Rupture Edition>Previous>>544512348>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSAug 26 ODST Warbond https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUC24yAP7SoAug 26 Into The Unjust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJi8VsvnkoESep 04 Dust Devils https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L-UQQIFQhwOct 23 Patch 4.1.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBW4NumlYHo>LATEST PATCHESOct 23 1.004.100 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/538868565209514366
>>544544231You literally cannot hate S*eden more than I
>>544562547>*Bitches about Swedes nerfing things*>*Is asked what was nerfed*>YoU'rE nOt ArGuInG iN gOoD fAiTh
>>544562492we have another shitbake to outbump in case anyone cares to help
>>544562794nah if you want a raped OP so bad you can keep itlet everyone see that this general is too low IQ to keep itself intact
>>544562492Based ™ Chad...
>>544562716>there weren't really any other nerfsnta but you're obviously not
>>544562794I don't.
>>544562243What is "challenging"? The people in these thread often say "I haven't failed a mission after lvl 10" or "I rarely die in my games" but that doesn't indicate challenge at all. Reminder that you can be having fun and sweating your ass off and also win. It is not necessary to lose in order to experience "challenge" or even have fun in the first place.
>>544562716Yes, asking "but who got killed" when talking about a mass shooting is a bad faith response.
>>544563001If you're not butthurt about the coyote taking one more bullet to light things on fire, and you're not upset about SMGs and secondaries getting worse drag, then what the flying fuck are you chimping out over?
>>544562492oh wellcan't force adulthood on manchildren I suppose
>>544563201Are you implying OP vandalism isn't manchild behavior?
>>544563097Because you don't know, and don't play the game. You only camp this general.
>Devs abruptly end their d10 mission>nGuard update blocking people from opening the gameVery curious, arrowhead.
>>544563320wow what a good faith reply
>>544562716What does good faith arguing mean in a general thread where nobody talks about game mechanics and merit is based solely on how many niggers a post contains
>>544563283Are you implying making a splitthread and phone posting it with picture spam because youre mad, isnt?
>>544563283the tranny scribble is the icing on this post
>>544563549Forcing correctness is never the wrong choice. Try to listen to the kraut in you. It would do you good.
game doesnt even launch, no nguard error just CTD now, good job swedes.
Watching all these bitchbabies whine about minor discrepancies in a part of the OP that nobody reads is hilarious.
IT WORKS
>>544563674Azure servers are coming back up, which is to say works on my machine
>>544563641>Forcing correctnessAccording to who? You? Why do you feel its your job to force "correctness" based on your own personal beliefs?
>>544563613the solution is to bludgeon every arrowhead employee with a large marine game fish until they realize this is a video game
D10 any, since game works againsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244430778220/76561198027910192
>>544563320I'm drowning in this good faith. Better send some out in thoughts and prayers!
>>544563832>Azure helps you build AI-powered solutionsHeres your server, bro.
>>544563729Genuinely what is the difference I cannot find it, is this a ruse?
>>544564045failed 2 join
>>5445640453/4>>544564317try again
>>544563895>According to who?All the regulars that are capable of being serious and inhibiting their childish impulses. In this particular instance that's me, yeah.
>>544564136Ai... For server code? Isn't server code basically solved? This is like using AI to design novel spoons.
>>544564183The part that people are complaining about is the game description. Apparently there's a clique of Discord users who insist on using a pre-approved version of the OP, and the one that this thread was posted with conflicts with that.
>>544564045fvll
>>544564424>All the regulars that are capable of being serious and inhibiting their childish impulsesThe irony of you saying this while you cant control your impulses to freak out whenever you see ™
>>544564541Nothing of the sort. All I'm asking for is for the OP to be free of plebeian attempts at humor. You can be a disruptive piece of shit in 749+ posts below it. That should be enough. But apparently it's not.
BUFF ASSAULT RIFLES (FOR REAL)BUFF SMGS (FOR REAL)BUFF SHOTGUNSBUFF SOLO SILO (FOR REAL)BUFF FLAMERS AND FIRE DAMAGEBUFF RANDOM SHIT TO MAKE TRANNIES UPSETFIX DILIGENCE/AMR SCOPE BUGADD SPACE MISSIONSADD SKYBRIDGES AND TOWERS TO MEGACITIESADD FULL ILLUMINATE ROSTER AND MORE UNITSADD GAS GIANT PLANETSADD APCADD TANKADD BIKEADD ARMOR PAINTADD MISSING STRATAGEMSADD STRATAGEM CUSTOMIZATIONADD STRATAGEM LOADOUTSADD 12 PLAYER MISSIONSREWORK ARMOR PEN SYSTEMDELETE DURABLE DAMAGEDELETE GAMEGUARD RIGHT NOWDELETE DUPLICATE ASSETSDELETE JOELDELETE ALEXUSDELETE SCAMSDELETE INDIADELETE GLAZERSDELETE GOONERSDELETE TRANNIESCUT DOWN THE GAME SIZE
>he won
>>544564424>the regulars™
>>544563549This.Splitting the thread is way worse then a minor joke in the OP.And desperatly self bumping it is just pathetic.
First bake is THE bake. That's it. Shrimple.
>>544564850
They’re back, baby. (Predators are way fucking harder btw).
>>544564740This sounds like cope. Being serious is always a matter of ability, never of choice. You lack that ability. All there is to it.
>>544565237>sculpts a little snow dog, then the snow dog transforms into a truth enforcer guy?idgi
>>544565237>Rage posting images on a split thread because someone put ™ in an OP is serious business
>>544565439Yeah, this always confuses me aswell.Someone media literate explain it to me.
lob dok
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244431382289/76561198088192093D10 Bots.
>>544565509Small acts of vandalism are still vandalism and to be met with contempt. You'll agree once you see where the slippery slope leads.
>>544565789Youre the only one here crying about it, lil bro.
>/hdg/ has finally reached the discord niggers fucking with the thread stage of a /vg/ general
>>544565789Especially since is causing so much shitfighting. If I was meming and it didn’t catch on and pissed people off id just pretend it never happened and never post it again, maybe try something else. If not you’re just an obnoxious spammer.
>>544565864doesn't mean I'm not right.
>>5445656673/4
>>544564850but anon deleting the trannies would include you...
>>544565925bros I miss being able to discuss visual novels in /vn/...
>>544565959Doesnt mean that youre right. Your entire argument is based off your narcissism.
>>544565789>streisand effect™
>trivializes the entire faction
>>544565943Could just leave out the ™s, preventing any and all shitflinging to ever take place, but your manchild ego would perceive that as a surrender wouldn't it
>>544566247I wonder when he will realize theyre doing it because they know it pisses him off because of some weird ego issue.
atleast the pisscord actually plays the game
>>544565667FULL
>>544566412That you have the gall to call ego issues on anyone when you're the ones incapable of not fucking with the OP.
>>544566404>Could just leave out the ™s, preventing any and all shitflinging to ever take place>but your manchild egoYou said this in the same sentence without any hint of self-awareness.
>>544566432Kill yourself
>>544566412You don't get it.This guy has been insanely stubborn on every wrong opinion he ever posted here and being unable to accept he might be wrong going back over a year.At some point you can just learn to pick out his post like some sixth sense.
>>544564831You sound like a faaaaag
>>544566708Okay, then be faster with the OP or stop your bitching.Time to man up and get serious.
>>544558625total reddit user death
Venus or Night?
>>544567068Why not Helldivers?
>>544566765There's nothing egotistical about attempting to maintain the general for the good of everyone that enjoys it. A three minute visit to the archive will show you that the OP was in a dogshit state until a few years ago. I fixed it. Now it's ruined again. I have every right to be upset. Bunch of ill-behaved losers.
>>544567135Consider: >>544566935
>>544567068I have to use the gun and get a feel for its personality first.
>>544567135If your feelings can be this easily hurt just by the addition of a few characters to the OP, then contemplate going out and touching some grass.
>>544567135>yearsweeks>>544566935>>544567173Stop trying to make cope excuses for your inability to not be a dipshit.
>>544565509>>544566247Ah, that’s the difference. Pretty gay ngl. Why not just refrain from adding the tm? Is it a Jewish thing?
>>544567423If it’s causing this much asshurt it’s not worth it. Just stop posting so we can talk about Helldivers instead of your trooncord.
>>544567448Consider: >>544566935
>>544567539Why not refrain from having a melty over it? Is it a brownoid thing?
>>544567539>Is it a Jewish thing?It's a thing of being brown, bald, body height below 180cm, growing up without a male parentany or all of these really
>>544567539>streisand effect™™
>>544565925Gacha general tier without actually being a gacha is impressive.
>>544567758>I shouldn't have to stop being a manchild, (You) should just have to deal with me and my hilarious antics :^)
>>544567758Called it.
>>544567068How bad is this warbond going to be?
>>544567958anon have you seen some of the armor+voice mods these jokers are running? It essentially is gacha to them.
>>544567958It's not, most shitposting is done by few discords over several generals.
>>544567131Arguably the best skin for every weapon in the game
>>544568197It's good so far, guns feel great and C4 pack is crazy goodhttps://youtu.be/zTTAN9nbTh4
>>544568339What the fuck are you talking about it’s not out yet.
>>544568007You having a melty over it is why people keep vandalizing it though.Because they know it will get a rise out of you.How new are you to 4chan that you never learned not to feed the trolls?
>>544567068Helldiver colors for all.
>>544533596all the drawbacks of Diligence and counter-sniper without the upsides of either
>>544568007>"You are a manchild" he says as he's on day 3 of his mega melty about "improper OP etiquette" for a swedish jank game on an anonymous chinese basket weaving forumYou cannot be a real person. This is some kind of psyop by the shitcorders, right?
>>544568339Can you shoot the C4 and blow it up?
>>544568521What drawbacks and upsides is it missing though?
>>544568521>Top 3 weapon is garbage because the top 2 are better
>>544568503You're vandalizing it because you're incapable of refraining from doing so, no other reason.>>544568558If I see a grown ass faggot being incapable of controlling his impulses I'm gonna call him what he is until that fateful day he decides to no longer burden this world. Again, forcing correctness is nothing but beneficial and ethical. No matter where, how, or for what reason you do it.
>Helldivers 2 finally hardlocked his PC and now im afraid of having him play with me because I dont want his pc to get sweden'dThank you, arrowhead
>>544568705Yes, it has 1 hp
game still ded?
>>5445689073rd place would be Deadeye doe
>>544569158Yes
you don't know hell until the average bump limit thread is made up of 75% ritual posts or one word replies.
>>544568949Only one person is vandalizing it, the rest don't care to much and just play it up because they will get a rise out of you.If you could just control yourself and turn the other cheeck like an adult it would blow over.But you can't, which is why you keep replying, giving me (you)s.
>knocked myself over by being too close to the solo silo again.:(
>>544568878>R-63long magazinestellar ergonomics rating>Counter-snipermedium penetration>bothfull attachments (minus the useless 10x on Dili) for sweet recoil minmaxing
>>544569246No
>>544569246Deadeye is one, Amendment is two and Dili is three.
>>544568521Those two guns have high recoil, amendment has basically none
>>544568949You're not the arbiter of what a "correct" OP is. It can be anything the general decides it is and the answer to that question seems clear, judging by the fact that you got clowned both here and on your shitcord. Eat a dick and piss off, russian rape baby.
>>544569158yesdoomgods on top
>>544569719>manchild cope>y-you d-dastardly k-krautLe yawn. Kill yourself.
