Twins editionWhat is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>543813491 >Thread QuestionWhat is the worst crpg you have ever played?
>>543931109>What is the worst crpg you have ever played?NWN easy. 2 is no better.
Was that Yrliet true romance thing real? Anyone verify it?
PRAISE THE EMPEROR
>>543931109Why dont malkavians just use there mental powers to fix their minds?
>>543931158yes I did it!
When I finally get on my laptop to bake some anon actually does it.Thanks though.>TQProbably Sword coast legends
Yo asking favor from any Russian anon:Need you to go to https://2ch.su/vg/res/50354661.htmlAnd copy paste:Пpивeт, peбятa! Я oбычнo здecь нe cижy и пo-pyccки нe гoвopю (пoльзyюcь GPT), нo хoтeл cпpocить — y вac cлyчaйнo нeт кaких-нибyдь yтeчeк или cлyхoв нacчёт Dark Heresy или втopoгo ceзoнa Rogue Trader? Moжeт, инфopмaции o eщё нe пoкaзaнных cпyтникaх или дeтaлях гeймплeя? Aнглoязычныe фopyмы, пoхoжe, ничeгo нe знaют, кpoмe тoгo, чтo yжe пoкaзaли caми Owlcat.Just the equivalent of making a singular 4chan post, no hastle required, don't require anything else I'll check the thread for any info myself afterwardsJust wanna ask them about Owlkek leaks, since chances are they might be in the know, but regional block won't let me post, guessing they also have the VPN filter 4chan has so don't wanna bother setting that up.
Wouldn't any child with Arueshalae be an Alufiend or Tiefling
>>543931109>What is the worst crpg you have ever played?Fallout 3. Irredeemable piece of trash
>>543931496She's not a dark outsider anymore so no. They'd probably be aasimar desu.
>>543931506Does that really count
>>543931481You didn't have to be Russian to post on dvach when I used to
Also what bloodlines are best for a blood rager?
>>543931984define best
>>543931109Solasta. My eyes have yet to recover from the damage. That, combined with the subpar story, terrible VA, shitty world, and garbage 5E combat and character building options make it an absolute and total disaster, that cannot in any way be salvaged by a few decent encounter designs.
>>543931382Is Swords Coast Legends even an RPG? I remember it being a boring Dark Alliance style game. Not going to reinstall to remind myself.
>>543931809I get this after trying to post, solved captcha and looked it up it says some boards prohibit foreign IPs to avoid spam
>What is the worst crpg you have ever played?The worst crpg I have ever played is easily Dragon Age Veilguard.I consider myself to be a dragon age fan and I've loved all the games since I was young and followed the story and learned every lore bit and all that, and even I hated the new one. I even liked 2 and 3 which were controversial and I still hated 4.I cannot even guess why someone who plays a lot of crpg and has played the previous DA games would say they like it. I don't know why our resident amphibian said that. 4 damaged the lore in ways that go beyond mere accident, it feels like they were doing it on purpose. An unskilled writer who lied on their resume would have done better job because at least they would have just made some safe and boring slop, what actually happened was they killed off entire storylines established in the previous games, undid key characterizations that made previous characters compelling like Loghain and Flemeth, and wiped out much of the most interesting worldbuilding. It takes someone familiar with the setting to do as much damage as they did, a novice stabbing in the dark would have done less damage. It's genuinely baffling what happened, and I cannot even begin to guess why someone who knows better would say they like the game.The dialogue was terrible, and the inappropriate one-liners and quips about things that are serious grated my nerves the entire time.I bought it because I'm a long time fan and so of course I'm going to play the new one, but I began to be appalled early on. I forced myself to continue because I wanted to see the end and it did have some pretty graphics, but I was dissapointed from start to finish, and at times even beyond dissapointed when key lore and character assassinations kept happening.It's genuinely one of my least favorite games of all time, and I'm a pretty easy to please and easygoing gamer usually. It's one of only several negative reviews I've left on steam.
>>543931506Fallout 3 at least had good exploration.
>>543931984Destined?
>>543932239Glad you were bragging about pre-ordering it
>>543931109dos2
>>543932037Most useful thru the game or primalist friendly
>>543931109>What is the worst crpg you have ever played?Dragon Age: Inquisition
>>543932239I mean I suppose anyone insane enough to actually play that game would indeed rate it as their worst. My condolences for your suffering, though you walked knowingly into the abyss.
The beauty of Solasta
>>543932101>multiple attachments>text formattingthey have surpassed us
you'll all start loving Fallout 3 once it will get its remaster
>>543931751It's an fps skinwalker wearing the skin of a crpg it brutally murdered and devoured
>>543932359One of the most retarded posts I've ever seen, DoS2 is one of the best CRPGs ever made.
>>543931109>TQOuter Worlds. I'm not even going to bother with 2. I've subjected myself to a replay of Andromeda for its gameplay, even, but I won't bother with Outer Worlds again, they've really lost their edge since Fallout.
>>543932551Speaking of solasta I recently found out a majority of tactical adventures got bought by Kepler Interactive (Clair obscur people) is this a good or a bad thing?
>>543932551Doesn't exist.
>>543932418that doesn't really help. the bloodline should compliment your playstyle.
>>543932101Fine. I'll do it for you.
>>543932701I disagree
So what did owlcat confirm in the stream?
>>543933148Thank you anon!
>>543933287the humiliation rituals will continue and ork companion soon™
>>543932990I just want to swing a big sword and self buff for big damage
>>543932701Incorrect opinion
>>543933257Explain your reasoning. The main quest writing and plot are bad, since Larian can't write, but visually it's solid, the character cast is good, the character building is good and it has the best combat and encounter design in CRPG history.
>>543929068Somehow I've never bothered watching the RT shilling ones on his channel, I can't really imagine how "fun" it is doing some weird challenge run for a game that takes nearly a hundred hours to complete
>>543933603angelic and arcane give practical bonuses to your big sword swinging with good aligned damage and dispel attacks respectively. dragon bloodlines get wings and claws to ignore terrain stuff and get extra attacks (I think?) if you use TTT the destined bloodline gives a lot of bonuses to attack.
>>543932359Agreed, simps are out because they think bg3 was the best thing to happen to gaming, but dos2 really is mediocre at best. The whole thing down to the level design feels like an adventure game they tacked a story on to instead of a proper crpg.
I ship them.
>>543934053while Lann does wants pussy, I do not think he's that desperate.
>mfw playing Veilguard
>>543933852I'll try those out then, Angel and arcane. Thanks!
>>543933758I despised splitting the physical and magical armor after DOS1Act 2 is the worst aimless kitchen sink cbt xp grind I have ever experienced, literally worse than MMOsI hate Larian character design where every party member feels like they're theater kids trying to one-up each otherI wasn't thrilled with their characters or races, their elves are just eldar-looking bosmer, Lohse and Prince were fine I guess, Beast and that other guy that nobody even remembers exist are basically non-entitiesI also don't like barrelmancy gameplay, its cheesy
>>543934403no worries. the autist in me would only pick angelic on an aasimar but you do you.
>>543934448>Act 2 is the worst aimless kitchen sink cbt xp grind I have ever experiencedWait what? So having an area where you're not railroaded is bad now? And you're given clear goals there with enough threads to follow.
>>543933287A few things, what I remember:> They said they might do more NPC portraits and have a community vote for which characters get them>They most likely won't be doing any endless dungeon dlcs since those well poorly received>There will be no more big patches before DLC 3 launch, 1.6 will launch with it>They said we can't promise that both characters in DLCs will be romancable>They said Dark Heresy will have a similar amount of companions as RT>They say the general class system being archetypes+origins will remain in Dark Heresy>They will look at operative, vanguard, assassin in the future and MAYBE Noble and Crime lord
>>543934321You wouldn't fuck THIS?
>>543934402not a crpg
>>543934841
>>543934798>They said we can't promise that both characters in DLCs will be romancableGood! I want weirder companions
>>543934726you are railroaded at least on tactician by the level gaps and enemies acting as wallsI'd rather the area be linear than run around in circles trying to find which groups of mobs are hidden in the corner of some inexplicable pirate haven or some shit that I missed for some XP I need to clear the other half the mapits just railroading with more steps on the user's end
>They say the general class system being archetypes+origins will remain in Dark HeresyWizard priest bros we won.
>>543933287
>>543934841I leave it dead in the abandoned house
>>543935053how is that consistent? we can romance the drukhari in RT
>>543935146He said female Drukhari - emphasis on female elf, since Yrliet didn't put out either
>>543935053That was definitely someone here
>>543931274Yes. I confirmed it.
>>543932096it was streamlined and gamified and didn't implement "dnd next" rules properly. But it still had classes.
>>543934448The game is designed so you can do whatever the hell you want in any way you want, and reactivity is king. That's a conscious design choice, the fact you prefer a more narrative focused game is not really relevant to the actual quality of what's there. Characters and races were fine, most of them were memorable and fine, saying it didn't have good characters because of Beast and Ifan is like saying RT didn't have good characters because of Yrliet and Jae. Barrelmancy is something you choose to do, it's a tactical option you have and you can play the game that way if you want, or ignore it and play it any number of ways. That's Larians design philosophy, let the player do what they want. Maximum freedom. If you're so mind broken that you HAVE to do what is the most "efficient" thing that's a (you) problem.
>>543934841smooch/10
>>543934965>I'd rather the area be linearThis is the entire real issue you have with the game, it seems, you don't want to actually have agency and be able to decide where to go and what to do, you want your hand held the entire time and freedom of choice breaks your mind. And no you really can go anywhere in that Act, including on the higher difficulties, the fact you think the enemies that are in the way were too hard is flat out a skill issue on your part.
I swear there was a feat that improved your melee reach/range as a passive. Was it removed?
>>543936293in pathfinder it was called lunge
>>543935916>>543936151>if you don't like DOS2 you hate freedom!is this some kind of burger meme
>>543931481Here's what I got:>>50360472 (You)Mы тoжe ничeгo нeзнaeм, кpoмe тoгo, чтo yжe пoкaзaли caми Owlcat> They said they might do more NPC portraits and have a community vote for which characters get them>They most likely won't be doing any endless dungeon dlcs since those well poorly received>There will be no more big patches before DLC 3 launch, 1.6 will launch with it>They said we can't promise that both characters in DLCs will be romancable>They said Dark Heresy will have a similar amount of companions as RT>They say the general class system being archetypes+origins will remain in Dark Heresy>They will look at operative, vanguard, assassin in the future and MAYBE Noble and Crime lordПoмимo тoгo, чтo ты yжe yпoмянyл, кaжeтcя, eщe были инcaйды o тoм, чтo в двyх ocтaвшихcя dlc нe бyдeт нoвых клaccoв/apхeтипoв. A в пятoм dlc dark heresy бyдeт вceгo двa poмaнтичecких интepeca - нeгp-мeдик и coлдaт c Кaтaчaнa. Чepeз мecяц бyдeт aльфa-тecт, cмoжeшь yзнaть гopaздo бoльшeBooбщe, ты пpишeл cлишкoм пoзднo - вce paзpaбoтчики из Owlcat, cидящиe в этoм тpeдe, yжe пoшли cпaтьBoзвpaщaйcя зaвтpa, a лyчшe вooбщe в пoнeдeльник.Basically they know the same things we do. He mentions that there was insider information that the last 2 dlcs won't have any new archetypes, and that DH will only have 2 romance option 0 the black medic and the catachan guy (personally I think this is bullshit, but that's what rusanon said). Also he said that owlcat employees that post there have already gone to bed and suggested I come back on monday
>>543937041>Similar amount of companions as RTMan, DH cast confirmed as being a massive downgrade from RT, even if all of the remaining companions are great, the ones already shown look incredibly lackluster and dull. What a misstep by Owlcat.
