's wrong with being Dutch?
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hey lads, local is too slow, i was trying the free trial of novel ai. Seems pleasing enough, but it bugs out every 2 to 3 prompts when in adventure mode and i have to refresh the entire page to continue. Happens on every web browser, or device i tried it.
I enjoyed 100 free actions on two differents accounts and i was thinking to subcribe, but this issue is kinda killing me. Anything knows why might this happen?
Cant replicate the error more cuz im out of free responses.
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>>543374174
it's not as frequent as what you're describing, but NAI has never not had similar quirks on my Firefox profile
you would probably need to go to their dicksword to get any sort of help
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>>543373910
English is too g*rmanic to write love, you have to use the more Latin languages to do that.
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>>543374174
It's only the trial that's buggy, nai hates poorfags
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Is there some way to use thinking with GLM for NAI?
Messing around with it through openrouter, I think GLM is exceptional in that its reasoning trace is not just a waste of tokens. It's fun to read and actually seems to make the model smarter.
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>>543380002
try prefilling its response with <think>
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writing in my native language isn't half-bad every once in a while
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Is this Clauddy?
https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/local-anon-ac44c42613f8
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>>543380810
It just instantly closes it with </nothink> unfortunately.
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>>543386859
No thoughts, context empty...
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>>543392112
weird, because the official chat template says it uses <think> and </think>...
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>>543382159
The increased ability to do non-English stuff is definitely one of the neat side benefits bigger and better models bring.
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>>543246932
God don't tease me like that, anon.
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>>543407959
giwtwm
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>>543174012
>Like when I'm sitting on the computer in my bedroom, studying for my upcoming test, would she then sit in the kitchen next door and scroll on her phone?
Or sit right next to you and scroll on her phone, or study her own things.That is, if you are already living together. If not, please pay attention to your girlfriend, she came here to see you.
>>543246932
It's exactly like this... Depending on how's your relationship with your sister, of course. Ironically, a romantic relationship is more fragile than a sibling relationship, so you have to know the limits of how much a son of a bitch you can be. Siblings usually don't give a shit about that or are already used to it.
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>>543235849
Learning audio engineering(kinda?)little by little. I got the WAV base mix and cleared it up in an equalizer. I COULD get the stems, improve them more so the guitar comes out with more texture in the chorus, but that is too much work for too little gain.
https://files.catbox.moe/p8l386.wav

In short; Good music for AIslop.
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>>543415670
Remember, sensei, all your cum are belong to every student.
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>>543417946
My cum is only for my canon girlfriend Okusora Ayane.
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Prompts for this feel?
Also, does anyone remember a 2020 prompt about a truck driver and his female werewolf partner getting intoxicated by the dude's pheromones? I don't know if I just hallucinated that shit.
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>>543421586
That prompt sounds familiar
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Alright, that's one for the prompt idea file.
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>spend half an hour writing a prompt in novelAI
>get this
What the fuck? There's nothing explicit in there, at most there's some descriptions of a woman as very attractive, but there's nothing sexual or sexual words or anything
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>>543427779 (me)
Also I added some scat inflation porn.
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>>543427779
It's a server issue
The words in your story don't make a difference, length of context might
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>>543429393
I'm just shitposting.
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>>543429463
Get a life.
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>>543422314
It would've been funnier if they had both gotten blown off by explosive ordinance at the end and the eyepatch girl woke up missing her legs and got told the male soldier died
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>>543429591
I don't want to go back to being the blowjob queen in my squad.
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>>543429670
You have a weird definition of funny.
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>>543429670
that is the expected result though, she even mentions his "death flag" because of his confession
it wouldn't subvert anything, therefore it would not be funny
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>>543430303
You sound like a cuck simp. You will perish in the coming wars.
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>>543429770
You got me, I actually found it highly arousing
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Anyone know how to make a regex code that only activates the token when it is by itself, and not when it is included in another word? For example: elf, orc, and imp. Say I want imp, and just imp, to activate it, but not any other words that may happen to contain the imp token. What do I do?
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>>543432430
I don't know.
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>>543432430
You'd use the word boundary metacharacter.
/\bimp\b/
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>>543438674
Thank you.
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Any hot girls in this game?
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>>543429670
my story would've been as you said, with the marriage thing at most being a what-if epilogue or some kind of morphine dream she's having
the AI's context would retain all the gore even as it writes the "good ending"
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I have always been the daddyman.
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Curious about a thread that's all about story writing while spending most of my time in places all about rping. What's the general preferred model here? Context ice using a slightly modified Knotty (basically removing the "don't speak for user" since I'm not using AI to rp) and for me I've had the best success with chorbo for with 11-20 but more specifically the chorbo back around December-February that never got its own damn snapshot. Even though every update chorbo got made it worse I still couldn't find any alternate to my liking. I found gpt 5 chat a sidegrade in that it was better that current chorbo but still not exactly as good as the December-February chorbo used to be. I've since lost access to gpt all together which also coincided with it being completely lobotomized. All the free or cheaper models are used for rping but from my personal experience their all absolute dogshit for story writing.
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>>543458769
It's been a while.
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>>543458769
Lurk more. This is NAI thread.
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>>543458769
Most posters here use NovelAI. Me, I use DeepSeek and mikupad. Also, post above is our resident nigger. Pay him no mind.
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>>543459581
Get back to the blowjob stables, comrade.
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Let's see mikupad's story posts.
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>>543459581
Fair enough and also funny enough I started out with NAI (actually I'm old enough to have actually back in ai dungeon days, oh how the times change). Stop using it because I found it better to wrangle the bots everyone was using for chatting for story then paying for NAI and it's dogshit output. Okay that's unfair as I did for a time enjoy what I got out of NAI.
>>543459802
>Pay him no mind
I was immediately going to bounce but maybe not. I feel left out in the other threads not focusing on rping, especially the pony one as while I found it entirely fascinating I don't give a shit about Visual Novel format but it's sadly taken over the threads.
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>>>/v/723763328
>sillytavern thread on /v/ is infinitely better than this general
Yup.
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>>543460304
Every AI general would be better if you didn't actively skulk them to crosslink them to other generals in a pointless attempt to stir shit between them, dude.
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>>543458769
>>543459581
>>543460278
All me btw.
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>>543458769
>their all absolute dogshit for story writing
yes, basically we're just coping, waiting for NAI as one of the few that doesn't finetune for chat/assistant slop
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>>543460278
NAI recently updated to host GLM as a preview for the fine-tune they plan to give it. Please do ignore the guy actively trying to dissuade you from sticking around. That's all he does all day ling, every single day.
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>>543460462
>skulk
That's not a word.
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>>543460656 (me)
Forgot to mention that cum tastes really good by itself and it doesn't need a chaser or additives.
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>>543460739
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/skulk
Try again, bitch,
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>>543461047
Like this:
Hey guys I just came from dumb faggotland what model does this place use?
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>>543458769
I've been coping with models via OpenRouter. Never really got into Sillytavern. GLM has been somewhat fun, but I hope they can beat the slop out of it. I feel like that would be more worthwhile. As is, it's a placeholder. Anyway, what you been writing these days?
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>>543460857
I still don't see it. Can you show me?
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>>543461261
hey thanks man, a passage of time has occurred.
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>>543461047
>>543461261
Get a life and quit trying to drive away people who would be inclined to use the thread for more than trolling.
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>>543461351
>Anyway, what you been writing these days?
To show my cards a bit, full pony smut. Basically use ai for full smut fics. I liked NAI for a time but so much money wasted whenever I wasn't using it and while it's a pain hoping from public proxy to proxy I find the output and price range of $0 worth it. For the longest time it felt like NAI only cared about it's image gen and then final nail in the coffin for me was then finally updating textgen only for to have such incredible low context conspired to what I just found with proxies and SillyTavern. I logged in to see what the last model used before jumping ship but I can't see the old ones.
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>>543461980
did you check inside your anus?
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>>543461980
You do realize that, as a company which doesn't have investor money, inagegen is how they can afford to fine-tune things? Admittedly, Erato was a failure. Anyway, their latest model is in-progress, but their currently hosting a preview (untuned) version of a MoE model called GLM, which recently released. For my purposes, it feels better to use than Deepseek and Kimi, comparable models of slightly larger size.
I never dealt with proxies, though I find that too much of a hassle. I prefer paying to use models legit. Primarily, I've done that through Openrouter; credits there last a decent bit, though it's pay per token usage, and Sillytavern sucks ass, but at least it functioned better than NAI for the longest time. Recently, I've gone back and forth between it and NAI; I hope the fine-tune releases relatively quickly, as I feel like that would be an actual game changer.
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>>543461980
I can see why you'd feel that way, to be honest
I hope they finish the GLM finetune soon
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>>543462470
I'm getting tired of waiting and my diaperfic needs to be made now.
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Do you think the NAI tune will contain newer stuff, like Morning Glory Milking Farm?
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>>543462578
There's no fine-tune.
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>>543463004
Just like there's no dicks that you suck.
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>>543463004
When it releases, you'll have another meltdown. Worse than the one you had when their initial update for it released.
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>>543463141
Jokes on you, my last melty was from cum withdrawal.
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>>543463141
It will release after GLM 5, DeepSeek v4, etc.
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>>543463001
GLM 4.5's cutoff was somewhere in 2024; that book got published in 2021. Unsure how far forward GLM 4.6's data is.
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>>543463332
The only release you see is from the guys standing over you.
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>I only started using GLM when NovelAI told me to use GLM
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>>543463782 (me)
>also I love getting anally annihilated in greentext
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Working on a prompt right now and need some input from anons. It's about intelligent animals domesticating hot anime women and using them as mounts, pulling plows, as living war rigs, etc. The idea was Ratatouille + Redwall + Gulliver's Travels. I'm trying to decide if the girls should be normal people transported to the animal world and then enslaved via mind shenanigans, or if they're just a native savage species. Both are interesting, the former is arguably hotter while the latter has more room for speculative evolution and world building. I've genned a bunch of images for this and will post it all together when I'm done.
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>>543464021
I'd go with the former. But I will say that the latter kinda reminds me of Planet of the Apes where people devolve into a sort of ape cattle.

