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>Falcom Games
https://pastebin.com/DsiJppXk
>Pastebin (aka music)
https://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt
>Extra Stuff (guides, downloads, undub patches)
https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s
>Games, mods, saves, pre-patched translations
https://nyaa.si/user/Ganba
https://nyaa.si/view/1749605
https://nyaa.si/view/1749617
>Translation patches for Hajimari, Oath in Felghana, Kuro 1 and Kuro 2
https://pastebin.com/g7PfH0bL

>Kai MTL patch
https://files.catbox.moe/ygv0l2.7z

UPDATED: 10/11
>Ys vs. Trails in the Sky: Alternative Saga is available
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1794880/Ys_vs_Trails_in_the_Sky_Alternative_Saga/
>Trails in The Sky 1st Chapter is available
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3375780/Trails_in_the_Sky_1st_Chapter/
>Edia to port PC-Engine Ys, Dragon Slayer and The Legend of Xanadu games to modern platforms
https://www.gematsu.com/2025/09/edia-to-port-pc-engine-ys-dragon-slayer-the-legend-of-heroes-and-the-legend-of-xanadu-games-to-modern-platforms
>Automaton interview with Kondo regarding Sky remake and the future for the series
https://automaton-media.com/articles/interviewsjp/kiseki-20250901-355966/
>Ys X: Proud Nordics coming west in early 2026 for Switch 2 and PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjgJnBtV-j4
>New Interviews with Kondo
https://www.a9vg.com/article/235712
https://dengekionline.com/article/202508/50197
>The Legend of Heroes: Trails beyond the Horizon New Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQELYrJXO-A
>Trails beyond the Horizon is coming to Switch 2 and delayed to January 2026
https://www.gematsu.com/2025/06/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-beyond-the-horizon-adds-switch-2-version-delayed-to-january-2026-in-the-west
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Cute wife.
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Ragecuck asshole stature?
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Where things currently are for me (don't read if you never played Kai), provided purely for amusement:
I correctly guessed who's behind the Remnants. (Not that hard.)
Positively surprised that the green one wasn't who everybody expected (?).
Negatively surprised about the Apostle. Moniker and way of talking weren't a clean fit.
Risette: She's either from the future (would be stupid), some sort of past cycle (if that's a thing) or from the Beyond. Nina's backstory makes the latter a possibility. Makes me wonder whether it's some Attack on Titan-style scenario, ie there are humans outside the walls. The issue is Shannon, who'd be either her ancestor or actually Risette in the current cycle. Remote region hints at the northern peninsula, but why have a postapocalyptic setting with billboards over there?
Endtimes: In the past I assumed that there's a cycle baked into the world by Aidios. Now my guess is that the cube in space (it's in OP/cover art) is something set up with the Sept-Terrion of Time after the Collapse. Because they wanted to protect Zemuria from devastation caused by scientific progress they set a timer to this stellar phenomenon or have a detector for orbal/nuclear science. When the countdown runs out this Grand Reset happens, and may have happened over and over again in the past ("this possible world").
What I don't like about this it makes a single Sept-Terrion so more powerful and important than even a fusion of two. This is one ancient group becoming God. At least it explains how Time is always tied to hell.
Mysteries: The Grandmaster (nothing but a shadow performing an experiment); the church music suggests some tie to, uh, the Church. Aidios. Where is the Holy Beast? Mare/Grendel. The suppressed words. Wake up from that dream. The Gramheart residence. Secret super bracer. Is this really the last game of the Calvard Arc?
Pleasingly intriguing, but I expect some stupid shit.
Probably still better than orbal energy usage being a pun on climate change.
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Novartis is still the most competent and loyal member of Ouroboros, whose leader, the original Saint of the End, is now 300 trillion years old due to the endless repetitions.

A girl from the Beyond who once appeared in Zemuria.

Back then her name was Creha Rem Ordine.

If causality is gone why not have a piano-playing octopus appear out of nowhere? Or have Agnes morph into an obese, tattooed stripper.

Hm, how about this.

The world has already ended and Risette is from reality (some post-apocalyptic setting) but Zemuria exists in some kind of dreamlike bubble (the lie) which ends after 1200 years and then everything has to be resetted? Is Risette's name a pun on that? Maybe the Saint is the one dreaming? Apparently, the Church has knowledge of such past events. This also makes sense of the Grendel dream references.

If they're going for a Star-Ocean-like thing, that it's all a simulation or fantasy started by Aidios, then I can only say it's deliberate self-sabotage. It's already bad that they need no graveyards in Zemuria and characters and their deaths are disrespected like that; but I dare expect some substance from the people who came up with Sky/Zero/Azure. I mean the world building is from back then. That's why I keep telling me it's not the most primitive and tired explanation.

I think everyone has been confronted by the idea that we're in a simulation, and while that's just religion for atheists I have to say who cares. My experiences and my sense of self are my reality regardless of what the universe is; but gaming characters on your screen realizing they're virtual is beyond the pale.
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Five (5) (V) (Go) (五) (ご) cute facts about Towacutest!:

1. She is canonically atowable!
2. She is mai Kiseki-fu!!
3. I love her!!!
4. Towacutest!!!!
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>>544167931
Towa plays the 3DS!!!!!
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>>544167931
5. She can't successfully carry a stack of papers from point A to point B
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>>544168585
Clumsiness is moe.
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>>544168585
she's such a stupid fucking bitch
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Cute and canon!
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>>544169019
if it's canon why do you never post in-game evidence? huh??
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>>544169019
That's not Sully
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Cute and canon!
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oh you're one of those gimmick posters than doesn't interact with the general
lame but okay
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NadiaAnon where are you.....
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Cute and canon!
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>>544167145
> Because they wanted to protect Zemuria from devastation caused by scientific progress they set a timer to this stellar phenomenon or have a detector for orbal/nuclear science
My guess is they were split off from the rest of the world. Aidios saved this chunk and became a God.
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>>544174407
nice cow but i'm more of a cat person myself
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>>544175093
she deserves way more coom content desu, and one that isn't drawn by a fucking monkey
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>being enough of a sore loser to get a TO's reputation nuked over some mean words

imagine participating in a tournament that has the manager's nuts stuck in the reddit vise
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>>544174407
Zamn
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Since you're never getting your 50 bucks it's fair to say you did it for FREE lol
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Kai 2 will be Their Game and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>544167931
She is an immigration NGO girl!!!!!
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>>544167347
20,000 loops of 1210 years doesn't even come close to 300 trillion years (more like 28 million)
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>>544186078
Haha... classic Furio!
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the ouroboros logo is meant to be some ghost type thing like a regigigas with the 7 green things as its eyes, right?
and the snake is his arms he's rubbing together
that's how it's meant to be interpreted, right?
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>>544179528
Cute.
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>>544185614
Towa loves Eastern chads like Cao and Gouran.
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nadia rizz
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You should have played games
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>>544190595
There are still those swearing that this is a guy

>>544191865
You played games with our emotions though
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I finish several games monthly and she still never posted more pics...
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Prove it
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Have YOU been playing any games huh?
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Finished Sky 1st. Enjoyed it quite a bit, but now I gotta wait for Sky 2nd, haha...
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>>544191865
>>544192486
Can you explain the thought process behind posting something like this >>544190595 here? What drives a girl to do that? Were you getting off on the attention?
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>>544193696
Why did one of you post this? https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/543574797/#q543604515
Stop singling out women when you men are just as bad, in the Trails community at least lol
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lol
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>HEY THAT ARIOS GUY IS NOT ONLY STRONGER THAN CASSIUS BUT HE'S ALSO JUST AS CUNNING DESPITE NEVER HAVING A LEADERSHIP ROLE BEFORE
Why do they keep doing this?
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>>544194004
You literally asked for it!
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>>544194161
Noel is a traitorous whore.
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>>544194161
THAT'S THE POWER OF THE EIGHT LEAVES
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>>544194342
Noel gets her perfect ass corrected by Lloyd so its fine
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Am I the only one who's a big fan of Bracer's Regina massive ass
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No, you're not
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Yes, you are
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>>544194004
Post tits, pussy, and ass from multiple well-lit angles, or leave at once.
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>>544194161
Why do retards say they only started doing this with Kasim?
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>>544195298
i'm a bracer butt connoisseur, regina's butt is exquisite.
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>>544194161
Arios doesn't even show a single intelligence feat. He was just the muscle of the operation.
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>>544196294
you can just barely see her thong indentations................
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>>544178836
Anything but Nadia Swin please, at least make them have sex on screen
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>>544197753
>Anything but Nadia Swin please
Kevin will take a backseat to them again, and Ries will shit on Kevin while praising them instead lol
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>>544194004
Oh god! Why did I click this?! Why are anons so horny
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Sure does explain a lot about /fg/ though
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Top 3 Calvard bracer butts:
>1. Regina
>2. Xiaoling
>3. Elaine
>4. Fie
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>>544201060
Fie has a pretty nice butt...
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>>544201060
eastern butt...
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>>544201249
Altina, Towa and Crow have to listen to Fie and Rean going at it all night every night during Kai.
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I'm still amused that the Calvard archaisms are objectively inferior to Erebonia's.
FIO and XEROS can't do shit compared to Claimh Solais, which can fly at high speeds, and transform into pretty much anything
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>>544201885
can clammy bark though?
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It can suck your feet
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>>544202060
ok i kneel to superior gnome tech
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lol
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Love my beautiful, cute, loving, supportive, caring, and adorable wife
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>>544166786
Altina is gonna get my smooches
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>>544201885
>something made by a being that's hundreds of years old is superior to something made by normal dudes
No shit.
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>>544201990
White woman detected
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>>544201813
Carnal anal with Carna's anus
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I have done unacceptable things to the fandom
Things so immoral I don't even dare mention them here and risk inspiring others
I can never be whole again
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>>544204925
Why don't you ever share pics
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Am I fucked?
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>>544205249
I'm sharing pictures, anon
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>somehow the ys vs trails tournament scam has breached the FGC
Finally, 2 cesspits of a fanbase can mix like /mlp/ and /pol/ back in the day.
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I just don't care that some paedo got scammed
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There needs to be a spanking scene with the increased amount of butt power and focus that these games are getting. Even more so since Agnes can canonically earned one.
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>>544207880
I wonder if some of the people here were part of the mass reporting force.
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>paedo
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Tronny's feelings matters!!!!!!!
Let's be better /fg/'ers
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>>544211091
whomstdve
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>>544196294
Alvis is so lucky...
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>>544205000
Vankid...
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>>544211091
being able to play other games while not thinking about all the real world drama stuff tied to it is nice and I wish it wasnt tied directly to trails.
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>>544202824
what were they thinking with this shit, the idea is amazing but the way they went about it was complete fucking dog feces. God kill Falcom plz.
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>>544211703
Wrong reply, buddy?
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lol
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imagine the giant kyaa Shizuna would give if you pinched her butt.
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Cut your kyaa
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The Sky the 1st localization continues to be frustrating. They made the Google translate tier mistake of translating half heartedness as "cool". Straight up A.I tier mistakes

Gungho: Hey! Don't act all cool now!

