New class to the rescue! EditionPreviously on /coopg/: >>544887958>Latest News/Updates:Celebrating 10 years of Tide with New Content and a New Class:https://www.playdarktide.com/news/celebrating-10-years-of-tide-with-new-content-and-a-new-classhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeaZmDtfPRs [Embed] [Embed]Darktide:Hotfix #80 - 1.9.5 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-80-1-9-5-patch-notes/114082Vermintide 2:Hotfix 6.7.2https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-hotfix-6-7-2/112401>Acknowledged but not really discussedReady Or NotStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2SCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Helldivers 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Payday 3Back4BloodDeep Rock GalacticEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Outlast TrialsThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon Bladesand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>>545182807Doesn't auto reload, that's why you're perma hovering on non-empty clip, but funnels ammo every time you switch
>>545183106Many such cases. Same with having level 1000+ or some shit. These things are coin-flips, either decent/good, or total dogshit. I'm amazed there are people that still give a shit about something so frivolous and baseless, especially since you have to equip some of it like titles.
Bound by doody
>>545183212And since it rounds up, it always loads a significant amount of armo for revolver and double barrel regardless how many stacks you haveEven better that both can capitalize big time on the forced crit WS gives tooFor other weapons its just a nice to have, rather than build defining, current tree lots of weapons would prolly benefit more from some other talents you could take instead
>>545184359bolt pistol works similarly well with it too, and I suppose some other weapons would toobut I really don't like taking that node because I rarely have problems with reloadssame with reload speedthat's only a problem with the combat shotguns, really
Official havoc 40 class rankings sponsored by Mr Estrogen:5. Zealot4. Ogryn3. Arbitrator2. Veteran1. Psyker
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>545184764Still wrong and Mister Estrogen is retarded.
>>545184764incredible image
Sometimes a mission just goes wrong during the first 30 seconds
true survivor is easier than havoc forged actually
>>545185859and usually it's because people split up for no reason
>>545186183then how come you don't have it
Dogshit players today
>>545186556actually i do i cant show you though i have it though just trust me okay?
>>545186618Don't worry, Darkdads gonna get home from work soon and carry you.
>>545185094Damn rat!
>>545187207Do it coward, you won't
>>545183669>>545185094That's it! You activated my berserk state! RRRRHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! F*CK YOU RATS!
>>545187424You wanna fuck rats huh?
>>545187470RHAAAAAA THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID!!!! F*CK YOU MEANS YOU'RE STUPID! RHAAAAAA! I'M CRAZY WATCH OUT!
>>545187798Hum actually I'd fancy a bit of peanut butter, if you don't mind
>>545187892
TRICK OR TREATS XD
>>545183031Sister of Battle?More like SHITTER of Battle!
>>545189608ENOUGH
>>545186183>>545186556>>545186653rent free
>>545189608Shitter of Butthole
>get cyrillic name team mates>they are retarded as fuck and/or terrible at the gameMany such cases
CADIA?MORE LIKE CAC..AAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
>>545190607>rats turns into a swine then a demonAt least AI aware.
would be really funny if ganger launched with no penance cosmetics and 2900 tier cosmetic sets for all the classes people thought it was going to be
>>545192125haha
there's literally a fgt who posts here just to clown on me and its one of the more pathetic things i've ever seen
What if it's one of those techpriests that exists solely for salvaging shit in the depths of hive worlds?
>>545192324/coopg/ was created by rats.
>>545192125>Fatshart implements penances >all of them require party or tied to Havoc difficulty
>>545192489Wtf? that rat is bigger than the gun, gunfags is that true?
>>545192125I doubt it, and uh next time, keep those sick jokes to yourself. Thanks.
>>545192627Yes. Once a rat gets big enough it's considered part of the American militia and is armed accordingly. Weirdly it's one of the few gun rights that New York liberals support.
>>5451927374chan is the only place i can unload my sick & twisted mind
>>545189608>>545190607You’ve outdone yourself this time. That is one sexy rat. >>545192324What is that from?
>>545193493I'm da jokah babee!
what animal represents the various coop games we had over the years?>Vermintide Rat>DarktidePig? Dog?>Deep Rock GalacticBug
>>545193726I remember helldivers being a bunch of cunty catposters
This time it's a minor gripe map section but it's a constant gripe.In the click artillery buttons train map with the scripted big ogryn fight, you are getting shot at non stop once you exit the main building. You shoot at the ranged enemies just a little, then you KEEP GOING. Stop standing out in the open trying to outsnipe fifteen elite spawn doors and the non-reapers on the train before moving forward. Stop standing up on the point of no return. The safe area is behind/inside the trains and you need to push to them.People rarely even get downed here, just one or two guys lose half their health pointlessly, but today we fucking WIPED because the team kept fighting the neverending horde that spawns from behind while getting shot at. Then a silent dog got me through a bulwark.
>>545194092You tell 'em anon! I always like the map drawings you do.
>>545193726>piglmao
>>545193726>BugHelldivers.I don't think every game has a spirit animal.
>>545193606tw rome 2
>>545193331What a great post thanks for the laugh>>545190536Can’t relate thankfully>>545193648*Jokaero
>>545194092I've always wondered after all the changes to that map, if fighting under/near the entry dropdown is possibly the best place. Never got the chance to try it.
>>545194092From my experience, the strategy is to hole up near the crates (marked yellow on your map) and fight until the director decides the horde comes to an end, THEN push. Standing out in the open is retarded, but pushing too early is also very dangerous, assuming you mean havoc.If you have a stealth build in the party, or a particularly audacious zealot, it can be worth it to slide through like a fucking maniac and push all the buttons solo, but that also likely requires waiting for the first horde to stop spawning because otherwise all the aggroed spawns might be too much.In aurics, the strat is definitely to just drop down ASAP and push the buttons, because your retards will barely hit the medicae by the time you're done sliding through lol.
>>545195292>The original main weapon of the space marines was the autogun before bolter retcon
>>545193726The pig is payday's.
>>545194092Consignment yard.
Darktide is really missing one element to make it great, like Vermintide... romance side plot when?
>>545195292are those muslims? is that france in 100 years?
>>545199948There's a fewFemale Loose Cannon + Male Seer and Male Judge + Female Professional have some flirting, along with Male Loner poking fun at Male Judge for it in a rare dialogue or two. Probably more too.
>>545199948I never noticed the sexual tension between Saltz and Sienna. Kerillian and Kruber is a lot less subtle IMO.
>Blew myself up twice in a missionEmbarrassing
WHC is exhausting to play. So many inputs a minute and you can't make any mistakes. Give me Grail Knight where I can unga bunga with 30 less IQ points and 10x the safety.
>>545200884Just play zealot.
>>545200126>Francehammer: 2100
>>545200569You think that's humiliating? I had to use the medicae on mortis trials, twice.
>>545200569>>545202419??? Why don't you guys just play better?
>>545183031what's the strongest darktide build right now? as in "me and my mates are doing auric malestrom trying to get the achievement where nobody goes down, and we want to be as strong as the game allows"
>>545183031Damn they’re hot. Can I bone them?>amputeeOh…
>>545192597good pic
>>545200126>france>fighting muslimskek you know nothing, Jean Neige
>>545200208There’s also some between Male seer and female loner
>>545203662>amputeeOh yes!
Is Dueling Sword still the meta for Veterans?
>>545204505power sword all day, baby
>>545204665foil borderless azula ($80) my beloved
>>545203389>strongestSeveral psyker builds come to mind, but since you have to ask, you definitely aren't skilled enough to make those work. They're very tricky.>easiest but also extremely effective, in auricsForceful arbitrator with dog, but actually explaining how and why that works would cause multiple major meltdowns in the thread like it always does, and I don't feel like sharing cursed knowledge tonight.
>>545203389Zealot:Getting good.Vet:Acquiring being good at the game.Ogryn: Git gut.[/spoilelr]Psyke: Believe it or not, you need to be good at the game.Arbites:Spend all 30 points in your skill tree and use gold weapons and you're set.
>>545205079Fuck my spoilers spilled I need to go I'm eepy sorrygit gut at game tho
>>545205079>>545204896Psyker holds both the highest skill builds that reward you the most for it as well as the lowest skill builds that do incredibly well anywayJust hold down smite with EP and perilous combustion it'll be as good as 2 players frontlining, use venting shriek with it and you're up to 3 players worth of effectivity
>>545204246Not all of them are retarded
I keep getting queued with missions with the shitty event modifier and lost 10 matches in a row
>>545206946Why did you keep quickplaying?
All I want for Thanksgiving is a tall glass of Stephani vat water.
>>545207136Remember to toss her some fish flakes.
>>545207015I just want the bonus resources and it's the quickest way to join a game
>>545206946How do you consistently lose in snauric? I can understand the occasional "teehee oopsie" and barreling yourself but 10 games in a row?!
>>545207258Ok well with this event going on you're basically guaranteed to join them. Do you know what the definition of insanity is?
>>545206946have you considered that you aren't good enough for the difficulty you are queuing for?
>>545207136Her VA is a 8/10 in Britland
>>545207408The term "insanity" is often used in legal settings rather than clinical ones. It refers to a mental state where an individual cannot understand the nature of their actions or distinguish right from wrong due to a severe mental disorder. The DSM-5 does not specifically define "insanity," but it includes various mental disorders that could potentially lead to an insanity defense in court, such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder or severe major depressive disorder. These conditions can affect a person's perception of reality and decision-making abilities, which are critical factors in insanity defenses.
>>545208662Be nice to Sefoni.
>>545208891Sefoni?More like SeFAT...NI FUCKFAT SHE'S FAT!
>>545206946I lost 8 times in a row on h40 silo cluster :(
>>545208724So most of this general?>schizophreniahavoc stuckies pretending to be True Survivor>bipolar disorder ratfags lashing out at everyone>major depressive disorderthirdies when you mention money>meme
>>545209000Woah BUDDY!!!
>>545209517>me
>>545208724>>545209517talk about the game or begone energy vampires
>>545208662>Got a little boner when Sefoni did the kisses in mortis trials>This is what's behind itYou've ruined the fantasy anon. Curse you!
>>545210839This is not something that you admit to in polite company.
>>545211114Anon. Look around! We have RATS THAT RITUALISTICLY MAKE POOP JOKES! WHERE is the polite company!?
Psyker is the strongest class in the game**If it has some other class there to protect them
>>545212750Eh. Not really, the flame and trauma staves make space on their own and the other psyker archetypes are either melee or smite.
How do I kill Crushers fast with the Psyker?
>>545216631deimos + skittarius
>>545215621Yes.
>>545216631Activate scrier's gays and spam heavy attacks
>>545207136That would probably kill you>>545208662>>545210839Ehhhh she’s probably looking better these days :)
>>545218318>That would probably kill youWorth it
>Have to have a premade to play Havoc or manually request to join someone's partyIt's over. That black armor is never being acquired now. Can't believe an inclusive Swedish company wouldn't factor in the cripplingly socially retarded like this.
>>545220685Their neighbour is finland, they do factor it but maliciously.
>>545220685post code and play with copegers instead
>>545220685Are you looking to clear up to havoc 25 or just getting clears? If you post here or possibly the darktide discord you can find people. That being said, most people predicted this when it was first announced
post your friend code I want to play with people who are not mouth breathing randoms. none of my friends play anymore
>>545220864FugWas replaying the Ogryn I hadn't touched since launch. Had to play fucking uprisings despite being level 30 due to the way difficulties are gated. Dukane tells me I can't havoc until I unlock Aurics. I do, then she calls me a pussy and to complete a maelstrom first. I do that only to be called a faggot next and get some friends.>>545221590>>545222691I just wanted the armor unlocks. I appreciate anyone who may be offering help, but it's not a big deal right now.
>>545224471don't be scared anon we don't bite you need 50 wins to get it so you're gonna have to confront it eventually
>>545223267Not that guy, but you mean steam friend code right?
>>545226076no he means the in game fatshark code3836005342
>>545223267>>545224471>>545226435I don't think I'm insane at the game and I'm kinda reluctant to share but people here never take the initiative for this stuff so here it is. I got true 40 and nothing to lose. On EU
>>545226743am I fucking retarded or did you forget to put the code
I'm still mad about some penances being locked to private games.>oh abloo abloo the psyker asked to brainburst the monstrosity to death
>>545226435Is this of any use realistically? You can't DM with in-game friends, right? I'd find steam friends more useful than that.>>545227756Are they all of the old ones from when the game first launched? Think I got all of those immediately so I could put them to rest. Got all of the achievements before a bunch of them got changed to be easier.