>>544570101Struck a nerve?
>>544570101>no argumentThanks for consneeding.
>>544570389Nah. As usual your aim leaves a great deal to be desired.
hive world lobby doko? i NEED to tunneldive and kill worms with the bros
uh ouh nordgun melty
game's back up btw
>>544570548thanks slowpoke
>>544569452It really is an awful stratagem. Is there any niche use-case the solo silo fills?
>>5445656673/4 again
>>544568339>ground-based AT seekerneato, new permanent nade pick for me, goodbye seeker my beloved
Why do drama autists always fight over the OP? this isn't the first general where i've seen this shit
>>544568339>>544570765it would be nice if there was like a 2 or 3 second delay before the mine goes off so you avoid the situations shown where a single scavenger eats the entire thing before anything else gets within range
>>544570773normal people here to discuss shit want to be left alone and antagonistic troons have to fuck everything up to be annoying
>>544565667Full... again...
>>544570707Popping jammers and detectorswhich is what I would say if the SerbSwine™ hadn't ruined it by reducing its demo force to 40.>>544570773Starts happening whenever the in-group clique (read: manbabies, "the list") has sufficiently alienated itself from the less insane regulars. Expect far more aggravating and ever escalating acts of sabotage in the near future. Maybe they'll replace the modding and hosting links with robutt as soon as next bake.
>>544570707>long range>expendable>1 hits dogs>being cool as fuck
What if we got a talon but it's a rifle?
So uhhh... How often do hellbombs explode as soon as you finish their inputs?
>>544571356RR is long-range and oneshots fagstriders without being completely pointless otherwise thougheverbeit. You're silly if you believe silo won't fall off once it no longer has new thing status.
If I was a bug farmer I'd fuck the bile pussy. Maybe that's how the terminid outbreaks start
>>544571181honestly bless the serbnigger, frfr - maybe increase it's demo on lesser difficulties for the boys that want the experience but if you could wipe out something that can only spawn at most 6 fucking times on a map with a 2 minute cooldown strategem I'd probably quit playing this gamethat says it still needs a buff of some kind
>>544571181The next OP should just be "Helldivers 2™" because i'm pretty sure no one reads the OP.Which is apperant by how often newfags ask how to host/join lobbies.
>>544567068I use Diver colors or whatever is closest to it, except energy weapons, which are all laboratory white
>>544571625We used to be able to pop any jammer with a fabricator attached to it. And bots were a league less trivial back then regardless. 50 demo force silo would be fine. I wouldn't mind paying for that utility with a much longer cooldown though. I'd rather use a beneficial stratagem 2-3 times per mission than a semi-pointless one 12 times.
>>544571549Dustdevils honeymoon is over.Which is why speargun is becoming a stalwart tier cryptid stratagem.
>>544571965Good, sick of others who can't use it taking it when I'm already running it.
>>544571783Or we could just have a clean proper OP without quirky jokes and ignore the resulting manchild revolt.>no one readsNo excuse.
>drop in>support weapon gets stuck on a ledge>get instakilled by a stalker from behind>quit because I forgot to change my equipment from botdiving>join a different game>infinite loading screen>close gameI think I managed to stomach maybe half an hour of this game the past month
>>544571926And fabs needed vent shot or stratagems (strafing did need vent shots) to be destroyed too.
love me speargunsimple as
>>544570707Will be really nice for the stealth missions.
>>544572195Don't quote me on it but I'm pretty sure launch Commando coincided with fab poppable jammers. So yeah they were destructible from any angle+distance.
>>544572129Clean... like "Helldivers 2".Frankly, if you're cleaning it up, remove the helldive.live link aswell.
>>544570707rocket go pschooooo and it makes my brain feel good
>>544572420What’s that?
Redpill me on the speargun. I only find it useful on bots as a sidegrade railgun.
>Helldivers 2 causes so much CPU strain and heat that its basically a playable stress test thus leading to rapidly deteriorating hardware and causing issues such as hard locks
>>544567068i genuinely think they picked a good color scheme so i rock it >>544571926Do you genuinely think my opinion on this isn't Veridical (heh) as well? Yes, that sucked too for the same reason, but at least that one was only a 50% spawn as it was one of the 2 pre-sets for that side obj.>And bots were a league less trivial back then regardless.Do you too miss gunship deathspirals?I dunno, I just started avoiing the semi-useless ones for that reason alone.
>add really cool boss enemy, hands down the best enemy added to date>remove it because??????????????Where the fuck are the fucking hive lords
>>544572378Launch spear you mean?Commando came way later.Good luck even shooting launch spear.
>>544572420So that's what this whole episode of cringe is about? The helldive.live link? Bro that's so impossibly petty I'm genuinely struggling to find engloid words for it.
>>544571537When they get damaged after being armed
>>544572516Long range gas grenade.Can pop bug holes, fabricators, and clams.Only weapon that can stop fleshmobs from charging. Can stun basically everything including factory striders.
>>544572629>that's pettty>from the guy having a 3 thread melty over ™
>spawn in>don't even have time to call in a support weapon>instant 10 stalkers, 10 alpha commanders, 30 alpha warriors and the fucking dragonroach fucking me in the assIf it wasn't for the abundance of super credits, they could shove that stupid planet up their ass and their nigger predator strain with it.Also is it me or they fucked up the difficulty xp bonus AGAIN!
Who else was around when the guy having a melt made a splitthread because there was a robutt thread and the janny decided the robutt is less obnoxious than the splitfag?
>fight these new flying bugs for the first time>die to invisible goop that doesn't even render on my screen, makes no noise and has absolutely no feedback when damaging you besides your guy screaming a millisecond before you die1 dive in and I already had to uninstall again
>>544573235pussy
>>544573235Bro, just constantly pre-stim whenever the roach starts vomiting to prevent it from maybe one shoting you when it feels like it or when it decides to just tickle you
>>544572863Sorry, I can't respect an aversion to stats and info. helldive.live isn't gospel but it is useful and deserves to be in the OP. You're currently not dissuading me from the manchild accusations.
>>544573431>aversion to stats and infoOh, youre the Troon Trek spammer.This explains a lot.
>>544573547There's nothing wrong with what you refer to as "spreadsheet gaming", child.
>>544573431Helldive.live has such a small sample size that its data is worthless.
>>544573680Wrong.
just curious,anons who have stutter and freezes on bot front;how much RAM do you have? consolefags need not reply
>>544573819Wronger.
>>544564045gg
>Helldivers subreddit: Actual useful info, people actually talk about the game, funny little clips of people enjoying the game>Helldivers 4chan thread: People not even talking about the game, some retard sperging about the OP, people that dont know what the fuck theyre talking about spreading misinfoAh, so this is what people meant by "keeping 4chan pure"
>>544564045ggs fellow moonmen
>>544570707Instantly deleting a factory strider when you're too manly to consider using a cuck chair.
>>544574074aw i fat fingered a key and i don't have the image, ggs
>>544568339Very Nice
>>544574108this is how all generals work. you want useful info? >>544562492>>INFORMATION RESOURCES>https://helldivers.wiki.gg/>https://helldiverscompanion.com/>https://democracy-hub.net>https://helldive.livethere you go retard. at least learn to fucking read.
>>544574108>caring about thread fillerThe tm is gay. Reddit is entirely that gay.
>>544574108pissing on OP for being a faggot is a time-honored tradition, and very justified in this case, doesn't constitute sperging
>>544574108go back then
>>544574656>pissing on OP for being a faggot is a time-honored tradition,Except thats not whats happening. Theyre pissing on the guy whos mad about the "TM" in the OP.
>>544572516It's an extra source of gas grenades. It's only useful for rundivers who have no intent of fighting the enemy and instead just toss out CC gas to shake their tail while they run the fuck away, or supportniggers who think that their little coof cloud is helping when they could be killing things outright.It's C or C- tier if you actually want to fight and kill the enemy.
>>544574108Why don't you go to fucking reddit then
>>544573235>too fucking stupid to change armor Besides that, how do you retards have this problem? I’ve never been hit by its fire vomit unless I was stood still shooting at it.
Patriot's minigun in caves is so kino
>>544574757Nah. "They" (You) are coping and pretending these gay little moves of OP vandalism (which have been going on for months btw) are some clever ploy to make a guy mad when they're really just manchild (and as anon rightly pointed out, redditor) antics.
>>544574978Consider: >>544566935
>stealth warbond>everyone knows about it before it's even announcedpar for the course
>>544575042Rejected. Your behavior is inexcusable full stop
>>544572516Think railgun but destroys fabs. Not having to charge is nicer than you think. Best use is brapping on patrols. You face shot a hulk dead then the rest get confused.
>>544575114>People datamined the game and ruined the surprise>Again.
>>544575114The surprise is a magdump to the front and a pissjug filled with C4 lobbed after it
>>544574978
>>544575183Consider: >>544566935
>>544568339>light pen marksman rifleLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
robby dokopls
>>544574978Thankfully you are not a manchild, nope, no way. Spazzing out about him time and time again is a big boy behaviour
>>544575220Arrowhead's fault for being inept. Any other studio putting future content in the live version only to have it datamined would rightly blame themselves and learn to tolerate the situation. But of course retarded sw*doids don't. You cannot seriously condemn people for examining files that are located on their own PCs, their property. Think of the implications.
>>544575482It's going to be better than R63 after (if) they fix 10x scopes
>>544575482Theoretically you should only be hitting bot weak spots with it.
>>544571559Good post
>>544575758How so? R-63 has superior projectile physics. And even if the 10x worked right, it would still not be all that much more beneficial than a 4x.
We haven't had new ship upgrades in like over a year. Just wanted to remind you all of that.
>>544575607
>>544575993It would be beneficial at longer ranges for sure. And I don't think headshotting devs with slower bullets will be an issue, they are slow and predictable.
>>544575732>Blaming arrowhead for standard industry practice
>>544576365Zero version control is standard industry practice now? Barraging your own community with DMCA strikes isn't normal either unless you're Nintendo.
>>544576269What could they even add now?
>>544576496>He has no idea what I'm actually referring toNot surprising. Considering everyone on 4chan is stupid as fuck more often than not but are always the loudest to voice their opinion.
>>544576365Most companies have different builds usually gated off, steam even allows that function if they want streamlined testing.
>>544576530In an ideal and impossible world where the ikea niggers are competent and willing to grow the game in meaningful ways? Stratagem customization of course.In the grim timeline we actually ended up in? Probably nothing that wouldn't frustrate and disappoint us.
>>544576365>standard industry practice
>>544576530No idea, but tier 6 upgrades have been in the files for longer than they haven't been in the files. I wish to buy them.
>>544569440trvke
>>544576691Refer to: >>544576678
>>544569440this
>>544576754>>544576845
>>544575220The real surprise was that they're having a warbond at all
>>544568907>top three weapon is still trash because it placed top three in the fucking special Olympics
d10 oshaune and then rupture steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244438822193/76561198066017633
>>544576365Most of the industry has figured out how datamining goes by this point and takes steps to prevent it.
>>544576678Dumb retard, it doesn't matter what you're referring to. If Arrowhead get so mad at leaks they should just straighten their fucking act and start running a professional studio. You do not get to blame anyone else for your surprise having been ruined.
>>544577091full
>>544568521>higher damage than R63>better ammo economy than DCS>burst fire, vastly higher ROF and DPS than either gun>bayonetRetard.
