Dynamic Duo Edition>News:Patch 8: https://baldursgate3.game/news/the-final-patch-new-subclasses-photo-mode-and-cross-play_138Patch 7: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-7-now-live_121Patch 6: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-6-now-live_108Patch 5: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-5-now-live_99>Wiki:https://bg3.wiki>Mods:https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/>FAQ:>Q: How often should I long rest?>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.>Q: Can I recruit Minthara without going down the evil path?>A: If you knock her out in Act 1, yes. You do miss out on the sex scene, but otherwise the romance remains the same.>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where, if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?>A: No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC 21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of low rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.>Polls:>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnYOP pasta: https://rentry.org/bggpastaPrevious thread: >>544695338
first for withers
>>545520512my bad
This is the previous thread: >>545133353.You have to do things right. Even if it's pointless.
>>545520307WE LOVE WYLLWE LOVE WYLLTHE ONLY CONTENT OF BG3 CHARACTERS POST BG3 THAT SHOULD BE DEVELOPED IS OF WYLLGET ON IT WOTC
What is the best element ingame
>>545521071He doesn’t need to do anything. Some busybody retard with nothing better to do will always be there to do it for him :)
>>545521345true
>>545521229probably lightning, it does twice as much damage when the target is wet and has a lot of item and spell synergy and AoEs, honorable to psychic damage with the resonant stone debuffing the enemy and light with the radiating orb build
>>545521345You don't need to be here. You didn't need to post that worthless comment. You never needed to contribute endless whining whenever you see the namefag. You don't need to call cute Tavs ugly. But here you are.
>>545521345Based
Where is Shartfag?
>>545521229>>545521851Fun fact: throwing somebody to a water surface while wearing Sparkle Hands and having Lightning Charges electrifies it. I haven't tested if the latter alone is enough for the effect but it's worth to keep in mind. Especially if you're fighting alongside allies.>>545520580Twelveth for Anon!
>>545524270I'm 99% sure you can turn clouds into lightning clouds if you got lightning charges on you and walk through them too
>every time karlach says "hey good lookin!"
>>545522059You have to take your meds.
>>545525514this but soldier
>>545522529
>about to camp for the last time before moving to Act 3>Halsin is not in the camp nor amongst the inactive companionsHuh. I had him recruited all the way to the rooftop and I was able to speak with him in the Main Hall after everything. Do I really have to drag him manually into the next act? Lame.
>>545528341check shadowheart's tent
>>545528449>*Badump tssslmao gottemShart cucks seething and malding
>>545528341No you don't have to. Sounds like a bug.
>>545528449>>545529063Yeah, it's like when you visit the camp after ungrouping: your active companions get left behind on the main map. Swapping him to the active party seemingly worked. I'm about to do a major end-of-the-Act sorting job in the camp chest, I damn sure won't risk losing all that by hoping for the best-case scenario.
where's the upper city patch? when's the space game getting revealed? is wyll ok?
Maybe you need to share another irrelevant tweet from some Larian guy. That's a way to drive up engagement.>>545525808There are only like ten posters left. It's not difficult to recognize the usual suspects. For example, there's the irrelevant tweet shitposter, the wife anon who has a different wife every day, and then there's you. Would you believe you all have something in common?
chaddest of all chads /ourceo/, the man that made bg3 the game of 2020-2025, Swen Vincke.
Medium armor kind of annoys me in act 3. It's all stuff for full dex characters instead of ones that stopped at 14
dont like jaheira
>>545544302Why not, she's cool and epic
>>545545116shes old and a cuntalso dont like druids
What website can I use to look for builds?
>>545519786>yOu NeVeR bEaT tH-*self-inflicted gunshot*mad, gay, autistic, and have aids. eat shit
>>545538187There is flame enameled armor at least, although adamantine scale mail stays competitive in act 3. Medium armor doesn't peak as early as longswords though, you get Phalar Aluve and Voss' Silver Sword in act 1.
>>545545369Stop being ageist >cuntstop picking evil options
>>545546020noalso nofirst thing she does is try to kill you
I did a loyalist lae'zel run and she actually declined ascension without prompting at the end, even though Orpheus is dead and she'd be entitled to it.
>>545546169Because she has to be wary in the Shadow Aids land!
>>545545369What's wrong with druids?
>>545519786It's only really cheesy because dropping items is a free action and how easily you can just load up Karlach or Lae'zel's inventory with the stuff. If it actually took an action or at least part of an attack to throw them it would be different
>>545546784its only the single male druid they have issue with
>>545546784both the druids in the game are unlikeable cuntsalso they suck in a fight
Don't like Astarion. He's old and a bitch. The first thing he does is try to kill me. Also don't like vampires.
>>545544302If Jaheira isn't alright by you then you aren't alright by me!>>545546169Not at all. She only entangles you as she expects the Absolute to send some True Souls to infiltrate the inn. Hell, even if you break out of her vines she gives you another shot to stand down.
>>545547234Perfectly reasonable. Jaheira is great though
>>545547234agreed>>545547301dumb bitchgonna kill her this time to
Don't like Wyll. He's a warlock and b
she cute
>>545547653And a fucking NI-
>>545545713It's amusing how upset you are that you've never beaten this game. Others would simply select Explorer difficulty and move on.
I just wanted to say
>>545553379I really don't understand her act 3 new contract proposal. Is it basically "Sign this or I'll keep trying to kill your dad". or is the implication they actually had something on the grand duke from his time in Elturel? Because there was very little chance of you not coming across the iron throne
>>545553746It's figure it's a last ditch effort to get Wyll back under contract.
>>545553970*I figure
>>545553746I still think that wyll's story would have been better if they just let us fight mizora, maybe meet zariel idk
I can express how aroused orins "duties" speech made me
>>545553379
>>545553970I just mean the proposal seems weirdly weak. There's lines about him being "fated" to be killed by his enemies if you reject the deal and still save him, but it's not like that really seems like something she ever had control of in the first place other than actively trying to kill him herself.
>>545554483>mizora was written by a gay furry>she gives you an STD if you fuck herhmmm
Thinking of making a shadow monk, helf (better at fighting) or zariel tiefling (better at talking)?
>>545554839It's not an STD, it's a devil's love bite
>>545555179Half-Elf for sure. Wood to be precise for the increased movement and Stealth Proficiency. Monk is not a "talker" class, it simply can't afford it. Thaumaturgy won't help that much with that.
>>545555180>mizora fucks you so hard you start smelling like her
>>545555740I meant a high elf, the weapon proficiencies of full elves are better for monk than the helf ones since two-handers and shields are useless to monks but longswords and longbows aren't. I assume I'll be using weapons a lot more than with OH monk.
>>545546541beautifulfrog
>>545553379yes
>>545546814throwing takes an action. dropping them in front of an enemy breaks invisibility. have you played this game? lol
>>545556785Try working on your reading comprehension. The problem is that there's an option that doesn't require an action
astarion's quest, the epilogue, the circus, mizora's hairy pussy and the house of hope are the only good thing about act 3
>>545557089Saving Dalyria's life is up there too.
>>545557734>astarion's quest
>>545557089froggy sunrise?
>>545556337Shadow Monk is ultimately about Shadow Strike but it comes late (level 11). The meta here is (for lack of a better word) backwards progression: Resonance Stone's Psychic Vulnerability will be needed to maximize SS and if you're there why shouldn't you use Shadow Blade (cast from the ring named after it) as a weapon? Since you can get that almost as soon as you step into Act 2 your weapon choice is only relevant in the first Act. Afterwards it's SB and whatever you stat stick you find useful. Of course you play however you want but this is the most common way to maximize the subclass' strength.
>>545558341She can die during that quest though
>>545555180Damn, Mizzie's looking alright in this pic.
>>545546541That's my frog.
>>545546541cute frog
worst yuri ship gets the best art
>>545557035>'hehe I said throwing takes no action and he shit on me and said it did >.<.... uh oh *shits* *hits faggot banana-flavored vape with 0% nicotine* l2read chuddie!!!! wew close one'
stop
me on the right
>>545562450Looks good to me!
>>545563698She's a acute angle, thank you
>>545563698What's her class
Missionary with Astarion
>>545570393mfmmhhh
>>545570393wowza!
Man I love the verticality of Act 3. There really is nothing like roof-hopping across the city.
>>545577259me personally I didn't care much for it
I want to like Lae'zel bros, I really do. She's a qt.But fuck bros you just know that bitch doesn't bathe or brush her teeth. She probably reeks of dried frogshit and rotten meat breath.
>>545562814
>>545568542cute frog and drow!
>>545577912how can a race that doesn't poop smell like poop
>>545577912you sound like that retard that was like, "k...k-kagha I w-w-w-want to like her b-but she must be s-soooo dirty >.<"
>>545570393It's hilarious that even the dev notes agree that Tav - not the Dark Urge or any other Origin - is the only one gullible enough to fall for Astarion. Maybe Tav appears elsewhere in the dev notes, and maybe it's just a shorthand for "the player character," but this is what I choose to believe.
anyone have those zevlor memes? my buddy just got into bg3 and i wanna show him
>>545577259It may be time to find another game.
I don't get the hexblade patron's relationship with a warlock. If it's an entity from the plane of shadow, wouldn't the powers be more shadow themed? It's clearly supposed to be themed around someone who's connected to a cursed sword (or similar), but it's kind of strange to do that without any mention of keeping some cursed item and putting all that Raven Queen bullshit in there instead
Why doesnt Larian care about reactivity, but instead focus on random little features nobody cares about like speaking with dead and animals. Hell i think it would be worthwhile to sacrifice playable origins just so base experience of a custom characters and companion is better.
>>545585294This loaded question warrants no serious answer.
>>545585294you forgot your lust provoking image to go with your time wasting question
>>545586023I was going to say I care way more about spells like speak with dead and animals having actual relevance than people reacting strongly to you being an elf or whatever he wants, but then I realized it wasn't worth the time
>>545579294my top two fav characters of bg3
>>545586163I dont believe you are a real person, but if this is a genuine opinion youre a tiny minority.Speak with the dead or animals is not worthwhile at all in BG3, it was honestly a waste of time engaging with it. Its like engaging with those npcs that have oneliners.Most people play the game for the interactivity and immersive experience with interesting companions, not random rats with a bunch of hirelinds or hireling-tier companions staring blankly into space.
>>545586427nasty
I can't imagine playing through this game more than 2 times, max. Really struggling to finish everything up in Act 3.Wouldn't exactly call it a timeless classic, I guess.
>>545586964you don't have to report your own appearance you know
>>545587002Yeah i feel you, definitely not made for completionists like us.
>>545587002>I can't imaginebet this nigga can't even conjure the image of an apple in his head
>>545587002I have played act 1 like 50 times now
>>545587274>act 1You proved his point, you played act 1 far more than actually completing the game, because later part of the game is bad in comparison.
Finesse Longsword sneak attack build sounds like it'd be pretty strong, but how does it hold up in Act 2 onward? I'd imagine you'd have to pair it with ranger or fighter.
>>545587538Yeah but I still played the start more times than I should
>>545588463and was it worth it?
