Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #8750 - Marine has Hydrokinesis Edition==NEWS==>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Accolades Trailerhttps://youtu.be/C6BSu_x0gcE>Sonic Rumble arrives this Novemberhttps://x.com/Sonic_Rumble/status/1978491359452364988>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary - 22 October 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 19 November 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 17 DecemberSonic the Hedgehog #84 - 14 January 2026Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 28 January 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - Never==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>/sthg/ OP template:https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://grabber.zone>SAGEhttp://sagexpo.org/>SHChttp://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ OCs:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixels:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>543399209
Patty the foxLook it up
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>>543440532She does not
imagine Surge starving for Sonic's cum
has anyone listened to Koji Yousa's sexy audio dramas
Knuckles is literally the Kiba of Sonic now, he's a yapper who pretends he's on Sonic's level.
>>543440532Finally a good OP
Who's the Majin Buu of this series?
>>543440769wrong, she's starving for MY cumhttps://files.catbox.moe/4pi9un.png
>>543441004Made for rape correction
what's the overlap between people attracted to blobians and people attracted to inklings
They really had her pull a water power out of her ass. Worst moment of RA
>>543440532She does
>>543440974Zom Zom.Big.Omega.
>>543440810Knucklesissies should keep their mouths shut until he beats a Perfect Chaos/Metal Overlord-tier opponent in base form.
>>543441102Imagine her making fun of you and calling you names, completely unaware that she's half your height and you could just pick her up and fold her over your dick
>>543441305"Zom Zom"? You mean Zomom?
>>543441325Not even Sonic and Shadow are doing that without going super, just say you’re biased
>>543441451Just like a living fleshlight. But green colored
>>543440974>>543441305Big
Not a Knucklesfag but he's the first cool rival friend
>>543441815>Knuckles gave us WadeAutomatically goated
>>543441550She can also charge your phone
>>543440789https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL89HDOBkqxrItyxj4EpXH-HauLgaI6sXFShadow the femboy
>>543441129Splatoon is the hip franchise Sonic wishes it could be
>>543441129Autism
>>543441516They both did it during the events of Generations, newfag.
So...does that mean Silver will beat Solaris in his base form?
Mimic
>L' Soon
you can TAAAKE anotherLIFE! LONG! TRYYYY!you can TAAAKE another, TRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I always forget that blobians are half my size
>>543442484But 10x as powerful. They can lift the average american with ease
>>543442673holy shit
>>543442484
>>543442124I guess Infinite can do that too, he beat Sonic
>>543442484I don't know how you could forget one of the most important things about them
Authentic
>>543442874
Sonic knows that Surge is vulnerablr
>>543442874I wouldn't put much stock into ST's power scaling. A character can just do, or not do, in service to whatever the story is.
Is it ok for something to be cute but NOT canon...?
>>543443442):<
The government feared Gerald and his ability to produce blobians
>>543443442Post it.
Which way autist man?
>>543443267Lmao I hate you niggas
>>543443530
>>543443581I guess Metal, since he can use heroes or even CD as a stepping stone. That's basically what Shadows year did.
you think Zeena is more an anal or vaginal gal? Her doing Oral stuff goes without saying considering her Mario gal dsl's
What if Sonic had the Werehog's feral mannerisms and body language as part of his natural behavior?
>>543443530https://pomf2.lain.la/f/dnuop1l3.webm
>>543442484Imagine one being older than you but still 3 feet tall.
>>543444221Male Lanolin looks like an improvement.
>>543444174Anal for casual, vaginal for people she really likes
The sega system faggot is spamming again, how im supposed to talk about Sonic in the retro board?
Douge
>>543445202What does Sonic Team mean by this?
https://bsky.app/profile/captainjingo.bsky.social/post/3m2l3udpihs2z
It really feels like nothing I do online affects my race placement, no gadget, no vehicle, nothing helps. Items just fuck me up too much
>>543445734What's your rank?
>>543446861B, just got to B+ though
draw your own nicole
>>543445734Gadjets help, but theres a few tricks and also learning about the course. But I guess the thing that fucks the most on races are hacks. Theres a few people that use some very obvious hacks. Like one that make the racer jumps to either hit you or right in front of you.
>>543445491It's a mystery obv
>>543447021As long as you get 100 rings quick and play defensively, you should have an easier time in those ranks.
Rooj
>>543447745>dooj
WEEEWOO HOO
I don't know about you, but I think that guy likes Nicole.
GoodGREAT
AWESOME!OUTSTANDING!!!
I'M LEAVING.
>>543448634That IS Nicole! She's trying to push her human x ai propaganda again. Resist.
I love Shadria!
>>543449902How can I resist someone so sexy?!
>>543449938Hey Krack
>>543450131Hi
>>543449938banned from X dogfucker
>>543450156i like you
>>543450227nah she's too based for X
>>543440712She is that character from Sonic Union right?
>>543450317I just checked, she got banned again? lmao
>>543450293Thanks. But...why?
>>543450317Yeah, she’s too based for anyone. She should just live secluded with her Shitdow plushies all alone
>>543443581>Super Cool Awesome Evil Robot CloneOr>lesser version of princess peach
>>543450449yeah. that's sad.
>>543450457you remind me of my first crush, ashley from warioware
>>543450449>>543450628it's just a case of twitter mistakenly thinking she was a bot iirc
>>543449938Shadria is kino
>>543443581Which one of these is more appealing to 12-year-old boys?
>>543450457Cute Sonic pic
>>543450803Nah, twitter detected that she was astroturfing from multiple geo locations / ips and rightfully banned her ass.
They are adding Metallix in the movies?
>>543450745This meme is correct and wrong. Archie portrayed them as friends which is nice but realistically the Amy from the canon would seethe constantly at Sally. She still gets mad at Rouge for getting anywhere near Sonic even in IDW where her crush is completely downplayed.
>>543450745why didn't SatAM just use Ricky as a character instead of Sally? Ricky looks like an actual Sonic character, Sally looks like some lesbian's fursona
https://theretrohour.com/michael-jackson-just-said-okay-ill-do-it-all-segas-roger-hector-tells-the-inside-story-of-sonic-3/
https://x.com/sonicofficialjp/status/1980439711706673296?s=46
>>543451083Elise kissy kissy Sonic>But it was a desperate situationSally in those universes would be around Sonic as early as their childhood and dated multiple times. different universe with different circumstances I guess
buy an ad, jingo
>>543450793Huh. I've never played any of the Warioware games, so I only know of Ashley through Smash Brawl and 4 like a scrub. What's her personality like?I have trouble pinning my own personality down. >>543450804Shadria is the kinoest kino that ever kinoed. Kinocore, even.
Bunnie is PockyRotor is RockyAntoine is...
>>543448039KekNeeds to be canon
>>543451294We were this close to getting mittelfinger omega. but noooooooo it's the edgy but safe
>>543451309I mean sure but Amy has been statically irrational around other woman from 2003 to as late as 2023. If we're taking reasonability into account you would think that she would know by now that Rouge is not interested in Sonic at all.
>>543450935All pictures of Sonic are cute....Or most of them, anyway.
>>543451321 not everyone who posts art is the artist.
>>543451376Antoine isn't anyone because he came in after the second proptotype with all the characters based on animal friends.
>>543449938Sonic IP needs more women loosely based on Disney princessesI vote for a Snow White expy next
>>543451294>Battle of the Bara
>>543451507agreed
>>543451594Shut the fuck up
>>543451309You're not wrong about Elise but do you seriously think the Amy who was in the games throughout preboot Sally's run wouldn't have torn her hair out ovt over Sally
>>543451594>I vote for a Snow White expy nextWe already have Silver.
Ricky and Pocky transitions were flawless
>>543450912..................!?????
>>543451210picrel>>543451498>>543451757>Sonic and Sally have known each other since childhood (1993)>Dating and are open to each other>Everybody knows this>suddenly a random woman appears out of no where>"KEEP YOUR HANDS AWAY FROM MY SONIC B****">Sally: ".....what?">Sonic: "aaah Sal this is Amy, I saved her once from metal Sonic"
>>543451982It would be completely in character but it would definitely ruin Amy's already dwindling reputation in the 2000s. I think Archie actually made the correct move even if I am personally against the idea of Sonic having any girlfriend. I don't believe people are being honest when they claim 2000s Amy was a fun character.
>>543451594It's been way too long since I watched Snow White, but isn't this sort of kind of like Amy or Elise? Aside from the fact that Amy isn't very gentle.
Let me be very, very clear. The top one percent of Sonic posters,the creamfags, the Sparkys, the whole damn lot of them,have gotten away with ideological murder for far too long. They want you to believe their lies, their out-of-context lines from some theme song, their fanfiction-tier headcanons that Maekawa and his cronies at Sonic Team cooked up.The fact of the matter is, it is not a radical idea to say Amy is "Girl Sonic" and Tails is "Kid Sonic." It's the damn truth! And the refusal of these people to unite behind a consistent, *American* vision of these characters has turned Sonic Twitter into a failed state, worse than anything President Trump did to this country. It's a rigged system, folks, where the discourse-baiters get all the attention while the real fans who grew up with the REAL Sonic get screwed. Disgraceful
>>543451592First prototype
>>543449938Cute!
