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>mfw console fag has a screaming child in the background

Why do they do this? What the fuck is the point of plugging in a mic when you aren't communicating? Why are their tv's always so loud you can hear the game? Console players should be banned with no refund.

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PTS is likely going to give you access to a lot of these and the next batch of Heroic weapons.

>0 prestige, level 1 Tactical in my Substantial
What possesses someone to do this?

>>543735443
Ahhh, playing with a Snoy player. Sensational experience.
They have their mics on by default in their joysticks and are unable to turn them off, unsurprisingly.

Play blood angels

>>543735043
Did they ever mention what the "Battle-Barge expansion" was gonna be or there's no news yet?

>>543736851
my hope is that it's a place where you can pick the class and loadouts of the two bots, but I know they aren't cool enough to do that

>>543736851
Everybody's hopes are that the PvP area nobody uses gets converted into a test area.

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>>543736851
Yeah, there was even a post with an idea on their forums that got immediately greenlit. Expect something like pic related for that update

>>543736326
No I prefer the Sons of Dorn

>>543737330
>hello, I have an idea, what if you added everything a mod I've recently played with does to the base game
>9001 upvotes, 1 downvote (from the mod's author)
>saber: oh yeah, what a cool and innovative idea! we're totally doing that!
why are people like this. why don't you include 12 people lobbies from astartes instead, you faggots.

>>543735443
>join a lobby
>can hear a dog barking, baby crying, and people arguing in the background of one player
>one dude using his kinect to communicate so his voice is super far away and you get earraped by the echo from his gameplay
>xXW33dT0k3rXx taking huge bong rips
>children screaming and shouting slurs you didnt even know existed
>Indian man arguing with a black guy "bloody bitch bastard nigger" and the black dude going apeshit
>hear a dude go "gobble gobble" like a turkey amidst the chaos
>russians blasting staticky, low sound quality eurobeat over the mic while having 500 ping
Online gaming was definitely one of the things of all time.

>>543737793
Because 1) that's not possible. The game's performance prioritizes consoles first. 12 person lobbies with x5 larger waves isn't feasible on PS5 or XSX. And 2) it's comically easy and boring.

>>543732092
Thanks. Is there a resource or guide somewhere that has all the optimal perks for guns and classes?

>>543739094
I'd recommend following First Tour Guardsman on Youtube. Most of his guides are pretty optimal, and he solos Absolute consistently so there's grounding to what he says.

>>543739295
I see, I see. Thanks battle-brother.

Why do people love running the fuck away during the bridge section of reliquary?

>>543739893
because before the nerf it was the place where 90% of wipes happened. if you didn't luck out with an ammo crate there usually wasn't enough ammo to kill all the enemies thrown at you.

Once again, all Saber needs to do is double bolt weapon damage and halve their ammo. It might make the heavy bolter feel a little awkward but it currently has a bottomless mag anyway, somehow many hundreds of bolts fit into that single drum.

>>543740518
I think we do need a damage buff for bolt weapons but I think we should have an ammo increase like that one stratagem modifier. Ammo management in this game feels less difficulty and more tedium or another plate to spin with how spongy everything is.

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I've come back to the game after like a year, didn't realize they added prestige stuff. What's the quickest way to grind and level up as fast as possible. I don't mind cheating or doing the literal most unfun way to grind, leveling up is painful and I just want to skip through it so I can actually play the game asap

>>543741892
inferno, but you keep your weapon level which is the most important thing really, also they get faster each time

>>543741892
If you want to skip all the grind, then the fastest way is to use cheat engine with a bypass so that EAC doesn't pick up on sniffing around memory.

How many thousands of shots would it take a heavy to kill a carnifex on his own shooting it in the body with a heavy bolter?

>>543741892
If you don't have the weapon colors from Siege, just loop 10 waves of that so you get the 3 greens to convert into a purple or for currency

>>543741892
remember how it used to be a faux pas to play above average without a team perk? forget all that. always play on the highest threat level you're comfortable with, regardless of your current class level. I usually started with 1-2 ruthless runs just to get some perks, then did most runs in lethal, then last 2 levels in absolute. Also you can post codes.

>>543742476
Doesn't this put you into modded mode and rolls you back the moment you remove the EAC bypass

>>543741892
Get max level weapons, run inferno or decapitation on the highest difficulty you can stand
If you're grinding for armory data then you go to siege mode for the first five rounds

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>>543735769
>a bunch of helmets indistinguishable to everyone who isn't a warhammer nerd

modders could make this shit in a week, probably less

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>>543743562
>a bunch of helmets indistinguishable to everyone who isn't a warhammer nerd

>>543743026
No, as long as you replace original files with the bypass and modded executable. All the values will stay as you modded them even after you switch back to original unmodded game files.

>>543743841
Explain? AFAIK, the only methods are redirecting through the .ini file to skip launching EAC, and replacing the EAC launch executable with the bypass.

wtf even is power stance with the axe

sword you can just toggle it on and off but it seems like you only have power stance when attacking with the axe or something

>>543744104
You parry, and the flourish stance is the power stance. It's pretty obvious.

>>543744104
When you parry an attack (not block) your character will twirl his weapon before posing for the camera. That's it. If you use your follow-up wave attack then you move out of power stance and lose any of the special bonuses to gunstrikes (unless you have perfect timing, if that still works).

>>543741892
hard siege to wave 5 over and over again

>>543743841
NTA, but I'd also like to know the method

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>>543744313
this is fucking retarded. hello.

>>543744052
I think what you describe is still viable, albeit a bit outdated. These days you just replace EAC and game's exe and that's it. Funnily enough this speeds up process of starting the game because EAC doesn't need to run.

Long story short, every value you edit (i.e. requisition points) will not revert when you change modded files back to originals, because the values themselves are not server-sided. So if you change your accolades to 4000, for instance, and the cap is 2000, they won't drop to the capped value after restarting the game using regular files, however if you play any op and get rewarded with req points *then* you'll see the value drop to its cap, since their status is "refreshed".

Basically, you could, in theory, have 20k accolades and technically never have to play stratagems again. With that in mind if you spend, let's say, 500 points, this would result in 19 500 accolades on your side. And so on. This is the case with armory points and the new blue doritos (I keep forgetting what they're called). Fun fact: Datavault points don't seem to have any cap to them.

>>543746725
>Doesn't understand how a weapon works
>Blames the weapon

>>543746725
Yes but its now actually kind of solid since they unfucked the numbers. Parry, backstep-swing, gunstrike, grapple is a combo that works even on absolute (but not on hard strats without extra fire) for a guaranteed kill if you've got the perks for it all

>>543747114
Interesting. Is your method
>Launch game with bypass
>Edit values
>Update values
>Relaunch the game vanilla
or does that also roll back the values?

>>543744313
>relying on reactive dogshit

>>543747737
>Reactionlet

>>543747882
>doomed to mediocrity unless something is attacking you

>>543748417
>Something isn't attacking me
>I just shoot it
>Something attacks me
>I block twice and swing
What's the issue?

>>543748506
>>doomed to mediocrity unless something is attacking you

>>543748867
I don't know what you're talking about tbhwyf, I take actually good ranged options, like the Plasma Incinerator against Chaos, or Stalker against Nids, or the Pyreblaster if I want a free win.

>>543748967
pyreblaster is a melee weapon thoughbeit

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>>543747114
idunno if im doing something wrong but it just rolls back to previous values

Am I insane or does Naggaroth Night look better for repping Emperor's Children than Phoenician Purple

>>543751969
always test colours in an operation, the dressup station has some fucked up lighting.

