Edgy Yremeryss edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, The Elder Scrolls, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>544054243>Thread QuestionHow many companions in an rpg is too much, what's the limit?
>>544182740there is no limit, I should be able to run entire colonies of companions Kenshi style
>>544182740>TQ108
>>544182740>How many companions in an rpg is too much, what's the limit?6 is the limit, but fewer depending on the game.
Reminder that romancechads won, no waifus on cover = flop
Is Suikoden a crpg?
>>544182740>TQIn the group while adventuring? 6 people in a party (so you + 5 companions) is a good number, it lets you have a varied party and try things out. 5 feels odd, and 4 limits the party comp a bit too muchOverall amount of companions to choose from? 8-10, as it gives you variety while having few enough companions that the devs can make most of them good/interesting
>>544183003lol lmaoI can safely bet that at least Larry will fuck the femquistior's brains out
>>544182740I feel 5-6 is the max unless you almost get into SRPG territorry. 4 can feel a bit restrictive, especially with DnD like systems(you kinda feel you must go arcane, divine, melee and skillmonkey)
>>544182740>>544182871>>544183436>>544183543I meant overall number of available companions btw, not just party size, to clarify.
>>544182740stop using ai slop pics
>>544183598no
>>544182740>Edgy YremeryssAs opposed to what? Tradwife Yremeryss? Get out of here
>>544184137
>>544182740>How many companions in an rpg is too much, what's the limit?Everything that's over the party size limit is too much. Either expand the party size limit or curb your companion autism
>>544183593Oh that's very different. I like having a shit ton of them, BG1&2 style. It lets me accept perma-death or parting ways easier.
>>544183440>reading so many warhmmer novela>NEVER EVER read about an inquisitor having sexin the two most famous inquisitor warhammer 40k novels, eisenhorn has sex and multiple lovers. and ravenor is a cripple but talks about wishing he could have sex, specifically with a girl in his retinue.on that alone, you could argue that it's off-canon for an inquisitor to not have a romance
>>544184826this isn't a general for you to shit up with general 40slop trash, there are numerous other places for you to do that.
who are the good guys in 40k?
>>544184970check again, cuck
>>544185193Good guys?In 40K?Heh, let me stop you right there, kid. If what you're looking for is some "clean cut" morality within factions or races, well best keep on lookin' cuz ya ain't gonna find it here. WarHammer: 40,000 will take every single expectation you have and completely subvert it.It's the 41st Millennium, let that just sink in a minute ;)And here you just do what you gotta do to survive, period.It's considered "Grimdark" for a reason: Equal parts grim and dark. Deal with it.If that's too much for you to handle then run along back to your little He-Mans and GI Joes because this setting is NOT for babies.
>>544185193Tau are as close as it gets, and in most other settings they'd still be villains of the "everything seems perfectly fine, but there's something sinister going on behind the scenes" kind.
>>544185193The male eldar x female human couples
who are the good goys in 40k?
It feels wierd that your character can't pick a perk or 2 in character creation in rogue trader. Like how argenta comes with bolter proficiency, you should be able to pick a weapon proficiency+talent and which ones you can pick depends on your origin. Its kinda immersion breaking my priest doesnt know how to use a bolter or a flamer aka weapons warhammer priest are famous for using.
>>544185954Good goys?In 40K?Heh, let me stop you right there, kid. If what you're looking for is some "clean cut" penis within factions or races, well best keep on lookin' cuz ya ain't gonna find it here.
Fav crpg? I’d pick kotor1 or dao if I had to pick.
i wish they weren't reusing sisters of battle in the new onethey should avoid retreading shit we've seen before
>>544186682I mean they along with admech are a prominent faction in the imperium and chances are high that they workwith inqusitors
Dual pistol commisar or heavy bolter priest? I might give iconoclast a try for once.
bruh
>>544187061Anon I can't read that its to COMPRESSED
>>544187061
Boob window? You owe me sex.
which pair of companions?
>Bioware dismantled and EA getting bought by the Saudis>Obsidian getting laid off and possibly shut down soon>Larian making space slop>Owlcat making space slop>the entity once known as BethesdaWhat's next for crpgs?
>>544183003rpgs live and die by their romances these days
>>544188215jubilost and amiri.
>>544188698I'll keep telling you Veilguard flopped waifutard
>>544188664Space is the new thing since no one wants to be compared to Swen's gameIf he mogs them there too, they might be forced to scatter into more unique settings, ie the vacuum left by VTMB2 shitting the bed
If you want romance why not just romance someone irl?
>>544188819but it's romance options were shit
>>544188889Does irl have magic and elves and vampires and aliens and half dragons
>>544188980Still had romance. Game with romance = automatic success to you. Same with Pillars 2.
>>544188819>offer shit romances>it flopsnothing counters anon's claim, unless you think people were salivating at traash, a pajeeta, a DEI elf and gigglesquee pedobait
my favorite crpg is numenera.
>>544188889>every woman irl when anon starts talking about cuckoldry
>>544189110>>544189103The characters in OW2 are also ugly, you want that?
>>544189103>Statement is live and die by their romances>Still had romance. Game with romance = automatic success to you. Same with Pillars 2.Are you an ESL by chance?
>>544183440>LarryJust visiting this general to say I am happy my nickname for Laarthyr stuck around
>>544189405Literacy is at an all-time low
>>544189405>Statement is live and die by their romancesOh my god waifutard. You think any game with romance is a smash hit. You don't care about writing quality, you skip all dialogue just to see your self-insert get imaginary pussy.
>>544189580>You think any game with romance is a smash hit.That's not what the statement means, ESL-kun
>>544189478You didn't come up with it, its a obvious shorthand for his name.
who are the good guys in mass effect?
>>544189728>esl esl eslYou are literally Indian.And im still telling you, romance doesn't mean a game will be successful. Skyrim sold millions, are you going to say the shitty marriages is why?
>>544189060Yes they are just much more rare
>>544189060>he doesn't know
>Skyrimnot a crpgnext you'll bring up Fortnite and survival games
>>544189947The Protheans. All other races are primitive and evolutionary failures.
>>544189947Shepard and the crew duh
Fallout didn't need any romance, owlcrap just needs romance as a crutch because they make shitty games.
>>544190147The Elder Scrolls is in the op, checkmate
>>544190332dragon age is too, but veilguard isn't one
nobody talks about Fallout 1 and 2 (boomer slop trash) and we only remember Fallout 3 and 4 for the romances, you keep digging
>>544190220Fallout let me be a porn star
>>544190456We talked about Veilguard here and its Froogy's fav game
>>544189742Don't care. I was first to use it in this general and I will take credit and feel good about it thank you very much
>add 30 minutes of badly voiced romantic dialogues>fade to black>profit
>>544190756>badly voicedwhy are voice actors catching strays lolpay them what they're worth btw
>>544190756Its less than 30 minutes
Speaking of voice acting, will the DH alpha have any
>>544190553FO3 didn't even have romance so only FO4 countsNV didn't have romance and was bad so anon's point keeps getting truer with every post
>>544190850OK I'll pay them in wet sloppy farts
>>544190618>weNo we didn't, froglodyte sperged out about the game then fucked off
>>544191151How. Fo3 sold millions, NV has probably reached that number by now.
Mass Effect but Shephard is asexual
Do you think the miserable cunts here would even be capable of admitting that an obsidian game was good
>>544191309I talked about Veilguard, I played it btw.
>>544191484I liked Pillars
Wasteland didn't need romance.
>>544191484I have 1300 hours in NWN2. It is the only game they have ever made that I like.
>>544191484i liked alpha protocol, new vegas, and nwn2i think kotor 2 was meh
Underrail didn't need romance btw.
>>544191995>I have 1300 hours in NWN2. If you're not trolling how? is it not a single player rpg? how much content is there?
I can't wait to be cucked with full voice acting in Dark Heresy.
>>544192230Not trolling. There's not 1300 hours of content, but I have replayed it many times as I find it very cozy, especially once you get past the first act. I always have one game that I tend to replay over and over in between other games. NWN2 was that game for a long time before Skyrim replaced it, then I went back to NWN2 after I got bored with Bethesda stuff. Now though I think I've finally set it aside for good. The so-called remaster didn't interest me in the slightest.
>>544192651that's 1300-60 hours you could have spent replaying NWN modules
Do you think the miserable cunts here would even be capable of admitting POE was shit
>>544192775I played NWN1 too for a long time years before (before Steam), but don't like its gameplay overall as much and few fan-made modules interested me.
>>544192651Did you at least play custom campaigns and not just replay the official stuff over and over?
Do you think Sawyer lurks these threads and nods to himself whenever he says someone post "X didn't need romance" because he doesn't realize it's sarcasm because he's too old to understand 4chan
>>544193196sawyer is froggy
>>544193196This is a boomer website newfag
Possible contenders for crpg of the year in 2026 from most to least likely>dark heresy>solasta 2>clockwork revolution>banquet for fools>secret of the weepstone>swordhaven>legends of the round table
>whenever he says someoneESL
>>544193167I've played a few custom campaigns but its mostly the official stuff.
>>544193267I though froggys steam account got found, isnt he a g*rmen?
>>544193196Why would Sawyer lurk here. This place only talks about Owlcat, romance, and cucking.
Josh 'hushmoney' $0ywer was a half decent encounter designer at black isle that ass kissed and looked the other way to climb the ranks. he let MCA get kicked out while his mom had cancer for asking too many questions about Fargus's embezzlement. his hobby is performative wokeness while helping rich assholes. the recent lay offs is just another sign off in his ass kissing career of taking credit for other people's work
>>544193661you don't have to censor german, they're good peopleunlike frogshit the scat lover
$0ywer
This place doesn't even like crpgs. They just like bitching about how every crpg doesn't measure up to the mythical crpg they invented in their head that'll never exist.
>>544193762>german>good people
My mythical CRPG has you traveling all the lands to collect wives of various races to smooch.
>>544194057have you played ToEE lil zoom?
lol
Can 40gay crpgs have their own general?
*face turns read*IM NOT PLAYING A GAME BEFORE 2010, POST HARDER TO STOP HIM
>>544194057Hey, who else is high af anon and the one guy who really likes jagged alliance seem to legitimately like crpgs and dont just play the same few games from one developer over and over again then autisticly sports fag over them.
>>544194482>*face turns read*but /crpgg/ doesn't read
>autisticly sports fag over them.Your just mad that a majority of this general rightfully acknowledges that owlcat is the second coming of the golden age of bioware.
>>544193762>they're good people
>>544194469We had 1 but it died
but no one talks about Owlcat games for the gameplay or only to shit on it so what's the point
Where do you find an Yrliet IRL?
You didn't hear it from me buuuuut... Live action BG3 in 2028
the 40gay general died so the 5 40k fags just spam this one about their dolls all day?
the anti-owlcatfags are not going to like December
>>544195090Will it be amazon primes next billion dollar flop?
>>544195050move to Russia
>chapter 1>7 rat swarms in a tiny ass buildingI just love dickish slavic design.
>>544195230Yeah. All the femcels left so it will be even deader if a new general is made.
>>544195090sounds stupid they're better off making a cheap anime offsourced in korea
>>544195418you should have just picked up a little elf girl who can fire AoE, there's nothing to it
Can the 40gays take a hint and go post somewhere where they aren’t despised? Why come here and spam talk about 40k lore?
>>544195418Rat swarms are fucking easy to deal with. If you're getting frustrated by this shit, you should uninstall the game. RPGs aren't for idiots like you. Go back to CoD or Skyrim.
Guys Is the Imperium evil?
>mfw know the AI is cheating in Colony Ship but just can't prove it
>>544195684Good question for /dhg/
>>544195756not a thing
>>544195586They take initiative and beeline towards Ember. Besides that, it takes a few casts to take them down. I hit my party as well. It sucks that I have to burn resist fires and remove diseases for fucking rats.
