Post Halloween Fanart Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2025-update.87198/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlock: >>544694718
Mina and mina players should HANG!!!!!!
>"n1">one minute later calls me a scripter for parrying their light melee
>>544826727What N1 is means?
>>544826727>one minute later calls me a scripter for parrying their light meleeIs there a reason why you're not showing us that or does it actually expose you?
>>544826907nice one
InhouselockedSP26G
>>544826995I didn't clip it at the time. Here's their perspective. Was it called for?
>>544827563sort of yeah but definitely reactable most calico melee after slash cause they're greedy
>>544827563literally not reactable, it was obviously a read
The only tierlist that matters
Why is Paige so fun, bros?
>>544827563this the same guy who loses to melee ivy when up 20k souls!?
>>544827902her kit is braindead
>>544827960playing against melee with 100+ ping is literally unfair and dishonest
>>544827960>melee ivyThe fuck? her melee scaling is dogshit and stone form whiffs the free h-melee windows half the time
>>544828343just meme build in the dlg lobby custom game
Just got first message banned from a stream for saying "Deserved for Mina" after they lostWorth
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!!
>>544827563>doesn't post his own POV because it makes it look even more sus
>>544827794if he sees the calico around the corner by altering his camera he could react but he didnt show us his POV
>>544827902Because you don't have the mental capacity to play a real hero
>love playing Yamato>everyone and their dog will try to play her once her model is updated
>>544829330i mean it's not possible to react to light melees, even a parry script can't do thathe can read/predict the light melee because calicos are all mouthbreathing retards who always try to sneak in a l-melee after using their slash
>>544829554yes but he's not JUST light meleeing, he slashed first. The slash IS reactable and gives you time to predict the combo of light melee after
how do I enhance this mo build. before you laugh it has a 100% winrate so far
>>544829238>>544829330>his POVI mean I obviously just parried because calico's melee after slash and she slashed me
>>544829842yeah man that's uh what i said
3 games in a row i'm the only well performing player on my team and everyone else feeds. what am I supposed to do? this game feels like gambling
>>544829946I actually didnt finish reading your post
>>544829884if it has 100% winrate why would you enhance? it?
Needfully redeem the invitation code sir3/12SP26G
>>544830021 it happens
>>544829884where your warp stone dumbask
>>544829943>doesn't even look at the calicohm still pretty sus
>>544829884Is magic carpet to catch people and ult them? You should trade that with warp stone if so, it's cheapter and gives you better stats.
>>544829943yeah this looks sus but no audio, i would be stroking my chin (and maybe my shaft) wondering
>>544829884>early game>3 t3 and 1 t4 item
>>544829943every time i see a webm of this guy i think it's a Demoman model swap
>>544830797Me with Soldier and Lycanthrope Dota 2
>>544829884You have a separate category for counter/resistance items that you intentionally left out, right?
>>544827902I love Paige's hairy logcutter so fucking much bros.
>>544830331Warp stone literally gives no stats and carpet is a core mo item that lets you gank anyone anywhere
> dump_hero_namesHero Technical name dump hero_infernohero_gigawatthero_hornethero_ghosthero_atlashero_wraithhero_forgehero_chronohero_dynamohero_kelvinhero_hazehero_astrohero_bebophero_nanohero_orionhero_krillhero_shivhero_tenguhero_kalihero_wardenhero_yamatohero_lashhero_viscoushero_gunslingerhero_yakuzahero_genericpersonhero_tokamakhero_wreckerhero_rutgerhero_synthhero_thumperhero_miragehero_slorkhero_cadencehero_targetdummyhero_bomberhero_shieldguyhero_viperhero_vandalhero_magicianhero_trapperhero_operativehero_vampirebathero_drifterhero_desolatorhero_rosettahero_priesthero_frankhero_fencerhero_tvspirithero_incubushero_succubushero_bookwormhero_bohohero_doormanhero_mountaineerhero_skyrunnerhero_swanhero_sargehero_punkgoathero_warden2hero_invoker1hero_invoker2hero_gravediggerhero_werewolfhero_druidhero_grafhero_firefighterhero_gunslinger2hero_fortunahero_gnomehero_piratehero_vesselhero_wrecker2hero_cobainhero_doughboy
>>544831572NTA but>40% bullet resist>mobility>no stats>Magic Carpet>isn't Phantom Strike despite being the same cost
>>544831726>invokerdear god if they manage to add a mage character to this game with 9 spells that would be wild
>>544831726>hero_doughboythis will either be a gigakino baker or some lame michellin man looking slob
Spooky in-house NOW!!!SP26GSP26GSP26G
>>544831726>GravediggerRelease him now
>>544831859I thought it was the scrapped hero concept for Dynamo when they first started moving their designs to Deadlock from Neon Prime
>>544831859doughboy is slang for an American soldier, dummy
>>544831726>cobain
>>544831942that hero name wasn't in the dumps before, besides dynamo would keep the old internal name (like how ivy is still tengu internally)>>544831961didn't know that, not americanoh well, that's still good though
>>544831887sorry bros but i'm too busy doing my pre-NNN goonsesh tonight
>>544832221How about you just don't do that and play with us instead? :)
>>544831572Your 2 is a perfect gank tool already, if you're gonna pay 6400 souls in one go you may as well get phantom strike that allows you to snatch people from the sky.
>>544832368Wanna help?
>>544831726>He's in
>>544833332>his patron wish is to kill rubick
a 30 minute game isnt a stomp, its healthy game length to queue again for more matches. anyone who says 40+ minutes is "Normal" are mental and only enjoy dragging the game to fill every slot with 6.5k items (these people follow builds mindlessly that round down to 70k fuckin SOULS in total)
>>544833332What if invoker use the magic to bring himself to deadlock world... woah.. dota 2 anime kind of did the whole multiverse shit and then there's marci being added into the base game from that universe too...................... nigger
I will have to tap out of inhouse sorry lads. Expected more people to be on when it's already this late
>be newfag>lurk here>see people say that Haze players are retards>play against some Haze clearly tryharding in quickmatch>my Doorman teammate is clearly a lot better and a much bigger threat than me>Haze is so desperate to kill me that he suicides to get me while my Doorman kills him and his lanemate>Haze proceeds to spend the rest of the match chasing me down and solo ulting me on cooldown before dying to my team and losing every team fight>he does it yet again, dies, blames matchmaking in all chat>ragequitsSo that's what you guys mean...
>>544834253And mina too.But that's a different kind of retard.How can someone with the strongest escape skill ever still feed & die the most in the game?How?
>>544831726>hero_dynamowas valve so ashamed of neon prime's Sumo they even wiped his name from dynamo's files? kek
>>544831726>hero_rosettaCOULD IT BE
>>544834559I feel like that may have simply been Sumo's name outright
>>544831726>source: chatgpt
>>544831726>hero_succubus>hero_incubusboner time
>>544831726>hero_tokamakrussian constructivist atompunk hero will be kino as fuck
>>544835237ARE YOU READY TO RUBBLE
>>544831726>hero_incubusGross
>>544831726>no ninja hero with basic abilities being mudraswe are 5 years out arent we
https://tracklock.gg/players/112651201how did this guy hide his profile, I wanted to see his stats cause he's beyond retarded
>>544825905My wife is so spooky...
>>544836180DING DING DING DING"I've got a quarry to settle."
Spooky in-house NOW!!!SP26GSP26GSP26G4/12
>>544836180I can hear this line so clearly I used to spam it when roaming>>544835237Bring back tiny airlines please valve I want to toss my teammates to their death. Doorman cart is not funny enough
Having both trance and burst might be genuis.
>>544836907he works on statlocker. he seems to play M1 carries and then do next to nothing
HALLOWEEN INHOUSES 5/12 SP26GSP26GSP26G
>>544837580He was 0-8 on wraith, didnt come to help boss so the enemy stole it (didnt get walker while we did it either), then finally got caught out right as the second mid boss came upjust the absolute worst kind of retard to get on your team
>tfw no cute trans gf to play Deadlock withLife is unfair bros
>>544838239>the texture of those legsI'm good, thanks
>>544838239thank god, paige is shit
Dont look up the deadlock tournament sponsor Trolli's ties to israel
>>544838239>cuteEhhhhhh
ONLY 4 MORE SLOTS for InhousesSP26GSP26GSP26G
It says on Lash's Ground Strike that the damage grows slower after 25m. What is the math on that? Does it mean that it grows like 50% of that per meter or does anyone have the numbers on that?
why would anyone ever go for mystic shot instead of opening rounds?
>>544838239That's a woman, though.
>>544838774mystic is (was?) better in lane, but yeah I usually go opening cause having to hold shots and not prefire is cringe
>>544838840>mystic is (was?) better in lanehow so? you get 1 (one) chance to hit a shot with it, while Opening Rounds gives you 40% damage for free as long as the enemy is close to full health and it gives the same amount of spirit power as Mystic
>>544839172mystic shot ignores damage fall off first off
When will Valve add a rabbit hero to deadlock?
They should do a rank reset again I want to be lower
>>544839370>that completely incongruous facesloppa
3 more for inhouseSP26GSP26GSP26G
3 more gamers required SP26GSP26GSP26G
>>544839601It has an artist tag. Slop is more likely to have a perfect face than actual artists nowadays
>>544839370sinclair
>>544839267how much mileage can you feasibly get out of that in lane when the damage it does depends on your spirit power?
>Ritualist rank up to Emissary game>Throw me into Oracle 3 match>A useless pocket that's too noob>A useless paradox that only farm & never do anythingThe matchmaking sucks so fucking hard.
>>544839729your damage of opening rounds depends on your gun damage too, it was nerfed btw so I dont know the answer but before the nerf it was like 3x as good as opening rounds (for lane).
>>544839682now its 6 required good job inhouse
inhousefaggots i will leave the room but do not fret: i am only fucking around in the main menu and will return
>>544839716That's a bickering couple hero, not a rabbit hero.
>>544839601bro thats how weeb artists draw
the counterplay to infernus is ending the game before his 12-minute atomic hypercarry lategame powerspike is online, simple as.
What are some advanced puddle punch tricks I should be using?
6 more for the inhouse only 6 more for the inhouseSP26GSP26GSP26G
>>544835237i never played dota but every clip of this guy makes me think he's really neat
>>544835852sorry broski, tokamak is seven
>>544841445i will be taking my own life shortly
Why is Kelvin allowed to do literally everything?
might've been a mistake to host the inhouse on american hours when they are the only country in the world that actually celebrates halloween lads
>>544842287Kelvin is such a big jerk.Using ult and failing to kill the enemy when I could have finish the enemy with no problem.I hate Kelvin. And any other heroes that can cockblock the team.
>>544842316It was worth a shot. Don't think it's happening fellas
>>544842316sad to say the rest of the world is unsoulful
To that one anon from the inhouse that i coincidentally queued againstGG :)
The gun buff update saved this game
why do geistoids play spirit max if gun is so much better? do they just not trust their aim or what
What roles are there in this game?Tank > just be at the frontline to tank damage and take focus from the enemies so your team can do their stuffsDmg output > your job is to output as much damage as possible to wear down the enemies. Doesn't matter who you shoot, just keep dealing damageAssasin > your job is to finish off the enemies, so you need to prioritise which enemy you want to aim and not just shooting the first target in sightStatus effects support > you will be buying mostly things that cc the enemies or annoy them with debuffsDps support > not that you're dealing dps, but you want to keep your main dps alive for as long as possibleAny other roles are there in the game?Also, they are not mutually exclusive, so somebody can adopt multiple roles in different weightage.