>>543937041That's literally what I wrote here thoughever >>543934798
>>543937238Yes, that's why he said they know the same shit we do, and relayed some rumours from a supposed insider
>>543937404No I mean copy pasted kek
>>543937041>He mentions that there was insider information that the last 2 dlcs won't have any new archetypes, sounds real>and that DH will only have 2 romance option 0 the black medic and the catachan guy sounds like bullshit, but I hope it's true just to see the suicides of local waifuniggers
>>543937449Дa, этo былo пepeчиcлeниe тoгo, чтo вы yжe знaeтe
>>543937575>sounds like bullshit, but I hope it's true just to see the suicides of local waifuniggersthey just won't play it? where does this undue arrogance come from?
>>543937703>they just won't play it?lol. lmao.
>>543937926DH already has even less appeal by being smaller scale and less free than RT. if the cast sucks it will just be ignored. it doesn't even have the usual 40k bonus without the sister and spess muhreen on the cover.
>>543937703Yes, yes, boycott mw2
>>543937041>(personally I think this is bullshit, but that's what rusanon said)it is bullshit since they confirmed DH will have a simlar number of romances as RT in the first DH dev stream
>>543937926DH is already looking like a downgrade from RT in every way, I'm considering skipping it regardless of romances, so it wouldn't be surprising if romancefags pass it up if Owlcat goes that route.
>>543938071
>>543938071Smaller scale seems like a better idea. Owlcat keeps shoving their games full of unfinished content.
>>543938320no need to post selfies bro
>>543937230DH cover squad looks massively superior to RT one
DH cast looks good, waifufaggots are sharting themselves because theydon't have hot women on the cover.
The anti-DHfag is back. I will be playing the Alpha!
>>543938548I've never been a fan of low level, small scale TT desu. Especially not in vidya. I personally don't care for DH and don't see any mass appeal in it even beyond my taste. Inquisition fans in specific are pretty rare.
>>543938756Dark Heresy is gw's most popular 40k tabletop supplement. Its appeal is larger than you think
>>543938719But that's the thing, waifus sell.
>>543938935I mean we have autists for all the space marine chapters, chaosfags, sister posters, tau and eldar posters, but the Inquisition is more of a background faction. If the scope is smaller, the main faction has no autists, and the crew has no autists and doesn't get the smooching bump I just don't see why anyone would give a shit about it.
>>543939060>comments mentioning Abelard, Pasqal, wanting a different MarineS-see romance is the only thing that matters!
all the babes are locked behind DLCs
>>543938756Who cares what you want, I want Owlcat to finally release a completed game.
Owlshart is retarded. They should just make all companions waifus and let you have a harem and orgies.
>>543939321as is tradition
>Warhammer Day is going to be on Saturday the 25th of Octobermaybe we learn of the missing waifus there
>>543939060I think the Corsair is cooler than Yrilet and Maraz. Helmets and faceless characters are cool and I'm tired of faggots hating on them.
Why do all 40sloppers hate Ulfar. I thought Marines were beloved. Is he not sigma male enough?
>>543939423>I want Owlcat to finally release a completed game.something tells me you're going to keep waiting on this front>>543939716nobody likes furries
Why did VTMB2 fail when VTMB succeeded?
>>543939060Not in 40k. They are irrelevant there. None of the successful 40k games needed waifus or romance. DH already is destined to be a huge success, no matter what Owlcat does. RT already has a fame that it's not a generic shovelware to be ignored like many other warhammger games. All current players and other 40k players will jump onto it immediately>>543939158Inquisition perfectly exemplifies 40k "Purge the Heretic" meme. It was always more popular for this reason. Rogue Traders are a meme for people who don't like 40k.
But why did Owlcat put the Kroot girl and the chocolate plain jane on the cover instead of the actualy hot companions?
>>543939934Not a rpg
>>543939982>Inquisition perfectly exemplifies 40k "Purge the Heretic" meme. It was always more popular for this reason. Yeah but not the fun kind like spess muhreens stomping shit, it's the grimy kind.>Rogue Traders are a meme for people who don't like 40k.Which was it's appeal. Easily the most moderate rendition of 40k.
Since Froggy is a contrarian, will he defend Dark Heresy if it's bad? Or is his hatred for Owlcat too great?
>>543939716In order to like Ulfar you have to like Space Wolves, and many 40K players hate them because they are one of the chosen chapters that gets all the lore and attention, so their jealousy and seethe over them reaches critical levels and they rage about them nonstop. I don't know what they are expecting, Vikings are and always will be cool.
>>543940171Only if they add a asian chick
>>543940171Stop posting about your thread celeb, faggot
>>543940171I didn't post in the Owlcat General days, did Frogman also hate Owlcat before they switched to Rogue Trader?
>>543939619Eldar in general have a cool aesthetic. Though I'd want to see his face eventually. It would be a good sign of trust. And he can't possibly wear it all the time even if he doesn't, removing the helmet won't be a problem with toybox
>>543939934>vtm sequel>you must be a pajeet/aThey drained all the cool and sexiness out, and its not even a proper crpg anymore.
who are the good guys in 40k?
>>543940709Orks unironically
>>543939716I don't hate Ulfar. I like him
>>543940709The cherubs
>>543939716Mechanically he fucking sucks
>>543940709Necron
>>543931496Cambion, she was a full demon
>>543940709The Jokaeros
>>543940709We've already been over this. Since everyone is genocidal enemies in this setting, the only way you can gauge a factions morality is by judging how they treat their own. Therefore, the only moral factions in this game are the T'au and the Craftworld Eldar.
Why do incels hate Yrliet just because she won't put out?
>>543932239I dunno I drop games and forget they exist if I don't like them
>>543939716He goes 'lol fuck niggers (chaos and the inquisition)' instead of going OOOOH MY SCIENCEEEE I'M DOGMAIIIING or whatever
>>543941229I hate her because she's retarded chud
>>543940672Indians don't look like that you sperg
>>543940709The tau are the only ones willing to actively coexist so them, it's pretty simpleThey're still conquerors but they're the only race to actively attempt diplomacy
Rogue Turder flopped. Shat the bed. Pooped its pants. Next game Owltroons shit out is going to perform even worse, because they've utterly annihilated any goodwill they had with their playerbase. Now everyone and their dog knows not to buy their shit games on launch.
>>543941418>OOOOH MY SCIENCEEEE I'M DOGMAIIIINGHe really didn't say this
>>543940709Those centaur armor guys that the space marines destroy in the first couple Horus Heresy books.
>>543940672>crpg anymoreVTMB is an imsim
>>543941229She's really not disliked because of the romance, though, she's disliked because she's the worst written character Owlcat has ever made. Also if you like Crafworld Eldar at all you despise her for being an absolutely atrocious representative for the faction.
I hope we get a jeet companion in Dark Heresy
>>543941843>she's the worst written character Owlcat has ever madeWhat kid of bait is this? The worst Owlcat character is a toss up between Nenio and Seelah.
>>543941843>an absolutely atrocious representative for the faction.no every character needs to be a representative of their faction you autist
>>543941647Copying Froggy right to his obsession with scat, eh?
>>543932239>undid key characterizations that made previous characters compelling like LoghainIs it true that he did what he did because time jannies told him to? Was I not lied to?
>>543939716His gameplay is shit because none of the zones were designed with his unit size in mind. Character wise he's boring.
>>543939716Many people like him.For me, he has been strong enough since last year and he has good enough banter with others.But his ass is still fat and hard to navigate
>>543942269No, Yrliet is worse than both of those, Nenio at least has a consistent personality even if it is an extremely annoying one and there is nothing wrong with Seelah at all.>>543942349That's a funny thing to say about RT when every single companion in the game is exactly that. Amusingly, only Yrliet utterly fails to pull it off.
>>543940709Harlequins, they are the only faction tirelessly working to fix things and cooperate with xenos and humans.
>>543942964so your complaint is not even "this character is poorly written and deserving of hate" but "this character is not what I expected of a representative of her faction"
>>543942964>nothing wrong with Seelah at allShe sounds like a modern day sassy black woman and her entire paladin storyline is pretty bad. She's a bad character because she breaks immersion and feels out of place.
>>543943280No, she's poorly written AND a terrible representation of her faction, largely because of, again, terrible writing. How is it every single other character in the game is a solid representative of their respective faction, except Yrliet? Maybe, just maybe, it's because Yrliet is the only companion where the writer(s) absolutely and utterly failed to do their fucking job. I swear I have no idea why anyone defends Yrliet, it must be romancefags or some shit because there is no way a male character (or a non romanceable female) would ever get this kind of defense force when they are so terribly written and characterized.
>>543943607>Claiming Yrliet is bad>Marazhai exists as a recruitable companionYou've got good bait, keep it up
>>543943557>She sounds likeShe sounds perfectly normal to me, what exactly about how she speaks or what she says is "like a modern day sassy black woman"? She's generally respectful and genuine in all of her interactions. And what's wrong with her storyline? It's the classic Law VS Good struggle of the Paladin class, nothing wrong with that. You can just be honest and say you hate the character because she's black, man, rather than trying to invent other reasons for it.
>>543943607but why does a character NEED to be a rEpReSeNtAtIvE yo
>>543943557>breaks immersion in the retarded melting pot of GolarionSure.
How good is Neverwinter Nights 2, compared to the original?
>>543943557That's a problem with sound direction, not writing, and the rest of your compaint is a non-issue
>>543943776Marazhai is one of the best written characters in the game, though, and he's also absolutely everything a Dark Eldar is and should be. A nice thing to see, since Owlcat could've easily made him much softer, instead they fully embraced the edge lording that defines the Dark Eldar as a faction. The fact you think he's badly written is hilarious.
>>543943776Marz is better than Yrliturd
I wanna smooch her.
>>543943831Vanila campaign is ok, if cookiecutter.Mask of the betrayer is great. Storm of Zehir is pretty good.Gameplay wise, it's clunky 3d but workable 3d edition.NW1 OG campaign is ass. Expansions are much better, but gameplay is not great.So official NW2 package>BW1, but when you consider all the fan content , online etc, Bw1 is a treasure trove
>>543943776Marazhai is not too hot either, but he is at least written consistently, which even on its own puts him above yrliet
The levels of retardation in today's thread are off the charts
>>543943819Probably because it's a GW licensed game and that was part of the stipulations, again, every single character in RT is exactly that so obviously it was mandated and set up to be so on purpose, a conscious design choice. It's still true even of the DLC companions, as well, Kibellah and Solomorne are defined primarily by being a Death Cultist/Arbites moreso than anything else.
>>543944139Sorry I said your waifu is shit
>>543944187You didn't say anything about Argenta.
>>543944162There's also Jae who's neither here nor there
>>543943607You're replying to this btw (minus leftist)
>>543944139So, just a regular day in crpgg
>>543944683except it's a valid criticism of his criticism to havewhen comparing owlcat characters and the worst ones among them, it shouldn't matter at all that Yrliet is not a proper rEpReSeNtAtIvE of a faction of a setting that most players don't care enough to know in detail
>>543944665Jae is probably the worst faction representative outside of Yrliet, she was supposed to show off the cool, cunning and deadly Cold Trader faction, but she really doesn't pull it off at all.