>>544195242I'll be happy to see people talk about a video game
>>544195885>resist firesJust stay out of the way you retard. They're also slow as hell. What are you doing, just standing there like "I'm being chewed to death how can this be happening to me" while someone else blasts fire over the rats and companion both?Holy shit my dude, turn the difficulty down for yourself.
If Owlcat had made BG1, what would the changes be?
>>544195885You sound like a whiny shitter. I don't know why people find Wrath so difficult. 90% of the people here beat it on unfair without save scumming. If you have half the brain and apply buffs, you can make a build that rolls over any enemy in the game.
>>544196345Not him but it’s pretty obvious why someone without any experience playing rtwp games could struggle. I don’t think the game is difficult at all but if you can’t fathom why he’s having difficulties then you have mental deficiencies.
>>544196298Tiny room. Also, there are other enemies like komodo dragons and plague wolves in there to punish moving away. Besides that, rats take initiative over many characters and will get their bites in.>>544196583I do turn based because rtwp is too chaotic. I take my eyes off one guy and a creeper or rogue as delivered 3 crit attacks in under a second to one of my tanks.
>>544196583nta but wrath's rtwp is a piece of shit, and I say that as a rtwpchad. I'm forced to play TB in that game because of how horseshit "freshman intro to programming" their RTwP system is, doing absolutely nothing innovative from the IE games 25 years ago.
>>544196298>Holy shit my dude, turn the difficulty down for yourself.Normal is baby mode and under are baby modes. People who aren't at least playing on core should be shamed out of the fandom.
>>544196776>komodo dragons and plague wolveswait what? I don't remember that.
>>544196934Yeah. Core is literally>the way it was meant to be playedNormal nerfs the enemies so hard that Ember could kill a ton of them in melee.
>>544196934Wrong. The difficulty settings are there for you to adjust how to play according to your skill and preferred playing style.The only ones to be shamed are ones who *should* turn the difficulty down but think that it'll shrink their dick or something so instead they just tantrum about how unfair the game is. This is the only kind of pathetic loser.
>>544195418Why are rats right next to komodo dragons and wolves? Wouldn't those big predators be chowing down on those rodents? That encounter design makes no sense.
Normal is perfectly fine for a new player who doesn’t understand build making or rtwp. Obviously the goal should be to read and learn but if you want to learn while playing without being a guidefag you should play on normal as a new player. These faggy league of legends babies like to shame people for not being metafag optimisers but they should just be ignored. They are subhumans.
>>544197323Once in a blue moon, the enemy spawner screws up and shits out encounters that it shouldn't.
>>544197430Normal completely bastardizes the rule set, strategems, and enemy AI. The only way to learn the rules is to play on core.
>>544197534Yeah there should absolutely not be komodo dragons or plague wolves in there, no wonder anon is struggling.
>>544197697And yet I started on Normal in Kingmaker, now my preference is Hard.So basically, you're wrong and an idiot.
I preferred the old dnd class system.
>>544197924Get with the times old man
>>544197924>having no armor classpathetic
>>544185193The Lamenters
>>544197903Just ignore him. He obviously doesn’t even have the capacity to understand conditional hypotheticals.
is there a single class choice in RT other than noble-officer that isn't done better by one of your party members?
>>544197534>>544197717Okay, I reloaded, and there were only 4 rats and no other animals. The rats were also lower level (no vicious/starving modifiers). It was way easier.
>>544192029>kotor 2 was meh>liked nwn2you get a pass for liking AP but wtf man
>>544195418they toned down swarms in wrath desu. you can just fight them normally for the most part unlike kingmaker.
>>544198259Nice. Yeah I feel that little house directly next to Ember is basically a little tutorial on AoE wrecking swarms.
>>544197924>King Arthur>5th level bardQRD?
>>544198578In KM, their movement counted as attacks, and they moved around a lot. It was terrible.
>>544198103zoomzoom plz>>544198206melee/ranged dual wielding AM. ulfar is too fucking big and warrior works better for the combo than soldier.
>>544199080I look like that
>>544199134K E N A B R E SENABRES
For a while, I thought Camellia's secret was vampirism. Looking back, the coffins in Drezen were just isolated instances that led to nothing.
>>544199775I feel like they probably shelved some additional vampire content
>>544199775cammers would make a great vampire though
>>544199775I think its funny you can have seelah cast smite evil on camellia and immediately know her secret. or just look at her fucking character sheet, anybody with an "unknown" alignment is ALWAYS chaotic evil.
Lack of Imoen posting is pissing me off right now
>>544198206Sniper. Fuck yrliet and her xenos weaponry my imperium solid projectile rifle is way cooler
>Implying I listened to Kreia, ever
>>544200627I'd like to see a storyline where someone good-aligned living in the abyss has to keep nondetection on to blend in with the fiends
>>544196325You play as khalid, jahira's husband, then one of your companions (some rando from candle's keep) cucks you by stealing jahira away from you.
>>544196325Viconia is exactly the sameAerie leaves subtle hints that the kid isn't yoursKhalid and Jaheira invite you to a threeway
>>544201019>not Gorionstick to things you know, cuckposter.
>>544192956I am oldfag and my younger memories of NWN1 couldn’t be proven any more wrong when I returned to it after ages and I was irritated by it. I guess when you really didn’t have a ton of options you put up with real time with pause . Also didn’t help the only good shit came off modules and fan shit
>>544200993Literally happened in Critical Role at one point :)
>>544201197Maybe if the game started with you having your ward as a baby for the full better man experience
>>544201168>Aerie leaves subtle hintsI think Aerie wouldn't, but instead she'd mention in her backstory that she had some boyfriend in the carnival who was sold or died or something just weeks before meeting Gorion's Ward.
>>544201259Hate to admit that I watched those early episodes but it wasn't someone that was good aligned and it wasn't the abyss.Was basically mercer's version of the underdark and it was one mindflayer using a non-detection helmet to hide himself from the hive because his hive was corrupted. But he wasn't good, the moment the party got rid of the corruption and the hive was corrected the mindflayer immediately took off his helmet, rejoined the hive, and betrayed the party.
Do you ever get to ask Areelu who the father was?
I wanna smooch her.
>>544201168>AerieI said BG1 but BG2 could be fun as a separate one. Maybe anons don't have the ability to separate them.
>>544196325neera is the only romance option
>>544196325the combat becomes worse
>>544201552Why hate to admit? It's pretty entertaining. I enjoyed Campaign 2 the most, it had some very good moments. The ":)" was because there's an autist around here who gets stuck in a loop about it.There was another time they disguised alignment, but it was making their way around in the Nine Hells.
>>544201961And encounter design is nonexistent.
>>544201626
>>544202447What do you mean, the encounter design is already pretty nonexistent. I say that as a fan, but not a delusional one.
>he’s talking about critical role againAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>544202704Correct. In some ways I like Dimension 20 better, but they both have their pluses and minuses.
>>544195050At the local Ethel Cain fanclub
Even on leddit Yrlitard causes seethe to this day
>>544202889Why are you showing us your reddit posts
>>544203019bro you can't call it reddit you have to say r*ddit or leddit or plebbit or something! don't be cringe, bro!
>>544202621BG1 has good encounter design, especially for the level range its at.
>>544200930this
>>544202821not the sperg but why? maybe I'm just too boomer to get it but streams are already gay. watching some z-list celebrities roleplay? that's next level homo.
>>544202889Cope Yrlietard
>>544203216I'm trying to think of any examples of good encounter design, honestly.Mulahey's the only thing coming to mind really. The wizard in that house and Razimir's Tower are both kind of interesting.Can you come up with more examples? I like the game I just wouldn't say it has good encounter design, really.
>>544203472>why?Well I'll assume good faith interest. I like very long-form stories. They're voice actors so that adds to playing their characters.I don't know/care about them as 'celebrities', they could be switched for anyone as long as they roleplayed decently.It's a bit like a very long improv story that has a lot of interconnecting pieces and subplots and interesting characters and so on. Plus the combat can be exciting, though the DM is a bit too forgiving for my taste, though there have been player deaths.Campaign 1 was a bit half-baked and a bit too... linear-ish? For my taste, and Campaign 3, I'm not sure how to pinpoint it but overall it was a flop.
>>544204141You should watch normal people instead of some faggy attention whores who don’t know how to not pretend for the camera
>>544204141>I like very long-form stories.Same but I read for my fix.>I don't know/care about them as 'celebrities', they could be switched for anyone as long as they roleplayed decently.I honestly wasn't sure how to refer to them since I thought they had other fags beyond just VAs, but knew the core were VAs.>It's a bit like a very long improv story that has a lot of interconnecting pieces and subplots and interesting characters and so on. I guess there's something to be said about that.
>>544203743Durlags Tower alone puts BG1 in the top five of encounter design for any CRPG ever made.
>Death is life's final surprise... and I enjoy surprising people >:)
>>544204553>I read for my fix.I do that too, but really the length doesn't even compare.Avg 4hr episodes puts C2 at 564 hours. That's 23 days straight if put back to back. Of one story which more or less focuses on a group of about 7 characters.
>>544204351Sorry about your autism
We saved 7 of the underhive rabble here. On grimdark unfair. I believe that is a /crpgg/ record.
>>544204982eeeh it feels a bit cheap to use the whole time as storytelling time when there's gameplay and (I assume) bullshitting happening between.
Playing as a gnome feels wrong
>>544205032the guy watching 1000hours of socially inept attention whores calling anybody autistic is fucking rich
>>544205325That messenger of tzeentch is such a pest Teleporting around all over the place
>>544205535are you a gay gnome kissing Daeran
>>544205675Maybe the first time you face him, but once you know it's coming you sit a character at each node before the fight starts and he dies without wasting your time. Not like the fight offers any real challenge even if you play it standard, just wastes time making you chase after an annoyance.
>>544205784Girl gnome.
Laura is unironically probably a better player than half of the degens in this general who can only talk about dollies and smooching
>>544206101Schierke!?
>>544185193>who are the good guys in 40k?girlyman and his pregnant elf girlfriend
I'm making a TWF demonslayer ranger but I don't know what weapons to use/focus on help
>>544206101Why are these models so fucking ugly???
>>544206150VA's becoming personalities is one of the worst trends of the past decade or so.
>>544205614>autistic screeching
>>544206101Miura stopped working on Berserk since his editors wouldn't let him follow through with having Guts marry Schierke, and now that he's dead we'll never get the real ending. Tragic.
>>544206150who's that? your new tranny crush?get laid already retard
>>544206308scimmies and longswords get the best selections
>>544206331that's fucking rich coming from this general, when most of you are on a first name basis with irrelevant devs, PR people, and even fucking redditors
>>544206504Yes I talk to Josh Sawyer, jealous?
>>544206331i hope AI kills that entire simp industry.let's have the voices made by nameless engineers and artists the way the pixels are
>>544206592t. goons to tiktok's robotic voice
>>544206497I suppose it makes sense. I'll be going str based if that matters so I think those would be fine with it.
>>544206504not me (except mishi) but I still view those as unironically better>>544206592let's not go too far. the only good synth voice overs I've ever heard is the anon making a draenei companion in /tesg/. wonder if he's done yet.
>>544206327All the manlet races have atrocious models. At least gnomes have facial features most similar to anime characters.
>>544204978imagine if that's what wotr looked likeinstead of, well, what it is.>>544206668you use tiktok?
>>544206727of course it needs to be good or better.the tech is out there, i've heard it. but nobody's put it in a game yet. probably because engineers are way more expensive than paying a single mother to say a few lines into a microphone.but i'm hopeful.
>>544206694ironically(?) the kingmaker wiki is a good source for wrath weapons so take a peek over there. my canon KC is a twf demonslayer ranger and I use longswords but there's one cool serenrae scimmy and a few others that match it.
>>544206727Slopfags don't care about the quality. It's all spite based.