>>544843341Is george droyd from the inhouses? I played with him today
>>544844710You've got DPS, DPS tank, DPS supportThere's no character that does zero DPS even on a support build. They just do less than M1
>russians on team>cheater on enemy teamits like clockwork
>>544844902so russians on both teams?
>>544837351is drifter good now?
>>544844710bruiser brooler: early mid game space takerdamage brooler: early early mid game damage. usually spirit burstsurvival support: heals and savesutility support: counter items and CChard carry: doesn't buy anything to help with the mid game and spikes late game to close it out
>>544845039Yeah. Russians really need a containment server
>>544844675the character kind of loses its entire gimmick if you never use the abilities, its why gun pocket is so supremely retarded and only played by people in shitlow.
>>544844710>>544845154initiator: lash,drifter,abrams,wraith,haze etc
Τhe black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>544845603How is haze and drifter an initiator?Unless you mean they start the fight and then fuck off still count as initiating.
>>544845970>multi person blind>sleep daggerretardo
>Enemy is shooting/running away/dashing away/has hpLE ALCHEMICAL FLASK
YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CANT ESCAPE THE KEK CAGE
veil walker warp stone billythink about it
>play round>ivy>I have somehow managed to get one (1) kill by the midgame which is not at all impressive>"at least we're not losing" I thought to myself>"at least I have some money, that will help me win the game" I thought to myself>check scoreboard>yamato on my team has died a total of eleven (11) times by the ~20 minute markAm I missing something or is chasing after some kills in exchange for dying a silly idea.
>check the worst shitter ive seen all day on my team >they always have like a 54% winrate. how do these dogshit players do it?
>>544847284Don't know how shitty he was but my stats vary wildly depending on if I am playing on a day off or just got home from a miserable shift, never go double digits deaths but I have a weaker performance.
If state mandated losses were a thingThis would be it
>>544847284consistency and specialized skill setsit's easier to climb if you're consistent and able to play the game no matter how it goesin lower ranks you'll get people who are only good if the game is going well, or are only good on teams that brool or are passive. so they can climb for a bit depending on if the game state or match maker leans into their skill setand everyone has good days or shit days
>>544827902paige wouldn't approve of you slopping her
how come anytime i see a match stat with the rank showing its never above oracle
>>544846348I thought about it. It's fucking terribleJust buy Lifestrike and Hunter's and go kill people
do you guys think Vyper makes poisoned drinks by spitting in them?
>>544838239looks like a man
>>544849231100%, she even has dialog about it
>>544850002icefrog will never recover
>gave away a cumulative 4.3k souls overall to the enemy team in one game
>>544848853Everyone in this general is a fucking shitter, anon.Average inhouse rank is emissary.
>>544850462im oracle 5 howeverthoughbeit
>Deadlock - Update Queuedso what was it?
>>544850771Sex update
>>544850771not all changes are logged.
Nothing pisses me off more than seeing a guy i tortured in lane come back with as much souls as i do despite being 0-9.How do they do? Do winning fights and getting picks matter that little before 20 mins?
>>544850896>kill someone in lane>get 200 soulshmm I wonder how he caught up to that huge gap.
>>544850896>How do they do?if you catch a few waves in a lane by yourself you can make up literally any soul deficit
>>544850896hidden comeback mechanic of lanes being safer to farm after losing objectives.
i am phantom 4 and sickened to be associated with you faggots
>made it to Alchemist 1>tfw I dont feel at all I belong to my rank; I feel Im way more of a shitterI just do ok in my games but Im not the main impact for the victory.
>>544851759you have entirely too high of an opinion of alchemist
>>544851832I just got 90 hours and still not super familiar with the movement. I just feel I should be at the lower of the low.
Is Holliday high skill ceiling. I'm trying to learn her and it's rough
how fast do smurfs calibrate? Does it know based on the computer as well? I'm oracle 1 and made a smurf to help ease some of my newer friends get associated with the game, then after 7 games got ranked oracle 1 again. Was it because I was raping with Sinclair?
>>544852238She's one of the harder heroes to play because of high cooldowns and high risk ultimate. Her ultimate is practically a Bebop hook on a 2 minute cooldown.
>one half the heroes in this game are ungodly broken >the other half are pathetically nerfed to shitim so sick of doing nothing but infernus and haze reps just to win, theres 0 variety to picking because half the picks are guaranteed losses
>>544852595That weak half is actually good if you play with a competent duo that will cover your hero's flaws. But the side of heroes that are already strong in solo queue all become retardedly overpowered in a duo. That's the real issue
>>544852254it is entirely based on your actual skill. my friend made an alt, in 10 games was placed eternus 1. another did the same and got put in ascendant. this is pre-rank shuffle and they obviously retained it afterwards. being oracle now is just what old ritualist was. you are mid at this game. simple as that.
>>544852764Hell yeah, we love mediocrity.
>>544852254you'll get boosted fast but also drop fast when you start losing.
>>544852764erm achtully
>>544852704>That weak half is actually good if you play with a competent duo that will cover your hero's flaws.Why bother when the better half has no flaws?
>>544852254apparently the rank is also influenced by the rank of the account that sends the invite, they probably realize its almost exclusively for smurfs now so they try to expedite their return to their elo
>>544853516Correct. Deadlock feels like ass when your main isn't High A or S tier.
What are the requirements for a game to not be scored? (the Green notification)
>>544853495i don't get what point you're trying to make, the lower your rank is now in current system is the closer you were to actual seeker 1 shittery pre-rank changes. anything below oracle and you're practically playing in bot matches.
>>544850996He was 0-9 and i was 7-0, aight i wasn't taking every camp and box in sights, but still, i didn't miss any wave.
>>544853520this sounds made up
>>544854214>hmm this account that has a 95% wr and got sent an invite from an eternus account might not be a new player...makes sense to me, its a pretty elegant soultion to eternus faggots constantly making smurfs as well, since new players will be identified by their wr pretty quickly
>>544853962>being oracle now is just what old ritualist was. you are mid at this gamemid is emissary 3, 2 ranks lower than oracle. hope this helps anon!
>Oracle 6 is top 18% Holy dogshit
>phantom lobby is filled with way worse than oracle could ever dream ofgood nigger game gabenlove 1v3ing the entire lane for 4 minutes while all 5 teammates die to 3 people
I don't want to make any excuses and shift blame, but what am i supposed to do when my lane partner dash jump into a 1v2 right after respawning when we're 2k souls behind because he did that three times in a row?
>>544854489except that emissary pre-shuffle was what, alchemist? arcanist? the average person was ritualist/emissary. it used to be archon. the rank itself changes, but true mid is Oracle. Anything below it and it's shitter rank, any counter to this is extreme cope.
>>544854807Give up on the lane, sack the guardian and try to take your camps before they do.
>>544854920It's always funny to see where people try to draw lines to justify their opinions as holding the most weight.
I demoted to Archon V today, so now it'll be the new bar to be able to talk about the game.Congrats to all the anon that can now join the discussion.
I smurfed my way to low Ascendant as Infernus and Abrams with my sissy Paige duo so this is the minimum rank required to talk about the game.
mercurial magnum billythink about it
The concept of the worst Phantom not holding more weight than the best Archon in game opinions is actually kind of funny, I'm glad you guys are at the ranks you're at.
Bloodstone BKB BillyThink about it
>>544855620>duoyou didnt reach anything
>>544854807Should have jumped in with him when he did the first time you coward. Probably would've killed them on repeatThe best strategy you can learn is how to play around aggressive players. They're the ones that snowball the fuck out of lanes or feed on repeat, but if you don't play around them, it's the feeding thing without fail
>>544855620how dare you you inflated bitch.
>>544855953Don't pretend like this is always the case without fail. More often than not people don't know match-ups or item diffs, sometimes they don't even have wave prio and lose 100hp to minions alone.
>>544856070It doesn't matter. When you get the aggressive retards, your interaction is the 'only' thing that'll stop them from feeding. Sitting back and watching it happen is basically asking to be cuckedLearn to int properly. It's way better to have an aggro teammate you can adapt to than a passive teammate who incapable of adapting to you
>>544856271You are a feeding retard telling yourself this to tell better about yourself.
>>544856271>watches you make terrible calls and feed like a retard>holds the loss and wins the next game because you're not in itcan't win em all
You all lied to me.You said people use mics in higher ranks. Now I'm in Oracle lobbies and nobody fucking talks. By the time I hit Ascendant people won't even be using text chat, will they? Why are people so fucking SHY bitch ass introverts
>>544856434>oracle>higher rankserm... I only play in ascendant and eternus lobbies...
>>544856434Voice chat is generally dying out in a lot of games. The young folks now are so fully antisocial they just feel intense discomfort talking on mic with randoms. They lack the social skills for it.
>>544856434>oracle>highNot high enough pal, if you're not Eternus 999 you're dogshit pisslow rank.
>>544856487You know that Anime team that went 39-1 K-D against Melee Creeps? They're all Eternus 6. So what do ranks even matter, eh?
>>544856345I actually win my lanes. What I told you was objectively true no matter how much of a contrarian faggot you areTell me, genuinely, what good will it do to watch a feeding player run it down and sit there waiting for the inevitable outcome? You at least have a chance to influence whether they feed if you play with them. If you sit back clicking minions and grabbing boxes while they do it, not even trying to get them to play the lane the way you want, then you get what you deserveAggressive players win lanes. Passive players survive them. The former is what goes up in elo; even the most dogshit aggressive players learn something. Passive players get hardstuck when they get to the elo where the only thing that exists are aggressive brawling. Something you'll notice that every single high level player is doing constantly in lane. No one just sits back for 2 minutes>>544856382>watches you sit in the cuck chair every single lane, wondering why you're losing as your teammate runs in and you spend all game crying about himlollmaoSelf-fulfilling prophecy
>>544856557so true bro
>>544856434players treat the game like a 1v11 game against bots because they think their skills are all that matters. if they're good then they get rewarded with this and climb
I dont understand how a passive player thinks they know matchups in the first place, if you also play like a complete bitch how do you know any matchups
>>544856671This, that's why you'll see people use their mic for flaming but never for callouts.Lots of people will actually feel offended if you use your mic, especially if you're not popping off, they see you more as an opponent than a teammate.
>>544856782Passive players don't know matchups. That's the point. They get locked in shitlow because the enemy does know how to lane whereas all they know is how to sit under tower and then lose their tower at 6 minutes every game
>just called my infernus a nigger at full volume in my college dorms with paper-thin walls at 4 am>got three thuds on walls from separate directions in responsemfw
>>544856890hey song of silk
>>544856890Will you suffer repercussions for this or no
>>544856923who? sorry, im not familiar with inhouse avatarfag drama
>calico is a 25x better assassin than drifter>her gun is also better earlyjust rework drifter. the character is fucking terrible
>>544857000Not unless I get reported.Even if I do, I'll just deny it.The burden of proof is on them.I probably can't use the kitchen for a while though.
>>544857008>there is another...