Japanese: あ、なんか投げやり

My translation: Well that's insincere.
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>>544194161
He's COOL
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>>544219937
Unironically better than CS arc's animation.
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>>544220085
Not sure I fully agree.
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>>544213672
Kyaaaaa
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>>544194161
Simple answer: Power creep. Every arc has to up the ante and introduce "x person is just as/even more powerful and smarter than x person from the previous arc". Crossbell did it to Sky. Cold Steel did it to Crossbell, and Daybreak/Horizon did it to Cold Steel.
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>>544220432
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>>544220976
I still prefer 3D
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>>544221096
Your subjective opinion is objectively wrong.
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>>544220837
Every arc shouldn't feel the need to do this. Falcom is simply retarded
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>>544221096
Preach it, King
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>>544220837
What I'm hearing is that Sky is the only arc to not powercreep, and is therefore superior, as we already knew.
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>>544219937
For me, it's when he fights Red Constellation.
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>>544220085
They're about equal.
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>>544223225
They're about equal in technical quality, but it looks way more ridiculous in 3D, so the 2D ends up looking better despite being equal in technical quality.
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>>544223225
Nah>>544219937is way better than >>544220976.
This>>544223082 however is about on the same level of "quality". Those jaeger niggers can NOT AIM FOR SHIT in that holy fuck
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>>544223951
so sovlful...
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>>544219937
Woah, he knocked those guys unconcious with a single slash, as expected from a Divine Blade...
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>>544224907
He'll whip that thing out in the 3rd remake. Just you wait....
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>>544223082
And no one died here.
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Ragecuck asshole status?
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Started a Trails marathon last year and I've reached Azure. The world and characters are engaging so far but the gameplay and story are generally eh. When does it get really good?
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>>544211878
No, CS3 was a mistake and 4 even more of a mistake
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>>544228174
It doesn't and Ao is the worst offender just a long ass boring game.
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>>544228174
The endgame slog and Arts spam of Zero made me play Azure on normal.
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>>544228174
trails is a 7/10 at most so it never really gets as good as you're expecting or hoping it will
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>>544228174
Azure has a mostly good story, Liked it more than Zero.
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>>544228486

That's kind of a letdown considering I was holding out on Cold Steel, which got 4 games for some reason.
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>>544228934
Kondo's big anime arc haha
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>>544228174
>the gameplay and story are generally eh.
This never changes. The gameplay has good ideas but Falcom shit out these games way too frequently so it never receives any real semblance of balancing or handcrafted well thought out encounters that would really make it shine. I think they just see the combat as a means to an end and an obligation instead of something that you spend half the game doing.

As for the story, well that's even more of a mixed bag. Honestly when I look back I don't think the story ever really reached its potential either. So many interesting things were set up but over the years they either went nowhere or had an extremely lame resolution. Falcom know how to build hype for something but they just almost never really deliver on it. I think that's why people are so fond of whatever the first 3-5 Trails games they played over the others because it doesn't really dawn on you how much this series just fails to deliver on its hype until you've already played half of the games.

The series still has moments of greatness but honestly the best advice anyone can give someone getting into this series is to always keep your expectations in check.
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>>544224725
What's wrong
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>>544229398

Sound advice. I was already starting to like the characters more than each game's story anyways.

Now I can go back to pining for my soldier waifu Noel.
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Swin and Nadia and marchen and grim garten ruined the calvard arc. Only those things. everything else is perfectly fine or everything else is a little problem compared to the previous things mentioned
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>>544228994
kondo you bastard you made calvard less anime......... you better make the next arc take place in highschool too. Im trying to get a harem you motherfucker. Ill still buy your games 3 times, jp,steam,ps5
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>>544231630
And the action. And barely getting lots of new locations. And sega geneses collecting and more demon slop and
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>>544231802
Justu trying somethingu rew!
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>>544230941
idk
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>>544232272
well figure it out
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What's the worst example of powercreep?
>Richard being introduced as threat but eventually became the weakest known 8 leaves user despite being in his mid 30s
>Rixia being introduced as a powerhouse only to perform worse and worse each arc
>Rean becoming a divine blade throughout 5 games, then only to be oneshotted by Shizuna(granted it was an ambush, but it's also an anti feat for previously wanked Unclouded Eye)
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Would anyone be up for reviving the football team for the upcoming VGL? It seems like the manager is dead, but competing as an autopilot for now could work. The team hasn’t participated since 2023, so here’s the last version of the roster so maybe we could change some players too.
>what the fuck are you talking about
TLDR there used to be a football team playing against other /vg/ generals and we used to be part of the league
Some games from 2020 so you know what I'm talking about.
https://implying.fun/video/vgl14/2020-06-06/1/?t=2:41:31.0
https://implying.fun/video/vgl15/2020-12-11/4/?t=06:21.0
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>>544233280
He made me hate Renne
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>>544232897
thatss the opposite of dumbasscreep?
like how kuro2 does to all of our characters

fucking ashen ambushed and kills the entire party
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>>544233370
all the nu-/fg/ submissions would just be cringe so better to leave it dead
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>>544233370
Don't we need models and shit, can you get that sorted? It's going to be pretty much one person maintaining it and if you're up for it sure

but it's probably going to take a bit of effort...

i'd say save the headache, this general is full of erptards who talk off topic anyway, don't waste your energy
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>>544233479
>ashen ambushed and kills the entire party
She's the STRONGEST WOMEN
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>>544233661
I'm willing to compromise by making some minor and gradual changes, but bringing in 20 new players is simply not feasible. The goal here is to get the keep up and running, and perhaps someone else might take an interest in managing it later on. But it is true I have lost some familiarity with the general's culture.
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>>544228174
The final chapter of Ao is probably the best way to judge whether you should continue the series. If you don't like that finale, you're not gonna like Cold Steel because CS is written pretty much the same way.
>>544229398
Sky delivered on its premise though. It set up the Aureole conflict and followed it through to its full conclusion, resolving most of the character arcs and subplots in the process while setting up future games. It's not Sky's fault that the future arcs failed to deliver on that.
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>>544233479
Powercreep is when a character introduced or shown to be strong gets beaten or outshined by a new character for the next arc/season. It's an easy formula to showcase the threat level of the new set of characters. This trope is always seen Dragon Ball. There was a time Tien was a threat. What you describe is not powercreep, it's plot induced stupidity. They just needed a contrived way to use the time travel mechanic so in Falcom's infinite wisdom, they thought killing ASO everytime is a good idea.
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it was good comedy
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Dragon ball tried to power scale at some point, Kiseki don't even bother. They just do things because the plot needs it
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>>544233280
what about alberich or thomas lysander?
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>>544233370
Okay
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>>544234846
>alberich
Basically came out of nowhere, attempted to fuck shit up, got released from his mind contrl, disappears

it was dumb, but its whatever, he came and gone

The oathbreaker on the other hand, shows up one too many times, does something stupid for stupidity sake, then still shows up, reminding us that he exists and he <might> do something again but never does

>thomas
meh
he's a teacher
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>>544231813
that I forgive because kondo did say that calvard is smaller than erebonia so it would have less locations. If kevin route didnt exist we would have aso go to different places besides just edith
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>>544234782
Nah. Nowadays, it's even dumber than Kiseki. Frieza raised his level from below super Saiyan 1 to relative super saiyan blue by just training for months. Fucking android 17 reached super saiyan god levels by working as a park ranger.
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>>544235142
>kondo did say that calvard is smaller than erebonia
Did he really say that. It looks pretty good on the maps. I think they should have gone somewhere else for the arc.
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>>544231630
We need to blame the Japanese more
They said they wanted something new
Kondo gave them something new.. Then they didn't buy..

*immediately votes rean and co to come back as soon as kuro came out*
brehs...
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>>544235142
thats just an excuse for them to be lazy
look at calvards map, its fucking empty
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>>544235302
>>544235661
tells us size and scope doesn't really matter, ereobonia feels far more connected and "bigger" than all if cakvard,,,
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>>544235346
>Japan and Korea ask for Rean and Kevin
>they return
>turns out they've got the least amount of time in the game and barely interact
>vans route ends up being mediocre, and most of the game
Idk how Korea reacted, but I can see why Japan was so angry.
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>>544232272
>>544235963
Feet.
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>>544235963
Nice butt and boobs! And uh feet, I guess....
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>>544236424
>>544236438
Perverts!
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>>544236707
Just being polite
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>>544236707
You like it though?
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>>544236746
That's rude!
>>544236772
In your dreamss
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>>544236894
It was a compliment tho
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>>544236894
Foot.
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why did the elie tranny turn into a shizuna tranny
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>>544236982
they were always the same
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>>544232897
I struggle to find a worse example of power creep in this series than fucking Kasim.
>Introduced as le "STRONGEST" Jaeger.
>A relatively young upstart who all he has going for him is that he can shoot a giant laser gun. No practitioned martial arts like several of the known sword masters in the series, no supernatural bullshit like Ouroboros' top dogs, and isn't a seasoned Jaeger vet with decades in the field like Rutger and Baldur were.
>Yet is somehow completely on the level of Divine Blades.
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>>544235661
they don't want to waste effort.
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>>544236942
Your compliments are weird, anon
>>544236953
No foot for you
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Was there a rivalry between Shirley and Rixia?
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>>544236707
>>544236894
>>544237149
You keep drawing attention to yourself in this manner
You're perverted
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>>544237149
Well no more for you then
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>>544237348
No... I'm just posting things... None pervert things
>>544237353
What does that mean, anon?
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means no more kind things maam
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>>544237510
Yet you seem to like the attention you get from the reactions, you perv
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>>544235302
yea he said that