>>544205458You don't count that as part of storytelling? Characters speaking to each other about things while traveling, or whatever such things?
>>544207095I don't mean in character bullshitting but honestly that would depend more on the characters and I have a hard time believing these people roleplay so much as loosely self insert.
>>544207027It would genuinely be better if AI took over, you could produce massive scripts and have them be fully voiced in a fraction of the time at a fraction of the cost. You can also tailor the voice to sound exactly like the character you're envisioning. I don't really see any real reason to cling to the old method of doing things once AI voices are advanced enough to be indistinguishable from the real thing, there's only gains and no drawbacks.
>>544207314>You can also tailor the voice to sound exactly like the character you're envisioning. how do you do thathow do you tell your machine/ai/script to sound "emotional" for this one line or this one word or this one syllable or to pause dramatically when it should
>>544207314
>>544207218>I have a hard time believing these people roleplay so much as loosely self insertBased on what? They do roleplay. I'm sure there's a bit of self-insertion but I don't really care about that or them as people. The various characters they've played are differentiated for the most part, so I'm sure they're roleplaying. But I didn't watch to grade them on how much they self-insert or something lol.
>>544207654>Based on what?the people being faggots mostly. I have a very low opinion of entertainers honestly.
>>544207469Are you serious? By changing the voice modulation and intonation to create that effect. As for "pausing dramatically", at least think before you write, do you really think an automated voice can somehow not wait a moment before speaking the next line in a medium that works with prerecorded lines to begin with?
>>544207469Are you actually asking? If so, how much do you already understand about how the technology works? But in any case the answer's beyond the scope of this general, ask /g/.If you're asking to try and make some point like "you can't, it's impossible" you're completely wrong and we're already there.
>>544207469nta but it's been something you could do for about five years now.back then, it looks a little bit like adobe after effects, with some curves and switches. ithese days, you could probably just do it with natural language.>>544207314it would be pretty nice to get something like wotr fully voiced
>>544206959I'll check it out, I might just go Dual scimitar TWF demonslayer, I just need to work out a build I guess.
>>544207746Ahh, I see, so you're just a retard who makes shit up in his head. Well it was nice talking with you, have a nice day.
>>544207994yeah I kinda expected malding on that one but I was being honest with you. have fun sucking cock I guess.
>>544207746why are you thinking about these people when you don't like them?i haven't even heard of critical role in almost a year. nigger wtf are you doing>>544206308you get a lot of scimitars. also consider dipping 1 titan fighter to twf glaive (i've never done this but it sounds hilarious0
>>544207775by pausing I don't mean including a sleep timer command in your software but pausing naturally like a real human being would, lingering on a syllable, trailing off, etc. and that has to be on a line to line basis
>>544208095>why are you thinking about these people when you don't like them?I was asking anon what he liked about the show. he asked why I would think little of them so I told him. >i haven't even heard of critical role in almost a year. nigger wtf are you doingdid you just show up today because some faggot has been baiting over it all week here
>>544207845>>544207906post 3 examples I'm willing to be proven wrong and accept I'm ignorant
>>544208129Are you really such a luddite that you do not understand we're already at a point where AI voices can do that with ease, already? Not some far off future, but right now.
>>544208225>todayisn't that most people? who posts every day.i'm the guy in the last thread who was talking about playing pillars 1 for the first time.
When did this place become infested with the type of people who fanboy over VA’s that commercialise your hobbies for attention?
>>544208367>isn't that most people? who posts every day.me since I'm on a crpg kick>i'm the guy in the last thread who was talking about playing pillars 1 for the first time.he definitely tossed the bait out a few times yesterday too
>>544208298Not my responsibility to educate you my retard
>>544208361>AI voices can do that with ease, already?but that's completely subjectiveyour AI's idea of sad, angry, upset, relieved, etc might not sound natural at all or comparable to a voice actor
>>544208490Can you show examples of the fanboying?Fascinating that people streaming DnD gets some people so completely assblasted
>>544208654>Might not beBro it's just a matter of time. This isn't the first time technology replaced manual labor and it won't be the last. And ultimately it's always for the best, streamlining things and making them more efficient is always a good thing in the long run.
>>544208791Is it "it can already to that already you ignorant luddite" or "it's just a matter of time"?
>>544208129>including a sleep timer command in your softwareThe fact that you think this is how AI voices work, with "sleep timers" and "commands" is amusingly quaint.You don't program them, you give them a text to read and a general description of what you want.
>>544208763>Can you show examples of the fanboying?>>544206150
>>544208298you can believe me or not. i don't particularly care, so decide. >>544208496anon. please. do you actually read every post in the thread? if it's not a (You) or i just happen to read it while posting something else, how would i have seen it? be reasonable.>crpg kickneat, what are you playing now?
People watch 1000s of hours of voice actors playing dnd because it’s trendy and commercialised. Is that as soulless and a consumer can possibly be? How can your taste possibly be that shit? Are zoomers really that soulless?
>>544208963>You don't program themno, but someone else did
>>544208995Oh, that wasn't me. Sounds more like shitting on /crpgg/ tards than fanboying anyhow.
>>544207469You put a tag in curly brackets in the script at the key positions. That's how ElevenLabs used to do it I think, not sure about at present
>>544209034>anon. please. do you actually read every post in the thread?yes? what kind of weirdo keeps the thread open without reading and engaging.>neat, what are you playing now?just beat RT, now back to kingmaker.
>>544209129zoomers watch tiktoks and don't have the attention span for a single 4-hour episode but nice try
>>544208872The tech will just do it. It's not yet but it will and I know it will because it will. Don't question it.
>>544209269don't you have it set up to give you a notification if you get a reply?that's probably a better way to do it than keeping the thread open.
>>544209209>Sounds more like shitting on /crpgg/ tards than fanboying anyhow.>>544206504
>>544209138Not really. The multi layer perceptron simulator is programmed to be run on video cards, but the actual behaviour is not programmed or truly understood. It's trained. You dump loads of shit into it and reward it for correct behaviour.
I have an LLM that displays the thread status in my i3 statusbar, color-coded to give me an idea of the 'vibe' of the last 50 or so posts.
>>544209407>phonepostingbuddy this site is my second home. no shame in this game.
>>544209434you're nitpicking over technical details nobody cares about to win an argument that was never there in the first placeokay there's no sleep timer command so what, you get the idea that the AI will unnaturally pause when it decides it needs to "hesitate"
>>544209610phone?oh, did you think that notification means phones. no, my computer has notifications. i'm guessing you are on windows if you don't have them?and it's fine if this place is your "second home". i didn't mean to make you defensive about it. that's great. it's just, i think there's a lot of people who just make a few posts sometimes, then leave? instead of making a home
>>544209820>it's just, i think there's a lot of people who just make a few posts sometimes, then leave? instead of making a homeI've never even considered this desu. especially not in generals. feels like you're the minority on this one.
>>544209695>you get the idea that the AI will unnaturally pauseWhy would it be unnatural? It's imitating real pauses that it's heard in real speech. It is incapable of going "hmm I need to pause, I'll just run a timer". It's 100% about the vibe, 0% about the meaning
>>544208872I'm saying they can already do intonation and inflection just fine, but fine tuning it to have the perfect expression and consistency you are asking is going to take another 2-3 years. It still has points where someone really paying attention might be able to tell it's not a genuine person. I might even be lowballing it on the time it takes, though, at this point they've even got automated voices that handle call center work and most customers are not able to tell the difference between them and an actual rep. That's just clerical work VS a full out performance, but the fact it's already that far should show you how little progress needs to be made to make indistinguishable from the real thing even in a performance focused medium.
>>544209549hand over the code, anon. i'm going to use it.>>544209928i don't know about that. how would we make such a conclusion? even if we were to look at posts or something, there's no way to know which ones are different people.i think you can't make statements like that one with any real confidence.
>>544210213>there's no way to know which ones are different people.it's not really that hard. seranafag sticks out like a sore thumb and doesn't even use a name anymore.
>>544210213I can spot the Yrlietard a mile off
>>544210036>I'm saying they can already do intonation and inflection just finethat's not real emotion and people can tell the difference
>>544210213>how would we make such a conclusion?Use an LLM to analyse posting styles. If it can't tell, it'll just make up an answer, which might as well be true.
>>544210328>>544210429if you were wrong, how would you know? even if the poster said "that's not me", you wouldn't believe it.i don't think that stuff is legit.
I can spot the incel from a mile away, he likes to talk about "humiliation rituals" and how Yrliet "cucked" him by denying him sex
>>544210635I don't really care what you believe desu. you do you. I used to get in almost daily fights with one dude when DD2 released. we could spot each other even when doing our best to be moderate.
I can spot the high af dude a mile off (he's always high af)
>>544210845not sure which poster you are, but we were talking about what % of people are here all day and read every post, vs less than that.there's no point in my statements that is related to a "belief" i have. you hallucinated that. like an LLM
>mug of hot tea>cat sleeping next to me in bed>window open, cool breezeit's a perfect day for playing a role on my computer
>>544211061bet I could spot you if this topic comes up again
>>544210789yrliet held my hand once
>>544211061>there's no point in my statements that is related to a "belief"You're not just right - you flipped the playbook ITT. Good catch.
Everyone who disagrees with me is the same guy.
>>544210789I talk about humiliation rituals, yriliet cuckoldry and am an incel, but I will never be "the" incel
>>544211631all me btw
Yrliet is posting from her laptop and multiple phones to bypass the cooldown and mess with my head.
>>544211207this too is a kind of immortality.living forever in the mind of a schizophrenic.
how many of you guys are going to buy DH in december
>>544211824in a quantum way since I won't remember you until the topic comes up but yeah. if only it was a better memory eh?
>>544212084Not a chance. Had my fill of 40slop with ~3/4 of RT
>>544212084DH would have to come up with something substantial to get me to care about it at all. I'll pirate the alpha but I don't plan on even playing the full release as things stand.
>>544212121no I'd prefer being a bad memory if I was to be immortalized by anyone using this siteI have seen what lies in the opposite direction
>>544212121it was merely a jest to say you are schizophrenic. i didn't mean to make a bad memory for you.but if you don't like this memory, you could always decide not to do this weird imaginary patterns stuff. that's an option.
>>544212483there's a reason avatarfagging is ban worthy and name/tripfags are derided. and also there's a reason they all get a pass on this board. you're not wrong here but you're in the wrong place to be making this point, and pointing at the wrong dude. I do it the old fashion way and explicitly don't make a personality of myself.
>>544212672it's more likely to be tism than anything but it's not without worth
How much longer until solasta releases more class info?
is the outer worlds 2 worth playing if I hated the first one
Solasta is already out, has been for a long time.Oh, did you mean Solasta 2? Maybe you should have said "Solasta 2" then.
>>544213261How much longer until this anon stops being autistic?
>bought out by Kepler InteractiveSolasta 2 will be woke trash
>>544213387https://youtu.be/O6rHeD5x2tI?si=SNDh0Z0PqrfMQlfC&t=57
>>544213046in truth, it's very ordinary behavior.human minds naturally try to find patterns, even when they don't exist. and without a way to falsify them ("if you were wrong, how would you know?"), you necessarily end up with all sorts of patterns, sometimes true, other times not, by construction there's no way to know.anyway pillars is halfway downloaded. i hate my bullshit ""high speed fiber"" internet that becomes dogshit when all the neighbors watch netflix on the weekend. please just let me wire dedicated fiber to my house, i'll pay the money
>>544213152What did you hate about the first one
>>544212483Why does everyone in that screenshot write like a millenial?
>>544213748>("if you were wrong, how would you know?")anon most people openly admit when you catch them twice, because who cares? if your answer is then "well they're just fucking with you" the problem is clearly with you, not this site and definitely not my noticing. you've got issues man.
>>544213748Get starlink.
