Larry editionWhat is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>543724019>Thread QuestionWhat are your hopes for Larry in Dark Heresy?
>>543813491>What are your hopes for Larry in Dark Heresy?That he has sex with the female inquisitor
you lost to larian, owltranny
>>543813491>What are your hopes for Larry in Dark Heresy?That he impregnates the femcel inquisitor
>>543813491>What are your hopes for Larry in Dark Heresy?I hope he has a Spock/Kirk friendship with the male inquisitor
>REAL HOMOSEXUAL reacts to Ulfar!
>>543813491That he's written as well as Marazhai instead of as terribly as Yrliet.
>>543813814I'll admit that it's easier to have fun in BG3 from the get-go. WotR really makes you work for it, especially for classes that don't become viable until later levels.
>>543813491>What are your hopes for Larry in Dark Heresy?his peenus
>>543814380Every class in pathfinder is viable from the get go idk what you mean
>REAL two hundred year old man reacts to Abelard!!
>>543814651Besides bard and barbarian(the not urban kind)
Can Owlcat write a singular romance that is devoid of humiliation?
>>543814226Let's also hope he's not as boringly written as marazhai.
>>543814851What was boring about Marazhai?
>>543814380Every class is fine from the start in WotR. Some are better than others but immediately you get a sassy black woman who protects you with her paladin powers and everyone's favorite psychopathic shaman, Camellia. There's a few easy encounters with spiders and similar nonsense and then you get two overpowered archers too.
>>543813491>TQI hope that he's YnnariAlso, I hope that we will be able to gift him a gyrinx
>>543814991Didn't do much or really grow
It's been a while so it's time to remind everyone of the penultimate and objective Owlcat Companion Tier List, which cannot be disputed and is the total, whole truth. Throw Solomorne into forgettable tier and it's perfect.
>>543815007To be fair barbarian truly does not work at all early and bard could be deleted in place of skald entirely. Sensei monk is better than bard could ever be while also having mass true strike later
>>543814651Playing through Kanabras on core or higher as a low level caster class is torture, even with grease being busted. You have virtually no sustaining power, you're operating on a strict time-limit so you can't rest to replenish (or you'll lose companions/bad shit happens), and Seelah and Cam are your only tanks. It's enough where I'll spec as a fighter, then respec later on for a smoother experience. Even then I am doing a lot of save scumming, especially on hard difficulty where one bad roll can lead to a party wipe. I admit that I'm a casual though compared to most of the people here who play WotR on LA-Unfair.
>>543815025Yes, he did, his quest is the most impactful in the game outside of Pasqal and perhaps Heinrix in terms of character development.
>le trader of rogues>can't get a loli haremExplain it?
>>543815396>Starts a bloodthirsty cunt >Ends a bloodthirsty cunt
>>543815208>ember so high
>>543815235Yeah but the point is you're given OP companions to carry even the most retarded of builds, assuming you're not on anything harder than core difficulty
Noct should have a way to become cn without ember
Would a Solitaire companion be too powerful?
>>543815661What did you want, him to become something else completely? Your complaint can be levelled at pretty much the entirety of the cast outside of Pasqal and maybe Kibellah.
>>543815824How did he develop then
>>543815791Rape correction
>>543815208painted fingernails made this list
>>543815735Ember was pretty great. Who would you put above her aside from Regill and Daeran?
>>543815742>companions>OPDoesn't Owlcat purposefully give them shitty feats/stats? I know that most of the people playing on core or higher use mercenaries.
>>543815810Yeah. Owlcat cares about balance above all.
>>543815257Just at worst rely on mounted shield sohei seelah and buffed lann tanking market square and tower of estrogen. Even camellia can do fine, and slumber threatens coup on all enemies in act 1 effectively
>>543815208>Marazhai in God>Argenta in great>Kibbles in average>Linzi in good>Greybor in the same tier as NenioSuicide is free.
>>543815791She already does. Ember just calls her out while she's already planning on ascending
>>543815208I fixed it.
>>543815884Depends on how you handled his quest, but at the very least he realized he was just a little fish in a big pond with the revelation that Vect was playing him and everyone else from the start to punish his Kabal for daring to bring Psykers into Commoragh.
>>543816253>chud list>kills the chud wife
>>543816374>AAAAAAAAAACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK HELP ME NIGGERMAN I KNEEL I KNEEL PLEASE SODOMIZE ME PLEEEEASEEEE I DON'T WANNA DIE!!!!>chud wife?
>>543814991He was everything you expected a dark eldar to be and nothing else. He had no mystique and no growth. Incredibly flat character
>>543816467that's how most chuds act, yes. they all seek strongmen to follow.
>>543816126Are you saying Nenio should be higher than Greybor? I can see it, at least she has a personality. >>543816253>Jaethal in Eh>Nenio and Lann in SOULTerminal idiocy and shit taste confirmed, we're done here.
>>543816608>grrr... I am le... angy!!!!!Snorethal
>>543816113Slumber is pretty good for some of the stupider demons, like Dretchs, but there are still plenty of enemies with 20+ Will in Kenabras, so grease is better overall for its crowd control capabilities.
Give me an origin to play now that they've buffed everything
>>543815396>his quest is the most impactful in the gametry to take a cock out of your mouth the next time you type
>>543816580Yeah, he's a Dark Eldar. And as a Dark Eldar he's great and fulfills everything they're supposed to be. If you wanted some kind of subversion, yes, you would be disappointed, but why would you want that to begin with? He's exactly what he should be.
>>543816669Not him but you can raise your witch hex DC really high, I don't know how much of it is mods since I use the kinobased tabletop tweaks but you can legit get your hex DC to like 50, and then you can just go and debuff enemy saves on topI was experimenting with it while trying to make plague shaman not shit (it's shit anyway)
>>543816669Yeah but grease is a limited resource with the limited time to complete mechanic, slumber is infinite
>>543816608Nenio is objectively the worst companion Owlcat have ever made. She deserves her own tier at the bottom.
So melta weps are good now?
>>543816669>>543816830Oh I remembered why, witch hexes for some reason count as spells for a bunch of items, so you get the + DC from them
>>543816864>slumber is infiniteYou can only make one attempt with it per enemy. If the dice are not with you, which they often aren't at low levels, then you're fucked.
Have they or have they not chanhged noble?
>>543816749It is, though. Of course part of that is because companion quests are unfinished or missing for many companions, but that is an accurate statement. Only Heinrix and Pasqal have better companion quests than Marazhais.
when I was a kid I played kotor over a friends house every day for like 2 months and then his fat mom started being really mean to me and calling me weird video game related names. Her son was a way bigger loser than me despite being a smart kid so idk why she was such a cunt to me considering I was 12.
>>543817017So? How many greases are you stacking?
>>543816953They didn't touch meltas at all for some reason, but plasma has a bunch of new toys to play with.If you want to make melta weapons viable just toybox in the effect of the new helmet you get late into act 4 (LOL....) to you melta characters at the start of the game. Lowers attack costs by 1 so they're not just infinitely worse shotguns.You can give yourself the effect of this one pendant if you want too, where you get a free melta attack per combat, but I think that's a bit cheap-feeling.A lot of owlcrap "balance" decisions can be fixed by giving yourself the effect of an item permanently, like giving yourself the effect of these drukhari gloves that make your first damaging grenade in a round free.
>>543817017I got a slumber 10% chance on a1 succubus this run, rolled my eyes. Unlucky succ
>>543817017That's when you reload. Seriously, Eastern Euro games are built with the expectation that you will do some save scumming.
>>543816938She's not even a charcater, so she doesn't count. Yrliet is objectively the worst
>>543816938Nenio is pretty terrible but I'd say Yrliet gives her a run for the title.
>>543817017>which they often aren't at low levels, then you're fucked.Slumber has really high success rates early on before every character has a +40 to will actually>>543817148No but they gave it's passives and shit cooler icons, psyker too. That's all.
Is nenio the only backer meme companion?
>>543816775I don't want subversion. I want not to be bored out of my mind when interacting with a character.
>>543815208I almost agree with your top and garbage spots
A lesson I've learned from browsing this website. If anybody calls something "boring" without further elaboration just stop talking to them.
>>543815018I personally hope he is a normal Craftworld corsair so they have a better adjacent rep than Yrliet..hoping that the potential female Eldar is a Ynnari.Though I'm fine if he is too
>>543817506Maybe you just don't like Dark Eldar, then, since I didn't find Marazhai boring at all.
Yrliet slut-clone, but the only clue (besides the sluttiness) is that she can now equip Drukhari armor when she couldn't before
>>543817610Boring post
>>543817649Your idea of "character growth" is "he learns that vect was plotting against him"
>>543817610Everything boring is what they don't like
>>543817620The Ynnari have basically been written out of the setting at this point, all the major lore characters left the organization and only Yvraine is left, and she's starting to fall apart as well. GW basically decided the plotline wasn't going to work out so they are handwaving it into nonexistence.
>>543817863What was the plot? Kill Slaanesh through the power of inter-species love?
>>543817863But why they are popular on TT among the Eldarfags, Ynnari build is strong iirc
Larry better be our only elf companion.
>>543817858Exactly. They're like women who go "ugh I want dinner... no you pick... no not that place.. no not that place...", they want you to carry the conversation and discover their complaints for them.Not worth talking to.
I personally don't like her and I kill her every single playthrough, but an unrepentant serial killer who cannot be fixed or saved is actually a pretty good companion concept from a writing perspective. The fact that the secret is ruined 5 minutes after meeting her detracts a bit, but there was some serious potential with the broad strokes concept.Same with Marz. I don't like him and I kill him every playthrough, but on a conceptual level he does have a lot of funny lines, and it's always fun to recruit a villain that actually has a reason to join you (your mutual escape).Meanwhile, Abelard is one of my favorite dudes from every game and I am loathe to ever remove him from my party, but he boils down to "Did I mention I am old and that I was in the navy" as his entire concept. A few other people that I personally like but aren't particularly quality from a conceptual level are Arue, I think examples of characters that are both well written and I also enjoy spending time with them, I think Tristian, Woljiff, Argenta, Kibbelah, Pasqal, all come to mind.And then you have the 4th camp of characters, which are people that are not particularly interesting or well written, and I also don't particularly subjectively like them either. Ulfar, the professional, Nenio, come to mind.So if I were to make a tier list based on who I subjectively like spending time with, it would look very different from a tier list that I made from an objective writing quality judgement. Or else I would make a 4-way chart of quality and subjective taste on two axis.
>>543818030They wouldn't waste elf equipment on only one character
>>543818039My favorite companion is pasqal because he has a distinct personality (even if a bit tropey) and he offers a unique perspective (that of the mechanicus)My least favorite is probably kibellah because she has neither, she just yes-mans or acts like argenta (regular muh ayyliums n heretiks imperial worldview)
>>543818017No, kill Slaanesh by empowering their God Of Death with all of the remaining Eldar sacrificing themselves to it so they can escape Slaanesh, and hoping that it is enough to empower said Death God to kill Slaanesh and free all of the other Eldar. Of course, it would result in the Eldar themselves being wiped from existence, but that's a better fate than all of their people being consumed by Slaanesh. GW probably realized that they would have to write out both Slaanesh and the Eldar if they followed through on it and the former, and especially the latter, are still profitable enough that the whole plot line was dropped.
>>543817649I don't mind dark eldar, and there's plenty to be done with them without muh redmeption or muh subversion. They just did nothing with him. He just exists to be a dildo for the sexually frustrated femcels and that's it. The only good part about his quest is that you can betray him and forge an alliance with the a black heart kabal. And even that goes fucking nowhere and raises no eyebrows from anyone
>>543818039Do not ask Mintharatranny. You only spare waifubait if they are mega evil.
