Total Owlslaughter edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, The Elder Scrolls, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>544578541Thread question: Which developers mog Owlclowns the hardest?
Possible contenders for crpg of the year in 2026 from most to least likely>dark heresy>solasta 2>UnderRail 2: infusion >clockwork revolution>banquet for fools>secret of the weepstone>swordhaven>legends of the round table
what is "dispatch"? a new crpg?
>>544698337VN actually. Some anon just can't help but spam it here.
Are you guys going to keep both these threads alive simultaneously?
of course
mental illness
nah, ive had enough. they can talk about Rogue Trader in their new Rogue Trader general
Cd project was so hot 5-10 years back. then they stopped making crpgs and made two shitty GTA style movie games back to back
>>544699882ive heard nothing besides Witcher 4 after cyberpunk bombed. Witcher 2 was the only pc only rpg 2008-2015
>>544698256swordhaven doesnt even have a release date. they are just going to sell early access until that dries up. BG3 was 6 years of early access, and act 1 was is over bloated from just selling EA
>>544698256none of those are coming 2026 besides dark asset flip
>island of misfit garbage and classic crpgs I'm home I find it incredibly funny that the brief wave of outer worlds 2 redditors viscerally hate this teh assassin of d00m tumblr throwback girl when she's the only character obsidian wrote with a reason to be so le quirky. In any other game this would be insufferable, but on the curve of this writing an extended "lol so random, boy I sure do love killing" schtick is a breath of fresh air in a game that is 70% girlboss killers they demand you take seriously.
>>544702559how is outer worlds 2 compared to one? im just hearing obsidian hate so far
ima boot up vagrus
>>544702559>screenshotThat's the only good looking character in this game
>>544698351Go over there, tards
was thinking about playing dragon age 3, but i got a piracy claim for dragon age 2 year or so back....already bought it on my xbox fuckers
>>544702559Frog is that you? If so what are your overall thoughts on the game vs the general concencus?Regarding reactivity and C&C?
>>544704747we are splitting into /OWL/ - romances and RT and /CRPGG/. rename your general when you make it please
>>544703341It is pretty fucked at a mechanical and systems level independent of being more cringe. >gun and weapon damage skullfucked by a clearly last minute switch from a weapon upgrade and rarity=damage system like the last time most guns and every unique/smart weapon are just not viable even on normal. Weapon dispersion is also so bad you won't even see a SMG or assault rifle until the late 2nd or 3rd planet. A machinegun you can get minutes after the (hour long) tutorial by climbing a roof is the one copy of the highest damage output gun you'll find all game other than the same gun but legendary being carried by the first worlds boss. It does more damage than any weapon you'll ever find for your build because there is one [gun] stat that increases damage for every single type of firearm in the whole game, assuring most weapons are just flat worse and can't be improved to match something you don't want to use but have to Stealth is in the bad place of fake reactivity, enemies instantly knowing they're being attacked even with silencers and the noise reduction perk when like 2 of their 7 die outside of visual range. Companions also run the 90 yards between you and the guys you're sniping at random just to die instantly because armor is likely bugged further >nothing scales properly companion damage is like 50dps as you fight enemies like hammer guys, mechs and named characters with 2000-5000 health and super armor. They also are downed instantly regardless of investment>bullet sponge enemies that also shoot you to death >armor doesn't work the damage mitigation and armor system is just broken, no matter what you wear it's ~4-6 shots and you're dead on normal from most things as you double jump and try to put a collision box between you and the enemy. AI sucks so they don't shoot you often/use slow firing trash guns(in your hands) as a hedge but there is also no corner lean or cover system so you have to stand in the open.
>>544705730wtf, how are they making down grades of fallout new vegas 13 years later? its like lost technology they could make a more refined mod with the creation engine. in fact the most polished 3d RPG i played last two years was tainted grail which was just a skyrim clone
>>544704932I'm not froganon, but it's just a hodgepodge. Quest design is linear, checks and using skills to discover things don't actually change outcomes, just the dialogue you see in the next immediate dialogue. Lockpicking pretty much is just loot doors because they don't actually want you to sequence skip. >a big setpiece of planet 2 is the recruitment quest for the old indian assassin grandma >there are two locked doors on either side of her locked safe room >if you have the lockpicking they... open and have some bad loot in them >it isn't to side step the 2 sidequests to discover what happened so you can just kill her (and rob yourself of the companion oh no) or have a conversation on your footing where she says who she is and then you do those quests everything is laid out for the one outcome of the quest to happen, all the "immersive roleplay choices" are smoke and mirrors/fluff to obfuscate very basic quest design. There is also a pretty big problem with sequence breaking >recruit Aza >do Aza's recruitment mission >it takes you through area you could already have traipst through to kill some guys and also do another quest you got from the main guys >end of this kill gauntlet/trap gauntlet you complete both missions and get a revelation of a betrayer amongst the ranks of the guy who sent you on the mission >...before you did 3 other related side quests it was meant for >which do not lock out or change because you now know this >you were just supposed to do them first
>>544705730>>544706926why did you play outer worlds 2 if it was so obvious it was going to be bad?
>>544702559looks like the same game engine of whatever that skyrim in space flop bethesda made was called
>>544706926and ironically the opposite in similarly bad ways>first planet is just edgewater, but star wars The force awakened scale>ends with choosing which settlement to kill off by a binary choice>if you have hacking above X you can also 3rd option of nothing bad happening (you won't) problem>there is a door to the basement of the bbeg's lair where you just do the level backwards >it's very obvious to find in the boss arena for the game's parvati's companion quest>you will do this quest because why wouldn't you (aside from everything being bullet sponges, like the bullet sponge boss)>you go up the hall and interact with a terminal and suddenly self destruct sequence make a choice NAO >whichever you pick pretty much auto ends all remaining main quest for the planet >you're now on planet 2 ~5 hours early and the story has just been broken over your knee, all your motivations and past framing no longer apply (and little reason to have killed that boss) and you have no context for the next leg of the main story outside the same "kill benny" of the startand if you think destroying a city of the factions badguys is going to be a problem... it isn't. Non joinable, doesn't piss off tristan the commissar companion(or ever come up). They're also being pogrom'd by their evil government so shooting all of them doesn't matter. Quite convenient for the writers after a possibly hasty rework to not be able to join the space enclave. You don't make actual decisions, the game just goes forward.>>544707242macabre curiosity mostly, but it can't be understated how bad the writing is. The entire games diction is in 3 faction specific flavors of the "big words" trope and so are the journal entries. The two DLCs of the first game actually improved a little bit but clearly that was their B team who free of oversight making DoA dlc for a EGS exclusive wrote scenario based humor with dialogue spoken like actual humans. The A team would never stoop so low.
>>544708461Grim, i guess avowed was the 'A' team for obsidian. when they made POE and Tyranny they just stole assets from tyranny to polish POE more, with just one experienced man in charge of all interns, fresh hires, entry level, etc, then sent 'A' team for a month or two to polish up Maybe they tried the same but just said fuck it because the layoffs leaked early. sounds insanely unpolished rather than just shortI dont even know if Obsidian has one more game in them with these lay offs, there isnt any will to reform if they get shitcanned by microsoft like with black isle
>>544703524>Vagrus did they finish the main story yet ?
>>544710079they added like 3 DLC that did somethingI like these indie text games like suzerain or disco elysium, but they tend to be overly conservative just releasing DLC or enhanced editions instead of a new project. honestly what all these writers making passion projects need is to be attached to real game studios, instead of where they just hire the most attractive women or throw darts for their 'video game writer' with less skill than porn writers
But to pull together a small list of positives for OW2 >Insulate yourself from the cringe, the plot is arc is serviceable as a straight line about stopping a direct existential threat (likely a reaction to the critique the first game is about nothing) related to the badguy faction and your starting antagonist >there are moments of enjoyable looter shooting as a game loop when you get together decent guns (shock rifle, first boss machinegun, sniper rifle, marksman rifle, revolver/legendary as the shortlist) that have good damage and time to kill >Aza has a good voiceactress and her one note safe edgy gimmick >Tristan is a caricature but decent enough to have around They're pretty much Ellie and Max of the first game with similar arcs of bookending a past life and growing jaded with their belief system. Still serviceable like last time, still the only not bad companions. >movement is better with the combat slide and double jump >Go to objective kill to complete objective quests all largely play fine at a gameplay level It's not a long list but there is a game in here. >>544709674>sounds insanely unpolished rather than just shortI don't see how it ever was allowed to launch in this state. Microsoft just put them out to pasture. By shills "it's longer" is one of their talking points. It really isn't, the planets are just almost empty. There is a lot of padding for how little there is to each planet. I clock I think ~27 hours doing moderately thorough runs of the first game. This one has what feels like less but takes upwards of 40 hours. Everything is so interconnected and the maps so small a completionist run wouldn't be much longer; enemies don't respawn (XP snowball prevention by shit devs) so if you do miss a quest you'll just be doing it with 0 opposition unless you didn't discover the area it takes you.
>Why are crpgs in decline? RPGS seem like black magic to PUBLISHERS since they cant just throw money at it and get reliable returns like sports, call of duty, WoW, final fantasy XXX, GTA. The market has wised up to passion projects like amalur reckoning and fund assembly line ENTERTAINMENT products like cape movie and shoot game. There's still oblivious financers that bought into scam citizen this or last year, the guys that loaned CD Projket money scratching their head why polish GTA didnt print.Its actually not black magic and you need a WRITER coupled with a LEAD PROGRAMMGER to make a bug free controlled scope product. I've seen several indie games like Vagrus, Suzerain, Disco Elysium (yes this was indie before being popular) with more than serviceable writers but they cant get matched with the money and developers. Instead writer is a sort of DEI spot like HR or the hot lady that is the bosses assistant (ever seen a fat black man as an assistant?) and all the skilled developers work on assassin's creed 12 and the like for steady paychecks. Decline induced by mismatch.
>>544704836>>544704836>>544704836>>544704836wall of text autists should i play DA inquistor?
>>544712183it's alright definitely better than DA V
>>544712183it has mmo gameplay, they polished the bugs and weird looking scenes that got mocked on release.play tainted grail if you want 3D crpgs. shit the oblivion remake is probably better
>>544698351>>544698351>>544698351Owlcat won, you lost froggie.
>>544702559How much arguing internally do you think happened around adding this character?
>>544715737I havent seen a solid internal view of behind the scenes since MCA got pushed out and leaked but typically they have one person do all the writing for a companion/romance and the head designer or just the project lead on small games signs off on it. that's how you get shit like halsin cuckolding with one person writing two different characters
>>544716281All studios should downsize
>>544715737>factory default settings is companion helmets on >prettiest girl is 1 of only 2 characters with a full face helmet You can just imagine the endless office politics that probably surrounded their decisions to put her slightly out of the way and have every other companion badmouth her endlessly. She's a little dumb thing that talks with small words and loves murderhobo'ing. Now in any other game... but this is outer worlds 2.
>>544719384>She's a little dumb thing that talks with small wordsThey didn't want to focus too much on her personality, afterall, she isn't a stunning, brave housekeeping race like Inez.
>>544712183Only if you already played DA:O and DA2 and really want more. Ignore all the grindy collection tasks and just stick to the story and it can pass as an okay game.
Are the angel spells strong enough to stay as paladin or should I respec to a full caster?
>>544719384Why are you retards writing fanfic
>>544719384dam....the saudis gotta save us and buy more game companies
>>544723112you take 1 sacred huntsmen level so you can select animal companions besides horsethen you take smoldon and put the rest in paladin with a reach weapon + enlarge
>>544723112>>544724653paladins can merge spellbooks with angel mythic?
>>544723341prove that didnt happen. Obsidian is a non woke company now?
hopefully microsoft kills obsidian and forces bethesda to go back to elder scrolls
Feargus sabotaged his entire career.
started his career making an icewind dale mod at black isle, ended it making a fallout 3 mod at obsidian. solid mods i guess, but carried by his ass kissing and optics and stealing credit
why no witcher 4 news???they wouldnt shut up about cyberpunk before releasing it
>>544735101good. last crpg they made i read about in game informer. they only make polish gta now
>>544737164I miss gameinformer
>>544737781i think a couple paragraphs and pictures communicated more than all the half baked early access and community managers posting
>>544697750Now that it has been a few days, how is the new RT patch? Has it been balanced properly? Can I finally enjoy my shotgunner/psyker/Overseer run on unfair+ without it being a complete cakewalk? Are any of the other changes they did interesting or fun?
>>544735101It's pozzed
Best solasta party?
>>544759395Twinned haste sorcBard ClericFighterIf you had a fifth it'd be a paladinI don't know shit about solasta that's just basic 5e
Are there any mods for Solasta? Like for the UI?
