Vinny Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2025-update.87198/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>544210751
Would you drink puddle punch?
Mina Ha....
>>544287749Might move it to optional but healbane is better acquired sooner then later and has good stats. It's skipable though for sure.
>>544287413RRRRRRISE UP
>>544287361I assume it's a strong drink.
>oracle 1I made it out of the metal ranks bros
The unfortunate truth you're going to have to accept
>>544288368Whoops wrong one
>>544288447Mina is far from honest, i don't care about everyone else
>>544288447put ivy and greytalon into desperation tier.probably pocket too.oh and also mina.
>>544288447Honesty is a meaningless term in competitive gaming and the reason I know this is because everyone who whines about it has a different definition
>>544288471I play a game of her evey few losses. It's literally free wins and I have an 80% WR on her vs upwards of Phantom 6. Character is underrated and people in pisslow are scared to admit she's still way too strong anywhere but "pro" play because their favorite streamer said she's shit. Literally solo carrys games. >carry can skip healing items in lane>high pressure and free souls off of denyiny turret >high map pressure the whole game>1 turret mogs enemy carries late
How do Billy players put their hands on the keyboard when they’re always dragging their knuckles everywhere
>>544288447>Billy>Honest
>>544288447victor is honest
>>544288447if you swapped everything in honest and honest and gay with dishonest this list would be somehow more believable
>>544289089The only really dishonest part of his kit is how his light melee function, buy rebuttal ands insta cuck him.
>>544289089he might unironically be the most honest character in the game
>>544288536>>544288651Show me your Mina winrates via in game screenshot>>544289098Absolutely not he needs to be removed with Kelvin entirely. Despite being nerfed serveral times since release he's still terrorizing games.
>>544288447>honest/dishonest mentionedKill yourself
>Shitlows that can't parry itt
>>544289585>only melee based character that gets a guaranteed meleeAbeams is for faggots who can't mind game.
>>544289250>Gets instant full refilled clips from any attacks when every other effect like that fills only flat amount of bullets>And lets give it healing as well>No, lets makeit +% hp so all anti-heal doesn't work on it>AoE stun that interupts almost everything and hits lightning fast>And it has charges because why not>Ult that works nothing like its described to and gets half of it's power from how bugged it is
>>544288662It comes from fighting games, so it literally spawned from a competitive scene. It means less in deadlock but is still funny none the less.
>>544289506>Despite being nerfed serveral times since release he's still terrorizing games.how's the weather down in seeker?
>>544288447>Mina, Paige, Paradox, Vinny, Holliday>All honestBros... I'm FUARKING HONESTKneel to me
>>544290071You can counter nearly all of that just by zoning him and cucking him from range.He has zero counterplay and zero range with his weapon. If he isn't directly on top of you then he's dealing zero damage.So skill issue.
>>544290150You tell me
>Holliday keeps trying to bounce up and punch me as VinnyEveryone who plays this character is psychotic
>>544289585I can't parry Billy's fast melee, ever. I know he is supposed to melee all the time to keep regening the ammo but I just can't find a tempo and waste my damn parry all the time. No such issue with Abrams/Calico, its always the damn goat.>>544290185>emotionally reliant on some anon's opinion>>lgbt
>>544290504>bounce, barrel and shoot the barrel as it passes by (You)Start runnin' pal
>>544290185Fucking image is killing me. Perfect reaction for a rare honest gamer
>>544290504Holliday is a good cop and like any good cop she does her duty helping criminals and ghosts bite the curb
>>544290721I can't believe holiday kneeled on the neck of the Troubadour until he couldn't breathe.
>>544290504I do it all the time. I jump pad as holliday fly up heavy melee throw a barrel at the wall near her on the way down and shoot it. I won't lie I feel like an anime protagonist when I arial kill Vindicta or GT as Holliday or Calico. >>544290560You need to count his bullets. I know it sounds retarded but listen to his gun while he's shooting you, they'll generally get into a rhythm and never want to reload manually. When he gets low throw out the parry.
>>544290891Fake news. Tests show he had a lethal dose of souls in his blood at the time.
>>544291041i'm still rank iii after 500h
>>544288141
uhhhhhhh
>>544291232Paige wants updates on his plush
>>544291207Initiate III?
>>544291232There should be one message and it's just Vyper asking if she can call him Lash
>Place a doorway>My teammates act like they aren't there
>>544291232Wow, Billy is literally me!
>>544291232is billy... dare i say... /our guy/, /dlg/?
>>544291696it should just be one message of Billy replying to himself saying the nword
>>544291207>>544291705
>>544291705Cart them in, it's the only way.
>shooting the owls as Mina>my bullets curve around the owls so I miss half my magFuck this stupid gun
>>544291890He's no ones guy
>>544288447How is bebop desperate for wins?His ult build is nukedHis bomb build is nukedHis gun build isn't "good", it's literally the only thing he has, and it gets outdamaged by any other gun It's not particularly better than any other build character that can also use their kit against youUnlike gun bebop, which makes the punch, bomb AND ult completely obsolete if you go gun
Characters I main = honestCharacters that counter the characters I main = dishonestSimple as
>>544293395stop using tekken lingua
>>544293071its so fucking dogshit and she'd actually be S+++ if it wasn't
>>544293203Doesn't matter hook characters are as dishonest as they come.
>>544293395>>544294062shut up honestroon
>>544294236>admits I'm honestI accept your concession
>>544294319"honest" is a bad thing. cope.
Trophy Collector is the most honest item there is.
Gun Hybrid Dynamo v1This build uses conditional gun buffs for early powerspike and gank potentialOpener>mystic burst>Kinetic dashPlay passive until stomp t2, use Kinetic to get close and stomp. Kinetic firerate will overlap with stomp damage amp for early powerspike. Order is dash-jump, stomp, mag dump, optional qe to reload. If your lanemate does literally anything its first bloodLane>cold front>close quarters>rapid rounds*>Extra charge> regen>swiftstriker*>Healing boosterAfter getting stomp to t2 you want to max your heal out to t3 so it doesnt cuck you*can go active reload instead, shot one bullet then hit the active reload buff to overlap your Kinetic buff. Is better than swiftstriker but adds mechanical difficulty Midgame>warpstone/maj leap/veilwalker Your choice, just need something to help land ults. Phantom strike is good but expensive and you want to be online early>point blank>burstfire(bloodtribute also good but will that makes 4 actives) You are using the opening combo to rape peopleLate game>refresher>healing tempoTotals: 9.6k gun, 9.6k vit, 9.6k spiritRest left open for flexibility but would reccomend stacking t4 greens, dynamo base hp w/ boon is 2nd highest so these will scale best at this stage, the gun falls off
>>544211183is bomb or the beam supposed to be dishonest here? The only stun/displacement tools Bebop has are the uppercut and hook >>544288447real
The problem with Drifter at higher ranks is that despite being the designated 1v1 character half the time you'll see an infernus or shiv or abrams alone and go "yeah I can't kill this guy". They'll sometimes chase YOU. But let's say you are online with your 3 maxed, it takes so long to get those kills that someone can rotate so easily to gank you back
>>544295334some characters will be strong in lower ranks and ass in higher ranks, that's just the way it will always be.
I just had a brain blast. What if Drifter's 2 had an upgrade that let his mark land on friendly units+objectives (like it could on release). Would make him way more mobile so he doesn't butt raped by people chasing him. So when you're running away you can throw a charge at your walker or just use it to rotate faster
>lost 8 matches in a row
gun holliday would be the new gun doorman cancer except shes too hard for the playerbase to play so we are safe
>>544295334There is just no 1v1 opportunity in the current state of game, every lane is a duo, boxes are too abundant to predict, outside of a sinners you will never see just one guy, 25m is also fuck huge range, it should be 15m for isoDoesn't help that a lot of people dont play max burst builds
>>544295937really now? doorman is cancer now? when billy and paige are out there?!
>>544295785I lost 8 matches playing with my brand new friend. To people 5 ranks lower than me. It raped my mmr I droped a full rank. Now I'm stomping every game and bored as hell. They need to remove the massive penalty for losing to bad players in just trying to teach my friend the game and show her shit as we go.
>>544295720Idk being able to run away doesnt seem like its address his core issue. Yamato cant really run either but she isnt burning in the never picked dumpster
you now remember enduring spirit
>>544296038how to cope with perpetually being the friend in this case
I got your honesty list right here
>>544296012>billy and paigeHave to play the same game as you. In mostly melee range to have any effect especially in lane.>DoormanHeadshots you by aiming in your general direction from 40 meters and hits you for 70 damage with 1 800 soul item. Has the second best escape tool in the game, has the best self set up in the game with a stun that isn't possible to dodge afterwards.
>>544291041why do you keep deleting the post brudda second time i seen you do this post now
>>544296170Yeah, and how boring it was. A single T1 green item that gave what, a whole 4 fucking spirit and 10% life steal? Its only notable existence was making Slowing Hex more expensive for basically no reason.
>>544296263You understand your friends like you and are playing with you because of it. When we lose I tell her it's not a big deal, when we win we celebrate simple as. I'd rather there be a ranked and unranked split or at least add turbo but shit happens.
>>544294458from the thumbnail I thought she was takin a shit
>Metro and Deathy shilling WardenUh...What?
>>544296309you do know yo u can just use counterspell on the ulti?are you seriously getting filtered by headshots? are you just standing there doing nothing?
>>544296012Doorman got some nerfs to his gun, the damage or even the stun setup wasn't the main issue, huge gun hitbox was.
>>544296038>herbro stop dating trans
I don't care what any tierlists say, playing Ivy feels god awful right now. It takes like 25 minutes of pure farming before you can get about 3 or 4 mandatory items (on top of your entire build) and are allowed to deal any damage whatsoever even though other heroes have been able to, and will still be able to one shot you throughout the entire, and I mean ENTIRE match. All you can do is push and immediately run away, probably wasting your ult in the process, but even then, if they happen to have one (1) focus lense, or a haze, or both then you're just dead, and brooling is a waste of time too because you bought gun items on a character that barely deals any damage and were forced by the devs to neglect your skills which scale with spirit. But EVEN THEN, doing a spirit build means you will only be able to be a support brool bot, praying that your teammates kill the enemies and push other lanes, and won't be able to get a full build until like minute 53+. I went from winning nearly 15 matches in a row to losing nearly as much or more in a row.>HURDURR PLAY A DIFFERENT HEROI'd advise the devs to try the same one day.
