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Cynical Surgeon Edition
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>Story trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ULiusPxQG4

>Character banner

[10/23-11/25] Kira Kitazato 5*, Toshiya Sumi 4*, Yukimi Fujikawa 4*, Kayo Tomiyama 4*

[10/9-11/6] Seaside Tomoko 5*, Shun Kano 4*, Kiyoshi Kurotani 4*, Miyu Sahara 4*

>Weapon banner

[10/23-11/25] Bloodletter (Kira Kitazato-exclusive), Undying Embers (Kira Kitazato-exclusive), Scarlet Scepter (Toshiya Sumi-exclusive), Heavy Metal Pain (Yukimi Fujikawa-exclusive), Emerald Charmer (Kayo Tomiyama-exclusive)

[10/9-11/6] Bubble Babies (Tomoko Noge-exclusive), Ocean's Tidings (Tomoko Noge-exclusive), Demon's Bite (Shun Kano-exclusive) 4*, Death Stinger (Kiyoshi Kurotani) 4*, Submarine Sonar (Miyu Sahara-exclusive)

>Current events
[lasts 30 days after account creation] Take Your Heart
[10/23-12/8] Unconditional Love Phase 2

>Guides and resources
Character building:
lufel.net/?lang=kr
lufel.net/?lang=en
Synergy Guide: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gbV0OY_6K579nxUa5FuDcOkbxDc1VJD5ejjq3dkuELs
Banner schedule: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Isx1vTD2ccZrdmtwiNpeJlIYkpExVdzOlbODTLoScoo

>Chat Emoji PNGs
https://mega.nz/folder/zZUkSRID#UHs3AK6fB-rnNy8S3mWKgw

>Guilds (have /vg/ in your profile if you request to join)
Tsumi - 100013554
Motoha Slammers - 100016392
Fun Island - 100030397
Motoha Lovers - 100032970
Waifu Slammer - 100040044
Thanks, Doc! - 100035622
Four Chins - 100055671

General Chat Channel #624
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I love Tomoko
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>Favorite Synergy
>Alongside your biggest criticism for the game
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>>543849865
Reminder to hit the gachapons.
You need to in order to complete the new Kichijoji Adventures.
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I'm sitting at 79/80 double pity. Should I grab Summer Tomoko or wait for a confirmed Futa? I haven't done the new story mode yet.
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>>543850268
Wait for Futaba. She has more long-term usage and benefits.
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>>543850025
>Favorite Synergy
I don't know. I think that right now it'd be Kiyoshi's since it's one of the more unique and interesting ones alongside Yui's.
The rest are kinda boring so I'm indifferent to them.

>>543850268
If you have Marian you can guarantee a Futaba.
If you don't though, SMoko is pretty valuable.
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>homoflop OP
grim
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>>543850114
I want the shimapan capy bruh
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>>543850025
>>543850549
Forgot:
>Alongside your biggest criticism for the game
The 6 months delay for newer 5* standards.
I hate it more than the lack of compensation for the sped-up schedule because it screwed up my plans that I made when the global server opened and that I'm still sticking to.
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I love my wife, Ayaka Sakai
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Did we get a new outfit with the completion of the new Mementos?
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>70m in the companio boss with messa
you fuckers are liars. he hits harder than queen. ryuji doesn't even come close.
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>>543851420
Remember that the boss is tailored to be especially weak against him.
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>100% new palace and got all konplapu gems with the treasure detector
>Ticket level 25 for mementos and beat all the savage bosses
>Fully duped Cu Chuulain and completed the 2nd part of Winds event
>Didn't pull for Messa and will most likely rank back down to 7* for SOS
New content when? There's nothing to do but dailies now.
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>>543851420
What awareness did you use?
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>>543851923
i borrowed an a1 that was only level 70.
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>>543851308
Rank 25 Chemdah Tickets gives you Navy Town Outfit.
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Unicorn is definitely the easiest challenge fight of the three so far - and really doesn’t need Massa for it either.
A very standard Nuke team of Makoto/Granny with a healer, Puppet, and literally whatever you want Wonder to do clears all 5 with level 70 or below characters
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I love my wife, Nishimori Haruna
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>>543852742
We know 4pedo
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Is it just me, or were the companio coin rewards cut in half?
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they patched the bug which let you claim character portraits for characters you don't own
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>>543855048
Good thing I already fully abused it to get to level 41 thieves den. I don't care if it doesn't work for me anymore.
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>>543850025
>Favorite Synergy
Maybe Merope because it introduces the cute pink idol. I don't really like any of the currently available confidants as characters.

>biggest criticism
Well, I just said it. The characters are just way less interesting than in the real Persona games. The ones that seem the best don't have their social links yet.
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https://youtu.be/Y7wRfWGtKkQ
Look at how useful yoshitsune is bros!
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>>543856401
>because it introduces the cute pink idol
REEEE
Naruru a shit!
I liked Merope before that pink dink shit tit showed up.
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>0.4% means statistically you get 1 rate up every 250 rolls.
>All got on pity exactly.
Not even my first time getting a character to A6 but it felt pretty bad to have to go to pity so much. Just was seriously unlucky. Don't think I'll do it again unless we last long enough to get to P4.
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>>543857269
Kill yourself
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>>543857269
Please be better with your money.
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>>543857269
Are you in Motoho Slammers so I can leech off your Messa for a better score?
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>>543857269
Very nice shoop.
I-it's a shoop, right?
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>>543857269
>>0.4% means statistically you get 1 rate up every 250 rolls.
Flip the script.
You have a 0.996 chance of not getting the prize. at your 109th pull, the odds of you not having pulled the prize already is 0.996^109 = 0.646.
35 times out of 100 you would have already received your prize by the 109th pull.
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>>543857269
Honestly nice, I got him too and kinda want to get him to A1 at least but I’m not sure yet. Getting him to A6 is wild though, do you just really like the character? Curious what his stats are at A6.
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>>543851420
>New unit does fine against shill boss
First gacha?
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>>543856874
>P3 characters get the P3R HUD