>>543747726
That's the gist of it yeah. It used to be that you could play with modded files in public lobbies but Saber went and meddled with the netcode or something.
>>543750225
Are you sure you searched the right way? You need look search for [value]*8. So if it's 800 points in the game, you need to search for 6400. Then you either have to spend points or gain them in game by playing solo for CE to detect changed value and isolate the address.

>>543752598
turns out im just retarded and didnt properly apply the eac bypass

Just bought the Xenophase Blade and honestly it would have been less of a waste to buy one of the cosmetics. After using block for the past 40 or so hours of game time I'd rather rip my cock clean off my body than use a balanced weapon.

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>>543737793
If you think that's bad then boy are you in for a wake up call on Saber's approach to most basic of features. Basic to any sane person that is. Pic related was an idea to give us the option in siege to a persistent faction throughout all waves. I love the justification for turning it down. Very logical and pro-community decision.

>>543753023
i dont even know why they called it siege. it's not a siege, it's a staggered incursion

>>543753023
>out of vision
The fuck? How is adding a few at best lines of code and adding a UI toggle impossible for these monkeys? Are they high on crack constantly or something?

>>543752985
yeah, heroic plasma + bolt pistol are the only 2 worth a damn.

>>543753614
Yes but also they hate the idea of you, as a player, not suffering everything they have put into the game
You VILL fight chaos even if they're terribly designed when not having seeded spawns

>>543735769
>>543743562
Imo they should have just made a few base helmet types and let you customize them with additional decals, well same for most equipment instead of having here is this same leg but with a purity seal or symbol etc.

>>543751969
>Repping Fulgrim's faggots
Absolutely heretical.

>>543754932
I like making loyalist versions of traitor legions

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Spawn really ruined Chaos for me.I used to like fighting Chaos a lot and got called a contrarian for it. They have too many move variations compared to other majoris enemies, even after playing vs them for a while they are still the most annoying enemies for me BY FAR. Spawn should have been an extremis threat imo, on tabletop their stats are more comparable to a terminator (lover save but more health) and they have a debuff aura. Should have been the same in SM2.

>>543753726
>Yes but also they hate the idea of you, as a player, not suffering everything they have put into the game
Yeah, it checks out. I do wonder when it's going to reach a tipping point and people will start to speak out against such malice.

>>543755408
>I do wonder when
long ago. it's just you can't see it because people are being banned as soon as they voice discontent.

>>543755408
They silence the voices
But it'll probably reach a tipping point if they ever try to add some of the SP cancer into the operations like the ripper swarm bullshit

Is there a point to going beyond 25 waves on siege mode

>>543756783
masochism

>>543736162
The mic button is right there on the controller and it's built with an LED so you immediately tell if it's on or not.
They have their own mic icon in-game that shows real time mic activity.
And it's not like gaystation's mic settings are hidden under a dozen secret menus either.

The consoleniggers that don't have good mic etiquette should have the minutes it takes to learn this stuff. They'd have to be really retarded to not be able to grasp it.
Like motorcycle accident retarded.
I could see a downy wrapping their fragile mind around mic etiquette and how their own ps mic works.

Most people just don't care that much. They don't even care enough to get good enough at the co-op game they're playing to not embarrass themselves in high level content and fuck over whoever they expect to give them piggyback rides.
They feel like it's justified to expect the professionals to treat them like princesses because they're retarded enough to grind a terrible wagie job all day every day or something.
They don't have the time to get good, but they think they should still have the right to play modes and shit that require that you do and are built around you doing so.

>>543746725
It is, like 90% of the gameplay mechanics. Who the fuck thinks chp and reactive combat is a good idea in ad 2025.

>>543741892
>I don't mind cheating
kill yourself

>>543758428
Go play a turn-based game or something. It's clear you just don't like action games. Imagine bitching about the IDEA of cHP and parrying.

>>543758428
obviously combat needs to be reactive. you need to react to the enemy. ACTIVE combat is stuff like arpgs aka cookie clicker

>>543743562
Retard

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its over bros

A helldivers/battlefield ie open area pvp mode would be sick as fuck

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>>543746725
its okay. block is still mandatory for melee weapons though

I have never used block and never will

>>543765314
why did you post a video where you don't have a block weapon then?

>>543765582
to show the unique move

>>543765638
k thanks, i was confused.

>>543761684
>>543761382
I cleared everything on absolute, I dont need some retarded saber simp telling me what games to play. It's not a good action game, the mechanics are clunky and outdated. I keep returning now and then because I love the setting and the visuals and playing dress up with my marines, but I dont feel the need to blindly defend the obvious issues it has.

wasn't pts supposed to start today? can someone post screenshots from the new op? how is the tyranid prime fight?

>>543765783
>Who the fuck thinks chp and reactive combat is a good idea in ad 2025.
Anon, every good action game is reaction based. This is why your argument is fucking retarded. If there's no reacting to anything, the enemy isn't doing anything. Dodging and parrying have been staples of the action game genre for decades. Devil May Cry has typical dodging via Trickster and parrying via Royal Guard, Ninja Gaiden Black has dodging, blocking and abusing Ninpo i-frames. Souls games have parrying, blocking and dodging. All of these mechanics exist on the basis of reaction to enemy attacks. They don't pre-warn you two weeks before the attack happens and then you punch in the response long before it happens...

>>543765783
its not about simping for saber, saber fucking blows, its simping for action games in general. every action game is reactive.

>>543766221
I get what that anon means though, or at least I have similar feelings in that regard, maybe he doesn't mean this.
In SM2 it does feel like you're just waiting for perfect parries, dodges and block most of the time since the damage you deal is extremely underwhelming.
You never feel like you're taking on a mob of elites, it feels like you're trying to survive it, if that makes sense.

>>543767437
>You never feel like you're taking on a mob of elites, it feels like you're trying to survive it, if that makes sense.
Considering the lore and the stats, yeah that's kinda what you should be doing. Maybe damage numbers could be tweaked a little, but you should always be on the backfoot when surrounded.

>>543765889
>wasn't pts supposed to start today?
No, tomorrow.

>>543764819
This was debunked as being a proto-Sister of Battle by the former Head of Intellectual Property of GW.

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Well /sm2g/? What's your favorite map and why?

>>543770936
I want a mission on Kadaku that isn't saturated as fuck, both literally in universe by Tyranid spores and technically by the color like in Termination.
Why don't we get a mission to rescue Titus on his Deathwatch mission from the prologue?

I know we got the ship mission coming up, what were the other datamined ones?

>>543770936
Fall of Atreus would be perfect if not for how miserable it is to fight Tzeentch niggas

>>543764819
It doesn't even call them space marines in the material referenced.

>>543770936
decapitation because of the bridge scene

>>543764819
I want them to do female space marines
I want to witness the total collapse of GW as a result.

>>543771186
It probably wasn't the operations squads that saved titus.

Really wish I could put a hood on bulwark champion helmet

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Sniper and Vanguard are fucking useless.

