Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines editionWhat is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>543673578>Thread QuestionThoughts on Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines?
Problematic male fantasy
>>543724135Girls like push-up bras too you know
You're a quee-
>>543724019>Thoughts on Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines?https://youtu.be/jWb-mG2Zhcg?si=a8Uo67RLfy3Fdwjb
>>543723512
I miss Star Wars
>>543724259>Imoen meets Halsin
>>543724019Zoomers would be completely baffled by the Therese and Jeanette plot
>>543724458I don't
>>543724019>Thoughts on Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines?Love it. Wish more rpgs did a modern setting like it.
>>543724660In what way
Imoen was always useful to me in 2, rushing spellhold and not doing tob jan would never get his dual hla and become better than her. 2e is weird
>>543725134They wouldn't get that it's one person with a split personality.
Nothing here about adding in hand-holdingI guess they forgot to list it. I'm sure it's there somewhere.
>>543724458
>>543725463You need help
Muka Shaka Baka
>>543725463Excited to do her route without it being completely borked
>>543725532This fishman planet was such a drag. The underwater portions were alright but topside was snooze city
Is it finally time to do the 2nd rogue trader playthrough without bugs that broke my game in act 4? How many dlcs are left?
>>543725757Yeah this one was always annoying. Nice to have it fixed
Every time I remember encounters in kingmaker they're all a drag, every time I remember encounters in wrath they are fun. I guess this is why I can never finish kangz game
>peak condition lets you qualify heavy armour proficiencyI wondered how the fuck people were qualifying for heavy armour proficiency without strength bonuses from origin/class.
>>543725872At least two more DLCsDLC 3:>Trazyn the Necron Lord's Museum of CuriositiesExploring some vault full of all sorts of stuff that is apparently linked to your family somehow from what people are saying. Also includes augments as a gameplay addition.DLC 4:>Processional of the DamnedShip's graveyard.Both of these will add a new companion as well.But they won't be out for a while. Maybe late next year
>>543725463>the face she makes when Marz jams it in without warning
Chaos is a ladder
>>543726285What dogmatic human companions will we get from these Rogue Trader DLCs?
I replayed Bloodlines a few months ago. Been a while since the last time so I went with Malkavian for something I've maybe played once before. 10/10 game. The thing that stands out when you play it, beyond the obvious perfect atmosphere and fun overpowered abilities is how clever it is. It is also both self-aware (this sort of thing played entirely straight is awful) and legitimately creepy at the same time. The dialogue and writing is smart, especially if you compare it to contemporary games, like Kotor, which are infantile by comparison.Obfuscate is busted.
Well, I finished catching up with everyone afterwords, and it was good.I will miss this game. I'm looking forward to trying out whatever the additional thing is, but I'm considering the main game concluded, and it was one of the most satisfying games I've played in a long time. 9/10 for sure.Random points:- I didn't mind the lack of voice acting, but some people might. Not having it probably led to them being able to go a little more crazy with the amount of dialogue and branching/conditional.- There's a lot of reading, but a lot of it is optional. I like reading so this was very good for me. The writing was good, and somewhat-often the feeling that it was accounting for something you said or did.- At first I thought the money we were making was for everyone and didn't like that I couldn't see the crew's equipment, but there's not enough money for it, and their equipment upgrades over time anyhow. So you are meant to just shop for yourself.- The Shadowrun system has some big flaws imo. There was almost no reason whatsoever for me to invest in anything other than Charisma, and in that menu to get each row as high as possible. This feels like bad design because then why give me the options? Likely different in tabletop, where you might have need of more diverse skills.- I often forgot the details of a mission since I'd accept all available ones, and you can only find it on the mission computer, which was annoying a few times.- I think I once got a message from Strangler Bao about "Forget it, I'll do it" ? So maybe I took too long on a mission, but none seemed to be time sensitive.- The decker stuff I didn't need to have at all, not really enjoyable.- Combat was very easy even on Hard, felt a bit lame coming off of JA3 but I still enjoyed it- Great characters
>>543727868Agreed about the hacking. Not particularly fun playing frogger basically.
Cant wait until solasta 2 drops so this general finally has something to talk about.
>>543727868>"Forget it, I'll do it"Poor max...
>>543727868>There was almost no reason whatsoever for me to invest in anything other than CharismaThat's how it works yes you pick an archetype and you invest in it mostly, you just chose to play shaman
>>543727868>- I think I once got a message from Strangler Bao about "Forget it, I'll do it" ? So maybe I took too long on a mission, but none seemed to be time sensitive.That's you getting maximum law killed btw, he does tell you to deal with it fast (by he I mean bao) but in reality the trigger is giving him info, you can "save" info to give it to him all in one go so the quest triggers after you got more cash, it's a bit silly like that but on a regular playthrough you wouldn't know, you'd just see it as the natural progression of slowly giving him info and him being very open with it online because he doesn't understand the shadowrun internet
>>543727868>>543728721Oh and adding onto this, tabletop also has the moneygating that this game has apparently, I read a lot of stuff about shadowrun after playing hongkong and I saw this topic come up a lot when it comes to double dipping as both a hacker and a rigger, the issue being the price.The rigger book was really fun to read btw I read some handbooks for the actual game, it has a lot of cool little lore bits (more like lore texts since they're anything but short, i recommend it just for fun)Cool ass universe
>>543724019I have replayed bloodlines at least once every since it released, I think I am clinically insane
>>543729752If you like the setting I'd pirate bloodlines 2, it's not that good and it's also not a sequel to bloodlines 1 outside of in the name (it's not an RPG) but it's cool-ish if you like the VTM world and don't mind a 5-6/10 game
>Archers with +100 attack bonus and roll 300+ dmg at critical hit.>Most enemies immune to entire classes of spells.>Some enemies have "hidden" immunity that do not appear on their stats page.>Some enemies will make you stunned/staggered/knocked down every time you hit them; ignores SR, extremely high DC.>Enemies have permanent abilities that force you to roll every ST 3 times and take the worst result.>Boss auto reflects every single spell you cast back at you, including dispels.>Boss with 150+AC, 70+ touch AC, 70+ all save.>Mandatory puzzles that make Nenio's final quest look fun. How are you WotR chads fine with this? It's not fun. It's just tedious save scumming.
>>543730159They sell an item in the first tavern if you're somehow filtered by missile weapons
>>543728383>>543728873Ahh, poor guy. Sorry Max. Your heart was in the right place, but honestly after getting to know him a bit I feel like such a fate was in his future inevitably.>>543728721>That's how it works yes you pick an archetype and you invest in it mostlyWell sure, but that's not a very good defense of it. Might as well just say "You got a level and your Cha/conjure stuff went up." I spent a bit of karma early on Quickness and Pistols that was a total waste, really. I'm not one to minmax or something by any means, but just picking your lane and sticking in it completely feels a bit bad. There should be more synergy between traits and milestones. There is a little. For example you need high Quickness to use the highest version of Haste. And Quickness relates to dodging, and Body relates to HP which everyone can use... But over-all, not my favorite system I've ever used. Maybe better in tabletop.>>543729240It is a cool universe, the handbooks sound enjoyable.>>543730159At least half of what you have here is exaggeration that makes it come across as disingenuous. If you're finding yourself needing to save scum so much, maybe turn the difficulty down.
>>543730159>be me>autistic lorefag>enjoy kingmaker>look up pathfinder lore>find their outsiders>"proteans? these guys are kickass.">wotr announced>mythics announced>think it would be sick to have a protean mythic>no dice>sad>season pass comes out>talks about the maelstrom>ohshitohfuck.wav>ends up being one of the worst DLCs ever>easily owlcats worstI don't know why I expected any different. reverse midas ass niggas in this studio.
>>543730547If you ain't playing on core or up, you shouldn't be playing WOTR.
>>543730547The tabletop is insanely bloated. I think pure shaman is probably the most boring to build in HK thoughMy caster heavily invested in will for spellcasting and a bit of adept for perma-cover when I'm standing in ley lines, cha for face stuff and totems, and body for cyberware.
>>543730159Come home, 5e man
Hasbro is looking to make the first AAA WEG based on the D&D Erotic Player Handbook
>>543732563now it's really Larian's time to shine
>>543732684>tfw not a gnome chad
Canonically smarter than Valerie btw
>>543733560>Ryland
Is it just me or is mounted combat in wotr really busted?
Linzie what the fuck does that mean
>>543730159You buff then you click
Deekin romance
>>543733560Tummy
Is titan fighter a meme class?
What's the female equivalent of male human fighter with sword?
>>543735281A spellcaster of some sort
>>543735281female human fighter with a sword
Kineticist, gendarme or hagriven?
>>543735281the kind cleric or the haughty sorceress
Oh wow Pyromancer Bladedancer is still the best one wow
>>543735281Female elven sorceress
>>543735636For some reason drills popped into my head and the need for correction was immense
>>543735281200 year old virgin elf cleric of some harmless god
>>543736158Do her ears wiggle?
was playing spellforce 3 again and thought this is pretty good. then i remembered how overtuned the infinite resource rts parts are
>>543735573Is hagriven the bloodrager one? That one is really cool because you get to haste both claws, makes for a really cool claw-based character
Why no Astartes origin RT?
>>543736182If you romance her
>>543736240Ye, its the only way to make claws kinda vialbe since shifter is just a druid unless you pick fiendflesh, which for some fucking reason sacrifices all its defenses for... fucking nothingAnd even hagriven kinda suffers from this but atleast you can set your claws on fire n shit
>>543737017Intense snuggling sessions while praying to Shelyn, followed by big happy family correctionI will also be biting those wigglers
High elf, wood elf, or dark elf? Why?
>>543737578Which one has the wiggliest wigglers?
Why no Eldar origin RT?
>>543737578high elf = ruins civilizationswood elf = useless tree huggersdark elf = did nothing wrongthis is true across all settings btw
>>543737578Wood elfpissmer are trash and dungmer are retards
who else is high af right now? Now that the update is out i can do my soldier priest run, going iconclast this time since i havent done that route yet.
Anon I don't think you should be getting high af quite so often That way madness lies
This anon serves the ruinous powers >>543738000
>>543729871I'd say it's at least a 7-8. I'm pretty impressed with it considering the game's budget and the dev hell it was in. It's basically AA Cyberpunk. Fan expectations were way to high for this game considering it would never have gotten Cyberpunk's budget.
i forgot how much of a little bitch he is.
>>543738581jesus christ the first general thread archived with 50 posts >>543513385does no one play that game??
>>543738739Doesnt it try its very best not to be an rpg?The audience it targeted didnt care and the audience it was originally meant for wants it hung from a cross, take a guess why nobody cares
>>543738739Why would you make a general for a linear single player action story game. Why would anyone go looking for a general for that.
>>543738592He has a really whiny voice too (unless I'm misremembering)
>I find combat basically impossible when you're facing 2+ enemies without cheesing it somehow. There doesn't seem to be a block at all, just a dodge, and the 'parry' is some gay thing where you dodge into people. The Tremere disciplines are actually pretty decent minus the teleport, but their use is so limited, you really just have to feed constantly. When I first saw the abilities screen I thought they at least added some more nuance to disciplines, but then I realized each track is just a clan's one discipline, so everyone just ends up with the same character anyways. That's really gay and lame. Same with character customization, it's really just some makeup and one of four hair styles but in multiple colors, I thought they'd go a little more in depth with it. Feeding seems like kind of a chore, I don't see any way to really lure anyone anywhere, and every alley seems to have a kissing couple and 3+ hobos looking at each other, it really seems like you're just meant to feed in combat constantly.vtmb sisters I don't feel so good...
>>543739219>3+ hobos looking at each otherRealistic San Fran 2025
>>543739219I don't know how you'd have trouble with the combat
>>543738739I don't careIn fact I'm just here for Warhammer to be honest. I guess honorary 40k like kotor2 are ok too, I played it like 3 times.
>>543739496If you like 40k there's an FTL knockoff called Void War that is 40k in all but name. It's not quite as in-depth as FTL but basically the same gameplay with a few tweaks (much bigger emphasis on boarding actions)
>>543739963I know, I boughted and played it already
>>543740039It's pretty great isn't itI beat it twice since I got it a few days ago. Different enough from FTL to be interesting. The warp power to teleport enemies to your own ship to eliminate them at leisure was fun.
Ice blasts or lightning blasts?Also what is blue fire? just hotter fire?
I wish there was a way to make Yrliet take off that stupid chin thing.She'd be pretty cute in her new dress without that thing.
>>543739963"God King" doesn't sound right especially with all the "Empire" referencesThey should have called him the Emperor of All Mankind and taken their chances with GW.
>cant use the heroic act before the boss fightlame
>>543724019would've rogue trader been better with actual nids rather than genestealers?
If you're going flamer do you need perception or can you just pump your ballistics skill?
>>543741004On a related note I think there's a talent to use demolition skill to determine flamer damage.
