Gargoyle Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2025-update.87198/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Previous: >>544525470
TM2SKTM2SKTM2SK+2 for inhouse
The HIV rate in Russia is 1%.Your deadlock teammates are literal HIV infested homos
Wife thread :)
>midboss is so overwhelmingly strong that even after getting 4 kills with open patron and 50k lead pros choose to sit and farm and wait for it to respawnthis game is so ass man
>one more fucking month to deal with this dogshit metaWhat we do deadtards...
>>544603607I continue to play pocket...
Put Vyper and Paige in a room together and [CENSORED] [CENSORED] [CENSORED] [CENSORED] [CENSORED] [CENSORED] and Paige will leave crying
this update suck, no venator for halloween suck, where spooky base, this update suck
Alright, I've been here saying from time to time how some people are actually just carried by their own hero to a higher rank. This guy right here whom at first I thought was a griefer is a perfect example, it's not even about being a good or bad player, it's about being carried to a much higher rank than you actually deserve due to being so reliant on crutch heroes.
TM2SKTM2SKTM2SKTM2SK+1 for inhouse
>>544603607Phantom strike! Go go go! Let's see what this dick can do!
>check back after a month long break>k*vin is still braindead and metaback to vrchat I go...>>544603607>he thinks it's just gonna be one more month of k*vin until we're freelol.
>>544603810SCP-ass post
>>544604247dw bro they'll nerf his nades by 10 damage but compensate by buffing the scaling
every single match just feels like a forced win or forced loss.
another k*lvin game
>Aimbotting Wraith on my team>Gets ganked a few times>Starts typing in allchat>Goes AFK and just spends all game typing>Lose>Match rank: Emissary VWhy did it put me in Emissary V? I'm Oracle III...
Im not the best player in the world but my Mirage should not be buying Point Blank and Hunter's Aura.
Anyone got that catbox of the funny Lash voice mix?
>doorman lane partner>anytime I hook someone he either whiffs his cart, or he carts them back in the direction I hooked them from so it's a good fucking thing he whiffs his cart>misses all his shots>we lose>game 2>same doorman lane partner>this time he builds gun and continues to do nothing>still carts them to safety>enemy ivy likes to ult and fly at us at ground level>he NEVER pushes 4 on her>he rarely ever ults, only to seemingly grief me by fucking up my combosI hate this game
>>544603404>The HIV rate in Russia is 1%.dotard hands wrote this post
>>544605614hi Sir Gay
Darkest before the dawn, brehs.Trust in the plan.
>>544605614>>544605720Imagine explaining this interaction to a normal person
>>544606176two kids exchange a veiled insult back and forth going "nuh uh YOU'RE [X]"
>>544606176Nahh, I'm not gonna do that.
Official /DLG/ social media tier list 1.0 taking suggestions to update for later
>>544606878drifter's an ancient murder hobo he probably wouldn't even know what a computer is.
>>544606991None of them would really know what a computer is, retard.
>>544606878Paige is on Tumblr and Wattpad
>abandon two (2) games in the span of a week>get put in low priority matchmaking and banned from matchmaking for 48 hoursLmao, I'm actually done with this game now. Uninstalled. Maybe I'll come back when they release a game mode that doesn't hold you hostage for an hour.
>>544606878>elder vampire who doesn't participate in society whose only interest is murder>shit posting on a basket weaving forumbilly is chan poster distillate terrible post. not only for accuracy but for sheer quirky millennialness
>mirage/lash/calico/victor on enemy team>nobody buys spellbreakerSo THIS is the power of Oracle...
>>544607050half of them would probably live into the 21st so eventually they would.
>>544606878Wrong
>>544607104Billy uses Sharty
>>544607057maybe a younger paigepaige is an ao3 girly
>>544607223She plays Age of Empires?
>>544607183this is really funny
Just realized Mina is the name of a character in the original Dracula novel. She is the fiancee of the protagonist
>>544607223Grim
Paige is that one Asian chick I follow on YouTube that's been playing warcraft 3 nonstop for 15 years
>>544606878What boards are the 4chan tier people using?The Lash relentlessly shitposts on /fit/, obviouslyHaze is a jannyViscous probably frequents the Oragami board or some weird shit
>Calico was pocket's assassin but fucked upwhy didn't she just dash arctic blast scourge silence wave bomb?
>>544606878Lash is too egotistical to use an anon site. He's probably on Instagram I guessM&K would probably be a more likely chan pick
>>544607642Haze is a fed on /pol/ making slide threads
Just played with a guy who has 3k games in oracle. He was such a gorilla retard doing no damage I had to check out what brand of retard he is and it seems like a learning disability
>>544607659He went into the briefcase and then coated out
how do i cope with 12 losses and 4 wins in the past18 games
>>544607050>>544606991There's an occult computer in the hideout.
ability unlocks should just be extra AP and you should be able to unlock 3 abilities with your first 3 AP if you wantthe only thing that should restrict your build is the level floor for taking your ult
>>544607973>try to shitpost on 4Shrine>computer ghosts start calling me a faggotwat do
>>544606878Lash would use something like instagram and twitter to gain an amasse of followers, being anonymous doesn't fit well with his ego
>>544607973>still no Vyper Paige femslash on Archive of the Ancient OnesGonna have to write this shit myself, aren't I?
>>544608072>implying lash would be above shilling his own matches on /pw/
>>544607553how the fuck is mo and krill the SECOND most popular one what the fuck
>>544607642there was that one post listing every character.lash was an infamous namefag on /fit/
>>544608305you're rightthey should be first
wraith feels like shit
>>544607613I think I've watched her but don't remember her name
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWΟ different characters.
When will Valve start to hire fans to make the game? Worked out so well in their other games, so why not Deadlock?
>>544609412even if they did start to, furries aren't people so no worries that this would ever make it in
>>544609412This is kinda chomping Vinny's style aesthetically, but I'm sorta down for it if they have a playful rivalry
>>544609412
>>544607642Viscous frequents /c/
>>544609513Take a look at what gets added into tf2 these days, lil bro.
>>544609513we got a snakewoman in game right nowwerewolf is practically guaranteed either as a character or just a shiv redesign
>>544609534When did Vindicky become a maid?
>>544610034Oh it's a maid? I thought it was like a peasant
God I just pray it's not a male werewolf. Gay furries and knot faggots would actually overrun the community if they got pandered to this hardHaving it be a female werewolf would at least reduce this reality
>>544610135cookieyum
>>544610135Ravenous gangrel man is already represented by Drifter
>>544610135She would be the only canine in the game, therefore the futafaggots would flock to her like moths to a lamp. Similar to Soraka but for knots.
what am i supposed to do when my teammate just insists on feeding in early game? they fed so hard it's now nearly impossible to make a comebackam i just supposed to buy rescue beam and stop this guy from pushing every time he gets off the rail?
>>544610364Accept defeat with honor and grace
>>544610301Futafags go googoo gaga for equines not felines.Hence Soraka, Draenei, Lilia, etc
>>544610364hes making space by ensuring whatever play you make is down an opponent
>>544610450so just sit in our spawn and open the buy menu so i can pretend like i'm build crafting when in reality i'm just throwing so the game ends at 20 minutes instead of 50?
>Eido keeps getting stunned off air vents because he's too much of a movementfaggotlmao
>>544608524trve...
>>544610462Oops meant canines not felines
>20th century is packed full of the western cannon's great novelists we better get a cynical bitter old author character
>>544610591Maybe in Paige's VN
>>544610135I am already here (as is someone who I regularly roleplay with).
>>544610591We should get the ghost of HP Lovecraft
>>544610462That's because ladies with hooves are far more common than canine ladies. In league alone, equinefags are drowning in choice with 'raka, lilia, kindred. Knotfags just have naafiri, the biggest hero release flop in nu-league history.
>>544610776Oh god, the gay dog is here...
>leaguefaggots>wowfaggotsgo bridge
>>544610984Maybe, because I think people just love big fat horsecocks
>10k souls lead>Enough to win against anybody 90% of the time in 1v1I feel like this needed to be balanced.
how to fix deadlock:
>>544611451don't 1v1 the person with a 10k soul lead...?
>>544611464this but it's lyrans
>>544611558oh yeah, just do nothing and hide in base.Really good advice.
do heal boosts work on billy's melee HP gain?
>>544611734you have 5 teammates retard
>>544611464Calico like this too.
>>544611830>you have 5 teammates
>>544610135there is a were wolf MAN in the lobby before you queue up for a game by the starir case or above it likely will be a hero
when was the last time deadlock got a performance patch?
>>544612197You need a performance patch?I get a locked 240 (my monitor's refresh rate) with literally everything maxed and no FSR/DLSS...
After playing some games i got to the conclusion that i still much prefer gun doorman, even after the recent changes. Sure you deal less damage now, but i still think that the more constant stream of damage is better, and that it also better aligns with Doorman's gameplay goals, since it lets you destroy structures and farm enemy jungle camps more easily. And besides you can still just buy all the good utility items as Gunman. But honestly the thing that gives it the definitive edge for me is the faster power spikes. Gunman doesn't put two points into bell, meaning you get max cart 3 boons earlier, which in turn means you also get max door 3 boons earlier, and it makes such a difference. They're massive powerspikes for the character and the sooner you get to abuse them to hunt people down the better
>>544612426it kinda runs like shit for how it lookspost specs
>>544611464perfect fuckmeat for momo
>>544606878how's billy not a peak 4chan pick
some of you people must be smurfs in my rank because some games i feel everyone else is an npc but other games the whole entire team is extremely coordinated
>queue alone>play well>queue with group>play horrendously, feed all lane, spend the rest of the game trying to catch upi fucking hate myselfthese people probably think I'm fucking garbage and paying for my arcanist rank
Ivy is just good-wraith
>>544613465why the fuck is that our fault nigga
>>544613465matchmaking tries to average out the elo of both teamsthis means that match making constantly makes games that are 5 low rank people matched with 1 high rank person vs 6 people of a middling rank
>>544611464>shameless bushkind of hot
>>544613796I do this too, but I win most games with my group and lose a lot of games I solo queue
>>544612674I switched back to spirit Doorman after the nerf and have been doing well with it, as I was before I tried gun Doorman. I'll try gun again. Is his level 3 door really that big? I'm still really bad with the door and being in range to place it and also simply placing it in high pressure situations where the game doesn't wanna place it on a placeable wall and you gotta aim higher on the wall to actually place it...I can get good results with him which is why it's funny that I know I could be a lot better with his kit than I am.
>>544613804how?
>>5446131599800x3d 309032gb ram
>>544613910i played a match where both teams were seeker 3 but the enemy team picked up midboss and urns consistently, ended in 25 minutes with an 65k soul leadthe next game, also seeker 3, pretty much everyone stuck to their lanes and i took most of the kills in the game, went to 40 minutesi dont understand how both of those matches were the same rank. i'm not even seeker 3 i'm seeker 1
I don't know how to react to urn in any situation and I'm afraid to try and learn by making calls because if it goes badly it's a fucking huge swing in souls.
>>544614253how the fuck are you getting bad performance on that?you must be doing something retarded.
>>544614123Level five door is a massive, massive powerspike. It allows you to be basically anywhere on the map and still have a way out. It lets you shortcut the urn's delivery by half. If you have expansion on the door, it lets you place a door on your blue walker, and the other one can be placed anywhere up to the enemy's sinners on blue, meaning you can hunt people to kidnap and throw back at the walker even if they're nowhere near it. It lets you place a door inside the fountain and place the exit anywhere up to the back of your middle walker, meaning you can kidnap people to the fountain or just play around the absolute safety of having a door to the fountain in the middle of a teamfight. Max door makes you near omnipresent, it's extremely strong
>>544614345You should commit to every single urn since the end result is the game ends sooner
>>544614253>game runs well on high end hardwarewow no performance patch needed :)
>>544614345>Play doorman>Deliver urn>Ult whoever stop you from delivering urn>Deliver the urnSimple as that.
