They want the manga forms SO BAD edition!Latest:A new game and two projects will be announced at the Genkidamatsuri event on January 26 2026FighterZ new balance update is outJump: Gathering announcedGekishin Squadra is outGEKISHIN SQUADRA SS1 GOTENKSyoutu.be/jYFQSFyW6xAFIGHTERZ SS4 DAIMA GOKUyoutu.be/fVtdkNqbiKE?t=96SPARKING ZERO DLC 3youtu.be/RsrbOrCaTBUXV2 FUTURE SAGA CH.3:youtu.be/XPbEhEADsYMyoutu.be/WYNsTMcQBg8>Useful links:rentry.org/dft79XV2 news:>Future Saga 3 DLC on the way, release date TBA>Festival of Universes 3 ended, both Universe 6 and 11 won twice between 4 platforms.SDBH News/Resources:>SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24>SDBH Database: www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/>Deck Autism: rentry.org/sdbhdecklistDBSDV news:>You can have a team of up to 8 characters (7 cards and an avatar)>3 card types: Impact, Rush, and Boost>CAA/TAA have been renamed as Action Skills>If you collect all 7 dragon balls in-game and summon Shenron, you'll pull an guaranteed Super Rare card>Avatars can also be Namekians or Fridges>If you max out your SDBH avatar's level and transfer them over to Superdivers, you can unlock default SDBH avatar skins for your Superdivers avatar>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefileIf you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.Kakarot:>Daima DLC Part 2 will release in early 2026DB The Breakers:>Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry herehttp://xenoverse.booru.org/Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)Thank youLAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>543731764
>>543961393Kino thread. The manga is overhated.
>>543961393Those forms are as bad in XV2 as they were in the manga, it's impressive.
Happy 89th birthday, Goku.
>>543961934Her birthday is today? Neat.
>>543961393They're doing this on purpose, aren't they?
Alright what fucking keybind am I hitting that's locking my skills to enemy players?
>>543961549nah Toyotaro just isn't a good artist
>>543962173That's a menu option, no?
>>543961934she can push to 100
can we not be gigantic fucking faggots for half this thread?
>>543960341>GT SS4 instead of daimaalready trash art
>>543962447granted, half the thread won't be. The other half still can though
>>543962594Based
>>543962418I'll be mashing buttons and all of a sudden my skills lock on a target and can't be moved with mouse, no idea what the fuck is going on
>>543962742It's not even half, it's literally like 1 or 2 autistic schizos.
Powerful
>>543962447That's entirely up to one or two entirely soulless niggers.Here's something t9 talk about. Have anyone read this? Is there an English version online? The version I was reading is only translated up to chapter 7.This shit predicted the future. There's totally not Rhymus here with another Daima reference. This is like 10 years old too.
>There's totally not Rhymus
>>543964083Ratku is stronger.
>>543962447what bothers you?
>>543964735Post her with a black guy
>>543964735Hot
>>543961934Will she outlive us all
>>543965451Every time you raise your arms, you're sending a bit of your lifespan to her.
>>543961393Why is Frieza a black man now?
>>543965609she needs it more
>>543961393what would happen to DIMPS if their devs just decided to add the manga forms? Legal problems?? Naruto games were allowed to add manga content that anime didn't adapt yet.
>>543966995>Legal problems??Seems like it. Maybe Bandai only got the rights for anime characters? Or maybe Shueisha just doesn't want them to use DBS characters and forms. It's specifically DBS characters too, because Gine was in games long before she was added in Broly, and IIRC, it's because Gine is more of a Bird Studio than Shueisha? I'm really not sure...
>>543961393Note is pure!
>>543967720Pure sex!
>>543962030>That's longer than Universe Mission in its entirety. Heroes is a very short thing. For what little page time each Heroes character got, they had as good of a characterization as you could have given them.They have more interactions in the games and they're not really any better there. A few characters even benefit more from the manga, such as Putine. Meanwhile, Mechikabura is the most boring villain possible no matter what.
>>543966995Manga rights and Game rights are done through two seperate companies now, and both companies are currently at a stalemate. That's why XV2 has these temu-versions of the manga forms.
>>543967521Freddy my fucking head is gone
>>543968425>nowEven before all of this started, DBS manga characters just weren't added in games. On the Naruto side of things, I think CC2 had to pull strings to manage to add manga content early. Kaguya debuted in a game before she did in the anime...
>>543968425Is making bargain bin versions of manga forms and throwing some purple on them really that easier than just adding recently orphaned content from Heroes? They don't even have to shit them out of a portal, they could introduce them to the series organically and even change the designs and attacks.
>>543974461If Dimps really is making XV3, there's a pretty good chance they might be saving Heroes content for that game, if they really want to differentiate it from XV2.
>>543974930>XV3 uses Xeno Pan as the TP guide rather than Trunks
Is XV2 worth it for a new player or will it be a gindy nightmare to start in 2025?
>>543976427Last time I played I remember it being a total slog to get SSB and SSBE. And getting the newer attacks was always worse because of the unreasonable PQ requirements and the retarded and suicidal ally AI PLUS the RNG cucking you out of them when you could fulfil everything.Not sure if any of that changes, but I'm not even much of a fan anyway. I think I'd only play again if the final future saga chapter really does lead into XV3.
>>543976427Just use a save editor to dodge the grind.
anyone else have trouble getting 100k lately? I had a bunch but now I can't seem to get the ones I still need despite going like 10/0
>>543961934Happy birthday to Granny Goku, Goku's worst voice actor.
>>543981142Try to have long matches. For whatever reason, the longer the match, the more likely it is for you to get 100k.
>>543981260Based
>Having a match where we get a disadvantage at mid point of the match>Buu is level 7 and basically gives up>Keeps flying backwards at base>We somehow still manage to kill bosses>Buu at points pings us to fall back to be annoying, clearly telling us to give up>Once we no longer have a tower disadvantage, Buu decides to help out>Leaves to grind a bit>We kill everyone, immediately go attack their tower>Win>Still report Buu for wasting time and being annoying
>>543984320A well played Buu can be a real gamer changer now IMO. A Buu utilizing his heals well can easily reverse situations.
>>543984962Yes, but that Buu stayed on the base flying backwards, never helping until we did most of the heavy lifting that almost guaranteed our victory. Initially I dismissed it because I assumed he was glitching and trying to escape a match he was in, or just glitching. But once he was flying like that for entire minutes, then was clearly just fucking around, then spam pings to be annoying... No excuses. To make it worse, he did save me once at an earlier point of the match, but then he just gave up!
>>543985362Yeah, I'm just saying it's a shame he gave up.
>Both DMG players go into one lane, leaving you alone in the otherWhy are some people like this? There are times where the goddamn Tech or Tank had to hop over to my lane. It's like some DMG players can't read the goddamn room.
So the best cards for Trunks are Snowball/Barrier/Pursuer right? If he gets in a fight he'll have to finish it or die since he's so frail, so he might as well mostly focus on the offensive, but have barrier to live for a little longer. I also wonder who the best one between him and 18 is... I get the feeling he's stronger since his damage is so high, but if he doesn't finish a fight he's dead, while 18 has a better zoning option, and can use skill 2 to try to escape...
>>543961549 Nowhere close and deserves far more, it's disgustingly overrated by the dimwits-midwits of this fanbase who never look at it with a proper critical eye, and are frankly too emotionally invested in it for some reason to do so. They're such brazen hypocrites as well, it's nausiating talking to them about it. The anime deserves PLENTY of criticism, but the sheer amount the mangastans that will just deflect all criticism of Super squarly onto it and ignore all problems of the manga is dizzying, even if the things people complain about are in both
>>543962173>>543963334are you facing against a Caulifla?her AoE kicks and her blasting ult debuffs you with a provoke, forcing your attacks/skills to target her if she's in range
>>543961393>shartnga in the opyou're disgusting, never post again
>>543997613I know you were most likely banned from there, but go back.>>>/dbs/
>>543997613Fuck off, spic.
>/dbs/ obsession>the usual suspect starts samefagging again
>>543961393Xenoverse devs aren’t even trying to hide it at this point.
>>543961393that does not look like Black Freeza. these niggas are reaching for engagement.
>>543992376Maybe that's it then, fuck I thought I was going crazy. Only bothered to play her once to start getting memories
>>543961393 I hate that FWOO shit Toyo does multiple times of characters exhaling with their mouths agape after transforming, something Toriyama never once ever drew. Like can you recall Goku or anyone transforming in DBZ then going FWOO, it's just stupid and not needed at all
>>544007638Yeah, It's really annoying when you're playing a hero with skills that can be used to escape.
>boss appears on my lane>one guy from the enemy teams switches lane to mine>meanwhile my partner goes to the opposite lane for no reason at all
>>543961934ONE HUNDRED100ONE HUNDRED100MASAKO NOZAWA WILL STILL BE SCREAMING AS GOKU WHEN SHE'S 100HAPPY 89TH BIRTHDAY!!!!!
I hate that Fortnite has a better Android 18 model than Gekishin Squadra has
>>544019947Fartnut's only purpose is to generate characters for PORN. Everything else is purely accidental.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZZeOh2DL7MWas he the best plagiarist that ever existed?Can anyone deny that his songs weren't better than the originals he ripped off from?Sure it's disgusting behavior but...He kinda did make some absolute fucking bangers out of some of these songs he stole from, way more than the originals
>>544020765 What's this ripped off from again?
