Powercreep Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2025-update.87198/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>544287206
sex with ivy
sex with mina
did the nerfs actually do much to calico?
>>544357635not at all
>>544357576SEX WITH MINA!!!!!
I never would've thought I would ascend with a 4 win streak on Vyper after not playing her in a month lol. I played well but god damn I just got blessed by the matchmaking overall, all the raging Hazes were on the enemy team with the good Kelvins and Bebops on mine, last game my Bebop was the second coming of Hitler and those niggas were the jews, they just let the minions finish while we went to get midboss for the lulz
>original item shop was betterItemization currently is quite literally the worst of any MOBA I have played. Majority of the items are useless.
Every streamer is soulless M1 or Pocket FUCK OFF
>>544358893who are you quoting
>>544358993Would you like to watch my no commentary Initiate Vindicta gameplay
any pve shooters that feel like deadlock?fps feels different from third person, and it seems like most third person shooters are slow and don't challenge your aim at all
>>544359305Are you a futa (2D)
gunnamo build, first build I actually designed myself and didn't just copycat. I think it'll work okay.
There's this faggot named Lucas who announced his name is Lucas at the start of every game and all he plays is pocket and he sucks ass and throws pretty much every time.
>>544357635genuinely its a buff, if eshift wasnt touched shed be insane right now
>>544359435Risk of Rain 2 :^)
>>544359513>no green items on the second biggest hit box in the gamegoodluck with thathopefully the game goes 40 minutes so you can start surviving fights and get giga outscaled by actual gun carries
>>544359305do commentary in sissy voice and i watch
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
>>544359435The pve modes in Monday night combat and SMNC (RIP)They were pretty basic bitch but I had a lot of fun playing those
>>544359667hotpoo....
>>544359760it's just a fun off-meta build man
Vyper and PaigeSitting in a treeIdk how to continue the rhyme but I think you know what happens in that tree
>>544358893No item is completely uselessSome items are generally bad yes but no item has "no use"
>>544359760between siphon and all the free health gun items get he will be well over 4k even with glass cannon
>>544359974fuck you
They should add a character that's like the dude from Split
>>544360029Vyper has eyes only for lash though>Quote "Can i call you lash" when flirting with billy
>>544360097fine: if you play gun dynamo, and you don't build my build, you're retarded. This is the optimal gun dynamo build, prove me wrong
>>544360041Some use is basically the same as useless. Every melee build is the same. Every gun build is the same. Every spirit build is the same. Maybe one or two item difference.
>playing with new friend in pisslow>faggot haze and viscus get fed as hell>Second timing Billy>about to lose the game >4man ult seven hitting a fatty ult over our patreon Bebop too, lash paige cleaning up with me>5/6 dead>see their patron non weakend taking damage>5man zip boost to their base>win the game I'm riding the high idc if they were shitt players games like that are magic and my friend was overjoyed with their performance of 7 kils with a positive KDA. I love this game bros
>>544360246>Some use is basically uselessIt's not thoughAlso>Every x build is the sameShitlow with no creativity spotted
>>544360169Also he could be like Deadlock's version of invoker and instead of those elemental orbs he has like floating little faces expressing different emotions and each combination channels a change in personality that gives him a different ability
>>544360246>everything is the same if you're reductiveok bro
>game devolves into BROOLing>finally get mystic reverb + spirit burn>assistant up, fire vexing bolts into enemy death ball>well over half their hp deletedsinclair is pretty ass but feels breddy gud in the trenches where this works
>pick geist>be a stupid fucking cumguzzling faggot that only plays braindead button mashing retard heros many such cases!
>>544360545>t. M1gger
>>544360545shut the FUCK up you bitchgeist is NOT braindead
>>544360545I just buy spirit shielding and resto shot early if I lane into geist bomb spamhurts my chances of killing her but at least it makes my life less unfun
>>544359513What's the general idea behind gunnamo? lock them in place with pulse then fill them with bullets?
No inhouse tonight? Sad :(Maybe i'll host a EU inhouse tomorrow
>>544360436I swear he's just straight up broken OPOnce you stack ungodly spirit you can just run around at mach 7 deleting everything on the map. With a hard CC and all the restI mean compare vexing bolt to shiv knives, it's totally ridiculous. I'd rather have a Sincair on my team than a spirit shiv at every point in the game
>it's another buy extra regen, healing rite, monster rounds, then enchanters/bullet vest laneI really wish I could just push in lane and back after taking a bad trade instead of having to do this bullshit
>>544360545my favorite part of my mina arc was when I would ult geist players while they panicked trying to swap
Abrams book should be replaced with a big can of beans
>>544359305yes
>my team pushes into walker>get wiped and enemy takes first mid boss and takes all our walkers instead>boss respawns as enemy is in our base>wipe them and take boss ourselves to reverse the game and winthe team who pushes first loses, you just gotta wait and kill them then take mid boss nothing else matter
>>544360719I just think his gun is actually okayish. I'm not saying it's good, I just think it exists enough that building around it is at least conceivable.
>>544361003Lash already did that though(Look at his belt)
>>544360728it's good to take breaks
>>544361113>you have to play the map by looking for picks and vulnerable lanes>mindlessly deathballing doesn't work ....yeah?
>>544361383you cant even push with only 2 people cause if they die it's a free mid boss from ~18 minutes onwardthe game's pacing is terrible
I am still not good and losing most of the time but I'm still having fun flogging and death slamming people. I hate kelvin and doorman and Victor and Paige and mina and Abrams so fucking much.
Deathballing is the only way to play. You have to play like a pussy and be ready to group up for a 6v6 deathball to determine who gets mid boss, that's the only strategy in deadlock. Brawl over boss.
broool?
>grrr midboss is gonna get it grrrrrrrmeanwhile in my shitlo rank half the time people take midboss they lose the next fight anyways
The black woman οf Valve unοriginality.These are TWΟ different characters.
>>544361695I'm starting to believe this more and more.I've had too much game even up to Ascendant, where it objectives lead and pressure didn't matter against just winning the big brool past 20-25 mins, since at that point respawn time are so long and heroes so powerful that any brool won will lead to the destruction of multiple objectives at once.I know pressuring lane and taking objectives is supposed to give us an advantage for said big brool, but it just doesn't feel satisfying.
>>544362964yep it really is shit, you can be ahead then suddenly the 10 minutes you were choking them out are erased instantlyand yeah comebacks should happen but it's usually just such a shitty way that makes the earlier part of the game feel pointlessthat being said most games are stomps but also because of mid boss lmao
>stuck at Seeker 2 ever since the rank redistribution>lost 4 games in a row>demoted to Seeker 1>next game>16-0 with vindicta>wonned in 18 mins>promoted back to Seeker 2It's as though me not being Seeker 2 were some cosmic error that has to be rectified at once or some shit. I'm never getting out of low elo hell am I
>>544362964>>544363297btw I was thinking of a way to fix this and I came up with a sort of buyback that only works when mid boss is alive and it puts you somewhere near the boss
>>544361695Rejuv has got to go. If they gave you a strong buff from killing mid boss instead of a respawn, it would be fair.
I finally convinced my friend who can't aim to pick someone other than vindicta
>>544363753I think it should be specific to the character that hits it like it used to be so that you have targets to kill that dont to live for free no matter what. There's nothing you can do
>>544363829Let him rock man, or else he'll stay an aimlet forever.
>>544363829how else will he get better at aiming
What is last hit
fearful joker: why so serioushttps://files.catbox.moe/6jbxlh.webm*dubstep*
>>544361113>>my team pushes into walker>>wipe them and take boss ourselves to reverse the game and win>the team who pushes first loseswhich one is it, frogposter. which. one.
I feel like even if you get max stats on Trophy Collector it still feels underwhelming given how long it takes to get there (and if it's quick, you're winning the game regardless and would have won quicker with a different item). If we get 10 stacks which will take a little time after eventually buying the item:>+250 health (Extra Health gives 185)>+4.25m/s Sprint Speed (Enduring Speed gives 2.25 MOVE speed, much more useful)>+10% Ability Range (Mystic Expansion gives 20% on a single ability)>300 souls per minuteFor a 3k item that you HAVE to buy early, it just feels like it doesn't do enough useful things to justify itself. It's biggest strength is that it takes only 1 slot but I still feel like I'd rather just buy cheaper items that pay off immediately and then use the value I get from those to get souls/ objectives/ kills. I'm thinking of more useful things like:>Move Speed>Weapon/ Spirit Damage/ Fire Rate>Shields/ Lifesteal>Cooldown reductionThe obvious comparison is still Cultist which just feels so much more useful.
>>544364213did a seeker player just reach sentience or what
I don't think Trophy collector is bad on support Kelvin.He tends to rake up a lot more assist than most characters due to his mobility, he really can use the ability range and sprint speed boost to be an inter-lane ambulance.In theory it seems like a pretty good item on him, he doesn't require specific items after the lvl5 grenade power spiek, and it'd allow him to leave more farm to his team.I'll be testing that soon.
I've seen a couple videos of lash grappling someone in front of him but going backwards. How do I learn this power?
>Be Doorman>Eldritch entity larping as a wagie for a haunted hotel and actually likes roleplaying>Said hotel has kinda fallen to the wayside thanks to more spooky happenings elsewhere>Could have done something about it himself but he's so dedicated to his roleplay that he joins the patron ritual Uhh based?
>>544364213the 30 souls per min make it extremely annoying when trying to make a comeback against a fed mnk or shit like that
are you supposed to wait for your team mate to respawn to clear wave? some guy sperged on me for not waiting
Define when you should by trophy collector time wise and when you should have x stacks by 16:00 before you recoop your losses
>>544365710Yes, retard.
>>544365710yes, you are raping your lane if you clear when your lane mate isnt around to get souls as well
Can I just like, block players that intentionally troll?
>>544365710More total souls for your team if you are duodenal. 130% instead of 100% you plus capabilities to secure souls if they try to deny
>>544365869>>544365912>>544366172nta but does this still hold true when the creeps are chipping at tower
Honest question: Why does no one build tesla bullets on Seven?
>>544366302if the enemies are at your tower you dont have a choice and you need to clear, but if they are just sitting at the tower you should not kill them and let them die naturally, try to never take a solo wave before 8 minutes
how fast does vindicta move flying vs her listed ground speed?
>>544365710It depends, if the guy is on the zipline and there's no immediate threat, it's better to wait.But understand that when it comes to farming, people are extremely selfish and will moan about optimizing and sharing farms only when it benefits them and will rarely extends the courtesy for you, your teammates goal is to pop off as much as possible on their own, winning is just a very important yet secondary goal to them.So either focus on your farming and be selfish, or be more optimal and play into your retarded teammates desire ( Which is perhaps the wiser option long term ).>>544366302Obviously not.
