Wide Brimmed Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2025-update.87198/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>544139008
Paige's hairy logcutter.
if you support mellteam you support racism
>>544210889wait seriously? Did NApros actually stop queueing on NA because of peruvians?
i support mellteam
>pauses
>>544211071yes
>>544211071Yes and streamers. If you remember BSJ he actually moved to Europe for a while because of it
stop killing his family members and let him out
How would you make Holliday sexier without changing her design too much? Tighter pants? Unbuttoned shirt? Middriff?
My take on a hero honesty tier list. It lacks nuance but it's a start
>>544211183>Calico and Yamato in honest
>3.4Mb updatewhat was it
>>544211183Wow dishonest is just fun
I don't support Mellteam because they're all russian subhumans
>>544211183>calico>honesthope you get a car wreck. not even looking at the rest of your list
>>544211179Chaps
>>544211183how is invincibility not dishonest
>>5442111832 of calico's 4 abilities are disengage tools
>>544211179Daisy Dukes and/or no undershirt
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
So what's the character for ensuring the fed carry on the enemy team can't keep the train rolling?
>>544211183>Shiv>honest>Bebop>dishonestExplain this
>>544211071Never heard of this peru thing, I thought brazilians were the russians of america
>>544211513The Doorman, Mo and Krill, Abrams (this is very reliant on you getting a lead in lane though)
>>544211183What in God's name is this zoomerism of calling people they do not like pedophiles?
>>544211614I think it's more ebonics/americanism than zoomerism
>>544211614pedophile is the new word for faggot tranny used to be the new word for faggot but now the people who used it are trannies
>>544211179make her not a womanlet
>>544211183>calico>honestEven according to your own criterion you're wrong.
>>544211614its like the way zoomers coopted 'frogs' instead of 'fags' from 4chan lingo, aka newfag into newfrog. pedo is the nigger+ replacement
>play paige>see team struggling with fight>ult across the map>heal the entire team, hit 4 enemies>team still loses the fightwelp
>>544211586Nah peru is measurably worse than all of SA. Im not racist against any SA country other than them.
>>544211183>sorta honest>sinclair
>buff enjoyers again throw the map over midbossi cant, who makes these retarded decisions
>>544211890i think they forgot they're playing against russians who don't mind cheating to win
Where can I find detailed patch notes.Not knowing what is changing in my game every time it updates, which is multiple times per day, is driving me nuts.Forum posts seem to only include big patches.
>>544211791He said sexier, not less sexy
>that hatecrimeLMAO
>>544211978check the le op
>>544211978You're SoL. Since the secret build came out they rarely use discord to inform of the minor changes
>>544211768>>544211827I find all of this pedophile and slur nonsense quite obnoxious, but I suppose that's the point. If it didn't elicit a response, it would not propagate. That's how meme theory works.Sometimes i feel as if I am the only normal person on this website who doesn't feel the urge to scream insults at everyone for mild inconveniences, or to obsess over minorities.
>>544212040vindicta RAPED and GAPED on the shop
>Play hard carry Cassidy>Get done farming>15k souls ahead of everybody>Game ends in victory right as I'm about to enter my first fight
>>544212087um but they do
>>544212119I'll never forget how much I hate niggers because I grew up in a black majority area. The same can't be said for suburban bloatlords who spam nigger and have never interacted with the type of porch monkey you find in rustbelt cities.
>>544212238He wasn't asking about the big patches. Read OP's post
>>544211614it's the safest harsh insult you can throw at someoneit plays excellently into their retarded cancel cultureif you see someone using pedo as a generic insult in the same way you'd call someone a nigger here, know that they are discord/twitter newfags
>midboss not aliveBE WON THEY CANT THROW ANYMORE YESSS
>>544212220>Cassidyleave
>>544212040i laughed so hard
>>544212220His name's McCree THOUGH.
>>544212439kek
>>544212439One of my favourite things to do if I play Mo
>>544212439Nonconsent
>>544212439is that a mod for mokrill
MIDBOSS THROW INCOMING FUCK
>>544212439speaking of mccree
>>544212439this is how hathorne did it to her
>>544211834KJ's speech at TI this year was enough for me to not hate SA anymore, would probably change if they showed up in my NA DL games tho
>>544212612fumbled again LMAO
>BE's only Russian player just griefed their midboss attempt
I FUCKING CALLED IT OH MY GOD THEY DESERVE TO LOSETHREE TIMES IN A ROWTHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>544212590https://deadlocker.net/mod/mod_1757583338746/
>they throw for mid AGAIN
RACISM WON AGAIN
>>544212439I'll never drop into ss without full vision on the enemy team again because of this webm
>they lost from that
>>544212749so............... sovl..................
Obikym getting kicked after that one
this is scriptedi cant believe buff enjoyers are this fucking stupidliterally giving the game away in the same fashion three times in a row
>>544212919The vindicta literally pulled Shiv away from the rejuve
>>544212919I think its a bit too early to throw 322 accusations, what is there to gain?
>>544212872that absolute braindead retard that called for midboss deserves to get kicked, how can you be this fucking stupidthey lost three midboss fights in a row with more people thereTHREE TIMES, HOW
THE LASH could've saved that. or dynacuck i guess. mostly THE LASH.
why did they just have to buff calico into being useablesome heroes are meant to be for onetricks. Allowing her to be used by the most braindead pub player makes it obnoxious to see every match
This is such a based draft.
>>544212762Mid is op so you should throw for it imo
>>544213248>dishonest>dishonest>dishonest>dishonest>whatever>whatever
BE made the mistake of using a white man's mindset against chinese/russian cheater culture
>>544213325yes but combined it's beyond based.
>>544213248>whatever>sovl>sovl>soulless>sovl>whatever
>>544213248Ugh not looking forward to miku in every game
inhouse?
>>544213325Honest and dishonest mean nothing in this general, its reddit tourist way of calling heroes OP or imba without being immediately called out due to how vague the definition os ''honest'' is. Just stop being a coward and say you got raped by 4 out of 6 heroes there.
Now that the games are over anyone up for inhouse?
>>544213543no and I hope nobody ever calls inhouses ever again
>>544213543yeah sure.
>>544210751>the only good builds are gun buildsat what point do they just say fuck it and turn this game into a hero shooter
>>544211183Bait used to be believable
>>544213248When does that game start? I want to watch McGinnis. Can I watch in-client?
>>544213624OkayF6KGM
>MVP for BE vs MT
>>544213670>only good builds are gun builds
>>544211183>mcginnis 3 dishonestwhich is the one that's honest? the fucking heal? the worthless turrets? the useless barrage?
>>544213670Meanwhile in reality the only good builds are hybrid builds with 9.6k in each category which then stack t4 gun if game not over
>>544213670you faggots are so retarded
>>544213248based goopoid
>>544213670shitlow detected
>>544213670No uh they put guns into the game for them to be cosmetic
>>544213670no clue cat poster strikes again
When's the next tournament?
>>544214092>>544213835Which one nigga?
>>544213846Shit example, Mina is a gun build but you need spirit items to deal damage. Same with Infernus but you won't call him a spirit carry.Should have sent someone like Doorman, Paradox, Geist even, Lash, whever
>>544214184F6KGMF6KGMF6KGM
>>544214203drifter*
>>544214203>Mina is a gun buildI would call infernus a spirit carry if he built around his DoT as hard as Mina did her 3.
>Stun a hero>Root them, whatever>Their head snaps to a new position and you can't headshot themSo annoying
9 slots for any Deadlock playersF6KGM
>saw someone complaining about mark drifter throwing his mark + decay and doing a ton of damage im a visionary
>>544214546This shit was aids in OW>stun a zarya>her head does a whip backwards>no guaranteed headshot because chest moves up making it a body shotI think it got fixed at one point but it was funny how ass the hitboxes were around release.
MELLTEAM IS FUCKING BASED
>the best team in eu is 5 random russians and ABLhow the hell are we supposed to take eu seriously now?
>>544215309The other guys on that team were on the only other org before they pulled out
Get rich or die tryin'
>>544213950>best lane sustain>strongest lane gun that never falls off>strongest, uncounterable cc and escape ability in the game>auto-aim turrets that can easily 100-0 you in seconds and force you to choose between them and ginnis>ult with some of the best area denial in relation to rangeThere is not a single aspect of ginnis other than her lack of stamina that is honest.Her turrets should aim where she's aiming and only shoot if her crosshair is currently on a hero.
>>544215510>m on team>lose
>>544215545Are you posting from July 2024 or something?
>>544215570Still have no idea who that is
>>544213985>>544213991>>544214031>no counterarguments only insultsty for conceding
>>544214857>run into an absolute stone wall of a team>feel like I can't do anything with Drifter>decide to try out my DoT build I cooked up>actually start winning and doing stuff just by spamming marks and decay on their tanksGreat minds think alike
Can someone webm that mid throw? wtf was that rescue beam
>>544215787you dont realize this but in the last few years wh*tes have stopped explaining themselves due to the vast amount of indians that now populate the internet, our time is not equal
>>544215954>Can someone webm that mid throw? wtf was that rescue beamHe was threatened by putin to throw that match for sure
>>544215570who?
INHOUSE!!!!! JOIN!!!!!!!F6KGMF6KGMF6KGM
>>544215869>Enemy has 3 HP trading tanks>Decay is goodI never considered this before
>>544216163i'm not joining
>>544216163i'm really tired and sleepy and a chud what hero do i play
>>544215545>heal cannot move and is easily countered by alch fire or any aoe damage>turrets that deal 5 damage per minute after lane>wall with 30s cooldown and is hardcountered by kicking over a real wall>ult that deals 5 damage after lane phase and is easily countered by going airborne or breaking LOS>gun that requires full investment to outshred any burst damage that instakills her
>>544216348Krilliam and Mohammed
>>544216613there is no world where alch fire outdamages her heal.it's fucking 3% of max life per second, all the not shit ginnis players max it first.
>>544216163Don't forget to me get out of player slot when you guys shuffle
>>544216613>can't build spirit>can't build ult>can't build pick>can't build tank>can build support>worst support>can build gun>worst gun in the worst meta for gun
>>544215730>>544216047
Just woke up. Is gun Doorman now dead?
>>544217046i put that white gurl in her place
>>544217379no not really
>4 matches in a row with 0/10 feedershell>be sinclair>copy dynamo's ult>everybody runs away in fear thinking it's the enemy
>>544217417She’s asian
>>544217379we just dont know
>>544211179change her voice over, otherwise she's quite ok, even if her design doesnt scream "look at me im the dickbait"MAYBE change her face a lil bit cuz under certain angles she looks a bit off
>>544217046Now draw her as Viscount of New York
>>544215869>maxed 2>extra chargebased believerthis build path is better than you'd expect. escalating exposure and you melt people with decay + mark, then you teleport in with rend + spirit snatch to executecheck your damage by type after the match. I started leaning more into mark after noticing how much it hurts
>>544217379rapist doorman where he one shots you in a cart stun is dead but not gun man he's still good
>>544211179I would literally just make her face attractive
A hotel employee has a better gun build than a sheriff, let that sink in
>>544211179she looks fine, retard
>>544218170that actually tracks in america
>>544217601i put that asian gurl in her place
>>544217046futa hex on this one
>>544211179Like other anons said just a better face, she’s a bitter rural sheriff she isn’t meant to make you want to goon
>>544211179I like her concept, both her VA and model feel like purposefully bad execution WIP
i dont know why so many of you think holiday isnt fine just the way she is
>>544219090She needs a texture update for sure, her clothes have no texture to them at all
>Victor feds bebop bombs>Does 60 stacks in 8 minsIm impressed at how retarded some people can be
>>544219171Old Wraith was also "fine" until her glow up, and then she was much better. Same with Old Lash, and even Old Vindicta had a defense force that thought she was fine. People don't know what they want.