Actually surprisingly soulful.
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>>543850963
we know 4chad
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>>543857518
Sorry bro I'm in the other slammer guild.
>>543857946
He is like the only character original to the game that I like. I was going to do this from the start since I first learnt about this game from seeing clips of him when he first released but I didn't want to play a game I can't understand. These are his stats without any cards if that was what you were looking for.
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>>543859741
How much did that cost in real world money?
I'm kinda tempted to A6 Mont when she comes, but ~$1500 might be a bit much for some pixels.
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>>543857269
thanks for your service anon
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>>543861081
Roughly $800, I rounded up when adding because I didn't want to deal with the decimal. I think i had around 204 rolls saved and then there was whatever I had exchanged for gems with dupes.
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>>543864254
Thank you. Not as bad as I was thinking.
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>>543850025
>Favorite Synergy
From the current versions available? Tomoko but I did them to see more of Kotone. Sitting at Rank 18 atm.
>Alongside your biggest criticism for the game
Aside from them cutting out 3/10th of the reward order from the chinese version, I'd say the distribution of content between major update beats. A time-limited version of the Velvet Trials but but for a certain type like idk, female or male Idols only would get you to play around with your other pulled characters more.
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>Kept Kotone since Day 1 on my team
Anyone in the same boat? She got my underleveled ass through the Matador shit and 90% of Mementos.
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>>543864254
Fuck. Makes me glad to not have spent a single dollar.
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>>543867408
God bless you. She's the best looking and has the best voice, but I'm not good enough to have always had her in my team. I plan to bring her back more often as I get her 5* weapon forged (I'll always keep it as one of the consolation prizes). Yuki is really good too; I just wish she hit harder.
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>>543867408
Yeah, she's one of the best starting gacha characters I've seen so far. Like she can get wiggle around certain niches in fights and Single Target fights with her are nuts.
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>>543867408
What's your team?
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>>543869829
Jonkler A0, Lufel A6 and Kotone A6. Ran DPS Wonder for around the first 60% of my 160 hours before figuring out that Shields could help me out. Picked King Frost since it gives Kotone a small buff too if targeted.
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>>543864254
Bro
The game is gonna be canceled by this time next year
If you’re gonna burn money on video games, at least do it on ones that’ll still be around
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>>543870906
>b-bro d-don't s-spend y-your money f-for things y-you enjoy.
Pathetic.
>doomposting
Pathetic^2.
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>>543864254
thx for funding the servers bro
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i dont believe the sincerity of these "bros" being thrown around
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What would the next ultimate Idol?
Wonder summoning himself from a timeline where he went berserk?
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>>543876123
Them making edgy versions of gacha characters like FGO's Alter versions of Servant would odd.

Unless it's something like idk, Yu from the Accomplice ending.
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>>543876313
Fire/Nuclear Sweeper Tatsuya
Bless/Ice Buffer Maya
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>>543877412
I think they'd rather make Strega playable Idols than touching 1 or 2.
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>>543877603
Agreed. The less work it takes to transplant them into a turn-based P5 engine format, the more likely they are. Zenkichi & Sophia are the most likely out of all the spinoff characters for similar reasons, though somewhat less likely in my opinion since they're from a Musou and thus require some new animations for the turn-based format.
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>>543877921
And any p5 confidant in case they fall back on the concept plan of few of them being originally phantom thieves. Hifumi being one of them.
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>>543878057
>Phantom thief Hifumi
What would her persona be? King Arthur or any medieval royal female figure from that age?
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>>543878479
Probably something more japanese from the era where Shogi was dominant.
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Cannot wait for Aigis being a Phys atk/sweeper and falling off like Messa
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>>543879752
Or being the only gun Single-target Idol being capitalized from the lack of dedicated gun builds.
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>>543879752
On my knees begging for her to be a Gun/Pierce Idol.
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>>543879752
>>543879836
>>543879863
Aigis Orgia mode stunning her for 2 turns after her burst damage rotation
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>>543877603
They already said they're willing to make P1/P2 collabs if there's enough demand.
Making the Strega crew playable would obviously take far less effort though, yeah.
I find it strange how they seemingly refuse to make playable antagonists honestly.

>>543877921
>though somewhat less likely in my opinion since they're from a Musou and thus require some new animations for the turn-based format.
There's Sophie assets in the game's files.
Assets that they had to go out of their way to import.
It'll happen, give it time.
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>>543880319
If they are willing to make Black Mask playable then them caving to make Strega because it's less effort to make new models is believable as well.
Honestly, every consideration for new idols outside of P5x originals can be deduced solely to how much work they require:
>Metis, Zenkichi and Sophie (Models are already available, only effort required is for the kit and animations for new Highlights)
>Any character from P4 Revival who might get special attention if they are not defaulting to Rise and the first four party members, Yu included. Can get ahead of the curve by pulling directly from inhouse production to maybe even the water with its presentation

Notably lower odds are:

>Confidants from Persona 5 (Teasing with the What-Ifs of that fanbase is a good seller, only real models to be made are the phantom attires. Other post already stated Hifumi to maybe be the poster child of that idea)
>P1 and P2 characters outside of the protagonist and maybe Maya (Whole revamp needed for potentially no future proof usage in case their remake doesn't use the models)
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>>543881471
>If they are willing to make Black Mask playable
He's... uh, he's not playable.
It's kinda funny because they already referenced him in the anime recap, but alas, there's only Prince Akechi.

>>Any character from P4 Revival who might get special attention if they are not defaulting to Rise and the first four party members, Yu included.
They added all the Og PTs, they'll add all the members of SEES, and there's no doubt in my mind that if the game lives long enough, they'll add all the members of the IT as well.