>>543818262Oh ok that's stupid
>had to nerf argenta when the game released because she was absurdly broken>do a big rebalance patch and somehow make her absurdly broken again
>>543818021Eldar have several powerful builds in the current edition, they're one of the meta factions so they've got many good options.
>>543818262>GW probably realized that they would have to write out both Slaanesh and the Eldar if they followed through on it and the former, and especially the latterNot quite, that plotline was by the main eldar writer and he's kind of pseud who is a little retarded so he took the wrong kind of inspiration from tolkienHe compares the eldar to the elves from lords of the rings in the fact that they're "past their prime" but while tolkien has the elves become more secluded and mysterious and rare as they fade eldarman just has the eldar lose constantly, to him "fading" is "not allowed to have anything work right"
>>543818192It will be the same with the Kroot.
>>543817863And thank God for that. Fuckers blew up Biel Tan to shill these stupid bastards.
>>543818409Argenta didn't even make it to my last party because kibella and a psyker bladedancer merc were strictly better that felt off
>>543818409They never nerfed argenta, she has nothing that sets her apart from changing abelard to a soldier and giving him a gunThey nerfed arch-militant because they gave it numerical bonuses in a game where you can shoot 50 bullets with 1 action, so a +5 becomes a +250
>>543818342>He exists only to be used sexuallyI never romanced him and I liked having him in the party.
>>543818342Why would dealing with xenos as a rogue trader "raise eyebrows"Are you stupid
>>543818453I am well aware of the many failings of Gav Thorpe. But apparently no one but him at GW is willing to even write Eldar at all, so the best hope for Eldar going forward is that they have as little material as possible written for them, since everything new that comes out just makes them look worse.
>>543818039I would be a cleric of pharasma because she's hot
I would mog pharasma because she escaped her universe dying but she goes reeee if people try being immortal and "cheat death" (which she did)Bitchass
>>543818556That was just the typical GW, (and Gav Thorpe in particular) bullshit of making the Eldar horribly lose and get fucked in any conflict they're ever in, even though it makes no sense any Eldar are even still alive if that's the kind of showing they have on the regular.
>>543818616It's the same thing here. They buffed ministorum too hard.
So KM has a time limit thing, does wotr also have that?I dont want to be punished for exploring
>>543819260Yes it has a time limit. A lot of them with the kingdom table thing. It will tell you how many days you have left to complete something.
>>543818935Cleric of pharasma is actually good in tabletop despite having bad domains and still separatist exists Fateful ChannelYour faith not only heals the body, it tugs the strands of fate.Prerequisite(s):Channel positive energy3d6, worshiper of a deity of death or graves.Benefit(s): When youchannel positive energyto heal living creatures, you grant each creature you heal the ability to roll twice and take the better result on a singleattack roll, skill check, or saving throw of their choice within a number of rounds equal to yourCharismabonus (minimum 1). Multiple uses of this ability do not stack, but they do reset the effect’s duration. A creature can only benefit from one instance of this channel effect at a time.
>>543819256They nerfed it too weirdly enough, you can no longer give flamers not-dogshit armor penetration with flensing faithSo weird
>>543819260Outside act 1 start the time limits are truly excessive and never worth considering. Act 1 will have a variety of events fail if you don't resolve them quickly, day count wise
>>543816253didnt read, you need to get some friends instead of posting and making this autistic shit
I cheated my alignment in kingmaker to get the lich advisor
>>543819260wotr has some very forgiving time limits for some very small rewards. You'll probably not reach them unless you spam rests. The secret ending does have a specific month you need to be in but you can literally just sleep your way to the next year to get that.
>>543819260You can get a game over on some quests, so beware
>>543815996Valerie
>>543819385>>543819596So its just for some events/quests and not some weird "You took too long, game over" shit?
>>543819675you could have just turned off dialogue restrictions but vordakai sucks so whatevs
>>543819662NO!!!!
>>543819757I know people trash Valerie for her romance primarily but overall she is just a terribly written character period. I have no idea if the writer thought she was supposed to come off as sympathetic or if he was just making fun of the very character he was writing but she's an annoying, self righteous, self absorbed and stuck up cunt. One of the worst companions in CRPG history.
>>543819836main story quests lead to game over
>>543820000They butcher shelyn with her story too, shelyn is a faggot (canonical but a female faggot) who's a softie, she'd never do any of that shit in-game
>>543819836Your game can end if you don't handle the key and major events in time. It's very generous though, even if you want to fully explore everything it should not prevent you from finishing the critical events on time unless you're resting multiple times over and over on every map.
>>543820159Yeah that's another thing that's retarded about Valerie, Shelyn is a sweet, Good aligned Goddess and Valerie talks about being in her service like she was under the Church Of Asmodeus or some shit.
>>543820000You have to be beautiful to relate to her plight. Sorry my ugly friend.
>>543820000Valerie is an ongoing woman moment
>>543818262I see no problem here, just make it a long term goal that is far away from being completed
>>543820168Does the game indicate how long you have?Basically I dont want to end up with the "quicksave death" scenario, where my last save is simply unable to handle the events in time and I have to dig up old saves just to have a chance, if that makes senseIf they game gives me a proper heads up on when certain things need to get done it should be too bad
Kingmaker's management is so ass, it made me stop playing. Im still at the Varnhold vanishing part.
>>543820490That part is kind of gay and annoying because I don't care about their OC or whatever
>>543820453Shit will start getting progressively worse. Each game ending event comes in the form of a major crisis in your kingdom, if you continue to ignore it, things will continually fall apart and you'll be warned this is happening. You have to be an absolute gibbering retard to end up actually timing out to any of these events as such, the game basically throws giant flashing red signs at you telling you to get that shit taken care of before it's too late.
>>543820601>OC?
What sort of feedback will Owlcat gather from their DH alpha? Just gameplay bug stuff or stuff relating to companions and romances?
>>543815007>psychopathicShe seems fine if a bit boring so far
>>543820490I dropped the game after that dungeon. Shit was incredibly unfun.
>>543820334nta but I just looked up all the writers for Kingmaker and not one of them could be counted as beautiful
>>543820898She's completely vanilla, really. Just a preppy girl-next-door type with a reserved personality and a house full of hardcore BDSM toys.
>>543820996Beauty is in the eye of the beholderSo go kill it before it fucking escapes
>>543820453The Ancient Curse (Part X) is what you want to keep an eye on. The kingmaker wiki has good resources on timings.
>>543820898She yells about le killing pipo
>>543821228>kingmaker wikiI hope this doesnt sound too retarded, but the quest was about wotr, not kingmaker, I just heard kingmaker had those death timers and wondered if wotr does the same shitMaybe im misinterpreting what you're saying and if so I'm sorry for having lukewarm IQ
>>543820893just bug stuff. Acts 1 and 2 of RT are basically identical to alpha, same with wrath.
>>543820996they write about being humiliated by the beautiful. you can’t relate to the beautiful, you’re the humiliated one like them
>>543821439No that was me being retarded. Mea culpa. Wrath's are actually pretty easy to ignore. I think you have like 3 months to make it to drezen and that's it. You get extra rewards if you make it within like 2 months or something.
>>543821616So just making it there is the timer I guess?I should mention I have barely made it out of the tutorial dungeon, so I don't exactly know what is what
>>543821442Oh. Well I'll skip on the alpha then. I'm only interested in it if I can encourage them to stop adding Idira-like characters and bad waifus.
Would The Lantern King even be a blip on the radar in WOTR
I haven't seen kingmaker past coronation. I'm waiting for seasons of bloom to trigger on my current run, give me a reason to keep going is the stuff after coronation worth it?
>>543821801When you make it to the first tavern they should be talking about an attack coming soon. You can actually skip that by clearing the city within like 3 days or something and starting your assault on the wardstone. I recommend you do the fight but you do you. If you're out walking when the battle is near you'll get a scene where some dude tells you to head back to the tavern so don't worry about that, the time constraint is only relevant for circumventing the fight altogether. After the fight you have no time limit to get to the wardstone iirc.Once you leave the city you're told to head to drezen. You have like 4 months to make it there and get extra rewards if you do it within 2. Takes no time at all to get there so again not really something you have to agonize over. After that I don't think there's any long time constraints just per-quest ones that they'll tell you "yo this shit needs to be done by X".
>>543821971he was in the DLC and no one remembers him so no
>>543822310Thanks budAs long as I dont arrive at a scene with a puddle of blood with the message "you could have prevented this by going here first instead of doing anything else" its all good
>>543822610Watch your rests. I say "3 days" but I think it's actually "3 days + rest".
>>543822381I don't remember that
>>543822381Which dlc? The roguelike one?
Hmmm?
im lowering the difficulty to story for Blackwater and no one can tell me not to
>>543821971Stat wise he'd probably be shit. But lore wise liotr mentions both the fey elders and aeons as being the only beings powerful enough to time travel. So I assume these elders are supposed to be super powerful.
>>543823060Use every buff you got and you can hit the enemies that matter, if you have a damage-focused caster it's even easierOtherwise just do what you want yeah
>>543822802I'm looking into Kineticist specifically because I dont want to deal with spell slot rest bullshitStill undecided on the actual power though, kinda torn between lightning, ice and fire
>>543822810>>543822896i wasn't kidding
Practical incarnation strolls up to your current crpg mc. How fucked are they?
>>543823318apparently he's strong enough to kill your archee
>>543823290Wrath actually solves the spell slot problem with mythic feats giving you a fuck ton but that's a solution for later. Kineticist rapes face if you build it right tho. Look up the composites and see which ones you like. For me it's plasma and sand.
>>543823396oh no, the other guys killed herthey had some fag backlash effect i didn't buff her for
>>543823318Lol
>>543822918New with 1.5Give it to Idira lmao
>>543823356Playing an angel wotr run rn. Still in act 3 at mythic level 3 so not that powerful yet. Add to that the fact that the nameless one managed to take down a literal angel, and thr fact that practical incarnation is probably more dangerous and deadly than the nameless one; I'd say I'm fucked unless setsuna shy can someone save my ass.
>>543823587that's like asking me to constantly party wipedid they at least change it so perils of the warp can't immediately kill you?
>>543813491his name is laars not larry
>>543823694>did they at least change it so perils of the warp can't immediately kill you?Not sure Try it at seeOr save it till later when you're more levelled up , so perils are not so threatening, or even useful 1 extra Psy rating is very useful at any level
>>543823318What was his gameplan here
>>543823694>did they at least trivialize an already trivial game even further?Kill yourself
>>543823587I second this Inject the warp directly into her veins
>>543823356>Abelard, inform the half naked barbarian who he has the honor of dying to today.
>>543824064lol, calm down
>>543824068Is that what it is? The logs are still the same.
>>543823318you know wrath starts like halfway through Kingmaker and ends way after so depending on when this goes down he might actually be at his starter level here
Is my extreme disdain for power level autism why wotr doesn’t click with me
I SERVE THE RUINOUS POWERS*Fires 13 bullets in the back of my buddies skull*
>>543824109Wis30+ planeswalker has probably seen some guns
Uralon and that Calligos guy SUCKS. Just awful.
>>543824109Nasty fight. Fucking hate it
>>543824673Maybe and all the buffing you have to do
Lantern King is a better character than any of the retard demons you fight in Wrath though. None of those demons have the capacity to be that unbelievably petty
>>543824739
I SERVE THE RUINOUS POWERSAnyone gonna care?
Uralon the Cruel? Uralon the Cool
Uralon the FOOL tried using his psyker powers against your favorite Rogue Trader (ME) - didn't work! Better luck next time, Uralon! Thank you for your attention to this matter. DJvV
>>543825304I never have a problem with buffing
Uralon the Stool
I swerve the ruinous powers
Why do people pretend bg combat wasn’t your mage buffs vs the enemy mage buffs?