>>544296263Be happy because none of my friends want to play Deadlock while trying to get me to play some friendslop shit with them.
>>544296485>counterspell the ultIf he's in melee range after it ends you get carted into a wall you stupid nigger.>hurrdurr are you just standing stillDoorman is shooting the largest bullets in the game and anything even remotely near the top of your body gives him a headshot
>>544296737>If he's in melee range after it ends you get carted into a wall you stupid nigger.you are absolutely filtered, you are right doorman is most broken shit ever
>>544296451I'm sure they also like playing, we have tons of clips from fun stuff, I just fuck up a lot more than them. They also have thousands of hours in other MOBAs (mainly league), so I'm less familiar with the genre>>544296725I'll play with you, anon. But beware, for I suck
>>544296289i laffed
>>544297006thank you
>>544296646>troon obsessed mindYou couldn't pay me to interact with one. I also don't date anymore I'd rather die alone than be with a w*man >>544296725The most real shit ever. Most of my close friends always get obsessed with fotm friendslop then go back to playing MHW, Rivals, or league. They're always trying to jew 10$ out of me for some new lowpoly horror shit or whatever the fuck PEAK/ RV THERE YET etc is.
>>544296408such a nothing item it still baffles me
>>544296289>The Lash over BebopAlways the correct order
>>544296289are these references to something I'm not getting or just references to the silly voices in your head, anon?
>>544297346Reference to Fesh Pince
>>544296374what did the anon post?
I have no idea what I'm doing but I'm having fun
would it make sense for him to have long hair here
>>544296701Had some fun ivy matches before, then kept getting increasingly bad matches, just attributed those to me being bad (still true)
>Eshift has a 45 second cooldown nowFinally this retarded item is balanced.
>>544298250Hair no, some kind of tattered camo could work. But why a soldier? Its not Vic's character at all.
>>544298250only if you're a japanese game developer who romanticizes hierarchies and war
>>544298496>still hits 30s on victor since he builds CDRNothing really changed...
>Try to joke around with Abrams to break the ice>He threatens to punch you in the faceWhy are Ixians like this?
>>544298596>But why a soldier?i thought what if victor was a government project to make use of corpses
>>544299239no he's just a goofy zombo looking for a fun time
>>544299061he's self conscious that everyone knows he's into GILFs
>>544298052>i beat deadlock /dlg/With an attached image of Eternus 6 rank. It's the second time I've seen him post it and then delete it. I think I know who it is too
spirit viscious hits like a truck
>grey talon presses 1
>>544299946>warden tosses a bottle>warden tosses a bottle>warden tosses a bottle
>>544296701just play spirit ivyyou can still rat and split push like a cunt using torment pulse and optionally buying monster rounds as your only orange item
>THIS CITY IS MY PLAYGROUND
>start game>games sends me back to the lobby during the laning phase>can't rejoinUuuuuuh Valve please ?
>>544300616take your 2 day ban for "abandoning" goy
>play Lash>5 people on enemy team buy knockdown>they specifically hold onto it for me>they all chain knockdown me>can't do shit in a teamfightLove how one 3200 item can invalidate a whole character
>>544296038>>544296263You can qeue against bots you deserve hell for "learning" in public matchesEven lol has mandatory bot matches before you can play with peopleJust because you THINK you are above playing with bots, doesn't mean you are
>>544300857Your unstoppable sir?
>>544300857Lash is one of the few characters that can ult before knockdown hits, tf are youn talking aboutYou may get fucked with someone with specially good reflexes, but that's no different than getting hooking mid ult by a bebop or something like that
>>544300857Have you considered buying your counter to it?
maganis turrest scale from spirit to damage?
>>544301114>play against bots>they auto parry>they don't miss shots>they gain passive souls at outrageous rates to the point that being 30-0 you'll still be 10k souls behind themYea learned a lot there. We played some bot matches you stupid nigger it's entirely a waste of time.
>>544300857>Unstoppable
>>544301359this is english i think
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Best kill streak lines? Delivery on this one is kino hearing it from a teammate across the map especially.
>Le dishonest memeJust so you idiots get it straight, a dishonest character or strategy means the ability to prevent and avoid bad fights or situations when things don't go one's way.
>>544300857Uhh askshully that's five 3200 items
>>544301697I like it when the SF patron says>Oh Lash... What can't you do?
MM is getting fucking worse by the day, no way in hell you can test a new character without having some fucking otp haze or niggernus on the other side
>just so you idiots get it - irrelevant babbleas someone who plays fighting games seeing you faggots try and use the honesty meme for your own end is obnoxious, find another way to express your seeker grievances
>>544301464Are you seriously and unironically saying that you struggle with bots?Maybe you should play with bots, yeah
>>544299946>he just has to look at you for a split second>across the lane
>>544302173No retard I'm saying bots are worthless. Maybe YOU should be playing with them since your reading comprehension is so fucking low.
>>544302094Yea but your brown
>>544290150Kelvin has yet to lose a game in pro play
>>544302443absolutely not.
>>544301697>This is how it starts.Simple but has a lot of aura
>"Hmmm acktchually">Provides nothing of substance as a counterpoint
>Despite being nerfed serveral times since release he's still terrorizing games.but enough about mina and her abusers
>>544301697>Welcome to my world boys and girls
>>544302784Except Mina falls off a fucking cliff the moment end-game hits unless she's substantially ahead
>>544302609Nothing beats hearing this when you are playing Abrams and somehow manage to start turning a seemingly lost game.
>>544302094>as someone who plays fighting games blah blahlotta words for saying you're an autistic fag
>>544296038My experience is the opposite. I was Archon 6, she's Initiate 3, and when we queued we got into Alchemist 3-5 games. Guess what, we stomped 90% of those games and she DERANKED to Initiate 2 while I ranked up to Oracle 2. To me this is proof that ranks don't mean shit, the algorithm is literally broken
>>544302986>falls off a fucking cliffwish all shitna players would.
Mina's early game needs to be nerfed a little more. Otherwise imo she's just a good character and not OP.
I usually build this on Paradox, but this build kinda falls off in the endgame.Which items would be best to swap out and for what? Assume maybe 50k budget so an extra 12k, give or take.
>>544303160>>544302986YOU VILL PAY THE SLOWING HEX TAX
>>544302532That guy is swarthy af, not exactly disproving the brown allegations
>>544301697What did she mean by this
I know Mina is supposed to have blood going down the corner of her mouth but sometimes it looks like she had a stroke
Playing Doorman is very amusing to me, all those poor fools on the other side don't know Im turning this match into their personal hell, a maze they cannot escape. My mind bending tricks will leave them stunned (literally). Because I mastered the door and Im always 10 steps ahead of them.>Doorman is going to-No>Watch out he's about to-NoContrary to you I know what's going on, I can predict what "clever" "tricks" you want to pull on me. But don't give up you're here to entertain me and nothing else
>drifter build has bullet resist shredder on it>fuck around in training mode and notice that it only increases my damage by like 10-20 per shotI even gave the dummy a bunch of bullet resist items to see if it just doesn't scale well with 0% but no same thing, is there something I'm missing here or do people just not know this item kinda does nothing?
>>544303050She's not really a competitive player and I'm not a hyper carry player so it's pretty messy. I did stomp the games I played Haze, Miku and Mina, but anytime I played Paige Paradox or Pocket I lost with like a 5kda. Felt like some of those people were impossible to lift. Some how had 2 different bebops go 15 deaths deep I was astounded. Just realizing after writing this I won on characters who melt buildings alone and lost on ones that don't.
>>544303574Thought that was the bot being retarded but that's really what she says
>updated my journal
>>544303815On support drifter its probably good for your team mates. I'd try and find something better for solo ganking drifter though.
>>544303254So you build absolutely no sustain?Bebop can pull off using veil walker because he stays in the back range and hooks you, or runs straight towards melee to bomb you offWhat the fuck are you using it for in middle range
>>544304168why not just buy weakening/crippling headshot then?
>>544303815Drifter's gun is just fucking terrible. Resist shred is the best way to boost your damage, spirit or gun
>>544304262Did the build have splitshot too?Drifter with splitshot is pretty great at spreading debuffs I feel.
>Drifter's actual job doesn't exist above Seeker 2>everyone just builds him SupportThis character may as well not exist...Drifter complete redesign, when!?
>>544304170I use veil walker for the map movement>no sustainFortitude healing + maybe some healing for lane if it's a rough one. Usually I dick lane though
>>544303795i guess the drooling is appropriate considering how she plays
Why is Puddle Punch parryable but other melee skills aren't?
>>544304491Other melee skills only work in melee range. Puddle punch can be used from across a lane
>>544304445>Unironic best ult in the gameNo one wants this character to be good.
>>544303815Resistance shreds increase in value the more resistance an enemy has
>>544304470I can see how you are falling off if all your sustain requires you to not fight for a minute
>parry billy>doesn't worki seriously wanna uninstall and refund this piece of shit game
>>544304738I was talking more about damage-wise, than necessarily not being able to fight. I have a pretty good winrate, despite it all. I just want some ideas on how to transiiton into a more late-game oriented Paradox whenever it's reasonable.
>>544304859TIME FOR THE COMING OF THE GOAT
>>544304859>300 light melees in a row>press parry>Billy starts reloading
>>544305004Maybe build green items that actually gives you GUN sustain and GUN damage if you want to play GUN paradox you nigger
>>544305454People need to understand that billy unironically requires 200iq, you need to be able to read how your opponent is gonna react and keep them guessing. Am I gonna go for another light melee, or am I gonna reload? Am I actually heavy meleeing, or am feinting to get you to waste your parry?Its just so fucking fun. He's like a better designed abrams.
I tried green/purple support drifter and it worked...
>>544304491why he minin' doe
>>544305528Maybe you should watch your fucking mouth and come up with some concrete examples of items to replace instead of trying to be an internet tough guy, faggot
>>544305743>better designed AbramsBilly does get to have more than 2 abilities I guess.