But yeah, I do agree with you.
Anything that has 3d assets ready is higher chances to get in that anything that doesn't, they implied as much last year in that interview where they talked about P1 and P2, so.
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>>543882180
>>543881471
>Anything that has 3d assets ready has higher chances to get in than anything that doesn't
Ftfm.
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>>543882180
I am lowkey hoping for an SMT crossover to have Wonder lined up with Naoki blasting Freikugel across the field or Gaia-Rage the asses apart.
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>>543882579
>>543882290
>Demi-fiend and the Nahobino have better chances to get in than p1 and p2
The absolute state
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>Lv46 Den
>No more items to collect until the next level
>I don't know when will I get there
This is the point where I can start to spend my coins on weapon crystals and aromas, isn't it?
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>>543882736
Nahobino is cool.
Atleast the Tsukuyomi-version is.
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>>543882180
I think Phantom is gonna be finished by the time 6 is out.
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>>543886878
I don't know about that man.
6 is guaranteed to come out within the next 7 years.
Do you know what ATLUS gacha lasted that long? SMT DX2, with SMT being far less popular than Persona even though the latter is its spinoff.
P5X easily has the potential to last a decade if not more, they just have to not fumble it.
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I love my wife, Ayaka Sakai
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>>543887456
>P5X easily has the potential to last a decade if not more
lol
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can you guys stop playing SoS for this season so I can get to 8*
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>>543893226
>He didn't get to 8* last SOS after the whales left that tier
Oh NO NO NOO
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>>543857269
i can understand doing this for an attractive character like kasumi, wind vast, or the second round of summer alts. i can't understand doing it for this nigga
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>>543893621
>like kasumi
lol
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>>543893910
Yeah? Are you a queer or something
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>>543893621
He is attractive though.
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>>543857269
Who would you a6 from Persona 4?
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>>543895014
Yu and Rise
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>>543895068
Good choices
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>>543895014
Teddie
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>>543895014
Adachi
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>>543896029
I doubt they would even do him if they won’t even do black mask akechi.
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>borrow maxed dupe and 5* weapon dupe Ayaka
>Mad doctor starts hitting for over 500k with his attacks. Bleeds pop for 200-300k.
Okay. I never even had remotely close to 50m points in a single fight, and now this.

Meanwhile Bui...
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>>543896575
they can't do BM Akechi until the story finally reaches the casino and explains the opening
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>>543899650
You mean when _____ kills Joker and sets up this crazy series of events?
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>>543899650
Does Sumire have a Crossroads of Fate for Maruki that runs alongside her release?
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It was fun while it lasted.
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>>543900508
she does, might be wrong but one parts for her and another other parts for akechi but im not sure how much of the palace and what bosses it has
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>>543899615
What's your team like for Bui's half?
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>Gun autist
>is weak to the gun damage
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>>543901764
Hmm interesting, so there’s no crossroads of fate for the casino or shido’s ship then? Since I’m assuming Futaba is the pyramid and Haru is her dad’s palace.
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>>543900508
>>543901764
The bosses are generic Shadows (a Macabre and a Biyarkhee) as stand-ins for Maruki.
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>>543902907
yeah i couldnt find any of the casino,or shido, but m jist a global player and get this stuff from people who play the cn version on youtube mostly
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Now that the dust has settled, why did Messa flop? Even Tomohoe's banner was doing better...
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>>543901845
Motoha and Nurse with Bui. Normally granny cat is better but they won't survive. Granny gets just fucked with the weakness, and cat is.. cat. She provides 0 help making you live.

Used them in the other endgame though. That has less oppressive damage. Motoha is a good 30% score loss there. Max dupes on Motoha, too. Granny has 2, but that's all you care about outside of nuke teams.
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>>543906794
granny gives extra atk and pierce rate at a6
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>>543906564
Flopped based on what measure?
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Idol when?
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>>543911547
Can his nose be his weapon or maybe the different attendants are his weapons? What would his persona be?
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>>543913939
Mara.
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>>543911547
Wouldn’t really make sense desu, but hopefully we get idols of the attendants
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If we don't get Black Mask Akechi or Maruki, we're not getting Strega
And if we're not getting Strega, we're not getting Adachi
So I should just quit now and avoid the wasted time
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>>543918879
What would Merope be like as an Idol herself?
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>>543902965
laaaaaaaaaaame
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>>543921557
Cannot be visibly displayed in a non-Adults Only rated game.
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>>543921557
A hole shaped like Naruru
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Merope doesn't shave down there.
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>>543928242
Please God let this be true
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I love my wife, Ayaka Sakai
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>>543930398
we know 4chad
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who else takin their sweet ass time with the new story update?
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>>543938578
I haven't even started
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>>543938578
I'm done. 100% exploration in the dungeon and mementos, did the Neko quest as well. Endgame is also done. Now it's time to chill and "work" this weekend..
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fat Tomoko
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fat tits Tomoko
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>>543938578
I'm still busy getting through October releases
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>>543902965
>>543922443
It's kind of funny to do a like 80% spoiler half measure for P5
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Tomohoe, you will never be a phantom thief
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>>543952727
She's a Phantom Thief in another timeline
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>>543952835
Sorry, we're only discussing canonical events. Not fanfic scenarios
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>>543952727
She's done more than pretty much any other side character
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>>543954236
And by that I mean she's worked more wagie jobs than anyone else!
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>>543954518
Those jobs are more content than Minami, riddle, and Anderson got combined
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>>543954845
That's like bragging that Tomoko has eaten more shit than everyone else, if all she does is work part time jobs.
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I hate that we need to rush the palace boss in order to not miss out on the weekly RoR boss battle rewards. I just wanted to Take My Time.
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>>543955450
She also shows up in the story as well as having event content dedicated to her so even more there. You seem upset at an anime character mearly existing which is kinda unhinged
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Impregnating Tomoko so her fat milkers get even fatter.
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3P w/ Mont & Tomoko.
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ORA ORA IKUZE
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>>543955929
jokes on me. I did that but since I already did the 1st and 2nd palace bosses this week, i cant get any rewards for the 3rd palace.
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>>543961414
Sorry to hear that bro.
I haven't even started the new story yet and I have to work tomorrow -- I don't know if I'll make it in time before the reset.
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>beat teacher-mommy-thighs dungeon
>full clear for all the juicy collectables and clear % rewards
>realize a day later that you have to actually watch the memory shard P5 japanimation scenes to get the extra gold rolls
>try to skip, no good, have to play the full thing
I have unironically have had to use 3 separate game sessions to divide this tedious bullshit out. Why would I need to watch shit about the main game if I've clearly already played it?
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>>543965902
Just tap it every couple of minutes while you’re doing something else
You don’t actually have to watch them
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>>543966253
Can I answer a short multiple choice quiz about the events of the main game, to prove I was paying attention the whole ding dang time, so I can just skip the animations?
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>>543859741
What's his appeal? I don't know anything about him.
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>>543968208
you're straight and normal, so you'll never understand why fags love him
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>>543968208
the edge
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Holy shit the weekly katayama fight is just a nobrain full auto no mechanics tank and spank? No immune stages, no random mind control, just do damage and heal damage?
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>>543857269
Nice, you unlocked his now usable 2nd form.
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>>543969187
I'd like to spank katayama weekly
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they should release a weapon skin that requires spending $250 to get
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>>543974221
/hsrg/ is two doors down
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>>543974402
fuck you
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>>543974402
I think it's a good idea for this game.
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>>543974221
but why?
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>>543976835
To reward true fans of the game.
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>>543977123
Eh, I guess I can understand that. A lot of gachas have a VIP system with bonuses for the more you spend.
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>>543965902
The scenes are short anyways though
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electric weak bosses are suffering. what do i even do for this shit?
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>>543985940
Just get your 20M+ on the brown girl boss and don't give a shit about the second one like me.
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>>543985940
shouldn't have skipped Yui lmao
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>>543986068
Baal is a guy
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>>543986068
I'm talking about SOS retard
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>>543985940
You run your nuke team and outscore yui anyway
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Messa is the best unit yet
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Being forced to watch the P5 animations is making me both remember why I hated Mona and hate him even more
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So how exactly was Kira nerfed or bosses changed to nerf him?
I want a history lesson on this.
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>>543933475
Cuteness to rival Tomoko and Musubi
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Where'd the shitposters for the 110 banners go anyway?
With the rate still being the same 0.4% on both banner, and the guaranteed standard every 160 as though you lost a 50/50 anyway, it seems to just simply be better for everyone but confident luckchads.

