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Branwen edition

>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, The Elder Scrolls, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

>Recommendations:
https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png

>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:
https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATe
https://monkposter.github.io/community.html

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>Thread question
Do you believe in changing the original portraits?
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>>545725016
>>545725086
Low WIS & PER
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this is barley even a flaw if im going a science build right?
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>>545725239
Weak Shivers more like.
Let the strong Savoir Faire take the reigns.
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>>545725164
>TQ
I never change the portraits that companions have, but I have used custom portraits for my own characters
Personally not a fan of the portraits in BG1 and 2 though, so if I were to change original portraits, I'd change those
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>>545725164
It is Britney, bitch
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>>545725164
Branwen is my answer to the other TQ about full companions.
She's a great character, should have been full companion in bg2
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>>545725164

Why is Disco Elysium listed up there but last time i asked anons told me it is not a crpg?
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>>545725328
>this is barley
Nah, looks like a flaw to me
But yeah, it does look like it's barely even that
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Harry...
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Ember wank is getting kinda fucking obnoxious
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These are your *friends* Harry,
Your *internet friends*...
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>>545725538
Whether or not something is a crpg depends on how I'm personally feeling moment to moment.
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>>545725894
[Evil] [Attack] I don't like you, die.
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They play CRPGs just like you do, you can trust them with all of your secrets
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>>545725164
>>Thread question
>Do you believe in changing the original portraits?
No, because that perverts the original creator's intent
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Harry! Relax... What's on your mind?
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Mr. Evrart is helping me find my gun
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Gabriel Knight CRPG
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>>545725538
>last time i asked anons told me it is not a crpg?
It's a crpg. There, no you can tell everyone that anons told you it's a crpg
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Star Trek TOS CRPG
>friendship arc with Spock and McCoy
>Romanceable Janice Rand
>Recurring Harry Mudd NPC
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>>545725665
She goes into the same garbage bin as shitnio and turdliet.
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>black people being the evil klingons
>yeomen wearing short skirts you can see the bottom half of their asses constantly
>instead of commiting to a single romance you can kiss (potentially fuck) a new female every episode (mission)
>diplomacy is the most powerful skill in the game and you win every fight with a speech check
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>>545725665
my cute autistic daughter
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Has anyone tried edge of war? the game looks somewhat interesting.
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>>545727996
Have played it for about 4 hours. It's pretty sovlful, though also has quite a lot of jank.
Sadly the last dev who had been working on it announced last month that the development will end since he got burned out after working on it for free for two years after their publisher pulled out and the studio went under.
Would still recommend giving it a go
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>>545727781
>instead of commiting to a single romance you can kiss (potentially fuck) a new female every episode (mission)
This literally, unironically, and in all other ways did not take place in TOS
Kirk hardly ever kissed any of the space girls
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>>545726007
>you can trust them with all your secrets
My secret is that I actually like Yrliet. I think she's cute.
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>>545719728
>purely for its own sake
It's not "for it's own sake" it's because he genuinely hates everyone. He's not carefree, he's an active misanthrope.
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Why doesn't owlcat just make a game without all the woke shit in it?
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>>545728980
Same. I can fix her.
I'm one of the main anti-yrliet posters
No one must know my secret
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>>545729772
Because they're faggots?
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>>545729396
He luvs me
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>>545730373
Only if you're a femcel. Gays don't love.
>mfw owlcat can only make decent romance for women
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>>545729841
Why would you fan the flames of Yrliet-hate? You want her for yourself anon? Nobody could possibly be that retarded!
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>>545730465
Daeran is gaycoded. The dynamic is 10 times better if you're a man. I will never romance Daeran as a woman
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>>545730746
I understand why you'd think this what with you being mentally ill and all.
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>>545730740
Because bad characters deserve to be hated
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I dont get why this game gets so much praise it's a detective story with no detective work, no branching paths, excessively long dialogue trees , the plot is shit and has no pay off, your character's mystery is boring and resolved in a singe plot dump at the end and the environment is uninteresting. Additionally the game romanticizes alcoholism and mental illness
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>>545731082
made by and for the rick and morty crowd
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I don't get why Avalon gets so much praise? He made the worst New Vegas DLCs such as Lonesome Road(the antagonist is not even a character, just his personal mouthpiece), Old World Reddit and Dead Money.
Josh Sawyer is what made New Vegas great and he made the most memorable character (Joshua Graham) and the best DLC
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>>545731416
First off most people don't give a shit about NV. Second, DM is easily the best DLC. The only thing good about HH is Graham who Sawyer hates.
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Obsidian stopped being relevant a long time ago. Don't know what do you all expect from this company anymore?
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>avellone bad
>sawyer bad
>du bois bad
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>>545731819
>>sawyer bad
>>du bois bad
yes
>>avellone bad
he got more up his own ass than bad
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Feargus Urquhart should stop being a generalist hands off suit and run Obsidian with a draconian grip.
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>>545731082
>it's a detective story
Actual brainlet. It's not a detective story. It's a character study
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>>545730813
Cope, seethe, etc
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avellone good
sawyer good
du bois good
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>>545732738
>It's not a [setting], it's a [genre]
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I don't get why so many people here care about Obsidian, its clear they are passed their prime and are washed. Welcome our new overlords, Larian, Warhorse and Owlcat as the only RPG studios worth a damn.
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>>545733292
>Warhorse
When do they start making crpgs?
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>>545730740
>Nobody could possibly be that retarded!
Don't underestimate anon's retardation
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Disco Elysium just showed the retards in california they SUCK and their budgets are WASTED ON SHIT. ZERO GOOD GAMES AFTER 2005.
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>>545725164
What does /crpgg/ think about the Shadowrun trilogy? People have told me to skip the first one or play the first one's campaign in the second one(?), but I don't really hear much about it aside from Hong Kong being fairly well received.
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>>545734720
First one is a tech demo at best
Dragonfall is very dry as far as characters go
Hong Kong is best
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>>545734720
I played all 3 and like them all. Started with Returns. It was ok, I appreciated the classic noire feel of the game. Didn't finish Dragonfall because mission structure pissed me off and I didn't really like the characters. Hong Kong was the best, and if you have to pick only one to play, then pick that one. Still I think all 3 are worth it
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>>545735041
>>545735227
Hong Kong is the only one where you feel like a shadowrunner doing jobs.
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Ku Feng is best girl.
Better than Cassia, that's for sure.
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Honestly feels like people have only come around to considering Hong Kong better recently. I remember a lot of people shitting on HK for being worse way back.
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>>545736282
I heard that too and I can't really understand it.
The characters in Dragonfall are less interesting, and so are the missions.
So I'm not sure what created this misconception.
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>>545736615
Too much black trenchcoat and not enough pink mohawk I guess.
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disco elysium is a shitty name though tbqhwyfamalam
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>>545737867
Would you have preferred the 'No Truce with the Furies'?
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>>545736615
Going from complainst gatheerd over the years and some comparisons, it usually boils down to:
>people prefer the main story/conspiracy of Dragonfall
>People prefer Berlin and its NPCs compared too Hong Kong who drone on and on with little substance, which even leaks a bit to the companions
>Remember Dragonfall director cut mroe than the on release and ignoring the pretty good Hong Kong Expansion

I agree a bit with the second point, but Hong Kong is better overall
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>Disco Elysium remaster: No Truce with the Furies edition
>now with double the horrific ties
>double the points in half light
>double the points in perceptions
>double the Cuno's
>and double the men from Wo
>stay tuned this winter and be ready for Revachol!
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>decide to try the Expanse books
>prologue of book 1
>has a chick drink her own piss after being raped and locked up
I see now why owlcat decided on this IP.
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>add good romance to your game
>it sells like hotcakes
Sawyer getting BTFO yet again. I'm an Aruechad btw.
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A lot of the weapons I'm finding in wotr have effects that target fort(for example), but these rolls are so low the enemies have to roll a 1 to be affected, if they aren't immune already to the effect.

Are they guaranteed hit on a crit or am I missing something?
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>>545740598
I want to dominate the demon lady.
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>>545731082
>I dont get why this game gets so much praise
I'll give you my thoughts as someone who enjoyed the game.
>it's a detective story with no detective work,
Because it is not really a detective game. It's just the excuse for the plot to happen.
>no branching paths
The destination of the story is always the same, but there is branching in how you get there. It is neither the first nor the last RPG to be guilty of that.
>excessively long dialogue trees ,
I enjoy them so that is mostly not a bad thing, although I have seen some complaints about Joyce. Personally I really enjoyed the mechanic of integrating skill checks the way the game did into the narrative with often both interesting success and fail states.
>the plot is shit and has no pay off,
You get the bad guy, meet the grasshopper, recruit best boy and get back to your squad. I think it's a fine pay off myself, although I feel DE is more about the journey than the destination.
>your character's mystery is boring
I enjoyed the revelations pertaining to Harry. It was refreshingly "normal" and a contrast I enjoyed throughout the game. The setting is in some ways very fantastical, but the the story is fairly mundane.
>and resolved in a singe plot dump at the end
When I got to the ending there wasn't much mystery left. We had gotten to know Harry's for the entire game at that point. I hadn't figured out that he used to be a gym teacher, but I think that was about it.
>and the environment is uninteresting.
I disagree. I think they have a lot of character and fit the story.
>Additionally the game romanticizes alcoholism and mental illness
I haven't really thought about this one. Maybe you could elaborate how it romanticises them?
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>>545740623
Some enemies have actually low saves and you can debuff saves effectively if you want(marching terror is effective early on even on higher difficulties for example)
But these effects should be the cherry on top, not what you rely on
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Whelp, which one anon?
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>>545741443
Do the right thing and kill her. Hilor is a lost cause anyway, dude is an actual schizo who can't handle the truth.
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>>545741443
Hilor reminds me of my own dad with dimentia and it saddens me
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found this Dragon Age Origins retexture mod on discord which that has a dead link on the official page, not sure where else to post it so posting it here for archival purposes so it doesn't get lost.

VANILLA FACE TEXTURE REPLACER FOR DRAGON AGE: ORIGINS
https://heleuss.tumblr.com/post/166189245124/vanilla-face-texture-replacer-for-dragon-age