Worst meme in this game is having to play roll slop against devourers and spore mines

>>543773536
>remove heavy's flame thrower and plasma
>remove bulwark's power fist and aoe dmg on block
>remove tact's flamer thrower and plasma
>remove assault's power fist

now all classes are balanced

>>543775152
>make the other classes suck so my class doesn't suck

>>543775936
if they made all bolt weapons deal aoe damage in 10m to match heavy's plasma the game would be boring for all classes. its better to nerf the boring classes than to buff the fun classes, otherwise it would be impossible to balance the enemies

>>543776624
What a retarded take

>>543775152
>remove
>remove
>remove
>remove
how about you kill yourself you fucking faggot

>>543780469
>>543781214
you can still play ruthless when the op stuff is removed

>>543781812
>the op stuff
awaiting your weekly hard strat run with autoboltrifle tac

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>>543772096

>>543781812
Bait used to be believable back then

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I want the plasma pistol on vanguard.

>>543771468
>nonsensical reasons for traveling the path you take
>insanely long intro discussion cutscene meaning it always gets skipped
>mid-mission dialogue so long that it will get interrupted halfway unless you deliberately wait for half a minute before proceeding through the next door set
Worst mission bar none, it disrupts the vibes

>>543784549
>Fight alongside a Dreadnought
>Fun payload objective at the end with a cool ending
>Minimal gene-seed and armory data locations
>Open map but not too open
Idunno I just like it

>>543765314
>block is still mandatory
lol no it isn't

>>543782453
>be Emprah
>be master geneticist far beyond what science could conjure until many millennia later when humanity reached their peak
>can only make male supersoldiers, not female
Also all the Alpha+ psykers are male, strongest female psyker is a Beta- which is basically a trainee Spess Mehreen Librarian.

>>543785398
It's not a fun payload objective though
Maybe if you could turn the tracks both directions

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>>543770936
Ballistic Engine/Exfiltration>Decapitation>Termination>Inferno>Vox Liberatis>Reliquary>Fall Of Atreus>Obelisk>Vortex
I have enough of Tson missions, but admittedly we are due one on Kadaku just for the sake of it. Last one try.

Also that newest mission sounds like the coolest shit ever from that transcription
>Few marine squads send to recover a ship
>They keep going missing and dying until only your team remains
>Eventually the Command goes fuck it, blow it up instead
>You have to fight against two bosses at this same time
>Then have to escape in time when ship is in self destruct mode
>If you don't manage to escape, mission apparently counts as a success, but ending dialogue changes to Captain Acheran paying respect to your sacrifice
KINO
Legit sounds like the best mission in game so far.

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>>543786052
But I like payload objectives in games. It tickles a part of my brain to see payload objectives move

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>>543786206
>two bosses at the same time
Oh boy I can't wait until i get focused with TWO 15 second long flail combos that are straight out of elden ring's school of garbage boss design

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>>543785798
It's not that he couldn't it's that he didn't. Malcador even brings up the idea of female Primarchs and Big E laughs him off (because he couldn't see the vision). It WAS possible, but he decided to leave it to men. Probably because he didn't want humanity being replaced with super soldiers.... for some reason. I don't see the drawback. It's not like Astartes are less human. In fact, when raised normally, they act like regular people sans a sex drives, which I'm pretty sure is just a consequence of the psycho indoctrination.

>>543787874
The emperor wanted to shepherd humanity, ensuring its survival and allowing it to evolve. He did not want to supplant it with transhuman ubermensch.
He was anti-transhuman in terms of society, he was also a pragmatist and just used transhumanism as a weapon because he considered it the only way to achieve his goal, it was a tool. The space marines, like the thunder warriors, were not supposed to continue to exist after he felt the future of humanity was secured.
Space marines aren't just less human, they aren't human in the first place. It's taking a human and physically turning him into an inhuman living weapon.

>>543785798
Why would you use as a base for your supersoldier a being that is inherently inferior in every single physical and mental task?

>>543793289
muh dick

>>543793941
nta I believe the question was "why" not "what", but I might not be all there after whole day of work.

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>>543786206
Yeah, it looks pretty cool. But it also shows that 2nd company is almost completely decimated. Titus will be getting back his captaincy in SM3. No way can Acheran keep his station after all of that.

>>543794387
Did the anon who posted this ever come back with the other missions dialogue trees?

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>>543794387
Damn, I forgot to post the version with objectives for the new op. Next time. Here they are anyway

>>543786206
Acheron has something to say when
>You don't detonate the promethium in Inferno
>You let the train explode in Ballistic Engine

>>543794632
Shit, if you were asking about Ballistic Engine Dialogue. It slipped my mind completely. Sorry about that brother, I can look into it tomorrow. I should be able to come back with something.

>>543794161
>why
muh dick
>what
muh dick

>>543794951
Wait you can do this?
Train can explode?
What happens if you don't detonate promethium?
What happens if you don't blow a bridge in Decapitation?

>>543794387
Acheran gets "promoted" to Girlyman's retinue
Titus gets 2nd company captain back
If Sicarius ever returns prior then he also gets promoted to Girlyman's minions

Girlyman runs three Ultrasmurf Chapters anyway, his retinue is chapter level strength with Ultrasmurfs he's taken and successors; Calgar's regular Smurf chapter and another reserve Smurf chapter stationed in Macragge and nearby homesystems

1000 Space Marines is a loose thing in the Indomitus Era

>>543794632
>>543795056
Ok, I got the files. I'll post it in 2-3 hours. Any other op requests?

>>543796575
>If Sicarius ever returns
Pretty sure he's already back and in the retinue as the captain of those victrix guard fellas

>>543795056
>>543797505
Much appreciated.

>>543797505
Vortex please
>>543796252
The train can explode if the tyranids swarm it and you let the timer run out.
If you don't detonate the promethium than Acheron will chime in twice before giving you a minute to detonate. You get unique fail dialogue after. You can also fail in Inferno if you let a generator blow up.

Nothing happens for Decapitation. You just get an endless swarm of hormagaunts while your squad members chime in about the bomb not being pushed.

You also get unique dialogue if you miss the Hierophant with the lascannons

>>543798292
>Vortex please
Consider it done.

>>543798595
Could you grab Decapitation and Reliquary if it's not too much? I think Assault's line for killing the Heldrake in the final cinematic is fucked.

>>543798868
I'll get all of them actually and try nicely format each class for better visibility.

14 hours until I get to read the clusterfuck that is the upcoming patch notes

>>543789570
I would argue that Space Marines are HYPER human. They have all of the qualities of a regular person but to an extreme degree. Extreme loyalty, extreme hatred, extreme strength and speed, extreme depths of depravity, extreme nobility. Read the 30k novels and they seem like regular dudes for the very most part. The Emperor wanted to shepherd humanity into it's full potential psychically, and if Marines are anything to go by, they are a great leap ahead towards that potential that we can see in the Eldar and the Emperor. As things stand now, and I hate to sound like an Eldar when I say this, humans are far too short lived to have a long view like the Emperor. If anything, turning humanity into Astartes would have been the best option as it would allow for a greater understanding of the big picture to be held by the common folk. Humans lead short, brutal lives, and by the time they gain any sort of wisdom, they're on the way out.

Anyone here plays SM2 on the Steam Deck? How does it perform?

just ordered a deck

>>543755351
Chaos spawn contrast so hardly against every other enemy in the game it feels like a dev just really liked them or something. Most other majoris feel like they have a few, easily identifiable attacks, and then there's the spawn that feel like they have an entire dark souls boss moveset. And they also have absurd spawnrates for some reason so 10+ of them spawn to deathball gank you.

Almost all of my failed chaos missions are exclusively due to massive swarms of these guys spawning. When one enemy makes up 90% of the challenge of a faction it's probably time to take another look at it.