Or was that all just empty shit flinging until the next exploitable controversy to stir up?
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>>543992419
I'd imagine once they revealed the rate would be buffed to 0.4% everyone correctly reevaluated the 110 as the superior banner.
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>>543933475
Who's this knockoff?
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>>543991571
they started making bosses resistant to DoTs that scale with the targets max HP so he couldn't just nuke every SoS/nightmare boss
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>>543987097
This is anime.
I think even in Persona, Lucifer has apparently been a girl before, and he's an owl right now for some reason.
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>>543992204
I'd rather she get a synergy than the other ugly little cat girl
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>>543992958
Damn, between that and being terrible on Auto and having 0 AOE buttons (why the fuck would anyone ever change modes and de-stack your bleeds when that's his entire relevancy?), it's a bad day for anyone who wanted to give him a chance.
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>>543933475
>>543992943
Why IS there a 2nd homeless cat girl now too?
Did we need a 2nd one when the first didn't even get development?
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Any advice or team setupsfor the trumpeter boss in the last floor of Chemdah?
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>>543998348
I cheesed it with my A1R0 Fox.
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>>543998964
I keep forgetting Wonder can be you designated healer, I have fox at A0 though.

Whats Wonders best healing persona or persona/skill combo?
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>>543999309
I think I used Sarasvati at that point; not sure if the Rank VII ice healer is better or not, but if I ever were to use Fox again, I think I'd use the ice healer lady.
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>>543999590
That worked! Substituted Fox with Queen
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Hoom
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It's a bit funny to note that while girls make up the majority of Phantom Idols, the canon team currently has boys outnumber the girls 4-2.
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Is there an updated version of Picrel?
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>>544007919
and it's missing the characters exclusive to rhe other endings
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>>543992419
Whered all the 110 shitposters go? They only changed the banner to make it better.
You answered your own question anon.
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>>543993219
NTA, but his buffs gave him HUGE increases in his multipliers. Not the dot one. The regular one. The second skill 1 got like tripled (made even with the second skill 2), and the highlight doubled, too. I'm not sure if it was able to trigger his additional damage before either. If not, it's more like tripled.

In essence his second skill 2 is completely worthless now, but he is really strong alternating the first skill 2 and second skill 1 once 10 stacks are there.
Think of him as Makoto, but without real downtime once the bleed stacks are there. Currently the best single target nuker in the game by quite a margin, though making extremely good use out of S-Moko and Ayaka, our best supports, does also help a lot.
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>>543993219
Made a little clip and took some screenshots for damage.

The actual % damage from the almighty is already pathetic (15k per proc) here, while the lion share of the damage comes from his phys damage bleed. At the top you see the first damage proc of the bleed and then see it grow to the second damage to the right. You see the added score. Because PHYS gives double score, you can see that the 15k has to be almighty, and the phys bleed dot is about 112k. This one DOES NOT CARE about max HP, it's just solely from your own stats.

Below is a second skill 1 use (aka Ripper mode) right before this proc, so the sum of this with the above is the damage he deals from one attack and bleed in a single turn. The max HP scaling almighty damage may as well not exist here.

