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>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, The Elder Scrolls, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

>Recommendations:
https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png

>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:
https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATe
https://monkposter.github.io/community.html

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>Thread question:
Thoughts on rogues?
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Owlshart lost
Humiliated
Slaughtered by spandex clad hands
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Imoen slurps elf-wads out of Winthroppe's bedsheets.
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>>544698576
Is there a Asian chick in Dispatch, Froggy
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>TQ
They're fun but underpowered which can be fun too if you're not a powergaming autist
>>544698576
You lost, faggot
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>>544698776
Not him but no, I don't think there's Asian characters there somehow. A Samoan with the funky accent got in but not Asians.
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New Expeditions game please. I just want more historical crpgs
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>>544699031
nothing historical about Cleopatra having big heavy milkers
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Possible contenders for crpg of the year in 2026 from most to least likely
>dark heresy
>solasta 2
>UnderRail 2: infusion
>clockwork revolution
>banquet for fools
>secret of the weepstone
>swordhaven
>legends of the round table
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>>544699031
33
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>>544699341
Posting the same shit every thread is spam btw
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>>544699397
Shut the fuck up
Sitting in Napoleon's place might make for an interesting one though
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Owlfaggots

Stay in your discord, go bk 2 reddit, fuck off my website
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>>544699341
>>UnderRail 2: infusion
No way in fuck is it releasing next year. Same with DH
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Such a tough choice this time. The Abelard buffs are pretty nice so I want to keep him around. In the past Jimmy took his place but this time I want to include them both for the whole playthrough.

So I think Kibbelah will sit out? She wouldn't want to though. hmmm....maybe Cassia will wait on the ship where it's safe.
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>>544699724
Could you make your playthrough posting a bit less dreadful?
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>>544699724
get a blog
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>>544699724
>Lellianna
You can't just take an existing name and add a letter or two
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The Banner Saga but a crpg
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>>544698932
Froggy only likes Asian women, strange he loves Dispatch now. Is it the Critical Role element?
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>>544700089
I think he loves shitposting and being a contrarian more than anything else, stop talking about your eceleb now
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Warhammer 40K: Rogue Trader
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>>544698576
why are you comparing a crpg with an animated show?
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>>544700163
>e-celeb
loling
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>>544699031
what time period would you like them to do next?
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I still don’t understand why the random expanse telltale game is there
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>>544698576
Do you think owlkek's new video game based on a mildly popular TV show The Expanse will be able to beat The Expanse: A Telltale Series player count?
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>>544700445
Retardation, most likely.
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>>544700406
a 100 year war except successful
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>crpg is full of romancefags
>doesn't talk about the new hot nerdy girl romance in vtmb2
Starting to think you guys are frauds
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>>544700445
Froggy wants to show how dead that IP is since both Dispatch and that Expanse game have been made by the same company. I personally don't know anything about it and I'm still confused why they took that.
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Was she bullshiting about the ritual needing Grey Wardens because she wanted to fuck Alistair or the male PC?
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>>544700803
Not a crpg. Go create your own dead general lmaaaaaaaaaooooooooo
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>>544700992
>Not a crpg.
>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as: Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines
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>>544700870
>Froggy wants to show how dead that IP is
For once frogozoid is right and owlscat deserves all the mockery for going with shitspants of all settings
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>>544700969
Probably not, since she fucks loghaine's flaccid dick too
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>>544700969
Tbh they should have just made Alistair and Morrigan hook up instead of adding layers of cuckshit
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>>544701129
Yes. And you'd also notice that Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 is not on that list because it's not a crpg
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>>544701129
That is an entirely different game that never got a sequel
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>>544700969
>noo relationship ruined!
you'd think he got pregnant
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>>544701425
Won't make sense since they genuinely hate each other.
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>>544701129
2 has less in common with VtMB than BG3 does with its predecessors which says a lot.
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Have you played a crpg this year?
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I can't decide on a mythic path for my ranger. The good aligned ones seem a bit less than stellar for melee martials unless you're a cleric/oracle for angel.
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>>544701762
i played bg3
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>>544701717
look at the searing hatred
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>>544701815
what if you role played
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>>544700969
the child doesn't amount to anything in the end and got erased.
>>544700803
kys shill
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for me it's Patience, the hot and weird artsy chick
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>>544700803
>>544700992
what kind of a game is it if not a crpg? the original one was one
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>>544701879
Well yeah, Alistair looks genuinely uncomfortable there. Morrigan is enjoying tormenting him though. You can argue it's basically rape at this point but who's asking
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Femcels had the most kino cuckmance
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>>544702102
Why would I do that
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>>544701879
Alistair is supposed to be, like, 17, but looks like he's pushing 30
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>retarded cuckanons discovered Morrigan's pregnancy plot
Wow you are like 15 years late
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impregnate witches
bottom text
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>>544701815
Angel has very good buffs, though mainly defensive but very useful for front liners.
Aeon can also be good since every hit dispels something from the enemy so your enemies will get weaker with each hit you land making subsequent hits land easier and so on and so forth.
Demon is also always good desu, since it's fairly versatile.
I never played trickster but I know it has insane critical feats so would be good for any martial build.
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>>544701879
It looks like Alistair is about to cry and Morrigan is mocking him over it.
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is the more merged spellbooks mod working with the latest wotr?
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>>544701879
he is clearly uncomfortable. How did he manage to keep it up long enough?
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>>544703259
Angel one is bugged and has been for years. The rest supposedly work
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>>544703512
it's not exactly something you consciously decide. she's hot and close, you don't need more
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>>544703021
No thoughts about Azata?
I'm saving a potential evil playthru for another run so demon is off the table and I've heard trickster isn't the best for a first run as its pretty meta.
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>>544703512
The why boner is strong and his seed is fertile.
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>>544702825
It’s hard when your only interaction with games is reading other people post about them
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>>544703672
Did you play the game. Alistair does not like Morrigan at all
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>>544703827
yeah but crpg genre has like two good games tops
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Bioware are the absolute chamions of female cuckoldry. The warden gets cucked, female shepard gets cucked, the inquisitor gets cucked (and doesn't even get laid). They really had it out for femcels for some reason
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Time for your medicine Jimmy
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>>544703945
what's that got to do with getting it up?
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whatcha listenin to /crpgg/?
https://youtu.be/FeNClrRlljg?si=ZGyP-XO407Qw75h4
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>>544704029
>cuckqueans in control at bioware
hot ngl
looking forward to the next game where my love interest secretly arranges to have me knock up a barracks worth of brown girls
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>>544697750
This is the real thread
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>>544704514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK0L1MhMlYY
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>>544704260
Sounds like a waste one jimmy. It's tailor made for idira. Jimmy can't equip warp conductor gloves
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>>544704668
damn that's an unexpected pull
not a bad choice tho
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>>544704514
Been on an electroswing binge lately
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pWlfw9oqOI
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>>544699647
Styg said on his blog site its coming out December 2026.
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>>544704592
We can just have two threads, its fine
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>>544704734
Jimmy can use the breastplate and won’t randomly explode though
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>>544704974
So middle of 2027.
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How is the lebron (over hyped manufacturered fraud) of crpgs and who is the Stephan Curry (real GOAT) of crpgs.
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>>544702164
Frog is that you? If so what are your overall thoughts on the game vs the general concencus?
Regarding reactivity and C&C?
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>>544704860
I know literally one electronic swing song but it's pretty groovy. Didn't realize it was a whole thing.
https://youtu.be/ipvEIZMMILA?si=AcMxfmz1oGoYa-sB
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>>544705020
>won’t randomly explode
Boring
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>>544701717
>they genuinely hate each other
That by no means precludes messy, angry sex
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>>544705137
out of curiosity, what are those names from? twitch? tiktok? twitter?
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>>544704860
You should never admit to something like this
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>>544704860
I don't know if this counts as electroswing but I like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4
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>>544704668
Thank you for reminding me how blizz completely squandered this kino setting
https://youtu.be/Ynaf_5LiiHo?si=Yw08BW9-l7Cqs8i9
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I'm so sad the Pillars series is dead. If Deadfire or hell Pillars came out maybe 3 years earlier it would've been so different. A lot of the best writers are out too so we'd have a third game written by Josh, Megan, and Kate.
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how will crpgs change due to ai?
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>>544705528
>not sure if one of the most prominent es bands is considered es
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>>544705621
I use it to make hyper specific portraits :)
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>>544705621
Pornslop spam when jeets start making crpgs
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>>544705317
NBA
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>>544705629
Yeah I mean who knows really
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>>544705621
If it's anything like what Skyrim mods are doing, then it can just straight up create characters based on a few keywords. Shame I can't link videos now but there's some stupid ones where you can gaslight the AI itself off its own programming.
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>>544705773
wow, i really didn't expect basketball americans to post here
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>>544705621
indians trying to share their obsession again...
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>>544705973
It's a meme he's been trying to force for the past few threads. Just ignore it
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>>544704778
You used to be able to rely on WoW to release good trailers and music if nothing else but that hasn't been true since BFA. Other than vidya OSTs I usually end up listening to shit like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcAKbKUBUOQ
>>544705545
Warcraft was a fantastic setting where we could have had so many cool adventures but WoW and the MMO genre caused it to be squandered. A Warcraft CRPG would have been amazing.
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>>544705973
I’ve never watched the sport in my life and even I know that dude
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>>544705973
those guys are pretty famoush thoughever
don't watch it but I've heard of them - like Ronaldo, Modric, Messi etc.
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>>544706205
were from?
i guess if you go to sports bars or somethimg
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>>544705528
>not posting the right version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0pOVtBXAv4&list=RDx0pOVtBXAv4&start_radio=1
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>>544705904
>>544705621
I played around with CHIM my last skyrim playtrough, it's very fun
It's not quite there YET, it needs tardwrangling from time to time but it mostly flows very well with the game (can read what happens too, so it reacts to death, people drinking, crouching etc)
Someone is also making a similar mod for BG3, and CK3 as well
It has potential in the medium (albeit gimmicky and reserved to mods, I don't see it being an important feature in any game any time soon)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyaHoSD2Piw&t=351s
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who else is high af right now? also why does every toreador end up making a sex cult?
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>>544706647
is it compatible with sex mods?
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>>544706647
Ah yeah, that's the one. Kinda crazy really. It has voice commands enabled too right?
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>>544706750
not a crpg
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>>544706815
Yes, I didn't use it but there is a speech to text option so you can speak into your mic to speak with npcs
>>544706804
You can use the hotkey and speak while a sex animation is active to ERP, if that's what you are asking, yes.
I can't find a screenshot right now but you can have NSFW conversations with the right model
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But seriously, why did Owlcat pick the Expanse? It's a relatively niche setting. Frogman was technically right with this image >>544698576 look at how poorly Telltale's expanse game performed
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slopfags in this very thread?
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>>544707150
They seem to like niche stuff. Pathfinder instead of DnD. RT and DH instead of space marine shit (is there even a space marine TTRPG?) I'm planning to read the books to see if it's going to be fun or not since I sincerely doubt they're basing it off the show.
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>>544707150
Probably cheap to license
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>>544707150
My theory is that beggars can't be choosers. They probably went around asking for the liscence to make a game and Amazon were probably the only ones who decided to give them a shot. Just a theory
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>>544707150
my guess is a combination of the employees themselves liking it and the license being peanuts
>>544707218
yes, we're spammed with discussions about 40k frequently
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>>544707429
>is there even a space marine TTRPG
Deathwatch, Black Crusade for Chaos Marines
Dark Heresy is more popular than Deathwatch afaik
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>>544707429
>is there even a space marine TTRPG?
Yes. Deathwatch and Black Crusade. You are wrong about it though. Dark Heresy is the more popular 40k ttrpg. yes, more popular than marines ttrpgs
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>>544707615
>Dark Heresy is more popular than Deathwatch afaik
I mean I think it's more space marine enjoyers are more likely to play wargames than TTRPGs but this is academic anyway.
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>>544707150
it was free/cheap/subsidized.