>>543826404nostalgia
>>543826404Because it wasnt
>>543826404Bg combat was the most irrelevant part of bg and spells like invisibility actually getting you through areas entirely is nice
>>543826404Rose tinted glasses.
>>543826404bg sucked ass2nd had romances, companions, and first and still only to implement higher level spells like time stop, summon meteor
Will the origins in Dark Heresy be different? As in lower power level if we are an acolyte. Idk about nobles, astra militarum commanders, navy officers being drafted as acolytes. What do you think they will be
This is a MAGE genre. If you can't cast spells you're a side character and an NPC. If you're a virgin non-magic user you should be grateful your resident wizard gives you that +2 to AC and gives your whole party haste because without him you know you'd be fucked
>>543827062Ministorum origin but a different implementation has been confirmed.
>>543826517Next you’ll say that you also didn’t prebuff
Say I wanted to respec Cam because shaman is da big gayWhat would I turn them into?
>>543820000>>543820159>People still don't get that Shelyn is a neutral evil deity with perception filter that forces everyone to adore her
>>543821971He should have been the Trickster path mentor character>Fuck Nocticula's homo brother andthe faggot that thought people would be interested in him
>>543829126
>>543828885>schizobabble post + schizobabble imageuhh alright
how was kotor so based when Star Wars is so gay?
>>543826404>Why do people pretend bg combat wasn’t your mage buffs vs the enemy mage buffs?that's literally every single fantasy CRPG though, mages/casters being dogass broken and being forced to have them for either buffing or debuffing on higher difficulty, think BG3 is the only time mages have been really weak compared too martial classes
>>543829309it didn't used to be gay
>>543829316But pathfinder is the only buff heavy crpg bro…
>>543828741Keep her stats she can make a good dex meme or skald of any type. Shaman isn't bad though it's just kinda iffy on the 6-15 range. In tt they're the best crafters bar nothing and they get wizard spells so much better
>>543829316>mages/casters being dogass broken and being forced to have them for either buffing or debuffing on higher difficultyOnly DnD-likes have this issue. Other fantasy CRPGs don't bog themselves down with possible buffs. I'd like for you to mention any other Fantasy CRPG that has you prebuffing to the same extent as you would in WOTR and KM. Even NWN2 had this.
>>543829426>>543829309*pops on roll critical**opens a onions*HOP ON REDDIT BROS
so did they make it that you cant rape the whole room in one turn as a pyromancer bladedancer anymore?
>>543823060just target Will instead of charging in with your faceIf no one has the zap cantrip then use one of the electric weapons or coups de grace, ezpz except for that middle group
>>543831621Having a baleful poly hit on your party also sucks
>>543831252Yes
>>543826404It wasn'talso this >>543826517>>543827958>Next you’ll say that you also didn’t prebuffCorrect. Except for some longterm things like Mage Armor, Stoneskin, maybe Ghost Armor or something, they're all too short-lasting to bother with. Maybe you do one or two if you see something coming, but otherwise they'll wear off halfway in battle.>I haven't played BG but I have opinions about itliterally you
What does Owlcat do better than Larian exactly?
>>543818030There will be a deldar female. If you romance her you'll learn that she used to be from a craftworld until her human friend lost his temper with her abandoned her in Commorragh after they ended up there due to a mix up
>>543831829Extremely rare, in fact literally just what, Xanthir and Bapho?
>>543832062kys yrlietard
>>543832203Blackwater succ cast it
>>543831995*casts secret word on your lie buff*
>>543832023Make games buggy
>check Shadowlands>no missions>play my LoRD turn>argue on the forums>log out
>>543831995>Correct. Except for some longterm things like Mage Armor, Stoneskin, maybe Ghost Armor or somethingLmao
>>543832023Unbalancing.
>>543832604>>543832508Not an argument, I accept your concession
>>543831856damn, that shit was fun
>>543832767Correct, nothing to be argued when you immediately contradict yourself.
>>543833268>3 spells or so after a rest>AAAAHHHH THE PRE BOOFING NO NO NO NO NO
>>543830919maybe I just misremember, but wasn't buffing a very real thing in Pillars of Eternity 1,Arcanum,Icewind dale and DoS1-2? Haste is almost universally broken in these games and then you have flat damage enchants that can turn 3x your normal damage
Obsidian kino in less than 24 hoursHow we feelin bros
>>543833956Not to the same extent no. PoE1 had a sparse collection and DOS1 and 2 only had a few but to be fair, they were extremely strong when used right (Living on the Edge). They're not>different flavours of +to AC>Immunities and all its version>Resistances and all its version>The absolute list of bonuses to ABIt just doesn't compare.
>>543832023As a huge fan of both companies, I would say nothing. Owlcat doesn't do anything better than larian. That is not putting owlcat down, I love them, it's just the answer to the question.Owlcat has larger games, which has a certain appeal. bg3 takes place along the Cionthar and then the city. Meanwhile, all of owlcats' games take you across regional maps, and RT is an entire sector of space. But this is not inherently better, since you can put the same amount of detail in one map square or 20, the number doesn't really matter. and bg3 does have varied maps, since the grave area, creche, underdark, shadowcurse lands, and then the city all feel different, even though you could just drag your finger on the map across all of them in one motion.They're both good at making a fun cast of characters.Larian is much better at encounter design. Prior to RT, all of owlcat's encounters were just walking up to an enemy. There was no elevation, cover, or anything of the sort. Owlcat's encounter design was just what resistances and infalted AC to stick on the deamon at the end of a maze of trash mobs. Meanwhile, Larian actually has enemies taking high ground on roof tops, shoving you and being shoved off heights, putting water or gaps between you, and other environmental factors. and their enemies vary in what legendary actions they have. Owlcat massively improved in this regard in RT though.The other thing larian is good at is environmental interaction. Being able to misty step around obstacles, use the environment to circumvent doors/encounters, turn into a mouse to burrow through a hole, set a wooden barricade on fire to move through, etc. Using spells outside of combat in immersive, realistic ways is why bg3 is a step above a lot of other crpg. You can throw anything you can pick up, items have weight that actually calculates falling damage, all these sorts of things. Larian crpg have immersive sim elements and full 3d environment interaction.
You know that even by Eldar standards, Yrliet is solidly mid.
I'm officially taking a break from crapgg because all you fags talk about is owlcat owlcat owlcat owlcat and it's about to get worse with DH
>>543835148nobody cares, you autistic retard
>>543835416most of you are also extremely rude and mean
>>543835507have you tried not crying about owlcat and discussing CRPGs?oh wait, you haven'tyou just want to bitch, bitch, bitcheven though owlcat is the only studio actually making anything anymore that fits this goddamn general
>>543835507sorry. I just get so upset on the internet
How does crpg feel about hobbits?
>>543835885if you want to fuck this you're a pedo
>>543833956>maybe I just misremember, but wasn't buffing a very real thing in Pillars of EternityYes, you misremember
>>543835885Like every shortrace, they're pedobait. Probably why most rpgs never let dwarfs/goblins/halflings/gnomes/etc participate in a romance, either as an NPC or PC (see BG2).
>veilguard has taash getting with hardingit all makes sense now
>>543835885Linzi is annoying but tolerable, Nurah gets fed to Cam every time
Thoughts on companions you're not dating dating each other?On one hand you could argue that it's good because they're not just gonna wait for youOn the other hand, it kind of makes it feel like they just want to date whoever is available
>>543835885I want to fuck this.
Operative with the mod that makes it more fun + the new plasma changes makes for a real cool experienceNeat
>>543836681>Nurah gets fed to Cam every timeTry flirting.
>>543836937Anon...
>>543836778You're on a list
>>543836712it isn't allowedI am the party leader, my party my rules and my rules say I have dibs on the bitchesviolation of the party code is punishable by death
>>543837675What if they are two fags like Xzar and Montaron
>>543837675you're part of the menchildren holding the medium back
>>543838085they look like they already smell bad enough I don't need them running around with stale spunk stank>>543838223NPCs don't have rights or feelings, only I (The Player) matter sorry
>>543836712The developers should not be wasting their time writing and coding something so inane.
>>543836712>On one hand you could argue that it's good because they're not just gonna wait for youThis is only good in theory. You'd think that portraying these companions as actual people who have lives that don't revolve around the PC would be good, but in practice, games don't devote enough screen time for that to become believable. X and Y suddenly saying, "oh hey, we're a couple now" doesn't add anything to their respective characters. It would feel cheap because all the romantic development happened off-screen. Ironically, the best approach is still to make romance PC-centric. Don't include anything unnecessary.
Opening those bay doors and seeing Tali bent over for Garrus kind of killed any enthusiasm I had for watching NPCs get together
>>543839198Sounds kinda racist
>>543839198Have you tried meds
Physical kinetics or energy?
Its outhttps://youtu.be/hNzjY0-fPD8?si=Akuria4cfAUuaGJC
What went wrong
>>543826404>character creation>buffing>positioning>itemization>spellcasting>target prioritization>dynamically reacting to enemy action>manipulating enemy positioning>scouting
>>543826404because I cast the level one spell command and it solos 90% of the content for me. its still very comfy
>>543833956there where foodbuffs which could help push you over stat reqs for checks and I think theres a couple weapon oils that give you a tiny boost in damage but most combat buffs are being cast during or at the start of combat because pillars largely doesn't let you cast spells outside of combat
>>543839041Just have it be subtle, like Idira and Vigdis' changing friendship Or two characters always having increased morale if they're in the same party, or taking a major morale hit if one goes down
>>543840728Why do you keep bringing that game up every few hours
>>543840728when they first scrapped it and hired a new developer because it was so bad. paradox should have just canceled the whole thing instead of hiring a second rate developer push *something* out
>unironic dolly shipping
>>543841313because some people have been waiting for it for 20 years and my disappointment runs deep
Argenta x idira toxic yuri correction.
>>543841505awakening saved the franchise dollie shipping is a big market
Syncing wotr mods with my handheld and hoping nothing breaks that said wotr shits the bed on it the more buffs I have running at once Should I try bubblebuffs seems kinda cheaty, the "cheats" I run like tabletob tweaks just debuff me least I remove the no selective for non instantaneous because this is a video game
>>543826404First, prebuffing wasn't as mandatory, there weren't as many buffs, and they had a tendency to overwrite one another, encouraging you to cast a few important prebuffs rather than dumping all the buffs.Second, most fights, especially against mages and higher level monsters, revolved around stripping them of their defenses, or finding some chink in their strategy to trivialize them (see fucking up beholders with reflect). You weren't going to be able to hit a lich, even with all the buffs, if he had contingencied himself all sorts of barriers and immunities. Note that the enemy would also be trying to strip you of your buffs and protections as you tried to them.
Baldurs gate also had casting time which I thought was neat, sheild casts almost instantly while other spells have your dude sitting there for a few seconds before going off
>>543842170I do like that you just have to cast antiprotection spells more than buffs, stuff like breach is essential I've beat the game multiple times and am still unsure what the best spells to remove x protection are I just know to spam them on anything with a visible buff. Other than stoneskin which you set on yourself all the time or I expect my character to just die without it
>>543842326Yes, this is a major point, and why you actually don't do much pre-buffing. People who have actually played the game(s) understand this.
I don't know what an azata is but it sounds gay
>baldurs gate pre-buffing isnt as bad so it doesnt countBiodrones are something else.
Pre-buffing in any form is bad game design, another win for 5e CHADS not letting mage fags just solo the game.