https://files.catbox.moe/1bmbi4.zip
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>>545741705
I keep being surprised that tumblr still exists
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>>545741443
5
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>forgot to ask nurah about the handkerchief between leper's smile and the lost chapel
why the fuck can't you ask about it at the same time as asking about the flasks?
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Not going to lie when I first played Kingmaker I just completely wrote her off and ignored her. But doing her romance now and it's actually sweet after the initial stages. It's like the opposite of Valerie whose romance starts off sweet but gets progressively worse due to her 9 INT antics.
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>turnbased
>can strategically cast my spells and synergize with my team
>realtime
>spells take 10 sec to cast while my martials/pets butcher everything
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>>545740623
Nyo, they mostly suck at late game. But I think there is a few that, for some reason, add the class dc of the wielder on top of the effect DC. Gave CamCam a cape that can stun people when she stabs them, has a dc of 27, and somehow, she almost always proc the roll. Checked the values, and most of the demons were struggling to pass those saves somehow
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>>545742503
you didn't pick up the perfume
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>>545740598
says more about the masses than Chadwyers.
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>>545742529
Octavia is actually a cutie, but most of the time I just play wingman and fix her stuff with Reggy, feel a bit of pity for him.
My one grip regarding her is how her portrait makes her look old, when in reality, she should be one of the youngest party members, alongside Reggy and Linzi
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>>545733292
I had hope for inXile but the artstyle of their upcoming game is the same one as OWs, which is atrocious.
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>>545742795
interesting, i did notice my bow does entangle often, but the mace that stuns rarely hits.
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>>545742730
>cast crowd control spell on a group of enemies
>by the time you're done casting the enemies already moved 30 feet away to attack your stupid martial who was enamored by some random rat
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>>545743124
>makes her look old
it's the 1960s hairstyle
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>>545741205
The worst part of disco elysium is how I can't erase my memory to experience it for the first time again.
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>>545742896
fugg
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>>545743865
Same but also planescape torment. I'd love to forget it over and over and over
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>>545742529
Idk stealing her from the half-orc feels pretty gross
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>>545744467
They're relationship literally implodes by itself unless you personally step in to fix it. They aren't even compatible and were only together because they were both slaves. And Reg killing himself so the two of you could be happy was kino.
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trying alchemist and its very strong, 5 attacks with haste, bombs do 40-50 damage and never misses or resists and knocks people don't.
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>>545746715
Incense bomber is pretty good, works like a buffer debuffer and is very accurate, don't think it can hit the high end when it comes to dmg but is one of the better ones early on
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>>545740598
>can't romance Malevola or Prism
shit-ass trash """game"""
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>>545736282
>huh, weird, why did autists on 4chan.org gravitate to the game about Germans fighting secretive society-controlling dragons than a game set in the half of the world that scares them?
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>>545747473
You’re actually helping a not so secretive society controlling dragon the whole time though
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>>545748267
they miss that part because the environment artists distracted them with the subtle window swastikas all over the place
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>>545740598
but you can't romance the autistic assassin though?
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>>545740598
me peacing out of the party at the beginning
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>>545740598
repulsive art style
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>>545740598
Whats your fags obsession with this, its not even a rpg
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Unsanctioned w*tch, not even once
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>console gamer ITT
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>>545744589
That's like the ultimate cuckoldry.
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>>545750823
She broke her leg to let you directly kill demonic influence otherwise hidden
Show some respect
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>>545750443
>Whats your fags obsession with this, its not even a rpg
The amount of traction this VN is getting in /crpgg/ really shows just how many rpg-enjoyers are really just here to make their dollies kiss.
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>>545742529
She's such a disgusting cunt towards her mom if you pick the ""evil"" option when dealing with their mentor. Also Reg became a drunken loser who can't even hold a sword anymore in ending slides.
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>>545751431
I'm on pc, it's just that gamepad mogs kbm even in crpgs.
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>>545752445
> Also Reg became a drunken loser who can't even hold a sword anymore in ending slides.
Isn't that only if you don't do his quest? I think you can romance only Octavia and Reg still has a good ending if you do his personal quests too.
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How does Spell Resistance/Chaotic work? Does it mean Chaotic creatures can bypass the resistance, or rather that this resistance only applies against Chaotic creatures? This is from the Shield of Law of spell and based on the description I think it's the latter, but the way it's written is confusing because DR is listed as N/X where N is the amount of DR and X the material which bypasses it.
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>>545752761
Nah I did do his quest and didn't romance either of them. My guess it's tied to the choice you make when you track down their former master(good is saving prisoners from fire and letting him escape, and bad is vese versa).
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>>545752276
tragic
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>>545753002
>Second, a warded creature gains spell resistance 25 against chaotic spells and spells cast by chaotic creatures.
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Who's this Sawyer you guys keep talking about? Tom Sawyer?
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Tom sawyer crpg when?
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>>545754469
An Auteur, a Maestro.
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>>545754458
Yeah, that's the line I was referring to. So in the case of Spell Resistance it applies to Chaotic, but if you have DR/Chaotic then Chaotic bypasses it? Fucking annoying.
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@545752717
I threw up a little bit in my mouth reading this
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that surname used to mean mean pride
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>>545754469
chris sawyer, transport tycoon rpg
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now it means failure
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in this general he's a faggot commiefornia nepo baby, end of story
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>>545754658
Why does it look like he's in his childhood room living with his parents?
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>>545755031
its the hazard stripe tonka bed and his kindergarden book cubes
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>>545755031
in california thats luxury
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What is Sawyer even doing these days at Obsidian? He didn't work on either Avowed or Outer Limits 2 did he?
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>>545755214
Complaining about dollies and wishing he had Swen's budgets
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You don't need swen's budget to make a good game, swen himself didn't have bg3 budget for the original sin games.
Sawyer's problem is that he has to blame outside forces for his own failures. POE2 was riddled with issues from the getgo but he spent years trying to justify the failure on outside influences and finally years later just said "welp we ackhtually did make a profit just not fast enough".
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if josh had bg3's budget, he'd spend it on ship combat
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Getting the budget is harder than everything else
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Josh had double original sin 2 budget for poe2 and he made a worse game. Money was never his problem.
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>>545755573
the game was good though, it literally only didnt get as much normie attention because it wasnt full VA + orchestra with a cinematic game engine
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tom sawyer
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my favorite role is the watcher, who just watches the plot happen
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>OS2
>2 milliom
>POE2
>4.4 million
Sawyer sister...
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>>545756028
Technically that was only poe2 watcher, poe1 watcher actually does stuff.
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I don't want to hear a /v/irgin ramble about what's a good game or not, you people shill the space furry game
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Obsidian just needs to drop the Pillars setting. It is boring. Even the blandest generic high fantasy slop setting would be better.
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>>545756034
dats crazy. dos2 had 2 solid acts and full VA. poe2 is just constantly unejoyable where the combat and plot never get good
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we are making avowed 2 chuds. you cant stop us microsoft is on my side. ill be vindicated after my death like van goghas the greatest director of all time

I MADE FALLOUT NEW VEGAS
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Jokes aside Deadfire is a stunning game that is fun all the way up to its very disappointing ending.
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>>545756309
Pretty sure thats their marketing department advertising here for free
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it flopped.
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Reminder that the Dark Envoy game the one anon shilled here is a flop, because it's romanceless. A lot of people on steam forum requested it being added since the waifu options were solid, devs ignored so it flopped. The anon can cope about him enjoying it and romance not being necessary in rpgs, but this image slaughters his argument. CRPG fans don't care about muh unique gameplay or whatever, if BG3 didn't have romance it would even have 1/10th of the sales. That's a fact. No one here has arguments apart from bringing up Veilguard which had shitty romances, yet it still sold ok. It wasn't like these fames that never reached more than 2K peak.
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get a new record
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FACT: Wild Orlans are the most powerful race ever created.
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>>545757571
I don't think romance alone guarantees success. But with video games these days it is so hard to get a hit that you have to use every possible means to grab players and dollies kissing is one that works especially with women.
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GTA didn't have smooching dollies
Just booba in strip clubs
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Sven: We don't have to fight Sawyer. We can end this here and now.
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>>545755214
Early during Avowed's development, he stated again and again that he wasn't involved, but he apparently got roped in as some kind of advisor at some point of the game's development. Exactly what that entailed, I don't know. I was pleasantly surprised that they didn't rape the PoE lore, but even managed to expand on it in an interesting way so maybe he had a hand in that, I don't know.
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>>545759217
If Swen is a martial, what is Sawyer?
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>>545759457
celibamancer
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>>545759457
rogue - always stealing credit from others and backstabbed MCA
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>>545759457
Sawyer is an Aeon, his ultimate goal is to bring ultimate balance to the world.
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>>545758067
Halflings in 5e reroll 1s which mean they only crit fail 1/400 where as all other "ancestries" (I know gay), crit fail 1/20.
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My name is Sawyer, Balancer of Balancers, look onto my games, ye mighty and despair!
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These random map encounters are pissing me off
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>>545759457
Probably a scam call center employee or a rabbi
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The universe will end when Sawyer finally puts all the atoms in their right order.
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Imagine gue'vesa companion.
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>>545757571
>yet it still sold ok.
No it didn't lmaoing my ass off. It killed the DA series due to low sales and bad reception.
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What do we think of Owlcats *the expanse* CRPG?
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>>545766519
a) Not a CRPG
b)Barely any details out to really think anything.
Aside from Cute Blondie, I guess
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>>545766519
UE5 shooter slop
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>>545766519
If Mass Effect is a crpg so is Expanse
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CRPG = GAME I LIKE
NOT CRPG = GAME I DON'T LIKE
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CRPG = Game I hate
Not CRPG = Game you hate
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my favorite crpg this year is clair obscur
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my favorite crpg is Stardew Valley
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>>545725164
>Do you believe in changing the original portraits?
Aren't a lot of people using those anime portraits for BG1/2?
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red dead redemption 2 is a crpg?
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>>545725665
Ember would make more sense in D&D, where the Gods, even the good ones, are way more dickish and oppressive (see the Wall of the Faithless). The Gods are also the ones locking Faerun into medieval stasis, as anyone who comes up with a technology or spell that could jumpstart an industrial revolution gets zapped. Sometimes, they go too far, and Aio has to take a reprieve from battling time lords, neutrino golems, and planet sized demiliches to slap them around (see the Time of Troubles).
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>>545770456
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>>545770456
Absolutely terrible. Replacing the soul of classic BG with these souless abominations should be a crime.
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>>545767927
Mass Effect is not a CRPG, is the point
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>>545771796
On the other hand, the gods of Golarion are retarded so it evens out
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>>545770456
Soulful and the complete package
Using these is acceptable and doesn't betray the original spirit
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which dev would employ me to give them the world I built?
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>>545771796
One of the major LG gods is implied to be the LE creator deity of humanity and systemic genocide in disguise (after humans rebelled and almost killed him). The D&D pantheon is fucked.
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>>545770456
brain rotted from too much Japanimation
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>>545772634
It works surprisingly well, especially with how theatrical the voice acting and personalities are.
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>>545770456
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>>545770456
>tranime
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>>545772124
yes it is
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What CRPG gives me the Monty Python experience?
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>>545772106
Threadly reminder Ryoko Kui wrote a successful manga that was inspired by the likes of D&D and Wizardry, AND she also has better taste than 95% of this general. Show some fucking respect.
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>>545773457
Old Nan: Listen -- mummified emperors sitting on thrones distributing warrants is no basis for a system of naval promotion. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical skeletal ceremony.
>RT: Be quiet!
>Old Nan: Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some spectral sultan wrote a poem at you!
>RT: Shut up!
>Old Nan: I mean, if I went around sayin' I was a Planetary Govenor just because some regal poltergeist had lobbed a scroll at me they'd put me away!
>RT: Shut up! Will you shut up!
>Old Nan: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
>RT: Shut up!
>Old Nan: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed!
>RT: Bloody peasant!
>Old Nan: Oh, what a give away. Did you here that, did you here that, eh? That's what I'm on about -- did you see him repressing me, you saw it didn't you?
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>>545773119
It's called animé, and it isn't just cartoons. You’ve got entire genres exploring grief, existential dread, love, found family, all with better writing than half of "Hollywood". You don’t have to get it, but at least show some respect.
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>>545775597
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You unironically need to watch Berserk before you can fully understand BG2
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If only outerworlds 2 had more money.
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You unironically need to write an entire (youtube) essay about Kenshiro from Fist Of The Northstar before you can understand Berserk and then you need to show you understand that before you can understand BG3.
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Didn't Obsidian bring back that Gonzalez guy who was the main writer for new vegas? Wtf is he doing now?
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>solasta 2 next year
>dark heresy alpha next month
>supporting several indie crpg on kickstarter/steam early access
>in the meantime enjoying kino classic fantasy elder scrolls
life is good, rpgbros
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You all keep shitting on Larian but I don't see any other AAA studio making better CRPGs?
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if mass effect is a crpg so is gears of war
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It has occurred to me that Bioware is by far the most carcinogenic thing that has happened to the RPG genre, and it's not getting nearly enough flak for it here. It seems to me like the no. 1 "hated company" is Bethesda, but I will claim that Bethesda's sole sin, starting with Oblivion, is making dumb games for dumb people, and its negative reputation is inflated only because they took over Fallout and made it dumb.

Meanwhile let's take a look at what specifically Bioware added to the table that has become mainstream:

>Fake choices
>Romances
>Degenerate playersexual companions
>Gameplay taking a backseat because it's for nerds
>Popamole and non-RPG mechanics
>Arguably also Bioware-style "party" building of one player character and a bunch of dumbass uncontrollable or only partly controllable "deep" companions (compare Fallout to Ass Effect as to how the former's glorified tagalong mercs are different)
>Awesome buttons (Dragon Age 2 is the actual source of this)
>Probably also a focus on a "cinematic experience"

I'm probably forgetting more. Just about ALL the stupidity in modern RPGs can be traced directly to Bioware's efforts at ruining the genre. Without Bioware we wouldn't have bear sex, clown parties, RPGs as games where "you play a role" and a whole lot of other shit.