>>544614134m1 carry that does more and isn't free food for 90% of the game
>>544613804>doesn't auto win 1v1s>can't ganknot the same at allivy is miku that flies instead of walls
>>544614383My game runs fine.>>544614548My 3090 is old now, bro.Literally 2 whole generations.The 4080 is 80% faster and the 5090 is 150% faster.That's FAR from high end.
>>544614548>5 year old gpu>AMDjeet cpu that burns your house good>poverty amount of RAM>high endYou must be from venezuela or some other third world country if you think that's a high end system.
goodnight /dlg/tomorrow I'm gonna be better at deadlock
I'd rather be better at vrchat.At least that has women in it. The only women playing this game are the same "women" who sexually harassed the GOAT out of competitive vgc. That reminds me, who's the incineroar of Deadlock?
>>544615275>age is the primary determinant of gpu powerthe 3090 is objectively still a powerful card, the fact that a $3000 GPU is 2.5x faster means nothing herealso post resolution>>544615431>any X3D CPU at all>not at least upper-middle end>9800X3D>not literally the best gaming CPU available right now>32GB>poverty RAMyou're the dumbest person in the thread so far
>>544607553Why is there fucking fanfic slop of this game already
>team mate dies 11 times and then abandons. >We keep playing for 20 mins, almost win, it came down to a base raceI hope they never play deadlock ever again. Also I think I'm done until December, I swear *I* am the only person on earth that gets team mates this shitty.
What rank do people start becoming mid-boss pilled?In arcanist, I've noticed there is a great deal of hesitancy to doing mid if there are enemy walkers still up.I still ping mid if I think we can do it, because even if they completely ignore the call it reminds them that Midboss exists and we usually take the next opportunity so whatever.I know its too much to ask of my fellow shitlow players but FUCK man I want to start ripping these fucking 20 minute midbosses. Do some plays that get the heart PUMPING fuck this pussy shit
>>544611464No, this is how you fix deadlock
>doorman's ult double dips on spirit>1.0x and 1.5x scalingI want to play him but gunman seems super lamehow is building around ult?
I cant fucking wait for them to update midboss and jungle alreadySo many problems of the game stem from these being alpha placeholders currently
>>544617306The hero is so stupidly fucking broken that the ult somehow manages to be the weakest part of the kit.
>>544617306Just buy cooldowns, and slowing hex / knockdown if your team has no cc to put on the guy you ult. Then build greens to make sure you can get into thick of it and ult people freely. Damage from ult is barely relevant, taking enemy carry out for 3-6 seconds is much more of an impact
>>544617306>How is building around ultProbably not optimal, but it's doable. You're better off building for cart + bell burst if you're gonna be going for spirit doorman.
>>544617376I just want the mid boss to actually eviscerate heroes if they dont pay attention.Same with creeps. Give them actual abilities.
Anyone else think it's weird that you're not taking damage over time inside hodor
so now that we know deadlock is DEAD and NEVER getting another update. What are you all going to start playing now?
>>544617376nobody wants to have to pay attention when farming PvE.whenever they do change these things it's going to be extremely unpopular because everyone's already used to just holding mouse 1 from playing the game for a whole year.
Are we getting a patch today?
>>544617942>whenever they do change these things it's going to be extremely unpopular because everyone's already used to just holding mouse 1 from playing the game for a whole year.Oh no they need to move to avoid attacks instead if just being a braindead nigger that holds m1
>>544617993no
>>544618150yeah, that's exactly what i said.the fact that you mention having to move to avoid it being trivial makes the argument that they shouldn't even bother doing it since it'd be so easy to avoid that it's just busywork.
It's so satisfying when you bully someone hard enough with silence wave bebop that you see a debuff remover in their inventory. Now I get curse, bitch
watching streamers missing half their shots, watching a clip of them missing half their shots at 0.25x speed, and then banning the person who said they didn't hit 90% of their shots
>>544617891deadlock
>>544618591>>544617942It's not just about dodging abilities though.It's having creep camps that punish cettain playstyles.And Red/Hard camps actually being as threatening as their Ancient equivalents.
how bad of an idea is it to queue at 3 am est
>>544617891mount and blade bannerlord
>>544609513Most based post in the thread. Report all furniggers in game for cheating, effective gatekeeping is the only way to prevent a repeat of TF2.
When will valve add a female ixian to this game?
Thoughts on healing booster on Drifter? Max his one and add Fury Trance and you've got 80% bullet lifesteal tied to rend
>>544620634Cadence bro
>>544620643I feel like you'd rather just get more damage through res shred or firerate>gives you more heal during your lifesteal window>helps you kill the opponent during your lifesteal window
>>544616807>almost winSo you lost.And he was right to leave.This game needs a surrender button.
>>544616203trannies
can you no longer puddle punch or goo ball with the urn?
>>544613804we were psyoped by ivy players again tbqh, ivy is still gross, wraith does outscale her but the thing is ivy farm faster, splits better, and has way more utility, shes gonna spike faster
How do I contribute meaningfully in lane as Vyper, seems like every lane matchup against is either perfectly comfortable playing keepaway forever so I do no damage or beats me up close.
>>544621507buy a bit of spirit and screw em
wraith hits like a wet noodle and is useless in lane
>>544621601just shoot them lmao
>play Sinclair for the first time>mfw he's hardOk, now I get why people feed with him so much, he's as frail as Mina but with no way to run away and his Bolts are very janky. Fun fucker tho.
>>544622014>with no way to run away
>>544622014you're supposed to throw your wife under the bus and steal her safe position
>7 minutes into the game a bebop arrives to 3v2 us in lane>9 minutes into the game we eventually die to him and none of my teammates took a guardian or rotated overInstantly knew the game was over. How do these people make it to phantom I will never know
>>544622127>>544622363I know but your teleport can expire and doesnt feel right to build around your Temu Lady Geist as your main skill.
Fuck Ixians
>>544622409Game needs a great big rank reset. Too many people far too close to Eternus. Too many people in Eternus even.
>>544622513Ay whatchu said white boy?
>>544621601that is her intended weakness, get monster rounds and pray your lane mate can help clear wave fast
>>544622709is this why i see so many infernus players feeding (but not winning)?
>Yoshi putting us through one of the most insufferable metas in the game for an entire month before releasing the updateWhy is he like this?
>>544622837i'll just pick infernus instead
>>544622895he's working on hl3
>>544622895this meta is pretty decent though we don't have any true raid bosses atm that do literally everything (like how seven and warden were for nearly the games lifespan)
>>544622895You gotta earn it, bucko.
>>544609412yjk
>>544623278>pretty decentMina Kelvin
>>544623390Mina is the most overhyped fake meta hero in this game that is outclassed by every other real carry Kelvin is cancer but and needs nerfs but is nowhere near the level of raid boss we've seen from other heroes
I cant wait for midboss to be a real enemy that will fuck teams up
>>544623042>deletedkek gay jannies
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
STATE MANDATED WIN STREAK INTO STATE MANDATED LOSS STREAK FUCK THIS MATCH MAKING WORSE THAN TINDER
fov slider when
>>544622578there's just too many factors to what makes people rank up, they can be completely clueless monkeys about everything in the game but if they win one fight near midboss then they can rank up anyway cause it all comes down to boss
>>544622578This will self-correct as the playerbase increases and the game gets older. We're in the infancy of the game's meta, people who are pros right now are going to be struggling in a couple of years. I do agree that there are too many Eternus though, part of me feels like Eternus should be reserved for a server's top 200 or something like that
>>544624171really good imagevyper is probably one of my favorites personality wise but is only good in lane stage without teammates carrying her late
>>544623278>this meta is pretty decent
>>544624476>40 players total per eternus tier per regionlol
>>544617053wtf is this real????
>stomp because their team is bad and doesnt group up>get stomped cause our team is bad and doesnt group up>stomp because their team is bad and doesnt group upI'm noooooooooticing!!!!
>>544624662eternus is pretty funny when you realize half of it is smurfs
>>544624775wtf is THAT real
>>544624872yes :3
Every other character is so boring, I just want to play mina.But I'm so bored of playing only 1 character.What should I do?Start making joke builds?
>4/6 of the enemy team is dead>tell them we should go fight the midboss>everyone just fucks off to do random bullshit>dynamo decides to fight the yellow walker by himself and dies to a lash>zero teammates go mid>enemy respawns and cleans up the lanesok
>>544624936melee mina, echo shard for blink to get in and out
>>544624936seriously doubt you have played a game as every character
>>544626379I don't play dishonest characters.
>>544626379My brother has and he has 1,000 hours in this game
>>544624785>Anon finds out about the existence of EOMM
Is the "damage dealt by type" graph broken? It doesn't reflect the actual values.
It's satisfying having some miserable lane and soldiering through all their annoying poke damage only to end up taking their walker first with no deaths
>>544626997Yep, at least when playing against a shiv, its completely useless
>>544620260>not playing warband instead
Why can you place puddles on the cube itself? Countless times I'm trying to punch a cubed friendly away but instead of the wall behind them i get the cube.
>>544626997I think I understand it now. It's an area chart, but they didn't color in the area.
played my first doorman gameplacing doors is really annoying
>>544627441because it's funny
Is it always the same people that play in the custom games?
>>544627717No I'd 20-30% that I see join every time are not regulars
Why do furries think they're welcome here?
>>544628212but they are welcome here
what if valve released a huge update on half-life's anniversary that changed it back to Citadel
>>544628495City 17 Imposters
>>544596723>he's scrawnyNot really. Infernus may look scrawny on the first glance (especially compared to Lash and Abrams), but he is pretty tall and has somewhat sizable biceps.
>>544629178
>place door>majestic jump in>place second door and cart to move enemy into the middle of my team>except the second door doesn't place because of wonky geometryhow does anyone stomach this
>take a break for a month >or suffer through another month Are you Icefraud's strongest soldier?
>>544630154game's fine except for mid boss
they need to balance the cc across teamsif i ever have to lane against mo and bebop i would rather just abandon match and go play a different game until my ban is over
>>544630275and kelvinand minaand wraithand paigeand the matchmakingand the snowballingand gun items
>>544630280buy knockdown
>>544630410kelvin is op but not annoying mina is annoying but not op (45% wr)wraith?????? wtfpaige is kinda op but not annoying unless youre a chimp that has to dive every lanematchmaking is finesnowballs are because of midbossgun items???????tldr, your dumb
>>544630280Some lanes are straight up unplayable. I once had a Kelvin/Viscous lane and wanted to uninstall the game so fucking bad.
>>544630280aieee i cant move im so maaaaaaad
>>544630513absolutely retarded opinions you can't be higher than low archon why are you speaking about a game you don't undestand
if a vindickhead has divine barrier or debuff remover is my only (item) option to get her down phantom strike? I must be overlooking something. This is dumb
>>544606878Only Pocket uses 4cuck because he's a was/were tranny
So is Seven's dick a bacon too?
>>544606878>ImplyingBilly fits the sterotypical /v/ fag to a t. contrarian rage-tard who hates everything just for the sake of it.
>>544629178this shit looks retarded
I hate Shiv.
>>544631420THE BAXTER SOCIETY HAS YOUR NUMBER!Yeah he feels overtuned, he's a tank/front liner with mobility and a execute, so its going to be a hard balancing line.
i've had a lady geist vindicta lane before and pretty much every time i wanted to hide from her pressure from above i would have a massive aoe puddle on mefucking dreadful
>>544606878viscous plays puzzle games on his mom's ipad
Vinny should have better HP scaling so she doesn't fall off so hard past lane phase.There is 0 reason for her to have less HP than Talon.
Call me a noob or something but isn't Silence (from any item/ability) just pure anti-fun? It just fucks you over so badly there is pretty much nothing you can do about it. Once you're silenced, good fucking luck dealing with even the most basic of attacks from 2+ enemies. You only move is to dodge as much as possible or just hope that you have enough HP to survive. Some characters can silence you so fast and easily it's laughable (Mina). Silence is just instant death by another name
How miserable.