>>544213981probably because that's the age group that was using 4chan in 2013
>>544213778Every quest being "dude corpos are so stupid"The planets being ugly as sinThe combat being really mediocre
>>544213748should be a utility at this point, and treated as such.hope you have fun with pillars, I'm happy to answer any questions as long as they're not autistic like at the end of last thread
Wondering what CRPG we're working on next? Well I can't confirm anything officially of course, but I just have to ask:How do you want to do this? ;)
>>544213152>is more of this slop in the same sloppy setting by the same sloppy writers worth it?That's a tough oneWhat do you think?
>>544217407>How do you want to do this? ;)no butt stuff
Only 15 oddity exp, 2 sea wyrm hides, and the quest to enter the institute left before I have my underrail build fully online at lvl 18. Not sure why the fuck I'm doing this instead of continuing my wotr save at grey garrison it'd be more fun
More like underGAYl
>>544217890Underfail
Underrail more like UnderTALE
>>544217407why did you steal the catchphrase of matt mercer, of critical role fame
Tales From the Crypt the CRPG
>>544218462go on
I'm just the idea guy, that's all I got
>>544218462When I was a little kid the crypt keeper scared the fuck out of me.
Games of Thrones the CRPG
>>544218787well at least I'll have something to watch for awhile
wcrpg
The Goonies the crpgg
>>544219865This is literally me
The Gooning crpgg
Mass Effect but with no alienscall it The Expanse or something
>>544221138the expanse doesn't have aliens?
>>544221193It does but not the kind waifufags can fuck
>>544221193symbiote parasite things
>>544221465not to worry, I got my loisence right 'ere.
>>544221465Don't underestimate the waifufags
>>544221630I’ve never seen a waifufag here want anything other than blue humans
>>544221876I just looked up these expanse aliens and they're literally just mass effect husks so blue human fits.
>>544221876>blue humansExpanse has this
>>544222016Those are just fucked up children humans experimented on with the sort of but not really tech aliens left behindThe actual aliens are like a jellyfish hivemind
>>544223025This one doesn't see the problem with that.
Who is the lebron james (greatest of all time) of crpgs?
Whoever wrote solomorne definitely has some wierd fetishes.
>>544214097dunno mani've had guys say "you're definitely the XYZ poster" to me. me, personally, my lived experience. >>544214247yeah man i totally misjudged that post. since the question was "what does it mean a solid class?" i thought the poster was fishing for an autistic breakdown so that's what i did. i'll stick to more intuitive rather than more precise if that's your preference.>>544214167i have genuinely thought about buying it several times this year. do you have starlink, how is it? the download was so obnoxiously slow that i actually went off and did some other shit and forgot all about how i was going to play the game
Outerworlds 2 might actually be better than new vegas.
>new vegas and outerworlds Not crpgs.
Veilguard might actually be better than origins.
>>544225525>do you have starlinkNo, but my cousin does and he says it's fast and stable. When I've been to his place in the country his internet speed has been very good.
>>544225350what are those fetishes
>make a top tier waifu>she isnt romancable What was Obsidian thinking?
>>544227414she looks like one of those faces you get when you average the faces of all the women of a country
>>544227414What phenotype is that?
>>544227620Aryan.
>>544227620balloon animal
>>544227414The sad part is the quality of waifus in crpgs have gotten so shitty I cant tell if this is a shitpost or not.
>>544227414
Outerworlds 2 was 70% made by AI
>>544227589La Creatura de los Americas
"You need GREAT MINDS to solve problems" - Tim Cain
>>544228563pretty sure that was john keats actually
Just ate 1kg of beef and drank a bottle of wine. What CRPG should I play now?
>>544228829Solasta
>>544228829mass effect 1
Honestly there are a couple of studios that could take some lessons from solasta. Like if you cant write characters just make your party mercs with general personalities you can choose *cough cough* obsidian *cough cough* owlcat.
>download Vtmb clan mod>final quest against Hazel crashes the gamewelp, should I buy VtMB 2 or just play Outerworlds 1? Leaning towards vampire because OW1 looks so fucking bland
>>544229108I think you should get some fucking taste if those are your options
Obsidian are more mature for not putting romances inImagine if their games were as popular as owlcatImagine /crpgg/ without fucking waifufaggotry
>>544229057nothing screams cult classic like avoiding writing a real story or characters and just translating a tabletop system into a format playable on the computer
>>544229351Temple of elemental evil
>>544229351IWD1/2
I'd rather change who I am and find friends to play 5e with than play a single minute of solasta
does playing an "ai dungeon" with a tabletop rpg system count as a crpg?
>>544229210>imagine a thread with no postsit would be an improvement
the outer worlds 2 is the personification of reddit
>>544232912what does that make outer worlds 1
Hello beautiful
Would you consider this good dialogue options?
>>544234770man face
>>544234941Better than blue good guy red bad guy, or single words I guess
>>544234941Where's the "I'm disappointed you didn't trust the math" option?
is parvati from the outer worlds the best written companion in crpg?
>>544234941I would probably use calculations or computations in lieu of math. Idk I get there’s plenty of rpg dialogue options that sometimes sound like they’re starting a completely separate conversation, but for syntax sake idk my word autism doesn’t like the constant starting of sentences of “the math this” or “the math that”
>>544234941Sure
Had to turn Lann into this fort beast to beat Nocticula.
>>544236991Yeah using "math" that way sounds both sloppy and distractingly contemporary.
>>544229108OW1 is a serviceable rpg with moments that near something resembling fun
Why does Owlcat suck so much at writing player alignment? Outside of Greybor and Daeren to an extent (though you could argue he sits just over the border to NE), they do a pretty good job of making companions and NPCs rep their alignment (the Herald of Iomadae is an excellent portrayal of LG, just like Regill is a great example of LE), but when it comes to the player, alignment feels very strict and nonsensical. No, being chaotic does not mean that you constantly tell cringe jokes. Neither does being lawful imply you're a no fun allowed autist. Certain mixed alignments are difficult to role-play. Want to be LE? Well you'll be taking a lot of CE options that are labeled [Evil], such as "You're ugly, I'm going to kill you." Want to keep your LG alignment? Then get ready to pick a bunch of Lawful options that lack any compassion or empathy, jump to "kill them" on flimsy evidence, let evil prosper (see the case of one Lawful option being to hand back a bunch of slaves because thems the rules in the Abyss), and many of which border or are LE (why Regill is so enthusiastic about you picking many [Lawful] options). CG should be the alignment of "I'm not free until everyone is free," but it's just "let's have fun, friendship, and cookies" randomness, like they can't wrestle with the fact that they're in the middle of huge war where tons of people are dying every day. But I know most of you don't care, because you don't really role-play, just pick dialogue options that minmax your stats the best any way.
Bloodlines 2 will become the cyberpunk of urban fantasy games.
>>544238747The Kingmaker UI was so soulful compared to the one in WotR. And yeah, LG is a bit schizo where you're flopping between compassion and I AM AN UNFEELING AND UNTHINKING JUSTICE ROBOT.
I’m beyond impressed with the Outer Worlds 2.This is a strong return to form for Obsidian. The storytelling, characters, side quests, dialogue, combat; everything is top notch. As someone who didn’t really like the first game at all or Avowed much, I’m incredibly surprised by how great this game is. I was fearing they were going to be the next BioWare.This feels like a true AAA obsidian game, and something I wanted from them since Pillars of Eternity. Kudos and congrats to them. A home run in my opinion.
Full voice acting is a meme. I don't need to hear some z-grade actor hammishly read out every last line in the game
>>544239290If it were something like Arcanum, I'd agree, but with studios like Obsidian or Owlcat, I'm fine with it, because it forces them to get economical with their writing. Just because there's a lot of writing doesn't mean it's good writing.
>>544234941So quirky and irreverent!
014reddit or paid review?
>>544239989Yes
*CLOP CLOP CLOP*
Only play spooky crpgs for October
>>544242397ok, like?
we coolbless mods>>544234941Option 2 and 4 sound okay
This Queefstone game is pretty good
>only added in like 20 new items The next 2 dlcs for rogue trader better add in 100 items each, the tiem selction in the game is like one of the biggest problems.
that shit floppedyou spend your time discussing cuckolding when indian shills
>>544241565I haven't played WotR, which demonic bitch is this?
>>544244612we know you didnt, jeet shill
Should I play Neverwinter Nights 1 or Icewind Dale after finishing my current run of WotR? Never played the older crpgs like them
On second thoughts Weepstone might become tedious after a while. It's based heavily simulating the actual experience of rolling dice which is fun for a while but perhaps not for longer sessions. Anyway I'm enjoying the demo so far.
>>544246373start with ToEE, arcanum
>>544234941>no choice to side with mathematics
This lady had better be romanceable in the full release.
>>544248374It's because the writers can't actually imagine different choices, just different ways of phrasing the same choice.
>>544247689>ToEEI think I'll wait for the re-release (or whatever it was) that's supposed to come out this year. I've heard the original can be a pain to get running on windows 10I do have arcanum though, might go for it next then
>>544249003there is no remaster. get ToEE with circle of 8 mod from gog or pirate bay. it runs on windows 10
>>544247689I would never recommend arcanum to anyone used to newer rpgs. It's a slog even if you're not new to the genre.
arcanum looks better, runs better than yurotrash unity jank
What's the point of Eldritch Knight when Magus does the same thing
What weapon type should I go with for a dual wielding build in wrath?
>>544249442Why are you telling lies on the internet?
>decide which weapon you'll use FOR LIFE at level 1weapon focus was so stupid, i'm glad they got rid of it
>>544250112Sword and shield was surprisingly good as a TWF build in Kingmaker but in Wrath you've got more options. Scimitars have a great selection, weirdly enough
Grand strategist is such a boring class.
>>544250419Scimitar seems fine then, though I'm surprised they aren't light weapons so I guess I'll eat shit until I get a high enough attack bonus
>>544250112Used to be handaxes until they patched Grave Singer, now probably daggers imo. 19-20 crit range, light so no atk penalty for wielding one in your off-hand and good itemisation because Woljif is expected to use them. Hasty Eradicator is the best-off-hand weapon in the game. Kukri have a nice crit range but no special uniques. Scimitars and rapiers are good too but you take the attack penalty. Sword and shield is a decent option.
>>544250901Or just wield something else in your off-hand. No need to take the penalty, especially before you've snagged improved critical.
>>544250901You're meant to have to get dervish dance to use them as one handed finesse weapons but owlcat didn't implement that and made it part of slashing grace instead.
>>544251595>because Woljif is expected to use themWhich makes it imo weird that you get a punching dagger and not a normal dagger at the end of his questline. Unless they are actually considered the same behind the scenes, but I doubt that since you can take feats for them individually
>>544233263old.reddit.com
>>544246760At least it looks nice
>>544241565my *clop* is better than your *clop*
>>544243568Only you don't look like a rogue trader. You look like a random no name soldier. Abelard is gonna be mistaken for a rogue trader every time
>>544252382Not even a little bit. Those sad saggy pancake tits, damn, not even shapeshifting can fix those, huh?
>>544252503>titswho cares about tits when you got those sweet sweet hooves?
>>544234770looks like a ps3 game
>>544211061Nobody. I'm here every day and even I don't read every post because half of posts are filtered
>>544252578She's ugly. lilithu are the superior demons
I wake upI wageI come back homeI play a roleI shitpost a bit in the cuckolding general before bedI sleepRepeat
>>544252953Same except I don't play a role
>>544252953When do you eat, shower and clean up apartment?
>>544238747Kingmaker unironically turned me off from Chaotic Neutral alignment when before it was my favourite one. All CN options are just unfunny quirky reddit cringe. I heard the capital even has fucking fey statues in the square.
i only repeat when i have a late dinner
finished TOW2AMA
>>544253709How was the writing?