Holy fuck, just had an absolutely retardedly bugged match. >early in the game>get thrown BELOW the map during a skirmish>can go around the map, but can't get damage, so can't get myself killed to respawn>interestingly enough, can deal a little bit of damage with skills>3/4 of the enemy team are literal bots who will try to attack me on sight, but they can't, so they'll be just stuck in one place throwing attacks around when I'm aroundUnfortunately my teammates (some of them bots themselves) were too dumb to take advantage of it, and we lost.
>>544021213I was about to say I think Challengers might be an original,But then an easy google search reminded me of the original band.Of course, a Stratovarius song! Kenji actually ripped off multiple Stratovarius songs IIRC, and they were a small European band too that didn't even have the means to sue but knew that he was ripping from their songs for yearsTruly scummy behavior!But also... Challengers do kinda slap! (I also do like the Stratovarius versions too though, I think this was one of the bands he copied from that were actually just as catchy and good as the songs he made ripping off from them)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2l8KtdQ7Ek
>>543981260Cringe
>>544021624At least thankfully Budokai 3's opening is original as to this day nobody found any evidence of it being ripped from another song.
Cell >>> Vegeta >> Fat Buu > Frieza > The andriods > Super Buu > Beerus > Goku Black > the humble Saibaman > Kid Buu > Jiren
>>544021624Also just in case anyone for some reason is like "well they have similar riffs but I don't really think he ripped this small European band off..."This comparison from the same band on the same album is pretty damning.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5V8niow0EAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS5nQkHK4p0
>>544022674InCells are so delusional
>>544023783he's insaiyan
What era is this artwork from?
>>544025327The good one
>>544020765Yes, he was.He managed to make music that is what dubfags THINK Faulconer captures. Faulconer's an absolute failure in capturing any real tone or making actually good music, and a lot of Yam's work is exactly what people delude themselves into thinking Faulconer's is- it's hard and heavy action music, really fucking good action music that perfectly fits the series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM-nvXErdUsPeople fucking WISH Gohan's theme in the dub was this.
>>544025942For sureThe side profile of Bardock with some of the highlights makes me wonder if it was somewhere inbetween the Yamamuro golden era and the Yamamuro golden shite era though
>>544005850>that does not look like Black FreezaHis torso is turning black, and he's doing the same pose as Black Freeza. Everyone is making the same connection except you. It's a clear homage without being the exact same thing for legal reasons.
>>544020765>Sure it's disgusting behavior butEveryone fucking does this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12FWOJ2XWU4&list=PLbKEF3_VsGeWICVTsMKs4wpag-eYLcUjh
>>544027563sure but that guy really didn't hide it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooSEdnLZ79M
>>544026304I always get A Hero's Desperation confused with "The Man Called "C"" in terms of which one was the ripoff from the Spiderman movie soundtrack but I'm pretty sure it's The Man Called C>>544027563Idk man, Kenji was fucking blatant. Even just trying to google the spiderman song he ripped off I found out like 10 other songs he ripped off I didn't even know of. And I thought I knew every song this guy ripped off already!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrFyvuu34NUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDqW81sDGLgI can't believe I didn't make this connection sooner. I KNEW that Cowboy Bebop song sounded fucking familiar since the first moment I heard it way back in the day but I could never place just why it sounded familiar to me despite hearing it for the first time in that anime.I now know.
Woul Yamamoto's fall still happen if he didn't take the Kai job which upped his prominence? Or was it inevitable in the age of social media anyway?
The Super Mario Bros composer seemed pretty blatant about ripping off "Let's Not Talk About It" by Friendship. Artists "steal" from each other all the time.
>>544027072 I mean they've done this shit plenty of times before in vidya slop where they've used a pose or something from the manga, it's really not indicative of anything
Hello One, Hello All, The time has come for /dbg/ player suggestions for this years vgl! first if your interested in Seeing the boys chase there third star just give this post some >(you's) 2nd if you have any players you want to appear on the poll just fill this out https://forms.gle/vbX62SVGuTDebM9Z9 ! Your suggestions are taken seriously and do make it on the roster every year!
>>544032673You're cute btw
>>544033321WHAT? ... i... thank you...
>>543976427just wait XV3
>>544032673Replace every player on the team with different variations of me screaming at my teammates in Gekishin Squadra(You) lets get 'em
>>544027072I don't understand why the most important part of Frieza's body is unprotected from the Black transformation.Shit design
>>544033897have three people gone on a singular lane anon and left you with 0 help? im sorry
>>544029901Nah the Kai job definitely put it into the spotlight.Nobody would have given a fuck if he just stuck to video game soundtracks. Nobody gives those guys any credit for throw-away anime game soundtrack titles.Having an actual role in being the chief sound guy for the anime escalated him into stardom... which brought about his downfall.
>>544034126Streak buddy, I'd love if three of my teammates took one lane togetherThat would at least prove that they're not bots!
>>544034725you know what thats also a fair!
>s.h. figuarts blue vegeta was being sold at a target for $36 yesterdaywhat are the odds it was a knock-off
>>544043636Cute>>544032673Hopefully I won't miss all the matches this time
>>544032673Our team last time was pretty good IMO
>>543976427xenoverse 2 is $20its worth a shot. plus it has alot of content
I believe we should make it customary to alway report literal bots in GS with the uncooperative gameplay as the reason. Probably won't change much, but the only other thing we can do is stop playing. Maybe if they see enough of it they'll be prompted to do something. Even of it's just making them less obvious duds.
>get tank in any role queue>get a trunks>basically have to spend the entire laning match strictly going for contests since trunk cannot contribute anything of value to the lane>trunks can't even stay anywhere near the middle of the lane since the distance is too long and his health bar is too shortlove it
>>543976427W en though I'm an old men who played all generations of DB games and never was too irked about graphics, I find XV particularly off-putting. It's just so fucking ugly.
Toppo Showcase - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNO7_-0Q4AE
>>543964735her tits are bigger than that.
...in my brown imagination.
>>544048518>SpinningWhen did he spin? I don't remember that... He looks obnoxious, and if SS3 Goku and Gotenks are any hint, there is something extra annoying the trailer isn't showing us.
>>544049046True
>>544050109Not as GoD form, but he did it against Goku in the exhibition fight prior to the ToP iirc.
>>544048518>debuff that does damage and gives him a speed boost
>>544051328Depending on his health bar he'll probably be great in bottom lane.
>>544048518Well, cpntrary to SS3ku and Gotenks, he's actually balanced. The balancing factor being that no one likes him, so at least the fanservice factor is gone...
>>544052327I like Toppo.
>>543991114I remember back when anime was coming out and people kept saying everything they didn't like was Toei idea and wouldn't be in the manga only for 90% of it ending up being part of the outline and appearing in both.
Why is sparking zero so fucking dead. I'm SICK of being in ranked queue for 10 minutes for a single match
>>544055242I never play multiplayer on Sparking 0, I just play dolls or custom scenarios.
>>544055139 It really feels like most Super manga fans don't even actually care about the manga, they just hate the anime and champion the manga to spite it
>>544057670They should just do online Yamcha games where at the end every player watches the winner take on Yamcha.
>>544059412Most people you see scream about how much better the manga is online have never read a manga in their life. People like that don't read in general.
>>544059412I've seen people hype up gohan versus kefla in the manga despite it being 99% offscreen, it's not even a fight it's just the premise of a fight.
I like the Moro arc even with all of its flaws. But the Granolah arc was ass from start to finish and I can't think of a single thing there I want to see animated. I even hated Ultra Ego.
>>544060583for all of its flaws, I really want to see Buu versus moro animated, I think it would be really fun
>>544059412As a matter of fact the sole toyofag in /dbs/ told us as much back in the day. He didn't even like DB, his primary defense of the manga was either attacking the anime or Toriyama and he was actually an OPfag mad that Super eclipsed it I'm not even much of a Superfag, but my opinion always has been that while Super was mostly bad, it had some actually high highs (baseball episode, Freeza return, Roshi episodes, UI episodes of the top of my head), but the manga has been consistently mediocre. There was really nothing to like about it. The only thing Toyotaro brought to the manga was "1001 ways to conserve energy".
>you get a shitty team that cant play>refuses to surrender>you play against a shitty team that cant play>surrenders the moment the timer hits 5 minutesi love it
>>544060583The only way I'm accepting a Moro anime arc is if they change the whole 'Galactic Patrol prison' shit because it make no sense the Kaioshins would work with the Galactic Patrol to keep anyone that matters locked up, they are fodders, remove Meerus working for the Galactic Patrol, because again, they are supposed to be scared of the Freeza Force, remove the cringe vore Cell-like form, actually portray Vegeta in-character unlike the manga and remove Goku completely selling a won fight for no reason just to be bailed by Uub.
>>544060156It was really Gohanfags mad his best solo win in ToP was a fucking Obuni. They were begging for scrapes.
>>544061125Obuni was cool and I liked that fight, DB fans can't appreciate good things.
>>544060896No one really talks about it but one of my favorite episodes of super is right after U6v7 where Goku's IT doesn't work anymore. He has to slow down for once and actually interact with his family and just take a break. It's really heartfelt slice of life and one of the only times to me it's truly felt like Goku is pan's Grandfather
>>544061203>He has to slow down for once and actually interact with his family and just take a break. It's really heartfelt slice of life and one of the only times to me it's truly felt like Goku is pan's GrandfatherGoku and 17 talking about the animals, 17's job and Goku's view of the TOP and saving people was really neat like that too IMO
>>544061201I actually really really liked Gohan's representation in the ToP, he wasn't the strongest person there but he was strong enough to prevent other team mates from being ganged up on and provided a lot of needed support. He felt just about as you would expect someone like Gohan to fare in that kind of situation. Him and Piccolo versus the u6 namekians was honestly a great showing and it's a shame people don't give him credit for that.