>>54463158546% winrate
>>544631585He has zero mobility and sucks dick
>>544630410>and wraithyeah she's dogshit
>>544632701
>>544632701>zero mobilityHe has a dash and can propel himself with his m2.What the fuck are you talking about?
>>544632774A lot of characters can kill him from above while he's just a sitting cuck
>mirage>bot 3 gun dps(base and max boon)>highest spirit scaling ability in the game(mark 12 stacks, 2.5x)>the playerbase: im gonna build gunName of this phenomenon?
>>544633591you need gun to apply the stacksyes building him like Haze is a huge mistake but you do need some RoF and Ricochet
>>544633591Mass psychosis or mass sociogenic illness
how the hell do i get better at the game when my fellow laner is a mouthbreather and goes 1 and 10 the game?
>>544633829Fire rate doesnt matter for mark at best and is an active detriment at worst. Its an internal timer so 1 bullet or 10, doesnt matter you get same stack for same time. Too much means you are reloading which will add delay to stackingRicochet is pretty good but super late after your built, it also is super buggy with mystic reverb(which brings the scaling up to 3.75x) so I think the latter is just better
>>544606878viscous uses whatsapp because its green
>>544610591>20th century is packed full of the western cannon's great novelists>instead of being an Invoker-like character and a reference to them, Paige is an arthurianslop-themed fujoAnother day, another reason to hate Paige
>>544634371I'm shitlow so I have been building him literally wrong, but to be honest I almost never ever get games with him, I think I got a total of like 5 games and I've just done the QSR into MM and then add whateveris CDR and Piccolo the way to actually build him?
I fucking hate Haze players.They are so fucking retarded.How can someone feed 12 times while the other 5 team members are doing absolutely fine and even dominating in fights?Haze players are just not right in the head.
>>544636708Haze really is the Riki of Deadlock
>>544617053Unironically this should be a cosmetic reward for winning 1000 games on the character or somethingImagine golden abrams>>544624872the cat is not real
>>544634865Here's how I build him, cdr then into flat spirit later. This version really bothers me because I had to deviate from my usual strategy of investment breakpoints + its 9 slots instead of 8 but that's just my ocd. Recent changes were adding surge of power because its op and switching from Escalating resilience to titanic mag to mitigate the new additional fireratemark mirage, draft 11Lane>mystic regenFor regen>extended magBought for stat from investment, also if you get any attack speed from boxes you need the extra ammo to proc x8 before reloading >Extra health(or regen/Healing rite)For soul Efficient stats, sold later*can skip this whole category for powerspike, im experimenting with starting extended into compress cooldown to hit at the same time as mark t2 upgradeThe power spike>compress cooldownImbued the mark >QsR Imbued to mark, should be able to magdump, qsr at maxstacks/0 ammo, then mag dump again for 2 max stack procs>Lane TipsPlay safe until powerspike is online, then hit and run around your qsr cooldown. You are a lane bully and should win most matchups through harassment Midgame>Titanic MagNeed ammo to hit max stacks before reload>Surge of power(Imbued to mark)For flat spirit, ms is nice bonus>enchanters emblemDecent flat spirit which is preferred for mark, also gives cdr> spirit shielding, could also get spirit lifesteal Shield is taken over lifesteal for tempo, lifesteal will scale better >Midgame TipsContinue with lane gameplay loop but add an emphasis on side lanes. Push one, then tp and push the other, you want to make the enemy run back and forthLate game>Superior cooldown>mercurial mag>Spiritual overflow>divine kevlarSuper late game>boundless>mystic reverb To end the gameThe rest is left open for flexibility but would reccomend Duration, Magic carpet, juggernaught, ricochet+inhibitor
>Play my main>Win easily>Play literally anybody else>Lose easilyOk, what should I do?
>>544636870accept losses as part of growth
>>544636870smurf account for each new character you want to learn
>>544636992get good
>>544637035stupid chud
>>544632549that shiv is almost certainly smurfing hope you reported him (but he prob just gets another account)
>How powerful is this hero>Sinclair>5Yes, I consider myself devilish & a prankster
>>544632516if it's not curse you can just dispel it with debuff remover or wait it out with ethereal shift
>>544632549Name a worse feel as maurice & krilliam
>>544637263Fighting Billy. There is really nothing they can do to counter him.
>>544632516stun is the real instant death condition since it disables movement as well, if you’re silenced you’re still able to shoot (meaning gun characters can still deal lots of damage to their target even without using their abilities)mina’s ult specifically is a strong silence because debuff remover can’t remove ultimate effects and she applies it in a pretty wide area unless you have coverI’d recommend buying a stamina item if you aren’t already doing that
>>544637248*shoots you*https://files.catbox.moe/82irmr.webm
How do you counter Calico?
>>544637658i think this game would be drastically better if all stuns were turned to immobilize
>>544637713Don't get hit by gloombomb
>>544637998No stuns=no funSimple as
>>544637998fuck off jeff kaplan>muh bad feel mechanicsin order for there to be a winner there must be a winner. disabling feels bad for the disabled, but good for the disabler
>>544637713dont be fucking retarded
>>544637713Darling you don't have a chance
>>544630280wheres your reactive barrier bro
>>544638889*buy this against bebop every lane for free win*this game is so fucking easy
>>544637713get enough HP to survive her combo and she struggles.this is why they always fall off after like 20 minutes.
>kill 3 enemies yellow lane>2 enemies are currently in green>ping lets push yellow and start barreling towards their walker>holliday does camps>lash backs off to do a sinnersi love "ascendant" rank
>>544639314quite a few people have been carried to higher ranks by their friends, so you can see some legitimate retards there
>>544639016I think the issue is if you are playing a squishySpirit shielding might be enough early but spellbreaker doesnt work because the gloom isnt one big nuke but 7 small ones
>>544637713slowing hex turns off her 2 and 4
>>544639525they need to add a seperate MMR for solo for people that only stack.as soon as people that stack have to gauge the game state and make decisions for themselves they just falter and play like retards.maybe once the game comes out we can get a solo only queue.
>>544639758I miss the old ranked system.
>>544639525>>544639758the thing is based on how these people play for the rest of the match they at least know how to PLAY they just suck dog shit at macrobut at the very least you would expect they can listen to comms if they are used to being carried by comms in their stack
I think the problem with matchmaking (for this game and all other games) is the efforts & rewards don't meet my expectations.>Play an easy game>rank up anyway>Play the sweatiest game ever>Doesn't rank up
Is everything below Oracle just bunch of retards playing with each others?Why don't people ever deliver urns after wiping the enemies?There's 10k fucking souls in there
>>544641076you'd think people would be more excited about a jar of souls
>>544641076As someone in oracle, i can tell you its full of animals too
>>544641325ok, phantom then
>>544639758I suggested earlier they should have a solo q player draft, with 2 captains that take turns drafting players in addition to heros
>>544641483thankfully they ignored you.we don't need a 5 minute pregame setup only for people to not be happy with what they got.
>>544641076urn = boringplaying paige and pressing 1 on the right side jungle camp = fun
>>544641076>>544639314
>>544641557Idk of they ignored me cause I suggested it recently player draft would unironically improve the closeness of games. There would be a secondary captain mmr so shit captains wouldnt be frequent and players would still choose their own heroIt would be a bit time consuming but id rather 5mins for a good game then 1minute for a 30m shitshow
>>544641557If you dont like it then dont q it, simple as
>>544641483>>544641894>fucking player draftI understand why yoshi has a secondary "secret" playtest
>>544642042>drafting which player gets fuckedg-gosh...
>>544642042t. Last pick You've never played dodgeball at summer camp and for that you have my pity
>hehe i shot you twice now you have to go into the cuck corner unless you want my love bites proc to do 200 damage to you 4 minutes inepic, simply epic. i love laning against mina
>>544614821i thought you mean like lore/personality wise lmao
>>544636836why do people buy mystic regen on mirage. seems like a terrible item on him>pop your mark off CD to maximize healing>completely negate your own presence by making sure it never stacks
>>544643414you can literally >shoot once, apply mark>use djinn's mark active, heal>shoot once again, apply mark again
>>544643607oh damn I didn't realize popping the mark meant bypassing the stack grace period. I thought it was tied to the CDmakes sense
>gets nuked from orbitWhere the fuck did he go?
add more aura itemsI want to roleplay chen and be the ultimate in standing around technology
>wave getting close to walker>teammate is right next to it doing a camp>he ignores it and stays farming>walker goes downwhy does monkey thing red means good
>>544643996yeah the grace period is just for the multiplier, not the marking itself
>the entire first few rows of Twitch streams are basically all InfernusFUCKOFFNIGGERPLAY SOULPLAY A CHARACTER WITH SOUL RIGHT NOW
I was in the zone for this match, god damn.
>>544644503hehehe...you see that shit?
>Enemies have constant 8-10k lead in souls>Have lead in kills from start to finish>Still lost the gameWhy? Because they started midboss but bailed when we respawn and went mid.Later on, after killing 2 enemies, we went for midboss and realized that the midboss is close to death already.Finished it, grab rejuv, and comeback from there.People need to grow some balls.We are not even close to mid yet, and they could have finished midboss if all of them just commit.But hey, a free win is a free win.If the enemies want to throw, who am I to say no to that?>Pic is how close they are from killing midboss when we are ziplining towards mid.
I genuinely do not understand how people cannot understand basic concepts like>put waves until it's on their side of the map (more specifically, push 2 to guarantee advantage)>enemy now has to pick between taking the wave/saving walker or stopping you from stealing the jungle>fight people in the jungle or gank another lane while attention is diverted>with kill advantage, get major objective (mid/urn)>winThis isn't even Deadlock exclusive. This is basic moba knowledge. If this was back when League/Dota released, yeah, sure, whatever. But the niggers playing this game quite literally grew up with mobas. Even omegashitlow players should know this basic shit by nowSo why the FUCK am I getting people randomly sprinting for the enemy jungle while the lanes are sitting dead even nearby and fucking BROOOOOOOOOOOLing, followed by our walkers dying to creeps every single fucking game
>>544643414I didnt for the longest and had the same thought process, but dlg bullied me into itThe whole point of that build is managing the fire rate/mark stack cd so I dont have to micro and can just hold m1 and the item kind of goes against that. I think im just gonna remove it for extra spirit and healing rite
>>544645665people who are here from hero shooters where such a concept just doesn't exist
are the horrible builds the reason for Mirage's absolutely atrocious winrate?
>>544644287>hunters aura>Heroic aura>torment pulse>alch fire>scourge>healing nova>colossus You need more? That's a full build right there
Help I've become a Sinclair player. Not very good at hitting all my skills consistently and am going a typical nuker build. Hitting people with their own ults is easily one of the most satisfying feelings though. Fuck you Lash, fuck you Drifter, fuck you Doorman. How do YOU like it?
>>544645665A vast number of players don't come from MOBAs, they come from hero shooters or other valve games like TF2
>>544646394Take the gunclair pill>longest fall off range>lowest bullet velocity (this is yoshis attempt to reign his op gun in)>burst fire(same as bullet velocity, yoshi is terrified of the gunclair)Sharpshooter, express shot, hollowpoint
Which one of you niggas is watching a bot match, I refuse to believe anyone would want to watch a botmatch.
>>544644503I saw a wraith with ttv in their name maybe she's more your speed?
>>544646943My bad im retarded, you want to lean into the low velocity with weighted shots instead of express
>>544606878my mains are Instagram users nice
>>544606878Billy 100% uses 4chan to spout conspiracy theories (he's right about all of them)
>>544610364communicate. use vc or chat wheels
>>544648186Plotting, his teammate is metro and communication only accelerated the feeding
>>544647835Billy would use 4chan for about a day and then get upset and stop when someone called him the n word for the first time
>>544647835Okay lads, what are the big conspiracy theories for the setting?>The Baxter Society is a psy-op to make people less racist to Ixians by contrasting them with fake monsters>Pocket's family line are actually non-human frog people masquerading as humans>Mcginnis doesn't exist, she is a fake person and all her inventions are actually made by a collection of hidden scientists on fairfax's payroll
>>544646943>>544646943I do have to say Surge of power with Assistant feels really good so I can see this being good. The coolest Sinclair build I saw was pretty much a CC/pusher bot. He would use arcane surge set the Assistant somewhere then Mahstic leap/magic carpet somewhere drop bunny or hard push and right before the duration was over just teleport back and do it over and over again.