>>544366390btw this applies majorly to laning phase, dont ever let a wave hit your walker and its even ideal for certain heroes to be left to solo farm waves post laning phase, also dont ever split a wave 3 ways or more if possible at any point, the only reason this should be done is if you are fighting or pushing as a group
>Shiv clearly got a parry cheat, he's too crisp with those fucking parries>buys rebuttal even when Im not in his lane >in three different chaotic teamfights he parries me and two of my teammates even when one of them was out of the room>still nobody believes me, not even my teamThis cocksucker is the third Shiv I seen with cheats, those playing monkey pciking fucks are so annoying.
I've been participating in deadlock discussions, saving memes and making fanart of the the game for months and I literally never played it beyond doing a tutorial once.
>>544366560>also dont ever split a wave 3 ways or more if possible at any point, the only reason this should be done is if you are fighting or pushing as a groupdoes ganking count as fighting as a grouponce enemy guardian is down part of me wants to rotate for a gank to try and be helpful but i always feel bad about fucking up econ for my teammates in the process
>>544366302Yeah at that point just kill them, but I usually stop shooting them at a neutral spot if my lane buddy dies and focus only on denials.>>544365749You need 10-12 stacks by the time you feel like the game is going to end in 10 minutes to at least get a return on cost, but by then you wouldn't be buying more items. If pros end the game sub 25-30 minutes I'd sell if I didn't have 8 or so stacks by 18 minutes.
>>544366834it does but minimize the time you spend on that gank, dont linger for instance because you rapidly lose value from any roaming or ganking the longer you spend splitting those waves, your team should generally prioritize opening up the map by taking guardians but the opportunity cost is not getting full wave value on other waves or not spending time clearing jungle for instance
is the matchmaking in games like Dota and LoL as bad as this game?
>>544364213Souls is not only money, it's also experience, which translate into boons (spirit, hp, damage) and ability points. You get much more from the souls that you are given than just money to spend in the shop. People tend to forget that. Certain heroes, that usually tends to also want increased ability range, scale really well with points into their abilities, think of the more supporty heroes. Trophy and/or Cultist are both great purchases on those heroes. On many heroes, I buy both of them and maintain a 75% winrate when I do.People often say that I grief, but they are not blessed with the knowledge that I possess.t. Eternus player
>>544367198I cant believe it katkooten posts in our general too
>had to uninstall the game for a bit because i keep playing deadlock in my dreams and this night i couldn't sleep because of it
MOST HONEST ORACLE EVER
I keep trying to play new heroes, only to crawl back to the ones I know and love.
>>544367368>infernus shiv mo AND hazeKys
>>544367368kys
>>544367198>>544367293I saw some guy absolutely seething a few days ago in the official discord about katkooten lol
>>544366813You're as much of a fan as a die-hard who's spent thousands of hours playing, anon. Don't let anyone tell you so otherwise.
>feeder pauses the game to cry>I call him a fag>After the game he tags me in the official discord crying I called him a fag>the entire discord laughs at him
>>544367479>>544367454dont worry that was only spirit echo shard haze
>>544367667>>544367513kys cord'troons
paige melees you by summoning a spiky scrotum with three testicles from her book and slapping your chin with it
>>544367293>katkootenHuh? Who?
>>544367923I never ever use it, just check it for updates. Heard a discord ping and kek'd hard
>>544367667and then everyone clapped
>>544367667uh oh... gaben won't be too happy about this!
>>544368214Leagueniggers fail to understand what kind of company valve is.
>>544367359I have dreams I'm playing games all the time. I find them depressing, like I could be fucking a pornstar in my dream but instead my brain is like "no, this is more reflective of your life xd nerd"makes me want to get the rope
>>544368495I used to yell valorant callouts in my sleep next to my gfIts common for me to have gaming dreams if I played a game for hours before bed
>>544368554yeah yeah great im sure your girlfriend was unhappy poor you
>>544368495>dream about hitting fat bebop hooks across the map>wake up>play bebop>miss
>>544359513you can consider healing tempo too, use 3 or combo with radiant regen and use quantum entanglement before running people down for maximum fun (it's still pretty bad though)
>>544368495I had a dream where I was invading a house on a hill as a knight then when I got there adam silver was on there in a secret meeting with the evil knight then I got scared off and regrouped with my allies today.
>>544368663>Dream about carrying as lash>Wake up>Don't carry as lash>Still have fun because lash The magic will wear off eventually.
>>544368663i have the opposite happen where i play significantly worse in my dreams. like choking the most free kill of my life because suddenly my arms turn to jelly and i cant aim anymore>>544368495take the lucid dream pill anon. start yume nikki maxxing
>>544368759I'm surprised you play Deadlock, Kyrie.
When the FUCK are we getting the jungle and midboss updates? This is going to solve so many issues the game currently has. They can design jungle creeps to counter or be weak to certain damage types/heroes and they can make the midboss an actual threat and not just an oversized damage check.Not to mention the possibility of another mid game objective.
>>544368663sometimes an ability won't be working or my character won't move or other bizarre stuff>>544368759>Adam Silver made an appearancethat's a good one, I like it when they have real elements
So now that we know we are not getting updates THIS YEAR where is the leaks to hold us over
>>544368940December :)
>>544368214>>544368083didnt ask
>>544368214>>544368083I asked, I care
>>544368796I look like uboa irl
>>544368614>>544368983i didn't ask, but i care
>>544368796I have a journal actually
>>544366356Too much electricity.
>was on a 7 game win streak>get games with passive allies>lose 3 in a rowI hate all people who play like this
>>544369645did you use your talky skills and tell them to do things?
>>544368940How would you update the jungle creeps and midboss brehs?
I've heard the matchmaking and ranks were updated a few weeks ago, so now when the dust has settled does it make any difference?
>>544369696if I wanted to micromanage I'd play an RTS
>there's already gay porn of Venator and Secret Agent
>>544369704THE RED CAMP NEEDS TO BE AS THREATENING AS ANCIENT CREEPSHAVE CAMPS CAST SPELLS AND SKILLS AT YOU THAT YOU NEED TO DODGEHAVE CAMPS RESISTANT TO GUN DAMAGE AND VICE VERSAGIVE MIDBOSS ROSHANS SKILLS
I like Venator at first, but then I remembered priests are pedos fuck that
>>544369709nope, youre still gay
>>544370051I'm not gay, I was banned twice for posting sexy Lady Geist and never for posting this Lash+Abrams image.
>>544369836it takes 5 seconds to say "hey let's play aggressive we're losing the lead"
this wraith just carried my gameI was surprised to see his itemsis this a sensible builds?
>>544369704Midboss doesn't give rejuv anymore. It instead gives a strong buff that lasts until death. Jungle creeps are themed around the location they are in. For example a sewer grate mob that holds the grate up as a shield which you have to melee for him to lower and be able to shoot him.
>>544367543Thanks for lifting my spirits up, bro
>>544370235I dont play wraith but it seems pretty standard, like I guess maybe tesla bullets is missing but idk, characters like wraith are very strong hybrid characters that get a lot from spirit items, merc mag is her biggest spike
>>544370235Surprised to not see much fire rate item but i guess surge of power and mercurial mag are enough.
>>544370246>which you have to melee for him to lower and be able to shoot him.Oh thats kinoId love to see them integrate melees more into pve combat
>>544370235normal wraith build, except most get spirit shielding instead of emblem and also dont tend to get suppressor
how do i teamfight as wraithi just die instantly basically
>>544370810stand behind your teamult the problem charactertp awayhold m1this is the most straightforward teamfight character in the game, you play front to back in 6v6 fights exclusively, just play like a complete bitch until youre comfortable enough that you know when to tp aggressively or ult specific targets
>>544370810If you're behind in souls, never teamfight.If you don't have the top 3 souls amount in the lobby, don't teamfight.Instead, be an asshole and smoke bomb and wait to shoot someone off the zipline for a free kill.
>>544370950i feel like I do no damage if I'm not right on top of someone
I'm sad that they basically only buffed Drifter's gun. Spirit Drifter is so much more fun to play but it's also kind of shit if you're playing against decent opponents
>>544371402you need to stand close enough that youre within your maximum range to do actual damage, but still behind your team, your job is to stay alive and do consistent damage, the other issue could be you can only hit headshots close range in which case work on your aim a bit, its not like you need to be constantly hitting them but youre definitely going to have a higher hs% at close range which is why that makes you feel like youre pumping
Paige is so much fun to play, but retarded teammates just make it so frustrating for you, and totally not worth to support them.
I want to learn Doorman, but I don't want to tank my rank. Guess I have to go make and use a smurf.
>>544371949just play gunman so landing abilities is optional and headshots are not
>>544371949he's one of the most braindead heroes in the game don't bother with an alt you'll have him down pat in 10 games
>>544371949>throw bell>if someone gets close to you, cart them>if you get into a bad situation, go through the door you set up before hand>if someone steps out of line, ult them>click headshe's easy. sure, there are all sorts of cool plays you could make, but 90% of doorman players aren't making them and are doing fine
>>544367368kill yourself
>>544371949I swear to God mobafags are so fragile it's insane
So many fucking tranny streamers playing Paige holy shit
How do you play Yamato?
>>544372823braindead low skill, high reward support so it tracks
https://tracklock.gg/players/1743672179>russian smurfing with his duoAHHH I HATE THEM SO FUCKING MUCH
>>544372879listen to orochimaru theme with deadlock on mute and then play by feel
>>544371949yea it took me less than twenty games to level my winrate and be able to do troll items like trophy collector and still winHe’s not insanely hard as people put him out to be, and matchmaking will probably put you with a m1gger and frontliner to actually do the heavy lifting
>>544372823No one's making you watch those streams specifically mate.
>every match i start playing well in someone disconnectsMAKE IT STOP LET ME ENJOY MY RARE HIGH MOMENTS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>544373027The fact they exist at all, let alone that many, is disgusting. Kill yourself for validating them
>>544373087Lol only to you. I've never met them. They don't impact me at all.
>>544372879splitshot + express shot + m2 spam
>>544373148Make yourself less reddit. You sound lactose intolerant
>>54437308mental illness
>>544373224No.
should midboss be more like roshan or nashorthoughts deadtards?
>>544362909Is this an automated post? I have seen this exact post hundreds of times now, what is the point of this? Is this information so crucial and necessary that it has to be repeated ad infinitum?
CALICO FUN??
>>544373435who the fuck is nashor
>>544373435how is it not that? they're just lazy and havent done anything for the temp version not even a name
>>544374032baron nashor in league
>>544373981yeah I think so, I really enjoy running into someone as a cat, arctic blasting them and then dropping cat shit on their face and one shotting them
>>544367293Katkooten's english is not this good
tonight I'm playing Deadlock and I'm having fun
you WILL farm the boxesyou WILL not fight the opposing laner you WILL model your entire gameplan around buff timersyou WILL build metayou WILL not have fun
>>544375987What if I told you there was a way to fight your lane opponents while also grabbing boxes?!