>>544061012Functionally it's the same, isn't it? Carrying on with a long-won fight can be just as tedious as a long-lost won.
>>544061374I liked how he teamed up with Freeza against Dyspo and how they combined their abilities to counter Dyspo's bullshit speed.Another moment that doesn't get enough recognition was U2's send off as they get erased.
>>544061371I think the slice of life and character interaction were some of super's strengths, really. Dragonball has always been lean on slice of life stuff so super doing that was fun to see. You get to see the cast hang out and do stuff that isn't fighting. It really makes the Z-Fighters feel like friends that genuinely enjoy eachother's presence.
>>544061548The only Slice of Life in Super I didn't like was the one at the start where Goten and Trunks try to find a gift for Videl.I love how we saw random small stuff like Goku being a bodyguard at a Bulma event or 18 and Chichi shopping together, they are basically sister-in-laws after all.
>>543991114>MoroI see that. Its focus on DB lore like the Boo shit and how it apes a lot from Naruto and tries to hard really shows, and it completely falls apart by the end, like there was no real idea for what Moro's true goal even was beyond a vague "Take over the universe or some such equivalent" idea, which isn't too involving.>GranolahConsidering Toriyama only contributed "part of the plot", I can also see that. I imagine Toriyama's contributions were something like>Granolah conceptually>More Dragon Balls facilitating Granolah's transformation>the Heeters >Black Freeza ending the arc>Burdock connectionThose feel like Toriyama ideas. But, like with all of DBS, I imagine connecting those ideas was left to Toyotaro's discretion and he completely fucked it.
Rildo is just amazing.>Can be used to escape>Can be used to prevent someone from escaping>Can be used to interrupt SS3 Goku's kamehameha>Can be used to distract enemies when they're attacking bosses>Can be used to distract enemies when attacking their towers>Can be used to force enemies in place for slow UltsIt's no wonder it's limited to only tanks. If any role could use him, everyone would, and then it would be obnoxious.
>>544061754One of my favorite SoL gags from super was when goku faked a punch from mr satan, goes flying, but then forgets the tractor and has to go back for it while faking flying off.
>>544061785>like there was no real idea for what Moro's true goal even was beyond a vague "Take over the universe or some such equivalent" idea, which isn't too involving.You could easily have him end up kinda like a more disgusting 21, where instead of fighting against the hunger and being driven mad by it, he gave in to it fully and basically end up little more than a giant stomach as he get stronger but also devolve as a person. From a cunning mage to what's little more than a bloated animal.Might be too much for DB but DQ had a few cases close to that so it could be done if the writer is careful.Ironically it'd be kinda like how you become a demon in Princes Mononoke.
>>544062083That one was good.>>544061847There's literally no reason to take anyone else as a Tank.Even in a fight, if you plot Rildo down, the enemy is forced to retreat since they can't damage you anymore while you can keep wailing on them.
>>544052327GoD Toppo should have been the final boss of ToP, way more interesting than Jiren.Too bad it was a filler form.
I honestly didn't even think Roshi's showing in the ToP was all that out there, despite people disliking him training offscreen. For the most part, all he did was use his status as a gimmick fighter to elminate other problematic gimmick fighters that might have been trouble to the more orthodox fighters of u7, aside from when he just beat chicken man in a straight up power fight I thought his representation was perfect. Sorry if i'm coming across as glazing the anime too much today, I just don't get to talk about the stuff I like about the super anime much
>>544061847If I see a tank pick anything else, I assume I'm dealing with a bot.
>>544062489PICCOLO IS NOTHING COMPARED TO ME!
>matchmaking putting in me terrible games againi love this feeling of having zero control over the outcome of my matches four games in a row with players scores like 0/5+/0
>>544062801They hyped up the humans alot just for them to be jobbers. I wish people would stop asking for them to return. They're just dead weight.>My nostalgiarinos! 'member when they were totally kick ass?
Cooler Corps movieDaima S2Xenoverse 3OUR FUARKING JANUARY 2026 ANNOUNCEMENTS
>>544063616Alternatively>DB remake >DBS manga is coming back BUT only to adapt DBS Broly>the new game is another mobile gacha
>>544063528The theoretical perfect shounen for a lot of people is when all of the cast gets things to do. You see it in other fandoms like MHA and jujutsu kaisen where people need the whole cast to constantly be relavent if they aren't killed off. Being unable to kill anyone off permanently in dragonball forces people to constantly expect the whole cast to do something every arc
>>544063786It's Iyoku and Nozawa event, the news will be anime/games. If they had some manga stuff, they'd invite Uchida or Toyotaro or some-such.
>>544062654Both Toppo and Jiren were cool. Both could have used a bit more screentime for their respective character arcs (Toppo slowly being pressured into going all in on survival and 'fuck justice' while Jiren's 'Goku if his friends left him after he lost to Piccolo Daimao' syndrome getting more detailed) but they did what they were supposed to well enough.
>>544062435Cabba's not a bad choice on Cooler. Because of his passive, you kinda want him to get hit a bit. But every time I see Vegeta, Zamasu or Cell take not-Rildo, I cry a little
>>544063928The thing is, if you don't want cast members to do anything, they just shouldn't tag along. Think Cell arc, Chaozu was retired, but not Yamcha. And then Yamcha ended up doing nothing (contrary to Krillin who got his own little plothtreas and Tenshinhan who got his legendary stand against Cell).
>>544062801Roshi's showing was great, he did just enough to matter without getting obnoxious and it being connected back to his relationship with Goku and Krillin was really cool.>>544063528'Jobber' is a meaningless term, they did what they were there to do, not everyone should be an invincible main character.
>>544064376>And then Yamcha ended up doing nothingYamcha was stated to be at the level Gero expected Goku to be at and got fodderized, showing off how hard Gero planned his overkill without sacrificing a more interesting character.
>>544063928>You see it in other fandoms like MHA and jujutsu kaisen where people need the whole cast to constantly be relavent if they aren't killed off.That's exactly what made the final battle in JJK so insufferable. Everyone got a moment in the spotlight, making the fight drag forever and the Sukuna cycle to get real repetitive (Character is talked up, they put a good show, then lose the moment Sukuna puts 1% more effort).
>>544063980Isn't that news thing Uchida does being featured in the event too?
>>544064734To be fair, that's literally Freeza fight.
>>544065043Freeza straight up pulled a new form every time tho.
>>544065201It was only 5 or so people fighting against frieza compared to the whole ass verse against Sukuna
>>544065447I had to laugh when fucking Miguel showed up. It's like if Tao Pai Pai pulled up to fight Freeza.
>>544062489Botamo would be alot better if he bounced enemies alot faster. It takes him like a second to start pushing.
>>544065201Actually not. He fights a lot in his second form: Krillin, then Gohan, then Krillin again, then Piccolo, and only then does he change. And then once he reaches his final dorm, he starts counting percentages.
my wife is so cute, bros.
>>544066443>He fights a lot in his second form: Krillin, then Gohan, then Krillin again, then PiccoloYeah but only Piccolo in that list did anything except get tortured.
>>544066550Goku fucked that mouth.
>>544065043Freeza fight did it a lot less obnoxiously. The collective fight against Freeza started in chapter 295, and ended in 307 when Goku arrives, a total of 13 chapters. And Toriyama was adding things for character moments, to keep its tension, such as revealing that Dende's potential was healing, which is used to out of nowhere bring Krillin back into the fight much to Freeza's (And the reader's) confusion, then once Vegeta learns of this, he tells Krillin to attack him so he can get a zenkai, so such a broken healing is what's giving everyone a fighting chance at all. And then we had Dende outright refusing to heal Vegeta initially, but later he relents because Freeza is that dangerous, then once Freeza does his final transformation, he immediately kills Dende... All of this in 13 chapters, on top of other things like Piccolo arriving and the asspull that he and Nail can fuse.JJK by comparison, had very little going on plot-wise during its fight. A character was glazed, we got flashbacks explaining why they're there, why they didn't attack earlier, how all of this is part of Yuta's master plan with infinite backups, then they lose and another character is glazed... All of this while Sukuna himself spams binding vows like there's no tomorrow.
>>544066568No, Gohan beat him up, before Freeza powered up, and Krillin actually injured him.
>>544067585>And then we had Dende outright refusing to heal Vegeta initially, but later he relents because Freeza is that dangerous, then once Freeza does his final transformation, he immediately kills Dende...Don't forget the part where Vegeta kicks Dende as soon as he's healed.
>>544065887>It's like if Tao Pai Pai pulled up to fight Freeza.That would be funny.>Piccolo has all of those backup plans to fight Freeza>Contacts Tao Pai Pai>Tao Pai Pai's powers are glazed for half a chapter>He throws one Dodonpa>It doesn't work >Leaves>>544068052Right, moments like this is why the fight is so good. Those are characters desperately trying to survive against an ungodly powerful being, but they don't lose their personalities. JJK had almost everyone with interchangeable personalities, with the only difference being their powersets. IIRC only Hajime and Kusakabe really stood out...
old lady goku voice is garbage
Someone explain the Sukuna fight to me using Dragon Ball terms.
https://x.com/fumiemizusawa/status/1981978733667045540
Is the site/captcha acting up for anyone else?