Sawyer will make a comeback
>>544759395Cleric. You want the spell list and battle is the strongest.Arcane spellcaster. Wizard and sorc are both good (Shock arcanist may be the best)For melee, barb or paladin. Timar Paladin was homebrewed to be good at everything you face.For the last spot, it's Ranger or Bard with scoundrel background. Better than a rogue could ever hope.Ranger is good at melee and bow and makes free rations, Bard has good support and spell list, particlarly lore.
>>544774801they have user created adventures like nwn. 1 person told me they liked them better than the main campaign
>>544787704Oh I like that. But can you mod the UI?
>>544796073UI mods are extremely uncommon for rpgs. I mostly see UI customization for FPS games, only rpg i can recall getting one is Skyrim
>>544797849Didn't Baldur's Gate get one?
>>544698256Dude, knock the underrail u fusion release date by at least 3 more years. All you have right now is a demo video.
>>544798325https://www.nexusmods.com/games/baldursgate3/mods?categoryName=User+Interfaceall these look like minor tweaks, yeah i guess i was imagining UI overhauls
>>544801663No, I meant Baldur's Gate.
>>544803056oooohthey did an enhanced edition which improved the UI, i don't think vanilla had UI mods, mostly just adding content, a few for resolution issues, then some gameplay mods
>>544800789is it still just one person?idk how people read this shit: dev blog's about a game that takes 7 years to make. i rather read celebrity gossip than about unmade games. i think its just a way for loser dev's to talk to people
>>544698256What are the metrics here? Which will sell the most/be the most succesful or just best quality independent of sales? Or Both?
>>544697750Can I play rogue trader and skip all text? I'm not reading all that shit. Also Im going to pirate.
>>544812027owlcat has too much DLC and is pirate recommended. i think they have much less dialogue options to skip to combat compared their pathfinder games
>>544774801idk about UI, but Unfinished Business adds almost everything missing from 5E
How old is Imoen?
>>544825185canonically younger than your PCprobably 18-early 20s
>>544825185>>544829006PC is 18 at start and she's 1-2 years younger
>>544697750What are they doing down there? Looks groovy
i don't know...this dragon fight just didnt feel epic like bg2. abilities have no impact, cant immerse
Can't wait till DLC 3
>>544838079Are they adding a negron companion?
>>544825185Old enough.
>>544838119They haven't confirmed anything. We do know that Starrok said "We can't promise that both of the companions will be romancable" so I assume it's because it's a xeno like Ork or even 'Cron.
>>544838374I wish I could say ork would make no sense but apparently they've been having that be available in one of their recent ttrpgs for some absurd reason.
>>544838079im not replaying a mediocre game for 10 hours of content. waited a year to play RT and it was still buggy and had only 1 DLC out. they shouldnt have listened to feedback and did more stand alones
>>544838710Orks have been occasionally hired on as mercenaries since the early days of 40k. Makes perfect sense.
>>544839195I'm waiting till both S2 DLCs are out then I'll replay
>>544839846Source?
>>544838374There's two new companions in the necron dlc?
>>544843364White Dwarf 218 describing the Battle of Big Toof River and the 4e Orks codex description of Blood Axes.
>>544847879Thanks I'll go look these up
>>544838374Who the fuck is Starrok?
>>544849620some owlcat community manager on reddit. for some reason i know the names of a reddit owlcat poster and reddit fanart maker despite only posting on 4chan....
>Tells you a gratuitously long story in you're pathWhat do?
>>544698256where is the dragon's demand
>>544701576Solasta 2 recently got confirmed for 2026
She's just like me fr fr
>>544851401i dont a release date further than 1 year out or without a major publisher attached
>>544838374They're not going to add an OrkThey'd have to make an entire new set of weapons and armor for itThey won't do that
>>544698256>>544851401wait did people actually LIKE solasta?i found it so boring and forgettable i couldn't even hate it, i didn't care enough to do so
>>544852156ooof if the DLC doesnt make a new asset you know Dark Asset Flip wont have it...
>>544852424Dark Heresy won't have an Ork companion either way, the only game that might have had is Rogue Trader and that ship has sailed
>>544851114Click continue without reading.
I ship them.
>>544853356sorry lanncel arue is for farmers only
I thought the Amaranthine raid would be..more interesting, but even the Armored Ogre + Darkspawn Nerd folded easily. Makes me wonder if the Vigil's siege was more interesting to play.Awakening gameplay changes were gud, but quests and maps been quite..ehAt least they didn't gave us another Deep Roads
Why does Camellia leave the KC to fuck random dudes in the epilogue?
>>544853590all owlkek women are for farmerchads only
I actually didn't expect it but Regill and Greybor have surprisingly good character synergy
Was DAO the last crpg (besides underrail) with soul?
The spirit animals in solasta need more AC. Wtf is my druid supposed to do with a 13 AC summon?
Can he tank for his summon?
Someone tapped into that.
new thread?
>>544853590A bunch of crpgs do this for no reason desu. Just look at DAO or the epilogues of a few BG characters. I guess they don't want them to be tied to your PC, thus making it easier to build sequels
>>544853590The writers (male and female) base it on their own personal experience
And...it's done. A shame we got no proper epilogue, it was boss, then credits, not even a celebrations with the boys.Awakening companions felt..raw, incredible raw, specially how Vellana acts like a discount morrigan with child-like behaviour, Howe and Anders were alright, and Oghren almost had something going, but they didn't give him a proper questline. Everyone was forgettable as fuck>>544853687Dunno anon, while I liked a few things about DA, when you look at it on big lens, a good chunk of what you may call "soul" it's a bunch ofnothing burgers with a neat coat of paint. Besides Jade Empire and Pillars 1 exist
>>544853590KC stands for King Cuck.
>>544858216Justice is best boy
>>544858448I liked him more when he was a green ghost. Couldn't stand looking at Kristoff starved mug, him coming very late into the game also didn't help
>>544698256>secret of the weepstoneThis is shaping up to be super dry
these beetles are ass to fight
>>544811268Just whichever one is best.
I hope Dark Heresy sells well so we can vet a kino only war crpg
>>544863404What will be the token xeno for only war?
>>544862579Is that Solasta 2? Damn, it's kinda ugly.
Are there any RPGs that allow you to talk to yourself like DOS1?
>>544864457Thats 1
>>544864178Eldar PoW
>>544864607
>>54470827640k obviously. That's the setting which lends itself really well to gameplay with tons of cool tech, space magic, enemies, equipment, places and all other stuff space opera needs. And it's an IP easy to get since GW doesn't give a fuck about vidya and so hands it over to whoever asksExpanse is intentionally shit and boring setting. It's very gimmick is that it's so grounded and mundane there is no that idealized space opera stuff in it. Mankind even failed to properly colonize solar system, can't leave it, can't even terraform planets, armor, tech and locations look samey and generic because anything more cool would be too fantastical. No melee combat and jedi powers or ayys everywhere eitherIt's not inherently wrong on it's own but it's a fucking terrible setting for a game. It was designed to tell a particular story and not with gameplay in mind. And this game story will HAVE to orbit that original story and be wary to not intrude on it and actual protagonists from that show/book. Won't let you make any actual choices that would shape the world since that wouldn't fit with tv show.I expect it to be like that Lotr jrpg game at best where you have notGimili, notAragorn and notLegolas which follow in Fellowship footsteps, but can't ever actually reach them or do anything distinct, but they were totally important in stopping Sauron. Or like Telltale Games of ThronesThose two games should just be reversed. Expanse should be crpg very, very focused on a story and dialogue like disco, because there is fucking nothing else in it. Also make it completely non canon to the show/books and with playable book protagonists so you can actually make some decisions. And not the way they make itTheir 40k game should be an action rpg with AAA values, combat and explosions everywhere and other stuff like this. This is what 40k was designed around. Rogue Trader in particular would work great as a Mass Effect clone.
>40kfags endlessly malding that not everything revolves around their dolliesyawn
>>544853673Yeah, because both are retarded edgelords pretending to be reasonable.
>>544868018>*turns off the game*
>>544864178Eldar ranger/corsair disguised as human
>>544868856Might be kinda cool if it's obvious to the player but not the characters
>>544867140They can do whatever bullshit they want with the protomolecule. There's an evil space empire and shit in the later books. You wouldn't even need it for melee. Implants and power armor already exist.
>>544868856I thought Yrliet would be this way>Oh Rogue Trader, you simply MUST meet my lady in waiting, Yrliet. One of the local mutants.>She's a bit odd, and so tall and unfeminine, but I'm sure you'll find her amusing as I do!
>>544784837The original filter was a bit strong. Only farseers should have that.
>>544853673
>all I need is a cold iron bladeAh jeez all I have are these room temperature blades
How is the new RT update?
>>544873381Pretty good. New items for Ulfar and the elftards. Complete overhaul of priest, IG officer, and naval officer.
>>544873803Was the horrendous balance actually fixed? I couldn't stand walking all over combat encounters just because the DLCs existed.
>>544874542Well the bladedancer/executioner has received nerfs. It's not as much of an I Win button as it used to be. Carnival of Misery doesn't work as it used to. Still pretty powerful.
I don't know why demons don't use this manouver more. It'd be really effective if I didn't have mass delay poison and actually had to snipe dretches
>>544868971Yeah, maybe the choice is work with her in secret and protect her from Commissar etc. Or rat her out/kill her yourself
>>544875048It's too logical for them. They are chaotic evil.
>>544874721I just remember playing my non-optimal build on unfair+ and walking through encounters without a single care before even completing act 1. I saw they made level progression take more exp, but I don't know if that would have fixed the issue
>>544874542Nah. Outliers like BD/Exe were nerfed, but origin rework made the other origins OP, priest is especially cancer now. And also new strong items you can get so Ulfar and Yrliet are much stronger. XP is scaled back so early game balance isn't messed up, no more dighting Aurora with 2nd archetype, but game still becomes easy after mid act 2.
>>544875298Apparently level progression is a bit jumpy. You're cruising along, then have these big spikes of XP needed to go from level 15 or 16 or whatever. I haven't actually played it yet, just read the notes.
>>544875347Buffing the other origins instead of nerfing psyker was intentional
>>544876105MILLHOUSE MANASTORM
>>544874542Some things were balanced and other things are more unfair than before.Blade dancer was nerfed pretty hard. It's still strong but you can't just turn your brain off and slaughter the entire encounter.Naval officer is an absolute monster now thoughever. Abelard is unironically stronger than he was before.Importantly, astrum militarum commander and commissar got rebalanced and are actually solid and fun to play as a variety of classes. Not as strong as naval officer, but strong. Priest got some buffs too.Act1 balance is a tough prospect because the game has to be playable by people without void shadows to bloat their levels. However if you're not prepared in act2 those certain footfall encounters can still shit on you.
>>544846702no, he meant the companions of DLC 3 and 4, one each
she got bleached after retvrning to the ship
>>544879567>me when the inquisitor who hired me to get rid of his problems booked it before paying me
Can my Fem-Lord Captain make clone test tube babies with best girl Jae????
>Me casting SiroccoHahaha yes, YES!>Me having Sirocco cast on meWhat the fuck man?! This is BULLSHIT!
>>544853673There is a camp banter where they discuss the best direction to slit someone's throat.
>>544883958Perhaps I should have them together in the party more often, sounds like they've have a lot to talk about
>>544884229It's always a bit awkward for me because they serve the same role in the party, ie, melee damage dealer.
Well Larry I hoped you were gonna have a bro arc, but the focus of your character development is gonna be fuckmeat for the femcels.
>>544884464Larry doesn't look happy
>>544884464>first sentence mentions bear sexWhy are people so obsessed with that? Either the plebbitors thinking it's le hecking best thing ever or the /v/fags thinking it's woke humiliation ritual
>>544884432Nothing wrong with having two melee damage dealersEspecially if you play on a difficulty where having an AC of 35-40 is enough for most fights
>>544884464This reminds me of that fanfic where an Eldar guy gets gangrapped by female guardsmen.
>>544697750>Outer Worlds lost to Kingmaker
>>544884920Sure, but the thing is that I always run Camellia with me, unless it doesn't make sense for my character to kill her in the basement, as my main or secondary melee damage dealer. With dual rapiers, mythic light armor focus assault (which works with mithral medium armor like the chainmail of comradery, and extended divine power she just becomes a blender in combat.
>>544885407>it doesn't make sense for my character NOT to kill her in the basement
>>544697750how is wotr so powerful?
>>544885710Cam Cam carries the game
>>544885407>I always run Camellia with me, unless it doesn't make sense for my character to kill her in the basementLich should've been able to kill and resurrect companions.