Tails is cute and I wanna hug him! ^-^
>>543440532
>>543452340same
>>543452168I think Shahra is the closest existing character to this.
What's Eggman saying?https://youtube.com/watch?v=xS6gltoX2Hk
>>543452168Sonic and the gang would be stand-in for the seven dwarfsGrumpy is Shadow or KnucklesSonic or Tails might be DocDopey is Charmy
>>543452115>I don't believe people are being honest when they claim 2000s Amy was a fun character.We have people claiming some of the worse games are good. fandom is going through a revisionism phase I guess
>>543452226This looks pretty uglyIt's weird that Tails isn't featured even though he is in the show's bible. Eh maybe they didn't have access to his design/concept art yetIt's weird how Tux and Chirps kept their original proportions
>>543440532Stay off drugs, kids
>>543452226Post the Robotnik oneI want to see western Eggman Nega
>>543452226western producers once unironically thought these were good designs. think about that for a moment
Sonic
Porker Lewis FUCKS
>>543440810Yea dialogue for Knuckles has been weird lately. It feels like since Generations or Lost World, alot of his lines are like "I could do better than Sonic!". But he isn't the team muscle anymore...Has Knuckles been powercrept?
Sonic the Hedgehog pants pulled down
>>543453058Knuckles.
Can we talk about the absolute fucking nerve of that hack Ian Flynn? Every time he has Sonic say "Let's do it to it," it's a spit in the face of anyone who actually grew up with the real deal from the 90s. You think that was just some random catchphrase, you fucking tourist? It was a pact. A goddamn rallying cry between Sonic and his crew, the Knothole Freedom Fighters. It often came with a special handshake, a symbol of their bond and their commitment to the cause against Robotnik's tyranny. It meant something. But does Flynn show that? Does he understand the context? Of course not. He just rips the line and pastes it in like some soulless ghoul, totally divorced from what made it cool. It's as insulting as watching some mainstream news segment on "vidya games" where they call Samus a man. It's a shallow, corporate nod that proves he doesn't actually give a shit about the source, he just wants to check a box for the "fans." It's this kind of hollow, substance-free garbage that let Trump gut everything good President Biden built. Flynn doesn't understand the rebellious American Sonic; he only understands the neutered, marketable mascot that Sonic Team wants you to buy.
>>543453143Tl;DR
Silver
Classic Eggman has black eyes
>>543452115>>543452518Ah yes, now she went from silly teasing girl in love to...girl.
>>543452226Imagine a world where Sonic has a mohawk and a bucktooth for the rest of the series.
>>543453143Sonic shouldn't be saying "Let's do it to it" at all, it is DiC-introduced garbage
I wonder if Mokuren was the sole inspiration for Maria, or if Maekawa took from other similar characters too. Alice from Alice in Wonderland comes to mind, but he didn't seem to like taking from Western media...
Shadow
Thank him for inspiring Metal Sonic.
>>543453276No one disagrees that she's boring now but it's a lie to claim people weren't begging her to get cut out of the games by 2006
>>543453143TDS. You lost
>>543453440>but he didn't seem to like taking from Western media...SA2 is basically a Michael Bay movie, what are you on about
>>543453143No but really, Ian's entire career is phoning it in.Now that he's going awol with the characters, people started to look at his writing with a critical lens for the first time since he wasn't just copy and pasting everything in. And his idea of interesting characters and original ideas are abysmal. He lacks the talent for writing.
>>543452710What, this one?
>>543453651No
Amy
>>543453651This actually looks kinda cool as a separate villain
>>543453276liking 2000s Amy is fair. but the capitalist for-profit company wont stand still when the majority were hating on their product.
>>543453483Yeah, and there's people that beg for New Coke to return.
>>543453604SA2 took from Japanese media like Cowboy Bebop and Please Save My Earth. Not Michael Bay movies.
>>543452710>>543453651Or this one?
>>543453831The one with the first prototype
>>543453604>SA2 is basically a Michael Bay movieI didn't see explosions around each corner with tons of GUN propaganda
>>543453883How many of these are there? And why didn't they just use the design from the game?
>>543453754>Majoritymost outspokencommon misconceptionThe majority wouldn't care either way and isn't autistically passionate for Amy's character when they play Sonic, they just see her as Sonic Minnie Mouse
>>543453763I liked new coke
>>543453871why's her butt doing that?
>>543453997Ok what the fuck is going on with these designs lol
Metal
>>543453997>>543454120The 'ol fling shit at the wall technique.Just keep making designs, over and over and over.
>>543453125hot
>>543452710>I want to see western Eggman NegaI have this.The rest is is porn lol
Rodents
Hello Kitty for Boys
Eggmonkey
Was doing a coding tutorial for making a game and the thing crash and i lost everything tonight.I need to draw to forget my frustration.GIVE REQUESTS.Prob can only do one.
>>543454534make something windy
SATAM INSPIRED METAL SONIC!
>>543453472Uncle Chuck is a very interesting early Metal Sonic for the fact that he was a metal Sonic who wasn't 'fast'.It's most likely he was based on the ideas for Silver Sonic the team had for Sonic 2 but I do agree he looks more like CD's Metal Sonic than Silver Sonic.
Is this Fleetway cover's Tails based on Sonic 2 concept art?
>>543454534Nicole crashing
>>543453472Thanks now where's the vibrate button
>>543454637(me)This one They have the same type of fur, miniscule legs are big head
>>543453440>>543453441He doesn't seem like he's enjoying the trip in wonderland
>>543454534>>543454534Draw Steel
>>543454627Ohishima worked on SATAM. This clearly inspired Metal Sonic.
>>543454821Dow...
>They timed the Joker festival to celebrate the launch of Persona 3 Reload on a system that doesn’t even have Crossworlds knowing too that everyone hates these eventsWhat the fuck Sega? The game is struggling playerbase wise anyway why keep killing it?
>>543454914>Ohishima worked on SATAMHe didn't. He got a SatAM poster from DiC as a gift but that's it. He only got it because he created Sonic. Ohshima was in Japan working in CD, he had no involvement in anything SoA was making
>>543454529kino
>>543454523ftfy
>>543454848...that just looks like a player 2 variant of Silver...
>>543454529Kek
>>543455015
>>543455001
>>543454529
>>543455039Ohshima is said to have reviewed scripts for SatAM.
>>543455443Where is it said because I've never heard of this
>>543455443By who? Violet?
>>543451592actually didn't antoine actually predate like every single character including Sonic because he was the one holdover from the pre-sonic version of satam DiC was cooking up that was about a bunch of short human dudes in a medieval fantasy setting iirc? This is super ultra deep cut shit that even as a lifelong huge satamfag i barely know about though, idk how much info of it even exists, but I think antoine and snively at least, maaaaybe an early version of sally, were around, i think satam basically completely reinvented most the characters or added them fresh based (mostly) off the animal frens>>543452226i'm still legit mad we never got some form of this, as much as i love satam as-is this looks like a cooler show that probably would've fit both sonic and 90s saturday morning better, but unless it was super high quality (lol, dic) i'm not sure it would've left as strong a lasting impact as the weird borderline-dark-fantasy show we got. like it might've just been a more action-oriented goofball fest like AoSTH. I will NEVER not wonder how that (pre) lola bunny sally might've looked in action though, and how many more kids she'd have cursed with the furry virus than she already did as-is lmao
>>543455503>>543455521I think he means picrel
>>543455352
>>543455117It's the evil Moebius variant
Violet has just enough Sonic knowledge to trounce the average comicfag but deliberately uses that knowledge to confuse the misinformed and spread inaccurate information.
>>543455593Huh that's interesting. Is there more information about this?
>>543454534Shadally
>>543455593>early scripsProbably the ones where Sonic wasn't part of the Freedom Fighters.Also, it says "reading" not "review".
>>543454821Having fun watching Shadow's suffering in Wonderland! >>543454856Sauce me up brudda
>>543452728they absolutely unironically are, 'cept sonic himself looks super awkward and Rotor could use some work to feel like he fits in more though the design is kind of sick lolit must be so depressing only being able to appreciate any designs for this entire series if they're a very specific type of chibi japanese soulless plasticy style
>>543455564>actually didn't antoine actually predate like every single character including Sonic because he was the one holdover from the pre-sonic version of satam DiC was cooking up that was about a bunch of short human dudes in a medieval fantasy setting iirc? This is super ultra deep cut shit that even as a lifelong huge satamfag i barely know about though, idk how much info of it even exists, but I think antoine and snively at least, maaaaybe an early version of sally, were around, i think satam basically completely reinvented most the characters or added them fresh based (mostly) off the animal frensI've never heard of any of this. Why is SatAM's development so obscure...