their sales are capped anyway due to the kind of games the make, so licensing something lile dnd or harry potter is off the table
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No way is owlcat making money paying for all these licenses and having to give a percentage.
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>>544707150
Why are you replying to yourself
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I think anons are retarded
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How much longer until the WOTR porn parody comes out?
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>>544707932
it's already out
it's called the knight-cuckold of drezen
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>>544707776
They are a money laundering operation
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>>544705137
>>544707150
Your shit thread lost, froggy, also stop referring to yourself in the third person
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>>544707429
>RT and DH instead of space marine shit
I assume some of that is on Games Workshop, the company that owns 40k. They're the ones picking what is being licensed and to who.
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>>544707150
its not that niche it had a whole tv show
Telltale Expanse was a case of them being absolute retards that have been radio silent on TWAU2 which was supposed to be the reason they were revived, then abruptly releasing The Expanse instead as an EGS exclusive instead after they did basically 0 marketing for it, presumably for Tim's exclusivity cash infusion to keep them afloat
TT Expanse was on steam before the year-long EGS exclusivity should have ended so it must have not sold at all on the epic store
Telltale is still being retarded and mismanaged, despite /v/ constantly parroting that Dispatch is Telltale it is a seperate company made by TT an Ubi devs that left years ago
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>>544707150
what space ip should they have done instead then?
keep it mind, it's for a mass effect ripoff
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Why does the expanse trigger schizos so hard?
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>>544708276
Dune
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>>544708239
>its not that niche
Never heard of it before fake
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>>544708276
>mass effect ripoff
Star Wars
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>>544708227
Maybe but I doubt they would have turned Owlcat down if they wanted to go that route. GW is pretty loose with their licenses anyway. You can count the good warhammer (40k and fantasy) vidya on two hands despite there being a good amount of it. Owlcat just likes doing the red headed step child route.
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>>544708239
>it had a whole tv show
The rating on that show were mid
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>>544708239
>its not that niche
I've literally never heard about it before the announcement, and now that I have, I have no intereset in watching ti
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>>544708421
how would you frame it outside the book/movie events
>>544708497
no one wants to touch that ip anymore
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>>544708539
name THREE good tv shows made in the past decade
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>>544699918
>found out she has a BF
cucked by Shart in BG3 and IRL,not fair
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>>544706647
Found the bg3 one
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/18744?tab=images
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Owlcat should work with Matt Reeves and make a DC video game.
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>>544708539
Do you ever just sit down and enjoy anything or do you only recreationally jerk off to ratings and charts?
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I'm gonna do it for real this time
I'm definitely going to start playing Pillars
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>>544708825
>the boys but gayer
>set in DC
I don't want to see Owlcat go anywhere near capeshit. Thankfully they don't seem the type either.
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>>544708801
Shes a OF whore of course she has a bf
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>>544708889
The great irony of steamcharts faggots like the one samefagging in this thread is that they think they're above normalfags but will always refer to muh numbers before deciding whether a show/game is good
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>>544708926
i don't know, wrath felt very capeshit
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>>544709043
I was going to point out how edgy it is but you may have a point here since they do allow you to stand against the edginess. Capeshit absolutely requires higher ideals is the problem since Owlcat likes being """subversive""". Can't stand the "what if superheroes were awful" shit. Except Zetman but that's a bit deeper.
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>>544709295
>Owlcat likes being """subversive"""
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>>544709665
Yeah it's hard to call it subversive when it's their general MO but that's the intent. I too find it tiresome.
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More games should do the the Brian Fargo thing of letting you pick extreme perks that massively alter your gameplay. It was really fun have a clown and a lone wolf in wasteland 3.
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>>544709665
have you played wotr?
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It's funny, in order to gate your levels, they just give you a 2000 xp level spike when so far it's been like a few hundred to level. 6000 xp has given me 15 levels (which maths to about 400 each), and then they suddenly want 2000 for one level. While things in this area are still giving like 7 for a passed check, and 2 for an enemy killed in combat.
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>>544710058
They should revert alignment points gain back to how it was on release
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>>544708669
Severance season 1
Maniac
uhhh that's all
shit you got me
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>>544700803
>>544702194
VtMB2 has far, FAR more in common with Dying Light than it does VtM:B. Is Dying Light a CRPG?
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>>544708539
Imagine being this retarded about scifi media
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>>544710540
it was dogshit on release. i went full dogmatic and didn't get past tier 3 until the credits rolled
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>>544710732
am i supposed to have played every game? if i ask a question, answer it. you're being evasive
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>>544710820
Ok, fair. To the way it was a couple of months after the release. Reaching top rank should be hard and really require conviction
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>>544702194
>>544710987
its a citysplore power walking simlike soft-adventure with tinges of quasi-action elements
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>>544711032
that would be better than how it was. so how is it now?
actually, i wouldn't min dipping a little for buffs
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>>544711213
>it's a buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword buzzword
You need to play and read and watch a lot of different things if you want to appreciate good rpgs. It shouldn't matter that vtmb2 isn't a "true" crpg, whatever your definition of that is, as long as the writing is good.
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I hate sci-fi urban fantasy. Just give me straight up magic in Detroit.
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>>544711283
>so how is it now?
You don't have to worry about conviction at all. Just pick whatever and chances are you will rech at least rank 4 easily. Why even call it conviction if it clearly requires none of it
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>>544711353
sorry only japs do this for some reason. For western developers something about it triggers there autism and for some reason magic always has to be secret and behind the scenes.
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>>544711337
well it isn't
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Is outerworlds 2 crpg of the year?
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>>544711213
i liked deus ex. it's more reactive than many games that call themselves crpg
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>>544711880
I think we can just pass on this honor this year.
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>>544711880
dollies too ugly
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>>544711880
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>>544707150
Maybe Owlcat's name carries it if Dark Heresy is successful? What are the chances it outsells RT and WOTR?
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You can get up to 22 profit factor in chapter 1 here, but you lose 2 if you choose the nice option during abelard's side quest with the lower decks, putting you at 20, which means there is exactly 1 item you can't buy here. You can clear out the tech priest vendor with 20 PF though.

That's what you get for being nice...
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>>544713427
which one is the non-nice option
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>>544711379
oh by the way, how are the dlc?
i'd like to replay the game, the goth gf looks good but the dog thing not so much
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>>544713778
>the goth gf looks good but the dog thing not so much
Pretty much
Void Shadows has the goth-fu and a lot of well done side quests
Lex Imperialis has the dog and other pets and some interesting side quests but it's more like bits and pieces rather than a solid whole
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>>544713427
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>>544714186
i don't know if i have it in me to play the game exactly the same way again but icono was just dumb and heresy was straight retarded.
shame there's no standalone like through the ashes
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did owlcat win?
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Owlcat should make more fantasy-set games. 40k brings too many ugly guys into the fanbase.
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>>544714817
if i had to do it again which decisions would i change
>i would kill the black chick sooner
>i'd keep argenta at arm's length i was expecting a romance option
>i might keep the elf as a pet instead of killing it right away a joke, what use is an elf that you can't have sex with?
>recruit jae, i didn't know about her
>make mc a fighter or a psyker or both
>try the new gothfu stuff
considering the game was about 60hrs to do nearly all of the content, this is basically all the same.
well, owlcat games don't really have much replayability anyway, it's not like this is ogre tactics or something where there are different routes. you just get a few dialogue changes if you do something different. you're lucky to have 5 different lines in an act that mention your player character class and origins
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>>544715601
It brings in more money sadly
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So Bioware cuckquans women, Owlcat cuckolds men?
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We beat the game. That was a pretty good game. A bit short, but I liked the characters, and the plot wrapped up nicely when we killed the cult leader at the cenobium. Definitely looking forward to their next game.
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>>544716703
We didn't know how good we had it bros...
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Is Veilguard as bad as everyone says? Every other bioware game I have played was good.
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>>544714817
You don't have to go all one or the other. Dogma is best usually with situational icono
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>>544714817
Most of the variation comes from doing a different combat build
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Since we are talking about Bioware cuckolrdy, is the ultimate cuck run female elf mage romancing Alistair?
>Elves are subhuman class in the kingdom
>Mages are jannied by Templars
>You can't be his queen, since you are not human. You have to let him have a wife for the kingdom.
>If that wasn't enough cuckqueaning you need let Morrigan cuckquean you unless you want Alistair or you to die.
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>>544716865
gg. which girl do you expect to get in the epilogue?
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>>544716865
kys
>>544716960
Yes if you care about DA lore or themes it takes a massive shit all over it.
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working on an NTR/femdom forced-bi noncon ex-pat Chinese supremacy fic, want to clear my mind a bit, what crpg should I play?
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>>544717825
dragon age: origins
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>>544698351
The mongrussy got me actin unwise
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>>544717825
Wukong: Black Myth
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crpgg challenge play a crpg
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Why is armor so bad in Wrath? It was decently good in Kingmaker, where PJs could still better for tanking by end game, but not by that much and required significantly more feat investment to get better than armored builds. In Wrath, the lighter armored builds shit on the heavy armor builds from the getgo, and by late game, a wizard or rogue in a robe is a better tank than a knight with endgame fullplate.
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>>544718456
Cast Hideous Laughter on Regill in the council meeting right as he's about to comment on the thin walls of the upper citadel and how long they've been waiting for the knight commander of the fifth crusade to pay attention to the war at hand
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>>544718667
based on my crpg experience, they are all variants of awful
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>>544718667
it's good with the new mythic armor feats. I never found it a problem. Lots of cool armors too.