I went from 56% winrate drifter to 81% by switching to melee drifter builds lol
Why in the ever living fuck would you put a 5 man stack vs 6 solo queue
holliday needs a bbl, lip filler, extended lashes, big nails, blonde straight hair, pink crop top, high heels, fishnets, miniskirt, handbag and a valley girl voice
Why does the objective damage meter lie? I destroyed two base guardians by shooting at them. Do those not count as "objectives"?
>>544219734But keep the big gun and powder keg
>>544211183>Victor dishonest?
>>544219324higher fidelity =! better. like lash. the model quality is better but the creative direction was ruinedold lash's visuals looked like a working class dickheadnew lash looks like a tranny chaser. making him a metrosexual was so lame
>>544219789were you actually dealing damage to them? never seen that happen before
>>544220495Yes. I shot them both, and I shot one from full health to zero health. The other I shot at, but I think a different hero got the killing blow on. I'll record it once the replay becomes available.
>Make a vindicta crash out and spam KYS after he goes 0/10 as a billychadTime for the coming of the goat.
should i just uninstall if i cant hit shots reliably
>>544220821>things that didn't happen
>>544220852buy that + bullet speed item for 800
>>544220372I love old lash but "ruined" is way too extreme. He's still lash, he's fine. Look at what they were thinking of doing to Viscous if you want to see an actually ruined design
>>544220852no just install this insteadhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/824270/KovaaKs/10 minutes a day of a good routine
>>544220852just play characters that are less aiming intensiveM&K is the king of this
>Dynamo keeps going solo to push side lanes>lash is never joins any fight and constantly gets caught aloneWhy do people pick these characters if theyre gonna play them like theyre on Haze/Wraith
How many designs are placeholders from neon or whatever it was called? Shiv and Calico are, right?
2 slotsF6KGM
>>54422099610 dollars? For an aim trainer?? Aimlabs is free.
More like 2 sluts
>>544221440>is freeand it's also an abomination
>>544221134Shiv, Bebop, Viscous, Yamato, off the top of my head.
>>544221134calico used to look like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_QN58aPLVg
>>544220915I believe him Vinny’s are always the fragile ones
>Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.I skipped the tutorial and sanbox, I get the gist of moba but obviously not the finer details of this one yet. Just going into standard and playing whatever I get given until ive gone through the whole roster, am I fucked when it comes time to get my epic rank
only ONE more needed join inF6KGMF6KGMF6KGM
Become part of the aim community (buy cheats)
>>544221563Kelvin too it seems
>>544221440kovaaks is genuinely better, but you can also just play the game instead which is also free.
>>544221563So often we look at concept art or unused designs and think "why didn't we get this?" The grass looks greener on the road untraveled. It's nice that Neon Prime exists to remind us that sometimes things are just fucking awful and need to be completely revamped.
>>544221705Kelvin got an update, they just didn't change much and he still looks out of place because his entire design is just kind of boring and generic
>>544221563weird that there are characters like wrecker and raven that were playable a year ago and still aren't out yet
>>544221563I am now reminded of when Calico had those fuckass cat turrets she could stack and instakill you with
>>544211435>>544211381Good points, I was too focused on Calico's weaknesses and I forgot how slippery she is>>544211879Forgot his clone is used as an escape tool as well>>544220237He has a lot of CC
>>544221563>Wooden prosthetic Calico is the redesignThese east coast basedjaks can't be serious
>play aggressive yamato>get shredded and die>play teamfight yamato>nobody watches my back and i get dogpiled>play defensive yamato>have zero impact>play macro yamato>zero impacti give up this hero just is the antithesis of my playstyle
mina sex!!!
>>544222485Just do a bruiser build, that is all you need to do.>>544222585I still think that one "mod" isn't actually real
>watch deadlock streams on twitch to see what high level play is like>90% of the top view streamers are obviously smurfing What's the point
>>544222737what modfor science, obviously
>>544222747streamers think viewers only want le hype stomps and most people stream because they want NEETbux so they try to play the crowd
>mcginnis building support items but farming all game>constantly dropping bags to the infernus in his solo lane>literally just making it a 7v5 what the fuck
>>544221440if you are enough of a retard that you aim train for this game just spend the 10 dollars
So why did I get zero objective damage? Video cut short so it wouldn't show the name of my teammate.
>>544222381victor's stun is honest, same as seven's
They should make it so guardian doesn't attack immediately.There's no skill in just jumping in, parry, and then do whatever fuck you want.Player shouldn't be able to just jump into guardian without any risks.
>>544223131base guardians aren’t real objectives they’re like t2 jungle monsters
>>544223131Afaik objective damage only counts lane guardians, walkers and patron.
>>544222915the futa mod
hot takedebuff remover should go back to being able to remove affliction
>>544223414>cute asian girl>turn her into a dudeThis game really does have the gayest niggas
imagine being this fucking retarded30 minutes of farming and feeding your soul bags to the enemy carry and doing 10k damage
>>544223456in exchange pocket gets gunman tier gun scaling
>>544222915It gets posted threadly
>>544223526LMAO 35% winrate no wonder
>>544223154Not his stun, the other things
>>544223810The slow being on that upgrade slot for his pain battery is actually a nerf
>try to boxxmaxx during lane>my buddy gets more souls just pushing the lane then I did even with stuff like the underground teleporter routebug or feature?
Christ I'm losing a lot on Drifter now wtf. Already fell down to Phantom 2. How do I win with this guy? Just been getting stomped nonstop
>>544224197well he gets more , but your lane is more in total
>Get hit by two Shiv knives lategame>Survive with 20 healthIs this normal? Are they supposed to deal a stupid amount of damage?
>>544224408Shiv sucks ass, whatever he did, he needs it
>>544224408>he doesn't buy any spirit resistyeah
>>544224408Scales with spirit and I'm guessing he had duration extenderThe knives stack the damage, and reset the timer. Spirit shielding helps early and resistance overall (debuff remover too), but yes a shiv that aims will be a massive threat to you.
>>544224110Yes, Valve hates him for some reason.
>>544224631>Shiv sucks assDo people actually think this? He's picked in almost ever tournament match still
>>544224929Shiv is good but he's kinda hard. And if you fall behind on him it's joever
3 slots F6KGM
>can only win inhouses with kelvin
>>544222915
>>544223526>bring back 6 lanes>doesnt try to bash his head against the wall and force-brute his way through enemy objectivesfake gamer
>>544225331you meant to say>can only win inhouses when THE LASH is on your team
>>544225476>6 lanesImagine
>>544225372wish i was that abrahms in particular
>>544225372this mod explains at least some of the minas with dogshit aim on my team. they're not even looking at the enemy hero models
FUN
>>544223526many such cases
>last match lane mate won't shoot orbs so enemy gets more souls>fed enemy ends up carrying match>we lose>this match shiv keeps inting joining fights after we've lost instead of during>doorman joins in that idea too>we loseas my rank gets higher my teammates get worse at the game.
>>544224197when you are getting boxes your lane mate is supposed to make sure you get the wave too, if you are missing the creeps in lane to get boxes you shouldnt be doing it
why the fuck do billys never die and seem to get damage resistance when they're at 1% hp
their rage is spilling forth
>>544217043Nah, her support is actually kind of insane, max out range, spirit power and Healing Tempo and behold as your entire team gets a max HP heal the size of the fucking base and 75% fire rate all in one
they are starting a riot
Bebop? Belongs in a scrap pile, and Lash was relevant for 20 minutes 3 years agoill kick both er asses
>>544226830Issa balance
we're all so shit with a game lasting this long but it was pretty fun being unkillable
why's this game's player base so fucking obnoxious?
anyone getting on?
>>544227906it's full of dota/lol refugees
hi dlghow are you
>>544226410that holliday just like me fr
>>544228105100 pp
>>544227906That's just what mobas do to you
>>544215545>strongest uncounterable ccthat depends on if it fucking works or not, whether it teleports someone to the opposite side that she wants, plus, it still doesn't stop people from just shooting her if they're on the same side as her.
>>544227906TF2 redditor/troons + MOBA
>>544227906Autistic gameplay, autistic players
>>544227906Diddy ah bluds
Everytime I watch a youtube video of Deadlock they got some fancy UI where with a press of a button you can see the items of your enemies without hover over the portrait.Is this some kind of option in the menu or a mod?
just carried lystic in mm
>>544227906Valve gamepls understand
>>544224408It refreshes the duration. Combined with extended duration + escalating then proccing it a second time for more time it can add up to QUITE a lot. Get debuff remover
>>544228626based
>>544228621It's a mod
>>544228363erase all troons
>>544227962dotards are mostly silent. people in deadlock blog and pause all the time.
>>544228626join inhouse you fuck
I'm 17-6 with sinclair this character is just disgustingI dont even want to play him he doesn't feel fair
Im new to the inhouse shit, but I just joined
>>544224929>He's is always picked with a 6 man stack of fat shutin poopsockersyeah no shit, solo queue he is pure hell to play with
*ruins the inhouse*I'm going go ballistic if I find another dynamo player building heal instead of blackhole in my pubs
>>544227906Ask the people here.Why are you guys being so hostile and obnoxious?Don't deflect it to "It's X moba refugees!!" like some of the gays here do.YOU, are one of the problems.So explain why you just can't be a friendly and good person?
>buy return fire a bit late>10k damage delt with itholy shit gun builds are so worthless
need juan more F6KGM
quick question: do healing tempos stack with each other?
>>544231453Some crazy black holes in that game I was rather entertained
>>544231728No
>>544231730I see why pros don't pick him, you need at least 30 minutes even if you rush ult build and he's so fucking fat too so everything hits you.
let's please not to dupe heroes
>>544227906I think some people have an idea that mobas are inherently toxic so to play, you have to be toxic yourself. I'm playing with a couple people who have never played LoL or DotA but they would talk about how TOXIC those games are without ever having played. Now they're playing Deadlock and they're the first to start blaming and complaining about teammates even though they're still noobs themselves.
High ping is so wacky. I'll be 5 metres from someone and get heavy melee'd. >>544231345welcome, mate
main menu music is hella super grating on the ears and the mind. not a fan.
>>544227156i didn't say her support was bad, i said its the worst support in the game
if I have to fight TWO mcginnis I'm gonna kill myself IRL
1 more for inhouse instaqueueF6KGM
>>544232254hold on let me make it worse.
>>544232040nice auto parry
>>544232410The Slapahoe tribe? The one near the Puntacunt river basin?
Just so I'm clear on Warden, he's basically fucking useless unless his ult is up, with the minor exception of having a mediocre rootright?
Picture thisVyperBUTShe's sexually assaulting Paige
>>544232040dark souls netcode
Need more monsters and mages like Drifter and Paige that don't wield real guns.
Double Agent Doorman. Also Ivy needs to have her wings clipped permanently
>>544232567That's my observation as a nonwarden player yeah.
>>544226358i'm looking at the enemy hero models and i still can't hit them it's so fucking over for me
I'm so glad they removed the FOV change shit. Make everyone suffer who abused itYou'll get it back when they add it as an actual option in game
>>544232582>paige being forced to rim vyper's cloacakino
what does your comms wheel look like?