>>545586718>but if this is a genuine opinion youre a tiny minority.But they're still just as valid and important as any other player. If BG3 were made for the most average player (which you posture as a spokesperson for), then we wouldn't have playable midget races (they're always ugly and unpopular), roleplay-tier spells like Disguise Self or Speak with Dead - ironically very useful tools to gauge reactivity and immersion - or male romances like Astarion, since the average player is male and heterosexual. The list of unnecessary features you could trim to tailor the game to your ideal experience would be unending. However, player choice is core to any decent roleplaying game, so it's not a flaw that BG3 offers it in spades.
name one other game where you get to speak to voiced animals
>>545588864>But they're still just as valid and important as any other playerNo, they are not equally valid and important, just like fags and trannies, you will just hurt your product by catering to them as if they are equally important. There was no need for philosophy tube in bg3, or all the gay gnomes or Halsin romance.If you say you wouldnt play the game without those features - youre lying, but im also okay with you not playing the game for the sake of making the game better for 90% of the audience. If Speak with the dead/animals wasnt in the game it wouldnt affect anyone's opinion on the game. But lack of banter and reactivity in Act 3 hurt virtually everyone's opinion on the game (except some weirdos playing the game for odd reasons).They need to cater to primary core audience, the target audience
>>545587002That's because your kind treats RPGs like they're one-and-done experiences. You consume them like any other casual who has heard of Popular Thing, then, when you're done with them, shelve them forever and never look back. I doubt you'd have the curiosity, let alone the imagination, to replay the so-called timeless classics like BG2 - there is, after all, very little variation possible between good and evil playthroughs, and the plot is pretty much on rails after Spellhold. Bodhi doesn't give a shit about your alignment.
>>545588864>Disguise Self or Speak with Dead - ironically very useful tools to gauge reactivity and immersionThey do neither of those things. What does speak with dead have to do with immersion? Its not an expectation for any game. On the contrary it breaks immersion because you can immediately see the hand of the designer, picking and choosing when you can use the feature and when you cant. You cant speak with dead for vast majority of npcs which is why they made corpses glow green when you are allowed to use it.But 90% of the time you dont learn anything new from them, it has little mechanical or narrative usefulness. Usually they repeat things you already know or can learn from some note, its redundant information. Even when they reveal treasure its something you probably already found or will find through exploration.Animals just usually give you some funny oneliners and you learn nothing, "meow im a cat, kill rats and im hungry" is how it usually goes.Player choice can be enhanced by improved and more fleshed out stories in the actual questlines, no animals needed. Instead of leaving them half baked or rushed. The dialogue options are often lacking.
>>5455904064 words in and I already stopped reading. Take your meds
>>545590406And what kind of RPG is bg3? After playing good you have to play evil for shits and giggles? Im not sure what your argument is. What variations does BG3 have? There is just the correct path and paths that are illogical to choose by roleplaying as retard.
>nearly 20 mil copies soldi'd say they cater quite well to the core audience
>>545590780No, they should listen to the guy who uses the enter key too much to rant about how it should have been two years later
>>545590416Disguise yourself as a drow, and you can bypass much of the goblin checks in Act 1. Reactivity. Speak with the dead, and you might learn useful information that might guide your next course of action. Immersion. Neither of these things means much to the metagaming autist who just bulldozes from point A to point Z without much care for the world or any silly obstacles the devs might put on their path. But that's not roleplaying - speedrunning is an entirely different category.
>>545590780Youre so right dood, 20 million bought the game to speak with animals and to fuck animals. I apologize, you to totally convinced me that their priorities were correct.
>>545590416This is true. Speak with the Dead is for the most part useless bloat.
I need him so bad
>>545591074Its just copypasted content from a drow playthrough, not a feature designed for "disguise self". There is basically no content specifically done for "disguise self". If there was then there wouldve been characters that could detect youre disguised or something.
>>545589438>There was no need for X, Y, and ZI already said that. You're just repeating my point like a parrot. Yes, I would still have bought and enjoyed the game if Astarion had not been romanceable - because I don't give a rat's ass about romancing Astarion. But the world doesn't revolve around me, and I don't mind that the game offers a romance tailored for the sister.
>for the sister
>>545591409romancing astarion is far more necessary and the reason far more people buy the game for than nothing burgers like speak with the dead they wasted development time for.Romance options are even more important that playable origins, when vast majority of players want to play a custom character and interact with those characters - not play as them.DAO wouldnt have sold a single extra copy if the game allowed you to play through the game as Morrigan and Alistair. But it sold many copies because you could romance them.
It’s kinda cute how he thinks nobody notices his schizophrenic samefags or his attempts to create multiple personalitiesDoes anyone have any mod suggestions? I’m about to start a new run with friends but haven’t kept up to date with newer releases
>>545589438the male suicide rate needs to be higher omg
>>545591773I agree, you’re a retarded male that the world would be better off without
>>545591896uh oh meltie
Schizo still mad that women like Astarion huh
>>545590749>And what kind of RPG is bg3?It's a similar game to BG2, but with more reactivity and player expression possible. Try playing some of the timeless classics you mention - BG2 is a good start. I have, which is why I'm qualified to make the comparison.>>545591256>Its just copypasted content from a drow playthroughMoving the goal posts. No shit that NPCs react as if you were a drow - effectively "copypasting" the reactions they would have if you were an actual under-elf - one might even go so far as to say that's one of the main goals of a spell called "Disguise Self." There are limits to how stupid you can act before I grow bored with you.
>>545591747From what i have heard BG2 is more like DAO. DAO has more reactivity than BG3, more banter. Companions are done way better than bg3 in dao.
>>545592004There's a variety of topics being covered. It's more accurate to just say "schizo still mad"
>>545592060BG2 has almost no reactivity. There's like a handful of dialogue options restricted by your mental scores that don't matter
pookie
>>545592437penis bones...
>>545592225>>545592437Would you like to hear my thoughts on how Astarion is a better character when he's not romanced?
>>545592589no I like my men codependent
>>545592040the point is that disguise self is a low effort feature a modder could make easily. Just requires the spell switch some flags and that's it. It doesnt really have a budget cost like origin characters and speak with waste of time.
Speaking of BG1 and 2 isn't it kind of weird Minsc mentions a lot of the former party members, but never Imoen?
>>545592589you never did this romance schizoid, you just read welch's and other anons posts
>>545592040You’re such an idiot lol
>>545592896I never romanced Astarion, true. My thoughts are therefore centered on who he is as a character, without romantic feelings as complications. There is no contradiction.
Astarion won
>>545592672This is not particularly relevant. To repeat myself, the list of unnecessary features you could trim to tailor the game to your ideal experience would be unending. I would personally get rid of the playable midget races, the non-character and the sex pest, and Selûnite propaganda. You would get rid of non-combat spells (what's the point of roleplaying spells in a roleplaying game?) and inoffensive minor NPCs who happen to offend you very much. But the world doesn't revolve around you, or me.
Can't decide on a class for resist durge. Something melee focused.
>>545593584I would get rid of speak with animals not because its "non-combat" but because it takes up budget and time of developers. You again are missing the point."You can do anything, but you cant do everything". Larian spread themselves too thinly, everything is a trade off. If you write dialogue and do voice acting for some unimportant thing, youre not doing writing and voice over on something more important. I dont care if there is speak with animals/dead if more important content isnt lacking.You're acting like those spells add value to the game, but they really dont, compared to more banter and reactivity. DAO wouldnt be a better game with speak with the dead and animals, but it would be a much worse game withought as much reactivity and banter that it had. Sorry if this is difficult for you to accept
>>545594147Most melee class dialogue options are just threats. Monk has some random diplomatic ones that you probably wont have the proficiency or charisma to live up to and a few other oddball ones. I don't really remember the rogue ones. I only remember that stupid ring thing in the druid encampment and an easier roll to get Oscar's price downI guess there's also paladin, and is the class for upholding ideals, but I never play those so I have no idea past the basic concept what to expect
>first and most immediate/promising solution presented to the player for now to remove the parasite is Lae'zel's creche>this is reiterated multiple times as both the most concrete option, and as one that is extremely urgent as the parasite could convert you at any given moment>the path to the Mountain Pass is mostly straightforward and, should the player prioritize what the narrative and other characters emphasize is the single most important and time-sensitive thing for you to resolve, they can get there quickly and with little distraction>game then cuts you out of a majority of Act 1 content if you actually decide to do thisWhy did they do this?
>>545595751because a lot of rushed ideas and its all poorly thought out. Long rest = story progress is a garbage idea for example.Everything about mysterious artefact and how it comes to player's possession is extremely poorly thought out, immersion breaking even. They shouldve just given it to player in the prologue and it wouldve worked much more smoothly. Vinke is too autistic
>>545594372>it takes up budget and time of developers.Everything does. Everything is a trade-off. Stating that is not insightful in the slightest. I'm not missing the point at all. I simply disagree with the flawed assumption that RPGs should limit player choice or player expression, by omitting anything you arbitrarily deem superfluous. Being a Druid or Ranger who can talk to beasts is just as unnecessary as having five different elemental surfaces. Being able to speak with the dead can even reveal information - corpses hold very few secrets - which is just as optional as killing everything in your path with no questions asked.>You're acting like those spells add value to the game, but they really dont, compared to more banter and reactivity.This is a false dichotomy. The choice was never between "voice all the animals and a few dozen corpses" or "give companions 25% more banter." This is akin to suggesting that all the time spent writing these food descriptions should have been spent making the non-character more interesting than untoasted white bread. The two have little to do with one another. As for whether roleplay-tier spells add "value" to a roleplaying game, the answer is self-evident. Not all of BG3 is combat - and the combat leans on the easy side even for a casual player - so it follows that anything that contributes to immersion or roleplaying is obviously meaningful.
>>545597828>RPGs should limit player choice or player expressionYou think the game is "limiting player choice and expression" by not allowing players to speak with rocks?That's right im 100% sure you would defend a feature that allows you to "speak with rocks" with identical arguments you are using now and acting like its adding lots of value to RPG and im trying to take it away from you. But "speak with rocks" would be about as valueable as speak with dead/animals are right now.It's just people like you have difficulty to imagine a game with anything youre already used to and cant imagine anything better.> This is akin to suggesting that all the time spent writing these food descriptionsmy suggestion was not a false dichotomy but yours is. Its much cheaper to just write a note, than writing a note and having a specific voice over for it, as well as scripting an event with dialogue options - this is the same stuff you need more more companion reactivity and banter.So yes im sure if they spent less time and budget on that, theyd have more for other things. Ofcourse playable origin characters take much more than those things combined, but that might be more difficult to convince people as being unnecessary.They could definitely have made custom character feel more like part of the world like Dragon age did.Moments like: why doesnt Mizora react to Raphael's death. Why doesnt Minthara and Halsin have anything to say to each other or about each other?Why cant you bring up Omeluum while talking to Emperor?Why doesnt the guy buried alive by Minsc react to being dug up by Minsc or if Minsc is in your party? Immersion breaking. They shouldve accounted for more possibilities and writers shouldve cooperated more on stories. Its like Mizora's and Raphael's writers are unaware of eachother's characters.
Any armor/underwear mod that fit tiefling tails?
>>545599226Omitting spells like Speak with Dead would be a net loss, yes. It's one of D&D's signature non-combat spells that enable roleplaying and turn the game into more than a combat simulator with rounds and DPR. To argue otherwise runs contrary to the spirit of D&D and the idea of a lived world with meaningful magic that shapes behavior - even society. Faerûn is not a place where you can talk to rocks, so your analogy is nonsensical. It is, however, a place where animals might be unexpected informants and even the dead can reveal secrets. BG3 is a better D&D RPG when it reflects that, with its talking animals and murder mysteries and "useless" roleplaying spells.>my suggestion was not a false dichotomy but yours is.Clever. There is nothing to suggest that the person who was responsible for writing Scratch's or the owlbear cub's lines would have been helpful in aiding the companions' writers with more banter. So what dev resources were squandered in your delusion? You're saying that trimming X and Y would have automatically improved Z, even though they have nothing in common. It's an illogical assumption of a zero-sum scenario, and frankly, ignorant.