>b-b-b-but muh meme difficulty
please don't let this be your thesis
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>>544718667
For some reason, Owlcat decided not to implement the feats that raised the dodge caps for armor (with the mythic one removing caps all together).

>>544719032
Everyone who is still playing Wrath are playing it on Unfair.
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>>544719142
>Everyone who is still playing Wrath are playing it on Unfair.
Incorrect opinion.
New players, and also me who prefers Hard because Unfair is just stupid like LoB. And I'd buy a drink for anyone playing on Core and respec'ing companions for interesting RP-adjacent classes that don't minmax, but aim for cool and fun.
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>>544718667
> It was decently good in Kingmaker, where PJs could still better for tanking by end game, but not by that much and required significantly more feat investment to get better than armored builds.

Armor in KM looked better, as well.
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>>544719504
>muh dollies
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>>544718667
There's not a single piece of heavy armor I can think of that would be in the top 10 best armors. Aside from no armor + buffs, all the best armors are light or medium. Heavy armor has too many tradeoffs with negligible gain except looking cooler. If you ask me, it's yet another noob trap Owlcat put in the game. They make the most badass armor type the worse, but noobs don't know better.
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>>544719142
>For some reason, Owlcat decided not to implement the feats that raised the dodge caps for armor (with the mythic one removing caps all together).
They added those feats in about a year ago.

>>544719032
>it's good with the new mythic armor feats. I never found it a problem. Lots of cool armors too.
Pajamas are still best armor due to Mythic Medium Endurance feat bugs. Medium Endurance adds Archmage Armor to your total armor before halving and adding as bonus. This is irrespective of what armor you are actually wearing. That's just for tanking though. If you're speccing for DPS, take Heavy Assault, combine it with Archmage Armor (which procs Heavy Assualt due to bugs), and your character gets a ridiculous attack score.
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>>544720815
Why do 90% of fucking Owlcat builds revolve around bug exploits?
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>>544720968
The same reason all the best BG builds revolved around exploiting the simulacrum helmet
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>>544720815
>If you're speccing for DPS
I'm speccing for what fits my backstory and RP :)
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>>544721148
class =/= rp
it's just gameplay mechanics. rp is what you do in between the combat.
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Why do you guys care about “builds” for your single player rpg? Just make your own characters. You don’t need a guide to outsmart the AI. Stop ruining video games with your gay optimization.
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>>544718554
There is like 4 people here who dont play owlcat games over and over again. This should just be an owlcat general
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>>544721628
Making your own character is making a build
That's like 80% of the gameplay in a crpg
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Inxile>Obsidian
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>>544721917
Don’t be a disingenuous fag. You know they are talking about “bug exploits” because they are trying to use other people’s builds.
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Froggy has already proven that wotr is a solved game, why even play it?
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>>544722047
This is probably true because Inxile used to be the parent company that spawned Obsidian when it was Black Isle.
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>>544722374
Im talking about recently, Obsidian hasn't made a good rpg since pillars the new wasteland games and the tales games are actually fun.
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>>544722947
Pentiment?
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>>544722260
>solved game
retard couldn't even play me on OGS or BBO
just paint-by-numbers and barking loud like little doggies do
CRPGs are RPGs ie playing roles, not being autistic retards, his loudness demonstrates all you need to know about his capabilities
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Okay crpg who is the best bloodlines 2 romamce?
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>>544723414
not a crpg
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>>544723414
kys, the blonde is voiced by a tranny also
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>b-b-b-but muh big numbies build
The kind of retards who convince people that you need to spend 45 minutes pre-buffing in WotR instead of just merely setting the difficulty appropriate to your preferred playstyle and level of challenge.
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high af playing RT
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Why do other clans hate tremere so much they are just wizards?
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Why doesn’t crpgg have the capacity to roleplay in their roleplaying games?
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people where do not play their roles, been saying this
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>>544724016
Really? That knocks this game down yet another discount tier for me, at this rate I'll just hold off until its <5$.
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>>544725496
I am currently playing the role of high af tremere that threatens to explode anyone with blood magic the second they defy me.
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>>544725095
bro is too high af to say his line
finish with RT so you can play something that I'm interested in
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>>544725154
Tremere stole Tzimisce blood and then wiped out an entire clan of ascetic healer vampires.
And that's just what they did to establish themselves. Most clans have a good reason to never trust them.
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>>544726598
>>544725095
how many carpigs high af?
is it a genre that attracts people with escapist tendencies more than others? who want to play a role in a carefully controlled and curated environment? who find the outside world too difficult, too confusing, or just too mundane?
Or are you players of roles, you purveyors of whimsy and drama, of at least the illusion of branching consequence drawn to the limits, limits which other genres don't offer, and which sober life also doesn't offer?

Forgive me, I'm in my cups.
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if you die in a crpg while high af,
you die irl.

It won't seem like anything has happened, it's absolutely seamless.
Just be aware, that's part of the cont
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I don’t like people who can’t roleplay. The genre is for thinkers and feelers like me. You insects that optimise in roleplaying games need to stop ruining a genre that isn’t for you.
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This so far looks more engaging and with more care put into it than Dark Heresy. The cover art is coherent and dramatic, as opposed to the static hodge-podge of DH
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>>544727773
The Real Ironman.

If you see this, you have died in a CRPG at some point while high af.
You are a ghost and that's fine. Just keep doing what you're doing, don't worry. You had the one life, and you lost it, but it's no big deal.

I'm presenting as a big joke because at some point or other it has to get through to you, but we're not rushing it.
Should you have played a little more seriously? Maybe, maybe not. You played your role, that's what's important.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYgJmSz5Gtk
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I want to get raped by jae.
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>>544728372
I don't think she would do that. She's pretty submissive
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God I can't wait to play my next role, I don't even care what happens
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>>544727160
its a friday afternoon so im enjoying a couple bongs and some vidya, its not that deep
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That's what Rip Van Winkle thought.
Now look at him.
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Play Fey games, win Fey prizes.
>it's just a bong rip
>it's just a beer
>it's just a role
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How much longer until the solasta 2 ea? i want to get high af and play that
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Actually life is Ironman
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wait did they call it that from the Black Sabbath song
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>>544718667
It is weird. Here is me doing the monk-dip meme on a level 6 character. Top is me using fullplate+1. Mid is no armor. Bottom is mage armor. You can see that heavy armor is fucked. You have less movement and far less AC.
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>dip
stopped reading there
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>>544730487
Armor isn't to protect, it's for the mythic feats that give you a ton of extra attack. Yeah, PF logic is that armor boosts attack values while going naked boosts AC. PF is kookie like that.

>>544730570
Absolutely everyone dips. Going monoclass severely gimps your potential and creativity. The capstones you get for staying loyal are absolute dung in comparison to the benefit a dip or two brings.
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>>544730858
Your MC is a shit-mutt that you have no emotional connection to.
Your "dipping" is soulless and dull, and the fact that you would play this role reflects that you yourself are soulless and dull.
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>>544723414
Safia of course
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>>544730858
>Absolutely everyone dips
Never have, never would
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>>544731034
Imagine being so fucking dull that you're incapable of coming up with any roleplay reason to justify dipping. Never mind that classic dnd characters used to have builds like this because of roleplaying.
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Gums flapping in the wind.
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my favourite dip is french onion
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You know how they have half/half classes? A ranger/monk class should be a thing especially since alot of monks like to be one with nature.
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>>544731393
Yeah, but you have to admit that everyone picking LG just to dip monk is retarded.
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>>544731284
You're responding to someone who doesn't play any roles
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If you dip you really should go play league of legends. Roleplaying is beyond your capabilities.
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>muh numbies
>i-i-i-it's ok alright everyone does it
>also I mean also!! numbies!!
>i-i-i-i can j-justify it i swear
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is copying builds of youtube roleplay?
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>>544731713
>I can't just PLAY the game!
>how do I know what BUILD to use
>what does my favorite """"INFLUENCER"""" say to do
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How much longer until owlcats orginal IP so o can truly judge them as a studio.
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>>544731713
You need to stop projecting sis
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Imagine caring how much about how other people play a game.
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>>544731782
no no, i organically came to the conclusion that i need to take dips into 8 different classes
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Larian=LeBron James
Owlcat=Victor Wembanyama
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shitty steamcharts thread = dead
good leliana thread = alive
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>>544731509
Ranger as a class was based off of Aragorn they should be LG by default
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>>544732068
stfu dipfag. you are hated and will always be shunned. roleplay or go play rts games.
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>>544718667
Gygax was operating on the idea of plate being like webm related, as in, so heavy that knights required hoisting to mount their horses. Of course, we know that's ridiculous, but the idea stuck around in tabletop and vidya to this day.
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>>544732418
>but the idea stuck around in tabletop and vidya
in shitty tabletop and shitty vidya maybe
it's not even the case in d&d, THE most popular rpg system
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Will Solasta 2 save the crpg genre?
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>>544732795
That depends on its steamcharts peak.
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>>544732795
Dont worry with all the kepler interactive money solasta 2 will be the bg3 killer.
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>>544733108
Funny. This is the number to beat, btw.
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>>544732418
That's one of those older boomer memes, like quicksand.
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>>544733234
875k wow
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Threadly reminder that R*szard is a ship's doctor, a position of great responsibility, and has many adventures on the high seas, while you are stuck here circling the drain.
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>eceleb drivel
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>>544697750
>>544697750

thread for the non discord clique if you dont want to discuss reddit posters
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>>544734569
Thread splitting is the most boring kind of drama/trolling, please be better.
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yeah my discord friends decided to make a 2nd thread while laughing in vc but we spammed more posts about cuckolding so you split it
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>>544734569
>crpgg when it's not discussing owlcat games
grim
I think I'll stay here
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Hows sword saint in wotr?
Also best class for dual wielding that isnt rogue?
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Dippers, 40k fans, and critical role fans should all be exiled to the 2nd general
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we dont like the thread, we make a new one

when we want to share Raszard memes, we simply do it

we run this general 4chan losers
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0 minutes since the steamcharts kid cried about larian or owlcat's success
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>>544734936
cope loser, reddit is for serious discussion, 4chan is for shitposting
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u/OwlcatStarrok

Watch the Alpha Release Date Trailer for Warhammer 40,000: Dark Heresy — a party-based, story-driven cRPG from Owlcat Games. The Alpha launches on December 16 on Steam!