>>544577393>Dumb retard, it doesn't matter what you're referring toGenuine low IQ take
>arrowhead dev comes into the thread and gets BTFOdget back to work, sven
>>544578017You dont even know what the fuck is even being talked about.Sit your ass back down.
>>544577537>higher damage than R63irrelevant>better ammo economy than DCSirrelevant, ammo is too abundant>burst firecmon anon you're grasping at straws here that firemode might as well not exist since you can burst way faster in single fire mode>vastly higher ROFfair but more QoL than an actual substantial advantage for a semi auto gun>and DPSdoubtful>bayonetpointless
>>544578061swigger melty
>>544577537>none of the above in way that matters functionally One thing it does now is head shot warriors where the dil can’t any more. Other than that it has no meaningful leg up on anything.
>>544578068>irrelevantRelevant.>irrelevant, ammo is too abundantDepends on the faction.>cmon anon you're grasping at straws here No.>that firemode might as well not exist No.>you can burst way faster in single fire modeNo.>fair but more QoL than an actual substantial advantage for a semi auto gunNot a semi auto gun. It has burst fire.>doubtfulCheck the wiki.>pointlessVery useful.
>>544575732>"erm actually, if you didnt want me to break into your house you shouldve put bars on your windows"
mine kino soon bros
>>544578439This analogy would be like not putting bars on your window in an area where every house without bars has been broken into.
>>544578732>Doubling down on proving my point that hes a low trust society individual
>oh hey, I'm going to call my backpack and my support weapon on this place surrounded by caves>out of every single place that could've been chosen by those incompetent nigger devs, it has to be on top of the unreachable fuel silos>not only that, but the perfect spot so the guns and backpacks stay stuck on top of it even if you blow up the hellpodTotal sweden death
Does anyone know if the de-escalator can zap friendly helldivers? I'm too much of a pussy to "accidentally" test it on a pubbie.
>>544578648>already in the game as 4 different stratagems
>>544578068>>higher damage than R63>irrelevantregular diligence can't one-shot warrior heads anymore, amendment still can
>>544568339>le integrated suppressor and LE SUBSONIC AMMUNITION OMG FOR LE MAXIMUM STEALTHY NIGGA GAMEPLAY>Gets fucking spotted instantly thru walls anyways
>>544578439Your analogy is fucked. What's actually happening here is that Arrowhead are putting their stuff in your house and waiving all rights to not have you rub your sweaty balls all over it. They put those files on my PC, therefore I get to examine them.>b-but ToSToS aren't contracts, they're mere pleas that beg the end user to refrain from certain acts. It's my choice whether I adhere to them. Do you really think any judge anywhere would rule in favor of Arrowhead if they tried to enforce those terms? Absolute kekkles you do not know how the world works.
>>544578826Vidya is inherently like that, the entire industry knows this and plans for it.
https://www.youtube.com/live/dbOI7N5BgQE?si=G6j0H4lYDSHboBzC&t=4280Heres a timestamp of the devs explaining the coyote nerf
>>544578956I never said anything about ToS. Youre arguing against something I never said.>therefore I get to examine them.Thank you for trippling down on being a low trust society individual. The fact you completely miss my point is actually hilarious.
>>544578238>>none of the above in way that matters functionally It does. You don't know the game.>One thing it does now is head shot warriors where the dil can’t any more. R63 can't one shot headshot stalkers either. And the burst fire makes it almost certain at least one bullet will hit the head while it charges you. >Other than that it has no meaningful leg up on anything.It simply kills things faster than the other 2 rifles if you need more than 1 bullet. And bayonet is useful. Also more ammo is always good.
What's it like playing with /hdg/ anons?
>>544578926Random weapons getting nerfed in the last patch for absolutely no reason was extremely funny.
>>544579204anon, Arrowhead actively disrespect and insult me by failing to establish quality control on their game. Why should I "trust" people who failed as professionals?
>>544579439>Arrowhead actively disrespect and insult me by failing to establish quality control on their game
>>544579274>It does. You don't know the game.>brings up shooting stalkers (enemies you can’t see effectively at range)>brings up more ammo, something you’ll take another gun with more ammo, better ammo economy, and better ttk forOk
>>544563381so did something actually happen?
>>544579439Weve went from>"ITS MY HECKIN RIGHT!"to>"MUH EGOOOOOOOO!"Low.Trust.Society.Individual.Stop trying to be a moralfag about this and admit the real reason.
>>544579728People couldnt open Helldivers 2 for some time because their malware depends on that service.
>>544579580Failing to maintain quality control is careless, unprofessional, and disrespectful of me and my time. I, alongside everyone else playing this game, deserve immediate transparency and a proactive approach to resolution rather than coverup attempts, cope, and empty promises from dinnerman. Quality control is not optional. Professionalism is not optional. These are things that HAVE TO be maintained and sacrificed for.
>>544579965>Failing to maintain quality control is careless, unprofessional, and disrespectful of me and my time.If you cared this much about those things you wouldve stopped playing long ago. Youre being a moral fag about being a low trust individual.
>>544579026I think everyone can agree the coyote was overtuned, but what's obnoxious is how they went out of their way to tell everyone "nooo we're totally not nerfing the coyote guys ;)" and then nerfed it in a passive aggressive, roundabout way.
>>544579026>devs play on diff 10wtf
>>544580246And in a way that also fucked other weapons.
>>544580084Has nothing to do with caring or not caring. It's the most basic, barest minimum expectation towards the faggot swedes. And they fail even that.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244440977692/d10 any bugs
>>544568339>Two (2) silenced weapons that don't even work>A gas based sidearm mite b cool but probably not>Another useless drop pod deployment booster>Gimmicky stealth grenade that is also probably copy pasted bugged code from regular mines>A smoke grenade lmaoLooks like another hard skip.
>>544579439
>>544580305>Hes still trying to moralfag itJust tell us the real reason, god damn.
Is the cookout still good or did the devs go full retard again with the latest patch?
>be host>get mauled by bugs the moment they're within range>1-2 hits and I'm gone>spectate friend>casually strollin' through a sea of claws swiping at him>his dude is screaming his lungs out>health stays at 100%Breaks my immersion something fierce. It's to a point where I'm downright bitter watching that bullshit unfold.Why does he get to be invincible while I fall over to a stiff breeze?I'm certain it's tied to the same bullshit that was revealed through burrowing-warriors and their stim-tax. Only for the host.The host is always playing on a difficulty above the clients for whatever reason.I'm sick of it.
>>544579689>>brings up shooting stalkers (enemies you can’t see effectively at range)They are most dangerous at close distance where you do see them and that's also where burst fire comes in handy. But by 'stalkers' I ment both normal and predator ones. >gun with more ammo, better ammo economy, and better ttk Amendment is fairly high tier as far as these things go. Does lib/libcarbine have good ammo economy? Amendment has about the same total damage as they do with extended mags. Higher DPS than even libcarb. It's simply a very strong CQC gun while also being a very good at long range.
>>544580307full
>>544580319even easier skip if you cant quick detonate c4's like in HD1>>544580281but they cut the stream short mid-run because they were getting bodied :(
>>544579282join a lobby and find out; otherwise much more chill than the thread itself would have you believe
>>544580423>usYou're alone, glazer. But I'll gladly say it again: The game's quality is insufficient. Swedes should feel obligated to enhance it. They obviously do not. Therefore they're shameless unprofessional faggots and deserve the polar opposite of respect.
>>544579026I mean sure yeah, the weapon is still good, the nerf wasn't that big of a deal.The big problem that people are actually made about is the fact that they lied.Don't fucking lie and have some respect for your consumers' intelligence. It's that easy.
>>544580815>Hes>Still>Moral>FaggingJust be honest. Just say you have severe brainrot and you have zero patience.Or that you feel that by doing this you feel as though youre getting some "payback" to arrowhead because you think they personally slighted you specifically in some way.
>>54457928260/40 silent bobs to people who yap a lotskill level is all over the place but generally still higher than the pubbieeveryone's 150 by now so you shouldn't expect epic gamers from level alone
>>544578881Yep, it's an arc weapon like any other. Obv not as bad as the tesla tower or K9 since you control where you shoot but it is absolutely dangerous.
>>544580457Fire got nerfed but it’s still goated
>enemies are heavily nerfed>expecting overturned weapons to not get nerfed aswellwhat's that saying about the cake again?
I was fine with de-escalator having no speed loader back when it obliterated entire bot patrols with 3 shells but it should get one now I think
deescalator should just get an ammo type being CS gascut the normal gas dps in half and repaint it whiteshrimple as
>>544581651>heavily nerfed (undocumented change: doubled their HP)Fixed that for you, no need to thank me
>>544580940whyareyouredditspacing
These threads are so drab now....
>>544581905becausethisisredditretard
>>544580554>strong cqc gunSo are shotguns, which are better than it there, and are still bad.>very good at long rangeIf worse than most other options is very good, then yeah, sure.
>die>think "what are my fellow helldivers doing">switch to teammate>he shoots his airburst into the wall in front of himself and dies
>>544582148Nothing you said is true.I don't think even you believe what you are saying.
>>544582375based
>>544582109>reddit nigger>nothing but low quality postsYou have to go back
>>544582148>>very good at long range>If worse than most other optionswhy do you think the amendment is worse at long range than the regular diligence or DCS?
>>544581651>enemies are heavily nerfed>most in fact got buffed or changed in a way they are statistically the same
>>544582375i get performance anxiety when my teammates are spectating me ok
>>544582443 meWell besides that shotguns are better at short range, no shit they are shotguns they are supposed to be the absolutely best there.
>>544582470>reddit nigger go backyou are playing a game made and cattered to reddit and owned by a pajeet and SNOYcant get worse than that
>>544582443>the final concession of the low iq Consider it accepted.
>>544565574he comes out of the snow
>>544581905nta but its because it looks like this before posting.
>>544582732Do you just like wasting peoples' time?
>join lobby>get dropped in the middle of 3 morbillion bugs>die instantlythis planet is so fucking terrible lol
Did you guys get your oath of enlistment yet?
>>544582109go back
>>544583201nice star wars crawl reticle dork
>>544582997>effeminate circle back, unbroken chain of projection postingAudibly dilating
>>544583183>UWAAAHHH GO BACK PWEASEEE
>>544582148>>544582732>diligence: 850m/s velocity30% drag0.5 spread1 swaymaximum 4x scope65 ergonomics with 4x26 vertical 17 horizontal recoil>amendment: 850m/s velocity30% drag0.1 spread1 sway4x scope with option for 10x scope50 ergonomics with 4x28 vertical 17 horizonal recoilif you think the diligence is good for long range shooting but the amendment is not then the only thing that can be said is you are irreparably biased against the amendment for some completely unknowable schizo reason
>>544583276hehehehe gave me a good chuckle
>>544583429>you are irreparably biased against the amendment for some completely unknowable schizo reasonIt's some discord nigger who likes pretending to be retarded because he believes you are epically pwned if you reply to him.
>>544583201>niggerexia
>>544579439BASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDTRVTHNVKE
>>544583201christ I was going to ask why you're not getting any vertical recoil when shooting but then I realized you actually weren't shooting and it was camera shake from some one else shootinghow the fuck can you stand having camera shake on?
>>544583882>>544580330>>544579439Embarrassing samefag still seething
>>544584013Embarassing nigger dilating, keklmao
>>544584068>he didnt deny the samefag accusation
>>544583201That reticle is egregious. That's some sort of mod? Why would you do that to yourself?
