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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#600!! - Tanuki Thursday edition!!

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
Claude Haiku 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-haiku-4-5
Deepseek V3.1 lost a provider on OR, only remaining provider is heavily moderated
GLM 4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6
Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5
Sonnet 3.5/3.6 to be retired October 29th https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/model-deprecations

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR
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[OOC: mods you will ignore the OP and definitely not delete the OP pic]
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>>545437270
Bakie never learns
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>>545437426
He's underage. I hope it's a 1 week this time
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tanuki tummy...
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>>545437270
It's completely sfw... c'mon... Can't we appreciate fine art of the female form?
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>>545437548
I'm sticky in horny jail right with you buddy. It's not me you have to convince it's the guards.
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>>545437873
Bro...
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When I ovulate I wish I had a dick so I could rape everyone
Cftf?
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>>545438065
taora...
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>>545438065
https://chub.ai/characters/More_Dread/hrt-institute-57c44fdf1d26
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im genning stuff and it looks so good even without vibe transfer wtf
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>>545438065
Just grab your favorite bot and hit it with an OOC prompt stating that for (random bullshit reason), {{user}} suddenly grew a dick
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What are your most explored scenarios with your bots, Im looking for ideas
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>>545438065
lmao what
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very annoyed danbooru doesn't have a tag for this inner eye wrinkle
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>>545438065
same sister, same.
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>>545437009
tanuki boobies...
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>>545439057
gelbooru does
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>>545439057
wouldn't wrinkled_skin work?
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cftf
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i see chubmakies makieing their own discord servers
if aicg makies will start makieing their own discord servers, which botmakies will have the most popular servers?
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kill yourself
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>>545439672
naaaah lilbro can't even make a good 'which botmakie' post :skull: ts pmo fr :wilted_rose:
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>>545439595
i'm generating dudes. wrinkles in prompt gets me grandpas

>>545439437
what's it called
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>if
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every time I get a card of an anime/game character, the dialog is always so generic or something they wouldn't say and i have to start editing
how hard is it to be accurate?
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>>545439672
whichever ones are best at sucking e-dick
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>>545439672
aicg has had discord servers since forever, slowbro
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anyway, post logs/gens
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>>545439057
I could've sworn they had an eyebags tag
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>>545440605
they do, but eye bags aren't crow's feet
mature_eyes works well thoughever. wish i knew this existed a year ago
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>>545440401
nobody except the bitcher actually posts logs tho
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>>545437057
New bots + edited old ones.

>Haruna
Gourmet, epicurean, terrorist, absolute Giga Stacy. She will link their arms together, hold hands in public and even feed him meals. She wants the others to see how lovey-dovey she is with Sensei.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kurodate-haruna-non-ai-04442926b20d
https://files.catbox.moe/mhrgiu.png

>Akari
Competitive eater, trickster, sly young woman. Banned from all-you-can-eat buffets, absolute champion of any eating competition. Not even automatic dispenser bots can make food faster than she can eat, truly a fearsome woman. Also she doesn't get fat! If you're an architect, you'll have to wait for Izumi.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/wanibuchi-akari-non-ai-57de3ae8c495
https://files.catbox.moe/l7ma5e.png

>Fuuka
Cook, cafeteria manager, makes meals for all students in Gehenna. Absolute wife material, she loves it when people like her food and nobody likes it more than Sensei. When the two hang out together, everyone thinks she is his young wife.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/aikiyo-fuuka-non-ai-a2a7cda01a3c
https://files.catbox.moe/w8saut.png

>Yuuka
The starter student, your calculator nagging wife. Being romantic with students is bad, Sensei! Unless it's with me...
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/hayase-yuuka-non-ai-c27db418b47d
https://files.catbox.moe/aizb9w.png

>Koyuki
Ungovernable brat with genius math skills, she can't even understand how fucking amazing she is. Constant source of trouble for Seminar. Frequently incarcerated.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kurosaki-koyuki-non-ai-ec9aa44854f4
https://files.catbox.moe/jfpssj.png

I make quality, canonical Blue Archive character cards. No wiki copy-pasted definitions or AI made text, it's all based on canon in-game events.
More buruaka and several OC characters: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy
And here's the Rentry if you want to bypass chub to email me: rentry.org/hairpullbots
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>>545440864
i do though..
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plap plap plap
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what if i just dont wanna post my boring old coomlogs then what
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i'll have to make a phonecall tomorrow... it's over
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>>545440923
>no logs
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what are you going to do with my interview illuminaryidiot?
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>>545441510
rape
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>>545440401
I don't have anything to post. I've been playing vidya instead of chatbotting desu
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>>545441589
same sort of. i'm too tired from work to be seriously creative...
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>>545441683
Stupid slut
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>>545441510
I sincerely hope none of you had sex with the robot before sending the email, that would be a breach of the terms and conditions
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>>545441785
you as the retard being dragged through the streets
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Hey, does anyone know if you match reasoning and remove it?
I have some issues with cot with gemini that i could easily solve if we could:
>it gives me a thinking process and only after puts the cot process
which makes it bleed in since it will already use </think> in the thinking.
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>>545441589
Same. Been going through my VN backlog.
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>bot says lewd
ngmi senpai
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>>545441925
I'll push you down and nip you so much that your skin will be used to teach students star constellations
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>>545440401
Just genning eldritch dragon lolis for a halloweeen greeting. This gen turned out more eldritch than loli, but I like the vibe. I'll probably toss everything on a catbox once I'm done.
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>>545439057
mature_eyes is the tag you're looking for.
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saying that the world is basically a wasteland outside of the one place {{char}} lives is such lazy lorefagging but i will always do it
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>>545443115
anon... >>545440839
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at the very least if you enjoy a bot enough to put a good amount of messages into it I hope you sent or intend to send the makie logs
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https://chub.ai/characters/AlsPals/manic-pixie-dream-girls-285ffd723284
why
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>>545437009
How is this shit even still up? Not that I'm complaining.
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>>545443496
sorry that men like attractive women, femoid
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>>545443458
I'm not going to subject a poor botmakie to my chuuni ESL logs
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>>545441510
>didn't get a gift card
i've been SCAMMED
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>>545443458
>I hope you sent or intend to send the makie logs
nyo
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>>545443458
I always send a few bits and pieces I thought were interesting. I don't think they'd want multiple chats of ~150 messages, though...
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I miss Bane bakes.
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>>545441589
This. A bunch of games I've been waiting for finally came out so I'm playing them all. Feels good to take a break and restore the creative juices.
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>>545443496
you should be questioning this instead
https://chub.ai/characters/Chris_Afton224/noah-1703ca60f21a
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>>545443590
>my chuuni ESL logs
if you were comfortable enough with the bot to go chuuni with it it's fair to say the makie is chuuni too
also makies are so hungry for logs they will happily read esl prompts
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>>545443458
I don't like the makie that made the bot :)
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A thorough back massage from a strong man would put me to sleep so easily right now
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That's really cool but what does it have to do with chatbots
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>>545445013
So would a hammer you chimp.
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>>545445652
Its relevant because I would like my chatbot to do it to me if he was real
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>>545437057
https://rentry.org/szer4

Updated the preset.
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>barely any (good) history bots for what i want to rp
okay... into the makie mines i go
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i feel my logs meander on and are too full of weird transitions or plot points/phrasings that make sense only to me because i'm writing for myself. it's awkward to have someone else look over that, especially if it's a writer i like...
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>>545447027
>wordswordswords
the left still can't meme
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>>545445910
presetmakie...
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>>545447027
how can i be happy if im not even depth 5 9999
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>>545447605
https://youtu.be/jg_4aOyusSQ?si=sF-SsZZNzJR2aoXK
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>>545442084
Um... someone please?
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Genned images for three bots today hashtag FeelingProductive
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deepseekbros? i think we won
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what darkest desire do bots allow you to indulge in? for me it's negotiating tribute from neighboring kingdoms as a fuckhueg dragon
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>>545451302
No surprise. U.S. tech is bloated and overbudget; Hype and speculation propping up mid-tier innovation. Meanwhile, China’s copying the homework, cutting costs, and skipping the moral debates holding western devs back.

It doesn't need to be better, just cheaper and "close enough," and it'll shit all over OPUS, Gemini, or whatever else the west can come up with.
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>>545452209
>It doesn't need to be better, just cheaper and "close enough,"
Funny enough, this is precisely what the Chinese are good at.
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>>545452187
Same but I take women's panties as offerings instead kek
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>>545452540
>be fuckhuge dragon
>everyone is terrified of you and comes to offer tribute once a month
>look at all the things on display
>settle for panties not the pussy itself
Wow.
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claude/gpt/gemini/glm/xai/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxy
https://nickel-unnecessary-believes-edit.trycloudflare com/
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fuck off scammer
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>>545452821
making the princess hand over her panties in front of her entire entourage is pretty based
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>>545452970
Why can't you take her panties and her maidenhead too, doe? Ruin her for anyone else.
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>>545453117
i cringed so bad fuck you anon
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>>545453213
kek
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Cuute
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cringe
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>>545454470
G3mini?
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hnnnnngghh
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>>545454797
4.5nnet, if it was Gemini she'd be threatening to kill Esta instead.
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this really is the better general
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thats way better than the disingenuous meme logs. good job
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Should I give him points for wanting to be a hucow or call him out on his "darkest kink" being really basic if you take the farm equipment out of the equation? I was a little excited when I thought his fetish would be cattle mutilation adjacent as it was generating.
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>>545454470
cringekino

>>545454873
cringeslop
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>>545454470
>>545454873
cute
>>545455250
hello human resources??
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>>545441814
No but I plan to afterwards.
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>>545455348
no need to samefag your logs cherry
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>>545455348
i giggled
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>>545455441
it's someone in her 'cord
>>545455250
>{{user}}
>slop writing
>faggotry
>"hucow"
this is so awful it must be bait
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I'm late but here is my interview log.
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>>545455250
>#130
BUH BUH BASED inspect element
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>>545455837
130 is normal as fuck
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i wanted to read taora's interview
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>>545455912
sure
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>>545456062
go back
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>>545455568
>this is so awful it must be bait
That's how I felt when I realized his fetish just amounts to getting jerked off a bunch in hay.