>>544648348You act like everyone here isn't a bunch of seething retardsBilly has been insulted by everyone in the cast and still continues to fire back, all while entering the ritual without anything supernatural about him other than cosmetic horns. He's a schizo retard but he isn't a quitter
>game had 22 heroes this time last year>the total pool was so small you would see a lot of repeats, but there was still some level of variety>the game has 32 heroes now>even less variety than before every game is full of people abusing metaslopsad desu
>>544648493>Billy has been insulted by everyone in the cast and still continues to fire back, all while entering the ritual without anything supernatural about him other than cosmetic hornsI doubt he has zero magic powers, his 1 leaves a anarchist... rune? on the floor and he has a line about the goat head giving him mystic bullshit.He's almost certainly one of the weaker people in the ritual however, and the fact he's willing to fight against scary fuckers like Drifter in the ritual means something. My little goat underdog.
>>544648717The game is unplayable if your main isn't A tier or up.
>>544640995They should just make the underlying numeric elo visible like dota.
>>544645164Most of the human population does not figure out things on their own. They need it to be explained or prompted to think. When given a chance to play like idiots on autopilot, they almost always will.
>>544647835Billy is an /x/fag who posts exclusively to piss people off, especially to tell religioids that their God isn't real and gangstalked schizos that he's living in their walls
>>544648359Calico's cat? UglyCalico's cat? StupidThe Baroness? StupidThe Professor? StupidVampires? Stupid-assVindicta's dress? RidiculousGhost owl? BullshitInfernus' bar? SucksIvy? Up to no goodBear Pit? RiggedThe adversary? Doesn't existHis name? Not William
>>544649505>His name?BILLLLLLLLLYYY!!!! LET YOUR RAAAAAAAAAAAAGEEE FLOW THROUGH YOU!!!!
>>544648805i think him and lash have the least supernatural shit, lash having either 1 or 0 supernatural artifacts and billy only really having the hornshis 1 is just a themed cracking effect not actually magic imo
why is deadlock voice acting so good bros I usually do not notice sound in games except when they are exceptional>MINA HAAAAA
>>544650367>MINA DAAAARTS AMONGST THEM, A PERPETUAL THORN IN THEIR SIIIIIIIIIDE
>>544649034Wouldn't help.It will just change into>Play easy game>+20>Play sweaty game>+22That extra +2 really doesn't represent the extra efforts at all.
>>544650367>Abrams will crush them with his bare handsHearing this shit is what makes me play Abrams
how is the game supposed to know when your match is "sweaty"
>>544630280B-B-B-BUT I WAS TOLD 3 LANES FIXED THIS???
>>5446511522+ soul count swings
>>544651972hmmm
why did no one tell me Zerggy is asian, I visualized him as some eu ubermensch
>>544651972Now post their score. Did they go 0/10?
>>544651972mina's HP is so low the glass cannon drawback is minimized, 150iq build
>>544652059his family are from hong kong so he is technically british if they moved there before it got handed back to china
>>544651972>HVR on Minanani?
>>544651972might be the worst build i've ever seen
Elo hell ((might)) be real>play in pisslow with friend(about 6 ranks down)>tell them not to do midboss>they try to force it and die feeding it to the enemy team>tell them they need knockdown/slowing hex and they'll stop dying to Bebop Kelvin infernus and Mina. No one buys it>tell them not to brawl in the jungle>still do over and over stacking them infinitely I finished 17-3 with like 20 assists but I could not carry this shit. I'm just a support main I can't 1v6 even if I'm playing a carry. Genuinely don't know how anyone would escape this type of hell because these games were pretty fucking miserable.
>>544652048>>544652093>>544652212>>544652416>>544652478
>>544652992>picks the most slippery character>exclusively to push walkersbased
>>544652992>Went postive KDA alongside most objective damageI had a full, proper joker laugh thank you anon. How the fuck is Mina negative win-rate when you have people building shit like that on her.
>>544652975elo hell *is* real but the people that usually complain about it are the mandatory loss agents themselves so it gets downplayed. I've seen it in so many matchmaking games it isn't even funny like on dude on enemy team who is so much better then literally everyone losing with zero deaths and high impact.
>>544646172Add juggernaut, and healing tempo. Now you can take bullets to lower their fire rate and then when you heal you increase your allies.
>>544652992genuinely how? any gun damage is a waste on herpost match id
How do I play Yamato?All I do it copy a build, which is usually a spirit build and I just press 1 but unless I get ahead, pressing 1 just leaves me wide open to getting 70% of my hp eaten away
>>544605395>anytime I hook someone he either whiffs his cart, or he carts them back in the direction I hooked them fromone of the doorman+bebop conversations is about this, lol
im back in archon my crackers
>>544606878Drifter uses Instagram to get the location of vulnerable women
>>544653658Every woman (and man) is vulnerable to him bro. Why would he need an app. He can just take out a whole block overnight
>>544650367>>544650451Never heard these clips because I'm not a mina playing fag
>>544653641(Congradulations or I'm sorry here) to you>>>544653836Wraith has an interaction with him about this. Where he wants to bet on who kills the most but she's worried he won't stop and they'll lose kek
>>544650194Lash is a god himself.
>>544653935The patron says it when she's on a kill streak too faggot you've definitely heard it. I'm not sure why people here are so averse to Mina. She's got a fantastic design and fun kit. You don't have to be contrary just for the sake of it.
>>544653641>ed edd n eddy trio in deadlock>primary gun is the slingshot from double d>secondary fire is the stink bombs from eddysomething also with the abilities can't think right now
>>544653961I was like archon 3 a few weeks ago and went on an insane loss streak, glad to be back :^DHow do people feel about gun kelvin? just tried it for the first time and was really fun but felt selfish considering I'm usually focusing on healing and saving people
>>544653641went up or went down?
>>544654160long charge that does big damage and throws people into the air for ed
>>544653935I'm terrible at her but she's quite fun. also imo she's a good hero for learn movement
>>544652975if you play a higher sample of games you will eventually climb, elo hell isn't real you are the elo u deserve
>>544652992Free thinker DESTROYS metaslavesMissed Kinetic dash for the stam recov combo with stam mastery tho
>>544652975You're literally boosted if you can't carry games 6 ranks lower than your actually rank. You just got lucky and other people boosted you.
>buy spirit shielding, weapon shielding, bullet res, spirit res, and return fire>return fire does 2-3k damage each fightwait is this item good actually
>>544653310I had some retard in here a few days ago talking to me about how "Mina is a split damage hero that punishes you if you don't build bullet resists"
>>544653173>How the fuck is Mina negative win-rate when you have people building shit like that on her.she's negative winrate because that kind of retard plays her, these dogshit builds can work because mina is that broken and braindead but usually they eat shit
>>544654623>elo u deserveFirst of all type normally you fucking mong this isn't xitter. Second I'm playing on an alt with a new friend learning the game.>>544654976>boostedI have over 700 games played with a 55ish% winrate. You don't just high roll your way there.
>>544654976>just 1v6 as your team literally hands the enemy advantages XDNTA but you're a retard. Unless you're playing exclusively M1 tower destroyers, you physically cannot 1v6 because you can't punish bad macro before your entire ass team gets wiped out. You can't run through their entire team and clear out all their towers alone. This isn't Dota where you buy BKB, jump their carry which lets you run over their team, and solo obliterate the next 3 towers before the enemy respawnsSometimes the enemy is 'just' smart enough to not run at the carry 1 by 1 like lemmings and instead dogpile you with CC. Sometimes your team is retarded enough to do mid with a Dynamo + Infernus up and there's not a single thing you can do to make them stop. Sometimes they just have Doorman + Krill because of cancer matchmaking RNG and you simple don't get to play, unless of course you just wait until your entire team dies to bait out all their CDs and then 'maybe' you can clean up the stragglers - but then you're likely to get a retard screaming at you who proceeds to run it down + drop an urn at their base for them + DC in rage. And sometimes they happen to have a single person who just buys all the support shit that stops you from playing for 8 secondsThis game isn't solo carryable unless the stars align. Maybe once every 3 games if you're so unfathomably skilled the enemy just evaporates in your presence, but not every game. Not until they put in a real BKB + make it so every character gets proper scaling tower damage even when purple/green
who's the best hero for an Overwatch Moira main?
>>544654976naheveryone loses games. that just happensexpecting to win every game because you have a main character complex is shitter mentality. what matters is the long term win ratio and your overall consistency
>>544656105paige
can someone explain why people imbue pain battery with compress cooldown on victor? it's a 2s cooldown...
>>544656725CDR on Pain Battery and similar abilities like Wraith's cards makes them charge up faster. In Victor's case this means you need to take less of your health as damage to be able to use it. The max upgrade paired with that makes CDR on it very strong
>>544656105Lady geist? pretty much same vibes
>>544653087>>544653173>>544653310>>544654795Ogey but don't make fun of me, I'm laggy recently and that's the only reason I'm on Kelvin.
>>544654976People that think this are actually bad at the game and don't win games because they are uncarryable.
>>544657006>damage mogged and heal mogged by dynamowhat is it that you would say you *do* here?
>>544657193exist. idk when I'm getting real bad lag this is how my stats look.
>>544654976there are so many heroes in this game whose specialty is hatecriming the fuck out of the scariest enemy on the other team so i dont know how you can think this what do you think happens when heroes like doorman/holliday/mk/calico press tab and see that an m1 carry is 5-1 and the other 5 heroes on the enemy team are all 0-8 and 10k souls behindthis is ignoring all the other obvious issues that have already been pointed out to you
>>544656048This is pretty much how I felt doing those games too. Like I felt stronger than I do in any of my games. Just deleting people who are alone or 1v2 maybe 1v3 but when they deathball I can't. It doesn't help that I don't play M1 characters, only Paige, Paradox Calico and Pocket as my main roaster. It does set an interesting prescient though that you need a team to win in this game because despite being a support main in dota. I've played in herald or guardian lobbies and just picked a carry, then deleted their team alone. Meanwhile in deadlock I played Mina, Calico, and Billy but felt like I still couldn't lift the team.
>elo hell is real because some games are unwinnable
>>544654976The problem with that is all it takes is the Seeker The Doorman on the enemy team realising he has free will and he can just buy Phantom Strike and press 4 on you every time there is a fight to guarantee a 6v1 every time.>UnstoppableUnlikely you can kill his entire team before it runs off, unfortunately
>>544656213>what's the best character for a slippery character who requires no aim>character who has the slowest bullets in the game and hard to land skillshotsNo, retard.>>544656105Kelvin has similar mobility and a beam just like Moira while also being a character who pumps out heals or damage depending on how you use them.
>>544657739paige is mechanically brain dead and practically plays herself. just like moira
>>544654246BACK TO EMISSARY ANYWAYS MATE FUCK IT
>>544657595no you dont get it im the main character i should ALWAYS win and be the BEST
>>544657856Lefaa just spawned in
>whole suite of late game options to counter spirit damage>two (2!!) whole options for late game gun counters>they both barely increase your survival time against an equally farmed gun carryWALLAH YOU ARE CARRIED
>>544658087Curse is an anti carry item and goes on all heros in the game.
It's a simple thought but you should always remember that everytime you win 6 people lose, so you should be mindful that if you lose then 6 people winYou are bound to lose some games and i know it feels frustrating but no one will have a WR higher than 60ish% because someone has to win!
>>544658087the counter to gun carries is to kill them before they kill you.
>>544657006the other team was merely incredibly fucking bad.
>>544658087curse, disarming hex. suppressor, juggernaut, plated armor, warpstone, literally any stun in the game you're a nigger
Would Silence Wave be better for Drifter and Focus Lens? Is the extra Souls for a -10s cooldown and 30% extra damage that worth it?