>>543940709Good guys?In 40K?Heh, let me stop you right there, kid. If what you're looking for is some "clean cut" morality within factions or races, well best keep on lookin' cuz ya ain't gonna find it here. WarHammer: 40,000 will take every single expectation you have and completely subvert it.It's the 41st Millennium, let that just sink in a minute ;)And here you just do what you gotta do to survive, period.It's considered "Grimdark" for a reason: Equal parts grim and dark. Deal with it.If that's too much for you to handle then run along back to your little He-Mans and GI Joes because this setting is NOT for babies.
>>543945102vladym does it better but they had to give you a brown whore to fuck to fill their quota
Jae was the most worthless companion spot to me. Wish they did something else for another icono character.
Argentina is worse than Jae
>>543945012Are you even reading your own posts at this point? It shouldn't matter that Yrliet was written so badly that she fails at the basic bitch rock bottom standard every single other companion (except maybe Jae) passes? Ok yeah whatever man, last (you) from me.
>>543943831I played NWN and its add-ons to death (especially HotU is great). NWN2 is a buggy crapfest with badly written characters and a subpar story. I haven't played Storm of Zehir, but Mask of the Betrayer was already so bad from the get-go that I haven't finished it. That stupid shard-mechanic (I think it was a shard?) didn't help.That's my opinion, though. Other people somehow think Mask of the Betrayer is the second coming of Christ, but other people also somehow think Obsidian make good games. So, in the end, try it out yourself.Best thing I can say is, it's quite different.
>>543945468But shes a SoB!
Seeing Argentas VA make me stop using her
>>543931274Yes if you set the flags right she stays with you until she withers away like Arwen so you send her to live on a craftworld so she doesn't fade away completely
>Elves>but in space
>>543945367Yeah Vladym actually manages to be what Jae should've been, even with way less screen time.
>>543945254t. irony poisoned millennial who watches a lot of capeshit where superheroes make quips after a planet has exploded
Obsidian bros, it might be over....
>>543945367Love that egg like you wouldn't believe
I don't think I ever used jae outside of her missions
>>543945696What is this character and armour design?
>>543940709My faction>>543939578What sort of chick you would have added to WotR instead of Ulfbrig?
>>543945696You know one of the things that really irritates me about the woke type designs is they absolutely refuse to let women have long hair.
>>543945696reminder the DH cast is even uglier and more unfuckable but owlcat fans will defend it to the death because it's a cult
>>543945846The big mutant is sexy
>>543945468https://youtu.be/adUPdnzCAk8?si=yM5KomZNmmReNShw
>>543943831I want to say its pretty decent, but not great. But its also been a very long time since I played it. My memory of it puts it in as a poor man's Dragon Age.Mask of the Betrayer I remember liking, though I don't know if I'd put it on a pedastel like >>543945483 suggests its fans might.I remember there being some OP shenanigans with vampiric undead in the midgame that I wasn't fond of, but other than that pretty decent, I recommend it if you've played everything else and like D&D.
>Niggers but like, in space
>>543945639>>543945721thinking about it more they totally should have been switched but whatever. I liked every conversation I had with him.>mfw throwing them for a loop comes back up later
>>543945582I was aking about this>>543930456
>>543946089whoopsy
>>543945816>What sort of chick you would have added to WotR instead of Ulfbrig?remember what they took from you
>>543946246Oh that Yeah I'm sure that's realI trust anon
>>543946331i hate w*men tho
>>543945816>>543946331Yeah I would just make Ulfbrig a chick. ezpz
If owlcat companions were animalsCam = pitbull (thanks to the anon who corrected me)Wenduag = hyenaEmber = parakeetValerie = horseGalfrey = sawnYrliet = praying mantis
>>543946505>sawnwhat is that?anyway jimmy is a maine coon
>>543946505>sawn
>>543945696What exactly is the problem here?
idk how to justify letting Camellia kill random crusaders but I chose to let her do it because she is my tank and I need her
>>543946682She soft-threatens me (LOL) so I explode her
>>543946682you know you can just make a merc right?
>>543946615sorry meant swan
>>543946682What mythic path and alignment?
>>543943998>Marazhai is one of the best written characters in the game, though, and he's also absolutely everything a Dark Eldar is and should be.Too bad it makes absolutely zero fucking sense to recruit him and keep him around. Not as dogmatic, not as iconoclast, not as heretic.
>>543946754if she would have threatened me I would have chimped out. I’m glad she didn’t.>>543946757I like party banter too much for mercs
>>543946850You know you can play as none of those
>>543946837Chaotic neutral, leaning demon so I guess ill embrace senseless murder
>>543946505Cam = catWendaug = WendaugYrliet = anoleGalfrey = GooseSeelah = GorillaValerie = Golden RetrieverWoljif = Ferret
>>543946682She has mythic powers and is an enormous net good. She kills like 3 or 4 people over the entire campaign and 1000x as much demons.
>>543941843>yrliet>worst written owlcat characterThe moment you wrote this you outed yourself and absolutely no one will take you seriously. Not because Yrliet is good, but because you unironically think she's the worst.Don't bother replying, I'm just letting you know everyone thinks you're a braindead retard.
Wait, Camellia wants to fuck because I let her murder civilians? Holy based
>>543947019Cats are affectionate and loyal and intelligent which is the complete opposite of Cam
>>543947019>Seelah = Gorilla>Valerie = Golden Retrievergoing to make that one fag seethe
>>543947161No they do all those things out of selfishness
The only thing that determines if a character is well-written is how well they represent their faction.That's it>Imoen>Jaheira>Damsel>RacterThese are all bad characters because most of them don't even have factions.
>>543946918>play as none of themUh huh.Even if we pretend that's true it makes no sense to keep a Dark Eldar around that additionally has to regularly kill your crew.
What is Imoen's faction?
>>543947009Yeah, it's pretty easy to justify having Cam do her thing in that case.
>>543947257Who is the best representative of the white woman faction?
>>543946615kinky dog. I trust ididra's judgemen
>>543947412Shadowheart
>>543947412Taash
>>543947576Halsin turns into a bear not a dog
>>543946850Stop replying to the tranny. He's trying to peddle this bullshit in every thread. Just ignore
>>543947382Little sister faction and she's a good representative
>>543947257>The only thing that determines if a character is well-written is how well they represent their faction.Wrong.Characters don't need to be tied to factions. Some companies/writers like doing this to get you more invested and get more insight into said factions. Like Obsidian. Just see >>543945696 where each companion represents a faction.But there is value in having someone not tied to a faction because there are many different approaches to take. But I'm clearly wasting my time here, so why bother explaining something you'll ignore.
>>543947412Yrliet because she won't have sex with me
Can I skip things in wotr? Will I be underleveled if I don’t do the puzzle quests or go to the dragon burial ground? I just want to wait for the queen and do the next main quest
>>543947412Governor Gyatt
>>543947743What are the best traits of that faction?
>>543947412Valerie>Boy, do I HATE it when men look at me>AAAAAIIIIIIIEEEE WHY ARE MEN NOT LOOKING AT ME ANYMORE SAVE ME BARONMAN
>>543946850We've been over this. It absolutely makes sense to ally with Marazhai in Commoragh. Afterwards is more questionable but Owlcat specifically gave you every reason to work with him to escape Commoragh.
>>543947412Yrliet because she's reluctant to race mix (white women statistically are the least inclined to do this)
>>543947765do you have ANY evidence that each RT companion was written with "representative of a faction" in mind or is that your theory that you decided was true
>>543947878Hey baron u remind me of this dude I let rawdog me… no you don’t look like him though. Hmm since ur still simping while im ugly and no one else likes me I guess ill give u a chance.
>>543947871Cuteness. Loyalty. Affection. Banter.
>>543947871CuteSmall SneakyCharisma based class
>>543948000She really mindbroke you huh
>>543946850>Too bad it makes absolutely zero fucking sense to recruit him and keep him around.this always rustles my jimmies when games add companions like this
what's Yrliet's faction and how should she have been written
>>543948084you have to be mindbroken to defend her
>>543948304CraftworldWise and friendly. Definitely no racism because her people have moved beyond that
>>543948424>Yrliet but without the racismsounds boring, you probably eat your oatmeal plain with no seasoning
>>543948536Also she should have a friendship arc but take out the romance music so no one gets the wrong idea
>>543944052
>>543948304She can be racist that doesn't bother me. What bothers me how she doesn't change (only if you romanced) even after going out of your way to help her and her act 3 shenanigans
You love Imoen but hate Leliana. Care to explain?
>>543948735You personally help her out and she changes her mind about you (she even says so)But no one else helps her so why should she change her mind about them?
>>543948823You can fuck one but not the other (not without mods at least).
>>543948424Depends on which Craftworld.
how many roles have you played today
>>543948850>she changes her mind about you (she even says soNot in my game. The bugs made sure of that. She can be racist to the team thats fine, they hate her back.
I wish we had this level of sophisticated discourse again
Never played Rogue Trader before, I hate when my character overlap with a companion what would be a nice build for a dogmaticp laytrough? I kinda want the techpriest and the elf in my party
>>543949106>She can be racist to the team thats fine, they hate her back.You are surprisingly open minded for a mon'keigh
>>543948823Leliana is boring as fuck.Imoen went from your cheery childhood friend that were with you right at the beginning to being emotionally traumatized and finding out she's a bhaalspawn and your sister. There is more going on there.
>>543949326Pyro PsykerOr Officer Arch-MilitantI don't really know, I'm retarded
One one hand it would be funny playing as some dude who managed to make some "non binary" giga dyke fall in love with a man. On the other hand Taash is so fucking ugly I just can't.
>>543949549>playing veilguardwhy
>>543949549>managed to make some "non binary" giga dyke fall in love with a manThis is why people like Yrliet btw
>>543949326If you have DLC, Noble or Psyker Officer into Overseer with skull swarm if you wanna a persuassion leader character that buffs and commands allies
>>543949549>we went from Sten, to the Bull to TaashThey did that race so fucking bad, holy shit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlXZ-snZlnE
>>543949734Adding to this anon, the eagle is a fun high damage pet too
>>543949734What if I want to be a cool sniper?
Slavfriends, give your best borscht recipe.
When you take the skull Yrliet gets mad, but if you don't recruit her and take the skull, its the only reason she joins you later.
>>543949924No. I hate borsch
>still no master tactician buffsSometimes I wonder if I'm playing the same game.
>>543949921Assassin is the best second tier archetype for that You can put out tremendous damage if you pay attention to how the talents work
>>543949921If you're the same anon, the elf is a great sniper now if you want her in your party
>>543948041when you put it like that we need more little sister companions tbqhf
>>543949549not a crpg>>543949924worst recipe to ask for, instead you should be looking for ikra or kvass or pirozhki secrets
>>543949951>Joins because the skull proves that Muaran considered her expendable Sounds like a well written character with different reactions depending on circumstances
>>543950224>immediately starts posting a literal childVery subtle, pedo
>>543950030>still no buffs for the highest dps in the game
>>543950169aw shit, two snipers?
>>543945628Vulkans were basically that. Star trek did it since the 60s.
>>543950332nanako is based and pure
>>543949951>>543950294QRD?
>>543949729They like Yrliet because she actually feels alien in terms of culture and how she thinks. Because her romance isn't the same old mad dash to have sex. Because she's a strong willed character that has a proper arc and isn't just a piece of clay for you to mould like Cassia or Kibellah.Yrliet's writing has problems and isn't perfect, but she's sure as hell more different and interesting than most Owlcat companions.
Space but without the aliens it's just the humans
>>543950542starfield and it sucked
>>543949734isn't officer a boring class?
>>543945628Jack Vance did it and he is a good writer.