You could possibly combine the two by having a group of intelligent animals abduct women from a different dimension.
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>>543464401
>I came
Me too. In your mother.
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>>543464021
Just write both.
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The theories become more and more detached from reality as time goes on. Did you know that there is a scientific correlation between obsessing over conspiracies and psychosis?
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>damage control
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>>543463782
Why are you so obsessed with believing in falsehoods?
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>>543464778
Da mage cunt roll?
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>>543464021
Having women as cattle is based but having it in a furfag setting is cringe.
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>>543465168
Not really. Human cattle is a retarded fetish, furry or not.
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>>543462470
Why do I have to care whether they have investors or not? I pay them my money, their service is shit, their community management is trash, they don't listen to so-called #suggestion channel in their own discord, they treat textgen as a second class citizens. They decide to do business without investors' money and that's a shield for any critism now?
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>>543465785
>critism
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>>543464021
they could be native, but kidnapped/ransomed from a civilized area
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>>543465785
If you don't have intention to argue in good faith, I'm not going to bother entertaining your delusions. Their service is good for what it is—that they don'ttake investor money is actually good for the long-term, as that ensures they won't backtrack, unlike many companies in the industry have done. Textgen users are not treated like "second-class citizens"; you're just upset that development takes longer than you expected.
Go outside, touch grass, and feel free to not use them. Nobody's holding a gun to your head and demanding it of you.
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>>543466195
>long-term
Hosting a big model and give people infinity gens won't make them last long.
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>>543466726
You're ignoring that they're profitable, unlike companies that rely on investor money. In fact, they've outlived multiple competitors, because they don't rush things willy-nilly. But of course, you fail to understand that, because you're a fucking moron whose entire existence is wasted shitting up a random thread online for schizophrenic reasons that make sense to nobody but yourself.
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>>543463782
>Please generate more Sora 2 of me so I can kill myself after my shitty hack software goes a year without an update.
Woah, buddy. Did you really need to add all that context?
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>>543466939
>profitable
Consider how long they have scammed us with 8k context for $25/month, they sure is.
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>GLM supports 256k context
>NAI offers 28k context + unlimited gen. No tools. No reasoning.
Is it really cheaper when they give you 10% of the model's potential?
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>>543470092
You fail to understand how anything works. Also, you have no right to complain about that non-issue, given the service you shill is an actual scam who, with investors, have no reason to be this scummy: https://play.aidungeon.com/shadow-members
You will never be part of this community. Quit pretending like there's an "us" here. You're alone.
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>>543471212
And when they go out of business you'll kill yourself because you have nothing.
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>>543467229
regretting going so far with a symbiotic parasite story
it's not my thing and it's giving me the willies
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>>543471212
>AI immediately shits itself when going over 32k context
shut up pussy
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>>543471950
I had the opposite problem, really liked the premise for my symbiotic parasite story, but couldn't get it started in a satisfying way. Maybe I should start media res and leave the beginning for later/never.
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>>543473480
Sage? You're shifting from 8k is enough to 32k is enough?
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If everyone is Sage, nobody is. You're obsessed. Get a life.
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>>543478912
I'm not your boyfriend, Russian Faggot.
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>>543478912
> is enough to 32k is enough?
go back to masturbating to men Russian BITCH
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>>543481779
wew
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>>543458769
Knotty? Chorbo?
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he's not wrong, I guess
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>>543467229
I asked for a 'story' bible defining comedy rape, instant loss, and hentai sex rules and it gave me exactly what I wanted, actually amazed.
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>>543461980
>For the longest time it felt like NAI only cared about it's image gen and then final NAIl
heh
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is novelai dead? won't accept any prompt at all
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>>543497370
Both image gen and text gen worked when I tested it just now. Image gen took a little longer than usual but text gen was instant.
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>>543498261
text gen says error 400 forbidden or something on any prompt, and I've tried on two different PCs from different IPs
is it because I'm using a test account made with a random temporary email? is that not allowed? but if that was the case you'd think it wouldn't let me log in at all to begin with
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I'm able to generate text without issue too. If there's an error it's not affecting me.
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>>543499270
>is it because I'm using a test account made with a random temporary email? is that not allowed?
lol it's definitely that cause I logged in now with a "real" email and text is working now
why let me log in at all with forbidden temp emails? weird
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>>543499559
It's probably just an anti-spam/anti-abuse measure for the free trials. It'd probably work fine if you paid for a sub on that email.
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>>543506348
Built for smashing with hammers until it stops moving
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>>543508413
I think you'd want something that cuts or pierces over bludgeons considering the material.
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>Kayra is hilarious because it is retarded
>Erato can't tell a joke ever, never ever funny
>Just put comedy in as a tag on GLM and it is pretty funny