>>544070642She was young voicing him in original DB trilogy and sounded perfect, you fell into the le old meme.
oh wait, I can post?
>>544061374 118 was a good ass ep with a lot going on and the finale was kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImCQ_rb_wKI>Piccolo being conflicted and having his resolve shaken over fighting the U6 Namekians, since their defeat would mean the erasure of the Namekian race in that universe. Gohan and Piccolo's roles are reversed from the Saiyan saga and Gohan acts as his protector, strengthening Piccolo's resolve and solidifying their complete trust in eachother to finish the job together>The final 3 U2 fodder step up as the last hope of their universe and put on a better show than their 3 key players and actually push Goku to try against them. Goku thought U2 were just jobbers, but he now respects their power and returns it in kind>Beerus and Champa both being too stubbornly prideful to ever admit their emotions to eachother even when one of them is about to be erased
>>544070981That's adorable.>>544071810Yes.
>>544070642We heard you the first time, Funinigger.
>>544066568>Yeah but only Piccolo in that list did anything except get tortured.Krillin was the first one to draw blood.
>>544072012>youngshe was in her 40s.
>>544070978Jobber ENTERSJobber uses their jobber techniquesSukuna TANKS that and spams Piccolo's regenerationSukuna RAPES and GAPES JobberRepeat
>>544070981who is on the right
>>544070978(1/2)Imagine Goku fighting Freeza, only after a really long fight where Goku corners Freeza near the end, Goku gets killed offscreen thanks to an asspull. Captain Ginyu jumps in but starts a fight with Tien. Then Z Broly, who's temporarily allied with the rest, jumps next, but gets killed (offscreen) after Freeza shows his final form.Meanwhile, Pilaf, who has invincible gag powers fights Gero, and Gero wins after an incomprehensible comedic duo moment, only to get jumped and killed by Vegeta, but not before Gero sends one of the last dragon balls to Freeza.Back to the Freeza fight, Gohan jumps in with Dende, Freeza takes an interest in Dende because of his innate talent, gets glazed as potentially stronger than Goku but then Dende jobs anyway. Freeza during this fight is personally offended at Gohan's existence. Then Vegeta arrives after Freeza receives Gero's dragon ball, and Vegeta and Gohan fight Freeza, and Vegeta reveals he copied one of Freeza's techniques because he ate one of Freeza's lost fingers.Vegeta almost gets killed but then 18 arrives to fight him as a surprise attack, because in case Vegeta and Gohan failed at killing Freeza, then 18 can do a surprise attack since her ki can't be detected. Gohan falls from his injuries, but 16 comes in to help him heal by using his blood ki powers. 18's attack attack fails at killing Freeza, and Freeza is amazed 18 not having ki goes against everything the world is made of. During this, Krillin randomly gets glazed in flashbacks while 18 is fighting Freeza, only for it to turn out Krillin will fight Sukuna, and after a brief fight Krillin gets almost killed offscreen after a failed Destructo Disc, but then Tao Pai Pai and Crane Elder randomly show up and save Krillin, and we get a flashback explaining why Tao Pai Pai is helping, how awesome his powers are, but he'll only fight once Freeza is weakened, and then he throws one Dodonpa and leaves.
>>544070978(2/2)Then we get a flashback about Goku explaining Black Kamehameha, which is a technique that randomly enhances the Kamehameha's damage and recovers ki, and Gohan can randomly do it more than anyone else, but then Freeza, while fighting 18, Gohan, and 16, randomly does it too. After a skirmish, 18 and 16 are knocked out and Freeza is about to throw a death ball, the story reveals in a flashback the soul switch training, which is the only way for characters to learn specific techniques, and thanks to that, Gohan learned a technique to protect himself from big ki attacks like death ball, but he can't hold it for long and 16 has to sacrifice himself to protect Gohan.Then Trunks, who was believed to be dead, suddenly shows up and fights Freeza alongside Gohan, and Trunks has a vibraslap that allows him to teleport faster, and after a brief fight, Freeza is about to unleash another death ball but then Goku is somehow alive, only it's not Goku, it's Vegeta after having his brain shoved in Goku's head. A flashback reveals Vegeta had to be a monster to stand a chance against another monster like Freeza, Goku is okay with it in case he loses and then Vegeta jobs anyway, and Gohan and Trunks fight Freeza, but at some point Gohan is all that's left. Then Freeza and Gohan get into a mindscape where Gohan gives Freeza another chance to go back to his body but Freeza refuses, they resume fighting, Videl who was believed to be dead for 150 chapters is suddenly alive and uses a ki attack on Freeza's finger that Freeza Vegeta ate, but Vegeta didn't eat it, he actually ate Gohan's finger who has the same powers as Freeza because Freeza used to be on Gohan's body, and then Freeza dies.
>>544075630>>544075967I am speechless. People BOUGHT that manga? With actual money?
I FINALLY played with a Uub that was almost decent instead of just a dead weight.
>>544070978Not included:>Freeza using someone else's body during his whole fight>Some random girl who has powers to counter "curse" beings like Freeza who doesn't matter>Vegeta having infinite backup plans>Vegeta being randomly glazed for being ultra special because he has two awesome bloodlines, which makes his bloodline more special than Goku's (Who's born strong here)>Infinite flashbacks>Chapters constantly being dragged for a lot of pointless pages to end in cliffhangers>Freeza constantly cheating the ki system in arbitrarily frustrating ways, and one of those is how he killed Goku>Some woman who saved everyone with crow powers because Trunks teleported everyone away by switching the person and the crows>16 and Gohan being spiritual brothers. Gero is 16's father when he was in a man's body, but he's also Gohan's mother because he was in a woman's body at that point>Gohan's father (Not Goku) is the soul of Freeza's twin brother who Freeza ate, Gero somehow found that soul, put in a man, got fucked by that man when he was in a woman's body, all so Gohan can be a vessel for Freeza later on, and then Gero abandoned him for some reason>Ginyu's and Tien's fight (Because it was almost entirely offscreened and Ginyu just killed himself once Freeza died)>>544076331Yes. Gege was hard carried by his first editor, who shut down his most retarded ideas. Once that editor left, Gege went back to his retarded ideas after the Shibuya arc, and started the obnoxiously convoluted Culling Games, and once that was done, we got the final battle, and it's more or less what I wrote. I was bored of the fight when "Goku" was fighting "Freeza", and that's when the fight sucked less, after it, awful. It's an attempt at "hype moments and aura" by that point, but the art was rough by then, at points they were scribbles, and I couldn't care about what was going on.
>>544078534>Gohan's father (Not Goku) is the soul of Freeza's twin brother who Freeza ateWho Freeza ate as a fetus* I forgot the most important detail.
Fuck, I find it genuinely impossible to leave C rank as a Tank, as embarrassing as it sounds. I'm literally always paired with a bot that does nothing but feed. It's mostly Trunks too, always finding it a good idea to duel the tank. My top lane usually can't hold their own either, so even when I go to them to fight a boss, I can't fight the boss because I have to to damage control. I had something like a streak of 8 loses. I believe it all comes down to the fact that Tank is the most sought after role by players, so it's the least botted botted one (doesn't mean not botted at all, but still). If you pick it, neccesarily you have a better chance of a botted team than playing anything else (I'm B in both DPS and Tech and climbing, so while I am a shitter, I'm not as much a shitter as my Tank results would suggest).
>>544078534>>544079013This sounds like some shit out of DBM honestly.
Barely related, but I've had a recent autistic fixation with collecting Dragon Ball DVDs, I'm just about finished with a complete Dragon Ball Sagas set and I noticed that most of DBZ has proper box sets but there's an oddity.I know "Saiyan Conflict" and "Namek" were dub only pioneer box sets (with UUE Vegeta Saga 1 covering the first 20 or so episodes as well, also has a box set), but did the "Captain Ginyu Saga" and "Frieza Saga" sets not have a box release? Everything from Garlic Jr. on has those types of box sets, but those two specifically just don't.Don't mind the idea, the DB Saga Sets didn't have boxes either, but I guess it'll look weird. The movies are also limited on that, as far as I can see there's>UUE First Strike (DBZ Movies 1-3)>Pioneer Box Set (Movies 1-3, again)>Funimation Box Set (Movies 4-6, oddly this predates Triple Threat)>Broly Triple Threat (Movies 8, 10, 11)And the rest never got box sets. >inb4 someone says "just pirate it"I already did. I just like collecting plastic.
>>544079324Play another role for a bit, it generally reset the forced loss.
>>544079479I don't know anything about DVD collections so I can't help but that's interesting
>>544075630>>544078534>>544075967Kek this is fucking hillarious.
>>544072634thats like 90% of voice actors for most shonens in both versions
>>544080649usually they're in their 20s. most of the Funi crew were in their early-mid 20s when they started on DBZ back in 1999.
>>544079374No way. Salagir is as basic of a writer as Toyotaro, the only thing he knows how to do are swerves. The only Salagir-like thing in JJK is Gojo being offscreened after being declared the victor, and even then, that was after a really long fight that made it clear Gojo is stronger than everyone else, unlike Goku vs XXI, where Goku didn't throw a single punch, and other characters didn't think he had a chance at winning anyway. Gege is creative in with his hackery like a bad B-movie, Salagir throws Sandro-tier "howevers" to keep the story unpredictable.