>>544252503Shapeshifting can fix saggy tits, what you can't fix is her shit taste in choosing to have them to begin with.
>>544253709How is it compared to Avowed
>>544253782Better than the first one by a wide margin (as in, it did not make me want to actively murder everyone in the room at all times) but still mostly just okay. It had a couple of funny moments but there's nothing that'll stand out to you, the setting is more or less your standard sci fi one only ran through a futuramaesque lense. The adding of factions besides the corporations (and the reduced scale of these) helped it a LOT, too, even if the other two can be boiled down to "nerds" and "chuds".It does the same thing as the last game though where it leaves the COOL shit that could've been fun to explore for sequel baiting>>544253947Haven't played Avowed but you can actually kill everyone if you want so TOW2 completely mogs it
>>544253293I probably won't be able to do that anymore mid week.
I didn't play TOW2 but I have very strong opinions about itAMA
>>544255729what do you think about it?what's your most hated feature?
>>544254508>standard sci fi one only ran through a futuramaesque lenseI miss the days when "standard sci-fi" could mean more than just "space travel in a capitalist dystopia"
>>544256020it is what it is. when you're doing scifi for normies you gotta keep it real simple, the weirdest concept the game introduces is just the space rifts being created because of the spaceships and then saying they're actually showing up in uncolonized space implying aliens or something like that but never elaborating on it because lol sequelbaitat least the AI programmed to have multiple personality due to the factions was funny.
Could we have a game set in a capitalist utopia for once?
>>544256559That's a bit fantastical even for space opera.
Who else is high af right now?>>544246760im pretty sure there is a option to speed up the dice in the settings.
Regill is insanely strong with his personal quest weapon.
Why the fuck is Jack telling me about a guy she smashed before letting me hit it?
>>544257338always put him on a mount so he doesn't die when something looks at him wrong
>>544257498Guys like that don't they?
We only like it when you leave subtle hints that we're inferior in the ending credits so we can then collectively commiserate in /crpgg/.
The next setting owlcat does should be the dresden files, they would do great with that IP.
I dont consider baldurs gate 3 a true dnd game because you can only have 4 party members at once
black crusade should be next right?
>want to play as an arbiter>your portrait options are an oldcel or a half blind bitch
>>5442590754 is literally the OG dnd party.fighter, wizard, cleric, thief.
yeah bg3 should have had 7 party members like in critical role
>played a melee sanctic/pyro psyker first playthrough and benched jimmy because we overlapped to much>playing a bio/officer/overseer second playthrough and will bench jimmy because we overlap to much
They should have had 6 members like bg1+2
>>544259673That party comp never made sense because the wizard can do everything the others can do but better
This is pretty much my character sheet irl.
>>544259562playing as an old wizened dude is kino
>>544260105>wasting your time disarming traps and picking locks with magic when you can get a trap bitch to do it for you
>>544260105You are retarded because the wizard is limited by spell slot. Early level they can do like 3 things and then just sit there twiddling their thumbs
I cant comprehend how you play wotr/kingmaker without toybox.
>>544260484Just save alot incase of bugs.
>>544260484I have a no mod policy on first play through, and even on second playthrough i only enabled the "all companion dialogues everywhere" option
>>544260105Since we're talking about bg3 and 5e.I don't think wasting a spellslot casting knock when thiefs get an OP ability like expertise.As for clerics, wizards don't really have healing and restoration spells like clerics do.But in pathfinder I'll give you wizards being decent fighters mid to late levels.
>>544260484I haven't encountered any bad bugs in wotr in a while. Kingmaker is perma fucked though.
bg3 should have had 6 party members like in bg2 and paladins should be lawful good only and they should have brought back thac0
BG3 shouldn't have had any companions. Shart and Astarion and Halsin and the rest should have been your friend group you hang with at the inn between quests
Changed Ember into a raygun. Fuck these demons.
Neverwinter Nights apparently has no companions, which intrigues me but also kind of pushes me away from trying it
>>544262186You get space for one companion. They call them "henchmen" and they're mercs basically. You have several choices
The Last Unicorn the CRPG
>>544262186I wouldn't recommend playing the original campaign if you do decide to play it. Skip to the expansions.
Tim Cain should replace sawyer as the head of Obsidian.
Bloodlines 2 is so based.
I prefer henchwomen to henchmen
Play the original campaign, the only annoying bits in it are the beginning bits with the waterdhavian creatures where you're inside neverwinter proper.After you leave neverwinter the game isn't as bad as people make it out to be.The expansions are better though.
>>544263117I don't because I feel really bad if I have to kill female goons
>>544263103not a crpg
Tim Cain was a programmer. He didn't write the story, he didn't create the aesthetics, he didn't create the mechanics, he didn't make any art. Hes a fraud.
Should i be worried that Kepler Interactive bought tactical adventures?
>>544263617>He didn't write the story, he didn't create the aesthetics, he didn't create the mechanics, he didn't make any art. We know for a fact he did all of those things thanks to his YouTube channel
>>544263154It's not terrible but I'd compare it to something like the original Shadowrun game. It mostly exists to showcase what you can do with the game so there's no much reason to actually still play it when better campaigns exist.
>>544263785who and who?
>>544263938Clair Obscur publisher bought the solasta people.
>>544264051The Lantern King/Nyrissa style curse on CRPG studios strikes again... This is getting spooky
>>544264051but why
Solasta 2 is going to be woke as shit btw.
>>544264918To sabotage Solasta 2 for some fey shit curse>Solasta 2 now a mobile game>Wasteland 4 not in active development, MMO version of Clockwork Revolution announced>Banquet for Fools acquired, design overhaul shifts to being a subscription-based platformerYou'll see...
>subscription based platformerkek
>>544188980>but it's romance options were shitJust like every game with romances.Romance fags have not once cared about quality.
>>544263864There's a difference between making small contributions on a small team and being the one doing the brunt of it.
If the game has no romance it's not worth playing, and it is not an RPG. You cannot go on an adventure without a romantic subplot, imagine LOTR with Aragorn being celibate. And you cannot have freedom, choice and consequence, or user input which defines a good RPG without being able to choose who to romance, as it's the most important sub-plot of any piece of fiction.
>I HAVE TO MAKE MY DOLLIES PLAY DOCTOR AND KISS!!
If a game has romance options the effects should be integrated into the main story and not just modular blocks you insert into the square hole. If you're not willing to do that then the game is better off without it.
The wasteland games didn't need romance btw.
did they even have it?
>>544266964>romances are an afterthought in any rpg that has it and barely take up any content>anon tries to peddle that it's not only the most important part, but the defining aspect of an rpgRomances are the absolute most irrelevant part of an RPG. You should stick to visual harem novels, that's more your speed.
>>544267970No, neither did Shadowrun or Jagged Alliance
>>544263103>17,047 all time peak1)It flopped2)Owlkino mogs it hard despite not even having a 1/5th of the budget and dev time
>>544267978I guess you prefer making your dollies hit each other
>>544266964>Aragorn being celibate.You really think he became king and saved the world for some Arwen pussy?
>>544268197Mishulin won Olga wonStarrok wonValeria wonNath wonNival won
>>544268381Yes.
>romancesWomen deserve nothing but death. The spawns of satan. Temptresses of evil.
>>544268569wrong
>>544267978Logic dictates that romance options are most important for defining what an RPG is. It shows the developers are dedicated to the craft and will go above and beyond to craft deep choice and consequence and let the player live an adventuring role-playing fantasy out where their intricate choices can lead them to deep character dialogue and branching with companions or NPCs. Everything else is popamole, any game including Rockstar, Hoyoverse, or Ubisoft stuff can have skills, skill checks, inventory, companions, codexes, randomization, dialogue """options""", but all of the facade falls apart when you realize there's no deep romance options and it's all puddle-deep role-playing elements in an action-adventure game. That's when the mask falls of and the snivelling liar dev can no longer pretend their game is an ARPG or whatever meme buzzword. Truly romance options are the only thing that defines a sophisticated computer-computing user's role-playing game.
there are unironic critical role fanboys posting among us
I unironically like acq inc, especially older ones when binwin was still around
>>544268874The only reason Hobbit was made was because of Tolkien's love towards his children. The only reason Lord of the Rings was made was because of Tolkien's love towards his wife. Realistically no literature of meaning would ever exist without romance. Obviously, someone as high IQ and as accomplished as Tolkien understood that you can't have an adventure that doesn't feel sterile and soulless without romance, he realized that Aragorn would be an unfinished character, and his struggle would be meaningless and adolescent were it not for Arwen existing, naturally most of his writing was nurtured by his love for his wife too. Alas, most CRPGs are made of manchildren, by manchildren, for manchildren. Even the giant of RPGs like BioWare with Baldur's Gate 2, KotOR, Origins, Mass Effect 1, couldn't bear the load of carrying all of RPGs on it's back forever and eventually crumbled to an asexual, sexless, aromantic slop like Veilguard, and finished it's journey. Californian based, pozzed, Obsidian with it's smarmy and malicious devs swore to force the narrative of RPGs being better off without it's most important element, romance options, upon the sophisticated CRPG computing user, and came out with soulless slop like PoE, Avowed, The Outer Worlds, Tyranny. One must tread carefully when navigating these waters, and realize where all anti-romance option leads. There is hope yet with Larian and Owlcat though, they might take the load upon themselves from BioWare and carry the entire world on their back.
>>544268978>Logic dictates that romance options are most important for defining what an RPG isIt really doesn't and never did. Don't waste people's time with this drivel.Before BG2 no one gave a single fuck.After that it was mainly Bioware that did that, no one else.Then more recently some companies realized you can sucker in braindead retards with some dogshit slapped together romance that takes up less than 2% of the game because they have fragile egos. These retards do not care about quality at all. It could be the most poorly written dogshit romance ever conceived, but so long as the character says "I love you" or some shit, the monkeys will eat it up.
but there's sex in the Veilguard so what's your point
>>544268978If romance is so important to you, RPGs are not for you. Stick to stuff like Monster Prom.
>>544269887dibs on the weirdo on the left
>>544269552Veilguard is a-sexual and a-romantic, every tumblrina and xiterette egirl that plays BioWare games hates Veilguard or considers it strictly inferior to the past games, mostly because they subconsciously realize something's off, a game cannot be meaningful without proper romance and that lacks in Veilguard. Just look at a comparison of how female body types look in Origins, specifically female dwarves, versus how they look in Veilguard. Or how even in Inquisition naked brown women like Josephine look vs how they look in Veilguard. All roads of being anti-romance and anti-sex inevitably lead to decline, they lead to modern day BioWare, Bethesda, Obsidian.>>544269887No. I will simply boycott every action-adventure game posturing as an CRPG until they give in and accept that romance options are necessary for a game to be classified as a CRPG.>>544269552All of european lit is based off of The Illiad, here's a short summary.>Here, the initial cause of the entire war is explained: Helen, wife of Menelaus, and the most beautiful woman in the world, was taken by Paris from Menelaus's home in Sparta. Menelaus and Paris agree to duel; Helen will marry the victorOne must naturally wish for such incline to persist in CRPGs, for CRPG developers to retvrn to form, and go back to when literature was still respected and influental. BG2 was the saviour of CRPG, it made it into a respectable genre, rather than just a cheap fucking knock-off of wargames like it's predecessors.
>>544270253Your entire premise is unironically that RPGs aren't RPGs without a shitty romance. Which means so long as there is romance it's an RPG. Meaning a visual novel is an RPG to you.I say again, absolutely no one will agree with you and everyone thinks you're a full-blown retard. Save yourself the effort, take the L and move on.Unless your kink is to be called a subhuman retard over and over.
>>544269479and the only reason alice's adventure in wonderlands was made was carrol's love for a little girl
>>544270658I accept your concession.>>544270661Prestigious.