tl;dr: He is a beast even ignoring the almighty damage in his dot. Also note that this is turn 2, and as such not full power. (Elucidator shenanigans)
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>>543992419
It turns out people stop complaining about a problem after it's fixed. Shocker.
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>one guy removed his a6 fox for a6 messa
FUUUUUUCK HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO CLEAR THE WEEKLY BOSS NOW
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>>544022602
... Use Messa? Wait I'm confused why would you need fox this week?
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>>544024575
lil bro wants to auto the weekly palace 2 boss fight
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>>544024575
Maybe he's a retard and he's talking about the palace boss?
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If you're gonna whale for an A6 do you use the 110 or 50/50? I'm hearing both answers and don't know who to believe.
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>>544024721
>>544024781
Motherfuckers will face ~3 fights total per week they can't/shouldn't auto and will fall to despair.
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>>544026326
sheesh
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>>544025064
5050 is probably better if you're going to whale for ALL of the a6s.
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>>544025105
Gacha game players when they have to play the game
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>>544029220
It's not. There's virtually no difference. I'm also not trusting the RNG in this game whatsoever, so the less influences things, the better.
Yes I have Bui.
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>>544032008
why would it not be better? if your goal is everything and you don't care what you get since you'll get it all eventually. then 80 rolls gets you to the next 5 star quicker.
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>>544033126
Because there's something called an average, and you will get the exact same shit on average. Short term you may be more or less lucky with a coinflip, but long term it'll be exactly the same.
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I love my wife, Nishimori Haruna
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>>544035858
we know 4pedo
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>get a decent score in SOS
>think i can do better with a different comp
>reset then score millions lower
>can't regain old score with original comp
just kill me now
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>>544038220
Thanks for funding our based fiction you seething zoomer tourist
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I love my husband, Kira Kitazato
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Does Futaba get powercrept by Ange?
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I love my wife, Ayaka Sakai
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>>544043682
according to tier lists futaba is trash
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>>544043682
You'll need 3 elucidators in the future anyway
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>>544043682
shes atleast a bit better but futabas still really good
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>>544044097
>3 elucidators in the future
For what?
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>>544044624
guild boss will have 3 fights instead of just 2
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>>544040038
how about you stop caring about that shit?
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>>544043682
Yes and no. Ange is a monster thats too good at everything and lets you rewind time itself for a double nuke turn on your dps (you can do this TWICE on A6). However, you need atleast 2 navigators for sos/guildboss so you will not drop futaba anyway.
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>>544008786
I did a sheet for my personal use inspired by it.
Only thing missing are the patch numbers, but they don't have a purpose if you're aware that every character is added 2 or 3 weeks after the latest one.
Higher quality: https://files.catbox.moe/7qiu47.jpg
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>>544044715
not him but thats only really for people who chase the highest score for guild battles, not many people are going to want to pull 3 navis just for that
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>>544043682
the bitch in the wheelchair power creeps our girl?
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>>544045382
It’s kind of annoying as a gaychad that we have Messa, Futaba (not a guy but must pull), and then Cherish. Back to back must pulls. Then months without any guys until Akechi. SPREAD OUT THE GUYS ATLUS.
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>>544045382
>10 back to back limiteds
lmao
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>>544045382
Thanks.
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RIKO-SENPAI
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I’m sorry, but he’s based as fuck.
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>>544046570
HAS AN UNTAMED BUSH
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>>544047160
we love katayama here actually
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>>544047556
quoted the wrong person sorry
>>544047160
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>>544045812
They are doing you a favor, letting you save up for A6 makoto
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>>544045405
You'd only pull 2 really, Futaba and Ange.
Wind is free and Phoebe a standard so you'll get them over time.
Then when we get to Ange we'll have about 6 months to enjoy them before reaching Fuuka.

>>544047160
He's literally a parasite and the story straight up you tells you so.
And eventually, he'll reap what he sowed.
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>>544047785
You know damn well that faggot probably shaves his weird neapolitan pubes while Riko has a big beautiful bush
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I love her, I wish she was real
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i'm not schizo
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>>544049339
why is she dressed so scandalously, she’s a teacher
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>>544050787
probably something to do with her delinquent past
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>>544043768
we know 4chad
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>yoshitsune deals less damage than summer tomoko
i think i got memed on
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>>544052148
wonder dps will always be shit unless you have bosses the specifically shill him while reducing the damage of other characters
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>>544052148
Why would you run a DPS Wonder anyway?
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>>544052148
>>544053207
why would you even use wonder desu
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>>544050787
She already normally wears a rather tight top that accentuates her bust. She's proud of her figure and rightfully not afraid to flaunt it.
If anything, it's a bit odd that her normal outfit completely covers her lower body, considering the whole Thunder Leg thing.
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>>544053607
I don't. I only use auto-battle when it's his turn and then immediately turn it off
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>>544043682
Futaba's main point is the epic 60% def shred if you hit a weakness. (which she can semi force on turn 3 and 6). Opens up team building.

You need to understand that already now, and never changing is that 100% def shred (or extremely close to it) is an absolute must.
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>>544052148
>yoshitsune deals less damage than summer tomoko
Sounds like a (passive) skill(s) issue to me.
What passives did you give him, what dagger are you using and which characters are you running Wonder with?
Yoshi hits pretty hard if properly built and when ran in a team that buffs up Wonder, just like any other DPS character.
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>>544008786
Bui 2 is a nuke assassin
Mitsuru is an ice assassin
Fuuka is a navigator