I have no idea how this company is even still alive after putting out fiasco after fiasco in recent years, but once they finally go under, I will call for a celebration that the greatest enemy of RPGs has finally vanished from the face of the earth. I know this is probably just me being a boomer but I associate bioware with pretty much starting all the problems we see in modern day crpgs.
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>>545777627
buffoonery is not sanctioned. /crpgg/ will remember this.
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*ahem*

cam
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>>545777354
Is eso combat still janky shit with godawful stiff animations?
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>>545777839
I wanna smooch her.
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>>545777762

>Fake choices
>Romances
>Degenerate playersexual companions
>Gameplay taking a backseat because it's for nerds
>Popamole and non-RPG mechanics
>Arguably also Bioware-style "party" building of one player character and a bunch of dumbass uncontrollable or only partly controllable "deep" companions (compare Fallout to Ass Effect as to how the former's glorified tagalong mercs are different)
>Awesome buttons (Dragon Age 2 is the actual source of this)
>Probably also a focus on a "cinematic experience"

And yet you people gobble up cdprslop like no tomorrow
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>>545777354
Don't you get whiplash, switching games so often?
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>>545778127
>And yet you people gobble up cdprslop like no tomorrow
Not everyone in this thread is a slav you know.
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Crpg for this feel?
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>>545777354
If you are such a proud paypiggy why don't you commission art instead of making AI sloppa of your numerous ugly waifus
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>>545727213
Fucking love that trilogy even if the third one has one of the most pants on head retarded puzzles ever
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Isnt dark heresy basically the same game as rogue trader using alot of the same assets and an extremely similar combat system? Its been 2 years since rouge trader released shouldn't it almost be out by now?
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>>545779272
>shouldn't it almost be out by now?
Owlcat doesn't want to compete with solasta 2.
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I'm trying to look for more ways to lower enemy AC in WotR, does Guide the Faithful (angel mythic upgrade to Sword of Heaven: debuff enemy with, among others, -4 AC) only work if I hit an enemy? Or do I just have to attack them? Does my initial strike benefit from that -4 AC?
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>>545727213
crpgg would shitpost about Grace (qt asian) and Malia (qt chocolate) and never talk about the plot
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>>545779602
>more ways to lower enemy AC in WotR
lower their dex
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>>545779272
Do you know what they did with pathfinder
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Replaying Pathfinder WotR for the first time since a couple years ago, does auto-crusade actually lock you out of any content e.g. for the mythic paths?
From a cursory glance online it seems that Lich & Swarm might be affected but it doesn't specify what workarounds are needed and I also can't tell if the info is outdated since I know there's been a lot of updates.
Can't really do much about it since I already started with auto mode enabled, just wondering what I'd have to bear in mind, if anything.
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>>545779994
The crusade is basically automode if you aren't retarded. You don't need to fight a single battle up to Drezen, for instance.
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>>545779797
I'd shitpost about Tim Curry's hilariously awful Cajun accent myself
>WHAT CAN YEW TELL ME 'BOUT... VOO DOO?
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mario kart crpg when?
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>>545779863

Sure but is GtF wasted if I can never hit an enemy due to theirhigh AC? Or do I just have to attack them and make it easier from now on?
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Why isnt the sexy captain from the cinematic trailer on the cover?
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>>545780821
she looks bogged
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>>545781084
In the future everyone will be bogged
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Since owlcat is just trying to be bioware 2.0 how much longer until they release their version of veilguard?
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>>545772124
It is tho, just dumbed down, but 1 and 2 are pretty much rpgs
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>>545781175
They already made Pathfinder Woke of the Righteous SJW.
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Here’s a simple guide for whether or not a game is a crpg
>do I want attention on 4chan
Not a crpg
>do I want to talk about something I like
True crpg
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>third person shooter is an rpg bcuz
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Mass Effect is an rpg
the Witcher and Disco Elysium aren't
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bg2 is just path of exile but with more companion management anyway.
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I like icecream, is icecream a crpg?
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>>545781791
Yes.
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disco elysium is based on an actual rpg system using 2d6 you stupid trannie
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monopoly is not a crpg though
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>game mechanics are chance based
true crpg
>game mechanics only increases damage
not a crpg
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>>545773842
>I am waiting for the japanese version
Cute, is she Dungeon Meshi author?
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If outerworlds 2 is supposed to be a anti-capitalist game why did they critique communism way more and made their faction unjoinable?
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>microsoft published and released an anti capitalist game
lol
lmao even
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My Dremora Tief. Also, want to say that the KM armor sets are so much better looking than the ones if Wrath. Crusader sets lack flair.
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What's your favorite CRPG theme? Mine is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsOBCPvkjYc
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>>545781830
I actually don't like icecream and only wanted attention on 4chan hah! Got you!
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>>545782363
No cares what the "message" is because they know it won't take. It is about as threatening to them as a Che Guevara shirt.
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>>545770456
No
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I have never completed Wrath of the righteous. I got to hell then gave up.
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>>545773842
>BG3
>Divinity
>Dragon age
>PoE
>better taste
No wonder her manga sucks.
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>>545773297
Sir, this is an anime nightcore producing board
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Protectorate>aunties choice>the order.
Not!stalin did nothing wrong.
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Beat colony ship the other day.
As sad as it is to say, I still don't know if i liked it or not. I'll call it way better than Age of Decadence, but fuck me if the balance wasn't really schizophrenic. Probably shouldn't have played a lone wolf melee build on underdog but still
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>>545771796
I mean, Golarion isn't much better. Most "good" gods condone what is happening at Cheliax, where slavery and opression is law and we have a bunch of devil worshippers mingling with diety faithful (See the Hellknights). Groetus literally eat the souls of people who don't follow a god or diety, and hold them hostage til the end times. It's kinda fucked that you are FORCED to worship something in that world, otherwise, Majora's Mask moon will eat you when you die
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>>545782487
Why isn't armor customization/painting a standard feature in more RPGs?
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>>545783283
Aeon, huh?
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>>545784319
>bastard sword
Very shitty weapon choice. You'll never make it on unfair.
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Obsidian is the eternal "we could have made it great if we had more time/money" TOW 2 took 6 years to make, funded my Microsoft, 1500 people involved. Still somehow these retards can't make anything worthwhile. Go and slink back under your rock you old phony has-beens.
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>>545784353
Angel, actually. I just hated the map rotation business. it fucked me off for a while, then I got lost. then I ran into a succubus? idk, something named that opened with a stun and took out my party constantly turn one.

fuck it, i'll try again. 1-4 paladin, 5 fighter, 6-0 warpriest.
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>>545784319
most of us don't play crpgs to play dress-up-dolly
some customization is great but most of it is lost on the actual players (the kind who matter and aren't broken in the head)
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>>545777762
Tf you mean you moron, most of those things already existed way before that, Baldurs and Torment had romance way before ME1 and Jade Empire made it mainstream, fake choices were a thing ever since DOS RPGs and companions controlled by the A.I isn't as prevalent as you think, only action/first person games have it. Heck, Phantasy Star 2 had a romance heavy plotline where your chosen partner would birth the protag of part 2, that shit released way before computer games became complex

Most of those things would become a thing regardless of Bioware, it's the natural progression of games becoming popular, just like how RTS became faster and balanced around MP
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>>545784319
Would love something like Mordhau's armor customization.
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>>545785241
why such boring classes? play something more interesting and go demon instead
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>>545784319
Most RPG players don't care about fashion or roleplay. They'll throw on the most eye searing combination of weaponry and equipment to minmax their stats. It's not about looking good, it's about hitting good.
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>>545785585
I like strong thematics. Angel + paladin is a no brainer. warpriest also fits and fighters are fighters.

Barbarian + Demon? gimme something.
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>>545779272
It will be probably what WOTRO was to Kang. They will improve upon the gameplay and give you more build and class options, but make the party worse
>>545779994
No, Auto-crusade will literally auto-complete all non repetable decrees randomly, you might need to spend a huge fucking time afking and skiping time til the A.I do what you want, but even Ascension Ending can be done with Auto-Crusade
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>>545782498
since we're shitposting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IunbXWab1_Y
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>>545784541
No one should play unfair on a first playthrough
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>>545785732
Those who play like that aren't human and their opinions shouldn't be considered.
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>>545783283
>hell
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>>545785828
Kineticist Demon is pure kino.
Barbarian feels a bit reduntant since the path already give you Rage as a skill
>>545785480
Man..why did that game had to fail? It was so fucking good..
>>545785989
No one should play Unfair, it's lame. Core is all you need
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>>545785732
I care about fashion and roleplay. I don't wear ugly armor.
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Argenta should have been black and romanceable.
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>>545785989
Bastard swords are shitty on core and up. Major step down from KM, where they were an amazing weapon type. Also, what is up with them being exotic? IRL, they were one of the most common type of swords in the west during the medieval period. On TT, they're only considered exotic if wielded in one hand, else they're martial weapons.
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>>545785828
I did mad dog barbarian demon with some levels in two handed fighter, it was pretty cool.
It's a little weird because you get demonic rage, different than your barb rage, and so it overlaps in a way that I thought was not so great, but it's probably the most thematic if you want to go the raging lunatic type demon.
Also you can with the mythic get unlimited rage, but your demonic rage still has a certain number of rounds, so it doesn't completely overlap
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>>545786256
>Finally a Sister romance
>oh no she's black!
>Owlcat/GW hate straight men!
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>>545786189
Yeah but you knew what it was so shut the fuck up about it and go have a wank.
>>545786205
>Kineticist Demon
I have no idea what the fuck a kineticist actually does. Shit maybe a wizard + lich
>>545786474
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>>545786625
Kineticist are basically Avatar's benders.
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>>545786625
imo kineticist is a really boring class, you basically just do your one thing over and over forever, and it feels kind of, I don't know, weeb-ish to me for some reason.
Never felt the urge to play one after the KM twins.

wizard + lich makes sense. I'd also even suggest some kind of martial with lich, actually. Many of the lich spells are self/companion buffing or completely ignore spell resistance. I think a martial lich could work really well, but I haven't tried and probably won't since I did wizard lich already.
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>>545786558
wheres the contradiction
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>dorkly comics in the big 2025
Unc....
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>>545784607
they didnt have enough money
it wasnt a passion project
it was the B team
microsoft made them publish it

POE3 with BG3 budget would go hard and you know it
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>>545786205
>No one should play Unfair
Skill issue. I beat unfair on my first run with 0 issues. Just use your brain.
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The more small bits we get about swens space game the more it sounds like vampire hunter D but marvelized
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>>545786625
beast rider lich with a deathtouched animal, but not horse because I can never take a fighting horse seriously
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>>545787304
>POE3 with BG3 budget would go hard and you know it
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>>545786997
Anons hate black women
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>>545787417
you would still need Cha right, to cast? How much minimum?
And if you become undead then your hp gets based on Cha too
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>>545787391
>project's name is most likely Sunny
>bird people with horsecocks
>may be more action focused
>swen thinks that it'll be better than bg3
that's pretty much it so far, larian's vibes are more akin to 2010's newground cartoons than marvel sloppa
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Reminder if you dont romance the black woman you are not playing the way owlcat intended.
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>>545787925
But Seelah and Idira are unromancable?
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owlcat writer and interracialist here

why didnt you like jae and romanced an elf i wrote to cuckold and betray you? i made a normal heterosexual women with oriental flair and you flocked to the cuckold romance
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>>545787925
The only black woman they have ever given you has awful skin
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>>545787890
Horsecocks what. I missed that bit
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Is it true that the Lord-Captain had to buy Jae an entire ship before she let him touch her?
I just asked to play cards and she started to take her clothes off
t. Bridge Crew Officer
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>>545788087
>seelah
She is a icon which is a major character in pathfinder lore thats like if bg3 let you rolance elminster, of course paizo wont let you romance her.
>idira
GW clearly said no to that.
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I'm quitting videogames, goodbye.
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>>545788509
larian devs worked very hard to get their cock & balls physics just right it'd be a shame to simply recolor cocks and call them alien dicks
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>>545788635
But
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>>545788825
>we want the red dead redemption audience
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>>545788635
you're supposed to keep playing action crpgs and pre order PoE 3 though
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>>545788537
No he gave her a planet. Bitches love planets.
Come to think of it, maybe I should just have given Janus to Yrliet.
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>>545788825
Hmm. Fuck it, I'm in.
>>545789392
Red dead redemption 2 is a beautiful game. More rdr2s please.
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>play icewind dale for the first time
>get to first dungeon in vale of shadows
>40+ enemies on the first floor
>look up future locations
>50+ enemies across 5 floors in the next chapter
>a fucking 15 map megadungeon after that
somehow I do not think I will finish this game, this just seems exhausting.
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if your game doesn't have intricately modeled animal genitals can it even be called a crpg?
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>>545790256
Show, don't tell.
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is Daggerfall a crpg
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Why did they make pillars turn based the system clearly wasn't designed for it.
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>>545790856
Elder Scrolls is in the OP so yes
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>>545791041
Bg3 did gangbusters
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>>545791041
Sawyer after playing bg3 (which he admits is one of the best games of all time btw) had a come to Jesus moment and saw the errors of his ways.
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>>545791041
larian and expedition 33 kind of killed real time with pause
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how would cuck old queen Yrliet react to an offer to save her butthurt race on janus in exchange for sexy sex? why cant we fuck any one in the grim dark puritan future of 40 woke?
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HOT TAKE!!!
I prefer solasta to bg3.
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>>545791330
>expedition 33
>rtwp
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>>545786558
Just do what they did with Wyll and a mod that makes her white would quickly come
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>>545791519
You are valid
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solasta would be better 2e

dnd killed all medieval fantasy shit with their garbage editions. poe knock offs suck, 5e sucks, 3e and pathfinder sucks. they wont license it so we can have good games like ToEE and BG2
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>>545791889
>spends hours playing crpgs and talking about them and still can't read for shit
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>2e in the big 2025 when its either 3.5e,5e or bust
Unc.....
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I find kinda sad that they didn't bother to give Demon Aru a line or two during the DLC, she's basically a non character there and it shows, even Ulbrig at least have a piece or two to say, and he suffers from Owlcat dlc character issues. A huge missed potential tbw, since her VA killed the delivery of the few lines she have
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people want to stop time not do gay ass pre-buffing or auto attacking
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GURPS crpg when
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>>545791041
Modern audiences don't like rtwp anon, it's a relic from the past, bound to the limitations of old engines and their dreams of making fully real time action games
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>>545792753
you can tell the VA enjoyed being a sex demon much more than some waifu for cringe losers

same with Linzi
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>solasta to devs have no ties to wizards at all
Does that mean we are going to have the wierd spell slot progression where we have 3 slots for each spell level most of the game?
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>>545782124
I believe so. I think she's said in an interview that she loves WotR too.
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i hate demon women
i hate demon women
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>>545793035
Seems so, she was clearing having fun recording those, makes me wish we could get an interview with the VAs, some of them seems to be nobodies, but they delivered quite well
>Same as Linzi
Care to explain? Never finished Kang, only progressed til the Troll arc and my HD died
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>>545792971
turn-based action is a compromise for a limitation, players/npcs can't be shouting out what they're doing simultaneously.

