Trick or Treat Smell Feet or Give Me Something Good To Eat Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2025-update.87198/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlock: >>544603196
How do I stop exploding late game as Drifter. Had a 40 minute match and I couldn't do anything with my damage without their Victor, Holliday, or Infernus just turning me to dust
You think you're so smart? Prove it. Place 1 character in a tier or move a character up or down 1 tier. Show me what heros /dlg/ thinks are actually good.
>>544695087more damage and better positioning
>>544695087Nothing. From what I'm reading here they probably had the better draft.
>>544695087sounds like three spirit characters killed you also, drifter has shit scaling compared to most of the cast and should be build strictly as a gun carry
SEX WITH BNNUY DOORMAN
warp stone veil walker billythink about it
>>544695139YamatoF teirIts all otp, they immediately cope by bringing up punching midboss like everyone cant do that
>apex devs added in deadlock movement techgame is already inspiring huge released titles and it's not even out of alpha
>>544695139>S TierAbrams because I like him
>>544695139S teir dynamoBlack hole win gameShrimple as
>>544695708Gun Yamato is actually broken if you don't use the FOV mod. Her right click on you with splitshot makes it so you can't fucking see shit. 1600 soul drifter ult.>>544695835What movement tech
>>544695139billy in S tier because he'll bully me if i put him lower
>>544695139Mina d teir46%
>>544696451You're joking but I feel like he's pretty unappreciated. A fed Billy can basically 1 v 11 games if he builds properly to cuck the enemy carries.
>>544695835interesting
>>544695139With this distribution the list is shaping up nice and balanced we can expect 80% of the cast to be S tier
>>544696753he has insane CC and teamfight but he requires a lot of coordination that usually isn't there in pubs and that deadlock fundamentally makes very slightly more difficult than he'd like because of all the insane movement tech and verticalityin my heart he's an S but realistically i think he's more of an A
>laning against abrams/billy>teammate doesn't know how to parryinstant game loss
>>544696920Geist C
>>544696870>It's afraid!
>>544696920>non-humans and barafaggotry top tierthe mentallly ill are so predictable
>>544696350>Her right click on you with splitshot makes it so you can't fucking see shitalso has the hidden effect of nuking your fucking gpu. Everytime she does it to me my framerate tanks.
>>544696870Is this goatse?
>>544696350>the FOV modi thought FOV was completely locked down
>>544697976You can manually change it in the config files, presumably they'll lock it eventually but for now it's open.
>>544696920Warden c
>bebop named "5 Subhumans in Team" has some sort of disagreement with Sinclair (according to sinclair it's because helped him with creeps)>bebop says nothing and spam clicks the map and proceeds to grief all game>hooking teammates, running around in the enemy jungle doing nothing and basically AFKingSeriously draining my will to live this game. How can some people be so easily tilted into griefing.
>>544698741do griefing reports do anything in deadlock? people like that shouldn't even be in an alpha test at all
>>544696870>>544695835Kek they aren't even hiding it. There are a lot of naysayers about Deadlock but I just do not see this game not going big. It sets a new bar in the realm of competitive games. I've never played one this intense and satisfying. It's videogame crack.
>>544698741Not defending him but I did lowkey lose my shit at my teammates the other night. >me How the fuck can you retards come out of lane 0-7 0-9 and ZERO AND TWELVE >SevenSorry for having a bad game it's not that serious >me Why do you motherfuckers always have a BAD game when you're on my team Realistically he was right. It's just 1 bad game for them, but for me this was a 6 loss streak with the same lane rape happening outside of my own lane every match. Sometimes it's a build up of shit.
>>544696920Billy down to a teir for being a poser
>>544696920ESL
>Mina Haaaaaaaa
INHOUSE??????????????
>>544696920Dynamo is not S tier man.
>another holiday game where it takes me 35 minutes to rember I have an ultCan holiday get reworked plsI rather ult just refresh my barrel charges
>>544699931unironically what is the counterplay here
>>544699931
>>544699931>this kills the leaguefag>500+ buff mina remove actives posts on the discord/forum
>>544700508Rebuttal hard counters melee retards and its only 800
>>544696920First demotion to Billy>>544699856Oh please I barely speak English as a first language. Imagine being bilingual when we're slowly forcing the world to conform.
>>544700508Don't be alone. Look up while you're doing shit and you'd have seen that coming. Abrams is a knowledge check character who punishes stupidity.
what are other characters like haze? I like her because it feels like she scales while also not being useless in lane unlike wraith for example, and I can always pivot into a ganking/assassin role after lane if I want to. She feels very strong and flexible but I don't want to be a one-trick...
>>544700508Don't be 5k souls behind a hungry Abrams
>>544700790infernus
>>544700557Doesn't happen to dynamo, just saying, so hes at least a teir higher
>>544700645Holliday bounce padding her way to the purple section at the top
>>544700645Put Abrams in F because that's the key that counters him
>>544700508You don't disrespect the Abrams like that and immediately dash away.
>>544700508run away from the abrams
>>544700612when did she have the opportunity to parry?
