Previous: >>544814321>What... is this?Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ>Where can I watch the cup?https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html>Current Cuphttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2025_4chan_Autumn_Babby_Cup_Qualifiershttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2025_4chan_Autumn_Babby_Cup>Upcoming /vg/ Leaguehttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_25>Upcoming Invitationalshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Divegrass_Before_Christmas_6:_This_can%27t_wait_a_month>Wiki:https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page>Sekkrit Code37pebis>DLC Passworddivegrass>Booruhttps://isthisliv.com/booru/>Other videoshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos>PES Infohttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2015>Friday's Matches/k/ 0-4 /an//wg/ 2-1 /int//d/ 2-2 /vmg//n/ 1-2 /s4s//u/ 5-1 /a//i/ 6-1 /lgbt//y/ - /xs//vr/ - /toy/>Sunday's Matches/vmg/ - /n//s4s/ - /d//a/ - /i//lgbt/ - /u//xs/ - /vr//toy/ - /y//an/ - /wg//int/ - /k/>PreviouslyMelties/mlp/ dies
Fuck Crimson.
Get me the fuck out of here.
Who can teach me how to groom a retarded femanager?
Your team is bad
>>544943721
Poster below is gay
Me waiting for vst and vp to git gud
>>544943772no youIts that time of the cup again, post questions for admin to answer on FBSou will be around on his phone so make fun of him for it
nth for chub
>>544943772Holy BASED
>>544944004Crimson, listen to me! The guy you’re about to face... they call him The Namefag. He used to be just another anonymous poster on 4chan, one of the countless voices in the void. But something changed. He started signing his posts... attaching his name to everything he wrote. That might not sound dangerous, but in that culture, Crimson, it’s suicide. The others turned on him. Years of ridicule, doxxing, and humiliation. It twisted him. Now he’s obsessed with identity itself. He can see who you are before you even post. If he unmasks you, Crimson, the mods are going to find you, and then it’s over.
>>544944004zoer or sangen?
>>544944004Are you guys going trick or treating?
>>544944004What did f4r mean by this?https://implyingrigged.info/w/index.php?search=a+good+pes+version&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go
>>544944004VEE GEE LETS FUCKING GO
>>544944004why are /u/ gay?
>>544944004Yeah I've got a fucking question for you
Scenarii for the spoon playoffs : -/xs/-/lgbt/ : they have to lose with the same scoreline-/co/-/vst/ : /lgbt/, /xs/ and /int/ must get a point.There's even a chance for /int/ to join a triple playoff but that's very low chance.
>>544944004are you more of an anthro or animal ears/tail only type of guy
>>544944004How big is Batista's dick?
>>544944004at what point is a team PES'd? Is 7 saves to 0 and an offside goal a PES?Should there be a PES'd of the tournament auties?
>>544944004can a nigga come up in your crib
>>544944004Does /vg/ succeeding disappoint you as much as it does me?
>>544944004Hey dude you forgot to post this in /bccg/
>>544944004Chances of Spring/Summer to be in any PES other than 15?Why are you a massive faggot?
>>544944004cipher as streamer when? a dogshit streamer for a dogshit PES
>>544944004Feelings about this PES?Why does it feel that sometimes the defence does not want to show up?
>>544944004How much longer is the cup on 15?
>>544944004General thoughts on this cupAny possible changes for Winter/SpringPossible pes' after 15
>>544944004now 15 is proven dogshit and we're free with actual new PES, can we scrap 15 and go to 20 for Spring/Summer
>>544944004Favorite cat? For me it's the manul
>>544944004when are we moving to a better game?
>>544944004Please see >>544920241Given that we got a bit of ads at the end of the stream today, I would suspect that there's a link between whatever new tech Google is rolling out and the errors myself and others are getting.
>>544944004How is /vt/ still allowed to play at this point?
>>544944004Removal of /vt/ now inshallah
>>544944004we NEED pes14
>>544944004I THINK PES15 SUCKS!
>>544944004who is the DSP of the 4cc?
>>544944004There are two chairs: one has sharp spikes on it, the other - stiff dicks. Which one would you sit on and on which would you sit down your mom?
>>544944004>>544944138That question is for QD btw.
>>544944004Rein in the /jp/ manager before other ERPfags start feeling at home, and start punishing that kind of attention whoring.
>>544944004QD, make me a sandwich
cloud
>>544944004hors sex?
>>544944004wher /f/ go? :(
>>544944004What's the contingency plan for when Sou gets disappeared to a black site in Uganda?
>>544944004What’s the process for removing a commissioner? 15 has been the biggest debacle in recent years, weedman should go, new PES for next cycle
>>544944004What does /admin/ think of this image?
>>544944004Tell me Crimson, when are we getting more news on Fire Emblem?
>>544944004can you post your funniest reaction images at >/mlp/
>>544944004How do you feel of the games so far on 15? It felt like some or a majority of the games are fairly identical, ignoring tactical aspects. Are there parts of the ruleset that might be part of that "issue"?Also, what happened to +1 gamespeed?
>>544944408divegrass before christmas
>>544944004How bitchy are you guys feeling today?
>>544944004WHAT are some bigly failing slop sliders /zzz/ could 'toss /bag/'s way in an /uma/-esque way without freaky keeperbabbying 'cord circlejerking or melty kwabbypow for PES15? Something semi TMAny kekaroo but still [Good News] like my wife zoer despite the raped page 9 gook viewership, troonsoup & POIkeks... Please, I have anxiety...
>>544944004Other than /lit/, which team(s) would you point out as ones with managers 'playing into their role perfectly'. And which of them are the complete opposite and want (team + managers associated with them) to be what they're not?Do you think that /lit/-like behaviour adds or detracts from the cup?
>>544944004When will you sub in mibibi
>>544944004when will you admit you got raped by AB15 chads and just stop coping and acting raped
>>544944405>ai raped /aco/
>>544944138>bush that goes all the way upmother of god...
>>544944004what's ur fav PES to rigging, and /f/ will come back someday?
>>544944004Is there something that can be done to improve the POI situation? I don't want the 4CC to end like VGL accepting a team with just three replies or the VTL where they allow offsite shit to play in their tournament, we should have an actual standard of quality.
>>544944004can you put the nyoner at the bottom left of the pape
>>544944592>I don't want the 4CC to end like VGL accepting a team with just three replies/fa/ was accepted with 0 positive replies
>>544944004thoughts on >>>/b/941989481
>>544944004The goalfest seems to have dropped off a little, have teams figured out how to compensate for CBs being retarded?
>>544944004the rigbot should go back to not allowing people to go into denbt to bet. it's not much of an accomplishment to rapidly climb the leaderboard just by betting against the guy who blows 1e50.
>>544944004Hi
>>544944004how can we make wrassling fun again
>>544944660thats just suule posting
>>544944004Thoughts about updating the auties with some new categories? I was thinking something like Save of the Tourney or Assist of the Tourney would be cool
>>544944004Am I schizo to believe in hidden stats in PES like 'eagerness' or 'frustration' depending on the red or purle conditions? Asking regarding of cards, missed shots, wide shots and whatnot.
>>544944367Come to think of it, he is indeed going against the "don't be a faggot" rule pretty hard.
>>544944004Which people in /admin/ were canonically raped?
>>544944004When will admin mandate that anyone using a 4-3-3 formation must use their GK on setpieces?Also, what are Admin opinions on the irc functions of the bot?
>>544944004Thought experiment:The rest of /admin/ was just killed in a horrible discord accident and (You) are forced to select 3 people to help you run this garbage fire. They can be from anywhere and be any position, even if they aren't involved in the cup anymore. Who do you get?
>>544944758remove coconut niggers, it's that simple
>>544944004How cute are you irl?
>>544944004superchats when
>>544944004please ask everyone to say "danteh with the header" and rank them against the original danteh with the header
>>544944758Replace >rape with Horsefucker
>>544944004How can I exchange my gambling rigbux for actual dollars. Please, my SNAP has run out and I'm so hungry...
>>544944004Gun to your head PES20 or PES18
>>544944004here, a rose for you crimson
>>544944004Favorite classes in RPG that you don't use all the time
>>544944004Thoughts on Hideyoshi?
>>544944004What part of California does Weedman visit and when will you switch from fucking >dicksword ?
>>544944004Season 2 confirmed, let's ghost!
>>544944004dodgers or blue jays?
>>544944004Should managers be held accountable for submitting working aesthetics?
>>544944004I LOST 50B BECAUSE JEWS ATE ALL THE MONEY FROM THE /k/ vs /an/ MATCH I'M GONNA FUCK A DEWD
>>544944004Did a black manager ever win a star?
>>544944004Onosato, Hoshoryu, or Aonishiki?
>>544944004now that the 2huminati has taken over the cup, would you make it mandatory to have at least one 2hu rep? I can already see those that do not comply will fail to promote / suffer relegation
>>544944004wich hors wud u fuk?
>>544945356HT
>>544945356JB
>>544945356JB 3x
>>544945416who would be /sp/'s rep
>>544944004supI wanted to maybe come talk about this final day but since this is happening I'll exploit this occasionwhat does /admin/ think of the idea to semi-automate rigging through a web app?It would basically automate away the rigging, timeouts, rigdio and stats exporting, unify a bunch of random shit we're using and make it talk. Managers, streamers, commentators and admin would basically make this shit become the one-stop shop for cup organization, replacing IRC and Rigcam. Most likely what would be left then of non-automatable on the day is just subs and pixel autism.
>>544945356QD
>>544944004Please ask Boris to talk loudly about the boss of the first Mario 64 level.
>>544944004Not many people know I exist and the talking to myself problem is getting worse. What should I do about it w.r.t divegrass?
>>544944004I'm gonna be honest, I voted yes on the poll because I wanted to see those sick tricks with goals, but right now, I'm not feeling this pes. please do something to change this 4-3-3 hell, the tricks are just too far in between
>>544944004Can I merc /cm/?
>>544945543no one's going to pay you for Vue.js Pajeetler
>>544944004what are your thoughts on Sou giving the fetus streamer a run for his money?
>>544945919why would you think I want payment
>>544944004FB, Autumn 25 Day 5https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqnO1pnFO_o
>>544945734Become the /biz/ or /vrpg/ or /e/ manager.Especially with the last one, you'll have somebody that knows you exist.
>>544945356Crimson
>>544944004How big is too big?
>>544944004Do you like to watch?
>>544944004Now that PES20 has finally been cracked, can we expect it to enter the PES cycle?
>>544944004Best reciepes for horse meat?
>>544944004>be shit for years to no end>lol lmao>be good on a certified working tactic>lol fraudsa win is a win, you can't say it's only half.you made this tournament to reward those who use things that work, don't hate the player, hate the ruleset.if you want >fun, then change the rules, it's that simpleI'll be laughing when /aco/ wins it all
>>544944004Basic tips on flirting?
>>544946437You should be asking Pilky that?
>>544944004The PES 15 experiment was amusing, but now, what are we actually planning to use for Winter and Spring?
>>544944004gimme a hug man
>>544946217Watch what?
>>544944004By me
>>544944004Since /gd/ promoted PLEASE FUCKING CHANGING KERINING FROM THE /pw/ MODEL? Just give him his OG model already. The /gd/ caretaker obviously isn't going to fix it, I'm tired of seeing Masked Kerning.
>>544944004thoughts on trickcal chibi go?