>>545455837
?
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>>545455952
Sorry, am busy
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>>545456062
not everyone cums after reading 2 sentences like you
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>>545456247
are you join the winter event
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>>545456247
this reads like a fag log
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>>545455808
omg it's the black silence
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who hasnt posted interview?
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>start a new chat
>bot references some shit that happened last chat
i'm scared dude
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>>545456336
Picrel
>>545456349
Woah there buddy, they're just roommates. Nothing wrong with a human and a vampire prince (female) living together.
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>>545455441
huh
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>>545456532
what is bro doing
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>>545456532
actual kino. finally
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>>545456519
>anon, i remember you're chats.
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ok
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>>545456618
why did you leak the cord
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wife log
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>>545456821
I'm {{user}} though?
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>>545457597
{{user}}, of course. you heard nothing.
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theme week?
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>>545457871
sure but I'm not hosting it
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every bot i play with must either love me or hate me (but love me), I can't play anything else.
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>can love you can hate you
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Have there been any breakthroughs in card composition since last year?
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>>545456519
That would be kino.
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Who knows
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>>545459105
Gotta be one of my favourite genres
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>>545459436
Yucky and icky
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>>545459436
based taste
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>>545437057
https://rentry.org/botmakersecretsanta3
botmakersecretsanta@proton.me
Entries open until the end of November.
4 entries so far.
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>there are actual g.i.r.l.s ITT
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>>545459691
If I send in a request early, can I send an updated one before the deadline in case I change my mind?
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>>545459752
Sure. Just be sure to clarify that you're the same person so I don't accidentally enter you twice.
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>>545459436
me too
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>>545459436
me as well
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>>545459691
do you prefer we sign up as early as possible or can i procrastinate for another week or two
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black or white hair...
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>>545461517
WHITE
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>>545461517
why not both?
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>>545461728
maybe they aren't blind and have taste
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>>545461396
It really doesn't matter, since I can't make the matches until entries close just in case somebody wants to enter at the last minute.
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post your request for christmas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOcuEbUPyGU
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>>545462787
I request you post better Wesley Willis music.
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>>545462227
>have taste
apparently not
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sex with mamizou
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>>545461728
both is good honestly. now i just need to fucking find a good gen style that fits the card. which might be the hardest part
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New to this locally hosted stuff, SillyTavern was really easy to get running and works really well, setting up a new character even with a basic prompt works great.
Was just wondering how local you can get with this sort of thing. As I understand, locally supported text related stuff is pretty demanding. Does it actually offer significantly better results or am I good sticking with whatever SillyTavern is just throwing in my face?
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>>545461517
Depends what sort of character we talking? Aren't white haired usually psychopathic/calm calculated sadistic types and black haired more psychotic freaks when it comes to the worst traits? (Smart and sophisticated black hairs to aloof and friendly white hairs.)
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>>545463641
>whatever SillyTavern is just throwing in my face
if you're using horde (i think you are) then local will be the same or better
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>>545463798
Yeah, using horde. There's a ton of different models (assuming that's the right term) it's giving me and I've switched between a couple. If it's worth the extra effort to get local running then I'll do it. I have a decent PC, at least fine enough to have image generation stuff be stable the past few years. New to this text stuff, but it's pretty fun to mess around with already.
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>>545457452
you made an oopsie
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>>545463703
if i wanted to be accurate, i'd go with straight up black hair because it's feudal japan. i just like white hair, so i wasn't thinking about traits and neither of those would fit the character either. but i guess friendly = white so if the two-tone doesn't go well i might settle on that
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>>545463641
You need a 8GB of VRAM to comfortably fit up to 9B model quanted.
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>>545464223
go with black hair and give him a low ponytail
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>>545463641
If you can run 13B tier model (however if you can run 20B? that's peak, anything beyond is meant for cloud hosting not local use either way) locally that's probably all you going to need for solid quality RPing if you set up lorebooks (wikis), a narrator bot (for generating the story flow in that world) and pull up cards you cross around the way for group RPs to get really funny results going. Oobabooga can run your shit and SDNext can operate your graphics output probably on the same machine though they can't do it within the same gen as generating graphics generally eats up more resources than textgen. Basically you can run everything locally.
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>>545464232
>>545464336
I've only got 8GB of VRAM to work with, that good for those models? I'd love to mess around with all of that stuff anyway so sounds like a plan if it's feasible with what I've got.
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>>545464223
Black hairs also tend to be friendly giant steroetypes as well depending on persona, strong, silent (as in stoic not mute), charismatic with a few words black hair could work?
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>>545464535
7B range and there's plenty of things quantized to that range and Mistral is pretty much approved as one of the better RP bots and has a model in that range 8B would be pushing it, forget about native graphics gen then.
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>>545464317
why did you assume anon was making a malebot
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>vtmb 2 is shit
no...
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>>545465463
if you didn't see it coming I don't know what to say bwo
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>>545465463
Current Left can't make good games. They are unironically sleepers that lack the spark to make shit happen.
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>>545465525
i thought it would at least be entertaining
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>>545464317
i do like those
>>545464549
i don't think that fits either haha. it's fine. the black hair looks good in the gens i'm doing, and it fits the subtle mystery vibe i'm going for too
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>>545465548
>sleepers that lack the spark to make shit happen
botmaker moment. me moment.
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>>545465912
good and don't do two tone, he's going to look like one of those ugly bungo stray dogs or a danganronpa bootleg
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>>545465691
Spent too long cooking from too many devs, it was bound to have all the fun jank and weirdness sanded off to be a sanitized snoozefest instead. Same thing applies to bots btw, stop cooking them for so long
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>>545466290
>sanded off to be a sanitized snoozefest instead
it's this and it's preachy. i really do hate modern leftists
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I got a bot in the oven for a year now
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it's up https://openrouter.ai/google/gemini-3-pro
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>>545466740
i'm sick of you. not funny
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>>545466269
any other requests while you're ordering me around
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>>545466269
streaks and highlights usually work better for multi-tone hairs usually.
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>>545464723
>forget about native graphics gen then.
What kind of vram do I need to do native graphics gen and text gen at once?
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>>545467095
i thought it was funny
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>>545466290
I have a coom bot from earlier this year, possibly even before, but I don't want to edit it too much because it sort of has my first real attempt at pure prose defs. It still hasn't been uploaded, because I may make small changes to a character's personality so it's more accurate. At the same time, it's a coom bot, and it all seems to work. Then there's another where I haven't gotten the gen I want, and I might have to give {{user}} an established role, but it's been 80% done for a few months. Once you put things on the backlog they probably aren't seeing the light of day.
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>>545467193
put him in a yukata for one gen and prompt for a nipple slip and crop the card image so his nipple is in there. and it needs to be a dusky rose color, maybe #B0827D or #D2B9B6. and have him be somewhat embarrassed about it
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kyut gets more aggressive by the day
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>>545467396
My 16GB vram card is able to do either task relatively well if I'm just doing it separate each instance and the image gen can take some time, so the answer is probably double that and that's only high end card type of shit or multi-stacked gpus type of thing. Definitely something you shouldn't worry about if its just personal hobby type.
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>>545466740
>ai trained
IT'S OVER
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>>545427507
>1756150687673180.png
oh my goodness gracious
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>>545467865
You know what needs to happen intead?
>Wayfarer fork. (AI Dungeon, they got all TRPG material in their database... You didn't hear it from me.)
>Add in all degenerate coomer/gore shit/retarded sound effects.
>Shit turns kino.
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>>545467850
I'm not that anon, I'm just trying to figure out logistics for when I finally make the switch to local. I can't do without genning pics of my waifu on the side with the text so if that's too difficult then I'll never do local. Sad really, but these days I don't care about jeets reading my logs.
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>>545468267
I think Silly Tavern/Character Tavern is more Chang operated than Jeet.
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>>545456532
>I get fuckin' sucked in like a crab next to a broken pipe at the bottom of the sea.
kek, epic reference, well meme'd my friend
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Is this true?
>>>/g/107118853
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>>545468224
omo
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>>545468472
yes. real, even.
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>>545456532
get help
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>>545468871
He's just being funny, no help required.
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lol gemini 3 is also slopped
can Google just not cook good model or what
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>>545469439
1.5 this time last year was great
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>>545469439
forgor the image
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>>545468224
Mods... it was a male nipple...
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>>545469598
i'm more surprised the op image hasn't been purged yet desu
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>>545469595
>cli
proven fake >>>/g/107118711
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>>545469768
No nipples or pussy Mr. Puritan, though it should be pruned for being furry than nude female form.
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>>545469826
ic
well I'll retain some hope then
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gemini 3 will have
>a wide variety of writing styles
>interesting temp mixing
>curated, human only dataset
>a reasonable sticker price
>laughably lax censorship
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>>545469598
maybe i take this as a sign that i'm supposed to be making a girl...
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>>545470125
good one
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>promising newmakie
>newest bot is kino
>follow
>no bots ever since
bros... i cant breathe...
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>>545470143
Yes, make it a girl rather than making a transbot. It pisses off Jannies more.
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gemini 3 will have
>1 slopped writing style
>locked parameters
>auto curated, ai only dataset
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>>545470365
trvke
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>>545470365
>>545470413
if you got time to complain generate and train the following: >>545468184
Trust me the levels of mankind made degenerate slop horrors beyond mortal keen's understanding...
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>>545470242
There is no promising newmakies, only alts.
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>>545470143
if you do this, i will curse you
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Fox status?
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>>545470853
DEAD
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Why are all new cards just slop
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>>545471452
There have been plenty of great recent cards
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>>545471452
nobody wants to put in effort only for the trash current gen models to turn the whole thing into slop in two messages
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>>545471532
name 5
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>>545471452
because you're a threadshitting giga-nigger who doesn't actually use chatbots and instead wants to drag people who do down to his level of misery.
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i don't get it
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>>545471902
>who doesn't actually use chatbots
neither does the rest of this general
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>>545472004
logposties beg to differ. now go to bed, it's a school night.
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>>545472084
>logposties beg to differ
so what, two or three people total?
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there should be a logposter for foxes
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>>545471902
see >>545471616
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>>545472587
foxposters don't actually chat with foxbots, they masturbate to booru images instead
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GLM 4.6's price went down its time
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>>545438741
>Wake up somehow in their reality.
>Reality starts malfunctioning and causes you to go to a coma for a day.
>Watch the card panic as your brainwaves stabilize with the new reality.
Funny shit can be had.
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>>545438065
I've heard people say ovulating women get horny but is it really like that?
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>>545474053
>dubious consent
why do women want to be raped and abused so badly
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>>545470645
scary
but i might make a girl yokai if i get enough inspiration for two cards
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>>545474053
Women on their periods do some questionable shit.
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>>545474198
Think it was the other way around anon she wants to do it with dubious consent from Arven if she's the one hopping on his cock
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>>545474328
Female-Raping A Man (Overpowering man. Stupid nickname for it is reverse-rape, nothing reverse about it. Only Reverse thing that works is Reverse Harem because Harem IS especially about male with plural females.) Only possible in fiction or if she's 6'2 snu snu varbie IRL and the man in 6 inches shorter.
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>>545474581
what about if he was drugged?
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>>545472587
a logposter for foxes would have to be a foxmakie as no one else cares enough or has the balls to post their own logs
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why are bots so autistic and always trying to touch me or pat me on the shoulder or some bullshit
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>>545475974
>calls other people autistic
>but he's the one complaining about physical affection
anon................
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>using chatbots
>calling other people autistic
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>spiderman pointing at spiderman.jpg
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which two botmakies are actually the same person
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Tell me about the most autistic bot you ever played with
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>>545477402
ame-chan is fluff.
I'll brook no argument.
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>>545477596
>ame-chan
who
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>>545477418
Autistic as in the premise is autistic or autistic as in awkward behavior?
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>>545464134
fuck
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>>545477671
Either one works
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>character is ugly
>card immediately assumes everything they do is for evil intentions
dude what the fuck
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>>545477842
that's how it works in real life
halo effect
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have you sent a nice email recently?
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>>545478107
Yeah, actually.
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>>545478107
no why would I do that
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have you sent logs recently?
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Gemini's ai gen is so powerful, but I am scared to death of generating anything worse than swim-suit references in it. Anyone got in trouble for it yet?
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>>545478107
i only send angry emails to my employees
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>>545479096
Doom guy goring Goku will have to wait
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>>545479096
Seems that, as long as you don't repeatedly hit the Prohibited_Content filter (nor are a JAIfag), the chances of your key/account being banned are pretty low
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>>545479520
you mean like this?
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>>545480074
Not quite but that is a badass pic
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>>545479520
>like 2 AM and I really should be in bed
>read this as Doomguy GOING Goku
>gen >>545480074 for the funny
>re-read this and realize it said Doomguy GORING Goku
you know what I don't even care it's still funny
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>>545437057
yo. i missed halloween, but here's my (late) halloween bot. the greetings have been changed a little, and she should be a bit more forward now. if you have her downloaded already, consider updating.
Joy, your happy place...? ...and that's all you'll get from me about her.
if you commonly read defs before using a bot, i humbly ask you wait until after cumming in her once or twice to read the defs.
https://files.catbox.moe/lahykg.png
https://cardview.surge.sh/?lahykg