There a new update right ?
Our way of Sneed,Galaxy Feed,Paved with the Chucks of those who died
>>544584220Take your meds lil bro, all sane individuals agree that AH is filled with retarded swiggers and the game being shit. Even if I were samefagging (which I'm not and I'm literally just joining in the discussion to kneel to that anon for being based), I'd be right.So what's your fucking point? You are a pathetic troon bootlicker. That anon? He's god amongst men. You? Complete basedjak NPC.Do you need more buzzwords or can you fuck off and stop harrassing someone cheering on the better anon?
>>544583868I'm not black tho>>544583997I had it off for a while but I turned it back on cause the game felt kinda flat without it, I wish there was a middle ground between light shake and no shake>>544584404idk, I though it was interesting and I've been hitting my shots with it so I haven't bothered to turn it off
If you have been alive for 25 or more years, why DON'T you hate videogame developers? Especially Swedish ones
Give me mods, the good ones
>>544584662>He spent 6 mins writing out a wall of seethe just for me to not read itRethink your life
I don't think about sweden at all
>>544584762https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/4085
>>544584730>sissytroon with humiliation fetish>bot from trollfarm>pajeet paid 0,000000012$ per hourYour trinity.>>544584825Seething&dilating.
>>544584930NTA But you're actually seething right now
>>544584220>greentext doesnt make you fit in faggotconfrimed gay niggertroon in active axewound dilation
>>544585076NTA, but he's clearly not and just having fun.
>>544584930>>544585096>one minute apartThis dudes on the verge of a heart attack
is being obsessed with some fags an ocean away from you over a video game a form of parasociality
>>544585247>no more arguments beside "you are samefagging"I'm not even that anon, but I'll accept your concession.
>>544585443>See person eating shit>Call him a shit eater>"Heh, no argument other than that, huh?"
>>544585670False equivalence.Also you are the one eating shit and projecting. I'll accept this concession as well btw.
>>544565925>the nerf trannies shitposting in this general from discord are realDaily reminder to call these niggers out
>>544585797If it Sounds like a duck,And walks like a duck....
>played with pubbie>he kept thanking me for reviving him>he gets off and says he’ll brb>invites me>fuck it, join>he friend requests meNEVER AGAIN. NEVER PLAYING MORE THAN ONE GAME WITH SOMEONE EVER AGAIN. SALUTE EMOTE. RETURN TO SHIP ALONE. GOD DAMN IT.
>>544585961There's no point in accepting the perspective of someone that is clearly delusional.Observation dismissed.Concession accepted.
>>544585247you're alone here you little kike, and no one is going to help you defend lazy swiggers.>>544585260no but calling swedes gay alongside other people an ocean away is better than being social>>544585443>see a fag being a kike>call him a kikeshrimple as
>multi-replyingBro, check your blood pressure
>>544585670You eat shit from Arrowhead though?
>btfo'd by multiple people >"y-your blood p-pressure..."kek
>>544586268>no u
>>544585961but this nigger talks like a kike and seethes like a glazing troon, he is therefore a retarded fag
>>544586316Yes, you.
Missions that take place entirely in a cave are insanely boring ngl
Why did this guy get so mad over being called a samefag if it wasnt true?
NOOOOO NOOOOOSAAAAR YOU HAVE TO REDEEM THE ARROWHEADSAAAAR YOUR BLOODY BLOODSTREAMSAAAAR
they call me 0070 oc0 lobbies7 thousand posts about sweden
>>544586515Nta (or am I?) but that's kind of dumb, it's normal to get annoyed at being accused of something you didn't do
>>544586268he must be part jeet like shamscaptcha confrimes heS GAYR than shams too
>>544586515Imagine being this retarded on purpose
at least the dev on the right for the stream had balls
>>544586839>had ballsOh you mean the same one that outright lied to everyone about the weapon nerfs? A lot of balls yeah.
You people really think about gay men glazing troons alot, dont you?!
>>544586465>beheading a swedeand they say niggers cant do anything right>>544586839i just cant wrap my head around the fact that they still suck at the game
>>544586839He probably got sentenced to no Surstromming for a whole week! A week!
>>544586936have you glazed today anon
>>544586937>i just cant wrap my head around the fact that they still suck at the gameAnon do you realize how common this is?
>>544586936Culinary terms and words were meant to stay in the kitchen, stop using them for your gay fantasies.
>>544586662and yes thats right2 min timers are gay and jeetjannies are too
>>544584013Seethe faggot
does the trooncord at least talk about the game atleast?
>>544587404>Took this long to figure out how "Inspect" works
>>544587114You can just tell this odough is a collosal faggot.
>>544587479they're posting r34 of kanna from blue archive atm
>>544585670Will it be good?
>>544587479They talked about it as much as this general did but opposite. Instead of hating Swiggers, they sucked their dicks. Both this general and the discord funny enough hate redditors
I can't help but applaud Swedes for the caves. Having 2 patriots fire their miniguns into a corridor filled to the brim with stalkers and stalker flesh is something else
>>544587637Probably not. Will probably be like the stim pistol.
>if you kill the bugs from a breach too fast it just respawns them AND moreI hate this god forsaken nignog planet
>>544587250>swiggers make game >swiggers shit on people for "sucking at game">swiggers say people should just get gud or lower diff>swiggers get btfo by lowest diff (D6)>over a year later those same swiggers still get rolled by D10i dont care how common it is, they have more freetime than nearly any other western dev would have but are such lazy niggers they wont play the game to make sure the thing to check balance, i have seen more effort from a youtube faggot who got hired as a lead dev who didnt know what the fuck he was doing. he was also less of a lying nigger.
>>544587637If their realism fetish applies, the longer barrel would imply better accuracy and velocity. But this is AH so expect stim pistol but gas
>>544587617based
https://files.catbox.moe/ts5kjn.zipHere you go /hdg/ join the tesla enjoyers club
>>544587572Just for the record: nothing outs someone as a plebbitor, newfag, pajeet, retard, troon, tourist, bot, etc. more than "inspect element".You don't need inspect element to (You) a post.
>>544587637Dead slot, unless this blows up bug holes or factories
>>544587617i dont know who that is but i believe it>>544587637you know damn well what the answer to that is>>544587979incorrect the stim pistol cant hit allies, this will auto track teammates
>>544588102Nice buzzwords, bro!
>>544586923he brought it up despite the PR risk
>>5445770912/4 diggers
>>544587637Probably only with smoke and nothing else.
>>544588102confrimes he's a retardbut sheeit nigga i didnt even know what "inspect element" was referring to cause the only time i open that shit is on accident
I personally don't want to see the day exosuits get buffed and can reload or change weapons, because that would just turn the whole game into retards bringing exosuits everywhere.
>throw pineapple into a group of 20+ bugs>zero killsEpic
shotguns are so fucking worthless it pisses me offthey should be amazing for claustrophobic caveshit vs bugs but even here they fucking suck, they have atrocious TTK and absolutely no crowd control whatsoever
>>544588102Wdym, how else would you?
>>544588971Hi rajeeth.I'm not telling you.
>>544588971Hes just seething he got called out as a samefag for some reason.
>>544588892>there are unironic faggots on the discord that think it needs a nerf now
>>544588904M90A has instant TTK on most things. Enough damage and pellets to decently often kill multiple things with a single shot if they are tightly packed.
>>544588414>Talking about the hidden nerfs is a PR risk>But lying on an update video, knowing dataminers will instantly know if you're bullshitting or not with their history of lying is not a PR risk at all
>>544588971It's very shrimple, you just click the button.
>>544585670>American hypothetical>"Ok so imagine eating"
>>544589437>"Only Americans eat"
>>544588892balanced and realistism-pilled gameplay>>544588904i dont expect any dev at this point to understand that shotguns can still be effective at 200 yards with a sabotbut this confrimes that swiggers have never touched anything bigger than a 28 gauge
>>544589204I'm not buying the premium goybond
>>544588849This.The only buff they should get is being able to bring multiple types of them.
>Check the livestream>"sigh ok guys we tried really hard to not nerf the coyote BUT WE JUST COULDN'T HELP IT!!!"Whhhyyyyy are swedes like this MY GOD I hate swiggers all of themI'm American. Eurobros, are swiggers really always like this?
>>544589204forgot about the m90a, it only has those stats cause the swiggers werent given a choice
>>544589672Yep they have a reputation for being insufferable.
>>544589078I'm white>>544589107That doesn't seem right>>544589418Those aren't options that I can see, do you need 4chanX for that? Because I don't like that plugin
>>544589981>That doesn't seem right>>544588102>>544587404Heres the post that set him off btw: >>544584013
>>544512970I feel better knowing I made them upset enough to go in the general to take a screencap and then cry on the discord in response.
>>544578648AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH L-L-L-L-L-L-L-LEAKS!??!??!?!??? I CAN'T AVERT MINE OWN EYES
>>544583107That's reddit as fuck
so they made it take one more round to light shit on fire? fucking sloptuber recommendations, why is this worth showing to me
>>544577091*AHEM* 2/4
>>544564861I wish it felt more like victory
>>544589549>>544589734Theoretically Punisher can also one shot most things M90A does but you need to be more precise and possibly luckier, doesn't feel as good.I think normal Breaker is nice too, good DPS. Go with small mags.
>>544589745were they always like this? i mean even back in the before times, like the 60s and 70s? how does a euro nation become this way, i mean at least the french and bongs have a few reasons for being snooty cunts but why the swedes
>>544588904What are you using exactly? The entire loadout including stratagems and booster.
>>5445770914/4
>>544590574Years of being invaded and conquered by the arabic invader tends to make swedes really sour and angry, so they use the little power they have left to make people miserable wherever they can.
>>544588069why the fuck are my CPU and GPU at 100%
>>544571965>stalwart tier cryptid stratagemBut the stalwart is good thoughever? At least on bugs and squids too but they don't exist
>>544590574The swedes had good reason to be smug cunts until fairly recently. They had one of the cleanest and safest countries in the world, high wages and a high quality of life.But because the sw*de lives on a high horse, they virtue signaled a little too hard, took in hundreds of thousands of undocumented sandniggers, their crime rates shot up to the fucking moon and their country is now the european capital for gang violence kek.
I refuse to use light pen weapons on this dog ass fart cloud planet. I'm not aiming for the soft points of the 20 alpha commanders who just spawned while getting assraped by stalkers from every direction.
I wish we could have permanent acid storm planets
Why are the stratagem versions of both laser and plasma considered mid when the primary versions are usually good?
>>544591291If I take a light pen primary I just usually then bring something else to deal with hard targets then for panic scenarios instead of 100% relying on weakspots
>>544588904gib shotguns more overpenetration
>>544591476I feel like you just answered your own question, they take a stratagem slot so they have a lot more scrutiny
coyote is still the best non-explosive weapon in the game by a wide margin and everyone and their mom is still defaulting to itwatch them nerf it again kek
>>544591291Ha hah. Imagine having an entire ammo type whose gimmick is dealing less than half it's displayed damage on 90% of the onscreen enemies. Ha hah
>>544591639>overpenetrationcan anyone explain how this works? I understand penetration slowdown, but is it reliant on angle as well as penetration value?