>>544700508Buy reactive barrierCongratulations Abrams will never be able to one shot you again
>>544700612Retard alert>>544700508Don't be within 25 meters of an Abrams that has Phantom Strike when you are a lone squishyIf Abrams has no Phantom Strike then Mina can just bully him from height and there is literally nothing he can do about it
>>544700508>reactive barrier>even the slightest bit of awareness and dashing awayMina has TWO i-frame dodges that can deflect both phantom strike and charge.
>>544701508true, he needs to shoot you 1 more time
>>544701696If you give an Abrams not one, but two opportunities to shoulder charge you as Mina you should frankly uninstall the game
who do I play if wraith sucks and I can't take it anymore?
>>544701823get better because wraith is goodbut infernus is the best M1 bar none
i am really looking forward to how they're going to update guardians, walkers, and neutrals
>>544701932still waiting for the potted plant neutrals...
>>544700612>>544700780>>544700823>>544701313>>544701349>>544701508>>544701530>>544701656Guys I was joking please stop replying to me I'm trying to game
is spirit shielding good?
>>544701901>wraith is good
>>544701823>>544702245Getting real tired of these Metro dicksuckers pushing that Wraith is bad when her winrate is higher than all other gun carries minus seven and haze, who are 1% off
>>544701742This would've been perfectif he died at the end as well
If you watch streamers you need to off yourself
>>544702245wraith is the highest wr on ladder btw you fucking delusional metro dicksuck
inhouse3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW
>>544702510so you're saying seven is better than infernus?
>>544701742me irl
>4 game loss streak>greeted with this next gameProbably the most unfair nigger draft I've ever fucking seen. Was this, even for a second, even remotely winnable?
>>544701748He sait shoot, not charge...
>>544703017you have an insane early game literally brool and push to win
>no halloween ctf game mode ala diretideit's dead jim
>>544703017Abrams and Mina should've been able to carry you as long as mid didn't hyper über feed ivy and haze (they hyper über fed ivy and haze)
>>544703017you guys both have 1 troll hero each i dont see the problem
>>544703017>every major ability on their team is countered by one itemGo my child, you know what you must do
>>544703313they can't even put diretide up more than once every 5 years, why would you expect their heavily indev secret playtest to have an event?
>spectate game>randomly slows down to like 1/4 speed???
JOIN THE INHOUSE3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW
>>544703660that was happening to me earlier i think the deadlock broadcast network is fucked
>>544703735I got raids tonight or I would. We doing some on the weekend right?
>>544703017if you get gigafarmed and dynamo hits one lucky hole and doorman gets rid of their most valuable player and bepop hits a perfect hook all in one teamfight then maybe you win this
>>544699931Ok, now do it when she's 5k ahead of you.Please, I mean it actually, fucking kill her.
AND FOR MY NEXT TRICK...
CAM ON FAGS WE ALREADY AT 7/12 JOIN INHOUSE3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW>>544703937every day bro except when we don't
I MADE A SMURF! c:
>HOW ARE WE BEING KILLED BY AN IDIOT WITH A GOAT HEAD???
So, in what situations or what characters would prefer using Fury Trance over Vampire Burst? And vice Versa, because I've typically been preferring Vamp quite a bit. The heal can be nice sustain and extra ammo is great. Meanwhile, despite it being a whole 40% resist, I can never find it doing a lot and having your stamina locked kinda sucks. And you don't get bonus ammo and can't use QSR with it active.
YEEESSS VINDICTA, SUCK THEM OFF ONE BY ONE
What are people's thoughts on veil walker? I like it but I feel like it doesn't address Drifter's core issues. Is it a meme item?
3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW9/12 slots
>>544706929its only use is raping people in the jungle or doing a surprise initiationkind of a meme item after the nerf
>>544706929What are his core issues in the context of Veil walker exactly?
3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW10/12 slots
>>544706929I like to go Shadow Weave, the extra buffs feel like they have a lot more synergy on Drifter
>>544706726it's a spirit damage meta and fury trance is half the cost of vamp burst
>>544696870Honestly thank fuck they did this, because supergliding has been in Apex for years. This only levels the playing field by making it a much easier input. It's the same thing that has to happen to things like cornerboosting in Deadlock, these powerful movement mechanics should not be tied to difficult inputs and arbitrary mechanics, it just adds a huge layer of completixty to an already overly complex game
>>544706929rather go fort on drifter
10/12 FOR THE INHOUSE JOIN INNNNNNN3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW
>VYPER. YOU ARE SO BEAUTIFUL! The Patron wants to get freaky with a lizard
>>544706929rejoin nigga
3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW11/121 more slot
>>544708213ogey
>>544708210
>>544706929>fort / veilwalker>instead of stacking shielding + battle vest + hollow pointpeople foget they're items but consider healing nova. 325 health a minute compares favorably to veil walker unless you're really minmaxing it and you can use it on demand in a fight. good for broolers like drifter
wtf why is it so high, no way this is accurate.
YEEESSSS VINDICTA, SUCK THEM OFF ONE BY ONE
>>544708898Thought this was so funny you had to post it twice in 30 minutes?
