Joyful Purging Edition>PTS 11.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/287-pts-patch-notes-11-0?>Update 10.2 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/272-hotfix-10-2-patch-notes>September Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/278-september-community-update>Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks (WIP):https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinksPreviously on the Battle-barge: >>543944701
>>544254998Shop this into a tinder bio please
>boot up live version to do weeklies>realize I won't have access to patch 11 block axe or heroic bolt sniper>the game feels hollow and empty, without joy
So what are those blue triangle currency things?Havent found how/where to spend those yet
So, I get that Assault isn't as good as say, Vanguard (when played well), but why exactly is he considered shit? I tried to run the jet pack dodge build they have in the perks on a solo Ruthless run and it's not bad. Kinda cool actually, but only because the jump pack dodge animation is cooler than the regular one. I don't see a reason to use it.
rate my raptor chud pls>>544255460go to the armouring hall, turn around and talk to the mechanicus to your left when you are walking towards the exit
>>544255816Thanks brother
>>544255450They're for certain cosmetics. I want the damn Mk7 helmet and it costs those
Cant wait for the heroic fist
>>544255460Shit perks, bugged perks (charge dmg), no survivability perks.
>Bulwark took a stim that could have saved my life
>>544255816That shade of blue for the eye lenses sucks. Doesn't fit the idea of the Raptors. Red, orange, or black.
How do I play Block weapons? With Fencing I just parry and gun strike but I can't parry with Block
>Friendly Fire Stratagem
>>544257803>friendly fire>and explosions on headshotsWelp all melee team it fucking is then
>>544257646i was trying to make him look like a dudebro call of duty operator with badass sunglasses
>>544257706Instead of parry->gunstrike, it's parry->extra melee damage or parry->parry->extra melee damage. I put block on Assault and Bulwark, with Tactical and Sniper getting fencing and Vanguard getting balanced
>>544258756How do you deal with how slow they are?
>>544259246Shoot them before I get close enough to melee them, and try to avoid pulling large blobs without a second person to absorb some of the agro
>>544255816Based Raptor Chad. >>544257646I go with either Red/White/Black. Even Green can sometimes look nice. The whole idea with raptors is that they'll adapt to the environment they're operating in. So technically every lens or paint scheme is an alternative.
>>544257706>How do I play Block weapons?You don't, you stick with Fencing or Balanced.
>>544257803>Suspicious Behavior>Friendly fireAaaalllriiiight, partnerrrrr. Keep on rollin' baby! You know what time it is....
>tfw you can already envisage creating sweet combat montages with Techmarine, mulching through crowds with your omnissian axe, your rear gun covering your back, while 3:44 of https://youtu.be/asr6_eNCuoU?si=i9TDqlVPVRTAh4KJ&t=224 drops
>>544261440And people have the audacity to say the Iron Hands aren't cool. Like, how much of a faggot do you have to be to not think cyborg Space Marines aren't fucking awesome?
>>544261440techmarine release will be such a shitshow, everyone will want to play him and thus coop lobbies will be impossible
>>544261570The problem is GW does borderline nothing with them, and because of their hardy nature, they're basically the Vegeta of 40K. More often than not, whenever they show up, they're used as a beat stick to set the stakes or show how dangerous the enemy of the year is, because they just brush off death with new implants. The Iron Hands themselves lose very little upon getting a celestial ass whooping, so narratively they're stuck in a stagnant loop.
>>544261570>Techmarine is somehow synonymous with Iron HandsYeah, no. Every chapter has a designated techmarine and while I don't hate IH, they're bland as hell. To the point their successors are more prominent in the 40k zeitgeist. Maybe if GW will do something with them that'll put them on the map we will be able to have this conversation once again.
>>544261674A normal dev team would've lifted class restriction a long time ago, especially with such a major addition to a game. It's Saber though so we can (and should) expect nothing and we'll still be disappointed
>>544261830Crazy how the Sons of Medusa and Steel Confessors are both infinitely more interesting than their own origin Chapter
>>544261830>Techmarine is somehow synonymous with Iron HandsUh, damn straight. They're the most tech oriented Chapter with the most tech oriented successors. Sure, every Chapter has Techmarines, but saying the Iron Hands wouldn't be the poster boy for them is like saying the Salamanders wouldn't be the poster boy for Master Crafted war gear or the Gray Knights aren't the premier Librarian Chapter. The only successor that is honestly more interesting than the Iron Hands is the Red Talons. The Sons of Medusa are interesting because they're related to the schism, not because they themselves have anything going for them. The Steel Confessors feel redundant as the Voice of Mars reveals the Iron Hands are already being puppetted by the Mechanicus through their seat in the Iron Council as well as their fabrication of Ferrus Manus' life. The fuck is even the point of them?
>>544262371I think techmarines are more interesting when they're in other Chapters, because most of them are treat like shit despite how necessary they are to the war effort. Their dual loyalties to their brothers and the Mechanicus leads to a lot of interesting stories of paranoia and lack of trust between the guy who maintains the guns and the people who wield them.If Saber had any sense, the Ops team would feel pretty wary around the new guy, and it'd be reflected in the dialogue, considering the entire context of the story is the Mechanicus were screwing around with shit they really shouldn't have and it lead to Chaos faggotry escaping.
Is the new strat worth beating? It looks impossible and there's no point playing any further until the new weapons arrive to drain my 1000 accolades.
>>544261440>fugly aesthetics>mutilated>color scheme already taken by the much cooler Raven Guard>primarch died like a bitchThese literal whos should have defected to chaos and loyalists should have kept the cool as fuck Iron Warriors.
>load into Substantial Decapitation>2 teammates have mortal wounds before we even reached the first geneseed spawn location
Jesus christ some people are dumber than bots. Idiots just stand there staring at Terminators just waiting to be executed while I'm fighting the rest. And another with no health remaining charging straight into the heldrake's fire breath. Do people play with no audio at all or just not care?
>>544262705I think the Ultramarines are too sensible to have any suspicions towards Techmarines. The ones who are warry of them are Chapters with secrets to hide.
So yeah, Vanguard's non execute kick got buffed to retard levels.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yed50S_wPxs
>Bots won't have class perksbut why
>>544265075Fuck you that's why
imagine the seething and autistic screeching of nerds when you don't paint your engineer's doll red
>>544265762I hope you've imagined me well. I already seethe whenever I see dumb fucks with improper heraldry or shit they threw on because they think it "looks cool". I'm actively quitting and blocking anyone who doesn't have at least one red pauldron on their Techmarine.
>>544265864>blockingbetter save your slots, player killing is coming
>>544265075Devs are hard at work to bring you all the latest cosmetics content bundled with clipping features. You can't expect them to do extra overtime for such bleeding edge functionality!
>>544265864>>544265762How will anyone play Techmarine when servers already omit same classes?Everyone will be running solo until people max out the class in a week or two.
>>544266071Unload your bolt carbine into your bulwark's shield for free ability chage.
>>544265864>some mentally handicapped autistic incel seething in front of his monitor because a random dude didn't use the children's rulebook-approved fantasy itemlmao
>>544266253A theory I saw is those new faces they're adding, which are all new and unique, none of them resemble the existing characters, are going to come with new dialogue, and with the introduction of these heads and voices, you can attach them to any class you want, and the class limit will be removed.
>>544266726>which are all new and uniquewell...>none of them resemble the existing characters...that's not...>are going to come with new dialogueyou got me, have a you
>>544266941>A theory I sawAlso, they are new faces. Entirely new.
>>544266941Oh Christ it's this fucking retard again. You did this several threads ago with the exact same image quite literally when someone put forward an idea they saw elsewhere, explicitly stating it was something they heard.If I explained to you some people think the Earth is flat, you'd get mad at me and accuse me of thinking this. That's your mindset.
>devourer warrior shows up out of nowhere and shotguns me, killing the chosen one instantlyThese fucking niggers are more dangerous than actual melee warriors up close.
>>544267173For anybody who believes otherwise. The upcoming faces are all new head sculpts, all of them belonging to different Chapters.>Black Templars>Space Wolves>Blood Angels>White Scars
>>544267942>Space Wolves, the viking themed chapter, get repped by George FloydI love DEI
>>544267942okay, now you are just disingenious skipping old decimus and mascara scipius and vespasius. Also it's funny how you were putting this so hastily that you even aligned the WE WUZ decimus and pre-op Straban under their original faces.
>>544267942Let's not forget that much earlier there was another set of new partially modified heads for the existing ones.
>>544268339>under>*over
I love trying to do the hard weekly and being constantly matched with absolute retards who are not only not prestige IV but also low level. They are like insects hitting a lightbulb repeatedly and not understanding why they cannot reach the light
>>544268339You are actually face blind. Also we know what Straban looks like unmasked, and he's the definition of a chisel-jawed gigachad. He's not a fat head like the example above him, as seen here >>544268449The Blood Angels head is way more angry brow than Scipius is. And Scipius has paper thin lips, the BA head doesn't.
>>544268449Those don't look new or modified in any way apart from the Heavy not having the mask.
>>544268717>Decimus and Scipius having beards>Unmasked Straban>don't look modified>come on now.jpgLike I said "partially". By "new" I meant a new set of heads. Which actually it is. I treat current ones as one set. If you modify even one out of six of heads in a set it will still count as new (or different at least). Even if other 5 are unchanged.
>>544267942Y'know I thought it was just Decimus but having a closer look now I can see that really is an entirely new face sculpt. They really made an entirely new nog noggin with the specific intention of making him a Space Wolf. For all their incompetencies and inexplicable gameplay decisions they couldn't have at least been the unapologetically racist Russians progressives like to stereotype them as. They actually tried to boycott the fucking game back when it released.>>544268449I always knew Straban was mewing underneath that mask.
>>544268717Do you suffer from optical interference, Brother? Consult the Apothecary.
>>544269069Decimus and Scipius have beards currently. They look bigger in your picture only because that is how alpha transparency works. Have you ever looked at these in modeling software? That is what they look like right now.>I treat current ones as one set. If you modify even one out of six of heads in a set it will still count as new (or different at least). Even if other 5 are unchanged.Oh wow, that sure is a positive outlook, anon! I guess the Black Templars had their own armor set even before the champion came out. And the Brazen Consuls have their own set as well. Very nice.
>>544266071Coming? We are already here. I am already here. I was in position before you were. We have stood side by side with you, with each other, never knowing kindred souls were so near. Many of us have reason for what I will do, for some, it is personal, for others it is the only natural thing to do. After all, where better to place a knife than the back that's been so tantalizingly begging for it? But perhaps I will strike for the pure thrill of the Chaos? After all, it does not matter from whence the blood flows. Are we doing it for pleasure? Is there a larger plan at work? Am I a singular actor? Perhaps this is a stand alone complex? The time will be upon you.
>>544255460Everything is relative, combined with the game being beatable with a rusty block/fencing spoon for an experienced player. He's good enough to play in the highest difficulties if you've got the chops because he can be equipped with a melee weapon and a pistol and that's all you need. It's just that every other class can do some absolute bullshit stuff comparatively. If he had some stuff like jet pack dashes being his default dodge and being free he could be a lot more valuable. Then he would be able to refund his jump pack with a dodge and keep slamming, and be a lot more mobile at all times. Saber just refuses to give him something like that though, instead opting for small numbers buffs to low pickrate perks that compete with fundamental must-take perks in the same slot.
Don't do this.
>>544267942See, I know it's pure hopium, but new head sculpts complete with new voices, and then splitting the heads/characters from the classes would actually fit hard under the "think we said we'd never do" in regards to customization.>Now have 10 personalities to choose from for each class>Multiple of the same class can now be chosen because it's no longer Straban + Straban + Straban, it'd be Straban + Blood Angel Heavy + Black Templar Heavy.
>>544270327>Have you ever looked at these in modeling software? That is what they look like right now.I haven't actually, thanks for pointing it out. I had the image saved from before. Though I wouldn't mind if Saber gave current heads one extra variant.>Oh wow, that sure is a positive outlook, anon!Thanks! You can't be a Lamenter all the time. No need to be combative though, Brother. I never said those were brand new (as in completely different), but logically speaking what you and I posted ain't exactly wrong. You can count those heads/successors as different sets, even if it's bullshit because those successor packs usually give decals and colors once you unlock them. I agree with you.
>>544270828I was thinking about how much effort it'd be for them to record entirely new banter lines for every possible character combination but then I realised nobody would give a shit if they didn't bother, especially if it meant class restrictions got removed.
>>544261570few understand out greatness brother. >>544261674just play solo nigga
>>544270213It's very clear there was a diversity quota in place when the game came out. For every playable white you must have a playable black and a playable asian. Other races can piss right off.Wouldn't be surprised if they'd try to stick to this with the face updates as well. I'm expecting black Imperial Fist and asian Dark Angel.
>>544271713The thing about voice acting is it can be done over an extensive period of time and sat on until it's needed. I wouldn't be surprised if all of the dialogue for Techmarine was finished like 3-4 months ago.
Hello Brothers, I'm reposting the dialogues from operation, only this time Vox Liberatis properly shows Vox Liberatis dialogues:>Infernohttps://i.imgur.com/Jhxp8Dl.png>Decapitationhttps://i.imgur.com/mVw2ASz.png>Vox Liberatishttps://i.imgur.com/c2hqkAx.png>Reliquaryhttps://i.imgur.com/1kldpiU.png>Fall of Atreushttps://i.imgur.com/1IGnAkV.png>Ballistic Enginehttps://i.imgur.com/ciSmrro.png>Terminationhttps://i.imgur.com/Uhgn13o.png>Obeliskhttps://i.imgur.com/cUrtmn2.png >Exfiltrationhttps://i.imgur.com/84g5Bps.png>Vortexhttps://i.imgur.com/FMsXH6i.png>Reclamationhttps://i.imgur.com/AthniPy.pngAnd as an apology for my previous error, here are banter lines I pulled from the files:>Banterhttps://i.imgur.com/6PGi7gx.pngEnjoy!
What is the saddest reality of this game?
>>544274080Saber doesn't use their own forum for feedback, they use Reddit, and Reddit has the most dogshit yes-man attitude to everything Saber does. They also give out some of the most retarded advice I have ever seen in regards to perk and weapon suggestions to newbies. I've seen niggers on there insist plasma weapons are bad, that the Auto Bolter is "perfectly okay," that the Power Fist isn't worth using etc.I will openly admit I occasionally post on the Space Marine subreddit, but it's only in the hopes any of my feedback trickles through into Saber's lap.
>>544274590Go back
>>544274679My utilitarian use of Reddit should not be mistaken for using it as a way to interact with the retarded in a willing manner.
>>544256647why its fucking ass.