>>543752985
You should buy the heroic chainsword too, it is so atrociously slow that it deals less damage overall than the fencing relic chainsword because the latter swings twice as fast

>>543802297
They are a pretty cool enemy.
People need to separate lethal and above from ruthless and bellow in terms of how they rate the game. The game is definitely balanced for ruthless for an enjoyable, casual experience and it isn't meant to be a sweat game.
Lethal (I'd give this one a maybe), absolute and hard are definitely just difficulties where the game's cranked to the max and everything shits on you. The game's mechanics break down entirely at this point.
And I say this as someone that can (mostly) clear the content. But I definitely don't play it when all I wanna do is chill and kill some space bugs

>>543805521
After Strategems, I think Absolute is pretty easy.

After prestiging all classes I’ve learned none of them are bad it’s just ranged terminators are the most bullshit enemy in the game

>>543806312
It really isn't. And that doesn't invalidate that the game breaks down at the higher difficulties
I don't think the combat was made for having situations like terminus spawns + 2 extremis for example.
It's doable, but it puts a "strain" on the game's mechanics they weren't meant for.

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>after 12+ months of nothing, the highly requested customization overhaul could actually be happening next month
Hopes?
Expectations?

Is anyone up for attempting the Weekly Hard?
Code: WSNWK

>>543807156
It's going to be incredibly basic and not what people imagine.

>>543807192
I'm up for it, though I still crash a lot when joining lobbies or playing siege mode.
mostly fine when joining randos.

>>543807192
>WSNWK
Expired brother.

>>543807968
New code: 7FQWP

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>>543807156
I know I've posted this ad nauseum at this point, but if it's something like pic related I'd be satisfied. It probably won't be sadly. We're talking about Saber, who probably expect a praise for merely announcing they are going to do (bare minimum of) work on an "overhaul".

>>543807156
I expect nothing, modders did in a few weeks what those retards at saber will never be able or willing to do

>>543807156
I doubt it's anything big
Actually, it's probably meme face customization which makes this a completely worthless feature since I won't go without a helmet anyway
Unless it enables class stacking. Then it's big, but not for customization reasons

Do anons have any chapters they particularly like finding in the wild? Blood ravens and imperial fist players always seem like bros.

>>543807156
Something between what we have and Astartes.

>>543808956
Ran into a Night Lord bulwark during a start a couple days ago. I refused to help him do anything because Heresy is wrong.

>>543809445
few things in this world are more pathetic than larpers

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>>543808956
>blood ravens
Sure it's always funny i also love stumbling upon...
>and imperial fist players

This weekly is a hell of a time.
So much shit that just one shots you.

>>543808956
I always like it when I run into Loyalist World Eaters.

>>543810230
I got distracted a hormagaunt's leaping attack did 80% of my life.
Also, killing barbed strangler warriors became priority right below Devourers. Just having the former shit out a field of stranglethorns that can kill you in like 4 procs is maddening.

>>543808264
Crashed brother.

>>543810202
>t. Filthy heretic traitor

>>543810202
Spoken like a true Night Lord sympathizer.

>>543810863
It's okay. This shit is impossible. You're literally just hoping you get good spawns.

>>543810230
>dont get hit by neuro bubble-wave because i´m out of its range
>fight on the same spot, literally do not move
>second wave hits me, stuns, something else grazes me and i´m dead
love it
gotta say it. those mods are not fun. this on top with the damagereduction and more damage dealt the enemies have is just too much bullshit to be enjoyable. i got it, i felt nothing on completion. i dont even have stuff left i want to buy.

>>543810465
thats not what proc means

>>543812484
Damage ticks or instances then.

I can't stand trying to make a Night Lords marine without my fucking bat wing.

>>543813124
then dont? some stuff just does not work with the customization.

>>543766221
>every good action game is reaction based
Every good action game has a reasonable balance between reaction and proactivity. SM2, at least as far as melee combat goes, tips the scales way too far in the former. Adrenaline surge and gun strikes being as good as they are encourage passivity as you wait for something to attack you, maybe shooting the enemy a few times to bait it out if you know what you're doing. The melee mechanics as they are don't encourage you to be proactive, which doesn't really suit the attitude or power fantasy of a Space Marine as far as I'm concerned.

>drop banner to try and tank through the zoanthrope spam and revive team mate
>eat shit instantly
No, absolute fucking fuck this week. When does it rotate out?

>>543814442
>trying to tank through anything with those modifiers
kek

There's something I don't get about 40k: why did pretty much all of the astartes under the traitor primarchs follow them? I get Word Bearers because zealots gonna zealot, but the rest I don't understand. Especially World Eaters since it seems like they all hated Angron.

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I can't fucking believe it. The nightmare is over. The torment has ended. Somehow, these 2 had brought the Neurothrope after the fork in the road down to like half hp. We somehow cleaned it up, and, though we kept dying and going down, we were able to get to the elevator room. However, they got ripped to pieces, and it was just me from the start of the room until the last door. I fought like a daemon possessed at the bottom of the stairs and clutched it. I couldn't believe we were at the final area. Then we mopped up like usual and extracted.

Praise the Omnissiah.

Saber, suck my fucking dick.

>>543814956
That's not true for ANY of the traitor legions, not even the Word Bearers, who's loyalty to their Primarch bordered on mind control. They preemptively killed their loyalist elements at Istvaan III, know as the Istavaan Atrocity, where they bombed the planet 3 or 4 separate times to finish the job, and even then, Rylanor remained to bomb it a 4th or 5th time millenia later. The traitor legions had also been weeding out loyalists by sending them on suicide missions or leaving them without aid during battle to further thin their ranks.

>>543807156
>Hopes
- being able to individually choose or turn off clothes, ropes, pouches, grenades, purity seals, forehead skulls etc.
- colorable ropes, clothes and mohawks
- tacticus, gravis and phobos versions of every item where it makes sense
- shield and jetpacks aside all the customization is shared between Tactical, Bulwark and Assault. All the customization is shared between Vanguard and Sniper
- mirror versions of all the shoulder pads and all the belt hanging items
- customizable decal slot on the forehead of every helmet, and on the power pack as well
- better color customization
- fixing all the coloring issues that happen because of not desaturating the diffuse maps properly
- being able to use customization items from the campaign such as the Deathwatch arm or Gadriel's loincloth thing and backpack decor

>Expectations
None of the above, just more disappointing, low effort work like the champion skin separation they did for 10.0 and some meme shit like putting capes and iron halos on every class.

>>543814956
Primarchs have low level psychic powers that enforceds their will on others, intentional or not. Astartes under this primarch are more susceptible.

Horus had the strongest psychic force.

>>543814956
Nothing about 40k really makes sense when you try to think about it rationally. It's just silly.
Most marines simply love their primarch like you wouldn't imagine. They'd sacrifice their life in a heartbeat to make the primarch have a happy day. Angron's boys literally volunteered to have brain surgeries done on them, and these surgeries had a fucking 100% mortality rate. Then they worked the kinks out and the surgeries started succeeding. What is success? They become retards who just think about nothing but rip and tear. Yeah, they did all that willingly just because their primarch thought it would be fun.

