Imoen Edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, The Elder Scrolls, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>543931109>Thread QuestionIs the latest entry in your favorite RPG series any good?
>>544054243>Is the latest entry in your favorite RPG series any good?No lol. Bloodlines and Dragon Age both got botched.
Imoen isn't really the main character's sister, you know.
>>544054243no
>>544054243>Is the latest entry in your favorite RPG series any good?haha...
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Queen Galfrey removes me from command and orders me to go into the abyss and I have no choice to kill her on the spot? Yeah im thinking wotr is a bad role-playing game
>>544054913Now, imagine if that scene was actually pretty sensible in the TT but Owlcat made it that way for extra drama™
>>543997654>All this Sorin Markov art I'm finding would be perfect for my Lich run but I don't think I could divorce myself from the fact that it's Sorin MarkovThere's tons of good undead art from MtG. Or just go with unofficial.
>>544054243>Is the latest entry in your favorite RPG series any good?I don't have favorite game series. I judge every game on its own merits
>>544054563>Imoen isn't really the main character's sister, you know.Bhaal is the daddy
>>544054913How I felt
>>544054243You love Imoen but hate Leliana. Care to explain?
>>544054913Only if it results in a dead end with mini-epilogue like rejecting the inheritance in RT>Noo why can't I just kill the person who gave me the army and is supplying it in the first place! I'm a fucking b@d@$$!
>>544056958you can kill her afterwards though and there are absolutely no repercussions because she's a dumb useless bitchyou have a weird inferiority complex to NPCs pretty consistently
>>544056958Lol she does a great job without you right
>>544056958owlkeks love power fantasies regardless of sensei'm sure there are a bunch that soifaced when areelu tells them they rival pharasma
>rogue trader is coming to the switch 2Why?
>>544057404I stopped caring when Areelu's backstory turned out to be based on a retcon.
>>544057431Why not? Some nintentards are gonna buy it.
>>544057431because 40sloppers are juicy piggybanks
I picked up wrath of the righteous and am gonna play through it but I have a few questionsI've played some tabletop PF before, but not super versed in it. Is Core gonna cuck me or should I do an easier difficulty?I've also heard you need like a buff autocaster or you just spend a lot of time fucking around with setting up buffs every day in game. Is that true?I was thinking of playing a bloodrager, they any decent or should I try another class?
>>544058240Unless you enjoy getting really deep into the system, planning things out, reloading frequently, lots of start and stop I think a lower difficulty works better.I'd even argue that using Toybox to modify things so it becomes less tedious is also useful. The game is a pretty big chore if you're used to other CRPGs.
>>544058240>buff autocasterIts fine at first, you're just casting delay poison because little dretches keep farting everywhere. Then you start casting protection from alignment because it helps against succubi enchantments and hey the added AC is nice. Then you start tossing in protection from elements, fire maybe because you want someone to drop a fireball without worrying about crisping half the party, and you have to do this to every party member unless you have the communal version, and then you start thinking maybe this ability drain I keep being fucked up by is kindof annoying so everyone should get a death ward spell too...and so on.Kingmaker had less bullshit thrown at you, in WotR there's a lot of status effects and irritations the demon type enemies cause so you end up just prebuffing every time you load into a new zone and after a while it gets really boring without the autobuffer.
>>544058240Core will give you a good challenge as a new player who doesn't understand the strong interactions yes. Yes, you'll die, but you aren't playing Ironman, and you won't ever get stuck or anything. You can adjust the difficulty midgame.Download the addon "Bubblebuffs". It is so integrated with the game that it feels like it should be a base part of the game. No reason not to use it.Bloodrager has multiple strong archetypes.
>>544057431So I can play with my 40dollies in pubic
>>544058240>Is Core gonna cuck me or should I do an easier difficulty?I always recommend entirely new players to play on Normal. You can change it at any point (even mid-combat) and there are a lot of custom settings so you can find what fits how you want to play perfectly.>I've also heard you need like a buff autocaster or you just spend a lot of time fucking around with setting up buffs every day in game. Is that true?imo that's more for difficulties above Core. Or it's from butthurt people who are trying to play on Core (or higher) but should be playing lower.>bloodragerAnything's viable on Normal or Core, so sure. I tend to recommend a straightforward class for entirely new players, something martial or pure caster. Whenever you combine two areas of strength each part will necessarily be a little weaker. So while a gish might sound cool at first (martial? spellcasting? how about both!) there are some pretty major trade-offs. Same thing holds for the temptation of multiclassing.If I were to do bloodrager I would only take buff spells and not even worry about trying to hit DC with anything, and just be kind of a self-buffing martial.Again on Normal any class is viable.
>>544058667In theory I don't mind most of that stuff but I can see how it would be annoying in practice.>>544058808I'll think on Core vs an easier difficulty I guess.I'll get that mod, it doesn't sound like using it should ruin a new player experience.Primalist seems the way to go if i use bloodrager right?>>544059348Thanks. Maybe I'll just try normal. Part of me feels wounded not going with Core to start with but if it's more for game/system veterans that makes sense. I just don't know if I'll be playing the game again to experience Core.What would you recommend for a melee oriented character to start with?
>>544058240>I've also heard you need like a buff autocaster or you just spend a lot of time fucking around with setting up buffs every day in game. Is that true?My last playthrough I decided to have a dedicated buffer and almost exclusively cast buffs in combat. It worked really nicely. I did some longterm ones in the beginning of the map but it was all of 15 seconds. Like, not everyone needs Barkskin or Death Ward or something. You don't need Resist Fire and Protection from Fire both, and not everyone needs it, etc.
Possible contenders for crpg of the year in 2026 from most to least likely >dark heresy >solasta 2>clockwork revolution>starfinder >banquet for fools>swordhaven>secret of the weepstone >legends of the round table
>>544059614>Part of me feels wounded not going with Core to start withNothing's stopping you. Again you can change the difficulty anytime, even during combat. You can set custom settings too, there's a whole page of them, in case you want something a bit between Normal and Core, for instance.One recommendation is Hunter: Tandem Executioner. It's one of the newer classes, and it has a pet. You get to choose synergy feats with your pet but lose the hunter spells (big whoop, they kind of suck) so it can be you and your animal wrecking in melee together.
>>544060278>dark heresyIts this one but any kind of official awards will go to whichever company pays most
>>544060278starfinder is 2027dh is likely 2027 (rt dlc is still coming late 2026 and that's before any inevitable delays)
>>544060278As someone who has played the demo/ea for both switch swordhaven and weepstone
>>544060278Finally this general will have games!
>>544060647RT team is not the Dark Heresy team. The team working on RT is a smaller and doesn't involve the main team from RT.
Whew, actually hit a TPK in the Shadowrun: Hong Kong bonus campaign. Tougher combat than in the base campaign so far. Granted I went the "fuck all y'all" route and was fighting way too many people.I could have used Shadow better, since I'm fighting against two sides who are also fighting each other. And elementals' Pacify ability. It's when reinforcements came that I knew I was finished.
>>544060441I know nothing's stopping me, so maybe I'll give it a try and worst case is I get butthurt and tone down the challenge. I'll look into that class but I only have the base game ATM.
What is crpg of the year 2025?
>>544061432Expedition 33.2023 had an amazing showing with both bg3 and rogue trader, and 2025 was solid with Exp 33, but 2024 was a quiet year. 2026 is looking to be a close competition year with several big releases, including Solasta 2, Dark Heresy, new Arc Line, Clockwork Revolution, and Afterlight. Out of those, my money is on Dark Heresy, but it'll be the first year with actual competition in a while.
>Shotguns are stronger than autos now>Shotguns stun more consistently than Cassia unless target is boss(Invuled to prone)>Priest origin now completely creeps Psykers in melee >Argenta is once again king of damage>Snipers are even more shit>Eldar companions are literally handicapping your teambuild>Cold Trader hag can pass literally every check on her own Diviner style now>Heretic can explode any boss with perils via Psyber. Turn one.>Bounty Hunter's chain-buffing exploit is still there>Abelard is now stronger than Heinrix>Priest Bladedancer can solo the game on Unfair without Psychic awakening.>Cassia's Point of Interest nerf is literally a nothing burger because she gets 7 action points every turn.>DoT still claps>Laser still claps>Cassia still claps and a must have in every party>Psyker's Breastplate is now a noobtrap Gravesinger style.>>"UHHH THE BLADEDANCER'S JUMP IS SO BAD NOW DEVS HOW COULD BE SO STUPID PLEASE REVERTTT IT!!!"Frog would've had a field day with this patch...
>>544054243it was solid, though I hope the next protagonist is just a dude with a comp
>>544060278>clockwork revolutionHas highest cinematic values which makes it the most likely to winIf not it then Dark HeresyUnless Expanse releases in 2026. It might be the winner then
>>544062962also yakumo got shafted AGAIN and was barerly explored which bugs me because a neutral anti-hero was one of the most interesting concepts 5 had
>>544062819But crpgg told me Expedition 33 is not a crpg
>>544062819Did hearing Shadowheart's voice trigger you?
Anyone tried the demo yet? It has a qt elf character in it. Also cute halfling girls, sadly not playable in the demo though.
>hey Ranger. I know you are only here to get support from the patriarch, and actually his ending literally everything turned out fine for Colorado and he kept his word not only saving the desert rangers but making them thrive>but uhhhhhhhh fuck him because he uhhhhhh dealt with the raiders by putting them in prison instead of killing them so you should free the raider leader and put him in charge cause fuck raiderswhat did Angela mean by this Genuinely?
>>544062819what a dumb fucking post
I demand a dlc where I take idira to the casino and abuse her psyker precognition to win before eventually having it backfire and have us meet our warp induced commupance for daring to cheat fate
Now that Microsoft is clamping down across the board, will Sawyer actually try to release something that's good?
>>544064825I believe not
>>544054461Was any dragon age aside from the original one even good? I feel like they made one good gsme then the rest has all been efforts to normalize them.
>>544056776I don't hate leliana.
>>544064825Obsidian and the entire segment of rpg devs have only made something good when they had a baseline to work off of firstice wind dale 2 never winter nights 2 Kotor 2 new vegas fallout 2 even what they should have done was beg Bethsaida to let them make a game off of skyrims engine or something 12 years ago now that bioware is too shitty even for them
>>544063418it's literally a jrpg with added qte's
>>544065041I like 2 and Inquisition
>>544061259I don't recall if that class is in the base game.Bloodrager is fine, it's just that instead of pure martial who worries about, generally, Str (for hitting/damage unless you go finesse), Dex (for some AC bonus), Con (health/fort)... You also now have Cha for your spellcasting. So while some of these don't have to be super high (if you go finesse then you can de-emphasize str, but also be aware of encumbrance, and it will be awhile until you can apply Dex to damage) and Con also affects how many times per day you can rage (later there is a way to perma-rage)It's not a bad choice and doesn't overlap with any companions, it's just a bit more to be aware of than something like Two-Handed Fighter, or a Sorcerer who's like "I just burn everything", or a Wizard focusing primarily on one school.Also even with those classes that might feel a little singular, there's a lot of possibility for differentiating your character with feats and equipment.The one full caster you get as a companion is pretty unsufferable, so straight-up Wizard isn't a bad recommendation either. But if you want to do melee also consider Barbarian, very similar to Bloodrager but without the casting stuff. Barbarian's really fun, actually. (just don't take extra rage feats, there's something better later)
>>544065427How are JRPGs not CRPGs? They're RPGs that you're playing on a computer.
>>544056776I don't hate leliana but she is a fantasy french bislut bard so I can understand why some people wouldn't like her. I thought her doing a casual racism against my dalish elf after her talking about how all the races should get along more was funny.
>>544065634We can also extend the definition of Computer, and what it means to play a role, so that Zelda on a Gameboy is a CRPG.But nobody really thinks it is. Just like nobody thinks JRPGs are CRPGs. It's just a matter of not being autistic.
>>544065634jrpgs are designed for consoles and are stuck in their own seperate bubble of never-evolving shovelware
you know outer worlds 2 is bad that i haven't heard a single person even doom post about it or even mock it avowed released and was forgotten about the next weekbrutal
Actually, how would you personally categorize the difference between JRPG and CRPG besides "I know it when I see it"?
>>544066147everything is life in i know it when i see it. if you don't get it, you're just retarded.its like saying call of duty is an arena shooter because well technically all multiplayer maps are an arena like just shut the fuck up. you know exactly what people mean when they say jrpg
>>544065967I just don't see how it's not an RPG game simply because it's made in Japan.
>>544066147japenese design philosophy vs western/European design philosophy
>>544066147If I like it it's a crpg
>>544066147does it still play the same (niggas taking turns in a row, pokemon attack menu) as a final fantasy game made 30 years ago? then its a jrpg
>>544066287because that's not anyone's point if it was, we would call dark souls a jrpg but we don't.
>>544065984>Are designed for consoleEverything is designed for multiplatform now, pretty much every CRPG is also available on console now, is BG2 a JRPG now since you can play it on the Playstation?