>>544259246you always have a attack that is fast enough to hyperarmor through a enemy attacking you, then the aoe explosion stuns them and you can follow up. some weapons are trickier then others. with block chainsword you can cancel the charge-up (its a perk) into a light and then skip into shoulderbash. with plasma you have lights that are fast enough and powerrake will also benefit from adrenaline. with thammer you will either have to running attack if you need space fast (the heavy after light/running attack is too slow to benefit from adrenaline), or you charge up aftershock.with fist running attack -> uncharged heavy to get space, charge if you can get it through.
>>544264868>after a ranged kill of majoris+that condition is utter dogshit
>>544275672Not really? Every fight in Absolute spawns like 12 of them.
>>544275780having to kill them with a ranged weapon is still ass. i hate perks that differentiate between killing in melee/execute/gunstrike/ranged. and ranged kill is the worst one.i´m not saying its bad. thats a lot of damage, but the condition is still absolute ass.
>>544274080It needs 10 more missions
>>544276420I don't even know how to point or do meme gestures
>>544254998>Sweet Baby Inc Marine 2, has a generalMind boggling.
>>544276754>Direction brainlet
>dude taking stimms even though they don't have Great Responsibilitywhat is genuinely wrong with this playerbase man
>>544273118>straban might be a death worlderthat'd be interesting
>MASSIVE WAVE INCOMING>in a shit position>team doesn't move on the the next area>dieWhy the fuck are people retarded?
>>544277010Yeah I had a P4 25 Vanguard do that too. It's actually wild.
>>544274080The signature weapon of this game's namesake feels underpowered. There is a serious problem when the puny bolter made for weak mortals in Darktide feels 10 times more powerful and satisfying to use than the blessed relic specially made to be wielded by 8ft tall demigods who have been genetically engineered specifically for war.>>544274590>Reddit has the most dogshit yes-man attitude to everything Saber doesThis phenomenon permeates throughout the entire fucking industry at this point. Wherever there's an incompetent developer making inexplicable design decisions and absolutely neglecting every opportunity to garner goodwill with their fanbase by just giving them what they want, there will be a gaggle of shit-eating retards ready and waiting to jump down your throat the moment you dare state the game you all like and, most importantly, spent money on, should be better.>>544274679>gatekeeping 4chan in current year +10This general is literally the only thing I use this website for at the moment, and once my interest in SM2 wanes again I won't use it at all. There are better websites for having quality discussion without having to walk on eggshells lest you get banned for having an unfashionable opinion on something if the conversation ever veers towards certain subjects (which isn't even a guarantee here anymore).
>>544278249Go back
>>544255460The class does damage the problem is that he doesn't bring as much value as other classes. Bulwark does as much damage if not more than assault while being infinitely more useful. Just look at the difference in the added mechanics for them, a dash that does nothing for assault while consuming your ability vs a spamable dash that staggers everything and doesnt cost anything.
>>544274080its clear they had no post launch plan for the game and were blind sided when it did really well.Good examples of this are them flip flopping on customisation. The new class coming a year plus after launch and them saying they wanted to add apothecary and then changing course
>>544279329>Bulwark does as much damage if not more than assaultabsolutely not. assault can 1shot extremis and remove 50-60% bosshp on absolute with block plasmasword. also generally oneshots majoris, up to 4-5, realistically 1-2 every ~35seconds. in the damage department assault is fine. the complete lack of heal & bootleg defensive mechanisms are the issues of the class.i´m not arguing that assault is fine btw, since this general loves hyperbolic shtiflinging. assault is clearly the weakest class, but he is not THAT bad. he really just needs a little love here and there.
>>544277781>vanguardIt's their job to be worthless and use up resources that others use better.
>>544280119Bulwark absolutely does do more damage. The only way assault is hitting that kind of damage is with precision strike which kills your horde clear immensely. Anything that class can do is done better by bulwark while also being one of the tankiest classes in the game and not caring about enraged devourers or snipers.
>>544280643why the fuck would anyone need hordeclear
>>544273118>banterI keep wondering how the fuck to trigger mission specific banter. Do I really need to start a new game to get that single player progression reset for the squad to talk about Titus or the planet they're on?Thank you for the bonus
>>544281160?Zealous blow is the only god perk in that column and with precision strike you wont always get it recharged because of the radius decrease plus you also lose the ability to hit thropes with it unless they're sitting super low on the ground. If you can't do assault level damage with bulwark then you're obviously playing him wrong.
>>544281498its pretty easy to prove. i´ll be waiting for a video of bulwark removing over 50% of bosshp in max 5seconds
The ultimate redpill in this game is that if you're not playing Ultramarines, your cosmetics are kneecapped hard. So the best thing you can do is make the best looking blueberries possible.
>>544273118>>544254998breadmaker, pls add to the op thx
>>544263874Every chapter has secrets they won't share with their techmarines save for maybe some of the Iron Hands successors.Techmarines are their brothers, but they aren't the same when compared to a line astartes specifically because of their dual loyalties. Even to "sensible" chapters, techmarines are, at best, the black sheep of the family.
>>544276420I wonder if this is a reference to Valdor doing that shit to a bunch of raiders?
>>544278249>getting banned for having an opinion on 4chanNigga shut the fuck up.
>>544276754wasnt the sbi writer fired early on
>>544279329>Bulwark does as much damage or more than AssaultBro, fucking HOW???? I feel constantly gimped as Bulwark. I have no idea how people make it busted. All you have is your melee and the insta kill for Majoris and Extremis on block/parry. I have no idea how to get the weapons to work for me like that even though I feel like I'm playing like a demon. Assault basically has a pocket grenade in the form of slam attacks, and if you're good with making sure it kills a lot, you can have a theoretical infinite supply of them. There's no way in Hell a Bulwark could do what an Assault could damage wise.
Throwing my guy to the Dude WallBrother Auriel, 1st Company - Blood Ravens
I just Power Whirl + Intimidating Aura Parry and that usually fucks things up pretty good.I can safely approach and block enraged devourer/venom cannon shots, terminator soulreapers, carnifex spines, and zoan orbs with my shield while I do it.
>>544283271power fist is overpowered, if you can stomach it (i can´t, just fucking hate the weapon)bulwark has constant hyperarmor with armored advance, wich elovates fist since you can charge through a lot of bulshit without getting staggered by small hits. you also have the aoe on block wich removes the big disadvantage of the fist, wich is crowds. assault theoretically deals more damage with the fist, since he can skill overall more %damage but bulwark simply covers the two weaknesses of the fist while having the 20% increased damage to charged attacks, wich hits the 1shot breakpoint vs majoris.but assault deals much more damage overall. also having acces to burst damage is huge. just removing a threat as soon as it shows up is something no class can do as realiably vs everything like assault can.
>>544283271If you're running intimidating aura thats probably why. Run the perks that increase melee damage when you shield bash/rush and any block weapon. You will delete just about anything especially with adrenaline stacks.
Devs said that the puny assault dash attack isn't final.At least they're not completely blind
>>544284008>Devs said that the puny assault dash attack isn't final.People have rightfully pointed out that the thing could nuke a single Majoris, even an Extremis, into the 4th dimension. It's still not worth it. It's competing with ground pound, which does more for the same amount of ability charge.
bulwark should get a one handed thunder hammer
>>544284178Just a simple overhead-overhead-overhead bonking combos would be neat instead of twirling flippy power axe stuff, which was in SM1 too to be fair.
>>544255460>ruthless
>>544281918Sure thing. I'll make a pastebin.
>>544255460No survivability when the other two melee classes have significantly more reliable means of defending themselves, or flat out heal themselves.
>>544285646And now that bulwark has storm rush, also has more mobility and damage than assault. Soon the heroic thunder hammer (used to be assault exclusive) will also be better on bulwark than assault by a mile.
>>544276420
>>544285083Ruthless is a good baseline for how things will work in Absolute without having to crush your nuts. It's also fun, better than crushing your nuts in Absolute.
>>544286283>Ruthless is a good baseline for how things will work in Absolute without having to crush your nuts.Not since the HP value changes it's not.
>>544286283Based chill anon having fun
>>544286786>Jump pack dash attack isn't finalWhy even fucking include it in the state it's in if it isn't representative of what they apparently intended? Nah, this is an "oh shit they think its garbage, quick, pretend it's in the alpha stages" levels of response.
>>544286583Mmmm, pretty sure that's a lie.
>>544255460>>544285646This is the correct answer. Assault is a living bomb. You can wipe pack after pack by resetting jump pack, and nuke Majoris/Extremis/Bosses. He's extremely fun for doing fuckyuge burst damage.But if you make a single mistake or get into a single unfavorable fight (extremely common as a class whose entire thing is jumping into enemy swarms) you will likely die or lose 90% of your HP to a single ranged enemy.
>>544286786Wow, they really must've gotten ass whoopin' from the feedback to initiate that kind of response.
>>544286283>less spawns>less damage>no double boss spawns>no extremis wave spawns>stims heal more>no enrageAre you sure about that.
>>544287437I can tell you now, enemy HP is different between Ruthless and Absolute. I know because my friends never go above Ruthless, while I play solo Absolute. Devs state otherwise, but there's a noticeable difference in the amount of shots required to get kills.
>>544287528I have seen exactly zero good responses to the assault "feature". Nothing on reddit, nothing on their forums, youtube, here, etc. Every single person thinks it's fucking trash and outright insulting considering the heroic hammer and pfist and especially since this new feature is following up the giga strong new feature that bulwark got.
>>544287297because there was not enough backlash last time they put a broken assault perk in an update. they basically conditioned us to be glad they did anything to assault at all
>>544287297It's the PTS. Public TEST server.
what was the cap on accolades again? 1 or 2k?
>>544286786thats nicewhen are the heroic weapons getting buffed?
>>544288226Except what we're "testing" in this instance is half functional (no animations, devs admitted those parts aren't done on the launch of the PTS) and now they're pushing that the damage isn't close to final either.So again, what is there to test?
>>5442882391k
How's the Heroic Heavy Bolter?
>>544274679Nigger it's 2025, let's not pretend you're more gay for using reddit than actively avoiding it
>>544288829Pretty much a straight upgrade.>No wind-up>Almost never overheats in a fat krumping because of all the parrying
>>544283359Received.
>>544287569Yes, very much so. If I'm one tapping Majoris with a charged heavy power fist on Ruthless, the same applies to Absolute. If I have fast ttk with a build on Ruthless, the same applies to Absolute. >>544287650Your friends playing on a lower difficulty is because there's more enemy spam and they hit harder, not because they eat more headshots, which they don't. I'm willing to bet you're just missing shots or not accounting for the Majoris being enraged.
>>544289251Mm, no.My Las Sniper on Ruthless, with no cloak boost, puts a non-enraged Majoris into execute in one shot.On Absolute, it takes two, always. I need the cloak boost to make it one shot.
why don't they just make assault function like the campaign
>>544289214How are the stats compared to the accuracy Heavy Bolter?
>>544288387they arent>>544289627because saber doesnt play the game
>>544289627A complete VTOL jump from the campaign has the good chance to completely fuck progression.
>>544289627Operations maps are horizontal, not vertical unlike jump pack maps in the campaignAssault should get 3 jump charges though, 4 with a prestige perk
>>544289664
>>544290056I really like the Heavy bolter but it's simply unusable with the ammo eco.
>>544290527Play Absolute and it's not a problem, you get free resupplies every 3-4 minutes.
>>544290679I do, but that simply doesn't regen enough ammo considering you need like 10-20% per majoris, chaos withstanding. Maybe the combination of fencing + gunstrikes would help it.
>>544290527What? The Heavy bolter is the only Heavy gun that will never run out of ammo.Even the Multimelta with specific perks can and will run out of ammo but not the Heavy bolter.
>>544291021>I do, but that simply doesn't regen enough ammo considering you need like 10-20% per majorisEh? It's definitely not that much for headshots. It's like 15-20 shots. That's 3-5%% of your ammo.
I know reddit is all about the Salamanders but what's 4chan's favorite loyalist first founding chapter?
>great responsibility Oh cool, I guess nobody will do the weekly then
>>544292682The Raven Guard are the only 1st Founding I really like. Just a shame they aren't as fleshed out as they could be.
>>544292994>Solo Strat with bots>Literally easier than Solo Absolute because bots don't transfer damage and you have 200% HP
>>544293140I wasn't thinking of that, that's a good idea
Facilito
>>5442926824chan doesn't have a favorite loyalist FF because 90% of 4chan fans are Dawn of War secondaries.on /tg/ it was imp fists
>>544292682Ultramarines. Guilliman is the Peoples' Primarch.
Think Saber are smart enough to give the Raven Guard Assault champ cloak to Sniper as a bonus? In the same Assault is getting a Blood Angel jump pack to coincide with the BA champ?
>>544293441I guess 4chan is kind of based after all.
>>544293241I'm capped out on accolades and have all weapons except the gladius so thankfully I dont have to do any stratagems until the update.
how do I agree to a kick vote on PC? i was asked to vote but couldn't find the button to agree
>>544274679Kek
>>544293949it's crazy how Space Wolves are so popular. do people really like the barbarian wolfy viking aesthetics that much?
>>544276420>>544286176
>>544292682Here's another graph on Chapters' popularity from this year. Pretty interesting optics.>inb4 it's from reddit
>>544294580>the big 12 Interesting to see such a lineup. Funny how Black Templars are higher than IFs.>>544294424I guess the influence of all those viking-type shows in the recent years creates an echo.
>>544294580To be clear, it's well known the Blood Angels are that high because scrubs confuse them with Blood Ravens.
now that i think about it, putting on a jump pack and dive-bombing into the middle of 5000 hostile aliens/heretics might not be the most sound tactics
>>544295789Go away Leandros.
>>544295789Shock units are only effective when they have backup shooters to cover them when they blow through the enemy line.Unfortunately in Operations, your two cover units are either retarded or getting swarmed by Warriors and can't cover you effectively
>>544295294Not true, there are a ton of Blood Angels fans and even newfags don't mix them with Blood Ravens.Only millennial boomers run Blood Ravens, zoomers run Raptors and other cringe Majorkill approved literal who chapter.
>>544292682>ultramarinesused to hate them, they are kinda alright actually>blood angelsmega gay. i like sanguinus but he is also very obviously the betest primarch ever simply because you are supposed to be sad that he is dead. red thirst? gay. black rage? cringe. artistry to distract from their gay & cringe flaws? gay & cringe.>ravenguardpretty boring. stealth specialists in 1ton of powerarmor is preyy dumb. they also have the same issue like the iron hands where their primarch is called raven raven and uses the wings of the raven and the ravenclaws and whatnot. i dont mind them, thats not a compliment.>space wolvesmega ass. worst chapter by far. the druk meme sucks, the wolf focus sucks & they are all retarded. the whole rune-stick of them is just frustrating. >dark angelsthe lion is a cunt and the setting is better for it. i like their paranoia theme. i like that they put the thunderwarriors down & i like that they are high and mighty because they are le first legion. twats done right.>salamanderslame & boring. the colorscheme is also really bad. the only legion i like less then the salamanders is the space wolves. >imperial fistsremarkable because they genuinely think they are the greatest chapter despite constantly getting nearly/completely wiped out.>white scarsi like them, but i dont love them either>iron handsiron hand with the iron hands and his iron hands traveling in the iron hand replacing their normal hands with iron hands are pretty based ngl.TLDR: overall the first founding loyalists are pretty boring.