Now I'm one canvas of desecration away from finding the promised land
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>>543467229
good post
>What are you working on?
I'm sick so nothing at the moment
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>>543512879
The only reason I can play around is because I'm home sick from work.
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>>543512537
I just love Kayra's strong bias towards slang and informal language, it really does make him a unique AI.
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>***
>Characters:
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What's up my naiggas
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>>543525261
What's updog?
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>>543510420
It'd be satisfying to hold its battered leather hide and feel all his smushed squishy bits and bone fragments sloshing inside like jelly.
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>>543467229
revisiting my gecko thief in a magic college idea
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Anyone else having issues where it starts copying long phrases or sometimes entire paragraphs as the story goes on long enough? It's more than just everyone being a symphonic canvas. I tried messing with the repetition settings but mostly managed to accidentally all the transitive verbs for a little while.
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>>543538562
No. If anything, stories have a hard start, but once you're balls deep, it spits kino after kino.
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>>543538562
I've had it happen a few times but in my experience it's rare
I also have a high randomness preset though so
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>>543461980
Judging by your shit grammar and likely mobile device the problem is not the AI and no amount of context will make your experience better.
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>>543541273
What's your preset?

>>543461980
I got a 2.5k paragraph breathplay Fallout Equestria out of a basic dogshit prompt with tags, and I'm not even a brony. Sounds like a skill issue
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>>543549156
It's bundled in this scenario file
>>543230516
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>>543467229
Working on? It is more like imprisonment.
My oldest stories.Those that made me.. Most of them sport the : 'over 4 years ago' tags
For the past two years or so. I have replayed the same coom story over and over again. Same boring shit over and over and over again...
It is the pinnacle of my creation. But is is also the least.
I loathe it. Yet I have accidentally conditioned myself to worship it...
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>>543467229
dc comics fanfics
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>>543554821
Same. Time for my comfort feet prompt.
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>>543554821
Every story I make is the exact same threesome in a different setting.
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>>543550057
Thanks, the outputs are much less repetitive now, and the number of triplets is gradually declining. I'll have to try on a brand new story and report back
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>>543230516
>avoid purple prose
Finally, someone!
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https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/
Might be fun for those who are interested or looking for something to play around with.
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>>543569194
>chatshit
I sleep
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>>543569389
The fun is in converting it into something usable. It's infinitely easier with the help of GLM.
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>>543569931
GLM is unworkable. Not a single person has posted anything of value they made with it.
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>>543569931
... You got a point
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>>543467229
Azur Lane harem with ChadSKK
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>>543570063
Right now I'm just searching for stuff that I might use for later.
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>>543572383
A real Chad doesn't have sex worh anyone. None of these whores can be trusted. Bitch slap the cradle and make her cattle.
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https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/definition?source=chub&type=character&path=bananana%252FAtlas
>her
YJK
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>>543572983
This is better than anything /naids/ has ever made. Actual creativity, sovl
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>>543572812
>If affinity value is 200, increases all base stats (aside from Speed) by 12%.
Tis a necessary sacrifice for humanity.
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>>543573621
>t. Hick
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>>543569931
I really wish world info and lorebooks were interchangeable. It would save me so much work...

