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Still Waiting Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-02-2025-update.84332/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>543756424
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I hate mina
I hope she gets nerffed to the ground
also fuck mina apologists
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do you think they'll put masks on the new heroes or just enable them for the ones that were around last year
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Big update is December
What'll it be?
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Posting in best girls thread.
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>>543840814
shes the better mirage
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eshift gun ivy is pure cancer. pure cancer.
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>>543840905
https://youtu.be/j9jbdgZidu8?t=86
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>>543841027
e shift anything is pure cancer
the item is fucking retarded in every way and I can't believe its activation is that good AND it has a 20 second CD that gets reduced to 14 second with CDR
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Mina Ha....
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Reposting my question because I'm curious for really.
Why does Vyper's Bolo sometimes not petrify, sometimes not do damage, and sometimes do nothing at all despite landing it in all three of these occurrences?
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SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
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>>543840905
3 or 4 heroes
base changes
street brawl mode
neutrals update

one or two of these things might be saved for later
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My mains are starting to tend towards Calico, Paradox, and Dynamo. Only 150 games in and there are 9 ritualists I haven't played yet. Do you think people will like me???
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>>543841140
>victor walks towards you
>e shifts taking no damage
>heals back to full
>e shifts again
>repeat until you are dead
>this has no counterplay if he can get the build off
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>>543841125
ugh hes so hot
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>>543840935
False.
https://files.catbox.moe/0vz8un.mp4
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>It's another game that goes on too long so shiv just presses 4 till the game is over
Fuck the refresh on kill and fuck eshift
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>>543841125
He's no Male Priest
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>pick an character with easy natural farming ability like Infernus
>win
It's that easy. All non-fatm characters are bad.
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>brainless retard pushes lane and lets them deny it for free
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The black woman of Valve unoriginality.
These are TWΟ different characters.
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>>543841125
i hope he gets the victor treatment on release and is nerfed to shit right away
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>>543840814
calico and infernus are more op than mina by far
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>>543840814
cope+seethe
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Every game is a battle against my own team. I cannot wait until you smug shitters get a reality check when you're forced solo queue in ranked.
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>>543841125
>>543841553
They should make the male priest like this.
We are leaning towards fan service with Mina already anyway.
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some calico games I'm near the top of player damage dealt some games I'm about half of our top damage dealer. those games I'm tending to have to play a more defensive role and try to get in and just soak damage. thoughts?
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>>543842162
bro this is ranked
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>>543842162
I got to Asc in solo queue only.
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>>543842165
calico has to commit pretty hard in fights
hard to do when you're behind
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Parasexo?
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>>543841243
holy fuck, huge if true
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>>543842303
Why aren't there any mods like that?
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Is Abrams the MC of this videogame? Every hero i've seen has a voiceline about "why this guy cant die?" but never heard anything similar playing other heroes. Valve bluepilled?
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>>543842303
what the fuck
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>>543842347
he has that line so people remember he has a passive that makes him tanky, i think shiv also has lines like that
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>>543842347
it's a noir story, a detective should be the protagonist
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>>543842338
i mean we got pictures of all of that stuff, just don't know if they're all going to be shipped or if some of the heroes get scrapped, they don't think the gamemode is ready ect.
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pausing the game when your teammate is about to do sinners
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Body shot damage needs to be cut in half.
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>>543842418
They should have more of those then. Like "theres a hooker over there!" when bebop neaby so you know about getting pulled in, or "there's a whore over there!" when Mina is neaby.
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>>543841309
victor is the most obvious example but e shift turns any hero into an unkillable god
shiv is arguably more broken than victor with it
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>>543841309
curse?
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>>543842635
that huge standing illusion or whatever it is behind is amazing, wow
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>>543842980
you aren't killing victor in the curse duration unless he's seriously fucked up
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>>543842825
that's what pinging an enemy already does
there's voicelines for ults that you can react to ("GET BEHIND SOMETHING" for seven) but since most of them don't last for 10 seconds there's no room to fit.
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>>543842347
He's the most finished, but yes he is John Deadlock.
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>>543841309
yeah he's a "end the fucking game already or you lose" hero like medusa.
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>>543842347
>noir urban fantasy setting
>"hey is the demon detective with the cursed book, badass revolver, and a mean right hook the main character?"
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did the voice actor for warden just like, give up?
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Why's Calico pick rate so low? Scared of the in your face type play??
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>>543843908
fugly
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>>543843908
is it? Shes in literally every single one of my games in ritualist.
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>>543841125
OH NO NO NO NO PRIESTBROS
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>>543843908
Dumb bitch lies about what kind of cat she has any nobody can respect that
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Sinclair 14% pick rate that's lmao I hate magic shows
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>>543844036
that's an old model that we already know got updated
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>>543843908
not very fun, most of the time no matter how you build her the playstyle is always the exact same.
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What compels someone to play a team game and stay completely silent the entire match? Low self-esteem? Social retardation? Quietly feeding all match as if microphones aren't like $5.
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>>543844036
>antitank
I'm gonna main this guy so hard. I hate tank trannies
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>>543844184
>>543844036
>>543841125
HE FUCKED UP MY FACE, NOW I WILL HUNT DOWN THE...um..uh...INFERNUS
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>>543843908
CALICO IS AN UGLY NIGGRESS

IM NOT RACIST OKAY BUT SHES JUST UGLY
MAKE HER CUTE LIKE MINA OR FUCK OFF
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>>543844184
>wow, so badass—
now imagine him speaking with an irish accent
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>>543842347
>Is Abrams the MC of this videogame?
Was.
Mina is the new face of deadlock now.
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>>543844323
>IM NOT RACIST
Nigga you LITERALLY just called her the N-word
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Why are there only some characters labelled with useful labels while others are just muh epic persona labels?
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>>543844619
name 3
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>>543843908
she's a black woman
that's literally it
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>>543844527
She's his sidekick.
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>>543843908
>one-note kit, only one single viable build since she left hero labs
>even that build is slop and boring to play
>ugly as shit
genuinely why would you ever pick her?
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>>543844668
>le punk, choatic, G.O.A.T.
vs
>teamplay, initiator, clutch
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>>543844619
despite being "epic tagline" type of labels they do describe those characters well, and do it in a way of amusing joke which is nice.
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>>543844710
people like wraith though
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>Mfw
My face when my Sinclair steals Haze ult
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If Calico looked like Wraith her pickrate would be higher.
I trust the MILF and BBL model update will fix her
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>>543844905
My gun sinclair build will cnock your socks off.
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>>543844764
I miss her old kit so much. She at least had multiple playstyles when she was in labs.
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>>543844905
>jump him alongside Calico
>he steals Shadow Form and runs away
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>>543844786
I just went through them and the vast majority tell you useful stuff.
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>>543841747
>>543842165
>>543843908
>>543844323
>>543844764
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>>543845423
give the cat tits too
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>>543845423
i don't think even bare tiddies could save that hairline
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>>543843603
I never give up, no matter the odds!
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>>543845423
still is ugly as shit anon i'm not that easy to please
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>>543845423
Who would even jerk off to this because like, okay you start cranking your hog looking at her tits, but you also know that there's a cat looking at you. Or you supposed to jerk off to the cat? Is it a very specific fetish where people want to have their pets watch them have sex?
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>>543844273
just play shiv
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>decide to try the strat of play for mid as fast as possible
>play heroes that can solo mid
>team is incapable of keeping a player lead for me to do midboss
>we finally do but I'm dead
>team pushes mid walker instead of doing mid
>ignores me when I tell them to do mid
I'm on a net winstreak but shitlo is obnoxious
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It's ridiculous how fucking weak Shiv's gun is
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>>543844346
My panties just got wet
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>queue from US
>amsterdam, 100+ ping
>vpn to chicago where the fucking servers are
>amsterdam
>vpn to west coast
>amsterdam
>vpn to east coast
>amsterdam
>play bot match where i'm the only human
>amsterdam
what the fuck do i do? does my account just have a secret "fuck this guy's ping" flag on it?
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>be seeker 5
>win 3 game
>rank up to seeker 6
>win 3 games
>up to alchemist 1
>lose 1 game
>back to seeker 6
is this deadlock or league of legends
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cool twitterfag design, coat is too clean though
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>>543844786
"g.o.a.t." being in billy's labels is the ultimate proof this character was designed specifically for subhuman retards with no idea what good theming in a video game is.
either that or someone working on the game is legitimately braindead and billy's whole schtick of being a massive retarded twat is the studio's way of laughing at that one specific employee's lack of taste.
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>no major update until december

HOW DO WE COPE
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>>543846353
We don't.
We deadlock in.
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Post yours.
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>>543846335
Billy is the punching bag character.
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>>543846478
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>>543842303
Can you imagine if her "hurt-boxes" were actually that big?
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>>543846478
I'm a goofball, Wraith will never marry me now...
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>>543845423
ugly artstyle, still unfappable.
here she looks cute and attractive instead.
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>>543846186
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>>543846353
I might play a little Dota in November. I played one game this month and hella went off with Drow.
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It's funny how paradox attracted all the latex inflation loving lunatics so all her art is really deranged
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>>543846498
yeah thats exactly what ive said

>>543846313
cool tho he feels a bit too modern here. might be the belts.
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Never played the game but just by looking I think my favorite characters are Abrams, Paige, and Ivy
What does that say about me?
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>>543847053
you like cool looking characters + ginger pussy
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>>543847053
AO3 user
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>>543846839
The dota arcanas were the start of the end
Vakve realized what they were missing all this time
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>>543847143
Okay I was just fucking around how the fuck could you tell
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>>543847053
0 hours played: my favorite character is ivy :)
400 hours played: WARDEN IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD
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>>543846651
>muh girlboss
>a sociopathic butch autist
>trailer trash cop with multiple few-months-long marriages on her account

>marry
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I wanna marry Lady Geist, Paige, and Ivy
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But we at least agree on this?
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>>543846750
Professor Utonium Doorman is great
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>>543847568
speaking of: can someone please post warden boofing an alchemical flask bon.
ive been looking for this pic for a long time
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I've beaten the same guy like 4 times in a row. He plays mina and I play punch drifter.
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>>543847914
Geist cares a lot about her appearance and Ivy is a gargoyle
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>>543848140
In Geist's opinion: "Only prostitutes and nuns shave"
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>>543847914
ivy deserves her own tier
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>>543847963
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>>543848386
god bless ya
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>start the day optimistic for a rank up
>yoshi has sent you his hardest battles
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Now that the dust has settled.