^^^12/16/25^^^

date we take over this general again froggy. dont mock owlgods next time dork
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>outerworlds 2
obshitian made dogshit for decades and burnt bridges. whined the publishers were holding them back. scammed on kickstarter and released shitty bg knock offs. josh is back to his old tricks about the 'money' instead of publishers this time. what's holding back the projects is excuse man and not a $300 million blank check. Inxile got bought by Microsoft and is still making fun and good games with an consistent output, its all just excuses.
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I remember when trolls used to be respectable and funny. Now they are just sad little limpwrists who do it for other fags approval. Back in my day we did it for the love of the game and to make people seethe.
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>>544735704
Josh Sawyer got lucky with New Vegas due to its place and time. He's just hot air otherwise.
Plus the name "Obsidian" reminds people of "Black Isle"
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>>544736321
no one cares grandpa shouldnt you be with your wife and kids instead of posting?

no ones trolling there was a shit thread so we made a new one and posted there
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Sable company marine or gendarme?
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>>544737046
You are trying too hard little boy.
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Tremere is the only real nigga clan, they just be wizards and do whatever they want.
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>>544735153
Can't comment on ss but I found arcane rider pretty mid.
All the elemental enchants you get through arcane weapon are trash because pretty much everything you fight has energy resistance. Spell strike and spell combat are trash because you'll statistically do more damage just two-hamding a glaive or whatever, plus you've got the energy resistance problem working against shocking grasp etc. Magus casting is a lot less exciting when you could play a pure martial and have casting anyway from your mythic.
On the other hand, dimension blade comes in clutch sometimes, the ss-specific shit might be enough to carry the class and I played before most of the DLCs were out so I dunno if they've changed anything.

Slayer and ranger are both good.
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>>544703734
haven't played azata but it could be good.
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>>544737492
You can do both. 1 level of sable company first gets you the mount and you're pretty much losing nothing if you take the rest in gendarme.
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>>544739490
Dont you lose the giga charge from gend and all the ac stuff from sable?
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I wouldn't bother with level 20 abilities desu, very few actually make a huge difference at that point and your prebuffing will already make you OP.
Plus skalds can give your entire party the pounce ability which makes it so that you can perform a full action after a charge, which is probably more OP than gendarme's level 20 ability.
As for sable, rangers in general benefit a lot from their favored enemy feats assuming you pick them correctly, in wrath it's easy to figure out what to pick, so yeah if you only dip in it you'll use all the favoured enemy feats.
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>>544739606
The hippogriff is so good it's worth losing the capstone. If anything I'd do 15 gendarme so you can get some favoured enemy from ranger.
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>>544740026
you'll lose* all the favoured enemy...


The new captcha is annoying.
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Sable it is
Now all im torn between is dual wielding or going with a scythe
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stop liking evil women like Orin and Safia
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I only have eyes for mama
Mama is best girl
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>>544700803
Kill this cunt with fire.
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high af, sippin some tea, playin some RT
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high as a kite, laughing at froggy's dead thread
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I would rather be a level 20 character that feels awesome and might have a lackluster capstone than a shit-mutt 19 + "oh also for a day I trained as a monk and now can deflect damage with the force of my personality ;) ;)" retard.
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>>544742079
not related to CRPGs
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>>544743282
Trever has a shitbuild but it's also the most SOVLful build in wotr.
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>>544743282
Do you ever curse god for inflicting you with such a specific form of autism?
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>>544743464
The kind of autism that's "I play roles instead of maxing my big numbies"? If it's autism then I'm okay with it.
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but big numbies make pp go hard
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>>544744224
What about small but well formed numbie
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my level 20 character is so powerful he could one-shot gods and your army
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My lvl 20 gets snuggled without his consent every night
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We need to find a no single class autist so we can make him and the dip autist fight
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my level 20 character could solo the saiyans
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>>544744934
Goku is only a level 16 monk.
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What if every level was a dip?
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>>544745697
Dip deez nuts in your mouth GOTTEM
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>>544745801
FUCK
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>>544745697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfprRZQxWps
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>>544744419
Well I was meming, I actually get more joy at getting my subpar shitbuild theories to function even passably.
Currently the idea is that I'm trying to make a buffer that can cast a wide net of 24 hour buffs, so went with a mystic theurge angel to get as much buffs as I can get both arcane and divine.
With both enduring spells, and hoping I can reach spell level 25 with my merged spellbook, I should be able to metamagic extend 1 round/level buffs to 24 hours.
It's a weird build but my goal is to trivialize the constant buffing that is necessary in owlcat games.
Anyway, it's probably not unfair viable but it's working just fine on core with all the mistakes I keep making.
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>>544745697
>>544745697
you saying that gave me vague memories of seeing someone actually try to do this as a challenge where he's not allowed to take two levels in the same class.
I quickly looked it up on youtube but found nothing so it could me fake memories, or maybe some anon here did it in the past and posted about it.
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>>544745697
first bg3 playthrough I decided to go for that cheevo, expecting to start over.
instead, it was piss easy. Made me feel a certain way about the game (badly)
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>he actually took it
lol, lmao
absolute waste of mythics
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If you can't beat the game with a non-autismally optimized build, then you're a shitler.
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>constant buffing that is necessary
>on core
Hahahahahaha
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Nobody's even talked about any autistically optimized builds itt
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>>544747914
post them I like seeing builds
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>>544713778
Both dlcs are very good and worth playing not for companions (the bitch is terrible, and the nig is meh) but for the content and for the new archetypes
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Is WOTR on unfair the hardest crpg of all time?
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>>544714817
I suggest you try a full dogma inquisition run. It has very satisfying narrative flow and resolution. Yes, you'll have to play ball with calcazar, but once he see that you're the real deal and just like him want only the best for the imperium he treats you as an equal
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>>544748080
not really since crpg bro showed a lot of subpar builds that absolutely shit on unfair
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>>544748026
>the bitch is terrible
This is by no means the consensus
>>544713778
Anon most people find the goth girl interesting and like her, never mind this anon's >>544748026 personal opinion.
Moreover the first DLC has a lot of extra content that is well worth it.
He's right about the space nig cop, but that second DLC has other stuff, including a boarding action on a pirate ship, and a visit to a medieval planet.
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Is underrail the hardest crpg of all time?
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This bitch keeps getting blood all over my carpets
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>>544748623
I AM HELPFUL AM I NOT
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We need another pool of radiance game.
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Pool of Radiance: Hong Kong
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Hey new here does goldbox games count-
>>544749428
Hell yeah
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>people unironically dip
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>>544750126
I call them "piggers", short for "pig niggers"
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Are your issues only with one level dips or with multiclassing in general?
What about prestige classes?
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>>544750234
>prestige classes?
Thats when dnds class design peaked.
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>play a system that was designed from the ground up to encourage dipping
>piss my pants and cry when there is in fact dipping
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>>544731284
Notice that's still 20 wiz? Because he's mainly a mage, the others are fluff. Fluff is good, dips are gay, and making up contrived headcanon to justify your powergaming is even gayer.
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>>544750654
>dipping is so soulless bro you’re not even roleplaying
>making up stuff? lol fucking gay headcanon bro. roleplaying like a faggot bro we don’t do that shit here
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>>544750654
Nah, dipping is fun. Your autism has no say on the matter.
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>>544750906
justify a scaled fist dip on literally anything but a dragon blooded sorc/bloodrager. I could use a laugh.
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>>544751097
who other than you has even talked about monk dips
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scaled fist dip living rent free in this trannies mind lmao
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>>544750234
Prestiges are fine. They are a logical continuation of certain classes. It's when you go into 2 lvl of paladin, 3 lvls of rogue and 5 lvls of fighter that you become a dip nigger
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Hear me out
6 naval officers.
Just run them in and let the AI kill themselves off proccing their offhands.
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>>544751615
Try it out, why not
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Ineffect's builds have ruined an entire generation of gamers
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>>544751449
3.5e had penalties for dipping like that, you couldn't just take one level in one thing and ignore it for the rest of your leveling. Some races had exemptions for different dips but mostly you dipping like you do in pathfinder would harm you.
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>>544698351
My wife
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>>544751810
nah this is a zoomer obsession
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>>544751810
Most people itt mock ineffect’s stupid dips so I have no idea who anon is even sperging out about here. Scaled fist dips aren’t even good if we’re talking pure meta autism.
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favorite crpg ost?
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>>544751884
Yeah, I remember. I also remember certain powerful races having lvl penalties, like a lvl 5 drow could only have 1 class lvl because 4 other lvls were racial or something like that. That was fun
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>>544752727
Fallout 1 and 2 ambience is still unsurpassed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn3UDyLf9-A
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>>544752727
string quartet from arcanum
with vocals vtmb
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>Diggers think they are human
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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>>544752760
Was that for drow? I remember dhampir had something like that. I think they called it a level adjsutment or something similar.
Basically some races are naturally more powerful than others so they level up slowing in their classes. It was a way to have OP racial abilities whilst still balancing the game. I don't think it was implemented well desu.
But the penalty to dipping was nice.
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>>544754861
I don't remember the specifics, but yeah drow had a racial lvl penalty, and it was a significant one - like 7 lvls or something
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>>544755138
I misremembered. The lvl adjustment for drows was just 2 lvls, not 7.
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Fighter/Mage Multi > Fighter/Mage Dual
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>>544752727
Divinity Original Sin 2 has a banger OST
Wrath and Rogue Trader are also quite good
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>>544756997
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>>544752727
Divine divinty and its not even close. The composer was a genius, and did every divinity track to os1. too bad he died right before larian finally hit mainstream
https://youtu.be/G3wOfUnqsyg?si=SaVuU4TCNpJBZCDK
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>>544748080
Both pathfinder games balance are absolutely fucked and are incredibly easy if you just know whats the good talents and good buffs to cast
Hardest crpg on standard difficulty is idk icewind dale maybe its been years since i played that tho
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wtf, why nobody told me rogue trader was so good. Definitely my favorite owlcat game. Now as I have completed the game should I try WOTR or KINGMAKER again, last played wotr 2 years ago and NEVER finished KINGMAKER.
OR play rogue trader again on unfair (first playthrough was DARING)
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>>544756997
cute rogue trader
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>>544758432
Oh wait i forgot underrail exist
Its probably underrail
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>>544758432
I finished BG 1 and 2 + IW last year in that order and definitely with BG1 I had the most problems, there is just so many FUCK YOU moments. IW combat is fucking 100 times better though and IW2 is the bis
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>>544758432
Parhfinder balance is so bad, the whole game im prepping to finally fight deskari. A big story moment
Nigga explodes in 1 attack round from an overbuffed and over stacked wenduag
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>>544758838
>86 attacks of opportunity in 0.1 seconds while standing in front of your face
Nothing personnel kid...
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>>544758838
You can have your entire party immune to 99% of magic with 100% uptime with communal spells
Stoneskin on the entire party the best spell in bg except its even stronger rin pathfinder and again its party wide and not caster only for practically free, i had more dust than i could ever hope to use by the midgame
Very silly game
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>>544758838
>overbuffed and over stacked
Problem with the Pathfinder games is that Owlcat balanced them around the idea that the player will pre-buff with everything they can, take dips to raise their BAB and AC, etc., which in turn sort of forces the player to do just that
In this case they are also sort of stuck between a rock and a hard place, since even if they didn't make everything have ridiculous ACs and shit, the Pathfinder 1e system itself would still allow the player to pre-buff to high heavens and take a dozen dips to min-max themselves, thus making all the content that would have been balanced around non-buffed adventures just pointlessly easy
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muh dips
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Was thinking of getting Solasta, is the combat challenging? Was thinking base game only run for starters.
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Bg3 is a downgrade from dos2 in fun factor
I actually hate 5e ruleset i think
Dos2 your over here at like level 5 casting 2-5 battlefield changing spells or landing multiple criticals a turn, in 5e you instead cast a single concentration spell that instantly breaks anyways and end your turn. Like all my wizard did for 20 hours in bg3 was cast cloak of daggers because it just did a lot of damage instantly
Yeah dos2 ruleset is a bit stupid in some places but i just don’t really care as long as it lets me do cool things
Also spells slots and rest is gay and dnd should have swapped to a mp system 3 editions ago, they are only around because they have always been around.
Also remove missing already, you can balance stats around something else than just raw accuracy. Nothing is worse than your only single attack or spell a turn doing literally nothing
Also i like the whiplash of tone in dos2 a lot more, feels more table top esq of funny little side quest being 20 mins away from mass graves in the streets
Keeps it interesting
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Obsidian is the most overrated gaming studio of all time.
They have exactly 2 good games fallout new vegas and kotor 2 and even both of those were built on groundwork and foundations laid by others
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>>544761168
Crpgs going for real time instead of being turn based like tabletop when using tapletob rules was the right move.
Missing and single action a turn is anti fun in turn based
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>dippers
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>544762754
Don't blame them martials for needing extra classes to pass Unfair
Not everyone is born equal.
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>>544717394
It is, it just won't get recognition because it's happening to women.
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>>544761168
My biggest issue with the combat in Dos2 isn't even the fault of the combat
If you want to respect and do another build (at least in act 1), you're sort of fucked due to the skill book system it uses. So if you started by being a pyromancer but ended up deciding to respec into using scoundrel skills, you'd end up having the pyromancer skills without being able to use them while simultaneously having to go and buy all the scoundrel skill books
It's such a bloody hassle, and makes me wish the skill books weren't the only way you could learn spells and shit. They'd be fine if putting enough points into stuff like pyromancy or scoundrel gave you some of the skills as sort of "innate knowledge"
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What roles are /crpgg/ folks playing today?
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>>544768198
> You're one of those mercenaries. I was in the army once, full of dope-puffing socialists. You probably heard of me, Calvin Barkmore, broke every record they keep track of.
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>>544761168
Amazing. You have the wrong opinion on literally every single point. But at least you have DOS2 and you can replay that.
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What's the "Human male fighter" of crpg devs?
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>>544761168
5e's a pain in the balls because it is so slanted towards combat and borderline taking wargaming levels of dice rolls to just nuke things. Sure it kinda works for a videogame where naturally you'll get people leaning into more killy murderhobo tendencies or you can just have a lot of sections solved by combat, boss build up, whatever, but it does stifle a lot of the usual alternate routes to take. I tried so hard in my playthrough of BG3 to specifically go a route that was not going to end in a fight, and the amount of situations that still will try to force a check that can end with a fight even if you were relatively diplomatic is a little irritating. Sometimes it works out, others not so much. As far as doing it on tabletop, even with a lot of popularity for 5e, I have seen so few DMs truly combat people trying to just giga nuke everything
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>>544768198
Dragging my heels on finishing the SR: HK bonus campaign because I don't want the cozy game to be over
But it probably will be today