>>544744418Abelard is shitting on Melee Pyros because he can hit 5 times per round and pick and Executor second class.Commissar Dunks on Sanctic OfficersStaves are dogshit unless its Navigator onesPower Swords are dogshit again because best Sword Dancer build is Priest Origin and not PyroAxes are Kino for Abelard nowShotguns rape act 1Kibellah with 2 hander is now optimal buildIdira with Psyber is the best buffer in the gameCassia's Point of Interest nerf is actually an indirect nerf to Reveal the Light aka her support build. If you're going damage route it changes nothing.Grand Strategist is still the most broken class in the game and you need at least one. I personally always make MC one since it gives me Diviner Wizard vibes.Argenta claps with any ranged weapon because of how hard her origin(Priest) was buffed.Xeno companions are at their lowest low. Anything Drukhi can do - Kibellah does better because of her starting class. Anything Ranger can do - Argenta does better because of her Origin AND starting class.Xeno Swords are once again Swords and not Daggers + You can use Dex instead of Str for damage with them hence Blade Dancer nerfs are actually buffs.Warrior is worthless on MC in 100% of situations now because Abelard exists. There's NOWAY for you to be better than him with this class.Henrix is decent because his starting feat is a good one but still Melee Pyros are not the best pick now. Needing 1 turn of self-burn preparations is too slow compared to Abelard Slapping 5 hits from the moment he gets his turn.Commissar therotically does highest damage per shot in the game via At All Cost ability - you need a gun that can only shoot in bursts like the starting Laser Pistol that shoots 2 times at the leastest - that way it can land on enemies in-between you and your ally. You can deal 70-damage shot before Abelard even proclaims you as a Lord-Captain in prologue.
>tfw no chaotic good Lich path themed around damning your own soul to save the worldIt's not like the campaign takes place over a long enough timeline that would usually drive a lich to go insane and hate all life
Does this thing have some additional implicit rules and limits for triggering, or it's simply bugged to shit? I think it works about 1/3 of times it's supposed to according to description, and I can't figure out the exact mechanics behind it.
What's up with inXile Entertainment? They made absolute kino with Wasteland 3 and Torment and now their next game is going to be a first person action RPG like Outer Worlds? Why?
>>544887107It's crap. If you want to parry just be Fleet Commander.See>>544886760
Anyone know if this part about "the secret language of the druids" means that non-druid KCs cannot understand what Ulbrig says here, or is it just meaningless flavour text?I have no idea since this is my first playthrough with Ulbrig, and have been a druid since the beginning
>>544887181I was thinking about a meme build abusing it with 0ap reload pistol in other hand. I remember from my first playthrough that there was also a sword with the same attack on parry effect, but apparently they moved it somewhere from act 2 planet rewards.
>>544887662Just put the pistol in Right Hand and something Melee in the left hand then.
>Goblin cave start of act 2 flcLol this shit is more dangerous than drezen or anything else in the act
>>544887164Microsoft delusions.Suits believe FPS genre can be sold in millions by concept and not because normies desire braindead backbone-focused gameplay above all.>>544887995Drezen is easier than the collab location though.
>>544887662The fact that sword/pistol isn't a more common playstyle says a lot about owlcat fans. That's peak 40k leader loadout yet faggots only care about minmaxing.
>>544888086Thats what im saying these shits have improved vital strike spam fire snakes that I already ran out of prot fire communal, andanaged a 70 crit scorching ray(on hard it'd be 140 on unfair). Already forced to hit r midway (at lvl 7)
>>544888387And managed*
>>544887782>When crit or parry with a weapon in the main hand, automatically attack with lowest AP cost attack from the off handThis can work with a melee weapon in the right hand and pistol in the left, but on paper this looks like an infinite pistol attack chain as long as you parry, because you're supposed to be able to reload after each such shot. Probably won't function as intended in the game because something in the chain of interactions enabling this will definitely break.
>>544888387Sorry meant to say: the Undead half of it.Just use Grease or Stinky Cloud against them or better yet - Haunting Mist>>544888828There're gloves that allow you to parry with ranged weapons.
lol
>>544888957I have all of those but my corruptor doesn't have selective yet(needs lvl 8 because arcanist) so I'd just gib myself. They also have much better initiative than me since they're lvl 10 and have more dex, once my grease/grasp/mist/web is down they can't do much
Are there any good CRPG creepypastas?
>>544889415Good news for you then. You don't need selective. Corrupter doesn't bypass Antipoison buffs of your group.>Initiative problems>ArcanistThat's the issue. Diviner talks are not a meme.
>>544889673The arcanist is just a merc though
>>544889673Why the fuck wouldn't it pierce my delay poison. Oh well guess I can use that without that
>>544890053Owlcat decided so.Your Heightened Element also does not bypass anti-energy abjuration buffs of your allies. Try Fireballing Arue.
Shadowcaster woljiff makes far more sense story wise than his bullshit garbage base rogue
>>544890398Shadowcaster is about Wizarding and not Stealing.
Lich path best path
>>544867140Imagine if they did a Battlestar Galatica CRPG instead with procedually generated or at least, randomized Cylon imposters among your companions?, it would be a novel concept making it a peak thriller rpg
Imo Owlcat should have made the "Mass Effect Clone" a Dragon Age clone and made Warhammer Fantasy RPG instead of Expanse. A high production quality WHF RPG would sell like hotcakes. Expanse is boring.
>>544875048They are literally animals anon, even the smartest demon, Baphomet, ended up being a huge retard
Haven't touched RT in months, If I load up an existing save with my Navy guy will his build be fucked due to all the changes?
>>544890795The whole shadow of ygfeles fits him very well, he even has unique shadow animations and all the stats for it and there's nothing you stopping you from stealing while being a mage, in fact the best way to make a steal character at lvl 1 is an exploiter with dimension slide if we're talking extends to tabletop
>>544885321Aru looks way hotter...wtf happened? How did that frog become this?
>Solos WOTR
>>544892452>Dies to lvl 2 encounter with +30 ab and double damage
>>544892452>Summon 1(Single) skeleton>Is immune to literally everything entire Mindflayer race can do
>>544892642Reminder this can be encountered in kingmaker at that lvl and is not a joke at least it's optional
>>544892452Anon, BG3 is a lv 10 adventure...
Can you respec the player origin in RT with toybox? I want to test some shit.
>>544889536Owlcat.exe
>>544892452>zaps you
>>544893858>Oc classKinda hampered by being absolutely worthless at the start
>>544893858>>544894085Isn't that Magic Deceiver?
>>544894308Yeah
>>544894308Magic deceiver has like 2 casts at the start or something is what I mean
>>544894085The early game is rough, yes, but you're not completely useless. Living Deity can get a pet at level 1 with Nature Mystery and Time Manipulator can completely refresh their spell slots once per rest at level 4. Plus you can make some pretty nasty spell combos early, like Sleep+Color Spray for an AoE color spray, enemies in the early levels have fairly low HD so you Color Spray is a pretty stacked spell. At level 4 you get Haunting Mists, which lets you cheese any hard fight in the chapter because the duration is infinity, doesn't trigger hostilities and the WIS drain will eventually kill anything. Besides that I like spamming Light of Heaven for 1 temp HP and a -1 to enemies' attack rolls or demoralize to make use of your high CHA.After Grey Garrison you have Slow+Hold Person which basically acts like Mass Hold Monster, a level 9 spell, so the game really opens up.
>>544894582Wizard also gets only 2 Haunting Mists in the maze.On Unfair you spend like a week in the Maze and then half a month in the besieged city because you travel solo and farm exp by killing all the minibosses alone.
>want to be a chaotic good KC in WoTR>want to save the world by bending the rules and being an overly pragmatic dick at times for the greater good>get to choose between hippy nature music Azatas, paladin-y Dragons, or lmao wacky party TricksterAm I the only one that feels there is at least one missing narrative niche for the KC in WoTR?
>>544895276It's just that the side of good is cucked in fantasy genre.Look at Mistra's chosen in DND and tell me they prefer women in bed.
>>544895276Trickster should have been Fey and played completely seriously, like the Lantern King in Kingmaker, instead of that wacky lol so randum *wink at the camera* cringefest. Or they could have gone for something completely different and have us play a Protean for the CN mythic path.
>>544887164CRPGG studios are cursed, I keep telling you guys
Post the best crpg bvlls!
>>544895276>hippy nature music AzatasDunno about the rest of /crpgg/, but Azata felt less like "hippy nature lovers" and more like just a bit more serious take on Trickster and its anticsThe whole island you get as an Azata just feels like a collection of some redditor's ideas about what is considered "funny"
>>544887406I don't really know anymore from my non-playthroughs, but I think my KCs couldn't understand.In tabletop RPGs, Druidic is always a secret language you automatically learn when you choose the druid class. You have no way to learn the language otherwise, not even by spending points on it. Houserules aside.
>>544895276>>544895387In almost all genres desu. Just look at fictions made in Asia. Chaotic Good doesn't have the stoic/righteous appeal of the others good brackets and their current rl counterparts are hipsters and wholesome chungus activitsts.Either that or they are Krrrrazy Ikeman who do shit for the lulz
>>544896719So you could say..this was the Mystery of the Droods all along?
>>544896719Aight, seems nice if only druid KCs can understand what Ulbrig says here, gives some reactivity to the class you play
>>544887782>>544888828Okay, I've experimented with that shit and it's pretty nuts>Reload/parry AoO/fire/reload sequence seems to be indefinitely repeatable, as long as there's an enemy next to you and you parry>If there were multiple enemies attacking and you parried more than one, an attack is queued for each one>The triggered attack gives arch militant stacks, so it should give all other attack-related stacksThis should be particularly good with pistols that do not have a generic single shot, for example kelermorph pistols which only have burst or eldar blast pistols.However it feels like this thing crosses the line of being a cool build mechanic and becomes an actual unfun abuse. Damage is basically infinite as long as you keep parrying, and even if you fail few parries, you have your right hand attacks to trigger it because of AM's 100% crit chance.
>>544898847Forgot to add that I've only tested with a melee main weapon. I don't know what would happen with a pistol in right hand, it may unearth more hilarious interactions like for example a burst shot where multiple hits crit queuing multiple off hand attacks, or maybe not.
>>544898847>>544899194Abelard bros are eating good.
>>544899194To trigger it on crit, primary weapon needs to a be melee weapon. Considering the wording in description, parrying with a pistol using gloves shouldn't trigger it as well.
>>544871913Good edit.
>>544889536They're all from Fallout 3 and from before this website's present state, but I don't remember them and never saved them.
Time to be honest, did you or did you not?
>cool older bro type companion>cute love interest type companion>she denies you>flirts with him as the game goes on>they get together because the heart wants what the heart wantsCRPG for this feel?
>>544904792Seasons of Loss
I just realized you get a free IMP merc in JA3. That would have been helpful but only for being a mule and training militia, wouldn't be worth losing the slot for possible banter in an active team.
>>544895276>I want to be chaotic without being chaotic
>This little faggot has his own portrait????????? I thought he is just some irrelevant OC donut steel NPC
>>544906598He doesn't have his own portrait in that sense. Elan has one of those turn-order portraits, too.
>>544884464He's just gonna be a safe-sexy Marazhai, or a more freaky Jimmy
>>544906598The fact that he was a Hit Dice of fucking 36 at like 10 years old should be way more disturbing.
>>544884952Link?
What makes a crpg a must-consider for you?
>>544911910hot babes and solid brosI have no interest in freaks or characters made solely to be "unique".
>>544911910Enemies that can fight back
>>544911910entertaining plotfun combatsmoochable dollies
>>544698337tranny vn
>>544698337Coomer VN where you cuck Harry Du BoisNot a CRPG though
>>544911910meaningful branching consequences that aren't just good result/bad result.anticipates and accounts for edge cases and creative attempts by the playergood exploration that isn't just "go here to the next thing" and a world that feels alive
>>544911910romanceif it has no romance it isn't a crpg, BG1 only became a real CRPG in the hands of Beamdog
>>544911910bear sex
>>544914330The average crpg "romance" consists of 2-3 pages worth of text and a fade to black cutscene. I seriously don't get why so many people put so much importance into this kind of "content".
I wanna smooch her.>>544911910Evil women I can smooch.
>>544914957It sparks discussion and fan art, albeit of varying quality
>>544911910Roleplaying options
Why is he so happi..
>>544916823because hes retarded
>>544914957Because they actually want to play with dollies and read romance novels, but won't allow themselves
Why does rogue trader have a faction system when its super easy to grind and doesn't effect anything gameplay wise?
If you go here second it's all spooky.
>>544918796
wow Kibbelah, how come the rogue trader lets you have two giant swords!
>>544918796not a crpg
Do you, anon?
>>544919005
>>544919801Not really, because if that was a thing, everywhere would smell like piss.
Its amazing that after all the dnd games pool of radiance still hasn't been topped.
>>544920297Who knows anon, maybe we will get so used to smell that it wouldn't bother us in a dozen generations.
>it's okay that she yelled at me, lied to me, insulted me, spied on me, stole from me, slapped me, beat me until I bled, destroyed my treasured possessions, and tried to murder me>deep down she really cares :)
Aaaaaand Witch Hunt is done. DAO DLCs were kinda ass, won't lie. And it hurts a bit that this xpac plot hook got entirely dropped in the sequels, it is what it is.Part of me want to give 2 a try, cause Isabella is hot and I quite liked Anders as a companion, but people say that the combat manages to be worse than Inquisition somehow
>>544921446>Aaaaaand Witch Hunt is done. DAO DLCs were kinda ass, won't lie.Shit taste.>And it hurts a bit that this xpac plot hook got entirely dropped in the sequels, it is what it is.It comes back in 2 but you'll wish it didn't.
