Not Reading It EditionLast Thread: >>543858058>Read First: https://i.imgur.com/lwWTTp9.png>PSA: https://rentry.org/AntiwhineMkIII▶Cloud Serviceshttps://featherless.aihttps://novelai.nethttps://openrouter.ai▶Frontendshttps://koboldai.org/cpphttps://sillytavern.comhttps://gitgud.io/mir/storypad-qthttps://github.com/lmg-anon/mikupad▶Additional Information>Chat Models — e.g. AetherRoom, Claude: >>>/vg/aicg>Local Models — e.g. Command R, Mistral, Qwen: >>>/g/lmg▶Game(s)https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620▶Tools & ResourcesWiki: https://aids.miraheze.orgPrompts: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/NAI Guide Collection: https://rentry.org/guide-collectionOther/Historical: https://rentry.org/aids-miscellany>AID: https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you▶/aids/ EventsThemed Prompts: https://aids.miraheze.org/wiki/Theme_Fridays>Theme Fridays have transformed into Theme Months!>Write prompts for this month's event, Monster Month! It's not actually Horror Month, please ignore the last OP that claimed it was Horror Month, the baker responsible has been sacked. >>541595997▶Model News>(10/01) Z.AI releases GLM-4.6: https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6 ; NovelAI updates untuned preview to GLM-4.6: https://novelai.net/updates>(09/29) Deepseek releases Deepseek-V3.2-Exp: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929 ; Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5>(09/26) NovelAI releases GLM-4.5 (Untuned Preview) for Opus: https://blog.novelai.net/text-model-release-introducing-glm-4-5-untuned-preview-for-novelai-opus-4aa866c8a0d5>(09/11) NovelAI releases Character Reference: https://files.catbox.moe/08fdu6.png>(08/21) DeepSeek releases DeepSeek-V3.1: https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/1958417062008918312▶Thread News>(10/24) Emacs Update: >>543968861 https://files.catbox.moe/wfmxb2.el
Someone make a Halloween prompt about killer clown girls
What's everyone's favorite mind control prompt?
Have Sage's prompts fixed GLM slop yet?
>>544589863loses to nutbuster dragon
>>544590718Sister's Boyfriend Hypnosis.
Soooo what happened to the director mode the Novelai guys teased a while ago? I thought it would come with the character reference thing but that arrived first.
What's new in the hood my niggas?
>>544595043Same shit, different day
>>544592339What director mode?
>AI anime girl says that "flirting is a two-player game, and you're just not my type."
>>544606907You should respect her for that.
>>544606907https://youtu.be/YiKm_dxgKQI
Why is furry porn the comfiest porn?
novelai glm is so sloppy when it comes to action scenes. every generation it feels like I get 3-4 "he didn't X, he Y'd" to describe a character doing something
>>544612238Humanoid enough to appeal to base sexual instincts, with as much or little human baggage, as much or little human thinking and instincts, and as familiar or exotic of anatomical features that you want
>>544612238>comfiestwell they are literally covered in fluff
>>544613952It isn't a slop, it's a literatry device.
https://www.wired.com/story/chatgpt-psychosis-and-self-harm-update/
>>544592339Character Reference is a preview version of a feature that will be a part of Director Mode, which they're still working on. They presumably prioritised putting CR out first as a separate thing because they were getting annoyed with constant requests for "can you add Gacha Waifu #2341 to imagegen".
>>544620995It is pretty weird to witness this live, but in a different way. There's this one faggot from the cabalcord who's been nonstop bitching about how GPT5 was once the best, and then when it uodated it went to shit, and now he buck broke himself into refusing to use any other LLMs. I keep telling retards to quit eating the lotus, so I've got no sympathy for him. He can choose to have fun and enjoy himself on any of the non-Altman LLMs he has access to, he's just obsessed with dooming at the moment. I pray he gets over himself soon. Because by God, it's annoying to witness his constant breakdowns.He needs to get a grip, accept his loss, and move on with his life. There's plenty of other LLMs that are just as good, and, guess what, unlike Altman's shit, it won't be rugpulled from you. Learn from his mistake and stay away from models that aren't open source.
>>544622261It's a lesson I learned secondhand here with the summer dragon and the davinci chase
Help, a pair of mesugaki broke into my house!
>>544613952instruct the model to focus on ehat things are rather than what they aren't. also good to throw a line in there to discourage excessive simileslop. won't negate it completely but it will help.
>This place is so shitty that it's the shit that even shits on all other shits.Sick burn.
>>544625996That's a good value for like $70
>>544620995Does it count if I'm self-inserting as a character who becomes collateral damage in a firefight, and comes back as a ghost?
>544642796>page 10 bumpWhy don't you stop asking irrelevant questions and let this useless thread die?
Where the FUCK is Oakhaven and why won't the machine shut the fuck up about it
>>544643519You got those Scooby-Doo vectors, I guess. Shoutouts to the Wikipedia article for Oakhaven, Wisconsin, too.>Oakhaven is a town in Hempstead County, Arkansas, United States. The population was 63 at the 2010 census.
>>544643310The only thing that's useless here is you. Quit posting in these threads if you hate them so much.
it's both a question and an answer
>>544625996How good is the machine at zoomer slang?
what would one call this writing style?
>>544647386NTA but I think it does it pretty well.
>>544643519Where they make all the ozone.
>>544649817Gonzo
>>544614143>with as much or little human baggageI think this has a lot to do with it, at least for me. By being more fantastical I can strip away some of the complexities of human emotion/interaction. And you can throw out the standard human cultural norms/expectations, so it becomes easier to indulge in whatever fetish you want. It kinda feels "safer", in a weird way.>>544649817Yeah this has big Fear and Loathing vibes
I went from NAI's default prompt + Literary Flourish to trying out Sage's latest setup and prompt and yeah, GLM 4.6 now writes noticeably better.I think that's the first positive thing I said about him in the whole 3 years I've posted here.
>>544663141Could you potentially post his setup here, please?