>>543814956
The traitor legions were the legions with the closest ties to the Sons of Horus (usually) or the primarch was close to Horus. There was a twofold vector through which chaos corrupted the legions and primarchs. The brotherly bonds of the primarchs, but also the warrior lodges of the legions. The legions that got away from this were usually the legions that had the most inoculation from said vectors. Either because their primarchs weren't close to Horus, or they were incompatible or rejected the warrior lodges.
For example the Dark Angels were basically untainted by Horus' efforts due to the fact Lion wasn't close (and in fact disliked) Horus, and their own crazy esoteric orders were counter to the lodges. They did have their own internal rebellion but it was unrelated (but all rebellions end up as chaos rebellions, though that's a failure of the setting)
Sanguinus was close to Horus but not was too good to turn traitor, while the Blood Angels were secretive due to having to hide the red thirst, thus again inoculated against the lodges.
But even with all this, the only legion that by the time of the heresy was full chaos was the Word Bearers and that's because they'd already done their own internal purges. All traitor legions had loyalist elements. Heck the legions purged at Ishtvan III had a significant one even. I think the biggest loyalist elements in traitor legions were Death Guard, World Eaters and Emp's Children.

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>>543794951
Alrighty, here's Ballistic Engine strings. I replaced in-engine names for classes with their in-game UI versions and added colors to each class so that it, hopefully, reads better.

I'll post other requested ones in a moment

>>543819465
meant for >>543794632

What grindable rewards do you think they should add to the game? Apart from stratagem stuff, something new

>>543820905
Roboute Guilliman's ancient foreskin as a belt.

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>>543798292
Here's Vortex.

Space Wolves sound incredibly fucking lame.

>>543820905
The game has extreme amounts of grind as it is. It's fucking ridiculous for a new player. Just enjoy what's there. Can't you do that without a carrot constantly dangling in front of your face?

>>543820905
Grind? nothing they should add the full mk 8 errant set from the prologue

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Here's my first tryhard attempt at using the Relic Plasma on Heavy. This was done on Ruthless. Is this a good showing with it? I tried to avoid directly hitting majoris to capitalize on the splash damage.

>>543821721
Sorry, I meant Heroic tier.

How could they add a Chaplain? It seems like it would overlap a lot with Bulwark

>>543822018
Make him buff damage and resistances. Make him a moving banner that slowly regens health through his ult which would just be different sermons.

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>>543798868
Decapitation.

>bringing sniper into this week's hard stratagem
Why even bother loading in?

It's really hard to rep any chapter besides Ultramarines when the characters talk about being sons of Guilliman and and Ultramar during missions

>>543823095
>he was level 6
>no prestige
What is wrong with people.

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>>543798868
And finally Reliquary.

I really don't get the hate for Primaris Marines

>>543823797
They're just a useless ass pull edition to the lore. Literally made just to sell more models.

>>543823797
Mostly just superfluous to the lore and a cynical cash grab in real life

lethal, absolute, hard siege and hard strategems need a max level lock

tired of these useless ass niggers chewing stims then immediately dying

>>543823797
Practically they're kind of a way to not utterly invalidate old marines while selling true scale
But the lore is contrived, the cash grab is obvious and the armors kinda suck

>>543823797
It was understandable why people were mad when they came out.

>Firstborns couldn't become Primaris, threatened to cull fan favorite characters the longer Primaris went on at the time
>Had none of the gene-seed flaws of Firstborns, which was 50% of what made each Chapter unique

Both of these have since been adjusted with the Rubicon surgery and the gene-seed flaws returning in fresh Primaris recruits. At this point, the hatred for Primaris is purely based on aestheticism.

>>543824117
Indeed. Was in a strat the other night with a fucking Heavy that full died 11 fucking times and had no perks.

>>543824117
i was doing lethal at level 1 prestige 1 and it wasnt a problem

>>543814956
I think this anon put it best >>543815648 it wasn't like they decided to go traitor on the spot, there were actually a lot of loyalists still with the traitor legions but most of them, even ones suspected of being slightly loyalist or just well-adjusted not-psychopaths, were being sent on suicide missions even before Isstvan happened. In the Word Bearers case Lorgar waited until most of the reasonable Imperial Herald old guard died off before renaming the chapter to the Word Bearers, which would from the ground-up consist almost exclusively of fanatics.

Basically all the traitor chapters prepped for their open heresy by finding ways to kill off everyone they thought would be a problem. This culiminated at Isstvan where they finally just dumped everyone left presumed to be even slightly loyalist before bombing the entire planet, but even afterwards there were still some who realized the insanity of what they were doing like the anchorite.

>>543823231
Space Marine 3 will fix it

>load into the hard stratagem
>at the point where the geneseed spawns first, surrounded immediately and take chip damage for half my health
>continue on, neuro spawns
>the two guys (heavy and vanguard) manage to take it out while I'm behind in the little clearly with 10 majoris of various ranged types dodging brambles
>they both die from the midway spawn of extremis, which brings me back and allows me to finish off the group
>two more guys spawn before the guard camp, assault and another vanguard
>right after the guard camp area, Carnifex spawns
>Vanguard goes down
>proceed to solo the fucking carnifex from half health, finish off a ravener and a zoanthrope, and then a lictor
>both terminus have now been cleared, continue on to finish the mission past that
That fucking Carnifex Jesus fuck.
Sabaton gives me inhuman plot armor somehow. I do shit I'd never be able to do otherwise.

>>543821278
they are. worst fucking legion by far.
shit theme, shit memes, furries, absolute retards for how they see psykers, degenerate mutants and posers.
the whole "the emperors executioners" thing also seems really unearned.

>>543821278
It varies story to story and character to character.
Space vikings can be insanely cool as a concept. But they lean too into "MUH WOLVES" sometimes.

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What the actual fuck is with the spawns in this game? I tried doing a solo Absolute and I was fighting through Hell. Get to the courtyard and low and behold, a Helbrute spawns. I'm desperately chaining executes on Majoris, flowing from Meatball to Meatball, Rubric to Rubric, and eventually get forced back all the way to the elevator with the Helbrute and a Terminator pursuing. I was able to clap them both, and me and the bots make our way back down the path. As I'm searching for Stims, a Terminator spawns in my face. Not through a portal, it just pops into existence along with some other Majoris and Minoris harassing. I make a perfect dodge despite the pop in, and as I'm performing the gun strike, it rips with it's storm bolter and kills me.....

Are we dead ass with this bullshit?

>>543814956
Loyalty is genecoded, an Astartes will almost always follow their Primarch no matter how retarded they can be

That's why loyalists from Traitor legions are awesome, simply because they've defied their physiology and mental reconditioning to remain loyal to the Imperium

If Girlyman went traitor, most of his Ultrasmurfs would follow him blindly

The Iron Losers having the most loyalists is simply because they hated Perturabo for whatever reason

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>>543819465
>>543821263
>>543822910
>>543823474
Blessed. Thank you, brother

>>543827813
and into
>muh drunk
>muh retard that charges into obvious trap
>muh we are stronk despite not really having that much of a track record
>muh psykers are bad our psykers are using runestuff for real its not psykery at all its runes bro (and they actually believe it)
also their wolf wolverine mutants look absolutely retarded. everything about the space wolves fucking sucks.

>>543822910
That is a shitton of unused dialogue in that HT fight.

>>543829390
>>543822910
Looks like HT was supposed to have more phases. Future implementation? Toxin Sacs and Adrenal Gland modifiers? Bio-plasma?

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>>543829051
Don't mention it. Glad you can make use of it. I'm going to post the rest of the ops tomorrow.

>>543828987
Most traitor legions had a significant number of
>Iron Losers
Dornfag detected.