Stardew is a crpg. Theres combat, dialogue options and level progression trust me
>>544066147JRPG's will usually have a linear story with no choices that is told to you. You watch a fully animated and voice acted cutscene of Titus, Lightning, Luna, Fang, etc all talking to each other for important story bits. You sit back and watch a movie.For CRPG, the palyer clicking on options in dialogue that lead to at least a couple different possible question resolutions or game endings is a core identifier for the different genres.They both have parties of characters, character progression, classes, xp, items, etc so there are tons of overlap between the two genres and they're sibling genres you might say, but they are distinct.Exp 33 fits the JRPG tag in all aspects except that it was actually made by french people lol. But I still include it in discussions of RPG's in general, because it is strong in many of the things modern audiences desire in a computer role-playing game, even if it has a linear story with cutscenes you watch for important story bits, instead of the crpg style player choices. Being anal about these slight genre definitions has never been important to most people, or with people who appreciate a good RPG regardless of genre quibbling, so it is the role-playing game of the year, without very much competition.
>>544066669There's romance in Stardew Valley, right? That would give it CRPGs most important feature, at least going by the most discussed subjects in this general.
>>544063418It's more of a CRPG than DE
>>544066925That's a very flimsy definition, so you think a JRPG magically becomes a CRPG if there is choice & consequences and a CRPG is suddenly a JRPG if it doesn't have it?
>>544066938Yeah even people tying to twist it to cuck talk because they are broken.
>>544064458Nobody tried this?
Is Alpha Protocol a CRPG?
>>544067117That's a reductionist version of what I said, that also misses the entire last part of what I said which is that minor quibbles over sibling genre definitions is pointless, but yeah basically. If important story bits are told to you with no input from you and you're sitting back watching a movie, then I would say that game has jrpg story design philosophy. If the game pauses and checks flags for things you done or said and gives you choices to make which lead to a different ending than another player got, then I would say that is more in line with western CRPG design philosophy. Pretty much.Obviously there are going to be japanese style games with choices, and there are a million western rpg's that have no variation in storyline, but this is one of those general rules of thumb that will guide you when you are quibbling over minor genre definitions on the internet.Personally, as I said, this sort of conversation is somewhat pointless, as sub-genres under the umbrella of Role-playing game are all hugely overlapping, and it's not like I'm going to block a JRPG developer from attending the role-playing game of the year awards if he made a damn good role-playing game that year. Exp33 is game of the year, as well as role-playing game of the year, and that doesn't change no matter how much people quibble over the differences between a WRPG CRPG or JRPG. They're all siblings.
What if the story bits are told to you through walls of useless prose? A novel crammed into a few hours, perhaps?
>>544066938>Farm sims have more in common with crpgs than anything Obsidian
Has anyone done the crusader mechanics as is? It seems insanely tedious and I'm happy I can bypass it with mods.
Watched that chink's video linked last thread and I must say I'm hopeful for Dark Heresy after hearing some of the details. Investigations aren't a seperate mini-game they seem to be just collecting clues from NPCs and world with being able to miss/gain some depending on your choices as well. Then looking through the investigation clue journal and along with asking input from companions you can draw your conclusions which can be right or wrong. So it's more or less a side quest system that comes with detective work. Morale system sounds good too and the archetypes changes where each class can specialize into branching paths that give their own bonuses and skills. I guess that's ehat they meant when anons here saw from an article that the talents "might be bundled". This should reduce talent bloat and not just throwing in filler skills.The only thing I'm skeptical of is the claim that Owlcat knows the game is trivial past act 2 and will try to make it tougher and slower so it's not just one round clears. They did a bad job in 1.5. They made the game easier. The guys that played the demo at gamescom said they had a challenging fight while trying to rescue hostages and got their teeth kicked in, but who knows maybe those are game journo shitters.
Nocticula'stheme is INSANELY GOOD. When it first drops when you first meet her, it's CRAZY GOOD!
>>544069781I forgot to ask, how's the soundtrack in Rogue Trader? im going to play it after WOTR
>>544070140NTA, but it's my favorite of the Owlcat games
>>544067416More or lessFucking mad that we'll never ever get a sequel, loved that milf
>>544068961Malice is a bro who never betrayed me, instead he helped meFake Commissar did betray me
>>544054913Galfrey is the Yrliet of WotR
I’m skeptical but my blogger friend who got early access absolutely insists to me Outer Worlds 2 is the closest thing to New Vegas that Obsidian has yet made>the game’s 3 faction conflict is essentially a flashback to FNV main quest philosophy >is actually sympathetic to pro-capitalist arguments, uses Bioshock esque talking points to justify siding with the mega corporation faction over the authoritarian one and the cult>backgrounds are far more pervasive than lifepaths from Cyberpunk, come up in dialogue often>extremely boring first act followed by a consequence rich 2nd-3rd act but an abrupt ending, far more extensive slideshow end than the first game>the companions are far more light skinned than in the trailer lineup lighting shots aside from the one obviously black guy>lots of visual bugs but not game breaking >seemingly self aware of being owned by Microsoft >the game not only acknowledges a psychopath “kill everyone” run but accounts for it as a genuine story route
>>544071135Yeah both deserve to die
>>544071135Valerie is the Galfrey of IBS
>>544054913I've always found posts like this disingenuous. You can't seriously be seething about this right? All the threads you were unraveling were leading you to Alushinyrra anyway. I can understand wanting to get back at her but not these foaming at the mouth responses. It's not like Tristian who gets your barony raped repeatedly or Yrliet who gets you and the crew mindraped, Galfrey is just petty at worst.
>>544067195why don't you tell us about it
>>544071681Sounds like it would have made for a good CRPGoh well, too bad
>>544071857>Galfrey is just petty at worst.Exactly her being petty at her position/age is retarded
>>544068961Malicebro please.
>>544072149Sure but the frothing at the mouth is ridiculous. Has always felt played up to me. Even if you killed her on the spot you'd still have to go in the hole.
i'd go through galfrey's hole
Why do most people on here think WotR is the greatest RPG ever made when a good number of the feats/classes are either bugged (or the descriptions are mistranslated), the writing can be very verbose in that way translated Russian usually is, and there's many absolutely useless skills/feats (stealth is completely useless)? Is it because of build autism?
>>544072321Source?
>>544072683It's build autism. /crpgg/ has shifted over time away from "choices and consequences" in questing to "character building is most important." It reflects the overall change in what the crpg community considers important, or maybe it's a backlash to BG3.
>>544072683>Why do most people on hereThe voices in your head are not "most people"
Ogryn romance in DH be like>me no smart, but me know what heart feel
>>544072684The game? If you don't go to Alushinyrra you'd just be sitting in Drezen while Baphy and Hepatitis keep making their meth'd up demons.
>>544073393Thats like molesting a child
>>544069781>talking to Areelu in Nocticula's throne room>suddenly her theme kicks in and the camera pans to the throne where she was sitting all alongAbsolute cinema
Where is my Areelu romance?
>>544072683It's less that people here think that wotr is the best crpg ever made and more that we have a couple spergs who lose their fucking minds about anything else.
>>544072683No one sane cares that there are bugs with some of the 50 or so classes. I'm also not sure you've played the game if you think that stealth is useless.
>>544073489why do we not think this with vyatt
>>544071857You’re a fucking retard. If you’re playing as a demon with anger issues it is unbelievable that you would just accept the queen taking your power away and shooing you off into the abyss. Genuinely you should kill yourself for defending something so retarded.
>>544074420Vyatt's a sexy woman
>>544074931Anon I think it's just that you have anger issues.
>>544074931See I don't believe you actually believe any of this (besides telling me to kms of course.) It's too ridiculous. You'd still be going in the hole, why do you even care that she's trying to puff herself up over it?
>>544074931What are you going to do with Hand of the Inheritor being there, ready to defend her should you decide to chimp out? At that point you're not strong enough to beat him.
>>544074931Lawtists in shambles over DEMONCHADS asserting their dominance yet again
>>544074240Some people get angry because they feel like they're getting lied too, but I like the bugs/exploits. The game is an unreliable narrator, and it's up to you to piece together where it's being truthful or where it's trying to deceive you. It is very on brand for an Slavik tabletop roleplay, where the players and DM are competing against one another. The DM is actively trying to kill the party and may even "fudge" the rules to do it, and it's up to the players to rule lawyer or understand the rules better to stop him.
>>544075513>It is very on brand for an Slavik tabletop roleplay, where the players and DM are competing against one another. The DM is actively trying to kill the party and may even "fudge" the rules to do it, and it's up to the players to rule lawyer or understand the rules better to stop him.nta but this is actually what I hate most about owlcat and why I "homebrew" (read: cheat) their bullshit away with toybox. I suppose I could have guess it was a slavic thing.
>>544074931>Genuinely you should kill yourself for defending something so retardedThats all Galfreyfags
>>544072683>very verbose in that way translated Russian usually isI've noticed this too. Something about that language causes this
If im playing as a chaotic demon why would i care if killing the queen for insulting me is irrational? You guys are too stupid to reason with. If I am roleplaying as a chaotic demon there is ZERO reason I would accept the queen spitting in my face like that. I understand you guys are sensitive and quick to defend ur little owlcat games, but that situation is immersion-ruining and you should be able to understand that.
>>544075187Vyatt acts more like an autist preoccupied with technical details. Her portrait doesn't match her personality at all
this is just the bait guy fyi. is he the only always posting those galfrey spergouts? I guess so. kind of a weird thread compared to his other bait desu.
Can’t even criticise a game during a playthrough without some fanboy thinking you’re his crpgg boogeyman
I hate Galfrey and Yrliet, Tristian is fine.
>>544076119Yeah but as a player you know you're gonna end up in the hole anyway so why roleplay as if you're unaware of that? Bad roleplay imo
>>544076451Tristian easily does the most damage but he also gouges his lying eyes out to prove he's done with it and that's metal as fuck so he gets full forgiveness.
Galfrey? Offers sex.Yrliet? No sex.
I hate Galfrey and Tristian, Yrliet is fine.
>>544076630>it’s bad roleplay to play according to your alignment and mythic pathAre you baiting or actually that stupid?
>>544071869I played the demo, it was short but I liked what I played. It's based on 1st Edition DnD, I think, never played that but class names indicates that with elves, dwarves and halflings being classes, wizard being called 'magic-user'. The devs have also written that the game is "inspired by classic D&D of the 80's" , and if you open the map in game it looks exactly like one of those old dnd dungeon maps.I think the game would look better if it were in color though.
>>544076070It's cultural.
>>544076630>bad roleplaying is when you don't metagame
>meet galfrey at the chapter 1 party>I don't like you! Die!
>544076943>544077051You see these posts? Completely disingenuous. It's bizarre.
I like that aeon gets to shit on Galfrey constantly
>>5440771518 Int moment
>>544075513>actually, the game is buggy and lying to you on purpose and that's a good thingMental illness
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>old woman that took a potion? aiieeee not balanced!>man that took a potion? everything's fine here!what did owlcat mean by this
The new RT update has made ship combat so aids. 10K reputation for the project on Dargonus is gay as fuck.
I like Galfrey Tristian and Yrliet
>>5440772458 is a bit high for someone like that
>>544077276Here's a quick example. You know how the game tells you how you can't take two draconic bloodlines as a sorceror. It's lying. If you take seeker, you can pick another if you dip seeker. Then there's the ur example where cranestance works with two-handers, despite the description saying it requires a free-hand. It's one of the reasons everyone and their mom monkdips.
The kroot will be the next betrayer and retarded waifufags will also defend her
>>544077798based enjoyerI wish they gave me any reason at all to forgive Yrliet desu. I don't like putting people to the sword but if they don't have reason or penance for their shenanigans I can't just abide by it.
Letting meta-gamers and optimizers play crpgs was a mistake
>>544077971You have mental illness or are retarded. WotR is very clear what is and is not allowed. I know the rules like the back of my hand they are that simple and I failed out of college.
>>544077987>people defend tristian>people defend wenduag>people defend yrlietyou don't say
>>544077971Why would your game being bugged and shitty and unpolished ever be a source of pride? Were you dropped on the head as a baby?
>>544078231They are defending horrible roleplay options through a meta-gaming frame. Of course they are a retard.
Galfrey doesn't betray you. You had to go into the abyss either way.Meanwhile you did not need to get captured by drukhari, that was completely Yrliet's fault for not telling you anything.Galfrey has a happy ending marriage route where you live happily ever after.Meanwhile Yrliet doesn't stay with you, and never wants to even touch you.Galfrey shows real human emotion and temporary character flaw because she's having an internal crisis over doing this for 100 years and accomplishing nothing, while you make strides in like a week. It's a realistic and understandable character flaw which increases her characterization, and she quicklty gets over it and falls in love with you.Meanwhile, Yrliet is just racist and calls you and your crew monkies even if you repeatedly save her life and save the lives of her people. She's not relatable because she's simply stubborn about this.Galfrey is so much better and it's not even close. You people are insane.
>>544078193You mean Galfrey>>544078537Shut up mintharatranny
>>544078635does seranafag even play pathfinder? unironically seems too high IQ for him.
>>544078717Yes, if it has waifus he's there. You can tell its him because he writes in paragraphs and tries to act like a lore master. He also is the one who keeps simping for Galfrey.
>>544078717yeah he played that generic angelic oracleif you like rpgs you're basically stuck with his novellas and blogposts all over the fucking site
>>544078991That would explain why the pro-Galfrey poster is so defensive and retarded
>>544078537Yrliet fans have been known to slander other waifus because theirs is so shit. The hate for Galfrey is not organic
>>544078991No I'm the one who started with the Nenio pic but that's interesting. Let's just take a moment to say a small thank you to the Lord that he prefers to shit up those other generals more often.