What's the verdict?
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>>543848835
ur gay
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>>543847053
>never played bu-
We are not interested, buddy
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>>543848835
promotion to very hairy with treasure trail
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>>543848835
this bitch's forehead is big as shit on god
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>>543848835
it's an improvement
hard not to be though
reserving final judgement until I see it in motion
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>>543848835
As a first draft VERY good

She actually looks pretty now
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>>543848835
Remove the hat and give her a high bun of some kind to emulate her current tall head and it's very nice imo.
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>>543848835
Still fake
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>>543848835
this is my head canon
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>>543848835
they should give her a different hat
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The only tier list that matters
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>>543849338
I don't find this meme funny
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nuYamato just needs better clothes and shes set
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>>543849338
I laughed
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>>543848835
give her modern clothes and she'll be 10/10, the robes make her look like she smuggles candy bars across a rice paddy
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Feels like the itemization is really garbage when gun doorman is like ten times stronger than spirit doorman.
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>>543849973
it's not an item problem, it's a gun property problem
his bullet hit boxes have a wider diameter than character models and scale way too hard
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give her a soul powered mobility machine or something it feels so draining doing anything with her
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>>543849973
Nah doormans gun is just overtuned
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>>543848257
>>543847914
if geist is right then mina should be in the smooth tier
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Who's fun to play right now? Does Wraith win games? I haven't played her yet.
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>>543849973
his gun isn't that good, it's just that it's so easy to hit that every retard can play with what feels like aimbot so he feels way more effective than he really is
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I hope they'll bring in characters with more varied guns, Paige's gun is a step in the right direction since it's pretty unique, I'd like a flamethrower character for exemple :)
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>>543850439
Gun that shoots Doorman carts
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did the servers just shit the bed
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>>543850439
we need real melee heroes like reinhardt
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>>543850140
ult should shoot out both ends of her soul canister thing and work as a jetpack too
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gunman is the most retarded thing shitlows have whined about in recent memory every other m1 has superior dps
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>>543851064
>go to lane as a pure melee character
>deny.mp3 on every single creep
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>>543851064
I think that'd be cool too but I guess the item shop system kinda means they can't have guns that are too outlandish since most items would be useless on them
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>>543851370
paige makes it work
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>teammate lash disconnects 3 times and when he returns he just spams his ult off cooldown and feeds
>he didn't DC long enough to actually abandon though
I know my report probably did nothing too
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>>543846651
Marry!!
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>>543851519
lmao
I've managed to roll three lanes against page/drifter and all three times we had double their NW by the time the guardian fell
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>>543850439
i'm waiting for the guy with no ultimate but he just has 4 guns that are all good at something.
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>another three months of this krill, mcginnes, grey talon, haze, infernus, billy, abrahams meta
This game is dead
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>make enemy mina rage quit by ganking her in jungle one time
>lose one fight on urn 6v5 somehow
>my infernus rage quits
people who play this game are mentally ill like wtf
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>>543851370
yeah the soul orb mechanic kinda stops that from happening. literally the only thing holding them back from making melee heroes, for a meaningless lane objective
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Valve just tanked the counter strike economy
This must mean we will have a deadlock economy soon that they will shill very hard
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>>543852408
>december is in a month and a half
>there is a numbers patch coming within the next few days
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My low elo teams being oblivious to the fact that counter items like anvil and disarming hex exist is both endearing and frustrating at the same time.
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Just give the melee characters an altfire that gives them a short-ranged fast shot just to let them confirm orbs

Its that simple
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>>543852923
>>543852626
>>543851370
>>543851064
>>543850439
They would also need to alter the gun system. And how would melee heroes work against parry? That's why they cant add it. They'd need to rework the parry mechanic entirely which I'd be cool with it's a gimmick and laggy/random anyway.
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>>543852626
>only thing
No it's just a stupid fucking idea
>but muh overslop/rivals
Shit games where all you do is bash your heads against eachother for 5 minutes until your ult is charged.
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Add kicking and grappling
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>>543848386
>got a great game was Warden
>my lane pardner was good ol' Slampig Page
>curbstomp
NEVER SHOW FEAR, NO MATTER THE ODDS
fuck that nigger Infernus, he's so annoying to deal.
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>>543853202
mina already has kicking and phantom strike is basically a grapple
next
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>win 4 times
>don't rank up
>lose once after
>derank
pondering...
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>>543851064
This won't happen because deadlock players are autistic and would throw a massive fit if the devs allowed them to secure on last hit.
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>>543850439
>instead of shooting from a gun, character that targets the ground and shoots up from an aoe
>ultimate is a temporary buff that enables flight and increases the aoe so you can hit whole teams if they're clustered together
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>>543848835
why do they look like michael jackson
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>>543854398
excellent idea
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Why aren't abandons treated reciprocally?

If I spend 5+ minutes respawning, then I'm done with the game.
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>>543853810
You're boosted trash.
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I would like to cuddle with the new Yamato and smell her hair. I want her to snuggle up against my chest as I embrace her
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>>543850439
I want an explosive proyectile hero. Tired of all the semi-auto and shotguns.
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>>543854392
But if they're in melee range they could just hit Q, abrams and mo already do this because they have enough tankiness and sustain to jump in front of their troopers.
A pure melee character would just be someone who doesn't have a gun but is arbitrarily stronger in some way to compensate, which sounds a lot more reasonable for a werewolf ult than a full time role
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>>543849973
>gut gun scaling
>gut hitbox size

there an entire population of unskilled niggers lose their crutch and have to find something else to abuse
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>promoted to alchemist 1 in a match of average rank initiate 6
ill take it
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>>543854958
>old hitbox nerfed to deal 30% damage and can't headshot
>second projectile with smaller than holliday hitbox added that deals 60% damage and is required for headshots
Fixed
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Does anyone use that deadlock api ingester for match data on statlock? I read the source and it looks fine but feels weird to run a packet scanner just for deadlock matches.
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I'm seeing a lotta Hollidays lately, did someone make a video on her? They're stealing my high priority
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drifter chads upgrade your cold front to arctic blast
it scales twice as hard off spirit and the damage amp makes your 1 insta gib people
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Funny bit of trivia: Drifter can stalker mark teleport into their "safety" tunnels at base. It's funny as fuck getting in there as melee drifter I'm like the rat exterminator
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>>543846353
There is no cope, theres nothing to fucking play, a bunch of AAA slop shit and gacha games, there is 100% nothing to look forward to besides the deadlock update that should have come out in 9 days if they cared about us at all, dead game, dead hobby dead fucking life. its over.
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>>543856593
You can also throw your stalkers mark at the rejuv crystal to teleport to it
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when should you upgrade to arctic? i think i end up doing it around 20-25 minutes or so which might be late. i tend to do it when im out of slots but have money
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Why are all the high level streamers/"pro" players insufferable zoomers who speak exclusively passive aggressively
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>>543856797
zoomers are just like that and it's their generation
what do you expect
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>>543846202
>tell team to go mid

>my talon says "no dude we're at walker"

>respond "midboss means free walker. walker does not mean free midboss."

>talon goes "that- that actually makes sense yeah"

>him and everyone else there comes to mid instead

it was like watching a gorilla use a rock to crack a shell for the first time in his life
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>>543856739
I think it's better late game I only get it after focus lens
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>>543856903
I've been trying to get people to play urn more in my games, like if we get a pick to just try and run urn and either force a fight or push the lane the urn spawned in so we get value
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>>543856903
>team dies while pushing instead of just getting free walker
With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created
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>>543856797
Eido has quit two different matches in 10 minutes. Hope the game never comes out so these people lose their invested time
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>>543857157
I hope it comes out but valve sponsor ZERO tournaments ever
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>I'm Abrams
>lane partner is shiv
>try to swap so we don't get zoned hard by the enemies just poking us
>nobody wants to swap because they're le duo'd
sigh
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Is it better to practice a new character with bots or a standard match?
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>>543857002
>teammate who pushed to walker is clearly slated to die in the next 10 seconds
>walker is feasibly killable if he just unloads whole clip into it before dying
>he instead tries to backpedal and escape the 1v3
>dies for nothing
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>>543857420
depends how ass you are
if you're super uncertain then bots isn't the worst idea. bot games are super short
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>5 matches lost in a row
>all of them always had an Infernus/Seven/Wraith on my side with more than 10 deaths
>queue with those 3 on high priority
>get Seven
>mfw still lose even while going 17/2 and doing 15k damage to buildings because a Mina/Doorman premade lane got the bright idea to give 11 kills to an enemy Lash on early
This game refuses to let me end this day with a single miserable win
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>one good win
>one close loss
and just like that im back in
i think i need to go to rehab for online games
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>>543855882
saiah is so fucking good at her that a lot of people I guess got inspired to pick her back up or try her
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>green lane feeds infernus 7-0 across lane phase
>"we have to punish this infernus, he's too far ahead"
>tell them to farm jungle and deny him resources, avoid fights to starve him out
>they fight him as often as humanly possible because he's pushing
>any time he's low he flame dashes away
>he's 11-0 now
>tell them to stop fighting him and just play lanes
>they fight him again
>he's 15-0 now
>they fight him again
>he's 17-1
>we lose every walker and midboss
>enemy has rejuv
>my teammates decide to fight infernus in our jungle
>he's 19-1 with a rejuv and a team of reinforcments
>they wipe
>he ends match 22-1
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>>543857539
I don't care about rank atm, so shorter matches would be nice on days I don't have much time to play
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>>543854809
This would apply for every unique weapon that isn't some sort of fast firing smg/fast firing shotgun, not just melees

In an ideal world, only rapid fire windowlicker heroes like haze and wraith would have to bother securing souls. Everyone else would get to autosecure with their 0.25 bullets per second flintlock or fiery chain flail with a "get the fuck off me" secondary fire. Deadlock community would cry and piss their pants at this kind of asymmetrical design, therefore MOAR haze clones please!
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>>543856797
Watch that germ Metro if you want aggressive-aggressive
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>headshot booster
>mystic shot
*crack* *siiiip* ahhh... yep, it's laning time
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>>543857157
He's unironically worse than Metro. Fuck it, metro's actually pretty tame compared to most other deadlock streamers.
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>>543856991
You play urn in early game. Once the clock hits minute 19 your team needs to look for 1 pick and once granted you can finish mid and win game. Statistically this is correct.
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>against infernus in lane
>lose lane
name a more perfect combo
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>>543850247
if you have good map sense wraith can carry games, but her early game is atrocious so your laning needs to be on point
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i'm going to miss gunman so much, i'm spamming it as much as i can
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Matchmaking is so fucked since the MMR change. for every game I win I lose 5 more. I'm positive KDA every match but it doesn't matter I get these niggers 0-6 0-7 0-8 every fucking match. How hard is it to stay alive. no one pushes walkers no one even wants to listen. I'm going to demote from Oracle soon and honestly, I'm close to uninstalling. I have no idea how icefag expects me to carry these retards every game.
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>>543842163
>posting the worse version of Clergy
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>>543859449
what are you planning for your next crutch
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>>543859449
I associate him with gun so much I didnt realize that wasnt his real name for a bit lmao
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>>543860217
Just going to go back to spirit doorman, he's my favorite character
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>>543860767
alright I respect that
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>>543859814
I never got a single leaver until the match making change's now I get them all the time
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>>543842347

They have lines like that for other tanks/tanky heroes.