>>544235661
based on final grim garten floor im hoping(coping) we go to valis in kai 2
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>>544237102
its always funny to me when you have otherwordly beings, top tier divine blades and sword masters

but this guy who wields a big ass.... robotic sword is calling himself the strongest
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>>544235346
swin and nadia arent popular among fans. The new writers themselves love nadia and swin thats why every game they appear they have their own routes notice that every game with them is routes that they are a part of
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>>544238476
They were popular....until Kai
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>>544238476
They were fun in Haji though
But I guess that was mainly Lapussy and Chadfus carrying the load
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>>544238017
Nop
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>>544238859
haji they were good. kuro 2 they were cringe and their arc was bad. daybreak 2 localization upped the cringe which didnt help. kai im mixed on them ill have to play kai 2 to decide what they will do with them in the rest of kevins story for kai 2 but so far im not impressed
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>>544239054
I fucking hate Swin/Nadia in kai they are retarded
>we dont kill anymore
>actually we might
so fucking stupid

Swin then acts all tryhard
Thankfully, they all share time with LP, Rufus and Kevin so they got carried, again
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>>544232897
It's not like Rixia ever did anything noteworthy in Zero/Azure.
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>>544239280
What Ive noticed it that I dont seem to like them as mc or temporary mcs like in kuro 2. Like with 1b and 2b in kuro 2. I think them as leads is not good because their arc is already pretty much covered in 3 and 9 book. But in games like hajimari and kai where they are just there to help out it works
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>>544239672
me on the far right
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>>544239736
Hi ogre
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>>544239812
Um rude. I'm not an orge
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>>544239885
Ogre!
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VGLanon, if you're here

This is why we can't run the VGL team
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>>544239978
it's a horse type thing
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>>544240118
You're a horse now, anon?!
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>>544239367
Hey man she danced a LOT
>>544240156
Always was
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Gay dance
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Rude
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You can't dance like Rixia can you
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I'm not a dancer
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Gay
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where is elie
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Here
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Kinda got used to posting Shizuna lol
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you're still eliesis to me
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>>544241456
I drink monster
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>>544241575
Do you smoke too
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Ew no
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Good
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>>544241284
When the Azure remake happens we'll get to see this in 4K ULTRA HD
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Gooner
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>>544241915
Good times ahead! 4KTV bros won
>>544242005
You're one too. Just quiet about it....
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I'm the most normal person here
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Agnes is an affectionate sweetheart. She's sweet and loving to everyone.
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>>544228174
>When does it get really good?
Cold Steel
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>>544233370
That'd be nice.
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>>544233370
Remove clown
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>>544237102
He has his own version of SU. The inner flame thing which seems to be exclusive to Kruga. It was enough to remove the corrosion. Divine Blade also has wide net in terms of power level. Rean was a Divine Blade in Reverie but he struggles to a defective Arios bot, which other versions were oneshotted by Arios. His laser gun is a meme but he's also legit with hand to hand..he mogged Shizuna in an exchange. If Katanawank and martial arts mumbo jumbo can have their prodigies, so can jaegers who are just good at fighting.
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Eliesis don't look...
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>>544237102
Hey man, his weapon is hard to use ok???
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Kondo here, the Calvard bridge game will have Rixia's son and Shizuna's daughter from a pruned timeline as the protagonists, and they will be set up in Kai 2.
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>>544245030
What is it
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Mustn't look directly...at him...
PREGNANCY IMMINENT
8 LEAVES 1 THRUST MAN
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>>544246220
What was his problem?
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>>544246335
Being right in a wrong world
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>>544246584
>Kanoe pointing her deliciously tight ass towards the screen
Between her, Estelle's plump ass in CS4/Haji and Analace, why are Liberl girls such butt sluts?
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>>544246584
Noel done right.
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>>544247640
Damn, she shits with that ass????
>>544248252
*wrong
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>>544249507
No, she doesn't poop
Liberl has no toilets
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>>544249680
>Liberlians are street-shitters
Oh nononono Liberjeets...
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>>544249879
Crossbell and Erebonia don't have them either
Only Calvardians can poop
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>>544249507
Noel done wrong is Noel.
Kanone never flimsily betrayed her ideals.
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Her ideals are centered on sucking a man's cock
That's like calling Weissmannfujo steadfast on her ideals
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Yes, Noel's are.
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I would've liked Lloyd more if he was angrier at the injustice he suffered.
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Didn't Lloyd live in Calvard for a few years? Why doesn't he know Van?
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This is kinda goofy looking
>>544250862
I mean in order to know van he'd have to meet the guy while he's on a job by accident, or actively look for him after hearing a rumor, van also likes keeping a low profile, so it's not like, impossible he wouldn't be aware of him
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>>544220837
Sky didn't do it to Crossbell
Nothing in Cold Steel comes close to the Azure Demiurge in power which is why the final boss of Reverie is the Azure Demiurge again except without KeA's mind in it to hold it back
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>>544250862
He said no spoilers
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>>544251738
I meant CS didn't do it to Crossbell
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Sexstelle
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>>544246004
Your kid
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>>544242234
Cutenes
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>>544233370
no
the people in charge are evil and abuse their power
fuck crimson and fuck clown
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On act 2-B, this games seems like it's gonna be pretty short
Also this stealth gameplay sucks
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based 4kchad dicking on the poors
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>>544258454
I still can't believe that brought back the trailing missions.
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>>544258670
its not bad in kuro2 because you can cheese it a bit and finish it quickly
but in kai where they fixed the little cheese you could do and made it far longer