I think it's farewall for me lads.I just came out of a losing streak of 8 matches, including 2 matches with disconnects (on my team) and 3 matches that I finished 10/0 or with a similar ratio, in 6 of the matches I ended up being the top damage on enemy or objective on my teamI dropped a full rank with this, and I just feel like shitI don't feel like I make an impact or carry my team of retards even if I play at my bestI don't feel like the game is rewarding my effort or my time on it, so I think it's over, I even uninstalled the gameThanks for the good matches Deadlock, but it does not compensate the bad matches
>>544658087it being slot efficient to defend against gun carries is a deliberate design decisiongun carries are supposed to end the game once they hit a certain networth. you're not supposed to be able to do anything about it
>>544658719see you tomorrow
>>544657595>>544657562Elo hell isn't real if you play 500 gamesBut elo hell is "hell" because you have to play through misery and suffering cock and ball torture games where you can be 20/3 and still feel powerless, whether because of pure character RNG, because they have a duo/trio stack willing to gangfuck you, or because this isn't like other mboas where the hyper-fed character just split pushes and kills 2 - 3 people under their tower with impunity. It's a game where half the cast has methods of making it impossible to push while sitting safely under the walkerYou give me 100 games of serene Buddhist mental and I'll get out of any elo. But I don't want to play more than 3 like that. I'd rather just go jerk off. It's hell because it's agony and torture. Even in hell you get redeemed eventually, but holy fuck it hurts to shit and I'm probably going to go insane before then because it's literally crushing my balls with a rock every single game for minuscule rewards
whenever i watch my friends who say they're in elo hell and they're only low rank because they play with low rank friendsthey fucking suckthey do not have the mechanics or macro sense to do well in a /dlg/ inhouse let alone high rank pubs
Kelvin moment xd
>>544657595It's ok if some games are unwinnableIt's not ok if some games are unwinnable and they extend to 45min+If it's a clear stomp and you did your best that's not hellIt's hell knowing you are going to lose and you are still in the game 45 minutes waiting for it
>>544657739first retard in the world thinks paige needs skill
>>544658459yes.
>>544659038>/dlg/ inhouseThose are a shitstorm usually, rare for them to actually play out like a real game.
>>544659196>1 requires perfect aim and will fail half the time due to jank>3 is one of the hardest to land skill shots in the game>ult can literally be jumped over if you don't aim it >2 stamina >has to melee for last hits because gun velocity is too slow to meet the anti deny timerShow me your Paige winrate
>>544637713spellbreaker
>>544658817yeah I mean you're just describing the moba experience, at some point you'll need a team to play the game with you because it's a team game>>544659149maybe they could add a surrender option but stalling the game out is always a good strategy to win from behind in mobas since death timers get absurd in the late game
>>544637713counterspell
>>544659038I had a 6 game loss streak the other day where literally every game I was 25/4 or some shit. No one wants to mid when they had 2 down, I had to run the urns after I was the one to kill their players, and I was the one constantly reminding people to keep lanes pushed before brooling so we had prioAfter that 6 game loss streak of unfathomable scores that would have let me right-click the enemy fountain/throne/base in any other game, My fabled wins were back-to-back 5v6s where someone left at 8 minutes and I got 30+ kills in eachThis game is a fucking meme. The games that should be easy are miserable and the games that should be guaranteed losses somehow zenkai boost me. I'm a genuine ex-pro from a couple other games, paid and all, and I've had periods of elo hell in this shit. Now right now I'm doing relatively well and don't feel like I'm in any kind of hell, just lazy and burned out and don't want to play more than 5 games a day, but elo hell 100% exists in this game because there's more players than other mobas + less ability to punish macro mistakes + no pick/bans + sometimes Doorcuck exists + midboss singlehandedly guarantees wins for 'either' team and it's easy for retards to throw it independent of your actions
>>544659631NTA but Paige is very easy. >inb4 small size sampleyou only wanted the winrate.
>>544656846>>544657739thanks, i hate their aesthetics but their kits each have something i'm afteri'm much more about the dps-hps race rundown than the beam ult so geist is more what i'm looking for but i'll give both a tryalso moira does need some aim, she can't headshot but the magnetism on her rightclick is almost entirely visual>>544657823>paige is mechanically brain dead and practically plays herself. just like moirapaige is nothing like moira based on her kit, and moira unironically has a very high skill and very sweaty ceiling
>>544659837Not at all. Other mobas have 1 less person and whether it's League or Dota, both let you literally walk at people under the towers with reckless, mindless abandon when you're fed and unless the 'enemy' plays well, you will simply ignore everything in your way. It doesn't matter if you're playing Phantom Lancer or Mundo, Meepo or Vayne. When you get a lead in other mobas, the tower dies in 4 seconds unless they stop you - and the person who stops you just becomes another bag under that tower. Bar support characters and a few rare exceptions, basically any character in either of those games, when ahead, becomes a threat you have to answer that will cleave your base in about 20 seconds when unchecked. This game doesn't let you do that
>>544659449>play in house>fed Abrams comes out of blue lane>rapes everyone carrying the game>person from his lane calls /us/ shortbus teammatesGetting butthurt over an in house is crazy why even show up
>>544660287>a very high skill and very sweaty ceilingi will be killing myself shortly
>>544660385I just wanted to play troll builds but got raped by a gun kelvin so I realized we were not allowing fun.
>>544660323late game victor and infernus are pretty threateningI'm only a humble dotard so I don't know what league has but dota's base defense is way different than deadlock's even though carries have a much higher power ceiling in dota than deadlock, they can't just instantly end the game because it's actually difficult to break into the opponent's base in dota. defender's on their last legs actually get a chance
>>544660287>both are low skill>both have an ultimate that heals your team and damages the enemy>both barely need to aim>both can play selfishly without even supporting at all
>>544659837>but stalling the game out is always a good strategy to win from behindNot on this gameThere is no comeback mechanicThere is fallback mechanic, if you lose lanes (100% souls) you can do jungle (50% souls)If you lose lane, and the enemy steals your farm, and the enemy don't push or is retarded and dies in teamfight, there's nothing you can do to recoverKills don't give nearly enough souls (It's like 30%)So if the enemy pushes, steals, and dies, you don't get an advantage
>>544660772you literally get more souls from everything for being behind
>>544659981this is basically me>>544658719except I quit
>>544660869>teammate abandons>the enemy gets the urn on their side after 5 seconds I fucking hate this mechanic.
>>544660869A real comeback would net you lane+jungle.It doesn't.If the enemy pushes lane, steals your jungle, and dies in a teamfight, YOU, WHO ARE BEHIND, STAY BEHIND
>>544660772>There is no comeback mechanicWRONG. Comeback urn, comeback kill gold, comeback creeps gold>There is fallback mechanicWRONG. Urn, raiding enemy jungle>If you lose lane, and the enemy steals your farm, and the enemy don't push or is retardedIf the enemy plays better than you do, you lose, how is this a game's fault? It doesn't owe you a free win or a free comeback whenever you please.>didn't even mention how overtuned Midboss isI'm sensing a massive skill issue from this entire post.
>>544660869>your entire jungle is cleaned in a sec>their minions arrive at mach5 usually alongside the fed carry
>>544661218you don't want a game where a lead can be swung in one teamfightunless your team has seriously thrown the game, you can get back in two teamfightsrun your urn goober
>>544660574Lategame Victor isn't nearly as much of a threat as he used to be because the main reason he was a threat is E Shift. He's good at diving but he's not good at the macro-punishing; he builds spirit so he's just not going to be as good at tower crushing as M1s areInfernus I'll give you, but he's also a character where you can be behind and still kill people in 4 seconds. Even then, he's still not at the level where he singlehandedly sweeps your entire base in 20 seconds like every other game's fed characters. That being said - even if he was, I don't want to play Infernus every game. He's a boring as fuck retard character. You shouldn't be forced to play the top 'fuck off' character if you're going to go 20/5 every game on any other character anywayBoth do 'part' of what's necessary to 1v6 every game like other mobas give you the chance to, but neither give you the full package that you can easily build for in either gameWhile Dota's base defense can be cancer vs Sniper etc, Dota is also notorious for being a game where you have an item you can build for every situation. And at the end of the day, the 20/5 character with an 8+ second BKB does not give the slightest fuck about your highground defense. They're going to blink in and kill your entire team solo, under towert. Meepo/Beastmaster sweat that did just that, and even my best games here don't give me the slightest iota of control I did in my 'average' games on themWith Deadlock, the annoying thing is actually getting to the opponent's base. Sure, the two generators can go down fast if unchecked, but the point is that I could be at their base 10 minutes earlier in Dota/League, because I can just dive whoever comes to stop me on repeat. Try that in Deadlock pre-20 mins and you just get walker stomped for half your HP, and if you shoot the walker while ignoring them it still takes 20+ seconds when it takes 2 seconds for your wave to disappear vs literally any character
>>544661480I get caught with the urn and it delivered it for them for freewhat now
because the other half of the comeback is farming lanes for free with your hero advantage
>>544661480If you can't swung in one teamfight after the enemy pushes and clears jungle, then that's fineBut don't be a bitch and say "there's comeback!" there's notEither you are behind and stay behind, or swungDon't be a bitch and claim both
>>544661480i remember when dota had that one patch with insane shutdown rewards that basically made lategame like thisand everyone fucking hated it
>enemy Grey Talon is raging and saying all the hooks I landed were actually misses and through walls and the game has poor coding AND I'm braindead kek
>>544661578meant for >>544661218
>>544660385well we (abrams and me also going 12/3 that game) wanted to do dupesThat’s what happens when you just want a normal deadlock game, a severely imbalanced pub match
>>544660287>hate geist's aestheticThis game isn't for you
>>544661831Geist doesn't look like that
>>544661480I don't want comeback gold and I'm okay with the winning team maintaining a lead, but this game also has a "lead can be swung in one teamfight" mechanicIt's called midbossWhoever gets it wins the game 95% of the time once you're at the 25 minute mark, regardless of game state until then
>>544661892i really wish i could understand whats going through the minds of these niggas who post goonerfied fanart of characters and pretend like it's their in-world form
>>544661892She is hot though
>>544661831WOWIE ZOWIE A HOT WOMAN? THAT'S A 10/10 ART STYLE
>>544661974why the team clearly ahead wouldn't contest a midboss
>>544661992They spend more time jerking off to porn than playing the game so they forget what the actual models look like.
>>544662089>lead can be swung in one teamfightimplies the team who took midboss won a miracle teamfight before/happened to get a strong pick, whatever, and got it
>>544661829Dupes are gay and for leaguefags thoughever
idk, I've been trying to make Mirage work but even at max stacks the damage is just underwhelming while their [insert gun carry here] melts out entire team in 3 secondsI am CDRmaxxing and it just doesn't give enough damage to prevent their mine from jumping into my face and just M1ing me down
This game is full of braindead nigger heroes. Nigfernus, monkey, doornigger, frozone etc... Shiv is ridiculous, with some spirit investment just 1 single dagger can easily do 800+ damage, and people complain about paraslut doing that with full gun investment while also scaling terribly with gun.
>>544662204so it's a comeback on paper got it, never happened. The only "comback" a moba has is praying the other team suddenly tards out
>>544662241I just wanted a single hero v hero match man. All shiv or all billy sounds fun as fuck.
>>544662241>the one thing you can do in customs outside of pubs>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOis it autism
>>544662484>all LashDING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING
>>544662556Raiva is seeker so he takes them very seriously and doesn't want to have fun.
>>544662620I'd have fun with all lash
>>544662556No it's just not fun.
>>544662310What the fuck are you saying you spastic, disingenuous cunt? The point of the original post saying>you don't want a game where a lead can be swung in one teamfightIs that you're objectively creating a hypothetical where the losing team wins a teamfight and asking what they can get off it that might put them back in the game. That's what the argument becomes based on from then on. You're saying that it's bad for the game if a losing team can instantly turn the game around by getting a single miracle teamfight. But we have exactly that right now. But you're right, it's just not a comeback mechanic, it's a meme win condition, which is even worse.