>>543842170Honestly, I found the BG2 enemies to be far more intelligent than Owlcat's. The enemies actually seemed to react and adapt to you. Take beholders, who would refrain from casting spells that would reflect after they were damaged by the first couple of reflected spells. There are even some mods that make the enemies more intelligent, like beholders using telekinesis to try to rip your anti-beholder shield from you after their first couple of attacks failed.
>>543842781Scs does force you to place every possible buff on, but it still revolves to who landed chaos or sleep or confusion or fear first and protection spells are harder to reach because you don't start with them on 1, only 1 character can cast insect plague for anticaster and she's hard to like and doesn't get it til endgame. Real caster supremacy and non caster enemies are irrelevant
>>543843019honestly every complaint about concentration boils down to "i cant solo everything as a wizard so this is bad"
>>543843029You’re too used to playing with scs
It’s almost like people boil combat systems down until they sound stupid when they want to shit on a game.
5e has a considerable amount of non concentration spells you can precast, nobody plays like that because dms(usually) make easy content. The only ones that don't know they have stupid players that don't precast protection from poison or use heroes' feast even with a cleric lcvl 11+ in the party and only punish their players for trying to fight a boss with heavy poison damage because they're already lvl 12 and should have some idea what they're doing but they in fact don't. Same for anything with a paralyze, freedom of movement lasts very long and can be precast and would only get bypassed if a boss has a paralyze and a dispel
>>543843039>only 1 character can cast insect plagueJaheira? why is she hard to like? why would she have to wait until endgame when it's a mid level spell?
>>543841883Sex with tharja
>>543843437Faldorn. Jaheira doesn't get to insect plague iirc because of the split class I think she can't get to 9 druid
>>543841620we had like 5 years to come to terms with the fact that "bloodlines" 2 was a cashgrabI don't even think about it
>unironically liking fire emblem Play an actual srpg like xcom or something.
How bad is spell resist in wotr generally?
>>543843548lon'qu...
>>543843437I'm talking starting scs from 1, on 2 you have every tool available at your disposal
>>543843661you can't smooch xcom's dollies though
>>543843661its important enough that if you don't dedicate feats or mythic levels to it you probably won't pierce it. and even if you do you still have a good chance of rolling a nat one anyways and failing
>>543843661but im part weeb
>>543843724It's usually enough that you do need to take the feats against it, unless you're running one of the things that fully bypasses it. Later game you might have enough pen to not care anyways but it depends on gear, mythic and build. If you want to beat darkness on unfair in the dlc(not inevitable the other darkness) you want a specialized party of overwhelming elf sorcs to have as much spell pen and as many casts of baleful poly as possible because anything else is not passing the spell pen roll outside a 20, but the cases where it's that bad can be count in 1 hand
>>543843724Depends on your mythic.
>>543841481Paradox was deep in sunk cost fallacy. They didn't just buy the rights to make this crpg, they bought White Wolf entirely for the ttrpg too, which also started to flounder under their watch.Paradox does very well when it comes to autistic history simulations and their one 4x space game, but whenever they branch out they completely fail.
>>543843890>>543844081Its for kineticist
>>543843724What do you mean? On enemies it's fucking infuriating because eventually they'll be hitting insane SR numbers that are hard to keep up with. On your guys it's not as good, it's great against annoying shitters like the Votaries that spam phantasmal web but I found that a lot of the time my SR tends to get bypassed by higher level enemies
>>543844264Kineticist does very much need it unless you're only using physical blasts or blades
Guys, why does Greybor look like he was vertically compressed?
>>543844156This too. Every Lich spell, or at least the good ones and 99% of them are good, ignore SR entirely
>>543844474thats just how dwarves look don't be racist anon
>>543844264Energy blades hit touch ac but need to pass spell pen, physical blades hit normal ac but don't need to pass spell pen. Sometimes one is easier to bypass than the other
>>543841481They should’ve just renamed the TCR game. The new devs didn’t want to make an rpg and that’s fine but paradox should’ve known trying to use the name for more sales would just piss people off.
Bloodlines 2 will be the cyberpunk of fantasy games.
>>543840728Good. The shills need to go
>>543844565Even his armor looks compressed. I think there is trickery afoot.
>>543844489Azata also gets rerolls and a huge spell pen buff from their spells.
>>543840728Uhhhhhhhhh bros where’s the madden general??
>>543844343>>543844737Yeah im still on the fence between what blasts i want, so i was thinking about it from the angle of physical -> full ac or energy -> touch ac + sr
>>543845340The regular is to always have deadly earth then choose between 1 of the other two>Deadly earth infusion[ ] Magma - earth(phys) + fire(energy)[ ] Metal - double earth[ ] Mud - earth(phys) + water(phys)>Cloud infusion[ ] Sandstorm - air(phys) + earth(phys)[ ] Steam - fire(energy) + water(phys)>Double energy blast[ ]Blue flame blast - double fire
>>543846969Shame I cant find any screenshots on what these look like
>>543843812You can ship them however
Anyone played Bloodline 2 yet? Opinion?
>>543847986not a crpg
>>543829240There is also a Trickster Knight Commander fight in the DLC, his build is 11 Rowdy Rogue/9 Vivisectionist/1 Scaled Fist monk, has all the trickster critical feats and wields the Grave Singer axe. It was pretty funny when I saw his stat sheet.
>>543847986It’s okay and not a crpg
>>543847986not a crpgnot an arpgbarely even an action game
I ship them.
The fact that BG1&2, Pillars, and Shadowrun are even on the table (all about 10 years ago) speaks to how CRPGs are merely limping along.I suppose it also speaks to the long shelf-life of Quality CRPGs, that's another perspective.Wasteland 4Pillars 3Jagged Alliance 4Another ShadowrunDisco Elysium 2The fact that half of these are impossible due to studio shake-ups shows again that this genre, and bideogames in general, are a new artform still struggling to define itself.Yet some bideogames like FPS and Action RPG have carved out a solid space. I wonder why?Diablo and Doom, I suppose. Clear vision, you get what's on the box.
You had your Pillar 3, bro
>>543813491>What are your hopes for Larry in Dark Heresy?I want him to not be a cunt like Yrliet. Sure be haughty, but be a bro, nor Yrliet spamming monkey and being condescending every sentence.
'841no, 0/10 apply yourself
>>543848860>Yrliet spamming monkeyThe combat barks are the least of her issues The real problem is her personality changing on a dime within the very same conversation
>>543848841god, what a fucking mistake
>>543848860Imo best case scenario you insult eachother as a greeting like true bros
>>543848860>Yrliet spamming monkeyI’ve seen lots of those itt
>>543847986its shit
>>543849167Oh man crpgg players aren't gonna like that Anything less than complete obsequiousness is grounds for instant execution
>>543849475Who cares fuck em
TRIGGER WARNING: owlkek questionCan we continue an already existing save after 1.5 or do I need to start again?
>>543849475you like being called slurs without telling the person off huh
>>543849167Sure don't mind that or some insults, but it just seemed retarded how much she called humans monkeigh kekMost of the Eldar in mdia don't overuse it
They should have let you call Yrliet slurs back
>>543850201you can continue with an existing saveyou also get a free respec
>>543851103she would probably just leave. what kind of retard hangs out with someone who calls you slurs (not banter) all day?
>>543850201If you were exploiting the executioner thing you might want to I guess
>>543851103Women cant understand that level of friendship anon
>>543850771She uses it constantly instead of saying "human" but she always calls you by her special name for you (except once when she finds the shard and is mad at you)They do acknowledge it because at the very end of the romance she stops herself saying the m-k-word and says "your kind" instead
I’ll just say itI can’t stand low budget shit.
It's only browns who are offended to be called monkeyWhites find it funny
>>543851439i was exploiting the executioner class pretty hard, guess i'll just see how everything is after i respec
>>543851316The RT
>>543852372yes that was the implication, thanks.
>>543852302I hope they don't let you
>>543852302I don't want any sororitasI want Argenta
>>543852710>we want to fug the spunky tomboy sister companion>old lady femdom you say? da komrade, say no moreI wish everyone a happy total slavic death
>>543852971How haggy are we talking?
>>543849074Imagine if they'd been working on Pillars 3 the whole time.
>>543848841crazy how this was supposed to be next skyrim and in the one nobody gave a shit
>>543852372Haha not meI killed Yrliet immediately!I like to do thing's a little differently
>they still, always, talk about smooching their dolliesI don't even know what to say. It literally presents as brain damage to me.
I thought you were leaving
>>543853313You’re on 4chanYou’re already one of the biggest losers in human history
>>543853313What else is relevant? The important themes? The combat? Both of these are trivial
>>543853204The game is nothing like skyrim other than being first person
>>543853374trve!
An elf approaches youUpon greeting her, her ears start wiggling wildly.Your response?
>>543853804Belch extremely loudly.
Is Azata an arcane themed mythic for Good? Lich is strictly evil and while I have played a lich as good as possible there are points where it doesn't make sense and by the end you have to ditch it before you enter the bone zone. All the Good paths only merge divine spells
its an auto attack game with the occasional spell big baby, you want us to make the build for you too and take away any challenge
>>543854413Yes. Favourable magic, zippy magic, and the azata buffs are all really strong for arcane casters.
>>543854664y u mad tho
>>543853804I report her to the nearest guard for sedition, she's clearly some kind of spy signaling to her fellow subversives and elf-supremacists
Elves are out to steal your sperm
I wanna smooch her.
>>543856642Is this a bad thing?
>>543857791You will not survive when a baby crazy elf hag spots youYou could never handle the uppies afterwards
Do not breed with elves. Half elf hapas will be the doom of the human race. They're all psychos, see: Camellia, Octavia, Aribeth, Arwen, Shadowheart, the Fey Enchantress, the entire Breton race, etc.
Playing on daring is harder than I realized. Tons of enemies have party wide AoE that basically force a reload. Tanks are semi-useless as they die even with capped AC at that stage in the game.
>>543859215Jaheira was a nice half elf
I realize the reason I have trouble enjoying this game is because it really does feel like an autoclick gameThere are no tactics beyond send in your deathblob
>>543859250You must be doing something horribly wrong if you can get hit on anything but a 20 on daring
How do you become high lvl ranger irl?
>>543860964Bears respond well to free food.
>>543860964is this AI slop
>>543861259I am unsure but I don't think so
>>543860964Watch grizzly man for tips
>>543861347I've seen that video before AI was a thing but it's still crazy how realistic some of these have gotten, especially if in a low res format like 4chan webms
>>543860154I often send in Cam first, I put everything into AC basically, I also use defensive fighting. Also this is unbuffed. Any idea what I'm missing?
>>543862080Why is Seelah's horse not tanking?
>>543862080All of the spells, a character that benefits from charisma to ac. By next level you can have a paladin with mark. You can at least drunken monk her and take off the armor
Are mounts romanceable in WotR?
>>543862080I wouldn't use that character as a tank. Her AC only gets reasonably high and she dies instantly if she actually gets hit. At the point you're at, having some mounted characters tanking. Ideally, you don't really want to be tanking anything in this game. Especially since the AI, at least on hard, doesn't really fall for it. You want to CC all of your enemies on turn 1 and then have the rest of the battle be finishing them off.
>>543862890Eh ai does fall for it they just switch targets after not hitting for long enough, if you have 2 characters for them to hit it's unlikely they go for a backline
I just got to my second archetype in rogue trader and I'm not sure what to pick. I'm playing an arbites soldier with a focus on shotguns, what's the go to?
>>543863507Arch Militant is always fun. You can switch between shotguns and hitting people with your night stick and build up versatility points for changing weapons. Then cash these in to go all out.
>>543859250People will call you a shitter because most of them are playing on unfair and/or using build guides, but it's the sort of game you're meant to save scum in. Load a battle. Die because one enemy hits you with a debilitating spell you weren't ready for, try it again with a new strat/buffs, or get lucky. That sort of thing. It's also the sort of game where you typically win big or lose big.