I'm glas sthg finally realized that Sparky is ultra autistic and wrong about everything he says about Sonic.
>>543455665>Tranny is misinformed and likes to confuse others with inaccurate infoWater is wet?...
>>543452226I like Johnny Lightfoot.
Would Shadow still have been friends with Maria if she had a distractingly large dick?
>>543453389so you're saying it was pure SOVL that's more important and meaningful than the rest of the Sonic canon combined? I'll make sure to tell Ian to add it more often, as well as "It's time to juice and cut loose!" and "Juice and jam time!"
>>543455973it was 1992 and the franchise was 1 year old and all they had was Sonic 1991. maybe Sonic 2 and the SoA bible that Ben Hurst didn't like much
>>543456016I'm glad sthg finally realized that Sparky is ultra autistic and right about everything he says about Sonic.
>>543456016I wouldn't say he's wrong about everything but he's so autistic to the point he refuses to even entertain the possibility of him being wrong and immediately shuts down arguments by vomiting text walls and using all caps on words. It's exhausting to argue with him
Violet is just Al Gore. Sharing an inconvenient truth to JP purists.
>>543455665THE ENEMY IS STRONG AND WEAK!
>>543456109>she>dickShadow would suck cock without hesitation for Maria, we all know this.
>>543456198JP purists shriek in fear at facts.They cannot handle that this franchise's history isn't as clear cut as they (and Naka) wish it were.
If Sparky ever watched SATAM and did his research he would be spouting the same stuff Violet does.
>>543456121Juice and jam are literally breakfast ingredients
SATAM DIALOGUE MAKES SONIC SOUND LIKE AN OUT OF TOUCH DAD!
>>543456198He can't accept the inconvenient truth that he's a man so why should I trust him on Sonic
>>543456435She was born with two X chromosomes
>>543456395>SATAM DIALOGUE MAKES SONIC SOUND LIKE AN OUT OF TOUCH DAD!people will say the same thing about movienic in 20 years
>>543456534This is an inconvenient truth to transphobes.
>90s cartoon makes Sonic sound old to a modern audiencewater is wet
>>543455615
>>543456652You too
>>543456164I don't just "vomit text walls" and how is typing a wall of text supposed to shut down an argument in the first place?
Sonic characters for this feel?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFnNfprGTX8
What do we think about her?
>>543456935Cute and canon!
>>543456341I've seen episodes of Sonic SatAM before.
>>543456687
The "Satam is accurate to the games" astroturf will not work sorry. I say this as someone who's seen Satam and knows every episode line by line.
>>543457006boobs
>>543457064It's closer to the games than IDW.
>>543457035Then you should not act as clueless as you are.
>>543457196Clueless about what?
sparky's penis is longer than he is tall
SatAM Tails sounds cute
>>543457109NO IT IS NOT!it just has the decency to actually establish itself as a separate universe with a SEPERATE status quo.
>>543457109You have to hate IDW an awful lot to say this. I haven't read it.
Dougebros work extremely fast. Already tons of fanart of the sonic and friends short.
>>543457060
>>543457064Not accurate but certainly inspired lots of stuff. It was more influential than IDW and X and Prime will ever be.It was the movienic of its time.
>>543457260>separate status quoThe status quo of the games is that Eggman took over islands and even an entire planet.How is taking over Miracle Planet different from taking over Mobius?It doesn't fit the status quo of the modern games but it does work as supplementary material for the classic games to fill in the blanks.
>>543457109IDW is out of character but there is *literally* no modern Sonic product as OOC as Satam. Not the movies, not Prime. Not IDW. I don't care how much these things annoy you. Satam clears them all.
>>543457351>The status quo of the games is that Eggman took over islands and even an entire planet. Inhabited by unintelligent and uncivilized critters!
AOSTH is closer to the games than IDW or the movies.
No "ooc" version of any character has done as much damage as uwuver". Nobody except idiots thinks Sonic wants a girlfriend. Nobody except one schizo thinks Forces Tails was acceptable. There are people who will die on the hill that Uwuver is in character and no character has this shit. Being a Silver fan is painful.
>>543457615BASED
Writing letters for Tails telling him I'm his biggest fan and that he's the best
>>543457884Yeah Sonic Team was heavily involved.
>>543457332Dow my dearest
>>543457676Forces gave Tails haters ammo and they beat it to death. Uwuver at least has people who like it as opposed to no one caring about Silver after he flopped in 06
>>543457948There were two different "Sonic Team"s. One was working on Sonic 2 and the other on Sonic CD
HAVE NO FEAR
>>543457676He's slowly being cured.
>>543457676>No "ooc" version of any character has done as much damage as uwuver".Archie Shadow:
Reminder that this sprite exists.
>>543457676Doing damage would mean that something good would have had to be in place prior, not the case with Silver
>>543458070>Uwuver at least has people who like itYES THAT'S THE WHOLE PROBLEMSonic characterfags will break your neck if you think Archie was IC. Tails charactefags HATE forces. Silver characterfags LOVE IDW and they're so fucking annoying. They will sign off on this raping of a character.
Why is this general so dead
>>543458210Rad
>>543458091Would pin her down and drag my tongue all the way up her back.
>>543458271maybe silver's character should have been stronger if it didn't want to be raped
>>543458332>Victim blaming
>>543458271Maybe that should tell you that Silver’s character wasn’t strong in the first place. You can’t ruin an already shit character
>>543458091
I always find it funny when people get uppity about their faves getting criticism or jabs from people but people who like any of the Deadly Six just no sell it lol
>>543452226>>543453651>>543453831>>543453997Guys, was this really meant to be a Sonic show from the beginning? Why not just use the FUCKING GAME DESIGNS?
>>543458385yes, that's the joke
>>543458426
Violet is correct that Sonic and Sally aren't even dating in satam. They are actually just beat friends who kiss each other. Yes it's weird.
>>543458285are you not entertained...
>World Peace (maple leaf head quills, cares about blue skies and the happiness of the world, eats apples because they're associated with peace and prosperity)>Purity(white color/straightforward/young/naive/immature/honest/cast as Galahad in SatBK)>Mu/Pause (Japanese martial arts concept, his story is littered with pauses)>Aoi(can mean blue or green and naive which is why his powers are both colors)>Tanabata with Blaze>Yin and Yang with Eggman Nega>Past/Present/Future with Sonic and Shadow>Duty and sacrifice (to gain something you must lose something, everyone trades their memories and initial relationships for a better timeline in the end)
I'm right about Sonurge
>>543458681No I'm just concerned as to why activity has steadily dwindled along with post quality. It wasn't that great two years ago, but it was better than now.
>>543457841>>543457676I hate niggèrs so much it's unreal
>>543458421You keep calling him shit without explaining how.
>>543443507Gerald created a retrovirus that turned 90% of humans into blobians, which is why there are no humans in IDW or in crossworlds.
>>543457006The Silver of IDW ocs
The summer leaves are turning brownThey're hanging loose on every limbAnd pretty soon they'll flutter downThe summer sun is growing dimAnd now you know the thoughts I ownThey're all that keep me feeling fineBut every longing's for my homeAnd it's my home that's on my mindSee you later, I'm goneThe time has come and I must be leaving (oh, baby)See you later (oh)See you laterSee you later, I'm goneYour summer smile has left me sadAnd though it's here it's not for meBut if it was, would I be glad?But if it was, would I feel good?To chase the wind as sea goes blackTo where the greener trees have grownWhere every thought of love won't dieAnd every longing's for my homeSee you later, I'm goneThe time has come and I must be leavingSee you laterSee you laterSee you later, I'm goneSee you later, I'm goneThe time has come and I must be leaving(Goodbye baby, oh baby)See you later (oh)See you laterSee you later, I'm gone (on my way)
Being a Silverfag and watching uwuver appear in official media is like if Surgefags had to watch Sonurgefags start to write her official character in idw.
>>543453472Isn't CD the most windfag game too? How do windfags cope with knowing archie/aosth is the foundation for wind sonic?
>>543459064They will ignore it.
>>543459064at least two of the windfags on this general are sallyfags pariah was also a satamfag who doesn't even like sonic x and he is one of the first windfags.
>>543459017
>>543458794Don't worry about that just remember that fun is infinite
>>543457109Name 10 game things that SatAM has that IDW doesn't.
>>543459185Painfully accurate
If you enter a portal in your dreams to sonic, you can't return. Did you know that?Be careful in your dreams. They matter more than what you think is your "waking" life.
People keep shitting on idw while taking for granted that it's the first American AU where Sonic isn't interested in getting a girlfriend. IDW is more in character. Fuck off. I don't care that you keep seething like it hurt your mom. Evan is also based.
>>543459193Sonic isn't some demonic nightmare entity he's a good guy
>>543459017Should of liked a better character lmao
>>543458189Not as big as Uwuver defenders.