>>544232751https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqyy4j32hWk
>>544233048i dont even know what the keybind for that is
>>544232751Just play Drifter like a baboon and you can't miss your shotgun blasts up close
>>544230004It didnt used to be that way until valve gave everyone infinite reports + comm score so if you say a single word you get reported by butthurt freaks
>>544233048>[Contextual Slot]There has to be a more elegant way of putting that
anuda day, anuda lash put in his place
>>544233771das rite, fuck dat white boy up playa
>>544233846g unit
Just had my first game with a cheater. Aimbot gun holliday, that sucked
>>544233771Maaany many many many men
>>544233771your kelvin carried you
>>544234451post clips?
>>544210841Is Ivy autistic
>>544210841I'd give Ivy my seed
>>544234952dude getting clips is such a hassle. It's like a 6 step process, would probably take me like a half hour, I'd rather just play another gameI will say that he had 48% headshot damage in the post game, compared to 33% regular gun damage
>>544234451First game you NOTICED. a lot of these fags only toggle and/or have lower headshot accuracy rates baked in so it isnt obvious
Mina players have this obsession with instantly clearing the entire jungle solo with her retarded farming kit and then afking
dupes are retarded and not fun. stop doing those
>>544235753I'll never pick multiple GT's again I am sorry.
>>544235753disagreedwe should do an all GT lobby some dayi had fun
That was fun for the first timeT. Krill
wtf was that talon line and why the fuck was it NOT cancer to play against?
>>544227906I actually really dont think this playerbase is that bad, especially considering how bad it could be
we need 1 more arigato F6KGM
>Bebop stands at shop in lane>Does nothing but stand there all lane long>Lose lane>Bebop complains about my performanceWhat was his problem?
>>544235898what talon line?
>>544236181talon + me on ginnie vs 2 talons
Fun gun characters that aren't that commonly played as gun?
Three games on Drifter, three losses. >>544235886Bro you had it out for me. I could see it your eyes
F6KGMF6KGMF6KGMneed 1 more PATRIOT
>>544236343yamatolightbringer build
how do I win vs infernus who goes 8/1 in laning phase and has 5k networth over me
>>544236595you don't let him get eight kills in lane.
>>544236595CURSE
>>544236473Based and Linkara pilled
>>544236689how do I do that when I'm going neutral and fighting for my life in my own lane
>>544236370Just so you know, Point Blank doesn't work on Drifter's 1, other than the slow. Same for all melee abilities. You only get the damage from it being a 3200 yellowUsually you go Point Blank after you have actual damage items
>>544236595ward his jungle
>>544234990I like to think she's fucking with the Drifter a bit
>>544210841Billy and Vyper is better
lash is such a loser ass fucking hero dude. fairy ass bitch.
>>544234990considering she has an ability that throws plants onto the ground she's either fucking with him or she's retarded
If I was to steal as many of the enemy's sinners as possible, how much of a big deal would that actualy be for the overall game?
who's good to play if you're a little drunk and can't play aim heroes
>>544237695probably a huge edge but you'd need to be playing against people who are just letting you solo steal all their shit for free so you'd probably win the game regardless
>>544237695A lotEvery sinner is ~500 souls. If you're taking the enemy's, that's a 1k deficit per sinner assuming they otherwise would've gotten them before respawning. Getting the 4 buffs from sinner is worth 300 souls as well. So in essence, 1600 soul deficit per sinnerSinners might as well be the second win condition beside midboss
Is there anything better than winning and taunting someone after they taunted you in laning phase? I hope you ragequit the game you weeb bitch.
>>544237695you should pretty much always do this (and steal their jungle) if the game's in a lukewarm state with not much happening and they have some m1gger waiting to get farm to own you, it's less resources on their part + the buffs really add up
Give me some music suggestions.No norime shit and definitely no faggot shit.
>look at top streamers>Pocket, Pocket, Haze, Infernus, Mina, Infernus, Mina, Haze, Infernus, Doorman, PocketPLAY SOMETHING WITH SOUL FUCK YOU
>>544238097Pokemon Teaches Typing Boss Battle on loop for 10 hours
>>544236895greens, spirit shielding/enchanters/bullet vest and monster rounds to counterpush
there arent enough skilled r34 deadlock artists
>>544212439The map fucking sucks to bad. You can see everything from everywhere, while every single fucking MOBA you can only see a small parts of the map due to the fog of war.>"HOW DO YOU DO THAT IN 3D?!?!?"How about removing sightlines from the map, nigger
>>544237695a huge amount, it's big money and also the buffs are also basically money
>>544238175what is soul to you buddy
>>544238283I can slop Paige assfucking my OC so the artists are unnecessary
>>544238345NTA, but easy mode heroes literally have no soul
>>544238359Advantages of being gay I guessPost OC
>>544238097https://youtu.be/DmIb-I9knGk
>>544238435no
>>544237916One sinner's buff is worth 300 souls?
>>544238097https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uZnbzTG1jY
>>544238345Something unconventional shit that shows you're not carried by your characterA nigger that goes into the enemy team and actually risks deathSomething that doesn't just clear the entire jungle in .5 seconds and wonder why everyone else is pooridgaf, just not the same three fag characters
>>544238497Trooncore
>>544238540The full 4 is worth 300, yeah
>>544238775Is this a 1 to 1 with stats given by items or something?
Heavy melee needs a nerf.You should only be able to turn maybe 45 degrees at most, not doing a fucking 180 the last frame of a heavy melee.
>>544238665youre thinking of breakcore this is modern jungle
>>544238429>>544238645so maurice and krilliam then ok
>>544238873I don't know if it's exact 1:1, but it's close enough and averaged since you don't always get the same stats. But it is based on the value of stats
>>544238892I have no fucking idea why enemies can bluetooth melee me through a dash around a corner but I can't hit someone right in front of meis it ping
>>544238893>https://youtu.be/4ec-MnePMpEThis is jungle to me
>>544238097https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mJ4dpNal_khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ0OOHLWo4whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aME0qvhZ37ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDQpZT3GhDghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ue9igC7flI
Big props to that melee wraith
GGs inhousehad some funt. infurnus and mo
>>544232804anon..they didn't remove it they just reset your gameinfo.gi file
people in my last game complaining about geist bombs causing lag. is anyone else getting this? cuz I'm sure not
>>544211071Unironically yes. All NA top players play on EU because NA servers are infested with South Americans who hate playing with each other.Monkeys escaped the monkey pen and turned the whole zoo into a shit pile.The funny thing now is south americans trying to play on Europe servers since they're still chasing white people.
F6KGMF6KGM
>pick drifter first>faggot picks drifter after me so we have to restart the lobby>now he's already drifterBruh
>>544239405just rejoin he went wraith
>>544239405come back...
>>544239274Everyone's whining that it literally doesn't work
>>544239331this cant be real what the fuck. will yoshit do something about region hopping in deadlock?
>>544239405I'm already Drifter
>>544239535Then I'll go Doorman
>>544239513I'd say no since they never cared with Dota but they do seem up to actually trying to fix things that drove away most of the sane Dota 2 playerbase.
>>544239105yes that is also jungle
>>544238892The actual nerf is to parry on light melee. As it is you are punished HARD and that's it.It should never be the same stun as a heavy melee, only the stun enough for 1 heavy melee, not 2. You get punished, but not as hard.Or you get stunned but the light melee damage goes through anyways. You get punished HARD, but you also secure those last 20hp hit. Maybe there's an interaction with a melee item that block half that damage.Otherwise the light melee is just in the game to break boxes and has no real advantage or usage on actual combat
>>544239571I'm already Doorman
>>544239513He did already. Long time ago you used to be able to switch regions through the console, I remember it fondly. However it's impossible to truly stop people using third-party programs from server-hopping
Need 3F6KGMF6KGMF6KGMF6KGM
>>544239675What about Mo & Krill?
>>544239717>put server hopping behind a $5 vpn paywall>south americans stop showing up
>>544239664This guy has no idea what billy is
>>544238892Then remove parry lol>NOOOO you shouldn't ever be allowed to click an important button of some characters without getting killed on reactionIf they're gonna make heavies so easily to react to, this is the mindgame you get. Though it's barely even a mindgame, it's gambling
>2/7 Lash loudly crying over voice comms about how the game is over>Ten minutes inDo these people not understand that their defeatist mindset doesn't help anyone at all?
>dont like win11 bullshit>move to linux >the game run like aids anyone else fell for it ?
>>544239986It helps themCalling you a nigger probably makes them feel a bit better
>>544239405heh we should have done the dupe drifterdrifter is honest
>>544240023This is why Jewsoft will have me by the balls forever.
>>544240023>move to linuxi used linux 10 years ago for 5 years and i wouldn't recommend it to most peopledo normies really think they can live with it
>>544240129I think it would've been fine but the team with two drifters is probably just gonna get stomped
>>544240023Stay on Win 10 and either pirate the 3 years of updates jews get, or use Windows 10 LTSC since it'll get updates to 2032No matter how Linux niggers try to justify it, it won't be fit for gaming and AI shit for a decade
Do I shuffle the teams, I have no idea how good some of these guys are.
>>544239664Light melees SHOULD be punished to hell. Billy is already a fucking menace by just randomly light meleeing you, it basically becomes a guessing game and if you miss one parry you're mega fucked.
>>544240314I really need a win here...
>>544211071>>544211110>>544211134>>544211586>>544239513The funny thing is that if it's real, it means the mmr is bad, and if it's not real, it's just gaming dunning-kruger.There's no "region hopping">If I hop to NA I'll win more games!>We are losing games because this SA player playing in our region!Both are just plain bad and just looking for excuses as to why you are losing (but it's not your fault)Or not, which means the mmr IS broken and players should hop to fix the things the game isn't doing.
F6KGMone more playa required
Need 1F6KGMF6KGMF6KGM
>>544240023Yes, I think it's a Vulkan issue so I have another nvme just for Windows to play this game lol
>>544240371>>544239837Just because you don't know how to deal with Billy doesn't mean the other 35 characters have to have subpar mechanics in the game
>win 8 of my 9 past games>rank didn't move
>>544240627Nah, you're just one of those dumb motherfuckers who are 50% vs 5% HP enemy melee range and instead of just reloading and killing them you light melee, get parried, and fucking die then cry about it. Same old story.
>>544241000>Emissary 4>win 10 games>Emissary 5>Lose 10 games>Emissary 2Bros....
Lost all four inhouse games tonight; might do something dangerous... Didn't even feel like I played that poorly. Just unlucky I guess
I've been out of the loop, is hat Yamato confirmed to be her new actual design? Please tell me it isn't.
>Try to learn Doorman, seems cool>Not doing great, some bad plays but learning still>Team flames the fuck out of me:( I just want to learn man
Ah well was fun.>>544241393Redditman too strong in games that go past 30
>>544240448Dota is a dead game in NA, nothing to do with mmr. Nobody wants to play with peruvians or russians because they are annoying.
>>544241393yeah you did have the most amount of kills in half those games. that's drifter for you
think im gonna get upped to arcanist 2 tonightplay shit and get dropped to alchemist like a piece of trashso fucking tired of being bad
>>544241393You didn't play that good either, that haze was trash with that 10%HP ult
>>544241393>seren sniping the final blowkek fucking AGENT.
>>544239986sometimes your lane partner is genuinely so low IQ you just decide to save yourself the trouble of having to play the game out.i've only done this one time out of like 500 games.