>>544856782>>544856819You have to limit test to know when buying Healing Rite + Spirit Shielding is actually the correct play. The niggers that have been doing it their entire career are genuinely fucking worthlessI fucking hate cowards. While I'm not encouraging it, dying early is sometimes the correct play because you're doing it while there's no respawn time and wave tempo is as simple as letting a wave die to your walker. The funniest shit in the world is when your teammate dies while the enemy barely lives and 6 seconds later they come flying back to lane on the zip, double jump to the enemy walker without ever touching the ground, kill them because they didn't go back, and you immediately take tower because the wave was pushing back since they were too afraid to step up to control the wave with the 20% hp they had remaining after the previous fight
>>544856890just say you had a girl over into raceplay
>another nigger lobby with worthless faggots who shouldnt even be at this rankwhats the point
>>544857671Right!The "walker" is because she's 80 years old and "Abrams is raping" is my pet name. She's also into rape.
>>544857946There genuinely isnt. I only queue up to torture myself.
Limit testing in lane is rushing Mina in a straight line with Wraith.
Just had a great game guys! Went 11/0!
>>544858192Assfaggots is literally just niggers spics portugeese turks and kryllics and none of them talk nor do they do anythingliterally doesnt matter if you stomp your lane, some nigger gank hero arrives and your teammate that arrives is a 0 item 1 hp retard whos just there for steal souls
>>544858316found the useless cunt on ivy throwing a kudzu and hoping to win by hitting npcs for 30 minutes
>>544857671no shot anyone is going to believe that fat retard pulled anyone
>>544858523uh oh shitter caught with his hand in the cookie jar!
>>544858345Cool
>>544858570but youre worse at everything so how am i the shitter, when i poo in ur mouth...
Doorman, Holiday and Mina are legit unbeatable in lane.I don't even bother with them, i just avoid trades for the entirety of lanes and focus on waiting for someone to gank them.
>>544858595Im actually better at everything than you though...
>>544858627>nigga cant even bridge to rail and he pretends he's a gamerlmao
I cant do well with Drifter>shitty gun>not tanky at all for someone who wants to be close>only works against a lone targets, people wise up too quick>terrible laner, unless people jump at you>unless fed he's just fodder in teamfightsSo what's the catch? How the fuck you do well with this guy?
>>544858890theres no catch bro, hes just a shitty design
>>544858890You play him as a support ult bot or you just stick to low rank solo queue.
>>544858602Bitch mentality. Buy Spirit Shield and run at them
>>544858890I think the worst part about Drifter is how the game classifies him as a frontliner Basically you're fucked at the draft. You're the worst hero and instead of replacing one of the less impacftul characters you take the role of one of the most important
>>544859110>Buy spirit shielding against Mina>She proc love bite, take +200 dmg, proc the barrier>I rush in and attempt to trade>She presses 2, the barrier expire and all i got for eating a bunch of damage is a bit more pressure on the wave ( She'll still clean ours in a second )And that's assuming she doesn't have her ult.
>>544859456I play drifter and have an abrams or billy on my team in most gamesunless matchmaking is trying to place 2 on each team both games?
>>544859479yepwelcome to "skill" based vidya
>>544859479Yeah but now she's a Mina with nothing up and you 'only' lost 20 - 30% hp who has low hp. Land literally anything and next time Spirit Shielding is up she's dead if you're a gamer
>>544859479Honestly this is my experience laning against anyone when I buy spirit shielding. It's just not an answer for lane bullies the way reactive is.
>>544859693Next time spirit shielding is up she'll have all her cooldown back and it's back to square 1.Spirit shielding only use against her is preventing her from finishing you off with Rake or another lovebite stack.
>>544859789It allows you engage further. It stops bullets too. You're gonna take damage regardless but it still a guaranteed 300 hp every 30 seconds
what would the meta look like if you could freely stack items so long as you had slots?
>>544859693shes mina so you instantly lost unless you can one shot her by looking at hershe's hitscan youre not. her model is a stick yours is not
>>544860153I buy 8 Hunter's Auras and you die in 1 hit
>>544859978>>544860187She has the lowest hp and the game and you just gave yourself double hers via shieldDo you just ignore her the entire lane so she's at full hp the entire time, and just accept your death? Early damage items cannot match Spirit Shielding in a direct trade. You can out stat her regardless of how annoying she is. The only difficult part of the Mina matchup is making her waste her escape. Afterwards just rape her bro
>>544860218eat 4 curses in a row! oh, you want to melee me? i also have 3 rebuttals and can mash parry forever
which heroes are the most teamfight/support-centric? i'm bad at knowing when i can farm sidelanes or jungle, i just wanna follow somebody around and protect them
>>544860153>melee charge (x7)>veil walker>instakill someone at 15k on drifter
>>544860467If you have the money for 4 curses, I'm buying 2 UnstoppablesFuck you nigger I walk at you
>>544860357>do u ignore hershe doesnt ignore you, and that's all that matters you fucking autistic nigger
>>544860510you can't catch me I sold 2 of my curses for 2 fleetfoots
>>544860357Again, a non retarded Mina will be behind her guardian and be at most cleaning your wave in and out of cover before you can say "Archon".That's also ignoring the fact she have easy sustain with Rake, so any life advantage you get over her will fade extremely quickly.
>>544860514>nooo I just sit there losing all my hp to nothing while doing nothing back because she's so oppressive :(Archon momentShe wins death by a thousand cuts for the first 8 minutes. You win off a single trade when her dash is down, which happens when you don't play like a bitch. Play better
>>544860628>she's able to constantly rape you and harass you>but also she's permanently behind her walkerSo are you permanently pushing and walking into her kill range or is she actually doing something that might be a threatPick one retard. Mina is annoying as fuck when she has items. She's a minor annoyance in lane if you don't just build 4x yellows in a lane where you're apparently too afraid to shoot her in anyway
how am i meant to build victortorment pulse + pure stink tank or early leech/berseker to carry harder?
Fuck lategame drifter is so fucking fun, from hunting fuckers to being an actual beast ripping assholes in half within seconds
>>544860992Time to drink oop
>>544860707I'm truly sorry that she gave you the impression you were actually good and that you were playing a character with actual weaknesses.Yes, Mina have some of the best in-lane sustain with Rake, yes Mina's 2 allows her to escape basically any fight in lane no matter how deep she pushes and no matter what spells/debuff are planted on her, yes Mina have also insane damage and the most oppressive stack in the game and yes she plays in and out and will easily harass and outpoke almost any character in the game.But aight, i'll give you something, she probably have a harder time against Talon and Holliday.
>>544860992What build? Late game really feels like a stat check because if they just have too much damage you explode
>>544860992>Fuck lategame drifter is so fucking funNot really, you're just enjoying the powertrip of being overfed with a bazillions stacks.
Who can forget that famous Drifter™ quote?
>3 smurfs on one team (not queued together)>3 low ranks on the other>smurf team rapes the other team to death>next game>HMMMMMMM YES! LETS PUT THE SAME PEOPLE ON THE SAME TEAM AGAIN!Brilliant match making Yoshi. Whoever said they used chatGPT for match making is wrong, AI would not be this retarded at doing this.
>>544861314pretty sure it's AI generated
>>544861168Cunt I'm the person that plays pretty much exclusively Billy and Drifter around here. I can promise you I have a harder time in lane against her than whatever bitchmade character you're playing that's actually capable of trading with her, but refuse to fire back with>NOOOO she's unkillableYou're just fucking terrible retard. Literally just run at her. Her bullets are fucking terrible outside of her proc and that has a long enough cooldown for you to kill her from 100 - 0 with just bullets in return. If you can't force her to dash more than once every 20 seconds in a matchup you can win in 8 seconds of not being a fag, you deserve to loseContinue to think she's this unkillable monster when the highest elo players think she's middling at best
>>544861373Sloppa makes the strangest mistakes.
>>544861445>two characters that quickly close the distance then shit out bursthmmm
>the highest elo players in question: Lil Vladdy in Ritualist
god this game runs like absolute fucking shit
>>544861612Do you have a 1060 or what?
>>544861518>two characters that only get a chance to play for 4 seconds and have to use all their stamina to even interactYeah. Play betterWhen you fuck up, you go back to whining under tower with 60% hp. When melees fuck up, they die. But I'm not shit at the gameAlso if you think Drifter has burst at all before his first 3200, lol. And Billy at least needs to hit level 6 for full comp + ult. Meanwhile you somehow lose at level 3 vs jer every game given how much of a cuck you sound like
>>544861705I'm not even the sperg you're freaking out at, but saying that you just tard dive mina when you play two characters that excel at doing that is noseblind
>>544861705Emissary.Low Oracle at best.
>>544861784Mina shit on Drifter and Billy.The guy is just shitlow.
>>544861784They have some of the worst matchups against her and I still do it because Mina is a flowchart character to beat. Just play aggressive on any fucking character. They're not even good early characters. Drifter is fucking terrible early and Billy needs 2 points in 3 at minimum, whereas the faggots complaining about Mina act like they've lost lane level 2>>544861786Me: a couple weeks ago speedrunning from AscendantYou: nooo the 600 hp character kills me on repeat and I never bother learning how to play against her :(I'll give you a different tip since you're a colossal cuck and somehow just running at her with 2 people isn't enough. Buy Slowing Hex. Wow that's fucking crazy, she's not able to lane anymore
>>544861993>that 16 minute gamethey had to have all left, right?
>>544861993>All these +35 min gamesHoly shitlow... Please tell me you're the drifter making webms whiffing 2/3 of your shots.
>>544862053Yeah they all left after we walked through their towers at minute 6But 20 minute games aren't uncommon even without people leaving, because people know how to close out a game with an advantage
>>544861901mina shits on anyone who has a hitbox
>3 gun carries on team>paige (not included in the 3) builds pure gun>not a single green or spirit item at 40 minutes>least damage>intentionally lets her team die>teabags dead team mates>steals camps and sinners>can't 1v1 a 4/12 viscous under our walkerThis shit somehow isn't bannable?Which tard wrangler loosened the strips on this gypsy's helmet?I swear to god Paige players are the most straightjacket drooling troglodyte freak players of this game, just behind infernus and drifter players.Shit could've been a free win if he just built spirit or support. A single shield on either of the carries could win a fight.But instead this ape nigger just refuses to play for the team, in a team game.I had to lock in and carry too hard to win this shit, and she didn't deserve an ounce of it.To have less than 12k dmg, no obj dmg and no healing at the end of a 40 minute game as full gun paige, you should just fucking kill yourself, honestly.
>>544862107You mean the 35 minute games where I've got like 55k+ nw on characters that can't solo push everything down? Evidently I'm dragging my team by the collar like the dogs they are or else we'd be winning in 25 minutes if even 1 other person was fedWhat's your excuse when you probably play M1s exclusively while bitching about Mina
>>544861993>drifter>billy>mo>ExclusivelyWaow this is so cool!!! I always wanted to meet a single cell, paraplegic organism. Thank you for making ym wish come trueee!
>>544862250I'm picking characters I enjoy and winning (except Mo, I have like 4 games on him and was just testing him)You're picking everything and somehow losing to Mina with all of themlollmao
>>544862237Are you NA or worse Oceania by any chance?Even Phantom games do not last that long.