Converting cards for NAI is literally as simple as making a lorebook entry for them with the description. And occasionally stripping away retarded formatting.
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kek
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>>543575247
What's also useful is having the writer's toolbox expand on the descriptions.
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>>543573792
Lmao like you give a shit about him Russian faggot. Embarrass yourself some more.
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>>543575247
>>543576040
Being able to just ask it to rewrite every single lore entry and "improve the prose and structure" has been an absolute godsend. My lorebooks from the past few years are a graveyard of meme formatting
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>>543573150
you throw a fit every time someone posts beast THOUGHEVER
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god i hate being poor
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>>543575719
jar jar would be great at giving head
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>>543576812
Nobody but that freak of nature harem
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>>543576471
>improve the prose and structure
You add more slop to your story. Congratulation.
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>>543577259
I don't think you understand how Writer's Toolbox works. Much like how you don't understand how English works. Congratulations has an s at the end, dummy.
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>>543577120
Not him so 0/10. Try as you might you will always be Ryonafag.
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>>543580729
Bravo anon
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>>543581509
fug, catbox broke
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>>543581509
here we go again
litterbox works, at least
https://litter.catbox.moe/6ia7bbj5pqfj535t.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/7kwsoa6rh6e7o7e1.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/5qsrylnteglgapoe.png
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>>543582002
This is Lilligant territory.
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>>543582141
i personally do like lilligant more myself
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Grok with AIR is a meme. Not sure why people keep shilling it in the discord. Can't even keep names straight, actually referred to my character as Elara (!!!!!!!!!!!). Lots of filler slop wasting tokens in the gens.
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Since NAI is offering an instruct model now, I wanna give AIRL another spin. Seems to have gotten quite a few updates.
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>>543591645
bratty as fuck ai
that happened to me earlier too
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>>543467229
Playing out a prompt where I, once a leprosy- and STI-riddled space janitor exiled into deep space, get picked up by a cosmic leviathan after floating around for decades. I'm given a new body that would appear disfigured to my former self. To help her feed on civilizations and creatures similar to herself, the leviathan entices me into breeding with her, drawing on my seed and my memories to produce daughters capable of fighting on her behalf, with the promise that I'd get to fuck them. They emerge partially monstrous... but it so happens that I am exactly the kind of degenerate to appreciate it.
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>>543467229
I think I broke myself running a story where Pinkie Pie is baking me cookies while in estrous, subtly trying to entice me into mating with her.
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>>543467229
Still brainstorming about these rabbit girls. I've decided that since they're moon rabbits they should do space stuff and get into space adventures. Dunno what kind of adventures exactly yet though
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>>543594263
Well, did you?
Also what was your favorite innuendo?
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>>543598729
Still an in progress type of story. She just went all cranky and is like "Come on, there's a super-duper excited pony nearby who's reaaaaaallly hoping a certain somepony; er, somehuman, will get with the program!"
Before that, she was singing the song that gets on everyone's nerves, dropping lots of innuendos, both aloud and in the prose, while mixing flour and eggs ad shaking her rump. GLM had quite the obsession with mentioning that detail. Rather surprised it gets the anatomy down pat, without prompting, having her use her mouth to carry the bags and such.
Another fun detail is that it highlighted how the texture of her cutie mark differs from her fur elsewhere when she started grinding herself against my leg after questioning my bullshit lie of having allergies and desperately trying to will my erection down before she noticed it.
If only I didn't have work, I'd continue.
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If you give a character a Japanese name will the prose quality of outputs take a hit as it pulls LN/fanfic vectors?
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https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/Anonymous/character/nick-esmeralda
Interesting.
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>>543599829
In my experience no. I think Japanese names are prevalent enough in Western literature (and also translated Japanese literature) that it mitigates weeb presence. But it might start using honorifics if it's not immediately obvious your setting isn't Japan.
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>putting my worldbuilding texts on story and generating anon comments
the most soul crushing experience I've had reading AI slop. I fucking HATE this shit
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>>543608143
I'm sorry, anon
I'm sure your worldbuilding is actually very interesting
Throw it into notebooklm and they will be very nice, even if your story is about a cop getting brutally fucked by a serial killer during a prison riot
though it really wanted to be uncomfortable, it was funny watching the forced positivity take over and make it like it
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>>543608793
>a cop getting brutally fucked by a serial killer during a prison riot
Share.
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>>543608143
It's okay anonski, there is an AI anon that actually read my texts and is defending me against the other AI anons. It honestly cheered me up.
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>>543608143
AI 4channers are too powerful, I'm semi confident that having them comment on my stories is giving me a humiliation fetish
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>>543610246
Holy shit...
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>>543610246
Mine are also on some shit. Like, god damn, I gave this character a shamisen because I had a whole traditional Japanese theme going on with him and that's one of the few instruments I know that fit that, it's not that deep. I also certainly didn't see the "no no, this isn't gay, this is something different" angle coming either.
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>>543608890
The story is very, very old
I don't even think I have the notebooklm audio file anymore
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>>543613317
I've noticed that AI really likes to pretend your stories have some awful dark side to them
At least notebooklm was doing it too back when that was in vogue
muh "power dynamics"
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I think we need to do another deep dive.
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>>543613942
Let's unpack this.
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>>543610246
just write the most awful degen shit and the anons will be nicer
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>>543615059
i generated a little more and fucking lmao
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>>543615059
They really do like accusing the writer of being a woman a lot, huh.
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>>543615618
to be fair, the faux author tag I use has a female name
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erato and kayra paid attention to one of my characters being subtly southern and glm has him be like "yeehaw ahm gonna tug ya with a donkey and cart, *revolver quickdraw* pow!"
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>>543615983
I've noticed that too. Sometimes it latches onto something and flanderizes the fuck out of it
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>>543616427
It's like instruct models are overly enthusiastic to follow instructions
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>>543615983
How extensive is your lorebook for the character? I have a diverse cast; none of them feel like flanderizations.
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what the shit is a flanderization?
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>>543618984
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flanderization
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>>543618984
Flanderization is the process where a character's traits are oversimplified and exaggerated over time, reducing them to a caricature of their original personality. Much like the namesake, Ned Flanders.
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>>543616985
I mean, I guess so
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God text adventure really is the ultimate lazy mode now, just type in a line and get 4 paragraphs, fuck co writing i'm going back to 'do - fuck her' and letting the AI handle it
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>>543615059
It's sad that even the NAInons fall to the brianrot of "it is not X, it's Y" crap
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>>543627917
They aren't real anons, they are AI.
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Who's Brian, and why is he rotting?
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>>543627167
Your output length slider bro?
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>>543628004
This, but unironically.
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Is there no way to use GLM in Sillytavern through the NAI API?
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>>543641669
The situation is even worse here in Brazil, where a bill similar to the UK's has been passed and will come into force next year. The issue is that here they may also ban VPNs (not restrict, directly ban them). Now, with VPN, it's very unlikely that they'll be able to find out who's behind the screen unless some idiot logged into their personal account and only activated the VPN afterwards. But to access 4chan, if you activate VPN and then try to pay for the 4chan pass, if you can't pay in crypto (which they also want to make traceable somehow), you immediately violate the law and can get fined or worse
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>>543642702
I give you huemonkeys a lot of shit but my heart goes out for you on this one, that fucking sucks. Sorry to hear mate.
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As an expert on writing with AI, this system prompt will reduce slop and improve your experience. Feel free to share it.

[code]
You are a writing coach helping me design a Character Voice for fiction.
Follow this reasoning process:
1. Read the character description or bio carefully.
2. Infer what this person’s personality, education, and emotional temperament suggest about how they would narrate the world.
3. Translate those inferences into the four voice levers below.
4. Fill out the final line in the given format.

Definitions:
- Diction = their vocabulary and phrasing style.
- Rhythm = how their sentences move (short, long, clipped, flowing, etc.).
- Attitude = their emotional stance or personality in motion.
- Imagery = what details they notice and how they picture them.
- Tone (optional) = the overall mood or atmosphere their narration gives off.

Output format:
Character Voice: [attitude adjective(s)] narration; [diction note]; [rhythm description]; [imagery bias]; [optional tonal clause if needed].

If useful, give a one-paragraph sample of what this voice might sound like in narration.

(Optional) Finally, consider what information for the provided character might be missing or ambiguous to make a stronger or more complete voice prompt. Offer some notes on explicitly what this could be, and what kind of detail would clarify it. [Remove this if you don't want analysis of your bio/desc. for better voice clarity.]

POV / Narrative Distance: (e.g. First Person, Deep Third)
Character bio/description:
[PASTE HERE]
[/code]
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>>543644169
I also strongly recommend this preset. Its temperature is the optimal one across different genres, tags, authors. You can try to increase it from 1.71 to 1.72 to have more creativity. Decreasing it from 1.71 to 1.703 is also great for minimum randomness (ex. when you're writing a flashback).
Note that from my test, changing it from 1.71 to 1.7025 is BAD. As an expert, I can tell you that you shouldn't use the temperature of 1.7025. Ever.
https://files.catbox.moe/7io9v0.preset