>>544709074Oops lol, double posted
>>544708745its my only green stat together with damage taken per minthen again i mostly play frontliners so these statistics say fuck all anyway about the outcome of the game
>guy opens up mic and sounds like the nicest guy ever>when we win he types get fucked you loser faggotswhat the h*ck
>>544710271ASSFAGGOTS bring out the worst in us
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>544710271>kind to teammates>cruel to enemiesbeing a dick in the post game is fucked up but this is the right thing to do
why is mirage's winrate so low? is he bad?
>>544710665sorry its me, i keep falling asleep holding m1 on people
>>544710665dps too low as gun or spirit
>>544710665he's a utility teamfight hero, he can't carry on his own
>>544710576>different MD5you will never be unoriginality anon
https://youtu.be/fFJUSG-oOZM?si=ZpmzHB5LxxLMHT8eAbsolute rape match. I'd change names and disappear from public view.
I wish Viscous had a better ult.
>>544711192I wish they didn't nerf it.
i got some really good assassinate shots that matchcrow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl
>>544711192flattening people is fun
>>544710665>>544710665>He's one of the worst carries to play if he's behind in souls>He doesn't farm particularly fast>needs a decent amount of items to get going but can still get jumped or CC'd and blown up even with Tornado>sometimes there's not enough time to get more than 1 trigger of Djinn's mark off in a fightThose are the main ones. I also think that Scarabs need to have faster projectile speed or better targeting too.For what it's worth, Mirage is good in pre-made stacks where people coordinate Traveler ganks. But in MM (and especially solo queue) there are better heroes to play.
>>544711192i wish i was a little bit taller, i wish i was a baller, i was mina ha was real i would call her
>>544710665secret tech hasn't leaked to the normiesphereyou build him as a tank and let the stacks build up over the duration of the fight. he does fuck off huge damage with minimal damage investment and can fulfill the role of map wide baby sitter and jumpscare rapist if he has a massive effective health pool. people keep building him for big huge pog damage, not realizing that they're larping as a shit gun carry rather than the bodyguard he's meant to be
>>544711117>he doesn't know
I was in the other thread for 3 hours wondering why it was slow
>>544696889>Play Paradox>You pretty much swap yourself into enemies, so the enemies focus fire on you, and your team can damage output because they have no balls and even taking 1 hit is enough to send them back to base>Play Holliday>You are not being focus fire because you're jumping around like a retarded frog, and your teams are all balless faggots, so nobody is in the front tanking at all>Everybody loseSimple as that.
>>544710665I already went over this earlier
Your yellow lane, for tonight, sir.
yo is the inhouse currently in process? there's one slot free but noone's picking anything so i guess the game is up but someone left already
>get teammates that move to where the fights are starting>win>get teammates that continue wasting their time jungling for 100 soul camps>loseit's so obvious which team you have by the 12 minute mark too
>>544713182me and my friend in duo queue headed to the next game in your winstreak
>It's another episode of everybody just try to push walker together after wiping enemies instead of splitting and push walkers + steal jungles & sinners at the same timeWhy are there so many people that have no idea how to play the game?It's a mistake for making this game tps & attracting shooter retards into this game.
>Abrams phantom strike 3rd itemBASED
>>544713837What were his 1st and 2nd items? You know, for research.
>>544713837im still glad i did as well as i did. felt like that could've gone so much worse.
need 2 more for inhouse 3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW
>>544714016Don't have the replay but I'm pretty sure it was it was extra regen and melee lifesteal, maybe close quarters instead of one of those
>>544714258I was in lane with him and im pretty sure it was melee lifesteal and extra regenthe phantom strike was bought for vindicta btw
What about... restorative locket on drifter?
>>544715004better for teamfight broolers rather than pick off rapistsgo nova
Been a bad night lads
Need 2 bros, join my team for EZ win3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW
>>544715149Get gud
OOKS READY
>paige in your lane>best you can do is stalemate because for the first 20 minutes of the game she and anyone near her is effectively invincibleso tired of this braindead retard supportslut hero bros
>>544715337I'm tryin
Fucking valve, give me dagon in the game now.
why the fuck is there 2 bebops and 3 drfiters?
>>544715961duplicate hero kino
>>544715149Got kills = good drifter game>>544715116You know what I'm gonna try Nova. I already buy healing rite for Drifter anyways.
Why can't I just pick 1 hero to play with?Why must I choose 3?
>>544715961because cowards don't wanna go 6 bebop vs 6 drifterhates fun
Drifter probably smells like blood and unwashed assThat's all
3V6XW3V6XW3V6XWcome have some dupe hero fun
Join we're doing a silly match with dupes. Only need 33V6XW3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW>>544716420Well of course he smells blood. That's his passive
>>544715401I remember this viscous posting this as evidence and complaining about the 4 stack bebops as if they wouldn't have died to the holliday lasso even if they weren't bebopsALSO, they could have just fucking ran away, but they go back in for some reason?
>>544715401i miss the trapper brehs
why do i feel like i do no damage as infernus even being 5k up on someone, landing all my shots to instantly proc afterburnwhat the fuck am i missing
>>544716947He got nerfed a bit to keep his ass in line.
>>544716516CLANKER VS RAPISTcan incel brethren step up yo the merciless zogbots
>>544716947are you maxxing and actually hitting napalm?
>>544716775He's such a strange concept. I don't even know what he's actually meant for.Also release Slork and call him Slork, noth this shitty "Fathom"
We could do 4v4? 2v2 in blue and 1v1s on the others. Thoughts?