>>545203389>trying to get the achievement where nobody goes down4 zealot teamUntil Death lets you tank anything, even crusher overheads without going down, pair that with Holy Revenant and a bunch of other survivability nodes and you'd have to be a turboshitter to go down in auricbut it's also a matter of team composition, really, so try having>one guy on flamer duty>one with thunderhammer&stealth for boss killing>one with revolver for sniping specialists>one for melee horde clear(the axes and relic blade are good for this)>two of you should be running chorus for the gold toughness&crowd controlthat should cover pretty much everything, and leaves plenty of wiggle room as well for whatever else you like to use
>>545227943Yeah it's all the really old ones which makes it really awkward. I did most of them too but a friend in a completely different timezone I can't play with has been bugging me and apparently you need at least 2 people to even start a private game to do them. Is there a mod that can bypass this?
>>545227943I can understand someone being a little reluctant to put your steam out there on 4chins, but no one would feel the same way about your friend code specific to one single game. I guess?
>>545217078Kill yourself retardYou can watch a YouTube video of someone playing darktide for the same effect but it'll be a net positive because you won't be ruining a lobby by making your computer play for you
>>545227554this was me >>545226435
>>545227943you can talk in just the strike team chat but not directly no, I wouldnt just post my steam on 4chins though even if you can easily find it from my friendcode>>545228183there isn't you need 2 people
>>545208252probably just not good enough for the event missionsnormal aurics are pretty smooth sailing but I've seen true survivors eat shit when the ogryn horde shows up with a bunch of specialists and a boss
Destroychads.
How do you guys feel when you have Stealth Thammer Zealots on the team? Nice to not have to worry about bosses or more just annoying because they're not that helpful the other 90% of the match?
>>545230331>stealthShit.>ThammerDoesn't seem worth it.
>See ASS and Havoc Armor in my Auric Maelstrom>"Oh this'll be easy">Both have go down and rage quit in the first area>Have to cycle through like 5 teammates before getting 2 who stay and don't suckLeast they left. The psyker who explodes 7 times per map and goes down to chaff never leaves.
>>545230532>Have to cycle through like 5 teammatesDoesn't this game now have like a 5 minute timer where nobody new can join after this?
>>545216631fully specced brainburstdouble shielddeploy them boththen just pop themif they're all over your ass, then knock them over with the trauma staff and hit them in the head with your dueling sword, rinse and repeat
>>545230669Surely not? We definitely cycled through some players rage quitting to poxburster conga lines in short order. We had periods of being stuck with a Vet bot but never for long.
>>545226435are you EU?
>>545231482yes but I just closed the game. idk if it works if im offline but I can open it up again if you want
>>545231589no matter, I'm not in-game right now eitherbut I'll save the code and add you once I log in next time(likely today evening)I'm not completely useless as a teammate either, or at least that's what I like to think
>>545232005okay sounds good
>>545232692I sent a request
Tanner said toughness damage reduction stacks additively with damage reduction. Is he right?
Anyone here in the Darktide discord?
>>545236963why
>>545237168because I'm permab& from theretell them to put more nox alpha weapon skins in the gameI'm tired of only having the dclaw and chainsword if I want to have matching weapons with the blue armors
>>545237443>b& from normie spaceIs it so hard to refrain from spamming the n-word?
>>545237443do it on the official forum
>>545237524I don't even know why I was banned. I was having a mental episode, of sorts, around the time my cat died. It hit me hard, and I drank to the point of blackout for several days. Once I sobered up I was banned from several online communities. I imagine it's because of something I did while I was blackout drunk.
I loved that cat more than I love videogames so it doesn't really matter though
wtf is a nox alpha weaon skin
>>545238090it's the blue/white ones that go with the blue/white armors you get from penances
>>545238090right now the only ones with it are cleaver&ripper on ogryn, dclaw/chainsword/crusher and infantry lasgun, combat shotgun and heavy laspistol on othersI would like them to update the penance track to give Nox weapon skins on other weaponsthat's such an easy thing, I thinkmaybe a picture frame or some other thing too
What's the fastest way to kill multiple crushers in your face as pogryn>just staggerlock them broNo, I want to KILL fast.
>come back after a year>jump straight into damnation with some friends>throw ogryn frag bomb that does nothing to the group of ragers on top of itThat makes two swedish coop games I've played in which grenades are sometimes filled with confetti.
>>545238629Branx pickaxe will do them in.
>>545234608no, of course not, why would you ever listen to tanner, he literally makes shit up in his head and instantly believes it to be the truthall damage reduction, toughness damage reduction or normal damage reduction, is multiplicative
>>545238629>pogrynThat's a shortened name for the plague ogryn, NOT some kind of reddit uwuspeak for the ogryn class.The branx pickaxe is probably the fastest in theory but in reality there's a bunch of other crap around that you have to deal with too, hence the stagger lock answer.
>>545239350pogryn is a fusion of "pog" and "ogryn"
>>545237839>>545237992Sorry for your loss, anon. I miss mine too.
La Trannetura....
>>545239457that's literally just all darktide players
>>545237839>>545237992>>545239448Understandable. I know that pain man, twice technically. I didn’t drink myself silly but I probably would have if I drank. Been 3 years already but it still hurts.
Why the h*ck do I have to unlock these on one of my level 30 characters? I reinstalled the game recently and one of my other characters didn't have to do this at all. Auric was unlocked for example.
>>545240695You clicked yes to the story mode option. It's a pain to get a few cutscenes you should just watch on youtube. When you get to the mandatory twins fight, the players you will get will be bad
>>545240695Gate-keeping journos. You have to play on baby-mode for two dozen games or so.
>>545240986I clicked no on all of them though. That's the weird thing. And >>545240695 wasn't even the first character I started playing. Double-checked and yeah other 3 characters have it all unlocked. Man, this alone makes me want to quit this character. Fatshark...man the players in this Hell are awful too. Boring slog.
>>545241181Well that's awful. At least you only have to suffer through it once. If the solo-play mod still works, you could do that and just rush through it
>>545241181>one mission gives this tiny amount of progressaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>545204505No, it's powersword for melee builds and devils claw for ranged (unironically)
>>545241181>>545242665Yah, it's like 6 or so missions per difficulty increase and having anyone jump you into a higher difficulty does not increase the gauge. It's not a bad idea to gradually up the difficulty for newer players, but they're not teaching the noobs anything in the process so it's just a dumb slog instead.
>>545243063I don't get why the fuck it's even an option anyway. Even if you skip it, you can re/play all of the campaign missions or join others who are doing it if you desire. Why the FUCK is it an option to NOT skip? Fucking Fatshark.
>>545244394Well trained mouse
what's the most based title to wear?
>>545239996You get that though don't you?There's nothing you can doYou're fucking helplessand your cat is dying
>>545189608okay i laughed
Darktide challengeName your loose cannon vet "Charlie-Kark"Every time the dialogue mentions water cartels, you have to stop what youre doing and type "with or without water cartel violence"You aren't allowed to dodge snipers
havocbros, which mark for helbore lasgun? 3a seems like the best but I havent tested them all yetalso, yay or nay for deadshot? the stamina loss doesnt seem like that big of a deal
>>545248154>havoc>helboreNo.
>>545248154Dont remember marks, but use the slowest charging one, helps allow for the heaviest of hits while also still allowing quick half charges for shooters and stuffDeadshot is a waste when surgical is already best in slot for blessings, just spend the point in something else
>level 700 ASS-faggpt with 1 wound left (of 2) thinks he's too good to heal 1/10th of the way through the mission when he's already down a wound>dies>level 500 martyr zealot is full corruption on all of his wounds because of an untimely beast grab>refuses to heal because he doesn't want to lose martyr buff>dies
>>545248304sorry sweaty, ive already cleared h40 + true survivor with the plasma gun, im done taking my estrogen and im transitioning to more fun weapons>>545248396gotcha, makes sense surgical is pretty damn good on its own
>>545248304Get the plasma out of your ass and have fun for onceHelbores one of the best guns for a ranged heavy playstyle in havoc, the main caveat being you need a team you know you can rely on, in which case helbore puts in loads of work
>>545200208>>545204308Could have sworn Male loose cannon & Female savant had a couple of flirty lines
>>545248542>>545248503>>545248396>>545248154I better not get shot a single time by a ranged enemy for the whole run or I'm remaking the lobby without you.
>>545241316You don't have to do this on every character?
>>545248154Veteran without plasma does not deserve any ammo, so deadshot and shock trooper is mandatory. This will be the new meta after plasma gets nerfed.All ammo belongs to ogryn.
>>545251363Double barrel ws already fills that spot whilst being more ammo efficient, dont worry
Sister of Battle [female locked] [Black skin locked]
>>545244685It’s a rat albeit>>545248834I wish someone went through the trouble of compiling all the voice lines so we could know but there are so many at this point that I doubt anyone will ever do it
>>545254265>order of the martyred lady and not ebon chalicemissed opportunity baka
>>545252218Ew
>>545251363>Veteran without plasma does not deserve any ammoVeteran with plasma doesn't deserve any ammo either. Scoreboard padding cleavefags are not helpful, that's a myth perpetuated by h20-30 hardstuckies who are too retarded to bring enough DPS to clear with 4 players what havoc 40 players kill as 2. If you're just shooting shooters, you only need the occasional pickup, nothing major that eats into your team's reserves.>so deadshot and shock trooper is mandatory.That probably goes without saying, since it's one of the bigger reasons to even bring helbore.>This will be the new meta after plasma gets nerfed.Depends on the semantics of what "meta" means to you, which apparently half this board is too retarded to get right. I'll just address these points individually:Plasma may be the strongest overall weapon veteran has, but it is not the strongest at filling the niche veteran is expected to fill in an optimized team.Plasma may be the most used weapon, but not only do most players use it very fucking wrong, but they don't even understand how to optimally play veteran.I'll already take any flavor of helbore or lasgun over a plasma retard that was carried to 40.
>>545245504No title
When do we beat up wolfy? His garrisons must be running low by now, right?
7 more sleeps
Since when did Psykinetic's Aura get nerfed into being 60% cooldown regeneration for 5 seconds?Wasn't it set at 100% right after the skilltree rework?
>>545258697I will be SHOCKED if it's not a skitarii / tech-priest but I'm hoping it's a ratling
>>545258937Last major patch, recent cooldown nerf that hit everyone.
>>545258697>Sister of battle>Tech priest>Hive ganger>Eldar>Ratling>Felinid >:3cWhat are our other options?
542 hours, I finally installed mods.I wanted numeric ammo counter (like I had in VT2) and block while typing (like VANILLA VT2). And also the ability to switch nades without redoing a build, and to test boss damage.But some of the shit I saw is just cheats and I don't like it. First page of most downloaded, of course.
>>545259029good old female ogryn
>>545259247The game is balanced around cheatersYou can see how chocobo plays havoc 40 without cheats and he loses most runs
>>545259247Get yourself scoreboard + scoreboard plugin + updated scoreboard plugin, and Power DI if you care about dissecting your performanceAlso get psych ward to skip ever having to enter the Mourningstar, memory leak fix to minimize the few crashes that still happen due to spaghetti code, and customizable UI for no reason other than removing the memory leak fix's UI from your screen
>>545259362I'm not getting scoreboard.I'm not getting a skip.I never crash. Never. It's always 2/4 players crash during something and it's never me.
>>545259331Allow me to translate from hardstuckie to normal English:>I'm cripplingly parasocial and too shit at video games to even fathom reaching havoc 40
>>545259029The space dwarves with a legally distinct name and kroot merc.
>>545259682DRG crossover?!
>>545258697Until they wordlessly delay any real content and make a forum post "announcement" giving you the name of the class.
>>545259535>start game>load>don't have button to skip the login screen for me so I have to press a button>load>select character, load into mourningstar>reading data from disk for like 5 seconds because my computer is good>waiting for other players for 30 seconds because fagshart can't code, has dogshit servers, and markets the game to thirdies>spend 20 seconds walking to the mission terminal to even quickplay>play mission, finish mission>spend half a minute loading into the mourningstar again, and another 20 seconds walking to the terminalNot exactly something to be so proud of that I'd post a smug anime girl. You don't know what you're missing out on.