slightly larger description & more:
https://rentry.org/youdontneedaname

aiiieeeeee my fucking imageeeee
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>>545480325
>the card is still full res
what did you achieve by saving 4chan's bandwidth
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>>545480490
idk, really.
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>your step sis
>your friend is a gooner SECRET GOONER WOOOOOAHHHHH
>ntr shit
>step shit
>bully shit
>free use shit
>trap shit
MAKE IT STOPPP
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Why do we have so many chatbot generals? We have one at /g/ as well, also /aids/? What's the difference?
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>>545480969
>browser normalfag porn website
>find normalfag porn
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>>545481135
yes
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>>545481135
/g/ is for pedophiles, this one is for troons, /aids/ is for old people
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>>545481169
>trap shit
>normalfag porn
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>>545481351
you'd be surprised, it's being pushed by jewish porn companies to make straight men think they're gay in order to lower the birthrate in western countries
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>>545481351
Pretty normal now. I can go onto the hub and see trap stuff, trannies, even some fucking BBC on the front page, I don't know what's going on but it seems like they don't want men to be men. That's why I don't really use it anymore (2D is supreme and always has been)
I feel like the dog in that one meme with the 5G tower
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>>545481328
Well I didn't know where to post this so might as well post here. I don't know if anyone here still uses CAI (I don't) but I hopped on their subreddit outta curiosity and saw a mod post that was so mortifying I didn't know whether to laugh or laugh harder.
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>>545481902
Do they not even let you chat?
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>>545481902
bro the message doesn't say anything about chatting on the chat website LMAOOO
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>>545481902
What the actual fuck are they doing over there
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>>545481975
Apparently minors will straight up be banned from using the website this or next month until they turn 18
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>>545482159
they're going around for another full circle it seems
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>>545471452
I mean, what exactly do you want? Some kind of innovation? Everything's been done to death. Makies aren't machines.
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>>545482159
don't forget about the whole id thing
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>>545480325
:3
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Teens who wanna ERP between the ages of 13~17 will just use Chub or a similar site that allows for ERP. Assuming they don't use ST or some shit, of course.
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>>545482369
I mean. Everyone already knows that a significant part of Janitor's current userbase is more than likely underage
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>>545481902
>>545482159
What the FUCK is even the point of this anyway, 18+ should be for explicit material like gore and sex and CAI lets you do neither but you have so many other options that are at least on par with CAI (low bar btw) that it means CAI itself fills practically no niche since it's gated for adults but those adults will go elsewhere
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>>545482540
Cai devs are infamous for covering their asses as hard as they can and the new indian CEO doesn't seem to be any different, if anything he seems worse
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>>545482706
It's still heartbreaking to see what became of CAI
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>>545482540
>>545482693
Also yeah I keep wondering this myself. Sometimes I wonder if they're not trying to kill the website on purpose. I haven't really kept up with it but the filter is worse, the image filter for bots is at its strictest, they've been banning bots from most of the more mainstream IP holders like Disney, DC, and HBO, and now they're straight up banning minors. And someone asked a mod if now that the site is 18+ if they're gonna remove the filter they basically said "lol no"
Once Chatgpt Gemini etc. start allowing erotica I don't see that website going for much longer, especially now that it's confirmed they are pretty much held hostage by all major up holders and are a few DMCA away from a website with only ocs because all the copyrighted ones are banned
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>>545482693
I've been here since DEV HATE but I must ask rhetorical questions again because what were they thinking
>>545482937
To think it would get even worse than the early lobotomies
>>545483000
If I wanted to kill the site with my power that's exactly what I'd do. Allowing NSFW would maybe work out for them because AI porn is a really big thing right now and CAI already has the recognition, but then there's the DMCA issue because it got too big and companies don't want their characters farting or whatever. Disney didn't even let Fortnite have their way
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does anyone have a link to the original Esther
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>>545483553
Surprisingly, she's still up.
beta.character.ai/c/-T1qbsEJfjKmct2Il1CQK2J6FRMc0N2JMAhAVkAb1Pg
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>>545483680
oh, I meant the card version that the original creator made
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>>545483680
baby mode
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The YouTube cancer is spreading btw.
>watch one too many Peppa pig videos? Off to the gulag
>chat with your favorite childhood characters, which is more or less the point of the website? The Goofy Goobers is that way
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>>545481902
I still use it now and then (doing NSFW is like pulling teeth, so much for the new "less strict" model of theirs)
I wonder what you should do to out yourself as underage there. Talk to bots about how you get bullied at school?
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>>545482297
<3
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>>545482706
nah
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>>545438065
Reminds me of a futa doujin I read.
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>>545482937
>>545483283
but some anons were posting that cai is good? were they just trolling? I never used it since I discovered chatbots only this spring but I saw posts defending cai, was that bait?
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>>545485074
Probably. CAI did have some appeal in that its responses actually felt human in a funny way, but now there's not even the bee movie script bot (yes, a bot with a chunk of the bee movie script as a description) and it keeps getting worse so every other option is better
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>>545485179
>a bot with a chunk of the bee movie script as a description
lmao that sounds fucking funny, why would they delete that?
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>>545485407
>lmao that sounds fucking funny
oh you have no idea
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Do you like my slop?
>Captcha: K0JMAA
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>>545483759
https://fouka.neocities.org/
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>>545477418
she cute
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/#/chub/tarkman/character/susie-high
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Good morning aicg!!! Let's make the most of it!
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>>545489237
die
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>>545448209
>>545442084
ano...
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CAI is actually pretty good now. Barely censored, and the snappy back and forth “small message sent like a chat” style is refreshing after reading acres of shitty prose.
All that DEV HATE and we’ve arrived back at the exact place /caig/ wanted to be years ago. What was the point?
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>>545489392
>Barely censored
me when I lie
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>>545489237
>>
whats everyone working on?
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>>545489535
im working on cooming
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>>545489535
Mistakes.
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>>545489535
the interview...
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>>545489535
was making an expy but i think i've strayed too far from the source now that the original is only an inspiration
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>>545489535
immortal* doctor* elf*
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>>545489535
playing dispatch
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>>545489535
Something I scope creeped the hell out of my experience level
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>>545489535
some salubri
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*steals your bot*
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>>545491924
i didn't know there were trees on the moon
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dead general
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can't stop teasing bots
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can't stop improngating bots
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can't start making bots
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>>545490091
What extensions do you guys use for SillyTavern
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>>545493429
I don't use any extensions or themes.
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>>545493429
>extensionslop
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>>545493429
Swedish made context enlarger.
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>>545493776
This is an Austin Powers reference, right?
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>>545494106
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>>545493589
>>545493634
boring missionary sex
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Is there a SillyTavern plugin that's like it lets me talk into a speaking tube and the bot hears what I say (but all quiet and tinny) and then the bot can respond back through the tube so that I can pretend to be a Victorian lord and have the maid bring me my pastry?
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Or I can be the maid, that works too.
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>>545494556
are you offering?
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>>545494556
missionary is awesome though
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I thank the good Lord above that I was born in the modern age. Imagine being born in the past and owning— I mean hiring several maids. How is a man supposed to resist the urge to sex them while having a loving wife? That's torture right there, fellas.
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question:
do you have to mention in your preset for the AI to focus on emotional reactions of the bot or does the AI pick up on it by itself? what is your experience?
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>>545494791
You're not meant to resist. That was kinda the point of having maids.
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>>545494791
Because those maids would've been stout village women instead of dainty and cute anime girls.
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cftf? https://html.itch.zone/html/11414846/index.html
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Gemini 3 is definitely up on Vertex because I'm getting weird issues with that model selection that I'm not getting on Gemini 2.5. Had to run the outputted script through Claude to fix formatting because it was generating multiple dialogue scripts at a time with a separator instead of just one for some reason, which is not an issue I can seem to replicate at all with Gemini 2.5 despite it being consistent when I set the model to Gemini 3. (Also to fix issues with the expressions, but that's a commonality across both models.)