>>544306296Abrams doesn't have any abilities until he fully upgrades one of them. Then he gets to have 1 ability, and another, and so on. But he can never have all 4 abilities be good because you max out on boons after the 2nd upgrade on the 4th skill
On Drifter's 3:Is each stack 4% weapon damage or 1%?
>>544306720ti dast ds
>>544303254>fortitude and veilwallerParadox isn't a one build hero btw. If their team is primarily tanky heros, heros who play on the ground, heros who death ball, you should be going bomb build. To fix your items you should be dropping one of those sustain greens and battlevest all together you replace them with either a 6300 that counters their primary damage(plate, spellbreaker) or a 3200 resist + counter spell or debuff remover. Either commit to the gun and drop tank buster for glass cannon, or remove 2 lower tier gun items for spirit burn + reverb late to one shot. These all only apply if you're AHEAD. If you eat shit early you swap to being a utility bot who builds 4 active items (slowing hex knockdown curse etc) and swaps enemys in spams out utility and dies.
>>544304575I've been melee'd and I can tell you that even melee isn't within melee range.
Not bad, not great either.
We brooled too much.
Tier 4s with no lower versions just feel bad to get honestly. Almost all of the strongest T4s are ones that upgrade from lower versions, there just aren't many that are worth saving up for 5+ minutes to buy.
>>544296038>what is having an alt
>>544307306>weyou did close to nothing
>>544304131This place is a zoomer emporium, noone will get the reference.
>>544307474Idk why this comment caught me off guard I spit water pn my ph*ne and it's all your fault. >>544307306He's right you're ass though at least go hit a tower
>>544304584>oh no, I can't see>nevermind that every good character is a close range gun hose/spirit aoe machine anyway
>>544307646>at least go hit a towerI have more objective damage than anyone else on my team. I agree that I could have done more, but lack of objective damage isn't my issue.
>>544303006that goes without saying since we are all here
>>544290279Ok what do I do if he has even remotely proper positioning?Or knows how to use his instant, lightning-fast gapcloser charge that also cc's you?
>>544305743this is all cool its true except valve netcode rewards being mexican and so even if you actually read his (faster then normal btw) light melee he just slaps you through parry half the time anyway
>>544305743Light melees are unreactable, it's not hard to not get parried
>>544306071>no cc>one damage spellThe only options are gun and rend build, I really dont think playing him support just for ult is worth
>>544305743Guesstimate when Billy is going to light parry takes more mental effort than just mindlessly doing it erratically
statistically billy has one of the highest dps guns in the game but whenever i actually play him and buy gun items it feels like a peashooter stillam i missing something
>>544308385He has pretty damn good spirit scaling on his 1, 2, and 4, so you don't really lose much damage build green/purple support items, and his gun still deals reasonable damage because of the stacks.
>>544296483Warden is a good anti-carry
>>544308613Its good but you basically need to be right in front of their face to deal any kind of damage.He's less of a proper gun carry and more of a bruiser who will unga bunga his way through everything.
>>544307346They should make shadowweave upgrade from slow bullets
What time do you guys do inhouses
>>544308836> you basically need to be right in front of their face to deal any kind of damage.he has 3 abilities that keep you in his face, one with charges
>>544308652Weirdly something like this would work very well on him>>544294550Minus the healing tempo of course
>devs release a 1v1 focused hyper-assassin>community decides he's a supportWhy are deadlockfags like this?
>>544309646no one decided anything you incredible dildo, play him however you want but objectively hes found the most success as an ultbot
>>544309646because he’s irrecoverably assThey immediately nerfed him when people didn’t even know how to counterplay and build, so he ended up becoming subpar
>>544309646think for yourself and play however you wantmetafags in an alpha are retarded
>>544288447>Dynamo>HonestHe is literally mo levels of braindead, especially after the back to back buffs.
>>544309646people in higher ranks don't get caught out alonehis bonuses don't even apply in a teamfight, but his ult is incredibleso yes the only way to play him outside of metal ranks is a support
>>544309646>ult is extremely powerful teamfight utilitygee i wonder why
>>544309646Because if you get out of shit mmr people are rarely alone and vulnerable, and their team mates will react fast to save them.At that point you lean on his utility or pick something else
Man I feel fucking useless past a certain point as Yamato, should I be building gun towards the end?
Calico is the original founder of the Baxter society, she just handed it over to gay talon, because she deserves better in life.
>>544310203Build melee at the late game
>>544310203maximise tankiness with kevlar and radiant regen or lifestrike
>>544310203Refresher with melee focus, if you were building spirit you can't easily transition into gun but shadow form will let you heavy melee without any risks.
>>544309881Just run 4 actives so his dead skill matters less, ezpzActives are better on average anyways
https://youtu.be/jy-br0ig0hMSong of Silk at it again
i guess im mcginnis main then
>>544301697https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Games/Deadlock/DeadlockAugust22025/Audio/warden_killstreak_mid_03.mp3
>>544307081>one build heroWell no hero is, should be, anyway. Also what's wrong with fortitude and veilwalker?So far, this build has a 100% winrate, so I don't strictly think it's bad. I'll try some of your suggestions, thanks.
>>544310827Usually its forty or memewalker, not both
>>544310646this is your video? i think this style of editing is really annoying and overdone
>>544310394>WE WUZ BAXTER SOCIETY AN SHITfuck off, gay talon is the rightful owner and creator and hes handing it down to the wh*te man when he dies(shiv)
>>544311013No it just popped on my main page when I refreshed. This guy has a few videos just spectating hackers and I think Song of Silk is in 2 of them
>>544311051shiv is italian and probably c*tholic
>>544310646>Says nigga>UHM, HECKING RACISM?Since when is Nigga racist? For all this guy knows this infernus player could be black.Hell even if he wasn't, its not racist until you use it in a racist way. If black people say it all time then so can you, equality baby.
>>544308991for some reason some real degens like to do it during like, your lunch break
>>544311149Is this entirely based on the fact that he looks like a greaser
>>544310646>aimbot on infernus>still several thousand souls behind
>>544311149its always, italians arent wh*te, until you want to take credit for civilization or cuisine, I know how you fuckers operate.
>>544311432Yeah that cheater is really that bad there's multiple videos of him acting like this and losing games
>>544307346>Almost all of the strongest T4s are ones that upgrade from lower versionsUnironically said by a man that just got out of eshift meta which followed a spirit burn meta which followed a meta when the best carries in the game unironically rushed siphon bullets, and is probably gonna build phantom right now because he plays no aim engage shit like abrams or mo.
>>544311432many such casesthats why I tell you guys kovaaks is shitter cope, the biggest roadblock to being good is having a triple digit iq, which m1ggers lack
>>544311479Rome was barely civilized, they shit in the street and had slaves fight lions to death
>>544311526>erm but 2 items that got nerfed!!!lol
>>544311678>had slaves fight lions to deathThat's awesome though
>>544311773bro wants to be a slave lmao
>Drifter leaves me alone in lane 6 minutes in to farm>Goes 0/7, and has less farm than me>Calles everyone else useless
>>544311432People who need cheats are shitters by definition. Can't cheat in macro sense either.
>>544311887I'd win
>>544311363along with his apely features
>>544311773I draw the civilization line at Britain, Germany, and the few French who slept with enough brits and germs to dilute their retardation Nords were barbarians until the 80s
>>544312051These guys were actual fucking orcs during Roman times though
>>544311678Compared to the rest who didn't shit in the streets because of the lack of streets and who couldn't afford a slaves vs lion fighting grounds. You seem a bit too mad at the fact that the Ancient Rome was civilized, are you German?
>>544312150No im the least civilized of all, Irish. I just call it how i see it
I'm seeing more Doorpersons going back to spirit. It got kills here but wasn't really game carrying as gun was. This dude did get a very nice door kicking us from mid to a very bad spot.
>>544312279Where's my wifwolf hero!?
>>544312429sexy werewolf girl with a hairy chest like my mom*drools*
If capacitor built out of nothing, people would still rush it on every carry. If spellslinger had a build up, people still wouldn't buy it.
>>544312051I think this is the most fair delineation. Where 80% of European great figures in math, science, music, art, philosophy came from etc
>ally drifter ults>enemy haze and infernus continue shooting me and moving exactly like before as if nothing happened>check statlocker after the match and see this on the HazeWere they hacking?
>>544312051germoids will never be civilizedeverything wrong with the world can be traced back to their wicked race of subhumans
street brawl
>>544312729Not including Greece because modern Greece is a shithole is honestly insulting
>>544312776statlocker ranks 27% headshot accuracy as top 1% so probably.That said, there's certain things that can "pierce" drifter ult like pings, and damage numbers will give you a rough idea of where someone is.
>>544312783>saying germs are subhuman when russoids exist
mina is a one build hero until I unlock the secret gun mina build
>>544312776Probably not, idk why people shit themselves when drift ult happens, its just like feeling around in a cookie jar, you dont NEED to see
>>544312783They're more like vampires than subhuman I would say>>544313304Whille russians are orcs
>>544312783https://youtu.be/fPUOT46ucrk?si=Dt40VZjmKOEjIZnQ
>>544312815How many players will this be? 6 on one lane sounds unplayable
>>544313304yeah, right after making that post i thought to myself >there's some things that can be traced back to russians as well actually
>make a shitpost for fun>europeans turn the thread into a /pol/ thread arguing about who is more important and whiterlisten you all are americas bitches anyway so just shut the fuck up god
I see capacitor built in like 20% of games I play, is it because I’m in noob elo
>>544313335>nearly 40% headshot rate WHILE BLINDED BY DRIFTER ULT>not hackingI see you're also a "member of the aiming community."
>>544313659yes
Gonna commission some DL porn, give me ideas
>>544313623i am afraid that the narrative that x european ethnicity is not white is in fact american in origin
>>544313623no, I will use any chance I get to bash g*rms
>>544313838Vyper on Ivy with Drifter watching in the background.
>>544313838futa mina x vindictaalternatively paige x victor
>>544313659Capacitor is a good item. The amount of buffs it clears is amazing. Kind of a pain to aim in my opinion. Its been slept on from its inclusion til about a month or so ago, and people only bought it up until that point just to upgrade Tesla Rounds.