>>545259362I didn't crash before I installed psych wardNow I crash when some downed faggot leaves the gameI can't see how the fuck it can be related but it only started happening after I installed psych ward and dark cache, but I have disabled dark cache and I still crash
>>545257145There really isn't much difference between plasma cleaving and rumbler bombing, though plasma is arguably better at taking out conga lines because, well, they're conveniently lined up
>>545260872>Now I crash when some downed faggot leaves the gameCan't possibly be related to psych ward. If anything, that MIGHT be related to the mod loader itself, but I also doubt that, because it doesn't happen to me. Next time it happens, run %appdata%\Fatshark\Darktide\crash_dumps and scroll down to see if you can make sense of what caused it. If it's mod related, it must be a different mod, or might could be caused by an outdated mod loader.>>545261130Plasma doesn't stunlock the entire screen.
>>545258973I did check games lantern site, for some reason that one still says 100% for 3 seconds.
>>545260798Sounds like you crash a lot
>>545261270>assuming a third party tool to be 100% accurate, up to date, or trustworthyThey probably just forgot to update it.
>>545258697Damn. Time flew by.>>545259029Realistically? None. That’s about it.>>545259682Kroot have too much to work around so they’re unlikely.
>>545259331This is the unironic truth.All the playtesters for this game are youtubers and if you see their vids they are all running mods.
>>545261196It's always the same shit><<Script Error>>scripts/foundation/managers/package/package_manager.lua:506: Trying to unload resource `#ID[a0f12764d4f6b1ec].#ID[a8193123526fad64]` that's used elsewhere by the engine, refcount: 86<</Script Error>>first id changes, second doesn'tAnd it always happens when a downed faggot leavesI can't think of anything else that I did besides installing psych ward, maybe some of the mods I installed earlier but they weren't acting up, but I disabled everything besides talent refund and psych ward
>>545261465>changing your HUD layout is cheatingThere's plenty of cheating mods but this is disingenuous. Not everyone is tranner.
default hud is besti'll never understand why people want a blob of icons in the center of the screen, or need to know the exact number of toughness points their teammates has
>>545262178Central hud is retarded but it's still not cheating
>>545259362>skip ever having to enter the MourningstarWhy would I want to skip the Mourningstar? It's cozy, and has nice ambient music.
>>545259247>(like VANILLA VT2)Chat block is a mod in VT2, if they made it part of vanilla it was literally at least 4 years after the mod.
>>545262502>why would you want to spend less time in a pointless hub that amounts to little more than a glorified advertisement for cosmetics>why would you want to spend more time actually playing the game>why would you want to be able to switch characters without spending half a minute loading despite having vastly over-spec hardware, just because Sw*des can't netcode or afford functional serversThe mourningstar lost its novelty 1100 hours ago.
>>545262178I want to see friendly ammo count and not ammo colors, because it affects do I feel like an asshole eating the small ammo box.I want to see actual % of how much longer until I can use my ability.Not as necessary, but it's nice to have the name tag color be the same color as the player "slot" (Blue player = blue tag).>>545262687>if they made it part of vanilla2020, it's been over twice as long in the game than not.
>>545263261>I want to see actual % of how much longer until I can use my ability.The default icon already shows the % visually, in the form of a bar. Maybe you're on the spectrum and I simply can not relate.
>Watch random stream>Every interactable marked>All scan targets highlighted>All minigames show the answers from the start>Markers showing the direction where specials are>"This game is too easy" I hear them sayI just don't fucking get it man.
>>545264265>"wtf why anon not install these free mods that literally make them more effective in game?"it's how they think: Mods are just free talent points and we are silly not to use them
>Disconnected from server (Error 2004)
>>545264265At most I have radius indicators for poxbursters and barrels, I don't see the point in having the minigames solved for you.
>>545265084You wouldn't even clear aurics if people didn't solve code puzzle for you
>>545216631We need more cute 40k anime
>>545266119I've cleared aurics before without the minigame crutch though, you just need a team that actually coordinates.
>>545266283A good player with a good build can solo maelstroms, only objectives are a bit of a pain point depending on the build.Two good players can just about sleepwalk through aurics.
>>545264869Ah. 2004. The cursed year…
>>545259029Longshanks. As tall as an ogryn but skinny, use long ranged guns and complains about the gravity planetside constantly. Also had a long slender neck for throttling.
>>545254265Darker.
>>545265084Yeah I don't care much about the barrel radius, they are deceptively large. Also on the forums it's always funny seeing people use the "It helps deaf people" excuse for the spideysense mods. Like just own up to the fact that you're cheating, no need to sugarcoat it.
>>545266991>Like just own up to the fact that you're cheating, no need to sugarcoat it.I don't mind admitting that, for the poxbursters the only thing that really does is give me a bit of forewarning about which direction I'm going to be yeeted on the occasion one sneaks up on me. If the indicator shows up, it's already gonna blow.On a side note, did they make fire sticky? I feel like you move a lot slower when you're on it, and dodge distance feels like it's reduced.
>>545267271Slight miscommunication, I don't mind the radius mod you've got. That's low impact stuff.I'm pretty sure fire was always like that. Especially before it got nerfed where one pinky toe in the fire made you limp out of it super slowly.
>rolling steel>get two havoc 40s>this should be easy>psyker DIES before even reaching the second hacking minigame, blew himself up of course>can only manage so many downs during the capsule stage while also doing the objective myself because these niggers ignore it>ogryn DIES during the capsule stage>on fucking ogryn>psyker DIES again before even reaching the medicae>even the finale is a shitshow because they're not meleeing the boss>both of them combined have less damage than I do>the random scrub that got a bunch of penances at the end of the mission somehow did betterThis is the first time in ages that I've seen such extreme retards. I now believe the anons who call a lot of True Survivors shitters.
>>545268679Havoc nerds are trash in Aurics, I don't know why
>>545268860No, that's the weird part. They're usually not. Most of the time I see a havoc 40, they're likely to be the best teammate of the bunch, compared to when I see a havoc 20 hardstuckie, and it's a near guarantee that the player is an incompetent shitter.Hell, I've got h40 True Survivor myself, and I don't struggle with aurics.On the other hand, I do see h40s and Havoc-Forged that somehow unlearned how to play the game and assume everything has to be a slow crawl between cuckbubbles, which is a really fucking embarrassing display. They're the kind of nigger that will camp a point of no return in havoc, wait for one player to jump down, see a boss spawn, and then leave them to die while they run ALL THE WAY back to spawn.
>Hoperatling>Cool anywaymechanicus>youtuber-tierGanger
>>545268679Surely you posted a little "Got carried for those titles I see" in chat, right?
>>545268860They tend to stick together tighter than a virgin’s asshole, with the whole team running meta builds. Auric is for fun shenanigans LARPer builds so they're not used to it.
That's it, I'm not accepting psykers in my havocs anymore. ALWAYS the first to eat an overhead and NO meaningful damage against the real threats. Smoke grenades will have to do.
>>545269317I did after the psyker died the second time
>>545270862>not accepting greatsword psyker chadsguess you hate getting carried>NO meaningful damage against the real threats.Tell me you haven't hit 40 without saying you haven't hit 40
I just wanted to relax and have fun after my 25h shift, I was a bit tired and got shredded by a heavy gunner, couldn't dodge it.Some fucking zealot got me up and wrote in chat "got carried for those titles I see"fml.
If you don't have Poxbreaker or True Survivor you suck at the game and will NEVER be joining my havocs
>>545271435I had True Survivor before I even had 50% of the way to Poxbreaker, and Poxbreakers are usually bad thougheverbeit
Got carried for those titles I see
>>545271550The alternative is that you're so bad you couldn't even be carried for the title
>Fuck you you don't even have a havoc rankThanks for noticing.
>>545271328Stay out of my aurics havoqueer.
>>545271835I look like that and I say that
>>545268679>rolling steel>greentexti already know
I grindeded all the way from 1 to 40, hosting every single mission. I earned my True Survivor fair and square.I still manage to fuck up spectacularly in auric from time to time.Sorry! I'm only human!
>>545273046Patently ignoring the objective, ignoring ammo pings, and blowing yourself up multiple times in the same mission isn't fucking up spectacularly, or even within the margin of human error. It's being a fucking retard.
>>545273046What an odd thing to wroted
I have true survivor and poxbreaker but I dont even know my current havoc rank because I didnt play it since I hit 40 in the first havoc 2.0 seasonthis mode is kinda trash and map variety is more important to me
>>545273046>I'm only human!You better fucking be.
If you don't have True Survivor it means you're a confirmed shitter. If you do have it you were probably carried and are still a shitter but there's at least a chance you're not a shitter. So therefore you better have it.
Darktide: the cope times
>All this infighting MORTISCHADS RISE UP! OUR TIME IS NOW!
>>545274523The truest post that has ever truthed
>NO ESCAPE>NO QUARTER>NO MERCY
Well fellas, I think we can call it here. The next class will be Eldar. They know people are naturally inclined to simp for superior elven women. Barefoot skin in the deluxe edition.
>>545277630>fatshark>making something that isn't visually repulsivenever happening
>>545277824wdym, he did say it would be barefoot, so it counts
>True Carried
>>545277994>he doesn't have it because he's too heavy to be carriedbad look, anon
>>545277630>Stands barefoot in the green goop>"Feels mushy!"
>>545268860some havoc denizens see auric as the designated fuck-around / try-new-builds mode
>>545266797Shut up crag that would never work get back in dbd
>>545274869>BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOMWHAT, I CAN'T HEAR YOU>BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM>SPEAK UP, I GOT INFINITE AMMO BOON>BOOM BOOM BOOM
>>545266932thought this was rochelle for a second >>545269247your hope is dumb
>>545278269RISE UP!ISEUP!
One thing we can be sure of, the new class will not be one that needs a new skeleton/rig. Fatshark has been forthright about that being too much of a pain to bother, and that is one truth that won't change for devs everywhere.
>>545271835>>545272818Trvke.>>545277630Get a better fetish.
>>545278593>thought this was rochelle for a secondit should be if there's a L4D movie
>>545277630Amen
Do you guys like my discount sister using the old lady voice?
>>545280426
>>545280701Cute.That's crusader armor right? is it powered in lore?
>>545277630Sure, I can't wait for the Eldar to have a stealth tree and for every fucking person playing the class to take it and proceed to activate as many fucking enemy groups as possible while running around like a retard doing nothing of worth before calling everyone trash at the game and dipping.
>>545280701Nice
>>545280701I regret not buying that chest piece when it was available thousands of years ago
>>545281009>>545282432It is the crusader armor, yeah. And it's quite nice, I'm happy it was one of the few things I slopped on. I don't think it's generally used with power regulators in the lore but it looks cool, and it satisfies my roleplay autism by pretending it helps power a forcefield (aka toughness) like a rosarius.
Do you prefer blazing piety or martyrdom?
>>545283748Anything but martyrdom because I prefer not being griefed out of the run by some retard blowing up a burster in my face, downing the carry, and then wiping.>just don't be near th-I don't want to play like a pussy either.
>>545283748BP every single time, marty is a complete meme
>>545284234It is a fun meme though
>>545284234i keep meaning to make a build that takes all of the typically redundant defensive traits with martyrdom to make up for the lack of damage talents/blessings, just to see how it doesbut then i forget :^)
>>545283748#1. Piety#2. Crit martyr#3. Martyr#4. Crit judgement#5. Judgement#6. KeystonelessThank you for your attention to this matter
>>545279092It's not even my fetish... I calls them as I sees them
Stop disconnecting
>>545286885Sure thing man, I'll be right by y
Tech priest dropping alongside a bolter skin based on archeotech from holy Terra
>>545274523I'm fucking trying but everytime I play either I die to some stupid bullshit, or if I don't die then some other guy starts hugging the floor.
>>545291754Rat Ogryn
>>545291754Ogryn would eat that rat.
New class will be a grey knight and it will be the meta forever
>>545287503>just ignore the smell bro nurgle is great
>>545292292>better psyker than the psyker>better zealot than the zealot>better veteren than the veterenI believe it
>>545292685Wolfer?
>>545287503>Antifa recruitment >Also comes with the freaks
>>545292528Nurgle is the final corpo pill. Line must go up.What line? All lines. Endlessly more births, endlessly more consumption, it all feeds from itself.
>3 disconnects>1 crash
>>545288229>>545292292Sounds awesome
>>545294778What's with the lagspikes and crashes anyway?Never affects me, so might be because they have bad hardware.
>>545295462don't know, most of the negative reviews last month was connectivity relatedhighly doubt they'll resolve anything before fucking off for their winter break
>>545294778>try to play game>servers shit themselves>see this
>>545292716No one better than ogryn
>>545292292Stop trying to make space marines happen. It's NEVER gonna happen.