>>543863578I didn't really build for strength or weapon skill but I suppose I could retrain
>>543863772The dirty secret is that Wotr is only insanely hard at the start. By the end of Act 3, it'll be a cakewalk if you're half decent at building characters. Applying dozens of buffs to basically make you immune to anything the demons throw at you is tedious, but it's not difficult.
>>543863772I've beaten the game entirely on unfair before but now I just play on hard until drezen for convenience sake. I still haven't seen most mythics beyond act 3
>>543863934You need not use a melee weapon. You can use a flamer for your alt or any other sort of gun.
>>543864030I replayed WOTR on unfair Last Azlanti and breezed through it, it was too easy.
>>543863772I do undersized party in market square which bumps you two levels above the regular for a while, just bringing in cam. Once you pick new companions they join at your xp if you mess wirh the party size options and then you turn that back off while you haven't picked woljif, daeran, ember or had nenio rando encounter. Makes the early game a little easier you'll be lvl 7 by minahgo a1 instead of 5
reeee how dare you say a game i struggled with is easy you used a build guide!!nah faggot i just used my eyes and read the feats and classes. its less words than the 750+ posts about cuckolding and critical role you retards make every threaddon't worry they adjusted RT down to mentally handicapped difficultly so any random shit you pick is now a special build blasting the bad dudes
Build guides are bad they won't pick slumber immediately for cam the fools
>>543863772>Die because one enemy hits you with a debilitating spell you weren't ready forThe only time this ever actually happened to me was that midnight fane guy who casts Polar Midnight the moment he spots you.
>>543864157Hmm, I'll give it a go, thanks Anon
>>543864812Also, to be clear, you do not sometimes even need to switch your gun.The same weapon doing a single shot or burst fire builds up versatility
Weird dog is a pretty good character, i don't know why so many anons hate her. She is basically ranged Amiri except that you can have sex with her, hell they both have the same "strong takes all" mentality. And it is not like she doesn't have her soft spots
>>543863772Thank fuck arcane object on cleric/shaman let you look at your spellbook prepare something and get the slot you need
>>543864806It never happened once, even on your first playthrough? I find that hard to believe.
they even put a feat it the game making you immune to one shots once per rest. you could just put that on every one if your such a shitter addicted to the reload button but its a catch 20-2 since a shitter can't figure that out and some one that could wouldnt be a shitter
>>543865031No, because I'm not shit at the game like you are. First playthought blind on Daring. Beat the game no sweat.
They balance around dipping thats why everything feels so shit.
>>543865031Emphasis on 'ready for'.Sometimes you roll 1 on your save regardless, sometimes your brilliant plan of 'kil caster who throws something first' fails.Just opening a door and getting fucked was a unique experience.Closest thing to it next would be ancient Sarkorian Ghost that casts rift, but I won
>>543865173Some classes are better with no dips at all or at most 1 lvl because they get something really good at 19 or 20
>>543865173There is absolutely no reason to dip up to core.
'they'?owlslopper.....pathfinder is dead. its okay you won its balanced around retards now
They wouldn't need to balance around dipping if they did what 5e did and put stat requirements for classes. No more 8 CHA wizard with a sorcerer dip.
I think PF is hard. Outside of some max autism games, it's on the upper end of complexity for me. I read all the descriptions, and even then it's hard for me to intuitively grasp what some things do and how they synergize properly, or if they're working properly since "bugs." The amount of build options they throw at you per level is dizzying, especially when considering you can and should combine classes together. PF is very overwhelming as a first time player, more so than nearly any other RPG I've played through fully.
>>543865489Because you've barely played anything. PF is about as complex as Baldur's Gate 1/2. XCOM and Jagged Alliance are more complex.
>>543865405Cause sorcerdin nor bardin do not happen in 5e
>>543864918And there are talents so that using an item or kicking someone also boosts versatility. It's a fun archetype. It's how those>Argenta does 1 billion damagebuilds work
>>543865489It took me years to perfect an oracle build for tabletop realizing I could combine a prestige class with domains to get an oracle with 8 lvls worth of any domain and 10 lvls worth of two others by taking oracle dual cursed pirit guide 7/stargazer 10/loremaster 1/separatist cleric 1. I'm still undecided on whats best for last lvl. This kind of thing is what I want to see on my tabletop character building
Sorcerer should go back to being a WIS caster to be honest.
>>543865756Spirit guide*
>>543865758Sorcerer as introduced in 3d edition was a CHA caster , right?Or do you mean something else
>>543865604>BG1/2That's just not true. The list of feats/spells you can take per level can fit on one page, and you cannot dip classes. Its leveling is much more restrictive and hand-holdy. Compared to WotR, where you can have something like 100 classes, pages of feats thrown at you from level 1, and tons of dip options (and the game is balanced around dips). Additionally, Owlcat's recommended leveling will usually fuck you over, sometimes recommending feats that your character class literally cannot use, because they like to troll.
Most people are just absolutely shit at wotr and repeat meme tier lists. People say fucking bards/skalds are unplayable as full casters even though they can trivialize 99% of the game like literally any other competently built spellcaster.
if you can't beat the game as a human fighter no multiclassing the balance is poor
>>54386620620 mutt warrior is actually pretty good when supported and you can totally beat the game with it
>>543866302My first core run was pure Aldori Defender for wrath.Granted,it was also trickster
>>543866081I have my skald casting selective grease on the regular. Can they hit spell dcs as high as a full caster nope but before lvl 7 spells it's very much the same besides some lvl 6 skald spells brilliant inspiration in particular is as good as a lvl 9 spell
>>543866550By the time I get to endgame in wotr I'm usually just back to casting low level spells because my dc is boosted so high it doesn't really matter anymore
Daily reminder that you don't need to buff much on Core or lower in WotR.Shitters will throw an absolute tantrum about this simple fact, it's amazing. They will scream and cry that it's not fair, and uninstall the game before turning the difficulty down to what's more appropriate for their abilities.
>ignore immunities to poison and disease talent>cast fart clouds on demons
They made executioner really bad on unfair
>>543865489thing increase number = goodthing not increase number = badowlcraps are super simple
>>543865489>PF is very overwhelming as a first time player when you're a retard who has trouble readingfixed that for you
>>543867825Intentionally misleading the player isn't difficulty but new players don't know +1 to sneed is more important than +1 to chuck or whatever, so they do have to figure things out a bit before they can tell what's a trap option (bad design) or not though
>>543866856This was my level 2 page for the entire game, I never changed it and I never needed to, it would oneshot any trash mobs and if anything actually challenging showed up like the dog head guys or balors or whatever I had 8 more levels of spells for them
who else is high af right now? also did they just assign argenta to the "just sit there and watch the artifact branch" because she is dumb?
>>543868391No people just have jobs to do and there's jobs that need doingShit happens
I wouldn't trust argenta with a important job.
I'd trust Argenta with a job. A hand job that is
>>543865489This is 4chan, where everyone is strangely a millionaire neet with a 10 inch cock that can bench 220 and beat any vidya with their eyes closed. think about why that is and relax.
It's a terrible sequel to Bloodlines, but I'm honestly not hating Bloodlines 2. I wish the combat were a little more forgiving, just getting shredded on normal from stun locks and other gay bullshit. Definitely feel more like a thin blood than an elder.
>>543868391Yeah they had noted her tendency to want to be on the frontlines without proper trainingSo they gave her a position that is genuinely important but wouldn't overstretch her limits
I know certaint companions leave you on the heratic route, what about the iconoclast route?
>>543869104The problem is the lack of blockYou can only run around or facetank
>>543869142why would they leave during an icono run?
>>543869142No
>>543869142Nope everyone likes you on that. Likewise Dogmatic. No one will leave you for being too Dogmatic as such. Some will leave you for their own reasons if you don't help with with their gay quests eg Pasqal and Yrlishart
>>543868391I'd like if it you met Argenta in as a museum clerk who longs for something more exciting.
>>543869104To be honest I'm kinda glad to get this over the shitshow the original devs showed off. At least I can play it as its own thing.
>>543856830
>>543868957And you'd be right not to>puts no points into commerce skill>gets swindled out of MY profit factor
yeah im giving this to idira
>>543871224Imagine if it stacked.
Abelard's crying about your low commerce skill in the bridge toilets again
>>543871415Abelard would make a better RT than we did.He's a ladies' man too so I think Argenta would be more receptive to him
>>543871470Abelard is the Jeeves to our WoosterIt's where he was meant to be
>>543871415
Abelard shave the balls of the next anon who gets dubs
Why request it from a guy, faggot. Atleast have yrliet do it.
>>543867586We back, kangmaker?
>>543872639I think that was an esl attempt at saying to cut their balls off.
I would rather have a man touch my junk than a filthy unwashed knife ear
You can perform elf circumcisions, anon.
humans are to eldars what chimpanzees are to humans, simple as
>>543873207Not really. The tech level and language are much closer than the vast gap between chimps and humans. Eldar use the same old lasgun and slug thrower tech and humans can speak their language passably well.The gap is more like between whites and indians.However Old Ones : Both eldar and humans together is the same as Humans : Chimps
You're all primitive piles of meat next to our true overlords
>>543873454Why didn't bro just wear sunscreen instead of making a pact with the horrible monster that lives in the sun?
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>>543873557I don't think they're computer men. They're just ghosts trapped in metal skeletons.
Every time Abelard gets a rejuvenat treatment it takes about an inch off his height.
>>543873803I was larping as a tech priest. I don't know much about 40k lore but I did play mechanicus.
>>543874101Oh rightKeep up the good work honored magus
How would you realistically dispose of a full blown C'Tan?I'm thinking lure it into a tasty star, then while it's chowing down hit the star with a mini black hole.The 'hole should rapidly destabilise the core of the star and set off a supernova, regardless of the size of the star.
>>543873454Can 40k robots have sex?
>>543874338You'll find out in DLC 3.
>>543874338Unless they have retractable penis, then no. These guys are as smooth as kendolls down there.
>>543869268You know, I never considered what happens if you do not actually do character quests.Does Jae stay even if you do not get her the license?
>>543873454>>543874338>>543874394The more things change, the more they stay the same
>>543874474Yes I think Jae stays. Pasqal gets so asshurt he explodes.
>>543874557Big Trouble in little Koronus
>>543874529I mean necrons are just space mummies
drained
Is there anyway to keep the cube in underrail?
>>543875310tired cammy
This girl is so hard to understand. I need a strategy guide.
Been replaying WOTR again (doing a Winter Child/Winter Witch Angel run) and got around to doing the Final Sunset of Winter. Can't seem to find any concrete answers, but what would happen if you let the illusion vanish? I always personally keep it
>>543879054Fun fact: male cats bite the female’s back during sex, usually to keep her still.So what you did there was the equivalent of pulling down your pants to expose your huge erection the moment a girl flirted with you.
>>543879364Tieflings are the same as cats right?
>>543879364
>>543869165There's a party but I can't get it to work on anything. You're supposed to dodge into them but they just hit me anyways. Very gay.
>>543879054TNO is a massive autist in this incarnation
>>543879585*parry
>solasta 2 EA confirmed coming out at the beginning of 2026 and a new trailer dropped MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED!!!https://youtube.com/watch?v=ecp8AtdDdSg&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD
>>543813491>tqNot a whoreslut
>>543813491>What are your hopes for Larry in Dark Heresy?They won't have him be outright insulting towards humans since this isn't his first time working with the Inquisition. And only females can get away with that story-wise.
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>>543880401>EA coming out at 2026Yay
>honestly bladedancer is probably even stronger now because of priest reworkLmaoAnd this is Revan btw, the youtuber who tested the 1.5 before release for weeks and build autisms the game with over a thousand hours. How did Owlkek fuck up this hard?