>>544944004What garbage is the dorito pope gonna shill at the game awards
>>544944004Why didn't Sou sign up /4ccg/ for the VGL?
>>544944004Learn Chinese already
>>544946761ESL lole.But on a different note, please consider making yellows permanent.
>>544946814>he doesn't knowThe tasteless retard otherwise known as /v/'s newest manager already put it on the team
>>544944004how come moot don't want us man?
>>544944004qd commentary be like: yeah. yeah yeah. yeah? yeah. yeah *hehehehe* yeah yeah
>>544947043who?
>>544944004what do you say to this man
is FB getting archived anywhere? I don't think I can stay for the whole thing tonight
>>544947114Old man is going senile.
>>544944004This is a black thing, isn't it?
>>544944004Before every match, roll a die for each team that decides what their conditions will be. 1 is random condition, 2 is purple, 3 is blue, etc. Why? Because it would be funny.
>>544947236if you get the link on your browser history you can rewatch anytime
>>544944004Can you explain why the VGL's at fault for some of the must win copying exports at all cost thought process? Not really disagreeing I just always associated that with the /mlp/s and /sp/s moreAlso when will you sign up /4ccg/ for the VGL?
>>544947236Youtube >>544946053
>>544944004I like the betting but these numbers are fucking stupid
>>544944004Show us your butt!
>>544947114Sure but QDs play-by-play is the best in the cup honestly
>>544944004What spooky movie did you watch for halloween?
>>544944004please kill marcoz and his fucking cancer bot
>>544944004Does anyone else have any pre-game/pre-cup good luck rituals?Personally I shave my pubes into the shape of a down arrow, I figure that this puts my dick in purple condition and makes it that much less likely that one of my medals rolls it instead. I won't say how long I've been doing this but I will say that it has worked the entire time.
>>544944004I need to go afk, can someone (You) me when the questions start so I know the time difference?
>>544944004what other plans are there for the cytube bot?
>>544944004Remove managers
>>544944004MISTUH MERRICKUUUUUUUUUU WHY ARE WE NOTTO IN WINTER26SU? IF YOU DO NOTTO GET /VP/ OUT OF SPRINGSU26 THERE WILLSU BE BUGSU IN ANUSU AWAITING FOR YOU
>>544944004What is your go to Burger King order?
>>544947494betting central bank is on it
>>544944004It feels hypocritical to criticize teams for using successful tactics while also shaming them when they perform poorly or try something original that doesn’t work and get labeled as bad on FB. Could there be rules to encourage creativity instead?
>>544944227/mycat/
>i booked next weekend off work thinking 'ohh theres no fucking way we'll lose to /gd/' i am LOSING MONEY on this HORRID GAME
for the /RAT/ manager, if you need help with aes for DBC hit me up, anything for the rats, my contact info is in the wiki.
>>544944004butt it's butt, butts, your butting butt. butt buttn't butted me since the butt butt. I'm abutt to butt away your butt unless I butt you butt the butt and butt an butt butt in the next 30 butts
>>5449440041) do girls stop after their orgasm or do they keep going until squirting?2) is the squirt kind of like a second orgasm?3) what % of masturbating sessions ends up in squirting?
>>544944004Johnny Horsefucker hereWhen J F Kennedy was assassinated, his wife Jackie wore her blood-stained dress the whole day afterwards to show the world what America had done to her husbandWhen /mlp/ got relegated, I vomited all over myself and I wore that the whole day just to show the world what /mlp/ had done to me
>>544944004can you ban >>544948194
>>5449482051) Depends on the sensitivity of the girl, most can go for multiple orgasms, but most don't squirt2) Squirting is a rare thing, but if they do, it can just happen with their first orgasm3) I have been with a lot of women, but only one of them ever squirtedAlso, it's just piss
>>544944004How big is each of /admin/ members dick?
>>544944004What is the name of the shiteyanyo goalhorn the /jp/ manager is a faggot who doesn't update the wiki and in their export it's just called "shiteyanyo-hand"
>>544944004can you castrate >>544948194 already?
>>544944004Can we make the bot commans not on the man chat.Like , to bet, just whisper to the bot.Have the bot just announce the results and top betters.I don't mind the betting I do mind the tons of !bet flood in the chat.
>>544944004i will be back, have a good night
>>544948573Omoi - Teo
>>544948573https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmkY2yc1K7Q
>>544944004Which team are you looking most forward to in DBC?
>>544948194mating press rats
>>544944004Off field what are the most competent management groups?
>>544948753>>544948681thank you
>>544947992>blaming the game>post ends in 992Classic.
>>544944004https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cerkDJLuT_k
>>544944004
>>544944004Why does /mlp/ still exist? Can't they just turn into an /uma/ board already?>But anon, we don't need another horsefucker board!That's where you're wrong, bucko! WE'RE A WEEB BOARD NOW!!!
>>544948478You don't really want to know about mine.
>>544944004Train A starts in San Francisco, and travels west at 300 miles per hour.Train B starts in New York, and travels east at 20 kilometers per second.Birmingham and /admin/ headquarters are 150 Fahrenheit apart. Where do the trucks meat?
>>544944004Hey /admin/, why does Homulily have a grammaphone for an ass? I don't care about the symbolic meaning, I just want a /sci/entific explanation of why her ass can play music out of it! And yes if you have to you can bring in one of the /u/ managers. If he cannot answer this question, then he can put up his /u/ management position on the line tomorrow as punishment. If he loses, he can fuck off from here forever, and all his "accomplishments" will be erased from history.NO BALLS
>>544944004Could we have a section on the wiki page for each cup saying which versio of PES is used? Like, above the results on the right. We're flip flopping so hard it'd be nice to know on a random cup which version it is. Right now its hard to tell.
>>544944004Why is The_Cumson_Man so gay?
>>544949928Because he's fat.
>>544944004sorry KEKson but us XMASCHADS are taking over and there is nothing you can do to stop us besides coping and seething relentlessly
>>544944004Please rig the draw so Rance and Kanami play against each other.
>>544944004Why the autumn cup is played in spring?
>>544944004Is it true you were the dollposter? 4ccg can't stop acting raped about him and always accuses him of being you
>>544944004Where did the doll touched you?
>>544944004whos the "potential man" of the cup?
>>544944004remove managers and only let the /xs/ and /y/ managers manage every single team
>>544944004play this immediatelyhttps://files.catbox.moe/tgbwzc.webm
>>544944004What could you propose to encourage more creativity and experimentation and have less people going "lmao4-3-3/4-4-2" w/o banning 4-3-3/4-4-2 come Spring/Summer?
>>544948976Damn, someone beat me to lewding Kerning
>>544944004Early picks for Best player of the tournament, Worst player of the tournament and Pulitzer?
>>544944004who's going to stream the spoon blayoff?
>>544950843More than one person can lewd Kerning. He is cylinder shaped, just saying.
>>544944004Within the last 5 years, Winter cups have produced more memorable elite underdog runs (Winer 19 /3/, Winter 21 /n/, Winter 23 /t/) than Summer also interesting that these all happen 2 years between each other, why do you think that is that Winter elites seems to have a tendency to give more memorable underdog runs than Summer Elites? And I mean memorable underdog runs that go past QF so Summer 25 /r9k/ doesn't count.
the ask admin segment is starting
hear me out:/int/ 5-7 /k//xs/ wins/lgbt/ wins3 way spoon tie
>>544944004Please shout NIGGER as loud as you can
>>544944004"/mlp/ is the only board on 4chan left with any recognizable board culture. They have more events, meetups, and websites than all the other boards put together and had a convention for three years". They're the only board that actively cares about keeping Anonymous represented. Every other board is astroturfing and Twitter 2.0 shitflinging, and when confronted with something even slightly nostalgic starts shitting their pants with pleads to "retvrn to tradition" or whatever. /mlp/ lives by its own code and I respect them for that" - Crimson, 2026
>>544950759Your options are to run 4atb, which will be 433/442 with ss/amf because 451 is very hard to make work with little payoff, or 3atb which will be 352/343 with 361 being the same. 5atb is near unusable off 17. That means for most teams, there are basically 2 team formation setups with some variations. Formations are not an important part of the cup and are not even the most important thing for tactics.
>>544944004>vgl ruins 4cc tactics>vgl ruins /4ccg/where can I go that is not infected with vg shit?
>>544951992Reddit, where you belong.
>>544951879>2026Stop leaking the script
>>544944004Ass or tiddies?
>>544952056r/4cc when
>>544952212https://www.reddit.com/r/4chancup/comments/lez5ky/tounge_my_asshole_daddy/
>>544948976artist name?
>>544944004Given the others are talking about the UI, how does Boris feel about it for Winter? Surely he will be better prepared than the babby streamers.
>>544952305>5 years agobros...
[version news] sou says 1.12 is on the table
>1.12
>>544952361
>>544944004why did 15 rape Bong?
>>544952850akkolel broke him
>>544952759[version news followup] crimson confirmed foreground's next goal is unironically getting 14 working
>very gay league
[Good News] /admin/ blames themselves for the transition to 15 being bad[Bad News] /admin/ now seeking to use 14 next
>>544945417The one in this picture
>>544952961But why though? Seriously, but why though?
>Cogshit HUMILLIATED by FB and as a result the whole VGL takes the blame for his stupid ass.
>>544951947>5atb is near unusable off 17Is 17 the most 'anything can work' PES?
>>54494400418 when? 20 when?
>>544944004Funniest greatest escape you have ever seen in 4cc history including memevitationals and/or vgls?
Sometimes I forget that Crimson is a VGL streamer who also appears on ASS. Complex person.
nurture lolcows and they will get your tournament humilliated
>>544944004Boris, what went wrong with /co/?
>>544944004Rank /admin/ in order of TOP to BOTTOM, /y/ style.Then have Sou ask for them to be called to his gate.
>>544953165qrd?
>>544953492He said something like "can you make 14 not look like ass" and they dunked on him,This is the kind of guy you want to avoid because he only weakens your side.
>>544944004Why is this not a bird?
>>544953492Cog asks if the cup can use older PES versions without the aesthetics looking like shit. Crimson says only the VGL cares about aesthetics, and 15 haters are all VGLkeks upset about their version poll.
>>544944004Is a taco a sandwich?And will you make me one?
wataya playan??
>>544944004Do a barrel rollalso send sou to uganda>phoneposter
>>544944223bong post
>>544951419This is very true
>dumped into the same basket as mercbitchit's over, this is actually a thousand times worse than getting spammed with raped or that doll
>>544953674Boris will seethe about this post and say it's not a bird
>>544944004Dorothy Batista, Dorothy Batista. Please call 62424.
>>544953682Crimson is a baby but it's really easy to blame it all on "VGL cunts" when this total newfag walks in with the stupidest posts ever. Fucking retard should be perma muted too until he lurks for another 4 years.
>>544944004>>544953674>>544954018Next he'll try to say these are not cats.
[rules news] sou is seriously considering 5 medals (and 3 subs) for cup cycle 2 on 15 and possible stat nerfs on all medals where golds wouldn't be on 99 stats anymore
>>544944004Where's Dorothy?
>>544944004QD forward this pic to Streak pleasehttps://cdn.donmai.us/original/a9/c3/__hiyori_kotori_and_tsukuyo_blue_archive_drawn_by_gya_rb__a9c32196fe8ed7d18d89a601b3e5e43f.png
>>544944004For posterity's sake, I don't like 15 because I find the play patterns either hopelessly boring or very frustrating.