>>544769304
I don't know what that is but it gave me a good chuckle
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>>544761168
I think they implemented a graze mechanic in the 2024 revised ruleset.
Pillars of eternity had that I think.
But removing missing entirely in any system us stupid, you're saying no one is allowed to miss any attack? No one is allowed to block an attack with their shield or armor? No one is allowed to dodge an attack?
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IN THE NAME OF KANE
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who kane?
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>>544761168
>Also remove missing already, you can balance stats around something else than just raw accuracy. Nothing is worse than your only single attack or spell a turn doing literally nothing
What a faggot.
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>>544769913
Jagged Alliance 2. A reference caricature of the infamous Cleve Blakemore ,I won't go into the actual lore, but an interesting insight into being autistic in the 90s doing game dev.
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>>544771079
>>544769950
So just added evasion on top of it and make the baseline 100%
Dos2 had practically no acc check and it worked fine. The armor system was a first draft and can be worked on more like maybe just nerfing cc in a turn based game as a whole anyways or just make that part a dice roll or it builds up so you need to use multiple ccs of the same type like a stagger bar
But would dos2 be more fun if my spells and attacks just didn’t work half of the time?
Uh no
Would bg 1 and 2 be fun well liked games if they were turn based like the tabletop and your fighters and wizards attacks and spells didn’t work every other turn?
No?
Accuracy being a big deal in turn based is a bad idea
You only like it because your ape brain think it needs to exist because it always existed same as spell slots
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>>544772485
Also it makes character building so lame. The only thing that truly matters is increasing your accuracy
Nice 40 talents retard, im taking the +2 tho
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>>544772485
The only turn based crpg i like that has accuracy is fallout and thats just because tagging a skill and putting points in like two level ups make you capped accurate for the rest of the game anyways lol
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Why'd they do it
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I used to hate missing in turn-based games and always savescummed the misses until I hit
Then I played one where you weren't allowed to save in combat and learned to live with them, to appreciate them
They add a certain level of tactical and strategical depth to the combat. You could use a weaker attack that has a higher chance to hit (or is even guaranteed to hit) or a strong attack that could miss, and then you need to live with the result and adapt accordingly
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>>544773486
Literally name 5 games, because in bg3 outside of getting advantage which okay thats something that adds depth you only use the one attack and it misses or hits
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>>544773486
Its the opposite of depth because it means that success or failure can depend entirely on a dice roll outside of your control. You could play the same match with the same strategy and curbstomp one and get washed the other because of rng.
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>>544773663
don't know exactly what you mean, but I meant the missing and stuff more generally over the course of combat, not during one single turn

>>544774041
aye, that's true
just wanted to share my views, since I don't think being able to miss is that bad of a thing

>>544773874
iirc they're supposed to put it in beta soon-ish
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>>544772485
>>544772979
Accuracy makes sense in a ranged context. An archer or gunner having chance to miss at a distance and a high chance to hit close up just makes intuitive sense and forces the very realistic dilemma between range and accuracy.