The Mina derangement in this general is actually embarrassing and I know it's only going to stop when streamers start bitching about a new hero en masse because you all just regurgitate their opinions anyways without actually thinking for yourselves
>>544862430found the minggershe's objectively broken and the only thing keeping her winrates down is her popularity in driftwoodlow ranks
>>544862352Half of Lomeine's past 10 games went past 30 minutesSame for Parzelion'sI'm carrying people solo which is what happens when you go on 15 game winstreaks, games go longer
>>544862578>filters winrate by rankhmmmmmmm
>>544862338Whatever I play, at least it requires engagement with the game.Your entire hero roster is hold W M1 to win every fight or press one button to win.>urr I Im hafing fun duuuudeDon't care. The downie retards are also having plenty fun throwing shit too. Only everyone else looks at them in disgust. You're no different.
>>544862430As the person begrudgingly defending Mina but only because others are retarded, she is an unfathomable nigger character and every bit of criticism she gets is deserved. I'm only pointing out that it's her midgame onward where she can clear the entire jungle in a picosecond, get farmed, overextend, and fuck off that's annoying. Her laning phase is just a little annoying and nothing more for people that know how to counterbuild and don't play like cuck cowards
>>544862714what is with this dude rage baiting>guy comes in the thread saying he was screeching nigger at people >retarded chimp out ragebait reply chains beginI'm nooticing
na players are retarded so who cares
>>544862714>Your entire hero roster is hold W M1 to win every fight or press one button to win.In what fucking world are either of those characters M1 heroes lol. One of them's entire job is to peel and play mindgames until retards parry, then melee. M1 is just a bonus because of WreckedThe other is a 3 second hybrid character at best who only M1s as cope when people didn't die instantly, and is currently considered the bottom 2 character in the game by literally every high level playerYou're coping unfathomably. I play the shittiest character in the game and go on omega winstreaks. You sit here bitching about Mina like her love bites has no CD
>>544862597You have as much 40+ min games in that small sample than Parzelion have among all his recorded matches on Statlocker.You're either just a statistical anomaly and provided a sample that happens to have match durations more representative of a Ritualist to Oracle than of an Ascendant or you're living in a weak region or you're not ascendant.
>>544862789are you talking about the college guy?those days are long behind me>>544862824>drifter>press 4, everyone is blind>press W, hold m1>no need to aim because no damage fall off and insane spread that makes missing impossible>gorillion fire rate, lifesteal and unavoidable ability that procs melee but is unparriable>if they run, just teleport instantly to them, impossible to hit with the disgusting hit box and travel timeif that's how you're playing billy, you're even more retarded than I thoughtno shot you're above archon
>>544862578What hero do you play disingenuous nigger?
>>544862814trvke but they are too dumb to see it so pointing it wont help
Is there a way to see what server/etc you're connecting to? It seems like I am ALWAYS on 70+ ping no matter when I play. I'm US East, and I know right now it's early (woke up can't sleep) but every damn game I play is more than 30+ ping. I can't even remember the last time I didn't play a game that was lagging
>>544863106Reminder that Shiv never had 50%< winrate.Even when he could build rage by shooting creeps.
>>544862924>40 minute gamesEvery single one of those games except one is on the character incapable closing out games solo and heavily reliant on teammates actually playing. I also only happened to start playing Drifter seriously around that time so I was experimenting with buildsYou don't go on 15 game winstreaks consistently unless you're capable of carrying the uncarryable. I turn guaranteed losses into another 12 minutes of suffering. It happens25 minute games happen consistently for the faggots that get dragged by the collars and quit the game 15 minutes in rather than the ones dragging>>544863076>M1 DrifterHow I know you're projecting archon lol. If a Drifter is the only threat in a game and he's gun, he's not a threat and he's not killing people in 3 seconds because he just got triple hexed + walked at. Isolation is a meme and blind is a half-meme because you just walk at your teammatesThe only top level player who isn't going exclusively hybrid into spirit or support is Xera and he's a nigger that just plays whatever he's told to by Ranger. And even then he's been playing spirit latelyBottom 2 character and even then, there's nothing genuinely worse than him. I'm sure your shit might make a bit of sense if Drifter was allowed to get lategame every gameSo what's your excuse for getting shit on by Mina in lane bitchboy. Post your winrates
>>544863234>Dodges the question>"M-Muh Shiv"Mina could get nerfed 20 times and you'll still be Oracle or lower forever
>>5448631067AscendantCapacitor aint shitLike I said, winrate doesn't matter.Mina is picked virtually every game, basically surpassing haze in pickrate, and low rank timmies don't know how to play the game, much less a hero with as little health as minaAny rank above the pissiest of pisslow however, people realize how to play her and she becomes impossible to beat in lane, midgame, and only if she wastes 2 like a retard can you *maybe* kill her with full build
>>544863498I'm just pointing out an interesting fact.I don't know, do you think we can extrapolate something from that?
Does this typically happen in this game?
>>544863106if you lose lane on this hero, youre the dumbest gorilla nigger on earth
>>544863607yes, but only when one person ragequitsjust wait till you have a game where your team is 5v6 but still winning, you KNOW you can carry, but because its "free to leave" your team mates start to leave one by one if they die or get ever so slightly tilted
>>544863461How unfortunate that your teammates are bringing you down so bad that your profile looks like that of a shitlow.
>>544863540That winrate is from ascendant and eternus lmfao
>>544863710why don't they just make 5v6s not scored is my question
>>544863762Okay now post your winstreaks and characters. Let's see the characters you're somehow incapable of winning against Mina with
These two are having a really long back and forth
>>544863776still doesn't matterher design is fundamentally overpoweredher two is the strongest escape ability in the gameher 1 gives her essentially a shiv ult on no cooldown and a way to infinitely sustanher passive turns her into an infernus 2.0 where all you need to do to win is land 10% of your shots to do all your damageand her ult is not only a get out of jail free card, but also a press 4 to win button in any of the open areasthank god they at least nerfed the objective damage
>>544864015>fundamentally overpowered>low winrate at all ranksgen z's strongest critical thinker
>>544864074>buh blubluh bu the doto players LOST on the HERO SO ITS BAD
>>544864074What do you think of release Shiv?
>>544864074That's like seeing Shiv is fine because his winrate is dogshit
>>544864015You are extremely retarded
>>544864074>duuuude winrate is all that matters duuuuuude>it's not like this is a team game where you need your team to be human to win or anything duuuude, winrate decides EVERYTHING DONT YOU FUCKING GET IT DUUUUUDEgod you're pathetic minacuck
>>544864129>>544864135I don't keep up on the tournament sceneI think winrate + tournament representation is an objective power rating and anyone who disagrees is copingis mina over repped in tournaments?
ITS NOT THE SAME WHEN ITS MY AGP WAIFU
>>544864135Did shiv have such an extremely shitty winrate at the highest rank?
>>544864158how about instead of resorting to insults you refute the points I madeyou can't because theyre trueotherwise youd be jumping at the opportunity to make me look bad by "owning me" when proving how her abilities are totally not like what I said
>>544864224He has it right now bro and yet every streamer is bitching about him or playing him when they're not on Haze/Infernus
>>544864224Shiv has historically never ever been at 50% or more winrate. Even in his absurdly blatantly broken states. This is because Shiv players are retarded.
>>544864301>This is because Shiv players are retarded.Holy smokes, just like Mina players!
>>544864015>Two is the strongest escape ability in the game Has nowhere near the distance of other escape abilities, nullified by a simple slowing hex or silence wave >Her 1 is shiv ult You clearly don't know the numbers on either ability or how they actually work >Her passive turns her into Infernus 2.0 Except her passive is one burst of damage that can only be repeated every 4ish seconds if you're just letting her shoot at you uncontested whereas Infernus has a cancerous DoT that does insane damage over time and can be fully reprocced with 1 bullet, these abilities are not comparable at all >Her ult is a press 4 to win button You know 90% of the map has some kind of cover you can get to within a second rightAt this point I'd be surprised if you were even Oracle I'm just going to assume you're Alchemist or some shit
>>544864724you're not good
Oh for God's sake can't you tossers just run a mid lane 1v1 instead of filling the thread with piss?
>game lasted 30 minutes instead of 45+I'm really moving up in the world aren't I
>>544861675my specs are irrelevant, the game runs way worse than it should given how it looksbut it's a beta so
>>544865006he doesn't look like that
>>544864891I'm not the one relentlessly seething about an overrated hero that's easily countered though? Maybe if you try really hard and counterbuy sometimes you can be Emissary one day!
This game will be a huge downgrade if there are no facial expressions at launch.
>>544865089mhmm yeah, big countering happening in your 4 minute game
>>544865107only if we get TF2 freezeframe killcams that show off those facial animations otherwise the game moves way too fast for it to ever matter
>>544864724>nullified by a simple slowing hex or silence waveso is every other escape abilityexcept its not even true because if she presses it before youre in range for either (or while silence wave travels, warning every mina player in the area with the loudest screech ever), she can be hit by them unlike others who still have their hurboxes at least present in the game>how they actually workIt's called an illustrationpoint is it scales with missing health and has a non-existent cooldowncuriously you forgot to talk about just how fucking broken it is in terms of sustain throughout the game>one burst of damage>can be repeatedhuh... brain aneurisms are one scary thingthe point is, you don't need to do shit to do damageyou hit a couple of shots at the start, miss the rest of your magazines, but it doesn't matter since you essentially dealt all your damage for the next "4 seconds" and that's usually enough to kill anyone by finishing with 1>90% of the mapnot the places that mattermidboss or patron pit, for exampleher presence makes these areas uncontestable, much like a seven or dynamo or lash would, except you can't counter her with any of the methods you would the others because she can just press 2 to dodge them and keep denying/oneshotting to her likingthe fact it silences makes fighting her impossible for its duratin
>>544865203I'm sure they gotta do killcams too.
>>544865107it's valve game of course it will have facial expressions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5_xGKJKhk>>544865203it will be worth it to see a smiling teammate run toward you as they use the Thanks voiceline
if mina was really running the game like everyone here claims spellbreaker would be the most popular item in the game
>>544865362>implying people buy counters
>>544865362i buy it in every single lobby
How long does it take to get gud? I'm finally getting a handle on most of the map but the game moves so fast and builds are so complicated that it's basically impossible for me to keep up with everyone else so far
>>544866298personally, around the 150-200 hour mark is where i got comfortable with the shop and I could recall what items did what and what item counters i needed, where I was glancing at enemy inventories and able to understand it without effort.this depends on how well your memory is of course. checking the wiki out of game helps with cementing that item knowledge.
>>544866298I wouldn't worry too much about the high level movement unless you play a character like Holiday. Just remember the basics like mantle strafing and you'll build a decent foundation.
>>544866298Depends on moba experience and game senseAt 100 hours I knew all the items, what everyone character did (with some minor exceptions like not knowing the specifics of Warden ult or something), the general build of every character or at least what they commonly used, etc. But I also come from a massive background in this stuff and 90% of the mechanics translatedThe biggest issue is learning movement and minor advantages like boxes. I'm 150 hours in and I've only barely managed to make myself learn how to generally get to jump pads, wall hop in stressful situations, have a half-assed grasp of box efficiency, and still don't know the meta escape routes. But also I'm way higher rank than most would be at this amount of hours because I just rape shitlow with pure fundamentals
Soul confirmation was infinitely better with the janky latency registration 18 months ago without the freebie buffer.No souls get denied. Maybe 2-3 souls on each side of a line at most.There's no point in trying to deny unless your enemies aren't paying attention, like retards, but that's still a handful.>"skill issue"The faggot that you are, not even enemies can deny. The freebie buffer removed all fight over it.