>all three randoms get pounced by hound wave>run to help, suddenly everything freezes >get downed 10 meters away from where i was>random types "YOU IGNORED ALL OF US">Disconnected from server (Error 2014)maelstrom btw
>SSCCAATTTTEEEERR>CCOOWWEERR FFLLEEEEE>LLEETT MMEE PPAASSSS>BBEE GGOONNEE>AAWWAAYY WWIITTHH YYOOUU
How do we save Tertium?
>>545299495By shutting the servers down
>>545299495mandatory teeth brushing
>>545299495Kill Wolfer.Then we have to kill Lioner and the Tarmac triplets.
>>545299495have it be referenced in another 40k property a year or two from now, completely wiped out, no survivors, especially the mourningstar which famously detonated in orbit, killing its entire crew
>>545299929>She shoots from the knee...What?
>>545299495Re-enact Istvaan III
>>545300073She kneel on his peenor...
>>545298102he’s joking anon>>545299929i don’t get it
>friends only ever want to play Peak and Repo>even the most basic coop games that everyone should already have like Left 4 Dead 2 is a no go because some people don't have it and don't want to get itI hate that they're like this.
I hate havoc, fuck havoc, fuck true survivor.I'm never playing this dogshit gamemode again.
How
>>545304929>have around 1.3k hours, truelevel 1700>but that's with at least 2 deleted characters, and a lot of sitting in menus, fucking around, testing, etc.>let's assume a generous 2000 levels per 1.3k hours, or 1.54 levels per hour>or just about exactly 2 levels per hour, with 3 exp curios. A nice and convenient number.>going by this math, 9817 true levels would take exactly half as many hours, or 4,908.5 hours>Darktide released November 30, 2022, or 1,070 days ago>assuming efficient leveling with exp curios, and only playing that one character, the daily average play time comes out to 4 hours and 35 minutes played>of course it's a veteranThe most plausible and least grim explanation is a bug.The next most plausible explanation is VERY AUTISTICALLY grinding specific missions you can out of bounds speedrun straight to the finish. I remember there used to be at least one, I don't know if that has been fixed. You can select specific missions via "Many More Try" and it counts for progression.The most grim explanation is that this person literally plays no games other than darktide, and spends most of their free time playing darktide. Or long-term unemployment. Or both, we don't know what other characters that account might have.
>>545304929Oh thats 1000% sallyThey leave games when they go down still btw
>>545306805>long-term unemploymentas a covid era degenerate i can confirm even this is insufficient as an explanation
>>545304708the first time i cleared h40 there was exactly one downstill pisses me off that i don't have it, but i haven't even come close since
>>545298272About a week ago I was just pubbing aurics cuz bored, aggroing and killing every dhost with a vet shovel cuz how else can I get fun from auricsOn the third dhost of the map, right at the end of the mission, about halfway through its health, the storm outside caused a power surge turning off my pc and taking out the internet for a few hoursI just hope those pubs dont hate me for that dhost getting passed on by accideng and know I fully intended to kill it
>>545304929>be trans>be unemployedThat's how
>>545307812If your retards can't kill a half health daemonhost that they were already aware of and was already being fought, they don't deserve to be in auric.
>>545307812>>545308283You are the cancer that is killing the coop community
>>545306805maelstroms give like double the exp of regular auricsmaybe he exclusively played maelstroms
>>545308458I think maelstroms are around a third of my play time, I used to play them a ton. Don't forget that quickplay has an exp boost attached to it, also.On the other hand, I also play a lot of havoc, and I have genuinely no clue how the EXP gain there is, because I pay just about zero attention to my levels.If we're generous again and assume 3 levels per hour, that's still an average of around 3 hours and 17 minutes per day, playing only veteran. Still not a good look.
>>545308392Apologies for attempting to have fun, wont do it again sir
>>545308392The cancer that is killing the coop community is a combination of incompetent devs (we haven't had one since L4D2), being potato-compatible and frequently discounted leading to massive waves of thirdies, and, especially in the case of darktide, entitled out-of-their-depth retards expecting to get carried in difficulties they have no business being in. Although the last part can also be a lack of gatekeeping mechanics, however you want to look at it.3 retards that can't kill a half health DH do not belong in that difficulty, no matter how much you want to cope about it. Stay mad, and stay out of my aurics.
>>545308887Yes but it's more like 10 hours per day for 3 times less days.
>>545304929I do not understand how that is physically possible unless you're literally playing every waking hour of every day. I have a couple of thousand hours in this game and still haven't even passed level 2000 on my most played character.
>>545304929Maybe hacks?>>545307372>covid era degenerateWhat a way of putting it>>545308209True
>>545310301the coof ruined what slim chance i had
>>545308971read this in morrow's voice XD
>>545309205The did do that last bit at least somewhat for darktide recently, where you have to win missions on your current difficulty to gain progress to unlocking the next one, and losses take away progress, in theory so youd be better prepared for the next difficultyBut the only thing thats resulted in is people bitching and moaning they have to genuinely play the game at malice and such
>>545312119>you have to win missions on your current difficulty to gain progress to unlocking the next oneYes, except they half-assed it as half-assedly as half-assing can be half-assed. They quarter-assed it. No cheeks.The progress bar cannot go down. You can flop your way through mission after mission after mission until the sheer volume of games means you inevitably get carried through enough of them to progress to the next difficulty.In fact, the psychology of the progress bar being replaced with another one pretty much implies "you're ready for the next difficulty, champ, go get em" which results in >entitled out-of-their-depth retards expecting to get carried in difficulties they have no business being in.because the game more or less tells them they should go there now.There is no re-ranking.Aurics are no longer hidden on a second page that mouthbreathers cannot find, or that noobs would be afraid of upon seeing how scary it all looks.To some random retard, it just looks like the normal order of things, and since they were already averaging 2 deaths per mission, getting corpse-dragged through auric is completely natural to them. And for those that get mad at dying because it means playing less, they just ragequit out without penalty and shit up the next game.
>>5453068054 hours per day is not an unrealistic expectation even if youre working full time
>>545313257Yeah, that could be 2 hours on workdays and 9 hours on weekend days.Every week.Every month.Every year since release.Playing veteran, and only veteran, and doing nothing but spam queueing quickplay or maelstroms with 3 exp curios.No matter how you spin it, it's very, very far removed from normal behavior. You'd at least expect to get bored. If this person plays any other classes, the numbers become even more ridiculous.At least play a competitive game with a ranked system if you're going to devote that much time to it, at least you have something to chase and improve on, with a live ecosystem driven by player interaction. I'll still judge someone for playing several thousand hours of MOBA games but at least I can understand the appeal. 4k+ hours of veteran is neurodivergent to say the least.
>>545314092no, even a 9 to 58 hours for work8 hours for sleep1 hour to travel1 hour to eat1 hour for bathrooms1 hour for miscthat leaves 4 free each day to play
is warp ghost good? idk if i should drop the peril based rending for it
>>545315445It's good, try it.Getting more toughness is good for sustain, and good for most builds.Getting more stamina can be useful depending on your choice of melee weapon.-80% passive quelling can be more positive than negative, if you're a build that wants to maintain high peril but can't rocket it up very quickly. Think melee or gun builds that, for example, want it for cleaving or for damage while on high peril.Most of your quelling should be active anyway.
>>545307532I just fucking hate it.Everytime a run is going well and looks promising, like everyone is on their A-game, director is cooperating and not being a complete dickwad, but then regardless some guy just fucking dies to some stupid bullshit or the director just goes>"Lol, lmao, kek even"And then throws like 4 monstrosities captain, twins, hordes of armor and the million chaff for no fucking reason.
>>545315913>twins,I thought twins were guaranteed to spawn once per level, and that you should always be ready for them to show up unless you've already killed them.Not sure if there are any conditions under which they don't show, I just play my weekly 40s without paying too much attention.
I fucking hate mortis trials it took 5 games for me to finally get the infinite ammo during exec stance shit and my team just splits up during the trapper wave and we all get fucked because of it why the fuck is there this dogshit rng system in the first place ill be lucky if I get it again in the next 5 games so instead ill have to run a gimped build because the game just gives me worthless garabage upgrades instead
>>545316064I know that they are guaranteed to spawn at some point in a mission.But for me 90% of the time it feels like they spawn always during the most shittiest moments possible which causes any scenario that could've been midly salvageable (still someone died so the run is entirely fucking pointless anyway) into straight impossible.
>>545316739>90% of the time it feels like they spawn always during the most shittiest moments possibleNah, that's confirmation bias. The director is assigned a certain budget for enemy spawns based on a number of factors, but I'm pretty sure that some spawns are either heavily inflated, or otherwise not even limited. There definitely are map triggers where, if you cross a certain line, the game spawns a boss. Like dropping off a point of no return, for example. They differ from map to map.I know exactly the situation you're describing, but I also know what causes it.>horde spawns>director decides it's boss time and spawns 2 of them>some retard panics and decides to kite like it's auric>runs forward past a position you've already "conquered", hits a boss trigger>RNG says it's twins>you're now fighting 4 bosses, with a possible 5th reinforcingIt's part of why progress should be done slow, and immediately halt when you hear a boss trigger or a horde. It's also why most actually seasoned teams will retreat a decent bit when that happens.
>>545316064>>545316739>>545317165twins have an 80% chance to spawn, they're not guaranteed.
>>545312102XXXDDD so true!
>>545315445No, it's bad
>>545316739don't bother, these empathylets unironically think their ~dozen havoc 40s completed are a significant sample and will flame you without realizing that in a game like this whether or not someone in a pub goes down is 90% director randomness
>>545315445yeah its insanely good and slept on because no youtubers have mentioned it yetany scrier's gays build that doesn't take it is certifiably retardedif the devs were smart, melee and gun talents would have anti-synergy with peril level to force some choices, but they're retarded so lol
>>545317165There's that one elevator in refinery delta 17 that everyone knows about. Once I had twins and a captain wait just outside it, pre-spawned. There's no trigger, they just chill there with other pre-spawned horde, waiting to be aggroed (which happens instantly whrn you leave elevator). And exactly in that run director decided to be an asshole and spawned a monstosity (I think it was chaos spawn) that walked in fron outside. AND it was a heinous ritual modifier so we casually triggered a ritual that was in a middle floor, simply by passing it in an elevator.This run was fucked on so many levels. Now explain me how the fuck can this happen if there's a limited "budget"
>>545318071>80%I believe you, but what's your source? I can't make that much sense of the source code, looking up "twins" under root/scripts/ in the Aussiemon repo.The best I've found is mutator_monster_spawner_injection_templates.lua>mutator_monster_spawner_injection_templates.havoc_twins = {>spawn = function (template, monster, ahead_target_unit, side_id)>local threshold_value = 0.2>if threshold_value < math.random() thenwhich means a 20% chance to spawnIt seems to be called by as "MonsterInjectionTemplates" by mutator_monster_spawner.lua in a function that references nav_world and level_seed, which makes sense. But I'm not sure at which point in the logic this somehow comes out to 80%.
>>545320592>Once I had twins and a captain wait just outside it, pre-spawned.Difficult to tell exactly what happened without having been there, and without knowing how reliable your memory is, or how aware you even were in the first place. I don't know where the trigger is on that map, or exactly how they work in the first place, and I haven't played it recently enough to speak on the subject with any authority, but my best guess would be that you tripped the spawn om your way up the elevator, and it only appeared like they were waiting right outside it because the spawn door is literally right there opposite the medicae.>And exactly in that run director decided to be an asshole and spawned a monstosityIt does that. Boss triggers come with a horde, and I believe the director is allowed to replace at least portions of a horde with a monstrosity spawn. I believe the hordes are also coded to spawn reinforcements when a boss reaches half health or something like that, but I'd have to gi dig around in the source code again to verify that. If twins spawned during the elevator ride, which started a horde, which reinforced a monstrosity, that all seems perfectly logical.>ritualRituals are a static map event with weird triggers. I'm not sure exactly how the triggers work, but I know it's not based on radial positioning from the ritual itself, because sometimes you can trigger it from miles away, while other times you can walk almost right up to it before it trips. I'll chalk this one up to Sw*dish spaghetti code, but it has nothing to do with boss or horde spawn logic whatsoever, as far as I know.