Every melee strike having rolls just leads too much rng. Having rng on spells makes misses way too punishing. Rng on splash damage is fucking retarded.
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>>544774439
Say you have no idea how real combat works without saying you have no idea how real combat works.
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>>544774769
Uh oh bro armchair warrior on 4chan just logged in
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>>544774880
t.
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>>544775027
> erm actually thats not real warfare is. Actually when i practice with my katana i miss fairly often
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>>544775161
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I wish I was a prancing la-la homo man...
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>>544774769
>I have a taekwondo green belt
What a badass
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I hope Dark Heresy has an AdMech companion
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>>544762754
I like fighter/mage multis. sue me
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>>544776994
>im going to be an epic battle mage
>im going to cast defensive magic and teleport into combat
>uh oh its bg3
> i wont have access to extra attack and stone skin until level 12, the ending of the game
>only 1 spell slot to cast , and prob going to break concentration on first hit anyways
> i should have picked the like 3 martial sub classes with magic that are extremely limited for both martial and caster to larp instead
Cool game.
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>>544776816
I think owlcat said it will have a toaster your dolly can stick its weiner in
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>yrliet bad
Eldar are for platonic love anyway. She should be like an older sister teasing you for being a clumsy oaf and getting embarrassed when you meet her friends or prove her wrong all while still being fiercely protective of you.
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>>544777818
>Yrliet should be a <complete different character>
I agree.
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>>544777818
ylriet is the eldar equivalent of a highschool droppout
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Recommend me the best Alistair x Morrigan fanfic
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>humiliates the nice kindhearted Rogue Trader that helped her by denying him any physical intimacy for years
>abandons him for long peroids till he is on his deathbed
>makes him die childless because she forbade him from having any other women despite it not being a sexual relationship
>cuckolds him post-mortem with Marazhai
>thinks she got away with it
>Pasqal comes in wielding the axe of justice and plasma gun of truth
>initiates counter-humiliation protocols and discontinues Yrliet's cycle
You don't love that tech priest enough. He brought justice for all the cuckolded incels.
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Eurac, Prison, or Rykad first?
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>>544781645
I always do Eurac first
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>>544781645
cassia prison then planet
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>>544781645
Save the Winterscale boy first
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I'll take a Jagged Alliance 4, please
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>>544778934
>You don't love that tech priest enough. He brought justice for all the cuckolded incels.
*owlkeks don't let us love that tech priest enough
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>>544783496
You are the most boring kind of person. Anyways doin Rykad first so I can save the rookie soldier.
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>>544783984
>Anyways doin Rykad first so I can save the rookie soldier.
why? He'll die during exterminatus anyway
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What is Yrliet's favorite food and drink?
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>>544784081
Well the other reason is that I want an Arc Rifle asap to try the new talents. So Rykad/Jimmy then Prison then Cassia.
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>>544784279
she is on carnivore diet
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>>544784367
>Arc Rifle asap to try the new talents.
yeah, that's a good reason - rifles feel OP early in game
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>>544784460
Nah she eats fancy meals from the ship's stores then says it's a Paleo diet.
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Thoughts on Yrliet's original voice filter?
https://www.tiktok.com/@nolaklop/video/7309941274805554464
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Can't officially confirm anything of course, but maybe I'll just drop this random picture here ;)
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>>544785159
kneel and start making good romances or get ready for another flop
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>>544785159
Finally a new Glkory of Hercales game
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>>544784837
>Thoughts on Yrliet's original voice filter?
>tiktok
get a job, anon
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>>544785159
Pathfinder 3 confirmed.
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>>544783721
one day
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>>544785361
it's where her VA uploaded the early voice acting
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>>544785386
A new edition already?
Give 2 a couple more years, they finally added most good classes
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>>544783984
cassia is strong as fuck why wouldn't I want to recruit her asap
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>>544785159
I hope not have you seen how shit avowed and outer worlds 2 were?
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>>544785564
Correct. And now that Microsoft MBA retards have been shown the door, we will see a true return to form for Obsidian.
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>>544785159
>>544785386
It's Pillars 3.
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>>544785924
>Pillars 3
>When Deadfire can only end in one way
I don't care what Avowed did to excuse it, Eora is fucking dead and Eothas is to blame.
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>>544785396
owlkeks promised tech priest romance in their new heresy game, but I have a feeling that new tech-priest won't be as great as Pasqal
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imagine how shit a romance written by Sawyer himself would be
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>>544785924
thanks for clearing that up my autistic friend
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>>544786105
We were promised an Admech romance not a tech priest and the promos have included Skitarii. Believe in the Alpha GF.
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>>544786105
Im expecting the priest to be younger and less skilled than Pasqal since he/she is into romance.
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>>544785924
>skitarii
A romance with literally rad-trooper poisoning radiation? Kek, another round of humiliation from owlkeks.
But seriously, why not magos biologis or dominus, or even logis - they are much better fit for investigations game than skitarii
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>>544786182
His personal Pallegina archives is probably the best smut that mankind will never read.
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>>544786182
It would end in heartbreak
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>>544787831
cloaca sexo
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>>544784805
>fancy meals from the ship's stores
I do not think anything for humans is fancy to her
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>>544787831
>>544788524
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>>544789225
>half blind jungle fever midget
he's literally me
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>>544774041
you adapt to the rolls and can choose high chance % or riskier heavier dmg hits
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>>544789225
>We can speak another time
Hilarious whiplash
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Is it possible to fatten an eldar?
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1064120/Unforetold_Witchstone/
What happened to this game, heard a while back it looked to be a promising CRPG, now you can't even buy it.
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You can tell even Owlcat didn't care about Blackwater
This place fucking sucks each time
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>>544786105
>>544786357
I wouldn't mind a Skitarii romance
Hell, it doesn't even need to be a romance
Just give me AdMech
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I wanna smooch her.
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>>544789861
Where did you even hear such a thing?
Their kickstarter?
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>>544790134
just play mechanicus game then
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>>544790752
/v/ and a CRPG youtuber's 'cord a while back. It looked promising, a sandbox CRPG with reactive world. The few dudes there that played it in EA were praising it for the base gameplay, it was buggy since EA, but very promising. Shame it got abandoned due to studio dying
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Pasqal, I have a rare piece of tech in between my legs, come on over and check
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>>544791380
Have already played it
It good
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>>544791732
>due to studio dying
the curse is real
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>>544791970
play again, our lord Omnissiah deserves it
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>>544785159
By every god and his mother, if Obsidian is making a new party-based RPG, PLEASE don't set it in PoE. That setting is terrible. Anything is better even the most generic high fantasy slop is preferable.
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>>544792058
1,000 CRPG studios must burn and fail
1,000 IPs scattered like ash on the wind
Settings, characters, stories... buried until forgotten.
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fuck off lantern king I want to play JA4 or wasteland 4
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>>544790525
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VTMB2's Telltale-like "X appreciated that" is really a nothingburger isn't it
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>>544795085
most likely
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might take a CRPG break, I wish it didn't appear that Civ7 is a pile of shit, what else should I play? Already good with CK2 and 3, doesn't have to be 4x
As fellow crpg fans, what non-crpg should I play
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>Helplessly crushing act 2 hard wotr
Unfair 2x damage is stupid but hard is too easy
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>>544795085
Some of it does affect the endings
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>>544797887
>As fellow crpg fans, what non-crpg should I play
VTMB2
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Do people actually not know that obsidian has different teams or are they shitposting
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>>544798397
There is only one employee there and its Sawyer, everybody knows this.
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>>544797887
Total War: Warhammer III is fun
Dawn of War: Definite Edition is nice
The Darksiders series is nice
The Metro series is kino
Workers & Resources: Soviet Republic is fun, comrade
Fire Emblem and JRPGs like the Tales of series
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>>544797887
/egg/fag here try opus magnum or factorio. I play just about everything though in every genre
>>544798738
Total war wh3 will last you a whole year if you like it
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>>544798738
I'll pass on the 40slop, but now I'm not sure how seriously to take your other suggestions, thanks anyways.
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I was gonna do a replay of Rogue Trader, and this time maybe finish it past act 4, but decided to finally give WOTR a proper ol college try. Installed Wokeless Wrath for white Seelussi.

What is the /crpg/ approved class for first playthrough? Thinking to just go paladin and purge all evil with extreme prejudice (other than Camellia, she looks cute)

Also, am I missing any crucial mods or patches?
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>>544799463
You don’t have to resort to this to bump the thread
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>>544799463
You seem like a retard, but I hope you have fun
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>>544797887
Grim Dawn or Monster Hunter Rise.
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>>544799276
have you played Songs of Syx, if so what did you think?
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>>544799463
T. Raging homosexual
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>>544800119
Early access? I never play anything early access
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>>544800516
why is she so red there
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>>544800621
I don't ever, but it looks very promising.
None of the suggestions really hit it for me but thanks anyways, don't want to shit up the place.
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>>544799463
please link the mod this shit is hilarious
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>>544800516
what is even happening with that whole pillow situation
unplayable garbage
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Absolute cinema.
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>>544801094
https://rpghq.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2191

I honestly thought that mod is standard.

Anyway, I am for real here. There's a billion fucking classes, wtf am I supposed to choose here, I might be retarded but I'm not trying to bump the threat or nothing, I really am looking for recommendations.
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Who Framed Roger Rabbit the CRPG
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>>544802094
There's a pretty potent demon slayer subclass for ranger that I did my last playthrough with, scratched the purge-evil itch pretty well mechanically.
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>>544802094
Reading through half of them will start to give you an understanding of the mechanics, differences between them and so on so you can make your own decision. You will have to understand how things work eventually anyhow, unless you are as retarded as you come across and play on Story or something.
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>>544802094
You have to go back
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>see the new underrail demo
>try to find info about it outside of stygs website because his site is constructed like ass
>Redditards are trying to ruin Styg by spreading info about him posting homophobic slurs in Underrail discord server
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truly fascinating
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>>544800516
>purple underwear
SEXOOOOOOO
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>>544801928
https://vocaroo.com/1dtvIfUmnKw4
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>Click on Ember
>Light sobbing
>Autistic screech
>EVERYONE ALWAYS DIES
Mind breaking Ember was supposed to be funny. This isn't funny.
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You're supposed to snuggle ember and keep her warm and safe
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>>544806613
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>>544806613
>>544806857
What choices are made to do that?
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>>544784279
She only eats crystals and demineralized water. Her favourite food is quartz
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>>544806613
>Mindbreak a schizo
>Doesn't expect... this
What were you expecting? Her just laughing?
>>544806624
>Let me just randomly mention my past life's girlfriend
Thanks Watcher
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>>544807741
Just fuck up her quest by killing everyone involved.
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>>544807746
So basically, she's kinda like...
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>>544807754
>girlfriend
Have you actually played the games? You weren't necessarily romantically involved with Iovara.