>>544866936valve needs to learn about rollback
>>544867164Soul orbs need to have health anyways. It would make high damage, slow firing guns feel less like shit trying to secure souls, while nerfing low damage, fast fire rate heroes for it (as it is not fair).
>>544867276Jungle 2.0 might fix it somehowI bet they make some camps that only get damaged by spirit or have bullet reflect or other properties like that to give non-bulletcarries an alternative that doesn't just get vacuumed up by bulletcarries at 10 minutes
>>544866936They already nerfed the value like 10 times before thatNon dotards just couldn't handle it so they incrementally nerfed them into irrelevance
>>544866298Took me about 50 hours to not be a total sandbag. I wouldnt say I was "good" but I started having a 60% winrate in shitlow
guess the heroes I queue for
>>544868923MnKWardenAbrams
There are not enough active itemsor farm on the mapfor me to have handled this team
>Lost half the players since the 5 new heroes releaseWhy is there no staying power for this game?
>>544869423Because the game is filled with bugs and most of the mechanics are subject to change. Most people dont want to work for valve for free
>>544869423It's a beta
>>544869423>the steam chart shitposters have started againWe are so back
>>544869397Better to go gunamo when your team is like this
is fortitude even worth taking nowadays
>>544870545Yes. Just not for the same reason it was when every M1 was takingIt's still good regen between fights + consistent speed + a fuckton of health. Any character can use that, it's just not necessarily always the most optimal and it can be easy to miss the timing when it's most efficient
>>544868923How do I find this
How does the games match making truly expect you to "carry"? Lets for example say I am the best player in the game of 12. How am I supposed to tard wrangle 5 people who do not listen, do not help, don't know how to play the game, do not do the most obvious shit like backing off a fight where no one is helping them and 4 enemies are next to them? Just lost a game by nearly 70k souls, a Seven that got 0 kills and died 15 (FIFTEEN!!!!) times, and the rest of my team also couldn't get anything going because we were just down too far. But it makes no sense to me, why does the game put these players on my side? I don't get it? The enemy team at a very minimum was very good and possibly had 2 smurfs on it at worst. It is ridiculously aggravating to play with such fucking idiots. I won't even say I am great at the game. I'd say I'm pretty good, I know how to play and fight and yadda yadda. But being forced to lose is so anti-fun it's ridiculous. I would genuinely prefer 100% random match making than whatever we have now. It does not seem to matter how hard I try, I am always losing because I am FORCED to play with such bad players it is impossible to win. No hyperbole, it's impossible. If you took the actual best players in the game and put them on these teams I get, they couldn't do it either.
>>544871158jokes on you im comms banned so i dont even give a fuck anymorejust nonstop brooling and what happens happens
>>544864194>winrate is all that mattersNow you are getting it
>>544871158There's not much you can do in the giga-feeding retard matches, but game genuinely comes down to lane > win 1 teamfight > grab mid > win. Doesn't matter who's in the lead, doesn't matter what elo, this is consistent. The only inconsistent stuff is that lower elo people won't listen to 'mid' calls unless you scream at them in the mic, and higher elo players will pay attention to Dynamo, etc, being up so they might not mid immediately
Why doesn't more shit stop Victor aura
>>544869978Dota2 was released as beta too, and incomplete.But the game mechanic is tried & proven, so the playerbase has only increased since the beta release.They even have LOL as competitor.Meanwhile, deadlock is dying.>>544870131Are you saying that's not true?Fact doesn't care about your feelings
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>>544871158You're gonna get games where the hyper carries just run it down and refuse to afk farm. I get the feeling since I've had like 4 bad teams in a row where I was 1 v 11ing the piggiest teams of pig mountain, its just the nature of mobas. My best advice is to not let it get to you. Always keep good mental, even if your retard team-mates run it down all it takes is one big mistake from the enemy team for the odds to shift.
>>544871158comeback is a myth
I absolutely hate Mina's ultimate. There are no other instance in this game where I feel more bullshitted on. Other abilities that can completely shut someone down to death require far more commitment.
>>544869423zoomers need some form of progression/carrot on a stick to stick with a game for a long timethe game is also kinda frustrating at the moment in terms of balance
>>544865006Yeah someone who looks like this says that
>>544869423Show me a game with a staying power.
>queue game>I shall help my team!>build tanky brooler>team is full of lemmings that literally zip and instantly die on repeat as they spawnI fucking hate mobas manthis game is so fun and so cool but holy fuck, team games are the most anti-social experiences you can opt into wait 5 minutes in queue just to get locked in some sort of fucked up stanford prison experiment
>>544874126I feel like her ult is her worst abilityThe rake heal is cracked, the dash is cracked, the love bites are cracked, the ult reminds me of old seven ult where it was op vs people who didnt los and useless against those who did
Gun Guest vs Spirit Geist vs Hybrid Geist?Which is generally best late game?
>>544875673>reddit spacing mina playerabsolutely disgusting
>>544865362mina has a 30% winrate across all elos, basically a guaranteed loss if you get her on your team
after all this time, the recent patch made it so that ava can chase the ball in the hideout again, I'm surprised nobody's talking about this
>>544875674Gun is always better late game but I think hybrid is probably better overall
>>544876057I didn’t even know she did, coolI love sphinx cats so much, sad she’s attached to a hero who has a design I don’t like as well as a kit I hate playing against
>>544875835I dont play mina im a frontline enjoyer
>>544869423I’m glad knowing there are people that post playercount shit about literally every game including deadlock which is still in early access
>>544876281Juts say that you are a racist, chud
>>544876915I like mina (vampire) and drifter (american) so I can’t be racist
>>544875494>high skill range parties
>>544877092Are you hispatino?
>>544877197no
>>544875089>inb4 it doesn't count
Just watched my team have a 5v4 brool for 5 minutes and lose while I actually played the proper macro you're meant to but we lost anywayOh well maybe I'll unlock the mind control power next game
How's this for a first draft hybrid geist?Opener>headshot booster>mystic regen>healing booster>soul shredder bullets>compress cooldown(life drain)Midgame >cultist>radiant regen>warp stone>headhunter>Surge of power(malice)Late game>healing tempo>soul rend>superior cd8 slots, 9.6k in each category
>>544877621basically what you're saying is we need our skinner boxes
I think midboss should be removed.Now all the retards are afraid to even get in the enemy base without rejuv.
I really tried this game, but there isn't much one can do against 2 quitters and a Dynamo who unbound 4.
>>544877128I'm a shitter so I didn't think queuing with my friend would be a problemthey must be initiate. I didn't know...
>>544877781From 2004 - 2011, for 7 fucking years, dota1 with no rewards or items gained from playing on Warcraft 3, have only gained & increased the playerbase instead of dying into abyss.Having no skinner box is not the problem.The game is the problem.And this is actually the best time to come to the conclusion that the game is still bad because players don't even want to play it if there's no other distractions, such as cosmetics rewards.So, now you can either act like an adult, admit that the game is still bad and require fixes & polishing, and we can have a civilized discussion on what the game is lacking, and why players are leaving.Or you can just continue denying facts because your feelings are hurt.Or shitpost, whatever, I'm not your mom. Do whatever you like.
>>544878268>gets disingenuous and argumentative out of nowhere>preemptively tries to take a high ground your behavior is designed around winning conversations rather than engaging with themquit the xitter. it's killing your brain
Mental illness
>>544878268>the early alpha game has problems and still needs workwoooooow
Just realized when they add draft the game will have to be totally rebalanced
>>544878268counter strike players complain about the state of the game more than deadlock players do
>>544831726fake if true
>>544877883There was also this somewhat funny sequence of events where I went to flank a walker while the enemy team was attacking our base. I wanted to quickly take it down and come back to defend (I assumed this would also make them back off), but Paige followed me for some reason, so we stayed to fight Wraith despite my attempts to retreat and defend the base. This probably cost us the match as much as the second leave, which was Haze.
>>544878957paige players are feral fucking bulldogsI have no idea how these most savage of beasts see the sweet booky prep girl and say to themselves "this will be my avatar of destruction"
>>544878268cs:go was considered dogshit and no one played it until they started adding skins
D-Did I just kill someone? He dcd right after this. He also said to his team "not yalls fault".
>>544878957Paige probably gave up on the game already, but learning when to not backup teammates is a pretty good lesson to learn in the game. Fighting a 10k ahead Wraith with rejuv while the base is being attack falls under this
>>544879381>not yalls hecking chungus faultyeah uhuh value was lost
>>544879667meds
Frontline wraith for when the matchmaker designates me the tank Opener>Sprint boots>mystic regen>Enduring speed>healing booster>mystic slow>slow bullets>debuff reducerMidgame>warpstone>radiant regen>debuff removerLate game>healing tempo>juggernaught >lightning scroll>witchmail8 slots, 1600 gun, 9.6k spirit, 25.6k vit
>>544880383>warpstone on a character with a teleport...?>doesn't start effectively tanking until 30k networthjust buy both the barrier items into both the res items
>>544880383yeah no>>544877751yeah nounplayable the character lives and dies by its stupid fucking Expansion bomb that cannot be dodged with mystic burst, no point opening anything else
>>544880623>geist teleportwat
>>544880979????
>>544880979>Frontline wraith
>>544880978Yea im just not gonna run the same thing everygame, this is for when the matchmaker decides its me and a dynamo or drifter frontlining
>>544881089>>544881137Ah I see my brainfart, its a geist build, frontline wraith is a bit too retarded even for me
>>544881294why not radiant regen first item
>>544881383I could i suppose, I wanted to open heavy green to get that+hp and get in the frontline groove
>>544881663doesnt matter if you cant maneuver fleetfoot on every hero no matter whatdont know how geist suck build works cuz if youre not bomb thats what youre doing and she dies instantly just like everyone else
>>544881751brainless automaton
>>544881751As frontline i feel its important to have some cc which she lacks. Thats why I went mystic slow+slow bullets early and just try to lock people down for my teammatesI wouldnt run this if I had a mo its more situational based on the team comp
>>544881294now i kinda wanna try green echo shard teleport wraith
>>544882231echo shard?really?
>>544882423i fucking love echo shard
>>544879381>Dynamo main actually EUTHANIZEDbased
Make paradox 3 round burst instead of 5
>really like DoTs in all games I play>Infernus is THE DoT character>have 40% gun accuracy>and that’s padded because I play a lot of forgiving guns like shotguns and whatever M&K haveaimlet bros… I can’t play half the roster…
>>544883945play mark drifter
>>544883945get torment pulse and walk next to the enemy it's kind of like a dot if you think about ityou don't have to aim at allthat or play shiv, he buys decay (dot) and his knife is also a dot ability and he has a shotgun instead of needing to aimyou can also buy torment pulse on shiv maybe
>>544879381if they actually did it i'm waiting for "person takes their own life over valves new toxic violent bimeo gayme oh the humanity" in news headlines
is cultist sacrifice still worth it after the nerfslooking specifically at billy
>>544883945Bro your pocket? The ULTIMATE dot, can meme it up with toxic, decay, torment pulse, spirit burn
>>544883945If you lack aim then you should try Spirit/Debuff Ivy, your bombs deal good damage all over the game and alch fire is just a second kudzu
does plated armor work against bebop?