>>544921425What do you have against romancing a black woman?
>>544915050
>>544921446>IsabellaShe's a whoreslut, even while dating you
>>544921425Who are you talking about, anon?>>544920535>AD&DAnon, I..
>>544918852https://youtu.be/YnqXI_gcPMUKino
Larian=true cuck kinoOwlcat=false cuck kino
>>544921594But they were kinda lame anon..too short, companions kinda eh, and the end are not satisfying most of the time, Leliana was alright and the Darkspawn AU had some good things on it, although twas short. Awakening felt rushed and this one also feels that way, but worse desu.Combat got way better in Awakening though, then new talenta are a godsend.>>544921636Don't care, I want her doin squats on my dick while I finger tavern whores
>>544922531Awakening and Witch Hunt are the only ones that really matter. The other 3 are whatever but thise 2 are kino. Better as a Cousland chad I reckon.
>>544921446You are going to hate Anders in da2
>>544921096india did this with pooping
>>544911910being cuckolded
Best traveling companions who don't join the party?
>>544923268I played as a Male Cousland and had very few situations where my lineage mattered. Fergus wasn't even mentioned.The only cool aspect was the whole headbutting with Nathaniel, but the game felt a tad rushed, we became buddies with me too soon, I feel.
>>544921641>Who are you talking about, anon?He's talking about the "I can fix her" tomboy from Dispatch.
>>544926427you can also marry anora and become prince consort but like most things from origins it ends up not mattering at all in future games.
>Game has portraits>No way to make player character actually resemble portraitInsta-drop for me.
Playing Dragon Age after Veilguard feels like watching the original Star Wars trilogy after the Disney trilogy. It's hard to care when you know some retards took the IP and absolutely just shat on it.
>>544927364>He actually played VeilguardJust start hormones now. The longer you deny that you are trans, the harder the transition becomes. Catch it early enough and have a shot at Hunter Schaffer-tier.
How do you actually slog through WOTR on turn-based mode? I'm trying to play it for the first time, and It took me 5 hours to go through the tutorial dungeon. I feel like you could never actually complete the game at this pace.
>>544927870General rule for me is only use turn based for big boss fights and the occasional miniboss.
>>544927128a gripe of mine as well, but i just to ambiguous ones to get around it, ie some dude fully covered in armor/cloaked with a hood/family crest/organization symbol/some blank silhouette
>>544927364That's why I still haven't played Veilguard. I learned my lesson with nutrek, you're not supposed to watch or play new sequels to beloved IPs that have come out in the last ten years, they're all like this.
>>544926427>The only cool aspect was the whole headbutting with Nathaniel,Damn your taste keeps getting worse. Nathaniel is the perfect second for the warden and Amaranthine was given to Howe for killing your family.
>>544920535>bricks your PC
>>544927364Thankfully I don't have autism so this isn't a problem for me.
>>544928468The gold box edition on steam fixes this I've heard.
>>544927364Does Failguard have cuckkino that can stand up to Isabella or Bvlligan cucking the frmale Warden?
>>544927870>tfw don't understand how people play WoTR without turn-based mode on 24/7
>>544928739This is the remake to the old gold box version, its 3e
>>544927870Most of the early fights you turn it off, but most of the later fights you're forced to have it on every time because random ass vrocks teleport in and debuff the party, and other random bullshit shows up with energy drain auras like they're punishing you for not having turn based on all the time.
>>544928740Pure fucking gibberish
She is not saying what I think she's saying, right?
>>544916823Enchantment
>>544927870>How do you actually slog through WOTR on turn-based mode? You have autism and no life and are willing to devote 150 hours of your life to a single playthroughEvery RTWP playthrough plays out like>cast all your buffs>roll through the map in 2 minutes IRLEvery Turn-Based playthrough does the same thing, but takes 10x longer for zero benefitGo RTWP for 99% of fights, go turn-based for the super hard boss fights
CRPG cuckoldry tier list
>>544929742No, anon, surely the demonic succubus prostitute never did any sexual favors for the most horrific or disgusting clients imaginable
>>544930145I mean, you could mental gymnastic your way out of thinking that if you assume she did other horrific shit like assassinations or capturing escaped slaves, but still, why have the implication? It'd be even worse if I was romancing her.
>>544930530>but still, why have the implicationBecause she did it, and it's simply the honest truth of the person. Your only choice is to accept it or send her away.Doubly so if you've chosen to romance her.
Haven't played Wrath since the hay furry viking DLC. How are the DLC's released after that? Lord of nothing and masks.
>>544926772THis shit is just porn
>>544697750it mogsall of Obsidian's work
>>544930530Surely MY sex demon was a virginal pure waifu Thank GOD they avoided the implication
>>544702559>>544719384she doesn't look attractive to me. i wouldn't look her way irl and i don't have high standards. is it the hair? she doesn't register as a woman
>>544929742Owlcat knew what they were doing, writing that in.
Why is there almost always an Owlkek cuck/humiliation thread up on /v/
>>544904464It's the last achievement I got
>>544929742she's saying what she's not saying
>>544895387>side of good
>>544932069One thing is to imply she fucked humans or humanoid demons, and another is to imply she fucked this thing.
>>544933118bigot
>>544933118the worst part is mr. meaty here was actually polite, it's Arue herself that brings up the sexual aspect. completely unnecessary.
Serius questin is Safana in SOD actually cuckshit or is that shitposting?
>>544906598Everyone has some kind of model for turn based, anon.Don't be a retard
>>544935306>Serious question>about cucking>For beamdog's OC garbageWhat went wrong in your life?
>>544926971Anora marriage flags are a tad buggy, at least in EA play version, I did the whole political play with her and married her during the Landsmet, but the game didn't recognize that we were married in the epilogue, nor did Awakening.Heck, Awakening flags are weird, ending slides said I romance Zevran, when our friendship level wasn't even that high>>544928197Wdym anon? I kinda liked him, but I try to RP a little, you know? My PC was still processing what the Howes did, but he gave him a chance and I brought him in for the Mother's fight. It was interesting making him regain his standing with the common people and all. Making him be the hero he wanted to be when he was younger, but the campaign is short af, so part of it felt rushed, compared to Alistar becoming hardened at DAO base campaign.
>>544935738I heard about it on /v/, wondering if it's true.Since Beamdog has dogshit writing so sounds plausible
>>544926772Isn't she quite alright? Or did the leaks show something? The worst thing that I see people saying about her, is that she cucks her bf, and that's it
>>544936143no she doesn't, that's the other girl Blonde Blazer
>>544936023There are so many questions that come up, like 'why not ask on /v/ then', 'why not check youtube quickly since you waste time here anyway', 'why even care in the first place', but it';s not like this thread is any better with revisiting Arue shitposting for the umpteenth time
>>544935738Safana is a BG1 character not beamdog
>>544936298>SODRead more carefully.
>>544930145>>544929742Anon, she literally femdomemd and amazoness raped an Azata angel into becoming an incubus, she's vile like thst
>>544936023Ye
>>544936431You're right, I did miss that in the previous post, I apologize.But now I'm curious too, what does happen in SOD?
>>544935306pretty sure she robs and leaves you at the end but the bigger part of that is she appears in BG2 as an enemy with Coran.
>>544936023She fucks Coran at the begining, then romances you, then leaves and robs you also shags some other dude. That's why she is an enemy in BG2
>>544852271I wish the devs would try a system that isn't 5e. 5e is just boring rubbish.
>>544936693see >>544936573
>Didn't bring someone with touch of law to vescavor queen>Dismissal -> fail to overcome spell resistance>Dismissal -> fail to overcome spell resistanceMotherfucker. Easier to just beat the bitch with weapons to death
>>544937001The stupidly high SR on virtually every enemy in WotR is why I barely bother with spellcasters in my team except for Cam for buffs and skeletons.
>>544936838But muh it's all normies are playing
>>544937137Mythic Spell Pen and the equipment means it is pretty consistent after lost chapel, but Vescavor queen is not covered
>>544937137The SR with touch of law definitely pass it but you know I gave sosiel community first
>>544934939She's always does this >Oh woe is me, I've been a very very bad girl. By the way see that meatball? I fucked that.What the fuck is wrong with her?
>>544933118>>544934939If they are following a bit of 1e demonology here, blobguy can't fuck because is just not his nature, he's a greed demon who hoard shit and eats a tonProbably would still pull a Jabba and force tons of inferior "humanoids" in skimpy clothes to dance and rub against his greasy skin
>>544937415>I locked myself in prison cause I fucked evryone in Dresden but you, Knight COmmanderWhat did Arue mean by this?
>>544936573What was this dude even expecting? Her entire character is that she's a flirty bitch and then betrays you.
>>544937415Twas why I mindbroke this hoe into becoming a demon again, then shoved her in the cuckchair while I banged Shamira and Noticula.Unchained Demonchads keep winning
>>544937632To be less gross than Viconia, I guess
>>544937656>Demonchad walking into Drezen.
>>544938429rip anon
>>544938429Hell yeah brother! I still find it funny how no asks the KC what the fuck he's been up to when you do the Demon Questline in ACT 5, since he canonically stays a week in Noticula palace if you demands to be her consort, must have been one hell of a experience
>>544698337new telltale games weg
>>544911910power trip I don't want to play an RPG that force you to be a typical normalfag
>>544936573why am i supposed to think "cuckold roleplaying games" is just shitposting?
>>544921425BB won
>>544939323Cause it is exceedingly rare, it's something retarded devs thought would bridge bg1 and 2 well for a strong 'independent woman' and many of the instances people try to force as cuckoldry or humiliation rituals are either shitposting or exaggeration (see cuck used for fucking everything)
>>544933115but regill, the farmers who cucked me were chaotic good
>chartfag thread>entire thread is cuckschizo seethingNew lows every day for /crpgg/
>>544698337Garbage telltale VN that is also episodic so you cant even play the whole thing until 2 yeara from now
>underrail actually makes reddittors seethe now because styg laughed at BG3 and called modern lotr gay>there's literally a dedicated schizo who has been crying about it for several yearsjesus fuck
>>544940223>reddittors seethe now because stygsource?
>>544939628cuck coded post
>>544940223>ctrl + f "underrail">5 mentions, 2 are positive, 1 is you, 1 is OPIs this... "schizo" in the room with us now, anon?
>>544940223>4chan bros someone's disagreeing with me on reddit because I'm too le based help
>>544940049>2 weeks from nowfixed
>>544936573umm, she broke it off, so you're not with her anymore, therefore you can't call this cuckoldingt.owlcat fan
Why haven't you played Wasteland 3?
>>544941949She cheats on you before breaking it off.Not sure why you try to pivot everything back to owlcat
>>544940223Tf are you talking about anon? I don't recall anyone saying this
>>544941998I did.Rocket tag ranged builds were too good, and barely a challenge was left in the vanilla campaign after the first 10 hours.And the only locale that was kidney fun doing shit and interacting with was the Reagan settlement
>>544942213I don't remember that, and remember the combat feeling pretty engaging throughout, for the most part. Aren't rockets rare and expensive anyhow? I didn't fire more than a couple I think.
>>544942045The BG fan fears the mirror
>>544942575Rocket tag gameplay, not the literal rocket launchers
>>544940223Someone post Styg's tweet where he asked some streamer to play his game instead of BG3, while calling it gay and woke.
>>544943343How embarrassing
>>544941998I don't care for post apocalyptic settings
>>544939628>exceedingly rare>Dragon Age Origins, II, Veilguard>Baldur's Gate I,II,III>Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous and Rogue Trader>Expeditions: Rome
>>544941998>Weeeeeeeellllllll... come backit's in your head now, your welcome
Playing divinity 2 and found the escape boat in the dungeon, however it seems to me like it's worth exploring the whole fort first, right?
>>544937632It's unusual and unexpected in a game for such a thing to happenUsually even the flirtatious characters stay loyal
>>544942045Being "on a break" is no excuse for cheating.
>>544943943Tf you talking about anon? Who cucks you in DAO and WOTR? Cleopatra is a flirty slut, but I also don't remember her cucking you
>>544944347Baldur’s gate 2 came out 25 years ago
>literally had to dig up art from some obscure chinkshit mobile game ad to fit the exact character concept I want for my Scaled Fist Monk (arrogant kung-fu lady with jade-like beauty)No wonder every single person hates this class.
>>544945295A.I tools exist bwo, now you can even mimic artstylesAlso, she's cute, can I smooch her?