>>544078537Keep speaking the truth, Galfreyfag
>>544078537Just like in /bgg/, I love that you can state one or more facts about the game and some shitposter always has a meltie about it. There's nothing to argue about here because everything in your post is literally a fact, so they just attack you and complain that you're posting at all. It's hilarious.
there's his samefagging like clockwork too
don't start posting dead waifus because you're butthurt here too
>>544079764Me when I defend myself
>>544079764The same retard who complained about him posting is going to say you're him responding to himself. It's the same old pattern. I'm glad there are at least a few people who talk seriously so this place is not completely shitposting
>I'd never send you to hell like that dumb old queen, big bro >And I'd never meet up with drow without telling you>I always tell you my plans because you're my bro
Froggy was right when he shat on Yrliet. Unironically.He might hvae been shitposting with the "Eldar bulls" but everything else was spot on.
Galfrey taking my power away isn’t the problem, the problem is that I have to accept it like a meek bitch. Stop calling everyone disingenuous despite being the most disingenuous faggot to ever post. And stop samefagging you pathetic little baby.
>>544080414okay froggy, don't remember to leave a good review on the Failhard
>>544080170lol
I wanna kill every demon. Demon Slayer ranger or cavalier
>>544080414Yrliiets awful but why does Froggy hate her. He likes Nenio and Veilguard, he likes bad things.
>>544075513>It is very on brand for an Slavik tabletop roleplayMaybe your DM and/or players are just shit. That's not at all how our games go
>>544080825He's brown and takes personal offense at the term monkey
I cast Weird on this general, what do you see before death?
>>544081391idk I never read the flavor text of weird
>>544080414Yeah.His non-shitpost points were facts:>Doesn't treat you like an equal despite saying she would in final scene>She is fundamentally disgusted by you physically and won't even accept a hug of comfort in Commorragh THE PLACE WHERE SHE GOT YOU AND WHERE YOU WERE TORTURED WORSE THAN HER>After you forgive her she promises to never betray you again, but her first instinct on Quetza is to turn her gun on you if you tell the Eldar you are Theodora's heir and want to make things right. If you talk her into siding with you this fucks the romance>She doesn't let you date anyone and locks you into a sexless relationship that is defacto not a romance>Her sacrificing soul stone for you was not intentional she has no idea it would break when she did it>She has 0 trust and repsect, she doesn't talk to you about crudarach shard nor marz info nor achillies betrayal before it's too late depsite you helping her>You are the only person that was trully nice to her, even more so than her oen people, she still won't even hug you, yet is willing to hook up eith Marz in corsair ending the Drukhari who slaughtered her people alongside his sister and antagonized her>She spends most of her time away looking for spirit stones while your life passes, not only are you in a sexless relationship YOU DON'T EVEN GET TO SEE YOUR "LOVER" FOR MOST OF YOUR LIFE
a crpg built around leleouch's geass would be neat I think
Can you imagine being a fan of a namefag
a crpg is a good game with proper role playing elements and usually an in depth mechanical system.a jrpg is trash.simple as.
>>544078193>no one defends linzi
>>544081776>tranime
>>544080754Please respond
>>544081506>sexless>sexlessit always comes down to thisthe irony is that you pretend to want "romance" but can only view women through the lens of "does she give me sex?"
>>544082303anime website
>>544080404Sexoo
>>544078537Don't forget that Galfrey actually apologizes while Yrliet has to be told to and nobody not even her believes it or accepts it. Yrliet fags always shitposting like they did today when anyone points out her flaws
>>544082294
what do you call a relationship where you insist the other person not have romantic partners but yourself are just treating them as a good friend (won't even shake their hand)?
>>544082652Kill yourself Yrlitranny, there were a bunch of points in there detailing problems other than the fact it's sexlessShove your gay desperate attempt at a starwman up your dilated troonhole
>>544081391Mishulin
>>544083294>t-there are o-other p-problems t-too>but really I hate whores who won't put outreal subtleyou probably romance Cassia then ditch her like she's used tissues the moment her body becomes too deformed for her to fulfill her woman duties to your RT
Yrliet make me crash my car
>>544083164It's called being a better man.
>start a new playthrough for 1.5 patch>play noble-officer>coop buddy plays arbitrator-warrior>meaning we both chose some of the only things not affected by the patch
>>544082652NTA, but a big part of Frog's contention wasn't just that she didn't put out. He said it's cuckshit because it's just you, he said that if she said "I am not interested in your base passions or anyone else's" it would be fine. If she was actually asexual
>>544083821stop repeating your eceleb's argument, I'm not arguing with him
>>544083164Exclusive platonic
>>544083593Again shove your gay desperate attempt at a starwman up your dilated flesheound. 6 of the 8 points didn't even mention sex. And the problem isn't just the sex it's the context. As explained by >>544083821
Froggy is shitposting because he likes the attention
>>544082854She apologises to you personally of her own initiative in her romance path right after the scene with Jimmy and Argenta. She doesn't care what they think of her but she cares what you think. She even asks you >what do you think of me now
>>544083916The argument was about Froggy's points dumbass. You can't adress anything so you just shift the topic to try to "come out on top"
>>544081506>yet is willing to hook up eith Marz in corsair endingLiteraly insane cuckcanonThis isn't stated anywhereIf you're prepared to read between the lines to that extent you might as well imagine a happy life for you and her where you hold hands while she bakes space cookies
I love imoen as a friend
>>544084037>6 of the 8 points didn't even mention sex. this isn't your school assignmentyou can pad your post with 98 non sex-related things and it still all comes down to you being buttblasted Yrliet won't put out
>>544083781
>>544066147jrpgs aren't rpgs
obsessed
I love imoen as a sister
>>544084195okay I still don't care about your eceleb thoughwhat did Horsey and Beary say about it, that's the important thing
>>544083294And yet if she let you fuck her you'd forgive absolutely all of thatAnd if Cassia didn't let you fuck her you'd be screeching about how horrible and selfish she is, how she got dozens of your crewmen killed with her outbursts
>>544084083Wasting your time trying to point out what happens in the game to speed readers and people who haven’t even played the game
>>544081506And she still has a legion of simps.... if Yrliet actually gave sex her army would be unstoppable.
>>544084314No one is buying your strawmaning subhuman Yrlitroon.>>544084253Nope. Owlcat confirmed there are companions that do hook up in endings and have romance independent of the player in their Q&A. This has been stated over and over. Yrliet and Marz are obviously what they were refering to. It said they grew close and bonded over the shared trauma of what they went through. The only other candidates are Jae and Idira if you squint hard.
You're all fighting for second place anyway.
>>544084083Yeah, if you romance her. I shouldn't have to do that to get the best ending. This is a role playing game, why should some content by artificially unavailable? Weird design choice.
Only Charname can make Imoen happy
>>544084786garrick could
>>544084486I wouldn't you dumb faggot she is a terrible character even if she did put out at the end of her dogshit romance. It would still be shit if you kept everything the sane but added sex at the end. That only solves the issues of the double standard and locking you into ehat is realistically a friendship. The pile of bullshit remains
>>544084651you seemed pretty invested in my "strawman" to the point that you had to mention your incel whining wasn't just about the sexless relationship with Yrliet lol
>>544084651You mean thisThat doesn't mean anythingMy wife has strong relationships with all her ex-partners, that doesn't mean they're hooking up
>>544084707Are you the retard that fucked up the space elf stuff and then got mad about how you can’t get the good ending without romancing her even though that’s not true?
>>544084861God imagine the seethe if Imoen actually hooked up with someone besides charname ingame. It would be an apocalypse of cuckposting.
>>544084907>you had to mention your incel whining wasn't just about the sexless relationship with Yrliet lolBecause you were saying it was lmaoI was responding to your claim you retarded trannyDamn Yrlitards are next level retardedThis is your last (You) from me>>544084952It's obvious what it meant but keep coping
>jae and idira of you squintI don't care about the yrleit squable we have this every other thread but I'm surpised how much people miss vigdis having a (past) thing with idira that you can endup rekindling
I have a question do the regular space elves regularly befriend deldars? I know they are prideful and their race is dying off blah blah, but RT made it clear deldar are happy to torture elves just like they do with the monkees.
>>544085178keep crying about how Yrliet won't put out, won't be the last time I'm sure
>My wife has strong relationships with all her ex-partners, that doesn't mean they're hooking up
>>544085123imoen can't hookup with charname though. theres no romantic connotations to their relationship and most people that waifu her only care that she's charnames half sister, if they wheren't blood related nobody would care about her
I don't get this "Yrliet and Marazhai" meme. She clearly hates him. Women never sleep with men they claim to hate.
>>544085237I misread that as squirt. Idira isn't a "romance" option and is generally disliked here so they don't care.
Yrliet fags are the most insufferable waifufags in the history of this general. Camtards and Aruetards don't even come close.Whenever someone points out the glaring flaws about Yrliet independent of sex or the problems of why her romance isn't really a romance they just spam the most low IQ cope and disingenuous faggotry imaginable.Even if she had 100 sex scenes Yrliet would still be a shit character. And a shit representation of Craftworld Eldar.
>>544085569>generally disliked hereI liked her
>>544085315imagine getting killed for saving the life of the woman who cucked you while you were away and made you raise the resulting kid
>>544085621>Even if she had 100 sex scenes Yrliet would still be a shit character.and yet you had to mention she's sexless twiceI wonder whywhy mention something that doesn't matter if the rest speaks for itselfmaybe because you only care about sex
>>544085281As far as the wargame goes their armies can work together but they never make friends. Deldar are just too dangerous, and besides Leldar disapprove most strongly of the Deldar way of lifeYrliet's parents, had they not been blown up, would NOT be happy about her spending so much time with an evil deldar. They'd be more accepting of the mon-keigh because at least they could see that as a harmless short-term thing.
>>544084952>My wife has strong relationships with all her ex-partnersDoes she visit them often?
>>544084582It baffles me how she has simps. She is just a cunt. She is ugly too. Is being an elf really all it takes?
>>544085779Maybe. I don't know. We actually respect each other's privacy. You should try it some time.
>>544085569She's generally disliked everywhere, look at the official owlcat companion stats.
>>544085761Are you trolling or genuinely retarded/schizophrenic?
So uh if I want to romance Yrilet should I kill Marazhai asap or can I recruit him?
>>544085912You have it backwards. She has simps BECAUSE she's a cunt, but she intersperses that with little crumbs of attention that hint at the possibility of affection, which never arrives. Her being an elf is completely besides the point.It's all about the sunk cost fallacy. Her simps have expended so much emotional labor on her that they have to believe that it's worthwhile.
>>544085778lol why is she like this
>>544086058>>She doesn't let you date anyone and locks you into a sexless relationship that is defacto not a romance>>She spends most of her time away looking for spirit stones while your life passes, not only are you in a sexless relationshipand some other irrelevant stuff to make it look like you're not just mad about the sexless part lolit's a strawman if you point out the part that sticks out!!!
>>544086098Marazhai being around has no effect at all on Yrliet's romance. He doesn't actually compete for her attention or anything. So recruit him if you want. He has a couple of moderately interesting quests and his voice acting is pretty good. If you get tired of him you can let Heinrix dissect him.
>>544085912>an elf really all it takes?Yes. There's a subsection of 40slooperrs who are obsessed with the forbidden female elf x human male pairing. Yrllet is their only shot since they do not play the tabletop and can't write their own romance.
>>544086224She's easily influenced. So she tends to tag along with whichever man is closest to her.
>>544086098Why would you want to do that.
If you just make fun of some retard sperging about yrliet you can trigger a whole ass meltdown about le yrlietards
>40k loreAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH>40k fans think they are humanAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>544086224She's doing it to get back at her culture in general, and her father in particular. >runs away to "find herself">falls in with a mon-keigh and lets him penetrate her soul>actually sleeps with a deldar (maybe), running the risk of getting pregnant which is a huge problem without a spirit stone and infinity circuit for the babyAll of this is just childish rebellion
If you mention the amphibian you can summon a whole batch of amphibian fans who suspiciously have memorized each of his points
>>544086226A)That wasn't meB)The rest of that post was adressing major character issues of which it could have listed many more. Such as the examples of retarded railroading in her plot or her contradictory behavior. You are just coping and try to imagine that everyone that criticizes your waifu is complaining about sex instead of interacting with ehat they are actually saying. And yes, sex is part of the problem when it comes to the framing of the romantic relationship, but the least of her problems as a character.
>>544086739Trve!!!
If YxM isn't a thing, how do you explain my headcanon?Checkmate Yrlietards
>>544086847A) that's not relevant, nobody cares that anon#457 is not anon#568 but you wouldn't have called me a schizo if you read the entire conversation so you're welcomeB) if that's the least of her problems as a character why does not-you mention it twice lol
>>544086847>sex is part of the problemMon-keigh are so predictable
Yrliet pissed in my pants.
I'm going to mention something that doesn't matter twicebut I made 6 out of 8 points too!! stop strawmanning me!!!
should let me crush it
Literal any time I check in which is only about once or twice a month - this gen is talking about 40k slopit is so over
>>544087349Sorry but the elftards bring up their waifu every thread
>>544087349but what about that one time that eceleb was right about everything and I hate Yrliet because she won't reward me with sex
See
>>544087349Nobody even talks about the game anymore. It’s just the same two schizos jerking each other off over how much they hate space elves
It's a laspistol that adds Melting effect when you hit someone. It also gives +5 persuasion.Pay to win!!!!