Why do I get the feeling your """advisor""" is going to advise me to only do things that will benefit you especially after you just told me you're planning on using me as deterrent against Surtova
>>543742236why are you that guy from elden ring
Sister showed me some Babymetal songs and their outfits reminded me of battle dressesI want more battle dresses as amour options for women
>>543724019>Thoughts on Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines?Cringe game in a cringe setting only liked by cringelords
>>543732684Oh I remember the guy who posted these on larian forum. Wasn't he called a creepy pedo by the other people?
>>543737786Is this a serious question, or do you think you're being incredibly funny?
>>543744789I am always serious
>>543738000You stole jimmy's face
>>543740739No. Genestealers are a thousand times more interesting concept than space bugs/ I'm glad they went with this. I only with that the encounter on the crashed ship had more than 3 enemies and actually felt like you were being overwhelmed by a swarm of them
>>543742236That's a correct assessment. The Surtova broad is going to do thesame, so pick the only real option
>>543744640can't imagine why
>>543744221Bigger question, why is he and abadar-worshipper?
>>543744221I'm playing a warpriest and he was the main example I could think of >>543745297Abadar is all about building civilization which is basically what Kingmaker is about so I thought it fitting>>543745178You're probably playing me but I'll probably go with him the old lady is too sassy
>>543740192Yes, if only because there is basically no competition to FTL. I expected for it to be a quick cash grab, but devs keep updating it constantly adding new content. It has some QOLs added and new content except for a curious lack of Drones. There are only notImperials and notChaos now, maybe they will add Xenos later. Like notTau with Drones
>>543744885Rogue trader is a position given to troublesome mostly nobles with the intention of getting rid of them while making it look like a promotion. Eldar are not citizens of the imperium, so they can't be rogue traders
>>543745938But why can't I be an ork?
>>543745690And if they put in notDar they can just call them "Eldar" since it was discovered the name is not copyrightable
>>543746034same reason
>>543746232What about a squat?They're human
Argenta is so broken now that she does even more bolter damage.
>>543747704Not sure actually. Abhumans are considered lesser citizens so most likely not
>>543747743
>>543747743The WP damage to attacks priest thing should really have been fixed before the patch was released. She can do like 30k bursts which is insane.
Im legitimately convinced owlcat doesnt play test there games. This balance patch didn't balance shit.
For DH hey're going to replace Argenta with a dour and grumpy middle aged sister and make her romancable. They'll expect you to be happy with this.Yrliet will be replaced with a friendly and inquisitive harlequin female who is pretty new at her job and is interested in learning about you and the human way of life. She tries to talk in rhyme but gets confused easily so she gives up. She will make romantic advances but your character will always reject her.
>make her romancablethey won't>friendly and inquisitive harlequin femaleyou're not getting oneNow kill yourself asap
Sawyer (the Obsidian guy) was right about romances.
>>543748897What's Obsidian?
>>543749109pillars and new vegas
You all keep shitting on Larian but I don't see any other AAA studio making better CRPGs.
>>543749109The pseudonym of this one crazy guy who pretends to be a whole game studio
>>543745051they really aren't tbqh. a swarm of aliens that belong to a hivemind from beyond the galaxy and which interacts with the warp in a very different way than the rest of the races > cultists worshipping themthe genestealers could've been an insurrection from within the own empire due to how fucking dogshit life in the imperium is and little would change. you can't really say the same for the nids, they are entirely their own thing and the one race that actually feels ALIEN in this scifi setting.i will agree the genestealer encounter in the base was one of the cooler ones though. a bit less so on my second run because i was basically making it retreat every turn and just walking towards the exit, but still.
>>543749436truf
>buffed all the origins>just made a psyker again
Xbox dropped the outer worlds 2 interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zabOdlAJnoU
>>543749673Genestealers are an an enjoyable metaphor for useful idiots who are driven into revolution by outsiders who see them as tools. It makes it that much more interesting to know that they're going to be eaten along with all the rest. Bugs from space by themselves are just bugs from space. But their interaction with their human dupes is interesting.
>>543750564>Bugs from space by themselves are just bugs from spaceaight bro give this a read and come back to me
>>543750093No one cares
>>543750028That's because instead of bringing the other origins to the same lvls as psyker and arbites that interact differently with other archetypes they just gave them bloated stats. Who the fuck cares
Larian=LeBron James Obsidian=Micheal JordanOwlcat=Kobe
>Thought the estrogen line in VTMB2 was just shitposting>It's realWhy do I keep playing this even the general fucking died
So did they finally fix the heratic route?
>>543752159Can't you just go to /v/ if you want to bait tortanicposting
>>543752357I mean I don't really care about tranny representation in vidya, I just thought it was a bit cringe
>>543734241>Linzie read kobold x mite yaoi.>>543733560Bros you have no idea how much I miss Amiri.
>>543740739Nids are just a swarm of big locusts.Genestealer cults combine xenomorphs, secret cults, body horror/mutants.
Are flamer and melta weapons good now?
>pathfinder wotr is a slog to play with constant start & stop and pre-buffing>bg3 seems to have really bad companions and to shit on prior bg games>already beaten rogue traderWhat RPGs are there even to play now
How much longer until swordhaven is fully out?
>>543753070Heard Underrail's goodPillars of Eternity 1 and 2 are also decentShadowrun's been talked about here recently as well
>>543749673>you don't get it bro a mindless bug swarm is soooooooo interestingok, whatever, go jerk off to swarm porn
>>543753070shadowrun dragonfall/hong kong, wasteland 3, dark envoy, colony ship, and expedition 33 are some good contemporary rpg's.I'm doing a replay of rogue trader after the recent patch.bg3 is good. it doesn't "shit on" prior games except for Viconia for some strange reason. Not sure why they screwed her over. Jaheira and Minsc were treated fine so idk what happened there.I'm also waiting on new arc line, dark heresy, whatever larian is doing, solasta2, zero company, the expanse, and afterlight, so there are some upcoming ones that look fun too.
>>543753813>NO we NEED another imperium subfaction that shows how shitty it is!! and it HAS to be the most overdone shit in american media too!!! le scrappy revolutionaries crushed down by their own hopes!!!!!!i just want some cool scifi kino nigga not this slop
Without cuckfag mental illness, which of the less popular modern crpgs have at least ok romances?By not popular I mean not mainstream answers like Owlcat, Obsidian etc.
>>543754015Orks are Nids but more interesting.Genestealers and their cults are by far the most interesting and unique part of Nids.Even Tau are way more interesting than base Nids.
>>543750732Autistic prehistoric vampires in space are just autistic prehistoric vampires in space
>>543752671Yeah especially the horror of someone who looks and sounds human but is just a jumble of biomass inside. It's like The Thing.
>>543754015Genestealers don't show how shitty the Imperium isThey show that for all its faults there are things out there that are even worse. Revolution isn't simple or easy and doesn't work out the way you planned.
Fuck no, they just messed with some stats and cleaned up Yrliet's flags. Also four new portraits.
>>543754406>filtered by the vampire shitfunny how that happens while talking to someone about 40k. it's really not about the vampires anyways>>543754402orks are nids but more humane and goofy. they're more interesting as a faction perhaps, but not as an alien faction.>Even Tau are way more interesting than base Nids.that's just plain wrong. they're the most basic bitch faction in the setting by far. the only cool thing they have are the mechs and unique way of travel>>543754609>They show that for all its faults there are things out there that are even worsenigga that's quite literally every single faction in the setting outside the tau>Revolution isn't simple or easy and doesn't work out the way you planned.exactly what i fucking meant. that has been the most basic bitch overdone plot ever if you've watched any sort of american media within the last half a century, perhaps even longer really. fucking FTL stood out (storywise) to people because you were actually playing the regimen rather than the revolutionaries. imagine how fucking done to death it must be for that to be the case
>>543754985>it's really not about the vampires anywaysAll I remember was that everyone on the ship had something wrong with his or her personality and they had a tame vampire who was a sociopath.Also the aliens only moved in the instant of blurred vision when you moved your eyes.Imagine being stuck beyond the orbit of Neptune with these fags
>>543753950>expedition 33Not a crpg tho
40kfags just need to accept that the Tau are the protagonists
Is BG3 done with content patches, is the game complete now?
>>543755401that's the baseline of the plot, buncha weirdos got sent out to make first contact with aliens and see what's up. the meta reason as to why every character in the book has something wrong with them is because the book is trying to make the point that all consciousness is is just training wheels to learn shit and overindulging in it is a weakness of the human mind, not a benefit.the aliens, who'd you normally call a swarm of locusts, are nonconscious and due to this extremely intelligent. everything they do is on instinct, they have a very complex external simulation of the world but basically a nonexistant internal version of themselves. The vampires are used to demostrate what a human with a way lower degree of conciousness can be able to archieve, and in the end it doesn't matter because it was just the ship using him to give orders to the humans since they'd rather take them from a hyper predator that they're genetically obliged to fear rather than an unthinking machine.>Evolution has no foresight. Complex machinery develops its own agendas. Brains—cheat. Feedback loops evolve to promote stable heartbeats and then stumble upon the temptation of rhythm and music. The rush evoked by fractal imagery, the algorithms used for habitat selection, metastasize into art. Thrills that once had to be earned in increments of fitness can now be had from pointless introspection. Aesthetics rise unbidden from a trillion dopamine receptors, and the system moves beyond modeling the organism. It begins to model the very process of modeling. It consumes ever-more computational resources, bogs itself down with endless recursion and irrelevant simulations. Like the parasitic DNA that accretes in every natural genome, it persists and proliferates and produces nothing but itself. Metaprocesses bloom like cancer, and awaken, and call themselves I.
>>543756051It was done a while ago
>>543756051yes
is the new Masquerade game really that bad?I heard its not even a proper rpg
>>543756051Yeah apart from small bugfix patches
>>543754247If you expand to not strictly traditional crpg's, I loved a few of the romances in swtor. Don't be tricked by it being an mmo, it's made by bioware when they were in he middle of the mass effect and dragon age franchise lifespans, so it's an rpg at heart with mmo framework. Kira, Nadia, Lana, and others are really nice characters.If you say not mainstream, I assume you've already played mass effect and dragon age, which always had an emphasis on romance. same with bg3 and divinity os2. fallout4 andstarfield are mainstream.The Persona franchise comes to mind.Another rpg adjacent game that had romances was Disciples Liberation.Palia is a sims social/building game that has a romance system with the citizens of the island, and it has some exploration and skills leveling gameplay that is vaguely rpg adjacent but I wouldn't call it an rpg.I also feel like there are some VN's that people who like rpg's and romance in general would appreciate. Not all VN's are just clicking on dialogue options, there are some rpg elements to some of these, and some even have decisions and branching endings.
>there's psyker power armor now
>>543754985>that's just plain wrong. they're the most basic bitch faction in the setting by far.Anon, Nids are literally just locust. They are the most generic "evil bug alien you've seen in a million different games, books, movies and cartoons".Tau are a caste based mind manipulated race that embrace other aliens to expand (kroot, vespid, humans, votann, nicassar, etc) and are very adaptible. They have no religion (which is actually in-line with what the Emperor wanted for the imperium) but allow other factions to have theirs, with some exceptions. Etc.There is way more going on with the Tau than Nids by a mile.
>>543756051yeah and it's shit
outer worlds 2 coming out. Are we hyped?
>>543757015No.
>>543756724>mind manipulated raceif you're gonna pretend like the hive mind shit and the implications the nids even existing outside the galaxy mean in the first place isn't there then at the very least don't pull up with your bullshit headcanon about the tau actually being/mindcontrolling people
>>543757015they would've had to fix the writing for that and we've seen the opposite of that with the marketing videos. apparently they wised up that the corpo joke was ran into the ground within the first 2 minutes minutes of it's 40 hour duration but not that pretty much none of the humor in the game landed either and that the setting really just wasn't that interesting
>>543756326>is the new Masquerade game really that bad?Positives>good dialogue and writing>good characters>good story>solid combat>nice visuallyNegatives>skill progression is low, you unlock most skill early on and don't really get anything new>sidequest structure often boils down to walking to different places and talking to people>not a lot of customization optionsSo it depends on what you value and how you play games. If you're the kind of person that plays one game at a time for long periods at a time you'll probably get burned out.
>>543756724>They have no religionthey literally do, its literally the greater good, its literally undergoing a religious schism with the farsight enclave
>>543756724>does he know?
>>543757015>outer worlds 2 coming out. Are we hyped?Of course, it'll be the first decent RPG I've played in a long time. >>543757141Nids being mind-controlled simple animals is not interesting.An entire sentient race being secretly mind controlled and is the only reason the Tau made it this far is more interesting. As a necessary evil.You really want to die on the hill of generic bug aliens that just consume are this super unique and interesting faction, huh?
>>543757334>they literally do, its literally the greater goodA philosophy is not religion. Humans in the faction prayed to the greater good as a god but are hunted down and killed by Tau.