>>543459064SatAMnic is pretty windy >>543455850It's really only the comics that diverge from Sonic's general windy-ness.
>>543459441Evan already has a husband, you can stop trying now.
>>543458902>>543155196
Rapnic could have an alibi in half a second
>>543451294storm my beloved
>>543459064>archie
>>543459458...
>>543457417>Not the movies, not Prime. Not IDW.this got to be bait
Want to get rid of Uwuver? Get rid of his shippers and female fans
>>543459778If you kissed psychopathic he would change his mind. He's just testing you to see if you really love him.
Uwuver is an upgrade
>This person is right about Sonic BUT [irrelevant meta drama] so actually they're wrong about SonicYou're either right about Sonic or you're not. Being "too autistic" or "too aggressive" doesn't change this. People such as Sparky and Randomfox are usually correct when it comes to Sonic, regardless of whether or not I agree with how they handle things. People who frequently disagree with their points tend to misunderstand Sonic or are more focused on online spats than the franchise itself. If someone is easily influenced into siding against what is true simply because they're personally annoyed with a behavior, why should others value their opinion on anything? It shows they're an unreliable person who changes their beliefs on a whim to "get back at" some fag on a Mongolian turtle breeding forum. It's entirely possible to feel irritated by someone while simultaneously acknowledging that they are correct about a specific point. I don't see many people here with the maturity required to do that. It's just "I dislike you, therefore you are wrong about everything" here every day, and it's nothing but unproductive well poisoning. I want to come here to learn more about the franchise I love.
>>543458210the white eyes always freaked me out... they still do actually
>>543456534>>543456601...and a y chromosome and a condition only men have. he/him wnbaw
Eggman is a master planner but he's also a clown. So he's the Batman Who Laughs.
>>543458447Didn’t the west say they hated the game designs and tried to get the California raisin guys to change them?
>>543459982Why the fuck should I care?
>>543459959Uwuver is the opposite side of potentialver and just as poisonous when unchecked
When are we getting a new game
>>543460268Frontiers 2.2027.Crossworld big game of this year and 2026.Please understand.
>>543460167Sorta.
>>543459982This is correct. Dismissing Randomfox's points on the basis of his attitude is simply electing to be wrong about Sonic.
>>543460117Then why do the men need to take HRT?
>>543459472Uwuver also exists as an extension of fandom interpretations of him that have always existed because of the English dub and Archie. As well as the general expectation for him to be like Trunks and be the opposite of Shadow in ways he's not supposed to.
>>543460397No one is going to listen to a psychopathic pedophile.
>>543460609cute and canon
>>543460609best ship
>>543459982Example: Dimitri Monroe
>>543460671>>543460685They are bretty grate
>>543460592So you really think he's psychotic? I think he just likes dramatic language
Regarding the character, Sonic is a character who can't stay still and acts immediately. Acting before thinking is an idea not often found in Japanese people, but this is the 'image of an American' as seen from a Japanese person's perspective.The comic books published in America do not understand this nuance.
>>543460210>*tap tap*
>>543460146Batman who laughs is the Batman equivalent of Sonic exe. Literally.
>>543460398because it's a medical condition you monkey, it says male in the very first sentence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter_syndrome
Posting Tails
>>543459982You need to understand just how much of the fandom is snapcube zoomers that believe in guilt by association. You can't make logical arguments against people wired by shame culture.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9otfTknEnA
>>543461207Tails Posting
>>543460973Yeah SATAM was a cartoon so based.
Raping Tails.
>>543461206Real men do not need HRT you dunce Wikipedia also says that transgenderism is real.
>>543461038Unless you’re actively being paid to write you’re just being autistic trying to be the rightest about watching a screen
Raping Tails in front of Sonic
>>543461560Only a racist would do that
>>543461357>>543461560Killing (You)
>>543461416You can take whatever chemicals you want, actually. It's a free world. It's easy as shit to make medical grade drugs in your basement too thanks to the knowledge of the internet.
>>543461625Yes but real men don't need HRT to be men.
>>543461341Correct.
Making sweet love with Tairsu
>>543461648Everyone should take HRT and other drugs to carefully monitor and control their levels. If you are a man and you take testosterone, you are on HRT.
>>543461739Holy woke Batman.
Remember the femanon who avatarfagged as Honey
>>543454534>>543454649Sorry, only one I could do tonight.I kept passing out drawing it, but finished it!Good night!
>>543461739what does the r stand for
>>543461852Replacement.
everyone should eat the bugs>>543461842good night anon
>>543461852You're replacing your body's natural functions with a more controlled process, no? The TRT sam hyde takes is a type of HRT, lmaoIt's literally just rules for goys, and you're happy to be under them, because you're a goy.
Robotnik.
Silvaze is the only ship that feels right. Silver is a juvenile dork with a heart of gold, and Blaze is an autistic but powerful princess with many insecurities, mainly her hyperfocus on royal duties and some self-esteem issues about her appearance. The only reason Blaze ever blushes around Sonic is that, despite having a crush on him, she simply doesn’t know how to act in his presence. With Silver, however, she can be herself, completely unfiltered, while Silver genuinely enjoys her company the way she. Blaze is the only one who truly understands how to help Silver control his emotions, guiding him toward calm through her own sense of discipline. Their relationship mirrors the dynamic between Bunnie and Antoine, a steady partnership where one's strength complements the other’s vulnerability. It's the perfect ship, it’s reciprocate and they complement each other beautifully. Picrel is 100% ic
not reading that
>>543461983Archie Antoine is OOC.
>>543461416real men do sometimes have to take hrt retard. it's a genetic condition. he has a penis and a y chromosome, so he is male even if he needs to inject himself with shit. he is legally a man and no amount of cope will change this, hwnbarw
>>543461983>Silver is a juvenile dork with a heart of goldStopped reading right. IDWnigger.
>>543461814What year was it
>>543461814>fem
>>543441746Long time ago... he was Chinese.
>>543462095>legally a manI have female documents.Please talk about Sonic instead of this nonsense.
>>543462095Yeah I don't know how anyone could think the obnoxious retarded attentionwhore is a girl after hearing his voice. Must be Slashy trying and failing to turn this place into his hugbox again.
>>543462095Those people are not real men
Kintobor is canon
>>543462346 you're a male according to U.S. law now. you will never be a female weirdo
I kind of like TailsAmy. Does anyone else like it when the "final" love interest for a character was the less obvious one? I think it's sweet. It goes to show that love doesn't always work in patterns. I know people hate that trope, especially in anime, but I always like it.
>>543462539What law?
>>543462346It seems this poster has a Y chromosome.
>>543462682I love it too for that reason because it reminds me of myself and my love!
>>543462682Is it true that Amy was going to marry Tails in 25YL but Sega vetoed it so Penders just used Mina?
>>543461416>>543461648"real men" also do not play sonic the hedgehog well into their adulthood. go hang drywall if you're a real man.
>>543462539>fake male needs to take HRT to appear male>umm the law says soThe law refuses to classify people like Violet properly because of religious cucks.
>>543462682>*describes a pattern*>It goes to show that love doesn't always work in patterns.
Cowboy hat SATAM Tails
>>543462912People like Violet are mentally ill and self-destructive.
>>543462939now i feel stupid and ashamed of myself.
>>543462795https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/
tanabatau
I HATE TailsAmy. I FUCKING HATE IT when one love interest is set up only to get swept away by another. Why do so many writers love this RETARDED trope? IT's fukcking annoying every time."I'm going to give a character dynamic between two characters only to have them get married to different people lol" WHY? Shouldn't you want US to understand the characters' romantic choices? IS this done just to make people angry? Fuck off. Fuck you. It's annoying every single time.
>>543462891That is more arbitrary
>>543463065Hopefully he will 41% soon
>>543463260based
>>543463239>tauIt's already a Japanese word fuck nigga
>>543462891Yes they do you cuck.
>>543463260This, truthnuke Tailsamy is shitAmy is for SonicKys Tailsniggers
Amy is for human cock
>>543463448How the fuck do you draw transphobic art? Draw Sonic and J.K. Rowling shaking hands while saying stuff like "friendship ended with Maria, now J.K. Rowling is my new best friend"?
>>543463107Don't care men who need HRT to be men are not real men.
>>543463573Sounds about as in depth as anything else they do
>>543463573>>543463448Lurk /lgbt/ more.
Some of you haven't recovered from Digmon's epilogue and it shows
Nine cocks
>>543463834Queer infighting is always peak
>>543463834>Lurk /lgbt/ more.Why would I lurk a gay board if I'm straight?
>>543463448There is. But I can draw more if you'd like.
>>543463890No one recovers from that ending. Fuck 02.