>>543828987
>because they hated Perturabo for whatever reason
Truly a mystery *gets decimated*

>>543810230
>fail three attempts the other night with a fairly competent team
>the closest we got was right at the end when a Carnifex and a shitload of warriors spawned in and raped us with ranged damage
>last night get it on my first attempt with some Heavy
>didn't even have a third until a Vanguard joined when we reached the generator room so we had a dopey Bulwark bot for a good chunk of the level
>terminus spawns were a Carnifex after the IG camp and a Neurothrope before the drop down into the final area which is probably as good as it gets
It's literally just luck.

>>543823797
They look like shit compared to real space marines and it's not just the helm.

>>543829593
Probably an RNG pick between them all for the second phase
Either they didn't want to put in the work of actually building the other phases or their retards couldn't beat it

>>543814956
emperors children, death guard and lunar wolves purged their loyalists on istvaan.
world eaters had a prior butchers-nails related purge, then also purged the remaining loyalists on istvaan.
pretty much all iron warriors that where not in perturabos area of space stayed loyal there is a theory i like that the iron warriors probably would have revolted against perty if he would have stayed loyal
the night lords had no fucking choice, its legit a plothole that they where even called in to the first fight against the heretics, since they where already renegades at that point.
thousands sons simply got tzeench´d and had no real choice afterwards.
the alpha legion can´t really get covered here because no one knows what the fuck they where doing, not even the alpha legion.

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why can't i change the cloth's color???

>>543831683
>there is a theory i like that the iron warriors probably would have revolted against perty if he would have stayed loyal
I mean they already sort of rebelled as it is.

>>543822910
>Decimus calls himself and the others bioweapons
a realist

>>543831708
Certain armors don't let you
Choose another armor, change the colour to what you want, then change it back to the armor you want.

>>543831942
they had internal fighting at the burning of olympia, but ultimately bonded over their combined hatred of the f*sts.
if the heresy did not happen they probably would have murked peter turbo.

>>543831151
Emprah didn't care when they were getting decimated and/or punished, the fact that a whole lot of them stayed loyal was simply to spite their shitty Primarch

There's also a bunch of Iron Losers who initially went traitor then turned their guns against their Alpha Legion and Black Legion comrades simply because those two slighted or wronged them

>>543831683
EC had a few loyalists along with the DG, they literally have their own book where they escaped with most becoming Knights Errant; the EC loyalists were snipers and ace pilots

World Eaters rebelled quickly but got mogged by Angron, none of them were smart enough to physically defect to the Imperium

Iron Losers had a ton of loyalists simply because they were left off planet after the siege and were never recalled again until the main Iron Loser force went traitor

Night Lords didn't have that many loyalists but a handful of them sneaked in with the DG and EC

TSons all became Rubric Marines until James Workshop shat out new lore about a specific seer cult who foresaw the Horus Heresy, the burning of Prospero and said seer cult warning Magnus and then leaving; half the fleet got lost in the warp and reappeared during the Scouring and the other half jettisoned themselves into Terra and then surrendered; there's also a group of loyalists who fought alongside the Imperial Fists and were absorbed immediately. The newest Scouring book strongly hints at these loyalists as the progenitors of the popular magpies with Dorn and Girlyman angrily discussing the fate of this splinter fleet

There's one Word Bearer loyalist and he only survived after seeing the "truth" and surrendered to Girlyman, punishing himself until he was interred into a Dreadnought

AL had no defectors but in their HH book some of them purposedly attacked the Imperial Palace's weak points so that the defenders could reinforce it and gave false info to some traitor units who ended getting mowed down and/or cleaved by the defenders

Primaris are cool

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>>543837873
Fuck you.

>>543810230
>Sniper with Las Fusil to deal with Neurothropes and Zoanthropes, a properly built one will oneshot Zoanthropes and will damage Neurothropes hard enough they pose little threat
>Heavy with heavy bolter and Encompassing Aegis to deal with little shits. Heroic Heavy Plasma has shit ammo economy and you're throwing the game if you're carrying the normal Heavy Plasma or Pyrecannon. Multimelta is suboptimal with these modifiers and useless against Zoanthropes and Neurothropes
>last pick can be either Tactical or Bulwark; Assault and Vanguard are useless for this week. Tactical simply needs to spam auspex and ensure a continuous grenade supply and Bulwark shieldniggers are practically throwing the game and should respec to a typical AoE shock spam healbanner Bulwark. Shieldnigger Bulwarks are only useful for Carnifex spawns and useless for the rest of the map.

>>543810230
Made me wish you could just restart the mission mid mission. Would've saved a lot of time. Every time a Carnifex would spawn early on, I'd have reset. I think the only thing that saved my winning run was that we were somehow able to deal with an early Neurothrope spawn which I guess made the director grant us mercy.

>>543833490
>The newest Scouring book strongly hints at these loyalists as the progenitors of the popular magpies with Dorn and Girlyman angrily discussing the fate of this splinter fleet
I still find it funny that the magpies spawned so much kerfuffle for being originally a throwaway chapter with some vague lore and a deep, dark secret.

>>543839587
It's on /tg/ weeks ago, they're bickering over everything from Guilliman's late arrival to the Emperor's final orders and then a Thousand Sons fleet shows up near Mars constantly radioing to Terran command that they're friendly.

The loyalist Thousand Sons who fought in the palace can't tell if they're defectors or traitors so these ships got boarded by Dark Angels and Custodes. Not much is heard from them since their bickering switched to another topic but they weren't considered traitors and had no flesh change.

>>543839120
>Heroic Heavy Plasma has shit ammo economy and you're throwing the game if you're carrying the normal Heavy Plasma or Pyrecannon.
Pyrecannon is insane on this hard though. It does massive damage due to the modifier for range damage.
>Bulwark shieldniggers are practically throwing the game and should respec to a typical AoE shock spam healbanner Bulwark.
Also incorrect seeing as I cleared the game with the same build I've been running since 10.0. Which is neither shield bash nor heal banner. I do run invigorating icon but I also run aoe banner and damage boost banner, as well as the prestige perk for hyper armor banner. Then I run armor of contempt + armored advance + non finisher gunstrike armor recovery.
Though honestly I was about to switch to kill on parry + shockwave on parry had I not cleared it on the run I was in.

>>543839120
i did it with shield rush bulwark

heal banner isnt as strong as you think, 100% of 0 is still 0

>>543840634
>>543839120
Oh also, bonds of brotherhood is pretty much mandatory if you're gonna run heavy for this mission. The fact is there is no playing around death in this mission. You WILL eat shit and you WILL eat shit regularly. Being able to revive and then instantly heal a mortal wound with a medkit is fucking life saving. Under these conditions it's arguably better than vanguard's healing perk.
>>543841880
Healing banner is actually not bad because due to how the health percentages work, it's much easier to get back chp in this mission. A single charged plasma shot against a majoris will heal you to full from near death.

>>543842215
>Oh also, bonds of brotherhood is pretty much mandatory
Lol lmao

>>543842287
People that hate on bonds of brotherhood under regular circumstances are midwits
People thate hate on bonds of brotherhood for this week's hard strat are downright throwing the match and I kicked them if I can, otherwise I left.

>>543842287
>The one retard that think BoB is bad is still there
Atleast we have some regulars in the general

i beat this week as a heavy bolter guy with the less ranged damage perk
my other teammate was a stalker tactical with the ranged damage perk and we cycled through a vanguard with inner fire who got murked by the early carnifex spawn and then quit, a shieldnigger bulwark who rushed far ahead and spawned neurothrope and died before quitting and two snipers; the first one was a carbine who got murked by double biovores in the powerplant section and the final asshole joined in the elevator section and piggybacked off our hard work

>>543842841
Heavy bolter in the sense of it's usability against neuros and zoans isn't a bad choice. But assuming you're the anon from up above, you shouldn't dismiss pyrocannon as "throwing the game".
Regular heavy plasma's asking to get shit on though that much is right. No way you can do the usual "tank through and chp" that works with that build.