Nids are like the reapers. They’re a fun existential threat looming on the horizon but the second you actually have to deal with them they become mundane and boring,
>>543757682they literally spawned a warp deity
>>543757748This but unironically
>>543757523>An entire sentient race being secretly mind controlled and is the only reason the Tau made it this far is more interesting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKeKuaJ4nlw>Nids being mind-controlled simple animals is not interesting.the nids are part of that being ya dolt, it's not one or the other. the hivemind commands, shapes, births and deploys them, it makes them adapt and change to better fit whatever they're trying to swallow. it's like saying an ork by himself is not interesting because he's just a dumb brute, like yeah no fucking shit retard, what are you even saying here?
>>543730159>inevitable excessThat's the one that happens right before the final boss, right?I thought it was pretty easy. I didn't read any of the enemy abilities nor did I do any strategizing. I just stacked all my buffs and auto attacked shit to death. I played on 1 difficulty level below unfair so maybe it becomes exponentially harder on unfair.There are WAY harder fights in the early levels when you have to fight dudes with 40 AC while you're level 3.
>>543757818>they literally spawned a warp deityAs I said, the humans did which is why they are being hunted down and killed.For the Tau the greater good is a philosophy, but the humans in the faction default to religion and prayer. Some even still pray to the Emperor. That the Tau are ok with, but they are not ok with treating the greater good as a religion and a god, especially considering that it lead to the creation of a warp entity.The greater good thing was inspired by asian philosophy and shit, similar to things like Confucianism. Not religion. The entire point is that it's not a religion to set them apart from other factions.
>>543757748i don't disagree but this is only because the setting must be in a perpetual stalemate and games workshop either isn't interested in or simply doesn't have writers capable of developing interesting genuinely alien psychology. again just look at blindsight for an example on how to do that, there's a lot of shit you can do simply by using them as a fold for a thought experiment on the human mind. that's what aliens should be about IMO and the only ones that kinda come close to this are necrons due to how the experience time and death
>>543757321so...what kind of genre do you think this game is? because it doesnt really sound like a masquerade RPG
>>543758193>Confucianismthats literally a religion
>>543755401>Imagine being stuck beyond the orbit of Neptune with these fagsAt least you could always visit Pluto, the Ninth Planet.
>>543756052That does sound pretty good. I'll have to re-read it. I was pretty young when I read it first.
>>543758193I remember that Tau'va had features of all of the allied races of the Tau. Human hands, Kroot grabbers etc. Like how the main part of china is Han bugmen but the ethnicities on the periphery are capable of spiritualism.
>>543758965i genuinely cannot understand what they were thinking with those suits and hairstylesi understand making good looking hair is hard so i can let that pass buyt come the fuck on was it really so hard to make cool sci fi armor? stop just slapping so much shit on it, it has to MEAN something and create an unique form for fuck's sake, maybe give it a bit of color at least
Remember when vtmb baited you into thinking that it would be a stealth/dialogue game and then made you run a gauntlet of dogshit combat missions for the last third of the game
>>543758193
>>543758053>doesn't even know basic tau lore and flaunts his ignorance>claims someone made it upOh boy, I can tell I'm really wasting my time here.The entire backstory of the faction STARTS with this. They were a violent and disorganized faction until the Ethereals showed up to unify (read: mind manipulate) everyone under the greater good. This is all further emphasized all over Tau lore, even with characters like Farsight that branched off and involve no Ethereals. Not only are they more aggressive and free thinking and has commented multiple times on this.There's videos, wikis and books all covering this shithttps://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Commander_FarsightThere is nothing I hate more than stubborn ignorance, which you reek of.
>>543758456>>543759296God I hate illiterate retards. Too bad this site is filled by them.I try to dumb things down for you idiots and not write walls of text and still you idiots misunderstand (probably intentionally) all of it.The Greater Good is not a religion and not Confucianism (which isn't a religion either, but some treat it as one). I said similar as in it was inspired.But why am I wasting my time on people have are clueless about the lore, not very bright and too close-minded for basic discussion. I have no interest in wasting hours of my life trying to make a blind man see.
>>543753070play wotr with bubblebuff mod, suddenly it's the best game to release since 2010
>>543724660I just watched a let's play where that got revealed and was surprised the guy playing didn't predict it, especially since he's playing malkpersonally I saw it coming a mile away when I first played back in 2007 or whatever
>>543758351>so...what kind of genre do you think this game is? because it doesnt really sound like a masquerade RPGI never cared about genre names. But if you want to be accurate, it would probably be a Narrative-driven Action Adventure.
>>543759324I'm only matching the same energy you're giving me with the nids. You wanna pretend like they're just all wild animals, that the giant fucking conciousness that literally uses "synapse" for it's range area and it casts a fucking shadow in the warp doesn't exist? That it doesn't adapt and develop behavior far too complex for some mindless beast? It's just a locust swarm? Sure. Then let me go right ahead and say that the T'au being mind controlled has never actually been confirmed whatsoever. For all we know it really could just be some dumb fucking pheromonoes, or propaganda, or even nothing but biased POVs, etc etc.
>>543760309This anon is probably a genestealer
>>543759591Greater Good clearly represents a mish-mash of confucian thought. It's all about practicalities of achieving harmony but on matters of the soul it is silent.
>>543761153I only occassionally worship my third arm emp every other sunday, what's wrong with that? the TAU let everyone worship whoever they want so what's the big deal you FASCIST
>>543753070Armoured Commander II
>>543762161Is that the thing you get very early? Permanent -1 psy rating effectively is pretty bad if this scales multiplicatively instead of additively
>>543762336You get it from machine on navigator space station in Act 1
>>543762161>Idira on shimmering emulsionI am growing stronger...
>>543762336It's +1, not -1
>>543759324Wait the Ethereals just appeared one day?Sus
>>543762161Did they ever actually reveal the psychic phenomena table?It's really fucking annoying that we can't actually see what rolls are being made behind the scenes for this shit.
Im in Lost Chapel right now, did I miss out on upgrading Radiance? Its like a cold steel masterwork right now.
Is Kibellah (my beloved) ruined now? Nerfs seemed harsh.
>>543764185Have you talked to a blacksmith in the tavern in Kenabres? That's the first time. The second time will be in Drezen
>>543759591>and not Confucianism (which isn't a religion either, but some treat it as one).I don't understand why retards like you are so willing to speak confidently on things you know nothing about.
Larian's upcoming space game
>>543765006You can tell she prefers the company of human males.
>>543762672Do you even think
>Necrontech lasgunLet me guess act 5 exclusive? I cannot wait to use it for 1 fight.
What to play now that I finished Shadowrun: Hong Kong, after I play the add-on thing?>Shadowrun: Dragonfall>Tides of Numenara>Expeditions: Rome>ATOM RPG>Age of Decadence>Avadon, Avadon 2, Avernum>Serpent in the Staglands>Skald>finish BG1 replay, finish Pillars replay, finish WotR replay>(crpg-ish) QFG4, Spellforce 3, Shadow Tactics, Vagrus, Pentiment
The fact they gave Malice an actual portrait out of nowhere in the new patch gives me hope that Owlcat is aware of how popular he was, which might lead to them adding a Sslyth companion in Dark Heresy. Being able to go around with a gaggle of actual alien freaks as buddies in a 40k game would be so kino
>>543765006This doesn't look like Subverse
>>543766219>still no malice companionI'll just have to recruit that retard maraturd, wait till he gives me a sslyth pet, then boot him and pretend the sslyth is Malice
tell me owlniggers, all the shitty posts you made, have you even played one real rpg?
>>543766168Wouldn't Shadowrun: Dragonfall be the logical next thing to play? Unless you feel like it would be good to play something other than Shadowrun inbetween, in which case why not finish the replay that's the furthest along?Skald's also pretty fun, though I never ended up finishing it for some reason. Probably due to the art style
>>543766219He was honorable for whatever he was
>>543766219>sslyth are known to be mercenaries willing to work for so much as food and sex>can't recruit malice????
>>543766219>Sslyth companion in Dark HeresyThis shit is so fucking stupid. Why does a Rogue Trader game have so few xenos and the ones we do get are worthless cunts.
>>543737578high elf mage wifewood elf ranger wifedark elf rogue wife
>>543766714Honestly the fact that the Dark Eldar companion wasn't a Sslyth or an Incubus, which are the most "trustworthy" people in Cumrag, is fucking crazy to me. Incubi are basically the closest thing you can get to honorable warriors amongst Deldar, and the Sslyth are hedonistic mercs. I could see either of those joining up with a Rogue Trader for various reasons.
>>543767181Give qrd on incubi
>>543737578Dark Elf that made the spider goddess mad and got turned into a Drider. Double points if she sounds like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCXid5NhUCs
>>543767470is that image from a vidya?
>>543767442Bloodthirsty but disciplined mercenaries that are often employed as bodyguards by powerful people in Commorragh because they aren't backstabby dicks like most Dark Eldar. They just like killing shit in straight up fights.
>>543767442The one bodyguards in cumrag that won't backstab you because they're super autistic about it
>>543767957>>543767741Uh. I think i've had my fill of autistic elves desu
>>543768042They've got the good kind of elf autism. The evil Lawtist kind.
Why do people here seethe when they see a black character in rpgs, but drop it the moment if it turns out she's a hot woman.
>>543767442Edgy Aspect WarriorsObsessed with killing and murderAs such actually venerate Khaine, unlike other Deldar who are fedora tippersHave to murder another Aspect Warrior and crush his soulstone as a right of passage. It doesn't count if he remains safely in a soulstone. Yes, that Yvraine simp Visarch was first an Exarch, so an advanced Aspect Warrior, but then joined Incubi Order so he had to murder another Craftworlder and send him to Slannesh. Initiate also often has to kill another Incubi to get his armor. And then if he wants to rise in ranks he has to kill his superiors in combat. Often with a gimmick like skinning his entire enemy in few hits.They aren't actually Kabalites and don't care for ruling and politics. Just their killing autism and besting opponents. This makes them more trustworthy
>>543768757Because when they add black characters but actually try to make them cool and likable instead of insufferable freaks like Seelah then people like them. Ekun has based and he was as black as fuck. Him being fantasy African black was also far less egregious than Seelah just sounding like some hood rat Latisha with cornrows dropped into fantasy crusades.
>>543768772arent dark reapers the khaine aspect warriors
>>543765006something's missing
>>543768772That cape with the the fur covering his shoulder looks rad as fuck.
>>543768757>Hot black women in crpgName one cause I can't think of one
>>543768757there has yet to be one of thoserpgs seem to home in on the uggos for those
>>543769284The black chick from Dragon Age Inquisition was pretty cute in my opinion.
>>543769284hexxat from BG2
>>543769519Who?
>>543769284Pallegina>>543769725>Who?pic rel
>>543769823Chocolate Nubian beauty.
avowed but in space
>>543769823I don't like the fact that she flirts with Aerie.
>>543768757Because a lot of them are made ugly on purpose and given american style of speaking to be annoying. You can have normal black characters like Ekun. The progressive devs seem more racist than chuds when it comes to blacks.
>>543769823nta but while Pallegina looks pretty (and I personally like the avian stuff) her personality makes her very unattractive imo
>>543769823i don't remember this character existing
>>543770076awoo'ed by in space
>>543737578A hybrid of the three
>>543762161Good change, the drugs you used to get were such garbage. Although I liked the one that makes you immune to toxic damage for a single combat during that Anvers encounter in the sewers.
Dragon Age: The Veilguard in space
Tremere girls are weird wicca autists who only bathe once every three nights, if they remember, and don't shave Venture woman are refined, elegant, like warm silk in human form, and smell like burning sugar and flowers.
what is the difference between cucking and NTR in crpgs?
>>543770317Beamdog's donut steel
>>543769150All Aspect Warriors are emulating Khaine. This is why Incubi are more like them than other Deldar. Also their ultimate leader Drazhar is blatantly originally a Phoenix Lord who started Striking Scorpion temple, but got too radical for Craftworlders.
Is the best Argenta ending getting her to kill herself? I never tried Fury.
>>543770507>ask for this type of armor design again>get called a coomer newfag by tourists
>>543770751One is English, the other is tranime, like lesbian vs yuri. Tranime people are constantly signaling to each other with forced out of place loan words.
>>543766630>it would be good to play something other than Shadowrun inbetweenThat's what I was thinking, though I'm not tired of the setting not by a long shot so maybe that's what I'll do.
>>543770751>cuckingin 99% of cases is imagined, something like "female character spoke one sentence to another man, i am being cuckolded".>netorarecucking, japan
>>543770507Tummy
>>543771169Hong Kong is ways better than Dragonfall, so I suggest you play it. A new shadowrun game is long overdue. What the fuck are those retards doing
>>543771026I'm of the opinion that bikini armor is only appropriate for slutty evil sorceress type characters. If I can see her belly button than she better be conspiring with demons, performing vile rituals and coercing tribes of monsters into becoming her evil minions.
>>543771419Hong Kong is like reading a book
>>543770961I always got repentia ending for her
>>543771419I'm doing the after-game bonus thing. Exciting to not know anything about it, not length or anything. I'd rather not know also. I'm guessing few hours but I have no idea. I wish this studio had kept making more like this.