>>544954000
>>544954329right here
>>544944004thoughts on the doyers winning bigly?
>>544954160>no tailYeah, not cats.
>>544944004We all know that 4ccg is mostly anonymous, but that doesn't mean you can't autistically notice certain patterns in postings, so do any of you have any ideas/guesses to who some of the people who complain the most about /admin/ are over the years?
>>544944004oh nohttps://files.catbox.moe/l78v4f.mp4
>>544953682>and 15 haters are all VGLkeks upset about their version poll.That's honestly pathetic. From both of them, but come the fuck on.
>>544944004Any changes planned for Winter? Or do you run as it is?Any other restriction coming for the models that involve punishments?Are you willing to look for a patch that just fixes PES15 UI?That is all.
>>544954792He is so out of reality that he disregards the poll with mostly 4cc managers voting "no" to his retarded poll. Still fuck mercbitch for being a retard.
>>544944004Wheel of PES when?
>>544944004latin americans were always online , remember HUEHUEHUE? that's an ancient meme, but everything went to SHIT when the SEAGGERS invaded
>>544944004Aren't you all NEET? How the fuck do you manage to still live with no mony?
My opinion of 15 improved after the cup started
>>544955393This + indians
>>544944004why won't you guys notice the poll results: >>544954884
>>544944004Shiddy
>>544944004When are we getting v-tuber avatars for the streamers?
>>544955490why is she naked
>>544944238Just a QD fuckup apparently. No monetised cup streams yet.
>>544944004Are portraits theoretically possible on the PES 15?
>>544955804Strip Mahjong and its consequences
>>544944004best DBC team?
>>544944004Which is worse with offboarders, /vt/, or /lcg/?
>>544944004When is /trash/ playing?
>>544955490it looks just as shit to me as it did pre-cupevery single goal is the same center throughball into 1 on 1 with the keeper
>>544944004KEEP PLAYING THE PIANO CRIMSON
>>544944298>Gio is DSP>Maydave is EDP>Half is Chris chan.
>>544944004who's the LTG of the 4cc?
>>544956783They are afraid of Half because he told them the truth.
>>544956853BoB>immediately malds at every loss>never his fault, always Git Gud or the PES version>bans people who make him mad after the loss
>>544944004i come from the future in the bongmissioner era, what's the cup like?
>>544944450You write an open letter to /admin/.
>>544944004Sou, you know what I did. Await the shitpost box. This is not a threat, its a promise.
When's wrasslin
who the fuck is the grandpa
who is that ultra fat sounding guy who just joined
sgbong explains everyone is running 433 because experimenting just made their teams lose. Crimson blames this on the VGL. HT says managers aren't trying if they run 433.
>we have to fuck PES now
Can /int/ still qualify for the Winter Cup?
>>544958076morbidly based black man HT
Bad managers currently getting mad at current managers for running the meta instead of running bullshit.
I'm actually feeling in massive pain listening to that man's voice
Sounds like HT hasn't left McDonalds in about 10 years
boomer rage
We need a VGL vs 4CC: New Generation of Plumbers invitational to settle the score.
link to the vod where sda came on stream? for research reasons of course haha
>>544958572wouldn't get off the ground because the plumbers would all want to use 15 while the ubereaters would all want to use 19
>>544958124everyone is running 433 because anyone with fucking eyes can see it's just like PES16 where lo and behold 433 was the best formation
>>544944004Literally every single board in the cup is a projection about what the board used to be or a projection, with maybe a new player about the new thing but that's it, 4cc has nothing to do with the current state of the site
>>544944562Sou said you sound raped, QD says this is what a raped person sounds like
>>544958868I'm not watching, are they actually trying to insist otherwise?
this bong heel turn plotline is making me realize im conflicted. hes making people mad i like seeing get mad for reasons i like, but i cant cheer for the lolcow
>>544958708then we gather them IRL and force them to play an actual football match
>>544944004>>544935879your thoughts?
>>544944004Can HT kill all of us now?
>>544944004Do you consider the cup and related events like FB or comfy to be social or parasocial in their nature?
>>544958868FUCK, I made a mistake in my spelling, my argument is fucking ruined now
>>544959591My liege
lollmao
>>544959706post the dose
>>544959706welcome back king
>>544959743
>>544959884I missed you so much
>>544944712Jagex style taxation will be implemented.
>>544959884Based
>/gd/ auto kills /mlp/>incoming comes back with the milkOh yeah, it's all coming together.
>>544944004Who among the remaining teams do you think has the best chance to give an absurd upset underdog run to at minimum make cup runner-up and make people potentially even consider what they were running for Winter?
>>544944004SMISH when you NIGGERS
>>544958039Anon... there's no easy way to tell you this...
>>544944820>When will admin mandate that anyone using a 4-3-3 formation must use their GK on setpieces
>>544944004whichvgwouldufug
>>544944004Glad you're keeping the skeleton theme, keep the traditions hermano.
>>544944004Will there be a garbage day this cup?
>>544944852>Tard-wrangler>Aesthetics>Crowd-pleaserThese are the categories, go.
>>544960446SOU YOU FUCKING NIGGERWHY DID YOU HAVE WRASSLIN ON THE BIGGEST PARTY DAY OF THE YEAR
>>544944004how many of you still actually enjoy the cup and how many stick around cause the cup has become your social circle
>>544944004How long is Sou's flight?
You will now remember when Craig was raised from the dead and gouged his eye out on stream this week
>>544944004Are corner 100% dead? Can't remember a single corner goal in 4 game days
[Romanian News] QD was raped by PES18
>>544959884Gracias médico
>>544961130No time to do it between now and the end of the year. I can't even do garbage day this season.
>>544945315lole u gaye
>>544944004can Sou come back before we finish the Q&A?
>>544945561I thought Sou would still be in the call.
>>544944004Italians will save the cup, the future is now, old man, you're OLD and BUSTED
>>544944004Please play this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqnO1pnFO_o
>>544944004Pilky's married what's (You)r excuse?
>>544946840many are asking this
>>544946814GTA VI
>>544944004Why is the /h/ manager allowed to add himself to a team as a gold?
>>544947232It's okay to be gay.
>>544944004MYORE KYOTS FYOR THYE STYREME
>>544944004tips for stopping my own heartbeat?
>>544964784just die lmao
>>544947650here
>>544944004HUGE SWEATY DICKS. BIG FLOPPY ANUS. HOT MEN. HOT MEN. HOT MEN. HOT MEN. HOT MEN EATING BEANS. BIG BOYS EATING BEANS. HOT MILF. HOT MILF EATING BEAN.COM.
>>544948205>>>/osrg/
>>544944004When you will beat mansex is not that hard?
Whenever I see a poi thread on a board that isn't /myteam/ I leave a disparaging comment about the cup and insist that nobody on the board gives a shit. Followed, of course, by a report to the proper authorities
MEET POTENTIAL BIRD
/vp/ is declared the potential team
>>544944004Who is the white boy of 4cc.If 4cc battled for the custody of Dominik Mysterio who would win the custody? (It can't be /pw/)
>/@/ gets astroturfed by numberPOIfaggots>/vp/ gets blownout and Bird on suicide watch>POIfags are silent nowI'm noooooooticing...
>>544944004Toronto is winning the World Series
>>544944004did you guys ever see the new Magic cards based on Avatar? google avatar cruel tutor lol
>>544944004favourite YTP?
>>544954709You should feel bad.
[BIG news] PES15 will be used for VGL26 confirmed in FB.
>>544970583FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>544944004you missed my Shiddy>>544955736
>>544944004SUUUUUURGE TWOOOO CAN ANY OF YOU GIVE ME THAT SUUUUUURGE TWOOOOO BABY
>>544970583Extremely based if true
>>544944004Salute the rabi immediately
>>544971601I salute the rabi
>>544944004Whoosh, I grant you the sweet release of death. You can end the stream now.
>>544944004I cast counterspell on the last post, you will not be released unless you flip heads on a coin
>>544944004favorite doujin tag?
>>544944004No questions will be accepted after this.(You) are free.
>>544944004What's the one question you hoped to find while scrolling through these 200+ responses but didn't?
>>544968964In six games.
>>544944004If you reply to this post after me you're a nigger
>>544972614THE GAME
>>544944004i'm black how do i fix this
>>544972680see>>544965380
>>544972658FUCKER
I'm going to lick my balls until I make a competent tactical export
https://x.com/GenshinUniverse/status/1984476973247213953
>>544973575Think you got the wrong door, the genshit club is three threads down
bros, why /admin/ hates us so?
>>544974795so you don't know?
>>544975659you tell me
Baseball is fucking gay at least I can count on my /m/ city to win
4CC team for this feeling?
Who is the Canada of 4cc/vgl?
>moneywinslol: the sportDo Americans really?
Just rake my life into a million pieces.
>>544976594>Implying footy isn't moneywinslol
Is there a bigger humiliation ritual than to lose at home
>>544979467Spooning as hosts.
>>544976594my nigger in christ you're in a thread about divegrass of all sports and saying this
>>544980681virtual divegrass is a 2huwinslol sport not a moneywinslol sport
>>544981173If only that were true /c/ would still be with us.
>>544981226They were up against a 2hu medal
>>544981281/gd/ runs a 2hu medal?
>>544981352it doesn't but neither does /mlp/
>>544981426So why was it not /c/ and /h/ who promoted?
>>544981487Because the 2huminati expected one of them in the wreckage
/vg/ was put over /vp/ because /vg/ has a possibility of having a 2hu player
>>544981738Have we started the fire?
>>544981956You weren't supposed to reveal the script, lil' bro.
>>544981956And /vp/ doesn't? The shadow Crimissioner even streamed an entire Pokémon game where you catch Touhous.
>>544982013Yes the fire risesI know I have on of Mokou in my baneposting folder somewhere
This cup, experiencing PES15 again, made me fatally nostalgic for 2015I miss those times so fucking much bros. Both 4chan and the cup were so much more comfy, had so much more to show back then. The internet wasn't constantly under the assault of bots and political warriors. Everything's changed so muchTake me back
I voted 15 and I haven't watched a second of the cup so far
Enjoy your extra hour of sleep!
>>544983392Twitter truly is our misfortune
Still can't believe /vg/ actually got out of that group. I love my board.
>9
>>544949840Here you go, now Bee
https://github.com/suikanon/16to21Upporter/releases/tag/v0.1We made a prefox to fox aes converter, please report any bugs you find if you try out this initial version.
>>544993289This vtuber is a funny one, hahaahahahahah
Didn’t know that Rindo(tm) from the Booth store (tm) was a /vt/ranny
>>544993289Cool shit, I'll give it a try later.You lads should also have a look at the simplifier (github link at https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2015/15_Model_Simplifier#Installation) since it's got a more modern wrapping which doesn't require people to have python installed.
What does BEE mean?
>>544995098it means "be the change you want to see in the world", in other words /diy/
>>544995098Broke Esoteric Ensemble
FB QRD?
>>544995195Neat, I was thinking about bees
>>544995431Everyone against PES15 is Cogbrush
>>544995659not a joke btw they actually said that.
>>544995659Who?
>>544995576they fit the meme because they're the symbol of a hard-working being, when you tell someone to bee you're pretty much telling them to "be a bee"
>>544995963The only person who is against PES15
>>544995431Actual news?PES 15 for the Spring/Summer cycle, maybe with 5 medals/3 subs/95 goldsSou would like to minimize the number of times the cup switches between a Fox and pre-Fox PES, which means a move to 14 is more likely than 18 or 20 after thatEverybody is old with bodies and/or computers that are explodingKekkels wanted to do the group stage draw but something else came up so he'll be doing Ro16 tonight insteadIf you want to know which managers are dumb and stupid or how the 15 poll was rigged by VGLfags, you'll have to watch the vod.