fucking kek

fuck falcom
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>filtered by a tailing mission
kisekoids literally can't function without cheese lmaoo
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>>544258454
act 3 is like half the entire game
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>>544258454
This shit sucked total ass in Judgment so I seriously cannot believe that a dev at Falcom thought "yeah we should 1:1 copy this for our game!"
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>>544258754
Still hated it.
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>>544250108
Her ideals is just Richards' dick
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>feel like playing kiseki
>actually playing kiseki
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>>544258986
Kisekicucks would be getting hard-filtered by the easiest of Metal Gear Solid missions KEK. When we talk about low skill-ceilings among Japanese games in general, Kisekifags, especially the uppity Skyfags that overhype their shit arc would easily place among the bottom percentile.
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>>544258986
>>544263417
Why are you retards acting like this is me having a skill issue rather than the stealth section just being boring and poorly done? The section was easy as hell
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>tfw still not pregnant after all these years
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HAHAHAHAHA next year's game is basically confirmed to be kyoto xanadu because the 2nd last pic of calendar has just been revealed to be an Enami illustration of the SSS and we know one of those two pictures was going to be Kyoto Xanadu related.
We are basically now 100% not getting Kai 2 next year but maybe we will get SC remake alongside Kyoto Xanadu at the best case scenario
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>>544269149
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW THE SSS LOOK AWFUL IN NU-ENAMI'S STYLE
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>SSS in Kai2
Kino.
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>ear raped by Singa
>eye raped by Enami
Falcom is donezo there is no saving grace at this point
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>>544269616
KeAs head looks malformed and I cant unsee it.
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>>544269149
What if we get Kai 2 and Tokyo Xanadu 2 next year while SC is a 2027 game?
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>1st remake flopped hard
>Falcom identifies the problem was no time jannies
>delayed to 2027 to add in time jannies
kino timeline
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>>544270267
The only thing that flopped was your asshole, Ragecuck
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Ragecuck will never be a thing
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>>544252042
That's because Crossbell was written with CS in mind, and both parts complement each other.
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>>544270925
just like the sn*kstelle fanfic lol
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>>544269149
this nigga turned KeA into an abomination, holy fuck
0/10 would not headpat
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Claire dindu nuffin
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>>544273217
public spanking
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>>544269616
Tiocute and Randy look fine.
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I want a Rean solo game.
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>>544274298
Randy looks like Trandy.
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>>544270267
It flopped because no coom. Next game gets plenty of pantyshots and sexy DLC like in good old days. Plus Blackrock sells their stock. Best timeline.
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>>544276185
Or because it flopped Blackrock buys more stock to bail out Falcom. The more Sky fails, the more likely it is the next MC will be black.
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>>544276185
>turning tita into a cumslut
too far
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If Kondo is smart, they'll add the CS2 intermission chapter at the end of the Trails to Azure finale to raise hype for Cold Steel and Rean for first time players.
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>>544278327
Won't that make CS2 even more pointless?
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>>544277429
It's in-line with her canon CS self. All she does is lusting for Agato's fat veiny adult cock.
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>>544278492
But Agate doesn't want to sex the Tita...
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Cute and canon!
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>>544278492
she was cute and innocent before she met her...
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>>544278570
>But Agate doesn't want to sex the Tita..
Meanwhile CSIV
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>>544278458
>even more pointless
I wouldn't call CS2 pointless, but I can see how that change would take away from the impact of CS2's finale.
On the other hand, it'd leave first time players curious to find out how things might have come to this. It'd be possible if they turned Rean and Altina into hooded figures, or if the scene ended right before Rean catches up to Rixia and Lloyd.
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>>544278791
It's brotherly love.
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>>544278327
>>544278915
one of the worst ideas I've ever heard
retard
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>>544278979
nyo...
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>>544279246
don't forget the age gap, falcom's fetish
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please no more hooded or masked figures, i can't take it
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>>544279018
Why?
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>>544269149
The arc is officially dead
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>>544201249
Still lolis get the best asses in Kiseki.
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Please more hooded/mask figures. We have yet to have our own version of Organization XIII and Kiseki could take some cues from a much more popular and well-writen series like KH and introduce an aura-farming group like them.
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>>544273217
Oneesan!
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Cute and canon!
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>>544280104
Sorry Lloydcuck, but the canon pairing for Lloyd is LloydxCement, the only one who he canonically has kissed. Rixia's canon pairing is the BGC(Big Gouran Cock)
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>>544280467
who the fuck is gouran
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>>544278492
ZAMN
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>>544279958
We're fighting Organization IXS in Kai 2.
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>>544278492
Pedo games...never gets discussed
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>>544278737
Love changes girls.....
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>>544281035
kek
Do you know where I can find that picture of Rixia he had lost during his quest in CS1?
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Cold steel remake will merge 1/2 and 3/4 into two games, remove the bloat and finally bring it up to the level of the previous arcs.
Or maybe not.
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Crossbell remake will merge 1/2 into one game, remove the bloat and finally bring it up to the level of the previous and following arcs.
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Calvard remake will merge 1/2/3/4 into one game, remove the bloat and finally bring it up to the level of the previous arcs.
lmao
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>>544282175
>>544282292
They'll crank it up. More anime, more mecha, more loli, more autism.
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>>544282438
Based.
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Sky remake will extend the arc to 5 games, with Estelle saving western zemuria in sky 4 and eastern in sky 5, salvaging and finally finishing this bloated series.
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Sky remake should have merged FC/SC into one game with the 3rd as DLC, removed the bloat and finally bring it up to the level of the continuing arcs.
But Kondo got greedy again.
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>>544269149
That enami art is horrid.
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>>544282175
This is the worst take I have seen all week.
Terrible idea. retard
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I skiped sky remake cause original is already perfect, but i would unironicaly buy cold steel one is they actually add more members for the harem (lolis) and extend dating mechanic so that your choices will transfer to the latter parts of the arc.
And maybe fix the story by removing cringe, i don't know.
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>>544283306
Harem canon time in CS and Azure!
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>>544282438
They will split Azure in half, with the final chapter being its own game.
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>>544281072
All you do is spam ZAMN or sex every thread my dear gaia.>>544281072
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>>544283628
Natural response to SEXY girls
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>>544283628
ZAMN. Exposed
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>>544283706
I know its you despite not being on the falcord for years because I remember vividly you being the most cringe person on falcord
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ZAMN bro you ain't have to call me out like that
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>>544284086
>Admitting to ever falcord user at one point yourself
You are just as cringe as he is. Rope yourself. Immediately.
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>>544284086
You replied to the wrong guy, retard. I don't use fagcord
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The falcord's unironically the best place to be as a Trails fan. Reddit and twitter kiseki is fucking cancer full of hoodweebs and fujo woketards and /fg/ is schizo-central. Falcord damn well wins by default.
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>>544284226
You've used it too so don't pretend you're not a hypocrite. Don't bother denying it either.
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They will give Noel and Wazy actual character growth in the remake.
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They'll give Noel a fatter arse in the remake
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>>544284714
rixia will be updated too
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>>544283413
They should make your choices and feats carry over in all of the remakes. If you fuck up a quest in Sky the 1st and don't reach maximum BP by the end of the game, Joshy and Estelle will still be B-rank bracers once you meet them again in Crossbell and Cold Steel.
If you pursue different girls in Zero and Azure as Lloyd, there'll be a funny scene where he meets both of them in an awkward moment during Azure's final bonding event.
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>>544285424
Quartre looking like xhe wants Van to spank xer troon ass as well.
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>>544285862
It’s hard to say if he wants to be next or if he’s just using his social status to watch.
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>>544285342
Too muchu worku
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>>544279572
Because that section is meant to show the strife between two heroes who are forced to clash
If someone played it without knowing who tf Rean is the entire point of it gets lost
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>>544284495
so why are you here
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Surprised Xanadu is actually almost done I thought the new team would struggle harder to make it
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Maybe development started sooner
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Anons, have the XSEED fags injected the XSEED fan fiction and replaced GungHo's MTL slop already?
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>>544287070
They reused Kuro and Sky assets.
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Cyrus Bright, we jumpin yo ass first chance we get
It's on sight nigga
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>>544286403
TRVKE
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>>544287070
That’s true. Still surprised though just because it’s a smaller and new team
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Can’t go one thread without trigged trans and guys into femdom derailing the thread huh.
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XanaduGODS won
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>Sorry Lloydcuck, but the canon pairing for Lloyd is LloydxCement, the only one who he canonically has kissed. Rixia's canon pairing is the BGC(Big Gouran Cock)
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Is Kai 2 sales even more fucked if it releases 2027 instead of 2026?
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>>544287636
But enough about closeted transexual paedophile Lunar, who did a charity stream for Ys vs Trails and received no monetary gain.
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>>544287636
Anonny???
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>>544287829
Probably. They didn't show up for Kai and those that did shat on it. China/Taiwan only care about Sky/remakes.
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shizunasis?
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>>544287636
That’s just what happens when more westerners get into anime games especially ones that are otaku catered like kiseki
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>>544288072
Gone. Wage slaving and playing Ys
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Shizunatroon x Vankid
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>>544288074
Yeah it’s only a pain because rules against them never gets enforced while stuff not breaking them gets removed
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>>544288037
Dam, I mean I know Kai 2 needs more time because of the increased animations and space stuff but still 3 years is too much. 2 years was perfect
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time to discuss /fg/ femanons
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>>544288482
>2 years was perfect
Nah, 2 years are fine in between arcs. Two years between games of an arc, especially if the prior game ends on a cliffhanger makes me lose all interest after that amount of time. People lose interest and the hype dies down. 1 year is the best for game releases within an arc.
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I guess this means Ys XI is 2028.
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>>544288678
The bored samefag needs to kill himself.
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>>544288482
More time doesn't mean they'll fix anything. Kai had like two years and it didn't matter
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>>544288678
Most are gone....reduced to atoms....
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>>544288734
Calvard is really ruining Falcom.
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>>544288678
They all need a good spanking
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>>544289050
No, falcom is ruining Calvard. The arc could've been fine if they kept up the quality of previous games and didn't gun for a completely new concept that appeals to foreigners.
They even got a real famous VA for Van, possibly their most accomplished cast yet.
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>>544288727
Yea but one year is why games like cs2 and cs4 existed. Kai had better character interactions and story than both of them
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>>544289257
Which concept appeals to foreigners? Less fanservice and boob grab? Or the action to turn based battle system?
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>>544289257
>They even got a real famous VA for Van,
They did that for Rean as well.
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>>544289351
>Kai had better character interactions
That game barely had anyone interact. Literally, a gimped Reverie.
>story
Kai barely has a story. Just endless Edith and another repeat of mcguffin hunting.
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>>544288727
The wait between CSII and CSIII perfectly managed to keep people's hype and expectations to a maximum. The problem is that we got two filler arcs in a row for Calvard, while previous games were full of content. So while it felt satisfying to play Zero, Azure, CSII or CSIII on their own and wait for the continuation, the Kuro/Kai feels like you haven't actually 'finished' anything proper yet and are blueballed into waiting for a conclusion.
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Were you good while I was gone? No melties?
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>>544289769
yes!
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>>544289351
lol
not sure if bait or vankid
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>>544289517
>action to turn based battle system
Nta but this. Kondo admitted to it. Not sure if other parts besides combat were also made for foreigners
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>>544289517
All of those as well as a focus on immigration and racism, white guilt and LGBTQ+ topics (Quatre).
Literally no one in the fandom asked for those.
>>544289639
What other roles did he have?
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>>544289873
Hard to believe...
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>>544289892
I mean it’s my opinion I’m allowed to prefer one game over the other right? Plus cs2 and cs4 don’t exactly have good scenes like Agnes and Elaine second connect event or the Agnes rejection scene.
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>>544290098
Your wrong all the geofront and NISA people asked for this. Reddit westerners/trannies wanted it too. So did floofy
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>>544290138
vankid it is
you should play the games, they're quite good.
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>>544290329
Then give an example of good scenes from those two games that compare to what I mentioned for Kai then? Can you back up your talk?
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>>544290329
nta but funny how the same applies to you here, play Kai it's pretty good
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>>544289257
>completely new concept
what concept.
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>>544290068
>>544290098

Yea it was strange falcom started introducing action based combat in kiseki and lgbtq topics. I mean there are games that have that stuff like somnium but kiseki takes it to another level with quatre. I think Kuro 2 is still the biggest problem though
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To truly save Kiseki Falcom needs to ditch the turn based shit entirely, ditch the boring bloated towns, ditch the boring quests no one gives a shit about, and make Kiseki an ARPG in the style of Ys Origin or at least Nayuta. It would not only save Calvard, but save this slop series as a whole.
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Kiseki needs more zionism.
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>>544290430
Rean meeting Crow atop the Pentagruel and awakening his Spirit Unification for the first time blows any Kai event out of the water, and so does the Crossbell intermission.
Jusis' initial reunion with Rean, his thorny path to stand up against his father and being confronted with the burnt down remnants of Cedric are still some of the best pieces of side character writing in the series.
To name just two examples.
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>>544290686
I remember Nips complaining about it. It's kinda incredible that they did everything to piss them off. I assume they're gonna course correct hard next arc. That or they'll end the series in like 3 games.
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>>544290864
What about for cs4 then?
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>>544290864
>anything involving Rean or Crow
>blows any Kai event out of the water
hahaha there's no way your taste is that shitty right?
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>>544290809
No happening Agnes.
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>>544290809
Can’t, NISA changed vagrants Zion to diaspora because of the Israel stuff going on past year before daybreak 1 release
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>>544289351
>cs4
Yeah and it's one of their best. Don't pretend CSIV is universally shit. Japs loved it, was ranked 4th of their favorite Kiseki. Only westoid peasants hate it.
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>>544290864
Based.
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>>544290098
Soul Eater Evans, Midnight from Fairy Tail, the Infinite Stratos protagonist, and Roxas and Ventus from Kingdom Hearts. Of course there's more after he became Rean, but these are probably the biggest ones.
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>>544290769
They just need to end it the series to save it, really it's been over since CS3 already.
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>>544291161
>Japs loved it, was ranked 4th of their favorite Kiseki
The 7 vancord servers disapprove this.
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>>544290864
You should have said Rean saving Alfin. That was cool.
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>>544289762
>The wait between CSII and CSIII perfectly managed to keep people's hype and expectations to a maximum.
Because they are basically two sub arcs with a large time skip in between and a complete change of setting. CS1 and 2 are basically one arc, finishing of the first half or Erebonia. Kuro 2 -> Kai however or Kai 1 and 2 would be direct follow ups with no time skip.
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>>544290912
Idk after sky the first changes when it comes to no coom dlc and the west fanbase growing I think falcom will appeal to both west and japan equally which is unfortunate because we play these games because they are Japanese in the first place.