>buy trophy collector at 15 mins>suddenly my team wants to do nothing but jungle>3 trophy stacks at 30 mins
Is enchanter's emblem really that good? The stats seem meh
>>544376271>resist>regen>spiritall good and it's really cost efficient because it's all conditional
>>544366813*ivy discussions
>>544376271compare it to improved spirit
>>544376271actual broken item for the cost
>>544376271Early in the game where you get it, everyone does more spirit than gun. It's just good stats for like the first 20 mins until you can find room for Spirit ResThat being said, people are going Spirit Barrier more now. Because basically every lane can proc it but the shield also applies to gun
>>544376482N-no, I also talk about blue guy, electro racist guy and uuuh the fucking uuuuh door guy, yep, I like gay butler man lots
>>544376928Oh and Vyper, she is fun. Knife dandy guy is also cool I guess. I know and enjoy many deadlocks.
what does vindicta's level 2 ult upgrade (+100 max bonus damage) actually meanI assume it means +100 damage when the target is below 50% health but why does it say MAX bonus damageis there scaling for it based on their missing health or am I missing something
>>544377254There is a charge up time
>>544375987optomizing IS fun though, anonchama.
>>544377375so is it +100 damage when your rifle is fully charged then
Going to try learning Viscous since I enjoy Dynamo's 2. What should I know aside from practice goo fist/cube movement?
>>544377515fully charged AND enemy is below 50%, if it's not fully charged it's like an extra 50 damage
When will valve add a non-human hero that's appealing to look at?
>>544377662Splatter Shot - Punch - R2 with express/mystic shotMake people seethe at your surprising amount of burst.Be mindful of terrain, you can puddle punch off anything. Try not to punch your team mates unless you are trying to save them. Cube into puddle punching a team mate from a wall is a really nice save
>>544377680ok yeah I just tested it myself and you're right, the bonus damage on execute seems to just scale up from +50 to +100 in the same way that the base damage does with the 1 second charge up>>544377762mina isn't human so they already have
>>544377762>non-human>appealingrace traitorpray for heaven in your final hour
>>544377762pic unrelated?
>>544377762>a non-human hero that's appealing to look at>valveIt'll be a miracle if that happens, they're incapable of such a thing, we're lucky that Mina twisted their arms enough to smack them out of their "unique but hideous" design philosophyYou don't have to make characters ugly to make them unique but Valve really seems to think so
>guy seethes at me for doing this >>544376207>he is on my team again and immediately manually jumps to a different zipline forcing me to 1v2 for a bit>still win the lane and game by forcing an enemy i ganked to rage quitlol
Is there a mod that gives vindicta some loafers or somethingwhat shoes did they wear in the 1600s
>>544378071I am sure peasants just wrapped their feet in animal skins or something no way they can afford a cobbler's work
>>544378071No but theres a mod that gives her a fat fucking ass in thong bikini. Drifter has the best mod skins with fancy and Hank.
>>544378118ok but if a peasant was transported to today he'd probably appreciate a nice 50 dollar pair of sneakers>>544378194>giant ass mod>no mod to give her shoesgrim
>>544378289>ok but if a peasant was transported to today he'd probably appreciate a nice 50 dollar pair of sneakershttps://youtu.be/6UrA-ersMAYVindicta disagrees
>>544378071Why would a flying corpse need shoes?
>>544377802R2?Also how often should I expect to be using his 4 for escaping compared to fighting?
>>544378375>you can rescue beam while flyinglol>>544378418everyone needs a comfy pair of shoes
>>544378479>>you can rescue beam while flyingWas a solid pick on Vindicta for a very long time until the rescue beam CD was nerfed to like 50 seconds
>>544377938>pray for heaven in your final hourWhy would I want to do that? Playing DEIlock in the first place makes you ineligible for the pearly gates, anyways.
>>544378618I can imagine playing against it being annoying since she can just grab a teammate out of a bad position into the sky but it's not giving her any particularly useful stats for killing peopledoes it work on teammates stuck in mokrill / dynamo ults?
>>544378852>does it work on teammates stuck in mokrill / dynamo ults?Yes, it also fucks over Lash even after he's grabbed somebody with the rope. In the case of Krill though Mo & Krill will be pulled with your ally
>>544378904>Mo & Krill will be pulled with your allyconsidering the animation that he does I figured it would make his target immune to being moved, weirdfunny though in the case of duration extender mokrill using a 4s ult just to get pulled across the map with his target
>>544378438Right Mouse button bro, His guns alt fire.You can use his ult for escape or for offense, depends what you need to do.You can just split push an enemy walker and gooball away and play like that. Or you can be looking for teamfights to roll on people with your team.If you are going to die if you dont gooball away though you should probably goo ball away, though you have puddle punch and cube to help escape too.
>>544379104m2 bro.
>>544378375Abrams is a little too enthusiastic when he says "be my guest"
>Your life had value. I'm sorry... *teabags you*
>>544377802as fun as the express shot burst build is, the lack of tower damage really sucks so I just end up going normal gun items anyway. That said, try addding splitshot to it
got matched against my first aim hack hazeI lost :/
>>544378071You VILL enjoy ze feets
Does anyone else feel like Drifter's first M1 has a clunky hitbox? Even when I'm dead centre it feels RNG whether it hits, but the second swipe always lands as intended
>>544380364To clarify, I meant for securing souls. Hitting people I rarely have issues
Is Return Fire that fucking shitty? Maybe because Im new to the game but I never seen someone buying the item. The item reads like a very shitty Blademail.
>>544377802>r2HEY EVERYBODY!THIS GUY USES A CONTROLLER
>>544376271meh stats in 5 different categories for only 1600
>>544377762I'm fairly sure we will get a succubus eventually even if Mina somewhat got the Queen of Pain kit.
how it feels to get CDR from gold statues
>>544361152I'm just questioning how Dynamo's skills play into it, melee Vinny is a meme build but it uses all of her skills 100%.
Take the Sharpshooter drifter pill>completely eliminates fall off damage because the +20% buff exceeds his max range>turns your weakest range into your strongest(from -18%to -90% to a flat +70%), insta gibbing runnersYou dont want to get it early tho, just after you get fleetfoot or whatever your preferred movespeed item is
>>544381721>Makes one of the slowest heroes in the game even slower
>>544381557Stomp gives a damage amp and quantum entanglement gives a reload+firerate buffSo the general idea is you get firerate early(something conditional like Kinetic dash because it will be higher stats), then combo its buff with the damage amp from stomp(mathematically it works out better to have 1 fire rate+ 1 damage instead of 2 of either)They you use quantum entanglement to reload and give another firerate buff +ammo
>>544381557lock em in place with stompsentangle to reload your gun + firerate + dodge their stupid skillsheal to go fastult to... oh wait that's his best ability. would make a lot more sense to build around that instead of gun
>>544381859>after you get fleetfoot >in addition to the passive skill 3 +2ms Also 7ms is about middle of the pack.
>>544381943i've seen high elo players like yinliner do well with gun dynamo but i always think to myself that he would do even better if he just went an actual fucking ulti build
>>544381943>>544382009*300s cooldown blocks your path*Refresher is the only ult item you should buy
>>544381721he already has above average fall off rangethe real murderpill is express shot + headhunter + decay>decay + mark someone >brings them to half>teleport in>instant 800 damage
>>544382202The actual falloff ramp is brutal cause its only 5m from max to minIf an enemy is between 22-27 they have already escaped, each meter is an additional -18%
>>544382318It should be noted 25m is also iso range
>>544369924Don't worry, like everything they are better in fiction, just like monarchs, pirates, crime bosses, knights, ninjas etc.
>>544378071I've been looking for a mod that gives her completely out of place big ass sneakers, even better if they replace her footsteps with squeaks.
>>544381912>>544381943I seeSeems pretty fun
>>544383253Repost if your interested Gun Hybrid Dynamo v2Opener>mystic burst>Kinetic dashPlay passive until stomp t2, use Kinetic to get close and stomp. Kinetic firerate will overlap with stomp damage amp for early powerspike. Order is dash-jump, stomp, mag dump, optional qe to reload. If your lanemate does literally anything its first bloodLane>cold front>close quarters>rapid rounds>Extra charge> regen>swiftstriker>Healing boosterAfter getting stomp to t2 you want to max your heal out to t3 so it doesnt cuck youMidgame>warpstone/maj leap/veilwalker Your choice, just need something to help land ults. Phantom strike is good but expensive and you want to be online early>point blank>blood tribute(or burstfire if its hard to manage the actives)You are using the opening combo to rape peopleLate game>refresher>healing tempoTotals: 9.6k gun, 9.6k vit, 9.6k spiritRest left open for flexibility but would reccomend stacking t4 greens, dynamo base hp w/ boon is 2nd highest so these will scale best at this stage, the gun falls off. Sell coldfront if u want unstoppable
>>544383253It would work better I think if you just did a typical stomp build but tacked on a few more gun items.>rapid recharge + arcane surge + tankbuster + headhunter + surge of power + range expansionthen something that gives ammo, maybe vamp shot
>>544367368>spams mo, haze and nigfernus>still stuck in OracleNah you dogshit
>>544381429how it feels to get +9 spirit from a sinners
push pocket who uses his annoying escape to threaten walkers constantlygood idea?
>>544383898Yes pocket gun damage is slept on, it needs ammo tho
https://www.twitch.tv/fitzyhere/clip/GoodTemperedBillWow-jkE-zZW_s2hZKniO
>>544383898Yes, all you need is mystic shot + cult sac and you can kill a walker in one reload.
>>544377991how do you gank if you're 1v2
>>544383694I think stompmaxxing is less egregious than ult maxing because the lower cd but still think its suboptimal because of how good it is with minimal investmentIve never felt like i needed a wider stomp so I just skip the +range stuff and the knockup is so short that +duration doesnt do much
Valve takes a vacation latter half of december so we might get the patch early to mid decemberBros...
ult dynamoexcept he stacks resistances with witchmail
>>544385602Im witchmail pilled but it would be too inconsistent on dynamo. He always has a ton of actives and witchmail proc can land on those
where are the male cock mods
Its kind of crazy how much cdr witchmail gives, yea it sucks that you cant choose where it goes but if you fight a seven for 10s(pretty average engagement imo) you get 40s of cdr
>>544384965No that was just for like 1 minute before someone else came over. Seven killed me in lane and "?" me. Then later in the game I dove him ~3 times and he left when he ended up 1-6 with nowhere to farmHe couldnt handle being BTFO so hard
>>544386270Since its flat seconds instead of % you probably want it on low cd heros instead of long stuff like blackhole
Why have I seen that, in the double sinner rooms, it's better to hit the first sinner once, then go the full rotation on the sinner, then go back to the first? Does it have something to do with where the sinners start lighting up?