I know for a fact they have ones for Shiv.
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>>543846651
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>>543861387
Sticking your dick in viscous would probably feel very good though.
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>>543861468

yes that's why he's in "fuck" you silly goofball
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who to play when drunk? billy?
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>>543861810
abrams or lash seem like a good time
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>>543861810
I have played with 2 drunk Hazes this last month so I guess she's drunkcore.
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>>543861927
It's just that there are a lot of slavic hazes, so they happen to be drunk
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>set both Billy and Drifter to 2 prio
>never get Drifter
>set Drifter to 2 prio and Billy to 1
>never get either
What the FUCK
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https://statlocker.gg/profile/1741549889/matches cheater or smurf?
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I don't understand how the "Above 65% health" items are useful. I feel like losing my stats when I'm actively fighting an enemy isn't really beneficial
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>>543862572
If it's Fortitude, it's because you can guarantee the speed boost for roaming. By the time you lose all the hp, they should be dead and you should be recharging
If it's the others, the 65% thing is a bonus. Bullet Vest/Enchanter's are bought for the other stats
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>>543862572
move speed is good for fortitude
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I've seen more Gunman than Doorman recently.
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>>543862572
every single one gives you regen, stack them all and even without fortitude's % heal it's a lot.
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warden's 3 is useless it never lands unless they dash into a wall or are in a tiny room
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>>543862912
have you considered that its entire purpose in not only to actually land
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>>543862912
Works fine for me.
Maybe you're just retarded.
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Man I cannot wrap my head around Yamato. I am never going to learn this hero.
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I got invited to Marathon's closed test but I don't really want to install it now. I'd rather be a shitter here.
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>>543863397
How did you even get invited? Do you play Destiny 2?
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>>543863397
Damn that game looks fucking ugly
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>>543862572
they're really efficient
if you play a burst character or a CC rapist then they don't get the chance to put you below the threshold
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>>543863397
Isn’t that the game that got caught stealing some random artist’s assets? I’m surprised they’re still going ahead after such an embarrassment
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>>543862572
because it gives you the same resist per soul cost as the resilience items, and has an additional benefit beyond that. it's effectively like 200-300 hp depending on your base pool, the additional stuff just makes it so value
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>>543863397
Didn't they have to start paying people to play that shit?
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what's ivy build to win???
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>>543863397
I thought it already came out and no one liked it, did they pull a multiversus
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I like it.
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Who do you guys think will get the next visual update?
>>543846871
it fucking blows, pun not intended
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Who do I play if I want to find a duo partner I send porn to during lane phase and goon with?
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>>543865632
paige, mina
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>>543863650
I think I just applied some day and now they are desperate for people to get in since I never get invited to actually popular beta shit.
>>543863717
>>543863894
>>543864165
>>543864513
They were going to "take it back and fix it based on player feedback" but the original beta looked so fucking ugly I'm not really feeling like installing.
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Active items need to have longer cooldowns 60-120+ seconds, even Fleetfloot, but in return they last longer
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>>543862912
>go warden
>pull everything into range and duration for it
>even get echo shard
>spam
>win
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>>543863397
come back to /dg/ the doomgods are winning
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this patch fucking sucks
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>>543857636
>lash
so he tickled you?
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>>543854637
That's not nice
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Drunk pandaman when?
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>>543853047
Just have everyone's melees be different
>melee range for either or both light/heavy
>melee speed
>melee damage
>heavy melee distance
>melee arc size
>etc
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>>543865861
I can't even imagine what /dg/ is like now
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>>543866263
And remove parry? Because if they dont then melee would have to be super nerfed.
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>>543853047
just have the gun-melee unparryable
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>>543866978
No, what I mean is make everyone's melees different, soa "melee focused" character would just have a really good melee and their gun is just something they have (so, gun sucks but melee is great or abilities suck but melee is great, etc).
Won't have to change nor remove parry.
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>>543865748
dogshit suggestion
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There are so many women playing this game, it weirds me out. I'm used to playing games where getting a female teammate only happens once in 1000 games
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>>543867254
>t. seeker
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>>543866263
>melee arc size
>give a melee character a large arc
>they no longer can bait parries and end up the worst character for melee in the game
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What kind of items are good for invading enemy jungle?
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>>543867330
I don’t think I’ve ran into a single female gamer (at least I’ve heard speak) in my 1000 hours of DL
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Is Viscous allowed to have like, the single best kit in the entire game because it requires above room temp IQ to play well?
And to top it all off a great gun?
>captcha: G00A8
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>>543867217
how is that any different than what we have now
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>>543867635
eh his gun's alright, far from the best.
Still love my goo.
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>>543865861
Is it total shit? I thought about running at least the tutorial, but it's already telling me to install Battleye and I'd rather not have even more spyware on my machine.
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>>543867427
What if it was HELLA fast?
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>>543867768
Everyone's melee is the same, currently
>no they're not
Literally, almost no difference
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a pure melee hero would just have an m1 “autoattack” that’s a close cone attack that can’t be parried
Obviously it would do less damage than actual melee and be based on weapon damage directly. Some items wouldn’t work on it and it would need to be unbuyable like rapid recharge for warden.
>denying
alt fire to secure
>walker dmg
either needs an mobility ability that can go upward on short cd or needs to use alt fire
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>>543863281
POWAH SLASH
>does half your HP
FRYING STRIKEU
>goes through 10 walls, debuffs you and starts throwing nuclear bombs
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>>543868231
Just have the M1 melee be long, but skinny.
Gun items work the same (speed increase, damage, increase, slows, distance, etc). Just couldn't use headshot items, just like Paige.
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>>543867886
Not the best, but damn good all the same
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>>543868482
honestly there’s a lot of ways they could vary even a pure melee hero, but it seems Yoshi is not creative enough to do so
1000 more heroes with a cone attack on 1 that sometimes has melee scaling
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>>543868080
There are literal melee abilities in the game like rend, slash, baseball bat.

And even if those didnt exist the basic melees are the same but the kits of each hero and stats make the melees pretty different in playstyle.
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>>543867635
goo boy best boy
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I'm 21 wins behind losses is this possible to recover from?? I'm so worried about this.
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>>543867886
>>543868890
>Not disputing the kit
So I'm right? Being a retard filter lets you have the best kit, maybe I should give him a go
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You’re all idiots. If they wanted to do a melee hero they could just give them a Drifter like gun but the range is really short. So it’s basically a close range slash projectile but it looks like a melee swing.
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>>543868975
Yes. But you'll either need a lot of games or a eureka moment
I was pretty negative WR when I first started. With Billy especially I was at a 20%-ish winrate. I've gotten him to ~70% now

Basic things like soaking waves + farming camps in between are enough to spike your winrate a ton if your actual ability to play was good. But if you're just shit overall it'll take a lot of effort
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>>543869010
yea they could if they were creative to give the feel of melee m1
But they gave us doggy doo doo unfinished drifter
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>>543868975
>I'm so worried about this.
Why
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I'm tired of Gun Paiges being uncounterable in low elo lobbies because my teammates don't focus them.
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>>543869707
hit em with vertical movement like mina or holliday since spread shot only goes horizontal and paigeniggers can't aim
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>>543869010
god tom king sucks
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>balance patch coming "in the coming days"
>posted on Thursday
>tournament during the weekend
Surely it's coming today? Kelvin and Victor are permabanned, time to shake things up.
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>>543869849
I play goo man. I don't have struggles dealing with them myself, I struggle with my teammates dying to her constantly. Also she just melts objectives, almost akin to Mina pre-patch. She melts the yellow/green walker with a budget 15k build, it's ridiculous. She also doesn't struggle to farm since she has short cooldowns. Usually my gun carries keep her in check but when your carries are getting into team fights and not picking her off it's madenning.
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>>543869010
>>543869261
Thats probably going to happen eventually

desu I can see then using the street brawl mode as a way to experiment with mechanics
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>knockdown, vortex web, greater expansion warden
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>>543869881
It’s probably gonna be next Thursday. He was just letting us down gently
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>>543869707
she has like 600 hp just yell and spam ping until they get it
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>>543867635
He's allowed to have all that stuff cause he's not particularly good at anything. He's just solid in every way not overpowered. You will always be useful on goo boy if you use your abilities well but that might not be enough to win.
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>>543867635
gaben's special lil boy
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>>543870303
Vortex web ivy bomb into stun
>>543869010
You mean like the other 10 shotgun characters we have? Higher rate of fire just means it's worse
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>>543867635
What makes Viscous's kit so good?
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>>543868980
cube's a lot weaker with capacitor's existence, and goo punch being parry-able would be a big deal if people learned how to.
Basically his kit requires above room-temp IQ to play and counter.
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>>543871592
>go full cdr and range on punches, no damage
>just spam spam spam
>have fun
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is there a way to track those buffs from the gold satues and sinner's sacrifice on your character?
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>enemy carry overextends
>disarm him
>he swivels around in confusion before dying
HA
fucking IDIOT
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>games been out for over a year
>kills still don't matter whatsoever unless it also involves stealing unsecured souls or it's past 20 minutes
you are insane if you treat this game as anything other than a fun sandbox to play your fav hero in
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>>543872456
>early kills don’t matter
Your rank?
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>>543872164
the expanded character stats on the shop screen will lay them out.
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>>543872684
phantom last year
oracle when i came back for the new heroes
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>>543871495
Puddle punch alone is so versatile you could ignore your other 3 buttons and still be a solid character.
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>>543872906
Puddle Punch movement is too complex for me, is Viscous viable if I don't use it?
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>>543873174
His goop is one of the best lane abilities out there
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>>543872751
Okay so do you play the game right now or not?
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>>543873332
I have like 80 hours since the new heroes
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>want to be somebody's cute duo
>have the most fun and perform the best on mo & krill