Computers don't have this limitation (to a very large degree). Carrying turn-based action forward is as stupid as having the computer-DM need to take bathroom breaks or wanting to call it a day after so many hours.

The key isn't throwing out RTwP, it's continuing to innovate and iterate on it, which Pillars1&2 did, and if they had continued Pillars3 would have as well I'm sure.

Now excuse me while I stand here doing my idle animation until it's my turn to post again.
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>Level 12 Ghost takes off -18 STR in one hit (can just insta kill low level characters)
>has tons of BAB, makes 4 hits per attack
>your restoration spell only adds +3 STR back per cast at most
>enemy tends to spawn on top of you, so you can't get your prebuffs in unless you reload
From my experiences with WotR on Core, Pathfinder doesn't fuck around. I will probably never play the tabletop game since so much of it seems designed to be as frustrating as possible. I'll stick with D&D.
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Honestly im tired of spell slots, indie games with heavily dnd inspired systems like underrail for example that use mana always play way better and you are able to do so much more with.
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>>545794298
This cannot be a post in good faith, but assuming it is, there are significant differences between tabletop PF and Owlcat's implementation of videogame PF. One major one is something called "The Dungeon Master", or DM.
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>>545794064
the va is the bland bard in km and uhhh, LILY-TWO, of whatever you encounter at the stone
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>>545794256
Sorry anon, but PoE RTWP didn't felt like an inovation at all, KOTOR did though, and a proper real time inovation would lean closer and closer to..Action RPGs, like DAO which have cooldown, timers and whatnot, but also a pause button. People shit a lot on it, but Real Time inovations should haven taken what DAO did, instead of making janky messes like POE and Tyranny where you can phase through the frontlines without a care in the world and their weird timers that makes high end combat an overhelming mess, specially if you try to pull a CC build.
People just didn't like it.
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>>545794298
The difference is, in proper tabletop you have a dm who won't usually have the 5 million fucking adds WOTR carries
That said I prefer 2e pathfinder since there's way less crunch
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>>545794298
A good DM would't pull the shit Owlcat does. Besides 2E feels much less janky. The fact that equal conditions don't stack is also a godsend, you also have much more tools at lower levels
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>>545794298
>Cast death ward to nullify
>Game spawns shadows at market square before you can cast a lvl 4 spell which needs lvl 7 clerics
Whoever designed negative levels needs to be shot
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>>545794298
PF is only really bad at low levels. I've played the TT a few times, and it's not uncommon for players to sit around at the table for an hours doing nothing because their character has been disabled. Low level monsters can be extremely dangerous to players of equivalent level. Once your cleric gets some oomph in them, then a lot of the damage can be fixed with just a session of rest.

Actually, that's one thing that's missing from a lot of CRPGs. On tabletop, you can just look at your spell list, and state "Hey, I want to use my spells here to fix the attribute/level damage of my party, and your DM will usually say "Sure" if you're not in a dungeon. It's very convenient. In many CRPGs, you need to manually change your spell loadout, then manually heal each and every companion with the right spell. The "everything gets healed on rest" is actually more accurate to the usual tabletop experience (so long as you have the spells for it).

Additionally, most TT and CRPGs will have NPC clerics or hospitals you can visit for full healing. I have no clue why the fuck Owlcat doesn't have this feature. You should be able to sleep in your crusader camp and heal all attribute damage except for the most exotic shit. It just seems to be something they do to fuck with you and make things more frustrating for no logical reason.
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>>545794946
>POE and Tyranny where you can phase through the frontlines without a care in the world
What? PoE and Tyranny are nothing alike in this regard. PoE's engagement mechanic makes "phasing through the frontlines" a death sentence for most squishy characters.
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>>545795481
I don't think I'd like playing pathfinder tt without an automated buff interpreter fuck that
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>>545795367
>>545794298
literally a skill issue, turn down the difficulty to play at a more appropriate level for yourself
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>>545780375
HE WAS DOING HIS BEST OKAY?
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>>545795481
>Additionally, most TT and CRPGs will have NPC clerics or hospitals you can visit for full healing. I have no clue why the fuck Owlcat doesn't have this feature. You should be able to sleep in your crusader camp and heal all attribute damage except for the most exotic shit. It just seems to be something they do to fuck with you and make things more frustrating for no logical reason.
It's for the power fantasy. The clerics back in the camp are shit who can barely heal a paper cut. Your party members are the only ones worth anything.

I actually really hate this aspect of Wrath. If the crusaders are as shit as the game implies throughout, the demons should have steamrolled them completely. There's no way that a bunch of level 1-5s could hold back the demonic horde full of footsoldiers with upwards of 30 AC.

>>545795662
You wouldn't need to. On TT, most encounters are not ones you can prep for, so you're casting buffs in battle, and the GM adjusts the monsters with that in mind.
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>>545795784
They should just go play CoD.
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>>545795784
I mean you can just lesser animate dead they can't affect skeletals
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>>545796559
it's realtime, too much for them to handle.
maybe there's some kind of "touch bright colors and get a sound effect" phone game out there for them
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>>545796387
It's wild how Arisonie can't rezz your dead party members or cure your ailments, if you lose Sosiel and Daeran you are mostly fucked without mercs, and that's a very lame game design.
At least in Kang oleg post could heal your squad status effects
>>545795662
If you compare WOTR statblock to TT, most of them have been buffed to hell, your party doesn't need that many buffs in live play, Bless/Good Hope and the ocasional save spells are enough for most encounters, everything else is sweaty play
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shooters are way harder than owlcat's games and their artificial difficulty
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I'm tired of torel and faerun since wizards said they want to make a few b-tier dnd games give me birthright and mystara.
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>>545796770
Ac and ab gets like +an absolute fucklot differential
Tt oracle can hit 110ac without items just casting spells and you don't start anywhere near there
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>>545796969
Birthright would be pure kino, we need more RPGs with tycoon elements, it's non ironically one of the things that made me like the Expeditions games a lot
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>>545796770
>It's wild how Arisonie can't rezz your dead party members or cure your ailments, if you lose Sosiel and Daeran you are mostly fucked without mercs, and that's a very lame game design.
Skill issue.
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>>545752243
Psyker sex
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>>545795481
You buy scrolls from the cleric and then cast them yourself. That's how NPC healing works. It is very inconvenient. If I was battling some particularly nasty blokes and neglected to cast the right buffs and immunities (or they overcame the buffs), then my party will be covered in a bevy of diseases and debuffs, so I need to cast like 3 to 5 different scroll types, sometimes multiple of the same scrolls depending upon stat damage, for every one of them. The Black Isle games had a much better healing system, despite being decades older than PF.
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who the fuck is """""""""""Arisonie"""""""""""
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>>545779797
Is that a guy from A-ha?
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>>545795481
>>545798090
I wish there were a "remove negative effects on rest only if you know the spell to remove the effect" difficulty option. On TT, you would just rest for a few days, and so long as one of your party members had the spell that counteracted the effect, you'd be cured.
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>>545794298
It's clear you never played any of the harder D&D based games, ToEE was basically the same thing, and I've heard nightmare stories about pool. The entire reason the pathfinder crpgs are as punishing as they are is that owlcat seems to have this obsession with making the core experience supremely challenging to the point that no DM would go to in TT. Note that in the difficulty settings "normal" is substantially nerfed, and core is the third highest. Unless DM's likewise have an obsession with torturing their players they typically exercise substantial fiat over encoumters in their campaigns to keep the game moving along because combat so so time consuming in TT. The maze alone as owlcat made it in core would be at least an entire session in TT assuming the party didn't wipe to the cellar niggas or blunder into the water elemental unprepared.
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>>545798503
Lmao
>>545798184
I think anon meant Arsinoe, the Abadar slut who sticks around even after you eat a huge bug
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>>545796860
Pathfinder is terrible it's just a buffing simulator. Don't know about rogue trader.
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She's so fucking retarded bros...
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>>545792941
Isn't that what's fallout is based on?
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>>545799075
Ironically, Wrath is one of the more easy TT modules.
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>>545799548
I mean, you have party wide Greater Invisibility that can't be dispelled and can't be countered by true-seeing as one of the Mythic Feats.
Mythic is way more lame, but way stronger in TT. You can solo most of the enemies with stat blocks once your Mythic 3 goes online
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>>545798185
It was a different time. You were either an Ah-ha look alike or you had that RE2 Leon Kennedy haircut
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>>545799548
>Flexible Counterspell (Su)

>Your mythic power enhances your ability to counter others’ spells. As animmediate action, you can expend one use of mythic power to attempt tocountera spell. This ability otherwise works like readying an action tocountera spell, except instead of using the exact spell ordispel magic, you can instead expend a spell or spell slot of a level equal to or higher than the target spell.

They can dish stuff like this, what did you expect?
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>>545758870
You could take girls on dates
Remember that Latina who was crazy
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>>545770456
Imoen is the only good one
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>>545801287
Sapphire? I recall that she had a huge ass plotline about a stolen fortune.
Her booty was kinda nice
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>>545781791
Mint icecream yes, strawberry no
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Should I delete (not deactivate but fully delete) my steam account? I want to quit gaming but apart of me won't let me take such a drastic measure, even though if I were serious about quitting then why would I care?
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>>545791429
Any other Eldar woman would do it, but not her. That's her arc - not doing her part for the craftworld
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>>545801748
A lot of places make mint icecream water based and free of dairy, which would technically make it a sorbet, not an icecream.
Strawberry is usually done with dairy so it's proper icecream.
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>>545801817
just get an other hobby or two
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>>545801817
If you're serious about quitting for some reason, then you wouldn't need to delete your account because you could just stop playing. If you're not serious about quitting and delete your account, you'll regret it and just create a new account.
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>>545802047
I have a few hobbies desu but when I'm into my weird gaming phases I ignore all of them, I don't exercise, don't travel, don't hike, gaming becomes an obsession. I spend every free moment I have away from my PC theorycrafting builds, or shitposting here and just forget every other aspect of my life.
I've managed to quit gaming for short stretches in the past and I did much more interesting stuff like hiked a portion of via alpina on switzerland. I always end up relapsing though, my health deteriorates, my /fit/ness deteriorates, I no longer do anything interesting and just think about how I'll build my dollies.
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>>545802242
>>545802047
Why do you keep replying to him? He's the schizo who keeps coming here and saying he will quit the internet, all while bothering people on why they aren't doing the same.

He will come back and ask the same thing in one week
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>>545791429
>an offer to save her butthurt race on janus in exchange for sexy sex
It depends who's making the offer. Marzipan yes, Elancuck no
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>>545802416
>in a week
try tomorrow
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>>545799403
What armor is that? Looks cool.
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>>545802416
Sorry, my bad. I stepped away from /crpgg/ for a number of months and apparently haven't lurked enough to recognise the new flavour of schizo.
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>First time doing the tavern defense
Sweet fuck how many neophytes these motherfuckers have? the devil nigga backstabbed like 10 of the bastards
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just use grease or winter's grasp and you win
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>>545802902

They spawn endlessly, you need to take out important targets like Alchemists
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>delete steam account
>start pirating games instead
>tfw suddenly own the games insteading of leasing them
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speaking of piracy, anyone play that pirate crpg called flint?
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>>545803057
Noticed that after the 5th round yeah. FIrst time I had to start on turn based cause shit got hairy really fast.
Lemme ask something, do they do these endurance fights later on?
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>>545803221
>HD crashes
>Pirate site down
>No games
What now?
We lost when physical media ended
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>>545803435
No, the only other fight with endless enemies is a shitty backer quest that start as a fallout node somehow , there is a few huge ass dungeons later, but if you endured the Maze, you can endure them
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>>545801817
Quitting a hobby you enjoy is stupid unless that hobby is financially destructive. Gaming is one of the cheapest hobbies out there and anything that replaces it will be many times more expensive. If you're in the mode of "if I quit I'll have more time to accomplish other goals with no distractions" you're lying to yourself because you'll find other distractions to fill the gap. If your issue is that gaming is an addiction this goes doubly because you'll just fall into a worse addiction.
If it's just a time management issue then schedule things out. When you have free time take a walk instead of booting a game.
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>>545803474
>HD crashes
Restore from backup? I have all my GOG installers downloaded and backed up.
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>>545803678
Thanks anon!
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>>545803407
Never heard of it, care to discuss? It's a neat setting that barely gets any love
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>>545755031
because he bought that house for his parents
that would actually be cool
to bad I can't afford to buy my parents a house anywhere close to where I can make money to live with them
I love my parents
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I'm going to pick up my Orlan Wizard run of PoE again that I took a break from. Has anyone tried out the new surprise patch they dropped? Anything to be weary of?
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>>545804658
Same..I wish I could buy a cozy farm house for pops retirement or get him a vintage McLaren that he loved since he was a youngin.
It sucks to be a wagie
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>Anything to be weary of?
what did he mean by this
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>>545804912
the tb stuff? its faster than poe2
the other patch was for unity's security breach
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>>545805341
No, I was thinking of the surprise bug fix and whatever patch. It was just an engine thing?
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>>545805341
>>545805489
I went and checked the patch notes and my memory is apparently messed up. I thought there was another major patch, but I must have dreamt it.
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>>545805717
sawyer beamed that straight into your mind anon
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That's a fucking corpse starch isn't it
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>>545805996
Corpse-starch is overmemed. It's only used in the most dire circumstances
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>>545806979
It's the standard food across the Imperium.
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my future wife
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>>545808597
There are going to be so many space farmer memes about her.
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>>545785480
Mordhau had cool armor.