We will know the truth if falcom musters the courage and makes Agnes canon or bring back the harem which would PISS the fuck out of the western fanbase
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>>544291534
They won't. They did that with Calvard and no one here bought it. They'll go back to appealing to Japan because if they don't, they'll loudly shit on the games again. Harem also isn't that big a deal.
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>>544291856
I get what you’re saying but they are still getting a lot of sales from the west to the point where west is very nearly the same as Japan when it comes to game sales. They appeal to who buy their games. Both Japan/asia and west buy it so they are finding a medium that tries to appeal to all of them(which will fail of course)
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>>544291374
That's pretty much the Spirit Unification scene he described.
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>>544292089
Sales/Profits etc collapsed here. We know from Nisa's reports. And trying to appeal to everyone means you'll appeal to no one. The first 3 arcs didn't need this western push.
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ps6 handheld will save falcom
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>>544292642
This. Trvst...
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>>544292532
Aren’t NISA reports because they are publishing less games compared to 2022-2023?
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>>544292727
They released Daybreak 1 and 2 in the same fiscal year, and profits still collapsed. No one here is buying the games. Meaning a western push is completely pointless.
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A game that contains all my fetishes will save Falcom.
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>>544291261
Oh nice, I never played KH jp dub but I definitely recognize him in Soul now that you say it. I might need to rewatch it now to fully appreciate his voice.
I always disliked how the anime ended since the manga went on for much longer, but it is what it is.
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>>544292703
>kondo announces crossbell remake just as ps6 handheld comes out
>kiseki returns to vita era sales
the man with the plan...
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>>544293724
kinooooo
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>>544290864
Nta but Jusis never really struggled deciding what to do, so much as he did accepting his clearly uncaring asshole father is an uncaring asshole as portrayed in his first scene.
Helmut is like male Irina. Didn't find Rean and Crow talking that cool, but different strokes. I can at least respect that.
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>>544291534
>We will know the truth if falcom musters the courage and makes Agnes canon or bring back the harem which would PISS the fuck out of the western fanbase
If the edgy JC cunny is no romance interest we will know.
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>>544291526
True enough.
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>>544293989
Nta but at least the game makes it more clear why helmut treats Jusis like bird shit irina they barely elaborate the effects franz’ death had on her causing her distance form Alisa and more towards her occupation
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>>544291534
>>544291856
>>544292089
Why do they try to appeal to anyone anyways?
People bought the games when they barely had any politics in it.
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Agnes needs her butt spanked
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>>544294601
I don't think they appealed to anyone pre Kuro. They just made whatever they wanted. That's how it should be.
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>>544294601
Like i said i dont like it either I’d rather falcom just do what they want without western influence. Im just saying thats just what happens due to the Japanese domestic market decreasing and had a huge negative spike back in may of 2025. I agree appealing to all is bad it’s why atelier yumia got bad reception. It doesn’t help that NISA made daybreak 1 worse by putting the pronouns line and daybreak 2 adding more modern zoomer lingo and genz girl talk. Daybreak 1 and 2 are games made for the people that hated cold steel and Rean with a passion and the tropes contained in them
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With Japan having their first ever female PM and she being hugely popular as well as smart it's all but guaranteed Calvard will have snap elections and elect a Far Eastern woman that will kickstart the next arc
Kondo is a genius and knows how to navigate trends
Trust the plan
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>>544295089
Just give me a hot young girl MC with fat tits. And set it up north.
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>>544294637
and her cowtits milked
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>>544294896
>Daybreak 1 and 2 are games made for the people that hated cold steel and Rean with a passion and the tropes contained in them
That would explain why it's a commercial failure. Imagine making games for people who disliked your most popular games yet lmao.
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>>544293724
Kondo is a genius.
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>>544295089
>She's ultraconservative and against LGBTQ
Calvard will be saved
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>>544295575
What Gramheart should have been. What a disappointment!
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>>544295089
>Rewind time in Kai 2
>Agnes is now the president of Calvard
Haha...
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>>544295745
MADAM president
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>>544295678
Nta but any antagonist after Osborne was fated to be disappointing in comparison. Give it one more game and we'll have a lowest point behind us and can get excited for new arcs again.
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>>544290809
The land of (((Crossbell))) was promised to Erebonia since 1200 years ago
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Anies' first executive order as president is removing all males from Calvardian society
They will only be kept on unmarked farms as livestock to periodically drain
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>>544295990
Good effort could have avoided that. They got lazy.
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>>544295089
>>544295575
She also disapproves of anime and ecchi tropes.
Conservatives are always a two sided blade.
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>>544296194
Dropped. Women CANNOT govern.
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>>544296332
THIS
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>>544296194
That’s unfortunate
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>>544296194
Good. Cold Shit and Calvard were severely dragged down by all the tropey anime shit and fanservice slop that was prevalent throughout both arcs. Hopefully she puts a ban on them so Falcom will actually have to return to their roots of what made Sky so good and won't be able to just fall back on incel-pandering slop.
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>>544296530
But we got Sky again, and almost no one cared.
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luv Adol
luv big man Lloyd
luv Kondo
luv Hatsuu

'ate Rean
'ate Van
'ate Rufus
'ate Kevin
'ate riboosee, floofer, cyrus
'ate Estelle

simple as
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>>544296194
>She also disapproves of anime and ecchi tropes.
Never let a femoid into power.
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>>544296194
Isn’t anime just fucked now?
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>>544296194
Not even just sexual she's also against violent media.
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>>544296756
>luv Hatsuu
Das rite
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>>544296804
Not enterally the Diet and make other members who artistic divisions are against her so she has some push back.
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>>544296734
Best-selling Kiseki game by far, so nice try Reancel.
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my post was about Kondo giving us a female president for Calvard, not an invitation for off-topic outrage please stay focused on what matters here
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>>544296530
You have not watched or played games that actually had a lot of fanservice and ecchi slop kiseki is tame compared to it. Weston’s truly are the reason that kiseki is dying
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>>544295254
Jk protagonist with light ryona cant be beat.
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>>544296530
HRT-riddled troon hands typed this post
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>>544296983
That’s good to hear
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>>544297005
It flopped twice. Nothing we can do about it.
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>>544296332
Based. The only thing a woman should govern is my dick with her mouth.
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>>544296982
The fact that she's single and not constantly impregnated proves every male within a 100km radius of her is a massive FAGGOT
There's no way she would not be worshipped daily if we lived in the same city
I would literally kiss the floor she walks on and dedicate my every waking moment to please her and make her happy
What is wrong with Americans????
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>>544297347
>What is wrong with Americans????
That is the question of the age my dear anon
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>>544297347
You have to remember that this was a hatsuu that was better and liked crude humor and fanservice. Now she’s a Californian we lost another one
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>>544296530
>>544297005
Vankid, just stop. You're causing me second hand embarassment. You will never pass as a Skyboomer even if you shit on your own arc to pretend.
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>>544296840
i fucking hate women so much it's unreal
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>>544297490
Nta but skyboomers are like this though. I know you don’t want to hear this and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Skytroons are…….. annoying ass people.
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>>544239498
The problem is, they're book characters who somehow become MCs with the Calvard arc casts really needing a lot of development, while Toval and Roselia, who are just as much of book characters as Swin and Nadia, play decent supporting roles.
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>>544297469
I can't believe it....we mourn for her.....
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>>544296194
>She also disapproves of anime and ecchi tropes.
First Blackrock and now this. Even less pantsu shots in the future. Falcom and Kiseki are doomed.
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>>544297019
>>544295089
How would that change anything? In the past, a woman president would've earned Calvard the ridicule of Erebonia and made them seem weak, but with the current Emperor there's no way we will see another Erebonian aggressor war ever again.
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>>544296840
it's the early 2000s all over again lel
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>>544297613
No... but I am a Skyboomer...
*disintegrates*
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>>544297469
Yeah she was one of the people who a very specific event happening destroyed her mind and entire outlook on life.
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>>544297742
It's absolutely, unequivocally, positively over
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>>544297653
I do that lip licking move now every time I have a drink haha Hatsuu has subconsciously feminized me... God I wish I could find hot men for her and then watch as she... gets... you know...
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>>544298114
Vankid...
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>>544298114
Anon, YOU, yes, YOU are supposed to do THOSE things to her.
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>>544297742
Kuka print panties should be more common in games.
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>>544298079
>>544297742
Hidden, sneaky pantyshots are fine. Modding the game into blatant coomerslop defeats the purpose of looking for those blissful angles.
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>>544298331
This
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>>544298079
>>544297742
I still blame a massive reduction of ecchi and fanservice to be the cause for Sky 1st flopping in Japan. Japs know what's important. If a new government strikes down upon fanservice it will massively hit the anime/game industry in Japan.
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>>544297623
Yea. It’s clear that their slight writers pet. Hopefully Kai 2 makes them a bit better although I do like them in Kai more than Kuro 2. Kuro 2 to me isn’t about “filler” or no progression I genuinely think it’s not a good game. People use character interaction as a coping mechanism for the game but even that falls flat compared to other games
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>>544296530
>>544297005
Sky is for millenial niggers who are genuinely dumb enough to think 2000s animeshit was good
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>>544297791
the 2000s was a weird chaotic time where one day a game was being censored and all mentions of japan were being removed to make the game take place in America and the next day we decided sonic needed a game where shadow kills cops.
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>>544298076
Which event?
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>>544297623
>>544298502
They feel like they are supposed to be the protagonist of some tokyo xandu style spinoff game ands were just inserted into trails.
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>>544298673
THAT event.....
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>>544298283
NO!! Having sex limits your visit, I would only be able to see Hatsuu's beautiful face right in front of me
But seeing her with someone else? I get to see WHATEVER I want
I can move around and witness every angle of her beautiful body
I can witness the majesty of a Goddess making love
How the penis enters her
How her nails dig into his skin
How her legs tense as she wraps it around his hips
I can become hypnotized by the beautiful sway of her breasts as passion leads to animalistic impetus
To have sex myself would limit the experience
To watch is to experience my Goddess in full
I LOVE HATSUU
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>>544298505
I miss booth babes so much
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>>544298879
ANON NNNOOOOOOOO
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>>544299058
It's the harsh truth every male must one day face AND accept!!
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>>544298442
Are you one of the safe horny faggots? Anyway, I don't need a mod to see pantsu and nothing is hidden in the first place, anon. I only had to sprint and could just permanently watch pantsu. Sky 1st took that away from us.
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>>544299238
Look at her. I mean, really, LOOK AT HER! She's WAITING. For who? YOU!!!!!
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>>544299340
You know what……. After a long time of consideration I actually like her localizations and shit fanfiction and humor in the games and censorship’s in daybreak 1.
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>>544299519
No....you can't mean it.....
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>>544299340
My Goddess... The Universe itself pales in comparison to her divinity...
How can SHE be single??
Just imagine if *I* was given the chance to find well-endowed males for her to enjoy!!
Every weekend a new festival of joy and sex!!!!!!!
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>>544299339
Van being a detective like job should be able to lift up skirts to inspect them for clues.
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>>544299863
Anon, I beg you, stop this nonsense!!!!
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>another episode of "le transbian blogposters thirsting for a roastie fanfic writer"
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Sex with Fanfic Elise
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>>544300580
Uoh
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>>544300145
What love is more PURE and HONEST than the one putting Hatsuu above my own concupiscence??
I want her to be happy, I want to dedicate my life to her sexual fulfilment! What is wrong with THAT!?!?
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>>544300734
>What love is more PURE and HONEST than the one putting Hatsuu above my own concupiscence??
Wanting to plow Reanasis instead
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>>544300734
The love of not sharing!!!!
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>>544179528
Cute!
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>>544166674
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>>544300670
Imagine her being the cumdump of Class VII... of all of Thors... except for Patrick
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Kondo here, Kai 2 will feature a sex scene between Rean and Towa with a CG drawn by hakuleg.
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>>544301346
No....my pure sister.....
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>>544301558
Reanafemanon...
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>>544301558
Kino incoming.
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>>544300580
>Fanfic Elise
link?
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>>544300580
Whore
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>>544301801
You'll have to ask Reanasis, she's the one that talks about it
All I know is it has Elise in CVII
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Elisesis.....where are you.....
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>>544301960
>she's the one that talks about it
She made it up.
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>>544302056
She left us, just like Alfinsis, for being too cringe
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>>544302158
Owari da.....
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>>544300965
But sharing IS caring!
And what's more beautiful than your partner allowing you to see them at their most vulnerable and intimate?
She would be okay with me being there as she has SEX and MOANS and LOSES control! Maybe she would even bless me with the incredibly intimate task of cleaning her up afterwards...
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>>544302237
NO NO NOOOOOOOOO. Only YOU should see that!!!
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>>544302149
No she's talked about it before, I think the other femanons, the ones that left, read it too... even Fanfic Anon...
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>>544302398
All of them are the same person, and everything they talk about is a fiction.
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>>544297742
It's past the time you realize the golden-era of JP fanservice and ecchi has long, LONG been over. And between the ever-growing need to pander to westoid "modern audiences" and far-right tradcucks, it's never gonna recover. You want fanservice, it's unironically the gooks and chinks who now hold the mantle for that.
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>>544301567
Haha... but isn't the thought of that enticing? Your pure sister, tarnished by all the horny boys of Thors... maybe even seeking them out...