>>544241470You are supposed to learn with the bots bruhOr a good long session of empty new yorkNot learning door placements and ranges in gameBut this is a moba, you are one retard in a million
>>544241470game release will solve this by allowing you to play unranked
>>544241470Muteall
>>544241628He spaced fine and played it fine you nigger
>>544241552>because they are annoying.the casus belli here is clearly the peruvians thinking "The NA guys play better" and the NA saying "The peruvians play badly, and the NA plays badly, the EU guys play better"There's probably some EU guys thinking that SA guys are trash and hoping to try and get "easier matches to win"Everyone is equally bad (if the mmr works)
Are bot servers NA only or something? I always get consistent 130 ping when trying to play against bots.
>retard flames me early on >call him retarded and mute him>later in the game he gets mad at someone else then refuses to play and hides in a corner of the map as the game endsvalve gonna need to add behavior score soon it's already happening
>>544241996If you ult when you are 10% HP noyou are not "playing fine"The fuck are you talking aboutHe was trying to chase a low mirage INSIDE DRIFTER'S ULT
>>544242208I obviously meant the Drifter that you were trying to downplay played fine
>>5442417893 more years!
I think one thing I want to do more is gank really early. One time I ran to bridge buff and got a free stack just be being near an abrams kill. Sometimes your own lane just isn't fruitful enough for the stacks you need>>544241591yeah hard to have teamfight impact a lot of the time. >>544241628Let's not call other people trash. I'm not claiming anything other than I don't think I deserved to lose all four of them tbqhwyf. I mainly speak in jest, I don't mind losing inhouse that much since it's unranked and for fun. It's good practice>>544241658Yeah they need to tweak how Drifter gets his stacks. It's too easy for teammates to just get the final blow. Feels really gay to say on mic "let me get the last hit PLEASE"
Why do I keep getting low priority? If the game makes me wait 8+ minutes in respawn time, then the game abandoned me, I'm free to leave. If a 1/4 to 1/3 of my time playing is respawning, then I'm not going to play.
not touching this shit until they fix match making
>>544242537Ok schizo take your meds
>>544241470I want you to look at yourself and ask if chat/teamspeak has been helpful in any video game ever. I can legitimately count the number of times on one hand that chat didn't immediately devolve into flame. It's never worth it man, just turn it off for your sanity.
>>544242537If you are waiting 8+ minutes in respawn time that means you are dying 12+ times per matchThat has nothing to do with the game (outside your first matches before you get a better mmr placement)
>>544242554they won't, just like they won't ever nerf the blatantly OP characters
>>544241851>>544242737I have never been so fucking demoralized in my life trying thisTried a 2nd game and wanted to fucking kill myself laning against PocketFuck this nigger game, I think I might uninstall
>>544239664jesus christ why did I went to that twitter
>>544242872see>>544241786maybe take some accountability and admit your laning partners are right and you are doing something wrong
>>544242485yea I think I won all inhouse matches except the first, and I was building retarded shit like purple only yamato and greenbramsIt felt like some teams just played together better, and that’s all. You did good thougheverbeit
>>544242737Teamwork has been useful in 80% of my games what rank are you? I dont understand this mentality of hating talking so much in a TEAM game you cant handle it entirely. Go play something else.
>>544242872>why am I not immediately good at this very complicated video game it's shit!!!!!!!
>>544242776I died 8 times in a 40 minute match, with 1 30 second respawn and 7 90 second respawn timers, so no, I'm not interested in playing a game where I can be chain stunned / curse spammed out of the game when the enemy team realizes my team are worthless pieces of trash that cant deal 15k damage in a game and won't push.
>>544243041NTA but Bots are worthless, you learn nothing from them. You learn abilities in the hide out, and the empty map is good for learning the door placement, but bots is genuinely a waste of time.>>544242872>Doorman vs PocketLoss writ in the stars there. Just tell your team you are learning. Anyone who talks shit about someone trying to be better is a faggot in of themselves. Or just accept a character is not for you and move on
>>544243292It's not the games fault I'm shit. But it feels like shit to be shit and let down 5 other people. Game does not lend itself well to learning new characters, especially mechanically intense ones
>>544242485>I'm not claiming anything other than I don't think I deserved to lose all four of themHonestly I thought you played pretty well. But it just didn't carry into the late game
>green, blue, purple characters this patchall time biggest loss streak, unable to carry>red, orange charactersoverbearing damage, huge map presence, easy wins
Is drifter meta now?
>am kelvin>enemy drifter tries to solo me>push 4 and laugh in his face as my torment pulse rips his asshole apart>teabag him>he proceeds to try and solo gank me multiple times>I buy suppressor and scourge and he just dies of cancer whenever he tries to commit to me while his fire rate is slowed to a crawl>he even manages to sneak up and shoot me off the zipline and I still win the tradeI bet that dude was seething so hard.
>>544243126Teamwork is useful with pings and in-game voicelines but the minute you start letting people type and speak what they want freely they will always just start insulting you
>>544244185no lolYou've got 3 streamers recently that are playing him heavily to "solve" him and they all unanimously say he's omega dogshit, bottom 2 at bestBut he's fun so fuck it, play anyway
this game would be massively improved if one trick carry heroes did not exist
>>544244232Cope. Plenty of useful voice callouts in my game, just last one lash asked "can you kill this guy if I ult them" and then they took the walker off it. Yes there are the occasionally whiny people but you can just mute them. By muting everyone in advance youre just being autistic
>>544244185lol no. Might be in the worst 5 heroes right now. He's fun though. Just wait, once he gets buffed, I'll be KingLanding stalker's marks is too satisfying
>>544244279>>544244449How do we fix him then?
>>544244449>"ns" as if she's confident he wouldn't dare teleport to herDrifter is so kino.
I think I got sent to south american servers and it was literal hell, they did nothing the whole game and it took over 50 minutes to end and at the end it said it was mid ascendant
>>544244596There's a lot of shit. But the area I'd start is to make his 2 actually consistent. It's genuine RNG whether you're actually facing the correct direction to hit your 1, but if you aren't prefiring your 1 then they can casually walk out the actually damaging section of itAfter that, I dunno. It's easy to make a character concept like his oppressive. I'd like his 3 to have an active portion that isolates a chosen target for 5 seconds or something, long CD
>>544244602The fuck is ns?
>>544244752mexicans, cubans, puerto ricans are north american too, unfortunatelyand they love shiv
>>544240023why this game does not have a native linux build is beyond me, like c'mon valve is the entire reason you can play pretty much anything without a stanky anti-cheat on linux these days with good performance
>>544244596Make his 1 scale better.Make his 2 a target ability like Yamato's hook.Make his ult hit the entire enemy team, not just 2.
>>544244349People who say this shit like this are always the ones who start flaming people first
>>544245046>>Make his ult hit the entire enemy team, not just 2.>presses 4>inks your entire screen for 11.5 seconds>uses refresher to pop 4 again>blind ass nigga again for another 11.5 secondsthat would be OP for teamfights
>>544235404not to mention that replays playback at 60fps/tics so unless you match it they look jank as fuck.
>>544245206Less than you'd think.Broolin' niggas are basically not even inconvenienced.
>>544245046>Make his 2 a target ability like Yamato's hookit'd be more consistent but hitting people across the map with it feels great and it'd be a shame to lose that
>>544244596There's two ways to go about it: One would be to lean further into his 1v1/taking out lone targets, angle. While he's pretty good at that now, he's not THAT good at it. He needs a lot to be able to actually win a lot of match up against carries or tanks and half the time it takes so long to kill people he gets ganked in return. Make it so he is even more oppressive in a 1v1 but a joke otherwise. While this still gives a problem of low impact late game it gives him a more sure fire niche of hunting people farming and being an oppertunist clean up. The second way which I hear some ecelebs talk about is just making him stronger base and making him less about his passive. Give him better stats but lower his scaling on stacks. I think this is boring though, we already have a lot of heroes like that. I think a way to do the former is change his 3 to not stack weapon damage but just your amp damage. So the more people you kill isolated the better you are at it. But it's pretty much useless when they're with others (this way he's easily beaten by just grouping up and even if he's doing 100%+ damage to isolated targets he can't just solo the whole lobby in low rank)
>Be Ritualist>Regularly queued against Oracle and PhantomsThis shit is so unbelievably gay. Low population, but especially bad in OCE fuck me
>>544245143Nope I am a vocal leader and never flame. I used to though, but now I have perfected being a good callout person that tries not to talk too much to avoid offending the autists that want peace and quiet
>>544243825Sometimes you just gotta grin and bear it. But consider joining the inhouse, they're a great low stakes place to try out new heroes since it's unranked and you'll be pit against players far better or far worse than yourself so you learn a lot
>>544244596You can't without compromising his identity of "1v1 assassin", he'll always be unbalanced.The map is too small and the movement mechanics are too strong for a 1v1 character to work.
>>544245206What if he made it an aoe around him?Anybody within his aoe is now blinded.So he need to take a risk to be in the aoe and possibly get killed for it, and long range heroes have the advantage against it.
>>544244596I think he's fine right now, but they could change his passive to something that unlocks a power level later in the game. Like after 10 assists or kills you unlock something instead of the gradual stacks you get right now. Butcher in HOTS works this way but he can lose stacks upon dying until he gets to the "breakeven" area.
>>544245707I'm in Alch and the other day I got put against a top 30 guy who had beef with some guy on my team that was smurfingThey were later night queues and I recently had a 15 game win streak but still
>>544245918I would but not NA so feel like the lag would be atrocious.7 loss streak anyhow, I'm sure Yoshi will throw me a bone soon
I'm quite enjoying the Shivening lately.
I LOVE BILLY CHAINS NOT BREAKING LOS I LOVE BILLY CHAINS NOT BREAKING LOS I LOVE BILLY CHAINS NOT BREAKING LOS
>>544246442You need a second of LOS bro. It's not just 'lol he can't see you for a frame you're good'
>>544211183>lash in epsteinbebop propaganda
Was Billy good at fighting before he got goated
>>544239664got a chuckle out of me, but I'm a clanker main
>>544246725From what we can tell given his lore, his goat head thing didn't actually do anything mystical for him besides giving him a cosmetic goat headPretty sure he's doing the same shit he did before, but now he sometimes uses his head to throw people into the air. Which honestly, I could see him doing even without the horns just because he wanted to headbutt someone
I ONLY enjoy playing Seven, Victor, and Drifter, but Seven and Drifter are ass...
>>544246927I only enjoy playing Drifter and Billy. The former tanks my winrate and the latter brings it back up so I'm barely positive
>>544244848nice shot
>>544246927Outside of maybe ascendent/eternus I dont think tiers matter at all just git gud
>spirit drifter>punch paigeI need a third for my queuewho is made for me?
So the only way to play this game is to dox yourself?
>>544247382Gun Mo
>>544247382gun pocket
>>544247382Movespeed maxxing dynamo
>>544244596He doesn't need anything like a rework or whateverJust give him like 10-20% more bullet damage per boon and he'd be in a good spot
i really hate when players who lane against people even more retarded than they are get fed and start making shit calls due to ego or thinking they're just unkillable because they're 7k souls up on everyone else
>>544247870If a person is 7k souls, you should be playing around them regardless. Either they kill everyone so you help them get objectives after, or they're about to get farmed as the enemy team groups on them so you're meant to help keep them safeIt's your turn to centralize the game when you're 7k up
I've been enjoying shit talking Eido whenever he starts getting whiny ego, waiting until he bans meStill good. Instead he banned someone for calling his music Mexican twink music
Wait the launch pad stun is on any damage in the launch window. Doesn't that mean thing like Toxic Bullets/dots in general fuck people trying to get away?