>>544663345It was posted in the last thread. Here: >>544473409
>>544663092>And you can throw out the standard human cultural norms/expectations, so it becomes easier to indulge in whatever fetish you want.basedI do this with public nudity
>>544663640Oops, didn't see that. Thanks
>>544664127In some cultures, it remains normal to go barechested. Others have penis gourds, so practically naked. Don't equate modern Western sensibilities as being standard for humankind in general. Such values are actually quite young for species.
>>544664658It's quite dependent on the climate of the cultureThe penis gourd would've gotten you killed in northern Europe
>>544663141Personally, my copy of his still has some minute edits, especially for the syntax. It feels better that way.
>>544663141>>544663640>saving this as "sage.scenario" when I spend a lot of time working with a program called SageHopefully I don't mix this up and send my advisor a bunch of smut
Brothers, show me your guilty pleasures. Character Reference is king.Here are some of mine.https://files.catbox.moe/irq5f2.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/imthre.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/1e0nx1.png
>>544614143Agreed. It's easier to apply strange cultural quirks and behaviors to non-humans. Hell, basic animal motifs are already used for humans, here it's just text instead of subtext. It's monsterfucking but all the participants are monsters.
>>544643310He just saved you from killing yourself and that's how you thank him?
>>544663141>I can only use NAI-branded system prompts with this Chinese modelYou're literally a slave.
>>544678861What are you smoking that you somehow got that from his reply? Must be some fancy drug lord shit.
>>544678962It is telling that the rest of the world doesn't give a shit about NAI nor their botnet manager's system prompts. You're a slave.
>>544679317How many hours have you wasted on this?
>>544679573Don't ask that, it'll trigger a panic attack in him.
Imagine slamming this Russian's fat fuck head into his monitor. All he'd be thinking is "how did he find me? I am in Russia, the safest country in the world" as a drone explodes in the distance.
>>544678962>What are you smokingcock
>>544681234a classic
It is freaky as hell when I see my real name generated randomly.
>>544684760hi kevin
>>544686026I've actually never had it gen Kevin before.
>>544684760This is one of the few times that I'm glad that my parents named me after a My Little Pony character.
https://files.catbox.moe/m1kqaj.pngYou already know whats gonna happen...
>>544686450I think it even associates certain names with certain archetypes, too.
>>544625996If you're using the prompt as it is available, GLM is doing a terrible job at keeping up with the level of slang abuse that the author intended.
Hello frens, haven't checked in in a while. Is aetherroom cancelled? How is ai roguelite? I currently use ai for dungeons & dragons style adventures where dice rolls determine my outcomes, do you have any tips on how to improve that experience?
Why all "hello anons I haven't checked in a while" are frogposters? It really makes you think
>>544689010Because frogs are fun you schizo
I remember one time someone doing an AVGN review of some manga smut or it was possibly their own story.Can someone do that again?
>>544684760>t. Kaelen
I've been thinking lately. I still fondly remember the first time I fucked Elara and her daughter Seraphina, the first time I met Old Man Hemlock in Oakhaven etc. It was a bit weird later to see these things crop up again in other stories and to even see them in strangers' logs. I edit them out nowadays, but I'm sure Sarah and Chloe are just as generic.
>>544684760It's correctly guessed my age a few times. I guess my interests and setting choices betray what generation I come from.
>>544687067Fuck it, your getting it anywayshttps://files.catbox.moe/m1kqaj.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/y3s7q4.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/dkybck.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/omcruc.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/5hnk2b.png
>>544694879huh huh robot chicken
is novelai shitting itself right now?
>>544676428I'm not showing you shit (xd) but I'll usually go on a spree where I mass gen a bunch of popular characters pissing and shitting while squatting, save them all, and then delete them in shame during post nut clarity
>>544696418They were apparently testing some things with GLM, but the test failed and they're reverting.
>>544688698>is aetherroom cancelledAlmost certainly>How is ai roguelite?It's fun, if you plan on using NAI I'd wait until they update the game for GLM support.>do you have any tips on how to improve that experienceIf that's all you want, AI rougelite is okay right out the box. Check the steam workshop for mods for the whatever model you are using and they might make it better.
>>544696418Probably Cloudflare again. 5k token input with 320 token output takes me 40 seconds to complete. 3x slower than yesterday and several timeouts in my 30 minutes of use.
>>544688698Dunno about Aetherrroom. AI Roguelite is great fun, and it only gets better and better. The most recent change has been changing combat to an encounter system that allows for a lot more outcomes for success and failures as well as what triggers them. For instance, arguments, work like peacekeeping, or even sehsual gontent.>I currently use ai for dungeons & dragons style adventures where dice rolls determine my outcomesYou pretty much get that experience from AI Roguelite for what it's worth. I've heard there are things for this in Silly Tavern as well, but I don't know much about it or have any links.
>>544696418Tbqf, I think at this point, you are better off going for something like Nanogpt, grabbing their 8bucks a month deal, and using direct API access through sillytavern and getting access to GLM 4.6 and a whole bunch of other models, with whatever context size/plugins you want, if you don't care about the imagegen side of novelai.
>>544699065Being able to generate high quality anime slop whenever is pretty worth it to me desu
>>544699065They don't have NAI UI. Fuck off.
>>544699171True, but I moved to comfyui years ago, and just use that with sillytavern to gen my images. Tho nanogpt does give free access to qwen image gen. I used to love novelai, but I fucking hate the context size limits, 200k context size is pretty neat to have.>>544699195NAI UI is the only good thing they still have that is unmatched by anyone else.
>>544699171Three for free!
>>544699541Use case for more than 28k context?
>>544700037Very long consistent rp? I mean GLM 4.6 has a upper limit of 200k token context. If all you care about is loading up a char and wanking to about a max of 30 replies sure. Not much reason to go anywhere near the limits of Novelai, But if you do like huge world books, and storytelling type of rp, where you'll be like going for 1000 replies or more, the context size is a must. It's why I went from NovelAI to local hosting at the start, because my 4080 would allow me a larger context size then novelai at that point provided, and now I do API's instead because my GPU wasn't cutting it anymore, since it would never be able to fit a 300B Param model.