>>544662698You made me check you lying nigger. It would have been funny if true
Good morning saars, do not redeem the urn. BRAWL. DO NOT REDEEM. MADAM, BRAWL PLEASE, DO NOT REDEEM.
>>544662698yea idgi lol>no dupes>he loses>cries about his meme build teammates (one guy counterbought leech and ee on yamato since enemies stack spirit res)>le shortbus teammates>we play dupes>same thing happens anyways>seekers blame dupes for it thoughalso had a dream that a yamato kept raping me through my spirit resist stacking making me perpetually poor and unable to get spellbreaker
Honestly if you said the nword even as a joke you should get the fuck out.
>>544663471I was going to make a joke, but then I realized there's not a single character or item starting with 'N'What the fuck devs
>>544662961I thought he was actually, based off what someone else said.
>>544663471Which word?
>Final member of the team never joins the match and we just spend 5 minutes chatting about how to counter-build my hero before getting booted to the lobbyI forget how comfy it is when you don't have to worry about getting banned for banter.
Is it true she'd suck the life right out of you in more ways than one?
>>544664010the evil one>>544663780>He doesnt know about Nelson
>>544663780We need Wardens current model to be used for Nigel the Bobby.
>>544663780>Norment Pulse>Nellbreaker>Nystic Burst>Nankbusterthere's more than that too
>>544664545I'm going to shoot you with my niggerton blast
>>544664109In old ranked queue the enemy had to pause and talk about how to counter the McGinnis with 30% bullet resist 8 minutes into the match (me)
>>544664545We need a Nigger Remover item>deletes Infernus>deletes Calico>deletes WraithSuddenly the game is x100 better, hire me Yoshi
can someone slide mina panties mod
>>544665051mmm, nyo.
>>544663980he was before the rank boost
Half of the posts in this thread are coomshit that adds nothing to the discussion. I hope they never add another attractive woman, and especially no furshit
why the game keeps throwing retarded ruskies on my side and smurfs on the other, am not good enough to carry this shit
>>544665850The game thinks you're a retarded ruskie, I'm afraid
Will we ever get gun calico or yamato back?
>>544665950but I don't go 2/9 at 20minutes
>>544666035>gun yamatojust run bomb split shot
>>544665850>>544666087You sure as fuck write like one.
>>544666035gum yama is unironically good, there's a guy in top 10 that plays her all the time.
>>544666035gun yamato used to be hugeher ult gave you infinite ammo on top of full death prevention so you just got vampiric and spammed every fire rate item to kill people instantly
>win a private hard bot matchroad to eternus
>>544650367Valve has an address book full of very talented voice actors with insane vocal and emotion ranges. The work from their sound designers is also absolutely next level. To the point where some sound effects are iconic like the AWP bang. All sounds are meticulously crafted and very effective at clearly picturing what's happening in a huge gameplay mess where tons of spells or shots are thrown around. That's an insane feat. The only area where Valve is "lacking" is music, it's neither remarkable nor bad. I don't think it's as important as the rest however for a multiplayer game, as long as the music is kept sober and modest like they do.What's your favorite Valve game sound effect bros? For me it's Attack move / Force attack click aka "A" click. It's silk to my ears.
>>544667558Those are extremely easy though. You can literally 1v6 the bots
>>544667728how can you not tell that's obviously s joke?this general are extremely autistic
>>544667785Jokes are supposed to be funny lil bro, that's like the whole point of a joke.
doesnt it get boring playing mina when you auto win lane with her
>>544667712put dispenser here
>>544650367I have 700 hours in deadlock and still can't differentiate mina from ivyThe voice acting being good doesn't detract from the fact that valve is a cheap cunt and rehuses VAsLiterally what killed dota for me, like every nigger voicing like 5-6 characters,only a bit pitched down or upFuck that
>>544667712Probably the tf2 crit sound and the then trophy collector stacks.
>>544667712The sound when you jump on a metal-walkway in hl
>>544667712Have you only played Dota? Portal, HL and TF2 totally have good music
>>544668187Are you retarded? Mina and Ivy have different voice actresses
>>544668187They sound completely different, what are you talking about? I cannot comprehend your issue.
>>544667868So you're autistic and humorless then
>>544668334The Dota 2 orchestral music is also really good I don't know what anonymous is on about tb desu
>>544668381so whatthey didn't bother to give them distinct cadence, they both talk like squeaky teens
>>544668504The more likely scenario is that your joke wasn't funny.
>>544668187retard ass nigga
>>544668576They sound totally different. You might just be completely autistic
>>544668416>>544668689>>544668715they both sound like squeaky teens to meI get it if you played a lot and memorize the linesFor a new player? they sound the fucking sameAnd to me they both sound like sisters squeaky squeaking all the fucking game squeak squeak
>>544668975>For a new player>I have 700 hoursExtra chromosome enjoyer is posting in this thread
>>544668975Pro tip: the one that speaks with a heavy Spanish accent and often just straight speaks Spanish is Ivy. The one that doesn't is Mina.>For a new player? they sound the fucking sameNo they don't. This issue is exclusive to you and other people with voice deafness. Normal people can tell them apart right away.
>>544668334>>544668557I have played most of Valve's games except Team Fortress. I did not say Valve's music was bad, it's just not remarkable. Think about the all time most iconic game tracks and you should realize Valve does not have anything that can compare.
>>544668975You just know this is the same nigger who claims all anime girls sound the same which is why the prefers to watch dubs
>>544667712bro valve has some of the best soundtrackswell, at least everything besides dota2 and CS do (never played dota, only played CS1.6)
>>544668187The only ones I mix up are Vyper and Savannah
>>544665173pleaaase
>>544669423https://gamebanana.com/mods/626538
>>544668187>*angry random spanish noises*>"is this mina?"
>>544668975they sound very differentivy sounds kind of like a moron and very grounded, mina sounds like the most evilest vilest piece of human garbage whore that has ever existed
>>544669852>*squeaks in spanish*
>be pocket>most bvroken spirit nuker in the game>build gun
>>544670104third highest dps
>>544659981what games were you pro in?
>>544670104his gun is good still wouldn't build anything but spirit
>>544670104>most broken spirit nuker in the gamenot even close especially when every game has multiple silence waves get out of alchemist lil nigga
how the fuck is metro eternushis gameplay looks so much worse than eidorian and that other streamer that plays viscous
Okay so what is capacitor good for? I learned it can remove barriers which is great in the current meta but what else?
>>544667728YOU can literally 1v6 the bots
>>544670453Damage? Every gun carry is going to build spirit items and get the shop boost
>>544670453Literally any buff someone has, seven surge, ivy tether, billy bottle, bridge buffs, anything
>>544670431that guy just abused broken as fuck heroes (wraith before her ult got nerfed like five times now) and got high rank this way, you dont really drop down in rank once you reach a threshold i thinkwhen you compare his movement to other players like hoot or deathy he looks like a bot lmao
>>544667712valve soundtracks are extremely good, they're just understated and utilitarian during gameplay
>>544667712Deadlock definitely surprised me at how good the directional sound isFrom bullets whizzing over your head to followign the footsteps of an enemy in the jungle
>>544670431You can get carried to Eternus by a team of good players, and then you sit there forever picking up good habits
>>544670818every time he gets billy he chainfeeds in lane so much it's actually funnypretty sure he's only playing billy cause he's a gigantic furry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWXy13QvADchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zuJiXkBIdM*crack**siiiiiiiiiip*iconic
>>544667712>>544671574Dota has the same sound design. I can tell you exactly what's happening on screen without even watching. Every character has unique sound effects, attack sounds, and it has fucking directional sound. Best sound effect from dota is actually Global Silence from silencer. A loud echoy voice booms "SILENCE" and the map goes completely quiet. There's nothing like it in any other game. The silence is so loud it gives me goosebumps every time.
>>544670104>>most bvroken spirit nuker in the game
>>544660110She is about as useful as her lane retard.
>>544662008why did they turn her into bbw
>>544672489>bbware you retarded
>>544672489>Geist is a bbwoh no no american xisters
>pick mirage>buy green items>have a great timeFOR THE DJINNNNN
>>544670431I think his aim/tracking is really good and he unironically makes decent space pressuring lanes/objectives. there is a big gap from eternus him to eternus eido/Zerggy/hoot etc thoughbeit
>>544672787>no carpet
>>544670431stacking. any retard can climb if they have good players on the team
>>544670431unlike you, he never plays aloneBeing the weak link in a party of good players is not the same as being the weak link in a party of random players
>>544670431To be fair to him he never really parties at all, only sometimes plays with one of his groupies who babysits him on viscous
Why do Mirage players act like they're utterly invincible in lane? Actually, a lot of characters act like that, like, no matter how much damage they take, they win.
>metro guide>explained nicely and in depth, all smiles and consideration>metro stream>antifun asshole
>>544672787why no qsr? what do you do in teamfights, reload?
you guys act like the shit streamers say alone in their room behind their monitor without activating their mic or typing in game chat is going directly into the ears of everyone in the matchstop being pussies
>>544674143his builds suck so i imagine his guides also suck
>>544674143He's a faggot but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that streaming a moba game 24/7 would make you insane. The average Moba player would make anyone reasonable crash out.
>>544674349what the fuck are you talking about
>>544674349Post zhe metro clips
>>544674143>>544674349Literally this
>>544674349mr metro gets on mic to cry and complain all the time. Curious that he's totally silent when he's dropping another 2 15 when i get stuck with him on my team though
>>544674182>buying dps items it's a trap. all you need is ricochet and to survive until they're full stacked. reloading doesn't even matter on mirage because his reload time is shorter than the stack timer>what do you do in teamfightsI run into the enemy and get shot until the djinn claims them
Metro has more hours in vrchat on his alt than he does on deadlock.
I'm at Emissary and every Billy I've seen has been fucking awful. Doesn't matter what team, the only time they're even remotely useful is when they build green and just don’t feed for once.
I'm at Emissary and every Billy I've seen has been fucking awesome.Doesn't matter what team, the only time they're even remotely useless is when they build green and just don't feed for once.
>>544646108horrible builds and him being a m1gger that relies on macro to get results, most m1ggers are bad at macro so they drag mirage down, you need a mix of aim and brains to get results so he appeals and is played by the wrong people
it's so funny how any_ rank players spend more time tilting their own teammates than tilting the enemy team because they all think they're the one person on the team who never makes mistakes
At work so I can't check, but is there an all random option for in houses? Seems like a fun alternative to the norm without doing gay shit like dupes.
>>544675279billy is unironically worthlesshe does zero damage and feeds constantly, but he;s such a retard magnet that he sometimes contributes by tempting the opponent with retarded teamfights that they eventually lose
Metro had a pretty funny stream yesterday where he constantly consulted chatgpt for game advice, highly recommed putting it in the background
>>544675938some mistakes are worse than othersYou not helping a dude that was near you because you were locked in your farm is a small mistakeA fight going on on green walker, while yellow walker is being pushed by 1 dude, and you just spawn and want to fight so you take the green line and leave yellow to go down is a big mistake
>>544658087yeah, resistances get absolutely demolished late game by shred options, they just are not a good solution to gun damage, and even worse, capacitor means the actual counterplay doesnt exist either, defensive itemization is definitely the biggest problem in the game right now
>>544658541everything you named except curse, warpstone and jugg is dogshit and you are throwing if you buy themand jugg/warpstone/curse are good because they are also universally applicable itemsanti-gun items are just complete dogshit
>>544676832There's nothing wrong with disarming hex niggerWhat's wrong is being able to be dispelled by debuff remover
>>544667712>valve music >not remarkabledawg what? most of TF2's soundtrack (especially the older tracks, like Right Behind You, Rocket Jump Waltz, Intruder Alert, Drunken Pipe Bomb and both A Little Heart to Heart and MEDIC!) are extremely memorable, to the point where there's probably more people who recognize moments from those tracks than there are people who've ever actually touched that game, same with the most popular tracks from HL/HL2.As for my favourite sound effects, it's probably old Medusa ult (before it was lazily looped/extended), Mars' arena and the death jingle from Dota. Oh and the TF2 crit sound, of course.