>>544249159Read the fucking patch notes you dumb faggot
>rescue beam nullifies Billy's ult pullCANCER
>>544249159read nigger READ
>>544247472yup
>>544249250>>544249293Nah
>>544248073we WERE playing around him, we won a fight and then pushed guardian and he said to go for walker but it was early so our walker damage was low, we started hitting the walker but it was dying very slowly and we were all half hp, i said we should back off because their team was respawning and the walker was still half, he insisted we stay and lo and behold they fast zipped back and killed usthose are the types of calls i am talking about
>>544249998> but it was early so our walker damage was low,That and walkers gain resist for each person around. At 5 - 6 people it's taking half damage lol
>>544250095yeah we were 4 manning the lane with kelvin, pocket, viscous, abrams
>>544239785NERF MO & KRILL
>>544250225reddit
>>544249258Yeah and Billy's bashdown will override shiv's ult and cancel his movement
>>544239664you are the reason the internet should be nuked
>>544227906Out of all the live service games I've played this is the only thread that actually talks about the game itself. Overwatch, Fortnite and Marvel Rivals threads all devolve into gooning over cosmetics, roleplaying badly or ragebaiting with the same 3 arguments. I believe this game being so innaccessible to newcomers is a blessing in disguise. It filters all the mediocre people. I'll take any anon complaining about their stupid teammates rather than the cesspool of meaningless youtuber fed discussions the other threads have.
who are the actual good IH fags so i know what team to be on
>>544244596biggest problem i have with drifter rn is just that the stacks mechanic is super wack, it's way too dependent on enemy + team behavior and too often you get the +5% (now 4%) torn away from your hands simply because one of their friends rotated as they were dying, or because a DoT from an ally gets them instead of you. I'd prefer the current iteration if it just procced the same as trophy stacks but in all likelihood it'd work best slightly reworked to give a different stat and have some different trigger condition like killing them with a melee or having to stand on top of their body to "drink" or something like that
>>544250707say that to talonthe exact enemy+team behavior but you get +4 damage per kill+4 damageYou get an 800 souls item that gives 185HP, and you negated a Talon killing 30 people with his owl
>>544244596>Increase his base attack damage and HP growth>Remove the permanent stack mechanic>Enemies hit by 2 have movement abilities disabled>Enemies affected by ult are isolated even when near alliesDrifter is now an actual early-mid game gank rapist instead of a weak, weird snowball hero
why did my puddle punch miss
>>544250707Just don't care about stacks. Stacks might as well be a gold statue buff. I literally do not pay attention to them because they're inconsistent>>544250879Talon does 80% of your HP with a single arrow from the other side of the map once he gets Burn and 50% until then, and his ult can be used on other lanes entirelyFor Drifter, stacks were meant to be his snowball mechanic that just doesn't work. For Talon, they're a bonus after pocketing 500 souls from the other side of the map
Claim your favorite item, I'll start.
love to be one game from getting aracnist ii and then losing four in a row like a fucking retard feeding piece of fucking shit who doesn't know how to play in the bottom of the ranks
>>544251339
>>544223526all ginnes players are fucking retardedi dont even understand how this character somehow magically pops off SOME times
>>544251102it looks really shit but I think because you place it on the stairs the hitbox was too left instead of straight up
>>544251102if there is a god he's a fucking trickster, because the amount of puddle punches I've whiffed due to being 1 pixel off is innumerable.
so what is deadlock about really? what are the themes?
>>544251368If it's any consolation, I lost 5 games in a row while being like 15/4 and playing objectives because teammates refuse to get midI demoted to Seeker
>>544251165>Just don't care about stacks. Stacks might as well be a gold statue buff. I literally do not pay attention to them because they're inconsistentI play Drifter the same way since on average they add about as much as low gun investment bonuses but it is still frustrating that one of the most impactful permanent stack skills pretty much does not work half the time. I guess the amplified isolated damage is the main point anyways
>>544251510I play McGriddle and I agree, we tend to be the most insufferable character archetype. Playing this character and having the mobility of a flat stone really does things to you. It's why I slowly moved over to playing Goo man and Paradox.
>>544252014the ult doesnt even hit anyone because it only splashes floor
>>544242010depends on the time of day probably, when I tried them I got thrown into 200 ping games as well (I'm NA)
>>544252336Her ult is decent and does good damage and applies effect, it's just really long and easy to interrupt. It's good for disrupting big fights but not much else. Also it splashing is not a bad thing, you can cheese some shots behind corners to condition space. But if you're out of position it is really easy to punish the ult.
>>544252613there's a lot of shenanigans you can commit with it too like riding ziplines while it fires
>>544250260You're right, so, Kelvin.
>play any hero and be 10k souls ahead>trade pretty evenly and still lose fights >be lash 10k souls behind>turn the time in every team fight and never die.its crazy how effective he is even with minimal farm.
Man, playing on 1440p has its drawbacks
Boxes feel so shitA lot of effort for miniscule gains. But if you don't do them then the enemy is slowly gaining an advantage
>>544252787oh that's why it did that?
>>544253015>a lot of effortit's just sliding around a few corners
is this a good pocket build
>>544253015i only hate boxes when i decide "hey yknow what i'll hit these boxes since they're so close to my rotation" and they don't have anything in them
>>544253290>splitshot abusergulag
>>544253290yes very good sar
>>544211768I dont think you understand what website you're on
>>544253387its only abuse on paige
>>544253190Sliding around 3 - 5 corners every 3 minutes for like half a sinner's worth of souls
>>544253402thank you saar. now listen to me i will tell you each and everything, i gonna need you to go to your nearest walgreens or target store and buy $500 steam gift card
>>544253520>he doesn't knowshotguns count each pellet as "another hit" with split shot, so you can max out its bonus in 1 shot
>>544253015You're supposed to get the enemy's boxes.Then you feel good every time knowing you just cucked the enemies from their souls.
what do you guys think are the chances that they introduce any alternative weapons (full melee/grenade launchers/flame throwers)inb4 0%
>>544253520yamato split shot alt fire hits multiple times on one target
>>544253832flamethrower is MAYBE the only one i can see them adding, either that or just a gun with explosive rounds that acts as a diet grenade launcher
>>544253832100% it just depends on when they grow a pair, could even take years after a full release. But its inevitable to have a rocket launcher character
>>544253592what?i thought one pellet was for full damage calc on hitting hero and that was the only advantage of a shotgunnot "oh you hit 2 different heroes 60 times because thats how many pelets you shot "
>feel like I had an amazing game>15/3/11>top networth until the very end>second lowest player damage in the gamewtf...
>>544254126you kill stealing slut
>play squishy character>so paranoid of getting killed that i rarely take any fight and end up with next to no kills or assists
i watched too many bulldog videos and now im pause BMing
>>544254460are you at least melting objectives
>>544254460Don't be a bitchPlay melees until you've gotten rid of your bitch tendencies. The only HP that matters is the last 1
>8 hard fucking losses in a row>like total stomps, 0 chanceSurely a wiin soon right? State mandated victory? Right?
does ricochet work on splitshot shots
>>544253290no, you still need maj leap and warp stone for your barrage amp dumbask
>>544251102The real answer, is the projectile plane is a flat circle with a dome bubbleYou casted that bubble on a downward plane, which means the dome won't affect anyone under that line, and the vin was walking under itThere's no best solution. If the dome would fit the "inclined plane" of the stairs, and you cast it at the bottom of the stair, that would clip the dome into the flat groundThere's no solution in which a round circle wouldn't clip against a square path
How I think I look ulting with Seven (I am about to die in 0.5 seconds)
>>544254661C'mon man it just ain't fun. Blue was down by 5 minutes and Ivy camped our lane before I could even tickle guardian. Why is the game like this today?
>>544254542i lane until literally any enemy appears in lane and then i run away unless im 100% i could kill them although usually when i try that another enemy appears and then i die further cementing my paranoia>>544254631>play meleeand get parried or geist ulted? fuck no
>>544254710test it yourself and report back to us
>>544254885indeed it does
Honestly I'm so tired of how many characters in this game just suck to play against. Victors don't die, Mina snipes me with a pistol that heals her, Paige can just heal her entire teams health bar, viper just avoids getting shot, doorman send a you back a million miles in his cart, the game is not fun right now
>>544255002huzzah! time to splitshot m2 yamato even harder
>>544255059>huzzah!I've only seen women say thismarry me
>>544254883get good
I made this Infernus so mad that he decided to throw because I wasn't playing to his satisfaction in lane. Frankenstein, I hope you're here buddy, I love you. Also I forgot to turn rankings on but this was a Ritualist game for reference on how sweaty laning should be.
>>544255158I wouldn't touch anyone who builds splitshot.
this game gets worse the better you get at, accept the retard pill>no fucking box runs>no dudes with 1.8k souls per minute ricing the entire jungle and never fighting anyone>lane goes for like 10 minutes+ and people only do the camps directly next to them>people will actually build stupid shit like punch infernus and first item veil walker bebop>midboss is only done 25+ minutes into the game and half of the time it's a throwgenuinely just make a smurf and play characters you are total garbage at and have fun
>>544254047just double-checked and seems they fixed it at some point, gulag avoided.
>>544256272>just make a smurf
>5pm oce, maybe queues will pop>this is the first gameIvy still feels like a throw pick even if I do love her
>>544257220i don't even do good in my games because i actively don't farm tier 3 camps and pick shit like doorman making a new account isn't just for stomping people
>>544256272casual queue one day vro.
>>544256272>>544257328Stop fuckin making smurf accounts. What the fuck is wrong with this general?