>>545320963https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3318538305>additionally to regular monster spawns, grants an 80% chance to spawn Twinsnot sure if its true, but I know for a fact that twins do not spawn 100% of the time. they do show up more often than not though
>>545321767>it's under Emperor's Fading Light>additionally to regular monster spawns, grants an 80% chance to spawn Twins; this is mainly based on travel distance and can occur once per mission; Twins always force a horde when they spawnAh, I see. Thanks. I'll just take kuli's word as gospel, then.
Darkturd moment
the only respectable frame
>>545324429>No One Left Behind>Pox BreakerThe only true team players
>>545324429>not the one for 500 rescuesI actually got that one after revives because retards just take a knee every couple steps but obviously won't die as often if there's someone to carry them.
>>545324429Meh>>545324820It's about 1.6k hours since i got that frame
darktide but as a horror game
>>545325715Dead By Darktide
>>545321716They 100% didn't come from doors, they were standing just like any other pre-spawned mobAlso we restarted the mission and the same shit happened again, though my memory is fuzzy about the details. I didn't say it the first time because it was a long time ago and I'm not entirely sure, but I think there were 4 humanoid bosses at one time (maybe double twins, or twins + 2 captains). And when we restarted the mission, there were 3 humanoid bosses this time, but 2 monstrosities. And one of the monstrosities was also pre-spawned, I remember it was a pogryn standing in the small room with the medicae, where the door is. Maybe it came from the door while we were riding the elevator, but I remember it was just standing menacingly behind 3 lieutenants/captains, and wouldn't it be weird if it pathfinded exactly to that location after exiting the door and stopped? Also yoi know how music changes when you trigger the boss, I don't remember such a thing. I also remember that ritual lositions changed, so shit changes between runs, but that doom room was still packed with bosses. Also, I think a small room with medicae counts as a separate room because of this.I don't know, you seem to be convinced that bosses always come from doors, but that's not my experience.
please buff the Indignatus crusherevery supposed strength of this weapon is hopelessly outclassed by something elseFatshark I know you lurk here, please buff this weapon
>>545328032An actual bolter bitch would have him flogged as an example to the other guardsmen to not allow their faith to waver.
>>545328573Depends on who's writing, one of the books had Sisters shacking up with random Guardsman out of boredom
>>545328525on paper it's OK but it's been powercrept into irrelevance as the balance shifted. a bit like the zealot flame grenades, remember when those were considered strong?
>>545328525>>545328994It even sucks on Arbys
>>545328994They are still strong but you need uncanny strike to make use of them, and knife/ds4 zealot sucks.At least they are stronger than shredder grenades.
>>545328525I loved this thingDid it get killed by the health increases?
>>545328525They need to give it power cycler and make activation faster. If they just give it more cleave and damage, they will powercreep the thunder hammer.
>>545328525Just give it more rending!!!
>True Survivor>Mortis Trials no provisions frame>Auric Maelstrom nobody downed medalokay now what
>>545331814Pox Breaker
>lvl 2700 + zealot leaves>suspect it's because i get all the kills>sees me again in a mission>instantly leaves againLol
>>545324429>>545324778>>545324820All trve
>>545332590>Stealth Knife ZealotChecks out. But to be fair I also can't stand Arbifags that do nothing but shoot their stupidly overtuned shotguns into the poxwalkers I'm fighting
>>545328573>>545328678Just goes to show there’s variation in behavior among these people
>>545332590With a name like that it has to be a Russian
>>545332590>knife anythingYou're better off without them
I want a split up internet.A fat chinkgger yelling in VT2 was too common of an occurrence, no one should experience it.Now it's knifegger Russians.
>>545333742russians have a bike brand named "stels"it will never stop being funny
Sienna finally clicked. Holy shit she's fun. But I feel like passing out after doing two Deeds on Cataclysm difficulty and I'm not even employed.
So I figured out how to spam vacuum capsule memes, but is there a way to spam a specific variant of cheer? Since with a regular com wheel action a random phrase is picked, but I really like female seer "we are winning" cheer, can I trigger it specifically? It seems that if there is a way, it's outside of the scope of the public mod.
>>545337284oh my reddit
>>545332590>knife faggotHe's doing you a service. Glad the other posts are saying the same. Anyone else here/remember that knife zealot schizo here when the game was in beta/new? Wonder how many people he duped into playing that garbage until people finally started sharing webm of how shit knife faggots are.
>>545339031>all this knife hateAnd yet knife just gets a bad name because it's used by retarded shitters. Great weapon nonetheless.Plasma is on exactly the same level of shittery as the knife, and you will not change my mind. Great weapon, utter DOGSHIT players. You just don't notice how bad they are until you hit havoc.
>>545337284This is how /trash/ ERPers talk during downtime by the BTW.
>>545339418no, it has no cleave, its just bad
>>545339418You don't really get punished for shit target prioritization in anything but Havocs.
>arbites is goodi would think for a retard to say this, as usual by the emperor always with the lie's.
>>545339875in your hands, perhaps
Darktide players = Israelis Vermintide players = PalestiniansQuestions?
>>545340137Please make an effort to learn English before you post on an English language board, I can't even decipher your nonsensical gibberish, ESLgroid
>>545340325And yet in both games, you primarily fight Indians... Curious...
>>545340148we are talking about regular knife, not ogryn knife
>>545340494I'm talking about your spastic retard hands, not normal hands
>>545340720ironic, because knife users are always the most spastic
>>545332542seems kind of mid, you could farm this at any number of locations on heresy or below with a simple macro
>>545340876>spastic retard uses the knife>it's bad because he's a spastic retard with a build to matchindeed
>>545340356ok pajeet
>>545264265americans need guardrails created for them by big daddy government or a discord moderator or else they go insane
by this time tomorrow i'll be buying slop
Friendly reminder that the Warhammer franchises were heavily inspired by Sanatana Dharma (hindiusm as you gaijin call it)
>>545341327It would be simpler to list the things Warhammer hasn't stolen from
>>545341327Only the poopy nurgle part of it
>>545341327i really am sorry indians have become the final boss of racism but the black caucus agrees you guys go first
>>545341327there we go again, indians steal other peoples words
>>545340137saar
>>545340137what have you wroted you bloody basterd
>>545240695Samefag here. I've found this,https://support.fatshark.se/hc/en-us/articles/28865863142301-Why-Am-I-Suddenly-Unable-to-Play-Higher-DifficultiesAll 4 of my classes were already level 30 and all finished Damnation 2 years ago many, many times (used to track it for all characters for penances) so it's apparently a bug that my Ogryn is reset back to the start, and my other 3 characters (rightfully) already had Auric unlocked. I've contacted Fatshark support about this, hopefully they can fix it. I've never dealt with their support before so I've no idea how reliable they are. Also strange that the progress on masteries for my weapons on every class were way out of whack. Some weapons I hardly ever touched had a bunch of levels on it, yet weapons I used the most (e.g. power maul) were at level 0. Goofy.
The Indignatus Crusher is in fact a good weapon
>>545345296>talking to people rather than suffering through the minor inconvenience for a dozen gamesCouldn't be me.
>>545346942>he thinks it's just a dozenSee: >>545242665Then do that for each and every difficulty.
>>545346930Yeah, just like the chainweapons, devil claws and all the other trash- I mean hidden gems.
>>545347020I did it for the arbeetus, it wasn't all that long.
>>545352161At least with that you're getting XP, right? Starting from level 1 and working your way up. I've already done it on Ogryn and has near-BIS gear. Already all done. Not doing it again m8.If it doesn't get fixed I think I'll be canning Ogryn for good. Don't like the class that much to waste so much time on it—again! At least the other 3 classes aren't bugged.
>>545347079>used to love the Devil's Claw in spite of its (many, MANY) shortcomings because the parry was simply too much fun on a staminamaxxing build>now I can't even justify it for that use case because the DS outclasses it there with its post-rework parrymay snow fall eternal upon Fatshark HQ
In VT2, why is Battle Wizard considered better than Unchained with the Corus staff? I don't find the Famished Flame buff that noticeable, while I notice like hell all the buffs I get from being close to peak overcharge on Unchained.+60% melee damage +20% weapon swing speed +the ability to control when I kamikaze +never needing to vent +being tanky as hell >>>>>>>>>>> +100% more DoT damage What am I failing to understand?
>>545354093>What am I failing to understand?If you aren't noticing just how horrifically fast you melt enemies with FF, then I don't know what to tell you anonthey just sort of die faster
>>545354093are you using beam staff on your Battle Wizard?if not, try again and keep it steady on a monstrosity
>>545346930It cant possibly be a good weapon, it has combos (indication of a bad weapon) and doesnt have uncanny strikeIts simple logic dood
How unlikely is it that Fatshark will ever add anything new to the penance track?
>>545362809>PenanceJust shit for the new class becuase Fatshark are lazy and retarded
>>545341327See >>545341412 and Warhammer 40k original concept was a parody of Star Wars + Star Trek with random black humor
I had a "It came to me in a dream" moment. Next class is AdMech. Hard to tell if it was Tech-Adept or Skitarii. Thanks Beloved.
Next class? Ganger
>>545363330no, its a dune parody
if the next class is admech/skiitari, what are you going to name them?
>>545365204Batty
>>5453652045K313T0R
>>545364940>Coping this hardObviously you pulled this shit out of you ass and don't know about Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau, your feelings are not facts
>>545365204I don't know, I'm running out of variants of my real name.
>the original space marines are literally stormtroppers with lasguns>hurr durr dunelol retard
>>545365807That's a joke I'm not privy to but anon is right, 40k is heavily inspired by dune, which is a great book that you should read, including the prequels.
>>545365204D1CK0T
>>545366030
>>545341412>It would be simpler to list the things Warhammer hasn't stolen fromTrue, GW are chink tier in steal ideas, Necrons from Terminator, Tyranids/Genestealers from Alie, etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss10Ivg4PMY
>>545366875K I N O
>>545366561>>545341412>>545365807The similarities between those are surface level at best You’ll have to learn the difference between stealing and homage btw
>>545341327no one knows what that is Sanjay>>545340356you struck his nerve and now he’s projecting whilst crying
>>545369680They tried to copyright Eldar
>>545340325>vt players browncurious indeed
>>545345296Samefag again (last time).Their support at least were quick and straight to the point. Props to them, based Julia.
I really wish trapper nets had collision like actual ranged enemies.
>>545370416Julia and the strawhat guy that left seem to be the only people at FS that clock in every day
>>545370808Haha>grabs you trough walls
>>545370808it might be just one of the small lazy compromise to why there is no friendly fire in DT
>>545370895>nets you through a crusher horde
>>545371310This is the shit I hate. More-so when you know the trapper is there, you can't find an angle, and it eventually nets one of your teammates.Aiiieeeee!
>>545371310>hear the shot>dodge-slide to the side>you were not the target>it got you anyway
How would you respond if Fatshark decided to release the new Darktide class the same day they reveal what it is? Instead of us probably getting it in January or February at the soonest after their winter break.
>>545373694at least they would have a bit of time to hotfix their shit before going for their 3 months holidays
The more I think about it, the more I realize that the hardest part, when they add a new class, is hiring six voice actors, writing all their dialogue, calling back all the other voice actors to record the new lines, syncing everything up, and so on.In the end, gameplay-wise, the new class is just a few “new” mechanics slapped onto an already existing skeleton.
>>545339770True>>545364639Nice cosplay>>545365204I don’t actually know it’s hard to come up with good names
>>545370873Kek>guyI thought it was a girl
>>545365204Probably something like a serial number or beep boop
>>545365204 i wanted George_Droyd, but that's filteredso uhhhh, i dunno
>>545365204NotAHeretek
>>545365928I thought FAGGOT was filtered?
>>545373694I would be dumbfounded because they have literally set a date for the next update and put it on their roadmap and it's december 2.A delay wouldn't surprise me, but getting it early? No chance.
>>545375481>calling back the other voice actorslol, lmao eventhe arbitrator counter-lines are probably mostly unused Savant Psyker responses
>>545370416>>545370873Julia literally holds that entire company up by the grip of her pussy.
>>545376479lol>>545377178can she grip me in her pussy too
We must make room for all the returning shitposters next week.
Do (you) take the two +25 toughness small nodes in the veteran skill tree?
>>545378857I do on non-shout builds that otherwise struggle for toughness
>>545378857*shrugs*
>>545378857Taking one is fine if it's on the way to your chosen keystone, but it's not substantial enough to go out of your way to take both of them. You should be killing to replenish toughness rather than relying on high base toughness, so anything that increases your capacity to kill lots of enemies quickly is better than using points to get a superfluous +25
We never lied, it’s the truth that changed.