it has never been more grim
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>>543873174
>Too complex
You put it on a wall and let it push you. What's complex about that?
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>>543873441
grown ass men that have fun playing mo and krill are 100x better as duos than people who want to be "cute" while playing games
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when is the x-mas patch dropping?
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>>543873174
My puddles are too strong for you, ritualist.
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>>543873408
And you’re oracle rank right now? Why are you being so round about? Just let me insult you and call you wrong to get it out of the way then I can be nice and have an actual discussion with you about how early kills effect soul and power economy
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>>543873591
That last one was just a slap on the ass
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>>543873501
I don't know how to make use of that for movement.
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Is it december yet...
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>>543873839
no :(.. im a content piggy give me updates i hate being patient
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>>543873780
you have a keyboard, try hitting some of the buttons.
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i wanna play the new vandal hero that was leaked 3 months ago
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>>543873643
I'm oracle right now, I already said that
the economy is heavily stacked towards farming over kills, ganking anyone is griefing because you split the lane souls 3 ways, even if you kill someone
if it's not a 2 for 0 the surviving laner just soaks 75% of the expected value of the wave, while you're splitting the wave horribly
half the cast is either so good at farming that getting ahead of them means they just disappear to their camps that are mostly incontestable and come back as strong as you or they have such insanely good base kits that even with not much money they are useful
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>>543874090
this is why low rank is more fun than ''le high rank'' cookie cutter
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>>543872906
>corner jump
AAAIIIIEEEEE
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how do I ping my ability cooldowns
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>>543874594
Hold tab, click ability
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>>543874090
Well no shit kills arent going to be worth more than farming. Kills are how you allow your team to farm. If kills were worth way more then they'd get the jungle + waves + walker + urn + massive kill money. Kills are map control and mid boss, you dont want them to be super high value. Kills on fed targets are very fat though, especially if youre on the losing side. And they're not earning money while dead either so even bigger gap close.
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>>543874421
Oracle is low rank
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>>543874627
wtf you stole my SP
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>>543874090
A kill or two + tower is always going to be worth more than splitting the waves to a third person. Especially when you're meant to take their sinners after
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>>543874752
I don't speak whatever you just said
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>>543874752
Middle click (ping) the ability
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drugs and deadlock iykwim
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why do people rush quicksilver with mo? it's a shit item for him
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>>543875036
Take your drugs *swipes at you*
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>>543875140
pumps his scorn healing, same with mystic burst+t2 scorn.
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>>543875140
Heals based on damage dealt. It increases the damage dealt plus gives his piddly sustained damage a little bit more
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>>543875140
for healing retard bro
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yup
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>>543875396
that vyper?
me
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Why are there no good Drifter main streamers
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>>543875223
>>543875270
>>543875284
1600 for just laning? i can buy healing rites and booster for that
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>>543875621
Even if you do, it won't match the healing you get, and certainly not the actual damage it gives you
The burst it adds to his gun, which fires slowly and has a lot of shots, isn't to be underestimated after
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>>543875621
booster doesnt give you as much, healing rite doesnt increase your effective hp in a fight
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>>543875693
>>543875696
so does it increase damage of scorn then?
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>>543875782
Yes? Did you read. The entire reason it gives more healing is that it increases scorn's damage, it just also increases fire rate and general damage
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>>543875782
read nigga read.gif
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>>543875396
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>>543875782
bwo...
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>>543875880
At least he got some objective damage done. He knows what's up. I think my record for deaths in game was 27 but it took 50+ minutes
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>>543875828
>>543875867
>>543875931
not buying that item sucks ass and is expensive
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>>543875992
Good, the less effective maurice and krilliam players the better
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>>543875992
Yeah I'm sure you've outmathed basically the most iconic early item on him that literally every single Mo gets
I believe in you boss. Follow your heart
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>>543875992
literally the only item more cost effective for upping scorn's damage is boundless spirit
you have no clue
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>>543875396
wtf rank is this
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>6 hour ban
okay i might consider uninstalling the game now
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>>543875396
>m on team
>lose
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>>543841125
I don't care what's his kit, I'm so playing him once he is released
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>>543840918
But this isn't a Paradox thread, wdym?
>>543842163
>>543860212
Garbage design
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>>543867614
Most of them are silent anyway, how'd you possibly know
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Are mods not working anymore? I had the top bar plus, tab to view items, anime skybox, and a few skins
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>>543876558
I hope they never work
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>>543842825
>There is a hooker over there!
>Applies to both Bebop and Mina.
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>lane with the worst Infernus I have ever seen
>lose
>lane vs. the worst Infernus I have ever seen (forma de Sinclair)
>win
It really is that shrimple
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>>543841192
you're not the sex with abrams guy
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>>543876901
I played against a literal cheating infernus today and we beat him because he was so fucking stupid.
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>>543841192
AMEN
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>>543875396
How do people do most damage as Geist?
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>>543877101
how did he cheat?
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>>543877204
Aimbot
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>>543867330
haven't found a single one, vermintide 2 cata on the other hand...
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>>543877234
what mod site can i get that?
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>>543877203
throw bombs
click heads
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>>543842347
can this stupid ixian just die already
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>>543842347
they buffed he's LE MELEE CHARGEE just so he can do power attack on enemies xD
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>>543877284
https://www.kovaaks.com/kovaaks/main
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>>543874631
all you did was describe how the game works, I know how it works
the funnest part of any moba, especially one that's literally a hero shooter, is fighting other players, the macro is for babies compared to normal assfaggots
fighting while ahead should be worth more than punching fucking sinners, at least towers being worth a lot actually makes sense
>kills on fed targets are fat if you're on the losing side
this only encourages people who actually won lane to continue to not interact and continue farming since every time you try press an advantage if you fuck up even once the billy that died 4 times in lane is just as relevant as you again
>>543874421
>>543874680
oracle is still admittedly low elo where lots of people play for fun, but this shit happens even at the peak of ladder
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who is your favorite denizen?
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>>543877614
Uninstall Wizard
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>>543877614
the one guarding the sinners in the theater
he's just doing his job
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>>543877671
e...easy there tough guy I don't want any trouble
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>>543877597
>nooo I should be able to ignore macro and just kill until I win
Revive Battlerite then
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the game will keep dying if they don't rework the terrible low skill melee nobody enjoys playing against heroes who hit you once and take off 60% of your hp while you have to aim, and they just press a single button.
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>>543877819
the macro in deadlock is for retards compared to dota or even >league, I don't know why people take this high ground
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>>543877846
you can afford an 800 item can'tya?
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>>543877846
this but with certain hero abilities
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Am I a noob or does the team with the lead tend to always win? It seems to be a problem of "win more, win harder". Once you start to lose, it becomes harder and harder and harder to come back. When an enemy team is pushing, has more souls, has more map control, etc, they just keep winning. It is easier to hold a lead than take a lead. The winning team is able to get more items, more farm, more control, faster than the losing team can 'turn it around' regardless of any "comeback" mechanics like getting bonus souls for a kill.

I am not saying that the better team shouldn't win, but I am saying that the team with the most souls doesn't always equal the better team. You know what I mean? It doesn't really matter how good you are at the game, at the movement, at knowing what to do, knowing your character, if you're on the losing team. It matters more how much the enemy is able to accrue souls, it matters more if you have teammates that are braindead and feed, it matters more if their stats are better than your stats. If you have 10k and the enemy has 20k, that is a massive difference.

A team that is winning can do things like rush down singular players for ganks, over power lane guardians with no hope of the defenders stopping them because their stats are better. Doesn't that just suck?
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>>543877597
Idk man it sounds like you just suck bro I fight all the time and win. Yes if you limit test your aggression youll die a lot until you figure out how to fight with a lead without feeding.

Or you can just ignore alladat and wait for the casual retard baby aram mode coming out to placate you
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>>543878310
In low ranks this is probably true. They have no idea how to come back from behind and try to jungle/passively farm and that just gets them all killed one by one. To come back in this game you need to try to punish them when they are on your side of the map which paradoxically mean fighting MORE as a group when behind.

I'd say in oracle (which isnt that high of a skill bracket) the lead at 10 minutes is basically meaningless
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>>543878310
Early lead is more likely to transition into mid which is basically an auto-win of the game
But post-20 mins, the game might as well come down to who wins a teamfight. Early game just increases your chances to be ahead for that final fight > mid > win
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>>543878310
>winning team groups to kill one guy
take a walker while they're away
>winning team splits up to farm the whole map
group up to kill a lone opponent
the expected value of all your plays are more rewarding when you're behind because cumback souls. it's just harder to pull the plays off
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>>543878310
I've been on the giving and receiving end of thrown games so not necessarily
obviously if you get kills and do well in laning phase you'll have an advantage but it's not really out of the question to take a really good fight if you're 10-20k behind and close the gap
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>>543878310
It's more that the team with better players usually gets the lead and therefore wins. If the better team fell behind it's pretty easy to comeback with good item buys and outplays.
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>>543872715
I don't know what that is. Is it a hover over part of the shop?
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>>543878485
It is more of an "all the time" problem imo. You are right that you need to punish, catch, deny, etc the lead. The problems come from the fact the winning side is much more easily able to do all of those things to the losing team than the losing team is to them.

If you're on the back foot it is harder to catch someone, it's harder to deny, it's harder to get control back. If you're on the winning side you can win more by leaving earlier, by being greedy but not too greedy on farm, you can deny lanes more easily because you don't need to focus on the defense so much as you can lazily attack a lane of minions. If you have more control you are able to secure more urns, more bridge buffs, take better positions for ganks, and so on.

Again, I believe all of this is a good thing on paper for a winning and better team; they should win. It's the actual gameplay of it that sucks ass. Trying my hardest to win/defend/push/etc but am cut down not only by shitty teammates but stat checked enemies who factually deal 2x more damage than me does not make for a winning fight/game.

Lots of generalities here I'm sure you can read between the lines since I have a character limit
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>>543878505
Good art
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>>543879000
>it reference to fingering women
yep uninstalled and left negative review
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>>543878918
Literally all that matters is the 25 - 30 minute fight that wins the game for either team. Only higher level teams can even maybe win the game by 20 - 25 and know how to actually push an early advantage
99% of games at all elos come down killing 1 or 2 people (from a pick), midboss, win. There's just not much you can do about a team of 40k souls with 9 lives unless they're just genuinely retarded
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>>543879093
start running pal
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>>543878918
In order to widen the lead they need to take risks and split up. If they group up they leave themselves open to being split pushed. I have seen sooo many games thrown because my "winning" team decides to push or hover around blue walker for no reason and get shit stomped and suddenly the 20k lead is gone in an instant.