>>544715401it's interesting how that corner of the map is exactly the same as it is now a year later after so many map changes. also i miss trapper too. I think i was either the calico or the trapper in that webm, i also remember that match was horrible.
>>544716516>averageshallowgodwebm.png
>>544716775if he somehow gets released, he needs the "This case isn't running out of spiders any time soon."
>lane starts>getting denied really bad>get really confused since I'm doing a good job confirming whatever I can>start paying attention to my ally, Ivy>never confirms souls>actually never does anything, really>"Ivy, you need to help confirm the souls">"It's too hard for me, I can't"I knew it was lost then and there. What followed was 30 minutes of torture. That kind of, "slow losing" that you get in RTS games. She spent the rest of the game doing jungle and ended the game 0/1/4.What the fuck is this matchmaking how was she in this game?!
just do 5v5 dota style
>>5447172915v5 doesn't work that well, solo lanes are fucked and they gain 2x souls from troopers.
3 more for Drifter vs Bebop3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW
Man, I just wanted to play Bebop cause I was bored of being McGinnis twice.
One more honourable hero needed for the brave Drifter nation against the henious villainous bebops (they also need one more)
we need ONE bepop and ONE drifter3V6XW3V6XW3V6XW3V6XWJOIN IN
>>544716114I'm basically just saying things but I've been trying nova on other characters and it seems kinda nicelemme know how it goes
One more strong warrior needed for the glorious Bebop squad against the disgusting rapist drifters (they also need one more)
think i'm done with this game. literally every match is just a stomp one way or the other where your team feels 2 ranks below or their team feels 2 ranks higher.
ONLY ONE DRIFTER NEEDED FOR THE INHOUSEalso merk, change to drifter
who messed up the teams?also, get the fuck out of spectator and join us
>someone shuffledWhy though.Come on, join team Drifter so we can start
are you niggas going to start this pr what?
>>544718145it's 5v6 we need a niggathe faggot on spectator won't join in
What's with this guy in the spectator cuck chair, join the game or leave
aruru, pick your Bebop
>>544716619better nerf stickybomb again just to be safe. I fucking hate gunbop so much, it's lame to play and lame to play against
>>544718082>>544718234let's not be too harsh, maybe he's peeing>>544718239he's probably just waiting until it's full so no one hits start preemptively
>you'll never kill me>diespiece of shit character doesnt work right
>>544718239not until there's 6v6 because i know one retard will start it early
>>544716114my geist kekthis new captcha is horrendous
>>544718327True. Bebop being a gun carry is just a signal how fucking stupid icefrogs design choices were for this game.
How hit fucking shuffle again. What are we even doing? We have enough people but 2 of them just want to tease on spectator
Mark wake up, join the team!
MAAAAAAARKMOVE OUT OF SPECTATORMAAAAAAAARK
can the drifter come back from the cuck chair
is Sinclair busted??
Wraith>is sex>has a gun with lots of bullets that shoot fastI winrar
>>544720140my average vindictus game right there
this shit sucked ass.ggs
6x mcginnis vs 6x bebop?
post stats, please
>>544720779I think we're done with dupes for now
>duellies againno fucking thanks>>544720798it was a wash with like 70k difference
>>544720749i mean we already knew that multiple bebop's were fucking stupid in lane from last years experiment.
Im tired so im going to sleepfun inhouses!
1 Paige vs 1 Vyper
>>544720934if we do dupes no bebops.
ggs for inhousestoday proved drifter is an honestGOD compared to the zogbot
>>544720798
>>544721518Lash won alone
>>544721581self absorbed move to be the only one not doing the duping. In character
Official DLG Hero Honesty Tierlist
@544722781XD
I can only win playing m1 characters...
>>544722781>vindicta in the redgiving away your rank nonny
>>544723248I hope they nerf spirit and make gun not fucking useless in the future
>>544722781one day doorman will be in the literally kill yourself if you ever play this hero tier as he rightfully should be
Official Yuri SA tierlist
>>544723343the shooterchud kneels to the mobagawd
wish haze would rape me
>>544722781What the fuck is that fat cunt professor doing down there
I made this in memory of how honest Drifter is. Frankly, he's too honest.
>>544722781>mo&krill, calico, billy>dishonest>seven, lash>honest
Sorry guys I spent all day playing arc raiders, I betrayed you
>>544724118never thought it over but drifter and bebop are kinda similar
Guys how do I get into Deadlock? I haven't played DOTA in 4 years. Is it more of a shooter or a MOBA? What skills should I focus on to start?