>>545601482>t that the person who was responsible for writing Scratch's or the owlbear cub's lines would have been helpful in aiding the companions' writers with more banterThey have finite resources in terms of budget, and it doesnt just take a single writer's time, its also taking time of multiple devs, studio time and voice actor time. You can pay a different writer to do more work in more important areas, where the same devs would assist and pay the more important voice actors to voice more lines for more important dialogue.If you are a completionist then you cant learn from speak with the dead that you wouldnt have learned anyway. It's an alternative at best.In steelwatch foundry there's a gnome corpse you can speak with that will tell you that there is a submarine (iron throne) and that Toobin knows how to destroy the foundry. First of all i found him when Toobin was already in my party and i had already done the Iron throne. But even if that wasnt the case you learn about the submarine much earlier from notes and books you can find and you cant really miss Toobin before you get there. So what was the point of this speak with the dead crap?You learn nothing, and the ability is available to everyone easily, the process is slow and boring and you cant even ask every question - you already know its pointless to ask "who are you" etc.
>>545599226Just stop replying. He only responds at all because typing wordy replies makes him feel intelligent. It doesn’t matter how blatantly he misses the point, or even if he replies to the correct argument. He just gets a rush from typing pseudo-intellectual walls of text. This very special boy is the resident schizo, and should be avoided when possible. >>545601073Not really. Even the base armors clip like crazy, it’s just part of the experience.
>>545602209>They have finite resources in terms of budgetYou already stated that, and that was never a point of contention because it's obvious. What you don't address is the flawed assumption of treating game development as a zero-sum system - simply allocating more man-hours to a project doesn't magically produce better results. The person who wrote Scratch's lines was assigned to that task presumably because it's low-impact, and Scratch is not a meaningful character but just an annoying mutt. The person who wrote Mizora's interactions could maybe have done a better job, but that has nothing to do with Scratch. It's not as simple as saying man-hours were wasted on Scratch, and, in hindsight, should have been spent on Mizora, because you can't easily transfer specific skills or character understanding that way.>If you are a completionist then you cant learn from speak with the dead that you wouldnt have learned anyway.If you play the game more than once, you don't even need to roleplay, explore, investigate, or pry into Shadowheart's faith - because it will be revealed to you anyway. Does that mean all these Selûnite and Sharran interactions in Act 1 were wasted since they are functionally redundant? You can just beeline to the brain and win the game without all that "completionist" baggage. That's no longer roleplaying or immersion. It's called speedrunning.
Do you see what I mean? He just dismisses whatever he feels like regardless of the argument, chooses what he wants to talk about, and then types a wall of bullshit. It isn’t worth reading or engaging with. Just ignore him, he’s utterly worthless as a poster and an alleged human.
Actually, the first number was already correct and the "correction" was the mistake.>>545604881>wordy repliesThe post you're replying to is 295 words long, minus the greentext. And my post it is a reply to was 204 words long, minus the greentext. So hey, maybe it's not the wordiness of posts that's the issue for you. Maybe you're just a dishonest, whiny crybaby.
do u ever sweater sleeves pulled over your hands talking in a baby voice hair in your eyes saying things like “mmmmm” and “mmm” and “i don’t feel very good” because i do that every day Act 3 is soooooooooo fucking bad and horrendous
I have a .357 magnum with hollow point ammunition point directly at Shadowheart’s face and I am going to pull the trigger
>>545608916this but the poster above you
Oak father preserve us all.
https://youtu.be/OFgdle8bhfA?si=RJcRq2cnQyrsaOJz
>>545587002You play it for the gameplay, the build variety, trying shit out. I found myself skipping through most dialogue after my second or third full playthrough.
>>545610946Pretty cool, thanks for sharing! Seeing such clips always feel bittersweet because I can't help but wonder how many similar ones are in the game files we might never see.>>545587002Outside of my first playthrough with a more or less goody-two shoes Tav I see a full degenerate evil Durge run either solo or Minthara, then a resist Durge one with a full party where I generally go to the opposite direction with my decisions (so companion paths I haven't experienced yet, quest solutions and outcomes I haven't tried, even more creative ways to interact with the game in general etc.). I'll also respect everybody to interesting builds I've yet to tried even if it's not lore-friendly for them and keep my "missed/cool shit to-do" list open to maximize the experience. That's it. Judging by the amount of content and the number of variables to play with I can see myself getting 3 playthroughs out of this game.
>>545589210>name one other game where you get to speak to voiced animals
>>545613009>BG3>build variety
bg3 is so influential other genres copy its character designs this is literally karlach
https://youtu.be/-JFVxo720jU?si=F93xZkFVEjDy-KyF
Quick idea: Necromancer run where you collect corpses of your enemies in your party chest. I'll have to check if there's a mod that let's you animate fallen NPCs in their original form to fight beside you.
>>545623528Karlach wishes
I have two questions1: How do you guys deal with Alfira not being a companion? I'm trying to find ways to at least have a copy of her as one on console, but none have been satisfactory.2: What time do mod releases on console usually drop? It's Friday and there haven't been any mod releases nor updates yet.
>>545621938t. pleb who copies meta builds instead of coming up with his own
>>545630202>I'm trying to find ways to at least have a copy of her as one on consoleI knew I read about this somewhere: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbx5NikcrlA
>>545632406>>545632589>>545632747What the fuck are you doing
>>545632128lol this isn't pathfinder bro, there's no "builds" really, it's all just "pick whatever you think is cool" because everything is completely viable.
first time playing wow that fight w/ the githyanki guys at the bridge was crazy hard i had to just let them kill laezel and lure them up to the wooden bridge and push them off
>>545591219he is mine back off??
I'll be honest when I first played BG3 I thought I was missing something on the level-up screens"surely this can't be it..." I thought to myself, confused. But no, that was it. Three (3) feats, out of a single generic list where half the shit is garbage. A couple class features which are often super underwhelming, and of course, some HP.Some levels, HP is all you get! I'm not even kidding.
>>545633195>i had to just let them kill laezelbased
Have anyone tried this one yet? can't find any vids/gifs https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/19543?tab=description
the concept art outfits were so cool
>>545634292LMAO what the fuck I remember ethel's pregnant belly jiggling this will make the reveal even nastier
>>545632853Too many things at once.>>545633195That's somewhat an end of the Act content despite the narrative inconsistency >>545595751 rightfully brought up. No wonder it was hard but congrats for completing! Just don't forget to resurrect Lae'zel with the scroll in your (or anybody's) inventory and bring her along! The Mountain Pass and beyond is a major part of her companion quest.>>545633574What class did play and what were you expectations? You still have weapon actions, consumables (including grenades and oils) or all kinds, magical clothing and armor that gives extra features... it's not like you're short on options how to approach fights.
>>545632747Thanks anon. At the very least, the creation guide is helping me to recreate Alfira as a custom companion, which is nice.
>>545633574You played a martial class right?CastersBVLLS get all the good stuff
>>545635452>classBarbarian, then Wizard>expectationsI knew it wouldn't be WotR but good lord>>545636518>all the good stuffk
Love her
>>545639013sex
>>545639013*smooch*
>>545613009I second the other posters. This game, and by extension dnd 5e is really shallow when it comes to making builds, which is why ppl do multiclassing nonsense that isnt immersive and has no class identity - but its shallow anyway still.But also this game is piss easy, easily trivialized by using your brain. Hardest bosses are easy on hardest difficulty, no cheese or special builds required for it to be trivial.The game has "builds" for people who are not good enough to play actual ARPGs - Elden Ring or PoE.Anyway - all Larian homebrew shit is broken as hell and OP - radiant orbs, reverberation and arcane acuity. Just put them on whoever benefits and win.
>>545639013literally built for Shadowheart
>>545639767Shadowheart takes it from everyone
Is it me or modding in this game is pretty much dead? It really doesnt compare to Skyrim at all, not even close. I only played the game recently, but it seems most mods stopped updating 2 years ago
>>545636781Pathfinder was build autism even with Kingmaker. I still haven't played it but from what I saw WotR turned it up even further. Comparing anything mainstream to them will only lead to disappointment, especially if we're talking about a such casual-friendly developer as Larian and a such simplified DnD edition as 5. However, if you love combat and the mechanical side of it I can only recommend you the Knights of the Chalice series. It's an indie gem made by a sole dev including the engine and the complete toolset. It's old-school in a lot of sense but it's safe to say it features the most precise recreation of (OGL) 3.5 tabletop RPG combat. Both KotC 1 and 2 has a detailed FAQ on the series' official website, whatever further question you have the odds is that it's already answered there!
>>545640134we had our first ever fully voiced companion with voicelines in act 1,2 and 3 a month ago good mods take time
>Amulet of Silvanus hidden under a rock in Act 1Years later, I still find new shit in this game. How did they do it?
>>545640134path to menzoberranzan is a big project coming out in a year or two.> It really doesnt compare to Skyrim at allSkyrim modders stood on the shoulders of giants
It's time the Blade got provoked once moreRemira died
>>545640180Thanks, maybe I'll check that out sometime
>>545641247>How did they do it?Love
>>545641362OPEN THE BLOODY GATE
>>545641345useful mods: enhances base game experiencecringe mods: fanfiction mods
Scouts - get to the high ground. Raiders - charge the bastards! For the Absolute!
>>545642378I wasn't romancing Wyll nor did I have him in the party when I slept with Mizora and he still disapproved.
Kanon, NOO!
>>545640134Similar to a game like Cyberpunk, most of the mods now are cosmetics or photo mode related. This is good for waifu and husbando fags, but very bad for people interested in actually playing the game.
>>545642548I totally have Kanon's Belongings on me all the time to keep his memory alive, not because it's one of the few unique Pouches with a visually distinct icon that makes it perfect for my Once In a Long Rest items or anything!>>545641247Just wait until you find out the bear nearby keeps the whole Grove fed.>>545641362I don't know if it's fixed by now but she was the only character in the game who broke the camera for me. You know how it lines up the participants and switches to certain angle when a dialogue starts, right? With her it never switched back once we were finished. It was the same dialogue camera except in third person, so with an increased distance and I believe distorted FOV. If I recall a simple double click on your chars normalized the situation but it was still interesting.
>>545645871BG3 not being a sandbox makes the scope of some kind of mods very big,games like Skyrim have much more room to add new things, new content, etc.BG3 is always constantly tied to the plot, and you kinda need to think about how to emancipate from that if you want to make bigger and more complex stuff
>>545635452i revived her yeah she was rly angry when i spoke to her but idk if it was bc i let her die or bc the githyanki tried to kill her off to underdark now i kept putting it off bc it was so hugegreat game and first crpg
bg3 originally had cool backgrounds when looting. like a skeleton, a big pouch, a box. Now its just gay.
>>545646348lae'zel is the most reasonable githyanki
>>545646549they were leftovers from dos2, I still hope that they'll go back to giving each container type a unique loot background it's cute
>>545555180like poetry
>>545641802/agdg/ is on suicide watch
https://youtu.be/r-tCtb2EoZE
>>545520307Do you have any self-made rules while playing? For example I never equip anything I found or bought right away. I always wait until the next Long Rest so I can see everything new at one place and make decision according to the big picture.
>>545652313Always kill astarion and halsin.And wyll
>>545652313I only use Haste / Speed potion on the Iron Throne event.
>>545652313skip as much cutscenes and dialogues with the emperor as possible
Lae'zel's got something against Baldurian people.
Durlag did nothing wrong
what is /bgg/ playing aside of bg3?