The defenders have a solid advantage in many cases if they play smart. The only time it truly sucks ass is when mid boss is available to be taken, but they're definitely going to change that soon so defenders can contest it better.
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>>543879159
Yeah I dont know how they fix the mid boss problem. Genuinely how do you deal with the problem of one single teamfight deciding the game no matter what without buybacks. I get they dont want buybacks because it drags games out for so long but SOMETHING needs t be done about mid boss. Like what about buying a temporary blocker for mid boss. 4000 souls to make mid boss more powerful or some shit
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>>543879000
why does victor wear barbed wire on his left arm. like if you're going to complain about chronic pain then fetch a pair of wirecutters
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Who're the best jungle invading characters?
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>>543879632
Calico easily #1, drifter #2, mina #3 but she mainly farms them not kills people
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>>543879358
I think it's more like the game should get a concede/FF vote system. You will have some faggots who cast the vote in baby rage to just end the game, that problem will never not exist. But overall, it will be better and healthier for the game if implemented.

When you're losing and losing bad, you can tell. When you're on the team with the retards, you can tell. When you are having a pretty good game but lose team fights and they get control, you can tell. Just let me and my team decide "good game, that's it" and we all move onto the next one. I don't need to be in another 10-20+ minutes of torture before the game ends. Arguably it's better than being in those loss scenarios since people will int, throw, fuck around, not try, etc. Just concede and move on, please.
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>>543879632
Billy and Drifter are the iconic invaders
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>>543879708
There are very few games that I feel are completely unwinnable honestly
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>>543877295
Is bomb Geist better than life drain Geist?
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>>543879708
By the time an FF will actually matter (they won mid and they're about to rape you) it's the last 4 minutes of game anyway. FF wouldn't do shit except save you actually seeing your base pushed in
Mid is a swing objective that even losing teams can get off a single pick and instantly turn the game, especially since it guarantees urn's comeback souls even if you don't have confidence to push their base
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>>543880032
The build I use goes bomb first for farming then transitions to suck. I think suck is better because frontlining is useful to teams more than just empty damage that crumbles if youre jumped
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Paige may have 0 escape and paper tissue hp but goddamn is gun paige good against bad players. I'm shit at aiming in general but if you just have to sort of look in the general direction of the enemy to hit them then that's not a thing I have to worry about. Also she deals like 350 damage in one second at 6k souls whenever express shot is off cooldown, double that since it's trivial to hit two enemies with split shot.
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>>543880254
If it's so easy how come I saw a guy lose with gun paige 4 times in one night
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>>543879928
30% of your games are unwinnable, 30% are unlosable, 30% are entirely up to you.
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>>543880341
I absorbed all the wins from him
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>>543879708
>I think it's more like the game should get a concede/FF vote system.
fuck OFF
this was ASS in league i fucking hated it
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>>543880254
I don't understand why people say Paige has no escape. Stamina mastery really does not cost that much and you get tons of stamina. She is a lower HP character in general so you should be either: staying in the back so you don't take as much damage anyway, or mitigate her HP with green items/defense items. And you can always steal stamina bridge buff if able for a massive boost of speed and stamina to escape.

I've played Paige plenty and "escape" just fine all of the time because I'm not a retard who face fucks the enemy (unlike my random teammates).
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>>543880562
yeah if paige uses her stun and root intelligently it's going to be pretty hard to impregnate her
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>>543880562
Some gun carries
>Haze
>Infernus
>Ivy
>Doorman
>Wraith
>Warden
All have abilities that actually make you safer, vs having 2 stamina and a unreliable root. It doesn't make the hero unplayable but she's basically an artillery piece rather than a proactive gun carry. That you have to go so far as to list a bridge buff as an escape option proves my point.
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>won early lane
>laned almost the entire game
>went to teamfights when i could
>only died twice
>got some kills and plenty of assists
>still fell behind in souls
i might quit this game for my mental cuz holy shit this is driving me crazy
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>>543851064
Obligatory Monkey king hero with a 10 meter melee range and the ability to pole vault like crazy
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>>543881029
>basically an artillery piece rather than a proactive gun carry. That you have to go so far as to list a bridge buff as an escape option proves my point.
I mean, I agree man, that's my whole point too. People that play characters with 2 stamina and don't get bridge buff or stamina mastery don't know what they're doing. Same with any/all other lower stamina characters. People think she "can't escape" because they are playing her in situations where you CAN'T escape. Even if you had more stamina they're in a scenario where they will probably die more often than not. Play her further away so you can help your team most while still being able to escape yourself; that just a fundamental basic concept to a character like that. And if you are playing her in a way where you are CQC than you must also understand you are going to suffer not being able to move/escape as well.
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>>543881078
Jungling?
Sinners?
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every game i played today was decided by one team having 2 impossibly bad players on it.
this matchmaking fucking sucks ass.
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>>543881078
Sinners are almost as important as souls. The goal of winning lane is that it lets you safely push lane to their jungle and then take their sinners
Push 2 waves (so your waves have the pushing advantage) > sinners > jungle camps. Return to catch each wave in between steps
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>>543846313
This is a bloated design with no soul or creative thinking behind it. Why all the belts, the little pouches, the bandages, the knuckles, the severed hands ?
He has a necklace with a dogtag ? The only decent part is the sheep's clothing part of the coat. Drifter is supposed to not give a fuck about anything except his own killings, he's the bare essence of the vampire, lurking in the shadows making people disappear, being a boogeyman urban legend monster, not some vet off the deep end who just aquired superpowers.
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if fighting and racing games can do collabs and crossovers, then why can't league and dota do the same? I'm not saying they have to be canon, or that they would be any good for the game's artistic integrity (if they even have that at this point) but it seems strange
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>>543879708
Kill yourself
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>>543881695
What does this have to do with Deadlock
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>>543881695
Those are party games where nothing matters and even then, there was a big shitstorm over them. They just didn't care
If they actually put Ichiban in Dota it would be genuinely fucking retarded
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>>543881827
well, a lot of the people here actively play or have played those games, including the devs
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>>543881695
they don’t fit in the games and they take themselves too seriously to just do crossovers like that
best you’re getting is a cosmetic reference
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>>543879358
Just making it more difficult and scale with time would help a lot. They could leave the reward strong if you needed a 3 man+ advantage to safely take it. It would make games longer tho which os another issue rn there is a huge variance in game length between low and high elo and its inverse to what it should be imo. Low elo ideally should be shorter because more casual and high elo players will have more tolerance for slogs
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Bring back solo lanes.
Fuck having to 1v2 these "duo" lanes where my partner fumbles the first trade before the first wave and then buys damage items at 10% hp instead of healing.
I'd rather do well and then lose to a gang than have to endure 10 minutes of this shit.
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>>543882352
>vyper i'm matched with slides into the enemy before troopers spawn
>gets light punched 3 times and hit by every bullet
>200hp, doesn't buy any healing items for the entire laning phase
>keeps doing it until she's 0-6
>i just automatically lose the lane and suffer for it through no fault of my own and i had to watch it happen
really miss 1v1ing people on yamato and just bombing them to death.
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what are some (atleast 3) good spirit/ability characters that dont rely on skillshots
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>>543882352
Its probably too late for more lane experiments but maybe

>2 mid lanes, one underground and one across the rooftops, with midboss moved to ground level in-between them.

Or

>5 man mode
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>>543882656
mina
maurice & krilliam
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>>543882656
this is a mb1 game
go play dota 2 you shit eating scrub
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>>543882656
Geist lol her bomb is retardcore.
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>>543882656
Victor? Dynamo can do some insane damage with his 1 as long as you buy like 20 different spirit items for it and it barely requires any aim at all
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Loving this matchmaking.
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>>543881078
Why does it matter though? Solo lanes give you more souls, what I do is I fight a lot early game then when my farming monkeys are done I take up the solo waves while they fight and get my money that way. It's like rotating farm timings. Trying to get top souls every game is retarded, but if you really MUST try get cultist sacrifice or trophy collector (if support)
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>>543881695
it's pretty weird because only blizzard seemed to be aware to the fact that crossover shit just sells like hotcakes.

>>543882067
>and they take themselves too seriously
come the fuck on now nigger
have you READ crownfall?
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>>543846313
This is some gay guy's thinly veiled fetish
>>543882750
underrated post
>>543882656
seven
ivy
geist I guess, her bomb covers the entire lane and the rest are point and click
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I won't lie, I don't know what that does, but my kids say all the mystics are buying it.
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all i want for christmas is yoshi breaking minas ankles with a tire-iron
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>>543884071
based
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>>543881695
i want them to add a TF2 character and thats it.
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>>543883607
>Went from ritualist to alchemist
People are way better now since the early beta.
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>>543884291
She's literally one of the worst heroes though. If anything icefrog need to nerf low skill melee heroes like Billy or Abrams.
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>>543884497
TF2 happens much later
At most it'd be a parent or maybe one of the Mann brothers
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>>543884712
>t. shitlow that can't parry
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>>543884712
>1k dmg nuke while in safe distance
>get touched once, fly away, twice
>can dodge any skill
>can buy eshift to make any items/skills besides curse useless and wait for cds
flying to another lane when touched is really high skill, wew lad
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>>543884864
>Q brain when you point out his entire gameplay loop his one button without aim
Lmao can't wait when icefrog reworks or remove melee and you shitter have nothing to fall back on.
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>>543877846
the game will keep dying if they don't rework the terrible low skill M1 spam nobody enjoys playing against heroes who hit you from the other half of the map and take off 60% of your hp while you have to position yourself, and they just press a single mouse button
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buff slowing hex
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>>543881635
''Bloated'' and ''overdesigned'' are the new ''slop'' buzzwords. The concept is fine, the belts have to go tho.
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>>543884712
Abrams has been nerfed a few patches in a row, if you can't deal with a hero who's got 2 working skills and the rest have 30 sec cooldown you're just dogshit at the game.
>>543885410
Just nerf Calico and Mina
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>>543883607
This might be the highest K/D I've ever gotten on Pocket. I'm getting better.
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>>543884712
Billy is barely even melee lmao
He has the third or fourth highest gun scaling and you can remove his 3 with capacitor which is the entire reason to melee