That’s it
There’s not that much to change
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Katayama's fat fucking milkers.
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>>544056719
yum
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Haruna’s huge wobbling clapcakes
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>official twitter posting sexual things about kira
MAKE HIM ROMANCEABLE THEN YOU FUCKS
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>>544061504
new art is cute too btw
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So what is the theory about Wonder? Why aren't his parents visible, even if they text him once in a while? Is he even real?
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>>544066813
They’re on vacation dipshit
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is there some trick to palace 3 boss phase 3? it deals way too much damage for my healer + wonder to keep up and not run out of SP
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>>544067418
your minami?
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>>544067418
maybe try and get some sp recovery cards for your healer and guard on turns that you can get away with without healing to recover sp
also you could try run an extra healer/guardian
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I love my wife, Ayaka Sakai
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>>544067418
>is there some trick to palace 3 boss phase 3?
Gigantomachia? Yeah, hers hits like a truck.
Guard.
The game basically tells you to.
Also take a healer with you so you can quickly heal your party afterward.
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>>544052148
Yeah. That's what you get for trying to treat the live service gacha game like a mainline Persona game, and listen to Reddit's advice.
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>>544070068
healing is for pussies
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>>544061861
giwtwm
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>>544066813
His parents are trapped within a loop in a previous timeline. Thankfully, the family's bank account is also trapped within the loop so all bills will be paid for forever.
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>>544071898
All sane people wish the same
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>>544061861
It'd be nice if whoever prompted this at least tried to get it to make the guy look like Nagisa
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do you have a 5* at A6 /vg/? if you don't, do you plan to ever get one?
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>>544073802
i dont have the kind of money to spend that much just to get one character to a6 sadly
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>>544073379
He's generic faceless black haired Asian man designed for self insert
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>>544073802
Everyone will have Morgana, Ryuji, Ann, Yaoling, and Haruna at A6 eventually since they're the units you get spooped by if you lose a 50/50
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>>544074009
you really overestimate the pull count
>doing 5050
lol
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>>544074009
The new meta is getting an standard 5* awareness every 165 pulls... and whatever scraps you get via gold tickets.
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>>544073802
If I did go that far for a unit it'd be my wife Tomoko. I do have her at A1 though after winning 3 50/50s for her, her A1, and her weapon
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>>544075056
Based Tomoko husband
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>>544075056
You're mogging my A2R0 Smoko. Kinda tempted to blow some of those card selectors from the event, but I don't know how much longer I'll keep using her.
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>>544073802
I really want to A6 Mont and Door-kun. I'll probably get Mont to A2 at least through her banners and A6 her through cog shards, which I hopefully will have enough of by the time she's made available through them. Then by the time Door comes around, I'll have hoarded enough to get him juiced up.
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>>544075719
>A2 at least through her banners and A6 her through cog shards
>which I hopefully will have enough of by the time she's made available through them
What the fuck are you smokin' bro? You know you need 60 of those shards to get an awareness, yeah?
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>>544075647
She'll be a permanent party of my main group, her 4-star version was for all of the story up until Shadow Miyazawa since her weakness kept giving him 1 Mores.

I do kind of wish though that she at least had the option to use her regular PT outfit like Nagisa and Shun. She can use her regular version's 5-star weapon so why not have an outfit toggle too?
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Stop the count. RIGHT NOW
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>>544075876
I'm hoping events will give some.
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>>544075647
Healer with big def shred and EHR + other damage buffs will stay relevant for quite a long while.

Unfortunately you can only have one. Messa wants her, and there are many others who will want her (haru, Rin NY and also 4* like the curse dude)
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>>544076187
Anon, why are you bothering with this when there's still 11 whole days before the end of the season?
You're absolutely going to fall down the ladder as more people do their SoS in the last few days of the season, specially when right now you only made it to the later half of the Top 1000.
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>>544066813
They just hate him.
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>>544073802
Smoko and Chord because I'm straight.
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>>544077958
How does the scoring work on their rating anyway?
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>>544079049
Because I felt like playing it and I don't expect to make top 1000 anyway
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summer howler
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>>544080994
Beach anal
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>>544079474
A character that has all their skills leveled to 10, meets all the stat "thresholds" on that screen, has a maxed out 5 star weapon and is level 80 will be at 100. Any character/weapon dupes you pull also add to this number until you reach a max of 130.
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>>544083932
>need to level useless skills like Queen's heal
lame
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>>544084093
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>>544056719
She's made my future pull list.

>>544008786
>Futaba
>Haru
>Kotone
>Kasumi
>Akechi
>Kumi
>Yui Mk2
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>>544083932
I messed around a bit with cards since the ones she had originally were auto-equipped and managed to get my Moko's score above 10k, not too bad
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>>544075997
>at least had the option to use her regular PT outfit
Same here.
>>544081703
lmao
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God dammit. The AI is too fucking stupid to beat the Katayama boss on auto even after pulling back the difficulty to Level 70 -- this is using the same team that I used to easily beat it the first time during the story. Absolute bullshit.
I might try again, but with Wonder only equipped with Norn and no other personas to hopefully force it to use the shield every turn (which is overkill, but better than nothing).
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>>544087381
I used a borrowed SMotoha plus my SMoko plus Chord plus Puppet and managed to get it to auto on 80
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>>544087381
They had to have changed something at some point, auto used to actually hit the right sword and now it refuses to
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>>544087735
I meant to say this as in the auto used to be smart but now it goes full retard
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These are whale only, right? 750 jewels for one seems too much for me
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>>544087840
What should I use the ink on?
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>>544087729
Good call. I was using Wind; switching to Puppet should help with auto as well.
>>544087735
>>544087821
For sure. If I can borrow a Marian, that's usually enough to let me tank the hits due to hitting the wrong sword, but if not, I need to turn off the auto battle for that part.
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>>544088136
Same I switched to puppet because Riko failed
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Is my phone dying, or is the audio in this new part of the Palace scuffed? It's like the audio is stacked in a queue, and if one sound effect gets delayed, everything else gets pushed back several seconds too.
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>>544087821
>I meant to say this as in the auto used to be smart but now it goes full retard
The funny thing is, I was on the fence with Kira.
But on top of not being able to AOE Bleed, the fact that I know on Auto he will do that whole Ripper shit and Unbleed rather than Bleedmaxxing... nope, screw that.
Being Auto unfriendly is definitely a valid consideration in a game like this.

>>544088136
>>544088326
Riko does jack shit for the fight anyway, should always be on someone else. Riko's only gimmick is farming Downs.
To that end, Summer Tomoko would also be a boon since she is massively auto friendly for healing and not neglecting to heal.
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>>544089363
>Riko's only gimmick is farming Downs
Nah, I like her damage increase as well -- especially since I don't have Phoebe.
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>>544088681
There's a lot of audio desync in the later half of Katayama's Palace yeah.
They're already aware of it.
>(Updated Oct 24, 2025)
>• Voices in Katayama's Palace in Main Story Chapter 3: Unconditional Love Phase 2 may be delayed
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>>544090051
I mean she does have buffs but I feel like Bar Hag and Gyaru Hag are better in that capacity.
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>>544087840
pretty much, i just get the jewels
>>544087897
its probably best to spend the ink on getting the best cards you can for your favorite character
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satisfying being able to do these now
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I love my wife, Ayaka Sakai
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Is Skadi with Makajamaon the best multi-target velvet trial cheeser? That move only has a 32.6% rate, but it seems to be the best I can find unless there is a Persona with a unique skill that is better.
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>>544095390
That's the best, yeah.
Make sure to max out Wonder's schema for ailment accuracy, and give as many passives to boost Skadi's ailment accuracy as you can.
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>>544095390
>>544096241
Is there a reason to use Skadi over Chernobog?
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>>544096492
Getting Chernobog up to speed is more expensive, and you have to spend RPIV to buy him first where as Skadi can be easily fused.
But if you have Chernie and you're willing to throw some seals at him he's definitely better.
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>>544096492
Shit. Did I brick myself by investing into Skadi?