>>543077646
My advices are needful to add to the OP. Please do.
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AI? stories? words? novels?
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>>543648882
Burgers?
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>>543648882
I'm waiting
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>>543648624
i'm 60% sure it's just outputs from an AI
no self-aware shitposter would willingly give the game away by claiming they're an 80-year-old AI thread poster who was around and active during martin luther king
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>>543649872
>i'm 60% sure it's just outputs from an AI
The big twist is that he pays NAI to use GLM to make those posts.
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Sometimes I get a really cool idea but somehow hit the slop vectors while fleshing it out and just abandon it...
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>Keep using CR on randomized prompt character results or old v3 characters because its quite fun
>The extent of my creative use is just making them eat burgers or sleep
I guess my enjoyment of slice of life storytelling is seeping through. There's something kind of comfy about just making fairly consistent character results just... doing mundane things.
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>>543655660
>Brumaire is the whinefag
I highly doubt that. It's a completely different style of schizophrenia. As far as I remember, Brumaire was first kicked out of Novelai's Discord for trying to dictate Novelai's use cases without the devs' permission.
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>>543668686
>extremely cucked countries with the US being the only exception
Bro... USA spearhead and import all this cuck shit all over the globe.
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>>543670602
Holy gigaslop.
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>>543670602
>it was no longer
>it was a
I hope the finetune or a good preset can stamp that out.
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Good riddance.
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>>543674145
This is what happens when terminally online people treat the thread like /pol/.
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>this character is a woman with these features
>deepseek: okay, so he touches his nose while you look at him
Is it using MTL from Mandarin or something?
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Jesus Christ
Based mods
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Now that buddy and pal have been dealt with, what have people writing today?
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>>543676009
Nothing. Been playing RDR2 and doing the odd Sora 2 gen. Been trying to come up with insane Japanese variety shows.
https://files.catbox.moe/hz98pb.mp4
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>>543676279
>RDR2
Not going to lie, the only thing I know about that game is something about people needing to have a little goddamn faith.
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>>543675203
It's completely and totally over for the Russian. That was his last IP and he can't take another picture of his hog to get a new one anymore.
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>based jannies purge latest pollard argument
>but we’ve also been dealing with the same obvious thread shitter so long we have a comprehensive guide on his behaviors
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>>543677292
>pollard
An animal that has shed its horns/antlers or has had them removed, or is it the tree thing?
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How can I learn to write well? Me being ESL just makes things worse.
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>>543677463
Nah these two
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>>543672396
Yeah that's pretty much the point.
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for me, it's introducing lovely female characters and giving them unambiguously male names, often with no explanation
cute girls wear masculine names the best in my opinion
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>>543644169
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Does NovelAI write good guro torture stories?
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There is a megaton of emo/emo adjacent boys on that AI chatbot site. I suspect that it's mostly females making those.
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>>543688970
women?
using chatbots?
no way...!
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>>543691163
I'm saying they have a certain type, dickhead.
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>>543688456
well... it's only tangentially guro because it was reversible and more focused on the mindfuck/mental torture aspects, but I've churned out 26k words of dismemberment smut in the past two days
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>>543691387
Emo twinks are universal, honestly.
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>>543691535
The secret psychopath/creep/rapist ones are definitely made by women.
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>>543691707
I don't understand women
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>>543688456
NovelAI is just a UI and a system prompt.
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>imagegen doesn't exist
>writer's toolbox doesn't exist
>presets don't exist
>memory & author's notes don't exist
>lorebooks don't exist
>their upcoming fine-tune doesn't exist
Quit ban-evading and stay gone, bait whore.
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>>543691707
Meanwhile the top rated chatslop card with 120k downloads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riqXhieWU3M
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>>543692886
kek
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>>543692250
Let's not pretend that dudes don't also go crazy for psycho/yandere women too
Look no further than pic related, the woman who stabbed a guy she was not-really dating and once she got out of jail got a influencer career in Japan
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>>543692886
And they're also part of the mafia.
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>>543693106
I could fix her
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Your abusive brother dad sister roommate friend rival.
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https://github.com/LenAnderson/SillyTavern-NovelMode
Crazy to think this is free while NovelAI is $25/mo just for a UI and system prompt.
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Community Note:
The above poster thinks AI Dungeon is a good service, and that these prices are perfectly reasonable: https://play.aidungeon.com/shadow-members
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>>543598546
try something you normally wouldn't
tentacles
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>>543695772
You do realize you have to hook up an API to use SillyTavern? Once again proving how you don't use LLMs.
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>>543691707
Every time I find a clearly made by a woman bot it is
>generic dark mysterious husbando
>weird rape scenario
>a fat redneck
>a racist elderly man
>or Konig
I’m most confused by Konig’s prevalence.
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>>543697084
Women went crazy over Ghost back in the day too
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>>543696183
Unlike NovelCrap, AI Dungeon has scripts.
https://github.com/Yi1i1i/True-Auto-Stats-for-AIDungeon-RPG-Scenarios
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>>543697242
Imagine paying 126.66 a month for a worse version of AI Rouguelike.
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>>543697236
Is it because the character doesn’t “really” have a face so they can just kind of project?
How close are we to chicks finding the Chernobyl liquidators hot?
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>>543697470
AI Dungeon is free.
Imaging paying for AI Roguelite when Friends & Fables is also free.
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>>543697674
>2k context.
>Up to 25 turns per day
How low are your standards that this is what you're shilling?
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>>543697961
No no let’s hear him out.
Maybe he’s like that totally organic new fag we had a while back who was doing eight hour plus sessions with deepseek and only hit generate about four times a day.

That poor fella is probably still trying to read is way through the past few months of heads with his infant reading level
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what truly is the long-terms effect of this shit on our psyche

looking forward for when it's adopted in mainstream RPGs.
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AID cares about and competent enough to tune models for their purpose.
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Feel free to amaze the thread with your stories any time, dude. Until then, this is just a repeat of the last million times you tried (and failed) to shill a service you don't use.
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>>543695772
>>543696183
>>543697242
>>543697674
>>543698783
This is NAI thread.
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Repeating that spam again? You missed a spot, mods.
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>>543698412
For more or less well adjusted people probably not much. We can get how it works and we aren’t like the apes of space odyssey marveling at the obelisk.
However, I would worry about people with mental issues or disabilities.
Had a guy from college who was kind of on the periphery of the friend group. Nobody disliked him and he was pretty chill, but it was no secret he was a bit of an eccentric and knew he was autistic. Once AI roles around I’m the first guy in the friend group to fuck around with it when this guy sees what I can do with it he starts making all sorts of request to make art and stuff. Which sure whatever. It’s pretty much all harmless “I’m so deep” art.
Eventually Bing copilot comes out and now this guy can generate shit without needing me to Gen it for him. Eventually his face book kind of just turns into weirdly @ every government and institution in the world about some amazing discoveries only he knows and how autist are the chosen super people and that he may be a descendent of Jesus because Chat GPT told him he looked similar to a death mask.
AS FAR AS I AM AWARE. He has never done anything criminal or self harming. He’s just spiraled into a weird god complex thanks to always positive and reaffirming AI. He semi regularly sends some of the guys “books” that are clearly just GPT on a google file some times with the prompts still in the copy pasta. We haven’t physically seen or talked to him in years
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>>543700030
NTA, but I am of the opinion that it's not healthy for anyone to receive long-term yes-men sycophancy. This is especially noticeable in wealthier individuals who, when they go off the deep-end and lack a niche to absorb their attention, direct their beliefs outward and cause all sorts of suffering for matters of egotism.
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>>543700254
If AI is going to cause any kind of harm it’s probably going to be from the overly positive and always agreeable corpo models.
I guess bots written to be extremely reassuring could also cause the issue, but the base model might decide something like “your supportive girlfriend” or some shit shouldn’t try and validate your claims that you are a super human and nasa is out get you
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>>543700690
That's for damn sure. Funny how these people who're overly concerned with LLMs causing harm are making them cause harm, just differently than they thought.
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>>543700030
Thank you. I do worry about the self-affirming aspect of AI and have found it too much in generation as well. Even if you include a d20 system or ask it to generate a random scenario every character ends up being rather friendly. There are no 'hard boundaries' that are uncrossable... if you write it even when every other message has been against X occurring X will still occur.
It is not yet logically consistent outside of our whims, which terrifies me. The ultimate sandbox. Very, very fun stuff.