>>544700037I get a lot more mileage out of it in story mode but it goes by pretty fast in adventure mode for some reason
>>544700543>>544700037Also do add further, idk, personal thing too I guess? I like my replies long, especially when it's a adventure type of scenario, so like 1000tokens each reply with the AI using RichHTML to draw maps, vendor screens, etc, and I really felt the limit on that on novelAI even without all the html/css stuff back then. Not telling you to ditch NovelAI, I just think there are better options nowadays, especially since they ditched their own modeltraining now, it was the one thing I loved the most about them and that were their models, but they quit doing that, so now they are competing with any API that can provide GLM 4.6, and there are just other sites that are better value. But if you like novelAI, you like novelAI, don't let me tell you what to get.
>>544700543>>544701871>rpChatshit belongs in >>>/aicg/, lost reddior. NAI knows its use case better than you.They also training their model right now. You are a fucking liar. Do you want another hint that you're not welcome here?>>544700825Every model performance go to shit after 28k. The devs choose this optimal size for a reason.
>>544702492kys sage
As a long time locust, I think NAI right now has never been more justified as a purchase on the textgen side since GLM 4.6 is very much one of the best writing models, but I also know that this state of affairs will probably change before the end of the year by the time GLM-5 (which will probably have a larger amount of parameters preventing NAI from hosting), Deepseek v4, or whatever other big releases come out. Which is why I got a sub now and not wait for their finetune.
>>544702492
>>544702492First faggot, no they are not training their own model, they are creating a finetune as their devs states, which is like if you were to fucking train a lora for Imagegen, it won't be anywhere near what they could have done if they generated their own models and they simply won't given how long the last one took, and the costs associated with it. How about you fucking grow a brain cell and get your own story right. >Every model performance go to shit after 28k. The devs choose this optimal size for a reason.No it doesn't you cope baby, this was a limitation on earlier models but it's been years, even when novelai had their magnum opus of their own trained models, finetunes of mistral existed for self hosting that could out of the box handle context token sizes up to 84k and pass the needle in a haystack test and be able to recall exactly when the needle was dropped in it's context pool. You are genuinely full of shit, the best model they provide isn't even theirs, and they aren't even giving it to you at the max context, why? Because they literally can't afford to, even after years of bitching when they finally decided to increase the context size, it's only just now and not even additional context, it's just 28,672 tokens with a 8192 token roll over, because giving you actually more is jsut something they can't afford to.
>>544703838cute pic
>>544703838First, Russia won't win. You lost.Second, they literally put more resource to tune GLM than what they did to train their models. It won't be GLM or its finetune anymore since nobody cares enough or have enough computers to train at the scale NAI is doing. It'll be their own model.Three, needle in a haystack is a meme benchmarkmaxxx that implies ZERO real use. Four, Context size is nearly limitless now thanks to Deepseek OCR paper. NAI will implement it in due time.Fifth, cute pic.
have they mentioned whether we'll get an imagegen update this year? it's been a while
>>544704825It’s honestly kind of funny how low effort it is. Someone already pointed out the repetitive Pepe shit which has the same mobile random numbers image name. And like an hour and change latter when people are talking about the site having issues he bring up something unrelated to the issue. I guess we get a vaguely new gimmick today.
>>544704825First, Not russian.Second, They put more resources in it, because their last self trained model was 70b params. GLM is 357B, creating a finetune of GLM thus requires more resources, because it needs to fit the 357B entire to create the finetune.Third, needle in the haystack is a valid benchmark in our use cases you know adventures. rp's whatever, because you want it to be able to recall shit, or be able to remember writing style as you fill the context. Having to reset at 32k context, means losing writing style, means losing anything you cant fit in a summery. Anything that costs NovelAI more VRAM when you are doing shit is a massive loss to them, because they host all of their models on their own GPU's. This is why Context has always been limited, because they are paying directly for those servers to run their models, even the GLM model now, which is free for anyone to download, is ran on their own servers, meaning they are eating those costs directly and giving someone 80k context, or 100k, or whatever, just isn't a cost they are willing to spent given how much vram each user will use when pushing responses with huge context sizes.
>whine has been at this as early as the early days of coomegedon in retrospect >April 28, 2021, to October 30, 2025, is approximately 4 years, 6 months, and 2 days. This is equivalent to about 1,827 days, or roughly 1,827 days, 5 hours, and 50 minutes>The Great Wars total duration was 4 years, 3 months, and 14 days Whine has been at this longer then it took the First World War to end. Two more years and he will have the second beat in length. GRIMGRIM
>>544706882Jesus Christ
>>544706882ggrim
>>544707139Timeline is probably off by a few weeks to a month or two, but I know for a fact we had a very vocal dipshit who is sited stand fags where the real issue with the thread at the time and as soon as that guy fucked off we suddenly got Holo AI‘s biggest shill until that imploded.He’s been at this since at least May/June 2021
This is 4channel dot gov sweaty, it's site culture to be contrarian and edgy because I physically cannot function without a layer of bitterness and irony to hide myself behind btw, you could present me with a flawless, perfect in every way product and I would still have to shit on it because that is who I am, I sour everything I touch. It is my noble mission to prevent people from shrouding themselves in the illusion of happiness—I know that life is misery, I spare them the pain of having their expectations ruthlessly crushed by periodically bringing them down to my level, where all of us will inevitably end up anyway, always, without fail—o algo XD
>>544707757You're pretty close, because last year I did a similar deep dive and came to a similar conclusionWild, isn't it?
>>544709110I’m honestly curious if he was around pre coomegedon, but far less noticeable because he had less to step himself to. Worst case scenario he is a hanger on from that one specialized in brigading reddit that was the only place to side with Mormon.
I'm almost halfway through the 4430 pages of character cards.
Okay guys, yeah whine is annoying and cringe, but please take your meds. Not every shitposter in here is him.
Anyone actually fucked around with novelAI's api? I was thinking of making a script to send requests to it and get back some text I could output to my terminal window.
>>544710631Anything good recently?
>>544710656What are we supposed to talk about if not the same rehashed thread drama?
>>544707757I remember the standfag/anti-standfag drama, lol. Good time.