>>545786205
>Man..why did that game had to fail? It was so fucking good..
Too sweaty. It was hard to have fun if you were just starting out.
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>>545806474
Cute rascal.
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Holy shit Aldori Swordlord has a fucking laundry list of requirements and doesm't even give anything good what's the point
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>>545810373
John Aldori is cool and has big MC energy
also very thematic in KM
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>>545807954
That's what overmemed means
It was something used for feeding troops rarely in the most severe emergencies
But everyone wants to meme it so now it's all over the place
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>>545810784
best classes for Legend John Aldori?
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>>545811190
Slayer 20
Duelist 10
Aldori 10
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>>545786951
>I think a martial lich could work really well, but I haven't tried and probably won't since I did wizard lich already.
I played an eldritch knight lich and it was very good. Ended up diverting into legend at the end though and it was even better.
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>>545810784
It's because they're so important in Kingmaker that I expected them to be somewhat decent. The dueling swords will have to carry it. I remember Jannah giving you a special dueling sword but aside from that I can't remember any
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>>545786951
Sorc/Dd/Ek lich legend is kind of a standard build
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>>545807954
It's impossible for corpse starch to be any sort of "standard food" because the numbers wouldn't add up no matter how large the population is.
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>>545811527
You can get greater invis and dimension door on a wizard and get bloodhound at lvl 7
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>>545808597
I want more info about this one
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>>545812018
Can't see shit captain
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>>545811839
I do appreciate being able to cheese your way to special weapons in Kingmaker. I did the same thing for the Tyrant flail. There weren't any moments where you do that in Wrath
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What the fuck is the expanse more 40slop?
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What the fuck is the expanse lord of the rings?
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>>545811676
>>545811396
I wonder about an entirely non-casting lich though, pure martial and just using the spells that don't deal with DC or that ignore SR and are still good when failed. There's a lot of spells that don't seem to need you to be a great caster.
What would you need in Cha though to cast the highest spells? I forget how that works. Is it spell level + 10? So like 19 Cha to cast 9th level? And do you get extra spell slots for higher casting stat with mythic spellbooks?
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>>545813969
Yeah that's why Eldritch Knight Lich Legend is the optimal Legend build, because you can get your 9th level spells on top of your 20 levels of full BAB. A full martial Lich is good too, Monk actually has amazing syngergy with Lich's buff spells and just going Fighter or Paladin is fine too, doubly so if you go Legend and start mix and matching them
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>>545813969
You still want cha you're running 11 paladin and 1 hellknight on that lich and the spellbook merge keeps lich spells as legend
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Lich spells seem kinda meh so far I got to lvl 12m3 so I have lvl 7 spells and nothing really exciting yet
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>>545812404
>tall lanky redhead belter wife
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Reminder to never play owlcat games on release they have yet to release a game that is fully playable at launch
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>>545814607
Blessing of Unlife is amazing, Restore Undead also. Bone Shield is just free +6 AC. Bone Explosion is great, Exsanguinate at level 12 is 12d6, very nice with Maximize or other metamagic.
Eyes of the Bodak, Mastery of Flesh is nice if you have extra spellslots for a bit of healing or hurting. And the most fun spell in the game, motherfucking Repurpose.
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>>545814607
You get Exsanguinate at lv 5 which is 1d6 per caster level with no save. And if you are merged, it ramps up faster.
Metamagic this.
Bone explosion is also good and everything that dies joins you with Repurpose.
When you get corrupt magic, there are no real threats left and you get that by fucking Midnight fane
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>>545815762
Does exsang work on shit without blood though? Start ofnact 3 you fight tons of undead still havent done the whip ghost fights
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>>545814373
You do not even really need the lich buff spells for monk to be absurd, just Death rush and mythic charge.
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>Blessing of Unlife everyone
>Fungal Infestation followed by Bone Explosion
motherfuckers exploding all around us setting off negative energy bursts that heal us
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>>545816067
Ember would never wear that gaudy shit
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>>545816168
Hmm I really don't want to take a druid I take it I can get that from loremaster
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>>545816792
I suppose you could, I got it from respec'ing Cam as Prophet of Pestilence which is a fun class.
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>>545816627
Hoboember.
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>>545777762
>but I will claim that Bethesda's sole sin, starting with Oblivion, is making dumb games for dumb people, and its negative reputation is inflated only because they took over Fallout and made it dumb.
I consider the fact that Bethesda raped the Fallout franchise and the fact that they have dumbed down the Elder Scrolls to be valid reasons for hatred.
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Fucking boga swarms are worse than everything you can encounter in act 3
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>>545816627
She'll wear whatever the Knight Commander tells her to wear.
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>>545818787
>>545818787
>my name is skylar white yo
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What's the armor that's closest to what Arueshalae is wearing in her portrait?
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I wish arue was with you when she falls again
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>>545820172
It doesn't exist.
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>>545782487
>want to say that the KM armor sets are so much better looking than the ones if Wrath
Why was the art direction so much better in Kingmaker?
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>>545822404
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>>545822404
CDPR poaches a lot of Owlcat's artists for the Gwent game.
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This is what my Angel runs are like.
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>>545823130
Aniki... you are still in our thoughts...
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>>545818787
M-Mod?
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>>545822404
Lot of Owlcat artists left after Kangmaker, since they almost got bankrupt. Also they lost the rights to Kang, so I think I few things were lost due to it
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>>545823856
Visual Adjustments with the Underwear Metal picked in EE Picker.
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Starfighter afterlight will surpass wrath of the righteous
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>>545821525
prompt?
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>>545825372
But a new studio is making it
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So, not counting buffs, is dex + light armor or full heavy better for ac?
I'm giving full dex fighter a go but im torn between doing that or going full str heavy with a 2hander
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>tfw you are on a Last Azlanti run and the Deskari poison kicks in right after ascension
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>>545827117
How do you treat Deskari poison? I tried to remove it with Neutralize Poison, but that didn't do shit. My noob ass wishes that sometimes the game told you exactly what removed what. They shouldn't call something a poison if it's not a poison.
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>>545827256
Maybe you shouldn't be playing on core?
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>>545827117
A MORTAL GNAT-
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>>545827475
Core is literally "the way the game was meant to be played." Normal removes more than half of the enemies capabilities and half their spawns. It's fucking boring. Either play on core or above or not at all.
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>>545827117
big lol
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Every new art of Yrliet is tainted by femcels
I miss Raszard
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>>545829148
Ew
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>>545829214
Clarification: my "ew" was in reaction to the pic, not the mention of Raszard (based)
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>>545829148
>yrliet touching the rt
lol
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>>545829597
I guess it takes place after the game
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>>545827596
>exploit grease or don't play the game
Games are supposed to be fun. I don't find exploiting one overpowered spell fun.
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I don't understand. Why bother adding an evil faction in your RPG where one of your main selling points is "most players won't get to see everything, and that's fine" if you're not gonna let people join them? You can just reuse most assets you already have in the game and add a few missions with the protectorate and most people would've been fine with it. I understand Boyarsky didn't want them to not be up to par with the other factions but that's also a limitation that other RPGs and even New Vegas had to deal with. Most of the game is already just barely reaching the bar, not surpassing it, so why was this the cutoff point?
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Why is there so much freemason imagery in owlcat games?
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>>545829148
gb2 reddit
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>>545830348
I'm so absolutely sick of that whine from devs.
It's part of the genre, deal with it you lazy shits. DMs rip up and throw away tons of pages of things they prepared because the players went off the rails, big fuckin whoop, cry more.
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>>545830348
space new vegas: flop had some talentless nepo babies retweeting gavin newsom while their interns made a piece of shit then got fired by microsoft
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HOT TAKE!!!
Obsidian has gotten worse over time.
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>>545831021
>live in a capitalist society where the bottom line is the most important thing
>what do you mean we need to scrap an entire story route because it's not economical to produce something 5% of the playerbase will see?
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which mythic path with magic deceiver
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>>545831301
that assumes they were good in the first place
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What's up CRPG fans, wondering what IP we're working on next? I can't say anything official but I'll just leave this here...

Cowabunga dudes ;)

- S
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>>545832460
HOLY SHIT BATTLETOADS
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>>545831729
For flavor Trickster is the best pick, the BiS head item for Magic Deceivers, the Jester's Cap, looks just like the hat the Trickster's portrait has, Aeon also has some flavor if you pick the Chronomancer. For pure mechanics it's Azata because of favorable magic and zippy magic, Demons get the highest spell DCs but it's unnecessary even on Unfair and Liches can do some funny instakills with Withering life + Feeblemind/Baleful polymorph. Gold Dragons can also increase your damage dice and can automatically empower and maximize their spells and make all their dice go from d6 to d10, but this only happens at Mythic 10, so it's only relevant if you want to do the post endgame DLC.
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>>545829790
she only touches you on your deathbed yrlietard
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>>545831453
might as well not give anyone choices at all then to cut costs
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>>545833713
Yes that has been the direction for a while now
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IT'S UP!!!
https://youtu.be/Bvt-2teVrI0
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>>545814607
Feast of Blood
Also, use Repurpose on strong enemies to raise them as your allies
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>>545831453
they are making flops paid for by microsoft. economical path would be to make 0 games and lay them all off
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>>545815860
For undead, use bone explosion (aoe) and Consume Undead for single target.
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>>545834147
I would actually watch streams, well, at least a little bit anyhow, if they weren't always shouting and over-reacting about everything.
It must work for all of them to act this way though so what do I know. Also Black Geyser looks pretty good, think I might pick it up.
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>>545794298
A lot of that is Owlcat's flourishes. For instance, tick swarms on the tabletop only temporarily damage attributes (because they're sucking your blood) unless you catch a disease they're carrying. Once you remove the ticks, you'll recover after rest (because your body produces more blood). In PF, tick swarms do PERMANENT attribute damage, meaning you need restoration to fix it. Extra bad as tick swarms can do upwards of 12 damage to the attributes of multiple party members per turn, which will then require tedious cycles of casting lesser restoration and rest on everyone.
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yeah but in tabletop you can't save and load
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>>545835319
Yes you can
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>>545834671
If they were truly flops then microsoft would shut them down. The fact that they aren't indicates they aren't flops, but they make you mad for some reason.
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>>545836941
what are you babbling about they dont turn a profit. microsoft's game division had a speculative period of buying studios and funding bad games because 'it increased game pass engagement' then in fact did fire half of obsidian when nothing manifested from their flops
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>>545835319
>reload
It's called a mulligan or dice fudge or GM fiat. Most GMs will usually warn you if you're about to do something that's super retarded.

Also, a lot of the "difficulty" just adds tedium. Applying dozens of prebuffs is tedious. Removing stat ailments is tedious. Hell, here's an idea. Have a buff autocast menu where you can save buff loadouts and then cast the whole sequence (but only out of battle). Have a medical menu screen where you can easily see the debuffs and diseases party members are suffering and treat them. Like imagine right-clicking Ember, who has some disease, then getting a drop-down of "treat with: Camellia (remove disease)" and "treat with: Daeren (Cleanse)." Again, this function is for when you're out of battle; if you're in battle, you still have to manually cast. Also stop automatically dismounting us from our pets and add a mount/dismount shortcut key.
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>>545837515
My DM has admitted to low balling his own rolls to keep us from wiping but I'm pretty sure that also means he's lied about rolls to make some encounters tougher than they should have been
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gms are all critical role watching sissies that just make up rolls
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>>545812404
>Wendy but with face tattoos
Is that really all it takes?
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>Undead Terendelev just unceremoniously keeled the fuck over in like 2 turns
I expected something abit more
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Cute
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>>545833628
Not so, see >>545829148
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>>545838419
it got one shotted by deskari, the fuck did you expect
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>>545838419
I was expecting a Arthas Frost Wyrm 2.0 when fighting it, but it was hella lackluster, specially since you can get a drop at her.
She's a Ravager, she eat souls, why couldn't they make her suck less than a Mythic Balor?
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>>545820172
Studded holy armor.
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>>545835191
>Once you remove the ticks, you'll recover after rest (because your body produces more blood).
You recover ability damage after resting in the vidya too. 1 point of ability damage per score per night's rest, same as tt.