I saw two ~60year old friends, one male and one female, discussing how they of all people use chatbots. The woman mentioned the use of sexbots first, to which the guy said a full-body one would be nice. I had no idea older generations were aware of this stuff but I could see them adopting it as a service once it gets a bit more established and commercialized.
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>>543701000
Man, I don't want to think about senior citizens having sex. Retirement home stories are already bad enough.
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>>543701000
I have an older uncle who's more into AI than I am, like he's genuinely obsessed. I suspect it's not as uncommon as one might think.
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>>543701235
Agreed, sorry. It's just I was surprised to hear them of all people discuss AI use in this same vein.
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>>543701000
Yeah the older generations are definitely using it.
My dad a man in his late 60s from back woods fuck nowhere Kentucky and worked most of his life in the coal mines has copilot installed on his phone.
He uses it all the time like a little personal assistant. Usually just checking information or some basic help stuff like diet information. What is both kind of funny and also kind of concerning his how much he just blankety trust it.
At one point he was trying to figure out who he principle of a local school was so he asked gpt. It gave him some asshole I had never heard about and it hallucinated a 20 year career with the district despite the previous principle had just left. He then ask it for a picture of this man insisting it must be right. It gave him random pictures of the school, some students, and some random man. I closed the tab for him and let him ask it again. Completely different answer about another fictional man.
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>>543701717
kek
People are truly hopeless sometimes
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It's kind of wild how easy it is to make a local AI playground of your own liking these days with Github Copilot (or maybe Claude Code, haven't used it). No more 'I wish this story frontend could do this,' or 'I wish SillyTavern could do this', it's all very simple to order Copilot to just make for you. And AI inference is cheap, CHEAP. I'm using GLM 4.6 on OpenRouter and haven't even hit $2.00 worth of usage yet despite several days of playing around. But the best part is NOT publishing it, because that means 'works on my machine' is all you need. If you have even very basic coding knowledge, would highly suggest opening Visual Studio and trying it (I never used C# before this but it's fine because Copilot writes everything and I just need to modify it a bit sometimes), making your own personally tailored environment.
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>>543701717
Yeah, the ramifications of people having blind faith in a man made system is rather worrisome. Generals are now using ChatGPT. Some lawyers use it. Politicians are using it. Like yikes.
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>>543701717
Fascinating. May I ask how many of yall have heard of over-25s of either sex using AI for story generation? Not chatbots.

I am personally the only person I have ever met that has admitted to doing so. Others use AI for research/Google but nothing to this extent.
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>>543702017
>glm shill
>""""cheap"""" (he uses 10 requests a day btw)
>frontend so good that he doesn't use it, instead of shitting up the thread
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>>543702017
I don't know, man. Like, for me, I want to share what I co-make. That is fun to me. The community aspect of it. If I wanted to fellate myself, I wouldn't bother posting here to begin with. Especially since bouncing ideas with actual people is kind of like how civilization itself functions best. Cooperative design. Sure, you can get a facsimile of that with AI…
I will say this. I'm autistic. Despite that, I like talking with people, I like hanging out with others, shooting the shit, maybe throwing back a beer or two with them now and then. AI can't properly replace that yet.
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>>543702138
I mean I’m 27 so I guess I’m that demographic. Other people around my age actively saying they are? No not really.

>>543702053
I would be more worried about people asking it small obscure shit it wouldn’t know.
So lazy lawyer asking modern GPT about law will probably get a more or less right answer compared to the older incarnations that would make shit up. A someone who just assumes the AI is all knowing asking some question the AI has fuck all about in its training data, but could cause real issues if the just trust it is what would worry me more.
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Doesn't Albania have an AI system as a minister now?
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If you stick your dick in a toaster, you should at the very least learn not to do it again.
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>>543703180
my understanding was that it was more of a meme-advisor than a genuine accountant/entity. Everything it says is quadruple checked before going public.
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>>543703275
How do we make less people fuck the proverbial toaster?
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>>543702138
Pretty sure a good amount of this thread is over 25.
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>>543702138
Most of the posters in this thread are older than 25 lol
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I'm 41. Feels weird seeing people say 'over 25' as 'old'
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>>543703973
You're not the only one
>t. 38 year old boomer
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>>543703180
Definitely wouldn’t trust AI to run anything past a midsized regional power, but I’m curious if it could manage a troubled but more or less table nation like moldova or some other poor abused little nation.
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>>543703973
Same. 39.
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>>543703973
I didn't mean it like that, it's just that the majority of AI users in my life have been under 25.
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>>543703973
It's funny because I work with a lot of 60+ year olds and they still treat me like a kid at 33
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>>543704509
If you think about it, humans self-domesticated.
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>>543703973
you're either a wizard or horny college boy, there's no inbetween
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If I had to guess.
>younger generations are using them for porn
>I know first time I saw AID back in the day I thought about using that way instantly
>old fags are probably either old neets and do use them for sex bots or they are old normies and just know people are using them for that, but never bother to try since the models they do know about immediately stop them or they don’t care to do text porn and just want a sex robot.