>>545659923based'zel
>>545660873dos2
>>545660873I was playing Stardew but now im back at trying different classes in balls hurt 3
>>545639670>multiclassing nonsense that isnt immersiveMulticlassing isn't necessarily non-immersive unless, like the attention whore, you just smash two unrelated classes - such as Druid and Monk - together and decide to call it a day, because cheating is more important to you than roleplaying. Whatever you can justify within a level 12 cap is entirely acceptable. Some classes are already naturally adjacent to each other, e.g., a (Shadow) Monk/Rogue combination wouldn't raise any eyebrows. For some companions, it might even be lore-accurate. Jaheira was a Fighter/Druid in BG2.>Anyway - all Larian homebrew shit is broken as hell and OP - radiant orbs, reverberation and arcane acuityYou don't even need these to build a flavorful character. But more importantly, this touches upon how itemization in BG3 allows a greater breadth of build diversity than one would expect in 5E D&D. For all the number-crunching players have come to expect of 3.5E/Pathfinder, there's little to no discussion of itemization in WotR. So build diversity ironically ends up pretty stale - pick 16 levels of this class, then dip into X, Y, and Z - it's already been "figured out." Any deviation just means a less optimal build. In BG3, items are much more build-defining. A simple example is using the Resonance Stone to go all-in on psychic damage. Another character concept could be stacking AC and building around the concept of reflect damage, and many items actually support this. It's not just about picking X/Y/Z levels and playing the exact same thing as everyone else.
>>545662169
>if the Sponge Tray is used in an inactive companion's inventory it still cleans the last active oneDid You Know? Me neither. I had one of those rare right-facing Water bottles I always got rid of, so I threw it at Lae'zel's feet to get 2 jobs done once. It worked but felt like washing a dog with a hose. Never again. Maybe because I don't dislike her. I'll report back with test results on Wyll.
>>545652313I don't use any food supplies containing meat. Good people turn bad because they eat meat.
>you just smash two unrelated classes - such as Druid and Monk Is this some kind of 'please lets keep talking during the weekend' bait? Druid/ Monk is certified meta build territory , what the hell are you even talking aboutfighter/druid doesnt even make sense both lorewise and for a non pants on head retarded build since it scales with dex/str and druid scales with WISI bet you play sorcadin and think its fun
>>545662645cute frog
>>545662169what's the build for druid and monk? is it a dip into spore druid for the necrotic damage on unarmed strikes? that's some nice bonus damage but it hardly matters since open hand monk is so op already. you can stun lock bosses to death with no multiclassing
>Druid/Monk is certified meta build territoryReading comprehension is lacking these days. The context of the sentence was immersive multiclassing, by the way - thinking about class identity, what might drive a Rogue to also be a Monk beyond both being DEX-based classes with Evasion, and ultimately forming a coherent character concept. Or, you could always follow the "meta" like an unoriginal copycat. After all, you don't sell 20 million copies with only players wanting to be different.
>>545641802ANNOUNCE YOUR NEXT GAME YOU BELGIAN FUCK!!!
>>545664890they might announce something during the GOTY 2025 if they consider releasing an early access next year
>>545641247It really is wild. If I don't find something new, I'll have something unexpected happen in combat or NPC interaction that'll make me laugh out loud. The game is endlessly entertaining.
>>545664890nobody cares about Sven, BG4 is where it's at
a rogue becoming a monk doesnt make fucking sense other than you wanting to push pure meta cheese, buildleta druid could be seen as 'nature's monk', rogues dont have spirituality or inner dialogues other that 'must steal'also get your thoughts straight>druid/monk is stupid but its also meta and unoriginal and I will use this post just to shit on other people for your personal entertainment>in BG3, items are much more build-defininggroundbreaking insight considering how Owlcat games fucking sucks when it comes to reactivity and actual role playing the character thru the players actions
>>545641247>How did they do it?sincerity
>>545665805>BG4 without larian's engine
>>545665538That's what I'm thinking too. I've been trawling their twitter feeds daily. It's embarrassing how excited I am, honestly.
POV: you are the source of Lae'zel's joy
>>545666293yeah I feel like their next games are guarenteed to be just as good as bg3 if not better, if swen is excited so am I lmao
>a rogue becoming a monk doesnt make fucking sense...except for the fact that they're thematically adjacent, as I already said. The archetypal party is composed of a Fighter, a Cleric, a Wizard, and a Rogue. Take a wild guess which one of these the Monk can more easily substitute. And again, this is about thinking what classes form a coherent concept, and which are at odds with each other. Whether the resulting multiclass is effective or not is irrelevant. But you're a speedreader, so you thought my mention of Jaheira being a Fighter/Druid was about the mechanical performance.>a druid could be seen as 'nature's monk'Incoherent drivel, just like the rest of your post.
>monk who forgo material possessions and attachments>rogue who is a thief who literally can't stop stealing shit>thematically adjacenti dunno about that one chief
>>545666746boo's POV>>545667554he says dumbshit for attention ignore him
you know what else is "thematically adjacent"? turning water into gold and trying to have a conversation with you that doesn't result in you ignoring everything just for the satisfaction of feeling superior an internet argumentwhatever man, enjoy your thief priest >>545666746am I Shadowheart?
>a Circle of the Spores Druid who views death and decay as part of the natural cycle>a Way of the Four Elements Monk who harnesses inner ki to bend elementsYou're right, this makes so much sense tied together! Make it a dolled up drow to really round up the "attention whore" character concept. I probably made up the idea of (Shadow) Monks being Rogue-adjacent or Rogue-equivalent for the sake of being a contrarian.
>>545667617no because lae'zel does not share and shart is a sharer
>>545668785>sharerit's spelled sharan irc
we both know i mean what i said
You were a better poster when you remained silent and just posted frogs.
and you when you didn't pretend to misunderstand and twist other people's words
>>545669279cute toad
very normal behaviour
>>545670281someone spent actual time of their lives just to craft this just to post it herelet that sink in>>545641362she can survive???
>>545669279FROG THREAT LEVEL RISING!
Limeleech flag-bearers, stand proud. I see you.
>>545670281dang
>>545671080>LimeleechPerhaps we owe "Shadowheart" an apology.
>>545671192Deliver your contumely. We will not falter.
gay sex results in fecal matter on the penis
>>545670281cute and wholesome
>>545673413are you a gay sex expert?
>>545671080>>545671560>egirl mintharaWE WERE ROBBED
>>545674020thats not manthara
>>545674181>mizora's VA voices a redhead in dos2>mizora's VA voices a redhead in bg3come on swen one more time
>>545670779>she can survive???Not him but why couldn't she? Killing the Worg that terrorizes her is step zero as he has more HP and bites harder than her dagger pokes. She has a Healing Potion but a crit can execute her right away. Once the beast is gone she switches to her bow and becomes much more useful.
>>545675042RNG hates my NPCs, apparently>>545674181I will now sign your contract
>Astarion's sweet brain may be a bit less wrinkled than the restWhat the fuck did the narrator mean by this?
>>545676667he's fucking retarded
:(
Is there any kind of synergy to be had with way of the shadow monk and cleric multiclassing on shadowheart if you stab the angel chick and get shar's spear and the whole dark justicier getup?
Forever dauntless.
>>545642548:(>>545675042It wasn't the worg who killed her but the goblin boss who can attack twice and has 16 AC, deaths in the gate fight always feels very RNG except Aradin and Wyll who they seem not to focus
POV: he told you to kneel
I actually quite like Act 3
>>545681447Anything for you...
>>545678996Of course! That's why turning her into a Shadow Monk for usually 6 levels is a popular choice for the Justiciar path. As a matter of fact I've seen more fiddling with the Cleric subclass' than alternatives for the Monk part. It's kind of given for obvious reasons.>>545680613>>545676208The charms of early game: weapons do the same damage as later but creatures are at their lowest HP. The boss is a PITA but he's obviously public enemy #1. What I don't get is why Wyll doesn't perform better. He usually engages a random goblin on the side and takes him 5 turn to kill it while performing ballerina moves.
>>545681809i like seeing all the approval/disapproval prompts from the most random shit gives u fun character insights
>>545681809Same here. It's my favorite Act.
>>545681447
Thoughts on hags?
>>545685302For.
Goddamn it. So I kept Volo in the camp throughout Act 2 as an in-house trader but never used him. What I forgot is that he's one of the relatively rare Scroll traders, meaning he must've had all kinds of useful shit for sell all along. Even now he has Cloudkill, Otiluke's Freezing Sphere and Otto's Irresistible Dance. The last two only unlocks 2 levels from now btw.
>>545680613>being hunted by fucking goblins from which they have to run and hide>will get completely slaughtered by the druids despite outnumbering them if they fight>whine and make empty threats>children completely out of control running thieves guilds and making deals with devils>at the same time on average more competent at surviving than the adults>only one of the three groups that needs the player to actively save them to surviveTieflings in Act 1 are so fucking pathetic it's wild.
Origin Wyll X Ascended Astarion X Daddy Halsin
>>545682025Nice. Thanks.
>>545586427silly drow witch!
>>545593427>>545605818>>545607854>>545646348>>545650513>>545662645>>545666746>>545669279>>545670281bestfrog
Does entering the shadow cursed lands from the underdark and the mountain pass make you enter in different locations? Is one better/worse than the other? I just entered from the mountain pass and met that drider Karniss guy and he led me straight to Moonrise but now I feel like I missed a ton of stuff
>>545692180check the last one again it's a certified khainyank post
>>545686884The only reason I don't kill them is because Zevlor is a bro and so is Dammon, otherwise I would slaughter the teeth-lings myself if it didn't completely ruin the story by not siding with them
Could Hexblade make logical sense for Durge?
>>545693541Yes, same map but at different parts. Nothing is stopping you from visiting both entry points though. For first and/or good playthroughs the Grymforge elevator is more recommended, as it's much closer to the another major hub of the Act. You'll know it when you see it. You didn't miss anything yet as you'll be asked to visit both either way for different reasons. Basically the same quests except different sides, but it also partially depends on who you sided with previously. In short there's no right or wrong answers here and you didn't lock yourself out of anything, so don't worry. One piece of advice: the Mausoleum and whatever comes after is strictly end-of-the-Act areas. You'll be warned when the point of no return comes but still. Do everything you want in the Act before visiting the Mausoleum. That's practically the only thing matters.
>>545662169>building around the concept of reflect damage, and many items actually support this.No there arent items to support this, its dogshit, its not effective.And shit that gives vulnerability like resonance stone is just broken. Funny how you didnt address the "OP and broken part". The game HAS NO CHALLENGE.You are making the build to finish a fight in 1 turn instead of 2, this is not path of exile where even if you have a highly optimal build you still need to play well and there are many challenges to overcome. BG3 never had any challenge even playing for the first time, and you are bad at video games if you dont see it.
>>545695364The hexblade fluff is kind of weird, so maybe? All it requires conceptually is you interacted with a spooky magic item at some point in time. It's not like you meaningfully interact with your patron unless you're playing the Wyll origin in any case, but it is largely implied you at least know what it is. Then again, I don't know about unique hexblade dialogues (which I assume are extremely few, if any)
Drink break. Back in 5.
>>545701572As far as I'm aware, I don't think there are any patron dialogues for warlocks except for Wyll interacting with Mizora. Hexblade mentions a weapon from the Shadowfell, but considering the Dark Urge was in league with the likes of Gortash prior to losing their memory, who knows what insane shit they got their hands on. Gortash stole the Crown of Karsus for god's sake.
Why is Jaheira kinda hot?
>>545702034As far as warlock patrons go, GOO could easily be some competing eldritch horror or even the emperor if you side with him, fiend and fey would have to be some off screen interaction (but considering Bhaal sends you a pet fiend such a contract isn't hard to imagine), and then there's hexblade which just means you interacted with a cursed item or shadow-being likely tied to the raven queen. The idea of being a warlock before the elective brain surgery is the hardest sell, but Bhaal doesn't seem picky about how his followers kill (and is likely in such a state where I don't even know if he can support conventional divine magic anyway).Personally I always saw the warlock more like a rogue in the sense they just do whatever works instead of having some specific refined technique, only in their case it's gathering magic from every sketchy source they can find. So for me, I'd say basically any of them fit
>>545701780>tattoobarf
Has anyone here ever played as a White human female lesbian who romances Shadowheart?