>>543813491>What are your hopes for Larry in Dark Heresy?Actual substantive conversations such as with Pasqal.
>>543879054What game is this? I assume it's one of the older Infinity Engine ones?
>>543882884Planescape: Torment
>>543882582This. One of my big gripes with Yrliet is that she was mostly a lore dump in her bridge dialogue and didn't talk about herself or her thoughts on topics like Pasqal did who mixed it with the lore dumps.
>>543883559Those lore dumps must be so boring for the voice actors.
>>543883306thanks anonstill need to play that along with the old infinity engine games
>>543883929It's really good. Not too wordy at all despite its reputation.
>>543881425call of duty 4: modern warfare was better
>>543868363Bro your selective grease?
>>543885386we selective winter grasp these days
>>543885564p2w
>>543885615Was it a part of dlc? I stopped playing before season pass 2 released and playing a new playthrough now, I just assumed they added it as part of an update.I did obviously buy both season passes. Midnight merchany sells like 4 or 5 bags of holding, I ain't skipping those.
>>543881425rpgamer giving the only important review
>>543869165no firearms?
>>543884140>Psycho pyro wizard>Suit of armor animated by pure lawtism>Fallen succubus>The Nameless One>Helpful yet suspicious skull>Scottish tiefling>Githzerai>Friendly robotPlanescape had such a good party
>>543881425It was always going to be enjoyable. Obsidian make good, but not amazing games. OW1 was the same, as was Avowed. I'm more impressed that they are able to pump out stuff so quickly that are generally good. Bethesda should kill themselves.
>>543869104I'm waiting for them to do a cyperpunk and revamp it over the next few months.
>>543886953>Bethesda should kill themselves.TRUVKEI am dreading next scrolls game
Red Dwarf the CRPG
>>543888134Romanceable KochanskiRomanceable Cathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV0hwZwNQZc
>>543886953It's an 84 and every review boils down to 'a bit better than ToW1'.I guess pure mechanics wise, it will not be horrid, but enjoyable experience for everything else? Dunno
>>543886953>good, but not amazing gamesiirc, that's like their philosophy now
Are Collector's editions really that fucked to deliver? See a lot of drama regarding this. Guy is so mad he won't even accept a refund.Posting this as a heads up for people preordering that since there seem to be issues for some with deliveries.
>>543886953>>543889091is there anything wrong with games being just good? I hate the expectation that everything has to be 10/10 now. Some of my most enjoyable games are 7/10s.
>>543889128Context: This was the screenshot he uploaded earlier of Owlcat support
>>543889128This is specifically for wrath and the combo of covid+Russia going chimp mode for war.Pretty sure they did not have such issues with kingmaker and RT.>it's not about moneyThat guy is a bit dramatic
>>543889293It's just, when a game is marketed 'from the creators of New Vegas' and you get 'New Vegas -', you get pissed/disappointed
>>543889128>I won't be accepting a refund, they can keep their blood moneyWhat? So in his eyes they scammed him..they offer to give him his oney back and he just goes "Keep it lol"And this is like what 250 EUR? He's being an emotional redditor>I'll let the guys that scammed me keep my money that'll show em!
>>543889738It's about the principle.Don't ask me what principle, it just is
>>543889728>you get pissed/disappointedthen isn't that your fault for having high expectations?
>>543889979Not being a downgrade in almost every regard from the previous game they made and claimed it would be like should not be considered a lofty expectation.Now I know better.
>>543889979>Promise A in all interviews>Deliver B instead>ha-ha it's your fault for expecting to get Akill yourself, owlshill
>>543889128>the owltranimal target audience get's their dueslollmao
do you guys think it's a coincidence that 'mon-keigh' is similar to the word 'monkey'
>>543890701Huh? Similar how? The pronunciation is completely different.
>>543890701It was a monkey joke originally, then it changed to being said as "mon kai" which you wouldn't understand by just hearing itFor some reason Yrliet's VA pronounces that and some other words weird like Asuriyaaan instead of just Asuriyan etc.
Why would i need the slave boy's help? I killed the fucking top dog of the city with my bare hands
>>543890983In the russian 40k culture they say "mon-keigh" exactly the same as "monkey" so I think Yrliet and Marazhai's VAs were explicitly directed to do thatIn all the Dawn of War games it was "mon kai" so it sounded like some exotic Celtic thing until you saw it written down which was the intention I think.
>>543891167You like to see slaves do things that lead to their death?
>>543868957I'd trust her with a titjob, if you can pick up what i'm implying.
>>543891625?????
>>543889128>blood moneywhat a dramatic bitch holy shit
>>543889128They didn't have these issues with their other games, and almost everyone did end up getting their copy. It took them a few years due to various global events like covid and wars. I'm not usually one to make excuses, but there actually were some atypical circumstances this time.The community manager explained that like 90% of people did end up getting it, and the delays were a direct result of the circumstance, which I believe because these issues weren't as bad with their other two games. and "weren't as bad" is key, since even this time with the issues 90% of people did get it. And for the few people who never got it, they did issue a full refund, which is a loss for them due to the manhours put into trying to make it work out. I don't think owlcat did anything wrong here.
>>543891167
>>543889128What part of your little discord drama is crpg-related? Can you make an effort to not turn this general into your little subreddit where you gossip about devs and omg did you see the drama between x and y?
>>543892268>keep having fun with your clunky and bad combat in your not-rpg
>>543892268
>>543892268have fun all you wantbut it's not a crpg
An asexual necron gf would have been cooler
>>543892268>game is so bad that even /crpg/ does waste time shitting on it>has to resort to posting leddit memes to garner attentionEmbarassing
>>543892719I don't think they come in male or female varieties
>>543890983Yrliet's VA is Dutch so she's pretty weird from the get-go
>>543893214they do actually, the 'cron leader in Mechanicus 2 is a woman
>>543892268"Lots of people still have fun with it even if it's bad" doesn't work very well when the general thread fell off page 10 and most discussion you see is meh or even negative. There are plenty of games that are fun despite being bad, and there are plenty of games that are popular despite being bad, but when you don't even have a general and it's not a common topic on other websites either, it doesn't apply.Trust me, I'm as sad as anyone. I've had that game on my wishlist since it was announced almost a decade ago. Nobody is more disappointed than me. But if it's not an rpg and has various gameplay issues and isn't a proper spiritual successor to the namesake, then I'm not going to pretend it's secret fun or good.
>>543893214They do now. One of the major retcons that happened to necrons several years ago is that now they actually do have personalities and genders and the like. It's the rank and file lowest necrons who have pretty much forgotten who they were before the transition to robot, but all of the middle and upper necrons are individuals, many of which with memories intact. They even go to war with each on occasion.
>>543893954>>543893690Hmm interesting. That could create a good foundation for a companion in RT DLC 3
>>543893330>Yrliet's VA is DutchI knew there was something off about her
>>543894101What is the point of "gender" if they don't fuck
Consider: Necron JOI
>>543894101She also did a character in Clair Obscure that sounds exactly like Yrliet
I love Octavia
>>543894974we know, orcfag
>>543889128Did Starrok respond to that last bit
>>543895249Isn't Starrok just some jannie fag?
>>543895310Community manager. He does respond to stuff on behalf of Owlcat
>>543883559Yes like I'd want to ask him things like why did he become a corsair and what does he think of the craftworld to which his unit is attached.
>>543895249
>>543895834
>>543859215
What do you guys think about reworked origins in rogue trader?is commissar finally a distributor?
>>543896902I wish she made more portraits bros...
For my Arc-Rifle build should I go with Bounty Hunter or Assassin or do I take Arbite background and go Soldier > Overseer.
>>543884140Most of Planescape's writing is concise, interesting, and easily digestible, even though there is a lot of it. You can read it for hours and not get bored or tired. It is also more interactive. It feels like a conversation between the Nameless One and the NPC. The nameless one isn't getting monologued too. The NPC speaks for a few sentences, the Nameless One makes a response, repeat. Typically, when people complain about too much writing in an RPG, they're complaining about too much bad or boring writing, the sort that makes your eyes feel heavy and gets you skimming through text.
>>543883306Its so refreshing looking at proper crpg writing after the empty word vomit of an Owlcat game.
is there a single crpg setting where elves are nice people instead of insolent squatters or the cause of all problems
>>543898013The thing is that no fantasy race is nice.
>>543898013Elanee is nice in NWN2
>>543896902wait is that actually from the dungeon meishi author?
>>543898013LotR
>>543898013I was going to say pathfinder but they're kind of uppity there too. Forgotten Realms elves used to be chill.
>>543896902cam
>>543895834>>543896592>>543890563>>543889128Thank you for sharing your discord drama with the thread, anon, its what we're all here for.
>>543898013Elves are fundamentally not nice people They represent the fey, the unknowable
>>543898376Start reporting that crap as off-topic if you don't want to see more of it
>>543898365
>>543898360who cares?
>>543895575So yes, a janniefag
Elves are the way Christian Europeans thought a lot the few remaining pagans Almost exactly like you, but fundamentally different 40k Eldar are very clearly inspired by pagans vs Christians
bait so incredibly shit you feel dirty even acknowledging it
Idira probably smells pretty bad right?
>>543899349the RT has the only bath on the whole ship
>>543898376It was game related unlike the cuck fantasies
why are half-dwarves not a thing
No anon the cuckspam is essential thread culture and is on-topic, we must report screenshots of preorder issues that might inform people about their purchase
>>543901102One drop rule
>>543871224Isn't there a heretic item that boosts your psy rating for triggering perils or something? Could be fun.
>>543901180>but what about that other shitposting? surely it justifies me posting screencaps of discord drama
>>543901615It's not even drama just a customer complaining to Owlcat and Starrok explaining why this happened.
What do you think of race/gender locked classes/subclasses?
>>543901709thank you for bringing this topic of utmost importance and INFORMING our fellow anons of the risks of purchasing the collector's edition of an owlcat game! wish I could upvote you more than once!
>>543901809They're neat but I will cheat around them if it fits my character. That's not to say they shouldn't exist.
>>543901809i'm bummed only koreans still seem to care about them, but i think they help with worldbuilding
>>543901809I think it's good, reflects some weight behind choosing race and sex and lore of the world. Like if we were to make a Warcraft or Warhammer CRPG where there are a lot of race specific unit types in lore or even in game (only elves are demonhunters in WoW) it would be fitting to have a special version of a general warrior to be Ironbreaker that only a dwarf can be in Warhammer or you need to be femal to be a Dark Elf sorcerress or witch elf or Kislevite Ice witch etc.
>>543901809stop curtailing player freedomthere's nothing wrong with playing necron commissars or greenskin succubi and changing the setting to accommodate them
Mister of Battle
>>543901809I only make gender/race locked classes
>>543897815Precisely this. Planescape earned its prose. When you got a prosedump it felt like a reward.
Owlkek is having a dev stream on YT and twitch, they are showcasing 1.5 and answering questions btw
>>543905257go ask why they hate straight males
I think if I play rt I just will on 1.4 seems more fun or I could just wait for 1.6
>>543905440Kek imagine someone actually posts the cuck schizobbable
>>543905257Ask them when they're going to hire good writers and programmers
Someone asked about next DLCs Starrok said he can't promise all of them will be romancable...Ork confirmed??
>>543905257>What will the next two dogmatic human additions be like?
>>543905990It's weird that we come across 0 orks the entire game. They fuck around in Koronus.
>>543906352Too much work to make ork models and ships small incompetent indie company please understando
>>543906352Yeah people and books/dataslates mention them a few times and you find Ork equipment in a side location.Also Jae lost her hand to Orks.