>>544313685I bet you shit yourself when someone sprays a corner through smoke tooIts ok, visualization is a higher order thinking not awarded to everyone
>>544313838Sex with Abrams
>>544313838vindicta mind break corruption by hathorne or whoever
>>544314004Yup, you're an "aiming community member."
>>544313838A guardian using a trooper like an onahole
>>544313754>>544313991When are you supposed to actually use it past something obvious like viscous cube? Just wait for the active item bubble to show up when they have vamp burst up?
>>544313567confirmed 6v6
>>544313838>Pocket Ara Ara'd by Geist>Vyper x Lash reverse rape>Paige using her book for some tentai>The Baroness' BDSM Dungeon feat. Doorman x the male cast>Haze x Seven
>spend entire game in the jungle catching up because I got fucked early>still do more damage than our Vyper?
>>544314446Yeah, basically. Stops infuser, metal skin, v burst, and so on. You can also use it for the big slow, which can be good follow-up cc from your primary engagement point.
>>544309856Honesty is about how the character feels to play against mechanically not how high their winrate is. Dynamo has a straight forward gameplay loop
>Warden mains be like
Ult Warden is really so stupid, how do you even counter it? idk what the typical build is but i'm running SoP, CDR, lightning scroll, and healing tempo/radiant regen combo
>>544315348just walk away from him the range is pathetic
>>544315348He gives you a whole 2 second warning before killing you. If you don't listen and fuck off then you deserved to die. >>544315297His voice doesn't match his look. He sounds way too cool to look like some retarded british cop.
>>544315348
>>544315461He's literally a placeholder currently.
>>544315461It's a disguise mate. A cop uniform is basically an IRL cheatcode for getting what you want.
>>544315543Bottom left or bottom right and I'll play him
>>544315348Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Warden Ult Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Cone Like Nigga Dash Away Haha
>>544315767Warden is a top anon
>piggy "support" drifter build>it's just a hybrid spirit/melee build>still buys backstabber>still buys gank items like cold front and silence waveHe only calls it "Support" because of Refresher and Heroic Aura, both of which benefit him too...
>>544316186kill yourself
>>544316248Damn almost like there's more than one way to cut a cake
>>544316363lmao simmer down
>>544316363nyo
>>544316248Support in this game is >scaling your team with active items>resetting powerful team helpiny abilities >buying active slots to debuff the enemy>buying passive effects that help the team(mystic slow/vuln/suppressor/backstabber to proc them) Once you're out of initiate you'll understand
Arcanist 4 now. There is no end to my enshittening.
>>544315541
>>544304131im surprised there's no fanarts of him as the nameless one
>>544316248>revealing, slowing and silencing the enemy isn't support
>>544317048erm... if he doesnt heal he isnt a support...
I honestly think hunter's aura is a trap item for Drifter. It really doesn't give that much damage for its price and firerate reduction only in a 1v1 is the only time Drifter wouldn't need itAlso I think Titanic mag is slept on by Drifter when you build fire rate. His ammo pool is so small and you want to be bursty. It's awful to have to reload in the middle of a kill.Spirit snatch is also a trap item for gun Drifter, while it makes your rend do 100+ damage it doesn't do much else for 3200 as you make no use of the spirit resist steal or the spirit power steal. Surge or power still gives that extra spirit but gives your FR and speed I die on the hill that Shadow Weave might be the key to making him work (just make sure to break stealth before rend)
>>544317370t. Arcanist
>>544316248Backstabber is a support item
>>544316841should include "grope emiru at twitchcon"
>>544317370The unwashed masses (e6 ) will learn one day. Point blank is also a trap cause it doesn't work with rend>>544317558t.emmisary
>>544316841Se7en bros... we get such good art so much.
>>544313838Abrams and that Ixian woman from the VN
>>544315209So does Mo, yet that doesn't stop him from being king of dishonest.
>>544317370just buy active reload instead of titanic mag
>>544315431>>544315541>>544315836>has never played against a good ult warden beforelol lmao even
>>544318427good is always relative in a pvp game; for him to be good you must be bad
someone give me a good wraith build
>>544317370>doesn't need spirit resist on a dive/ pick hero>15 meter debuff aoe that gives coveted bonus HP and sprint speed to get around the map, makes you unable to lose 1v1>>544318027>point blank is useless on my character with a shotgunThe average skill level on this board is so low I can feel my own MMR going down just being here
>>544318525An item that doesnt work with your ability it bad yes
>>544318520Mystic burst / improved spirit/ rapid reload into refresher, veilwalker and tranny cooldown, spam your maxed ult on entire teams
>>544317370Hunter's aura lets him easily 1v1 any gun carry but the reason it's an AURA is that helps hugely in team fights
>>544318662with spirit snatch>they do less damage>you take less damage>you livewithout>they do lots of damage>you take more damage>you diehope this helps chief
>>544313838>>544314574>Pocket Ara Ara'd by GeistMore like Pocket brutally reverse-raped by McGinnis so hard that he stops identifying as male
Ok hear me out.... Sharpshooter drifter
>>544301697https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Games/Deadlock/DeadlockAugust22025/Audio/lash_killstreak_mid_01.mp3
>>544318913Im the point blank guy, but i agree that spirit snatch isn't ideal. Your just running it because its good rn notb
>>544319191Good rn* not because it fits the kit
give Trophy Collector a T4 upgradeOnly change is it turns the sprint speed per kill into regular movespeed. Stacks carry over.Would this be OP? It would be 3.2m/s at 16 stacks.
>>544319009surely you meant starts
>>544314574>Haze x SevenThe best suggestion hands down
>>544319190Is he saying looking or making a sound effect?
whats a good mirage build?felt like i was playing him okay but was doing absolutely no damage so i feel like the items i chose early didnt help me consistantly get damage
>>544319442Give it a t4 upgrade it automatically turns into at max stacks. Giving +all stats
bros why is it so FUCKING green
>>544319736That would be evil because then you could sell it and since it's now a t4 it would completely refund the original price
>>544318427agree>just walk out!>oh but your stamina is sapped??
>>544313838>>in this specific artstyle
>>544320132cause you keep picking green ass charactersThrow some Geist in there and you're golden (green)
>>544320132>62 minute game Alchemist 3
>>544319729There was a lot of builds running the mystic shot>mystic burst>improved spirit which no longer works as of last patchI just go extended mag>compress cooldown(mark)>qsr(mark). It works without the extended mag but if you get even 1 firerate up from a box you run out of ammo before max mark
>>544320132dont worry, the red is coming...
>>544319009>he stops identifying as malehe already did that
>>544320132You can't escape the red wave
>play tankbop>run at enemy team>hit them with a bomb>hook someone>tanky as fuck>max hyperbeam>heal myself right upOh yeah it's gaming time.
>>544320132Yah I'm scared of queueing up.
>>544320524how do his marks work exactly? felt like i was shooting people 10 times in a row and only getting to x2
>>544319442I'm not spending 3200 for dogshit trophy collector. Why would I drop 3200 more for jack shit?
>>5443209273m/s is insanely fast, and once sprint speed kicks in you basically teleport
>>544319442add a spirit econ item and all 3 combine into a 6400 that instantly loses you the game
>>544319024>eliminates his fall off entirely>more damage against fleeing targets>targets fleeing stay in the bonus range for longer>-1ms offset by bloodshed +2ms>would make dlg seetheI see the vision
>>544320924There is a cooldown based off time, its 2.5s at base so if you shooter 10 bullets in 2.6s you only get x4. Thats why you gotta be careful with the firerate because running out of ammo adds a 2.6s reload delay to your stacking. Ideally you want to reload right after hitting max stacksCdr reduces that cooldown so you can hit max stacks in like 5-6 seconds instead of 12.
>>544321670>based on time not bulletsOOOOHHHHH that explains so much, thank you
>>544313838ivy gangraped by mendoza's goons
>>544313838holliday
>finally play pocket>he's funfuck...
>>544322336how much of it is him being fun and how much of it is maj leap being the most fun item in the game?
>>544314461he cute
>>544322437at least 70% fun. So far I don't find him as hard as Mina to play but being impactful/the most impacful seems hard.
>>544322154This is the dawning of the rest of our lives
>>544313838razor on wrists, lengthwise
>>544316841I love this meme. It's especially funny considering I'm playing in shitlow where I'm monitoring every single retarded move from my team and just intentionally WALK OUT. Eventually I just wipe the enemy team, take mid boss and HIT THA BRICKS towards enemy base to finish the game 4/0/8 with 55k souls and 30k obj dmg.
On Dynamo: Majestic Leap or Warp Stone?
>>544322905if you play dynamo without warp stone im reporting you
>>544321116The problem of needing to rush 3200 for literally nothing is still there, but even worse because you're dropping another 3200 for an effect that you only see benefit from if your opponents are braindead and keep chainfeeding stacks to you after you just wasted 6400 souls (you might as well build magic carpet at that point).
>>544322905You get both but majestic leap is better anyone who says otherwise is piss low
>>544322905warp stone has a lower cooldown, doesn't deactivate on damage and majestic leap is too loud
>>544288447>>544211183I have indulged in my autism and made the TRVE Character Honesty Tier List.Criticisms towards my shitty point system will only be accepted if you are ascendant+
>>544323080You can silence any active effect with some QE tech that I won't tell you about.
I wish they removed all sound in the game so I could blast music without handicapping myself.
>>544323070leap is literally a crutch for people who cant rotate
>>544323162Debuff removal and healing are both forms of damage negation. I didn't even look at anything past 1 point and Victor and won't bother because you're clearly retarded
majestic leap mo n krill?
>>544323512rush magic carpet, never die
>>544318486Warden is extremely fast especially when his barrier gives him a % boost to his move speed (only ability in the game that does this). He can zoom around at the speed of sound so it's not an issue for him to catch up to you with ult. His flash also removes 1 stamina from any enemy it hits and warden has the luxury of building cooldown reduction that lets him literally spam it every 3 seconds. You can never overextend against warden because he can choose you down extremely easily
>>544323512His momentum carries while ulting, press magestic leap, press ult, drag enemy with you
>>544323367Flat damage negation only bitch, otherwise i would have to lump every healing ability in there and that varies too much
>>544322905warp stone>>544323512nope, also warp stone
Eternus tier list
>>544319191>Your just running it because its good rnDrifter has very good spirit scaling on everything but his passive. Having a mix of spirit damage doesn't mean it doesn't gel with his kit. You're hyperfocused on drifter gaining weapon damage from his passive.