I wuv you anon
Aragorn is not even the protagonist of LotReven if you assume he did it all for some elf pussy, that doesn't explain Legolas, Boromir, Frodo, etc
>>544270698>the sky is blue>noooo, the sky is green!!!!>look outside, the sky is blue>no, i tell you it's greeeeen!!!!!1>whatever retard>heheheheeh, i accept your concession!!!111Well if you want to be called retarded over and over again while having absolutely no argument with any substance, you do you.Again, you're saying RPGs didn't exist before BG2 and 99% of RPGs on the market are not RPGs. While also saying visual novels are RPGs. This is nothing but deranged delusional ramblings.
>>544266964>If the game has no romance it's not worth playing, and it is not an RPGYou're confusing the only reason you personally play rpgs with what makes an rpg. You're not an rpg fan, just a coomer.
>>544271082>You're not an rpg fan, just a coomer.Is BG2 a gateway drug to hardcore porn addiction?
>>544270982>emotionally charged impotent rant with no substanceIt appears my superiority has lead to some controversy.
>>544271209imoen got me into incest
owlcat got me into cuckoldry
>>544271621Good romance should have some cuckoldry for added dramaImagine if your romance partner started fucking some other companion on the side and you'd have to compete with him to win her over
sawyer got me into baloooncing
>>544272146Imagine if there are skill checks to get him to stay away from your girl>Intimidate>Persuade>Logic
>>544272893>dumped my charismatfw will remain forever alone as the incel MC
>>544273153become a lich lol
Finished Rouge Trader after about 80hrs, didn't do DLC >Waifu assassinated shortly after the endingI feel empty now
>jaefaglol
>>544251792That doesn't work out for a strength ranger tho right?
>>544273153Just use Intimidate instead. If you get him to back down then it increments your romance's flags in your favor.
>>544273682it was cassia
>>544273293le girmdark xDDD
>>544273293That's what you get for encouraging her independenceIf you encourage Jae to remain in your shadow rather than independent, I think she lives
>>544272146>Imagine if your romance partner started fucking some other companion on the side and you'd have to compete with him to win her overSure.>get them both killed>drops gameThat was easy.
>>544273841Oh wow I didn't know she had an assassination outcome Was it Pasqal
>>544274197The gist was after taking control of her house she married and had children with someone else only to pass on her genes, but still kept in contact with the RT until she died. The RT in a fit of rage after finding out it was an inside job, killed everyone from house Orselio
>>544274395Interesting, I've never seen that one
Is the romancefag shitposting?No way that someone can unironically think that romance is what makes a RPG a RPG...right?
>>544274543If you think it's bait then just ignore it and don't mention it again an hour later you dumb fuck
>>544274543nta but personally, I view it as a mark against an RPG if it doesn't have romance or some sort of affection system that allows me to learn more about my party members, but it's not a dealbreaker for me
RPGs are all about committing tomb-robbery and murder
>>544270253But most RPGs don't have romance. How is it an important part. It was mostly Bioware doing it and some other studios followed the trend. The RPGs with romance are in the minority.
>>544274720I agree, I think romance is a good optional roleplaying option.Or even romance aside it's good to have friendships/rivalries with your companions or certain NPCs, I rank this above romance in terms of importance.
>>544274934>But most RPGs don't have romance. most RPGs are not played by millions and remembered as classicsyour point with this "most" argument?
>>544275540Morrowind and Oblivion were played by millions and remembered as some if the best RPG gamesArcanum is also seen as a classic, Fallout 1, Deus Ex, BG1, Gothic etc.The are more classics played by millions without romance than with.
>>544275540>>544276000Cont. Forgot to replay to this>your point with this "most" argument?Simple, how is it an important part of something being considered an RPG if only a tiny fraction of games that classify as RPGs have it. And the above reply, even most of the classics don't have romance.
>Morrowind and Oblivion were played by millions and remembered as some if the best RPG gamesoh okay you were baitinggood job getting a (you) from me
>>544276181You have no argument as to why it's an essential part of RPG so you just retardpost.Role-playing games are defined by player agency, character progression, and decision-making that affects the game world or narrative, not by the presence of romance.romances are an optional storytelling mechanic, not a genre-defining criterion. RPGs are about role-playing, not dating simulation.
what's your favorite roleplaying in Morrowind
Terminal romancefags are lonely losers.Normal people do like romance as an option in RPGs, but they don't make it the prime reason for playing the game in the first place.
>>544264918They're both french first of all, so they probably want to stick together and support each other.Second, they both made good rpg games, and now the larger and more successful of the two is helping out their little brother make more good french rpg's.There is absolutely zero reason to believe this is anything other than a french developer who saw some success recently helping out another french developer who's games they liked. I think it's cute. But of course you come here to this place which is all disingenuous cynicism hiding behind layers of irony and insincerity so it's something bad.
Do normies honestly care about romance? Not talking about autists here or tumblrfags that obsess over husbandos and waifus and shit out art of them, I'm talking about the average customer that plays games. Will the presence of romance majorly influence their decision to buy a game?
>>544277234normies will buy something if it reviews well and isn't an obvious pile of garbage from the first trailer like veilguard was
>>544277234NormalFAGGOTS don't care about anything.NormalFAGGOTS really just buy what seems popular at the time. To a normalFAGGOT the average crpg is a shit game and only massive hits like BG3 get normalFAGGOT mainstream.
>normiesTo be fair CRPGs are pretty niche.A better question would be does the average person that plays CRPGs care that much about romance? Would the average CRPG fan decide not to buy a CRPG if it doesn't have romance in it?
Are any of the wotr dlcs worth it if i don't realy wanna play through mini dungeons on side characters or shit? I might just get Season pass 2 for the class/mask DLC since they actually add to the main game. Am I missing anything good otherwise?
>>544277234Why do you think there's almost always a romance scene or a designated romantic pairing in most normie movies even when the plot doesn't need it? Why do you think romcoms and these romantic movies like The Notebook are so popular with women if romance is not the appeal?
I was afraid that the nigress from RT will sound ghetto trash like Seelah, glad I was wrong, her unhinged voice is amazing.
>>544280126I read the "ghetto trash" part in dudley's voice
imagine being a female in bg2 and your only romance option is freaking anomen
>>544278074The Last Sakorian DLC lets you have another companion
>>544274720Except romances typically make characters more shallow and restricted, while wasting resources on awkward advances and superficial affection like giving gifts or saying nice things to them.When Baldur's Gate 2 is still the gold standard for romances in CRPGs you know shit is dire. 25 years and not a single good romance has been made.
>>544260270>splitting the loot
>>544281159Yeah, that and the dance of masks DLC were the two I was mostly looking at since they are main game content.
>>544268197>Owlkinolet's not get carried away
>Be Noctitula>Be the murder CEO of international murder company >Whored it out for gorillion of years>Slave train went fucking choo choo for gorillion of years >Amass so much power she could just ascend to godhood all willy nilly >I am bored of fucking and killing and killing and fucking and fucking and killing and slaving and killing and fucking now>From now on i am THE REDEEMER (sorry not sorry) QUEEN (yass bitch slay)>Everyone actually just said okay and went along with it and pretended that the gollion years of slaving and murdering and whoring did not existDepressingly realistic
>>544278074i've got last sarkorians, it's good. should be part of the main game desu.there's dlc i picked up later, it's like a second campaign. through the dust or something. the first half is good low econ stuff, the second half sucked. there's one that adds a roguelike mode: skip that one, it's a garbage mode (they can't even make random maps or random loot in a random game mod, owlcat overstretched by a lot) and half the stuff is removed if you do it in the middle of a campaign vs standalone.
>>544281127>imagine being a female in bg2 and your only romance option is freaking anomenNot like there are a lot of good options. HaerDalis and maybe Yoshimo (which makes his betrayal and potential of saving him more impactful) are the only real alternatives.
>>544281690what's depressing about it?do you just get depressed over everything anyway
>>544281690she's the goddess of indians so it balances out
>>544281690Isn't that how redemption works though?
>>544283634No? She didn't redeem shit, hell she didn't even say sorry. Bitch just went "i am good now" and automatically pardon herself of all the fucked up shit she did in the past
>>544281690You forgot to mention that she doesn't even disassmble the floating muderopolis of slavery she made, and her second in command (that telepathic courtroom bitch if I remember correctly) is now running it with what is basicly a demon lord with portofolio to old pre-god Noctiula.The goddes of "I'm ready to settle down now" lmao. Fuck her and Sorshen too
>chaotic neutral>good
nocticula and arueshalae's redemptions shouldn't have existed in the same gamethey thematically undermine each other
it's a fine morning to play some roles on the computer
>>544285492Not really, it's pretty much a running theme that there are multiple paths to things, redemption is no different. I mean the whole mythic path thing is an extension of that theme
Welp, it's fucking over. The bug has a male voice. There is only one female companion and she's a fucking robot. Game is doomed
>>544286219>dragon age the veilguardit's OVER
>>544281690Made for the Swarm
>>544286219Khali is probably a companion to but this game seems pretty doomed considering the only worthwhile fuckable companion is a robot.
>>544285492who should be called a redeemer>the succ that tries to do good while fighting her urges and tries to encourage it in others>the goddess that put the one above on said path>some demon girlboss who got bored and walked out the door
>>544286219>Romance has six (6) possible paths >Fat furry (gay)>Rat furry (gay) >Bug furry (gay) >Quirky companion who is totally a robot and not just to standard stock human female >Human male (gay)>Mystery box (gay?)Amazing selection
>>544286219>The bug is actually the gay vampire from BG3Did not expect that
more like afterfur
>>544286219>Fred He went from Saren and Megatron to a fursona. Grim.
>>544286219This is how you fags act about DH
>>544286219>From Bugsnax to thisFred...
>>544275152>it's good to have friendships/rivalries with your companions or certain NPCs, I rank this above romance in terms of importanceAgree. Also this >>544276663I'm glad to see this general isn't the total dolly smooching mush-brain that it sometimes seems, those are just the loudest voices I think.
Will Owlkek's DeathWatch CRPG flop because it will have no romance if they go the full Space Marine route?
>>544289465It will be a romance between the marine and the machine spirit of his weapons.
>>544289449
I like romance 2bh but mostly in the sense that I just like companions to have more depth or characterization. Romance can be a good tool to show that but it can also be a bad tool if its just there for smooching someone and nothing else. I just want companions that feel like they have shit going on.
>>544289465Maybe but I think moreso because women and other genders can't make their own character. Owlcat fans betrayed while marinesloppers don't play crpgs.
Wish owlcat would do a warhammer fantasy CRPG, I want RATS
>>544289862>I just want companions that feel like they have shit going on.What if that something is being in a relationship with someone's that's not the player. Idon't mean cuckoldry, but like Khalid and Jaheira from BG1 or Tali x Garrus?
>>544290147Sure, whatever. If this is some sort of gotcha I don't care. But overall its fine with me.
I just want a cool looking witch hunter companion for DH
Starting another run of Rogue trader, last time I was basically just replacing Argenta with my MC since I went full heresy and that just throws heretical bolters at you.Gimmie a fun build and help me decide between iconoclast and dogmatic. I was thinking about commissar officer but I don't really wanna be just a buffbot.
>>544289465Good point. I guess we'll do Only War instead.