>>544386851walking up to a guy and winding up a wallop is so cornylove it
>>544386851Is he okay?
>>544387642sure :)
>>544367359>>544368495I unironically had a dream where I was the Drifter two nights ago. I've never had a dream where I'm PLAYING a game but in this dream I was the Drifter walking around victorian London following a woman like I was jack the ripper. The scenery was very eerie like it was out of a Paul Delvaux painting, cobble stone street wall to wall in a narrow allies but flying buttresses and small baroque terraces overlooking the route. The lighting was this cold nearly monochrome darkness with an unplacable ambient light. The woman was in a long tight dress and bonnet the drifter wore a top hat and a peacoat. He wasn't smiling, he was just quietly hiding behind the corners following the woman as she briskly walked these weird dream scape. You can imagine how it ends knowing the drifter. Because it was so monochrome the white of her back was almost glowing and the blood was really bright and vivid.I have multiple long dreams every night and they're all very vivid and fantastical so this wasn't that odd. I think that same night I also dreamed about cute animals in the jungle discovering alcohol in fruits
>>544386504Yeah basically, by hitting a sinner once then finishing the other one you automatically line up the jackpot cycle, so all you have to do with the 2nd one is to hold melee.Technically it's better to do webm-related where you do the first sinners, then you check which cycle you got and even if you got the 2nd to last / last lightbulb cycle you can just keep on holding down the heavy melee, strike the other sinners once then go back to the finished one to still be in cycle to get the reward from it, then go back to the one you hit once and keep on holding the melee, it will automatically line up the jackpot so you wont even have to time it.Depending on which cycle you got from the first sinner and depending on which double sinners room you're at (the mirrored one has a bigger distance between the sinners) you might have to do some slight manouvers with the heavy melee so you hit with it sometimes earlier sometimes later.
>>544389068>start maining drifter>dream about killing and r*ping womenmaybe a hero change?
>>544389275isn't this rng?after the fourth hit, when the lights start ticking, the amount of lights it has to tick up is random
>>544389068samefagging but this pic also reminded me of how the alley looked in the dream. Maybe this conveys it better. So imagine Drifter walking around something like this but a bit more city-like
>>544389428The other method is also RNG, the reason this one is better is because you can minimize the down-time of having to wait for the lights if you happen to get the bad cycle of missing the auto-timing by filling that gap with hitting the other sinners.
>>544389068Did you post any clips of the melee ivy mogging you yet
>>544389068holy fuck that mina kill was cinema. Meleeing around corners is goofy
It's really fun when you get to lane with the obviously braindead retard that was carried by his op hero to your rank, (nigfernus, wraith, haze and all that bullshit.) They have zero idea how to lane, don't buy proper sustain when pressured, do no damage and keep getting in shit positions because in my most recent case the retard had the braindead teleport escape of wraith.
>have 8 heroes selected>some on highest priority >get low priority makrill everytimei'm tired boss...
Is there a worse feeling than accidentally unlocking the wrong ability first on game start?
Witchmail vindictaVinny cooldowns are the lowest in game so the flat 4s reduction is most efficient on her. The values in parentheses is the the 4s converted to a percentage of the skills cooldown. Witchmail has a 1 second cooldown and needs only 75 spirit dmg to procStake cd 20s(20%)Flight cd 42s(9.5%)Crow cd 16s(25%)Ult cd 30s (13.3%)With superior cooldownStake cd 15s(26.7%)Flight cd 31.5s(12.7%)Crow cd 12s(33%)Ult cd 22.5s (17.7%)
>>544391706Okay but how are you going to proc witchmail without just getting instantly bursted and killed?It works on tank characters because they don't die if they take 750 spirit damage, which wouldn't even be 10 procs because of the inbuilt CD.
how do i make my characters tanky? i always feel like i get exploded no matter how many green items i buy unless I am playing victor with leech
>>544391706The problem with Vinny is surviving the damage in the first place.
>>544391976nta. But maybe using Diviner's Kevlar, Vinny can easily proc it on cooldown, on demand with just one charge of her ult, 35 spirit is also really nice.But that's already 12k worth of items.
>>544391989You should get some actual healing, debuff remover is the best item in the game and the other healing items aren't even that bad to build on most builds.Also don't fight alone against multiple people. The best way to be tanky is to just not get caught out alone.
>>544389068More proof that Drifter is a canonical rapist
>>544392013Its just concept at this point haven't tested live. I was surprised vinny had the lowest cd 2bh, I was looking for the lowest cd ult because this is the usual pain point for witchmailI think best case scenario would be haze fixation, just enough to trigger it on cd without exploding you
>>544358993Pocket is fun
>>544393391pocket if he was good
>>544389275She claims another.
Anyone has a goo billy build? also when should I buy the thanky items? mid game?
>hold up myself really well in Archon gameAlright, that's my goal then.Once I reach Archon, then I can stop playing this shitty game.
>>544394439uh oh
Did Miku guiness get nerfed in the last few months? Everything about her feels like shit now
>>544393391Why can't we have this officially?
>>544392861why dont people build it on victor for INFINITE RESPAWN
>>544394765Used to but it's not worth it anymore. It was good when spirit resist was king for Victor but it's better to just stack more lifesteal and damage now. You get more out of building most other t4's. Witchmail is still good on Victor but it'd better spent getting something to cover his weakspots, like plated armour if they have any m1ggers.
>>544393660Pocket is one of the most OP characters in the game
>>544394765Also it doesn't work on the self damage if that's what you were thinking.
>>544395375imagine how much better he would be if he was a hot girl THOUGH
>>544389068>The woman was in a long tight dress and bonnet.>Because it was so monochrome the white of her back was almost glowing and the blood was really bright and vivid.boner why...
So tired of kelvin every single game.
>>544395909The only way to guarantee Kelvin isn't on the other team is... you know what you need to do
>>5443947653 is a wiff,ultimate is also kind of a wiff, 2 is also kind of a wiff. Id only want it proccing on painbatteryOn vinny even tho she wouldnt get as many procs, they are all value htis and bigger percentage wise
>>544395909>>544396150If you aren't a complete braindead chromie it's genuinely impossible to lose a lane as kelvin. You will always have massive impact throught the whole game, and it's such tedious boredom to play against.
>just lost lane guardian at 3 min because I couldn't kill minions faster than fucking haze + mcginnisWhat the fuck was I supposed to do I didn't even get a chance to buy monster rounds
>>544396404It can't proc on anything but 2 and ult.
>>544396526what hero? also what hero was your lanemate and was he a mouthbreather?
>>544396526>can't out-creep HazeMiku I understand, but Haze is really shit at killing creeps early on...
>>544396996If you think Haze is bad at it early you should play more of the roster. She still has a bullet hose and can go early monster rounds+passive.
Why is Talon allowed? If his team bunch up to him he can't be beaten
>>544396553Really? That seems weird cause cdr affects 1 and 3
>>544398234It can proc on 3 but only the between CD if you flicker it but you won't be flickering it.And it doesn't proc on 1 because your 1 is tied to your max health, CDR just lowers how much max health you need to lose to charge it.
>>544365280How though? I feel like I'd rather gain those souls by clearing waves, jungling, taking objectives, getting kills etc, which is all easier by getting other items that are cheaper and have immediate value. Which all push the game state in our favor.
>>544398530I did not know that it only procs on currently ticking cooldowns, doesnt that make it way better? Cause you can reliably increase your odds
>>544364213This item is god tier in my unga bunga brooooool mmr so I just build it on everyone now unless I'm going cultist.
>>544398902>doesnt that make it way better? Cause you can reliably increase your oddsYes that's exactly why it's better to get on heroes with only a few spells that are incredibly important. There's not many heroes like that in the game right now that can afford to build witchmail so it's a bit of joke item
>>544397718Problem Paleface? I honestly think he's fine, it's just he's one of those cancerpicks everyone will hate.
>this ended my 9 game winstreak last nightMore proof that Valve sends hitmen into your games when you do too well
>>544399893There's no way in hell he should be 4 stam by default. That's actual fucking insanity. Unless you're a total braindead retard moron you will never find yourself in a situation where you're out of stamina even in combat.
>>544399492Idk what you mean by "afford to build" cdr is the best stat in the game, its not some luxury you get after the fact. It warrants being a build centerpiece
>>544400206duuuude spirit shiv!!! knife!!
>>544399893dunno he has a lot of tools to get away
sometimes I really wonder who it is we sex with
>>544400206Is the only way to win as shiv to build radiant regen in lane and then pivot to guntank? Every shiv I've seen do well builds like that.
>>544399893he's a male wearing earrings, what a fucking queer
>>544400819DOORMAN
>>544400509You musn't play in high rank games. 2 t4 items in any build is really pushing it because games there end after the first midboss kill ~20 mins in
>>544400819Paige's hairy logcutter.
>>544400862he walks the trail of queers
>>544400738he just walks faster late game, has 1 more stamina and can fly (doesn't covers a lot of distance/is slow as shit outside dashing)the thing is GT players know this and play way more passively because you still deal 1k damage per arrow from the other side of the map
>Dynamo with heal build>Kelvin>Mcginnis>0 anti healingI love low ranks.It's basically free wins.
>trying seven out for the first time>3 matches>consistently behind on farm, eating shit constantly, and unable to fightI don’t know what I’m doing wrong…
>>544402176you are playing seven, who currently is the weakest hero in the game
>>544402176easily the worst hero in the game literally have to tell my seven laner to stop playing the game because of how bad players and he is as a hero
I still don't get how to build gun heroes
>>544402176You are getting shot in your big fat head with your regen being the same as other heroes with tiny little heads so your laning is a lot worse. Yes Seven takes less headshot damage but that doesn't change a thing. You don't have a higher than nominal base regen anymore and you can't use scorn to full heal like Makrill can so you're on the backfoot from the very beginning if the enemy knows what they are doing
>>544400971it could easily be one of those t4 because it gives cdr, there is plenty of builds with tranny cooldown. Deadlockers are just allergic to green that dont give mobility
>>544397718It's really jarring, Vindicta has a lot of safety precautions that seem to stem from Valve experience with Snipers to make sure she wasn't an absolute cancer to fight: >the bright scope flash + sound + the laser pointer revealing her position.>the scoped damage building up to 100%.>only dealing high damage when the enemy is below 50% >damage falloff on her regular gun so she has to engage with fights like the other chars.Even with all that she was still cancerous to fight some updates ago.Then you have Talon, who is exactly like Vindicta but with none of the safety precautions, lo and behond he is absolute cancer to fight as anyone.Were these two characters designed by different people or something?