>>544323565but i already did that
>>544323623>my tier list excludes anything too hard to measure. It also uses specific terms so I can place heros where I wantVictor has a 1.5 second stun yet lash got 5 points for something easier to dodge.
>>544288447Funny how GT does the same shit Vinny does but in a completely dishonest way.
>>544323738>wraith>cwhat a downplaying pussy
>>544323738>continues to lowball his mains despite wraith being dominate and high pick rateCan't trust this bias retard. I can't wait till he falls out of eternus.
>>544324103>lash ult is easier to dodge than victors
>>544324131It's true. GT has a global map ult that stuns and gives perm scaling, it also makes him immune to any skills while the bird isn't in LoS. GT can dash while Vinny can't despite both flying, GT has charges on an easier to hit skillshot that does max damage always while vinny has to hit s sniper shot while they're under half. GT has AoE curse, Vinny has aoe slowing hex that roots.
ivy is such dog shit
what's mina like atm?
>>544324521Needs buffs desu
>>544324426Victors ult goes through walls floors and ceilings, Lashes does not. You can't refute this
>>544324131Yes, YES we are exactly one (1) step closer to wacky minecraft maps with parkour and secrets
>>544324275He won't cus he's actually good at the game (unlike you).
>>544324656You can LOS Viktor ult
>>544324521See>>544323738
>>544324605stfu waifu turd fuck your mobilitycreep cancer character
>>544324731Metro you lost and got raped. Now fuck off before I tell Dan to give you another 7 day, or worse a perma that sends you off to the nearest factory.
Alright. Brainstorm ideas to improve the "comeback" mechanic this game doesn't actually have. Something that is actually capable of giving a losing team a fighting chance. Urn doesn't work, just more objectives for a winning team to take for a bigger lead.
>>544324870And nerd whoever this guy likes
>>544324979The game already has comeback mechanics it's called farm and don't play like a retard. Hope that an enemy gets too cocky and you use comms to catch them off guard.
>>544324720welcome back early 2010 tf2
Crazy how low Seven's pickrate is now
>>544324979A patron dying puts a donation box the spawn, light melee to add 1600 souls heavy melee to add 3200, after 12,800 souls are added in it respawns your patron(numbers cam vary)
>another game ruined because lottery matchmaking gave the enemy more carriesIf they don't actually put hero pick in when this shit hits release.0 I think I'm just gonna go back to dota.
How do you play Yamato if the lane is against characters that vastly out range and damage her?
>>544325898Well if they are cheating it doesn't matter who you are playing
>>544324979I just want either fortify or buyback. That's all. Some way to help break a push.
>>544325898Throw bombs
The black wοman οf Valve unοriginality.These are TWΟ different characters.
>>544324521Insufferable at all stages of the game on the enemy team, goes 0/15 and loses on yours. So no changes whatsoever.
>>544325040>a top three laner in the game, with scaling, needs buffs because 1. my favorite streamer told me it's ok because she falls off after 60 minutes, and 2. because I want to sniff her pantsueat shit apologist
>>544323738I'm a glue eater who just plays this game without worrying about comp shit, how accurate is this? I just want Lash to feel better outside of the first 15-20 minutes of a game, feels every patchnote I look at he gets either no changes or nerfs.
>>544326286Buff her twice
>>544325898How do you play Yamato in general?
>>544326347That tier list is for high-rank only.
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!sorry i'm late i was wageslaving
>>544326365>no argumenttypical waifu turd
>>544288447true except mokrill is also maximum honest
>>544323738>two of my mains are Dogshit tierwhatever, this shit ain't nothin to me man
>>544326709and how was your shift at the gay bar
Quick!Who do you main and why?!
>>544314461Brooolchads won. We can finally brool and ignore macro the entire game as the founding fathers intended.
>>544326036>>544326709>Im the next nulee!Kill yourself scum
>>544327004i work in a lab and it was busy but that's better than having enough spare time to scroll 4chan tee bee aych
>>544327090Abrams. First in the alphabet order.
>>544327163that's where you're wrong, wageslaving is never le goodobviously I still do it but it's killing me and you
>>544327090kelvinskating is funhe's been broken since there was 4 lanes and idc to stop now
>>544327090Mina; Fun+Panties+makes people angry
>>544327090Abrams. I like his kill potential when up close. Too bad my teammates never follow up on initiations.
>>544327121Who?
>>544327090Shiv cuz he's cool
>>544323738>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>metro
>Im at 75% hp and about to get whooped>Pop it>SurviveI've been sleeping on this beauty
>>544327898leech honestly is kind of garbage and the active versions are better.
>>544327898gets hit by capacitor 1s after you activate it
>>544317558I'm phantom 4 right now and climbing>>544318525>doesn't need spirit resist15% for 3200 for only 8 seconds is ass, literally less than Enchanters. Fury Trance is way better for this at the same price while also giving a ton of DPS. The debuff does nothing because you aren't doing spirit damage outside of your ult after you use your rend anyways. And if you're ulting you're better off with more firerate. When you're drifter you're already getting a move speed item and you're already getting kenetic, HA is good but it's not that good that I think there are many items Drifter can get more out of. >>544318292That's another one I considered since the lifesteal can stack with your 1 T3. With Drifter's damage amp and style he wants damage and some mobility above all else. Will the lowered fire rate from HA is great there are cheaper options and the damage it gives even while enemies are alone isn't as good as other T3s
inhouse when
>>544327090Lash.Perfect cardio.Perfect form.Perfect hair.
>>544324979Idk if i actually want a real comeback mechanic Coinflip late game teamfights already grind my gears
>some guy DCs early>entire enemy team leaves>entire team leaves except me and holliday>we just silently end the game over the course of 10 minutesI didn't want the loss on my match history...
>>544324979make black heroes give 200% more souls on kill if they have higher than average net worth
>>544328601Not nearly as bad one total one sided snore fests. Literal fun siphons.
>>544324979Skunk mechanic so we can go next
>>544328715Did you mean to type black? Otherwise, not awful, but still basically impossible to achieve
>>544328904yesmake specifically wraith infernus calico haze give more souls on death if they're fed
>>544323162victor's ult stunsmcginnis stuns with her wall at tier 3 (also the wall alone is dishonest)feels like youve made the rating system too rigid to be correct
>>544327090Viscous, this goober can shit out surprising amounts of damage and has a lot of utility with the punch movement techs, cube and ball
>>544327090drifter cuz i love his voice
>>544327090drifter because fun when you actually get the chance to get some stacks
>yamato's new weapon is caltrops that she throws
>>544323162infernus has an aoe stun ultmcniggis has a displacement (also a stun)seven has a stun even if it's kind of weak compared to most other stunsviscous has an invuln but I assume that's "escape tool"wraith has a stun on her ult>>544324656I genuinely don't think I've ever been hit by victor's ult stun, it's lower range and a longer wind-up than lash's ult while having a much more obvious telegraph
>>544323162>Victor>has to be killed 4 times if he's ahead>honest
>>544323162>victor's ult stunsBut it's super telegraphed and reactable>mcginnis stuns with her wall at tier 3 (also the wall alone is dishonest)It's less than a second long, but yeah being a ranged stun is pretty dishonest>feels like youve made the rating system too rigid to be correctYou're right, but honesty in mobas is such a meme I couldn't bother making an in-depth system, it's mostly for fun
>>544329438I have spent an inordinate amount of time just doing goo-fy shit with him in sandbox mode.
>>544330279meant for>>544329287
>>544327090Abrams because he was made for me
>>544330245does refresher work on his ult? would be cool if so but considering I never see anybody do it I doubt it does
How is Gun Doorman after the patch? Haven't had the opportunity to try it a lot yet. Wanna know if it's still viable. Was hoping Deathy would comment on in in his weekly tier list update but he didn't
>>544329931>not enough players in the secret inner playtestlollmao
>>544327090Vindicta, sniping people is addictive as fuck.Alternatively Viscous, he does it all.
>>544330849paying 6400 to die again instead of using the 6400 to just not die at all is why
>>544330849It's bought in non-shitter games because having a hypertank that has to be killed 4 times is an instawin if your team is not retarded
genuinely what the fuck is this game. top 20% of the player base and a pocket with ONE assist, 4 people with sub 10k damage
>>544331341top 20% is people that have played inbetween 20 and 50 hours
>>544331410maybe 1 year ago
>>544331341I was the Paige. You lost and got raped. Thanks for the mmr trashcan
>>544321364Hol up im cookinDrifter fall off is from 22m-27m, so the +20% 8s +6m so he is full damage at all times. The fall off is linear from 100%-10%, so previously at 25m he would only do 46% dmg, but now he gets the +70% from SharpshooterThats a 170% swing at ranges that usually cuck him. If they get close you just chomp em
Sapphire Flame > Amber Hand
>>544331667Literally btw. If all my games were sapphire I'd have a 60% winrate
>>544331579>heal slutting for your smurf duovery submissive and breedable behavior
>>544331984wow what the fuck, I didn't think it differed this heavily
>>544331984what could be the cause of this?
>>544331984>>544332214>>544332305Valve might put the team with higher mmr average on one side during matchmaking
>>544332109As a 6'5 350lb man you wouldn't think I'm either but I do like dom girls so who knows
Your lane partner for tonight
I just went 0-15 as drifter. I don't understand this game. At one point a kelvin walked into a walker, got stunned and hit for half his life, but when I start shooting his fat head non stop while he's stunned it barely tickles him and then he just walks away. I don't fucking get it I did 0 damage to anyone.
>>544332693>1700 objective damage I'll take it over the subhumans in my game>>544331341
>>544332738post match id
>>544332771Not exactly a tall order doing 1.7k when you spend the entire game splitting (dying)
>>544332693SLICE'EM
>>544332693How do you even get to that many, if I’m at 7 or 8 I’m already seething and avoiding fights
>people call mcginnis dishonest>all you have to do is not 1v1 her on her side of the map to hardcounter her>hero who cant push if you clear her wave>hero who cant wall or ult you if youre in the air>hero who can't escape if you chase her while she's on CDs>hero whos gun is only valuable for the first 10 minutes of a match and then becomes irrelevant>but she's dishonest because one time the mcginnis i laned against bought tesla bullets and I tried to duel her
>>544332813I would prefer to remain anonymous unless there's another way to post match replays.