>>544256272The true spirit of a videogameImagine if every time you play it's a completely and absolutely different character fully random, that would be peakAlso there's nothing wrong with punch infernusAlso do not go to this nigger's twitter>>544239664I went for more Deadlock fanartI got "feminists were right all along"
>>544257328it is quite literally just for stomping people>im not trying so It's not smurfing :^)if you have an >50% winrate then clearly you don't need to be trying to stomp shitter game. you're ruining people's games by being an uwu baby about people sweating in your own rankdon't do that shit
so is mina op or garbage
>>544257665>play some shit i barely know how to play>intentionally play suboptimally because box farming and jungle routes are the gayest shit ever>other people in the game have no idea i'm even on a new accounthow is this possibly ruining other peoples games>>544257594when they make the game good or add casual queue I will
>>544256272Thanks, you're the person who keeps making smurfs and randomly calling me out in my lower elos that's making me try harder so I can destroy you on your mainI want to be retarded but I'm motivated, and when I'm motivated my elo goes up
>>544257284Sex with Ivy
>drop from arcanist 1 to alchemist v>play dota turbo instead>lose five in a row playing like a fucking retard getting pudge hooked by an atos pudge faggot over and overi wanna fucking kill myself dude I WANNA FUCKING DIE
>>544257831because if you're decent at the game you don't need to optimize to stomp low rank lobbieswhat about this do you not understand>there's nothing wrong with lebron james playing in highschool basketball if he puts one hand behind his backpost your smurf's games played:games won ratioif you're losing significantly more than you're winning then you get a pass
>>544257801she's good when piloted by someone who knows how to play her because her teleport's third upgrade makes it an insanely short cooldown to the point where she's basically uncatchable unless you build multiple items to shut her down (she also almost always builds debuff remover and eshift which both make her even harder to kill)her laning is also heavily dependent on the skill level of the player using her because her 1 gives a retarded amount of healing if she's allowed to kill lots of creeps with itshe struggles a bit when behind since she needs ult stacks and lots of spirit to deal meaningful damage late game
>>544258020Play Knockdown Bebop and do it to people in this shit game instead
>>544258035i will NEVER box run again
>>544258020>died to atos pudgebuy debuff remover loser
>>544258262>positive ratioget in the slammer
>>544258035nta but why do you care so much about people wanting to play this game without sweating their asses off in the skill rank they sweated their asses off to get intoI get that smurfs going 20/0 farming noobs in low elo isn't fun but sometimes you want to first time a new character without getting raped to death in lane by people in your rank with 900 games on their one trick mina
>>544258502buddy thinks he's the only person in archon to try new characters. lmao. protagonist syndrome
>>544258628I don't have a smurf because I'm shitualist 1 but unless there's a blatantly obvious smurf stomping all over the game I don't think it really mattersif there was a casual queue I'd just play that all the time instead so I don't have to worry about ruining my teammates' ranked climb by first timing vindicta or something
What time do the inhouses usually start I never seem to be around
>try to main Drifter>constantly stressed the fuck out because it feels like I'm on a timer or one fight from falling behind and never returning>don't want to queue it up again>play Billy>chill the entire time, don't give a fuck, run it back infiniteWhy do they give opposite vibes to their personalities
>>544258502because it's hard to smurf in a way that isn't stomping and ruining gamesa good player is not going to be that bad at a new character. 90% of skills translate between most of the cast. at worst they'll be a rank below their actualyou can't make a new account and select one rank below yours. you just get thrown in to stomp total shitters for a handful of games until you get adjusted up, and the system barely cares to place people correctly in the first place so I doubt they have smurf detection to quickly push people up
>>544258893they do actually have some form of detection past basic w/l ratio, I was playing with a friend today at the same rank and he went up an entire division in the same time for me to go up one level in my division
Every shit teammate and horribly unbalanced stomp is worth it just to make a save that was otherwise 100% a death.
>>544258878drifter is probably stressed out all the time i mean he is fully driven by his urges fiending for a hit 24/7
>>544259185cubes saves are pretty sickonce goo boy gets his remodel im gonna pick him up. we need more heroes with utility heavy kits like viscous
>>544259292>playing drifter makes you feel a constant pressure to killludo kino>>544258878just play spirit drifter. it doesn't care much about the stack scaling
>>544259331I like the visible animation skeleton under the goo. Hope the finished model isn't radically different.
>>544259438>just play spirit drifterI do. I play hybrid or pure spirit based on game state. That doesn't mean it's not bottom 3 characters in the game, while probably being the one that falls behind the hardest
>>544259507skill issue.
/d2g/ and /lolg/ are laughing at us again
>>544259456>>544259331>tfw Viscous, Warden and Kelvin all share the same basic animationsOnce you see those details your brain reminds you this is a game in alpha.
>>544259578I'm a lion *rapes you*
>>544258015I'm not kidding eitherShe genuinely feels like a troll pick for me at the moment>rush debuff remover as literal first item because fuck you bebop, grab rusted barrel next>he pivots to gun>build suppressor, knockdown, disarming hex for their entire team comp>my team can't kill anyone so it doesn't matter
>>544259809>m on team>lose
>>544259507>the one that falls behind the hardestif my game is going poorly I switch to a mark build with refresher. since mark scales off hp % it scales with the opponent and you just need a bit of res shred to keep up. his ult is good at all stages of the game and with the t3 upgrade can decide the outcome of a lategame fight, closing out the matchthe spirit build needs tempo on networth more than stacks so it's not much different than any other spirit character>That doesn't mean it's not bottom 3 characters in the gameyeah
>>544259903Oh for sure I'm part of the equationI'm not the only constant though lmaothat haze was this bebop >>544257284I am going to have to start asking people what fucking builds they're intending to go so I can decide whether I need to go gun or not, I expected the fucking viper and mirage to do way more than they did
>>544259809Ivy players can be as shit as they want, I will never be mad at them, and always commend them, especially if they are friendly in chatGod I am sad aren't I Sex with Ivy still
>>544260053you lost because of m being on your team, not despite it
How long until this game gets Aghs Sceptre
short Victor comichttps://bsky.app/profile/ulsae.bsky.social/post/3m44amev6t22f
>>544260361good art but I can't speak korean
>>544260329I'm surprise both Aghs and Power Treads are not in Deadlock.
>>544260217pathetic is more like it, ivyshitters deserve to get murdered
I genuinely hate fighting against bebop as a character so I've been playing as him to learn him more and see what it's like to play as him.How anyone thinks this character is anything less than ridiculously OP is beyond me. Hook even at level 1 is such a good tool for your team it's crazy. Bomb damage and scaling is crazy. Laser is one of the best m1's in the game if not THE best. Tons of HP which can only get better with items. Ridiculous movespeed. A nigger-ult-lazer that lasts insanely long, does tons of damage, slows you down, literal infinite range, he can "fly" in place and use it in mid air. And uppercut completely stops you from moving for a second (which with any coordinated team = death) and makes you take massive bonus damage from the lazer. I mean who the fuck put this character in the game? Can't even say he's "C tier" or some shit since he is a 100% pick in the 'pro' games.
Bebop is bad, but M&K is the worst. The 5 minutes of pauses at the beginning of games are more interactive than a full game against M&K.
both of you need to buy counterspell and fix your skill issue.
>>544261601mandatory hook functionthey know it's the most popular moba design and that everyone wants to play it so they made it fun and rewardingsame reason infernus' kit is so overloaded
No fuck you
>simply blow 3200 souls so you can begin to play the game normally
Is warpstone a decent counter to hooks or are the hitboxes too jank for that?
>>544262068if you can warpstone react to a hook coming at you, you can dodge roll it, it's not that fast and it makes a distinguishable sound.the low IQ counter to getting hooked is to just buy reactive barrier.
grey talon if he 2006
>>544261349That is not a normal response anon. Get help
>>544262514dash doesn't work for shit like hooks, arrows, and heavy melees. don't you dare bullshit me. i've seen this game's netcode in action as i eat 1000 damage despite a talon arrow being 5 meters to the side of me
Why people bitch about M&K so hard? You fags ever played other games? If you can see Mo fat ass running at you with his friend behind he clearly wants to grab you, keep distance and shoot his ass.
>>544259809>She genuinely feels like a troll pick for me at the momentdon't mean to be a dick, but skill issue. She's still insanely good especially going gun/spirit hybrid. Rushing debuff remover on Ivy is bad. You have stone form lol use those souls better. You also got VERY unlucky with that team comp. Pretty much an autolose for you just based on the heroes you got, but still Ivy is still great with gun builds, has insane roam and one of the best farming speeds.
>>544259809oh forgot to add if you're gonna blur names, blur match id top right. Kinda poinless otherwise lol
>>544262821no cc vs huge cclol yeah that guy had no chance
>>544262810it's because he punishes retards that position poorly or get caught.it makes himself not able to move either and makes him an easy focus target with his gigantic hitbox.
>>544262810League of legends players are used to thinking 0.5 seconds of stun is an insanely long time so up to 2.7 seconds without items??? crazy
Why does every character have the same punch animation even if they have melee weapons like Yamato?
>>544262810cuz it's not fun to get warp stone ulted and people bitch when they're not having fun
>>544263626mina steps on my balls
>>544263626there's a couple like bebop/ivy/abrams. I imagine small animation stuff like that is pretty low on the priority list, especially when some characters don't even have finalized designs yet.
Just one day I wish the patch notes would say "Fixed the fucking matchmaking so it isn't garbage"
>>544263969Every single competitive game ever made complains about this. Just get good.
>>544262936I normally do, I don't know how I missed it that time>>544262821Debuff remover was a funny first choice to look back at now that I've eaten dinner, but it does give me the heal and drop the infernus burn, haze fixate stacks, gave me the HP back from siphon bullets etc, but yeah as a first item it was a very "fuck you in particular, bebop" kinda momentum to go withI really should just commit to gun and shove hard. I'm alright in a game of cat and mouse when I need to be>>544263626>bebop>ivy>abrams>mo n krill>dynamo>kelvin (shares with warden)>mirage>paige>billy>mcginnis>victor>minaI think Lash is a right hand punch as well instead of the left hand most use
>>544263626everyone's probably going to have a unique melee animation when the game releases.
Should've leveled ADP
>go on 6 game Drifter loss streak>last 2 games were wins, both 5v6s>my Shiv spent the entire lane ignoring creeps and diving tower despite telling him to pull back so I can gangfuck them with him>he keeps dying while saying some shit like "I always get the last laugh" or "I'mmona stick'em", genuine roleplaying>even when 4 are down, no one comes mid>when we do eventually do mids later in the game, and get them, Infernus spends the entire time farming shit like side lane t3s rather than just getting a tower or grouping>Shiv still roleplaying and talking about "The Detective"There is no a winstreak earlier in the week deserved being sent to this kind of clown purgatory
>>544264272no way a winstreak*
>>544264002deadlock's is worse than those other games
>>544264142Its funny because its true. Actually no, its not funny anymore, delete GT from the game.
>>544263626Because the game revolves around parries and that keeps things consistentThe actual animation is different, the windups are the same
>>544234990She's ESL
Bros I broke some boxes this game and I wonThis correlation means I have to do it again even though it feels icky
>>544264875>I will not do box runs>I will not optimise my farming routes>I will not camp urns and midboss>I will farm enemy heroes>and if i don't get kills I fucking lose
What the FUCK
Why do people play a team based game but do literally everything in their power to NOT be a teammate? Don't defend lane, don't help their partner, don't provide heals if they have it, don't parry an enemy when they could. Don't block any attacks, worse yet actively help the team with their shitty gameplay (McGinnis 3 walling you from your teammates but locking you in with the enemy). Shitty item usage, don't listen to call outs or retreats despite them being the right move (or at the very least, the right move so they don't die). Let the enemy walk all over the map doing anything they want (steal bridge buffs, etc) without even TRYING to stop them.Call me a low ELO shitter, ok, fine. How am I supposed to escape when my teammates force me to lose? How can I improve when I'm already doing my best and everything I can for the team, while my teammates feed the enemy Haze over and over and over and over?Your teammates are just enemies themselves.
Do Doorman players really?https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3592300860
>>544244279>trying to "solve" him>play the same build everygame>always rush backstab(max 2k dmg on scoreboard)>always buy point blank(doesnt work with rend btw)>do shit like rush arctic blast>spend half the game autistically boxingBelieve it or not spamming games without iteration is not how you solve things
>>544265363I just shoot the other players are brawl
>>544251339I play Vyper
>>544266731The three I've seen all run different builds. One is hybrid, one is some homebrew gun with Snatch, one of them just had the build made for him by the Ranger dudeI don't know what streamers you watched but I think only one of them is even running Cold Front
>>544265363words to live by
>>544244279Drifter's ult is omega OP, but that's about all of the value he bringshe's a really shitty Dynamo essentially
How do I dash downwards? I've seen a few people do it to drop instantly but I can't figure it out
>>544268090double tap your crouch key
>>544268120Thanks boss
At what rank do people start going to mid when 2 enemies die without me needing to ping in 6 times while watching them run at a walker and not even get it
>>544268120>150 hours in>only learned this now
>>544268281eternus and even that is not a given
>>544268281What the other reply said
>>544268417>>544268479Bwos every game is hell because my team doesn't know how to survive without rejuv but also doesn't know it exists
>>544268309it's not really all that useful, the most useful use for it i've seen is using it to go down the ziplines holes at mid to the midboss room really quickly because the amount of juke choices you have in that area is stupidly vast.