>>543843734
im not that guy though he's somewhat right
i default to the heavy whenever they shit out armour or hp modifiers, iron halo is too good for defense
i pick heavy bolter simply because i never run out of ammo with it, sometimes i run multimelta

>>543844000
If it's the 66% health one I default to bulwark since I don't take damage
If it's the armor, I default to vanguard or sniper.
But both at the same time was fucking insane.

>>543823797
Their lore sucks, excuse to make people replace their armies, helmet doesn't have the angry grill, bigger Batman, etc.

When does the PTS drop again normally? I can't remember whether it's usually 6am EDT or 12pm EDT.

>>543823797
Bad lore and very badly implemented.
Aesthetically they at first were very tacticool and ruined the look of the space marines as space knights. But that's gotten better with time.

It confuses me that vanguard and sniper get two armor but heavy doesn't get four.

>>543845753
Phobos is still catastrophically tacticool.
All primaris bolters are also abominations. Who fucking asked for 5 different scopes on the same gun+unusable faux-picatinny rails+weapon charms+vertical foregrips?

>>543846412
Phobos is retarded. Marines were already stealthy. Having no belly armor is dumb. Skull masks are supposed to be for Chaplains. Marines are scary enough on their own, so the idea that they need to use a skull helmet to use "terror tactics" is also retarded.

>>543840104
I mean people called it but much like others they joined the pile of "probably descended from traitor chapters" and that was that. By now there have been multiple attempts to strongly imply it for the magpies which is cool I guess but do we really need this much effort for a fairly inconsequential chapter.

DoW4 is going back to Kronus so maybe GW will entertain the idea of telling us more about the Blood Ravens' origins.

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>more ranged damage as a freshly prestiged assault than the max level heavy

>>543848397
>Marines were already stealthy
They really aren't outside of Chapters like the Raven Guard and their successors, and that's because they're borderline magically inclined to stealth thanks to daddy Corvus' nut juice.

>>543821263
thank you anon

>try to play hard vox daily
>no in it besides weaker vanguard and ignorable damage on roll
>the dumbest consoleniggers imaginable do everything in their power to fuck up runs by standing literally right next to me causing the worst collaterals possible, go down to singular majoris, let chaos termies have free reign despite having plenty of stagger options, or just sitting in the fucking battle barge with the lobby open
Holy shit i'm so tired i just wanted to play 2 missions with this easy set of dailies and they ruin it now i have to wage

>>543855550
>no downside* in

>>543854026
>play melee heavy
>assault panics and tries to preemptively ground pound every blob of enemies I beeline
unfortunately it was getting late and i absentmindedly skipped the statscreen without checking who had more damage. still was pretty funny

>>543846412
>phobos is still catastrophically tacticool
True. Exception for the phobos librarian.
That said, I think having phobos as the tacticool design is okay. The issue to me was never that we had tacticool stuff. Is that we had tacticool stuff while losing everything else.

Two handed sword when

>reach the final part of the weekly
>level 14 assault is the host
>yuroshit so has huge lag
>die to something because of the lag
If the lag wasnt so bad we wouldve won that as i was carrying super hard but on top of the lag he was a straight shitter that kept dying

>>543854295
Nah, read the books. They can pull stealth no matter the Legion/Chapter. The power packs are supposed to emit a hum that makes your teeth hurt, but that's only ever used for effect when reading from a normal human's perspective. It's not even special joints or servos, Marines were just stealthy in 30k. They're the same in 40k stories.

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What the fuck am I supposed to pick out of this garbage?

>>543859943
>he's waited until slot 3 for auxiliary reload

>>543859943
Aux reload is infinite ammo on absolute
Conviction is very nice damage reduction
Exponential force stacks very nicely with the expanded AoE you already have

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so are we getting any new weapon besides the machine cult's axe next patch?

>>543832127
got it, thanks. this is so fucking retarded

>>543860013
Does that work for Plasma? And do executions count as melee kills?
>>543860271
I see. Conviction was the next one I was thinking, but it just seems so lackluster. Maybe if it was like a 50% for 30 seconds it'd feel like a good perk.

>>543860295
The Omnissiahn axe is in patch 12, not 11
And as far as we know, there is no new weapon planned besides it for the next year

>>543860450
yes and yes
I think its about a fifth of your total ammo supply and you can get it off executions, on absolute its a reliable source of ammo gen
Exponential force is your next pick just for stomp greatness

>>543860580
huh wait, i thought it comes with the new class
damn it...

>>543860623
Alrighty then.
>>543860580
Are you fuckin' serious? Goddamn why are they so slow with everything? It can't be that hard to add new weapons to this game.

>>543860841
>>543860295
PTS will probably include new Heroic weapons that were datamined.

Am I crazy or was the Grav-gun datamined.
Does it actually exist or am I tripping?
>>543860841
New melee weapons necessitate like 11 new executions. New guns would be a lot easier to implement.

>>543860841
They're stupid and lazy and have made it that they need to make at least 1 unique execution for each majoris
Whatever workflow they have is terrible

>>543862448
>Whatever workflow they have is terrible
>we should just have generic executions because more weapons

>>543860450
>Maybe if it was like a 50% for 30 seconds it'd feel like a good perk.
This would singlehandedly turn heavy from a contender for top spot among the classes to undisputed champion. Almost permanent 50% damage reduction would be insane.

>>543860580
Damn. I want a relic blade

Aggressor when? double powerfist + wrist-mounted flamer or bolter

>>543863225
they are separate statements for a reason, fucking up the one good part of executions wouldn't fix the shitty release schedule

>>543863431
Given Saber wants us to be about as durable as the Guardsmen in game, I think it's warranted.

>>543863225
You now, I don't really care too much about the flashy executions when I'm constantly worried about what I need to kill next, or more accurately, what is probably going to kill me one frame after I do my SUPER SICK TYRANIGGER THROAT CUTTER.

Yes, I would just rather have a new weapon to play and have fun with than an animation I'll get bored of after it fucks me over for the hundredth time because it was too slow for me to do something I needed to, or too quick for me to avoid getting ass raped by a Neurothrope or Helbrute aoe.

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>>543860295
Not really. As >>543860580 said there will be the axe later on. Anything major will come with patch 12 i.e. techmarine class etc.
>>543861891
>Am I crazy or was the Grav-gun datamined
There were some strings mentioning grav-cannon in the files.

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>>543865363
And not so long ago the icons for the other heroic weapons skills were dug up as well. Not much to work with, still, here they are.

>>543865709
>power fistS
oh boy

>>543865363
I call first on the Techmarine when he comes out. You guys can try him out when I get him to 25, okay? Don't shit up the que.

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which one for slot 3 lads?

>>543866090
Yeah, that's not a typo on my part. The file really lists the weapons as:
>heroic_wpn_perk_power_fists
Which could be a mistake for sure, but in this instance I doubt it. It's seems too random.

>>543865363
so what's the best/most interesting build here?

>>543866698
Depends heavily on the power level of the shoulder gun

>>543866559
Aux.