>>545685302reminds me of some actress but i cant put my finger on it.
>>545703346cate blanchett
>>545703346I dunno but human Mizora (>>545674181) always reminded me of Amber Heard.
>>545703320Probably every single coomer has at some point
>>545702716>tfw you realize it's actually tief-ling
>>545709419>fay run
i want to watch mizora get BLACKED by wyll's BBC
>>545686309weird he botched my eye and then ditched. haven't seen him since, but the eye is nice
will schizos ever get well?
>>545685302I think i got it
Storm sorcerer or draconic fire sorc?
>>545711590I know nothing about the class features of either, but fire seems like it has the least fun magic items
>>545711921storm sorcerer uses huge area spells that do lightning damage, and they can call water which makes the lightning to double damageit's stupid strong. probably the strongest class in the game
>>545712602All the more reason to pick it over draconic then. I like having a main character that doesn't require spells personally, so I never go more caster than warlock.I assume if you went draconic, you would pretty much have to pick up that feat to ignore enemy fire resistance (which incidentally means taking 1 level of wizard to expand your spell list would actually hurt a little). Other than having really hard hitting scorching rays and cool face scales I don't see much of a selling point.
why is the game so easy on tactician?
>>545713401i dunno i only play on explorer difficulty because i play games for the lore, the story and the escapism, not for "muh challenge"
>>545713461nobody i trying to take away your casual mode buddy, there are difficulty modes for a reason. Easy is boring and anticlimactic.
>>545713401I'd probably attribute it most to there being a lot of strong equipment
>>545713679i always play on easy for my first play through and then increase it for my second
>>545713717that's bs, equipment is boring mostly, other than their homebrew shit.The fights lack mechanical complexity, boss fights are poorly designed - they are hard at beginning, and easy in the end. No multiphase fights, no fights where phase 2 is harder than first. Difficulty comes from overwhelming number of enemies, which is easy to deal with.
>>545713981>other than their homebrew shit.So almost all of it? You'd only have 3 magic items per character other than generic +1 or +2 items if it was 5e RAW. Basically every homebrew mechanic they have makes the game easier. Often in a fun way, but all the same.
>>545714132Then they shouldve homebrewed the bosses to be harder.Raphael, ansur - top fights difficulty wise supposedly, but theyre easy and only have spectacle going for them.
>>545696486>No there arent items to support this, its dogshit, its not effective.This is plainly wrong across the board, but that's beyond the scope of this argument - or even this general, which is more likely to ask whether Fighter 10 / Cleric 2 is a good multiclass. You can even go the opposite route and just lower your AC and invite the AI to kill itself on your Armor of Agathys / Fire Shield Abjuration Wizard. That build already deals good reflect damage without any itemization and is functionally immortal (therefore boring), but it's an example of how weird you can get while still being effective. BG3 is a game that leans on that weirdness. Almost every item having an X-when-Y trigger or inflicting some kind of condition should make that evident.>Funny how you didnt address the "OP and broken part".I don't disagree with it - not everything has to be a confrontational reply where I dissect why you're 100% wrong. I reacted to the part that I think is relevant - that you don't NEED to abuse "OP" mechanics when your goal is simply to embody a character concept instead of a well-oiled machine. You know, roleplaying.>this is not path of exileThis is not an insightful statement for many reasons. I'll name a few. First, as stated above, the itemization in BG3 is much more interesting than in most similar RPGs. When was the last time you heard people talk about ITEMS, not CLASSES, in WotR? Second, the idea of finding an interesting item in BG3 and going, "Wait a minute..." is very reminiscent of Path of Exile, ironically. I suspect that respec is both unlimited and convenient for this reason. Third, Path of Exile is not a game devoid of automation - builds that revolve around Cast when Damage Taken, Righteous Fire, Spectres, Heralds, and so on, have all dominated various stages of the game's life and trivialized the hardest regular content (juiced t15+ maps) up until challenge bosses. The takeaway is that smart itemization allows build diversity. BG3 has that.
>>545703320Shadowheart is a half-elf. She easily has another century in her. What will become of your couple when your human is old and wrinkled thirty years from now?
>>545715868Shadowheart will simply move on to our daughter.
>>545715868Half elves only live like 50 years longer than humans on average iirc
>>545715104>You can even go the opposite route and just lower your AC and invite the AI to kill itself on your Armor of Agathys / Fire Shield Abjuration Wizard.Why wait turns and abuse retarded AI when you can kill them on your own turn with much better spells that do much more damage? Did you ask yourself that?In any good game with builds - builds that lag behind most are shit. Just slapping an enemy with a basic attack is about as effective and you dont even need to do any preparation.>You know, roleplaying.Most people dont have fun roleplaying a retard.The game already makes me micromanage my experience by handicapping myself and trying to be "fair" to enemies. No prebuffing, no presummoning minions, initiate with the whole party through dialogue rather than ambushing etc...>When was the last time you heard people talk about ITEMS, not CLASSES, in WotR?Sounds like itis boring too. But in ARPGs people talk about items all the time, whole builds are done around items.> Third, Path of Exile is not a game devoid of automation - builds that revolve around Cast when Damage Taken, Righteous Fire, Spectres, Heralds, and so on, have all dominated various stages of the game's life and trivialized the hardest regular content (juiced t15+ maps) up until challenge bosses. The takeaway is that smart itemization allows build diversity. BG3 has that.bg3 does not have even 1% of the build variety bg3 has or interesting ways item mechanics interact.There basically is just reverberation and radiant orbs, that's it. And you can do it on any character, but obviously best on spirit guardians. This doesnt require much thinking, there is no alternative or anything equivalent to this. And Act 1 items shouldnt be the best items the whole game as well as more interesting.They needed like 10 different mechanics that could interact in interesting way like this.But this is OP because enemy does not have access to this mechanic, nor has any way to deal with it.
>>545716230>bg3 does not have even 1% of the build variety bg3 has*poe has. And im not even playing it.
>>545715868Tyr may grant me longer life for being his loyal Paladin. Potions, magic, all sorts of options. Couples rarely die on the same day anyways. Marital bliss until then.
>>545716619Ancients paladins have a class feature that makes them immortal. Otherwise you're probably going to have to look outside god favors
>it's a dream guardian shows up in her underwear out of nowhere episode
>>545717394I might have sided with the emperor if he didn't try to fuck me
>>545716230>Why wait turns and abuse retarded AI...because it's about build diversity and player expression, not a race to the highest DPR, and being the coolest, most badass solo character who effortlessly one-turns Raphael. I thought the context was already obvious, and it's tiresome having to always repeat the parameters of the discussion. If you want to do a weird reflect build, you can do that. If you want to be a Bard who insults and confuses enemies to death, you can do that. If you want to recreate your favorite character from another medium, who might have a weird, unoptimized multiclass, you can do that. Jaheira can be a Fighter/Druid if you have BG2 nostalgia, even if it's far from optimal.>bg3 does not have even 1% of the build variety [PoE] hasNo shit. The point of the comparison is not to claim that a story-driven RPG like BG3 is similar in complexity to an autistic spreadsheet simulator like PoE, whose surface appeal is precisely that near-infinite build diversity. They're different games that scratch different itches. All I’m saying is that you can have both the fun of roleplaying in BG3 and experimenting with character concepts and weird builds like in PoE. I have sunk hundreds of hours in both, and I can speak from experience. And you don't need to abuse mechanics like Reverberation if that's boring.
>>545717834Actually, the game is whatever the player wants it to be. It’s a toy. It’s meant to be enjoyed. I’m sorry your crippling autism prevents you from understanding that.
>>545718035So the game is perfect and if i think its boring then its my fault? Or maybe devs shouldve done better job balancing and implementing interesting mechanics, made bosses more interesting with better mechanics and more challenge?Bosses in BG3 suck - most of them is one big circular area , a boss with like 3 abilities and a bunch of mobs repeating the same action. Theyre difficult only at the beginning until you get rid of trashmobs after which the boss stands like a deer in headlights not doing anything.
>>545718035>Actually, the game is whatever the player wants it to be.That was my point all along, actually. Hopefully, you can learn to read one day, instead of reflexively disagreeing because you hate me. You can be as weird as you want. You can be a number-crunching autist who gets hard when he one-turns Raphael. I don't really care, as long as you're not cheating. My first post on the topic merely addresses two misconceptions - that multiclassing is always non-immersive, and that you NEED to abuse mechanics to succeed in BG3. You don't, because it's an easy game, where player expression is encouraged.
>>545693758chk. I have been deceived!
>>545719067>I don’t really care, as longAgain, it’s a game. It’s whatever the player wants it to be. It can be laced with as many cheats and as “unimmersive” as the player wants. I’m sorry your crippling autism prevents you from accepting that.
>>545719672>Again, it’s a game. It’s whatever the player wants it to beNo it cant be whatever player wants it to be, it is what designers made it. They made it broken and easy and poorly balanced it. Its not my job to balance it for designers and handicap myself - that's not fun. It's the game designer's job to challenge the players and balance it.For example throwing healing potions is stupid, the mechanic shouldnt really exist as it does, it makes no sense.
>>545719672Go cheat in your game if that's "fun" to you, what do I care? It's your self-respect (or lack thereof) and therefore your problem. But when you come to a place where there is presumably an expectation of respecting the rules, and start acting like an unruly brat who doesn't care about them, then you make it everyone's problem. See, it's not about autism - it's about respect.
>>545720815that dumbass aint me, my replies are these:>>545720273>>545718454>>545716230
>>545716417I play it, and you're right. however, those faggots are turbo nerf-happy, so you have to play standard and use unnerfed legacy gear for certain builds to even kill anything. also, hinekora, death's fury unnerfed for two years and counting because lolwhatisbalance
>>545640032I keep hearing this but I just finished game with her and she was loyal to me. Maybe im just a better man for her.
>>545722536I played original POE, completed challenges got some bat wings. Back then hardest challenge was Shaper, and my more experienced friends didnt bother fighting him, we just bought a kill for challenge, so i didnt bother trying to fight him either.I hated that i needed to grind to just try the boss.Anyway, POE2 feels like is going to be more my jam, I like slower pace and using multiple skills.
>>545722789yeah shaper was fucking hard until I made an RF jugg (shit was a four-button build) and beat his ass, and uber elder after. aul was rough though. bunch of their newer bosses are either pushovers, glitched as shit (sirus) or overtuned as hell. don't make em like they used to. hope you like poo2 though. I played opening weekend and fucking hated it
Just met Isobel in the game and holy fuck I've never wanted to bang someone more in my life
>>545723726she's taken sorry
>>545724076yeah, by my 5.5 inch sorcerer cock
>>545724298holy based
>>545723726She and Aylin take Shadowheart aside for some private, sweaty lessons on Selunite practices on the way to the city.
>>545723726If killing Aylin somehow made it possible, I would every run
Playing WOTR now. I think Larian's casting director is the only thing keeping them in business, because that's the only missing ingredient. Literally everything else blows BG3 back to tranny town. Makes one wonder what Larian spent all that time and money on.
tranny town population: (YOU)
bg3 time
How much goodberry could the archdruid Halsin produce in a day?
>>545726854>>545727098
Ever notice how bait comes in waves, even when it's over different topics?
>>545726983>73 Mpbs>2025Lmao this faggot went to the third world and then time traveled backwards
>>545727302
what irl person is isobel reminding me of?