>>544242887>>544257626>Feminists were right all alongLIKE THEY AREN'T THE TARGET AUDIENCE
>>544267696My hot seeker takes on drifter. You shouldn't actually be roaming that much against good teams. Just split pushing and force them to send 2, that way you are leveraging your 1v1 pressure instead of gambling in the fog of warBackstabber is bait, you dont need the sight or ms you need dmg to actually kill people before they press shiftUnironically shadoweave, one guy I watched compared artic to shadowweave lvl 1 no items and they had the same rend damage. He wrongly concluded(imo) to go arctic, its a purp vs orange so with actual boons its less damage, didnt acount for the massive fire rate buff, didnt even consider the spirit resist vs the out of combat regenThey also didnt really get actives early which is a display imo, if you have a slow start you need actives to offset your dead 3.And the hottest take of all, if you dont want actives the witchmail is unironically good because its only a 1/3 roll to hit what you want
I can't win on Mo and KrillMy team just fucking dies to air before I can jump anyone and my laning partner is afkI play carries and I carry every game but I want Mo as a comfort pick but he's not comfy in shitlow
>>544268627Its good on Vinny to dodge knockdowns
>>544268673I appreciate the self-admitted Seeker
>>544268729you basically have to yell in the microphone who you are jumping to get anyone to pay attention
>>544242887>going to twitterRookie mistake
>>544268729Mo carries hard af in shitlow thobeit. You just cant play as an ultbot
>>544268729just go a retarded damage dealing item build, shitlow doesn't know how to play different or counter build so you can get away with the most retarded build possible because they will never be able to kill you. They will write a reddit post about how your hero is op and needs to be removed etc. only.Shitters here think Mos in high ranks are rushing escalating exposure and scourge like in their games
>>544268729you gotta build like a carry with burrow max + surge of power and such
>>544268818I was front running the whole always posts>and other things seekers believeWhenever you suggest something even tangentially offmeta
>>544268729>>544269094this nigga is right, just build full damage, it heals you anyway with scornid max either 1 or 4, burrow is cool but the sustain from 1 is unmatched and the ult max makes it a huge solo gank toolup to you
>Shill for extra health since forever>dlg calls me shit>now pros are picking it up for valueApologize
>>544264025pocket has a unique melee anim now too don't forget
>get bullied to hell and back in lane to the point I go 0/4 and lose walker by 20>grab an early capacitor and counterspell>pull it all back over time because I am buying time while calico deletes people>>544269770Yeah I just noticed that too, the spin is kinda dorky which is actually fantastic
>>544269691unless it’s a component of something really important I feel like extra health isn’t very useful for laning compared to a lot of other 800 soul picks
>>544269691I agreed with you every time shut up
>>544270159Its for stat checking If you go health vs someone who gets headshot booster and you just stat check them you will win by a large margin. But ypu dont have to get it super early, just picking it up at some point before late game is good
Not really a proper chat meme but please witness my entire team clowning the enemy vindicta.
>>544270867why? Was she rude?
>tfw you really start to actually get a hang of a character you like
>>544270921Pretty much yeah, she was raging at us and her team since bebop kept hooking her and invaliding her flying cheese.I also have zero respect for vindicta players in general but that's besides the point.
>>544270532It’s probably much more useful outside of lane but I don’t think 800 soul items are expected to provide much after that (125 max hp will matter way more in a team fight than 3hp/s, for example)you’re still going to get pretty heavily out-valued if you take extended fights since the only value you get is when you’re topped off, but I assume it’s worth it on characters who can consistently heal themselves like kelvin or maurice&krilliam
>>544271278Mauritius will get more health value out of just buying Mystic Burst thoughbeitsowhatsoeverhenceforth
>>544271278Its 175 now plus the 8% or whatever for investment Its actually worst on mo and krill because its flat hp and his base hp is the highest, meaning its only a +23% increase total, its most effective on mina due to the lowest hp, for her its +28%. The trick is to dont take an extended fight, hold w+m1 the moment you buy it and they are hugging gaurdian
>>544233048I'll deal with the troopers.
>>544270532>>544272240>>544269691Rusted Barrel now gives better value than extra health. I'm a xtra health buyer myself but I'm making the switch.
>>544211504amen
>>544272537Im also rb pilled so no criticism here
>lookup deadlock piss porn>only result is an ivy statue fountainnot sure what i expected but i guess it fits
>>544257831I have 2k hours in deadlock and there's heroes I've never ever played because I just don't like how they lookBut I know the usual builds they have and my map awareness and routes translate to those heroes as well
>>544272896I still have never played Wraith in a pub because the state of that hero and the ego of those playing it over a year ago left that bad a taste in my mouth. Fuck that nigger hero
I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO USE MIC TO GET PEOPLE TO DO THE MOST BASIC FUNDAMENTAL SHIT THEY'VE BEEN DOING FOR 7 RANKSWHYFUCK OFF CUNT
>>544273089Uhm sweaty, it's actually an ascendant ranked game now because your 5 oracle teammates balance out your eternus rank )
I hate anglos and I will grief the moment I hear them talking
>>544273147it's fucked how the MM worksI'm a ritualist shitter and sometimes there's a fucking oracle/phantom in my games
>>544273346Before the badge update I had a week where I was consistently getting put into matches with 5 emissary teammates as an Eternus player. It's beyond fucked
This game aggressively needs a way to tell their players that line souls are bigger than jungle soulsEven I was like that and I needed several videos and watching wiki statcharts to completely convince me that giving 1 melee to a sinner and running back, gives more souls than giving 5Every player that comes from mobas it's like that, and this game needs to forward this information better and clearerOtherwise the game is fucking itselfIt's like giving feetcrit instead of headcrits, anyone that comes from FPS doesn't expect that and expects that aiming to the head does somethingThis game needs to adress this ASAP
>>544273706Just count nigga?
How do i hit people with my balls as seven?
>>544273706>Even I was like thatsame, i just assumed longer to kill = more souls but once i started actually paying attention the difference is huge. you kinda forget you get double souls on troopers (souls on kill and souls on orb)
>>544274127Aim for map geometry not players, like an area denial. Doorways, corners, cover, stuff like that
>>544274127Stun them
>>544274228Its just another failure from soul splitting mechanism. This feature has been a bane from the beginning, I know they dont want the dota style hard supports but its like trying to reinvent the wheelJust use the wheel
I love this setting its like 1950s but without the bad stuff like racism sexism etc.
>>544266249that can't be real
is boundless spirit good or is it wack
Spirit characters for aimlets?
>>544274534it's only okay-ish if you have nothing else to build on a spirit buildNEVER rush it
>>544274534Its good if you have a shit ton of spirit so the +15% matters and if you have good scaling
>>544274618spirit vindictastake em then there's no possible way for you to miss crow and snipe
>>544274736I promise you I will miss. I have spent the past 15 years playing nearly solely turn based games.
>>544274438If this game was made 20 years ago there'd be a klansman character called "The Wizard" and it'd be extreme kino
>>544274438I mean kinda get your point but I can see racism becoming more focused against Ixians since they're literally non-human demon creatures.Your sexism part is valid but then again the entire female cast consists of either superhumans, geniuses or both (ignoring my girl failure vyper)
>>544266249Thats more hours than I have in dota and I played dota since the fucking beta. Holy shit
>>544274618turret miku - actual autoaim
>>544274618most of them? if you like strategy games play mcginnis i guess
>>544274783spirit lash all you have to do is hit 10 consecutive frame perfect edgejumps then you do massive damage barely any aim required
What if your beebop decided to miss every hook on Talon
>>544274438Vindicta and Grey Talon are taking part in the ritual to have their revenge against super racists anonymous>I have some brake lines to cut anyways
>>544274828>tfw no yandere stalker snake that reeks of cheap cigs and booze
>>544274438Mods will fix it, for immersion of course
POV: Your fun license has been revoked.
>>544275147replace Vinny with Kelvin and we are set
>>544260361I'm scared of what Asia will do to this game
>>544275253Kelvin is on our side, but I'm in shitlow, so he is a non-threat to them.
Is there some online guide for counter items? I never know what to build
>>544275548Just learn the other heroes and items better. It's not that complicated you just need to stop and think sometimes.Mobility hero? Slowing hex - KnockdownHealing Hero? Healbane, Toxic BulletsHero relying on purgable buffs? - capacitoretcUnderstand the heroes and countering will come naturally
>>544275548you get used to it with time. Flyers it's knockdown for instance
>be seven>enemy buys capacitornow what?
>>544275806big balls
>>544275147This was awful.
>>544274618turret mcginnisorb sevenstomp dynamo
>>544274971You can predict vindictaBut talon is actually hard as fuck to land because you can dash midair, and a good talong will instadash to anyside on sound cue and you'll never ever ever land a hook
damn it i wanted to play geist
>someone uses their mic>the whole lobby uses their mic after 15 mins of being quietKinda based but also I was salty because a Kelvin stole my (Drifter) kill and said thanksEveryone talking up was the difference between me running it down and trying to win
Does Abrams have the worst ult in the game?
>>544243407Bots are only for getting use to bullet velocity.
>>544276315Honestly it's between him and Haze. Before the recent CD nerf Kelvin dome had a better CD than Haze ultimate. Haze's can at least kill people though
>>544251339torment pulse but if i had to pick one per tier>t1: spirit strike>t2: enduring speed>t4: phantom strike
>>544275806hey you figured out why no one plays seven anymore
>>544276315it's one of the best ults to get the fuck out it literally crosses 10% of the fucking map on little itemsWhich also means you can initiate from a mile behind, but bad abrahams will ult like it's a Dynamo so you "feel" it's badYou are not Dynamo
>>544251339maj leap but I only buy it on one hero anymore (Pocket)been trying out Warden as gun and I don't buy it for him when playing un
>>544243407Practicing against bots is fine, as long as you are aware that the outcome you are getting in bot games is far better than you would get against even bad players.It's still good for practicing hitting combos, getting used to spawn timers and last hitting. The bots are actually not that bad at last hitting, ignoring the fact that they constantly expose themselves to do it and you can often just magdump them to death while they flounder in the open.
>>544251339no strings attachedritelets need not apply
>>544276524>it's one of the best ults to get the fuck out it literally crosses 10% of the fucking map on little items>Which also means you can initiate from a mile behind, but bad abrahams will ult like it's a Dynamo so you "feel" it's badThe ultimate is so slow it's only saving your life if you were going to be able to get away with a warp stone anyways and it's impossible to use to initiate because the enemy can react to it after 2 business days have elapsed
>>544251339Welcome to lane terrorism bitch
ok, listen.If you get 0 kills throughout the whole game, you should uninstall.This game is obviously not for you.
>>544276943show obj dmg
>>544276740It's a decent escape if you can use it to get ontop of a building from street level. But you gotta be in the right spot to do that and be aware of it
Even if its just placebo.
>>544277039>It's a decent escape if you can use it to get ontop of a building from street level.Exactly what a warp stone can do (a must buy on Bluey)You can literally only get good distance with this clunky piece of shit if you ult from a vantage point like the bridges or one of the buildings but even then there's always the coinflip of whether the fucking spell will throw you under the map and you get teleported somewhere random on the map anyways
>>544277039no different than a lash ult>>544277153maybe you are just bad at abrahams lad
>>544276315His ult is good. Not amazing pre-3, but at 3 it's enables Abrams' job as a tank arguably better than any other tank ult. Plus it gives a free heavy
>>544277153Sure, but sometimes you might need warpstone and an ult to escape.I'm not batting for the ult being good, just that it can be used as escape in niche circumstances
>>544276998kill? 0damage? lowestobj dmg? 0Give me a reason why Haze shouldn't just uninstall the game.