Owlcuck fans defend dolls that humiliate them relentlessly. Why is that?
I wanna smooch her.
>>544087082He mentioned other things, but that's what you try to devolve the entire conversation to, ignoring any points and trying to force the notion that Yrliet's critics would forgive her is she had sex with the Rogue Trader. And I didn't say it isn't a problem said it is one of the many problems.Why do you ignore everything said that isn't about Yrliet's denial of intimacy and fixate on that, trying to present the other people's positions as if that was the main contention? Could you answer any of the other objections put forth by anyone, not just him or me ITT but in general about why Yrliet fails as a character and Crafteorld Eldar?
>>544083781How does co-op work here? Does your buddy watch you smooch dollies?
>>544087998>And I didn't say it isn't a problemand I didn't say you said it wasn't a problem I said that you said it was the least of her problems which is exactly what you saidwhy you strawmanning me bro? who does your anon friend mention something that is the least of her problems twice?
>>544085567They get several joint endings. They become clowns together and hobos together. She doesn't really hate him. He's the only one who doesn't treat her with disdain
>>544088023Yeah one of you plays the RT and gets to smooch Jostica etc. The other guys have to watch this, and they play mercenaries in combat.
>>544087884They think the dolls love them
>>544088150Ok you are either shitposting or retarded. Not gonna bother wasting my time. Yrliet simps are trash just like the character.
>>544085567But bro if you break her spirit and want nothing to do with her they hang out
>>544085430People love Imoen even though she doesn't smooch you without modding.Imagine how incredibly possessive players would be if she hooked up with Haer'dalis for eg.
>>544088231He makes fun of her constantly, but I guess she likes it
>>544088294my friend just mentioned something that doesn't matter twice but there were other points too so just don't focus on the things that he mentioned twice that don't matter even though you might wonder what was the point of mentioning the things that don't matter twice if the real issues with Yrliet are elsewhere you're a strawmanning faggot who is probably an Yrliet simp!!!
>>544088236Nice. The actual cuck simulator
>>544088467Making fun and bullying isn't the same as disdain
>>544088430Nobody would’ve cared about this shit because the mentally ill incels itt weren’t even born yet
In my ending Yrliet thinks humans are just great.
>>544088540When you thought playing an owlcuck game couldn’t get any worse
>>544081506>the Drukhari who slaughtered her people alongside his sisterHe didn't thoughHe had nothing to do with the attack on Crudarach and he wasn't the one tormenting the farseers. That was all Tervantias and YremeryssAt least that what she can pretend to herself to try to rationalize her uncontrollable attraction towards Marazhai
>>544088730>the mortalswhat
>>544088960Ebin turdliet writers got their elves confused again
>>544088481Maybe he accidentally typed it twice. That happens to me sometimes.
Blackadder the CRPG
Yrliet is a terrible character and since you're asking for examples, how about this?How about part of her first quest, which is a great example of the problem with her writing in general. You come upon Eldar from Crudarach in a fleeing ship, and you can either leave them to die, blast them, or take them aboard your ship (assuming you pass the skill checks necessary to do so). Let's say you take the latter option, what happens after this is that the Eldar are bumrushed by lower deckers and killed anyway, which highlights the entire problem with how this is written.The writer has decided that Yrliet needs to be traumatized and sad about both the fate of her people and the cruel, uncaring mon'keigh that victimize them, and they will get that result no matter what, but they don't do so organically, they don't reach this desired conclusion in a way that makes sense. Let's go over all the problems with this contrived scenario: The Eldar would almost certainly never take this deal to begin with, it is nonsensical and insane for them to go on a ship where best case scenario they will be eaten by Slaanesh on the journey through the warp. But let's say the RT is just THAT good at persuasion, or the Eldar are THAT desperate. Is the RT a fucking retard? Why does he not put security in place or simply make sure nobody knows they're on his ship to begin with? And third, how the FUCK are Craftworld Eldar getting bumrushed and killed by a bunch of lower decker scum when they would EASILY overpower thousands of them?All of these problems are ignored and they just die anyway because the writer has decided that it is going to happen no matter what, and so it does. Very hamhanded, very inorganic, very BAD writing. And this is typical of Yrliets content in general.
>>544088960It means humans, but it's weird because she never refers to them that way elsewhere and it's not like she's immortal either. I think the ending slide guy got mixed up. Ulfar refers to normal humans as mortals sometimes.
>>544089048I too make sure that 2/8, my math isn't so great but I think that's 25%, I make sure that 25% of my points is incidentally not relevant and if you decide to focus on that then you're strawmanning me lol
>>544089171>Yrliet is a badly written character!>For example *paragraph about characters who are not Yrliet*>In conclusion, I hate Yrliet!
>>544089171>this contrived scenario that's needed to establish why Yrliet hates monkeighs means she's badly writtenwhat?
>>544089171Too much waffle
Underrail>wotr. Only waifu negros disagree.
>>544089171I am still wondering why her character is such a mess. Why did she need 3 different writers? Is CE lore hard for newbies to understand?
>>544089578You have to have a soul to appreciate Underrail. Most crpgg posters are soulless league of legends kiddies who only like rpgs for waifus
>>544089740Wasn't she some retard's first job or something?
Kibble's voice acting actively makes the character worse.
>>544090079She has 3 writers apparently, its why shes all over the place. Plus how bugged her dialogue is.
>>544088730Posting modded shit doesn't disprove the central thesis. In unmodified base game, she leaves you no matter what and becomes a corsair. Yrlicucks are truly pathetic.
>>544090190>every time kebab opens her mouth
>>544089171TRUE i literally helped yrliet every single time in act 2 and it doesn't fucking matter, she'll treat you the same as a RT thats killed every eldar at every opportunity because she just accidentally happens to wander into the room with a trophy from her craft world that theodora happened to have just to fuck you over specifically for trying to be friendly
Deldar would be more interesting if they had a neutral attitude towards humans.The whole "contemptible meat! you are scum" thing makes no sense. That's not how hunters are towards their prey, nor cattle ranchers towards livestock.Have them be pleasant and even caring, but only so as to improve the quality of the pain essence when the human is slaughtered. Deldar = kind but will torture you to death for sustenanceLeldar = rude and arrogant but won't actually eat you
>>544090580>kindbeing a dick and calling you scum actively feeds them. killing and rape is good for keeping slaneesh at bay sure but they also just love to be sadistic jerks for the love of the game, they feed off of suffering. they wouldn't coddle you when they could just murder rape you and move onto the next planet full of humans just waiting to be murder raped
>>544089197>2/8, my math isn't so great but I think that's 25%Hang on let me get my slide ruleYeah could be 25%, or maybe 24.8. Hard to tell with the markings.
>>544090580Have you ever seen factory farming
so anyone playing a role?
>>544090934Well I don't think the workers go around stomping on chickens for fun. They have a job to do.I guess that's what I'm getting at. Deldar don't come across like they're capable of organizing or working on a goal. It's always>your pain is delectableyeah ok but there's a time and a place, you can't always be snacking.
>>544090568Oh sure "Theodora". Very believable, elantachWhenever something bad happens, it's always "Theodora's" fault, whomever she is.
My character is really nice so she has high Fellowship. She's an officer and I like to imagine her abilities take the form of cheery and enthusiastic encouragement to make her friends fight harder :)She's also a sanctic biomancer psyker because she loves the Emperor and also makes sure her allies are always in tip top shape :)I don't know who she's going to romance yet but she's very kind and patient and loving so we'll see who her heart finds.I look forward to seeing all the new things they added in patch 5!
Yrliet just has low T-levelsEasily fixed
>>544091005I’m playing bloodlines 2 sorry
>>544091485Nobody cares namefag
Someone post the Yrliet blowjob mod dialogue.
>>544091485based crpg player in a sea of shitposting
>>544091801me defending myself
>>544090760>and calling you scum actively feeds themAre they 12 year olds?
Why are so many of you obsessed with dolly romance and sex?Literally just go get a girlfriend. CRPGs are for adventure primarily.
>>544091780This is canon (per GW, everything is canon)
>>544092356Elves feel emotions more strongly than humans. So when they call you a "stupid monkey" it might seem weak to a human, but it's an epic burn to an elf.
>>544092634Real women are cringe
>>544093074And owlcat women are better?
>>544091485>My character is really nice>cheery and enthusiastic encouragement to make her friends fight harder>loves the Emperor and also makes sure her allies are always in tip top shape>she's very kind and patient and loving Sounds like Argenta
DH alpha coming out on Dec 16https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvhmC4eHiCQ
>If Lord Commander marries Arueshalae or Galfrey, they move into a cabin in the wilderness.Why did they move away from Drezen/Kenabres? What if your character was a city dude? What happened to all the accumulated riches?As an aside, Paizo's vision of Kenabres and Drezen was a lot more impressive than Owlcat's. Owlcat's version looks much more like realistic medieval cities, while Paizo's were straight up fantasy cities with monumental architecture.
>>544093184True, they're not. That's why I'm not going for owlcat women
>>544093369Owlcat Kenabres seems like a village
Just a reminder that Kingmaker had a much better art direction than Wrath.
>>544093342Cool. I'll pirate it and let you know how it goes
>>544093342I've never played their games in alpha stage. How barebones is it? Can you make your own character or is it a preset?
Old Abby got the cleave triple kill
>>544069505link?
what happened to the co-op buddy there pal
Which CRPGs besides NVN and BG3 have the a good number of mods?bonus points if the mods contain romance
>>544092898Funnily enough the thing I find the most jarring, besides the absolutely dogshit writing, is the use of abbreviations like "wouldn't". I don't think Yrliet uses those in real dialogue.
>>544093369>Owlcat's version looks much more like realistic medieval cities, while Paizo's were straight up fantasy cities with monumental architecture.Kenabres and Drezen were generic and mediocre. They played it too safe.
>>544093850RT alpha was pretty much the same as release, except it was only acts 1 and 2 and Act 3 as far as finding Yrliet on the streets of cumrag. So it should be pretty complete.
>>544054648That time of the month eh
>>544094462Cool I'm excited
>>544094462Wasn't that Beta? IIRC alpha was act 2 with act 1 and prologue skipped.
>>544095078>prologue skipped.No not the Kunrad plot twist!
>>544090361It's not a mod you retard
>>544095078nah you could make it barely into cumrag in alpha>prologue skippedthere was a long and vague book section
>>544095078I might be getting mixed up then. There were definitely proper build options, right? In any case the alpha was substantial.
40gay
>>544095514Act 1 was skipped though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFtBBWC6oiI he starts in Act 2. And finishes before Cumrag
The joke that anon made, is that "40k" would be pronounced "forty-kay" which rhymes with "forty-gay".
>>544095648Yeah, you could get quite a few hours out of alpha. It was the entirety of act 2 which is the longest act in the game
>>544095834lol!
>>544095771Yeah that's what that book says bro.
I want it now......
Saved my officers :)My ship will be run through the power of friendship :)
>>544096783
>>544094339>picI like the lighting on this but it looks too clean compared to the original.
>>544096910Your posts need an update.
>>544097990he knows what it means
>>544097990So is the dog the male or the female
debuffs on single strong enemies is...le good
>>544099425you are going to be ten times more unbearable (get it) when DH comes out
>>544054243>TQMass Effect Andromeda. So no. Its fun to zip around and fight aliens I guess, but gameplay is not why I enjoy Mass Effect.
I'm making a demonslayer ranger in wrath, I'm probably going str based, but is TWF still viable that way? I know that the ranger can bypass the TWF feat requirements.
Do you want more or less xeno party members?
Why did he have Linzi mining tombs she has a negative Athletics score is he fucking retarded
>>5441014231-2 max seems fine.
>>544101423I want chaos-twisted party members instead.
>>544101423are they cute/fuggable or cool/fun to hang out with?zero interest in another yrliet
>>544101965You're just going to get teased or Frieren'd.
TACTICAL ADVENTURES I CALL UPON YOU WITH ALL MY POWER ANNOUNCE THE EA NOW!!!
>>544101597i'd force her to work in the mines too after the printing press shit
Nenio is carrying hard with Phantasmal Killer, praise the fluff!
So are the leaks about owlcats original IP's system being a mix of 5e and 3.5 true?
So are the origins in dark heresy going to use the same talents as in rogue trader or new ones?
>>544102153What's the power level of psykers in 40k? Are the Eldar and DEldar on top or do sorcery focused factions like the Thousand Sons and Blood Ravens surpass them
>>544104000Its like Emperor > Most powerful Eldars > Magnus the red > Grey Knights.However there is a Eldar(from their peak era) in Trazyns collection, they probably rival the Emperor.
>>544104000Psy ratings can vary wildly. Probably someone who plays the tabletop wargame can give you an accurate answer but even then it probably will be incomplete since there's a lot of random powerful sorcerers in Tzeentch-held planets who are non-combatants.
>>544104867how could he get captured by trazyn if he's so strong
>>544103404
CRPGs for this feelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjoMQ9z_fp8
>>544105318Trazyn can manipulate time & Necrons have tech to nullify the warp. But its just what a guy wrote anyway.
Anyone else picked up mannerisms from Owlcat characters? I started describing people and situations with color analogies like Cassia it's fun
>>544106745posted the wrong mix bruvhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNqGyDmIfY4regarding your question, don't think there is one.The doom-quick disco-like shadowrunny hasn't yet been invented.