>>543949921Operative -> Assassin Operative got buffed with the latest patch, it's really good.This is the same build as Yrliet so if you're bringing her there will be two of you. But you can build yourself to be more lore based for being cool and passing skill checks
>>543950438I guess you could, they added a bunch of Eldar snipers in this patch.Usually snipers are either operative assassin or operative bounty hunter. Didn't try out soldier bounty hunter>>543950620Imo no they are support buffers, but that's fine. You order around your crew to demolish the enemy
>>543950438snipers are the designated debuffers anyway. 2 doesn't hurt but idk if you want that to be your MC.
>>543950695How did they buff operative?
Jae is strong, what are you talking about.
Kingmaker but in space
>>543950827they didn't anon is a lying shit eating owlsubhuman as froggvs would say
>>543950946Starfinder
>>543950504You can get an elf skull on Janus from a guy If you show this to Yrliet at her little gazebo house she gets justifiably upset (doesn't run away or anything, just goes "wtf elantach where did that come from")But if you conceal it till later you can produce it dramatically during the confrontation with Muaran. He admits that it belongs to the previous elf he sent to the governor's estate before Yrliet so she goes>Wait they always knew? I could have been killed at any moment!to which he replies>Yes, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make
Should I play Wrath of the Righteous or Rogue Trader first?
>>543950946Just play Stellaris, Paradox's only good game (unless you're a history autist then include some of the CK/EU games)
>>543950827Made the exploits work differently. They're more useful now
>>543951090nta but>subscription based single player gamecan't bring myself to do it even though it seems rad
>>543951056Rogue Trader.Every time I play Wrath I stall out at Alushinyrra, the game just becomes completely boring despite that place arguably being the most interesting.
>>543951219The subscription is optional I thought, its just a way to rent DLCs if you don't want to buy them all. Either way I haven't played it since before they did the sub thing, so I don't know if they actually did pull a retardedly greedy EA-move like that.
Of course, I grieve for the common people as well
>>543951201so it's not bad if my MC is a sniper operative as well? with idira and pasqal in the team
>>543951090>Just play StellarisYou mean Endless Space 2. Which is better and even slightly more of an RPG at least.
>>543950909I have her a bolt pistol from the ruined camp at the second Marazhai encounter that always crits on single shots, and items that make single bolter shots never miss, and the next shot after a crit cost zero AP and never miss, then I put a deldar hand canon in her offhand So she gets three shots that can't miss and does major damage
>>543951493Endless Space 2 was okay, but I prefer RTwP that Stellaris offers.
>>543951483Yeah it's fine. I did that one run and I didn't mind having two snipers (me and the elf). You can use different rifles from her
>>543951810noice thanks anon
I don’t care for the cause of the crusade at all. I am just gathering power influence instead of being some soiboy iomadae worshipper but nobody complains? Not sure if I can believe this.
>>543951034>to which he replies>>Yes, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to makeIt's hilarious in hindsight. elf fuckers love to screech about how eldar are not like humans at all, yet this here faggot acts exactly like a human
>>543951965The real heroes are Irabeth and Anevia. If your character steps too out of line as a puppet/figurehead, Anevia would act. It just doesn't work out that way if you do because you end up getting mythic powers.
>>543952054That's the part I like best about them. They have no self insight whatsoever.
>>543951243I see, no love for wrath at all? Anything I should know before diving in to RT?
>>543952098I fucking clawed irabeths face. She wasn’t standing up to anybody, let’s be real
>>543948304Craftworld aeldariWise and with a (merited) superiority complex and disdain of minorities (you) but not pants on head stupid and sourgrapes like she is
>>543951483Dunno about sniper specifically, but you wanted multiple operatives if possible to spread exploits passively anyway.
The monkeigh's inferiority complex flares up again and lashes out at his superior eldar
>>543949921Everyone saying assassin hasn't played it in 2 years, bounty hunter is the better optionIdeally you download the reworked operative mod so the archetype can actually function though
>>543950695>>543950809How about Operative Overseer to be le cool edgy sniper with a vulture pet?
>>543952467Overseer is useless if you're not a psyker who wants to buff the party (no it's not good for damage psykers unless you megacope about it getting good 200 hours in when you get to heroic turn 1 for free) or an officer who wants to give out more extra turns (even then for an officer other options might be better)The pets are just... bad. You can't gear them out and buff them like party members.
>>543952197>no love for wrath at allI like the first act. And I like it on paper, I did keep going back to try to respark it, but once I get to that mid-point it starts requiring effort to want to keep playing it and that's not really something you want to feel when playing a video game, I think. Maybe its just me.>RTIf you pick psyker as your class you won't be able to become an unsanctioned psyker later, which is better than normal psyker. The DLCs are decent also, especially Kibellah, which adds a lot of good genestealer story content.
>>543952467Sniper doesn't really come into its own unless you go assassin. Not sure how an operative overseer would play outOne idea would be to take Operative -> Assassin for yourself and Operative -> Bounty Hunter for Yrliet. That's an interesting class for variety. And the abilities for Bounty Hunter all sound pretty elfy
>>543952467No you won't deal damage, for that go Bounty or AssassinOverseer is good for officers and psykers, the skull swarm and psybird are the good pets for that.
>>543952678Psyker armor + an unsanctioned psyker like idira in the party to proc shit is way better than being unsanctioned yourself unless you're in it to win it (don't mind the perilspam)
>>543952626>The pets are just... bad.The more I learn about this game, the less liberty of build I have.I wanted to make a cool Tallarn sniper but someoen told me Death Worlds were shit for snipers
>>543952467If you are a non pyro psyker or officer, overseer is good.Otherwise, nah.>>543952768Bounty hunter crit stacking, multiple shits at prety and having extra attacks as well is also good for big single shots
>>543952846Your world choice is pretty much entirely fluff, it literally never comes up once, treat it more like a mechanical choice than a roleplaying one to be honest, since it might as well not exist.Death world just doesn't really give you anything you want if you're not melee, it's handy for the starting stats and for the extra 20% dodge, but you're a guy shooting people with a gun
>>543949924My usual Borschtsch recipe consists of:-white cabbage (cut or shredded)-onions (diced)-red beets (diced)-potatoes (diced)-minced meat seasoned to taste and formed into balls of 3 cm diameter-garlic (sliced)Heat clarified butter in a pot, toss minced meat balls into the butter and carefully let them brown. Add onions. After a while, add beets, potatoes and cabbage. Fill with beef or vegetable broth until everythings covered. Add a table spoon of white vinegar. Add garlic, a couple of leaves of laurel (important!) and ground pepper. Bring to boil, turn down the heat and let simmer until cabbage, potatoes and beets are soft enough for you.Serve with sour cream or smetana if you get it.I'm half-polish, btw, so no original Russkii Recipe
>>543952626>The pets are just... bad. I wouldn't say that. I gave Jae an eagle and it was a major damage dealer and assisted her main officer role>>543952846Absolutely not true. People are quibbling over highly optimised builds. Just build what you like. Death world sniper sounds fine. You can respec by talking to a guy on the bridge, and choose a different archetype.
Pathfinder WotR is the opposite of Deadfire to me.WotR starts strong and becomes a boring slog. Deadfire starts as a boring slog and picks up the more the game opens up and you upgrade yourself.
>>543952846There is a difference between technically viable, actually synergistic and minmaxing.Almost everything is viable cuase this game is not hard, especially if you use your party properly.But Death world is mostly for specific melee builds and overseer is for officers and psykers, while operative is technically the weakest first tier archetype.So doing that mix is maybe the least fun you can have
>>543952968>Your world choice is pretty much entirely fluff, it literally never comes up once, treat it more like a mechanical choice than a roleplaying one to be honestOk I worded this retardedly but you get what I mean>>543952992CuteI want to learn russian because all the russians I've met online are cute and nice, I'll make that sometime>>543953003>I wouldn't say that.I would though... like, the pets have a "hard cap", on unfair they're really terrible (the eagle just dies if you ever use obstruct on shit for example) but even on core and whatnot they're just kind of... middling, IMOThe eagle can do "respectable" damage but you could just have... a functional second archetype instead
>>543953024I liked Deadfire all the way through, actually, the mid-point was strongest for me. I haven't tried the DLCs though, are they worthwile?
>>543952968>>543953003Soooo since the world isn't important, what would you advise? and for origin a crime lord I guess?
>>543952846Overseer is good. Pick whatever you want and have fun
>>543952992>schtschWhat a sequence of letters
>>543953248>for origin a crime lord I guess?Yep. This gives a few neat reactions and even saves you money once I guess hive world would be good. But if you prefer death world for rp reasons that's totally fine
>>543952846Almost everything in the game is viable, it's just that some things are so insanely broken it makes normal viable stuff seem "weak" when it isn't.Yrliet and Pasqal both work best as single shot ranged units (plasma for Pasqal, Aeldari snipers for Yrliet) so just in terms of gameplay variation I'd say you'd probably want at least the protag or Pasqal/Yrliet to not be single shot long ranged if you plan to use all 3 at once. Otherwise rotating between Pasqal and Yrliet between missions would help. Or make Yrliet focus more on burst Aeldari guns.
>>543953434I think I'll stick with hive world crime lord then, that's not very Tallarn-y but if it's not really mentionend in dialogs who cares
>>543953248I've done theorycrafting and buildtesting (on an act 3 bossfight) of pretty much every way to build operative, it has some decent freedom (I'd still recommend the mod that makes it not as weak as it is honestly but it sounds like it's your first playthrough so I get why one wouldn't want to, I don't mod for my first time either)For world, fortress is the clear best, hands down. It gives you extra ballistic and perception with combat addict, it gives you a free reload, it lets you stack it's passive that gives you a chance for 1 free attack on your following turn, it's essentially the premier gunslinger world choice. As for origin, crimelord is the one that gives you the most out of them besides psyker. Psyker has a lot of broken items in the game but some of them just feel.. cheesy, for guns (attack up to your psy rating in the first round? sounds like something a mod would do, eh), but some passives are also rather good, like being a pyromancer psyker and getting access to fire within for extra free attacks and shit
For dark heresy crimelord psyker or ministorum psyker?
>>543953487There is also the 'make Pasqal Omnissiah Axe maniac' challenge, but it can be a painful process to get his shit together, especially first run
>>543953186>are they worthwile?Beast of Winter is good.
Whenever I play RT I want some excuse to build a basic bitch guardsman with a lasrifle, but it feels like las gets outclassed really fast and is worthless longterm.
>>543953248What I mentioned about fortress world are things you can pick up by the way, they are not given to you on character creationThere's an argument to be made for voidborn as well, since you stay far away from people with your sniper you can pick your really good talents without too much worry (they affect your enemies too if they're nearby so you can help the enemy if they're close), and it gets extra INT for your operative stuffBut fortress world's perception buff is just really good since bounty hunter scales with PER, and I find extra attacks with operative invaluable since you don't have a natural source of them
>>543953626Noble Psyker
>>543953270бopщ is transliterated as Borschtsch in German. The щ is schtsch.Btw. щи, or Schtschi, is another very tasty Russian stew. Basically the same as Borschtsch, but without the cabbage. Instead, you add sliced carrots, tomate paste and paprika powder (and no vinegar).
>>543953730Burst las was already pretty god and it got better.Same for Astra Militarum origin
How many magic artifacts can I staple on to my character in RT? I'm like a magpie and only really care about how many shiny things I can horde
>>543953730It's an automatic gun, you're doing quadruple digit damage no matter whatThere's a ton of good lasguns in the game too, and the new astra militarum commander has an insane talent for those now (+40% firerate for being in cover)Also a new melee attack with your gun... I wanna mess around with that, I haven't yet
>>543953920>but without the cabbage.and without beets.