>>544710802I haven't tried many of them out yet but these looked promising.https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/Anonymous/character/very-curious-robot-ce6892b2e387https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/nyaime/meunster/character/Kobold%2520farm+845https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/kamkam001/character/centipede-d22737efhttps://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/AdventureTales/character/the-molest-license-00a8e68fa4abhttps://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/norquinal/character/kamek-peach-0d5c5ffa
>>544710792I haven't personally, but other project like silly tavern and ai rougelite have.NAI docs exist if you want to look through those.https://api.novelai.net/docs#/Silly Tavern is open source.https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavernIf you know what you're doing, you can probably vibe code this desu
>>544711360>I ran a chat with the "Aria - Elven Knight" card, and added this centipede as an enemy in the dungeon for her to face. Aria put up a good fight, but ended up birthing it's offspring regardless. 10/10, would hire to guard my dungeon again.>I erased this mfer along with his entire species.The duality of man
>>544711614I always check the reviews because they can be funny sometimes.
>>544711756I'll have to look through the archive myself, just to have a giggle
>>544715539It's been a fun process, I hope somebody carries the torch once the site closes.
>>544711360https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/Celticfear/character/ash-f841a73a9fff>Ever wanted to get scammed by a slaver and end up with a femboy kobold? well today is your lucky day.
>>544720069Most of these cards are a lot less complex than I thought. I might convert some of my old prompts to cards just for fun.
>>544590718casual omnipotence / wish for anything
>>544590718Filling innocent and sweet characters with the mounting urge to rape (You) until they can't take it anymore no matter how much they try to fight it
kekhttps://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/bare_rule_4536/character/a-mans-intestines-a-male-humans-intestines-guts-bowels-entrails-5344479397a4
>>544729241>*you just got done with working out and you decided to have some protein shakes.* “gurgle…pfft..” *your pink manly digestive organs would make loud gurgling noises as it struggles to digest your protein. You’re very lactose intolerant too. Lots of dairy in that protein shake..* “gurgle..pfft…” *your intestines release a nasty gassy fart.*
>>544730518The review was funny too.>I'm not gonna assume you have psychological problems or tel you to end your life or anything like that. I just simply want to ask you: Why?
>>544730597Stuff like that is inevitable when the power to do anything is in the hands of a super special person.
>>544731190It's fascinating sometimes. Like a window into people's minds.https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/Anonymous/character/dozmos-2fe317ad5fe5
>>544731550>thought this was some obscure kaiju I didn't know about>nope, "dozmos" just leads to a reddit account and a few other benign thingswew
>>544731550>The organism of Dozmos makes use of internal slaves, his body may use a consumed soul to produce an internal slave, a minimalistic version of a live creature specifically dedicated to the certain bodily processes of Dozmos. There are the slaves of the maw, the intestinal slaves, the slaves of the stomach and so on. Slaves are created by the so-called glands of life inside the body of Dozmos, entire lives of the internal slaves are dependent on the will of Dozmos. Also the body of Dozmos creates his sub-organisms, they are controlled directly by his consciousness, so each sub-organism can speak on behalf of Dozmos, they are all one personality. Those sub-organisms look like big cargo vehicles, but made entirely out of living tissue, with eyes, mouths, bodily organs and other attributes of living creatures. There are such sub-organisms as living trucks that have spinning wheels and an organic internal combustion engine, there are living trains whose organs are distributed across several of their organic cars. The living trains easily move without rails, the trucks are agile and movable like big predators. There are other living vehicle sub-organisms like ships. Sub-organisms are used to capture, process and rule the internal slaves. Sub-organisms move through the body of Dozmos using a huge network of tunnels. Sub-organisms may go outside the body of Dozmos to capture slaves. Inside the body of Dozmos, there are entire organic cities made for processing and storing the slaves. Some slaves are forced into hard labor, some other are forced into the intellectual labor in order to improve the efficiency of the bodily processes of Dozmos. Internal slaves can be recycled and reborn from the glands of life, internal slaves are often eaten by the sub-organisms.the fuck did I just read?
>>544736579In a word: autism
>>544687602I didn't port over that lorebook.
>>544697001Fuck off, schizo. AetherRoom hasn't been cancelled.>>544703838Buddy, you're arguing with another one of the Russian schizo's masks. He likes to swap between shitting on NAI and being its biggest fanboy, pretending like it's perfect.
>>544737648>being its biggest fanboy, pretending like it's perfect.Like what you're doing?
That said, the Doroposter's don't really make sense, either. I like NAI. I trust their fine-tune will be of higher quality than anything offered via NanoGPT. I also like their imagegen. Likewise, I trust their privacy policy. I have no reason to switch over to some new service just because of some meaningless complaints people here make. 28K is already more than twice what I expected from them. 4096 characters is already a pretty hefty response. I typically only go for a fourth, sometimes half, of that.Seems absurd to argue 28-36K context isn't decent. ComfyUI is already pretty shit; SillyTavern is even worse. Why would I subject myself to a worse UI experience?>>544738437By all means, elaborate how you think I'm being a fanboy.
>>544706882He'll be on his deathbed, ranting about /aids/ and some random guy from the south to some poor nurse, right before his heart gives out.
>>544706882all because of one service of our time.
We should get IDs enabled explicitly for containing the nigger desu.
Man, I really don't get the "AetherRoom hasn't been cancelled" insistence. Sure, it's not cancelled, they haven't gotten on stage and proclaimed "yes, AetherRoom is 100% dead, bereft of life, it is an ex-product" but nobody cancels anything in the early stages anymore, they just stop talking about it. Tab was the project lead, he left the company on account of burnout (wonder what project might have caused that). The last devlog was in December 2024, and it too was written by Tab. The likely answer is that with him as the primary driver of the project leaving, the company is no longer investing resources into the project and it has been put on a permanent backburner with no guarantee of it ever coming off there.And to be quite frank I'd be very disappointed if they did invest resources and had fuck all to show for it. NAI right now is awash with things to work on. Both V5 and Director Mode on the imagegen side, two major projects. The GLM finetune and UI enhancements on the textgen side to better handle an instruct model (still really need a proper way to handle system prompt storage and usage across stories, that's still pretty much unacceptable in its current stage), and that's not even talking about further features like Hypebot, TTS and such that haven't been touched in ages and could use some TLC real bad.If someone were to tell me that all this time there have been people working on AetherRoom for an entire god damn year and they have literally nothing to show for it despite it being an alpha, I would genuinely be disappointed in their priorities.