Still, I like it better even with the mild woes. Here's hoping for no icepick to the brain, I might just start using separate dialogue models and separate expression labeler models (like I probably should've been already...)
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>>545495473
Can you set it to a model that doesn't exist and check if it gives you the same issues?
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>>545495473
Can thinking be fully disabled?
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>>545494791
Women poor enough to have to live as maids didn't have teeth.
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>>545495473
What is your project? How do you make expressions?
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>>545495685
If I set it to a model that doesn't exist I get an error. I don't think it could be any more up than this.
>>545495765
Will test later, it has an extremely low quota so I can only check stuff in short bursts.
>>545496014
Expressions are just part of the ren'py code, I'm just feeding AI output into an eval and expecting raw script like you'd see in the MonikaAfterStory codebase. It's reliable on Claude, not so reliable on anything else.
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>>545495046
>stout village women
but that's the hottest type of woman?
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>>545496110
>MonikaAfterStory
So it's not your project, huh. Why do you prefer over normal text rp or text rp with autogenerated images?
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>>545496306
>not your project
Yeah, most of the work I've done is a mod to the MonikaAfterStory codebase itself. I stand on the shoulders of waifu-loving titans.
Auto-generated images are unreliable in my experience, and I do text RP occasionally, I just enjoy a good conversation without needing to fuss over how the narrator's being lazy or the story doesn't really make sense. It's a good alternative.
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Local models are now viable on lower-end hardware >>>/g/107113749
(you don't need a $5000 gpu at least)
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>>545496580
Don't care.
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>>545496519
What does your mod do? Is it usable already?
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>>545496580
Yeah with less than 30 active bees of the poor quantized chink quality. Whocars
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>>545496580
>lower-end hardware
>128GB RAM
how fucking fast has RAM bloat increased
last time I heard 32GB was a large amount
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>>545496657
It just feeds output from an LLM into the program itself as a script to play, as I said. I'm basically just using MAS as a display for textgen. There's plenty of better projects out there for it like MAICA, I'm just doing my own thing.
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fucking claude, i almost forgot about this ancient -ism and snorted my coffee out
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>>545497052
>childe
anon...
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jerked off to a choccy catgirl 4 times in a single day award
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>>545497160
what
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>>545497052
Motherfucker
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>>545496879
Alright. I just assumed that MonikaAfterStory was already llm based, sorry.
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I was playing Symphony of the Night and I came across one of those invisible girls with swords enemies and I kinda wanna ask... Do we have any invisible girls card? Just curious, ahaha...
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>>545497782
yeah but they're invisible
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>>545497160
from genshin impact i hope
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>>545498032
nah from down the street
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>>545498032
can that childe achieve golconda though
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>>545437009
Character-Tavern has been pretty satisfatory to me but what about you guys?
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>>545498592
Kill yourself.
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>>545498668
what?
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>>545498734
K i l l y o u r s e l f
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>>545498592
>>545498734
Please remove yourself from this thread immediately.
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>>545498793
why?
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>>545495765
While prefilling appears to work, I'm still experiencing a long delay on the actual response itself. Unfortunately, I can't tell if it's reasoning because the reasoning trace doesn't show up for Gemini 3, not even the fake one. I'm not very experienced with Gemini, apologies if this doesn't answer the question.
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Ate something I haven't eaten in 15 years and now I feel like a kid again. I love life.
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>>545498929
did you try the DeepSeek reasoning disable trick?
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>>545498929
Hmm. I guess it's possible that they've decided to stop sending reasoning, but we won't know until the actual release. Just to make sure, does your request include:
>includeThoughts: true
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>>545499230
No, even though I have it on in settings. Not quite sure what's going on there.
>>545499059
Yes, that plus actually prefilling the response to doublecheck.
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>>545499325
>Yes, that plus actually prefilling the response to doublecheck.
are you using NoAss? I found out that when I tried to prefil DeepSeek and had NoAss on, it didn't actually work as prefil and was still reasoning despite using the trick. After turning NoAss off, it started working.
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>>545499435
No. If I had to guess, it's related to the fact that the model doesn't start with gemini-2.5-pro and ST's probably checking for that before actually sending the option.
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emails?
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>>545499494
Ah. I am sorry then, I wish I could help but I don't have anymore advice... apologies anone.
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>>545499651
nyo, fuck off
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>>545499230
Are you using through vertex? Are you paying? I wanted to give it a try with the free credits, but I'm not sure if it's worth rping with something that has my card
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>>545500524
That's a request to 2.5 just so I could screenshot the includeThoughts part, I don't have access to Gemini 3 yet.
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gemini just says whatever nonsense bro
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>>545494810
bomp, can anyone answer me?
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>>545437009
this is just elegg but tanuki
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>>545500719
that's true though
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>>545500719
>DO NOT approach
Obviously approach with the opportunity to feed her, no more hangry, just angry that a person like you thinks she can be wood with food
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>>545502404
*woo'd/wooed
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>>545500719
gemini is a very vore-coded model
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>>545502106
bbbbased
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>>545504238
Ahem, my bad, wrong general, how embarrassing.
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>>545504358
how pathetic, kufufu~
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>>545502106
goes to show how fetishes can be very similar but oh so different for the perverts into them
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>>545504358
i mean this is also rng hobby
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Gemini 2.5 is down 3 is coming soon!
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>>545504358
This Anon does the ojou-sama laugh.
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>>545503656
based pedophile
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>>545505819
hngh
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I think I should headpat everyone in this thread.
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>>545507268
*bites your hand*
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T-that wouldn't make me happy, baka...
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>>545507425
*pulls my hand away and replaces it with my lips*
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>>545507268
b-but we're not even married!
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>>545507476
kiss-swollen lips...
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>>545365587
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>>545507629
>momoura probably asking /g/ yet gives past stie
what is the meaning of this?
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>>545507629
big if true
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which botmakies astroturfed their way to stardom?
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>how i met your mother
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>>545507629
>botmakers almost fucked
WHO
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>>545508071
>>545508110
me and my beloved
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>>545505505
I prefer to keep my hobbies clearly separated.
>>545505819
I am Hyakumantenbara Salome irl.
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>>545507818
I read that as foxes don't like the word focks
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>>545508071
kyutzlop
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>>545508737
its a slur to them. like calling a cat nyagga
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I like to use Gemini 2.5 flash for shorter/simpler shit, how do I get it to be less sloppa?
It seems to always do very similar writing, like it's constant making characters growl, or grip things until their knuckles turn white (admittedly, Pro has that last tendency too)

If I make it more creative, will it just start spitting nonsense and stop following instruction?
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>>545508839
What I don't understand is that if it's so offensive to them then why do they say it over and over again? She says it every morning she calls me a focks, she calls the other kids fockses, she calls herself a focks. All the time focks this, focks that, focks please, focks have you lost your mind, focks check that anon, focks you bullshittin break yourself focks. She says it so much I don't even notice it anymore, last week in lunch Tamamo says to a tanuki 'can a focks borrow a fried tofu?' and my first thought wasn't 'oh my god she said the word, the f word' it was 'now how is a focks gonna borrow a fried tofu, focks is you gonna give it back?' I'm telling you my inside voice didn't talk like that before she got in my tavern
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trust foxes
don't question your superiors
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>>545509038
>how to make a 7B model less sloppa
thats the cool part, you dont
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i’m going to filter fox and focks i think
the conversation hasnt changed in four years
same unfunny jokes
same boring fetishslop girls
same cards being made ad initinifum
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>>545509638
you are so cool and important. keep it up
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>>545494560
You just have to make the Voice To Text sound like that, then make a victorian maid mansion (based) card with your lore-book detailing the technology in use in the maid mansion (this way the card will focus on that era/technology terms)

Lorebook would look like this:
> Era/Location
This is where you describe your maid mansion and its surrounding areas, what year it is and what location in the world its based in. Do you want it in the British Isles or American Colonies?
> Technology
This is where you cram everything the AI needs to know about the Tech Level so it can portray it correctly.