I need a lore video where Mirage is aggroed into a bowling match with Nashalah's approval to defend the glory of all djinns. He is a cool character and deserves more attention. He could even think "for the djinn..." with a lot of reverb as he throws the last ball
Would Doorman play log bait?
What should my split be on green/purple for victor?
>>544402648 Fire rate is better than damage generally because a mix calculates better and fire rate items come with damage from being orangeFire rate doesnt work well on burst fire guns(only shortens the gap between bursts)Flat damage (headshot booster) is better early, armor shred is better lateConditional effects(Kinetic dash, 30% for x seconds) will have higher values than passive effects of similar price(swiftstriker, 20%)Gun scales better in the late game because it is usually % and will struggle early vs spirit which is usually flat values
>>544402916Which type of bowling are you thinking about right now?
BLEED
What's the best build for Breast Paige atm? I think it has a lot of potential
>>544400484I agree, I was thinking mostly of his abilities in general.
>>544403816STAKING EM>goes 0/11
>>544402945doorman would play miner control
>>544402834vinny was nerfed, GT was not. It's really that simple.
>>544403816SOFTENING 'EM UP
>>544402834don't forget an ult which gives him more dmg if he gets an assist.
>As of now street brawl is not on its own map it's just on blue lane, rest of map is blocked off>It's still round based, with a set number of souls and boons to spend - first team to kill the walker wins the roundlaaaaaamemake it its own map
>>544402916I imagine he mutters that before hitting a strike. He's carried by a great VA too
>>544372879https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-jGHC2Hkvg
>>544404605I mean it makes sense. They're still just testing the flow and pace of the game mode.
>>544403983>Express Milk>Nipple Resistance>Titanic Bra>Ethereal ShiftThis is what I run for a milk run build
>>544405390>no aerola wardshitlow
>>544404605How fast do you destroy the walker in a normal game bros?This means srreet brawl might be 10-15 minutes max?
>>544405529It's a crutch. Nipple Resistance is all you need if you have good positioning
>>544405390>nipple resistance>ethereal shiftI know breast builds are seeing a growth in the meta but the synergy is to lean into nipples rather than resist them. Why not Extra Breast or Siphon Milk?
>>544404605>caltrops????Yamato loses her bomb?
are the public builds generally good if theyre at the top/ near the top of the list? been playing through the roster while learning the game and been picking one of them based on their apparent credentials
Trying to play Kelvin but nothing seems viable.Am I just meant to spec into gun and rape people in the dome?
>>544406818Most of the top builds are absolute dogshit you need to give them proper scrutiny before locking in on them
>>544406935For like, dps? Gun seems to be a bit cracked. But Kelvin isn’t meant to be dps. You disrupt, harass, and heal and help confirm, not burst/carry. Also your 3 conflicts hard with going gun.
Thoughts?
>>544407396>would let a black person babysit his daughter
>>544407485Black people are great with kids they don't abandon. Calico and Wraith seem like good aunties
>>544407623>Black people are great with kids they don't abandon. Calico and Wraith seem like good auntiesThey regularly beat defenceless children and elderly that are left in their care thoughbeit
>>544407623what they're remorseless criminals/killers
>>544407485Calico is the only weird one, infernus and wraith are generally alright people. Bebop not being toptier is strange though.
>>544407859Infernus is only alright because he's an Ixian
>>544407756Yea so are people in jail irl. They still kill pedophiles for messing with children.
Infernus and Haze aren't niggers.Infernus is Ixian, and Haze is a white Glowie using an obfuscation spell.
>>544407396Vindicta literally doesn't care about anything except revenge, she is barely a character, much less a caretaker. Calico is a narcissist on top of an assassin, she ditched the group hunting down monster to go and kill people for money so you can't really trust her with the life of someone else, how the hell is she higher up than Mirage?
>>544407396this is genuinely a bait list with ho you have mobsters, assassins and POCs in S tier but Talon, Kelvin, Viscous, and Sinclair at the bottom. Also Lash unironically has a children's charity he puts his proceeds into. Don't see why Ivy wouldn't be S tier either
>>544408056>how the hell is she higher up than Mirage?>MirageLiterally a ward in charge of caring for the lives of a species incapable of self-defence for much of their life>CalicoRuthless assassin who holds no loyalties and will do anything for moneyMakes no sense, honestly
>>544408115Ivy needs at least three adults supervising her at any given moment, more so than the actual baby
>>544407396Mirage would be perfect, also you're insane if you leave your kids with Doorman. He would just send them to the Baroness saying:>one day your pet bunny will DIE>SANTA DOESN'T EXIST, IT WAS YOUR DRUNK UNCLE SHAGGING YOUR MOM
>>544408403Is there something you would like to share with the class?
>>544408483my eyes have been opened slayer, let me help you to see
>>544407396upvoted my good sir!
>>544407396Damn, why isn't Bebop S tier? He was made to assist an old lady with cancer, you think he couldn't watch some kids? Also Viscous. Even if he just cubed them for three hours instead of being a giant silly putty guy to hang out with, your kid could arguably come out better than before
Do you think maybe Infernus' grandmother is meant to be Ms Shelly? The way he asks Bebop about her makes it seems like he was disowned by his family but he's still concerned about her
>>544408870Unless that spikeball and lazer cannon are detachable I wouldn't trust him either
>>544408956my headcanon is that he either hurt her in the past (like killing his husband, for example), or she helped him to stop being a criminal
>huurur my daughterfuckin normies ree
>>544407396this made me angry so i did my own tier listask in case of questions
>>544409793geist would be dissmissive at most. I don't picture her hurting a kid, besides pretty sure she's a mother
Viscous interaction lines are a good check of if they’re good with kids or not.
>>544409948geist herself isn't THAT bad but if the oathkeeper tells her that he wants to eat a baby or even eat me then it'll be a disaster, never worth gambling on that
>>544408956he's ixian
>>544409793>yamato in sfail
>>544409793maybe i Want vyper to teach my kid how to pick locks, make prison, and kill people with whatever's strewn about. maybe all i can afford is the ten bucks she'd ask.
>>544410092lmao I forgot that, that'd be a golden sitcom. She has to take care of a baby for a while for publicity while her arm tells her to devour him. >>544410193>baby knows a slur in russian and how to make pruneau
>>544408313>a 20 year old who dismantled a cartel by herself needs supervisionNext you're gonna tell me dynamo is a danger to society
>>544409793Didn't Kelvin let a whole expedition die>>544410193Based based based
>>544410312The baby-fication of Ivy by some people is odd. She’s a bit naive about some things, very black and white morality, but she’s 20 years old and has spent most of that fighting a cartel, she’s not a child.
>>544410068visc means well but he is too naive about humanity for me to trust him with a kidi guess it'd depend on the age of the kid though>>544410172yamato is an evil bitch but she values family a LOT, if i somehow convinced her to babysit my kid then i can be sure that there's no way anything would happen to her>>544410359i don't think he did it on purpose (implying that the theory which says kelvin used to be a dick before losing his memories and recreating himself based on his own biased legends is true)some tragedy befell them and he just was the only one that could survive as far as we knowwould still check in because he's cold as fuck (literally not figuratively) so i'd be worried about my kid catching a cold or something
>>544410719Oh no I meant because of how Viscous is, how other characters interact with him is good for getting a sense of how they’d treat a child. Like Geist acts notably gentle (even when she puts hard lines about him trying to be a friend), Infernus being pretty good with him etc.
>>544410110One of his parents is black (human) anon
>>544411029should have fucking figuredfuck DEInfernus
>>544410719but why place Mo/Krill at the top, even if they're not necessarily killers, they're still criminals with questionable morals. Wraith is even worse because she is willing to act friendly while exploiting people for her own benefit
>>544407396If Mirage says he will look after your baby you can be damn sure you can believe him man. His whole thing is being a loyal bodyguard. As long as the baby doesn't threaten the djinns life I think its gonna be fine
>>544411493M&K are actually very friendly (and seem genuinely so) in pretty much every interaction they have, the only ones that get close to not being so are with the unrepentant killers like seven where it’s more “we can be useful and cordial please don’t kill us” type of wary friendly. They’re mercenary about things, not actively malicious.
>Warden mains be like
>>544389068Are all your dreams this schizo? I remember you posted about another dream you had where you sailed around the world with the grim reaper
>>544409793>male babysitters>ethnic babysittersI only call paige and maybe mcginnis if paige is busy
>>544411493they are really chill, have you not heard their interactions?even if they are blatant criminals with questionable morals in regards to who they work with they are just trying to get by and are pretty nice and caring people otherwise
>warden mains
>>544412327To guy who rec'd mixed warden, thanks. I don't think he'll ever be my proper main but he's a good secondary pick.
>>544412794That man is clearly maining shadow fiend
>first vic matchVictor is actually kinda fun. Feel like I should be grabbing an early warp stone or maj leap on him though. Feels way too slow without healing tempo + juggernaut.
>>544412942warden mains are sf mains?Damm based!!!
>>544373465I still don't know what "Valve Unoriginality" means. Seems like an esl poster.
>>54440302750/50 until 9.6k in each then 100% t4 spirit because it scales harder on him
I hope they add the ability to re-roll in that aram mode they're making. If I'm forced to play drifter I'm just gonna int the entire match just to hear that thing scream.
>>544414131isn't it a pool of x amount of heroes to pick from? you'll probably get 3 options and pick one
>>544414317sure hope so
warden ain't police retard
They need to reuse wardens current design for a Bobby character.
>>544415076pic
>>544414814larping as one is worse
>>544415613yeah yamato is larping as some kind of space alien right now, you right
>>544415660im just saying imagine thinking "cops are cool they're my heroes"warden would probably have snitched on you in middle school for cheating on your homework
>>544365140He's just visiting his old friends Amber Hand and Sapphire Flame like a nice person he is
>>544416351Sapphire Flame and Amber Hand are the names of the cults trying to summon the patrons thoughbeit
>>544407396To be honest I wouldn't let any of the cast to look after my kid.Maybe Paige, if I have to.
>>544414735FACE ME AND DIE
>warden: NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SUMMON THE PATRON AND WISH FOR A TIDDY GF WE HAVE TO STOP THEM NOOOOOOOOO
>>544416153I wouldn't blindly trust the system itself but I'm sure there's a bunch of good people working as cops, what's so wrong about that?
would an alien fir into the game's vibe?
>Get mohammerda, nigfernus, kancerlvin, heyahoya or nigbop.>50-50 it's either a cheating ttvnigger tier player or a braindead chromie carried to ascendant+ by the op hero. Absolutely no in between.
>>544418275>I'm sure there's a bunch of good people working as copsehhh
>>544418403the only alien I will accept is Yamato.