>>544592774>can anyone explain how this worksit doesn't
>>544590953oh so its just boomer syndrome: Swigger Edition making it even more insufferable because we're already tired of actual boomers>>544591291i dont use light pen on anything other than squids in which case i only use the Knight, light pen on other factions is just a bad idea unless you want to relegate your primary to slightly more effective secondary
>>544592903thanks, I knew my speargun was gaslighting me
I enjoy fighting bots on wide-open maps but it feels like you should just take explosion weapons for literally every enemy.>ERM WHY AREN'T YOU USING THE ERUPTOR>ERM WHERE IS YOUR GRENADE PISTOL>ERM WHERE IS YOUR THERMITE>ERM WHERE IS YOUR 500KG>ERM WHERE IS YOUR ORBITAL RAILCANNON>ERM WHY AREN'T YOU USING AN EATlike fuck off swiggers jesus christ
>>544589204halo shotgun is actually pretty underrated desuas weird as it may seem, I love bringing it on bots because of how well it can kill chaff>one shots troopers>one shots zerkers and devs to the guts>two shots strider legs>staggers shield devs so you can follow up with more shots>reloads as fast as it can fireits great
>>544592774if there's only one bodypart with none behind it, you will overmatch if your weapon's ap higher than said body parti.e you won't overpen a heavy devestator with railgun's abdomen shot because the shot will get caught by the backpack
>>544593027? You mean bugs?
>>544585983I feel this way also. The schizoid personality I guess.
What is the point of this thing. It is worse than the base liberator.
>at front of the squad>notice big blip on map but i dont see anything in the fog>shoot it to expose the stalker>its actually 10 in one place>they scatter>they rape my entire team somehow>they completely ignore me
>>544585983Wuh happen
>Devs on stream admitting they really are balancing the game on grunt fantasy.It's over.
>>544593447its "content"
>>544593447Dumb fucking idiot.
>>544580551Please respond and tell me I'm not crazy.
>>544593447It's suppressed :)
>>544593017>>544592903Correction, it WILL work, but only when you wanted it to not go through the enemy
>>544593642they've been saying that from the beginning and i would (possibly) be fine with that if the game wasn't full of jank swiggercode and mechanics that dont work - >>544592774
>>544593447They forgot silencers are near useless and buffed it's damage less than other SMGs. I actually liked it for having still high but more reasonable firerate than Knight and KZ, but it's no longer worth it.
>European posters are routinely the worst and most egregiously annoying>European game developers are routinely the worst and most egregiously annoyingHm. I'm noticing.
>>544594085all the discordtrannies who go here to ragebait and farm (You)s are european too
kto polak
>>544594242I am thoroughly not surprised. At all.
>>544583107Love the robutt
>>544594242jokes on them then, all the (You)s they get from me include words that will get them sent to prison for looking at
>>544594085>>544594242*eastern european
>>544568339>C4 pack is crazy good>6 "still not as good as thermite" grenades that are cumbersome as shit to detonate and take up both your back pack and support weapons slots.Yeah, sounds crazyCrazy to pay for it in the fucking first place
>>544595157trvth nvkec4s are a fucking meme no one will use after the first week or 2
>>544594636same
>>544593447"bUt iTs fRUm HaLOiD! aNd cOStS TWICE AS MUCH! thAT mEaNs iTS gOOd! sTeALth iS gOod aND wORkS pErFeCtLy!"
>>544595157>blow off factory strider chin guns with AP4 weapon>walks under it and chuck 2 thermites onto it's belly>win>C4 needs 2 charges to kill them anywayAnother scambond
>>544593642space marine is right there man
>>544595631or just do everything with the AC which also takes up both slots but has about 3 million more use cases than the c4
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244449325884/76561199108851031d10 whatevs
how do I get over my supply pack addiction
>>544593642I keep hearing this term, "grunt fantasy"What does that even mean? Like is the idea that grunts have shitty weapons therefore they refuse to give Helldivers overpowered weaponry?
This underground hive shit shows how stupid most players are. Level 150 retards bringing their standard shit load out to a map it doesn't work on at all. Good job bringing orbital napalm dumb fuck. Lot of good that's going to do us while we are cave crawling to blow up this faggot lung.
>>544595943Get addicted to AC instead
has the iluminate Watchers become more stupidier after the patch? I've kinda noticed that sometimes they ignore stuff like shots or stratagems that they previously wouldn't
>drop on oshaune d6>basically every group has sub 10 reinforcements left with no objectives done Why is this?
>>544596016It means your guy fucking sucks and all your weapons are barely functional while enemies can randomly one shot you from across the map. This is apparently appealing to the swedish mind.
>>5445959242/4
>>544596386but that hasn't really been the case with the game since 60 day patch?
>>544593520Anon can't handle forming relationships with other people, and thus pushes any potential friends away. There's a reason so many people are miserable and lonely, this is one of them. The only reason I have the one steam friend I actually talk to is because of a moment sort of like this. I couldn't imagine not having him around, or the other people I used to talk to, life would be so much worse.
>>544596016It's a garbage term shitters use to justify why they're dying so much so they blame it on dev balancingthe reality is, the game's not headed for a grunt fantasy nor a special forces fantasyit's in its own state where it's actually pretty balanced and you can get away with clearing missions without even using a single stimthe occasional bullshit death may happen, getting one-shot from a cannon turret and whatnot, but good helldivers have a strong enough kit to be able to make it out of max difficulty missions with minimal to no deaths
>>544596016you are a normal squishy human with a somewhat believable amount of resilience going up against alien horrors and your weapons don't have diamond tipped missiles as ammunition that can hecking pierce anything!
>>544596498Not really, because people keep yelling at narrowhead to cut that shit out despite their best attempts at steering the game towards that garbage.
>>544595507>aNd cOStS TWICE AS MUCHThis is the real kicker. Doesn't matter how shit the weapons, but charging fucking double? Insane.
>>544593245the railgun has higher AP than any part of a heavy dev and no penetration slowdown, shouldn't it be able pass through any part of a heavy dev? I'm also now realizing that it should pass through their shield but it doesn't...
>>544596673the shield has infinite hp so it stops everything no questions asked
WHERE IS THE HIVELORD?????? I MISS FIGHTING THEM SO FUCKING MUCH, WHY DID SWIGGAS DO THIS?
>>544595924full
>>544596607why would you want the game to turn into fortnite?
>>544590248I grew up in an age where stupid shit like this was the norm back in the 2000s or so. Stuff like this will always appeal to me out of pure nostalgia.
>>544580307ggs!
>>544596016>What does that even mean?You're supposed to feel like a Stormtrooper from Star Wars that misses all of his shots and then dies in one hit.
>>544596789seems like kind of a scam
>They actually are balancing the game for Rundivers style of gameplay instead of Fightdivers style.It's actually even more over than I thought.
>>544596386nigga the fucking game is supposed starship troopers (the movie)
>>544597043sounds like a skill issue
>>544580307ggs brospictured: gunship factory spawned inside outpost
>>544580551>>544593772framerate determines hit registration
>shit ton of games where you are an invincible one man army>one game where you essentially one of the marines following john halo>shitters want to be john halo instead of being one the brave human bros daring to be heroic despite insurmountable odds
>>544597098Then why are we limited to groups of four guys instead of a massive wad of SEAF soldiers? Why do each of those four guys we play as have full access to a personal Super Destroyer and Eagle Aircraft?If they wanted Helldivers to feel like Starship Troopers tonally, then they did fine, but if they wanted it to feel like you were playing as a regular fucking soldier then they failed dramatically by having each and every Helldiver play the role of an elite commando that puts regular soldiers to shame.
How is it believable that a space-faring empire would have such shit weapons to fight a three front war with
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244440977692/d10 oshaune
>>544597695To be fair, SEAF are the grunts. Helldivers are supposed to be elite special forces even if we're also wildly expendable
>>544597695>marines following john haloWe are the ODST, you couldn't even get that basic thing right you fucking retard.
>>544597945Uhh... satire?
IMO they should add weapon jamming. And a short delay before the gun fires, depending on length of pull. And having to press additional button to chamber the weapon instead of it being automatic when you are empty, like in hit FPS game Beyond Citadel (2005).
You know, I was kinda hoping with all the defending of Hellmire we would just sit back and let SEAF finally do something in the story but alas we still do everything, and by we I mean the people who still care about the MOs
>>544598008those niggas went down just as easily I literally replayed delta halo a few weeks ago
>>544587637it's strong, but you only get 2 mags
>>544598126 me>2005ok i have to go to sleep
>>5445979462/4
>>544598236>those niggas went down just as easilyTrained soldiers die from a bullet to the head just like anyone else, but that doesn't make them any less trained or exceptional in what they do. What's your point?
>>544589672But anon, dont you remember all those times you got kicked from the game for not having the Coyote equipped? Oh you dont? That never happened?......Uh sorry got to go, Dinner time!
>>544596171Pubbies are so retarded that the concept of running a build of all blues is foreign to them, even though 99% of the reds are worthless in caves and it's not looking any better for greens either.
>>544597991We get the support of a Super Destroyer, but are otherwise only marginally better than a SEAF.You could argue we're a bit like the Tempestus Scions. Better than a guardsman, but nowhere close to a space marine.
>>5445979462/4 starting
>>544587637So its just a weaker sidearm version of the spear? Holy fuck fire whoever designs this trash needs to be fired. How hard is it to think up interesting and fun weapons?
>>544598481guess what happens when a helldiver eats a round to the head too
>>544598209I think the implication is that on any planet where we're fighting for control, the SEAF are grinding away on the battle lines while Helldivers are deep-striking in enemy territory to commit acts of sabotage or conduct high value operations.Though it would be nice if we could occasionally have missions to drop in on the actual battle lines to help shift them in our favor. I want to see a horde of SEAF grunts and tanks blasting away at a horde of bot grunts and tanks.
>>544598352WHOREO UUUOOOOOOHHHHHHH WOLF PUSSY WOLF PUSSY WOLF PUSSY WOLF PUSSY WOLF PUSSY WOLF PUSSY WOLF PUSSY WOLF PUSSY WOLF PUSSY WOLF PUSSY GET BARTERED GET BARTERED GET BARTERED GET BARTERED GET BARTERED GET BARTERED
>>544598625>GreensTurrets are great what are you smoking? The caves have convenient openings to drop them near objectives.
>>544587637idk, do you really want to cc a single enemy? The Bushwhacker can stagger and then kill most things.
>>544598625it's not like you can call for blues in caves easily either... you just need your support weapon and exosuit, backpack if you aren't already wearing one. I imagine sentries are still ok because they have large killing radius and will work even with poor positioning if you manage to drop one through a hole in the ceiling.
>>544597945>>544598078Come to think of it, shouldn't the sci-fi equivalent of paratroopers be as well-trained and well-equipped as they were in reality?
Why does artillery come in at an angle but hellpod drops of reinforcements, turrets, and equipment come in vertically?
Digger bugs are fun, like melee feels viable against them.Also oshaune is a fucking snore fest. Feels like squids where it's just "bring support weapon and stagger or lose chud"
>>544598627>but are otherwise only marginally better than a SEAF.This is both a blatant lie, and a massive insult to yourself if you actually believe this.
>>544597945>realismoh ok, I guess we'll just sit on the Super Destroyer and control squads of Guard Dogs and bombard the planet without needing a marker.
>>544599017you can adeptly use practically every weapon system super earth has
>>544577091gg dorks
>>544599132Hellpods readjust mid flight
>>544599132probably a gameplay over logic thing to avoid hellpods impacting ground at an angle or ending up in weird places
>>544599017I mean we have super destroyers and 20mm handheld autocannons, mechs. We are far superior to ordinary paratroopers.>>544599132Hellpods have steering, even ours did before they nerfed it.