>>543771419there will not be any new Shadowrun gamesit is in IP hell split over several people and companies, mainly Microsoft who has no interest in continuing such thingsHBS was able to make the Shadowrun and Battletech games because they were led by Weissman who is a co-creator of both IPs and has a good working relationship with Microsofthe has not been at HBS for a few years now, since before Lamplighter's League, and he's just doing AI scam shit last I heard
>>543771552This isn't armor it's just caster comfort wear since all defenses are magical so it makes sense in this case
Why can't Owlcat just cap stat stacking? It's literally the main thing that's making the game braindead easy, Kib, Argenta etc. wouldn't shit out gorillions of damage even with officer if this was limited.
>>543769823I saw that pic as a head with legs for some reason
>>543771719Yes, like a really good book that you actively participate in creating.
>>543772076you don't want the game to actually be challenging. there's just way too fucking battles in this game, imagine if you had to spend more than 2 turns on EVERY single trash battle in the game.
>>543772368I actually would want it. I like the base combat. I liked eary game where combat wasn't one turn and done more than insta rape everything late game.
>>543772368To be honestly when it comes to CRPGs, or RPGs in general, the combat is the part I care about the least. I just see combat as something I have to deal with to get the actual enjoyable parts of role playing games, which is making decisions and having character moments.
>>543771916While I am enjoying the setting, it's really the team that delivered. I don't need another Shadowrun game, more like "I need another game like Shadowrun: Hong Kong". Though I wouldn't mind if it were SR, it's fun.It's so hard to keep track of anyone "responsible" for games that I like unless they're a very widely known name. Like how Za/um split and I have no idea which of the 4 or whatever games that various people are working on to pay attention to.
>>543772583this is why my favorite rpg is disco elysium tbqh
>>543772583CRPG players are very heterogenous on this. It goes to show that it's a very young genre still defining itself. Now we even have "Disco-like" which many who play CRPGs would understand.And I think the idea of 'genre' itself is maybe more harmful than helpful when the fans are so heterogenous. As opposed to like "FPS" where you know what you're signing up for, and you're likely on board with what they're offering.
>>543772916It's not an RPG
>>543773035>visual novel mogs 99% of RPGs out of the waterdo you understand just how fucking sad that sounds
>>543772925Honestly I've always hated that there a fucking hundreds of video games that call themselves "role playing games" that have absolutely nothing to do with actual role playing, and is just slapped onto games with shitty "arr pee gee" mechanics and stat autism instead of character building and making decision that actually impact the story. Also whenever I see game that markets itself as role playing game but you play as a predetermined character with a set back story, design, voice acting and personality that you can't customize I get autistically angry.
>>543772925>CRPG players are very heterogenous on this.Not really. Build autism isn't the norm. Munchkin's have always been derided. Even in something like Pathfinder build autism should be a vector for you to build your story, ie a lawful paladin makes a lawful kingdom in Kingmaker.To that end, behead all dipfags.
>>543770507night elf women deserve a better ip
>>543773165I understand how made up it sounds, and is.
>>543772925RPGs are one of the oldest genres, what are you talking about. That's why there are so many varieties.And yes, combat good, visual novels bad.
>>543773241It's a problem for sure. Videogames really are new on the cultural landscape, I mean they basically didn't exist as a medium when I was a baby. Sure they lean on certain older traditions like board games and all the other mediums that it pulls in (art, animation, music, writing, ...) but it's essentially an entire artistic form that's "suddenly", in the scope of civilization, manifested and is still figuring itself out.Then there are all kinds of driving forces at play. The obvious ones like people collectively and organically coining parlance, "Skyrim-like", metroidvania, etc but also things like someone with a Diablo-like wanting to have as many SEO tags as possible tacking on "RPG"Some of that will wash out naturally over time, like people finding the term 'RPG' to be functionally useless for defining anything.
>>543773241>Also whenever I see game that markets itself as role playing game but you play as a predetermined character with a set back story, design, voice acting and personality that you can't customize I get autistically angry.How do you feel about Planetscape Torment? What about Disco?
>like people finding the term 'RPG' to be functionally useless for defining anything.This is the type of faggot to argue CoD is an RPG.
>>543773351The IP of Warcraft isn't the problem. Its just that Blizzard are stupid greedy cunts that ruin everything good they touch.A Warcraft CRPG would be so fucking cool, but it'll never happen.
>>543774094>I mean they basically didn't exist as a medium when I was a babywhat is unc yappin about. bros a hundred?
I made a throwing axe skald and its cool
There should have been a great Star Trek RPG by now
>>543774532I tried to do the same thing while doing the Azata Path and having my Skald throw axes while riding on top of Aivu but I don't remember it doing very well. I probably just didn't have a very good build.It was cool, though. A dragon riding axe throwing Viking fairy dude leading a crusade against demons is pretty funny.
>>543774627There's a star trek CRPGMMO
>>543774878That painted an awesome picture in my mind. I'm only level 8 so far so it might fall off. Unsure what my mythic path will be, thinking demon but Azata might be more suitable for a skald.
>>543774379>a hundred>he didn't play NumberMan on the original machine
>Stop peeking, elantach!
>>543741004I believe so. IIRC they still attempt to dodge the area burst, and your PER reduces this dodge chance.
>>543776048out of character. you know she'd call you a monkey
Why is the RT ship so run down? How does discipline even break down to the degree where kids are basically living in industrial junkyards.
>>543776247Discipline has nothing with people living in slums in the guts of your ship
>>543753070Just install a mod to manage buffs in WoTR you whiny bitch.
>>543753070>Enduring spell >24/24 buffMan that was easy
>>543753070You don't need to pre-buff much on Core and lower.>>543777189>unironically taking Enduring Smellslmao
>>543777279>I have X problem>This solves X problem>I don't want to do thatVery woman of you, anon
>>543776247In the grim, dark universe of 40k, no one knows what sanitation is
These Kibellah nerfs are baffling. Why would you punish the player with very deep penalties for using the character's main skill? It doesn't make sense
>>543776247When you realize the Imperium aesthetic is just modern India trying to larp at being European, it begins to make sense,
>>543777753Eh, by the time you get Kibellah to jump on shit it will be dead already. This is not going to fix anything.
>>543777753>deep penalties>get a dozen free attacks>strength does nothing for bladedancers>perception doesn't matter that much>dodge is easy to get to over 100%it's barely a nerf at all but most fans don't seem to understand how the stats even work
>>543777753>You're not playing the game correctly >:(
>>543777890Using it early to mid game just makes it a death sentence because you won't have 100% dodge until later
>>543750564Wish they had never connected Genestealers to Nids.
>>543778087you mean the most overpowered ability in the game might come with downsides? that you might have to rub a few neurons together to plan when to activate it? learn to balance risk and reward to save a losing battle or save it for the end as a coup de grace? you mean you actually have to play the game now?if that's too much you can just lower the difficulty btw
>>543778218>you mean the most overpowered ability in the game might come with downsides?it's not overpowered anymore tho. all downsides now. classic slav balance.
>>543758965Why the shears? Why anything? This is so ugly
A psyker bladedancer merc is better tham kibella could ever be
>>543777753>Kibellah nerfskek, my pyro Heinrix clears encounters on his own
Shitters on youtube, steam and reddit unironically bitching about nerfs to BD don't even knnow how the game works.The stat debuff barely reduces damage, bladedancer scales of AGI not STR, you don't build STR on BD. It's only a survivability nerf, BD can still slaughter most things. Before it was a damage beast that was also a dodge tank, now it's just a glass canon for early-mid game. Late game you don't even feel the nerf. And the funniest part is, everything else is now more OP. The origins and new talents and items make everyone stronger. Yrliet and Ulfar who were mid now have some very strong weapons and armor options.Overall the patch didn't balance the game and made it harder it made it EASIER ffs.People were hyping up 1.5 for being the patch that will make the game challenging, but it did the opposite.The game will remain trivial until they cap the damn stat boosting abilities and scaling.
>>543768757there's that tweet from a black American developer talking about the difficulty of making a black women attractive because HR always turns them into ugly granny's. Then later he walked it back and deleted the tweet because he hurt some devs feelings
>>543778279>it's not overpowered anymore tho. all downsides now. classic slav balance.you get a dozen free attacks, bursting down an entire horde or one strong enemy in a free action. the downsides area minimal to nonexistent the further you get into the game.
>>543778484>pyro Heinrixnot canon
>>543778613>because HR always turns them into ugly granny'sbut why I know some people make uggo characters on purpose, but I an't understand why
>>543778613They're right though
>>543778682You have to kill a dozen people to get a dozen free attacks
>>543778682>bursting down an entire horde or one strong enemy in a free action.doesn't happen anymore tho. "oh you liked doing this thing? too bad :^)" classic slavs.
>>543778783yes, and? your damage is not nerfed so it's super easy>>543778794another shitter who doesn't know how to play the game
>>543778279>all downsides now.Yeah, being able to still mow down the whole opposing party in one go is all downsides. Now there's actually a mild risk. The one guy left after the slaughter might target her with an attack
>>543778556Threadly reminder that jewtube, leddit and steam are populated by unironic retards and that you should not fraternize with them lest you catch an extra chromosome from them
>>543778852>another shitter who doesn't know how to play the gameI beat it yesterday but kibbles (and marz since I respec'd him to BD/Ex) became totally worthless after the patch dropped.PS wtf is the import flag for?
>>543779017of course you beat it, because it was impossible to lose when you can beat every battle and boss on turn 1 if they don't have an immortality mechanic. thank god they nerfed some of that bullshit, hope there's more heavy nerfs coming.
>>543778556The funny thing is they slightly nerfed Kibbels (an early game only nerf mind you) because BD was too OP, but they made Argenta more busted than she was on release because of priest origin rework and extra talents.
Does 1.5 add content or is it just patches?
>game was broken beyond belief to the point you could alphastrike entire encounters, often with just 1-2 characters, on turn 1 before enemies could even do anything>people are upset about nerfs
>>543778761Relatability.
>>543779190just nerfs and astartes/aeldari equipment. they added a few power armors too but also nerfed the available ones.
>Alpha strike is an actual us navy military termWait these people know what they're doing
>>543779161>another shitter who doesn't know how to play the game>of course you beat it, because it was impossible to losemake up your mind bro
>>543779216the worst part is that it's an ego thing for shitters, they think they're brilliant for copying and overpowered build from youtube and "beating" the game. now that they actually have to play it they cry because their fragile mind can't handle the thought of lowering the difficulty to get their previous power fantasy back. >>543779468>copy a build from youtube>click the right buttons to kill everything on turn 1>never learn to play the game, how to create a build or what stats actually doyes, you don't know how to play the game.
>>543779604>>copy a build from youtubewrong on the first count. I still don't understand why everyone shits on warrior.
W*rr*or
>>543766219>which might lead to them adding a Sslyth companion in Dark Heresy.I think you are too optimistic. The commissar got a portrait too, both are just noticeable characters for the start of act 3.
>>543779763>you copy builds from youtube >:(>no>then you're not building correctly >:(((again make up your mind bro
Since the subject keeps coming up, I have decided to create a tier list ranking which CRPG has the best romance options. Naturally this is based purely on my own opinion, which therefore makes this list completely and objectively correct, that would only be disputed by the most churlish and brain damaged of individuals.
>>543766219Weird for a snake to have 5 fingers. I'd expect it to have 3
I didn't copy any build I just played on launch and had 5 officers with auto initiative pass turns to argenta which broke the game
>>543779918pst belongs in top tier>bratty jailbait scottish tiefling>succubuscome on now, you don't need anything more
>>543779918>cyberpunk and cisquisition in passablelol>ME1 in dismallmao eventhe rest is okay
>>543779918I suppose miranda does have a fat ass
>>543779918Aeriefag have sex
>>543780080>Grace fights the hardest and lasts the longest out of all your companions>Morte plays dead so hard transcendent one believes it
>>543779190They did add talents, items reworked origins and added some reactivity to Lex content, some npc portraits and familiar appearance change based on alignment. But if by content you mean adding new quests/locations no.
>>543779918>kotor 2>romanceskill yourself
>>543779918filling tali's mask with so much cum she has to breath using an emergency induction port
was the psyker breastplate/psy stacking removed or nerfed?
>>543779918Did you just skip all the non-romance dialogue and cheat your way to the ending
>>543780631but Visas is one of the best romances in vidya?
>>543780631shit taste
>>543780080Fall-From-Grace is not really a romance, though, it's just a deep connection that you build through discussing philosophy and the nature of existence. Nothing sexual is involved in her NPC interactions at all.
Why doesn't Owlcat just make a dating sim crpg hybrid? Where the main part of the game is you romancing one of several potential partners and doing dungeons together on some generic fantasy quest.Mentally ill romance fags would buy it and every DLC they shit out and they would roll around in shekels. Just re-use assets from previous games. Idk if GW would allow such a 40K game, but Pozzo certainly would allow a PF game like that as long as it included faggotry.
>>543780631Based. Dollieshit belongs in the garbage.