I think one of the bigger flaws of Deadlock right now is the jungle. And I don't just mean how boring they are to kill. When you look at Dota 2, the jungle constantly has something to do. Now part of that is wards, which I doubt will ever come to Deadlock but it's how the jungle camps work. In Dota, camps spawn EVERY minute, as long as there is no other jungle camps within it's box. This means there is ALWAYS a reason to be in the jungle. A problem in deadlock right now is how camps spawn based on a timer when they're cleared and for big camps that's 7 whole minutes. At high pre-eternus ranks, it is not uncommon to see the majority of the jungle cleared between the 10-15 minute mark which doesn't give players much to do and importantly not much reason to be in the jungle other than to just hit fucking boxes. This also creates the issue where because there is very little farm on the map the only thing to do is sit in lane or sit near lanes which makes it harder to push objectives or have any type of map awareness because the enemies could be literally anywhere. The medium camps take a 7 whole fucking minutes to respawn when cleared. SEVEN minutes with there just being nothing to do there besides hitting boxes. It's not good to have there nothing to do on the map so often because no jungle. The other problem with howtimers work in Deadlock is that it makes stealing camps WAY more important and impactful in the long term since now the team that had their camps stolen have less ways to catch up. In dota because camps spawn so frequently, the idea of stealing their camps still exist but it's not as severely punishing since there's so many camps and they can also go into your side and steal at the same timeDon't want to get fully into it but I think this is also an issue with deadlock being 6v6 instead of 5v5. There just isn't enough for 6 people to do on the map at all times. This is also without getting to all of the other stuff people can do on the map in dota
>>544881919*wraith ults your granny tits and rapes you as you try to walk towards me*
>>544886816because they're supposed to be fighting goddamn itnot avoiding enemy territory and consistently growing stronger because they never run out of jungle camps
>>544886372I don't think so, you already peak at 50k ish souls anyway. I really struggle late-game because most of my items feel essential and I don't know if should replace them with a chunky t4 item
>>544887471>CULTIST>50K SOULSdis nigga
It's really impressive how resistance items quickly get outpaced by the dmg items.
>>544887471I thinks its probably better to just a get a real orange item and get brooling but its definitely not bad
>mina teammate>10 deaths in 10 minutesWhat do I even do about this.>>544888348>have juggernaut, plated armour, bullet res>Haze still gets delete meThe only thing that works is disarm. We need like, spellbreaker but it disarms the first person to shoot you every x seconds. Anything to stop stupid fucking insta kill Haze ambushes. It feels like passive bullet counters are worthless and you have to build actives or get fucked. Spirit counters OTOH actually do a good job.
>>544888768>JUGGERNAUT FOR HAZENigger get metal skin and its GG
>>544888348unironically only a problem with gun, buying anti-gun items besides battle vest, warp stone and juggernaut is basically throwing because they are all dogshit and even these good ones are mostly good just because they have an alternate utility or (in the case of juggernaut) the gun hero can't actually buy a counter to it like APR, capacitor, debuff remover, etc.
>>544889079? Fire rate slow is great cause it reduces both the gun and fixation
>>544889079>buys APR>uses capacitor (every gun hero buys this)>walks away for 5 seconds then kills you instantly because she still builds up fixation through metal skin (you can't actually escape or chase because metal skin makes you slow)epic of you to throw 3200 souls into the trash
>>544884704I had a drama queen roommate that did this shit and it was so exhausting. He never commited but he scared the uni quite often.
>build tank suck geist>rush to the front of the fight >save my teammates multiple times by reverse sucking them>you can blow a teammate while you suck an enemygreen hero = green itemsit's that simple
this game trully is just a fucking coinflip with your teammates. If no one excepts you wants to fucking push it's over
>>544889404then buy disarming hex you crybabyguns are useless and if you get killed by a gun in the spirit nuke game you are retarded
>>544889582800 base hp doesnt hurt either
>>544889825she just waits five seconds and sleeps you
>opponent always counterplays>me never counterplaysskill issue
>>544889079I’m complaining about being able to mitigate spirit well with passives but not gun, anon. If I have to build actives to deal with one but not the other and the other doesn’t even have a CD, then obviously gun is to busted. Or gun defence too weak.
>>544889825>buys debuff remover>also walks away, but for 4 seconds instead of 5even easier and cheaper to counter>guns are useless and if you get killed by a gun in the spirit nuke game you are retardednot the point plus we are in a gun meta retardpoint is, all of the items that exist to counter gun are actually extremely bad at doing it and can easily be counter-counteredmeanwhile against spirit even just buying plain old spirit res cripples spirit users significatively because they just have to accept that they'll do less damage to you no matter what they try
For your pleasure. Gonna make one for health next
>>544890387>gun metalmao sure
>>544886816>TLDR nothing to do after neutral campsJust BROOL brother, its fun
>>544884041Can you post a build? I was using a gun build after he released to success but lately whenever I've played him I've struggled, and Mark is the ability I level up last which I think is one of the issues
>>544869096>Abrams>Early impactえ?
>oracle 6>play with phantom 2 friend>want to try calico who I have like 4 games on>0-8>average team rank of phantom 4Did they just abolish hero MMR? I wanna try some characters who I'm going to be dogshit with
>>544886816This is honestly a win for deadlock, dota2 has too much safe farm on the map.
>go up a major rank>next 5 games are ball busting slog fests in a losing streakThe 10 win streak was nice while it lasted now I must suffer karmic retribution.
>>544886816Tbh it’s good that an optima team is eventually forced to take risks. You all clear your camps? Now you NEED to face the enemy one way or another. Kill all dotards.
>>544887312>>544891296>>544893878t. shitlows>JUST BROOL when you have no information on the map besides 1-2 people farming lanes on the map!You really misunderstand the bigger picture concepts. When the map is big, and there is no way to know where people will be beyond either showing on the map via waves or making the assumption of where they might be based on what's available on map (camps or urn) then everything becomes too dangerous. Taking the initiative might end up with you getting gang banged because you just have no way of knowing if this person is alone or he has 3 of his buddies sitting nearby to pounce on anything that shows up on the map.
>>544894564>noooo let me safe farm or 3 on 1 gank all match every match until im 20k up nooooothey WANT you to be forced to engage moron
>>544890542>5 conditional activesToughest cut in a while
Drifters Bloodscent is such a shit ability and getting stacks is almost never going to happen
>Leap into the sky>Whiff Death Slam>"Yep, that's on Lash.">Die>Repeat
>>544896848>people that still play lash+seven despite the nerfsI love you Lash and Seven bros.
>>544897381yoshi has to revert the ancient ground strike nerf so it scales from height better, also double skybox height
>winning>enemy team flaming haze>stop to type and say dont just blame the haze you all suck>haze pops out and tries to kill me>run away back somewhere safe>try to type again >haze is low HP and tunneled the fuck out of me>kill her and teabag>"Ok yeah the haze is a fucking dumb nigger sorry"
>>544897381>nerf and give a remodel for herowhy do devs do this
>>544897558yeah skybox height kinda fucks shiv but at the same time it's what prevents vinny from being too cancerous.
>>544898314just buff knockdown so it has infinite vertical range
>>544898314>shivTHE LASH***
>>544894564>t. shitlowsIm Asc1 btw, and im not saying brool just for the fun of it but if you dont have anything to do you should try and force fights with urn or any other objectiveIf you can't coordinate your team's ults to win a fight then you're playing wrong
>>544898674More like ass 1 you initiate pisslow retard
>>544897381The Lash does not concern himself with the nerfs, he still rapes
>>544894564this is the kind of worthless mouthbreathing nigger that always joins teamfights after everyone died in a 6v5 because he's too afraid of being ganked
>>544898806>Gets proven wrong>Spergs out with no counter argumentCope harder please
R8 my trash lash build, I call it the mina obliterater Inspired by lashes 10% spirit resist
>>544899084I didn't even back read your retarded argument I can tell you're garbage from just 1 post.
What's the best Victor build?Lystic or Metro?
>>544899645>Mina obliterater>No slowing hex???4/10 for the effort
Why in the fuck would you ever build Silencer when both Inhibitor and Silence wave exist?It just seems like such an overpriced piece of shit item
>>544899971Ok I add it
>played Victor for 15 games straight>now massively overestimate my survivability when I’m forced off himI’m throwing so hard.
>>544862430always remember the average rank of this general is seeker when you see mass seethe like this
What's the average rank of the inhouse?
>>544901417Playinh Victor made me aggressive, confident, and bold.I play better now on every character.I guess I was too passive prior.
>>544901937like alchemist or something it's quite low
Have you just considered that all characters with M1 passives are utter cancer to play against?
Every Deadlock E-celeb have Mina in S or A tier
FOR THE DJINN
>>544902029So the multiple Ascendants of the general just never play inhouses?
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1oljy1g/i_hate_waiting_till_december/NEW LEAK BROS???
>>544902392Just vastly out numbered. I don't look everybody's rank up, I only checked leaderboard position for the only other Eternus who played before but based on how the games are most people are below Oracle for sure
>>544902458>occult vietbam soldierThis is such a fucking meme
>>544902458>tvspirit is dead
>>544902458>succubus and swan scrappedCadencebros...
>>544886816this isnt a flaw, theres limited jungle because they dont want a jungle role, and they want teams to contest their own limited farm, not everything has to be the way it is in dota, let it fucking go
All they need to do is make the jungle and midboss more threatening
>>544902458>7 hours ago>copying post here from 16 hours ago but with added larpthis seems extremely real
>>544902458>wrecker2 is pretty new and looks like an occultist vietnam soldierDammit, I wanted a proper non-human monster hero.
>>544902856I hope the leak isn't real, the TV spirit idea is so cool.
>>544902392When I tried the inhouse not a single person in the lobby was archon or above except for me.
>>544903317>post from hereProofs?
People lie about their rank on /vg/.It's the same on /sfg/ and /tekgen/, everyone is 1800MR or Tekken God in the threads, you join lobbies and it's all sub master and blue ranks.
>>544903613spoonfeeding...>>544831726
>>544892725Sasuga shoulder-chan
>>544902458Open the dead heroes is fake.
>>544836489MAKE HIM A FEMBOY VALVE PLEASE
>>544904185>openhope*
>get parried>spam parry>get double heavy'd>parry>double heavy melee>get parriedwhat the fuck how does this shit work
>>544904379>run into the Mina/Paige/Incubus/Succubus/Ivy queue>IKnowWhatYouAre>>544904428The amount of times I’ve been melee’s with the parry effect up is crazy
>>544902458Nah pretty fakeThis guy aint no minesweeper
>>544903938this is cope, Im not joining your gay ass inhouses and Id imagine the kind of people that seek social interactions on /vg/ arent good at any game
>>544905076>I’m lying about my rank so I took personal offencelol
The patrons are getting humanoid designs, what do you think the female patron is going to look like?
>>544906301Iirc fem patron is city/machine themed and male is plant/wilds themed.
>>544841445nah that's Gigawatt
I have to *gulp* interact with the enemy team?!BEFORE I farm my daedelus, mjollnir and heart?!!
>>544906985>>544906301The female one is a star spawn no?Though the icon also looks like the statue of liberty's head so...
>>544907281What hero is buying all three of those items???