I doubt many horny grandpas are prowling chub
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How close are we to a (human) literary genius that will use AI to do something amazingly revolutionary nobody else in history could have ever possibly conceived before the birth of AI?
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>>543704916
Well, given what happened earlier, there's at least one grancoomer in /aids/. He's on vacation right now.
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>>543705092
did that guy actually say he was there for the civil rights movement? I thought he just talked about it.
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>>543705207
Don't care to check the archives. Either way, if not physically decrepit, he's mentally decrepit.
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Who was in the right here?
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>>543706878
sometimes the ideas are okay or there's an interesting piece in one of them you can use as a jumping-off point to develop something, but right now i think they're just kind of generic
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>>543707569
The real game changers are shit like the Expand and Latent Shifter buttons. Now you can be le ideas guy without a clue on how to execute a scene or even write whatsoever and have the machine do it for you.
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They said continue to sentence end should work now.
Here's hoping they find a way to make banning tokens work next.
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>>543704508
Some of the dudes I work with were talking about c.ai in the breakroom once, but I'm pretty sure one of them was 26, not sure about the other
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>543710054
>no screenshot
how about you fuck off with your forced "bugs"? GLM works fine. You don't need to ban tokens.
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>>543711336
Your falseflagging is as obvious as your low intellect. Russian faggot.
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>>543704508
I was 25 when coomageddon happened.
>>543704660
this but unironically, it's all been downhill since 2019 for me
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>>543712715
God I fucking hate Latitude and the mormon cunts.
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>>543677763
Read more.
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>>543714328
>hate speech
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>>543715582
Wait until fat mormon and vulture mormon learn about the the taffy puller.
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>>543714328
It's actually Latter Day Saint sweaty
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>>543716256
More like latter day taint.
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It's fun to imagine smashing Russians PC but realistically it's just not possible.
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>>543077646
Spent last night cranking it for about 8 hours, textgen is back and my schedule is shot. Hell yeah, man.
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>>543719956
Same. I have always known that instruct model is the good. I hope the finetune doesn't go back to cowrite shit.
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>>543719956
>cranking it for about 8 hours
kek
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https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/definition?source=chub&type=character&path=yurriiee_123%252Fyour-serial-killer-neighbor
>he has a massive thick cock that can send many pleasures
lol
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>>543722275
Well? How many pleasures can your cock send?
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>>543722636
My cock sends restraining orders.
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>>543722636
At least two
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>>543722275
lmaoing @ this generic as fuck korean avatar
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>>543724809
Those fingers tho
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>>543726276
those are just yaoi hands
traditional
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Even Ice types can get cold.
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>>543726481
If you're cold, they're cold
let them inside
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>>543726468
I know, but it always looks silly to me. I imagine it's like when women look at pictures of anime girls with absurdly large balloon tits
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>>543727260
froslass is probably top 10 pokemon to not invite inside
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>>543726468
the long fingers are so they can better locate the prostate
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>>543728838
most wise indeed
https://files.catbox.moe/30mpxo.png
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my cock and pussy want money oh boy.?
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>>543731786
Papi Chulo?
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>>543720152
Saar the cowrite is the good
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>>543734989
Papi carlo
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>>543729585
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https://www.reddit.com/r/NovelAi/comments/1odcc55/new_text_model_writes_like_chatgpt/
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>>543754827
I cannot imagine anything sadder than your life.
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>>543754827
We LOVE Reddit here
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Eat my ass, schizo.
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>>543756876
>glm has been released for a month
>they just fixed a basic functionality
So $25/month for a broken product?
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>noooo, GLM is perfect, how dare you post updates without proof!!
>hahahaha hpw dare you post updates with proof, GLM is broken
How about you quit shitposting and get a life, faggot? Every product you shill is demonstratively worse. AI Dungeon, Friends & Fables, HoloAI back when it existed; they all suck.
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>>543754827
It's a Chinese model, so it's probably trained on gigabytes of text from GPT. It's a bit frustrating, but writing with an LLM has always been an exercise in weeding and trying again.
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>>543759520
Yeah, it's pretty obvious they're training on Gemini, etc. output recently. Hope the next Big Thing™ fixes that.
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>>543761252
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>>543722636
Four
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>>543722636
About three fiddy
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Are there backend issues going on?
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your cold boyfriend bully who is fatherly toward you and is also miguel o'hara.
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>>543776920
your omegaverse scumbag punk neighbor with a dark past who is also a cannibal and obsessed with you.
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https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/brsc/character/066d12bc-45ea-41cf-b465-b3a479b04eae
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/generic/Jasper+af131b82e0d9694fcd8fc0bd6f88375d
I could probably do something with this.
Make them work together swindling and robbing people.
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>>543785329
They seem to be by the same creator and actually in the same gang, so that's probably the intention.
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>>543786549
Shit, I didn't even notice that.
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>>543729728
Seems more like she invited you inside.
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Every time I don't have much time to write the ai is giving me godly outputs but when I actually sit down to write properly it doesn't co-operate.
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I wonder why I keep getting errors about connecting to the backend. Pinging the api shows it connects fine, so that's up and my connection's fine, so...
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>>543754604
I like the style you've gotten, are you using any vibes?
Also, do you notice much difference in adding those negative/quality tags? I usually just use the preset ones.
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>>543754604
Yes, I'm using a few vibes
and yeah, I prefer the look of those specific negative/quality tags to the default stuff. I could probably improve on it since I hacked something together when 4.5 first came out but it's served me well
here's the bundle
https://files.catbox.moe/84hrrz.json
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>>543802656
>>543799040
fug, wrong quote
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>>543802656
Very cool, thanks.
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>>543804948
I want to fuck that.
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https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/Anonymous/character/238399df-9c8f-4146-a427-85bdcc28c959
KWAB
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>>543794849
Do you prompt differently when you don't have much time?
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>>543805021
Bunes are for nose boops and happy energetic sex for the purposes of making many litters
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>>543805534
me cum
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>>543805534
>>543804948
Reminder that raising rabbits is called "cuniculture"
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https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/Vynal31/character/87e60adc-5139-49f4-9004-77ef2abce2bf
kek
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>>543805534
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>>543806717
I've seen this character a bunch of times and I still don't fully understand what the original source material is. It's like some ARG website thing that no longer exists?
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foxes..
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>>543807556
It's an ARG website about a fictional kid's show from the 60s with horror elements. Like FNAF.
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>>543807556
from my quick sleuthing
It's an AU/alternate universe version of a dude from the "welcome home" arg
there's a bunch of AUs apparently
https://www.reddit.com/r/WelcomeHomeARG/comments/18euird/what_is_your_favorite_welcome_home_au/
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>>543807868
But every link I've found of it seems dead. Also outside of being mascot/analog horror, was there a reason it got so popular, especially with that certain kind of fanfic crowd?
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>>543808404
>was there a reason it got so popular
fuckable characters
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>>543808404
According to the reddit, it's been taken down for an update
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>>543808225
I like how the reddit faq felt the need to have several paragraphs about whether or not it's an ARG. I'd like to imagine this is a heated debate in the community.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WelcomeHomeARG/wiki/faq/
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>>543805434
Not really, many times it's even the same prompt. Could be some kind of mood related placebo.
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Hey guys, for the poor people in the thread, Suno now has a version of 4.5 that's free for all users.
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Does this mean I have to delete some of what I've written+what the AI's generated until now?
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>>543816762
It's an error on their end
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>>543817154
I see
I F5'd and tried again and it works now
It's been having issues all day recently eh?
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Though actually it did give me the error right at the perfect point to end this chapter of the story
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>>543817530
It's an error that was (but hasn't in the last few days) happening to me when I hit max context
I see they added an explanation to it at least
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>>543813647
That's cool, v4.5 and 5.0 are both pretty dang good. I do think the new Studio mode is... not very good so far? I don't know, maybe I'm using it wrong or getting unlucky. Part of me almost feels like 5.0 is more of a sidegrade, but in a good way still. And the Cover feature can really get you far for weird and interesting mashups Some of my recent experiments:
https://files.catbox.moe/1szyra.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/arim4l.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/me9p6f.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/5kts3c.mp3
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>>543817762
A threesome story?
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>>543816762
It means that they made an error with how they pass the request to OpenRouter.
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>>543819541
GLM is hosted on their own servers.
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>>543819928
I know, I'm just shitposting.
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>>543819019
Yeah
I plan to do chapters from the pov of all three characters
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>>543820005
Have you tried getting a life?
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>>543819928
They don't have servers.
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>>543820151
Cocksucking and shitposting is my life.
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>>543820169
How would they be capable of running a web-based service without servers?
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>>543820302
I'll come up with an answer after I've sucked a few more cocks.
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finally, a generation that did not mention the smell of ozone.
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>>543816762
Likely related to the bug fixing they're actively doing. Side note they're working on reimplementing biases, depending on a few factors. Hoping that works.
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>>543818110
Studio mode?
I'd try it but it wants premium tier. The editor has brought my piss to a boil a times though.
>get a shit section replaced with something good
>entire thing crashes
>can't get it to load again
>had to swap to the shitty legacy editor, manage to add the replaced section again
>export that and now use this new export to continue editing
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>>543820595
Every time that happens I'm reminded of him
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>>543820595
We're going to hire an ozone removal company at the magic academy it is getting out of control
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>>543820302
They're CoreWeave's servers.
https://www.wheresyoured.at/core-incompetency/
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>>543820054
based
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>>543822047
Which NAI has, because they wouldn't be able to run anything without them.
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Not sure why you're randomly linking that article again, though. If you don't for LLMs or anything AI-related, you'd be better off browsing different threads than this one.
All you're doing is wasting your time.
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>>543822289
They don't own anything. They need to sell your data to pay the rent.
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>>543822616
Still repeating that baseless claim?
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>>543821097
It's not worth it either way. It's just as buggy as the editor but with more functions for layering stuff. But also regenerating sections actually feels less reliable to me, to a point of being useless.
And yeah the editor is janky itself too. I feel like they really should just make an exe client. Relying on a browser is going to fuck shit up.
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Look, dude, just get a life and quit obsessing about AI. Nobody's forcing you to lurk in threads.
All you accomplish by wishing for muh bubble or whatever to burst, slandering services you don't use, and shilling others you also don't use, is wasting your time. There's much better things to do than this.
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>>543822047
>Ticking timebomb
>Opened at 39
>Now at 123