>>543781242Because they want to make real games despite what waifutards think
>>543780104Panam is a fun romance, that makes it passable. Inquisition had Cassanra, which was a good romance, so same deal. I do not like either Liara or Ashley, as any right thinking man would, and therefore ME1 deserves its place.
RT: Astra Militarum CommanderCompanions: 5x Soldiers with a variety of lasguns, snipers and autogunsThoughts?
>>543779918I'm struggling to think of which romances in DAO you think are good, because it sure as shit isn't Morrigan or Liliana
why are bg1 and bg2 30aud each in 2025? how can they justify those prices?
>>543781537Its Morrigan because you impregnate her. Morriganfans should know the kid got retconned by VG.
>>543781537Morrigan is (rightly) considered one of the best romances of all time in CRPGs and I thought Leliana was sweet and fun. I cannot fathom disliking either of them (discounting what Leliana in particular turns into in the sequels).
why is Expedition 33 not in OP's list
>>543779918>DAO>FineYeah, whore bard and whore hobo mage make for fine ones.
Unironically expedition 33 gameplay is exactly the same as the shrek GameCube rpg.
>>543782004Source?
>>543781756Because they're both bad and shallow. Liliana is the bog standard demure girl romance and even if we disregard the poor quality of Morrigan's, her motives are bad and she fucks off.Both of them exemplify everything bad about game romances.
>>543758965As a non-white disabled genderfluid asexual person, I feel so represented right now, thank you Obsidian!
>>543782095Considering they were among the first CRPG romances and both are still more satisfying than 90% of what came after, I cannot agree.
>>543781664beamdog has no other income
>>543781939His waifu is zevran
>>543758965What's the problem? Design wise they're distinct which is good.
>>543781869Its not a crpg, even if its well liked.
>>543778556You are 100% correct. It's laughable that this patch was supposed to make the combat more difficult and the game more challenging, thanks to all the new items and rework of the talents, the opposite has been accomplished. It boggles the mind that the Owlcat devs are actually THIS incompetent.
>>543758965We wuz Fuck is this
>>543779918>valerie, octavia and zero content twins are passable
>>543781664On Ebay, I'm seeing $9.99 USD brand new for the entire saga, including all expansions, or as low as $6.50 USD used.You're looking at the enhanced editions, which are more recent releases. You're still getting the two best RPGs of all time (well, Wrath might be unseating them, too early to judge) for less than the price of a new game there, though.
>>543782375Directly comparing something like Jaheira or Viconia's romance (which you or that anon placed on the same tier) just proves how vastly inferior they are. There is zero complexity in Morrigan and Leliana, they are there to be cute girls you fill a meter by giving them gifts or saying shallow "you're cute" and shit to until the meter is full and you have a shitty sex scene and then the romance is over.
>>543782745He only likes Aerie
>>543782745That's not true though if you're in a romance with them it impacts character interactions throughout the game and the epilogue as well. If anything they get more content than just about any other romanceable female in CRPGs.
>Expeditions Rome in the same highest tier as BG2So that's all it takes to bait crpgg
>>543779918>game where neera cuckolds you>finest of waifus
>>543783519Expeditions:Rome has three great romances with three great girls, same as BG2, how does it not deserve its place?
>>543758965Incredibly boring. From the Concord school of character design. There is not a single one that I look at and think based on appearance alone "I'd like to know more about them". Even the robot, I think that's a robot behind the woman on the right, is dull.People will say they should have made the women all sexy and everyone white but I don't really think that's the biggest issue. There's just a lack of imagination in the designs. Like you created the most generic sci-fi setting imaginable visually, then fed it through a filter based on preoccupations with specific representations, and this is what you get.
>>543783739Considering any content from the "Enhanced" version to actually be applicable to BG2 is laughable at best.
>>543783809"romance" is just a generous term for what amounts to maybe one flirty line with cowtits cleo before you bang her off screen but keep doing whatever you're doing, you got a ton of (you)s already
Expeditions Rome deserves a high place just because of how much I like Deianeira's voice.
>>543758965Even the Veilguard character cast looked better and more interesting than this.
>>543782058I can’t find it but it’s pissing me off. I know I played a Shrek game with turn based combat as a kid. I think my gangstalkers removed any documentation of its existence to test my reactions.
>>543779918This list is so fucked.>Cyberpunk 2077 had dogshit barebones romances, with only one (1) romance option per sexual orientation>Fallout 4's companions are generally mid tier as fuck, but Curie was a top tier waifu so it deserves a higher tier from her alone (she's best enjoyed if you mod the game to let you romance her as a customizable robot instead of having to make her into a disgusting synth, though)>Divinity 2 OS deserves the lowest spot for not making a female lizard companion>Bastilla from KOTOR was great, why the fuck is that so low?>Jade Empire companions are unbelievably forgettable>Witcher 3 that highDogshit list, all in all.
>>543783972I honestly forgot Neera was a thing because I completely adjusted my route through Beregost to not run into her encounter where a mage instantly stuns you.
>>543783978You have multiple interactions with Cleo leading up to the finale in her chapter and you have to play your cards right the entire time to get her to visit your villa afterwards, which she does in a nice nod to the actual historical event where she wrapped herself up in a carpet to go see Julius. It's just as if not more involved than most of the romances in CRPGs, which are generally pretty sparse to begin with content wise.
We should make a poll, each IP gets 3 votes, then we simply break it down into tiers, simple
>>543784315>Bastila from KOTOR was great>Jade Empires companions are forgettableShit taste and non functional cerebral cortex confirmed, opinion summarily discarded.
>>543784498I already gave you multiple (you)s my man you don't have to keep trying for more>a nice nod to historyjust what I want in my romance, that's the stuff that really gets the heart beating
I never beat BG1 somehow and I got to like the end of it evenI should actually go through it all the way sometime
>>543784680If you do not appreciate Roman history you should not be playing Expeditions: Rome to begin with, you filthy plebian.
>>543784315>Cyberpunk 2077 had dogshit barebones romances>He doesn't mod his PanamGothing out Panam with milky skin, a bobcut and freckles only provides a little bit of dissonance while salvaging what is otherwise a disgusting mutt-haired character with a nice ass.
I wanna smooch her.
>>543784664>he didn't enjoy teasing the shit out of Bastilla while leading her down to the Dark SideYour boos being nothing, faggot. The only memorable character from Jade Empire was the racist British guy with the blunderbuss that you get into an insult fight with. Everything else about that game was boring as shit.
>>543784890>Gothing out Panam with milky skin, a bobcut and freckles
>>543784936It's bizarre to me that anyone actually liked Bastila let alone thinks of her as a decent romance.
>>543784890is this shit taste hour or something
I don't remember anything about most romances in crap G's
>>543783739>Let's add a new love interest in our enhanced edition!>Creates NeeraHow am I not supposed to think it's a developer fetish?
>>543783739Does anyone know what happens when you break up with her? Somebody said it's hilarious but never elaborated
>>543785308It's incredible to me that Beamdog added in a grand total of zero new fun and cool characters in their additions to the game, to the point where most people recommend you simply mod them out entirely. What an utter failure.
Expansion for Black Geyser is out.I will finally take the plunge.
Give me your best whitepills for Dark Heresy. 1.5 complete failiure to balance is blackpilling me.
damn man I remember being a teenager and playing my rented copy of dragon age origins. good times. miss those days bros.
>>543785728Hot Tau romance companionEntire act dedicated to SquatsActual augmenticsYou can join a genestealer cultFree corpsestarch with every preorder
>>543785728they want to make it shorter compared too RT and WotR
>>543785728I actually get the impression that Owlcat is growing increasingly incompetent and mediocre and DH may be their worst game yet. The companion cast they've revealed so far certainly doesn't inspire confidence.
>>543785920Did you make Alistair fuck Morrigan against his will while making him marry the queen against his while while making him become king against his will while making him be your mindslave against his will.
>>543786114>Actual augmenticsWe are unironically getting that with DLC 3 for Rogue Trader.
>>543785728they want to make it """""""""""shorter"""""""""" compared too RT and WotR
>>543781481>Inquisition had Cassanra, which was a good romance
>>543758965>everyone shitting on these ugly mysterymeats>owlcat fans are fine with DH companionslol
God I love Eldar
>>543786356Nope, I flirted with Morrigan but she still ran off. As for Alistair I let him do what he wanted. At first I recruited the villain and Alistair ran away pissed off so I savescummed and killed him. I sacrificed myself so Alistair didn’t have to since he was my bro.
>>543786615No we are not? DH cast looks absolute dogshit
>>543786615Each owlcat game had at least one companion with hair below the shoulder, so they get a pass I guess
>>543786517Supposedly. Considering how cut and butchered Lex Imperialis ended up being I wouldn't count you chickens before they hatch.
>>543786615Looks awful
>>543785728they removed heroic actsthey have limb damage system and new armor system so maybe they are gearig it towards slower combat that isn't 1 round rape everythinginvestigations seemto be tied to the main gameplay and not a self contained gay minigame
>>543786767>cut and butchered?
>>543785728it's over bro. it's been a downward slope since their first game and DH is only looking worse.
>>543786562Yes, she was. The only people would claim otherwise are those who never actually played Inquisition (understandable and respectable).
>>543786615They look fine. Waifufags are just mad there are no hot girls on cover. Catachan, Eldar and Kroot are coolOgryn may be a bit goofy, but I like Ogryns idk debents on the personMedicae looks meh they should have given her some augmentations she looks out of place
Official release date for DH alpha is December 16th.In other words, the general will become unusable till the new year at least
I used mods to make Yrliet a psyker. Its possibly canon.
>>543785728>1.5 complete failiure to balance is blackpilling me.what happened? obviously the game is not fully balanced yet but it's better
>>543786615Which fans are these, exactly? Everyone here said they look dull or outright terrible, outside of MAYBE the Kroot, and the biggest threads on the Steam forums are the ones complaining about how shit the initial cast looks. Are these "Owlcat fans" in the room with us right now?
>>543786927Cassandra not only has one of the worst cases of "let me tell you about my former lover while we bang" she also leaves you if you make her Divine and is annoying besides. Honestly her changes between DA2 and DAI are some of the worst parts of that transition.
>>543786615>make waifuniggers seethe with this one simple trickBased owlcrap. Companions looks fine
>>543787054Where did you learn this?>>543787097Just Mild nerfs to BD and removal of Exe ult, but reworked origins, talents and new items make everyone even more OP than before
>>543787097They nerfed executioner and blade dancer, he's probably mad about that
>>543786876Did you maybe not notice it's not the 15 hours promised, and also not notice that they clearly had an entire upgrade system for the pets that is still vestigially there, and yet totally cut and gone from actual implementation? Lex is 100% rushed out the door unfinished garbage, which doesn't bode well for the future DLCs, as usual Owlcat probably overscoped what they're capable of while working on multiple projects and are failing to meet deadlines and putting out half finished trash as a result. You think they would learn at one point.
>>543787268Owlcat short in their youtube channel
>>543787141>she also leaves you if you make her DivineYou only have yourself to blame for that now, don't you?
>>543786615I am more than fine. I'm glad that it has a female alien romance option where she's actually weird and alien instead of just a fucking knife ear or a blue bitch.The Kroot waifu is the main reason I'm buying the game.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/3710600/view/534364965583194461?l=english
>>543787418Leliana doesn't drop the Warden. Cassandra sucks.
>>543786615AAA NO WAIFUS IM GOING INSANE!!
>>543786615DH cover cast looks far better than RT cover cast
>>543787451I'm glad they're catering to freaks like you and the game will flop
>>543787315It was close12 hours for me, so no, I did not think that counted as being butchered and rushed or whatever. I do not keep a timer for exact minutes for these things ,I just play.It was just a bit worse than Void Shadows overall, but Thassera was fun and voidsip raid is oen of the best missions.
>>543787097Are you fucking retarded? The game is not BETTER, it's WORSE than ever. The patch had the exact opposite effect they claimed it was going to have, everything is not harder, it's fucking easier since the nerfs are completely mitigated and in fact overridden entirely by all the origin reworks plus the new gear which has the end result of the game actually being easier than ever. Argenta is now back to being able to one shot every single boss in the game with her bursts, for example, Yrliet now has OP as fuck gear and so does Ulfar, I mean what the FUCK were they thinking with this shit? Owlcat is terminally retarded is the only conclusion I can come to, how you are so incompetent that the patch meant to make the game harder and more challenging actually decreases the difficulty is beyond me, but somehow they managed it.
nigger!
>>543787550lolno. people were hyped as fuck for the SoB, psyker, and eldar. unfortunately the game didn't deliver on their hype but it was still there. there's no hype for DH.>hurr da alpha innt out yetthe shilling was already daily before the alpha even dropped for RT.
>>543779996All the better to zerk off Human cock with.>>543787550Dark Heresy not having a Space Marine already makes it infinitely superior to Rogue Trader's cast. The fact that 3 out of 5 of the companions show already are xenos or abhumans is so fucking based.