>>544332920Yes the gun build is why, not the auto aiming turrets that apply 3 debuffs while she heals max hp% for her teammates that applies movement speed and other buffs.
>>544332738What's your rank/hours in the game? What was your build?Drifter isn't the most straightforward character so if you're a new player you should consider watching some high level matches to see what they are doing.
>>544332920>>hero who cant push if you clear her wavemost retarded post i've seen in this generalmcginnis could dive into the walker and walk away on her own because she just throws a turret to tank all the damage and heals anything else then walks away with a wall on her back
>>544333054nobody will remember you bro. people play in inhouses here all the time. but you could post your build and who you were playing against if its that important to you
>>544333140>alch fire with healbane to counter med spec >curse to prevent turret placement>you can also just cut her wave and ignore her because turrets are stationairy>but shes dishonest because i dont want to
>>544330919still exclusively for glue eating homos
>Teammate gives up ten minutes into the game>Starts flaming everyone in chat>Soul count between teams is evenWhy do they do this? Are they not emotionally mature enough to realize that they're throwing a very winnable game by getting tilted?
>>544330919play ratman instead of trying to be a carry cuck
>>544333278retard seeker take assuming you should ever let a wave reach your walker to drop protections in the first placeif you dont catch a wave before that point it's entirely your own fault
>>544333365
>>544332578what does being a fat fuck have to do with this?
>>544333365the way yo deal with fags like that is to flame them back. if they continue to throw you can make the game end faster and go to the nextif they leave you can leavetheres a small chance you talking shit makes them want to play betteralso if they talking shit in chat use your mic and tell them to buy a microphone because youre too busy carrying them to read their biography
>>544333292Every character has counterplay. I'm not sure what your point is. That doesn't make her playstyle any less dishonest. Stop larping as if people are personally attacking you.
>>544333365>lose all 3 lanes>5 teammates all forfeit lane pressure and just teamfight through minute 15>nobody runs urn>nobody calls missing or spottedI give up because i'm not interested in doing all the critical thinking for my teammates
>>544332578Maurice irl
>>544333441Gunman is extremely good at ratting
i may have lost both my games today but i didn't feed my fucking balls out like i did yesterday so you know what that's a moral victory in my book
>>544333653>mcginnis is dishonest because [i dont like fighting her]newsflash blanco nino nobody likes fighting any hero in this game. nothing about mcg is fundamentally any less dishonest nor more honest than any other cheap shit across every kit in the game
>>544333219>>544333285I have 35 hours and I'm not sure how much of that is from a couple years ago and how much is recent. My rank is Ritualist V. Build was "TAS" 343994.
>>544333689You're not far off I'm a Federal goon anyway. I protect the boss and do what he says.
>>544333795That's not what I said. I know reading is hard for you but no amount of seething will make her any more honest. She uses turrets to fight for her. Walls you off if you're winning, heals everyone around her for max hp%. Dirty tactics only. This is all before items come into play.
>>544332920most dishonest post itt
>>544334070>i didnt say she's dishonest because I don't like fighting her, I said she's dishonest because she fights me in a way I dislikegotcha
>>544333803>4 gun carries on your team>spirit ivy>your calico threw>you didn;t buy a single green item (hence why you died so much)>entire enemy team went full spirit and you don't have resist for it>enemy team has kelvin AND victor AND shiv AND paige AND DOORMANyou weren't meant to win this game but you could have done better
>>544333858>ICE is in /dlg/
>>544334187RUN IVY RUN
turret characters can slob my knobcringe and dishonest every time
6 Seven
I guess building nade on Kelvin is the way to go yeah?
>>544334378>shoot turrets from cover>collect turret souls>gain 900 soul lead on mcg in the lane phase>but shes dishonest because i dont want to
enduring speed on mirage is wild wtf. that nigga schmoovin
>>544334131Post your winrate on her and I'll respect your opinion if it's higher than mine.
>>544333803>>544334141why would you skip these? movement is how you stay alive in this game
>>544334497>great winrate, blanco non
i can never tell if my escapes are>wow! i should not have fucking gotten away with that, that was a horrible play that should have gotten me killed eighteen times over>wow! that was a high risk high reward play that i pulled off, AND i escaped with my life due to my skill in dodging enemy gamers!i just like being slippery and the thrill of running the fuck away
>>544334141The calico wasn't throwing on purpose he's my friend. I was just following the build I posted. I assumed most of drifter's sustain was supposed to come from pairing high damage with his 1's tier 3 effect. >>544334601Because I don't know what I'm doing. I just feel so defeated even when I try shit like going all in on gun and a kelvin just waddles away while his life barely moves.
>>544334709well that build is terrible, blood tribute before you have hunters aura is ridiculous
>>544334497>win 30 sub archon games as mcg>extrapolate that this trend would persist in higher ranks
>UHH NO HEAVY MELEE CANCELLING IS BAD>UHH STAMINA BUCKETS, YOURE SLOWER NOW>UHH WALL BOUNCING NOW USES STAMINA>UHH YOU USED A JUMP PAD SO NOW YOU GET STUNNEDman are they taking all the fun out of deadlock to put it somewhere else?
>>544334906team fortress 3
>>544334906hmc still exists just isnt cancerous with many formsdont know what that meanswall bouncing infinitely is extremely retardedbounce pads make the map too small and encourage too much 6v6
>>544334620Keep seething. Miku is a dishonest character. Not the most in the game, but pretty gay regardless. I rat towers I place turrets I heal my team and debuff the enemy. We're not playing the same game. I bait them and scramble away I never take a fair fight my turrets do it for me.
>ICE truck barreling straight for Ivy>I jump in the way to save her>I lay there on the concrete, dying, my internal organs crushed>She gives me a peck on the cheek before flying off>"Mr. President..." I say, with a single tear running down my face, "We can let one go, just this once..."
>>544335156She flies home to bounce on my cock btw
>>544334709another thing is your team comp had no pick hero and no frontline. i mentioned calico in particular because shes the closest thing you had to a frontline.you can get away with not having a support but the match maker really fucked you.i can't know for sure but kelvin probably waddled away because he had bullet resist and a lot more money. if you are behind especially as a gun carry fight is not in your best interest what you should do is farm as much jungle as you can in a side lane and making sure to push the creep wave whenever it gets to close to your walker
>>544334864So what's a good build then anon? This is the only moba I've ever played besides like 1 match of LoL over a decade ago.
>>544334187>>544334368>>544335156NOOOOOO BROS I PUT A GOOD WORD IN FOR HER I SWEAR
How do I get better at combat?
>>544335273>if you are behind especially as a gun carry fight is not in your best interest what you should do is farm as much jungle as you can in a side lane and making sure to push the creep wave whenever it gets to close to your walkerOkay I'll remember that for next time. I didn't want to even play drifter this match. I set lash to be my only priority and picked yamato and drifter as picks to meet the minimum.
>>544335067great job punishing brainless shitters now show the match ranks
>>544335487Wax on, wax off
>>544334709dont skip greens, especially ones that give you movement. they are as essential as damage items
>>544334463holy shit, a 900 soul lead?? That's an entire extra regen
>>544335595What is this supposed to mean?
>>544335628>he thinks being an entire item ahead of the enemy isnt grounds for a cascade BTFO leadenjoy shitlow
>>544335663Just a funny little "movie reference" for us old-heads.If you want to get better at fighting, try fighting more. Then watch replays to see what you're failing at. Aiming? Positioning? Not enough counter-building?
How it feels to play wardenhttps://youtu.be/-F6atccNg60?t=385
>>544335156in a few seconds, it'll all be over
>>544335746oh come the fuck on any lead below 2k is fucking meaningless>buhbuh 900 soul leadfuck off that's completely killable you assclown
>>544335545?
>>544336102meaningless in your hands, maybe.
>>544335278search for bodden or lightbringer if you want gunthere are spirit builds out there for more burst + ambush stuffand then there\s melee which is straight forward buy all the melee items and hunters aura
>>544336186how about I let you start with any 800 item you want and we'll see if you can kill me once you fucking larping pussy, you won't
>>544336148>kda miraculously shifts to 1/1/20starting to connect any dots here, dunning kruger?
>>544336338i beat enough people like you every other day in mm doing that exact thing so i'm not too concerned with getting through to you specifically
>>544336535so you won't, L, fuck out of my face
>>544332305i think sapphire's yellow side of the jungle is safer and easier to fight in for the defenders compared to amber's green (i.e. its supposed mirrored opposite)the middle of the lane feels slightly better for them than green for amber as well, although it's less obvious
>>544336338>he thinks getting kills is the lane win condition and not just winning tower first
>>544335156>she didn't stop the truck by plopping down her stone form ass in front of itreport
>>544334463there's no way they're letting you kill the turrets she blocks you off your wave and kills your creeps then runs you down
>>544328650This is kinda romantic..me and who
>>544336774i meant i would literally 1v1 him in a custom
>>544336780>wallbounce up and then stand on top of her wall>use movement abilities to get LOS above wall>play side flanks (river entrances or sides of blue bridge) to pittle mcg and her wave behind wall>bait wall out between waves>track wall and aggro when it's on 30-50s lane phase cooldownyou're in a room full of nails yet you refuse to wield a hammer
>>544336239I have had zero good experiences with melee on any character. People parry my fucking lights. Do you have a recommendation for lash builds? He's the character I really only care about. Drifter is just there because he looked cool but maybe I should just cram 2 meta characters into my draft when I'm not allowed to play him.
>>544336995i play drifter nigga the turrets out range me
>>544337018Find a lash build that maxes 1 for big spirit damage. Whip is technically better if your team is good but I think it's shit since you cant kill anything alone you just hop around like a retard.I stopped playing lash due to counterspell and spellbreaker but I think he's still viable just less than when I started
>>544337194>mcg puts down turrets and blocks off my wave>she pushes after wave drops>jump mcginnis (her turrets are behind her and she has no wall>kill her or make her fuck off and lick her woundsany competent mcg is saving wall for when she gets to your guardian. if she uses if at any time before that, there's few excuses to be scared of her in the lane center
>>544337371>stopped playing lashI definitely feel it. Feels like every game is decided by whichever characters have the most gun damage output at good ranges and ults that are broken good. Like maybe I'm just stupid but drifter ult feels borderline worthless compared to most characters I have to play against.