>>544295789It's better than walking straight at them, and even that's not a bad tactic.https://youtu.be/ncauRK9f75Q?si=PHz4WSiTCuFr94oH
>>544295154BTs are more of a first founding chapter than IFs and are treated as such by GW. Perhaps if fists were actually interesting or had any character more people would run them.All of the IF love comes from their HH portrayal, where they haven't yet segmented into other chapters, leaving the IFs with no personality left.
>>544295789>>544296568It's truly a special feeling when you jump at a horde of warriors/spawn and the tactical you're with drops the auspex to fucking annihilate the horde within 2-3 AOE attacks.Back during Weekly Hard Vox Lib we managed to fucking erase a squad of Terminators in the same way when we turned a corner after the penultimate elevator.
>>544296652>blood angels>vampires>melee masters>great artists>prone to berserker rage>prone to looking like gigachads>gay and cringe somehowStopped reading there.
>>544296652>>ravenguard>pretty boring. stealth specialists in 1ton of powerarmor is preyy dumb.>tanks can't be stealthy>jets can't be stealthy
>hard stratagem with people>a few enemies, nothing major>hard stratagem solo>3 extremis spawns in a row before I've even reached the base checkpointThe game punishes solo play and you cannot convince me otherwise. I've noticed the same thing happen in the PTS. If you're solo the game spawns way more enemies.
>>544298000the duality of man
>>544298000Even useless teammates performance wise can have game altering team perks. Bots still don't have those do they?
>>544292682Liking the Salamanders is not reddit and I will not give up my position on that.
>>544298204It's not the perks. It's simply more spawns. I got 3 extremis in a row.
>>544292682The Iron Hands.
>>544296997why the fuck are they so slow
>>544298668show hand
>>544298204>Even useless teammates performance wise can have game altering team perksmeanwhile my teammates:>melee champion vanguard>aligned aim tac>ammo heavymyself i recently forgot to change the extra gunstrike damage perk for a no-gunstrike mission
>>544292682I usually go with Grey Knights, but out of all FF chapters I prefer Ultramarines. They're good and I like Guilliman.
>>544299418post models
>>544296997wow plowing through a bunch of naked dudes in impenetrable power armours is so badass....>motherfucker got winded after 30 seconds of breezy combat toocome on now
>>544292682Blood Angels>best primarch>superlative warriors>great artists>kind to their follow men>huge internal struggle>berserker rageRaven Guards>reasonable marines>pretty kind to the common folks too>sneak beakies
>Guilliman knelt to Grimnargod i hate the fucking yiffs so much, why do they always get special treatment? they have the largest amount of datasheets among the divergent chapters too
>>544299985Give me few hours to get back home Brother and I will post what I'm working on now, with pleasure.
>>544292682I have a soft spot for Ultramarines because my entry into the series was the Uriel Ventris books back when shitting on Matt Ward was actually relevant like 15 years ago, even if they aren't my favorite loyalist chapter. It's Salamanders, but I hate that they've been labeled as the Reddit chapter
>>544298871
>>544298871This is all you get.
>>544300889please do. I'm glad to hear you're still into miniatures
>>544301406are you learning hebrew too?
>>544301406
>weekly is unwinnableah yes the hand picked and designed by a developer combination of mutatorstotally not random and definitely tested by someone in the studio
>>544301406>claims to be iron hands fan>is actually iron fists fan
>>544303962Not only that but the other brother >>544301341 is a Fist of the North Star aficionado.There's a pattern emerging here....
>>544303650PLAYSOLOWITHBOTS
>>544304467THEBOTSWILLGET YOU KILLEDBECAUSE THEYARE FUCKINGDUMBANDFACETANKEVERYTHING
>>544304735Anon, the bots do not transfer any damage to you with the Great Responsibility modifier. None. Zero. It is literally easier than Solo Absolute because you have 200% HP with none of the downsides.
>>544274080The game has incredible potential, but saber will never manage to capitalize on it. Every update will be a tiny, miniscule step in the right direction, but there will always be many more steps they'd need to take to dig the game out of the mire of mediocre design it's been buried in. It'll feel like progress, like the game is getting somewhere every time, but every time you get excited to see a change you've been waiting for, you'll come back and get frustrated at a dozen other issues they still haven't fixed (or that they have accidentally introduced because of spaghetti code).
For those that don't know, the melee damage cap was removed in the PTS. The Heroic Knife is capable of one-shotting bosses.
>>544305178Nice, even less reasons to have an ***ault in your team.
Jesus fucking Christ it's finishedThat was annoying as fuck. I basically ran right through the last segment after getting Mitrian's brain because otherwise it would just keep bogging me down in endless spawns.Just gotta do normal now. Hopefully it's easier.
>>544307060assault is one of the classes where that can open up more possibilities as well.
>>544305005You're barking up the wrong tree. This is a nearly 15 year old sequel for a franchise notorious for putting out crappy products. The fact it sold enough to have two years worth of low priced content is astounding in the first place.
>>544307258assault could reach the damage cap? thats news to me.
>>544303962I'm going to choke your dumbass out.
>>544307591It would be astounding if the IP wasn't 40k, like Helldivers for example. This game on the other hand is being hard carried by the Warhammer 40,000 name and the good presentation. I'm confident barely anyone would give a shit about this if you were playing with generic military dudes against OC do not steal aliens. The mechanics and the design are just weak.
>thought people only used plasma on heavy because its braindead>its really because heavy stance is so fucking ASS to work withyou should be able to roll out of heavy stance without turning it off
>>544310369It's a bitch, but it could be worse. You could have to root yourself in place like a Biovore.
>>544310369you are supposed to aim it at the ground, there is a damage penalty if the projectile hits an enemy
>>544310632>there is a damage penalty if the projectile hits an enemy
>>544310632>>544310804This is the second time in a week or so I've seen this mentionedThere is no goddamn damage penalty. The issue is that the plasma projectiles have an aoe if they hit the ground vs if they hit an enemy head on, and the heavy plasma's specifically to clear minoris you're better off hitting the enemy.Charged plasma you're still better off aiming for the enemy since the aoe's hitbox is so big you'll nab the big aoe on a ground anyway
>>544311127you sound fat. I'm killing nids faster when i shoot the ground. I will continue to do that and advise anyone who says plasma is bad.
>>544311478You're a retard and have no reading comprehension.
>>544310632I'm not talking about the projectile I'm talking about how entering heavy stance is just asking to die to a grab in horde scenarios on absolute
>>544312089You just gotta be ready to jab that mouse wheel.
so how do sniper deal with a horde of marauding gaunts?
>>544313732knife, grenade, carbine, sidearm, or go invis and let your loser teammates handle it
>>544313732by saying "brothers i am pinned here" over the mic
>>544314104I'm fighting for real this time!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BYDfDJ0nJA
>>544313732slowly
>>544314104Being part of the crew for this thing must be so comfy. Imagine spending days out in the field, danger all around, but you're safe and snug in your Baneblade. You step outside and it's cold, it's spooky, but ah! Climb back in the hatch and seal it! Now you're back inside a shell nothing short of a Titan could crack. Sleepy in your Baneblade. Cozy in your Baneblade.
>>544253747Ah, so THAT's where we lost a Ravener yesterday.
Is this Saint Lancae? Then I'm a beleiver.
>>544316537>You step outside and it's coldAnd then you get redeployed to a desert planet and the fucking thing has no AC.
Is there a single place, on any planet, anywhere in the galaxy, where a normal family can live a normal life?
heroic chain sword needs like 20% more damage and it will be really goodheroic bolt pistol needs to be a laser pointerheroic heavy bolt needs a 3x headshot mulit or ammo variant ammoheroic fist needs 1000% light attack damage>>544317990yes, lots. but that shit is boring so its never in any stories.
>>544317990That depends. For one lifetime of a specific member of that family? Possibly. Also, depends on your definition of 'normal'.
>>544317990Depends on what you mean by "normal family" and "normal life". Are you talking about the post-WW2 "2.5 kids with a dog and a picket fence in a cookie cutter neighborhood built from a Sears catalog" normal? Probably, but nothing ever happens there so nobody gives a shit. Or are you talking about the 12th century "work the fields and homestead from dawn to dusk and piss in a bucket while your kids collect dog shit on the side of the road so the tanners have the material to make leather" normal? Because the second one is every feudal world in the Imperium. Which again has nobody giving a shit because nothing ever happens
>>544317990Remember the most famous slogan of the franchise:>In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimdark
>>544318554It's so funny how they keep going "but what if we give you a bonus (15-50%) on light attack damage? will you use them then?" and then everyone looks at the numbers, sees that light attacks deal so little damage that even a 50% increase is still a floppy noodle while heavy attacks still are the only usable ones because they have all the damage, area, stun, and cleave that light attacks will never have.Like, they really do not understand what they would need to do to make light attacks worth using.
I think that was probably the hardest run I've had in my entire time with this game. Had a Neurothrope spawn just after the elevator, multiple Zoeys, multiple Lictors, a couple Biovores, and it all came down to the wire during the boss. Multiple times, I was 1 heal off of clearing my wound and then I'd get grabbed. Just before the boss, 2 Lictors spawned and almost made me shit. Weekly hard done, I can rest. Crazy how bots are better than most players.
Why does this general just suddenly die?
I like the mk7 helmet currently in the game but I really hope they will add the OG one from SM1 and pic related.
>>544324172>He doesn't know
>>544324570?
>>544324172People give the S*l*m*nd*r helmet shit for looking like it's got huge lips, but this and MK8 look goofy to me because it looks like an angry vacuum blow job. I still think both variants look goofier than the closed faced designs of 2, 3, 4, and 6 though. 4 is the best.
This fencing fags claim they dont die lolblock is way better
>>544325251and im done for today
>>544325251Why are you blacking out your name? If I see you in the wild, I wanna say hi. Someone from the general saw me mid mission and we had a bit of fun.
>>544325251Ayy, carramba! El creatura espacial!
>>544313732You play a real class of course.
>>544325251I just really don't like block. I know it's better but it doesn't feel very responsive and isn't as fun.
>set up executions>leave them and run forward>other players get locked into the execution animations and waste time while you're already running towards the next blob of enemiesgaming top damage is fucking insane, i can't believe i used to think my low damage meant skill issues
Heavy fucking sucks to play against chaos. Getting my ass torn open by Chaos Spawn regardless of the weapon. Heavy stance being clunky as fuck to use doesn't help.
>>544328279I shoot them with heavy plasma and they die.
>>544313732my bf (heavy main) usually kills them for me :)
>>544328413>works on my machinebased
I can't play anything other than Tactical. It's the only class I enjoy.
>>544329058I made myself learn to at least like the other classes, because once I maxed Tac and Van out I was like>Well what the fuck do I do until Techmarine drops???Now it's just down to Sniper and Heavy, and Sniper is one mission away from starting Prestige 4.
>>544325251I enjoy fencing because it makes the game fun for me.
>attempt solo hard strat>it's an endless wave after wave of 3x biovoresHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>544329657The game is a coin flip. Either it lets you win or it doesn't. You just have to fight as hard as you can to see what it chose for you.
>>544294214Pause the game and its at the top right, option to vote to kick should be available next to the player names
>>544330560>try again>pick bulwark this time>immediately get a neuro spawn in the first areaHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA this shit is obviously rigged it's insane
Why are Nids so much more fun to play against? Chaos fucking fucks.
>>544329657I look at the biovore and I can only conclude the devs are designing enemies from a place of spite at this point because that shit is not fun to deal with whatsoever. I fucking groan whenever one shows up in the middle of a massive horde because I just know it's gonna skitter to some fucked part of the level and shit out infinite spore mines before I even have a chance to close the distance, and even if I get close and start wailing on it, it might just decide to stay hunkered down and continue firing off mines. God help you if there's a barbed strangler somewhere on top of it because there is no fucking way you're gonna be able to properly divide your attention between the spore mines, strangler pods and the horde of warriors and hormagaunts without getting raped.
>>544331563Every thread:Because of synapse backlash
>>544331563Chaos Spawn are anti fun.Bullshit cultists that can't be executed and can still snipe your balls off.Executing Thousand Sons is boring because empty suits of armor/no goreOnly 1 terminus type.The hallucination debuff is way more annoying than the nid blindness.Fucking Chaos Spawn
>>544331563I think a big reason is there's no analogous mechanic to synaptic shock for Chaos. If you could kill a majoris and have all nearby minoris break morale and temporarily flee, giving you a chance to gun them down (hell, take it a step futher and give them a damage vulnerability debuff so bolter bodyshots kill them in one hit) they'd be a lot more fun to fight.Also the fact that ranged enemies are more likely to backpedal away from you and continue shooting, making them more dangerous than melee enemies because you can't parry a projectile, rather than being forced into melee if you close the gap, but that's an issue with both factions.
>>544332495>Executing Thousand Sons is boring because empty suits of armor/no goreSame will be true for necrons. They really need to keep nidders around for the third game. Nothing would feel quite as satisfying to wade through as swarms of these.
>>544333259At least Necrons are fucking cool and spooky though. Rubric Marines in their flamboyant armor shooting purple shit ain't threatening to look at even if it hurts.
>>544333259Necrons will be hordes of flayed ones, mark my words.
>>544331513You should never pick Bulwark on a solo run imo. ESPECIALLY one like this where you can't wait to get your banner back. It's important to be able to kill stuff from range before it kills you, and Bulwark isn't it. If you've got intelligent teammates that can properly focus down targets, that's different, but not here. Here, you need to be the one doing ranged. I cleared it with Tac and the Pyreblaster. Normally I'd pick the semi Bolt Carbine, but there were hordes of Majoris on my first attempt, and because the Neurothrope spawned in after the elevator, I was able to grab the Bolt Carbine from the drop pod mid fight to finish it off after I cleared all the Majoris. It also helps that I was constantly shitting out Meltas for the point capture. Killed 8 Warriors at once when they got me cornered and I was able to dip out. Sometimes this stuff is simple, others, you have to put some thought in to how you're going to run things. At the end of the day, it's still just a coinflip.
Why does the game just straight up deny parry inputs sometimes?Thought I was imagining it the first few times, but noticing it more while testing it on minoris groups. Can spam parry and you just stand there doing nothing. Not missing parries, just straight up doing nothing.
>>544333259Would Dark Eldar be interesting to fight against? They seemed like they'd be perfect fodder coming from the first Uriel Ventris book and Brothers of the Snake. Could have a really cool pc sized boss fight with their big boys, and I hate Eldar so fucking much because they always shit up whatever story they're in with their gay whinging that it'd be cathartic to see them butchered on screen.