>>543953579>>543953841well thanks for the advices that was very helpful
>>543953920>щи бeз кaпycтычo зa хyйню ты гoтoвишь? B бopщe кaк paз ecть и пoмидopы и cвeклa пoэтoмy oн и кpacныe, a в щaх нeт
>>543953990Weapon(two sets, can dual wield for up to 4 weapons), armor, helmet, gloves, boots, cloak, amulet, two rings and 4 consumable slots.
>>543953841Isn't Fortress the defacto best for guns thanks to never stop shooting?
>>543954283Yes, I said that in my first post, you're replying to the one that's adding on to it
>>543954218Hmm, not bad. I want the character model to look ridiculous
>>543954202Polish, my friend, Polish.And the Borschtsch is plenty red, thanks to the beets.
>>543954417RT has some atrocious design choices so you'll get that in spadesAlmost every cape looks like shit
>>543953248Crime Lord Voidborn is my base build, it's not optimal but both the origin and the homeworld are just generally pretty solid at everything.
>>543954007Is that in the last patch?
>>543947161>Cats are affectionate and loyal
For a 50% chance to have your main way to boost your damage work as new executioner (force repetance) vs act 3 elite enemies you'd need to have 750 medicae btwIt's like this with half the save-based abilities in the game, they're either really bad and completely unusable, or enemies have 30 base willpower and never save vs your telepath stun
>>543954976>Daeghen stands next to the burning barn and the dead pig until the rest of the game
This >>543955010 is on unfair though, I forget to mention it sometimes. IDK how big the stat buff from the difficulty is.>>543954875Yeah they gave the usually not very good origins some cute and cool stuff
>200 medicae?... damn that's a yikes rogue trader that's only a -20 to the enemy's save... and they have 120... that's a 100% chance to save, so sorry
I want to toss Camellia into Saudi Arabia, Valerie into India and Linzi into Japan
Was gonna say "I want to fuck linzi" and post some lewdish image of her but she has 0 porn... wow
>>543955981PF in general has little porn, let alone good porn. Swarmfag's commissions genuinely actually comprise a percentile of all the lewd PF art.
>>543955754why?
>>543956117I've looked at his stuff sometimes since it has a lot of overlap with what I like but I get kind of autistic and upset when I see the bugs that make up the swarm in his porn pieces not being vescavors, at least in some they are
>Still wishing for more non-AI Jaethal /34/ thats actually decent.I did try generating my own with AI but it didn't come out too good.
Marazhai, but he sustains himself off working for the IRS
All the Pathfinder porn I've found are from DarkerGrey
>>543956503Yep, classic jokehttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/1ZSw4a71JsA
>>543946850makes sense no alignment
>>543953730>with a lasrifleLasrifles are pretty shit, they get outclassed by heavy bolters and with weapons that have higher RoF for clearing trash packs. Their single target isn't that good either. Hot shot weapons should really be stronger given how good they are on tabletop. Solid weapons are better for overpenetrations as well. The game is easy though so you can still faceroll the game with them. >>543954007>+40% firerate for being in coverIts not that insane. The average lasrifle has a 4 round burst, the +40% means that you add an extra 2 shots to get a 6 round burst in full cover. Your rapid fire only goes up to 10 rounds. Compare that to the heavy bolter which gets 16 rounds with rapid fire so it benefits more from muzzle velocity. Its also better for degraded defence.
so... why aren't these threads getting blessed anymore?
>>543946682she's cute and perfect and the best companion
>>543947786what difficulty are you playing at?
>>543957109It's an extra 40% on top of all the stuff you're getting from all your other gear, anon. And lasguns have a lot of uniques. The only thing they were held back by is the base 4 fire rate, which is now no longer an issue you really face.
>>543946682>not romancing herWhen Anevian shows up to tell you to investigate stuff, hard refuse. This way you never learn of what Cam is doing and out of sight, out of mind, headcanon she isn't a psycho in your playthrough>romancing herJust say your character is blinded by crazy pussy and don't overthink it. To properly romance Wendaug you have to be a retard bully, and this is easier to justify because Cam at least tries to pretend she's healing the worldwound.
>>not romancing herJust don't care, be evil>>romancing herSame as above, or like it if you wantNormalize doing dastardly deeds in the universe where evil gods will reward you for it as much as the good gods would if you were good
>>543946682It's very easy to justify keeping her around pragmatically as she's one of the most powerful people in the crusade thanks to your mythic powers and doesn't cause enough trouble to justify testing how cutting someone off of mythic powers may affect the campaign
>>543957268>an extra 40% on top of all the stuff you're getting from all your other geaYeah if you're stacking all the RoF shit the numbers get crazy but that's the case with all burst weapons.>uniquesAren't you just using the hot shot lasgun after you grab it on Janus? The 40% armour pen makes it the best choice imo. There's a new insane necron lasgun but I think that's act 5 exclusive cause Owlcat are braindamaged retards.>4 base fire rateThe qol of being able to fire 16 shots cannot be understated, especially when each round can reliably overpenetrate.
>>543947152Cute psycho
What do you genuinely believe is a great follow up game to play after BG3 that wont feel like is a major downgrade in overall experience?
>>543958026>Yeah if you're stacking all the RoF shit the numbers get crazy but that's the case with all burst weapons.Yeah I'm saying that lasguns now don't fall short in the same way they did because of the low fire rate on most of them is all>new (spoiler)It's been in the files since at least a year ago and you could toybox it in, like the webbers before the kibellah DLC :^)>>543958060Hmm well, that's tough. BG3 is by no means perfect or lifechanging, but it's the closest game that has come to "emulating" the tabletop experience, by using larian's game system... I guess you could play their divinity original sin games, they're pretty fun but nowhere near the "tabletop RPG" deal that BG3 hasOtherwise, nothing, pretty much. Most CRPGs are little dolls moving around in flat planes and clicking on the "click here to X" buttons that the game highlights for you. There's nothing quite like BG3 if you're looking for a similar experience. As for other good CRPGs there's plenty.
>>543958340>It's been in the files since at least a year agoOh yeah, BUT, it used to shoot from your feet
>>543958340They're so fucking retarded. The only good melta in the game is also locked behind the clone fight. There's zero content to actually use these cool weapons on so why bother adding them. I'd rather just not have them instead,.
>>543958060Theres nothing. Anons are going to hate this but BG3 reminded me of DAO the most.
>>543958618Yeah man they made a helmet to fix melta's retarded thing of costing 2 to attack (which THEY, owlcrap, chose to do) and put it in act 4 or 5Insane companyThere's a drukhari glove that lets you use 1 grenade for free every round, that's perfect for a cool operative or soldier RT but no it has to be an elf glove that only marazhai can use (he's a warrior NIGGA) for some reasonThank god you can use toybox to give you item passives permanently, I pretend it's some feat I picked up and in exchange I pick up like base skill: lore or something to represent it
is pillars of eternity 2 fully voiced
It's really strange but sort of makes sense when you get down to it, but the reworked imperial guard commander origin is actually really good for, wait for it, officer.Some of the talents seem designed to basically rely on you 1, going first (grand strategist), and 2, have your allies attack after you use Regimental tactics to get permanent buffsInteresting
>>543959235No, iirc the narrator is completely out and there are many book segments that are unvoiced. Regular dialogue is largely voiced though.
>Aloth rolls his eyes
>>543959378>the narrator is completely out?
>>543959345Or the grand strategist gives you a free turn where you pop the tactics.
>>543957112because you heathens aren't giving thanks to the attention yrliet gives you and instead talk about jaethal porn and valerie cuckoldry.
>>543959614Very good point
>>543958060If bg3 is the pinnacle of crpgs for you then the only good move is to kill yourself
>>543959850Then what's the answer anon.
Jaethal's maggot-y pussy
>>543959850why not recommend something for that anon to play, and for me to add to my endless backlog, instead of telling him to kill himself?
>>543959850Name three games you enjoyed in the last 5 years, I guarantee they're all shit
>>543959624I could talk about Yrliet cuckold porn too if that helps
>>543959515bottom
>inb4 "anything"
>>543959918I told you - kill yourself, that way at least one retard with shit opinions will no longer pollute these threads
the only games in the OP I haven't played yet are:>fallout 2>Necromancer's Tale>Temple of elemental evil>Underrailwhich one should I play first?>40kplan to play it but not right now.>wizardryno plan to play it so far.
>>543960367So nothing. Thank you anon.
>>543960382Fallout 2
>>543960382If you played fallout 1, just do the needful and play 2.
>>543960183>enjoyedwhat does that mean, anon?
>>543960382I've only played underrail out of those and it's fun
>>543960256I liked aloth in poe2, he seemed more mature and more reserved.
I really want to play Wizardry, but the lack of an actual narrative in all the games I've played of it keeps putting me off
>>543960527>>543960540yeah player 1 ages ago.>>543960548I guess fallout2 and underrail are bumped up the list then, I can delay toee, and honestly don't know anything about necromancer's tale, never even heard of it before.Thanks guys.
>>543960214Anything helps
>>543960863>honestly don't know anything about necromancer's taleYou're a guy (or lady) in 18th century europe who is called back to put his family's affairs in order after your father unexpectedly dies. One thing leads to another and you get mixed up in necromancy. Very light on combat. Lots of characters.
>>543960861im wizarding out aaaahhhh
i actually did play every game in op except jade empire
>>543961302little known fact: Knowing Glances are a codeword for freaky telepathic sex
>>543961443>Very light on combat.aka not a crpg
Severed hand is pretty nuts now (it being a toughness save aside)
>CRPG is when you fight creaturesI have to call Todd Howard
crpg is a made up term to exclude games from the 2005-2013 era of rpgs that were console focused (bethesda and bioware)
>CRPG is when there are lots of characters to talk toVisual novels might more your speed
>>543962120all terms ar made up, retard
The image that haunts the liquid shit filled dreams of 40colon kids
>Illiterate hates readingGloves really do fit.
I can’t believe Valerie does us like that bros…
Aaand valerie added to the filter
>>543962252bloodlines 2 couldn't reach owlcat numbers
>>543962468not a crpg
My shit could reach your mouth
>>543962338I benched her when I saw her character sheet. 19 con tower sheild specialist lmao
>>543961443>One thing leads to another and you get mixed up in necromancy.Thanks for the spoiler, asshole
>>543962252Reactions by retards like you on release day were hilarious >haha, 50% down>hah,30% down>haha,10% down>h-haha, 2.8% down
>talk to Yriel>she asks me for a meditation together>"sure">jokingly say "does that mean we can hold hands now">she tells me no this romance is over
who's Yriel
>>543962583The way he worded it makes it sound like it's a "start of the game" thing, at least
>>543962583Did you know that in Rogue trader, you eventually become a Rogue trader?
>>543962874Cassie's best friend
>>543961584>*knowingly glances at u*
>>543962803>made the mistake of not shooting the bitch when I had the chance>starts harrassing my love interest about our relationshipDumb bitch
>>543962874
Yrlieta
>>543962874The little mermaid.>>543962901>Not roguish>Not tradingIt's a lie.
>>543962901
>>543962874https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Prince_Yriel
Warcraft but in space
>>543963742legion remix going on right now anon
dialogue = combat for a dialogue heavy crpg
>>543963886debates are narrative combat - some fag that played DE, probably
>>543964020this is true and you're just illiterate if you disagree
Doom 2 is my favourite CRPG especially with the mod Project Brutality.