>>543464068A straight pairing isn’t inherently transphobia cause no one is coming for your fucking McNuggets
Sonurge is more popular than Shadria
>>543463458Maybe Sonic should do something about it then
>>543464068Maria needs SPANKINGS
the only winners here are everythingGODS
>>543464068>I can draw more if you'd like.(x) doubt
>>543464068The tranny here posts more Shadria than you do.
>>543463448pretty sure someone here drew fanart of that trannic unleashed mod fiasco
We have to kill Silver.
>>543463890https://files.catbox.moe/qp6efb.mp4
we have to live silver.
>>543464519Cause “pretty sure” counts for so much when proving a point
Sonic’s world should be like Kirby’s
It's amazing how everything about Silver is almost engineered to stir controversy.
>>543464881He's basically the new Sally!
>>543464519 (me)found it>>543464708i don't care about your point nor your gay discussion, i was just answering the question
>>543464932>the football breastsHAH
I want to have sex with the IDW lesbians, not just any kind of sex, you know, I'm talking about that that kind of... BESTIALITY sex, y'know, perverted sex with Whisper and Tangle and Lanolin and Surge and Jewel.
>>543464932Yea, answering it poorly with nothing, retard.
>>543464821Like fuck why is there no one working in Sonic that loves him as much as Sakurai loves Kirby?
Egg family.
>>543465049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8kA1Z4mPFM&list=RDA8kA1Z4mPFM&start_radio=1
>>543465248Is that Phillipe Etchebest?
>>543465056Everyone involved with Sonic’s creation either just viewed it was a cash grab from the start or wanted to move on
>>543464928Sally is at least fuckable
>>543465248What can I say? I love gutter sluts, and all of the IDW girls are gutter sluts.
>>543465382Who
>>543465058adding more leaves to the eggman family tree with sage
>>543465643Phillipe Etchebest.>>543465710And her brother Thym.
>>543464283its not youre just only on the english side when shadria is an eastasian ship
>>543465874>it’s not except for only when it is
>>543465874are you telling me that Japan likes zoophilia
sonurge will be more popular IN japan than Shadria
>>543466074If IDW was Japanese mimic would have a teenage girl too
>>543464497Dunno what ypu're implying, but almost everything he posts is a repost saved from me. I was also told I was "spamming" by posting more than I do. I can post more if you'd like.
Violet is Krack, don't believe her lies.
>>543466198Violet's interests are too male-gaze for that.
krack-chan
>>543466148And then you’ll just not understand why people hate you again, right?
>>543466148I get my posts from public archives and directly from artists' social media accounts. It is a bold assumption to presume I merely 'repost' from you.I have never once saved an image you've posted in the thread from your post featuring it.
>>543466148Maria needs spankings and you won't convince me otherwise.
I genuinely get the impression from this that Evan does not actually like the core of what makes Sonic well Sonic.
Jesus Krack stop pretending to be someone else, we know it's you, you're the only Krack shipper in this shithole.
>>543466418>You suck if someone posts more Shadria than you, but you also suck if you post more ShadriaI understand you're dumb and shouldn't be listened to. Does that count?
Krack I want you to reply to my post please>>543466558
Krack and Violet are based, and I'm tired of pretending they're not
>>543466558The only thing she likes about SatAM is that it inspired Archie. She outright admits she does not care for the show beyond its worldbuilding. The fact she prefers 'emotional' Sonic over windnic is proof of this.She only likes Boom because it provides her cover for OOC.She hates comedy.
it seems like this general is just mad at windfags for being right all the time
>>543466681Yea you’re playing stupid again. Trust me no one can see you do that tehee girl power
your anus is out of character
>>543466847
Krack is astroturfing again.
>>543466923my anus is a well trained actor
>>543466847Krack and Violet are like Shadow and Sally.Drawfags should draw art of them as Shadow and Sally.
>>543466865What about the films? I think the films has what she is looking for. What else in Sonic would fulfill that need?
Everyone here is out of character and I can't fucking stand it, I want wind/sthg/ and not emotional gay /sthg/, just like the Japanese intended.
>>543466558"I'm a fan of a more emotional take on Sonic."No. Just, no. Sonic isn't some weepy little bitch from a Japanese cartoon who needs "room to breathe." He's a 90s American hero with ATTITUDE. He's supposed to be COOL. He's about action and freedom, not sitting in a circle talking about his feelings.This is the Jap-shit rot that these people inject into the series. They pretend to like SatAM but don't get why it was great, then turn around and praise the Japanese version of X. They don't want the real Sonic, they want a therapy patient. Get these hacks off the book already.
>>543467047I don't think Evan cares about cinema.She doesn't strike me as someone who's seen a lot of films. I don't think she's ever cited a movie as inspiration before. She seems far more interested in animanga and American television than cinema.
>>543466558So this is why we get sad woobies like Belle and Lunar rather than characters that exude cool like the franchise is supposed to have?
>>543467180She liked Howl's Moving Castle but only the book.
You have to be a complete idiot to not see that Krack and Violet are the same person.
I shit myself whenever I see Sonic out of character. I spend hundreds of dollars each week on new underwear because of this.
>>543467328Just like Biden and Trump
Sonic shipping for this?
>>543467180Yeah but wouldn't she care about Sonic like we do?
>>543467328Let me guess, you also think Chronicles anon and ShadallyScribbles are the same person.
>>543466865>she likes about SatAM is that it inspired Archie.That's how most Archie fans view SatAM.
>>543467353Just wash it.
>>543466558At least Flynn seems to like Sonic.I genuinely wonder after reading this why Evan dedicated her career to Sonic. Does she even play most of the games?
>>543467543That would be out of character at this point.
>>543467585>I genuinely wonder after reading this why Evan dedicated her career to Sonic. Does she even play most of the games?She has no choice they hired her when she was fucking 18 with no education and no work experience and now she's 33
>>543467180OUR FRANCHISE IS GOING TO BE RUN BY A FAKE FAN?
>543466491You've saved Shadria art I've posted here many times. https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/EAwuGk7e905v4DDhfgnoZQ/You repost Shadria art I saved that's only available on a region-locked Chinese social media app. >>543466709(You)?
Bot Ian and Evan are just awful
>>543467643She had an internship at Sony and did nothing with it.She could've worked on other projects but chose not to.She didn't have 'no choice'. She attended Art College for 3D animation and did fuck-all with it.
Both Violet and Krack like to claim that Sonruge is an OOC pairing
Sonic penis is delicious
>>543467775Yes this post please. I want to see your rage.>>543466558
I want every character to be out of character.
>>543467864Wait she could have worked on the games and went back to the comics? What was the point of going to college? I hope she had a scholarship at least otherwise she wasted someone else's money hardcore.
>>543467775That art's publicly available on X.It isn't 'only available on a region locked website' whatsoever.This is such a weird thing to obsess over.
We can see through your bullshit Krack, quit it. You're Violet.
Jokes aside, are you guys suggesting that Krack would create a tranny alter-ego and still not think to make it not a windfag
>>543468183She's an idiot so yes
>>543467585>At least Flynn seems to like Sonic.Only Archie Sonic. He clearly doesn't care about the rest of the franchise.
>>543468206I think he cares about Classic Sonic at least.
>>543468198My retarded wife!
>>543468183Yes, this wouldn't be the first time she does something like that.
I'm certain Evan admitted somewhere that her first Sonic game was 06 and that's how she was introduced to her fave Silver.
>>543468314>06 caused EvanTerrible. Game.
>>543468314She wrote gotf immediately after 06. It's impossible for her to have been influenced by Archie silver since his personality traits came out after her comic
>>543467873*Tink tink tink*Ladies; gentlemen, distinguished guests.If you'll permit me, I'd like to take a moment of your time.*Ahem*There is not a single Sonurgefag that understands the characters. It's almost impressive how delusional and fanfic-brained they are. They literally ignore everything about both characters just to force their shitty enemies-to-lovers fanfiction garbage. Surge fucking HATES Sonic with every fiber of her being - it's not some cutesy tsundere bullshit, she wants him DEAD because of what Starline did to her. Durrhurrdurrrr "green girl mean to blue boy omg they should kiss he should mindbreak her into a generic waifushit fuckmeat trophywife"It's the same retarded logic that infected every other fandom. Take two characters with actual conflict and depth, strip away everything that makes them interesting, and turn them into generic romance template trope #47. They don't give a shit about Surge's trauma or her legitimate grievances, they just want another "bad girl gets fixed by good guy" power fantasy.They even butcher IDW Sonic's character which in itself is a butchering of the real Sonic. Apparently they think Mr. "I don't force my beliefs on others" is going to emotionally manipulate a mentally damaged teenager into loving him. "B-b-but she could be redeemed!!!" Missing the entire fucking point that Surge works BECAUSE she's an irredeemable consequence of Sonic's world. She's not meant to be saved. But god forbid we have interesting character dynamics or a rare female villain character when we could have more bland shipping slop instead. Sonurge is for people who look at a traumatized character study and think "but what if it was porn and I could jerk off to it?"That is all. Thank you.
https://www.mobygames.com/game/135358/concrete-genie/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PixelopusI guess Evan Stanley worked on a failed game so that is why she is embarrassed to mention it.