> be the one who takes all damage> retards steals all the med kits
I hope the Grey Knights are involved in the next game. They're really interesting to read about
holy fucking shit if your damage taker is a bit behind you and has nothing to fucking shoot at to regain chp or armor dont fucking engage jesus fucking christ why are these retards like this this god damn shit is so much easier with bots i swaer to fucking god im going private
>>544313732You're only truly fucked if you're using Bolt Sniper Rifle Las Fusil mows them down along with the carbines
>>544313732shoulder barge + heavy circle slash spam into armor tradethis is why shadow stab is a meme
Why cant assault use primary weapons?
What is the difference between the melta and multi melta?
God I fucking hate that early carnifex spawn in Inferno. It's the shittiest fucking area with no room to maneuver.In general Inferno has the fucking worst spawn areas for the terminus. They're all tight cramped places with no space to actually fight.
>>544338458thats one of the best carnifex spawns because you can abuse the cliff
>>544300889>>544301809Here's what I'm working on, Termies with a Chapter Ancient. They're primed and I'm still on the fence whether I'm going to put the unpainted ones together and then paint or do each part separately.Really, I've picked up where I left off so long ago. I had too much on my plate all this time and I can finally find time to finish.
>>544338662oh you mean the even earlier onejust run around the pillar
>>544338801There's no pillar. If you mean the little rock outcrop with all the flowers, that doesn't help in Absolute due to the insane rate of enemy spawns.
>>544338458Blame Saber for adding a secondary guaranteed Terminus all because they keep listening to difficulty retards.
>Heroic knife gets buffed for test server>Everyone loves itWow! Its almost like side grades suck!
>>544338749I've got myself a combat patrol with a baby carrier as well, so that's gonna be a lot of fun. And to boot I bought GM Voldus and Crowe (I'm going to enjoy painting the sword without airbrush).The combat patrol... there's a lot of dudes there. I'm almost sure I'll put together after priming and go to town painting. I've got some crazy ideas on how to bring out lightning on power weapons and for the Librarian. Once all of those are done I'll be getting the Sanctic Conclave set. I probably bit too much than I can chew, but I'm excited either way. I nearly forgot how much I enjoy painting minis.I'll try to post an update every once in a while. I don't want to trash the thread unnecessarily.Also, I still see Iron Hands Anon is going strong with his minis >>544271850. Good work Brother!
>>544255460>So, I get that Assault isn't as good as say, Vanguard (when played well), but why exactly is he considered shit?You said the exact problem perfectly. Everything is a comparison, if a class does your job but better then what is the point of the class? Fun isn't enough because functionality matters in video games. In order for Assault to be on par with Vanguard for example your jump pack slam would have to >regenerate a full charge on a single kill>provide full damage immunity from start to finish of the animation (without a prestige perk being wasted)And on top of that, every single you kill extremis or larger enemies you would have to regen 30% of your HP.Its hilarious to me how bad the balancing is, you can write down classes abilities next to each other and instantly see the balance is a joke.
>>544339269The failure to balance SM2 is Sabers fault. And plenty of coop games have successfully provided a casual and hardcore experience.
>>544334447In order for Eldar to work as a faction vs space marines you would have to introduce some sort of concept of suppressive fire. Because Eldar dodge rather than tank, players would need to mag dump towards Eldar to try and hit them rather than be accurate.
>can no longer fast grind Decap Absolute since there's going to be a Neuro spawn somewhere>game won't dump you in games where there is a conflicting class>Techmarine has 3 different shoulder guns, the Omnissian Axe and a Neo-Volkite rifle
>>544340807They said they're going to do something they promised never to do, my cope is that they're going to allow multi-classing.
>>544339517best part is it is still worse than block knife
Stratagems suck
>>544340986Would be neat but doubt it
>>544341948Ah fuck you're right I didn't realise it was under 'customization'. Well, thats stupid as shit. Well done adding a class only 1/3 can use at a time. Even Darktide didn't do something that moronic.
is the only thing keeping the game aliveget gud scrub
>>544341868Agreed. Chaos Wastes from V2 is how Stratagems should work. But Saber is allergic to letting people have fun.
>>544341186God forbid the led dev admits that side grades are boring
BrothersTactical Imperial Fist, Assault Blood Angel and Sniper Raven Guardor Tactical Blood Angel, Assault Raven Guard and Sniper Imperial Fist?
>>544343856Retributors on all.
>>544339269I genuinely don't get why they thought a second terminus would be fun. It's fucking shitJust lost an Inferno as Sniper because they threw two Carnifex's at me. And they didn't have the decency to give more than one stimA single fucking stim the entire mission.
>>544344674>Just lost an Inferno as Sniper>Solo as sniper There is your first problem
>>544345454It's okay, heroic sniper rifle makes it a piece of cake. It really was just the fucking carnifex.
how many more years until they buff the neo volkite pistol?
Give me the blood angel champ skin so I can put it on my assault and never wear it on my tac already
>>544334158post webm of this happening? Actual parry timings dont line up with the flash indicator
>>544334158Is this with balance weapons? Because the first 10 frames of the balance block do not have parry frames. Once you miss once there is some sort of fuckery about landing the second/third/ect parrys.
>>544345578>Heroic sniper is better than other snipers>Gets nerf down to 1 bullet only
>>544330771with tab or esc?
>>544347926you can color the champ skin and turn him into a Blood Angels Captain
Just did the Hard Strategem on solo after only getting as far as the elevator with actual people. A neurothrope spawned in the final section before the Trygon but the HPB and For the Emperor buffing dealt with it pretty painlessly.I actually think I hate carnifexes more because it has no stagger animation so fishing for gunstrikes is a pain in the dick against it. Plus it delays its swings more than chaos spawns. I had no intention of trying to do this legitimately.
>>544352540Fencing. Don't feel like logging in just now and don't know if I'll be able to record it later. My character just stands completely still while I press my parry key, no animation of preparing to guard or anything at all. Google searching it it appears some others have also experienced it too.
Here's assault's new jetpack dash attack.https://youtu.be/RNrFNAw4L84?si=07P9LLPv71C8J9h8
>>544353668I expected nothing and I was still disappointed.
>week's stratagem modifier is just "play alone lol"not good design
They really just can't give up the jetpack charge system can't they? It would be a million times easier to manage if they threw out the notion that it is a charge to use the jetpack. Make it the charge to perform a ground pound and simply make jumping around and dashing free, then Assault is liberated from the cycle of constantly trying to justify the cost of using a jetpack charge. The invincibility when charging a ground pound should not apply to normal arcing jumps and drop attacks, so you can't exploit it as a way to survive forever as a ranged unit will eventually get a bead on you in the air, maybe even be programmed to target a careless jumper.
>>544354820Only because the modifier doesn't transfer to you while playing bots.The moment Saber notices that they'll "fix" it.
>>544354935At the very least they could have had a graphic above the actual guy who has the damn buff.It won't make it any easier to at least HAVE a fucking indicator.
>>544354873It wouldn't matter if Assault become the most powerful melee class in the game. People take HP damage, Vanguard/Bulwark give it back. That is the imbalance, not the way that the existing mechanics work. The cowardice in not removing HP recovery is original stupidity of which we are all paying the price and will continue to do so until SM3 where they hopefully learn their fucking lesson and either give all classes HP recover, or give no classes HP recovery.
Even plebbit is now realizing how fucked assault actually is. Saber is so fucking tone deaf with that class just because of precision strike.
kill all assault players
>assault...le bad!doesn't matter after patch 11, he has access to block axe, he is a good class after patch 11>b-butshut up
>>544355286My statement has nothing to do with class balance but just getting the class to work. They are introducing these fast dash attacks because they are trying to give value to the jump pack charge outside of ground pound to the player, this is entirely internal to the class by itself. It is not going to work and it is forever going to be a difficult sell. My point is that simply making the jetpack free to use lets them forget about trying to make it valuable and they can then be free to start thinking about what the Assault brings to the team. Should he have more supportive or sustain abilities or double down on providing the best defense through strong offense? These questions aren't being asked because they are still struggling with the class's own identity.
>>544276420>carnifex runs into a wall and gets stunned>point at it until it dies
>>544355695>a single weapon is somehow going to save the dumpster fire that is assaultlol?
>give Assault ground pound heal per kill in addition to recharging their jump pack>3 jump pack charges by default>give it Vanguard's Majoris heal on kill but better, like 10-15% heal, even make it a team perk since to ensure almost every team will take an Assault teammate instead of autokicking them since Majoris are plentiful across all difficulties save for a specific modifier >invincibility while midair should be a normal perk, not a prestige one>prestige perk should make melee easier and stronger for Assault, like Duellist on steroids; this will also kill Balanced/Fencing/Block tribalism>have one of the prestige perks grant an extra jump pack charge or two>a prestige perk that automatically does an AoE explosion everytime you use the jump pack and whenever you land in a ground pound
>>5443556952 other classes also have access to the axe, why should i use him over the other two?
>>544355741Yes it does and no it doesn't.
>>544355695>>544356259>>544356128they are going to fix the charge attack toofinally 1 hit kill tyranids in hard strats
>>544356501So can bulwark
>>544356501You know what else dodges an attack and deals damage?The default roll > attack on every single class.
>>544356501>they are going to fix the charge attack tooSaar they fix class saar
>>544356619They don't have a sweet Jetpack to do it with
The bloody perfect dodge with assault doesn't even work anyway. I've tried it, and too often you will "perfectly" dodge an attack and you won't recover your charge.Meanwhile Vanguard gets a giant dial that exactly points out when an enemy is at 30% HP and when to grapple it, which then by default makes you invincible and deals insane AoE damage when you take the passives for it. This is literally kiddy tier issues to solve and they can't figure it out.
>>544356801>SweetYou mean the campaign one? Yeah its pretty fucking awesome, almost perfect. Real shame instead of that they gave us this trashy gimped version.
>>544356557ok but with "CONOCIMIENTO DEL ENEMIGO" and the charge perk you can 1 shot them even with fencing, the favorite type of weapon of the noobs in this generalon bulwark you can only do it with the block fist
>>544356970>gets a giant dial that exactly points out when an enemy is at 30% HP and when to grapple it,The dial is for valid grapnel targets, not necessarily pointing out an enemy is in executable health range, those are the colors the enemy flashes when they get hit which anyone can see.Unless they changed that reticle in particular for Vanguard but I don't believe it's been touched.
>>544357889>out an enemy is in executable health rangeWhen only 1 bar is visible its below the 30% threshold meaning you don't need to see the enemy flashing
>>544357889he's talking about lock-on but nobody uses lock on when theres 14 warriors prowling about
>>544358028Oh that.Everyone has that though.
>>544358117And? The point is that Vanguard does the exact same thing as Assault and can do it easily. Assault can't get back an entire charge off 1 kill.
>>544356128A single weapon is about to save the dumpster fire that is sniper, so yeah.>>544356259because he has a sick jetpack
Vanguard footdive is shockingly effective.the buff from killing a majoris can get a terminator within 2 heavy melees of incap. Firepower bolt pistol is tied with fire power heavy bolt pistol for most gun strike damage now, its very okay. Heroic Chain Sword is SO close to being a top tier melee weapon, it just needs more damage or a block variant. Heroic Instigator is just a straight upgrade to the normal instigator, needs a spread reduction.Not sure how this build would hold up with other players but solo its pretty good. It would probably do slightly better than the normal chain grapple execution build.
>>544358270Block axe isn't doing anything that any other block weapon cant already do dumbass
>>544358339>a block chainsword heroic that has an effect like double edged, where you can get more use out of something that isn't rev skip into shoulder bashI'd cumit'd make me less annoyed that tactical didn't get power axe, but I think I will just have to cope with the fact that techmarine will have both power axe and two handed power axe, and will also just be a better tactical
>>544358603oh yeah wow I forgot where every single block weapon can immediately follow up two perfect blocks with a disengage followed by an instantaneuous heavy AoE attack that is boosted to the tits for base damage already, killing everything in a straight line directly in front of you, followed by yet another AoE attack that will land within the duration of the boosted damage
>multiple anons posted their 30k block axe damage with vanguard on the PTS>bLOCk aXe isN'T DOING AnytHiNg ThAt anY oTHer blOCK WeAPoN caNT alReAdY Do duMbASs
>>544358608Too bad it will never happen because Saber is staffed by sunflower fertilizer.
>>544358952>Assault is good because block axe>That makes no sense>NO IT MAKES SENSEOk anon
>>544360161>le green text that clearly shows I am not following the conversation because I don't know fucking anything about anythingdemeaning reply
>>544360293>text that clearly shows I am not following the conversation because I don't know fucking anything about anythingAgreed, I accept your concession.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLvYpUGvCw0Power gladius, when min maxed, can now do 60%+ of an terminus
bros what the fuck is wrong with this game? why does this shit keep happening?
>>544361556Its also completely impractical to use. Actually getting 3 perfect dodges and an opening to use shadow stab will basically never happen.
>Exfiltration + Great responsibility>Reliquary1/3 dailies today!
>>544333259Robots can be fun to destroy, it's all about a functional and active dismemberment system where you can shoot off their arms or legs while they're alive and shit.
>>544361651fixed it. vram issue.
Necrons would fuck up memory since lingering corpses would have to be there for reanimation protocols to kick in sometimes.
>>544363489Well, I mean the hope is even incompetent snow squatters could update their engine to be less shit by the third game.
I'm really hoping the negative feedback against Assault's shitty new dodge attack makes Saber rework it into a meteoric shoulder bash that just kills everything in front of you.
>>544363945The hilarious part is even then it's still limited in scope compared to ground pound. It'd only be good against nuking Extremis to death. For every other scenario, GP is still better.
>>544363945literally all they need to do is make wings of flame scale based off difficulty like they have every other damaging effect in the entire fucking gamebut they won't do it, because then assault would be strong as fuck and performing ground slams would be a total waste
>>544365269Wings of Flame does scale. It does 25 damage on Minimal and 100 on Absolute.
>>544365461then make it do more
>>544365498I mean, they really shouldn't considering they've fucked themselves into these abilities being technically infinitely spammable.
>>544365904I'm fairly certain that the thing that makes assault finally good will be saber trying to make a small, incremental change and not understanding the full implications of it, and it resulting in assault being the most gigabroken class in the game by a wide margin. Either that, or they'll create some sort of bug that only buffs assault and won't fix it for a while.
>>544340142In the stories I read, only the big bad Eldar had any hope against either Ventris or Priad. The others were slaughtered basically, with minimal casualties. I think if they operated like the Warriors do now except they took cover, it'd work. Dodging just like Warriors do out in the open, just enough to keep the game from being brain dead, and either moving to new cover or weaving to close the distance for melee. Maybe add a nice destructible environment system so you can blast them out of their hiding spots.