>>544418403They've got magical dimensions to pull shit from instead. Think Wrecker
>>544418403if they looked like this yes
>a stack of smurfs carrying their retarded friend>the retard is the only one spamming ezI guess he gets his anus prolapsed during actual games because he kept dying over and over despite having Viscous, Kelvin and McGinnis in his team
>>544418857>tfw I know a guy just like thisI'd never help him win games though that's on him for being a spastic.
>2nd vic game>73k player damageAs someone that doesn’t play carries this is like crack to me please don’t tell me self damage is counted in that.>>544413972Any in particular? My early high level spirit picks are torment pulse and eth shift. Should I be rushing escalating exposure?
>>544370138Not yet
>>544418827if they looked like this
>>544419016
This is what Seven should have looked like.
>>544419087generic?
>teammates refusing to buy defensive itemsPlease shiv you need fucking armour.
>>544419273BLEED >>544400206
>>544419087They just need to give some more detail to his pants. Seven is honestly a masterclass in character design/feel. I don't even like him but I can admit he's S tier in looks
>>544419087AI can do much better, do you even prompt?
Abrams should have looked like this.
>>544419087u the type a nigga to give him a electric guitar
>>544418827Source?
>>544418802>>544418403Wrecker is pretty much implied to be a grey alien.
>>544416762They go by many names I'm sure of it>>544414735Warden mains are the self-proclaimed anime MCs who would spend hours writing fanfictiction on how would they save X if they had the character's superpower/gimmick/mcguffin, whatever. Then they go write even more fanfiction in game on how they would 1vs6 if only the dumbass team listened to their 0/6 advice.
Pocket should of looked like this.
>>544418436you didn't answer the question
>>544419647Zero downsides there, will definitely be a gun cosmetic one day.
>>544419875Design is unironically better than Pocket but doesn't fit the narrative written in game.
>>544419604Is this some kind of bionicle or transformer or what is this
Ivy should look exactly the way she already does because not only is she cute but also pretty cool and with a charming personality
>>544420181I just wish spirit Ivy was more viable.
>>544420065yeah it was from the pre-mina days.
>>544409793Ivy, Paige, Bebop, Dynamo, 100% safe. Talon and Mirage are also safe, but probably aren't as interested and would have other business to attend to. Doorman sort of same, but also kinda suspicious too. Pocket would certainly be a lot kinder to the kid than good ol Papa Fairfax.
Geist should look like this
>>544420065Design is still shit just a different kind of shit
>>544420251CEOs still prefer to pass their industry to a son rather than a daughter
Ivy should look like this.
>>544419737xarop77
>>544420246I've been playing her recently with a spirit build following an anon's advice because gun feels useless right now. You can definitely do a lot of damage and even kill enemies if you trap them in the kudzu bomb with half health.
>>544409793Talon and Yamato abandoned their families, Ivy, MnK and Wraith are criminals, Paige is fucking stupid, Mirage has a dangerous job.List needs much more work to be passable.Also Viscous can just put the baby in a goo cube, it will be okay just covered in the green goo as a result.
>>544420373>preferit makes pockets parents trying to kill them make more sense.
>>544418857I get my shitter friend to spam EZ if we win and he didn't contribute if the enemy team was shit talking early on. I'm aware it pisses them off more lol
Landmine character that places invisible permanent duration landmines. No expiration, just a cap on how may are in the map. Not particularly effective, just annoying as fuck. Please. It would piss people off so much.>>544420592It’s not bad it just feels so god damn dependant on your team. You peel rather than burst. Fucking incredible debuff application though.
>>544420717>themLeave
>>544419768The Doorman has a voice line where he calls them Amber King and City Mother, this is the same as the stuff that was shown in the base leak IIRC
>>544420926:^)I was going to put him but realised in this case it would be her, and opted for the neutral term
mina should look like this
Slutty christmas dress Mina skin.
>>544420834I love landmine girls
>>544421046like generic anime coomerslop?
>>544421157>I love landmine girlssame>t. Asuka fan
>>544421206yeswhat are you, gay?
>>544418974At that stage boundless will be the best then spirit burn then tranny cooldown then Escalating
If you ever saw a 地雷系 grey alien looking bitch IRL you'd recoil immediately poser pieces of shit
Let's make a tier list, first reply picks the name/ theme, no fag shit.
>>544421046Ai could draw this better
>>544421287no I just have taste. There are probably over one million images that portray more or less the same thing as what you posted, and they all look the same. Dumb cattle.
>>544421383Not only would I recoil, I would attempt to kill it
>>544421157Me too.
>>544421446which one cracks the most bitches
Warden should look like this.
>>544420246spirit ivy is the best way to build ivy nowadays don't buy into the guntard propaganda
>>544421446If played by an intiate in an eternus lobby.
>>544421509>this good thing has TOO MUCH I want less of good thingyou're kind of an idiot
>>544421618But VVarden is a bloke
>>544421534Ok ill startMcginnis
>>544408115that feel when no gargoyle colossus gf(pelvis-shattering sex with big ivy)
>>544421446we need a tier list for inhouse players
>>544421534Sure>>544421645Actually funny might come back to this later.Next is tier names reply with a color and name for the tier. 1 per reply
>>544421940S Vyper, cause she's prison gay and you know what they're like in those american prisons
>>544421618HOLY YES!!!!
>>544421653you're kind of a troon
>>544422097projection, go back to league
>>544421653>this generic and boring thing has TOO MUCH I want less of generic and boring thingfixed your shittakekys troon
>>544422247projection, go back to league
>>544422369you're not beating the allegations faggot
Mina is literally perfect, with the sole issue of her Panties not being visible.
>>544421790>drama 'cord baitkys
>>544421653>I want less of good thingWhat good thing?
>>544421790There is already public leaderboard info pertaining to that though, it would be all the Eternus players and then irrelevant would be everyone else if they aren't on their region's leaderboard
too much trooning in my topicpost mina
>>544422207>>544422369>wants generic chinkslop whore designs like league's >calls others leaguefags???
>>544422452stop projecting, you're trying too hard
>>544422464
It is literally impossible to suffer with this item
>>544422682fuck off and take your shitty low quality tranime with you
>>544422716>Back in the day when you could get to like 8 stamina buying Knockdown, Point Blank, Superior Stamina, etc.:(
>>544422464>>544422697 like this
>>544422716I wish I could fit it in my build
>>544422801stop projecting, you're trying too hard
>>544420651Talon neglected his already grown son's family. And his whole character is regretting that, I think if he agreed to watch a kid he'd fuckin die for that kid.
>>544422853>low quality shitposter is only capable of making low quality shitpostsneck rope asaplast (You)
Damn, anon got raped so hard he's now stuck on the one NPC reply he's got.
>>544422805i miss those daysi remember superior stam gave you 3 stamina, not 2, and boosted yiur spirit in the second air jump/dash so it was the best lash item everi also remember whrn lash's 1 scaled better from meters so you could actually make the meteor playstyle work in its own (we didn't have counterspell and spellbreaker back then)
>>544421618True that, soulja!
>>544423079who are you talking to?
>>544423054stop projecting, you're trying too hard
>>544423041>And his whole character is regretting thatHis whole character is revenge and being ready to die, definitely not a good mindset to have unless you'd like to kid to get in a dangerous situation for Talon's attempt at healing/character development.
>>544422716I use to never buy it because I thought it was a crutch but my god the mobility. Too bad games rarely go long enough for me to want to go it unless the enemy team is chasing me like retards constantly.
>>544423276Nobody in particular, otherwise I'd just reply directly
>>544421618What would that accomplish
>>544423367Kinda why I put the>if he agreed topart in there. I'd call it reasonable that he'd never agree to it in the first place given his current aim for revenge/death. But the list seems to be predicated on the idea that the various horrible murderers/monsters of Manhattan would be up for it.
counter spell shouldn't work on ultimates, or give some ultimate a property of pure damage or being uncounterable.
>>544423243>>544423672Marriage.
>>544423845counterspell should be fully unnerfed but made into a t4
>metro just claimed to be bisexualNope, he's gay.He's a furfag and all furfags are gay.
>>544423782Even if he set his personal vendettas aside (which is definitely not happening), there are also powerful and murderous people after him. Everyone around might be caught in the crossfire.He simply emanates AND attracts danger, its an extremely bad idea to be vulnerable around him.
>>544421618Calico should have looked like this
>>544424128No, this.
>>544424071Im surprised he didnt pull the troon card yet, hes mentally unstable after all
>>544424128Nah Calico should look like this.
>>544424278whenever i see a content creator unironically have fagshit like pronouns in their social media i immediately assume closet fag
>>544421790A>ta assassin/john deadlock, shallow graveB>Croc, Torture Yoshi, BombyantiC>Bury Nice, Aruru, Raiva, GamepodD>Serenethers, Merk, Sexless, Mark Maverick Skins, SadoF (annoying faggots)>DeadlockedTFin/Breezy, Meppz
>>544424313Goddamn when you see a chocolate momma with this kind of fashion sense, you just know
>>544424380You are forgetting the finnish lad (he dropped the game again unfortunately) and the guy who hit E6 recently (he's at like 150 on the EU leaderboards right now), and of course Song of Silk
>>544424380Raiva on F he's an annoying chain-feeding shitter that leaves every other game half-way through, not even that one Dynamo main that was a /d2g/ lolcow was such a raped bitch
>>544424849Where is he these days? Wasn't he also the d2g rubick dude?
>>544424051>>544423845Counterspell is perfect as is and any other opinions are midwit trash. 3200 for an item that allows you to outplay your opponents is good game design.
>>544424927I can't even remember his name and you expect me to know where he is?
>>544424569oh yea Patch notes:A>LaastiB>Saga, BisonF>Raiva, Song of Silk>>544424849true he ragequits and whines too much
>>544423562nvm i misunderstood
WIN LANELOSEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
>>544423845Counterspell should be buffed to finally bully all Wraith, Pocket, Lash and Bebop players into suicide
Gamemode with 1/4 soul gain and 400% tower health please and thank you I enjoy lane phase I want Lane Phase: The Gamemode please.
>lose lane>get carried anyway
bison can suck my dick, gatekeeping autist
>>544425310Alright thats a first
>>544425310Game needs ranked based turret HP. It should be 300% in Eternus and 50% in Initiate
>>544421618>>544423243When the hell are they adding an ixian girl?
>>544424849Imagine going into a closed group game where everyone sees your ass and knows from which corner of the internet you're from and then acting like a total bitch. What's the logic there, dodge an abandon?
>>544424380I have played a bunch of games the last few days so im sad im not there ;(
Is the point of the hideout that we would be able to customize it at some point? Call me a slop cosmetic consumer, but I like the idea that some kinda quest mechanic (likely a battle pass, unfortunately) would be tied to unlocking furniture and stuff to place around your own little menu area.