>>544997069>Everybody is old with bodies and/or computers that are explodingHow is it that everyone is old but nobody has money for working rigs?
>>544997069>how the 15 poll was rigged by VGLfags, you'll have to watch the vodCan you give a timecode at least?
>>544997069>3 subs For what purpose, I guess because of the 5 medals but it's kinda meh >Move to 14Lmao >If you want to know which managers are dumb and stupid or how the 15 poll was rigged by VGLfagsAdmin is pathetic.
>>544993289ew 21
>>544997069>which means a move to 14I think they're actively trying to kill interest in the cup so only their circlejerk audience remain. They got too big and they don't like it.
>>545000274works for 19 too
>>545000654What about the hot new PES, 20?
>>545000248https://files.catbox.moe/7ifdod.jpg
>>545000401It's a shit position to be in because the only games that don't suck are 17 are 19, both of which /admin/ would be right to skip for a while
If /lghtvb/ and /u/ draw do they both die if /a/ wins?
>>545002802Duh, /a/ would be on 6.
>>545002876Neta, I will pray for a miracle.
I'm not going back to PES14.
>>545004097no one told you to speak *rapes you*
>>545000401>They got too bigYeah, no one could actually believe that 4000+ viewer count on the cytube yesterday.
Just waiting for my next chance to rape.
Real talk, what does /admin/ do, like, ACTUALLY do? I can only think of Fore for modifying 15, f4r and Potato for hosting and hype, but what does everybody else do?They will openly admit that they don't ever lurk this thread, they never test anything publicly for rulesets (this was especially evident with fluid stuff), they don't do Aes, they never do anything technical, they don't do gametips, they basically completely gave up on POI as long as it's "something", AND they act like THEY own 4CC teams (why else would they advise that /n/ not take place in DBC? What if the caretaker was planning to have matchday threads?)Most of them seem to spend more time streaming comfy shit than actually working for the cup, and all they seem to be good for is barking commands (you couldn't have taken 10 minutes out of your day to update the cup's wikipages for PES versions yourself, Crimson?). >>545000401I am unironically starting to think this. Either it's laziness or it's malice, any time any real effort is required, /admin/ is absent. Any time there's a decision made they never ask anyone and it's always the most dogshit, lazy decision that is more work for everybody BUT them.
Your DBC6 teams. Thoughts?Changes made by baka managers:- /ribi/ out for /tsab/- /HoloEN/ out for /kotFC/- /n/ out
>>545009563i forgot to sign up can we have a redo
>>545009354/admin/ needs to be as numerous as they are to manage /aesco/, obviously
>>545009354You got raped Bong
>>545009563>/rats/ last year>/RAT/ this yearDamn, so only one of them survived the trip to Brazil
>>545010575Try again.
>>545009354>>544961141
dbc slots some time next week, deadline for everything is 30th november but 1-3 days extensions can be given if communicatedif you already have any group ideas shoot them at me, /4ccg/ - /BEE/ is a given tho>>545010017If you don't have a main team yet you can sign up under backups, they get priority over secondary sign ups and I doubt the 48 currently signed up teams will all submit
I kill God
>>545010994/RAT/ has a Black Souls character on its roster according to their manager's aesco posts so they could be paired up with /wonderland/.
>>545010935Did they actually answer this question or blow it off
>>545011509they may as well not have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7vWv3wUyP4I have stood knee deep in the testing trenches and filled nets with central throughballs. I have seen two teams drop out. I have lain with the holy 433 and copulated with backpassing. I have self replied for my POI; I have downgraded my aes for a game where uvscroll never will be and starved the audience from good aes. A player's aes broken because of a rushed porting tool. A rigged poll on the 'cord. The viewers... The viewers, Crimson, bored and crying and annoyed and starved and repulsed and protesting and leaving. *This* is your coming cup! They will rape you Crimson, they will make raped of you all and they will bury their keks into your face and they willRAPEYOURCUP!
>>545009354I'm pretty sure /admin/ at this point is more of a tightly knit circle of friends than an actual decisionmaking body which is why you never hear from half of them and the other half sounds like they want to die (Boris in particular but also Crimson to a lesser degree).I feel like the 4cc could use a turnover so that decisions end up (at least partly) in the hands of people that aren't constantly jaded and miserable, but sadly the community around the 4cc has been shrinking cup after cup so maybe the status quo is the best option even if less than ideal.
>>545011509They pretty much said "we do interact with people outside the cup and we are involved in it because it´s still fun for us"
>>545012186totally made up estimate but I think that to organize a 4CC event it takes, all told, about 50 people, between admin, aesco, managers/caretakers, commentators and tech people, and that's just people that are actively involved. With 300 viewers that means that AT LEAST15-20% of all cup viewership IS the circlejerk. That's a huge issue.
>>545010852I don’t get why you would have an issue with them pointing out that it is inappropriate for /n/ to take part in a circlejerk cup
>>545009354>Real talk, what does /admin/ do, like, ACTUALLY do?If we go by the definition on the rules page, /admin/ are little more than the tardwranglers of the commish, since they can veto his actions and/or replace him (after a majority vote). Everything else can be done by the commish, /aesco/, /hype/ and the streamers, even the wiki hosting shit could be done by f4r and boris without them being part of /admin/.
>>545012659Because sure, a manager doesn't own a 4CC team, but neither do they. There's been tons of invitationals featuring 4CC teams: Akkolel, Betabowl, Omegacup and so on. Who are they to act as stewards of a board's willingness to participate in a tournament?
>>545012809Clearly that definition wasn't accounting for a possible shadow commissioner>>545013042And /f/ was also signed up to no apparent objection
>>545013042>Who are they to act as stewards of a board's willingness to participate in a tournament?This is the exact kind of problem they have with a 4CC team being signed up. A manager isn´t entitled to sign up the board to whatever tournament he wants. If the manager actually talked about doing so with the board and they agreed to it, then I guess /admin/ wouldn´t have a problem with it
>>545001005should work for that as well.
>>545013042Who are the board to decide when they don't even bother showing up to watch matches, don't have a single flair in chat and don't even respond to acknowledge the cup threads?
>>544997069Huh, i would have thought admin would see the backlash and low interest and correct ship instead of doubling down, keeping 15 and then going 14 is TMA levels of bad decision making
>>545013524So you're telling me a bunch of offboarders are more entitled to decide than the board's steward? I've seen it done with no announcement, but matchday threads to gather interest for the next real cup.
>>545013862>deletes your divegrass thread minutes after it's upNothing personal.
>>545013915No, that would be going back to 21
>>545013947/n/ has a divegrass thread that's been up for a week, the fact the team doesn't attract fans is not necessarily the jannies' fault
Fixed 18 will save the cup from pes version console warring. Trust the plan
>>544997069If they move to 14 when an unused PES is now available and useable that's in all honesty the point for serious talk about a breakaway cup with new leadership because 14 over any of the alternatives sounds ands feels more like intentional sabotage than anything else. 15 is divisive so yeah let's just go even more full retard when there's already strong opposition to the direction the commissioner and /admin/ keep taking.
>>545013915They're in their own circlejerk, ignoring people's complaining because they come from outside it. At this point a breakout league is almost the only resource left.
>>545014430PES20 is literally the same as PES21
DBC is absolutely a manager FC circlejerk invitational. If you think board teams are the same level as 23 versions of Cipher’s waifu then you agree that site moderators are correct about the cup.
>>544998913>admin is patheticyou sound raped by admin>Can you give a timecode at least?here: https://www.youtube.com/live/yqnO1pnFO_o?si=EiuDLmx6PX4lVkN1&t=17595
There is unironically no point in switching PES versions. This shit isn't supposed to be serious.
>>545014543kys Crimson. No one likes you.
>>545014613We're governed by niggers like Crimson who care deeply about being the best at a diceroll, it matters to them.
>>545014649how many times will Crimson have to said he doesn't go to 4cc willingly outside of QnA
>>545014918yeah and how do you not see how huge this fucking issue is becoming? The cup is no longer 4chan's divegrass cup, aside from spamming 48 boards every six months there is NO tie to 4chan. It's a circlejerk of old, bitter men who think they own this game.
>>545014613I like 17 because the attacks have variations, you can use different advanced effecively if you want, and many different types of tactics exports can work. If you want to look at it from a formation perspective like many people do, you could run 5atb and expect to not get blown out 3-0 for 3 games in a row. Not many people do, but you can if you want and it would be fine.
>>545009563looking pretty kino to me
>>545009563Too many vtubers and senrans
>move to 14That depends if Foreground, Tomato and Crimson want to do back-breaking aesthetic conversion work for 30+ teams, because I know for a fact many, many managers/caretakers will not do it. They'd rather will quit.
>>545016842I read this as "buck-breaking aesthetic conversion work"
>>545016842time for chadderP to give /cm/ another star
>>545010017A spot just opened up
>>545016842teams that would for sure do it:/mlp/, /u/, /vg/, /v/, /a/, /m/Sounds like the cup admin wants to me!
>>545016842shan't be installing personally
>>545014543>circlejerkYou guys love to use this word so much I don't know what it means anymore.
>>545016842I'm not quitting if they try and push ahead with 14 in spite of the obvious resistance from managers and caretakers and rising general disinterest in constantly having to fix and unfuck everything for further prefox experimenting because muh nostalgiafagging and making work for managers funny. I'm starting a breakaway cup and inviting teams, aestheticsfags, the hypfags, code monkeys and aesthetics members of /admin/ to join it. Hell if I have to fucking pay for the hosting for a new wiki and hosting a fork of isthisliv and hosting for other cup infrastructure I'll do it because enough is a enough. I'm tired of seeing the cup slowly decline and be the plaything of /admin/ and I'm tired of the constant cutting and changing versions. If it keeps on then it's time for a new cup, a new system that gives managers and caretakers more say in what the cup does and a new leadership team that aren't so jaded and disinterested in what the competitors who collectively make their cup want.
>>545017684chadderP...
>>545017684lol lmao
>>545017684might unironically join this, /admin/ needs to learn they are not irreplaceable
>>545017684If you will bee I will follow...
I don’t think 14 will be a thing
I don't wanna do a breakout league but maybe I DO want to do a cross-chan international meme league that isn't so goddamn tryhardy and jaded.
>>545018068>cross-chan international meme leaguevtl exists
>>545017684ok, but don't be a faggot, keep your promise and BEE.I'll gladly join but I can't join something that won't happen because someone will be too lazy to act.
>>545018110kekypow
>I don't wanna do a breakout league but maybe I DO want to do a cross-cha--
you can't even run PES 14
The /vt/ League is ______
>>545018232blooming, the cracks are receding
>>545017684I’m for it but >and I'm tired of the constant cutting and changing versionsA lot of this is driven by managers getting sick of a PES version. If it were just admin, VGL wouldn’t be doing the same thing.
>>545017684I legitimately do not think something like 4cc can be replicated from the start again, it has been by some miracle that the cup has lasted has long as it has and has endured the kind of controversies that in any other community would've torn it apart. I don't think that miracle can strike again.