>>544945178nta but femcels get cucked by morrigan and caeso at least
>>544945178Cuckschizos found out about the ritual so they’ve added some new fanfic
>>544946089On Morrigan case, you literally have to ask for it to happen.Playing a female Legate is haram of the highest level (Even if the portraits are hot)
>>544946328To this I still don't understand why there is schizos screaming "cuck cuck, cuck!" everywhere in every single board of this site, where did they come from? Are they ironic weebs who "played" too much corruptioge and now seek actual hobbies or what? Did the brain of all our 2000s posters rot in unison after years of NEET practices?
>let your love interest sleep with someone else or one of you will die! pregnancy will result by the way.>y-you had to ask for it!smells like shart
>>544945812Oh I'm well aware, but AI always looks distinctly uncanny valley when placed alongside human drawn art for me. Nothing against people using it for their own needs, its just not my thing.>Also, she's cute, can I smooch her?Junior has eyes, but cannot see Mount Tai...Maybe if you get to know her after pouring her a cup of Oolong tea.
>>544946759GG tourists
>>544946759The lasting damage of the /pol/ mind virus.
>>544947186>>544947319you guys really do more damage than good to your cause with posts like this
>>544947468>t. /pol/
>>544946916That's settled then! Hope I get to perform some dual-cultivation with her too..
>shut the fuck up, Xfag!>crickets>shut the fuck up, Xnigger!>crickets>shut the fuck up, Xtroon!>crickets>shut the fuck up, Xcuck!>To this I still don't understand why there is schizos screaming "cuck cuck, cuck!" everywhere in every single board of this site, where did they come from? Are they ironic weebs who "played" too much corruptioge and now seek actual hobbies or what? Did the brain of all our 2000s posters rot in unison after years of NEET practices?
>>544940223Doesn't styg say every slur under the sun on his discord? Was it really him shit talking bg3 that drew the line.
>>544947651By the way, I haven't settled on an alignment yet. I definitely want to do Gold Dragon later on since that's obviously the most thematic (regardless of the alignment restriction), but I can't tell if I want to start as a "well meaning, but rigid" Lawful Good, full on lawtwist LN who eventually reforms her ways, or just your typical Wuxia side character who will callously massacre entire clans over minor slights in the name of "justice".
Want to replay NWN1.Class recommendation for le fun maximization?
>>544948658You can never go wrong with Fighter/Champion of Torm with long/bastard sword and shield combo.
>>544948658I forget if shadowdancer is in nwn1. But if so do a sneak attack+crit build
>>544945295>No wonder every single person hates this class.For me it's the forced lawful alignment in most systems. And yes, I'm still salty that WoTR has most hybrid classes except for brawler
high af playing RT
>>544940223what did you expect from a codex fag ?
>>544948658I feel like you're pretty much obliged to do something melee or with a bow for martial oriented. It gets old quick having your sole henchmen as a meat shield. I really liked that game but I think a lot of it really was nostalgia goggles and what else existed when it was new, I played through not too long ago and it was crude and annoying with the main campaign in certain parts.
>>544931876What was the deal with Avowed? Tax writeoff loss scam?
>>544947468>your causeplease go outside, talk to people, it's not too late for you
Its always funny watching incel shut-ins tell other incel shut-ins to go outside and talk to people
whats any of this got to do with playing roles?
>>544951603I’m playing the role of schizo on 4chan.org
>"should i play pillars 1 today?"what excuse will i come up with for not playing it this timei don't know why but despite wanting to start playing it, i subconsciously sabotage every attempt i make
>>544953287why would you torture yourself with that turd
>>544953287Its snow expansion IWD throwback was real cozy. Best part of it really.
>>544951603Modding balls hurt 3 to make my dollies pretty
>>544953864Idira looks really good there
Cassia never really has anything interesting to add if you take her on missions
>>544955589She doesn't really have much going for her outside her romance. I mean sure she mogs damage-wise but that's all.
>>544955589She has a few amusing interactions, but not very many unfortunately. The most stand out one is the one I mentioned in one of the former threads when she's shocked at meeting mutants in the lower decks.
>>544955589Something about colors
My game of the year of past and future is whatever Fallout 2 mod I said I was going to play probably Sonora and Planescape Torment
>>544955589Blah blah colors blah blah *gasp! L..Lord Captain!*
>>544955589first companion i never listened to or read. well, while actively taking them every time any way and not just corner stuffing them like zevran, jack, uhhh that gay bg3 mage
>>544955873Even damage-wise she feels pretty overrated. Especially now with the Abelard/Argenta buffs but even before that with Idira/Jimmy/Psyker RT
>>544888197Both my MC and Henry do it, albeit the MC primarily users pysker abilities. He mostly carries the needle pistol and force sword for show/personal vendetta's.
>>544955589There are interactions where she clues you in that someone is lying or not.
>>544959324I think some people settle on her early on as a damage dealer and never learn to surpass her with better characters.
>>544959562For me it's primitive sword/bolt pistol. My bolt pistol is also for show (because they suck if you're not chaos.)
>>544959562I like to use the shotgun pistol to knock people onto their ass
List of well designed classes in pillars>monk >rogue>paladin
Outerworlds 2 is the best crpg since new vegas.
A CRPG, but you customize the dollies in your party (and they're actually relevant instead of mute observers)
>>544961473Cipher and chanter are both great
>>544962119Solasta
Autism be dammed, my girl knows how to rape people
Telling Cassia you're having fish tonight
>>544962561>"L-Lord Captain!
Steam begs me to buy that Colony Ship game every time I open it. Is it any good?
>>544963359If you liked age of decadence you will like colony ship.
>>544963583That is one tranny looking sister argenta
Why was BG3 so ridiculously commercially successful compared to the numerous better crpgs that came out around the same time?
>>544963805Well whatever the reason, we can be sure it has nothing to do with the Baldur's Gate name, since there is not proof of this hypothesis.
Enfeeble or invigorate?
If the og baldurs gate games are so good why did they only make like 2 bg clones?
If underrail is so good why is there zero underrail clones?
If solasta is so good why is there zero solasta clones.
Had to reset because snes version doesnt transfer to 7. I don't remember being this weak at lvl 2 my party was spamming nuclear blast by the time I got to the mountains. Kinda what I'm playing when I can only use my phone I'm also this anon>>544937001
Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 4, Outer Worlds, Avowed, Outer Worlds 2 = same game
If pathfinder is so good, why are there evil routes?
>>544963975Play more crpgs
>>544965113List of bg clones>wotr>pillars
>>544963975because they are over 20 years old
Who tf allowed slaves to be sold here? And where is my cut?
>drink beer>email a medium-known but good actor's representation suggesting they do voice work in CRPGs>list my favorite studios they could contactMy work tonight is done.
>>544963805>numerous better crpgsI get it’s trendy to hate on bg3 here but it is better than your owlcuck games
>>544963975every crpg is a bg1&2 clone, or an attempt at one anyhowsome do things better, some go off in terrible directions.
>>544886760>Abelard is shitting on Melee Pyros because he can hit 5 times per roundmelee bladedancers can hit way more than 5 times per round>Anything Ranger can do - Argenta does better because of her Origin AND starting classnahargenta will never have the single target damage of assassin yrliet>Warrior is worthless on MC in 100% of situations now because Abelard exists. There's NOWAY for you to be better than him with this class.nahsanctic vanguard or arbites warrior can outperform him if you build them rightlike always, crpgg is massively overstating recent buffs
Alright I never thought anything of pure Pally Seelah and almost always bench her immediately but this time I went for the horse instead of the weapon bond and she's turning into a fucking monster
>>544969906Age of decadence and underrail play nothing like the bg games
>>544972326Still haven't decided to play past the horse-shit tutorial of AoD, something that /agdg/ would even be embarrassed about, so can't comment thereUnderrail follows BG1&2 suit. If you don't see that, you're blind.
>>544971640riding a horse or even having it follow you around in many indoor settings is completely soulless thoughHaving your horse attack is even worse, total stupid garbage, hard pass
horse companion when
>>544974827Calm down there, Catherine the Great
>>544973869Do you think war horses just sat there doing nothing?
>>544973163It literally takes 2 minutes to beat the tutorial, how shot is your attention span?
>>544969906You know crpgs existed before bg and there are other crpgs clearly way more inspired by something like ultima,heros of might and magic, wizardry ect... than baldurs gate.
>>544975202They were trained to not react to proximity, noise, and were convinced blocks of men would get out of their way when charged at. A war horse would "break" either after it's first actual battle or after a few charges. Shying the minor form of that, bolting with you on them the more severe problem to avoid injury/spoopy not fleeing men it trampled.
>>544708018You've forgotten how fucking horrid starfield looked or you just exaggerate too much.
If ultima is so good how come the only ultima clone that has came out recently is skald?
>>544975772>A war horse would "break" either after it's first actual battle or after a few chargesWell generally a horse wouldn't be charged onto a pike rank. Their purpose was running down stragglers and isolated small groups for the rider to finish off with his saber
What's the asado argentino of crpgs?
I keep mistaking Owlcat for Omocat.
>>544940223There's no fucking way he didn't name it that with the intention of people finding it after misspelling Undertail.
>>544965095What allows for Skyrim to escape being the same game as the ones you listed?
>>544886760>Grand Strategist is still the most broken class in the game and you need at least one. I personally always make MC one since it gives me Diviner Wizard vibes.Isn't that thematic? The Rogue Trader should be the one moving all the pawns.
>>544887164Because Torment didn't sell.
>Tsundere CamMaybe i treated the Cammiefags too harshly
>>544976931Shock cavalry would charge infantry when softened by missile troops or pinned by other infantry blocks (or when led by a retard) The horse physically slamming into guys his training says would scatter (and crushing them) even without injury still would still burn through the animal's use as a warhorse. We have pretty thorough records of what and how horses were trained and how long they lasted from the medieval era. In the renaissance lancers still would have proper war horses, reiters not so much (one of the many reasons why they were cheaper and more common). By the ECW and 30 years war you can assume most cavalry would be on riding horses and wouldn't be able to charge down pike blocks even if they'd wanted to. I haven't looked deep into what training a military horse would truly get in the early modern period but you'd assume it'd mainly be to disassociate the noise of gunfire from danger. Bottom line though is a horse isn't going to reel up and attack draugr's like in skyrim it's going to get the fuck out of there unless explicitly trained otherwise.
>>544979712Thanks for the info, pretty interesting. The more recent usage is what I had been thinking of. I neglected medieval and renaissance lancers
>>544979454
>>544963805Extremely long early access sponging up brand recognition. People used to joke about how absurd its EA period was and it was almost a surprise when it released.If it had just released normally its numbers would've been tracked differently and hype marketing would've been played differently.
>>544963975The og BG games were in stiff competition with action slop like Diablo and underperformed in comparison. They were niche products for ttrpg nerds that became fan favorites over a long time until D&D became popular amongst normies long after the shelf life of the originals.
>>544980762>Spelt the name of your lover wrongTypical Cammiefag
>>544975534Is pic related any good?
You guys think Areelu and Suture ever..?
>>544963805It was released when dnd was pretty much very trendy thank to Critical Roll. It was also made by the Original Sin fag, which is another game people love You can just put two and two together i guess
PHARASMAWHERE IS MY SON'S SOUL
>>544975358It has nothing to do with attention span, it was absolute shit presentation.If the combat tutorial of AoD was an /agdg/ game it would go completely unnoticed, and that is absolutely pathetic.I might try it again someday but the only reason I'd try this "literally looks like a teenager whipped it up for a class" game is due to people suggesting it here. Other than that it presents as total garbage.
>>544981150Areelu uses Suture as a slave. The only thing resembling sexual contact between them is when Areelu uses him as a footstool.
>>544981207Did it also coincide with the pandemic? It seems like Critical Role/D&D's popularization lined up with that, though it had been building beforehand a bit.
>>544981150yes... YES...
>>544963805mocap, normie accessibility, good Act1. Literally all there is to it.They spent a lot on a gamble, and got a lot in return.
Gobbet slop
What's your music for visiting /crpgg/ hubhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-GgUwxBo9o
>Ember x Woljiff>Daeran x Camellia>Arueshalae x Lann>Ulbrig x SosielAny other ship I'm missing?
>>544982571https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B92P1-OUNJo
>>544982712Lucia x Scotchmo
C'mon. bro. I even gave you a proper crusader funeral with strippers and whores and everything. What the fuck man?
>>544982712daeran only calls seelah hotlann fucked wenduagsosiel is zesty for his brother
>>544982712Hiravias x Gobbet
>>544983359She would walk circles around him
>>544982712Barry x Mouse
>>544982712Incel x Femcel
>>544931476Lord of Nothing adds a few nice classes, continues the story from Through the Ashes, and has an android companion for its story (you can't get the andoid in the main game though)Masks is nice, adds a few classes again, you get to fight some enemies that aren't just demons, get to visit Kenabres again, it has more companion things, and even adds a new romance event for whoever you romanced. It's sweetI'd recommend Masks at least. Get Lord of Nothing if the classes it adds appeal to you or you want to continue the story of Through the Ashes
>>544980762
>>544983165>daeran only calls seelah hotHe has the hots for her.