>>545379467He deserves to be mocked, but not for that reason. Plans really do change and he thought he was telling the truth
>>545379829STFU nigger, I called my friends working at Steam and a Death Squadron is already on the way, We'll see how smart you feel with internal security all over yoru fricking ass. Dickhead!
>>545183031Based and canon. >Dems rape republicans on election day, I get to play my based Sister of Battle next week.Life is good.
>>545189608That rat is too cunty
>>545266932>>545254265Reminder that black skin is objectively sexy. Its just that negroid features aren't most of the time.
>>545280701>>545282432That outfit is a crusader outfit.
>>545328678>>545332967>>545328573Sisters of Battle can and WILL fuck random guardsmen and guardswomen and other sisters at a moments notice!Do NOT let your guard down!And no they won't fuck Space Marines cus Astartes are traitorous abhuman mutant abominations with no sex drive and should be purged.
>>545365204D0r07hy
>>545370416Based Julia I love you
>Admech Tech priest>Admech Skitarii>Admech Servitor>Ganger>Sister of Battle--- Line of: obviously not happening but we're still gonna list them --->Sanctioned Eldar>Sanctioned Kroot fellawhat else could they possibly add?
>>545382857Depends on the skin color options. I like the sound of 4e4947474552 (binharic)
>>545365204>>545383071whoops, replied to the wrong post
>>545383016Terrence from accounting
>>545383016>>GangerThis is the only option that would actively upset people and people wouldn't buy.Sisters would have some seething Zealotfags mad about losing half their playerbase since half of zealotfags are sisters larpers but they would quite literally print money. Admec would do financially well as well, same for Aeldari.Ganger wouldn't sell much if at all.
>>545383016A primaris space marine at GW's insistence
>>545383269I would be disappointed by a ganger, yeah.>sisterThey could easily avoid an overlap with zealot by making her focused on ranged.
>>545383269who would be upset about ganger? The voice line potential is huge. Especially with an arbitrator occupying the same elevator. I think it has potential.
>>545383536Heavy Bolter and Power Halberd please.
>>545383625well i got my answer real quick >>545383536true and also zealot doesn't really have any real fire-focused builds other than muh fire grenade and flamer. A SoB could have talents to increase fire damage, burn time, max stacks, or have some new wildfire equivalent.
>>545382594And it was sold without that cool helmet
>>545383689>heavy bolter>takes 4 business days to pull out, as opposed to the regular bolter's 2 business days>power halberd>the first melee weapon that has equip times comparable to the bolter, and also nearly a second of attack windup, without the necessary special jab like the knife has>you don't get throwing knives to animation cancel either of these
>>545383625>potential
>>545383016Add votann and >literally every kind of obscure abhuman to the "obviously not happening" category.
>>545383861did you make this just for me or did i walk into a trap?the .png has some good ideas ngl
>>545378857I do if I have specd into both subtrees, but I don't always take weapon specialist, so usually it's just oneBase toughness is the best stat you can get for survivability, without these nodes veteran has 115 toughness (100 base + 15 mandatory small node). +25 base toughness is like 20% toughness damage reduction, which also gets boosted by your curios.
>>545383928I didn't make it I found it on reddit
>>545383269Only because they thought they were getting admechI have no doubt that the ganger will have something very interesting and unique (dual wielding) to pull people in
>>545383689>Power Halberd please.>need to manage distance>one mark has fast long range swipes but has no cleave if you hit people with the pole>one mark has has power attack swipes but take awhile to chargechoose your fate.
>>545379404>doesn't understand how toughness worksWhen you get hit you lose flat toughness, when you kill you earn % toughnessMore flat toughness = less % toughness lost on hit, less damage leaked to your hp, and less kills to refill your toughness back to 100%
>>545384208ok thank you
>>545383831>>takes 4 business days to pull out, as opposed to the regular bolter's 2 business daysThe heavy bolt would absolutely take half a millenia to pull out but I can see Sisters have a node that makes ranged weapon swaps faster.
>>545383831What if Heavy Bolter had another requirement where it locked you out from using 2-handed melee weapons?
>>545383831>>545384170Some would call it a test of faith.
>>545384573>>545384418Just make it a combat ability at that point. No shout, no chorus, no frills, you just pull out a big fuckoff gun like PBB, but instead of a duration, it just has limited ammo that only begins to refill when you run out.>looger overlapdon't care
>>545383536>>545383689They could just give zealot a power armor cosmetic and then power halbers and shield weapons.
>>545384712>combat ability where you magically summon a heavy bolterI hate that idea with a passion.
>>545384712>>545384794NahSkibitarii are gonna get that in the form of a shoulder cannon
>>545384794>magically summonOnly because fatshark decided, in their infinite wisdom, that you must carry some retarded cosmetic on your back. It would obviously make more sense to have it strapped to you somehow.Where does my arbitrator put his shield or shotgun when I weapon swap?
>>545384712>darktide's outcast engineerThe concept would work better with an admech class.
>>545384942>Where does my arbitrator put his shield or shotgun when I weapon swap?On his back.Or uses a sling and puts the shotgun on his shoulder.
>>545384768They would have done that already if they intended to. But the decision fatshark made to give Zealots Crusader, Priest, Missionary, and Death Cult Assassin cosmetics but no power armor further makes me believe the next class or a future class is Sister of Battle. Also reminder that there is a cosmetic in game that is a broken power armor pack. Maybe its foreshadowing.
>>545385198Soon...
All the Darktide youtubers have strongly hinted that the next class will be a Ganger. Don't know why you retards are still yapping about SoB or Mechanicus lol
>>545385503yes and she will have a visible belly button and come with new cute faces and i will finally become the cute girl i always wanted to be
>>545385503>SoBLiterally never>mechanicusNext class after ganger>why you retards are still yappingBecause they are less interested in tge ganger
>>545384208>less kills to refill your toughness back to 100%It's Darktide, you're not hurting for targets to kill. If your build is planned around surviving bad situations instead of preventing them by increasing your lethality, you're gonna be the one being carried. +25 on top of another +25 makes no significant difference for the point cost.
>>545385296None of the things you listed doesn't mean it's impossible for Fatshark to add a power armor cosmetic.Them making a power armor backpack can just be taken as foreshadowing of them adding power armor cosmetics eventually.
>>545385687this but unironically
i'm getting back into darktide, last time i played the only thing to do was get to 30 and farm a perfect weapon roll, weapons seem way easier to get now so i'm just gonna focus on making a build for arbites to get into havoc/maelstrom/auric, what should i be looking for while i'm still getting the feel back for the game
>>545385503The fact that they all hinted at it means its not ganger. Its called a bait and switch and they're under NDA. Why would they hint at something thats in the game if they're under NDA?
>>545385708>>SoB>Literally neverCope
>>545386021What exactly am i coping with?
>>545385906>Why would they hint at something thats in the game if they're under NDA?so they don't break the NDA
>>545385790>what should i be looking for while i'm still getting the feel back for the gameFun.If you're still leveling weapons, this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/395 be aware that sacrificing the same weapon type gives vastly more progression exp.This is only worth it if you're desperate to skip leveling for whatever reason. It's very expensive to do if you're already low on resources.>havocDon't take it seriously, it'll be too difficult for you to climb until you're comfortable with clutching and carrying 3 shitters through maelstroms. Also arbites is one of the least popular classes to invite, so get ready to host. Play veteran or psyker if you want to be invited.Talk to Dukane, but then win a maelstrom so it catapults your rank up. Play until you get stuck, then focus on your fun first and foremost. You'll get a weekly resource crate based on the highest rank you achieved, but until you adapt to the havoc meta, climbing will suck, and doing so naturally sucks anyway because the 20-30 bracket is full of hardstuck retards. Also the current havoc season is cancer.
>>545385790Focus on Auric/Auric Maelstrom in the mean time. >>545386057Yeah but being under NDA means they wouldn't say shit about it meaning the more they yap about ganger the less likely it is.
>>545386021SoB already exist in Darktide.Just take stun/flame grenades, benediction, Fotf and martyrdom.And then just equip a relic blade + bolter or flamer
>>545385790Get a good bolter and arbites shock maul and get melk points to trade for curios
>>545385906Mister Estrogen is not THAT loved by Fatshark.Source: I know
>>545385503>Anons first gayops
>>545386182>SoB already exist in Darktide.No. >Just take stun/flame grenades, benediction, Fotf and martyrdom.No. Also only a minority of Sisters are melee specialists. >And then just equip a relic blade + bolter or flamerNo.
>>545386186>Source: I knowYou know its not ganger or you know it is ganger or you know fatshark doesn't love Mister E?
>>545386271Cope
>>545386140NDAs just mean you aren't allowed to outright say what X thing might be.You're still allowed to make "speculation" videos and list potential candidates as to what class it might be and then at "random" you are allowed to choose a class that "might" get added.Like if someone like mister E came out and flat out and said>"The new class will be a hive ganger and it will have X Y and Z as abilities, and the class will have A B and C as unique weapons"Then Fatshark could take legal action and they would definetly revoke their contract and kick him out.They can't take legal action against any of the creator who are just making harmless "speculation" videos.
SoB are just too juiced up, they are like ogryn height.
>>545386437Its not cope. Its faith.Also the exact hairstyle in this pic is already in the game, bald in the back and everything.
>>545386637Yeah yeah yeah. We get itYou're trans
>>545386562No they're not you retard. They're normal human height. They're normal humans. Where do you people get your factions and why do you think its canon?
>>545386637>Also the exact hairstyle in this pic is already in the gameSo? Just use it on your female zealot.
>>545385716Keeping your toughness full is exactly how you prevent bad situationsIf you're so tough then surely you don't take that 10% toughness damage resistance node, do you?
>>545386824*raises paw*I take +10% toughness on my zealot
>>545386708>trans out of nowhereHoly mental illness >>545386760This image makes no sense Power Armor has a built in climate control system. >>545386797Why should when I'm not even gonna use that hairstyle on my Sister of Battle character?
>>545386886*Glomps u*Very good anon!
>>545386903>out of nowhereIt's pretty obvious, dude
>>545385790Check brunt's store every hour for 410+ power curios
>>545386903>Why should when I'm not even gonna use that hairstyleThen you really don't like sisters of battle.You already have everything in the game to make your own SoB.
>>545386117>>545386140>>545386183i'm mainly just queuing up for heresy/damnation quickplay to chill and farm fodder weapons while i try out new talent/weapon builds, is stuff like the cyber-mastiff damage actually good, or should i be focusing more on my damage and have the dog just be a nice little extraworking towards something kinda like this for now:https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a048f185-dbb5-4416-aba9-a7bac73d24a1/test-75
>>545386824>Keeping your toughness full is exactly how you prevent bad situationsPrecisely my point. The opportunity cost incurred getting both +25 pips directly impacts your ability to kill and manage a fight because your build is shit. It's not just one point either, you have to spend a minimum of 4 just to get to the other one, 8 to 10 if you're trying to go down the marksman branch. It's genuinely not worth it.I guess it might be an alright build if you decide to stand front and present yourself as a target, but then again, you're better off just playing Zealot or Arbites if you want to do that.
>>545387004You think that because you're obsessed with trannies and see them everywhere.Get help dude. >>545387245You know nothing about sisters or zealots or the lore.
>>545387356>and see them everywhereNot everywhere, just when i look at you
>>545386516NDA means you aren't allowed to publish information that was revealed to you after you signed the NDA. That's why they double down on muh broker codename leak, because it came from the outside source, and is not subject to NDA.>You're still allowed to make "speculation"You really aren't if you didn't know it before signing the NDA.
>>545387409you're not looking at me you're looking at text on a screen are you confusing me for your own reflection?
>>545383689>>545383831>>545384573Heavy bolter should be ogryn exclusive. It's cooler that way.
>>545387513This. Which is why the next class is thankfully not Ganger.>>545387682Why in the emperors name do you think that a) The imperium would let a fucking Ogryn use a heavy bolterb) The imperium would MAKE a heavy bolter with a mechanism large enough for an ogryn c) An ogryn would have the skill to use a Heavy bolter
Ogryn should be able to dual wield two heavy bolters with another 2 shoulder mounted heavy bolters for a total of 4 heavy bolters
>>545387783>This. Which is why the next class is thankfully not GangerPlsase don't quote me when you go full retard
>>545387878Its not gonna be ganger fatshark would not make much profit and they know it.
>>545387783you're gonna feel reeeeeeeal silly next week
>>545387682Ogryns would get an autocannon they would never get a heavy bolter.