>>544301916
It's hotter that way, a pure girl getting corrupted into a cumdump...
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>>544302586
It's almost all gatcha now, tho. It's not looking too good...
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only girls should be allowed to corrupt other girls
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>>544302552
Do you have any proof of this claim? Or are you simply upset because all of them like Rean more than Van?
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>>544302772
She belongs to me and only me!!!!
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>>544302916
I remember Eliseanon... she would see pics like this and flusteredly post "enemy"
Just like Alfinsis used to do but even more autism
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>>544302916
Is that allowed
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>>544303104
good old times...
>>544303191
it is encouraged
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>>544302949
But Reanafemanon... she's just acting like big sis would, haha...
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>>544303104
Kek. I remember one of them talking about damm pokemon ships.
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>>544303294
Big sisters don't do that and I'm not a girl!
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>>544303527
Patrick...
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>>544303606
I'm not him either!!!!
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>>544303345
That's how you know they were real (but still autistic) girls
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>>544303791
Come back to us.....
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>>544303972
Let Kloe go!
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>>544303883
They will never return and it's because of you
While the rest of us treated them equally, you worshipped and made a huge deal out of there being women here
Now women don't want your desperate ass dogging them so they will refrain from ever showing themselves
Well done, pathetic loser
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>>544304092
I didn't do that. Not the guy always asking for cream or whatever
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>>544304035
Haha...
AlrNo.
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>>544304350
Kloe didn't do anything wrong!
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>>544303270
Should it be...?
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>>544303972
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>>544304092
Fanfic Femanon sharing her big, beautiful Britbong badonkadonk would have made Reanasis happy
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Rean would fall for Kloe desu
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Kloe is that powerful....masaka....
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kloe would fall for me
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Estelle fell for Kloe so hard she says she wishes she had a penis to make Kloe a mother
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>>544305869
We don't appreciate fatty selfies here, ma'am
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Estelle really is thai....
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>>544305869
I look like this
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Reminder that Blackrock made Falcom Retcon Anelace into no longer saying she wants a BOYfriend like Joshua
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It's so fucking over......
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>>544306512
Blackrock general, newfag
You can piss right OFF
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Anelace wants a GIRLfriend like Tita
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No....
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Tita will be corrupted away from Agate... and Erika will approve of it too!
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Playing Kiseki while Hatsuu has sex on my bed!
Getting distracted and missing out on key plot points due to her loud moaning!!
Cleaning semen from Hatsuu's big tits with my tongue!!!!!!!!
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I TOLD you to STOP!!!!!
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>>544307905
Why do you HATE me!?!?
Under my reality I would help you have SEX with HER! I am not your FOE!!!!!!!!
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Sorry but that's not Blackrock approved, you must hand over your Kiseki games and your license
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>>544308170
You will NOT be in the room while we got at it!!!! Fuck her YOURSELF!!!!
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Sir this is against Texas State Law, any further outbursts will see you registered as non-white
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>>544308293
That's SILLY! I can't see MY penis enter HER! I need to see YOUR penis entering HER!!
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>>544302916
>>544303270
You're that one that thought you had a chance with Fanfic Femanon aren't you?
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>>544308612
THAT is not NORMAL BEHAVIOUR! STOP THIS AT ONCE!!!!!
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>>544308786
Are you SCARED you will LIKE my idea??
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>>544308972
No!
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You keep talking about cocks and SHE will appear... demanding "proof"
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>>544296194
Don't forget that she's all in on legal immigration from India.
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>>544303972
>wearing clothes
>crotch belt
For what purpose?
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>>544309043
You... Are you a man?
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>>544309038
It's okay, we can forget Hatsuu and I will find you a well-endowed male... you just have to promise I can watch!!
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>>544309367
NOOOOOOOOO
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>3DPD
>large breasts
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>>544309484
Haha... I will give you time to PONDER the idea and come to terms with this new fetish swirling INSIDE of you!
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>>544309183
Clothing bukkake
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>>544309595
Snekstelle/EVOsis... Do you have small breasts?
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>>544308706
no my only interaction with a femanon was when i was called an enemy for posting yuri images or something
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>>544309595
>Evo art
Automatically wrong.
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>>544309987
I see.
I miss those two...
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>>544309675
GROSS
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>>544309980
I am not "Snekstelle" and I am a cisgendered male.
>>544310071
Wrong.
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>>544309980
Do YOU have a small PENIS?
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Snekstelle anon... the other one that wanted the attention of fanfic anon...
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>>544302586
Aside from being gacha shit, chink ecchi is nothing like Japs ecchi and fanservice. It's like a bootlegged version made by communist subhumans who don't understand the spirit. Moreover China is deliberarely destroying and devouring the Japanese market. It's all mandated by the CCP: first destroy the enemy, then enforce censorship internationally as they do domestically and since no competition is there, either bought by their CCP companies like tencent or destroyed, they have a total monopoly. China is the cancer and the enemy, moreso than even Blackrock.
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>>544310218
>cisgenedered male
>likes Evo art
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>>544311042
So you're a tranny who likes ugly, amateurish art?
Sasuga, trannies.
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I love science shit on my JRPGs
If Trails doesn't have a 20h long scifi space station dungeon as the grand finale I'm gonna be so sad
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>>544312883
>she can't appreciate soul
It all makes sense now, haha...
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>>544313058
It'll have sci-fi stuff probably. Not sure about the space station though
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>>544257773
>>544242234
It always seems a little weird to me to call obviously hot/sexy girls cute
Not a bad thing though
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>>544313204
Reminds me of the prank where someone posted AI-generated images of Sonic that looked like a child drew them, people posted SOUL and SOVL, then they revealed that they were AI-generated and people got mad as fuck.
"Soul" is a word NPCs mindlessly parrot without even understanding the meaning of. They don't understand the meaning of it because it has no meaning because if you ask 10 people what it means you'll get 10 different responses.
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>>544313058
20 hour long space station final dungeon would be awesome. The series does need something unusually epic to finish it. What's been the longest final dungeon so far?
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>>544313625
>What's been the longest final dungeon so far?
Was it Ao?
Ao was long as fuck.
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>>544313478
My condolences but we aren't all autistic Germans that can't understand subjectivism lol
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>>544313478
Hmm...
Yeah, nah.
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>>544313058
Azure tree is the longest
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>>544313798
Subjectivism should never be applied to the meanings of words. The meanings of words must be objective and static.
When the meanings of words are no longer objective and static, bad actors can manipulate public thought by redefining words ala 1984, e.g. "racism can only be perpetrated by those in a position of privilege and power."
OG Chaos Brand is not a gamble.
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>>544313478
I agree on people being stupid. Or at the very least they don't really think about things if the tribe tells them not to. Most people are pretty smart when they actually apply themselves and think and don't just regurgitate talking points from friends/family/society on topics they have a fuzzy understanding of just to belong.
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>>544314047
Joshy would get way too paranoid on weed - maybe even go full blown schizo.
Joshy is absolutely not someone who should touch weed.
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>>544314265
Cute sentiment, but largely meaningless
Words are subjective, and language living and evolving
You can't contain the entirety of society and impose your subjectivism under the guise of agreed-upon objectivism lol
If you want a dead language stick to Latin, I'm sure some retards here would appreciate a Latin patch for Trails
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>>544314761
>your subjectivism
Actually my entire post was entirely factual.
Especially the Chaos Brand part.
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>>544314858
Then you don't understand objectivism and are simply deluded into thinking your God complex permits you to impose your subjectivism as objectivism
Like pretending Chaos Brand isn't a gamble, when enemy resistance to it are largely randomly given
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>>544314993
A truly civilized society is one that holds certain truths as being objective and self-evident, such as stealing being wrong, the meanings of words being static and objective, and OG Chaos Brand not being a gamble.
A society which does not hold stealing being wrong as an objective, self-evident truth is simply a brutish shithole like the one Leonidas descended from.
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>>544315460
lol again my condolences for your autism it sounds rough
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A truly civilized society recognizes Estelle is Bestelle.
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anons here think stealing is good because Falcom makes 8/10 games instead of 10/10 game THOUGH
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Estellebros...
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>>544316878
No...
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Joshua doesn't have a penis in that model... Joshua isn't a boy...
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>>544315975
Making a copy is not stealing.
The victim no longer possess the stolen item when an item is stolen.
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>>544315894
Accurate post.
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>>544313749
Long and fucking boring.
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>>544319734
cool so I'll just borrow your house key real quick to make a copy surely you won't mind haha like you don't mind casting Chaos Brand on enemies resistant to it and wasting your turn thus losing your gamble as you would have no way to know their resistances before casting it(unless you cheat by looking it which would not make it a gamble, just as rigging a poker game stops it from being a gamble but originally both poker and chaos brand are gambles)
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>>544320368
tl;dr
also wrong
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>>544320904
I accept your concession
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>>544320209
Just like the entire CS arc!
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>>544320209
Just like 544321756's life!
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I just took the PERFECT Alisa.
11/10. HUMONGOUS, yet slid out effortlessly and left nothing at all behind on the wipe.
Man, nothing beats taking a perfect Alisa.
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>>544310287
My penis is large unlike Snekstellesis' tiny breasts.
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Male only thread btw
you got that WHORES!?
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>>544325103
Not male only, but I would recommend any girl here post a collage of pictures of their butt, chest, tummy and face.
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>>544325334
Fuck that.
No girls allowed ITT. You can only post here if you have a penis.
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>>544325391
I disagree, all women are welcome here. Especially if they post their privates and cute faces.
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544322330
I just took the PERFECT 544322330.
11/10. HUMONGOUS, yet slid out effortlessly and left nothing at all behind on the wipe.
Man, nothing beats taking a perfect 544322330.
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>>544327209
Replying to posts without the >'s is passive-aggressive woman shit.
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Not like having beef with a niche video game character is any manlier lol
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A GIRL vidya character no less kek
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Oof
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>>544325391
She will ask again... for proof...
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>>544315894
Estelle
Bestelle
Buttsmelle
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>>544331802
Are you a man?
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>>544327687
rofl that shut him up so quick
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when kai 2?
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>>544337826
Now.
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>>544337826
After Ys X: Prouder and Louder
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>>544335749
Reanafemanon stop, no more cocks for you
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>>544337826
2030, after Sky and Crossbell remakes
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>>544337826
Either end of 2026 or end of 2027
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>>544343242
>Shizuna's swimsuit is just a recolor of Laura's swimsuit
The hacks at Falcom should never have been able to get away the sheer level of rehash recycling they've done.
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ok boomer
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>>544343242
good sword autist
>>544343817
bad sword autist
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>>544343817
Who cares nigga they're both sexy and make my dick hard and that's all that matters
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I don't find Shizuna particularly hot. Too lanky and has a major derp face.
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>>544343242
>>544343817
They should settle who's rocking that swimsuit better with a sex battle
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Ew gooners
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>>544313749
Haven't even hit 50 hours yet and I've already beat Demon Wald. I don't see it tacking on another 40 out of nowhere.
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>>544313625
I recall thinking Azure's was long. I'd give it to CS2 if you count the IC and everything after it.
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Ragecuck asshole status?
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SSS ROUTE IN KAI 2
KEVIN ROUTE PART 2
REAN ROUTE PART 2