>>545726854>>545727098>>545727145https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uITaghKWMMM
>>545727468sasha grey
>>545729976lmao maybe. i can see itshe reminds me of someone, but i can't put my finger on who. she does look a bit like sasha
because looting in the game is completely and utterly a waste of time, i find myself not giving a shit about exploring everywhere on the map since i know it's just gonna be a waste of timeonly obvious chests and bosses have any loot worth looting
>>545730869Yeah its sad. Elden Ring had a similar problem especially dlc. Big map + useless shit strewn across an empty area. BG3 isnt empty but still.
is this a nikado reference?
>>545731025i just got to reithwin town and this place looks huge. but i'm not gonna waste any time there outside of quests. no point exploring somewhere that big for some potions and arrows i'll never use
you're supposed to enjoy the world not just speed run between loot
>>545731045that's how empty and stretched astarion felt once godey was done with him
>>545731186the world is boring though. the game is starting to get stale. i think i just need to take a week off
holy reactivity and also astarion dumb
>>545720273>>545720815>>545720954Still not beating the crippled by autism allegations.
>>545731746Still not beating resident schizo allegation. This game has serious flaws both gameplay and story/writing wise. Its not just "whatever you want to be" or "its just autism" excuse. The game's act 3 is both unfinised and undercooked and bosses suck ass.
Sylvanus grant us strenght.
>>545720815You care enough to flood the general with lectures on the topic. I’m sorry your crippling autism prevents you from accepting that fact.
>I’m sorry your crippling autismThis is the third time in as many posts you've said this, speaking of flooding.
>>545731909There is no “resident schizo” allegation. That sorry title belongs to you, I fear.
>>545624825yeesh
I am armed with a .577 Nitro Express elephant gun and will be shooting Shadowheart in the face shortly
>>545545369Druids are cool and classic.
>>545710056He's scripted to leave after the surgery. Since there was no way I let a famed charlatan anywhere near my eyes I just never told him I'm ready for the procedure so stood with us until the end of the Act 2. Having a scroll-selling camp trader could be extremely useful, my only regret is not using his capabilities more.>>545717394>Dream Visitor looked delicious--nipples protruding--in her blue dress before my Tav. Very very distracting.>>545730869What about the tons of written documents that provide lore and entertainment?
If I want to have the easiest and fastest time completing honour mode what race/class should I play and with what team comp?Im also open to other cheeses like ive heard you can just play with 3 characters and leave the 4th at camp for revives.
Apparently you can keep Wyll human when recruiting Karlach if you just keep him dead for act 1. Is there any actual reason to?
Smites should be a slot separate from spells. As it is any paladin that actually casts spells is a retard.
>>545741368First time hearing this but the theory here is to trick Mizora into thinking Karlach is gone for good - in which case she doesn't punish Wyll with the horns for disobeying, as a matter of fact you get a nice reward from your patron - then using the resurrection mechanics to remove her Dead condition. Since I've never killed Karlach I can't tell if it's possible to preserve her intact body as I only saw the "let's pose with her severed head" pics from that path. If there's a way to keep her head on her shoulders after the killing blow just store her body in your camp chest, then technically you should be able to use the Resurrect scroll (or Withers) anytime to get her back to life. I'm not sure about this "dead for act 1" criteria, unless Larian added further checks I don't see why you couldn't give her life back once Mizora paid a visit and Wyll's quest got updated.The only question is how badly a such maneuver robs you from Karlach content. I wouldn't expect a damn thing to be honest. It's safe to assume her companion quests will be finished before it started, the rest is all about having checks in the script. Even if you can talk to her normally, enjoy her banter on the road or even use her unique dialogue options who knows if she won't bug something out for good? It's not worth the risk imho.
>>545741102What's the point of Honor Mode if you're just going to be dishonorable?
>>545742980The "honour" of honour mode is being unable to use the most OP thing you as a player can do and that is savescumming. Besides honour mode also makes a ton of minor adjustments strictly to screw you as a player alongside every boss having a gotcha moment.So outside of backing up your save I dont see any issues with using any and all possible advantage you can get in game for use in the cock and ball torture mode for those sweet gold dice.
I regret not killing the moon cleric.
I'm going to play origin karlach and bang mizora
Do you use gold exploits in honor mode?
>>545749674Maybe if you consider pick pocketing a gold exploit
Does Frog make sense as a Oath of the Crown Paladin? Already ran her as a Eldritch Knight in my last run so I want to try something new.
>>545751245if she follow Vlaakith yes.
how do you feel about goodberry pie
>>545751245>Lae'zel>PaladinVengeance on Vlaakith may get a pass but generally speaking, Lae'zel just doesn't give a shit about the weak / needy.
>>545751245I think I remember a githyanki anti-paladin or two in BG2, so why not
Regarding the Emperor So the Emperor is the first "person" to find the prism ok that i understand, but is he the one we see in the opening? the one who infected Tav and Lae'zel with the tadpole or is it unrelated?
Why does Warlock have so many concentrations spells? 90% of them don't even seem worth it given your limited spell slots.
>>545754074If you're playing the Dark Urge I think at least technically he wouldn't be. No idea otherwise
>>545754523Oh yeah i forgot about Dark urge.it's probably not him then.
>>545754074It's contested and the game never provides a full answer.Some dialogue points towards the squid in the goblin temple, but its armor doesn't fit the one in the cinematic.You can also never up front ask the Emperor about it, even though that seems a reasonable question at any point during Act 3 when you talk to the Emperor.
>>545754156Outside of hex, darkness, hunger of hadar, hypnotic pattern, and a couple patron exclusive ones I don't think any of the warlock concentration spells are really worth it.
>>545755967I like Hold person when i don't have Gale.
>Dwarven Splintmail looks nothing like it's icon>but using dye recolors even the metal partsThat +2 CON is an important step in Operation Detard Froggy. We'll make it work without eating ze bugs.
>>545756110The guaranteed crit is nice, but costing an entire turn just to maybe disable one character seems unproductive to me since the warlock can attack as often as the fighter. That's why I only really bother with group ones like hypnotic pattern (or fear, but I feel like there's less conditions protecting against the former) for the rare occasion where stuff really lines up well
>>545732659we've been arguing with "him" for literal years now, ignoring him is for the best. you'd think the namefag would be enough already, but here we are>>545760984I think I'm gonna cast a light over the shadows
>>545727302>>545727353If you can download the game while you sleep, then your connection is good enough.
not beating the hireling allegations
>Proud. Regal, even. Not the armor.>>545754156This gives the value of their spells. I posted about this like two threads ago: if my Warlock casts then it's something that can turn the tide of the battle. Those long duration Concentration spells give you the most bang for your buck with your limited slots. A strong non-Concentration DD spell could also be just as useful if it removes lots of enemies at once but that's not the norm. So what you're looking for is impact, and those AoE Concentration spells can often pay their dividends for 10 turns.>>545756110This is the other thing I mentioned before: the alternative use of a Warlock is when I pair it with a half-caster to try to replicate the effect of a a full-value Arcane Caster (Gale) who's not in my party. E.g. it's a great way to ensure you always have Counterspell on you. And when you have Gale and your Warlock with some overlapping spells it allows you greater flexibility in terms of juggling with spell slots and party needs.
>>545764795dwemer looking ahh color scheme
>>545764795even the ugly adamantine armor would look better
>>545762498shes the real non-character
>>545764795cute frog
M I L F Man I Love Frogs
>>545765968Minthara would know whether she wants to kill her mother (she does).
Thoughts?
>>545773002sexlach
>>545773002gross cover that body up
Not going to lie, Lae'zel's starting armor is so sexo I can't help just staring at her exposed frog butt in every fight.
>>545773908POV: everyone just heard what you said alout
This Splintmail is ridiculously shiny. Believe it or not this is Black and Furnace Red. I'll settle with this one as it gives the best shading by far. Tricolor so I can use silver and golden gauntlets with it and the black goes well with Lae'zel face paint. The raw metal was too bright with the alternatives.>>545765123Yep, though my remark was about how purple was associated with the nobility and royalty in the Medieval times. There is a Purple Dye but that retains the natural metal shining, while this Deep Lilac is offensively vibrant and has this orange copper hue. Whatever I dye I always give this one a shot for the lulz.>>545765405The Heavy one? I only have the Medium but it sees little use. It just doesn't fit anybody in terms of aesthetic.
Lae’zel is so retarded looking. Githyanki are such a shit race
>>545773002Karlach would smack your head for suggesting she would dress like Mizora, or wear high heels. Once again, modders prove tasteless.
Karlach with high heels would just trip every 5 steps.Now Wyll....
>>545774954>she would not wear high heelsyou sure about that? I beg to differ. she would crush balls under her heels
>>545774954karl wouldn't give a shit
>>545773908Frog doesn't have an ass. Put that armor on Shart if you want to see some real meat.
>>545776048>when you mention halsin to shart & frog
>>545525514>>545526463>every time karlach says"Ack"
>>545777338looks like they're about to churn up a fresh batch of goodberry pie
>>545777338my tummy is rumbling already
>>545777450toadcel seething
>>545742627>The only question is how badly a such maneuver robs you from Karlach contentI just finished her story quest in act 2 with dammon and was like "that's it?"unless there's more that happens later that was very anti-climactic
>>545776101The Karlach who could "eat a giant badger" for dinner? The Karlach whom I saw throw a goblin at another, killing both and laughing like a hyena about it? The Karlach who has a stuffed bear in her tent? The Karlach who would be your best drinking buddy and drink you under the table? No, I don't think that person would wear high heels for your amusement.
why did it have to be this way, why couldn't you be satisfied with just meShaddy...
i masturbated to minthara at 3am last night
>>545779576>karl can you wear high heels & a slutty dress plz? >sure soldier watch me shove this heel up that goblin's ass lolsee? canon
>>545779468Her contributions are not restricted to her quest. Without spoiling anything she's directly involved with a major character in Act 3. Take her to the second half of the Moonrise Assault and you'll see that, especially if you talk to her once you're finished there. Then of course she comments on every major event if you speak to her after they concluded, and probably the sames goes for certain locations upon visiting them. She's from Baldur's Gate so she's far from finished regardless of her quest.
>>545779883Being horny for a drow is better than being horny for a book.
post the absolute hottest minthara you've got
>>545783914any of his shit
>>545784348i can't decide if minthara looks like a tranny or is hot as fuck
Marcus beat Isobel so hard she had brusises all over her face for the rest of the game.That was funny.
>>545784348ick just ick
>>545785363i sided with isobel because she was hot. does that make me a simp? who cares
>>545785257>if minthara looks like a tranny or is hot as fucki think you like trannies
>>545785482There's a Stone Lord goon at the beach calls you a cuck if you side with the Guild in act 3. I figured it's because the Guild representative is a halfling girl but joke's on him since I'm actually a simp for Nine-fingers.
>>545785868He calls you a cuck regardless of who you side with lol
>>545785363Do you have a screenshot? This indeed sounds funny. God, I can almost see her yapping about her love with a beat up face while standing in the shadow of her XL sized girlfriend.
>>545785363same happened to me, healing her fixed it.
https://youtu.be/dC7ZbuaIiWo?si=VOQwey76AA8hp_jq
>>545786548
>>545787420why are you a gooner
Kagha, please stop kowtowing to those midgets...
>>545787845I never gooned once in my life.i just like big titties in my videogames....
>>545787420holy milkers
>>545788319whenever I see how pathetic schizos like the namefag or iamyourdad can be, I lowkey am thankful that john tried new things with his characters and their romances
mods disable achievements? fucking faggots
everyone keeps trying to bang me, guy and girl. fuck off, i'm just trying to get rid of the parasite and stop the absolutei don't want romance unless it's with minthara or the dream guardian
>>545789669i don't give a shit about muh acheivements anyway
>>545789669have you tried not cheating
>>545789669there are mods that fix that
>>545783914>>545785257Her final model looks the most feminine imho. Her features are strong but you can tell she's a woman. Early Access Minthara was too androgynous in every alteration.>>545787420Hilarious, thanks! Unintended comedy that surely strips her interactions of every ounce of dramatic effect but I'll have to try this myself!