>>544425798Wasn't there a literal semen demon succubus hero in the files?
>>544426198well i feel like that's where it's going, considering that there already seems to be a basic system for it (since you get a snowglobe if you were around during christmas)
>>544426198Secret base idea was fun and under utilized street gen3
>Seven fed like his life depended on it>Haze left me alone in lane to farmSometimes, the loss is so absolute that I don't even get upset.
>>544425845I spent this weekend clearing backlog games toothe whole time I was thinking I could be IMPROOOOOOOVING right now
>>544422716Reminder this is core on MinaFor some reason yoahi made her stam regen 4s compared to the rest of the cast at 5s(except Kevin at 6s)If you get stam mastery and arcane surge you regen stam in 2.9s>>544425638Time based will already do that because eternus is 25m avg and initiate is 40m avg>>544426198I think its just somewhere to fuck around in while waiting in q but flexing on the poors would be pretty cool
>>544426334The "I voted" stickers also stayed.
>>544426494>Time based will already do that because eternus is 25m avg and initiate is 40m avg>Eternus lobbies>Game is quit close, tight fights/farm is similar>1 person makes a mistake near blue and somebody else also dies>Midboss>Game endsReally hope the December patch fixes this shit
>>544368083yessir we gonna ban a no-life schizo that gives us 1k dollars a year because he insulted you a free-gaming enjoyer
>>544420327This is literally just paige but bluedo better
>>544424849What ever you do, do NOT check this guy's posts in the official Valve discord server for Deadlock.
>>544426668>>544426860Qrd on both I love drama but can't join the discord anymore
>>544425798hopefully never because it would detract from chadbrams
>>544425112>LaastiIsn't that the guy we see in in-houses?
Ever since I made it to Phantom my games have been a lot more fun and active. Feels like how the game should be played. Compared to how my previous games felt like a coinflip, on whether you have teammates with a developed frontal lobe.
>>544426375had a lot of improvements in the Gen 3 remakes
>>544427074It's a list of inhouse players anon. He's not played Deadlock (pubs) in like 2/3 weeks though so he probably dropped game for a bit again
>>544427116I'm still baffled my rank is Phantom, seems utterly impossible to me.
>>544426236Cadence, yeah. Infernus has a voice line referring to her singing at Jezebel's still so maybe she is still in the back of the dev's minds.
>>544427116>Make it to Phantom>Have fun>Play literally any hero outside of my main two>Get put in Emissary / Archon>Win / loss is determined entirely by which team has more feedersWhat can they do to incentivize playing more heroes? The current system kinda sucks if you want to try out all of them.
I feel like if they wanted to make trophy collector more viable they should just make it have no stack limit/a higher stack limit (say like 32)
Is radiant regen good on victor?
>>544427609They honestly should just remove it. The concept of the item has two states: either be so broken you need to get it or you fall behind the team that did buy it or so shit buying it is a total waste of money
I have 12 Sinclair matches, and 8 losses3 of those are because some retard on my team leaves the match, and 3 are because someone on my team giga feeds and goes 0-10 (all of them Billy players)fuck, even two of my four victories are because of quitters
>>544427609I’d rather it have a lower limit and scale a bit better
>>544427649If you don't have it you're throwing
>>544427609more like the oppositeactually they should really just delete that item from the game
>>544427649If you buy it you're throwing
>>544427746I think he's just doomed to being a niche pick against certain comps that have valuable ults to stealjust playing him blind will probably never really work
>>544427649It's a good item in theory but it also gets countered quite hard by healbane which the entire enemy team SHOULD be buying if you're in the lobby. If you are at a rank where nobody does that however you can probably abuse it if you don't slow down your farm too much to do so
is it normal to have 500h and still be in rank iii?
>>544426236>>544427378>early 20th century>succubus>bar singerI know, >gachaslop, but I’m picturing Anjo Nala now.
>one win>three losses>win and then lose a matchyoshi don't do this to me
>>544427324I wish I was Phantom, just because it definitely has the best icon
>>544427895Victor’s everything gets countered by healbane so I don’t know what the takeaway here is.
Get these fucking emissaries out of my team bro.
>>544427950Rank 3 of what division?>>544428121The takeaway is that putting too many of your eggs into one basket is a bad idea, which you already seem to be aware of
>>544428121I played a game where 3 people had healbane and our infernus had toxic bullets and anytime he got close to dying his Paige would bail him out through 300 barriers and rescue beam or he would E-shift
>check my recent games in statlocker>most of my games are all solos vs a trio or 1-3 duos>on the few games i had a duo on my team they chainfed together and the other team also had groups anywaysi think yoshi hates me
>>544427950>>544427746
>>544427983>good coloration, presentation, textures>anime face straight up ruins it allI hate how often this happens
Has metro ever played any non-OP heroes?
This is one of the few games I have played where the games actually become more enjoyable as you rank higher
>>544427746Sinclair will be broken once we have a proper drafting system, but until then he'll always be meh. He's not supposed to be a hero you main, but someone you pick when the enemy comp has juicy ultimates.
>another lane against haze>another lane against the biggest sweatlord I’ve ever seenWhat is with haze players. Delete this hero.
>>544428478If you look at his tier list all his mains are bad. If you look at anyone elses they're broken S tiers
>>544428478bro, I'm not particularly high rated but I'd have to imagine everyone in oracle+ basically is just a massive metaslavelike you're just going to get punished too hard for playing off-meta at those ranks that it's just not an option. Metaslaving is basically self-defense.
>>544428606op hero
>>544428478he's a lowtiergod fr fr
>>544428606Haze is a free lane. Stand behind cover and clear waves. She has no wave clear at all just push her tower and shoot her.
>>544428606pub superstar character
>>544428721Das rite, nigga
>>544428663i one-trick spirit ivy in ass 4 and i do fine, i think metaslaving might start in eternus
>>544428643>If you look at his tier list all his mains are bad. If you look at anyone elses they're broken S tiersHe will literally only play what is meta currently. His "main" is Wraith but he only regularly plays her in patches where she is broken, he was playing Billy when he was broken, he was playing Victor when he was broken, he moved to Seven the entire time Wraith was shit and he was broken. Any time that's too difficult for him? Play on a different account to avoid deranking
>>544389275is that character a prostitute or you've modded your game?
>>544428030Forced 50/50, it's totally boring if you win every single game, it's better this way, don't you understand? You HAVE to be put into insanely unwinnable matches otherwise you won't have fun with our game and leave.
>>544428834in fairness isn't metro eternus
>>544428892Both
How to fix trophy collector:>All effects doubled>You lose two stacks upon death
>>544428606>think the haze is literally aimbotting his kryllic ass off>he's mentally ill so it doesnt even matter and we win
>>544428982He is Eternus 6 but he only got there because he played Wraith back when her ultimate was literally a better combo/blackhole (when maxed). When ranked matchmaking first dropped (solo only) he was ranked Ascendant
>Give Ult steal infinite range and a 30 second timer>Add spirit scaling to stolen ults if they don't scale by default>Nerf cancer bolt spam>Increase Ult CD to match stolen ultBoom, Sinclair is generally viable in any lobby, and less cancer to lane against
>>544429015How would this fix trophy collector
>>544428478I remember watching his wraith climb towards the end and pulling my hair out because he seemed to have no idea why he was winning. He would rat and end the game with tons of obj but talk like he was brooling with cards the whole time. If bro just built rat he would have done it twice as fast
>>5444288853/5 of my pool live, one dies that I don't even like (Vyper) but rip to my nigga Bebop I guess
>>544429170its funny how doorniggers ult has 20 meter range, yet when you steal it it has -1 range
>>544429170this made him worse in every way>spirit scaling to stolen ults if they don't scale by defaulthow would that even work
>>544429170>Steal Haze ulti>The ulti is based on weapon damage so it's uselessThe absolutely most cucked hero.
>>544429170>bolt nerflolretard post the ult should be kept for fucking 2 minutes if you steal one just like rubick and they should sell you aghanims for 2 ults stolen then you pick one and lose both
so how does this game work with so few players, you go against each other on a loop?
>>544429170Ult CD should match, or make him steal the last spell like rubick. Either way stop letting Hotpoo make characters. He's VERY clearly demonstrated that he only knows how to make pve characters that are "fun to play" but are not fun to play against. Both Sinclair and Vyper are overtuned kitwise and just a small tweak to numbers could tilt them into game ruining status.
>>544429503love watching clueless sink lairs steal haze ult and go in like they're about to wipe us all, then instantly explode.
>>544429503cats dont cry so the webm is sad because that little guy is sick, he probably has a tumor
>>544429596it has like 30k on average, how would that not work for a 12 player game
>>544428892are you familiar with the game deadlock?
>Venator when he has to lane with Mina/Drifter
>>544429762I just liked the gay guys in your op
>>544429370>>544429504The point isn't to make him stronger, the point is to move power away from spamming bolts and make his Ult useful when you don't have counter pick.
>>544429623ult cd matching would be absolute shit, but making it only a 40%-25% cdr instead of 50 would be fairer to fight against
>>544429097>AscendantHoly shit no way, I was hardstuck in Initiate and then got rebalanced into Ascendant.
>try gun Viscous>it's absolute, horrible garbageyeah I'm gonna stick to either throwing goo or punchaggedon Viscous
>>544429817This is also Drifter when he has to lane with Mina
>>544429623p sure i used calicos ult twice in 1 fight once because she gets that -40sec cd and i get to retain that for my own cd??? or some shit
>>544427473hero based MMR
>>544429990well yeah they nerfed that shit 37 times
>>544429983I'm talking about last year by the way. Back before the "bobbing up and down slightly" Wraith ult change tanked her winrate >>544429990Split Shot & Express Shot is bugged on Viscous again. Crazy damage, abuse while you can
>>544429956Why does he get Dynamo or Paige or Kelvin ults on extremely low CDs if Dynamo had a blackhole every 60 seconds you would see him every game, because it's broken and anti fun as hell.
>normies know this game by the gay porn of it
>>544429913you nerf the bolt he literally doesnt exist
>>544429817Wraith when she has to lane against Lash or Doorman
>>544430186yeah I didn't do that kind of build, maybe I should have donemystic shot+split shot+express+m2
>>544429867you have no idea how gay the ginger character isthere's no way valve's designers werent literally sitting around going "we need to make a twink"
>>544430194do they?
>Had the first game where I finally managed to carry and win. My head hurts. The enemy Victor still took 4 of us to kill him. Even with all the nerfs late game Victor is still horrifying. In hindsight I probably should have bought Inhibitor to kill him faster but oh well.
>>544430196Yes, and that's a problem. Which is why I'm proposing potential solutions in the form of shifting power to his Ult.