>>544711192viscous should get hammond's grappling hook
>>544724164mokrill is the most dishonest hero in the game together with kelvin by a massive landslide, calico is cancer tooseven is the most honest hero in the game, lash is arguable
>>544724372they even both have limited range weapons
>>544724431it's like 65/35 moba/shooter focus on movement since you already have moba experience
>>544724431just play it like it's dota but it's a 3rd person shooter, farm is a constant, items generally build into bigger ones, soul count is your score nothing else matters
>>544724118kek
>>544723480Are they meant to coincide by column at all
I should probably just jerk off and watch youtube but i'm gonna queue this dogshit up for another forced loss instead
>>544724118trvke
>>544725514tbqh I didn't intend for that but looking at it again it does work
>>544724776>>544724849cool thanks anons ill give it my best shot
>>544725523You win this one. Lock in.
tfw no kardel sharpeye hero
>top 2 ranking yamatos are gun yamato playerswe need to stop this before its too late
how do i get betteri feel like i always do no damage and fall behind in souls
>>544724118LMAO
>>544717279I seriously don't understand people who say they "can't" confirm / deny souls. Nigga you have a gun, the least you can do is fucking try. But they'd rather just not try and instead give the enemy thousands of free souls because.....??????
Valve needs to add a hero that's literally just slick willy afton. I thought victor would've been that when I first saw him, but he's too kind and just a hot shirtless guy that everyone swoons over. He doesn't even kill people. I want my votes back.
>>544727618hit more abilities and shots more often, check your damage and healing sources to see what items you can cut out in favor of better items or use differently
>>544727618don't play dynamo
>>544728471but he's fun
>>544727618nigga you're dynamo. I hate seeing my dynamo off in sidelanes farming 20 minutes and picking 1v1s. You don't need damage and souls, you need to be alive with your ult ready to make a huge play.
>>544728635you seem more like an abrams player
>>544727618dynamo is a teamfight support and you have 18k heals with 2/3/14 i think you did alright
>>544728708reacted "100" to your post
>>544724118Best image everHuh, yeah, Stalker's Mark is kinda like Hook except the total opposite, bring him to them...now that I think about it, that does suck in quite a few ways doesn't it?
>>544728976Yeah but interestingly stalker's mark is kinda the anti escape tool. In that while after you hook someone they might cart you, teleport, zoom away, but with mark you can land it then wait for them to piss themselves and burn their cool downs and then BOOM! You're back on them
>>544729353marking doorman and teleporting to him after he carts and goes through a door is hilarious every time
>>544726154we did it reddit
What's the Geist build? Bomb or Life Drain? I've done will the the Deathy Stepmom guide but it feels kind of weird to play.
>>544725523i will win the game for you if you send me your steam id
>3 games in a row my team doesnt get a gun damage carry>get stompedfantastic
>>544731128win faster
>>544731216the implication of your post is that gun damage carries have bad laning. (they dont besides wraith)
>>544729353*decuck removes your rapist mark*
>>544731317no, the implication is that gun carries have a late power ceiling and you need to punish that
>>544731914so you dont know?
>>544731128so, just buy gun items?
>>544732131know what? your team was playing your lineups wrong
>>544731128>always do really good with mina early and mid game>shit rank though so teammates just don’t know doing objectives and winning the game as quickly as possible is the best way to go. >even though have highest soul count and kd on my team still get out scaled hard by late game and loseMy winrate with her is awful because of this. Literally had a game where my team left me behind to die because they backed off after taking base guardians, instead you know taking fucking patron when we still had two rejuvs and 3 enemies down. I’ve seen so many times people going to farming when 2-3 enemies are down and everyone is still up its infuriating.
>>544724118>>544729353It's funny knowing this was made by a bebop main
solos should only play against solos
to the calico shitter that kept rescue beam griefing our lash that didnt want to die with you in lane; neck yourself mate, uninstall the game, make some friends irl and neck yourself. Neck yourself, never touch a medium composed of human beings again you bacteria. try to make it less obvious you are a neet by changing your pfp
please help idk what to geist build
>bebop troon gets looked at funny in lane>proceeds to AFK under guardian and stone walls the lane because if you try to play, he hooks you into guardian and if you don't he just clears wavesthis character is exclusively played by skilless, handless troons who have 0 talent outside of waiting to finally hit their 1 ability after 6 minutes of missing for a free kill.
>>544733463instead I like to walk to their guardian and hook them out from through it when they think they're safe
>spirit meta>its the most unbelievably dogshit meta well have to suffer through for a monthAPOLOGIZE TO GUNCHADS RIGHT NOW
>look at my victor in fights>wtf>never activates his stink aura once>look at his items>he is building fucking gun items and surge of power/healing tempo to try and shoot people>we lose and he ends the game with almost no healing and less damage to heros/structures than our paige
>Spirit meta bad!>Gun meta bad!no, what's bad is this fucking dogshit horse shit mid boss meta>ah shucks, two random retards on your team died post 20 mins?>HAHA you fucking LOSE because you cannot contest mid so now they get to win the game via the EXTREME lead they get for free since they get to do anything on the map they want since it's not effectively a 6 v 9 ON TOP of their bonus statsfucking bring back old mid that just halved respawns, fuck this stupid bullshit.
Just wait for the jungle and midboss update.
ONE MID BOSS?THREE REJUVS?
guardians are going to become ghosts
rejuv respawns should place you in spawn as a ghost with 20 movement speed and you have to run back to your corpse to respawn.so if you fuck up and die enemies can camp your corpse and you have to beg your teammates to come save you.
Make midboss an actual raid boss and the issue goes away
DAY IS NEVA' FINISHEDMASSA GOT ME WORKIN'
>>544733787... and other things seekers believe
>>544734780this makes rejuv significantly more disgusting busted since you could just stall the whole enemy team or guarantee yourself a free safe revive if they decide its not worth itits a stupid idea anon
>>544733787Posts like these make me realize some of you fuckers weren't around pre-shiv.