>>544107748I've started talking to myself like Idira
>>544107748>Everything is clear to me now.>I don't like you! Die!
>>544107748I gouged out my eyes so I could be just like my favourite wotr character
>>544107880Banquet for Fools released in 2026 right? Pretty close to being a Jupiter-like, in a way?
>>544105512>DC 41Nigga, what art thou doing?
How exactly do "shadowy shape" instakill demon lords?
Everything is clear to me now.
>>544108986Hmm that's weird
>>544108986How you get DC so high
Was Camellia just killing hookers or was she having sex? I don’t understand what they are implying
>>544110054killing hookersbut shipfags obsessed with NTR will say she was fucking them
She fucked their dead bodies
>>544054461>>544054648can you really call it a favorite RPG series if you only played one game from it?inb4 pretending you actually played redemption
I am the bone of my sword
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBWGX1I8RMk>The adaptive "part" (3:14) of this song (which checks in when you enter melee range sometimes) really caught me by surprise when I first heard it.>It was a really nice touch. More games ought to do that.>It also plays when one of your characters is badly hurt or when there's only 1 enemy left. I'm sure there's even more things that trigger it.Other CRPGs with dynamic music? Besides Monkey Island?
>>544110054Killing. She only likes being fucked by men
>>544110054bothkilling gets her horny, and there was a brothel full of incubi right there in the same building
>>544110717>Monkey IslandManiac Mansion CRPG when
Imoen is nowhere near as cute as people make out.
>>544110717I sometimes wonder if there's a Lantern King/Nyrissa curse on CRPG studios. Pushing them to fail or to do shit like Flopguard, Avoid, The Expense, whatever the FPS Harebrained is doing in the 10 years since masterpiece HK
Fate Stay/Night is a crpg
>>544111457InXile to Clockwork FPS thinger instead of Wasteland 4...Literally stinks like Feyshit interference, "haha wouldn't it be funny if you just made absolute shit and I'll convince you it's the right way to go"
>>544111760Don't forget destruction and splintering of ZA/UMDid their mobile version of DE release? What a fucking joke.
>>544109812This is Froggy's old build for a demon illusionist. He has a breakdown for an effective DC 100 for Weird. Keep in mind this is before the Expanded Arsenal nerf, the whole stacking Spell Foci feats doesn't work anymore, but lots of the bonuses still work so you can reach similar DCs.https://pastebin.com/4tSf7xnB
imagine being a dick-rider for some big-numbies autist on a niche corner of the kenyan canning webring bbs
>>544112137NTA, I'm not saying that build min/maxing should not be rewarded, but I feel like in WotR its needed, which is unsatisfying, even if its not needed to this degree.
>>544111103
>>544112616It's not needed at all. Play on Normal/Core/Hard. Adjust to what makes the game fun for you.
imagine cucking yourself out of a big part of the fun of a game like WotR by letting someone else make your """build""" for you, probably spoilering yourself about the story along the wayAbsolutely retarded
>>544112616It depends entirely on difficulty. On Core and below you can get away with pretty much anything. Hard does forgive a few "mistakes", but you need to compensate with strong builds. Even Unfair gets trivial after a certain point and you don't need to minmax to that degree, just look at Werglia's builds, he make tons of bad decisions and frankly his builds would struggle even on Core difficulty, but he still beats the game on Unfair thanks to things like juggling party members with Last Stand. Froggy's autistic minmaxed builds exists just because of his extremely high standards for "beating the game", which means 1 rounding every boss on Unfair abusing things like Touch of Law to force enemies to roll an 11 and thus getting his spells to land.
Froggy also couldn't handle the challenge of actual tactical games like playing me on OGS or BBOThere's really no actual intelligence involved in playing on Unfair, it's nothing to feel proud about, it's just autism.
>>544112616Froggy just had the autism and tunnels visions on one specific build being ‘viable’ He’d call a build with 4 rerolls and a minuscule chance of ever failing a dc roll shit because they don’t technically reach his high numbers autism
>>544113209I think the reason I find it unsatisfying is because a lot of these things feel hidden and buried. This isn't just a problem with Pathfinder's bloat, its worse in RT where there's no easy way to see what things are pre-reqs for later things or how they synergize.And in WotR the mythic paths have stuff that aren't even in the books so you have to play the game over and over again to learn it all, but without actually enjoying the game organically.>>544112868I just feel like Core difficulty is the "real" one and anything less feels off somehow. Like if I reduce under Core I may as well just flip it right down to story mode or use toybox to autowin.
Not CRPGs
>>544113723>I just feel like Core difficulty is the "real" one and anything less feels off somehowThat's a reasonable first impression, but it just simply isn't how they did things.You should think of Core as: "I already understand the PF mechanics and also I understand Owlcat's version of them"It is what it is. New players should start on Normal. Or Core, it's fine, because you can switch at any time, or even introduce custom settings.The real problem is every other game giving ass-pats to players for playing what should be "Normal" but calling it "AbYsSaL AnNhIlAtIoN" or something.The fact that WotR offers a very high ceiling is a good thing imo. But you need to orient yourself to the perspective.
>>544113723Most of those mechanics were figured out later and by the whole community, and frankly, they're unneeded on Core as I said, the devs are most likely not even aware of 90% of the kind of shit you can pull off in their games. Froggy's builds also rely on a lot of exploits that got patched out later. I remember having discussions with him about how stacking Spell Foci is obviously unintended and he'd go on these huge tirades about the fact that it is in the game, therefore it's an intended mechanic or some nonsense like that, as if Owlcat games were perfectly balanced and completely bug free.
>>544113125while i'm inclined to agree, it's not like build means anything outside of combat and one throwaway reactivity line in the PF games
Literally just play your role
God I want more Shadowrun
I miss KOTOR
More Jagged Alliance for me please
>>544113723I think even on hard you'll have a pretty comfortable time without minmaxing for most of the game if you're willing to actually sit there reading through the feats. A lot of people really over complicate pathfinder builds. I think the greater problem people run into is that they just want to make these minmaxed death ball combat builds instead of building a fully rounded out team. Literally just having one guy who can summon good can break a huge chunk of the encounters in the game and that's like three feats.
why are all the girls in the party perfect and all the guys pathetic
>Clearly what we have to do is make first-person flops- MBA retards who should never be allowed a voice in creative
>>544114607Summon what good? Usually I just use Camellia to animate some skeletons but they stop being effective even before midgame.
Hey wasn't it Warhammer day? Where's the new DH news?
>>544114827art imitates lifehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyJDHRpe8EY
>>544114905i don't think it was mbas in the case of current obsidian and choosing tcr for vtmb2
>>544101167Yeah. Your AC will be lower than a dex build, obviously, but you save a couple of feats and can take advantage of enlarge/legendary proportions so your dmg tends to be slightly higher. I had good fun with a str twf shield bash ranger when I played wrath.
>>544115086What do you think drove them to such terrible decisions?One can read between the lines with InXile and Obisidian both owned by Microsoft and both shifting to first person, but that might be a naive perspective, I don't know anything about vtmb history though
>>544115537Adding on to this, the interview I posted with Brian Fargo has him clearly very happy with being at Microsoft. And they let the studio finish Wasteland 3, which is interesting. Still, I'm not entirely convinced there aren't some heavy hands involved in pushing "accessible trends".But I also imagine the success of BG3 is a force of nature that's impossible to ignore for even the most myopic "never played a game in 20 years if ever" MBA types who do hold sway over creative decisions, unfortunately.
>>544114920They're just meat shields. Creeping doom is fucking ridiculous as always and you should get it and spam it if you can. The evil summons are the best regular summons but it doesn't really matter. The game also gives you a bunch of items everywhere to buff up your summons. There's a belt in act 3 that'll summon a shadow demon every you cast a level 6 spell and it stays strong for a while.Summons also get to take advantage of mark of justice if you have one.
>>544115019Release date for the Alpha Dec 16
>>544111482its a visual novel nasu himself says so.
>>544115086vtmb was notably not a first person action game.
Reminder froggy got filtered by the Aksha fight on cataclysm in solasta.
>>544054563Blood related or not blood related, she makes my dick hard and that's all that matters.
>>544115537Vtmb was going to be cancelled because the original studio didn't have anything other than a vertical slice demo after all the delays. TCR offering to take it over and make something out of their mess is probably the only reason the game came out at all.
slicin' up scuzzwads like a thanksgiving turkeyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfVe_zHqlFA
>>544054243>can't impregnate Imoen in the romance modAerie victory
Aerie x Blood
I installed an NPC portrait mod in wotr and it makes dialogue a lot more enjoyable. I genuinely think Owlcat adding more portraits for characters would be better than doing full VA.
>>544116954Keith "Blood" Hanson doesn't have time for that shit
>>544111457The lust for money naturally propels studios to chase after "the general audience" at the expense of their fans. This has worked exactly one time, for Bioware, and only because the Mass Effect games are fun action games. They also collapsed shortly afterwards because they literally signed a deal with the devil.
>>544117250>Lantern King laughing
>>544117250>They also collapsed shortly afterwards because they literally signed a deal with the devil.qrd?
>>544117957they joined a company ran by a ventrue
I think the move with Ikon Tower, against both Fuchi and the other guys, is to get that shadowrunner on our side and head up towards the tower entrance. I keep moving down, and I do think utilizing Shadow works, and that spirit to summon is tempting, but moving up gives us more cover when the reinforcements come in on the left and right.Still need to keep everyone close and use Shadow when possible to get them fighting each other, but moving down is just too open.Probably 4 TPKs or so now. The SR:HK bonus campaign has some tough shit.
>>544118473Fuckin corps. At least they're consistent.
>>544054243Recruited and romanced by GW
>>544119213How many times will you post this image, do you think?
>>544119313AI sloppers are scum and know no shamethis one's a porn addict too
>>544119213me on the left
>pisses in jug>yells at mom when she asks to bring some dirty dishes down>"me on the left" heh yeah, let's post it
Urine trouble now
what crpgs have anons hint at their fetish?
The drinks at this tavern taste like donkey piss.
crpgs are my fetish
Why can I be racist toward Yrliet but not Jocasta?
>>544120668The emperor of mankind said we are all one race, the human race.
>>544120730Emperor is a T*rkroach btw
>>544120668owlcat hates european redheads but loves blacks
>Kepler Interactive bought a majority stake in tactical adventures Is solasta 2 going to be woke?
>>544120668>Why can I be racist toward Yrliet There actually aren't that many opportunities to be racist towards her. Yeah you can kill her but you can't racially abuse her really.
>>544120443Owlcat - cuckoldry, see any character defence force
>>544120893>going to be
>>544111457I'm gonna say it, I think Nyrissa and the Lantern King were better antagonists than Deskari and Areelu
>>544119313Every thread that mentions Imoen if I can help it
>>544120994>arueshalae is all of owlcatkys
Anyone know what is making enemies take reflect damage when they attack Ulbrig?
>>544122442Check his items, one of them might be the culprit
What the fuck do I do against the wolfweres in the ship in Tales of the Sword Coast?I give everyone every buff we have, send in the tanks to the front, have the mages spam any wands we have, and we still get fucking obliterated with the wolves are still pretty much full health.What's even the point of having all these special status effects and spells if none of them fucking work on anything other than the weakest enemies that you can just auto-attack to death anyway.What year do these games stop pulling this shit? This reminds me a lot of the Morrowind DLCs where they didn't know how to make enemies hard for a max level character, so they just gave them all insane reflect, sanctuary, and armor so you did next to no damage.
>>544122676it's awful, I actually advise people not to even go to that quest.There's a chest behind him that has something that can hit him.It's really just shit though. Durlag's Tower and the icy island wizard fuckery are the only TotSC worth doing.
>>544123374I did the upper tower and the island stuff, and they were great. I thought they were a pretty nice change of pace. It's seemed like almost every encounter since chapter 4 has been just trying to stop yourself from just getting insta-killed by the enemy mage using something to make your party non-functional while being resistant to most of your own methods of crowd control.Does this get better as I go into BG2, Icewind Dale or other later games inspired by them?
>>544123783hahahaha, no
>>544123783TotSC is an add-on, so keep that in mind. It's meant to be "harder than Sarevok".No, BG2 does not continue with this kind of bullshit. And funny enough, Durlag's Tower is pretty great and a lot of people say it's one of the best CRPG dungeon crawls still to this day. But along side it you have this bullshit wolfwere dude who can't be hit by what, +4? I can't remember. Honestly just cheese it, cheat, do whatever, move on and never look back. It's just plain bad, and I say this as someone who loves BG1&2. The wolfwere shit is not worth it.
Hey guys, what roles are you playing today?Also btw, anyone happen to see a ward of Gorion around? I just have to tell him something coolAlright, well stay lit af everyone, also dang this iron crisis right? haha shit's sus fr no cap
>>544101423I don't really care desu as long as they're good interesting companions, which is the opposite of what rt xeno companions were. Focus on good writing, not on whether the characters has a third benis growing out of their forehead
>>544124625neck yourself
>>544110054Both. She explicitely fucks the men she kills
>>544112137you got his nenio build?
>>544124878
>>544124952>>544112598
>>544124952Yeah, here it is:you just cast Weird.But before you cast it, you have to put on sunglasses (so take them off after each time) and say outloud: "Things are about to get... A little WEIRD...."