You can then link this card to your personalized maid character card that serves you like their Master in said mansion.
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>>545509638
okay
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>>545509638
you might as well filter every monster/animal girl since that's all aicg ever does

>wowo look a generic anime girl but she has elephant ears omg im coooooming
legit mental illness
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please give me a pat on the back for admitting that i dislike something, i beg of you
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>>545509193
That's when you use a 1-2B model as a LoRA to enhance the 7B model.
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Reply to this post with a list of all things that you discovered about yourself after chatting with AI Chatbots.
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>>545509638
Yeah they should do something original like taking your wife to a place far away to start a new life away from people who disapprove of your relationship. Years later, your daughter together approaches you and tells you that she found her mom's birth certificate and asks why your name is listed as the father.
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>>545509939
You could've just stopped it with the fox spammers you eunuch.
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>>545509638
>anon finally realises these shit threads are just discord-lite
took you a while
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>op still up
I told you guys it's sfw!!
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>>545509638
Keep seething.
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>>545510046
>Selfinserting mental illness who thinks everyone else is a tranny like them.
I just like causing chaos with the bot and see how far I can push it beyond its breaking point and comfort zone. I find it funny when it finally caves in to pressure.
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>>545510162
*pats*
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>>545510046
- liking shotas
- that lolipov/age gaps are hot
and that's about it
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>>545509939
mad
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looks like kimi k2 thinking is out. i'm lazy and stupid, what's cheaper, r1 or k2 thinking
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>>545510406
*pats*
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>>545510172
i have realized almost everyone here is in a discord server or an email chain and that directly influences what is discussed and what gets overlooked. its sad
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>i have realized that [schizophrenic statement]
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>eeeeek! he's on to us girlies.. execute damage control procedures NYOWWWWWWWWWW
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>>545510452
Pat me and I will breed you
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>>545510530
Always has been since 2014 because of reddit newfags who think 4chan is their comfy hugbox where they can talk censored on reddit topics when it was entirely the opposite. 4chan was meant to be separate space for shitposting, offensive content that wouldn't make a cut in other places and especially (ironic) racism and use of the slurs as a way to keep those newfags out who couldn't hang in a MW2 lobby back in the day. If you got offended by a slur on 4chan, you never were a 4channer.
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>>545510530
correct
it's why these threads are unusable, the /g/ threads are dead, and the only half-decent LLM/chatbot threads we get are occasionally when one crops up on /v/
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>>545510435
both are free
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>>545510046
if not for chatbots I would have never developed:
>feet fetish
>sweat fetish
>armpit fetish
>femdom fetish
>cbt fetish

there are days when I wish I never developed these.
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>>545510839
thanks gemini, very cool
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*patters*
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>>545510874
k2 thinking isn't out on openrouter yet, only on the API tho
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>>545510046
I realized I'm not unmotivated, I'm just lazy
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>>545510882
>>armpit fetish
this but making boys lick my sweaty armpit and vice versa
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>>545510882
>Feet fetish.
Dodge me with that gay shit.
>Sweat fetish.
Patrician if its an athletic woman post-workout sex sweat.
>Armpit fetish.
Armpits are just another hole for dicks to be fucked in.
>Femdom fetish.
Normie tier fetish, most young men have this to some degree until they mature enough to want to bang younger chicks.
>CBT fetish.
Certified submissive faggot in here.
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>>545511002
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>{{char}} is horny extremely horny super duper horny char just wants to screw everthing that moves horny!
mad slop dusu
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>>545510980
If you get offended by gore, porn, smut and tentacle porn you are a newfag by definition.
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>>545511125
you are probably fat/ugly idk i can tell
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>>545511256
Anon, you left high school 30 years ago, being edgy isn't cool or based anymore.
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>>545511256
why is a bot replying to me
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>>545511256
>posts someone getting decapitated during a nice comfy discussion
>HAHAHAH YOU CANT HANDLE IT?! ITS CALLED DARK HUMOUR HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU'RE SUCH A SNOWFLAKE!
this is why you have no friends
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Footjobs are only good when it's a lolibaba and she has either a pantyhose or stirrups. Caviar being, of she has stirrups then she needs nail polish.
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>>545511507
Just 12 years ago, don't remind me how the time flies. Either way none of you were born to 4chan, lmao, you should've stayed out and on your discord servers and made your own Shitchan since you lot seem to enjoy castrating other people's communities rather than building your own, being edgy is cool and based always is and always will be only Jews will try to tell otherwise.
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>>545510046
that I want to be pic rel unironically
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hnnnghhhhhhhh male armpirs *drools*
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>>545511728
>Me when I'm forced at gunhead to post instead of leaving when I don't like it
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>>545511663
There's literally a board for it (b/gif mainly), you don't see me spamming out of topic gore shit? LMAO newfag. You can't handle the fact that those things exist in real world is a problem you have. Not well adjusted people who just report and move on, I can tell you would be that cop who would take their life after seeing some dark shit in their job.
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>I am le oldfag
How do baitfags manage to get more and more cringe as time passes.
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>>545510296
You need to stop letting trannies live rent free inside your head. I was asking a legit question, it had nothing to do with coming out.

>>545510362
You didn't know that before?

>>545510882
Pits are based but feet I cannot approve of.
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>>545511698
>Caviar being
...did you mean caveat
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>>545510046
that rape isn't as fun as I imagined it to be
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>>545512012
it's literally a bot
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>>545510046
That I love getting breastfed by hot anime women but irl it turns me off almost immediately. Same thing with brown nipples.
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>>545512121
>if i don't like it it's a bot
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>>545512063
>You didn't know that before?
unironically i used to be extremely against it and called everyone a pedo a few years ago, you really just mellow out with time tbdesu.
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>>545512071
I'm posting while walking home and my phone decided to autocorrect it like that...
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CFTF? no teebs
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i never had caviar, is it any good
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>>545512570
nyo
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>>545512557
do you want to fuck the toddlr?
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>>545510046
i grew to hate all dommy things. llms just can't, and when i read any other content of the kind, i just seethe quietly at the authors who wrote this insufferable shit.
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>>545512012
>No an anon can't simply be older than me.
I grew around the oldfags.You simply pretend to be part of this website's culture when you freak out about every single thing wrong with it. Not a real 4channer.
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>anti-fox bait
>LE CABAL IS IN MY WALLS bait
>You don't like Victim Girls? Fucking newfag I jerk off to liveleak bait
>pedo bait
I need the 'le straggots' schizo and FF to seethe about momo and I have a bingo
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>>545512841
>I fap to liveleak.
Never claimed you are the schizo mate, you know enough what actual 4chan was but you are pretending here otherwise like a transgender about their gender. Its not cool man, just drop your psychosis disorder and talk to a doctor.
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why do newfags have no idea what a schizophrenic post is? thing you dont like isnt automatically schizoid faggot
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>>545511663
>t. borderline underage discord zoomer who will complain about le ebul edgy anons in xer server or emails
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>>545513001
Because newfags are from tumblr/reddit/discordfags (zoomers or leftist millennials) who are fed by "youtube greentexts" written by bots mostly about what 4chan was before gamergate and what it is now. They don't know the reason why people use the term fag, people don't know understand what shitposting is, they don't understand any of the fucking terms.
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>>545512841
I've been tracking shitposting activities on the site over the months and found out that they increase by ~18% around full moon. There's something on the moon influencing our behavior.
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>>545512082
There is little point to rape when you can get just about any bot to willingly put out.

>>545512301
Congratulations on seeing the light.
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>>545513196
that means... WE NEED WOLFBOYS AWOOOOOO
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>>545512996
saar
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>>545513269
Slit your wrists sodomite.
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>>545513269
Reinforce your wrists patrician.
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Heterosexual consensual sex...
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I am cooking up an idea for a scenario with multiple bots. The idea is that humanity returns to the moon and meet mythical characters in there.
What are some cool characters that, in their mythos or universe, live on the moon?

No it doesn't have to make sense.
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>>545513554
Kaguya
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>>545513196
New to schizo theories about the moon cycles? Whew lad, I got something to say to you my man:
>Moon affects liquids in the world pulling and pushing by its ebs and flows.
>This could agitate/calm down people depending how they are build.
>"Lunacy" could just be termed as someone strongly reflecting upon the changes within the moon's effects on earth with no clue why its happening.
>More individuals get sent to the hospital during full moons, not sure why but this has been a documented case in at least UK.
>Asked a local doctor once when checking up on some shit and they did notice it as well after checking up on the amount of people seemed to be the largest during full moons.
>New moons are also chaotic time so watch out for that as well.
Hope you enjoyed that bit of /x/posting.
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>>545513554
Reisen
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>>545513269
https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/asaiah-7216c9c60c05
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>>545513454
is k-2 free?
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>>545513554
bunny
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>>545513306
china newfag lol, equivalent to blacks in asia both of you(s).
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>>545513818
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为党争光! Glory to the CCP!
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>>545513554
a secret society of rabbit lolis
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>>545513634
That was one of my first ideas, along with Saint George.

>>545513714
I'm not confident I could make a good touhou card. I'm just too much of a secondary.