>>544733356usual spirit shit and berserkerjust do nade build, why not
>>544711117some anon posted a filter way backbetter go find it because it still works
>>544710576haze isn't black
>>544735327Is haze magic in someway like the OSIC gave her sandman drugscor is she like a species? A hazeling.
>>544735327cope, troon. you play a black woman in a video game.
>>544735625i do and i wish there was a trans hero too
>>544734991put an anti stall timer that just revives you in spawn if you stall it too long.i don't see how this is any more broken than having a fight be a 6v9 because they instantly respawn where they died.
>>544711836>you build him as a tankritualist trannies pretending they know some "secret tech" when it's really just a dogshit unplayably bad build they most likely have a 20% winrate on never gets less tilting to see.
>>544734780>>544734991>>544735753make rejuvenator charges a pickup like urn that can't be dropped and blocks your parry/drop command but doesn't block any other combat action
>>544735964this solves 0 issues that mid boss has, retard.
>>544736051you're wrong but i refuse to elaborate
>he builds reactive barrier>he builds cultist>he builds fury>he builds any healing item>he builds cold front>he builds curse>he builds veil walker>he build fortitude>he builds refresher>he builds echo shard>he builds divine barrier>he builds any barrier item>he builds full orange>he builds full purple>he doesn't build magic carpet>he doesn't build superior stamina
>>544736175why is the watch trans?
>Magic carpet/"le schmoovement" tranny trying to call anyone else a trannywho let the retard on the computer, someone strap his helmet back on
>>544736219it's for the reactionary who loses track of time
>>544736219>he builds all thatBecause (you) are.
>>544736175Greenmaxxed PhantomGODS winning yet again.
>>544736175whats the reason for leaving out debuff remover and counterspell
>enemy mina shit talks us moments before disaster strikes her team and we catch 3 people out and get mid bossI am cum
bebop should look like dhis
>>544720140Sinclair has the advantage of being difficult and not very popular so if you know how to play him well a lot of people aren't used to dodging his bullshit.
it's easy to get good, just win the hero draft.
>>544737359Red-skinned Ixian larping as the devil when?
>>544695328AMEN
remember when csgo got a battle royale mode?imagine if deadlock got an extraction shooter mode.
>>544739010Kelvin should be like this instead of swedish chef science guy
would haze be more interesting if fixation was stronger but it instantly cancelled the moment you shot someone else?an ult rework would be pretty good too
Is there a way to remove a build that's not mine from my build list?
>>544745649It somehow went away, weird.Why do I not see any Mina builds use fire rate items?
>>544746045burst fire is prob the only one you need
>>544735794t. midwit metaslaveFree thinkers know every one of his skills benefit from being tanky. I bet you werent even around for rhe mirage is a tank ritual poster on his release
test
>>544747459>P*ige postedTest failed
>>544747894nyo it confirmed what I thought. Thank you for aiding SCIENCE BITCH
>>544747894that's not paige that's a cat
>>544746045some minas use kinetic dash, it's enough if you're not going for superior staminacultist sacrifice also gives firerate
so hard doing the M2 jump as Shiv, feels like rocket jumping
Should urn be changed somehow? There are so many players who 1. don't even TRY to run the urn and 2. don't even seem to understand its importance to the game and that you NEED to get it/fight over itI played a game just now where my team literally told me "no urn, don't run it" even though I was already 60% across the map, delivery spot was open, 3 teammates were nearby the lane, and the enemies weren't nearby. They said "don't run" so I literally stood in place and typed out to fucking actually help me instead of doing nothing.Guess what? We secured the urn, turned the game around over all, and won. The amount of players who are fucking SCARED to play the game is insane
>>544748674I think they need to revert the nerf, remove the resistances and just give it back its +7m/s buff. Make exceptions for certain abilities like gooball (I believe they already did for Ivy flight) and don't give them the movespeed buff. Make it so that there's a more effective, harsher penalty for holding the urn hostage as the leading team.
>>544748674im in high oracle and cant persuade my teammates to fight for it so the only time i can actually run urn is if its on our side or when we just took rejuv to force the enemy team to fight over resourcesfeels like if i dont do it nobody does and i dont get it, people would rather just afk farm than help 30s for basically free 1k+ souls
>>544748403Im shilling for Kinetic and stam masteryBoth give stam recov and mina has the lowest base in the game so you can hit 3s stam recov for basically unlimited stam. Arcane surge works too instead of Kinetic but I think the ability range and duration is a bit of a waste
Reminder that stam mastery increases your air dash speed and for this reason alone is core on everyone
>>544748674Simple.Make it so that the enemies can't steal the urn.They can stop it, they can return it, but they can't steal it.Problem solved. People will be fighting to get the urn first now.
>>544750069Move speed and stamina are must haves for all characters. If you don't buy it and the enemy does, there are situations where you literally can not escape. They will be faster than you no matter what, will have more stamina no matter what. They should change it to be part of the leveling up system. Atleast, I think so. You already level up your abilities, why not get a choice of stamina or speed every couple of levels? Or maybe time based? After 10min everyone gets 1 more pip, after 20, another, etc.