>>543961624psT is light on combat as well
Warhammer but in azeroth
>>543963742warcraft was inspired by warhammar fantasy
>>543962874Yrliet's mom
normal words, but a horse guy
>>543962803>jokingly say "does that mean we can hold hands now"I don't remember an option like that
>>543963093Gods, imagine those powerful hips and feet pumping her foot-long horsecock into you like a piston.
>>543953579>I've done theorycrafting and buildtesting (on an act 3 bossfight) of pretty much every way to build operativeWhat are your thoughts on voidborn operative?I liked the look of Be Smart for an int-focused class and Jinx seems like a pretty good support option for someone who'll be in the backlines most of the time, I've only just started but that 10% buff to everything is nice.
All this shit about "not a crpg". I'm not trying to be a pedant but genuinely asking, what makes a crpg? When I first saw that term I thought the C stood for classic, meaning games made in the same spirit and form of classic RPGs like fallout, arcanim, bg, etc. Later I discovered it stood for computer and back then it was mainly to distinguish them from console jrpgs.But the amount of variety that we consider " crpg" makes it difficult to categorize properly.So how do you define crpg or what aspects a game needs to be considered a crpg?Pic unrelated just some steamy goat hooves for the degenerates to drool over.
I think the origins in Dark Heresy will mostly be "normie" versions of RT's elite origins. Astra Militarum soldier instead of Commanderr, Hive criminal, Commisar cadet, Arbitrator and Priest might stay along with a few new ones and psyker getting moved to be a full archetype
>>543965020Reasonably based
>>543952846>Death Worlds were shit for snipersIt's alright-ish if you're aiming for (heh) using a lasgun sniper rifle, since Death Worlders get a crit bonus to laser weaponry. But I think it's not optimal compared to the fortress world.>TallarnMah man. Praise the Aba Aba Mushira.
why mommy nocticula boobs droopy?
>>543965125In the base game... eh. Very middling. You can make stuff work but I like making my characters self-sufficient (I don't use officers) and operative takes a lot of work and effort to get going as the game goes on (get going during fights I mean, you need to stack shit up to do damage)Operative into grand strategist is great, you can make everyone in your frontline unkillable and sit near your pals in the backline to buff them, tactical knowledge gives everyone armor, if you go for overseer instead the servoskull has some pretty interesting items (you can sorta make it a tank, but it needs to be buffed up to survive unfair though)Voidborn is neat and not bad at all, I just gravitate towards fortress world most of the time because I think being gooder at shooting a gun is cooler than a spaceman with rng hacks (and because operative is starved for extra attacks).
>>543965181for this thread, in the most general sense, it's games with dice rolls. you can talk about other rpgs but you'll get harassed if it's a shitty one or if a sperg is having a bad day. I reckon most people here have played most action rpgs as well but that's not really the threads purpose.
>>543963289smash
DnD but in space
>>543965125Oh yeah also, voidborn's greatest strength is buffing your... everything, yeah.+20% to crit from just existing is pretty nuts, your snipers give you extra crit chance so it's not like you have a hard time critting or anything but you CAN end up relying on RNG a bit if you're like an operative assassin (assassin has very good items that end up taking slots), the +20% is nice
a warcraft crpg would be awesome.
>>543965835More like DnD but in space (KINOOOOO)I love spelljammerNothing cooler than just fucking GUYS sprinkled around vast and unknowable places (reason why waterdeep and the underdark are so cool, there's just guys there, you go into a big cave far underground and you find guys there drinking, how cool is that, I love that kinda stuff, people being in places you'd never even expect, like kratos in god of war finding the last spartan in the fucking island of creation)
>>543965990Just play WoW solo
>>543966112WoW died in 2015
>>543965181vibe check>does this game remind me more of Baldur's Gate 1&2 or SkyrimSome things get an honorary CRPG title, like Morrowind (but not Oblivion).
>>543966257>legion killed wowHOLY fucking basetteTechnically it was WoD having no content for a year, but Legion really bastardized the game, so based yet again
Whenever I see someone calling anything unviable here it always becomes really obvious that they have no idea what it actually does
What do you desire from Larry?
backpack that let you survive death once per fight got... wiped? or maybe it was an accident? not sure if it works despite no description but still weird
>>543966590Pulls his helmet off at the end to reveal that he's a girl Like Samus in Metroid 1
>>543965181There's a set of things and the game has to have most things in the set but if it varies to a degree that's fine.>definable MC>a party>isometric>skills and skill checks>progression of character stats>alternative approaches to situations with potentially different outcomesAlso the vibe check that anon mentioned and not being autistic about the genre labeling for which there will always be cases that fail.This guy talks for like 10 minutes about it, and why it's a fairly hopeless taskhttps://youtu.be/4P4xJ34dmqQ?t=224
>>543958060Mass Effect Andromeda is a stark improvement to BG3. Once you want to move on to real crpgs though, maybe try Dragon Age: Origins or one of Owlcat's games.
>>543965181they may have words but they definitely have numbers
Whatever game I think is a CRPG is a CRPG, it's really easy
>>543966590How do elf psychics look at human ones
>>543967509Like they're shoving their hands into a campfire to pick up some embers to throw at other people, while the eldar mostly channel the warp through runes to not have to worry about all the side effects that human psykers experienceLike most things, weaker than them and a lot more reckless
My impression of what a crpg really is, would be a western rpg with a focus on defining your own character (even if the definition has a narrow limit like in the Mass Effect trilogy) and/or having a lot of variety of narrative choices (even if they're illusory, but not if they're non-choices like Fallout 4 where everything is a variation of 'Yes').Being first/third person view or action-adventure oriented takes points away from being a true crpg for me and I suspect for others, and this is the variable that tends to differ for different anons, and why some (not I, except for Morrowind) will say Morrowind is a crpg but Skyrim isn't, or that WItcher 3 isn't but Witcher 1 is.
A crpg is a game I like on the computer
>>543967712Cool.. I want Larry to laugh at my psyker
>>543967857To clarify it's more of a "you're a kid with a revolver and that's really reckless and dangerous" instead of a "you're retarded", they respect psykers a little more than regular people since psykers can actually "get" how the universe worksI said respect instead of like because the way humanity uses psychic powers is still very dangerous that they don't like too muchOutside of some of the most retarded marinewank novels out there (like space marines yelling their enemies to death or dodging bullets or whatever) they see gigapsykers like librarians as pretty much big psychic hammers, formidable but not up there with eldar psykers stillIdunno if he'd be too mean at you!!
what game has a lot of banter?i want party members to gossip, talk about the environment, each other, the big villain, me, everything
>>543956117Only about 14% last time checked. Probably more because I don't consider AIslop real art.>>543956484IIRC The Swarm is compromised of mainly locusts and vescavors. You can get spiders as well from a crusade event. Sometimes the artists have their fun and add some flies. I like pure vescavor rape too.
>>543968220Jagged Alliance 3
>>543968220I'm not sure because I don't keep a little black book with game stats on them to compare, but shadowrun hongkong has a neat amount of companion interaction since they interject during dialog a lot, and can give their thoughts about missions after you get back to the hub tooNot idle banter while you're walking around though
>>543968227>IIRC The Swarm is compromised of mainly locusts and vescavorsI get why locusts but I think that's very silly since your entire connection to the idea of a swarm that walks is a vescavor queen that infests your entire city, but yes I get what you mean. That encounter with the other swarm around the east of the map that you're talking about is nice, very cute. I really like the swarm path it has awesome writing, if it was one of the starter paths and had a fuckton more content I'd clap and visit Owlcrap HQ to give them props... alas.Inyouchuu introduced me to these kinds of fetishes.
>>543968592>the east of the mapWest*, I get the two mixed up
Swarm is just the pathfinder version of a worm that walks. Its still a good concept, though.
>>543967205
>>543968854It is!!! And in my 'obsessed with 3.5e' days I liked that monster a lot. Seeing it in wrath was really crazy because who the fuck thinks of a niche monster like that for your game? Very sick.
>>543968854they're usually the worm that walks in pathfinder as well
>watched some episodes of Columbo>got my sleepytime tea and fuzzy slippers>blanket I finished crocheting today keeping me cozyyep, ready to run some shadows
>>543966590why Larry? Why not John or Bob?
>>543968197>Idunno if he'd be too mean at you!!Hes an elf he has to be racist!
>>543969180Really? I thought it was changed in pathfinder to avoid copyright issues?
>>543969416His name is Laarthyr or something
>>543969734It was changed in Wrath to make sense with the theme of "swarm" with Deskari
>>543969951Guess that makes sense
>>543969734WoTC only presses copyright claims for beholders and a few other things
>>543969734Not everything is licensed
>>543969734I only ever really see wotc being litigious over underdark stuff
What is the Knight Commander's tax policy?
>>543970428Some retarded furshit handles that, the KC just manages the crusade until the queen steps in.
name a worse quest than dribbles the clown, I'll wait
>>543971984Nenios puzzles
spooky
>>543972736That's not how email inboxes work
imagine being snobby over what should be considered a crpg
>>543973623You’re not a crpg
dim sum by candlelight with Gobbet
>>543975460I'm happy that the noodle extruder from DeckCon has made an appearance in the bonus campaign, and am looking forward to seeing if that mystery gets cleared up. The security memos about it at DeckCon in the base game gave me a chuckle.
How the FUCK do you niggers play WOTR on unfair? Even using all my buffs I get steamrolled by a specter: can only hit with nat 20, uses a fireball that can one shot my whole party, summons 4 swarms which are immune to weapon damage and act immediately and instantly drain dex and nauseate anyone they go near. Who is responsible for this?
>>543977891Just cc it lmao
>>543977891Leave the stupid whip on the altar, its worthless without boots that provide a conjuror with 100% uptime freedom of movement. Pick it up only when you're done with that zone.
>>543977891Hey man can you not use racist slurs here? thanks
>>543969416immediately giving quirky chungus nicknames like that is a very reddit behavior btw
>>543978520We call Heinrix Jimmy
>>543978716because owlcat players are redditors, we knownow post a screencap of an exchange starrok had on r/roguetrader or whatever the sub is
>>543978716nta but I don't, the only one I sometimes shorten is Kibbles, since I forget her spelling. The Jimmy thing is 100% a tumblrism.
>>543977891I don't. Hard is the upper limit of balancing fun and being too limiting in build/tactics possibilities.Unfair is like Legacy of Bhaal, not really impressive or fun, and you'll probably be doing the exact same thing every time after a certain point.
>>543978520Tryhard reddit refugee post
>>543977937CC with what? It's immune to basically everything, and even with heightened spells the specter needs to roll a 1 or 2 to take the effect. >>543978178If I leave the whip, will all the specters on the map fuck off?>>543978367Sorry friend, I forgot this was reddit. I shall henceforth conduct myself with sensitivity to my fellow PoC and other marginalized communities. #FuckTrump #BLM #TransRights
>>543979052okay kid you have fun discussing Larry's romance and Bob's and John Rambo's
I am going to keep calling Larry, cope!
>>543979172You will never fit in
>>543979292You have to go back
>>543978943I'm switching to Core. Unfair seems like you need to be an ascended master with the game's systems and mechanics, or be forced to save scum. Crazy how Rogue Trader's unfair is the exact opposite.
The space marine companion should have been a rift stalker.
Is there a list of all the new Eldar/Dark Eldar weapons that the patch added? I still want to eventually play a melee Aeldari character but the old options are all over the place and limited.