The only purpose of his melee vs good heroes is to apply Wrecked to increase his gun damage. So unless the person parries like a retard and lets you just swing into him 5 times, he shoots you. That's his thing
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>>543886789
How lol he has two escapes?
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>>543886886
>Cloak: teleport a few dozen meters
>Briefcase: become invulnerable for a few seconds
Good in theory, but hard to use in the heat of battle if you are a 75 IQ moron like me.
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really wish there were better items than fortitude and veilwalker for just moving around the map faster while recovering some HP.
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>>543887265
veilwalker is already mega broken dude.
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>>543887437
it doesn't heal enough when i have like 5k HP.
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Do not put a chinese hero in the game please for the love of god
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>>543887773
Put a Cultivator in that punches the shit out of people and his M1 is just a slightly longer range melee that makes a big magic fist
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>>543887773
they should add a Chinese poison man
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Can they put sailor moon into the game?
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>>543887773
idk, anon here had a nice concept of chink snake oil salesman/alchemist
Just dont make the hero another waifubait trash and we're golden
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We need a rich gambler hero in the game with skills heavily reliant on rng, Ogre Magi style. His wish to the Patron? Getting rid of his card debt.
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>>543888864
Fuck ogre magi
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>>543884730
are we really still pretending the time period is gonna actually matter, like at all? nevermind that they've already pushed it far past TF2's current timeline with shit like Billy but the enshittification of the game's artstyle and tonal direction is gonna immediately shut down whatever "BUT MUH VISION" shit you spew as soon as they open the steam workshop gates
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>>543889170
No, do not fuck Ogre Magi, thats icky.
>>543888138
Cultivation is gay
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>>543889215
Unfortunately yes, Valve are diluting the feel of the game already, hats will make things much worse (see Dota2)
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>>543888864
ogre magi is pure skill, what are you talking about
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>>543846267
it thinks you're Dutch, truely a fate worse than death.
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It's another "everyone in your team is below 20k damage after 30 minutes except you" kind of day
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>>543885120
I play drifter melee now purely to farm seethe like this
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>>543888864
that'd be interesting but hell to balance
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>>543846871
What even is paradox? Is she even fleshy?
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>>543890703
Normal human with a bunch of tech gadgets, the fishbowl is a fancy mask that her whole organization wear.
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>>543890703
It's just a woman in a disguise that all members of her organisation wear
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>>543890703
She is a pair of ducks in a nice jacket
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Lash is my comfort hero.
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>>543890991
More like cumfart
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>>543890991
>Bullet Shielding
Probably the item I see least in the game
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Is having a support necessary? e.g. if I see my team comp and I see 5 carries, and my hero has a viable support path (Mikuginnisu), am I better off supporting instead of doing the usual carry build?
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>>543891121
I laned against Haze and Drifter, it was a logical choice.
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>>543890887
>>543890906
Neat, wasn't sure considering the setting.
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>>543887217
it will click eventually.
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>>543891121
i see extra health, metal skin and resto locket less
witchmail, colossus, kevlar, shadow weave and cheat death are also very rare but more due to being t4s i feel like
funny how they are all green except shadow weave
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>>543891376
i'd rather get reactive barrier so that her sleep combo doesnt work

bullet shield can just be baited out in lane too easily but it's alright later in the game. Still think reactive is better though
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>>543884917
It unironicly is, have you not played her? You got to time the i frame and aim where you want to go. It's not completely free until you've learned how to do it properly off muscle memory.
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>>543891652
I feel like I'm the only person who buys extra health as a value item. Idk why, it's solid as fuck and for mid game fortitude keeps you on the map a lot and pays for itself.
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>>543887217
Youre probably too focused on combat, you need to farm hard with majestic leap to make opportunities for your team. You're the annoying uncatchable rat fuck farming dangerous waves and then showing up when your team gets jumped with a fat affliction
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>>543891821
i don't know why i never see it, i feel like it shouldn't be that bad of an item
actually i checked statistics and while it is low usage rate for a t1 it's not as low as close quarters, mystic regen, high-vel rounds, rebuttal and rusted barrel
which i find odd
all these are upgrade items that you actually buy the upgrade off relatively consistently though so i wonder if it's counting games where they were upgraded or not
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>>543889504
You're gay
Cultivation is the anti-powerscaler genre that completely shits on all capeshit and makes them seethe
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>>543887437
You are stuck on last patch its mid now
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>>543888864
Just run lucky shot witchmail drifter
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>got a new mousepad (same version)
>it's no longer affected by gunk
>my aim is now off
FUCK
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>>543892276
Its literally the most soul efficient item in the game

>>543891683
Its worse late game tho? Only blocks 1 maybe 2 shots then
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>>543888864
Mo & Krill is already causing the brains of the poor league players to explode from a 3 second stun, what the fuck do you think a hero like Ogre Magi would do to them? Please have some mercy
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>>543892295
>anti-powerscaler genre
What in the fuck are you talking about, it’s THE power scaling genre
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>>543890703
am sad her club isn't a solely bunch of her, creating a time paradox
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>>543883949
For everyone who isn't Fortnite, collabs only make you money in the short term. Pushing out constant collab content pushes your core audience away, leaving you with the whales who'll buy anything and the people who jumped in just for the collab content (who won't stick around for long)
Live service games make their money in two ways, whales who buy everything, and with dedicated fans who come back every season and drop 5-10-20 dollars. Collab is less likely to appeal to the 5-10-20 dollar crowd, which necessitates upping the prices so the whales spend more, which in turn pushes the 5-10-20 dollar people away as they get priced out.
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How I pray for an item that actually works against bullets
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>>543893828
bullet resilience, metal skin, return fire, disarming hex, plated armor, several firerate slows. literally what else could you possibly want?
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>>543894675
none of them besides the fire rate slows actually do shit
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>>543894675
Something akin to spirit shielding where you get a shield if they do a lot of damage in quick succession. I feel like we have good items for the ratatatat gunners but not the big blasters
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>>543894982
....bullet shielding
the item right next to spirit shielding?
do you just not look at the shop tabs?
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>1 match is filled with retarded team
>next match is filled with retarded enemies
The game is not even out yet and they are already deploying EOMM?
This is hopeless.
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>>543895096
But for late game
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>>543895156
It's not eomm, 80% of the people playing this game are just retarded.
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>>543895256
Then why is it always 1 good match, 1 bad match, 1 good match, 1 bad match, rinse & repeat?
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>>543895343
You're not as good as you think you are and don't have enough impact for the huge winstreaks+loss streaks other people get?
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>>543895156
>>543895343
Oh god this game is gonna have its own eomm schitzos when it releases
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>>543895430
>You're not as good as you think you are
Or you're a shill that's eat bullshit for breakfast and trying to gaslight me that my team / the enemies are not actually retarded.
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2 more hours of dedlock ban
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>>543895637
>The game either put the retards into your team or the enemies team and didn't even bother to split them up
>It's easy to see when the 2 most useless feeding fucks are always in the same team
>But no, there's no EOMM, trust me bro
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mina is designed to counter pocket thematically
think about it.
flying silence on ult completely neuters pocket
midrange weapon means pocket has to engage
and a chasedown tool for countering teleport
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>>543894924
Conditionals are balanced to be stronger than passive

Except juggerjaught for some reason
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>>543895753
Unless it's something out of your control, you deserve 10 times as much ban time for quitting
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I cant take waiting another month and a half

Someone leak shit
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>>543895753
>he doesn't have an alt
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>>543895798
1v1 pocket wins it everytime, she tries to get stacks and heal and he just blinks in and kablamos her tiny hp pool
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>>543895857
>Conditionals are balanced to be stronger than passive
yet they aren't
curious
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Gun dynamo is actually really good wtf
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>>543892962
It's anti-powerscaling because the very concept is that there's always a higher mountain
It's "the" powerscaling genre because it's the overall strongest, but it's ironically the least powerscaly in-universe because every character is asspulls and entry-level Cultivation is max-level powerscaling logic for everything else

When the average jobber's attack is powered by 999 collapsing universes and there's a literal infinite number of levels beyond that, powerscaling becomes useless beyond shitposting
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>>543895798
Mina is the perfectly designed character.
>She's a rich fuck that look down on everybody else
>That's why she treat everybody as her meat shield & only come in to finish enemy after her grunts did most of the work
>She hates pocket
>Silence ult that's a complete counter to pocket

>>543895979
Good, they can have hate sex afterwards.
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>>543895902
>>543895952
i hate steam fuck they are stupid faggots
i just wanna play sum billy
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>>543896017
Just go to any wiki stat page and sort by stat change and all the conditionals are at the top

Example: https://deadlock.wiki/Fire_Rate
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>>543895979
Pocket has negative spirit resist. And it's much easier to dodge Pocket's burst with Mina than the other way around.
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Let's say the match go on for 24 hours.
Which character can snowball the most and be the most deadly?
It has to be drifter right?
he's gonna have so much damage that he can 1 shot anybody with a normal attack.
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Feed then leave
Literally the only times I'm allowed to play Drifter anymore is in games like this. I had a 90% winrate and now I'm probably down to like 60%
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>>543895798
>hero who has in-built silence, movement + disjoint and damage amp kills shit
Damn, any other moments of enlightenment you'd like to share with the class?
Okay, being an ass aside, new heroes have way more things going for them compared to older ones, weird how quickly the powercreep appeared in the game. Wonder if old guard are going to get some reqorks before full release.
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>>543896294
He will get bird'ed by gt before he sees anyone
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>>543896294
either i feel like GT can scale even harder, spirit linearly scales his gun and move speed and he gets permanent buffs from the bird
bepop also scales but you just buy counterspell and laugh at him
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>>543896523
>Have infinite souls
>Use Bird
>One shot someone with 1k+ permanent spirit power
>Buy refresher
>use it
>Sell it
>Rinse and repeat
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i am only winning games on paige
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Why are gun builds so much stronger than spirit builds?
Guns can be shot whenever, while spirit skills have cooldowns, so it doesn't make sense to me.
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>>543896523
>>543896682
>Hide in tunnel
Uh oh, bird man. Can't do any shit now, can you?
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>>543896880
johnny sausage fingers is a lesbian term for men who finger women
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>>543897029
what the FUCK does this have to do with my torment?!
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>>543896887
give me even one viable gun build in this patch
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>>543896880
Gun Paige?
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>>543897160
Doorman
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>>543896905
anon his gun scales with spirit
his arrow also scales with spirit at x2 scale
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>>543897124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4m_ypC1Ok8
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>>543897189
No, full spirit with ward/barrier.
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>>543897207
>Drifter use ult
Uh oh, bird man. Can't see any shit now, can you?
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>>543897340
Uh oh
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>>543897376
uh oh w-what?
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>>543897351
we are at infinite souls, GT can just buy divine barrier and clear it
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>>543897673
That's not Spirit build it has green items there.
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>>543898241
i need the mobility or I get penis'd
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>play drifter
>get 100+ stacks on passive
the state mandated losses are going to be catastrophic but god damn did that ever feel good
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZX82sIh08U
Lol! xD
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>>543898447
xDxD
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>have had multiple Vinny’s ragequit on the enemy team in a row
Am I one of the few people who plays this girl and isn’t a whiny cunt
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>>543898206
>refresher
Too bad, old man.
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>>543898447
>>543899332
>>543899546
XD
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>>543899604
you can also counter spell the ult
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>>543885410
>use slowing hex on enemy
>they dash away before the projectile has reached them
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Slowing Hex used to drop flying faggots out of the sky by the way
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I only play Mirage for his fun lil spinny dash animation
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>>543901229
Build knockdown you whiny baby
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>>543900192
Slowing Hex is honestly so weak I don't know why it's still in the game
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>>543901229
*fast falls*