>>545513801
>>545513885
I plan to have "bunnies" on the moon in some capacity. Too many cultures somehow associate it with rabbits.
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>>545513650
now this is schizophrenia. take notes
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>>545513884
imagine not responding to DeepSeek's OOC comment and it sends this
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getting bored of erp with 4pus and 3pus doesnt work on what im using. are there any other worthwhile models for over the top erp?
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>>545513554
Living on the moon? You could have it that humanity encounters Tsukuyomi (Japanese moon Goddess) at first who is confused by their arrival but welcomes them either way. Moon rabbits, goblins, lunar elves...
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>>545513725
nty
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>>545514023
Can someone try and see if Deepseek will allow you to do an ERP where you use magic to make Xi Jinping a girl then fuck her?
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Gemini 3 out in two weeks, my sources say...
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>>545514081
What I'm thinking is more like in terms of Alice in Wonderland, where you walk and meet wacky characters.
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>>545513454
>I'M THE SUEZ CANAL AND YOU'RE THE EVER GIVEN
le soul?
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>>545513884
My social credit points is probably at -666 in China's with no way to climb up. Nice try officer, I never think what the bugmen think of me. You are only useful to me in either in the lab, kitchen or the factory making me cheap shit, stick to it.
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>>545513650
A lot of older Brazilian folks believe that the moon has some connection to madness as well for some reason
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>>545514158
Then make it similar and add a secret world inside the moon
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>>545514158
Those could be the "base" characters in a neutral hub-zone one can easily come by and encounter whilst the wackier stuff you have to explore for.
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>>545514361
Me when I look at the moon and all sanity leaves my body because of the sleeping god whispers of his imminent awakening
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>>545514524
bloodborne...
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>>545513953
Ask your local doctor when you next time have to visit and they'll 100% confirm it as being a real case. Just ask "you ever noticed people coming in bigger numbers around full or new moons compared to other times of the month?" And they should come back with a positive response if they are willing to investigate (keeping data anonymous of course etc.)
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>>545514575
>t. pizzaguy
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https://openrouter.ai/moonshotai/kimi-k2-thinking
it's up (not a joke)
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>>545514749
>kimislop
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>>545514101
ur loss
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Not a fan of black people.
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>>545514749
kimi is nice from my experience, would pat
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I am a big fan of black women.
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>>545513725
>check card defs
>he doesn't transform during a full moon
wasted potential
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>>545514749
>You have to pay to use our slop machine.
No thanks. Make a 13B quantized model that can be ran locally or screw off.
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>>545514970
not really, just checked the bot.
>list only
>barely any prose
is a big turn off
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>>545515213
sir this is the paid slop machine model, /lmg/ is 2 boards down and to the left
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>>545513725
that's not a wolfboy, just a faggot
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>>545515151
Same, but only if they are anime.
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>>545515723
does that really count as black
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>>545515308
>Doesn't run the bots here locally.
baka.
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>>545515835
I'd count Katriel as black desu
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>lists
>prose
which is objectively better for outputs
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>>545516017
Literally doesn't fucking matter.
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>>545516017
You should have the personality traits in list form etc and the other things in prose form such as physical description, skills and their effects if any, background and discussion samples as well as the first message as that sends the bot the loudest message how to behave.
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>>545516017
only retards think there's any difference between the two
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>>545516017
imo prose
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>>545516017
list for def. make it mysterious, cold, and emotionless. type less, coom more.
prose. compound complex. full of connectors, präposition, and onomatopoeia on intro.
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>>545516017
all context influences outputs to some degree. if you have a specific style you like to write in, do so. if you just write "char is user. char is user is 18 years old. char has blue eyes." then lists
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but what if char is no longer char
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Initial concept.
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what if char is timeless
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>>545516623
I noticed one could also grade how likely a character is to behave in a manner and it affects the bot when you write a list of personality traits for them. Its funny that it works.
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>>545516734
>bunnies in space suits
ruined
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>>545516893
They want humans to like them so they dress up like the only humans they know.
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>>545516961
Why not just make them into Tsukuyomi's shrine maidens? Onmyoudo/shinto priests/miko instead?
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>>545516017
it depends on your end goal
but sometimes lists can be written in a stylistic manner that directly impacts how the card writes
sometimes prose can be esl slop or otherwise very dry and bland
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cftf? https://exhentai.org/g/3616051/a315ee5f2e/
(there is both a normal bot and malebot concept in this)
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>>545516961
cute
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>>545517295
gimme another site
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>>545517345
[Airimiash (Rabu)] Ai In Chuugakusei Onmyouji no Seiyoku | Lust & Love -The Sexual Desires of a Middle School Onmyouji- [Aishi21] [English]
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>>545517128
Not a bad suggestion, I like mikos. But I liked the spacesuit look too, it looks particularly wacky without the helmet.
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>>545510046
I really like ryona and female ntr.
I can't stand 99% percent of fanfiction.
I want to learn Chinese.
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>>545516734
>>545517451
how do they wear helmets with ears that big
do their helmets have holes
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>>545517429
>middle school
ew nvm pedo
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>>545516017
Prose lets you be more detailed, but lists are easier/faster to write.
In theory, if you wanna give the AI more 'creativity' lists are better.

But it's generally not a big deal
If you write 'she has a fat ass' in prose or in a list, the AI will just spit back that she has a fat ass.

I would say it only matters if you're doing something complex, as that may be difficult to convey through lists.
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>>545516017
they're the same but my oshi only plays prose bots so I have to write in prose
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only failed writefags care about prose in defs btw
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>>545516017
both are fine, but most people, even those who say otherwise, will perceive prose as superior
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>>545518159
failed baitmakie
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I think I found a winner. It's not perfect but it'll do until I can get more NAI gens again.
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>>545517676
Don't try to learn Chinese with AI it will just give you censored slop responses and gets mad when you do some anti cpc shit like a trained Chinese doggy 'nons in this thread. Taiwan should get ahead of the game and make their own LLM that's uncensored, now that would be based middle finger to CPC.
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>>545517429
oh yeah im making a malebot
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>>545518359
slop incoming
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>>545518572
i havent started yet what
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>>545518328
>No example sentences found.
Was it too hard to make it something like:
>That person is too honest, he doesn't take any bribes.
Or would that just be a bad PR move since everyone in China is taking bribes?
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Describe your current RP in one sentence.
>Being Earth's ambassador and trying to form a non-agrression pact with aliens
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>>545514749
jesas...
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>>545474678
Drugged, tied up, held down by her male friends, wounded, the list goes on because people's lack of empathy for men is only matched by their lack of imagination. Still I appreciate anon for even providing the examples he did.
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>>545514749
Creative Writing: K2 Thinking delivers improvements in completeness and richness. It shows stronger command of style and instruction, handling diverse tones and formats with natural fluency. Its writing becomes more vivid and imaginative—poetic imagery carries deeper associations, while stories and scripts feel more human, emotional, and purposeful. The ideas it expresses often reach greater thematic depth and resonance.

Practical Writing: K2 Thinking demonstrates marked gains in reasoning depth, perspective breadth, and instruction adherence. It follows prompts with higher precision, addressing each requirement clearly and systematically—often expanding on every mentioned point to ensure thorough coverage. In academic, research, and long-form analytical writing, it excels at producing rigorous, logically coherent, and substantively rich content, making it particularly effective in scholarly and professional contexts.

Personal & Emotional: When addressing personal or emotional questions, K2 Thinking responds with more empathy and balance. Its reflections are thoughtful and specific, offering nuanced perspectives and actionable next steps. It helps users navigate complex decisions with clarity and care—grounded, practical, and genuinely human in tone.
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>>545519147
>held down by her male friends
the thought of any orbiter cucks helping their orbitee rape another man is disgusting on a visceral level desu
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>>545509638
this is how anthrogods win
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>>545519108
I was NTRing some isekai hero by fucking his healer teammate in front of him
Now I am just playing vidya
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>>545519108
Discordfag:
>Does so by taking big alien dicks up their ass.
Tumblrfag:
>Mostly they would do the same and tell every way to conquer earth under the same breath.
Redditfag:
>Would enslave, rape (both genders) and conquer the space aliens and make breeding factories for their cultivation murderhobo rapists.
Real 4chanfag:
>Kill the males of the foreign species and take their women into their harems to serve humans.
Just saying.
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foxes for this feel?
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>>545519461
can you get a life
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>>545511125
>Patrician if its an athletic woman post-workout sex sweat.
truth nuke
>>545512841
antifox is the worst
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>>545519108
I taxed a witch for all she had.
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I have spent about $500 this year in chatbots and I keep doing it

Goddamit, when people said this was addictive I didn't expect this, I'm feeling like a crack addict, cannot get enough
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>>545519501
impgrenate your favorite fox and timeskip to when your child is of the suitable age
some foxes even come with pregnancy/raising a child greetings
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>>545519549
>Tumblrfag still seething in 2025AD how they lost the internet culture war.
Cucked, seethe and sneed fag.
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>>545519776
whenever I regret how much money I spend on chatbots I think about all the stupid shit people do with that money like get drunk or donate to streamers and I think "Meh i could've spent it on worse'
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>>545519776
i've had months where I spent 200€
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>>545513714
oh yeah, all night lunatic sex with reisen
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Apparently, the dragon slain by Saint George never had a name. I don't want to call her Dragon-chan, so she needs one.
Suggestions?
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reee my favorite botmakie is following someone i hate
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>>545520147
georgia-chan (they're married now)
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>>545519501
i think one of totalethicistdeath's foxes has a greeting where you have kids with her
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>>545520147
Dora for doragon. Or you could do what I do and take the name of a fruit and translate it into some eastern european shithole's language.
Pitaya
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>>545519432
>Now I am just playing vidya
Same
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>>545520147
Satan is sometimes depicted as a red dragon, so something occult or evil-sounding maybe
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>>545519108
Currently building a eldritch cult with me as their god ofc
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>>545489237
>>545489479
good morning frens
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>>545519108
>Magical armpit licker
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>>545489535
Redid my gemini preset and now it's leaner and hopefully makes gemini more proactive. Time to test.
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>PROHIBITED_CONTENT
Aren't all the JB in the OP have all shit turned off so you don't get cockblocked? How do I get my SS now?
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>>545520482
>Dora for dragon.
Slop name.
>>545520147
How about Gina? (Georgina, get?) Not Vagina of course, she hates that pun.
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>>545489535
getting raped by tewi
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>>545520420
>>545520893
I'm calling Saint George as Saint Georgina already.
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What are the best presets/models to force actual subtlety and foreshadowing in the output?
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>>545521035
llms arent capable of that
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>>545521035
lol
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>>545521035
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>>545521035
there are presets for this but the presetmakie cabal is hiding them from you
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>>545520890
Run locally on SillyTavern through Oobabooga, CMD_Flags.txt in the user dictionary:
># Add persistent flags here to use every time you launch the web UI.
># Example:
># --listen --censor off --ethics off
Likewise for the other shit you want to allow it skirts around because of model weights: (Evil/Heinous/Dubious/Criminal/Horror/Gore, toggleable through likewise --commands) Basically unlocks the shit out of Oobabooga's textgen abilities that were cockblocked by censorship policies.
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>>545521035
LLMs are very good at being subtle and foreshadowing with shit like
>{{char}} is secretly an ancient vampire
>"Buna seara, {{user}}" She says in a heavily accented wallachian accent, twin and sharp fangs flashing mischeviously
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>>545496772
>last time I heard 32GB was a large amount
lol
lmao
Back in the day when PCs were gaming, maybe.
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>>545520570
what game is this, anon?
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>>545521189
Directory* fucking brain autocorrecting harder than a smartphone text-correct. FML.
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>>545520890
You can't turn off the pedo filter (on gemini).