Literally nobody gives a fuck about kroot
>>543787141It's a satisfying romance with a good conclusion. The fact that Cassandra values her duty over her personal attachments is something you should understand and know if you actually paid attention to her character throughout the game so the Divine thing is not an issue, if you don't want her doing that don't make her the Divine, it's your choice after all. Also there is no difference between DA2 and DA3 Cassandra aside from her character model changing.
No waifu on the cover, Owlcat hates STRAIGHT MEN!
All I know is that my 3 favorite characters from RT were not on the cover, so I am not in a rush to assume things
>>543787878Wrong, I care so much I'm dropping hundreds just to get her statue. Feels good to have disposable income I can waste on bird lady statues.
>>543787550Completely false, people were very excited for many of the RT casts initial reveals, nobody cares about any of the DH companions except a few people liking the Kroot.
>>543787315Lex was alright. Thassera and ship boarding were pretty fun. Space Idris Elba is a total dullard and the new class a total whatever, though.
>>543787921>t. never read the comics or watched the ovaCassandra a shit. They explicitly went out of their way to make romances for women and gays in DAI and it shows even in the straight male ones.
>>543788014>chadqal Same, I think the fags just have nothing to complain about
>>543788060>but what about me!Nobody gives a fuck about the kroot
>>543787776SoB and Space Yiff are boring as hell token 40k inclusions. Ogryn is inherently better than Marine, Kroot is better than female marineCorsair>RangerCatachad>twink psykerNavigator over Black girl is the only advantage RT has
That's it?!Fuck I'm disappointed. I hoped they were gonna reveal some details about gameplay and companions
>>543788060post it here when you get it (in 5 years.) I want to laugh at you again.
>>543788365Cassia statues were delivered on time.So unless covid+war breaks out again, it will be fine
>>543788098>Never read the comics or watched the OVAYes, I never engage in tertiary material that doesn't actually matter in the games I play. And I may thank God for it. It's baffling that people like you exist, but then again I suppose garbage like the AtLA comics and Warcraft books exist for a reason.
>>543788294Argenta got hype because everyone was expecting romance but yes, I didn't include Ulfar because the Space Wolves were seen as a boring choice even back during the hype train. Nobody (read: N O B O D Y) gives one iota of a shit about DH's companions.
>>543788326https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/drhxkfhd/celebrate-warhammer-day-2025-with-new-action-figures-statues-video-game-reveals-and-promotions-and-more/>Warhammer Day is rapidly approaching with in-store festivities galore on Saturday 25th October, but we’re not the only ones getting into the celebratory spirit. Loads of our Officially Licensed friends making video games, action figures, and all sorts of gifts are joining us for the party, and they’ve locked in with new reveals and offers all across the weekend.
>>543786615everyone shat on these except 40sloppers or owlkek fanboys
>>543788060How would you diagnose your mental illness?
>>543788561So "everyone" but the main audience for the game?Fucking stupid delusional faggot.
>>543788607Bird flu?
>>543788531Clearly you are wrong
>>543788531I care about Larry. We also still know nothing about any of them
>>543788060>No longer get high quality cloth maps in collectors boxes>No longer get pewter figurines of fantasy and scifi characters or space ships>Instead get colorful funko-pop tier toys of unpopular charactersAt least its something but I'm not paying extra for a kroot toy thats too big to even use in the tabletop game.
>>543788510A good amount of the Warcraft books are good and canon too fwiw. You already proved your pleb status by defending Cassandra tho so I'm not sure what the point of your post here was.
>>543788672There are millions of crpg fans who did not like previous owlcat games and do not like 40k that could buy this , if only they had a Sister Repentia on the cover
>>543788810>Warcraft books are goodlollmaoThanks for the chuckle, mate.
Anons went im going to COOM 10/10 OWLCAT just from this. Argenta looks pretty ugly here and Cassia is the least in focus.
>>543788717nah>>543788725They're not interesting at a glance.>Ogryn could be fun but is just a based retard>rambo is gay>medicae is laughable>they already fucked up eldar once>krootwowie
>>543789006>rambo is gay?
>>543788672>people who will buy anything with a 40turd sticker>people who are tribalistic about owlcatpeople who just play crpgs are neither
>>543789006I am going to wait to learn their characters first. Why are you faggots so shallow!? I thought Jimmy was eh on appearance but I ended up liking him a lot.
>>543788531The Space Wolves are the coolest chapter of Space Marines, though.
>>543788927Have you ever read any? Are you even capable of reading?
>>543789172...Well ,at least they are better than any charter with Iron or Fist in the name
>>543789172Rare Ulfar art
>>543786615Russia is next to Asia but Owlcat is obsessed with niggers instead.
>>543789172Wouldn't go that far but I don't hate them like a lot of 40kfags seem to.>>543789149Jimmy and Ulfar are the only ones in RT's key art that don't disappoint, and Ulfar as we're seeing is debatable. It's not shallow to notice a pattern in their work and the key art companions they chose are awful.
>>543789093I see his point, the Catachan looks way too prim and proper for an actual Catachan, he's not rugged or fucked up at all, almost looks like a damn male model rather than a grizzled veteran of brutal campaigns as an IG.
>>543789172wait thats not him. do all space wolves look the same
>>543789172RT made me hate them. I thought they were just marines but decorationg with pelts and shit because their homeworld is like that.Turns out they do full cosplay pretend events of Earth fantasy viking culture.
>>543788531If Argenta was romanceable RT would still be touted as the best CRPG in ages
>>543789538Hes definitely a romance option, they don't want him too ugly
>>543789172SAAAR
>>543789743It would have helped to be sure.
>>543786615>noooo, not the classic 40k characters in my 40k gameYou want xeno waifu instead or what?
>>543739052I came here looking for a thread on it because I started playing it and the walking speed ruins my immersion so I'm looking for a way to reduce the walking speed on a toggle so I can walk the streets in peace and look at the pretty likes while I do my fetch quests or whatever
Can you guys list your dream 40k team then?Is it just 10 waifus
>>543789748why was this not a concern for the medic?
we're at an interesting point of history where we'll see directly how much waifufags contribute to the success of a game by comparing RT and DH
>>543730159Aren't you just immune to everything and auto 20 by the end of the game?
>>543789191Obviously I am too Alpha to read books, only weak men waste time on such trivial pursuits. >>543789149Bro you are already coping, the fact the current characters are not exciting or cool looking is a fact, yeah maybe the writing will salvage them but that doesn't change the fact that as the initial face of the game they are a downgrade from RTs cast.
>>543789934why indeed. give it a moments thought.
>>543789538why would he be dirty when he isn't in the jungle?
>>543789930a rogue trader's retinue, but an actual rogue trainer's retinue and not owlcat's dogmatic humans and two elves
>>543789934Because Owlcat hates you, they personally told me>>543790113>tate
>>543790195>tateI thought it was funny so I let it slide. piss off with your virtue signaling.
>>543789748Why? Why not make him grim, tough, and scarred the way he is supposed to be, even if he is a romance option? Obviously they didn't have this concern when designing the medic, who is also clearly going to be a romance option, so your argument just makes the game look worse. >>543789551Yes. They're all implanted with the same genetic material, after all.>>543789663That's every Space Marine chapter though, they all go in hard on whatever culture they're based on and do a bunch of meme stuff related to it, from the White Scars to the Ultramarines, so it's not like that is unique to the Space Wolves.
Please Owlcat post Cassia 2.0 so they stop screaming about the cover
>>543790126It's not just dirt it's his general look and feel, Catachan are supposed to live on one of if not the most fucked up planets in the Imperium, they're all scarred, hardened, and grim looking mother fuckers as a result, and the Catachan we're getting in Dark Heresy looks like some Imperium PR Officer decided to hire a male model to portray one in an advertisement rather than the actual, real deal.
>>543790551they already dideven has the claws
The DH cast looks ok, waifufaggots are just mindshattered
>>543780643hot
The Outer Worlds 2 cast looks ok, waifufaggots are just mindshattered
>>543786615a team to rival outer worlds 2's
>>543790551It's funny you guys keep deflecting with this bullshit when that is not the issue at all, if the Catachan actually looked liked a grim, hardened veteran and killer, plenty of 40K fans would be excited for him, for example. Even the Ogryn and the Eldar just look too clean and generic, there's nothing cool or eye catching about them at all. It's just a failure on the part of whoever designed these characters visuals and you should stop trying to ignore that by saying "but it's just about the waifus!" when that is not the case at all. Every RT cast member looked better than this, waifu or not.
>>543790716Shes too exotic for them
>>543790936Catachan isn't grizzled enough for you? What are you gay? I want to know about Larry and see if Owlcat can write decent non-deldar elves.
>>543789930indrick boreale
>>543791118>and see if Owlcat can write decent non-deldar elves.we already know the answer to that, elantach. it's a resounding no.
>>543791118The Catachan we're getting looks like he's supposed to be on the cover of a womens romance novel, not a war veteran from one of the most dangerous planets in the entire Imperium, is the issue.
>>543791281Tell then use AI slop to mod him ugly once the game comes out. Can you tell me his personality or character arc.
>>543791217Corsairs are easier to write than CW Eldar, at least, maybe Owlcat can manage it after their abysmal failure with Yrliet, since it should be simpler to pull off.
A game with ugly companions is made by ugly people for ugly people, it's as simple as that. Even the Bloodborne and Elden Ring monsters are never that ugly because the game directors advised against putting grotesque designs that exist only to disgust the player.
>>543791469fool me once shame on you. fool me twice...
>>543791469They are better at writings male characters, he will be better than Yrliturd
>>543789538>>543790647Yeah Catchan looks gayhe should look like this instead
>>543791718The guy sperging out about him would like this
Kibbles is kind of shit now bros.
>>543791406Holy fuck would you stop trying to deflect? We are arguing about whether or not the VISUAL APPEAL of the DH cast is acceptable, and CLEARLY, it is not given the tepid or outright negative reaction to it not just here but in general on multiple forums. The fucking biggest threads on the Steam forums are the ones bitching about the companion cast, for example. Whether or not the WRITING will SALVAGE these characters is irrelevant, their LOOK, their VISUAL DESIGN, is a FAILURE and a massive DOWNGRADE from the RT cast that came before it. Either argue THAT point or shut the fuck up, you gibbering retarded cultist.
>>543791976steam forums do nothing but bitch
>>543791718I really should replay LWotC again one of these days, especially since it's basically confirmed that the series will never see the light of day again now.>>543791964No she isn't what the fuck are you talking about? She's still the same high damage menace she always was, just make sure she's not exposed after she shreds everything, which is trivially easy to do.
>>543791976I wrote tell instead of then. Don't buy the game if it makes you so mad.>cultistsays the 40kfag lol!
>>543792078Funny since when the RT cast was revealed everyone on the Steam forums was raving about how cool the characters looked. You disingenuous faggot.
>>543792334proofs?
>>543792334Who gives a shit, steam forums are a cesspool. Go back?
DH mindbroke this guy and the game isn't even out yet! I hope he doesn't try the Alpha.
>>543779918>Bastila atrocious You should be hunted for sport.
>>543791964Just have her artistry jump back to where she came from after you're done attacking
>>543792416You are pathetic. I point out people here are shitting on it. Then it's "well it's not other places just here" and I point out it's also on Steam. Then it's "well Steam is always negative". Then I point out that's yet another bald faced lie, and you deflect YET AGAIN. Maybe, just maybe, it's not the forum that's to blame, but the fact that the DH cast actually does not look good. Nah, couldn't be, must be a vast conspiracy and everyone in some unknown realm only I am aware of really loves it! Delusional retard.
i can't wait for afterlight's furries to join usthen we'll have the trifecta of furshitters, cucks and 40kiddies
>>543792910Afterlight looks repulsive, no thanks
>>543792910should have stuck with pathfinder tbqhf
>>543792761>expecting consistency from a 40cultistthese are the same people who selectively apply how seriously you're supposed to take their dolly board games
>>543790936>and the Eldar just look too clean and generic, there's nothing cool or eye catching about them at all. It's just a failure on the part of whoever designed these characters visuals and you should stop trying to ignore that by saying "but it's just about the waifus!" when that is not the case at all.Larry the Corsair is literally 1:1 version of the Way Seeker from Corsair Kill TeamCorsairs are literally, explicitly not clean and generic. Normal Craftworlders are. Corsairs have much more going on on their armor from more baroque designs to tacticool pouches everywhere. This is to make their armor more reminiscent of Eldar Empire at it's peak, same thing Visarch has going on, because they were clearly designed together
I will be playing the alpha with gay rambo and the big retard
I just figured out that you can use spell scrolls to actually cast the spell by putting it in your quick items.I thought they were just for writing to your spell books.