>>544290036The starfinder game has all your gay rats
>>544291471What do take me for, some faggot? I want manly rats, not twinks
>>544290147>Idon't mean cuckoldry, but like Khalid and Jaheira from BG1 or Tali x GarrusBut that IS cuckoldry in broader contextFirstly: Denying the player women and flaunting how they are fucking another dude, seeing a hot woman claimed by another man is subconscious cuckoldry. You are the hero of the story and this is your "power fantasy", the game does revolve around the player and fullfiling his wishes.Secondly: Tali x Garrus is cuckoldry as well, because you are being punished for romancing someone else in another run, by seeing the girl your character has won being taken. It doesn't matter if it's "a different character" or "double standards" the player is the real reactive person there, the "Shepeard" is just his puppet, the player remains in all runs and that just destroys the point of that romance being made for the player theplayer and Tali's connction being unique.Faggots criticising this will say "but muh realism, muh immersion, muh reactive world, npcs having their own lives and don't revolve around player" no they fucking don't. It's a world that exists for the player. It's made for the player, it's not a self-running simulation. The games do in fact revolve around the player's actions. When you pause someone else isn't gonna continue your quest, the game world only exxists when you run the .exe fie. This isn't a player driven MMO. The game is meant to serve the player and his fantasy. To make the player satsfied. Devs know this and them taking away the important romance aspect of the hero's "save the world get the girl" goal is malicious. Why would they subvert it by making you watch a hot woman with another man while that world and it's charcters should please the player. Same goes for making the player watch the girl he won in one playthrough being claimed by a different guy in another.Now watch the retard reply with "UHH OTHER WOMEN IRL HAVE BFS SO YOUR ARE BEING KEKED HAHAHA" pasta thinking it's an own or addresses the point of this post.
>>544291735Werglia was right, romance is the worst thing to hit the gaming community after gambling/DLC whoring. It literally brainfried some people and attracted so may parasocial coomers to the communities.
>>544290147That's fine, and that's always been fine in the past. There is just one legitimately mentally ill poster here who rants about this and it throws off regular discussion. Two party members who are already dating when you meet them is fine, two party members hooking up with each other if you already choose to pass on both of them has always been fine, and a party member having an offscreen spouse is also fine. This entire topic has been flanderized here.There are some cases of strange writing in a few games, like Cassandra and Valerie randomly bringing up their exes during intimate scenes, but this is just awkward writing, it's not "cuckoldry". It may even be intentional awkward writing to convey that this individual is an awkward person, which actually fits for both of those characters. It's not mean to be a positive trait or a smooth move, these people are awkward people, and yet you get that one weirdo saying "WHAT DID SHE JUST SAY?!?!!". It's so tiresome.
>>544291735Go play one of those gacha games where the only male is the MC, you fucking deranged gooner.
>>544291735gem>>544292110>>544292292coal
>>544292110Honestly agree. I like romance in of itself, but man did it reduce the quality of discussion related to RPGs with romance and attracts so many mentally ill people.
>>544292458Beef>>544291735Pork
>>544291735Wew lad
>>544292292They never will, not even a gooner dating sims with succubi virgins >>544291735Every male character exists to cuck you
I just like the RP of ending up in a relationship and seeing how it developsAm also a sucker for wholesome and/or cute shit, and things like Arue's and Cassia's romances melt me wee heart
>>544292685You need to stop enjoying that and you need to die for liking something I don't you fucking gooner rapist pervert freak
>>544291735>Faggots criticising this will say "but muh realism, muh immersion, muh reactive world, npcs having their own lives and don't revolve around player" no they fucking don't. It's a world that exists for the player. It's made for the player, it's not a self-running simulation. The games do in fact revolve around the player's actions. When you pause someone else isn't gonna continue your quest, the game world only exxists when you run the .exe fie. This isn't a player driven MMO. The game is meant to serve the player and his fantasy. To make the player satsfiedI mean this is kind of true. But it doesn't have to be waifuism
Your waifu? Cucked you the moment she spoke to another man.
>>544292685You may be more at home with visual novels rather than crpgs
>>544293052My waifu is loyal to me and loves me. Fuck you libtard
Really if you think about it your waifu exists in alternate dimensions getting fucked by other player characters so she'll never be pure.I'm fucking your waifu in my game.She loves me more than she loves you.
>>544292292>>544292680>>544293162>>544293052Like clockwork, they never acknowledge the arguments or facts. Just cucks and simps insuting another for telling them the truth.
>it is not enough to spend resources on smooching dollies>now we must spend more on making other dollies smooch each otherkys romancefags
>>544293157Sorry but she looked another man in the eyes
>>544293162Holy cope, my waifu only exists for me and I'm the super-imposer imposing my will on her as the owner of the local save file. The only way I could be cucked is if someone used my save file, but even then in reality they're just using my character and in a sense wearing my clothes without ever taking my waifu from me. I won.
>>544293340I wish more games had the unsmooched dollies smooching each other. That would be interesting
>>544293362Whos your waifu
>>544293551>be a retarded consoomer paypiggie and buy outer slop 2>devs mock you for itbased as fuck, maybe obsidian isn't completely finished, they're at least self-aware that they no longer make good games
>>544293367Don't even remember anymore how this place was before Lex Imperialis added this cutscene
>>544293658The one with the widescreens proudly talked about how he pre-orderered Veilguard, he's a dumb paypiggie.
>>544293551This is overall a net gain>They call you stupid meanie wordsWho cares.
>>544293842>he pre-ordered Veilguardholy fuck what a retard hahah wf
unemployed obsidian dev here....josh sawyer used to always call himself a 'worker ally' but when i asked why he got a bonus while were getting fired he had security throw me out of the building
>>544293962fun fact: that's sawyer's hemorrhoids acting up and flaring up after 'oritos and a long sitting gaming sesh on the bike, and they took a pic of it to put in the game like this.
wheres the guy who said outer worlds isnt a crpg
>>544290554>Witch Hunter GF will be datamined in the alphaTrust me bro.
>>544294167my bro jamal from before? he's busy at your momma's place rn, someone's gotta pay for your outer worlds deluxe edition
>>544294320i look forward to being cucked by her
>>544293551?Yes the game has a flaw system with a bunch of different flaws and a theme of corpos and consumerism.
curiously lack of RT shill posts when its 10pm in india....
Is there anything more cucked than getting a stand-in dolly to smooch and fuck your waifu?Think about it. You spend all this time getting your stuntman-dolly just perfect and hoping that your desired romantic partner will be into him. You're basically asking to watch while your "MC" does what you can't.The worst part is that it's even lower than actual cucking, it's cucking yourself with virtual dolls. If you can't see how bad this is then you're already too far gone.
>>544294813why are chudcels so obsessed with jeets?
>>544294813indians identify with the imperium
>>544291735>but like Khalid and JaheiraThey were a couple, that's not cucking. If you think it is you're an ignorant retard that is so far gone your brain has started to rot.>Firstly: Denying the player women and flaunting how they are fucking another dudeThis is mentally ill behavior. Is this how you react when you hit on someone at a bar or party and they say they're already in a relationship?
There should be a CRPG where kissing dollies is approached Genghis Khan style
>>544295137>t.didn't read the rest of the posts and can't help to draw real world analogies
>>544295320Maybe condense your autism and come up with a good argument if you want a serious reply. I'm not your tard wrangler.
>>544295137there are no dragons or elves in real life, hope this helps
>>544295552>Faggots criticising this will say "but muh realism, muh immersion, muh reactive world, npcs having their own lives and don't revolve around player" no they fucking don't. It's a world that exists for the player. It's made for the player, it's not a self-running simulation. The games do in fact revolve around the player's actions. When you pause someone else isn't gonna continue your quest, the game world only exxists when you run the .exe fie. This isn't a player driven MMO. The game is meant to serve the player and his fantasy. To make the player satsfied. Devs know this and them taking away the important romance aspect of the hero's "save the world get the girl" goal is malicious. Why would they subvert it by making you watch a hot woman with another man while that world and it's charcters should please the player. Same goes for making the player watch the girl he won in one playthrough being claimed by a different guy in another.
The dudes obsessed with cucking, have you ever been in a real relationship?
What's wrong with cuckolding?
Some of us like being cucked, y'know.
>>544295737>>544295842based owlcat fans
>>544295646>Maybe condense your autism and come up with a good argument if you want a serious reply. I'm not your tard wrangler.See >>544295552Present a point in a concise manner. I don't waste time on idiots that can't even do this.>>544295604Cuckoldry doesn't magically mean whatever your deranged ignorant mind thinks it means whenever it's convenient.Two people being in a relationship isn't cuckoldry or cheating.He/You are simply retarded and can't think of another good buzzword to use to try and sound more legitimate with, so you default to cucking because you're an idiot.If you don't like being told you're factually wrong, then maybe don't say wrong shit in the first place.
You can just stop replying to bait you know. it's always the same shit for years now.
If she breathes the same air as another man, you lost
>>544296010wthelly are you talkin bout nigga, man shut yo nerdy ass up before i have to do it myself nigga, bitchmade nigga talkin to me like im his daddy
>>544295646Games are not your personal power fantasies and don't solely exist to stroke your ego in every single line of code.
The girl I'm seeing won't stop asking other men for their semen and childrenAm I being cucked?
>>544295306Rance>>544295604You also don't have to worry about getting laid irl so idk why you're worried about getting cucked.
>>544296271the fuck does rance mean? speak english bitch ass nigga fuck are you talking about? ching chong chang rance rice? shut yo ass up, i'm getting laid with your momma tonite bitchboi
>>544296291la luz extinguido...
>>544296702i miss the page translate prompts when enough muttposting happened
>>544291735I mostly agree with you but I wish your post wasn't so cringe inducing. There's no reason to take these things to such a weird extreme and those that do may be mentally unwell.>being punished for romancing someone else in another runI think they should not have written it this way but I also think that Tali would have preferred Shep in all her fantasies and its natural for her to find her way to the lesser man when the better one rejects her. But it shouldn't have been written in at all, I agree.
>I mostly agree
>When I was a child I wanted to grow up and be a performative male rapist like Avellone and Sawyer! That's all I wanted, it's all that kept me going. Obsidian Entertainment is the only place I could see myself working at.
playing mass effect 1 again (LE) and holy shit the game is so ridiculously atmospheric its unrealshould I also replay DA: origins or did it not age as well, I guess ME1 has the advantage of having LE
i've been playing for like 70 hours up until this point and the first person i feel bad about in this game is this fuckass goblin
>>544298050You better let him be Heroand I better play Kingmaker at some point again, dropped it after 20 hours
>>544298050what the fuck is that portrait anon
>>544298794You don't like art, you uncultured swine?
>>544298863NNo it's just interesting in a weird way I guess. I don't think it's a default portrait.
>>544298794it's a self portrait i commisioned of a gay mexican in a spandex carrying a fat bird. why do you ask?
>>544298794whats wrong with it
>>544297081>I mostly agree with youwhat did you agree with in his schizopost besides the tali example?
Should I use a two handerr or dual wield as a ranger in Wrath?
>>544298794It's Robbie Rotten.
>>544299487embedded 'p in image
>>544281690Yeah no, her whole redemption thing should be elaborated on and explained what exactly she is actually doing that earns her that redemption. As it is, it's just a repeat of gestapo agents post-WW2 escaping to other countries and pretending nothing happened.
>>544299603just saw actual embeded 'p on the dark heresy thread on /v/
>>544299704owlchads would never
I have received significant amounts of information on Dark Heresy. I have decided to fully reveal it here, for my own amusement, as you will at first deny it all, then slowly, to your growing horror, realize everything I typed here is the truth.First, the basics: The character building and combat. Dark Heresy character building is significantly dumbed down and simplified compared to RT, there are less choices, less feats, less everything, and what does remain has been stripped down to the bare basics. Owlcat basically just threw in the towel and streamlined everything as much as possible, and the result is the simplest, most uninteresting character building options we've ever seen in an Owlcat game. The combat is a trivialized joke, every single encounter is the easiest thing in the world, and the terror/morale system is the culprit. It's far worse than even momentum was, and if you have half a brain, every encounter is ended with its use very, very quickly. There's no challenge whatsoever, and the games combat feels like the developers resented it even being there and it's just a momentary obstruction before you can get back to the all important story.Now, as for the narrative and dialogue "mechanics", AKA the investigations, what you have to realize is that Owlcat has basically take their stupid obsessive minigames and married them completely into the entire game structure this time. It's no longer an annoyance that sits somewhat outside the main game systems, instead it's fully integrated and it's just as clunky, irritating and dumb as all their previous minigames, except this time you can't avoid it as its part of the main thrust of the game. Now as for the story and the characters, holy shit, I don't know if GW was holding the reins or the other members of the team that are working on the Expanse kept this from happening in previous efforts, but whatever team is in charge of Owlcat now has gone full retard.