>>545018190I just want to watch ylilauta to face off ptchan after beating the bilibili PES autists and before meeting the icup'(s revived corpse). is that too much to ask?
>>545017847You can laugh all you like, but there are people around with the willpower to do the heavy lifting here and that could fund it.
>>545018572VGL will finally become the biggest divegrass tournament
>>545017684you won't do shit no matter how bad it gets
>>545018572I'd host the wiki, the rigcam and whatever else is needed for it, day zero. Fuck it at this point.
Not taking everything so bloody seriously is and always will be the way to go.
>>545018723Start contributing now then and people might take take you seriously. Hell, if you do a good job of it you might even be able to reign in admin before needing to split the cup in two. Please keep in mind that a lot of people do not necessarily agree with your vision of the cup as outlined.
>>545018858adminpost detected
Brother why is everyone so on edge?
You niggers won't do shit
>>545018858Ok>submit dogshit untested tactic and aes because can't be fucked with shitty new (old) pes>get banned for breaking the acting in the team's best interest rule
>>545017684You won't do shit faggot
>>545018878/trick/ wonned
>>545018976Dude fucking PLEASE don't BEE me, have you ever tried being a tech guy in the 4CC? You try to bring in something you're good at, people despise you for no fucking reason. Something not 10000% perfect with /yourthing/? Welp, you must be trying to sabotage us. /yourthing/ needs updating? Get to work, scum.
>wonned
>>545019182impressive, very nice, now let's see where they're gonna end up in january.
>>545019343frog losted
>>545019008God no, I hate them with a passion. It's simply not that important.
>>545018341It's about willpower and bringing over the people who can do the technical heavy lifting and there's almost a critical mass of those kind of people who are getting alienated with the current leadership and direction of the 4CC. It's feeling more and more like the cup is held to ransom who want the cup to be something frozen in amber and stuck exactly as it was when they joined or liked the cup most with zero mechanism to remove any of them. Managers, /aesco/ and even /admin/ are divided, this is not like in the past, there is almost a large enough group of disgruntled people that the cup could probably split and reform in a new format under new leadership and either absorb or eventually replace the original cup that is hellbent on staying on a terminal course.
>>545019542I think you are being too ambitious and idealistic for your own good, but I am open to being proven wrong if you can actually legitimately recreate the cup and keep it for more than a couple of years.
>>545019542sounds like a lot of words just to say that you are a bitch-ass nigger that can't be arsed to BEE
4cc flopped bigly kekypow KWABOTY
>>545019542To add to this, look at how a fucking nigger that should be banned and that CONSPIRED TO REMOVE ANOTHER TEAM'S MANAGEMENT with another cup circlejerk came up on first bait and was allowed to spew vitriol, falsehoods and insults just because he was a toplad from a known cup circlejerk. That same nigger basically made his co-manager run away, suffered NO consequence, KILLED THE TEAM, and is STILL not banned from everything cup related. Instead he gets to join and talk with /admin/. That simply is not acceptable.
>>545019542Some people are upset with how the cup's been handled, but if you think this translates into wanting to put in all that effort for an entire new serious event then you're in for a shock. Most would rather retire or branch out, not do whatever you want them to do, and even those that did will have ideas that differ greatly from your own. Again, stop taking everything so seriously, it'll do you a world of good.
>>545019542Disagreeing with the direction of the cup doesn’t not mean agreeing with your vision of the cup. Doing a split would just kill both sides of the split to be honest but I am being genuine in wanting you to present your vision of the cup.
>>545019880>basically made his co-manager run awayIf this is HT then fuck Scoops
>>545019880qrd?
>>545019140Watch me. There are disaffected managers, caretakes, wiki autists, codefags, /aesco/ people even members of /admin/ close to being irreconcilable with the current leadership and their direction. As many as half the current 4CC teams would probably leave and join a new cup if the alternative set out better rules, more involvement from all competitors and was more focused on growth over catering to a shrinking and ageing cirlcejerk unable to move on or accept change. .
>>545020437you won't do shit
A problem with revolutions is that revolutionaries can sometimes end up either becoming the very thing they revolted against w/o realizing it, or becoming so paranoid over previous administration and leadership that they swing too hard in the opposite direction which effectively only inverts the status quo instead of changing it. This is mostly because the revolutionaries sometimes only have spite motivating them and barely anything else on a genuine scale.
>>545020491they might, all of this reeks of vtlfaggotry
>>545020437>more focused on growthSounds nice how do you plan to focus on this?
>>545020570nahhe won't do shit
>>545020437i will join but only if we permanently stay on fox pes
>>545020437Then do it nigger, get your rogue cup going and show everyone how you're going to magically solve every problem in the worldI'm looking forward to it crashing and burning (which won't even happen because it'll never get off) but at least it'll do your nerves good
>>545020535first time listening to the revolutions podcast?
>>545020437I’d join but only if we get to change PES versions every year
>>545020437the super league is dead, florentinolet it go
>>545020535I'm not the all lowercase poster and don't actually want to break out but you gotta admit, a very good chunk of the cup's problems could be solved if /admin/ actually BEE'd even once every one hundred times they're asked to. Instead all you get is "no, we've always done it this way, change sucks, let me go back to stream comfy, fuck off, I don't care, this is fun right guys! All this negative opinion was brigading hehe"
>>545020437I’m still waiting for you to post your vision and direction for the cup.
Have (You) signed up for the DBC?
>>545020817I’m different poster as well and would be willing to consider change if it was presented. I do think a good faith push for change would be to try getting involved now and leaving a breakaway for last resort.
>>545020817well these are things to criticize admin for in the shitpostbox, or hell these are questions that could have been pointed out and given during QnA last night.
>>545021067my managerfc is ready for battle sir
>>545021165What's the point when /admin/ will just call you some variation of raped and keep doing whatever they want?
>>545021165nigger that's why we're here complaining, we asked questions and got told all these excuses from people who barely even think about the cup anymore and don't contribute at all (again, Crimson could have just gone into the wiki pages himself and edited them to state PES versions instead of barking a command. If he's not dedicated to this, why is he in admin at all? Just for a power grab?)
>progress>change>growthsounds way too semitic for my tastes
>>545021364free free the 4cc
>>545021342Shakes edited the tournament box though?
only real complaint i have about admin is whining about muh tactics variety then moving to another 433 my beloved pes
>>545021571Shakes is a top G who actually does a lot of the work tbdesu
>>545021664thisif you want me to experiment then stay on pes which likes experimenting more than others (17)
Is this all because we aren’t on PES21 with those eyesore aesthetics?
>>545020437>more focused on growththis is not possible with jannies breathing down manager's necks, they are the actual reason why the cup is in trouble
>>545021571I don't have a problem with him, and I doubt the cup would have working aes without him. I have a problem with people that are only there to make the cup THEIR thing and slowly taking it to the grave with dumb nostalgia and unwillingness to change. I have a problem with people who think entertainment is second to tactical originality (who fucking cares?). I have a problem with people that govern this thing but don't do jack and fucking shit themselves.
>>545020057Most people don't want the hassle of doing it themselves, but if someone else did and the alternative is more attractive they'd take it and move. >>545020141A split would more than likely be a short or medium term thing that eventually replaces the old cup with a new one in the longer term. Like any organisation that becomes decrepit, unable to adapt or reform it eventually falls and gets replaced by something that can once enough people organise and do it. Think of it as a Second Republic of the 4CC. >>545020491I've done it before for teams, I've done it before for invitationals, I'll do it for a breakaway cup if needed.
>>545021342>>545021296well acting like a defeatist isn't going to solve anything. What's the point of doing anything?
>>545021869You won't do shit
>/4ccg/ spends months/years begging for 17>4cc and vglel eventually oblige>then /4ccg/ proceeds to cry nonstop about cornerslop, langball and 4-3-3 spam>now /4ccg/ cries about game versions changingyou'd be whining regardless of which decision /admin/ took in that regard, because being whiny crybabies is all /4ccg/ is good for
>>545021831I don’t think anyone who has interacted with Shakes could possibly have a problem with him. I’m just pointing out that your complaining about Crimson allegedly doing something whereas it was Shakes and the motivation was clearly not as sinister as you advertised.
>>545021869Trip on
>>545021869>if needed We went from I'm doing it to I'll do it if I have too. It's already over anon
>>545022138watch out, you are going to be accused of being someone from admin like Crimson now
>>545021869You are yet to demonstrate how you would be any better than admin. Please outline your vision for the cup.
>>545020898I'll post a fully re-written rules page and draft constitution for a new cup at some point soon, compare that with the current one.
>>545022171It's not sinister but it is a pattern I noticed, not just with him, but mostly with him. You're in fucking admin, what are you doing yelling "wiki autists, go do it!". Makes you sound like an entitled asshat, who do you think you are?
>at some point soonyeah it's already over
>>545022318You're doing a whole lot of telling and very little showing right now.
Patiently awaiting a plan for this breakaway cup that isn't just "I'll make 4CC but goodly".
>>545022393I think you just don’t like the guy and have blinkers on. >>545022318I look forward to it and am genuine that I will consider it properly.
>>545021571Just for the record, I told the guy to bee because I certainly can't edit all of the last 10 years' cup pages on my own (though I'll do a few when I can) so I'll need a hand with that.
>>545022685at least you did something concrete.
so what changes are planned for this breakaway cup which make it more attractive than the current 4cc
>>545022685Rest assured that it how I saw it the entire time. If nobody else does it, I will do all the updates this week.
Somebody needs to tell this guy about icup and how trying to orchestrate a split of the tiny territory that is 4chan divegrass worked out for them
>>545022801Two more weeks
>>545022801Blackjack and hookers
>>545022801It will focus on growth and have no PES changes even though changing PES versions is something that was heavily pushed by managers.
nothe people in charge are evil and abuse their powerfuck crimson and fuck clown
>>545023012BVSED
>>545023112Bused?
give me freedomgive me firegive me a good pesor i retire
>>545022212His OP already started with "if they try and push ahead with 14"
>>545023185bussy
>>545023273If the cup is so bad and in direction of change why wait for 14?
>>545023225>>544944083A good PES version doesn't exist, but 14 comes closest.
>>545022940you know, you keep using icup as scarecrow, but it ended up having at least three "/admin/"s including Canadafag and running up until 2020 with six editions. I wouldn't call that a total failure, more like "mid-tier invitational level". And that's while eight basically exploded from under them.
Enjoy all the divegrass today anons!
why not pes26?
>>545023737or 22, 23, 24, 25? Why are we always discussing 19 or 21?
>>545023795Becasue admin is afraid of the new pes
>>545023689/els/ for an invitational when Streakie
And once again, nothing ever happens
>>545018858This is me, I just want to see funny meme models from different boards running, seeing the board culture of each board is fun.
>>545023364This conversation is getting a bit heated. I recommend slowing down.
>>545023689fat bitch
>>545024503not even that fat
I remember the last time someone wanted to make a splinter leagueand it was fucking Half
why not just do a breakout league with the webring imageboards? icup planned it, but that seems to have gone to shitseems like there's a bunch of active boards that could take to it
He stopped posting so the /admin/ thinkpol have already gotten to him. Remember, this could happen to (You).
>>545024487Please, don't leave comments if you have nothing to say.
I'd watch this to be desu
>>545025039>zzzchan/zzz/bro btw
>>545024685Maybe this nigga is truly Half
>>545024487Usecase for good PES versions?
>>545025112I wouldn't be surprised
Funny how suddenly the narrative switched to "we're make our own league" after >>545009354 was posted. Really makes you think.