What's the best item if my early wave clear sucks and i want less suck? Gun or spirit
>>544750539monster rounds DUH niggamystic burst works on troopers and neutrals and doesn't go on cooldown for it so it's permanent +40 damage on PvE
>>544750650Seems pretty weak sauce ngl, like if I get a holiday/doorman lane and they just 1 shot aoe the creep wave lvl1 and now im getting out numbered and harassed trying to m1 creep 30 times
How is this for a Mina build? Any important items that I overlooked?
reactive barrier + arcane shield bought in every poopsock spamlane check
>>544752689youre missing spirit/weapon shielding and reactive barrier which are more value than both armors for Mina because she is too low HP to create effective % HP
>>544688520fat art of geist is canon proportions dough
>>544752689I like diviner’s kevlar as a super lategame item since it’s both defensive and pretty solid damagebarrier might be better tho if you aren’t already running 4x actives
>>544753536I removed d.kev from my builds until capacitor stops purging itIts just too much value lost
>>544730760life drain for surefull spirit bomb geist falls off very hard in the late game
>>544754207Falling off late game is basically all spirit builds
>>544754360Even Seven?
>>544754360nahI would list examples but it's half the cast
>>544753887just iframe the capacitor shot minabro.
>>544754445Who?>>544754518Name 2
>>544754775kelvin and dynamo
>>544754518Its just how the math worksSpirit items are all flat values except boundless and gun items are all % except headhunter. So spirit comes online early then falls off
>>544754961Those are util bots, their spirit damage still falls offThe correct answer was gt and mirage
>>544754775mina and vincocktaTrue btw
>>544755173their ults scale so well with spirit it makes up for their nukes not hitting for as much % hp, also their nukes have utilitydynamo's also gets increased range so he can start stomping down the entire lanethis is all still scaling, they don't fall off
check these quads>55:55
>>544752689You don't need those sustain items.Just get sprint boots for the heal, and rely on your 1 to heal up.You can also get some sweet movement speeds from it too, and it can eventually upgrade to juggernaut to fuck with gun heroes.
>>544756042Your inhouse rank is in the dumps brother..
>>544757732what that mean
I loss streaked hard as fuck yesterday and I don't even wanna play anymore nowGame after game of absolute mouthbreathers.I can't TAKE this shit no more man
>>544752689Spirit shielding will be better than spirit lifesteal until like 30m
Fucking useless impossible to hit item.
>>544759037here's your parenthesis you parenthesis
The Doorman has concluded his great work.>>544759280That's not bait, that's my opinion on Silence Wave after trying to use it.
>>544759436come on now man
>another cheating wallhacking smurf talon lvl 3 steam accs murf loses to my m1holdingez game
>>544736175I’m trans btw
>>544755173>2.7% health bleed that shreds resistances, lasts 9 seconds and is aoe is bad
>feed my ass off early>lock in, farm hard, and come back to carry team to victoryI gotta give it to Deadlock, I feel like any other MOBA I’d be a useless pylon after feeding early
Victor is a stealth character
>>544760768>Try your hardest to bully this player and shut him down early in the game>Doesn't even matter, he's gonna comeback anywayWhat's the point then?What hero you pick is more important at this point then
Comeback is a fucking myth, it's just hoping the enemy team messes up big time
>>544760997Very disappointed when I didnt see shadowweave
>>544760748The damage is a meme, the value is in the aoe stun. Spirit falls off, stop moving goal posts and beung pendantic. You can play green or orange dynamo and still have blackhole, the spirit power is irrelevant
>>544760997looney tunes episode
>>544761246its a draft game with zero drafting
>>544761246You didn’t continue the bullying and let him study the blade
>>544760997Looney Tunes chase
>>544761567I talked about Vindicta.
>>544761246If you let him AFK farm jungle then that's your fault. Pay attention to the enemy carries and don't let them farm, mein nigga
>>544760997stealing this
>>544710665takes too long to do damage in a meta with an average survival time of 3 seconds
I quit my job without securing another one and started playing deadlock for the last two months, starting at the 6 hero update. I have put in 500 hours.guess my rank
>>544763761alchemist iv
>>544763761Seeker 5
>>544763761Probably somewhere between Ritualist to Archon depending on if you've played a moba before.
>>544763761Initiate 1
>>544763761Oracle
>>544710665The problem with mirage is that he's a macro/strategy hero in a game where nothing but brawling over mid boss matters. Who the fuck cares about a teleport that saves you maybe 1-2 seconds that could be traversed with a air vent instead to fight in mid over the boss. That's the real issue, the game is fucking brainead to play right now. Win lane, run urn(s), get mid boss, end game.The rest of his kit is power rationed due to teleport which is useless, so he will remain bad until mid boss importance is reduced
>>544718448I thought he went around and it didn't notice the closet
Man Geist can actually rip apart towers
>>544716619>ALSO, they could have just fucking ran away, but they go back in for some reason?yeah i have no clue why they didn't just keep runningit's not like they hit a bad bounce on a wall that forced them backwards, they willingly went back in while still clearly outnumbered
Valve needs to purge the trannies from this game
>>544764321winner
>>544764926Let me ask some anons then, how would you fix mid boss?Make it more tanky?Reduce the revives?Honestly the only way I can see it not being aids is a total rework with a new effect/reward for doing it.