>>543979593The PF games just have a steep difficulty scale. I much prefer this, where there's a very high ceiling for those who want it with the downside that some people get upset that they have to play on Normal or Core, over the approach with RT and many other games where they use the psychological tactic of making the player feel like hot shit by having the harder difficulties not be that hard.
I bet a lot of what turns people off from WotR is them believing that they "belong" on Core or higher, and then getting curb-stomped because they actually should be playing on Normal.
>>543979593It is called unfair for a reason. If you do not completely understand the mechanics and then cheese them, you will not succeed.To answer the original question though, I play on hard, not unfair, because the point of the game is to have fun.
>>543983072Core is ez just read. Hard without cheese is when you start entering the territory of never missing any experience because some enemies will hit you on a 8 or better and crit you to death on a 16 or better.
zesty Salamander companion with thick lips and beautiful hair
What did you name your court anon?
>>543979165>If I leave the whip, will all the specters on the map fuck off?yes
>>543984473Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
>>543984473The Heavenly Garden of Ivory Pillars
>>543984473Kangaroo
>Male Humans
>>543970428What's the Baron's?
I just hit 13 and only NOW got rage as a fast action. That is NUTS my man.
WE are all romancing her in dark heresy.
>>543988490>uglier than jae with a description that makes her sound like a jargon dump without the charm of an admechno
Overseer good
>>543988490Why are slavs obsessed with putting black women in their games?
Laarthyr Cairnareth > LarryRa'akhti > RickyConscript O-118-B (Cogg) > BoggHaymar Devos > Gaymar HomosEpione Spes > Spess
>>543989058What other slav game devlopers do this?
its Larf
>>543931109I can't wait for more OwlKINO.
>>543989058It's just owlkek, who may as well be american coasters
>>543989067I bet kroot will be called Raak
>>543989067Laarthyr Cairnareth > LarrytardRa'akhti > RatardConscript O-118-B (Cogg) > CoggtardHaymar Devos > HaytardEpione Spes > Etard
>>543989067>Haymar Devos > Gaymar HomosOh yeah this is a good one
black birdlady with an attitude
>>543989067>>543989304Laarthyr Cairnareth > Laar or LarRa'akhti > the krootConscript O-118-B (Cogg) > the ogrynHaymar Devos > devos or haymarEpione Spes > Spes, or token
>>543989834>Haymar Devos > devos or haymarHow original
>>543989958Where do you think you are
epipen spaz
>>543989958It isn't about originality, this is more likely what they're going to be called. Not some silly tumblr shit. I was being generous with 'token' too, its more likely going to be more colorful here.
>>543989640itty bitty halfling with a bob
pov you're a breedable bhaalspawn
If the sassy black ladies they keep adding were fuckable then people would tolerate them
How much longer until dragons demand comes out.
https://youtu.be/G5VzItoXoFo?si=BTc6mvSfgeQp_QQu
As somebody who just started WotR, the visuals on area of effect spells such as grease and stinking cloud is terrible. The effected area always seems a good bit larger than the spell visual. >inb4 people call me a shitter because they have 1000 hours on unfair iron man
>>543991620You're either fucking blind or an idiot. The area of effect is obvious to anyone with half a brain. Here, I've highlighted where the spell starts and ends. Posters on here get dumber and dumber.
>>543991396>unrionically considering wotr the spiritual successor to the orginal bg games
>you now remember the nwn trailer with icewind dale music on the bg2 cd
>>543991620I wouldn't say it's a good bit larger, but I think it's reasonable to just be a little careful around the edges.I've always found it weird that casters can always tell the exact borders of their AoE with 100% precision down to the nanometer anyhow, so this doesn't bother me much. If you're running by some grease and cutting it pretty close, accept that you might slip. Otherwise, give a wider berth.
>>543989067Upvoted!
>>543992179WotR is the spiritual successor to Icewind Dale and Siege of Dragonspear more so than BG2.
>>543992532>Siege of Dragonspearkill yourself
>>543992645Sorry, but it's the truth. SoD even has the same lead author as WotR.
>>543992681KillYourself
>>543992532neck yourself
>>543991620>ironmannobody plays ironman on owlcat games
>spiritual successor>love letter to the genreany more unoriginal reddit catchphrases you guys can think of?
>>543993607The _____ killer
>>543990815
>>543993607>pushing the envelope (doing the exact same thing we've seen a thousand times)
>>543993607Calling anything reddit
>>543989834If he's playerflexible then he'll certainly be called Gaymar.
>>543991620If you hover your cursor over the area during a character's move, a highlight indicator will turn red to tell you that you're going to step into the aoe. As long as the indicator is yellow you're safe.
>>543993859>>543994002Nice>>543994009Okay Hal
>>543993607A return to form for those who love classic crpgs.
>>543994063That's not true.
>>543931109Owlcat pathfinder games. Terrible encounter design and nonsense monster changes on what's supposed to be core difficulty.
>>543931109>What is the worst crpg you have ever played?Shadowrun Returns.
who else is high af right now? the secret of weepstone demo came out the art style is cool time to see if the game play is fun.
When are we getting a superhero crpg? And no, Midnight suns doesn't count.
>class, elfis this old school dnd rules?
>>543995983Nixon did nothing wrong
Kind of a ridiculous male fantasy how Imoen is completely devoted to you, her brother, and never shows romantic interest in anyone
>>543995770Outside of Marvel and DC capes aren't that popular, and licensing Marvel and DC isn't a guarantee for success, see every Marvel/DC game that isn't Spider-Man and even those game underperform. Other cape properties are doing well enough that we may see adaptations of them, like Invincible and The Boys. But do you really want an RPG set in the fucking BoysOriginal cape RPGs are too big a risk I imagine
>arue accurate representation
>>543996326Tbh I think a freedom force remake would be a colossal hit.
What will be the most fun origin+class combo in dark heresy?
My class is pretty much dwarf irl.
>>543996591A remake would imply getting rid of the Jack Kirby aesthetic which would be blasphemous
>>543991620The standard coping mechanism is to just be immune to whatever effect is being cast>brap cloudDelay Poison, Communal>greaseSelective Metamagic (the description lies, it actually works with all AOE spells, not just those with instant duration)
>>543931109>What is the worst crpg you have ever played?Pillars of Eternity. It's so boring, both encounters and story.
All this Sorin Markov art I'm finding would be perfect for my Lich run but I don't think I could divorce myself from the fact that it's Sorin Markov
>>543997654Vampire lords>>>>liches.
>>543997701There is a certain je ne sais quoi to vampires that old bones lack it's true
>>543997814Vampires are just scarier than liches. A pridomorial ancient lich just sits in there cave conducting experiments all day. A pridomorial ancient vampire is draining gallons of blood a day while doing a ton of complex political manipulation in the background.
>>543996326>like Invincible Image comics has a ton of other cool characters like spawn and stuff
>>543988490it looks like she has a different portrait in game
Wish crpgs would have more vampires as companions or something, they're cool
Im shocking these blackwater fucks and they still refuse to die.
Dark heresy should have a custodus companion.
>>543998081It's true that vampires are more proactive than liches because they're social creatures. Though whenever a lich is roused to action it should be multitudes more powerful than a vampire>>543998492Well if Owlcat ever makes a Warhammer Fantasy RPG like they've hinted I could definitely see vampire being a possible evil route alongside Chaos. The Empire is constantly warring with the Von Carsteins so siding with Mannfred would be a good evil path
Dark Heresy more like pooey toilet
>>543998492Only if they are written and designed very well. Astarion had a great story and VC but the romance writing ruins it all.
My class is pretty much adventure irl.
Ogryn should have been a background for RT
>the next two dlc companion wont be romancable Are we finally getting more xenos in rogue trader?
>>543997654I've fallen down a pinterest rabbit hole and now it's gone from recommending Sorin to Arthas
Idira=ViperArgenta=Eminem
>>544000486Honestly an Ork is all but confirmed. Orks are main villains of 11th edition and are supposed to show up in piratebowl at the end of this edition even. And 4th dlc Processional of the Damned is close to Ork realm known for a lot of FreebootersNecron dlc companion is an enigma tho
Jae is into pegging
We should have played as Beckett in bloodlines 2.
>>544002039Even worse idea than the original one for bloodlines 2 congrats
>>543977891Mostly cheese and heavy dipping to get as many "number go up" features as possible
>>543997654Use a different one
Which studio is the GOAT of crpgs?
>I have hidden the truth from you>A calamity is coming but I will not tell you specifics>Have some patience and trust meI wonder how many people would have killed her if they didn't know she was a companion.
>>544003507What are you talking about nigga
>>544003672Probably seething about /ourgirl/
>>543978716Jimmy was natural. """""Larry""""" is a cringe tryhard attempt at making the same impact as one anon's dumb joke
>>543997814Sex. the je ne sais quoi is sex
New naval officer is so much fun
>>544004218I'm not saying or typing "Laarthy'yr" or whatever
>>544005268>Laar, do not redeem, DO NOT REDEEM THE SOULSTONE, LAAR!
>>544004218Seething about it this much is just going to make people use it more
>>544005530>peopleit's one autist trying to force a meme
>>544004546Liches can be sexy
>>544003279But is Edgar sexier than Sorin
Larian=LeBron James Owlcat=Stephen Curry
owlcat=larry birdi.e. white
Why is there so much freemason imagery in owlcat games?
>>544007246You trained yourself to notice. It's over for you, you can never unsee the fnords.
>>543997814>je ne sais quoistart speaking english on an english board
Larian = Norm MacDonaldObsidian = Joe RoganOwlcat = Rodney Dangerfield
your post = off-topic
Larian = NenioObsidian = JimmyOwlcat = Yrliet
The big question is what will be the Abelard of Dark Heresy?
>>544013391Larry will be Jeeves to our Wooster
>>544013391I'd say an unrevealed companion.
I don't want to stop a playthough midway, but every time I think about playing more WOTR I lose are motivation to play itI suppose two full playthroughs was enough for me to get my fill of WOTR and its combat
This + Total War 40K and Space Marine 3 = 40Kfags are eating good next two years
>>543952846It's not limited. You can beat the hardest difficulty with a death world sniper quite reasonably. People have a tendency to exaggerate. You can even just choose imperial world, which lets you choose a simple +10 to any nonweapon stat if you're ever in doubt, and fortress world is also great for snipers. Homeworld is one of the less impactful choices. Stat distribution, origin, and archetype all matter more.>>543995770Capes is a trpg.Midnight Suns does count.>>543968220dragon age mass effect, and bg3>>543958060divinity original sin 2. Same developers on the same engine.rogue trader is another good contemporary crpg with turn based gameplay, but you'll miss the 3d environmental interactions and graphics and cutscenes.dragon age and mass effect franchises are both good crpg that have an emphasis on graphics and visual presentation and they're 3d games.Most crpg are 2d or 2.5d and have significantly less budget for visual presentation, so the answer is nothing if you're really looking for something that does everything bg3 does, but there are plenty of games that check some of bg'3 boxes. Solasta is a good 5e simulator, and the upcoming Solasta2 looks like it will be a good 5e simulator with actually good graphics, which means it will cover at least many of the same bases as bg3.
>>543995770This had unironic cuckshit in it. The bitch in the pic cucks her BF with youand you with him
you posted some real incorehent dribble about owlslop during ESL hours
Larian = /lgbt/Obsidian = /vg/Owlcat = /lit/
>>544016406>cultured and artistic>low-quality shitposters>pretentious drivelsounds about right
Will the fact that Dark Heresy has full VA help sales?Imo Dark Heresy being a more popular TTRPG than Rogue Trader is the more important factor.