Skadi:
>25.4% ailment accuracy boost at max overclock
Chernobog:
>34.9% increase... and better bonuses as well (especially as far as the velvet trials are concerned)

Damn. At least I got lucky and only had to spend one Mothman pendant for Makajamaon on Skadi...
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>>544097132
Speaking of Mothman... why does it seem like everything requires the blue RPII coins?
I have 825 orange, 14,460 purple, 1,520 blue, and 21,390 white.
Are there any enemies in palaces/mementos that drop Mothmen seals?
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>The Master Pond is still bugged and 99% of your catches will still be Best Char
Very cool.
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>>544097637
Don't know about any Mothman drops.
I've been farming these 2 spots in the 1st palace for Jack o Lanterns and Hua Pos for the Yaksini fusion. It takes a lot longer than just running through Palace 2 for the daily exp/konpaku, so I wouldn't recommend doing this unless you really like grinding.
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>>544100674
you could just fuse decarabia seals if you wanna turn medal 1s into medal 2s. saves you from doing this cringe farming method.
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What's the best team for side 2 this week if I don't have Bui and already borrowed the doctor for side 1?
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>>544103548
>decarabia
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>>544104512
what are you trying to say?
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>>544105103
Decarabia uses 110 medal 1s to make 20-something medal 2s. Yaksini uses 60 to make 24.
Decarabia also happens to use Yaksini's seal, as well as another seal that you could've converted into 6 or so medal 2s.
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>>544104510
Sepia curse shenanigans.
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>>544105620
oh real? Guess I've been fucking up this whole time.
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That was a long nap
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Did people complain about having to do math and remember things for part time jobs? I haven't had to do shit in months.
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>>544108176
>Their face when the game wants them to add 2 numbers at a cashier job
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>completely cleared Path of Pemdas
>never killed a treasure demon because Wonder and none of my party members had curse skills
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>>544116503
Shiet. Thanks for reminding me bro.
I didn't have any of that either when I first encountered that thing, but now I have Alice and a fairly beefed Joker.
Forgot where that gem dude is chillin, however...
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>>544107636
Mating pressing Riko Tanemura.
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>>544116503
Your craftable elemental attack items?
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>>544116503
Your Sepia? Your Messa?
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Messa is pretty fun for the 2 weeks we're allowed to use his full power (This is at A0)
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>>544117435
Messa has curse skills?
>almighty
Might as well suggestion Daisoujou then.
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>>544117808
It’s because very few people are pulling for him. That’s why the percentage is high for those that do
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>>544104512
>>544105620
>>544105921
I forgot which it was but there are some Medal 1s whose skills refund Medal 2s directly, and requires a LOT less fusing the starfish... because it requires no fusing the starfish.
But it is phenomenally tedious regardless of which you do.
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>>544125098
I wish they added a fuse multiple option. Having to skip the animation every time is cringe.
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I haven't seen Chihaya's fortune telling daily activity for months now...
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>>544128787
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>>544136649
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>>544136649
It depends entirely on the content you're doing.
It's really strange how people think every character has a completely inflexible team, and then just fucking dies to damage, or gets wrecked by a mental debuff.
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>>544136840
what the fuck is Nian
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>>544120043
somehow i doubt that yui is more popular than mesa.
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>>544139761
However bad you may think she is now, she's both a girl and AT LEAST functional going forward. Messa has like 2 updates to live before bosses become immune to his tricks on top of having the m*le stigma working.
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>>544138365
https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Nian
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>>544087381
>only equipped with Norn
wonder's hp/atk/def are based on the 3 personas he has equipped. you're seriously crippling him and norn by doing that. you should always have a second and third persona even if just for a stat stick.
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>overclock yoshi to max
>actually does damage now
i didn't realize how strong his passive was
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>>544140079
>Origin
>Chinese Mythology
Not surprised, but still lol.
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>>544092042
we know 4chad
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>>544061504
Thanks god China is gatekeeping all the fagshit.
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>>544147328
the weirdest part are people claiming they're not rolling for summer motoha and summer tomoko saying it's gross cause of their ages but then demanding summer shun. like wtf...
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>>544147775
they just like shun as a character
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>>544148714
Never mind, I was retarded.
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>>544147775
>the weirdest part are people claiming they're not rolling for summer motoha and summer tomoko saying it's gross cause of their ages but then demanding summer shun. like wtf...
Welcome to dealing with faggotry.
They'll call any heterosexual relationship grooming or use any means to undermine it, while encouraging entirely unhealthy relationships themselves.

>>544147328
>Thanks god China is gatekeeping all the fagshit.
In short, this.
We just don't live in the era anymore when a little bit of yuri, traps, etc was just a minor harmless part of anime culture. Now everything is "representation" and shit and needs to be taken super seriously and emphasized at the expense of normalcy.
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>>544138365
You know those Chinese New Year lion dance costumes? That one.
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>>544147775
>>544150734
I think it’s just that people want 5* versions of the 4* male party members too. And summer variants seems to be the best way to do it.
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>>544117808
I already mentioned this earlier, but most of his damage is actually not falling off.
Of course he can't beat shilled shit, because it's HEAVY in this game, but it's not like his damage just.. disappears. He is a harder hitting and easier to use Makoto.
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>>544153259
>He is a harder hitting and easier to use Makoto.
False
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>>544153259
nah Fire Makoto is still better
the Nuke one is shit tho
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I love my wife, Ayaka Sakai
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>>544158717
I'm honestly not sure. We don't have him, but from just looking at the kit.. it can't be by much, if at all.
Might have better supports though that don't work well with Messa.