>>545837515
>Also, a lot of the "difficulty" just adds tedium. Applying dozens of prebuffs is tedious. Removing stat ailments is tedious. Hell, here's an idea. Have a buff autocast menu where you can save buff loadouts and then cast the whole sequence (but only out of battle).
Buff mod, bro.
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primarch companion in RT when
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>>545841070
Playing with mods is cheats.

>>545837515
The so called tedium is difficulty. You have to remember to cast all the things you need.
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I'm not applying "dozens" of buffs and I'm playing on Hard.
Some of you really just can't stomach the thought that you need to be playing on a lower difficulty lmao
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why is the owlbab's response to "your game has shit balance" always ALWAYS always "lol just lower the difficulty bro" as if that addresses the issue?
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>>545813969
>What would you need in Cha though to cast the highest spells? I forget how that works. Is it spell level + 10? So like 19 Cha to cast 9th level? And do you get extra spell slots for higher casting stat with mythic spellbooks?
There's no minimum casting stat for mythic spells.
Spell lvl+10 is correct for normal spells though.
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>>545841647
Anything lower than core is not worth playing.
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There is no issue, that's the point. Everything is fine as long as you stay in your lane. Hard for me, probably something like "Normal" for you.
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Seelah is the best unit in the game because you can just get her Toughness then all the defensive feats and then she tanks everything.
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>>545842157
Normal means you're bad at RPGs and you probably shouldn't be playing them.
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>>545841606
>Playing with mods is cheats.
Single player game, bro.

The tedium is a failure on the part of the developers. In a tt game I can say "I cast resist energy on everyone" or even "we cast all our usual buffs" and that's it, there's no waiting around chanting "Teeo Wowaj An" 6 times.
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>>545842157
Normal isn´t normal. If you look at the difficulty settings you can see that the monster stats are tuned down. Normal is basically easy, Core is Normal.

>>545842376
It's cause the videogame playerbase is getting more and more stupid every year.
That's why we can't get hard games anymore. I'd pay for seeing them play some appropriately hard retrogame while they cry blood.
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No one uses seelah past act 1, you get the zesty dude thats just her but better in every way.
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>>545842183
I just tank everything with the dino and shadow demon summon
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>seelah is a bad unit
Only low IQ shit eating tranimals think this.
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Magritium turinos.
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why does Ulbrig get such powerful items early on, is it because hes DLC?
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>>545841606
>buff bot is cheating
explain
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>>545842946
The only notable item he gets is the Swarmbane clasp and that's probably to shut up all the people who kept complaining about swarms. You get like 6 copies of that item throughout the game too.
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>>545843538
They are bullshit tho. Instant 20 dmg AoE that permanently disables everyone... like what? Not even bosses do that.
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Help me decide
Heavy flail
Twinblade
Or kinetic blasts
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Shabong will never be better than a merc at being a paladin with 15 starter cha, she's not bad though. I don't use seelah, beyond sword maze I never want to hear "guide ma blade" ever again
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Why does this fattie have more HP than Baphomet and Deskari?
>>545842743
People forget that she can easily fit a Fighter. Making her a Paladin/Tower Shield Specialist can safely make her tank the game for you, just like Valerie did in Kang
>>545844120
Yeah, her voicelines are kinda annoying
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>>545842846
Inimosi Travisi
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high perception paladin with low charisma because shes ... .
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>>545844670
>Making her a Paladin/Tower Shield Specialist can safely make her tank the game for you, just like Valerie did in Kang
She tanks better as a straight pallie on a horse.
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>>545845310
Stop noticing!
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>Combat begins
>Gresilla, Priestess of Nocticula casts Overwhelming Presence
>Failed will save (5 vs 20)
>Failed will save (8 vs 20)
>Failed will save (2 vs 20)
>Failed will save (14 vs 20)
>Failed will save (9 vs 20)
>Failed will save (11 vs 20)
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Seelah comes from literally notMorroco btw
Also, here, have her as an evil nigga, which is canon somehow
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>>545845569
How tho? I heard people saying similar things, but I went and build a Ghost Rider chevalier, and that thing keeps jobbing to saves and dropping me on the ground
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0 hours since crpgg cried about a dark skinned character
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>>545845634
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>>545846239
Crpg loves daeren
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>>545846239
have you tried not making them dark skinned? could solve a lot of problems.
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What are some common tropes in cRPGs that give you that endorphin rush?
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>blue flame is not actually blue
I am unreasonably mad
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God, why are skalds so useful and why aren't any of our companions one?
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>>545848000
When the developer utilized combat maneuver together with story telling. Like that time in Kingmaker when Tarkuk deceived the kobolds and told to bum rush me. 20,30 of the little bastards swarmed our party causing us to be unable to move and then Tarkuk just threw a fireball at us, annihilating all of his trope and our party at the same time

Fucking brutal cunt, i love it
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>>545848000
What's wrong with that bird?
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Stick Seelah on a horse and she's a monster. Not broken or anything but a good frontliner both in dps and tankiness
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>>545848583
Stick anyone on a horse and they're immediately better.
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>>545847691
Damn, I should've repurposed her like the Baphomet Priest.
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>>545848740
Will you be better if I stick you on a horse
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>>545810784
>aldori
>uses a regular sword
retarded
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>>545832460
>wondering what IP we're working on next?
Not at all
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Had forgotten how much fun Act 4 in WOTR is
It's a really refreshing change of pace and scenery from Act 3. Doesn't hurt that it's much, much shorter than Act 3 as well
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Look at him go!

Well, thats it, Wrath is done. While I loved Act 3 and 4 quite a bit, the final part was..lackluster af, does it get better if more of your companions live and you do the Ascension ending? Or the game feels rushed regardless?
It's clear that I lost a lot, but still, the ending felt hella lackluster. It still surprised me that Pharasma yoinked Areelu into the Abyss, instead of the Abaddon, specially after her whole shtick

I also gotta say, Demon felt like a cool edgykino route, but after returning from Iz, there weren't much I could do
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I also felt bad for the little guy. He didn't deserve this...
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We can all agree that soul patch is the best Revan right?
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>>545852570
I didn't know that they have a slide for your ride
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These faggot ass "the enemy spotted you!" fights every ten feet when I'm trying to get somewhere are pretty gay, I don't even think I'm getting XP from it.
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>>545829148
>femcels imagine her acting like a human male
>malecels imagine her acting like a human female
Oh Yrliet
No one appreciates you like I do
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>>545829148
>lesbian Yrliet
>bedroom is dead from the start
Checks out
Captcha
>ppnns
Kek

Also, I am starting to see some art of her and Marzi but it's rare
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>>545854335
Just roll good on your perception checks and spot them first.
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>>545854429
She wouldn't give you even a side eye if you were real
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>>545852946
Skill issue
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>>545854664
Depends if he's Drukhari or not.
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>Carrie Patel and Megan Starks have left Obsidian
>but avowed 2 is in the works
Whats the point of making more pillars stuff if the two people who wrote of most the lore are gone? Just make a new setting at that point its not like pillars is that huge of a brand name.
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>>545854757
"wrath of the righteous 2: regill's revenge" when?
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>>545855050
Umm actually Sawyer wrote all the lore and made the game himself.
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umm ackhtually sawyer is the sole developer in the indie studio known as obsidian
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Is mutation warrior kinda ass if I dont want to rest between every fight?
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>>545854557
This girl draws them, but also warhammer in general.
https://www.tumblr.com/reidsky777
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>>545855330
No because he still a fighter that hits hard and alot.
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plus the mutation lasts 10 min/ level no? That's enough to finish a whole dungeon without resting
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>>545829148
I gotchu anon
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>>545855050
Pillars is Fenstenmaker's baby. I thought deadfire writing was pretty good though.
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hmmmm member avowed?
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>>545855410
Noice, but I think that's the only one she did.
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>>545855330
No? You're literally just a fighter with a statbuff
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SawYER
YERliet
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OwlCRAP
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>>545854557
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For some reason I thought it also lost weapon training, not just armor training
Still kind of a shame it doesnt just get multiple uses of mutagen instead of extending the duration, dont like being punished for taking my time because of a buff timer, 3 uses of 10 minutes feel more comfortable than 1 use of 30 minutes, but I guess having 3 hours of it will make that obsolete anyway
Mutation warrior it is
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>>545855778
She's done a couple others
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>>545856550
There's a reason people who want fighter for a reason or another take it as a dip yeah, it loses nothing and gains an alchemical buff
Enjoy
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>>545855778
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>>545856898
Personally I think dips are revolting and hate how monk is basically a meme class for ac dip instead of just beating a motherfucker with my fists
But then again, hagriven, what wouldve been my go to class, only gets 2 claw atacks, ever, so my dreams were shattered multiple times already over the course of finding out what i want to fucking play
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I unironically prefer the wasteland design philosophy of obvious good choice or ridiculously comically evil choice. If Obsidian cant give us alot of complex branching paths because of the budget like they claim then just do that instead, go insane with it like wasteland did and do something thats on par with letting me become a slaver and blow up refugees with rocket launchers. It would be a much better way of implementing putting only two real factions to choose from in your game because if you dont like the good guy faction the devs want you to go you can have fun just being insanely evil.
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>>545857056
>But then again, hagriven, what wouldve been my go to class, only gets 2 claw atacks, ever
Uh no you get 4 claw attacks from your natural haste which affects both clays?
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>>545857431
Isnt that like still half of what others get?
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>>545858691
People get 4 attack from BAB and then that becomes 5 from haste so no
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>>545835191
Something I hate is that if a companion gets mindcontrolled or turned hostile, your party will automatically overkill him, which would never happen on tabletop unless your players are dicks.

For instance, say you're playing in turn-based when Ulbrig fails a WILL check and gets frenzied. On the next turn, you have Seelah commit to attacking the demon who fucked with Ulbrig's head. She goes down, but Seelah turns to Ulbrig and starts laying into him. She knocks him unconscious with a crit. You have Lann kill a troublesome Vrock next turn, and he turns to the nearest enemy, who is Ulbrig with -14 health, and starts shooting arrows into him, one of which crits him causing Seelah to also attack (Outflank for the win), gibbing Ulbrig with 78 damage. I know that Owlcat probably put this in only to please the masochists who want the game to inconvenience them, because it's not that hard to make it so characters don't autotarget their mates unless you command them too.
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>>545860625
>I know that Owlcat probably put this in only to please the masochists who want the game to inconvenience them
that's backwards. owlcat are shitty, sadist DMs that think TPK's and generally fighting their players are the peak of DMing.
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>>545860625
>Something I hate is that if a companion gets mindcontrolled or turned hostile
Good. You should be punished for bad play. Mindcontrol is easy as fuck to counteract.
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>>545860806
Nigga did you even read what that anon said?
It isn't the mindcontrol part that's shite, it's the fact that your other characters overkill the mindcontrolled ones without you being able to do anything about it
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>>545860806
Yeah, I know. Just reload and use communal protection from alignment. I don't like save scumming.