VAN.. gets an special episode... haha..
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People really have given up trails now which is why this thread is moving slow. Just let the general die
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erpfags grand master plan worked

he got his nut off as well as killing the general
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>>544301801
>>544301960
It's the Ashen Maiden one over on AO3.
Rean never got adopted by the Schwarzers and Elise ends up in Class VII, transferring from St. Astraia. Starts off with some relatively small changes but they ripple out quite a bit, leading to things like Millium joining Class VII before Heimdallr, Musse having a bigger role earlier on since she's one of Elise's closest friends (and having some better characterization, in all honesty), and Alisa and Elliot getting together as a couple.

>>544339028
lol wasn't me.
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>>544344502
Now under ownership of Van Arkride
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>>544347157
How do /we/ feel about the fact she has the body of a whore now?
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>now
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>>544349271
JK are just as great as JC
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Who's van
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>Van
>All the girls wanna ride him
falcom's genius...
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>>544350291
A kiseki MC. Not the best, but better than Rean.
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>>544348867
>and Alisa and Elliot getting together as a couple.
Oh right, that fic is full of of Crack ships
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>>544348136
This general has been dead for years, it never recovered from the post-CSIV exodus.
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>>544233370
I'm all for us coming back
>>544234021
I had the idea of having Kincaid on the team so it can be an excuse to play his boss theme as a goal horn, though I don't know what he could be called as a player
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>>544351597
He’s called rat
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Vankek delusional again
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>>544351648
Yeah That was the idea to call him THE RAT thanks for reminding me
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Then again there are sooo many rats revealed in Kai but Kincaid got the name rat because he was close with mc
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>>544351701
You're an indian tranny lol
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>>544343817
They gave up. They don't want put any effort into it.
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>>544347998
Xanax won.
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>>544352825
*Xanadu haha
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Why does he like indians so much
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I don't know
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>>544233370
Bring back Tio and fire the stupid clown
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why do you feel called out tranny? kek
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>>544233370
Are we joining the league then? Because they're running out of space.
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Falcom actually is choking if they don’t make Kai 2026 they are fucking over the remaining people who buy the games in Japan lol. Does falcom hate the calvard arc lol
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>>544355004
There's no guarantee that the remaining people in Japan will like it. They might shit on it even harder. They're cutting their losses with Calvard.
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>>544354740
pretty sure right now it's a race between us, /digi/ and /indie/ for 52nd.
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>>544355454
Yea but if it’s the end of calvard they will feel better about it. The biggest complaint with Kai for them is there’s a cliffhanger and it didn’t end. Kai 2 ending the arc will be better for them. It’s the same thing with cold steel 4 Japan loved it but hated cs3 cliffhanger
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>>544356080
I don't get it, surely this 'race' is over as soon as anon signs us up
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>>544357054
One of biggest complaints was also the Van route in general. They can't get around that so delaying it as soon as possible makes sense. Remakes and a different IP is much easier work with a lower chance of backlash even if they do worse in sales.
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>>544357548
Did kai get more complaints than even cs3? That’s crazy if that’s true jp didn’t like cs3 which is surprising since it takes place in similar setting to cs1
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>>544358131
Kai was the first time Japan had a loud negative reaction to a game. Loud enough that a shareholder asked about it. That's never happened before.
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>>544357303
well he hasn't yet. don't know what's taking him so long
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>>544358308
Yea that was shocking. Figured it would have happened for Kuro 2. A lot of jp to English translators I watch even agree with the shareholders that Kai had a lot of repetitive and vague text constantly just like the shareholders was criticizing. Kuro 2 is filler but Kai is padded the fuck out even more than cold steel 4.
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One (1) historical event
Thirty-eight thousand (38,000) kids in an airship
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Some of us have been "laughing" about Kondo's biannual "trolling" for far too long than we care to admit now, it's less of a joke and more concerning and tiresome at this point. Not everyone wants an endless amount of Trails games, especially the devs themselves. To anyone who isn't just mindlessly enjoying these games and actually wants the series to evolve, a lot about the Kuro games have inspired zero confidence in how they're handling the games at the moment, with Kai being no exception.
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Not even Rean can save the game
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Only the Grandmaster can do it
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>>544358375
>>544357303
Someone else can take a shot at it since the POI post is already created.
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Maybe Elie will save us
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Can't save bad writing
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Elie.....
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Fix the series, anon
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I can't....I'm a stinky gajin....and don't have enough money!
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Rob a bank, and make kiseki great again
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so was nordics/proud nordics any good? i see people saying it's amazing and i see people saying it's the worst one. i'm relatively new to the seriese but i don't think i've seen this many contrasting opinions even for 7 (which i love btw)
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So why did they go woke for the Sky remake?
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I've been bitching in these threads that I don't know if I should just continue with the originals or wait for SC remake. Decided to start SC anyway. Story is good so far (I'm towards the end of Chapter 1), but damn it's relatively hard even on normal. It just got a little easier now that I have 4 party members, but for a while it felt like I couldn't really do anything.

Also anyone play these games on Steam Deck, and do they work well if so? Just ordered one.
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>>544363357
your steamdeck will blow up with if you kusoge on it
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Cute and canon!
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Playing the series in order drives home how generic Sky's worldbuilding really was in light of the later games. It just seems silly to return to Liberl's random bunch of self-taught heroes with no school of martial art or swordsmanship to them after Crossbell and particularly Cold Steel.