>>544343856You must be a really boring person irl with these cliche ass picks. Tacitcal Fist is a good start though. Blood Angels suck, and from the couple Raven Guard books I've read, they're actually beasts even when not being sneaky. Make him the Vanguard. I run an Iron Hands Sniper because the idea of a Space Marine version of a Death Mark, a dude running calculation upon calculation, getting collaterals and shit using the superior logic of the Omnissiah is cool.
>>544367098If it were up to me, Assault would have been deleted and redone long ago.Working on the idea that I can't let Assault fly too high or I'm gonna break all sorts of level geometry boundaries and other shit, and how it's incredibly restrictive to the point of annoyance... I'd just not let him fly in the first place in PvE. Instead I'd go all in and dashing, gap closing and dodging. He should be the most casually mobile class in the game, his bog standard second-tier dodges should be the jump dashes, and perks should affect them based on certain conditions.People are too attached to the ground pound when it's the cause of all of Assault's woes. It robs all the balance changes because everything has to be made for or around it. It ruins the experience on Assault in general, and it's plagued with bugs.
>>544367098he's already kind of ridiculous in terms of survivability, giving him any real offensive power would tip him pretty heavilywon't matter, though, he will remain firmly B-team because actually contributing to the team also matters, and tactical, bulwark, and techmarine are never going to be displaced there
>>544363945>>544365269To me saber has backed themselves into a corner with assault because they have bulwark storm rush. Storm rush covers a fuck ton of distance, does damage that rivals a fucking power fist, interacts with tons of perks and block damage buffs, let's you fucking block while charging it so it's 100% safe, and has no cooldown of any kind whatever. There's absolutely nothing they can give to assault to compete with this because it's what assault should have gotten.
>>544368320Again, I truly believe Bulwark and Tactical are balanced by a person or group separate from the individuals balancing Assault. Both of those two keep getting extensive perk reworks that are always stupidly good.
>>544368461I fully agree with you and I feel it's something that happens a lot in modern game dev. Different teams will balance different characters and no one talks with each other and no one is in charge of the overall vision. So you get wild as fuck power imbalances.
>>544368084>he's already kind of ridiculous in terms of survivability, giving him any real offensive power would tip him pretty heavilyWhat? He's one of the most fragile, least forgiving classes in the game and the one thing he's good for is outputting damage that gets close to bulwark's level.
You know, I kinda like this game. Just prestiged my Bulwark and I found the fist to be awesome at 1shotting terminus
>>544368320Do you need to fully charge storm rush? I don't use it at all because it feels clunky.
Jetpack dodge becomes free. Instead going up has I frames akin to a jetpack dodge and interacts with all the perks that do (also replace a couple perks to revolve around perfect dodging).Including refunding your jetpack charge if you dodge an attack while going up with it.
>>544372890The numbers depend on what weapon you're using. Power axe averages around 120 damage uncharged and 180 full charged. This is with some perks. For reference a block power fist does around 220 damage on its long ass level 2 charge that exposes you. Shield Rush blocks while you charge it for some retarded reason.
>>544373263Um, because you're still holding a shield out in front of you. It'd be more retarded for it NOT to block.
>>544373421It's just a terrible balance choice. It's basically a power fist except the one weakness of the fist removed (vulnerable while charging). Meanwhile assault can use his whole ability to do a light attack.
>>544374027Maybe they should just buff Assault instead of nerfing Bulwark. Again, it'd be retarded if it didn't work this way. You're using a shield.
>>544358952You can already do 30k with thammer or fist.
>>544374502But we can't buff Assault, because ______.But we can't buff Assault THAT WAY, because ______.Even though it's pretty obvious what kinds of simple things you could do to buff Assault in general.
>Never really thought of Assault that impressive>hit 4 ground pounds in a row>mfw
What do????
i'll miss the multi-melta double shot exploit
>>544376139Buy cosmetics or save yourself for the wrapped bolt sniper.
>>544374958meanwhile they add shield rush to bulwark for some reason
>>544376407>>544374958Bulwark is the only class able to cancel his melee attacks into a dodge via shield block which is a mere 1 frame stance change.Bulwark gets Assault's jump pack dodge except free, does more damage, and with heavy stagger.Bulwark makes Assault watch in the cuck chair while Bulwark has fun.
>>54429127420 heavy bolter headshots i redicolous. Why are enemies such absolute HP sponges?
What do we think about the Stalker Bolt Rifle on Tac?
>>544378051Literally top three in his arsenal. Better against Nids than Chaos, but still mulches heads.
>>544378051It's the Tactical's best gunPlasma Incinerator can't regen contested health efficiently and you still need 3 full charges to put a Majoris on redPyreblaster is just a delayed Melta rifle with none of the stun
>>544380214>Plasma Incinerator can't regen contested health efficientlyYou just fire a single charged shot.
>>544380214This nigger ain't running the max charge speed version of the Plas and implying it's mediocre because of it
>>544380214I WOULD SAY THE PYREBLASTER IS HIS BEST WEAPON. IT MAY NOT BURST DOWN MAJORIS, BUT THE HARDEST STRATAGEMS USUALLY HAVE A SHIT TON OF MINORIS OR CROWDS OF MAJORIS THAT DONT ALLOW FOR MORE ACCURATE AIM. YOU CAN JUST POINT, AIM, SQUEEZE, SWEEP EVERYTHING UNGA BUNGA STYLE. SO LONG AS YOU KEEP YOUR DODGES AND BLOCKS CONSISTENT, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CHP. YOU CAN ALSO CLEAR MINORIS SWARMS OFF OF TEAMMATES.
>>544380285It's still slower compared to the bolters, Melta and Pyreblaster since common shots don't regen as high as fully charged shots and charging while contested health is bleeding is wasted time>>544380373I do use the venting speed version, any other version is trash unless you're willing to melee
boltgun 2 trailer made me soo angry. it's, for all purposes, just a fucking mod. they changed the character sprites, added a few new weapons, recycled the bloodletter enemy that was supposed to be in the dlc, kept everything else the same, and have the hutzpah to ask for a full game price. there are free doom mods that have a bigger scope than this.
Why the fuck is there maintenance?
Grabs are so poorly designed.The number of button presses required to escape makes rushing to escape a grab pointless because you'll never retain any health, all your contested health is lost in the glacially slow escape animation. It's a guaranteed full health bar loss if one ever lands.And they aren't majorly telegraphed compared to regular red attacks, raveners grab constantly and give you under a second to dodge them while constantly appearing at different angles.It also has the same indicator as a basic red despite being infinitely more dangerous and red circles often not appearing in combat for enemies not in your line of sight.Not like your random retard teammates will help you either, they'll just stare at you like a house cat even if literally nothing else is happening, assuming they have the awareness to notice in the first place.It also highlights how bad the attack indicator system is in general. Reds aren't a consistent source of timing, some reds require you to roll late, some immediately, so an offscreen ravener grab forces you to roll early and dodge a red you don't know is a ravener grab or roll early and get fucked by a red you were supposed to wait for.The sound cues for blues and reds are too similar as well.
>>544383757>The sound cues for blues and reds are too similar as wellThey're adding a new sound for unparryable attacks in the next update. The monkey's paw curse is that it's the most ear-grating, nails-on-chalkboard sound imaginable.
>>544383757Red warnings have a new sound on the pts
>>544384512wow it only took one year to do thatcrazy how incompetent these people areI still can't believe the game launched without colorable helmet lenses and it took like 4 months to get those addedwhat's next, in another year they remove the thing where all weapon XP is lost beyond what's necessery for the next tier?or bots will have team perks?incredible!fucking cuntsI can't wait until the "customization update" comes out too and it will be the most disappointing shit ever instead of the detailed approach people have been asking for
>>544385063wasn't the customization update already released? they did cut champion skins into parts didn't they
>>544385232That's not a customization update. That's just more items.And even that was completely fucked up since some parts weren't available for no reason, others weren't colorable, others were colorable but with improper materials, or were missing clothes and other attachments. Just zero fucking care put into it.
>>544385232No, the customization update is something else. We don't know what.
>>544385715You would think they'd avoid bullshitting about stuff so they can get early feedback before they implement some dumb or half baked thing and tweak it so everyone is happy when it drops.
>>544386387They don't need to do that. Everyone sucks their dicks no matter what they do. Gamers in general, and especially the 40k crowd are well-trained, docile consumers.
>>544386586Then what's the point of making any updates the fans ask for? They could've left everything as it was, yet we're slowly getting qol fixes and things we asked for or pointed out that were needed. Why not just get it right the first time?
>>544339741Hello grey knight anon, sorry for ragequitting the last match we played together. That pic is actually not that recent, currently painting iron father feirros atm.Nice to see your still around aswell! Grey knights got done real dirty in 10th, hopefully 11th edition gives you that big refresh they are supposed to be getting.
>>544388029To get more sales. Games as a service.
>>544341948If Saber was based they would let us play Chaos in Siege mode.
>>544388679Seriously. How the fuck is this not an option?
>>544388250>Iron HandsMY BROTHER!!!
>>544388262So why waste their own time of having to go back and fix shit instead of just doing it right the first time?
>>544388679There was a guy who posted a PvP code here with a gentleman's agreement yet no one joined.If someone joined you'd have Chaos skins now, no need to bother with actually playing PvP since you're simply trading point blank kills for an hour or two with an Anon from here.The skins only unlock after 10 matches of 8+ kills per class :)
>>544341948>>544388679I think the first change is going to be additional coloring options for existing parts. I have no evidence for this beyond a hunch based on two recently added armor parts>Relic Guard Chest>Veteran Molecular Bonding Stud shoulderThese two armor parts, the chest added in the last patch, and the new shoulder in the PTS, are the only armor parts to my knowledge that break the rule on your tertiary color option affecting medallions and trinkets hanging from your body. They're not a static and unchangeable color like on literally every other piece of armor. Currently, it looks like shit because they're forced to be the same color as the trim so it's just a blob of the same color... but if you were able to change the color of each part independently?
>>544389520Because they're fucking incompetent? Is this complicated for you?
On the PTS can you just point at the heldrake and skip the tedious symbols phase
>>544389934i haven't played absolute chaos in a long time but you can one-cycle it in ruthless, so i guess you need to match symbols 2-3 times on higher difficulties, how the fuck is this "tedious"
>>544390783>Get to heldrakeon lethal>think it's going to take forever.>Tell teammates to be careful>The Deathwatch Tact auspexs and melts its entire health at in like 3 seconds with stalker boltHoly fuck. Tactical is busted.
>>544392081>Wearing Deathwatch to a chaos missionAbsolutely NOT codex approved.
Communicating with this fanbase outside of this general may as well be an effort in trying to discuss color theory with the blind.>Assault's jump dodge ability is bad because it provides none of the utility, defense, mobility or damage of ground pound>Ground pound moves you further>Ground pound has three stages of invincibility>Ground pound deals more damage than Wings of Flame ever could>Ground pound is near-endlessly spammable in big hordes with Zealous Blow>Ground pound doesn't require me to wait for an enemy to attack me for it to work>Ground pound can stagger bosses out of their attacks>yeah dude just make jump dodge have like more uses and a different cooldown then it'll be good!
>>544393179first time on the internet?
>>544388250It sometimes happens, but no hard feelings, Brother. It's all good. Great to see Feirros is coming along nicely, and that's some amazing detail. I was admire the lengths you go through to add all the intricacies. I really like that but I've yet to buy transfers for purity seals myself, so I'll have to freehand them with Cygor brown. My main focus is to nail those powers swords as much as possible.Yeah, 10th edition, at least lore wise, was an unmitigated disaster. But it's GW so I expect them to go around the bend on occasion. As for the refresh I hope, if and when it happens, it will at least retain their unique look.
>>544370174>-50% CHP drain rate and access to plasma pistol>armor on nonlethal gunstrike>combat ability can be chained into a horde providing invincibility the entire duration of spamming itif assault is "fragile" then tactical is what, tissue paper?>>544374889Are you doing 30k melee damage with block weapons on live servers while just casually playing the game?Are you doing 30k melee damage while also doing 20-30k ranged damage?No, you fucking aren't.
>>544331563For me is seeing nids break, die and bleed. It genuinely feels you are tearing them apart on the battlefield. Thousand Sons doesn't give that feeling most of the time. Like a crushed Rubricae might just return later. Cultists you can tear them apart but they don't even scream or run away from you, they don't break. The only good feel i have is executing the Sorcerers really.>>544334447yeah i think they could be fun to fight. Different enemy than everyone else, more fast and agile. Tearing apart kabal warriors sound like fun.Honestly space marine 3 should go out of only using chaos has enemies and try two other enemies used little. Dark Eldar and Necrons could be good picks. Unless they want to return with greenskins. It would be great if they also kept the enemies of space marine 2 but they will probably not do that.
Some new datamined content, Brothers. Here's how the new silenced RG bolter will look and sound like in action:https://streamable.com/ldkwdz
>>544375442clearing chaff is not really impressive either
>>544399604I'm confused is that a new weapon or skin? It looks like the heroic bolt pistol
>>544399604There's no audio.
>>544399604>>544399908My bad, I forgot to encode the audio. I deleted the old video. The right one is here:https://streamable.com/3fvpjc>>544399803It's just a skin but with additional features, i.e. ammo counter (like in heroic instigator bolt carbine) and muffled sound.
>>544402256I don't think this is a cosmetic. Cosmetics can't be applied to Heroic versions, and this is firing in bursts.
>>544402256>>544402516Was gonna say this, either you can apply it to the heroic version or its a new weapon.
>tfw no lighting claws weapon for RG assault What other weapons are we missing?
How do I into Bulwark? Is there some secret I'm missing? I see these motherfuckers tank whole groups of majoris and barely get hurt.
>>544404031flails, maces, halberds (coming with the techmarins probably), scythes, one handed hammers (but only termies use this iirc)
>>544404031An auto bolter that doesn't suck ass.
>>544405129You will click le heads you will like it
>>544399604>silenced bolterwhy are we doing this retarded shit? does that even exist in the current codex?
>>544399604How the fuck do you "silence" a bolt? It's essential a micro missile launcher
>>544402516>>544402941The heroic bolter model has been replaced with a regual bolter with RG skin, hence the burst shot. It won't be a new weapon, but it will have muffled sound effect.
>>544406540Do we know what the melee weapon is going to be?
>>544395630>Are you doing 30k melee damage with block weapons on live servers while just casually playing the game?If I'm solo, yes>Are you doing 30k melee damage while also doing 20-30k ranged damage?If I'm playing Assault, yes.>No, you fucking aren't.Yes I fucking am.
>>544395630everyone just needs to ignore this faggot hes an esl third worlder faggot that has no clue what hes talking about
>I do not play the PTS and I think block axe is bad>I have a brainpick one
Beating this week's Hard strat is the true filter whether you actually belong in Absolute or not.You can be carried in previous Hard strats but this week you are heavily encouraged to go solo and get the unending damage buff at the cost of stupid bots.