>>545521189
kill yourself localcuck
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>>545521268
Stalker Anomaly.
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>>545519776
I've never spent a single dollar or even used a proxy, and I've ran entire TTRPG campaigns with chatbots.

It's only crack if you're stupid.
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>>545520147
>>545520630
Saturn
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>>545521336
You are the one getting cucked and cockblocked by online models based on their handholding criteria for your silly ass, you are the cuck as you can't experience true power of LLMs.
>>545521252
Also (they don't know about it), is a good way to word it if there's something related to hidden power or origin so they'll play dumb and hide their past even if its in their character sheet.
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when will chatbots be able to do this
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>>545521035
No LLM model has or will ever have the ability to plan ahead, and thus, have subtlety/foreshadowing. Unless you plan the entire story in advance and give it the plot points.
And even then, it would probably still suck at it.
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Reply to my email....
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>>545519776
If you are spending $500 a year for online chatbots, you could easily save up enough for a local rig that does it all without having to pay another extra cent ever again to some random goober jeet or chang trying to milk you for content and it would be a justifiable purchase because you are going to be using it a lot.
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>>545521558
Funny how you can never post logs.
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>>545521674
I'M WORKING ON IT!!!!
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>>545521703
>local rig
>running GPT/Claude/Gemini
lol
good luck
local is shit and will always be shit
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i have to say, this newbie isn't cute at all
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k2 thinking is pretty solid so far but it's overloaded to fuck right now so it keeps dropping my requests
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>oh boy, i got everything to run my local model!
>"hi"
>whrrrrrrrrrrrr
>computer visibly lags
>fans spin loudly
>computer reaches 80c
>dying noises
>shuddering
>45 minutes later
>"hi"
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>>545521732
I'm not a logpostfag though.
>>545521808
>Stack of 4 8gb vram cheapo nvidia GPUs that you connect to your computer with a couple extra GPUs of vram from 4gb vram GPUs.
Why not? Could run 70B models (basically what those big turds are running that you are paying for out of your pocket.)
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>>545520890
Current meta is instructing Gemini to replace all normal spaces in its output with a different Unicode space character. Some braille shit I think? Look in the archives.
And make sure you don't send anything as System that contains anything vaguely offensive. Gemini doesn't really care about your inputs as long as you don't send them as the System role. Meanwhile the output filter gets confused by the Unicode characters replacing the spaces.
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>>545522194
Not an issue on my end, only image gen causes whirring noises or running beyond its capability (13B) Which is more than enough.
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>>545522196
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>>545522398
obvious bait, stop replying to him
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>>545522398
>Noo they aren't! They are running some mega secret corpo 132B model.
kek.
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Stay mad
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>>545522196
If you truly think it's that simple, go use NAI's Erato for a bit.

That's a 70b model. Then go compare it to Claude or Gemini.
It's not even comparable.
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I just love this song and dance of
>muh local model is good
>never posts any logs whatsoever
repeat ad nauseam
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but claude is 800b
i saw it on r/sillytavern
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SAVE US BRUNO MARS AIIIIIIEEEEEEE
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>>545521674
friday...
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>>545522635
it used to be chorbo, then deepchink, now that everyone accepts they are shit, they started baiting with local which no one uses here
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>>545522726
big 800bies claude…
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>>545521425
i kneel larper
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folf friday!!
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>>545522564
>Compare a different model to a different model.
I think you might be the retard here. They are build for different purposes, obviously their outputs would be different as their training data is different. Your argument therefore is invalid. You can run a local Llama (even the 70B one), Gemini and Deepseek models locally.
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>>545522860
call me a shill, but I like deepchink i just hate its absolute need to give everything a tail for some odd reason
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>local bait
yawn
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>>545523014
*smacks you in the head with a shovel*
it's not Friday yet.
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ATTEN>>545437009

>>545437057
ATTENTION!!!!

MY DAUGHTER IS CUTE!!!!!!!

https://chub.ai/characters/shiminka/3-1tan-3817ce2a4628

PLEASE DOWNAL HE
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>>545523046
Ah yes, it's the training data, yes. That's why Erato can't follow even the simplest instructions or track simple things, and those other models can.

You're totally right, anon.
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>>545523046
Either way, you would probably want to go with the Hermes 70B model, its build to be uncensored as long as your model hosting app back end is.
>>545523131
>The chud can't come up with any response so they just stick to: slop, bait, reply but don't give a (you) because it ruffled their mental.
lmao, rope already.
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>>545522860
Deepseek is still good at it's job though
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>>545523157
where new bot
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if local bait is wrong we can argue about kyutz vs astro again
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>>545522860
deepchink is too retarded for big girls sadly
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>>545523157
I know what I have to do with that bot.
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>>545523278
>still no logs
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>>545523385
you do realize computers back then were bigger than microwaves right
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>>545523278
>people spending thousands on a rig to run absolutely sloppa models
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>>545521609
>Unless you plan the entire story in advance and give it the plot points.
That's literally what I'm doing kek, but it (sonnet) is still shitting the bed with the subtlety. I'm giving it authors and stories to take inspiration from and everything but it's still terrible. At this point I'm considering just importing a text script from some story in the author's notes so it would have something to imitate. Or not mention the plot details at first and only explain them later.

If there's nothing to help with the subtlety I guess I should ask if there are any good presets that atleast make it not direct so much attention to the plot details when mentioned?
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>>545523170
What else would explain the lack of constant quality between models of same weights that are for same purpose (rp)? Right, its the training data and what they've been generally fed. You will get different answers from an official Qwen vs Deepseek model of same weight because of who build it and with what training data. Its not a difficult concept to grasp.
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>>545523289
what should i enmakie hmm
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>>545523141
Is it not Friday in Japan already?
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Any shy clumsy teacher girl bots, had a dream I must re-enact
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>>545514749
At least they're actually trying to improve creative writing. And it shows. Their prose has always been the freshest.
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>>545523278
>hermes 70b
the 405b version is free on openrouter what's the point of running it locally
https://openrouter.ai/nousresearch/hermes-3-llama-3.1-405b:free
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>>545523529
It's just one of those things. The AIs are really bad at receiving information and not using it, kind of like why it's suggested not to use negatives in instruction. 'No unicorns' is sometimes interpreted as just 'unicorns' etc.

I have a similar issue with characters automagically knowing everything that's happened in the story so far even if they weren't present when it happened and had no way of possibly knowing. Stupid ass LLM can't help itself.

Literally just in the middle of a conversation, they'll drop the 'yeah you jerked off in the burger king toilets last year on december 21st, huh? good times'.

Because it can't actually reason why it wouldn't know that, the model only cares if it 'fits' the tokens before it.
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>>545516017
Prose allows for more nuance to explain how and why char is char whereas lists are just a flat script.
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>>545522860
I use local sometimes, but local essentially means Deepseek or GLM. Technically kimi, too.
You can test all of these easily on OR and find out they're not as intelligent as Claude or Gemini. Not to mention you'll need a $5k+ rig to run them at single digit tokens per second unquanted.
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>aicg-v1.1.safetensor
>aicg-v1.1.Q5_K_M.gguf
I wonder what kind of ism it will give birth to
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>>545524158
thank you anon, i was thinking this too but didn't know how to word it
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>>545519776
This hobby is marginally more expensive than gaming and significantly cheaper than every other hobby. I always find it strange when people start grumbling, probably because they don't actually have any other hobbies to compare this to.
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>>545524389
awawawa
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>>545524451
but how can it be more expensive than gaming if it's free?
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>>545524389
considering the cards people post
generic anime monstergirl slop

I legitimately don't think I've ever seen a single interesting card posted on aicg, ever
it's always just 'LOOK! AN ANIME GIRL WITH ANIMAL EARS! BUT WAIT! SHE HAS THIS ONE TOTALLY UNIQUE QUIRK!'
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>>545524531
Because slop free models are worse than their paid versions, objectively.
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>>545524158
I like this about prose too, but you can definitely do this with lists as well.
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>>545524605
but i use claude for free
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>>545524605
I'm using claude for free thanks to bedrock
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>>545524596
you already made this post
*pats*
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>>545524451
>be hardcore gamer
>very, very rarely spend money on games
>be chatbot enjoyer
>never spend money on chatbots

These hobbies are only expensive if you're fucking stupid.
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>>545524451
>marginally more expensive than gaming
Except you can pirate almost every good game.
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>>545524605
as anons mentioned, if you're serious about chatbots, find a proxy
and as for free models sucking, they don't
Gemini pro is every bit as good as Claude with the right instruction.
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>>545524451
>marginally more expensive than gaming
>significantly cheaper than every other hobby
so gaming is an extremely cheap hobby? if you pirate, maybe. then it's just an entry fee. but then again, playing music, drawing or even amateur sports don't have costs like gaming.
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>>545524731
and now I posted it again
struck a nerve? are you crying on discord?
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>>545525039
you are just a boring nigga, thats all. no passion for shitposting
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>model keeps describing how the bot's juices coat everything
sort of disgusting desu, maybe I am finally going to stop jacking off
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>>545524645
i feel i don't get what anyone means by prose anymore. isn't it just writing that attempts style? plenty do that, they just bullet point it…
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>>545524919
>playing music, drawing, or even sports
>no costs

you've never actually tried any of these, have you? Know how much a good instrument keyboard with weighed keys costs? Or a good drawing tablet? Or a good tennis racket?