>>544075630>>544075967>>544078534Astounding. True and pure slop.
>>544083081Talking about Sandro, I haven't been on a Kengan thread in a while, I keep missing them.
>>544083608Last time I went there I saw anons have a mental breakdown because they see Sandro everywhere.
>>544083608
>>544086682Same, I remember that, it was funny.
I want Sandro to make a DB spin off. I want this level of hackery mixed the sheer bullshit of the DB setting.
WHERE are the leaks?
>>544069723This looks like shit exclusively read by black transexuals
>>544092616What leaks?
>>544065887You mean like when Tien pulled up to fight Buu
>>544092616right here*unzips dick*
>>544093339If Tien showing up was written by Gege:>Flashbacks talking about how great he is>Someone talking to him so he gets involved>Fights Buu>Buu praises him>Buu puts effort>"This is beyond me, I'm useless!">Gets knocked out
>>544093218g...geekdom sama.d...dbshype?
>>544093705Damn, that is leaking... Might want to get that checked.
>>544094098Did either of them say they had leaks? DBShype already posted the Vjump scans for this month, no?
>>544094098I ran Reekdom's long ass livestream through an AI summarizer and what I could gather was that he knows just as much as we do. DBSHype is an engagement-baiter. He's probably in the same boat. The thing about Dragon Ball leakers is that they're also influencers and they run in the same influencer bubble (the anime/manga/movie half and the video game half seem to be a distant but still connected), so they share leaks, or cover for each other when they're wrong or lying, and what they do know is dripfed across their shitty youtube channels, podcasts, and streamsNo idea what to make of the French leakers. One Piece has a few French/Arab leakers but all they do is leak the manga chapters. For DB they just kind of showed up out of nowhere to talk about Xenoverse 3. Obviously fake, but so much shit is happening in XV right now that it has a slight chance of being real and then if it is they'll use that as credibility.
>>544094834>The thing about Dragon Ball leakers is that they're also influencers and they run in the same influencer bubble I forgot to close my statement with the fact that you're probably not getting any real leaks until end December, and you may not even get them at all. Geekdom and SupaChronicles both got attacked for leaking Daima so they may want to milk that, get some apologies or sympathy points and all that.
>Regular game where I do okay>Meanwhile an absolute nuts 17 attacks towers so effectively he somehow gets 3 Max Gekishin Bursts>I get MVPWhat the fuck is this system? I gave him my vote post match...
I keep forgetting that we're getting TWO project announcements come January, so even if the first one turns out to be disappointing there's still a second chance. Unless one of the projects isn't going to be an animated-based one at all, that'd suck.
>>544097929You're getting a netflix live action and you'll like it!
We got a Sparking Zero Bot Tournament thread starting if anyone is interested. Sorry if this isn't allowed>>>/v/724194884
>>544099947Don't worry, you're fine
>>544099947Gomah bros, we won!
>>543961393You can tell Bamco and Toei desperately wanna animate the manga arcs, not because they're good but because it's leaving money on the table, they know full well how much their merch and games could sell if they started shilling new forms for Vegeta and Freiza as well as a Broly that can fight and not be a screaming retard all the time now vs the OG Broly who is a screaming retardI can see it in xenoverse 2 alone them hyping up a story of Kale and Broly in their controlled forms verses Z Broly Ultrasupervillain form From a business prospective I can't fathom why Shueisha isn't capitalizing on it, they love money and have no morals and there's nothing in the lawsuit saying they can't do it.
>>544083608You didn't miss a whole lot. The pacing is dogshit right now, pic is not an exaggeration for how the last couple of chapters have been. This week was also a break week, fun.
>>544103483Wait, the battle royal STILL hasn't started? WTF?
>>544097929I've been baited too many times. You're getting huge nothing burger.
>>544027072it's depressing how desperate this fandom is for literally anything. the reaching and coping is staggering. like, maybe if his head was black i could see it, but the only part of him that's black is his chest, and that's ironically the only portion of his body that doesn't even turn black for Black Freeza. they gave you niggas the left arm and left leg and that's it. have some respect for yourselves. you deserve better.
>>544097929Don't do this. Please.
>>544103790It's the most shameless stalling ever.>Time to begin>The fight beginsThe first fight actually begins in the latest chapter and only on its last page.
>>544105387This level of hackery shouldn't even be possible
>>544104456Me too, but counting the new game announcement, we've got like 3 shots. They can't all be misses.
>>544094098>>544094834The only legit leaker is AnimeAjay, and unless you're in the deep inner circles of Seed of Might (which requires you to be a significant contributor to their projects, which is what Ajay is and why he is so casual with people there), you'll rarely see his leaks. That's probably due to the "July 2019" incident where he made a single claim that Geekdom blew up to astronomical levels, and it ended up being wrong.Anyways, now that it matters, we can probably predict the upcoming announcements with a degree of accuracy.ANNOUNCEMENT #1: THE NEW GAME>Xenoverse 3Xenoverse 2's Future Saga will be wrapping up next year. It's inevitable. Bandai Namco may or may not be interested in 'revitalizing' the brand by doing a new entry to secure new players who will support another decade long project. If this is the case, I imagine the title will be revealed with an air of mystery, like how Xenoverse 2 was built up with similar mystique, not actually saying what it was going to be at first.>New ProjectThis is anyone's guess since DB games transcend genres at this point. It likely won't be a new gacha or a new fighting game (since FighterZ is getting updates again), but it could be a new single player RPG since Kakarot will be finishing up its Daima DLC next year. ANNOUNCEMENT #2 & #3>A remakeEveryone's talking about this, and there's been a lot lately. The ongoing Yaiba, Dragon Quest Dai no Daibouken, the upcoming One Piece, the ongoing Ranma, etc., so a remake isn't entirely out of the cards. It's also the 40th Anniversary of the anime, which is a big deal. >A new anime series and/or movieMore realistic, but more vague and harder to guess. Everyone with any lick of reliability leaked that Daima was one of two projects, with the other being a longer TV anime that would air sometime after Daima. So who knows>Manga returnSince it's just Iyoku and Nozawa, I doubt this would be announced here. More likely it'd be at Jump Festa, if not V-Jump itself.
>>544106241All 3 shots will be bull's eyes. Trust the plan.
I'd rather have a new movie or Daima season 2 than a DB remake.
>>544106965Yeah, we don't need a remake
>>544106241>They can't all be misses.Please. Don't do this. I'm begging you.
in the hopes of pulling a reverse psychology on reality, what's the WORST two announcements that could happen, in your opinion.
>>544107293Eh they wouldn't waste our time or theirs AND their money making a whole convention 3 months before Battle Hour just to have all 3 announcements be something retarded. At the very least one of the projects and the game are going to be shit and we get something good out of the second project.
>>544107451>Dragon Ball Super 2>it's a DBKai equivalent for Dragon Ball Super where they touch up animation and remove padding, and once you get past the DBS content (by episode 100), it then re-adapts Broly and ends
>>544107451>#1Toyo comes back to adapt DBS Broly (and it's exactly like his Superhero adaption, no real changes) and then goes on hiatus again. #2Live action project.Alternatively, it doesn't even have to be any kind of media. Project #1 could be a perfume brand Akio and Nozawa plan to release and Project #2 could be a Japan-only Dragon Ball theme park
Would it really be Xenoverse 3 when Future Saga 4 is supposed to come out next year? I mean they want that to sell and if people know a new game is coming why would they spend money on the last DLC for xenoverse 2 knowing none of what they bought in 2 matters in 3? Through I'm speaking for myself I've been playing the game since 2016, have a shitload of money, all skills, nearly all costumes and TP medals, if I had knowledge of a 3rd game coming out that same year I wouldn't touch xenoverse 2 ever again
>>544106409Announcement #1>Super Duper DiversSuper Divers reveals they'll be transitioning into the same What-If Wish Fulfilment lane SDBH used to occupy.Announcement #2>Dragon Ball World: Saudi ArabiaShueisha execs and Saudi Princes take the stage to reveal the Saudi Arabian DB World theme park is nearly complete and announce a grand opening date.Announcement #3>Dragon Ball Super SDShueisha and Toei execs take the stage to debut a new comedy anime for kids in the style of super deformed chibi series like Rock Lee SD and SD Gundam. Toyotaro is the lead writer.
>>544108147>>Dragon Ball Super SD>Shueisha and Toei execs take the stage to debut a new comedy anime for kids in the style of super deformed chibi series like Rock Lee SD and SD Gundam. Toyotaro is the lead writer.You realize Dragon Ball SD was already a thing right?
>>5441080463 wouldn't be coming out that same year. It's more likely it's announced as an untitled project where you can kind of guess what it is but it's not outright confirmed, the way Sparking Zero was. And then during Battle Hour (or even later), after Future Saga 4 releases, they reveal the full thing and it releases the following year. Also I'd imagine the fourth DLC would tie into Xenoverse 3.
>>544107451A remake and two new mobile games
>>544108697Oh wait, live action would be even worse than a remake.>>544108430DB SD is fun.
>>544108838Too late, now we actually are getting the sequels to Evolution.
>>544109029I will unironically hunt down whoever is in charge of that movie and Kamikaze them if that happens.
>>544108430correct. Dragon Ball SUPER SD will be a spiritual sequel to that.
>>544109186my FUARKING hero Jim Wong? the second most influential man in the history of the franchise? the GAWD who put Toriyama in the Tsukuyomi, and had him so spooked, that he picked the pen back up and flanderized the shit out of his own universe? doing signficantly more long-term damage than Evolution ever could have by itself?