SEGA Executive here. We have listened to your demands. 100% more crying for every character from this moment onward, please understand.
>>543468394Who ever said she was influenced by Archie Silver? Archie Silver was just the result of his dub voice and localization and fanart.
>>543468437Working for a first party studio would still be a big deal. I know she was asked what she would do if IDW ended (before SEGA hired her) and she said she would survive off of commissions.She does not want to do anything but draw Sonic characters.
>>543468428>t. i don't understand tsundere shipslow iq
After hearing this about Evan, is there anyone working on Sonic who did not fail upwards?
>>543468640Jeff Fowler, Patrick Casey and Josh Miller95.
>>543466558>movies are not emotionalWe used to call movienic blue Silver for how emotional he got. What is she even looking for?
>>543468314>Her first game was Sonic 06That explains so goddamn much about her writing and preferred Sonic stories
>>543468728Oh right, I guess this is a SEGA problem.
>>543468728The writers just gave me one note. A single number. "95." That was it. I didn't need anything else. The games... they have lore, they have history, but do they have a 95% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes? No. So my character's job was to just... post the number. "95." Let them fill in the blanks. Let their rage fuel the scene. It's minimalist theater.
>>543469015Are we really just going to have another thread full of IDW characterization discussions, shipping wars and stupid gay namefag drama?
>>543469049yeah
When I was a kid I thought Knuckles’ real name was Katie because his initials in the S3&K display were K•T•E.
Remember when someone asked Pat Casey about the mandates and he said Sega arent a bunch of strict nazis over what you can do
Was it Maekawa's fault for the emotional stories or...?
Sonic is a bad franchise except for Archie.
If you think that Pat Casey is the best writer since the films are so successful I guess you think George Lucas is an amazing film director since the Star Wars series is so successful.
>>543469278Yeah, I do.
Chacron is the Big the cat of chao and i love him
>>543466558>that sonic boom reviewHOLY RED FLAG
In short, we're fucked as a franchise.
>>543469161Ian is the one who popularized the mandates boogeyman because he wasn't allowed to have Sonic crying his eyes out or making Amy gay.
I think Ian's autism would actually be beneficial for the movies. Team him up with Fowler who isn't bad at directing.
Are Moviefags the next Windfags?
Sonic died with the Dreamcast
>>543469359She REALLY does not like Sonic holy moly.
Sonic should've ended at SA1
>>543469469Yeah.Each movie is continuously better than the last.Movie 3 was a hit with audiences and critics.Gamefags, JPfags, westfags, they have history, sure. But do they have a 95% audience score?No, they don't.It's hard to make a case for why other media matters. It's esoteric to argue the arcane 'sacred word' of 'god' (Ohshima, Naka, Hurst, Penders, pick your poison).A 95% audience score speaks for itself.The films' world gets more rich and fleshed out with each installment.
>>543467932I read it and don't feel anything except for maybe slight annoyance at her preference for emotional Sonic. Now what
>>543469528But Shadow is in SA2.
>>543469528But the sexbait is in SA2.
67
>>543469469Are you kidding? They will be 100 times bigger. Windfags are basically the equivalent of what satamfags were in the 2000s demanding the series return back to what it was when they were kids.Moviefags are even MORE justifiable because the movies actually get better each time. A kid growing up with the Sonic movies is having the most epic time imaginable. They WILL have nostalgia for this era.
>>543466558Evan literally admits she doesn't care about comedy or pacing, just wants "emotional scenes to breathe" regardless of characterization. That's the problem right there, she prioritizes her fanfic-tier "feels" over what actually makes Sonic work. SatAM fan explains everything. She's chasing that slow, melodramatic Archie vibe instead of understanding what Sonic is supposed to be. The Movie comment seals it - she wants emotional slop over actual Sonic energy and pacing. This is why her comics drag and feel off. She doesn't get it. She's writing what SHE wants, not what fits Sonic. Typical writer who grew up on the wrong shit trying to make Sonic into something it's not.
>watching a video of some sonic fan girl reviewing sonic character designs>she didn't even know blaze has a super form Rush franchise deserves better...
>>543469316sauce
https://files.catbox.moe/1sy9sp.mp4This would legitimately happen in the Sonic series if Blaze fans had their way.
>>543469812She only likes SATAM because it lead to Archie.
>>543451294they are all fucking peak man
>>543466558>Hire DA tumblrite fan artist who's spent her teens and most of her 20's in her own echo chamber>Suprised Pikachu.jpeg when she doesn't like or understand what this franchise is about and can't write anything other than sad sob stories and melodrama.
The more Ian and Evan talk or have their takes uncovered the more you wonder how either them passed as Sonic fans.
Evan loved 06 so much she seeks to invoke it in her work. Those powerful scenes gave her inspiration
Watching SATAM there are other humans besides Robotnik and Snively.Why did this show spawn the Eggman is the only human defenders?
>>543470127SatAMfags are furries who hate humans and ignore the humans in the show.
fans should not write tho
>>543469469movietrannies have nothing without jim carrey Jim "carries" them Movienic is forgettable as fuck
>>543469161https://files.catbox.moe/opl546.mp4I have the specific quote
>>543470127When I was watching Satam I was caught off guard when WHILE discussing Sally's brain the characters talked about "human complexity of the mind" as if to say that humans are still the "Default" species even in Satam.
>>543470332Sonic references human pop culture like Axel Rose too.
>>543469801I ripped Sonic 3 from my 4K BluRay CD of it and I'm annoyed because there's an issue with my video player transcoding the file's BT.2020 color space, so all .gifs and .webms made from it have incorrect colors. Now I need to find a way to force my video player to output the correct colors. They should upgrade these movies to 8K. It's current year. I want to zoom in even further on Shadow.
Imagine an everythingfag canon but all of the weird stuff is still localized to the characters. The Satam characters are always in a scifi dystopian tone. Shadow is always in a retrofuturistic scifi anime vibe. Boom characters are always in comedy and so on but they all live on one planet still interacting and crossing over. That would be very hectic.
>>543470332>>543470127>he didn't read season 3 notesNgmi
>>543470483Isn't that just Violet's Sonic Union project?
>>543470479This is what mental illness looks like btw.
>>543466558How can she like 06 when it starts off with Sonic's brand of energy and Sonic's whole story is making Elise understand his brand of optimism?
>>543470554More like mental retardation to the extreme.
>>543470624Both, actually.
I like that one anon's headcanon that Satam is just the basis for Sonic x>Sonic has 3 quillsBoth shows>Humans aren't on Sonic's worldIn Satam, they are canonically off on space colonies. This is also true in Sonic X, where the humans in Sonic's universe have already moved on to space. Sonic even notes that the constellations on his world are still the same as Earth meaning his planet must be some version of earth, past, present, future, parallel. >What happened to the freedom fightersThey just stopped being involved once Eggman was taken down>RingsThe exact same design and function in both shows
>>543470554What? Wanting 8K videos with gigantic filesizes in order to zoom in very close on Shadow as I look through each individual frame is perfectly rational, sane, and mentally healthy.
>>543470694There are humans in Sonic's world in SATAM.
Did you destroy the Roboticizer in Spinball and saved the little animals, right?
>>543470624how
>>543470127Wait what? Do SATAMfans just want their show to be hated?
Fleetway is actually the Source of Eggman is the only human.
the idea that sonic isn't supposed to have cities is also satamfag nonsense that doesn't add up. There are cities in the show. Sonic isn't supposed to live in the forest, he and the others were driven there by Dr. Robotnik taking over the rest of the world. It is even made clear that Sonic isn't used to being in the forest when they help the dinosaurs.
Japan built Sonic heavily on themes such as environmentalism and pro-freedom ideals. And yet, in just a year, Americans swooped in to introduce Sonic's obsession with chili dogs, which was later integrated into the games. Chili dogs are made via the mass-enslavement and slaughtering of pigs, which are extremely intelligent animals who feel pain and sadness just like we do. Americans saw a story about freeing animals from cruel exploitative captivity and chose to make Sonic's favorite food a product of that very exploitation. From the very beginning, America has repeatedly subverted and undermined Sonic's core messages and principles. If Americans had their way Sonic's genius design would have been trashed in favor of a design inspired by California Raisins. No zoomer has ever heard of California Raisins because it's not a timeless design. Just as Eggman is meddling with nature, American influence has been meddling with Sonic's original spirit. The message of Sonic is to leave things in their natural state, to cherish freedom and unspoiled beauty, yet Americans, driven by egotistical narcissism, attempt to forcibly reshape these ideals. Sonic's love of chili dogs is a symbol of corruption, oppression, and industrialization. If you think about it, JP purists are like Sonic, steadfast in their desire to protect and preserve things as they are, while Americans embody Eggman in that they attempt to destroy and alter the natural state of the franchise for their own gain.