>>545022801Making the jannies angrier to get more exposure to non-watchers in the site.
>>545019880This reeks of half
>>545026270is this "Half" in the room with us right now?nah man I'm just sick of oldtime /ag/ toplads getting photo ops with admin while people that want to BEE get told to fuck off. That shit shouldn't belong here anymore, the only reason it is is because he's a toplad.
Crimson really struck a nerve when he shat on the hate-watchers last nightBut also holy fuck First Bait is boring
>>545026658Hatewatchers have been raped BIGLY especially by this response to one question during FB at 5:01:50
>>545009563Rabi, kot, essex, and whichever team has that creature doro group. Or maybe HONK.
>>544954489you monster
>>545026834I'm not done with meme divegrass, I'm done with /admin/'s stewardship of meme divegrass.
>>545024186that would be pretty cool anon. but im lazy.
>>545027223You still haven't told us how you are going to fix the cup you bitch nigga
>>545027223>I'm done that means everyone else has to be done too
>>545026834I watched it until cumson mentioned the time he was raped by /aco/
>>545027508switch to any pes that isn't 2015 or below
>>545027576Boring.And then what?
>>545027508I'm not that other guy. I'm honestly thinking I should probably go off and do my own thing like VGL and VTL and stop following the 4CC as it spirals.
>>54502757616 bros we are BACK
>>545027850I took about a year and a half off from the cup and it’s greatly improved my enjoyment of the cup.
>>545022881dw it's done
>>545028396Now put which patch was used.
>>545028498mmmmnyo
>>545028227Thanks for the advice. Yeah, I did the same and came back some time ago, but honestly it is too easy to get pissed at how this thing is governed, passively, constant victim mentality (oh nooo the mods won't let us bee! time to stream comfy!), almost impossible to propose changes, no real discussion, just top-down shenanigans, and then excuses, excuses, excuses. Meanwhile commish Sou just pulls shit like the fluid ban off and on without so much as sparing a thought and we're all in this wild ride.
>>545026494>while people that want to BEE get told to fuck offWhen has this happened
>>545028396Fluff prevails
I largely agreed with Crimson's sentiments apart from one thing where he's trying to have it both ways>says /aco/ the team is the manager's preference of what /aco/ should be rather than what it is>pointed out /v/ the team would be wojaks, frogs and twitter screencaps in that case>claims it's "different" and what "actual /v/ users" would want the team to beThe problem with this is argument is the second point IS what "actual" /v/ users want /v/ to be, because that's how it fucking is and has been for almost a decade.
>>545028991It’s a difficult balance. On one hand you have /mu/ and K-pop and the other hand you have /h/ with multiple NTR and AIslop players.
>>545028991If every /v/ user that has BEEn in the cup agrees with the sentiment, I'd say that it's reasonable to say that the team represents what the board is at its core, the sovl of it.
The worst part of all this is, if you try and point out the 4CC has lost more than 60% of its viewership since World and 80% since Winter 18 and you get called a numberfag and get told the same lame bullshit story of how Sou would stream this in 2052 for 2 people, him and his tulpa. At what point do you recognize you've been doing a bad job as cup steward?
>>545029462what are your plans on turning this around?
>>545029462to be fair, how much of that 60% and 80% is because of people simply falling out with 4chan as a whole, people just kind of forgetting about the cup or the 4chan hack turning people off to 4chan?
It's time to simply go down to two 4cc events a year. Too many events in the 4cc is causing it to become stale.
>>545029462It's not /admin/'s fault that you are not allowed to talk about 4cc outside a specific set of boards, or that 4chan has been going down the shitter to the point activity on most boards has been declining, even on the ultra-botted ones like /pol/
>>545029359If every /aco/ user that has BEEn in the cup agrees with the sentiment, I'd say that it's reasonable to say that the team represents what the board is at its core, the sovl of it.
>>545028991/aco/‘s team is a lot better than a few years ago and I don’t think Kermit’s efforts get appreciated. It does still feel that the team is a bit in denial about what the actual roster is compared to the other porn boards but it’s no different to half the cup.
>>545029462That is an inevitable result of moderation. /vg/ is the only regular source of new blood and most of them care more the VGL.
>>545028991You don't have to like /aco/ and you can hate /aco/ (I do too) but the way /admin/ and especially Crimson take every opportunity to shit on them publicly is really shitty
>tipping/vmg/ wins 3-1/d/ wins 2-1/i/ wins 3-1/u/ wins 3-1/vr/ wins 3-2/y/ wins 2-1/an/ wins 3-1/int/ wins 3-1
>tripping balls/vmg/ 3-1 /n//s4s/ 1-4 /d//a/ 3-2 /i//lgbt/ 1-3 /u//xs/ 1-3 /vr//toy/ 2-0 /y//an/ 2-1 /wg//int/ 3-1 /k/Spoon playoff /xs/ 8-7 /lgbt/ (doesn't count)
>>545030094I don't browse /aco/ but looking at their top threads it's mostly drawthreads, wegs and western vtubers threads, while /h/ fastest threads are mostly AI sloppa, NTR and skeb commissions threads, and both teams seem to represent that as well.I don't know what guyf personally likes or if he is manager fcing some players, but I have seen him doing polls for /gbpen/ so I don't believe he is a bad manager.
>>545029462"line must go up, Shmuley Shekelberg says so"
>>545029632Freeze all this tryhard bullshit to a sensible PES version and ruleset for at least two years if not more (17 GSSBB, 21 with a patch that is solely entertainment focused or with TMA's silly recipe, something like that). Abolish pixel autism (you already get 6 formations with fluid). Make timeouts slider only and faster. Rigtime managers.Three 48 team world cups per year, as was the Shakes proposal of yore, with harder POI boundaries and qualifiers only if teams > 48 and there's no suitable format. If teams < 48, then /admin/ HAS to gather poi for any team that has no caretaker but that they know has/had a fanbase THEMSELVES. No more "lower tier" shitter events that nobody fucking cares about, any team can get a star. /admin/ gets some legwork for once.Allow and endorse more offsite gathering of POI (this is inevitable because of moderation, and it's hypocritical as shit that /admin/ is completely offsite and never comes here but demands that managers do it), BUT you should at least *try* once every POI cycle onsite, perhaps even airdropping your dicksword there and then liberally discussing divegrass, if you always get banned.Anything that helps and streamlines cup organization gets an auto yes and isn't looked at with suspicion. Any cup-related event (say, 4CC rasslin or F4CC) gets prioritized. Anything that aids cup presentation gets prioritized (for example, running the final in Cup mode. I don't give a shit if you think it's rigged, that's voodoo bullshit).>>545030604Crimson is just big mad at him because how DARE HE NOT BE TACTICALLY ORIGINAL!!! who fucking cares?
>>545028991>pointed out /v/ the team would be wojaks, frogs and twitter screencaps in that caseThe false dichotomy that suggests that renewal of /v/'s decade-old roster reps would automatically mean wojaks and frogs is retarded. Did anyone cry about E33 being represented on the roster?>claims it's "different" and what "actual /v/ users" would want the team to beI don't really care for /v/ so I'm not familiar with their polling methods, but knowing how many teams deliberately tamper the polls or results to prevent specific reps from getting in or existing reps from getting booted, I wouldn't take that for granted.
>>545031104Line doesn't need to go up all the time, but line going from 2000 to 400 is a pretty big change.
>>545031250if you want numbers to go up that badly then feel free to campaign for permaelite /mlp/ and /sp/
>>545018704>VGL will finally become the biggest divegrass tournamentmight legit happen in like 5 years because >jannies and boards keep getting slower while /vg/ is more dynamic in a sense that a new team can pop up every league
>>545030604I think GuyF cops it for the sins of past /aco/ management and for regularly beating popular teams.
>>544997069>search through 4ccord history>Cog as far as I can tell has never joined it and didn't vote in the 15 pollWhere exactly is this coming from? More schizoing about namefags?
>TMA's silly recipe>Allow and endorse more offsite gathering of POIOh no, it's a /vt/ nigger.
>>545031185>offsite shitOk you lost me. Get a better plan next time.
>>545031250blame /b/ for raiding and destroy /e/ during a cup
>>545030308>the way /admin/ and especially Crimson take every opportunity to shit on them publicly is really shittybut everyone thinks it's hilarious and wholesome when vglco spams the reddit emoji whenever /gbpen/ is brought up
Shartycup fucking when?
>>545031825Because it's a meme and like half of them don't actually hate /gbpen/. Crimson comes off much more genuine.
>>545031659why did you ever doubt it?
>>545031104My dude, the harsh reality of it his, it takes like 50 people (a conservative estimate) to make the cup look and run as it does. With 300 people, that means 15-20% are the circlejerk. There are basically only 200 to 300 spectators. Now, you may be willing to run the cup for a viewership of 100% circlejerk, but is everyone else? are we going to pretend POI is a thing that exists when there's only 300, 200 or 100 people watching and it wasn't just manager-kun replying to himself, specially now that IPs aren't a thing?>>545031798>>545031659So what's your plan to escape 4chan's moderation? Because offsite POI is better than no POI if you ask me, and since the mods are sooo big bad that we can't poooossibly get more viewers by being on 4chan, what do you propose? that we just go off and die?
you talk like a leftard
>>545031979I’d rather die a natural death in 3-5 years then go to offsiters
>>545031940That's called banter, Crimson is genuinePeople are skipping over the part where some involved in the cup have bad blood specifically with the /aco/ manager because of the controversy a few years back
>>545032186raped
>>545031979I would much rather let the 4cc die or keep declining that let it become a cumsock for other websites. Run a cup for the altchans if you want them so desperately to get them involved.
Crimson should honestly be banned from the Cup and any related 4cc or VGL activities.Dude is a parasite that has done nothing but make any event involving him WORSE
>>545032235>>545032305my point exactly, at that point I would probably rather organize an event for people who'd appreciate it than this jaded bunch of people who would rather let memegrass die.
>>545032276(not) sorry that your father did this while you were younger
>>545031979If the 4chan event can not longer get 4chan users then it shall die, yes.Go and make an offisite divegrass event like those guys on Bilibili but don't call it a 4chan event anymore
>>545014576Holy cope, why don't they show the logs? We can see who voted and both sides got votes like that, like all the comfy circle jerk that don't manage or do anything either voting yes. Gotta make mental gymnastics just to never admit a good half of managers don't agree with you.
>>545031979Nope, the cup can die in that case. Off-siters from shitty clones can tongue my anus.
>>545032354Glad we agree anon, go on and make your 8ch cup. We'll see how it goes.
>>545032353You are mad because he gets all the bitches and you not lmao
>>545032559you sound raped
vglbros how we feelin about our commissioner/vglco compared to 4cc
>>545032354Nothing is stopping you from making your own? We simply won't be joining and that's all there is to it.
>>545032420my dude it already is. This cup would not exist without discord, and before then skype. Why is it so bad that we should try and get viewers from 4chan-adjacent sources when everything else, official and not, is run in a fucking for-profit platform that's gonna IPO before the next year is out and enshittify?
I was raped in the sweltering summer of 2022
I would unironically start watching 4cc again if crimson was banned.
>>545020437If you do it I will follow.
>>545030604Billy being on /aco/ makes no sense.
>>545032617>>545032541You know I might. It's no hard feelings really, I just think shit could be ran better. Funner.