In Crossbell and Cold Steel, you've got characters who graduated from Military Academies and spent their entire lifes in training halls to master the way of the sword, you've got established schools of swordsmanship (Vander, Arseid, One Blade Eight Leaves), established schools of spearmanship (Schleiden, Nord), martial arts for crowd control (Crossbell Police Academy), and people with a background of military training (Randy, Noel, Fie, Sara).
While in Liberl, you've got guys like Agate <the Heavy Blade> who made a name for himself by swinging a big, heavy sword around with no proper training or style of swordsmanship. You've got random Bracers using whips and sticks fighting on par with Ouroboros Enforcers in the same game Ouroboros was introduced as a dominating force. It's all so silly.

Agate has absolutely no business being on Rean's or Laura's level once he's reintroduced after their post graduation timeskip both of them have spent arduosly honing their swordsmanship.
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>>544368249
Don't forget the technological escalation of things compared to Liberl when they introduced mechas and other things. I still like the Sky games a lot but it was really simpler times.
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>>544368249
Falcom just had to make a better setting than the previous five Legend of Heroes games, which were even more basic. Trails in the Sky's setting is, at the very least, better than most JRPGs in the market.
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>>544368783
I mean, Sky introduced proto mechas before any of the other arcs had a chance. They were just made by Tita's family instead of gigantic tech corporations, and handed out to a little girl instead of soldiers.
Actually now that I think about it, Tita participated in the development because she wanted to face Renne with Pater Mater as an equal and bring her back, but ended up being not present in Crossbell when Renne had a change of heart, joined Joshy and Estelle, and Pater Mater died.
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>>544368249
martial art schools are peak shonenshit soullessness
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Reminder

Cold Steel 2 which is argubly the worse kiseki game is still better than most JRPGs.
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>the worse kiseki game
good morning saar
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>>544369108
Cold steel did this too when Alfin said in her second cs4 bonding event that she would confront Cedric but never did. Maybe in a future arc who knows
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>>544368249
Cold steel 1 and 2 hard carry the reputation this series has for its world building. Which is kind of funny since a lot of it was fought after the fact.
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>>544369292
A single panty shot is worth a 1000 lines of character development
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>>544368783
I could've saved her...
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>>544371240
That's my wife (rip).
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>>544368249
You named all that shit and guess what? In 5 Cold Steel games we barely know ANYTHING about the 8 Leaves or other any other school apart from their names, and pointless dialogue of some faggot HAVING to comment on how distinguished the school is.
Besides, the Sky crew fought giant mechas as is. The CS crew only does that like once and it happens all the way til Reverie.
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>>544372469
You are right, a lot of that talking is just filler. We never get to see anything we are just told things in those games.
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>>544369164
That I have played, I'd say I would rather play it over Tales of Graces, FF XIII and XV and Omega Ruby.
To me it's on par with something like Star Ocean 4.
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Even if kai 2 flops, every arc after it will flop as well.
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>>544369415
It's always funny to me when a history revisionist or shitposter goes on about Sky's superb worldbuilding and how Crossbell/Cold Steel ruined the series with that in mind.
Sky serves as a good foundation, but the succeeding arcs grounded the world of Zemuria and added actual, realistic worldbuilding and geopolitics.
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>>544358308
proof?
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I haven't played a game in the series since CS3.
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>>544373519
I don't think the series got ruined, but Sky's wordbuilding is apt for the scope of the game. It gets better in Crossbell and disagree CS does much of anything with it.
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>>544372469
That's bullshit from a gameplay perspective.
The school of court fencing, the Arseid school and One Blade Eight Leaves practitioners all have different, unique battle forms and craft animations in the games, differentiating practitioners of the various schools from each other. Jusis' style of wielding the blade is very similar to Friedel's and Patrick's for example, who share attack animations due to their mutual school of swordsmanship. The Arseid practitioners we see all use similar techniques as well, with Viscount Arseid generally having access to improved variations of Laura's crafts.
The origins of those schools are somewhat alluded to, like the Arseid school being born from the Lance Maiden's followers, but they literally do not matter. Do we need to know who invented these forms? We don't know shit about Zin's and Walter's eastern martial arts either, or who invented Joshua's dual wielding style, Lloyd's raw techniques or Yin's assassination practices. The fact remains that they're unique and established schools of martial arts.
>>544372736
That's not true. There is a lot of talking in kiseki games, as dialogue is necessary for its grand scope of worldbuilding, but that is not all there is to it.
Crossbell and Cold Steel have tons of events happening in them; CSII in particular is one of the fastest paced games in the series where important shit happens every chapter.
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>>544373519
I think most people on Reddit,falcord, and 4chan believe sky/crossbell did good and cold steel was the beginning of the fall. Crossbell was hyped to oblivion by the western fandom and I have no idea why
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>>544374517
It's not bullshit and this is some sad cope. Who the fuck cares if someone has some established school? We don't know anything about it in depth and that shit would make for good worldbuilding as well as for potential changes in gameplay.
Are you really telling me you think that if some throwaway line Tita is using the fucking Blitzkampf school of orbal cannon shooting invented by her mother, you'd be impressed or whatever? lmao
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>>544369164
That’s your opinion. At least cold steel 2 had a proper ending u like azure
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>>544375128
*unlike azure
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>>544375128
And Azure is light years better despite the fact...who'da thunk?
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>>544374548
>I think most people on Reddit,falcord, and 4chan believe sky/crossbell did good and cold steel was the beginning of the fall
Correct.
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>>544375536
Sure if you like characters falling off from relevancy besides Randy and wazy and rixia having locked final bonding events which are near impossible to get. Plus Noel’s whole arc was hands fisted and had no substance. No for sure azure is “light years” ahead of cs2
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>>544375052
>we know the different and unique forms and names of each school
>we know practitioners of each school and where they originate from
>we know of many practitioner's unique goals, motivations and doubts in the pursuit of their swordsmanship
>we know of rivalries among schools of swordsmanship and martial arts, as those practitioners engage each other
>this all "bullshit" because we don't know the name and origin story of who invented the art
You're being disingenuous for the sake of 'winning' the argument.
We actually do know NOTHING about the origin and name of Agate's swordsmanship, Schera's mastery of the whip or Joshua's dual wielding style. Why does he use it if no other Enforcer does? Who taught him these techniques? Why is Agate so strong with a two handed sword when he refused help from the military and there isn't another greatswordsman present in Liberl?

And you bring up a good point with Tita. Why can we bring her along to the final battle if she has no combat experience prior to meeting Joshua and Estelle and simply uses an orbal cannon because she's an engineer? They had to save her from random monsters at their first meeting in chapter 3.
That's much sillier than any complaint you brought up about Cold Steel's and Crossbell's characters who each make use of an established school of martial art or have a military background.
I'm sad to be subjected to this kind of dishonest argumentation.
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>>544374517
Bullying the Satania and the Doobs.
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>>544375984
Based.
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>>544376105
I love them both dearly.
That's why I want to bully them.
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>>544375814
You have once again proved my point. We know next to nothing about any martial arts, the Empire ones especially, in regards to philosophy. Knowing the names of the 8 Leaves forms is not good worldbuilding or illuminating. Knowing who practices a certain school or their fucking animations (can't believe you think this is a good point) ≠ knowing things about that school.
Tell me, what's the difference in goals between Kurt and Laura?

So yes, I would much rather learn the philosophy behind these martial arts, have the forms explained and their origins traced - basic shonen shit.
>dishonest argumentation
Hypocrite or just terribly oblivious?
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>the empire ones especially
lol
>>544375814
Stop falling for bait.
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>>544376402
Nta but Laura’s goal is to surpass her father and throughout the games she is learning about strength that doesn’t physically have her use her sword like practicing swimming and broadening her horizons about learning about does jaegar group. Plus in cs4 she overcomes her helplessness. Whole point of Atari’s is to learn that strength comes from within not just from sword.

With Kurt it’s him learning to overcome his insecurity of not being born with a built figure like his brother mueller. To be proud of wielding dual blades and accepting that the vanders getting kicked out of being imperial families bodyguards doesn’t reduce the swords value
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falcom worldbuilding be like
>meet roger he is the heir to the dancing swallow style and a member of the order of the flaming rose
ok what is the dancing swallow style and what are its core tenets and history and what does the order of the flaming rose believe in and when/why were they founded and who are their members
>uh... haha... just dont think about it bro - falcom
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>>544376596
Talk at length on anything regarding these schools. We know their names, their fame, some of the weapons one can use and that is it. And you are delusional if you think this is an exaggeration.
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>>544373529
The last shareholders meeting
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>>544372469
CVII fight against a mech at the end of CS1
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>>544372469
>>544379004
They also fight archaisms and a Muramasa model mech in Roer during CSII.
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>>544379606
Part of the end of CS2 also has them taking on the Vermillion Apocalypse for a time on foot.
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>>544380125
>>544379606
>Cold Steel haters didn't play Cold Steel
A tale as old as Cold Steel.
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>>544376402
I'm not fond of repeating myself; I've described why and how the schools of swordsmanship and spearmanship differ in previous posts. That's more in-depth worldbuilding than whatever you're comparing them to, but you seem to have lost the sight of what you were arguing for in the first place since you haven't actually brought up any example of better explored martial arts in the series.
>Knowing who practices a certain school or their fucking animations (can't believe you think this is a good point) ≠ knowing things about that school
Being introduced to the different masters, disciples, stances and forms of a martial art is exactly what you're describing: worldbuilding and development of the art as a whole.
How is this not a decent point to make?
>what's the difference in goals between Kurt and Laura?
Basically what >>544376734 described, you'd know that if you played the games or argued in good faith. Kurt feels inadequate as a disciple of the Vander school and desires strength to stand on equal footing with Mueller and his father, while Laura dedicated her very life to the Arseid style and pursues its perfection, not out of any obligation, but because that's what she enjoys and wishes to do.
>I would much rather learn the philosophy behind these martial arts, have the forms explained and their origins traced - basic shonen shit
Basic shounen shit would be to introduce a character with a giant sword and leave it at that lol.
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Laurafemanon...
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Erebonia is an arc for white males
Others just won't get it
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Thread?
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>>544386996
Let it die
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Why doesn't Latoya just summon a badass lawyer with her stupid gadgets?
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I don't really like how Rean doesn't talk much about his own swordsmanship, despite that being like his thing
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>>544388241
>>544388241
>>544388241
>>544388241
>>544388241
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>>544376734
>>544381815
He won't reply because you're right.



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