>buh I never reloaded
>I just made sure to take all the initiative feats on my cleric so I could cast it on the first turn (even tho I will shit on others for doing the same because it's not minmaxed play)
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Outer Worlds 2 is the Starfield I wanted.
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>>545860938
I did and I am saying that it's intended to punish bad players for not prebuffing properly. Whenever one of my squishy mages gets dominated and runs past my 2-handed barbarian and gets crit by an AOO for 200 damage, that's on me, not the game.
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>prebuff properly >:(
>but enduring spells are worthless :)
reminder that these types are just contrarians
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Enduring spells is a quality of life feature desu.
Most autistic minmaxers consider then a waste but I try to take them on my main buffing dollie to make things more convenient.
Especially if you had a merged mythic spellbook then with extended spells you can extend 1 round/level spells to 24 hours. So you can have the whole party hasted for 24 hours for example.
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also if you had a dedicated character for buffing and that character doesn't do much else with the sell slots then you can do away with abundant casting since you won't need to rebuff.
So you're trading 3 abundant casting feats with 2 enduring spells ones.
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I don't see the point of abundant casting in general outside of maybe something like a ranger where you might want more uses of instant enemy and don't have anything else you need.
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>>545845634
>get Overwhelmingpresence'd
>somehow my cleric rolled a nat 20
>oh boy I knew the day would come where I finally get to use Joyful Rapture
>cast Joyful Rapture
>it does literally fucking nothing
>search online
>apparently it's a well known issue and it's because the fucking retards at Owlturd mistyped the spell descriptor
>Joyful Rapture removes petrified, from the crystals, whose value is just one step away from negative emotion, which is what Overwhelming Presence is
>it doesn't even remove petrified because Stone to Flesh, the spell actually intended to remove petrified, also has a resurrect component
>Joyful Rupture does literally fucking nothing to this day

Ok, after that little rant, best solution for Overwhelming Presence is to cast Shield of Law.
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serious question. why can't Owlcat make games that look like KotOR and Dragon Age Origins? these games are decades old and look better than anything Owlcat has ever made.
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>>545862817
Triple AAA vs barley AA budget
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>>545862817
I think KM beats DAO in the art department. I just love the visual style of that game. WotR is meh.
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Why don't studios make good looking games and stop making ugly games? are they dumb?
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>>545862817
my dollies look more attractive when I have to imagine their kissable features
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why don't studios stop using unity?
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>>545862892
but why can't today's AA games look like AAA games from 2008? i just don't get it.
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>>545863016
because wealth divide is not a linearly increasing system?
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>>545862817
They don't want them to look like that
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>>545862943
Owlcat games definitely have an art style and i do appreciate that more than i would boring photorealism. i think i prefer Origins at the moment though. i did not expect it to hold up as strongly as it does because i did not install many visual improvement mods.
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why does an old white haired lady have such luscious breasts?
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>>545861551
You would still need abundant casting since some spells like Aid are single target only thus you need to recast them multiple times
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>>545863569
Milf titties
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>>545863651
Selectively choose who's important enough to get the spell and who isn't. I don't love all my dollies equally.
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>aid
kekypoo
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You should always pick abundant casting because it let's you cast more spells.
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More importantly, you could have used deathward as an example.
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>giving your team AIDS
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Obsidian should just make a new setting that is fantasy and turn based.
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obsidian should die
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>>545864389
It's like the chaddest thing you should do. Also fits a swarm playthrough.
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Why does this general hate larian when they are currently making the best AAA crpgs?
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Why does Sawyer still work as a solo dev at his little indie studio? Too much ego not not do everything himself?
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I don't hate larian and I've been in this general since back when it was an owlcat games general.
Stop generalizing.
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>>545864405
i would like to have seen a Pillars of Eternity 3. i keep meaning to go back and play 2 but the companions are so bland.

>>545863569
to attract shotas.
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>>545864654
swen's success makes us insecure
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Reminder that Wynne isn't even 50 yet at the start of the game
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studio tribalism is a sign of low IQ btw
muh obsidian muh owlcat muh larian
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>>545864706
And the watcher is useless in the story.
If you do play it make sure you do the rymrgand dlc because it's the only good part about that shitshow.
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>>545864967
Unc WE all know tactical adventures is the best crpg studio.
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>>545864967
My favourite studio has more higher charts than your favourite studio
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wtf is an unc
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my grandma could kick your grandma's ass
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2.5D is the superior format for isometric rpgs, How retarded do you have to be to perceive this as beautiful? honestly.
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>>545865148
I really like the static backgrounds of old infinity games and poe1.
Something is autistically comfy about them.
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>>545865148
I like it
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Solasta is light years ahead of the competition in every way except for graphics.
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sagani vs wynne vs jaheria
which crpg grandma wins
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2D is the superior format for rpgs, How retarded do you have to be to perceive this as beautiful? honestly.
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Pillars Owlcat and DOS are the same shit.
Pillars has the worst core ruleset, Owlcat has minigame bloat and class bloat and woke, DOS is maybe mechanically okay, but its silly and infantile. Neither has good writing.
Solasta has decent encounter design, BG3 has good encounter design, but shit ruleset and cinematic DA-like style (decline)
KotC 2 is where its at, but Hearkenwold is better than AoC
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>decline
shoo shoo codex cuckold
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>game, studio, and game are the same shit
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>>545865704
Larian just made divinity 3 times they are the divinity stuido, and their next game will be divinity in space.
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>>545861446
>Especially if you had a merged mythic spellbook then with extended spells you can extend 1 round/level spells to 24 hours. So you can have the whole party hasted for 24 hours for example.
I assume they've patched this by now but when I did my lich run you could use 24h Eyes of the Bodak and Greater Invis to clear entire maps. Occasionally had to use Repurpose to bring back plot relevant civilians so I didn't brick the quests.
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The only good crpgs look and play like absolute shit. If they stop looking and playing like absolute shit it's bad because I can only enjoy things that repulse other people out of contrarianism.
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>>545864654
They made 1 AAA cprg THOUGH???????????
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does this feel you with a yearning for the stars?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PqNeoff3NI
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Play better crpgs
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hear me out
Kingmaker but in space
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>>545866385
aren't they already making starfinder?
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kingmaker but on earth
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Outerworlds 2 or starfield?
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>>545866190
What gaem?
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>>545865838
>their next game will be divinity in space
that's what i'm hoping for. i wish they'd inked a deal with Star Wars to make KotOR 3 instead though.
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I just want DH to have at least one non-humiliating non-cuck romance.
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Instead of Obsidian doing their take on tolkien, dnd and baldurs gate. they should do thier take on moorecock, ultima and wizardry.
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>>545862817
you already got bg3
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Is there a crpg with a romanceable fat/chubby blonde lady with a big bum?
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>>545862817
If you mean high quality for the time, Expanse should be that.
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>>545867887
no i meant literally. today's AA games should at the very least look like AAA PS3/360 games. not like (sorry Owlcat) Android/iOS games.

>>545867345
BG3 is a AAA game tho.
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>>545861238
>AAA YOU ARE SUPPORT AND YOU AREN'T DPS SO YOU ARE USELESS TRASH GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY SSSSS-RANK PARTY AA
>AAAAAAAA I'M SILLY AND CHOLERIC AND I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA HOW ADVENTURING WORKS AAAAAAA
>AAA YOU COULD'VE EASILY REFUTED MY NONSENSE BUT YOU'RE TOO HUMBLE AND BETA TO DO THAT AAAA

>hey mister, do you want to join our party, Protagonist's Onaholes?
>ladies, please let me automagically everything for you with my support skills
>OH MY GOD, support classes can do SUPPORT?!
>MASAKA
>BAKANA
>I've never felt so supported in my whole life!
>MC-sama sugoi, pls support my womb with your baby batter!
>*humble beta noises*
>AAAAAH MC-sama please stop being so useful, I already came twice!

>AIEEEEEEE WE ARE SSSSS-RANK BUT WE'RE GETTING DABBED ON BY GOBLINS AAAAAAA
>AAAAAAAA WHY AREN'T MY SHOELACES TIED THEY WERE ALWAYS TIED BEFORE AAAAAAA
>AAA WHY IS EVERYTHING SO HORRIBLE WHAT COULD'VE POSSIBLY CAUSED THAT AAAAAAA
>Hero-sama, m-maybe that support guy wasn't so useless after all?
>AAAA I HATE THAT USELESS TRASH SO FUCKING MUCH AAAA
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>>545869004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF1vS4rRey0
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>545870126
I rest my case.
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Why the fuck is friend to animals applying to enemy animals I'm going to have to respec it with toybox
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>>545870126
I don't understand half of this shit
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>>545870813
It is a trope often seen in Isekai trash manga
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>>545870891
which anime have this unironically?
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>>545870126
I enjoyed this
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>>545870126
crpgs for this feel?
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>>545801287
Catalina was fun
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>>545866385
In the battletech universe.
Instead of aldori one of the many governments in the setting makes a call of mech warriors out to get rid of a pesky warlord in a neighbouring area and whoever does it is rewarded with that region of space to rule.
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>>545871971
>no aliens
Uhhhh is this allowed?
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plus there's a matriarchal faction that owlcat would love
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or set it in the traveller setting and appeal to the furries
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>>545870763
You're a friend to all animals, not just your own.
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>>545872961
Starfinder is a bit like the Traveller setting
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>>545873387
Fuck
How many animals are there after wintersun giving plagued smilodons +11 to their saves is inconvenient
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How do I "get" game lore?
I'm starting Pillars of Eternity, and there is just a constant bombardment of terminology.
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>Faker won his 3rd back to back worlds
Why are you wasting your time playing crpgs when you could be making history?
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read about anything that has to do with readceras and ignore the rest of the trash
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>>545875292
I'm old and my reaction times were never good when I was young and they're worse now.
I don't need speedy reactions with tactical games like crpgs, I can pause at any moment.
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>>545875183
Pillars lore is a bit obtuse to get into because the best way to learn it is to talk to npcs but the game trains you to not talk to npcs with all the backer characters.
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>>545875292
I have never played a moba when I tried them first 10+ years ago my ping was too shit to get last hits so I stopped trying
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>>545873721
None that I recall, so either there are none or there are some but they're completely unremarkable.
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>>545875769
1 bad map I guess then I'll not rspec it
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>>545875183
theres a wiki in game
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>>545862817
all these game devs are copy pasting unity engine shit. Bioware and Bethesda heavily modified custom game engines that actually have physics
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my two DOS2 toons did an attack of opportunity at the same time which instakilled the boss that was pretty cool
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>>545854429
You imagining her as an autistic human female is hardly original
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>>545875183
You will have to define what you mean by getting the lore. What is it you're having trouble understanding?
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>toons
Such a backwards and biggotted terminology.
We use dollies these days, chud!
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My crpg troons
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Man wrath becomes pretty much unplayable on deck by act 3 going to have to continue on pc
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use bubblebuff
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Is there a mod to fix mithril armor using the feats of the armor type lighter than them? Makes it annoying to build around.
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>>545880368
>playing a computer RPG on a non-computer
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>>545877329
I don't know, just feels like their is a constant influx of deity terminology, locations and races, other languages, and the like.
Feels hard to breach this barrier of figuring out what is being discussed at a given time. Are the in-game books worth reading? They also seem incredibly wordy
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>>545875292
i'm a subhuman seanigga and cant compare to koreans in league. hope that helps
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>deck is not a computer
it can literally run any operating system you stupid tech illiterate.
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so can a phone
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>>545779602
>>545780565
>>545779863

I'm answering my own question, Guide the Faithful only debuffs enemy AC if the attack connects, meaning you have to overcome enemy AC first (lol) to lower it further (lmao).

Thank God for Toybox
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>>545875183
Have you read a book in your entire life? I suspect not if you call that a "bombardment".

Just hover the tooltips, forget stuff, get reminded, slowly it'll come to you. If you're like "What's that place called again?" look it up in the Encyclopedia thing, might even be a cool drawing or something, there is in the bestiary anyhow, which fills in more as you kill more of a type of enemy.
But if you're confused on some part of the lore just ask I guess.

Most importantly don't read the gold-plate backer NPCs, they're shit and irrelevant to the story and game.
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>>545881485
>I don't know, just feels like their is a constant influx of deity terminology, locations and races, other languages, and the like.
If you hit J on your keyboard, you can go to the cyclopedia and refresh your memory on most of the terminology.
>Feels hard to breach this barrier of figuring out what is being discussed at a given time.
This is an extremely broad statement. For example, when you're in the Salty Mast Brothel and one of the men and women in their ask if you're looking for a good time, they mean sex. Unfortunately, your companions aren't much help in explaining that.
>Are the in-game books worth reading? They also seem incredibly wordy
They give you various background information on the setting, but if you're having issues keeping up with normal conversation, I don't know if stuffing your brain with more in-game history that's mostly tangentially helpful to understand why the state of the world is what it is will really help.
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>>545881485
>Are the in-game books worth reading? They also seem incredibly wordy
What exactly has brought you to this genre?
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>>545882434
I had fully forgotten that Sagani's husband is called Kallu
Remember laughing a lot when she first talked about him
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>>545882341
>Have you read a book in your entire life? I suspect not if you call that a "bombardment".
Yeah man, you're totally right, that's on me for not pursuing works by shit authors.
The prose in almost everything is just verbal vomit for the sake of it, while effectively saying nothing at all.
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>>545883657
every single of these words is meaningful and essential sorry you don't like reading
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>>545883657
I don't see any problem with the writing there. It's not blowing my mind but it's fine, and seems to be some kind of dry historical reference type text anyhow.

>saying nothing at all
You get some background on the lead-up to the current tensions with the Aedyrans and Glanfathans. You also get a little background on the Hadrets, and that fire he set comes up directly with Maerwald.
Instead of making excuses and pointing blame, you should just own that you're a zoomie who has trouble with more than a paragraph of text.
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>>545880838
Im using bubblebuff it just chugs down to very low fps when you have 50 buff spells on your party. It's stable like for one map but then you have to exit and reload for it to not chug like hell rather just sit on my desk honestly
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>>545884101
Why the fuck would you need 50 buff spells?
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>>545884268
If you play on hard or unfair you need a lot of buffs for most fights.
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>>545884268
I'm playing on unfair
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>>545883657
are you the kind of schizo who tries to read every book in the elder scrolls games? it's not worth it, just use your pattern recognition to internalize the factions into archetypes
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>>545884384
I play on Hard and no that isn't true. It certainly isn't true on Normal/Core.