>>544599132Because otherwise you wouldn't get the funny "haha your stratagem got wasted on some dumb piece of environment, better clip it and post it on reddit!"
>>544599316>>544599338>>544599367These are actually reasonable responses and I declare you three anons to be good people.
>>544599367Yeah but the basic bitch weapons suck dick and perform worse than actual comparable weapons we have irl
>>544599210Are you retarded? I could pilot a SEAF and do fine with the Liberator and grenades.Sick of you low iq doughbois struggling to understand a human conversation.
>>544598723He dies. Now what does that have to do with their ability to shoot better and more accurately than SEAF, carry more gear for far longer and far faster than SEAF, melee giant bugs instead of just getting mauled like SEAF, keep firing while taking damage without freaking out like SEAF, rapidly swap between their arsenal and bounce between targets better than SEAF, and actively dodge and leap like maniacs unlike SEAF?Is your argument really that just because Helldivers don't have metal bones that it automatically makes them unskilled soldiers? Because that's honestly moronic.
Did they somehow make the game worse with the 5 week patch? I almost never experienced any bugs before but now I'm crashing to desktop just trying to select a mission sometimes.
>>544599760What did you expect. See you in 6 months.
>>544598962>Turrets are great what are you smoking?Not in caves. Half the time they don't drop where you deploy the beacon, the other times if it does it'll probably TK you anyway because its AI is retarded.
>>544599561I think they are resonable, people underestimate how large even smallest enemies are.
>>544599760No, it was substantially worse.Frame rate has improved as well.
>>544599978 mehonestly this chart is fucking trash the visualization is all wrong thanks reddit
Dev heads should be ap2 Shouldn't have changed this frankly.
>>544599949I have had pretty good luck with them going where I want near objectives. However calling them outside the cave in one of those small open areas they go all over the fucking place.
>>544599561How so? Do you mean just the range or something? A lot of games greatly reduce the range of engagement.Other than that, everything dies from just a few bullets.
What did Joel mean by this?
>>544599643>I could pilot a SEAF and do fine with the Liberator and grenades.No, because your movespeed and ergo would be nerfed to hell, you would have to stand perfectly still and take 5 seconds to throw each grenade, you could only aim for center mass and plink every shot off of a Dev chest because you can't aim for weakpoints(SEAF bullets are AP3), and every time you take damage you lose complete control and start firing wildly in all directions while standing completely still, and also you can't dive.We are directly shown in game that SEAF are completely incapable of the shit Helldivers can pull off, so what are you even trying to argue at this point?
>>544599978Helldivers are 8 feet tall
>https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/5922>https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/BODK1N/mods?gameId=6119Modfags... Which is the better weapon sound mod?
>>544600409If I had a SEAF with nerfed stats, I would perform better than you on a Helldiver. That is facts.
>>544599010Here's the catch. You die in some random fuck off corner in the maze that is the caves, the run back to pick up your kit in that maze is going to be total shit that will likely see you dead before you even get back to the support weapon. Which is why having a backup support weapon + backpack is better than nothing. Besides the point that just having a spare supply backpack to call in is like a longer cooldown resupply.
>>544599663my argument is despite all this training you are still a regular human and the entire game is based on this fact. most of our weapons are just slightly altered real world analogues, the game is clearly designed around the idea of a modern army fighting giant bugs and terminators just simplified like letting you call in air strikes without having to call some faggot above you in the chain of command
>>544600539The halo shotgun mod was essential.Talon Star wars blaster was great if you got the right one.Las gun sickle.The abjud bolter modThe battle field liberator modsFart orbital gasMiku beam
>>544600394>its realDo you think if enough redditors saw this and freaked out we'd get an MO to clear this entire area up?
>>544600583You are the one that claimed to only be "marginally" better than a SEAF, and after watching how poorly SEAF fight I know for a fact you've never played over d6. Cope all you want, you're the one who said it.
>>544600394Remember the first six months or so of this game when you were actually allowed to take territory and the faggot GM wouldn't throw an unbeatable incursion the moment you started making progress?
>>544599010>>544600689>bring autocannon>bring autocannon mech>use one at a time and alternate between them if I diesolved it for you
>>544600863See, you are too low IQ to be considered human. Fact is, if I pilot a SEAF, I am better than you with your metaslave Helldiver even after you get the buffs you begged for, because you are subhuman.However, if you pilot the SEAF, you are even worse than the AI.
>>544599561you can shoot the head off an alpha commander in around 10 liberator rounds and that's the biggest non heavy bug unit
>>544601236Please ask yourself how any of what you posted has anything to do with comparing in-universe Helldivers to SEAF soldiers.You realized you didn't have an argument and were making yourself look like an idiot, so now you've stopped arguing completely and have fully resorted to blind assumptions and lazy insults to try and protect your incredibly fragile ego when I doubt you even play the game to begin with.
>>544601726So you admit that you were wrong and that what you said had nothing to do with comparing in-universe Helldivers to SEAF soldiers.But in typical subhuman troon fashion, you won't just admit that you were wrong and stupid.
>>544601001why does this guy sometimes have an eye patch?
>>544600768>my argument is despite all this training you are still a regular humanI never said that they weren't. What I said was that there's a massive difference between a regular human that's never shot a gun in their life, and a regular human that's been trained and hardened into being able to do what Helldivers are shown to be able to do. You don't have to be a genetically engineered freak of nature to be more capable than the average person.I also wouldn't call Super Earth a modern army considering the lasers, plasma, FTL, stims, and other things, but I get what you mean.
>>544597695>>544597991>>544598627I feel like SEAF would definitely be considered grunts whereas Helldivers are considered more like elite gruntsShock troopers who go in with a high risk of casualties, but are able to execute difficult missions with their heavy firepowerI like to imagine something like a mix of fallschirmjager and SS employing blitzkreig tactics, crippling strategic points behind enemy lines
>>544602037>he thinks we don't have some dope ass laser and plasma weapons being cooking up in some secret bunkeralas they won't ever be necessary as modern warfare is just some jackass blowing you up with a drone
>>544602037Helldivers are not shown as particularly capable in the cinematics or artwork.The players can have a wide skill range.
>>544601869>I said that Helldivers are shown to be infinitely more capable than SEAF in all ways both physically and skill-wise, which paints them as elite soldiers in comparison>(You) bring up that you're an epic elite gamer who could make it work, despite that missing the point and dodging the argument entirely>I bring up that regardless of your skill, you'd be playing with a massive wall of nerfs because you're no longer playing as a Helldiver, and are instead playing as SEAF with worse training and conditioning, with you indirectly accepting this fact by admitting that you'd be nerfing yourself by choosing to play as an actual grunt.>(You) resort to insults and bragging about your supposed skill and how good you are at the game.I hope you don't do this often, anon. Last (You).
>>544602502>modern warfare is just some jackass blowing you up with a droneIt's kind of funny that we don't have an actual remote controllable explosive drone. Closest things we have are the seekers and the solo silo, but I don't think either of those really count.
>>544602464That's why I say Tempestus Scions.Their Ballistic Skill is 4 instead of 3 like Guardsmen. They also have better armor, guns, and typically a support vehicle like a Valkyre or Taurox Prime. But they still lack many improved stats and equipment that Space Marines have.
>>544602605Re-reads the conversation a thousand times until you gain an IQ point, numbskull. At this point I'm guessing you're just in delusional denial at your own stupidity since you've argued against your original point due to me pointing out how stupid it is with my replies.
>rupture strain is back but it's not on oshaune???????????
>>544601063I run autocannon + emancipator + supply pack for emergency supplies if someone already called down the supplies somewhere else. And the last can be whatever the fuck, it doesn't really matter.
>>544601236this reeks of jeet syntax, dont you have a monitor lizard to be raping?>>544601726he's brown, and i'd bet money he's one of those fags from way back that used to go on about their gay headcanon of how the seaf are the "real" heros who fight insurmountable hordes with basic equipment while helldivers are just cleanup and recon
>>544603161Why would the rupture strain be on Oshaune
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>>544603291>Helldivers are marginally better than SEAF but also have the support of a Super Destroyer which makes a huge difference.>You, a subhuman nigger, starts screeching and shitting out of your mouth, seemingly incapable of understanding human conversation.
>>544602928>Tempestus ScionsIt's unfortunate that a lot of people act like Space Marine and Guard conscript are the only options when there's a literal sect of elite infantry with better gear, better training, better indoctrination, and better access to military resources that's tasked with deep strike operations behind enemy lines that regular guardsman couldn't possibly pull off, all while still being regular old humans.
>>544600539You can have all of them at the same time bro.also pic rel
>>544603161>no rupture strain>no hivelordOshaune got shafted so hard
>>544603691Oshaune without the hivelord is like the 4th reich without it's Fuhrer
>>544603291I don't want to sound like I'm discrediting SEAF or anything, it's just incredibly obvious that if you dropped a squad of 4 SEAF with 20 respawns into a d10 mission it wouldn't go well at all, and that if each SEAF was able to aim, dive, run, and huck grenades like a Helldiver they'd be genuinely terrifying and make mincemeat out of literally every enemy.Honestly all I really want for the SEAF is for them to stop killing themselves on landmines and actually path away from red strats and melee enemies.
>>544603691God I love no hive lord.
Swiggas probably thought having both Hivelord and rupture strain on Oshaune would be too much for gamer dads so they removed them. So I guess this MO will be a cakewalk
>>544604037You're retarded.We are going to get rupture bugs then hive lords and dragon roach. Then like some gay no ammo shit Or maybe we'll just take oshaune and then get to do the bot stuff.
>>544604008I'm still baffled at their flesh having 100% explosive resist.
>>544596016>What does "grunt fantasy" even mean?From the mouth of Pileofshitd himself; https://youtu.be/CVItevGgOnE?t=17090>"Helldivers 2 was originally envisioned as a co-op action shooter where you play as the evil guys in the galaxy -so your storm troopers or whatever it might be in pop culture- and how would you fare as one of the extras in the background? Like you know when they try to breach the cell block in star wars and the first stormtrooper through the door, he of course gets shot in the chest by Han Solo.">"And that's the question, of would you do better climbing into that room trying to capture the bad guys, that are trying to take over your lovely death star.>"Would you be able to survive in a galactic war without plot-armor to protect you is really the question that we ask with Helldivers.>"and this then turned into our original vision for helldivers, which is that we wanted to do as realistic of a take on what it would be to be one of those squads of stormtroopers or starship troopers mobile infantry or whatever pop culture grunts that you can imagine."What would realistically happen if you were one of those evil guy pop-culture grunts? You would die. Your not a main character with plot-armor. When Grunthead refers to their "vision," this is what they mean. What would realistically happen if you were a Helldiver and dived onto a bot/bug/squid planet? You would die. Pilestedt has said Helldivers have a life expectancy of 2 minutes. https://x.com/Pilestedt/status/1759551906668540153This the grunt fantasy. You're just a faceless background extra grunt without plot-armor in a realistic galactic war against giant aliens and terminators.
>>544603631it was better when they were just stormtroopers, be it inquisitorial or regular
>>544604220source?
>>544604382>stormtroopersEh, potato potahto
>>544604324>You would die. Your not a main character with plot-armor. When Grunthead refers to their "vision," this is what they mean. What would realistically happen if you were a Helldiver and dived onto a bot/bug/squid planet?Considering most of my deaths have been directly or indirectly caused by their stupid fucking cartoon ragdoll physics, nah. I'd win.