>>543793469>When you pass off cost-saving measures as lore your costumers gobble up
I think an ogryn companion a good idea. They're popular on tabletop and they're popular in dakrtide. They're a recurring creature in 40k because people like playing big tough guys, and they're also a bit of comic relief. Excellent choice.I think a guardsman is a good choice. There are several popular guard regiments and catachan are one of them. I would have been happy with a tallarn, a vostroyan, a mordian, a chemdog, or a steel legionaire, or several others. Pretty much anything besides cadian or krieger, because those get the spotlight the most already. Excellent choice.I think a corsair is a good choice. They already had craftworld and dark eldar in their previous game, but people love elves, so it was bound to be a corsair or an exodite or a loner of some sort. I'm betting he will be popular with the ladies. Hopefully he's overall more reasonable and likeable than Marz and Yrliet, but he likely will be since corsairs usually are. Excellent choice.I think a kroot is a good choice. There are only so many xenos you can choose from for this since most of the game will take place on an imperial world. So lots of the more exotic xenos are off limits. There's already an eldar, so kroot is the next more common choice. I look forward to her eating stuff and having an evolution skill tree throughout the game for eating certain enemies. I don't particularly want to romance a kroot but I probably will to see what it's like. Excellent choice.I rejuvenant expert is often part of inquisitor's list of contacts since they will often make use of those services, but they're not usually in combat. Something owlcat and fatshark both like to do however is make cosmetics or characters or references to tabletop models, and there actually is a rejuvenant expert model in the Imperial Agents codex, so here we are. Hopefully she's a crazy dr mengel type character. Could be good, depends on writing.Overall I'm happy with the cast, and I'm looking forward to the last few reveal.
>>543793667Didn't ask namefag
>>543793624This isn't at all what's happening. Those aren't copies but those same design cues. Which are explicitly different from other Eldar ranges like Craftworlders and Deldar. This is more work put into, unlike old Corsairs which were just flying Guardians
>>543793667same
>>543793828You were cucked by a bear
Gendarme or kineticist?Im trying to make combat not suck cock
>>543793667We're also getting another (romanceable) sister of battle, a night lord and a good guy space marine
>>543793667based lorefag
>>543793620Yeah. For example, you might find it worth using the cloudkill scroll to wipe out some enemies since 5th level is nearly unobtainable.
40k “novels” AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAmay as well read goosebumps nigga
>>543794461He was not me
>>543794563Pure gendarme has some big dick charges but you don't get your big dick charges until 20
Should I drop wotr for rt now that the update is out? It’s my first wotr playthrough but I am getting a bit bored of it.
>>543794801Lmao you are going to love it when the cavill show comes out, is any good, and these threads are flooded by normies forever and ever
>>543795067Rt update is bad let it bake more owlcat games aren't actually finished until years later. What are you playing in wrath and where are you at
>>543794881And that's why they call it cucked
We WILL get taucow milk in dark heresy
>>543795232I’ve retaken drezen and I am currently in some sci-fi dungeon and it’s kind of tedious. I think I might suck or be underleveled. It’s making me want to drop the game and revisit it in the future.
I hope all the rest of dh companions are either lesbians, male or not romanceable just piss off incels even further
>>543795196It's highly unlikely that show is ever coming out, it's plagued by production issues and will likely never the light of day. Cavill is more or less getting drummed out of the entertainment world at this point.
>>543795232>>543795505I cleared the ivory sanctum right before this dungeon if that explains it better. That was also kind of tedious.
Has anyone played Vagrus: The riven realms?Any impressions?
>>543795616I just hope they can't have sex with female elves
>>543795505I assume that's BlackwaterIt's a backer quest, and generally considered to be giga ass. All the enemies are immortal unless you coup-de-grace them or use electric attacksYou don't need to complete it in this act though iirc if you still want the exp
>>543795626Nah, we should be getting more info about the show on warhammer day this saturday
>>543793016What is a moeblob?
>>543795962Yeah Blackwater. That explains a lot, it’s really fucking miserable. Guess ill just skip it.
>>543795962Soulshear also does the job
Owlcat should make a Robert E. Howard rip off.
>>543795857It's tedious garbage and very, very dull with bad combat and even worse writing. Imagine a game where you constantly do Skyrim radiant quests, but with a survival mode mod installed, and nothing pretty to look at or good music to listen to. That's Vagrus.
I sent all day after work playing a crpg instead of shitposting here. I'm proud of myself.
>>543796138Anime girls with 0 personality and are just there to be cute. So the ideal romance companion
>>543796396I just shitpost while working so it’s out of my system when I am ready to game.
She's not a companion because owlcat companion portraits tend to be zoomed out a bit and feature most of their whole person, while important npc's are often closer up of just their upper body. Hopefully she is recurring questgiver, with a lot of reactivity for SoB origin player characters, and lots of reactivity based on your alignment and how you handle things. I'm just happy there's another sob since I think they're cool. I doubt she's a romance.Hopefully the faction system in DH is more about the variety of types of inquisitors and how they react to your methods of doing things. Puritan vs radical would be a core dichotomy, but there's also three branches of the inquisition, and there's also various inqusitors who were various things in life before they became inquisitors, so there's a lot of design space for characters.And I hope a few inquisition-adjacent factions (such as the ordos militant of the ordo hereticus, or deathwatch representative, or death cult, or assassinorum, etc) show up as well.Game is going to be so good, I can feel it.
>>543796412t. pea brain
>>543795505Blackwater is the worst place in the game that isn't nenio funhouse feel free to skip both
>>543796367Ouch
>>543796507Well, it certainly looks like their best game so far, but i'll reserve judgement till it actually releases
>>543796829>Well, it certainly looks like their best game so far
Kinda curious about trying an Arc Rifle Executioner build with the RT update. Anyone know if the arc works on applying burn stacks with Merciless Verdict?
Thanks guys. I’ll either stick with wotr or go play old crpgs. I’ll continue to wait in RT
>>543796507Still going
>cult classicCope term that really means "7/10 game that only like 50 autist play because it appeals to their specific brand of autism" i think the og fallouts are a good example of this. People rant about how much of a cult classic they are and when it gets a high quality total conversation mods tens of people play it.
yeah that’s what cult classic means u fucking midwit
Bloodlines will always be better than this shitty sequel
>>543797381You missed the point of my post. None of these cult classic games are actually good despite how much people talk about them, a good example of this is how the og fallout are ass but all online discussion makes them sound like the best games ever.
>>543796915Cry more, incel virgin
Good is subjective. A cult classic is only going to be “good” to those it appeals to. The entire point of calling something a cult classic means it has strong appeal to a small group of autists and minimal mass appeal. You are stupid. Don’t blogpost ever again.
>>543797542>og fallout are assterrible opinion
>>543796507>>543793667based enjoyer of things
Also people keep saying that Larry will be a bro and Corsairs are chill... but they really aren't. Actually they are cunts. They believe galaxy is theirs to do with it as they see fit. It's their birthright and lesser species should know their fucking place. I don't know what would be best comparison in crpgs even. Maybe in other games, they are more like Thalmor from Todd's magnum opus maybe? Except they don't even bother with formalities like bananas do while shitposting at humans, Anhrathe just do whatever the fuck they want.Larry more likely will be a Chud. I'd sooner expect him to drop more M-words than Yrliet at you.
>>543798050If something only appeals to like 50 super autist then its a shitty game. A good example of this is underrail, its pretty much a glorified shitty blobber dungeon crawler but if you point this out there autistic fans will go ape shit and its the same with other shitty games that have cult followings case and point >>543798052
>>543798326He has to be properly sanctioned. The DH protag doesn't have the warrant to protect them and are part of the actual glownigger structure. I'm more curious where his brand is than anything else.
>>543798326>They believe galaxy is theirs to do with it as they see fit. It's their birthright and lesser species should know their fucking place.This is what 99% of human characters believe too
>JKK is the only viable faction to join on an underrail dominating playthroughThe warehouse defence mission is so hilariously difficult that I have to wait multiple levels to do it, something you don't have to do as jkk cause it gives you a stealth mission instead. Is there no way to bypass it?
Save it for your suicide note. You’re stupid and not worth anyone’s time.
blaster psyker chads... the eyes of joyeuse is an act 4 item now
>>543798326All elves will be racist and haughty, but corsairs have the reputation of being easier to get along with because they spend their lives exploring space and interacting with humans and even working as mercenaries sometimes. With craftworld you can easily be the first monkey they've ever spoken to so all interactions are laborious, and with eldar they just want to murderrape you. Meanwhile corsairs are used to how monkeys talk and act and you can skip a lot of the basic bullshit since they're used to you. But yes they are still eldar and will carry the same racism that all eldar have (with some exceptions).
>>543798604he's been helping out a radical, he's not gonna be sanctionedthe reason we won't face trouble is that we're going to be stuck in one system while everything is falling apart around us
>>543798664But if you’re playing on dominating the challenge of overcoming the difficulty of the warehouse level should be appealing. There’s no point in playing on dominating if you don’t enjoy a retard struggle, no?
>>543798391Bloodlines and Fallout don't appeal to "50 people", you disingenuous cretin. What are you even doing in the Owlcat general with your "normie games only" delusion?
>>543798326He doesn't have to be a bro, I just want him better than the mess that is Yrliet. Marz is good for a deldar also.
>>543798852That's weak writing though. Multiple times Heinrix and other inquisitors mention it's only the warrant keeping us safe. Just handwaving it when we're an actual grunt spook is retarded.
>>543798904Yeah sure but locking main quest progression until you can do it is pretty fucking rough. I can just stealth my way through jkk at lvl 9, I'd have to wait until at least 16 as any of the others unless there's some skip I'm unaware of
>>543798987we're going to be an inquisitor before the halfway point of the game and carry the same level of power
>>543798943Like I said everytime the og fallout games get high quality total conversion mods tens of people play it
>>543798664Just go to phreak? You can skip all 3 of the main factions but the downside is you can't get a house and you have to deal with the electro spiders which are cancer.
>>543799065Yeah the power to sanction them, not forgo it entirely. That's stupid.
Would a non-retarded fuckable Yrliet have been more popular than a fuckable Argenta who had mid-game content?
>>543799143The fuck mod are you talking about I tried playing 2 and found it very rough and while I do recognize games with similar systems that borrow from it like the stuff from spiderweb soft games and underrail I still couldn't play past the first city cauae the game felt so shit
>>543799048Yeah fair enough. I didn’t think of the impact it has on progression.
>>543799247They would have fought for the top slot. I want to say these threads would be bloodbaths but honestly they might have ended up better since half the people here would be less mad.
>>543799247No. Argenta is still prettier
I see that baittroon is trying a new tactic
>>543799338Why are you arguing with a guy who needed to blog posted his “epiphany” and just explained what cult classic has always meant?
>>543799338sonara,nevada,olympus ect.
>>543799229there are no real laws at the upper levels of power, especially for the enforcers of those lawsinquisitor rostov runs around with a chikanti who shit talks space marines in their face and is fine
>>543798391>autist with the very autistic trait of being unable to cope with people enjoying things he doesn’t calls other people autistic
>>543799338> I tried playing 2Huge fallout fan that says falloit is a great game excited to play fallout for the first time
I caused this by calling Bloodlines a cult classic yesterday
>>543799584>Avenging SonThis is the equivalent of saying 5e is worth considering. Do you really want to trod that path?
>>543799905>5e is not worth considering>Try playing irl>They're playing 5e>The 2024 kind which is even worseI need a new system this is ass
>Many Ordo Xenos Inquisitors are quite open in their dealings with some alien races. Only the most Puritan Alien Hunter would consider it a great sin to make common cause with such species as the Eldar for example, and the annals of the Imperium contain many records of Human and Eldar forces fighting together against such foes as the Orks or Tyranids.>More divisive however is the use of alien mercenaries, such as the barbaric and flesh-devouring Kroot. Many Imperial Governors, faced with an immediate emergency, have turned to alien mercenaries for aid, knowing that a response from the Imperium might arrive too late. In such instances, it is not uncommon for an Inquisitor of the Ordo Malleus to instigate hearings and trials, and to test soldiers exposed to the aliens for signs of corruption. In most instances, the matter may pass with relatively few consequences, but should the Inquisitor in question be of a particularly Puritan mindset, entire regiments might be purged and the planetary government deposed as punishment.>Taking matters still further, there are the Radical members of the Ordo Xenos. These might openly associate with all manner of aliens, some even going so far as to include them amongst their cadres. Depending on the nature of the alien in question, the response of fellow Inquisitors might be severe indeed.
>>543800061>Ordo Xenostry again
>>543799905anon, all these games are based on post-great rift scenarios. 2002 warhammer is not coming back. i'm sorry to say this but 3rd edition ended 20 years ago.
>ordos xenosWE are all playing the demon hunter faction on release.
>>543800043just grab a wheelchair bro :)>>543800270that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the pussification of it.