>>545387513>NDA means you aren't allowed to publish information that was revealed to you after you signed the NDAAnd they aren't publishing any info.They are just making "speculation" videos about what the next class may be.All the youtubers did this speculation shit with the short trailer we got and pretty much all of them (the ones partnered up with Fatshark) started saying arbites before it was officially revealed at skulls.It's just going to be ganger. That's the new class.
The next class will be a Tau, the only class that can take two ranged weapons.
>>545388202no don't, you're going to summon him
>>545388250>TauLOLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R66Rqe_hrI
>>545388359summon whom?
The next class will be _shit_
>>545388394the antiautocanonanon
No, it'll be a Ratling with hairy feet
>>545388482Why would they make a Ratling its only weapon options would be a longlas, a lasgun, a laspistol and some autoguns, and a combat knife.
>>545387783>a) The imperium would let a fucking Ogryn use a heavy bolterOgryns are strong and already use heavy weapons which are usually mounted on vehicles. Like twin stubbers.>b) The imperium would MAKE a heavy bolter with a mechanism large enough for an ogrynThey can make anything they want. We already have the forgeworld Lorenz mentioned in Darktide and it's a forgeworld that specializes in making heavy weapons, and as a side gig they make "man portable" versions that are used by ogryns. Namely the rumbler and kickback are these weapons>c) An ogryn would have the skill to use a Heavy bolterOgryns in this game can already use the single stubbers to dome a retard from like 100+ meters away just holding their gun up and squinting a bit.Also using a heavy bolter could literally just work like the ripper guns, burst fire + full auto (only when braced)
>>545388202>autocannonAchlys single stubber.
>>545388694>Ogryns are strong and already use heavy weapons which are usually mounted on vehicles.A heavy bolter is an expensive piece of machinery and takes some skill to use. They would never allow ogryns to have them under normal circumstances. >They can make anything they want.Yeah but they wouldn't because Ogryns are abhuman filth and 3rd class citizens not to mention they're too fucking stupid to handle any weapons that are too complex to use. >Ogryns in this game can already use the single stubbers to dome a retard from like 100+ meters away just holding their gun up and squinting a bit.The imperium does not care. You're getting an autocannon, MAYBE a lascannon if you're really lucky. You will never ever get a heavy bolter.
>>545388949>You're getting an autocannondon't give me hope
>>545388812thats a stubber not an autocannon.
>>545387579I don't need to see your dick bulging through your skirt to know you're a fucking trooner
>>545388949>nuh uhWe are getting heavy bolters.We already got autocannons with the single stubbers.
>>545389197Autocannons and Single Stubbers are completely different weapons.An Autocannon is quite literally a fucking canon. Its a portal tank canon.
i hope the new class is admechi would buy so many cosmetics
>>545388949How are heavy bolters more complex than a ripper gun?Just pull the trigger and fire.Empty mag? Just tear the empty one off and jam in a new one and pull the bolt to chamber a round. (ogryns already do this with the stubbers)
Ogryns will never get bolters because of the explosion fire talent
>>545389321Anon, that picture you posted is quite literally just the achlys mk2 stubber but upside down.
>>545389506Then why did we get rumblers then?
>>545389376Heavy Bolters and Bolters in general are complex pieces of machinery that actually require skill to use effectively, and extremely expensive to make and maintain and get ammo for.They're not gonna give that weapon to an ogryn who's either just gonna break it, or waste its expensive fucking ammo just to miss almost every shot.A ripper gun is as of a weapon as you can get. Its a brainlet weapon. Its designed to be retard proof, cus Ogryns are retards. Its made to fire rapidly and stop on its own to keep Ogryns from wasting all the ammo, its close range firing so ogryns can miss less, and its builty sturdy as hell cus ogryns are clumsy and are as likely to hit someone with it as they are to shoot with it.
>>545388475That sounds like a german word.
do anyone use the new, more explosive bolt marks? they feel like downgrades
>>545389706Yeah, aiming and pulling the trigger and reloading are so immeasurably complex.
>>545389515No its not, not at all.
>>545389907That is just achlys mk2.
>>545389805They are downgrades in every way but I still use the boltgun, because of the one tap hipfire. It's just comfy.
Grenade launcher when?Rocket launcher when?Longlas when?Dual wield melee when?Dual shredders when?MORE STAVES WHEN?
>>545389882Yes aiming well with this thing, and maintaining it is complex. It also requires constant maintenance which Ogryns can never be trusted to be smart or skilled enough to do. It also has a high chance of jamming if used incorrectly.
>>545390049No its not. Heavy Stubbers are used to chew through and suppress low armored/non-armored enemies.Autocannons are used to chew through carapace armored infantry, power armored infantry, and tanks.
Here's your new autocannon, bro.
>>545390453>>545390049wrong pic but no its not. >>545390580Yeah and thats exactly what you're getting bitch.
>>545390280>Yes aiming well with this thing, and maintaining it is complexOgryns in darktide can already snipe human sized targets 100+ meters away without even using iron sights. They can handle aiming the heavy bolter easily.The weapon maintenance is done by Hadron and her goons, ogryns don't need to do maintenance on their weapons.Even ripper guns have a high chance of jamming, doesn't prevent ogryns from using them though.
>>545389706All of this is true but the darktide ogryn is a 1 in a billion super genius compared to the average, lore-accurate ogryn.
>>545390804The imperium doesn't care about your cope. You're never getting a Heavy Bolter, you're never getting a Heavy Flamer, and you're CERTAINLY never getting a Multimelta.
>>545390804This is game mechanics handwavium, you silly willy.
>>545390834Lore accuracy doesn't matter in darktide anyway.We already have regular humans killing ogryns in carapace armor and killing hellish monstrosities like chaos spawn, and then we have arbites fighting poxwalkers even though that is below their pay grade.Ogryns getting heavy bolters would be one of the more sensible things the devs could do.
>>545390834>darktide ogryn is a 1 in a billion super genius compared to the average,K. The Imperium is still not gonna make and provide heavy bolters for ogryn filth.
>>545390931We will be getting heavy bolters in the next update, we are never getting autocannons thoughbeit.
>>545391037>then we have arbites fighting poxwalkers even though that is below their pay grade.Kill-count chaser mindset.Piggers are not fighting poxers for the sake of fighting poxers, they're just an obstacle that stands between them and the objective. Speed-running levels and running past threats that don't directly get in the way is, in fact, lore-accurate to darktide's microcosm.
>Ogryniggers think the imperium would actually give abhumans expensive and valuable gearLol. Lmao even.
>>545391326Speed running is only done by trannies, and troons are illegal in the imperium.
>>545391312Source?
>>545389646Because rumblers shoot much fewer shots
>>545391441t. complains to STOP RUSHINGGGG while walking backwards through the level to kill singular poxers
>>545391441The imperium is completely indifferent to trannies. There's also likely plenty of inquisitors and nobles who use advanced tech to transition.
>>545391441The mechanicus is ALL about transhumanism
>>545391353But we already get power mauls? All power weapons are expensive and valuable.
>>545391646its not a true power weapon. Its just a glorified shock maul. >>545389805I do. I like the mk3 bolter its more fun to use than the mk2b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94CG5J3cYHwIt's over.
>>545391482I'm a playtester.
>>545391787Stop advertising
>>545391847OBEY HER CAT
>>545391787We won.
>>545391772It is a power weapon though?
>>545391937There's not enough art of SoB getting slaughtered it's my fetish
>>545391805If you're not shitposting then that Heavy Bolter is Sororitas property.
>>545391940yeah its a cheap power weapon not a true one.>>545392094its their fetish too
>>545391787Holy shit how can you play with m+k and still look like you're playing on controller
>>545390804>Ogryns in darktide can already snipe human sized targets 100+ meters away without even using iron sights.gameplay mechanics =!= in-universe lorewait til you hear that in the lore you can't actually beat 20 armored ogryns with just a blessed pocket knife
>>545392275>howBy having a sensitivity so low, it takes your entire mousepad to do a 360, and also having acceleration/smoothing enabled. Some retards unironically play like that.
For real though, when fatshark released arbites, they said more weapons were planned but they couldn't release them immediately. Since we got nothing in bound by doody, chances are, the new weapon(s) will be shared with the upcoming class.So, what class can it be then? Do we perhaps have leaks for new weapons? I can imagine arbites sharing weapons with sisters of battle. Not so much with gangers, but gangers could loot weapons from enforcers, and these weapons may be the same arbites use.Admech? No chance.Eldar? No chance.
playing the train heist mission is so funny because I remember back when it released the rhetoric was "oh nice we're gonna start getting much shorter but more hectic and differently paced missions, it should take less time for Fatshark to make these. pretty cool" then we just continued to get nothing lol
>>545392440>they said more weapons were planned but they couldn't release them immediatelyWe got a new bolter mark and a new bolt pistol mark. It doesn't matter that they're literally unusable dogshit complete and total downgrades in every appreciable way, one can still interpret them to be "new weapons". You'd have to point me to an official fatshark statement saying otherwise to convince me.I have zero expectations for new weapons used by classes other than the next DLC, who should absolutely get something new that will most likely be exclusive.
We are at the point where fatshark seriously needs to come out publically to tell everyone that the SoB class is never happening. I'm tired of having this pointless discussion
>>545392601Nobody ever said that.
>>545392760fat shark is not responsible for the neuroticism and attention whoring of people within the community, this is a self inflicted issue
>>545392684>You'd have to point me to an official fatshark statement saying otherwise to convince me.Nah I just forgot these exist. They said new weapons will be shared with other classes and it checks out.
>>545391787That person sounds unhealthy.
>>545392684>>545392980I'm still pissed off with how utterly dogshit the new bolters are, yet plebbit malicelets still huff lethal doses of copium to argue that they fill a different niche.What niche, killing 2 malice poxwalkers in 4 shots at the ground? Hipfire sniping, as if the boltgun can't already do that by literally quickscoping?
>>545393016She's fat
>>545393272Well, hipfire sniping is actually a very good point, it's like a bolt pistol with extended magazine.
>>545393272a buff to the explosive aoe is certainly warranted
>>545393532It takes 2 business days to equip, and the boltgun just requires that you press a button. Arguing that this somehow makes a mark that is a downgrade in every conceivable way valid or viable is extremely retarded. The bolt pistol is still better in every relevant way because it equips almost instantly and has much better mobility.>>545393561If they would just change its damage type to allow Puncture to function, it could potentially be borderline overpowered.Which only reminds me of how fucking shit the blessing system is. I hope the next major update reworks that completely, because the current system is fucking retarded with the (also fucking retarded) gacha mechanics having been axed.
>>545392440The angle of gangers using stolen arbites weapons sounds pretty cool honestly.Maybe not the shotguns but something like the grenade launchers would work.
>>545394237I don't think they had the chance to steal arbites weapons, but we don't really know what equipment did enforcers use because they only existed to sell skins for vanilla classes
>>545392105Sisters aren't going to be added. There's been a back and forth about what to do with sisters or if they are gonna fold everything sororitas related into zealot.Internally ogryn is regarded as the "heavy weapon class" so that's why he is getting it. Also there is constant debate over if they should give vets the heavy stubbers as well or not since he is thought more as the ranged sniper class.
>>545267271Get Back In The Fight makes you immune to the slowdown effect of fireit used to be a tax node you'd take basically every time before the vet re-workmaybe that's why you're only now noticing that fire slows you down?
>>545394490Easy, just loot the weapons off of a dead arbites. Or just steal a shipment.Arbites aren't invincible or present everywhere.Also it's obvious that fatshark is using Necromunda as heavy inspiration for darktide, and you can see how strong some of the gangs in it are.Like goliaths who are basically miniature ogryns but still smart.
>>545394606Wrong.
>>545394606>Also there is constant debate over if they should give vets the heavy stubbers as well or not since he is thought more as the ranged sniper class.Veteran should get heavy ranged weapons so veteran can function as a heavy gunner. It's the lack of actually useful weapons and/or tree support to actually allow that sort of play. The plasma gun is the closest thing, and it's really good at doing that in aurics, but as soon as you try it in havoc you become a pointless ammo hog. Bolter is the next best thing, but magdumping it is unfortunately pretty bad. Recon las at least lets you LARP as a sort of heavy gunner and mow down less armored hordes, but that is owed entirely to the skill tree supporting it really fucking hard.In the mind of fatshark, the answer is probably>just use the braced autogun chuddienot realizing, due to crippling maliceletness, that it's one of the shittest guns imaginable, even when fully supported by a tardstancing arbitrator holding down the trigger for half a minute.