>Try to double jump>Accidentally grab a zip line>Get stunned>Die
>>544907514Is this a leak
>>544907589This is my favourite episode, I always tune into it when trying to defend my base guardians
>>544907759It was leaked like a month ago.
>see a victor that doesn’t build charges all game???? No sir I do not want 4 cleanses and 3 billion HP
I hate playing GunbopI hate playing against Gunbop
>>544908019desu literally any variety of bop is awful to play against
>>544907586Viper
>>544908019don't worry i only play greenbop and grab you from 60m
>>544908620I swear to god you niggers are like the borg, did some faggot make a youtube video and now you all have to do this
I buy collosus on all female heros
>>544909130Video? just a common strategy for characters with cc
>>544889582what's the build
>>544909265>doesn't increase the size of their tits and assONE JOB VALVE
>>544909130Bebop has some of the highest HP in the game, has good CC with hook and to a degree even bop, and his ult is mega aids annoying with little investment. Doesn't take a genius to put together that a green support build would be good for him
>>544910015It technically does. It just also increases the rest.
I wish colossus move & dash slow was a separate passive item. Would love that shit on so many characters.
>>544910015Modders will save us
This is such a noob trap item. The active is just bad. 6s to not be able to use any abilities or have any mobility....what's the point? Blood tribute and vampiric burst both give +40% fire rate with better trade offs and yes vampiric is twice the price but it's well worth it
>>544911296It’s for dumb cunt worthless bastard piece of shit haze players.
Pocket should wear a trilby or something.>but infernus has a hat!yeah literally everyone wore one then.
>>544911296it's for tanks to combine with return fire
>>54491129640% spirit resist
>>544901937i'm ascendant 3 but i usually go out of my way to play heroes i don't play a lot (i.e. any of them but ivy) and/or meme/untested builds
>>544911734that's a little out of pocket don't you think?
>>544902523bro the games actually playout worse than emmisary lobbies idk how. maybe I'm just use to playing with five stacks or something as a soloQ.
>>544911998i will rape you to death carlos
>>544911998>name is pocket>carries everything in his breifcase
>20+ minutes>1-2 of the randoms on your team die like retard>enemy gets mid and proceeds to get an insane lead that you can do literally nothing about because of their sheer stat buffs from patron buff along with it now being a 6v9>losethis game is somehow less fun that fucking league of legends right now.Mid boss meta has the be THE worst moba meta I have ever partook in.
>playing Holliday (Froggy Mod)>alone on lane farming>2 people come to kill me>get away >2 more show up>still out>counterspell krill ult and get out>2 of my teammates ran in to save me and died:///////Won anyway but I wish people would respect my capabilities, Holliday is insanely good with Stam Mastery (not a crutch on her afaic) + Veil Walker
>>544827902>paigetroon that enjoys her kit unironically and finds it "fun">is also a troon that stomachs AI slop enough to not only save that slop to his PC but to upload it for his dogshit low quality postPaige was the biggest mistake valve has made in this game.total gooner death.
>>544912603NTA but I love hazard skills and hers is on a charge soCan’t wait for the payload gameplay where I can go spirit paige with alch flask and make the payloads a burning hellscape.
>>544831726>hero_werewolfplease be true
>>544912851Yes, but like this!
I have not been having a good time today.
>>544906985desu i hope the sapphire flame remains the mechanical-industrial-magical floaty ball, i really like that design for some reason>>544907010fuck youre right, im retarded
>>544911785Not worth it
my smurf got ranked up too hardtime to make a new one
am I crazy to think that Mo counters gun Vyper?
Inhouse soon?
>>544914806>all the top end players are so anti-fun that they all inevitably attrition out or make smurfs>the smurfing ones run everyone in the lower ranks funCan you no-fun-allowed faggots just quit and let the rest of us enjoy our game in peace?
>>544912603>t. hazenigger that plays pve and says "well i didn't die and i'm top net worth"
>>544915001The guy with a disarm, a knockup and hard CC countering a glass cannon that needs to constantly move in order to deal damage? No way hoss
>>544915091yes nigga
>>544915130no, not until they balance match making
>>544914714It isSee>>544890542
>>544915091Only if you promise to fill the lobby
>>544915091host NOW>>544915001any CC counters gun vyper but mo counters her speciall hard because he has a built in disarm and like 60% bullet res with a tiny hitbox in the floor (impossible to hit while sliding) while burrowed as well
>>544890542being colourblind makes the item system in this game absolute hellweapon and vitality item colours are almost exactly the same for me
>>544915274Matchmaking is balanced retardo, its a a sorting algorithm that's been solved since foreverYou just dont understand variance
>>544915274Then just quit the game until they do.No one likes playing with you faggots, not even yourselves.
>>544915869just report me for smurfing then and go next, its just 1 match sis
>>544915865people are getting matches with a six-medal-wide rank variance
>>544915091>>544915237>>544915495>>544915567INHOUSES S0QQHS0QQHS0QQH
>>544916018I do, every time, but you shitfuckers just make another smurf when it's banned.
>tfw there are so many smurfs that you've become an expert at detecting them>some matches in initiate/seeker are 2/3rds smurfsYou fuckers are just bringing your un-fun trash down here with you.It won't get any better.You won't have any fun down here either when all that's here are your smurfs.Just quit and save us all the grief.
>>544910160and yet every bebop playing faggot figured it out last week somehow
smurfs are a good thing, you will improve seeing how the smurfs play against you. A learning experience and free coaching right there.
>>544916442lmao that pic
>>544917173Cute. Mina crying in the background
>>544916442Every time I've joined one of these it don’t even reach half full after 20m
>>544917498that's like saying you learn math faster by being dumped into university calc right after learning to addfuck you
>>544917173you can play with us again if you want you were good at pocket
>>544917664fuck that korean gold digger
ONLY 4 MORE NEEDED FOR THE INHOUSE JOIN INS0QQHS0QQHS0QQH
>>544917859https://youtu.be/FeTDWNf3zyk?si=l7ujgEO02lqwiRRE&t=161smurfs are a good thing, you are coping
paige heavy melee looks like testes
>>544918194I'm only alchemist am I gonna get fucked by 1000 hour sweats?
>>544918441Nah you'll be right
>>544918441you are gonna get fucked by the 1000 hour alchemists
>>544918194is this NA?
>>544918645USE
>>544918645yes, US east
>>544918609that’s me
>>544918427>invite players 1v5d me for half an hour in a team game and i am delusional and i benefitted from the experiencelol
>>544917859dont argue with spastics like this, they wont change their ways
>>544918793>>544918724gonna subject myself and you all to EU ping
>>544917736its the weekend so people are filling it up this time>>544918645yes, US East
>>544918993like half the players (this includes me) are EU anyways dude
Need 2 more bouncy fellasS0QQH
>>544918931t. oracle 1
>>544919240>nta but tfw my exact rank being used as shitter identification
>>544845360Except that's not true. Your bomb is wave clear. Suck is for sustain. Daggers amp your bullet damage. Ult requires no items to function. All your abilities remain useful.
>>544844675gun just sucks ass, there are better gun heroes if you are good at aiming, like door, or holliday
JUST 2 MORE SLOTS LEFT IN THE INHOUSES0QQHS0QQHS0QQH10/12 JOIN IN
>>544918427the only valid kind of "smurfing" is getting a high variance match where the best player is like 1 medal at absolute maximum above the lowestif people don't have the game knowledge and tools to respond to your skill expression or even comprehend what you're doing to them they categorically can't learn from it
Not joining
>>544844675Spirit kit, not my fault devs balance her for a hybrid build when spirit is more fun. Gunfags already have their choice of m1 bullshit, I’m gonna play the hybrids as spirit.
>>544916139Not valves fault players chimp out after 45s in q
>>544920420don't botherthese people would put cod players in quake live and say it's okay to play pros because uhhh they might understand timers and map control doe
>>544919560if it makes you feel any better seekers catch the most strays(I am a large reason for this)
Is Ritualist good enough to feel happy with yourself?
>>544921007i started in late sept and im archon 1, doesn't feel good enough for me
>>544921007the only standards you ever have to meet are your own, if youre happy initiate 1 is plenty
poop rat you brown gorilla nigger, ready up
I have one for health too if you guys want it, though it's not that interesting since so many items give you small bits of health. That being said checking that + this made me realize just how good Hollow Point is.Gives you a lot of raw health, a lot of OoC regen, and the weapon damage bonus is very fucking nice.
>>544921086How many games?
>>544921007Giving a shit about rank in a unfinished game is mental illness honestly. Just enjoy the game.Not saying you shouldn't try to get better or anything, but the nature of MOBAs make it so that climbing is a Sisyphean task even in ideal circumstances.
>>544921203like 500
>>544921187I appreciate these 2bh but if you want attention then the damage stats pr mobility are the way to goSociety has terminal dps brainrot
Is the inhouse still going?
>>544921007Ranks genuinely mean absolutely nothing>ascendant 1half the games are a stomp with retards going 1/10>eternus 3half the games are a stomp with retards raging about shit and feedingit's all the same honestly just try to have fun with the game.
>>544917173>Ginger got race swapped to Asiando people not get skintones or something? At least they both aren't brown.
>tfw your wife is basically Paige but with smaller titsIt's really awkward killing her in matches where she's on the other team...
>>544921187Shadowweave downplayers explain yourselves
>>544923979Does your wife also attract snakes?
that was my first inhouse and it was a stomp
Do customs not have a stats page?
>>544923979You should make it more awkward by forcing your wife to get breast augmentation surgery.
>>544924572just make her boobs bigger the old fashioned way
>>544924471Post the leader board and I’ll tell you why
>>544924664thats a temporary solution leading to a worse outcome
I think I'm done with this game for now. Doornigger and mohammerda every single game, this last one was a hollynigger and doornigger, lasso and doornigger ult every single team fight. Can't even play the game.
>>544924760One team had like three green builds and the other didn't it was that simple
>>544920571that's a terrible comparison
>>544925181Also gunbop with no cdr items and a 9.94 seconds hook. Paradox needs 70+ seconds for her shittier version ofc. Between ugly characters and terrible balancing this game is really juggling failure.
>>544911296It's good actually. 40% fire rate and 40% spirit resist on demand is just straight up powerful. And unlike burst fire you can use it when it's most opportune. It all depends on the character, some are too dependant on their abilities and stamina
>>544924760I don't know how there wasn't one
>>544921914DPS is not really straight forward since a lot of DPS affecting stats have conditionals and there are many characters who have a lot of other stats that affect DPS. Like Infernus's burn damage or how Haze's fixation stacks work. There's also items like tesla bullets and lucky shot which have RNG.
>>544925756Paste the match ID into the spectate projector thing in the hideout when you get a chance
>>544925380no it isn't that really happens
>>544925713>And unlike burst fire you can use it when it's most opportune.Burst fire gives movement speed which is very useful for chasing targets and it has a relatively low CD. it has a 50% uptime.
>>544926060Yeah they're both good
>>544925713I played a game of Drifter with it and noticed after a kill I wasnt 100hp, I was full. All thanks to that item. Slept on it for too long.
here's your forced 50 agent for this afternoon.
>>544917173awful
>>544926424erm... where is the echo shard...