>>544941998As far as I know, it's a pretty comedic gameI don't trust generally trust comedic games to be good, especially not when they are made or set in America, since I despise American "humour"
>>544931476Lord of Nothing is pretty good, it's a continuation of the story from From the Ashes, unlike the first part though, this is much more similar to the normal WOTR gameplay with a lot less emphasis on survival. It also adds a very cool boss fight for the main campaign.Dance of Masks is ok, it's pretty short and sweet. The new archetypes added are very nice and super unique. The made a big deal about it being fully voiced, but imo this was more of a detriment than anything since the quality of the voice acting is noticeably inferior compared to the rest of the game, it felt like a very rushed thing, there are even a couple of instances where the voice actors made a mistake while reading their lines and had to make another take and they didn't even bother to cut it properly.
>>544985054I wouldn't call it "comedic" any more than Fallout, Fallout being based on Wasteland anyhow.The day-to-day action of your work as a team in the story isn't really "comedic" though there's some silly things. Funny on that, interview with Brian Fargo I saw said going back he would even cut down on the silly parts. But, in any case, you're taking on second-hand opinions on a game you've never played, like a hillbilly retard "American", but I love that for you, my enlightened non-American friend.
>>544985584I mean a lot of people disliked Fallout 2 being more comedic.
bros any worthy recommendations? I really liked Disco Elysium; Tyranny was okay but end felt really underwhelming, I also tried Pillars of Eternity after hearing so much praise, but honestly I was quite underwhelmed by how straightforward it feels, as if literal default dark fantasy, felt like every character i've encountered is one dimensional and so all of my options as character.
>90% of WotR buildguides based off of exploits and bugs>last patch fixed a ton of these bugsAnyone else find it deeply funny? There are still redditors out there suggesting elemental barrage for martials because there was a bug that was around for years that made it proc with any elemental damage, not just spells (it's actually really shit now that it is working as intended, as any blaster worth their salt will take ascendant element).
>>544985941oh and i also had fun playing pathfinder wotrk, whole divinity system was really cool
Levity has always been part of CRPGs, please don't make me actually point out instances in BG1, 2, Torment, or others.Anyone complaining about Fallout2 being "more comedic" needs to turn off their screen for a bit and focus on their breathing, per the strategy they've worked out with their caseworker.
>>544986124Fallout 2 is 90% boomer pop culture references.
>>544985941Shadowrun Hong Kong and Necromancer's Tale are nice if what you're looking for is more dialogue heavy stuff. Also might as well get Rogue Trader if you liked Wrath.
>>54498621590%, wow, that only leaves 10% of the game that isn't pop culture references.Sure you want to go down this route? Fallout 1 is absent of such things? BG1, 2?
I liked the fart trap set-piece in Necromancer
>>544986453>Sure you want to go down this route?Yes I am.I am not aware of any references to 20th century pop culture in BG1 and 2 for example.
>>544986124It's less that there's humour at all and more that the actual plot is extremely thin and humour is most of what you get.
>>544985941I would second Shadowrun: Hong Kong if you want dialog-heavy. A fair number of checks that relate to skills, but nothing on the scale of DE of course. It's 10 years old. But approach it as a story to read and it's good. After missions you can catch up with people and affect to a degree what happens with them over time.I'm having trouble finishing the bonus campaign because I don't want to let the game and characters go, actually.
>>544981449Wish that was me….
>>544986578>I am not aware of any references to 20th century pop culture in BG1 and 2 for example.Then you haven't played the games or are retarded.Autograph from Larry, Larry, and Darryl for one instance. BG1&2 is full of that kind of levity, references, and 4th wall breaking.Feel shame for not actually playing the games that you are trying to discuss.
>>544982712>>Ulbrig x SosielLiterally dogshit pairing.Despite his character portrait, Ulbrig is the most heterosexual romance Owlcat has ever made>t: Someone's who's lich stayed human because she wanted to repopulate Sarkoris herself
>>544986735>>544986354thank you anons i'll check them out
>>544986660>the actual plot is extremely thin and humour is most of what you get.in what game? Holy shit zoomers, how do you actually function in society with 0 proficiency in expressing yourself? Is it the plastic in your blood or what?
>>544982712Daeran x Wenduag is more likelyHis oracle powers lets him see through Camellia's deception, but curse prevents him from telling to anyone
>>544985584Didn't mean to strike a nerve, mateBut good to know it isn't just a sitcom disguised as a game
>liking fallout aka Arcanum for normalfags and with less racism
>>544986735It's also a lot more character driven than Dragonfall or Returns. Hong Kong is great.
>>544987146You didn't strike a nerve, mate, I was just pointing out how stupid you are.
>>544986858>Autograph from Larry, Larry, and Darryl for one instanceUh huh, keep going
>>544987056>too adhd to actually follow a conversation>instantly starts sniffing his own farts about zoomersZoomer spotted.
>>544987345nta but bg1&2 is full of that kind of thing anon
>>544987345https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xj_jeviwKQ
>>544987148Speaking of racism. I remember in the first two dragon age games there was a lot of racisl tension between races, especislly for elves and the people from qun. And a lot of characters from both sides were quite racist towards each other.I liked that part 'cause it made the world seem more real, does that aspect of dragon age still exist in inquisition and veilguard? Or are they all loveydovey now?
>>544987778They practically removed it
>>544987778>inquisitionYes>veilguardNo
Why are these two literally whos talking mad shit to me when i just fucking forcefully enlarged Baphomet's asshole like three times its original size? What the fuck man?
Is outerworlds crpg of the year?
They weren't even good enough for a scripted fight. Just got fucking off screen killed, fucking losers
>>544988350They live in Baphomet's social media echo chamber so they didn't hear about you beating him
Baphomet did nothing wrong
who else is high af right now? also i completely forgot how to do this puzzle, this is going to take a bit.
>>544987778>does that aspect of dragon age still existThat would never pass HR.
>>544990578b-b-b-but I was told Solasta looks like shit
tfw u will never be Areelu’s servant
>Gold dragon Mythic turns you into a black guy Hey what the fuck
>>544987778they removed racism, slavery, and any pure evil choices like misgendering someone
Ah wait, fale alarm. You have gold skin, but why is my fucking hair black?
>>544993029Dragonlance reference
>Dragonlance Lord sloth is so cool
>>544991701you already are by choosing anything that isn't legend
I attempted the ascension ending and failed even with a guide.
>>544995210Sometimes the normal ending is better
>>544995210Which step did you fuck up? Lose the dagger at some point?
>>544999009The Hepzamirah/the research from Pulura's fall dialogue option never triggered.
>No one cared who I was 'til I put on the mask
r8 the gamepad interface
>>544999710I predict nothing but bad things for this one
hehehehehe, goodberries
>>545000731I think you should develop a vitamin deficiency if you rely on these too much.
>>544999872Played it on steamdeck. RT is pretty good with controllers
I think I missed getting the gloves too. Anyway the game is quite fun early on, however you become so strong at 12-13 that nothing is a challenge. You don't even need most buffs either.
bg3 should have had more crafting, dnd games dont feel right without the dopamine spike of having your wizard craft something really powerful.
It's kinda crazy just how bad Rogue Trader is in comparison to other Owlcat titles. Combat and """class""" system so fucked that the most recent patch revamped half the game and broke half of it too in an effort to revise things.Meanwhile WOTR is still insanely strong and played. Still don't understand why Owlcat abandoned Pathfinder anyway.
>>544963805>numerous better crpgsBaldurs Gate 3 is the best CRPG to come out in the past decade, and I hated Larians Divinity games. It's so absurdly good that it singlehandedly makes Forgotten Realms (one of the worst settings ever) interesting and has probably caused an entire CRPG renaissance with copycats in the next few years.
>>545006043Did they have to include the bear-fucking though?
>>545006198unironically yes, that bit of marketing and the tidal wave of seething and mental illness from /v/ that poured from it (and continues to this day) was genius marketing
>>545006384It's all so tiresome.
>>545006712no you see making a mockery of a beloved franchise is GOOD ackshually as long as line go up :)
Is it just an autism problem that’s keeping you fags from moving on from what everyone else understands was a gag
>try out a mod for rogue trader, seems interesting>something something... uh huh... toughness te->toughness test>immediately made aware that the modder has no idea how the game is balanced (a lot of enemies autopass toughness tests because they have over 100 toughness)Sad.
>>544838710Orks are just really stupid and violent, not evil. If you can convince them to go be stupid and violent somewhere else they can be not entirely hostile, it's just not very often where that can actually be the case
>>544871913One of the few times where I don't want to call you retarded honestlyThat fits way better
>>544886760>and Executor second class.If you mean executioner, it was made unusable after the newest patch
>>544887107>>544887662They either introduced a 1 riposte limit on your own turn or disabled it entirely. It used to work exactly as you were thinking it would work, the newest patch fucked it.
>>544898847>Okay, I've experimented with that shit and it's pretty nuts>>Reload/parry AoO/fire/reload sequence seems to be indefinitely repeatable, as long as there's an enemy next to you and you parry>>If there were multiple enemies attacking and you parried more than one, an attack is queued for each oneWait howFencing boots don't work like that for me anymore, they just do nothing
>>544889337It's a joke, right? You couldn't fuck up this badly by accident.
>>544988350You don't really kill Baphomet unless you're playing Angel. On all other paths it's implied that Nocticula just kill steals you even if you 1 shot Baphomet with something like Weird.
>>544955589I stopped taking her after I stopped using officers and I realized that I never thought "I wish cassia was here" unlike pasqal, yrliet or heinrix
>>545004605Never in my fucking life was I ever allowed to craft anything on tabletop because 90% of tranny nigger masters (dungeon masters) are retarded motherfuckers who narrate in realtime (ingame) so you have 0 downtimeI hate people so goddamn much
>>545010596And by 90% I mean all of the 4 DMs I've had
>>544987830>>544987852>>544990881>>544993080Sad, it grounded the setting, made it a bit darker too.Kind of how people used to be racists and weird against tieflings and drow in dnd, now you walk around waterdeep and you got tieflings, drow, dhampir, aracokra, ice giants, and a bunch of other snowflakey shit just wandering around like regular people.Don't get me wrong, there's an appeal to such a varied and weird setting/culture, one of the main selling points of planescape torment and the city of sigil. But why make every setting like that? Why homogenize everything to end up samey? Ravneca for example won't be as interesting if you can see angels and demons walking around luskan casually.
>>545009978Aren't you supposed to use those midnight arrows on demon lords to kill them?
>>545010834Waterdeep is like the largest city on the planet (and coastal so even more outsiders making their way in), that's an odd place to complain about that I'd think, but otherwise I get you.
4 or 5?
>>545011116Yeah I just chose a random name for a city desu.Waterdeep is also on top of the mad mage halastar's dungeon which is filled with weird creatures and it connects the city with the underdark.
>>5450119256, I don't care
>>5450119255 and and deadname him again
Do you get different city depending on your Mythic path? Quite like the lightning of Drezen in ACT 5
Can you without shitposting or insults explain why is it fair that women get 2 flavors of Eldar men to fuck, but men only get Yrliet platonic "romance"?
[Rape] I like you! Mine!
>>545014182?
Imagine baldur's gate 3But with the critical role voice actorsIt would've been the best game ever
>>545014182Id argue that Yrliet gets the most "eldar" romanceIssue with her is how it's written, not the lack of banging
>>545015928Based. I fricken love CR. The girl is so hot.
>>545018608The married girl with children? Surely nobody thinks this right
That said. I realized that, even though quite a few of games allow you to ascend, not many of those also allow you to rape the already existing pantheon and be not just God but The Strongest one. Or better yet the only one.Outside of Arcanum I don't know games that allow that at all.
>>545021270....Raistlin...
>>545014182It isn't, but it it what it is.
>>544988413If you don;t count remakes and remasters yes.
>>545014182Because no one has bothered to go kyoani on owlcat.
>>545015928Isnt that just Pillars 2?
>>545023609Was there ever a waifufag that chimped out irlat a writer or company?
For future reference, the character portraits in Pathfinder: WOTR are all in one file: Bundles\portraitsThe character portraits in Pathfinder: Kingmaker are in a much less obvious location though: Kingmaker_Data\sharedassets4.assets
Obsidianbros...how could this happen?
>>545027635No, wait, that's not right. There's also at least one scattered in sharedassets6.assets. And in sharedassets9.assets ... better just check all those shared assets files.
>happen upon a potential crime scene>suspects standing around>[Lawful] He looks shifty, executed him.>[Evil] Execute them all.>[Chaos] Let em go. Crimes are fun.>[Good] Everyone calm down. Let's investigate to determine what exactly happened.>>Later find out that nobody was guilty, the actual perpertrator died in a magical accident while committing the crime.>[Lawful] They wasted my time. That's a crime. Kill them.90% of alignment choices seem to play out this way. It seems like Owlcat just fundamentally does not understand alignment, especially lawful.