>>544676539now explain how calling your team retards and raging is more helpful than just recognising shit happens sometimes and making a call on how to play off of itgetting mad over misplays every single game is choosing to tilt yourself and your team and it's fucking stupid
>>544677203oh and *meep merp*
>>544676052his ult is great at killing heroes with movement abilities, im having a good time cause i can apply a spiky bat to minas terrified face when she presses 2 and nothing happens
How do you fix Counterspell so that it doesnt shit on Lash specifically
>>544677356>OUHK-- shoom, shoom, shoom, shoom
>>544670431we just dont know
>>544677132which is why you buy cursecurse also prevents them from pressing any get-out-of-jail for free buttonshex is one of the worst items in the game
does slowing bullets mystic slow make sense on infernus
>>544677497Doesnt counter abilities that deal 0 damage
>>544677497You probably can't without scrapping the item or giving it an immense cooldown that makes it not worthwhile.Better question: How do you make Lash worthwhile to play while taking into consideration how easy it is to counter him?
>>544677702no
>>544666035Is this a Manta Style Yamato? Horrifying
>>544677497make lash able to delay stomp and slightly move in the air while doing so
>>544677497No more countering ults.
They need to revert the last Lash nerfs and also look into his grapple. It needs some sort of spirit scaling element to it, and the T3 needs to be reworked.
>>544667712I love the choose/unchoose hero sounds, that clicking is just right. Dota2 has incredible ability sounds mixed in with the stock sounds for the old heroes, was always funny to me. Shadow Fiend got the best voice and sfx in my opinion.And speaking of music, here I go listening to this on repeat again:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-GU4jvSvz4
>>544678126>and also look into his grapple. It needs some sort of spirit scaling element to it, and the T3 needs to be reworked.agreed although i did like gun lash back then, it's almost impossible to make it because his gun is burst fire so fire rate is 100% worthless on himhis 2's third upgrade might actually be the most worthless third upgrade in the game
>>544676083I watched it for all of 2 minutes before I developed a headache but I did catch this one clipworthy momenthttps://files.catbox.moe/71pawa.mp4
>>544677323Calling retard on your teammate because they let you die is not helpfulCalling retard on your teammate because they let a walker die for free is for me, not them.5 or 10 of the first mistake don't throw the game and you can recover3 of the other mistakes throw the game, the game is gg and it's pretty much doneI'm insulting them because they cost me the game, and I have to sit for 10 extra minutes to play something else, but this game is over.
warp stone veil walker billythink about it
>>544678521>billy>thinkno
>>544669341>all anime girls sound the sameNTA but they do and their voices are horrendous. They all look the same too
>>544670104more like >be doorman>>544672071>Best sound effect from dota is actually Global Silence from silencerBased. It even silvences the casters during pro play streams.
>>544677497Nothing wrong with sacrificing some money and a whole slot to counter a hero retard
>>544678126grapple should have some sort of physics interaction, like a soft tether that slows you 2 down but lets you superjump as normal if you rubber band yourself
>unfunny retard pauses the game 4 minutes in to type "guardian backshots???" because my doorman lane partner used his portal to shoot the guardianfor every 1 time someone has a legitimate good reason to pause there's 99 times they pause for bullshit like this
>>544678491you're the same MMR as your teammates, give or takethere are a million optimisations every player is hedging into or againstsometimes teammates leaving you to die is a genuine mistake, but sometimes it means you overextendedsometimes the team failing to save a tower is a genuine mistake, but instead of showing up to waste your time showing up to fail to defend it solo or doing a shitty cope junglefarm to also fail to equalise the advantage you could have grouped with your team and made a brool push to at least get half of something meaningful out of the macro mistakeit takes so much energy to get mad about this shit and it doesn't actually matteraccepting that shit happens in a game this complicated and playing into the chaos, instead of trying to drag the level of play into the next skill bracket by sheer force of will and reporting the other 5 players when it doesn't work, will win you more games and make you a better team player and you'll have a better time doing it no matter how badly games might go
>>544679210I was that doorman and I invented that move
>>544679210sorry I thought everyone would laugh and be my friend
>>544677497Remove the big purple triangle that shows up on lash 1
>>544678521only heavy melee, no think
>>544679163How are you "sacrificing" 3k if you counter a whole character retard
>>544679210soul
every match is a stompflip this shit game
>>544679389That item is worth more than your character and your life, deal with it. Same with slowing hex vs Calico or Knockdown vs Vind.
>>544679389any deviation from a static build is a sacrifice because every person in every match is the main character
>>544679305You are objectively wrongA hot mistake is forgivableA cold mistake, like being dead, that you have NOTHING else to do, and deciding to go fish assists or just engage with the fun fun fights, instead of going to defend a walker is notAnd like I said. It throws the game. You cannot recover from that cold mistake, that you had time to brew on and you could see it in your map for 30 seconds doing nothing else but think where you are going nextWhen you take 30 seconds, and make the mistake that throws the game, you are objectively entitled to be shat on
is there a way to check what skill other players leveled at lvl 1?
>>544679210gonna do this next inhouse
>>544679654>make genuine mistake>teammate rages at me>start second guessing myself and play worse because of it because i don't want to make him even more mad and throw the entire team off even more>make another mistake because i'm tilted>teammate rages again>whole team is demoralised now>entire team makes mistakes now>loseyour mindset manufactures more lost games than you could ever imagine
>>544679210I was in a lobby where a guy paused to tuck his youngest into bed and no one unpaused until he was back.
>>544680162YOUR MISTAKE ALREADY KILLED THE GAMEYESTHAT'S WHY I'M MADIt DOESN'T MATTER how you play after thatThe game is overKilling the Patron is just a formality, when you made that mistake I already know you won't do what's needed to winYou are talking as if the game is recoverableWhat I'm talking about is when the game is over (but we still playing because there's no surrender)
>>544680341>tilting the teammates who are going to end up in the same queue as you againgetting mad at your teammates is the most counterproductive thing you can possibly do in this gameyou are the architect of your own misery and you will literally win more games and have more fun if you chill the fuck out lmao
Inhouse when?
>>544680795JS0M9JS0M9JS0M9
hi /dlg/today I'm going to be better at deadlockwhen will there be a sword & board-type hero btw?
>>544681279Little early man doubt it will fill>>544681363Abrams
>>544680689>>544680689>>544680689>is the most counterproductive...You still talking like thatYou still talking like the game isn't overI'm raging at you because the game is over (but I have to keep playing till the fucking Patron is down)
>>544681363Well they gave Lash+yamato a gun so likely never.>>544681435I just play other stuff in the background.
>>544681614stay losing because you tilt your team faggot
>>544677497Namely, lash should bait it out.Ideally, Lash's ult should go through BKB.
How do you use counterspell btw? Does it only work on targeted spells or can you just throw out in the middle of a team fight and something will proc it?
>>544678004>No more countering ults.
>>544682193>retard who would rather get mad at every opportunity and can't understand that tilted teammates play worse is a racistpottery
>Gets challenged at bridge buff>Runs, escapes>Turns back around looking to fight Calico while on 290 HP>Dies>Immediately opens mic: TEAMMMMMM WHY ARENT YOU HELPING ME???>Spends the entire rest of the game not playing, ends at 2500 hero damage because he gave up after this death, all while arguing with the rest of the team on mic"Ascendant" (Emissary 1 month ago) rank is full of faggots who make plays like this and then somehow make it the team's fault.
>>544682123I think I counterspelled infernus passive in an inhouse once by accident so it seems like literally anything.
>>544682473wraith name? I might have played against them.
>>544682642
>>544682702Well at least they lived up to their name! I've played against a lot of wraiths that are retarded, she seems a magnet for those types.
>lane partner that just kills himself and complains you didn't engage with him>lane partner that goes box farming after getting dying once
>>544682920>lane partner that goes box farming after getting dying onceWhat is wrong with this if they catch the wave?
are there any console commands to show my world position and velocity in the HUD?
>>544683049>if they catch the wave?
>>544683156ah I see the problem...
>>544682920>lane partner who leaves me to 2v1 then seethes on 4chan after we lose lane
>lane partner that receives positive reinforcement after a lucky parry into double kill and begins dying on cooldown trying to replicate the high
>>544682473there is zero reason to take this pathing back to lane if you know calico was already at bridge buff, the mind of wraith tards is truly an enigma
>>544680237I was in a lobby where we were losing and someone left because their kid woke up and everyone on our team said dont bother pausing and then when he came back we were in the process of losing and our gt said he was probably a deadbeat anyways and should uninstall
>lane partner that proposes to you after you get ults and then you both disconnect to have sex
capacitor only removes buffs if they were applied in the past 2 seconds, fair change?this item is still stupid after it got slapped.
Is gunman the best way to play doorman?
>>544683460tag?
>>544606878half of these are wildly off base and you clearly just put whatever characters you think are cool in the "Uses 4chan" category. >Drifter wouldn't be online>Haze would have restricted social media because of her job. Maybe twitter>Lash is a narcissist and so would probably be on insta or tiktok>Viscous would not be on 4chan at all. He'd probably be on reddit because it shows up in google results when you're looking stuff up.>Doorman would probably be offline.Vyper and Warden might use 4chan but that's it. Maybe Victor
>>544679305>
>>544683460You main Paige don't you?
I feed a lot when we’re already getting stomped. When that happens, I start taking risky plays to turn it around, but my team keeps playing it safe. I’ll dive an objective, engage, get a couple low, but I'm alone and that was for nothing.If someone gets ganked on our jungle, I rush to help since it’s "home advantage", but everyone just keeps doing their own thing and we die anyway.I know I’m probably the issue but turtling when we’re losing feels submissive, just hoping for one good team fight usually isn’t enough to flip the game.Ritualist btw.
>>544683746No its a bit of a meme im afraidThe best is just playing utility but that requires teammates
>>544683914>He unironically thinks a fed isn't on 4chan
>>544684080well, she's a female, so she probably would be on a podcast talking about how much of a slut she is just to bait some incels into shooting a schoolimagine bimbo haze talking about hating manlets
>>544683917>getting mad at low rank teammates because the matchmaker created the problem
>>544684268I didnt get mad at anyone, Im am simply displaying that matchmaking is a shitshowand yes that match was torture because the enemy team(probably a stack) realized I was the only relevant player and fully hatecrimed me while taking 50 minutes to end
>>544683917Is this why I've went up a crazy amount of divisions past few days?
>>544684389fairit's just another case where getting mad does less than nothing
>Enemy Mina emerges from farming being a million souls ahead of everyone and starts turning people to pasteHow does ones stop this?
>>544685043ENTER
what rank do you need to be where you can play Holliday and not get AIDS
Delete this fucking reddit nigger with hecking kitty kitty purr purr :3 from the game
>>544685043Tell the enemy team you're jacking off and every kill they get is helping you finish
>>544685043You counter a Mina just by buying a single spirit resist item. At least you don't have to kill through two whole healthbars plus whatever disgusting late game bullshit victor does with infuser.
>>544685235Hmmm?
>>544685043its really more like>game starts>mina starts turning people into paste
>>544682423AHAHAHAHdid you report me for racism? I got a warningAre you a janny here? Jesus christ, what a life>Be a baby on deadlock>Be a snitch rat on 4chan of all placesAHAHDHSLiterally dying here, thanks for the laugh chap
>>544685332Show the post i missed the drama
>>544685263> a single spirit resistlollmao even
How do you even play Abrams from behind? I feel victimized on this hero more than any other hero in the game whenever my team is losing a bit
>>544685332Now type that without crying
>>544685043Ideally the smarter team should/will be ganking jungles to delay the carries. People are stupid and only ever farm alone, thinking that's somehow ideal, in belief that colored lines on the minimap serve as some sort of invisible force barrier that prevents enemies from walking past them.