>>544410378Nobody's saying the block axe is bad.
>>544410378Either retarded, cant read or both. No one said the block axe was bad.
>I n-never said block axe was bad>I just scoffed at any possibility that it was good or unique among block weapons>no, I haven't played the PTS, how could you tell?
>>544412543>I just scoffed at any possibility that it was good Nobody said this>or unique among block weaponsYes, I didHere. New mission. I barely got halfway through the mission and got 20k on a block power sword.Tell me again how you can't easily hit 30k in any block weapon.
>here's my failed mission screen where I'm off by 10k damage
>>544412543Put on a trip or something so I can filter your retarded fucking posts pls
>>544414589>get halfway through the new mission with block powersword and get 20k anyway>but block weapons can't hit 30k! honest!Also proves the fact I didn't play the PTS wrong, meaning you've lost the ground of "you didn't play the PTS"Anyway, grow the fuck up you childish faggot and reply to people you're talking to.
>>544389827Now that's different from the other reasons you gave.
/vg/ always has the biggest fucking clowns for any given gamewe've got the "block weapons are bad and you are a contrarian for picking them" fencelordswe've got the "patch 11 block axe isn't anything significant" dumbassesif we can just get someone to say the wrapped bolt sniper sucks I think we'll really have established that you should never listen to anything anyone says here ever
they're really quiet now because they're all three
>>544415534The wrapped bolt sniper rifle sucks and 99% of the playerbase will finish ammo in the first engagement because they can't hit heads for shit.
>>544415534i haven't tried the PTS but i'm excited for adrenaline surge overhead strikes
>>544421334oh wait, the adrenaline surge would trigger on the power backstep wouldn't it?
>Block is go-AIEEEEEE IS THAT A HORDE OF TZAANGORS SAVE ME NIDDERMAN
>>544421634They do. Pretty sure the aoe is also where the wave is hitting not from the swing of your axe.Meaning it's really good against majoris groups.
>>544415534Pretty sure the "block is actually bad" posts are all mostly one poster trolling.If it's more than one person, or they're not trolling, that'd be pretty sad.
>>544404031Chain fists, eviscerater, grav weapons, vortex grenade, storm boltor, las cannon.
>>544405597You could suppress the initial detonation, but given that bolt weapons are said to emit "the Emperor's roar" I don't think it would really help.
>>544399604what is this SOCOM shit
>Blockniggers getting uppity again
>>544421947>>544423016thank you for confirming the dogshit opinion that block axe isn't good is coming from you
>>544423458Block is shit in general. I have never once seen any of you blockfags not panic roll out of a horde and eat shit on Absolute or Hard Strats. You get mogged by the dumbest enemies every time.
>>544423016>>544423458>>544424102Samefag
>>544406909Omnissiah axe/power halberd is all but confirmed and strings for Grav cannon were in the files (much like with Inferno Pistol way back). I might be able to dig some more once patch goes live, but as it stands that's all in new weapons department.
>>544424775Lmfao, I was joking about the Grav weapons.
>>544405597The suppressor would at least work to make the conventional charge harder to locate, but even the tiny gyrojet rocket firearms have a very noticeable sound in flight so the gigantic rocket charge on bolters would make them fucking useless. Can't really get the most out of suppressors without also using subsonic ammunition(that also definitely wouldn't have a booster). Snipers would at least benefit from the flash suppression(to a degree, bolts probably have a pretty noticeable rocket charge) at long range but the benefits for a short range bolter would be very situational and very marginal.Real gyrojet guns cause an unnerving amount of backblast for the operator so I suppose I could see this benefiting mortal users more by partially offsetting the undoubtedly unpleasant backblast a bolt would have.It's mostly just primaris tacticool for the sake of it.
>>544424262Cope
>>544424775He's clearly holding a Pyreblaster though
>>544425490Like I said, there were only strings mentioning Grav cannon. The pic with pyreblaster was made when the model for it was found in the game files in July. I only attached it since it shows the power halberd model.
>>544424262you got me
>>544424775What's with that incredibly retarded 3D render? That's just a regular ass marine with a fucked up paintjob. The techmarine will be using Gravis armor as a base and will have a unique backpack with shit sticking out of it.
>>544423458>coming from youFrom whom? Me who said the block axe will not dig Assault out of the hole it's in? Which is exactly what I said back here>>544374889This is what triggered this autism. The fact I stated something that is factually correct. Any block weapon, but especially thammer and fist, can easily hit 30k on Assault (or Bulwark)Fixing the lack of backstep on block axe is not going to magically fix Assault, which is what the OTHER anon said here (yes that wasn't me that called you a dumbass, since I'd just call you a worthless subhuman faggot)>>544358603Now shut the fuck up and stop pretending this is about block vs fencing when it's actually about the abysmal state of the Assault class you worthless disingenuous cunt. Just to reiterate>>544355695This is the post that started this fucking shitstorm and anons told you to fuck off about. This is it. And you're STILL wrong hours nearly a day after.
>>544426243it looks to me that there wasn't any official model for Telorian and that's just a mockup for the weapons that got datamined
>>544426506uh oh, melty
This block vs fencing arc has gone on for too long. I wish the writers would come up with something else
>>544426848>Oh no! He's calling back to all my previous posts to demonstrate my inconsistencies and disingenuous shitposting>Better say he's having a melty! That'll help!Fuck off you worthless faggot.
>>544427080take a deep breath
>>544426970I don't get it either, so much shit flinging for nothing. Fuck, this is a co-op game (solo with techmarine's release), fun is the deciding factor. Just use whatever you like and whether it does million damage on 0,00001 sec of perfect block or parries the exterminatus from the orbit the second it launches doesn't matter.Let people enjoy melee they prefer.
Gee, who would've thought.... Color me shocked Brothers.
>>544428051The real interesting stats are how much it won by
>>544427309>haha i totally made you madNo, I'm just playing the PTS and enjoying the fact I am utterly and absolutely correct in everything I've stated so far, while you languish in being completely and utterly wrongNow stop replying. Go back to being a child and "not giving me (you)s" or whatever.
>>544425158What if the bolts have a longer delay on the booster? Wouldn't work up close, but maybe it would make sense for a sniper variant meant for use at long to extreme ranges to ensure the bolt has enough penetrating power by the time it ignites and reaches the target?
>>544428678>Those obelisk votesChecks out.
>>544428742there has never been a more ineffectual attempt to prove a person is not, in fact, upset
>>544426970Yeah, I don't get it. I prefer block, but there were times where I found fencing to be the better option. What matters is whether or not you can use the archetype skillfully enough to stay alive. If you suck with either one and are good with the other, what does it matter? It's not like there are team buffs with either of them.
>>544428678Anyone saying Vortex is fucking lying, that, or they themselves lied about the number to make their new mission not seem as dog shit as it is. It's long, tedious, the boss blows dicks, and oh! it's Chaos.
>>544399604>>544402256>3 shotsWait will this be a skin for the heroic bolter specifically?
I love Ferrus Manus!!!
>>544429390see >>544406540
>>544428678>Vortex>beating anythingThis was so obviously staged.
>>544428806The constant sound a rocket makes would give any target a pretty good idea of what direction the bolt is coming from, it would additionally negate any sound suppression advantage from a theoretically subsonic bolt.The rocket would also likely make it easy to track by sight akin to a tracer bullet. I suppose one could possibly engineer specialist fuel that provides adequate propulsion but gives off little light specifically for sniper bolts, I don't believe the sound problem could be fixed.Bolts also ignite their rocket charge immediately upon exiting the barrel, and they need to to keep the bolt stable, bolters have very short barrels relatively speaking and I'm not sure they're even rifled. The conventional charge is just there to get it out of the barrel and give it enough velocity to penetrate at point blank range.The las snipers and needle snipers that scouts already use seem to me much better suited to the role than actual bolters.
>>544424102>this car sucks!>blames it on the driver
>heroic thammer perk works on any charge aftershock>despite saying it only works on fully charged oneswhy can't saber create an accurate tooltip
>>544431796That's why I said long or extreme range. If you fire at say 1000m and the booster was set to only arm at 200m, then the sound profile would be different than a normal bolt shot at 1000m. Not sure if it maths out, but you would also theoretically get a second, louder burst of sound off the propellant igniting in the booster, possibly helping in disguising the location of the initial shot, making it sound like it came a lot closer than it actually did. Bolt snipers already have long barrels and it's nothing to add rifling for stabilization, or, have a kind of smart bullet that alters trajectory as needed. We already have this kind of tech irl.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_bullet
>>544432643The rocket charge would need to activate so close to the target to not give away the shooter's direction that you might as well not have a rocket charge.Guided bolts were handmade rarities even during the great crusade, you're not really getting supplied those for anything besides exceptional operations.Actual silenced bolts also just replace the rocket charge entirely.
>>544429981But does that mean you need to unlock the heroic bolter to use the skin?Because so far, the skins from up to relic aren't usable on heroic, and vice versa. So it's a weird choice.
>>544428051decap is a bad mission and anyone that likes it has bad opinions
>>544358339Recertifying this build. While it lacks explosive burst damage like with block power axe or chain sword, the heroic chain sword and fast grapple cooldown makes it viable.Its not bad, I don't hate it. I just wish the heroic chain sword, and knife for that matter, were block or fencing. Balance will get you frame trapped a lot.
>>544434235But does that mean you need to unlock the heroic bolter to use the skin?No no, not at all. Heroic bolter will be its own thing still, with no additional skins for it. The RG skin is for all the tiers below heroic.
>weekly's impossible to play with randoms>"Just play the weekly solo, bro.">have to play with bots instead>bots don't draw any agro>don't do any damage>don't try to stop reinforcement calls>don't activate terminals>don't help plug trygon holes>don't prioritize sweeping spores>don't hunt biovores>don't dodge grabs>ignore thropes entirely>game still spawns enemies like there's more than a single guy that can draw any agro or get any kills>either drown in oceans of multiple types of projectiles constantly and undodgeably focused on you>or oceans of melee combos from different enemy types forcing you to permanently parry until you take guaranteed hits from unparryablesAlready bought everything from the store, and I'm about to max out on doritos anyway.Plus there'll definitely be like two more weeklies before patch 11.Dumb slavs need to actually play hard strats, and play them with bots, cause they clearly don't.
>>544434623Man that's shit. It's kinda stupid you can't use skins as you will for the heroic weapons. Makes no sense.
>>544435065randoms don't do any of that either kek
And while I am here;Teclis Blue (left) or Night Lords Blue (right) for World Eaters?
>>544435065>don't try to stop reinforcement calls>don't activate terminals>don't help plug trygon holes>don't prioritize sweeping spores>don't hunt biovores>don't dodge grabs>ignore thropes entirely Sounds like most players honestly.Anyway try running it as
>>544435065just pick block power fist bulwark and facetank everything
>>544435501right looks better regardless of accuracy
>>544435065>>544435508Fuck meTry running it as flammer tactical* It'll do the trick.>>544435501Ultramar Blue. The faded look is better.Also change the main colour to one of the bone white colours for maximum weathered look.
>>544435501i prefer left
>>544435501Right is more vibrant and thus works nice with everything. So the right one.
>>544435065Bots get focused by enemies all the time, it's literally an impossible modifier with bots.
>>544436003you do not take damage if bots take damage. i did it first try. you basically just have 100% increased health.
>>544436003Then why does it feel like the spawn rate's suddenly exactly 3x higher?
>>544435681Nah either bone doesnt look right. You might be right about the more faded blue though. GW's official paint tutoral makes it look more faded but none of saber's colors match.
>>544436497probably because the bots don't deal any damage so they don't thin out the horde at all
>>544435335If devs treat weapons as sidegrades, then I'm open to the possibility they're retarded enough to block their skins from being applied to other weapons and vice versa. All because "sidegrades" do not follow the same tree progression (even though they obviously do) so you shouldn't be allowed to mix them. Saber is all about no fun allowed, I mean look at >>544435065It took them over a year to magnanimously touch the subject of customization, after a lot of pushback even coming from their discord echo chamber. Guess how long we're gonna wait for heroic skins in the general pool of skins.
>>544437273So far none of the heroic weapons conflict with skins I wanna use, but now with this, it definitely will since the only reason to take bolt pistol is to take heroic.
>all these anons struggling when they can just the modding trick to farm the easy weekly over and over
>>544436195Bots gave you damage the last time I played this modifier with bots.
>>544438226would explain the 1417 i took lmao. but i dont think it transfers, i just ate a lot.
>>544437895>Subjecting yourself to suffering through poorly designed modifiers>not giving yourself the currency avoiding the ordeal and being to enjoy regular ops
>>544436680Nah I agree, I tried 2 times with bots, you get wave after wave of extremis wilth almost no breaks in between, never happened in any of the multiplayer tries.
>>544437494Yeah, I wanted to get that sweet xenophase skin and I can't. My disappointment is immeasurable and my customization experience is ruined.
>>544438456how many extremis were killed in your multiplayer tries, assuming it was done to completion? i had 14 in my solo + bots run.
>>544430240>>544429209Might be a recency bias thingOr a few people with a lot of forum good boy points adding weight
>>544429209It's the second beast chaos mission in the gameI do think it's a lot of recency bias, but I'd still rank it above about a third of the missions.Honestly the new mission might end up the best one depending on how it goes with the boss.
>>544437895>>544438420I refuse to fall to Chaos temptations.I will forge myself in the fires of adversity and legitimately beat every Hard Weekly.I solo'd this week's though. Only took one attempt.
>>544429427Imagine the head
>>544439026Not that many, in my best try where we got the trygon down to 10% we had like 3 extremis waves.
>>544439715>Winged Tyranid PrimesHopefully they don't pull the fucking Demon's Souls Maneater shit where they're just flying around for 70% of the fight.
>>544402256>https://streamable.com/3fvpjc>>544399604why do they keep pushing for burst fire? is this for console players who cant aim or click fast?
Why do they keep making hidden modifiers in stratagems, why are they so fucking retarded
>>544353668this looks absolutely awful, even if it did 500% damage the sprint attack animation is way better since they all magnetically glue you to the nearest enemy, you would just hit air with this
>>544435065It's impossible with randoms but trivial with tactical.
The majority of this game's difficulty is just from shit game design that varies in intensity depending on your class, the second leading fabricator of "difficulty" is teammates that lose duels to lone bonesword warriors, about 10% is actual difficulty.
>>544439827SameWhat'd you run? I ran tactical pyroblaster.
>>544444372I lose duels to Chaos Spawn frequently.
>>544445086Bulwark with Power Sword and HPBThen switched to Power Fist and Plasma Pistol for the Trygon.A neurothrope spawn at the very end nearly ended the run because I got stunlocked by the barrier AOE and a ravener combo. Managed to get by because of the For the Emperor buff letting me do some reliable damage on the neuro.Map was absolutely barren on relics or stimms. Just having the heal banner to heal white health helped me a lot. >>544352997
>>544445126i solo hard stratsi also sometimes get dumpstered by a pack of spawns when farming normal strats
>>544445126Everyone does. They're bullshit to fight.