>>544740959you could be right
>>544741376Thanks, wanna make out?
>>544740959Oh, no. The fanboys won't like this. Enjoy your downvotes!
>>544740959It hasn't been cancelled. They're shifting the model it uses to GLM. Why do you think they're making DM? It's so that people's character bot images match more, with less effort, than DT. You simply lack an understanding that development happens in burst. Fact: the same people who think AeR is dead are a near perfect circle, of those who also tried their hardest to argue textgen was dead. Ght was never the lead. He was just a spokesperson.
>>544740959Also, lol. They have stated V5 isn't for a long, long while. Which means that, despite your claims, it's not being worked on at the moment. Why don't you wait for the fine-tune of GLM to arrive before making any more baseless assertions? You have no clue what you're talking about.
Here's another fact, which you imbeciles refuse to accept. The channel is still open. The CEO still has it in his byline. Don't bother posting if all you're going to do is shit up the thread. You have no proof that it's been cancelled, so quit arguing that is has. Nothing you say will change my mind. Give up, shut the fuck up, and find better things to do with your life.
>>544740959angryfag is the only consistent 'voice' that says that, and he's a bad-faith trolling persona with as much internal consistency as a CF or a whinefag
This is NAI thread btw. Your common sense doesn't work here, only loyalty to the company matters.
>>544742891SouthernAnon also gets irate at people who doom about AeR, if you bother to use the Discord.
>>544743001i don't, but i guess that's interesting to know
>>544742909Not even like that makes sense. My opinion is "NAI isn't investing resources into AR because there are many more places where they would be better used, and they are completely right to do so because the chatbot space is completely overcrowded and currently under way too much scrutiny so they're much better off sticking to standard textgen and imagegen" and my loyalty to the Turk is firm.
>>544743268The rational argument would be that they placed it on the backburner while other things are cooking. That makes sense. It's irrational to pivot to arguing that it's been cancelled. A more sensible explanation exists; there's no point in dooming.
Funnily enough, base GLM can simulate a decent chatbot experience as is, likely better than the Erato tune (still inferior to Chub's Deepseek). Hypothetically, they could fine-tune it with whatever they used for AeR's previous iteration (it'd be a waste of money). Obviously, they're prioritizing fine-tuning it for NAI, as people who use that service alone are understandably getting antsy about an update (it's overpriced and inferior to Openrouter). Which is why they're hosting it raw, because fine-tuning takes time (and because they won't be able to fix the slop anyway).While they wait for the model to finish cooking, they can wrap up Director Mode (already mogged by local).But they won't do that. Now sperg at me, angryfag. Give me your attention. I want to suck your mad sperm.
If a Discord channel existing (with no devs posting absolutely anything relating to the project for an entire year) and a fucking Discord bio are the firm proof that AR is totally still happening then this whole thing is just pointless. It costs them nothing to keep that. It could be 2035 and that channel and bio could still exist.At least for textgen in general there were those crumbs of "we haven't forgotten about you", there is literally nothing for AR. Where is any, really, fucking any sign of life at all, any actual active acknowledgement that isn't just them not removing something?
>>544744451Where is your proof that it's been cancelled? All you have is assumptions. The alpha application form is still open, by the way. Now drop it and quit dooming about it. You clearly don't give a shit about it anyway.
I will drop it when you let me suck your cock.
>>544744574Yes, the alpha application form on the AR website, which actually hasn't even been updated to link to the latest devlog, which was posted in December 2024, is very much helping your case here. They can't even be bothered to change a fucking link. Totally not just proof that nobody is working on anything related to that at all and not even bothering to give even the most vaguest of implications that something is happening.
>>544744869You have no proof that nobody is working on it. Why do you insist on spamming the thread with your bullshit instead of doing literally any else that would actually be productive? If it were cancelled, they'd say so.Tell me, why are you so desperate to get people to believe that it's been cancelled? Other people having hope for a product you don't care about does nothing to harm you.Might it be that you've got a vendetta against the company? It sure seems like it to me.
Also, lol. That is their latest link on their channel.https://www.youtube.com/@AetherRoomWhy do you lie about things that are so easily disproven? They never made a fourth devlog.
>>544745043>NAI devs>they'd say solol
>>544745196*They never made a fourth devlog video.
I've been gooning for 5 days straight4-5 hour sessions a dayThis can't be healthy
https://www.reddit.com/r/AetherRoom/And their subreddit is still open. What's your cope now?
>>544745248By your logic, they aren't hosting GLM. They're actually hosting some other random model and are merely saying it's GLM. But in reality, they're lying. Do you see how pathetically retarded your thought process is?>>544745362Fuck off. I don't want your "support", Russkie.
>>544745196>>544745270So yeah, you did realize your mistake. There was a fourth devlog, but it was never linked to the site even though it literally would've just been swapping a single link. Somehow nobody thought to do that for over a year. But they still care about the project guys! It's gonna be great when it releases, I dunno, 2035 I guess? Maybe?Hey remember Alpha Wave 3?>Alpha Wave 3 is still next, technically. No one knows when it’ll happen, but it’ll happen. Before the end of the year? Maybe. At this point if we happened to be ready this month, it’d probably make more sense for us to wait until sometime in January so we aren’t colliding with the holidays. I still want to maybe let more people in this wave than the last couple.Yeah that never happened either. They announced the other alpha waves when they happened but no announcement for 3 was ever made. But it's gonna happen, I mean, they haven't said it won't, so clearly it will!
>>544745574>Before the end of the yearThe year isn't ending yet, doomfag. Why don't you stop making your dad cry for now?
>>544745574You've still not presented any evidence it's been cancelled.What you fail to understand is that circumstances change. Why do you think they're hosting GLM? If AeR used an Erato base, no shit it didn't work out. Like I said, a rational argument would be that it got placed on the backburner. That makes sense, and there is definitive evidence to support that claim.But you don't want to argue from a standpoint of rationality.Instead, you're obsessed with arguing that AetherRoom is dead, for no other reason than to inundate the thread with pointless banter.Go outside and touch grass. It's not dead. Nothing you say will convince me. Give up and shut the fuck up already.