>>544806624
I will never understand that part of history, DOS2 was such an absolutely mid game, even at the time. Was it something to do with consoles maybe?
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>>544808281
I'm pretty sure the reason why there's that icon in the side because anon picked the option where he romanced Iovara in 1. I don't remember that option when I played and Tekehu WILL bring this up unless you tell him to fuck off at every bend.
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>>544807998
Don't you dare slander a pokemon as based as lairon by comparing him to fucking Yrilet.
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>>544808281
>. Was it something to do with consoles maybe?
coop and being fully voiced hard carried the game, that and the R word obviously
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>>544808281
I don't understand it either but yeah at the time and for probably up until BG3 it seemed like if a casual non-crpg fan had heard of any CRPG, it would be DOS2.
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>>544808545
Ahh that's a fair point.
I don't really see that as a weird dialogue anyhow though, Tekehu's a pervy fishman and is literally directly asking about it.
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>>544808281
I was able to play both DOS2 and BG3 with my wife for a while with only some light advice given. They're very straightforward games. She would likely have no idea how to approach either Pillars game even if they did have COOP— or any serious CRPG for that matter.
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Yrliet makes complete sense if you imagine her as Japanese
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>>544808281
DOS2 was a simpler co-op game aimed at a wider audience with some fun modern gimmicks. Pillars was a throwback to a niche genre for the small but dedicated fanbase of that genre.
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>>544808657
He's a good boy and eats rocks all day
So essentially Lairon >>>>> earlet
Realistically though, would he also be more combat effective?
Can pokemon beat chaos?
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>>544807754
I mean with the memory overlap it probably feels like that past life was you.
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Will Solasta 2 be the 2nd best looking CRPG after BG3 in terms of graphics?
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>>544787241
>But seriously, why not
you just said why
>Kek, another round of humiliation from owlkeks.
they don't make the worst NPCs and romances on accident.
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>>544812290
I don't particularly like the look of BG3
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Guns, magic or melee for my character?
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>>544812332
Regardless of style preference/character design I mean graphical quality relative to CRPGs going for a realistic look.
There is no denying that at the moment it has the best graphics in the genere
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How do you motherfuckers like being stuck in place unable to do anything? Feels like shit doesn't you fucking cunts?
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>>544812728
"good" and "best" aren't a race to photographic realism, so no, I do not agree that the graphics are the best in the genre. I find them uncompelling and I would say they're fine. I can see that they put a lot of money and effort into that aspect, but that's independent of it striking me as "fine".
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>>544813206
which would you consider the best
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Cassia makes complete sense if you imagine her as Japanese and in high school
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>>544812825
Ice body/Flame body makes you immune probably iron body too. Fuck these things in particular
>Rape
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>>544813778
I don't think there's a total order you can put on the set of CRPGs by their graphics so I think it's a dumb thing to even ask for a maximal element like that.
I find Pillars art more enjoyable though, for one.
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>>544812290
Does the UI still look like a mobile game from 15 years ago?
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>>544814473
The Solasta UI is fine. Nothing extraordinary but nothing I noticed when playing. Do you play CRPGs for their UIs?
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>temple of elemental evil remake
>no pool of radiance remake
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>>544814604
It's laughably bad, anon. It's some WoW custom hotbars shit.
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>>544814604
UI=Bad is often the only argument idiots can come up with.
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>>544814761
>toee remake
by whom?
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>Strongest UI defender still at it
Christ.
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>>544814841
>remake
Its more like a remaster, tim Cain gave some notes to some mod groups and now Toee steam edition is supposed to come out when this year ends.
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>>544814789
Do you think it's Swen, angry that some literal-whos did 5e tactics better than his giant studio?
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>>544812825
>Carnivorous Crystal
The boot is on the other foot now, isn't it, Lairon
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>>544814138
>Ice body/Flame body makes you immune
Shield of Law does as well because their hum is mind-affecting and SoL protects against those effects, the ring you get from Regill's quest also makes you immune to their bullshit for the same reason. Still, I hate those fucking things, I just sat there spamming shitty spells slowly killing them.
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At least you're spacing it out
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Rogue trader needs more items and a crafting system.
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who are the good guys of vtmb?
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>>544815554
Tremere
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>>544815554
What the fuck is this Banu Haqim shit?

Anyway what this anon said >>544815649
its always tremere.
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>>544815785
muzzies. they've got one of the better club songs tho.
https://youtu.be/fbzmpZtUQrY?si=cvpxzEWiD-GV5peZ
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>>544807741
Every time Ember does her helping people events shit on her.
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is Spellforge a CRPG
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>>544815785
Assamite methuselah woke up and was like holy shit what’s with all the muslims we’re renaming the clan.
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>>544816359
*SpellForce
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>>544815554
Heh. This is the WORLD of DARKNESS little bro
We do things a little differently around here
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>>544816660
It's just Darkness anon not Grimdarkness
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>>544797887
aow4 is better than civ, civ games got really boring after beyond earth, and even then aow:planetfall is better than beyond earth, but it is a more scuffed version of 4
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>>544816997
Beyond Earth was strangely dull. Not a true spiritual sequel to Alpha Centauri at all
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>>544817162
>Not a true spiritual sequel to Alpha Centauri at all
in what world was that even the attempt?
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Outerworlds 2 will finally kill Obsidian.
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>>544815554
It’s the salubri
That’s their entire thing
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Why do people hate the tremere? they literally wiped out the gay hippe clan and replaced them with alpha male wizards.
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Is Iconoclast supposed to be a chaotic good reddit cuck?
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>>544817785
mostly
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>>544817785
Chaotic in a sense that you're not following the rule of throwing people into woodchippers for the most minute of slights.
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>>544817785
Sometimes
Other times no
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>>544817785
Dogmatic is chaotic evil sometimes too, executing people just because you can
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>>544819331
Nuh uh, here's a big sheet of paper with stamps confirming that I can do that.
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happy halloween /crpgg/!
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>>544816130
That seems unrealistically cruel even for an evil aligned character
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>>544806613
I dunno, I thought it was pretty funny. Is there a reason it hits too close to home for you?
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What's the best archetype for psyker telepath?
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>>544817785
Most of the time it's
>HOLY SHIT THIS DUDE GAVE ME A VACATION WHAT THE FUCK
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>>544821850
Operative into executioner. Get Aftershock and uncanny site
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>>544822327
I don't think you handing out riches as bribes during the DMV line was listed as Iconoclastic, was it?
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>>544817785
The best route is dogmatic with a couple iconoclast choice along the way. For example telling the morons on Rykad to follow you or educating the dumb fucks in the Freight Line so they can actually be useful.
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>>544822534
Treating people marginally better than sticking them in the corpse raping machine for the glory of the emperor isn't really the same thing as handing out bribes
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>>544823365
I'm more referring to the fact you can give away entire universities to random people but yes, you can hand out snacks and basic human rights which confuses everyone.
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>>544698576
>Single player game that hasn't had a DLC in months has a low player count compared to the episodic game whose new episode just came out
Woah

>>544700406
Wirriam in Nippon
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>>544817785
It's the guardsmanfag alignment
If you read All Guardsman Party and actually thought it was good, Iconoclast is for you
Play a Soldier Fortress Worlder Guard Commander Master Tactician, roll up 5 merc Soldiers with las weapons, and affix le heckin bayonets
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Best og baldurs gate portrait? For me its.
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>>544824006
he looks like a ding-dong
you play the role of a ding-dong?
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>>544824006
There used to be some really nice portrait packs floating around a decade or so ago, even if they were lower resolution for today's standards. Seems impossible to find those old packs today, too much slop, not just AI, polluting any source for them.
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>>544822327
Yes or issuing clothing and medical supplies to workers on the lower decks, so they can perform their duties better, is a major iconoclastic decision. The dogmatic equivalent is redoubled beatings, as I recall.
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>>544824006
Looks like the dude from Pawn Stars
I always liked Edwin's portrait the best
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>>544824006
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Do heavy bardings remove ac bonuses from dex?
Also whats a good "class" for the hippogryph?
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>>544824271
>he doesn't have every portrait pack he's ever downloaded saved on a hard drive
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>>544824562
Yes. There’s only a few decent bardings actually worth equipping.
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>>544824562
i haven't played the actual crpg in a while but i thought there were some animal companion backgrounds that let them wear heavy barding without losing their full dex bonus, kind of like fighters
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>>544824006
This portrait is always funny to me because all the class backstories describe the bhaalspawn as a "young kid". This guy looks like he just got out of one of waterdeeps worst and most lovecraftian prisons and could beat sarevok with his bare hands.
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>>544824006
Why does the bhaalspawn look like my dad?
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>>544824006
>Here's that young kid I was telling you about
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>>544825887
BG portraits were based on devs and pornstars. Which one does your old man fall under?
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>>544825756
I mean...
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>>544825887
Oh shit, the protagonist for BG4.
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>>544826110
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>>544826310
jej
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>>544821631
Totally in character if you are worshipping Asmodeus, Rovagug, or Zon-Kuthon.
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>>544826310
>>544826520
Heh, was this before or after?
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>>544826548
Ah yes, the leader of the crusade against demons, known fiend worshipper.
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which accents make the best dollies?
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>no kim romance
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
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>>544826826
Anything non-american
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>>544826784
Lawful evil devils dont want chaotic evil devils to gain more power.
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>>544826310
BG1 portraits have more sovl than BG2
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>>544826826
French. Welsh/Scottish if I'm feeling in.
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>>544826784
>Asmodeus
>Demon
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>>544827206
>only demons are fiends now
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Other thread is still up lol
Should we use that one when this one dies
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>>544829178
No, you should report it for trolling.
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>>544829178
It would be wasteful not to, and also this thread is running a little slower due to the split.
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>>544829178
idk why not, checked the other thread and it's unironically more on-topic
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What does a noble officer overseer even do after they’ve already shat out all their buffs in a single turn
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>>544829178
>>544832216
>>544832472
sameniggy
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>>544785827
>Microsoft MBA retards have been shown the door
The middle management layoffs a while back?
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>>544829178
>>544832216
>>544832472
>p-p-please use my thread
stfu frogshit
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>dippers think they are human
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>544833154
???
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>>544832973
The guy I made up in my head who did all the bad things.
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Why does Camellia wear that fluffy blue dress? you'd think a fencer would wear something more form fitting.
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>>544832594
Plink away with their laspistol
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>>544834606
to hide her massive erection
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Why does Camellia not care about human life?
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Is there a single instance in the game where Seelah's Detect Evil actually detected evil when it mattered?
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you need to stop making 2nd threads because your power tripping with your discord friends that you can reply more and kill threads for petty shit
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>>544834840
She's an elf
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>>544834840
killing gives her a massive erection
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>>544834948
Doing any of seelahs quests is a huge hit to your crusade, she is incredibly detrimental. Good stupid
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Its retarded all the crpgs are going turn based now. Like everyone needs to wear silly little training wheels for baby's first rpg, making sure everything is good and slow so everyone makes sure they know they're clicking on 'melee attack' on 'goblin #403' and oh no better make the armor wearer do the guard move so AC can go up marginally or else a random kobold may slip a dagger passed.

Then after micromanaging the difficulty out of a simple battle everyone pats themselves on the back for a job well done because they strategize good, when even a child could navigate the "challenge" of a turn based game when you slow things down that far.