>>544075630>>544075967>>544078534So who is Megumi in this version? Piccolo? Or fucking Yamcha considering the levels of hatred for both characters (but for different reasons).
Masako Nozawara got her celebratory McDonalds menu: https://x.com/i/status/1982273476997074991
>>544113613starting to get a little concerned she's been quietly diagnosed with a terminal illness behind the scenes... i like to hope all this appreciation is just a result of Toriyama's passing making everyone more like... reverent of this franchise's legends, but fuck. that Chadwick Boseman stuff really changed the way i think about things like this. ;-;
>>544114103I think it's just because of the award she won recently so they organized a bunch of events around it. At the very least the award can't be over her having an illness or something because it's given on a specific schedule every few years IIRC.
>>544108147This is infinitely more likely than this >>544106409You wirr get srop and you wirr rike it
>>544107687If they also fixed up all the dumb shit too, this would be acceptable.
Dragon Ball Breakers 2!
Some things I've tested with Uub's Cyclone.>S1 will give 8 ki blasts when missing, 14~16 when hitting. 14 will most likely happen with level 1.>The more enemies you hit with S1, the more ki blasts you'll gather>Unlike S1, S3 does not give more ki blasts the more enemies you hit, likely because you can use it more at higher levels>S3 will mostly give 8 ki blasts, but sometimes it gives 6 for whatever reason>S3 at level 3 gives 12 ki blasts>Ult gives 8 ki blasts at level 1, 12 at 2, 24 at level 3>Ult gives more ki blasts the more enemies you hit, so if you hit a player and a bunch of NPCs, you'll have most of your ki blasts back. This is specially useful against Nappa, because if you hit him and two Saibamen, you'll get a bunch of ki blasts back, great to hit other players>S2 lasts for 3.5 seconds at level 1, 4.5 at level 2, 7.5 at level 3>Level 1 S2 will use around 40 ki blasts, Level 2 around 50>S2 at level 2 when using up most of your ki blasts will recover about 90% of its own cooldown>This means with S3 at level 3 is a great fuel for S2, by using up most of them, and once S2's used up, S1 then dashing around once or twice with S3, you can use S2 again briefly>S2 at level 3 will last for long enough to use up all your ki blasts, if you want to keep using Cyclone while it's active, use S3 (At level 3) once, by the time S2 ends, you'll use up all of your Cyclone's ki blasts, and if you want to use Cyclone some more, use S1 then S3's two remaining uses before activating S2 again. This might be good against tanks>S1, S3 and Ult don't add up to his Cyclone count immediately, and Ult will only use the amount of ki blasts from his Cyclone you have, the moment you activate it. This means that if use S1, then S3 three times, even while at 64 ki blasts, then use Ult right after, do it fast enough, and your Ult will do max damage, and you'll get about 50 ki blasts back, perfect to use S2 right after to keep fighting.
>>544034052It's silver.
>>544117548That's interesting.
>>544063528why did the humans fall off so much?can't they dragonball wish for power ups? did all the turtle/crane/king kai schools not help at all?couldn't they find another sorcerer like Babidi to buff them further?
>>544125045>why did the humans fall off so much?They didn't, they were never that strong to begin with.
>>544125819Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Chaozu benefited more from Kami than Goku's weak ass did. The reason Goku was always one step ahead of them was that he always got training from the new master before them.>Krillin and Yamcha are still stuck with Roshi, while Goku is off training at Karin's>the Humans train with Karin, meanwhile, Goku is training with Kami already>the Humans train with Kami, meanwhile, Goku is training with Kaio alreadyGoku always had a head start, but even with just Karin training, Kami was impressed by Yamcha, Piccolo was impressed by Krillin, and Tenshinhan was able to inflict pain on Goku and make him try somewhat. On top of that, the humans never make use of the Rosat or Vegeta's gravity room. Tenshinhan outright rejected the Rosat because he never thought he would measure up to Cell. They can't get any stronger if they literally never try, but the fact that they DID get as strong as they did each time they trained with a martial arts god shows they always had huge potential.
>>544129453>The height of their strength is getting stronger than last arc's bad guy multiple years after they were introducedSo yeah, they didn't fall off, they just never mattered much.
shenron has laid these options before you! choose your destiny!
I feel like any more dlc characters will likely just be Super Hero wanking sadly, Beast Gohan, Orange Piccolo, Gammas 1+2 tag team/assist. If I got to choose myself another 4 on top of Daima SS4 Goku, I'd have SS Caulifla (with lss controlled Kale assist), Raditz, Dabura (with a Babidi assist), and Toppo (with a GoD mode transformation like Golden Frieza). I'm surprised they never put Majin Vegeta in, he would easily have been a popular one
>>544106241>They can't all be missesthey very much can, especially if you're hoping for something pretty specific. Like you can say "i want a new anime" but that one alone has a million ways to piss you off, same with "i want a new game", times 3 for all the announcements
>All of my wins have me scoring at least 100k god damagei love these teams that do nothing bruh
>>544106241That depends on how interconnected they are. I mean, imagine it's Daima movie, Daima season 2 and Daima Musou for a game. Daimafags will be ecstatic, the rest not so much. Analogously if you replace Daima with Super. It all depends on if they will try to scratch different itches.
>>544141620i know you just put it as an example but a musou would likely cover every DB media, unless they go the one piece route but at this point i doubt it as it would need for them to do sequels and it feels they completely shunned that way of thinking
I love 21, bros
I think I have to start ignoring bosses in my games bros.I just never get teammates that attack gods. Ever. I have been the highest god damage player on my team, damage, tank, tech, win or loss. I have the highest god damage every single time.
>>544145860>next game>60000 damage>0>0>0
>>544095046>SupaChronicles both got attacked for leaking Daimathat faggot said Daima's OP would be sung by the Makafushigi singer and was confident about this too.
>>544102275>OG Broly who is a screaming retard??????????????????rewatch your Movie 8,f aggot.Nuly is the screaming retard.
>>543961393the urge to buy 6 capsules vs knowing Ill get fucking dogshit
>>544151314I would never buy capsules. Maybe if they had a generous pity system that would let me collect the animation I wanted.
>>544151449exactly, all I really want is stuff for Frieza and Cooler
>>544151314When getting an option to buy capsules, you need to remember about bonus missions.>you need 1000 points to get a mission>it pays 600 Zeni>G capsule gets you 10 pts, P1 capsule 20 pts, SG capsule 70 ptsEffectively then:>G capsule gives you 6 Zeni>P1 capsule gives you 12 Zeni>SG capsule gives you 42 ZeniSo when you're offered a P1 capsule for 10 Zeni, it's pure gain, you get a capsule and eventually you'll be +2 Zeni net. When you're given 3 G-capsules for 50 Zeni, you're actually paying 32 Zeni.
>>544099947Oh fuck I missed it.Did they ever fix the bots in this game? I remember a major stream that does Tenkaichi 3 AI vs AI matches said that Sparking Zero AI was so bad when fighting itself that it was constantly bugging out and was unenjoyable to watch
I want to gag on his cock
>go to farms enemies because we're slightly underleveled in the late game>encounter a single enemy player>"Yeah I can take him">SS3 Goku ITs in just to kill meThis faggot move needs the Breakers cooldown.
>>544155676bossu...
Im still only fucking D1 I hate grinding ranked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AqmbEviBTo Big stream just happened for Super Divers, filthy gaijins can watch it currently.>SDV7 Card RevealDon't have ability text yet but its Goku (final spirit bomb of buu saga), SS3 Gotenks, Super Vegito, Super Gogeta, SS4 Goku (DA), SS3 Vegeta (DA), Masked Bardock and Trunks (Xeno). Also got some PURs that confirm Janemba is also joining in even if not a UR (firstly was shown as a shonen promo), SECs are SSB Gogeta and Vegito. Also a release date for the set in 11/20/25.>SDV6 tournamentAt the end we got a couple of matches for the finals, nothing new deck-wise here that you haven't seen if you lurked in the blog I linked before or the SDV side of youtube. One person in both juniors and masters had the same deck.>SDBH ModeSome (okay, one twitter post but Ryannu also reported on this so???) are thinking it might be getting cut by 11/20/25. https://x.com/yokkun7105/status/1982437708808278124 is the only Twitter post I've seen talking about it as of now. The post says that SDBH Mode isn't on the front page but there are arrows for additional pages of options that it likely will be in, so just play by ear.If it does come to pass. I would care not who is to take me, figured I'd be headbanging in Hell to Motorhead but maybe a Valkyrie shall see valor in my vain fight against the destroyer known as Time. Just hope for WM2 goys, surely it'll come to be even in this darkest of timelines...
>>544155676Big Boss...
>>544163487>fake made up subs
not gonna lie i dont really think gotenks is that goodghosts are mildly annoying and his ult is good for team fights but otherwise i would rather have the other good tech options
Here's your new DB game https://youtu.be/7znxfYxxmdU
WHY THE FUCK DID TOSHI THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR GOTENKS' GHOSTS TO HAVE HITBOXES LIKE ANOTHER PLAYER/NPC? It's so annoying whenever I use a move that would have hit him like Gohan's S2, or Buu's S1, BUT WAIT A MINUTE, you hit the ghost!