>>544686228GOODLORD
>>544685981Keep buying tank items until morale improves. Hopefully you can waste your opponents time attacking you long enough for your teammates to capitalize on the opportunity.
>>544685332Nvm checked the archive, how boring. I can't imagine being so much of a pussy faggot that you'd waste the effort reporting that message. Literal nothingburger
>>544685981Abrams is one of few heroes that can still deal huge damage despite being behind on souls (unless you are a retard running a spirit build).The real challenge from playing Abrams comes from the fact that you need teammates to capitalize on your openings, which will never happen as they will never trust you because you are not their discord duo
>>544686228she can suck my life anytime...also how is geist so fun
>>544685332?
>Vindicta was a child when they condemned her>She somehow aged into an adult woman
>>544686875>no hero that is both cute and funny
>>544686875a Loli would be too powerful for valve, honestly I hope they just retcon that bit so her lore makes sense.
>>544686573>(unless you are a retard running a spirit build).But Im Witchmailpilled and my ultimate has a huge radius now?
>>544686875have you maybe considered that some years could have passed since she was revived
>>544670431He abuses the rank gain buff on inactive accounts, plus stacking offstream.Rises to Eternus, stops stacking for the stream, switches account when needed.
>>544687062Ghost dont fucking age
Mina and Paige if they cute and funny
>>544670431he gets paid to play deadlock
>>544687471NOW SEND THEM TO DRIFTER
>>544687471>Only here to protect kidsWhy do I get a sneaking suspicion that that is not the case due to the author needing to mention it...
>>544687284Why are you replying to me about this?
>>544686875>killed when shes 16>calls herself a child >just looks like a petite woman
>>544687253Is there proof he stacks off stream? Because he constantly eats shit solo queueing
>>544685043>Phantom Strike>Slowing Hex>Q
>>544670431I only have 80 hours in this game but I feel like the level of play is currently so abysmally low that getting to eternus is a matter of playtime more than anything else
>>544687806Anon, he's an adult trick or treating. That's the weird part.
>>544686228>offmodel>fatmeh art
>>544688356It really isn't when you have younger family.
This Victor character is fucked up
>>544687471Both should be ground into a fine paste
>>544688569Yeah he should wear a coat or something, its cold in NY
>>544688546Yes, and do you think the adult is there to trick or treat because he's trick or treating or because he has two idiot retard children to supervise?
>>544681363God she's so beautiful
>>544688830>Everyone questions Kelvin wearing a parka>It's coldwhich saar
>>544620643just get hollow point and crippling headshot dawg
>>544688925You do know the difference between the arctic and NY right?
>>544688925Why is the map so spooky right now anyway?
It's probably 55 degrees in Deadlock
>>544687591this. Absolute Drifter bait. Needs bloodscent correct
>>544689108No I have never been to either of them
I wish the pumpkins were year round, I like smashing them.
>>544688335this is still not funny
>>544689523it's funny that it's upsetting you
>>544689523>Noooo you can't counter my hero!!!! Not with 10k souls spent!!
>>544689523Honestly agree. Getting annoying "dark woke" retards in my game seething about Charlie kirk or israel, getting faggots making light of the animal abuse is tiring. I just came here to play a game keep your retarded ecelebs and politics to yourself.
>>544689523I laugh everytime.
>>544689878Now its just sad!>>544689970Im talking about image
>>544689523it's extremely funny now that we know it was a psyop
>>544690127They didn't actually use knockdown on the dog it's just an edited photo
>>544690389I just don't find it amusing. The one thing /we/ have always had in common on this site is that we don't like animal abusers. Xitter overflows and other tourists don't belong here if they think otherwise.
>>544690995Yes but that's just an edited image the dog isn't actually being hit on the head with an anvil
>>544689523*zaps you*
>>544690995I don't think anyone here likes Hasan, The image is lampooning him as an animal abuser That said I can understand having a negative reaction to that depiction
>>544688089Statlocker shows a fair amount of duos and a smaller amount of larger stacks on some of his accounts. However, that site does not record all matches. Nevertheless, on the account he's playing right now about 20% of his games are duos or larger stacks.You only really need to win your first game after a period of inactivity in order to get back to your old rank, and then 4-5 games until the mmr change buff wears off. Even a duo could guarantee that, and if it fails he has numerous accounts to try with a larger stack.
>>544688335this is still really funny
>>544690995No one is endorsing animal abuse ya crybaby.
>This is my team mate Bebop's build at the end of the 38 minute gameHe didn't even finish upgrading his 1. We won, but still.
>>544691508based and you're gay if you think otherwise
>>544691417>I don't think anyone here likes Hasanh-haha yeah that's for sure
>>544691650>h-haha
>>544691650he's obnoxious, shills for democrats, and is not a serious socialist, so while I would never watch any of his shit he is still more correct than most of you people who are still hung up about women or black people and other trivial shit like that instead of the rich
>ivy pushes me in my shop>I luggage cart her under my guardian>she abandons haha
>>544692134He had a melty last week screaming how much he hates the left and hates socialism and hates streaming and hates his ideals though. He doesn't even believe the shit he peddles.
>>544689108you do realize seasons and temperature changes right?
>>544692134>hung up about women or black people and other trivial shit like that instead of the richYou can hate all 3 anon.
>>544692134The rich as a collective are more moral than socialists as a collectiveThey acquired their wealth through consensual transactions and the socialists strategy is literally theft by state
I reached Alchemist today
>>544691508holy based
>>544692134>bohooo my ecelep billionaire waifu just got pwned by the evil racists and sexists on 4chinThe shock collar incident highlighted so many shitters its ureal, thank god it happened, makes identifying retards online much easier.>>544692217My best moment as a Doorman is sending an ulting Warden in the Baroness 3 teamfights in a row (was saving ult just for him) and he went afk.
>>544682473wraithbros are we retarded?
>>544692813t. billy>>544692903idk how you can unironically believe capitalism is consensual given the long history of violence against worker movements, not to mention literal invasions against socialist countries on the opposite side of the planet.
>>544693062Good job anon, keep improving.
I'm actually gonna have a fucking aneurysm.>Winning most of the game>In last ditch effort Lash and Dynamo both buy Refresher>Ping BOTH of these purchases>Already have knockdown, cuck him out of his first ult easily during final push>The entire team then get hits by the 2nd one>Haze, the only fucking damage dealer on the team out of FOUR that can aim, goes >"Was that a last second refresher buy?"I'm seriously gonna kill someone holy fuck I can't play support with these fucking retards anymore
>>544693062dump eet
>>544692903>defund the education system>depress wages so everyone needs three jobs just to rent an apartment>overworked underpaid retards can't grasp the systems they make their decisions in or what their secondary effects are>"we obtained consent"wait a sec>"they obtained consent"there we go
>>544693404don't ping. use your mic.
>>544693445>>depress wages so everyone needs three jobs just to rent an apartmentthe entire western left support this btw
>>544693728the right want to import them as temporary workers instead of citizens so they can't unionise or advocate for themselves
>>544693723>implying supportsissies use mics
>>544693723>use mic and speak english>the 4 or 5 Russians on my team take offence and decide that playing to win is no longer an option
>>544693336Violence against thieves is morally justified>>544693445Nice fanfic cope, in reality you are the useful idiot Lenin was talking about
>>544693883I'm a support main and I use my mic every game. Sometimes I get complimented on my callouts then feel awkward because I can never tell if I'm being annoying or helpful
how much power/health/damage do little buffs you get from boxes and the sinner slot machine add up to in the long run?
>>544694253>get subsidies>build monopolistic corporate empire>get more subsidies>get tax breaks>get more subsidies>"taxation is theft"
>>544693728when you mean democrats or liberals just say that. don't use euphemisms like "western left" to weasel around.>>544694253your money is stolen every time you clock in to work, my friend. you just can't see it.
>>544694401open a replay and check your shop tabs right before it ended.
>>544694718>>544694718>>544694718>>544694718
>>544694404>>544694423There is literally dozens of air tight arguements against your retardation but the moral one is my favorite because it cuts right to the heart of the motte and bailey you've been trained to parrotNot only are you utopian and suicidally idealistic, devoid of any practicality or sense, you are also a bad person.
>>544694838justify how capitalists deserves the lion's share of profit for doing no work. you know, morally.
>>544694423This night really just posted the labor theory of value That shit was debunked by both sides a century ago
>>544693402Thanks man, I'm working on it. It feels amazing to get better at Deadlock. This game is SICK. >>544693423It's okay if it goes down. I feel like matchmaking is a bit like that. Sometimes you get a red page despite your best efforts and the next is full green.
>>544695026>the labour theory of value is wrong because capitalist armies won WW2ok
>>544695026the specifics of the LTV don't relate to the general premise that you are doing the work yet your boss is stealing the profits, which is what you are defending for some bizarre reason.
>>544694978Take a finance class retard, that's called financial risk and its justly compensatedCope with another anecdote,im done rolling in the mud with you
>>544695237Read a paper brainlet there is literal mountains of literature on why you specifically are retarded.
>>544695412>muh riskthe risk of failing is...... you go broke and need to get a job like all your workers!and in reality, when a capitalist fails they just have a golden parachute or some savings and are fine, while a worker needs to find a job quickly or they risk being evicted
>>544695557there's literal mountains of literature extolling the successes of the winners in capitalist societies and the relative uplift the worker peons get off the backs of globalist exploitation of resources that really want me to not think about externalities too hard, sure
>play Paradox>win>play Holliday>loseI don't get itI do more damage, get more picks, everything as HollidayYet I only ever win as ParadoxWHY
>>544693445>defund the education systemthe same one that has ballooned in expenditures whilst seeing worse and worse results?>depress wages so everyone needs three jobs just to rent an apartmentcongress and the fed?
>>544697109>the same one that has ballooned in expenditures whilst seeing worse and worse results?the one whose raw costs go up because the population gets larger but whose per-student funding falls because of rightwing cuts? yeah, that one>congress and the fed?the ones who get paid by corporations to pass legislation without reading it, which corporations write for them in private think tanks, which are staffed by their friends? yeah, those guysnext you're going to call me a retarded democrat as though i don't think the democratic party has also been completely captured by corporate interests since like the 70s or early 80s
>>544696889silence + travel time for your allies to do damage is better than just lasso I guess.
>>544697660>per-student funding fallsnope>the ones who...actually hold the power to dole out favors and to print money and devalue the currency and manipulate interest rates> retarded democratjust a retarded socialist
>>544696889>Play Seven>Single-handedly win multiple teamfights>Lose game>Play Paige>Single-handedly shut down three enemy ultimates every fight>Lose game>Play Kelvin>Just make sure the retards on my team are 80% health instead of 40% health when they go in>Win gameIt's like people are so unaware about their own healthbar, that making good plays doesn't matter one bit. Don't even get me started on win lane = win game.
>>544681614>>544682193>>544685332Nta, but if someone starts crying/complaining to/at me in lane I just mute them. Often enough I end up playing much better than them anyway.
>>544688569Have you anon, wondered if his creator searched for the biggest and best dick he could for Victor or is he a ken doll?
>>544704965i feel like my left arm belonged to a piccolo player and my right arm belonged to a man nicknamed johnny sausagepenis
I made a smurf c:
>>544688569I do like the idea of his character. I want to guess that Frankenstein is 100% canon and happened 1 to 1, but "Victor" only woke up during the first maelstrom, a spirit possessing the monster's body that didn't have a mind of his own.Also, why the fuck is his arm blue? Like, it has tattoos but then is also just fully blue.
>>544695412justice is a spookit just describes coherence under a given ruleset and system. of course it's just for a miser to disproportionately profit off the labor of others, the rules are designed for and to theman argument needs which seeks to dilineate right from wrong needs to be based on something other than justice. otherwise you're moralizing, not making any true points on what's for the best
How should this game succeed when nobody even knows how to play the game?
>>544696889The sheriff can't carry to save her life