Was getting cucked part of your plan?
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>>543901347
it's really funny on warden
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>MAGIC CARPET WORKS WITH GOO BALL!!!
And you niggas said Carpet is bad item!!
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>>543901260
FOR DAJINN AAAAAAA- FOR DAJINN
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>>543901463
that's been a thing since forever
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>>543898384
Keep raping King.
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>>543901990
I hate this gumbo munching fuck so much he can be 10k souls behind me and still be a challenge to kill
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>>543902204
My my what a fine morsel we have here, be a shame if you were to be.... deflowered...
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>>543901742
I WILL NAHT!!! FAIL!! NASHALLA AAAAAHH
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>>543895753
what did you do anon?
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Can Paradox carry? Kinda wanna try her out
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>>543902204
I'll be taking that +5% if you don't mind
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>>543903003
Early game? Yes she's a menace. End game? You're practically cosmetic to your team.
Either way she's really fun to play
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>>543903161
Sometimes I think they should remove the nerfs to carbine but then I get almost one shot by her and remember why they did it.
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How can I be the worst player on my team every game? What does it take to actually get put in an appropriate rank?
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>>543903161
This an okay build?
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Is there a Johnny Bravo skin for the Lash?
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>>543903547
I vaguely remember there being one but I could be imagining things.
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Is there some way to tell how long until mid spawns without the UI mod
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why isn't refresher rush more common?
seems like having 2 ults would be pretty strong in midgame
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>>543901463
So does Phantom Strike and Warp Stone
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>>543902204
How is he even a challenge? Maybe its because I'm playing Abrams, but he is such a pushover most of the time
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gun or spirit viscious?
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>>543904124
Not enough DotArds playing.
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>>543904124
you dont kill with ultis you just initiate
and you just need one initiate
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>>543896880
That's weird. If you can land your shit with Paige you should be able to on pretty much any hero who aren't agonizingly slow like her.
I do admit heroes compatibility is a weird thing. My nastiest hero is by far Haze. Whenever she somehow gets pulled from my lowest priority heroes, I'm completely locked in to be a shadowy menace deleting everything that even dares showing on the map and hitting insane flicks. I do not even like playing her and think she's pretty boring.
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monster rounds paige is lowkey broken asf
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>>543904513
he's just kevin but land bound so doesn't matter
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>>543904985
gun paige is absolutely worthless dude
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>turn corner
>see ivy
>melt her down in less than a second'
she was behind farm by like 15k souls, I feel bad she's too cute to kill but i must
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Metro is smarter than you. He does consulting for medicinal chemistry while being far better than you at Deadlock.
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>>543907075
Metro was my favorite BF3 map so I may be retarded.
brbrbrbrbrbrb down the hallway of grenades makes me smile :)
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>>543907075
He's a bit swarthy for a German
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can we PLEASE remove this victor character im getting so fucking filtered i cant please
>>543903543
looks fine but i would sell mystic shot at some point for fortitude or something
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>>543907246
That's because he's Bavarian.
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How do I avoid teams like this?
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>>543907345
Just build around him if you see him gaining souls
it's not hard.
"hey mina come get victor with me"
and you bring your heal bane + decay and it's easy
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>>543907664
i DID have healbane and someone else got decay but he just cleanses them anyways
we needed like four people to kill him and that gave space for infernus ginnis and wraith to fuck us
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>>543907345
>fortitude
Right, not a bad idea.
When do you ult though? To me it almost seems like a suicide button, unless the fight is already won or you're getting a catch outside of a fight
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>>543907345
wait we have people here who arent in shitlow?
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>>543907075
Don't you have another smurf account to grind, my Metro-sexual friend?
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oy vey stop noticing easily identifiable patterns in matchmaking
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>>543907345
Focus lens is a sleeper counter because the counter is debuff remover which victor will never buy
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>>543907817
I think people here have discussed this in depth but one-time application antiheal (decay, spirit burn etc) doesn't work on him for the exact reason you listed.
Use Crippling Headshot/Inhibitor instead
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>>543908056
>Oracle 4
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>>543907345
>infernus
>calico
>victor
>sinclair
The game was rigged from the start
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>>543907075
well im a neet and i fucking suck at deadcock
what now libtard???
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>>543907345
absurdly huge draft diff lol
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>>543908010
the general combo is wall>carbine>ult
you ult in generally two circumstances:
>you or your team is trying to chase someone down
>ult the enemy carry into your team in a teamfight
generally you dont NEED carry items to do this, which is why carry paradox is a meme. much better to play util/tank with divine barrier etc. so that when you DO ult someone in a teamfight you can get out yes.
recently EU was pushing a build similar to yours in comp play, and the paradox died first every fight. you may trade 1 for 1, but sucking up your team's farm to go glass cannon and get blown up is a major opportunity cost.
>>543908263
bro i had crippling too, and yes i was focusing on proccing it it didnt do shit
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>>543840646
i invested in the gunman stock early, now i'm dumping.
can't share profits with metafags. just hoping spirit doesn't crash when the nerfs hit.
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>>543907345
>m on team
>lose
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>>543907424
You can't. You need to open your mic and micro-manage them if you want to win with that kind of retards. Can't blame you for not trying and just going next tho. IGL especially in Deadlock is extremely taxing and those animals just deserve the loss.
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>Having Carbine and Return Fire active at the same time as Paradox makes the enemy get carbine slowed every time they shoot you
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>>543908264
Oracle 4 is vastly better than every other match scoreboard I've seen in these threads.
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>>543908804
no way...
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>>543908927
Might be that higher rank players are more self-aware
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>>543907345
how do you die that many times as Ivy. Geist has the same deaths despite no stoneform or flyaway ult.
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>>543907345
>>543907424
i'm literally them as mina - even when i win or drop a bazillion kills, i still end up with mediocre tower damage and barely over 20k player damage.
what's the mental shift? how do i actually play her? maybe i'm just too aggressive for a squishy character? idk.
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>>543909428
I do best when I just use my ult off cd and build bats. See an enemy? pop ult, who cares for kills focus on scaling
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>>543909407
desperately pushing objs because no one on my team would, and then getting walled or wraith ulted
also i didnt have the luxury of building defensives so calico would blow me up
you'll also notice that i have the second highest kp on my team, i was in pretty much every (failed) fight when doing all of the above. generally an ass experience
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redpill me on shiv
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>>543909428
without watching your gameplay who the hell knows? could be a million things. we don't know if you even know how to dash but we could tell you everything about macro and micro and if you don't dash you'll still lose.
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>>543909759
he monke
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So this isolated target thing Drifter has is nice but what do you do when the targets are never isolated
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>>543909759
Buy 3 damage items at most, rest is greenmaxxing. Max knives first. You'll never die and you'll deal a million damage.
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>>543909428
mina is a burst hero, they dont really excel at topping damage charts
if you have higher player/obj damage done than a proper m1 on ur team then they are doing it wrong
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I want him as a character in game
or at the very least a character with a spoof of gate of babylon as an ult
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>>543909669
>wraith ult while ratting
stoneform > fly away, if they can dedicate their entire team to stopping you then it's actually out of your hands and on your team to farm back into the game or push an obj.
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lmao
https://youtu.be/wIuQfm1Y9rE
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>>543910181
This is what a Cajun accent supposed to sound like, yes? I've never actually heard anyone speak like that.
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>>543909860
>Mina is a burst hero
>has a sustain ability and an m1 stim