>>545032673>communication tools count as "off-site"
>>545032436Some of those VGL guys who voted do test for cup teams as well.
>>545033061It is for 4cc PoI
>>545033061ok tell me one single way 4chan was involved when deciding cup format, ruleset, pes version, poi rules, anything reallynothing happens here, /admin/ runs from discord and loudly proclaims they don't even lurk here
>I mightMeet the potential man
>>545032883IMBECIL
/vmg/ 1-2 /n//s4s/ 3-3 /d//a/ 4-4 /i//lgbt/ 1-3 /u//xs/ 1-1 /vr//toy/ 3-3 /y//an/ 3-4 /wg//int/ 2-1 /k/
>>545032739We know TMAny
>>545028991This was their cope for allowing Blinky to exist for so long too and his lies about the new management.
>>545032883>On February 22nd, YouTuber Ringabel produced a Behind the Meme video for the comic. The video, which described the origins of the meme, received more than 7,500 views in five months. On June 20th, an anonymous 4chan user posted the comic and YouTuber Caleb's video on the /co/ board, garnering more than 55 comments before archiving.
>>545032883Buenos Dias Mandy is literally from a shitty western porn comic
>>545033278gaped
>>545033234I don't see the point in storming off fuming and throwing my toys out of the pram. I'll try to get in contact with icup's previous caretaker and see where that goes from there, calmly and one step at a time.
Tipping/vmg/ wins 3-1/d/ wins 2-1/i/ wins 2-1/u/ wins 3-1/vr/ wins 3-1/y/ wins 2-1/an/ wins 3-1/k/ wins 3-1
>tipping/vmg/ 2-1/d/ 2-1/i/ 4-2/u/ 3-1/vr/ 2-0/toy/ 3-2/an/ 4-3/int/ 2-1
Nothing prevents (you) to do your own private invitationals. I just do it for myself and nobody is watching and I'm perfectly fine with that.
>>545033325Sounds like authentic /aco/ culture.
It's time to call them again
Any fun matches to watch today?
>>545033920Crimson's attackers
>>545033920people can't stop getting raped by these things
CUP IS LIV!!!
>>545034051what if i rape one instead
>>545033951Group H
>>545033920damn where'd you get that many images of crimson together?
>>545031940None of them care about /gbpen/, they just hate Kermit personally
>>545034518Those are all too thin to be crimson
>>545034642they're all raped like him
>>545034718*They all rape just like him
>why does spurdo have a dumptruck assyou tell me boris
>>545034518Those are all too pale to be crimson
>>545034838SEEEEEGGGGSSS :DDDDD
>>545028227All I had to do was stop listening to FB and my enjoyment of the cup almost instantly increased. Whether it's taking a break, ignoring things that aren't the actual games, closing discord, not doing tactics for awhile, there's almost always some solution to burnout.
>>545035376A lot of the angriest people around are the ones that watch every match day, watch all the extra shit and do invitationals.
SHITkuRATS...
>>545035507The people who care the most are usually the ones more involved and genuinely want things to improve? No way.
>>545035724Take a break and you’ll be happier for it.
This would not have happened with GB at the helm
>>545035507I'm a newfag and I did that for more than a year, yet didn't develop that much toxicity.
I'm sure it worked better in testing or whatever but I have doubts about running an all narrow 343 against an ultra wide auto 532
OUTTA MY WAY GACHA FUCKING SHITS
>managers that blew off akko getting exposedakkopow!
>>545036514Akko league domination this cup
okay so next match im betting /s4s/ which will ensure a /d/ winyour are welcomed for the rigbux sirs
>/vmg/ getting absolutely GAANed
I LIKE TRANS
>>545036346Did /vmg/ even have other options? Because they didn't change anything with their subs and they're still getting owned
>>545034624I don't remember hating kermit?
>>545036514>>545036601which managers were on akko im too lazy to check
>>545037164Thought their default was a 4-3-3, and my initial inclination (big tactics brain) would've been a 4-4-2. So feel like they could've had other stuff. Like I said though I guess this just worked in testing and they didn't have any alternatives if it didn't work.
/vg/ BTFO'd
I still don't know what fulvo is.
/vmg/ deserve it for letting a gacha drama thread rep sneak into the roster, doubly so as a medal desu
autoGODS can't stop winning
>>545037183/bant/, /wsg/, /h/, /vm/, /jp/, /cm/, /vt/, /u/, /vst/
Sorry /vmg/, there's only space for one gacha gremlin team in winter.
>just don't lose by 2 to a winless autopilot>loses by 3
>>545037790And /vg/ promoted by copying the winner
>>545037883>>545037883/alg/ will get a rep for winter? Tell me more time traveler.
>>545037957trve...
>>545037883Why is she naked?
>>545037991Essex will replace Git Gud
>>545038097she's not naked, she's clearly wearing a truck
/vmg/ absolutely GAAN'd
apologize to sgboeing
>>545038771>Autopilotno?
Gommunism :DD
>>545038771new meta found; keep insulting the pes version and it promotes your teams
FUCK BEES
>>545038994>pes versionIt didn't work for me earlier this year
>>545038771apologize to sou for making an autopilot that did what sgboeing couldnt do while managing /n/
>>545038994/vg/ also advanced doing this
>>545039117/jp/ promoted and are seeded higher than /n/, sgboeing bad on any pes chuds are really taking some Ls this cup
>>545039412>Group with /bant/ /o/ and /lit/lollmao
>>545039526/bant/ and /o/ are competent teams or autopilots
>>545039412It’s the other /jp/ manager carrying
>>545039750who installed 15 36hrs before the first match lmao
>>545039750troonfeizar is alright
/vp/ and /s4s/ should face off to see who can be the bigger letdown
>>545037645Fumo + Futbol
>>545039750Actually it's because they got some testers who reined in their retardation.
I got DST'd, it's so over.
>>545040192LOLE
>>545040192this post is extremely hilarious for brazilians
>>545040110neither has ever tested in a precious cup
why is there a sgbong internet defense force
>>545040295They need something in their life, I suppose
holy shit what a joke of a group
>>545040390>preciousalso you don't need experience to be a good tester since your main job is telling the manager that their dumb idea is in fact dumb
>>545040585I just want this shit to be over to get to H
Why is there a symphogeah on /s4s/ anyway
>>545040989You tell me.
what's that? /d/ doing just enough to advance from a bad group? this was entirely unexpected!
>>545040989The real question is why isn't there a /s4sccg/ thread
next winner: /a/habeeb it, ill make it happen
Anime
/d/-/aco/ final soon
>>545041447>having faith in /a/
s4s are the bravest losers loleSee you in six months esforce.
would you take a world cup win if it meant your board would never be competitive again?
>>545041904Winning a cup once is better than none
>>545041738i liderly believe everything and nothing after how my predictions went this weekend
>>545041904/myteam/ was awful in world cup and has been dead ever since
@wiki autists, would it be possible to add a page category for PES versions?For instance in pic related it'd just add a "PES 19 Cup" or "PES 19 Elite Cup" category.
>>545041904my board peaked 10 years ago and has been at best okay ever since
>>545042542board?
>>545042520there's https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer already
>>545042146pavlel…
M-my goat....
>>545042520>would it be possible to add a page category for PES versions?I can, but >>545042651 covers version use by cup already if that's what you're looking for.
>>545042651>>545043096I'm aware, but I was mostly thinking it'd be useful for invitationals, vgl and vtl stuff. Although I'm sure that most won't bother with updating the infoboxes. But it's not a big deal if you don't want to.
>>545044042>grab the winning export from 32 17 events>run an entire cup using them>overall winner is /4ccg/'s export
>>545044403>data gets poisoned by turbo plumber era tactics and shitpost invitationals
>>545044042You could just do it yourself. I don't think anyone would complain. Just add [[Category: PES XX tournaments]] at the bottom of the pages and create the category page (you can leave it blank).
>>545044403>>545044042run the /civ4xg/ 2-5-3
>>545044730didn't win now did it
>>545044668Yes but it'd be shitty to do it without at least asking people, and there might be some wiki wizardry that automatically adds the category when you fill in the respective infobox.
/a/ is such irredeemable dogshit holy fuck
>>545045169They tied?
Beepboop peepeepoopoo lmao
>>545045169True, they need to #BringBackBlinky
Lads, when does /a/ play?
>>545045169More like /i/ are disgustingly lucky>get a goal from a defender fuckup>keeperbabby
>breakout league talk dies once the matchdays are onalmost like the niggas posting actually care about the cup enough to watch it
>>545045293That first /i/ goal was horrendous
>>545045235Blinky is the only one who can save this team
just came back from my fap break, how was the game
>>545045420heh... he just needs more time...
>>545045365wait for the next thread, there's more on it
>>545045571/a/ got keeperbabbied for a draw but looked good.
>>545045293You clearly haven't seen the first two games /i/ played
Time for /lgbt/ to commit a double suicide for no reason other than funny
mirror match in 4cc?
>>545045941if there's one thing /lgbt/ are good at
>>545045910And /a/ played a head-to-head game with them, but they get called shit for a draw? It's almost like this was a group with 3 good sides and /lgbt/
>>545045941nothing more /lgbt/ than ACK!ing themselves
>parents caught me listening to /lgbt/'s anthem
>>545046179you already made this post
>>545046039/vg/ - /lgbt/ is for another cup bro
>>545046179
>>545046179Why are you gay?
>>545009354Holy trvth nvke
>>545046179Your parents are senile and nearing death, youre in your 30s, you've made this joke ten years ago in the 4chan Summer cup.
If it was about 80 and the score line was good enough and Bebop hadn't scored. I was going to issue a challenge to the /a/ manager. Move players as far away as possible and OOP as possible so he could score.
I hate how catchy all of /lgbt/'s music is
Why is this team so much more gay than /cm/, /hm/, /y/ and /u/ combined?
>>545047145That's throwing and would demand take wins away from /i/
>>545047346that's because you're a faget
>>545047384because it's actual gay people and not people who just want to see gays fuck each other
>>545047384Because they trooned out and have AIDS
>>545047442Wanting to see gays have sex is pretty gay
>>545047507/u/ really did that?
>>545047565'd 'o
>>545047565no, /vg/ did
>>545047418Thank you King
/u/ deserves to get eliminated for keeping gachashit on the team and removing the actual video game repgoodbye
>>545047930Gacha cup sweetie
EAT SHIT YURI NIGGERS
>simply don't lose to a team on 0(-6)
>>545047782jej you aight /i/ manager
>>545047782This is what /u/ management deserves for talking shit last night & earlier today.
an entire third world nation's worth of testers and managers flummoxed by fulvo
>the entire ESL third world loses to a trannyAs usual
>>545048403loses bigly*
>>545048456flopped bigly*
>/u/ and /mlp/ dead in a babbygreat cup for removing bad guys
>dogshit all tournament long but manage to get to winter anywayHaha... that's my /a/!
>>545048519Excellent, this means the good guys /vt/ have a clear path to winning a star.
>>545045169Uh, /a/ is elite?
>>545048519/vg//aco//i//h//d/
Holy great fucking escape.
Kill yourself Blinky
Just got home, did the transbian team win?
>>545048519PES15 redeemed
>/vg/ promotes to Winter>/u/ dies to /lgbt/ of all teamsI wonder how those turncoats are feeling right now
>/u/ and /mlp/ both deadWho the fuck's supposed to be the villain of Winter? /vt/?