>>544765541Lashbros…
shouldn't initiate be a higher rank than seekerseeker implies you're only seeking out knowledgeinitiate implies you've actually started applying it
>>544765704make it spawn a walking guardian that marches into the opponent's base on each lane
>yamato+billy lane>Vs mo+bebopWhat are you actually supposed to do here aside accept eating dirt? It's not even a question about hooks, bebops bombs deal like 200 guaranteed damage every 10 seconds (possibly x2 if the AoE hits) when close and mo scorns for so much heal that it's basically impossible to succeed trading with him.
>>544765546ah my brother
>>544702245>0/3/0 wraith disappears for 5 minutes>Suddenly several thousand souls above the rest of the serverI don't even understand how this bitch can farm so hard
>>544766151Are you the Billy or Yamato? If you're billy then there's basically nothing you can do but afk farm and hope the enemy misplays by being greedyYamato has a lot more to work with but you need to communicate with your billy so he knows to all in when you all in.
>>544766151any pair of heroes will lose or at best stall against bebop mokrill lane unless they are playing with their monitors offsometimes you have to accept that you will not win your lane, play safe until the other lanes fall and fo from there
>>544766151Try to hold your own for 10 minutes and hope your teammates win their lane and help you
>>5447657042 respawns first boss, only spawns at 20 minutessmaller boss room so it's way riskier to get everyone inside of itIdeal answer though is scrapping urn and adding a side boss to where the current big camps on each lane is. Something like a vehicle you pilot. I know valve doesnt have the balls to do this but it would be better for the game. Icefrog is obsessed with the urn it's like his diretide evolution he just wont give up on it.
>>544766323I was billy, my friend was yamaha. Part of the issue could be that he was overly aggressive because his build usually makes him nigh immortal but against bebomb you're not>>544766441We got ass raped and lost our tower rapidly and then they mating pressed the other lanes and we lost
>>544766151spirit shielding you can easily win that lane I'd even say yamato has the advantage she's being banned every game in pro games now.
>>544710665>make a gun based spirit character that stacks damage on hits>in a game that rewards maxing one or the other
>>544766304Shoots her gun
spookey is live.
>>544765704What was wrong with old midboss (respawn reduction + buff + mega creeps)? Roshan dropping 3 aegises that buff you is fucking retarded.
>>544766151You fucked up by not swapping. And if you swapped, you and your teammates probably fucked up by letting the enemy counterswap back to you instead of doing it discretely so as to avoid it.One common amongst these short range brawlers like Billy and Abrams is that they are only as good as their lane partner. At the very least someone on your team capable of assisting you and denying enemy plays, like Paige or Ivy can, or capable of clearing waves effortlessly, should have swapped to your lane. Unfortunately, the playerbase is not yet at the level where coordination of this kind of commonplace.At that point your best bet is Monster Rounds and stalling as much as possible (at least until you can get the sinners', but that may be asking for far too much) and eventually giving the tower when you are able to gauge that they can dive and kill you and/or take the tower for free.
>>544767000mega creeps was actually stronger lmao
>>544765704also fix the midboss pit. it sucks now.
>>544767000>>544765704honestly the lives are enough I dont understand why it buffs you. You already won the fight why the fuck do you need a buff
>>544766695I think the real answer is his creep clear sucks and the meta is literally shove wave and fuck off to boxes
Midboss should collapse the ceiling when he hits half health and everyone would have to back off to not die in the rubble and then rosh pit is open to the air and the midboss becomes giant and picks players up and throws them around and shoots slow homing orbs that you have to dodge. The ceiling grows back by ghosts in hardhats sucking all the rubble back together a minute after he dies or if you stop fighting him
>>544744117Kelvin is fritjof nansen with a beard
>>544765704Midboss is just retarded by design>You win a fight, usually that means you're better than the enemy team, you're ready to win>Therefore you can now kill midboss, to win harderThey only added midboss because dota & LOL had one.They can totally remove midboss and not try to force one despite it being unhealthy for the game.
>>544769342The point is an objective that makes you vulnerable when taking it but gives you a decisive advantage. Roshans buff is much weaker though and the rosh pit is black hole sized rather than a giant room with cover
>Enemies are challenging during lane phase, but retarded during mid-late game>Getting win streaks>Enjoying the game so damn muchWhen the lose streaks hit, it's gonna be painfulPlease never let it come...
>>544769778>The point is an objective that makes you vulnerable when taking it but gives you a decisive advantage.And yet you're almost never vulnerable when taking it.So, the simple solution would just be forcing that to be the case.No midboss allowed unless both teams are alive.After midboss roar, this rule doesn't apply anymore. If midboss didn't take any damage after 30 seconds, it recovered to full life, and reapply the rule.
>>544744117What the fuck is that hair
>>544770662>His hair doesn't double as a helmet>>544769129I just wish that he was little more serious than just>I fucking love science
>>544694718>dynamo on my team>sinclair on the enemy team stealing dynamos ult with a lower cd than dynamoevery fucking time