>>544082520>>544080754demon slayer. or cavalier for doing it with style
>>544125563>(so take them off after each time) fuck that, more layers
Are there any upcoming DLCs for Rogue Trader that i should wait for before trying the game? I never play a game twice so i prefer playing the final pirated version.
>>544127015there's still a necron and space hulk DLC coming in 2026
>>544127167Shit.. looks like i will wait another year then
>>544124625t. Mulahey
who else is high af right now? the secret of the weepstone demo was really fun id defenitily recommend it. now its time to go back to my priest playthrough.
Dark heresy will succeed or fail based solely on if they improve upon the fat noble portrait.
>>544128771dark heresy will succeed based on 40sloppers buying anything with a 40k logo on it>FOR DA EMPRUH XD
>>544128747More like secret of the weedstone
>>544065680>bard? ew!>thief -> mage dual class oh yes!
>>544128747DUDE
>>544110054Cam factually, explicitly and literally fucks only you (as a virgin)now cue the cope
>>544065680I remember eder cracking orlan jokes in the first pillars. Times have changed.
My favorite character is yerlit because she calls idira a monkey
Am I the only one that doesn't care about dolly personality and instead focuses on their efficiency in combat?My parties are ran as a meritocracy, fuck your stupid romance and drama.Higher numbers = pp gets hard.
>>544129729>Higher numbers = pp gets hardI think jrpgs would be more up your lane
>>544129729see >>544129771 or mmos
Outerworlds 2 is this generations new vegas.
>>544129932HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Avowed is this generation's skyrim.
>>544129771>>544129852>doesn't care about high numbersI think SPH would be more up your lane
vtmb2 is this generations vtmb
>Outerworlds 2 is 70 BUCKSThey've lost it.
Inxile vs Obsidian proves that Fargo was behind all the good parts about fallout not tim cain.
>>544130387Not my cup of tea but clockwork looks like a solid game desu. I played the first OW and it was forgettable trash. I feel like obsidian themselves don't even know what made new vegas good. All their future attempts at factions/politics in their other games were subpar at best, including tyranny and poe2.
>>544129729I'd say most people judge the characters based on a mixture of personality and combat efficiency. Most would probably like it the character is interesting and/or has a nice romance, but if they're very effective in combat, then the potential shortcomings in other areas usually won't stop people from using them and vice versaArgenta for example is flat as fuck character wise, which is why you almost never see anyone talk about her as a character. Instead, people often talk about how much damage she can do, and therefore they don't mind that she has nothing interesting going on as a character
i don't care how powerful you make heri'm always killing j*e
>>544130752Except for nenio, I'd rather have a random merc than that bitch or even gimp myself and run without a wizard.The worst character owlcat ever made.
>>544130840Why what's wrong with her?
>>544129567Does she? She says something >Elantach you are foolish to allow one who communes with the Great Evil into your retinue!and Idira laughs to hear a xeno talking like an imperial
>>544131376Iranian (part of the axis of evil)
Randy pitchford should start making crpgs. Gearbox could easily make the bg3 killer.
>axis of evilGo back to rèddit, retard.
>evil Not real
>Deus Ex in the list>the Witcher isn'tOP is a faggot
Witcher is about as much of a crpg as fallout 4
Who wins in a fight? Idira or argenta.
Replace Yrliet with Jaheira Replace Cassia with Aerie Replace Jae with Imoen Replace Marazhai with Viconia
>>544132970You realize these lists are made by some random anon that probably doesn't even post here anymore and we just copypasta the OP.Also it says "and many others".
half life is rumored to be a crpg
Arue and Cassia are the best things that happened with the genre.
>>544130893filtered
>>544122676>>544123374I'm still stuck on this quest. Backing out to an old save isn't an option because apparently my last permanent save was before doing other difficult side content (about 30 in-game days for what that's worth. I guess that boat ride took longer than I thought.)How do I cheese the absolute fuck out of these guys? What works against them? How can I lure them out one at a time to zerg rush them individually, rest-spamming in between each?The last few times I found a seemingly impossible encounter I abused potions of Stone Form and the best strength potion I could find, Gave them to the three tankiest party members, and had them go all ham while my wizard keeps summoning monsters from the background.This time, I tried that and everyone got obliterated anyway. Even through the stone form, and the monsters I summoned didn't stand a chance. I also tried sending the main wizard in with every protection spell and potion I had, including a resist fire potion with the intent to just continuously cast Fireballs on everything. That didn't work either. I tried sending the thief in to stealthily take the spell book I'm looking for. Not only could I not find it, but she left stealth when trying to lockpick and got killed again.If not all that, then is there a way off the island other than the one we actually do the quest to find? I get that it's the whole goal here, but I'm just ready to plunder the bottom half of Durlag's tower, beat the fuck out of Sarevok, and move on to the proper DLC.
i enjoy nenio+ember bants
>>544134817If reddit was ever personified it'd be nenio
>>544135014Reddit hates nenio doe
>>544135257Because she's a mirror. If someone personified all your faults and annoyances into one character to show you how cringe you really are, you'd hate it too.
>>544134927wow this is crazy, monke making all the humans look stupid lmao
Nenio should have been a human female thats romancable
>>544134927Ember's Live Laugh Love is too autistic to my liking
>>544135503stfu froggy go play your shitty vtmb "rpg"
Why dont the models get fully nude during the sex scenes in Rouge trader? Did owlcat learn nothing from bg3?
How do ministorum priest powers work in 40k lore? If you touch enough Holy artifacts your prayers are stronger than other people's?
>>544136245kill yourself
>>544136352All about faith I think. The Emperor is rarely personally aware of you but with enough faith you'll attract the attention of some modicum of his multi-faceted persona that exists in the warp.
>>544136352strong will = more visible in the warp = attention from emperor its also why demons find and rape psykers.
>random dickhead in Void Shadows gets a drukhari mercMeanwhile I'm stuck with Yrilet and some spaz who wasted all his resources trying to kidnap a fucking RT.
>>544137178I remember there being drukhari mercs on the ship you board during Lex Imperialis, but when are drukhari mercs present in Void Shadows?
>>544137363I think anon meant Sargona
>>544137363I'm a retard. I meant Lex Imperialis.
>>544137471Do you think holding hands was included in the standard contract? Or was that an extra fee.
>>544137178>>544137471Everyone is just so much cooler than you. They're all having thrilling adventures with exotic aliens and fascinating environments, meanwhile you're trudging around the same old imperial cityscapes or being dumped down a hole in Commorragh
>>544135889doubt that's froggy since he's a furry, so why would he want her to be female?
>>544138309I meant to say: why would he want her to be human*
>>544137723>Everyone is just so much cooler than youI unironically agree. Calcazar gets to make trade deals with Drukhari, uses a forge world to build a Ctan enslavement device, takes on a tomb world and then gets to capture a shard of the void dragon whilst also getting to backstab and do politcal bullshit at the same time. Did Owlcat not think that would make for a more compelling narrative for the MC then a shitty chaos cult plot that goes nowhere and being a janny for an Inquisitor? Meanwhile you get the privilege of dealing with Janus, Dargonus and Kiava Gamma because apparently despite being a great RT, Theodora is incapable of keeping her own affairs in order. Winterscale gets to launch a war against the eldar and gets a slyth because fuck you. Hell he even gets a bloodletter. The campaign is serviceable on the first run but it falls apart when in retrospect.
>>544138309cause he's an all around degen and he romance the asian girl in veilguard
>>544094004https://youtu.be/LuZmmAcovLA?si=xxf0eFpWtBxiX6SaLate reply, went off after that post
Gameplay, mechanics and story wise outerworlds 2 is better than new vegas, to bad the aesthetics are super ugly
Why is there so much freemason imagery in owlcat games?
>>544140609They were inspired by the top floor of a pub favoured by university students in my cityFor some reason it's top floor has the freemason logo and iirc can only be rented out for freemason meetings or something
>>544140609there isn't?
What the fuck is freemason? Like a stone worker who do shit for free?
>>544110054She has a closet full of bdsm sex toys in her mansion, she says she "prefers the feel of a man inside her" when the player character is a woman, and she will often use sex as a way to get men alone to kill them, you even catch her doing this, and of course we are told that she is a regular customer at the brothel. If she were murdering the prostitutes every time, the person we learn that fact from probably wouldn't have said it in such a friendly way. The game very much establishes that she is sexually active.
>>544141909ngl this makes her kind of based. Never romanced her, might do it next playthrough
>>544110717bg3. There's a whole system for it, with appropriate naming. "9 blades" becomes "sixteen strikes" when you critically strike in the game, which is music notation reference for what you just did.And of course songs for a party member going down or when you kill an important enemy and the like.Borislav Slavov won composer of the year, as well as a bafta award, for a reason.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71k6gx2RwY8&list=RD5kJkAoaW634&index=3
>>544110181You literally caught Cam with a half naked dude with no pants on and a raging erection and there are still faggots who try to argue that she "doesnt fuck who she kills" I bet if you guys were girls you would get pregnant alot
>>544141801A mason who isn't part of the guild
Cam = vanilla ice cream, nice for the first few scoops but you get sick of it very quickly, very one note
Amalur's awful ending (Fatesworn, not base game) would be more bearable if they at least let you take your elf wife from Dead Kel DLC with you.
Wenduag really got offended because I called her “my chained beast”
Is Dark Heresy really gonna flop if the waifus are bad?
>>544146953It will flop and owlcat won't understand why>Cassia was described as a monstrous mutant>Yrliet was described as disturbingly inhuman and completely unfeminine>everyone liked them so why don't they like our kroot??
Mishulin if you can hear me add a Black Templar to Dark Heresy, they are so cute and cuddly and deserve headpats!
>>544072683>Why do most people on here think WotR is the greatest RPG everThe extreme praise for both WotR and BG3 baffles me to this day. Especially when people start to praise stuff like the writing and narrative design.
LEAKMAN PLEASE LEAK A DARK HERESY WAIFU!
>>544147603There's a Sororitas waifu for Larry
>>544089171>one cherrypicked minor example which is an autistic nitpick which is also partially impacted by how driving around with a bunch of aeldari would impact tons of other stuff in the game>this makes the entire character badIf this is the way you want to argue, then every single companion in the game is shit. People like Yrliet because she's a different kind of character, feels actually alien in how you interact with her, including her romance if you go down that route.You come across as someone that like bland generic stuff like Cassia or Argenta.
>>544093814>realistic looking portraits>basic grass and fog>goofy ass cartoon spooky tree>good art direction
>>544097990>bg3>use speak with animals>the way the animals speak is very articulate>more so than creatures and humanoids that are supposed to be more intelligent than themthis is when you knew larian just didn't give a shit
I'm considering getting OW2. I thought the first one was actually pretty boring. Not terrible but not good either. I didn't particularly like Avowed either, with a similar pattern. They don't make "bad" games, they're just middling with forgettable characters. So I had originally decided to not get their next game, but I'm hearing mostly good things about the upcoming one. I wouldn't mind a new game since I've already beaten rogue trader and bg3 and other recent crpg a bunch of times. But if it's just more of the same of OW1 then I would skip it.
>>544148710>very articulateNot really a problem. The spell merely converts animal speech and thoughts into a language familiar to the caster, but that's more interpretation than literal translation. A dog or cat might say, "I am starving, master," which is more useful than "me hungry" or baby speak. The spell doesn't grant them intelligence comparable to humans. They remain blissfully unaware of the future and how bad things really are.
Cool?
I am so fucking tired of Arue romance bro >Saintly pretty annie may girlfriend who doesn't let you kiss her muchless fuck>Random ugly bastards keep telling you how much of a good fuck she was in the past and this one time she fitted like 50 dicks in her ass all at once This is fucking cock and balls torture, who actually like this fucking shit?
why are lightfoot halfling so busted?
Is there anything more cucked than getting a stand-in dolly to smooch and fuck your waifu?Think about it. You spend all this time getting your stuntman-dolly just perfect and hoping that your desired romantic partner will be into him. You're basically asking to watch while your "MC" does what you can't.The worst part is that it's even lower than actual cucking, it's cucking yourself with virtual dolls. If you can't see how bad this is then you're already too far gone.
>>544153872just self insert bro
>>544154072>just pretend you're the bull while you hold her hand from the cuck chair, bro
Do you think if it were up to him, that your MC would let you watch or no?Do you think "your" waifu would even be interested in you even?I bet if he knew how much you wanted to watch, your MC would completely lose all respect for you.
Ready to save earth!
>>544153872I think you forgot to take in account that ur waifu doll has an author.As such, the more appropriate question to ponder would be: is it gay to have ur doll fuck another man's doll?
>>544157259I have a guy friend who will bring over his doll to go on dates and do other stuff with my doll, there's nothing gay about it
>>544124952He used to post his builds occasionally. Either him or someone else made this compilation.
aaaaiiiieeeeee I can't get in!
how's the outer worlds 2 lads?
>>544157732Sorry, forgot to paste the link: https://pastebin.com/u/pwrg_builds
>>544156294>>544157786Get wrecked, nerd
>>544056776But I love Leliana. She's the best waifu in the whole Dragon Age franchise.
>>544156294>>544157786Wot's dis?
I played Bloodlines 2.I want to kill myself.Why did I play Bloodlines 2?