The Messa buffs were serious.
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>inherited the companio cause lead was inactive
it says no one in the guild has been inactive for more than 3 days so that can't be right. i don't want this responsibility and i can't give it back cause i have no idea which nagisa kamisiro was the original lead. what do i do /vg/?
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>homos shilling their flop
many such cases
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>>544152791
Your WindVast?
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>>544139761
Yui is way more popular than Messa tho?
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>>544160720
Is it an active one? If so, just stay that and do the normal routine you've always did.
Otherwise, dump it on someone who first responds to your inquiry in the guild chat.
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>>544161609
I like the design but the voice ruins her for me, it pitches to a level only dogs can hear
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I'm not rolling Messa
I'm not rolling Cherish
I'm not rolling Crow
I'm not rolling Door
I'm not rolling Akihiko
Give me waifus or give me death.
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homoflops stay flop
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>>544161869
Well, in essence you are Yui's dog so...
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>>544161958
>T. Motoha got nearly 3x as many rolls as T. Tomoko
Tomokobros...
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>>544161958
RIDDLE'S NUMBER ONE YEAAAAHHH
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>>544162246
That's not what people mean by "grooming", anon...
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>>544161783
Yeah, it's fairly active. I guess I'll just do what the previous lead did which was kick out inactives every now and then. It's just weird that it got switched to me when the member list is showing that no one has been offline for more than 3 days and no one has quit.
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>>544161958
so i guess chord really was more popular than queen
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monpo anno soupo
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>>544162449
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yaolings stinky mengpo pussy
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>>544165091
sheeftai yokai deeeees
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>>544165669
smelly funtime sweet-n-sour pubes
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>>544166979
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how does Wonder break fans by just pondering them
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>>544168432
How does Wonder gain intelligence by thinking about his friends on the train?
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>>544171092
I managed to be more welcoming than I typically am
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Where's the treasure demon in Chemdah?
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>>544171092
reflecting is a key part of strengthening
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Yaoling's sideway pussy.
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>>544165669
It's pronounced "muhng-paw" btw.
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I just made a messa
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>ran out of turn on the story boss second eye phase
I'm washed..
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Is there anything like the 110 banner for weapons?
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>>544179331
No.
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what now?
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>>544180069
You're going to cause a meltdown being that based
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>>544180069
You lost.
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>>544180069
IDIOT
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Is there even any 5 star unit worth A6ing?
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>>544180748
wind vast or futaba
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>>544150734
>yuri
Anyone who wants that is a cuck regardless. Not sure why you'd be surprised communities that have that shit end up being pozzed
>>544152791
Western persona fans are not "people" they are tourists. They hate everything about persona, they hate the age gap relationships, they hate young problematic romances, they hate the fact it's set in a school and not in a college, they hate that there's no fag shit etc. Most 5* units will be girls because straight men spend the most money on gacha games simple as. Yeah some people will roll for bro characters but overall lots of people won't or at the very least they'd rather roll for mainline series bros because those games have more story and as such people feel closer to them.
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>>544180069
Holy mega based. Notice how the anti tomoko schizo never posted his A6R6 Motoha
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>>544180069
>can see the border of another 5-star A6
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>>544180748
Ange > WindV > Navi in that order
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>>544180069
Uninstall because you won the game.
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>>544182029
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>>544180748
Marian, only when she becomes a gold ticket girl though
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>>544153259
>easier to use Makoto
Come on, that's blatantly false and you'd know it if you used Messa at all.
Makoto's skill rotation is S3>S3>S3 and the occasional Crash Out/Highlight whereas Messa has a more involved skill rotation.
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>>544180069
based
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>>544180069
fuck off schizo attentionwhore
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Uh-oh time for a melty
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the anti-tomoko schizo is always so desperate
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>>544161958
>Less people rolled for Tomoko than BUI

LMAO
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>>544183504
why
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>>544184164
bruh look at those titties
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>>544184164
NEED MILK
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>>544185153
does it even matter when half of the roster lost to Marian and Phoebe?
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>>544186251
yes
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>>544186251
does it even matter when Smohoyo's banner has been around way longer
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>>544186251
You lost.
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>>544187134
>straight up lying
blud is desperate...
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>>544161870
based
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>>544183504
holy
how much have you spent so far?
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I hope we get an actual Halloween event next year. I need more events and more chances to spend time with Tomoko
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>>544190767
Illegal in china. Never happening.
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>>544190570
That's a whale that added me in the first week
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if you have r5 chord, is departure and control better?
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>>544192761
Yeah.
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>>544191535
Is it? I thought only Korea was schizo about Halloween
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>>544161958
>only 700 jokers
I thought people rerolled for him but I guess most people didn't
>standards getting that many rolls
Jesus man I guess SEGA was right to spit on western players
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I love my wife, Ayaka Sakai
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>>544194062
Wasn't the site made after the original Joker banner expired?
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>>544194346
Pretty sure it just checks your pull history right? Not active pulls?
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>>544161958
What are these based on?
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Riko has an insane thigh gap
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>>544195106
https://lufel.net/pull-tracker/global-stats/?lang=en&v=2.8.5
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>>544195106
Pull history of people who submitted their data I believe
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>>544184035
Messa presses S1 once and then S2 for the rest of the fight, I'd say they're about the same level as unga bunga
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My weekly missions, tasks and Assam tea got reset, but the recollection quest didn't, what the hell?
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>Had a guaranteed limited 5* from losing my last 50/50
>Just said "fuck it" and decided to go for Messa
>Got him in 36 rolls
Pleasantly surprised. Adios 80 roll.
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>>544196454
gz
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>>544195281
She really is best girl
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>>544195281
She's a teenage girl.
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why is Ayaka so smol
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>Nagisa says a whole sentence in a flashback
weird
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>>544198558
Because shes perfect



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