>>544925886Just for the sake of it i'll list every problem that makes DPS testing complicated and long>The bonus stats for investing in weapon items specifically give you different levels of bonuses before the items effects kick in, which also makes some items more or less effective in combination with other items>Items that have conditions (which complicates value)>Items that have some type of scaling>Items that have RNG>Resist shred being a somewhat complicated stat, as the damage it gives being more or less effective depending on how much weapon damage you're currently dealing (the higher your base damage the more benefit you get)>Resist shred also affecting the amount of damage you deal depending on how much armor an enemy already has>Fire rate being above all extremely dependent on the heroes base fire rate.Like theoretically speaking, running glass cannon with max stacks + hunter's aura vs a single target would give you the most value per souls but that's not really a realistic scenario
>>544925886Yea I know but its nice to have quick lists to see which oranges give spirit or purples give firerateI know the wiki already has most of that stuff tho. I made one sorting heros by ult cooldown because they didnt have an easy way to veiw that, I deleted it tho
>M1ersDoes Fred lurk here kek ? Wouldn't surprise me.
>>544924494They do, you just don't automatically get to see them.
>>544927256meds
>>544924494They do but the lobby menu blocks the post-game pop-up so you need to either leave the lobby before it comes up or use the match-id
>>544925894where do isee that if the game already ended
>>544911296This is an item that noobs think is a trap. They can't conceptualize how strong 40% firerate, 40% spirit resistance and 22% lifesteal is when you can actually hit your shots. This item is absolutely loaded and I'm surprised it hasn't been nerfed more severely
>>544927714The console if you didn't close the game but you will have to dig through all of the output to find it. If you really want to check stats for inhouses often get into the habit of taking a screenshot at match start so you can always find it
>less health per boon>change 2 and 3 tiers to have less base damagewow, I balanced infernus! Now he has to actually build spirit to do damage with his abilities and doesn't have a gorillion health for zero reason and has to build actual green items and not be invincible with only leech!
>>544927749*dashes away from you*GG
>>544831726>hero_genericpersonholy fuck its literally me
>>544927923Heroes that run that item have Fleetfoot so they can slide and chase you at full speed retard
>>544927923>has 3 cheap move speed items so I can just hold W
>play an ascendant lobby >rightlane megafeeds and infernus has 9 kills after laning phase ends >abrams is 7 of those deaths>20 mins later, abrams is lowest souls by 5k, 1/16/7 >hover his items>maxed out his 3 and 2 only, zero resist items, no plated armor vs infernus and haze, no phantom strike, Fury Trance but no Return Fire, and power surge????????? HOW THE FUCK DO I GET THESE CREATURES IN MY LOBBY ON MY TEAM
>>544928342>>544928241Your enemies can also buy movement items>BUT THEY JUST WON'T OKOk...
>>544913312Her running around in a ragged dress might be a good way to give a werewolf hero some cosmetics to work with
>>544928742Retardnon, they will do this regardless of whether you buy Fury Trance or not, it doesn't detract from the item. Haze and Drifter have such fast base movement speeds that Fleetfoot will let you chase faster than spamming your dash jumps.
stats for that game?
>i play lash>3 counterspells, 2 spellbreakers, everyone has 40%+ spirit resist.>"well thats fine i guess good thing i have haze on my team to take advantage with her guns">look>spirit haze with echo shard
>>544927886okay i found it you may tell me >>544924760
>>544928742>enemies' only response is to run away while I shoot them in the backSounds like a W to me
>>544929184Greena wins yet again
>>544929091
wraith is such a retarded fcking hero
>>544929298Crazy that sapphire almost lost that game after being so far ahead
>>544929298looks like geist solo carried and people downplay her
The echo wraith tp was funny.The echo talon trap was cancer and you should feel bad.>>544929184>>544929298Wow I didn’t do shit.
>>544929447everyone in sapphire did well except for ivy
>>544929402if by retarded you mean shit until 40 minutes
>>544929590Ivy got walker like 8 minutes in bro
can i post a clip from that game or is it mean since the person uses here
>>544929298All 9s baby
>>544929298My bad on the call to stay in and fight guys I kinda fucked us that game.
>>544929658i'm sure it was all ivy and not the geist with 22k obj damage
>>544927923*is still in range because of my slow bullets*GG
Learning I need to trim my build to hit power spikes sooner.>>544929590Ivy was splitpushing well and had some great ults.>>544929687Depends if you’re the paradox that kept ulting me into the whole team or not.
>>544902458>created to test the viability of a forum conceptBros, is there really a chance for my shit ideas to ruin everyone's lives?
>>544929687Dew it.
>>544929687Just do it bro SG clips shit all the time (but none of the times where he gets the fuck beaten into him (most of the time))
>>544929502THE FLOOR IS LAVA
>>544929402if by retarded you mean absolute garbage, actually skill expressive with aim (unlike so many), and easily countered by any of the disarming/silencing items
>>544929658Paradox was afk in base for a minute straight, staring at their build. Their only response to losing walker was "yuh"Caption: NAGAR
S0QQHS0QQHS0QQH6/12
>>544907514Looks like Shadow Fiend, but an upgrade to what we got for sure
>>544929885Really only the first half of my builds are set in stone, have to counter pick flex after that. Shit sometimes I have to counter in lane, build is only if I have no direction
>>544929145I seriously don't get how anyone can play a hero like Lash when all the most popular items absolutely fuck him over
>>544930679he's fun
>>544930348hrmmm I think I will try spirit drifter
big band hero when
>>544930661Oh yeah I have a lot of flex in the mid-late it’s just I tend to fill up with tons of t1&2s and then upgrade to higher shit instead of, like, rushing a boundless or whatever.
>>544929885>>544929941
S0QQHS0QQH11/12
>>544931094KOBE
Geez, I know people said fire rate doesn't affect the burst rounds but I didn't know it was this bad. With +100% fire rate, which is effectively 1.5x her fire rate Paradox empties her clip...a burst and a half faster. Now granted Paradox is worst case scenario since she has a 5 round burst compared to the other 3 round bursters but it still shows how useless fire rate is.
>>544931172i wish the filesize limit wasn't so stupid i didn't get to include the contesting with no hp for like 15 seconds before that
>>544931094>increased FOV cheats
Sheesh, I guess I'm buying bullet resist.
>>544931210And this is a normal shooting gun for reference. In the bottom version she empties her clip at nearly the exact half way point of base haze's clip.
>>544931375i am new to the game (late sept) and didn't know that was cheats, also that hud stuff i just learned about yesterday so i am using that too since i' mjust assuming everyone else does
>>544931094>midboss and buff timers>gay ass skin>plays fortniteyea that’s going into the inhouse pseudo-F tier
>>544931419NOOO YOU SCARED OFF ONE OF THEM
>>544931094Oh it’s you good shit man I was wondering how the fuck he died before you said.
>>544931513i said that as a joke
>>544931094Nice, better than my longest barrel
>>544931210Test Sinclair,vm0ag it affects the time between bursts and his is the longest so it should be the biggest difference
>>544931691Try not to use sarcasm based humour most autists/yanks don't understand it
>>544931375thanks for reminding me bro, I knew something felt off.
need one more S0QQHS0QQHS0QQH
>>544927749Like I said, blood tribute and vampiric lifesteal also provide exactly 40% fire rate but have better bonus buffs and provide other more useful stats. When fury trance is off cooldown, the only benefit you're getting is 6% more lifesteal than just basic bullet lifesteal. Not being able to chase or use abilities is a massive downside. The buff is completely pointless if someone is able to kite you or do something else that wastes the buffs time. Blood Tribute is literally on demand 40% fire rate with a giant move speed buff, 50% debuff reduction is also really strong. The non-active stats attached are very nice too. >>544928241Not full speed if you're taking damage numbnuts.>>544928342>3 cheap move speed itemsThen you might as well have bought vampiric lifesteal instead of needing to take up 3 slotsand like that other anon said, you're not the only one with movement. And any movement abilities your character has? oops sorry can't use them because you're silenced!
>>5449314194/6 is spirit
which characters have the best mobility?
>>544920571i argue for the benefit of the audience, not the impenetrable retards i oppose
>>544932143well yeah the audience can see every armor and ammo and gun being picked up instantly and timers being tracked but the opponent isn't gonna know that just by being in the match they'll just get stomped which is the same thing
>>544932065Mina pocket lash holiday vicious, unless you mean only movespeed then seven gt vyper
>>544930679hes funs but you're right. hes in a really bad spot right now and only works if the enemy team is retarded
>>544932065kelvin
>>544932065holliday easily
>>544932740>lowest stam recov
>>544932331i agree, i don't think smurfs are at all educational for the people they play against
>>544932953it only works if it's close, like MGE to LEM in csor like arcanist to emissary but in all those examples anyone being emissary smurfing at arcanist would suck just as bad basically
EU inhouse when?
>>544933120exactly, it's about having the tools to comprehend the actions and mechanics that separate you from the next tier of playsomeone killing you with an insane movement trick skillshot is a useless spectacle in terms of learning if you can't already halfway execute it yourself
>Targeted pudge hook>That also does 1k damage>And also disables your movement skills afterwards
>>544932891ice path is nuts
>>544932740>ice path +mobility>freezing beam -mobilityit's basically a stun differential
>got hate from half the enemy team for sick cubes/puddle punches/doing too much damage>lose anyway because kelvin randomly abandoned 30 minutes insuch is the life of the goochad
among other high-level changes, the levelup rate needs to be slowed by about 15%
>>544934326Thats probably the way to nerf him 2bh, increase the cd a little, make the turnspeed slow af
>>544929889>Powerslave referenceKino
just delete kelvin
>>544929889>Mummy ref>Powerslave refBoring concept desu, but the vector targeting part is fun
>>544929889>prince of all egyptas opposed to one-sixth of it?
A bit off-topic but let's say a country blew up the moon and there wasnt any earth ending side effects. Would other countries just take it like a bitch? I think they might
You can never make an ice character not insufferable to fight against
I just want to slap the shit out of every worthless subhuman that plays paige and never buys rescue beam
>>544902458>>544929889Why do you people eat up every bullshit "leak"?
>>544936272hmmmm? why would you go that when she benefits from other items so much more?
>>544936271True, the ice mage archetype is fundamentally cancer as it devolves to a game of cat and mouse except the mouse has a freeze ray and ice block
Stats. I guess I was there. And great work, Ivy. Nice rejuv steal, Viscous.
>>544936482>those drifter statsWtf
>>544936272Rescue my cock in your mouth
S0QQHS0QQHS0QQH8/12 get the fuck in here!!!
>>544936482thanks. Sorry for getting mad at the end. I didn't realize everyone dipped cuz I was so sure we could've just ended and with adrenaline pumping I didn't check the map
>>544936271This, same goes for fire/poison characters. It's just going to be cancer no matter what.
>>544936714>>544936714>>544936714
>>544936674This was hilarious to watch live.
>>544936272I played against a lash-paige duo and she bought maj leap rescue beam and lash bought no mobility at all and she just threw him in
why isn't there a fucking lobby chat in this shit
>>544936659yeah it was just you, me and victor at the base and I had to help him escape because they were ganking him. Everyone else had already zipped back
>>544936482How long was I afk?
>>544902057>buys plated armor and/or disarmneat I cured cancer
Shallow Grave come back the Paradox reconnected literally the moment you quit
does vampiric burst work on split shot?
>>544946553Yes.
>>544946823Thanks.