>b-b-b-but Normal is just weakened enemies!
weakened from the Owlcat bloat, so actually normal
>if I play on Normal or Core my dick will fall off!
I assure you it won't
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>>545883657
holy shit put a spoiler on that bombardment, I've been completely bombarded here
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>>545884606
>I play on Hard
No you don't.
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>>545884770
You know, I'm glad Pillars died and is regulated to Avowedslop.
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>>545883657
It's an in-game history book and it is teaching you dry history. You don't need to read it. What >>545882341 suggested is good advice if you haven't realised it. The highlighted words in conversation give you tooltips explaining them if you hover your mouse over them. That should be enough to understand what is going on and you shouldn't really need to touch either the Cyclopedia or read any books.

>>545883283
That's pretty funny. Coming from my run of Avowed back to Pillars I'm reminded of why I like Sagani. She appears to genuinely love her family. In Avowed, Yatzli made me question if she actually likes Quilici the way she spoke about him.
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>>545881427
it is a computer nigga
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>>545884606
>I play on Hard and no that isn't true
Why would you just lie on the internet like that?
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Why SSS and Sanctum didnt get new party members?
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Is pathologic 2 worth playing?
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>>545883657
So how does it continue? What happened? Did the Glanfathans and the Aedyrans achieve lasting peace?
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>>545885862
>>545884883
Yep, last run was Hard lich. I also had Ember be an absolute pacifist, no damage dealt the entire run. Besides a couple buffs that last a long time (no I didn't take Enduring Smells) most buffs were done in combat. If we TPK'd a few times I might throw an extra something on, or if it were obvious that undead or fire shit was around.
But no way we did 50 spells lmao, nor did I ever spend more than like 15 seconds buffing outside battle.

Cope harder though. But maybe you should just turn the difficulty down.
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>>545884554
>Mfw i read every book in Elder Scroll on my first playthrough
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>>545885910
Wasn't it because they used them to flesh out some of the sidekicks instead? I can't remember who was relevant, if any, for SSS, but Forgotten Sanctum fleshed out Fassina quite a bit if I recall correctly.
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>>545886130
It's an uneasy peace, with mutual distrust. Play the game to find out more!
I enjoyed the books, but I tend to read all of them in every game. My favorite though is the evolving stories you get from the unique weapons and their different upgrade paths in Deadfire, that shit was cozy as hell.
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>>545886130
Kinda, they allow estramor on the city now in times of trade by tensions are escalating due to major looting of enghttiwan ruins by the animancer industry.
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>>545886397
Kostanten iirc, the dwarf from the brothel
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>>545886158
>Still lying
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>>545884770
I do this and enjoy it
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35 minutes of my life I'll never get back just pre-buffing on this map
why did they make the game this way
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>>545886130
While not entirely happy with the prospect of being magically tatooed so the entire population of Aedyrans were stuck being a girl, then got pinned down and their wombs pounded with superior Glanfathan huge dicks- the Aedyrans experienced deep female orgasms that were incomparable to male pleasure, only time will tell if they could win against the cock
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>>545887270
Use bubble buffs. I just wish the mod author managed to implement items before mysteriously vanishing.
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just spend 3 hours on my pre-buffs
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>hfw you didn't prebuff before entering the bedroom
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>>545887270
According to this guy >>545884606 you ackshully don't need buffs. You just need to get better at rolling nat 20s and making your enemy roll nat 1s.
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>>545881968
no it can't you stupid liar, phones don't have an x86_64 processor. kys you stupid tech illiterate
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>>545886386
Based fictional literature enjoyer. Do you remember any of them? Do you have a favourite book?
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>>545888057
>he is unaware
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>>545886081
ANSWER ME
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not a crpg
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>>545870976
Arifureta is basically this, dude was born as a crafter class and was dipped into a hellbit to die

Healing Hero is a edgy parody of this. Bet there is more of those,
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>>545888093
It has been 10+ years since i last touched that game and i am ashamed to say that this is the only book i remember
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>>545862309
It works against emotion effects, it was quite useful to dispell the Baphomet debuffs during his dungeon, but that's it
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>>545888220
Yes, it's "fun". It's one of the few games I've played where I still occasionally have dreams about, even years later. It was a very engrossing experience. Not a CRPG though.
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>>545888751
>Not a CRPG though.
yest it is
rpg on a computer
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>>545888532
There is nothing to be ashamed of. It's a certified classic for a reason. Even I remember it despite not really being a TES fan.
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>>545863016
Anon, DAO probably still costed more money than Kang and WOTRO
Besides, it's not only about money, Bioware already had their in-house engine, talent which were the best of the best at time and years of experience in past games
Owlcat is barely an infant and their games are buggy and written in Zizi code that bricks on western machines
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What are you playan? Post screenie
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>>545863415
DAO, IS ugly af though, even for the time it came out. Owlcat characters are ugly took, but the scenarios, monsters and skill effects are gorgeous
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>>545888835
Despite that fact that it's filled to the brim with very smoocheable dollies, no such smooching takes place, the most you get is a hug and you have to break over backwards to do it. Thus not a CRPG.
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>>545866190
Is the steam version censored?
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>>545887762
Arue...
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>>545889085
I just finished Dark Souls 1, it was easier than i thought. Quite fun game, great map building and art direction. Shame the dark souls general died, i much prefer posting the screenshots of my progress and talk with retards on here. I should have started the game sooner
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>the "you don't need to buff" schizo is back
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>>545888835
It's not an rpg, on a computer or otherwise.
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>>545887818
He talks about using "alternate tactics" and "strategies" like owlcat games aren't statsheets comparing numbers against eachother
He's probably just a shitposter
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>>545888057
why would specifically an x86_64 be a requirement to be a computer?
was the atari 2600 not a computer? I think you need to educate yourself a bit on what exactly a "computer" is my friend
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>>545889521
hey anon, you don't have the stats for that sanctus. you dirty hp regener.
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>>545889085
I've had rogue trader open for 5 hours (I haven't played it during those at all)
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>>545889521
not a crpg

>>545889658
>>545889895
>>545887818
Amazing amounts of butthurt
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>romance galfrey for power
>she renounces the throne
I got outplayed bros
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>>545889085
Dark Envoy
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>>545890014
I didn't say that though. Maybe a retard like you can see to what I was responding.
Because I'd like to see how you, or any other retard, insalls windows 11 on arm architecture.
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>>545890243
I still think owlcat did her dirty
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>the "owlcrap games don't need buffs actually" schizo is the guy who spams "not a crpg"
Grim.
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>>545890354
put linux on it, run in a vm, bingo bango problem solved
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>>545890195
Show us your fight against xanthir on hard without prebuffing or you're a liar.
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>>545890098
>You
>Stupid, inefficient
>Drink estusk everytime you lose HP
>Since the resource is finite it is not a sustainable life style
>Me
>Intelligent, nihilistic with a wicked humour
>Just strap on the regen shield and wait 30 mins for my HP to get full
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playan' crapgs on my applewatch
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>>545890195
Based gaslighter
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>>545890449
Okay I'd like to see you install fedora on a pixel fold. I'll wait.
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>>545890494
>you
>stupid, inefficient
>waste time healing
>me
>Drink estus when I want and kill enemies with my lightning zweihander in two swings.
>the lifestyle is self sustaining
what rigns u got bithc?
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>>545890424
don't blog about irrelevant shit here and nobody will complain about you posting not-crpgs
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You will never get my (You)'s lilbro SORRY I have your catchphrases filtered
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>>545890489
That's a terrible example, he's easy as hell. But also like I said, if I TPK a few times or it's an obvious boss encounter, I might throw on a few more. I never said I don't pre-buff at all, just that I do most buffs in combat. I did say that you need very little pre-buffing on Core and really none on Normal, which is objectively correct.
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The no buff schizo will never post a video proof of any fight he did unbuffed on hard.
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Last time he got pressed for proof he did the thing I said here btw >>545889895
Gonna ask the owlcrapgame if I can sneak around the enemy and dropkick him for bonus damage lol
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That's correct, I have absolutely no interest in doing that.
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>>545890771
>>545886158
you literally also said your last run you didn't prebuff on hard you stupid lying bitch
show us a fight, any fight or stfu
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I'll make it easy, water elemental in the first dungeon on hard, no prebuffing. Do it now faggot, takes like 10 minutes to get there.
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>>545890915
>you literally also said your last run you didn't prebuff on hard
Go ahead and show me where I said that, speedreader
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>>545891063
He freezes the water elemental with an ice spell so he can roll strength to shatter it just use "alternate tactics and strategies" bro
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>moving goalpost
So I guess what we all learned today is that prebuffing is essential on higher difficulties of owlcat games.
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>>545891063
That still wouldn't apply to what I said, because as an optional boss, especially difficult at low level and higher difficulty, that would be somewhere I might take a couple seconds to put on some extra buffs.
Though come to think of it, all the "buffs" necessary for that fight can be taken via the inventory, so even quicker really.

My whole thesis is that the whole "you NEED to spend 15 minutes buffing" thing that many just accept, is wrong on Normal/Core, and you don't even need to spend excessive time on Hard.
Certainly nothing like that retard whose fps was struggling due to his *50* fucking spells lol
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>>545884384
>If you play on hard or unfair you need a lot of buffs for most fights.
your response to this was
>>545884606
>I play on Hard and no that isn't true.

This is where you said it you stupid fucking liar, linked and quoted.
Now move the goalpost again, please.
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Deskari has like 80 AC on core albeitlythough (base BAB goes up to 20)
Your move?
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rekt
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>>545891181
I spend about as much time pre-buffing in WotR as I do in BG2, maybe more time in BG2 actually
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Desteoyed with mafs and numbers
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>>545891317
I did say that, correct. Now, this is what you said:

>>545890915
>you literally also said your last run you didn't prebuff on hard you stupid lying bitch
Can you show me where I said that I don't prebuff on hard, speedreader?
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Is lvl 10 too low for wintersun? The enemies there are destroying me.
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>just won't respond to the numbers this one anon posted 'cause there's no way I can get +60 ab from equipment only
>I hope no one notices
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currently retaking Drezen after coming back from the Abyss
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>>545891863
>left the abyss
my condolences
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Actually sorry it's closer to 70 on core, must've played on hard last time, still though go on.
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you trannies need to start baking
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>>545892091
Even that, you'd need a +19 from gear only just to hit his touch AC nevermind flatfooted or normal AC.
Buffing is essential even on core and that schizo can't respond to the maths.
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>>545892040
Yeah Act 4 is sadly pretty short
Feels like it's about as long as the prologue + Act 1, but it's at least a good time
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>>545890771
>I did say that you need very little pre-buffing on Core and really none on Normal
>I play on hard
Kek, he reveals himself
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Anon the soccer field ran out of space for your goalpost.
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>>545892352
Even fully buffed with okay builds (no I won't nigger-rely on some merc skald for my gameplay fuck you) some of my guys didn't have 100% hit chance on him on hard so yeah he's just full of shit
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>>545891471
dimension touch gg
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>>545892374
Act 3 was way too long so it balances out
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>>545892835
True
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>My whole thesis is that the whole "you NEED to spend 15 minutes buffing" thing that many just accept, is wrong on Normal/Core, and you don't even need to spend excessive time on Hard.
Read carefully.
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>>545892091
Skill issue. Just roll nat 20s and just buff in combat after he one shots you.
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>>545892835
I'd rather have a shorter act 3 and longer act 4 since act 4 was more fun
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we love blackwater hhere
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>>545893009
>after he one shots you.
I was waiting to see if he'd reply to me because I was gonna post deskari's to-hit bonus next yeah kek
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>>545893078
literal milk run if you're not retarded
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Gonna do it anyway jej
>aaack!!!
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I'll make the new thread just hold on, I have to finish pre-buffing on this random map shouldn't be more than a half hour or so
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>>545893358
Skill issue. Just press the dodge button better.
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>+10 as base
>+10 from my armor
>+10 from my generous 30 dex
>
>deskari hits me on a -38
...gulp!
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>>545892976
make a new thread faggot
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no
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I could bake a thread but I don't know why you fags are so lazy
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>>545896845
I went to the store to buy some soap sorry
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still pre-buffing it'll just be about 15 more minutes
never know what you'll find on some random map, it's essential to use any and every possible pre-buff that you can, at all times
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>>545896845
Give me 5 minutes
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>>545897856
>>545897856
>>545897856
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>>545891471
He has less AC than this
>>545844670 fat nigga.
Bug bros, is Deskari a fraud?



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