>>544016772>Will the fact that Dark Heresy has full VA help sales?no>Imo Dark Heresy being a more popular TTRPG than Rogue Trader is the more important factor.no
>>544016772>full va>*looks at you in disbelief*
>>544017021Yeah the dialogue is voiced, not the action narration.
Is the new Dark Heresy dialogue window an upgrade or downgrade?
>>544018036Though shadowrun did it first, everyone is copying disco elysium now.Though I personally don't care about ui so long as it's good from a quality of life standpoint and snappy.
>>544018036I actually like it.Not necessarily an upgrade, but it works well. Better for scrolling up and checking shit again.
Is Outer Worlds 2 a crpg?
no ones playing your babymode owlslop shillscrpgg is playing solasta 2
>>544021073yeah it's the rpg of the year!
>>544021320I'm literally currently doing a wotr and palace of ice playthroughs. There's room for both, bigot.
>>544021073it's a itmsiaprpg.stands for "I turned my self into a pickle role playing game"
i don't care if owlcat games suck ass, im still spamming them. fuck off native english speaker
Outer Worlds is a good example of a C+ game. It's not bad, so you wouldn't give a D or an F, but it's also not truly interesting or great, so you wouldn't give it a B and an A either. It passes, it is on the list of "good games", but it's near the bottom, and doesn't really excite anyone. You get to pass the class with the lowest passing grade.The story is ok. The character building is fine. The lore and backstory is there, they wrote some, but it's not enticing compared to anything in particular. The companions are there, and they have questlines, but I don't particularly like most of them, but don't dislike them either. Every aspect of this game checks the box for being not bad...but not good either.I think another example of this phenoma is Starfield. All the same stuff applies. Yeah, the colony war lore, makes sense. Ok it's bethesda gameplay with slightly better action, sure. You're just kind of saying "sure" over and over, but you're not excited. Not offended, not excited...it just checks the boxes and gets a C+, like a student doing the minimum to pass.In contrast however, you have truly bad games where you wasted your money and time and you're worse off emotionally from playing them, like Veilguard. I wasn't offended by OWorlds/Starfield, I just sort of played them to completion and had small moments of "that's neat" and then had no real motivation for a second playthrough. With Veilguard I had to force myself just to finish it, and I felt worse off for it.Then you have truly great games that remind you why this hobby is fun. The classic greats, kotor, baldur's gate 1-3, owlcat games, arcanum, planescape, larian games, old bethesda games, the list goes on. Where you WANT to play more, you WANT to learn more about the setting, you WANT to finish the story. A good games draws you and makes you excited to learn.People oft talk about good and bad, but the third possibility, boring medium, is sometimes worse. At least bad makes you feel something.
you can tell there's an unironic campaign of shilling from owlcat in this generalyou can't explain that games that haven't even released yet get way more attention than new rpgs that are playable right now
>>544021320uh-huh, is vtmb2 an actually good game in that alternate timeline you live in as well?
>>544022798in frogshit's bizarro world, the veilguard is an AAAA game
>>544022769its the future of advertising, many games include their discord in the launch menu where a 'community manager' content drips they made up to losers desperate for their parasocial fix - and this is supplemented by paying an indian company less than $20 a day for presence on reddit, 4chan, etc
>>544022769Nah I'm just a loser obsessed with 40K and have bewen awaiting 40K RPGs for years and am finally getting them. So I post a lot of the Dark Heresy info drops nd speculation. Idk about the other anons.I also shit on Owlcat for the things they mess up - like the balance patch and certain writing, so not a shill.
>>544022769Meds
Any news regarding Owlcat giving info on Warhammer day? iirc that day is today
This guy does a good breakdown of all the DH info we know so far from articles and owlkek interviews, so if you're interested in that check out the vidhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuZmmAcovLA
these jeets are fucking insane. this is for CRPG DISCUSSION not e-grifters, youtube videos, or reposting owlcat discord posts
>>544029968So far nothing on starrok's plebbit account. Idk if there are any Warhammer day streams/shows/events today, maybe then?
OWLCAT FOR FUCK SAKE REVEAL THE DAMN WAIFUS IT'S WARHAMMER DAY FFS STOP TORTURING US, JUST POST THEIR IMAGES AND SAY WHAT THEY ARE FOR EMPEROR'S SAKE YOU CRUEL SLAVCHUDS
>>544032687reveal everything but the waifus. I want to know if I can play as a blank
>>544016772>Will the fact that Dark Heresy has full VA help sales?I don't understand why people consider full VA a good thing. Voice actors inevitably read their lines slower than you can read some text on a screen and it makes dialogue much less flexible for the developers - they can't just simply change some lines when they realise they fucked up or to add additional reactivity for a patch/DLC, any change like that comes with a whole series of new steps getting in the way.
>>544035357the VAs in Rogue Trader already spoke painfully slowlyI don't think people realize how many extra hours sitting through all the dramatic pauses and [predatory chuckle]s there will be, or the unnecessary filesize bloat
>I don't understand why people consider full VA a good thing.Same. Like, can you niggers not read?
Argenta, but she's your flirty girlfriend
>>544035357I don't mind if it's good performance.But my main problem is it makes rewrites and adding content more expensive and a bigger hastle. And also DLC companions might be lower quality as a result since they will have to backpaddle banter with all of the other companions and possibly NPCs if they want it to be like in RT were Kib and Solomorne to butt in in some vanilla content to comment on things and do talk to other characters.But I guess it will be doable if game sells well.
>>544035982u, but on reddit and not here
I'd rather they did simple headshot portraits for all minor NPCs instead of full VA desu. The amount of VA in RT is good, maybe just vlice some of the other important moments like the Act 3 betrayal,trial and Yremeryss boss fight or the RT's Magnae Acessio
>>544035982owlcat would make her cuck you
The ultimate buckbreak would be them adding a romancable female Eldar in Dark Heresy, but making her mtf trans
>>544035735The sweet spot is just a bit of VA. The first sentence maybe, and not every single first sentence. It gives you a sense of the character without the difficulties of full voicing, which also include costs hidden to most players who don't think about it, like having to lock down all the text early. Why's this bad? Because it causes an aversion to complexity, since editing text is ezpz but calling VA's back in can be very difficult (scheduling, more pay, getting levels and tone to exactly match the earlier work, ...)
>>544036276buy an ad
>>544036614>b-b-b-but some players don't like to read too much!Then they should play a game on their phone where they touch colorful images while drooling on themselves
You guys just sit around making up scenarios in your head to make yourselves angry. Most of what you say has happened in the past didn't actually happen, and many other posts are just "dude what if they did [made up bad thing], wouldn't that be terrible?". It's weird, unhealthy, and worst of all pointless. I like to hope that most of you are just bored but the fact you do this every day suggests it's just how you are.
>>544036429This is kind of why I don't care about DH girls and just want news on the game's other things.
>>544037269>just sit around making up scenarios in your head to make yourselves angrywelcome to 4chan RETARD
The devs could have added a sexy Eldar woman dripping wet for human cocks and the game would have sold 3x more, but they added an ugly, stuffy, autistic incel who despises you.
I hope DH has no space marines.
>>544038460there are space marines in the trailers
>>544038908At least they're just criminal psychopaths instead of delusional psychopaths.
>>544038908as long as they're the antagonists its okay.
Something's not adding up about this girl, but we have our mission. Get her out and get paid, and deal with any surprises along the way. Well, any more surprises, since Jomo wasn't able to land the helicopter for our extraction.
Yriel actually likes me and when she says that meditating together helps me it's kinda cute
Abelard, another 500 profit factor into dogecoin!
>>544030539Based how he throws shade at Yrliet as the shitiest example of writing
>>544036568owlkek would never be so based as to portray trannies as unhinged psychopaths that they are
>>544030539Is this your channel. My Pasqal romance never happening....
>>544036187>branding yourself with a corporate logopeak cringe
>>544043743it's called ulfar
>>544043763Nah I was just looking for DH shit on youtube and found this guy, apparently he's a chink
>>544043763He's not interested, meatbag
>>544036187This is stupid. What is the company becomes shit later down the road and does disgusting things?
>>544044676
I just started act 4 in wotr. How much is left? How far through the game would you say that is? 60%?
>>544046576Act 4 is pretty longAct 5 is quite fastMaybe 65%
>>544046750>quite fastBy WOTR standards at least
>>54404657680% of the way done. act 5 is basically you getting one last mythic quest, wrapping up companion quests and then going to iz to kick deskari's ass and then its finale time
>>544046894>80% of the way doneInsanely retarded post
>>544046894oh just started yeah closer to 65. I'd say at the end of act 4 your 80-90% done, act 4 is pretty meaty compared to act 5
>>544046887nta but considering how much longer Act 3 is compared to all the others, by the time you're in Act 5 it feels like you're advancing at 4 times the speed or something
>>544046750>>544046894>>544047043>>544047038Thanks lads. Is act 4 as bad as everyone says? I’m already getting a little eager to move on to a new game so I hope it’s better than people say.
>>544047398Yeah, it's shit
>>544047398The peak of the game is act 3. its pretty much a straight shot to the ending of just nonstop dungeons now
>>544047398Personally never thought it was shit. It's a nice enough shake-up from just fucking about with the crusade, and it doesn't last all that long in the end. I'd even say it's a welcome refresher between Act 3 and 5Your milage may vary though, I doubt everyone who dislikes it does so just because they find the camera gimmick cumbersome
>>544047398I liked it because there was no big overworld map that you have to travel through and clears all your buffs. its probably less fun if you don't have metamagic extended buffs on though
>>544049248because you will be randomly shanked by demons
>>544047398It's a bit better than release cause you also get the DLC storyline clinaxes now.And a couple companion quests end in a very satisfying note.But yeah, Vanilla act 4 if you ignore companion quests has two undercooked missions and one big mission with decent start and bosses but tedious normal encounters
>>544047398No, the map mechanic in there is just annoyingIt's fun
>>544049475I don’t have the dlc. Is that going to make the experience worse?
>>544013936Battlefleet Gothic is Total War 40k
>>544050232No
Where's the new thread?
>>543931109>What is the worst crpg you have ever played?Kingmaker. Quit on day 8 irl.>>543932245The art department tried and did an overall good job bringing the top down 2d Fallout world into 3d. Too bad the subsequest entries all became bright and cartoonish.>>543932239>he actually believed in nonbinaryguard
The next thread should be a harlequin thread
>>544051074Why don't you bake it instead of feeling entitled to it?
>>544051621Why don't you bake instead of bitching?
>>544051774Why don't you reflect on your own flaws instead of lashing out at me?
>>544051865I'm not lashing out at you, you're bitching instead of baking.
>>544052032I'm not bitching though? whether a new bread is baked is completely irrelevant to me
big bro we need you to make a thread...anonmom and anondad are fighting again
>>544052119What would Sawyer think about how contrarian you are?
>>543942359the brutal treatment of elves was correct as they caused all the problemsloghain did ostagar because of mystery niggersthe maker isn't realdwarves were a side effect of metaphysical theftthe antivan crows were always rough freedom fighters with hearts of goldslavery doesn't actually seem to happen in tevintersten was actually from a backwater of the qunari that didn't update their dogmamorrigan had more lovers than trees in a forestvarric died and you're just being schizo the whole game
>>544052281>pfft, amateur.
>>544054243>>544054243>>544054243
>>543937575As a romance fag I'd rather in theory have 2 really good ones over half a dozen shit ones though
>>543940709lamenters
>>544052965Sounds retarded. Good thing I've skipped it