>>543866559
Auxiliary reload or powerful shot
None of the other 3 are worthwhile
Resilience is unnecessary if you've got healing banner and doesn't help much if you don't have it, standard bearer is generally worthless, and emboldened stand loses value with each perk everyone else has that already does that (which they will have because they're best in slot usually)

>Reliquary
>Obelisk
Another 1/3 daily.

>>543867385
It's crazy how this shit is supposed to be hand picked. I bet they just threw it all into a randomizer.

>>543867138
>>543867271
picked 20% gun damage, need to kill Zoan somehow

when the perk says "killing X enemies in rapid succession", exactly how rapid it is supposed to be? what's the best way to regain ammo with this perk for heavy? stomping minoris?

>>543867893
Dailies are random.

>>543868673
Ah.

>>543866656
Double fister as a weapon would be insanely cool. Seems unlikely though, since the only class that doesn't need their hands to hold stuff is assault so bulwark couldn't equip it. Alternatively, it's available to bulwark, heavy, and tactical as well, but equipping it disables the shield/primary weapon.

>>543869269
Bulwark can already drop the shield for a thunder hammer so same principle right

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>>543869269
>>543866656
double power fists is the most retarded loadout ever
what if you need to press a button?

>>543869734
You delicately press it with your pinky.

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Has anyone read The Pale King? I just finished it and I'm a little confused on the ending. Did Mortarion make the right call? I mean, it's not like the Great Crusade didn't go around stomping the shit out of tons of otherwise peaceful worlds to force them under the dominion of the Emperor. How the Hell was Galaspar any different? Mortarion kills all of the Comptrollers and all that's left is the slave population. Would the Imperium not just come in with Administratum and Tech Priests to establish a new government along with terraforming and colonization populations to get Galaspar up and running?

Like, Mortarion even brings up Konrad, but instead of giving a good rebuttal to a great point, Horus just yells "Enough!" and that's the end of it. No motherfucker, WHAT ABOUT KONRAD?! The Emperor is perfectly fine with planets being taken in through terror. Sure, they rebelled later, but that's because the whole planet was the target of the Night Lords. Here, Mortarion would obviously be seen as a savior. I think it's kind of hinted at at the end with Digger bowing to Mortarion and calling him "Lord" that they see him as a conqueror but like..... that's LITERALLY how all of this shit goes, every single time. The Primarchs DEMAND people call them lord and bow down to them and shit, so why is it suddenly different now?

>>543869734
Smash the button.

>>543869734
smash through the door
or have your servo skull do it because you're important enough to have one permanently assigned to you

>>543869734
You have a chainfist and cut the door open. Or a new door.

Oh, I guess we don't talk about lore in this general, my bad.

>>543870978
Sorry to say I haven't read it. It seems to fall within the general problem of the heresy has to happen and we know who fell anyway so traitors being hypocrite isn't all that odd.
But you might want to give me more context

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>>543859943
hello, brother

>>543870978
anon even if people are familiar with lore, don't be upset that the majority of posters here haven't read a specific book about the death guard. You could always give a little more context on whatever event you're actually referring to like the other anon said.

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>>543869734
>double power fists is the most retarded loadout ever

>>543871802
>>543866559
Uh oh stinky

>>543871153
So there's this planet called Galaspar and on Galaspar, there's basically overlords, their middle men, and a class of slave laborers who exist as nothing but worker units, kept in line by the most brutal regime imaginable. They have no free will. Mortarion is sent there for compliance and, through a series of lightning surgical strikes as well as buying time for a final decapitation strike by facing down an army of millions with a force of 10,000, he gains control of the planet's defenses, and forces the ruling class to step down after geonociding their middle men.

As his last act during the liberation, he executes the lords of Galaspar and orders the slaves to tally the dead to see just how oppressed they were or some shit. Point being, he "orders" them. Sanguinius and Horus show up to tongue lash him because, as they put it, he didn't "liberate" them, he showed came in as an angel of death, a greater oppressor than the ones they lived under, and brought only death. The thing is, the slaves were kept in such a state they literally COULDN'T form any kind of insurrection or uprising. The slaves were mentally damaged, and the ending hints that they basically felt like they fell under new management..... MAYBE, because the groveling deference the slaves show at the end is the same thing you see everywhere in 40k.

>>543871802
Hey, sexy. <3

>>543871924
>even if people are familiar with lore,
point in case: this retard >>543872000
who can't tell deathwing from deathguard.
what's even funnier, he'll at me and call me a nerd, like that guy who thought hbr and heavy bolter is the same

>>543872176
Lmfao, I was about to go
>actually I do have my dude dressed up as Death Guard
but then I saw he wasn't quoting me. Just at a glance, I thought that was my pic.

>>543872023
I suppose from a tactical standpoint his decision makes sense, up until the part where the dead are tallied. From that point of view, he's not uplifting or restructuring, just playing into his own beliefs.
HOWEVER this does sound like it sets the stage for the post heresy Imperium with it's soulless machine grinding people to dust. So was he right? Well I'd say again he was playing his part, and doing the role intended for him, which is a rather meta opinion I suppose. On the subject of Konrad I think this again is setting up the stage for Mortarion's ultimate fall and the atrocities of the Imperium, that they would, did and will again let such methods be applied. Shows the cracks in the system that are showing again and again. Is there commentary about conquest and the consequences thereof? Sure, likely. All of that is just my two cents surface level opinion though

>>543872176
>he'll at me and call me a nerd
But I am a nerd?

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>>543872176
>wasted a chance to call him a triple nigger

>>543872023
nta but glossing over it looks like the emperor personally sent them to chew out Mortarion, similarly to what happened to Magnus trying to warn the emperor about the heresy but instead having the emperor send Russ chew him the fuck out and pushed straight into Tzeentch's arms despite having no other options to warn the emperor about the shit that was about to go down.

Even if mortarion was justified in what he did (at least relative to the fucked up shit the other legions were doing sometimes) big E was just kind of a terrible dad who'd sic his sons on eachother only on whatever specific things he happened to notice that he didn't like.

>>543833490
>iron losers
imagine losing 87% of your legion on sebastus IV
imagine losing 99,99% of your chapter on some backwater planet against fucking orks

>>543873748
>fucking orks
*Primorks

>>543856032
>assault plays as usual
>retard "melee" heavy interprets this as "panic"
>muh statgscreen
i loathe trash like you. the statscreen is inaccurate and certain weapons have inflated numbers, wich are the weapons retards like you gravitate towards.
the numbers on meleeheavy are drastically inflated because you end up doing a lot of damage vs gaunts, excess damage is counted and damage vs gaunts is generally near useless since they die anyway if someone kills a majoris. picking an aoe build and then rubbing your nipples about damagenumbers is the most sad thing you can do in this game, for fucks sake.

>>543859943
>he took stomp radius first
keep on marching forward, based death guard retard.

>>543874018
I also run bonds of brohterhood

>>543869926
because they generally dont murder everyone, someone needs to stay alive to keep things in line, konrad doesnt go around killing millions of people, he just kills a few thousand, but he has his own problems that nobody likes.

https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/287-pts-patch-notes-11-0

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Neat

>>543875489
Is this like a band aid fix for the fucked breakpoints in hard strats?

>>543875290
>Vortex Beast: Added headshot area
Lmao

>>543875290
>bulwark gets a game breaking new feature that has zero cooldown and is super strong and interacts with tons of perks and weapons
>assault gets a shitty dash attack that still uses up your 45 second cooldown jetpack

Why the fuck does Saber hate assault so much?