>In the broadest of terms, no human may interact with a xenos creature in any way except violently—such creatures are inherently blasphemous against the God-Emperor and must be eliminated on sight without exception. From a young age, citizens of the Imperium are taught to fear and hate the xenos, and innumerable legions of Imperial Guardsmen are taught of the superiority of Man over all inhuman things as they are drilled in the use of lasgun and bayonet. The number of xenos who have set foot upon human worlds peacefully and survived is small indeed. >But this is not always the case. Though the Imperium was founded upon a creed of intolerance towards non-humans, peaceful contact with a variety of xenos species actually happens frequently. In most instances, these are short-term alliances or matters of temporary mutual convenience. Just as frequently, illegal contact with xenos cultures is sufficiently commonplace that the Inquisition and the Adeptus Arbites keep a constant watch for potential contamination through contact with xenos; in spite of such vigilance, the “Cold Trade” of xenos goods on the black market still exists. A number of xenos species hire themselves out as mercenaries to a number of other species, for reasons all their own, and there are more than a few unscrupulous Imperial Commanders willing to hire such creatures to bolster their forces, seeing them as the ultimate expendable mercenaries and caring little for their fate. >In some cases, an allied xenos may almost become a trusted companion, highly valued for its skills. Individuals with trusted xenos allies may fifind that the normal laws and doctrines against consorting with xenos hamper their operations, and in regions on the fringes of the Imperium, like the Calixis Sector, a method of sanctioning xenos allies has come about to ease these diffificulties.
>game is 30 years old with dedicated fans to this day>not a cult classicthis guy must be the critical role fan
>>543800456>like the Calixis Sector, a method of sanctioning xenos allies has come about to ease these diffificulties.Yeah so where's Larry's brand is what I want to know.
>>543800568it's a psychic illusion :^)
i can't be a vampire if you've seen me in the sun.i can be a ghoul if you haven't seen me eat food. unless i just puke back up an hour later.
Larry's stealing all the human women, somebody has to stop him
>These Sanctioned Xenos are still regarded with caution and hostility by most, but this is unsurprising. However, so long as they remain in the company of an ally who can vouch for their service (assorted documentation in copious amounts is provided for this purpose), and agree to be visibly marked to prove that they are Sanctioned—this mark is typically a brand or tattoo on the face or hands, where it can be clearly seen. The permanence of such a mark is of no concern—without a human employer to vouch for the xenos, the mark is essentially meaningless, and should the xenos cease to serve the Imperium, its life is forfeit anyway, and the creature is slain as soon as possible.>Within the Calixis Sector, obtaining such Sanctioning is an expensive and challenging matter; there are few who will even concede that such a practice exists, let alone perform it. A handful of Administratum Ordinates in Port Wander provide the service, having been recruited for such a purpose by interested Inquisitors, whose purity is tested on a regular basis to monitor potential contamination. Their identities are not widely known, and the service itself must be specifically requested, as they will not offer it otherwise.>As rare as Sanctioning is, it is recognised in many of the more well-travelled parts of the Calixis Sector and the settled worlds of the Expanse. As the required mark is very similar to that which identifies Sanctioned Psykers, it quickly becomes apparent what the mark means to those with any knowledge of the structure of the Imperium. It is still wise to be cautious in bringing even a Sanctioned xenos to a human world; those who will understand the nature of the mark and the notion of Sanctioning are still a minority, and a xenos creature will spread only fear and anger by its presence amongst the common masses of mankind.Rogue Trader - Into the Storm
>40k loreAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>543800538No im saying that almost none of these cult classics are actually good.
>>543800905You skipped the important part.>However, so long as they remain in the company of a Human ally who can vouch for their service (assorted documentation in copious amounts is provided for this purpose), and agree to be visibly marked to prove that they are Sanctioned -- this mark is typically a brand or tattoo on the face or hands, where it can be clearly seen -- they may continue existing.
Trench warfare is kind of shit bros. The +40% means you only add 2 shots to most lasguns since they only have 4 RoF. Plus rapid fire means that you only double the base RoF.
>>543800293why would I play the least interesting faction? daemons have literally no personality
Ordo Raptio
>>543801035This.
>>543800905>>543801060no I skipped it. that's my b.>>543801135DH is Ordo Malleus
>>543801132Being a demon hunter is cooler than being a xenos fucker or a nerd warp expert.
It's funny when they bring oleg for tax collection the fate between olegs post staying a shitty post, being a huge trade center or becoming a military outpost is at hand
>>543801193why are we rapping
>>543796982Well found a save with unlevelled Heinrix and yeah it works.
Does completing the puzzle at Cassia's station give a permanent psy rating increase now?
>>543801930if you can deal with +30% perils yeah
>>543801865how else are you supposed to deal with xenos and heretics
>>543801963nani
>ministorum priest can just pump willpower now and become a unkillable tank that does a 3000 damage per shotIm legitimately convinced owlcat didn't playtest this "balance" patch at all.
>>543801976https://youtu.be/AZFuvVdIgSw?si=s2MkT6AJ15x7Ls8y
>>543802196balance is a buzzword. it's not possible to have everything be equal when there are different roles to fill. whenever you hear faggot devs talk about "balance" they just mean they're going to flip the meta. pointless and asinine 99% of the time, and this is one.
>>543802196ministorum had to be given something
>>543802441Ministorum was fine before just required some pretty weird choices but you ended up getting like an extra 20 base damage on all your attacks against most enemies.
>>543801963I need to know if that is additive or multiplicatively. Additively would kill it that's too much
>>543802196>per shot>he isnt doing 7000 undodgeable aoe flamer damage
>>543802387Games like grimoire where 2 races are clearly better than the rest are kind of ass
Please keep ministorum as a origin in dark heresy since psyker is going to be a class. I want to be a wizard priest.
>>543802968Never in my life have I chosen a first playthrough race based on stats. Get some dignity, stop scrambling for scraps, and play the game as you please. If that includes crunching every last point you can by going full munchkin? Do it but shut the fuck up about it.
>>543802196Wanna know what's even more retarded? Playtesters literally warned them it was more broken than bladedancer executioner and these stupid fucks still shipped it.
>OWLCAT OWLCAT OWLCAT OWLCATSHUT UP SHUT UP TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE
In non-crpg news, I replayed Battle Chasers Nightwar.I am sad there will be no sequel ever
>>543784926
>>543803579have you tried doing that instead of complaining about people talking about owlcat?
Black geyser is the true bg3.
>>543803752>Battle Chasers NightwarCan you bang the redhead?
why is owlcat obsessed with humiliation?
>>543803862She wants the Garrison dick, but there is not a lot of character talking in the game
>>543803790They sold out when they removed crushmaster
>>543803965If you acquire a humiliation fetish you'll be much more satisfied with life in general
>>543804535it's how slav men have endured most of their history
>>543804207And just like that all my interest is lost. If you like the gameplay I'm pretty sure the LoL Ruined King game was made by the same devs and is the same thing with a coat of paint.
There's a clear jump in power levels going from Kingmaker to Wrath so Owlcat can flex more bombastic setpieces and encounters but Dark Heresy seems like it'll be a step back from Rogue Trader in that regard. I had an Inquisitor in my party in RT, he wasn't that good
>>543804967>he wasn't that goodJimmy is tied for the best unit in the game, just give him power armor plus iron arms and he is unkillable.
>>543804967Hes not a inquisitor
reminder that reddit's favorite romances are wenduag, yrliet and octavia
That reminds me>added in new weapons and armor >still no new power armor
>>543805393they did add a few sets of power armor but they nerfed the existing sets too. because fuck you.
>>543805173Beat by any merc
>reminder that redditstopped reading there
>>543805313>Wendog why>Yrlietthey praise her for being a asexual but I doubt they actually like it>OctaviaKm is too janky for them
>>543805393There are actually 3 new sets of power armour, I think one of them is in act 3. The problem is there is no central loot table that's still updated so we have no clue where to find anything.
>>543805313reddit users are headed for hell
are plasma weapons good now I want to use plasma weapons because they are cool
>>543805313octavia is too kinky for them, reddit probably unironically likes v*lerie
>>543805313I'm not surprised.
Camcam is pretty and nice but I wouldn't fuck her because she would probably be too kinky for me
Daeran and his iconic mobility scooter wolf
>>543805639They were cool even in 1.3. Its just that Pasqal lags behind Jae as a skill monkey.
Owlcat knows thats there is different tiers to power armor in lore right, and its not THAT rare for rich and well connected people? We should be getting low tier power armor after we settle the business with Dargonus and Janus in the beginning of act 2.
I bring pasqal around everywhere regardless of how optimal or suboptimal he is
>>543805173He doesn't need power armour he's a dodge tank
Companions I like = 4chanCompanions you like = reddit
>>543806746I prefer making him a vanguard so he gets a gazillion toughness and strength and one shots everything.
>>543804967>I had an Inquisitor in my party in RT, he wasn't that goodAnyone who says a biomancer isn't very good should stop playing crpgs and stick to match-3
why does valerie tell us we are like her ex?
>>543806916>making him a vanguardbruh
>>543806916yeah im surprised they didn't nerf the biomancer+ vanguard combo. You are legit unkillable and get like 300 strength and toughness and I wasn't even min/maxing you could easily get it way higher.
>>543779918isn't morrigan a hoe?
>>543804967>heinrix>not good>when pyro heinrix solos encounters in 1-2 turns and becomes unkillable>>543805313Yrliet isn't good, but it's at least different which at least sets it apart from every other shitty romance most RPGs have.>>543803752>I am sad there will be no sequel everNarratively, no. But gameplay wise Ruined King is legit good.
>>543806974Because Valerie is far abd away the best girl in Kingmaker so they had to make up something contrived in order to make her appear distasteful to some degree. Her competition are insanely boring and annoying tiefling twins and an emotionally abusive whore
I went Biomancer/Executioner with Jimmy and he deleted everything in one hit.It felt pretty silly.
>>543807640who asked
>>543807569>I wish people would STOP HITTING ON ME for being SO BEAUTIFUL all my life I've been SO BEAUTIFUL nobody takes me seriously for being SO BEAUTIFUL woe is me I'm SO BEAUTIFUL>Waaaaaah I lost my beauty I'm losing my mindValerie fucking sucks
>>543807640As he should
>>543807569Even taking away the retarded ex conversation Valerie swings between lawful boring and incredibly whiny. On top of that she's not even the prettiest girl in your party so her complaining doesn't make sense unless you ignore her portrait
>>543806916I guess it works, but eh. Executioner works better and fits him thematically
>>543807183Dodgy jimmy is better. he gets the same amount of strength and can also just dodge shit that can't be parried
Jimmy is my healsissy
>>543808793Doesn't really matter if you can't dodge when armor gives you such a massive damage reduction you're effectively immortal.
DUDE i played ROGUE TRANNY (baby mode game for mental midgets) and deleted something in one hit in my power fantasy with KEKOLDING
>>543810414Based Kibellah
>>543810414my e-girl death cultist can't possibly be this cute
my power fantasy is having friends to play heckin dnd with. that’s why I watch critical role! don’t fucking say they aren’t cool, I WILL defend them!
wholesome citadel dlc for RT where they throw you a birthday party with your companions getting drunk and cracking jokes
The way the abyss city moves and shifts is so irritating.I like the concept of a changing city but the camera system is ass in WotR and its tedious to traverse the place.
>>543810414I like gambling
>>543811870Yeah, whenever I replay WOTR the dumbass camera in Alushinyrra filters me
>>543811870the flow of walkways is convoluted in alushinyrra
>>543811870Not sure why but it never bothered me that much the bridges are annoying but everything else to me is totally fine
critical roll member reacts to yrliet romance [thumbnail of a face expressing shock and bewilderment]
I'm only watching these fags for the first time because they changed dm and have more players. It's clear some of the older ones don't want to be there but still do because it brings food to the table but some of these new guys might be different
>>543811870It's a cool idea but it's just overdone to annoyance in Alu.
>>543771552Got a present for you. Elves really are the superior eldar.
>>543724019>Thoughtsone of the best games ever, played it like twelve times and have no plans of stopping, great art and gameplay
>>543784315>Bastilla from KOTOR was great, why the fuck is that so low?She barely existed, there were a lot of scenes of her bitching at you, then somehow you have one awkward kiss, then she immediately cheats on you with Malak
Any crpg for this feel?
REAL ELDAR reacts to Yrliet!
>>543813294DH Kroot romance
>>543813491>>543813491>>543813491
>>543813356>I hate when a mon-keigh actress portrays an eldar as just an autistic human and calls it a day>No way I would have missed that shot >Yeah this is pretty accurate, farseers are like that
what if we formed an online trpg group
>>543812785women don't dress like that
>>543785728each Owlcat game has progressively gotten better and their sequels consistently up the quality and the fun of the game Wrath was incredibly fun compared to Kingmaker and each time a new game has come out i've found myself liking the new batch of companions more than the last the games may be unbalanced but its fun
>>543819958>each Owlcat game has progressively gotten better and their sequels consistently up the quality and the fun of the gameliterally the opposite
While you argued about waifus on /crpgg/ I studied and reached grandmastery in the blade...
>>543785728it could be a smaller scope adventure compared to RT and be the kingmaker to RT's wrath. but they'll probably fuck it up and make (you) the ctan shard this time that just gaslighted itself into thinking its a regular human
>>543786114>Free corpsestarch with every preorderAnd they actually send you a tin of beef tallow.