>>54502857921k? all fat women playing animal farm crafting settlements?
>>545014182The current ecosystem does not care about the wants of men
redditors dont understand lawful and pick paladin thinking its like being obama
>>545030068They're just accurately copying Paizo. Need I remind you that Hulrun is LG when he:>believes killing 10 innocents to get 1 guilty person is worth it>always pushes to have people sentenced to death by burning, no matter the crime or evidence (like the crazy beggar who believed himself to be an angel, the courts settled on lashing him for blasphemy, but Hulrun went ahead and burned him at the stake anyway)>oppresses the worshippers of non-Iomadae deities, including the Good aligned ones>loves listending to the screams of burning people>has burned many children alive>shows zero remorse or self-reflection when proof comes out that the people he sentenced to death were innocent>>"Good, evil, what's the difference? All forces of chaos are the same. Demons, azatas, Nocticula or Desna and Sarenrae, it all makes no difference to me. All they think about is destroying and tearing down..."At least Owlcat made him LN.
>>545030337>>>"Good, evil, what's the difference? All forces of chaos are the same. Demons, azatas, Nocticula or Desna and Sarenrae, it all makes no difference to me. All they think about is destroying and tearing down..."Based order enjoyer
>>545030337And yet he's one of the only ways to keep everything at iz
[lawful good] orange fool, no human is illegal let them all in
>>545031737But that's ChaoticDisrespect the law and you disrespect a Skyrim guard
>>545031574Free will was the worst thing to happen to Golarion. If it wasn't for Gods like Desna, Golarion would be perfect.
>>545028579I find it really surprising that all-time peak is that low
The Good/Evil, Lawful/Chaotic axes are just simply a mistake and I'm glad DnD is phasing it out.
>>545031737No, Sosiel, you aren't lawful good.
Good love interestEvil love interestLawful love interestChaotic love interestNeutral love interest
What about the magephobia? Is that still present in inquisition and veilguard? Or can mages just be public?
I love evil love interests. But I also love a happy ending.So evil...but also good.
[lawful good] orange man bad!
>>545035167mintharatranny posting your AI slopa again
>Crpg developer: Ughhh writing a good story is so hard...>Critical role: Eh, watch and learn>Crpg developer: WOAH!
>>545038029jesus anon
I will NEVER watch Critical Role
>>545035076I never played it but iirc it's set in the mage country and they've killed all Andrastian lore in the past few games anyway.
>>545035076Its in Inquisition. Veilguard no. Veilguard forgot mages are feared.
>>545032009[Lawful Good] No human is illegal. We need to let infinity of these people in and seize the assets of our citizens to provide for them[Chaotic Good] No human is illegal. We need to let infinity of these people in and redistribute the assets of our citizens to provide for them[Lawful Evil] No human is illegal. We need to let infinity of these people in and seize the assets of our citizens to provide for them. If our citizens protest, kill them.[Chaotic Evil] No human is illegal. We need to let infinity of these people in and encourage them to kill our own citizens.
Damn, it hurts a bit. I think I did the right thing though. Besides, there wasn't much of a life waiting for me to return to.
>>545035167I loved Minthara but I don't even know who the other one is
>>545039312Shadowrun: Seattle confirmed
>>545039338autistic potato sith girl
>>545039338Lana from swtor. Great game, great waifus.
>>545040740kys
critical role advocates for pov doll smooching
>>545040740ty I'll look into it. I didn't know that game even had romances since I don't pay attention to mmos
How do Yrlietags exist?
>>545041551the same way regular cuckolds do
>>545041532not the ai nigger or whatever but swtor is just a bioware game in mmo modeevery class has a different storyline
>>545041551Shes an elf thats why
>>545039618Lol, wow. They had an epilogue page that talked about some stuff, and ended mid-sentence with "..." and there's a Continue button down in the lower right.So you hit that to keep reading, right?Nope, that brings you to the credits. Did I get the general idea of how things turned out? Yeah. Did I miss more specifics on each team member? Maybe. Will I reload to go through it again? Oof, not if it means doing that last battle again with those fucking spider tanks.Overall great game. I dragged my heels on actually finishing it because I knew I would miss it. I do that with books I really enjoy as well, so I know this was a good experience.Bye Shadowrun: Honk Honk, it was fun.
does pillars roleplaying ever start opening upi'm a little bit in but so far it just seems like dialogue flavors for the same result or railroaded responses
>>545041551Some people were so excited at the prospect of getting to break the mold in 40k and get to romance and fuck an eldar as a human that they ignore how you're effectively not having a real romance and get absolutely nothing but pain from it, not even actual affection.
>pointless repeated question (again)>reply to self 4 timesWhat a way to spend the weekend
>>545035167>>545040740based best girl
>>545042503You really think he's that pathetic
Does Idira have chocolate milk?
>>545043169You must be 18 years or older to use this site
>get to finale of kingmaker>literally no way to save the most useful party member in the gameyeah thanks owlcat fuck you
>>545043169cassia has fish oil
>>545044942Sorry but wizards hierd the veilgaurd directors to make bg4, its going tk be even more woke and have even crazier sex and become the bg3 killer.
>>545031623NTA, but that old rag is useless, nothing happens if you let it get destroyed. And you don't need to keep the library intact if you aren't going for the secret endingI always kill Hulrun, and I wish we could make him suffer more for everything he's done
>>545030337Hulrun is LN in the game and AP Hulrun was a corrupted dude with no real backstory IIIRC.He was not like that in the AP and then they adjusted the alignment
>>545043631You can save Jubilost, teifling twins and Octavia though
>>545051265people actually care about these two cardboard cut outs?
>>545052173If 'useful' is the thing you get mad about, I'd assume so.The exaggeration over the twins and the content they get still makes me laugh
>>545042953You're posting in a thread that was artificially bumped while the sister thread was active, all so it could be recycled right at the 750-reply mark. Don't question how pathetic some here are.
Post evedience where any Owlkek romance option explicitly says that they won't date other men while dating you.
>>545053579Everytime a woman looks another man in the eyes shes cheating on you
The hippogriff is the coolest looking mount, but I still feel like the dog/wolf and reddit dragon are still the best. Hippogriff has a pretty bad stat spread and survivability in comparison.
>>544999710>Revan and Cooler Revan
>>545054679>Growlfrey
>>545054679The dog drops off a lot once stuff just stops being trippable
>Cooler RevanStarkiller?
>>544697750This is actually a non-humiliation game so far. The type of anti-male people that makeup the ranks of Yrliet defenders are pissed off by it. They are mad that devs give men romances they like. If Owlkek actually did this and didn't humiliate their fanbase, they would be making good money and those numbers would be higher.>inb4 muh romance isn't importantIt's 90% of RT, BG3 and other RPG that features them talk outside of here. Romance is important and attracts many people. Romance movies and novels are very popular. It is a selling point wether anons here like it or not.>inb4 muh romance lengthRomance isn't the main part of the game's story either, it has more presence than with Owlcat, but still not the main focus.
>>545054931Never realized how much Galfrey looks like Charlize Theron's evil queen.
>>545054931The canon name of Seelah's horse is Iomeneigh, which is worse in many respects.
>check the statue of heroes (kick starter backers) in solasta>see thishuh?
>>545056851Bg3? A shitty solasta clone.
>>545054679Bird can just pounce any distanceDog is a better trip machineBoar gets free ferocity and has the most ac of any pet(same as mastodon) but I don't think the +4 ac vs hippogriff is worth the mobility some people doRaptor mounted doesn't give aops but is only for manletsWtf are the other pets for
>>545057401>Wtf are the other pets forStyle. Smilodon and Bear are good, but I don't think you can get it in Wrath without mods/cheats. Cheetah gets so much speed and BAB it's ridiculous.
>>545056851Larian helping a fellow studio
How far would the bg3 team make it in the main plot of solasta?
>>545057401>Wtf are the other pets forNoobtraps. Wrath's design is very mean, despite what people on here will say. Shit like missing the storyteller at the start of act 2 and thus missing the magical amulet that really helps throughout the act if you go to talk to Galfrey or enemies giving you stat debuffs in act 1 that you won't be able to heal until act 2 is really mean design.
>>545057907Judging by how easy it was for orin to sneak into the camp and replace one of the members they would job to soraks in like 5 minutes.
>>545058418Yeah, I missed The Covenant of the Inheritor because I was in a rush on a replay. Felt pretty dumb when I realized it, but I didn't want to flush hours of progress down the drain for a reload. Worse than losing the gameplay benefits of caster levels and good aligned weapons, you won't be able to get it in time to give to Galfrey, which I think puts you on the bad end. I just ended up cheating it in. I'm not going to let the game lock me into a bad route like that.
>>545056851swen loves giving smaller studios are shootout they're just returning the favor
>>545041551You wouldn't get it
>>545058418>Shit like missing the storyteller at the start of act 2 and thus missing the magical amulet that really helps throughout the act if you go to talk to Galfrey or enemies giving you stat debuffs in act 1 that you won't be able to heal until act 2 is really mean design.That's why we love WotR. Because it filters out the noobs. For instance, the shitton of options it gives you is not to add build variety but a mirage to obfuscate the correct choices. Unless you're playing the babby modes, builds in WotR are either brokenly OP or brokenly unviable. There might be a million shit builds to the one good one, so there isn't a lot of wiggle room here when making a good build, and there is no respecting in higher difficulties, so you have to pick every feat and level up with purpose. You have to actually read through everything, do a bit of research, because sometimes the text is ambiguous due to being translated from Russian, and think, unlike Baldur's Gate 3 or RT where it is clear what has synergy and what's shit. If the character leveling traps you, then so to does the story choices. Missing small details can lead to completely different endings. Missing a single Midnight Arrow or failing to hit the demon lords with it locks you out of ascension. It is not a forgiving game, which is why we love it, but also why it probably never hit mainstream appeal like Larian did.
>>545058517>in like 5 minutesThat's quite a struggle actually.Pathfinder's Commander would've killed everyone in 1 spell for instance.
>>545016387Yeah the problem is her personality keeps changing Especially on Quetza Temer
>>544981082It's fantastic.
>>545060435>It is not a forgiving game, which is why we love it, but also why it probably never hit mainstream appeal like Larian did.It's also because it doesn't become fun until you hit act 2. Act 1 was a dreadful chore. Samey boring environments, lame quests and encounters, barely any tactical depth and luck based gameplay due to being a low level, and pacing issues. It just dragged on and on. In Act 2, it felt like you were actually going places and doing things. I could play Act 2 and 3 for hours, but playing through Act 1, I could only play for an hour or two before I got bored.That's one thing I'll hand to BG3 and RT. Their first acts are great, even on replays.
>>545055748>please care about these literal whos tweeting literal nothingneck yourself
Hey, so, I have to ask, was there some kind of giant troll by the WOTR fans when the game was in development? Like, did they all come together and go>Hey, we should back the most retarded, most dogshit, abysmally bad quests ever. Just the most retarded faggotry possible. The most unfun shit ever. I really want to make the most unfun quest to have ever been made in the history of games. In fact, let's do that several times in a row.
>>545060435Imagine actually defining obfuscation as good game design. In your ideal world, manuals would be obtuse and unhelpful because it "filters out the noobs" who can't use google like smart peeps, foreign language wouldn't be subtitled because it "filters out the noobs" who can only speak English, and shitty RPGs with a million trap options would exist, because you feel really good about following a build to the letter.
>>545061748I have a hard time believing that anon is serious desu.
>>545058983You dont have to give galfrey anything
Galfrey owes me children
>>545062076>owlcat adds kids for a literal demon in endslides post launch after fans complain>but not the human queen
>>545061658>Hey, so, I have to ask, was there some kind of giant troll by the WOTR fans when the game was in development? Like, did they all come together and goThe superfans are the ones who click through every dialogue option possible for every NPC and read through the paragraphs and paragraphs of their life stories (rather than just skimming for any important quest bits like most of us) and enjoy it while having 4 nonsensical dips on their character to minmax them. That should tell you what type of autist you are dealing with.
>>545061748Most RPGs are too handholdey in the sense that they try to make everything work if not tell you exactly what you need to pick. PF respects you enough to give you hundreds of options that will fuck up your build.
Why does he think it’s funny to repeat the same memes in every threadIs he okay
>>545061956That's a lot of effort to put into a shitty bait then. There are easier ways to pretend to be an idiot.
>>545057401Already big to mount from the get go, speed for ground you can cover etc.>>545058418I'd barely call the Centipede a noob trap. The rest are fine
>>545062242I guess I'm not retarded enough to think>INFINITY+ ENEMIES WITH 80000 AC WHO TELEPORT AND DISPEL MAGIC EVERY TURN AND HAVE MIRROR VISION AND CONCEALMENT AND ALSO THERE'S A TRAP EVERY FIVE METERSIs fun
>>545062434>PF respects you enough to give you hundreds of options that will fuck up your build.No, that's the opposite of respect. If I double or triple every shitty trap option, did I respect the player twice or three times more by trusting them to crunch the numbers and figure out the one single decent build that works? Or am I just a moronic dev who should never design/adapt a game ever again?