>>544604382They wanted a name they could copyright.Everyone still calls them Imperial Guard and Imperial Stormtroopers rather than Astra Militarum and Tempestus Scions.
>>544596536>the reality is, the game's not headed for a grunt fantasy nor a special forces fantasyThe reality is that they balance the game around grunt fantasy. The literal let's play session they did had one of the devs even say it again, well after PileofBork said it and then roached out.
>>544604637>>544604767tempestus scion armour looks way worse than kasrkin or inquisatorial stormtrooper carapace, that's why the change sucks.
*trivializes rupture strain bug*
>>544605040For me, its the purifier
oh my goddd bruh
do we like the knight vs predator strain?
>>544605190>doesn't even attempt shooting the enemy at any point>just tries to trot away while in waternice one retard
>>544604324Has there been another game that has the gameplay clash as heavily with the developers' intended vision as Helldivers does?>>544604680Exactly. They want a "grunt fantasy" but then give each Helldiver a personal battleship and air support, four plot armor syringes, and send them in tiny groups of four where they STILL come out victorious against massive armies of supernatural enemies. If they really wanted a grunt fantasy game you'd drop in teams of 50 people with 500 reinforcements and no support weapons while you run into the meatgrinder of a frontline, but that's not what they fucking did.
>>544604324Which is awesome.The old X-COM games were like that, too. Your point man would get blown away by an alien weapon instantly. But you deployed dozens of soldiers. The new X-COM games have departed from the grunt route and instead you have 4-6 guys wipe out tons of aliens.
Of the 42 primaries>15 are included at the start / in the starter warbond>2 are unavailable for new players because of FOMO>25 are DLCOf the 29 secondaries>2 are available at base game>27 are DLCOf the *94* armor sets>5 are unavailable (FOMO / pre-order)>11 are available at base game>87 are DLC
>>544605345Its funny because "grunt" isnt even derogatory. But the Swede mind it probably is. It used to be a bad thing but it became a more respectable thing. https://www.veteransdisabilityinfo.com/blog/what-is-a-grunt-in-the-military-and-why-do-we-appreciate-them/
>>544604846Kasrkins did look pretty cool (although technically they aren't even real stormtroopers, but rather an equivalent elite unit raised on Cadia).
>>544605190You're having a little too much sex with bugs, there.
>>544605345>If they really wanted a grunt fantasy game you'd drop in teams of 50 people with 500 reinforcements and no support weapons while you run into the meatgrinder of a frontline,Honestly my memories of playing the old star wars battlefront games gave me a better grunt fantasy than helldivers 2 ever did. Helldivers 2 feels more like a Commando/Shock Trooper fantasy
>>544605821>too much sex with bugsNo such thing as too much sex with bugs
>>544605637correction, there's about 3 or so armors from events that are handed out to new players
>>544606068Titan oyakodon...
>Admits to shadow nerfing the Coyote specifically after weeks lying that they wouldn't and then that they didn't>"We didn't... WANT to touch the coyote.">"this weapon shouldn't be a silver bullet to everything">Says while bringing the Eruptor with the exact same load out to every single mission>"We don't want to overcorrect">Doubles the already previously doubled drag on several weapons. >"""Slightly""" increases durability on a dozen enemies by 20 to 30%.>Makes many enemies more resistant to fire>Makes all enemies more resistant to all status effects by "Fixing" the status randomization system>"It should all feel strong, it should all feel good.">Makes everything feel worse>"We promise to be more open and communicate better!">"Maybe I shouldn't be talking about any of this..."It's like an abusive relationship. They keep SAYING they're going to do better and then they punch us in the face saying it's our fault for finding a meta in their monkey paw balanced bullshit. Just lie after lie after lie to keep up dangling as long as they can.
>>544606251>"Fixing" the status randomization systemwhat's this about?
>>544605640Reminds me of earlier when someone posted one of the devs talking about how they don't talk about weakpoints in game because it's too videogamey, and someone immediately following up with a real world war training video about the proper points on a tank to aim for.You'd think a swede with their mandatory military service would know what they're talking about, but no.
>>544606432Im convinced Swedish military "service" is just a 9 month daycare where they larp as soldiers.
>>544606541that's how conscription works 9 times out of 10
>>544606232>oyakodonTitan and spitter?
>>544605637Dumb fucking moron.
>>544606941Lol seething swede.
>>544606541There's no incentive to do anything with conscripts, since they will never be promoted to take on real responsibilities.All military funds would logically be spent on career soldiers who will stick around, while conscripts just do pushups or something.
>>544607181So its basically a boy scouts camp for adults?
>>544604680>nah. I'd win.And it is this fact that pisses off Sweden so much. Fredrik was "horrified to see people crushing harder difficulties weeks after launch." Have you seen how the devs play? Can't you imagine them trying to play Diff 5+ pre-release and being like >waow we all just died over and over. the game is so hard haha. I can really feel the grunt fantasy experience. there's no way they'll be beating this, the players will have a real challenge ahead of them. :)Arrowhead was sure the game was extremely difficult based on their own playtests, which is exactly what they wanted. Then the game released and it turned out the game was not as difficult as they thought and this horrified them. The Swedes want the game to be as difficult for you as it is for them. Unbeatable above Diff 5.
>>544606941Point still stands, vast majority of the unlocks are going to either take newfriends hours of grinding to unlock or be effectively paid addons. The last stratagem handed out for free was the Grenadier Battlement seven months ago. Liberty Day in the original game brought new difficulties, weapons and tools. Try not to get your brand new cape wrapped around a Swede's dick while you're busy sucking it dry, faggot.
>>544604835just because they say it is doesn't mean it isthe current balance direction feels like a net neutral, especially with some of these bullshit enemies getting nerfed with additional weakpoints in the recent patchthe general feel is like you're an elite soldier that has a 30-60% chance of dying, but is highly revered as a hero (even as a martyr with various gameplay and lore references to that)and that's just how it is down to it's core, you feel pretty badass with all your heavy gear and weaponry but if you find yourself cornered with no stims left, you kind of accept that and throw a grenade or stratagem at your feetif the devs were to change that core gameplay too drastically, a lot of people would complain
>>544605040Trivializes everything.It's basically new eruptor
>100 SC dropOshavne ProvidesHalf the pelican POIs are triple support weapon drops.....
>>544604489My astral projection into arrowhead HQ
>>544595924good games anonsthe true diver digs a hole and gets stuck in it
>>544606362This vid breaks it down in a long winded way:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir4YABCxzpsBut if you want a TLDW: There's been a system in the game since the beginning that never worked that randomized the amount of applications it took for an enemy to be affected by a status effect (Fire, Gas, Stagger, Stun, etc).But since the system was broken, all effects were guaranteed to happen when the minimum threshold was reached. Example: (These numbers are not accurate and are simply for explanation- I ain't looking that shit up) One Pummeler shot does 3 stagger damage. A warrior has a minimum stagger value of 2, so with the broken system, one shot would always stagger a warrior. However the Warrior has a Maximum stagger value of 4, and with the system fixed, it takes two shots before the the stagger is *Guaranteed*. It can still happen in one, since you're still hitting the minimum value, but it can now also take two. So half of the time now, you won't stagger in the first shot, effectively nerfing the stun potential overall thanks to averages and all that shit.This affects all status and their applicators, in some cases it not really impactful, but in others it really can be. And they never told us this system was fixed, they just let everything feel worse without any explanation, hoping we wouldn't notice like all of their shadow nerfs.
>>544604229Probably don't want hellbomb pack doing like quintuple damage >>544607689>>544606362Debunked.The issue is that the status effect tick reduction is on the same frame as registering if the status effect applies. Which means you basically coin flip if you're applying the status effect before or after reduction which lowers it to 1.9 (needs 2).
>>544581257I ask because I the current patch it is impossible to zap yourself with it
>>544599978Yeah even scavengers are pretty big. picunrelated
lobby dokoi cant stand the pubbies on oshaune
>>544578881Yes but it won't zap yourself.I wish it didn't zap allies too frankly. It's cool how I can cc shit in my face with it.
>>544595924ggz frens, shame about the planned josut
>>544607986nigga I posted one and you didn't join
>>544606432>>544606541>>544607181It's not even a conscript thing. It's a mentality called "boot" Every retard that passed boot camp gets a inflated ego thinking they are hotshit and the authority on all things military because they got taught how to shoot a gun. I know one faggot in the US military that likes to act smart and insufferable about guns and the military. And... he's just a heli mechanic who occasionally shoots guns as a hobby. I have no doubt AH is filled with boots and it might be even worse because their culture doesn't idolize the military. Meaning they act even more insufferable to the rest of the community who are just civilians
>>544600442What the fuck is the COB Genetics feeding them???
>>544608026>last posted like an hour ago
>>544607449>Half the pelican POIs are triple support weapon drops.....Well if they're pelicans that crashed after picking up divers from extraction, it kind of makes sense they have support weapons. Most of us don't drop them before boarding.That actually explains all the possible drops really. We're picking up what they picked up during their missions! How very depressing!>>544607869>Which means you basically coin flip if you're applying the status effect before or after reduction which lowers it to 1.9 (needs 2)So it's even WORSE than what I just explained because it's *Completely* random?Joy.
>>544608345>So it's even WORSE than what I just explained because it's *Completely* random?>Joy.well it's not intentionally random, it's random because of a timing issue in the code. Something that could be fixed pretty fast frankly.
>https://files.catbox.moe/ug3cvd.mp4
>>544607895>Yeah even scavengers are pretty big.I'd say they're a pretty good size
>>544608210yeah and I was playing till about 15 mins ago. where were you?
>>544608157cum
South Korea my greatest ally...
It's calling me again...
>>544600539neither, install mwii sound pack
>>544608624They going through it
>>544608473>Dinner? Eaten.
>>544605301>halo shotgunhe probably ran out of ammo kek
>>544608973they expect one of us in the wreckage, brother.
>>544609256I like how I've been forced to bring ballistic pistols just for backup lately.I know people would bring supply pack more, but ammo mods for mission mods would be cool
Is the laser dog bugged? I can't get it shoot consistently
>>544599978>>544607895Scale is pretty easy to lose track of in video games, particularly third person games.The most stark example of this I find is in Monster Hunter. Those things are FUCKING HUGE, like even the smallest are rivaling elephants in not straight blowing them out of the water. Even the ones with irl analogues are way bigger, like average Anjanath are still At Least half again as big as the largest T-Rexes on record. But as said, a lot of that size impact is just lost thanks to the perspective we have of everything and how fast everything happens.Helldivers at least gets somewhat impact when things are close enough to actually tower over you, or with the Hivelord in general.
actual game discussion has been postponed to bring you the 6 gorillionth about sweden
people who pull out spreadsheets and stats 24/7 are what's wrong with this game
>>544609564>wtf why do people want to know the damage of guns and enemy health in a game about shooting enemies with guns?stupid nigger
>>544609564The game being esoteric and forcing people to learn these numbers did that.Durable damage was a mistake.
https://files.catbox.moe/nchzd5.mp4
>>544609564you don't get it man I need to optimize every second of my gameplay, I always put in the correct amount of rounds on an alpha commander for it to go down every single time without wasting ammo
>>544609506This reminds me, what do Terminids eat? Especially on transformed Hive Worlds where everything is bug.