>>545391787This settles it. Sisters are confirmed.
>>545392440Sister of Battle and the game will FINALLY introduce Meltagun which will be shared with Vet, and Zealot.
>>545395312https://youtu.be/WuN7RvX7R78
>>545259247the only one I use is Psych Wardbecause holy shit it's so useful to be able to check the vendors and such without loading into the mourningstar for each operative separately
Hive ganger female will tease male zealots. Sexually
>>545395501Rude. I'll expect an apology from you next week.
>>545395809>Middle blitz is throwing a massive pole into the enemy >Activate it again to do a sensual twirl as she attacks people around her
Place your're are a bets!!!Will gangers use default human models or have unique models like the ogryn!?!?
>Rusher shitter that I never want to see again>Blocklist full>Go and remove a non-russian from blocklist to make space>Can't block the guy anymore because he went offline
>>545395948default human modelsexisting melee animations from other weaponsone new face added per gender, both more hideous than ever before conceived
>>545278256I'm that guyIf I'm playing aurics I ain't bringing my best&brightest buildI'm just trying to have some funthough I do admit it's not really fun if the rest of the team sucks and I have to carry with a suboptimal loadout
>>545392105You could probably put a Heavy Bolter on one of those funny Mechanicus rigs.
>>545278256I don't even play havoc and I like testing new builds in aurics. It's baseline to me now so whatever man.
All y'all niggas ain't know it yet, but this the best toughness regen talent in the arbeetus tree
>>545397625Yes but retards who failed 5th grade math class are autistically obsessed with taking Lone Wolf so you'll never get it through to this general
>>545395813No, within six months.
the game needs a medic class
>>545397762shock mines > everything elseand lone wolf giving infinite shock mines is too good to pass up
>>545397625retarded question but I assume the dog can proc this entirely on its own or do you have to actually kill whatever its pounced on?
>>545398025Shock mines are completely unnecessary overkill in auricShock mines are a crutch, because holding enemies in place for longer than a couple seconds isn't necessary when you can kill the horde fast enough, and you don't get a whole-ass horde every minuteYou can still bring shock mines with the dog, and if your (havoc) team is good, you won't need more than the 2This is possibly different in the 20-30 hardstuckie bracket where good teams don't exist, but I don't play with sub-humans so I don't have that frame of reference.
>>545382146Indian chad mayor of NYC, step aside white bois.
>>545397625Every bite during the pounce also gives 10% toughness from Force of Will, and Target Neutralized gives even more. Without coherence.>>545398181You don't need to do shit.
>>545306805>this person literally plays no games other than darktide, and spends most of their free time playing darktide. Or long-term unemploymentI'm literally thisbut I still have only 2500 hours in darktidethere's only so much time even with all the time in the world
>>545398184oh you're talking about havoc 40, yeah sorry i don't play turboautism mode so my opinion does not apply
>>545382146>>545398243too obvious sanjay back to the ‘cord
>>545398416If you think shock mines are in any way necessary in auric, that is a skill issue. Yes, even during crusher spam. No, you don't need to magdump a bolter into them either, you just need to learn the melee.Lone Wolf isn't bad either, it's just explicitly auric where shock mines are pointless. Just use frags. You have more than enough stagger to clean any survivors up in melee, and they actually affect bosses (which are an even bigger threat to your retards) unlike shock mines. Frags also allow you to bring the bolter without feeling the godawful equip time, since frags just delete disablers you would otherwise pull out your gun for.
>>545398550cope and seethe lol
>>545397625does this still work if the dog ends up killing it before i do? does it still work if the dog kills it but is super far away (I sent him after a sniper)
>>545383884Votann aren’t “obscure” they’re getting the most attention out of all the abhumans by far pretty sure >>545382463Lol.
>>545398646nah i think i'll just bring lone wolf and enjoy having a free get-out-of-jail card for my retarded teammates every 60s, i appreciate the insight though
>>545398184I'm in the high 20s since I didn't give a fuck about havoc back when it was the new shiny thing to do. They save the run every once in a while but usually my team will just be unable to kill armor fast enough for the shock mines to even matter, which is an insane thing to think about given how long the mines stay active and how many you can spam with lone wolf. I gotta start bringing the dog along more.
I don't care if arbeetus can be more optimal, if someone joins my run with shock mines that helps make mixed packs easier I appreciate them all the same.
>>545398807Using what you like is based and valid, but that doesn't make the thing you like "better" in any way, just more fun, which is subjective.>>545398882If your retards can't kill enemies during the duration of your shock mine, the dog won't help, and LW is likely better anyway with extremely bad teams. The actual issue is one of team composition + builds, but even if you've got those locked down, the veteran can also suffer extremely crippling skill issues and cost you the run by wasting or refusing to use kraks correctly, and/or spamming all of his plasma ammo cleaving a horde and letting all the shooters live for some reason.
>>545398701See >>545398371
>>545398184>Shock mines are a crutchwhat a silly statement. Shock mines are just stun grenades with extra steps. They do the same thing. They are run-savers and clutch tools, nice to have for both auric and havoc.
>>545399221By that logic, to justify Lone Wolf, you'd need to save the run or clutch every 60 seconds, which points to substantial problems just about everywhere else.
>>545399072shock mines made smyggers obsolete
>>545365807Where the fuck do you think they got the idea of a god-emperor of mankind, immobile yet all-knowing? That's lifted directly from Dune.
>>545399427people forget just how much Dune influenced sci-fi
>>545399427Classic Warhammer was corny as all hell and I love it for that.
>>545386269>>545386437>>545386667this>>545386562nah they’re regular humans they just have power armor>>545387783>>545388202>>545388949>>545389706>>545390804yeah our ogryns are not regular Ogryns as we already know and im pretty sure there’s precedent for them using it in lore even if not common so the complexity argument is not really relevant that said i don’t much care for it either also rippers are specially modified for Ogryn use, that auto stop fire is something used for them alone
>sob shitposter wakes up>thread goes to shit
>>545399912>nah they’re regular humans they just have power armorNo
>>545391441Trvke.>>545391632>>545391636Cope.
>>545399204that's sick, i will go full dog damage build, god i love jank pet ai
>>545400248>thread is about a game that flopped 3 years ago>thread is in a constant state of shitfixed
Something tells me he's going to do something crazy
>>545399167>The actual issue is one of team composition + buildsOn the topic of armor then, what are good ways to chew through crushers given those are the sole enemy I see most often causing my randos to go full retard.Crack™ with all the nade talents obviously.Maybe headshots with the bowling ball staff?Boring fucking dueling sword on 3/5 classes.Power sword w/ weapon spec. What else?
I sometimes need to remind myself that some of (You) most opinionated shitters struggle to even beat damnation.
I want melee only class to make shitters seethe in Darktide too
>>545400921I'm too good at special sniping to waste my talents in melee only
>>545394992>>just use the braced autogun chuddie>not realizing, due to crippling maliceletness, that it's one of the shittest guns imaginableWhat makes you think that the heavy stubber would be any different from the braced autoguns?That shit would quite literally just be Brauto but with higher fire rate + more bullets in the mag. It's quite literally braced autogun 2.0.
>>545392820careful you’ll trigger him>>545392861>>545393016>>545393734true enough
>>545397959Space marine apothecary soon :)>>545398550You triggered the brown xister well done
If the new class isn’t a robot guy or a hot chick I will be disappointed
>>545398184Chorus is a crutch.
>>545401283>or a hot chick
Ganger will get a unique stim blitz that can be converted to any other stim for an extra pointThis includes healing stims
>>545400921Only ones seething would be the people play melee only class, and they'd be seething because they get dogged or trappered because they literally gave up their best way to deal with specials.
>>545401367ratlings would be cool but we’re probably not getting them
>>545400701>arbitesRending builds. If the weapon has a rending blessing, use it. Concussive and the 15% rending in the bottom right also have some synergy here. If not Nuncio for team play, then BTL to knock over armor. Shield flashbang. Zap shotgun special to hold them in place. Shock mines should be a last resort, and are inversely useful with how good your team is. You don't even feel their presence with a team that chews through hordes. Skullcrusher.>ogrynStaggering them, mostly, but the 5% and 10% rending help a decent bit since a lot of your melee damage is bleed. Otherwise, pickaxes to deal substantial damage, and strategically holding taunt to interrupt a bad overhead. Most of what ogryn does is herding them for everyone else to kill more easily. BLO can afford to use the occasional rumbler shot for stagger. Skullcrusher.>psykerGet the zealot to apply brittleness for you, or use the blessing yourself. Psykers can rarely afford to melee since there's other shit in the armored horde that needs killing, but if there's a shock mine, or chorus being cast, it's fine. Dueling sword and deimos dicksword both work. Greatsword deals fucking enormous damage. Scrier's melee builds are strong. I don't remember whether shriek interrupts overheads, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't.>veteranKrak on the purple glowy ones. Krak on neatly bunched up crushers. Power sword or dueling sword on more singular or spread out crushers. Decline frag fags.>zealotThe usual weapon choices. Brittleness on the flamer to set up your team. Chorus to hold them bunched up inside a choke point for the veteran to krak. Shock maul special + dodge interrupt if running a low damage build.The actual solution is to install a mod that lets you inspect from party finder, host your own games, and decline retards who don't do any of the above. Ideally play the class that is populated with the most retards to avoid getting one of them, so likely vet or zealot.
This but SoB.
why is the indignatus so great vs unyielding but so shit vs carapace? seems a tad arbitrary
>>545401476Wow! I was skeptical at first, but everything I've been hearing about the Hive Ganger class makes it sound really cool! I can't wait to find out more about the new Darktide class at the Fatshark live stream on December 2. Turning the tables on the heretics with the help of a Hive Ganger is going to be epic!
>>545385198Actually not a bad look>>545383016I wonder how many more times this is going to be asked over the next week
>>545401886No one at fartshart knew what they were doing with the crusher changes and how that would affect 99% of the weapons.
>>545401367>>545401792They’ve already said thats not happening so yeah>>545400590What a strange outfit
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>>545401886>tries to kill a crusher with a crusherpaper doesn't beat paper, retard
>>545400394Except it’s not “constant”. It’s only when a particular 2-3 individuals are awake.
I sweat to god if the next class really ends up being "hive nigger with a crack pipe" I'm going to rev up the Semi Truck Of Peace and head for sweeden
>>545402357And they are all sl*vs
>>545401367Ratling would not be cool and thank god we're not getting them.
>>545402187>They’ve already said thats not happening so yeah>>545379467
>>545400590RIP Keith FlintWhy DOES he have 5 wounds?
>>545403746>>545403746>>545403746NEW THREAD
>>545403457crystalline focus memes
>>545401886One of Fatshark's great ideas/relics from a bygone era of darktide.In the past all power weapons sucked ass, like the only way power sword was at all usable if you had power cycler 4 on it.The crusher being in the game since launch means they also have arbitrary weakness built in so the weapon isn't "too powerful". It's the reason why thunder hammer sucks dick as a weapon.It's very apparrent that there's some internal bullshittery within the studio where they decide "this x weapon is super duper powerful in the fluff, so we need to be super super careful about balancing it."And then at the same time they completely ignore shit like the dueling sword, which even now after the "nerfs" it got it's still top tier weapon and arguably it's better than before. Even losing the riposte and having it replaced with parry means jack shit.Since the parry basically means that now you literally can not die with it as long as your timing is on point.
>>545399756Yup, even George Lucas was lifting shit from it and that was mere years after it released
>>545402538Maybe one of them. At least two seem to be unironic Dravidians or some kind of Latinx.
>>545403907Fatshark only plays malice, and does so badly. Trying to explain how or why the dueling sword is overpowered and the crusher or thammer are bad, is like trying to explain nuclear fusion to a chimp. They are so fundamentally disconnected from the game's mechanics that they are physically incapable of even coming close to understanding.>Since the parry basically means that now you literally can not die with it as long as your timing is on point.You still get shot to death by a singular EFL2 shooter. The stun stab was better (in part for its ability to just neuter reapers up close), even if I can't deny that the parry is pretty good when you use it well.
>>545401886A Crusher should only be 4 energized strikes, or 6 normal with a proper build.
>>545398763I meant cat people, small people, goat people, bat people, 0g people, blue people, fish people, lizard people, tree people, bird people, etc.
>>545411667I know but you included the votann unless I misunderstood