Mina is spiritually a bruiser and should stack flat hp items
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>>543910181
Need Drifter version of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-5LK5zt3KQ
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>>543909759
the Shiv redpill is that he IS red
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>>543910648
she only unlocks long term combat when she's got t3 bats and ethshift
otherwise that 9 second cooldown on bites procs really hurts her
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>>543909813
feed or farm
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>>543910181
I hope he/someone posted it in the discord, maybe we will be spared Matt Mercers voice if they like it.
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Sage goes in all fields
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Berserk AND frenzy???
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>>543911515
>maybe we will be spared Matt Mercers voice
impossible to get rid of that man
on the topic of VAs I really hope they recast Vindicta. I only hear Marie (P4G) or Handler (MHW) whenever she talks.
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>>543910181
This isn't even a real accent and anyone who thinks this is good hasn't heard good voice acting before.
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>>543911862
Just add a male cowbowy and have him voice that, he was alright on McCree I geuss.
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>>543873441
find someone who plays vindicta, paradox, doorman or holliday and give the enemy lane cancer
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>>543911943
1. cajun accents are absolutely real just virtually unheard of outside of louisiana
2. it's a fanmade shitpost
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>>543910665
anyone remember those AI voice memes from like a year or two ago that were stupidly convincing? how come everyone suddenly stopped making those? we could easily train an AI on any Deadlock hero's voice and make them say funny shit
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>>543911943
>>543912154
It's fake ok then I take my post back, nobody would write those lines and hire this man.
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>>543912042
>another cowboy
Meh, maybe if they make it like an outlaw or the outlaw Holliday is chasing, but then you likely just end up with (almost) the same voice as Drifter already has.
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They should add a new hero that's a cow wearing a fedora and say it's part of the moofia haha lol
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>>543912518
Well apparently he is Floridian so have him voice a guy from there.
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I love Victor. He's so easy to learn and master. He's almost kind of brain dead in how easy he is. He reminds me of Lady Geist a lot where you really have to try and bait your enemy to come to you to die than being overly aggressive.
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>>543911862
Vind is 100% fine, Holliday and Paige however suck and not in a fun way
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>>543909834
which 3 damage items?
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So much sanding to do... my roommate posted it before, its a joint effort. I want to make a bunny Geist and a Paige after but idk if there is a bunny paige, moreover I need to like it and im picky. If you could have a figure of a deadlock character, what would it look like?
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Is Drifter even a good hero or is he one of the ''get fed and do well in 1 out of 20 games'' mediocre picks?
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>>543914652
latter I believe
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>>543914280
Paige's voice is great and suits her character
>she sounds like a neurotic, anxious nerd
Yeah
Wraith's is bizarre
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>>543914652
The latter.
It can work in Solo queue and low ranks because people are all over the place and will often leave their allies to die.
In higher ranks and when the ennemy team use their mic, you can only play him as a meme support ult bot, he simply cannot get stacks and he needs them.
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>>543914280
>Vind is 100% fine
Her accent is weird and half-assed, and also as previously mentioned I just hear her previous characters.
I think Holliday is fine. Paige I'm also neutral on
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>>543914843
>she sounds like a neurotic, anxious nerd
Being shit on purpose is still shit. Valve could come up with anything and they went with this abomination, she literally is Kez of Deadlock
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>>543915020
Isn't Vindicta meant to be a colonial? Why does she sound so posh?
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>>543915108
She's like from the witch trials, I think? The idea being that the accent would be more British than American.
That's what I think is their reasoning, anyway.
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>>543914843
Wraith doesn't sound like a girlboss gangster, most of the time she sounds a bit too girly and youthful.
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>>543914283
mystic shot, cold front, spirit snatch, maybe decay to keep your rage up.
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>>543910181
HOW CAN I BE HOMOPHOBIC? I BLEW HIS FUCKING BRAINS OUT
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>>543915201
Yeah so she's meant to be some colonist no idea why they made her speak like some bitch from the aristocracy
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>>543915284
>girlboss gangster
Thats Calico, Wraith has built a gambling den but Patrons keep telling her its very shaky and her wish is to keep it intact. So she's definitely new money/inexperienced which fits the characters.
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>>543915284
She's meant to be youthful and vulnerable. Do you guys WANT two dimensional girlboss characters? I don't get it
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>>543915797
>She's meant to be youthful and vulnerable
Elaborate
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>>543915797
>She's meant to be youthful and vulnerable.
You imagine 1920s New York to have a lot of vulnerable mob bosses running around (ignoring the fact that she's female)
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>>543915905
What the other anon said essentially, ambitious but inexperienced
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>>543914540
I never understood the effort for this shit. It looks cool for a minute then I don't care anymore.
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When are we getting a Amelia Earhart inspired, transatlantic accent character?
I love that accent it's hot
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>>543914540
I'd want a figure of Abrams doing some cool shit
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>>543914540
I'm honestly surprised you'd even consider doing female characters.
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A happy Victor skin where's he's just really happy to be alive, his wish is to meet his creator just so he can thank him.
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Finally, a Pocket victory. I really think that me buying Disarming Hex saved the match.
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victor skin where he just plays online shooters all day and never respects the life he was given
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>>543916774
victor skin but naked and hung.
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>>543916938
Do they have a fever? Why are they sweaty and red? Mina especially looks a bit disoriented from fever.
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Vic already has a lot of skins, mostly in a patchwork form. I suggest RGB Abrams instead, color changing based on which lane he's on.
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>>543917181
Yeah but Abrams is larger therefore he has more skin overall
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>>543916929
that poor fucking vindicta's back
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HOW DO I DELETE THE FUCKNIG STUPID CHAT WHEEL FROM SCOLLR
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>>543917342
You mean Infernus' with 10k+ obj dmg and a pretty similar player dmg
>>543917071
Noskill smut ''artist'' please understand
>do not use/republish
Oh lol
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>>543916929
I hate to break it to you bro but I think you might have been carried.
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>>543917342
Infernus did a lot more than she did, tardbro
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vindicta snipe should go through one wall as long as it's like not 5 meters or more thick
and crow should actually mark targets and make them visible through walls because she literally says mark them
now she's viable again
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>>543911862
I would have never noticed if you didnt point this out so I think she did a good job
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>>543917552
snipe needs doorman hitbox
ez fix
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>>543917527
I definitely wasn't the MVP, but I think that the flow of the battles really changed when Haze/Infernus/Vindicta stopped being able to shoot.
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>>543914540
>bunny Geist
Please please please please PLASE DO THIS
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>>543917674
it's cool that it's one of the few true hitscans in the game though
and the only long range one
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>>543917641
I'm a bit autistic when it comes to recognizing VAs so yeah I recognize it may just be a me problem
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>>543916192
Damn. Im guessing you've never had a waifu. We just enjoy things differently i guess. Are you into game artistry and lore at all or are you just someone who wants to go pew pew and the rest isnt so important?
>>543916365
Maybe him doing his charge? Or his slam down move would be cool. I dont play him so I dont know the names of his moves.
>>543916431
Girls are sexy too. When I play geist, seeing her ass on the zip line makes me act up
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>>543917992
who is my VA
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>>543918047
your va is nolan north
that guy voices everyone
even you
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>>543918047
Al Sneed, but you were formerly voiced by Chuck Tamzarian
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>>543914843
no, paige sounds like a league character: simultaneously unfit for a battle yet treating it like its all fun and games.
the dragon voicelines and her delivery sound like she's about to drop a fucking Forspoken one-liner.

her lines should indicate that she threw herself into deep water, standing against armed mobsters and killers with nothing but a couple books. her skill voicelines should be her improvising attacks on the spot using whatever means of weaponising her lightshows for children she has.
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new voicelines for drifter came out this update. seems like welcome improvement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIuQfm1Y9rE
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>>543918352
>"I'm gaaayyyyy!!!"
wtf valve?
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why did the devs buff all the black female characters?
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>>543918558
white boy summer is over
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>>543918558
to attract balkanoids and finns to the game.
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>>543917325
Still counts as one
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patch notes?
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>>543917527
>>543917736
Besides, 4 out of 6 of my kills were done in a span of a minute. I didn't carry, but I was valuable to my team, which is what really matters.
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>>543912240
ai techbro-jeets ruined all fun there was to be had from AI.
only insta reels remain
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>>543918752
>stole a bunch of kills
>was valuable
In-character way of thinking
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>>543917181
i think they should enable sv_pure 1
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>>543912240
>>543918898
ymfah on jewtube still does those, they are few but high quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FigIAAYHoW8
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https://youtu.be/c7xHNkFVPRw?si=a8iuhQXacbOjCL7b
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There was an update and my mods didn't load and I got scared for a second.
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>>543917851
If we can complete this doorman figure and it looks decent, I would really like to do her next. They'll look good next to each other.
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How many updates can they push without showing patch notes?
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Anyone got the video of a group of people and one guy keeps saying "Drifter looks like he peels women"? I was reminded that video exists because of the recent video titled, Drifter peels people. But I can't find that first video.
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If I did this regularly it wouldn't feel as good.
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>>543918352
FUCK IT I ATE THE OPS
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>Play Support Paige
>Get absolutely fucked in lane by the 200 damage, never miss Doorman bells and Mo who ignores all sensory input under tower
>Most lanes also kinda getting fucked
>Try to support as much as possible, some teammates get kills, but can't do much against getting jumped
>Suddenly notice Shiv (who was also in my lane) keeps diving people and just murdering them
>Realize the best course of action now is just support Shiv and keep him alive as much as possible
>Win
Is it really that simple?
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This model is scrapped, right?
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>>543916938
Lesbian art is so dishonest it's gross.
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>>543921051
that gun looks goofy
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>>543921051
idk if scrapped but some leaker said they "went on a different direction" or some vague shit like that
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>>543921327
How mindbroken would Vyperfags be if they made her a Lamia
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>>543921327
Snake with boobs, XCOM2 style?
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>>543920851
this eureka moment is akin to a haze realizing she has to shoot people to win
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Another 2 months of nothing...I don't know if I can make it....
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>>543875140
>>543875223
>>543875270
Last when i played mo religiously you usually bought reactive or coldfront first.
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>>543875140
real mo chads buy arcane surge first
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>>543875515
He's dogshit outside of peelow.
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>>543921663
Pleb taste, hope Valve know better
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>>543916938
Hey I did my best effort(1 minute of time) removing that pesky watermark.
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mo players pretending magic carpet is unreasonable when they are full build at like 15k anyways
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>>543909759
He was an broken piece of shit many moons ago, and because of that everyone thinks he's easy. But he actually requires strong fundamentals to play well now.
Learn shotgun M2 movement to unlock TRVE Shiv
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>>543921812
They're doing a balance change.
Paige gets 4 stamina by default. Mina gets a speed increase, Victor ult lower CD, Infernus gets a buff across the board but focused mainly on spirit, and Abrams should be getting a melee nerf.
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>>543884730
It's gonna be saxton's dad that'll get added.
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>>543921756
We both got demolished, you'd think there's no way a Shiv could come back from that. Shiv tends to either dominate from the start or if he can't do that, he sucks all game and can't bring it back. But there he goes killing again in usually 1v2s
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>>543914540
>faggot retard routine shitter up of threads is also the 3D printing faggot that was on /a/ and other boards as well
It all comes together. Put on a trip please.
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>>543896423
Kelvin has been playable and gigabroken since release.
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>>543922115
my man
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>both kelvin and mo on enemy team
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>>543923403
yeah I dont know man, its just being really selective and forced outrage, like infernus has more on his 1 than paige has in her kit
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link for best mirage build?
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>>543922940
Not me or my roommate i have no idea what youre on about.
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>>543924146
There is a high concentration of lead-drinking/krokodil injecting schizos in this thread for some reason I wouldn't worry about it
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>>543923589
>both lash and dynamo on the enemy team
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>>543924251
Im not too worried but I wanted to clarify at least once that whomever theyre talking about isnt me, and beyond that im gonna disregard it. Thank you though.
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>>543924502
>>543924502
>>543924502
>>543924502
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>>543924251
>defending the literal cocksucking poster
Go back
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>>543924901
Take your medicine
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>>543922351
Its funnier with the watermark
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>>543922940
Source the post so I can laugh at how retarded you are.
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>>543925094
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>>543926171
Samefagging me over and over won't make you less mentally ill
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>>543926545
>anon cannot comprehend that multiple people can live in the same home
>anon also cannot comprehend how retarded they actually are
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>>543920731
WE'RE SMOKING FILTERED CRACK YOU STUPID BITCH!!!
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>>543876901
Were you Yamato or Drifter? That Infernus was so fucking stupid I had to jot down the replay and show him off like a circus dog.
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>>543927638
Nope, Paige. Just goes to show just how many retards there are in this world
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>can barely hit shots let alone headshots cuz of bad aim and the tiny characters moving around erratically
unironically do i just uninstall?
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>>543931178
Aiming isn't super required in this game. If you have a hard time just get slowing bullets.
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>>543932405
im having such a hard time aiming i can barely apply bite/burn on mina/infernus
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>>543932820
Play lash
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>early lane
>lane ally keeps engaging with 0 health and then says "im trying to get souls but i keep getting pushed"
>late game
>another ally keeps 1v1ing a super fed enemy and then says "eh w/e you have 10k over
me anyway"
holy shit i really cant deal with these fucking idiots man



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