>>544283634if there are no standards for redemption then redemption as a concept doesn't actually exist
>>544299878Fuck out of here faggot.
>>544281690embers talk no jutsu was too strong for her to handle
>>544299878imma be honest with you king, the moment i saw there were no white women to romance i knew the game was DOA. where the hot white companion bitches at ?
How did they go full retard you ask? Well, basically, they went full woke. This game is so over the top it’s going to make Obsidian blush. The entire story and narrative is a subversive deconstruction of 40K and the Imperium in particular, which seems to be the stand in for the evil patriarchal society of evil men that the writers seem hell bent on attacking in every way possible. Also, the Radical/Puritan divide is a joke, the game was clearly written with Radical in mind and Puritan is a last minute afterthought, I would actually argue the Puritan path in Dark Heresy is worse than the Heretic path in Rogue Trader it’s so abysmal. The Radical path ends with you abandoning and rejecting the Imperium entirely and going rogue, and the Puritan path ends with you getting killed by the Imperium despite your loyalty to make certain you never speak of what you learn about the Tyrant Star. Now, as for the characters, this is where it gets really insane. >Epione SpesAs much of a girlboss as you would expect in every way, but with the added bonus of being a refugee talking point. She arrived in the system fleeing her old planet and was met with hostility and violence, (this is how her face got fucked up) but she “nobly” rises above it all and proves through her incredible girl bossness that she’s just better at everything and super awesome, and everybody regrets it and realizes how great she is. No really, that’s her story. She’s one of two romanceable companions, by the way, and yes, just two, both her and Haymar are all you’re getting, and both are playersexual. She can favor both Puritan and Radical choices but she skews a bit towards Radical.
>Haymar DevosActually seems entirely normal up until you do his quest where his “big secret” is hinted at and heavily implied, though you will finish the quest with nothing more than logical conclusions rather than outright admission, UNLESS you do his romance, where you will find out that he is actually a FtM tranny. The revelation is given post coitus where he asks how he performed, as although he is experienced it’s his first time doing it with “this kind of equipment”. Like Epione he can favor both Puritan and Radical choices but in his case he skews towards Puritan. Cogg:His main role seems to be that of the stooge, he blindly recites Imperial creeds and dogmas, is totally Puritan aligned, and basically is there as the punching bag for pretty much the entire narrative and the other characters as a result, as he is portrayed as being noble, but foolish and dumb for going along with the Imperium despite its mistreatment of him and others like him. Absolute garbage that doesn’t fit with 40K at all but that’s what he is and does.Ra’akhti:Noble savage, the character. Super enlightened and mystical and right about everything, and constantly points out the superiority of T’au and Kroot culture over the barbarism and evil of the Imperium, and laments how fucked up and stupid Humans and the Imperium all, constantly, if you do not agree she basically regards you as an evil retard. Skews heavily Radical, the most Radical in the party in fact.
>>544300080>>544300304Could you at least reveal some unrevealed companions assuming this is not shitposting
feels late to do DH doomposting when we're going to find out either way in 6 weeks
Laarthyr:A faggot. Seriously. And not just a faggot, but one of the super annoying mega ultra faggots that never, ever stops bringing up their sexuality. Even the most random dialogue with this queer will involve some comment on his faggotry, whether about his special Eldar boyfriend who he joined the Corsair life for, or a random comment about how dumb the mon’keigh are for not embracing all the different types of sexuality the way the Eldar have and do. It’s actually nuts but basically no matter what subject you ask the guy about he manages to bring up the fact he’s a faggot, in every single dialogue tree he has. Pretty Radical aligned, but has sections where he favors the Puritan approach if dealing with shit that’s fucked up enough. Admech chick is gonna be a whole reference to the handicapped and disabled, you’ll get it when they reveal her. Asian Psyker is going to imply the upper classes of the Imperium are mostly if not all white and that the non whites in the Imperium are the ones carrying everything and doing everything, a point on which he and Epione heavily bond over.Anyway, that’s the breakdown. I know you guys probably won’t believe this, which is why it’s going to be all the more satisfying to watch as you slowly realize that everything I said is real as more and more information comes out about the game. Enjoy.
>>544300487its fucking OVER FUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRKKKKK
>>544300378Ork milkersTrust the plan
>>544300304>constantly points out the superiority of T’au and Kroot culture over the barbarism and evil of the Imperium, and laments how fucked up and stupid Humans and the Imperium all, constantlyBased Now Yrliet won't be the most hated character ITT
>>544299878>>544300080>>544300304>>544300487>emet selchis Owlcat a fan of ff14. I don't believe you on some of this though. RT wasn't overly "woke" why would DH suddenly be.
>>544300487>received significant information>doesn't know the namescome on now
>>544300487We won't since you didn't even bother to make anything up about the psyker, the other companion we saw and the fct that a lot of the shit you say is nonsesne and contradicted by what was revealed so far in streams in interviews. Such as you saying that kroot chick talks about superiority of T'au...yet she isn't a part of T'au, they are isolated Kroot tribes on a imperial planet. She doesn't know what T'au are most likely
>>544300487but is he a fun faggot like daeran was
>>544300681>RT wasn't overly "woke" why would DH suddenly be.Each game has been getting more and more woke.Yrliet was a coded reference to an irl closeted lesbian, so now they've gained confidence they're going all out with Larry being open homofag
>>544300681Because they need money to fund the shit idea that is 100% VA work, and the woke pyramid scheme is the only way they're getting it.
>>544299878>Now, as for the narrative and dialogue "mechanics", AKA the investigations, what you have to realize is that Owlcat has basically take their stupid obsessive minigames and married them completely into the entire game structure this time. It's no longer an annoyance that sits somewhat outside the main game systems, instead it's fully integrated and it's just as clunky, irritating and dumb as all their previous minigames, except this time you can't avoid it as its part of the main thrust of the game. >>Now as for the story and the characters, holy shit, I don't know if GW was holding the reins or the other members of the team that are working on the Expanse kept this from happening in previous efforts, but whatever team is in charge of Owlcat now has gone full retard.pretty vague bro. need more info.
>>544300080>She’s one of two romanceable companions, by the way, and yes, just two, both her and Haymar are all you’re getting,You are lying they already confirmed a admech romance. Plus Owlkek knows how thirsty femcels were for Pasqal and Marzipan and all the whining for ArgentaDo not believe this dude!! Im guessing he's the fag who keeps crying about how unappealing DH characters are.
>>544300681Define "woke" here because KM having a half orc and a half elf being in an open relationship was pretty woke.
>>544300910>Yrliet was a coded reference to an irl closeted lesbianGod I fucking wish, then she'd actually be a character and comprehensable arc. not a travesty of a plot device. yrliet has no character because she conflicts herself multiple times because they had no fucking idea what they where doing writing her.
>>544300927They must have started this before Trump pulled the plug on USAID
>>544300304>>544300487are the xenos really not branded? they're just allowed to be faggots to inquisitors with no repercussions?
>>544301179>implying USAID is the only font of jewish pyramid schemes
2025 I am forgotten...
>The developer is also pushing the boundaries of romance. Shestov acknowledges that a “main fault” of Rogue Trader was the unromanceable Mechanicus companion, Pasqal. Rejoice, robot lovers, because that’s changing this time around. “We are fighting hard to make this particular companion, the Mechanicus one, romanceable,” he says. “And it would be the craziest romance I've ever encountered in a role-playing game.”https://www.thegamer.com/warhammer-40k-dark-heresy-gritty-dark/He's trying to make all the characters seem mega unappealing. Girlboss, trans, faggot. Don't believe him lmao
>>544301331>He's trying to make all the characters seem mega unappealingyour quote doesn't disprove this tho
>>544301139>then she'd actually be a character and comprehensable arcYeah it's unfortunate. I do believe that "closeted lesbian" was somewhere in there in the original inspiration for her, but all character development got pushed aside for exposition and lore dumping. "Plot device" is exactly what she became.
>>544301324gay blacks are honorary aryans
>>544301404Im sorry Rambo isnt gritty enough for you but you don't have to say he's trans because you hate him
>>544301331>We are fighting hard to make this particular companion, the Mechanicus one, romanceable,”"Unfortunately, we weren't able to succeed"
>>544301331>Fighting to make them romanceable>FightingGW is not going to allow that any more than they allowed Argenta.
Someone send the leak to Starrok and ask him if it's trve?
>>544301653>implying that was GWIt's just owlcat being faggots per usual.
I will kiss the epone dolly
Warhammer: Dark Flop, it's obvious that owlcat wants to move on and shit it out real fast so they can focus on their first big project and make their BG3/TW3/KCD2 esque game
yes commoners, I, the head game developer, care too about your peasant struggles and added more gays, trannies, and black women to the game. now go back to working 12 hours unpaid overtime so i can fire you at the drop of a hat
I look at that thread on /v/ nearing reply limit which is entirely comprised of people wanting to fuck Twi'leks and I cannot fathom why CRPG developers keep making sci-fi games without hot alien babes.
>>544301818Devs believe it's wrong to want to fuck hot alien babes
>>544301818to be fair twileks are disgusting creatures
>>544301793this is going to biggest turn and burn asset flip since dragon age 2
>>544301714I mean if it was purely Owlcats decision he wouldn't say that they're "fighting to make the Mechanicus companion romanceable", since they would just be able to do it outright.
>>544301818anon /v/ might as well be /ev/ ecchi vidya flavored
>>544302071>>544302071
>>544301996They'll vaguely imply that GW said no when in fact it was nothing of the sort
>>544301996>slavs lying while trying to pass the blameSay it ain't so. They already lost their benefit of doubt on this with Amiri. They also tried to blame that on Paizo until the owner shut it down.
>>544302114Your image has nothing to do with CRPGs therefore I will wait until someone bakes an actual new bread.
We gonna time how long before that gets nuked?
What happened to "Dark Heresy is the game that really wanted to make"
>>544302485that's against vg rules to spam generals because you are upset at the op
>>544302485I could make one but I don't know if people are going to use it
>Schizos flaring up>related /v/ threads>OP snipingRiveting thread /crpgg/.
>>544280126Where are you hearing her voice? New trailer?
>>54428012640gay uses Brits why would she sound like Seelah
>>544302802I won't use the Epstein one
Actual new thread without politics faggotry in the OP:>>544303052>>544303052
>40k slopokay good japes all around guys, now where's the ACTUAL thread?
>>544182740Vampire 2 was such a flop that the thread didn't even survive a week? Lmao.Anyway, did anyone play it? Any fun memes or screencaps from the thread that was around here for a while?
>>544268671To this day, I still mope over the fact that Thug Hero Party is basically another spin on Orested arc
>>544281690She's still a neutral-evil god in PF2, and people still don't like her. She WANTS to be redeemed, and push people to, but that doesn't mean she was accepted by the "good" pantheon yet.If you played the fucking game you would also know that demons are basically animals, they can't work past their "nature" and that's why they are jobbers, Mephisto makes that clear, and that's why humans who ascend into demonhood (Areelu, Demon KC) are way more terrifying, since they can think outside of the box
>>544281690>murder CEO scuttles her international murder company>stops whoring it out, breaking a gorillion year pattern>derails the slave train>greatest blow to the forces of evil probably ever>BUT SHE DIDN'T SAY SORRY THOUGHThere's no interdimensional alignment court she needs to appease. If she stops doing evil and starts doing good instead, that's it.It's like, if a paladin turns evil, he doesn't have to cancel out every good deed he's done before he loses his paladin powers.