There's a reason competitive Chess has a clock timer for turns, intelligence has to do with how long it takes a retard to arrive at an answer.
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>why aren't more rpgs rtwp like diablo 3 :(
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>>544835246
Wrong interpretation, that's not a crpg.
Try again.
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>>544834959
>>544832216
>>544832472

lol froggie woggie go fuck yourself loser, we're gonna make a new new thread and every one is going to that one. just shut up and realize only coord members are allowed to bake threads
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>>544835162
We'll go back to chrono trigger/ff7 timed gauges soon it's a cycle
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>>544835162
XCOMlikes (Rogue Trader, DOS) > RTWP > Turn cringe
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>>544835162
Learn to accept the BG3 victory. Its here to stay, everyone prefers turn based.
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>>544835162
I hate faggots like this more than babby mode newfags
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RTwP sissy having a melty
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Remember the days when turn based = old and busted they will come back some day
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Go play an RTS but only play the hero missions
There you go, thats RTwP
Now go there, and stay there, in your dead genre
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>>544835512
>rogue trader
>xcomlike
in the same way ranjit and Thaddeus are human, maybe
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>>544836118
All RTS games feel like this now, I miss when they were like Command and Conquer and you built endless little units to blob at an enemy base instead of levelling up some heroes and elite units like its some pseudo RPG.
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is spellforce 3 an crpg? it had an elf humiliation ritual
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>>544836216
In what way ISN'T it an Xcomlike?
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I'd argue Rogue Trader isn't a crpg because you're so pigeonholed into a linear Von Valencius storyline. The only way you can get anything to really change is to go hard into being a heretic and even then it feels forced.
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>>544836251
Warcraft 3 started the rot
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>>544836484
That's dumb, there's plenty of branch paths mid-chapter splitting paths even if they tend to converge at the end of the chapter
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>>544836484
I was gonna make a joke but you're sort of right actually. There aren't many side quests that are totally unrelated to the main Von Valancius thing
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>>544836251
my hero tanya...
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>>544836976
>hear her laughter and a bunch of attack dogs
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>dippers
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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It’s not really a crpg if you can’t decide to settle down on a farm and play through an entire harvest moon mini game instead
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>>544836484
>>544836968
>The game with multiple storylines isn't a CRPG because it doesn't have enough storylines
>The game with tons of sidequests isn't a CRPG because the sidequests aren't lolsorandumb enough
BG3 brainrot
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Turn based movement outside of combat
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is Rune Factory 4 a CRPG?
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>>544837597
I wish Harvest Moon had inspired a better game than the hipster-shit Stardew Valley
>>
vancian melee
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>>544838204
Like you forget how to swing your sword after doing so 3 times, until you get a full rest? What would be the cantrips of this system?
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crpg = cunny roleplaying game
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>>544837980
rune factory is okay
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>>544838337
It looks like some jrpg vtuber thing
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>>544838337
any other similar games?
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>>544838879
You have to be 18 to use this website
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>>544839051
Tales of the Shire: Heckin Wholesome POC Edition
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>>544839051
I wish
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>>544839368
What happened here? Middle Earth is meant to be mythological england.
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>>544839368
Need brown hobbit pussy
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>>544839641
its contemporary england now
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>dipping
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAGA
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Where is the hyborea crpg?
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>>544839641
no it isn't
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>>544839641
Modern Londoners got their filth-encrusted claws on it and ruined the whole thing

Even ignoring the vomit-inducing artstyle and all the darkies, there's basically nothing to do and literally no combat in at all. Which is retarded, because it's well established that the Hobbits know how to and have had to fight many, MANY times, and the book version of LotR even had them go through a whole civil war
It's like if Animal Crossing had 90% of the content ripped out of it and the setting of the Shire had all the soul sucked out and all the edges sanded down to make it gay and boring

The point of the Shire was never that it was a perfect idyllic fantasy paradise with no troubles ever, the Shire was only idyllic because the Hobbits fought to keep it that way, it had to be actively defend against and taken back from Saruman and the other evils of Middle Earth, and even when it was defended it still had its own problems and difficulties that its people had to face even if those were as mundane as the Sackville-Baggins stealing silverware
The game doesn't have any of that, in the game the Shire is just an UwU comfy accepting safe space for everyone where nothing bad happens, ever

I'd go so far as to say the game ACTIVELY UNDERMINES the point Tolkien was trying to make with The Shire
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Outer Worlds 2 had a much bigger budget than the first game, which Tim Cain revealed was a little less than 35 million. A core team of 80, three years in development. Not counting the contractors, TOW's 2 core team seems to be in the the ballpark of 150-200 people and it was in development for six years. Nine-digit budget at the least, Obsidian's biggest game ever.
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>>544840569
>I had a mind to make a body of more or less connected legend, ranging from the large and cosmogonic, to the level of romantic fairy-story – the larger founded on the lesser in contact with the earth, the lesser drawing splendour from the vast backcloths – which I could dedicate simply to: to England; to my country
-Tolkien letter 131
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>>544838268
You get tired and need a rest
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Paladin should be an exemplar class again, if your stats aren't high enough you can't be one.
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>>544829178
Yes
We're not gonna be faggots and have two generals up
If Owlsloppers are butthurt by OP image that's their problem
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>discord fags begging everyone to use their thread
pathetic
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Why didn't Tolkien based his world off of somewhere cool like France or Canada?
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>>544842809
Tolkien's memories of France were very likely bleak and perhaps inspired Mordor?
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Why didn't Tolkien base his world on somewhere important like 21st century California?
Was he stupid?
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>>544842809
>Base Middle Earth on the place Tolkien watched his friends die
Its honestly surprising there isn't more trauma baggage written into the Lord of the Rings considering the trench meatgrinder he fought in.
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Vancian conversation
After a number of exchanges dependent on your charisma, you run out of conversation topics and have to leave before it gets awkward.
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>>544842809
>Canada
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back playing RT, and yes im high af
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who else is high af right now?
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>>544698576
Owlcat would sell more games if they didn't have 14 DLCs that increase the price up to 130€. I think it's one of those games thaz get pirated a lot because of it.
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>>544844818
Is there good dialogue/story in this? I only ever see combat screenshots.
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>>544844920
Never buy Owlcat DLCs except the Kibellah one and maybe the tiefling twins one if its on sale. Every other DLC they've ever released is entirely skippable and boring.
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>>544708912
> cipher
> 2 big blunderbusses
Yeah, it's gaming time
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>>544710058
How are you at 200 dogmatic at level 15?? I'm like 26 and only got 160 or something. Do you just go murder hobo on every peasant?
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>>544844951
The way I describe is how actual tabletop games work. There's a bit of neat story and things, but mostly you're going to the dungeon to kill the bad guy. It doesn't try to be much more than that, though I found the story that was there to have a couple stand-out moments.
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Is solasta 2 going to be capped at level 16 to? I want capstone abilities.
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You don't need dark heresy...
Come home...
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>>544845864
>Tech Priests (boring) vs Necrons (boring)
Let me know when they do a slutty sisters of battle vs sadistic deldars thing
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>>544846040
Yeah this. I don't see why some guys get so gassed up over cogs.
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>>544846232
They're fine as sidekicks, like in RT with Pasqal, or as a faction to explore along the way. There's not enough there to support them being the centerpiece though.
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Can't Yrliet just get a new soulstone? Argenta disappears for days while the narrative fast forwards her personal quest before she shits out power armor and rejoins the team, just have Yrliet go on a little vacation and come back attuned to a new gem.
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>>544846852
soulstone machine broke
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>>544846885
Can't go back to Janus and get a new one?
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>>544816371
> currently the strongest active being in the vampire scene, even above vasilisa in power
Mashallah brother
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>>544846960
She does.
See, she portrait has a new one in the ending slides.
If you ask her she explains that it's a bit of a process to get a new one, (need to get attuned or some shit) but it can be done.
I think the idea is that at first she's all miserable because the got disowned by the collective eldar ancestors for being a gross mon-keigh-fucker
But she cheers up by the end of the game
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>>544846852
>Argenta disappears for days while the narrative fast forwards her personal quest before she shits out power armor and rejoins the team
This was so fuckin dumb
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>>544847371
She doesn't fuck any monkeighs though.

Also I think that image is probably just an Owlcat error.
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how many years would it take for yrliet to let elantach touch her hand
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>>544847460
Everything after Comorragh is super phoned in.
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>>544816371
I can only imagine the look of disgust on his face
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>>544847514
Well figuratively if not literally.
The ancestors are explicitly horrified at how important you are to her and try to make her forget you, which she resists and precipitates the whole thing
As for the image, she is clearly looking for STONES plural. Part of the job of an outcast is collecting STONES of fallen eldar and returning them to the proper craftworld. She does this in the smuggler's den.
And at the end of her romance she says that yeah of course I can get a new spirit stone, it's fine. So it's not implied to be a death sentence.
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>>544847676
She says that and then happily trots along to fight a c'tan shard like its no real risk to do that without her spirit stone, though
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>>544847792
I think that's just gameplay
You can point it out to her
>you know if you come with me to Epitaph and get killed Slaanesh will eat you LOL
and she shivers with fear. And apparently she's scared during every battle
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>>544847551
One cycle
How long is a cycle? Nobody knows.
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>>544848115
I should've paid more attention to these.

Wait do you just have all these Yrliet references saved and on hand?
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>>544848115
>expecting me to read AND separate story from gameplay
Asking too much
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>>544848261
I save all my screenshots with helpful names so they're easy to search for. For example, what is Cassia's full name
>Cassia name
and there we go
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>>544848495
Do you have the funny one where Cassia has an outburst at the mutants in the lowest decks of the ship?
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>>544841160
that's just a dedication
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>>544849092
NTA but this kind of dedication meant something back then. Today you might think a dedication is just some polite words here or there written out of obligation, because that's the nature of the degradation of society and civilization, especially in superficial places.

Tolkien wrote with meaning and that's why his books are foundational to all western fantasy today. Whether you're bored of Tolkienesque fantasy or not, his work is the definition of soul.
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>>544849092
The english mythology thing is legit. Tolkien also would've detested the losers enamoured with his work as an allegory for le master race shit though.
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Kibbers
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Am I allowed to dip titan fighter because its cool?
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>>544849012
No I didn't take her with me down there. I thought it might prove injurious to her health. Have this bathtime one instead.
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>>544850324
If you do, you didn't beat the game.
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>>544697750
>>544697750
>>544697750
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begging, like a DOG
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blud really spent halloween bumping his thread
smfh carpiggers
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Are we going to wait until page 10 before making a new thread?
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you lost, discord tranny



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