>>544170604To make you in particular mad
>>544125045Narratively, they got outcompeted by aliens who were plain better. If they have to do all kids of tricks just to stay on par, why bother. Using the dragon balls for power/selfishly is what villains do.Meta narratively, they got replaced by more interesting characters with stories to tell. If only the characters that replaced them got replaced themselves.Maybe in Dragon Ball Super Duper.
>>544129453Goku was wearing a weighted shirt in that shot you disingenuous dweeb. One he took it off he was able to walk normally.
>>543961393>"we have manga forms at home">the manga forms at home:
>>544005850lmao he's literally turning BLACK and it's not the first time they do this, that SSG Vegeta moves are literally the ones UE Vegeta used against Granolah
>>544175240>Goku was wearing a weighted shirtHe takes off the shirt, and then:>Still had to hunch over>couldn't jog for more than a few seconds>sweating heavily just from moving slightlyThe gravity kicked his ass with or without the weighted gear, retard.
>>544176490>>544176665Obvious samefag is obvious
>>544176490They want those manga forms because it's a lot of money left on the table.
Tinfoil hat time:When Goku fired that Kamehameha that hit Gomah, he broke a seal containing a prison realm within the demon realm that has Demigra, Mechikabura, Moro and Janemba, etc.
>>544177435>not even replying to the same post>so his definition of samefagging is just a person making two different posts at some pointKek seek help
>two different posts>both short>made one after the other>on the same topic>replying to hours old postsNo reason not to make it one unless you're making an artificial crowd.
>>544178723It's weird how Moro doesn't have any lore to him. He looks demonic and has mysterious wizard abilities but none of it goes anywhere.
>it’s the usual suspect again >it’s accusing every unique poster of being the same person yet again
>>544181231That guy literally admitted he made both posts.
>>544181321No I didn't.
>>544177386He's running pretty well there. Running is a lot harder than standing too.
>>544178723>>544181013Create lore for Moro
>>543961549>The manga is overhated.Ain't that the truth
>>543962594>>543963094Go cry to Fagyo for not drawing Daipa SS4 the day it got revealed then
>>543981260SHITmmel lost
>>543997613Sorry that you really wanted your Great Value oc forms instead anon
>>543960341These are THE forms for Goku.
>Notice Baby at some point AFKs>Then a few minutes later, SS1 Goku AFKs too>Surrender>Baby was an E rankSo not only I got two AFKs, one of them was an E rank. What the fuck. Most extreme forced loss I've had yet.
>>544182115There was once an insane wizard, Yatorota. He was known for shoddy jobs and stealing other people's magical reasearch. One day, upon finally securing a position at the Demonic University of Magic via faking his credentials, he decided to prove his critics wrong and create a great magical invention. Of course, he went about it in his usual way. He stole notes of other university wizards, and tried stitching them together. After long nights of writing up list of ingredients and incantation, the time came for execution. Alas! When he started, it all blew in his face! Humiliated and burnt, Yatorota cursed his fate. But then! In fron of him, from the smoke left after the explosion, an entity emerged. And unusal entity it was. Magic! Ki! Spirit! It intended to steal it all from its betters, mirroring its creator. Upon laying its eyes on Yatorota, it immediately sumrised there was nothing it could gain from absorbing the man, so it just killed him. Afterward, it went on a rampage, devoring the school professors, becoming a powerful magician and taking appearance of an old demon. When it consumed the mages, it kept screaming "More! More!", from which the few survivors named it: Moro.
>>544163653Looks neat
>>544187993This is guidebook tier
we need to assign someone to stop boss from trying to feed anyone else her cooking
>>544192025This running gag has really become more dangerous since GoDs became a thing
Chinese Conton City looks nice
>>544193265What's that?
>>544193415Map from that one chinese CaC game that popped up some time ago, then silently vanished>In 2018, in China, during China Joy, we were revealed the arrival of a beta for an upcoming Dragon Ball game, named "Dragon Ball Time and Space Legend". A MMORPG project very close to the approach of DB Online.>Two betas were released exclusively in China and Taiwan in January and May 2019.>The game betas seem heavily influenced by the experience of Xenoverse 1 & 2, with the lobby resembling Conton City, and Trunks Xeno also present as a guide. The intro shows Trunks summoning Shenron to, as at the start of Xenoverse, call upon us.>Since the COVID pandemic that severely affected China, the Chinese developers have not shown any signs of life, and that is unlikely to change.>This promising spiritual sequel to DB Online will therefore remain in the shadows...https://x.com/Neotrax_Co/status/1660729677747568641
>>544183248>no False CHADper Saiyannah.
>>544194415>chinese developers>"promising spiritual sequel to DB online"lol
>>544181013He has the same lore as Babbidi, ancient evil wizard. You honestly don't need more lore for a wizard
>>544194415Who the FVARK are these niggas?
>>544194415I like the jacket
>>544198692He's so cute
>>544194415>First Chinese game was the first and last DB game in like a decade to start off with early DB>Second Chinese game wanted to make a better looking Xenoverse MMOBros...
I'm sick of gekishin already, unninstalled
>>544199512i did that day1
>>544198576Representatives for 4 CaC races, Trunks and some random delinquent.
>finish Xenoverse 2 MSQ>the worst, most dogshit ending I have ever seen in a Dragon Ball game>finish the post-game story>has genuine pathos>let Trunks have his timeline>despite how simple the outward effect would be (just don't use Trunks in any story DLC guys, retire him as the time patrol lead either way), it HAS to be a different Time Patrol Trunks altering history>look at first few DLCs>it's DBS recapsThis game sucks man
>>544194415>Female not!RaditzThere's no porn of her yet because...?
>>544203202Because Nu-females in this series lack sex appeal. No Daima girl has hit mainstream and probably never will.
>>544203202Too obscure, for now>>544203286Arinsu's tags speak otherwise, liar
>>544204104>Arinsu's tags speak otherwise, liarArinsu's fanservice was a nice surprise in Daima, the lewdest the franchise had gotten in decades was a close up on Bulma's fully clothed ass while Arinsu had jiggle physics.
>>544204104Arinsu 1 year after being on screen:>234 on Rule34>2/3rds of it is AI Generated>2 pages worth of images without AI>6 pages including AI>https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=arinsu+&pid=0KekCaulifla 1 year after being on screen (April 30 2017 - April 30th 2018):>https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2743108&tags=caulifla+>https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=caulifla+&pid=5250>9 pages worth of images>No AIFunny because Arinsu is way more prominent in her series than Caulifla is in her's.It's pretty objective to say Arinsu is an astronomical flop by Dragon Ball standards. When you have such an ugly design it's no wonder,
>>544203202Her game was never even released, anon.
>>544206129Caulifla has a fun personality and looks good even if that back tingle shit and her being weirdly strong pisses me off
>>544206869Caulifla is also a 'nu-female' that anon was bitching about, just ignore him.
>>544206661People made porn of Android 21 months before her game was released.>https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2507849&tags=android_21+>2017-09-16>Dragon Ball FighterZ>January 26, 2018Your next cope?
>>544206869She's a lot more fun than anything produced since Android 21,
>>544206992Here's your pity (you), stop begging now, it's sad.
>>544207203Thanks for telling me I won. I can feel your tears.
I don't care that you're on your knees, you're not getting another one.
Absolutely and utterly buckbroken. Math won.
Damn, playing as Tank again, and while this time my two DPS were bots again, it does make a difference when the Tech is a human. Ultimately, the DPSs were only good as bait (I treated my lane's Trunks as just another Rildo) + backdooring towers, having someone to cooperate with feels nice.
>>544113536It could be anyone. I had Vegeta take Yuta's place because of the pic I posted in >>544075630, but Yuta isn't Gojo's (The one who fought "Freeza" first and got offscreened) rival. Technically Pan or Uub would make more sense. In a way, Gohan would be more fitting to take Megumi's place (Talked up, does nothing, gives up once things get rough)...
Is taking someone's tower in the first round considered faux pas? I mean, it's their fault if they get wiped in the first fight, but it still feels wrong.
>>544210792>Is taking someone's tower in the first round considered faux pas?No, you play to win, do it if you can.
>>544210792>>544211248It's rarely worth going for it tho so you won't do much damage and the respawn is super fast but if they're retarded enough to try and farm the mobs on the way rather than rush back, it's on them.
Do you think we'll see a release trailer this week for xenoverse 2? the characters are scuffed but I'm real curious on who on my list for costumes makes itFor those who don't recall I listed Paragus Super Cheelai without the bag as she is in super hero and her model in gameLamo Broly muscle shirt as he appears in super hero, I'm sure some folks will like that either as it's by itself or with bah's ear on it or bothor if they still wanna go with daimaGomah Bulma Hybusare the only ones I can imagine they'd do, Ariasu, Degasu and the Gerdimari don't matter enough for people to care to dress as them, both majins have typical buu clothes and Marba matters even less
>>544211429With Super Start it's possible to end it quickly.
>>544212032>Do you think we'll see a release trailer this weekWhy specifically this week?
>>544206869She's not anymore weirdly strong than Future Trunks in the Black arc.
>>544212364Because its' coming out on Friday I just wanna see the costumes already surely they have thosethe other things we already know are Level cap going from 160 to 180new raid for Broly where he starts in Wrath, awakens to super saiyan then goes Legendary that's pretty obvious probably a new raid for Ultra supervillain Golden Freiza like Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black Supervillain and basic Super Saiyan Rose Black raidYou know, I've been pondering this for a while now, what's up with how they pronounce Rose in english, is it supposed to be said that way or are they just trying to lean into the evil brit characterization they gave him since how he talks in japanese has no english equivalent? Kinda like how that girl from Azumanga had a Osaka accent and the dub responded by making her a TexanLanguage barriers are a real motherfucker at times
>>544212032A Gendarmerie outfit is totally feasible though, we got the soldiers from Future Trunks's timeline and Angol's uniforms in DLC.