>>545048638/u/ lost fortunately
>>545048602worth it
>>545048519And Alex can't say it was bad luck for this like /mlp/, they got straight up outclassed.
>>545048519but /vg/ is not dead?
>/u/ and /mlp/ dead and buriedwtf i love pes15 now?
>>545048563>dogshitThey should be in on 6 points my dude. They were only bad for one game.
>>545047782Fuck you sheep fucker faggot bitch
>>545048689/sp/
>>545048723He'll find managers to pass the blame on, it's typical behavior for him anyways.
>>545048837He's got plenty of options with three other managers
/u/ won 1/4 of a game this tournament for every manager they have
>>545048723>>545048953I think you mean they got gay up outclassed.But I'm waiting for Alex First autism call.
/a/ chads...WE'RE BACK!!! Thread theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njkUeAX_fWgShounenKINO >>> yurisloppaAURA >>> 1 million testers
>>545048563/i/ shamed /u/./i/ wiped the floor with /lgbt/./i/ tied with /a/.None of /a/'s games were particularly stunning but they also didn't completely slip either.
idk guys I think PES15 has been delivering
ok bets locked in for /vr/dump eet on /xs/ NAO
>>545049186yeah, shit>but muh team I dislike le lost!cool, this shit is still ass
>>545049151Trip on Discordant
>>545049151/u/ have been clowned on the last three cups in a row>clowned by /g/ in the final group match of Spring>clowned by /r9k/ in Spring>clowned again by /r9k/ in Summer>clowned by /lgbt/ who were in the spoon race until then in Autumn/u/ are just utter trash now
>>545049080based
>>545049270>results have been good>matches have been funKWAB
>>545049270This match had a sombrero goal, a corner from out of the box goal by a sub 1 min in, and a 90+ , an you call it ass?
>missed half of the matchdayAnything worth rewatching on the VOD, aside /u/ shitting the bed?
>more than a dozen managers+testers>still regularly jobbing to autos and new managersWhat is going on with /u/?
>>545049515/mlp/ already proved that running thousands of tests doesn't mean much
>>545049515Or plumbers
>>545049407woah... a corner goal? wait until you hear about pes17 with height abuse
>/u/ ded>/mlp/ dedstay on 15 forever
>>545049515>recruit lolcows to test>become lolcow team
>>545049515Rare square toilet goal + Sombrero decided to activate, PES gonna PES
>>545049515Too many cooks and PES being PES at the same time
>>545049515they all do less work because they think someone else has it covered. Probably all going "yes sliders these work into tests" to each other without actually testing.
>>545049720trip on alexyou were absolute dogshit not unlucky
All the people with /u/ flairs in chat are the worst posters.
>>545049671Apparently the stats vs /gd/ was 70% win 20% draw, but PES is PES.
>>545049515Councils ALWAYS work.
Welp this is our run this Autumn cup not a single out of player decide to be aggressive today all the changes lost and 2 rare goals a sombrero and squad toilet got us down and all those attempts we got saved not sure what else to say we get a 6-month vacation I guess we have to fucking get that spring cup to get the grand slam now that we are there, and I hope to see you all there.
>>545049963yeah and I remember that one time they ran 2.5k tests to lose and go on a 4 year elite drought
>>545048203what did they say?
>>545049720>PES gotta PESFuck you , you can't call that like /mlp/. You were 5(4) to 8(5) and you scored a 90+. Your passing was atrocious. This is on your tactics.
>>545047782Thank you ESL KingStay mad
>>545048682apparently it was a bad idea to hitch your testing wagon to a team managed by 4 ESLs rather than a team managed by 3 guys who drink monster and punch holes in their walls. who knew?
>>545050064I know /u/ is THE ESL team, but holy fuck
/u/>bring in new manager, bring in new testers>change tactics, change PES, test since a week or two after Summer>still manage to make no improvement and arguably look worse than Summer>fail to promote despite having veteran managers and backroom string-pullers/jp/>bring in a lot of new people, new testers, new backroom team>look dramatically improved on Summer>top group and promote on first attempt two of the largest council teams in this cup, why is one noticeably worse while the other is black-and-white better than their last cup in every way possible
>>545050359The /vg/ council also has ESL's althoughever
>>545050457Well this match was so fucking awful idk why but we got so many awful conditions roll this entire cup we didnt got the grand slam cause pes and homu decide to fuck us but at least we are on summer t. Alex six months ago and again six months from now>>545050537It's one thing to talk like an ESL, it's quite another to type like one.
>>545050064Is this a pasta?
>>545050468/jp/ was also in a shitter group with /bant/, aut/o/, and /lit/. Let's not get too ahead of ourselves. Group H was a lot more competitive overall.
>>545050178tl;dr he shat on old managers about how they have no room to argue about what it's like to manage a team in the cup, making him holier-than-thou above not only previous managers but new managers as well
>>545049867I am not Alex, sorry. But also, as the commentators pointed out, you've seen all cup squat toilet attempts trying to go in, and they were all terrible shots. Hell, even in the match before this one, you had a terrible attempt at a squat toilet. PES gonna PES sometimes.
>>545050537That's a rude thing to say about Streakie
>>545050178Nothing probably
>>545050864/u/ had /lgbt/ and an /a/ that aren't looking their usual selves, there's barely an improvement, /a/ and /o/ are about equvilents and /lit/ are better than /lgbt/
i booked next weekend off work thinking 'ohh theres no fucking way we'll lose to /lgbt/' i am LOSING MONEY on this HORRID GAME
>>545050537only one and he speaks and writes English almost like a native speaker until he gets mad.Üpset
guys I think /xs/ might be bad
>>545050715>make this many excuses and whinge and moan on every failure>people still sign up to test and manage for a dead boardfucking how
>>545051081>until he gets madso all the time?
>>545050875FB is practically all old managers talking shit, they deserve to get it back from current managers. How would the likes of Crimson or QD hold up today? Current managers on the other hand do need to put their money where their mouth is which makes it funny when they fail.
all /u/ had to do was have a 2hu and they'd be in winter
Is it really hard to admit that /u/ looked good in 3 matches and deserved way more points? Or you just look at the results without even thinking?You focus too much on the results, if you were to look on pure gameplay side /u/ looked solid all the way through. Even today, /lgbt/ first goal came up due of CB fuck up aside of the 2 clear goal occasions /lgbt/ didn't look good at all and /u/ kept attacking and trying.Against /i/ they were great and /i/ ran away with a win, against /a/ they fought back to back and today /lgbt/ didn't look very impressive. Admittely /a/ match was also a bit luck on their part, deep throw in + reverse kick off.Now it turns out that scoring less goals than your rival means losing. Losing is getting dominated, not winning does not equal losing, /u/ simply had bad luck. /lgbt/ didn't win, nobody sees /lgbt/ as a winner, people only respect /u/ more after that match.
>>545050875He's a faggot but still right
So since both /aco/ and /vr/ easily 9 pointed, will half of winter all be this same old /vr/ export?
>>545051372QD would hold up today, Crimson still makes good autos. Lot of the older plumbers would struggle, Myuer has consistently struggled in current vgl, blinky would be even worse, HT would be an outright /g/ or /vst/ tier gigashitter in today's cup
>>545051520half are going to be the old /vr/ export, three teams are going to be a counter to the old /vr/ export (/sp/ will do this), the rest will be some random bullshit that try their hardest to copy the counter teams after first day
>>545051237That's BoB. Reso barely ever gets angry, he just gets depressed
>>545051201It's called aura
/XS/ ARE TROWING AGAIN, WHY DOES THE 4CC ALLOW THIS SHIT?
I for one would like to crown TransCivic as the Queen of /4ccg/ for a day.
Newfag here. What is the /vr/ curse?
HT is fucking ass cancer, I cringe every time this nigger is given a platform.
>>545051803TransCivic should manage /4ccg/ in DBC
>>545051875No, it's a 9 point curse. Not just /vr/>win every match in the group>lose in the shittiest way in the first knockout match despite being the favorite
>>545051426lol
>>545051201>fucking howMaybe the army of testers shit just isn't true?
>>545051803>sacrificed for the /sp/ star in summer>eliminates /u/LONG LIVE THE QUEEN
>>545051728I can't take either of them seriously when they do that. Like I know you're both going to be fine the next day and back to trying to win, you're not fooling me with your 10th crashout.
>>545051082Extra small attack.
>>545051649The point is that old managers don't have to prove themselves, they can just sit on their high horse and shit on current managers as they like, like they did with Kermit yesterday. If stealing a good export for an ancient PES is a crime, there's going to be a lot of criminals in Winter.>>545051757That's a funny way to spell Myuer
Make a new thread
>>545051372At least Blinky wasn't around this time, which made them significantly better. Hearing HIM talk about teams is something else.
>>545052148it is but its the same problems /mlp/ had on 21 with like a dozen testers running thousands of tests, too many cooks fucked it up in the end. They improved after they thinned the pack and had less people involved
>>545052148They definitely have a disproportionate number. I don't believe any team has an army except /mlp/, but /u/ has a lot more than most teams.
>>545052230This would be fine if they didn't also have server permissions and were happy to make use of them (Brainlet)
>>545052426Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................. nyo.
>>545051803with this win, /lgbt/ have proven that trans women ARE women because nobody beats the shit out of lesbians like a woman
>>545052523/u/ has more testers than /mlp/.
>>545052523>I don't believe any team has an army
>>545052692/u/ has about 3 testers, managers included.
nu?
man, would be a shame if someone were to give these people a way to test 24/7...
>>545052448>>545052523It is says who?
>>545052523/mlp/ has less testers nowadays, i believe 4? and 2 managers. As crimson said, /u/ recruited half of the board>>545052857>managers included>they have 4 managers..
>>545053000Crimson
>>545052351Old managers already proved themselves. QD and Crimson won stars. The burden is on you to win literally anything before talking shit.
>>5450527674 people isn't an army, despite the number of tests>>5450528572 VGL lolcows confirmed test for them, you're telling me only a single one of the 4 managers also test?
>>545052941please give it to me instead :3
>>545052767JB and his lost son
>>545052523Proportionally /u/ has a bigger army than /mlp/. Crimson was correct when he said /u/ recruited half of the board.
>>545052230almost every manager that gives a damn crashes out after losing. With /vg/ it's just much more apparent because of the VGL server size and Brainlet going on banning sprees.
>>545053095So the least believable person in the cup?
>>545051512If he's a faggot then why isn't he helping out /cgl/?
>>545053128may as well support 15 and release it at this point
/u/ and /sp/ are the biggest testing teams for numbers, /mlp/ aren't what they used to be, I don't think they even more than 4 or 5 now. /vg/ is mostly the managers testing since DEN left, /jp/ have more testers than /vg/ now. /vt/ might have more testers than /vg/ too but its hard to tell which are /vt/ and which are just /u/ loanees
>>545050875That's a lie, why do you lie on the internet anon?
>>545052537All I've seen him do is mute people sometimes. Maybe I just don't use the server enough to care about mutes like I should.
>>545052426yes master>>545053356>>545053356
>>545053037Yes. To be precise, 2 managers test a lot, the external helper who's the only one considered tester helps when he can and then one manager is often busy and tests when he can. >>545053120The lowcow doesn't test at all, if you really want to know.
>>545049408/a/ vs /i/ was pretty tight >>545049515They were getting really cocky because two kekoffs vs /a/ and the /a/ manager making some retarded shit on second half, they got exposed in their other two games.
>>545051803Yassss Queen slay (the yurifags)