>>543906646that's another lieshe lost it when she was caught stealing
Someone asked if the number of companion in Dark Heresy was bigger or smaller than in Rogue Trader, Starrok said "it's similar maybe not exactly the same, but pretty much the same" I think this hints that we might get a Night Lord extra late game companion.
>>543906936She said "it was Orks Shereen not everything I said was a lie"
>>543901809I like it, but they shouldn't be the majority
>>543901102because they're already half a person
>>543901809It's a nice idea, but in practice you're basically creating a whole class that can only be used by 1 out of 5 races and said race is played by like 2% of the payerbase. It'd be a waste of effort and resources.
Starrok said no major updates before DLC3
>>543905990Finally. I want to see the banter between a ork and Jimmy. >>543906352Ork requires another different model plus the game is already full of unfinished things, it would just be another one.
>>543907889but we just got one
Starrok said the Expanse is going to be the BG3 killer
>>543907328>liar says this specific thing isn't a lielol
I just wanna know what the remaining Dark Hereesy companions are...
Starrok said the humiliation rituals will continue
>>543900083>"My special pigfeed didn't arrive!">"Sorry want a refund?">"No. I just want to piss and cry and shit up a discord because thats what discords are for"Ah, I remember this part of Rogue Trader, very game related, yes.
Starrok said the funny line that Matt Mercer is known for
>>543911009>I am the Protoype manAnd he Prototyped all over the place.
>>543906646Theodora has an ork skull on her desk
We're cooking
>>543909675No reason to lie about it at that point and she was a guardsman
>>543911184I hate spiteful mutants so much it's unreal.
>>543911184A Dark Eldar turning down sex is unrealistic though.
>>543911184you wrote that
Ask if we can get taucows
>>543911401Nah unironically wasn't me I'm lurking
>>543911328but everyone loves chaos?gw assured me of this
Starrok said they are not sure if they will do an endless dungeon DLC again
Starrok says he's thankful for all the advertising you do on 4chan but reminds you you're doing it for free
Starrok says Jae used to be Joe
joe mama
>>543912330It's fine, I've also not paid for any of their games, and not going to, so it balances itself out
>>543913105I didnt pay for rogue trader and still wouldnt my game was unfinishable I'd be even more angry about it if I paid not that I didn't expect later acts to be bug infested pieces of shit
tau gf
>>543913482Can she be milked? Produce cheese?
Starrok said they might do more NPC portraits and have a community vote for which characters get them
>>543913784Amarnatbros, don't let me down
Starrok said they're getting lots of positive feedback on Yrliet and will make more characters like her.
>>543913784VPN samefag 20 000 votes for Evayne so the one fag that rages against him seethes
>>543913784relocate all VA budget into portrait and art budget
I wonder how many people did the oracle + angel build.
IMO portraits>>>>VA Idc about voice acting as much, would rather have art for as many NPCs as possible
>>543914268people theorycrafted that combo before the alpha even released. the most basic bitch combo in the entirety of wrath.
>>543914268I try not to play new classes pathfinder added, they feel out of place and amateur, so I usually only play the normal D&D classes. I guess that'd be cleric in this case?
>>543914268I did Bloodrager+Angel
>>543913784Hopefully Muaran gets one, he feels like a huge omission
portraits are a waste toohow about just making the environment and character models not ass
>>543914268I did eldritch scion abyssal bloodline as my angel. It was the first build that I played through all of Kingmaker so I took it into WoTR. I didn't even know Jubilost was a companion because I missed that one encounter where his carriage has broken down.
>>543914428cleric is a half-assed divine caster like druid, oracle is more in the full caster rangeit's actually kinda silly that none of the "original" d&d classes were full divine casters
>>543913784Every Pasqal personality
>>543914268Oracle is the best class in tabletop being able to get domain, familiar, cleric spells, unique oracle spells, psychic spells, wizard spells, spirit, companion, cha to ac, cha to atk including for ranged, cha to dmg including for ranged, cha to initiative, triple stack cha to ac, and providing strong party utility in the form of advantage and disadvantage as a reaction aura. Of course I played it but a variety of its features are missing
>>543914268Angel only merges with cleric and oracle, so...
>>543914823>Gets 9th level spells>Half assed caster
>>543913784Redditoids will be in control of the voteExpect cringe picks
>>543915005druid bros punching air
honestly, the build complexity is one of the worst parts of owlcat gamesthey should take a page from baldur's gate and make it stupidly easy to create a top tier build with no prior knowledgethe difficulty should come from tactics, not build
>>543915027too skilled at melee
>>543914760The environments are fine and no one is zooming in to look at the character models.
>>543915027There is a charisma based cleric elder mythos, that can actually cast properly but you do get a few negatives in that you have to worship cthulhu or shub niggurath etc and be insane
>>543915181>no one is zooming in to look at the character modelsexcept owlcat, who are forcing the cringe cutscenes
>>543915095I refuse to recognize the existence of hippie magic
>>543915005I got a mod to make any spellbook able to merge with any path :^)
>>543914318Same. I wish they just did a bust instead of mid body.
>>543915163And Oracles aren't? You can just be a battle oracle?
>>543914641idek who tf that is, why are you so fixated on them?
Anon was retarded for saying clerics aren't full casters when they literally and irrefutably are.Ignore him and move on.
>>543914823
>>543915369Not bust just face I mean. That would be easier to make. >>543915470He's the elf on Janus who shits on Yrliet. There used to be a Muaranfag
>>543915470janus elf leader. 40k brought in that one eldar autist.
>>543915330Well, you got me there.
They could just delete druid for shaman
>>543914268For being the final villain in a western action RPG, she's pretty hot.
I'd like them to show Argenta's bust
>any chance for Black Crusade in future>No idea at this point, when we finish Dark Hereesy we will see *Smile*He didn't deny, he said it in a implying tone...so Owlkek will most likely continue to shit out 40K
The only important NPCs athat are left are the amarnat bros. The rest are not important enough to bother. Though getting a portrait for Cubis Delphim and Muaran would be fine since they are after all the bosses of the their respetive planet quests
>>543915771>if it's not the strongest class ever it doesn't deserve to existbehead all munchkinsshaman sucks too btw
>>543915787Though people here would probably complain about the blond and blue-eyed Aryan woman being the final boss.
>>543915870Probably just means that they are gonna keep working with gw. Whether it will be 40k or smegma or wfrp is unknown
buy an ad and change your typing style next time
>>543916050what game is it
>>543915917I would like the governors and leaders of the Dargonus Families to get one, but yeah, I am not itching for anything specific
>>543916147Lords of the fallen
>>54391587040gay makes the money. I thought GW sucks to work with though
>>543916147Lords of the Fallen. Would not recommend. It has some cute paladin girls, but the model rigging makes them look terrible in game, and the level design and enemy design si slop.
>>543915938Druid does have one strong option in tabletop in the form of supernaturalist lion shaman subclass combo but it's kind of weird that it makes it entirely lose wild shape like why
>>543916292owlcat are the right kind of pozzed for GW desu
A bit late to the party but...Noble origin did not get anything?Like, come on. Crime lord was at least pretty good already
>>543916570I don't play druids explicitly because I don't like shapeshifting but I can fully understand why someone would want to play them, shapeshifting or no. flavor is important for roleplaying.
>>543916576Considering that they had them take this out, not fully
>>543916745I would play druids if they could be played as spellcasters instead of gayass shapeshifters.
>>543916872My Feyspeaker run as caster focused in Kingmaker was pretty fun.But yeah, you end up more support than heavy hitter with most druid paths if you do not shapeshift
>>543901102They are, in Dark Sun.
>>543916843that (was :^)) hard lore. them removing it quietly shows they're in line.
>>543916843Did they actually take that out of the game?
>>543917108I think when the licence holder tells you 'no', you don't push back too hard in general, but sure
>>543916745I like druids, but I do indeed wish that there were more systems/games that let you focus more on the nature magic and shit, and less on the shapeshifting
>>543917315It's not even just "don't do that" I'm pretty sure that beta came out before the custode fiasco. the lore actively changed between that pic and release.
>>543916843Was this really taken out? That doesn't really matter if Ulfar is saying this and GW would push for Fem-marines since it can just be written off as something that he was told. Not the first time they "clarified" things.
>>543916843he still acts a bit off about female RTs
>>543917437Custodes are not space marines, to be fair.>>543917231>>543917461Yes
>>543917627>Custodes are not space marines, to be fair.true but the same autism that would compel them to put that option in purely as a lore thing also compels them to remove it purely as a lore thing. they're autistic as well as pozzed. I just wish the tism won out more often desu.
>>543916843see theres still some
>>543917627That's retarded. Nothing he says there is wrong, why would they remove it?
>>543918463""""""""female"""""""" marines already in production
>>543918463Too on the nose about women not being able to be something for GW? Dunno.
>>543918463because he's being condescending and unnecessarily rude to a woman RTthey probably didn't want their only space marine rep in game sounding like a misogynist especially considering his voice actor
>>543918547I would legitimately be done with 40K as a setting if they compromise to that degree.
>>543918703Ulfar's VA wasn't trans at the start
>>543918889well he was at least a flaming homo, idk if you just up and turn trans overnight like that
Space Marines are still male-only. It is canon, and always has been, that the gene-seed process doesn't work on females.Females custodes exist because the process of making a custodes is very tailored to the individual. Custodes are not astartes, they are several rungs above them in terms of how much effort and money is a part of their enhancements. Custodes are also not hypno-induced to be singularly about killing, since Custodes are not just guards, they are also advisors. So if the Emperor wanted a female custodes, his team of scientists just made it happen, and would make a custom surgery process for that chosen individual. It wasn't like astartes, where you throw in the gene-seed along with the other enhancements.The reason that line from Ulfar was removed was actually likely to the [Condescendingly] part. Astartes are still male-only, but GW is all about gender activism lately, so they would never feature someone being condescending towards a woman for being a woman, just like they would never have someone who is prejudiced against skin color or gender or sexual orientation. GW has chosen for their setting to be modern liberal friendly, while also being about mass genocide.
>>543919030I know who wrote this
thank you for the overly long answer again mr. my opinions are objectively correct which is why I'm afraid to actually reply to people
*genocides 10 billion people planet**makes human skin boots*errrmmm, did you just to a hecking sexism?
>>543918703What's "misogynistic" about stating simple facts? Women cannot be Space Marines.
>>543919280because when you aren't crippled by autism phrasing and mannerisms matterthere's a difference between "lmao you fucking dumb bitch you thought you could be a space marine? pffffffft hahahahaha" and "erm, I'm sorry milady but women cannot be space marines"
>>543919280It was literally just explained to you. [Laughs condescendingly] is what GW didn't like. It remains true that only men can be astartes but that is not the reason it was removed.
>>543919275Even Cain novels make a point about female soldiers being just as badass and make the lesbian guardsman beat someone for disrespecting her captain/lover
I am the Allfather's worthy instrument!!
>>543919030I just don't see how what Ulfar says there is condescending, this would be like some retard guy asking Argenta if they can be a SoB, obviously the answer is going to be a hard no.
>40sloppers care about bullshit that changes at the drop of a hatlmao
>>543919506>a carpet muncher beats up peoplejust like irl
yes i was born a man, but i heard the voice of the emperor telling me of my true gender after hours of AGP porn. that is why i joined the xisters of battle
>>543919457Only a dumb bitch would ask that question though so I am still not seeing the issue.
>>543919551If someone asked Argenta if he can be a SoB, obviously she would politely say no, and she would explain what the Decree Passive is.She would not [Laugh condescendingly].What is so hard for you to understand about this? Is this genuine autism? Do you not understand that a fact can be conveyed neutrally or with a condescending tone and that will change the context, but not the actual fact itself?