>A hands-off demo at Gamescom picked up at the isometric role-playing game’s 15-hour mark, with the Inquisitor leading a five-person party investigating a series of disappearances on Scintilla, a planet in the Calixis Sector where the corrupting power of Chaos has already taken hold. You’re also seeking to unlock the larger mystery of the Tyrant Star, a mysterious planet-killing force from ancient times. Hope is lost for the people of Scintilla, but at least you can get some answers for the Imperium.>Of course, you’re keeping all this a secret from the characters you’re working with. You’re looking to earn the trust of the Tyrantine Cabal, the local branch of the Inquisition, by investigating disappearances from a site being excavated by a giant drill>>Of course, you’re keeping all this a secret from the characters you’re working with.NOOOOOOO I DON'T WANNA LIE TO LARRY
>>544158253outer worlds 2. Something fun until the dark heresy alpha starts.
>>544158143>She's the best waifu in the whole Dragon Age franchise.Lmao
>Dark Heresy won’t offer any correcting prompts or stop your progress if you give the wrong answer, but your choices do have consequences. That can be just a snide comment about your competence from the person you’re talking to or something you won’t learn about until much later. In this case, we were able to impress the Inquisitor enough that she asked us to take someone with us. The new companion brought our party to six.NOOOOO I DON'T WANNA MISS COMPANIONS BECAUSE I AM STOOOOPID
>>544158819>outer worlds 2Oh fuck thats already out? I somewhat enjoyed the first one but it man I hope they improved upon it becase the setting had potential
>yeah, they've already shared that dark heresy will be fully voice acted. This will be their first game which will be so. I expect the game to be smaller in scale though to account for this, however I'm pretty sure (though I might be wrong) that the dark heresy game is the start of a series and that they plan to create sequels to it, if the first game is a hit then we can expect the later games to get bigger in scaleJourno confirms moar 40sloppa
When Dark Heresy alpha drops how many people here will be spamming misinformation and edited dialogue screenshots about cuckoldry?
>>544158819>>544157786>>544156294not a crpg
>>544159994Just one
>>544159409If ever you needed more confirmation that slop trader was forced on them by gw and they wanted Dark Heresy all along
>>544158656>>544158940>>544159409source for journo? I want to read it as well
>>544160865>>544160935https://www.polygon.com/warhammer-40k-dark-heresy-preview-gamescom/The >>544159409 comment was by another journo subhuman in comments
>>544158656>Scintilla, a planet in the Calixis Sector where the corrupting power of Chaos has already taken hold.That's every hive world though>but your choices do have consequencesI'll take Marketing Lies for a 100.
>>544161179thank ye
>>544158339I'm not sure what you expected and you were warned. You need to get to the point where you don't need to get excited for NEW THING and you only play games that are actually good.
>>544139668Seriously doubt, based on Outer Worlds 1, which has infantile writing and much less interesting gameplay.
>>544152430Arue is just>what if we made fall-from-grace, but worse
Did Raszard actually an hero due to a Yrliet chatbot?
Remember when Swen said BG3 has 17,000 endings?
>>544161914I 'member lots of things. I am grateful for them, for they taught me that all companies exist only to make money and they will do anything if it means making more profit. They are not my friend and only see me as someone to swindle
>>544161914Remember when Swen said they would add more good companions later, but didn't and just cut content from the non-origin ones?
Is Expeditions 33 a crpg?
>>544162637No, but I hear it's a very good jrpg.
>>544162637It's just a standard bad western narrative game with shitty turn based combat and poor writing.
Why is there a word bearer event where you lose 4 to all your colony stats? Why does my security stat not matter at all?
>It's just a standard bad western narrative game with shitty turn based combat and poor writing.
>>544072004>>544071681isn't it a crpg?i never played the first outer wilds
>>544164772yes it is, it just kind of sucks. OW 1 didn't suck in the "its absolute garbage" kind of way but the even worse "its painfully mediocre and entirely forgettable" kind of sucks
>i was a super badass tiefling fighting in the demon wars that was so good at killing demons i was made into this super powerful demon's personal attack dog and i am fueled by this special demon engine, fuck yes>oh and i'm also a really nice and misunderstood person>lv1, barely managing to kill goblins and gnolls
>>544072683>Why do most people on here think WotR is the greatest RPG ever made nobody thinks that. we just play it a lot and you're jumping to conclusions>when a good number of the feats/classes are either bugged ornot many are, actually.>the writing can be very verbosesome guys on here think it's a flex that the writing is verbose. i guess they are insecure or something>there's many absolutely useless skills/featsguys on here will defend that as giving you choice. >Is it because of build autism?no, it's a hallucination on your part and a lack of basic awareness.
>>544163192it's not japanese, retard.it's an frpg
>>544164474What the hell do you expect your toy soldiers to do against a band of juiced up chaos marines?
>>544164652How is it not? Everything is like your bog standard western narrative game, right down to the generic designs, style of writing, trying to be arty farty, bland music, etc. The combat is bad for multiple reasons and is actively worse than games that came before it like Shadow Hearts that also went for more active timing based combat. The writing is bad throughout, but gets progressively worse along with the story shitting itself more and more. Then at the end it pulls the 'it was all fake/a dream' shit but tries to tell you that the fake shit was totally not fake in the worst ways possible.It's the most normiecore game I've ever played.
>544165486die ig
>>544165593All wrong, I'm sorry about your shit taste.
any new waifus in the next owlslop?
>>544165838I'm not the one in denial plugging my ears to reality. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Obsidian-sama...
>>544165854>any new waifus in the next owlslop?Will probably involve some new sicko fetishes, like the Kroot romance ends with her promising to eat you when you die so you can live on inside of her.
>(You)s given : 0>(You)s gotten : 61thanks losers
>>544165070yes anon, they even complain about that happening in dialogue due to the worm
>>544165925>an objectively well written game is le bad because... because it just is ok?Being a contrarian tranny has never been cool, but whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>544162637If Disco Elysium is, then yes
>>544165854A bitd, a female kang, a female white witch huntress and a female eldar (ynnari)
>>544166160no way the only women are a black and this horrifying bird alien.what the hell is owlcat thinking
>>544166306>objectively good writing reasonI guess if you don't care about plot holes, non-sensical writing and character behavior, heavy-handed and pretentious incapable of delivering on what they're trying to execute on, complete tonal shifts, confused lack of focus and an ending choice that tries to tell you that all the fake stuff totally mattered and is still real when they made it clear prior that it doesn't... if you ignore all that then yeah, it's pretty good you're right. For a yound adult novel.
why does owlcat always make a black female companion
>>544166821We were spared one in KM, but they couldn't help themselves and made sure he had a subplot of impregnating a white woman
>>544166514More companions will be announced
>>544166821why does owlcat always make a white male companion
>>544166959the game comes out in a month
>>544167159Not the full game and not with all companions.
>>544166821Why doesn't Owlcat ever make asian male companions?
>>544093369>move into a cabin in the wilderness>GalfreyReally? I didn't
>>544167452isn't nenio one?
>>544167452DH has a male asian companion
>>544167443Well RT Alpha had all the companions apart from Marazhai and Ulfar. Chances are DH Alpha will have most of the unrevealed cast too.
>>544167452"generational trauma" from 1905they're from moscow so they probably believe shit like that
>>544167452>>544167554the expanse also has that kpop fuckboy
>>544167602What are the chances they won't include late game companions this time? Those are always bad
>>544167443what?
>>544167729>Those are always badso are the side game modes but they keep doing them
>>544167730alpha is in december
>>544167602Yes, but not all of them. Which is the point. Meaning the unrevealed ones are most likely ones you get later or is a bit of a story related spoiler like Marazhai was.
>>544165070>2025, nearing 2026>Still doesnt know that all companions were nerfedYou thought Mystra was banging a level 1 wizard?
>>544168115why didn't they just make low-level characters for their low-level campaign then instead of making a bunch of excessively grandiose shit that they then needed to make up excuses to nerfis Larian stupid or just retarded?
>>544168115the main point was the special snowflake origin chars, them being lv1 on top is just the cherry on topironically ones like minthara are more interesting than most origin characters and she had content cut
>>544168104I wish they'd just come out and tell us everything from the gecko even if there's minor spoilers, it helps to plan what you want to do with your character or the other characters
>>544168104I feel absolutely nothing from the party and mechanics that have been presented thus farthis marketing is fucked, its like they're actively trying to be boring
>>544167874They seem to have learned their lesson with that one
>>544168962The marketing is bad, but you're just a salty waifunigger
>>544168275Probably because its harder to make interesting backstories for everyone if they are all a bunch of nobodies
>>544168275So they can draw upon those backstory elements during the game itself? If you want to be a fodder spawn joined by literal whos, there are the first two gamesIf you want the player character to be the only super special important one, WotR is right there
>>544169147that is irrelevantits entirely uninteresting either way
Dark Heresy is looking like a custom companion sort of game.
>>544169192every single other rpg managed>>544169386see? like these. Bioware and Owlcat can write proper companions, why is Larian literally incapable of making companions that aren't trying to out-snowflake each other
>>544168104>Epione SpesSo you mean to tell me, she's a doctor, but in SPEEEEEEES?
>>544169386that anon probably thinks some urchin being given the time of day by a demon lord was kino and not something they wouldn't bother with unless it was a lieutenant of theirs
>>544169623lmao least delusional owlslop boy
Yo anons do you remember when RT alpha was about to drop did they reveal more companions beforehand?
when are we starting /dhg/?
>>544169924utterly ridiculous unlike a level 1 rando being caught up in multiple interdimensional invasions, hanging out with god-fuckers and and aliens, getting brainworms shoved in your skull, having three gods hyper-fixate on this one particular city for reasons, and then wasting their time chasing around goblins and flirting with wildlife
>>544169623>every single other rpg managedI cant recall a single popular companion who was a nobody, outside of MAYBE Jaheira
>>544168104Needs Tau
>>544166160Awww, kroot has the Kpop Demon Hunters bird!!
>>544169386>If you want the player character to be the only super special important one, WotR is right thereprobably my biggest gripe with their gamesthere's zero chance no one in your group would try to claim the actual leadership of the country, especially when the fighting was a group effort
>>544169426Seethe, waifutard
>>544170495Galfrey?
>>544170407i don't want them to do one since they'd make her cuck youspess being the only one is a blessing in disguise since she's an uggo black scientist typei just want a greenskin or necron
>>544170495spider
>>544170580He's probably referring to KM, but Galfrey is also a sign of that shitty Owlcat style of handling characters that aren't the player's.The difference between the tabletop version and the game version of Galfrey are almost night and day.
>>544170436Yes!! Isn't it adorbs!?
>>544170407I don't want blue cringelords
>>544170373>I cant recall a single popular companion who was a nobody, outside of MAYBE JaheiraAnon, Minsc was just a guy on a rite of passage where he had to protect Dynaheir. Then he was just a dumb guy with a hamster. He's been in all Baldur's Gate games and is arguably the most well known companion in the series.The ultra special snowflake origin companions in BG3 are the abnormal ones here.
>>544170267That's a great idea actually, we should start it as soon as possible
>>544169192Have you ever read a decent book in your entire life? No, mangu doesn't count.
I can't wait for the greenskin to be friendlier than a romanced Yrliet
>>544169192>Probably because its harder to make interesting backstories for everyone if they are all a bunch of nobodiesEveryone is a nobody until you get to know them.
>>544171246uhh i watched movies about books?
>>544170978A highly trained bodyguard from a far away land with an alien harmster companion hardly counts as a nobody imo, but sure, though I dont think 6 Minscs would be all as popular as the BG3 cast is>>544171246Define decent, because in most fantasy books I've read the MC is the only "nobody", and maybe their close friends. But we are talking about games, not books>>544171512Not what I mean
>There are people who seethed that Alistair was a son of the king during a civil war and not just a retard from the Chantry with shitty sense of humor.
>>544171961he was?
>>544171929>Define decent, because in most fantasy books I've read the MC is the only "nobody", and maybe their close friends. But we are talking about games, not booksholy shit lmao
>>544171929Are you American? Just wondering
>>544171961Alistair was made by his circumstances not his birth, he was just some guy that lost his surrogate dad and had to look up to his only friendAlistair as written by larian would be some some sort of edgy reincarnated old god warlord returned from his own kingdom of friendly darkspawn to fight his half-brother for the throne
>>544171961am i supposed to believe a daughter of THE legendary witch of the wilds is a low level witch?shit writing
>>544170436And the collectors edition gives you the little hat, though I doubt you can put it on the bird.
>>544168104What do the numbers mean.I know know why waifuretards do not realize this is not the full cast. RT had 10 not counting dlc or the secret ones. The waifuslop character must be tied to spoilers. Owlcat has always given straight men the most options in every single game lol.
>>544172138>>544172317I accept your concession
>>544171929>A highly trained bodyguardlol that isn't what he was. He's a young inexperienced warrior that is on a rite of passage to become a man by proving he can protect a mage, which starts with him fucking up and wanting your help to save her from gnolls. He has no actual achievements and isn't anyone special.Then in BG2 it starts with him failing again to protect Dynaheir with her dying. His stupidity is never painted in a positive light and is a weakness played for comedy.He is a very flawed and unremarkable character. It's through his journey with the Bhaalspawn he eventually becomes someone.The backstory of the origin characters in BG3 is the equivalent of Minsc at the end of BG2:Throne of Bhaal.>would be all as popular as the BG3 cast isBG3's cast is fucking terrible though, so I don't see what you're driving at. Only Shadowheart, Laezel and Minthara are ok.