>>545789801i do>>545789868yesbut its funnier with mods>>545789898do you know what they are called`?
>>545789973>Her final model looks the most feminine
>>545790283you keep posting this but they don't look anything alike
>>545790369because everything a sharter post about minthara has a lie in it
>>545790369It's over
>>545790145https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/668?tab=descriptionlook up any achievement enabler on the nexus
>>545789669My run is bugged i keep getting them despite using mods>>545790283She just looks like a German woman desu.
>>545790503>sharter Im sorry Toadcel but your other waifu is ugly
I don't know why I find their dynamic so charming. Maybe because they almost seem too naive for this world.
>>545790948did they make it to baldur's gate or did they get fucked in act 2?
>>545790948Bex sex.Yes they're very cute.Most Tiefling women are quite charming.
>>545790948There was a anon who was going to play as them and I thought that was cute.>>545791198Yeah they make it, but they stay at Rivington.
I'm gonna play bg3 with friends soon and i wanted to ask, how's Dark urge in coop? can you fuck with your mates like you could in divinity with Lohse's demon?
wrong response *dies*
>>545790948Danis got involved in the "defend the portal" fight somehow and died in my playthrough so Bex is gonna need a shoulder to cry on if you get what i mean
>>545788878they look so happy with each othertruly soulmates... I wish things could be different, but it's just not meant to beoh... Shaddy...
>>545790948This was a WTF moment though. Probably leftover stuff from an earlier quest ending as it didn't make too much sense. Of course he came back to his wife with us but I had no way of knowing it back then.>>545791318Recreating obscure (or minor) NPCs to play with is generally an excellent idea for people who's playing this game since EA. You have to put a little effort into it but it spices everything up!
Looks like Voss and Baretha fell for it this time
>>545790948It's because they're just regular, innocent people, caught in a bad situation. You can relate to them. I'll never complete an evil playthrough because I'd feel bad about killing Bex.
>>545798775Just Bex? Not her husband?
>>545799091Bex is the one who's too pure for the world. She wants to open a bakery and sell almond cakes.
>is this istik serious?
It feels so weird leaving valuable equipment on companions sitting in the camp. OTOH I'm expecting more frequent switches in Act 3 and arming two separate teams for the Assault took more time than I originally planned. So I might as well get the most out of it.
Raphael is such a badass. I wish I was like him in real life
Rude.
Mizora, Kagha, and
>>545803381Araj, the better female drow
I dislike most of the voice acting in BG3, it's too tumblrish if you know what I mean.
>>545790283Another role for Tom Holland.
>>545789973lmao
>>545804970You mean you're a contrarian faggot with four chins, yeah.
>https://youtu.be/uutT2pMEPqk?si=VdfU2r7FPMK6_DjwI'm gonna tell you how it's gonna get doneI'm just a girl that's only chewing for funYou spit it out when all the flavor has goneWrap him round your finger like you're playing with gum
>>545804970>it's too tumblrish if you know what I mean.other than some of Karlach's lines i really don't know what you mean, can you give some examples?
I got the mod that gave karlach more abs
>Sh-shadowheart? Shaddy?>Wh-why do you taste like goodberry um.. "down there"
>>545806654It's not just the way the dialogue is written but the way the actors deliver the lines, the inflection in their voices. It sounds too gay and modern.
>>545807492>no examples given
>>545803381My cock
>>545807492what kind of inflection is "tumblrish"explain in detail
>>545807539You're so reddit tumblr discord right now
>>545807539>>545808801if you know you know
>>545809152You don't know.
thoughts on sloplach?
>>545811294Can't say the scars improve her, but they also look weirdly clean at the same time
>>545811294Should have been cut to give Wyll a chance at being a real companion
>kill the ogres>we're standing there covered in grease, acid, blood and astarion is on deaths door>this is when the frog decides to tell me how much she wants to taste my sweat infront of the rest of the teamI love this woman.
>>545812443If I had to pick between the two, I'd pick Karlach
The gauntlet of shar isn't fun at all. Hate every single second of this bullshit
>>545812797The trial of "fuck you, you can't jump here without dying" annoys me, but the rest of them are just easy to breeze through
>>545812443wyll had two opportunities to be popular and failed, he's better off forgotten
>>545812750Wyll is the only Black character of note in the entire game. Karlach is just another white girl but red. The only other men are Astarion and Gale, one gay and the other basically gay. Wyll is the choice that gives the game some balance. Karlach gives it estrogen.
>>545814132pure schizobabble
>>545814132Don't care, Wyll is boring, and not even in some grounded human way.
>>545814338He has an interesting story that isn't given time to develop, which would have changed if uninteresting characters like Karlach were reduced and their resources redirected to a more positive outcome which is what the post was about. Wyll isn't given a chance, I'm talking about giving him one.
all resources spent on wyll should've gone towards astarion sex scenes
>>545814741this is literally what happened
>>545814338Honestly Wyll's story is pretty good and is connected to multiple parts of the story, but he weirdly has ZERO agency. He's always asking you what he should do. That's why he honestly makes for a better player character than a companion.
>>545814547>>545814929>Honestly Wyll's story is pretty good>He has an interesting story I feel like we didn't play the same game
>>545814929They did with him what they should have done with every origin, which is give him something significant to do every act. The fact that he's still uninteresting after all that when other characters didn't get that much attention is what I find most damning. They should have just not bothered with the character and kept the Mizora parts for Warlock PCs
>>545815046More so that the events he has to deal with are interesting on paper, but how they play out for him as a companion are a let down. Especially since they neutered him from Early Access with a total re-write, so he's got a complete cardboard personality. As a player character, having to save your dad (who is the Duke) from an underwater prison while also making the choice to break your Warlock pact or not is a fun dilemma. It's just a shame that an otherwise boring character is the one that gets that story.
>shadowbaby hours
>>545814881I still see wyll in my game though
Does the concept of a rogue with a finesse longsword (ie Phalar Aluve) doing GWM sneak attacks work in Honour Mode, or does it fall behind pretty hard? I remember it was something I played around with ages ago and it seemed to perform well in Act 1.
>>545815046I played it as a high IQ person capable of abstract thought and what-if thinking. You played it as an "anon". That's the difference.
So how if the Dark Urge rejects Bhaal and gets revived with Withers, would future children even be Bhaalspawn, or has all that divine element been extracted from the ordeal?
>arcane archer + rogue dip>dual wield hand crossbow>do a lot of damage and attack alotNeat>all my arcane shots now do shit damage and i might as well autoErrr
I just found out you can equip a salami as a club.
>>545817281you know this scene with lae'zel? you can replace it with a salami
>>545817281I quickly figured out that when I tried to get them to stack in my inventory. I always have people eat those first when resting because of all the space it takes up for retarded OCD reasons
>>545817097
>>545773908
gortash broke the pact cause i found iron thronedo i just kill him now? by...going back to the castle? im kind confused
>>545817281Shadowheart steals all the salami and courgettes from camp supplies
>>545818432yes
>>545818450That fat bitch
>>545811294Hottest video game character since...Shadowheart
>>545818646she ain't eating them...with her mouth anyway.
>>545817281>>545817494Whenever you see a weapon in a cutscene that can be replaced with it. The best part? It's dippable. So you can smack foes to death with a burning salami you just lit with a candle.>>545817527Forget about stacking. It shows damage, weapon action and tags when you hover on it to check Camp Supplies value. Even the description mentions it's hardness! How do people miss these?>>545812931Especially that not even Devil's Sight can pierce it. Which is a little baffling. Apparently there were ways to cheese it but I solved it with the good old STALKER method. Except I used coins instead of screws here.
>>545820887the ugliest hag in the forgotten realms
>>545820887Bitch ate all the salami
I really want to do a dual wield build, as it's one of the things I really haven't touched in BG3. Anyone have any recommendations? I figure that Thief for the extra bonus action and Two Weapon fighting style are going to be mandatory here, but not sure what else to aim for. Maybe Gloomstalker? Champion?
I just wanted to say that I love my wife.
>finally get the everburn blade on the nautiloid>took too many turns, need 1 more turn to reach the transponder>have to reload and either try again or give upFUCKI know the sword isn't even that good but it's so painful having to let go
>>545821465If you're doing it in melee, I like barb/rogue. If you're doing it with hand crossbows, I like rogue/(gloomstalker)ranger. In theory either could put 3 levels of champion fighter in the end and benefit from it, but I think that's overkill at least for the rogue/ranger. Or you could just so fighter instead of ranger or barbarian in the first place really
>>545821635If you really want it, just have Shart prepare the command spell to force it to drop the weapon and reload if her two attempts don't work. It should only take a couple rounds of that fight to know if it's possible each time.
>>545822029now I feel dumb for not knowing you could do thatI assumed shart needed to level up first to use command
>>545821635just drop the difficulty down to explorer for the battle.
>>545820887Kisses for the shadowfeet
sexual/orgasm headaches are a thing. has to do with blood pressure changes in your head during sex, some people are prone to really bad headaches right as orgasm happensi was jerking off to shadowheart and i got an orgasm headache and now i've been dealing wit a migraine all night
>>545821748I was planning on melee. Which barb subclass do you think would pair well? Berserker?
>>545824730If you're dual wielding I don't think berserker offers that much. The ones that improve your rage are probably the best
>>545814741Amazing pic.
does the order of things matter in act 3i wanna go to the foundry cause i think i remember seeing there being some good loot there
>>545798892Such a bright-eyed frog.
>>545525514Her whispered "don't be shy" when sneaking always makes me smile.
>>545825765The only thing that really matters is you might miss some interactions. The only real burnt bridge is if you piss of Gort before rescuing the gnomes iirc
>>545825765only thing that should matter as far as the order of things are how/when you deal with Gortash and Orin. Otherwise if you leave them alone you can do Act 3 in any order and should be fine. Iron Throne/Gondian stuff will affect Gortash but that's a pretty deliberate choice that they telegraph to you clearly that Gortash will consider it a betrayal.
>>545536504King.
>>545826120>>545826092ah ok cooli aleady fucked the the pack with gortash anyway
Respect transfolk
no way no way, i almost ALMOST gave up and went to look up where this little shit went
>>545827616i fucking hate mol and hate how they keep forcing her in the game to be some main character. you just know she's the self-insert of some ugly dyke programmer at larian
>>545829334Eh, she gives a ring I usually have someone use for the entire game and otherwise doesn't really change any important outcomes. Personally, I think the thieves guild is going to eat her alive.
>investigate murder>keep running into ones already killed>finally remember i can use SPeak to Dead after the 3rd oneWHYDONTIEVERREMEMBERTHESETHINGS
>>545829932Just leave the SwD amulet in your inventory in plain sight. As for Speak with Animals and maybe Detect Thoughts create a routine of swallowing a potion of each after every Long Rest.
>>545779576see >>545775708
>>545833756Patty's smile is so cute
>thought the tadpole awakening was tied to the amount of times brainwashing and number of long rests>wiki says it's about reaching the Goblin Camp bridgeLearn something new
am i playing paladin wrongim trying to keep mithera a pally but she's so bad whether shes one handing or two handing with gwm, these smites are shit
hey Lae'zel want to join the exclusive PEN 15 club all I gotta do is tattoo it on your hand
Just finishing romancing Shadowheart as a Selunite Cleric. Romance was pretty good, but I liked Karlach better. What do you guys recommend as good PCs to romance Lae'zel and Minthara in subsequent playthroughs?