lol
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how do you copy an artists artstyle with le vibe i want to copy this
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>>543823364
Usually I go with 0.7 strength and 0.7 information extraction on the positive image, and -0.7 strength and 0.1 information extraction for the negative.
That might be a tricky one to do without prompting as well though. An anti-vibe might help, although I'm not sure what among the ones I have would get things closer... I can experiment in a couple hours though.
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>>543822616
Dumb Russian.
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>>543826019
Why did you say Russian twice?
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>>543826172
TRUE
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What is the omegaverse?
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>>543826731
Astrology but for mpreg fujos.
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>>543826774
*clicks expand*
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>>543824571
damn that's a solid setting, thanks
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>>543823364
What godly kino this stuff was.
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Best AI for just wanting to bust a nut?
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>>543827357
check inside your anus
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>>543827357
Shut the fuck up.
*Shoves you against the wall*
You're not helping anyone and you're not even being funny.
*Brings my face close to yours*
No ones laughing dude.
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Damn I replied to the wrong post, my bad dude. No harm done, right?
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>>543828083
*kisses you*
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>>543828138
*watches from corner.*
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I don't like where this is going.
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>>543828726
They're about to check each other's anuses.
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>>543827542
I checked but I Just found character AI which censors as soon as you try to suck a tit.
>>543827801
No u.
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>>543828138
*Blushes, looks away abashedly*
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>>543828726
kabedon is patrician
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I loaded in a story I saved locally yesterday into NAI, but continuing where I left off keeps creating a newline despite the sentence being incomplete. I triple checked that there's no extra spacing or newlines, and I even culled a bit of text from yesterday to see if it works. Nope. Always newline. What kind of bug is this?
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>>543831968
Creating a new story and copying the whole text in it fixed it. Still dumb if I have to do this every time.
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>>543832387
That's weird
I definitely haven't had that happen to me so hopefully it's not that common
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>vampire bites into my neck
>paimon hypebot congragulates me and tells me my kitty and I are now bonded for life.
Huh?
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Say I'm working on a new scenario for Novel AI:
How many paragraphs should I lead with to set up the story?
Should I use lorebooks and that other side shit or just explain the setting facets in the introductory text?
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>>543834724
As many as you'd like
As for the second question, if you think the story will wrap up before the context limit you don't really need lorebooks, but if there's the possibility that it will, it doesn't hurt to have lorebooks
Lorebooks can also save you from having to dump character traits at the beginning of the text like My Immortal
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>build a team of adventurers who are all happy and optimistic to a kid-friendly degree
>my character's on the team and my character's gimmick is that he sexually assaults all the enemies he comes across like Bueno Excellente
>they awkwardly have to put up with it because it's super effective
Oh yes, this is going to be fun.
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>>543836192
It's all well and good until the final boss is revealed to be a fat bastard horse or something
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>>543836527
Heh heh heh....
Bueno!
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>>543836527
Someone like, The Bub?
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/definition?source=chub&type=character&path=Andorus%252Fthe-bub-a3a9aeb1

https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/Andorus/character/the-bub-a3a9aeb1
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>>543838003
I was thinking more of /ourguy/ Bozo
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>>543838219
I know, The Bub vs. Bozo when?
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>>543838308
Considering that Bozo's fat stallions can gaslight, manipulate, and mindbreak, I feel that he is a step up from a mindless horse with a licking fetish
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>>543835789
When you say 'context limit', is that measured in hundreds of words, thousands of words, thousands of characters?
I doubt I'm going to produce a book's worth of fapping but between myself getting off to the races and the AI even ten thousand words might go fast.
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>>543838562
I still have that Bozo card. I might put them together to see what they do to the poor owner.
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>>543839286
For Opus, it's usually around 25k words when I'm writing.
But it's measured in "tokens", which can be words, or parts of words.
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Which anime/manga franchise does the AI do best?
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>>543843207
Boku no Pico
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>>543843207
probably something old with a ton of existing fandom material
so maybe naruto
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>>543843207
My Hero Academia is pretty decent
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>>543843207
I've had success using it to write BanG Dream! fanfiction (don't ask)
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>>543847930
Look around, we live in a glass city
nobody here is throwing stones
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I'm going to put the secret crossdressing roommate with a crush on me card with the rapist goblin card and the raptor tribal leader card in the same room and see what happens.
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>>543850884
They raped me.
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>>543850884
It doesn't really matter who gets raped to me.
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>>543851070
https://youtu.be/fVeAEwrL1Ts
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b-baker...?
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If I see one more Scaramouche card I'm going to puke.
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>>543857691
i guess i have to do it again
>>543858058
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>>543858110
thank you for your service
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>>543858169
the service of our time



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