40sloppers are definitely the most insufferable fanbase
>>543919735well you don't say that to her face, you say it to Abelard and Pasqal later in private and they all laugh
>>543919810Still not seeing a problem here, what's wrong with Ulfar laughing at such a dumbass question? And yeah Argenta might have been nicer about but that fits her character, Ulfar is not exactly mr prim and proper so it's completely fine for him to speak that way.
space muhreen is a retarded 10 year old on steriods, they wouldn't respect your pronouns before 40woke turned them into male barbies - actually ken had more balls in the movie they made
>Ask Abelard what a Rogue Trader is>He's not allowed to facepalm
>>543919810>uhm, akshually everyone should be hecking polite, say pwease and thank you and ask for a persons pronouns before talking to them.
>>543919030I think people are making it into something it's not. Some people are scared they're making female marines soon so they're associating this to that but this was just an issue of them not wanting something negative about gender in their game because he's condescending about it. Totally separate issue. They still have him say females are not marines without the condescendingly part so you're right, it was just the tone that was the issue.>>543919180there is no opinion in that post
patch notesspace buttpirate forced by a tranny has had all condescending laughter removed towards femalesadded more choking and rape for the deldar romance
>>543919820That's because caring about the lore beyond respecting the aesthetics that make it what is is of a game where you are supposed to come up with your own worlds, characters, and chapters/armies/whatever attracts the lowest of the low IQs and consoomers.
>>543920964>added more choking and rape for the deldar romancethats good doe
I don't think GW should water down or distort their lore due to whatever sensibilities or marketing or anything else other than improving their lore to be more cool, heroic, logical, grimdark or sexy. I also think some of the complaints about it can be overblown even if I tend to agree with them.What I hate about the space marines can't be women thing and the custodes stuff is its obviously culture war marketing which is cancer for an IP, though, and I think thats the bigger issue with all the nerd-space problems all over the place for the last decade.
I may rape and torture people I capture, but at least i'm not racist, sexist or homophobic!>Laugh track
>>543921175it's funny that marz is less racist than yrliet
>>543921258everyone needs positive traits
please keep in mind the game exists to sell you overpriced Space Marine dolls and they are trying to distance themselves from unironic sexists and racists because they are public company from the UK
>>543920998>You're supposed to come up with your OCBarely even happens anymore, most players don't bother with that and at least 70-80% just use an existing faction rather than take the time and effort to create their own stuff.
>>543920964>added more choking and rape for the deldar romancePfff as if they'd ever do anything like that. marmaduke romance is so udnerwhelming, it's all "and now we're going to do a murder, tee-hee, keep your kids away from the screen", like a 12 year old writing her first smut. Pathetic. I get it, the game would move up to adult only rating, but then why even include such themes if you're not gonna actually explore them
wokies whining about 40k lore makes me think people wouldn't have minded slavery in the US if it wasn't race based
>>543921498>please keep in mind the game exists to sell you overpriced Space Marine dollsso what you're saying is with female dolls I can make them kiss?
>>543921645You can already make them kiss. female minis exist
>>543921645yes but the models are all beaten by an ugly polehammer so I'm not sure why you'd want to
>>543921619They already don't. Modern slavery is a thing and the rest of the world just doesn't a shit though mostly it's because it's happening where they don't have to see it and being a "slave" in some places is better than living normally.
>>543921498>Public company from the UKYou think they would want to hard pivot towards racism then considering how things are going over there.
>>543921498>unironic sexists and racistsThats 90% of their playerbase
What's the best mythic for a blood rager? I'm good aligned so I can't do demon
>>543921829>Deldar released from inquisition custody as rape inflicted on sister of battle wasn't long enough
>>543921829Being rude is not racism, don't be daft
>>543922173>not a demonBoo, Legend I guess.
Make your sister and deldar dolly kiss your space marine or rt dolly with the tabletop. This would solve the whining about romance options!
>>543922173>I'm good aligned so I can't do demonyou can if you go legend or GD at the end
>>543922205But look at all the flags they keep putting up everywhere, is that not racism?
>>543922278Sorry, forgot to add that I'm not gay
>>543922364X
40slop is so fucking tedious, jesus. It attracts some of the dumbest retards as well for some reason. Very unpleasant combination.
>>543906632Its weird to think about how owlcat has almost as much employees as larian. I'm not saying they have to release huge triple A games like bg3 since they have different people working on different projects but you would think there games would feel less unfinished and buggy.
>>543922550if you think that's bad, wait for the afterlight fanbase
>>543922250>>543922278I heard gold dragon sucked. Did that fix it?
>>543922593to be fair on this front owlcat has only released 3 games so far while larian has been around for what, 2 decades now? owlcat are getting better at the actual game making part it's their subject matter and execution that gets worse every game.
>>543922550Still better people than the Pathfinder audience.
>>543922697GD just lacks content but it's perfect for any gish or other split classes. The whole shtick is>you have flaws?>not anymore senpai
>>543922780I just wish they would actually improve on the basics, like combat and encounter design. They are still absolutely horrendous at both.
>>543922934Hmm kinda lame but maybe I'll go for it
who are the good guys in 40k?
>>543923049rogue elements in their respective society are the closest you'll get
>>543923049me
>>543923049Me, a man who's going to die for being one.
>>543922780>getting better at the actual game making partNigga, rt was their most buggy game on release
>>543922593They started with like 30, since then quality has in general not improved, they're just working on releasing slop faster
Litany of hatred is so disgustingly strong. Lasguns are still shit. Nice balance patch Owlcat.
>>543923049all societies in 40k have state mandated suffering. girlyman is pretty decent I guess but he still razed a peaceful and loyal planet his brother ruled just cuz daddy said so.
>>543923049The T'au and then the Craftworld Eldar. They are the only two factions that treat their own people well.
>>543923049Good guys?In 40K?Heh, let me stop you right there, kid. If what you're looking for is some "clean cut" morality within factions or races, well best keep on lookin' cuz ya ain't gonna find it here. WarHammer: 40,000 will take every single expectation you have and completely subvert it.It's the 41st Millennium, let that just sink in a minute ;)And here you just do what you gotta do to survive, period.If that's too much for you to handle then run along back to your little He-Mans and GI Joes because this setting is NOT for babies.
we went from mythic paths to two and a quarter alignments
New thread should be about wookiees and their twi'lek fleshlights.
>>543923049the men Yrliet humiliated
>>543923724>this setting is NOT for babies.how the 40sloppers act here
>>543923553Yeah the balance patch is a joke, if anything the game is easier now with the reworked origin talents and all the extra gear you get. What was even the point? They also didn't even touch stuff that has been ridiculously weak since the beginning, like Meltas, for whatever reason. Bafflingly incompetent and retarded devs. Then again, they are slavs, so we can't expect much.
We're going to start /dhg/ right bros? I can't wait to go there and discuss DH with my brosFOR THA EMPRAAAAAAAR!!!
Any russians can check ruskie media for Dark Heresy leaks?
>>543923728One and two quarter
>tfw TOR will be the last game to ever let you smooch a twilek dolly
Is there anything more cucked than getting a stand-in dolly to smooch and fuck your waifu?Think about it. You spend all this time getting your stuntman-dolly just perfect and hoping that your desired romantic partner will be into him. You're basically asking to watch while your "MC" does what you can't.The worst part is that it's even lower than actual cucking, it's cucking yourself with virtual dolls. If you can't see how bad this is then you're already too far gone.
>>543924103Last game where you're able to have a bdsm romance with a collared twilek too
Well? Where's the new thread?
>>543923756No they are chaotic evil
>>543924815I'm trying to find my cuck image for it, give it a bit
>>543924853Generate one with an NTRMan LoRA
baking in a minute
>>543923976I don't do russian media. Or any media that's not 4chins for that matter
>>543922173Azata, though it might potentially clash with your rp. Incredible might is a massive buff, and with the ring from the dlc, it is absolutely insane. Plus the Azata spellbook is filled with incredibly useful spells, including more stat buffs.
>>543926186why not dvach?
>>543921510I don't get it. 2 out of my 3 armies are my original creations and paint schemes. I do have Dark Angels because I really like their colors and aesthetics and decided to use it.
Where's the thread?
>>543926721on it, give me a sec
Bake thread pls
>>543926479I just started here and saw no reason to move to dvach
new thread pls sirs
If I were on pc I'd bake but I ain't copying and pasting on a fucking touch screen.
>>543927424I went there a few times when I was taking Russian in university, they have better imageboard software. Even simple nice things like video with sound, multiple attachments.You should go and find some crpg-related interesting images or memes or posts and report back
>>543926414Azata might be what I go with but the flavor is kinda eh and I don't like the gay dragon in concept
>>543926892>>543927609>>543927715I said I'm baking just hold on a minute
>>543927782Yeah, that's why I added that caveat. Unless your character is a dainty elf or a female, it might clash with what you are going for.
Camellia has crabs
>>543927927you got a slow ass oven my man
>>543927995those aren't crabs they're vescavor eggs
Pls sir do the needful
>>543928226How did Nurah get into Camellia's drawers to do that?
>>543928456well she got into the KC's drawers, don't think camelliah's would be harder.
>>543927749>You should go and find some crpg-related interesting images or memes or posts and report backI could, but you won't get them anyway because all memes exist in a specific cultural zeitgeist. If it's comletely alien to you, you wouldn't get it
owlin my crap rn
Bake new thread
owlcrap sponsoring a 'tuber i likecute
>>543926479I tried making a post asking for leaks but I can't make the post kek
>>543928941that anon is too slow so I'll do it hold on
I'll bake a thread after I get out of the shower
>>543929276
new thread:>>>00000001>>>00000001>>>00000001
>>543929654
Its over
It never even began
>>543929654This is what I get for trusting a laynigger with the holy Rite of Thread Creation
Yo asking favor from any Russian anon:Go to https://2ch.su/vg/res/50354661.htmlAnd post:Пpивeт, peбятa! Я oбычнo здecь нe cижy и пo-pyccки нe гoвopю (пoльзyюcь GPT), нo хoтeл cпpocить — y вac cлyчaйнo нeт кaких-нибyдь yтeчeк или cлyхoв нacчёт Dark Heresy или втopoгo ceзoнa Rogue Trader? Moжeт, инфopмaции o eщё нe пoкaзaнных cпyтникaх или дeтaлях гeймплeя? Aнглoязычныe фopyмы, пoхoжe, ничeгo нe знaют, кpoмe тoгo, чтo yжe пoкaзaли caми Owlcat.Just wanna ask them about Owlkek leaks, since chances are they might be in the know, but regional block won't let me, guessing they also have the VPN filter 4chan has so don't wanna bother setting that up. Don't need you to do anything else I'll check the thread for any info myself afterwards
Yrliet's sex scene will be in the new thread. Its a hidden scene you only get if you take Idira to Footfall and no one else. You have to run around the entire area four times counter clockwise and let her have a vision in the quarantined district. After that the flag is set for Ytliet's true consummation romance.
no one is baking threads
>>543930478im trying to bake. wait for me....
LIAR!! BURN THE LIAR!
>>543930446To those who wanna bother with this, I can just confirm that the translation is correct and isn't insulting anyone's mom or anything
My hands are too slippery to bake after my showerSorry
THE EMPEROR HAS FORSAKEN US!
fuck this guy, I'll legitimately try to bake a tbread but I'll probably get the stupid 300 s cooldown
>>543930801>stupid 300 s cooldownthats what im dealing with
>>543930862are you legit though? I'm legitimately waiting for it, some asshole anon keeps sayong he'll bake but it's been 15 minutes already.Anyway I readied everything as soon as thr cooldown is done I'll post it
new BREAD >>543931109 >>543931109 >>543931109