>>544276943If your Drifter has the highest assists, the entire team should get banned
>>544277237>uhm ackshully the spell clipping through the map is a skill issue
>>544260361>koreansmaybe eu will have some competition, they liked OW so hopefully this games release takes off there too.
>>544262584This is exactly what I want GT to be.
I GOT SOMETHING FOR ALL OF YA
Game is solely decided by which team has more stuns/disables.
>>544278543then it's a moba.
game needs a teemo/techies
>>544278614please no mines
>>544278614dota 2 doesnt even have a techies anymore if they add one to this game yoshi will find out about it
>>544276315No one else even comes close.
>>544251339>causes poke champs to despair in lane>rewards accuracy and deliberate use>icon looks cool as fuck>makes a projectile green to let your enemy know they're directly contributing to their downfall in lane>completely mogs bandaid cucks and ritelets in terms of hpswhy haven't you taken the resto shot pill, anon?
>>544278543Buy more until you hit the critical mass point where people literally can't get through all their CCs because the silences and cursed fucked them until the end of the fight
>>544276315it's either his or geist's ult but i lean more towards geist'sabrams sometimes hits me with it and does a lot of damage or manages to escape occasionslly, plus it gives him unstoppablebut the worst thing geist does is bait your mouthbreathing teammates that ignore the fact she has ult and is obviously baiting for it while on low health and get picked offit's extremely easy to play around it and i say it as someone who mostly play melee/short range heroes too, 99% it does nothing if you are smart
how do I M&Keven if I keep catching people and killing them, my damage/game is pitifuland before you ask yes I literally have brain damage
>>544279982M&K is not a damage dealer
>>544279982you dont deal damage you hold people and never die
Just had my first experienced with a splitshot-gun Paige. Also she was 4 ranks higher than meLuckily she was on my team because my past 3 games had the ritualists in my alchemist lobbies on the enemy team, but that did not look funThese devs have seen enough people play PoE to know mutli projectile never ends up ethical
>>544280212>disarm or avoid her during the 5 seconds of splitshot>kill her because paige is a 2 stamina squishy that relies on her temporary barrier which she blew to deal more damage
>>544280497Yeah but what about when she shitrolls the lane and gets a million item lead, then just doesn't play like a retardI can only assume she got put against someone my rank who didn't know that she was a shotgun character that kills you in 5 hits after 800 souls
>>544280614any hero with a player 4 ranks higher than you can do this
>>544280706Nah I absolutely shitrolled the past handful of people 4 ranks above me because I'm an ex-pro in other shootersI've never seen someone die that fast except for the past couple Paradoxes abusing the carbine bugs (both of them)
>>544279982Torment pulse
>>544279982You want to combo the main carries and tank stuff
>>544280614Just buy rusted barrel and use it everytime she shields
How do i look at an inhouse's scoreboard?
>>544279828You do realize they can buy the same items right?
>>544278543this but how many retarded hypercarries they have that still are strong early like infernus, mina and victor
Anti-gun items are actually pretty useful against gun characters
>>544281551It's both actually, because retarded hypercarries only need 2-3 seconds of disable do delete someone.
>>544281460Keep a copy of the match ID and use it to view the game stats through the spectate projector in the hideout, or use statlocker
>>544281532They can, but an entire team of silences is better than a team of Dynamo + whatever aoe rape ults you want on topThat's why it's diminishing returns/critical mass. By the 30k mark, very few actual CC abilities that aren't bought should matter. And ultimately, 4 CC vs 0 is a more difficult to overcome gap than 10 CCs vs 6
>>544281686if by anti-gun items you mean curse, phantom strike and juggernaut then maybe
Played my first seven game. Very fun even as an aimlet. Fucked my farm though because I was still in M&K/Kelvin/Abrams brool brain and running across the map constantly for team fights.
>enemy has the Ascendants in my Seeker lobby>they're in my lane>they're on Haze>I'm on Drifter with his silly M1 hitboxesThat's ok I didn't want last hits anyway
i miss the very fast man seven build i miss running at 20m/s without sprinting or temporary buffs
>>544281765The thing is, when both teams buy the same items they will throw them at each wait out it's effects, after that it's skills.
>>544282312Maybe in pisslow lobbies where people don't know priority targets. If your team can't kill people through a million silences and breaks, you either have no M1s so you're fucked regardless or you do have them but deserve to lose
>died from Sticky KeysI thought I turned this shit off
>>544282415I was assuming the m1's were disarmed...
>>544279982stop playing alone, it's a support character not a carrysearch for fights WHERE ALLIES ARE AROUND, not when it's convenient to catch someone by yourselfI can tell you never played dynamoPlay dynamo for 1 match and that will make you a better M&K
>>544282552who in the entirety of humanity ever needed that feature
Do I publish?
>>544282817Michael J Fox
>>544279982Early game you kill via out sustaining them and your 2+1+cold front burst combo. Your 4 does fuck all damage and exists solely to pin them for your allies or for cooldowns to come off. Your 1 should have a few levels as priority and do good damage from quicksilver and mystic burst (your first two items)Late game your burst is mid compared to others but you’re putting out constant hard to avoid damage with 1 and torment pulse (TP is your major powerspike early-mid)You’re not some solo burst god, play around your allies and maybe pick off some squishies caught out/running. Make sure to grab multiple actives mid-late, they’ll do wonders for your damage. Decay, scourge etc.
>No intentionally ugly charactersIts sanitized for tranime audience
>>544282947if you publish and post the code ill give it a go :) i havent played dynamo in ages though
>>544282947>trophy collectorI thought that shit was ASSAlso we need a new thread, niggas.
Halloween update delay because Valve is in talks with a new unaffiliated team and looking to acquire them ala Portal.Deadlock has been scaled down as team members are moving over to this new project bolstering it instead.Good news the new game looks fantastic and is entirely new, bad news I fear for Deadlock's future.
>>544283391Knock yourself out>>544283524Got patched to be good
>>544282947Please publish, my mate is playing dynamo and he needs it.
>>544283419The only part of dynamo that has a high skill ceiling is the blink. The rest of his kit is braindead.>>544283524It’s decent on support/brawl characters that have high kill participation but are spending too much time running between lanes and fights to farm. Kelvin, M&K etc.
>>544282947Its shit, JimBuying greens after you lost lane really grinds my gears. If you bought it before then maybe you wouldnt have lost
>>544283598i think you need to publish before the build ID actually works since i doubt the build ID for everyone else is 2 kek
>>544283682You don't buy them after losing lane you buy them when the lane isn't going well but not yet lost, ie under tower. I geuss I'll elaborate on that.
>>544283598>>544283669HmmmI used to build it on Holliday because I really liked all the statsMaybe it's time to pick it back up
>>544282947Ult build sucks mein negro, one awake enemy with a stun cucks you
>>544283682trophy collector is value on some heros even if lane is lost, like m&k
Is dash-jump always better than dash dash?
>>544283765>>544283598
Sniping and ulting Mina repeatedly as Vinny is pure bliss
>>544283959ty anon, i will report back o7
>>544283959The build theory looks fine.The presentation is cringe
>>544283873Retard.
>>544283873>Ult build sucks mein negro, one awake enemy with a stun cucks youThen there is zero point in playing the character and you should use ring of repick.
>>544281551>Mina>hypercarryshe's useless late game
>>544284065Cope>>544284068His base ult is good enough
>>544284095>she's useless late game...if not ahead.
Shiv 1 at max level should have some sort of extra damage proc. Reach X DoT damage=explode like a non AoE spirit burn. Because is kind of useless outside of early game.
>>544284196>His base ult is good enoughActual retard take.
>>544284228you have to understand that every shiv ability is balanced around the fact that he's essentially fighting against opponents with 25% less hp
>>544284349I accept your concession
>>544283873I literally play dynamo in e6 lobbies and go ulti build. Not a single pub is going to have coordination enough to stun dynamo ulti with any real frequency, not to mention that you just want to use it like a mo and krill ulti that sometimes picks up 2 or even 3 people when they're out of position rather than trying to grab the entire team. Getting refresher means two deaths, two deaths basically means a won game.
>>544282947idk why healbane is so early?
>>544284359I know but I like dots and his feels pointless after lane.
>>544284635NTA but I’ve been grabbing healbane earlier and earlier. Cucks sustain, cucks tanks, heals you after killing, surprisingly good lane item.
>>544282947>>544283682It's very compy to buy greens early game. Spirit shielding gives you the instant health pop to trade against the opponent and stuff like healing rite or other items give you the health regen to invalidate their pokes (when cooldowns will be at their longest). Early game damage items just really aren't that good in lane outside of stuff like mystic shot or cold front
>>544284609>doesnt get stunned in e6I simply dont believe you, this starts happening all the way down in shitlow. Dynamo is my most played by a lot and I wont be convinced to all in an interuptable skill with a 300s cooldown
just had a support mcginnis that did fuck all in a 66 minute game. fucking kill me
I feel like such a scrub playing Geist like a generic spirit caster instead of gun but it’s really fun. Swap her 3 with Shiv's 1 please
>>544284840I'm buying Extra Regen first item on most heroes at this point. You can't really go wrong with green in lane. If you're visiting the shop and you're full health, feel free to buy otherwise and then use your health to apply pressure/ get kills.
>>544211183Retarded list it doesn't even follow its own rules. Paradox has 1 CC skill. Wall doesn't gain hard CC ever and only silences at max rank. Carbine isn't CC it slows time for the person, stuns make you unable to play. So she has 1 ability by your definition. Holliday has 2 displacement 1 escape how is that 3+? Sinclairs ult can steal any ability on the game, he has 1 hard CC one escape that would put him in 2 despite unironically being one of the most dishonest characters in the game. Drifter literally has nothing you meantioned. He's an all in character with less outs than the "honest" section. Miku has 1 CC ability and no escape tools. You're literally retarded especially if you're classifying characters with slows as "heavy cc"
>>544285153you got way more problems if your games are lasting 66 minutes.
>>544286251well we only had haze as our tower pusher and he kept dying trying to solo split push wasting our rejuv twice.
>>544286392what did you play
>>544286609Dynamo
>>544286643rip
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>>544287223>>544287250Which one boys
>>544287223>>544287250How tf does this happen 6 seconds apart when the thread has been page 10 for hours
>>544283959Just played one, build felt good but they bought silence wave and i bought refresher instead of unstoppable and it kinda fucked me but thats on me. ill probably play this again i feel like it could have been huge if i had a bit more dyna experience. didnt help my team were screaming at eachother before we even got to lane kek. also why healbane so early? i got trophy collector before healbane since we won lane and i felt like i didnt feel like i needed the healing reduction yet
>>544274438I swear I've seen a post like this before, another forced ritualpost?
>>544251339when this thing gets going... zamn...
>>544274828>the entire female cast consists of either superhumans, geniuses or bothThis isn't overwatch tho? Most heroes aren't too super-y, if anything GT's backstory claims magic abilities are nothing to write home about and multiple in-game posters are talking about magic weaponry, services, everyday items etc. Sure there are multiple exceptional people, but most male or female characters aren't even the biggest fishes in their own small ponds.