>>544745860Did GLM slop write this post?
And of course the doomer thinks GLM is slop. Because you just wanted an excuse to shitpost.
>>544745962angryfag wants you to forget that before GLM was hosted, he was adamant that Erato's base was perfect for tuning and you're an idiot for thinking otherwise, and before that, Kayra's baseand the fact that he's singlehandedly responsible for at least 50% of all occurrences of "chatshit" and "instructshit" in /aids/
>>544746171To give my two cents. I also believe that AetherRoom has not been cancelled. I guess that makes me a shitposter, too?
>>544745860If you honestly want to be this fucking insistent that "nobody is working on it, it has been placed on the backburner and there is no guarantee it will be picked up again any time soon" and "cancelled" are this meaningfully different, that it is such a critical difference that it turns one from "rational" to "hostile agent who obviously has an agenda against the company and the thread" and necessitates dragging this argument out ad nauseam, then yes, I suppose nothing will be able to convince you. I don't see that as something to be proud of.>>544746479Oh come the fuck on, don't do that. You're better than that.
>>544746479not unless you were to say shit like>Go outside and touch grass. It's not dead. Nothing you say will convince me. Give up and shut the fuck up already.shit your britches when anyone expresses to the contrary, and generally be a blight on the general while believing 'positive vibes only' is a good excuse for being garbageangryfag is a troll because of the shitposting he does, not the opinions he holds
I'm a troon, actually.
>>544746642>>544746648You already know he won’t accept any argument you present him, so why waste time arguing with him? Isn’t what you’re doing just as disruptive?
>>544746929personally no, i don't think angryfag shouting down every discussion he doesn't like before it begins for years is as disruptive as talking about that now, especially given there's nothing else going on to be disrupted by doing thatunless you're literally about to talk about something?
Happy Halloween /aids/
>>544747213I just feel like it’s counterproductive to argue with a brick wall, and that it creates an environment where people are less likely to discuss things. When they get more interaction than contributions do, that kind of puts a sour taste in one’s mouth, don’t you think?
>>544747661It's certainly fucking spooky right now.
So did anyone ever find out what was inside the old chest in the cellar?
I can an error every time I try to post a NAI screenshot ITT
>>544747694What is also counterproductive is deciding early on that whoever you're talking to cannot be persuaded and is just faking, which creates an environment where potential discussions are merely seen as obvious trolls and specific opinions are simply declared as something no reasonable person could ever believe and therefore should never even be entertained.
>>544748349I can't post pictures on veepee either, is 4chan being retarded again?
>>544747694you're confusing me with the other poster he's actually responding to, but if we're going to talk bout shoulda, you have to do bothclaudefag is a joke in every other thread because they both make fun of him every time he shows up and talk about other stuffif nobody acknowledges the retard is a retard then that gives off the impression the retard is not only accepted but emblematicwhich creates this environment right now, where people are less likely to discuss things
>>544748497NTA but I don't think >>544742309 >>544742398 and >>544742398 encourages a potential discussion.
>>544748548No. Everyone I don't like must be the same person.
>>544748548People are less likely to discuss things specifically because arguments are constant nowadays.Instead of trying to convince people that this or that must be true, just let them believe what they want to believe, and move on the moment things become fruitless, instead of trying to persaude the unpersuadable.
>>544738479How am I not making sense tho? Their fine-tune hasn't been out yet for 4.6, so the glm you've been running thus far has just been the base model. We also don't know what quant they are running. Ideally Q8, however they don't state. The privacy policy is not a NovelAI exclusive feature either, many providers provide the same privacy protection. Also, a context size complaint is not meaningless, if you say 36K is decent, then you haven't tried anything above that, it's genuinely a case of, once you've experienced you wont go back. 36k, is genuinely archaic for the price they are asking for at that tier.As I stated before, if you like NovelAI, you like it's convenience, sure stick with it, were they to let me import any outside API into their UI, I would still be using NovelAI just for that as I love their UI. But to say NovelAI in it's current offering is "fine" is absurd. Also NanoGPT offers more than GLM, they are access providers, so they provide you with whatever you want, Deepseek, GLM, Claude bunch of Finetunes that people requested, And none of that is a NanoGPT exclusive thing either, you can choose whatever API provider you want.
>>544748665 (me)Third quote was meant to be >>544742674
>>544748789It's based because it's the only company doing the finetune. Go and suck and fuck Nanaogpt's nano dick somewhere else.
>>544748789Kind of weird how you barge back into the thread the moment the AeR sperging ends.Here's the thing, buddy. The context argument doesn't really matter to me. I've used bigger models. I don't agree that you can't go back from them, because I never found it that amazing to begin with. NovelAI is fine, and you're free to believe that it's not fine. But don't act like your opinion is the only one that matters.
>>544749129There are like 7 other individuals creating finetunes on glm right now, also retard, I stated you can use any access provider, and it be a better deal, doesn't matter if it's nanogpt, openrouter, or whatever the fuck. My loyalty is with who provides a better deal, and I'd jump ship the moment something provide both better pricing and a better service>>544749130I just woke up, not everything is some psy-op conspiracy bullshit mate, also>But don't act like your opinion is the only one that matters.Lmao, read the replies to any of the shit I posted it's people sperging and trying to say "36k is enough you don't need more, etc, it doesn't work, it's actually worse, also novelai knows what they are doing, it's better that way"If anything they are trying to enforce their opinion as the only thing that matters, I am merely fucking trying defend my position. But yeah, should have known this was the Dedicated NovelAI thread, before entering it.
>>544749863You assumed I didn't have prior experience with models that offered more context than that, and claimed that if I did, I would obviously support your argument. The only problem here is, I do have prior experience, and I don't support your argument. People can go through the same circumstances and arrive at a different opinion.I don't care for pay-or-use services, granted this one does have a sub separate from that. I don't care for services which heavily integrate cryptocurrency into their website. I don't care to make an account for a website, to then make an API for use in an external app I have to download and maintain. I don't care to sift through eighteen pages of models to find one which suits me.Given all of the above, and more, accept that people are more than free to not express and interest in NanoGPT. Your position didn't need defending to begin with. The people who were arguing with you are known trolls that frequent the thread. You'd know that if you bothered to participate in, and contribute to, the thread, instead of treating it as though it's nothing but shills everywhere. You're not making a very good case for yourself with that kind of attitude.