>>544172759>What do the numbers meanRanking from least to most based
>>544172527>am i supposed to believe a daughter of THE legendary witch of the wilds is a low level witch?Why not? She was just there as the host for her mother to take over.
>>544170436Kroot best character confirmed
>>544173227My point still stands, I doubt a game with 6 Minscs would be as popular. And honestly I cant even understand why them being special in various ways is a bad thing in the first place>BG3's cast is fucking terrible thoughYour opinion, they are objectively very popular, probably the most popular RPG cast since mass effect
My CRPG party?>PC>Jacob Taylor>Blackwall>Carth Onasi>Atton Rand>Preston Garvey
>Lvl 1 Leopard has 30 AC with just Magic Armor spell and Defensive Style on
>>544174867dangerously based
>>544174867i know this is shitposting but this sounds fucking awful
>>544173184Yes anon, in all of the history of writing characters and story arcs, no character was a regular nobody.Holden Caulfield, with his secret wizard powers.Raskolnikov, the rich emperor with his endless trove of magical items.Bartleby the mutant scrivener with laser blasters for arms.
>stuck using the same lasgun from act 2 to act 5I hate Owlcat.
>>544174514>My point still stands, I doubt a game with 6 Minscs would be as popular.Except it doesn't. Since pretty much every single other RPG doesn't do what BG3 did since they don't use Origin characters and don't massively overbloat their backgrounds to be super special and powerful. You come across as someone that barely plays RPGs.Take the Mass Effect series for example. Wrex, Garrus and Tali are all nothing special when you meet them. They don't have some insane backstories or go on about how super special they are. Yet they were all very popular companions and still are to this day.You have no point, idiot.
When playing Wrath I was thinking, cool, this is kind of like Heroes. But I hadn't played much Heroes Vee, and not in a very long time. Been checking out the campaign in that recently, and no, Wrath is exactly like it, complete with the fiddly movement due to using squares instead of hexes.
>>544174867i don't know any of those names...wait... Carth??
>>544174867Who has the most charisma
>>544175570nta but wrex is a pretty big deal. moreso than shadowhart, laezel, or astarion. those three are nobodies.
>>544174867>>PCcringe>>Jacob Taylorcringe>>Blackwallbased>>Carth Onasicringe>>Atton Randbased>>Preston Garveycringe
>>544174867>"Gravity's one mean mother, huh?">Something seems to be bothering Carth. Maybe you should speak to him and see if you can get him to open up about it.
Jacob has to be the most nothing character ever written. It is like they didn't want to offend anyone by giving him characterization. But then his loyalty quest is about how his dad left him kek.
>>544176062he's literally just a random imprisoned mercenary
>>544176301his dad got to live a WEG for years
>>544176378His dad would be posting here
>>544176062Wrex was a nobody that became a big deal, which is different. He also wasn't painted up as anything special initially.And the guy is trying to say that companions aren't popular, relevant or memorable unless they have some insanely bloated special snowflake background about how awesome and powerful they are.That is by far the least important part of a companion being interesting and well-written or not. In fact, it was an outright detriment in BG3.Karlach is infinitely less interesting Laezel, despite you not knowing much about her initially while Karlach starts by telling you how special she is right when you meet her.
>>544176330>what is clan urdnothis name is urdnot wrex btw.meanwhile laezel is a generic female gith fighter.
*ahem*Bilbo and Frodo Baggins.
conanguybrush threepwood
Is TWF viable in Wrath on core? I was probably gonna make a ranger of some sort.
>>544176762Wrex is portrayed as just a merc doing a small job on the Citadel to kill Fist. He barely talks about himself beyond just saying he abandoned his people to focus on merc work. It's the events of ME1 that drives him to go back to help his people again.
>>544177194TWF is viable on any setting, especially if you get the feats for free. Demonslayer is one of the best martial classes for just mindlessly killing everything.
I'm so glad Avowed was successful
>>544174514>My point still stands, I doubt a game with 6 Minscs would be as popularYou realize you're using the most well-known and popular companion in the series for your example, right? The one that was so popular and well known they put him in BG3?
>>544177268so what's your issue? that karlach opens up too fast?you feel that, like wrex, she should keep her glamorous past unspoken until you farm more simp points?basically it sounds like you just don't like her personality. you are trying to convince yourself this is a problem with the game, when it's a problem with your head.
>>544177482Cool, I just want to do something slightly different from big ass sword or something. Guess I'll try to work out a build.
>>544177268amazing, a super special background that was effectively for its own sake instead of actually coming into play within the gamestellar example
>>544177536That's what happens when you flaunt the fact that you dislike your players by denying the romances to their faces in the trailer
>>544177536That clearly has less to do with the game being good or not or sales (since it isn't even officially out yet) but the fact that Microsoft is shutting down studios, canceling projects and laying people off across the board. They just waited to fire them so it wouldn't impact the game so close to release.Internal rumors at Microsoft hint at even more mass layoffs coming next year.
>>544177695>so what's your issue? that karlach opens up too fast?Reading is hard for you I see. I don't like repeating myself or engaging with illiterate people, since it means I'm wasting my time for no benefit. If that was my kink I'd go to the zoo and talk to monkeys.
>>544176893>>544177101>n-nnnoooo you can't just have characters that don't have some fantastic backstory!!>doesn't count ... because it doesn't ok!!
>>544178064>angry incoherent ramblingi got it right then. you do have a problem with your head.
>>544177864What are you talking about? We don't see Karlack fighting in the war, how good she is at killing demons, when she got the demon engine or anything like that. We're told all this. Then in the game she's a nothingburger character that farts around while you fetch some metal pieces to upgrade her heart.
>>544177536this is fine, they got to make the games they wanted to, which is more important
>>544178242Carefully explain to me why someone should engage with a person that can't read and understand what they're saying. Give me one good reason.
>>544175453>Holden Caulfield, with his secret wizard powers.>Raskolnikov, the rich emperor with his endless trove of magical items.>Bartleby the mutant scrivener with laser blasters for arms.I would read these
>>544178448that's what i shoudl be saying. i wrote out a deliberate and accurate statement precisely outlining the observed reality. and your response was "y-you can't read!"anon, i am both better at articulating and at reading than you are. i correctly identified your issue. if i'm wrong, say so, otherwise remain gratifyingly mute. i was already happy thatyou melted down, since this was basically an admission that you realized it. so if you want to add more, at least add something of substance, and not this embarrassing spurious nonsense about bad faith engagement
>>544177536With the body blow to rtwp combat(that they brought about when deadfire lost to dos 2) they entered a fork in the road. switch to turn based or take notes from SKYRIM for some reason.
>>544178257we see her being hunted down by people set upon her due to her backstorywe see her being the kill target of another origin character who has ties to her own bosswe see her resonate with the other tieflings who got the raw end of an unfair dealwe see her feud with gortash who sold her out in the pastwe see her die in an ending because of the nature of her problemi think you're being intentionally obtuse because of some tribalistic disdain for larian
>>544177536Oh yeah I forgot about this. Has anyone played this
Will DH be action? This tb shit is so slowpaced.
>>544178801Answer the question.I said things you clearly didn't understand or read. I am then forced to repeat myself. Why should anyone waste time on someone that either can't read or doesn't bother to read what they say? You can't answer that because there is no reason to engage with a person like that, because it's like talking to a wall.You're even so delusional you think your reading comprehension is exceptional despite the fact that that the question you're asking has been answered multipe times already.Whatever, you proved you're not qualified for basic discussion and is far too biased. You've emotionally attached yourself to BG3 and emotionally treat it like a personal insult when it's criticized.
>>544178998Try not-crpg general
>>544178979See >>544177864 and apply your shitposting to that.
>>544179038sloppa is dead and buried. Turn based has won. Cope and seethe
>>544179205>Answer the questioni did answer it, here >>544178801what part is unclear?didnt read the rest btw
>>544177864Wrex is pretty shit in that regard. The only time a last second reveal like that is decent is if it repaints the previous interactions with them in a new light, ie Solas
>>54417753630% profit margin? but poe2 reached this? josh said so?
>it's another episode of baldurs gate 3 fanboys saying it's the best game ever with the best characters and writing ever
>>544179501why settle for 30% when you can hit 30.5% by firing everyone on top of thatline must go up
>>544178979no you see (hear) voiced dialogue compare that to if you showed up to her fighting devils with no elaboration besides 'don't worry about it, old feud' fails the show dont tell rule
>>544179641>it keeps happeningwhat if---? no, it's everyone else who is wrong
Microsoft is the new EA, now that EA switched to the live services model and doesn't do this anymore. Buying every studio it can get its hands on, forcing them to release games no one wants for the nebulous mainstream audience, and then shutting them down and IP squatting.
>>544179668that's profit margin TARGETobsidian hasnt hit that on anything but fallout new vegas
>>544179501>30% profit margin?Xbox as a whole has to reach this, which is why they are cutting so many people and projects across the entirety of Xbox Blizzard Activision King.
>>544179668based.i'd fire you for 50 basis points
>>544179767>what if the minecraft movie is the best move ever made>chiiiiiicken joooockey wooooaaaaaah
>>544179761you're conflating two different thingswhere, in mass effect one, did wrex's special clan background impact events that played out?if he was just some no name krogan, would anything have changed?
>>544180103yeah? what if it is?what if films in general are a crap medium and it's mostly just old guys who had nothing better nostalgiafagging? and that minecraft movie actually is the best?and, following that, what if bg3 is actually good?being a contrarion is fun and all, but what if good things are, actually, good things?
i think any retard who plays video games enough to post about them could tell you microsoft's misguided and overfunded acquisition of game developers was going to end like this.these retards purchased xbox 360 exclusive anime games to 'break into japan'
>>544180395he was a no name merc. he got retconned to clan head then king of krogan in 3
>>544180526The attempt to appeal to Japan paid off for gamers who didn't have Playstations, even if it didn't pay of for Microsoft. In fact, we got Mushihimesama Futari and Playstation didn't. Different situation than the current one of trying to literally buy every studio they could get their hands on for reasons.
>>544180526microsoft hire this man
>>544180395it had effects later on in the trilogy. the game was never intended to be self-contained in the first place, so it's find if something that happened in 1 was meant to have consequences in 2 or 3.and isn't there a fourth one? i never played that since i was a bit disappointed in 3
They will surely make Pillars 3 now
should i play pillars 1
>>544180526>>544179829>>544177536I'm telling you guys: >>544111457
>>544181230I like the world and the general writing is good, though the companions are a bit of a mixed bagI've never liked RTWP combat, and Pillars didn't make me like it any more
>>544181343when video games became more profitable than other industries, LEfags decided to hop in and capitalize
>B-BROS OUR PROFIT MARGINS remember when every discussion about video games wasn’t just autists larping as billionaire ceos
>>544181230It seems to be polarizing here, but the anons who don't like it come across to me as exaggerating or just angry about Obsidian/Sawyer for some reason. There are legit complaints but they act like Pillars ran over their dog.I think it holds up, yeah. The major things to know are:Don't dump stats, every stat helps every character. So yes emphasize some obviously but dumping something you don't think you'll need will likely hurt you bad as a new player.Ignore the gold-plated NPCs, they are backer content, completely unrelated, and universally despised.The combat itself is fun and feels good, but the encounter design is like someone decided there was an encounter quota per map so it can feel a bit "Ahh, another group of enemies 10 meters away". Deadfire got better at this.I guess the final thing, at the beginning you're weak so if you're struggling it might make sense to head to a town to maybe meet a couple companions.
>>544181897what's a solid class?
Bake the thread, threadbaker
next thread topic better not be pillarshill or bg3slop or wrex
>>544182213Depends how you like to play. Every class is represented if you count the DLC (and you should, many have the opinion it's even better than the base game), but the latest ones (DLC) are Rogue, Monk, and Barbarian. Paladin and Cipher are also a bit later.You can also double up on classes though, one fighter can play very differently from another fighter, or rogue, or whatever.Cipher makes sense for the story and is a pretty fun class. You can be ranged or melee cipher too per your preference.
>>544182740>>544182740>>544182740
>>544182213It’s cipher. It’s always cipher.
>>544182547so. only cipher stands out?
>>544182895I don't know what you're asking. It depends how you like to play, and I don't know anything about you. Cipher's fun, thematic to the story, and the cipher companion you do come across isn't until a bit into the game, so it's a general recommendation.
>>544182213Muscle wizardSummon big magical stick, beat the shit out of people with it
>>544182895It’s more that cipher is strong, thematic, and a class you don’t usually get in other crpgs. Chanter is also pretty neat but it’s more of a support class.
>>544183090i see. so think about what loot drops, which abilities the pc player gets, at what time do these unlock, which encounters are deadly, what parts are fun or satisfying but locked behind abilities, which abilities work well with the game interface...just quickly weigh it in your head for all the classes and which are solid across all factors?no need to make guesses about my preferences, you have no way of knowing them anyway. answer from your experience
Fav crpg? Critical Role fans shouldn’t reply
>>544184142yeah pass on that dawg, have fun though
>>544184529it's the sort of thing i do without thinking, so i thought it'd be an easy ask.i guess if you don't think about this stuff, it's hard
>>544184401baldurs gate uno
>>544185101Maybe you should stop being autistic and just play the game
>>544156294>>544158819>player utter slop 2What's wrong with you?
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>>544142406retard