>>544430194>gay>normallol!!!!
>>544430187He has to get in range to grab them, then has a limited time to use them. It's trading consistency for quantity. If the enemy team isn't retarded, they'll say "oh he has dynamo ult back off".
>>544430645Normies are gay
>>544430187Maybe because it's significantly harder for him to capitalize with those ults unless he builts for itbuilds for it and he has to rely on the enemy team both having good ults and those characters being close to him
>>544430587how many times have you lost to sinclair because he bolted you 4 times in a row with assistant up
>>544429762no I cannot play it since it's closed alpha
>>544430483not everyone is a homosexual, he is a normal dude.
>>544431017He is a god actually and probably asexual
>>544431214normal looking dude*
>>544430982would you like an invite my good man
doorman literally limp wristedly slaps for his heavy melee
>>544430521Yeah, see >>544429867, >>544430483
Do doorman players not realise that ulting a low health high sustain character isn’t confirming the kill it’s just letting me heal?
>is present in literally 100% of gameshow do we fix this?
>>544431996>POV: you ulted a Pocket as Doorman 6.5 seconds ago
>>544431339Maybe in a few months. If Riot releases WASD for LoL I won't bother with another game. I'll wait it out.This game is very interesting otherwise, might try it eventually either way, if it grows a bit.
>>544432102Nerf fixationthat's it, that's haze
every time I buy leech it feels bad
>>544432102she already sucks, as long as shes a cool smoke assassin gun character russians will bow to her
>>544432370Seven got whacked for less
>>544432614As far as I can remember this is the only time Seven's not been at least a decent pick. Even when he wasn't broken or anything he was at least a solid choice regardless of the game
>>544429817This is venator and warden when they lane with Vindicta and get absolutely wrecked with facts and logic
playing a metro build is like playing a quin build in poe
>>544433008it sucks ass?
>>544433008Isn't quin good at poe?
>>544433113Yeah
>have spirit resilience>colossus activated>still die in 2 seconds under mina's ultwhat is even the point of these fucking items
>>544433151Watching Metro play Deadlock is like watching Quin play PoE )
>>544432845yeah this is the first time he's genuinely badi remember people used to joke that seven would get only mild nerfs then get buffed back into being the top 1 hero again every other patchnow he's just dogshit
>>544432215>LoLyikes
>>544427609Im just gonna say ityou shitlows cannot be trusted with this items existence, you are actively damaging your collective game experience and you dont even realize it, they need to remove it for your own safety
>>544433249escalating exposure + spirit rend are both very common Mina items
>enemy does mid boss with open (weakened) patron>kill it in 5 seconds as Vyperlol, hope it was worth it
>>544432215>LOLkiddoDon't bother with this game, I don't need another one of your ilk on my team
>>544433651ugggghhhh i didnt get 10 kills in lane this game is over ff afk now lane mate bot
>>544433505How is it the players fault that the item exists?Like it's just not a good fucking item, paying 3.2k to receive nothing is laughable, and then if you do happen to stack it insanely fast you don't even get that much.But to stack it you need to brool, at which point an item that actually does something in these fights would've been ten times better.It's just badly designed and in order to make it good the item would have to be broken as shit and if it's not it's gonna be unusable dogshit, there's no point.
nerf rejuvbuff towersadd glyphdelete kelvin
>>544433541Adding to this, is there a way to see enemy comms/pings in a replay? I want to see how badly they shit themselves
>>544433706I am certain low rank players only buy the item for the dopamine hit when they hear the sound on getting a kill or assist>>544433770You can see their ally chat and hear their pings (they don't show on map unfortunately)
>>544433505>>544427609 (me)Throphy collector is only a good item to confirm wins, not helping you winBecause if you have it and you have a shitton of stacks on it (say no stack limit) then it would make you have such a higher amount of stats and souls that you'd steamroll the game very hard
>>544433710trvthnvkeobjectives do like no damageand Kelvin has stayed OP since the first codes were sent out
>>544433704More like loses lane, screeches ''wtf no support'', then afk farms in the jungle (walkers completely ignored of course) till we lose.
>>544433881No stack limit would make the item broken as fuck because it'd stack infinitely and keep getting better and better, and you don't need to kill or actually assist on the kill, you'd just have to be close.Again there's just no way to balance the item and it's horribly designed.
>>544433897Kelvin has been nerfed so, so many times but he is still so fucking strong man. It's bonkers
>>544433864>You can see their ally chatI see, thanks. Didn't really see anything so I guess they either didn't type much or used mic.
>>544434129Nerfs are irrelevant when you do not address the main problem, yet this is the only form of "balancing" they're doing.He just refuses to rework abilities/kits, SURELY this +2 second cooldown band aid is gonna fix the problem and not just come back with a vengeance in 1 month as it finds a new way to abuse and break things again because of the ability I refuse to change.It's fine this time I'll nerf the item that caused it, how about that huh, surely this will finally fix everything.
>>544434129>heal + damage, wrecks lane, decent after it too>cancerous aoe debuff with zero falloff>movespeed buff>area denial/teamfight disruption ultYou'd think this is a new-ish hero given how overloaded his kit seems to be. Just to think his slow used to be much worse and the beam could disarm too.
>>544434745But enough about Calico.Jokes aside, how would (you) fix Kelvin and make him less of a Mussolini to lane against?
>>544434745They nerfed his beam into being complete fucking dogshit after lane without full investment but the rest of his kit is so conceptually broken it doesn't make a difference. Even a gun Kelvin can get value out of the beam because you can use it while reloading>>544434804And even if they somehow make his 3 basic abilities total dogshit no matter what, as long as his ultimate can literally make a thunder dome rape kit with ZERO fucking counterplay (seriously it's Mars arena on fucking crack) he's gonna be an amazing hero in any player's hands
Is Stamina Mastery excessive on Vyper?I like it just because it makes me nigh-on uncatchable and also ensures I can always slide.>get kinetic dashI forget to use it
>>544435061Anon if it wins you games it doesn't matter if it's maximum optimal or whatever.A build that works for you > a build that works for the best player in the world
>>544433710Stupid players genuinely can't handle the thought of being punished for diving towers and overextending like a retard for a kill. Entitled people can't stand the idea that their actions and greed have consequences. They HAVE to get the kill, no matter what, and all towers doing jack shit to stop them is reinforcing this mindset
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>>544435061kinetic dash I think sucks for vyper specifically, you'd spend more time dash jumping and staying in the air than actually sliding
>>544433651also forgot to mention that I'm trans, so stay away from deadlock
>>544435002It's not exclusively a kelvin thing it's an overall game design thing that permeates the entire game.Heroes need ups and downs, they need downsides, they need to be good and bad at different things, if like 30% of the heroes can do everything/nearly everything then there's no reason NOT to pick them and that's how we get these perpetually strong heroes that get nerfed every patch but doesn't matter because if you finally cut off one of their heads after 8+ patches of nerfs, they got 10 more.
>>544435187I'm just looking for some feedback/thoughts, none of my friends play this fucking gameIt does win me games, though.>>544435445I suppose. It's only once every 7 seconds though, but maybe it'd be too AIDS mid fight
>>544435061It is in my experienceVyper has 6 stamina already, the extra is overkill imoI'd rather have even warp stone over stam mastery but I kinda feel like Vyper isn't actually that mobile and I've made peace with thatLike sliding isn't actually that much faster than walking realistically, having a real movement ability would be better... its more for the ammo
>>544434129>*noclips towards you while slowing you by 80% while doing 200dps for 20 seconds straight *
>>544435552I feel like as good as Kinetic dash is for the buffs it gives>1 stam, 12% regen, 30% fire rate vs swift striker with only 20% and 1 sprint speedit's active time is incredibly short
>>544369263is the wheelman doorman after I have sex with his anus and he needs a wheelchair?
>>544436079>he doesn't know the Wheelman>>544435576I'll try Warp Stone a bit - might be better for the situations where they have too much CC for slithering away
>>544436248That looks like a game for grandparents.
>>544432102Rank up
>>544436452It's an incredibly shitty PS3 game starring Vin Diesel™ as The Wheelman™
>>544436565the ps3 was 20 years ago.
>>544360346>”their performance”kys
Yoooo made it into arcanist. 114 hours. I still can’t aim or move worth a damn.
>>544429990works in my shitlow gamesholy FUCK I hate infernus so much it's unreal
>>544435273>>544433897>league playersDota people get tower dove at level 2 get over yourself troons. Adjust to OUR game or fuck off back to yours. >>544433710Add glyph and delete Kelvin are good. No reason to nerf rejuv after glyph is added
>enemy walker under half health>make a rush towards it with rejuv>infernus hid away and ults me>every enemy stops their brooling to come over>keep shooting but it still doesn't go down>geist ult one of them to stay alive longer>die and the thing has one tick of health leftfuck it next time i'm just gonna FOR DJINN
inhouse doko
Please…a spirit dot/poison character for aimlets…
>>544437582Your infernus my dear sir?
>>544436892I hope most of you niggers follow his steps
>>544437632I can’t m1 for shit sir.
>>544435002Make the grenade heal at level 1 but it has to be alt fired to heal. Remove all damage from the beam and make it utility only. Alternatively remove the attack speed slow entirely or make it a max rank trait. Make it so shooting the bottom of his ice path reliably breaks it under his feet causing him to get stunned and fall.
>>544437804Thats hopeless, go play bloons or some shit
>>544424380i see i still haven't made a name for myself...yknow what maybe thats a good thing actually
>>544437804You only need to hit like 20 bullets in a 10 second window or whatever, then after that you need to hit like 5/8 bullets spaced out across whatever time it takes for your current DoT to melt their ass. Bonus points for having a stun and 2 non-bullet ways to extend the burn
>>544437582Learn to aim or learn Pocket, both are hard
>>544436079it was basically just pic relatedand yeah I did happen to be looking at the thread at the exact perfect time someone replied to a post I made yesterday
who do i play if my sole objective is to make their infernus/wraith player cry
>>544438297geist and out heal them
>>544438297Mohammed, and Kareem.
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>>544432102She will never stop being a noobstomper. Also she's got one of the coolest aesthetics in the game.
>>544438297Mina, but she takes a lot of mechanical skill.
>>544438638>>544438638>>544438638>>544438638>>544438638
>>544437383never played league>Adjust to OUR game because we ENJOY badly balanced mechanicswhat a retarded world view
>>544419875ftfy bro
>>544436248I actually don't buy warpstone I was just comparing it to extra stam lol back when I played vyper I was more into getting capacitor and diviners kevlar
>>544428885Can Vindicta even die? since she is a vengeful spirit/ghost.
>>544432876Vinny seems to like Venator, or at least respect him.
>>544437773I hope most of you racists and suicidals improve yourselves and stop being such loser dipshits