I wonder what's more embarassing for him, lying about his rank or playing a dyke
What do you think this build is missing?
>>544338230I would not build fury trance
>>544338230a talented player
>>544338230Actually getting usage out of kinetic dash. I've seen similar builds for drifter smack ass.
I have a friend who insists on going Torment Pulse into Fortitude into Stam mastery every game as holiday before getting rapid recharge and basically throwing his entire midgame damage potential in the trash but i can't convince therm that it's a bad idea
>>544338547you have to buy fury trance 100% of the time as drifter to larpsame reason why you always buy magic carpet on mirage
>>544338230get swift striker instead of kinetic desu, and get spirit shielding instead of veil walker
>>544339012well look on the brightside, he could be building trophy collector as well
Why does the male Patron wanna fuck Vyper so bad>"Ooooooh Vyper... You are so beautiful!"
>>544339310both patrons say it, i dont know why
>>544323738Kelvin is ass what the fuck is he talking about.
>>544339310>>544322336
>>544339310the patron is like some sort of jew god that manipulates the people attempting to summon them by using flattery and appealing to what it thinks the individual wants to hear, vyper is probably insecure about being an ugly weird lizard person
>>544339310>>544339382The patrons just tell each character what they want to hear, they are demons trying to seduce people into summoning them
>>544339310Vyper has zero real qualities so they just go with the simplest.
>>544339382I assumed as much but every time I play Vyper I'm Amber so I wasn't sure.>>544339459She doesn't look like that (yet)>>544339497>>544339506Yeah I know that but I just find it odd that she's the only one (that I've heard) to have a line like thatLike surely someone as vain Mina would also have a line like that>>544339625That's a good point, she's a girl failure
>McGinnis>tranny cooldown, echo shard, refresher>run down to midboss and place 10 turrets spread out around the arena>midboss roars>enemy team tries to contest and they get shot at from all sides from a shitload of turrets, they feed and we win the gameLMAO
>>544339432
>>544339714Tales from seeker
>>544339692mina already knows shes hot as fuck, what she wants is power and recognition which is why the patron tells her shes fit to lead the old ass vampires even though she has zero leadership qualities and no clue what shes doing
now that the dust has settled, was seven overnerfed?
>>544338230>0:08boomer reaction time
>>544339869Ascendant but in all fairness you're retarded so I'll let it slide.
>>544340012yea he sux bigly
>>544309646remember when sniper lady was actually support and Yoshiipiss nuked her snare? no fun allowed
>>544339917what does she even want from the patrons
>>544340436To become a futanari
>>544340493>not just installing the modis she retarded?
>>544340436Viscount of New York or some other vampire related business
>>544340493Literally what McG wants.As a dyke she has insane penis envy. The massive guns, the inflated ego, the need to appear strong. That bitch is wishing for a massive honking cock from the patron.
>>544340637the post he replied to literally said this he meant vyper
>>544340637Can she just wish to be the leader and have them submit to her and they just doHow do patrons actually work
>>544340801we just dont know
>>544340754The topic of that post was Mina. Hence it's natural to conclude that he's talking about her
>>544338230Mystic burst for rendMystic shot over backstabber Warpstone over veilwalker
mina ha rise up and take what you deserve
You guys getting the message yet?
The streets of Osaka's
I hate yamatoStupid fucking fivehead
Mina has Team Rocket/Izma energy.If Deadlock gets serialized in any capacity I really want to see her being a small time villain trying to pull something ambitious but failing right after in virtue of being completely retarded.
mina ha makes me want to rise up
>>544341496あなたもファックしてください
>>544341634yzma*
Inhouse?
>>544340012nerfing lash/seven same patch you buff gun was retarded.
>>544338230but why surge of power?
>>544342323do more damage shoot faster move faster
>>544340012nerfing seven when capacitor is meta is lol
>>544342408if you want a conditional fire rate/move speed buff that you won't have all the time why not buy active reload for half the price, you can get fleetfoot if you want the no shooting penalty too and then the thing you do all the time (gun/melee part of rend) does more damage because of higher flat orange item investment instead of just the point blank part of rend and only sometimes
>>544327090Victor because I like playing tanks but want to be able to actually push objectives
>>544338547Really? I think it's brilliant for Drifter. The 40% firerate and 40% spirit resist turns you into a real menace.>>544342323I was doing some damage testing for Rend and surge is pretty close to spirit snatch and the firerate+move speed is a serious boon. It also procs on NPCs so it helps roaming and farming>>544338778>>544340183Watch it, buddy. It just looks bad on the replay
>>544339692calico also gets sweet-talked by the patron in a similar manner
>>544338547I started winning way more as drifter after buying fury trance/blood tribute so either its pretty good or i'm being rewarded for roleplaying
>>544343418>that parry?
>>544343418Nice parry scriptKeep fighting the good fight, total Calico death
just got peak in my recshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF4JHngkacw
>>544343760bet she was doing a heavy melee and he heard it
>>544343760>>544344137Audio queue>total Calico deathTrue though
eternus 5 babywe're almost there
>>544344409>full charge combo when theyre both at 30% and you're full resourcesFlowchart tards never learn do they?
>>544344409kek @ abrams thinking his calico was going to fight when she ulted but is left alone to get 2v1'd
>>544338230Hunter's Aura and Point Blank.
Game just needs a nudge into the gun direction for it to be tight af
>>544344909It already has. Gun investment was buffed a little while ago and every gun item is loaded with stats that spirit items don't have.
>>544345006I guess you're right
>>544344909fr fr ong no cap its so close to being as good as rivals dog
>>544344487what are you queuing?
>>544345006>bro gun heros get CRAZY damage 30 minutes into the game it's totally balanced!
>>544345519wraith/drifter first, then dynamo/kelvin second
>>544345380
>>544345629if you're failing to do good damage with gun heroes before 30 minutes that's your personal problem
Never gets old no matter how many times I see it.
Did they fuck up the mm after the badge cuckoldry? It feels significantly shittier since then. Every chromie is thrown on my team and either feeds his ass off in lane or has zero impact.
>>544346312It's also the same fucking heroes every single game, this game is getting really tedious.
>haze can ult while disarmedmovement gets nerfed every patch but this shit is fine since day 1
>>544346312this game isnt made for solo q
>>544346609disarm is for the M1 not abilities retard>but her ultimate uses her gun????it's an ability, get silence wave or curse or knockdown
>>544346630Friendless gamers are the most oppressed group of people
>asked mid match if I wanna join their discord>panic and say no because I'm autistic >they asked me what my favorite slur was >all around fun game if you're here bros it was fun playing but I'm a solo only it was fun though
>>544346719>but her ultimate uses her gun????yes, I dont care if its an ability, its an ability that uses her gun.
>>544346967His logic is incosistent>>544346719Because paradox can get disarmed and is unable to shoot carbine.
>>544347048Carbine uses a bullet though and cannot shot if you're reloading/out of ammoIt's different
no more drifter webms im tired of this nigga play someone else
>>544346609will shitlows ever get over their haze derangement
saw my first gun dynamo todayI knew it was possible
Would the game be better if ALL DOTs couldn't kill you? Think Pocket ult not being able to kill you if you get away. Why should shiv knife, infernus burn, decay, all that other shit, be considered a kill?And if that is already the case, what causes you to "be out of range" of their DOTs because the amount of times I am as far away as possible and still die to the DOT is nuts.
update.... pls...
>>544347746wasnt gunamo meta for a couple weeks way back in the past?
>>544327090Mina. Because of her 2. Nobody else can escape as well as she does.However, I do admit it's becoming a problem that players are buying counter items just to stop me from escaping.
>>544344883Pointblank is good but Hunter's Aura is a bit of bait item for drifter. Good in certain situations but some people ALWAYS buy it on him and too early too>>544347557Open wide
>>544347908bleeds and shit killing you isn't necessarily bad since you can debuff remove a lot of them, it's just that infernus has an extremely large amount of damage on his burn compared to other heroes and it has no cooldown at all past being able to click your opponent for long enoughalso decay doesn't kill you and it specifically says it's non-lethal in the item description
>>544347124>Skills follow different rules>Not that one
>>544347908Buy debuff remover >>544348062Yes and it got super nerfed.
Why don't any of the Shiv builds buy duration extender?
>>544348480mina bros... we're not sending our best
>>544348626I'm not the anon you were arguing withI'm just telling you that Carbine actively uses a bullet from your magazine, so naturally it's gonna interact differently with disarm than Haze ult, which does not
>>544348705minabros by definition aren't sending their best when they pick that self-griefing hero
>>544348480Why are Mina players the only ones that try to pull retarded shit like this?
>>544348480holy lmao
>>544348480They're not sending their best!
>guy advertises his twitch stream after the game>0 viewers don't even bother if you're not eternus 6 or had no presence prior to playing this game
>>544348702they do but its not remotely a priority for shiv because he wants too many other options first
>Roskomnadzor banned amazon AWS servers>Russoids cant play some games right nowHoly fuck please let them ban STEAM connections to, then deadlock without russoid retards will finally be playable.
>>544348960>>544348705That mina was having a very rough time. Said they were "tilted from hearing Russian."Apparently their team was like 5 russians. >>544349361I remember back in August-December 2024 like one-third the players had TTV in their name and almost all of them were unbearable. I remember one guy doing NOTHING all game, going 1/11 on Infernus making the biggest throws and plugs his twitch at the end.
>>544348626Do you not see the difference between 'standalone ability' and 'ability that augments your next attack' or are you being retarded on purpose?
>>544349597that build is such dogshitJust use drunk drifter
>Automatic weapon auto-denyYou didn't win the lane
>>544349714If you get denied you're 100% to blame. You have like 100ms to claim it before they even get a chance to deny it
>>544349714shitlowbros..
inhouse doko
>>544349714sometimes I wonder if you guys even understand how much bullet velocity, positioning and lane matchups affect the denying mechanic, but then I also remember the average rank here is seeker
>"Tracking" with gargantuan automatic shotgun blastsMeleetards are so braindead holy shit
Kino droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF4JHngkacw
>>544349597stalker long shots makes me remember prenerf bebop hook.