>everythingfag pfhahahahha they really get butthurt when you tell em that version of sonic is not like the games and they get suicidal about for some reason >SONIC IS SONIC >sure , but game sonic is totally different than the OOC sonic you like >AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I HATE YOU PURIST every single time
>>543471026There were humans on that Mobius too, although Fleetway was never consistent with it.
>>543470127This guy said he could not understand the reason for humans being featured in SA1, but surely he watched SATAM and AOSTH and realized that was never the case.
Krack melty
What a sad franchise.
Eggman wanted to impregnate this teenager.
"Sonic is Sonic" until you start demanding that Archie/IDW/Satam Sonic start acting like the one from the games, suddenly they realize they're getting a lot of shit they don't want.
I think the only continuity that was flat out no humans besides Robotnik was Sonic Underground.
>>543471368She's so obvious, she even abandoned her Violet persona to have a meltdown
>>543471057This is established with the intro of the show. Did Flynn ever watch SATA,M?
>>543471396Based.
>>543471396Based Eggman.
I'm starting to think the people who complained about the humans were barely Sonic fans. Pure secondaries who just saw that there were no humans in the classic games and just thought the entire franchise never had humans until Sonic Adventure
>>543471354Yeah, he's a hack.SatAM has human characters like Snively and Lazar.There were scrapped plans for more like Nate Morgan too.
my wifeo
Refute itChili dogs are a symbol of oppression
>>543471669Tney're canonically made of Seaweed according to Penders and Sega of America so it's fine.Prime reinforces this with 'seadogs'.
>>543471267this is the opposite of what happens though as evidenced by the daily meltdowns happening on this general
>>543471057>It is even made clear that Sonic isn't used to being in the forest when they help the dinosaurs.Oddly similar to how Game Sonic is supposed to like cities.
>No one actually watched SatAM. People only knew about it from secondhand information.Lol.
>>543470931You can tell from >>543466558 that they never cared for SATAM outside of inspiring Archie.
This have to be a falseflag or retardation
>>543471951Guess who is doing it
>>543471898Can you blame them when Archie soured its reputation?
>>543472004Archie IS its reputation. It's the only reason people remember the show.
>>543471898its people who read archie that prop satam up as amazing and they didnt even fucking watch it
Nate Morgan was intended to have an eccentric personality. He was someone who adored nature, to the point he couldn’t stand having to be inside Castle Acorn as the environmental advisor to the King, and so he left to live outdoors. Nate enjoyed telling jokes and stories, playing cards, singing, and doing magic tricks. He also would have had a deep concern for Sally’s burden as future ruler of Mobius.
Holy fuck I try to take every turn as tight as possible and people speed past me on the outside and then the instant I'm in a mid position I get bombarded with items
I remember when I enjoyed playing the games. Or maybe I don't remember. I just wish to return to those innocent days.
>>543472140This is way better than midget Baxter Stockman.
>>543471635Flynn complained about it.
>>543471635This but whenever people shit on Sonic having friends outside of Tails, Knuckles, and Amy
>>543472140why did they change him from an interesting concept to a midget scientist
Shogakugan also had humans
>>543472140Why didn't they just transition this character fully to Archie?
>>543471769why do you lie when the sallyfags that keep saying "sonic is sonic" was malding 3 thread straightThey want the multimedia interpretations of sonic to be their own thing while searching for validation and crying about the games for some reason and how that "different thing they like" need to be in the games for some shitty reason
>>543471635How about you think clearly and don't pretend being a Sonic fan is accepting every dumb decision Sonic Team makes?
>>543471757Nah. Chili dogs are made of meat. Sonic visits a bunch of hot dog stands in Unleashed, they aren't vegan.
>>543472198Who eventually gets killed off unceremoniously via nuke and nobody ever mentions him again despite having a close relationship with several characters.
>>543472374>SallyfagsThe most vocal Sallyfag in this general is a windfag though
>>543472456But that'd be... showing moderation, instead of overreating to everything and acting like I won...
>>543472543Yeah, you do that. Show moderation rather than being an eternal victim like a dumbass.
>>543472456How are humans a dumb decision when they've always been in the franchise, Secondary-kun? Look like you're angry because you feel called out by that post.
Sonic Team and SoJ has the final say and this will never change
>>543472596I-I'm not sure I can do that... It requires an IQ over 20...
>>543472505Then that's Japan's fault and not the west.Both Wildbrain/DIC and Penders say they're vegetarian.
>>543472642Agree 06 and Forces are masterpieces
It is time to admit that Fleetway/Archie fags and Sonic Team both wanted the humans and mobians on separate worlds.SOA and SOJ are the enemy of you all.
sonic sez: i'm at the combination pizza hut and taco bell on jamaica avenue
>>543472538>Most vocal SallyfagI can't tell if this is supposed to mean scribblefag or Violet because one of them prioritizes the games above all and the other thinks Satam should be treated with validity by JPchads
We should learn from Pokemon fans and stop criticizing SEGA.
>>543472456>humans were always part of sonic >uhm..me as a """fan"""" don't like this please change!!mmmm....something something you are fan of the sonic inside your head and you may as well quit the franchise if you don't like the most basic stuff??
>>543472637"Humans have always been part of the franchise, which is why they never appeared in any game except for Eggman, and Eggman is the only character who is allowed to be a cartoon like the animals. Clearly you didn't read these obscure manga or animations showing other humans. You are just a fake fan who doesn't suck Sonic Team cock in order to preserve their "artistic vision".I'm calling you a worthless consoomer now.
>>543472456Humans have been a thing since Sonic 1. BEFORE Sonic 1, with Madonna. Kill yourself nonfan furfaggot.
>>543472764Fucking Leon S. Kennedy ripoff.
>>543472886They appeared in ALL of the side media dumbass except for Fleetway where they were explicitly on a separate planet but we need to recognize that Fleetway was never really cared about by SEGA at all
>>543472653If a cockroach can complete the first Green Hill, so can you show some moderation.
>>543472982But a cockroach has, like... a brain.
>>543472898Nonfan.
>>543472886Fucking retard>>543472896Kyyyyssssss
>>543472374idk every time i check this general its just the same three people crying about whatever incarnation of sonic they hate the most being out of character over and over again
Why is it that I'm always fighting from the bottom spots and even if I take every fucking turn perfectly I can never catch up
Groundhog day.
>>543473035The JP purists are having their minds blown right now that SATAM had humans in it besides Robotnik and Snively.
>>543472896Oh wow, you sure showed me>>543473020>Scrapped Jessica Rabbit rippoff is proof of humans in classic gamesI take it back >>543473013, a cockroach has more of a brain than these people.
>>543473062penis
>>543473062abuse wisp shortcuts
>>543472896Those hieroglyphs are supposed to be Echidnas we can see them in SA2.
sthg would be bettter if it was just windfags so at least the arguments would be about the same characters and not your stupid spinoff versions
>>543472959Fleetway literally had humans on Mobius too. They just retardedly ignored it whenever they did the Earth plot.
We are now in a world where the SATAM fans are now the pro human side
>>543473258So this threads would just be about pointless shipping all day long.Wow, what a riveting difference.
>>543473282Robotnik does not count. SATAM clearly had humans native to its world.
>>543466558I'm Learning Japanese to consume Sonic franchise the way it was meant to be, far from the faggot western homosexual fandom
>>543466558Learning how to be a true Sonic artist means learning how to draw human women.
>>543472886And we never saw a crowd of blobians. So I how could you assume Sonic and the others were an actual population and not just rare beings among the loads of actual animals you release from capsules?
We all agree AOSTH is the best content since Sonic is supposed to be cartoony.
krack speaking japanese in her best weeb accent...
>>543473349>learning a whole fucking language for a franchise that is dead in said country where it is spokenCringe
>>543473317>So this threads would just be about pointless shipping all day long.No? windfags all agree on the exact same ships because they don't like deviations from the canon characterizations.
Why is IDW being pushed on the no humans rule when everyone loves the films?
>Humans were never part of classic....AKC!!Produced by SEGA RD themselves by the wayJust quit this fucking franchise you goddam trannoid secondary
>>543473346Fleetway literally had some humans in the background and there was this other human scientist who appeared an issue.
>>543466558Behold, Silver's number One Fan! That explains so much about Uwuwver!
>>543473579Show me that would blow my mind since STCO apparently did not want to show humans being major part of any stories.
Why isn't this bitch banned?
>>543473446So it would be the same content over and over and over.Beautiful.>>543473436Start for Sonic, go to another franchise and then forget about Sonic.
The Sonic franchise not having humans until SA1 is the biggest gaslight in the entire franchise.
>Movieshave humans in the background>Mangahas humans in the background>PrimeHas human offshoots of Eggman>Shadow generationshas GUN soldiers >IDWummm uhh sowweee its set on le SONIC'S WORLD
Mindbroken
>>543473571Oh wow, a cartoon made years after the first two games...riveting.>>543473738That's a fancy term, is a shame you're using it wrong as the ignorant ape you are.