>>544445126Chaos spawn movesets are fit for an unusually difficult extremis, not some random majoris.
>>544430240>cool transition as you move from the normal plane to the surreal>visually striking backdrop with the chaos energies and the crumbling buildings>tentacles dragging you through the warp>getting to punch the psykers to progress>going up against some ancient horror that literally gets off its very own skull throne to fucking fight youcancer fight and power cell carrying aside the stage is FAR cooler than anything that happens in Obelisk or Exfiltration or Fall of Atreus
>>544414930No it isn't.
>nids are the melee faction>most dangerous enemies are ranged>thousand sons are the ranged faction>most dangerous enemies are melee
>>544445126Those fuckers have the weirdest behaviors. I don't know when the hell they're going to attack. Sometimes they just stand there. Sometimes they run a train on my ass with never ending chaining attacks.
Protip: If everyone is down and you're the host.... kick someone. The player will be removed from game and a bot with full life will replace them to pick you up.
>>544449797it's pretty funny when a party wipes and u leave to give the party a chance with a fresh bot, and u end up rejoining right after
just got kicked off the server. fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Why can't these guys just chill the fuck out and focus on fucking up the Nids?
>>544448440But those are the dealbreakers Anon. >cancer boss fightThe most crucial aspect of any mission essentially.>power cell carryingNot the first op to have it, sure, but it purposefully slows down everything so that Mr. Player can't clear a section quickly.The map has nice visuals, yeah, but they only serve as the background for gameplay, regardless of how breathtaking they are. Not to mention it's a chaos so it already starts with negative points. Even those little things you point out don't make up for all its shortcomings.
>>544439284To be honest, Vortex wouldn't be that bad if the final boss wasn't like playing Touhou just without the precise and responsive controls.
>>544450457Are you trying to convince me or yourself? Because the former is not going to happen.
>>544450457when are we gonna get an objective this SOVL?
>>544450703Wasn't trying to, I just tell it like it is. The map looks nice but plays horribly, in no small part due to boss fight and forced pit stops. But since you brought up trying to get someone to their side, we can just agree to disagree and that would be cool too.
>>544435065>be me playing weekly with bots>bots draw lots of aggro, especially Extremis>bots annihilate thropes>make reviving me the one time I went down a priority>kept drawing aggro from the Trygon>didn't hover up heals>regained all their hp after a while out of combat>didn't waste time trying to kill everything on screen like they were actual bots and would run ahead with me to choke pointsMaybe you just suck? Maybe they hate you?
>>544448627First it was because everyone sucks their dick, implying they think they're doing all right. Then it was because they want to increase sales, which also doesn't make any sense because better game = more sales, shittier game that pisses off everyone means they don't get sales from people telling their friends. Them just being retarded is in fact, different.
>>544453043I remember that back when I started bots would revive me pretty quick, but later they stopped (and also, the op would end with a defeat if they did not pick me up immediately).
>>544453513No that doesn't imply anything about their thinking. That implies the playerbase are weak minded pussies who do not speak up about things that are not all right and would thank the devs for spitting in their mouths. The devs still need to keep players playing and talking about the game though.>better game = more salesWouldn't it be nice if that was how it worked. Then this game or Horizon Zero Dawn or Assassin's Creed Valhalla would've barely reached a million.
>>544455304>Wouldn't it be nice if that was how it workedNTA, but that's how it used to work once. Then everything went to shit once normalfags started using computers.
>>544455304>doesn't imply anything about their thinkingHow would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning? Why would you bring it up if it doesn't mean anything?
>>544455935It doesn't mean anything? I literally just explained to you what it means. Did you finish grade school?
>>544456101I'm literally quoting you, dumbfuck. You say it doesn't imply anything on Saber's part, but it does on the fanbase's, as if the 2 are mutually exclusive. If the fans are retarded and give Saber bad feedback, then Saber would think they're doing a decent job because of the them. Can you add 2+2?
>>544389392the flesh is weak brother>>544395085My schizo theory is they removed draigo so he can get a snazzy new grand master model when you get your refresh in 11th.And yeh freehanding purity seal texts is a bitch so i use transfers as often as i can for them.
>>544426970It's a pointless pro-skub vs anti-skub bullshit internet flamewar being perpetuated by impassioned retards. It makes no difference to you what defence type a player is using if they're competent and can hold their own. I've carried with balanced for fucks sake.
>>544428678They really need to fucking rework Chaos completely. What can even be done to make them as fun as the Tyranids to fight?
>>544428678>Reliquary and Obelisk not even breaking 100K
>>544440154What?
>year 40000-37975>mother fucking braindead players still don't know you can't proceeded forward if there's a boss
>>544459285The quote part is all right. You being too stupid to understand basic words and hence following it up with what you think the quote implied, is another matter entirely. Because what you typed out had fuckall to do with the sentence. Then I had to explain this to your uneducated ass, and then you STILL somehow manage to type something as incredibly fucking asinine as the sentence "doesn't mean anything".>Saber would think they're doing a decent job because of the themCan you believe there might be other ways to gauge your game's market performance than simply asking a bunch of mindless consumers?
>>544461019they need to add fuck massive green fire walls like in vermintide 2
>>544389568i have all the skins bro, its not that hard
>>544461468I've discovered quite a few people here are pretty bad at the PvP. I don't know how, because the average player in those lobbies is retarded, but yeah.
>>544461057Okay, retard.
>>544439898>not the handjobs
>>544461019We ran ahead to the Imperial guard post in Inferno with a carni alive and it bugged the mission.
>>544464071>I got blown the fuck out and have nothing of worth left to say but I must have the last word anyway!Shit like this always makes me wonder how much of this site's userbase is in the 11-15 age range.
>>544438420How does one learn this power?
>>544462273I just blasted hellbrought onslaught when it came out, i find the other game modes dont last long enough for you to get the required kills
I don't want to do stratagems anymore....
When you have to do the same objective multiple times (e.g. planting bombs on Decapitation, carrying power cells on Vortex, keeping the crane going on Fall of Atreus, matching symbols on Reliquary etc.), bots should do them as well but always let each player do at least one.
>>544467568Can't have thatIf bots were smarter, no one would play multiplayer!No team perks, automatic wipe when you die, can't pick their weapons, no perks, they barely use their skills, can't interact with the environment, can't issue them commands
>Try using something that's not the damage stalker on sniper>every single bolt weapon available to the sniper feels like shit to use
>>544468592Heroic bolt sniper soon.
>watching eceleb video>mentions that GW himself has cockblocked chaos customization in PVEYou fags hear anything about this anywhere?
>>544464907Okay, retard.
>>544469137No, and that makes zero sense considering you can use Chaos symbols.
>>544469417>GW>SenseI'm asking here because I'd not seen any posts about such a thing before, so the eceleb in question saying this shit was out of nowhere.
This stratagem was very stressful
>>544470478I'm amazed you guys are clearing it with other people. Kudos.
>>544469137No.>>544469417Maybe those are meant for repping 30k pre-traitor chapters only.
>>544461019Usually it's the opposite issue where people would rather stay behind to fight a pair of zoanthropes, a biovore and a lictor instead of just fucking moving on.
>>544460314>What can even be done to make them as fun as the Tyranids to fight?simple actually, delete the chaos spawn from the game and add a mechanic that killing a rubric marine or disk tzaangor causes a "morale loss" in the trash mobs and they flee from players not fighting back so that you can shoot them or melee them without worry
>>544460314Lesser Sorcerors are now regular Majoris.When you kill a Sorcerer, it makes all of the Thousand Son marines inert.
>>544471309>all those downsI don't think there were other people there.
>>544483020But make them teleport more.
Depending on where you shoot the terminator head, it may not count as a head shot despite getting the head shot marker. I might try the heroic knife again one day but idk. Getting frame trapped by spawn sounds less fun than they already are.
>>544484990>this new informationOh my fucking Emperor, bro. So what is it? Like, if you shoot them in the back of the head it doesn't count or something? I also thought something fishy was going on because the TTK seem to be off by just a little bit at times.
>>544461019no shit 80% of the playerbase never goes above ruthless, let alone to absolute to learn that you can't just outspeed a boss
SOXL chads are we hanging in there tomorrow? After the last few days pumping I'm getting nervous.That one anon who is up over $1M if it dumps 10% in a day that is over $100,000 gone bro... I never planned for this moment
>>544464870Happened to me too and I was mad. Was working with bots and I figure>theoretical: we are vastly outnumbered and this area provides too many flanking routes >practical: the gate of the Guard post is enclosed with one entry point>funnel the Nidders in and quickly pick off the Majoris and Minoris as they advance ahead of the CarnifexWell, I fought like crazy to kill everything before it showed up and the plan worked out... until the Carnifex just decided to take the day off. I waited for about 10 minutes.
>>544485201IDK dude. All i konw is i wasnt refunding ammo on the heroic sniper despite hitting them in the head. Another reason to never play chaos missions.
>>544255460>no self sustain>no real damage resist>your nuke is on a long cooldown>sometimes your nuke doesn't kill enough/it doesn't count the enemies so you are actually stuck with the cooldown>outside of your nuke, your melee damage is worse than Bulwark and Tactical and on par with a vanguard (you know, the class with an actual gun)>mobility is worse than vanguad and bulwark >your mobility fucks you out of your damage>no actual gunI like assault and can do well with it, but I also do things much easier and more effective as any other class, and I do melee much better as a bulwark.
Who's your Primarch wife and how does she abuse you?>be doing thing Petra has done before>she's impressed by your skill>try to teach her>she doesn't quite get it>say "practice makes perfect">she gets tense and angry>What would you know about perfect you mortal piece of shit?>try to say you didn't mean anything by it, just that it'll take some time to get on your level>"You think you're better me?">N-no>She's not hearing a thing you say>Picks you up by the throat>Says you aren't shit>She's conquered worlds>She's a weapon, powerful beyond belief>She squeezes>"Hurts" doesn't begin to describe the feeling of your neck being crushed in an industrial vise >The only thing that makes her stop is when you stop struggling>She drops you>You realize you've only got one option and do nothing but apologize>"I'm sorry." every time she tries to talk to you.>You find any reason to be away from her>You sneak into bed when you think she's asleep>Some time passes, and you feel her roll over and hug you close>Something wet hits your cheek>She's doing something you know better than to ever admit you knew happened>You don't want a repeat of today>You pretend to be asleep>She pretends to believe you>The next few hours are spent listening to her apologize>She's sorry for how she's treated you>She wishes she wasn't this way>She promises to be better>You know it'll last for a couple of weeks at best before her insecurities eat away at her again>She cries>Harder and harder>Your face is soaked>You pretend to sleep>Eventually, she really does fall asleep>You turn over, and cradle her head to your chest>In the morning, she's already awake, but she's still there in your arms>You lie there for a few minutes>"Are you going to let go? I have more important things to do than be a teddy bear for a grown man.">You don't.>"I never will, my love.">She scoffs>You spend the rest of the day holding her head, ignoring the wetness on your chest\That's all folks.
>>544487025Gay
>>544487984Okay, where's your fanfiction, brother? Please, enlighten us as to what life is like with your Primarchfu.
>>544484990>despite getting the head shot marker.the WHAT
>>544489879>he's never gotten a head shot in 1k hours of Space Marine 2Brother...
Now the most important question of all.Which battle brother has the best "For the Emporer!"?For me, it's Valius
>>544489879the little double X means you got a headshot
bolt pistol and heroic chainsword is good now?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm7pPFxGj08
>>544498546Does it still have that moronic finisher where marine pushes the sword with his hand despite the heroic CS being dual sided though?
>>544493354I agree. Quartus is close second
>>544487025My Primarchfu is Fulgrim, I can change her so she doesn't fall to Slaanesh
>>544490008>>544495081
>>544501976how the fuck did you not notice you get a different hitmarker when you're shooting the head?
>>544502113why the fuck would i look at the hitmarker? It's always in the middle of the screen. I look at the enemy I'm shooting.
>>544502271Because the enemy you're shooting is also in the middle of your screen
>Vortex>ReliquaryAnother 1/3 daily day.
>>544502484well technically, but by the time i started shooting i'm no looking at him, i'm looking around for possible danger.in my defense, i know about the shield marker, so i'm just half retarded.
>>544501976For me it was the fact that UI has an armor indicator for your teammates. My life has never been the same since.
>>544503008It's not a very good one though. It's armor = yes or armor = no with no nuance.
>>544503008Wait it does? I only knew if someone had no armor by if they had sparks coming off of them. What's the UI indicator?
Tactical is fucking stupid. I don't even need auspex and I can aim like shit and still roll through warriors with the stalker. Why do the other bolters have to be such shit.
>>544504296The grey boundary around their username. Off = no armor.
>>544504068Yeah, it's very barebones and not thought out, but I won't lie I wasn't surprised when I found out about it.>>544504296When the frame around class icon is gone it means your teammate has no armor. When it's visible it means they have armor, but you have no way of knowing how much of it, so they could have half of one bar or full armor and the frame appears the same way for both conditions.
>>544504481>Accuracy Bolt Rifle>Stalker Bolt Rifle>Bolt Carbine>Marksman Bolt Carbine>Plasma Incinerator>Pyreblaster>Heavy Bolt Pistol>Plasma PistolTactical just wins in terms of arsenal.
>>544504481The Stalker is its best weapon
>>544504637>>544504623Holy shit I never noticed that.
what if we made a modifier that requires the whole team to stick to each other like glue and made it impossible for any single member of the team to carry any extra weightbrilliant pavlovoslov ship it
>>544506184Tactical really shouldn't have better ammunition sustain and ranged damage without even having to use his class ability than a heavy bolter heavy.I hate saber.
>>544504068you should be able to extrapolate accordingly
>>544509298Tactical is alright, it's the Heavy who has shit ammo economy outside of the heavy bolterThe extra supplies modifier should be the default for all of Heavy's guns, including pistols and the Extremis execute should be changed into Emperor's Vengeance
>>544509512>outside of the heavy bolterheavy plasma players be like
>>544511193The worst ammo economy in the game.