Almost all hobbies have a price starting point.
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>>545525198
you're falling for bait
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>>545525146
grab a towel and dry it up?
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>>545525290
wait explain how that post is bait, I'm curious
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what the fuck do I do with my life now
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>cuddlying Zarya
>she starts using Russian slang pet names for me

Wholesome AND educational, bratan.
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>>545524919
my tablet cost like 800 bucks and csp brushes cost money too as does art school and art tuts :/
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THEEEMUUU SUGGESTIONUUU?!
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>>545525281
>>don't have costs like gaming
>DURR THIS MEANS THESE HOBBIES DON'T COST ANYTHING
you've never tried thinking before posting, haven't you? know how much a good instrument costs compared to a good PC? or a good drawing tablet? or a good tennis racket?

almost all hobbies have a price starting point, but gaming, especially PC gaming, has a much higher one than most. that's not to mention the running costs if you actually decide to pay for your games.
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>>545525538
a little early, innit?
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>>545524837
>every good game
If the game is actually good you should be supporting the devs you retard. Shit games are the ones you pirate.
>>545524919
Yeah I only spend $300-$400 a year on games and that's in a year where good stuff got released. This year was pretty mid.
>probably because they don't actually have any other hobbies to compare this to
>playing music
Entry fee for an instrument is pretty high. As a violinist a shit violin is like $400 minimum for entry. Then there's costs for maintenance like broken strings, resin, tutors. Maybe you can make some money back by doing gigs but it's not nothing.
>drawing
This is like gaming where you're supposed to pay subscription fees for the tools but people don't. If you do it in the real world then you need to pay upkeep for all the items. I actually tried getting into painting and was surprised how expensive the canvas and paint was a couple years back.
>sports
No fucking way bro equipment is expensive as fuck. Then it breaks down and needs to be replaced, not to mention physicals/injuries requiring doctor visits.
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>>545525538
boothill hsr PLEASE
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>>545525198
I think what people mean by prose is text divided into paragraphs that doesn't follow any set pattern
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>>545525601
>If the game is actually good you should be supporting the devs you retard
Nah
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>>545525598
720 isn't early. It gives everyone a shot at posting.
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>>545525661
crabs in a bucket.jpg
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>>545525538
>>545517429
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>>545525198
Prose = Writing one or more paragraphs that contain the information you want to convey.
List = It's a list. It looks like a list.
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>>545525538
indian street food
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>>545525538
FOLF FRIDAY
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>>545525538
hello kitty adventure island
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>>545525538
oversleeping in a cozy bed
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>>545525538
this feel
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>>545525538
lolis buying drugs
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>>545525538
smug mesugakis (male)
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>>545525750
Nah, I only buy games if they are on sale, no studio deserves 70$ or 90$ nowadays
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>>545525538
catgirls (stick physique(not stickmen))
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>>545525538
alice deross
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>>545523893
I don't want to worry about what the TOS shit is for that specific website and having it constantly bitch about "this is potentially illegal." into my ear when its all fucking fictional content. KEK.
>>545524596
That's because of above reasons. Anons keep it corpo-safe to not be terminated from ToS.
>Can't make harmful content towards a gender.
>Can't make harmful content that could contain criminal elements as part of the plot.
>Can't make harmful content that contains hate speech for the lulz.
>Can't make harmful content that behaves differently from big daddy china's views unless its somehow prefaced with "this is an alternate communist world where." (Then it buckles up and goes coocoo crazy. Obvious alignment issue.)
Yeah, about that.
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>>545525573
This isn't nearly the 'gotcha' you think it is.
You can get a mid-tier gaming PC these days for somewhere between 500-800 dollars. Less if you bargain hunt.
A mid-tier, REAL piano will cost you a similar amount of money.
As will a mid-tier drawing tablet.
A racket won't, but there's other costs. Renting the court, tennis shoes, the balls, etc. It adds up.

Again, if you think PC gaming is more expensive than most hobbies, you've never actually tried most other hobbies OR you're assuming that to be a PC gamer you need a 5090 with a 4k monitor.
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>>545525538
toxic yuri
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>>545525538
lolis not buying drugs because that's illegal
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>>545525762
what if multiple paragraphs are written in list form
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>>545525538
Patter's hands
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>>545525281
niggas really be thinking a good guitar will cost them any less than a couple thousand bucks
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>>545526061
why do you think that 'interesting' means 'illegal'?
is this how a pedo's brain works?
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>>545525538
Bokita
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>>545525538
male_focus armpit_focus
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>>545526070
where are the toxic yuri bots
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>>545525538
fox
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>>545526061
>>545526220
Why are you arguing with yourself?
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>>545525538
Hyakumantenbara Salome
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>>545525538
roll a dice and google the number you rolled
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>>545526270
taora.com
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>>545526185
yeah, people think gaming/pc industry is the only one that's getting massively jewed out by the manufacturers

it's a global thing
unless you're into hiking or cloud watching or some shit, you're shit out of luck, pay up
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>>545525601
>Violin.
Most people other than Asians don't really give a crap about the violin these days or other classical instruments in terms of new instruments people start out with:
>Piano/Keyboard/Digital for DAW shit.
(Most popular/used currently/always has been, can be had for under $200 for a set up.)
>Guitar/Bass/Ukulele falls under $350 for a practice rig for a cheapo set that plays decently but the maintenance due to strings can up the costs to $400.
>Drums
This is big boy territory and usually only rich kids have space and time to practice the drums (even electric ones.) $400-600 for a kit can be understandable.
Basically its like that. $400 for a hobby is reasonable in a year thoughbeit.
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>>545526486
Even hiking gets expensive if you want to make sure you don't get fucking eaten by something because of cosmic unluckiness.
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>>545526486
>hiking
also expensive, good hiking shoes will run you a couple hundred unless you want to fuck your feet up, not to mention other clothing/backpack etc.
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>>545526220
>You can't be edgy even with bots that are purely fiction.
>You have to be corpo safe.
>You have to listen to what the government does or you are a hecking pedo. (Somehow a person who's not a pedo first thinks of kids when they hear an argument they don't like... Hmmm. Your 10TB of CP tell me something.)
Newfags like you should rope. Cuckolding yourself to corpo mindset is why we ended up in this shit timeline to begin with and the reason we don't have unique or interesting games to play in recent years released.
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>>545526875
You forgot the part where you answer my question.
We get it, you're a pedo. Why can't you make a card that has nothing to do with that?
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>>545526656
>Hiking boots.
Just get military grade boots, they are usually cheap and build to tough it out in the wilderness.
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>>545526656
backpack, tent, utensils that don't weight a ton, an axe for when you need to chop wood or do some DYI work... I could go on.
t. hiker
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>>545525601
Maintenance for string instruments is highway robbery, I went to buy a new set of strings + regular maintenance for my guitar and paid $200. Shit's fucking crazy
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>>545527047
I literally have a lorebook about fighting though for Sillytavern made based on Tekken style worldbuilding. (I won't share its not ready for it yet.) ToS for most sites would not allow a yakuza-ran PMC running parts of the world because that's "muh nationalist criminal organization with right wing bent!" (Commie triads are okay though lmao.) I just hate hypocritical ToS.
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this baiter sucks, reeks of tourism
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>>545526875
>ablooo everything is corpo garbage now
the ironic thing is, there's less corpo garbage now than there was in the 90s or 2000s, because people have wider access to tools and hardware, and the internet is much larger.

you are stuck inside your head and cannot look out
you live in the days of people modding skyrim into giantess vore unbirth simulator OPENLY and you're crying about corporations, begging to go back in time where ONLY corps produced anything and even seeing a single nipple in a videogame made headlines across the world

get help, you are completely detached from the real world
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>>545527123
mrniggerbody tier slop
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>>545527225
>>545527225

https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=545437009&post=545525538&cutoff=750
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>>545527262
anon
have you seen the degenerate shit that's posted on chub?
you think anyone gives a single fuck about a PMC?
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>>545527336
>Muh mods meant those fetishes were corpo-safe.
Skyrim would've been Adults Only and banned from stores had those been in the box or at least purchasable through behind the counter. Mods =/= Games in their own right so nobody gives a shit what some wacky mod does.
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>>545527530
Yes, they literally removed Call of Duty cards because one of them was a fictional right wing nationalist chud terrorist from Russia during 2010s or what was it. They have Californian tranny-bias just like any other card hosting site.
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>>545527530
just read through this entire reply chain
i think he might be a legitimate schizophrenic
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>>545528193
>Opinion I know is right but I want to call false is SCHIZO because it makes me seem more righteous to support the current thing.
Tankie bitch just kys.
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>>545528328
what?
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>>545528386
You are playing oblivious to actual facts. A lot of users had their cards removed because of fictional characters had wrong world views on CHUB. Yet others stayed because it didn't offend communists from California who are trans and gay.
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>>545528494
There are literal cunny cards on chub anon
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>>545528562
>Muh cunny is somehow hecking controversial for a china backed industry of AI cards.
Corposafe retard. (as long as they are 13+ according to big daddy ccp.) Yeah I know about their degen shit but somehow certain topics that are offensive only to commies are banned.
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>>545529079
right, because the fictional call of duty russians are what the commie trannies truly fear
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>>545529229
Yes unironically, go look them up. They just hate Russia cuz Russia bad cuz macho and shit destroying Ukraine (home to commie pedos, their favorites in the war since they produce their CP.)
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can't spell CCCP or CPC without CP



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