>>544609998Honestly? Probably mushrooms considering that the bugs have some sort of symbiotic relationship with all the fungus they're seen with.
>>544609998when we first invaded hellmire, the planet was actually a lot more hospitable. My guess is that the termanids terraform the planet and then perform agriculture.
>>544609998They seem like they're similar to bees, so maybe their own fungus/whatever their structures are made of
>>544609998They're like bees given that E-711 is basically bug honey
>>544609564>there was a time when the breaker spray and pray literally couldn't damage the BUG EGGS objective because it had 0 (0) armor penetration>a fact that would have been excused as a "bug" had it not been for datamining the AP valuesyou need spreadsheet autists to keep devs honest
>>544609224appropriate response to flashlight users. maybe too lenient>>544609998>what do Terminids eat?Lead
>>544609638>>544609738>>544609967yknow you could just maybe try testing it ingamelike in actual practice instead of just looking at numbers on a screen
>>544610453I have autistic people who do that for me so I don't have to waste my time
>>544607303do you think high difficulty levels in other games should be easy or just in helldivers?
>>544587572>le inspect element ehehimagine being this much of a subhuman
now that the coyote has been somewhat brought in line, I need the eruptor raped and killed
>>544609998>what do Terminids eat?Besides the obvious answer of people? Probably anything organic. Hell they might even have their own self sustaining kind of terraforming with the gloom going on. Eat what they produce themselves or even a partially cannibalistic nature like the 40k Orks, with some bugs being bred to be eating my bigger bugs. Considering the gloom seems to be literal spores they might just be the Bug version of Orks, sudo-fungal existence and all.Or maybe they eat oil. Like actual oil, not "Element 710". They burrow down to the reservoirs on the various planets they infest and eat the oil (and maybe coal) and convert it into 710. They do leave a lot of corpses and vegetation around. Though not as many as one might think for maybe a mix?I don't know, them just some ideas.
544610717>Still seethingYou aint Hiroo Onoda, bro. Give it up.
>>544609818my fucking sides
>>544609998>what do Terminids eat?Cum
>>544609998>This reminds me, what do Terminids eat?Im firmly of the mind that Terminids have evolved to be cannibalistic considering theres no other way they can sustain such high numbers on hunting other species alone.
>>544611120Who makes these? Is there an archive of them?
>>544611227>>544610798>>544610137>>544610206Demz Ork bugz
>>544610168>The vegetable farms I had my Terminids planted to grow food, ruined. Years of insect taming - wasted.>The cache of super credits the Automatons would have used to fund schools, plundered.
>>544611540what are bots going to do with super earth currency?
>>544611715spam leftover payphones on captured planets with scam calls to uncontested sectors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Gxvp5M8-UFor liberty
https://files.catbox.moe/ncvg0o.mp4can't wait to reenact this when lava biome drops
>>544612018Pure evil.
hey quick check in, havent played since the first oshaune weekhave the performance issues been fixed in the latest patch? are automatons playable now? i just remember they were causing crashes when last i played
>>544612218very much sothings are smoother overall and load times have gotten better
>hidden enemy durability buffssveden...
>>544612218nope, still same as ever
>>544612218if you were having issues before, you will have issues now. none of the root causes have been addresses
>>544612218Its a bit better but theres still the issue of explosions causing audio issues to progress to freezingThe game still hard locks PCs
>>544568339Does anyone know whether the armors are light/medium and which ones are which?
>>544612504the low poly shell one is mediumrest are light
>>544612218mileage may vary ive had little issues unless i alt tab mid dropping into mission other people havent had shit fixed for them.
>>544612330Bratty catbot... Needs correction...
>>544607303Nah, they just wanted you to use voice comms and coordinate to beat the higher difficulty.But there's not much reason to do that. The worst thing that can happen is you accidentally overlap red strats.The only pseudo-roles are based on which support weapon you take, but typically your overall kit will compensate for your support weapon's role.Team reload exists but is not that useful.The best improvement to teamwork was the addition of the car.They should probably think up better objectives for teamwork.
I feel as though squids need more missions.
>hover pack>pineapple>diggers bug breachesWish me luck
>>544610453I did, then I was stuck using it for the entire mission. Like how they said they changed roach health to 4000 which I knew spear did 4000 damage. Little did I know they two stage roach HP which made spear useless for killing it. Same goes for constitution, got stealth nerfed like crazy against hive guards and fucked by the health increase of overseers.
>>544613271pineapple is pretty solid against diggers actually. It unearths all of them, and if you cook it right you'll kill any small chaff around them. It also fucks groups of small chaff like hunters and pouncers. Which pairs well with the ap3 shit you're probably bringing for diggers.
>>544610798>Probably anything organic.Fucking 'Nids.
>>544613317i really wish it was heavy peni assumed it was on release and thought it was neat but because it isn't it's just a pure ceremonial gunit'd definitely be a top contender with heavy pen capability, i wonder how much of the damage would have to be changed to accomodate it
>>544613441I don't give a shit about unearthing them, I'm going for big kill streaks.
>>544613534use gas then chud
>>544613527>it'd definitely be a top contender with heavy pen capability, i wonder how much of the damage would have to be changed to accommodate itnothing honestly.>pp armor lets you do 220 AP4 damage per swing>basically have a short range arc thrower
>>544613573Overdone, overused, boring.
>>544611302>Who makes these?@Macanick_>Is there an archive of them?https://mega.nz/folder/O740BRQB#BRPYXWbEwKKRTHHfXrzvtQ
>>544612536Epic thanks anon
>>544613919anytime king
>>544613896Awesome, thanks
Pineapple is absolute irredeemable dogshit without damage.
>>544612149two-handed vibro/energy odachi when?I need it to use the maniac laugh and then yeet myself at a charger
>>544613317>they said they changed roach health to 4000they said they changed the wings to 4000, not the whole thing>Little did I know they two stage roach HP which made spear useless for killing it. excess damage blows right through bleedout HP. if it didn't then the RR couldn't one-shot factory strider bellies or the deadeye couldn't one-shot voteless with a chest shot>Same goes for constitution, fucked by the health increase of overseers.the only part that got an HP increase was the head of flying overseers, but you're forgetting they also lowered the armour of the helmet. Before the patch the constitution did 117 damage to the 150 HP head because the head had 3 armourafter the change it does 180 damage to the 200 HP head. It took two shots to headshot flying overseers before the change and it takes two shots to headshot flying overseers after the change.I'm sorry but you're just getting shit wrong and complaining about it or imagining shit to complain about
>>544614740If melee support weapons were as strong as lightsabers I would use them
It's not even so much the nerfs. I mean it is, it very much is a main issue along with performance. But it's the LIES that are killing any good will they have left.Nerfs and performance issues suck and will kill the game eventually but this constant stream of BULLSHIT, of them LYING To Our Faces at every turn? False promises that they're not going to ruin our fun only to nerf and take away as much as they can while trying to gaslight us that they didn't do anything as the proof spills out of the seams everywhere you look? That's just them putting a bullet in almost every chamber now...
>>544612330>>544612710
>>544615249QA lead doesn't know shit about the intentions of the actual development team, you're a fool to have believed him
>>544615369>QA lead doesn't know shitSeconding this.
>>544615661baskinator-chan....
>>544612710
>>544614910>>544614740>backpack+2 handed melee sword>does machete damage with saber attack speed, and all swings make one full forward step>holding ads 'activates' the blade and it begins to accumulate heat/fire damage while active. The last 3rd of the gauge leaves flames on the ground near the swing>an activated blade gains heavy pen and causes burning on hit>if activated too long, the wielder catches fire and the blade is forced into cooldown and cannot be reactivated until coldAlthough, I'd be cool with a basic support melee weapon 2hander without a backpack as long as it's a long katana and I can use the warp pack with it.>new victory emote, seppuku>new emote, approaching storm: sheath your blade and attack in one swift motion. Like the quick draw but for a melee weapon
yfw this BEAUTIFVL JAPANESE QVEEN joins your lobby, struggles, dies and then ragequits?
this shit better be liberated or the preds are gone and replaced with the diggers by the time I wake up or I am going to Atomic Drop Sweden.
alright got through the free one. What should my first warbond be.
>>544616263Democratic DetonationServants of FreedomUrban LegendsPolar PatriotsSteeled VeteransAre the best options, top to bottom.
>>544615369>>544615661>They Lie even to their own QA teamAnd that makes it Better?
>>544616263Viper Commandos just because it has cool armor
>>544616258Why do they always rage quit after one death?
>>544583429>irreparably biased against the amendment for some completely unknowable schizo reasonOh its just the "n*grah is my boogeyman" spammer who starts shitting on whatever the webmfag uses.
>>544616397well u cant suicide more than once hehehehhh
>>544616263Whichever one has the grenade pistol. The secondary that all other secondaries are compared to. For good reason.
Tell me about this thing.
>>544616571it's ugly and nerfed to shit
>>544616571i see everyone post its the best AR in the right hands yet i never see anyone use this supposed best AR
>>544616571it's overrated as shitit used to be a decent gun in a sea of unusable garbage so people put it on a pedestalthose days are long gone so now it's just a mid gun that's outclassed by several good guns and people are still putting it on a pedestal because they're retards
>>544616571I remember back when it released green and tan and only after a day or two they realized it was fucking ugly and repainted it
>>544616571pound for pound some of the best damage to fire rate on an AR, but held back by a shitty reload and anemic mag size
>>544616571Put it to the highest rpm.Also always remember to put it at the highest rpm at the start of a mission or if you respawn.It's the best AR, desu.No recoil, high damage, extremely good ergo.Too bad it's still an AR, but it's very good if you like ARs.
>>544616571It's okay, I don't like it all that much because it's difficult to control compared to the Liberator. Combination of high recoil and small magazine work against each other, because if you try to get closer to make landing each shot easier, it also puts you in more danger because you'll be caught reloading more often due to the smaller magazine.
>>544616571base liberator is better
Stealth warbond may be a betrayal but the sniper warbond might still be great.
>>544616571Got skipped for buffs in the last patch so its main upside (verry high damage per bullet resulting in a facemelting dps with surprisingly moderate recoil) has been made almost completely obsolete.
>>544617163you can't increase the damage on the tenderizer any more than it has or else it will become a full auto zero recoil diligence
>>544616571it's the Morita from Starship Troopers but also yet another ap2 rifle and as such functionally superfluous
>>544617291They could at least bump it to 110 because drag will make it deal 109.9999 damage to devastator heads
SAAR
>>544615867why did she take this picture and upload it? did she genuinely think she looked good?
>>544615867Small tits Big brapper...my only weakness..
>>544615883full?
>>544617618robutt....
New>>544617806>>544617806>>544617806
>>544617816SAAR YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL BUMP LIMIT BEFORE BAKING NEW THREAD BLOODY BASTARD
>>544616752They would have kept it ugly like a lot of the other shit, but the trailer showed how it looked before they made it look like shit so because of "false advertising" they reverted it.
>>544617902This but unironically.
>>544614881Yes it was implied the wing was changed to 4000.And in my exerience no it doesn't one shot the wings. The constituion health change negates the one shot it should be taking.>the only part that got an HP increase was the head of flying overseers, but you're forgetting they also lowered the armour of the helmet.yes I did which is why when I tested it I was disapointed to see that they weren't one shot. But if I say looked at the spread sheet data or any number changes more closely I would have known this. Thus debunking the claim that you should just blindly test things.