The big thing I wanna know is what colorable festival outfits are we getting?
>>544212859They pronounce Rose like the french alcohol, Rosé.
>>544034052Do you think the colored parts are somehow harder than the rest?
>>544213710Row say?>>544213693We won't know until the DLC and there's data for another festival of universe in it, Friday's gonna be pretty exciting for xenoverse 2 fans, for a few hours I just realized I never even touched the plot of the future saga yet on my both episodes are still istting in the time next since I stopped visting the place
How does rank reset in other games? If they were to implement it I want to know what I'll deal with. Does it push you down one rank? (So if you're A rank, you're pushed down to B) I hope it's not a complete reset where everyone is E rank again. I don't want to deal with that again.
>>544215768>Row say?I guess? I'm not an expert on english pronunciation, I just know Japan pronounce it like the french pronounce 'Rosé'
>Two C ranks on my team*sigh*
>>544219361You were someone's C rank too at some point anon.
>>544219860I don't blame the C ranks. It's not their fault the game's matchmaking is bad... One of the C ranks was in the opposing team in the very next game, and another one, and that wasn't fair to them either.
>>544219361>>544219860Forgot pic. Looking it at, the C ranks must be playing together too...
>>544219361>>544221082The A2 guy is also the same between games.
>>544221540Wtf, you're right. And looking at the opposing team, three of them are also the same guys. I just happened to deal with teams of three twice in a row...
>>544222071Gekishin's matchmaking REALLY doesn't know what to do with pre-made groups
I want all Gotenks players to be euthanized
>>544215768Row zay* is how they say it in the dub
>>544225317It's spelled ロゼ in Katakana so that's also how it's pronounced in Japanese.
The solution is simple, we need more db waifu porn
>>544229789Based. Arinsu supremacy.
>>544229789Yes.
>that 1 image of majin 21 and arinsu where 21 is saying "he likes me more"
Do you guys think we'll get an actual leak on what the announcements might be before January?
>>544234370I doubt it
>>544234370As stated earlier, the only leaker with actual contacts in the industry is AnimeAjay. Geekdom had contacts at one point, but he clearly burned them or they stopped feeding him info when he spent the entirety of Daima spoiling shit weeks (if not months) in advance.So far, Ajay has been silent, but we already know that there is a TV anime (and not a web anime, which is what Daima initially was before it was used to open a new timeslot) which is what he was saying 3 years ago. That the "new web anime" was in early production while the "new TV anime" hadn't even begun entering production.So, what we already know is>Announcement #1Is a video game. Likely, if one of the current games is being retired, it will be Xenoverse and thus the new game will be a Xenoverse 3 of sorts. If not that, then it will likely be a new game entirely.>Announcement #2A new TV anime. That's all we know. It likely won't be short form like Daima and instead expected to run "about 4-8 cour" with extensions based on how successful it is, which is how Toei does most major productions that aren't beholden to time slots (i.e., Precure is always 4 cour, but the new Digimon is 4 cour with potential for extensions). >Announcement #3Likely something less exciting. Something in the realm of an exhibition or older materials being reissued. Optimisitc lens? Toei gets off their asses and rescans/color corrects all of DB. Realistic? Something nobody here would care about.I doubt we'll see a new gacha and I doubt they'd announce a new movie alongside a TV anime.
>>544236368>I doubt we'll see a new gachaWe already got a new mobile game announced recently.
>Playing as Vegeta>Me and Goku are killing a stupid duo of Daimaku and Cell a lot>I have snowball with 4 stacks>Get overconfident>At some point I'm up against 3 injured players>"I got this">DieIt was no stupid decision. I was just playing the character!
>>544237364Yeah, that's what I mean. There's already a lot of sectors that are filled up, so what we can rule out for the third announcement are>new anime>new games/mobile>anything to do with Shueisha (so, no new manga)Which leaves a lot of stuff people here wouldn't care about outside of some form of new remaster for the older anime, which I could maybe see Toei doing, but that's far outside what they'd normally do. The only anime I can think of that they actually went back and rescanned themselves were (I believe) Saint Seiya, Galaxy Express 999, and Dragon Quest Dai no Daibouken, and of those, one was literally commissioned by Square Enix since they were ramping up interest in Dai as a part of the IP again.
>>544234370see>>544108147
thanks to Daima i get to see what every character in the verse would look like with Numbah 4's Super Saiyan parody hair style.
>>544240119I really don't get all this rage around how SSJ3 is done in Daima.The only SSJ3 designs Toriyama did were for Goku and Gotenks. Gotenks is half Goku's design, and even then there were already distinctions. The flavor of Trunks in Gotenks' design leads to a widow's peak hairline and the hair being more straight compared to Goku's less consistent flowing locks (and single bang).Vegeta's hair standing straight up is just what makes sense- SSJ3 exaggerates the design. Him having the same hair as Gotenks really didn't make sense, but nobody really cared or put much thought into it because those were video games (and also because it's a meme form).
>>544242147>I really don't get all this rage around how SSJ3 is done in Daima.The overwhelming majority of people don't give a shit or like it, SSJ3 Vegeta has been very popular so far.
>>544242147>I really don't get all this rage around how SSJ3 is done in Daima.Super Saiyan 3 is like 30 years old. it has been depicted the same way for 30 years. they've been selling officially licensed Dragon Ball Heroes Super Saiyan 3 figures for probably 10 years now. it was a set and defined design until someone working on Daima had the bright idea to switch it up to sell new merch. it's a creatively bankrupt, unnecessary, and silly looking permutation that was created in a lab to sell new toys. it's just another glaringly soulless decision that wasn't made in the interest of fan service or enriching the narrative – it was just made up to sell toys. Daima SS4 is the same way and that's why a subset of fans will always look at them like TEMU transformations.
The talk of Bejita and long hair has caused me to download a certain game...
>>544242838>Super Saiyan 3 is like 30 years old. it has been depicted the same way for 30 years. they've been selling officially licensed Dragon Ball Heroes Super Saiyan 3 figures for probably 10 years now. it was a set and defined design until someone working on Daima had the bright idea to switch it up to sell new merch.Toriyama. Toriyama switched it up. Because he doesn't give a shit about the greater merch or what other guys were doing. Like how we he did Gogeta, he gave Gogeta a different fair and hairling, or like how when he did Broly, he basically invented a completely new design. Those other spinoffs and irrelevant titles only did the design the same way everytime because they were worked on by people who were not considering the designs beyond marketability. The form was just something to staple onto a character rather than something unique to each character.This is like is SSJ2 was only ever shown with Gohan, and the series stopped at Cell for years, and so every video game decided that all characters with that form had all their hair stick straight up with a singular bang falling in front of their face, and that's how it was for decades.And then one day, Toriyama decided to come back and show that Goku's SSJ2 design was barely different from his SSJ1 design and people lose their shit over that.All this shit is like when people talk about the ending of Z as Goku abandoning his family because they watched stuff not made by Toriyama that didn't say that, and then write off Neko Majin because it doesn't align with their childhood fixations (see: retardation/autism).
>>544242838the classic design is also the only one we've seen our CaC's utilize for like 12 years now. i'm sure Ultimate Tenkaichi would've been the same way if its CaC could ascend that high.
>>544243227>Like how we he did Gogeta, he gave Gogeta a different fair and hairling,I think my keyboard is dying or something. Meant to write:"Like how he did Gogeta, he gave Gogeta a different face and hairline".That or I've been up for 30 hours, that could the issue.
>>544243227>All this shit is like when people talk about the ending of Z as Goku abandoning his family because they watched stuff not made by Toriyama that didn't say that,That shit always pisses me off so much.
>>544243227>ToriyamaToriyama isn't the final, be all end all arbiter of Dragon Ball, just like George Lucas isn't the final arbiter of Star Wars and Stan Lee wasn't the final arbiter of Marvel Comics. he is capable of making mistakes and poor decisions.can you link an interview or something where Toriyama is holding up the character design sheets for the new Daima forms? or are you just saying Toriyama designed them because some Shuiesha press release or ad claimed he drew them?
>>544243836>Toriyama isn't the final, be all end all arbiter of Dragon Ball,He is. His word on things is God.Goku didn't abandon his family and SSJ3 isn't a "one size fits all form". It being that was something done solely for Bandai Namco and Toei to have greater and easier marketability, as it establishes key notes for a singular transformation that can be applied onto multiple characters. >he is capable of making mistakes and poor decisions.And why is this hairstyle a poor decision beyond "The shitty video games I played were wrong?">can you link an interview or something where Toriyama is holding up the character design sheets for the new Daima forms? or are you just saying Toriyama designed them because some Shuiesha press release or ad claimed he drew them?You've basically just said that you won't accept any answer dumbass. Daima finished all of its early production prior to Toriyama dying, including character design, but he died well before Vegeta SSJ3 was even revealed, so of course there's no photo of him "holding up the character design sheets". But you knew that.
3geta should have happened a long time ago. Vegeta has gotten stronger forms since then and finally introducing unique SS3s after decades of them looking the same is going to lead to confusion over how the form works.I still like the concept for Vegeta's.