>>544511369that award goes to multi meltaalso heavy plasma has the best ammo economy in the game if you're hitting multiple targets
>started reading horus rising>luna wolves deployed 300 fucking marines in full gear, with terminators included, just to assrape a couple thousand rebels on a post-compliance world>iterators are flown in after to see the aftermath and to become traumatized>one stacy gets so traumatized by the jubal episode that it kickstarts her fanatical belief in the emperorHoly balls the overkill and writing IS GOOD. Imagine a series based on this book
>>544512230>if
>>544512230they both have shit ammo economyat least the multimelta can recover 1 (just one) from nuking 7 little shits at once and from executing a majoris every 60 seconds but you're taking the inferior perk route
>>544513302yeah, most of the time you should be firing into blobsif it's one or two (sub extremis) targets just pull out your plasma pistol and/or start stomping/fishing gun strikes
>>544513574>should>if
>>544515029yeah, /if/ you don't suck, it /shouldn't/ suck. groundbreaking stuff i know
>>544498546>bolt pistol and heroic chainsword is good now?Yes. >>544434238Though I would say heroic chain sword needs like 15-20% more damage to be top tier, it is at least usable now.Firepower variant bolt pistol is tied with firepower variant heavy bolt pistol for gunstrike damage and can actually kill majoris before reloading now.
>>544513298>Garviel is literally thinking pic related while talking to Mersadie Oliton within the first chapter
Something's not quite right with this picture.
So I'm seeing most feedback saying Power Axe is now second only to the Power Fist in the current PTS.
>>544493354Valius almost comes close to DoW level voice acting with that For the Emperor
>>544499157Of course it does, why would they modify executions
>>544521360They buffed overhead strike while also making it a built-in followup to power wave. What else did they do aside from letting block enter power stance?Is it just because perfect block more or less acts like a parry AND builds adrenaline stacks?
>>544523023Every melee weapon has a hidden stat modifier that buffs Bulwark's shield damage, PA buffs it the hardest.They added a second tree split further down the line that allows you to maximize the shit out of backstep power wave.Then you have the whole block stacks + power wave combo + block's general massive damage.The result is block axe can nuke Extremis into near death in just one backstep.
>>544523197Does the max block stack explosion deal AOE damage now?I think my big issue with PA is how badly it deals with mobs, spinning strike's animations are too damn long.
>>544523702>Does the max block stack explosion deal AOE damage now?Yeah that was fixed in Patch 10.
>>544523792Axe might be the first block weapon I bother to learn.
>>544518072Low res floor textures giving the appearance as if dudes are floating?
when's patch 11 for REAL server chads
>>544467004>Open game>Start mission>Immediately get bored and alt+f4My service is not eternal..
>>544257803You just know some heretic niggers are gonna do a lil trollin
>>544527512in a month
>>544262727If you want to get everything, then you'll need more than 1000 accolades. There are 6 new heroic weapons and 6 new heroic armour pieces coming out in Patch 11.
>>544527512Around December 16th
>>544528595Good thing I have a CheatHappens trainer for that, I'm not grinding weekly stratagems.
>>544257803why is your text ai generated
>>544528780>grindingthey're weekly, anon
>>544528408>>544528596both false, it's nov 12 according to the memo on discord
>>544528780I also hate when developers don't respect my time and force me into bullshit grind in 50 different modes, but I personally like to CE the values myself whenever possible rather than paying for the trainer. But I do get how your way makes things easier. I wouldn't do THAT, but I get it.
>>544529108My uncle works at Saber and he confirmed it's on new year's.
>>544529223I don't know the values of accolades in CheatEngine so I paypigged for a trainer.CheatEngine tables have been severely monetized with paywalls, there's only a handful out there that are free without bullshit.
>>544529108I'm hoping the customization update will be great, but I'm expecting to be disappointed. In fact, I don't even think we're getting it this year. At least we have mods.
>>544529841Out of curiosity, since I've only ever used CE for SM2. Do you purchase individual trainer for a game or it's an entire subscription? And do they stop working once your sub ends? I was always interested how these payment schemes worked with CH.
>>544530101I don't cheat alot so I only subbed to a monthly subscription that I ended months ago.Since Saber doesn't add accolade stuff that much I only need to sub again whenever they put out an update, they have a lifetime pass but it's too expensive for me.
>>544530325I understand and thanks for explaining that nuance. And I'm not judging, especially when it's not griefing or abusing cheats in PvP. Besides it's not like unlocking something via trainer hurts anyone. If the game has grind where it's not needed than I call bullshit on its creators who like I said don't value my time.Btw, the values aren't that difficult to find actually, because they're tied to requisition points. There's a bit of trickery in it too, but nothing you couldn't handle if you've used CE before.
>>544530975The table from Fearlessrevolution is a sham and the guy posting tables there is a paypig tablemaker redirecting tables to his own shady looking site.There are no PvP modifiers in the CH trainer, the most bullshit one you can do is be invulnerable in a solo campaign. There aren't even cheats for Operations because the table makers insist you will get rekt for real by Saber and EAC.The table is only for adding maxing out gun experience, resources and class levels for Operations outside of OP campaign-only stuff.
was great responsibility just made as a roundabout way of doing a solo play modifier in the same way the class nerf modifiers are a roundabout way of making those classes unplayable as modifiers?
>>544533339Saber's spaghetti code, they're going to fix that by the next major update.
what class for the normal vortex strategem? heroic plasma heavy? melta vanguard? afk bulwark? or block assault just for the lulz?
>>544528780>>544529223>>544529841>>544530101The Emperor sees your transgressions. Repent.
The solo weekly hard strat can be broken by Tactical or any Bulwark build, I did it with the traditional shock AoE Bulwark since I refuse to be a dirty Shieldnigger who doesn't contribute to his allies and rush ahead of everyone spawning enemies.I prefer the tried and tested parry + shock and everything dies around me over Shieldniggering.
>>544535095Get lost Leandros. Don't you have any serfs to molest?
>>544534180so I joined a public /sm2g/ lobby apparently
is this affected by the damage cap?
they should reuse those chaos skins for a pve mission where the thousand snus opened a portal that brought in warbands from other chaos factionsinstead of being braindead automatons with shit ai, have these other chaos space marines act like bots or ai human players with movement, melee, shooting behind cover, etc.would be a nice change from rubricniggers just standing attacking you one at a time, imagine alpha legion snipers actually using stealth and/or hiding far behind and then shooting at youa death guard space marine who has a shitton of health and walks slowly but carries a shield like a bulwark black legion acting like stupid bots and shooting back, nightlord raptors flying and crashing down on you and your other buddies, world eaters mass charging at melee towards youthen you'd find multiple iron losers with heavy weaponry shooting from behind everyone elsemake it short like inferno/decap to compensate for the added difficulty, extremis and terminus spawns are still a thing with thousand sons but no more tzaangors, little traitor guardsmen and chaos spawnsjust a bunch of traitor chaos space marines and 1-2 helbrutes, final area is a portal that spawns more chaos space marines and thousand sons terminators; have the area be similar to obelisk's final area with a sorcerer keeping the portal open
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/289-october-community-update?page=1https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/289-october-community-update?page=1https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/289-october-community-update?page=1
>>544529108>both falsePatch 11.0 - Reclamation Update is planned for the end of November, stay tuned for the precise release date.get gud scrub
>>544537219inb4 saber censors the filenames
>>544537447yeah, I already talked to hylia about that. they posted the outdated copy. expect an update in a few minutes. as i said, it should be two weeks. cheerio
>>544537219uh ohdash assault still has a chance to come to fruition
>>544537535the good guy was funny
>>544537219FUCK YOUR VAGUENESSI WANT NEW MELEES FOR TACTICAL AIIIIEEEEE
>we will not let you exchange requisition points for accolade points :)
>>544538182Give knife to assault then the fucking white scar champion can't use his own weapon skins
>>544539029how do you feel about the fact there are more iron hands fans itt?
>>544537219Dmitry Grigorenko addresses some of the MOST pressing questions on the forums:Boy oh boy, am I in for some amazing insight...
>>544537018yes, but damage cap is removed currently on the PTS
>>544539847Cyк миний Дик
>>544537206That'd be a sick idea, Anon. Except they'd be creating nearly a new faction's worth of new enemy types for only one operation out of the ten going on eleven we have now.Unless you're planning on these new enemies being thrown into the spawn mix with the thousand sons on every chaos op, eliminating what's special about your op centered around opening a portal for all the pvp warbands instead. Not to mention then they'd have to compensate for chaos doubling its roster overnight and make a similar kind of operation with a shit load of new enemy types for nids too, except nids don't have sub factions as diverse as chaos iirc. They'd also have to make those assets from scratch.
>>544537206You will have shitters and noobs complain about AL snipers and DG Bulwarks even if they're bots. In PvP there is no indicator that you're being sniped outside of you losing most if not all of your armour or you get oneshotted with an enemy Las Fusil. With traitor guardsmen there is a long delay between their targeting laser and them shooting at you.With DG Bulwarks they'd be a pain in the ass to kill since only ground pound Assaults can whack them instantly and shooting directly at them never works. Then you have Heavy IWs, you'll also have shitters and noobs complaining about bots using Iron Halo and dumping rounds in your direction. They'd be a nightmare in stratagems.
>>544537018It is currentlyIt won't be after 11.0 releaseshttps://youtu.be/C-GHgAWouwoI bet with an auspex on top this could genuinely one-tap terminus enemies
>>544537219Still no word on completely removing EXP gain on Hard Strategems to stop unprepared shitters from joining up.Not even a difficulty gate or level cap.
>>544544770that's a feature. you WILL carry or you will play offline.
>>544544770even without low levels trying to go past wave 5 and not have them spend like shit is cbt glad I already have the helmet
>>544537206Just make it an alternate siege map where you play as CSM and port the code over from the bots you can summon. Otherwise you're going to be suddenly dealing with retards who don't know how to get around Heavy's halo or pulling the Bulwark in one direction so someone else can shoot them without the shield blocking it
>>544502484OK, so this one means headshot, then what does that double + mean?
>>544545347Siege's little terminal shop point economy thing really does highlight how shitty some players are.>I buy one relic>fill up on med kits from around the map>save up like 800+ points by the terminus wave>keep my same two med kits and relic from wave 1 through wave 10>save +1.5k by then>vs pub shitters>buying shit every wave>buying temporary overkill AI marines first 5 waves>buying ammo caches when they're a melee class and I have infinite ammo>losing any hp in the first 5 waves>let alone shit loads>wasting last points on med kits>I end up having to dip into my savings to buy them more med kits>they live paycheck to paycheck with their points through wave 15>dedicating their pennies to med kits they can't afford nearly enough of>meanwhile I would have 2k by then if they didn't mooch off me
>>544547346you guys buy medkits for your shitters?
>>544537206That'd be sick. I can't remember the game, but I'm pretty sure they implemented bot AI that was made using actual player data. It'd be cool, which is why it's never happening. Great idea, Saber would tell you to get the fuck out if you tried to apply.
>>544537219>That's it for this month :-)>no customization update, again
>>544547306Red means kill.
>>544547306I made this just to help you.
>>544548164>no customization updateBut it there was customization update. You can now mix chaos armor in pvp
>>544537219>assault dash isnt finalCan they at least be specific? Sounds like they're going to keep it as is and just add in the sfx thats missing.
>>544537206They should just make Chaos Undivided another enemy factionGeneric SM even have some animations, AI and movesets in campaign in last mission where you fight alongside them and against an illusion. Those could be easily reusedSpawns, Cultists and Helbrute could be reused as is in their roster evenIt's a small amount of work needed desu
>>544547738Forza supposedly did. On one hand, it would certainly explain why AI sometimes tries to ram you off the road, on the other hand, it cheats so much that you barely see any other player-like behaviours.
>>544551061They got a fuckton of negative feedback about the current version on both their own forums and Reddit, there's no way it's not going to be buffed to Shield Rush levels unless Saber are just that retarded and/or spiteful.
Assault final perks are so ass vanguard's shitty 5% heal would be a game changer on him
>>544551061mfw i read this as>>assaults death isnt final
>>544551974>50% more ranged damage after jump pack usageReally fucking niche if you needed to get the fuck out of dodge and shoot back. Still underwhelming, if significant in its damage boost. >liftoff deals damageHas probably killed more squadmates than enemies. Absolute garbage>refund if dodged successfullyMaybe only truly useful with Wings of Fire. Should really be reworked or have perks be combined so it can make room for a new one.
how about them spess mehreens
>>544552495It's time for death.
>>544549112not him but thanks
Block Power Axe against Absolute Terminator.
>>544554935Interesting but I'll be playing block chainsword on my sanguinny guard
>>544553687They're in spess
your performance is unsatisfactory.
Make jetpack dash free, make jump have dodge frames that trigger perks, let assault gunstrike in the air.
>>544557239ywn be Gadriel
>>544557239Mmm, no :3>Gives Bulwark another broken ability
>>544557239too much for a small indie company
>>544557239Nah we're just going to make Tactical's auspex on parry an inherent trait and give him a new perk.
>>544557239We're going to give Heavy a perk that doubles his firerate when he kills 5 enemies with a stomp instead
>>544557239Best Saber will do:Give Sniper ammo replenishment after he melee executes an Extremis enemyGive Bulwark a larger shock grenade radius by 5%Give Heavy 200% stomp damageGive Vanguard HP back for every grapple hook kill along with an ensuing AoE explosion that scales in difficulty that also automatically reloads all guns Give Tactical immunity to Krak grenades and Melta bombs as well as increasing grenade stocks by 1
>>544557239We've heard your complaints and that's why every tuesday 6p.m. to 7 p.m. assault will deal 5% more damage to minoris enemies
>>544561829based but the game would be greatly improved by simply removing vaniggers, asstards and snipefags.
>>544561967That seems a little too strong. Shorten it to 10 minutes and have it be 1/10th of a percent
>2 Terminus at onceThis will be the new Decapitation as long as it's not too long like Vortex or have puzzles like Chaos missions.That means no Neurothropes and Carnifexes showing up.
>>544561967>deal 5% more damage to minoris for ten seconds after mercury enters retrograde
>they purposedly didn't give the Mutalith Vortex beast a headshot modifier
>>544563258didn't they say they did?
>beat hard strat>don't even want to play normal strat because its just a boring solo run
This run was fucking terrible but heroic knife still blows. Actually getting a shadow stab off on a carnifex is basically impossible. You cant MAYBE get one charge off on an extremis, which will deal similar damage to 2 stack adrenaline surge on block which is far easier to proc and combo from.And getting perfect dodges is actually incredibly hard. So the knife needs either; 2 charges of 180% extra damage instead of 3 at 120%, OR 50% increased perfect dodge window.
>>544563468>And getting perfect dodges is actually incredibly hard.That's because Absolute reduces the perfect dodge window by like 50%, it's smaller than a Perfect Block.
>>544563867i hate these braindead fucking gopniks more than you can imagine
>>544563867Really?
>>544564272It does, but I got the number wrong. It's 35%.Stats between Lethal and Absolute are identical beyond enemy spawns.
>>544537219> answers the most milque toast easy ball questions despite people overwhelmingly wanting chaos pve or customisation newsThese fucking devs man, Also> still no news on techmarine or iron hands stuff
>>544564668>> still no news on techmarine or iron hands stuffWhy would there be? That's for the January community blog and PTS.
>>544565467>>544565467>>544565467Migrate