>>543466558Does she even like Sonic?
I'm trying every gadget, every car, every character and I'm still getting fucked by item spam
You see, this is why Krack is fucking annoying, also at least we know she's Violet now.
>>543473136Kill yourself dude
>>543473630He's the scientist guy in particular.
>>543473885every morning, every evening, every afternoon, and it's so true
>>543473780What about Fleetway and Archie?
>>543473625i am just glad the nightmare its over and uwuver its dying.
who cares about humans? if they got something to add to the plot like Abraham Tower the human man then sure. otherwise it's fruitless. shut up
>>543473780>MoviesNon-canon adaptations made decades after the first games.>MangaPromotional slop. I bet you also think Sonic is the alter ego of some nerd, you pussy.>PrimeOnly Eggman.>Shadow GenerationsOh wow, a sequel to Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow The Hedgehog is proof Sonic "always had humans".>IDWNobody likes humans. Why else would "Maria the hedgehog" be a thing? Either that or Evan Stanley and co don't want to draw them, and appearently that's bad.
>>543473938This comic is hideous. Why do people gas it up so much?
>>543473984>picThat guy does silver gay porn
>>543474026>Nobody likes humansLook at the movie universe.
>>543474030It's kino when Elson draws it
humans are CUTE and CANON
>>543473835You are seething so hard over the fact humans were always a fundamental part of Sonic and weren't a "later" addition.
>>543472764Sonic Team didn’t want that, though.
>Why are no humans in the west and east islands? holy retard
>>543474026>>543473960I'm talking about how IDW is unique in having thos whole "Sonic's world" stchick. There is at least one other non eggman human in every other current release. >But the shatterverseThe Chaos Council, despite all appearing to be Eggman counterparts, are not related to each other. They say this on debut.
>>543473896>Mannequinns are prooflmao>>543474094I am. I'm sure the Sonic fandom loves a fat fuck, generic male lead and his black wife, the black histeric woman, and the queer bait assistant. Only the latter holds true.>>543474204I'm not seething, you just cannot convince me.
>>543473889What are you talking about schizo
>>543474263>The Chaos Council, despite all appearing to be Eggman counterparts, are not related to each other.All are fractures of Eggman created by the Shatterverse, so, by all considerations, we are talking of 5 Eggmans. Not related, but still pieces of the same person.
>>543474213Sonic X and Sonic Forces.
>>543474275Sonic fandom does not matter. Wide audience love it and that is what matters overall.
>>543474432Sonic Team didn’t make X. Yuji Naka claimed he didn’t know what two-worlds was.
>>543474275Not only are humans canon, but they also kiss blobians, and it's perfectly legal.
>>543474479I'm getting reminded of the movie critics who were dissapointed by Tom having a lesser role in the second movie. Anyway.
>>543474414I don't really care about the specifics, just that there's a group of them and that it isn't made significant (Even though they briefly talk about Sonic as if he is an animal). IDW has witchcart, I'll hand it that. But only witchcart. IDW has the lowest human representation out of all current releases.Yes, I am also counting the spinoff characters in Crossworlds, tehy are humans in a Sonic game. I am not particular about how or why they are in it. I don't care about the circumstances. They are there, they aren't in IDW. IDW is the odd one out. I don't blame IDW. The writers have said this was Sega's decision and I believe them, but that begs the question of why. Why are humans allowed in literally everything except IDW.
>SONIC JAM OFFICIAL VIDEO DONE BY SEGA RD IS NOT REAL AAAAAAAAAAAjust embarrasing
Humans belong in concentration camps
>>543474639This is why satamsissies and archiecucks need to be chased off
Hating humans in Sonic games is anti-wind behavior and that's not negotiable.
>>543474610Flynn said he stopped trying and we also know how bad his pitch was for Sticks.He also said he wanted Tangle to not know what humans are so I legitimately believe he messed it up
>>543474610>Why are humans allowed in literally everything except IDW.Because humans have never been popular outside of the Robotnik lineage. The characters who get the most reactions in the fanbase are the anthros, and those are the characters the comic staff enjoy drawing and writing.Sometimes the simplest answer is the real one: because nobody wants to write or draw humans. Sonic X had humans because they needed humans in order to adapt their golden rooster Shadow, and the movies by necessity need humans for the actors.
>>543474792>He also said he wanted Tangle to not know what humansthere's like 40 reasons this makes no sense
>Extremely racist towards humans>Only character who loves a human
Man I'm fucking done tonight, could not get a single placement higher than 4th. If this is what online is like B+ and up then idk what I'm meant to do cause this shit is ass. I feel like my gadgets don't change anything.
I am playing a sonic game and I am not having a good time.
>>543474854Maria has been unmentioend for the entirety of IDW but is immediately namedropped once DC publishes a Sonic comic. Is it really a creative decision or just Sega refusing to update their agreement with IDW that started when it was a Sonic Forces promotional comic? Just speculating here.
>>543474854People like Maddie, Tom, and Stone. There's almost no hate for them and they get a lot of content.
>>543474992>but is immediately namedropped once DC publishes a Sonic comicbecause that all Flynn knows about shitdowIan cannot think outside references.>Batman parents were killed >OH YEAH JUST LIKE LE MARIA!!
I remember the guy who did the Sonic in minutes parodies once discussed why the Japanese seem to be afraif of creating stories with only anthropomorfic animals unless a human is involved, OR the female anthros look like humans.He noted how Krystal from Star Fox was made by the British.I honestly think this is why humans aren't in Western content: a cultural preference.
>>543474898Shadow isn't racist towards humans. He doesn't like "people" The word he uses is "Ningen" which is more often used to mean "people" than "humans". Shadow the Hedgehog translated it as "Humans" when no other Sonic game actually corroborates this. It doesn't really make any sense. He isn't particularly fond of "Mobians" in any way. There is no japanese indication that Shadow hates the species known as Homo spaiens in particular.
>>543474886I can share the clip if you want.
>>543474986Windbro btw
>>543475159Please do.
>>543475103He is an artificial life form with no "past", he wasn't born, he was created in a lab, and experienced a tragedy of humanity killing a defenseless child. When he finally sees the world, all he can think of is "how pathetic the humans are". It's clear if it wasn't for Maria giving him some moral alignment, Shadow would just see humanity as beneath his notice and not bother with anyone like some sort of deity who ignores the people's prayers.
>>543474982I am having the same problem anon. I have no idea how so many people reached legend rank.
>>543475103>The word he uses is "Ningen" which is more often used to mean "people" than "humans".I'm confused by the difference.
Kek
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>>543475472Sonic is a person. Sonic is not a human. Only one Sonic game makes sure to translate Shadow's use of the word as "humans"Imagine if every time a sonic character said "Ningen" it was translated as "Humans" you would notice the difference. A character using "Humans" in dialogue is a way to telegraph to the audience that the character talking does not see humans as their peers in some manner, big or small. I could be wrong, but I'm certain I'm not. As catchy as it seems.
>>543475472Look, Dragon Ball Super suffered from the same thing. Zamasu is a god, and he hates mortals, but the translators didn't fully get this part until later and translated it as him hating humans, which led to people being confused.Doesn't help some translations aren't even consistent with this.Regarding Shadow, the context was lost in translation, but I geniunely doubt Shadow saying "mortals" would be better.
>>543475185It's the sequel to s3&k so it's gotta be good, right?
The games don't seem to differentiate between humans and animal people.It's just cartoon logic that humans and animals live alongside one another and nobody mentions it.The comics, cartoons, anime and manga are the only ones that try to draw a line.
Even i as a shitdow hater get the point of shitdow and how he only experienced the bad of humanity first and how maria wanted him to learn there are good and bad people. Its why 05 has a contrast with GUN Commander and his desire to fix GUN attrocities from before and how him and shadow judge a person without knowing them first.
>>543473630>>543473938There are also other humans.https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Zorabelhttps://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/MillerSo yeah, Robotnik wasn't the only one.
>>543475472DBS did the same thing translating "ningen" as humans and it resulted in a character referring to chearacers who are clearly not humans as "humans". The term is meant for "people" Shadow doesn't like people. All modern translations of it portray it as this as well.
>>543475249HERE IS FLYNN SAYING THAT TANGLE HAS NO IDEA WHAT HUMANS ARE!https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxcebU67EXyuBrgrvzBkFqlo6TiwbIj_N2?si=evanstanleydoesnotcareforsonic
>>543475957I can smell RandomFox in that link.
>>543474792The stuff with Tangle not knowing humans was when Two Worlds was still a thing.
>>543476096>>543466558Ahem
>>543469341Chaclon Chao is always kino.
>>543474702>This is why satamsissies and archiecucks need to be chased offThey want humans, the only ones who extremely scared of humans are iansissies and idwcucks