>>545814132Why did you capitalize ‘black’ but leave ‘white’ lower case? Weird Also race and sexual preference have nothing to do with anything. Wyll is boring because he has a boring personality. >that gives the game some balance??? What does this even mean? Because if it means what I think it means, I’m sorry to tell you, but Wyll is zesty. He makes bizarre comments about other men than no straight man would say. Gale is easily the only “straight” male companion, but he was sadly tainted by playersexual writing like all the rest. He comes onto the player but otherwise expresses 0 interest in men. And even so, Gale doesn’t make any sense as a gay man. Wyll does, unfortunately. He wears his little crop top in camp, is estranged from his father, calls Halsin “hunk,” and defends Astarion as a predator on grounds of his looks. And somehow he still manages to be aggressively boring, so boring that the majority of players ignore him. He’s an awful character.
>>545836217I think playing something very mundane like a human fighter is good for Lae'zel. Her whole romance is a fish out of water story where you essentially coax/teach her to be more sympathetic and let her guard down. Minthara is pretty good if you're Dark Urge who doesn't want to resist the urge.
>>545836341Those are both good ideas, thank you. I have a question about the "embrace the dark urge" ending with Minthara. If I take control of the Nether brain for Bhaal, would I still have a healthy relationship with Minthara as Bhaal's chosen in the epilogue? I don't like the idea of becoming a mindless murderer who could hurt my companions. Being evil and murdering people is fine, but I would feel bad if I hurt Minthara or people my PC liked. I know that's kind of silly, but I'd rather be Lawful Evil than Chaotic murderhobo.
>>545838380Cringe
>>545820887You're treading on very thin ice.
Yeah I guess it makes sense embracing the urge you would kill everyone. I'll probably do a run for the achievement and then just reload and resist.
>>545820487>Especially that not even Devil's Sight can pierce it. Which is a little baffling.It's not really baffling narratively. The darkness is not mere magical obscuration, but Shar's own test of faith. It would be cheap, and it should be flagged as a bug if Devil's Sight could bypass it.
>>545836293"For many people, Black reflects a shared sense of identity and community. White carries a different set of meanings; capitalizing the word in this context risks following the lead of white supremacists."As for balance, it means what it says, balancing out the sameness of the party with something new. Wyll could have offered something unique and fresh to the story if he hadn't been sidelined to develop characters we've seen a hundred times before, including in Larian's other games. The game desperately needed something to break up the monotony instead of letting a great character concept go to waste because Swen "Leopold" Vincke doesn't know how to write.
>>545834756Who the frog is "mithera"?
>>545814132>>545841189You lost
>>545841189Either capitalize them all, or none. Otherwise you’re giving preference to one race over another which is racism. And since by balance you mean race, all I can say is that I find that disappointing. He’s a terrible character. He’s the only companion that lacks a spark of personality. He doesn’t suck because “white characters” hogged the spotlight, or the writing budget was racially unfair, he sucks because he speaks and acts without emotion. Meanwhile, minor characters like Aradin are full of personality. There is no excuse. He was poorly written, and that’s that.
i'm going to play the game nowwwww
>>545843973Based gamer
>come up with a fun tactic for the turrets in the Selunite tower in the Underdark- throw a Sussur flower, then walk up, beat it senseless, and pick the flower back up>as soon as you pick the flower back up, the turrets magically return to full health and reactivateWhat a letdown
>>545841814>Either capitalize them all, or none. Otherwise you’re giving preference to one race over another which is racism. Not that anon. Often, this has more to do with convention - some style guides recommend capitalizing White for consistency, while others don't - than with one's conscious preference for signaling racism (or lack thereof). Compare this to the default pronoun for a person of unspecified gender. If you go back a few decades, that would have been "he." Nowadays, it has been largely replaced by the singular "they" in everyday language, including by those who would balk at signaling inclusivity. "If anyone calls, tell them..." not "him.">There is no excuse.Well, there's his skin color for starters. Black characters (in video games or otherwise) tend to be either offensively bland or one of the safe stereotypes, like the noble do-gooder. Hilariously, the non-character ends up being both. He's a would-be folk hero who lacks even the agency to decide whether to save his daddy. This is not a Larian-only issue, by the way - though it is amplified and more apparent when you compare a non-character with fully realized Origins like Lae'zel, Shadowheart, Karlach, or Astarion.
>>545844395It's not a Selûnite tower.
i failed the 20 roll ://
been in act 3 for like 20+ hours now and feels like i still have a million things i havent done>deal with orin and gortash obviously>find minsc after the bank encounter>deal with vampire elder guy>dig around the library with gale>next step in the hag survivor quest>a fucking dragon??>shart's family>blow up the foundry>get the hammer from ralphael>huge parts of the map unexplored>nobody has mentioned the damn egg since rivingtonand like 10 other things i didnt think of while sitting here naked post fap
>>545847036I don't know man. I just do the ones that unlock Minsc first and then focus on doing shit by whatever has the gear I want first
>>545847036Act 3 has way too much shit and they really could have left a lot on the cutting room floor, and I don't think players would have complained that there's not enough to do. I think that's why Act 2 is most people's favorite. Very focused and streamlined and has a satisfying climax.
>>545841297lmao based
>>545816952You get a letter from Sarevok in the epilogue where he says your kids will eventually embrace Bhaal even though you failed him
>>545847179im assuming youre on 20000th play thorugh or something. im on my first one andt rying to see as much as possible>>545847180i am taking it slow and not playing multiple hours daily. but its surprising how much stuff there is.
>>545847334Saravok being alive requires actually doing a ritual for them, so I don't know if I would count that. Or if he'd even fucking know. Jaheira also says some warning, but I don't think she'd be particularly informed either.
>>545847567Yeah there's even stuff I know is in Act 3 that you didn't even mention. Honestly it might be better to do whatever you're interested in and save other stuff for another playthrough.
>>545812649>forgot i let her carry a barrel of smokepowder>she uses it during our midnight wrestlingsasuga froggy
>>545847036And yet, you still have players complain about the lack of an Upper City.
>>545847630I killed Sarevok and still got the letter, I guess Bhaal resurrected him.
>>545812649This shit happened on my first playthrough during the hag fightIt was ridiculous. I turned her down since I, like most plebs, came into the game for Shaart and while I eventually grew to like Laezels character alot, randomly declaring her lust in the hag's lair was downright lunacy
>>545824572Id simply imagine my wife stroking my face and spitting on my forehead pretty sure id feel better
>>545848416I've never gotten it, even when I do the ritual. Does it require not being killed by Bhaal?
>>545847325loooli can remake him but i have to refind all the mods
>>545845640>Not that anon555-COME-ON-NOW
>>545849684I fought Orin before Sarevok and he complained about me rejecting Bhaal in the tribunal and attacked instead of asking to do the ritual, that might be related.
The Absolute crisis is leading a short race uprising.
Lae'zel approves bullying manlets
>>545851360I wouldn't refer to the non-character by his name, as that would acknowledge his personhood. He is technically a companion. He might even appear on the Origin selection screen. But he is, to me, a non-character, not even worthy of being named.
ok there
If you think about it, githyanki are the jeets of tamriel
>>545852738Can you do Astarion?
>>545854225One thing I don't get about the "githyanki empire" is what the hell the scale of it is. It's on an infinite plane, so is it so massive it dwarfs the population of Toril, or is it just some city state floating in the middle of nowhere that just acts as a pirate hub?
>>545855218They have multiple cities floating around in the astral plane plus the creches on the material plane where all the kids grow up.
>>545852738nice
>>545855082kk say something nice about himalso is it ok if i kill ethel by myself and not wait for my friendi only have this fight left before the underdark i did everything else
i mean
am i crazy
>>545820887Cute...
i'm leaving it
uh oh stinky!
>>545846852i always get the brand for these clowns when i'm not playing a charisma character.
>>545839401SharKEKS could never do this btw
>>545817097My zesty warlock
>>545861916I just use enhance ability since you get that at level 3
>>545861916i never get the brandi also forget to use the horn like every single time
If goblins don't like feet why are they demanding others to do foot shit?
>>545865713the goblin that asks you to kiss his feet is a footfag according to the dev notes
>>545858495Can you just fucking stop posting slop?
>>545866082Take your meds
>>545866082kill yourself
I wonder how many lv1-2 goblins it took to win the owlbear fight.
>>545520307>used to collect all useful equipment in a named container that I carried in my inventory>then it became too much so I separated ones with "Once Per Long Rest" actions>now I collect useful equipment in a named container and OPLR ones in another>then it became too much so I separated the most useful ones that appear in the "active rotation" >now I collect useful equipment in a named container, the most useful ones in another and the OPLR ones in a thirdIt takes advantage of the inventory's alphabetical ordering so everything is easy to find. I usually don't bother but distributing all the OPLR gear for one last fight and going all-in when you know a rest is inevitable anyways is satisfying.
halsin
>>545861578>>545859835>>545859552>>545859417>>545858495gave me the ICK
>>545884561
https://x.com/teamneilnewbon/status/1984015240435266044LMAO
>Well hello, mighty Githyanki warriors who surprised us at the gate towards the city.>Wouldn't it be a shame if we just Dashed back where the Curse is thicker?>Where the protection of the Light on your weapons cease to function?>Where those who succumbed to the Curse would attack his friends?
What do I use for modding?I mostly want some QoL mods like third person camera and stuffJust Vortex or something else?
>>545887528https://github.com/LaughingLeader/BG3ModManager
>>545887826ty
>>545887086Where was the honor in this?
>>545888748Sorry, I'm playing on Tactician.
>>545887086I should try this once.
>>545884979
>>545891618literally a woman at that point
>>545884489flying frog
>tell astarion to lockpick a chest>gotta hit a 15>dude has +9>4 rerolls saved up>rolls a 5, rorolls a 3, then rerolls a 4, then rerolls a 5 and then finally on the last reroll he manages a 6I let this fag suck my blood for this.
>>545783914Drow, Lolth-sworn. Blood covered, sitting on dead men's thrones.
feeding astarion rats for every time he fails to pick a lock
>>545893736you're using inspiration points on locked chests?
>>545852626cute, smug frog!
>>545783914Minthara needs scars desu. How else could you tell she was raped by Orin?
>>545852626she cute
>>545898247looks like the tranny you find in the circus
>>545893046
>>545898247It's exhausting having to share a thread with pigslop enthusiasts like you.
>>545899585
>>545898247>>545891618W-why did you change their faces too...
>>545894446When I all I use the guy for is opening locks, then yes.
lae'zel loudly making CHK noises as astarion breaks another lockpick
Did Larian update models or something? I'm watching a Japanese V-Tuber play the game and some characters are different races now. Like that halfling druid is now an elf.
Lmao i was interested in playing the game again for Karlach romance, but i accidently found out she anally rapes men in her sex romance. Weird choice.And funny thing is people online (mostly women) are defending it and making fun of guys not into it.Am i out of touch, or most men are not into any kind of prostate stimulation or anal fingering? Because im not, ive even tried once and it just felt weird.
>>545905147>I'm watching a Japanese V-Tuber
>I'm watching a Japanese V-Tuber play the gameWho the fuck are you people and where do you come from?
>>545905215they rushed the game's release and couldn't animate unique sex scenes for male & female characters in act 3 hence shadowheart and mizora getting a fade to black and karlach fingering your bootyhole
>I'm watching a Japanese V-TuberFor multiplayer fine but single player? Come on dude.
>>545905441id rather have a fade to black than getting booty blasted, having some niche fetish forced onto player
>>545905215>ive even tried once and it just felt weirdthat means you're gay.webm
>>545905215Doesn't she talk about riding you though? The hell?
>>545905895ever heard of cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, squatting cowgirl? What's shown there is not "riding" lol
>>545905215Pegging sounds interesting if it's not too big :^)
>>545906149>>545906149>>545906149