>>544749863Those are all 1 guy. Don't mind them. No actual person here is a vehement defender of NAI.
>>544750754You came to the NAI thread, shitted on it, and now you're bitching. Why don't you go back?
/aids/ isn't a "NAI" thread, samefag. Quit arguing with yourself and genuinely get a life. Nobody here is amused by your antics.
>>544750738>You'd know that if you bothered to participate in, and contribute to, the thread, instead of treating it as though it's nothing but shills everywhereYou seen the posts in here right, it's not difficult to assume that. And the "Oh you should have known, it's this weird troll from 3 years ago" Like yeah, how am I supposed to know that? I was active in these threads when we were still using AIDungeon, and novelAI wasn't even on the horizon yet, and then left and hadn't came back until yesterday.Also I don't think it needed explaining, but as I have said numerous times, If you like NovelAI, you like NovelAI, The end. If it is good for your use cases, you don't need more context, you don't want to bother with the hassle running anything local, even if it's just the UI, then that's fine. I have said that a thousand times, the argument I have been having is with the bad faith replies that I have gotten. Also, yeah it was wrong for me to assume your experience with higher context. Again, it depends on your use case. I find my going past the context limit of what novelAI provides all the time, it's just a thing that depends on what you use AI for.
What are you working on?
>>544751540This isn't the first time you've posted in these threads about NanoGPT, dude.
>>544751754your mom
Like, take a chill pill and realize these replies right here:>>544699195>>544700037>>544702492Weren't done in good faith. You shouldn't have responded to them to begin with. Learn from your mistake and try not to repeat it.
Jannies for the love of God, add IDs to /vg/
>>544753127My brother in christ, literally the first time. There is literally zero value, or gain for me to lie to you and I have no idea why you'd assume I would. I haven't been in AIDS for 3+ years, saw people still using novelAI, and just wanted to talk about API usage, because I my self made the recent switch from Localhosted models to API.
>>544753832>>540550115>>40549413
>>544753832If you want to talk about local, /g/ threads are more suit for you.
In any case, most people here who use APIs get them through OpenRouter.
>>544753832For the record, the replies you receive which are definitely done in bad faith are posted by the same person who posted this:>A thread with no identity doesn't deserve to exist. That's what happens when the last thing that differentiates this thread from the others disappears. GLM 4.5 can already be talked in /lmg/, /g/aicg, /vg/aicg, /chag/, /vpcai/, /wAIfu/, /2huAI/... What does /aids/ add? NovelAI's special prompt? You can mark today as the day /aids/ died.He is the same person who posted his >>544753952and this>>544643310and this>>544678861He doesn't use LLMs. The only thing he cares about is derailing conversations, insulting everyone, and in general, being a spiteful prick. Learn to recognize him, and don't give him attention. The only reason I'm replying to him is to show you what not to respond to going forward. Ignore him, and your time here will be a much smoother experience.
>>544754510>>A thread with no identityThe text you quote is not wrong desu.
>>544754510How does that person have so much free time.
>>544754795Mental illness, subsidies, and pity from his family, or whoever makes him tendies.
I rather like whatever model Google is running as their AI search desu. I always hated using conversational searches on the classic Google engine since I knew short snippets of SEO got me what I wanted fast but I like talking to the bot now. Is it because I am so AI-pilled?
>>544755223Personally, I hate how companies are trying to integrate LLMs into their products.
>>544755307True, I love it when I'm the one seeking it, but getting it shoved down my throat when in reality I don't want to interact with it outside of interactive story telling is pissing me off.
>>544694879This is so cursed. I love it. Here is your late (You), now get out.
>>544711360I am severely retarded, can I plug any of these into novelai? I specifically searched Novelai in the search bar, downloaded a bunch of ponyshit, and none of it will work
>>544763568Those cards I believe are made for using SillyTavern, a chat interface, with NAI's API. So it's a different usage case than just using NAI with its UI straight up.
>>544755529NTA, but it’s honestly kind of funny how often the search results are wrong or at least outdated.I was looking for weapon options on one of my 40K units that is available in two different systems and has been available for two editions. It gave me the points cost of early 10th edition 40K A list of 2nd edition heresy complaints about the unit Left out half the weapon choices And gave me a blurb about now the shitty one use rocket weapon it has could potentially sway a game (those rockets almost never do anything on any of the vehicles that get them)
>hey guys Old Fag who hasn’t used the thread in years here.>yep my first post in the thread was a unrelated NAI bad reply to something.>maybe it was also the frog post since it’s the same file format.>I remember AID I just happened to leave the thread almost as soon as coomegedon was over and never checked back in until today.>yep randomly replying to something unrelated to what I wanted to say was the first thing I wanted to do after not being in their place for three years >I’ve been gone the entirety of whinefag so I don’t know what you’re talking about. I hate this rerun
>>544769573Who are you quoting?
>>544753818I’m retrospect the lack of IDs on most boards is really really weird. >if it is a hobby/interest board most people would recognize each others work >if it is media board you probably want to keep track of who you are discussing something with The porn and functionally porn boards are probably the only ones that shouldn’t have them.
>>544753818At this point, I want them mostly site wide.
>>544770615I am still confused we don’t have a AI board.A few years ago it would have been a weird little specialized board. Now AI is normie shit to have at least a flawed understanding of.
>>544769573>Same file format.You know every image you save from this site gets replaced with a unixtimestamp right? Are you some newfag or something? Lurk moar.
We spooky now.>now terrified what the eventual april fools disruptive shit will be
>>544769573It really is all so tiresome.
Someone a few days ago mentioned using their ai to summarize their story when it gets longer than 28k tokens. How are you doing that? Just a custom prompt that says "summarize this"? I've been experimenting with the system prompt in a test story and it never seems to do anything other than try and continue the story.