>>544349707nah here's the real sauce
>>544347557It's time.
>>544350153>blood tribute
>>544349707This build is good and is working. So far half the time I workshop my own build weeks later it becomes the meta. So don't doubt my genuis—I am a pioneer and a visionary.Surge is the best T3 accoutrement to rend on a gun build. Kenetic is good. Mag is slept on but if you're building FR it really helps because you want to be as bursty as possible. Drifter sucks balls at farming so I get a lot of souls from boxes, kills, and sinners, this makes ES (over something like FF) and VW great
point blank is my favorite item in the game. it's good on every hero. the stats are op. fight me.
>Lose against dogshit duo because lane partner doesn't know how to play
>>544350735>every herovindicta.
>>544350687Surge will never be meta on drifter such an absolute waste. Get QSR instead, veil walker will also never be meta unless it gets buffed but I respect you using it its kino
>>544350790I want to marry Nanachi.
>>544338230>>544348480Based lonewolf making own unique schizo build. >>544350117>>544350153Cringe sheeple following other people's "meta"This game is more fun if you experiment using your own brain.
>>544350678Against any team with any form of debuff or stun. Holliday can barely jumppad before lasso expires. Abrams cant heavy punch combo you anymore. Vyper ulti lasts 1.5 secs.
>>544350269billions must love bite
>kelvin turns on ice beamPLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
I'm Ascendant 2 and i've been playing with my ritualist friends and we've been winning no joke like 70% of all games recently but presumably because they're games too below my level i'm not ranking up at all
>>544350852shut
>>544351007hey
>>544350883>Surge will never be meta on drifter such an absolute wastePlease crunch the numbers. It's very good on him. Your rend has a 1.4x spirit scale—your only ability with any actual relevant spirit scaling—and you use it to open you get a big buff to fire rate and some extra chase speed. It makes your rend do almost as much damage as it would with spirit snatch (more than if you got lifestrike) and it buffs your weapons. It's great. >Get QSRNow THAT's a meme. You use rend usually as an opener (sure you could hold it but you'd be wasting damage), so you'd have to hold your rend until you run out of ammo otherwise you won't get the reload until a second cool down. And Drifter doesn't get much value from MM due to his ammo pool. >veil walkerCould be replaced with fortitude but drifter needs some sustain unless he wants to rush his rend T3 or go back to base every engagment. Veil lets you roam fast and sneak up on people (how you should be playing drifter). And unlike fortitude makes it easier for him to slip out after getting a pick
Can someone tell me if the Vinny is cheating in this match? 46006192I can't put my finger around it but she misses very rarely and im not sure if she's aimbotting or not
>>544349597>>544348480based mobo bro
>>544349601That original anon specifically said abilities follow different rules.
>>544348480everyone talking about the mina kill but that juiced up ivy got what she deserved. I like the landing of the mark, breaking LoS to get them not expect the heavy melee. I need to use this strat on melee drifter
>paige is going to get nerfed soongonna miss the kitten build lads
>>544350852It's good on her if you build melee.
i am always minorly annoyed when i load into a match and- oh surprise, i didn't set my controls again! the game forgets it every time you close the game! lol!
>>544352840works on my machine senpai-a-lam-a-ding-dong
>>544348480>level up gave 48 health>survived by 25hplove when that shit happens
>>544352491I'm notPaige can rot in hell for that.
>>544350678>hating on BTlove armlet toggling in dota, love BT toggling in deadlock, both are strong as hell.
>>544348480>>544349597>all the kills are womenMakes you think, no?
>>544353680his ign is "swallow gays" and he plays drifteriykyk
Is Dynamo good yet, or am I still at the whims of my team following up a black hole?
>>544350269sex with mina!!!
>>544353819just play to tilt the enemy team by spamming your waveclear button
>>544353819pray it goes past 30 minutes.
>>544353819no he is still sucks on every rank.
>>544352491I fucking hope so. God knows how she managed to escape a nerf in the last patch. I'm so tired of versing kittens and their unkillable hypercarry. God save you if you have to verse a Victor with a Paige superglued to his dick.
How do I driftermax?
>>544354648build trophy collector and start raping
I've picked up playing Shiv recently. Something I've noticed is that allies will randomly peel away from fights at max health, leaving me to die. How do I prevent this from happening?
>>544354870remember who did it after the first time and play around it.
Every thread we end up talking about Drifter and how he's shit and you shouldn't play him in multiqueue.Why's that?
>>544343418youre spending as much on titanic+fury for what you could get with frenzy or spellbreaker i dont think it's very good
>>544354836Don't rape nobody that shits illegal
>>544354983titanic is only 1600 lil bro. And spellbreaker doesn't do damage
>>544354948not enough heteroGAWDS itt so every discussion is about drifter and doorman
>>544355081being disabled less is damage
>>544355081also kinetic dash gives fire rate and ammo for only 1600 and doesnt disable stamina usage it's probably objectively better
>>544355265uhh hey buddy does kinetic dash give 22% bullet lifesteal
>>544354948no one else posts gameplay webms
>>544355452I can't make a webm with a low enough filesize
>>544355452>>544295785>>544355512just use webm for retards and lower the bitrate until it's barely watchable
>>544355512Post every individual frame of your webm as its own post
bro why the fuck do I have 0 souls in hideout and sandbox. Do I literally need to farm if I want to test a build?
>>544356036just buy shit bro.
>>544356036is this nigga stupid?
>>544352491Paige needs a different Q. Why does a support character have an annoying damage AoE??? Her ult is fine, it's an ult, but having consistent AoE damage makes her stupidly obnoxious on defense and big team fights.Also her barrier ALSO buffing teams weapon damage and fire rate AND casting to 3 total allies is ABSURD. Like the fact that the barriers scale too is just so retarded. IMO her barriers should just exclusively be barriers, no buffs, at most a movespeed buff. Instead of having the upgrade that gives it to up to 3 allies, the barriers should work on a charge system with a fairly long cooldown (like 60 seconds per charge) but work in some kind of per-hero cooldown system so she can't spam multiple charges on a single hero
>>544356168it's letting me now after I restarted, but originally it wouldn't let me and was literally putting items into my buy queue. Now it's letting me buy items but it's like, adding souls whenever I do, like I'm getting paid to buy them. W/e
>>544352491I want to murder Paige and Kelvin player so bad. Those two cucksuckers should not be so fucking strong early, mid and late game.
>>544356298it tells you how much the build costs noob
>>544354948shallow god's curse
>>544356360oh okay, so the build was free but still costed souls
>>544355368lifesteal is a meme you already have melee lifesteal
>>544354948general has moved on from downplaying victor after overwhelming evidence to the contrary
>>544356568>melee lifesteal>on drifter
NERF THIS NIGGER HERO SHIV
Nobody even bothers to come up with hero ideas anymore
>>544356862cant tell if youre baiting or retarded
>>544356980I look like this irl and I'm not joking
I still like stakedicta even after it got nerfed
I lost like 10 out of 12 or some shit the other day and I'm still feeling the after effects.If I told you that I had an unironic intentional feeder in 8 out of the 12 you wouldn't even believe me and call me an excuse maker. Dumped me from emissary to ritualist in record speed. Basically just made me want to retire the hero I play entirely and just be on something with more play potential. No, seriously. A feeder in almost every game. Like Infernus flame dashing into Mo and Krill right in front of their face and dying 4 times in lane type bad. You can't save that kind of retarded.
>>544356962theres no more characters needed
>>544357057back in your wheel hamstard
I keep winning but the game says I'm bad I agree
>>544357392game has hero specific mmr it's calibrating you
>>544357260few weeks ago i lost 6 games in a row and decayed 2 ranks.it was always a combo of really good player on the other team, by them being either just from ranks above, smurffs or cheaters, and my team having at least two absolute beginners and just some really shitty players in general. it is like they are allergic to winning. still trying to find a couple of character i can play really well to sneakily put down walkers somehow.
>>544357168Kept reading this as snakedicta and was confused about some build that I must had forgotten
Krill is a tulpa created by Mo in a fit of frustration as Mo can't speak. This explains why Krill dies when Mo dies
>>544357596I'd burn out of this game after like 500 games in almost record speed if this was the consistent quality of my solo queue games.It's like so many people are much more likely to be significantly shit no matter how hard I win my own lane. I'm not an amazing player by any means but there's a sort of give and take if I'm not on a carry. I don't play carries so it's natural my potential is diminished as is the utter dogshit hero that unfortunately is my favorite.There's only so much you can do where you kill 2 people on their team and ping midboss like it's the freest shit in the world and I see two clicker cores immediately beeline to camps or sit afk in midlane trying to get a t2 walker that will never die without rejuv. And they're almost always dead silent say nothing types. You think maybe hey, the way they play must mean that they're newer players. Chill out, give them the benefit of the doubt. It took me like 100+ to get used to the map, it makes sense. Nah, they have more games. They main the heroes they feed lane on, etc. Only thing it's ever cemented in my brain is to stop playing after 2-3 losses and never play past 3 am. What an awful habit I've never adapted since my 6k hours on Dota. Game just needs a surrender feature man these games are not comparable. I think the concept of the humble loss is lost on the Icefrog dicksuckers who think everyone that wants an out is a League player or some shit. I just want to play more and suffer less. The one in one hundred games you magically make a comeback from a 30k deficit that's only building is not worth it in the long run for my sanity or anyone else's.
>>544357287>>544357287>>544357287>>544357287
oooooooo WAH!
>>544349948>sometimes I wonder if you guys even understand how much bullet velocity, positioning and lane matchups affect the denying mechanic(nta) every time im on viscous my laning experience becomes 50% more awful like yeah i've got cube but i just cannot get a feel for his fuckin gun dude
>>544326347Metro is Eternus and plays with a fullstackHis advice works mostly for 10% of the fanbaseHis advice is copied by 80% of the fanbase in your glue eating ranks, thinking that will make them betterBut he's Eternus and plays with a fullstack
>>544330327Good luck trying to replicate that with an abrahams on your ass