>>545062434>>545062760Concept of trap options does not exist on core.Even with rogueThings that stop being viable in unfair is a whole different story
>>545062760Choices don't matter unless there is a fail state. The fact that there are so many traps means that when you build your characters right, it is that much more rewarding. It's why games will often give you evil options, despite knowing most people roleplay good, because it makes choosing the good options mean more. Building characters is not crazy difficult, especially with Owlcat patching out most of the bugs, even if I will miss the elemental barrage and crane stance exploits, it just takes more thought that picking something because it "looks cool" like most RPGs.
I prefer many trap options to very few options like 5e just personal preference. The current 2024 version is even worse in that regard literally made for retards
>>545063142>Choices don't matter unless there is a fail state.Yes, that's obvious. What's also obvious is that complexity is a spectrum, not a binary between a million trap options for one good build (in which case "choice" also becomes rather meaningless) and no trap options.
>>545063142>Choices don't matter unless there is a fail state.yeah thats the illusion of choice then, which is the opposite of what an rpg>The fact that there are so many traps means that when you build your characters right, it is that much more rewardingno, because this isnt a roguelike
>>545063142this nigga competing in a single player game
>>545058418Awww fuck I forgot the covenant of the Inheritor this playthrough and I'm already at Drezen. It's not a dealbreaker or anything but it's a nice item to have and I always forget it
Never forget that it's always retards who don't even understand how the game works talking about tier lists and trap options.
if 5e is so casual and bg3 is so easy how come there's only like 2% of players who beat honor
>>545065361because it was made for gays and women instead of sweaty tryhards. it's the opposite end of the horseshoe from retards like >>545060435
>>545065361Most people that suck BG3’s penis didn’t even beat the game on easy modo.Most modern “gamers” don’t beat games.
There's literally nothing wrong with beating the game on easy modeIf you want difficulty wank, go play Elden Ring without taking damage
>>545065361Game is long as shit I have never reached the end of it I did most of act 3 just kinda fuck it its so over by then, most act 3 bosses have like 350hp and you can down that hp bar with just 1 character. They didn't make content for me
>>545065361Honor mode itself isn't hard but permadeath in an rng based game is annoying as fuck.
>Enemies continue to smite good me despite me not being good this timeHellknight keeping smite chaos despite swapping from lawful is fucking great I'm not tied to alignment paladin cuckshed anymore
>>544982712Daeran also wants to fuck his granny, Galfrey, in the throne room. Check out his kink's letter
Would this be a good crpg plot and romance
>>545066418no, because m*n want to feel like they "won" the girl, they want to feel like predators chasing their prey, so a vampire girl or werewolf girl who are immediately in love with them would feel shallow
>>545066641Here’s your (You), sir.
>>544987778Regarding Inquisition from the top of my head I can remember a few situations>DworfsThere is a war table decision about genociding a whole Dwarven Clan>ElvesYou visit a Orlesian manor in a quest, there is a bunch of elves enslaved there, being multilated and mistreated. If your character is an Elf, you can't acess certain sections of the manor and most of the Orlesians treat you like shit>QunariDuring the Trepasser DLC, the Qun Queen sent a huge ass army to exterminate and enslave the Inquisition, they also treat mages like cattle
there entire appeal of twilight is from the perspective of bella who is a little fragile girl who is preyed upon by edward who is a vampire and like a monster right? but omg he's so hot and bella (I) can fix him... doesn't work if you swap genders sorry
>>545067047As far as I know from hearing girls talk about the books back in highschool it was even more retarded then that
>>545009978Demon lords respawn in their domain when they die..besides, Baph lives, he's there during 2e, he only dies in Angel path, otherwise Notty lets him life, since she doesn't care about the Abyss>>544988350Never used them, but I don't recall them doing anything gameplay wise besides by pp damage. To kill a demon lord, you need to slay them 2 times in less than a year
>>545030337>>545030068Both Lawful and Chaotic have tons of diet evil options in Wrath, with Lawful probably edging out Chaotic. You can see how the game treats Lawful when Lann sides with Regill in any argument. Even though Lann is solidly LN, he finds more resonance with Regill's ideals than LG ones embodied by Seelah and even his own Goddess. That's because typically, Lawful in PF implies tyrannical, uncompromising, and unfeeling in the name of pragmatism.
>>545066641100% correct btw.
>>545066641>m*n want to feel like they "won" the girlThis explains Yrlisimps btwIt's also why Jae has so few simps, because she's too easy
>>545067028Yeah qunari are more brutal to their mages than humans are. I honestly think these grim aspects of dragon age were what made it unique. The fear/hatred towards mages, slavery, racism, even some dhalish elves were racist against all other races.Sad to see some anons saying veilguard did away with most of it. It made the setting unique.
>>545070091It's also why a lot of the LG characters can't stand Hulrun while the Hellknights speak glowingly of him. The distance between LN to LE is much closer in comparison to LN to LG. It's why many of the Lawful options feel so dickish.>That's because typically, Lawful in PF implies tyrannical, uncompromising, and unfeeling in the name of pragmatism.The first war at the dawn of creation was between the Lawtist Gods, who wanted determinism and no free will or sentience, and the Chaotic Gods, who wanted no structure (thus no universe). Law vs Chaos tends to be a bigger deal than Good vs Evil, which is why Iomadae is more okay with Asmodeus than she is with Desna.
>>545070683sorry sweaty it's <current year> we can't be making anyone feel uncomfortable (unless they're my ideological opponent :^))
What role you playing today?
>first time I encountered Kagha quest bug, where if you try to present her a letter from shadow druids, you'll get black screen>turns out it was a thing since fucking 2020Thank you, larian, fucking assholeWasted 8 hours, and now my autism won't let me keep playing because of that
>>545071471I have a bunch of CRPGs that I haven't tried but I can't decide what to play. I might play a non-crpg for awhile, but I can't decide there either.Expeditions: Rome, Skald, Serpent in the Staglands, Tides of Numenara, Pentiment.Those are the likely ones.I played about 5 minutes of Spellforce 3 and decided I couldn't be bothered to learn how it works. Might try Endless Space 2.
>>545008328Which mod?
>>545067028The dwarves in DA got the fucking shaft. We get stuck with Varric for 3 games and Harding for 1 and neither have seen Orzammar. We barely hear anything about how Orzammar is doing and the companions they give us know less than we do
>>545071868Torment is easy so if you want a chill game it would be a good choice.Expeditions rome was interesting, it even sheds some light on old anglo pagan culture which was cool because you don't see a lot about them in popular media.
>>545072084They backed themselves into a corner with Orzammar desu. They put it in a backwater (as far as the later games are concerned) and gave both leader options massive flaws.
>>545010596>>545010756You need better DMs. Downtimes and timeskips are the bread and butter of trpgs
>>545066418no but it would make a decent H-game>>545066641monster girl quest disproves this
>>545014114Yeah, you do, mine's was raining blood 24/7
>>545014114Lich gets a giant evil pyramid in the center of the city that glows with green magic and is patrolled by skeletons and occasionally vampires
>>545073002MGQ is good in spite of being mostly femdom trash not because of it.
>>545072616Baelan apparently tried to reclaim the Thaigs after the Blight. Could have been a neat plot if they didn't gut it
>>545073834Yeah but he's also a power hungry kinslayer. Then his opponent who is supposed to be the "good" option ends up being an isolationist which is another modern no-no. I think they try to gloss over Baelan's faults more than Harrowmont's in the later games if it makes you feel better. Neither can properly go anywhere tho.
>>545073327femdom kino
>>545074124the ending show that he did more for the dwarfs than anyone else, he allowed all the casteless to fight to retake thaigs, which why wouldnt you, you literally have a populace that cant do anything but crime, you might as well allow them to die for you. the dwarfs are so blinded by tradition that its a miracle that the society managed to survive, on top of that using democracy when theres an ongoing disaster further proving that democracy is a really bad system and the romans were right
>>545074914an oxymoron
>>545075042Listen man I was really hoping to avoid a discussion on dwarven ideologies of Thedas. I couldn't give 2 shits what happened to Orzammar after the blight honestly. Harrowmont turned out to be a retard but I find Baelan irredeemable for how he came to power. They can choose how they want to rot in their holes for all I care. I'm just telling you the meta reason on why they never came back as big forces. Plus gayder hated dwarves and he had a lot of control from 2 forward.
>>545073002>monster girl quest disproves thisentire point of the game is to become the strongest thing in existence before you can get with the main girl.
People who fell for Harrowmont's bullshit still seething years later
>>545075317>>545074124Harrowmont will literally send trap political dissidents into Golems if you give him the anvil. He's moderate, but kinda an ass.
>>545075317>Baelan irredeemable for how he came to powerliterally every dwarf does that kind of shit, dont hate the player, hate the game
>>545076097Harowmont vs Bhelen is just a fun exercise in seeing how many people will chose the objectively worse option if one of them is nicer to you personally and projects the image of being the moderate common sense candidate.
>>545076097God dammit fine we'll have the discussion. I'm not defending Harrowmont. He's a retard even if isolationism is generally based. Baelan is the savvier politician and tries (mostly succsessfully) to paint himself as a dwarven hero king to all, regardless of caste. That doesn't change the fact that he killed his father and brother for the throne. My standards on this are absolute. The ends do not justify the means. This is all academic though because I do not care about dwarves. I can't think of one setting where dwarves stand out as my favorite. Dragon Age just made it easy for me by making them all shitty assholes. The Legion of the Dead are the only cool part of their entire society or any plotline involving them.
>>545076516>The ends do not justify the means.they do when you win, and thats what winners do
>>545076662Buddy I'll hand the throne to Harrowmont just to shut that down. I don't care if they die a slow death in their hole. Not my problem.
>>545076761but it is your problem, theyre fighting the darkspawn constantly
>>545076834Doesn't change anything. Harrowmont and the Legion of the Dead would both still favor the wardens. I don't care if the dwarves prosper.
Picking dwarf noble and then siding with your brother after everything because you can see the greater future he will bring your people is one of the best instances of character growth I've experienced in a game.
>>545076946and then you lose your shield against the darkspawn and they erupt from below, whether you like it or not, the prosperity of the dwarfs is directly related to how well they handle fight off the darkspawn, youre missing the forest of the trees
>>545076516Do you think Harrowmont wasn't also rampantly murdering to get where he was?
>>545077125Better is taking it for yourself.>>545077157You say that like we don't know what comes next. Picking Harrowmont results in the dwarves stagnating but then a bunch of other shit happens and darkspawn are hardly a threat anymore. I think they killed the last archdemon in veilguard didn't they?
Look how happi my girl is!(Sometimes I hate 4chin filesize limit, can't take full screens because of it..)
>>545077304He wasn't. He was a stickler not a savage like Baelan. Honestly Baelan killing the dwarf MC is what seals him for me.
>>545077463>(Sometimes I hate 4chin filesize limit, can't take full screens because of it..)>PNGReally nigga?
Disco Elysium is honestly pretty mid.
>>545077496>he fell for it
>>545077337thats just post hoc, you cant use future events to justify past actions, and even then the writers didnt want to deal with the blights anymore
I knew this cocksucker was a Devil or something like that, but I didn't expect such a big dick Devil.
>>545077767>thats just post hoc, you cant use future events to justify past actionst. guy who would put a kinslayer in charge because of pretty words
>>545077463Wait something actually comes out of the stupid theatre troupe?
>>545077820no, i was referring to the sequels, and even then harrowmont had way better words
>page 9
>>545078116Then why did you pick Baelan? Taking future factors out, what reason did your character have to support Baelan, the hot headed renegade whose mean are openly killing their political opponents in the street, against Harrowmont, the wise advisor to the former king who is adamant Baelan killed his father and brother? Make it make sense.
whenever>>545078631
>>545078319because he is going to do what it takes to win, harrowmont just whines, im not retarded and can see through the farce of that is dwarf society and their retarded traditions
>>545078752So you're just an edgy faggot. I'm shocked (I'm not). Well even in the moment my guy could tell you he didn't give a shit about Orzammar but he needed an army, and better Harrowmont than someone who would murder his own brother.
>>545078319The game gives you a million examples of how terrible the dwarven traditions Harrowmont stands for are.>b-but the dirty politician wouldn't lie to me
>>545079163I don't know how much more clear I can be that I do not care one whit how the dwarves govern themselves. They gave me the choice and I would never give power to someone like Baelan. Anything that comes next is categorically not my problem or in my list of cares.
>>545077810Cute loli, can I kiss her?
>>545079313>I don't care I just obviously deeply care about how they govern themselves
I'm playing a necromancer and I have the feeling my party disapproves of meJust a hunch
>>545079313>I don't care>actually really cares that one candidate doesn't pass his test
Eldar female - Human male is obviously off the tableBut what about Eldar female - Ork?