>>544775626No idea how the anon did it, but I've noticed some stuff about this, I think. Are you using Sage's pre-made prompt or anything similar?Using all default settings, no Sage template, no ATTG, just using instruct worked fine. But with Sage I had to add an extra bitTry something like.{Summarize the story so farSummary:
>>544769573A few weeks ago I posted a comment with a pepe in here and some schizo had a meltdown that I was surely his personal enemy or whatever. Was that (you)?
>>544777915Thanks anon, I was over complicating it. That worked perfectly.
>>>/v/724644701>>>/v/724644701>>>/v/724644701Migrate.
>>544780831
migrate deez nuts in yo mouf
Sudowrite won.
deez nutz won
>>544782210Was curious what sudo has actually been up to. Apparently absolutely nothing.Same years old testimonials, but now it advertises as the first AI for fiction writers whatever that means. And the pricing is still fucked and they apparently haven’t done anything since GPT4
>>544784687>30-Minute Personal Setup Session???
>>544784687>damage control
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/Andorus/character/a-very-horny-horde-of-sika-deer-04cade2481d8>If i ever need to write a presentation on deer for some reason, i know where to go
>>544784687>got me curious>check https://writeholo.com/>404
>>544785854The dev blog part of the site is still up, but ironically lot a random companies started using holo as a name so looking up holowrite or hollow ai will find random shit
>>544786121I'm still waiting for EleutherAI to blow us away with their latest model trained on nothing but board game rulebooks and poop jokes.
>>544785081Head slammable.
>>544784881>Alright, what kind of stories do you want? I'll help you set up a prompt.>Sonic x FNaF vore inflation slow burns. With some tasteful comedy.I can see why he gave up.
>>544786975Don't forget the bio vehicles, organ slaves, and the glands of life.
>>544786439But bro, it has to be safe!
>>544786439This reminds me. Why is anlatan like the only ai company without an asshole for a logo?
Where's the anchor?
>>544787658If I had to take a guess everyone wants their logo to look like Open AI’s and if I was going to be cynical they hoped someone might mistake them for OAI or a partner of them
Anyone want to take guesses on what the next big AI craze will be? Feel like we are at the point of model, but bigger doesn’t actually amount to much. I’m guessing china finds a way to cobble together a model that can take in real time a full prompt and convert it to a pretty solid video version of itself. Probably straight up can non run on local hardware for a year and change and anywhere offering it is super unreliable, expensive as shit, and slow as fuck Because that is the monkeys paw world we live in
>>544788325It typically gets posted around 5 est. The dude who runs it has a job or something.
>>544793173New architecture that makes transformers obsolete.
>>544793173Smellgen.
>>544775626You can do a lot with those types of prompts. Just now, I copied an article genned elsewhere, stuck it under my story, and asked it to rewrite the article to better fit the theme of the story. I find it helpful for updating character profiles or generating lore.
>>544784687>that strikethroughsame vibe as>set $60 item to $90>always "on sale" to $60
wrote yet another masterpiece like it was nothingI feel fulfilled
>>544801024How big was the cock?
What's the weirdest thing you ever fucked in textgen?>inb4 ur mum lol
>the future of corporate LLMs
>>544801756Feel like the anatomy of these guys makes smoking a bit awkward for them.Feel like they would use cigarette holders or actually use smokeless tobacco like snuff tobacco
>>544805143
>>544805143>>544806056I had a similar idea to this only you're having sex with mascots while they try to sell you their products between moans.
>>544805143>>544806056NovelAI already does this with the data they harvest and sell.
>>544806908 (me)Also I'm trans in case you were wondering.
>>544806908You'd squeeze like a pig as I slam your head into your monitor.
>>544807989That's illegal where I live. As it should be.
>>544808314Must be dangerous for you.
>>544808408I suck a lot a cocks so it seems nobody notices.
I happen to think that it's stunning and maybe even a bit brave of claudefag to be so open about his sexual proclivities.
>>544589863Is everyone ready for Monster Month? Here’s the anchor~‼By the by, I hope everyone has a great Halloween, for those who celebrate it!
>>544811924Thanks comrade! Ya hear?
>>544805143>>544806056
>>544811924Well, here's mine: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/7774>Sometimes, people have life-changing events transpire while on vacation. But somehow, I imagine that when people say that, they don't exactly think of situations like mine, where I get lost while touring a smaller Egyptian grave site, find a secret passage, and somehow resurrect a mummy that has been buried here for thousands of years. Now my life is certainly different, that's for sure...Not quite directly in the spirit of the theme, but hey, I did Frankenstein's monster before, I did vampires before, let's just keep dipping into the Universal monsters and go with a mummy this time, just a bit different.Also, just to bring this up again, someone submitted early: >>543278471
>>544811924Remember my halloween town prompt...
>>544817024See the end of >>544815495
>>544817024See this one: >>544817192
He has already been made aware of your prompt. There is no need for any further childish behavior.
>>544817598Lighten up, pussyboy.
>>544815495>wordswordswordsFell asleep and didn't read
Imagine being averse to reading in a thread specifically about AI-generated stories. There's no point in you being here.
>>544820530Ever since the AI started doing all my writing for me my brain started turning off
>>544820652mecum
>>544823304Good name for a girl.
>>544589863- export URL variables to use with other OpenAI API-compatible services.- remove these features: - poetry part of novelai-muses - preset-roulette - secondary-preset - dynamic-module - novelai-creative-hack- adjust slop regex list; it's now the same for highlighting and for antislop feature.- `novelai-lorebooks-search' now can search in other lines of the lorebook file; use it with `C-u'.- no longer have a default context size for Open Router- internal refactor- 17243e79772d0573c952e119b98fe4b7c232a73ahttps://files.catbox.moe/micfce.el
>>544828689Cool
so ronery
ahm mistew wonewy
>>544830941Wanna make out?
>>544831565I got nobodyyyy
>>544831626no, I don't like making outwe can snuggle though
>>544828689Shill.
>>544833550You are a ger.
>>544834249Oh shit
>>544835223
>>544832729cute
>>544833550Russian with the punchable face.
>>544847667choir boys lmao